Game 53: Rangers at Yankees (updates with Wang returning to rotation and Teixeira scratched)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 03, 2009 
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YANKEES (31-21)
New lineup
Jeter SS
Swisher 1B
Damon LF
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Cabrera RF
Gardner CF
Pitching: LHP Andy Pettitte (5-1, 4.10).
RANGERS (30-21)
Kinsler 2B
Young 3B
Jones DH
Cruz RF
Murphy LF
Byrd CF
Davis 1B
Saltalamacchia C
Andrus SS
Pitching: RHP Scott Feldman (4-0, 3.91).
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES.
STAY HOT: The Yankees have won two straight, five of six, six of eight and 16 of 20.
HOME COOKING: The Yankees have won nine of their last 11 games at home.
RALLY CAPS: The Yankees lead the majors with 18 come-from-behind victories.
TOO TOUGH FOR TEXAS: The Yankees are 3-1 against Texas this season and have won 26 of 37 against the Rangers.
REVERSAL OF FORTUNE: The Yankees were 15-17 on May 12 and had a run differential of -25. They are are 16-4 since and have outscored their opponents 99-39.
HOME RUN DERBY: The Rangers lead the majors in home runs with 84. The Yankees are second with 82.
JETERIFFIC: Derek Jeter has hit safely in 16 straight games. He is 16 of his last 30, raising his batting average to .319. Jeter has a base hit in the first inning of 10 of the last 12 games and reached safely in the first inning of 12 of the last 17 games.
A-ROD UPDATE: Since his 5 for 5 game on May 25, Alex Rodriguez is 6 of 26 with two runs scored and three RBI.
MATSUI MASHES: Hideki Matsui has three home runs in 12 at-bats against the Rangers this season.
Back with much more later on.
UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Wang starts tomorrow. More to come later. Hughes to bullpen.
UPDATE, 4:49 p.m.: Hughes is a temporary bullpen fix, Girardi said. He’ll be a starter long term.
UPDATE, 6:06 p.m.: Teixeira has been scratched for a bruised right ankle, the result of last night’s takeout slide of Elvis Andrus. X-rays were negative and he is day-to-day.
The tarp is on the field and there seems like little chance of the game starting on time.
UPDATE, 6:11 p.m.: Word is the Rangers released Vicente Padilla today, by the way.
UPDATE, ANALYSIS OF TODAY’S MOVE, 6:16 p.m.: The Yankees had little choice but to return Wang to the rotation. As I posted earlier today, as each day passed, his arm strength would decrease. Meanwhile he is not well-suited for the bullpen.
Before he was injured, Wang was one of the most effective and durable starters in the majors. He had shown lately that he was back to that level. The opportunity to add a pitcher of his caliber to the rotation is not one a team can pass on. Hughes has pitched well, but not as well as Wang in his prime. Not yet, anyway.
Hughes will take on the bullpen role vacated by Wang and will be available if (or when) they need another starter. It’ll happen eventually.
I would bank on Wang pitching very well tomorrow. He knows he needs to make the most of this chance.
UPDATE, 6:40 p.m.: Looks like they’re getting ready to pull the tarp. We could have baseball this evening.
UPDATE, 6:48 p.m.: First pitch at 7:15 p.m.
UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: The Rangers just announced some roster moves. No move with Padilla as it turns out. The Rangers announced purchased the contract of right-handed pitcher Doug Mathis from Triple-A Oklahoma City. To make room for Mathis on the 25-man roster, the club optioned right-handed pitcher Warner Madrigal to Oklahoma City. To make room for Mathis on the 40-man roster, the team transferred right-handed pitcher Willie Eyre from the 15- to the 60-day disabled list.
UPDATE, 7:41 p.m.: Sorry for the lack of posts. Lots of newspaper work to get to given all the news today.
I’ll check in from time to time. You have to wonder whether Andy’s back is bothering him given that rough first inning. Maybe Hughes will return to the rotation sooner than we think.
UPDATE, 7:51 p.m.: There’s one out in the second inning and Andy has allowed five hits and two walks and committed an error. There is no chance he’s OK physically.
UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.: Big missed opportunity there. Alex has not had it with men on base lately.
UPDATE, 8:47 p.m.: Pettitte has allowed seven hits and walked six in four innings. He’s fortunate it’s only 4-1.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: You know what Jorge Posada does really well for his pitcher? Hit big home runs. That’s a good skill to have as a catcher.
4-2. Could this be another comeback win? The Yankees have 18 of them.
UPDATE, 10:04 p.m.: Elvis Andrus is a good-looking rookie. He’s one of the players they received from Atlanta for Teixeira. He has a terrific arm.
4-2. Yankees will need some ninth-inning magic to stay in first place alone.
Lets win this
Micheal Kay is making great points
any word on the weather? (real question–I’m going tonight, will they be taking outdoor BP and thus does it make sense to go early?)
TBA LINEUP!? Torre would have had it out right now, caring more about the team than standing in the Great Hall! We’d be 11 games over .500 if Torre was managing today!
I’m on my way down from Saratoga Springs. Is this game gonna happen? Weather is pretty bad….
Biggest issue tonight is the rain.
http://bit.ly/iidrI
From Heyman’s Twitter:
# spies tell me kate hudson sat with 3 a-rod posse members who poured wine on field before his at-bats. odd, id say
31 minutes ago from web
http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman
39 RA in the last twenty? have the yankees given up less than two runs per game in their last twenty? is that stat right pete?
TBA leading off???
What a travesty. FIRE GIRARDI!111!1
Girardi didn’t even bother to put a lineup together
I guess he decided to throw another game away
“The Yankees were 15-17 on May 12 and had a run differential of -25. They are are 16-4 since and have outscored their opponents 99-39.”
Hence the number one offense in all of baseball, remember last season when it was pretty average at best (7th in the AL in runs scored), well not anymore. Loving it. Every inning I feel this team can score and mount a rally, no dead spots. Nice to see Swisher is heating up again, terrific rebound seasons from both Cano and Melky, Arod has not even heated up yet. I wouldn’t want to pitch to this team, inning after inning. Padilla should have been knocked out much, much earlier last night.
SS – Derek Jeter – R
LF – Johnny Damon – L
1B – Mark Teixeira – S
3B – Alex Rodriguez – R
2B – Robinson Cano – L
C – Jorge Posada – S
DH – Hideki Matsui – L
RF – Nick Swisher – S
CF – Melky Cabrera – S
henner
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
39 RA in the last twenty? have the yankees given up less than two runs per game in their last twenty? is that stat right pete?
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8 games of 2 runs or less. 3 games of 1 run.
LOL pouring wine of the field hahaha
Highly doubt they get the game in.
If they, if will probably be delayed to start and after a few innings, rain shortened or suspended.
Actually, they’ve allowed 65 runs in 20 games.
Yanks have allowed 70 runs over their last 20 games. I’ve got 127 runs scored and 70 allowed.
For the year, they’ve scored 300 and allowed 268.
Actually, they’ve outscored their opponents 127-70. Don’t know where Pete got his stats from.
That actually leads to a Pythagorean winning percentage of 15-5, so the Yankees have been outplaying their production by a game.
The last weather report I saw showed a decent window between 7 and 9. Hopefully they get an early lead and can hold it for 5 or 6 innings.
“spies tell me kate hudson sat with 3 a-rod posse members who poured wine on field before his at-bats. odd, id say”
wtf
“spies tell me kate hudson sat with 3 a-rod posse members who poured wine on field before his at-bats. odd, id say”
yea…
Just read that Rangers’ pitcher Padilla has been placed on outright waivers. Teixeira could care less – same as the Yanks.
“Just read that Rangers’ pitcher Padilla has been placed on outright waivers”
I guess Ron Washington was tired of watching his hitters get plunked every 5th day.
Via Twitter: burnett could get suspended for throwing @Cruz’s head.
“Via Twitter: burnett could get suspended for throwing @Cruz’s head.”
Via whose Twitter?
I had to share this because I wouldn’t have believed it myself if there wasn’t video evidence. A shirtless Melky Cabrera being interviewed in a hotel room by a woman rumored to be porn star and former California gubernatorial candidate, Mary Carey. I would deem it safe for work. This is not a joke. The most random video you will see today is linked below.
http://withleather.uproxx.com/.....a-da-woman
The only way this could be more bizarre is if Arod had walked out of the bathroom.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....on-Padilla
Jon:
@riveraveblues via @Yankeeswfan
If we only gave up 39 runs in 20 games my lord that would be some good pitching
One way of avoiding suspension is getting kicked off the team! lol.
Well, Beckett didn’t miss a start for his “suspension”. AJ better not miss one if they decide to suspend him.
If he does, its a joke.
It was 70 runs, KO. But it’s still good.
Thanks Rebecca.
I hope that doesn’t happen. He wasn’t even thrown out of the game, how could they consider a suspension?
agreed–shouldn’t be more than 3 games, and I would be shocked if it was even that much
“Well, Beckett didn’t miss a start for his “suspension”. AJ better not miss one if they decide to suspend him.”
Won’t. It will just delay his next start by a day. Same as Beckett.
If AJ does get suspended I am sure he will appeal just to throw on his scheduled game and drop it right after sit the games he is not scheduled to throw
if that–he shouldn’t get as big a suspension as Beckett did if he gets one at all
if burnett gets a 5 games, then padilla should get 10. honestly, is there anyone who thinks it wasn’t intentional?
Jon: Because headhunting is a huge no no
Wang could slot in…He could then allow AJ could to move Phil back to the Minors.
18 come-from-behind wins.
ML-record 18 straight errorless games.
Looks like we’re trumping the Superior Clubhouse Culture a lot these days.
Lol.
Hi, does anybody know if the game will happen with all the rain in the forecast? Is there an official word from the Yankees?
There’s no way AJ should get suspended. Had he been ejected from the game, maybe? I had the same feelings about Beckett. If he does get suspended, shouldn’t everyone who instigates the warning get suspended? That would be ridiculous.
It’s not going to help anyone that you can see Girardi mouthing to Teixeira that they’d take care of it. If anyone should get suspended, it’s Joe, solely because the YES cameras busted him.
“Randy – Jerry Royster is looking for you. ”
DT-
jerry royster was our left fielder ad the spark plug for a playoff push the year before on that team. now why would jerry be looking for me? something happened?
ron washington was our shortstop when my humorous incident happened with the gm. washington was all business and very serious. as far as padilla ,washington is old school, but even old school doesn’t put up with throwing at people just for the sake of throwing at people.
i kind of figured padilla was in trouble when saltamacchia threw him under the bus by saying he didn’t blame teixeira for being angry. that’s an odd thing for a catcher to say about his own pitcher.
edzilla: Melky and a Porn Star?
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I had to share this because I wouldn’t have believed it myself if there wasn’t video evidence. A shirtless Melky Cabrera being interviewed in a hotel room by a woman rumored to be porn star and former California gubernatorial candidate, Mary Carey. I would deem it safe for work. This is not a joke. The most random video you will see today is linked below.
http://withleather.uproxx.com/.....a-da-woman
The only way this could be more bizarre is if Arod had walked out of the bathroom
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Perhaps you need to go find yourself a “Pron Star”.
Way to be first with breaking news. You’re about 3 weeks late with this crap.
* spies tell me kate hudson sat with 3 a-rod posse members who poured wine on field before his at-bats. odd, id say*
What type of witchery is this !
W/E she brings goodluck.
Yeah, A.J. may getted banned for a few games. Maybe Wang gets a start after all!
Also, how many times is that Melky and the Pornstar video going to get posted?
I’m in a Mall at an Apple Store posting this.
Just read Jesus Mon-Terror is officially playing tonight.
I’m on my horse to Trenton
Bring in a win, gang.
just think of what this team will be like in a month. if all goes well, bruney is your 8th inning guy, melancon takes the 7th, wang is back a in full effect, arod starting hitting like he can and swisher warms up again. nady and marte would be icing on the cake.
Well, at least A-Rod has better taste than Jeter!
I’d take Madonna and Kate Hudson over Mariah Carey and some of Jeter’s other bimbos anyday!
Great article about the lack of autographs in the NY times today. Sorry cant link
Don’t worry. Pete or Selena will get to the bottom of this wine story. I suspect HGH masking. Or maybe if they pour white wine, it means a fastball is coming, red wine, curve. That’s definitely possible.
Has anyone seen the media giving Kudos to Joe for switching Jeter and Damon in the order. It seems to have proven itself out.
We could always send AJ to the minors, and he would then avoid his suspension.
Oh give me a break. AJ better not be suspended. The ump purposely did not warn the benches after Tex was hit twice because he was allowing AJ to retaliate. He will not put in a report to suspend AJ.
There was no intent to hit Cruz. It was two feet over his head and was closer to the plate than it was to the batter’s box. Apparently, the umpires had no problem with it. They allowed NYY to get their payback and then stopped the missle escalation.
The only intent was to send a message to Texas to get that idiot pitcher under control. Apparently, it worked. You don’t think that the Big Four Texas hitters didn’t bring this to Washington’s attention?
“bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I’m in a Mall at an Apple Store posting this.
Just read Jesus Mon-Terror is officially playing tonight.
*I’m on my horse to Trenton*”
Yankee fans have too much money to waste, now we’re showing up to games on horses.
School is out…posts are wretched. Have a nice evening.
Well, at least A-Rod has better taste than Jeter!
I’d take Madonna and Kate Hudson over Mariah Carey and some of Jeter’s other bimbos anyday!
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Bahahaha
YankWatcher
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Well, at least A-Rod has better taste than Jeter!
I’d take Madonna and Kate Hudson over Mariah Carey and some of Jeter’s other bimbos anyday!
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Really? I’d take Jessica Alba, jessica Biel, Scarlett Johansen and his chick of the moment, Minka Kelly. You can have Madonna. I agree about Mariah Carey though. She’s nasty.
GB Salty said he didn’t know what Padilla was doing, funny Vicente was placed on waivers today.
What is the source saying AJ may be suspended for 3 to 5 games?
I would be shocked if it was that high! Typically pitchers get 4 to 5 games so that they maybe miss one game.
Even as a Sox fan I agree it wouldn’t be fair to suspend him for a longer time than Beckett was suspended.
If A.J. is suspended I certainly hope Padilla is.
The source for the AJ suspension was Sweeny Murti’s twitter account at twitter.com/YankeesWFAN
I’m looking forward to Montero. The kid is a beast.
Thank you Kevin.
Brandon.. Hughes took your spot WANG !
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
GB Salty said he didn’t know what Padilla was doing, funny Vicente was placed on waivers today.
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You can bet that Cruz, Hamilton, Young and Kinsler knew what he was doing and didn’t like it. They knew one of them had a target on them.
“Really? I’d take Jessica Alba, jessica Biel, Scarlett Johansen and his chick of the moment, Minka Kelly. You can have Madonna. I agree about Mariah Carey though. She’s nasty.”
Young Alba not old
Biel (overrated)
Scarlett (oh hell yeah but he did nothing w/ her)
Minka (eh)
Madonna (blah)
Young Mariah (yup)
Kate Hudson as hot as all of them except for Scarlett, god is she fine.
I would be shocked if the game was played today.
Perfect. Now we take Murti’s word on a twitter account? He has about as much credibility as Francessa does.
If A-Rod chose to, he could easily score better chicks than Jeter can, as hard as that is to believe.
A-Rod is the most talented player in the world, richest, best looking.
“The source for the AJ suspension was Sweeny Murti’s twitter account at twitter.com/YankeesWFAN”
And somewhere in a corner Wang is on his knees praying it’s true.
Maroon, I bet there are a few female fans who would disagree with the best looking comment w/A-Rod.
If A.J. is really suspended, Wang right now has just gotten newfound faith in God.
“If A-Rod chose to, he could easily score better chicks than Jeter can, as hard as that is to believe.”
He banged Canseco’s wife, he did Daisy Fuentes when she was a rumored lesbian in Miami. There are others I can’t remember but nice to see he’s getting on track. Although Kate Hudson has sure brought YS some magic during her appearances.
About the only way Wang will start is if AJ is suspended
If not, he won’t get a start until sometime in the middle of August to give Hughes/Joba/Andy a breather
C’mon, Jeter is beautiful, rich, classy, the face of the yankees, and not a headcase. I think he can score better than A-Rod 9 times out of 10, and im not an alex hater…
Brandon,
Biel is overrated now…she wasnt a couple of years ago. Too muscular now. Not so sure you’re right about Scarlett. It was reported a couple of years ago that he hooked up with what was being called the Holy Trinity (Alba, Biel & Scarlett). Again wasnt recent. Not a fan of Minka? She has a crazy body. Hudson is pretty in a girl next door kind of way.
Why does anybody care, including the media, care who’s “scoring? with who? You guys aren’t, but it fascinates you. To me, that’s troublesome and perverse.
Green Beret you cannot compare the two of them. Sweeny is a reporter and his tweet about this was that there was chatter meaning this is what he was hearing at the Stadium and in the clubhouse.
Scarlette went as far to address it in a public interview, her name was thrown around b/c she had a lunch date, remember Anna Kournikova at YS also rumored but nothing happened. People believe too much b/c pics and sightings.
If tonight’s game is rained out, you can watch the Boston-Detroit game on ESPN.
Kate Hudson isin’t anywhere close to Minka, Vanessa Minillo, Young Mariah, Scarlett, Jessica Alba
Scarlett (forgive me SJ)
Yes, lady talk.
Kate Hudson’s not that great. She looks goofy, just like her ma. But I’d much rather have her around than Madonna who is nasty (sorry Laura, you know it though and her music stinks). Scarlett is WAY overrated, IMO.
“jerry royster was our left fielder ad the spark plug for a playoff push the year before on that team. now why would jerry be looking for me? something happened?”
Randy – didn’t you steal Royster’s glove? Or am I getting you confused with Ruben Rivera again?
actually – I went googling for an SPBA article and his name turned up….there were some big names in that league. Color me surprised.
http://hanginemup.com/?p=16
Vanessa Minnillo is a hack
Young Mariah I agree
He did nothing w/ Scartlett (yes the captain K’s ocassionally)
Alba (young yes, old ehh)
Gardner or Melky in CF??
Wfan said Melky in center
It’s a shame that the game’ll most likely be rained out.
I’m hoping for a doubleheader tomorrow.
Line up from the Fan:
Jeter
Damon
Tex
Arod
Canó
Posada
Matsui
Swisher
Cabrera
Swiiiiiish!
Why do the likes of Biel, Kate Hudson, Scarlet etc. get overrated yet ones like Minka and Minillo are underrated?
melky sits
GreenBeret7
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Why does anybody care, including the media, care who’s “scoring? with who? You guys aren’t, but it fascinates you. To me, that’s troublesome and perverse.
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I honestly could care less with who scores with who. I just took the opportunity to talk about a bunch of hot women.
gayle
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Green Beret you cannot compare the two of them. Sweeny is a reporter and his tweet about this was that there was chatter meaning this is what he was hearing at the Stadium and in the clubhouse.
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I have no use for either one of their “styles” of reporting. Murti’s nothing more than a audio version of Cyndi Adams.
UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Wang starts tomorrow. More to come later. Hughes to bullpen.
wow Sweeny says Wang to start tomorrow @Yankeeswfan on Twitter
UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Wang starts tomorrow. More to come later. Hughes to bullpen.
wang is starting tmr
WOW…FROM Sweeney YankeesWFAN Wang will start tomorrow
UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Wang starts tomorrow. More to come later. Hughes to bullpen.
Haha!!!!
“I honestly could care less with who scores with who. I just took the opportunity to talk about a bunch of hot women.”
I second that.
Wang will start tomorrow CC pushed to Friday
I thought Brandon said Hughes was going nowhere? lol… wrong again
CMW TOMORROW!!!! WOOOOOO
Wanger!
As glad as I am that AJ took care of his own, I understand MLB’s POV if they give him a Beckett-esque suspension. For better or worse, they have to follow precedent.
Cheaaaaaa Wang is back!!
Wow. Hughes to bullpen.
Wang starting tomorrow
Mike is going to have a heart attack!!
wang starts tomorrow with hughes going to the bullpen!
Stupid.. if that’s true b/c Hughes earned his spot.
Wang in the rotation tomorrow, Hughes to the BP per Francessa
Wang starts tomorrow and Hughes moves to the bullpen.
Somewhere Brandon must be on his knees crying. Boohoo…Hughes to the bullpen.
CMW to start
ROTATION UPDATE: Wang to start tomorrow, Sabathia Friday and Hughes to the bullpen.
From WFAN
HUGHES TO BULLPEN!!!!
WOW!!!
Shocking, shocking, shocking! But I like it.
Posada should be batting behind A-Rod, not Cano.
Whatever
I don’t like Hughes to the pen
Green i guess different strokes for different folks. I have high regard for Sweeny he knows of what he talks if you only listen to him when he is on with MIke I think you get a different take based on who is asking the questions but watch him on other stations or listen to him when he is on with other anchors and you can see that he is well informed and knows his stuff and to be honest i dont see the Cindy Adams comparison at all.
That means Wang, CC, and Joba scheduled to go in Fenway
Pete,
Are the Yankees going to take the Santana approach with Hughes or is this temporary or do they not really have a plan yet and are just reacting because they know Wang needs to throw more in order to sustain his progress from rehab?
Wang is back! Hell yeah.
Wang against Texas?
Wow, this is going to be a disaster.
They should have waited until the Nationals series
Wang back in the rotation tomorrow Phil to the pen.
Brandon.. Hughes took your spot WANG !-Right, with that five ERA of his.
Wang was injured, now he’s back and I’m glad.
Great news on Hughes. I know he told Joe G he would rather go to the BP then get sent down.
I don’t like this decision whatsoever. I don’t think Wang is ready and I think it’s a terrible move putting Phil in the pen. Once again, this kid’s development gets curtailed. The Yankees have NO clue whatsoever about how to develop young pitching – they continue to make the wrong moves with Phil. Ugh – nice going, Yankees. Poor Phil. I HATE HATE this move with him. I can’t believe he’s not being sent down.
“Stupid.. if that’s true b/c Hughes earned his spot.”
Come on, man. Wang earned it going 54 and 23 since ‘05.
Hey did anyone hear bout Wang?
i would skip wang in boston
Pete: Francesa said Cabrera is starting…who’s right?
Very happy the Yankees did the right thing in giving Wang a chance to start.
DMan, they’ll need to try him eventually. Might as well be vs. some good competition.
DMAN
Because the nationals don’t have a good offense
Joba should start in every series against the Redsox
Wang had better put up some good numbers.
So Hughes pitches his heart out, improves in every start, the team rallies around him and we’re WINNING… and they disrupt the chemistry by tweaking the rotation?
Dumb, dumb move. Sends a bad message to the rest of the team for them to this while we’re winning and while the kid is pitching well.
Well now we will see if Wang steps up and pitches well. No he doesn’t have to pitch a shutout, but I have no issues in saying, I expect 6+ innnings of 3 run ball.
Wang made no bones about feeling he should be back in the rotation, now he is, he’d better keep the teams in the games and not go out there nad lay eggs with flat sinkers after flat sinkers. Then they’ll be another therapy session about “What is wrong with Wang” Now is time he steps up and pitch like a front line starter.
“UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Wang starts tomorrow. More to come later. Hughes to bullpen. ”
Wait a minute… I was told by some posters here that this would never happen.
so I’m guessing Cashman was on here today monitoring the debate
Welcome back, Wanger
OH LOOOOOOOOOORD! where do I begin?!?!?!?
Joe Girardi was just WAITING for Melky to get injured so he could replace him with his pet!! MELKY SHOULD not be sitting! I anyone should be sitting it is Swisher!! What is this?
And Hughes to the pen?? Are you kidding me? I NEED A DRINK!
Hughes in the 8th inning please !
Panic move by the Yankees – two stints in the pen and they think Wang is ready? They’ve dug their own grave. If Wang blows up, they have to leave him in the rotation. I can’t be more annoyed with them. Unbelievable.
I’m sure there’s some sort of reason to this. I just what to know what.
It does allow the Yanks to control both Chamberlain’s and Hughes’ innings. If Hughes goes to Scranton, he uses up his innings in the minors and when Chamberlain’s innings are used, they have nobody else to turn to. Hughes gets to sit at the knee of the Great Rivera and learn something.
With the way the team is playing and the streak they’re on, it’s hard to complain about things, including decision-making. It’s good to know that some on this blog eagerly accept the challenge.
On another note, we’ve got tickets to tomorrow afternoon’s game (part of our anniversary celebration). I had thought it would be CC, but CMW is a worthy substitute. Looking forward to it. In the meantime, looking forward to Andy keeping things going.
Stanley, he was not improving ever start…he took a step back last start with four runs in five innings. I love the move.
Man, I hope Hughes is only going to the pen until Wang proves he can get the job done. Assuming Wang doesnt struggle, Hughes needs to go back to AAA to get his innings in.
I would rather they send Phil to AAA and let him get work from there rather than the pen. Not a happy camper right now, but I guess we just have to see how this goes.
Why is Melky sitting?
“Sends a bad message to the rest of the team for them to this while we’re winning and while the kid is pitching well.”
What kind of message does it send when you put a two-time 19-game winner to the bullpen?!??! Geez…
“Wang had better put up some good numbers.”
No more excuses, he better perform.
it will work out fine – maybe not today maybe not tomorrow but soon and for the rest of our lives.
“HUGHES TO BULLPEN!!!!
WOW!!!
Shocking, shocking, shocking! But I like it.
”
I agree. I’ve been hoping they’d put Hughes in the BP, and be creative about getting him innings AND helping the big league team. Hopefully everything goes according to plan.
Does anyone know the record for consecutive multi games….Jeter is at 7!
Joe from Long Island, it’s gonna be Pettite pitching. Today’s game will almost certainly be rained out.
omg the yankees season is over…they are 12 games out of first place and shelly duncan is pitching tonight!!!…what is wrong with you people
Me thinks that Hughes will stack with Wang on this start and possibly the next, and then had back to Scranton.
If we move everyone up a day its gonna be Wang CC Joba in Boston right?
Betsy,
Exhale. Its the right move. They need to know if Wang is back. If he is back, he’s a front of the rotation starter.
Phil is not at this point in his career. Simple as that.
As far as putting him in the bullpen….I suspect that will be for as long as it takes Bruney to get back.
Betsy, you have to think – and I say (write?) this with respect – that Girardi and Eiland have a clue to what they’re doing. They didn’t just get their jobs by going to Monster.com or something.
that would be consecutive multi hit games….Jeter is at 7….
Hughes did not take a step back in his last start. A couple of hits in the 3 run inning were off of very good pitches. That stuff happens. And the 4th run scored because of a misplay in CF. Every game is not going to be a gem.
Why don’t you twits wait and hear why the switch was made.
I agree with this move 100%
I’ll say it again, you put your best 5 arms who can get through a lineup more than once in the rotation. The rest in the BP.
Wang >> Hughes based on past experience. The Yanks feel Wang is ready, I hope they’re right. If not, Hughes is still here.
WANGER!!!!!!!!!!!1 I guest the meet and greet did wonders.
It was the Free Wanger shirts that did it, i’m sure
Again, lets be fair and not kill wang if he gives it 4-5 runs. He earned he’s way back. I wish nothing but the best for him.
Plus, phil hughes has said that would be open to moving ti the bullpen, so his supporters need to take a chill pill and not over-react. This is great news
Hughes in the bullpen makes absolutely no sense. Eventually one of the starters is going to miss a start or 2(Pett or AJ take your pick) then his arm won’t be built up for 100 pitches when they need him to start. This is a move that a team makes when they are desperate for a decent arm in the pen. It is not like Hughes is lights out that you know he can give you 1 or 2 shut out innings out of the pen.
vin, Friday will be fascinating (today’s game will almost certainly be rained out).
i realllyyyyyyy doubt hughes is stayin in the pen…they probaly just want him there incase wang falters…once wang is back in the flow hughes will be sent down
JNLA–
I’m pretty sure damon had 8 earlier this season. Not sure what the record is, but the number 12 seems to be jumping out at me for some reason
This was the 2nd best option behind keeping Hughes in and moving Joba to the pen.
Here’s the thing: For those that wanted Joba to remain in the rotation – the same reasons hold true for leaving Hughes in there as well. Both are potential future front line starters that should be developing and helping the club at the major league level.
However, Joba has proven that not only could he succeed in that role – but he could dominate in it. He has the mentality to do it, and he has experience as well. To mess with Hughes makes little sense.
“It does allow the Yanks to control both Chamberlain’s and Hughes’ innings. If Hughes goes to Scranton, he uses up his innings in the minors and when Chamberlain’s innings are used, they have nobody else to turn to. Hughes gets to sit at the knee of the Great Rivera and learn something.”
Uh oh, this is like the 3rd day in a row that I’m agreeing with you. I may be in more trouble than I originally thought.
Rachel, he’s in the pen just in case someone can’t start on short notice so that they don’t have to phone Scranton.
Mike Ashmore has a picture of Montero at Trenton today. I have to say he is adorable..lol
http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/
Thw CMW start makes me wonder if the NYY have any idea what they are doing with that situation. Not 24 hrs ago Joe said nothing has changed. Today a different story. I have no problem with CMW starting but make up your mind already.
PH to the pen only works if they get him a lot of consistent work. The thing holding back his progress is the fact that he has missed a lot of time the last 2 years. He needs to pitch a lot. Maybe they are keeping him around in case CMW isn’t ready. If he collects cobwebs in the pen send him to SWB so he can pitch.
If the Sox can go back and forth with Masterson, then why can’t Hughes handle it?
If a player gets send down, how many days must pass for a team to be able to call up that player again? without anyone going on the DL?
Because if Wang implodes again in his next starts, you will have Hughes right here to take over again.
But Mike Francesa claimed that Phil Youuuuse is a starting pitchah?
And what if Wang doesn’t blow up? I don’t know why some of you think this guy can’t pitch.
He’s a two time 19 game winner and has been one of the best starting pitchers in the AL prior to his injury.
In each of his last 3 appearances, he has gotten better. The last time out, he looked like the old Wang.
When that happens, you HAVE TO put him back in the rotation.
Geez Louise people, think a little bit.
Wang back in the rotation makes the Yankees a better team.
Ok guys, enough of the Wang/Hughes talk
Let’s go back to discussing A-Rod and Jeter’s love life.
It doesnt matter how creative they get with his innings in the pen. He will not hit his innings target if he’s a reliever the rest of the year. For that reason alone, I think this is temporary. I sure hope so. he needs to go down to AAA
vin, I agree too.
Evan, Hughes to the pen is not a permanent move. When Pettite is gone or if and when someone goes down Hughes will start.
Hughes is in the pen as Wang’s caddy.
If Wang explodes again, we have Hughes.
Nothing more, stop freaking out.
CountryClub, it is almost certainly temporary.
surprised by the news, but am very happy to read that Wang is healthy and returning to the starting rotation. having him placed in between Andy & C.C. is a fine it. breaks up the 2 consecutive lefties. most teams would prefer not to have 2 consecutive lefties start.
further proof that Joba is NOT going to the pen anytime soon.
if Andy has more back trouble tonight, safe bet that Aceves is well rested and ready to take on the long-man job tonight.
“I don’t like this decision whatsoever. I don’t think Wang is ready and I think it’s a terrible move putting Phil in the pen. Once again, this kid’s development gets curtailed. The Yankees have NO clue whatsoever about how to develop young pitching – they continue to make the wrong moves with Phil. Ugh – nice going, Yankees. Poor Phil. I HATE HATE this move with him. I can’t believe he’s not being sent down.”
Betsy, many a major league pitchers have started in the pen, Santana comes to mind right away. That is the way it used to be where guys got called up worked in the pen and then into the rotation.
Hey Pete-\
On another note not sure it was intentional but really like the UPDATES at the top rather than at the bottom of the post. Makes it much easier to see newer news first.
Some people here are acting like putting Phil in the bullpen is going to cause a tear in the time/space continuum and ruin the Yanks chemistry as a whole.
It is NOT that serious. The guy’s not even 23 and moving him to the pen for now might not be the worst thing in the world for him in the long run.
Also, does this mean Hughes will be in the 7th/8th inning or will he be pitching like Wang did once or twice a week?
If he is not pitching the 7th and 8th than that is weakness is not yet resolved.
Again, this makes little sense. Joba should have been the one to take the bullpen plunge.
Big fan of the move, Hughes to the pen will not hurt him, pitchers used to do it all the time. I’m against Joba going to the pen THEN to the rotation because if he goes to the pen he stays there, at least Hughes will come back to the rotation without debate.
BJK
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
If the Sox can go back and forth with Masterson, then why can’t Hughes handle it?
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I totally agree.
Hughes won’t be in the pen once Bruney and Marte get back.
He will go back to AAA and work on honing his secondary pitches, and be back even better either next year, or in the September bullpen.
Some people are overrating Hughes performance so far.. His only really good start was against Texas.. He had another decent start where he made it to the 6th inning against Detroit.
Every other start has been under 6 innings.
That’s 5 of 7 starts where we needed the bullpen for at least 4 innings in his games.
I know he’s young, that’s great… and he’ll probably get better BUT this isn’t about Phil Hughes, this is about the 2009 NY Yankees and winning a championship.
Scott, that is true too.
It’ll be interesting to see if they give Hughes important outs.
Brandon.. Hughes was robbed !
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
“Wang had better put up some good numbers.”
No more excuses, he better perform.
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He’d better…or, what? Firing squad? This year, you can’t run Hughes and Chamberlain out of innings at the same time. Don’t forget…they’ll need someone to take some of Wang’s innings, too, because he isn’t going 7-8 innings starting tomorrow. They can hope that he gets his 5-6 effective innings in during his first 3 starts and build it from there.
Perhaps they knew all along what they wanted to do with Wang and didn’t want to tell the media yesterday. Wouldn’t be unusual for that to take place.
Either way, its the right move. If Wang can’t pitch, Hughes goes back in. If he is back, it makes the Yankees a better team.
They will have 4 starters capable of going 7 a night and Joba is the 5th starter. Can’t do much better than that.
Have you guys seen our bullpen?
Who do you want pitching late in close games… Coke, Veras, Robertson, Tomko…… or Hughes?
A no brainer.
Coney has been talking about Hughes to the pen for awhile now. Pitchers used to come up, go to the pen and earn there way into the rotation. Not saying that Hughes needs to “earn” his spot, but this is a good thing.
wang better step up because 2 bad starts & he is in the pen for a long time.
hughes will be breathing down his neck.
I completely agree with the move. Wang needs and deserves to be in the starting rotation.
Hughes either goes to Scranton or the BP and we need him in the bullpen and he probably still hits 150 innings this year when Joba needs a break (or he goes to Scranton when BP gets healthy).
CC / Wang / AJ / Joba / Pettite is sick. Hughes will get his chance.
What Phil Hughes are some of you seeing? This guy has been a Yankee starting pitcher since April of 2007 and had TONS of hype before his actual debut. In that span of time, he hasn’t shown much of anything except that he can pitch in Texas.
I think this is a smart approach by the Yankees. Hughes only has so many options. Wait until Wang proves he’s a quality starter again. At that point you can send Hughes back to AAA. Then as originally planned, Hughes pitches in AAA til either someone goes on the DL or in September when the roster expands.
The plan makes sense. Hopefully Wang does well. I’m sure he gets a few starts. 1 start good or bad won’t tell the whole story. When there is more clarity with Wang they will be able to give Hughes a more definitive role. Then, he’ll get his innings up.
SJ44,
I have no problem with Wang taking his spot back. If he’s right he’s the 2nd best starter on the team.
But Hughes doesnt belong in the pen any more than Joba does. Like I said earlier, hopefully its just until Wang makes a successful start.
Hopefully, Hughes to the BP is temporary. He belongs in the minors where he can start every fifth game.
Um is something wrong with CC?
“Again, lets be fair and not kill wang if he gives it 4-5 runs. He earned he’s way back. I wish nothing but the best for him.”
Agreed – CC stunk up the month of April, AJ blows 6 run leads but they get a pass? Pitchers WILL have bad games. With tomorrow’s start THIS is the beginning of the season for Wang.
Not too sad about Hughes, he’s still in the majors ain’t he? pitching out of the pen won’t curtail anything. Didn’t hurt Santana.
vin
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
“It does allow the Yanks to control both Chamberlain’s and Hughes’ innings. If Hughes goes to Scranton, he uses up his innings in the minors and when Chamberlain’s innings are used, they have nobody else to turn to. Hughes gets to sit at the knee of the Great Rivera and learn something.”
Uh oh, this is like the 3rd day in a row that I’m agreeing with you. I may be in more trouble than I originally thought.
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LMAO. No doubt you’ll be banned before gametime.
Hguhes is not in the pen to fix the pen’s problems, he’s there while they wait and see if Wang really is all right. If he is, Hughes will go down to Trenton.
BREAKING NEWS: WANG TO PITCH TOMORROW, HUGHES TO THE PEN
“it will work out fine – maybe not today maybe not tomorrow but soon and for the rest of our lives.”
Someday I’ll understand that.
Sweet?
“Have you guys seen our bullpen?
Who do you want pitching late in close games… Coke, Veras, Robertson, Tomko…… or Hughes?
A no brainer.”
Answer: JOBA
“They will have 4 starters capable of going 7 a night and Joba is the 5th starter. Can’t do much better than that.”
Exactly.
Watch, this will start a Hughes to the pen debate to go along with the Joba to the pen debate. Sure hope not. They are both good young starters. Many good things ahead for the both of them and the team.
Scorpio, Wang needs to prove he can pitch sucessfully again.
If he’s bad tomorrow, we’re back to square one.
Reyes has had a setback and is going to NY to get more examinations. Mets are in trouble.
Nothing wrong with CC. They want to separate the leftys.
reyes had a setback.
pulled himself out of minor league rehab game
So who’s playing center? Gardner or Cabrera?
My question is, why is CC getting pushed back?
Please God tell me there’s not an inury here.
Im confused wasnt CC starting tomorrow?
Im confused wasnt CC starting tomorrow?
PHIL YOUGHES IS A STARTIN PITCHA!
No matter what move the Yanks make there is always somebody not happy or crticizing it.
francessa saying the mets have to go shopping.
HUGHES AND JOBA SHOULD BOTH BE IN THE PEN
Joba isn’t going to the Pen. He’s a starter. In the playoffs he will be in the Pen.
So does this mean we will have 2 long men? Or is Aceves going to be a 7th inning guy? Maybe trade bait. Whos on first?
I’m happy that Wang is back in the rotation, he deserves it.
I’m a bit annoyed that Hughes is in the bullpen, he needs to be starting every 5 days. Needs at least 150 IP this year. Right now he’s at 54 IP (AAA + MLB). He can hit that 150 IP mark but he can’t stay in the bullpen for too long…
“UPDATE, 4:49 p.m.: Hughes is a temporary bullpen fix, Cashman said. He’ll be a starter long term.”
I think the Yanks made the Wang/Hughes move to make their fanbase happy. They’re winning too much and you folks NEED to have something to whine about.
btw – Mekly grabbed his shoulder when he got to fist base after his single last night.
I’m calling it right now. He’s sitting because of his shoulder.
UPDATE, 4:49 p.m.: Hughes is a temporary bullpen fix, Cashman said. He’ll be a starter long term.
WANG TO START!!! Finally Girardi and Cashman realize what idiots they’ve been. Although i still don’t agree with putting Hughes in the pen. Send him back down to the minors and maintain his arm strength!! They don’t want hughes pitch against boston and need WANG to get at least one full start before facing boston!
I guess the good thing about keeping Hughes in the majors is he can work on his pitches with Eiland and then see how he improves against major leaguers. Instead of facing the AAAA players in AAA and not getting anywhere because they swing at anything in sight. I would assume once Wang is settled in and pitching like Wang, Hughes will go back to AAA to build up his arm again for when they need him.
Maybe they don’t want Hughes lined up to have to pitch in Boston next week.
There’s no way this game is getting played tonight anyway… so Wang will start Friday vs. Tampa and Price, CC on Saturday
So CC is getting 1 weeks rest… UGH
I think 2 long men who can pitch in any situation is much more effective than 2 guys who only pitch the 7th and the 8th
“actually – I went googling for an SPBA article and his name turned up….there were some big names in that league. Color me surprised.”
DT-
just on the team i was on managed by clete boyer:
graig nettles
al oliver
hal mcrae
cesar cedeno
jose cruz
rn washington
jerry royster
joachim andujar
tippy martinez
willie mays aikens
al cowens
ross grimsley
omar moreno
ron leflore
on that link you provided, it mentioned danny boone . danny stayed at my place in sarasota when he was in big league camp with the orioles in 1991. no one wanted to catch him because of the knuckleball so he asked if i could catch him and the next thing i knew my locker was next to ripken’s. now that was a fun few weeks. frank robinson did not like the knuckle ball though and sent danny to triple a. he quit rather than go to triple a. that was disappointing.
Wang deserves the chance to start but he has to prove that he is reliable!
“Would players who cheat by using PEDs also be willing to cheat by telling each other what was coming?”
These are the kind of stupid statemnets and inferences make me beleive what GB7 wrote a couple of days back about the mediots which upset Pete.
You guys are head cases. You act like you just heard that MLB passed a new rule that says that the team that’s currently in 1st place has to switch places with the last place team. This is not a big deal. Hughes will be in the pen for the short term. Calm down.
UPDATE, 4:49 p.m.: Hughes is a temporary bullpen fix, Cashman said. He’ll be a starter long term.
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This doesnt really answer the question. Temporary as in the rest of this season? Or temporary as in a couple of weeks?
what happens if tonights game gets rained out?
cc gets pushed to saturday?
This move makes a lot of sense to me. Give Wang a chance to start, let Hughes keep pitching against major league opposition.
I like Hughes, but I’m not his mom. Here’s hoping Wang pitches great tomorrow!
They won’t NEED to move Joba to the pen because of innings. They want him to throw 150+ this year. Through two months, he was at 40-something. He’s not even on pace to reach 150. So the idea that Phil will be in the pen until Joba has reached his innings doesn’t make much sense.
If oyu back away and look at the “stuff” of the six guys I think you would conclude Hughes is the guy who should be in the pen if anyone had to be. I don’t know how quickly he warms up or how resilient his arm is, but potentially he could help there.
Personally, I would prefer he go to Scranton and work on that changeup. But once again they didn’t ask me.
I think Hughes is in the bullpen until Bruney gets back. Or, if Wang has a short outing, Hughes could give them innings.
Phil Hughes saved the Yankees season two years ago out of the bullpen in the ALDS against the Indians.
Its not some out of the universe move.
I’d guess Phil would rather work out of the bullpen than go back to Scranton.
Either way, I like the move. They need Wang in this rotation.
Its gives them more length and quality and I’m not a big fan of having two young guys in the rotation at the same time.
Didn’t work last year when they had a better bullpen than they have this year.
“Wang deserves the chance to start but he has to prove that he is reliable!”
Haha I think he proved that when he won 19 games 2 years in a row. He has to prove he’s healthy, because if he is he’s an ace.
I’ll take it. Gotta know if Wang’s back and best way to do it is a start. Phil will long-man it for a bit, then go back down to AAA for steady work in the best case scenario.
What does “temporary bullpen fix” mean?
Is that the same as “in the bullpen until Wang proves he is 100%”? Or he is in the pen until Bruney comes back?
Can we hear that CC is ok please!
Hughes is probably shadowing Wang in the pen so if things don’t work out they don’t burn a pen.
Wang has a few good starts and Hughes goes back to AAA.
Like I said, Hughes is in the pen until Bruney and Marte get settled back in.
Then he’s off to AAA to get his innings and be back in September.
This is a good plan overall.
The thing I don’t like is that a game against the Rangers at Yankee Stadium is probably the least ideal time to put him back in the rotation. It has the potential to be VERY ugly and then what do you do?
You guys are head cases. You act like you just heard that MLB passed a new rule that says that the team that’s currently in 1st place has to switch places with the last place team. This is not a big deal. Hughes will be in the pen for the short term. Calm down.
Finally a rational post.
According to Weather.com there’s only a 25% chance of rain between 7 & 9. So tonight isnt a lost cause.
So if Hughes pitches lights out in the pen, dialing it up to 95 and getting some key K’s and outs…what do people complain about then? That he is retarding his growth and should be demoted?
Plenty of pitchers that Hughes could only hope of being started out in the pen.
Joba in the bullpen is not the answer. He’s a better starting pitcher than Hughes. Why does he need to to go the bullpen.
Go back and spend time with Diet Coke. That would be a dumb move by the Yankees.
If Wang goes out and spits the bit tomorrow night Hughes is staying up on the roster to take his spot back from him. That’s why they don’t send Hughes down.
If they sent him down they would need an injury to bring him back up sooner if Wang proves he’s still struggling as a starter.
All I’ve got to say about this is Wang better be right again. We cannot afford a 1-2 inning debacle that will scorch the pen with games coming up against some of the better teams in the league.
I agree he deserves a chance to show he’s back, but he still has to show he can go deep into a game and pitch effectively this season.
I think if the team were sure Wang was back they would send Hughes down to start in AAA.
I have no problem with Hughes in the pen for now. He just dominates AAA hitters anyway, so give him a chance to learn how to pitch to major league hitters.
I’d rather him in the rotation, but it’s better than AAA for his development I think.
I have no problem with Hughes in the pen for now. He just dominates AAA hitters anyway, so give him a chance to learn how to pitch to major league hitters.
I’d rather him in the rotation, but it’s better than AAA for his development I think.
I like Phil volunteering to go to the bullpen as it is a sign that he is willing to help the Yankees out anyway he can. I actually respect that in a player to be honest with you.
If Phil learned anything from Joba – he’ll try not to be lights out in the bullpen. Don’t give those WFAN media heads any more ideas.
Bob(The Original)-Start Hughes.
CC is fine. If he wasnt Hughes wouldnt be going to the pen.
“Can we hear that CC is ok please!”
he is fine this has been established
If the game gets rained out tonight… then what?
Do they push everyone back? That means CC on 1 weeks rest if he goes Saturday
SJ44, you’re 100% right about the Joba to the pen talk.
This solves Wang to the rotation.
What are we doing with the 7th and 8th inning for the next month? Do these games not count?
Who really thinks Bruney and Marte are coming back and solving our problems?
Who really thinks a trade (a la Marte last year) is the answer.
It isn’t. Our bullpen remains a major weakness and must be addressed. Maybe Cashman should get to work and stop greeting fans outside the Great Hall.
“If Phil learned anything from Joba – he’ll try not to be lights out in the bullpen. Don’t give those WFAN media heads any more ideas.”
Francessa might have to change his tone to “YUSE IN THE 8TH!!1!”
Wang is BACCCCCCCK!
BBFan
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
“Would players who cheat by using PEDs also be willing to cheat by telling each other what was coming?”
These are the kind of stupid statemnets and inferences make me beleive what GB7 wrote a couple of days back about the mediots which upset Pete.
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Shame!!! Shame!!! You’re going to the “timeout corner” for mentioning that. No ban, since it’s your first offense.
Ok thanks for the explanations, I understand the Hughes to the bullpen move better now. I’m fine with him in there until Bruney gets back. At the very least we have another reliable pitcher in the pen for a few weeks.
I feel bad for Phil (he’s probably my favorite pitcher on the team) because he really has pitched very well. Outside of that one game he’s been very solid. He’s showing a lot of improvement this year and it’s exciting to watch. He didn’t deserve to lose his job but Wang is the better pitcher at this point in time.
CC is fine. They are just breaking up the lefties. Relax.
Montero at AA? Maybe we see him in ST next year. I’m excited about the kid.
Suppose Hughes in short relief turns in Joba-like relief appearances?
Then it’s Hughes to the pen – he’s too valuable to start!
So they’re putting Wang in the rotation against the flyball hitting masher-team, not the speedy hit-and-run team (Rays)? This means it’s Wang-CC-Joba in Bahstin and AJ-Andy-Wang for the series against the Mess. Thinking I’d prefer CC to start over Wang tomorrow, get CC to start against the Mess and the Sawx.
“Why do the likes of Biel, Kate Hudson, Scarlet etc. get overrated yet ones like Minka and Minillo are underrated?”
easy, without Jeter, i’ve heard of the overrated ones. without Jeter, i don’t know if i’ve ever heard of Minka or Minillo.
Giradi said that he pushed cc back so that he could split of the lefties.
Weather looks awful for tonight, I doubt the Yankees get this game in.
Wow -
Just skimming, quick in and out of the house right now. People need to relax.
All will work out.
Ideally, many of us thought when Wang went back into the rotation Hughes would go to SWB. Well, two things. One, there is no guarantee to the outcome of Wang’s game tomorrow. Two, I remember that Phil himself wanted to stay in the majors and go to the pen. If that’s the end up, that’s the end up.
The third thing is, this rotation is out of whack anyway. Slipping Wang in before CC isn’t a bad thing and it doesn’t necessarily mean anything about CC; if it did, the news would have been Wang to start, but not Hughes to pen.
Oh, and fourth thing – you can never believe everything the Yankees say about their plans. Don’t you all know that already??
Catch ya later.
Should be interesting to see if Phil gains a few extra mph on his fastball working out of the pen.
With his improved curve and burgeoning cutter, he will be no treat to hit if his gas has a little extra boost.
For what it’s worth I think CC’s being pushed back simply because they don’t want Wang starting against the Rays or the Sox just yet.
How many starts does Wang get?
If he gets lit up against the Rays, does he get his next start in Boston? Does Hughes get it?
francessa ” big news for the yankees,wang goes tomorrow.big news for the mets,reyes reinjurs himself,out for a while”
Evan
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Our bullpen remains a major weakness and must be addressed. Maybe Cashman should get to work and stop greeting fans outside the Great Hall.
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You’re so right. I’m sure Cashman is just sitting around playing computer solitare all day and has no clue that there is a bullpen issue.
Shut up fool.
Rebecca,
Well, if it rains tonight, then Wang will be slated to start against both the Rays and Sox LOL
So it may not work out for the best.
I can agree with this as long as Hughes in the ‘pen is not a season long move. Wang needs to get a start or his conditioning will start to regress to where it was at the start of the season. 2-3 innings once a week is doing nothing for him. Even as it stands now, he probably won’t be able to go more than 85 pitches or so (if that) tomorrow since he hasn’t started for so long.
I am fine with Hughes as a reliever for the next couple of weeks in case Wang still doesn’t have it or someone gets hurt, but ultimately he should go back to AAA if the other 5 in the rotation can hold their own. Phil needs a full year as a starter, finishing this season as a long reliever will not benefit anyone in the long run.
“If Phil learned anything from Joba – he’ll try not to be lights out in the bullpen. Don’t give those WFAN media heads any more ideas.”
I hope he does to prove how stupid it is.
Correct me if I am wrong they must have known about this move last night why else would they have Wang throw in the bullpen so maybe they just had him do his regular bullpen work last night once they saw AJ was in the clear
Evan
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Our bullpen remains a major weakness and must be addressed. Maybe Cashman should get to work and stop greeting fans outside the Great Hall.
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LOL!
CC will now start the 1st game against Boston and against the Mets. If he pitched tomorrow he would miss the Sox series. So maybe that had something to do with it and it also breaks up the lefties.
5 STAGES OF JOBA/BULLPEN GRIEF
Step 1: DENIAL – “Joba won’t be a starter for long! He can’t pitch longer than 5 innings! This is not a first place team without Joba in the pen!”
Step 2: ANGER – “So what if Joba proved he can throw 8 frickin innings and be dominant? That doesn’t solve our bullpen issues! This front office is the dumbest on the planet!”
Step 3: BARGAINING – “OK, Joba obviously has proven he can be a dominant starter, but why does he have to be one NOW? Why can’t we put him in the bullpen, just for this season, and THEN try him out next year as a starter?”
Step 4: DEPRESSION – “This sucks. Our season is over because I can’t trust anyone in the 8th inning not named Joba.”
Step 5: ACCEPTANCE – “Hmm. Joba just struck out another 12 Red Sox at Fenway. And our bullpen is looking a bit better now that they’ve found their groove and our starters are consistently pitching deeper into games. Fine. I’ll drop it. For now…”
Bob (The Original),
Hughes pitching to MLBers is better for his development. I agree with that. But pitching 2 – 4 innings a week is not going to get him to where he needs to be. And then we’ll be talking about him having a 150 inning limit in 2010 too.
Anyway, I’ll wait to see what happens from here. I just cant imagine they’ll leave him in the pen all year. So I’m going to stop commenting on it until they prove me wrong.
It’s way too soon to speculate on what happens to Hughes.
When Bruney gets back, I suspect it will be Veras or Tomko who gets the disappointing interview with Girardi.
Hughes could pitch great in relief, and shore up our pen like Joba did in 2007.
Or Wang could pitch poorly, and Hughes could be back in the rotation.
It is just too soon to say.
And, if Hughes is lights out deadly from the pen, the talk shows and boards will be flooded with “Make Hughes the permanent 8th inning man and successor to Rivera.”
“Perhaps they knew all along what they wanted to do with Wang and didn’t want to tell the media yesterday. Wouldn’t be unusual for that to take place.”
sj44-
maybe they saw the blog today after pete’s post about wang and did not want to face the wrath of the blog.
well, it could have happened.
all kidding aside, the only way to get 6 starters is to start wang and have hughes at some point go back to scranton. hughes will get plenty of opportunity to come back up when he goes down. if he doesn’t it’ll mean the yankee starters are all healthy which means the yankees will be in very good shape and likely running away with things.
it’s smart to have hughes for a few starts backing up wang just in case. there’s really no way to tell how wang will pitch at first. hopefully well, but it’s nice knowing hughes is there is needed.
The thing I don’t like about this move is that Hughes really looked like he was getting into a groove. He was challenging hitters with his fastball (which was hitting 95) and becoming more efficient because of it. He was striking guys out with his nasty curve in the dirt and he only walked 3 guys total in his last 3 starts.
Being that Girardi only trusts Aceves and Rivera in the BP, be prepared to see Hughes in the 7th/8th. What a strange turn of events.
the yankees do not wan’t hughes to face boston.
“How many starts does Wang get?
If he gets lit up against the Rays, does he get his next start in Boston?”
Ofcourse he does, he’s won 19 games like everyone saids, he better bring it. It’s that simple, earn your spot.
Another bad thing – now if a pitcher goes down, Phil will not be able to step in as he’s going to need to stretch out. One more -if the pitchers continue to pitch well, Phil will not get enough consistent work. I have no clue as to what the Yankees were thinking. I’ve rarely, if ever, been this angry at the organization.
No kidding, Brian – ya think Phil is a starter long term? This completely messes the kid up – he can’t develop his pitches and he won’t pitch enough. Of course, I don’t thing Wang is ready (based on two little stints in relief), so I guess he can relieve Wang.
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Gammons was watching last nights game with showalter, and he said that showalter predicted that padilla would hit tex.
What are we doing with the 7th and 8th inning for the next month? Do these games not count?
Who really thinks Bruney and Marte are coming back and solving our problems?
Who really thinks a trade (a la Marte last year) is the answer.
It isn’t. Our bullpen remains a major weakness and must be addressed. Maybe Cashman should get to work and stop greeting fans outside the Great Hall.
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So the Guys on the DL aren’t the answer, and a trade isn’t the answer.
So what do you want Cashman do do exactly??
Are you suggesting HE start working out of the pen?
I’ve been excited for weeks because I’m going to tomorrow’s game and I looked at how the numbers shake out and knew CC would be starting that game. I’ve been telling people that I’m gonna get to see CC pitch unless they mess with the rotation in anyway….and we get within a day, and there ya go. Why didn’t they just keep CC on his regular turn and have Wang start friday in place of Hughes…? Doesn’t that make more sense? Don’t the Yankees care at all about what I want!!?!?!?!?!!? Oh well seeing Wang is good too….assuming he’s really gotten it together.
egawa hughes has been more then ok for a 22 year old starter…..
this was the right move. if wang is back to being wang then hughes will either stay in the pen or go to swb and continue to pitch…
So when does Hughes make his 8th inning debut ?
“Montero at AA? Maybe we see him in ST next year. I’m excited about the kid.”
He was at spring training this year…
SJ, I think Wang belongs in the rotation – in no way was he auditioning for his job. I don’t think he’s ready after two bullpen stints – and what do you do if he blows up? The Yankees will have to leave him in there. I don’t know what concerns me more, Wang not being ready just yet or the fact that Phil is now going to be a reliever for the rest of the year. Well, more innings limitations for him next year…..oh well, right?
When Joba was in the bullpen the Yankees created the Joba Rules…are they now going to create Phil Rules???
“Another bad thing – now if a pitcher goes down, Phil will not be able to step in as he’s going to need to stretch out. One more -if the pitchers continue to pitch well, Phil will not get enough consistent work. I have no clue as to what the Yankees were thinking. I’ve rarely, if ever, been this angry at the organization.
No kidding, Brian – ya think Phil is a starter long term? This completely messes the kid up – he can’t develop his pitches and he won’t pitch enough. Of course, I don’t thing Wang is ready (based on two little stints in relief), so I guess he can relieve Wang.”
If they think the pen is fine, and Wang returns to form, he goes back to AAA to hone his starter stuff.
No need to be angry. There is a plan in place.
Hughes is in the pen until Cashman can find someone else who can get outs late in games
“All I’ve got to say about this is Wang better be right again. We cannot afford a 1-2 inning debacle that will scorch the pen with games coming up against some of the better teams in the league”
This was what had me concerned about Wang, he didn’t just lose and pitched poorly say 5 innings, 4 or 5 runs. He pitched 1,2 innings gave up 7,8 runs and then left an entire game for the team to pitch through.
Like I said I don’t want to hear any excuse he made it clear that he is a starter and wants to start, now he is back in the rotation and I am not willing to sell him short with excuses. This is about performance, step up and pitch like a top of the rotation pitcher Wang, to demand any less of him would be pretty weak on our part. Wang isn’t Hughes we expect much more from him, so mediocre starts are not going to cut it He has to pitch like an ace.
For the love of _ _ _ can people stop complaining about the move. The yankees simply cannot win with some of you. PHIL HUGHES said that he would not mind going to the Pen. if he doesn’t care, why should we???
This is ridiculous!1!11!! If Joe Torre was here we’d have Jobber in the pen, Hughes sent down to learn how to throw with both arms like Venditte and Wang would throw literal bowling balls!
Cashman should trade Ryan Pope, Justin Snyder, and Kanekoa Teixeira to the Dodgers for Bronxton! Then Jobber can take the 8th inning and Bronxton can pitch the 7th!
Fire Girardi!
Gates June 3rd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
How many starts does Wang get?
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Hopefully 35 a year for the next 10-15
They could probably get 6 innings of this game in between 7-9 PM
So get an early lead and protect it. Easier said than done with Andy on the mound against this righty power Texas lineup.
If the Padilla release is true, then you know it came from toough guy Nolan Ryan himself….Padilla was there when The Express took over baseball operations…….Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup ) that’s an impressive cast of charcters on that club……Phillip to the pen is the right move, besides he asked for that and the club acknowledged that request…..The Wang-Man’s return will help the team, providing he’s the Wanger once again…..
Wave, I have to disagree with you. Even if Hughes is lights out in the bullpen and Wang is amazing as a starter, Hughes should still be sent down. Phil NEEDS to hit 150 innings this year and stay on a regular schedule of starting every 5 days. His development was screwed by injuries in recent years, keeping him in the pen for the rest of 2009 would be a TERRIBLE idea.
“Wednesday night: Showers with a possible thunderstorm early, then variable clouds overnight with still a chance of showers. Low 56F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%.”
I think they’re gonna try to get the game in but it will be tricky.
Top 10 things I have learned from this blog in the last 6 mnths
1.Derek Jeter is regressing quickly. He can’t drive a pitch anymore.
2.We would be a better team without the Arod distraction.
3.Cant win without Manny.
4.This lineup cannot get it done.
5.Matsui is done.
6.Melky will never be anything other than a 4th OF.
7.Its to bad we didn’t trade Cano when he had value.
8.JD should go with Cano for a bag of balls and rosin bag.
9.Swish would have been adequate at 1 base. Money should have been used for a big time OF.
10.Jeter must be turned into a left fielder immediately if we expect to win.
Wave Your Hat June 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Suppose Hughes in short relief turns in Joba-like relief appearances?
Then it’s Hughes to the pen – he’s too valuable to start!
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LOL
Lord help us
Where is Melky Cabrera? Can some one PLEASE tell me? Just WHAT did he do to warrant being BENCHED?? I would LOVE to KNOW!
francessa ” big news for the yankees,wang goes tomorrow.big news for the mets,reyes reinjurs himself,out for a while”
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By reading some of the posts you would think that it was one of our players that got put on the shelf.
Jordan, you’re an ass.
I don’t think Hughes is really in the pen. I think he is insurance in case Wang gets lit up and has to come out early. But the Yanks can’t say that. They have to talk positively. So they say, Hughes will be in the pen for a while, but he’s a starter. Translation: As soon as we know Wang is okay, Hughes goes to SWB to start.
Our bullpen is a major weakness. Veras needs to leave, Melancon needs to be gone, we need to make some sort of trade (Street anybody?) and we have to hope Bruney is healthy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0sZ0Tg7koE
Jorge and Montero spring training.
Simple… if Wang gets lit up against the Rays, there is no way they let him start vs. Boston.
Hughes will start that game, then Wang will get a 2nd/3rd shot against the Nationals and Marlins.
That wasn’t Betsy – that’s an imposter, right?
I don’t remember exactly when, but recently someone posted the average runs scored against Yankees inning by inning, and it turned out that the 8th was actually one of the better innings, like 3rd best or so? The three problematic innings were 2nd, 4th, and 7th.
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To which I propose that LeBron James should be signed as the shutdown 7th inning option. After he recovers from that benign growth removal he just had, of course.
Isnt tomorrow cc’s turn?
Al from BK. I’d be shocked.
“So when does Hughes make his 8th inning debut ?”
Hopefully right after he finishes pitching the 6th and 7th. Need to be creative if this is going to work.
Betsy,
If he blows up, Hughes is back in the rotation. Simple enough.
What if he doesn’t though? What if he is Wang again? Doesn’t that make the Yankees a better team to have a 19 game winner who pitches 7 innings a start? Of course it does.
Why does Gammon’s sound like he’s prepping a funeral
SJ44
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
And what if Wang doesn’t blow up? I don’t know why some of you think this guy can’t pitch.
He’s a two time 19 game winner and has been one of the best starting pitchers in the AL prior to his injury.
In each of his last 3 appearances, he has gotten better. The last time out, he looked like the old Wang.
When that happens, you HAVE TO put him back in the rotation.
Geez Louise people, think a little bit.
Wang back in the rotation makes the Yankees a better team.
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Best post. So good it needs to be reposted.
Sending Hughes to the pen instead of Scranton says a lot about the lack of faith in Coke, Tomko, Veras, Robertson, Ramriez and Alba.
Aceves and Mo are really the only trustworthy guys lately. The others are hit and miss.
“Jordan, you’re an ass.”
For his sake, I hope that was sarcasm…
Brian from PA,
I have an 11 game season ticket package and for the first three games of the package A.J. Burnett has been the starter. A.J. is fun to watch and all but really? Three times in a row? Give me someone else!
rover, it sounds like you are talking about a team that’s in last place!
Woof — roll over, rover!
“It’s way too soon to speculate on what happens to Hughes.”
what’s the chance of the rotation staying healthy for the rest of the year? he’ll likely get many more starts this year.
plus there is no reason why wang won’t get back to the wang he was. if he does think of the quality depth of the rotation on this team. this team has the potential to be a powerhouse if wang comes back to his old form.
my only problem with that is proving what a doofus cashman is if the yankees win a world series. that won’t help my argument
Benny Blanco,
He doesnt care about going to the pen because he doesnt want to leave the team. Would you? But it’s the Yanks job to do what’s right for both his development and their long term investment. And I think eventually they will do that.
Someone is out to get me, I have tickets for tomorrow’s game and was really looking forward to seeing CC. I have low expectations for Wang, but I remain an OPP.
So, now they have, in order, 1-CC, 2-Joba, 3-Burnett, 4-Pettitte, and 5-Wang; and it is only the beginning of June. Makes all the debate of who is the no 2,3,4,and 5 starter to start the season inconsequential.
Also, with Wang now being the no. 5 starter, shows the Yankees think the same as many posters on this blog-that Wang is not an Ace!
well, the beat writers’ darling got his job back. good for him.
don’t blow it, big fella, or you won’t have a leg to stand on at your next arbitration hearing.
I guess I shouldn’t be but I’m shocked Phil is going to the pen.
A bit risky, IMO, given his inability to gain consistency at the MLB level.
He finally seems to be starting to settle in, and they throw a 180 at him.
I hope it works out… if it doesn’t – there will be hell to pay.
Showalter was saying HPB was Padilla’s MO on both BBT’s last night too – he completely agreed with Tex
Cashman on with Kay at 5:20
The perfect oppurtunity to tweak the rotation was after the Mets series. We had an off-day Monday before we played the Nationals and start interleague play.
Now, they are exposing their rehabbing starter against their 2 division rivals.
Brian Cashman will be on The Mkay show 5:20
Breaking news: Cashman on with Kay at 5.20pm today
“Where is Melky Cabrera? Can some one PLEASE tell me? Just WHAT did he do to warrant being BENCHED?? I would LOVE to KNOW!”
I would love to know as well, I don’t understand why Gardner is starting over Cabrera. Well at least we are beginning to know Joe’s favorites on this roster.
cashman will be on with michael kay at 5:20…sounds like must hear radio
“Gammons was watching last nights game with showalter, and he said that showalter predicted that padilla would hit tex.”
Buck managed them when they were in Texas together. Makes you wonder if it’s more a personal dynamic than baseball related.
Question for those of you who think Joba should be a starter and not a reliever just out of curiosity. What did you want the organization to do with Mariano Rivera when he was brought up years ago? He was originally a starter in the minor leagues. Did you think he have been a starter or a reliever? Just a question out of curiosity to see the different answers.
I don’t like what they are doing to Phil, any of you that did not want Joba in the bullpen, should not want Phil in the Bullpen he should be in the minors and growing as a starter 3 of his last 4 starts have been okay and even when he was getting hit he looked good. When he really develops that 3rd pith he will be a very good SP. And say Hughes goes into the bullpen and 2/3 weeks from now someone goes down you would have to transition him into the rotation and that would take time. Hughes in the minors developing as a starter, being a backup in case someone goes down is what is best for the yankees. If Joba shouldn’t be in the bullpen neither should Hughes.
hughes will get his innings some way.
he will be in the rotation when joba goes to the pen & will end up with 140 innings minimum.
“Jordan, you’re an ass.”
For his sake, I hope that was sarcasm…
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Yeah, I guess. Sounds like a troll more than anything though.
““Where is Melky Cabrera? Can some one PLEASE tell me? Just WHAT did he do to warrant being BENCHED?? I would LOVE to KNOW!”
I would love to know as well, I don’t understand why Gardner is starting over Cabrera. Well at least we are beginning to know Joe’s favorites on this roster.”
are you guys that oblivious…melky was just hurt!!! he probaly needs the day!
“Where is Melky Cabrera? Can some one PLEASE tell me? Just WHAT did he do to warrant being BENCHED?? I would LOVE to KNOW!”
He injured his shoulder recently… remember? MAYBE they are SLOWLY trying to GET him back INTO the LINEUP. GIVING him some REST might be a GOOD thing. SEE how ANNOYING the randomly CAPITALIZED words can BE?
“Sending Hughes to the pen instead of Scranton says a lot about the lack of faith in Coke, Tomko, Veras, Robertson, Ramriez and Alba.”
Yep. Hughes in relief is better than all of those clowns.
“I don’t think Hughes is really in the pen. I think he is insurance in case Wang gets lit up and has to come out early. But the Yanks can’t say that. They have to talk positively. So they say, Hughes will be in the pen for a while, but he’s a starter. Translation: As soon as we know Wang is okay, Hughes goes to SWB to start.”
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I could see that. Either way, the Yanks just gave Francessa plenty to yap about for the next few days.
I may or may not be new here
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Our bullpen is a major weakness. Veras needs to leave, Melancon needs to be gone, we need to make some sort of trade (Street anybody?) and we have to hope Bruney is healthy.
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Melancon needs to be gone? I hope that was a typo and you meant he needs to be here.
Hughes is their Guinea Pig, which I have no problem with.
Someone has to be it…
““Sending Hughes to the pen instead of Scranton says a lot about the lack of faith in Coke, Tomko, Veras, Robertson, Ramriez and Alba.”
Yep. Hughes in relief is better than all of those clowns.”
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Clay Buchholz would be good in the pen too. But it would have hurt his development as a starter.
Masterson can go back and forth between starting and relieving and excels in both, and he isin’t 1\2 the prospect Hughes is (though he was a good prospect)
So why can’t Hughes?
Wang and Hughes in the rotation, and Jobber in CF. How about that athletic defense???
A shot of Melky on 1st after his late innings single showed him manipulating his shoulder, maybe he just tweaked it a bit. He was hitting left handed and that makes the injured shoulder the lead. jag
Hughes will be fine.
Sabathia was scheduled to go against Beckett on Tuesday and Santana on Sunday
This probably changes that, but those would have been awesome games.
Melky’s shoulder hurts more when he swings LH, so he’s not starting against a RHP. Should last more than one or two more games.
Kevin in the 908
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Question for those of you who think Joba should be a starter and not a reliever just out of curiosity. What did you want the organization to do with Mariano Rivera when he was brought up years ago? He was originally a starter in the minor leagues. Did you think he have been a starter or a reliever? Just a question out of curiosity to see the different answers.
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Dont forget that we didnt have forums like this back then. So there was no outrage one way or the other. However, we did see him dominate lineups his first time through the order and then get hit around. So when they moved him to the pen it seemed like a logical move to me and my friends at the time.
Mo was a failed starter. Failed starters (either by performance or durability concerns) go to the pen.
I’m waiting for the update on Ransom… where is it Pete?
Ninja Burglar,
I like your handle. Were you victimized in NYC by the burglar? Or are you in fact THE ninja burglar???
Hopefully when Marte comes back he will help. He hasn’t been that good since coming to the Yanks.
Sending Hughes to the pen is another way of saying that the Yankses don’t have 100% confidence that Wang will be the old Wang. If he blows up again, the Yankees don’t have to wait 10 days to bring Hughes up again. If Wang pitches well, Hughes can return to Scranton until the next emergency (or September) and prepare for next season.
“Dont forget that we didnt have forums like this back then. So there was no outrage one way or the other.”
There was the silent outrage.
Who is Bryce Harper and why is he on the cover of S.I.?
Must have the good defensive lineup out there with Wang tomorrow
Jeter SS
Damon CF
Teix 1B
A-Rod DH
Cano 2B
Melky RF
Gardner CF
Cervelli C
Pena 3B
I just got the *biggest laugh* .A friend of mine,
(not a YANKEES fan,) said the Yankees are show casing Hughes to trade with a bundle of prospects,for Jake Pevy.
I still can’t stop laughing,he hung up.
“Melky’s shoulder hurts more when he swings LH, so he’s not starting against a RHP. Should last more than one or two more games.”
Ah, okay, for some reason I though Feldman was a lefty, turns out he bats left but throws right. That’s why I was wondering about Melky not in there, makes some sense now.
“I have an 11 game season ticket package and for the first three games of the package A.J. Burnett has been the starter. A.J. is fun to watch and all but really? Three times in a row? Give me someone else!”
That stinks… A couple years ago (over the course of two seasons), I went to 3 Dodger games, and 1 Padres (vs. LAD)game – each one was started by Dereke Lowe. ENOUGH ALREADY!
Also, I’ve been to only 2 concerts in my life… and the opening act both times was Collective Soul.
“I just got the biggest laugh .A friend of mine,
(not a YANKEES fan,) said the Yankees are show casing Hughes to trade with a bundle of prospects,for Jake Pevy.
I still can’t stop laughing,he hung up.”
That wouldn’t be Heyman, Gammons or Olney by any chance or is it loudmouth Rosenthal.
Cashman will be on the Michael Kay show in a few minutes to talk about the recent moves.
“Masterson can go back and forth between starting and relieving and excels in both, and he isin’t 1\2 the prospect Hughes is (though he was a good prospect)
So why can’t Hughes?”
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One of them didn’t have the injury and consistency problems that the other had. One of them is also 2 years older.
The fact that Masterson isn’t the prospect that Hughes is isn’t support for Hughes in the pen. It enforces the idea that your top starter prospects (Joba, Hughes, Buchholz) aren’t worth messing with in their early development. You can take chances with lesser prospects.
just a thought… I will pull for Hughes wherever he is.
Stultus,
Yes I’m a troll, that’s it.
Actually, I just hate the pathetic arguments some people continue to have based on little to no fact or evidence that belittles this blog. 60% of the posts are just kneejerk reactions to something poeple think they know as fact without actually considering why something might happen, why each move is being made the way it is.
So my last post was a mocking of all the people here screaming about Phil Hughes being put into the bullpen. He throws mid-90s with plus secondary pitches. He has had success in the pen during high pressure situations before for us, although the evidence is limited in scope. Would people rather Hughes in the pen for a little while or a not-ready Mark Melancon who won’t get the opportunities in meaningful situations he needs to develop?
It’s disheartening to see some people here post meaningful, well thought out arguments and others just flood the threads with nonsense.
Melky was rubbing his right shoulder last night; I noticed it after he singled. Must still be bothering him, hence another day to rest it. Makes sense.
“Clay Buchholz would be good in the pen too. But it would have hurt his development as a starter.”
yeah, but Boston doesn’t have a leaky bullpen. If they did – he might be.
No, I think sending Hughes to the bullpen says, they have no confidence in the bullpen until Bruney and Marte get back.
I doubt it has anything to do with Wang.
There is this blog urban legend on here recently that Wang is some hack who should have to “win” his job back.
We are talking about a guy who has been one of the 5 best starting pitchers in the AL the last 4 years.
Those guys DON’T have to win their jobs back. They have to be healthy enough to be put back in the rotation. Big difference.
The Yankees feel that after tomorrow, when he will be on a 75-80 pitch count, he will be back to full speed.
If that’s the case’ he’s back in the rotation. Simple as that.
Hughes? Spending time in the pen won’t hurt Hughes at all. He will eventually be back to starting. Just not right now.
“Who is Bryce Harper and why is he on the cover of S.I.?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQQ5cZD8PgU
I wouldn’t trade Hughes for Peavy straight up.
Phil Hughes is a better person than he is a pitcher. You don’t trade away high character guys – you stockpile them.
ESPN Radio update: 75-85 pitch count for Wang.
Wang will be on a pitch-count of 75-80 pitches as per ESPN radio.
“Hopefully when Marte comes back he will help. He hasn’t been that good since coming to the Yanks.”
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because he hasn’t been healthy. when he was, he did fine.
anybody have any updates on him?
“That’s playing the game hard right there,” starter A.J. Burnett said of Teixeira’s slide, which ignited the Yankees’ dugout. “Any runner would have done the same thing, but I think he had a little [extra intensity] built up in him. It was perfect hustle like that, *or as Alex [Rodriguez] likes to say, ‘passion.’* That’s just playing with passion right there.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb
I don’t know – I kind of like AJ referencing Alex…
Bingo, SJ
I don’t know why everyone is panicking. Hughes will be in the pen until Bruney gets back, then go back to starting.
Last year, the Yankees used Dan Giese to relieve Joba while they were stretching him out from a 2-3 inning pitcher to a 7 inning pitcher. Right now, Chin Ming Wang is probably only a 3 inning pitcher and someone will have to relieve him until he is stretched out. I suspect that someone will be Phil Hughes and I suspect that the process will take about a month.
I wonder if they are showcasing Wang.
It’s just wierd
Uhhh…Bruce from Flushing thinks they are showcasing Wang for a trade. Idiot.
“I wouldn’t trade Hughes for Peavy straight up.
Phil Hughes is a better person than he is a pitcher. You don’t trade away high character guys – you stockpile them.”
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That has nothing to do with it. Peavy is fine. He’s not Carlos Zambrano.
The reason you don’t make that trade is $$$. Peavy would cost a boatload while Hughes is cheap.
boston does not wan’t buchholz up until he is ready.
they had to totally rebuild his confidence wich was shattered.
he is very close now.
pitching lights out.
bostons prospects also come up at an older age than most teams.
Thoughts:
Yankees are 7-3 in last ten games, all losses coming at the hands of our bullpen-Aceves, Tomko, and Coke, with lots of help from Veras and Robertson, and Ramirez and Albaladejo before they were sent down.
Jeter is playing much better defense, especially to his left, and of course Teixeira, now our new everyday favorite player, is picking all the errant throws.
Damon looks like he’s worth another year in left field. Will be a much better and cheaper option than Bay or Holliday. Let’s see how it all plays out and if Damon stays healthy.
Nady will not be brought back, and will have to show he can play the field if he wants a contract next year with some team.
Glad they are keeping Hughes up on the roster, and giving Wang a chance to start again. Yes Wang is a two time 19 game winner, but patient teams who wait on his pitches, in order to get him to throw up in the zone, have hurt him.
If this starting staff stays healthy, and Bruney/Marte or a trade option are added to the bullpen, things look good for a WS this year.
If Swisher would stop trying to pull the ball everytime, maybe he could be a .270 hitter again.
Thoughts?
So Wang is taking CC’s spot. For the day hopefully.
“Right now, Chin Ming Wang is probably only a 3 inning pitcher and someone will have to relieve him until he is stretched out. I suspect that someone will be Phil Hughes and I suspect that the process will take about a month.”
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I am suspicious of your suspect suspicions.
What a surprise. I don’t want to see Aceves stand up in the bullpen at all tonight. Wang’s not stretched out, and I’d rather have Aceves there to pick up any slack.
That said, prove that you’re back, CMW.
Wanger against the Sux get the bullpen ready at the beginning of the 1st
Patrick-
First, let’s see how Wang pitches. All this could be moot if he doesn’t have a good start. Don’t get me wrong, I want Wang to be his old self, but he needs to show it. I sure hope he does, because if our rotation includes the 2007 Wang we will be pretty tough to beat.
Second, we (that’s the blog “we”) had this debate on Hughes last week, and I think you and I are on different sides of this fence. Or rather, you’re on one side of the fence, and I’m sitting on it.
I certainly see an argument for sending Phil back to AAA to work on his third pitch and to keep him strong. But I also see the argument that he might pick up some bad habits down in AAA facing batters he can easily get out. If he’s up in the majors, he will be facing top quality opposition and he will learn from that. Many top starters started out in the pen – see Santana for example. And Cone and O’Neill were speculating that it might be better for Hughes to stay in the majors rather than go down to AAA, and you have to take their views seriously.
But I think Randy is right – there will be plenty of opportunities for Hughes to start with the Yanks this year regardless of what happens with Wang.
the yankees don’t wan’t peavey.
he will command big bucks,an extention,ntc & if he gets bombed day in & day out in the al east the yankees are stuck with a very bad contract.
*CAL* your closer than you think!
So Wang is taking CC’s spot. For the day hopefully.
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No, the whole rotation is being moved back one day. CC to pitch on Friday against the Rays.
Also, tonight former Yankee Randy Johnson tries to become the 24th big league pitcher to reach 300 victories. Every time I think of the Big Unit, I can’t help but chuckle at Jason Giambi’s parting words concerning his former teammate after the 2007 season:
“He was a good pitcher. He was an older pitcher. We won him a lot of games.”
http://bombersbeat.mlblogs.com/
Who is Bryce Harper and why is he on the cover of S.I.?
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He is a high schook sophomore who throws 94 when he’s pitching and can hit a ball 500 feet when he’s swinging.
Think Lebron James coming out of high school, Strasburg now and Tiger when he was an amateur.
He’s the next big thing and already a Boras client.
They aren’t showcasing Wang. He’s their second best starting pitcher and he’s close to being all the way back from an injury.
Why is that so hard for people to understand?
Hughes in the pen until Bruney is back and then he either goes back to AAA to start or goes back into the rotation if there is an injury or something else occurs.
This ain’t rocket science folks.
not to mention he will cost a boatload of prospects.
are u guys listening??? Brian is 100 percent right.
I think Cash just said that this is gonna stay for the rest of the year.
This could derail the run we are
The team was playing well. The starters were rallying around eachother. They had great chemistry. Hughes was pitching well. The team liked seeing a young guy growing up like that and the team rooted for him.
Now all that is ruined and we send the wrong message to Hughes. Rule #1 is NEVER mess up the mojo when it is going good. We had won 16 of 20, playing well, getting good pitching. Now we’re forcing a rehab project in the rotation.
.”Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup ) that’s an impressive cast of charcters on that club”
pat m-
i forgot to mention a lowly left handed pitcher named rick peterson was my roommate part of the time. gene clines who was griffey’s and bond’s hitting coach was also there. the cliburn brothers who are now the rochester red wings manager and pitching coach were keys to that team. there were three players who would be mlb managers on the team. royster, mcrae, and washington. lots of players ( and coaches) went on to be mlb pitching coaches- rick petersen, tony cloninger, bruce kison,etc. there were so many who went on to minor league coaching and managing that i can’t keep track of. that group loved the game and that’s why so many stayed in it after their playing careers were over.
we played at jackie robinson stadium in daytona the second year and that was fitting because the team was a model for diversity.
ah – what else is cashman saying?
Anyone know if this game looks like it going to start on time? I gotta decide to head to the stadium or not.
The only way I’d want Peavy, is if the Padres paid most of his salary. His mechanics=bad elbow/shoulder surgery down the pike.
Now if we could take a chance on Sheets, and let him recover in the bullpen, he’d be worth a reclamation project. My guess is the Rangers will sign him in mid June after the draft.
“Hughes? Spending time in the pen won’t hurt Hughes at all. He will eventually be back to starting. Just not right now.”
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I hope not.
But for a pitcher who is still going through growing pains and has had issues with both injuries and consistency, it just doesn’t make much sense to me to throw Phil another curveball (of the 12 to 6 (or is it 9IP to 3IP?) variety
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Cashman is on Michael Kay’s show on 1050 ESPN radio right now answering questions re Wang, Hughes, etc.
SJ44,
Apparently, it is rocket science, or something similar.
Wang deserves a chance. He’s been the Yankees workhorse before last season’s injury.
It’s a hard choice, but Hughes will get more chances.
Duh. Forgot about Hughes. I guess he’ll piggy-back CMW.
Yanks don’t want Peavy and Peavy don’t want the Yanks. He wants to STAY IN THE NL. The furthest thing from that would be coming to the AL East with the Orioles in last and with an offense of Roberts, Jones, Markakis, Huff
“They aren’t showcasing Wang. He’s their second best starting pitcher and he’s close to being all the way back from an injury.
Why is that so hard for people to understand?”
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do you really have to ask that?
this blog rides a daily wave. if it didnt happen yesterday, it didnt happen.
Brian C. just basically said Hughes in the Bullpen is a two week thing until Bruney comes back that he wont be in the bullpen for long that makes me fell so much better.
“Glad they are keeping Hughes up on the roster, and giving Wang a chance to start again. Yes Wang is a two time 19 game winner, but patient teams who wait on his pitches, in order to get him to throw up in the zone, have hurt him.”
Not sure I agree with that. As long as CMW can throw the hard sinker down in the strikezone, he’s fine. It’s when he pitches from the stretch and his sinker flattens out is when he gets hurt. His issues always seem to be 99% mechanical – whether it be pitching from the stretch, or trusting his foot again.
Brian makes some great points.
And the stupid tarp is on the field right now at Yankee Stadium.
Rishi
Last week Alex referred to Tex as a combo of Tino amd O’Neill. I understood the Tino comparison but the O’Neill comparison didn’t hit home until last night when you saw a little of the “passion”.
PETE: Do you like this move? does it make sence?
“They aren’t showcasing Wang. He’s their second best starting pitcher and he’s close to being all the way back from an injury.
Why is that so hard for people to understand?”
sj44-
exactly.
i think some people just have short memories.
Nothing is ruined, please.
Cashman just said the goal is to keep Hughes stretched out.
Meaning……He will either go back to AAA soon and pitch or be back in the rotation if something else happens.
Cashman is making it clear that his future is as a starter. Where and when is to be determined.
According to Cashman — Hughes will be used in the same role as Aceves, however Joe wants to use him. Some days short innings, some days long man.
hahaha Ramus you are funny
These are grown men you are talking about not 3 year olds
I am sure Tex, A-Rod, and everyone else is going to stop hitting cuz they took their good friend Hughes out of the starting rotation
While I don’t like seeing this move, it is necessary. Hughes was starting to come around and now he his role flipped on him. Hopefully he can man up and continue to pitch the way he has but now out of the bp
Cash,2 weeks they will decide what there gonna do with Hughes, as Bruney rehabs. for now he’ll be in the Pen. They gonna stretch him out. So he might go back to AAA. Hughes can be either long man or short man, depending on how Girardi uses him. But wants to put him as long man, not put too much pressure on Hughes. They can also go to a 6 man rotation. No thought ever of Joba to the pen. Always would be starting.
http://community.thetimes-trib.....zquez.aspx
More news down under, Russo is returning soon, Betances soon will return from sore forearm, Ivan Nova will be promoted to AAA soon, Z-Mac is staying in AA until further notice, Mitre is back.
“They aren’t showcasing Wang. He’s their second best starting pitcher”
Agreed. Shame on those who want Wang traded or in the bullpen after what he’s proven. And for those who wanted him traded for a reliever, that’s pure insanity…
When Tex retires, barring something crazy happening, he will be one of the most beloved Yankees ever.
Calling it.
Listening to Brian, I’ve calmed down a bit. I think he made good points about Wang……and about Phil, Bruney may be coming back in a couple of weeks and after that, Phil could still be sent down. It sounds like Brian (he’s on with Kay) understands that they need to keep Phil stretched out. Ok, I’m officially off the ledge, lol
So if the game gets rained out, do they still keep the rotation intact with Pettitte the next game and Wang the game after?
If the primary reason Phil isn’t going back to AAA (assuming a successful Wang return) is that the bullpen is so bad, then Cashman needs to trade for another bullpen arm within the next 4-6 weeks.
If much of the logic for keeping Joba a starter applies, then it applies to Phil as well. It’s about development. It’s about the future as well.
I don’t doubt Phil will help up quite a bit in the pen. Like the Joba argument, it’s not about that.
this doesn’t mess anything up.
wang will be on a short leash with hughes & acevez ready to come in at the slightest sign of trouble with wang.
if wang struggles for 2 or 3 starts hughes is back in the rotation.
the yankees know what they are doing.
hughes will get the amount of innings that the yankees wan’t him to get.
girardi on the wfan now.
did not wan’t to wait with wang because he would need to be stretched out.
I know it may sound crazy but why not go with a 6 man rotation? I mean CC, AJ, Joba, Andy, Phil and CMW opening, I know our bullpen it’s a mess but I think it can work, what do you think?
Did you just “call” something that won’t happen for another 8 years? Ok, write it down big guy
I’m bummed. I want to hear Cashman say “Wake up and smell the coffee, Kay”
Boston Dave, Hughes is not in the pen to fix the bullpen. He’s there in case Wang blows up or Pettite hurts his back.
My new favorite site on the web: http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/
“Last week Alex referred to Tex as a combo of Tino amd O’Neill. I understood the Tino comparison but the O’Neill comparison didn’t hit home until last night when you saw a little of the “passion”.”
Srsly Alex can be a future scout or GM one day, he’s that smart in player evaluating. Cashman saids since Texas inj. Joba can’t get warmed up quick so that’s why he won’t go in the BP it takes him 30 -40 pitches to get it up to the mid 90’s.
Aceves can go tonight… Hughes will probably be Wang’s caddy, not Aceves.
SJ44,
that is good news.
OH GREAT! A low pitch count? How HELPFUL! Phil Hughes would have allowed us to go deep in a game, whats the sense in tiring them BOTH? What a smack in the face for POOR Hughes!
Now all that is ruined and we send the wrong message to Hughes. Rule #1 is NEVER mess up the mojo when it is going good. We had won 16 of 20, playing well, getting good pitching. Now we’re forcing a rehab project in the rotation.
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No pitcher wants to lose his job to an injury … make that no professional athlete.
Wang is the senior Yankee in the rotation considering Pettitte left and came back.
If you think players don’t appreciate loyalty from the organization they play for, you’re as clueless as you sound from that post.
Pitchers want to know if they’re not 100% and have 3 (count them 3) rough outings, they won’t be put out to pasture.
And using your logic, they won 9 in a row with Posada on the DL, they should have brought him back as Cervelli’s back-up so as not to upset their ‘mojo.’
Ths is really one of the great knuckleheaded posts of all time.
SJ, absolutely – Wang makes the Yankees a FAR superior team and I’ve never argued against it. Brian made some very good points about Wang – that his sinker appears back, so why wait? He’s also earned the trust of the organization. I can’t argue with any of that.
Come On, lol – that was me. I was really more angry about the Phil situation than Wang because I’m worried about his innings. How is he going to get consistent work? Joe is not going to take his starters out just to get Phil into a game…
Ramus
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
This could derail the run we are
The team was playing well. The starters were rallying around eachother. They had great chemistry. Hughes was pitching well. The team liked seeing a young guy growing up like that and the team rooted for him.
Now all that is ruined and we send the wrong message to Hughes. Rule #1 is NEVER mess up the mojo when it is going good. We had won 16 of 20, playing well, getting good pitching. Now we’re forcing a rehab project in the rotation.
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Mazel Tov on the most assanine post I have ever read on this site
Hughes could really help this pen. In a limited inning role he has the potential to be spectacular. In the best of all possible worlds for me, Wang is his old self starting and Hughes becomes the 8th inning “bridge to Mo”. Then next year, Hughes moves to a full time starting role.
Hughes is burning up his controlled time with the Yanks, they ought to get as much value from him as they can before he becomes a free agent.
Probably just a dream, but one I’d like to see come true.
“Boston Dave, Hughes is not in the pen to fix the bullpen. He’s there in case Wang blows up or Pettite hurts his back.”
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that’s fine – if it’s short term. It sounds like that is the case, fortunately. I hadn’t heard what Cashman said when I posted.
Benny,
Can you elaborate, for Rishi and me and others still at work?
Thanks.
I have a feeling that Hughes is going to become Girardi’s trusted reliever until Bruney comes back.
“Hughes becomes the 8th inning “bridge to Mo”. Then next year, Hughes moves to a full time starting role.”
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so you want Hughes on an innings limit of 100 next season?
Since the Texas Injury it takes Joba 35-40 pitches to get it up there. So he can’t be in the bullpen. I hope that shuts up Joba to the bullpen question.
Cash is talking about how Joba doesn’t get warmed up easily velocity wise until 30 pitches into the game. Could that be an injury waiting to happen? Are they concerned, or why would that happen all of a sudden?!
Gammons was on earlier with Kay.
He FINALLY said what many of us have written about the Tex-Red Sox-Yankees negotations. The Red Sox ownership blew the deal.
Tex loved both Theo and Cashman. Both GM’s wanted him at any cost, knowing the importance of him to their respective teams.
Cashman, smartly according to Gammons, kept ownership away from the negotiations. The Red Sox though, brought Henry and Lucchino to the final meeting and they blew the deal.
What Gammons DIDN’T say, and what actually happened in the meeting was, Lucchino got into it in front of Boras in front of Tex. He told him he was “full of #@#$” when Scott told him he had an offer higher than Boston’s offer for his services.
That turned Tex off, Cashman stayed on the case, and he got his man.
To that end, the way he went about this outmanuvered the Sox and, at least for now, is the difference between the two teams right now, IMO.
i hope wang is back and pitches great. he’s one of the best starters in the game when he’s on.
but if he’s off, i want everyone here who was so sure this is the right word to remember what they said.
personally, i think he’s going to get crushed and cost the yankees a couple games and, in the process, completely deflate his trade value, confidence, and standing with the organization. i don’t think he’s right yet and i think he and the team are both going to pay for this.
i hope i’m wrong. i often am, so it wouldn’t be a surprise, but chien-ming wang better be worth giving up phil hughes every fifth day for now.
I think Cashman said Hughes wouldn’t be available until Friday. If I heard that right, he won’t be piggy backing Wang tomorrow.
girardi told hughes that he can be called upon during any inning for multiple innings.
francessa being an idiot again.
the bottom line is that the yankees were in a tough spot.a very nice problem but still a tough spot & it was the right thing to do because wang is a starter & hughes is more flexible.
francessa saying hughes is not going to be good in the pen.
clueless.
CAUTION: Do not listen to Brian Cashman while driving or operating heavy machinery as unexpected episodes of narcolepsy have been shown to occur.
Wave Your Hat, you think he can be Papelbon for us for awhile ?
Girardi’s switcheroo explanation (before the recording started he moved wang in because he wanted to keep the length in his arm as opposed to wang turning into a 45 pitch reliever):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60902447852d1a6b/
SJ, absolutely – Wang makes the Yankees a FAR superior team and I’ve never argued against it. Brian made some very good points about Wang – that his sinker appears back, so why wait? He’s also earned the trust of the organization. I can’t argue with any of that.
Come On, lol – that was me. I was really more angry about the Phil situation than Wang because I’m worried about his innings. How is he going to get consistent work? Joe is not going to take his starters out just to get Phil into a game
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Hughes in the bullpen is a two week thing.
thanks, Clare
I was hoping for some more details – I’m not only at work, but hundreds of miles away from home so I can’t even get on a NY area radio station
Cash,2 weeks they will decide what there gonna do with Hughes, as Bruney rehabs. for now he’ll be in the Pen. They gonna stretch him out. So he might go back to AAA. Hughes can be either long man or short man, depending on how Girardi uses him. But wants to put him as long man, not put too much pressure on Hughes. They can also go to a 6 man rotation. No thought ever of Joba to the pen. Always would be starting. It is irritating for Cashman, always hearing about Joba to the pen, as he is a Legit starter. Joba has outpitched AJ at this point. Marte Bullpen session on Friday. The team really communicates with each other, yesterday was another example of how real the chemistry is. Padilla had nasty stuff yesterday.
Cash,2 weeks they will decide what there gonna do with Hughes, as Bruney rehabs. for now he’ll be in the Pen. They gonna stretch him out. So he might go back to AAA. Hughes can be either long man or short man, depending on how Girardi uses him. But wants to put him as long man, not put too much pressure on Hughes. They can also go to a 6 man rotation. No thought ever of Joba to the pen. Always would be starting. It is irritating for Cashman, always hearing about Joba to the pen, as he is a Legit starter. Joba has outpitched AJ at this point. Marte Bullpen session on Friday. The team really communicates with each other, yesterday was another example of how real the chemistry is. Padilla had nasty stuff yesterday.
Braves have released Tom Glavine. Odds for Boston jumping on that, like a dog on a bone? Even money, until Gammons finds out about it.
“so you want Hughes on an innings limit of 100 next season?”
No. I don’t see any reason he’d be on such a short leash.
Good interview with Cashman. Met game rained out in Pitt.
Why is Hughes in the pen? Why not just send him down to Scranton so he can pitch on a schedule?
SJ44, Tex is a huge advantage for us, but the Sox have a really great bullpen. We have an awful bullpen. Right now we’re close in everything but the pen, and that’s a big problem.
I agree with Francessa- Hughes’ stuff does not translate well in the 8th inning… he is a starting pitcher. He has never relieved before. He was a long man in the playoffs.
“Wave Your Hat, you think he can be Papelbon for us for awhile ?”
Bingo!
Hughes to the 8th inning is not the plan according to Cashman.
They intend on keeping him stretched out. It sounds like he is in the bullpen until Bruney gets back (perhaps in two weeks) or if a starter goes down, he will rejoin the rotation.
right word = right move. sorry.
Cashman just said Padilla had “nasty” stuff last night…
Padilla gets released today….
hmmmm…. I hope Cash doesn’t get any ideas.
Thanks for that recap, SJ – facinating to hear esp from Gammons…
I read another good point on another board – that Wang isn’t going to be ready to go 7 or 8 innings yet, so Phil can pitch in his starts. I really do hope he gets sent down as soon as Wang is really back because although I think Phil can help in the pen, he won’t be able to work on his pitches.
Did I read here that Padilla was released? LOL if true, I love it. I love Ryan – he was a tough guy (ask Robin Ventura) – but Padilla is bush league and anything BUT tough
Don’t worry guys. Burnett will go down right on schedule and then Hughes will take his spot.
Welcome back, CMW!
“Now all that is ruined and we send the wrong message to Hughes.”
Who wrote this crap? How about sending the wrong message to Wang? Wang has earned it! Earned it! Get it through your skull, man!
To quote another fool: “ATROCIOUS!”
Stop listening to Francesa. The less feathers he ruffles hopefully eventually he’ll be off the air.
the yanks absolutely have to see who wang is now…
if he is the real wang great they have a 19 game winner if he is not, they will see in a few starts and they have a 22 yr old stud who will be a good starter one day.
why is this real complicated and hard to comprehend?
hughes will be in SWB or back in the rotation within 2 weeks, sherlocks………
“Padilla had nasty stuff yesterday.”
nasty as in “mean”, right?
Thanks benfica and SJ.
And no problem Rishi
Wave Your Hat, well we’ll see, but if he turns into Papelbon…WFAN
“Braves have released Tom Glavine.”
Has he pitched yet this year? I thought he was on the DL.
Pete – I hope Wang buys you dinner for getting his rotation spot back with all of your posts
i like cashman but he rambles on endlessly when answering a question..
he is painful to listen to….
Question for everyone: If Hughes want to work out of the bullpen for the rest of this year why can’t the team just let him? It is clear that he wants to help out this team at the big league level this year and if that is the way he can help them out this year I think he should. He has clearly earned it in my book.
““Padilla had nasty stuff yesterday.”
nasty as in “mean”, right?
No, I think he meant nasty as in filthy – or in other words, Padilla was dealing. Not sure what game Cashman was watching.
Yankees should sign Glavine and move him to the pen!
I kid, I kid.
Cashman didn’t really clarify much in that interview
He said in the beginning of the interview that that he would be used kind of like Aceves in a short or a long role… whatever Joe decides, then said they want to keep him stretched out.
sterling was not saying anything niceabout padillas stuff last night. who do I believe about Padilla. sterling said he was throwing in the low 90’s…
I missed Gammons, and will catch him later on the podcast….wow, SJ -that’s really something. What the heck was Lucchino thinking of? That’s like me insulting my friends mother to her face. My friend may have issues with mommy dearest (or not), but you don’t do that. Tacky…..and classless what Larry L. did.
Francesca is an idiot. Phil is a talented pitcher and talented pitchers can pitch most anywhere. He did do it in 2007….
wang most likely friday, actually, as the game is probably going to be rained out. mets game was postponed.
I don’t think this move will be detrimental to Hughes’ career, by any means. Justin Masterson of the Red Sox has bounced back and forth from the bullpen to the rotation. Same with JA Happ of the Phillies. And Chad Billingsley (now the Dodgers’ ace) made half of his appearences out of the bullpen in 2007. Plenty of young starters work as relievers before they become full-time starters.
And this will probably just be a temporary move, as others have alluded to.
is this gonna be postponed????
Sweeni now on FAN
I’m depressed that this game is gonna be rained out.
How about getting this game in tonight? any updates?
How do you keep Hughes stretched out if the starters all go deep and we don’t need a long man for a while?
You can’t guarantee he will be stretched out. That is the same problem Wang had and why the window to move him to the rotation was shrinking because he wouldnt’t be stretched out.
“Hughes to the 8th inning is not the plan according to Cashman.”
Well, that could be today’s plan, all right. But what if he comes in, pitches an inning and is lights out? Plans often change as circumstances change.
Gotta go.
““so you want Hughes on an innings limit of 100 next season?”
No. I don’t see any reason he’d be on such a short leash.”
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well, he’d be on a short leash next season if he stayed in the pen the rest of this season.
good thing cashman isn’t going that route.
Matt, Wang had opportunities to be used. They just didn’t trust him with big outs.
If all our starters go deep, we’ll be a fantastic ballclub.
this game is not getting rain out
“Well, that could be today’s plan, all right. But what if he comes in, pitches an inning and is lights out?”
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like Joba might do if he went to the pen?
or Wade Davis? Tampa could use the pen help.
it’s a bad idea.
“personally, i think he’s going to get crushed and cost the yankees a couple games and, in the process, completely deflate his trade value, confidence, and standing with the organization.”
kasey-
…and he may get crushed once or twice as he comes back. it happens.
but if that’s what it takes to get him going and back to being the pitcher who won 38 games in two years, then what’s a couple of games to gain a lot more games later.
can you play your music well if you haven’t performed in a long while ?
wang needs to pitch.
“but if he’s off, i want everyone here who was so sure this is the right word to remember what they said. ”
LMAO.
Why? Did you give me a kidney that I don’t know about & now I must defer to you? Hilarious!
C, can you show me where you’re getting this info?
Why are some people upset with a 2 time 19 game winner going back into the rotation? I didn’t know that after being injured and having 3 bad outings you’re automatically banned from the rotation.
Wang has been one of the most consistent performers on the team, if he comes back and pitches like the Wang of old this team will be very hard to beat.
In addition his ability to go deep into the game will further hide the weakness of the Yankee bulpen until they get their bulpen in order
No way this game is getting played
This is going to screw up the rotation. You will have to pitch CC on Friday and then push AJ back a day and slot Wang on Saturday
Ouch… Wang is slated to go against the Sox and Mets.
randy l., I agree he’ll have some bad starts.
But if his start is bad today, we still have a problem.
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DT
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
““Padilla had nasty stuff yesterday.”
nasty as in “mean”, right?
No, I think he meant nasty as in filthy – or in other words, Padilla was dealing. Not sure what game Cashman was watching.
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I was just kidding
Wow, they must be confident in Wang they they slotted the rotation so that he opens the series in Boston and pitches Sunday vs. Santana against the Mets.
Nephew braggin’ time again…..
Tony was just named one of the three finalists for the Johnny Bench Award, given annually to the best college catcher in America. Buster Posey won it last year.
The winner will be announced on June 26.
Wang CC Joba vs Boston
“well, he’d be on a short leash next season if he stayed in the pen the rest of this season.
good thing cashman isn’t going that route.
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Mendoza averaged 129 IP from 1997-1999. He also averaged 11 starts per year over that stretch while he served as the spot starter.
Phil has already thrown 55 IP in 1/3 of a season this year (counting SWB). If you take 2/3 of Mendoza’s average IP and add it to Phil’s , then you get 141 IP. It can be done, if everything breaks correctly. Of course, any one of a dozen things could nullify my rationale.
http://www.baseball-reference......ing_simple
weather.com says periods of rain. there’s a chance they try to get it in.
No doubleheader for the Mutts tomorrow.
Pete, dont hurt yourself doing backflips.. i know u root for Wang a lot..
on a serious note, this is unfair to Phil… totally jerks him… he was gaining a good rhythm and he had a great start just a week back… puzzled at the timing of this move
Randy I, All those ballplayers are from my era as well…..Bruce Kison, faced him in a B game in Brandeton…..Willei Mayes Aikens, what a great talent, and what a great 1980 World Series……That was a former All-Star team you hung with and played with…..Who had the best stuff ????
Carl, I like our chances.
congrats, SJ…
lots of great news these days!!
“Cashman just said Padilla had “nasty” stuff last night…
Padilla gets released today….
hmmmm…. I hope Cash doesn’t get any ideas.”
He wasn’t released. He was placed on revocable waivers.
There really isin’t much of a window for tonight’s game
It’s going to rain throughout, sometimes light, other times moderate. Nothing heavy, probably the same kind of rain we saw against Boston. Going to get worse as the night goes.
“C, can you show me where you’re getting this info?”
Via Weather.com 7pm 35% chance of rain, 8 and 9 Pm no rain 10pm 45% chance of rain
C, then we might have a shot at getting it in.
SJ44,
Congrats! That’s awesome.
Would this game start on time or be delayed? Bah I hate rainy weather.
Congrats SJ.
i can’t keep up with these comments, apparently
i like the move and am anxious to see Wang pitch tomorrow
unfortunately, i think Hughes will be starting soon as I see a suspension coming for Burnett due to last night. i hope i’m wrong. but i’ve learned to hope for the best and expect the worst with suspensions/league discipline lately… and Joba has suspended for not hitting someone.
Brqaves released Glavine
“Ouch… Wang is slated to go against the Sox and Mets.”
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ouch?
I say “bring it on”
The Sox are aggressively looking to add offense to their lineup that can’t score more than 3 runs.
the Mets are struggling themselves (mostly with injuries but still).
Wang is a big boy and has done well in the past. He’ll be fine…
and maybe hungrier than ever.
Braves release Tom Glavine
Congrats to your family SJ!
Must be great for him to see all his hard work pay off.
This stadium should have a dome.
anyone know why Gardner is getting the start over Melky?
Pete,
Did you hear? Rodney Harrison is retiring. Going to NBC. I wonder if Cheech and Chong will be joining him for a segment on MNF.
Hey Pete, what happens to the rotation if tonight’s game is rained out? Will everybody be pushed back? Will Wang skip his start?
Boston Dave, Boston’s lineup scares me. Even Papi. What’s crazy aren’t big Papi’s numbers this year. What’s crazy is his 314 avg. vs. the Yanks and two doubles, I believe.
Wang deserved his spot back, and not because he pitched effective relief the last week, but based on the fact he’s been one of the top 5 starters in the game the few years. However, not sure it’s wise to have him face the Rangers lineup in his first start back. He’ll be spending Thursday on my fantasy bench just in case..
Francesa is crying since Wang will pitch against the Sox and the Mets. He makes it seem like the Mets lineup is so scary to face these days. Give me a break there lineup stinks, who cares.
good news SJ44! congrats to Tony and your family
“C, then we might have a shot at getting it in.”
Yup this game is definitely gonna get played but probably not on time cause it is suppose to stop around 7
Too bad they made this announcement before the game. It may complicate things a bit if there’s a postponement.
pat
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
“Braves have released Tom Glavine.”
Has he pitched yet this year? I thought he was on the DL.
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He’s been in extended spring training, and, apparently, that didn’t turn out well. It really comes as no surprise to most down here in Georgia. He was cooked two years ago. Randy Johnson is about finished, too. He’s getting strikeouts, bit, that 6.00+ ERA is ugly. Hopefully, he gets #300 tonight and calls it a day.
There looks like a nice window moving in over west jersey on its way up here…maybe they do get this game in but it’s going to be soggy
Is anyone else concerned with the closeness of Cashman and Epstein?
Why is it necessary for the complex workings of negotiations be revealed to a journalist?
*What is Cashman thinking* ?
Can Glavine pitch out of the bullpen? How about that change up in the late innings? lol
I’m not gonna make comments insulting the lineups of teams I don’t like just because I don’t like them, just like I didn’t assume that just because we dislike Pavano we’d light him up.
The Mets and Sox have good teams. They do. Wang will not have an easy time against them.
See Pete – you got your wish!!
brent
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Is anyone else concerned with the closeness of Cashman and Epstein?
Why is it necessary for the complex workings of negotiations be revealed to a journalist?
What is Cashman thinking ?
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I don’t think Cashman leaked info on the negotiations to Gammons…more than likely Theo and crew
The real question is what they do if there is a rainout
Do they just push everyone a day back? That means CC on 1 weeks rest if he goes Saturday.
It also means Pettitte-Wang-CC against the Sux and Joba-Burnett-Pettitte vs. the Mets
Hughes threw 146 innings in 2006, so that means his innings limit is 176 according to the Verducci rule right? I think you guys are misunderstanding the rule.
sj 44 – congrats to your nephew.
i just want to be sure we’re clear: it’s NOT okay to jerk chien-ming wang around, but it IS okay to jerk around a kid you’re trying to develop as one of the future cornerstones of your rotation? the kid who was so valuable to the rotation you opted out of the santana sweepstakes to hold on to? awesome.
this is absolutely unfair to hughes. you can’t have it both ways. it’s not “fine” for hughes but “awful” to do to wang.
Weather Update by Weatherbug app on iphone:
8pm 61% chance of rain
9pm 20% chance of rain
game on brothas
DB-NICE.
They’ll probably squeeze 6 innings or so of this game in between 7:30-9:30.
So get a lead, and win a rain shortened game.
I thought Cashman’s most interesting line to Michael Kay was that Joba would not be an effective 8th inning pitcher right now. He said that since Joba’s injury last year he is not the same pitcher. He also said that Joba takes until about 35 pitches to stretch out (the reason for his 1st inning problems)and that would not work in the 8th inning.
SJ – Congratulations to your nephew.
UPDATE, 6:06 p.m.: Teixeira has been scratched for a bruised right ankle, the result of last night’s takeout slide of Elvis Andrus. X-rays were negative and he is day-to-day.
The tarp is on the field and there seems like little chance of the game starting on time.
Tex scratched. How did Andrus go unscathed? That was a pretty nasty tumble.
Tex scratched from the lineup. Right ankle bruise. Probably from going into 2nd base the way he did.
SJ44,
KLaw posted his updated mock draft today:
4. Pittsburgh Pirates
Tony Sanchez, C, Boston College: GM Neal Huntington and scouting director Greg Smith flew to meet with Sanchez last week. They don’t have a deal in place, but this is the most likely choice from their mix of players, which also includes Bobby Borchering and Wil Myers.
29. New York Yankees
Slade Heathcott, CF, Texas HS, Texarkana, Texas: Heathcott is one of the best tools players in this draft, but his uncertain family life (his father is in jail on drug charges and his mother is out of the picture for similar reasons) and expected price tag had him looking like a second- or third-rounder. Arizona, the Phillies and the Yankees have all scouted him heavily the last three weeks. The Yanks, meanwhile, have shown a lot of interest in Arnett, but I doubt he gets here.
Callis mentioned character issues for Slade in his chat today, but didn’t elaborate. I don’t think teams should hold his family against him, but does he have any issues himself?
Pete you might want to check that line-up…you have two rightfielders.
I’m going to assume Swish to 1b and Melky to RF…a rain out might not be a bad thing
BP TV on YES has a report/interview coming up with Austin Jackson, for those interested.
Mike just said Tex was not in the lineup!!!
*Rishi loose lips sink ships*!
*Epstein* isn’t hanging around for nothing.
Darn Tex is out.
That’s a shame.
Mike just said he did not believe Padilla was put on waivers lol.
Kasey, yeah I don’t have a problem with that. Hughes got to pay his dues like everyone else. When he wins 38 games in 2 years then he can have a gripe about it. He’s lucky he’s not on the next flight to Scranton.
http://www.weather.com/weather.....undeclared
Check out the radar map u can see a chuck of time in between the two storms
DB I’m with you on Hughes.
So now Melk is playing???
Kasey,
Hughes is the 6th starter on the team. Those guys get bounced back and forth. The two situations are not similar.
Cashman didn’t tell Gammons what went on. He got that from the Red Sox. It was common knowledge in the industry what went on in that Dallas meeting. Gammons just decided to go public with it today.
Congrats to your nephew SJ.
Melky looked like he was in some discomfort when he had that single hitting lefthanded with his last AB last night. That could be why he’s not starting tonight. Or it’s because the GGBG is Da Man.
“UPDATE, 6:11 p.m.: The Rangers released Vicente Padilla today, by the way.”
Wow do u think his teammates went to front office to request a release of him?
UPDATE, 6:11 p.m.: The Rangers released Vicente Padilla today, by the way.
Mike needs proof?
Definitely looks like a window to get the game in, but without Tex I’m not sure if it should be played.
Brent,
You really have no clue on how the baseball business works. Guys can have cordial business relationships, even friendships, without sharing trade secrets.
Its baseball. Its not war.
Brent,
You really have no clue on how the baseball business works. Guys can have cordial business relationships, even friendships, without sharing trade secrets.
Its baseball. Its not war.
6 starting pitchers
Both Melky and Gardner a playing well
Jeter is an above average fielder
Things are good.
great.
now we have a gaping hole at first base because girardi want’s to use 2 rf.
fire him now.
Lineup is still ok… but still 3 automatic outs with Swisher, Cabrera, and Gardner
bru
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm
great.
now we have a gaping hole at first base because girardi want’s to use 2 rf.
fire him now.
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Hahahahaha.
That stinks about Tex not paying..Feldman has been really good recently they needed his bat in the lineup.
The world has become so ridiculous that players can’t play with bruises.
Swish, Melky, and Gardner are not Auto outs.
I’m worried about Tex! Any more news on this?
Erica, how are you feeling?
“UPDATE, 6:11 p.m.: The Rangers released Vicente Padilla today, by the way.”
How long before the Mets pick him up?
Sj44 You have no idea ,what I know,you can only give an opinion too.
Its not a serious injury. They probably don’t want him playing on a wet field tonight. Makes sense when you think about it.
Hey bru, sorry I didn’t follow up with your earlier post..You are pretty stacked in SP on your team. Must be a small league, how’s your hitting? Anyway, with that knowledge it sounded like an acceptable deal
My favorite part of the night…lineup complaints and criticisms.
Doug
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Lineup is still ok… but still 3 automatic outs with Swisher, Cabrera, and Gardner
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Let’s see, now. a center fielder that’s hitting .270+ with 10 steals, a right fielder hitting .320 and a first baseman with 40 walks, 10 homers and 35 RBIs. Looks like automatic outs to me.
Doug, since when has a guy with a 312 avg. been an automatic out.
Guys, lay off Girardi’s decision to use two right fielders tonight, it’s been done in Japan to good effect.
Swisher is playing first, guys.
Duh.
GreenBeret7, exactly.
I was wrong. 320, not 312.
SJ,
hughes had pitched well enough to keep his spot, IMO.
we’ll see. if wang pitches well, it’s a great problem to have. he better hope he does because two bad outings against the sox and mets should cost him his job, IMO. he better step up.
vin,
In time for the subway series.
Hummph, I’d rather it be a war :>
Brandon.. Hughes took your spot WANG !
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Jay NJ June 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
About the only way Wang will start is if AJ is suspended
If not, he won’t get a start until sometime in the middle of August to give Hughes/Joba/Andy a breather
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Those amused me.
Kasey: “personally, i think he’s going to get crushed and cost the yankees a couple games and, in the process, completely deflate his trade value, confidence, and standing with the organization.”
kasey, aren’t you honor-bound to be positive for the next week?? Either way, I find fault with your premise. If Wang is not starting, his trade value, confidence, and standing are already diminished.
m: Just a theory, but the timing of this move might have been partly influenced by the fact that Aceves wasn’t needed last night and is thus available tonight, which means Wang won’t be needed tonight which means he can start tomorrow and Hughes will be standing by. It’s the Domino Effect, which you of course are familiar with, having adopted the Jamaican National Domino Team as your own.
I’m happy about this move. I think if one were to take away the names of the players involved and just look at their performance histories, this wouldn’t be controversial at all.
Hughes is not being jerked around in any way. As has been said already, he is the 6th starter. This goes with the territory.
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Erica, how are you feeling?
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In all honesty Fran, I haven’t been able to stay awake long enough today to tell. But thanks for asking. I am excited about going to the doctor again tomorrow because it means I get to leave my apartment.
Teix was 3-10 with a HR and double off Feldman too
Not going to be easy to win tonight at all. Feldman is 4-0 this year, doesn’t walk many guys or give up many HRs.
It would be nice to win tonight and not depend on Wang to win us the series.
Good luck to Randy Johnson on his 300th win
“Guys, lay off Girardi’s decision to use two right fielders tonight, it’s been done in Japan to good effect.”
Well, we wanted an innovative manager… and now we got one. Stupid Torre would probably have Swisher play 1B, and Melky in RF. What an idiot!!!1!!!
Hahahaha, Padilla released.
A guy with a .314 ba and a .830 ops is an automatic out?
Every team in baseball would love a lineup full of .830 ops. hitters
btw – if tonight is rained out don’t expect a doubleheader tomorrow. Both teams have Monday 8/24 off the day before Texas’ 2nd 3-game series here.
Yanks will be coming home from Boston and Texas will has a road trip day-off after being in Tampa.
Let’s hope Hughes doesn’t do TOO well in the bullpen.
Then we’ll have to listen to people saying that both he and Joba should be in the pen.
DB
inge
howard
utley
huff
drew
hunter
bay
dye
hawpe
justin upton
bench is
lopez
jerry hairston
varitek
luke scott
About time A-Rod starts stepping up and earning his money
It’s been almost 2 weeks since he has hit a HR. All we have been seeing is a bunch of 1-4s and 2 strikeouts a game. Even yesterday he should have hit into a DP
He had a hot streak on the homestand, and has cooled off again. He has to turn it back up and he has to turn it up now.
Outlawz, he could pinch hit if we need him.
I’m callling a Tex walk off HR, elevnth inning, game tied five-five.
“kasey, aren’t you honor-bound to be positive for the next week??”
during the games, yes.
and i am positive. i’m positive three innings out of relief isn’t enough to convince me that wang should have his job back.
but the yankees botched this from jump street. there was no “right” way to fix what they did. it is what it is. i hope wang’s right because he’s one of the best in the game when he is.
UPDATE, ANALYSIS OF TODAY’S MOVE, 6:16 p.m.: The Yankees had little choice but to return Wang to the rotation. As I posted earlier today, as every day passed his arm strength would decrease. Meanwhile he is not well-suited for the bullpen.
Before he was injured, Wang was one of the more effective and durable starters in the majors. He had shown lately that he was back to that level. The opportunity to add a pitcher of his caliber to the rotation is not one a team can pass on. Hughes has pitched well but not as well as Wang in his prime. Not yet, anyway.
Hughes will take on the bullpen role vacated by Wang and will be available if (or when) they need another starter. It’ll happen eventually.
I would bank on Wang pitching very well tomorrow. He knows he needs to make the most of this chance.
Add another congrats to the Tony Sanchez/SJ44 pile.
It just goes to show you that there is no substitute for hard work.
SJ, I think I heard during the Cleveland broadcast the other night that Kelly Shoppach won that award when he was at Baylor. Great company for your nephew as Kelly is having a fine career for himself as a major leaguer.
Erica, kind of sad that you are looking forward to a doctor’s visit! Hope that you feel better soon.
f Randy Johnson and his 300 win.
Randy first, team second can kmwa
I’m with Pete on the Wang analysis.
2nd place.
the commissioner of the league is in 1st but he has been doing it for years.
his pitchers are soria,becket,halladay,josh johnson.
i struggled at draft time because it was my first time.
i would of done it totally different.
i got a catcher before good pitching wich is a no no.
I may or may not be new here
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
GreenBeret7, exactly.
I was wrong. 320, not 312.
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I lied. Cabrera’s only hitting .314, Swisher only has 31 RBI and 35 walks.
We’re giving away all of our off-days… we already had two taken away for the Angels and A’s games
Now we’re going to give away another one? In the late summer when we are getting tired and are heading down the stretch in the race, we’re going to need those off-days to stay fresh. Yankees need to just play a doubleheader next time Texas comes in, not give away another off-day.
Finally some sanity.
GreenBeret7, I was wrong anyway, wasn’t I? 314.
“He had a hot streak on the homestand, and has cooled off again. He has to turn it back up and he has to turn it up now.”
New to the game, are ya?
Excellent move by the Yanks. I’m confident Wang will once again be a very effective starter. His sinker looked nasty his last time out of the bullpen. The bullpen just picked up a much needed arm. I think this is terric news.
guys dont freak out about tex. Andrew Marchand from ESPN radio says that it’s not serious and he’s day-to-day. I think he’ll be in the lineup tommorow. CC rather wants a WS ring then a Cy Young award.
guys dont freak out about tex. Andrew Marchand from ESPN radio says that it’s not serious and he’s day-to-day. I think he’ll be in the lineup tommorow. CC rather wants a WS ring then a Cy Young award.
guys dont freak out about tex. Andrew Marchand from ESPN radio says that it’s not serious and he’s day-to-day. I think he’ll be in the lineup tommorow. CC rather wants a WS ring then a Cy Young award.
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Erica, kind of sad that you are looking forward to a doctor’s visit! Hope that you feel better soon.
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Actually, the fact I just watched a Golden Girls episode with a young George Clooney, and that was the highlight of my day- is even sadder
DB – (officially panicked 5/13/09)
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Hummph, I’d rather it be a war :>
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“I didn’t hear a HURRUMPF” from that guy (pointing at Betsy).
What has the world come to that when you bruise your ankle you don’t play the game?
“I would bank on Wang pitching very well tomorrow. He knows he needs to make the most of this chance.”
i believe you said something very similar before wang’s second and third starts.
and wang had shown “lately” that he was back to that level? really?! he’s had one good outing all year and it lasted three innings. or are you counting the time he gave up two runs in three innings of relief there as well, because i’m pretty sure that would not qualify as a good outing for anyone else in that situation.
look, i hope wang is right. i really do. but this is getting absurd. he has thrown three good innings this year. three.
“Is anyone else concerned with the closeness of Cashman and Epstein?”
what consenting adults do is none of our business
Some of the comments are just inane.
Teixiera has a bruised ankle. He was in the original lineup. He’ll be fine.
Wang was 46-15, 3.74 before he got hurt. Very, very few starters were better than that. He was their No. 2 starter when the season started. You can’t leave him out of the rotation.
Hughes is 22. He’ll be fine. He just said he was cool with the move and would rather be in the bullpen than Scranton. He’ll be able to get his innings, which were controlled this year anyway. Eventually he’ll go back to Scranton when Bruney comes back or back in the rotation when they need a starter.
The team is playing great and they’re making good moves. Stop complaining for the sake of making complaints.
Well I did say this would happen in the next few weeks.
AWESOME NEWS!!!!!!
GO YANKEES!!!!!
Ugh….not Tex – crossing my fingers that he’ll be ok. I certainly wouldn’t want him playing on what looks to be a slippery field….
Thank you very much Pete.
kasey-
so what would you do with wang?
Erica – newly OPPC
Hope you feel better and good luck tomorrow with the doctor.
One of my favorite Golden Girls episodes is on now. The one where Sophia befriends a boardwalk patron and Blanche gives away Fernando(Rose’s stuffed bear) to that little snotty girl
Before he was injured, Wang was one of the more effective and durable starters in the majors. He had shown lately that he was back to that level.
i’m sorry, this is still killing me. three solid innings and wang has returned to being one of the most durable and effective starters in the majors. that’s rich, dude. seriously.
we get it. you like the kid. i like the kid. the yankees just gave him plenty of rope. here’s hoping he doesn’t hang himself.
“What has the world come to that when you bruise your ankle you don’t play the game?”
Baseball has gone soft. Back in my day, we would play with torn labrums and broken legs.
Now baseball is babying everybody. A guy gets a paper cut and he goes on the DL.
“i’m positive three innings out of relief isn’t enough to convince me that wang should have his job back.”
But you’re also positive that more has gone on behind the scenes than just the relief innings that we have seen from Wang, right?
And no, I’m not playing the tired “the Yankees know more than we do” card, but Wang has obviously been throwing side sessions and working with Eiland and, as Pete pointed out in the other thread, needs to log some real innings before too long. I think this makes perfect sense.
kasey, he’d thrown a couple other scoreless before that. What are you waiting for?
ZA App, I know it. I know it.
thats because texis making 23 million & it would be stupid to lose him for a long time because players 50 years ago were just earning a living playing ball.
Wang has only throwed 3 good innings. If you don’t allow him to start, then it will be 3 good innings for the whole season. Baseball has a long season, one start (hopefully much more) does not a season made (or spoiled). Let’s go, Wanger(though I am not a big fan of his)!
Erica, but that was a good episode
mike francessa thinks that the news is true only if he sees it or wfan knows about it.. a caller called in and informed that padilla was released according to peter gammons and Mike called the news as bs and he didnt see it anywhere.. Pete ofcourse has the same news.
Kasey:
No offense, you’re being pig-headed about this. He was 46-15, 3.74. Please name all the starters who were better over that 2.5 year period. Go ahead.
Santana, Halladay … Go ahead, name the rest. There are none.
He was throwing 96 the other day and burying the slider. He’s healthy and he’s pitching well. He lost his job because of injury healed. So now he gets his job back. That’s how it works.
Wang is very, very good. The players all wanted this, Cashman, Girardi, Eiland, etc. So they’re all wrong and you’re right?
Clare,
Keith is right, no deal is in place.
I don’t know. Unless there are some real changes in the next 5 days, I think Keith is being optimistic.
I think he is basing too much of his feeling on that meeting.
The Pirates have met with other guys besides Tony.
The guy mentioning Peter Gammons who broke the news about Padilla is what set Mike off
Mike hates everything ESPN, he will do anything to discredit them and their analysts (competing station, don’t let their talent on WFAN)
Pete with a rare foray into the posters’ world.
And furthermore, kasey, perhaps it is absurd for most of us to draw conclusions from Wang’s recent appearances (though no one can deny that the sinker had real bite), but it would be similarly absurd to draw negative conclusions from those three April starts that you keep referencing when we know that the Yanks botched Wang’s rehab and he wasn’t ready for those starts.
Yes, his “everything is fine” comments were silly, but so what? The fact is, he wasn’t ready and the can-do-no-wrong Yankees did wrong in getting him onto the field. Plenty of blame to go around, but there’s no reason to say that we saw the “real” Wang in early April.
Let’s just see how Wang does tomorrow and go from there. He was gonna have to make a start eventually. I’m hoping for the best and that we see the Wang of old and not his evil twin from earlier this season.
I wasn’t thrilled with the Hughes to the pen move, but if it’s just a temporary thing, fine by me.
Hopefully they can get this game in.
I haven’t gotten to read any opinions on this other than Pete’s but I will give my take on the entire matter. Putting this into perspective I don’t know how we can view this as anything but a win-win! Heck people have been upset about our bullpen. Hughes will be tremendous for us; he’s also the 6th starter that we always talk about needing in the bullpen (well I’ve always talked about it.)
The Yankees’ intent is still for Phil to be an eventual starter. I still see him as possibly our number one pitcher in the future. In the meantime we will continue to get experience in the Bronx as opposed to getting sent back.
I just continue to have more and more respect for Girardi’s managing. I think it was obvious to quite a few people that he was brilliantly getting Wang ready to come back into the rotation. He did it at the most prudent times and dealt with Wang’s psyche in all of his decisions. I don’t think you could have drawn it up better. I am really impressed with the intelligence of the way Girardi handled this entire thing with Wang. I also think it was obvious that Wang was headed back to the rotation and that it was going to happen as soon as Girardi had the confidence that Wang was ready.
I am totally elated at this entire outcome.
I read in the last thread that AJ may be suspended for last night’s pitch? Ugh….seriously. I hate Bud.
i agree pete hughes in the bullpen makes the mostsense . he not a better starter than joba and he a 2 pitch pitcher. throw his fastball, then his curvebll, he do great in the pen for the short term
Can Padilla pitch the eighth?
Relax, I kid.
nick,
the yankees actually do know more than i do, i’m sure. but wang had been working with eiland after his first start. then he got destroyed. then he did some more work with eiland. then he got massacred. then he claimed there was nothing wrong with his mechanics while his coaching staff said otherwise. if the guy can’t even be objective enough to identify a flaw in his delivery, of course he’s going to think he’s ready to pitch.
but, you’re right. they had to get him some innings at some point and see if he’s back to his old self. if he is, they just upgraded their rotation immensely at no cost. if not, well, he had plenty of chances to prove he was right.
i don’t think this hurts hughes’ development terribly. as cashman said, they’ll find him innings. but i do think having wang pitch against the sox and mets puts him in a position where he needs to display immediate results or a lot of people are going to have to answer for yanking phil hughes out of the rotation when he was throwing the ball well.
in short, wang better not just be “better” than his putrid starts. he better be back at 100% or he shouldn’t be back at all.
“About time A-Rod starts stepping up and earning his money
It’s been almost 2 weeks since he has hit a HR. All we have been seeing is a bunch of 1-4s and 2 strikeouts a game. Even yesterday he should have hit into a DP
He had a hot streak on the homestand, and has cooled off again. He has to turn it back up and he has to turn it up now.”
Because winning 16 out of 20 isn’t good enough.
here’s hoping he doesn’t hang himself.
kasey – you are dispicable.
Hughes is only in the pen in case our starters blow up.
Thanks Frank and SA!
I love this show. I could watch reruns of it for hours. When i lived at home my dad always made fun of me cause I would watch it every night even though I have seen every episode over and over.
# randy l. June 3rd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
kasey-
so what would you do with wang?
Gigity
Wow about Padilla.
SJ in case nobody mentioned it yet, your stalker was here last night posing as you. I know, at this point, YAWN!
kasey-
i’ll tell you what. for the rest of wang’s career i’ll buy one of your songs on itunes every time wang loses , but you need to send me .99 cents every time he wins.
BBGB, that’s a saying.
“Wang is very, very good. The players all wanted this, Cashman, Girardi, Eiland, etc. So they’re all wrong and you’re right?”
absolutely not. i didn’t see him hit 96 the other night. if i missed that, then my bad. his sinker looked a lot better and he was getting swings and misses on it which is a good sign.
but if three bad outings doesn’t mean wang’s finished, how does one good outing mean he’s all the way back?
Yay Pete. Finally some sense in the crazy posting world.
Let’s just hope it won’t be “OMFG, YUSE to the 7th and JoBBER to the 8th, shorten WINNABLE games to 6 INNINGS HELL YEAH” kinda posts if Hughes does well out of the pen.
I wonder if any of Padilla’s teammates got in his face last night after his antics?
Thanks SJ44.
Do you know anything about Heathcott? All I know is what I’ve posted, and that his role model is Mickey Mantle.
“The team is playing great and they’re making good moves. Stop complaining for the sake of making complaints.”
Thank you pete!
If philly is happy, then I’m happy.
“but if three bad outings doesn’t mean wang’s finished, how does one good outing mean he’s all the way back?”
I get that people are skeptical about him right now, but the guy wasn’t healthy, and he sure didn’t forget how to pitch.
Sometimes you just gotta have faith in the man.
BJK: I don’t know if I ever noticed you posting before the past week or so, but your posts on Joba have been fantastic. Intelligence and humor are a great combo, thank you.
Whoo baseball!
I wonder if Glavine is going to wind up back on the Mets
Sign Padilla and stick him in as an intimidating bullpen guy. He’s nasty!
Even if he doesn’t work out as a pitcher, his mug would scare opposing hitters to the point they would be petrified at the plate. Kinda like Medusa.
Really Rebecca?
randy,
what would i do with wang?
wait until after the red sox series and then get him in the rotation. boston owns him even when he’s healthy.
where did i say i think wang will lose more than he wins the rest of his career? please point that out to me? where did i say the guy wasn’t a good pitcher? i said three solid innings doesn’t convince me he’s back to his old self and that hughes had been pitching well enough to keep his spot.
why is that a crime? i understand that wang is not only a VERY, VERY good pitcher, he’s also beloved by many here. that’s great. but three innings doesn’t show me he’s ready. did his three putrid starts mean he was washed up?
“how does one good outing mean he’s all the way back?”
I missed the part where someone guaranteed that Wang is ‘all the way back’, or that there was any way to prove that before he got a start, or that being ‘all the way back’ was a requisite for getting a start.
Link?
“I read in the last thread that AJ may be suspended for last night’s pitch? Ugh….seriously. I hate Bud.”
If that is the case, then I too hate Bud (I don’t think he’s in charge of suspending guys). Not to sound like GB or Randy, but back in the day things like this were handled on the field (for the most part) and everyone moved on from it. By suspending guys, MLB is just bringing attention to the issue and making it harder for guys to *simply* get it over with.
Kind of reminds me of the steroid issue. If they didn’t have such a sanctimonious, holier-than- thou attitude, than maybe it wouldn’t be such a major issue.
Rebecca, whats the rain situation on Fordham Rd.?
Anbody else worried about swisher playing 1st base tonight??
I haven’t been following much. A lot going on right now. But if Hughes isn’t the starter anymore then when & who is Cervelli going to catch? Or is Posada catching everyday?
I love this show. I could watch reruns of it for hours. When i lived at home my dad always made fun of me cause I would watch it every night even though I have seen every episode over and over.
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Erica-I’m the same way. I think I’ve seen every episode of GG numerous times and if it’s on, I’m still watching. I really need to get the DVDs of that series
another win tonight
Benny Blanco, I heard he’s not a bad first baseman.
nick,
you don’t need a link. just scroll up to pete’s 6:11 update. or, even easier, i’ll repost it here.
“Wang was one of the more effective and durable starters in the majors. He had shown lately that he was back to that level.”
good enough?
Clare,
I heard some stuff about him this past weekend in Austin.
Great talent, horrible home life.
I think teams are trying to figure out how his home life affects him. It’s obviously a very sensitive subject.
He has Top 10 talent though.
S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Erica-I’m the same way. I think I’ve seen every episode of GG numerous times and if it’s on, I’m still watching. I really need to get the DVDs of that series
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My office manager lent me season one a while ago- I kept it for a year and a half and didn’t even feel bad about it.
kasey, he probably showed it in BP sessions as well.
but if three bad outings doesn’t mean wang’s finished, how does one good outing mean he’s all the way back?
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I don’t think anyone is saying definitively he is all the way back. I know I personally am hopeful that he is close to what he once was, but who knows.
Let’s just see how he does tomorrow and take it from there
UPDATE, 6:40 p.m.: Looks like they’re getting ready to pull the tarp. We could have baseball this evening.
UPDATE, 6:48 p.m.: First pitch at 7:15 p.m.
I’m really excited about Montero.
kasey: what you take Pete’s word now?
Wow. Now Asdrubal Cabrera on the DL?
The Pavano Curse lives on!
I hope that Pettitte’s back is healed and he isn’t going out there trying to be a hero and then throwing batting practice.
I expect a perfect game from Wang tomorrow. tHat is the only thing that can convince me.
“Even if he doesn’t work out as a pitcher, his mug would scare opposing hitters to the point they would be petrified at the plate.”
He really does look like a Neanderthal… and an ugly one, at that.
wang coming back will be a process. if he’s consistently good right away that’ll be a plus.
it’s more likely he’ll be up and down with results, but as long as he gets back to being the wang we know after 5-6 starts then it’ll be worth it.
I’m excited about Montero too. I think what I’m most excited about is that in 3 years we’ll be able to say “he’s only 22 years old!”
Clare
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Thanks SJ44.
Do you know anything about Heathcott? All I know is what I’ve posted, and that his role model is Mickey Mantle.
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Mantle was also my role model. Always wanted to play baseball like him. I got half way there. I learned to like Chivas Regal…..a lot.
I think Padilla was an extra on Mel Gibson’s Apocolypto.
“wang coming back will be a process.”
The Cashman influence rears its ugly head.
From what I hear, when Montero comes he won’t just be good. He’ll be unbelievable. Fantastic. Off the charts.
I’m looking forward to it.
The Cards released Tyler Herron – is he worth a shake?
Wang himself said, recently, that he could throw 80 or so pitches and then be ready for 100 his next start. Let’s see what he can do.
Wang wins and throws a lot of innings. For a team that has ‘pen issues Wang should be welcomed back. He’s a great pitcher.
“I think Padilla was an extra on Mel Gibson’s Apocolypto.”
SJ44
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Clare,
I heard some stuff about him this past weekend in Austin.
Great talent, horrible home life.
I think teams are trying to figure out how his home life affects him. It’s obviously a very sensitive subject.
He has Top 10 talent though.
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Growing up with a family background like that sounds nearly identical to that of Rick Ankiel.
If Andy’s back isn’t well tonight,guess who’s coming in?
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http://thunderbaseball.wordpre.....sus-walks/
im listening to the thunder game..this should be fun
wilkins de la rosa pitching to jesus montero!! exciting!
But I don’t understand something here. Any time any other starter gets back into the rotation after being DLd, I don’t remember anywhere in major league baseball people saying that if the pitcher was not 100% effective it was a problem or a mistake. Quite the opposite. In fact more often than not what you see is a pitcher on a pitch count working his way back in. I guess I don’t remember the last time I saw someone come off the DL and throw a no hitter.
As always, the one thing I DO know is that the Yankees made it to first place in the AL East, despite a spate of injuries that continue, and they did it based on decisions made not here but in the Yankee organization. No matter what Wang does his first start back, there won’t be any part of me thinking that the Yankees got it wrong and skeptical posters got it right. Everything is a process.
here’s my point:
after the first start it was, “that’s an aberration, he’ll be fine.”
then he got killed.
then it was, “it’s a mechanical thing, he’ll be fine.”
then he got killed.
then it was, “it’s an injury, he’ll rehab it.”
then he was lights out in the minors but was still quite hittable out of the pen.
then he threw a few very good innings.
now all of a sudden we’re supposed to believe he’ll have a great outing tomorrow? sorry. i’m not buying it.
the red sox had been tough on him in his career, even when he was healthy. that’s just not a situation i want to see wang in coming back from an injury unless we know for sure he’s right. if he gets beat up tomorrow by texas, i hope cashman and co have the good sense to keep him out of that boston start because if wang strings together a couple more bad starts, his confidence is shot and the team’s confidence in him is damaged further. that helps no one.
starting this game is a waste of time.
SJ can you please repeat the update on your nephew, only because I’ve seen congratulations but don’t know the particulars. Thanks!
Nick in SF
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
BJK: I don’t know if I ever noticed you posting before the past week or so, but your posts on Joba have been fantastic. Intelligence and humor are a great combo, thank you.
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Thanks, Nick. I’d been content as a silent observer for a couple of years. But after reading some of the Joba silliness chatter, I couldn’t help myself.
Then it gets kind of addictive. : )
Just curious does anyone know if Montero speaks english?
No habla
What joy it is to see smiling Yankee players.
Also, I want to add that the person who probably understands this better than anyone else is Phil Hughes. I am sure he gets it. He’s a professional and he knows he is part of their future as a member of the rotation. You know that he knew he was there as a replacement for Wang. My guess is that he’d much rather be with the team than not – though I can’t be sure of course.
trisha – sj’s nephew is one of three finalists for the johnny bench award, which goes to college baseball’s best catcher.
1 base stolen off montero…announcers say it was a clean transfer and a good throw but the baserunner got a really good jump
What do people think of Swisher in the #2 spot and Damon as #3??? I think Swisher in #3 might have been a better move- he could probably get some great pitches to hit with A-Rod behind him
Trisha, he’s one of 3 finalists for the Johnny Bench Award, given annually to the best catcher in College Baseball.
He’s the first BC player to ever be a finalist for a major college baseball award.
Wow kase, thanks for that! I just got goosebumps. SJ, for whatever it’s worth, I teared up when I read that. It’s like he’s a member of our family too.
ANDY PETTITE IS A STARTING PITCHAH!!!!
ANDY PETTITTE IS A STARTING PITCHER!
Go Andy
It’s so much that Andy is a stahtin pitcha’ than that Joba is ATROCIOUS!
kasey
June 3rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
trisha – sj’s nephew is one of three finalists for the johnny bench award, which goes to college baseball’s best catcher.
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I would give him the award just for catching all 25 innings this week
Is it me, or are the seats behind the plate even more EMPTY than usual?!
GJ ANDY!!!
Detroit off to a good start. Down 0-2 already…
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
kimmiebruce
June 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Is it me, or are the seats behind the plate even more EMPTY than usual?!
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its wet outside- the people are probably in the rich people’s restaurant or something
“why is that a crime? i understand that wang is not only a VERY, VERY good pitcher, he’s also beloved by many here. that’s great. but three innings doesn’t show me he’s ready. did his three putrid starts mean he was washed up?”==============
First of all, wang has pitched 5 scoreless innings since returning to the yankeess. The yankees were not going to start him unless they felt extremely confident about where his stuff is at this point.
I’m not worried about Wang’s start against boston or the mets because we could still win the series despite losing the first game. If Phil gets smacked around in those series, you will all (including myself) rent a van and personally drive him back to scranton.
A couple things to remember:
1) Andy Pettite is 5-1. Some of you were killing andy about not accepting the yankees first inital offer and didnt want him back. Judging by the way he’s perfroming now, he will earn every incentive in his contract this year.
2)Dice -k Started 0-3 this year and got his first victory after a stint from the DL.
3)I too jumped on the GGBG Bandwagon in ST, even though melky was still close to my heart. Last year melky ate humble pie and had to prove to the yankees that he was their everyday starter. He earned his spot back.
4) Phil Hughes Vs Wang, Melky Vs Brett, swisher versus nady. This is a good thing because it will keep players on there toes. When Nady returns, he will have to earn his spot back, its as simple as that.
Great arm Johnny lol
man, jim leyland must be rolling in his grave at this tigers team.
ha ha remember what pete said damon was a decent left fielder . . .
that’s embarrasing. damon has to make that throw.
I’m just concerned about the way Joe may use Phil. An inning or two here, 3 or 4 there? This could kill his arm – Phil isn’t used to this and he hasn’t been prepared for this.
So weak…come on JD. Petitte looks bad so far.
WANG 6-5 4.82 era against boston. Thats not terrible.. 6.50era is.
1-1 4.96 era against the mets.
kasey
June 3rd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
man, jim leyland must be rolling in his grave at this tigers team.
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when did he die?
jesus montero first ab in AA= infield pop up
Oh Andy..
He did not die bru…I am not sure what Kasey was thinking at the time he posted that.
Leadoff walk……This Texas lineup is going to work Pettite over…..Tough assignment for the veteran lefty
bru,
it was a joke. leyland’s alive and well.
Phil Hughes is 0-1 6.75 era against boston, and has not faced the mets yet.
lets bring in wang
i really need to explain that joke? leyland’s 100 years old and he smokes a pack a day.
kasey: fair enough. Hopefully Wang will convince you on the field. I’m already there.
c’mon Andy. This is not good
Oh boy base loaded already.
(If Andy blows up today, who comes in to pitch in long relief? Maybe Hughes will get his chance after all)
I never understood why managers announce starting pitchers pitch count limits prior to the game. It doesn’t feel like very good strategy to tell the opposing team they only need to see CMW for 80 pitches.
boy a double play here would be nice.
Sigh…..just the kind of start I was hoping for. I hope Andy’s ok……
Can’t believe Andruw Jones actually scored a run lol
Nice melk man!
Melky throws like damon
well that was ugly…hopefully the bats are awake
Melky
I wish Pettitte could be the 1 taken out of the rotation. He is the pitcher who has average stuff and always has 2 guys on base every inning. Am I wrong or does this happen every start you just don’t know if he will get out of the inning or not?
Oh boy…
Paging Phil Hughes
boy, that’s a bit of a hole to put your team in. hopefully they can bail andy out and he’ll settle down.
Oh nicely done Melky!
26 pitches for Andy
I’m waiting for someone to say send andy to swb…lol
After, I show love to AP in a previous post, he gives up 3runs on 3hits in the first inning.
Bad back
Honestly, these days, Pettitte is basically a 5 or 6 inning guy, giving up about 4 runs. It seems like it is the same deal every start. Except unlike tonight, he usually gives up the runs later in the game.
paging mr. hughes, paging mr. hughes! mr. hughes, please report to the mound!
Hopefully Andy calms down
Betsy,
Why would you think Joe Girardi would abuse Phil?
That’s not even remotely possible.
That’s not going to happen.
There are other things worth worrying about with the Yankees. Like Andy Pettitte being too spooked by the new stadium to throw strikes.
great throw by melky.
arod made another high tag.
i wonder why he does that.
it seems like sometimes the ump is going to see the runner get their foot in there as arod puts on the high tag.
nick,
if you haven’t been, go to pirate cat radio cafe on 21st in sf. try the maple bacon latte.
Are you kidding me Rachel? Seriously, Pettitte out of the rotation? In the words of Mike Francese, “ANDY IS A STARTAH!!!!”
Can we give Andy the benefit of the doubt that he will settle down?
I meant Francesa
Let’s just call that Andy’s ‘AJ Inning’ and tee off on Feldman.
The only way yanks dont score at least 3 runs is if this kid is hallady.
Can someone tell me why John Sterling called Feldman the scooter. I got sick hearing that.
Nick Swishaaaaaaaaaa
chea!
Is there anyone slower than Swisher. LOL Looks like he was running in quick sand.
Pettitte not getting the outside corner calls. Could be a long night, or maybe a rainout before the 5th.
Feldman shut us down last year, I believe.
Pettitte ought to be the starter in jeopardy of being taken out of the rotation. I am tired of watching him pitch 5/6 innings and giving up 8 hits and 4 walks.
It is time for Andy to pitch well or be removed from the rotation and not keep being given the right to be a starter b/c he is Andy.
Treat him like Wang if need be.
Lets hope the weather holds up because this will be a 9-8 sort of game.
OMG..Swisher hitting…in yankee stadium of all places.
It seems like Pettitte’s stuff is garbage every start. He has guys on base every inning and against a decent to good hitting team those runs will come around to score. Or he just barely gets out of it.
“Can we give Andy the benefit of the doubt that he will settle down?”
Meanwhile, Galarraga hasn’t been having a good year. Detroit is really going to have to get to Beckett if Detroit is to be successful tonight.
21st and… Valencia? Sounds familiar.
Andy Pettitte Truthers? Already?
I really want to make a quart of wonton soup appear at my door. Delivery minimums are the bane of my existance
A-Rod!!!
Quick, somebody whine about Jeter tapping the ball back to the mound and that should cover everyone to ever wear a Yankee uniform being complained about on this thread.
Some people really can’t handle the Yankees being on a good run because they have to find something to whine about.
RBI for Alex!
3-1
SJ (if that’s you?) I didn’t mean to imply that Joe would abuse Phil – no way. I just meant that if Phil is used in different ways, it could hurt him because his arm is not used to that.
Is Andy ok or are people just panicking? If he’s struggling, that’s one thing…….but if his back looks like it was acting up, that’s another.
Hey pete!!!, Arod is now 7-27. haha
It’s an A-single… from A-Rod!!!
I hope no Japanese cities were named in any broadcast.
Good thing there were 2 outs otherwise Swish never would of scored with his Molina speed…lol
Man that arod’s so unclutch! He should’ve willed Johnny on base, and then hit a homerun to tie the game himself!
Robbie Cano not getting a hit, don’t ya know
Andy is too spooked at the new stadium. Leads to him pitching too tentatively. 2 walks in the first isn’t good.
Just has to pitch his game and not get caught up in the ballpark.
It is official: Cano is allergic to the 2nd pitch in an at bat…
Brave traded for Nate Mclouth:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....louth.html
Am I the only one who thinks the rotation should be CC, AJ, Joba, Wang, Hughes?
I’m sorry, but Pettitte is the weak link in this rotation, he’s giving up hits and walks like crazy all year.
The only reason he isn’t being yanked is because of his name, nothing to do with his pitching.
Obviously that’s not SJ, lol…..whoever the imposter is needs to do a better job as SJ would never say something as stupid as Andy being spooked in YS, lol
Am I the only person who wants to call Scott Feldman “Corey?”
Bizzaro SJ is back!
I wonder if he too is Goateed
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KA5p....._spock.jpg
If pettie gives up no more that 5 runs, the yankees win the game.
Wow, Braves just acquired Nate McLouth
“Brave traded for Nate Mclouth:”
Oh no…Francesa is gonna cry
Makes you think that maybe Alex had that hip thing going on for quite a while…
Mclouth to the braves for 3 top prospects.
Is this the real SJ? Blink once for yes twice for no.
At this pace (everyone needing to get out of the rotation), Igawa will be called up shortly.
wow mclouth traded
Hey guys, I just got home so im sorry if I am behind. But if this Phil Hughes move something for a few weeks or is this til the end of the season? (that is barring, there isnt an injury to the starting rotation).
is tonight the masquerade ball? we should all just post the same name…SJ44 ok with everyone?
McCuthchen will be playing center field for the Pirates.
Pete — Kay just said Padilla had been put on waivers.
2 errors in two nights….
Great job Pettitte…
I’m thinking I’m going to go out and get me a cheesburger and some sweet potato fries. I don’t know if I can stand a four-hour game without any food in my stomach…
Be back
I hope Andy can make it through 5 at least – I really don’t relish burning the pen again. He needs to hold the fort and give his teammates a chance to come back….
Hey guys, I just got home so im sorry if I am behind. But if this Phil Hughes move something for a few weeks or is this til the end of the season? (that is barring, there isnt an injury to the starting rotation).
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Temporary move. At the most it will be for 2 weeks.
Brave traded for Nate Mclouth:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHHMNZf2zg
A certain someone loving in Long Island is gonna start following the Braves more closely
Did you guys see Paul McCartney is playing CitiField on July 17th & 18th?? Finally, a good reason to go to Flushing
loving=living
kinsler has a very good plate coverage and stance. very balanced.
Andy ; /
PASS A LUNGING SWISHER!!!
“Did you guys see Paul McCartney is playing CitiField on July 17th & 18th?? Finally, a good reason to go to Flushing”
If you go to that ballpark, wear a hazmat suit.
Damn
Did Oneil just basically say he played right field in little league? And here i thought right field was for the player who just needed to be baby sat for those hours.
You mean 5-1 with a 4.10 ERA in the AL isn’t good John?
Way to make one bad outing cloud your thinking.
It’s not nearly to that point yet, but we may just have to let Andy get killed this game (and give the game up) in order to save the pen.
Andy is sucking tonight
lets go offense and Ace because he will be coming in soon.
Can’t expect to shut the Rangers offense down if the pitcher and catcher are making errors and not throwing ANY runners out.
Just want to say though that I agree with SJ about Andy’s fear of the Stadium. He has already stated that he thinks pitchers have to be really careful with what they throw.
Please – no steal of home. It took me about a week to get over Ellsbury doing that to Andy while the rest of the world watched.
(And the only question as far as I’m concerned is how long Joe is going to stay with Andy tonight.)
Some nights you ust don’t have it.
Later y’all
andy is keeping us in the game
what a battler!
pettitte is on his game tonight.
“I’m thinking I’m going to go out and get me a cheesburger and some sweet potato fries.”
I have no clue what one puts on the travesty that is sweet potato fries.
It is tough to watch Andy pitch.
I hope he gets better soon b/c he is an embarrassment.
Bye Andy, get out of the game.
man. i’m going to pass on watching this game. hope y’all enjoy it.
Why did we give this bum $10 million? Stick Pettitte in the pen, don’t let him get his incentives, and put Hughes in the rotation.
Paging Mr Phil Hughes.
Paging Mr Phil Hughes.
You’re needed on the mound to replace a hurting Andy.
vin – vinegar for me. They offer cinnamon if you want it.
They’re actually quite good!
No more runs Andy.
If Andy Pettitte wasn’t “Andy Pettitte” I would have to think that taking him out of the rotation would definitely be addressed…If this batting practice continues for another start or 2. His stuff is pure garbage now.
Pettittttttttttte!!!!
Joe I
June 3rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
If you go to that ballpark, wear a hazmat suit.
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Hahaha, I already have swine flu
5.5 million.
Why is Andy Pettitte’s insistence on taking the ball when he’s not right considered heroic???
When the Yankees CLEARLY have healthier and better options, intentionally sacrificing your team’s chances does not make you a hero
See, no runs would have scored in that inning if it wasn’t for the error.
After I give andy major kudos, he flakes on me.
I question swisher’s glove and ball gets passed him that tex would have gotten to (you can make the argument).
I’m pro-Andy and I vote.
kasey
June 3rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
man. i’m going to pass on watching this game. hope y’all enjoy it.
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Kasey makes this post. Pettitte gets the double play. Are these two occurances related?? only time will tell.
(Only teasing Kasey!!)
I hope Ace is ready to come in. Doesn’t look like Andy is getting his calls.
If we want any hope of having a chance to be in this game, we need to get Pettitte out of the game now.
Thank you Andrue Jones
“And here i thought right field was for the player who just needed to be baby sat for those hours.”
No kidding. The RF probably got 1 ball every 3 games when I was in little league… and that was usually a grounder that rolled past the second baseman.
a 2nd guy steals against montero but the announcers are really making it sound like hes doing everything he can…they are stealing first move off WDR and he doesnt have much of a chance…he just made an apparent nice play on a nubber in front of the plate
Ugly – the Yankees get a run back and Andy proceeds to give it up……
“If Andy Pettitte wasn’t “Andy Pettitte” I would have to think that taking him out of the rotation would definitely be addressed…If this batting practice continues for another start or 2. His stuff is pure garbage now.”
We should take a page out of the Braves playbook and treat his washed up a$$ like Tom Glavine.
Come on yanks. And Beckett is starting to get a groove.
My head is throbbing already.
Jeter’s jump on the DP was hilarious. He and Cano are expecting a payback…
“Hahaha, I already have swine flu
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So, you’ve already been to Citi Field?
IF Andy was still hurting and he took the ball, I would be MORE than annoyed at him……I’m sort of surprised the Yankees didn’t just skip his start…….Still, I have no proof that Andy was/is still hurting, so I’m not going to kill him.
Who got the WWE belt last night? Was it Jorge?
“vin – vinegar for me. They offer cinnamon if you want it.
They’re actually quite good!”
I’ll have to take your word for it. Sweet Potatoes revolt me.
Is this only going to be a 5 inning game? Because some of you are already throwing in the towel in the 2nd inning when we have the 2nd most potent offense in the league. Some of you act like youv never seen a Yankee comeback. Yes Pettitte sucks today, but we’re not facing Bob Gibson.
Andy is still 5-1, right? They haven’t retroactively taken away any of his wins because of tonight yet, have they?
Joe I
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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
“Hahaha, I already have swine flu
So, you’ve already been to Citi Field?
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No, I have absolutely no idea how I picked this up. But I was teasing one of my friends and I told her I had a fabulous night with David Wright
“I’ll have to take your word for it. Sweet Potatoes revolt me.”
You’re not human.
I actually hope Pettitte’s back is still bothering him, because that would mean he won’t pitch like this (and the way he pitched in CLE) all year.
Hi everyone. It’s taken me an hour to catch up here, while watching the game.
So, Andy’s having a bit of a tough night, huh? Oh, well.
Offense is going to have to pick him up. He’s gonna have to get it together and keep Texas at 4 runs, though.
I don’t think he’s spooked by the stadium. I think he’s having a bad night.
So, letting Glavine go now makes sense. They freed up money to pay McClouth. Poor Glavine – I heard he was surprised to say the least. I was listening to the radio. Heard a report that Glavine said he was ready to be activated, pitching well, etc. Went to dinner. Got in the car turned on the radio and Glavine was released. Baseball business is so unpredictable much of the time.
SJ44 -
Congratulations to your nephew. You all must be very proud of him. I hope all goes well from here on out.
Not a great inning for the Yankees. This is not exactly doing the job. On we go.
Two months ago I planned my trip to Yankee Stadium tomorrow. A day game in the Bronx then up to Cooperstown Friday then back home to Maryland.
Then rain is forcasted
Then Texiera is day to day
Then Sabathia is pushed back by Wang
What next? Will the Yankees decide to play at Citi and I’ll get stuck watching a Mets game?
Are you guys insane? Andy has the most Wins on the team and had a sub 4 ERA
crap
Great job making Feldman work. Nice seven-pitch inning. Just terrible.
I don’t like the fact that my alter ego is anti-Pettitte. It’s kind of a weird feeling.
SOS, I’m not throwing in the towel, but Andy HAS to give the team a chance to come back. If he gives up another 3 or 4 runs, that’s asking a lot even of these Yankees.
As annoying as Michael Kay can be, the YES broadcast is so much better than any alternative.
Unfortunately, YES is blocked out for me (since I’m in TX) and I’m stuck with the Rangers’ guys, who just spent waaaaay too long discussing a guy in orange pants.
they should get fined for not taking the first pitch. I would say the same if he hit a home run. It’s just a bad habit.
Who has a sub 4 ERA?
pettitte did not have a sub 4 era.
Betsy what does it matter if cano and melky are making outs on the first pitch.
anyone think that andy will make his next start…??
“No, I have absolutely no idea how I picked this up. But I was teasing one of my friends and I told her I had a fabulous night with David Wright”
Very funny, but I think your fabulous nights would be better spent with Beckett, Youkilis or Pedroia. Not at once though, it’s bad enough that you’re sick. In all seriousness, I hope you’re feeling better. Get well soon!
may need hughes to pitch today.
Something has to be wrong with Pettitte physically, because the only time his command was this bad was in that last start against Cleveland.
““I’ll have to take your word for it. Sweet Potatoes revolt me.”
You’re not human.
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To me, this reads like you are attempting to have a playful/normal discourse. Forgive me for being caught off-guard, I’m just confused since you’ve been posting such ridiculous nonsense up until now.
so is anyone warming up, yet…waaaaay too many balls
vin,
I remember coaching 13-15 year olds and my right fielder didnt get a hit ALL YEAR. He couldnt catch a pop fly and the only way he got on base was if he didnt swing and accidently walked. The funny part was when his parents asked me why i didnt try him out at second. I responded because he would go home with a black eye and it wouldnt look pretty going to school like that.
Oneil must be the only guy in history to play right field in little league and make it to the show. Maybe they wont ask to play 2nd base anymore.
Clearly the back is hurting Andy him being a tough guy is hurting the yankees now should have just let Wang started
Pitch count too high Andy!!
4.10 ERA. close enough
55 pitches already?
The whole “is this just a night where Pettitte doesn’t have it” thing is getting tired. It is that way with every single one of his starts it seems like. Wow, great, he is such a battler. Only 4 runs in 3 innings so far. Let us throw him a parade for being so tough. Lol. Give me a break.
batting practice continues.
Aceves tonight?
“Are you guys insane? Andy has the most Wins on the team and had a sub 4 ERA”
He definitely didn’t a have a sub 4 ERA and W-L is a team stat and basically worthless for comparing individual pitchers. Quit looking at the game like you’re in 8th grade.
Joe I
June 3rd, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Very funny, but I think your fabulous nights would be better spent with Beckett, Youkilis or Pedroia. Not at once though, it’s bad enough that you’re sick. In all seriousness, I hope you’re feeling better. Get well soon
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Thanks I appreciate it. I am actually feeling much better since my last nap today.
And I would never hook up with a Red Sox. Even if its just to infect them
so really – I don’t care nearly as much about the walks/balls than the actual pitch count…
This is bad
small m: I think Big M has said he’s from New Hampshire (?) and is not trying to impersonate you. I always know when it’s you.
why is not someone up in the bullpen. It’s obvious that he doens’t have anything today. why give up a game?
I’m stuck at work listening to Sterling – is Pettitte pitching as poorly as it sounds, or are they hitting good pitches?
ugh… pull the plug already.
apparently incentive bonuses are more important to him right now.
Michael Kay- “Pettite might be having one of those days.” The problem is that Pettite lately has been “having one of those seasons.”
why in the world are they swinging…esp at the first pitch
Floppin
What a disaster this is becoming.
Apparently Andy is hurt, he just won’t admit it.
The “Wang” effect.
Pettitte has a 4.8 K/9 (lowest of his career) and a 1.48 K/BB (lowest since 1999). He’s washed up.
They should just leave Pettitte out there and let him give up 15 runs if he does. Instead of wasting Aceves in a blow out. Let Tomko and Veras pitch in this game and just give it up.
“I don’t like the fact that my alter ego is anti-Pettitte. It’s kind of a weird feeling.”
Thank goodness “M” wasn’t you. I thought you developed a dislike of the lefty and an inflated ego by capitalizing yourself all at the same time.
anything else
if pettitte is hurt fine his ass.
he lied to the manager and risked a loss for the team..
he said he was fine…………………..
What is Girardi waiting for? Us to be behind 13-1??? Pettitte has no chance out there today. He has to go. Preferably while it’s still a game.
on field delay?
Hey AB, quit knocking a pitcher who isn’t awful and quit being a 2 inning fan. Anyone check out how good this offense is? Put up 12 runs last night.. you remember that one?
More brilliance from the TX guys – Melky MAY have the best arm in the Yankee outfield. Gee, ya think?
Sorry Rachel, you can’t give games up in the AL East. One game could mean the difference in the division or wild card or making the playoffs at all.
JohnC
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Maybe they don’t want Hughes lined up to have to pitch in Boston next week.
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Yea, much better to have Pettite in there instead. Thrilled that it seems the old Wang is back but have to wonder how well veteran loyalty over the good of the team ends up sitting with our younger guys. The wrong current starter went to the pen.
he missed a bat.
Nick,
Nah. I’m not accusing him of that. Just feels weird. I thought there’d be some kind of interweb kinship.
need aceves asap. Pettitte is obviously not pitching well.
If Petitte IS hurting, then I’m angry he insisted on pitching. It doesn’t show it’s tough, it just hurts the team. We do have an extra starter right now.
Am I the only one that thinks the Texas manager looks like he has a bottle of jack daniels next to him.
if these guys are so stupid they do not inform management when the yare hurting they need to be fined a ton…….
vin June 3rd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
I’m stuck at work listening to Sterling
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You have my sympathies.
Andy not doing too great today.
Rishi,
Jorge got hit in the back with a swing of the bat by Byrd. He went reeling a bit, but he’s back behind the plate.
Are they stealing on Posada or the pitchers these past 2 games? Im starting to think Posada might need more time DHing.
Isnt the batter out on interferance play?
This is the game right here.
Looks like Pettitte’s offspeed stuff is much better than his fastball. Kind of like Burnett’s start against Philly where they smacked his fastball for homeruns but he got a lot of K’s on his curveball.
nice job Macho Man Pettitte throwing a game because you refused to be skipped
There ya go Andy. 1 more
“I don’t like the fact that my alter ego is anti-Pettitte. It’s kind of a weird feeling.”
Don’t feel bad, my alter ego sports the capital “V” and he has a habit of coming here once the game starts and making 11 year-old comments.
not that I’m not thankful – but SWINGING STRIKES…are they crazy?
Wow Andy 65 pitches in the 3rd already
Rishi,
attempted double steal, batter hit Posada on the backswing. Trainer came out, as did TX manager to argue the call. One good thing by the TX announcers was they got out the rulebook, and read the rule about inadvertent contact on the batter’s backswing when a runner is stealing means the runner goes back, but it’s just a strike, not an out on the batter. If it’s intentional it’s an out.
I just learned something new.
Of course Andy wants to pitch, this year his contract is incentive driven. Andy’s a gamer but if he’s not 100% he should just admit it.
Agree with you, Stuart. It’s one thing for Jete to play hurt — but our pitcher??!
“Hey AB, quit knocking a pitcher who isn’t awful and quit being a 2 inning fan. Anyone check out how good this offense is? Put up 12 runs last night.. you remember that one?”
Andy Pettitte is mediocre and has been for years. The only reason he’s on this team is because guys like you like to root for the past and watch you’re favorite dudes even if they suck. I just want to win.
Nice work this inning. Gotta keep it up and get those runs in!
Nice Andy! That was the turnaround inning. I can sense these things
Pat,
Haha. My head has gotten so capital!
Okay. That’s more like it. Maybe he can get on track now, and 3 runs down isn’t too bad.
If my memory serves me, Pettitte always starts slow, so I think it’s too early to say “he’s done.”
With that said, I think someone should be up in the pen. They still have a chance to win this game–no sense giving it away.
If my memory serves me, Pettitte always starts slow, so I think it’s too early to say “he’s done.”
With that said, I think someone should be up in the pen. They still have a chance to win this game–no sense giving it away.
that posada play was called “unintentional” interference that’s why the runner was not called out. Kay just said it.
Finally — but look at his freakin’ pitch count (67).
Andy battled back that inning
Nice bounceback for Pettitte. We need to plate some runs now, hope Pettitte can give us 5 innings, then roll with Aceves.
Um… the Pirates just traded Nate McLouth to the braves. i guess we know what Mike’d Up will be about tomorrow.
Maybe that on-field delay was a nice shot of cortisone to his back.
The LoHud tide has vociferously turned against Andy Pettitte, our gritty veteran #4 starter who has not given up more then 5 earned runs in a single one of his 10 starts, something that cannot be said for CC, AJ, or Hughes.
The Yankees are 8-2 in those starts.
The Yankees are down 3 runs in this start thus far. Not a prime position, but not out of reach either.
Maybe, just maybe, the 5-1 Pettitte is not absolutely, completely, totally washed up yet. Even in this game.
More brilliance from the TX guys – Melky MAY have the best arm in the Yankee outfield. Gee, ya think?
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Thats almost as funny as Oniel(i believe)saying that it was heads up running by Posada not to take a step to second on the shattered bat. Like he meant to be stone footed on that play.
Sometimes Pettitte doesn’t hold runs well but they are running on Posada not the pitcher. It happened yesterday also they stole any chance they had on Posada. He is going to have to start throwing out runners or they can’t play him behind the plate and he will have to DH. If he can’t get average runners out how is he going to get the speedsters?
Beckett 4innings 0 hits
HEY EVERYONE BECKETT IS THROWING A PERFECT GAME> I HOPE I DIDN’T JINX IT.
I apologize for that post…all wonky
Let’s hope you’re right, Nick in SF. I love Petitte, but you have to be honest about your health. He IS pitching against Texas today. Those guys can bash the ball.
“Or Wang could pitch poorly, and Hughes could be back in the rotation.”
Or Pettitte could pitch poorly, and Hughes could be back in the rotation?? While watching Pettitte struggle tonight I’ve been looking back at his performance this year and it’s obvious he has struggled after turning in three stellar starts to begin the season. Since April 21st (excluding tonight) here are his numbers:
ERA – 4.89
WIP – 1.72
BB/9 – 4.46
IP/GS – 6
I’m not sure how much his health is influencing his performance, but hopefully this is just a short-term slump.
AB,
Last year he was our #2. This year he is our #4. Name me a #4 who is better / more consistent then Pettitte statistically & historically. I’m sure you’ll be hard pressed to find someone who gives you that kind of IP, League Average ERA, and who happens to be a lefty that can pitch with the benefit of a cavernous left field in Yankee Stadium.
Oh, by the way. Pettitte has made 10 Starts this year. How many of those games have the Yankees won? 8 of them.
If you want to win, shut your mouth, and get behind your team.
and now we are back to all bold?
Are we Bold and Beautiful again?
I sure hope I don’t have to read about what a “warrior” Andy Pettitte is tomorrow…
Intentionally crapping all over your own team when you;re not healthy does’t make you a warrior. It makes you a self-involved idiot!
braves gave up Jeff Locke and Charlie Morton and center fielder Gorkys Hernandez for Nate McLouth. Too much?
m: I think the New Hampshire state motto is “Pitch to below a 3.75 ERA or die.”
Harsh!
Leadoff walk to Gardner… top of the order has to make Feldman pay. Could be an important inning.
Pete – What’s up with that?
Mehdi also in SF
June 3rd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
HEY EVERYONE BECKETT IS THROWING A PERFECT GAME> I HOPE I DIDN’T JINX IT.
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I hope you did
The bold has sthg to do with Rishi’s earlier “wonky” post — the code changed somehow for the site. UGH.
Girardi must of kicked Gardner in the butt from what happened the other day. Like young man you have legs use them right away in the count or you are going back to AAA.
“Oh, by the way. Pettitte has made 10 Starts this year. How many of those games have the Yankees won? 8 of them.
If you want to win, shut your mouth, and get behind your team.”
Wins and Losses are a team stat. Pettitte is not a good pitcher. He’s at best league average.
Rishi’s fault. *
I think standing by Andy Pettitte is the bold thing to do and LoHud is endorsing that.
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That is why you play Gardner and bat in front of Jeter. A six pitch walk and then a steal. All of you Gardner haters keep doubting the small ball. Even when the kid goes 0-? he can still be producting as he did the other night going 0-2 and accounting for 2 o the 5 runs.
Swish can you just put the ball in play please…
Feldman will not win today ND..we will win.
* *go away bold*
June 3rd, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Mehdi also in SF
June 3rd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
HEY EVERYONE BECKETT IS THROWING A PERFECT GAME> I HOPE I DIDN’T JINX IT.
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I hope you did
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he walked polanco in the first inning
This is funky.
man – I think I did it last time, too!
SORRY!
AB,
In Pettitte’s last six starts the Yankee’s have scored an average of 6.5 runs per game.
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What’s the league average for the team’s 4th/5th starter?
How many of those starters have not given up more than 5 ER in any start (and Pettitte has done it twice out of ten starts)?
The blog encouraging the Yankees to be bold?
“Intentionally crapping all over your own team when you;re not healthy does’t make you a warrior”
Who is to say that he is still hurt? When you have average stuff and you are missing your spots and leaving the ball right over the plate you are going to get smacked around.
# bold off!
m: I think the New Hampshire state motto is “Pitch to below a 3.75 ERA or die.”
Harsh!
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I thought it was or your the 8th inning guy?
Well, now I know how to make the box thing.
IF I MAY BE SO BOLD, I DARE SAY THE YANKEES WIN THIS GAME
Beckett no hitter thru 5
BOLD!
AROD…….I smell a granny
Yet another bases loaded situation for Arod. Come on Arod do it for Kate!!! lol
Andy: Bold as Love
put this ball boldly where no ball has gone before
let’s get something from this
that was a bold swing
Pour out some wine
cmon arod!!! 3-1…
Fail
A-ROD why
wow………
Can’t wait until Alex finishes ST. Stupid torn labrum…
Are you kidding me, Alex? Really??
wow what luck
A-rod…rally killer.
swing at ball 4
kill the rally
That seems about right. Double play off a guy who is just begging to walk a run in. Thanks A-Rod.
Oh, no. No, no, no.
He’s not up to speed yet or he would have beat that throw, but Alex, Alex, Alex.
Well as oldie but goodie
rats
ughughugh
wow – unbelievable…but there is still time if Andy can just chill here
is it me or is a rod incapable of hitting with the bases loaded?
WTh is wrong with arod?
Why would anyone expect anything else. Was that even a strike? Ofcourse instead of a small swing trying to do too much. Girardi should give him a day off tomorrow he is useless right now.
what was that? the 3rd or 4th bases loaded situation for A-Rod over the past few games and zilch! ugh!
that was ball four
Damn, I hate bases-loaded DPs.
No team other than the Yankees. NO TEAM IN BASEBALL BLOWS THIS MANY CHANCES WITH RUNNERS AT 3RD, LESS THAN 2 OUTS.
Just terrible, and he swung at ball 4 too in a 3-1 count. He didnt even bust it down the line. Disgraceful.
If they lose the game tonight, it will be because of that terrible at bat. Pettitte is shutting them down now, but if you refuse to chip away, the other team will tack on and put you away.
YOU HAD TO SCORE AT LEAST ONE THERE, and they scored ZERO. This team beats itself, plain and simple. If they did the LITTLE THINGS right they would be 20 games over .500.
Every game they lose is because of situations like that where they don’t score when the other pitcher is BEGGING to be lit up.
The Rally Killer strikes again. This time no one was able to aid him with a takeout slide.
If I may be so bold as to suggest that this is the inning that Beckett will lose his no hitter…
does Alex realize he didn’t get one strike.
WOW ALEX WOW 3-1 COUNT!!!!!!
You knew that was going to happen.
And when it starts happening, it gets into his head.
Why do you think Tex was hit twice yesterday? Because Alex fails when the pressure is on.
I would want anyone but him up in those situations.
Game off.
27 MILLION ,don’t buy what it use to Alex!
Alex has failed several times the past couple of games with bases loaded. Please — anybody BUT him needs to come up with bases loaded.
And what is your crying gonna do help us win the game?
wow…arod is responsible for the yanks 1 run today…he failed there but come on…
Not even a strike, it was ball 4…Pathetic..
the Anti-Clutch is back!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just what we’ve come to expect from the Great One.
It’s not over yet… a seven run inning only one day ago… how soon we forget
Does this team know what a sac fly is? Sometimes it feels like they all just want to jack a HR.
lead-off walk?
surprising.
Of course, I’m used to his ineptness in pressure at this point. Too bad the bases weren’t empty when he came up to bat. Maybe he’d at least hit a home run and scored one run…
!* *! !* *! !! turn off
Arod has stranded about 200 million runners in the past two games, but dont fret, he will be ok. Let him get this out his system now.
bold, stop. bold. bold.
If A-Rod KEEPS THE BAT ON HIS SHOULDER, a run scores and the Yankees have Cano up with the tying run in scoring position.
Does he not get it? Every time he’s up there with the bases loaded he tries to hit a grand slam and hits into a double play or strikes out.
The pitcher just walked 2 in a row. He is behind you 3-1. Bases are loaded. TAKE A PITCH. Jesus christ.
Sure, Matt whatever you say.
tampa and boston are winning
*! off
!* off
Has Arod hit one ball hard with the bases loaded all year? He’s been up about 5 times in that situation in just the last week, and all I remember is one bleeding hit.
I can’t imagine Morneau, Pujols, or any other great hitter getting 4-5 opportunities with the bases loaded in one week and not ever getting the ball out of the infield.
Yankees will win this game!
3 times in 2 games just disgrace ….
Andy put too much pressure on Arod.
Matt: do you ever post after the Yankees score? Did you post in last night’s game? I only notice you posting when they’ve failed to get a run in from 3rd with less than 2 outs. Nothing wrong with being a comment specialist, of course.
** off
Bryan
June 3rd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
the Anti-Clutch is back!!!!!!!!!!!!
He never left…well, except to confess to steriod use and to have surgery.
yankees are going to win but it will come late, and we will still leave 15 on.
!! off?
We need TEX!!!
wow you know what is “pathetic”…all these “fans” that hate on arod
Alex should not have swung, but he busted about as much as he can right now. ARod makes lots of mistakes, but not running hard is not one of them.
Arod stop trying to HIT HR GET IT INTO UR HEAD!
It’s not a coincidence.
His first game back from ST he tells Jeter: “I’m nervous Jete – help me out”
Are you kidding me?
The guy is an eggshell.
The Bold font gives the crazies some gravitas.
“is it me or is a rod incapable of hitting with the bases loaded?”
Since you are too lazy/ignorant to research it, here you go:
.341 BA, .397 OBP, .699 SLG, 1.096 OPS, 17 HR (grandslams)
*! off please
posada showing off his noodle arm
Posada becoming the DH is getting closer and closer…
go away bold
arod has been playing for 14 years… trying to hard does not work, can’t he figure that out?
andy is 5 innings max……
1968 triple play
Yankees P Dooley Womack catches a lined shot by Twins C Johnny Roseboro, who threw to Bobby Cox at 3B and then watched in awe as when Cox’s throw to Mickey Mantle at 1B was in time to complete the triple-play.
i have to agree with people earlier. it seems like there is never an easy inning when andy pitches.
Hell, I’d run on Posada too. I hope he gets back in the groove of throwing guys out.
Posada is throwing fine. His pitchers are giving him NO CHANCE with their slow deliveries and poor job holding runners.
*darn it Andy*
“ARod makes lots of mistakes, but not running hard is not one of them.”
it didn’t help his running that he was looking backwards at third as he ran and then stumbled.
5 walks for pettite in 3 1/3 innings? oof.
what’s the deal with andy’s contract, is he pitching hurt because of the incentives in his deal? the more innings he pitches the more he’ll be paid? he should have let wang pitch this one.
“is it me or is a rod incapable of hitting with the bases loaded?”
Since you are too lazy/ignorant to research it, here you go:
.341 BA, .397 OBP, .699 SLG, 1.096 OPS, 17 HR (grandslams)
now show me current stats!
5 walks and 7 hits again if he is injured fine him………….
***off ***
*! off !*
*!*! off *!*!
THE yankees special=dbl plays, still alive!!
Isn’t it funny that Arod’s play was fine when he 1st came off the DL and his name wasn’t in the newspapers. All of a sudden he is busy out with Kate Hudson every night and his game on the field has been poor. Maybe he should keep his attention on the field and not in Kate Hudsons bed. I would think a different favor every 2 weeks could distract someones attention…
Beckett is dealing.
Beckett no hits thru 6
wow…beckett…3 innings left for a no-no
My fever is suddenly back- I need to move to the couch as this game continues to suck the life out of me
VIN — check the dates on your stats. It tells us a lot more. For Yankee fans, it’s “what have you done for our team” that matters. I’d also like to know the score of the games when he hit his grand slams. The big hits for Arod tend to come when we’re ahead or — in essence — won the game already.
But I do know these stats.
Arod needs to think less about hitting the HR and more about getting someone home. PERIOD. Whether it’s a single or a sac fly, that’s all he needs to do.
A non-economical 85 pitches thru 4…………
curent stats like 3 chances????
maybe that is a little bit of a small simpl, even your small brain should comprehend that……
did you copy and paste a quote or something?
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Beckett’s been getting stronger and stronger…unfortunately.
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“now show me current stats!”
1 for 6 with 3 RBI. Minimal sample size… especially for a guy who is two months behind his competition.
CC vs Price is a good ticket for Friday…
“does Alex realize he didn’t get one strike.”
Made me go look at gameday and the 2nd pitch was a strike and the pitch he nubbed was definitely too close to take as it was on the black
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....de=gameday
Maybe *Gammons* had some secret inside info?
Bah.
Yeah, he’s such an eggshell, hescavwrahing almost an RBI a game and drove in the go ahead runs with the bases loaded Monday night.
Some of you children are real idiots.
you’re right, its insane to think that when you get your clean up hitter up three times in 2 games with the bases loaded, he would bring in at least one run.
“Alex has not had it with men on base lately.”
You mean besides the first inning when he had a two out RBI hit? Give me a break.
“Alex has not had it with men on base lately.”
You mean besides the first inning when he had a two out RBI hit? Give me a break.
I think Rishi left an open code on his posting that started the bold fiasco. Can’t you just post “regular” comments and avoid the rigamaro of the bold, Rishi?
Pete isn’t an HTML guy (I would guess) and his techie is probably not working right now.
randy l. June 3rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
“ARod makes lots of mistakes, but not running hard is not one of them.”
it didn’t help his running that he was looking backwards at third as he ran and then stumbled.
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Every player does that. That’s always been my beef with the players. Especially the Yanks. Why look? Just keep running.
Hughes: “Why am I in the bullpen? This guy stinks. Don’t I have better stuff then him?”.
sunny, how did you do that?
If Wang is Taiwan,the magic 8-Ball says “outlook not so good”
This response actually seems a but over the top. First, he came up with a runner in scoring position and two outs in the first inning and hit an RBI single. Its hard to get on a guy for going 1-2 with RISP.
I think here in lies a major problem with Alex: People thing the rules of baseball failure don’t apply to him. Or, more likely, that for what is he paid, the rules of baseball failure should NOT apply to him. Mike Schmidt and Ted Williams suffered through the same fan delusions.
Because of outsized expectations, fans seem to remember more when Alex fails in big moments and look at the moments when he comes through as him just doing what he was supposed to do anyway. When you consider that hall of famers fail to get a hit 70% of the time; there are necessarily going to be a lot more moments when Alex doesn’t get the big base knock or HR than moments where he does.
Think about it, has any other Yankee had more big homeruns in the 9th inning or later than A-Rod since he’s been here? Is it even close?
But what do you remember more, his game tying HR of Papelbon in the 9th at Fenway, his game tying home run off Lidge a few weeks ago, his many walk-offs (there was a surprising ESPN stat about A-Rod walk-offs after his last one), or a collage of moments where he didn’t get the big hit? Judging from the comments, its obviously the latter.
Wow, sunny. We can insert images?????
wow, Sunny – how did you get that image in here?
wow, Sunny – how did you get that image in here?
My bad. Count was 3-1 so Alex could have taken it but it was still not a guaranteed ball.
“The big hits for Arod tend to come when we’re ahead or—in essence—won the game already. ”
There’s a thing called the “availability heuristic.” Do yourself a favor and look it up.
“Arod needs to think less about hitting the HR and more about getting someone home. PERIOD. Whether it’s a single or a sac fly, that’s all he needs to do.
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I don’t disagree with this one bit. There are plenty of times where his approach is a little too hit-or-miss. But you know what, I’m going to give the 16 year veteran the benefit of the doubt… call me crazy, if you like.
*I guess I can boldly suggest whatever I want to but the baseball gods obviously want RSN to suffer tremendously and so won’t let them off the hook that easily. NO HITTER still in tact, though it is not a no no, despite what the total idiot who now calls the games with Orsillo said.
Incidentally, Gerald Laird tried to bunt to get on and the broadcaster was ballistic because “Gerald Laird doesn’t bunt, and he shouldn’t be bunting in the 6th inning in a ‘no no’” When Laird made the out, the dope said “It’s okay, the bunt didn’t work, now sit down.”
I didn’t know that broadcasters were allowed to decide how hitters would approach their AB when the score is 4-0 and the other team needs runs.
Total loser.
swish scares me at first.
The ignorance to bag on A-Rod is mind-blowing. Do you guys forget that this team took off when he came back?
Fools….
Ummm Swish you looked like Giambi out there for a minute..
Mick the Quick
June 3rd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
wow…beckett…3 innings left for a no-no
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wow, a possible no hitter, could not happen to a bigger or more obnoxious arse hole, curse his punk arse
Pettitte must frustrate opposing teams to death. His ERA is not nearly as bad as his WHIP. Imagine the Yankees putting 13 runners on base and only scoring 4 runs. That’s how the opposition feels against Pettitte in almost every start.
No Zorak?
Wang IS Taiwan
June 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
I think Rishi left an open code on his posting that started the bold fiasco. Can’t you just post “regular” comments and avoid the rigamaro of the bold, Rishi?
Pete isn’t an HTML guy (I would guess) and his techie is probably not working right now.
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uh, i do post “regular” comments…including non-whiney, complaining posts…and I wasn’t trying to bold.
He won the game Monday night for God sakes.
The starting pitcher has put on 13 baserunners in 4 innings and it’s Arods fault they are losing.
You can’t make up such idiocy.
“Hughes: “Why am I in the bullpen? This guy stinks. Don’t I have better stuff then him?”.”
Even though he didn’t go to college, I’d like to think that Phil would know when to use “thEn” and when to use “thAn.”
“Made me go look at gameday and the 2nd pitch was a strike and the pitch he nubbed was definitely too close to take as it was on the black”
I had no idea you couldnt goto a 3-2 count in baseball. Who knew!
Andy Pettitte is definitely hurt. I would not be surprised if he goes on the DL after this game and Hughes winds up with his spot
>now show me current stats!
2009: 7 AB, 1 H, 3 RBI, 2 SO, .143/.143/.143/.286
No one ever accused Cano of running too hard down the line
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~* off please.
beckett’s getting a lot of gift calls…
SJ44 — we don’t all agree with your comments, but resorting to name-calling is indeed what real children do. Ironic that you would take that approach yourself.
It’s a sports blog and as such, is meant for people’s opinions. It’s doubtful anyone is ever going to agree with even a quarter of what they read.
You’re not a “hater” or negative or even a child when you don’t like the approach a player takes at the plate or on the field or even if you dislike a player’s lifestyle or personality. Sports is something people follow for FUN and relaxation. There is definitely no right or wrong to any of this nonsense we do in our freetime.
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!~ my kingdom to turn this bold off!
wow sunny. Can you now put a cartoon immage of Alex in a superman cape?
vin: Hughes would certainly know the difference between ‘then’ and ‘than’ and their proper usages because of his privilaged, upper-crust upbringing.
Did Rishi break the blog again?
LOL
*scrolls back*
This game is making me sleepy
“Even though he didn’t go to college, I’d like to think that Phil would know when to use “thEn” and when to use “thAn.”
Thank you genius. I forgot this was spelling bee lohud style. Get a life, besides spell checking posts.
!! off? ~~ off? **off
“ off? @@off? ## off? $$ off? %%off? ^^off? &&off?
matsui looked like a lost puppy in the woods there.
wow i thought that inning would never end.
hateraid
I corrected myself if you kept reading. Still doesn’t change the fact that he did see 2 strike which was the premise I was responding to.
Unlike others here, I’m not afraid to do a little research rather than just knee jerk react and to admit to a mistake when I make it.
hey – this is totally different from last time…last time I just posted something random and it happened…and when I asked that it stop, it did – but I’m sure that was totally random
I think Sunny broke the blog. Hopefully Andy is not going out there. I’m sorry but he has no business being out there especially since we have another pitcher in the pen.
Andy didn’t look very good running over to cover first. He’s not right. And he is too stubborn. It would not have killed him to miss one start. Now he will more than likely miss his next one, I think, and hopefully he hasn’t exacerbated it too much.
Bob doing his best to jinx the no no.
Why is Andy back out there. Joe don’t agree with this. Andy is awful tonight.
sorry pat your response was in between refreshes for me so i didn’t see it.
I’m trying to fix it…
No hitter gone
sunny 615-
it looks very cool seeing images ,but between that and rishi breaking the blog i think pete’s not going to be happy
no no-no
Pel, you are kidding right? I mean, this is some form of stand-up? I understand that previous poster asked you to note Alex’s current stats with the bases loaded. So I’ll give you that that’s why you posted these stats. But you are not in anyway implying that those numbers are meaningful? And, if you are implying these numbers are meaningful, you are doing so in jest, right?
Seven at bats. Seven. To call that a small sample size would do an injustice to small sample sizes everywhere.
Holy mother of life people, just stop watching the Yankees until after A-Rod is no longer with the team if you dislike him so much! Or better yet, stop sharing your opinions with the rest of us.
This is getting F-ing ridiculous.
GOD BLESS BOB LORENZ!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA!
Curtis Granderson – great American hero!
WOO HOO NO NO OVAH!
becketts no no gone
BYE BYE beckett no no, ua obnoxious punk
Thank you Curtis Granderson!
Meanwhile, Beckett has gotten his ERA down to 4.15 pending the end of this inning.
Bob lorenz is a giant jinx. I love it
beckett no hitter is finito.
you’re not kidding randy…
pettite is grinding…
Paul is right if Pettitte can’t even run to cover 1st base then he shouldn’t be pitching. He clearly isn’t healthy.
_1-2-3_
What a different game this might be if Arod had taken a walk and Cano was up with the bases loaded, 1 out.
welll theres the andy we all know and love
all things considered it could of been alottt worse for andy…bats get going!
looks like the Rangers want to help Andy get through the inning
could michael kay please spare us with the jinx stuff please.
Andy: 104 pitches, but still at 4 runs.
So now I know how to make a box and italics here
Ripping on a guy who is coming off major hip surgery, despite the fact they are playing .800 ball since his return, is being a moron.
Has he had NOTHING to do with this hot streak?
He hit into a DP. Get over it.
If you are going to post moronic stuff, you are going to get called out on it.
Don’t like it? Don’t act like a moron. Simple enough.
104 pitches in the 5th,wow,just wow. Nick at 1st is the least of the Yankees problems.
^^ amen SJ, amen
why can’t we hit this garbage on the mound? time to wake up this inning or we’ll be sharing first place soon
Hm I doubt that’s sj44. The yanks look lost at the plate hopefully they can put some runs up soon
Pete won’t let us post pictures. I can’t blame him.
#1 it slows down the blog, it is slowed down a lot just being bolded.
#2 the trolls will go nuts, and ruin it. This blog is run by a newspaper and they can’t have obnoxious or inappropriate content posted.
Maybe the Yanks are planning using Wang and Hughes (bullpen a temp move?) and skipping Andy next time? I hope so. If Andy’s back is bad, he’s got to rest it for it to recover.
off off?
Who diagnosed the 1-2-3 5th inning from Andy?
we need to put something together. Arod will have another opportunity. Dont quit on him now.
Is there egg that gets passed around for the player who stunk up the joint in a loss. It’s between Melky and A-Rod, though A-Rod did get the RBI.
Beckett is still pitching better than any Yankee starter can.
None of the Yanks starters can dominate a game like that.
That picture is just too freaky. “Shudder.”
Okay, bats, let’s wake up a bit here, please. Please??
Can we get off Rishi case. He didnt intentially try to mess the whole blog up. Just think of the bright side. Its made the blog brighter.
Or what a different game it would be if the starter pitched better.
I guess it’s all in how you look at it.
Question way off topic.
I am looking to go to Cape Cod on vacation. Does anyone know any nice hotels? I read some reviews, they rave, and some they call the place a dump. It is so hard to tell what is a plant, or someone trying to get even.
I know there are some people who live up there who post here, can’t recall names. If you don’t know let me know who I can ask.
Greg- really you can’t be serious with that post. That is a joke.
Greg
June 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Beckett is still pitching better than any Yankee starter can.
None of the Yanks starters can dominate a game like that.
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Tell me your kidding.
he swung at ball four and hit into a double play, guys. it was a bad at-bat. we’ve seen it from plenty of yankees, plenty of times.
they’re going to lose some games, too. this may be one of them. it happens.
We better get something done or we are gonna be tied at the end of the night.
Go Away Bold
“Beckett is still pitching better than any Yankee starter can.
None of the Yanks starters can dominate a game like that.”
stupidest post of the day!!!
S.o.S.
June 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Can we get off Rishi case. He didnt intentially try to mess the whole blog up. Just think of the bright side. Its made the blog brighter.
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thanks S.o.S – but I’m a she
Oh just scrolled up. I guess Rishi did break the blog.
This whole not being sure if the person that is posting as SJ44 is actually SJ44 is what’s ridiculous.
“None of the Yanks starters besides CC and AJ and Joba and Hughes and Wang can dominate a game like that.”
Fixed!
Sammy Sosa announced his retirement today and said:
“I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame,” said Sosa.”
LOL
RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
“Beckett is still pitching better than any Yankee starter can.
None of the Yanks starters can dominate a game like that.”
stupidest post of the day!!!
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Day year ? decade? maybe century.
Yeah Greg. AJ Burnett already has a no-hitter to his credit. More significantly, I believe CC, apart from winning a Cy Young (which indicates at least some level of “dominance”) has gone 8.2 innings. And I think CC’s career numbers are better to boot.
This is without even addressing Chamberlain.
Sammy Sosa announced his retirement today and said:
“I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame,” said Sosa.”
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And now the stupidest quote of the month.
That missed opportunity with the bases loaded completely shifted the momentum over to Texas. If Arod takes the 3-1 pitch, he becomes the 4th walk for Feldman, and who knows how long he would have lasted.
Instead, Feldman gets out of that inning with all the confidence in the world, and now he’s absolutely dealing.
“The following is the source from Rishi’s post that started the bold”
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>Pel, you are kidding right?
I was about to answer this and then the Yankee offense went out with a whimper.
>I mean, this is some form of stand-up?
I wouldn’t dare to intrude on Nick in SF’s territory. He’s good.
>I understand that previous poster asked you to note
>Alex’s current stats with the bases loaded.
Nobody asked me.
>So I’ll give you that that’s why you posted these stats.
I posted them because somebody wanted them.
>But you are not in anyway implying that those numbers are meaningful?
They’re meaningful for the person that wanted them.
>And, if you are implying these numbers are meaningful, you are doing so in jest, right?
Are we done here?
Eli Manning!
Arod and his friend ground into double plays
So people calling Rishi a he is what broke the blog?
Can we at least all agree that Brett Tomko sucks?
LOL.
Rishi haz PWRS.
That’s twice he’s broken the blog now.
Does anyone on this blue rock we call earth look more like a Neanderthal than does Youkilis in his pic on the MLB gameday. I mean I suppose in other sports there are better instances like Carlos Tevez on Man United (sh*t), but do yourselves and have a look at that pic. Meathead incarnate.
lol sunny!! Alex looks like the Mad TV comic book kid with the big ears version of superman. Should have known youd make it happen. Would ask for Robin and Catwomen but im affraid of getting you banned.
Tomko gets out of trouble.
come on…..we have a lot of game left…. 3runs away. At least we get last licks.
finally unbold
Yeah! Bold off!
Come on offense!!!
Beckett can win a low scoring pitchers duel by completely shutting down the opposition. I don’t think any of the Yankee starters can do that. Even CC cant…even when he pitches well, he gives up three runs.
And Arod has that same weird facial expression thing going on when he bats in a pressure situation…nodding his head and smiling when he flails and misses a ball by a foot or nubs into a game killing DP on ball four. The Rangers WANT to pitch to Arod with the game on the line, folks.
Oops. Sorry Rishi. I assumed you were a guy too.
I should know better seeing as that happens to me all. the. time.
I’m not blaming Rishi, I think its hilarious, and I’m jealous
I want her PWRS!
Yeah it is gone!!
jennifer
June 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Greg- really you can’t be serious with that post. That is a joke.
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No, That is a red sox fan.
Oh, wait a minute, you are right Jennifer…..
Damn…Feldman is only at 73 pitches..They need to get into that awful bullpen.
Guys:
Please, please, please, stop coding up your posts. Adding photos, bold-faced type, etc. is only going to cause the server to crash or whatever. I just had to go through and delete a bunch of posts to fix it. I don’t have time to babysit the comments like that during games I’m trying to cover.
We haven’t had any performance issues for months. Please leave well enough alone.
Thanks.
Yankees have 3hits tonight.
jjen, randy lives on the cape so I’m sure he can help you out.
back to normal
no worries, Angel – I think it’s pretty 50-50 with the “hes” and “shes” around here
this ump has an iffy zone…for both sides
RS
I’ve been watching baseball longer than many people here have been alive and have come to the conclusion that 1 of 27 ABs should never be what costs a team a game.
It would have been great if Alex hadn’t hit into a DP but it would have been great if Andy hadn’t given up 4 runs and it would have been great if someone else had gotten on base and someone else knocked them in too in the last 5 innings. Team game, team win or loss.
Also, go look at gameday before you are so sure that pitch was ball 4.
No disrespect to Sammy Sosa, but the Hall of Fame announcement might come in a language he doesn’t understand.
Sorry Pete – didn’t mean to – was trying to fix it and Rishi was just copying a post so he wasn’t doing it on purpose either. Just happened.
thanks S.o.S – but I’m a she
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Rishi,
There is a simple explanation for the mistake. As most people here know, i seem to misspell words(missed the s on she). I had to stay consistant so no one would mistake me for an imposter.
No more bold.
I was kinda getting used to it. 
Okay, Alex, get the team back in the game. Re-swing the momentum!
gotcha
A-rod up in the 6th for the GIDP!
Rishi
June 3rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
no worries, Angel – I think it’s pretty 50-50 with the “hes” and “shes” around here
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and then there is Greg
nick, too true. sammy has about as much chance as big mac.
How the hell does this guy only have 86 pitches?
wooooooooooooooooo ground ball we score
LOL Nice error
I am amazed at the way these situations seem to find A-Rod.
A-Rod can’t hit into a DP now
Can they at least take advantage of this? Or will Arod strike out and Cano swing at the 1st pitch..?
Can Arod and the Yankees possibly take advantage of this blunder, or are we going to have to rely on a wild pitch to score Damon?
a-rod is ATROCIOUS!
Alex is in slump, officially.
ugggg that was not a strike!
I’m dead serious. I would take Beckett over any Yankee starter to win a big game.
kd, seeing you hear reminds me, have you heard about the phenom QB who’s committed to Cal? Austin Hinder, arriving 2010.
Oh my GOD I take it back. A-Rod gets the EGG! What a buffoon!
Did Sammy Sosa even need to formally announce his retirement?
wow we deserve to lose this game.
a K? that’s not going to go over well here…
gosh darn it
Lots of lost opportunities tonight so far.
Shoot.
NICE AROD MVP!
CANO IS AN ATROCIOUS 1ST PITCHING SWINGING MORON!
Tell me you didn’t see that coming because I saw it coming a Mile Away. Cano nice job.
i would rather a beckett no-no then the bosox bats waking up! 10 – 0 now.
Damn Cano
Ha ha, Cano you freakin’ idiot. Has he seen three pitches this game? Probably not. Nice job, ass.
just one of those games…yanks are a good team…relax
alex is certainly giving his critics some fodder tonight. that’s two very bad at-bats in big situations. just one of those games, i guess.
I was right…lol It wasn’t that hard to guess on that one.
one way or the other this game is not ending 4-1 simply because they are at Yankee Stadium 2 and there have yet to be any home runs tonight. mark my words, one team is going to have at least 1 HR by the end of the game, since they playing a joke of a ballpark.
What the heck is Arod swinging at? AAA hitters don’t get fooled on that pitch.
This team is PATHETIC at situational hitting. I don’t care how many wins they’ve had recently, they can’t hit a sac fly with a gun to their heads.
so why oh why has cano started swinging at the first pitch again…
ha arod getting booed already
>1ST PITCHING SWINGING MORON!
alright there is some irony for ya
cano as clutch and patient as ever.. wmove him down he is not doing well in the 5th spot..
he is a moron…..
A-Rod and Cano need a day off. Come back Tex, please.
Runner at 3rd, less than 2 outs, A-Rod at the plate. TWICE, and he fails to get the runner in.
Guess what’s the difference between a game they very easily can win and one that could very likely be a loss with Feldman on the mound?
RUNNER AT 3RD, LESS THAN 2 OUTS, AS USUAL.
nick,
that guy is supposed to be awesome. i;ve been around, just not posting as much. did you get season tickets. my young alumni ran out. had to get gold zone.
Greg–that’s fine if that’s the way you feel. But when you say that no Yankee starter can dominate the way Beckett can, you come off sounding completely ignorant.
A-rod is blowing the game ….
trisha
Thanks, I’ll be sure to ask him when he is on here. I am on info overload. Have to find someone who has been there.
“Or will Arod strike out and Cano swing at the 1st pitch..?”
DAMN, you called it. That’s Cano should not be “protecting” A-Rod.
how many more chances do the yankees need???
bases loaded 1 out= nothing
Damon gets to third on a error , w 1 out and nothing. 3 hits tonight thats it.
Arod’s in a slump. Why do you think teams have been walking/hitting Teixiera to face him? Teixiera has been hot with RISP. Even if it is Arod he’s slumping now and you wouldn’t mind facing him.
truly pathetic hitting tonight all around. ray charles could swing the bat better, and he’s blind and dead.
sole possesion of 1st place. it was nice while it lasted.
Looks like we’re going to have to pull this game out in the 9th….Chip away next ab…..
“so why oh why has cano started swinging at the first pitch again…”
That’s his career. He was never anything else.
cano always trying to be the hero and never succeeds.. get out fine, but have a good AB..
Cano has seen a total of 4 pitches tonight.
Anyone else worried about Andy?
Okay, Arod is officially killing the team now. Berroa would have a better chance of getting a guy in from 3rd base with less than one out.
Arod is the worst “superstar” in the game.
“just one of those games, i guess.”
kasey, I like your realistic, positive outlook. That’s a healthy and wise perspective. The Yanks have been on fire, this is just one single game (which is still not out of reach, of course).
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