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	<title>Comments on: Game 51: Yankees at Indians (updates with news of setbacks for Molina, Nady)</title>
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		<title>By: Turner</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/01/game-51-yankees-at-indians/comment-page-33/#comment-824273</link>
		<dc:creator>Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i saw berroa in the lineup i figured eddie harris must be pitching</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i saw berroa in the lineup i figured eddie harris must be pitching</p>
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		<title>By: JeterJobaFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeterJobaFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil had his shaky moments in that last game and I believe he only went 7 innings.  I hate this competition between them, individually they have their own talents.  Phil has been in the Yankee system since high school.  This Joba&#039;s 3rd season.  Phil is 22 and Joba is 23.

Question I always add to this debate.  If it came down to Joba or Phil to pitch in the WS - -Who would you chose. Joba, for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil had his shaky moments in that last game and I believe he only went 7 innings.  I hate this competition between them, individually they have their own talents.  Phil has been in the Yankee system since high school.  This Joba&#8217;s 3rd season.  Phil is 22 and Joba is 23.</p>
<p>Question I always add to this debate.  If it came down to Joba or Phil to pitch in the WS &#8211; -Who would you chose. Joba, for me</p>
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		<title>By: vb03 (Gehrig to Gardner: Memoirs of a Utility IF)</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/01/game-51-yankees-at-indians/comment-page-33/#comment-824177</link>
		<dc:creator>vb03 (Gehrig to Gardner: Memoirs of a Utility IF)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan D

Thankfully you don&#039;t run the Yankees.</description>
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<p>Thankfully you don&#8217;t run the Yankees.</p>
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		<title>By: teddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan D 

no</description>
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<p>no</p>
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		<title>By: teddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm no joba 3.20 era as a starter, brian bruney will be the 8th inning guy, marte when healthy is good, you can never have enough starting pitching</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm no joba 3.20 era as a starter, brian bruney will be the 8th inning guy, marte when healthy is good, you can never have enough starting pitching</p>
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		<title>By: Evan D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete is certainly a hilarious writer and so is anyone who uses this game as proof Joba should stay in the rotation.

All I can say is you are all fools. Here&#039;s why:

No one said that Joba would not make a good starter. He is a good starter now. I cannot call him great because he usually goes 5-6 innings and rarely gives any length. Tonight he faced a minor league lineup and took advantage. If he doesn&#039;t make the most amazing play I&#039;ve ever seen a pitcher make then the Indians likely take the lead in the 5th inning.

That being said, I believe Joba COULD become an ace and believe in player development too. However, not at the expense of championships.

First of all, Phil Hughes is going to be sent down to AAA once Wang is back in the rotation - coming soon. For the clowns who think player development is so important - you should be fighting for Hughes and Joba...not just Joba.

2nd - The Yankees need bullpen help desperately. They have been beating up on sub .500 teams. They are still 0-5 vs. Boston and have a losing record vs. AL East. We have a looong way to go and the bullpen will be key this year.

3rd - To all the clowns who believe in making a trade....I ask you to look back to 2008. What happened. Our pen stunk, Cashman made a trade, in comes Demaso Marte. Out goes our streak of playoff runs. You cannot count on a trade for an 8th inning, trustworthy setup man (or 7th inning too for that matter).

4th - When you bring up guys from minors you can strike lighting in a bottle (2007 Joba) but that doesn&#039;t happen twice in 3 years. Melancon might be great but can you trust him vs. Boston when Youkilis is up as the tying run? NO.

There are plenty of reasons why Joba should stay - I agree. He has the makeup. He might be a future ace. Our ace, this year, however makes $20 million. He goes by the initials CC. You may have seen him around, he&#039;s the biggest guy on the team. He will be starting Game 1 (assuming we get there) of the postseason. Joba will start Game 4 and give you his classic 6 innings 2 runs. What happens next? Coke? Fill int he blank reliever gives up runs. I&#039;d rather have Joba in the pen this year where he can pitch in several playoff games and have a major affect for us. 

While I am all for dominant starting pitching, I believe the pen is very important too and it is our biggest weakness, our achilles heal if you will. Joba to the pen solves that problem without hurting our rotation. Remember, Hughes did pitch 8 innings (0 runs) vs. a better lineup than Joba tonight giving up 2 runs (could have been more without &quot;the dive&quot;) vs. a bad lineup.

My argument comes down to 1 question and 1 question only: Would you rather have....
A) Joba in the rotation, Hughes in the minors (not developing), and Pu Pu platter of relievers
or
B) Hughes in the rotation (developing as another potential ACE and actually pitching just as well as Joba), Joba setting up for Mariano

Choice B gives us a dominant pen and keeps the rotation intact. It also means Joba won&#039;t reach an innings limit in September and get shut down for a month. 

It&#039;s a no brainer. We have the pieces to win a championship this year but they are not in the right places. 

Anyone who disagrees is just not watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete is certainly a hilarious writer and so is anyone who uses this game as proof Joba should stay in the rotation.</p>
<p>All I can say is you are all fools. Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>No one said that Joba would not make a good starter. He is a good starter now. I cannot call him great because he usually goes 5-6 innings and rarely gives any length. Tonight he faced a minor league lineup and took advantage. If he doesn&#8217;t make the most amazing play I&#8217;ve ever seen a pitcher make then the Indians likely take the lead in the 5th inning.</p>
<p>That being said, I believe Joba COULD become an ace and believe in player development too. However, not at the expense of championships.</p>
<p>First of all, Phil Hughes is going to be sent down to AAA once Wang is back in the rotation &#8211; coming soon. For the clowns who think player development is so important &#8211; you should be fighting for Hughes and Joba&#8230;not just Joba.</p>
<p>2nd &#8211; The Yankees need bullpen help desperately. They have been beating up on sub .500 teams. They are still 0-5 vs. Boston and have a losing record vs. AL East. We have a looong way to go and the bullpen will be key this year.</p>
<p>3rd &#8211; To all the clowns who believe in making a trade&#8230;.I ask you to look back to 2008. What happened. Our pen stunk, Cashman made a trade, in comes Demaso Marte. Out goes our streak of playoff runs. You cannot count on a trade for an 8th inning, trustworthy setup man (or 7th inning too for that matter).</p>
<p>4th &#8211; When you bring up guys from minors you can strike lighting in a bottle (2007 Joba) but that doesn&#8217;t happen twice in 3 years. Melancon might be great but can you trust him vs. Boston when Youkilis is up as the tying run? NO.</p>
<p>There are plenty of reasons why Joba should stay &#8211; I agree. He has the makeup. He might be a future ace. Our ace, this year, however makes $20 million. He goes by the initials CC. You may have seen him around, he&#8217;s the biggest guy on the team. He will be starting Game 1 (assuming we get there) of the postseason. Joba will start Game 4 and give you his classic 6 innings 2 runs. What happens next? Coke? Fill int he blank reliever gives up runs. I&#8217;d rather have Joba in the pen this year where he can pitch in several playoff games and have a major affect for us. </p>
<p>While I am all for dominant starting pitching, I believe the pen is very important too and it is our biggest weakness, our achilles heal if you will. Joba to the pen solves that problem without hurting our rotation. Remember, Hughes did pitch 8 innings (0 runs) vs. a better lineup than Joba tonight giving up 2 runs (could have been more without &#8220;the dive&#8221;) vs. a bad lineup.</p>
<p>My argument comes down to 1 question and 1 question only: Would you rather have&#8230;.<br />
A) Joba in the rotation, Hughes in the minors (not developing), and Pu Pu platter of relievers<br />
or<br />
B) Hughes in the rotation (developing as another potential ACE and actually pitching just as well as Joba), Joba setting up for Mariano</p>
<p>Choice B gives us a dominant pen and keeps the rotation intact. It also means Joba won&#8217;t reach an innings limit in September and get shut down for a month. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a no brainer. We have the pieces to win a championship this year but they are not in the right places. </p>
<p>Anyone who disagrees is just not watching.</p>
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		<title>By: S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin Jackson article blurb:

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/austin-jackson-349-and-the-waiting-game/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin Jackson article blurb:</p>
<p><a href="http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/austin-jackson-349-and-the-waiting-game/" rel="nofollow">http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....ting-game/</a></p>
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		<title>By: PreteFunkEra</title>
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		<dc:creator>PreteFunkEra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget Conan is starting the tonight show in a few minutes</description>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see Joba goes deep. I just don&#039;t believe a 5-inning SP with lots of Ks can do much help to his team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see Joba goes deep. I just don&#8217;t believe a 5-inning SP with lots of Ks can do much help to his team.</p>
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		<title>By: Voodoo Chile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voodoo Chile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pel has the audio before the guy speaks, that&#039;s how quick he is.</description>
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