Game 44: Phillies at Yankees
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YANKEES (25-18)
Derek Jeter SS
Johnny Damon LF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Melky Cabrera RF
Hideki Matsui DH
Francisco Cervelli C
Brett Gardner CF
Pitching: CC Sabathia (4-3, 3.43 ERA)
Phillies (23-18)
Jimmy Rollins SS
Shane Victorino CF
Raul Ibanez DH
Ryan Howard 1B
Jayson Werth LF
John Mayberry Jr. RF
Pedro Feliz 3B
Eric Bruntlett 2B
Carlos Ruiz C
Pitching: Cole Hamels (2-2, 4.95)
Notes: Melky Cabrera’s three walkoff RBIs this season are the most by a Yankee in a season since Claudell Washington had four in 1988. … Sabathia’s last start against the Phillies was also his last start before becoming a Yankee. Unfortunately, he got rocked in Game 2 of the division series as the Phillies beat up on the Brewers. … Hamels started slow but is 2-0 with a 2.31 ERA in his last five starts. … Anyone remember spring training of 2004 when the Yankees faced Hamels for the first time? Less than two years after graduating high school, Hamels worked two innings and finished the second one by striking out A-Rod, Derek Jeter and Tony Clark. … The teams have combined to hit 11 homers already in this series. … The Yankees continued their run of clean play yesterday, pushing their errorless games streak to 10, best in the majors.
UPDATE, 12:03 p.m.: Not much going on pregame here. Joba threw a side today and says he’s ready to go for Tuesday. Wang remains in the bullpen.
Brian Bruney is still confused about what’s wrong with his arm but he’s resigned himself to the fact that he may just have some discomfort and says he hopes to be in a game tomorrow. Jorge Posada, Xavier Nady, Jose Molina and Cody Ransom are headed for Tampa today for rehab. Girardi said it’s possible Posada could be back by the end of the road trip but hedged it plenty; the next homestand might be more likely.
Nady is an interesting case in that he might be activated before he’s capable of playing the field. Throwing is the big issue for him, and Girardi pointed out that with interleague play coming up, having bats on the bench is more important. “When you start going to National League cities, you’re going to need some pinch-hitters,” he said.
Lastly, consider this the “Today in The Journal News” post — check out Ernie Palladino’s game story here and his notebook here.
UPDATE, 1:09 p.m.: And we’re off. 78 degrees at first pitch here, though there are supposedly thunderstorms in the area. As someone who has dinner reservations in the city tonight, I’m VERY much in favor of those storms avoiding the Stadium this afternoon.
UPDATE, 1:11 p.m.: Since several of you mentioned it – and I’m all about obliging the loyal readers – I chatted briefly with Dave Eiland this morning about Wang’s issues with his sinker. Specifically, we talked about his release point and arm slot.
Eiland said that yes, there’s clearly a difference in Wang’s release point from when his sinker was consistently good to right now. What they are working with Wang on, Eiland said, is “staying over the rubber” longer. As you all know, Wang has a very deliberate wind-up – he raises his leg incredibly slowly and does a little “tap-tap” with the ball before throwing. The problem, according to Eiland, is that the “tap-tap” is coming a little later and Wang’s lower body has already started to push forward toward the plate. That means he’s forced to release the point at a higher point and thus, there’s no bite on the sinker and it hangs up.
If Wang is able to stay over the rubber long, Eiland said, the “tap-tap” will take place with his body still in one location – as opposed to the lower half having already started forward – and his release point will be lower again. That’s what they’re focusing on now.
Sorry if this is a little more technical than some of you might be interested in – I know it would be for me – but since Wang’s issues have been dissected by many on here, I thought those of you curious might find it interesting.
UPDATE, 1:54 p.m.: Gardner wasn’t close enough to catching that ball to justify diving for it, in my opinion. I don’t know many “baseball adages” but I’m pretty sure there’s one about not leaving your feet with two out and a runner on. I was actually surprised that Rollins didn’t end up on third.
BTW, it’s a full house here today – or mostly full, at least – but there is a LOT of red in the stands. Obviously the Yankee fans are in the majority but the cheers for the Phillies runs were louder than I expected.
UPDATE, 2:21 p.m.: As I mentioned before, I LOVE plays at the plate and you have to give credit to Ruiz there — he blocked that plate incredibly well. I don’t have a big problem with Rob Thomson sending Damon there – it took a great throw and great concentration from Ruiz to be able to handle it while Damon was bearing down on him. Sure, A-Rod is coming up but when the fielding team goes perfect-perfect on the throw and catch/block to get you by half-a-step, there isn’t much you can do.
UPDATE, 2:55 p.m.: Is there a hotter hitter anywhere than Raul Ibanez? The Phillies got this guy for $10 million a year and he’s well on his way to a fourth straight 100-RBI season (then again, at this point, it’s probably more accurate to say he’s on his way to a first 200-RBI season). It would have been a nice break for the Yankees if that ball bounced over the wall for a ground-rule double but it didn’t and the run scored. Give Melky credit for making a nice catch on Howard’s liner though.
UPDATE, 3:05 p.m.: That’s a broken-bat home run for Mark Teixeira. Seriously. The bat flew all the way past third base and the ball went about six rows into the left-field seats. Cole Hamels just shook his head. Meanwhile, a few boos trickle down for A-Rod, who strikes out for the third time.
UPDATE, 3:33 p.m.: Wow, Carlos Ruiz is having quite a day. Again, give credit to the Phillies coming up with a perfect defensive play when they need it – if Ruiz doesn’t throw an absolute pill to second, Gardner is in there and Jeter gets a chance to drive him in.
UPDATE, 3:44 p.m.: Big pitch by CC to get out of a jam there (and nice block by Cervelli on the pitch before). Now the Yankees have to see if they can make something happen against the Phils bullpen again. Lefty Scott Eyre is on now to face Damon.
UPDATE, 3:52 p.m.: Repeat blast for A-Rod here?
UPDATE, 3:53 p.m.: Nope. Hard-hit ball, but right to third. If they do it, they’ll have to it against Lidge again.
UPDATE, 4:06 p.m.: Here comes Lidge. This guy was unhittable last year but it’s pretty obvious he’s beatable in 2009. Let’s see if Cano and Melky can do it two days in a row.
UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: Huge cheer for the Melkman as he comes up. Smart move to get a pinch-runner in for Cano. Let’s see what happens.
UPDATE, 4:11 p.m.: Ruiz didn’t have much of a shot even if he handles it clean. Nice jump by Pena. Now a single ties it (probably).
UPDATE, 4:12 p.m.: I can’t say I like Melky bunting here. I’d rather him swing than Matsui.
UPDATE, 4:13 p.m.: And that’s why. A four-hopper up the middle gets through and it’s 3-3. Man, Lidge has been brutal. Great fightback by the Yankees.
UPDATE, 4:16 p.m.: Speaking of brutal, hello, Hideki Matsui. Now Swisher hits for Cervelli.
UPDATE, 4:19 p.m.: Gardner makes up for his dive earlier?
UPDATE, 4:21 p.m.: Nope. Extra innings. Here comes Mo.
UPDATE, 4:33 p.m.: Just a little hiccup from Rivera but it’s no real problem. Top of the order against righty Clay Condrey.
UPDATE, 4:45 p.m.: Had to figure the Yankees would win it right there, but Teixeira hits into an awful double play and Ramiro Pena flies out. Some will second-guess the Pena-for-Cano decision in the ninth, but I liked it then and you can’t count on that spot coming up again. Pena’s steal put even more pressure on Lidge – who was clearly about to have his head explode – and the Yanks have already seen how the Phillies outfielders can make throws to the plate. No doubt you want legs on the bases at that point.
Brett Tomko on now.
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First!
Or so I thought!?! Anyway, it has been a very memorable homestand — hopefully it’ll lead to an even more memorable Season.
Please CC Carry us to a win cause we are going to get shutout by Cole hamels
if i was a pitcher i just keep throwing breaking balls to Tex looks like he can only hit fastballs
Swisher is back to his 2008 form…
The Cro May 24th, 2009 at 9:31 am
First!
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Congratulations, here’s your award:
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interesting, never would have guessed this:
“Kevin Long, the hitting coach, evaluates each at-bat by the Yankees and classifies it as good or bad. He also tracks whether a ball is hit hard or not. Cabrera, he said, leads the team in both categories, with about 60 percent good at-bats and 50 percent hard-hit balls.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05.....ref=sports
Bob Ryan has been through a lot recently. Cut the guy some slack.
Didn’t bob ryan lose a child or something – i seem to remember a suicide or dui or something like that
That’s sick. Go away.
Bob Ryan, may just be the best Boston sports reporter out there and yes he has had a very trying year or so with the loss of his son and all.
As for Lupica, I can’t figure him out…he seems to be getting very bitter and just might be getting ready to jump the shark…if he hasn’t already.
As for the Yankees…I haven’t seen them show this much heart and determination in years.
One of the old gaurd needs to pull out their Mario Duncan shirts “We play today…We win today…Das it!”
When the homestand started I don’t think anyone would have thought that the Yankees would have a chance at 9-1.
Wait! So Technically, some of the Yanks have AB’s versus Hamels?
hardwired,
It’s very good to keep that info, it can be used to keep a hitter focused on maintaining his approach when he’s just running into bad luck, or used to catch bad trends even if the hitter is having success.
Paplebon erupting last night, when Wright got the force out at second in the 9th…is a thing of beauty.
Vader,
I’m still waiting on those positive articles by Harper, Madden, Bondy, Raisman & Lupica. If the Mets were on this kind of streak the Daily News would have had an avalanche of fluff piece articles.
Papelbon continues to justify the animosity I feel towards him.
Finally Swisher takes a seat.
Never saw this mentioned anywhere and it should– Yankee Stadium yesterday was like a home game for the Phillies. The stadium was at least 1/3 Phillies fans yesterday and in the bleachers (both left and right sides) it was at least 1/2. I have never seen Yankee stadium so filled up with opposing teams fans. I am curious to see if it is the same today.
Swisher gets a needed rest.
Love the lineup today.
Cano 5th. No Swisher. Finally.
Beckett was screwed as well (110+ pitches, 1ER, but it all came to nothing) as Papelbon.
And since they are the 2 most hateful player on the RS, that really made my day!
Only about 150 tickets available on StubHub for today’s game.
I ain’t getting under face value today!
Lupica, once again, a day late and a dollar short. Oh, wait gotta be careful about the “short” comments.
It’s May twenty freakin fourth and he’s still talking about how expensive the seats are and how many HRs have been hit? And this guy is the premier sports columnist? This guy is so clearly in need of something new to write about.
Build a (tiny) statue to Mikey, put it on the Grand Concourse at 161st Street and have it inscribed (with apologies to Emma Lazarus):
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to read me,
The wretched refuse of my teeny stories.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my leg beside the New Stadium door!”
Lupica has long considered himself a populist. He was an huge opponent of the new stadium before ground was ever broken. Now that it’s playing like this early, it was inevitable he will be more of its most – of not the most – vocal critics.
Swisher gets to be chief cheerleader today. He certainly was a player in need of a day of rest. For some reason, I thought they had an off day tomorrow. In view of the fact they do not, today is a great day to rest Swisher.
I also guess that means Gardner must be feeling better (his shoulder, that is).
Can’t wait to see what Cano does behind ARod. And Melky is ahead of Matsui! Talk about a creative lineup. Verrrrrry interrrresting.
“Jess
May 24th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Never saw this mentioned anywhere and it should—Yankee Stadium yesterday was like a home game for the Phillies. The stadium was at least 1/3 Phillies fans yesterday and in the bleachers (both left and right sides) it was at least 1/2. I have never seen Yankee stadium so filled up with opposing teams fans. I am curious to see if it is the same today.
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maybe b/c of the long weekend, if it makes it better there were plenty of Mets fans at Fenway also, they were loud, clearly could could hear them on t.v.
There are also a lot of Philies fans who live in central/southern NJ. So, it makes sense that they’d trek to YS to see the Phillies play there. They don’t get that opportunity normally. Yankees fans just have to make sure they represent!!!!
I’ve also noticed there are a lot of Met fans at Fenway. More so then Yankee fans for Sox/Yankees.
Half of YS looks red. Too many Philly fans.
I’m wondering how a metroplitian city with 4-5 newspapers covering the local teams, can’t have any other differing opinions or views?
All you have to do is read one paper, since you get the same info, with the only difference being a different name at the top of the story.
Is there video of Palpelbum erupting after the force out i didn’t see it
murphydog -
For me, ignorance is bliss. I haven’t read Lupica in years, and won’t going forward. If he writes and no one reads, does he get to make any sound?
I seriously want to blissfully enjoy being a Yankees fan. The team itself provides enough angst simply by virtue of the nature of the game(s) – I don’t need to compound that by reading or listening to or watching any accounts of how awful the Yankees are in every respect.
Mark-Cant Touch This, I was looking for it myself. Enjoy, LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgDJH1OkQLM
Tex has the most experience facing Hamels from his Braves days. A handful of other Yankees faced him once in 2006.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....id=4702829
wait until the end.
“Lupica has long considered himself a populist. He was an huge opponent of the new stadium before ground was ever broken. Now that it’s playing like this early, it was inevitable he will be more of its most – of not the most – vocal critics.”
I think you are right about Lupica and how he sees himself. He was against it before it was even built and played in. But, IMO, that’s not populist, that’s a pose. It’s closed-minded, typical “progressive” jerk diatribe: “it’s not the baseball, it’s the politics.” He contrives everything to be about politics and class warfare. I guess that’s why he gets to beat fallen horses for big money at the Daily News.
But imagine for a second that it was actually more difficult to hit HRs in the new park. Imagine the little man’s red-faced rage as he wrote about the Steinbrenners ruining the “Bronx Bomber” tradition of big hits, HRs and lots of action at Yankee Stadium. If the New Stadium worked out to be Death Valley all across the outfield, Lupica would be waking the ghost of Babe Ruth himself to smote the Steinbrenners down.
He’s a phony, out of real things to write about, toeing the party line of hating everything to do with money, unless of course it’s his money we are talking about. I don’t seem to recall him taking a vow of poverty and giving away all of his worldly possessions so he can be free of worldly taint. He’s just another nouveau riche big mouth with a soapbox and high heels. He ought to quit.
Neil Best cracks back at Gammons for his statement on the Stadium-
http://weblogs.newsday.com/spo.....re_on.html
Yeah, I saw Papsmear do that last night. What an idiot. I hope Tito told him to sit down and shut the eff up.
Glad that today is the last day I have to root for the Mets. Tomorrow I can go back to hoping they loose.
Love the lineup today. Swisher badly needed a day off, and Matsui gives a little pop to the bottom of the lineup.
Cano has done a nice job batting behind Arod so far. He has multiple hits in 3 of the last 4 games and had that big ninth inning single yesterday.
“CC, Swisher set to take on Phillies’ Hamels”
Yankees website gets it wrong again. I think it’s good that Swish gets a day.
das it!
Is there any video of Paps leaping out of the dugout last night like an idiot? I need to email it around for the pure entertainment value.
Murph…but no one will take him to task and amongst the super elite media…he is doing a wonderful job, with a pat on the back every Sunday.
murph,
already posted. if you didn’t see it by now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgDJH1OkQLM
Actually, 4 of the 5 hitters with regular season at bats against Hamels have done alright.
http://www.baseball-reference......as=pitcher
notice Paps’ sidekick Pedroia in the background….
murph…look a few post back.
YankeeFan
May 24th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Mark-Cant Touch This, I was looking for it myself. Enjoy, LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgDJH1OkQLM
After reading Gammon’s remarks I wondered if he had ever also predicted how many of the hits off the green monster would have been caught and outs in other ball parks.
There was an audible “yankees suck” chant from the Philly faithful coming through on the Fox broadcast just before Melky’s walkoff.
Actually that was Sabathia’s numbers against Phiilie
The numbers against Hamels aren’t as dreary as it was painted.
http://www.baseball-reference......as=pitcher
So much for checking the facts.
Again, I’m still not understanding Yankees fans hatred towards the Mets.
I’m a Yankee fan since birth. While not a Mets fan at all, I don’t actively root against them. To me, another NY baseball team playing well is only good for the city, especially in this economy.
Maybe its because the Yankees have been far superior to the Mets since the late 80s-early 90s. I don’t see them as a threat.
Personally, I hate the Red Sox. They’re the enemy. As is Tampa Bay, Toronto, Anaheim, etc.
The only times I rooted against the Mets were interleague play against the Yankees and the 2000 world series.
Again, I don’t have any Mets gear. I don’t actively root for them. But I don’t understand the hatred. Because they play in the same city? Is there a rivalry? Not to me there isn’t.
I look forward to catching a game a citifield this year, and I’ll cheer when the Mets make plays.
“Murph…but no one will take him to task and amongst the super elite media…he is doing a wonderful job, with a pat on the back every Sunday.”
Summer Hamptons weekends must be so hard for Loopy, all that driving, stomping the divots at the polo matches, sipping champagne with Christie Brinkley and the Real Housewives of NY, all the while never relaxing his vigilant watch on those rich Steinbrenners while they fleece the poor.
“Melky Cabrera’s three walkoff RBIs this season are the most by a Yankee in a season since Claudell Washington had four in 1988.”
How is this possible? Didn’t Arod(07) and Giambi(02) both hit walk off Grand Slams? That is 4 RBIs right there. Or weren’t they walk offs?
Stultus Magnus (Storm the Moat) and Vader:
Thanks so much. Paps looks even more pathetic on video after the fact.
(I just love his “death stare,” after he gets the sign from the catcher and looks in at the hitter. What a tool).
Nice to be back after a few days away. Also nice to see the Yankees winning 10 of their last 11.
It was pretty funny reading yesterday’s game thread. Man, how would some of these folks have felt if they hadn’t won 9 of 10 going into yesterday’s game?
If you can’t enjoy watching this team, why watch? They compete to the final AB, have been a thrill a minute and, are only 1/2 game out of first. Can’t ask much more than that at this point of the season.
As far as the ballpark, folks need to stop whining about it.
If it plays small, so what? It hasn’t hurt guys that don’t make mistakes out over the plate. Its the same at Fenway, US Cellular, Citizens Bank, etc.
Don’t take the bait from the Peter Gammons’ of the world and become crybabies.
There is no crying in baseball.
Stultus Magnus (Storm the Moat)
May 24th, 2009 at 10:57 am
notice Paps’ sidekick Pedroia in the background….
That was great!
As for Gammons at one time he was great, ground breaking and a pioneer, but as with the way sports are covered and the 24 hour news cycle, he too has to say outrageous things to be heard, because RhapsodyInBlue is correct…how many games have been won with that wall.
Bostonians have this saying…The wall giveth the wall taketh…and that makes it ok.
Fenway is just a glorified wiffle ball park.
Mark in Tampa -
Maybe they mean 3 separate walk-off hits, rather than actual number runs batted in from those hits?
Mark, I think it’s because Melky’s were on 3 separate occasions.
Mark in Tampa
May 24th, 2009 at 11:07 am
“Melky Cabrera’s three walkoff RBIs this season are the most by a Yankee in a season since Claudell Washington had four in 1988.”
How is this possible? Didn’t Arod(07) and Giambi(02) both hit walk off Grand Slams? That is 4 RBIs right there. Or weren’t they walk offs?
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The were referring to walk-off hits (game winning RBI).
Doreen, great minds think alike
How can a guy like Lupica pass himself off as a “populist” from his “humble” (sarcasm) abode in New Canaan, CT?
New Canaan isn’t exactly a populist town.
The Papelcrapper death stare has to be one of the most bush-league things in all of sports. Its that bad.
We got a heck of a team this yr., team is the keyword, and thank you Swisher I love ya but you need more rest than anyone.
I dunno SJ, I’ve heard that there are some restaurants in New Canaan that dont ever offer valet parking.
Thats pretty rough.
Nice to be back after a few days away. Also nice to see the Yankees winning 10 of their last 11.
Great to have you back SJ…and at the start of the homesatnd many would take a 6-4 homestand and they are on the verge of 9-1.
Also, RAB had a good story on your nephew and the Yankees interest…do you think if it did happen, where would he fit in with the likes of Cervelli, Montero, Romine and Higashioka?
Haven’t posted here in a whilllle but I really like this lineup! I wanted to see Swish benched for Gardner for a day or two, i think this will be good for everyone! (Watch as we get shutout)
More braggin’ on the nephew….
BC won 2 of 3 in the ACC Tournament. Beat Miami (the school that told him, “you can’t play here” and didn’t recruit him) 10-1 and Georgia Tech 7-3. They lost to Florida State, who is in the Championship Game today, 7-2.
He had 5 hits, 3 runs scored, and RBI and played flawless defense.
On the draft front, things are really beginning to heat up on a lot of fronts.
We will probably have a better picture of where things stand by the end of this coming week.
On the team front….BC may get a bid to an NCAA Regional when the bids are announced tomorrow.
If they do, it will be the first time BC went to the NCAA Tournament since Lyndon Johnson was President.
That would be quite an accomplishment for these kids.
should the yankees dh posada next year & go with cervelli & another catcher??
this would eliminate us from having to go out & get a dh.
SJ:
“How can a guy like Lupica pass himself off as a “populist” from his “humble” (sarcasm) abode in New Canaan, CT?
New Canaan isn’t exactly a populist town.”
Noblesse Oblige?
It’s the license of rich people to tell us poor people what to think – about ourselves.
Congrats, SJ – it’s not bragging when it’s true
I posted a Keith Law chat question for you back on Friday
“this would eliminate us from having to go out & get a dh.”
Yup. Georgy can part time DH and we have that Jorge Vasquez who will prbly slot into the DH role next season.
I did see the story on RAB on him. The Yankees interest has indeed gathered some steam in the past few days.
Basically, “You can never have enough catching” is what I hear from their side of the table.
They are looking at a couple of high school options at other positions and also seeing if some signability kids drop before showing more of their hand.
This is the time of the year when a lot of rumors get floated.
Scott Boras controls the upper end of the draft with kids like Strasberg, Dustin Ackley, Alex White, etc.
Strasburg is going to the Nationals. They won’t pass on him.
Lots or rumors about what the Mariners at 2, Padres at 3 and Pirates at 4 will do because of signability (aka: Boras guys) concerns.
I think teams like the Yankees will wait that out and see if someone drops who shouldn’t drop.
I know he is high on their board. My gut tells me though, they are waiting/hoping for someone to fall to them unexpectedly.
The cool thing is, a lot can change in the next two weeks and, fortunately, his stock seems to be rising.
That’s a good thing.
SJ:
“On the draft front, things are really beginning to heat up on a lot of fronts.”
I’m sure your family is savoring the moment. I know that lots and lots of hard work and sacrifice led to this. Best of luck.
Rishi,
I didn’t see the question. What did it say? I think Keith has him rated around 35 on his list.
Tex hits a 3 run homer, CC hands the ball directly to Mo, the Mutts sweep away the Sux, Atlanta takes care of Toronto, and we all go to bed in first place. Sound good?
Yes, reading again, I am sure Sam meant 3 walk off hits, seeing as how Melky has at least 4 RBIs on those 3 walk off hits. Proofreading hasn’t been a Lohud staple with Pete out.
Congrats on your nephew SJ –glad to see you back.
sounds great since i got cc going on my fantasy team.
sabathia,wakefield,jurjens,cueto all going for me today.
I can’t stop watching that clip of Papelsmear. What a tool.
Thanks murph,
I don’t know how much his mom is savoring it. She’s a nervous wreck! lol
Me? I’m just so proud of the kid. Doesn’t get caught up in any nonsense, stays focused and, above all else, is a real high character, high quality kid.
It helps if you can really play, and he can really play.
The makeup and character stuff though does matter. I think that’s what is making him a guy on the rise. Teams are seeing that money, fame, opportunity isn’t going to go to his head. That’s a positive.
I’m hoping they a regional bid. Not only will I get the chance to close my office for another week, it gives him the chance to keep playing.
The more you keep playing, the less time there is to worry about the draft. At least that’s the way I see it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we scored 6-7 runs of Cole.
SJ – will try to find it again, i think it was more interesting to see that the nephew was in the question than part of the answer
Pat (Evansville, IN): Keith, I’ve seen a lot of mock drafts that have the Red Sox taking a catcher (Sanchez, Stassi) at #28. Not only would that be a pretty awful pick, it’s assuming the Sox would be drafting for need, which is pretty absurd in itself. With that said, it’s inevitable they’ll be going after whomever drops due to signability concerns. So my question to you is, which name in the first round could you most see falling due to signability?
Keith Law: First off, neither of those would be a “pretty awful pick” or even a “slightly awful pick” or even a “really, it’s okay, I’d just rather not talk about it for a few minutes” pick. Stassi was probably a top-20 guy until his shoulder got sore and he didn’t throw for a few weeks, although he’s back now and throwing fine. I think I answered the second part above – Tate for sure, Green maybe, Turner if the price is too high. And Matt Purke; I’ve heard $3MM on him and Kevin Goldstein heard $5MM.
Here’s the whole chat for those interested:
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/.....t_id=26571
he was chatting from a plane…
interesting factoid:
Melky Cabrera earned his fifth career walkoff hit and third this season. He is one walkoff triple away from a walkoff cycle (has a walkoff single, double, and HR this season).
SJ44-since you are around, what did you think of the Yankees bringing Wang back and his performance coming out of the bullpen on Friday. Many(including me) are still concerned about him.
Also, congrats with regards to your nephew. Exciting stuff!
“CC hands the ball directly to Mo”
Dude these are the defending World Champs, a little bit of respect ?
I can’t link to it because it’s one of the few articles in Newsday that isn’t on the web, but Anthony Reiber wrote a rolled-eyes inducing article about how there is a divide in the Yankees clubhouse regarding how much fun they ought to be having. Apparently Jeter gets a 1 on the fun-meter because he’s about “class and dignity” and also because he’s aloof. Reiber says Jeter only allows himself a small fist pump after wins, really – has he seen the guy at all? Jeter always joins the gang in jumping up and down like little boys after the Yankees win dramatic games. Whether he’d like a pie in the face is another matter, but the media makes him out to be a stone-faced monument with no feelings. Andy gets a 4 on the fun meter and it goes on and on. Obviously AJ, Nick, Joba and Damon get the highest “marks” on the fun-meter……..I can’t tell frankly if this article was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, but given the media’s tendency to make stories out of nothing, I don’t think so.
SJ:
He does sound like a high character kid, alright. But as my mother used to say “he didn’t get that from a stick or a stone;” this is a win for the family.
MLB has been through so much negative stuff they are worried about avoiding a slide into NBA and NFL level trash. “Good kids” (like Jeter) bring “intangibles” to the team and that is invaluable. Knowing there is more to life than baseball always helps.
“Dude these are the defending World Champs, a little bit of respect?”
Well it certainly can happen. The way CC has been pitching of late.
You guys hear Sabean wants Nick Johnson and is shopping Matt Cain… does that make sense ?
I can’t link to it because it’s one of the few articles in Newsday that isn’t on the web,
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If Newsday keeps it up, soon ALL of their articles will be on the web…and ONLY on the web.
Doreen, I saw your response to the AJ/Andy quotes about YS in the prior thread. I disagree – they bother me tremendously, especially AJ’s comments. I don’t want to hear from any of my pitchers that the stadium is in their heads – that’s a self-defeating comment for one and it’s also something of a passive-aggressive way of making excuses. I’m puzzled by AJ’s comment because he’s not made any excuses since he’s been here – in fact, in his post-game interview (when he had plenty of time to reflect), he said that YS has not been an issue (he’s pitched in places like Coors Field). I’ve been his biggest supporter here and I still am, but the man has to make the pitches. If he did, he wouldn’t be giving up so many bombs.
Sam – You forgot the entry “Today in the Journal News.” I mostly lurk, but hit the link to read the story. The entry saves us readers a few clicks. Or was that the plan? Driving up the hit counts, eh… :^)
FTR – I’ve enjoyed reading the blog this last week. Do you blog? (If there’s a link up there, it should highlighted) should consider writing more for it; you’ve got an appealing voice for the medium and may find success in it. I don’t see you competing with PA more like augmenting him. You cover the other sports too right? Get the other lurkers to participate and you’ll build an audience.
1. how is hoping that CC goes deep into the game disrespectful towards the Global Baseball Champs?
2. Sabean? Cain? Link?
Thanks rishi. I think ESPN had something on their draft blog about him forcing teams to make “tough decisions”.
Since I don’t have insider access, I heard it second hand. I don’t even know if its true. Just what I was told.
Judging from the conversations I had with scouting directors, GM’s and scouts at the ACC Tournament, he certainly has opened the eyes of teams drafting earlier than he was projected.
What does that mean? Too early to say but, I’m glad he seems to be on the rise rather than plateauing.
SA,
I think the Yankees got caught in a tough spot with Wang.
Three things happened:
1. Their bullpen got gassed.
2. Bruney’s elbow is still hurting.
3. Joba got nailed with that line drive.
It forced them to bring him back and use him as a de facto long man for a day or two.
That said, at least from the clips I saw, it seems the sinker had more sink than it did earlier in the year. I don’t what the velocity readings were but, the ball had more movement.
They are in a tough spot. They really need him back in the rotation. But, if isn’t right, then its a liability.
I guess their plan now is to wait and see if Joba can make that Tuesday start. If he can’t then Wang starts.
If Joba can make that start, I’d be real tempted to have him pitch 5 and Wang 3-5 to see if he can build on his last outing.
Its would be a good time to limit Joba’s innings and get a read on Wang.
No ideal obviously but, the best they can probably hope for right now.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....a-bat.html
It would have to be more than that right ?
I think Posada’s gonna have to be on first base for Melky to get his walk-off triple. Seems pretty rare, you probably need a statue at first base for that kind of walk-off.
Good luck to Tim Redding tonight at Fenway. He’s from Rochester, my home town. Let’s hope he does better than his 1 start with the Yanks against the Red Sox at Fenway a few years ago. He struck out Big Papi and Manny, but it was downhill from there.
Yeah, SJ, congrats.
SJ – if you know what the article is, I can copy/paste for you…I’ll go see what I can find
If Cain is that cheap what would they ask for Jonathan Sanchez
He was in the “news and notes” of yesterdays Draft blog entry:
Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez went 2-for-5 with a double, his 18th of the year, and is now hitting .355/.455/.640 with 32 extra-base hits.
Betsy,
You get too caught up in finding a dark cloud where none exist. AJ Burnett is being honest and not self-defeating.
Here is one fact of life in the new Stadium. If you make a mistake out over the plate, and the hitter gets good wood on it, chances are its out.
Its not self-defeating, its a fact.
You can’t have it both ways. You want guys to communicate, then be ready to hear the truth. If not, then don’t take everything they say to heart.
Look, AJ hasn’t pitched well since he blew that 6 run lead at Fenway. He knows it.
But, a little food for thought. He had the same start last year to the season and turned it around. Hopefully, he can do the same this time.
Where does the name “Matt Cain” appear in that link? I didn’t see it. (comments section doesn’t count)
OH I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN!
BC’s Sanchez forcing tough decisions
Friday, May 22, 2009 | Print Entry
Posted by Jason A. Churchill
The strength of the 2009 draft certainly is pitching, and there has been a lot of chatter about the depth in high school catching prospects. But one college backstop is making it difficult for clubs to decide which route is better: trying to develop a raw high school athlete into a viable option or taking a polished college catcher with average or better skills across the board.
Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez went 1-for-3 with a walk and a strikeout last night as the Eagles beat Georgia Tech in the ACC tourney.
Sanchez is the top college catcher in the draft and is moving up a lot of boards late in the spring, with one club’s area scout predicting he’ll be the first catcher taken.
“Catching always seems to be something clubs are needing,” he said. “So any time after the middle of the first, I could see Sanchez being taken. He’s a good defender with an above-average ceiling offensively. In a year and a half, he could be some club’s starter. He’s not [Matt] Wieters, but he’s a pretty solid prospect, and you don’t have to dream on tools or pray on his body holding up as you do with prep catchers.”
Hey has anyone notice that TEX is wearing his undershirt backwards since he went on that hot streak???? haha the MLB logo is in front. I take it he is a superstitious person
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Sabean also publicly lifted his ban on trading prospects, although he would continue to put yellow tape around the club’s “young and potentially up-and-coming impact talent.”
It’s becoming more apparent, though, that if the Giants are to build a respectable lineup before 2011, they must give up a prime asset — the kind of trade that Sabean made as a rookie G.M. in 1997, when he moved popular third baseman Matt Williams for a package that included Jeff Kent.
With that in mind, club sources said Sabean would put out feelers to see what he could fetch for right-hander Matt Cain, who pitched a complete game Saturday to improve to 5-1. Because Cain is young, controllable and relatively cheap for two more seasons, it would require productive offensive players with similar service-time attributes to strike a deal.
“If the bat per se is talented and hopefully not a free agent to be, you pay the market price, whatever that is,” Sabean said.
Those players aren’t likely to be available until nearer to the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline. But impending free agents like Nick Johnson and Mark DeRosa already are turning the rumor-go-round, and might be acquired sooner for a less flashy relief arm or two.
“We’ve got a pretty narrow list and we’ve had some discussions,” Sabean said. “Wherever we can find a bat, we’ll make the adjustment positionally.”
http://www.mercurynews.com/spo.....orced=true
“interesting factoid:
Melky Cabrera earned his fifth career walkoff hit and third this season. He is one walkoff triple away from a walkoff cycle (has a walkoff single, double, and HR this season).”
According to all sources I’ve checked, he doesn’t have a walkoff double this season. Both the Minny and Philly winners were scored as singles.
Nick, it’s the wrong link. just go to http://www.mlbtraderumors.com where it says giants shopping cain.
Nick it’s not in the original link.
“In a piece posted last night, Baggarly says Sabean is dangling Matt Cain to get a feel for his value on the open-market. “Because Cain is young, controllable and relatively cheap for two more seasons, it would require productive offensive players with similar service-time attributes to strike a deal,” says Baggarly.”
He’s dangling him right now.
timo – someone better tell ESPN that, then – it came from their website
“*Nick Johnson* and Mark DeRosa already are turning the rumor-go-round, and might be acquired sooner *for a less flashy relief arm or two*.”
Thanks, I knew that Cain-for-Johnson thing was too goofy.
the rs turned down a trade for nick johnson in exchange for delcarmen.
utley is not playing today via gameday lineup
utley not playing today.
Good stuff, thanks Rishi.
Mike Martin, the Florida State coach, said the other day in his press conference that Tony is the second best all around catcher (next to Buster Posey) he has seen since he has been coaching in the ACC.
He feels that Wieters will eventually be a first baseman. A lot of scouts concur with that thought.
Tony isn’t as good a hitter as Wieters. Defensively? No comparison, Tony is much better defensively right now than Wieters.
He’s also very, very durable (knock on wood). The kid plays every inning of every game. That’s pretty impressive for a catcher.
Nice Swisher profile:
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....tting.html
If Joba can make that start, I’d be real tempted to have him pitch 5 and Wang 3-5 to see if he can build on his last outing.
Its would be a good time to limit Joba’s innings and get a read on Wang.
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Ah Thanks SJ44. So far I think it’s all systems go for Jobber to make his start on Tues. If that is the case, maybe it will be good for Joba to go for 5ish then Wang for the rest of it to see how he does.
I just hope Wang can go back to “being good old Wang” or at least close to it.
Sounded like it came from somewhere but whoever got it wrong at ESPN should check their own play-by-plays, which record the walkoff hits as singles. As do the mlb stats.
Interesting, Gardner is playing against the lefty Hamels. I wonder is Swish is hurting a bit, besides desperately needing a day off.
“That said, at least from the clips I saw, it seems the sinker had more sink than it did earlier in the year. I don’t what the velocity readings were but, the ball had more movement.”
sj44-
congrats again on your nephew.if not the yankees,i’m rooting for the twins though i know that’s a long shot. i sent in a plug for him there so who knows.
as far as wang, there is a serious problem with his release point. even after 6 weeks of instruction and rehab it’s still in the wrong slot, way too high.
my only conclusion is that the yankees as an organization instructing him to raise it. neil allen in an epiphany saw wang had the perfect arm slot for the sinker. you don’t mess with wang’s natural arm slot.
they are clearly messing with it because if they weren’t, they be saying he was too high. everyone knows it’s 6 inches higher than normal. the yankees know it and do nothing so the only conclusion is that they are on board with it.
here’s where things are going to get murky.
wang can be a 5.5-6.5 era guy with the bad arm slot he’s being encouraged to throw from with the resulting mediocre sinker, 4 seam fastball, slider, and change up.
if he continues out of the bad high arm slot, he’ll look better than he did when he was injured still and imploding, but he won’t be the wang we knew with the devastating sinker.
it will be a slow drawn out depressing mess as wang slowly fades from the scene over time.
or the yankees could come to their senses and have him pitch from his natural arm slot, shorten his stride, and throw the nasty sinker neil allen taught him .
don’t buy into the high arm slot being pushed by the yankees. they are ruining wang.
Damn I love seeing Papelbon lose the game last night. Did anyone see him go postal after Wright threw to 2nd for a force-out? He and Elf went nuts after the ump called the runner out… Love seeing Papelbon lose.. Most hated Sox player for me besides Youk!
Miggs i agree on the met hatred. WHy do NY fans beat up on each other. I root for the Mets over the sux every time. I have no Mets gear and never would but they are the metropolitan area……….
Yanks are the most enjoyable to watch they ahave been since the o’neil, bernie, tino, etc. dynasty.
Arod has not said a dumb thing since he has been back and they are just battling..Look at todays lineup givng swisher the day off(thank god) but the young homegrown guys everywhere. cano,cabrera, gardner, cervelli, etc…..
gardner against a tought lefty may get ugly but what the heck……….
SJ, you’re probably right….no, I’m sure you’re right. I never thought of it like that – I guess it’s my tendency to overanalyze things to death, lol. In any case, I probably gave more time to that comment than he did – it was probably a throw away line that he forgot he said the moment he said it, lol. Even though I was annoyed with the comment, though, I still haven’t lost faith that AJ will be big for us. He’s not been as bad as his ERA even though he’s not pitched all THAT well (been mostly solid).
Last night’s game thread was unbelievable. I’m a negative person, but I couldn’t believe the trashing of the team that was going on because they were struggling with Happ (and had struggled with Meyers). I guess winning 9 in a row doesn’t buy the Yankees much currency with the fan……..
“Damn I love seeing Papelbon lose the game last night.”
It pisses me off when Omir Santos beats him but we couldn’t scratch him, that needs to stop.
BTW am I the only one getting a bit frustrated w/ Matsui’s clutch ABs ? I mean man does he forget that when the count is 3-0 the pressure is on the pitcher or what
“gardner against a tought lefty may get ugly but what the heck……….”
he came up w/ a big hit yesterday so this is prbly his reward, plus we need an arm to combat anyone get in scoring position especially w/ Hamels pitching and add to that the Swish needs a day or 2 off.
betsy the negative posters will be out bottom of the 1st if CC gives up 2 runs..
sportsfans regardless of what sherman says posada is about a week away from being back…bruney hopefully will get healthy. melancon and robertson are working on things in AAA and will be ready if called. Nady looks to be a week or 2 away from being a righty bat off the bench… the reinforcements are coming. I assume they move pena to AAA when ransom comes back so Pena can play every day, what do people think about that??? next yr. pena and cervelli will have legit chances to start the season on the roster, they both are 23……….
The Berroa era is about 1 or 2 weeks away from being over, i hope.
randy l -
I see you’re here this a.m. — oops, p.m. — and I wanted to thank you for that additional information yesterday. Very enlightening.
the arm being Melky in RF, range Gardner in CF
“don’t buy into the high arm slot being pushed by the yankees. they are ruining wang”
That’s yet to be seen. No offense but they know more about Wang than you or I. If they think he can still throw a nasty sinker but also improve his offspeed stuff he probably can. His sinker was fine the other night, his control was just a bit off. Wang got a lot of grounders, his velocity was up and the ball had a ton of sink. Looked okay to me…
the one thing on gardner if he gets on they need to be more aggressive with him on the baspaths……I think they have not been so far….
Watching that Pspelbon video doesn’t get old. Seriously, if that had been Joba they would have had 2-3 roundtable discussions of SportsCenter/Baseball Tonight talking about him disrespecting the game and “showing up” everyone.
Miggs Stuart
It MORE the Mets FANS than the Mets per se.
When willie was managing (and certain other times) I would Try Try Try to have a non negative feeling toward the Mets until AH met fan would start yappin away about this or that blah blah blah
Does CMW get any credit for saving the BP on Friday?
I think he should.
“the one thing on gardner if he gets on they need to be more aggressive with him on the baspaths……I think they have not been so far….”
That’s a definite, also we need to do what they did w/ Melky w/ him, a runner on 1st try to get Brett to lay one down and beat out a throw or force an error.
stuart a -
Here’s what I’d do:
DFA Cash when Posada gets back
DFA Berroa when Nady gets back
Send Hughes down after his next start and slot Wang into the rotation
Wait until Melancon and Robertson are ready then DFA Veras and Tomko
A bench of Nady, Pena, Cervelli/Molina, Gardner isn’t half bad
“Does CMW get any credit for saving the BP on Friday?
I think he should.”
I’ve been giving him credit, some fans don’t understand the effect CMW brings to the BP, yes balls got through but they just found some holes an were on the ground excluding Ibanez, I came away thinking Wang in the BP would work to our benefit, have him as a standby for Hughes or Joba starts and we get stronger this way between him and Aceves.
I want Wang pitching the 8th inning every day we have a lead
After Hughes starts on Monday he will either go to the bullpen or go down. Wang gets a start after the off day I am guessing.
Brandon
yup but I REALLy want to see THE OLD CMW starting.
Hope soon
“Send Hughes down after his next start and slot Wang into the rotation”
Problem, Wang hasn’t really earned his start yet, so until Hughes collapses I wouldn’t send him to AAA it doesn’t really send the right message.
Oh jesus now all the “Joba to the bullpen” folks want WANG in the bullpen. Why don’t we just have a 13 pitcher bullpen and no starters? Sabathia would be a sick 8th inning guy!
AJ not pitching well since the Boston implosion has nothing to do with the ballpark. It is just an excuse.
Carlos Ruiz should never see 3 straight fastballs when you have a killer curve working. Just bad pitching, not the ballpark.
“Brandon
yup but I REALLy want to see THE OLD CMW starting.
Hope soon”
I hope so too, but he’s clearly not ready so he has to earn it from BP sessions and pitching out of the BP, sit him next to Mo and have those two chat.
Does CMW get any credit for saving the BP on Friday?
I think he should.
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He should.
Whipped cream pie for the Wanger
“Problem, Wang hasn’t really earned his start yet, so until Hughes collapses I wouldn’t send him to AAA it doesn’t really send the right message.”
Brandon you are a joke dude
Have you forgotten Wang’s track record? He started the season injured, he’s healthy now. That was the only thing holding him back.
Wang has won 19 games in 2 seasons and Hughes has a 7.06 ERA right now. The decision is pretty easy if you ask me.
Happy 68th birthday Bob Dylan
Stuart, I’m not sure Bruney will be healthy all year….as Sam posted above, he may have to live with discomfort at this point…We’ll have to see if he can pitch with it.
I don’t want to see Ransom have another at bat or another fielding chance with this team – I say that Pena sticks. I know he’d get more at bats in AAA, but he’s very valuable to this team.
I’d love at some point to be able to bring up Melancon and Robertson, but even when they are pitching well in AAA and do get called up – we can’t exactly assume they are going to do well. I think too many people see them as saviors when they are just unproven kids.
Anyone that thinks Wang needs to earn his job back from a guy with a 7.06 ERA is dumber than a bag of hammers.
Keep Pena here, send Ransom to AAA, have him on standby incase of dreaded injuries.
Melancon and Robertson should not be thought of until atleast July.
Oh S.A. you funny
It was cool at the game yesterday that A) not many fans left early *many watched from the concourses)
B) everyone stayed to watch Melk and Robi get pied.
“Anyone that thinks Wang needs to earn his job back from a guy with a 7.06 ERA is dumber than a bag of hammers.”
Right b/c a 29+ ERA has earned his next start.
” No offense but they know more about Wang than you or I. If they think he can still throw a nasty sinker but also improve his offspeed stuff he probably can..
… Looked okay to me…”
patrick-
the arm slot is way too high. i saw it with my eyes in spring training, and i still see it. f/x data backs that up. that’s a fact .
the part you’re missing is that i actually do have direct info the yankees don’t and that’s the direct connection to the guy who taught him the sinker in the first place. the only reason i’m putting it out here is i’m a yankee fan.
the coach who taught him isn’t going to be helping the yankees, the rays are quite happy to have wang revert back to the pitcher he was before neil allen converted him to a sinker ball pitcher.
if you like a 5.50 era with the new arm slot, then i can’t argue with you.
if you want to see the wang that won 19 games two tears in a row, you’re dead wrong the yankees know what they’re doing with wang. they don’t.
Isn’t Ransom gone already with his strained oblique?? If Nady can’t play the field, you probably shouldn’t send Berroa packing just yet, it actually would make more sense to get rid of a reliever.
Nick, I totally should have drafted Dylan in my singer/songwriter fantasy league. Went with Jackson Brown instead…and he’s killing me.
I was thinking about picking up Neil Diamond, but his performance with The Band on The Last Waltz still freaks me out to this day.
Cashman needs to go out and get BP help. Cannot rely on Bruney. Elbows can be very tricky.
The Papelbon clips are crazy. If Joba acted liked Pap after the force at second, the rest of the teams would be asking for his head. There are also some clips of him dancing and acting like an idiot in a parade – he is sweeping with a broom. Also saw Beckett do a “tiny” fist pump on an out. Papelbon acts like a spoiled brat and Franconia lets him get away with it. Go Mets – sweep Boston!!
“the arm slot is way too high. i saw it with my eyes in spring training, and i still see it. f/x data backs that up. that’s a fact .”
I never denied that his arm slot is higher. If it helps him throw a better slider and change-up it might be worth it. I think the Yankee pitching coaches know more about it than us. Wang was injured at the beginning of the year, maybe now that he’s healthy he can throw a great sinker as well as offspeed stuff.
Brandon, again, you are a joke. Now that Wang is healthy he should be given every opportunity to start. Hughes hasn’t done anything special to hold the job. I have nothing left to say about this because clearly you aren’t that bright and logic means nothing to you.
I drafted Donavan and got kicked out of the league
Man what’s going on w/ Bruney
Yeah, Papelbon basically squats and does about 5 fist pumps after a save. I don’t see why all the talk is about Joba, it’s ridiculous.
Speaking of horrible sports writers and columnists, I’m on the jersey shore right reading the philly inquirer and just read the absolute worst piece of garbage written by a philly sports columnist – phil sheridan – about yesterday’s game. He actually referred to The Stadium as the ‘House that Roids Built’. If anyone can find the link please post it here as I am stuck posting on my bberry.
The article is pure journalistic junk!
randy,
Just to be clear I’m not denying your expertise or whatever. I just don’t feel as absolutely certain as you do that Wang will be ruined if he pitches from a higher arm slot.
I think you are absolutely right, the Yankee coaches want him to throw this way. For years they have been trying to work on his offspeed stuff. Theoretically it’s a good idea. When his sinker is off he gets BOMBED. If he can keep hitters honest with his other stuff that won’t happen as often.
You contend that by raising his arm slot it will ruin his slider, I think that is yet to be seen. We saw him get trashed at the beginning of the season but I think it’s pretty clear that was because of his injury.
You are claiming that he will be a very mediocre pitcher (5.5-6.0 era) if he keeps this arm slot. I don’t see any evidence of that because we’ve never seen him as that pitcher. Just have to wait and see how it works out. I’m willing to give the Yanks a shot as they are much more knowledgeable about it than I am.
Chapin, Croce, King, Cohen, Taylor, Buffett, Kristofferson, Nelson, W., McClean.
Thats my team
I drafted Donavan and got kicked out of the league
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I guess he failed his drug test.
“Melancon and Robertson should not be thought of until atleast July”
i think that might be a little extreme in both cases…especially robertson who has been here for an extended period and has some success..melancon is debatable but july is far off…i cant really disagree with it totally but i dont think it would be a negative for either of them to get recalled before july..i do keep the “dont even think of ajax till sept” line strong though!
I think it’s fruitless at this point to speculate on who will go down/be released from the 25-man when Nady and Ransom are ready.
Ideally, both would make the squad, but you never know; one or both may not be ready. Conversely, someone other than Berroa may be “it” – What if Matsui’s knees act up? He’s not been hitting well, and maybe that’s the reason.
Too many uncertainties.
sj – congrats on your nephew. very cool.
bruney’s not only in pain, he’s got it in his head that he’s hurt, even though test results show otherwise. bad combo for a pitcher.
as for wang, i suppose he looked “better” but that’s a pretty far cry from looking good. i expect it will be quite a while before we see him revert to form, if ever. not only is he evidently still recovering from injury, his confidence is shot.
Bad news about Bruney. But now Cashman HAS to go out and get a reliever or two before the deadline, right?
I also wish the Yankees would use Tomko as the long man and Aceves as a short reliever. Right now, I’d say he’s our best option for the 8th inning. We can’t afford to make him pitch 3+ innings one day and not have him available for a whole series.
Cone and YES just jinxed the HRs today.
Sounds like the cards are shopping Khalil Greene. He has to be a better fit than Pena, Berrora, and or Ransom. Don’t forget that not so long ago this gu was a #1 pick (13th overall) and hit for a ton of power. The Yankees could probably get him for a song right now. Especially considering few others would want the $5 million left on his contract.
Not sure about the anxiety issues in NY though. If A-Rod can do it . . .
Let Wang start. He’s earned it with years of service and productive service at that. Something might be wrong with him, but the Yanks have gotta stand by him and make those adjustments. Winning has won 54 games since coming up. Last year, Wang practically threw a perfect game at Fenway, if it weren’t for A-Rod’s error and Abreu’s miscalculated leap at the wall he would have had it, instead he finished with a two hitter when the 28th guy up got an infield single.
Wang should have earned patience with the Yanks and their fans. Hughes won no games last year and has looked dominant in only a handful of games in his big league lifetime. Wang has looked dominant in tons of games, going deep into the game, and being effective.
trading for a reliever at the deadline will be tough..i doubt cash is going to give up top prospects for a reliever…hopefully well just be able to eat the contract and give up lesser prospects
Here you go, aymack. Posting the link as requested. An article by Phil Sheridan about yesterday’s game.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer.....A-Rod.html
“I never denied that his arm slot is higher. If it helps him throw a better slider and change-up it might be worth it. I think the Yankee pitching coaches know more about it than us. ”
patrick-
read very closely.
” i saw he had the perfect arm slot for the sinker so i taught him the sinker i used to throw “.- neil allen
is there a part of that you don’t understand?
if you are saying that you think it’s a good idea to change his arm slot so he can throw more secondary pitches, you would be doing exactly what the yankees are doing.
the problem is they are wrong.
the nasty sinker trumps any improvement to secondary pitches
i understand the logic the yankees and you have , but it is going to result in wang losing the nasty sinker. he’ll never get it back from that high arm slot they are teaching him.
they are messing with a gift they were given. wang is reverting back to the wang he was before being taught the sinker.they are cutting up the goose who laid the golden eggs looking for the gold.
you can persist in trusting that the yankees know all, but they don’t. they are wrong in this case, and the results show it. wang is a mess with the new arm slot they are teaching him.
Charles
Don’t forget not to long ago Berroa was ROY. I don’t see how Green would be an upgrade over what they have now.
So we’re past wondering what’s up with Wang’s arm slot and now it’s settled fact that the Yankees deliberately instructed him to change it? While coming back from an injury?
Color me unconvinced.
I’m guessing Donavan was a little too mellow yellow.
The problem with Wang earning patience is that in the division they’re in, the Yankees can only afford so much patience.
“Wang should have earned patience with the Yanks and their fans. Hughes won no games last year and has looked dominant in only a handful of games in his big league lifetime. Wang has looked dominant in tons of games, going deep into the game, and being effective.”
It doesn’t change what happened this season, no one is saying that Wang sucks but he should earn his job back not have it handed to him. You want this team getting the earn your spot characteristic. You promote competition within the team to push the player to play like he really can, handing Wang a spot doesn’t do that.
randy
You can stop beating I think the horse is dead.
I think you made your point about your knowledge about Wang’s developement but it is hard to think you know what is going on now. You can speculate all you want but without first hand info it is just that.
In regard to them not saying what they are doing, since when do any pro team give out info like that?
Also Wang seems to have a bit of a problem with the ability to gut it out when he needs to. Any time men get on base he really struggles. If his pitches aren’t working he seem to have trouble also.
“So we’re past wondering what’s up with Wang’s arm slot and now it’s settled fact that the Yankees deliberately instructed him to change it? While coming back from an injury?
Color me unconvinced.”
I don’t know, the conspiracy theorist in me says Randy might have a point. It’s not like coaches and pitching coaches don’t try to “improve” their pitchers. I remember reading that Mel Stottlemyre was trying to get Doc Gooden to learn a change up even though he was completely dominating the NL with a fastball and curve. Gooden says this messed up his confidence. I mean, the late nights and drugs didn’t help him at all, I’m just pointing out an example where somebody will take something that works and try to make it better even when it might not be necessary.
If the Yanks are forcing Wang to change at this point, it would be stupid. He won 19 games two years in a row. Let him be. It’s weird, it seems like Wang has to prove himself over and over again, I don’t get it.
I’m looking for a stat line can someone tell me where I can get the team BA/OBP/SLG per every 3 innings.
I heard it’s poor 1 – 3, decent decent 3 – 6, 6 – 9 it’s near .300 ?
I love that the Yankees are 8-2 in 1 run games!!!
“i understand the logic the yankees and you have , but it is going to result in wang losing the nasty sinker”
That is yet to be seen. I am trying not to be a jerk but what makes you think you know more than the Yankees? It’s a bit offensive that you claim to know with absolute certainty that Wang will be garbage if he changes his arm slot. At least have an open mind.
“you can persist in trusting that the yankees know all, but they don’t.”
Man I hate it when people put words in my mouth. My logic is pretty simple pal. I never said I trust the Yankees implicitly.
“wang is a mess with the new arm slot they are teaching him.”
Once again, that is yet to be seen. His failures this year are because of injury, not arm slot.
Brandon I have one final question for you. If Johan Santana (or any other top flight pitcher) gets hurt, pitches poorly and has to go on the DL does he have to earn his job back when he’s healthy again? Didn’t think so.
Lets go Yankees!!
Good morning, guys.
Thanks for the video. Can’t tell if the guy was safe or not…but who cares?!?
Don’t let Brandon’s eyes hypnotize you, Wang in the bullpen is not ideal.
Who’s Donovan, and what happened?
here ya go brandon
innings 1-3 .255/.327/.432
innings 4-6 .269/.332/.498
innings 7-9 .290/.385/.508
wow
“You want this team getting the earn your spot characteristic. You promote competition within the team to push the player to play like he really can, handing Wang a spot doesn’t do that.”
Then go put Burnett in the bullpen.
I can’t believe how much I watched SportsCenter and ESPN News over the last 24 hours. And all repeats of each other. While I was just overjoyed watching the Yankee celebration and hearing them have to report on the walk-offs in the Bronx, it was really to see repeats of the fish-faced showoff standing on the mound in fenway, waiting to hear the news that would send him to the showers! And the little twisted tirade when he flew out of the dugout like a flying fish!
GO YANKEES! I GOT YOUR BACKS!!!!
“here ya go brandon
innings 1-3 .255/.327/.432
innings 4-6 .269/.332/.498
innings 7-9 .290/.385/.508
wow”
Thanks Ralphie
That is the sign of a dangerous team w/ the game on the line.
that 7-9 inning mark is really amazing…might be a special year
“Then go put Burnett in the bullpen.”
Just put every player that’s struggling in the bullpen so they can earn their spot back. Swisher, Jeter, Burnett, Hughes
How did Teixeira start hitting again? Dave Eiland must have had him throwing bullpens on the side.
M,
He was safe. The replays showed it. From that angle you can’t tell, but from any other angle is was clear. Papelbon was just being himself: loud and obnoxious.
Actually even though this is Memorial Day Weekend, my sister pointed out to me that Memorial Day isn’t until the 29th. (I think she said the 29th). Therefore I will save me Memorial Day official tagline for that day.
RalphieD where did you get the statline ?
Everyone ready for the domination to continue? CC going today. Sox and Toronto are seriously slumping. Here we come – first place by 6pm tonight. After that, there is no looking back.
Can someone please take the juice away from the 37 year old Ibanez….
Cashman is drooling over M. Cain being available.
needless to say, “me too”.
GJ CC!
“How did Teixeira start hitting again? Dave Eiland must have had him throwing bullpens on the side.”
*hysterical.
brandon
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2009
*http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/split.cgi?t=b&team=NYY&year=2009*
brandon ^^
i cant post the link for some reason brandon but i got it from the team page of baseball ref
Ibanez has always been a special hitter, he just never had protection, amazing what batting infront of Ryan Howard does. Me and someone else made that arguement about him last season and there was some stat geek that came out w/ a new stat that showed he would be better than Bobby Abreu, so far they are right.
Thanks Ralphie.
Jetah!
Cain’s stuff is trending the wrong way and even if his “traditional” stats aren’t, it’s likely they’ll be headed that way soon. Probably wouldn’t be a good fit or worth the price in the AL East.
http://www.fangraphs.com/fanta.....gh-on-cain
Matt Cain is younger than Tim Lincecum
The happy .200 hitting Alex Rodriguez
“Ibanez has always been a special hitter, he just never had protection, amazing what batting infront of Ryan Howard does.”
A special hitter? Is that why he didn’t make the majors as an everyday player until 30? Is that why he’s never posted an OPS above .883? Why did he have a traditional career arc until this year? Why is he suddenly hitting HR on 23% of his flyballs compared to 11% over the last two years? These kinds of improvements can’t be explained at age 37 just because he changed parks and hits in front of an overrated power hitter.
By the way, Jair Jurjjens has been tremendous for the Braves. I am seriously doubting that the Jays are going to get much out of him.
I can see clearly now, first place is near
Yanks conquered all obstacles in their way
Negative nellies can drop all their fear
It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
Sun-Shiny day.
We know they can make it now, the rain is gone
All of the bad karma has disappeared
Here is the rainbow we’ve been praying for
It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
Sun-Shiny day.
Look all around, there’s nothin but first place
Look straight ahead, nothin but first place
I can see clearly now, first place is near
Yanks conquered all obstacles in their way
Negative nellies can drop all their fear
It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
Sun-Shiny day.
GO YANKEES!!!
I wonder if they rather pitch to Robi here.
Nasty pitch
“Matt Cain is younger than Tim Lincecum”
Not even close. More walks per 9 and far fewer Ks. Lincecum is special. Cain is a good 3rd starter in the AL.
AY!
Oh Alex why didn’t you take the walk.
It was a strike Brandon
Well – guess what the Yankees are trying to bring Wang’s arm slot back to where it was.
As with that short post earlier today about the Angels and CC – the Yankees apparently know a bi more about the inner workings of baseball than most of us on the Board.
Randy – Where are you? Read the latest post.
I guess the Yankees are not purposely trying to raise Wang’s arm slot and are actually trying to correct the issue.
“A special hitter? Is that why he didn’t make the majors as an everyday player until 30? Is that why he’s never posted an OPS above .883? Why did he have a traditional career arc until this year? Why is he suddenly hitting HR on 23% of his flyballs compared to 11% over the last two years? These kinds of improvements can’t be explained at age 37 just because he changed parks and hits in front of an overrated power hitter.”
He played in a pitchers park and had no protection what so ever, also his line vs LHP showed he was a special batter, the change from Safeco to Citizen helps, also Ryan Howard is so not an overrated power hitter.
Sam – Much thanks for the info from Dave Eiland. I do appreciate it.
You’ve done a nice job filling in for Pete.
“As with that short post earlier today about the Angels and CC – the Yankees apparently know a bit more about the inner workings of baseball than most of us on the Board.”
My mantra!
“By the way, Jair Jurjjens has been tremendous for the Braves. I am seriously doubting that the Jays are going to get much out of him”
Another guy on my fantasy team that I don’t like. He’s getting by right now, but the low K/9, declining GB rate (51% in 2008 to 36% in 2009) and low BABIP (.241 in 2009) worries me about his chances at long-term success.
“It was a strike Brandon”
I glimpsed last moment, if it was a strike then I have no issues.
CC has got his work cut out for him
CC Joba Bear Ryan Howard Pete who wins?
LOL Melky telling Robi to wake up
“CC Joba Bear Ryan Howard Pete who wins?”
Is the bear Prince Fielder ?
The bear wins, every time.
filthy change up
lol @ werth wearing GUCCI shades at the plate
Brandon I wanted the fight to be even
AB, I also had him on my fantasy team! Boy it sound like we have a bit of cross over. I dropped him only because I needed more Ks than he could give me. My starters were really strong enough otherwise that I could afford to drop him. But in terms of his effectiveness right now, he’s been very good.
watching cc pitch is beauty
Ugh. Had to mute TBS. If Buck martinez wasn’t enough. They have Eckersly, too. He sees the Sox regularly? Does he work for NESN?
All four of them lose to Prince
MaineYankee
Berrora’s ROY season was in 6 years ago and he hasn’t been a contributor at the major league level since. Greene hit 27 home runs the season before last. Plus, even at 31 there are questions about Berrora’s real age. Greene is only 29. Not too much of a difference but power guys often don’t develop until 27. Could be a useful util inf. Thats all.
Thanks for the response.
Sunny, I am thinking CC is more than equal to the task.
I don’t know why but I have the feeling that we are definitely going to get to Cole Hamels today.
“lol @ werth wearing GUCCI shades at the plate”
I noticed that too, I didn’t know Gucci makes MLB sunglasses
Eck works for NESN
lol @ werth wearing GUCCI shades at the plate
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Do you still get to be revered in Philly for being “gritty” and “gutty” and get away with wearing Gucci sunglasses during a game? Maybe its the beard.
five iron, thanks for posting that, I missed the update.
randy, I await your response. I think a couple nights ago you said you were going “all in” on the arm slot change being a deliberate move by the Yanks? Now what?
I put Joba and in the front row and make them watch. Agreed. Watching the big guy work is a thing of beauty. Also, nice work by Cervelli calling pitches. He’s checking out what CC has. Absolutely great.
Come on, Cano. 2-0? Well, at least you saw 3 pitches. That will up your pitches seen per AB.
Matt Cain was throwing 96 mph in the 8th inning of his last start. SF would be nuts to trade him unless they’re given a Godfather-type offer, imho.
mel, listen to it long enough you’re going to want to jam your first down Orsillo’s throat. Not only is he loud, every call he makes sounds like game 7 of the world series. I can’t stand listening to him.
Eck has been doing the broadcasts until Remy returns.
Hideki 1-0 you know your not going to see a fastball, take that change up, same for Robi on 2-0
Sam-Thanks for the info from Eiland
Just make Hamels throw a lot of pitches. I don’t think he’s a 125-pitch guy like CC and Madson might not be available tonight.
3-2 he doesn’t want to throw him a fastball, stop swinging at ball 4
Sam -
Appreciate you taking the issue to Eiland.
swung at ball 4
Horrible swing by Matsui. If he lets that go Melky is safe at 2B because of the walk.
Matsui Melky yuck
uh…he was save!
Sam, many thanks for speaking to Eiland, many folks here, myself included have been extrememely curious in the Wang situation…how his drop off – injury aside – can be so steep.
Matsui swung at ball 4.
“NEW YORK — Yankees reliever Brian Bruney came away from playing catch before Sunday’s game with the same right elbow pain that has been plaguing him since his return from the disabled list.
And with no signs of structural damage in both Thursday’s MRI and Friday’s arthogram, Bruney isn’t sure what to make of his arm pain or status in the Yankees bullpen.
“It just doesn’t feel right,” Bruney said following Sunday’s 35- to 45-pitch session. “And it’s not something that I’ve felt before.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb
im guessing long is gonna chalk that up as a “bad” ab for matsui
And now bad Bruney news great
Thanks for asking, Sam.
It’s a shame Matsui’s bat has slowed that much. He’s cheating on the swing.
Trisha
Did you see that NESN is showing Scranton against Pawtucket tue. night?
Whoah, I look away for a minute and it’s two outs.
Nice CC!
Don’t let Ruiz beat you!
MainYank – didn’t see it! Thanks for the info. I usually try to get there during Scranton series. Maybe I’ll take in Tuesday’s game. If not it will be so cool to be able to watch it on television!!!
Noooo weak grounder
That update about Wang doesn’t make sense. If his body started moving forward to soon, his release point would be lower than normal because he’d be at a maximum stretch. If he held his body back, his release point would be higher, as he’d be releasing the ball before he reaches full extension.
Pouring in Boston
Bad play by Gardner.
horrible
Girardi basically said it right there.
Phil Hughes is in the rotation, Wang is not ready.
I think he’s going to make him earn it from the BP.
Damn Brett I thought you had it. good job backing up Melky.
very bad play by gardner…
Having Sam with us is always a really nice thing.
I’m tempted to say that Melky catches that but I’m not sure.
darn it
damn gardy justtt missed that..nice backup by melky
dammmit
2 run inning the result of Brett’s dive
2 outs, dude.
2 OUTS.
Ugh, I hate 2 out runs.
Look away for another minute and they’ve scored…
Giveth and taketh.
Damn
That’s…that’s great, CC. Just great.
that play changed the inning, buy nice try by gardner
ugh I hate 2 out rallies by the other team, especially when their number 9 hitting catcher starts it
Well, this should bring out the whiners and trolls from under their rocks.
It’s pretty sunny here right now but the forecast is for thundershowers. I guess they’re on their way.
nice try…?come on!if he dives he should have it…
“I’m tempted to say that Melky catches that but I’m not sure.”
Not a chance, but he wouldn’t dive and cause a 2 R inning
When exactly does Pete come back? Today or tomorrow?
Today will be the 20th come-from-behind win for the Yanks.
Cervelli just needs to call a better game
This is the downside to when a pitcher cruises through and dominates hitters. The second a runner gets on base or a bad play is made in the field, the game starts to speed up a little.
Hopefully we can get back these runs soon, because I don’t want our hitters to start pressing against Hamels.
obviously in hind-sight is wasnt the right move for gardner to dive..but its not like was far away from it and dove for no reason, he could have caught that ball no doubt..he didnt, oh well…lets score some runs..
BG better make it up with his bat.
It’s the eyes
Atlanta is up 2-0.
Nice job, Cervelli!
Cervelli!
it’s the dreamy eyes…LOL.
To dive or not to dive, that is the question.
I’m watching gameday so I have no idea. But I’m guessing it’s a “gutsy” rookie mistake. I can live with that. Now if Ibanez had homered, then I could not have lived with it. 2 runs? No problem.
You don’t dive unless you’re sure or unless it is to save a run, just a bad decision by GGBG, but nice try he almost had it,and its only the 3rd inning so I’m calm
Speaking of whiners and trolls, though I don’t see a lot of those familiar screennames, if you’re here and brave enough to do it, raise your hand if you whined and complained about either CC or Tex and were calling them bad pickups because they started off slowly.
A teaching moment. Both were known to start slowly. May I counsel patience when it comes to wanting to disappear Yankee players just because they are not performing like marionettes at any given point in time?
Going back to what Yankee Five Iron said, the Yankee organization knows infinitely more than any of us here about scouting players.
GO YANKEES!!!!!
cervelli is really doing a great job
Heh, no one gave Cervelli the memo that he’s not supposed to be able to hit.
Should Gardner try and bunt here?
Brett 2 – 0 WTH are you doing… take
Would Babe Ruth ever bunt in this situation?
Everyone loves speed. Speed kills.
And right there Gardner killed the yankees.
Just awful judgement right there. Awful. Complete lack of awareness of the game situation on Gardner’s part.
There are two outs and upt to that point CC was dominant. Who cares about a circus catch? It’s not as if CC is struggling and they have to get the out do or die. It’s not the 8th inning.
The key thing there was to make sure the run does not score. Give CC the chance to get out of the 1 and 3rd jam.
Terrible lack of game recognition on Gardner’s part.
“It’s the eyes”
My fantasy catcher is going on the 15 day DL. I think I might pick up my REAL fantasy catcher – Cervelli!!!!!
Man alive those eyes.
At least the bottom of our lineup is seeing pitches today.
With 2 outs and a runner on 1st, Gardner should have kept that ball in front of him. His instincts told him to dive, so be it.
I still think Gardner should have bunted there. He might have gotten a hit but worst case scenario, you have Jeter up with a runner at third and 1 out.
In a game like this, you have to play small ball.
Yeah he should have I was joking. 2 aces on the mound you have to get em how anyway you can.
Alright, Jeets looking scruffy and dirty in early innings again.
Sorry for my lateness as I’m in tivo mode and about 5 minutes behind.
Matsui sucks right now. He swung at ball 4 and 5 as he always does. He has no patience and discipline at the plate and continues to kill us. Instead of 1st and 2nd with one out he strikes out and Melky gets thrown out on bad call. And Cervelli follows with a double very nice.
Can’t wait for Posada to come back as Matsui goes to bench and becomes limited pinch hitter.
O
that so hit the dirt.
Damn, that was annoying – that bounced into the glove. The HP umpire couldn’t see it because of the glove, but why didn’t he check it with 1B?
Come on, please score in this inning. 2-1 is so much better than 2-0.
so far the best AB today / RISP is Brett’, sad it was a LD to the 2B and not the gap.
Absolutely would have bunted Gardner there
When Hamels throws meatballs, you can’t just let them go.
Damon!
Nice.
damon!!!!
Ok Johnny has the best AB w/ RISP today ….It’s the eyes
nice going damon
Nice Damon!
way to go Johnny D
Haha never mind…I guess Damon knew what he was doing.
It’s nice to get a 2-out run when Hamels was so close to pitching out of a jam.
Everything offspeed to Tex.
Coles is getting the outside strikes where Sabathia is not???
“Absolutely would have bunted Gardner there”
Why ? he was already in scoring position
wow
Oh Damn
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU BEING GREEDY!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!
2nd time Damon. Should have stayed with A-Rod up.
I hate Ruiz. His offense and defense has killed us in this series.
At least we’re hitting Hamels.
Dammit the Phillies arms in the OF that good ?
what!!! was damon walking home!!!
That’s a terrible send. That ball was too shallow, and Werth has a good arm. That was just an awful call, especially with Alex coming up next.
Home plate belongs to Carlos Ruiz. Very well done.
I think the Yanks should get the picture that we can’t push bottons w/ the Phils defense, same thing as Friday night
those phils can throw the baseball
Is robbie Thomson taking lessons from Bobby Meacham??
I know Damon is fast, but was that a good send? Make the last out at home, and now ARod has to lead off the next inning – instead of coming up with two men on base potentially.
Good send, was going to take a perfect throw and that is what happened.
Jason Werth was a nice player when he came up with the Dodgers, but he’s worked on becoming a fine ballplayer……..
Damon should of had a huge lead with a lefty pitching
Ruiz blocking the plate made that play. Damon is safe otherwise. Because he tagged him after Damon would have touched the plate had Ruiz not been sitting on it.
Yea, i don’t think they should have sent him, but if the catcher is going to completely block the plate like that, you need to send him flying. The ball could have been 5 seconds late and you’d have to circle around him to get to the plate. You need to put him on his rear..
Haha Damon trying to knock the ball out of Ruiz’s mitt.
Is a runner allowed to take the ball out of the glove????
It was close enough a play at the plate that you can see why Damon was sent.
Slit happens.
Move on.
I like the aggressiveness, but is it really that necessary in the 3rd inning?
At least we’re seeing a lot of pitches. Hamels is already at 55 pitches after 3 innings. If we can get him outta there after the 5th or 6th and CC pitches well, we have a good chance.
“Nick Johnson was a late scratched from Sunday’s lineup against the Orioles.
Maybe a trade? But this is Nick Johnson, so it’s a whole lot safer to assume there’s an injury of some sort. Josh Willingham started in Johnson’s place, with Adam Dunn moving to first.”
Jorge would’ve given that an “olé”.
It happens in collisions the the collision with the runner knocks the ball out of the catchers hand and the runner is called safe, so I suppose it can’t be?
2 outs, you send him. Good send, better play by the defense.
The Gardner play, not the send, is the mistake so far today.
WTH he actually looked comfortable on that pop up ?
Sam,
Thanks for the clarification on Wang’s release point and mechanics. Nice example of how a the interaction a blog allows can expand enhance our insight into the game as fans. Appreciated.
Wang’s lost his mechanics and wind up and in turn he’s lost his release point. He needs to rebuild the muscle memory needed to get back to where he was.
Doesn’t seem like the major leagues are the place to do that.
That was a terrible play. Keep Damon at 3rd base. Also bad slide by Damon needs to run into the catcher. That is the 2nd time in this series that they tested the left fielder.
how many pitches is CC at?
55 pitches for CC
Sorry Dutch Roger, didn’t realize the play was in front of Gardner till later. Pass the pointed hat to me.
56 pitches
“Ruiz blocking the plate made that play. Damon is safe otherwise.”
But catchers are supposed to block the plate.
Maybe its just me, but I always thought a catcher not blocking the plate was the exception rather than the rule.
Angel, it could be that what they are seeing from Hamels made that play a necessary risk in their minds? Anyway, to quote our immortal players:
“We say we always have a shot until the last out,” Robinson Cano said.
“As long as we have the last three outs or last six outs, we feel like something good’s going to happen,” Alex Rodriguez said.
Cano immortal?? Surely you jest.
THats the 2nd time recently IIRC, that Damon let the catcher sit on the plate and attempted a weak slide rather than plowing into him. I’m not advocating being reckless but thats pretty weak.
“Also bad slide by Damon needs to run into the catcher.”
I have to disagree with you on this, Rachel. One run is in now way worth the risk of losing Johnny D. for any period of time. Ruiz is basically in full body armor. Johnny would’ve been mince meat.
60 pitches for CC now
Mark-Cant Touch This
May 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Damon should of had a huge lead with a lefty pitching
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I agree, somethimes it’s the little things. I don’t think he had a big enough initial or secondary lead with 2 outs. The ball was not hit that hard that I couldn’t believe there was that close of a play at the plate.
Okay, once you get over the fact that Damon got thrown out at the plate, was anyone else thinking WWE?
I suspect all the Phillies’ fans got their tickets online, from speculators who bought season tickets and then dumped them on the market, via StubHub.
I hope ticket speculators lose money this season.
>Why ? he was already in scoring position
Because bunting and running really fast is something Gardner can do to the Yankees advantage.
There is a higher probability of Gardner successfully moving the runner over and possibly beating the throw to 1B on a bunt than if you let him swing away.
Damon has a bad shoulder. He shouldn’t run into anything
I realize this game isn’t over. I dont know what I’m posting that indicates that I think it might be.
I’m just pondering the decision. It seemed like it was a replay of the last time they tested the LF in Game 1, so wondering if it was smart to go again.
I rarely question anything they do.
Game 7 of the World Series, Johnny should plow into the catcher.
An inter-league game vs. the Phils in May? No way, no how.
THats the 2nd time recently IIRC, that Damon let the catcher sit on the plate and attempted a weak slide rather than plowing into him. I’m not advocating being reckless but thats pretty weak.
And risk injury to the catcher? Did you forget that Cervelli was injured last year because somebody decide to plow to him? Or it deosnt matter because Ruiz is not your catcher?
“Cano immortal?? Surely you jest.”
Stultus -
1. more immortal than you!
2. are you always so literal?
Well Hamels has just been filthy w/ Al today.
Christina, your approach to posting is really going get people’s backs up here, I think.
Anyone know why Utley isn’t playing?
2 ABs and I think 13 or 14 pitches seen by Al vs Hamels and he still has him where he wants him.
Lets go Melk
Robinson Cano is a lycan.
“I realize this game isn’t over. I dont know what I’m posting that indicates that I think it might be.
I’m just pondering the decision. It seemed like it was a replay of the last time they tested the LF in Game 1, so wondering if it was smart to go again.
I rarely question anything they do.”
If that’s for me, I was merely suggesting a possibility. I didn’t, nor would I, think for a second you thought the game was over.
If it wasn’t for me, never mind.
Eckersly on TBS during the Mets-Sox game on now: “When Papi gets going, he can’t be stopped” ha ha….is every national media outlet in love w/ the Sox…he also said it’s clear the Sox are the best team in the division….they will be biting their tounge once September rolls around
Yanks offense needs to start chipping a way
When a catcher that’s a big as Ruiz is, anchors himself over home plste on both knees is not the time to think you can run him over.
Christina25 – Damon plays every game of his life on sore knees. That he didn’t attempt a bigger body slam into the catcher so that he could wrinkle into a complete accordian somehow doesn’t bother me a whit. Remember these aren’t the Red Sox who can’t seem to put games away. These are the Yankees who are noted for their comebacks. Damon not approximating Gorilla Monsoon in the third inning – nothing but intelligent.
The Yanks have only scored 1 run but the good news is Cole Hamels is at 75 pitches already. Sabathia has only thrown 60. Hopefully Hamels is done after 5 and Sabathia can go 7 or 8.
hopefully matsui’s hot streak is coming…he is as streaky as a car window freshly washed in the sun
Does Matsui have ANY use at this point? It’s just painful and depressing watching him bat at this point.
i don’t know what more you can ask from the yankees so far today. they’re having decent at-bats against a very good pitcher, they’re down one run in the fourth inning of a game that almost certainly isn’t going to end 2-1 and they had a chance to tie the game but didn’t because the phillies played great defense. they aren’t going to win all of their games. sabathia’s pitching well and they’re in this game. let them actually blow it before we start killing them for blowing it.
Paul Simon: “I stepped outside and smoke myself a J.”
He’s the man.
Trisha,
You name dropped Gorilla Monsoon in a baseball analogy, and immediately became one of my favorite people ever.
Eckersley is paid to be a Red Sox homer. Just part of the job description.
One run in the 3rd inning of a May interleague game is not worth an injury to Johnny Damon.
It’s hard to watch Matsui struggle. I hope he gets his groove back…and become an immortal lycan like Cano.
Tampayank, Eck works for NESN and has been doing a lot of broadcasts with Orsillo with Remy out.
Awww, Mets leading.
Christina25, go see what your friends think about Papelcrap’s pitch selection last night. Or don’t.
Matsui is really struggling….He just pulls off of every pitch like we have seen so many times from him before.
Matsui looking better, didn’t pull it to the 2B.
No, just the first part was, lol.
It wasn’t meant to be snarky, just hoping my posts weren’t coming across that I was giving up. Because thats the last thing I’d do.:)
I sure hope the Red Suckers get swept at home. Would be a brilliant weekend.
Kasey, I don’t believe it, an optimistic comment.
Advocating that Damon drill Riuz is crazy…..I can only scratch my head in wonder !!! CB, good to hear from you & I agree Wang needs much work…After 5 plus years throwing from the same plane you’d think he’d have no problem….It could be some time before Wang is Wang again….
“You name dropped Gorilla Monsoon in a baseball analogy, and immediately became one of my favorite people ever.”
Donnie, thanks. I do whatever it takes.
joe,
the phillies announcers said awhile ago that utley is feeling fine but charlie manuel doesnt think he is 100% yet. but they didnt say why he was not playing today. then went on to babble about how utley is in manuels top 5 players.
i wish i was watching the yankees feed instead of the phillies
sometimes it sucks living right outside of philly.
Look, no HRs so far, sounds like fixing the stadium with good pitching might actually work. That Buck Showalter was on to something. (insert winky emoticon here)
Angel, the day you give up is the day that I leave this forum!
(DonnieBaseball is salivating…)
Scorpio May 24th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Look, no HRs so far, sounds like fixing the stadium with good pitching might actually work. That Buck Showalter was on to something. (insert winky emoticon here)
lmao
CC doing some Toyota Prius-like pitching.
Christina-
And risk injury to the catcher? Did you forget that Cervelli was injured last year because somebody decide to plow to him? Or it deosnt matter because Ruiz is not your catcher?
The catcher decides to risk injury when he chooses to block the plate. Its not really allowed in the rules- the baserunner is entitled to the plate. When the catcher (with hard knee pads on I remind you) blocks the plate he is creating a health hazard for the pplayer making a normal slide. The choice is then to concede the run as Damon did or ram the guy.
Phillies gettin’ impatient…
Go Yanks! Send Hamels right back out there!
If I ever say that I’m giving up, then it won’t be me posting here.
CB – are those your initials or a nickname?
trying to figure out if i know you haha…
the two catcher down in tampa (no, not posada and molina if they are there yet) montero and romine are having 2 nice games…montero 1 for 2 with a double and a sac fly ..romine has 2 doubles and 2 rbis
I wouldn’t mind if they let Pena play 3rd and let Arod DH a couple of games a week. Especially against a lefty. Matsui just looks finished to me. Every season he goes into these long slumps were he just pulls everything to 2nd base. It takes him forever to get out of them. But now it is hard to tell if it is age, health, slump or what.
kasey
May 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
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Words of reason there, Kasey.
I know this has to sound totally weird, but I swear I have never looked at someone’s eyes on television and actually had a visceral reaction. Those are the kind of eyes that could talk you out of your clothes!
And don’t get all jumpy since I don’t spend my time here talking about Yankee players as sex objects!
I’d be a-okay if Molina never comes back. Cervelli should be here to stay.
Gardner is having good AB’s today.
They’re making Hamels work for his outs. Thats a good thing.
Tim Redding is still the same Tim Redding
Boston 3, Mets 1.
i gotta say, i love watching CC pitch.
i’d like to see the yanks take a few more pitches from hamels. at this point, he can probably go seven and that’s bad news. cervelli swung at a pitch i’d rather see him take but that’s nitpicking. for the most part, they’re taking what hamels gives them and he’s not giving them much. you just gotta hope CC keeps putting zeroes up.
Angel, this comment started a DonnieBaseball firestorm yesterday but I am going to say it again. I’m not sure that our OPPC hasn’t done some good here!
Did you say that when Cervelli got hurt?
It also seems like Gardner does better in short appearances. If he plays a full game he goes 0-4. But for some odd reason when he pinch hits..he hits. Playing him and Matsui today against the lefty wasn’t a good move. But I guess besides Pena they didn’t really have an other good options.
I think it’s yet to be seen whether Wang needs more work. He got hit a little the other night but his stuff looks a lot better. I’d like to see him get a start this week so we can see where he’s at.
Come on Damon! Pop one up into the jetstream
“After 5 plus years throwing from the same plane you’d think he’d have no problem….It could be some time before Wang is Wang again….”
Pat M.,
That’s what’s so strange about the situation. How is it that a pitcher can 1) lose his mechanics so that his arm slot completely changes after being successful for so long; 2) not have enough insight into his own pitching process to be able to correct it?
How is it that Wang himself can’t fix this? After several years of throwing this one pitch – the pitch his entire career is built on – how can’t wang be able to get his arm slot back?
The yankee’s coaching is not getting the job done at all as he’s still not fixed and they seem to be at a loss. 6 weeks later the same problem persists. Then the FO panicked and rushed him back. But Wang has to be able to have enough control and insight into his own mechanics to avoid an ERA of 30. He just has to.
Could you imagine Brandon Webb losing his mechanics this drastically and being at a complete loss as to how to fix himself and get his ball to sink again?
Hopefully Wang has some kind of eureka moment and it all snaps back into place.
But I agree – I think this is going to take a long time in all likelihood.
Getting Wang back is now the biggest source of uncertainty for this team.
lol, he’s keeping a low profile so far today, so perhaps it is.
Hamels at 89 pitches. We shouldn’t let him pitch more than 6.
Bad news: Our offense has looked, for the most part, silly against Hamels.
Good news: He’s at 90 pitches, and will likely go the 6th and then we’ll have the bullpen for the 7th, 8th, and 9th.
You’re really starting to take on the tendencies of a gnat, Christina25.
Is there a Japanese Mothra?
Tim Redding looks so much like Youkilis it’s scary.
Patrick, the only place that I want to see Wang start is in AA or AAA …..35 % of his pitches the outher night had good downward tilt movement, oterwise he was meat…He’s not even close to be ready to pitch in the bigs….
See Donnie, I’d have to disagree.
The fact he’s at 90 pitches, would tend to indicate they haven’t looked silly against him. If he was at 50, then I’d agree. They’ve been making him work for his outs. He’s a good pitcher, and for the most part, they’re working with what they’re given.
well that’s an example how Brett’s speed to the ball scared a runner.
“How is it that Wang himself can’t fix this? After several years of throwing this one pitch – the pitch his entire career is built on – how can’t wang be able to get his arm slot back?”
i don’t know if this is still the case but wang was convinced his mechanics were the same as ever, so that mental block may be playing in to it. this is a problem that appears to be about 90% mental.
This is a rhetorical question so please bear with me. Well, if anyone has any possible answers, it doesn’t have to remain rhetorical. What kind of loser comes onto another team’s forum and does nothing but criticizes the team’s players? WTF is up with that?????
Damn that Ibanez
Ibanez I hate you come on CC no more runs
Damn CC
Jesus Christ, CC, come on. Stop making the offense’s job harder.
im surprised cc left it there for him…damn
He shouldn’t have thrown anything near the plate to Ibanez on a 1-2 count.
trisha, which eyes?
CC has given up way to many hits to guys with 2 strikes. He is too good to keep doing that.
That really hurt. CC REALLY missed his spot there. He had him too with 2 strikes, just a bad pitch to a 37 year old juice man.
I’m not crazy about Gardner as a fielder.
To me the biggest mistake with Wang was not getting him back physically BEFORE he got on the mound at all. He did almost no running and running is critical to most pitchers.
Let’s hope they can get him straightened out.
Oh thank you Melky
Its so bright I cant see a thing.
trouble brewing. at some point, this team is going to run out of comebacks.
But I AM crazy about Da Melk as a fielder!
thats bad baserunning right there…how are you not on 3rd
I know that was Ryan Howard, but CC is giving up a lot of HARD hits this inning. Either he’s gassed already, or he’s not focusing and leaving things up.
I’m not crazy about Gardner as anything other then 25th man on the roster. Unfortunately, until Nady and Posada come back Gardner has to play. He really doesn’t do anything well (except run, of course).
That pitch was also right over the plate to Howard…
thunder, Cervelli’s eyes.
“That is yet to be seen. I am trying not to be a jerk but what makes you think you know more than the Yankees? It’s a bit offensive that you claim to know with absolute certainty that Wang will be garbage if he changes his arm slot. At least have an open mind.”
patrick-
sorry for the delay.
having differing opinions is useful in getting to the truth of things. you’re right that i don’t know for sure that changing wang’s arm slot won’t screw him up forever. i just think there is a high probability that it will.
there’s also the problem of the yankees not admitting that’s what they’re doing.
we’ve already waited for six weeks while the yankees tried to fix wang. i don’t think another 6 weeks is going to change the results if the high release stays .
i’m going to everything i can to get it out there that the yankees are purposely changing wang’s release point. i’m pretty sure that they will back off at some point or someone will be fired for pushing it.
no one on the yankees wants to be the one who takes credit for this experiment ( and that’s what it is). why do you think that is.
the answer is that it’s a career killer if it doesn’t work.
we’ll keep debating this until it comes to a conclusion as it will.
hopefuly for wang and the yankees they back off and let him be the pitcher he used to be.
and as i said , i welcome the thoughtful disagreement.
as far as knowing more than the yankees. neil allen is a close friend of mine and he’s not a close friend with brian cashman who fired him. that’s why i know more than the yankees.
So far Gardenhoser’s dive in the 3rd looks to be causing us big time.
“Damn that Ibanez”
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Stop throwing the guy hittable fastballs. He threw Ibanez 3 94mph fastballs.
Why has CC stopped throwing the changeup?
What is up fellas. Im not sure if this has been discussed. The Reds just demoted Bailey to the minors after yesterdays bad outing. Why do i bring him up? He was the only pitcher ranked higher than Hughes when he was called up to the majors in 06. He gave up 6 runs in 4 innings. For all the injuries Hughes has had and all the impatience from the fans. I think he isnt as bad as we all think for a 22 year old. I dont think any of us can say he isnt a legit 5 or 6 right now. Lets all just sit back and watch that kid turn into the Phranchise we were all expecting a bit too early.
btw, can we have ibanez take a piss test?
How do you let Ibanez steal third??
“He really doesn’t do anything well (except run, of course).”
He takes better paths to the ball, just no arm to make up for misses.
oooh good call, trisha! i liked looking at them in trenton when i’d talk to him everyday haha.
phillies announcers just commented on how nice it is for the players in the dugouts at NYS because they have air conditioning.
“kasey
May 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
trouble brewing. at some point, this team is going to run out of comebacks.
”
that’s what I was thinking, how much drama can you have in 1 homestand?
Gardner’s defense has been average but very overrated. It seems he might try alittle too hard sometimes and over play a ball.
“How do you let Ibanez steal third??”
when did Ibanez steal third…he advanced on a wild pitch ball in the dirt
Popping in from the game on my Blackberry Bold! I haven’t been to a losing game yet and this is my last chance to go to the stadium until June. We MUST win!
“He takes better paths to the ball”
Not really. As evidenced by the failed dive today and by the many times that he looks lost going back on balls. Like I said, we really don’t have any other options right now. At least until Nady and Posada come back and bump Gardner out of the lineup.
Way to get out of that CC
ibanez – phils player of the week. they must have said it 6 times now.
Good job working out of that jam. Now we need to score off Hamels with Tex, Arod coming up.
Donnie,
Do you ever have anything positive in acfame thread?
How about giving the Phillies some credit? They are after all the Defending Champs and Ibanez is having a career year so far.
They aren’t exactly slugs.
Did CC look “gassed” on the Werth K?
Didn’t think so.
It’s a 3-1 game. Still anybody’s game.
It’s premature to say that Wang isn’t ready to come back. He looked fine the other night and has looked fine in AAA. Give him a start then we can decide if he is ready or not.
This is the inning to get back into this game. Time to knock Hamels out!
Mets take a 4-3 lead…
I would love a Yanks rally consisting of only singles, doubles, and triples w/ no home runs hit for either team…..be a nice change and the home run stat comparison to last year on Sportscenter can go away for a day:)
Mets 4-3 over Boston.
It isn’t like the Yankees lead the league in come from behind victories or anything. We should all just stop watching right now, clearly the game is over.
Mets tied it up 3-3
Oops, Mets winning now. 4-3
“He was the only pitcher ranked higher than Hughes when he was called up to the majors in 06.”
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while I’m not suggesting that Hughes won’t be great, your logic that because Bailey hasn’t yet lived up to his hype means anything with relation to Hughes doesn’t add up to much.
There are dozens of prospects in the minors that some scouts have tabbed as the next big thing. If 20% of them become all-stars I’d be surprised.
The good news for Hughes is that he is 22 and has a long time to show he is the exception.
Lol Tex hits a broken bat homerun!
Go Yanks!!!!!
A broken bat HR ?
welp Nevermind:)
WHAT THE HELL….how was that out!!!
This is a rhetorical question, though if anyone has any response it doesn’t have to remain so. What kind of loser goes onto another team’s forum and does nothing but criticizes the team’s players? WTF is up with that?????
Tex!
Why do we even watch this team they have no chance to come back
Oh hey look the lead is cut in half
Man some of you people are really dopey
Thank you wind tunnel. What a joke a broken bat homerun lol I hate to say it but this place is a joke…
TEX!
that broken bat HR pretty much sums the new stadium… i hate it
Tex marks the spot!
Wow. Broken bat homer.
that’s the most ridiculous home run i’ve ever seen
Oh man, was that a broken bat homer? I’m watching game day. That would be funny…
Wakefield had been a pleasant surprise for the Sox and their only dependable starter over the first 6 weeks.
If he starts to struggle, they better hope Beckett and Lester wake up or they’re headed for 4th place.
PAT M, as we were saying over the last couple of days….that ain’t the park…it’s the Titleist that they’re using.
Hopefully the guys will have better at bats the 3rd time around the lineup…
haha, bad pitch Hamels.
Ok, please Yanks get more runs in…I have a BBQ waiting!
The yanks will need to seriously address this mess they have created. I wonder how much can be done?
he hit it on the sweet spot so …and it’s a maple wood full extension but wow
Arod can’t figure Hamels out.
test that man TODAY! ….or nevermind, maybe don’t
Rough day for Alex…
Damn Cole just owns Al today.
This is the worst that Rodriguez has looked since he returned.
This is a rhetorical question, though if anyone has any response it doesn’t have to remain so. What kind of loser goes onto another team’s forum and does nothing but criticizes the team’s players? WT*F is up with that?????
(The asterisk was a test because I tried to post this and it got caught in the censor twice. So I’m thinking it could be the censor doesn’t like the word “frig”…)
He he he
“Thank you wind tunnel. What a joke a broken bat homerun lol I hate to say it but this place is a joke…”
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It’s not the first time it’s happened… and this just in – Teixeira is a strong dude.
But if it’s a joke, as long as the Yankees are having the last laugh, Peter Gammons and the rest of the league can tell it as many times as they want.
i gotta say, for the most part, arod still looks rusty. yeah, his homers have been great but he’s definitely a ways off from being at “full speed.”
this stadium is a joke. very disappointing.
Randy I, I thinkit’s rather cool that Sam asked about Wang and got a response….The point is screw the secondary pitches and go back to what worked….Send him to the viseo room and watch tapes from 05-08…Get him to AAA for at least three starts before he ever throws in the bigs again…..I don’t completely believe entirely in what was said about the modifications to Wang, but at least they acknowledge he’s a different pitcher….And that many Yankee fans know this also….
The Immortal!
Brandon,
It’s funny, everybody says Gardner takes better routes to the ball. I’ve heard scouts say the same thing. Problem is, he hasn’t done that at all this year.
I’ve never seen a bat shatter like that for a HR.
That extra run Gardner gave up on that poor decision to dive for that ball is the difference in the game thus far.
Rachel – Why is the Stadium a joke?
They play baseball there. HRs are hit during baseball games. They hit HRs at Yankee Stadium.
How many HRs is the correct number? And how does it compare to those at Boston, either around the Pesky Pole (what, 298′) or at the Green Monster?
pat m-
you have been behind the professional baseball curtain.
you and i both know there are a lot of dumb decisions made by management. the thing that many on the blog don’t get is that it’s not as professional as you’d expect at all times.
a lot of arbitrary decisions are made and not all of them by people who should be making them and the way wang is being handled is one of them.
unless he gets back to his natural arm slot, he’s going to struggle. i say why take a chance when he was money in the bank as he was. why change him?
it’s just a bad decision.
It’s a true testament to Cano’s talent that he’s able to hit .300 with the horrible approach he has at the plate.
William Buckner May 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
this stadium is a joke. very disappointing.
Its a JOKE! Hey Peter!
I’m not a fan of all the HR, but it doesn’t both me that much. I would like to see an independent party actually measure the wall distances, especially to the WB Mason sign… I bet that’s about 340 when it should be 360.
Yeah what a joke Tex crushed it off the sweet spot and SHOCKER it went over the fence
Melky > Cano Yeah I said it.
that Gardner play in the 3rd hurts, hopefully he makes it some how in the next few innings
“It’s funny, everybody says Gardner takes better routes to the ball. I’ve heard scouts say the same thing. Problem is, he hasn’t done that at all this year.”
Those scouts must be blind because I swear it looks like Melky gets to more balls in CF and he’s not nearly as fast as Gardner.
Brandon “Would love to meet Tim McCarver under the Oneill banner”
May 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
A broken bat HR ?
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I saw Eddie Mathews do that in Chicago back in the’63 or ‘64.
Gardner can’t play defense, he can’t hit
Aside from running, what can he do?
“It’s a true testament to Cano’s talent that he’s able to hit .300 with the horrible approach he has at the plate.”
Agreed. That sweet swing bails him out so many times…
“unless he gets back to his natural arm slot, he’s going to struggle. i say why take a chance when he was money in the bank as he was. why change him?
it’s just a bad decision.”
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do you think there was a conscious decision to change his arm slot?
To me, it sounds like they have a good idea about what’s wrong, they just don’t know how about getting Wang to make the right changes.
i’m over the launching pad thing. i know pete and others in the media think the new stadium is a “national joke.” just drop it already. find another story, they’re out there.
great at-bat by melky there.
I see nothing wrong with a bandbox ballpark
It adds character and mystique to the ballpark.
Melky hasn’t gone into a slump yet, so it’s hard to tell for sure, but his AB’s have been much better this year.
so 12HR so far this series I think, the Chowdah Gammons predicted 16, let’s see how it plays out
I think Arod’s “issues” today have more to do with that he has never seen Hamels before. In all 3 at bats he looked like he had no idea what to expect. I thought the 3rd time around it would be different. But that is what you get with interleague.
OMG, I love Matsui but he has got to go…rally killer, 3x today.
So is Hamels done? 109 pitches already
its amazing that people choose to defend a “stadium” and ignore all the numbers. the place plays like a joke and I think it cheapens the game tremendously.
That is more the ball than the stadium. HR’s are up all over baseball. The ball theory is as legit as the stadium.
3-2 and the Yankees left a guy on base.
Whiners, repeat after me, “this offense stinks. The game is over”.
Matsui is killing us now. Even worse than Swisher
Come back soon Nady
Mats
“so 12HR so far this series I think, the Chowdah Gammons predicted 16, let’s see how it plays out”
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Gammons also predicted Jon Lester would win the Cy Young and probably thought the Sox would win this series with the Mets.
Matsui and Gardner will be bench players when Nady and Posada come back. At this point, that’s where they belong.
CC needs to get through the next two and let the top of the order win this thing.
offense stinks. this game is over
see you in texas
Gammons was already 4 or 5 Tanqueray and tonics in when he made that prediction, so take it w/a grain of salt.
“I’ve never seen a bat shatter like that for a HR.”
Adrian Beltre vs us in the old YS to LF, I can’t remember who it was off, but the bat broke and the ball left the field.
Don’t need to be defensive.
You can look at one of two things. You can go by what you see, like broken bat home runs.
Or you can go by numbers, this stadium will set the record for HR allowed in a season.
I’m sure they’ll make adjustments in the off season, but buckle up. This will be an issue all year.
Jay’s game tied 2-2 in the 6th.
You can’t rely on rallies everyday.
Sometimes, you have to get a lead and protect it.
tampayank – in a sense, it doesn’t matter, because these geniuses never get called when they’re wrong.
“offense stinks. this game is over
see you in texas”
they only play 6 innings now?
“Matsui is killing us now.”
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many, if not most, players are streaky and go through slumps.
In a month, Melky might be lost at the plate and people will be calling for him to be DFA’d.
There will always be a few guys of the 9 who aren’t hitting. The idea is that the other guys pick them up. You also hope that the guys who are struggling can make productive outs.
If matsui is hurt, that’s a different story. But he was hitting quite well not that long ago.
Give the guy a break.
Godzilla is just setting us up for a walk off HR:)
Boston Dave,
My point was only that young pitchers will struggle more often than not to start off with when called up. Its not just our propects that we expect the world from that struggle up at the big league level. Cleveland dumped Marte this year. Most people on this blog were upset when we didnt get him in a trade and that he was a cant miss prospect with lots of pop. I agree, most prospects fail and they are a crap shoot. But i dont think we can put that tag on Hughes just yet.
IMO Melky in right is the Yankees testament to his superiority in the field since we all now where the majority of fly balls are going! That way Melky is able to catch all of the infield singles to right…
There’s a lot of red in the stands, lots of Phillies fans.
The stadium is the stadium right now. There is nothing they can do to change it during the season so for everyone from fans & media to b*tch and moan about it is pointless.
If it’s wind current related how the heck you gonna control mother nature? Someone said above that they should have an independent party measure the distance, very good idea, if the distance is not where it should be that is the ONLY gripe anyone can have. Raising the height of the barriers might help but most HRs so far have not had any fan interference so that issue isn’t even priority.
“I’ve never seen a bat shatter like that for a HR.”
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gotta watch more games I guess.
I’ve seen a few of them – Larry Walker was one that comes to mind.
A broken bat HR LOL
This place is awesome, I don’t care what Gammons, Mike F. etc. say.
Wow Paul Simon has aged! I thought that was an elderly woman!
matsui is brutal to watch. just brutal. i’d love seeing him on the bench as a pinch-hitter but, my god, is it hard watching him attempt to hit anymore.
Big CC
“There’s a lot of red in the stands, lots of Phillies fans.”
they keep talking about it on tv. everytime a big cheer goes up for the phils, the announcers get all excited.
The artest formally known as Ruth’s son Carlos Ruiz
ruiz is a yankee killer?
melky getting it done on defense
Randy I, At this point someone is being stubborn and it’ss at Wang’s expense…..Forget about the slider and whatever other pitch they weree tinkering with…..Next to Webb he had the best sinker in the business……..GB7, Rawlings has juiced up the balls this season….They did this back in 78 or so when Spaulding stopped making baseball for MLB…..I still think it’s designed to offset the drop in offensive numbers from the roid era……Selig’s damage control…..Just an opinion folks, so refrain from sending me to the gallows…..Some of us watch more than just Yankee games, and the ball is ALIVE this season
artist*
Carlos Ruiz is absolutely killing us this weekend. And it makes no sense…he is terrible! Come on CC, get out of this!
“Boston Dave,
My point was only that young pitchers will struggle more often than not to start off with when called up.”
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I know SOS and I agree. Anybody who wants to make a definitive opinion on Hughes right now is probably doing themselves a disservice.
He is 22 and shown enough to give the Yankees reason for realistic optimism.
“melky getting it done on defense”
RF looks to be beautiful for him in the future.
“offense stinks. this game is over
see you in texas”
YAWN!
They gave won 10 of their last 11 and are only 1 run down today. Stop whining.
When good teams play one another, there are going to be close games. Learn to deal with it.
“Why is the Stadium a joke?”
I would think most people would like a stadium that plays fair. Not where anything hit decent in the air goes out. That is VERY tough on the pitchers. A homerun should be a ball that is hit good. Not a slap hitter(Span) hitting a ball off the dirt or a broken bat. RF seems to be playing to about 300 feet with the wind. The stadium is on pace for over 300 homeruns this season, that is a joke.
Rachel May 24th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
“Why is the Stadium a joke?”
I would think most people would like a stadium that plays fair. Not where anything hit decent in the air goes out. That is VERY tough on the pitchers. A homerun should be a ball that is hit good. Not a slap hitter(Span) hitting a ball off the dirt or a broken bat. RF seems to be playing to about 300 feet with the wind. The stadium is on pace for over 300 homeruns this season, that is a joke.
Balls only go out for the yankees lol
“A broken bat HR LOL”
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It wasn’t Brett Gardner who did it. It was one of the better HR hitters in the game, who is absolutely crushing the ball lately, who hit it.
But people who are already convinced of something have a tendancy to find “evidence” to support their case even whenever and wherever they can – even if it’s questionable.
I doubt Melky will ever hit enough to stick in RF
SJ44,
I’m not being negative. I don’t think this game is lost yet at all. But CC had the ball hit hard three times in a row, which had been uncommon so far at that point. I said he was EITHER gassed, or was leaving the pitches up. He came back and got out of it, so clearly he WASN’T gassed. I simply mentioned that it was an option.
And I haven’t said once that this game is over. Just because I don’t shake the metaphorical pom poms and say “GO YANKEES GO!” at everything doesn’t mean I’m being “negative”. I’m simply discussing what’s going on at the moment. I know there are a lot of “bridge jumpers” here, but until someone starts ACTUALLY acting like one, don’t assume they are just because they don’t espouse the same unwavering optimism about EVERYTHING that happens. If something bad happens, I discuss it. The only reason I don’t talk about the POSITIVE more is because I watch on MLB.TV, and my entire screen is taken up by the game. If something good happens, I’m more likely to watch that over posting about it.
And that’s a solid outing from CC, if that’s it for him. Gotta get to their pen now.
Ok, it’s winning time. Let’s go offense…get the big man off the hook!
they just talked about CC having his own unique look because of his baggy uni. then said he is a 260-something hitter with 3 dingers. they’re fascinated by him.
How do you know that if Tex didn’t break his bat that the ball wouldn’t have been hit 450 feet?
He is killing the ball lately.
CC is at 98 pitches. He’ll come out for the 8th inning, right? I can’t imagine there’s any relievers Girardi would rather have face Victorino, Ibanez, and Howard.
The new stadium speakers make her sound so crisp. The only stadium she sounded like she was singing under water.
Dave, I’ve seen bats break for HR’s. Just haven’t seen one shatter like that.
Lending more credence to the Pat M theory on the balls being tighter this year.
Donnie, I agree with you 100%. People on here need to remember that fans have the right to vent just as much as they have the right to “waving pom poms.”
Come on Yankees lets do it!
man. it turns out watching tim redding pitch for the mets is every bit as nerve-wracking as watching him pitch for the yanks.
Rachel, I disagree. There have been a number of fly balls that have not gone out today, and at yesterday’s game that I was at.
How many HRs would you like to be hit? What is the correct number? And how does that relate to the increase in dingers throughout the game?
Dave, I’ve seen bats break for HR’s. Just haven’t seen one shatter like that.
Lending more credence to the Pat M theory on the balls being tighter this year.”
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I wouldn’t doubt that. I just don’t want to come to a conclusion, as many are, that because there was a broken bat HR that it is evidence of “wind tunnels”.
I have noticed that Damon breaks about 4 bats a game.
When are they going to regulate the bats players are using? It’s getting ridiculous (and dangerous).
Will they wait until somebody is seriously hurt???
Until Gardner hits a no doubter, I will not be convinced that this HR is a bandbox
As far as I’m concerned, it is the same as the old stadium. Neutral, but slightly favors lefties.
About time they start using aluminum bats in MLB
This breaking of bats is going to get someone hurt.
“About time they start using aluminum bats in MLB
This breaking of bats is going to get someone hurt.”
Tell that to all the pitchers and third baseman that will get hurt if these guys use aluminum!
Replay shows Tex hit it on the sweetpot. The bat had to have had a crack in it already. But, it is still amazing that it went out with a previously cracked bat like that.
nice ab for gardy…thats 3 good abs 3x 3-2 counts
Ironhorse, people certainly have the right to post anything they want from the brightest to the darkest posts. I can appreciate people wanting or needing to vent but what I can’t appreciate is totally ridiculous or over-the-top nutcake posting. I think that’s what ends up getting most of us who comment on it.
There are all kinds of posters and fans; this forum is apparently a microcosm of life. I’m sure that there are mental institutions that house baseball fans.
When the majority of people on a forum that has a wide cross-section of fans think that someone is being absurd with the whining, there is at least a little chance that the person is being absurd with the whining.
Baseball players are men, not machines. Negative people need to bear that in mind.
JMO
Gardner should run so there is not a usual Jeter DP…
“As far as I’m concerned, it is the same as the old stadium. Neutral, but slightly favors lefties.”
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Even if it’s not the exact same, it’s close enough that the rate of HR shouldn’t go up this dramatically solely due to the stadium dimensions.
If HR are up, find another cause.
It’s not the dimensions of the stadium and anybody who would criticize the Yankees for the increase, as if they could have predicted more HR when it was designed and built, is a fool.
Trisha, those are valid points. But just keep in mind that it is not fair to discredit those wanting to vent. Perhaps they feel the same way about those “waving pom-poms.”
Gardner with a semi-clutch late inning hit for the second day in a row.
so is Durbin going to throw to 1st all day
Molina is the best snap throw in the game.
gardner is now useless…
gardner is now useless…
jeters just gonna stand there and take every pitch down the middle
he looked safe, but what a throw.
Well it was the right move. But he didn’t get a good jump at all.
Wow. Mets putting on a clinic. 5-3, 2 on base, nobody out.
wow great throw
Jeter has given him every chance to run. And it has put him the hole now…
hey, i don’t know if it has been mentioned, but borden and co. have done a fine job filling in for pete over the last week. nice work, sam.
“People on here need to remember that fans have the right to vent just as much as they have the right to “waving pom poms.” ”
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venting can be done without the perpetual “Yanks will lose. I don’t know why I even watch the games. They will lose them all” posts.
considering the Yanks have more come from behind wins than anyone in baseball, you’d think there would be a little more faith in here.
Ruiz is just owning the Yanks
Swung at ball 4
Speaking of bandboxes, according to the measurements I got using the google earth ruler, Fenway is:
LF line-305
Deepest part of green monster-363
Dead center-380, but it says 420 on the wall
Deepest part of bullpen corner-407
RC-370
Pesky pole-279, but it says 302 on the wall.
“Jeter has given him every chance to run. And it has put him the hole now…”
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I didn’t like Jete taking that pitch. It was a very hittable fastball right down the middle.
I won’t argue with that Boston Dave.
Btw – since when did Carlos Ruiz turn into an all-star?
pat m-
thanks for pointing out the sam questions to eiland,. i’m having a busy day here on cape cod and didn’t see it.
i sent sam and pete an email asking them to ask about the release point. that is cool that the discussion on the blog prompted sam to ask the question to eiland. i have never doubted that on an important issue that a blog disussion couldn’t filter back to the yankees .
so eiland basically said that the high release point is an accidental by product of wang being late with his arm or early with his lower half. ok.
so we’ve got something. eiland is not saying he wants the release point up that high. that’s good.
the problem is that eiland makes no mention of shortening the stride. that’s the next question i’m going to push to sam or pete to ask. neil allen said that he shortened wang’s stride as the major adjustment he made to wang when he taught him the sinker.
is it possible eiland doesn’t know this was the secret move that made it all come together. wang called neil for a long time after being taught at triple a and allen told me that he almost always told wang to shorten his stride in those phone calls
allen also said that wang would likely always tend to lengthen his stride without realizing it because it is his natural stride. the problem is that the long stride doesn’t work with the sinker.
so i see nothing about a short stride mentioned by eiland.
if wang is taking a long stride, he would likely open up his hips and lower half sooner to get out there to his landing spot . if eiland would have wang shorten his stride it would accomplish slower down his lower half and getting his upper body in sync.
this brings up the question if wang is healthy enough to take a shorter stride and still get velocity. if he’s not 100 % healthy he’s going to stride longer trying to get velocity.
the fact wang called allen repeatedly after bad outings and he was repeatedly told the same thing about the shorter stride to get the sinker working shows that wang isn’t that good at analyzing himself .
shortening the stride is the new crusade
“considering the Yanks have more come from behind wins than anyone in baseball”
i think they said yanks have 17, phils have 15
“Pesky pole-279, but it says 302 on the wall.”
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Gammons can put the Pesky Pole in his pipe and smoke it.
jeter swung at ball four. tough to criticize this team but i’d like to go back and count the times “x swung at ball four” has been posted on this blog this season. one thing that separates this team from last year’s, they’re not giving at-bats away the way they were.
“i think they said yanks have 17, phils have 15″
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and it’s good reason that neither team should ever quit because they’re down by a few runs at any point in the game.
Question.. If Gardner rarely gets on base, and when he does he can’t steal, what good is he?
Jeter has to swing on that steal attempt to keep ruiz behind the plate
Well I told you guys a little respect to this Philly team, they aren’t paper champs.
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that is cool that the discussion on the blog prompted sam to ask the question to eiland. i have never doubted that on an important issue that a blog disussion couldn’t filter back to the yankees .”
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randy, I have to give you credit for that (as well as Sam). I was also really hoping the question would be asked.
i don’t know that 5-3 is necessarily “putting on a clinic,” especially when it looks like they’re going to strand those two runners who were on base with nobody out, but it’s nice to see the mets coming to play against the red sox. boston usually steamrolls interleague competition.
How did we even get started talking about the completely negative posters? I don’t think there’s been one in here today.
I still think there’s a very good chance we win today. I never said they were going to lose. I just happened to post when “bad” things happen.
phils announcers: madson up in the pen
If the Yanks actually had a bullpen then CC should be out of the game. He has left too many pitches over the plate the last 2 innings. But no bullpen so he is still out there.
Randy – I would odoubt that Eiland would go into every specific of the fix they are trying to implement.
Most important (for you and for the FX) is that they are aware of the issue and are working on it.
Again, I would tend to give the Yankees the benefit of the doubt.
Do we have another walk off in the cards for today?
veras as well
“Trisha, those are valid points. But just keep in mind that it is not fair to discredit those wanting to vent. Perhaps they feel the same way about those “waving pom-poms.””
Ironhorse, absolutely valid point in return.
Moderation then becomes the key, and it isn’t real moderate to whine about every pitch thrown or every move made, or every AB – nor is it real moderate to whine and complain when your team has been kicking butt like crazy and has just come over a 9-game winning streak and is playing without it’s first and second string catcher.
As one of my sisters always used to say to my dad when he would “complain” when we did something nice for him (he didn’t want us spending our money on him – he was a pretty simple guy), “A simple thank you would be sufficient.”
How about appreciating the positive and not always emphasizing every little pebble?
“Question.. If Gardner rarely gets on base, and when he does he can’t steal, what good is he?”
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If Juggy rarely ever makes a post, and when he does he doesn’t make any sense….
I’m not saying a 75% SB success rate is good enough for BG, but it’s hardly “he can’t steal”
“Question.. If Gardner rarely gets on base, and when he does he can’t steal, what good is he?”
None at all. I’m really not impressed by him one bit. He is a 1-tool player. But, as I’ve said a few times now, with the injuries and Swisher needing a day off there really aren’t any other options. Starting tomorrow, Gardner should not start another game.
Just not our day.
Oh well. 8-2 homestand ain’t bad.
Oh that’s bullsssssssssss…..
thats some serious luck right there
God that’s horrible check swing base hit
We’re not going to rally 2 days in a row against a good team guys.
Maybe this team should start playing from the 1st inning rather than waiting until the 7th inning.
“Oh well. 8-2 homestand ain’t bad.”
It really isn’t, sorry Met fans, we failed
“Just not our day.
Oh well. 8-2 homestand ain’t bad.”
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Guess you should stop watching.
See ya later. You’ll be missed.
Perfectly said, Trisha. I think you have the correct approach there.
One more out, CC!
You’re right, “putting on a clinic” was an overstatement. I always get excited when the Red Sox are losing!
Donnie you are right. This has been a really good thread today in terms of “unity of purpose”. People have been pretty positive it seems to me.
Way too many bad plays in this game.. Gardner dives for a ball in CF that he never should of. Gets a bad jump and gets thrown out at 2nd. Jeter takes a pitch right down the middle with Gardner running and then swings at a low pitch. Damon getting thrown out at the plate. You can’t fault CC but that pitch to Ibanez earlier in the game was definitely a mistake.
Howard has 2 infield hits and a stolen base in today’s game…
I know it’s a little early for Austin Jackson, but he is probably better than Gardner right now at this point.. I mean Melky came up without much of a name and look where he is?
haha i just remembered that they showed the phils giving mayberry the silent treatment after his HR yesterday (j-roll made them do it). he came back to the dugout all smiles and they all ignored him, but then victorino came in and they mobbed him. then they went to mayberry. it was pretty funny stuff haha.
Big man Howard on the back end of a double steal?!!! That stinks Cervelli just needed a decent throw to 2nd on that one.
Rachel,
You’re 100% right. Hopefully the Yankees can somehow, some way, find a way to win a game in which they didn’t play absolutely perfectly.
waaaaaa!!!
That was a perfect hit and run pitch for Jeter with Gardner swinging. Bad jump by Gradner
Ahhh, must be time for a “bring them (insert random minor leaguer) up” post right about now.
Yeah CC!!!!!!!!!!!
nice view of some Marines in uniform sitting behind the phils dugout in the expensive seats.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
God bless CC!!!!!
Fatcessa won’t like that.
Now score some runs.
Oh no! CC fist pumped!
Think of the children! Think of the bad influence that is on Joba!
oh no. a fistpump.
CC does the fist pump in a game he’s losing. Think we’ll hear about that on ESPN for the next week?
GREAT job by CC there.
This is where we gotta win it. Damon, Tex, and Alex coming up.
“Big man Howard on the back end of a double steal?!!! That stinks Cervelli just needed a decent throw to 2nd on that one.”
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I agree with you there.
It happens to all teams all the time though. Not sure why they never take the easier out at 2nd.
Schedule is a lot tougher now
Texas and Cleveland on the road
Then come home for Tampa, go to Boston, then play the Mets
We have to keep up. The win streak got us over the hump, but we can’t let our guard down now. We did that last year and went into slides after win streaks. We need to stay focused.
fantastic game for CC…3 runs in 8 innings ill sign up for everytime…he is a competitor…hopefully the offense steps up this inning…they have seen madson twice already will no results..
Uh oh, a fist pump by CC.
That will get Diet Coke going tomorrow.
“Francesa won’t like that”
It only counts when Joba does it.
“I mean Melky came up without much of a name and look where he is?”
where is he? a league-average outfielder at best who, to his credit, has done some work and propelled himself to such status after being pretty awful last season? it’s great that he’s put together some clutch hits this season, and he’s having good at-bats but let’s not get back to crowning the guy the second coming of mantle just yet. let’s not forget people were hailing him as a “five-tool player” a couple of years ago and those same people were calling for his head last year. even-keel goes both ways. the kid has put in some decent work but i’d move him for the right relief pitcher in a heartbeat.
another solid outing from CC. win or lose this game, he has done his job.
Let’s not do the walkoff thing today, let’s get a couple in the 8th and let Mo slam the door in the 9th so CC can get a well deserved W.
great strike out by CC. cmon boys, lets get some runs before its all over and win this thing!!
CC is certified
“Just not our day.
Oh well. 8-2 homestand ain’t bad.”
What the flip is up with that? Have you watched any Yankee games lately????
Capital L!
“do you think there was a conscious decision to change his arm slot?”
boston dave-
sam asked eiland about the arm slot and he describes the discussion his 1:11 update . eiland says it’s a by product of having his arm lag his lower half. so the inference is that eiland is not pushing the high arm slot.
i’ve been taking the position that the yankees were pushing it to bring the issue to a head. eiland says no, so that’s good.
now the problem is doing the things neil allen taught him in the first place. i haven’t heard anything that makes me think eiland is encouraging what allen taught him.
wang has to shorten his stride.
this is an absolute.
it has to be done.
the ball doesn’t sink when he doesn’t shorten the stride.
“I know it’s a little early for Austin Jackson, but he is probably better than Gardner right now at this point.. I mean Melky came up without much of a name and look where he is?”
Austin is not ready.
is there really a rain delay in the bottom of the 5th of the Sox game in which Boston is losing?
it better be pouring or that is bs.
no madson? eyre for damon then switch?
2 innings to score 2 runs
A tired Ryan Madson on the mound today… he worked the last 2 days, then we get Lidge.
Have good ABs.
Uh oh! C.C. just did the no no fist pump. Now someone will be auditioning to do it running around the bases. Man i hope Huff didnt catch that.
Apparently Youkilis hit a ball that was under review and called foul.
The Red Sox must hate instant replay
randy,
i saw that – that’s what i was saying. glad you asked and glad sam asked eiland about it.
it was interesting to see a legitimate blog topic reach it’s way to eiland.
I don’t think Manual will bring in Lidge again after yesterday
Maybe Madsen for the 9th and an out or 2 in the 8th as well.
IDK why but I feel like we might fall just today, but 8-2 in a homestand is still good.
I don’t know if that’s the real SJ.
Just sayin
“Apparently Youkilis hit a ball that was under review and called foul.
The Red Sox must hate instant replay”
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ahhh. phew.
as long as the umps get it right. as much as i hate the Sox, the umps need to get the calls right more than anything else.
c’mon Johnny..
IDK why but I feel like we might fall just *short* today, but 8-2 in a homestand is still good.
Now they weren’t playing “from the first inning on”?
Watch much baseball? There has been no lack of effort today.
It’s a good, close game by two good teams.
I really thought we would win this game easy, but now we need more late inning magic.
Of course it’s not over, but it’s looking more and more that way.
Kasey I never crowned Melky the next “Mantle”, but he did come up early without any hype and has worked hard to get where he is.. Guess it’s called maturing. But if you have a plus too guy in Jackson who is tearing it up at Scranton and Gardner, basically a 1 dimensional player then who would you rather see get some experience? If Jackson keeps getting better then he will probably get called up in Sept. anyways.. So why not give up some big game experience say in July?? Gardner to me is a bench player. Too bad Swish stinks enough that you have to use him more often.
No rain delay BD. Looks pretty sunny there right now.
It’s about time for a rally!!!!!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
Why would they turn Tex around to bat leftie? His power numbers against lefties are much better than against righties. I mean, his average against them is only .244, but he’s faced more righties. This seems odd to me.
Boston Dave, just because I don’t post much it doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to post. Sorry if I’m not one of the Celeb bloggers of the day, but at least I have a clue. Let me supply you with a clue.
Gardner has about 22 hits & 9 walks, 4 doubles, 2 tripples, 2 homers, which means he has had about 27 chances to steal. Out of these 27 opportunities he has made 8 attempts and been successful in 6 of them. Now, if the only thing he brings is speed and about 65% of the time he doesn’t even try to steal and the other 25% of the time he gets caught, then what good is he?
Do you UNDERSTAND now or do I need to drink 10 more beers and act like an ignorant boston fan and add a bunch of nonsense curse words for you to comprehend my point of view? Or maybe I need to change my name to SJ44 so I have the right to post a point of view..
You hav reinforced my believe that boston fans are of a certain breed.
Rather, his power number BATTING lefty are better than batting righty.
Oh. The overshift. I guess that’d do it.
Can Alex be clutch again?
Is this the first year teams are shifting for Tex?
Wow, Blue Jays offense has been brutal the last two days. In the top of the ninth yesterday they were down by 1 run, and Millar struck out with the bases loaded and 1 out.
Today they had the bases loaded 1 out in the top of the 7th inning of a tie game and Lind struck out.
If the Phillies win this game their defense won it for them.
“I really thought we would win this game easy, but now we need more late inning magic.”
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Easy? The Phillies had the reigning NLCS and World Series MVP on the mound along with a healthy offense that replaced Pat Burrell with perhaps the hottest hitter in baseball in Raul Ibanez (apologies to Joe Mauer who is tearing the cover off the ball and probably the best hitter in game right now).
Brandon, it is more than okay for you to think we’ll fall short today. (I don’t see a problem with people having feelings about things, unless of course you’re someone who always feels we’ll feel short, which you’re not.)
If we fall short today that too is more than okay!
Damn
“Boston Dave, just because I don’t post much it doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to post”
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I’m sorry. Let me know when I said you don’t have the right to post, and I’ll send you instructions on how to remove your head out of your ass.
that was a lame half inning for the middle of the order.
Its gonna have to be via walk off.
Yankees are best in the 9th inning so I smell a walkoff…hopefully.
well, three hard hit balls but three outs
Yeh I feel we’ll fall just short today.
We can’t walkoff all the time, that’s humanly impossible.
We can’t expect to win every game at home in the bottom of the ninth but you never know. So keep it to 3-2 and GO GET THEM BOYS!!!
You’re not going to get lucky every game in the late innings.
Downside to satellite television. It is now pouring here and I have no signal. Time for mlb.com!
Boston Dave, why so nasty?
Please just get to the bottom of the 9th only down one run! And give me Melky up with runners on base, please!
Time for another walkoff.
I have a feeling Matsui will redeem himself in the 9th.
Robbie, Matsui, Melky in the 9th?
Perhaps they pinchhit Swisher for Matsui. I don’t like his bat there at all.
We popped the ball up too much for my taste today. Phillie’s pitchers had us off balance all day.
Who the heck is pitching the ninth inning? Veras?
How big is that Gardner fielding dive blunder now ?
A healthy Posada does so much for this lineup
Oh, anotherwords you have no comeback with my “make no sense” spanking I just gave you, eh Boston Dave? That’s right, bend over and take it like a man..
Veras.
Who needs a drink?
1 away!
a busted bat and a long fly ball……
Now Braves have the bases loaded and 1 out in the 8th inning, trying to break up the tie.
I’d PH Swisher for Matsui the way he’s swinging of late.
“You hav reinforced my believe that boston fans are of a certain breed.”
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despite being hated and ridiculed my entire life for it, I’m as diehard a Yankee fan as it gets.
you sir, are one ignorant (and seemingly simple minded) individual
Taking that into consideration, I guess I can see why you’d see the “Boston” in front of my screen name (despite the fact I haven’t resided there in a while and am currently far away from Boston) and suggest that I am a “boston fan” that posts positive things about the Yankees in a Yankees blog.
Any further thoughts on YS and home runs, please explain Jason Bartlett just hitting his 7th homer today. He had 11 in 4 years and 1700 at bats before this season. No reason to leave his little buddy, Ben Zobrist out of this discussion. 8 in 112 at bats. He had 15 in 530 at bats prior.
Veras in a close game is always a heart attack waiting to happen.
Veras looking much more compact in his delivery.
Yeah I’m not feeling a walk off here.
I wonder if that is the 2nd time this season that Veras has thrown a 1st pitch strike and gotten an out? I know 1 time was against the Gomez with the bases loaded. Maybe he can actually pitch and not give up a run this inning. Maybe…
“Oh, anotherwords you have no comeback with my “make no sense” spanking I just gave you, eh Boston Dave? ”
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here’s a comeback for you. It’s “in other words” you pea-brain.
You are reinforcing my belief that this country is full of lemmings and uneducated idiots.
Boston up 6-5 now
I just realized OPPC also stands for “Official Pom Pom Club”.
Romine: 3 for 5 2 doubles 1 hr 5 rbis
Montero: 2 for 4 2 doubles 3 rbis
nice! instrumental in an 11-7 win
Hope Hughes and Joba can do well in Texas and AJ rebounds
You don’t want a slide to follow this 9 game win streak.
Yep, I agree – GB7. Something is in the air, and its not the wind currents at YS.
2 away for Veras!
Seiously, we’d rather see Swisher hit than Matsui? Have we seen Swisher swing the last 2+ weeks? Hopefully Hideki can run into one.
I’ve been out all day – who’s up in the bottom half.
“it was interesting to see a legitimate blog topic reach it’s way to eiland.”
boston dave-
if things are at a high level there’s no reason why pete or sam wouldn’t ask questions brought up on the blog. i agree it’s cool though.
i’m so sure that i know what’s wrong with wang that i’m not going to let up. i really don’t think eiland knows what neil allen did to convert wang to a sinkerball pitcher.
it’s not that i could figure this out if i hadn’t been told by neil allen what he did.
in effect, i was given the secret recipe, and i’m repeating it here.
i keep hearing how eiland is preparing the dish, but he’s not going by the secret recipe.
Yeh I don’t see Lidge coughing it up 2 days in a row.
How about a shout out to Veras?
How about a shout out to the Yankees who stayed with him when most people here were ready to ride him off on a rail?
Just pointing out that patience is a virtue and bowing to the experts isn’t a sin.
At least Cano and Melky are up in the ninth inning. Both got hits off Lidge yesterday.
The old Veras is resurfacing…
I would have rather seen a solo home run…
Veras is maddening.
I just realized OPPC also stands for “Official Pom Pom Club”.
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Yes, which will cause more satisfying annoyance. It could also stand for “Positive Posse”
veras cant make it easy on himself lol…come on get rollins!
Veras gets 2 some what easy outs, then a 4 pitch walk. He REALLY has no idea where the ball is going. I guess mechanics all over the place don’t help.
aaand..there’s a walk.
This is why Veras is so maddening. He looked great against the first two batters, and then got lazy and walked Ruiz on four straight pitches. I just don’t get this guy. I don’t know what it’s going to take to get him to harness his stuff.
“Seiously, we’d rather see Swisher hit than Matsui? Have we seen Swisher swing the last 2+ weeks? Hopefully Hideki can run into one.”
Swisher might walk, Matsui chases everything and I mean EVERYYYYTHING right now.
Oh there’s the Jose we know, walk machine now wait for it.
How about that I hope I didn’t speak too soon on this particular day…
“How about a shout out to Veras?”
I’m tempted for those shouts to be R-rated obscenities…
And yet you still haven’t picked apart the logic that you mentioned made no sense. I’m sorry if I confused you for a boston fan, but I don’t read your blog entries and follow your blog career to know you’re a Yankee fan. HOW this has ANY relevance to the point that you said my comment made no sense and then my verbally spanking you is beyond me..
Again, my points still stand.. If the only thing Gardner brings is speed and he can’t steal, what good is he. You chose to argue that I made no sense, so debate it and stop running away from your own comment like a little coward that insults someone and runs and hides behind someone else.
Red Sox take a 6-5 lead but at least the Jays are losing.
“i’m so sure that i know what’s wrong with wang that i’m not going to let up. i really don’t think eiland knows what neil allen did to convert wang to a sinkerball pitcher.”
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… and for that reason I wish you (or Pete as a proxy) could get a 1:1 with Eiland. It’s time to take this blog down to a lowel level. I, for one, would be interested in breaking it down a bit.
“I’d PH Swisher for Matsui the way he’s swinging of late.”
I would also at least Swisher takes pitches. But Girardi would never do it. I would highly doubt they are getting to Lidge 2 days in a row.
uh-oh – 4 straight pitches…
I’d like to teach the world to sing… in perfect harmony…
http://www.countrygoldusa.com/.....ing_MU.asp
Coke anyone?
jose veras has no idea where his pitches are going. none. i have no idea why he’s still facing major league hitters. oh, wait, it’s because he’s the best available option today. wonderful.
VERAS!!!
Trisha- You would still trust Veras in a huge game? I mean the guy was pretty solid last year and he still blew up a few times in big spots. With his herky jerky delivery, he will always be prone to wildness and will never be a big game pitcher. You’re whole keeping with him thing is kind of ridiculous when real Yankee fans, while supportive of him, realize that he cannot be trusted and Melancon and Roberton both have so much more upside. I love the positive attitude but come on and get real.
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
Nasty, nasty pitch from Veras.
YEE-HAH!!!!!
Cano – Cabrera – Matsui…
odds? Anyone?
That’s more like it.
Honestly, Veras’ best outing of the season. Between getting the win yesterday, and that inning, maybe he’s finally starting to “get it”.
“You are reinforcing my belief that this country is full of lemmings and uneducated idiots.”
there’s always a danger in a cross country road trip
Veras’ mechanics can vary from pitch to pitch, batter to batter, but when he gets it right, he throws high quality stuff.
We take the game in the 9th!
Cano, Cabrera and the corpse of Hideki Matsui due up.
Veras has crap control, but that’s some pretty nasty stuff. If he ever gets it right, he’d be a massive asset to the pen.
Atlanta up 6-2 in the 7th
We’re not going to walkoff every chance we get OPPC.. lets just be happy w/ an 8-2 homestand. Damn good if you ask me.
Lidge may be struggling, but c’mon… he isin’t going to blow it 2 days in a row.
Do the yankees have it in them
, ill take a tie and extra innings 
Please put together a good AB, Cano.
Veras has nasty stuff when he can find the plate. Too bad finding the plate consistenly is very hard for him. But to be fair he has been ok his last 3 outings or so. So hopefully he can work on finding the plate, that would help.
That Cervelli, what a bandit. Called Veras for two Curve Balls in a row. Now that’s Chutzpah.
what are the chances Lidge has two meltdowns in a row?
“And yet you still haven’t picked apart the logic that you mentioned made no sense.”
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You said he cannot steal. As I posted already, he is stealing at a 75% success rate.
As I posted already, that isn’t good enough for Brett but it’s hardly bad enough to justify your overreaction and “he can’t steal” implication.
I never once suggested or argued that he is a great player. I didn’t suggest he is getting a bad rap. I said that you were wrong to say “he can’t steal”.
You do realize that players who steal more are also going to get caught more, right? In this case it took a perfect throw to do it.
Get em Yanks! Get em!!
don’t look now but Veras has been solid lately
“Veras has crap control, but that’s some pretty nasty stuff. If he ever gets it right, he’d be a massive asset to the pen.”
The second part is why the Yankees have stuck with him. And I’d say it looks like he’s getting it righter and righter!
“what are the chances Lidge has two meltdowns in a row?”
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against the Comeback Kids? I’d say they’re pretty good
Lidge will get it done.
Micheal KAy jinxing us, trust me be happy 8-2
Single!!!
I have been mostly listening to the telecast in the background today. I have to say, at times it’s a bit disconcerting not being able to necessarily know by the crowd noise whether it was good for the Yankees or not.
But at least it seems like our Yankees fans have been as loud as the visiting bunch.
Okay. Fasten your seat belts, kids.
Cano leads if off
yea cano!!!!…lets go!!!
Jerry, it’s Frank Costanza. Mr. Steinbrenner’s here, George is dead. Call me back.
Veras-good job. My blood pressure still rises when you come into a game, but good job here
Put those rally caps on people! Let’s win this damn game..somehow
DONCHA KNOW!
Kay continuing to jinx this is so not happening.
That is a start. But too bad they don’t have Gardner on the bench to run. That is the only thing he is good for. Please no DP’s. PLEASE!!
Cervelli and Gardner have NO shot to hit Lidge. Matsui probably doesn’t have the bat speed to catch up to his stuf either.
I don’t think they have even seen a slider like that before. If you’re Lidge, that’s who you want to face.
C’mon Here we go!
The walk off King is batting
good move by girardi
This is so intense!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!!!!
Lets go Melk!
gardner got caught stealing. it happens. move on, please.
No jinx. This WILL HAPPEN.
AGAIN!
Would you bunt? Matsui will swing at EVERYTHING in the dirt.
“DONCHA KNOW!”
I love it!
People saying an 8-2 home stand already are RETARDED.. god people never learn
Let’s go Melkman.
Yes pena!!!
yea pena!!!!
Ramiro SB!
ballsy call there! I dig it.
S.A. – I should have been a closer! I have ice water in my veins (until the postseason; then I start to have a case of nerves.)
I don’t get at all nervous despite who comes into the game.
That’s a blessing I would say.
Now what should Melky do?
this so not gonna happen
here we go
I love this Pena kid..lol Too bad I don’t have any good feeling in Matsui or Cervelli getting a hit..
No.. The fact that he gets caught 25% of the time isn’t the issue. It’s the fact that close to 70% of the time he doesn’t even make an attempt to steal and in the 30% that he DOES try to steal, he gets caught 25% of the time.
His only strength is a base stealer and he fails at that roughly 80% of the time he gets on the bases either through non effort or caught stealing.
Either way, I would say my comment hardly “Made no sense” as you claimed. Perhaps if I changed my name to CB my comment would have made it through without your insult?
I’m not even watching and I feel Lidge-tastic.
I don’t like this bunt move…
Melky what in the world are you doing?!! You cant bunt that pitch..
Umm not a good attempt.
what?
Lidge is shaking off too many times.
THIS PUNK IS TOAST!
brandon.. stop seriously
Tie GAME!!!
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!
MELKY!!!!
OMG ! I LOVE YA MELKY ! AND EL NINO !
WOW!
He NEEVER RUNS OUT OF MILK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The MILKMAN DELIVERS!!!!
Love this game!
CLUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE MILK MAN DELIVERSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY HANDS ARE BURNING RED FROM CLAPPING SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
LECHE!!!!
I’m so happy Lidge s*cks! HAHA!
hahahahaha YES
can i be in the oppc!!!
Melky is MONEY
Dont steal. Dont do it.
I love this team!!!
unreal. this team doesn’t quit. win or lose this one, they’ve shown us a lot on this homestand. lord knows i’m the first to criticize this team but they’ve earned a little leeway, folks. they’re not giving up.
Brad Lidge, my new favorite player.
TUSCAN WHOLE MELK!
“brandon.. stop seriously”
I just can’t
I sh*t on Melky, all off-season.
and would like to have my crow, curried
Go Melky!!! Woohoo whoohoo why bunt when you have the Melky…Too bad the top of the lineup isnt up now…I hate to say it but Matsui should bunt. He is good for a DP here..or a strike out on the slider..
Bunt please.
The Pinch Swisher on deck.
I am sitting here in tears I am so psyched!!!!!!
I know I stick with them all, but DA MELK has been my pet since he came up.
*I AM SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Brandon, if you have been serious about the Yankees losing, I am really disappointed in you. If you ahve been doing your own reverse jinx, then fine.
Come on Matsui.
Are you kidding me.. again?!! Melky is unbelievable right now with this clutch hitting! You talk about being focused when the game is on the line.. Don’t know how long he can keep this up but he will keep his spot in the lineup for awhile now.
Matsui is useless. Here comes the slider..
Melky = a god
Matsui horrible
SWISHA YOURE LONG OVERDUE!!
You knew Matsui would do that.
damn matsui is really in a bad way
Damn it. The corpse of Hideki couldn’t come through.
Matsui is horrible right now. He’s not even having remotely good AB’s like Teixeira was through his slump.
Why wasn’t Swish batting for Matsui he is the one that needs help hitting!
Good lord. Hideki Matsui wins the award for “Worst AB of the Afternoon”. That was terrible.
Matsui STINKS !!!!!
there is no way in hell Wang should throw a single pitch in this game.
Melk Money!
Bad move by Girardi to bat Matsui in this spot.. Should’ve been a sacrifice there!!
Anyone could of called that at bat…Just terrible. Everyone in the ballpark knew the slider was coming and it was soo far off the plate.
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
I think Lidge has been doing a wonderful job this season.
c’mon Swishy
repeat: matsui is awful. awful.
Why is Wang warming up?
Time to trade Matsui to the NL and open up a spot for Miranda at DH
Melky!!!
Melky steals 2nd!
C’mon Swish, let’s get Melk home and go home.
I was praying for a K when he Hideki got to two strikes – ground ball DP was the only other scenario.
Girardi can’t ask Matsui to bunt
The Japanese media will KILL him if he does.
wang?! no. no. no. no. no. no.
Unless something dramatic happens, the Jays won’t occupy first solo any more. 9-2 Atlanta in the 9th.
Why isnt Mo warming up?!!! Swish’s pitch to hit was the 1st one. Fastball right over the plate then swings at garbage. He takes too many 1st pitch strikes.
Wang? Where the hell is MO?
It’s all up to Gardner now.
How about a suicide squeeze here?
BG lets go lets go!
Dammit we’re going tied into the 10th
And it comes down…to Brett Gardner.
Wild pitch or bunt single, either way works for me
Time to trade Matsui to the NL and open up a spot for Miranda at DH
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Calm down Matsui may not be hitting right now but never count him out
Gardner has NO shot to hit Lidge
I’m sorry but Micheal Kay is jinxing the crap out of this
cmon…we want Pie!!!
get
him
home
Brett
Wang in the 10th? Isin’t he the long man?
Why isn’t Mo warming up??? I dont get it..Wang is batting practice..
If the game goes to 15 innings, I still wouldn’t pitch Wang.
Lets go GGBG!!!
all we need is a hit!
Wang = Atleast 3 runs for the Phillies
gardner do it now!!!
Gardner has to swing fastball. He only hit the slider…
perfect pitch to squeeze on 2-1
Dammit
Tie game though!
Going to extras.
Damn you Micheal Kay
“Calm down Matsui may not be hitting right now but never count him out”
So you’re saying that you would rather hope Matsui comes out of the slump when reality says he is washed up and is prone to more slumps than actual hitting streaks.. Sorry to say, but Matsui just isn’t the same player we had in 03!
Brandon, please stop posting. You’re the biggest wet blanket in the Yankee universe.
alright alright. no worries.
so happy for leche!
Down to extra innings…
Lets go!
Bonus baseball. At least the Phillies pen is also spent
Be thankful we tied the score and made it to extras. These are your gritty NY Yankees.
Try to sit back and enjoy the wonderful ride they have taken us on.
Ill take it. But Swish should of pinch hit for Matsui, he is lost right now!
Well at least the top of the order is up next inning.. Hope to hold the Phils here.
Terrible ABs by Swisher and Matsui
And now we lose Cano’s bat in extras.
What was Gardner looking for? The 2-1 pitch was right there..You cant take fastball after fastball like Swish and Gardner did because then you get the slider. The at bat that killed the inning was the expected one by Matsui.
I was high on him at the beginning of the season, but at this point, I do not much care for Brett Gardner.
I’d have let Cervelli hit, and used Swisher to hit for Gardner. Why would you bench at guy hitting .300-ish for a guy who couldn’t buy a hit?
We’ve got them right where we want them.
By the way, if you haven’t read the article on Jim Leyritz yet (his side of the story, which is very, very compelling) you need to click on my name and check it out.
The game will be won or lost in this inning. Top/middle for both lineups.
GGBG = good god, brett gardner
followed by a cringe
“…But Swish should of pinch hit for Matsui…”
Girardi trusted Matsui more then Cervelli.
“Brandon, please stop posting. You’re the biggest wet blanket in the Yankee universe.”
Shut your face ! you don’t want to meet me under the Oneill banner !
Rachel,
the glass is half full.
the glass is half full.
Matsui can’t bunt so, you can’t bunt him.
They did everything right in that inning. They just had the wrong guys come up at the end of the order.
Everybody talks about the pitching but, this team is going to have to acquire an OF bat, who can also play the OF, at the deadline.
Matsui, Swisher and Gardner are below average hitters and defenders. When Nady comes back, you can platoon Nady and Matsui at DH. Still leaves you short in the OF because Nady won’t be able to play the OF with his bad elbow.
The OF, not the bullpen, is the spot that has to get addressed via trade when its time, IMO.
Another great comeback. Need Mo to hold the fort here and try to win it in the bottom half of the inning.
“Calm down Matsui may not be hitting right now but never count him out”
So you’re saying that you would rather hope Matsui comes out of the slump when reality says he is washed up and is prone to more slumps than actual hitting streaks.. Sorry to say, but Matsui just isn’t the same player we had in 03!
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Matsui is good for 2/3 big hits a month maybe you forgot the couple of games he won us this year. Without Matsui we have 3 less wins.
I cant believe people are whining about losing Cano’s bat in extras!!!
Are you watching the game???
Brandon forget Michael Kay. Concentrate on positive energy and good karma. We don’t need negative energy. Not a good thing to put negative energy out there hey?
I seem to remember a team that knows how to come back. A lot.
I’m psyched. And I’m proud to be a fan of this team no matter what.
There is no suicide squeeze with 2 outs but a bunt single wiould have been nice by Gardner. The phillies bullpen is spent as they already used 4 relievers today.
Win or lose this one, they just don’t give up. It’s up to the bullpen now.
Win or lose this one, they just don’t give up. It’s up to the bullpen now.
mo may just as easily give up a run as wang would but good lord is it reassuring that chien-ming isn’t out there.
Its raining as hard as it can rain in Queens hopefully it doesnt travel to the bronx
would Philly use Madson 3 days in a row in high pressure situations???
He’s their best reliever… so I hope not.
Great now you let Cash see a baseball field…He should of let Cervelli hit but Swisher hit for Matsui. There was no reason to pinh hit for Cervelli there. I don’t think anyone expected Matsui to touch the baseball.
boston dave-
i think you meant deeper level. i agree. pitching mechanics don’t have to be that complicated , and i think even the casual fan would enjoy the break down of what wang is doing.
basically there is a weight shift and a rotation of the lower and upper half in sequential steps that makes the arm and hand go very fast as a result.
the timing has to be precise and that’s what it sounds like eiland is working on with wang.
the neil allen formula for wang is very simple. grip the ball correctly, shorten the stride, and throw the ball. believe it or not that’s it.
the epiphany allen had was seeing the right natural arm slot in wang to throw the sinker.
it took only days for wang to pick up what allen showed him. he was instantly changed into a nasty sinkerballer.
why should it now be taking so long when it only took days in the first place?
the answer must be that eiland doesn’t have the secret formula.
if i had a meeting with him it’d be a short one.
it’s really not that complicated.
I would think that Aceves could pitch after Mo – 2 days not enough rest?
Rachel,
aliens have landed and determined solely from your posts that the Yankees are 11-32 and the worst team in baseball.
Red Sox have an 8-5 lead in the 7th. Don’t think we can count on the Mets to come through for us this time.
“Everybody talks about the pitching but, this team is going to have to acquire an OF bat, who can also play the OF, at the deadline.”
i’d say they’ll both need to be addressed but OF is definitely a “trouble spot” for the yanks.
Another ball that didn’t cut right over the plate to juice man.
Ibanez is very good. Need a DP right here
I simply can’t put in to words how much I hate Raul Ibanez.
I hate Ibanez
Howard is a bad match up for MO
Can anyone else not stand Ibanez right now?
So you keep a guy in the lineup for 2 big hits a month? Or does he only get 2 hits a month? Matsui looks liked the oldest player in baseball and when Posada comes back he will be on the bench more often. This is his last year and injuries have brought him down this level now.
Rachel- odd as it may seem to you Girardi can outthink and outmanage you 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. The Yankees are 1/2 game out of first and it had nothing to do with you. Try to enjoy this game.
rain delay in 20 minutes
“Shut your face ! you don’t want to meet me under the Oneill banner !”
lol.
I really don’t like Werth in this situation.
I am not perplexed by Ibanez this year.
Regarding Bartlett, yes, I am highly perplexed by his numbers this year.
Mos struggling. Battle MO!
randy – God bless you for having the ability to concentrate enough to write that kind of post in the middle of what’s going on!
how’s the weather in the Bronx, it is raining here in Queens?
Come on Mo!!! It seems his ball cuts too much or doesn’t cut at all..
Bear down, Mo.
thunder boys getting it done again
The first pitch to werth was belt high. This ump has been inconsistent all day IMO.
trisha-
what’s going on?
“boston dave-
i think you meant deeper level. i agree. pitching mechanics don’t have to be that complicated , and i think even the casual fan would enjoy the break down of what wang is doing.”
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I agree. There are enough fans in here that would love to break down pitching mechanics, even some of the more complicated stuff, and right now there is no better case than with Wang.
I know you’ll lead the charge on that front
Cash I swear make it good.
So you keep a guy in the lineup for 2 big hits a month? Or does he only get 2 hits a month? Matsui looks liked the oldest player in baseball and when Posada comes back he will be on the bench more often. This is his last year and injuries have brought him down this level now.
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Matsui doesn’t play every game what are you talking about, and when he gets his huge hits that he gets every year rather he is hurt or not hurt you will be the first one celebrating
why should it now be taking so long when it only took days in the first place?
the answer must be that -eiland doesn’t have the secret formula- Wang is coming back from a bad freak foot injury and neither the Yankees nor have have done an admirable job thus far with the rehab.
Fixed!
On my other forum we always refer to Mo as MOSES!!
HE WILL LEAD THE PEOPLE!!!!!
NO BLOOPS!
crosses fingers
mo!!!!!!!!!!
meanwhile Tampa is on a run of their own and Price is back tomorrow.
gotta keep an eye in the rear view mirror for those guys as well.
a strikeout will do
Mo shows Lidge how it’s done. Old age, recovering shoulder and all.
Kevin Cash actually made a good sequence adjustment ! he finally did some good !
way to go, Mo.
great job by mo..gotta get it done this inning..top of the inning will prevail!!!
Is there any way we can get it so Mariano can pitch forever, the guy is such a stud.
That last pitch by Mo was a thing of beauty. Had him fooled.
Top of the order coming up.
Kay is an idiot saying he just has that 1 pitch to throw. Mo throws so many variations as Flaherty said. I hate Kay.
randy – oh not much. How’s business?
The way that Werth just flung his bat in disgust was so gritty.
and gutty.
Mets have done MORE than we could have asked for
Yanks need to keep up their end
Alright top of the order…I wonder who the Phils will bring in to pitch.. They used all of there late inning guys alreay. Is Wang really pitching the 11th if it comes to that?! I hope not…
Epic week for Melky.
Nobody like our Mo.
Let’s win it here
Is there any way we can get it so Mariano can pitch forever, the guy is such a stud.
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If Mo adds a knucleball and a change he could pitch forever
“Matsui doesn’t play every game what are you talking about, and when he gets his huge hits that he gets every year rather he is hurt or not hurt you will be the first one celebrating”
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Matsui has a good enough track record that he should get some slack.
With the logic some are using, the Yanks should have also benched Tex rather than let him work out of a slump.
If Matsui is showing signs of injury, that’s different.
Slumps happen.
Jeter with a pie face.
Regardless of the outcome, this homestand has been a blast and its given the team an identity. That of the Comeback Kids. Even though they aren’t kids. lol
Its good to have that kind of identity. Let’s hope they have one more in them.
Who was the oldest player to play MLB
Paige ?
anyone know off the top of their heads?
I don’t know this pitcher. But he has good numbers..
We need to win the game right here. Who would pitch the 11th inning?
“I know you’ll lead the charge on that front ”
yup, i’m on a mission
1. matsui looks awful at the plate. he shouldn’t be in the lineup but their hand is forced right now. hopefully, more options means less matsui.
2. wang’s comeback has been slow because A) he was injured B) he’s stubborn and refuses to admit there’s a problem.
My fantasy team would like a Tex walkoff.
So would everyone here, but me especially.
I got a fever…. and the only prescription is MORE WALKOFFS!!!
“The way that Werth just flung his bat in disgust was so gritty.
and gutty.”
“Everybody talks about the pitching but, this team is going to have to acquire an OF bat, who can also play the OF, at the deadline”
SJ44:
I agree.
any particular candidates in mind ?
Tex game winning RBI double coming up
The injuries that Matsui so frequently has are the reasons for his slumps. He did have a million at bats in Japan. Remember he wasn’t a “rookie” when he came here.
Jeter!!!!!!!
Nice job Jeter.
Captain!
“With the logic some are using, the Yanks should have also benched Tex rather than let him work out of a slump.”
difference: matsui is 150 years old and has two non-working knees. he’s not going to magically get better. he may deliver a few hits here or there but he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt at this point. he’s as cooked as ortiz is.
Ok Johnny… ball in the gap and let’s go to Dallas
Yes, Jeter!
Let’s go Yankees! I hear thunder rumbling, so we need to wrap this game up right now!
Damon should Bunt??? Yes/no
trisha -
record breaking business day yesterday for memorial weekend.
you didn’t tell me what’s going on.
Is it weird that I set up like a catcher in the middle of my living room when Mo is pitching?
Thats weird, right?
Clay Quandrey?
Advantage: Yankees
I’m 100% sure that the Yankees win this. Yankees are best in extras.
Yeah, there is no way we can live with the Swisher/Gardner combo in the OF.
If Nady can’t play the field, it becomes problematic. We need to acquire a OF bat, preferably right handed.
Do you hit and run, or steal? I’d be patient with Damon up.. Still got some big bats behind him.
I’d like to see Jermaine Dye in RF. He’s very consistent.
Few interesting moves by Girardi.
First pinch running Pena for Cano. The speed differential can’t be that large. Cano just stole a base yesterday. And if the game remained tied (which it did) now you have Pena hitting 5th this inning instead of Cano.
Pinch hitting Swisher for Cervelli. Personally, I’d have been a lot happier seeing Cervelli in there. Girardi’s a smart guy. I can see it through the freaking TV. Swisher didn’t stand a chance that AB. Now we have Cash playing.
Look, Girardi on the whole is doing a great job. But the overmanaging will hurt him sometime. Hopefully not today, but sometime.
RS — that’s 5:00 thunder you hear!
tex bunt lol
Johnny Damon!
Is it weird that I set up like a catcher in the middle of my living room when Mo is pitching?
Thats weird, right?
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Holy ****. While Mo was pitching, I was pretending I was pitching and doing his exact motions. You are awesome, not weird.
Jeter and Damon do their jobs. Let’s go!!!
SJ, you’re right – it’s amazing that this team never quits. They have to be taken seriously right down to the last out – it’s wonderful to see. If they lose this game, you’ll hear a lot about “oh, lost 2 out of 3 and to a good team…….how good are the Yankees, really?” unfortunately…..
“matsui is 150 years old and has two non-working knees. he’s not going to magically get better.”
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he was hitting very well a week or so ago (what was his hitting streak at? )
If not for that, I’d agree.
Considering he showed he’s at least capable of hitting well, which Ortiz has not done, I’m willing to give him more time to work things out.
He’s a very good hitter and it’s worth finding out if there’s anything left in the tank.
If not, they can address it at the trade deadline.
C’mon Teix… another pop fly HR please
“Is it weird that I set up like a catcher in the middle of my living room when Mo is pitching?
Thats weird, right?”
not if they win. you need to do it every time then
Can it be happening again?? Come on Tex!! least get the guys over a spot.
a pie for tex?
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
Tex hasn’t had a walk-off yet. Let’s spread the wealth!
Ok, I did predict Tex would win it with a double…
but I’ll settle for a sac fly.
Sorry Randy. Yanks in extra innings and first place at stake. Nothing major.
couldnt bunt damon because they would have walked either tex and or arod to get to pena.
Now they have to pitch to Tex
I never understood the phenomenon of the closer.
Lidge is their worst relief pitcher at the moment. Why is he pitching the 9th inning? The guy pitching the best should get the 9th. Madson is pitching the best for them.
You keep throwing a struggling closer out there, this is what is going to happen.
boy, they better win this here.
agree with whoever critiqued girardi’s moves above. he out-thinks himself sometimes.
Epic Moment #342893 of the season right now.
boston dave – i’ll agree with that about matsui. if nothing else, necessity dictates he’ll have a while to figure it out.
Nooo Tex noooooo!
“Is it weird that I set up like a catcher in the middle of my living room when Mo is pitching?
Thats weird, right?”
This post gave me the best laugh I’ve had all day.
Come on Tex.
Damn anything but a DP.
Well that was devestating.
Wow, the worst possible outcome
as always, it’s up to A-ROD
ok. a pie for a-rod?!!
No MArky Mark
ouch, the pitch before was ball four
let the rookie get pied
I’m so not a fan of the shift.
One bad AB Tex had all weekend. Never try to pull the sinker.
They are going to walk Arod and pitch to Pena.
Pena can be the hero today and get the pie in the face.
At least Jeter is on 3rd. A-Rod is only swinging for a home run. It’s not like he can get hits anymore.
Why didn’t we double steal like Howard/Ibanez did?
Tex that was really a bad at bat!
guess not
Or he could do that. Good lord, Tex. Why? Just…why?
“If you’re gonna hit in to a double play, have the common sense to strike out.”
Out-Managing comes to bite us here
Takes the bat out of A-Rod’s hands.
wow. wasted opportunity. a loss looks a lot more likely than it did a few minutes ago. drag.
El Nino it’s your turn
Girardi’s move comes back to haunt him
And there it is Girardi!
of course!
The IBB for ARod. Would they have done that with Cano on deck?
Yeah right serf. Another brainless comment.
Ugh, now pinch running for Cano is a killer……..
Time for Ramiro to step up.
Beautiful.
Well Done GI JOE!!
So who pitches the 11th? Albaladejo?
You’re off the Mark, Teixeira.
All the young kids are getting the chance to shine lately. Pena…it’s your turn.
did j-roll call for the IBB? he was standing out there wiggling 4 fingers. at least thats what they showed here haha.
Lets go Nino. Lets go kid!
come on little Ramiro
gimme shelter?
“First pinch running Pena for Cano. The speed differential can’t be that large. Cano just stole a base yesterday.”
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If there is any speed differential at all, you can’t question putting the faster runner in there if it’s the tying run, IMO.
The smallest improvements could be the difference, especially when you’re down 1 in the 9th.
Ugh, wasted opportunity.
First pitch swinging Pena? Seriously?……
If Pena walks or gets on base somehow, it’s Melky’s turn again.
Damn, too bad there was two outs on that fly.
And he swings at the 1st pitch lol
Philly is a good offensive team, they are going to slug one out of here one of these innings. Not going to get endless opportunities.
Spoke too soon.
the pitcher has poor control and you swing at the first pitch?
SMFH
Might be Wang in the 11th.
Ouch………..and who would be coming up to bat in the bottom of the inning? Mo’s not going another, is he?
Tex should have let the pitch hit him, bases loaded for arod with no out. Maybe he was trying to hard to be pied as he swung at ball four
tex = goat
shades of yankees past that inning. horrible, horrible at-bat from teixeira. small ball would have won the game there.
I hope this doesn’t come back to haunt us
well at least the Milkman is batting bottom of the 11th.
“First pitch swinging Pena? Seriously?……”
it was a cookie he hit it hard and good, too bad it was at CF
Now we have Melky-Gardner-Cash in the 11th
This is not going to end well. Wasted opportunity there.
rammer missed his chance there but at least we have 3 more outs in B11
Miggs,
Can’t look at it like that. You have to tie the game in order to have a shot at winning it.
Putting the faster runner in the game in the 9th was the right move.
First and second, 0 outs, your hottest hitter and Arod coming up. You take that anytime with a shot to win the game.
Just didn’t work out this time.
Shoot. That might have been the best chance we’ll have to score. Now we have to use up the bullpen with Hughes on the mound tomorrow.
Devastating RS? I think you mean disappointing. Devastating is what happened to the Phils in the bottom of the 9th yesterday. Devastating is what happened to the Sox in the top of the 10th yesterday. That was disappointing at best.
“Is it weird that I set up like a catcher in the middle of my living room when Mo is pitching?
Thats weird, right?”
only if you start to see mo shaking you off.
Wang? Ugh – it better not be.
Why was Teix trying to pull a sinker?
Look, if it was Pena running for Matsui, Swisher, or someone else slow then I have no problem with it.
But Cano JUST STOLE 2nd yesterday to get into scoring position to score the winning run.
How much faster is Pena than Cano? Noticably faster? I highly doubt that.
Tomko time. I totally forgot about him
went from almost a bases loaded, no outs to 3 out useless inning.. Nice substitution Joe with Cano.. Sometimes he over thinks his job..
Ugh.
That was incredibly deflating. Melky, Matsui, and Cash. Gardner if anyone gets on. Melky better hit a home run, because I’d really rather not see the next three get to the plate.
C’mon, Tomko. Keep ‘em off the board.
By the way that was not a bad move by Girardi pinch running Cano earlier in the game because Pena scored.
Its Bret Tomko I’m holding my breath
“did j-roll call for the IBB? he was standing out there wiggling 4 fingers.”
He was tipping those pitches for his buddy Alex.
amazing how quickly people can turn on a guy…
the Yanks would have already lost this game if not for Tex.
starting to rain here in Jersey
What hurt them that inning was the double play, not Ramiro Pena’s flyout.
These are the types of games where are thrilling wins or terrible losses.
Boston is absolutely destroying the Mets right now. We need a win badly.
A strikeout by tex would of been better
Melky with a walk of HR!
“went from almost a bases loaded, no outs to 3 out useless inning.. Nice substitution Joe with Cano.. Sometimes he over thinks his job..”
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It’s the tying run in the 9th. You put the faster runner in.
period.
Melkman walkoff hr in the bottom of the 11th?? Just maybe?
This has Melky again written all over it
Boston leading 12-5. Atlanta beat the Jays.
Now Dave, you can’t be pointing things like that out.
The people demand a scapegoat, dammit!
“Boston is absolutely destroying the Mets right now. We need a win badly.”
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yes, badly.
or else.
Trisha,
You’re right. I still think we can win this game. I’m just upset we have to get more outs from our bullpen when we have Hughes and Joba pitching the next two days, and it’s shorthanded already because of Wang, Bruney, and Aceves.
Boston Dave speaks the truth. W/out Teixeira, no ninth inning heroics.
Tex the Goat has a homer in this game, right?
Great job by Tomko against Mayberry. Until today, Mayberry had never failed to homer in a game.
Don’t want to see Tomko face the middle of this line up, oops, here is Utley
trisha-
oh, the game. i get it.
i go though phases where i don’t watch too closely because it’s too painful, and i instead focus on the big picture.
i started doing that right before the winning streak so now i’m continuing it because it’s working
Tomko looks great.
Pena stole second and then scored the tying run. Cano, though he stole a base yesterday, is not a good basestealer. And who knows, he may have tweaked something, we don’t know…
Amazing. Tomko hasn’t given up a run and you’re holding your breath? That makes total sense.
Geesh.
tomko has good stuff as a reliever…good velocity
Wait…what’s wrong with Aceves?
It’s unfortunate that we have so many guys on the team who can’t hit like Swisher, Matsui, Gardner, Pena, Cervelli, Cash, Berroa
Pinch hitting opportunities are limited and when you do pinch run, you are doing it with a guy who can’t handle the bat.
“It’s the tying run in the 9th. You put the faster runner in period.”
The speed differential between Cano and Pena isn’t great enough to sacrifice the offense in extra innings… Overmanaging again!!
“Trisha,
You’re right. I still think we can win this game. I’m just upset we have to get more outs from our bullpen when we have Hughes and Joba pitching the next two days, and it’s shorthanded already because of Wang, Bruney, and Aceves.”
You forgot about or lights out man Nick Swisher?
Good walk to Utley
Here’s Babe Ruth Jr.
obvious tomko wanted nothing to do with utley..but ruiz has been hot
I’m calling Kevin Cash w/the walk-off hit/sac fly (because that’s how baseball works).
Another brilliant comment. Yes, the Yankees “badly” need a win today.
If they don’t, oh my God, it could be the season!
Dave,
Exactly. The strategy worked. The AB that killed them that inning was Tex’s, not Pena’s. That’s baseball.
You just move onto the next inning.
Get one more out and you have another chance to win the game.
The Mets are doomed to lose that game.. Did anyone else see that promo they were running on Channel 11 for todays Mets-Red Sox game?
Sam,
How are those dinner plans in Manhattan shaping up?
Aceves is not ready to be a regular reliever yet. He’s better suited to be the long-man….physically at least.
What kind of fan has to ask whats wrong with Aceves?
Nothing is wrong with him, but he’s on the shelf because he threw a lot of innings the other day.
Crazy. MLB.com television is always ahead of my television at home. I think that’s because it’s satellite and there’s a delay.
“By the way that was not a bad move by Girardi pinch running Cano earlier in the game because Pena scored”
yup.
swiped a base, and scored.
a lot of philly fans this series. grrrrrrr
Strike that Midget out please!
Usually when you blow a chance like we just did in extras, it comes back to haunt you.
Especially when the team on the other side is excellent and resilient themselves.
Please Please get through this inning
““It’s the tying run in the 9th. You put the faster runner in period.”
The speed differential between Cano and Pena isn’t great enough to sacrifice the offense in extra innings… Overmanaging again!!”
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overmanaging?
every manager in baseball uses a pinch runner when trailing by 1 in the 9th if there is a speed differential at all.
you worry about tying the game up.
you don’t worry about the 11th inning when you’re losing by a run in the 9th.
Another brilliant comment. Yes, the Yankees “badly” need a win today.
If they don’t, oh my God, it could be the season!
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That’s not what I mean. -_-
The next 7 days are on the road and going into it with a win would be great. Especially with Hughes and Chamberlain the next 2 days.
Dont give him anything. Even if you walk him.
With Jimmy Rollins on deck pick your poison…
If I never have to see Ruiz again
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
Ruiz 4-5 why not a fastball there
Time to trash Tomko!
That’s your opinion Dave! This is my opinion.. Cano is the better hitter and he can run.. You substitue defense with Pena.. That is his ticket to being here.. Not his baserunning ability.
Were you expecting anything different from Brett effing Tomko?
Yes, booo……
stay classy Yankee fans
Why must we let Ruiz kill us??
The 10th inning changed the whole momentum of the game.
Surprise, surprise. The Yankees could lose an extra inning game. I’m really surprised Ruiz got a hit here.
Nice job Brett!!
Ugh- terrible pitch by Tomko
Ruiz is the star of this series. Played great behind the plate and they haven’t gotten him out all weekend.
Sometimes, you just get beat by the hot guy. Like Melky has been in these siutations for the Yankees.
Crazy. MLB.com television is always ahead of my television at home. I think that’s because it’s satellite and there’s a delay.
I don’t have satellite, but I have a delay too. I have a DVR/TiVo with my cable box so I wonder if the delay is from that?
STOP THROWING FASTBALL RUIZ COULDN’T HIT
BLOW LEAD
We need more Melkman heroics in the bottom of the inning…
Ruiz has had a damn good series.
Tomko has to minimize the damage to give us a chance in the bottom of the inning.
One run is attainable.
BLOW GAME*
oh dang it
I don’t blame Tomko , Ruiz has all the sudden remembered he’s clutch.
God I hate him.
ballgame. y’all enjoy your remaining holiday weekend.
Well
this hurts. It’s not over yet but how much more drama can we have! If the yankees come back and win this game ill make Micheal Kay eat Ketchup
Brett
Tomko
And now I will be negative.
I just don’t see any way the guys we have coming up get this done. If they do, that’d be great, but Melky is the only competent bat we have coming up.
Tomko just couldn’t put him away. The pitch that sent it full was a good pitch, but not in that count. He was trying, but everything he was throwing up in the zone was getting fouled off. He finally challenged him, and Ruiz just pounded it.
It’s a tough loss, if it does indeed end up that way. Should’ve won it in the 10th.
Roll out les miserables and the crybabies.
Maybe we should have Tomko killed because he wasn’t perfect today.
We’re still happy w/ 8-2 these are the defending champs.
Tomko is starting to nibble now.
There’s always some idiot who shows up to make the “stupid posts of the day”, lol.
How obliging.
Cash hitting 3rd next. It’s important Melky and Matsui get on and hope to bunt.
Look, I hardly 2nd guess Girardi.
But here you go again. Cash up 3rd next inning, can’t pinch hit for him. Guy’s hitting what .050?
Again, it wouldn’t be an issue except I would have RATHER had Cervelli up there insteadof Swisher. I’m not saying Cervelli overall is a better hitter. But right now he’s swinging the bat much better than Swisher. I can see that clear as day.
How do you walk…nm just nm
2 walks, a SB, and 1 hit. That’s not giving the team a chance.. When was the last time Tomko pitched? Should’ve known he was gonna be a little rusty..
Migel Kay did everything he could this game to jinx us this game. It’s clear that this guy hates us.
game ain’t over yet
Melky leadoff HR. Rally caps back on!
its easy to blame tomko but there is no reason to…yanks offense blew it last inning…that sucks but that is baseball…hopefully they got some left
Milky
Matsui
Cash
nooooooo
now its melky matsui (pop out or k 100% positive on that) and cash!!
damnit
Yankees are allergic of first place
<— Correct
more rally capping
Awesome Pen.
Gotta love it when your team lives and dies on BRIAN BRUNEY!!
I hope Cashman gets Swine Flu and Herpes.
Bad news- Matsui and Cash are due up.
Good news- They’re both due for a hit.
Perhaps Matsui runs into one. You never know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsmybQKpmTw
i’m so sorry. i had to do this.
Tomko is a bad major league pitcher, enough said. He shouldn’t have been in the game. The offense has to save our butts once again
Tomko didn’t exactly face the easiest guys in the lineup. That was hard. Yankees need a miracle here because there’s practically no chance of a win with this part of the lineup.
Melky’s good in the late innings but nobodies on base.
Matsui is horrible.
Swisher?
Melky gets on, Godzilla wins it with a homer. How do you say pie in the face in Japanese?
“Sometimes, you just get beat by the hot guy. Like Melky has been in these siutations for the Yankees.”
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true – but they aren’t “beat” yet! let’s go Yanks.
Where’s LeBron James?
You can only go to that well so many times and this ump wants to go home.
Doesn’t look good, can’t always expect Melky to win it for us lol.
Lets go yanks tho
Oh yeah, its crybaby city now.
If they lose, the season is over, worst loss of the season, Fire Girardi, they quit, etc, etc.
If they lose, that’s baseball. Just as they had no business coming back yesterday.
I’ll take an 8-2 homestand, if it ends up that way, anytime.
I’m sorry we had 2 good tries to win the game we just couldn’t get it done today. Tex double play huge. Then swish and the other couldn’t get the guy home.
It would be very silly for anyone to expect Brett Tomko to be perfect today or any other day. But it would also be silly to expect him to become a different pitcher just because he’s now a Yankee.
Meanwhile, we’re already deep into their pen. We’ve come too far to give up now.
This is what happens when you expect a 36 yr old journeyman to save your bullpen.
I’d prefer that we draw and quarter Tomko.
You know, lend a touch of gladiator-era to his demise.
Just get on, Melky. Mats will take care of the rest.
“Oh yeah, its crybaby city now.”
Criticizing bad players on the team isn’t “crying”
“Tomko has to minimize the damage to give us a chance in the bottom of the inning.
One run is attainable.”
Very rational Miggs.
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Yeah, see ya Kasey. You enjoy your weekend also.
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Donnie, the game isn’t over yet. But if the Yankees don’t manage to come back I say GREAT GAME YANKEES! They could have lost it in the 9th and didn’t.
Why didn’t they have Alex guarding the line on that one? Isn’t that the perfect time for no-doubles-defense?
I’m not going to kill Tomko and I won’t kill the Yankees if they lose – they’ve given us more on this homestand than I possibly could have asked for. Killing Tex for a bad at bat is unfair – the man has been huge both at bat and defense wise. The thing that would kill is blowing a great chance to take 2/3 from the Phillies – losing 2/3, even though the Phillies are very good – at home is a bitter pill to swallow. The nice thing is that there is another game tomorrow…….but the Yankees(if they lose today) need to guard against a let down on the road.
rats.
is that why all of you “yankee fans” wanted bret tomko up in the big leagues for edwar ramirez?? tomko has never been a good pitcher. he is a journey man..
game isn’t over yet. come on!
Matsui is so due to run into one.
unless matsui hits a home run, that should be game
what a horrible way to end the homestand…mariano should have gone 2 innings
Melky is out. Game over methinks? Unless Matsui can get that little bit of power he has left in him out.
THE BLACKHOLE OF THE ORDER
And the game is up to Kevin Cash…
damn
damn
Game over guaranteed no way cash gets a hit in this tough situation lol
When was the last time Matsui slapped the outside pitch into left field?
If Cash hits a home run, I dance naked in the street. Better yet…if he gets a hit I’ll dance naked in the street.
Well they fought back. It’s was a good home stand but Cash hasn’t done crap w/ a bat.
This would be a tough loss, but it happens.
I’d prefer that we feed Tomko to the lions, if we’re going to do away with him for not being perfect.
You know, lend a brutal touch of the gladiator era to his demise.
Well game over. Cash is up, he shouldn’t be allowed to set foot in yankee stadium yet along play for them.
Yeah the forum genius knows all about the future with Brett Tomko because he knows what may have happened in the past. That’s why I’m sure he wrote the Red Sox and told them to sign Renteria since he was going to be a sure bet.
Idiot.
Matsui just looks miserable running down the line.
You have to think that once Nady and Posada come back, Matsui’s going to be permanently relegated to coming off the bench. He’s been great for us, but he’s too beaten up at this point. Really think he’s done this time.
this is gonne be a very bad loss.Gardner’s play,10th inn…
Nice at bat by Matsui again, this ump sucks today
Patrick,
Who do you bring in the game? The bullpen is completely gassed.
NOBODY got Ruiz out this weekend. He was the hot hand and he came through. Hard to put it all on Tomko.
I wouldn’t blow up my bullpen to win this game.
Unfortunately, with a chance to win in the 9th, Swisher, Matsui and Gardner, presently the three worst hitters on the team, couldn’t get the job done.
In the 10th, the hottest hitter on the team, Tex, hit into a DP.
Its baseball. Look big picture, turn the page and go to Texas.
So anyone still defending Matsui now?? He is a clone of Ortiz at this point!
Tomko is awful and always was awful
Ugh.
THROW SLIDERS
LOSE GAME
We have to blame ourselves for this one.
Tough game, but at least they battled back…
Go Yanks!!!!!
I would have rather just lost in 9
This sucks
We can all say “good game” but a loss is a loss
I don’t care if they lose 4-3 in the 11th or 22-0 it’s still one loss.
Something is wrong when the game comes down to Brett Tomko and Kevin Cash…
Tough loss. Damn…hopefully this road trip could be as awesome as this homestand was.
matsui shouldnt be on this team
8-2? I’ll take that every day of the week.
It’s just a matter of time until we’re in first.
Time to call the wahmulance, apparently.
Jesus Christ, its amazing how childish this place becomes during a loss or when they’re losing.
Its like bi-polar central.
Okay, now the game is over. Oh well
Get a win tomorrow
And they rallied with 2 outs too.
I thought Tomko was up here because he can throw strikes?
Specific people on this team make me sick. Michael Kay, Kevin Cash. 2 losers. Michael Kay wanted us to lose. Kevin Cash is still a Red Sox at heart.
Matsui’s more prone to streaking than drunk cheerleaders.
He’ll turn it around, but its really killing the team right now not to be able to count on him.
Lose the series.. Could have easily gotten swept here.. Damn, Boston moves up on us again.. Bitter loss here.. No other way to put it.. No sugar-coating this one.
“Tomko is awful and always was awful”
It was 1 R it’s not like he released the dogs.
8-2 on a 10 game home stand be proud of that, plus like 6 comebacks.
I never want to see Tomko again, ever.
If Cash hits a home run, I dance naked in the street. Better yet…if he gets a hit I’ll dance naked in the street.
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Come on Man you know cash has no chance of hitting a ball on a tee he is worst then Cody Randsom.
Girardi = Joe Torre Jr.
Over-managing again
“Something is wrong when the game comes down to Brett Tomko and Kevin Cash…”
Yeah it’s called the 11th inning and timing.
Sure, Edwar would have “saved” the day. With his 8 HR’s, 16 walks in 17 innings.
Yup, he would have been the savior.
Sometimes, strange as it may be for some to figure out, the other team just beats you. The Phillies stepped up and found a way to win today.
They are after all the defending champs.
Roger(the new amsterdam yankees )
May 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
this is gonne be a very bad loss.Gardner’s play,10th inn…
Your membership is hereby revoked.
1- How do you let Utley go unwatched and steal 2nd?
2- Why 3 straight breaking balls to Ruiz when he was right on them?
3- Bad at bat by Tex
4- Matsui blows
This was a winnable game but oh well on to Texas
Phillies are just a better team than us. So is Boston.
We’re not there yet. This was a statement series and we blew it.
well, that was anticlimactic.
0-5 vs. Boston
1-2 vs. Philly
Maybe we are not as good as we thought. We find ways to lose. Just like we did in all 5 games vs. BOS.
this game was no tomkos fault. we had 2 on and no one out vs. some bum and a 3 ball count and could not sore a run with our 3 and 4 hitters up
somethings up with that
Cashman HAS to fix this bullpen. Tomko should NEVER be on the team
ended the homestand with a loss but that doesnt change the fact that we went 8-2 on the homestand. better than i expected. good job guys, go gett’em tomorrow.
Woah, someone got called an idiot!
That’s worse than a pie in the face.
2 great teams playing against each other, and the game’s decided by 1 run. It happens. Nothing to be ashamed of. The Yanks are great and they’re going to continue making a great run here on in, but you can’t expect them to win every game.
I wish we had Boston’s bullpen. They had the luxury of using Delcarmen (0.86 ERA) and Saito (3.45 ERA, former closer) in a game where they had a 7-run lead.
Meanwhile we had to use Tomko in a do-or-die situation.
Let’s face it: Matsui is nothing since he’s been off PEDs
Discuss.
(just kidding………haha)
angel
Just saying that this shouldn’t have been a loss.I still want to me a member!!haha
Come on, I’m disappointed too, but really – they can’t win every game. Tex will come through more often than not – it happens. The Red Sox just lost 2/3 to the Mets and the Jays lost 2/3 to the Braves. How many times has this team come back? I can’t even count – they gave a valiant effort and fell short. They will live to play another game………I guess we’ll hear from mediots that the Yankees aren’t any good because they lost 2/3 to the Phils at home, but that’s a crock. This is a very good team. That said, Bruney is a major concern. They need to send him for a battery of tests because you don’t just feel pain for no reason.
“Girardi = Joe Torre Jr.
Over-managing again”
Girardi can’t shine Torre’s shoes. Torre is out in LA 15 games over .500 and playing just as well without Manny.
Yankees run was over as soon as Torre left the door. Atleast he got us to the playoffs. Girardi might not even do that 2 years in a row.
sometimes you eat the bear….sometimes the bear eats you
the Yanks abide
You just can’t blame the 4th catcher for this one.
He did what he usually does. No one expected him to do anything there, and he didn’t disappoint.
And with a short bullpen, you’ll eventually run out of luck.
This game was lost on the double play by Tex, but you can’t blame him for that either. Even the hottest hitters fail 60% of the time.
Trisha,
The game was over as soon as Melky didn’t get on. I thought if he got on, MAYBE they’d have a shot at it, but Matsui and Cash are both automatic outs at this point. I wasn’t trying to be “negative”, just realistic. Stranger things have happened, but history shows that when you have the chance to win in the 10th, and blow it with a GIDP, and leave it on Melky and two guys that should be riding the pine, you just don’t have much of a chance.
Still, good homestand. Hopefully they can get it done on the road now.
8-2! Ill take it, but Cash Idk why he is allowed to play baseball. Does anyone know why?