Game 52: Rangers at Yankees
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YANKEES (30-21)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Cabrera RF
Gardner CF
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (3-2, 4.78).
RANGERS (30-20)
Kinsler 2B
Young 3B
Blalock DH
Cruz RF
Murphy LF
Byrd CF
Davis 1B
Saltalamacchia C
Andrus SS
Pitching: RHP Vicente Padilla (3-2, 4.71).
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES.
THEY MET AGAIN: The Yankees and Rangers played three games from May 25-27 on Texas. The Yankees won two of those three games. The Yankees have won 25 of the their last 36 games against Texas.
STREAKS: Derek Jeter has hit safely 15 straight games and Mark Teixeira in 14 straight.
MILESTONE TIME: Jeter has scored 1,499 runs in his career. He would be become the fourth active player with 1,500 runs and the fourth Yankee in history with 1,500.
START ME UP: Jeter is 14 of 41 (.341) in the first inning. He has hit safely while leading off the first inning in nine of his last 11 games with six singles and three doubles. He as reached base safely (via hit, walk or HBP) in 11 of his last 16 such plate appearances.
PERFECT STREAK: The Yankees have gone a MLB-record 18 straight games without making an error. Their last error came on May 13 in Toronto when Ramiro Pena misplayed a grounder.
BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM: The Rangers lead the majors with 83 homers, the Yankees are second with 80.
TRACKING JAX: Alex Rodriguez has 560 home runs. He needs three more to tie Reggie Jackson for 11th place in baseball history.
UPDATE, 4:36 p.m.: That’s it from me for now. Kevin Devaney is covering the game in the Bronx and he will take over the blogging once he gets back from the clubhouse and batting practice. Hope you enjoy the game.
I’m enjoying being in a city free of seagulls and insects.
UPDATE, 5:05 p.m.: Hey, Pete again. Just had to mention this. I’m getting a lot of “Why isn’t Swisher starting? Girardi is a idiot” e-mails from people.
Listen, I love people who read my blog. Here’s to you. But stop thinking you know more about the Yankees than Girardi. Swisher is 1 for 15 against Padilla with five strikeouts. He’s 0 for his last 12 with four strikeouts and a GIDP.
Swisher finally seems to have his swing intact. Why screw him up against a pitcher he obviously can’t hit? Let Gardner start and when the Rangers go to the bullpen, you have Swisher ready and waiting for an at-bat or two.
The Yankees have won 15 of 19, let’s give the manager the benefit of the doubt, shall we?
UPDATE, 6:44 p.m.: Josh Hamilton on the DL with a sports hernia.
UPDATE, 7:23 p.m.: Hey, Kevin Devaney here taking over for Pete for the rest of the night. He’s pretty much gotten you up to speed on everything. Here’s a few more things as we settle into the first inning:
Girardi said the rotation will remain the same for now, which means Chien-Ming Wang is still a reliever. “We had discussions and, at this point, nothing has changed,” Girardi said. “Everybody is still on schedule. We’re happy with the progress that (Wang’s) made. But, at this point, we’re staying on schedule.”
Pettitte threw and said he felt ready to pitch tomorrow night. That could have been Wang’s opening.
Xavier Nady (elbow) played catch today and said he felt better. He had to stop throwing yesterday after experiencing some pain. He’ll take tomorrow off and throw again on Thursday. Jose Molina had an MRI this afternoon, which will be examined by a team doctor tonight.
Swisher is fine. He’s just getting the day off against Padilla, who has struggled in his career against.
Damaso Marte (elbow) will throw a bullpen on Friday. Cody Ransom will report to Scranton on Thursday.
Other than that, enjoy the game. The first inning ends with the Yankees putting the first two on and not scoring a run. Like they say, it’s hard to put runs across the board here at the new Stadium.
UPDATE, 7:57 p.m.: This has A-Rod grand slam written all over it.
UPDATE, 7:59 p.m.: Guess not, although it should have been a bigger inning than that. The Yankees made their first error, except it was on the basepaths. Had Matsui not run up on Posada — or if Posada taken off for third the way he should have — this could have been a different inning. It’s 2-0 Yanks.
UPDATE, 8:26 p.m.: Posada’s miss-fire into center field ends the Yankees’ major league record for games without an error at 18. The more alarming part of that sequence was the fact Texas is willing to run all day on Posada. That’s three stolen bases in less than four innings.
UPDATE, 8:40 p.m.: I can understand Teixeira not being happy with being hit by a pitch twice. But why would Padilla hit him to load the bases with Rodriguez up?
UPDATE, 8:43 p.m.: That’s how a player gets his revenge for being hit — a hard slide into second to break up a double play and allow a run to score. The run was No. 1,500 career runs for Derek Jeter.
UPDATE, 9:06 p.m.: This isn’t your typical Yankee Stadium nine-run game. The Yankees have 10 hits, nine of which are singles. Jeter just hit his third and walked in his other AB. Matsui’s homer was the only extra-base hit.
UPDATE, 9:16 p.m.: It was pretty weird just now to look down and see Andruw Jones wearing a catchers mitt and warming up reliever Warner Madrigal between innings while Saltalamacchia got ready. Three years ago Jones was a potential Hall of Famer and the best defensive outfielder in baseball, and some believed among the best ever. Now he’s a spot starter in the outfield and is warming up a pitcher I’m sure he doesn’t know by name. How quickly baseball can change.
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Swish gettin a day off?
The point is moot.
The season is moot.
Surprised Swisher isn’t starting after finally waking up last night.
OMG GIRARDI IS AN IDIOT
He is throwing this game away!!!
we can not win with this lineup!!!
we will be out of first place in no time!!!
Joe Torre would never do this!!!
Fire Girardi!!!
I think that´s the best lineup possible! Maybe a healty Nady would make that lineup better!
All things considered, this is probably the best lineup they’ve fielded all season.
Im happy that swish is getting the day off but i’d like to see gardner benched after not steeling sunday, im still upset about it.
I love the speed of me!
That lineup just looks so good. Melky has been swinging the bat well and he is still our 8th hitter.
Sorry a was asleep! damn what was I thinking! Sorry !
Wow Jeter and Arod the only righties in the lineup. can u say short porch?
On the one hand, Swish is hitting .385 over the last 4 games with 1 HR and 4 RBI’s. On the other hand, he’s like 1 for 15 against today’s starting pitcher.
Joe June 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
OMG GIRARDI IS AN IDIOT
He is throwing this game away!!!
we can not win with this lineup!!!
we will be out of first place in no time!!!
Joe Torre would never do this!!!
Fire Girardi!!!
Is this a joke or what?
hes bein sarcastic..
Why isn’t Jobber starting in CF? He’s clearly more athletic than Joe gives him credit for.
What! No Angel Berroa!
That’s outrageous, egregious, preposterous!
and the stats of him at home are soooooooooooo bad!
Lineup looks good tonight. Swisher badly needs a day off which is probably Gardner is still playing and I think his day off (Gardner’s) will come tomorrow.
“I love the speed of me!”
Dude do me a favor, just tap the ball up the middle and shut up. And stop making errors in the OF and drawing figurines green what’s wrong w. you.
Where the heck is Swisher?
Girardi screws up yet again. Why can’t he just have a set lineup?
Please let me go and let me move on with my life.
Its time to go on another 8-10 win streak and run away with the division!!!
Move Rivera to CF
Melky moves over to RF
Swisher to bullpen – he’d be a sick 8th inning guy
Joba becomes the new closer
Wang rejoins the rotation
GET IT DONE CASHMAN
I’d rather have a struggling Swisher than an exciting Gardner, but that’s me
Swish’s good eye watches ball4s, Gardner’s good eye watches called strike3s
@Angel: Better than only beeing a pinch runner
Lets go for 10 games over
re: the wang discussion from the last two posts.
i think they’ll move him before the end of 2010, but probably not this year. i don’t see him in pinstripes one way or the other in 2011.
to me, the arbitration thing is much more insulting than them botching his rehab/return. the guy pitched TERRIBLY, why shouldn’t they be hesitant to bring him back. but the arbitration thing was a slap in the face.
then again, chien-ming wang is a grown man and this is a business. maybe he ought to toughen up a bit.
DT,
Enough. It’s pretty clear that contributing 6 innings of stellar defense at 3B last night, Angel Berroa needs the day off to charge his batteries so that he can get ready to pinch run at some point this series. That could be the difference the AL East; he’s championship team material, just below Alex Cora on the championship player calibre scale.
Torro June 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Where the heck is Swisher?
Girardi screws up yet again. Why can’t he just have a set lineup?
and you probably said last week that swish should be benched… swish needs a day off and now that melky is back girardi can give it him.
Mark Feinsand made a good point on the radio last night. Girardi pretty much has his A lineup now, with Posada and Arod back, and considering that Swisher and Nady were interchangeable from the beginning. Now is a great time to start giving guys a day off here and there, as all the other offensive pieces are in place.
“Swish’s good eye watches ball4s, Gardner’s good eye watches called strike3s”
pretty sure he’s batting around .340 since the sub in for Melky…there’s a stat somewhere like 11 for 35 I think.
Cue the Swisher compliants…
its about time swish gets a day off…this should be the line-up for a week. Swish needs to just regain his composure and just sit for a handful of games. Regardless if he was 2 for 4 last night..hes been what 6 for 78 the past month. (just a guess obviously) but he has been putrid
love the lineup but why rest swisher now when he finally looks to be heating up at the plate?
“Please let me go and let me move on with my life.”
You’re not going anywhere until the deal for DeRosa is finalized.
To Brett:
At least you get to play! I won the Rookie of the Year!!! Last night they did not even let me get dressed with the rest of the team.
So Swisher gets a day off, yet Matsui who hasn’t gotten a hit in a month is in the lineup every day
Makes perfect cents
Torro
June 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Where the heck is Swisher?
Girardi screws up yet again. Why can’t he just have a set lineup?
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Even a charismatic, twittering, life of the party like Swisher could use a day off. Relax.
Relax, I’m not a mathematician, but Swisher is 38 of his last 161.
Gardner is 24 of his last 113. It’s ok to give Nick a days rest and it’s not going to hurt the team, the offense, or the defense.
Matsui hasn’t hit in a month?
Funniest comment of the year
I like this outfield set up..much better than having swish in there, he just isnt an everyday player in my eyes.
“I like this outfield set up..much better than having swish in there, he just isnt an everyday player in my eyes.”
And Gardner is? ROFL
Swish is red hot yet Girardi takes him our of the lineup. For what?
When he was ice cold he was never given a day off
Girardi just has no clue how to create lineups. Cashman should just do it for him and end this madness.
Swisher just got two doubles and now he sits? Not sure if Melky is all the way back yet either. But all in all, not a bad lineup. Nice speed in the outfield.
My prediction: a-rod and cano will have big games, aj might make the first error.
when he was ice cold either gardner or melky were hurt and they werent going to let matsui play in the outfield.
This is garnder’s rookie season, give the kid a break, its not like he is havign the worst season ever. Swish has been around for a while and other than his brilliant start to the season really went back to his old self batting .220
“To Brett:
At least you get to play! I won the Rookie of the Year!!! Last night they did not even let me get dressed with the rest of the team.”
To Angel:
Being Rookie Of The Year in 1804 is a long time, they let you dress w/ the team it’s just that the only person you could keep up w/ is Jose Molina.
“Matsui hasn’t hit in a month?
Funniest comment of the year”
That poster also used cents instead of sense. He surely has outstanding intellect. Or did the middle school let out early today?
Swisher is 1 for 15 lifetime against Padilla…
http://www.baseball-reference......as=pitcher
I like this lineup.
“Swish is red hot yet Girardi takes him our of the lineup. For what?”
Swisher: 1-15 against Vicente Padilla for his career.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....t-yankees/
Swisher is 1-15 with 5 strikeouts against Padilla, FYI.
Bronson Arroyo just wins games
He is one of those pitchers who just knows how to win, regardless of ERA or his stats. On bad teams, he puts up 15 win seasons in a blink of an eye
Would be a fantastic pick up if Ca$hmoney can get him.
oops, wrong link:
Padilla vs. Yanks:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=4096
“Makes perfect cents”
No, the lineup makes perfect dollars.
Melancon sucks. Bruney is back on the DL. You are an ediot. Period.
Ron = Fatcessa ?
Mad Man
June 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Swish is red hot yet Girardi takes him our of the lineup. For what?
When he was ice cold he was never given a day off
Girardi just has no clue how to create lineups. Cashman should just do it for him and end this madness.
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Again with the short memories. Gardner was sitting with an injury due to his homeplate collision. Then Melky got hurt with his wall collision. Damon’s hurting. This is the first time in weeks Swisher has been able to have a day off.
And I’d like to know what your definition of “red hot” is. He had 2 doubles yesterday. Signs of breaking out of a month long slump, yes. Red hot? You’re easy to please.
“No, the lineup makes perfect dollars.”
Is there such a thing as imperfect dollars?
“Melancon sucks. Bruney is back on the DL. You are an *ediot*. Period.”
Enough said.
Who was the dude yesterday who called A-Rod not clutch? Right, he only has a walk off HR. And a game tying HR in the bottom of the ninth. And he bats 347 w/bases loaded w/17 grand slams. And in 07 he had two walk offs, both w/the Yanks down at the time. And that big HR off Papelbon in Fenway. And…
The list goes on.
Brandon-Thanks.
Ummm.. Ricky, Matsui sat last night. He pinch hit, walked, and then got a pinch runner. That was his off-day. Swish has been needing an off day for a while. A pitcher he has a terrible history against seems like a good enough time to do it to me.
Duh, when Bruney is BACK, hence the slash and the name ACEVES.
“You are an ediot. ”
We are not safe. Berroa and Tomko are still on the roster and both possess blackmail photos of Girardi and Cashman in compromising positions.
Us ediots who for some reason like Melancon ought to stick together.
Walt-Is Veras in on it?
Just watching Kim Jones’ interview with Mark DeRosa (missed it when it first aired)… how many packs of cigarettes has that guy smoked to get that voice?! Aside from that, sounds like he’d be a perfect fit for NYY.
Ricky
June 2nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
So Swisher gets a day off, yet Matsui who hasn’t gotten a hit in a month is in the lineup every day
Makes perfect cents
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Yeah you have to as far back as yesterday to see a lineup where Matsui wasn’t in it.
The team is playing great, yet this place is still populated by stupid complainers.
plain and simple Gardner and Melky should be the everyday starters and Swisher should continue his beginning of the season role as a bench player giving people days off..or as a pinch hitter.
maybe..just maybe then he will start hitting like he did in the beginning of the season like he has something to prove again.
No. Veras is actually good 50% of the time.
DeRosa is not good. Don’t be fooled. I had him on my fantasy team for a while and could not stop calling him “0-for-DeRosa”. He has a good game from time to time, but SOOOO many 0fers. Most days he’s just another out in the lineup. I might even go as far as to say he’s just another Wilson Betemit. We already had him. He’s no good.
Walt-His era is like 6, I believe higher than Tomko’s.
Veras is not Farnsworth since he did goodd last year but he’s been awful.
anyone else slightly concerned with posada catching 39 of the 46 innings (if he catches all 9 tonight) the yankees have played since he got activated? after catching no more than 5 in one game in rehab? doesn’t seem like a major risk, just seems like an unecessary one given how well the team is playing, how servicable (and then some) cervelli has been, and how valueable posada is the rest of the way.
1 d in good. And ERA capitalized.
JT-I’d take a Betemit as a bench guy.
>Veras is actually good 50% of the time.
HE’S ATROCIOUS 50% OF THE TIME!
I get to this time of day and always hope for two things.
1. To see Veras DFA’d.
2. To see Berroa DFA’d.
Will today be my day?!?
Its not like Posada has been able to run with the double play ball, and fly outs.
To William Buckner:
DFA’d!?!?!?!?! I WON ROOKIE OF THE YEARRRRRR!!!
Ricky
June 2nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
So Swisher gets a day off, yet Matsui who hasn’t gotten a hit in a month is in the lineup every day
Makes perfect cents
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LOL wow
the season is over.
what is girardi thinking playing gardner over swish?
why is arod in the lineup over berroa??
just kidding.
This line up is fine, as everyone is producing at this moment. I just figured that if Swish is finally producing again Girardi would want to leave him in to encourage his recent production.
William Buckner,
I am right there with you.
Melancon- we had Betemit as a bench guy. Don’t you remember how awful he was? Trading him for Swish was amazing. Swish is our “switch-hitter-off-the-bench” guy. And he’s a good one. No Ruben Sierra, but he’s good for that role. Betemit and DeRosa are not good. And Swish has been forced to play more than he should. But people will get healthy and he’ll be back to a more half-time player (as opposed to full bench player).
“plain and simple Gardner and Melky should be the everyday starters and Swisher should continue his beginning of the season role as a bench player giving people days off..or as a pinch hitter.”
Swisher has more Home Runs and RBI’s than Melky and Gardner COMBINED.
“maybe..just maybe then he will start hitting like he did in the beginning of the season like he has something to prove again.”
He already has. That’s kind of the point. He’s hitting .385 with 4 RBI’s over his last 4 games.
Swish doesn’t hit this dude though.
As long as I’m playing its a good lineup
i hope volquez is ok he is my fantasy pitcher.
heyman on wfan saying we will find out about volquez at 6:00
i have porcello also.
lets go detroit.
“DFA’d!?!?!? I WON ROOKIE OF THE YEARRRRRR!!!”
I know Angel and I hear you, Sammy, Frank, and Dino used to paint the town red.
It’s just, I can’t get over the fact that we could actually see a player with something to contribute.
I’m sorry. Good Bye.
“Swisher has more Home Runs and RBI’s than Melky and Gardner COMBINED.”
You can’t always measure performance by HRs, it’s about more than that.
“You can’t always measure performance by HRs, it’s about more than that.”
I included RBI’s as well.
JT-You’re right. But Betemit was a not terrible bench guy with power. Yes it was a great trade, but hypothetically if they gave him to us I think he’d be an asset.
Someone tell Heyman there is no way the Marlins will trade Hanley Ramirez. Certainly not back to the RS.
And IF they did do a deal that would pretty much wipe out the Sox system.
You’re talking Buccoltz Bowden and another prospect. Maybe Anderson.
ePic-I think Melky’s had a better year than Swishy, as good as his April was.
He can’t hit this guy.
Is there batting practice today? Does it get announced? I’m debating leaving for the Stadium now.
You’re right. Veras sucks. But he doesn’t have a 13 year history of suckitude like Tomko. Berroa has not had an OPS of .600 or higher in the last 4 years and is a terrible fielder. Seriously, think about it! There must be more than a hundred available players in the minors right now who are better than those two.
Matsui hasn’t gotten a hot THIS month, he means…
“I included RBI’s as well.”
How about hitting w/ RISP, SBs, defense, K’s ?
“ePic-I think Melky’s had a better year than Swishy, as good as his April was.”
Based on..?
“He can’t hit this guy.”
That’s fine and that’s the right reason to sit him.
You can’t measure grittiness and heart, and that’s what Gardner brings to the table.
When he is in the lineup, his impact (not stat-wise) is almost as great as Teix and A-Rod. Certainly more than Swisher.
WTH does Fatcessa think the Marlins would sell Hanley Ramirez so short, plus that’s the last place he wants to go.
OMG not the last 4 games???? lets try the month of May, when swisher was pretty much forced to start and play every inning he batted a whooping……wait for it……
.150 in the month of may.
Brett Gardner in the month of May (oh and his second month of his rookie season) .327
theres some facts for you
Hanley Ramirez is the Marlins franchise player. They are breaking ground this summer on a 650 million dollar, publicly financed new stadium. He isn’t going anywhere.
Those guys need to make up a new rumor. That one has no legs.
“You can’t measure grittiness and heart, and that’s what Gardner brings to the table.
When he is in the lineup, his impact (not stat-wise) is almost as great as Teix and A-Rod. Certainly more than Swisher.”
ROFL.
I am the greatest pinch hitter of all time. Period.
ePic-I’ll look up OPS, but avg., walk offs, and defense for one.
francessa talking about the rs getting hanley.
they would have to give up buchholz,anderson & more
why are so many people in love with matt holliday?
brandon inge has better numbers along with most of the league.
BTW….any chance game is rained out tonight??? Its raining here.
Swisher is 1-15 lifetime against Padilla.
Think and do a little research before whining about the lineup. You will learn something.
If there is Yankee BP it is going on right now or will be starting within the next 10-15 minutes.
“Bronson Arroyo just wins games
He is one of those pitchers who just knows how to win, regardless of ERA or his stats. On bad teams, he puts up 15 win seasons in a blink of an eye
Would be a fantastic pick up if Ca$hmoney can get him.”
LOL Francessa is that you????!!!!
I like Gardy. Let’s give him a shot.
“JT-I’d take a Betemit as a bench guy.”
LOL, I wish my memory was that short. Betemit was useless offensively and defensively. DeRosa can play every position except 1, 2 and 8… and play them competently. Betemit only plays the infield positions, and poorly at that.
DeRosa has shown that he can hit well enough to be a regular player on a playoff team. That’s a huge advantage over Betemit. Betemit has no business being consistently in the starting lineup, or even on the bench. Evaluating players based on how well they perform for your fantasy team will only get you so far… you need to watch the games.
Hanley to the Sox makes a lot of sense. They Marlins arent going to pay him what he’s worth. The Sox would fill their one true weakness (SS and another big bat) and the Sox have the pieces to trade.
The only thing we dont know is if he can handle the pressure of the Boston market.
Francesa sounded like he’s dying to have H. Ramirez on the RS.
He’s sounding more and more like a closet Sox fan.
And since when is Hunter Jones a “big arm”?
vin, not over DeRosa. But a pinch hitter w/power, regardless of fielding and other factors, has its uses.
Ron is Fatcessa no doubt. He just had him on the graphic on the television. The asshat has an over 5 ERA why in gods name would we ever want him to come to the American league.
http://digital-photography-sch.....h-baseball
Maybe Pete will bring back the iPhone pictures.
if it weren’t for the new stadium the rs might have a chance at hanley but it ain’t happening.
more like nick johnson.
The Marlins gave Hanley a 6 year, 72 million dollar contract extension a year or two ago.
They already ARE paying him.
Stop listening Diet Coke. He has no idea what he is talking about.
Hanley to the Red Sox makes no sense because the Marlins aren’t interested in trading Hanley Ramirez.
bru, try laptop, Bard, Anderson
About DeRosa.
He has good character qualities which is a plus.
He can hit and play many positions which is a plus.
The ultimate question is this: is DeRosa better than Berroa (money aside)?
Hey Pete, you write this:::
JETER ALWAYS SCORES: And he’s a very good baseball player. The Captain needs three runs to become one of four active players with 1,500. The others are Ken Griffey Jr. (1,626), Alex Rodriguez (1,616) and Gary Sheffield (1,497).
The only Yankees with 1,500 runs scored are guys named Ruth (1,959), Gehrig (1,888) and Mantle (1,677).
a few days ago. Wouldn’t that make Jeter the FIFTH Yankee to hit 1500, since A-rod is a Yankee with over 1500 runs scored?
“why are so many people in love with matt holliday?”
Are they still in love with him? He’s proven that he’s a good (not great) hitter away from Coors. I put him in the same category as JD Drew. Decent wheels, can get on base, has pretty good pop. Certainly not a 20 mill/year player. Ditto for Jason Bay.
Stop listening TO Diet Coke. Sorry for the typo.
Melissa, Pete hates A-Rod and doesn’t count him as a “true yankee”.
Or he messed up.
1 of the 2.
They did it only with the yankees.
“He’s sounding more and more like a closet Sox fan.”
Sounds like it.
“And since when is Hunter Jones a “big arm”?”
*shrugs shoulders*
Francesa sounded like he’s dying to have H. Ramirez on the RS.
He’s sounding more and more like a closet Sox fan.
And since when is Hunter Jones a “big arm”?
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Do any of your Francesa obsessers GET the fact the more and more he TWEAKS Yankee fans, the higher his ratings.
The Chamberlain and talking up the Red Sox is GOLD for him, yet you all fall for it like lemmings.
“Matsui hasn’t gotten a hot THIS month, he means…”
Has anybody gotten hot THIS month? It’s June 2nd!
Beltran flu is spreading.
WTH did he eat or WTH happened in Citifield ?
Melissa- i think he means 1500 runs while with the yankees
“vin, not over DeRosa. But a pinch hitter w/power, regardless of fielding and other factors, has its uses.”
Agreed… that’s why they got Swisher. DeRosa getting 4-5 starts a week in RF, and occasionally spelling Damon, Alex, Jeter makes this a better team. Of course it would mean that Berroa would have to go… but I think I can get over that, eventually.
Or Joeshi! is right.
Anyone know what the weather is looking like in the Bronx? I’m about to leave for the game.
You know stuckey, I used to think the same thing.
Now? Not so soure.
He really doesn’t have any idea what he is talking about when it comes to baseball.
He gets fixated on a POV and can’t let it go.
He doesn’t know other players, certainly doesn’t know the minor league system, and just kind of wings it.
For example, the Hanley Ramirez talk today.
The Marlins have no interest in trading Hanley Ramirez. They paid him big money, in large part because they needed to sure local government they were serious about keeping him in order to get the money to build a new stadium.
Therefore, he’s not on the market.
If the guy actually followed sports, he would know that.
He hosts a show that he has mailed in for years. He no longer has Russo as a foil so, whatever he says can’t be covered up like the old days.
He’s just a guy who doesn’t know near as much as he thinks he does. Unfortunately, he shows that everyday on his show.
vin, you’re right. But right now Nady is hurt and can’t field, so if Betemit were dropped in our laps I’d take him.
Why would Joba say to the Yankees he’ll go to the pen. He is a STARTING PITCHA!! He proved so far that he can do that! Does Mike have a direct line from the loony bin?
“Has anybody gotten hot THIS month? It’s June 2nd!”
Joba, maybe?
Would love to have DeRosa on the Yanks. Rest Damon, sit Swisher or Gardner, he can step right in. He also plays the IF.
If Nady cannot play the OF, DeRosa would be a good fit.
he probably did mean 1500 with the yankees..but either way that still makes AROD the same GREAT player..if not better since he passed that mark…but Pete will never give AROD credit
p.s AROD has always been better in my eyes
Changing his tune, It doesn’t matter what the reason that he winds up in the pen just that he does. WHAAAAT. He will only end up in the pen because he will be approaching his innings cap. Not because he can’t hack it as a starter as Mike has repeatedly stated. (albeit not recently).
“vin, you’re right. But right now Nady is hurt and can’t field, so if Betemit were dropped in our laps I’d take him.”
Yeah? Good luck with that.
http://www.baseball-reference......wi01.shtml
Berroa could do better, which is really saying something.
I really hate Francessa. I wish I could stop watching but I want to hear what retarded stuff he says next.
He’s just a guy who doesn’t know near as much as he thinks he does. Unfortunately, he shows that everyday on his show.
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Pardon me for asking, he do you know he shows it everyday, and if you do, why??
You just explained in great detail why he’s not worth listening to, yet do seem to anyway…
What am I missing?
“June 2nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
he probably did mean 1500 with the yankees..but either way that still makes AROD the same GREAT player..if not better since he passed that mark…but Pete will never give AROD credit
p.s AROD has always been better in my eyes
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Send Pete and e-mail and ask him who the better player is… I’d bet anything he’d say Alex. Stop the nonsense. Pete takes shots at him for two reasons: Alex does some dumb things, and because its funny to pick on people who should have the world by the ****s but refuse to act sensibly.
vin, you’re right. But right now Nady is hurt and can’t field, so if Betemit were dropped in our laps I’d take him.
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You cant be talking about the same Betimet that couldnt field on our team last year? When did he start playing the outfield? Id prefer to stick with Berroa. He isnt allergic to making contact with the ball.
I’m amazed Mike Francesa still has a show. Furthermore, I’m surprised he still has ratings. I could get better opinions on the Yankees from riveraveblues and lohud.
“Do any of your Francesa obsessers GET the fact the more and more he TWEAKS Yankee fans, the higher his ratings.
The Chamberlain and talking up the Red Sox is Gold for him, yet you all fall for it like lemmings”
Ever since Russo left he has been kissing the RS a$$. He was never like this when Chris Russo was his partner.
I guess they need (especially on a Met station) someone on his show that’s going to downplay the success of the Yankees and pump up the Sox.
That’s why always been saying even though it would be great ratings, no way WFAN hires Max Kellerman.
Besides Francesa probably not wanting a partner no way a station thats “home of the Mets” will have 2 Yankee fans as part of their biggest show on the station; afternoon drive.
I really hate Francessa. I wish I could stop watching but I want to hear what retarded stuff he says next.
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Bingo, and that’s why he does it. Russo is gone, now Francesa has to be the bug lamp himself.
And even if it isn’t calculated, does that make it any more justifiable to listen to it?
“I’m enjoying being in a city free of seagulls and insects. ”
Where are you, the north pole?
Never mind. Had no clue his year was that bad.
Patrick
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Anyone know what the weather is looking like in the Bronx? I’m about to leave for the game.
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Supposed to be only 5 percent chance of precipitation after 4 p.m., according to an earlier report.
S.o.S.-As a pinch hitter.
Anyway, had no idea his yr. was this bad.
vin
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
“JT-I’d take a Betemit as a bench guy.”
LOL, I wish my memory was that short. Betemit was useless offensively and defensively. DeRosa can play every position except 1, 2 and 8… and play them competently. Betemit only plays the infield positions, and poorly at that.
DeRosa has shown that he can hit well enough to be a regular player on a playoff team. That’s a huge advantage over Betemit. Betemit has no business being consistently in the starting lineup, or even on the bench. Evaluating players based on how well they perform for your fantasy team will only get you so far… you need to watch the games.
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Derosa has played every position except pitcher and catcher. He can’t play 2nd base? He has more games at 2nd base than any other position and is quite good. His worst position is third, where he can play but, not average. He could fill in at first. He’s also a pretty decent shortstop. He’s certainly no worse than Jeter, and he has filled in at the center field spot for the Cubs.
“If Nady cannot play the OF, DeRosa would be a good fit.”
I was thinking about this earlier. The Yanks have their 9 regulars (including Matsui and Posada), 12 pitchers, which leaves 4 bench guys:
Molina/Cervelli (backup C)
Pena (backup IF)
Berroa (backup IF)
Gardner (backup OF)
If Nady returns and CANNOT play the OF, then they would drop Berroa and have a VERY thin bench. Unless Nady can play RF 2-3 days a week, then he serves very little purpose on this team. I’d much rather have DeRosa taking Berroa’s spot and backing up both IF and OF. It would make for a much better team.
vin, you’re right that you have to watch the games. But you know what? going 0-fer doesnt help anyone but the other team. He has brief spurts of hitting well. He is not a good hitter. I cant say I know much about him defensively. But he is not as good a hitter as people seem to think. Lots of goose eggs. You know when he hit? Against the Yankees. So I guess just for that, its worth getting him (though we dont face the indians again). F that guy.
you give credit where credit due..and pete doesnt do the for AROD..he is overly infatuated with jeter
Vin,
Swisher and Joba
Why isin’t Swisher in the lineup?
Is Joe trying to mail in the game?
GreenBeret7-You misunderstand, I think..not over Derosa, just if he were dropped in our laps I’d say sure.
Like I said, had no clue he’s batting 209.
Ever since Russo left he has been kissing the RS a$$. He was never like this when Chris Russo was his partner.
I guess they need (especially on a Met station) someone on his show that’s going to downplay the success of the Yankees and pump up the Sox.
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Its got nothing to do with it being a Mets station. Local sports radio thrives when there is stuff to complain about or a hot issue to debate.
The Red Sox stuff is pure calculation. The more he talks them up, the more he fires up Yankee fans.
It’s really that simple.
And as I said previously, I don’t begrudge him that. I just can’t BELIEVE so many people hang on his every word, even if it’s to ridicule them.
Rem-Swishy has horribe numbers vs. this pitcher.
SJ44,
I wasnt aware that they had locked him up. That’s a bad mistake on my part(and I’m not listening to Francessa).
I was just thinking….
“In the Land of the Blind the One-Eyed man is King!”
Kinda like Francessa when that idiot “Kwis Wusso” was on with him….now Mikey doesn’t sound as smart!
“He can’t play 2nd base? He has more games at 2nd base than any other position and is quite good.”
I didn’t say that… I said he couldn’t pitch, catch or play CF. I don’t recall seeing him in CF in Chicago, and baseball-reference doesn’t have it listed, that’s why I included it in his positions he couldn’t play.
We are in agreement… he can hold his own pretty much all over the field. Heck, I even agreed with you on the usefulness of Alex Cora in the offseason.
If Betemit fell into our laps the question would be: did he jump or was he pushed?
I loved Russo. He was not smart, but at least entertaining.
Nick in SF:
Brett Gardner hits a HR tonight
Francesa’s show is #1 in the ratings thanks to people who say he is stupid, they hate him, etc. If he is so bad, don’t watch/listen. Stick with ESPN if you think they are better.
After listening to Mets fans complain nonstop on WFAN about the lineup without Beltran, Wright, Castillo(!) or Santos(!!), it’s hard to tell what’s sarcasm these days…
Swisher at home: .537 OPS
Swisher on road: 1.108 OPS
Swisher vs LHP: .950 OPS
Swisher vs RHP: .846 OPS
And then his stats vs this pitcher in particular (1 for 15)…
Good day for a day off, no?
S.o.S.-As a pinch hitter.
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Melancon,
Its feast or famine with him. We dont need to make any trades for him. We can get Reggie out of retirement.
i listen to francessa for entertainment & comedic value not to be informed.
i also like when managers come on.
he is absolutely clueless but i like listening to him only when he talks baseball.
Yankee Fan…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt46WFdMd28
“Swisher is 1-15 with 5 strikeouts against Padilla, FYI.”
Not that I disagree with the line-up, but this to me means he’s due for a hit or two.
Let’s hope Burnett doesn’t get freaked out this time. I think he’s scared that every other pitch is gonna leave the ballpark.
Now that Swish is finally making a little contact, yeah lets sit him. Go Girardi
Here’s what I don’t like about Francessa: Someone was talking about Joba’s potential as a starter. And Mike cut him off (very rude) and said, “Who would you rather have, Mike Mussina or Mariano?” And the guy said he thought Joba’d be better than Mussina, which is where Mike shut him off the air. He said Moose has 270+ wins, Joba hasn’t shown he could be that good, and anyway he “wasn’t comparing the two.” So let me get this straight: You’re allowed to compare Joba to Mo, but when we make comparisons we’re not allowed? Also, he seriously believes it is more likely that Joba is as good as the best closer of all time who’s had a totally unique career, but finds it unlikely he’ll be as good as Moose.
Wow. That is beyond stupid.
I listen to Francessa because he is the most knowledgeable sports fan around
The guy has the highest rated sports talk show in the country and makes almost $5 million dollars. He has to be doing something right.
JT,
Would you believe DeRosa has only 2 more 0-fers than Johnny Damon this year? There are a lot of factors why guys don’t get a hit in a game. One of DeRosa’s 0-fers was yesterday against Joba… not sure how many times the Yanks have seen a performance like that (maybe against Halliday).
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’d be the second coming of Paul O’Neill, or even David Justice (more appropriate), but he would give the Yanks a pretty significant edge in both the Regular and Post Seasons.
S.o.S.-You’re right, you’re right. Not advocating a trade, just mentioning (before I knew he was hitting 209) he’d be an asset if we had him.
OK, If my choice is between Berroa and DeRosa, then YES, of course I take DeRosa!!! I’m just saying he is vastly overrated in my opinion. I felt the same way when we got Nady.
should i start porcello against the red sox with my fantasy team???
he is pitching at home.
i also have edwin jackson who has been almost if not as good as any pitcher in baseball.
“Now that Swish is finally making a little contact, yeah lets sit him. Go Girardi”
Figures a comment like this would come from a canine.
How come 10 different weather sites (weather.com, accu weather, yahoo weather, weatherbug, etc.) all have different forecasts for the same city?
One site says rain, one says sun, one says thuderstorms, one says cloudy
vin
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
“He can’t play 2nd base? He has more games at 2nd base than any other position and is quite good.”
I didn’t say that… I said he couldn’t pitch, catch or play CF. I don’t recall seeing him in CF in Chicago, and baseball-reference doesn’t have it listed, that’s why I included it in his positions he couldn’t play.
We are in agreement… he can hold his own pretty much all over the field. Heck, I even agreed with you on the usefulness of Alex Cora in the offseason.
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My error…I misread your position numbers for positions. As far as agreeing with me….see what happens when you do that? You get misquoted, ignored or mugged. If you’re not careful about agreeing with me, you’ll be getting nasty emails.
“Hey Mikey, I ever tell you about the time I got cut from my Teeball team. I think I was wearing the wrong color socks or something.”
“Mikey, you ever play Teeball?
Swisher is 1-15 against Padilla
Playing him against him will ruin his swing
“It’s got nothing to do with it being a Mets station”
I agree not totally but IMO it does play a factor. WFAN historically and presently appears to only hire Met fans as host. Or at least people who “hate” the Yankees. An example is ‘Adam the Bull’.
Only reason why Francesa is still there is because he’s been there since the beginning.
Nick in SF
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
If Betemit fell into our laps the question would be: did he jump or was he pushed?
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I vote for pushed.
DeRosa would be such an awesome pickup
However, we really need to be using whatever chips we have to improve the bullpen
Melancon,
No worries. With Berroa in the lineup yesterday, we all lost sight of whats in front of us. I thought Billy Crystal would have made a better 3rd baseman than one time R.O.Y.. The good news is we’re back to norm today, accept for the people who think Swish should be in the lineup because he’s red hot in June.
Guys like Carton and Sommers don’t even hide the fact that they hate the Yankees
The only Mets fans who are even remotely objective are Beningo and Roberts.
James 3D despite my name I agree.
Carton loves A-Rod though lol
OK, so DeRosa’s career numbers and trends are *slightly* better than I thought. But I hold grudges against anyone who sucked for my fantasy team. I assume they hate me, want me to be miserable, and will only destroy the Yankees should they join the team.
My error…I misread your position numbers for positions. As far as agreeing with me….see what happens when you do that? You get misquoted, ignored or mugged. If you’re not careful about agreeing with me, you’ll be getting nasty emails.
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Must have not been here earlier. Only GB can agree with GB. Some people will never learn. Always go against the grain.
Boston is one of those Yankee fans who is so cynical about his own team and is obsessed with the Red Sox. He is shell shocked from 04 and saw them overtake us before our eyes and win the 2 championships and now just accepts them as infallible.
There are plenty of those types on this blog and Yankee fans in general. I don’t know why people single out Franny.
*Francessa is one of those fans
“OK, If my choice is between Berroa and DeRosa, then YES, of course I take DeRosa!!! I’m just saying he is vastly overrated in my opinion. I felt the same way when we got Nady.”
Fair enough. He may be overrated by some (many), but I think I have him rated perfectly in my mind. Play him 5-6 days a week, move him around the field, and let him give you some quality #s.
In some respects, he’s similar to Swisher – very effective when given the right situation. What makes DeRosa so useful is that he (kind of like Figgins) can give you above replacement level offensive production, while platooning at 1 position and subbing for resting guys at others. Like Swisher, if you simply pencil him into one position (say RF), then you’ll get burned. Normally when you give a guy a day off, you replace him with a guy who, quite frankly, is on the bench for a reason. DeRosa is better than simply a bench guy, and not good enough to be an everyday, single-position starter.
OK, now I’m done ranting about the guy.
“Here’s what I don’t like about Francessa: Someone was talking about Joba’s potential as a starter. And Mike cut him off (very rude) and said, “Who would you rather have, Mike Mussina or Mariano?” And the guy said he thought Joba’d be better than Mussina, which is where Mike shut him off the air. He said Moose has 270+ wins, Joba hasn’t shown he could be that good, and anyway he “wasn’t comparing the two.” So let me get this straight: You’re allowed to compare Joba to Mo, but when we make comparisons we’re not allowed? Also, he seriously believes it is more likely that Joba is as good as the best closer of all time who’s had a totally unique career, but finds it unlikely he’ll be as good as Moose.
Wow. That is beyond stupid.”
Totally agree … why is it every time Francesa or anyone else makes their case for Joba in the pen, it is never mentioned that the entire time Joba pitched in relief he was never used as a conventional 8th inning set up man.
Yes, he did pitch in the 8th inning, but because of the “Joba Rules” he was never allowed to pitch multiple days in a row … So for Francesa, et al, how do we know that if Joba was put back in the pen and was suddenly asked to consistently pitch 3 out of 4 days (like a Ryan Madson), how do we know that he would maintain his high performance level … and … how do we know that his arm would tolerate it? Bruney throws just as hard as Joba and he can’t stay healthy.
Now that the calendar reads June, I expect AJ Burnett to start a run of outstanding outings….I expected him to have 10 wins by the break…..
“But I hold grudges against anyone who sucked for my fantasy team. I assume they hate me, want me to be miserable, and will only destroy the Yankees should they join the team. ”
Which is why I don’t do fantasy sports… that, plus I’m afraid it’ll consume my life (at least the moments that aren’t spent here).
EXACTLY disco stu.
Derosa is a career .280 hitter, despite never knowing where he was playing from one day to the next. He drives in runs, he hits for power, he’s a solid defensive player most anywhere. His career numbers if he hadn’t been on a team that had good players at his positions, so he was a fillin. You could easily double his career numbers had he not been pidgeon holed as a utility player for so long. Not only that, but, in 40 PS at bats, he’s hitting .350.
Gammons said he thinks Beckett will win 6 games in the month of June
“OK, so DeRosa’s career numbers and trends are slightly better than I thought. But I hold grudges against anyone who sucked for my fantasy team. I assume they hate me, want me to be miserable, and will only destroy the Yankees should they join the team.”
JT, you sound like a typical Yankees fan, which means that you sound like a nut job.
DeRosa would love to be a Yankee so he won’t destroy them.
Gammons said he thinks Beckett will win 6 games in the month of June.
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Gammons gets more delusional by the day.
Vote Melky for Pepsi clutch performer of the month!
“Gammons said he thinks Beckett will win 6 games in the month of June”
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Wow!! Im surprised he didnt pick Penny to do that. I mean he did regain his velocity as he said before the season even started. Did he also say that Ortiz will hit 20 this month(in spring said he had lost weight and looks better than ever) along with Hansen saving 20 games in June? Thats right Hansen isnt on the team any longer even though he was in his words the best bullpen pitcher in the league.
Gammons was talking about Candyland, not baseball.
Yeah, Laura, but you forgot that he clearly hates me, personally, and knows that destroying the Yankees would make me miserable.
Vin, I’m with you. I’ll go for 3-5 days a week though.
GreenBeret, you seem to be one of those overraters I was talking about. I dont understand the fascination with this guy.
S.o.S.
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
My error…I misread your position numbers for positions. As far as agreeing with me….see what happens when you do that? You get misquoted, ignored or mugged. If you’re not careful about agreeing with me, you’ll be getting nasty emails.
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Must have not been here earlier. Only GB can agree with GB. Some people will never learn. Always go against the grain.
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I agree with you agreeing with me.
So, LeBron James as a shutdown reliever/utility man extraordinaire?
*”Listen, I love people who read my blog. Here’s to you. But stop thinking you know more about the Yankees than Girardi.”*
Wow Pete, and here’s to you! I don’t know how many times I have said the thing about posters here vs. Girardi, and vs. the Yankees. I think one of the reasons that I absolutely enjoy the heck out of the season and am so at peace with losses as well as wins is that I KNOW my knowledge about how the Yankees should be managed is a flyspeck in the Yankees ocean! (And I respectfully say the same about the knowledge of the posters here, though some may be the equivalent of two fly specks as opposed to one…)
And though it is a huge blow to my ego, the Yankees have managed to get to first place without my input or the input or any poster here!
“Yeah, Laura, but you forgot that he clearly hates me, personally, and knows that destroying the Yankees would make me miserable.”
LOL!! You are right. He clearly hates you.
JT
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Yeah, Laura, but you forgot that he clearly hates me, personally, and knows that destroying the Yankees would make me miserable.
Vin, I’m with you. I’ll go for 3-5 days a week though.
GreenBeret, you seem to be one of those overraters I was talking about. I dont understand the fascination with this guy.
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Personally, I really don’t care what you think of Derosa or me, for that matter.
Vote Melky for Pepsi clutch performer of the month!
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I will have to check and see if he got the most pies in face and how often he sported the wwe championship belt.
>Gammons said he thinks Beckett will win 6 games in the month of June
http://i42.tinypic.com/351swn4.jpg
“Gammons said he thinks Beckett will win 6 games in the month of June”
Well, he’ll have 6 starts to do so – against:
@ Detroit
NYY
@ Philly
Florida
@ Washington
@ Atlanta
I know the Yanks passed on Hansen the St. John’s local, but who did the Yanks pick instead ?? Being the Sox scouting department is so vastly superior
Beckett will beat Florida, Atlanta, Washington
He always pitches well against us too. If he can win tonight, I think he could do it. Philly in Philly won’t be easy though with their lefty bats.
Hey All
I am headed to the Game tomorrow night and wanted to see if anyone knew of a place around the stadium that has a bag check? Cant exactly bring a suitcase and briefcase into Yankee stadium….
Any insight or tips are greatly appreciated
-AD
We picked JB Cox right?
Pat M- C.J. Henry.
Personally, I think tonight’s lineup is the best Yankees lineup with the available personnel. Let Swisher be the big bat off the bench, there is value to that too. He has a nice OBP, but an all or nothing approach otherwise. I don’t mind seeing him in the #2 spot like last night, otherwise he has slowed down the lineup except when he was hot. This lineup has speed at the top & at the bottom, the slowpokes in the middle and a nice L-R-L sequence. It’s also the best fielding lineup.
If Melky doesnt win the Pepsi clutch performer. He will have a damn good shot at winning the Marie Calenders Pie performer of the month.
Pat M
Didn’t you say you expected a 15-5 run a few weeks back?
14-4 so far during their errorless streak.
Wow, GB, didn’t mean to insult you. I read the comments here a lot and mostly regard you as someone with good posts. Oh, I forgot, you dont care what I think. My bad.
Here’s to 10 games over and an extended error-less streak!!
(**knock on wood**)
Yankes picked Austin Jackson in the 8th round so all is good.
http://www.baseball-reference......ype=junreg
Pat M, I think you were getting at the 2006 draft. The Yanks picked CJ Henry in ‘05.
Pat,
It was C.J. Henry which in turn brought us Abreau which is greater than Hansen. I think we did all right all things being equal.
Hi everyone! I don’t listen to sports radio- what was the word on Joba last night? Or was the radio filled with crying Mets fans?
only idiots complain daily about the lineup. then peter tells them that swisher is like 0 for 13 against a pitcher and then they bitch about something else..
we have the I like the set lineup crowd, that would be good if the whole team was young and healthy, and the disparity between players were significant enough.
i can see complaining if berroa starts but not if any of the other position players start
“Let Swisher be the big bat off the bench, there is value to that too. He has a nice OBP, but an all or nothing approach otherwise.”
I like Swisher’s OBP, and the “all” part of all or nothing (he does have 10 HRs and 11 2Bs).
Two out of three ain’t bad, you know.
Trisha, good to see you here. I have a proposition for you, fair and true.
Can you go the entire game thread without insulting anybody who comments on this board? If you do, I will in turn not poke fun at any of your posts.
It’s win-win: nobody gets insulted by you and the atmosphere is more positive.
How about it?
(And please do not interpret any implicit threat that I will make extra fun of your comments if you refuse – that is not the case)
“Vote Melky for Pepsi clutch performer of the month!”
IDK how he doesn’t win it, I mean what was 2 walkoffs in that span and a gametyer
Texas is here, I’m scared
nothing new here.. players get to sit when they begin to hit under Girardi.
JT
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Wow, GB, didn’t mean to insult you. I read the comments here a lot and mostly regard you as someone with good posts. Oh, I forgot, you dont care what I think. My bad.
Here’s to 10 games over and an extended error-less streak!!
(knock on wood)
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you think I have good posts, but, you call me “an over rater”, whatever the Hell that means.
You can’t have it both ways.
Anyone hear anything about Nady throwing todat as well?
S.o.S.
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Pat,
It was C.J. Henry which in turn brought us Abreau which is greater than Hansen. I think we did all right all things being equal.
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Lidle was better than Hansen.
“If he can win tonight, I think he could do it.”
matsuzaka goes tonight.
GB7, don’t we all overrate or underrate, depending on any particular poster’s point of view? That can’t be an insult or we’d all being doing nothing but insulting each other.
you think I have good posts, but, you call me “an over rater”, whatever the Hell that means.
You can’t have it both ways.
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Gb over rated? No way. Over the hill? Maybe.
Nick,
Whats the Over/Under of how many people Trish go after for being negative? Thats assuming she doesnt take your offer.
Trisha, good to see you here. I have a proposition for you, fair and true.
Can you go the entire game thread without insulting anybody who comments on this board? If you do, I will in turn not poke fun at any of your posts.
i see this proposition and raise it this: if trisha will go the entire game without insulting anyone or their posts, i will not post a single negative thing about the yankees, the posters here, or anything else for a week. only positive stuff. no criticism, only the silver lining.
Stuckey June 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
“. . . Do any of your Francesa obsessers GET the fact the more and more he TWEAKS Yankee fans, the higher his ratings.
The Chamberlain and talking up the Red Sox is GOLD for him . . . “.
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BINGO!!!!!!! If you don’t listen or talk about him his opinion doesn’t matter (not that it does anyway).
GreenBeret7-I’m not involved so don’t shoot the messenger, but I believe he thought you were making Derosa out to be better than he really was (overrating him).
Seems to me (although again, I acknowledge due to my utter uninvolvement that my opinion counts for nothing) that it was a simple disagreement, nothing more.
Georgy catching AJ tonight vs Texas …oh boy be back later.
“Hanley to the Red Sox makes no sense because the Marlins aren’t interested in trading Hanley Ramirez.”
Hanley to the Red Sox for Beckett and Lowell!
Did Girardi know a lot about the Yankees last year when he let Mussina pitch to Manny with 1st base open?
S.o.S.: answering that question (or assuming a negative response) would be contrary to the spirit of my offer.
“Hanley to the Red Sox for Beckett and Lowell!”
By way of comparison, DeRosa has struck out 45 times and walked 19 while Swisher has struck out 48 times and walked 35. So we’d be getting a guy who strikes out almost as much as Swisher (i.e., a ton) while walking far less. BA is mediocre. He’s only played two games at SS since 2006.
If Nady can’t come back at all, I wouldn’t hate getting DeRosa, but wouldn’t look forward to it either. The missing link in this lineup is a legit number 5 hitter who can play a serviceable RF. DeRosa isn’t the answer to that.
I think our team’s only major weakness is an effective bullpen.
Pete- I’m with you on nit-picking daily things with the lineup, but haven’t you been doing the same thing with your Berroa commentary? Should we just chalk that up to “Joe knows the Yankees better or should we say what we think about the team that we watch everyday?
Bottom line is the Yanks whiffed on Henry….Then again so did the Phillies……Buddy, I did throw out that 15-5 streak, and I also think they’ll not have a losing streak of more than 4 games for the remainder of the season…..Also I do think it’s time for AJ to get into a groove…..
DeRosa would be very useful as a utility player who could give a lot of guys some rest and dispense with the need for Berroa.
People who think he would take Swisher’s job are wrong.
I meant the PERCEIVED need for Berroa.
Tommy H-You know what, you’re right.
“Georgy catching AJ tonight vs Texas …oh boy be back later.
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agree. This has all the makings of a disaster.
Whatever happened to Teix4mvp
Guys on the Rangers board on mlb.com are saying Hamilton won’t be in the lineup tonight and might be placed on the DL this weekend…
Brandon, I accuse you of underrating Posada.
I could see Hanley going back to Boston for something like Lowrie, Delcarmen, and Bowden
That would be a nice package for FLA
Don-Didn’t A.J. pitch to Jorge last start..vs. the Rangers? And shut them out?
“If Nady can’t come back at all, I wouldn’t hate getting DeRosa, but wouldn’t look forward to it either. The missing link in this lineup is a legit number 5 hitter who can play a serviceable RF. DeRosa isn’t the answer to that.”
I don’t disagree… but I’m not sure who is available, and fits that criteria. Wouldn’t mind seeing Choo come over, but he’d come at a pretty high cost.
Melancon-
Posada was only activated on Friday
Hamilton is on the DL now, and could need surgery. He is out anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months.
AJ is among the league leaders in HRs allowed and Texas leads the league in HRs
If AJ bombs today, it won’t be because of Posada.
“The missing link in this lineup is a legit number 5 hitter who can play a serviceable RF.”
I say bring Paulie out of retirement.
Hey Wave Your Hat–
Since April 17 (40 games), Swisher has a BA of .194 (terrible), OBP of .348 (decent not great) and SLG of .380 (bad). Yet he has 6 HRs and 20 RBIs. So basically if he doesn’t walk or hit a HR, he’s an out. Sounds like all or nothing to me. He is a very average at best fielder. I do like him as a part-timer or a late-innings power guy off the bench, and his attitude is a breath of fresh air.
S.o.S.
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
you think I have good posts, but, you call me “an over rater”, whatever the Hell that means.
You can’t have it both ways.
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Gb over rated? No way. Over the hill? Maybe.
Nick,
Whats the Over/Under of how many people Trish go after for being negative? Thats assuming she doesnt take your offer.
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I haven’t even started to climb the hill, yet. I’m just a kid.
“Hamilton is on the DL now, and could need surgery. He is out anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months.”
That would be a big blow for a team that might actually have a shot at winning its division for the first time in a lot of years. As good as he was last year, I have to think Daniels would want a re-do on the Hamilton for Volquez deal.
Actually, defensive metrics rate Swish above Nady defensively. Go figure.
Hamilton wasn’t doing much anyway… not a huge loss for them.
Andru Jones, Cruz, and Marlon Byrd are their 3 best OFs anyway.
I can’t see them picking up DeRosa’s contract just to replace Berroa, unless there is something about Arod we don’t know.
“I say bring Paulie out of retirement. ”
I say they just take down O’Neill’s banner and put it in RF – no one would be brave enough to hit the ball to it.
Swisher IS an all or nothing player.
If he had a bland personality, people here would be killing him and demand he be on the bench.
“I have to think Daniels would want a re-do on the Hamilton for Volquez deal.”
Volquez went on the DL again today as well.
“Andru Jones, Cruz, and Marlon Byrd are their 3 best OFs anyway.”
They’re not better than a healthy Hamilton, though.
“I say they just take down O’Neill’s banner and put it in RF – no one would be brave enough to hit the ball to it.”
Any opposing player who does will get beat up by nutjob fans.
Steve B-
Did I disagree? You said he was all or nothing, and I said I liked the “all” part. Swisher’s struck out 48 times, so’s there’s certainly a chunk of “nothing” in there as well.
However, I like Swisher as the everyday guy in RF. I know I’m in the minority. If you accuse me of being an overrater I’ll try to take it in stride.
Swisher has been very unimpressive as a fielder, so has Gardner.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
GreenBeret7-I’m not involved so don’t shoot the messenger, but I believe he thought you were making Derosa out to be better than he really was (overrating him).
Seems to me (although again, I acknowledge due to my utter uninvolvement that my opinion counts for nothing) that it was a simple disagreement, nothing more.
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He could start at multiple positions for a lot of contending teams. He can hit, he can play defense. He’s no superstar, but, he’s as good a hitter as Nady and a better defensive outfielder. He eliminates a need for players like Berroa. He could also make Swisher expendable. He’s the ultimate manager’s dream. He plays and hits well anywhere.
“AD
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Hey All
I am headed to the Game tomorrow night and wanted to see if anyone knew of a place around the stadium that has a bag check? Cant exactly bring a suitcase and briefcase into Yankee stadium….
Any insight or tips are greatly appreciated
-AD”
Across the street from the stadium are a row of bars. One bar has a bowling alley in the back and bag checking in the front. I can’t seem to remember the name of the place, but it is past Stan’s and there is a cheap hot dog vending lady outside of it. Blue awning I believe. I’ve check bags there and they’ve been reputable.
Kasey, thanks for making it a value-added 2-for-1. Of course I couldn’t include being positive in my offer since I’m so darned optimistic anyway.
GreenBeret7:Question: Why is he moved so often?
By moved I mean traded.
If Nady can play the field, Swisher is going back to the bench anyway (and will stay there unless Nady goes in a deep slump).
Unfortunately, it looks doubtful that Nady can play the field. That;s why picking up a guy like DeRosa could be big.
For some reason… games on the road have been much more enjoyable than home games.
I don’t know.. I’m just not a big fan of playing in a pinball machine. It’s uncomfortable to watch, especially when the other team does the HR hitting like Philly did against Burnett.
“Swisher IS an all or nothing player.
If he had a bland personality, people here would be killing him and demand he be on the bench.”
He is the Giambi replacement.
If you look at avg, obp, ops, hrs, whatever.. it’s almost the same exact player.
Defense is nothing to be excited about either.
Anyone have a local weather report for the stadium?
Is there still a chance for rain?
I love NYS.
E-gawa — I agree that Swisher is a lot like Giambi in many ways. However, I think Giambi was a bit more consistent in his production. Having said that, Swisher is a better value.
“By moved I mean traded.”
He was traded once… for monetary reasons. The Cubs’ ownership was/is for sale and they wanted to clear his salary. Before that he signed as a free agent with Texas and then Chicago, after originally being signed by the Braves.
Wave–
OK, fair enough. At the moment I think Gardner may be picking up a bit at the plate, so for right now I like Gardner in CF and Melky in RF. It’s a much better fielding OF too. Swisher hasn’t embarrassed himself out there and he’s made a couple of real nice plays, but he has to stop airmailing it to the catcher. Cutoff men are there for a reason.
Like I said, defensive metrics rate Swishy’s defensive skills above average.
vin-Ah. Okay.
Weather–
Only scattered light precip on the radar, nothing else.
If Swisher is Giambi, that’s a good trade, no? Less than half the salary, switch-hitter, can play the OF and 1B, not as slow, not as brittle… Right?
Well yeah… Swisher is like Giambi skill-wise. And most of us always complained about Giambi and couldn’t wait to get rid of him.
I always liked Giambi.
“Like I said, defensive metrics rate Swishy’s defensive skills above average.”
Which shows you all you need to know about defensive metrics. He’s been well below average in RF this season. He doesn’t have very good speed, doesn’t seem to get good reads, doesn’t have a good arm, and makes mental throwing mistakes.
I’ve been saying this since the offseason… if Swisher plays 3-4 times a week, he’ll be a star in New York. If he has to play more than that, then he’ll be exposed very quickly as being a limited baseball player. The best thing to happen to Swish was supposed to be Nady being the everday RF. Unfortunately Xavier’s elbow didn’t cooperate.
Game will be played tonight… radar is mostly clear. Maybe a sprinkle or two.
Tomorrow is a different story. 60% T-Storms from 4 PM through the night.
Probably a DH on Thursday
C’mon Pete! You know us better than that, we’re NYY fans! It’s possible that JoeG knows more than we, but there’s no certainty. Even though it was (slightly) before my time, I’m sure that plenty of folks knew more than Casey Stengel from ‘49 to ‘64 too!
When do we play the Mets?
According to both Newsday’s David Lennon and the New York Post’s Twitter updates, the Mets have announced that an SNY employee, who may have had contact with Mets players, has been exposed to the highly publicized swine flu.
The SNY employee has since been taken into isolation in Pittsburgh.
They also announced that while Carlos Beltran and John Maine are both under the weather they aren’t showing symptoms consistent with those of swine flu.
While this is something the team has to keep an eye on, there is certainly no reason to panic as the majority of cases of swine flu are not life threatening, and are in fact more mild than the regular flu.
For those of you who are wondering SNY is a regional sports network that covers the Mets and airs a majority of their regular season games. The Mets have part ownership in the network. SNY employees come in contact with the Mets players on a regular basis, whether it be for interviews or filming for their weekly TV shows.
Update (5:59 PM): Despite not showing symptoms, Mets CF Carlos Beltran is not at PNC Park tonight because the team is not positive that he does not have swine flu.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
GreenBeret7:Question: Why is he moved so often?
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He was a free agent twice, traded once and the Cubs are still regretting it. The FA they signed has been a bust, so far…Milton Bradley.
vin-I guess. I ddon’t know. Don’t ask for which metrics, I only know this because of steve Goldman and the Pinstriped bible.
ooops I need to add the link
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-swine-flu
nick,
my pleasure. i hope she takes us up on it.
Didn’t that same defensive metrics system say that Gardner is better defender than Melky and has like a +19.2 UZR?
Shows you all you need to know about ratings. Gardner’s defense has been well below average, yet the metrics make it look like he is a gold glover.
We play the Mets next weekend after Boston
Gardner has done fine minus a couple of misplayed balls.
Anyway, see ya’all later. Go Yanks!
The Mets might have swine flu?
Innoculate the core!!
GB, I’m not trying to insult you, so please dont take it that way. I am in agreement that DeRosa is as good a hitter as Nady. I dont think Nady is much of a hitter either. And I’m not saying Swish is any better than them (except his eye and more pop, but I think we’ve established he’s all or nothing). In my opinion, none of those guys are really good enough to be every day players. But I’ll take all 3 of them moving around and getting the job done. That’d be a helluva bench.
“E-gawa—I agree that Swisher is a lot like Giambi in many ways. However, I think Giambi was a bit more consistent in his production. Having said that, Swisher is a better value.”
Yeah, I’d agree. Giambi had the upper hand in almost all the categories but they are still pretty close.
Defense metrics are unreliable. They haven’t figured out those fielding statistics yet.
Nick in SF -]
Oh, that was bad. Really bad. So bad I had to laugh!
*I think it’s also too early to say he’s a better value.. his splits are a little scary month by month for the second half of the season.
Nick in SF June 2nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
The Mets might have swine flu?
*Innoculate the core!!*
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LOL Nick
Possible swine flu for the Mets? Yikes
Wouldn’t innoculation be too late?
Quarantine the core!
Still, that is not good news about the Mets and, all of the teams they’ve come in contact with.
“Swisher hasn’t embarrassed himself out there and he’s made a couple of real nice plays, but he has to stop airmailing it to the catcher.”
Yes, he’s made some pretty bad throws. I think they have led to people underrating his defensive abilities in RF. Personally, I do trust semi-objective fielding stats like UZR, and they say he’s been OK on the whole.
I subjectively agree with that, as he hasn’t failed to get to many balls I thought should have been caught.
JT-
Just hit the ball where it’s pitched. You can’t worry about pleasing GB7.
Swish has been an OK outfielder with the occasional “what the heck was he thinking?” moments.
“Still, that is not good news about the Mets and, all of the teams they’ve come in contact with.”
That’s why I’m not in favor of Interleague Play!!!
kasey, I will talk about your offer as soon as I get back. Running out for a bit!
About the one that preceded yours – YAWN!!!
Rickles – what is the over/under on your prop bet?
you know what they say – it’s all fun and games until someone gets a snake down their shirt. Then it’s Absolute Hysteria.
Innoculate the core!!
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This is a great line.
We thought the Philly series would produce fireworks… I think this will be even better.
They face 2 lefties and they are a righty-heavy lineup who kill lefties. They also face Burnett who gives up a ton of HRs.
We face 3 mediocre righties with our healthy lineup (though Feldman is 5-0)
The offense better not fall asleep.
Melancon IS the savior. If he gets a chance, he will lock down the 8th inning, period.
“you know what they say – it’s all fun and games until someone gets a snake down their shirt. Then it’s Absolute Hysteria.”
http://images.buycostumes.com/...../31698.jpg
Strike one already, but who’s counting?
I don’t care who the offer is officially made with, as long as the result is the same.
Gardner should play over Swisher
Gardner adds speed to the basepaths and gets better defense out there too.
“If he gets a chance, he will lock down the 8th inning, period.”
if memory serves, he got a chance earlier this year and it didn’t go well.
And DT, thanks for your input. That was Almost Helpful.
Tomorrow’s game won’t get played, weather looks awful all day,
Doubleheader on Thursday most likely, which is unfortunate for a couple of reasons
1. The pen will be burnt out for the Rays series and for Hughes on Friday
2. Texas goes to play Boston this weekend, and their pen will be burnt our too against Boston
Don’t look now, but Cano seems to be showing that he can hit 5th, without trying to do too much and getting his swing all messed up. Having a low strikeout guy in that spot really lengthens the lineup.
http://www.baseball-reference......;t=b#lineu
Lets at least give credit when it is due. Girardi, YES GIRARDI, deserves a lot of credit for getting the early run production up this year. Why? Because he made the great move of batting Jeter first!!! Just look at that stat, IT IS HUGE!!! It puts tremendous pressure right out of the gate, and in some later innings, on their starting pitcher, gets his pitch count up early, we get to see a lot more of his pitches, etc. I think it has had far more benefits that just the ones above. Good move, thank you very much Girardi for the insight to move Jeter to first in the batting order. GIRARDI DESERVES BETTER THAN THE KNEEJERK REACTION HE HAS BEEN GETTING. Sure, he is not perfect, but nobody is, including me and you. The question for us all is do we learn from our mistakes. I am certain he will and will only get better and better. THANKS AGAIN GIRARDI.
Frank,
All the more reason AJ needs to step up and win tonight. Teams usually don’t sweep doubleheaders. Don’t want to lose 2\3 and have a toast bullpen against Tampa (who is still very dangerous despite their struggles, our biggest threat to a playoff spot).
“And DT, thanks for your input. That was Almost Helpful.”
np. I do my best work After Hours.
Burnett— DON’T WALK ANYONE. Make sure all the HRs you give up are solo.
“Burnett—- DON’T WALK ANYONE. Make sure all the HRs you give up are solo.”
He tried that against Philly and still gave up 6 runs
I can tell you one person who is not in love w/the Yanks’ starting lineup tonight:
Vincent Padilla
Good luck, buddy.
tony sanchez on nesn next.
wrong bc catcher.
Tomko hasn’t pitched in 10 days
What is his purpose for being up here while Melancon is still in AAA? They knew he was terrible and they still know that and that’s why they haven’t used him in a while. So why is he taking up a roster spot?
dennis, if you’re out there, I’m going with the Yanks, Tigers, Mets, SF Giants, Blue Jays in various combos tonight. I feel like a sucker, but I like the aces (Santana, Halladay, Lincecum) especially and the matchups in the other games.
Go favorites!
Josh Hamilton with a sports hernia…something that does not sound fun from my basic research on WebMD.
Good news on Nady…….
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._rota.html
Nice also to see Marte making progress….
I love when Paul O’Neill covers the games. He cracks me up
Any news on Bruney? I thought he was supposed to throw sometime early this week
Hello?
Big K!
gameday not working right for anyone else?
Hi Tom.
Great job by AJ!! Let’s go Yanks!!
Time Warner Cable go out for anyone else? And why is nobody posting?
the innerwebs are being funny right now
Ooh, it’s back, nevermind.
AJ sporting a fine breaking ball tonight…..
T.V. and cable is Fine here in Jersey (Comcast)
It looks like the suits didn’t get to the game yet…
Nice start Jetes
Cable fine up here in the Keweenaw Peninsula of Michigan…
Padilla looks older then Berroa
Good top of the first.
Sam Adams “Irish Red” is a mighty tasty brew. It goes well with baseball.
Let’s keep the patience going..This is his 1st start off the DL so it might take him alittle while to find the plate..
i’m loving jeter leading off and damon hitting second. what a great idea.
i miss the hell out of joe torre, but i’m not sure it’s an idea he would have given a shot.
Dirty Byrd is a faker.
Tom, are you a Stereolab fan? Or anyone else?
why isn’t gameday showing the pitches properly?
is this their newest plot to make you buy premium
Arod has had alot of weird swings recently…
You think next time Tex gets in that situation, Girardi will have to send the runners?
Come on Robi – show them you’re a #5 hitter!
I predict Cano will hit a would-be sac fly.
on the bright side, alex must be feeling better as he’s clearly rounded into postseason form.
Funny you should mention Stereolab, Nick.
Just yesterday a coworker left “Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements” in my mail box with a note “Listen to them, you will enjoy”
I need to go for a drive a put the album on.
frustrating….lets go aj
Darn it
It’s been well documented how pathetic we are in that situation (man on 3rd with less than 2 outs). It doesn’t make it any easier to watch it play out AGAIN.
I think next time we have RISP we should hypnotize the players into thinking the bases are empty…seriously…
Girardi sucks. Man on 1st and 3rd and 1 out but he doesn’t call a sac fly play. Fail.
Well that stinks…They need to get Posada’s bat going so he can bat 5th. Cano is a very bad option in that spot.
Can one imagne how many RBIs A-Rod would have if he could hit even decently in the clutch? Lord knows, he gets more opportunities than anyone.
error? Nope, a hit
A-Rod hits great in the clutch if you look at the nubers. Please.
That should’ve been an error.
Tom: I’ll take that as a ‘not yet’.
You should look at the numbers. The nubers say otherwise, I’m sure.
A-Rod bats 347 with 17 RBI’s with the bases loaded.
RBI’s=grand slams.
I didn’t realize first inning RBI’s were clutch.
Poor Jorge
So let me get this straight: If A-Rod doesn’t get the run in during the first inning, he sucks in the clutch. But if he does then its because it was the first inning and there was no pressure?
Ummm, were we talking specifically about a bases-loaded situation, Einstein? That wasn’t the set-up in inning #1.
kasey – tell me what you expect and I’ll tell you if I’m going for it. I actually like your offer of positiveness! And since I don’t see you as a fraud, phony, or disingenuous freak (those aren’t insults but apt desriptors of the liar who made the original offer – just his daily need to trash me, dressed up in very transparent terms!) – I do need to know your expectations.
And by the way, other than to defend myself if that loser once again tries to sideswipe me with his thinly-veiled insults, you need not worry about anything coming from me and going in that direction. I always try to avoid hell at all costs.
I will now add a pre-emptive YAWN!
Poor Jorge? Obviously Burnett’s tipping something but those throws were awful.
ZMAN7777-FIRST INNING.
Small sample size but Alex was batting .600 with a man on 3rd less than 2 outs coming into tonights game.
Posada is going to have to get better with his throws. It will be a problem if not…
“It’s been well documented how pathetic we are in that situation (man on 3rd with less than 2 outs). It doesn’t make it any easier to watch it play out AGAIN.”
The team is hitting .352 with a .903 OPS in that scenario. You may want to look into this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A....._heuristic
Thanks NYYanksFan.
LOL at Salty’s jersey
Well there was strike 3.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it June 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Poor Jorge? Obviously Burnett’s tipping something but those throws were awful.
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The poor Jorge was for when he got hit in the face mask with the ball
At least Burnett is on.
This is amazing. From the How Much Longer Can You Play Him File: Davis has struck out 78 times in 166 ABs, or 47% of the time. That’s can’t be easy to accomplish.
Oh ok S.A.
“I don’t see you as a *fraud*, *phony*, or *disingenuous freak* (those aren’t insults but apt desriptors of the *liar* who made the original offer – just his daily need to trash me, dressed up in very transparent terms!)
Trisha, wow! Getting it out of your system before kasey responds?
Just curious, what makes me a ‘liar’ on this Yankee comment board?
Arod can probably use a full day or 2 off. I wonder if his body is fatigued from the surgery or it is just because he is still in spring trainging? I am not getting on him for not hitting, I just wonder if he needs more days off then they have gave him.
trisha, Nick has been a good poster for a long time who made the comment as a tongue in cheek joke.
I saw it. Lighten up.
LOL at Salty’s jersey
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Immagine if they had 3 digit numbers? He would have to go with a nick name. HE HATE ME.
Davis makes Swisher look like Tony Gwynn.
Plus, YOU entered him in the OPPc.
That’s right, I know.
Nick and Trisha under the O’Neill Banner!!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2.....509807695/
At least we got speed on the basepaths, LOL.
Thank you for the kind words, Melancon. I gather you’re not brand-new here.
I wonder if I can somehow blame my swine flu on the Mets…
Nick, I come here for info but don’t blog.
Terrible baserunning there.
Tom in N.J.
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2.....509807695/
what lies beneath?
don’t say water cooler
vin: I’m trying for less insults and violence, not more.
Is Posada the worst base runner ever?!! What an idiot.. Let me guess he came back and his hamstring is not 100%..
whacha doing there Posada?
Posada!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you round second look at the 3rd base coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ehhh poor baserunning. Could have had a man on third. Jorge had committed even someone slow like him would have made it.
i rather have cervelli. not only can posada not throw a runner out be he cant run the bases either
fudging retarded.
there will be no “it’s been addressed” in the post-game wrap-up.
oy vey posada
“what lies beneath?
don’t say water cooler”
Pain!
Hello Tricia…I see you made a grand enterance
Wow, that’s just bush league, brain-dead thinking.
No matter the condition of his hammy, base running has never exactly been Jorge’s forte. His speed or his decision-making.
“what lies beneath?
don’t say water cooler”
Nick’s scratched and clawed body. LOL
Sorry, couldn’t resist. OK, I’ll stay out of it now.
We’re not gonna score, are we?
Nice after all of that they will probably get nothing now…
they ought to add a column for errors on base running and give the miserable catcher one there
what lies beneath?
don’t say water cooler
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Dead bugs?
trisha,
allow negative posters to post negative things for one day without comment or reaction, and i’ll stick to positive stuff for a week.
“i rather have cervelli. not only can posada not throw a runner out be he cant run the bases either”
Yeah, Cervelli wouldn’t have been on base to make the mental mistake.
There we go!
1-0 Yanks
Big 2 out hit by GGBG!!
Gardner!
I happily stuff crow into my face!
Nice going, Gardner!
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
We’re not gonna score, are we?
*****
Why yes, yes we are
Good job Gardner. He makes up for the idiot catcher who can’t run the bases or throw anyone out…
SlowSada
“Nice after all of that they will probably get nothing now…”
LOL
gj gardy
I see that the whiners are here and warming up, since the first batter. Of course, they’re wrong, again.
hey, imagine that, gardner got a hit. no lineup complaints now, huh?
Erica, crow has become my main meal.
Dopey Posada would have scored.
Nice piece of two-out hitting by Gardner, taking a little of the sting out of Jorge’s gaffe.
jete always finding fun ways to get on base…
GB7, I am almost never negative. A rare relapse.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Erica, crow has become my main meal.
****
I like guys who admit when they are wrong. It’s so rare. LOL
“allow negative posters to post negative things for one day without comment or reaction, and i’ll stick to positive stuff for a week.”
Kasey — It ain’t going to happen. She’s not capable of it.
Rachel
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Good job Gardner. He makes up for the idiot catcher who can’t run the bases or throw anyone out…
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Of course, you wouldn’t be whining if the hit by Matsui had been caught like it should/could have been, and Posada was doubled off of first.
time for a loooong drive
Torre always said that Bernie had the worst baseball instincts of any player that has played for him. I wonder where Posada is on that list….#2?
“hey, imagine that, gardner got a hit. no lineup complaints now, huh?”
Yeah, but Swisher might have hit a homerun!!! or struck-out.
Tex message time.
This is a fascinating at bat.
Bases loaded. Padilla at 45 pitches
Posada has always been a terrible base runner. Very bad instincts since his rookie year.
Bawk
trisha-
to clarify, no namecalling, no i told you so’s, no in-your-face. just enjoying the game and discussing the team.
Padilla is a tomato can. If we don’t get him here, we’ll get him soon. He will not see the 5th inning.
balk!
YAY GGBG!!!
Balk! (Is that spelled right?)
Very nice…Padilla got caught deciding which junk ball curveball to throw…
Those runs count too!!
speaking of high pitch counts, dice-k was at 46 with two outs in the second when i looked.
Rachel
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Torre always said that Bernie had the worst baseball instincts of any player that has played for him. I wonder where Posada is on that list….#2?
was this in his book?
Who is their long-man? Kris Benson? He’d be ready to go… hasn’t pitched since last Wednesday against NYY.
Okay, A-Rod granny time.
Another fascinating at bat.
always seems like its arod up with 2 outs
Padilla has a history of hitting batters on purpose. He’s a bum.
c’mon Alex
Cheap HBP
was hitting tex intentional?
blow this game open
a rod timg off…time to get it back now
Melancon, though the fraud’s post may have appeared “innocent” to you, there is nothing innocent about him or his intent when it comes to his sick need to continually trash me, even though he plays the innocent game. Now if the same is done to you by someone else, I promise I won’t make comment.
“speaking of high pitch counts, dice-k was at 46 with two outs in the second when i looked.”
So you’re saying that he’s back to his normal self?
Classic A-Rod.
Oh darn it
Awwwww….
Over the past two games, A-Rod’s bating 333 with bases loaded.
a-rod for sure needs roids
“UPDATE, 7:57 p.m.: This has A-Rod grand slam written all over it.”
Fail.
terpbomber-Bases loaded A-Rod bats 347 with 17 grannys. Over the last two days? 333.
Texas got lucky after all of that and only 2 runs given up…
Okay, that’s two straight innings. I know, I know, he’ll come through in the third.
51 pitches for Padilla
Does anyone else think Wang deserves a start sometime soon?
kase, you got it! And you’ll be positive for an entire week with no complaints about the team whatsoever my brother? (I didn’t go back to read your original post.)
Do I get to make predictions and then if they come true say they came true?
Melancon — do you clean A-Rod’s tub before he bathes too?
Wow, Padilla had thrown 23 innings in the 3 games (8, 7,
before going on the DL. He had been getting into a groove, after a rocky April.
AROD seems to have cooled a bit from his recent good stretch. would have loved to get more runs there oh well at least padilla has a high pitch count
5 LOB for Arod already in 2 innings
ZMAN7777-He’s batting 333 with bases loaded over the past two games.
Padilla is a train wreck, and we’re not taking advantage. Happy with the lead though!
p.s. – Nick in SF rawks.
“Okay, that’s two straight innings. I know, I know, he’ll come through in the third.”
I won’t complain, as long as he bats every inning.
I think wang more than deserves a start soon the guy won 19 games and looks like he has his stuff back how do you not give him a go
LOL The big picture, son, the big picture.
Trisha, you called me a liar. And then a fraud. Are you going to back that up with… anything?
I refuse to believe that you’re so unhinged as to take anything on this internet comment board as earnestly as it seems, but those are kind of a serious things to say about someone.
What have I lied about? How am I a fraud?
ZMAN7777-No, I just point out irrational logic not backed up by stats.
But hey, job’s open if you want it!
“if trisha will go the entire game without insulting anyone or their posts, i will not post a single negative thing about the yankees, the posters here, or anything else for a week. only positive stuff. no criticism, only the silver lining.”
kasey, I’m in. And if it appears that I am going anywhere near the edges (it won’t be on purpose, I promise), just tell me!
ZMAN7777-347, 17 grannies.
Brian June 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Does anyone else think Wang deserves a start sometime soon?
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I think he does.
We will just have to wait and see how things play out.
always seems like its arod up with 2 outs
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There was 1 out his first time at bat. People we’re up 2 nil. Relax.
YAWN!
That’s about all I intend to address “elsewhere”.
GO YANKEES!!!
The wind tunnel tried on that 1 but good thing it wasn’t able to succeed….
Btw- Did anyone catch the beginning of the game when Kay asked O’Neill if fun causes winning or winning causes fun?
O’Neill said usually fans can’t see it, but fun creates winning cause the clubhouse is a more relaxed atmosphere. So if Paul O’Neill is saying it- it must be true.
Brian, I have a very strong feeling that Wang will be back in the starting rotation within the next week or so. Just a feeling.
If they are patient like they should be Padilla shouldn’t be long for this game. I think Holland is next in line out of their bullpen.
Melancon — His grip on that bat in tight situations is enough to shave wood from the handle. You’re also quoting one narrow statistic (bases-loaded situations), many of which were played during the A-Roid seasons.
I hope Wang’s back and Hughes is out.
Hughes’ll have his chance next year w/Pettite probably gone.
He had that guy 0-2. Just put him away.
ZMAN7777-This year he has a walk off HR and a game tying homer in the 9th. In 07 he had two walk off HR’s =, both with the Yanks trailing at the time, and a HR off Papelbon at Fenway.
“Brian June 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Does anyone else think Wang deserves a start sometime soon?
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I think so… I was pushing pretty hard for Phil to the BP (which is something I don’t take lightely). However, I think Phil will make the next start, otherwise we would’ve heard something by now… which kind of delays the issue – what if he pitches well again? Oh well, having too many capable starters is very much a “first-world” problem.
Come on, Trisha, I think you have more integrity than to call someone a liar and a fraud with no basis and then refuse to explain it. Please don’t prove me wrong.
Swisher would have airmailed that home.
“Do I get to make predictions and then if they come true say they came true?”
of course, as long as in saying they came true you don’t do so at the expense of another poster.
come on AJ, throw the change once in a while lol
Dang.
Well, we knew it wouldn’t be that easy.
All with 2 outs. Ridiculous!
The 2-out walk killed him.
Damn lead gone already
Gah
wow 2 outs and that happens talk about deflating
opps!!
Melancon 7th- I agree I know Hughes is making strides but when you got a wang just sitting there waiting a move has to be made. I think hughes can go down to the minors and work on some things now
Crap. I jinx it.
You’re right, he’s clutch. You’ve brought up 4 situations where he’s been clutch, so you must be right. And now between his clutchness and Burnett’s poor pitching, we’re losing to Padilla.
unbelievable…two-out madness in this game
I’ve had it with Sterling. Worst HR call I’ve ever heard. He made it sound like it was a nothing flyball at first, and now he’s saying it was a “shot” and that he “hit it a ton.”
Burnett gives up HR like its his job. Jeez.
Burnett out soon, Wang in.
Burnett has nothing.
Burnett sucks in the new stadium so far.
Typical Burnett game.
Put him in the BULLPEN THIS IS ATROCIOUS!!
AJ seems to lose focus sometimes
that was just a get me over fastball
ZMAN7777-THE NUMBERS SUPPORT IT!!!
I’m checking to make sure, you try.
That is what happens when you don’t put batters away. Well keep it 3-2 and lets go offense.
“All with 2 outs. Ridiculous!”
I think the word you’re looking for is “Atrocious.”
2 out runs is what wins games.
So much for jumping on a turd pitcher like Padilla and avoiding the pen.
He’s falling apart here. Come on
Can Wang pitch tonight?
I hope that Burnett doesn’t blame the ballpark EVER.. He misses with his pitches a ton. The pitches to Blalock, Cruz and Murphy were right over the plate..If he put his pitches where he wanted to he wouldnt give up so many bombs..Pathetic…
He can’t throw his breaking ball for strikes.
another sweet signing by Cashman
Gotta stop the bleeding! Nothing worse when the first two outs are easily made, and then it follows with a big, long rally.
Take Burnett out before he blows the game.
ouch left the pitch right there then just a let down base hit to murphy burnett has to be more consistent with his location. He gets hurt when his location is off quite often.
Reminds me of that BOS game. His pitching there was ATROCIOUS as well too.
What goes on with AJ? He started out hot-hot-hot and now he looks like he’s totally lost. Seriously, what happens with him?
“Burnett has nothing.”
4 Ks in the first 8 outs, wouldn’t say he has “nothing.” Just seems like he’s temporarily “lost” whatever he had to begin with.
Hey, just because Burnett is struggling right now doesn’t mean we aren’t going to demolish Padilla.
All this from 0 and 2 on Young.
AJ does not have his good stuff today. Even in the first couple innings the Rangers were hitting into hard outs.
Who’s better, Burnett or Padilla? Hmmm. Tough one.
This can be a real bad inning, since 2 out, walk, double, HR, single, single
Another pitch up and over the plate…Burnett is a joke. Let me guess it is the stadium’s fault right?
What the heck? No pie for AJ today
vin-We’ll go with that.
ok- get out of the inning already…
that was close
I almost had a heart attack there.
cannot let the .193 hitter hurt you
whew!!!!!!!!!!
agreed nick. if AJ can get out of this inning without giving up anything more, he’s shown he can get back on track just as quickly as he loses it.
Gardner has no range.
What a joke Burnett is. You know it’s obvious who should be moved out of the rotation for Wang. It’s AJ. He’s been our worst starter this year and it’s not even close. He had one good start last time out after like 8 in a row poor ones and now he’s back to this. Unreal. Just make him throw a fastball and slider and put him the bullpen so Wang can come back. I don’t care if he’s an 80 MM reliever. They need to move someone out of the rotation and he’s the worst.
whoaaaa thank God
“Can Wang pitch tonight?”
It’ll be very telling about his future if he does. I know Aceves was warming up yesterday, but I would think he could go 3.
Pete I think you’re going to have to give this blog up and start anew. You know it’s time when someone like Posada who has served the Pinstripes with class for almost 20 years (since draft) gets butchered in comments and a guy like Arod who has done nothing except pose a distraction and one bullsh@! headline after another, gets rationalization. Maybe Posada should slap a ball out of someone’s hand to get to first or yell ha to get on base or admit to steroid use or be caught cheating on his wife or take a series of pictures kissing a mirror or bash another player in print or………Maybe Posada, and Jeter for that matter, should embarrass the organization on and off the field. Maybe then they’d get more respect from most of the “fans” here.
Thank god for Chris David. If he cant get him out, yak em!!
Burnett needs to fix himself or he wont be long in this game.
This all just came out of nowhere. giving up hits on 1-2 counts is just not going to lead to anything positive
It will be an Aceves night, because Burnett will be lucky to pitch into the 6th given pitch count.
He looks like he just gets frustrated and blows it.
nice catch by gardener there saves burnett there from further damage
kasey, do I get to blame Posada for Burnett’s woes???
Get those bats crackin
Really? Is Wang available tonight? If he throws shut out innings tonight from the bullpen it is imperative he gets back in the rotation. 6 good starting pitchers is never a bad problem. Burnett is not atrocious as there are pitchers on teams doing far worse than him, but I think he could benefit from fixing out some of his mechanics and perhaps mental issues.
Man, two outs, two strikes and Burnett lost movement, location, everything. Hopefully, he fixes it between innings.
Another pitch right over the plate to strike out artist Davis…What was that 6 meatballs in that inning? Some location would be nice…
Why does Gardner turn around 8 times before he makes a catch in straight away center?
Amandla-Hey moron, I defend Posada, too…when you don’t use logic I’m going to point it out. Saying A-Rod’s not clutch is a media creation not supported by fact.
We’ve had plenty of chances to knock out Padilla. Hopefully, they’ll leave him in for a few more innings.
Someone needs to put blinders on AJ and avoid letting him know the score. It seems everytime the team takes the lead, he starts serving batting practice.
So I’m over here thinking that Porcello is going to destroy the Sux. Well, maybe he will win the game in the end, but I really meant destroy as in no runs, blah blah blah.
Drat.
Was that Robbie swinging at pitch 1?
They said Wang is not available until tomorrow. So it is Aceves tonight…
I think we need to save Wang for tomorrow night in case Andy struggles or the back issue pops up again. Hopefully AJ can push it through 5 innings and then bring in Aceves.
the key, as pettitte said, is not to walk people. this game won’t end 3-2 so it’s up to burnett to keep it under control from here.
This game is gonna be won in the seventh inning on.
Calling it.
So far, Posada has not impressed me since he’s been back from the DL.
We need to work the count on this guy. He doesn’t have it and Burnett needs help.
Aren’t they saving Wang for tomorrow in case Andy’s back gets all wonky? Let’s hope AJ does not repeat that inning here on out, though he is at 63 pitches
also lol @ that person who said Gardner has no range. He just saved 2 more runs, and probably more than that if Davis’ potential double drops. Get a clue fool, Gardner has above average range and you have no clue if u argue that
10 pitch inning
Don’t worry. Seventh inning on.
Looks like Padilla got a new lease on life and he’s gonna cruise from here on out.
“He had one good start last time out after like 8 in a row poor ones and now he’s back to this. Unreal. ”
Actually, he had 3 very good starts, 1 bad start, 2 OK starts, 1 bad start (against Halladay), 1 good start, 1 bad start, 1 very good start, and now this start. Generalizations rarely work in baseball.
I really meant that as, is Wang available tonight or would he be saved in case Pettitte’s back flares up again tomorrow?
Nothing worse than going down 1-2-3 when your pitcher just had a rough inning.
I see Cano is dipping towards the .300 line.. He’s done nothing lately and he’s batting 5th?? No excuses for AJ. He’s just terrible right now! They should throw manure in his face after the game..lol
KO-It was a joke. I love Gardy.
“This game is gonna be won in the seventh inning on.
Calling it.”
Won by whom?
Yankees will win.
well not the inning I was looking for, I guess Padilla found himself, lets hope A.J does the same thing.
Burnett has now thrown more pitches then Padilla at 63. Ofcourse Cano with another 1st pitch out.
Unfortunately, AJ reverted back to the old AJ.
0-2, 2 outs on Young and instead of attacking him, he nibbles, walks him and falls apart.
We’ve seen too much of that from him since the fell apart at Fenway.
Better get Wang ready now because its doubtful AJ will last much longer.
Everybody talks about Hughes or Chamberlain getting pulled out of the rotation for Wang. However, if AJ doesn’t start pitching better, he’s the odd man out.
You can’t stay this inconsistent, as well as winless at home, and expect to stay in the rotation.
Just a truly awful job of pitching in that inning.
Let’s hope he can hold up for another inning or so or the bullpen is shot for the series.
LOL O’Neil just asked Kay if he got upset after his big strikeouts. Kay’s a reporter, he never played ball.
We did our best to keep Padilla’s pitch count down in that inning.
trisha,
i actually do think burnett would be more comfortable throwing to molina but it’s part of his job to adjust.
i actually wonder if he wouldn’t benefit from getting yanked early today, just to hammer home that a lapse in focus like he suffered last inning won’t do. i’m not sure if that would help get the message across but somebody needs to. it seems like at least once a game lately, he has an inning where he just inexplicably loses it. that’s been the story his entire career. his stuff is so good that IF he could ever just keep it together, he’d be so dominant. it just hasn’t come together for him for an extended period of time thus far in his career.
Laura-Who do you think?
A-Rod!
But I’m not calling that, just predicting it (a subtle but important difference). I’m CALLING game won seventh inning or later.
Gosh I missed that inning
what happened?
This guy batting’s last name sounds like he could also start his own brand of wine
SJ,
usually you’re dead on but this team didn’t spend 82 million on burnett to shelve him.
Havent we seen this script before? Pitcher struggles in the first 2 innings, the Yankees let him off the hook to the tune of only 2 runs and a million left on base. The Yankee pitcher gives up the lead and the struggling pitcher pitches great into the 7th inning. Hope this show is not on schedule for tonight.
A.J seems to loose focus in middle of innings.
I still have faith that AJ will come around, but it’s not that early in the season anymore….and it is very disturbing how quickly he can fall apart. What he’s doing now isn’t working, so maybe he needs to change things up. What a disappointment coming off of his last start – the Yankees need AJ to be better than this.
“Was that Robbie swinging at pitch 1?”
Yeah, he seems to be doing that a lot lately. His hitting approach seems either run patient/not patient. Seems like the kind of hitter who always needs the hitting coach in his ear.
Let me guess he will steal 2nd now…
The problem with AJ is, when it goes bad, it really goes bad.
He doesn’t have enough variety of pitches to get outs if he can’t locate his fastball.
He has barely hit Jorge’s glove all night. His fastball is all over the place.
When that happens, things get ugly quick for him.
That’s always been his limitation as a pitcher.
Now, he hits the #9 hitter and turns the lineup.
I think we’ve seen enough. Get him out now before the game gets out of hand. Should be Wang time right now.
Well it was good while it lasted
Well, Joel Sherman was right. The errors returned with Posada.
Jorgie did it
another error on the miserable catcher
“Gosh I missed that inning
what happened?
”
Lucky!
Wow, Posada, just wow.
You guys know what our record is in error games, right?
We seem to like to walk and hit the ninth place hitters this season.
Posada can’t throw for crap.
“Everybody talks about Hughes or Chamberlain getting pulled out of the rotation for Wang. However, if AJ doesn’t start pitching better, he’s the odd man out.
You can’t stay this inconsistent, as well as winless at home, and expect to stay in the rotation.”
his salary says otherwise.
AWFUL signing by cashman. 5 years of this??
There goes the errorless streak!
Great, put the easier outs on base.
“Was that Robbie swinging at pitch 1?”
Who else would it be? It still surprises me that people expect Cano not to swing at pitch one or pitch two. That’s who he is. It’s aggravating as hell and he could be that much better if were patient. But this is Cano. Good thing his sweet swing will bail him out every once in a while.
Posada is a joke behind the plate. It looks like DH is Posada’s only position.
Posada throwing has been attrocious so far, this season.
The problem with AJ is, when it goes bad, it really goes bad.
He doesn’t have enough variety of pitches to get outs if he can’t locate his fastball.
He has barely hit Jorge’s glove all night. His fastball is all over the place.
When that happens, things get ugly quick for him.
That’s always been his limitation as a pitcher.
Now, he hits the #9 hitter and turns the lineup.
I think we’ve seen enough. Get him out now before the game gets out of hand. Should be Wang time right now.
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That is why he should throw his change up more he has a really good one but he rarely throws it.
“AWFUL signing by cashman. 5 years of this??”
I think it’s a bit early to assume that he’ll be like this the entire length of his contract.
Let’s make Posada full time DH, Cervelly the full time Catcher, … and sacrifice Matsui to the gods
“another error on the miserable catcher”
Yeah, that makes two for the year. He really is miserable, I wish Cervelli were playing instead.
Kasey, I think your post on Burnett was brilliant. Yes, it is his job to adjust. And damn if he could get his stuff together for an extended period, watch out.
Absolutely agree with everything you said in that post.
Uh, I’m not writing off AJ quite yet. In any sense. Including this game. It’s only 3 runs.
If I were a Texas fan I’d be screaming, “WHY ARE YOU SWINGING AT THE FIRST STRIKE!!!!”
Hey, he got out of it.
whew… the outfielders are trucking all over out there…
They’re not going to pull AJ out of the rotation……and he hasn’t been awful at home, he just hasn’t been that good. I love the guy, but I said I was disturbed by his comment a week or so ago that the park is in his head. If that’s the case, he’s going to be useless to us. Something isn’t right – maybe the Yankees need to do more than just sending him out for pen sessions. I don’t know if it’s his mechanics or what…..or maybe the pressure of being a Yankees is getting to him. I don’t get it because AJ started so well – in his earlier starts, he really battled. Now…..it’s different.
Who else would it be? It still surprises me that people expect Cano not to swing at pitch one or pitch two. That’s who he is. It’s aggravating as hell and he could be that much better if were patient. But this is Cano. Good thing his sweet swing will bail him out every once in a while.
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Yeah, he’s really looked completely boneheaded and lost at the plate this year wildly swinging away at everything and striking out like you wouldn’t believe.
SJ44 -
Do ya think they’re going to take the guy they just spent all that money on out?
Nice catch, Melky.
Not that I disagree that it should be done – have him miss one start – but I don’t see it happening.
He gets unhinged too easily, from what I can see. He’s great as long as he’s cruising along, but as soon as he hits a bump in the road, he can’t regroup quickly. It seems.
“Yeah, that makes two for the year. He really is miserable, I wish Cervelli were playing instead.”
It would have been more except he was on the DL.
Just kidding, vin!
“I think we’ve seen enough. Get him out now before the game gets out of hand. Should be Wang time right now.”
he got the K when he needed it and got out of the inning. he gives them another two innings without giving up any more runs, he’s put up a quality start. three runs over four innings isn’t exactly enough to call for his head in my book.
i’d love to see AJ get more consistent, but the yankees knew what they were getting when they signed him and these outings we’ve seen since boston are part of the package.
SJ,
16 mil man losing his spot in the rotation? Can you really see them doing that? Maybe the better option would be to see if the Braves still want him. Assuming he cant cut it in New York.
tishbi
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Posada throwing has been attrocious so far, this season.
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Really? He was 33% before tonight, and that’s with having two pitchers that know how to keep runners anchored on first base.
I’m probably more aggravated that AJ has already killed my fantasy team’s chances of having a good night than I am that he gave up three runs. I agree that this game will not end 3-2, and I believe he will absolutely hold Texas there as long as he’s still in the game.
GO DA MELK!
Is it supposed to rain tonight? When?
burnett’s a career .500 pitcher being paid $20M… lucky him.
kasey-He doesn’t seem as if he has it today.
Can you imagine Posada catching against Boston and TB with Ellsbury and Crawford on base?
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?) June 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Gosh I missed that inning
what happened?
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>A few missed opportunities by the Yankees
>AJ had a mini-implosion
>Trisha and Nick might need to settle things under the O’Neil banner. (I hope those two kids can work things out)
>The Mets might have swine flu
>I’m eating some kick butt pizza right now. Yum!
AJ’s problems have nothing to do with Posada. His problem is, when he walks guys and pitches from behind, hitters will sit on his fastball, knowing that’s all he wants to throw, and hit him.
Kasey,
That’s true but, the Yankees weren’t planning on having 6 starting pitchers either.
If he can’t get it together and is the weak link in the rotation, Wang is the next guy in.
Wang is a better pitcher than him as it is.
Its pretty ridiculous to have Wang in the bullpen and AJ out there stinking it up as he has for most of the last 6 weeks.
The great thing about having starting pitching depth is, the weak link sits. If its AJ, that’s the way it goes.
76 pitches for AJ…..come on… Burnett. We need length.
Posada is getting old…they were running on him big time before he got hurt, they are finding out that they still can. It turns every single into a virtual double.
He also is slow…
I’d be happy with 25% from Posada, what do you expect?
I think this is what AJ is he will have his strung of bad starts and his strung of good starts.
AJ has a composure problem. He lets things derail him. Getting squeezed by the ump, plays not being made behind him. He rattles a lot easier than he should.
“He gets unhinged too easily, from what I can see. He’s great as long as he’s cruising along, but as soon as he hits a bump in the road, he can’t regroup quickly. It seems.”
Doreen – sadly agree.
I know people with swine flu…it’s not that big a deal…
The Yankees will win this game!
They must be losing, tishbi is around.
Melky on second, one out.
Good bunt Gardy.
come on jete.
Good thing the Yankees are bunting in the 4th inning.
“Can you imagine Posada catching against Boston and TB with Ellsbury and Crawford on base?
Well, the pitchers will just have to make sure that they don’t get on base.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
I know people with swine flu…it’s not that big a deal…
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I have swine flu. It kind of sucks
sj,
i agree that he’s the weak link right now, i just don’t see them yanking him. they’re paying him way too much to be a spare part. what would they do with him? put him in the ‘pen? AJ BURNETT IS A STARTING PITCHAH!!
i think when wang comes back – and i think that’ll happen sooner rather than later – it’ll be hughes who goes, fair or not. if this team is going to contend seriously this year, aj burnett is going to have to be a big part of it.
Hughes goes down at some point anyway – it’s easy to trash AJ now and I won’t do it. No way is AJ being made into a reliever – the Marlins didn’t do it and the Jays didn’t.
If Jeter walks that bunt kinda sucks.
we need runs…..NOW!
I know Erica, but it’s basically a normal flu, nothing special.
AJ needs a rattle (like a baby does).. All this talk about his mental makeup and things getting in his head is just bull. He’s a grown man, not some rookie! He’s pitching for a real team finally and he can’t handle it..Maybe he should take a page out of CC’s book and adjust.. These starts he’s been putting up are getting redundant and annoying!
It would seem the solution is to get Halliday. (j/k)
Doreen,
At some point, Wang is going back into the rotation. The guy who is pitching the worst is going to be out. So far, that’s AJ.
He’s winless at home, has a nearly 7 ERA since the Boston Debacle, and just isn’t using his other pitches enough to keep hitters honest.
It would be foolish of the Yankees to yank Joba or Hughes out of the rotation for Wang if they are outpitching AJ.
At some point, keeping your second best starting pitcher in the bullpen seems foolish to me.
Perhaps skipping AJ for a turn gets him going again.
Having him continue as a 1-1/2 pitch pitcher clearly ain’t cuttin’ it.
The Yankee won’t remove AJ from the rotation. He’s not pitching great, but he’s not pitching bad enough to be removed from the rotation. That being said, they are making a mistake by keeping Wang in the bullpen. Put him back in the rotation and send Phil to the minors. He can always come back up when needed.
Does anyone know what happened to Porcello in the Tigers Sux game? They pulled him after 4.1 innings. He wasn’t doing that bad.
AJ’s problems have nothing to do with Posada. His problem is, when he walks guys and pitches from behind, hitters will sit on his fastball, knowing that’s all he wants to throw, and hit him.
Kasey,
That’s true but, the Yankees weren’t planning on having 6 starting pitchers either.
If he can’t get it together and is the weak link in the rotation, Wang is the next guy in.
Wang is a better pitcher than him as it is.
Its pretty ridiculous to have Wang in the bullpen and AJ out there stinking it up as he has for most of the last 6 weeks.
The great thing about having starting pitching depth is, the weak link sits. If its AJ, that’s the way it goes.
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That is how it should work, but no way do they sit the newly 5yr. 82 million A.J Burnett. He would have to do what CMW did in the beginning of the year to be the odd man out of the rotation. This game will be won or loss by the offense.
Oh boy. Here we go again.
S.A. – he lost that opportunity about 40 insults ago.
Best for everyone to just leave it alone.
S.A.: I’m sure we can work things out. However, there is work to be done. I need a Partner for Peace.
As I said last night, in 2 years AJ will the the # 5 starter….I just keep thinking he’s going to go on a roll….And he will…
“SJ44 June 2nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Doreen,
At some point, Wang is going back into the rotation. The guy who is pitching the worst is going to be out. So far, that’s AJ.
He’s winless at home, has a nearly 7 ERA since the Boston Debacle, and just isn’t using his other pitches enough to keep hitters honest.
It would be foolish of the Yankees to yank Joba or Hughes out of the rotation for Wang if they are outpitching AJ.
At some point, keeping your second best starting pitcher in the bullpen seems foolish to me.
Perhaps skipping AJ for a turn gets him going again.
Having him continue as a 1-1/2 pitch pitcher clearly ain’t cuttin’ it.”
Again, his salary says otherwise. you know how the yankees work.
that was not a strike.
I think it’s pretty stupid to just give up on AJ….how about the Yankees work with him to fix what’s wrong? They wanted him and they have him – they and AJ need to figure something out. Tex was hideous for a month – did we just give up on him? SJ, I don’t recall you suggesting that Tex be benched or moved down in the order. Wang is coming back in the rotation no matter what, but Phil is going down (or to the pen, I guess), not AJ. I don’t like the idea that as soon as something is wrong with something, you trash it. AJ needs some help right now and it would be nice if he and the pitching staff would get together and try to right the ship
That’s right Tex!
Damon is the man.
That day off did Johnny D good!
JEET
this umpire is disgusting. Thank god for Juanny DAY
.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?) June 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Gosh I missed that inning
what happened?
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>A few missed opportunities by the Yankees
>AJ had a mini-implosion
>Trisha and Nick might need to settle things under the O’Neil banner. (I hope those two kids can work things out)
>The Mets might have swine flu
>I’m eating some kick butt pizza right now. Yum!
Thanks S.A.
tell me more about the pizza.
DA MELK comes home!!!
I just love the guy.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
I know Erica, but it’s basically a normal flu, nothing special.
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Except for the antibiotics I had to go on, and the inhaler I needed cause I was coughing so much I needed to clear my lungs. And the fact I am up almost all night despite the cough medicine with codiene, because I am coughing so much. And the fevers. And I cannot go out in public. I have not left my apartment since the doctor on Sunday and cannot leave again until I return to the doctor on Thursday. So I am pretty much just sitting here all alone for days with you lovely folks for human contact.
Other than all that its been peachy
everybody calm down burnett has the stuff to be one of the best pitchers in the league so lets relax because if he finds his stride then you will all look foolish. I know he’s being paid a bunch but is that his fault no he’s still human. also lets not forget randy johnson was terribly inconsistent with his location through his younger years but then he found his location and he’s going down as one of the great pitchers. That could still happen here relax
We need a big inning. We havent had one in a while. We need a 7 run type explosion.
Hey guys, he’s only given up three runs thus far.
can someone explain to me why they bunted this inning against this awful awful pitcher?
That’s the fake SJ44. I think you have all been punked.
I Have a Secret plan to end the Trisha-Nick War.
No one is saying make him a relief pitcher. I’m saying, if he doesn’t step it up, take him out of the rotation, put Wang in, and give him a break to work on things./
Its the luxury of having 6 starters.
The Yankees have benched Paul O’Neill and Tino Martinez in World Series games.
Giving AJ a breather if he can’t step it up isn’t something that’s out of line because of his salary.
“burnett’s a career .500 pitcher being paid $20M”
Why do people give AJ a raise in an effort to make a point?
alright, new ballgame.
if aj gives them six innings and three runs, he has put his team in a position to win the game.
Heads up baserunning Jeter
The offense will decide this game I say the score this is a 8-7, 10-9 type of game.
I’m sorry, not Tex, Damon.
War!
Man A-Rod make him pay
I love Teixeira!
arod needs to make padilla pay for that. needs to. send a message here, alex.
wait what happened
PLEASE! A SAC FLY. PLEASE!!!
(we don’t need to go downtown!)
DP by A-Rod…count on it.
Alex needs to ….and as I say that he swings at the first pitch.
“AJ needs some help right now and it would be nice if he and the pitching staff would get together and try to right the ship”
Betsy, AJ has been saying in the post game comments that he knows what’s wrong and how to fix it. When is that going to happen?
It’s deja vu all over again.
I’m supporting A-Rod but you just know now is not the time. The situation is TOO perfect.
Arod needs to make him pay
Twice this punk drills Tex. Alex make him pay.
Goddammit ALEX
AJ has pitched ok at home at times – being winless is often a function of how the offense behind you performs.
…That was intentional. “GET THE BALL OVER THE PLATE” I love you Tex.
SJ44 doesn’t come in during the game threads.
This will be either feast or famine.
Trisha, you clearly hate me. No problem, you’re entitled to your feelings. But I’m not sure if you’re entitled to use words like “liar” and “fraud” with no basis. People can make up their own minds about that, I suppose.
So I ask you again, if you have something you’re actually thinking of, go ahead and say it. I don’t ask you to apologize for calling me an “AH”, a snake, Satan, or the other things of that ilk. But “liar” and “fraud” I take exception to.
hateraid
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
can someone explain to me why they bunted this inning against this awful awful pitcher?
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Cause GGBG is fast and can beat out a bunt most of the time
I gotta say, that was strike 3
I am a little surprised the ump didn’t issue warnings. I guess he is allowing AJ to return the favor.
Alex is probably pressing here.
Yeah Teix!
GJ TEX!!!
Uncle E: It’s from this small pizzeria near me. Fantastic pizza. I got pizza with some shrooms today. So good.
Let’s get back the lead here
Did I mention how much I love Teixeira??
good job tex
nice save there Tex. He’s freakin pisssssssed!!!
“SJ44 doesn’t come in during the game threads.”
the fake one does Laura!
Great play by Tex.
Good try Alex.
But Tex gets his revenge in spite of you.
That’s not the fake SJ44. If it is, he makes sense just like the real SJ44.
What a great takeout slide by Teixeira.
Now that’s nice.
Arod is not clutch…………
Yeah, Tex. Run him down!
Knew it. A-Rod got lucky, but same old crap…
A three run homer will do.
A-Rod is not having a goodnight at all, that run was thanks to tex.
gonna say I’d rather pitch to Alex now than Tex.
is it possible tex was hit on purpose in lieu of a IBB????
Jeter. enough said.
I said, that was not A-Rod’s time.
He’ll get his chance.
Now that’s nice.
Todd
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Arod is not clutch…………
Here we go.
Time for the
……..DEATH BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
that’s not a fake SJ. what he’s saying is well-reasoned and makes perfect sense, it’s just not the most likely scenario.
how great were the tex and cc signings? seriously. franchise-changing signings.
O’Neil is dying to hit someone
Melancon — You’re a joke
“SJ44 doesn’t come in during the game threads.”
“the fake one does Laura!”
Good point!
President Nixon: I hope your secret plan doesn’t involving mining the San Francisco Bay or a Christmas bombing. I don’t think we can wait that long.
You guys do know that despite making an out twice today even though A-Rod bats almost 350 he gets out 6.5 out of 10 times?
Padilla is the ugliest man in Baseball.
He looks like something Matt Groening created.
……..DEATH BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
when someone wants to kill you, not for who you are, but for different reasons altogether?
Nice RBI by Cano.
Wow, just attrocious A-rod. Tex saved him with that slide. He would’ve left 8 runners on base in 3 AB’s.
Sweet swing, Cano.
Laura, he was talking about his mechanics. Look, I don’t know – all I know is that giving up on a guy you just signed to a long-term deal is not a wise decision. It behooves AJ and the Yankees to work together to get him back on the beam. He’s no different than any hitter in a slump – or any pitcher, but he’s being held to a different standard. Think he is the only pitcher in baseball going through some struggles? I don’t think so…….so why is this guy being thrown under the bus? We can have patience for Hughes, but not for AJ?
Robbie
I hope that someone throws something at him as he walks off the field. Frakin’ loser!
Kiss and make up is definitely out.
I’m not even gonna suggest couples therapy.
Please Jorge… a little hit…please…
ZMAN7777-You do realize that he will make out 6.5 out of 10 times despite batting nearly 350 w/the bases loaded?
Okay, now Burnett will come in and hold them right here. We’ll end up saying he did his job and all, but we really obviously need to see more from him earlier in games. 3 runs in a game isn’t a sin. But when you have Burnett’s stuff, you probably shouldn’t be allowing 3 runs early in games.
Well okay, Texas does have a good offense. So does that invalidate everything I just said, at least about tonight’s game?
Whatta ya know?? Robbie Cano!!
nice job Robbie
Nice to see Tex going in with a hard takeout slide. That is a hitter’s dream scenario whenever he gets hit by a pitch. Take it out on the middle infielders and cause problems on the base paths.
Nice hitting Robbie. Nice.
Uncle: I think he hit him on purpose twice. Bum. I knew he wouldn’t see the 5th inning.
Finally Robi!!
LOL Todd
Tex’s hard-nosed play directly led to 2 runs. No doubt he has been the team MVP ever since Arod came back.
nice play by tex but give alex credit he ran hard just having a rough night
DE-REK JE-TER
Clap Clap clapclapclap
alright, burnett’s got a cushion now. two more clean innings (three if he’s economical?) and get the ball to mo somehow. is it realistic? who knows. but it would sure be nice.
Arod’s in a mini slump.
First time I’m rooting for Maglio Ordonez…
“that’s not a fake SJ.”
Kasey – but it is. a good imitator, but still a fake.
there is a couple of ways to tell them apart, but I’m not giving fake SJ the clues.
No matter where I look I can’t find the stats for how many tying or winning HR’s A-Rod has in the 9th or later. Darn.
“We can have patience for Hughes, but not for AJ?”
Betsy, that’s not a good comparison. Hughes is a kid. AJ has been in the big leagues for quite a while now. He should know how to weather the storms. I’m not advocating throwing him under the bus or in the garbage bin. Like I’ve said many times before, I’m just getting tired of his disappointing starts.
DT: I would accept couples therapy. Pete Abe can moderate.
Texas has a good offense? Trish, Josh Hamilton was just put on the DL today.. This should be more of an easier task for Burnett.. This next inning will tell me who AJ is.
posada owes us one here
this umpire is disgusting. Thank god for Juanny DAY
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I think the Ump didnt call strike 3 on arod a ball and gave him a chance to put the ball in play.
Nick? Fellas, im opposite of Nick. You can call me a liar, cheat, an afraud but dont call me an AHOLE, and any 4 letter wash your mouth with soap words.
Burnett is going no more than 6 innings. He’s up to 76 pitches with 44 to play with. In order to go longer he needs at least 2-3 ten pitch innings. Not happening. Not tonight.
“So does that invalidate everything I just said, at least about tonight’s game?”
No Trisha, it doesn’t. What’s alarming about his self-admitted lack of focus is that he’s veteran pitcher. He’s 32.
You’d expect it from a rookie. He’s got the stuff. But you can’t allow five straight baserunners when you’re O-2 on a hitter with 2 outs.
Hopefully, he’s settled down.
I still can’t believe the Yanks lost the error-less streak because of that Posada play.. Somehow I just didn’t think it would end that way.. Posada you owe the Yanks one back!
redeemed
Hip Hip
Posada
Good job Posada.
the whole fake poster thing baffles me. what does one gain from that?
Like they say, hit em where they ain’t
Posada!
hmmmm wheres the posada hate now? Thanks Jorge! And congrats to the captain on 1500!
Yay!
Matsui!!!!!!
DEATH BLOW
I’m looking forward to 4 more innings out of their bullpen, two. Burn ‘em out and run it up.
Godzilla!!!
Well, that one wasn’t cheap! Godzilla strikes!
Death Blow!!!, Uncle!
HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA OMG LOVING THIS!
GODZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
*GOJIRA*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A thrilla’ from Godzilla!
That’s why I never speak ill of the weak knee’d GODZILLA!!!
Matsui!!!!
that’s how you respond hell yeah
woo hoo!!!
betcha AJ gets tossed next inning!
That was a fake SJ? He sounded real to me -he’s been popping up from time to time here lately.
Laura, I’m disappointed in AJ, too…and I don’t mean to imply that he can’t be criticized. I just think removing him from the rotation is ridiculous and unwarranted. If a hitter is in a slump, the hitting coach will work with him. There’s no reason why AJ and Eiland can’t spend some extra time together………
Thats for hitting TEX.
All I have to say about this game is that the box score should read –
W: Teixeira (1-0)
Vicente Padilla is getting royally pwned for hitting Marky Mark. Do not ever EFF with this yankees team or you will pay dearly. Now we just have to absolutely put a fast ball in the ear hole of Ian Kinsler and were all set.
Please don’t be fooled into thinking that Padilla didn’t hit Tex on purpose – both times. He most certainly did. He has a reputation for hitting batters regardless of what the effect has on his team. A couple of years ago, he caused a feud between TEX and another team (can’t remember which one). They had bench clearing brawls every time they played because of him. Why TEX still has him on their roster is a mystery to me.
Way to go, Hideki!!
Godzilla delivers the big blow.
Tony Pena yelling at the Rangers!
This game isn’t over guys, not with our pen and Burnett less than lights out.
inb4bandbox
*too* is of course what I meant.
THis is the best team i’ve seen in 6 years.
Well done lads.
That’s what good teams do, they pick up the guys who are down.
Tex is lovin’ it. Dinner on Tex for Matsui tonight =)
burnett now has a six-run cushion and he has had a WHILE to sit and think about his outing.
i propose: short leash. if he gets it together and cruises, great. but if he goes out and walks the lead-off man after this outburst, it’s time for aceves. send a message, one way or the other here.
Tex is my favorite Yank and we have him for 8 years!!!!!!!Boy,did the Sox miss out!!!!
john sterling said a A-bomb .. den he goes if a rod hit denn…… big mistake
Sterling called it an A-Bomb?
Nick-over/under A.J. hits a Ranger?
Well, that was nice!
Gotta love Teixeira. “That’s what I’m talking about!”
Thats what I’m talking about. A 7 run explosion.
It looks like Padilla woke the sleeping dog
Wanna watch how to give away a game. Check out the Tigers Red Sox game.
Runners on first and second for the Tigers. Dice-K, threw 19 pitches to put the first two runners on. Leyland elects to have some guy named Clete Thompson swing away instead of bunt the runners on.
Of course, he strikes out and Dice-K escapes unscathed. Good grief.
OK. Burnett has a second life. Now, he needs to come back with two shutdown innings.
DON’T HIT OUR PLAYERS!!!!
Anyone gonna watch the special on NBC on the WhiteHouse? Or Earth2100?
“the whole fake poster thing baffles me. what does one gain from that?”
attention.
SJ is respected here. The faker obviously lacks that in their real life and comes here for it.
Nick – Having Pete do couples therapy is like having Elvis Costello judge a Presley look a like contest.
I think Padilla was the knife throwing goon guy in Desperado
A.J 2 more innings would be nice
Paulie is just dying for AJ to plunk someone……..Funny!
uh…no
AJ or CC will issue payback. Texas hitters better be ready to dive.
AJ =)
take that!
Think 6 runs is enough for this guy?
Okay I guess AJ did it. He didn’t hit him, but he moved him.
Dice-K is notorious for his effective wildness. Hope the Tigers can get to the Sox BP.
Good job Burnett.
I love AJ
Dang, missed him
Tom: that’s not really an o/u kind of proposition, more of a straight wager.
And now, before I can even set odds (I was going to say -175), AJ goes up and in and there’s a warning. So that skews everything.
niiiiiice
bring veras to hit somebody
I start packing up: Yankees down 3-2
I leave the office: Melky’s at bat
I get to the car: Melky has walked
I pick up dinner and get back to the hote: Yankees up 9-3
Good freaking times
tishbi-Not necessarily. Wasn’t enough vs. the Sox.
Benny Blanco –
LOL. I thought Padilla looked quite scary too.
There’s a feeling I get about this team that I haven’t felt in many years — at least since the final days of Paulie, Tino, Bernie, Scott Brosius, etc.
The best part is that it’s barely June and this team will only get tighter.
Ah a Mc Carron just calle dit the Don Drysdale treatment
why waste 4 pitches on a IBB when I can plunk you with one?
Laura, I think I read on another board that that was Oakland……and Swish was involved, lol
AJ certainly know how to back his teammates I like that about him he’s got that you hit one of my guys I’m going to give you something to think about
Your right, Nick.
Not much of a betting man.
love the warning and the K in the same at-bat. love it.
Erica – newly OPPC
Cause GGBG is fast and can beat out a bunt most of the time
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just fyi to everyone who thinks that bunt wasnt the stupidest move on earth against padilla. the GGBG has bunted 8 times this year and has 1 base hit. I could do better then that.
I love that we actually have pitchers that will protect our hitters!
Sometimes this team is just weird.
I really love that Tex has a temper, I thought he was more of an even keeled type player but that’s 2x now that he’s gotten angry at opposing players and both times he’s made them pay dearly. That’s a great quality in a ball player.
hateraid-It’s a smart concept troll. Best case is a hit. Worse case, the runner moves over.
Thats how you complete the dust off, you strike him out.
clean inning for AJ and he’s got about 20 pitches left to play with.
not a great outing by any stretch as his control isn’t there, but it’s getting closer to a quality start.
and it was really, really nice to see them explode like that after tex got riled up. you gotta like this team.
luis
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
bring veras to hit somebody
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Luis — I think you found the PERFECT reason to bring Veras into a game. I certainly can’t think of any others, but had nothing before your post. Nice.
Good inning AJ
Good inning, by the way guys Dice-K is doing his normal walk a billion guys and escape with no runs, how the hell does he do it!!!!!!!!!
AJ is the man. Last year none of our starting pitchers would have done that
“bring veras to hit somebody ”
Great idea. Have Veras hit somebody important. Kinsler, perhaps. That will start a bench clearing brawl, Veras will get hurt and need to go on the DL, making him unavailable in the Yankees bullpen. Talk about killing two birds with one stone.
love the warning and the K in the same at-bat. love it.
ditto
hateraid
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
just fyi to everyone who thinks that bunt wasnt the stupidest move on earth against padilla. the GGBG has bunted 8 times this year and has 1 base hit. I could do better then that.
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Can you let me know when you will be trying? I’d like to be there. Just try to wait until after I am out of quarantine. I really don’t want to miss it
I wonder how many times Veras would miss before he would actually hit someone.
Right now we’re a great team.
We only get a bullpen, we’re a championship team.
jennifer
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I love that we actually have pitchers that will protect our hitters!
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Yanks have 4 of their 6 starters that have no problems pitching inside
Well, he didn’t bunt.
“Laura, I think I read on another board that that was Oakland……and Swish was involved, lol”
Could be. I thought it was a team from the West.
“just fyi to everyone who thinks that bunt wasnt the stupidest move on earth against padilla. the GGBG has bunted 8 times this year and has 1 base hit. I could do better then that”
wow…im sure you could
How many pitches is AJ at?
Gardy showing off his warning track power.
Kudos to the ump for not warning the teams after Padilla’s second plunking of Teixeira.
It’s good that Burnett had the opportunity to answer make his own statement.
You don’t want World War 3 to get started or anything, but there isn’t anything wrong with giving the other pitcher his chance to harmlessly retaliate.
It also earns some respect from the other guys, knowing that A.J. has their backs.
Because DiceK bears down when he gets into jams. Something AJ needs to do.. Stay focused. I’ve seen alot of Sox games with DiceK and the NESN announcers are baffled that DiceK doesn’t just show that in every at bat. He just seems to like getting into trouble I guess.
I’d love to see these idiots just try to touch the ball with the bat.
G
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
john sterling said a A-bomb .. den he goes if a rod hit denn…… big mistake
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Big mistake? I’d say. It’s not like a Japanese player might find that offensive or anything. Nice one, Sterling.
Did AJ throw at someone’s head?
I can’t remember the last time Jeter was this hot, baseball wise that is. He’s always been hot in the looks department.
these idiots=that idiot.
Jetes is a hitting machine
AJ is at 88 pitches Betsy
GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
jennifer
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I love that we actually have pitchers that will protect our hitters!
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Yanks have 4 of their 6 starters that have no problems pitching inside
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yep
CC
AJ
JOBA
Hughes
LOVE IT>
Betsy up and in.
DT: I think that’s a highly imperfect analogy. But I think you meant well.
S.o.S. “AH”, although a violation of the TOS of this website, is still just someone’s opinion. “Liar” and “fraud” are something different. If Trisha calls me an “AH” or a snake or even Satan, people can read that for what it is.
But if someone reads “liar” they might wonder if there was something I had been dishonest about. Am I not a Yankee fan? Not from New York? Do I not like the Magnetic Fields or Yo La Tengo or Elvis Costello? Do I say that I’m posting from Larkspur when I’m really in Corte Madera? People might wonder.
Do you see the difference?
“DEATH BLOW”
Is there a hotter hitter in the game right now than Jeter?? I mean he went from .295 to .321 in a few games.
you know all things considered AJ isn’t having a horrible stat he’s through five and he doesn’t have good stuff tonight it’s like one of those Andy P games where he grinds out innings and he’s only given 3 runs so far that’s not terrible. the last few years if our starter didnt have good stuff they were lucky to get through 3 innings
Jeter’s been on base 8 of his last 9 plate appearances.
Erica – newly OPPC
Can you let me know when you will be trying? I’d like to be there. Just try to wait until after I am out of quarantine. I really don’t want to miss it
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you wanna put money on it and give me a team to bunt against ill do it any time/place you want.
also to the guy who thinks is a smart idea. When the 3rd basemen is playing back or maybe the entire infield doesn’t know its coming, yes a bunt can be a smart idea. However bret is the worst baseball player on the yankees and has no idea how to use the limited tools he has.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
these idiots=that idiot.
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. I can assure you, you were not the idiot in the above
I knew what you meant
AJ at 88-57
if he is economical, he can get through 7
Jeter is such a terrific hitter, he’s had a lot of hot streaks.
However, I don’t think he’s ever been any more on fire than he is now.
hateraid-Right…coming from a baseball prodigy…
I would not bring in Veras to hit someone.
Angel Borroa.
rconn, don’t even bother watching because it just got worse. I don’t sense a rally coming either – would love to be wrong. I bet on the wrong horse (Porcello) and Matsuzaka is having one of his “living on the edge” nights and getting away with it.
Oh well. We’re in first and certainly cruising right now!
Thankfully AJ stood up for Tex tonight.
You don’t want Andy trying to plunk someone tomorrow.
It would be like that time the Met pitcher tried to hit Clemens. (can’t remember his name)
Thanks, SA and Jen – AJ is an intimidator, but I don’t believe he would ever throw at anyone’s head. You love to see what he did if you’re his teammates- how often have the Yanks been used as target practice?
hateraid
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Erica – newly OPPC
Can you let me know when you will be trying? I’d like to be there. Just try to wait until after I am out of quarantine. I really don’t want to miss it
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you wanna put money on it and give me a team to bunt against ill do it any time/place you want.
also to the guy who thinks is a smart idea. When the 3rd basemen is playing back or maybe the entire infield doesn’t know its coming, yes a bunt can be a smart idea. However bret is the worst baseball player on the yankees and has no idea how to use the limited tools he has.
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1) How about we just see if you can run 90 feet in 3.2 like GGBG can. I am a gambling girl and I would definitely wager that you can’t
2) it’s BRETT with 2 T’s. If you are going to insult someone, spell their name right
3) No, that title belongs to Angel Berroa
Honesty is the manifestation of character.
1 pitch, 1 out. Nice.
AJ Burnett 2006-2008
Pre All-Star 4.64
Post All-Star 3.28
And bear in mind, those numbers came when he played in a domed home park.
Yankees knew exactly what they were getting, and he’s performing to form/reasonable expectations
C’mon folks, these stats aren’t that hard to look up yourselves.
Burnett works six and gives up 3.
Good job.
Not to change the subject but I am hungry
at 95 pitches, AJ has a chance to go 7 IP, 3 ER. that’s not a bad start by anyone’s standards.
good inning for burnett
7 pitches
Easy peasy inning for AJ. He’s at 95 pitches
Stuckey-At least he’ll improve post all star.
Stuckey
This is a Yankee board man. They want results now.
God bless this Yankee offense is all I can say! AJ now has a cushion and hopefully can keep going so that we can save the pen and their arms. (Don’t know his pitch count right now but I know he has thrown into the low 100s so that’s not a problem for him.)
AJ is going in to the 7th inning now giving up only 3 runs and he didn’t have his good stuff today. Where are those people who were hating on him, he’s gutting this one out give him credit
“And bear in mind, those numbers came when he played in a *domed home park*.”
if you listen to some, AJ now pitches in a doomed home park.
yep
CC
AJ
JOBA
Hughes
LOVE IT>
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I wouldnt know if Hughes would get a warning being that noone would be able to tell if its on purpose or not.
Nick,
Are you being truthfull to me right now? Just messing bro. My trigger word is stupid. Even though i miss spell every other word. You can call me dumb but not stupid. I get that and i wish you would have made the over/under before this all started. I would have won.
Let Swish pitch & plunk someone………….
I love our ballpark. Always have.
Nice AJ
Madrigal: The Man With a Face Like a Pug
Actually if you’re gonna insult someone I find it BETTER to misspell their name hence the reason I’m doing it(also i refuse to capitalize it as you’re supposed to with a proper noun but fine only notice 1/2 my insult). And no i cant make it to 1st base in 3.2 I’m a righty i make it there in 3.8(and not even gardener makes it there that fast) and it isn’t speed that gets you safe on a bunt most of the time… i forgot about Berroa, I’ll give you that.
DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood)
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
“And bear in mind, those numbers came when he played in a domed home park.”
if you listen to some, AJ now pitches in a doomed home park.
DT = en fuego
Why is trisha not responding to Nick in SF?
Come on Alex extend your hitting streak.
Ouch the guy was bleeding he is going to have a bruise on that noggin.
trisha
aj’s at 95 pitches and girardi has left him in for 110+ several times this season.
hateraid-I could fly. I actually have wings.
Yeah, I don’t believe you. And if it’s true, I don’t care since you have no right to talk since you’re not in the majors, are you? If you’re really better than Gardner he’s better than you right now.
I would not bring in Veras to hit someone.
Angel Borroa.
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How can we have Veras hit Borroa and put both out?
Nice bounce back from AJ – he can get through 7. He really does seem to have these one bad innings – it’s a hump that he needs to get over. If he does, he’ll start really heating up
hey, folks, no need to instigate anymore. She’s said what she said, she can explain it if there was any substance to the charges.
S.o.S.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
yep
CC
AJ
JOBA
Hughes
LOVE IT>
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I wouldnt know if Hughes would get a warning being that noone would be able to tell if its on purpose or not.
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The fact that Hughes will pitch inside is all it really takes. They know it could be coming, and, they’re waiting for the big bang.
woooooooooo smash Texas
I wasn’t looking…did A-Rod walk or single?
Ken Singletons wife has her own blog.
http://mrssingy.mlblogs.com/
Thanks kase.
Kay is such an idiot. Wonder if sending the runner will tick Texas off. Who cares!!
Nick in SF-All right. I seriously am surprised she’s not responding. Unlike her.
Smash em
This game just became a laugher
upper decker!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ouch.
Jorge.
Oh Yeah-Kool Aid Man
Posada!!!!
12-3 Yanks
Alright, I feel bad for hating on Posada after he made that error.
geeze guys some some runs for the sox and mets next week
This is what happens when you wake the sleeping giant!
I think Jorge has more than attoned for his poor throws to second!
woohooo…. Posada didn’t stop between 2nd and 3rd that time.
awwwwwwwwwwwwww missed it by that much!
and Santana loses 3-1 to Pittsburgh…
nick
what part of sf do you live in? i love that city.
Heresy I know, but I feel really bad for Madrigal. I never like seeing relievers get that beat up unless they pitch for Boston.
um – wow…
Melancon: if there was anything behind it, there would be a response. Read between the lines.
This lineup..is too much.
“and Santana loses 3-1 to Pittsburgh…”
Wow
Nick in SF-I guess you’re right.
Subject change: Our lineup is unbelievable.
I miss Nady.
Rishi
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
and Santana loses 3-1 to Pittsburgh…
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I am a little sad i can’t go to work and abuse the Mets fans tomorrow
kasey: I live in Glen Park. I moved here from the Upper Haight/Ashbury Heights area in March. I feel like I’m in exile, but it’s a nice little area.
I been up 24 hours…Ima have to stay up and hear the melt down on wfan.
Melky back on
Interesting , but the last loss by a Yankee starter was against Philly on May 22nd, 7-3 by Burnett. The Yankees won 6 of the next nine, with all three losses by our bullpen-Tomko, Aceves, Coke.
I guess we’ll see Veras tonight.
The Mutts are just like the Jays…idiots. You cannot lose games pitched by your money pitcher. That is a baseball sin. Those games are almost guaranteed wins. You can’t let those get away.
Amazing. The 3 guys that were being blasted here today end up having a decent game.
Burnett
Posada
Arod(not so much)
Erica, how are you feeling?
Santana: boooooooooo.
CC + Hughes >>>>>>>>>>>> Santana
Will AJ come out for the 7th with this long delay?
Our bullpen is still our big problem.
Not Burnett. Not left field. Not the bench.
I like my namesake bullpen. But I do think we need to trade for somebody, I’m sure Cashman will find out who.
Laura – Stay in 1st place together, strike out alone!
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
The Mutts are just like the Jays…idiots. You cannot lose games pitched by your money pitcher. That is a baseball sin. Those games are almost guaranteed wins. You can’t let those get away.
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Exactly Laura. Yet the Mutts continuously give him poor run support and have shoddy defense behind him. It torments my Mets fan friends so much I can’t help but enjoy it.
Erica – you can always try abusing by email
what’s glenn park near?
any city that contains both amoeba and city lights, as well as a stellar moma and my 2nd favorite whole foods in the country (behind austin) puts itself in the running for best city in the country. plus sf has always been a decent market for my band.
Roy Halladay, complete game. 133 pitches.
Gave up 4 runs, but still, wow.
“You cannot lose games pitched by your money pitcher.”
Cut them a little slack. They’ve got a possible swine flu scare in the clubhouse happening.
Ok same some runs for tomorrow
Will AJ come out for the 7th with this long delay? –
good point Betsy. I think we’ll see Veras or Tomko.
Hold on to your hat!
trisha – OPPC member
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Erica, how are you feeling?
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Thanks so much for asking. I am actually feeling a little more human today. Unfortunately, my appettite seems to be making a comeback. But I am happy the coughing has gone down. I must be getting better though cause I had a mini anxiety attack today when I realized how much laundry I am going to have to do when I stop being a walking germ.
Jeter’s BA has climbed almost as fast as Teixeira’s. He was hitting around .270 before he and the Yankees went on a tear.
Halladay takes care of his own business. I guess Santana doesn’t get the same opportunity in the NL, but still.
AJ has done a great job shaking off that bad inning. He deserves some credit for that.
Rishi
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Erica – you can always try abusing by email
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Very wise. If I get bored with daytime TV tomorrow, I will do that.
Melancon 7th,
Absolutely. Cannot survive the entire year with this pen. We’re winning a lot of blowout games lately but once the offense cools off and we play a lot of close games in a row, then we’ll be really exposed.
Cashman must address it.
man. how long can they keep playing this well? it’s really something to watch.
Can we finally say now that teams dont want to face us? Could we be back to opposing teams fearing the Yanks?
THE YANKS ARE COMING!!
I cringe thinking about how we’re going to navigate close games in Fenway next week with this pen
I’m at the game it’s so much fun. Posada and matsui launched those homers. The stadium is pretty full for a Tuesday night.
“Exactly Laura. Yet the Mutts continuously give him poor run support and have shoddy defense behind him. It torments my Mets fan friends so much I can’t help but enjoy it.”
No one wishes that the Yankees had traded for Santana more than Santana does. He’d have a hell of a lot more wins by now.
I think Burnett pitches the 7th. Save a pitcher for the next couple of games.
Against Boston we may still lose because Boston will wait out our starter and get to our awful pen.
I would let AJ come out….
We’re going to cool off at some point. Boston did after their 11 game win streak and subsequent sweeping of us at the stadium… we were what 6 games behind them at one point? Now we’re 1 ahead.
I just hope the cold stretch doesn’t come this week when we play Tampa-Red Sox- Mets.
Halladay had no choice but to throw 133 pitches. The last time he left with a lead, the Jays lost the game.
I’m glad we didn’t make the trade. I like Hughes.
If the Yanks win by 10 it’s free fries and gravy for everyone. Save your ticket stubs.
UPDATE, 9:16 p.m.: It was pretty weird just now to look down and see Andruw Jones wearing a catchers mitt and warming up reliever Warner Madrigal between innings while Saltalamacchia got ready. Three years ago Jones was a potential Hall of Famer and the best defensive outfielder in baseball, and some believed among the best ever. Now he’s a spot starter in the outfield and is warming up a pitcher I’m sure he doesn’t know by name. How quickly baseball can change.
“man. how long can they keep playing this well? it’s really something to watch.”
Forever and ever and ever and ever and ever, with the inevitable loss coming in every so often!
Laura – Stay in 1st place together, strike out alone!
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
No one wishes that the Yankees had traded for Santana more than Santana does. He’d have a hell of a lot more wins by now.
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Thats what bothers me about him. He makes those snide comments to the media about his teammates not hitting or making certain plays behind him. I don’t blame him for being aggrivated, but they don’t ever say anything negative about his pitching when he makes a bad pitch. I think the Mets are a shining example of bad team chemistry. Baseball is a team sport and sometimes you either need to pick your teammate up or just shut up.
I’m glad we didn’t make the trade. I like Hughes.
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Me 2
kasey: is this a perjury trap???
Glen Park is in a little valley on one side of Twin Peaks. The closest neighborhoods are Noe Valley to the north and the Mission District to the east. The City College/Ingleside are to the south, both those aren’t really touristy areas.
I was just in Amoeba this afternoon. Besides being an amazing record store, they’ve also had a lot of great free live shows over the years. I’ve seen Sleater-Kinney, the Magnetic Fields, Sonic Youth, and Elliot Smith there, among others.
Burnett is showing a lot of guts coming back after that bad 3rd inning
“I’m glad we didn’t make the trade. I like Hughes.”
I like Hughes too, but I can’t help but sigh at the thought of both CC and Santana in the same rotation.
I’m still afraid of the Rays. I really don’t think we’ve heard the last of them
Really, they had one bad week. Other than that, they have played fairly well. But one bad week can really hurt you in this division.
They still have an explosive offense and good young pitching with Price-Garza-Shields.
AJ made me look like a fool… I didnt think we would make it to the 7th..
Benny Blanco
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Burnett is going no more than 6 innings. He’s up to 76 pitches with 44 to play with. In order to go longer he needs at least 2-3 ten pitch innings. Not happening. Not tonight.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I’m glad we didn’t make the trade. I like Hughes.
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Hahaha. I won’t even mention how much crying there was for Melky when he was missing over the weekend
It was one or the other. CC wasn’t coming to NY if Santana came over.
“Thats what bothers me about him. He makes those snide comments to the media about his teammates not hitting or making certain plays behind him. I don’t blame him for being aggrivated, but they don’t ever say anything negative about his pitching when he makes a bad pitch.”
That’s probably because he very rarely has a bad start and they very consistently play poorly behind him. I don’t think it’s right for him to throw his team under the bus, but I understand how he feels.
Great start AJ
btw – the error in the game is on Santana
UPDATE, 9:16 p.m. – good point Kevin D.
you are doing a fine job. Lower Pete’s press box chair an inch or two and see if he notices.
why is he squeezing him
AJ ended up having a very decent outing. One bad inning. Still, he can’t lose focus when he disappoints himself.
the amoeba in-stores are great.
have you ever been to the hardly strictly bluegrass festival? i say i’m going every year but then something comes up. this year it’s the same time as austin city limits and i’m dying to see pearl jam and kings of leon.
last time i was in sf i had to leave the day before an emory douglas exhibit opened. i was furious to miss it.
Great job by AJ – he deserves a lot of credit for putting his foot down on the necks of the Rangers and not letting them breathe
All in all a quality start. Not great, but at least he didn’t walk any more batters after given the lead.
Hahaha. I won’t even mention how much crying there was for Melky when he was missing over the weekend
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LOL
That reminds me. No visits recently from brettisgod or melkyisod. Now those were two people who should have met under the O’Neil banner.
OMG!! Porcello lasted only 4.1 innings and has a 3.7 earned run avg.. That can only mean one thing. Pack your stuff, your going to be the 8th inning man. Right?
that was a great recovery from one bad inning by Burnett. Hats off for a good job when most had him gone before the end of the 5th inning.
melkyisod=melkyisgod
Erica – newly OPPC ,
I agree…Throwing teammates under the bus to the media would be hell for the Yankees.
Can’t remember the last time I drank a soda.
“It was one or the other. CC wasn’t coming to NY if Santana came over.”
In theory. But we don’t know what the Yankees would have done if faced with that decision. They may have gotten greedy and decided to drive the Brink’s truck up to both of their houses. Of course, our payroll would have been $250mil.
Good outing by AJ. He can have some pie
Longoria left tonight’s game with a hamstring.
Seven Simple Rules for Escaping Class AAA
By Tyler Kepner
In the clubhouse of the Class-AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees, there are seven rules posted on the bulletin board. While waiting around for interviews the other day, I jotted down the list. Under the heading “Yankee Play Hard Index,” these are the seven guiding principles of the up-and-coming Yankees:
1) On and off the field in a business-like manner
2) Run 90 feet hard every time
3) Turn bases hard -– think advance base, pressure the defense
4) Dive for the great play (some situations dictate no diving)
5) Outfielders should back up all plays. The ball should move all defensive players. Don’t be a spectator.
6) Pitchers execute back-up plays without fail.
7) Go in hard to break up double plays.
Follow these rules, and travel 128 miles, and you’ll make it to the Bronx.
“btw – the error in the game is on Santana”
He figured that since the team made errors behind him, he might as well get in on the party. LOL!
The belt will either got to Jeter or Burnett…?
Amoeba might be the greatest music store in the country.
Kasey- your music sounds great. Drummer here.
Kay sounds shocked to learn that Benson sucks. LOL!
Melancon: Boston is free to wait out our starter, but Texas could have tried that too. If we put up a bunch of runs, they can wait as long as they like. I know Boston has better pitchers than Padilla, but that doesn’t mean we can’t rough them up now that we have most of our team back. This isn’t the same squad they’ve seen.
tex out of the game? is he hurt?
Here comes the subs. My guess Berroa will be making an appearance.
wow arod all up on melky over there
Carl
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Erica – newly OPPC ,
I agree…Throwing teammates under the bus to the media would be hell for the Yankees.
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Haha. Forget one Yankee throwing another under the bus. If one Yankee accidentally forgets to shake hands with another after a home run, the national media gets involved.
Tex’s hitting streak comes to an end.
3 runs in 7 innings, 8 K’s and 1 walk, against a very good offensive team is actually closer to very good than not bad.
Erica – newly OPPC,
True lol
Girardi seems confident that we can hold a 9 run lead. I guess Veras isn’t pitching tonight.
Yay! The Nats just took the lead over SF. (my own little season-long novena because it just kills me to see a team lose so many games.) GO NATS!!!
ICB – thank you. there’s other stuff at http://www.red-river-records.com and my myspace page and so on. appreciate your listening.
7 IP and 3 ER against texas? i’ll take that every time from burnett.
I am a little late to the party- are you guys talking about Amoeba Music in LA?
Burnett
7inn..8H 3r 3er, 1bb 8SO…sounds good to me.
“melkyisod” Please don’t bury Melky!
kasey: I went to the HSBF last year, just for one day. I saw Elvis Costello, Earl Scruggs (or Ricky Skaggs, I forget) and Emmylou Harris.
Posada 3 for 4, 4 runs batted in, but did break the errorless streak. Belt tonight??
Bastardo vs Peavy later.
That’s some name-Bastardo.
AJ is what he is… a good middle of the rotation starter. He’ll have good days and bad days. 6 IP, 3 ER/7 IP, 4 ER… that’s what you should expect.
The problem arises when people get their hopes up and think he will pitch up to his stuff and become some kind of ace. He is 32 and a 2-pitch pitcher with mediocre control. That isin’t happening. He’ll have his moments, but he’ll be mediocre most of the time.
I was shocked when people were ripping him. He is a #3 starter. What did you expect? 8 shutout innings?
Yankee Trader
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Posada 3 for 4, 4 runs batted in, but did break the errorless streak. Belt tonight??
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He would be my guess. I am not sure the players cared about the errorless streak as much as the fans do. And I just want them to stick it to Boston
Erica: talking about the Amoeba in San Francisco. I’ve only been to the one in Hollywood once. Pretty awesome, though.
No way tomorrow’s game gets played… 60% chance Rain/Thunderstorms throughout the day and night
Expect a DH on Thursday… or when the Rangers come back to the stadium in August for a series.
Nick in SF
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Erica: talking about the Amoeba in San Francisco. I’ve only been to the one in Hollywood once. Pretty awesome, though.
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I went there once during a family vacation in 2002. We were just driving around Hollywood and we went in there cause it was the coolest looking store we saw there. I was very impressed with it.
I’d say AJ pitched pretty well. His only BB was in the third along with 4 of the 8 hits and the only homerun. If our starters give us 7 innings every night with 2-3 runs, we’ll be in good shape.
However, Cashman, find us a consistent 8th inning pitcher.
Yeah, Burnett is extremely overpaid, but for a #3 starter, he hasn’t been terrible.
If you followed his career, this is exactly what to expect. As a #3, that is fine.
Yay! The Nats just took the lead over SF. (my own little season-long novena because it just kills me to see a team lose so many games.) GO NATS!!!
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Enough!! You and Nick need to make up already!! Youv gone too far now hoping Giants lose as if there affiliated with Nick or something.
Does this mean Burnett gets to keep his job for another week?
Before Girardi took charge, Wang had pitched for yankees with consecutive 19 wins. It’s pathetic Joe treated him disrespectfully because of just three games he screwed up; I would tell Wang that being Pavano is a lot smarter than being a diligent guy that he always is.
Never been to Amoeba. They still sell Vinyl there?
I think my favorite record store was Tower Records in downtown Toronto. RIP.
KASEY- i’ll have to come check out your next Living room gig. Love that room. best sound in the city for a room of that size.
Boston’s bullpen
Delcarman 1.17
Oki 2.31
Ramirez 1.35
Pretty good.
smallpuppy,
Yeah and Wang started 8-2 under Girardi (5-0 to start the year) beating the likes of Halladay, Sabathia, Shields, Bedard, Oswalt head-to-head, on pace for another 19 win season before getting hurt.
Why isnt Corvelli not pinch hitting for Posada? He just came off the dl with a leg injury. Wouldnt hurt to rest him when we can.
S.o.S.: you’re just an instigator, huh. I did have a slight rooting interest in Lincecum’s start tonight, but if someone wants to adopt the Nationals, no problem.
And in the interest of keeping the peace, a joke in which I compare the Nationals to a member of our roster has been redacted.
Wang will pitch again. He will have his time to shine.
(plus I hedged my Lincecum interest with the over 8
)
Blanco,
I’m envious. Boston has FIVE guys with ERA’s under 3 in their pen.
They have the best pen in the league by far. That could be the difference this season if Cashman doesn’t fix our pen. The two teams are close in the other categories, but they blow us away in the bullpen
ICB – i’m there june 8 at 11pm, although that show may end up at googie’s upstairs. same place, though.
DT – plenty of vinyl at amoeba. plenty.
nick – you missed steve earle!
The game of utmost importance for the Giants comes tomorrow night, when the Big Unit goes for #300.
Nice inning by Tomko
Throws strikes, attacks. He could be a useful piece.
This would be a good game for Veras. The Yankees do not need to use Wang in this game unless he needs the work.
DT: the Amoeba in SF has a ton of vinyl. Big store, used to be a bowling alley.
oh man… thats so scary.. When I was in Toronto, a guy got hit in the head with a baseball bat and blood was everywhere. I think he ended up with like 20 stitches in his head too.
“Enough!! You and Nick need to make up already!! Youv gone too far now hoping Giants lose as if there affiliated with Nick or something.”
SOS – I tried that yesterday. It’s no use.
It’s like the LoHud version of Jon and Kate. The tension is so thick you could cut it with rock, paper or scissors.
Dave – Where was that aggressiveness against the Phillies?
He got 2 outs and was afraid to pitch to Chase Utley.
Thanks Kasey and Nick. I’ll have to check out Amoeba the next time I’m on the left coast.
Memo to Veras: Don’t Suck
Veras..6.97 era…..peeeee..uuuuuuuuu.
LOL Veras
Even in a 9 run game he makes you nervous
Homeruns like veras.
Bases loaded no outs for Detroit.
Amoeba’s Used Jazz section is what dreams are made of
No… hopefully Veras sucks, then he will get DFA’d.
If he throws a 1-2-3 inning, it will probably buy him another week here atleast.
tigers load the bases no out against pappelbon down 5-1
“It’s like the LoHud version of Jon and Kate.”
Nick and Trisha plus Swisha? — Tuesdays on YES.
And of course, Papelbum gets to face the bottom of the order with the bases loaded. Why couldn’t Miguel Cabrera be due up?
Bases loaded no outs for Detroit.
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Whoa. Might need to check out that game
Bases loaded, let’s hope Papelbum blows up the game
Nick,
Sorry bro couldnt resist. It was just funny they happened to be playing the Giants.
Sorry it took so long to respond. Had to look up the word redacted and after i looked it up i redacted all i wanted to say. Again, maybe dumb but not stupid.
Kay – “You don’t give up on an arm that throws 96 MPH”
::Sigh::
Wow victor thanks for the heads up. Not that it might make any difference, but nobody out!
K-ace
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Bases loaded, let’s hope Papelbum blows up the game
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I love when Papelbon blows saves and then has meltdowns in the dugout
“1) On and off the field in a business-like manner
2) Run 90 feet hard every time
3) Turn bases hard -– think advance base, pressure the defense
4) Dive for the great play (some situations dictate no diving)
5) Outfielders should back up all plays. The ball should move all defensive players. Don’t be a spectator.
6) Pitchers execute back-up plays without fail.
7) Go in hard to break up double plays.”
if you have to read these to know these things you are not a player.
no wonder the kids coming up have such a rough adjustment.
Jorge getting ticked!! Wants this done!
S.o.S.: heh, no problem. I get blamed either way. If I say something, I’m a snake. If someone else says something, I’m a snake leading a gossip party. I can’t win.
Too bad Josh Anderson put on a good ab. 10 pitches, than struck out.
Yeah Erica, when Papelbon blow’s saves and acts all crazy it reminds me of soap operas hehe.
Great outing by Halladay today. He got his 9th win of the season and struck out 14! Yes, 14 guys!
Finally! Yankees win
10 games over!
Veras looks like hes going through some things.
It’s amazing the slack a team will give you if you throw a mid-nineties fastball.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world wonders how you made it onto an MLB team when you couldn’t hit water if you fell out of a boat.
Papelbon gets the 1st out but took 11 pitches to do it.
Papelface pitch count is almost 30 only has one out to show for it.
All Papelbon does is throw that stupid fastball and still no one can crush it. God damn it.
Excuse me? Posada had a great game? How about his inability to hold runners?
Kelvin Ace
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Yeah Erica, when Papelbon blow’s saves and acts all crazy it reminds me of soap operas hehe.
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That’s giving him WAY too much credit. I think he acts more like a 5 year old
Um Jorge doesn’t hold runners the pitcher does.
As soon as I turned the Sox game on, Papelbon struck out the last two batters. Turning it off and going back to Yankee game.
Hey- the dude doing the on field interview was pretty cute
Amazing Papelbon struck them both out, thats insane Detroit should’ve taken advantage with bases loaded no outs.
touche but you know what I mean
papelbon’s going to get out of the jam unscathed. he did his job, it just took a ton of pitches.
http://i44.tinypic.com/zivtk4.jpg
And Ms. lady luck is still getting it done.
Darn it. Down to Ramon Santiago
Maybe we’ll just have to be satisfied with Papelcrap throwing 32 pitches (already) and being “unavailable” tomorrow.
Baseball Tonight did me proud tonight, lol. They called Padilla’s beaning of Tex bush league and said that Nelson Cruz shouldn’t be upset at AJ, but at his pitcher (that he should go up to Padilla and tell him that if he wants the team to score runs for him, he’s got to quit that stuff).
Good win tonight – but what win isn’t good? I’m very happy with and for AJ – he completely shut the Rangers down after the 3rd inning.
SOS – I tried that yesterday. It’s no use.
It’s like the LoHud version of Jon and Kate. The tension is so thick you could cut it with rock, paper or scissors.
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DT,
It sounds like the only solution to this problem is Dr. Phil. I just want to know who gets to keep the dog?
I changed my mind. Reality show will bring in the big bucks. Promoter anyone?
Good night fellas.
i bet papelbon fist pumps at the end of the game like he won the world series, taking more than 30 pitches and loading the bases to close the game.
Posada’s on-field post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60869987c35ee7ac/
Detroit = Fail
did he fist pump?
So he got out of it, did he do his stupid dance?
Carl June 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Detroit = Fail
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Epic fail Detroit.
Paps throws 35 pitches and doesn’t get a save.
NESN says it was Francona’s 500th win. Is that worth using your closer in a non-save situation?
Man, Papelbon is good
I give the guy credit, he has a lot of stones.
Rest of the AL East won tonight as well.
listen. i hate papsmear as much as the next guy. but if you have bases loaded and no outs and end up striking out the last 3 batters, you have the right to do cartwheels on the field if you want to. that’s pretty amazing.
see, other teams load the bases with nobody out and get nothing out of it. so… there’s that.
detroit GAVE boston that game. dozens of times. that would NEVER happen if jim leyland were alive.
No, Papelbon exhaled and then punched Varitek in the stomach. Grrr. Loaded the bases and struck out the side.
Who cares? Great game in the Bronx!
Can’t believe all the whining about Matsui & Gardner before the game even started.
I am taking off folks. The Law and Order SVU finale is waiting on DVR. Hopefully the rain will hold off tomorrow!
So Tex take out slide starts a rally, this is scary.
Tigers last 2 ABs were pathetic
One thing is for certain, The Bronx Bombers are very entertaining this season…And so is the 2009 version of The Lo Hud……AJ is coming around, as this is his second straight win….I see him him going on a nice run…..
“It sounds like the only solution to this problem is Dr. Phil. I just want to know who gets to keep the dog?”
That’s a lot of pressure on young Mr. Hughes.
No dogs. I think snakes were the pet of choice, if I understand correctly.
Papelbon is amazing. How does he do it?
His only blemish is against the Mutts
LOL Burnett threw over Cruz’ head
Awesome
Oh well. Hopefully all those pitches come back to bite Pap tomorrow night. Or Detroit scores a ton of runs and he never sniffs the game.
Eh, As long as the Yankees win, I’m happy. Basically, no matter what the records show, everyone (except John Harper) knows that the AL East rules…….Texas and Detroit are good teams, but they aren’t patches on the East teams.
Eh, As long as the Yankees win, I’m happy. Basically, no matter what the records show, everyone (except John Harper) knows that the AL East rules…….Texas and Detroit are good teams, but they aren’t patches on the East teams.
Here’s a good sampling of the morons tonight in a game the Yanks won 12-3 and Burnett goes 7.0 IP allowing 3 ER.
Several repeat offenders, too.
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ZMAN7777 June 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
So much for jumping on a turd pitcher like Padilla and avoiding the pen.
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Mark in Tampa June 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Typical Burnett game.
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Rachel June 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
I hope that Burnett doesn’t blame the ballpark EVER.. He misses with his pitches a ton. The pitches to Blalock, Cruz and Murphy were right over the plate..If he put his pitches where he wanted to he wouldnt give up so many bombs..Pathetic…
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IrishCarBomb June 2nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
another sweet signing by Cashman
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Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it June 2nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Take Burnett out before he blows the game.
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ZMAN7777 June 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Who’s better, Burnett or Padilla? Hmmm. Tough one.
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Rachel June 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Another pitch up and over the plate…Burnett is a joke. Let me guess it is the stadium’s fault right?
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KO June 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
What a joke Burnett is. You know it’s obvious who should be moved out of the rotation for Wang. It’s AJ. He’s been our worst starter this year and it’s not even close. He had one good start last time out after like 8 in a row poor ones and now he’s back to this. Unreal. Just make him throw a fastball and slider and put him the bullpen so Wang can come back. I don’t care if he’s an 80 MM reliever. They need to move someone out of the rotation and he’s the worst.
Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Burnett needs to fix himself or he wont be long in this game.
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ZMAN7777 June 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm
It will be an Aceves night, because Burnett will be lucky to pitch into the 6th given pitch count.
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Laura – Stay in 1st place together, strike out alone! June 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
So far, Posada has not impressed me since he’s been back from the DL.
“Who cares? Great game in the Bronx!”
Exactly, m! We control our own destiny!
Boston is going to beat up on all of it’s out of division opponents.
So will Tampa (outside of games in Cleveland) and Toronto.
This division is excellent. One bad week and it can really hurt you. They’re going to be a lot of nights where we lose ground if we lose and don’t gain even if we win.
Most players would look at a 1-5 day with 3 Ks and 1 GIDP as a bad day.
David Ortiz saw his batting average rise.
I wish we were starting a series against the Sux tomorow. This team is so amp’d right now. We owe them some payback in Fenway next week.
What was the number one song the day you were born?
Mine is K.C. and the Sunshine Band’s ‘Please Don’t Go’
http://www.thisdayinmusic.com/birthdayno1
Paul O’Neill looks like a Q-tip
We really can’t let Tampa gain ground this weekend. Even if we split, it’s fine. Do not let them win 3 of 4 on our turf and get back in the race.
They are poised for a run. Looks like they found some stability at the back end of the pen now with Balfour/Howell. They scare me much more than Toronto
I am soo happy that they beat that pathetic loser Padilla. He is known for hitting batters whenever he pleases. I remember Ozzie Guillen wanted to beat the crap put of him after he hit one of his guys a couple of times. I also love the fire in Tex. He showed that the Yanks will not be targets.
Weather doesn’t look good at all tomorrow. Really don’t want a rain out when we are red hot and have to play 2 on Thursday.
Geez, Michael Kay made it sound like AJ gave up 8 runs or something……..sheesh.
GB, thanks for that compliation – it makes for hilarious reading, lol
Yes, AJ lost it in that one inning. So what? Lots of pitchers do. He did we had to do the other 6 innings with one pitch. Not many can do that.
We have our chance to make the statement against Boston next week
Should be fun
i really want to know if that was SJ44 earlier and, if so, i’d like to hear his take on aj’s outing and whether he still feels burnett is the odd man out.
If Joba and Hughes were not on innings limits, then it would not be a lock that Burnett made the postseason rotation. It would be whichever 4 starters were throwing the best at the time.
Yeah Franco, I thought Burnett would blow it…I’m unashamed. He had nothing. And I’m not a moron.
I doubt that was the real SJ44 and AJ will not be the odd man out if/when Wang comes back. This is my opinion as of June 2.
I admit to being wrong, but even when Burnett got it together he wasn’t dominating…Burnett didn’t have it today.
The sad part is that Burnett has a 3.86 career ERA, yet some people expect him to be some kind of ace and trash him when he doesn’t.
Burnett is a mediocre starting pitcher. Look past the $82 million dollar price tag and accept him for what he is. It’s not fair to him to expect him to be some kind of shutdown pitcher.
YES post-game booth report audio with Bob Lorenz, Michael Kay, and Paul O’Neil:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60870547945e55bf/
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/608705607bbd7757/
I thought it was, Nick……..except for the fact that the suggestion that AJ should and would be removed from the rotation was absolutely ludicrous.
Actually Franco a lot of those comments weren’t stupid…Burnett’s turn around was quite dramatic.
Some were really really stupid.
I still say that in a couple years AJ could be the best #5 in baseball. If he stays healthy.
I’m slightly annoyed I was included with Giuissepe Franco’s morons.
Padilla and Teixeira were teammates in Texas for 1\2 a season
I just read on nyyfans.com from a poster who said Montero has been promoted and is on his way to Trenton. Does anybody know if there is any truth to this? Thanks.
You guys are joking, right? You’re going to sit your #2 guy in the playoffs? That’s not how it’s done. This is not a meritocracy. Jeez. Some of you need to look past your nose.
ooh, Tex is pissed, basically saying that anyone that knows Vincente knows that stuff is his MO – not the right way to play the game……
m, you’re right but Wang is the real number two guy.
Teixeira says he hit 2 HRs off him and since then Padilla has been throwing at him.
“I still say that in a couple years AJ could be the best #5 in baseball. If he stays healthy.”
I agree 100%
m
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Yes, AJ lost it in that one inning. So what? Lots of pitchers do. He did we had to do the other 6 innings with one pitch. Not many can do that.
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m, I’ll try to explain it to you. Players on the Yankees have to be perfect.
Pitchers are not allowed to give up any runs, hits, or miss their spot. Every pitch needs to be absolutely perfect, or they should be released, traded, banished to the bullpen for their inability to pitch, or Cashman should be fired.
Hitters are not allowed to strike out or swing at a pitch out of the strike zone. They are certainly not allowed to slump. Tex may be doing “ok” right now, but let’s not forget how bad he was in April. He has no errors yet, but you may remember there was a throw that one time that got away from him. I thought this guy had a glove? Horrible signing by Cash.
There is no acceptable time to make an out. If there are men on base, they suck. If not, they suck for not starting a rally. This is why so many of our players are obvious busts, and Cashman should be fired.
I hope that helps clear things up.
“We were teammates for 2 years and I remember getting hit alot because he was hitting other players”. Tex
Teix, sounds like a volcano not trying to erupt in this interview
I’m glad he’s Youkilis, he might actually whoop somebody’s … one day.
Ha ha, Tex gets the last laugh.
LOL Wow Teix is pissed, even now
We get it – AJ is a terrible pitcher..
These questions are AWFUL……If they don’t speak with AJ, I will be really annoyed, lol
I feel bad for the YES new guy after that session
Yeah Franco, I thought Burnett would blow it…I’m unashamed. He had nothing. And I’m not a moron.
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Perhaps not, but you seem like someone who hasn’t seen many baseball games before.
Pitchers have bad innings. Doesn’t make him a bad pitcher, doesn’t make it a bad game.
Baseball is played over 9 innings a game, 162 games a year. Overreacting to innings just isn’t something a knowledgeable baseball fan does.
66 stripes, that I disagree with.
Except a solid starter with a -4 ERA.
Melancon 7th, Aceves/Bruney 8th, Mo 9th: I like it June 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
I admit to being wrong, but even when Burnett got it together he wasn’t dominating…Burnett didn’t have it today.
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The average starting pitcher makes 30+ starts a year. Most pitchers believe that they have their really good stuff in roughly 1/3 of them.
The other 2/3 are a battle and what separates the good pitchers from the bad ones.
No pitcher has his good stuff every time out there. That’s impossible. But Burnett did grind out a decent performance and did the job.
He threw one bad pitch and paid for it. Nothing wrong with that.
FYI, Swisher charged the mound against Padilla after he was hit by a pitch in 2007, both were suspended.
Tex is right Padilla has been a head case hitting batters his whole career….and everyone knows it. The Texas hitters are going to take there share of balls to the back for it. The hitters should tell him to cut it out. What an idiot….
Stuckey, to clarify: I NEVER called Burnett a bad pitcher. Ever. Look back and check. I said he didn’t have it TONIGHT.
There is a new catcher in Tampa, and the rumors seem true Jesus is on his way to Trenton.
Anyone watching the Strasburg thing on Baseball Tonight? Does Gammons know that 1999 was not a part of the 21st century?
I don’t know if you guys have heard, but it’s been confirmed that Jesus Montero has been promoted to AA Trenton.
“i really want to know if that was SJ44 earlier and, if so, i’d like to hear his take on aj’s outing and whether he still feels burnett is the odd man out.”
It was a fraud. I would stake a life on it.
(well maybe not my life but an old guy like Randy or GB.)
SJ will be here tomorrow morning and share his views.
AJ started the season as the #3 and he hasn’t done a lot to move up the depth chart. It’s June 2, no one is setting the playoff rotation.
And m, I’m surprised to see you say the ‘look past your nose stuff’.
I think you guys should chill out a bit with Burnett and be happy that your team won today and that were having success of late and hope this success will continue throughout the season.
Not trying to get on anyone’s bad side once again, but just be happy man. Were playing good baseball.
Franco-You’re right, but does that comment deserve the moron list?
I resent that. I have actually been one ofthe more positive posters here.
I would bet Hughes and Joba outperform Burnett next year as well.
Joba is outperforming him right now lol
LOL AJ – after being asked something to the effect of whether the big lead helped him, he said he’s been given a couple of big leads before and still blew them….
Woo Hoo! Jesus Montero promoted.
The sad part is that Burnett has a 3.86 career ERA, yet some people expect him to be some kind of ace and trash him when he doesn’t.
Burnett is a mediocre starting pitcher.
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In the year 2009, a 3.86 ERA makes you a VERY good starting pitcher.
Most ML teams would take that from their #1 starter, happily.
What games are some of you folks watching exactly?
By the way, Hughes has been pitching worse than Burnett.
AJ is a honest guy LOL
Teixeira’s post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60870786ba803180/
A.J.’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60870802bde9d8e1/
I am glad we are talking about the playoff rotation in June..lol
AJ is being paid to be the #2 guy. He’s not being paid to sit out the playoffs. Or go to the bullpen.
m-I said you’re right, he belongs in the rotation, but Wang started the year as the number two.
Heh heh, I guess the change of scenery has not worked out for Aaron Heilman.
Kind of comical that people believed that Press conference BS about being some kind of “changed pitcher”, interpreting that as if Burnett would finally pitch up to his stuff.
Still isin’t happening. And as long as he is a 2-pitch pitcher with mediocre control, it won’t.
He is a fine #3 starter. People need to stop pretending he is some star pitcher who will pitch up to his stuff.
Stuckey, to clarify: I NEVER called Burnett a bad pitcher. Ever. Look back and check. I said he didn’t have it TONIGHT.
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He was VERY good until he walked Young after having him down 0-2. He lost it for a few batters.
As I say, that happens ALL the time in baseball. Pettitte has made a career out of gutting out games when his stuff wasn’t great and limiting damage in tough innings.
I’ll as again, what game are you watching that you think starter pitchers have peaks and valleys during games?
Teix MVP, I remember a Texeiramvp and you’re not him. Accident?
Melancon,
Sorry about that. Reply was meant for Nick in SF. Shuffle the deck anyway you want during the season, it doesn’t matter.
Padilla has always been a punk…..The bad blood between the Rangers and the Angels has always been about him……Throw his arse in the NL and he’ll change his tune…He’ll be out of Texas after his contract runs out in September….Hated to play with guys like him…..
AJ was the #3 behind Wang
They didn’t put him there to “break up the power guys”, they did it because Wang has outperformed him from 2006 through 2008 and deserved that respect.
He doesn’t have the arm that AJ does but he sure as heck had the results, and that’s all that matters.
Stuckey, after that HR, he wasn’t the same.
I admit I was wrong and he did admirably, but I didn’t trust him to hold it for the rest of the game. Few did.
And you asked me about peaks and valleys in a season, not a game.
Damon sums it up well-
“When you have that belief that you don’t really have to go out and outslug a team on a day-to-day basis, and you have a chance to win, even if you’re not perfect, that feels good.
“I felt, a little earlier in the season, we had to be perfect to win games. Right now, it seems like we can get by with a couple of mistakes here and there, and sometime during the game, someone’s going to pick us up.”
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....281.column
No worries m.
Burnett’s career ERA in the AL is 4.14
Remember, he spent 7 seasons with the Marlins.
Anyway you slice you, you get mediocre.
Being paid the 2nd highest salary does not make someone the 2nd best pitcher, alas. I wish it was that easy.
m, are you taking seriously any suggestion that AJ’s spot is in jeapordy? No credible person is saying he’s going to sit out the playoffs on June 2 or at all. Claws in!
I know we’re splitting hairs here, but let’s just say in theory that AJ is the #2. Kevin Long let it slip that way before ST. He’s getting paid to be the #2 guy even though he was originally slotted behind Wang. And even though it got all messed up. Hughes is pitching in the #2 spot right now. You guys don’t consider him the #2 guy, right?
Right now, our number 2 is Andy.
m, you need to go by who’s better. That’s Wang.
Montero to AA…That will open some GM’s eyes….Showcasing him maybe ?????
i think aj is excellent.. he seems to have a very positive attitude, and is a very solid pitcher. he is becoming my favorite. i love how he stands up and takes the heat like a man. he is making me reconsider my antiquated attitude towards tattoos. (as long as my daughters dont get em)
Melancon 7th,
I would hope that the guy being paid $82 million to anchor the rotation with CC wouldn’t be outperformed by a 22 yr old kid who is still learning his trait and our #6 starter.
RC 16-Hughes hasn’t done better. Wang has, career wise.
Melancon,
Wang’s not better than AJ right now. He can’t even wrest the spot from Hughes.
I love Wang, but let’s let him get back into the rotation before assigning him the #2 pitcher status.
Andy is our #2? Joba’s ERA is 40 points lower than his.
I do think we can agree that at the present time, Burnett is the weakest link of the staff.
m-Well, if you’re talking about now it’s Pettite.
R+, maybe you’re right.
Does anyone have the link to the article that says Montero has been promoted?
Wait, who was arguing that a healthy Wang is better than Burnett? Is that even necessary? The stats speak for themselves. But not surprising that Wang is being overlooked. That seems to be the trend.
I don’t care about numbering these guys. Every time they take the mound, they are the most important player on the field. AJ isn’t going to get any slack from anyone because 99% of the people didn’t want him. So be it.
Melancon,
I’ve never seen managers rearrange pitching rotations based on results.
You try to make the order towards the end of the season, so that it’s an easy transition towards the playoffs.
Obviously, we have to re-do ours because it’s whack. But under ordinary circumstances, you go with the order you’ve got in descending order. You might tweak it but you’re not going to go in an arbitrary order based on results.
The Yanks are playing good ball, are 10 games over and you’re bickering about pitchers rotation order?
Whoever has the ball tonight is #1. See, problem solved.
Of course Wang isin’t better than AJ now
Is there even a pitcher in baseball who isin’t better than Wang at the moment? Wang at this point is a non-entity this year. We’re talking about their careers.
3 starts erase 2.5 years of excellence?
Burnett’s career ERA in the AL is 4.14
Remember, he spent 7 seasons with the Marlins.
Anyway you slice you, you get mediocre.
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4.14 isn’t mediocre in today’s game.
But all that aside. He pitched better than 4.14 tonight, so if you’re expectations are for “mediocre”, shouldn’t you be happy right about now?
Fans who find something to complain about when when the starting pitcher gives up 3 in 7 in a 12-3 win for their 16th W in 20 games embarrass themselves.
“He can’t even wrest the spot from Hughes”
Nice dig, but that will likely not be the case before this month is over. We’ll see.
If the playoffs start next week and you’re seeing your rotation by merit and splitting lefties, you go with:
CC
Joba
Pettitte
Burnett
If the rotation is set by the accountant:
CC
Burnett
Pettitte
Joba
None of us know what the situation will be in October, who will be up against their innings limit, who will be performing best. All we know is that AJ did fine today and his spot is 100% secure. I never implied otherwise.
Pel, thanks for posting the interviews……AJ seems happy with his performance and I’m glad about that
“you’re not going to go in an arbitrary order based on results.”
If it’s based on results, it’s not arbitrary.
pat,
Sorry about that. But when I saw that people are talking about leaving AJ out of any post-season rotation because they’re nitpicking, I got hot.
Guy’s kept us in games in all but 2 of his starts, and he gets crapped on all the time. That’s what I meant by look past your nose.
It was an outrageous contract though.
I really wish Hughes showed something last year, enough to get a spot this year, so that they wouldn’t have panicked.
$82 million for Brunett is lunacy. He is the 6th highest paid pitcher in baseball!!
AJ is getting paid $80 million to keep us in the game?
That’s the benchmark we set? Pettitte keeps us in games too and his base salary is $6 million.
“Montero to AA…That will open some GM’s eyes….Showcasing him maybe ?????”
if they are trading montero they are getting something BIG
Joe,
He’s done better than keep us in games. He’s had no-decisions in which he’s given up 2, 3, 4 runs.
You can complain about the ticket price, but AJ’s a pretty good pitcher and if people can’t appreciate that he’s a Yankee well, I can’t help them.
m: who said AJ is being left out of the playoff rotation? You said you were directing your ‘hot’ comments towards me, but I sure as heck didn’t say that.
I’d trade Montero for Houston Street
“Montero to AA…That will open some GM’s eyes….*Showcasing him maybe* ?????”
No chance in hell
“I’d trade Montero for Houston Street”
are you crazy?
M, I feel the same way……People are going to feel the way they feel about AJ – it’s disappointing, but heck, it doesn’t change how I feel (nor does it change the facts – that AJ has been generally solid). I just hope that when he starts getting hot, these same people don’t praise him (just like I couldn’t stand fans who would boo and then cheer Alex).
m
No sorry necessary. Don’t sweat the knee jerk that happens here sometimes or else you’ll go insane.
Why no love for the 2-time 19 game winner?
As good as we are now, we’ll be even better with an effective Wang.
“are you crazy?”
They must not know who he is clearly
JESUS MONTERO = UNTRADEABLE
He’s in AA b/c they believe it’s time to test him up there.
They are just bringing him up because he is killing the ball in single A. This move allows both Montero and Romine to get the time they deserve at catcher.
AJ pitched a good game tonight…He served up a three run dinger but whiffed eight and settled down and went 7 innings…..You take that any night…..He’s a # 3 pitcher who gives you a plus 7 at season’s end….17-10 would be fine….Yes the Yanks overpaid for him, but remember the Braves were tossing around the same kind of dough….Yanks threw in an extra year….Like I mentioned earlier, he’ll be the best # 5 pitcher in baseball in 2 years….
Nick,
No my comment was at your comment that he hasn’t done much to move up the depth chart. While that’s true, I don’t think they’re moving people up and down the postseason depth chart based on what’s happened to date.
And yes, it was someone else who said that AJ’s the one that would be left out, and I think that’s certifiably short-sighted because they’re paying him money to help take us to the promised land.
Jesus Montero is not getting moved up to be showcased in a trade.
He’s going to Trenton because he’s a man among boys Tampa, and so Austine Romine can take over the full-time catching duties there.
Montero is untouchable right now. The only way he would get traded is in a blockbuster. Not Huston Street or Mark DeRosa.
I mean Austin Romine.
montero for roy halladay. sold.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....281.column
Nice article……
A looseness in the way that Damon meant it. That the Yankees kept grinding after setbacks, putting up a seven-run fourth after Nelson Cruz’s three-run, third-inning blast over the leftfield fence.
A tightness in having each other’s backs. After Texas starter Vicente Padilla plunked his former teammate Mark Teixeira for the second time of the game, in the fourth inning, Teixeira – following an angry stare and some apparent words to Padilla – executed a hard, clean takeout of Rangers shortstop Elvis Andrus, breaking up a potentially inning-ending double-play grounder by Alex Rodriguez.
And in the top of the fifth, Burnett displayed his solidarity with Teixeira by knocking Cruz on his posterior, generating the loudest reaction of the night by the fans in attendance.
Trust me. they aren’t trading Montero, and, they certainly wouldn’t promote him to trade him. They may have moved him to get him closer to a good catching instructor, like Butch Wynegar or Tony Pena. If he has in fact been promoted, it would be because Jose Gil is going back to Tampa, or Mitch abeita is being promoted to Tampa, with Kyle Higashioka is going to Trenton. That also would move him to the front of the catching list in the system. You don’t trade a 19 year old catcher that hits .300 with 35-40 homer potential
If Torre could hold Mussina out of the rotation in the playoffs, then Girardi can hold Burnett out of it. The 4 best starters will pitch, whoever they are at the end of the season.
It’s not out of the realm of possibility. However, it is extremely premature to even discuss it on June 2nd.
Higashioka is going to Trenton, GB you know something we don’t ? I doubt Higa is moving up this yr. to AA
Oh and no not even for Roy Halladay do I trade Jesus.
Well, if Burnett is pitching like Mussina did that August, I don’t think even Burnett would be surprised that he was out of any post-season rotation.
But it turns out that Mussina was injured, so there would probably be a physical issue if got to be that bad. Where you couldn’t even make it out of the second inning.
You can never trust a guy like Burnett in a playoff game
2-pitch pitchers with mediocre are VERY hard to trust. If one pitch isin’t working, he is pretty much screwed. He also can be very predictable when his stuff isin’t working, thus he is prone to the one big inning. It’s not mental on his part, it is mental on the opposing hitters part who know how to read him.
I’d have him as the 4th starter in the playoffs. However, if it is an elimination game, I use CC on short rest.
This past winter, NYY needed two pitchers for the rotation and they got the two best. In the last 13 innings, he’s made one mistake…while facing the same team twice in a week. That’s a quick repeat for a pitcher. Other than one pitch, a heavy hitting Texas team wasn’t able to make adjustments. He’s a fastball pitcher facing a fastball hitting team, and he shut them down twice. Pettitte will have his work cut out for him tomorrow.
m: whoever said AJ would be demoted or left of any roster was just talking crazy talk. Not to be taken seriously.
And if Wang returns to form and ends up with double-digit wins (big, big ifs) and AJ pitches as he has so far, I think Wang is your #2 starter just as he started the season as the #2.
I did not mean that they are keeping a depth chart that they update every week or every start with some imaginary playoff rotation. AJ came in as the 2/3, basically interchangable with Wang behind CC. Wang fell off the table. Yet AJ has not been the clear 2nd best starter. That is what I meant when I said he has not improved his position.
He could have siezed the rotation and he didn’t. Not for lack of trying. There is no reason to believe that he won’t be the clear #2 behind CC by September. But it is also fathomable that he’ll be stuck at 11 wins and the people who grumble about him now will grumble still.
Luckily for AJ, he has his destiny in his own hands.
Brandon ? Is Berroa really starting today ????
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Higashioka is going to Trenton, GB you know something we don’t ? I doubt Higa is moving up this yr. to AA
Oh and no not even for Roy Halladay do I trade Jesus.
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My error….I meant to type in Charleston. Abeita to Tampa. Just a guess.
You know the team is going good when we’re discussing playoff rotations.
these people cannot be real. they must be joking, trying to provoke emotion. my kids used to do this stuff.
Nick,
Believe me, I’d be the happiest person in the world if Wang & Burnett could you give us 7 innings of 2-3 run ball every start. It’s all about the end result, and people can’t seem to appreciate that for the most part AJ helps us achieve that goal.
Anyone else notice how many times Veras shook off Posada who wanted him to throw a fastball 3-2 up by 9? Even after Posada went out to the mound to convince him to throw a fastball, Veras still shook him off but Posada did not back off, continuing to put down one finger even after multiple shakeoffs.
Amazing how arrogant Veras is. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him sent down tomorrow.
From Heyman’s twitter:
padilla (angriest ranger with bradley gone) should control self. hits ex-mate teixeira twice, then yanks destroy his ERA
FV2
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Anyone else notice how many times Veras shook off Posada who wanted him to throw a fastball 3-2 up by 9? Even after Posada went out to the mound to convince him to throw a fastball, Veras still shook him off but Posada did not back off, continuing to put down one finger even after multiple shakeoffs.
Amazing how arrogant Veras is. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him sent down tomorrow.
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Jesus….how many times do people need to be told that Veras CAN’T be sent to the minors unless he passes through waivers.
m: I appreciate what AJ had done. I lot of his critics here would appreciate him more if he did it more often and more consitently. I think that trust will come, but the paycheck and the expectations and the pies won’t do it by themselves.
AJ’s bad inning was probably Jorge’s fault anyway.
The next Sox/Yankees series coming up soon should be very interesting.
You guys have Arod back, Tex is playing much better, and I think your SP is doing better than early in the season.
Obviously the Yankees will be a tougher opponent than in the two previous series.
Quite honestly the only advantage I see the Sox having right now over the Yankees is the bullpen. Who wins the next series could depend upon how badly the bullpens are needed for each game.
AJ certainly earned more plaudits from his teammates for backing Tex by buzzing Cruz – this is the 2nd time he’s shown that he’s willing to show other teams that you don’t mess around with the Yankees.
Swisher charged the mound against Vincent Padilla back in 07 after he threw at him
GB, If O’Dowd comes calling offering Street for Montero, you don’t at least think about it ???? Yanks traded Doc Medich for Willie Randolph ( Doc Ellis was more of a throw in as Pittsburgh wanted him out of town )
It would have been idiotic if he was ejected and we had to burn through our bullpen in a blowout for 5 innings.
Nick, I think AJ has been more solid than you think and I believe his teammates have a more generous interpretation of his performances than fans do. They don’t just like and appreciate him because of the pies…..
Green Beret,
Did you notice that Pauly (who was in fine form tonight) circled his velocity at one point and said this is why you keep this guy around [even though he can't find the plate]?
But it is sad, that a guy with his stuff is being used in garbage time.
AJ has been ok
i have more confidence in hughes or joba than him though
Ok Matt…….and if AJ didn’t back up his teammate, that would not be a happy clubhouse.
“If O’Dowd comes calling offering Street for Montero, you don’t at least think about it ????”
I hang up, take the plane to Colorado and slap him w/ the reciever.