Game 47: Yankees at Rangers (with updates on Bruney, Cabrera and Posada)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 27, 2009 
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YANKEES (26-20)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Gardner CF
Cash C
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (2-2, 5.28).
RANGERS (27-18)
Kinsler 2B
Young 3B
Hamilton CF
Jones DH
Cruz RF
Murphy LF
Davis 1B
Saltalamacchia C
Andrus SS
Pitching: LHP Derek Holland (1-1, 4.82).
TIME/TV: 8:05 p.m., YES.
RUBBER GAME: The teams split the first two games of the series. The Yankees have won 11 of their last 14 but have lost three of their last five.
BURNED, BABY BURNED: A.J Burnett, as feared, has been inconsistent. After winning his first two starts as a Yankee and pitching well, Burnett is 0-2 with a 6.04 ERA in the seven starts since. He has allowed 46 hits (nine home runs) and walked 25 over 44.2 innings.
THE STREAK LIVES: The Yankees have gone 13 straight games without an error. That is a franchise record.
GRITTY, GUTTY: Brett Gardner is 11 of his last 26 (.422) with five extra-base hits, four RBI and only one strikeout.
COKE USED TO BE IT. NOT SO MUCH ANY MORE: Phil Coke (or as Joe Girardi pronounces it, “Scott Proctor”) has had a rough last eight outings. He has allowed six earned runs on eight hits anf four walks over 9.2 innings. Four of the eight hits have been home runs and he has struck out only four.
STREAKS: Derek Jeter has a 10-game hit streak. Since missing two games with that oblique strain in Toronto, he has raised his batting average from .273 to .287. … Mark Teixeira has hit in nine straight, going from .231 to .271.
ROAD WARRIORS: The Yankees are a solid-enough 12-11 away from the Boogie Down.
Back later with much more.
UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: Here’s a report from Tampa via the AP:
Yankees catcher Jorge Posada played five innings of defense in an extended spring training intrasquad game Wednesday and is hopeful of rejoining the team during a series that starts Friday night in Cleveland.
Posada strained his right hamstring in a game May 4 against Boston and is on the 15-day disabled list.
He ran from first to third on a single and threw out a runner attempting to steal second base. The five-time AL All-Star played three innings in the field during a simulated game Tuesday.
“It feels good when I’m running,” Posada said. “The hamstring is good. Now it’s seeing some pitches, getting some at-bats and catching more.”
Posada, hitless in four at-bats, flied out twice, struck out, reached on an error and walked.
Outfielder Xavier Nady and infielder Cody Ransom also took part in the extended spring game as designated hitters. Nady went 1 for 3 with a walk. Ransom hit a long homer off Humberto Sanchez and walked twice.
Backup catcher Jose Molina went through extensive defensive drills, but did not participate in the extended spring game.
BREAKING NEWS UPDATE, 6:56 p.m.: Here’s the latest on the medical front:
Melky Cabrera: He had an MRI and will be sent back to New York tomorrow to be examined by team doctor Chris Ahmad. The initial diagnosis is that he will be out 5-7 days. If it’s more than that, they will probably DL him and call up an infielder.
Meanwhile — get this — Ramiro Pena was taking balls in the outfield today. Once again we ask: Why is Angel Berroa still on the roster?
Brian Bruney: Dr. James Andrews checked him out and he came up clean. No ligament issue. He has a flexor muscle strain and whatever pain he still has is a residual of that. He will rest and start a throwing program. Because Bruney fibbed about how he felt last time, you can bet he’ll out at least another 2-3 weeks at least.
Jorge Posada: He will be activated on Friday in Cleveland unless he gets hit by a bus in Tampa. He’s probably only going to work out tomorrow. Joe Girardi it was a “strong possibility” that Posada would be activated which is way of saying, “Posada will be activated.”
Girardi said they need to discuss who will be dropped off the roster. Kevin Cash one would think. But who knows?
UPDATE, 7:08 p.m.: We’re underway in Arlington. 80 degrees not a cloud in the sky. I think this is a pivotal game for A.J. Burnett. The Pie Man needs to be an $82.5 million pitcher at some point.
Meanwhile, Jeter now has an 11-game hitting streak and Teixeira just hit a bomb to left. 2-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 8:19 p.m.: I have some newspaper work to get to, so updates could be scarce for a bit. Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 9:50 p.m.: Methinks A.J. Burnett is going to get himself a pie in the face the way this thing is going. His line through 5: 3 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts.
UPDATE, 9:59 p.m.: 6-0 as Cash drills a two-run single. Burnett has no excuses now.
UPDATE, 10:11 p.m.: It’s 6-0 and the Yankees have three healthy outfielders. Johnny Damon doesn’t need to be taking on any fences. That said, nice grab.
UPDATE, 10:19 p.m.: Burnett is at 117 pitches. That’ll be it for him. That’s not particularly economical for six innings. But six shutout innings, you can’t complain about that. Now they need to find six outs in the bullpen before giving Mo a little work. He hasn’t pitched since Sunday and there’s a day off tomorrow. Or maybe use Wang for three? No, of course not.
UPDATE, 10:25 p.m.: Jose Veras warming up. Burnett’s pitch count was rising. Wang could have been warming up 20 minutes ago.
He’s certainly not pitching tomorrow. That’ll be six days of doing nothing.
UPDATE, 10:34 p.m.: Nice game for Daisuke Burnett. 6 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 4 walks, 7 strikeouts, 118 pitches.
UPDATE, 10:38 p.m.: The first batter has reached on Veras 10 times in 21 appearances. You could put the ball on a tee and get more outs.
UPDATE, 10:43 p.m.: If there some way the Yankees would not be a better team if they DFA’d Berroa and Veras and added John Rodriguez and Mark Melancon? Or any two passers-by on the street?
Veras has thrown 20 innings and allowed 17 hits and 13 walks.
UPDATE, 10:48 p.m.: Girardi must be pleased. He can use Phil Coke at some point.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: David Robertson throws strikes with the lead. What a concept. Joe Torre may have wore relievers out. But at least he wore out the good ones and got everything out of them. Girardi wears out the bad ones.
UPDATE, 10:57 p.m.: Now Wang is warming up. But I don’t think he’s necessarily coming in. He may just be getting work in.
UPDATE, 11:02 p.m.: Nope he’s coming in. Why bring him in now as opposed to the seventh inning? If there is some plan for Wang, it’s not readily apparent.
UPDATE, 11:12 p.m.: 1-2-3 inning for Wang drops his ERA to 22.50!
Hey, he has to start somewhere. He had good action on the sinker.
UPDATE, 11:15 p.m.: In what should be his final appearance as a Yankee, Angel Berroa is pinch running for Matsui.
I heard he’s on the juice anyway. Prune juice.
(I didn’t come up with that, somebody else in the press box did. But I will not divulge who.)
UPDATE, 11:23 p.m.: Berroa out by 10 feet. That should be his final act as a Yankee. Fitting in a way. He had that wheelchair going as fast as he could.
Red Sox lose. Yankees are three outs away from being tied for first.
Phil Coke (or as Joe Girardi pronounces it, “Scott Proctor”)
nice.
“BURNED, BABY BURNED: A.J Burnett, as feared, has been inconsistent. After winning his first two starts as a Yankee and pitching well, Burnett is 0-2 with a 6.04 ERA in the seven starts since. He has allowed 46 hits (nine home runs) and walked 25 over 44.2 innings.”
How did this guy ever get $82 million dollars? His agent is better than Boras
Great piece on Wang, Pete. Tell Wang to get a new agent. I hate how they are jerking him around. Yanks have always been like that, they treat losers like Pavano with kid gloves and good kids like Wang, they treat like crap.
So is it pretty much guaranteed that Wang goes after Burnett is taken out?
Coke has kind of become another Proctor
He is a mediocre reliever, who happens to be the best of a weak bunch, and thus is being put in late innings and overused.
Feliz is not 20 yrs. old he is atleast 23
And funny Hollands started in the BP nothing said by Fatcessa after Daniels said that.
our bullpen is such a mess.
on the bright side robertson was good last night, hopefully he can keep it up.
as soon as melky comes back he needs to go to rf with gardner in cf & swish on the bench until the of mess gets fixed only because gardner is hot.
I have a feeling Wang is pitching the last 3 innings of this game, regardless of score. Up 1, down 1, up 10, down 10… regardless, he is getting in the game
Phil Coke (or as Joe Girardi pronounces it, “Scott Proctor”) has had a rough last eight outings. He has allowed six earned runs on eight hits anf four walks over 9.2 innings. Four of the eight hits have been home runs and he has struck out only four.
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yeesh
Mr. Whipped Cream better step up tonight
He was brought here to pitch well, not become a baker.
The bullpen is a complete mess
Aceves, Coke, Veras, Tomko are our ‘trusted’ relievers. Wow.
If Holland attacks the zone and doesn’t walk the ballpark, it could be a long night for the offense. It may not matter what Wang/AJ do.
Import Knight
May 27th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Mr. Whipped Cream better step up tonight
He was brought here to pitch well, not become a baker.
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Repeating stupidity doesn’t help you in Special Ed classes.
on the bright side robertson was good last night, hopefully he can keep it up.
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I went to sleep and missed him. He looked good? That’s good to hear.
“but have lost three of their last five.”
I dont like this, as i said this road trip is the season.
LETS GO YANKEES!!!
“Mr. Whipped Cream better step up tonight”
That’s Mr. Miracle Whip to you buddy !
Enough with the pies, time for results AJ.
“Feliz is not 20 yrs. old he is atleast 23″
21 on May 2 according to every site I’ve seen. You know something otherwise?
Jeter leads AL allstar voting. Mlb.com
Always funny to have children quote Diet Coke.
How creative…..and sad.
To hold as your idol one of the dumbest sports commentators in NYC is really quite funny.
Next, you will tell me how Eli Manning will “never win a Super Bowl”. Another one of Diet Coke’s classic “facts”.
Let Wang stay in the pen… a 93 MPH sinker coming out of the pen, getting double plays could be a nice weapon to have
we will straighten the pen & of out.
the cream will rise to the top & cash will make a trade or two if needed in addition to roster moves.
francessa disgusts me.
every other prospect is great except the yankees ones,the yankees do everything wrong because he does not agree with them.
as long as you have a great pen you will win like the phillies last year according to him.
what he does not mention is that the phillies starting pitching got hot at the perfect time last year & hammels won 2 games in every series last year & was red hot.
his attitude is you can have a horrible starting rotation but a good pen & win it all but what happens if ten teams have better bullpens?
your starting rotation does not have to be the best but it has to be good enough.
there are so many factors that come into play.
he also fails to realize that whoever takes joba’s place has to get joba the ball.
“21 on May 2 according to every site I’ve seen. You know something otherwise?”
No * zip *:lol:
This roadtrip is not the season. Stop spouting stupidity.
Geez Louise, they get home on June 2. You mean to tell me the season is “over” if they don’t do well on this roadtrip?
Come on, you gotta be smarter than that.
Make Burnett earn his next start. If he doesn’t get the job done today he should sit in the bullpen for the next 2 weeks and Wang should get a start. Everyone should earn their playing time, no matter how much money you make.
I’m sure the players are going to get pretty sick of the pies too if he isin’t performing.
He was expected to be a key cog in the rotation. With Wang out, it holds even more true. He has not performed, he has the worst ERA on the staff. Time to step up.
“If Holland attacks the zone and doesn’t walk the ballpark, it could be a long night for the offense.”
Ok, and if our offense works the counts and pounds the meatballs, it could be a short night for Holland. Who knows what will happen? Was the game on Monday supposed to go down as it did?
“Let Wang stay in the pen… a 93 MPH sinker coming out of the pen, getting double plays could be a nice weapon to have”
I’d rather see a 100 MPH fast ball coming out of the pen and a proven 2 time 19 game winner starting.
What will all the whining about tonight’s lineup focus on? My guess is that it will be 90% directed towards whatever role Swisher plays in the lineup.
Wonder if Damon will call out Mr. Pie if he bombs tonight
Coke would be a good to very good reliever if he was ever used properly.
“Jeter leads AL allstar voting. Mlb.com”
AL ain’t exactly shortstop rich. Bartlett’s been better, but he’s now hurt. Jeter should cruise.
SJ44 May 27th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
This roadtrip is not the season. Stop spouting stupidity.
Geez Louise, they get home on June 2. You mean to tell me the season is “over” if they don’t do well on this roadtrip?
Come on, you gotta be smarter than that.
Im saying it bec last year after our winning streak we went on the road and thats when we lost the season.
I still dont trust girardi and this team to get up after a slide thats all.
“If Holland attacks the zone and doesn’t walk the ballpark, it could be a long night for the offense.”
If Holland attacked the British and didn’t let them sail into New York Harbor we’d all be speaking Dutch.
How in the world did Burnett get 5 years $82 million?
What an awful contract. The guy’s “career year” where he learned from Halladay only resulted in a 4.07 ERA. Take out the Yankees and it is well over 5.
Mr. Whipped Cream better step up tonight
He was brought here to pitch well, not become a baker.
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Is Francesa posting here now?
francessa building up tonights yankee game saying an 82 million dollar pitcher against a 400.000 dollar one.let’s see what happens he said.
what an idiot.
ray (sox fan)
May 27th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
“Should NYY try to sign one and get rid of Cash, who has been totally unacceptable on defense or offense?”
Good afternoon GB. In spite of last night your Yankees have been on too much of a roll to my liking so I want you to do something about that.
On a more serious note I am not surprised about Cash. After all the Sox had him last year and ended up letting him go. The Sox aren’t exactly “catching rich”, so the fact that they let him go was an indicator of his ability or lack there of.
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afternoon, Ray. Hope all is well with you and the (sox fan) family. Great to see you back on here and trashing the yankees. I know that you say you respecy and fear the Yankees, but, I can read between the lines. Hope you poodle has 5 litters of ugly mongrels, just like Killer.
Speaking of catching, do you think the Sox will stay with Kottrass or go after a Cash, Zahn or Moeller?
I was going to ask you about Sox rumors on the upcoming draft, but, I saw earlier that you said you weren’t up on the details.
What I just read earlier was that the hot commodity was corner infielders. Other than Anderson, who do you guys have? Here’s an article on it. Read it at your own risk.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
After winning 9 in a row, if we lose tonight, we would have dropped 2 straight series.
Just like last year, the 2 winning streaks both followed slides. You have to be able to build on winning streaks and continue to play well, not start to lose the ground you made up.
Francessa has been wrong about Joba today, but he has been 100% spot on about Burnett.
Tom in N.J.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
“If Holland attacks the zone and doesn’t walk the ballpark, it could be a long night for the offense.”
If Holland attacked the British and didn’t let them sail into New York Harbor we’d all be speaking Dutch.
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lmao
“randy was right that Wang was throwing from the wrong arm slot in this distastrous early starts, but randy was not right when he theorized that the Yankees were deliberately changing Wang’s arm slot and mechanics.”
nick in sf-
nice try. you think i’m going to let you get away with that one so easy
here’s the deal. i knew the arm slot was all wrong. either the yankees were changing it or not. i intentionally took the position they were changing it to highlight the issue. it worked. within one day of lively debate eiland was answering the question posed by sam borden.
if i hadn’t taken an extreme controversial position, would we have gotten a definitive answer from eiland?
the pipeline has been opened with wang and the blog. what we say here will get back to the yankees and even wang indirectly.
the fact is something is drastically wrong with wang and he’s not being handled well. the more of a spotlight we all can put on the issue of how he’s being fixed the quiker he’ll be fixed.
and don’t forget that peter a wrote a book about wang and knows him very well.
this post by peter is just part of the process of discovering what’s going on with him.
i think we need to see wang pitch again and often for us to have any idea where he’s at.
Pete posted the AJ stats. They don’t lie. He has not been carrying his weight. $82 million dollars for this?
Carl79 May 27th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
After winning 9 in a row, if we lose tonight, we would have dropped 2 straight series.
Just like last year, the 2 winning streaks both followed slides. You have to be able to build on winning streaks and continue to play well, not start to lose the ground you made up.
IM with you.
I just read the All-Star stuff. The Yankees really don’t do as much in support of their players as other organizations do.
OK Peter, the Girardi bashing is getting to be a bit much. Coke has not been over used so what you said makes no sense. Proctor was used until his arm almost fell off.
The money is meaningless once the games begin. Once the children understand that, they will understand the game better.
Last year doesn’t have anything to do with this year.
This is not a do or die roadtrip.
They are 0-5 against the Red Sox this year yet, sit only ONE game out of first place.
Was the season “over” after they lost those games against the Sox? Obviously not.
After this roadtrip, there are 111 games remaining in the season. If you believe the season is “over” after the trip, you just don’t understand baseball.
Will Holland be J.A. Happ or Matt Harrison?
“After winning 9 in a row, if we lose tonight, we would have dropped 2 straight series.
Just like last year, the 2 winning streaks both followed slides. You have to be able to build on winning streaks and continue to play well, not start to lose the ground you made up.”
Agree 100%. Losing two series is not the way you want to go. Cleveland ain’t a walk in the park either. Hard to win 4 game series on the road. They have to keep this from turning into a slide.
“Will Holland be J.A. Happ or Matt Harrison?”
Somewhere in the middle. Yanks win 8-6
Every team has up and down streaks. If they didn’t, they would have .800 winning %.
That’s why you can’t go game to game, as some of you do.
There are ups and downs in every season.
Whether they win or lose today, its not the end of the world or the season.
No dice, randy. The arm slot issue had been discussed many times as far back as Wang’s early starts, and the F/X data was published elsewhere. The idea that it suddenly got to the Yankees on Sunday because it was being discussed here on Saturday is… funny.
And the idea that you lie in your posts because of some master plan is… well, I don’t know what that is. Just tell the truth!
oh no Cy Holland tonight
hopefully the yankees clown on Holland
In this division, you can’t give away games
Think they were 6 games last year we would like to have back?
They faced Harrison last year… he doesn’t count as the rookie they have never faced.
Holland is a big time prospect
“After winning 9 in a row, if we lose tonight, we would have dropped 2 straight series.
Just like last year, the 2 winning streaks both followed slides. You have to be able to build on winning streaks and continue to play well, not start to lose the ground you made up.”
I’m not an optimist by nature.
But posts like this completely miss the forest for the trees.
When Posada went down, we were something like 13-10 and in third place in the AL East. We had just been swept by Boston.
I admit, I was afraid the sky was going to fall on us. Without Posada, I thought, our offense was going to sputter.
But look what happened. Cervelli came up and did a great job. ARod came back and has been great. The Yanks are 26-20 and one game out of first. We actually gained a game on Boston!
And now Posada will be back soon, hopefully Melky will too.
We are in great shape, win or lose tonight.
it is amazing that burnett has not won in 7 games.
how about he pitch a good game for once & show us what halladay taught him.
he shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as halladay.different planet.
randy.let that get back to the yankees.
Is holland a lefty?
Oh please, not the “can’t give games away” argument.
They are playing a first place team on the road. That’s not exactly “giving games away”.
So, how exactly is this division “tough” so far?
Baltimore is terrible. Tampa is in big trouble and Toronto has lost 8 in a row.
You know what? This division is what it usually is….between the Yankees and Red Sox.
Unless Tampa can get healthy and get their pitching under control, they aren’t in the mix. Offense alone won’t do it.
Toronto? Somebody other than Halliday has to give them consistent outings.
The Yankees are going to be in this race all year.
This is the same chicken little nonsense we see on here everytime they lose a game.
Some of you act as if they will never win a game after they lose one. Its amazing how much that happens here.
Next, it will be the usual whining about the lineup. Then, if they are down in the second inning, its the call for mass firings.
Same folks, saying the same things in the game thread. It never changes.
This lineup is scary for Burnett. All these power bats in the small ballpark.
Then again, with the way he is pitching, there is never a good matchup right now.
Nick,
For the love of the blog, let it go!
SJ44
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
if wang gets better & hughes pitches well francessa will be talking about burnett going to the bullpen.
SJ, why do you write essays instead of comments? What makes you think people want to read that junk? You wrote more than Peter!
The Yankees have ruined Wang
They have turned him into Rick Ankiel
SJ44
May 27th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Oh please, not the “can’t give games away” argument.
They are playing a first place team on the road. That’s not exactly “giving games away”.
So, how exactly is this division “tough” so far?
Baltimore is terrible. Tampa is in big trouble and Toronto has lost 8 in a row.
You know what? This division is what it usually is….between the Yankees and Red Sox.
Unless Tampa can get healthy and get their pitching under control, they aren’t in the mix. Offense alone won’t do it.
Toronto? Somebody other than Halliday has to give them consistent outings.
The Yankees are going to be in this race all year.
This is the same chicken little nonsense we see on here everytime they lose a game.
Some of you act as if they will never win a game after they lose one. Its amazing how much that happens here.
Next, it will be the usual whining about the lineup. Then, if they are down in the second inning, its the call for mass firings.
Same folks, saying the same things in the game thread. It never changes.
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Like you say, Tampa’s offense can’t do it all. Now, not is their rotation and bullpen taking big hits, but, so is their offense and middle infield defense.
Posada may be back on Friday. Its HUGE that this team was able to stay close with Posada out of the lineup.
When he comes back, it lengthens the lineup and makes them better.
How can anyone not be excited about that?
One thing this team has shown this year. Its resillant.
They have flaws, like everybody else. But, they are showing a toughness that we haven’t seen in the last few years from Yankee teams.
I’d rather focus on that than being chicken little after every loss.
If we lose tonight, yet another series lost to a good team.
Still have 4 in Cleveland, where it is hard to win a 4 game series in the road
Then we face Texas at home, Tampa 4, @ Boston 3, Mets
Schedule is becoming tough now. We’ve already lost 3 of 5.
m: what? randy and I are fine. You should worry about your favorite futbol club, not us.
“Phil Coke (or as Joe Girardi pronounces it, “Scott Proctor”) has had a rough last eight outings. He has allowed six earned runs on eight hits anf four walks over 9.2 innings. Four of the eight hits have been home runs and he has struck out only four.”
—meet our setup man….until Joba is rightfully moved to where he belongs.
“I dont like this, as i said this road trip is the season.”
Are you SERIOUS? It’s May 27th and the team is only one game out of first. ONE game. A-Rod was out for weeks and Posada’s not back yet. ONE game.
Sorry, I must have missed the press release by MLB. I did not know the AL East standings on June 2 were going to be the final standings. My bad.
Correction: Now, not ***only*** is their rotation
gutty greedy brett gardner
May 27th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
SJ, why do you write essays instead of comments? What makes you think people want to read that junk? You wrote more than Peter!
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ggbg.sj is right.the truth should not hurt.
apparently you read his essay.
If we can win with no bullpen, why can’t Tampa?
And we have 3 inconsistent starters in Joba, AJ, and Hughes. Just like they do.
2-0 Barcelona! Header by Messi! The Red Devils are on the ropes!
Are they going to do anything with Berroa and get another bat for the bench or make a package deal for a legit RF? Let’s go Cash… time to make something happen.
Great comments on Wang… was shocked he wasn’t the long man last night. Hard to understand bringing Aceves in that situation with Bruney back on the DL. The money for Igawa instead of Lilly is arguably the worst decision of the past four years.
Where are all those people who blasted me for stating that Swisher is not a top every day ballplayer? He was horrible last night and has had maybe two good games in a month.
It’s a sad state of affairs when Yankee fans complain the most out of any other fan base. Just by reading the comments on this (and other boards) you’d think the Yankees were in last place!
Don’t like it, don’t read it. I’m changing what I do on here to suit you. Get over it.
Carlos Zambarano just lost his mind in the Cubs game.
Morgan slid under his tag on a WP, and he went nose to nose with the HP umpire. He then bumped him, then threw him out of the game (motioned that he should be thrown out when the HP umpire threw him out), and then threw the ball and his glove into the stands.
He wasn’t finished. He goes in the dugout, grabs a bat, and destroys the Gatorade machine in the front of the dugout.
That will cost him some games.
We’ve already lost 3 of 5.
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And we’ve won 7 of 10. See you can look at it any way you want.
Toronto and Halladay had an 8-2 lead going into the 8th inning. They brought in Carlson and the score is now 8-5, one out, abd bases loaded. That would be a killer for Toronto to lose that game, now, considering their losing streak.
last year..Burnett was 3-4 4.94 era in 9 starts
gutty greedy brett gardner
May 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I didnt read the essay, I’m just annoyed that it took up half of my screen while I was SCROLLING past it.
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lol
nice comeback.
“Carlos Zambarano just lost his mind in the Cubs game.”
He’s a very talented head case. My guess is that he’s frustrated that the Cubs, who most picked to win the NL, are struggling. His behavior isn’t helping matters.
Here’s a report from Tampa via the AP:
Yankees catcher Jorge Posada played five innings of defense in an extended spring training intrasquad game Wednesday and is hopeful of rejoining the team during a series that starts Friday night in Cleveland.
GOOD NEWS!!!
I’m not worried about Toronto, they are a paper Tiger
I am worried about Tampa making a trade for a reliever and getting hot.
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaa Yankees Win!
And I’m out.
Does anyone remember Damaso Marte? Where does he stand on the road to recovery?
Also, any word on Bruney’s trip to Dr Andrews aka Dr. Tommy John?
The Yankees have won 26 out of their last 46.
SJ-
Great just what my fantasy team needs Zambrano to have another meltdown.
Initial All Star votes are in have to say I agree with most although how Adam Jones isnt even in the top 14 OF is a crime
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....ote_052709
“The idea that it suddenly got to the Yankees on Sunday because it was being discussed here on Saturday is… funny.”
nick in sf-
here’s what sam wrote:
UPDATE, 1:11 p.m.: Since several of you mentioned it – and I’m all about obliging the loyal readers – I chatted briefly with Dave Eiland this morning about Wang’s issues with his sinker. Specifically, we talked about his release point and arm slot.
Eiland said that yes, there’s clearly a difference in Wang’s release point from when his sinker was consistently good to right now. What they are working with Wang on, Eiland said, is “staying over the rubber” longer. As you all know, Wang has a very deliberate wind-up – he raises his leg incredibly slowly and does a little “tap-tap” with the ball before throwing. The problem, according to Eiland, is that the “tap-tap” is coming a little later and Wang’s lower body has already started to push forward toward the plate. That means he’s forced to release the point at a higher point and thus, there’s no bite on the sinker and it hangs up.
If Wang is able to stay over the rubber long, Eiland said, the “tap-tap” will take place with his body still in one location – as opposed to the lower half having already started forward – and his release point will be lower again. That’s what they’re focusing on now.
Sorry if this is a little more technical than some of you might be interested in – I know it would be for me – but since Wang’s issues have been dissected by many on here, I thought those of you curious might find it interesting.
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sam says he asked because the issue was being discussed and dissected on the blog.
you seem to have a problem with that.
… and don’t forget to tell me how stupid i am for cheerleading the value of livan hernandez. how’d you like that complete game yesterday. what’s he, 4-1 now?
8-7 Toronto, 2 on, 2 out and Markakis is batting.
I’m sorry – I was out – didn’t see the new thread and posted this (carryover from Wang discussion):
murphydog
I’ve said many times here that people are underestimating the language/culture barrier that is a real impediment in Wang’s situation. Because this is not a situation that can be covered by regular baseball jargon. We’re talking nuanced language here that deals with imprecise descriptions of what’s happening with his body. It’s huge. I assume he has an interpreter, but you do have to wonder what is getting lost in the translation.
That’s one problem.
The other problem. Well that was the knee-jerk overreaction the Yankees had to Joba getting clipped in the knee. No plan on what to do next.
The rotation is already out of whack. Hughes and Joba should not be pitching back to back. But you can’t put CMW between those two at all, if he’s not right. So, they’re going to have to do something about getting that rotation where it needs to be. That will actually help the bullpen, too. (I know Hughes went 8 innings this time, but that is not what ordinarily occurs.)
SJ44, while I agree that Wang should pitch tonight – I really don’t know what the feasibility of that is. You’ve got a pitcher, AJ Burnett, who has been having some inconsistency issues. If he’s got another B-B+ game tonight, then, yeah, you can throw Wang in there, maybe sacrificing this game (and the series). But AJ was quote in the the Star Ledger this morning as saying he’s extremely disappointed that he hasn’t been able to pitch the number of innings he usually does. He’s annoyed with himself. Now, what if he’s pitching an A-A+ game tonight and going 8 innings would be a breeze for him? Do you take him out?
They have an off day tomorrow.
It’s really a bit of a logistical mess right now. And that’s not even counting the fact that Wang is kind of moping over this – not that he’s not justified a littled to do some moping, but he’s got to be part of the solution, not add to the problem. Be more assertive. Insist on figuring out a way that will work for himself and the team. I would think that taking the initiative to talk to Girardi was a step in this direction for him.
I don’t want to lose Wang, either to negligence or trade. He’s been a valuable member of this team, notwithstanding the 2 poor starts in the playoffs. It happens. I believe even Tom Seaver lost a playoff game. But Wang gets this team TO the playoffs, you know? I can’t believe people scoffing at two 19-win seasons and last season he was justing getting really heated up when the injury happened. There’s an awful lot of people within the Yankees organization that can take responsbility for their not advancing in the playoffs the last few years.
So, bottom line, I feel bad for Wang, BUT that does nothing. A workable solution has to be found. They may just have to get him on a mound for an inning or two, “see something they don’t like” and put him back on the DL. Problem, if not solved, well, addressed for the time being. He needs to pitch.
8-8- now
The answer to our bullpen woes is David Roberston, he is the only one man enough to throw strikes and actually gets strike outs. He should be the bridge to Mo while Bruney does his time. When he returns Girardi can do Robertson/Bruney/Mo thats a solid 7/8/9 that can attack the zone and miss bats in the late innings. Robertson was used in stupid situations with 2 on no outs and of course hes going to get knocked around, Girardi needs to bring him into the top of an inning so he can handle his own situation not one Veras or Coke couldn’t finish.
Toronto bullpen imploding, tied at 8-8 with the Orioles. Blew all of Hallady’s 5 run lead. Cito’s never going to pull Halladay early again.
Some of you crybabies ought to be Blue Jays fans. 8 losses in a row, Halliday going today, 8-3 lead to the Orioles in the 9th, and they blow lead.
Now 8-8 going into the 10th.
I believe this was the team that some of you insisted “will be in the race all year”.
Not if they keep playing like this.
WOW. Markakis doubles to tie the game and Rios throws out Jones at the plat trying to score from first for the third out. Not even close. Huff was on deck. Stupid base running.
LOL Wow. What is it with these late inning choke jobs? First Tampa now Toronto.
I shouldn’t laugh because our pen has the capabilities of doing the same thing every night.
Blue Jays were never a threat. Tampa is.
We can win with no bullpen, so can Tampa.
rios has an arm wow
toronto is going down.
sweet.halladay is giving the leadser of my fantasy league huge points.
billingsley also.
SJ that was the 8th inning no extras yet
Green Beret,
Gamecast was showing Toronto with a 97% chance of winning this game at the beginning of the bottom half of the inning. Then it went down to 67%, but up to 79% on the sac fly. After Jones was thrown out at home, Baltimore now has a 52% chance of winning.
That’s some swing. But scoring 5 runs to even up the game will do that.
Wow. Fail (not epic, but fail) by the bullpen to blow the game for Halladay. Awww.
All we need is a RF bat to replace Swisher and we’re good
Posada coming back soon.
i have huff on my fantasy team & he was up???
darn.
Randy: I don’t have any problem with any discussion on here and I am happy Sam asked Eiland the question and applauded you for your part in helping that happen. I only brought up this topic in the previous thread because murphydog (an astute commenter) had an incorrect impression based on remarks of yours that you now say you didn’t really believe in.
And I have never called you stupid.
halladay can’t win right????
“Next, it will be the usual whining about the lineup. Then, if they are down in the second inning, its the call for mass firings.”
And before all that, between, and after that it will be SJ whining about the whiners and the 10-year old know-nothings, over and over and over.
Sorry SJ, you’re wise, but as predictable.
When is Cashman going to fix the bullpen?
Everday Phil Coke, Aceves,and Tomko are not the answers
If we have a lead late tonight, who pitches? Veras?
m -
i need nick in sf to oppose me to highlight my beliefs.
how could i have made livan a blog legend without nick?
we’re good in the end , but in the middle we’re not kidding .
we really do piss each other off
Tampa can’t win without a bullpen. The only reason why they won last year was because of their starters didn’t miss a turn and their bullpen was lights out.
Now, Kazmir is on the DL, Sonnestine and Shields are struggling, Edwin Jackson is in Detroit and their bullpen is worse than the Yankees.
They don’t fix it, they aren’t going to be a factor.
The biggest disappointment on the Toronto team has been the failure of Alex Rios to move into the elite category. after a breakout year on’07, he has slid backwards, hard and fast. He has enormous talent, but, he just can’t get it going…..except against the Yankees. That is one player, though that I’d love to see NYY make a run at.
the bullpen will get fixed.
it nobody steps up cashman will make a big trade.count on it.
he said he will give this team all the resources to win.
trust in him to do this.
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
WOW. Markakis doubles to tie the game and Rios throws out Jones at the plat trying to score from first for the third out. Not even close. Huff was on deck. Stupid base running.
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I guess Toronto needs to put Halladay in the pen to be the 8th inning bridge.
As predicable as the whiners because I refuse to have them take over this place and turn it into a sewer. As they did earlier in the year.
If folks don’t like it, too bad. Talk interesting and logical baseball, and its all good. Act like idiots, you get called out. That’s how it going to be.
Its already cut the whining down a lot. If more of the regulars do the same, it will cut it out almost all together.
Wow, I seem to remember last year when Baltimore was actually leading the division for a while before fading away.
Looks like Toronto is doing the same thing.
randy, I’m seriously not pissed off and you’re one of my favorites on the blog. But what was accomplished on Sunday was the puncuring of a LoHud blog myth that you helped create. There is no reason to believe that anything discussed on here had anything to do with fixing or moving towards fixing or attempting to fix Wang.
Tampa won last year because they had extraordinary health from their starting pitchers and everyone in their pen pitched way above their career numbers.
They have the talent to win but not the depth. Boston and New York are more talented teams and more likely to make the playoffs.
randy l -
I will say that I pay a lot more attention to Livan than I ever would have had you not shoved him down our throats!!
MaineYankee
May 27th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
WOW. Markakis doubles to tie the game and Rios throws out Jones at the plat trying to score from first for the third out. Not even close. Huff was on deck. Stupid base running.
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I guess Toronto needs to put Halladay in the pen to be the 8th inning bridge.
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Thanks a lot, you bum. I just spit Coca-Cola all over my computer.
I hope Toronto loses this game and are swept, that means by the time they play Boston starting Friday they should be due to win at least a couple in that series or they will continue this monstrous slide. Hope they lose here today, then sweep Bahstan.
bh for huff in the ninth no outs
Tampa has Garza and Shields who are doing well and 3 unknowns
We have Sabathia, 3 unknowns, and Andy.
Neither team has a bullpen but atleast we have Mariano.
They have Kazmir on the DL, we have Wang on the DL. Both have great offenses.
Tampa and the Yankees are more evenly matched than one might think. They’re staying in the race and keeping it close all year.
“Thanks a lot, you bum. I just spit Coca-Cola all over my computer.”
Ya right GB….like anyone here is believing that it was Coca-Cola unless Coke has a new product called Coors Lite!!
ray (sox fan)
May 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Wow, I seem to remember last year when Baltimore was actually leading the division for a while before fading away.
Looks like Toronto is doing the same thing.
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In exactly the same way, too.
I left you a response to your previous post in last thread and here at 3:53.
the rays do not have the financial resources to cover injuries.
they will not duplicate 08.
very little injuries last year with a great pen.
not happening this year.
The Rays can always make Wade Davis a closer or used their stacked farm system to go out and get some relief help
Folks may not want to admit it, but they will be a threat. We should be burying them now before they get hot. They play us 4 games next week and they already swept us at home2 games.
ray (sox fan)
May 27th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
“Thanks a lot, you bum. I just spit Coca-Cola all over my computer.”
Ya right GB….like anyone here is believing that it was Coca-Cola unless Coke has a new product called Coors Lite!!
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OK, Ray. If you’re going to harass me and pick a fight, the gloves are off. I’ll just have to whip out the heavy artillery. Nah, not that….the insults at 20 paces..
All the people who don’t like Francesa, why do you listen/watch his show? Find something better to do with your time.
SJ44
What would you do with this bullpen? It is mediocre except for Mo. Do you think Robertson will step up?
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
MaineYankee
May 27th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
WOW. Markakis doubles to tie the game and Rios throws out Jones at the plat trying to score from first for the third out. Not even close. Huff was on deck. Stupid base running.
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I guess Toronto needs to put Halladay in the pen to be the 8th inning bridge.
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Thanks a lot, you bum. I just spit Coca-Cola all over my computer.
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I couldn’t resist. Just went along with the dumb conversation from Francessa.
GB7
I just figured out who you are. The diet coke gave it away.
here’s hoping Girardi does not have Tomko higher up the depth chart than Robertson
Tampa had the offense, but, not to spare. They are dependent on infield defense and they just lost their second baseman for the year and their shortstop fot at least two weeks. For all of his talents, Upton has been an offensive disaster so far.
Does our old friend Chad Moller get sent down on Friday when Matt Wieters comes up or are they carrying 3 catchers which I cant imagine they are
How’s Melancon doing since he’s been back in AAA?
Very few teams could recover from the spate of injuries Tampa has.
In addition to Kazmir, they are missing their SS, 2B, LF and innumerable role playing relievers.
The fact is, they are doing surprisingly well considering. The Yanks would certainly be challenged if we were missing as many players as Tampa is.
randy l,
You can talk about Livan all day, but personally I’m so over the Wang blog conspiracy bunk theory thing-a-ma-jig.
Cashman brought Wang here out of desperation obviously, but he must have felt that facing ML hitters might do Wang some good and Eliand could watch him closely in pressure-free situations and fix whatever is wrong with him mechanically.
If Wang doesn’t get fixed, it is Eliand’s fault more than it is Cashman’s. What good is dominating the minors going to do for Wang?
“Its already cut the whining down a lot.”
Well, not on your end. That remains. I’m glad you regard yourself as a policing force but I doubt you do more than incite the people you call stupid.
I like your insight, the rest is for the birds. There are people with strong opinions who may not know as much about baseball. I would hope they don’t feel discouraged to comment. And it seems doubtful that the “idiots” will take over here, I don’t fear that. People getting slammed here for being critical is a joke.
I really hope it’s Posada for Cash this weekend and not Cervelli.
Not to be a prospect hugger or anything, but I like Cervelli and what he’s brought to the team.
I really hope we don’t keep Cash because he’s out of options over Cervelli.
Cash looks pretty mediocre and if guys like Moeller are going to hit the wire soon in Baltimore, Cash is easily replaced.
All the people who don’t like Francesa, why do you listen/watch his show?
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For me, I get a good laugh out of his crazy ramblings. Crazy people are sometimes funny
If Toronto wins this game, it would be a gut check win for them. They would also salvage this road trip instead of it being a complete disaster
MaineYankee
May 27th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
MaineYankee
May 27th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
WOW. Markakis doubles to tie the game and Rios throws out Jones at the plat trying to score from first for the third out. Not even close. Huff was on deck. Stupid base running.
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I guess Toronto needs to put Halladay in the pen to be the 8th inning bridge.
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Thanks a lot, you bum. I just spit Coca-Cola all over my computer.
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I couldn’t resist. Just went along with the dumb conversation from Francessa.
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Oh, God….I couldn’t be him. I’d cut my own throat before that happened, and I couldn’t drink Diet Coke. I’m strictly a main-liking hard core straight coke drinker. None of that sissy stuff.
I wonder if he realizes that drinking 4 gallons of diet Coke a day isn’t going to help him lose weight.
“People getting slammed here for being critical is a joke.”
agree 100%
tampa has no closer. sonnastine is worse then any of our present starters..
there offense is not as good as ours either, watch over the season.. we have moe good hitters then tampa………..
I’m strictly a ***main-lining*** hard core
Wade Davis has no experience yet. EVERY young pitcher, even Joba and David Price, has to go through growing pains.
They aren’t going to be able to solve their issues through their farm system.
Shields isn’t pitching well. Only Garza is pitching well in the rotation.
Injuries are killing their depth and they aren’t going to spend a lot of money taking on contracts to fix it.
They have a good team but, they have the kind of issues that can derail them.
Rose,
At this point, anybody they can find who can help will get a shot. I hope Robertson can help because it would take a lot of pressure off the other guys if he can help out.
Time will tell if he can.
LOL Francesa vs. Alex from Bedminster was classic
Hope that goes on Youtube soon
It would not surprise me at all if the Yanks DFA’d Berroa when Posada is activated and went with 3 catchers until they are sure of Posada or Nady can come back.
Not saying that’s what I want, but it would not surprise me.
On the other hand, Berroa’s leading a charmed life…
they should waive Cash, cervelli has earned a few more weeks on the big club…
if they lose Cash on waivers who gives a crap..cervelli at 23 has shown some signs of being a legit major leaguer….
Outfielder Xavier Nady and infielder Cody Ransom also took part in the extended spring game as designated hitters. Nady went 1 for 3 with a walk. Ransom hit a long homer off Humberto Sanchez and walked twice.
nice.
Sweeny Murti on Francesa right now. He may or may not have some info on the Yanks.
posada,nady,molina back soon.
if only bruney & marte can get back
WYH,
Please. We’ve had more than our share of injuries this season and last.
Basically, Upton’s off to a slow start coming off the DL. And their starting pitching hasn’t delivered like last season. And they didn’t build their bullpen properly. They chose not to improve the club in any significant way. Adding Pat Burrell was a “big” move, but one analyst called it early in the season saying that Tampa Bay was going to pay for failing to upgrade their club as the Yankees and even the Red Sox had made improvements.
“LOL Francesa vs. Alex from Bedminster was classic
Hope that goes on Youtube soon”
If it does, somebody please post it.
Terrible lineup
Where is Cervelli? The guy plays a great game yesterday and they play Cash who is an automatic out?
And why is Swisher in there? Last night’s disaster wasn’t enough to get him on the bench?
I wonder what goes through Girardi’s head when he makes these lineups.
Back to Joba….give me a break Mike!!!
Nobody is being slammed for being critical here.
Being critical isn’t the issue. Talking nonsensical gibberish such as, “CC is and Tex are wasted signings”, “Wang is finished”, “If they don’t do well on this roadtrip, the season is over”, is nonsense.
If folks want to post it, back it up.
If challenging those comments mean folks won’t post here, fine by me. We can all use a few less idiots in here.
Nobody is stopping criticism. We all can be critical of the team.
What some of us are doing is stopping the moron talk. If folks post it, back it up. Very simple.
Pete should at least take a look at AJ’s game log- except for the Boston and Philly games, he has not been bad. He’s kept the team in games….I don’t care about his won/loss record.
Why is Cash playing again?
Let’s hope 789 does some damage.
m: are we supposed to be swapping recipes or something?
I don’t get it.
And why is Swisher in there? Last night’s disaster wasn’t enough to get him on the bench?
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Well that didn’t take long. Here come the criticism of Girardi’s lineup.
Going to play Matsui in the outfield? What’s your plan on how to sit Swisher? THINK before you judge his lineup.
“LOL Francesa vs. Alex from Bedminster was classic
Hope that goes on Youtube soon”
Why was it so good?
Very few teams could recover from the spate of injuries Tampa has.
In addition to Kazmir, they are missing their SS, 2B, LF and innumerable role playing relievers.
The fact is, they are doing surprisingly well considering. The Yanks would certainly be challenged if we were missing as many players as Tampa is.
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The Yankees are in 2nd having 2nd & 3rd string at third, 3rd & 4th string at catcher, missing Wang, Bruney & Marte from the pen, backup in right. I think that is more of a loss but just my opinion.
Porcello wins his sixth game of the year for Detroit.
How do you take Swisher out of the lineup when Melky is hurt?
Who plays RF/
Rather than whining, think a little bit. They don’t have a spare OF tonight because Melky is hurt. Hence, Swisher is in the lineup.
Burnett needs Molina to pitch well
When “Josey” comes back, he will turn it around.
m-
By mentioning Tampa’s injuries, I wasn’t making light of our own.
But losing your 2B, SS and LF simultaneously is tough. We lost our 3B and RF, and it was very tough. Imagine if we had lost Jeter or Cano on top of it. We were fortunate the Posada and ARod injuries did not coincide (much).
Porcello is very impressive
The guy is a 20 yr old who didn’t even pitch above Single-A, and he already has 6 wins in the AL and an ERA in the mid 3s.
Wish we could develop talent like that.
““LOL Francesa vs. Alex from Bedminster was classic”
MikeFrancesa.com should have it
Looking at those Burnett stats that Pete posted, it’s funny that people are complaining about Joba…. AJ has been much more of a problem than Joba has.
Well, when Gardner was hurt, people were demanding that Swisher sit.
So at least this blog is consistent!
Swisher must be the luckiest S.O.B. around, he lucked out when Nady got hurt and got far more playing time than he would have ever dreamed of achieving, as present results demonstrate, now when Brett Gardner is playing a little better and would have probably started instead of him tonight, Melky gets banged up and so Swisher is still in there to hit into his DP’s, K’s while stranding a small island.
“LOL Francesa vs. Alex from Bedminster was classic
Hope that goes on Youtube soon”
If it does, somebody please post it.
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http://mikedup.50.forumer.com/.....5&t=9
Scroll down, someone has the mp3 of it available for download
Burnett is 3rd in the league in walks and has given up 10 HRs
He does that against Texas tonight, we will see plenty of Wang.
Nick,
Fair enough. Forget I said anything. Please?
i am quietly optimistic that Cash gets DFA’d. They could always recall Stewart from Scranton if Posada reinjures himself.
Scor,
A lot of it is luck. The Yanks were lucky when Joba fell to them. The Tigers were lucky when Porcello fell to them. He was a guy who fell because of his contract demands. The tigers drafted him a spot or two before the Yanks were going to pick. Good job by the Tigers…bad luck for the Yanks.
I’m listening to that call again. LOL
Classic
Can’t say we weren’t well aware and warned of AJ Burnett and his tendencies to look like a mule’s behind at numerous points over the season. Roy Halladay he isn’t. He should be performing far much better than this mediocre sh!te he is perpetrating. I just don’t get it.
Francessa refers to Burnett as “Mr. Pie in the Face” and said if we wanted a baker, we could have gotten one for less than $82 million lol
He said he has no problem with the pies though.
y26.
so you are saying that the only way burnett pitches well is with molina.
now we have to sign molina for 4 years.
hogwash.
m: in this particular case I will do as you wish.
“Burnett needs Molina to pitch well; When “Josey” comes back, he will turn it around.”
This is nonsense. If this were true, AJ should give the Yankees their money back and go pitch for someone else. It’s not the catcher’s fault that AJ can’t locate his pitches.
francessa is a smart guy. he knows what to say because most of his listeners don’t understand how sports works. so he’s feeding on the weak.
ny fans are not the smartest – that’s a pure myth. we’re just the most knee jerk fools who think we deserve everything. and fatboy is serving up that BS on a spoon….
What exactly did Burnett learn from Halladay? He was a two pitch pitcher with mediocre control before Toronto and after Toronto. He also got injured twice in Toronto and stayed healthy in his (gasp) contract year.
Was Halladay the one who taught him how to throw pies? Because clearly he didn’t learn any pitching tips from him lol
Hill homers 10-8 toronto
I love how people are getting ticked off at Francessa for the pie comments
Mike is laughing as he is saying it. He isin’t saying it in a ranting manner. He’s just having some fun. You have to admit– it is pretty funny.
http://cid-f93444f7eee11094.sk.....ocious.mp3
Alex from Bedmister, on behalf of LOHUD.. THANK YOU
“There is no reason to believe that anything discussed on here had anything to do with fixing or moving towards fixing or attempting to fix Wang.”
all kidding aside. are you saying reporters in general have no effect when they ask questions ?
marty miller was replaced when the questions became too embarrassing . arod was put on the hot seat by reporters asking questions. i really think the more the yankees are questioned about wang the better.
reporters asking questions is a process. it’s not the reporter’s job to make the yankees better, but when they ask questions like they did when marty miller was disabling the team with hamstring pulls, it can have that effect of making the team better.
putting a news spotlight on wang will help. if eiland and cashman are asked constantly asked about him it can only help. it’s also interesting too. people can learn a lot if they follow what’s going on with wang.
sam borden asked a good question. eiland gave a good answer. what we need is that process repeated enough that the issue eventually gets solved.
i guess i’m saying the press has some clout because they can put a spotlight on an issue.
this spotlight can cause the people in charge to do a better job solving the problem.
“Alex from Bedmister, on behalf of LOHUD.. THANK YOU ”
I just heard it. Pretty funny. I like how no one has ever heard of Porcello. LOL!
God…this should be fun. BJ Ryan is closing a 10-8 game in Baltimore.
“What some of us are doing is stopping the moron talk. If folks post it, back it up. Very simple.”
Everybody stop. The Baseball God has spoken.
Randy, unless you work with the guys on River Ave Blues..you weren’t the first guy to notice his arm slot. They did a great piece on him after the FIRST day he pitched, the second game of the year.
I’m suprised no one has brought it up before to Eiland to tell you the truth. That whole time Eiland was saying wang had to carry his bullpen into a game, the real problem was his arm slot and his mechanics. Even MLB network notcied the difference in his mechanics, he is too upright now compared to last year.
Bottom line is he is completely muffed up and worse, Wang thinks he’s fine. You can’t fix what you don’t see
GB I know
Wow, they didn’t even let Ryan finish the inning. How far has that guy fallen? I remember when he was the closer for BAL.
Ryan gives up a single and a popup and gets lifted. Three years ago, this would not have happened.
“Yuuuse is a starting pitcher!!”
“ANDY PETTITTE IS A STARTING PITCHER!!!”
Wow, that was amazing
Damon 10th for outfielder voting?
“You can talk about Livan all day, but personally I’m so over the Wang blog conspiracy bunk theory thing-a-ma-jig.”
m-
one thing you’re not over is losing your #2 pitcher.
wang isn’t in the mess he’s in by himself. he was a pitcher created by coaching.
and now he’s a pitcher being controlled by people who really don’t seem to know what to do with him.
conspiracy is too strong a word,but clearly the yankees decision making process with wang is having a negative effect on him.
“all kidding aside. are you saying reporters in general have no effect when they ask questions ?”
Of course not. Did you ask that because you wanted me to bust out the Straw Man link again?
What I’m saying is that you might have engaged in some, ahem, revisionist history in your discussion of this matter.
I only commented as I did in the previous thread to help murphydog. Doesn’t anyone but me care about helping murphydog?
Anybody have any news on Melky? I know the X-rays were negative, but wasn’t he supposed to have an MRI today?
We may only have 2 all-stars this year… Jeter and Rivera.
Brandon “Phil Hughes does not shake hands after 8 IP ”
May 27th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
““LOL Francesa vs. Alex from Bedminster was classic”
MikeFrancesa.com should have it
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Alex from Bedminster must have slipped through the screen.
You should hear him when Steve from Bayside gets ahold of him.
Any caller with even a remote baseball IQ will be cut off, if not pre-empted.
Lol.
And I’m glad I missed it.
I didn’t know that. NYY needs to get Luke scott from Baltimore. He has three career homers off of Halladay.
10-9 TOR
Zach in Port Jeff (in Quebec…where they are both dull AND obnoxious)
May 27th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Anybody have any news on Melky? I know the X-rays were negative, but wasn’t he supposed to have an MRI today?
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A report would be nice.
Quebec once had the Stastny brothers and Michel Goulet to offer. That’s nothing to sneeze at.
“I didn’t know that. NYY needs to get Luke scott from Baltimore. He has three career homers off of Halladay.”
I’m sure that BAL would trade him to us….if we send them Joba or Hughes.
“Randy, unless you work with the guys on River Ave Blues..you weren’t the first guy to notice his arm slot.”
DB-
i never said i was and linked on the blog to river ave blues constantly to back up what my eyes saw.
i’ve been a longtime critic of the yankees pushing wang’s
secondary pitches . this criticism goes back two years.
Toronto pen dangerously close to blowing the game in extra innings.
i cant find the link???
my boy porcello won again.
Wow!! TOR lost again.
I’m listening to the Alex in Bedminster call it’s hilarious
i know it is ealy but they are comparing him to halladay & verlander.
has 4 great pitches.
Randy you give way too much credit to this blog and a question Sam asked…There are many many things fans will never know until someone writes a book about it. Sam didn’t tell Eiland anything he didn’t already know.
We can speculate what the problem is sure. My speculation is that the language barrier is precluding the advice from the staff telling Wang that his mechanics are off. Wang, thinks he is fine and just needs to pitch. IS that right? There are only a handfull of people who know. And NONE of us are a part of that group.
wow game over O’s win
Reinold hits a walkoff 3 run homer. 9 game losing streak.
Walk-off homer for the Orioles! HA!
Toronto just lost, woohoo, hope they sweep Bahstan.
lol toronto is sinking faster than the titanic…reimold ftw
12-10 O’s. The jays lost their swagger
TOR should be ashamed of themselves. They cannot lose games that Halladay starts. There’s just no excuse for that.
Did baltimore really just in that game???
B’MORE ENDS THE GAME WITH A WALK-OFF HR!!!
Baltimore wins 12-10 waghhhh…..
in = win
Bodhi, I miss the Nordiques immensely. Quebec City has never been the same.
At least the beer hasn’t changed.
“ANDY PETTITTE IS A STARTING PITCHER!!”
So is Joba, Mike.
Correction: ***Reimold*** hits a walkoff 3 run homer
>Did baltimore really just in that game???
Brian Wolfe accidentally the lead.
Wow, that was a brutal loss for Toronto with Halladay going you gotta end that streak, ouch.
Now all I need is for Matsusucka, to pitch his usual 5 innings,5 walks tonight and hope Minnesota light him up.
Laura – Win together, strike out alone!
May 27th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
“Alex from Bedmister, on behalf of LOHUD.. THANK YOU ”
I just heard it. Pretty funny. I like how no one has ever heard of Porcello. LOL!
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Well, considering he recently pitched against us, it’s kind of odd. But Francesa didn’t even know who Chamberlain was, and he was a YANKEE prospect. I recall him hanging up on a caller who said “Joba’s the next great thing.”
He does no research whatsoever. That’s nothing new – even for sportswriters. They never know who the top prospects are, and their newspapers don’t have a minor leagues or amateur guy to focus on that stuff.
francesca is so dumb hahaha
Reimhold has some kind of power. He’s going to be tough to deal with over the years.
is there another link to Alex in Bedminster- Brandon’s won’t work for me.
Pete and LoHud owe Wang and Fracessca a commission for today
DB: thanks, what you’re saying is very wise.
And, randy, while I disagree with you about some of the surface noise, I agree about the big picture stuff: getting Wang fixed is of paramount importance and if they can’t do it and/or have screwed him up for whatever reason, heads should roll.
Hey all.
Yesterday’s loss was no big deal. Game 2 of a three game series, with game one already won. So?
Today is big. We lose, we’re on another post winning streak slide.
Yesterday was also disappointing because we finally had a chance to tie for first, but once again Boston leads it’s merry little charmed life.
Sound bitter? It is. Has been since 04′. But seriously, I think this is our year.
As soon as Melky’s well, get Swishy out.
Wow, I just listened to that interview…Fatcessa lost his (large) head. He is an absolute nutjob. No wonder I don’t listen to him anymore.
***Reimold*** has
Easy name to spell….for some people.
Unfortuately for me. I’m not some people. Typing is not my friend.
Tough to lose a game twice like that.
But it only helps us. And the fact that Cito makes no bones about hating the Yankees makes it even better.
Uncle Ellsworth, try this one
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xa6hdo
Joba had a bad start. Happens. You can’t take that start and use it as conclusive evidence he’s a bad pitcher. That’s ridiculous. Every pitcher has bad starts.
By the way, the sooner we trade for/buy bullpen guys the better. In losses, our achilles heel, the bullpen, really starts to show.
Meanwhile, our young guys have started to turn the non-bench into something that will be an asset if we start getting healthy.
” Doesn’t anyone but me care about helping murphydog? ”
nick in sf-
i actually noticed that murpheydog had it a little wrong there, but before i could say anything some buttinsky from san francisco took me off on a tangent
the fact is we can reach yankee ears with our questions if they are good enough questions.
i think the discussion about wang has been at a high level on the blog from all sides of the issue and that’s why it got to eiland from sam about the arm angle. sam wasn’t going to ask about arm angles on his own.he said as much himself .
eiland is on record now that the arm angle will drop as wang gets his lower body in sync with his upper body. that’s a start. if that arm angle stays up there another month, he’s going to have to answer what’s up with the arm angle.
i emailed the link to my phone (no sound at work). hope it works on a blackberry…
go yanks!
Uncle E:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xa6hdo
“We may only have 2 all-stars this year… Jeter and Rivera.”
CC and Damon will probably make a run at it.
LOL, the Nats designated Daniel Cabrera and their acting GM Mike Rizzo stated,”I was tired of watching him.”
Ouch, funny how Cabrera always looked like a stud against us.
Oops, Brandon hooked you up.
I’m gonna listen to it again. Too funny
baltimore has numerous good young players.. weiters, jones,reimhold, and numerous supposed good arms…the problem is depth. ss, 3b, etc….but they should be improved..
man toronto is in a total tailspin….
I always knew Toronto wasn’t for real.
Where are all the idiot sports guys who jumped on the bandwagon?
People need to realize that what the Rays did is extraordinarily rare, almost unique. You also need to remember tha Tampa was improving and slated to win by Baseball Prospectus 90 games last year. Toronto was getting worse.
http://cid-f93444f7eee11094.sk.....ocious.mp3
“Wow, I just listened to that interview…Fatcessa lost his (large) head. He is an absolute nutjob. No wonder I don’t listen to him anymore.”
I got to hand it to Alex IDK how he got through, usually Fatcessa’s show has callers w/ no baseball IQ like Lisa, Bruce and a few others at times Stuart from w/e
Ironically, Reimold pinch hit for some earlier and killed two rallies.
Nice redemption there.
2 all stars? We’ll have Jeet, Rivera, Damon, and Melky on the all star team. And Cano. Can’t forget Cano.
bah.
Barca! Barca! Barccccaaa!
LOL @ Toronto’s bullpen, if I were one of those guys I’d be hiding from Roy Halladay for a few days. The Cy Young Award this year is probably going to come down to which starter can most often convince his manager to not use the team’s horrible bullpen.
I have to say I was surprised Pete was the only NYY writer that wrote an article for today questioning Wang’s non-use last night in an obvious long relief situation when that was the question on everyone’s mind. Kudos to him.
“Where’s the dominant start ! 6 innings 1 ER, 5 innings 1 ER, 5 innings 1 ER…. 3.97 ERA”
ROFL !
Thanks guys!
Vote Tex into the All Star game this year. Yankees fans need to vote this year to get proper representation. Cano being 4th of 2B and Tex 3rd, even Damon 11th of all outfielders is bad. Jeter crushing at SS at least. I mean Damon trails Ellsbury and Nelson Cruz !!!!!
Zach in Port Jeff (in Quebec…where they are both dull AND obnoxious)
May 27th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Bodhi, I miss the Nordiques immensely. Quebec City has never been the same.
At least the beer hasn’t changed.
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People think Yanks-Red Sox is nuts; how about Nords-Habs? Crazy times, and what a beautiful skating team that was. I’m a Penguins fan, but I cried when they wrenched that team from Quebec. Mais, Je me souviens!
All-time classic Anton quotes: (I think the first one was by Anton, any way):
1). “Let them win, so long as we get out alive,” Anton to Marian Stastny during Canada Cup ( vs. Canadians, of course).
2). Anton musing about how to become a “real” Canadian hockey player:
“I look in the paper and I see I have so many goals, so many assists. Fine. But I do not have any penalties.
What kind of Canadian hockey player has no PIM?
So last night I am out on the ice, and I am slashing at somebody; but the referee – he doesn’t see.”
Brandon, thanks for posting the link to the Alex from Bedminster call. That was a classic. I never realized how bad Mike is. Also, saying how no one has never heard of Porcello when he’s from NJ the part of the state in WFAN’s listening area is comical.
Austin Jackson’s first at bat in the double header, was a one out triple. They couldn’t score him.
My favorite paart about this team: We’re the Yankees again.
You know, the Yankees? The never say die, never quit, never out of a game, strike fear New York Yankees.
We’re not quite there yet. But we’re getting there.
We NEED a bullpen, though. Need it.
Bodhi-I believe it was Sports Illustrated that called Yanks-Sox best rivalry in all of sports around the world in Sports history.
Can’t argue.
haha Francessa is talking American Idol now!!
So the All=Star team will be
1B – Youkallis
2B – Kinsler
3B – Longoria
SS – Jeter
LF – Bay
CF – Ichiro
RF – Hamilton
C – Mauer
P – Greinke
P – Halladay
P – Weaver
P – Jackson
P – Burhlee
CL – Rivera, Papelbon, Nathan, Jenks
Reserves – Cabrera (1B), Pedroia (2B), Young (3B), Bartlett (SS), Martinez (C), Griffey, Markakis, Crawford (OFs)
Randy,
There was good reason why the Yankees were pushing Wang’s secondary pitches. His K/9 was abysmal and he had no out pitch when he needed it. I can think of only one person in this game who built a career on one pitch and that pitch is of the swing and miss variety.
Joe I , I know , no one has heard of Porcello, no one ! apparently he’s an unknown like that lefty for Tampa Bay
But srsly where’s the dominant start than he finishes saying 3.97 ERA ROFL !!
I just listened to the Alex thing. How dare Francesa treat a listener like that. He doesn’t even listen.
But I can’t shut it off. How can I shut it off??? I’m serious. I can’t stop francesa ‘s rant Help!!!
wow ajax is ops’ing over 900 now..and thats with 0 homers…thats cool
“Randy you give way too much credit to this blog and a question Sam asked…There are many many things fans will never know until someone writes a book about it. Sam didn’t tell Eiland anything he didn’t already know.”
DB-
i don’t think that sam told eiland something he didn’t already know. what he did do was ask a good question and got a good answer.
now as the process continues sam or pete or another reporter can ask why wang’s arm angle isn’t changing over time if it indeed doesn’t change.
that’s progress.
i think there is a back and forth with pete and the blog that influences both sides and will probably help peter stay with the times as the new journalism world emerges. i think the blog can get to the yankees ear sometimes. not often, but sometimes
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Austin Jackson’s first at bat in the double header, was a one out triple. They couldn’t score him.
And you said he wasn’t ready for the Bronx.
I finally figured out how to stop the insanity.
Antones-Got to stick Cano in there somehow.
Wow, lots of good choices this year.
I am not here
May 27th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
2 all stars? We’ll have Jeet, Rivera, Damon, and Melky on the all star team. And Cano. Can’t forget Cano.
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Cabrera and Cano won’t get the votes. Cano would have to beat out Hill, Pedroia and Kinsler. Truth is, Jeter should be behind Bartlett, based on numbers. Cabrera doesn’t have a chance of making the All Star team.
Q: what did murphydog need help wit?
Was he “outgunned and outnumbered under the banner”?
Did anyone pie Reimold?
Yanks/Sox is good…really good…but tame in comparison to what used to be Nords/Habs.
Glasgow Ranger v. Celtic is another good one that I’ve had the pleasure of attending in person before.
Yanks/Sox needs to ratchet up the fan violence to restore the old glory of this rivarly. What do you say guys, anyone up for some Sox fan fightin’ under the O’neil Banner?
“the Nats designated Daniel Cabrera and their acting GM Mike Rizzo stated,”I was tired of watching him.”
I hope some loyal Nationals fans have pointed out to their acting GM that Cabrera was trying to best that he can!
GreenBeret7-As reseves? Maybe.
Cano can go on another insane hot streak and there you go.
As for Melky, well, maybe, maybe not. He’s playing really well.
“There was good reason why the Yankees were pushing Wang’s secondary pitches. His K/9 was abysmal and he had no out pitch when he needed it.”
DB-
i respectively disagree that wang needed to change anything. he won 38 games in two years with primarily one pitch.
maybe had the yankees not pushed the secondary pitches with thinking like yours , wang would have his nasty sinker still and be a dominant pitcher like he was .
A-Rod will probably edge out Michael Young for the reserve 3B spot.
But yeah, we’re probably going to have 3 All-stars only.
CC is still a ways behind some of the other starters in the AL in ERA and only has 4 wins.
Who decides the reserves? The players/coaches right?
If so, I don’t see any way they choose A-Rod
They probably won’t vote Tex over Cabrera or Morneau either.
Zach-Back in 04, I remember riots…ifhgts…some deaths…
In intense and important games, we can get pretty bad.
Verlander probably gets in before Jackson from Detroit. He had a bad beginning of the season but the last month he’s been better than Greinke.
ifghts=fights.
I am not here
May 27th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
2 all stars? We’ll have Jeet, Rivera, Damon, and Melky on the all star team. And Cano. Can’t forget Cano.
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That’s a great sentiment, but they won’t get there by themselves. You’ve got to pull the trigger. And re-pull it, and re-pull it.
Other teams are shamelessly proactive – they beg their fans during games to stuff the ballot box with the hometown boys.
The Yankee fan is too cavalier. I’m just as bad; I have a zillion of these things and never do anything with them.
There’s no way Cano and Melky make it without our help.
I don’t really care who’s on the all-star team. I figure Jeter will make it. Would be nice if Cano made it, too.
What really matters is the result of the game. As long as there’s an AL win, the pomp and circus-dance doesn’t mean much to me.
Are they carrying extra pitchers this year for the ASG after the 15 inning debacle of no pitchers left last year?
Yankees really do have the most passionate fanbase in baseball. You can tell by looking at the Yankee website message boards and by looking at the rival lohud blogs (w/Yanks Sox, anyway).
bodhi, you’re right; let’s campaign.
Teixeira will probably get more votes now that he’s heating up. The slow start hurt him. I’m sure A-Rod will get more votes now, too. I think a lot of people were hesitant to vote for him because they didn’t know how he’d be coming off hip surgery. But I don’t think he’ll catch up to Longoria. Although Manny’s numbers show that voters don’t care so much about the steroids thing as I thought they would.
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
May 27th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Austin Jackson’s first at bat in the double header, was a one out triple. They couldn’t score him.
And you said he wasn’t ready for the Bronx.
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I know that I should stop posting his at bats, because it just makes the “I want AJax” faction to go into a feeding frenzy. My guess is that 95% of them wouldn’t know him if he slaped them upside the head, much less seen him play. The nice thing is, that he’s adjusted his swing, but still chases breaking pitches way too much.
As I typed this, he hits a bullet right at the third baseman. The great thing about the triple was that it was in the right center field gap on a breaking pitch.
A-Rod doesn’t deserve to make it.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s done a world of difference since being back, but he needs to hit that 300 mark with the batting avg. before I look at him and say “all star”.
It would be pretty embarrassing if we only have 2 or 3 all-stars.
We’re the New York Yankees. The beat franchise in the sport. We have the best players. In the past, we used to rule All-Star games. We should send atleast 7 or 8 guys.
Didn’t the Sux and Cubs send 7 guys each last year?
Maybe the waiters offer a ballot-stuffing service to the patrons of the Legends seats.
The coaches are not going to pick A-Rod over Michael Young.
Young has better stats than A-Rod and doesn’t have the steroid cloud hanging over him.
Teixeria over Cabrera/Morneau will be close. Teix is going to have to stay hot.
I’d rather the Yanks got the one token player that is required from every team. The vote is just a popularity vote anyway. For me, I’d rather see the Yankees who may deserve to be on the team not get picked and take the time off and rest for the long haul over the second half of the season.
“It would be pretty embarrassing if we only have 2 or 3 all-stars.”
Didn’t the ’96 Yanks have NO “all-stars”?
how did an allstar team help us in the past???
not much.
i can care less as long as we win.
i am more concerned about trading for a reliever & or outfielder.
In the end, who cares? My NY Giants had one pro bowler their super bowl year, and they did pretty well (back of course in 07′).
I am not here
May 27th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
bodhi, you’re right; let’s campaign.
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I’m in, but my carpal tunnel is gonna start barking after writing Melky in a zillion times; he’s not on there, Gardner is.
A bunch of these are in a pile next to Yankee giveaways in the corner, lol.
Randy, Wang’s mechanics are off because he tore the crap out of his foot. It has nothing to do with his secondary pitches. In fact, his k/9 was improving from 06 to 08
06 3.14
07 4.70
08 5.12
While the right questions by our beloved beat reporters keeps us in the know, I find it extremely hard to believe it changes anything the Yanks will do.
No Boggs and Pettitte were there.
Thanks for getting the joke GB.
I for one can wait til sept. Melky and the wall was a little scary though.
If Gardy’s the guy on the ballot, I’ll start now; Write in Melky campaign, starting here!
Ken Griffey is hitting .226
Hamilton is hitting .250
Sizemore is hitting .230
Ichiro has 14 RBIs and 7 steals
Fan voting is the biggest joke ever
Hey bodhi, you know you can vote over the internet, right?
i am more concerned about trading for a reliever & or outfielder.
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As far as I can tell, stuffing ballots and being concerned about acquiring relief and outfield help aren’t mutually exclusive.
It’s nice for the players – it gives the ones who haven’t been an experience, allows them to be in the spotlight in a different way, etc. Can’t see anything negative about our guys going.
“In the past, we used to rule All-Star games. We should send atleast 7 or 8 guys.”
That was when Joe Torre picked the team.
Melk could get in on the last spot between 5 guys thats voted in by the internet.
Thats the spot the Yanks were campaigning for the Stache
It’s even on YouTube ! although the short version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhYbnZ7XlU
We need more than A reliever. We need relieverS.
Sorry I’m a little last, but can anyone post a good link to link to Fanny blow up.. it’d really help me get through studying for my physics final haha.
I am not here
May 27th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Hey bodhi, you know you can vote over the internet, right?
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Yeah, I guess I’m a traditionalist. The world of the tactile still attracts
Gardner should be on the Leadership Qualities All-Star team.
francessa just had a caller wanting joba in the pen..
francessa let him talk all the way through without interupting him & at the end said bingo.
funny stuff.
francessa has to also realize that with the money pitchers make teams are not going to scrap the pitch count.
i understand letting a pitcher pitch but a 150 count outing is rediculous.
he also thinks joba will be in the pen by the allstar game.
If you go to Yankees.com, they’re wallpaper, or whatever you call it, does have “Vote Yankees” or something like that all over the place. But, no, they don’t push it like other teams do.
Unfortunately, if you’re a purist, there are not a lot of deserving Yankees right now. Actually, I’m with Mel. All-Star would be nice, but I’m more interested in the way this team has been playing as a team, and I’m much more interested in this team taking it to the finish line.
But I will go and vote for a couple of Yankees. I have to decide if I’ll vote for a whole team of guys.
After listening to Mike F’s total blow-up in that sound file, I seriously don’t get why anyone listens to or calls this show. And he’s never going off the air as long as people do. He’s an egotistical blowhard who can’t bear to be disagreed with, who doesn’t know the simple facts of the local teams and doesn’t care to be bothered with due diligence. I’m embarrassed for him.
But I know, he laughs all the way to the bank.
And as far as Joba is concerned, Mike F. will never EVER admit that Joba has the stuff to be a starter, for the simple fact that he once did very well in the 8th inning.
I do agree that not everyone has a closer’s temperament and Joba seemed to have it. That doesn’t mean that’s where he should. And there may come a time where that’s where he ends up. But to deny he has any talent at all as a starter, any potential at all as a starter, is just crazy, shortsighted and ignorant.
We no longer have the best players at every position
In the recent past, there was no Markakis, Adam Jones, Longoria, Pena, Pedroia, Youkallis, Mauer, Kinsler, Hamilton, etc.
Guys like Cabrera and Bay were in the NL
We had the usual suspects – the Jeters, ARods, Mannys, Ichiros, Ortizs, etc.
There were no 2nd baseman for a while, now there are dozens of great young ones like Hill, Kinsler, Cano, Pedroia. etc.
We have relief help in the minors. We don’t need to go outside the organization, IMO.
Just bring up Melancon – you add a stud without giving up inventory.
There are two ways to look at the trade deadline.
One is save money and if you’re getting anybody mabe sign one useful reserve infielder/outfielder, then splurge next year. Try and fix the bullpen from within.
Another is to try and fix the teams’ problems this year and get several decent to upper level good bullpen arms AND a usseful reserve infielder/outfielder, and worry about next year next year.
I’m for choice two. The 09′ yanks look to me like they have what it takes to win it all. Teams with a legitimate championshp chance are rare; who knows what the team’ll be like next season? You go for it all now, when you know you have a shot and when your only major problem is a below average to downright bad bullpen. Let’s go for it!
“Wang’s mechanics are off because he tore the crap out of his foot. It has nothing to do with his secondary pitches.”
DB-
i’m not so sure about that. the effects of the injured foot is the obvious thing they have to fix first to get rid of that variable.
simple question.
do you understand that wang has to throw the sinker with a shorter stride than his natural stride to make the sinker sink?
i don’t think you know that.
if you did, you’d also know that wang has trouble keeping his stride short .
he can’t be changing his stride on every pitch so all his secondary pitches have to be thrown with this short shorter stride.
here’s the problem. when he throws 90% -95% sinkers he gets in that shorter step rhythm.
when he throws a lot secondary pitches that are what he used to throw, he’s more likely to go back to the long stride he associated with those pitches.
the long stride kills the sinker.
wang can’t stride long and get the ball to sink.
wang’s secondary pitches are his old pitches he used to have when he had the long stride.
Ironically, Jeter may be one of the least deserving on the team (A-Rod, Tex, Damon, Cano, Melky, CC) yet he may be our only All-Star along with MO lol
bodhi, How do we know Melancon’ll be a stud? I love Melancon and think in a few years he’ll be great, but he’s a rookie. With the exception of a rare few, rookies struggle and that’s okay. We can’t count on an unproven pitcher to be a savior.
“It would be pretty embarrassing if we only have 2 or 3 all-stars.”
Not if the team is in first place. The ’96 team only had 3 all-stars.
No reason why Tomko is here instead of Melancon
Why can’t this team just live with growing pains for a change and not send him down at the first sign of struggling?
Vote Cano and often
“Mike F. will never EVER admit that Joba has the stuff to be a starter”
No kidding. I listened to that caller, Alex (by the way, thanks for posting it people), and you wish somebody would drown Mike out and let the caller have his say. It’s hard to get upset about it though, it’s sports radio.
Tomko is a joke. Why is he here?
Coke is struggling. Sigh.
laughs at you?)
May 27th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Thanks for getting the joke GB.
I for one can wait til sept. Melky and the wall was a little scary though.
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No kidding. I thought that he had either seperated, dislocated or worse, broken his collarbone. It looked like he hit that metal stanchion in the fence full tilt. he got turned around to start with, so he should have caught the ball. Of course, the ball shouldn’t have been hit that far.
Like I said earlier, it is a shame that the Yankees don’t support their players more in that aspect.
That being said, Gardner should not be on the ballot, its a waste of space. I wrote Melky Cabrera in but I doubt too many people will do so.
man.francessa blew a gasket.
i just saw the video & was laughing my butt off.
he actually called the caller(alex) joba.
francessa or anybody else for that matter does not know how good joba will be going forward.
you can’t compare him with anybody.
pitchers need to learn how to pitch & that takes time.
joba might end up in the pen & that might be the best place for him but only time will tell.
what happens if joba turns into the best pitcher in baseball?
we will never know unless he is given the chance.
i don’t care if he starts or ends up in the pen as long as he is on the team but we will never know unless he is given every opportunity to start.
the game that i remember is against the rs when he outdueled becket.
Josh Willingham’s available, any takers?
I am not here
May 27th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
bodhi, How do we know Melancon’ll be a stud? I love Melancon and think in a few years he’ll be great, but he’s a rookie. With the exception of a rare few, rookies struggle and that’s okay. We can’t count on an unproven pitcher to be a savior.
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No,no,no,no,no. Melancon is a stud…NOW. This is not a guy who really needs fine-tuning.
He’s the “exception” among the “rare few.”
What he needs is to be brought East and told: “You’re in our BP from here on in, and we have high expectations for you.”
It’s interesting how his first two outings have been discounted and obliterated by that ill-fated pitch down the middle the Matthews that came with an inherited BL, and the utterly uncustomary no command he experienced a fourth day later.
That’s not him – him is the guy at Fenway and at Detroit.
I’ve seen him pitch live a lot. He’s ready right now. He’s not “getting away” with a false notion of “command” because Triple A hitters blow. That’s just not reality; that is the musing of people who don’t see him very often.
bodhi, I never discounted his first few outings. I love it. He’s gonna be great. But I don’t want to hang possibly our playoff or WS hopes on a rookie pitcher who’s been up and down in his very few major league starts.
He deserves to be here, but I’m not counting on him by any means at all. A lot of pitchers are dominant in AAA.
And bodhi, I hear what you’re saying, that he’s ready now. Sorry, but some pitchers just struggle as rookies. Will he? Maybe. Maybe not. I’d rather not risk it.
anyone happen to catch the Orioles come back to beat the Blue Jays today…what a game. Now if only the Yankees can start taking advantage of these teams losing
Could be mental is what I’m getting at.
Even Johan Santana had a six ERA his rookie year.
Mr. T
May 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
No reason why Tomko is here instead of Melancon
Why can’t this team just live with growing pains for a change and not send him down at the first sign of struggling?
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Agree. Unless there’s a hidden issue like an injury, there’s no good reason for Melancon to be at SWB.
The Yankees already forfeited the extra year before arbitration.
I don’t care if he comes up and gets tattooed in his next outing. This kid is the goods. I feel stupid exhorting the Yankees to bring up a kid whose ability they already know, chapter and verse.
So what’s the hangup?
PA?
Why not ask the Yankees where they think Melancon needs to be before they bring him up here.
What people forget is the Yankees have taken advantage of other teams losing. Unless I’m mmistaken, we’re the wild card team.
Don’t know about you, but I’d seriously take it. Wild card teams can win the WS.
Tex is third in 1st base voting. Jeet first. Cano fourth. Somehow, bizarrely, A-Rod third.
Got to write in the Melkman, guys.
Doreen – That was a long post. You’ve had a few of those lately. Just an observation … are you really Dave impostering as Doreen?
“Andy Pettitte can’t pitch the 8th inning!!!!!”
I think Nady coming back can definetely help this team from an offensive point. He is an upgrade over swisher
Yankee website says Melky has strained right shoulder. Out a couple days. And of course we have no clue what his production’ll be like when he’s back.
if it was dave it would all be bunched together in one big ball of crap.
I’m tempted to vote for Manny…as many times as possible.
John, I think if you platoon Nady and Swisher, you can get the bestof both by using whoever is hot at the time.
Also, the yankees are going to need to make a deal for a relief pitcher…not too many great ones available though.
houston street?
valverde?
I would love to have seen a blood pressure reading when Francessa blew the gasket.
We don’t need great relief, just decent.
It looks like Tino Martinez will represent the Yanks in the draft. I’m hoping that he has some input into the draft choices. He’d know as well as anyone what the Yanks need to go after. Power/speed outfielders and middle infield players, hopefully, the highly advanced ones that could be difficult signings for some teams.
yeah of course you platoon those guys. I think that swisher really needs some days off though. His bat looks really slow
Syracuse leads Scranton 1-0. Jackson is now 2-3 with a triple to right center and a single to left.
Q for Joe G: Why wasn’t Wang pitching yesterday?
“Andy Pettitte can’t pitch the 8th inning!!!!!!”
It’s funny, didn’t Pettitte relieve a few times last year or the year before when relievers were dropping like flies? I remember him coming in and basically doing his bullpen on the mound…
I am not here
May 27th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Yankee website says Melky has strained right shoulder. Out a couple days. And of course we have no clue what his production’ll be like when he’s back.
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Shoulders can be tricky. He slammed into the RF wall at home a couple of weeks ago.
Hope they don’t rush him back. Let him heal up.
Jorge return will be gigantic, so take the conservative approach with Melky.
When is the return of Jorge?
Gary G.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Like I said earlier, it is a shame that the Yankees don’t support their players more in that aspect.
That being said, Gardner should not be on the ballot, its a waste of space. I wrote Melky Cabrera in but I doubt too many people will do so.
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I will find the energy to write Melky in.
I’ve already invested several months to shouting down his detractors. The least I can do is vote for the kid.
Like I said earlier, today is a big game. Yesterday/this morning, not really. A bit disappointing, but nothing to get upset about. Game 2 loss after winning game 1. Oh well. But today, if we lose, we’ve started a 2008 Yankees style post winning streak slide.
The funny thing is I was not a Melky guy. But he has, (and I cheerfully admit it) proven me totally wrong.
Gardner, I’m not giving up on. I think he’s going to be a good player, I really do.
link for the francessa video that everyone’s talking about?
If Pete didn’t despise the Melk Man, we could get some info.
“I am not here”
are you a reincarnation?
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Syracuse leads Scranton 1-0. Jackson is now 2-3 with a triple to right center and a single to left.
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Tks. Aren’t they playing a DH today?
Time to go out for Napoleons.
Its nice to see another big Melky fan, bodhisattva
Uncle-I don’t exist.
ANSKY -
That was me – all of ‘em.
I’ve been in and out all day, so when I had the opportunity, I let it all out!
Gary G.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Its nice to see another big Melky fan, bodhisattva
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He needs the support. Still utterly blown away by the peculiar loathing Yankee fans seem to have felt for this kid. He never deserved that.
I have my theories, but don’t wan to stir up the protest-too-much wonderbreads out there who may be reading
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Go Yanks.
Randy, I’m still not buying it. Wang was 8-2 last year and pitched some gems. This, all after working more on his secondary pitches. It makes more sense to me that his injured foot would have caused the altered mechanics. I’m not a pitching coach for any stretch of the imagination but, I do consider myself a person with logic and common sense. If what you were saying is true, it could have accounted for the abysmal starts he was having before he hurt his foot, although that game he was pitching well. (some data to back it up would be nice) But then again, I’m sure there is way more to it than what you or I can see.
One thing is abundantly clear, the man is not the same pitcher and lacks any sort of consistency.
I am not here
May 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Uncle-I don’t exist.
oh Like Harvey!
I gotcha
no this road trip is not the season. that’s absurd.
but if they play poorly, and lose ground, i would bet that even some of those who are looking at the bright side right now will be a bit more critical.
that’s how it goes. when they lose four straight, people start saying “if x doesn’t happen, it’s time to blow it up,” and they’ll be saying that again if the yankees fall back to 6.5 back again.
it’s just the way it goes. and the season can start to slip away at ANY time. a loss is a loss, whether it comes in may or september.
cor shep May 27th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
link for the francessa video that everyone’s talking about?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhYbnZ7XlU
Swish needs to get back on the Red Bull
If we lose tonight, that’s 2 series in a row lost after the win streak
Same thing that happened last year after the 7 and 9 game win streak.
“Andy Pettitte can’t pitch the 8th inning!!!!!!”
In my book, we’ll have a good chance of winning any game where any of the starters (CC/AJ/Pettitte/Joba/Wang/Hughes) pitches the 8th inning.
As long as they’ve pitched 7 strong innings leading up to the 8th, that is. Skroo this starter in the pen stuff. C’mon. Get real. Wang’s only there temporarily because there’s no where else to put him until he’s himself again. Yeesh.
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“Phil Coke (or as Joe Girardi pronounces it, “Scott Proctor”)”
Funny, Pete. Very funny.
kasey, I never said the road trip was the season. Ridiculously far from it. But it’s a big road trip.
Not sure if you were referring to me, but wanted to clarify if you were.
maybe i know you
New Ortiz Rule in MLB
http://www.theonion.com/conten....._policy_to?
AJ better step up tonight. The team needs him to
Who knows how many runs they get off this Holland rookie.
Doreen – Let it all out … or … “Let loose if it feels good!” OK, who remembers who used to say that? I do. Who else?
This has all the makings of the type of game where we don’t figure out their rookie starter, AJ pitches an OK game like 6 innings, 4 runs
Wang comes in and gives up a couple. Kind of a quiet game.
Pull AJ after 5 today and let Wang pitch the final 3
Getting Wang some work is important
“If we lose tonight, that’s 2 series in a row lost after the win streak
Same thing that happened last year after the 7 and 9 game win streak.”
excellent point. this team could very well end up like last year’s. it’s a very viable scenario.
like i said, a loss is a loss. lost series count just as much in may as they do in august or september.
I learned a lot catching up on these comments.
In a nutshell:
If Wang returns to his dominant Yankee form we have Randy L to thank! (way to go Clank!)
To show their thanks, Taiwan will build a statue in Randy’s honor. (squatting of course, with catcher’s mask in one hand and arm slot reports in the other)
Nick in SF will honor the occasion by releasing 1,000 Taiwanese pigeons in the general statue vicinity.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....;fext=.jsp
Something interesting. Robbie Cano’S Career BA in minors is 278, 331,425.
When the yankees called him up in 2005 his numbers in AAA at the time were…333. 336, 574 in 25 games. He had 4hrs, 24 rbis.
O my God.
Just saw the Mike video. He must be perhaps the sttupidest man in America after that outburst. All his points were so ridiculous it’s amazing he has a job. I could refute them individually right now, but I really am not in the mood.
Moron.
I have my theories, but don’t wan to stir up the protest-too-much wonderbreads out there who may be reading.
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Yeah, and I have no doubt one of those theories is throwing down the overused race card.
The only thing worse than racism is someone who throws down the race card to criticize those who have legitimate gripes about someone’s game.
That rant from Francesa to that Alex guy was hilarious
His mocking of Burnett and the pies was classic too– Mike things Burnett actually bakes the pies LOL.
He is right though, he needs to step up now.
The hatred towards Melky Cabrera is something I will never understand, bodhisattva. Actually, Robinson Cano got/gets the same type of hatred.
Now I am going to say what you didn’t want to say. I don’t care who attacks me. In a lot of instances (not all) it is pure racism. People on this board have even said that they would rather see a home-grown player (in Brett Gardner) as opposed to an imported player from a Latin country.
Of course I’m not saying Pete is that way, he just has a special bond with Brett.
Don’t want to let this turn into a slide.
It’s important that AJ finally steps up after his 6 ERA month
Be quiet, Joe. I’ll play the race card when I see it. Making generalizations about Dominicans being “lazy” is still racism. I guess you are one of the types to think that there is no such thing as racism.
It is kind of funny though that the guy who has a 6.04 ERA over the past month and makes $82 million is baking pies for the team and thats been what he is known for thus far hahaha
Manny Ramirez is in 4th place in NL All Star OF voting. Unreal.
Joe-He never mentioned the race card.
Why create what is on this blog now a non issue?
DB-
the short stride issue is a significant one.
neil allen who created wang the sinker ball pitcher flat out said wang has to take a short stride to make the ball sink.
i personally feel that wang has to keep it simple and keep the short stride so he keeps the nasty sinker.
i think it’s natural for him to lengthen his stride when he throws too may of those secondary pitches that he’s used to throwing with a long stride.
that’s bad for the sinker.
the question is how many secondary pitches can he throw before he lengthens his stride and screws up the sinker.
Something interesting. Robbie Cano’S Career BA in minors is 278, 331,425.
When the yankees called him up in 2005 his numbers in AAA at the time were…333. 336, 574 in 25 games. He had 4hrs, 24 rbis.
Whats the worst that could happen if the yankees bring up austin jackson?? He’d become an auto out?? If we have to absorb the ups and down’s of a young starting pitcher who’s 23, why cant we excercise the same patience for a 22 up and coming outfielder.
I am not here May 27th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Joe-He never mentioned the race card.
Why create what is on this blog now a non issue?
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What was that again?
What happened to Dellin Betances, I didn’t hear anything about his injury…
Gary G.-Seriously, you too.
I never heard Dominicans being called lazy, I heard Robbie Cano being called lazy.
Don’t make this a political forum. I go here to get away from that crap.
Joe-Exactly. You brought up the issue.
He didn’t mention the race card, Joe. I did. And you are an ignorant fool
Just because you’ve never heard something doesn’t mean it hasn’t been said. It doesn’t need to be a political forum, just agree with me and be quiet.
Can someone please answer my question? Inquiring minds want answers
Gary G.-I will respectfully disagree.
I thought Robbie was lazy. I also thought A-Rod was perhaps the hardest worker in the game. And the best player.
Seriously, stop the race debates. Not just to Gary, but to everyone. I’m tired of it.
Benny, I think there are particular things, like breaking pitches just as an example, the Yanks ant to work AJax out on.
Manny will be a starter in the All-Star game, mark my words.
ant is want.
Some people in this forum have a hard time believing that gripes about a ballplayer’s game cannot be simply that.
There has to be some kind of ulterior motive and throwing down the race card is their prime defense.
When Gardner sucks – it’s because he sucks. When Swisher sucks – it’s because he sucks.
But when Melky or Cano sucks and people gripe about it – well, then they are racists.
It’s an old and tired game. But some people love to do it anyways.
If Manny is a starter, I think we can all decalre the all star game an official joke.
benny –
that’s just the way people are geared. a position player who struggles at the major league level is “not ready” while a pitcher is “learning on the job” and it’s “part of the process.” it’s what people hear so it’s what they believe.
how do you judge when a kid is “ready?” lastings milledge was “ready.”
I understand both sides points, actually. Yes, even Joe’s. But the subject was not broached. We were having a fine discussion. Why open old wounds?
“Can someone please answer my question? Inquiring minds want answers ”
I’ve never seen AJax play outside of ST, but I believe the consensus is that Cano was a more ML-ready hitter. I believe at this stage Jackson is working on hitting breaking balls and hitting to all fields.
All the people clamoring for Shelly Duncan to get called up ignore the fact that he can’t do either of those two things – which is why he is the biggest reason he is a AAAA player.
The only “race” issues that people should worry about here are the “AL East race” issues. That should be the end of the discussion.
kasey, that’s not true completely. Melancon and Hughes weren’t “ready”.
ANSKY-My points exactly.
I am not here May 27th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Joe-Exactly. You brought up the issue.
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No, bodhisattva and Gary G. brought up the issue. It was obvious that they were talking about.
Gary G. posted his comment making the same claim. I just happened to call them on it before he was finished writing his comment at 6:53.
: He will be activated on Friday in Cleveland unless he gets hit by a bus in Tampa.
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OMG Pete that is an awful thing to say!!
Great news on Brian. Maybe next time he will be smarter! I think they need to hold a team meeting. Tell the players if you feel anything strange come to us. Don’t think you’ll get the “Pavano” label. Just be honest!
Brian Bruney: Dr. James Andrews checked him out and he came up clean. No ligament issue. He has a flexor muscle strain and whatever pain he still has is a residual of that. He will rest and start a throwing program. Because Bruney fibbed about how he felt last time, you can bet he’ll out at least another 2-3 weeks at least.
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Well, good news.
We have to and will survive
Joe-But they didn’t say it. Then stopped discussion on it.
I actually see your point, but please, can we get back to baseball?
It is time for Burnett to come up big
smartcookie: you forgot the next step: after I release the pigeons I’ll take pictures of it and put them on my flickr page.
Melky and Gardner are both home-grown Yankees. A lot of the sociological theorizing about why people say what they say about both players is silly (though in some cases probably very true). Most people will be happy if one or both of them does well, even if they act differently on here. People say goofy things.
I really don’t want to get into this Joe. I was just making a comment to bodhisattva. You may only read this website but I read a few Yankees message boards.
Nick Swisher and Brett Gardner will never receive the kind of abuse that Melky (and Robinson) received. It wasn’t just that people disliked them, they wanted them to fail. Baseball fans should never want their own players to fail! People wanted them to go back to he Dominican where they came from. I don’t see many people saying that Brett needs to go back to South Carolina or whatever state he is from.
kasey, that’s not true completely. Melancon and Hughes weren’t “ready”.
true. it’s a case-by-case thing. and (i hope) no one is saying joba isn’t ready. he’s just learning on the job and it’s part of the process.
is jackson ready to face major league pitching? obviously, i’m no scout so i have no idea. but if he wasn’t, what’s the difference between him “learning on the job” and joba doing it?
Posada back Friday. Nice.
Bruney, 2-3 weeks. Darn.
Great news on Bruney.
I don’t know, Gary. I’ve seen some deep Gardy hatred.
I too scrowl other message boards and blogs.
not great news regarding melky but could be worse.
bruney will be out as long as he is convinced he’s hurt, so that is what it is.
i like both melky and gardner a lot…both are homegrown yankees and i always hold a special affinity for those types of players..melky is having a fantastic year and it really is a shame he got hurt yesterday…as for gardy…i think most people would of signed up for a .271 average through 96 abs…he has exceeded my expectations offensively so far…i hope both can play important roles on this team
Nick, you misunderstood me. By “home-grown”, I don’t mean in the Yankees organization rather in the United States. There are a lot of gripes about Spanish players taking over the league but that is an entirely different argument.
Switching gears, great news on Posada.
Ralphie, I think it says Melky for maybe two days. Cross your fingers.
Would you like to join my and bodhi’s campaign to get Melky to the all star game?
“The only “race” issues that people should worry about here are the “AL East race” issues. That should be the end of the discussion.”
Good point, ANSKY.
I was beginning to fear that Bruney’s injury this year would be like Wang’s injury last year – momentum killing, and leaving a critical part of the game in jeopardy. Good news.
Hopefully Posada can stay away from all buses in Tampa.
I mentioned earlier today that it wouldn’t surprise me if Pena logged more innings in the OF than Matsui. Guess I was clairvoyent (sp?).
Melky to the DL, Berroa and Cash get DFA’d.
Posada, Linden, and Melancon get called up (with a new 40 man roster spot still open).
Latin players are taking over the league. They’re the best players.
Anyway, great news on Posada.
I was really hoping that when Posada gets back Swisher would hit 9th – but since Melky is going to miss some time, it’ll probably be a 7-9 of Matsui, Swisher, Gardner.
“Ralphie, I think it says Melky for maybe two days. Cross your fingers.
Would you like to join my and bodhi’s campaign to get Melky to the all star game?”
i voted for melky 25 times already
S.A.–
My head just exploded. I’m up to the part where
“I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU A THING OR TWO” Give me the statistics from when Jobber was in the pen to when he was a starting pitcher”.
UM NO ‘hit! He is going to have a higher era as a starter than he did as a reliever. What a moron this guy is. How does he have a job?
Some time. is only like 2 games.
It COULD be more, but why worry about what is now a nonexistent situation?
Probably looking at 3-4 weeks for Bruney. Two weeks of complete rest. One week throwing program. One week of game action. Maybe a little less if the pain goes away.
That’s great news. Could have been a lot worse.
If Melky is out a week, there is no reason why Berroa is still on the roster. DFA him, call up Linden, problem solved.
Seems simple enough.
Cash for Posada makes sense because Cervelli and CC are working well together and that gives Jorge a natural day off.
jennifer, his logic is perhaps the worst I’ve ever heard for that arguement.
well at least the MelkMan’s injury is not that serious even if it mean a 15 DL stint, hopefully he’s back soon…will be glad to have Posada’s bat back in the Yankee lineup, he’s clutch
jennifer-his entire rant is just ridiculous! I could not stop laughing at him
SJ, it’s great news considering what it could have been but disappointing considering he was on the active roster a couple days ago.
Very easy to root for Gardner
If nothing else, he has shown he is a valuable backup OF and pinch runner.
I am still a Gardy guy.
Gardy for the HOF!
“That is atrocious! Atrocious!”
Where is John Rodriquez?
If Gardner or someone goes down, who plays OF the next few days? Tomko?
Gary, I am sure that there are some who like Gardner because they identify with a Caucasian player and don’t like Melky because they think he personifies the stereotypical lazy Latin American player, but I think too many pro-Gardner and anti-Melky comments are seen through that prism. Some people just soured on Melky because he was so lost for much of last season. Anyway, there’s a lot of gray area in this discussion. Go team.
bodhi: I can’t remember if I mentioned this or not, but the new Elvis Costello record is streaming for free on the EC website. Please don’t be insulted by a ‘cummunity’ and non-baseball comment!
Agreed 5-7 days without Melky, you want to keep him up fine. No sense in losing him 15 days if you don’t have to. But you have to get another outfielder up here. It isn’t fair to make a kid who just learned third and second to now have to learn the outfield.
Also Swish needs a few days off, total days. he has to get his head screwed on straight. He is better than this.
“ANDY PETTTITE IS A STARTING PITCHAH!!!”
“ANDY PETTITTE CAN’T PITCH THE 8TH INNING!!!”
Anytime you go to Dr. Andrews, and aren’t getting ready to have TJ Surgery the next day, its good news.
The key now is for Bruney to be honest with them about how he feels. Hopefully, he forgets about pulling anymore hero moves.
Follow the rehab program and you have a guy fresh for the last 3 1/2 months of the season. When you think about it, its an advantage because other teams relief pitchers will be gassed when Bruney is fresh.
So how are we supposed to survive the next 4 weeks without Bruney in the pen?
And he never lets anyone speak who disagrees with them. Just screams over them. EXPLAIN TO ME EXPLAIN TO ME. Um maybe if you’d shut up people would be able to explain.
What is his contract up?
In the largest media market in the country we have awful sports guys. Drive time Michael Kay and Mike Francesa. Great!
If Melky feels fine, play him. He’s sore, don’t.
“JOE …NH
May 27th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
New Ortiz Rule in MLB
http://www.theonion.com/conten....._policy_to?
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ha that’s hilarious:)
Mark Feinsand said Melky is unavailable until Saturday and then is day to day until the soreness is gone.
Wow… I just listened to the Francessa audio and now I want to throw up everywhere
Zolio
The team survived 4 weeks without Alex. Someone needs to step up and take control.
Exactly how far away is Austin Jackson from becoming a major league regular?
Zolio-The same way we survived the first few.
I have to say, for the first time in months, Francessa’s show was very entertaining today. Between the Joba thing and the Burnett pies, it was fun.
Still not intelligent baseball discussion, but a nice comic relief on an otherwise declining show.
So how are we supposed to survive the next 4 weeks without Bruney in the pen?
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>Starters have to go deeper into the game
>The bats have to get cracking and provide run support
>Someone in the bullpen steps up
>Pray?
We can do this.
If they can survive without Arod and Posada, they can survive without Bruney.
Jackson finishes the first ga,e 2-4. Both outs were hard hit. A long fly to cebter and a liner to the third baseman. Eric Duncam drove in the winning run and Eric Duncan locked it up with a 2 run homer.
Kontos was outstanding in his 6 innings, with 6 hits, 1 run, 2 walks and 6 strikeouts.
Melancon fished with the save, 1 inning, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 0 strikeouts. Final score was 4-1 Scranton.
ANSKY -
That was me – all of them. I have been in and out all day, or on the phone, or doing other things. And by the time I sat down to read stuff, I guess I had a lot to say – always a day late and a dollar short, though.
I don’t see how anyone could think that outburst by Francesa to Alex was hilarious. It was unprofessional and demeaning. That’s me.
“So how are we supposed to survive the next 4 weeks without Bruney in the pen?”
The same way they’ve survived the last 5 weeks without him. They went from *2 games* over .500 when he last pitched (not counting his injured appearance last week) to *6 games* over .500.
“Meanwhile — get this — Ramiro Pena was taking balls in the outfield today. Once again we ask: Why is Angel Berroa still on the roster?”
Pena trying to play outfield, Cash trying to play third, Berroa ???
That show is nothing w/o Mad Dog.
Cervelli should be taking flys too.
“Cash for Posada makes sense because Cervelli and CC are working well together and that gives Jorge a natural day off.”
that makes perfect sense. if only it were ever that simple for the yankees.
I’m so dismayed. I never realized that I was a racist. Memo to self: stop cheering for Gardner.
Good news about Melky and Bruney (no TJ surgery indicated). Kim reporting that if Dr. Ahmad says more than the 5-7, then Melky will likely be DL’d.
I have no problem with Ramiro Pena taking fly balls. If anything, versatility helps his career. What I do have a problem with is Berroa. I can understand if a guy is an emergency catcher, but that can’t be their only raison d’etre (pardon my French, but it seemed the most appropriate way to put it).
So did Francessa ever look up the Joba starter stats??? I know the stat Mike from Bedminister is talking about, it was quoted on YES. Joba was supposed ranked 5th or 6th in the MLB in ERA since starting.
“Cervelli should be taking flys too.”
If I were him, I’d either be doing that or shopping for a 1B glove. In the event he stops hitting (which will most certainly happen) he’ll need to have some versatility to have any legit future as a Major Leaguer.
Melancon fished with the save
After he saved the fish, he saved the game.
Scorpio
That is what Alex tried to tell Mike, but he was so busy yelling and screaming to pay attention.
BTW, for people who have the DirecTV Extra Innings package, if you want to watch/listen to the YES pre-game, go to channel 720, the MLB Game Mix channel, and move the red square over the channel for the Yankee game. Bingo, you’re listening to Bob L. and Kim J. If you click on the channel, you don’t get it (unless you pay for YES seperately?).
If that helps anyone, I’ve done my job.
I predict the Yankees take tonight’s game and AJ has a fairly good outing – well certainly better than the last one!
I also predict that by evening’s end, Yankees will be tied for first place.
I am in love with Cervelli. How wonderful is he!
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And since I saw Wang’s name mentioned in this thread, I will quote what I said from the previous thread: Take this to the bank. Girardi will work Wang back into the starting rotation.
“If Melky is out a week, there is no reason why Berroa is still on the roster. DFA him, call up Linden, problem solved.
Seems simple enough.
Cash for Posada makes sense because Cervelli and CC are working well together and that gives Jorge a natural day off.”
My guess is that when Posada comes back Friday Cash gets designated, which clears a spot on the 40 man for the extra OF. They probably weren’t going to get an OF to Texas tonight anyway – which also probably explains why Pena was taking fly balls = just in case they need him tonight.
(My reference to Cervelli had to do with his interview with Kim Jones, shown in the BP show today.)
is racist if i say Brett Gardner reminds me of this guy?
http://images3.wikia.nocookie......px-Ruk.jpg
JOBA IS 23!!!!!!
Since when was Joba a bullpen pitcher. Then by that stupid logic, Mo is a starter and Price should be in the pen. And what about Wang? Why move him if he does well from the pen?
23 year old pitchers have pitch counts. They’re still learning. Therefore it’ll take awhile to become really consitent. At his age he’s better than most pitchers are at the same age and better than a lot of pitchers in the MLB right now!
Hey, A.J. has been struggling. He has great stuff, we’ll be getting Wang back and he has trouble going deep into games. Let’s give Hughes his start and put A.J. in the pen!
That does not make sense because A STARTER IS MORE VALUABLE THAN EVERY RELIEVER BUT MO!!!! When will people realize that.
Rant over.
I wonder if Angel (Berroa) thinks to himself, “What am I doing here?”
Berroa is on the roster for a simple reason. It allows the Yanks to DH ARod and hit for Pena late in the game.
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Cervelli should be taking flys too.
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I’m glad somebody besides me said that. He has decent foot speed to play rught field, or, even left field. He has a good arm, and, with practice, should be at least able to track flies in the outfield. Over the years, one of the biggest coaching mistakes NYY made was not bringing in a goot outfield coach. They had one of the best outfield/base running coaches in baseball, and they fired him….Jose Cardinal.
I’m going to be racist and say I love Cervelli, the fellow Italian.
Well, frankly – whatever happens tonight, the BEST news was about Bruney. Now Brian can relax and know that nothing is wrong with him……….but he has got to tell the truth from now on. Not doing so hurt himself and his team…….
I guess it’s ok news on Melky – as long as he didn’t suffer a separated shoulder…..
Angel Berroa should be happy he has a job.
vin
May 27th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
“Cervelli should be taking flys too.”
If I were him, I’d either be doing that or shopping for a 1B glove. In the event he stops hitting (which will most certainly happen) he’ll need to have some versatility to have any legit future as a Major Leaguer.
I’m a Giant’s fan but one of my foavorite players was Brian Mitchell of the skins – punt return guy who came into a game as QB and did well.
pays to be veritile
“rught… goot”
Did you spike your Coke Classic today?
The only way a bullpen guy could be as or more valuable than a starter is not only to be as great as Mo (several pitchers are today) but to be as great for as long a period of time.
“Angel Berroa should be happy he has a job.”
Yeah, but he could always land a job working the door at Wal-Mart. /obvious age joke
I agree it pays to be versatile, and if I were Cervelli I’d be shagging flys, but Cervelli is an excellent defensive catcher from what we’ve seen so far.
Uncle Ellsworth: I swear, last night when they showed Gardner in the dugout with his helmet off, the first thing I thought of was the guys in “Beneath the Planet of the Apes” with their big chrome domes.
“Take this to the bank. Girardi will work Wang back into the starting rotation.”
i’m sure that’s the plan but it’s not just up to girardi.
vin
May 27th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
“rught… goot”
Did you spike your Coke Classic today?
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Nah…the dog ate the keys off of the computer and crapped on my dictionary. At least, the day got better. i wasn’t reading the dictionary.
Brett Gardner should have hair. His head is huge and baldness does not become him.
Re: Versatility
Just look at last year’s Rays…
Hinske:
RF-LF-1B-3B-DH
Aybar:
3B-1B-2B-SS-DH
Zobrist:
SS-LF-2B-CF-RF-3B
Doreen
May 27th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Brett Gardner should have hair. His head is huge and baldness does not become him.
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But, it does make him aerodynamic.
Nick in SF
May 27th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Uncle Ellsworth: I swear, last night when they showed Gardner in the dugout with his helmet off, the first thing I thought of was the guys in “Beneath the Planet of the Apes” with their big chrome domes.
or…… Dead or alive, you’re coming with me.
If Burnett had Yankee Stadium in his head and the HRs, then how he is going to pitch in Arlington?
Brett can play the organ when Melky comes back:
http://www.fredosphere.com/ima.....s03Big.jpg
http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/robocop2.jpg
this guy
I’m confident that AJ will begin to string together wins.
again…Last year he was 3-4 4.94 in 9 starts.
Frankly, I don’t expect much from AJ tonight. Not a good matchup for him with all the walks/HRs he has given up lately.
I’d guess Wang gets an extended look today
GB7
If he ran without a helmet, that would be fine.
Nolan Ryan only won one World Series – very early in his career, before he was “Nolan Ryan.”
Gazing into my crystal ball, I have located a picture of the future Brett Gardner (seen here with his pal Dustin):
http://tinyurl.com/2hj4ss
Take out the Yankees and Burnett had an ERA over 5 last year in his “career year” learning from Halladay.
Best we can hope for is another mediocre performance and the offense teeing off their rookie
Doreen
May 27th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
GB7
If he ran without a helmet, that would be fine.
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He could use a spoiler on his back to keep the rear end from swaying when he runs.
mel, rather than wondering what he’s doing here, my take is that Berroa more likely is thrilled to be here and relishes every opportunity to get into a game and try to help out. If you watch his face whenever he comes into a game, whether it is as a late-inning pinch runner or to play the infield in extras, he is always wreathed in smiles.
I am happy for the guy. I don’t see that he has hurt us and I would rather have a veteran presence coming in than to see what the kids below have to offer. Nine wins in a row, 5 walk offs, and a bunch of come-from-behind wins tells me that the offense is not a big problem here. In addition, playing catch up in the division would always cause me to want a veteran presence. When we are flying with the division lead – check out the middle of June, not to take over first but to have a pretty nice lead – then I am happy to try out players from below.
That’s how I fly. I celebrate every Yankee player and also am happy for the opportunities that some of the veterans signed to the minors get to play in the Bronx. There will be a time for the younger guys in the minors. I always think that we sign veteran players to minor league contracts in the hopes that they will be available and ready in emergency situations.
Don’t laugh at Brett’s oversized head, it is big because it stores a lot of brain, just like Michael Kay.
I suppose if Cervelli could Put LF RF 1b 3b on his resume he would be very attractive to NL teams (AL too)
it is probably harder than we expect but all catchers move eventually (no Posada comments please!)
WHAT!!? Why the hell is Andrus at SS?? Washington has surely gone mad. The freakin’ idiot!!
Let’s go AJ.
So, Brett Gardner is a radiation-crazed super human.
Good stuff on the Twin Peaks photo.
So Gardner has a big head… are you thinking what I’m thinking? HGH!!!!!! He has hit *2* homers this year.
If we have a lead in the 8th, who gets the call… Veras?
The pen is a huge problem. Again, Girardi has to try and extend Burnett past his tipping point.
I just finished reading the RAB post on options. My head hurts.
Wow only Nick could link the Yanks to Twin Peaks/Lynch
I almost died laughing
“my bat saw something last night”
Doreen
May 27th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Nolan Ryan only won one World Series – very early in his career, before he was “Nolan Ryan.”
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More importantly, it was before Ruth Ryan was Ruth Ryan and Nancy Seaver decided that Tom should have gotten a bigger bonus than Nolan did.
That’s a nice looking ballpark.
Funny, though, I have no desire to go to Texas, even though I would like to see as many ballparks as possible one day.
kasey, I think Wang will do his part also in order to get himself back into the rotation.
“Not a good matchup for him with all the walks/HRs he has given up lately.”
Homestead, it reminds me of what my dad always told us about the stock market. Nobody ever rings a bell to tell you that stocks are at their high and will start to come down.
What’s to say that this isn’t the night that Burnett turns it all around! It has to happen some time.
Despite Toronto losing 9 in a row… if we lose tonight, they are only 1 game back of us in the loss column.
Not that it matters because the Jays are not for real, but it just goes to show you how the win streak can be neutralized pretty quickly if you let it turn into a slide. 2 series losses after the win streak is never good.
Brett does have a large sized head. His poor mama
Largest steroid distributor in Central Florida was busted and he says players from the Washington Nationals were customers. Kind of makes me wonder how much good steroids do.
I know a little about Giant Craniums-I am a size “8″ fitted hat.
There is little Brett can do to make his head look smaller.
Come on Aj…time to get it going.
NYYanksFan
ha! So maybe they don’t help out too much.
GB7 -
The plot thickens. I knew Ruth Ryan didn’t like NY. At all.
“There is little Brett can do to make his head look smaller.”
How about gain 70 pounds?
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
May 27th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I suppose if Cervelli could Put LF RF 1b 3b on his resume he would be very attractive to NL teams (AL too)
it is probably harder than we expect but all catchers move eventually (no Posada comments please!)
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I always thought that this is where Shelley Duncan and brother Chris screwed up. They should have learned to catch from their dad. The of the value they would have had for themselves and their teams.
why DID the Mets trade Seaver?
Who is the Long Man tonight Wang or “Everyday” Aceves?
Tom,
Maybe he needs to grow an axe-murder looking goat-tee like this guy:
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com.....ukilis.jpg
Was that a Six Flags right near the Texas stadium? Hmm. May have to rethink Texas.
Doreen
May 27th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
GB7 –
The plot thickens. I knew Ruth Ryan didn’t like NY. At all.
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It wasn’t NY that she didn’t like, it was Donald Grant and Nancy that she didn’t like. She’s still what she always was, a small time farm girl that looked like a runway model.
why is angel berroa on this team?
So we are facing a rook. We’ll either smack him around or get shut down.
“Largest steroid distributor in Central Florida was busted and he says players from the Washington Nationals were customers. Kind of makes me wonder how much good steroids do.”
Not so fast. I will never be a person who accuses players of using steroids without evidence, unless they play for the Red Sox.
But if you look at the BA of the Nats players, more than half are hitting over 300. Offense is not their problem. Sadly enough they are in the same place the Rays were at one time. Their pen has really not worked well for them.
GB7 -
She was a beautiful lady. Prettier than Nancy. And Nancy was okay herself. Did anyone really like Donald Grant?
Let’s Go Yankees!!!
There she is, GB7 – still beautiful.
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
May 27th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
why DID the Mets trade Seaver?
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Money and stupidity. Seaver and Ryan should have been NY icons and Mets for life.
trisha
AH so at second glance maybe it did help.
Maybe their pitchers should have used.
JETAHHH!!!
“why is angel berroa on this team?”
Because.
the hits continue for Jetes
im really digging Sir Jeter in the lead off spot
This Jeter kid has a future.
Yankees need to pound this kid into submission.
“why is angel berroa on this team?”
comic relief
Johnny went down weakly hacking. Think he swung at two balls.
Gary G.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
The hatred towards Melky Cabrera is something I will never understand, bodhisattva. Actually, Robinson Cano got/gets the same type of hatred.
Now I am going to say what you didn’t want to say. I don’t care who attacks me. In a lot of instances (not all) it is pure racism. People on this board have even said that they would rather see a home-grown player (in Brett Gardner) as opposed to an imported player from a Latin country.
Of course I’m not saying Pete is that way, he just has a special bond with Brett.
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I’ve said it many times, FTR.
And I’m with you – if people don’t like hearing it, they should stop throwing around unsubstantiated character assassinating BS about these two kids.
Otherwise, they’ll get called out by people who see through it.
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Jete gets us started off with a single.
Melancon gets the save for Scranton (if GB7 hasn’t already told everyone).
Benny agreed. Lets put up a 4 spot in the top of the first.
TEx!!!!
Nice bomb by Tex.
TEX
Woot!
Tex!
CRUSHED
Texy being sexy.
That’s how to turn a pitch around! Yay Tex.
Tex will finish with 35 plus homers
tex = amazing. We all owe him huge apologies for complaining in April.
who said Tex was a bad acquisition? LOL, whatta bomb that was!
Is roger from Amsterdam rooting for Holland?
Nick- I have a client dinner here in Seattle and wont be able to use my MLB.com to watch the game. Do you want my UN and PW?
Bleich getting creamed.
TEX IS A BEAST
“She’s still what she always was, a small time farm girl that looked like a runway model.”
Mary Anne???
Grampa Nolie! Cute.
Do we really need to see Nolan Ryan’s grandson every five seconds. Jesus. Once was more than enough.
Thanks, Doris, but I have the DTV package.
how old is the pitcher? 18?? geeze
Come on matsui
Well that was an even weaker swing by Matsui.
Good start, I’d say. Thanks Jetes and Tex.
Let’s go AJ.
“Texy being sexy.”
Sterling might be dumb enough to steal that!
Oh Matsui.
What ever happened to texMVP anyway?
Suzyn just asked why not AAA outfielder here????
we may never know
By the way Berroa had a very respectable spring training, in case anyone paid attention. Berroa had the second highest average of players who had regular AB. Sometimes I wonder what motivates people to keep on a theme that has no substance. Is it because Pete has been goofing on him because of his age that pile-on posters have decided to be oppressive about the guy?
He’s with the team because they obviously feel he has something to offer. That your expert eyes can’t detect what it is, is of very little moment.
No offense to those of you who get your jollies by goofing on the guy. And to any who were asking with some sincerity of purpose, think back to spring training.
“why is angel berroa on this team?”
There’s a theory that he’s aging in reverse.
The Yankees should send Matsui to get his knee drained.
Jackson with an infield single in the first inning, steals second and scores a run.
We need 1-2-3 inning.
I was sitting in my hotel room last night completely bored so I bought a month’s worth of MLB.tv Hi-def to watch the game.
That was efficient!
Much better than his last first pitch.
1 pitch, 1 out=
The Curious Case of Angel Berroa
Tex = Awesome
Matsui = Not so Awesome
Old baseball saying for Matsuis swing – “Put a band aid on that cut”
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Jackson with an infield single in the first inning, steals second and scores a run.
one day you are gonna wake up and say
“the kid is ready” let us know right after you call Cashman
GB7
You don’t think AJackson is about the situation on the Yankees, is he?
Stultus Magnus (Strom the Atom)
May 27th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
“Texy being sexy.”
Sterling might be dumb enough to steal that!
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I’m sure he’s already been there.
What are the stupids up to in Minny?
Portrait of Dorian Berroa
“What ever happened to texMVP anyway?”
Please don’t go there. I can only put up with so much inanity. I’m sure he’s a nice enough kid, but man does he get under my skin!
GreenBeret7 May 27th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Jackson with an infield single in the first inning, steals second and scores a run
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Nice.
Appreciate the updates GB7.
I feel confused watching Burnett because it looks like he’s not attacking the zone, and I wonder if he is so gun shy that one hit causes him to start to doubt himself.
Hope that’s not the case.
“Portrait of Dorian Berroa”
He’s more like Richard Alpert.
I wonder why people are so apt to yell “STEROIDS” but a real drug abuser like this guy escapes the “HEROIN” chants.
Where is the line?
if that were molina….he would have been out.
Matsui looked awful in his first AB last night and ended up going 2 for 3 with an RBI. The night is young.
“What are the stupids up to in Minny?”
I will check right away!
Dr. Good question. Heroin hurts other people. Steroids for the most part don’t.
“By the way Berroa had a very respectable spring training, in case anyone paid attention. Berroa had the second highest average of players who had regular AB.”
And Neifi Perez was the MVP of the Dominican Winter League every year. Small sample sizes against less than stellar competition don’t matter. Especially not when we have several years worth of data to look at. If the organization is making any decisions based on ST stats then we have huge problems.
Doreen
May 27th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
GB7
You don’t think AJackson is about the situation on the Yankees, is he?
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I can’t imagine that. Breaking ball pitchers will eat him up. He can do everything but lay off of the breaking pitches down and away. Think Alfonso Soriano.
Benny Blanco
May 27th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
if that were molina….he would have been out.
Why would Molina steal a base for texas?
Jeter had to catch that in front of the bag because Cash didn’t get it TO the bag.
“I wonder why people are so apt to yell “STEROIDS” but a real drug abuser like this guy escapes the “HEROIN” chants.
Where is the line?”
It’s all about syllables.
No score bottom of the first. Minny coming to bat.
vin- You just stretch out the word herooooin.
“He’s more like Richard Alpert.”
What likes in the shadow of the O’Neill banner?
I was talking about molina throwing the baserunner out.
S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC
May 27th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
GreenBeret7 May 27th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Jackson with an infield single in the first inning, steals second and scores a run
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Nice.
Appreciate the updates GB7.
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any time, S.A. Montero is 1-2 with another double. Laird has a single and is starting to hit better, finally.
Burnett looks ok but Jones was really making him work.
Okay good inning for AJ. No runs. Now lets get some more.
AB – well you see, Gardner got the start over Melky precisely because of spring training. And don’t let previous stats always take the day for you. That’s a fool’s treasure map.
When you hear someone say that spring training is an audition for players – by golly sometimes it is.
“vin- You just stretch out the word herooooin. ”
LOL, kinda like Darrrryyyyyylllll. Got it.
20 pitches that first inning.
Benny Blanco
May 27th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I was talking about molina throwing the baserunner out.
LAAH (lame attempt at humor)
“What are the stupids up to in Minny?”
Matsuzaka is on his way to his usual 5 innings, 4 runs, 175 pitches, 7 walks, 7 Ks, and a W…
“What likes in the shadow of the O’Neill banner? ”
The elusive Water Cooler Dharma Station.
Dr. Cox =
One drug cheats the game, the other cheats the individual. And most of us know someone who has been addicted to something and how difficult it is to turn it around.
man – AJ is already at 20 pitches… this is not a good sign… He needs to be more efficient.
The real murderers row!
7, 8, 9, murder rallies all the time.
AB I don’t know how you are for power on your fantasy team but if he’s available and you need power, Sheffield is a good pick up these days.
look at cash
So how long before someone suggests that the Yanks trade Molina and keep Cash?
Cash
oooh, painful plate appearance by the perky player of pallor.
There’s that TERRIBLE Cash!
GB7 =
Does he or will he (Austin) have much opportunity to hit breaking pitches in AAA ball? If he doesn’t then he’ll theoretically never be ready for the majors. (By the way, I’m not in any way suggesting he should be brought up before September – I think the Yankees need to pretend he does not exist right now.)
Go Cash! shut the haters up!
The captain is HAWT!
2 out hits with risp. I love it.
Nice! AJ is preparing the pies…
can jeter score this run?
Derek = INCENDIARY
Jetes!
Cash feels Jorge breathing down his neck.
Double MACHINE!
hell ya!
“7, 8, 9, murder rallies all the time.”
Always pays to wait until 7, 8, and 9 have batted before you throw that out…
Jeter must have visited the Plano Starbucks this morning.
can damon drive in this run?
That means little Dusty never made it in from third with one out.
“Cash feels Jorge breathing down his neck.”
I actually believe that Jen.
OH CMON UMPS
He held up! BS call.
nope.
No pies tonight. Can’t have a walk-off win on the road.
aj needs a quick inning. he threw 20 in the first. the yanks need him to go 7 tonight
>Always pays to wait until 7, 8, and 9 have batted before you throw that out…
Yeeeeeeeeeah, I like my odds, thanks.
Nick in SF
May 27th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Jeter must have visited the Plano Starbucks this morning.
Is this another LOST reference? I need to start watching.
I don’t know any pitcher who plays chicken more successfully than Matsuzaka!
Lefty’s so far aren’t doing much.
“Breaking ball pitchers will eat him up.”
Don’t pitchers in the minors throw breaking pitches?????
I’m not an advocate of bringing him up, but it’s hard for me to believe that he’s not seeing breaking balls down there.
And for that matter, if they don’t eat him up now, won’t they eat him all up later when he does finally arrive?
HOT LIST= tex and jeter.
we r already the wild card leader… chill out and enjoy the season and our team, which is quite good. declarations like the dribble that comes out of the mouths of radio guys r just made to get us monkeys excited. they have to keep us listening.
If they sent Cervelli down and kept Cash up would Cervelli go to AAA?
Ooo, I didn’t know that the hand puppet had made it to third!
GO SLOWEY!!!!
“One drug cheats the game, the other cheats the individual. And most of us know someone who has been addicted to something and how difficult it is to turn it around.”
Absolutely. Someone very dear to me is going through an addiction right now.
All im saying is that it warrants a discussion atleast. Society views heroin users as disgusting wastes who will never amount to anything but then relishes them in their sobriety. Look at the films Trainspotting, Basketball Diaries, and Requien for a Dream.
They all have the perverse, non-chalant view of heroin and somewhat glamorizes it. (although if youve ever seen Requiem, its not so glamourous.)
All Im saying is that a drug is a drug is a drug. I just dont see where the line is.
son of a gun..he walked him.
lead-off walks
a gift and a curse
There are no pie rules!
It would be funny if he ran out to Mo after a save and pied him on the mound. It would be one of those what-the-hell-are-you-doing-fool moments.
Jeter is closing the gap on some more targets. 3 more runs scored to reach 1500, 9 hits to reach 2600, and 15 steals to reach 300.
good start to the inning, a 6 pitch leadoff walk
ahh
Johan Santana is having a Joba-esque outing against the Nationals. 5 IP, 3 ER, 102 pitches.
“chill out and enjoy the season and our team,”
Oh yeah.
Dave….go to the mound
Uncle: that was a Minka reference. And other stuff I can barely remember.
Stultus Magnus (Strom the Atom)
May 27th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
“Breaking ball pitchers will eat him up.”
Don’t pitchers in the minors throw breaking pitches?????
I’m not an advocate of bringing him up, but it’s hard for me to believe that he’s not seeing breaking balls down there.
And for that matter, if they don’t eat him up now, won’t they eat him all up later when he does finally arrive?
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It’s the number and types of breaking pitches, but, more importantly, it’s the quality of the breaking balls thrown in the minors.
Stultus,
The fortunes of SWB and are secondary to player development for the Yankees.
Not so in the Bronx.
AJax needs to stay put for the forseeable future.
“Johan Santana is having a Joba-esque outing against the Nationals. 5 IP, 3 ER, 102 pitches.”
Wow, good for the Nats. Every day I say a silent prayer that they will win their game. It kills me to see teams languish. Unless it’s the…
Oh never mind.
Dr. Cox =
I understand what you’re saying.
Stultus Magnus -
Yes! There are definitely pie rules. But it would be funny to see Mo get a pie (at home of course) – ’cause he’ll never score a walk-off run or drive one in – for a big save.
come on aj…get that swagger back.
is that the hottest blonde ever behind home plate!!1
I’ll go on record now – if AJ can go 7, then Dave Robertson should come in and go at least an inning. We have to start using that guy on a regular basis. Enough with Veras.
burnett doesnt need to go 7. my understanding was wang would be pitching the last few innings tonight, or trying to anyway…
Not only did he make it to third, he transmitted an unspoken conceit that he would make it home.
Not to nitpick, but Hamilton was a crack addict. He said he’s never done heroin. The yahoos doing the ASG kept saying heroin, but they must have been on something.
Hamilton’s book is actually a pretty good read, even though it doesn’t really answer the big question (how the hell does someone go from being the No. 1 pick to a crack addict?).
OK, I can see Wanger for two innings. But I still think we need to use Robertson regularly, and give him the same chance Veras got.
Wow at the degree of curvature on Saltalamacchia’s jersey to fit his name on the back, lol.
Look at that dime peice!!
Buck Showalter -
You mean the one who looks totally bored with the blue shirt and hoop earrings?
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Jeter is closing the gap on some more targets. 3 more runs scored to reach 1500, 9 hits to reach 2600, and 15 steals to reach 300.
AND 131 hits to Break Lou’s ALL TIME Yankee hit record
HE IS HOT!!!!!
thank goodness mark’s wrist doesn’t hurt anymore
tex’s facial expressions are hysterical
haha Teixeira’s eyes…
she’s sure not interested in the game…just some rich dude’s eye candy….I’d rather sit next to someone who cared…
is that the hottest blonde ever behind home plate!!1
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Dear god, gimme a night with that. She’s perfection.
Mark will be hitting 300 by the time we play at yankee stadium…..
alex just missed it.
Doreen
Correct, she def married rich!!!
Thanks robbie
She’s an ice queen. You guys are crazy.
marks at 280
So, Manny can go on a “rehab” assignment in the minors and play there before his ban is over?
ice queen = A sweet and beautiful girl, who is rumored to be cold blooded and heartless.
Bod, this is what I said:
“I’m not an advocate of bringing him up[...]”
GB, I also asked:
“if they don’t eat him up now, won’t they eat him all up later when he does finally arrive?”
All I’m saying is I don’t if it’s only the breaking balls thrown in the minors that is holding him back.
I’m sure I’m a bit older than some of you guys, so take it from my experience…Doreen’s right. But she is nice to look at.
From pinstriped bible regarding DPs:
“The worst Yankees regular is Robby Cano, who has hit into five in 28 chances, or 17.9 percent”
That percentage just went up…
I have always liked Texas women. Too bad i forgot to DVR.
Let me try it again:
All I’m saying is I don’t know if it’s only the breaking balls thrown in the minors that is holding him back.
She’s no Veronica Lake.
*trisha’s fearless prediction*
I figured that AJ would go through at least 4 without giving up any ER. And then I figured if that figuring was correct, we’d have the game in the bag tonight.
Another episode in trisha’s fearless prediction.
Here’s a question that needs to be throw out to the universe:
How in hell does Matsuzaka manage to walk the world and have more 3-2 counts than all of humankind put together – and get away with it?????
is that Pete sitting next to the ice queen??? that dog… he said he had some paper work to do…
Ah, Veronica Lake….
That is as bad an inning as you will see. A Rod going for the home run pulling an outside pitch and Canoodle swinging on a bad inside pitch. 5 pitches, inning over. AJ is struggling and he didn’t have time to catch his breath.
LA Confidential reference?
“How in hell does Matsuzaka manage to walk the world and have more 3-2 counts than all of humankind put together – and get away with it.”
LOL…
thats the first thing I noticed when I turned on the game!!1
My sister-in-law is from Texas. She was born to knock guys’ eyes out – and I don’t mean with her fists. Her greeting whenever she calls: “How are y’all doin?”
Trisha,
BECAUSE DICE-K IS A WUNDERKIND AND THE BEST PITCHER EVER! HE’S GUTSY!
No, seriously, I have no idea, either. It actually makes me angry, because everyone points to his ERA and says how great he is. No. We walks the friggin’ universe, and it WILL catch up to him at some point.
“That is as bad an inning as you will see. A Rod going for the home run pulling an outside pitch and Canoodle swinging on a bad inside pitch. 5 pitches, inning over. AJ is struggling and he didn’t have time to catch his breath.”
i think the inning that swisher gidp last night was worse
This will be the last year of matsui.
Matsui has been a wondeful yankee, Its sad to see him this bad. he was soo good back in the day. One of my fav!!
slumdogs take the lead 1-0.
So, Basball-Reference calls Shelley Duncan “David Duncan” on his minor-league stats page, but “Shelley Duncan on his MLB stat page.
http://www.baseball-reference......ncan003dav
Uncle Ellsworth: Just a reference to a famous platinum blond of old. She’s great in “Sullivan’s Travels”. Was she mentioned in LA Confidential?
The GM of Texas ranger is 31 years old???? I’m going to a cliff right now.
where’s the bored hot broad?
look, hideki matsui may have lost a step or two and sure, it’s hard to watch him lunge at those pitches but make no mistake, folks, he is still very, very good at collecting, cataloging and watching pornography.
swish had a hit
Blanco just read his wikipedia. He has made some awful moves.
For example Daniels’ first major deal as general manager was trading Alfonso Soriano to the Washington Nationals for Brad Wilkerson, Terrmel Sledge, and Armando Galarraga, a move that perplexed many Rangers fans in the DFW area at the time.
Nick in SF
May 27th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Uncle Ellsworth: Just a reference to a famous platinum blond of old. She’s great in “Sullivan’s Travels”. Was she mentioned in LA Confidential?
I Liked Her in Sullivan’s travels but thought the movie was a little disappointing.
Basinger’s Character was a Lake look a-like
or a Lake – a – like if you like
BREAKING NEWS:
Nick Swisher just on base, due to a SINGLE! Unfortunately, no one was in scoring position.
Donnie, I am thinking you are right and that seriously, it would have to catch up with him unless he is bionic and we just don’t know it. It is not right I tell you. It is just not right. NOBODY keeps getting that kind of bye. I mean can you think of anybody else with that pedigree? It’s wrong and it must be corrected!
Grr!
pel,
When there’s a righthanded hitter up, you will see her. In the front row.
YAHOO! Denard Span of my fantasy league fame has just scored Minny’s first run!
GO MINNY!
Oh yeah, I totally forgot the Kim Basinger/Veronica Lake angle.
>When there’s a righthanded hitter up, you will see her. In the front row.
I got my eyes peeled.
“Nick Swisher just on base, due to a SINGLE! Unfortunately, no one was in scoring position.”
authorities are investigating a connection between the two.
Trisha,
Also, he looks like a rodent. Seriously. I picture him singing “Somewhere Out There”, while hanging out in a water tower and clutching to his favorite blue hat.
If you aren’t familiar with “An American Tail”, that reference is COMPLETELY lost on you.
Can I ask how it’s possible for Cash to have a LOWER on base percentage than AVG? Maybe I’m just baseball ignorant but that seems like it shouldn’t be doable. Did the scorer give him a hit and he got thrown out at first anyway?
Awww Mourneau (of my fantasy league fame also
) is on second with one out. Let’s see if Minny can bring him home too!
Twins up 2-1
minny scores
Thank you, Justin Kubel!
I picture him singing “Somewhere Out There”, while hanging out in a water tower and clutching to his favorite blue hat.
If you aren’t familiar with “An American Tail”, that reference is COMPLETELY lost on you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRjb8sMjYu8
That song always makes me cry.
I know you are going to think I’m making this up but Kubel (swear to God ALSO of my fantasy league fame) has just hit a double and Mourneau scored. 2-1 Minny.
Maybe this is the night when 27 3-2 counts are just too dangerous!!!
COME ON AJ!!!!!!!!!!!
“Can I ask how it’s possible for Cash to have a LOWER on base percentage than AVG?”
I remember that Soriano had that too for a while as a Yankee and I read it described as ‘a stat geek’s wet dream’.
Twenty-seven 3-2 counts, Trisha? Aren’t you being a little conservative?
GJ AJ!
that was all speed
AJ is getting some luck tonight
Lts go burnett!!1
Stultus,
I’m not sure why anyone’s advocating for him to be promoted.
He’s still working on pitch recognition. He’s already done a 360 on his plate approach. I’m sure you know not being able to hit breaking pitches is why Shelley Duncan remains a phantom, and that it’s the final frontier to be conquered, or a terminal obstacle for many young hitters, depending which way the wind blows for them.
Haven’t seen him since Easter Sunday, so I’ll be interested to see where he’s got to the next time I see him live.
Alright, AJ, get him.
OH COME ON! Millwood got that strike all last night!
Trailer for “The Road” if interested
hhtp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhvrpXYLPTU
3-1 twins
aj is soooo frustrating…he makes me want to pull my hair out lol
At least no mistakes up/middle. Could do without the walks, though.
Awww 3-1 Minny
I’m trying to watch 3 games at once, here.
About many pitches AJ has AJ thrown?
“I’m not sure why anyone’s advocating for him to be promoted.”
Impatience, irrational exhuberance, desperation, too-early optimism?
trisha – OPPC member
May 27th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Awww 3-1 Minny
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Somewhere, Peter Gammons……
AJ is at 73, I think.
We need more runs. If AJ goes 6 no way our bullpen keeps that lineup down
“Twenty-seven 3-2 counts, Trisha? Aren’t you being a little conservative?”
NICE job, AJ.
alright then.
phewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
BY THE GODS!!!!
Phew. Okay, 4 in the books. You can now breathe easy believing the Yankees will win this game.
Hey, it works for me!
Hopefully they can get a few more runs now
77 pitches for AJ
Thank you. Tough lineup to deal w/.
aj really needs a quick inning…maybe 2
Any of you watching on ESPN – I have no choice, but why are those crackpots saying that if Holland got Gardner out he was going to win the game? What kind of sense does that make???
“Awww 3-1 Minny
=
Somewhere, Peter Gammons……”
77 pitches through 4 innings is not great
jeter loves texas
Jeter.
That is all.
Good job, AJ. Nice to see they have a starting pitcher to start the game today.
derek jeter….#2
Day-um Derek
Damon just missed that
Damon havin’ an off day at the plate.
come on offense, we could use some more runs
Glens Falls own Brendan Harris comes through for the Twins.
I like the cut of his jib
Big Tex – come home, we won’t boo you!
wow, what a pick-off move! Jeets was surprised
So close Tex!
Re Cash and BA/OBP: I believe it’s the sac fly that counts against OBP but not BA.
lmao did anyone see the blonde lady’s reaction on that flyball by tex..she looked straight up
a hit would be nice here – can I order that with fries?
Omg she is soo cute!!1
yes, and I’ll have a diet coke too!!!!
GJ Alex
Ha!
“77 pitches through 4 innings is not great”
No it isn’t great. But 0 ER through 4 IS great, especially based on where AJ has been lately.
We don’t need great (I actually said I thought he’d be “fairly good” tonight so I didn’t overstate the performance.) We need a solid performance and that’s what we have gotten so far. One step at a time. Great will come in time.
Cano! Wait for your pitch!
big ab here for cano
N Ryan doesn’t seem too thrilled
Big at bat
cano is hot, maybe they will pitch around him for the slumping matsui
Suzyn Waldman just called A-Rod “the best signal-stealer in all of baseball”.
Oh, Suzy. I don’t think she meant it to be a jab, but that she ACTUALLY meant he’s good at picking up signals. But that’s…just an unfortunate thing to say, given…certain accusations.
Are you guys talking about a blonde with long curly hair or one with short hair?
Sit Cano
Cano
Cano needs a day off.
No, 77 through 4 isn’t great, but if he can get a quick 5th, he’ll be able to at least START the 6th. It’s the 7th and 8th that worry me. I really would have liked another run there.
Cano is hot? He’s now 0-3. He has horrible ABs. At least Swisher will work the count. After 2 pitches you usually have a hit or an out or outs.
who he heck is going to bridge us o mariano today?
no aveves, no coke…veras…gulp
“Are you guys talking about a blonde with long curly hair or one with short hair?”
im pretty sure she has long straight hair
Let’s go AJ. One more inning and you will be set up for the win buddy!
“Cano is hot? He’s now 0-3. He has horrible ABs. At least Swisher will work the count. After 2 pitches you usually have a hit or an out or outs.”
yes but cano= 313 ba
and swisher=226 ba…whos hotter
Trisha -
Long & straight. Blue v-neck shirt. Hoop earrings. Never smiles. Eats popcorn or whatever it is. And not much reaction to anything. Bored.
When a righthand hitter is up, when they go for a close shot, she’s in the background, first row.
does anyone else get the feeling espn hates on the yankees?
Look I don’t want to get too carried away but this is looking more like the guy we thought we signed.
Good on you AJ.
(Did you hear that he turned his buddha or whatever it is in a different direction to try to change his luck?)
Stultus Magnus,
cano is hitting 433 in the last week so….yeah you’re right he isnt hot
I think he got him. Time to induce a groundball now, AJ.
hmmmmmm?
Suzyn: What purpose does Berroa serve?
Cash got em!!
THANK YOU CASH!!!
nice, come on AJ get a nice easy inning
G F’N J!
Nice going Cash!
thata boy cash
Yeah, poor yankees…espn “hates” on them.
Yeah, poor yankees…espn “hates” on them.
Thanks D. I definitely want to see this babe they’re tlaking about.
Man, that was a FANTASTIC throw by Cash.
I change the channel and Cash has thrown somebody out. How the world changes when you channel surf.
I think she was texting instead of watching the game.
Long & straight. Blue v-neck shirt. Hoop earrings. Never smiles. Eats popcorn or whatever it is. And not much reaction to anything. Bored.
I’m in love
COME ON WITH THE WALKS ALREADY!
god burnett is frustrating
cash showing he wants to stay with the Yanks
C’mon, AJ, enough with the balls.
AJ was like..”what”?
Trisha -
They’re all crazy. She’s the type that wouldn’t look at anyone twice. (Or she seems like that type – how could I possibly know????
)
there we go.
Rob NY: to answer your question, I think it’s possible to have a lower OBP than BA if the player has more sacrafices than walks.
Can AJ give us 1 more inning?
Well…so much for the quick inning. But AJ’s at 93, I believe, so he’s probably got one more in him. I think we see Wang tonight.
5 INNINGS! Yes!
Beautiful seeing-eye backhand by Cain.
I think A.J has done well tonight. Give him a little credit!!
That’s Kane, and wrong forum, lol.
“Suzyn: What purpose does Berroa serve?”
MFn YAWN!
Seriously.
the Blonde is probably Ryan’s Daughter.
Matsui isnt done!
godzilla!!!!
GODZILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yay matsui…that is one slowwwww homerun trot
Where did THAT come from????
Yay Hideki!
I’m going say, having noticed this blond in the first inning and a few times since, that’s being overrated on this board.
And please don’t come back with the “you wouldn’t kick her out of blah blah blah” because that is so not the point.
And: hello *again* Godzilla!
so when the ESPN “gurus” wanted Holland to walk Cano to pitch to Matsui – it might not have been a good idea for Holland…
Every time Matsui looks lost
He does that…
Nice way to break out of a funk.
Sui.
Matsui is Jeckyll and Hyde, because as weak as he’s looked at times, he knocked the crap out of that ball. Great hit.
It’s a thrilla from Godzilla
Donnie
May 27th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Well…so much for the quick inning. But AJ’s at 93, I believe, so he’s probably got one more in him. I think we see Wang tonight.
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I was just about to ask.
Hey – Hideki getting hot. We need to revive the old bullpen car to give him a lift around the bases.
Haha, that’s why you live with Matsui in the lineup.
Is Rick Suttclife drunk. He is so annoying.
i was thinking how lost hes looked. how about that…. and the news from st paul is pleasant.
Awwww. And here I was thinking Matsui was washed up.
Remind me not to listen to people on this forum!
HA HA HA!
At least, as a far as first year starters go, Joba’s outpitching Ross Ohlendorf…….oh wait, he’s not.
Maybe we converted the wrong guy?!?
At least, as a far as first year starters go, Joba’s outpitching Ross Ohlendorf…….oh wait, he’s not.
Maybe we converted the wrong guy?!?
At least, as a far as first year starters go, Joba’s outpitching Ross Ohlendorf…….oh wait, he’s not.
Maybe we converted the wrong guy?!?
Donnie
May 27th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Matsui is Jeckyll and Hyde, because as weak as he’s looked at times, he knocked the crap out of that ball. Great hit.
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…and there’s never any gradual arc back to potency. He looks miserable, and then, bang, he’s in a zone again. Maybe it’s the seaweed and green tea.
burnett is maddening. he’s pitched well but i’d love to see more than six innings out of the guy given he’ll have probably thrown about 110-115 pitches should he get through six.
“Awwww. And here I was thinking Matsui was washed up.
Remind me not to listen to people on this forum!
HA HA HA!”
::sticks tongue out at you::
Ollie
Hat trick?
No. Ryan’s daughter was sitting between him and his wife. She has short blond hair and was wearing sunglasses. They’re not in the front row, either.
“They’re all crazy. She’s the type that wouldn’t look at anyone twice.”
Doreen
Are you trying to say high maintenance in a PC kind of way?
GJ Gardner!
GGBG!
rookies are 3-17 against the yankees win wise…well that myth is gone
speed kills
Good bunt Brett!
Gardner really is a nice little player. Definitely a good weapon to have, in the starting lineup, or off the bench.
trisha, i don’t like my odds anymore.
THAT IS ATROCIOUS!!!! ATROCIOUS!!!
I only hit send once. Maybe because I make 3x as much sense as anyone on this board they posted it extra.
Nice bunt by grit. He should do it more often.
“Remind me not to listen to people on this forum!”
It’s a LoHud Lovefest!
(hey, don’t look at me, I defended Matsui last night *and* tonight. The view is good from my hellish snakepit)
Mike Francesa May 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
THAT IS ATROCIOUS!!!! ATROCIOUS!!!
ROFL
No way am I taking AJ out for Wang this early……for a multitude of reasons.
Mike Francesa May 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
THAT IS ATROCIOUS!!!! ATROCIOUS!!!
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Ryan’s Daughter good movie
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1317440000/tt0066319
it’s time for the DEATH BLOW!
Mike Francesa May 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
THAT IS ATROCIOUS!!!! ATROCIOUS!!!
POST OF THE DECADE….HAHAHA
Something about how young Holland looks makes me feel kinda bad for the kid.
Let’s add some more runs before Wanger comes in (if he does), I won’t be able to bear the negativity if he should come in and give up a few runs that may or may not cost the game.
Matsui looked like he was running on glass.
Now this is the brett I know and love. The only way he can get on consistently is bunting. he shows blips of hitting making this blog fall in love with him but he cannot hit several games in a row. he needs to be a permanent pinch runner
Maybe i just dont like him because he named his child *HUNTER GARDENER*.
It’s now:
TB 5
CLE 5
lets bust this open with the short bp. maybe get wang some work
pat -
I guess one could say that. But there’s high maintenance worth it and high maintenance not worth it. I would say she’s probably not. I can’t imagine why a guy would want to be with someone who doesn’t crack a smile.
They just showed her, Trisha.
I don’t listen to Francesa. What did he look at Ohlendorf’s game log, too?
I don’t listen to Francesa. What did he look at Ohlendorf’s game log, too?
Tampa only blowing a 5-0 lead to Cleveland today instead of 10-0.
Lets see if the Yankees can play some fundamental baseball
Mike Francesa May 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
THAT IS ATROCIOUS!!!! ATROCIOUS!!!
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I literally LOL’d when I read that post.
John,
Poor ABs, poor ABs. I’m glad he hit .430 this week. Next week he’ll hit .150. He’s Mr. Streaky with a lousy approach at the plate.
My problem with Cano is not that I think he stinks. I think he is stifling his potential when I see ABs like that (which is about every time he’s up).
She’s just outside the camera’s range on the right hand of your television screen.
Nice.
Very nice!
Cash baby!
Cash.
6-0 Yanks!
seriously mr. cash? wowza
What’s gotten into Cash?
WHO IS THIS MAN WEARING THE KEVIN CASH COSTUME!?!?
MEEEEEEEEEE AND MY BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do we see Wanger if we hit double digits?
Good. I always laugh when I hear Joba compared to David Price, Porcello, or someone else who doesn’t suck.
Good. I always laugh when I hear Joba compared to David Price, Porcello, or someone else who doesn’t suck.
tampa 5 clevelaand 5
Pel –
Donnie, seriously I wasn’t targetting anyone in particular, definitely not you! Heck you’re the one who pointed out that the Yankees weren’t facing three “devastating” pitchers this series!
*By the way, and I fully expect the Yankees to take this game – NO MORE TALK ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO BEAT GOOD TEAMS!*
Though I think the people who need to hear that likely aren’t here right now.
Jeter and Cash are vieing for the attention of the Blonde..
Suzyn says Cash played 3b for the sox last year HMMMMMMMM.
Hey guys – how is AJ looking tonight? Obviously he’s throwing SO ball, so he must be doing ok…..thanks!
I guess that the blond woman’s husband? boyfriend? she’s kissing?
ok this is why i dont like him. he almost got thrown out
to quote the foolish michael kay (but this is a good quote) “it is dangerous to fall in love with your own speed”
clearly he has fallen in love with himself and his own speed. like ive said, his “speed” has cost us games. and he needs to learn better judgement. if that catcher could handle a throw, greedy brett would be out right now
However, the guy she’s sitting next to looks like he’s no prize either.
I don’t think he’s paid her any attention. Maybe they had a fight on the way to the game. Maybe I need a life. 
Actually, the blond who is on the left-hand side of the television screen looks like a lot more fun! She’s animated and she smiles and the guy next to her actually has his arm around the back of her seat. They did not have a fight on the way to the game.
Come on Jete, one more run!
1. the guy looks like he’s her dad, which doesn’t mean he is.
2. she looked bored and glanced at her cell phone during Jeter’s AB.
3. She was visible during the replay of Jeter’s swing-and-miss during that AB and my opinion of her improved.
“MEEEEEEEEEE AND MY BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
The man wearing the Kevin Cash costume is the same one who heard that Posada will be joining up in Cleveland…
SA -
I think that’s the blond on the left who was kissing the guy.
Nice catch
at least it wasn’t a GIDP
wow, nice play
Oh, that was so not fair!!!
Bases loaded with alex??
I’m not so sure Gardner is in love with his own speed as much as he’s aware that it’s his most distinguishing characteristic.
pat
May 27th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
“They’re all crazy. She’s the type that wouldn’t look at anyone twice.”
Doreen
Are you trying to say high maintenance in a PC kind of way?
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She and I would go together like a wink and a smile.
Quality Start Tracker:
Ohlendorf: 6
Chamberlain: 4
Trisha, I know you weren’t targeting me, but I WAS beating the “Hideki looks old and broken down at the plate” drum pretty loudly, and I’ll admit that tonight he’s made me look silly. But he DID look like it was hurting him to bat for a solid week or so there. I have to wonder if he just has days where he hurts more than others, due to weather or something. For instance, Monday night, the storm from last night was on the way. Maybe the moisture or something was swelling his knees. He’s looked okay for the most part tonight. It’s baffling, really. But hey, I’ll take the confusion if he keeps hitting dingers like that.
Cash is money!!
Why all the hullaballoo over a blond girl in the stands?
I love some of the commenters on this blog. During Yankee wins we can go from talking about baseball to food to speculatory crowd watching, haha.
Its what makes this place worthwhile to come to.
Ohlendorf: 6
Chamberlain: 4
Ohlendorf: NL
Chamberlain: AL
Chamberlain > Ohlendorf (though I’m happy for the kid)
Ollie
May 27th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Quality Start Tracker:
Ohlendorf: 6
Chamberlain: 4
Ohlendorf TRUTHERS!
More shots of the blonde please
Stultus Magnus (Strom the Atom)
May 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
John,
Poor ABs, poor ABs. I’m glad he hit .430 this week. Next week he’ll hit .150. He’s Mr. Streaky with a lousy approach at the plate.
My problem with Cano is not that I think he stinks. I think he is stifling his potential when I see ABs like that (which is about every time he’s up).
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he’s trying to hit sharp curves and sliders off of a left hander. You couldn’t hit a beachball off of a tee, and, you’re sitting on your duff complaining about Cano?
“Jeter and Cash are vieing for the attention of the Blonde..
Suzyn says Cash played 3b for the sox last year HMMMMMMMM.”
I really don’t recall Cash playing third base for the Sox last year. If he did it must have been just for one or two games.
Well this should buy Cash another weeks worth of starts
Doreen May 27th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
SA –
I think that’s the blond on the left who was kissing the guy.
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Oh! lol
we’re getting better at catcher on Friday!! nice to have options!
Betsy -
I don’t know.
She just caught the eye of a few people here.
Jeter’s girl, Minka is hotter than that blondie.
I bet some of the guys are going to go looking for that girl after the game LOL
clearly he has fallen in love with himself and his own speed. like ive said, his “speed” has cost us games. and he needs to learn better judgement. if that catcher could handle a throw, greedy brett would be out right now
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Uh, Thompson waived him in.
Besides, Gardner’s aggressiveness is his biggest asset. It’s the same asset that allowed him to run wild last night and steal three bags.
madrigal looks like a pug
ATROCIOUS!!!
Betsy
May 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Why all the hullaballoo over a blond girl in the stands?
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Because we’re filthy rotten beasts and that’s what we do.
The College World Series is hot chick heaven
Oh no, tonight is quite reminiscent of the infamous food talk night.
I think I’ll just keep quiet
Oh, lol Doreen…….being a girl, I guess I don’t get it, lol…..
I missed it, but apparently Cash went up to AJ last inning and threw the rosin bag on the mound? Then AJ looked at him like he was messed up? What’s up with that? I guess that’s Cash’s way of showing his annoyance with AJ? Oh well, lol – he won’t be here for very long anyway
Doreen, I still haven’t seen her! That’s probably because I feel obligated to both watch our game and glare at the Sux game!
Wasn;t Magrigil the guy who gave up like 5 runs to us last year and we re-took the lead after Ponson gave it up?
I remember Chris Russo was killing the Texas manager for putting him in the game when the Rangers had a chance to sweep us.
Damon looks hurt
ouch
man – nice catch!
Is Damon alright?
if you guys are gunna keep going on and on about the blonde i’m gunna keep commenting on how great Jeter’s butt looks in baseball pants. It’s only fair
BTW nice catch Damon!
Did not like one bit how hard he hit that wall. We need Johnny for both his bat and because we have no more outfielders.
Scorpio
May 27th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Jeter’s girl, Minka is hotter than that blondie.
Havn’t seen her yet but willing to bet she’s nicer looking than the ones Robi and Melk were pictured with.
I guess that’s Cash’s way of showing his annoyance with AJ? Oh well, lol – he won’t be here for very long anyway
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I think it was Cash’s way of kinda giving AJ a breather, not annoyance
Great catch by Johnny. Looks like he had the breath knocked out of him. Heck, we can’t afford any more OF injuries.
what a catch Damon
I do have one thing to say. It is as if some of you have never seen a real life woman before. Maybe I just prefer brunettes.
Whew! Nice catch. AJ looked worried about JD.
The girl IS pretty though.
I AM IN LOVE WITH JOHNNY DAMON AND APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING HIM NOODLE ARM WHEN I DIDN’T WANT THE YANKEES TO SIGN HIM.
He really is an awesome player.
Really wish we could have blown it open then brought in Wang
It it still close enough (especially in this ballpark) where we need to use some good relievers and can’t just toss in Wang.
Whoah GB, didn’t expect that from you. Kind of silly, I can’t do what he does, so I can’t say anything? For your sake, I hope you don’t comment on anybody’s performance. Really man, harsh and not necessary.
It’s common knowledge that Cano has no patience. All I’m saying is I wish it wasn’t so because he could be that much better.
I’d meet the blonde under the O’Neil banner…oh, wait, what?
Oh yeah, CC will probably be at the game tomorrow. Say goodnight LeBron and company?
bah Boston just scored another run. 3-2….
Hope Johnny is okay. AJ looked very worried.
I am deeply saddened that the person who’s calling out people who bagged on Matsui isn’t praising the person/people who stuck by him.
But I’m just someone who prefers to think in terms of the positive rather than the negative.
ban·ter [ bánt?r ]
noun
Definition:
light teasing remarks: lighthearted teasing or amusing remarks that are exchanged between people
Get used to it, it is not going anywhere.
Wow. That pitch was just unfair. How many he up to fellas?
“I missed it, but apparently Cash went up to AJ last inning and threw the rosin bag on the mound? Then AJ looked at him like he was messed up? What’s up with that? I guess that’s Cash’s way of showing his annoyance with AJ? Oh well, lol – he won’t be here for very long anyway”
Cash was making a point to AJ. Basically without saying anything, he was telling him to concentrate on throwing strikes instead of concentrating on the hot blonde behind Cash in the stands!!
According to Baseball Ref. com, Kevin Cash played 15 innings over 4 games at 3rd for Boston last season – 2 chances, one PO and assist each, if I’m reading the chart correctly.
I don’t know if that qualifies him to be a backup 3B.
Uncle Ellsworth,
It’s Minka Kelly. Look her up. Jetes has better taste than A-Rod, that’s for sure. LOL.
Stultus,
Robbie Cano has greatly improved his patience this year. The changes are from this season and last season alone are dramatic. Give him time, he will eventually utilize all of his potential.
JR
May 27th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
“bah Boston just scored another run. 3-2….”
It was on a Jason Bay home run.
Beleive it or not, after Posada comes back when they hve to send the catcher to minors, it will be Cervelli and Cash will stay. They would like Cervelli to play every day and develop and be ready as a back up catcher next year. He will be called up in September any way.
A-Rod needs to guard the line.
Ugh. Top of the 6th and the slumdogs have tacked on a run. 3-2 Minny. I’m hoping that Gardy has a quick enough hook if he needs it.
AJ 6 K, 4 BB, 3 H, 0 ER
burnett has given up more walks than hits.
folks when u get old like me, u have to stand up close to the tv to check out the pretty ladies. excuse me a moment..
Its okay Uncle Ellsworth. I understand that half of the men on here are overweight, unmarried computer nerds who don’t have access to beautiful women (except through the computer!) I feel sorry for them.
Aaaaand now Cleveland is up 7-6. Crazy game going on in Ohio.
BBFan -
Good thing Cash has started to show some life at the plate. I think you’re correct. Cervelli down, Cash up.
Stultus Magnus (Strom the Atom)
May 27th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Whoah GB, didn’t expect that from you. Kind of silly, I can’t do what he does, so I can’t say anything? For your sake, I hope you don’t comment on anybody’s performance. Really man, harsh and not necessary.
It’s common knowledge that Cano has no patience. All I’m saying is I wish it wasn’t so because he could be that much better.
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He’s got the 7th most hits in the league and 10th in total bases and you’re complaining about him? I’d think that would either make you shut up or feel stupid….or both.
Scorpio
May 27th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Uncle Ellsworth,
It’s Minka Kelly. Look her up. Jetes has better taste than A-Rod, that’s for sure. LOL.
confused
I know who Minka is. Just saying Robi and Melk have learned NOTHING from Jeter.
please – that did not hit him
Nick in SF May 27th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
I am deeply saddened that the person who’s calling out people who bagged on Matsui isn’t praising the person/people who stuck by him.
But I’m just someone who prefers to think in terms of the positive rather than the negative.
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I’ve defended Matsui many many times on this blog the last couple of weeks.
He’s a streaky hitter and has been the last few years. He’ll look really bad for a couple of weeks and go on a tear for a couple of weeks and drive the ball to all fields.
Matsui will get it together. Many people on this board just don’t have an ounce of patience.
Gary G. –
Folks are just funning around. Don’t be so serious.
Let me say this. I don’t want to see AJ out for the 7th because he looks gassed. Don’t ruin a good thing for him.
c’mon AJ
Good job AJ…
6-0, why veras? are we ever going to see wang again?
jason bay has turned into ted williams
Phew!
burnett really makes it harder on himself than it needs to be. frustrating to watch. nice outing, though. trisha called it.
He is gassed. Lets start up wang..
AJ 118 pitches, probably done. I wonder if 6-0 is a big enough lead to venture out with Wang?
Gary G: so you’re calling off the charm offensive?
Not the highest quality, but here she is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....572201208/
texas tv shows veras warming up, not wang.
Nick in SF:
I am deeply saddened that the person who’s calling out people who bagged on Matsui isn’t praising the person/people who stuck by him.
Yeah, totally. The day Joba can outpitch Ohlendorf I promise I’ll be the first to give him his props.
PS 6>4
“Let me say this. I don’t want to see AJ out for the 7th because he looks gassed. Don’t ruin a good thing for him.”
um, he’s at 118 pitches so i don’t think that’s a concern. i suppose stranger things have happened.
CMW next?
I’m thinking that we will see Wang come in for the 7th-9th.
Well let me say I’m hoping that my thinking is correct!
Good job by AJ – I guess it wasn’t pretty from what I’m reading, but he battled and made the pitches when he had to. Sadly, I’m still nervous with a 6 run lead……..
This is a good opp for Wang, nice 6 run lead but not big enough to pitch without pressure.
Ortiz hitting a solid .194, going 0-3 today with a strikeout.
this 22 man roster needs a boost. wang, berroa and now injured melky…
that’s a cryin shame is Veras goes out instead of Wang
Gary G
you forgot uneducated french fry eaters
It seems you relish the role as antagonist – it takes all types. Go for it.
Can’t teach that. Sweet, Robi.
kasey – I hadn’t noticed his pitch count!
Gary,
It seems, to me, like that patience came in the first 3 weeks and has since abandoned him. But if you can prove me wrong, that there has been a dramatic change, then I’m for it. I’m curious, what’s Cano’s average pitches seen per AB this season, so far, verses last season. Can somebody provide that number for me? Or tell me where to get it?
Thanks.
Whoah, was Cano’s count 2-1 when he hit that? Gary, you may be right…
JR
May 27th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
if you guys are gunna keep going on and on about the blonde i’m gunna keep commenting on how great Jeter’s butt looks in baseball pants. It’s only fair BTW nice catch Damon!
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I would hope if you’re doing that, you’re at least a female.
I certainly hope not Wang. This is nothing personal against him, but I don’t trust him out there yet and a 6 run lead is not that big……with a few hits, the lead could easily be halved. Then, even if you take him out, the underbelly of the pen (actually the whole pen is one giant underbelly, except for Mo) would be called on to save the game.
Girardi didn’t use Wang last night and won’t use him tonight.
So, predictably, activating him last week was a terrible knee jerk reaction and makes things harder to get Wang right.
Even Wang himself would rather go down to Scranton and pitch every five days. Sitting on his hands in the pen isn’t going to do him any good.
A few “meaningless” runs would be nice.
>Just saying Robi and Melk have learned NOTHING from Jeter.
to be fair, cano and cabrera have 3 strikes against them:
1. salary
2. tales of legend
3. they’re not derek jeter
“jason bay has turned into ted williams”
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he’s roughly 10 for his last 50 at about a .200 clip
It’s called a streak. He was on one. Now he’s in a slump.
When he hits even close to Ted W, I’ll be impressed.
C’mon… Do any of you trust Wang to protect a 6 run lead in this ballpark against this lineup?
It makes sense to bring Wang in when you are down 6 runs… then it doesn’t matter how many he gives up. Now if he gives up a couple runs, he is going to get lifted anyway.
geez! Matsui!!! what a beast my son said!!
look at matsui!
HOLY GODZILLA…bring on Wang!!
I HEART Hideki!
I don’t know if it is old news or not, but there is a video of a shirtless Melky Cabrera in a hotel room with porn star Mary Carey floating around.
It is basically just Melky standing there eating peanuts and speaking broken English while the porn slut lies in bed and asks him pointless questions that he doesn’t understand.
Its actually from last year because she calls him #28 (maybe that is why he sucked so bad), but today is the first I have seen or heard about it.
Like I said, this may be old news, so those who have seen it can disregard. Those who have not, enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TmtpcgRv7k
Matsui coming on…
Godzilla!
Welcome back, Godzilla!
That Hideki – wow!
GreenBeret7 May 27th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
JR
May 27th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
if you guys are gunna keep going on and on about the blonde i’m gunna keep commenting on how great Jeter’s butt looks in baseball pants. It’s only fair BTW nice catch Damon!
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I would hope if you’re doing that, you’re at least a female.
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Haha of course. But don’t act like you guys havent noticed!!!
Wow matsui goes deep twice. Very nice.
Hai! Domo aregatoooooooooooooo!
Hideki-Saaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!
Yeah, that Matsui is so useless. Why is he still on this team?
GODZILLA IS BACK!!
STOMPING ALL OVER ARLINGTON!!
Wow Bets. I certainly trust Wang out there!
Looks like anyone who said Matsui still had the goods was spot on!
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Alright Girardi you are out of excuse now!
2 more runs for Wang, start him now!!!!
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!?
Hideki Matsui reads LoHud, and likes to make me look stupid. Keep hittin’ ‘em, Hideki. I will gladly look like a fool for this kind of production.
I am hardly the antagonist of this board. I am just honest when honesty is needed.
Case in point: Brunettes are more attractive
It’s a thrilla from Godzilla!!!!!!
Nick in SF
May 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Not the highest quality, but here she is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....572201208/
good night in the morning!
“A few “meaningless” runs would be nice.”
There you go.
Nice Matsui
And now please a few words from the experts who wanted to trade Matsui for a bag of ball…
It’s Cashman’s fault.
You can’t hamstring your manager like this and have him in a spot where he is forced to put a rehab project out on the mound when we’re trying to win games.
Monday would have been perfect, up 11-0. But he had only had 2 days off after pitching 3 innings, so he couldn’t go.
This is totally unfair to Girardi. He’s going to get blamed when Wang rots in the pen and it isin’t his fault.
I would hope if you’re doing that, you’re at least a female.
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Why would you hope that?
Now it’s 9-0 If Wang can not get into this game,I am done with Joe Girardi….
If they don’t bring in Wang with an 8 run lead, then the gig is up. Something is wrong and the Yanks don’t want to fess up.
COME ON MINNY!!!
While I believe they can win 3-2, I would like to see a little cushion just for the heck of it…
Yankees on bench: “BOO YA GODZILLA!”
Sterling: “A THRILLA FROM GODZILLA!”
Matsui: “F**K i have to run again”
H-Mat looks looks to be about 78 running around the bases…that said, my boy went deep twice tonight!
I think you gotta give CMW a chance and show some faith in him, every inning that goes by with hm in the ‘pen is just making matters worse…just keep him on a short leash!
This should be a safe enough lead for Wang to pitch.
“Brunettes are more attractive”
Agreed there.
Gary G.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Its okay Uncle Ellsworth. I understand that half of the men on here are overweight, unmarried computer nerds who don’t have access to beautiful women (except through the computer!) I feel sorry for them.
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and, yet, here you are, being a total jerk on a sports board, at 10:30 PM while your superstar model wife sits docilely at your feet, waiting for you to explain to strangers just how unforunate and pathetic they are. Have fun believing, Donald Trump, Jr.
I hope Melky can get better girls than that.
I know some pretty good looking girls that have been with the biggest scrubs in baseball (including a girl who was with Soriano and he couldnt speak a word of English).
Melky needs to stay away from that trash.
I saw that video of Melky Cabrera just a few hours ago. Melky needs to look for better women.
Not only is she a hideous porn star but she is also a cocaine and alcohol addict. Since this video is old, I am hoping he has learned from his ways.
Matt K,
that is so funny!!! and probably so true!!
AJ pitched a good game. But he’s becoming our Dice K in that he throws wayyyyy too many pitches. He needs to go more than 6 innings. They need to hide Joba’s eyes during AJ’s starts lol.
Meanwhile, a great offensive game for the Yanks. Here’s hoping it’s Veras-proof.
If Wang doesn’t come into this game, then something is up. Another injury or something fishy.
I got ESPN on, anyone watching the YES feed? Anyone up in our pen?
Jealousy is not becoming, Green Beret. I am not with my wife but on the road on a business trip. Thanks for showing such interest in my apparently luxurious lifestyle.
Congrats to the Matsuiteers who stuck by Hideki!!
(she totally just slumped over and then yawned while Cash was at bat)
the genius behind bringing wang in tonight is twofold: wang gets work, plus he’ll likely give up enough runs to get mo a little work, as well.
Wang needs to pitch the last 3 innings. Get his confidence up.
well played kasey, LOL
If I’m the bleepin’ Players’ Union, I don’t let my guys on the field with the rain coming down like that.
This isn’t the bleepin’ NFL.
That joke of a series at our place vs. Boston cost each team an important player; we lost Jorge and Boston lost Youkilis.
I kept moaning, someone’s gonna get hurt – so of course, it’s our switchy OPS-y catcher, whose absence sunk our season last year.
There is more here than meets the eye with Wang.
UPDATE, 10:25 p.m.: Jose Veras warming up. Burnett’s pitch count was rising. Wang could have been warming up 20 minutes ago.
He’s certainly not pitching tomorrow. That’ll be six days of doing nothing.
“Congrats to the Matsuiteers who stuck by Hideki!!”
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goddamn right!
Drive 4-5 May 27th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
AJ pitched a good game. But he’s becoming our Dice K in that he throws wayyyyy too many pitches. He needs to go more than 6 innings. They need to hide Joba’s eyes during AJ’s starts lol.
Meanwhile, a great offensive game for the Yanks. Here’s hoping it’s Veras-proof.
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Funny thing is AJ’s mentoring Joba on how to pitch
“Case in point: Brunettes are more attractive”
I’m down with that!
I hate Girardi. where the heck is Wang?
“That’ll be six days of doing nothing.”
or nearly two months of doing nothing worthwhile for his team.
Why is Veras in?
Jose Veras? WE WANT WANG (no homo)
does anyone know if AJ is married?
I would hope if you’re doing that, you’re at least a female.
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Why would you hope that?
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Because Green Beret is not only jealous but also homophobic. What a winner!
Then the question is why does Veras need to be in this game? He is currently one of the relievers who is throwing the best.
4-2 Twins! HBP with bases loaded.
whose food did wang spit into?
Anyone ever think that Joe knows more than you? He knows something you don’t. End of story.
“Funny thing is AJ’s mentoring Joba on how to pitch”
It all makes sense now!!!
Min scores a run on a hbp
Don’t give up on your future husband Derek Jeter
“geez! Matsui!!! what a beast my son said!!”
Sorry, Matsui is no beast compared to these beasts!!
http://www.who-sucks.com/peopl.....y-pictures
Cuddyer hit by pitch with bases loaded. 4-2 twins
to tell everyone the truth, i hope that veras gets wild so the yanks send him down. As long as he doesn’t blow it.
I cannot stand this guy being on this team
Jeter’s Future Wife May 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
does anyone know if AJ is married?
nop, apparently girls didnt like his nipple rings.
Matsui time!
Matsui basically surges up in summer.
poor CMW
masterson hits a guy with the bases loaded….. 4-2
What do you have to say to veras in order for him to throw strikes??
You have a 20 run lead?
I can only wonder what will be going through Joe’s mind if Veras walks the leadoff man.
lets go twins
“UPDATE, 10:34 p.m.: Nice game for Daisuke Burnett. 6 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 4 walks, 7 strikeouts, 118 pitches.”
LOL Pete. Sadly we can’t make fun of Dice-BB anymore, we have our own version of him
Veras in.
Yeah, this Wang situation is fishy
Aj And Family
http://newsday.image2.trb.com/.....075839.jpg
twins better have a solid bridge to nathan..
Matt K,
ewe, seriously he has nipple rings? come on!
Oh dear dear dear! Justin Masterson hits a batter with the bases loaded. Whatever will become of us?!? 4-2 Minny
We like to have fun on here, Gary G, when we can. It happens rarely sometimes, so I’m sure you’ll allow us to indulge occasionally.
Jeter’s Future Wife
May 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
does anyone know if AJ is married?
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He is – the wife and kids were there when they formally introduced him at Yankee Stadium
Gary G.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Jealousy is not becoming, Green Beret. I am not with my wife but on the road on a business trip. Thanks for showing such interest in my apparently luxurious lifestyle.
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Believe me clown, there’s nothing about you that anybody needs to be jealous of, unless it’s your mail order diploma from the University of Columbia-Missouri.
Maybe they want to get Wang more time to warm up and he’ll pitch the last 2 innings?
ok, Veras – outs…let’s not make this interesting
god, he sooo sucks
MO will be pitching tonight.
Jeter’s Future Wife May 27th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Matt K,
ewe, seriously he has nipple rings? come on!
Yeah..and a picture of Bruce Lee tattoo’d on his tricep.
At least he didn’t walk him
congrats verA$$, you throw a 6 pitch AB and still give up a hit. Wang could have done that no?
maybe veras does a good job cleaning the uniforms so that is why he is on the club
“LOL Pete. Sadly we can’t make fun of Dice-BB anymore, we have our own version of him”
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AJ is actually much cheaper at least (and has plenty of time to turn things around – starting with tonight).
AJ 5/82M
Daisuke 6/125-150M (depending on how you amortize the $50+ lump sum payment)
thanks Rishi, just wondering…he’s kind of a strange one, with the tattoos and etc.
AJ’s wife’s name is Karen. And yeah she was there with the kid when they introduced him.
I don’t get why no WANG?
Maybe, because this stadium can turn into HR derby? Can’t coddle him much longer. The yanks really looking bad with the handling of Wang.
Gary G.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
I would hope if you’re doing that, you’re at least a female.
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Why would you hope that?
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Because Green Beret is not only jealous but also homophobic. What a winner!
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I think that was someone with the username JR. Surprisingly, that poster has not responded
Jeter’s Future Wife- Go for Swisher, hes single. Not as loaded, but single nonetheless.
To Veras credit, the 2-2 pitch to Satly caught a whole lot of the plate.
wang and berroa are entangled in a serious game of checkers, from what i am being told.
I’m not lying..whenever Veras pitches, I break out in hives. He has absolutely no idea where the ball is going.
longest inning ever – can you please get OUTS
(Weak suggestion since I’m running out of guesses…)
Maybe Girardi wants to save him for a longer outing?
I am truly upset for Wang. At least if Joe has shared some information with him by now, then I don’t care. But if he is sitting there gathering dust with no information whatsoever, that is pure crap.
here’s what I found about AJ’s wife, Karen…kinda interesting
http://umpbump.com/press/2009/.....n-burnett/
trisha – OPPC member
May 27th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Oh dear dear dear! Justin Masterson hits a batter with the bases loaded. Whatever will become of us?!? 4-2 Minny
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Thou art the mother of good news!
Go for Jeter, he’s single, loaded and doesn’t look his age.
I’m the original poster. Green Beret was the one with the “i hope you’re a female comment”.
” Nice game for Daisuke Burnett. 6 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 4 walks, 7 strikeouts, 118 pitches.”
Aw, Burnett’s line looks Madduxian compared to Santana’s 6IP, 3 ER, 6 BB, 11 K, 120 pitches tonight.
Wang will have his turn. Things have a funny way of working itself out.
Veras sucks.
Warm up MO
Wang could have done that
VERAS IS A PIECE OF GARBAGE
Man our bullpen SUCKS!!!!!!!
What does Wang need to in order to get a chance to pitch?
Good Job Jose Mesa!
Christina,
go for Swisher? lol, and how would u suggest I go about doing that? hmmmm, I guess I can just call in a favor and get a pass to the clubhouse after a game…(don’t I wish!)
ok – now get outs…
Well there goes Wang’s chance to pitch, thanks Veras.
I beat Pete with the Dice K comparison by 4 minutes. I want my money back. lol
Could Jose Veras be any worse???
Oh nuts. Now we truly have to hear Veras stuff. And what can I say, he gave up a homer.
veras…stinks
Why do I get the feeling that Mo will be pitching in a save situation?
bodhisattva – OPPC member
May 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Gary G.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
I would hope if you’re doing that, you’re at least a female.
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Why would you hope that?
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Because Green Beret is not only jealous but also homophobic. What a winner!
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I think that was someone with the username JR. Surprisingly, that poster has not responded
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She responded and knew it was said in a joking manner. Gary Gilmore didn’t get that. He’s too busy being a jackass.
please get veras off this team
PLEASE…he brings nothing to the table for this team. If he could go 3 or 4 innings at a time yeah he would be good in mop up situations. but there is nothing worse than a bad middle reliever who has no command
Enough with Jose, already. What, is he trying to replace Edwar in the HR hitting contest?
hahaha, she looked bored as Kinsler was hitting the homer too.
Come on, Girardi!
JR
May 27th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
I’m the original poster. Green Beret was the one with the “i hope you’re a female comment”.
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Oh, my mistake. And my apologies.
maybe what happpened is girardi called for number 40, but the pen thought he said 41.
either way, veras sucks. but he has potential. hahaha
Veras simply has to be replaced…
Does anyone believe in a vengeful, angry god that requires human sacrifice?
If so, may I volunteer Jose Veras as the next instrument of appeasing your dark deity?
Is there some reason Veras is on this team? And pitching while Wang gathers dust?
If Yankees keep treating Wang like this, he’ll likely walk in the end of the season and sign with the Dodgers where he’ll be playing for a manager who truly cares about him.
Then I’d like to see a world series b/w Dodgers vs Yankees where Wang shuts the line-up down.
please send veras away.
Veras is not GARBAGE. Veras did a good job his last time out and got the win.
Veras is inconsistent. There’s a difference.
Phil Coke is up. Are you serious, Girardi? Like, really?
I actually met DJ in Vegas, spoke to him at Body English (club at Hard Rock) on their VIP level…he was everything everyone thinks he is, in person.
STRIKES!!!
bang bang~ hr by veras, the more joe girardi want get into wang’s way the worse result he will get….. because he is against the law
Awesome.. I came here to see if there was info on Wang since he’s not in there… It looks like everyone is wondering the same thing.. What are they not telling us?
at this rate, burnett will not see his 3rd win tonight..
veras is as painful to watch as a needle going through your retina
if he cannot throw strikes with a 6 run lead, why is he on the team? just wondering
Can we get somebody else up in the pen? Preferably Robertson.
It wouldn’t be a Yankees game without Phil Coke warming up.
Kevin May 27th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
If Yankees keep treating Wang like this, he’ll likely walk in the end of the season and sign with the Dodgers where he’ll be playing for a manager who truly cares about him.
Then I’d like to see a world series b/w Dodgers vs Yankees where Wang shuts the line-up down.
Yes and then A-rod will walk because the Yankees are Jeter’s team, he’ll go to Boston and their win the World Series…Get real.
PUT WANG IN THE FREAKING GAME!
wow, Veras is looking mighty ugly.
Why not Robertson, if you won’t use Wang? just to get them into a game.
Girardi’s gotta chill with Coke imo… Too much coke never a good thing.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
wow, veras sucks. please, yankee brass – do with him what you did with edwar. keeping him on because he has no options left – dumbest thing ever.
and btw – that blonde is hot. she’s sitting towards the right side of the screen, not visible from the default ESPN screen feed.
Veras. Walk. POS.
Veras is a thrower, not a pitcher. Give Melancon another change!
Is that Wang stretching? a glimmer of something?
what’s it gonna take for girardi to leave the dugout and pull this assclown? another 2 run HR?
Yankees pen isn’t nearly as bad as the Blue Jays pen was today.
That’d be neat Kevin, only if Wang was a Free Agent at the end of the year… which he’s not.
What does it take to realize Veras can’t pitch?? Please take him out. 6 run lead is not a sure thing against the Rangers!
So the ESPN guys are looking for Jeff Nelson and Mike Stanton – that was soooo 10 years ago
even the ESPN announcers think CMW should be up
Well sorry, JR is a loser homophobe, Green Beret is just a loser.
Wow Veras is awful. Please just get rid of this guy. Kyle could throw 100 but what does that mean?
I thought yesterday was disrespectful for Wang. Today is brutal.
Girardi doesn’t even give the ball to the 2-time 19 winner for 3 innings with 8-run lead. Who to defend Girardi’s decision this time?
Veras sucks? I didn’t see this coming!
I would get out of here if I were Wang after 2010.
No options. 96 mph FB.
Well at least our bullpen is not the only bullpen that sucks
. Our bullpen is jackel and hyde
Aaron- not until Friday at the earliest.
Girardi does not look very happy.
What awful body language.
that isnt coke, thats robertson no?
So, how about that blond????
Man, the mood here changes on a dime.
this texas team can put up runs in a hurry. at 8-2, this game is nowhere near over.
when cashman watches the game, do you think he is hearing the play by play also? Would he be watching YES or listen to sterling/waldman?
Whatever Veras is… he’s unreliable. I have to believe Robertson or Melancon at this point are better options than Veras.
I hope Veras, Ramirez and Alby pay for Coke’s arm surgery when the time comes…This is a joke already with Veras. As Melancon sits in the minors Veras continues to try and find the plate.
i am sorry trisa but veras is complete trash. this guy can’t throw a strike if his life depended on it. the only time that he gets outs is when someone swings at the first pitch. whenever someone goes deep into a count, he is going to walk them. the guy is throwing breaking balls on a 3-2 count with a 6 run lead. i mean come on man, get your head in the game
Sweet Walk Veras…Please hurt yourself and go on the DL, since this is the only place Girardi cant use you.
Trcia,,,Veras sucks…1 nice outing & 3 total crap outings…..GB, You’re scaring the kiddies
Goes to show you the confidence Veras has throwing a 3-2 slider up 6 runs. I think its time to cut the cord on Veras, 16 earned runs and 14 walks in 20 innings is just horrible. He and Edwar can start a wiffle ball team.
Get Veras out of this bullpen and off of this team! I don’t trust him in a 8-0 game!
If facial expressions mean anything, the look on Joe’s face when he got to the mound said it all. He didn’t even look at Veras, just took the ball and looked past him. He then had a look that seemed to say, “I can’t do this anymore”. At least, that’s what I hope it said.
Cashman, get on the phone please.
Have a feeling that is the last we’re going to see of Jose Veras.
THIS IS ATROCIOUS!!!
Wow Veras is awful. Please just get rid of this guy. Kyle could throw 100 but what does that mean?
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Please Kyle was way way better than Veras, at least we know Kyle would strike out the side evey now and then, and he could actually pitch with a 8 run lead.
Hey Girardi
VERAS SUCKS.
kthxbye.
The *over mgr strikes again* ,a 0 game and he waste a reliever *again* . *AJ’S* psyche needed to go 7 at least,He allowed Phil 8.
What Blonde, Doreen?
Why is Wang not coming in? Why is our manager an idiot at times?
Charlie Steiner > Suzyn Waltnuts
sunny615
Oh yea I forgot about it.
Fine, he should walk after 2010 season then.
throw some strikes guys.
It’s pretty bad when you cant be comfortable with an 8 run lead with only 9 outs to go. The worst thing is that we all know this isnt the last time we’ve seen Veras.
Ok – here we go…2 quick outs
“No options. 96 mph FB.”
Can’t hit the broad side of a barn at high noon.
I’m off to dinner with some business associates. Any more questions before I go, Green Beret? My sheet thread count? The number of airline miles I have accumulated? The model of blackberry I am using? Write down a little list and you can ask me tomorrow!
I think Veras has some dirt on Cashman or something. Maybe he caught him stealing some seats from the people at Steiner Sports and now Cash has to keep him on the roster. Honestly, who would claim Veras if he was DFA’ed?
RalphieD (OPPC all day)
May 27th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
veras is as painful to watch as a needle going through your retina
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He can’t throw strikes because he has some kind of arm injury
Can anyone on this blog throw stikes??
So Jake Peavy is garbage and Veras is not garbage?
We’re going to need the Mario Brothers so straighten this out!
i love that girardi passes over wang for two games and half the board wants him to walk after 2010. hilarious.
i love that he can go to LA where a manager “truly cares about him.” how touching.
if girardi’s not pitching wang, there’s a reason. we may not know it, but there’s a reason. i’m sure he’s a sweet kid but, good god, folks.
I’d rather Wang un-earn his spot than see an unrealiable guy like Veras pitch ugly.
wow people on this blog need to chill out. First of all, I am a female commenting on a cute butt( and i only said this to “annoy” all the guys drooling over the blonde), so how that makes me homophobic, I am not sure. Second, Green Beret was obviously kidding when he responded to me.
Lighten up everyone
a couple shutdown bullpen guys is what is separating us from being a complete team in my mind
Giradi is a big liar.
Striking out Hamilton is not bad.
Thank U.
Finally saw the blonde. As far as I can see, very very pretty.
Watch Robertson Veras, see – that’s a strike.
G.Love I thinks your right about Jose Salsa
As of tonight, Jose Veras:
19.2 IP, 17 H, 14 R, 14 ER, 3 HR, 14 BB, 15 SO
That’s bad. Send him down, throw a rock in AAA and bring up whoever the rock hits.
oh my god, he can throw strikes. what a concept
send down or DFA veras PLEASE. I BEG THE YANKEES
“The over mgr strikes again ,a 0 game and he waste a reliever again . AJ’S psyche needed to go 7 at least,He allowed Phil 8.”
Yeah that’s what we need.. the pitcher who has a large history of arm injuries to throw 120+ pitches in an 8-0 game.
All to help your psyche.
See what happens when you throw strikes.
Joe Girardi can be utterly mystifying. He really can. His bull pen management is bizarre.
What hold does Jose Veras have over him?
Why Wang is not in the game is inexplicable. It is simply not Wang’s fault that the yankees have been so utterly short sighted in handling his stint on the DL/minors. Calling him up based on Joba getting hit on the leg was ridiculous.
Not using him in this game in preference to Jose Veras is abysmal managing.
Wang couldn’t do this?
And outside of Wang – why was this lead not big enough to give Robertson a shot before?
Instead of putting Robertson in in a situation which would maximize his ability to succeed Girardi instead choses to optimize the situation for Veras and sticks Robertson with Veras’s mess.
And if Robertson “fails” he’ll be cast outside the circle of trust again.
But Veras will be out there without a doubt.
He can do no wrong because he has “experience.”
at least that inning is finally over
didnt joe say in pregame we would see wanger tonight?
beedogs
May 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
“No options. 96 mph FB.”
Can’t hit the broad side of a barn at high noon.
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He asked why.
well kasey, there are some fair weather fans and then there are fans who support guys who have done good for this team. If you can’t deal with that. Don’t. You’ve stated your Wang derision enough times. we know where you stand.
Robertson moving up the ladder
Watching these characters it makes me miss Proctor and even Farnsworth found the plate more then these guys. It just goes to show how bad these guys are. Robertson might get hit around but at least he throws strikes. He shows you much more then Veras.
Its gonna be a stupid reason why he didn’t pitch Wang. Same stupid reason why he used Aceves 2 days in a row. He used Ace in a game 11-1.
Benny Blanco May 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Can anyone on this blog throw stikes??
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Benny- I have a 45mph fastball and a nice changeup as part of my repertoire. I could be there by Friday.
Could someone else please tell Christina about the blond???
This very good looking blond woman sitting on the 3rd base side of home plate caught the eye of a few people here. We’ve been referencing her most of the evening. She’s in the shot when a right-handed hitter is up and it’s a close camera angle.
I think she’s pretty but she looks bored and she doesn’t smile.
Did AJ leave the easy bake oven home ?
Like I said earlier David Robertson is the answer. Strikeouts. I vote him for the bridge to mo
Kyle Farnsworth’s “pickoff” move nearly sent me to the hospital.
Great job by Robertson.
Hopefully, that moves him up on the pecking order.
Just need to DFA Veras, call up Melancon and they may be able to piece together a bullpen.
Veras must have some compromising photos of Girardi.
The Nolan Ryan Rule: “If a starting pitcher is winning the game or it is tied, keep him in no matter what inning, no matter how many pitches he’s thrown.”
Unfortunately for Wang – he needs to be pitching every 5 days in Scranton right now, but he’s not injured so they can’t DL him and they’d have to DFA him to option him to the minors and every team out there would take him. So how to do work a guy who obviously needs the work, when you know that if you throw him out there, he’d get smoked. Not ideal.
I can throw strikes. But you traded me for Nady.
I can throw strikes. But you traded me for Nady.
nice job by Robertson.
Still don’t get Wang, until we get a reason why not using him the past 3 days, I will reserve judgement.
Perhaps the object was to get through this inning and give Wang a clean inning to start and let him finish the game.
come on guys..its think its pretty obvious…veras must hold the list of 103 players that took steroids and girardi knows that he is on it!…the yankees cant have their manager exposed!
*yes i know i said steroids*
Doreen- Thanks, I haven’t seen her yet. Does she look like a baseball fan or a girl that was dragged to the game?
kasey, I have to agree with you about Wang.
I don’t know why Joe isn’t using Wang, none of us do. For all we know, he may be fighting off swine flu. But pro baseball strikes me as a very bottom line sort of thing – if you do your job better than the other guy, and help preserve the manager’s job, then you play. Maybe I’m being too simplistic about it, but that’s how I see it.
Again, this is the blond in question:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....572201208/
“Oh, my mistake. And my apologies.
bodhi, that’s what you get for straying from baseball chat into the ‘community’ stuff.
this guy is STILL pitching. geez
couldn’t agree with SJ44 any more … PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD dfa veras.
Yeah…. because using Veras in a 8-0 game is awful
So when would you like him to pitch in a 1 run game?
“Veras has thrown 20 innings and allowed 17 hits and 13 walks.”
Yes, Pete – we know. Veras sucks. Now can you relay these stats to Girardi so that he can see that Veras sucks? Thanks.
Benny Blanco May 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Can anyone on this blog throw stikes??
My fastball blisters across the plate at 55mph
sunny, you are definitely right that Veras is unrealiable. That’s as far as I am willing to go with the putdowns.
I agree with Kasey. You have to figure there is a reason, a credible reason, Wang wasn’t used yet. Because we don’t have a pulse on it doesn’t mean it isn’t there. So we just wait it out. Wang doesn’t need to go anywhere but back into the rotation when the time is right.
Arizona is going nowhere fast – do what it takes to get Chad Qualls.
NO Wang needs work. If you’re not gonna use why did you call him up? Melancon could be up. Anyone could be up.
Proctor was considered a “good” reliever?
Christina -
Girl dragged to game.
damon just got k’d by someone twice his age.
“Jeter and Cash are vieing for the attention of the Blonde..
Suzyn says Cash played 3b for the sox last year HMMMMMMMM.”
I really don’t recall Cash playing third base for the Sox last year. If he did it must have been just for one or two games.
I remember he did. I think it was an extra inning game, and I think Dustin might have caught, but I am not sure.
It is up to Cashman to tell Girardi when he should let Wang pitch
If you leave these decision to a manager, the right decision will never be made. Manager’s want to win every game.
Ultimately, it is Cashman’s fault for not telling Girardi when to use Wang. Isn’t this what the GM is for?
Some of the anger here is misplaced.
Addendum – the Jose Veras fascination, though, I still don’t understand.
“Proctor was considered a “good” reliever?”
He was until Torre overused him and turned his arm into silly puddy.
For the 10,000th time, they CANT send Veras down because he is OUT of options.
They can only DFA or trade him if they want to get rid of him.
Either plan is fine with me.
Robertson doesn’t have the greatest command but it’s better then Veras.
Could be because his mechanics are far better then Veras. Anyway good to see Robertson get more of a shot here. Next in line is Melancon.
A CMW sighting in the bullpen!
hey wow…wang is alive!!!
Thank you God in heaven. Wang warming.
hmm strange. Now Wang is warming. Maybe they are looking to move him to the pen?
Tampa has a 5-0 lead after one inning and blows the lead. It’s now 8-7 Cleveland. That should be a fun finish of the bullpens.
If Wang needs work, put him back on the DL.
If he is up here, he will pitch in games where we are getting blown out.
Matt:
Great, now I have to eail pete.
Matt:
Great, now I have to eail pete.
SJ44, I’d go with DFA. At this point, he’s already proven to be unreliable and is by that course, of no use. Pulling a trade would result in less than desirable return… if anything.
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Tampa has a 5-0 lead after one inning and blows the lead. It’s now 8-7 Cleveland. That should be a fun finish of the bullpens.
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And the Yankees are in Cleveland next, right…good stuff
and, it’s nice to see Wang getting in
email*
Pete,
If they dump Berroa they can’t pinch hit for Pena if he spots A-Rod, Jeter, or Cano a day in the field and they’re DHing.
Still worth dumping Berroa but I undrstand the reasoning.
Maybe they didn’t plan on using Wang when the game was 6-0, but by the time it was 8-0 there was not enough time to warm so they waited until the next inning?
“For the 10,000th time, they CANT send Veras down because he is OUT of options.”
Actually, that would be for the 1,000,000th time.
scorpio,
my wang derision aside, my point in my last post was that if wang’s not pitching, it’s not because joe girardi gets a kick out of spiting him and hurting the feelings of his fans. if wang’s not pitching, it’s because the organization doesn’t want him pitching. he’s injured, or something else is up, but it’s not an arbitrary thing.
just because we’re not party to the reason doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Nick in SF
May 27th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Again, this is the blond in question:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....572201208/
“Oh, my mistake. And my apologies.
bodhi, that’s what you get for straying from baseball chat into the ‘community’ stuff.
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Not sorry for my deliberately flip question, sorry for attributing the comment to the wrong poster.
It’s like those bumper stickers: “Thank God I’m Irish.”
I’d love to have a counter sticker:
And if you weren’t, a***h***, you’d still be an a***h****.
Is this the point at which I’m supposed to wink back or something?
Let’s give this a try:
“Some of the anger here is misplaced.”
Agreed and guilty as charged, but a lot of it is a residue of frustration and lack of information.
Grrrrrrrr!
Bringing Wang in is a good thing. The first sign of trouble, they can pull him.
If Veras gets sent down, who’s gonna claim the scrub? no one.
maybe there won’t be trouble.
It just goes to show what Girardi thinks of Wang’s stuff and pitching right now. He didn’t trust him in a close game yesterday but tonight he will pitch him with a big lead hoping he doesn’t give up 6 runs. Girardi hasn’t been given much as far as a bullpen but his managing has been extremely odd.
yeah CMW, now pitch your arse off!
gary g.
don’t dig in next time you show up here
there he is, folks! is everyone so excited! it’s chien-ming wang! the most beloved pitcher ever to carry an ERA of 35 around! god’s gift is back in action!
I don’t get Giradi
carl – There’s always Tomko
Rishi
May 27th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
GreenBeret7
May 27th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Tampa has a 5-0 lead after one inning and blows the lead. It’s now 8-7 Cleveland. That should be a fun finish of the bullpens.
*~*~*~*~
And the Yankees are in Cleveland next, right…good stuff
and, it’s nice to see Wang getting in
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I’d be happy to see one clean inning and two scoreless innings to close out the game.
I really don’t like the role the Yankees are using Wang in. He’s a freaking ace, not a reliever.
wang has alot to prove…go wanger..
“Tampa has a 5-0 lead after one inning and blows the lead. It’s now 8-7 Cleveland. That should be a fun finish of the bullpens.”
It’s also proof that inconsistent bullpens is a problem that plagues several teams, not just us (although at times, it seems like our pen is the only one under-performing).
Wang! Nice to see you.
c’mon Wang…
Rachel – Why should Wang be trusted in a close game? He has a 25 ERA and is completely messed up.
The only spot you can use him is in blowouts.
BAM
wanger..there you go.
he’s missing low, which is good. his sinker is at 90, which is not.
Let’s see what Wang can do…
Maybe this is why Joe has kept using Veras, and put him out there tonight – because he knows this is the end of the line for Veras, and he wants to give him every shot before he gets DFA’d. Something to do with loyalty.
Even though I think Veras has worn out his welcome here, I can respect Joe for the try. To a point.
I’m sure he’s a good enough guy, but he might benefit from a change of scenery. Maybe with the Mets.
bodhi: no worries. And don’t wink back, a lot of ugly accusations have been flying around the blog lately.
You have a long way to go Wang.
was that a groundball..??
Wang is the man.
I really don’t like the role the Yankees are using Wang in. He’s a freaking ace, not a reliever.
say that to cc sabathia and roy halladay’s faces, please.
Hughes is probably sitting in the dug out saying Wang please don’t keep your ball down so I don’t have to go back to AAA. lol
good movement on the sinkers
Laura – Win together, strike out alone!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
“For the 10,000th time, they CANT send Veras down because he is OUT of options.”
Actually, that would be for the 1,000,000th time.
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What’s a couple of zeros between friends?
No, this isn’t a riddle….just a remark.
Wang to the rotation…Joba to the pen.
If he does great here, and he is, you’d hope Girardi keeps him in for the 9th.
I like the improvement I’m seeing in Wang’s secondary pitches.
I credit Dave Eiland.
Wang baby!!!
Nice inning for Wang.
this is good… let him start the 9th
JOHNNY FREAKING DAMON…great job, Wang…well done
I have no problem with this whatsoever. Girardi knows more than we do on every level. He has his reasons for whatever he does. Wang is back in and Wang is looking darned good.
That said, there is no reason to think that Wang will not rejoin the rotation in due time.
GO WANGER!!!!
Yeah, that’s my boy!! Clean inning, nice start.
wow i didnt knw davis could make none-homerun contact AND go to leftfield
k, gb, ld
ummm.. so why’s CMW still in the pen?
His ERA is down to 22.50.
Arm strength
Weak effort Nick, you need to work on your secondary jokes.
This will build wangs confidence little by little. I hope he gets it together.
trisha, ymscih!
so those of you in the NYC area should consider yourselves lucky you don’t have to watch on freaking ESPN…I would mute it, but that’s a little freaky in a hotel room
trisha
Agreed. People who post on here and call into the radio programs seem to think they know more than the manager. It is laughable.
“Wang to the rotation…Joba to the pen.”
wow one inning and your ready for that huh…if he pitches a hitless ninth does he take CC’s spot?
a clean inning! good for wang. hopefully that helps his confidence a bit and the yankees can admit how badly they botched this and figure out how to get him some work.
his velocity is still too low but tough to blame the guy given his lack of work. he threw strikes and got outs. maybe we can start the wang to the ‘pen discussion.
Nick,
I so know what you mean about those ugly accusations.
And I’ve considered coming to Veras’ defense, but the fact is, he really CAN’T seem to throw a strike, so where does that leave me….?
Wang looking like a vintage Ramiro Mendoza out there!
now its nathan time
trisha you act like Girardi is infallible. What’d you think of bringing Aceves into an 11-0 game then using him as a long reliever the next night? Awful move. Even if Girardi has more baseball knowledge, it doesn’t mean he always makes the right move. Right now Wang is being misused.
Well, I asked for a clean inning and I got it….and, it’s not even my birthday. No for a scoreless 9th.
I know Randy’s got to say something about the birthday.
Yes, Randy that was before calendars and civilization.
“Wang to the rotation…Joba to the pen.”
Never
can we PUH-LEASE end the Joba to the pen comments??
I think that they should give Hughes one more start and then put CMW back into the rotation. There, I said it.
Holla, I am not saying he should be trusted. But since he is on the roster he needs to pitch. He didn’t pitch in the 11-0 game, or yesterday when Joba only went 4 innings. If today’s game was closer like 5-4, he probably wouldn’t of pitched either. He needs to pitch to get going…
Sorry, Patrick, I released that one from the wrong joke slot.
Wang still has a LONG way to go
His sinker must get back to 93 MPH.
“Arm strength”
He can get that with side sessions.
Cano!!!
Cano!
ROBBIE CRUSHED IT, AND HE KNEW IT IMMEDIATELY!
dont you know?!?
awesome power, Cano
Man. I ‘d rather see Cano take a pitch or two…
And to think Kris Benson is the reason we got Jared Wright.
When was the last time Joba threw a 11 pitch inning. That’s per batter. Wang has also proven himself as a starter.
See how good Wang looked coming out of the pen?
Attacked batters, a nice quick 1-2-3 inning. Something which the rest of the pen is allergic too.
Wang could make an excellent reliever. He is so efficient, he could pitch 2 innings or even 3 some nights.
Bandbox!
Or is the wind heading south from the Bronx?
“Yes, Randy that was before calendars and civilization.”
gb7-
that’s why they have carbon dating.
Hey kids, I don’t *think* it’s too early to trot this out. Bottom of the 8th in Minnesota, Twinkies up 4-2. 3 outs away from Joe Nathan sending the slumdogs with their tails between their legs.
Therefore, ahem!
*trisha – OPPC member
May 27th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
I predict the Yankees take tonight’s game and AJ has a fairly good outing – well certainly better than the last one!
I also predict that by evening’s end, Yankees will be tied for first place.
I am in love with Cervelli. How wonderful is he!
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And since I saw Wang’s name mentioned in this thread, I will quote what I said from the previous thread: Take this to the bank. Girardi will work Wang back into the starting rotation.*
“can we PUH-LEASE end the Joba to the pen comments??”
sunny, around here that’s like asking for world peace.
Guess Yankee Stadium isn’t the only ballpark where a lot of homeruns are hit.
Dang, I remember when Kris Benson was in college and the number one prospect in the country. Those days are clearly long gone.
Hopefully Wang can get two scoreless. He’s had one scoreless inning but not sure if he’s had two consecutive in the same outing.
Nathan in for Min – can he hang on?
teeing off Benson again… wish the Yanks could face him every night.
“Man. I ‘d rather see Cano take a pitch or two…”
lol…yea a higher pitcher per ab ratio is soooo much better than homeruns…just ask swisher!
hey its angel berroa!!!
a berroa sighting?
Angel with something to do
Berroa got in the game???? WOW
Veras throws strikes, they just go a lot farther than CC’s.
Maybe since Wang’s on a roll he can pinch hit for Swisher
Matsui gets a California Roll in the face!
Kris Benson, the Rangers’ version of Chien-Ming Wang.
“Wang could make an excellent reliever. He is so efficient, he could pitch 2 innings or even 3 some nights.”
I want to see relief w/ a few guys on base this month. This season this may be the route they go w/ him.
*one out in Minny, two to go…*
lol 1 inning and he’s back?
He has a lot to prove still
If I had to say, he should slot back into the rotation June 19th in Miami, or the 23rd in Atlanta. Not before then.
Ortiz 0-4ail
Haha Nick, I think you fixed your mechanics on that last one
This is played out now isn’t it?
“Wang could make an excellent reliever. He is so efficient, he could pitch 2 innings or even 3 some nights.”
Why would you want a proven 19 game winner that can give you innings stuck in the pen?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to put the guy who only goes 4-5 innings and has a 100mph fastball in there?
another collar for big papi
“you act like Girardi is infallible. What’d you think of bringing Aceves into an 11-0 game then using him as a long reliever the next night? Awful move. Even if Girardi has more baseball knowledge, it doesn’t mean he always makes the right move. Right now Wang is being misused.”
Patrick – Agreed. The condescending attitude of some people is laughable.
Bad strikeout call
How was that a strike? When was the last time they called something at the letters a strike?
Trisha, your prediction is looking good
gardy been getting it done
Hits vs Kris Benson shouldn’t count.
“Weak effort Nick, you need to work on your secondary jokes.”
patrick-
the problem is we can’t put him on waivers because some other blog would pick him up…
though i’m willing to take the chance
francesa gets what he wants. a starter coming into the game in the 8th.
I wonder if the Yanks are considering putting Hughes in the bullpen. I don’t think it is the right move but sometimes desperate people do weird things.
*two out in Minny, one to go*
So moving Ortiz down in the lineup hasn’t helped him one bit. What a shock.
Good job girardi. Way to screw up wang. Lets have our long relief guy pitch one or two innings. That’s a great idea!
“Wouldn’t it make more sense to put the guy who only goes 4-5 innings and has a 100mph fastball in there?”
Again No.
I think Yankees should trade Wang to another team or give him a chance to be SP.Giradi do nothing seems very coldhearted to Wang.
Boston down..4-2 with 2 2outs..
Get off Girardi’s case, Pete
We are so close to being tied for first!
FRAN I AM GETTING SO PSYCHED!!!
Bringing Aceves into an 11-0 game WAS a mistake. Dumb dumb move.
However, complaining that he didn’t bring in Wang into a close game yesterday is complaining for the sake of complaining. That was the right spot for Aceves. He shouldn’t have been used the day before.
And today, he brought in Wang, isin’t that what everyone wanted? It was 1 inning later than expected, but he still got in.
Some people just like to complain. Whether we’re winning 8-0 or losing 8-0, nobody is ever happty.
How the heck does Minnesota have 13 hits and only 4 runs? Oh my bad, Matsuzaka is pitching. AKA – luckiest pitcher alive
Remember reading what Anna Benson promised Kris if he threw a perfect game?
Aint never gonna get it!
1 mo strike! come on minny!
im calling jeters 2nd career grandslam
Sox lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wang was still 6’3″ high on his release which is still a few inches high, but it’s going in the right direction.
“UPDATE, 11:15 p.m.: In what should be his final appearance as a Yankee, Angel Berroa is pinch running for Matsui.”
The operative word being “should”, Pete. There’s no guarantee that he’ll be sent packing, especially if the Yankees are facing an age discrimination suit.
boston loses!
ugh – i like run, but I don’t like long lags between innings for Wang
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MAY I PRESENT YOUR *FIRST PLACE* NEW YORK YANKEES!!!!!!!!
YA-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
Was that intentional? I hate seeing that. That is how Tino got really hurt.
bases loaded.
man…this cash dude…you can’t keep him off base…
Boston Lost
sox lost.
Trisha, me too.
Laura – Win together, strike out alone!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
“can we PUH-LEASE end the Joba to the pen comments??”
sunny, around here that’s like asking for world peace.
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yeah – i see what you mean
randy l.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
“Yes, Randy that was before calendars and civilization.”
gb7-
that’s why they have carbon dating.
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LMAO. I just about lost my Coca-Cola again. I wasn’t expecting anything that clever from you. You’re pretty sharp for a 90 year old geezer.
Nice one randy, made me laugh
Tampa was up 5-0 and 6-5, and now trail 12-7.
I got an idea! Y’know what Girardi should do to make the Yankees better. How about moving Joba to the pen?
You mean the “pathetic” first place Yanks that everyone’s been referring to??
I finally found the Blonde. Not sure she knew she was going to a baseball game though.
I am so glad we have Berroa. Hes great!
that was a gross double play
BERROA FLASHING THOSE ARTHRITIC KNEES!!!
First place!!
so slow
uhhhh….
adios angel?
Um why was Angel running there? Was he sent by the third base coach?
“Some people just like to complain. Whether we’re winning 8-0 or losing 8-0, nobody is ever happy.”
If you look up the words “Yankee fan” in Websters, it actually says “fans of the New York Yankees baseball team who are never happy”.
3 outs to go.
Christ, Berroa can’t even run properly. Why is he on this team?
berroa out at the plate…is he slower than matsui?
“I think Yankees should trade Wang to another team or give him a chance to be SP.Giradi do nothing seems very coldhearted to Wang.”
Now that’s great for Wang this yr. now tell me why do we want to this ?
LOL That was funny. The 50 year old attempts to score. Does he have Molina speed?!
We’re tied for first.
Deal with it, world.
Lol.
She perked up for second when Cash got hit by the pitch. Maybe that was the first thing she could relate to?
As for Berroa, that’s not a good way to go out, if that’s how it’s going down.
i hope thompson didn’t send him, would’ve been nice for damon to try to get out of his slump.. idiots
When Posada comes back Friday the only move is to get rid of Berroa since the Yanks will probably be keeping 3 catchers for the time being.
I know we’re tied. Im just so happy. When was the last time we had first by ourselves?
Pete, you really make things worse in here than they have to be. Can you get the heck off Berroa for God sake?
He plays for the New York Yankees. They’re not your team but their our team. So people here should just support the guy. He’s done nothing wrong, he hasn’t hurt the team in any major way, he hasn’t lost games for us, and he has hit from the bench and played the field in late games. The Yankees are in first place right nows. Please just stop it!
So in a half inning, a matter of a few minutes, the Yankees will be in first place. Despite everything they’ve dealt with.
‘Bout time. It speaks to the effort of the players and coaching staff.
I wonder how that will be reported on NESPN?
Berroa’s swang song
Donnie
May 27th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Christ, Berroa can’t even run properly. Why is he on this team?
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He’s our talisman. Ever see him smile? He looks like the Buddha.
“I got an idea! Y’know what Girardi should do to make the Yankees better. How about moving Joba to the pen?”
B/c it doesn’t make us better to move the 2nd best SP in this rotation to the BP. Wang hasn’t even shown consistancy in his outings to take a rotation spot and Joba 6 IP or 7 IP is a whole lot more effective than Joba relieving in an 8th inning role.
We’re off tomorrow, but BOS and MIN have one more game left.
If that is Berroa’s last game, it was a memorable one.
Thanks for memories!
Alternate thought: maybe Berroa sacrificed himself so Damon couldn’t go 0-6?
lol gameday says jeter FLIES INTO DOUBLE PLAY
how rare
wanger
is that a rumor or truth that Berroa is done here?
Wang’s sinker looks good…can’t wait until he gets his full velocity back
these sinkers are moving
Anna Benson just sent a text message to Kris.
“Kris, I’ve decided that I’m leaving you. You’re dragging down my career and just another washed up, nobody ball player. I’m leaving you for a real pitcher….Carl Pavano. Have a good life.”
The Life Alert emergency responders went into high alert after Berroa’s collision at home plate.
Isn’t Berroa like 30?
trisha, lighten up! The Berroa jokes are hilarious
“They’re not your team but their our team. ”
That is an interesting sentence…
wow, that’s the wang we love to see.
Actually Bill, I trust Wang (even in his current form) in a close game more than Coke, Veras, Tomko, Albaladejo, or Veras.
Omg Wang!!
Sox now 10-14 on the road, and 17-6 at home, but the new Yankee Stadium is a joke Gammons?
“Pete, you really make things worse in here than they have to be. Can you get the heck off Berroa for God sake?”
trisha, don’t take this the wrong way, but huh? LOL! Berroa is wasting a roster space. That is never a good thing. The age jokes are all in good fun. Don’t take it so seriously.
“I know we’re tied. Im just so happy. When was the last time we had first by ourselves?”
This Friday?
That blonde is crazy cute. I am in love!!!
look awesome cmw!
Nice, sah-weet for Wang. Nasty sinker, I like those words.
What is the point to keep asking why Berroa is on the roster when we already know the answer?? Girardi said a couple of times that they want to make sure Arod is 100% and can play everyday before they get rid of him. If you want to ask why Veras is on the roster then that is a good question..
If and when wang comes back to full force…we will be sick!!!
LOL Wow what a pathetic AB by Elvis
Wang’s stuff is good tonight, the sinker is really moving
Wow, he looks great tonight.. There’s no reason why he shouldn’t be back within a week. 2-3mph doesn’t take that long to build up.
Kim Jones needs to interview that Blonde for tomorrow’s Jaguar “InnerView”.
Good outing for Wang. This is the best he’s looked so far, and exactly what he needed. Good win for us. I do so like first place.
Wang to the rotation and move that illamatic Joba to the pen where he can do awesome things!!1
That’s his best sinker this season
Can the Rangers atleast take some pitches and foul some off?
Wang isin’t even breaking a sweat lol
I like the sound of that, “Sounds like the Bronx Bombers are back”…..a beautiful thing!
I still think Wang could be a great weapon in the pen. He just needs to build on today. Let it stay this way for a few weeks/months until the next injury in the rotation.
“trisha, lighten up! The Berroa jokes are hilarious”
patrick, I don’t think they are. There are people who just live for jokes at other peoples’ expense (not saying you) but I just don’t roll that way.
if girardi continues to pitch wang in the bullpen, wang’s gonna lose his arm strength. wang is a STARTER and can easily be our number two pitcher!
Wangs the man. He’s back baby!
Excellent points, Brandon. Let’s debate.
I did find some flaws in your reasoning, Joba can’t pitch 6/7 innings because it takes him 33 pitches per inning. I think he should be in the pen. The best closer in baseball (right now) is also fat (Broxton) , so maybe he can be the future closer, too.
Anyone else care to join the JOBA discussion???
That was strike three
Rachel- We have Ramiero Peno don’t we? He seems to play more than Berroa.
Trisha: The Berroa jokes are in fun. Plus, I think the dude set himself up for all this by faking his age. There’s no way in helll he is only 33 years old.
“Wang to the rotation and move that illamatic Joba to the pen where he can do awesome things!!1″
He’s not going to the BP, just stop this nonsense no one on the Yankees staff wants him back in there. And Wang actually looks better in the BP right now.
Now THAT’S my CMW!!!
The first place NY Yankees
And 2 strong innings from Wang too. More good news.
“Can you get Berroa the heck off -Berroa- our team for God sake?”
Fixed!
Yankees!!!
it’s on Boston!
2 perfect innings by Wang. 2 K’s and lots of movement on the sinker. That’s a good outing
WANG retires six….I say he is on his way.
WANG: 2 IP, 2 K, 2 GO, 2 FO
i am glad wang looked good tonight. lets not wait 5 more days to see him.
“Joba 6 IP or 7 IP is a whole lot more effective than Joba relieving in an 8th inning role.”
I’d like to meet that 6 or 7 IP Joba. Can you tell him to show up more often?
If Mike was out of control today…What do you think he’s gonna be like tomorrow with Wang throwing 2 scoreless?
The fat man may not survive tomorrow’s broadcast!!
Brace yourselves ladies and gents.
Sterling…. what kind of win warble was that???
aww jetes just gave wang a nice slap.
I’m sick of the disrespect the Yankees show Wang
Trisha, love your prediction earlier. Good job!
If you put Wang back into the rotation, who goes to the pen — Joba or Phil???
Chien-Ming Wright
First place say what?
2 no hit innings.
Awesome! Great game, guys got to ogle a blondie, Godzilla goes deep twice, AJ win, CMW clean pitching & tied for FIRST!!
“patrick, I don’t think they are. There are people who just live for jokes at other peoples’ expense (not saying you) but I just don’t roll that way.”
Fair enough. Maybe it’s a guy thing. We rip on each other in good fun ALL THE TIME
Pete – the Yanks have now lost 3 of 6 (oh and won 12 of 15).
That ball that Kinsler hit just now would have been out at Yankee Stadium
Good for CMW
I have to admit, I’m not an A-rod lover, however, we are a better team with him in the lineup, we all know that’s when this turn around started, whether we want to admit it or not.
First place!!!!
Great night for the Yankees – AJ pitched well, Robertson was terrific and Wang did well. Also, the errorless streak continues and the hitting just killed again. Nice way to head into a day off!
Scorpio, I saw two nice blonds in the front row tonight. The one on the left was kind of a cougar but the one in blue on the right was nice..
“What is the point to keep asking why Berroa is on the roster when we already know the answer?? Girardi said a couple of times that they want to make sure Arod is 100% and can play everyday before they get rid of him. If you want to ask why Veras is on the roster then that is a good question..”
Thank you Rachel. Perhaps Pete can read your posts and then not have needs to keep poking at Berroa being on the team. I guess he didn’t hear Girardi or figure out the reason for Berroa being here.
Thrilled for Wang. Girardi definitely used him in a situation where he could get his confidence up.
Sometimes we just have to trust in what Girardi does. He always has his reasons. Yeah sometimes it might not make sense to us but he’s the one moving the chess pieces all the time.
GREAT WIN YANKEES!!! GREAT WIN FOR AJ ALSO.
Matsui been here 8 yrs and he doesn’t speak English yet.
“Anyone else care to join the JOBA discussion???”
It’s pretty simple at 23 yrs. old he had a 3.97 ERA at 23, this season he is our #5 SP moving up gradually to the top of the rotation, the Yankees value him longterm wise as a SP, talk radio junkies have to understand that is the decision. Plain and simple.
Wang’s ERA 20.45.
I agree with George and E-gawa. Joba can’t go 7 not even 6. I mean who do you think he is some kind of Ross Ohlendorf?!?
It’s very tempting to say that Wang’s performance was the most encouraging thing in this game, and that might be the case, but it was great to see A.J. get it going again too, even though the walks/pitch count wasn’t ideal. Still, good performance to build on for everybody. Great win!
You gotta know that this game made CM Wang finally feels like a contributor to the team. Good deal for him. It has to help make things a lot better. A couple more two inning games and a couple of 3 or 4 inning games and see what happens.
Admit it, Hideki, you were trying to impress the blonde.
Trevor
i was thinking the same thing…and does Matsui pay his translator or do the Yankees, probably Matsui
Wang looked so much better. Still needs some work. But much better.
Nice win!
so nice to see wanger getting back on the horse. slowly but surely.
angelberroa09
and nice time for J Bay to be in a slump with BOS, let alone Ortiz
Wang is back. Send Hughes back.
“Fair enough. Maybe it’s a guy thing. We rip on each other in good fun ALL THE TIME”
It’s not a guy thing. I think the Berroa jokes are funny. Look at the guy; if he’s 33, I’m the Queen of England.
“WANG retires six….I say he is on his way.”
And still he has a long way to go, he needs to do that consistantly. He’ll get a spot start but it won’t be anytime soon.
Can Pete go snap a picture of her on his iphone!!1
“Wang is back. Send Hughes back.”
That ain’t happening either. Hughes right now has nothing to worry about.
“I’m sick of the disrespect the Yankees show Wang”
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while the plan for him may not be clear now, he got himself into this mess to the tune of a 34 ERA.
As for the contract that Pete keeps ripping the Yankees for, every team in baseball does it. I don’t see him ripping other teams when they do the same thing. He knows better but has a thing for Wang.
Wang earned more innings tonight. That’s all that matters. If he keeps it up, he’ll be back in the rotation in no time.
“Trisha, love your prediction earlier. Good job!”
Fran, I have big happy tears in my eyes!!! I am so happy we are both here at the same time to see this happen. Of course it would have to be that way. This is so awesome. We both knew though that this was coming. And trusting it in such a good way makes it all the better, right?
Another night to sleep like a baby.
patrick-
the results were perfect, but not the mechanics.
wang’s release point is still 3-6 ” high and his velocity is still down.
but it’s two innings under his belt to build some strength, so what’s not to like.
i won’t feel like he’s back until i see his 3/4 delivery.
I believe the Yankees pay for Roger Kahlon (Matsui’s translator), and, from what I’ve read, Matsui does understand a fair amount of English, he just likes to do the media interviews with Kahlon.
“Matsui been here 8 yrs and he doesn’t speak English yet.”
or maybe he just feels more comfortable speaking his native language when being interviewed on LIVE TELEVISION.
If Wang is healthy, the Yankees have six capable starting pitchers. If they send Joba to the pen now, then if someone gets hurt, they have a scrub pitching in the 5th spot ala the last few years. They could of course send Phil down, but he is just starting to gel and there is nothing more for him to learn in AAA. Let Wang work out of the bullpen and build up strength and confidence, then work him back in the rotation when Joba and/or Phil approach innings limits.
it is kind of ridiculous that Matsui doesn’t know English still…does Melky know any?
Christina, When Arod came back from surgery they had no idea how he would feel. If he needed to DH often or needed days off they wanted a back up for Pena incase another infielder got hurt. Now that they see he is ok I am sure Berroa won’t be here much longer. It made sense just to be careful…
How is he gonna move up in the rotation if he continues to struggle and can’t get through 4???
He’s not Kershaw, Porcello, Scherzer, etc.
MOVE HIM TO THE PEN!!!!
FYI, Lakers-Nuggets late in the 4th quarter.
“If you put Wang back into the rotation, who goes to the pen—Joba or Phil???”
Neither, in my opinion. As tough as it is, Phil should go back to AAA when Wang is deemed ready. We can’t afford to limit Phil OR Joba’s development by putting them in the pen.
THANK YOU Laura. The Berroa jokes are really corny but hilarious
Angel, I hope you are still here for me to wish you a belated happy birthday! I had signed off before you mentioned it last night so I never had a chance to say happy birthday. But here is your belated birthday present.
OPPC RULES – especially tonight!!!
George
Why would anyone waste time on no know? In your prognostication did you notice they now lay off the slider? That was his number one strike out pitch. Didn’t think so. Nuff Said. Twerp.
Let’s not pretend that Wang “got himself into this mess”. Injuries last June got him into this mess.
Carmelo is sick…
That reminds me, where has Rebecca been lately? I haven’t seen her on the blog that much.
man wang looked beyond good tonight. Hopefully it won’t be long til the Yanks do something or least let us know what the plan is with wang
Trisha, being positive! Maybe there’s even hope for our fantasy baseball teams
thanks Rachel
As for Matsui, he does speak english, like Wang, but doesnt feel comfortable speaking it while on camera.
Also, Roger is paid by the Yankees. I think it was part of his contract that he will have a translator.
Jeter’s Future Wife
May 27th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
it is kind of ridiculous that Matsui doesn’t know English still…does Melky know any?
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They both know English; they’re just more comfortable speaking their respective native languages. You don’t want to misunderstand a question or screw up a response on TV and get embarrassed. Plenty of people who speak English as their first language do that enough as it is.
They need to send Wang to the bullpen now and have him throw 40 more simulated pitches
Thanks to me for telling A.J. to pitch like he’s facing the Yankees.
Just because the Yankees want Joba to develop into a starter doesn’t mean he will. Its like you idiots just listen to talk radio and believe what they tell you. Do you even like the Yankees? Did you seen Joba this year?
Patrick,
Rebecca is prob studying for finals
“How is he gonna move up in the rotation if he continues to struggle and can’t get through 4???
He’s not Kershaw, Porcello, Scherzer, etc.
MOVE HIM TO THE PEN!!!!”
He’s 23 yrs. old, the Yankees unlike yourself have patience w/ him. He’s going to move up in the rotation. Unfortunately for Wang he put himself into this mess, what I see them doing w/ him is conntinued work out of the BP and sometime later on in the summer b/c we know Pettitte’s elbow will bark b/c he’s not young anymore Wang will sub a start for him and we’ll see if he can cont. to progress this season. Joba is staying in the rotation, Hughes doesn’t look ready to give up his spot in the rotation and GI Joe might have made him an angry pitbull after taking that ball from him in the 9th.
S,
ok understandable…but Matsui, after being here for 8 years still isn’t comfortable? seriously?
Brandon, after AJ left the game, he probably whipped up a few pies……….to send to Francesca, lol. It sucks that he’ll never get pied unless he pitches a complete game…
Yao Ming is much cooler than Matsui. He mastered English and now he can joke around with Artest.
“If Wang is healthy, the Yankees have six capable starting pitchers. If they send Joba to the pen now, then if someone gets hurt, they have a scrub pitching in the 5th spot ala the last few years. They could of course send Phil down, but he is just starting to gel and there is nothing more for him to learn in AAA. Let Wang work out of the bullpen and build up strength and confidence, then work him back in the rotation when Joba and/or Phil approach innings limits.”
You’re leaving a guy who’s capable of going 7-9 every start like CC in the pen in favor of 2 guys who average 5-6 every start. That makes no sense.
Wang is not only a good starter, he’s an innings guy. He needs to be in the rotation.
I can’t take all the Joba talk! this was AJ’s nite and CMW’s, give them their props and we’ll work on Joba when it’s “his turn” lol
LOL Bob Lorenz talking about Joba to the bullpen
We all know that Matsui understands English perfectly.
Jeter’s Future Wife
May 27th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
it is kind of ridiculous that Matsui doesn’t know English still…does Melky know any?
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What’s ridiculous is that people take issues with it. He knows and he understands English. He may not be comfortable doing interviews in the language. English is one of the hardest languages to learn. Hell, most Americans can’t speak the language properly. Interchanging except and accept, or the and than. One prominent blogger that writes for a newspaper has the issue of then and than.
yeah, Kenny….I think it’s just laziness now! GO Yao Ming!
Wang, when he is right, is a sure thing in the rotation
Joba and Hughes are not.
Wang is also a workhorse. He eliminates the need to go to the pen early.
Keeping Wang in the pen is ridiculous.
“It’s not a guy thing. I think the Berroa jokes are funny. Look at the guy; if he’s 33, I’m the Queen of England.”
It’s not just about the ridiculous nonstop childish jokes about his age (yeah Laura you know for sure, probably saw his birth certificate?) it’s about Pete continually treating him like a pariah on the Yankees and of course getting others here to follow suit. Berroa had a purpose here. As with everything else, it really doesn’t matter if people on this forum agreed with it. But to see the hackneyed “what is Berroa’s purpose on this team” and for Pete to comment ad nauseum that Berroa didn’t belong on the roster really got old and very tiresome.
Because posters didn’t remember what Girardi said about Berroa being here didn’t mean Berroa didn’t have a purpose on the team. Berroa did what he was asked to do when he was asked to do it. He didn’t hurt the team. At times he helped the team.
As with everything else here, a simple thank you would do at times instead of a kick in the teeth (I mean for Yankee players who are doing their best to help the team, even if they aren’t the big names.)
My opinion.
John Flaherthy just said it right there
Cashman and Girardi want him to stay in the rotation. End of story, he even looked depressed saying it. The YES announcers don’t have anything to do w/ this decision, unfortunately when they sqwak it sounds like it’s the Yankee regime talking.
“As tough as it is, Phil should go back to AAA when Wang is deemed ready. We can’t afford to limit Phil OR Joba’s development by putting them in the pen.”
Second that. If Wang keeps pitching like this, I don’t see why he shouldn’t go back into the rotation.
Kenny
May 27th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Yao Ming is much cooler than Matsui. He mastered English and now he can joke around with Artest.
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Matsui’s english is fairly advanced.
“it is kind of ridiculous that Matsui doesn’t know English still…”
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ridiculous?
the odds of you learning Japanese in 8 years are probably worse than David Ortiz winning the Triple Crown this year.
don’t be so ignorant.
Brandon – do you work for the Yankees? You sound like a company man. Or some kind of political loyalist barking the same talking points on Fox News all day.
Wang and Joba will both be in the rotation. It’s very simple.
Thanks Trisha. They didn’t win last night, but I’m all about the big picture, with them winning tonight it doesn’t matter to me.
Tied for first, given their challenges – is an excellent present!
Correction: Interchanging ***except and accept*** , or ***then and than***
If you ever saw Artest/Ming’s Laurel and Hardy act you’d know Matsui’s English is not advanced enough!
“Wang, when he is right, is a sure thing in the rotation
Joba and Hughes are not.
Wang is also a workhorse. He eliminates the need to go to the pen early.
Keeping Wang in the pen is ridiculous.”
To put Wang in the rotation off of 2 meaningless relief appearances where batters just want to go home isn’t a smart idea either Einstein. Wang was a workhorse, he hasn’t been one for awhile, everyone knows that. 2009 Wang has not been efficient enough to give him a spot in the rotation. Hughes has taken the ball and doesn’t want to give it back and GI Joe loves that, Joba is not getting pulled from the rotation. Live w/ it.
“Brandon – do you work for the Yankees? You sound like a company man. Or some kind of political loyalist barking the same talking points on Fox News all day.”
Cute.
my worst nightmare
Mauer in Boston
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....ch/?page=1
Ha now Singleton has joined the “Joba to the pen” bandwagon. Folks are quite shortsighted. The Yankees aren’t just focused on this year. Joba is looked at as long term.
Most that want him in the pen are all about this year only.
Even if it’s for just one day, I don’t care – it feels sooooooo good to be in first place. It’s just been WAY too long……
Who gets the belt? AJ? It would be cool if he got it and then gave it to Wang, given that he’s been encouraging Wang all along
Eduardo Nunez head injury?
I highly doubt Girardi wants Joba in the rotation.
Why would he want to go to Tomko, Veras, Coke in the late innings? Don’t you think it would make his job much easier if he could just throw Joba out there in the 8th and not have to break a sweat?
Girardi is going to go along with whatever Cashman says though regardless of what he thinks.
“Let’s not pretend that Wang “got himself into this mess”. Injuries last June got him into this mess.”
Finally. That was one of the most ridiculous statements I ever read (about Wang getting himself into the mess!)
Fran, your team is kicking major butt! Wow is that so cool. A really good thing I did that is working well so far is picking up Sheff! Woo hoo. Finally I am getting so RBI!!!
I don’t know it will translate in terms of points but I did have a good night, especially with AJ pitching so well.
If Mauer reaches the FA market, Bostom seems inevitable for him.
“Eduardo Nunez head injury?”
“Let’s not pretend that Wang “got himself into this mess”. Injuries last June got him into this mess.”
Finally. That was one of the most ridiculous statements I ever read (about Wang getting himself into the mess!)
Fran, your team is kicking major butt! Wow is that so cool. A really good thing I did that is working well so far is picking up Sheff! Woo hoo. Finally I am getting some RBI!!!
I don’t know it will translate in terms of points but I did have a good night, especially with AJ pitching so well.
Believe the last time we had first to ourselves (at the end of the day’s play) was last day of 2006 season. In 07-08, no better than tied, and that was near the very beginning.
Long time.
“If Mauer reaches the FA market, Bostom seems inevitable for him.”
Well you know the Mets need a catcher and Philly will look to upgrade, Boston isn’t a guarantee, Minny is going to franchise him.
Laura – Win together, strike out alone!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
“Fair enough. Maybe it’s a guy thing. We rip on each other in good fun ALL THE TIME”
It’s not a guy thing. I think the Berroa jokes are funny. Look at the guy; if he’s 33, I’m the Queen of England.
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So, you’re real name is Liz, you have 4 very ugly kids named Margret, Anne, Charles and Andrew, they jave huge ears and your husband looks like a dead cod.
It’s premature to proclaim The Wang-man ready rotation ready….I agree with GB, let’s see some more outings with a little more velocity before shaking up the rotation….I am confused as to way he wasn’t used last night in relief of Joba……Regadless 2 innings in a blowout is a start, something to build upon….Nothing more & nothing less, it’s start…..
I agree with Jerry, George, Elaine, Kramer, and E-Gawa MOVE JOBA TO THE PEN! Who cares what stupid Brandon thinks?!?
Luis Vizcaino in for Cleveland
i see the twins locking up mauer and morneau, especially with the opening of their new stadium next season. Keep them the face of the franchise
When do the Phillies ever sign big free agents?
And I doubt the Mets beat Boston in a bidding war. Mets are a possibility, but not if they sign Holliday this winter.
You guys are forgetting something….
“ANDY PETTITTE IS A STARTING PITCHER!!!!”
Wang could have gone up in the 7th inning instead of 8th. I wonder what’s Giradi’s plan for Wang today, or there isn’t any plan at all?
“I highly doubt Girardi wants Joba in the rotation.”
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That is possible. But if so, his rationale would be to benefit himself this season and not what is in the Yankees best interests as a team.
Also, if Joba is walking guys as a starter, it doesn’t just go away as a reliever.
He needs to fix his issues (walks, velocity) whether he starts or goes to the pen (which is a horrible idea IMO).
Longer video clip of Francesa ranting today.
http://tinyurl.com/r2b4eq
Someone call tomorrow and mention Wanger as the bridge to Mo. His head might explode
AJ coming up
Judging by how Wang looked tonight… Girardi may be using him in high leverage innings rather than blowouts
“When do the Phillies ever sign big free agents?”
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Raul Ibanez is playing as big as any of them .
And their recipe for success has been a tad better than that of the Mets anyway.
LOL faced w/ facts the little fans that want Joba in the BP can’t handle
A. The kid wants to be a SP
B. The coaching staff wants him to be a SP
C. His spot in the rotation isn’t in question
D. He’s prbly the 2nd best guy in the rotation
Keep dreaming the dream.
What the heck is AJ wearing? Is that a Cowboy suit?
Was he playing dumb or being sarcastic in asking Kim to explain “gritty”? And what is he wearing, some white shirt with metal on it? LOL
AJ doesn’t know what gritty means?! Has he ever meet Gardner? lol
So, you’re real name is Liz
Correction: So, ***your*** real name is Liz
Jesus, I need to brush up on my English before people think that I should learn a new language.
Joba in the rotation vs. in the pen depends on your view – long term or short term.
The Yankee organization takes the long term view, and sees him with 4 pitches that can be + pitches, and they see a cost-controlled dominant starter. The players (and Singleton and Flaherty look at things as the retired players they are, I think) look short term, as in winning now and this year. They’re not interested in 5 years down the road, because many of them will not be in NY then.
As a fan, I tend to think (pray?) I’ll be around for the long term.
AJ looks like he is wearing an Elvis jacket lol
AJ’s outfit is soooo Texas
Looks like he’s is going to a bull fight or a rodeo or something LOL
Looks like he was wearing a uniform or something.
AJ needs to be taken to task during the next kangaroo court for asking to have “gritty” explained…nevermind that shirt, what is he auditioning for the Village People?
How much of Wang’s issues are mental?
Sure, I saw the split screen of his wind up from last year to this year prior to DL but Eliand has said he does not bring it to the field from the pen.
Why, then, would it not make sense to let him mop some guys up and get his confidence back before moving him back in to the rotation?
The Indians/Rays game is still going on?
It started at 7 right? Did it break a record for longest 9 inning game?
LOL that look on AJ’s face when Cash came out to the mound…….then left, lol. He looked like he smelled something bad……hilarious!
AJ must have been sarcastic to Kim about “gritty” – that’s just his sense of humor – and the way he said “nice talk, Cash……..” – funny dude…..No belt, though?
ANDY PETTITE CAN’T PITCH THE 8TH INNING!!!
“To put Wang in the rotation off of 2 meaningless relief appearances where batters just want to go home isn’t a smart idea either Einstein. Wang was a workhorse, he hasn’t been one for awhile, everyone knows that. 2009 Wang has not been efficient enough to give him a spot in the rotation. Hughes has taken the ball and doesn’t want to give it back and GI Joe loves that, Joba is not getting pulled from the rotation. Live w/ it.”
I think you missed the point.
It doesn’t matter what the hitters did against Wang. What matters is his sinker is sinking.. That’s it. Now it’s just about Arm strength.
He’s replacing one of them because he’s more valuable to the success of this team. Live w/ that.
Joe from Long Island, I know how hard is that to understand
Singleton = No impact on Yankee decision making
Flatherty = No impact on Yankee decision making
Kim Jones = No impact on Yankee decision making
Sterling = No impact on Yankee decision making
Waldman = No impact on Yankee decision making
YES booth = No impact on Yankee decision making
Players = No impact on Yankee decision making
retired players = No impact on Yankee decision making
Analysts = No impact on Yankee decision making
Talk radio = No impact on Yankee decision making
Good win!
Kevin Long?
They need to interview Eliand and ask him about Wang and his release point and Neil Allan
Wang is not moving to the rotation anytime soon. It was just a very good 2 innings, a stepping stone and I for one am happy for him.
Wow. I am exhausted! Working one’s way into first place is tiring work!!!!!
Great being Yankee fans gang.
Night all.
“He’s replacing one of them because he’s more valuable to the success of this team. Live w/ that.”
Not the impression I got, but I’d love to see him take someone’s job, the best chance he has right now is waiting for Pettitte to have his yearly injury that he hides from the team, you know it’s coming.
I love how people are dismissing Joba to the pen so easily.
Yeah, like the Yankees have never made panic moves before and are known for their rational decision making.
NOTHING is out of the realm of possibility with this organization that has a WS or bust mandate, remember that.
Now that I think about it I kinda agree. 4+ pitches….get real. Wang in the rotation and Joba in the pen may really work.
Yea Brandon, just like they wouldn’t trade Tabata right? Or they wouldn’t bring up Melancon until July? Or they wouldn’t sign Tex?
You’re proclamations are getting old. It is all guess work.
A always aces his post-game interviews………that outfit, though. That just doesn’t seem like him……is he going to a Texas line dance club tonight? He looks like he’s ready to ride a mechanical bull…..usually he wears crazy t-shirts, lol
Your not the real Brandon
“Yea Brandon, just like they wouldn’t trade Tabata right? Or they wouldn’t bring up Melancon until July? Or they wouldn’t sign Tex?”
I’ll give you Tex, Tabata brought back what ? Melancon was he not rushed and sent back ? 2 out of 3 beautiful for me.
“You’re proclamations are getting old. It is all guess work.”
Posters do too.
Wedge using Vizcaino for a 3rd inning
I guess he has been getting advice from Torre LOL
David Price was a big reason the Rays made it as far as they did last year…. where is he now.. where he’s most valuable, in the rotation.
BTW I wasn’t home during the game so I couldn’t post, but is it me or does Matsui look like Gibson running the bases on the HRs??
There is some dispute about Eduardo Nunez’ reported head injury. M. Ashmore says his report was that Nunez was either kicked or spiked in the upper chest area by the 2nd baseman when diving back into 2nd base on a lineout.
Nunez Injured In Thunder Victory
May 27, 2009 by thunderbaseball
Shortstop Eduardo Nunez left tonight’s game with what the team will likely tell you is an upper body injury. The MILB.com game log says he left the game with “an injured head.”
But Kenny Barto, who was at the game doing some photo work for Pinstripes Plus, e-mailed to report that Nunez appeared to be spiked or accidently kicked around the chest area by the second baseman going back into second after a line drive out.
He apparently walked off under his own power, but was in quite a bit of pain.
If I hear anything else, I’ll be sure to pass it along.
Mike Ashmore, mashmore98 AT gmail.com”
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Brandon “People need to stop copying me ”
May 28th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Your not the real Brandon
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Tell the real Brandon to tell K4L to visit Prospects for lowdown on Eduardo.
This is shaping up to be the perfect AL East night that we blew last night… Socks, Blue Jays, now the Rays, all giving ground to the Bombers! Gotta love it. A perfect storm.
Imposter Brandon @ 12:11 AM really you can’t impersonate me. You don’t have that type of juice.
YOU’RE NOT THE REAL BRANDON!!!
The real Brandon loves Joba in the pen. Don’t listen to imposter Brandon jumping on the Francesa-lovin’, mike’d up listenin’, starter bandwagon jumper.
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60615827fbe3da91/
“Not the impression I got, but I’d love to see him take someone’s job, the best chance he has right now is waiting for Pettitte to have his yearly injury that he hides from the team, you know it’s coming.”
I’m sorry, did you mean Phil Hughes?
If so, I agree.. but I don’t think he has to wait for that injury to come up.
Well to be fair, trading Tabata was a HUGE blunder
We got nothing back on our investment. Nady is injured and is a DH now. We can’t even offer him arb. and get picks because he will definitely accept unless he has a monster year. Marte could have been signed as a FA this winter if we wanted. He didn’t help us last year.
You don’t trade young studs like Tabata. And Ohlendorf has more quality starts than Joba this year.
“AJ always aces his post-game interviews………”
AJ Burnett is not an ace.
Wow, poor Nunez………..I hope he’ll be ok.
Did he mean to say that AJ always #2-3 starters in his postgame interview?
Wait …. now Harold is stealing my material?
Give Eduardo a boxcutter next time. WTH man jus WTH ..
Matchups for Cleveland are
Pettitte vs. Cliff Lee
Sabathia vs. Carmona
Hughes vs. Pavano
Joba vs. Zach Jackson
A.J.’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6061585789bd3188/
Betsy
May 28th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Wow, poor Nunez………..I hope he’ll be ok.
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If it was a spike or kick to the chest, I’d assume that it both hurt and stunned him. “The kid ain’t got much meat upon his bones.” I have to assume if he walked off on his own, he’ll be ok. If it was a head injury, they wouldn’t have let him walk.
Kevin Long’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60615965da3eb142/
LOL Nick – you’re right – he’s at best a #3 interview.
Per Kim Jones’ blog, AJ bought Joba a little laser thingy from a gas station in the area and Joba was playing with it in the clubhouse, pointing the laser and making red dots on the players’ heads, lol
LOL Nick – you’re right – he’s at best a #3 interview.
Per Kim Jones’ blog, AJ bought Joba a little laser thingy from a gas station in the area and Joba was playing with it in the clubhouse, pointing the laser and making red dots on the players’ heads, lol
it doesnt matter, because once joba reaches his innings limit..he’ll go to the bull pen anway.
Kevin Cash’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60615991b5328dcb/
So 5 days from tonight would be Monday, Joba’s start.
Joba for 5, Wang for 3-4? Will Wang get work between now and then? Maybe on his throw day?
I still can’t believe Cash had 2 hits tonight.
Cash has a higher BA than Swisher does now
GB, good point…….. a head injury is scary. Of course, getting spiked in the chest is no picnic……..I’m glad he walked off under his own power……..gives me shivers to think about it.
Cash was actually pretty charismatic in the post game interview, who knew?
Nunez was Wurlitzered? Sic Tanner and Engleberrg on ‘em
6 games ahead of Tampa
3 games ahead of Toronto
Tied with Boston
“Nunez was Wurlitzered? Sic Tanner and Engleberrg on ‘em”
He left latin america to get away from things like these, funny how batting .350 in his last 40 ABs had an XBH tonight and someone decided… I’m gonna cut you !
Let’s see if NYY can hook up a trade with Washington and swap Veras, Swisher and cash (money) for Daniel Cabrera, Austin Kearns and Willie Harris. It gives Washington a bit of a cash break and the combined salaries from Washington would break even.
Catchers tend to be bright.
If Mauer reaches the FA market, Bostom seems inevitable for him.
Like Mart Texeira?
I don’t respond to imposters!
bodhi: there are exceptions.
Like Mark Texeira?
“Let’s see if NYY can hook up a trade with Washington and swap Veras, Swisher and cash (money) for Daniel Cabrera, Austin Kearns and Willie Harris. It gives Washington a bit of a cash break and the combined salaries from Washington would break even.”
I’d do it. But it’s hard to believe that anyone will take Swisher’s contract.
Betsy
May 28th, 2009 at 12:29 am
GB, good point…….. a head injury is scary. Of course, getting spiked in the chest is no picnic……..I’m glad he walked off under his own power……..gives me shivers to think about it.
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Definately could have been ugly. Hopefully, he misses a couple of days and gets back in there with no ill-affects.
Let’s see if NYY can hook up a trade with Washington and swap Veras, Swisher and cash (money) for Daniel Cabrera, Austin Kearns and Willie Harris.
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Ummm, Nat’s releases cabrera.
“I don’t respond to imposters!”
Soy yo..dammit
haha… I hope Berroa stays on the team just for the hilarious comments
I’m not ready to give up on Swisher as most seem to be, but when I heard Daniel Cabrera was DFA’d, I immediately thought we should pick him up. He would cost less then the fluid in Matsui’s knees. It’s worth the shot to see if the Yankees coaches can get him throwing strikes out of the pen.
On Daniel Cabrera: just no.
“Let’s see if NYY can hook up a trade with Washington and swap Veras, Swisher and cash (money) for Daniel Cabrera, Austin Kearns and Willie Harris. It gives Washington a bit of a cash break and the combined salaries from Washington would break even.”
GB is this you ?
“It’s worth the shot to see if the Yankees coaches can get him throwing strikes out of the pen.”
In the minors right ?
What would we do with Daniel Cabrera? Does he replace Veras as the walk machine out of pen?
Gates
May 28th, 2009 at 12:39 am
“Let’s see if NYY can hook up a trade with Washington and swap Veras, Swisher and cash (money) for Daniel Cabrera, Austin Kearns and Willie Harris. It gives Washington a bit of a cash break and the combined salaries from Washington would break even.”
I’d do it. But it’s hard to believe that anyone will take Swisher’s contract.
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The overall salaries are close. Swisher is owed about 17 mil on his over 3 years and Veras is barely more than minimum wage. Harris is owed 1.5 mil, Cabrera is owed 2.9 and Kearns is owed 16 mil if the ’10 option is picked up.
If it’s the minors I really don’t care what they do w/ him. Unfortunately he can’t throw a strike for nothing.
“The overall salaries are close. Swisher is owed about 17 mil on his over 3 years and Veras is barely more than minimum wage. Harris is owed 1.5 mil, Cabrera is owed 2.9 and Kearns is owed 16 mil if the ‘10 option is picked up.”
GB Daniel was released.
I know it’s crazy, but how about Joba going to AAA to get some work in refining himself as a starter. (Let the flames begin)
I’d be perfectly fine with him in the minors. It’s a no-risk situation, he’ll cost next to nothing and if they can get him to throw strikes it could be a good pick up…. if not big deal no loss
Brandon “You think you can keep up w/ me ?”
May 28th, 2009 at 12:45 am
“Let’s see if NYY can hook up a trade with Washington and swap Veras, Swisher and cash (money) for Daniel Cabrera, Austin Kearns and Willie Harris. It gives Washington a bit of a cash break and the combined salaries from Washington would break even.”
GB is this you ?
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NYY would lose Veras if they release him. Cabrera has options and and Veras doesn’t. Kearns is a natural right fielder and a better player than Swisher. Harris could be NYY’s version of Chone Figgins. He plays all infield and outfield spots better than average….has speed amd a little power.
Brandon “You think you can keep up w/ me ?”
May 28th, 2009 at 12:51 am
“The overall salaries are close. Swisher is owed about 17 mil on his over 3 years and Veras is barely more than minimum wage. Harris is owed 1.5 mil, Cabrera is owed 2.9 and Kearns is owed 16 mil if the ‘10 option is picked up.”
GB Daniel was released.
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Not for the next 8 days.
I like Willie Harris not that sure about Kearns but he fields better than Swish. D-Cab = Veras…eh. God what I’d give for Ryan Sweeney in RF.
Two words – Lastings Milledge (Hmm, Broken Finger, hmm, still better than Swisher)
Joba, 44.2 ip 3.97 era in 8 games(not including that accidental game).
Ghil, 29.2 ip 5.16 era in 6 games.
In their 14 games BP works an average of 3.2 innings each game. So that we never have enough reliever for burning.
Both of them are good pitchers but starter before they prove they can eat more innings. One game doesnt mean they were good starter. They have a long way to go still. By the way, since they are on the list,we need more tough relievers to cover them. Maybe Wang is a good choice for those who set no count on him.
The same as Wang has to prove he can be a good starter again.And now where’s the chance for him. Today is a good chance..I dont think so. Give him a shoot to tell us something before it’s too late. They can put him in BP, it’s all right, but please get him so work to do. Dont murder a starter in BP like this, to tose 26 pitches in 5 days.
Daniel Cabrera is only good at one thing: beaning people. Just look at the bruises on Jeter and A-Rod.
If I want some retaliation to tell other teams to stay off my players, he is the go-to guy.
Starters need to at least throw 100 pitches. With the way of Yankees humilating Wang, I don’t think Wang can throw 100 now. He only threw 75 once in AAA 10 days ago and 26 after 5-day rest. When he is really needed later, don’t expect him to reach it. Then everyone will be throwing water bottles at him again and cursing he is garbage. Whose fault is it?
Yankees forbid Wang from running in ST and made him what he was in April. They admitted it. They are ruining Wang again by rotting him in long-reliever role.
Berroa! No joke is as funny as watching him play.
What are they thinking?
Pete would have been closer to the plate than Berroa.
pete, i have to say, your overanalysis of the bullpen moves is too much… especially in a blow out.
Wang getting innings 7, 8, and 9 would have been great. But maybe Girardi didn’t trust him for 3 innings with a 6 run lead. Looking at his first starts of the season, would he have any reason to trust him? that said, i like Wang and i’m not trying to rip him…
But maybe with a 6 run lead he’d like to gauge some of the others. Robertson got out of a jam. Maybe he’s moved up on Girardi’s pecking order as a result. that’s good!
It’s too much, Pete. And to compare him to Torre with “at least Torre ran the good ones into the ground”…. umm, which ‘good ones’ does Girardi have right now? His pen management skills were superb last season.