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Wrapping it up from the Bronx (with audio)

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Podcast on Jun 04, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi said that Chien-Ming Wang would stay in the rotation and face the Red Sox on Tuesday at Fenway.

They would like to see more consistency with the sinker. But Girardi and Dave Eiland felt he pitched better than the numbers indicate. Beyond that, you can’t just keep changing the rotation. This is actual baseball, not fantasy baseball.

“I can do better,” Wang said. “But throwing 70 pitches (actually 69) was good.”

Teixeira laughed about his three-run double in the fifth inning that rolled around like a marble on a glass table. “That’s for all the times you hit a ball to the warning track or a line drive right at somebody,” he said.

I’d like to tell you what Melky Cabrera had to say. But the Yankees had team advisor Ray Negron translating and much of what he said was, shall we say, dramatically enhanced. The general message was that Melky is happy that Joe Girardi has confidence in him.

That’s 17 of 22 for the Yankees and wins in seven of the last eight series.

A few other notes for you: Dave Robertson is 5-0 in his career with two one-pitch wins. … Xavier Nady threw again today in Tampa and took BP. … Cody Ransom will play for Scranton tonight. … Today was the 19th time the Yankees have come from behind to win.

Here’s Joe Girardi’s postgame:

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213 Responses to “Wrapping it up from the Bronx (with audio)”

  1. *vb03 (Gehrig to Gardner: Memoirs of a Utility IF)* June 4th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Great win today. Comeback wins are the best.

  2. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    I wonder what the plan for Ransom is once he’s healthy. You have to think that Berroa’s spot will go to Nady when he’s healthy.

  3. YanksinCA June 4th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Agreed. Nice to stay even with Boston. Now hopefully Texas can go into Boston and take 2 out of 3 and the Yanks can roll over a beat up Rays team.

  4. Brian June 4th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Suzyn Waldman did interview Melky after the game. His English isn’t very great (probably why Negron was there to translate when the beat writers were interviewing him) but he basically said he was very happy. After Suzyn told him he has a .390 avg after the 7th inning (or was it .370?) he said it was “very good.”

  5. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    “But the Yankees had team advisor Ray Negron translating and much of what he said was, shall we say, dramatically enhanced”

    Pete, for some reason I want to hear what Ray Negron had to say.

  6. stuart June 4th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    to say tomko is a better option at present just showss how stupid some posters are.

    look up tomko’s #’2 sme time… he is a career bum, he is a bum look at his results. he is mid 30’s or older and has never ever been any good.

    the astute fans that blog here saw him pitch 3 good innings once and want to erase 13 years of results and wangs history..

    pathetic morons……

    from previous blog.. again clowns tomko stinks and anyone who thinks he will be on the team in Sept. is a fool….

  7. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Tom in N.J. – love your last post in the last thread. You could not have said it better then “your favorite bar on St. Patrick’s day”

  8. Will June 4th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Nice pitching matchup tomorrow, the veteran southpaw vs. the rookie southpaw. Here’s to CC pitching a great game.

  9. Frank June 4th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Why are people making a big deal about Wang facing the Mets like Francessa?

    Have you seen the lineup the Mets are trotting out there these days? They just got swept in Pittsburgh.

    Facing the Mets is much easier than the Rangers, Rays (with Longoira), or Boston.

  10. Sarah June 4th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Frank-

    The Rays are throwing out the same shoddy line-up as the Mets these days. They have quite a few injuries. Probably caught up from last season. No one gets that lucky.

  11. *vb03 (Gehrig to Gardner: Memoirs of a Utility IF)* June 4th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Unit just got a 2-0 lead in Washington in the 2nd inning.

  12. vin June 4th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    “Why are people making a big deal about Wang facing the Mets like Francessa?”

    I wonder if CMW would start against the Mets in -Shea- CitiField…

  13. Mike Mineo June 4th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    the yankees should sign tom glavine and pedro martinez since it seems they only value a player’s past and not how they are currently pitching. wang deserves to be in the rotation just as much as glavine deserved to be in the braves’ rotation. the braves actually made the right choice though in going with younger, more reliable arms. it would be nice if the yankees used that philosophy once in awhile. it would decrease injuries and maximize the team’s performance.

    i’m not saying that glavine is better than wang at this point or anything. i’m just comparing the philosophy of the two clubs. the braves signed glavine due to this past success and ability to persevere. the braves (a team with pitching needs) released Glavine for monetary reasons as well, but they understood that their young pitchers now give them a better chance than a pitcher that is not his usual self.

    i don’t intend to bash wang, as i loved him the past few years. if he returns to that form i will continue to love him, but right now he is clearly not in his usual form. this is not like we are inserting 2007 chien-ming wang into 2009 phil hughes’ rotation spot; that would be understandable. however, wang’s stuff clearly is not up to par to win that spot over hughes, who is 2-0 with a 3.50 era in his last three starts. judging wang by bullpen appearances in blowout games is not contributing much to a correct perception of his current state. wang needed to make a few starts in AAA, but they rushed him and now he’s in a mode more suitable for that league. his arm strength is not built up yet and his confidence is still in pieces; there isn’t any evidence to indicate that he can pitch better than phil hughes at this point. this is why i am relating this situation to glavine and the braves… i’m not saying for the yankees to dump wang, but AT THIS POINT it would serve them better to go with younger arms and forget about veteran presences with mediocre stuff. wang’s stuff is mediocre right now but he also needs to be making starts regularly, which is why the yankees screwed up in rushing him to the bigs after one rehab start. if the yankees followed the braves’ philosophy in valuing present performance over past performance, they would be better suited for at least the next month until wang shows even a sign of returning to form.

  14. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    For those that missed the numbers from the Trenton game, 7-0, Trenton. Snyder had his 3rd homer, Corona was demoted from Scranton and was 3-5 with a Run scored, double and RBI. Montero was 1-3 with a run scored and a walk as a DH.

    Garcia’s pitching line: (W, 2-0) 7.0 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 0 earned runs, 2 walks, 6 strikeouts, 0 HRA, 0.41 ERA, 1 Balks, 1 Hit batter. 11 ground balls, 4 fly balls.

  15. vin June 4th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    from ESPN Re: Jameer Nelson

    “‘I’m not saying I’m any tougher or stronger than anybody, *but I’ve been known to do some amazing things sometimes*,’ Nelson said Tuesday, as he again lobbied for playing time.”

    Way to be humble, Jameer.

  16. Clare June 4th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    SJ44,

    How did your nephew’s workout go today? KLaw didn’t mention him in his chat today.

  17. kaseya June 4th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    mike mineo – great post. well said.

  18. DEBORAH June 4th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Melky’s english was so cute. Although he was generally repeating the same thing, he just said he was SO HAPPY that the manager lets him play. he really enjoys the game. He is great for this clubhouse and EVERYONE likes on the team

    I love your Q&As! I want to submit one!

  19. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    I can’t think of one amazing thing Jameer Nelson ever did.

  20. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Mike Mineo – Glavine is also twice Wang’s age coming off shoulder and elbow surgery.

  21. Wave Your Hat June 4th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    I thought the ground ball to ARod’s left in the third should have been turned into an out. Then Wang’s out of the inning and his outing may have been a lot different.

    That said, Wang was very uneven today. He looked mostly great early, although he did uncork three pretty wild pitches. Then he didn’t look so great. Whether that was because he was tired, or didn’t have his slider working, or some other reason, I can’t say.

    I think the jury’s still out on him. I’d vote to continue starting him, but I can’t say I feel really confident yet.

  22. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    First game of a DH at Scranton, Jackson is 0-1 with a strikeout. No score after 1 inning. Igawa pitching and has a perfect game going.

  23. Paco Dooley June 4th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Amazing that Wang can give up 5 earned runs in 4.2 innings and lower his ERA by two full runs. I think he should be back in the rotation, but I hate to see Hughes leave while he is doing so well. That said, the team needs to build towards a starting 5 of Sabathia, Burnett, Wang, Chamberlain and Hughes – wow, that could be a great rotation next year…

  24. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Well, the Braves did replace old man Glavine with that spry spring chicken Derek Lowe.

    Oh, and there also a third place team. Glavine’s upside is not worth it. He’s old and comming off arm/shoulder issues. Could he be better then the player he’d replace? Not likely. They also have Tim Hudson comming back from TJ surgery later on this season.

    Wang is 29, and when he’s right he wins games and eats innings.

  25. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    oops -there= they are

  26. Peter Abraham June 4th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Mike:

    Wang has no options and would have to clear waivers to get sent down. 29 other teams would claim him.

    He also has no role in the bullpen. They have a long man (Aceves) and a backup long man (Tomko). After spending 15 years of his life as a starter, he literally cannot warm up fast enough to be used elsewhere.

    He is a starting pitcher and was one of the best in the game until he got hurt. Now he is healthy and he needs to regain his form by pitching. The Yankees, who very badly mismanaged his rehab, may lose a game or two or three as he regains that form but in the end they hope that Wang will be back to what he was, which is their No. 2 starter.

    If he sits in the bullpen unused, his arm strength will atrophy to the point where he becomes useless, which is essentially what happened the last 12 days.

    The Yankees are doing the only thing they can do at this point, which is to let him pitch and see what they have. If he’s brutal, they’ll invent another injury and DL him. Or maybe they’ll just release him. But you can’t just do nothing.

    Meanwhile, I’m sorry for all those who “fans” like who hate the team and the players that the Yankees came back to win today. Tough break. Maybe they’ll lose tomorrow and you can be miserable again.

  27. Phil June 4th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Hopefully Wang will be able to hold his stuff longer with each start.

  28. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Rodriguez went towards the hole to get the ball that turned right on the bounce. They had Kinsler and Young running and hitting and still just missed getting Kinsler. If the ball gets past Rodriguez, there’s no way that Pena throws anybody out.

  29. *vb03 (Gehrig to Gardner: Memoirs of a Utility IF)* June 4th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Wang is going to gain length with each start.

    He needs to regain the swagger and confidence to pound the zone with his usually nasty stuff.

  30. Yank1 June 4th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Randy Johnson – 3 no hit innings to start the game

    Wouldn’t it be something if he threw a no hitter on the same day he won his 300th game?

  31. Jackson Melian big time bust June 4th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Chris Garcia 7 scoreless innings for the Thunder this afternoon, 4 hits, 2BB, 6k. He’s been terrific over his first few starts of the season.

    Montero 2-7 with 2 BB in two games with Trenton

    A lot to be excited about

  32. Boston Dave June 4th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    What do ARod and Kate Hudson have in common??

    -They both love ARod

  33. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Boy, Wang in Fenway? I can see the results a mile away…….I’m not thrilled, honestly. Wang obviously belongs in the rotation, but it’s clear he’s not ready. When he is, he’ll be a force and the Yankees will be that much harder to beat, but for now Phil had better stay sharp.

  34. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Igawa’s really polling in Scranton. 2 perfect innings, 3 strikeouts. 20 pitches, 14 strikes, 3 fly outs. He’s gonna do it, It’s Karma.

  35. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    The only way Wang will be ready for the rotation is to start. It’s a process.

  36. Don June 4th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    They need to have Hughes warmed up right with Wang next week.

    They cannot let that Fenway game get out of hand. Especially vs. Beckett who has been lights out in his last handful of starts.

  37. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Thank you Pete!! I can’t wait to laugh about all the people talking about how bad Wang is…. give it about a month.

  38. stuart June 4th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    yea comparing a 44 yr old glavine who stunk the last 2 years with a 28 yr old who when he got hurt last yr. was 8 and 3.

    and then another astute blogger agrees with this comparison.

    again how stupid are you people?

    CLOWNS.. MOST BLOGGERS HERE ARE CLUELESS FOOLS. I am embarresed they make yankeed fans seem stupid.

  39. Wave Your Hat June 4th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    “Rodriguez went towards the hole to get the ball that turned right on the bounce. They had Kinsler and Young running and hitting and still just missed getting Kinsler. If the ball gets past Rodriguez, there’s no way that Pena throws anybody out.”

    I think that’s right as far as it goes but I think ARod in better form would have gotten the batter at first.

  40. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    polling in Scranton

    Polling and rolling. A deadly combination.

    John Rodriguez has a solo homer for Scranton (11).

  41. stuart June 4th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    mineo moron wang is 28 not 40… 28 for a pitcher is not old, CC is 28…

  42. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    June 4th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
    “Rodriguez went towards the hole to get the ball that turned right on the bounce. They had Kinsler and Young running and hitting and still just missed getting Kinsler. If the ball gets past Rodriguez, there’s no way that Pena throws anybody out.”

    I think that’s right as far as it goes but I think ARod in better form would have gotten the batter at first.

    ————————————————————

    Young runs well, and Rodriguez would need to do a 360 turn to make that play and the ball wasn’t exactly smashed.

  43. West side June 4th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    When else did you want to insert Wang in the rotation?

    Texas is a good hitting club
    Tampa is a good hitting club
    Boston is a good hitting club
    Mets are always tough

    There is no soft landing spot for Wang. You could have waited until after the Mets series, the 16th of June vs. the Nationals. However, by that time, it would have been almost a month since he last started. You would have to basically stretch him out from scratch.

    The Yankees didn’t do this intentionally. There was no other choice.

  44. stuart June 4th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    west side stop with the logic.

    no they need to disrupt 5 other pitcher so fatcessa and others do not see wang against the red sux…

    these guys spout nonsense with no thinking involved…..

  45. Wave Your Hat June 4th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    “Young runs well, and Rodriguez would need to do a 360 turn to make that play and the ball wasn’t exactly smashed.”

    Well, who knows, I only saw it on TV, but a quicker ARod doesn’t need to make the 360 and throws the batter out. JMO, of course.

  46. jvcelt June 4th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    does anyone know about the deficiencies of montero’s defense? i saw someone comment that runners can often steal on him. thanks for any info…

  47. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Wow, Yankee fans booed Aceves? The guy has been just terrific for us – he has an iffy outing and this is their response? I’m not surprised, unfortunately, as much of the Yankee fan base is made up of spoiled brat whiners. I’m not even sure they are real Yankee fans – no real fan of any team would judge the players on a moment by moment basis. If you’re a fan, you should love the team and be ready to cheer it, not wait for any moment to show you can’t stand them.

  48. Scorpio June 4th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Just listened to Girardi’s postgame interview and I think he is correct in saying that Wang pitched better than his line indicates. Had A-Rod handled that ground ball cleanly inducing the inning ending DP in the 3rd it would have made a huge difference.

    Wang still has to improve but I for one didn’t expect him to be lights out. Vey happy the team bailed him out. A win is a win.

    Pete – I think you should save that 5:51pm response…you’re going to need it until the fair weather fans finish their bashing.

  49. vin June 4th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    “When else did you want to insert Wang in the rotation?”

    Good point. If it takes Wang 4 starts to get back to his old self, then I’d be very happy if they can win 2 of those. They already have 1 in the books.

    There an excellent team with a healthy CMW in the rotation – that’s worth the risk of losing a couple extra games in June.

  50. vin June 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    “If you’re a fan, you should love the team and be ready to cheer it, not wait for any moment to show you can’t stand them.”

    I’m sure most of the boo-ers have never heard the names Matt Nokes or Alvaro Espinoza (forget about anyone earlier than that). The success of the last 15 years has brought out the worst in a lot of “fans.”

  51. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    How bad is the Karma flowing from this board for Igawa? In the third inning, he gives up 3 infield hits to 2nd, 3rd and short, has 2 outs and walks the batter on a full count.

    1-1 score, 3 innings, 3 hits, 1 walk and 5 strikeouts.

  52. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    If Igawa pitched 3 perfect games in a row in AAA, I still don’t think the Yankees would bring him up

  53. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    jvcelt
    June 4th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
    does anyone know about the deficiencies of montero’s defense? i saw someone comment that runners can often steal on him. thanks for any info…

    ————————————————————

    They’re stealing on every catcher in the system, because no pitcher is being taught to hold runners on base, and, this includes the NYY. Only Venditte and Bleich have decent moves.

  54. Pat M June 4th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Tom in NJ….That line about your favorite bar on St. Patrick’s Day and how it applies to the LoHud now a days may have been the best line of the season….Man that’s taking a page out of Nick in SF or GB7′S playbook…..I left the Replacement Level Yankee site because there was so many more in tune with the club ( Pete of course ) and people who know and understand the game of baseball and the nature of professional ballplayers…..Critical comments are always welecomed and productive, however this season especially, it’s crazy with all the non’s that have infested the LoHud…..It’s crazy at times….Best banter is in the Post game forum……It’s changed and we’ve lost some real good baseball / Yankee fans as a result….

  55. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    At Scranton, austin Jackson flew out to the warning track in center. However, they have the lead on a homer by their new 2nd base phenom, Cody Ransom.

  56. vin June 4th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    You know what’s sad, Pat M…

    We haven’t even gotten very many trolls yet. It’s been mostly the reactionary bridge jumpers invading this site. I’m guessing as school lets out around the country, we’ll see more of those types.

  57. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Vin, I’m sure you’re right. These so-called fans are probably bandwagoners who jumped on at the right time – clearly, they like to jump ship at the first sign of struggles by any player. It’s really sad – the players have to be wondering why their own fans don’t support them.

    Pat M, the game threads have become a joke….On another board I post at, I rarely go to the game thread because it’s often very negative. However – the negativity there stems from frustration (the way I scream at the tv when the Yankees fail to execute or what have you) and not from some deep well of hatred for the Yankees. Some people almost take it personally when the Yankees lose……..

  58. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    I guess the “wind tunnel” in Scranton is working tonight. 2 homers in 3 innings.

  59. vin June 4th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    “However, they have the lead on a homer by their new 2nd base phenom, Cody Ransom.”

    Better keep an eye on him. That kid is going places, I tell ya.
    I wonder if he’ll replace Pena once he’s off the 60-Day – assuming Nady will replace Berroa when he’s ready to go (not sure of Nady’s timetable though).

  60. Oh please. June 4th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Well said, Pat M.

    I will never understand the negativity. I drove home from work and tried to come up with a rationale. I made dinner for my family and continued to ponder. I’ll never get the hate. How can you call a player on your team garbage? I don’t get it.

    I listened to the game at work and was on the edge of my seat. There wasn’t a spot in the line-up when I didn’t think, ‘he can do it.’

    This team is good. This team is fun. This team wants to win every game in a big way…and for the most part, if you haven’t noticed, they do win almost every game. The series are piling up and I don’t see that changing.

    Try enjoying it.

    And if you can’t enjoy it, let others enjoy it. I wish I could ignore the Deborahs and the other goobers, but I can’t. They come with the deal. But this place is worth it. Not every team has a forum like this.

    Think before you post something inane or spiteful…and think twice as hard if you’re going to post something just to stir it up in a negative way. Be thoughtful.

    *steps off soapbox and hopes for the best*

  61. pat June 4th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Rays not sure if Longoria will be available for Friday but Longoria says he will “definitely” be ready to go by Saturday.

  62. kaseya June 4th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    my take on wang

    kaseyanderson.blogspot.com

  63. pat June 4th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Mauer beat out Tex for player of the month. :sad:

  64. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    vin
    June 4th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
    “However, they have the lead on a homer by their new 2nd base phenom, Cody Ransom.”

    Better keep an eye on him. That kid is going places, I tell ya.
    I wonder if he’ll replace Pena once he’s off the 60-Day – assuming Nady will replace Berroa when he’s ready to go (not sure of Nady’s timetable though).

    ————————————————————

    Definately will replace Berroa. He can play the corner outfield spots and 1st base as well. As long as he gets well spotted starts, I think he can hit fairly well. Playing every day, just like Shelley Duncan, he becomes over exposed. Play those guys against fastball pitchers with bad breaking stuff. They can hit fastballs,

  65. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Clare,

    It went very well. Still getting more info on it.

    He just got an invite to NY for the Draft Show.

    Still kicking around whether he will attend.

  66. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    pat
    June 4th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
    Mauer beat out Tex for player of the month.

    ————————————————————

    Not really a shock, though. Hitting .430 with 12 homers and 35 RBI in less than 100 at bats. Obviously the wind tunnel visits every park. Sort of like Santa Claus….and it doesn’t matter whether you are naughty or nice.

  67. Doreen June 4th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    vin
    June 4th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
    “Why are people making a big deal about Wang facing the Mets like Francessa?”
    I wonder if CMW would start against the Mets in Shea CitiField…

    ===============

    vin – I know this is totally off-topic and not really interesting to anyone here, but since you crossed out the “Shea” in your original post, it reminded me of a great t-shirt I saw at Citifield on Sunday: “I’m Calling it Shea!”

    :)

  68. Phil June 4th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    JRod comes through again.

  69. ZMAN7777 June 4th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    This was a nice series win against a worthy opponent. Texas puts up a good fight and has a decent bullpen.

    Now it’s time to send a message to Tampa Bay. Would love to see them take 3 of 4 from the Rays. Tomorrow’s game will set the tone. Should be a good one.

    It’s all about winning series.

  70. vey June 4th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    19TH Come from behind win!!

  71. vey June 4th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    *Boston Dave* nobody loves Arod,more than Arod,she’s the flavor of choice for now.

  72. Matt M. June 4th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Tampa takes a 3-2 lead, bottom 8

    If they win, they would be coming in here red hot, winning 5 of 6 and just swept the Royals.

    They are still our only threat for a playoff spot. Gotta send them a message this week.

  73. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    You know that Randy Johnson has his eyes closed. Leaves with a 2-1 lead after 6 innings. He has to be praying for a rainout before the game gets to Brian Wilson.

  74. vin June 4th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    “Definately will replace Berroa. He can play the corner outfield spots and 1st base as well. ”

    What I was ultimately getting at was – do you think Ransom will replace Pena (Nady will obviously replace Berroa)? Not sure of the 40-man roster implications.

  75. NYY Trek June 4th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    We won 2\3 against the Rangers and actually lost a game in the standings to TB and BOS. Such is life in such a tough division. Always gotta be on your toes.

  76. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    I wouldn’t count on Nady before the ASB, if then. If Nady returns, I’d keep Ransom. They won’t lose Pena. Ransom would need waivers.

  77. 714YF June 4th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Doreen and Vin – http://www.nomas-nyc.com/product_shea.html
    y’know.. if you’re into that kinda thing..

    in other news, Ron Villone pitched in his 17th game of the season (15.2IP) and has yet to allow a run..

  78. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    NYY Trek
    June 4th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    We won 2\3 against the Rangers and actually lost a game in the standings to TB and BOS. Such is life in such a tough division. Always gotta be on your toes.

    ————————————————————

    they also picked up about 5 games on them in a month.

  79. Kevin in the 908 June 4th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Mike Francesa tells us the truth on his show according to him. Really??

  80. Giuseppe Franco June 4th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Can’t argue with that decision.

    Mauer was probably the only guy in the AL who had a better month than Teixeira.

  81. Phil June 4th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Ajack ties it up.

  82. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Scranton ties Syracuse at 4-4 in the bottom of the 5th on a one out double by Ransom and a run scoring single by Jackson and he scores on Linden’s triple.

  83. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Bottom of the 8th in Washington, 2-1 Giants. Runners on 1st and 2nd, two outs and Zimmerman batting against Brian Wilson.

    DON’T LOOK RANDY.

  84. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    And he walks Zimmerman to load the bases. Lucky dog gets to pitch to Adam Dunn, now.

  85. Patrick June 4th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    I don’t understand the fans that get all ticked off about the Yankees and start booing everyone. Some fans are just miserable, it’s kind of sad. Be happy about your team! We are the hottest team and baseball and in first place!

    I was just listening to francesca and he insists the Red Sox are a better team than the Yankees. His reasoning is that their bullpen is better. I’ll concede that but what about the pitching rotation and lineup? I’d give the edge to the Yankees in both areas. The Yankee lineup is A LOOOT better than Boston’s.

    SJ44,

    Wow that’s exciting! He should go since he’s basically assured to be a first round pick. I’m not sure how accurate the information is but a lot of sources are pegging him to go at #4 to the Pirates. Either way I’m sure it’ll be a great day for your family.

  86. vin June 4th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    I can’t believe Villone still hasn’t allowed a run. Just by looking at his game logs, seems like he’s only had 2 or 3 bad outings.

    Usually for a guy like him to have a low ERA, he’ll need some help from the other guys in the pen to prevent his inherited runners from scoring in bad outings. Which is surprising because the Nationals’ pen doesn’t look very good.

  87. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    And Wilson strikes out Dunn on a called 3rd strike that was almost a foot outside. I guess the umpires want Johnson to get his 300th win and retire. They really like umpiring his games.

  88. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    My error on the placement of the ball. It clipped the outside corner, below the knees, and Dunn has high knees.

  89. Clare June 4th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Thanks SJ. Glad the workout went well. Does he have anything else on the agenda prior the draft?

    I know you wanted to keep it low-key on draft day, but I’m sure there’s a variety of opinions on that. :)

  90. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Your karma ran over my dogma?

    Old joke.

    The SF Giants are up 2-1 vs. the Nats as they try to hold on for Randy Johnson’s 300th win. As I type, the Giants have men on 2nd and 3rd with none out in the top of the 9th.

    In the bottom of the 8ths, the SF relief corps let the Nats load the bases but Brian Wilson got a called 3rd strike on a borderline knee-high fastball with a 3-2 count. Adam Dunn was not pleased with the call.

    3 outs for win #300. Stay tuned.

  91. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    4-1 Giants on a Randy Winn double hit as I entered the previous comment. Still none out.

  92. Giuseppe Franco June 4th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    The Yankee “fans” at the Stadium are Neanderthals.

    Anyone over the age of 17 who boos a Yankee player proves he or she has the intelligence of a head of cabbage.

    They booed A-Rod last night and again today. They booed Wang and Aceves (who did fine in relief of Wang) today. They booed Mo and Teixeira in April.

    And we all know they’ve booed Jeter, Matsui, Tino Martinez, Posada, Cone, Pettitte, O’Neill, and every other Yankee at one time or another.

    Some posters on this board often get their panties in a bind defending these idiots and their right to boo a player.

    Sure they have the right to boo – but I have the right to call them on such stupid adolescent behavior.

    Grown men don’t have any excuse for booing a Yankee player. None at all. I don’t care if the intended target is A-Rod, Jeter, Teixeira, or Angel Berroa.

  93. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    A 4 run lead for Wilson in the 9th inning isn’t safe. Imagine trading Veras to SF to set up for Wilson.

  94. Pat M June 4th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    On my way to Staples to watch the Lakers take out the Magic as they begin their run to their 15th NBA Championship……

  95. kaseya June 4th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    is trisha still around? here’s one scout’s take on melky’s speed, via mark feinsand’s fine blog:

    “He’s not a good runner, so he’s a dead double play guy if he hits the ball on the ground. Outfielders that don’t have big power better be able to run, and he can’t, though he’s a good baserunner for not having speed.”

  96. Wang Can Be My Boss - ANY TIME June 4th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    hey pete, i’m curious – if chien-ming wang came out of the bullpen, but his entrance music was a bruce springsteen song, would that be okay? would your erection cause you to have a coronary?

  97. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Single by Bengie “the brother who can hit” Molina and it’s men on 1st and 3rd with none out. Pablo “Kung Fu Panda” is at the plate.

  98. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    5-1 on a sac fly. Pat M, enjoy the game.

  99. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Giuseppe Franco, in that case the old stadium was just as bad. “Bronx cheer” anybody?

  100. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Booing people in my humple opinion is fine, you’re expressing dissatisfaction with they’re play, like a boss does when you don’t do your job. Are we their boss? Well, we’re paying ‘em. We’re buying the ridiculously overpriced seats.

    Just my opinion.

  101. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Going to the bottom of the 9th in the District, the Giants holding a 5-1 lead.

    If you can get to a TV or mlb.com, this could be the last 300th victory we’ll see in a long, long time.

  102. vin June 4th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    ““Bronx cheer” anybody?”

    I don’t think it has anything to do with the new stadium… there were plenty of morons at the old one.

  103. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    so sad how little people are on hand to watch the Unit

  104. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    they’re is their.

  105. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    vin, that is true.

  106. Mark H June 4th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    300 wins in front of 300 people.

  107. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    I thought Wang was very much improved this start and with a little more work he’ll be back to normal.

    Not in favor in starting him at Fenway though. I don’t look at any game as a fore gone conclusion but I’ll go as far to say s I’d be surprised if we won.

  108. Giuseppe Franco June 4th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Giuseppe Franco, in that case the old stadium was just as bad. “Bronx cheer” anybody?

    —————–

    It’s not a knock against either Stadium. It’s a knock against the Yankee fan base.

    Considering how this place turns into a toilet during game threads, it’s safe to say this is an epidemic that has permeated throughout the Yankee fanbase.

    Talk radio is the same way led by Francesa himself.

  109. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Franco, all fans are like that.

  110. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Francessa is now trying to make a case that Mclouth is better than Melky. Moron.

  111. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    one out away

  112. Giuseppe Franco June 4th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Booing people in my humple opinion is fine, you’re expressing dissatisfaction with they’re play, like a boss does when you don’t do your job. Are we their boss? Well, we’re paying ‘em. We’re buying the ridiculously overpriced seats.

    Just my opinion.

    ——————–

    If the seats are so ridiculously priced, well, stop going to the games. Problem solved.

    It’s not fine for people to boo their own players. It’s moronic and shows their true colors.

  113. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Only a few select v.agabon.ds will be on hand to witnsess this event, but perhaps that is appropriate for Randy Johnson. Perhaps not?

    He sits in the dugout with stoic resolve as closer Wilson secures the second out with a swinging K.

    One out to go.

  114. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    I say a pop up to short ends it

  115. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    This is a really, really difficult part of the schedule. I really want to beat Boston just to shut Francessa up.

  116. Giuseppe Franco June 4th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Franco, all fans are like that.

    —————

    Not true.

    Yankee success the last 15 years has fueled and essentially created these people.

    No patience and no understanding of the game at all. Instant gratification or bust.

  117. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Franco, I know perfectly good people who boo players during games.

    I don’t think it shows true colors.

  118. EY June 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    lol it’s wil nieves

  119. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Yeah Franco, but what I mean is that if all fans had teams as sucessful as the Yanks they’d all be like that.

  120. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Infield hit for Belliard, man on first. The Randy Johnson family is aghast.

  121. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! MELKY FOR MVP!!!! June 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    300!

  122. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    And Wilson strikes out the side, there’s #300!

  123. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    300 for Unit.

  124. kd June 4th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    honestly, as much as i didn’t want randy as a yankee after 2001 (i always thought beltran would have been better), good for him. he’s 46 and now can retire in peace

  125. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Also, and I don’t want to fight about this, just state my viewpoint, if you want to go to a game, you’re essentially paying them. You are allowed to go. Booing, at least in my opinion (my phrase of the day so far), is just a way to show dissatisfaction. I myself have never booed, though.

  126. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    It truly could have happened to a nicer guy, but it’ll be a long time indeed before it happens to a better pitcher.

    Too bad for us that a few more of those 300 wins couldn’t have come in pinstripes.

    But what a feat.

  127. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Congratulations to Randy Johnson on win #300. next goal is passing Tom Glavine. That’s probably only a 50/50 proposition.

  128. Dan June 4th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Could you have picked a worst setting to record your 300th win?

    1st game of a doubleheader in Washington in the rain, with 200 people in attendance.

    Still, a great achievement. Congrats

  129. Giuseppe Franco June 4th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Yeah Franco, but what I mean is that if all fans had teams as sucessful as the Yanks they’d all be like that.

    ——————

    Doesn’t make them any less moronic. It’s like people who yell during the National Anthem.

    Grown men have no excuses for acting like fools.

  130. vin June 4th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    RJ only had 68 wins during his 20s. It is amazing that a guy can get 232 wins from age 30 on.

  131. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Great career Randy.

  132. ... June 4th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Congrats to Randy Johnson

    If we’re talking about 2 degrees of paying (fans pay the Steinbrenners->the Steinbrenners pay the players), then who pays the fans to pay the Steinbrenners? And who pays the people who pays the fans?

  133. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Unit won his 300th against the organization that drafted him.

  134. Mr Scott June 4th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    MELKY SHOULD LEARN ENGLISH HES BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH!!!!

  135. Tom Tresh 15 June 4th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 4th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    A 4 run lead for Wilson in the 9th inning isn’t safe. Imagine trading Veras to SF to set up for Wilson.
    ———————————————————————-

    I would even throw in Igawa for a plater to be named later

  136. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Can’t argue with that, Franco. But my point was that there’s nothing inherently wrong with New Yorkers, it’s just the circumstances.

  137. Tom Tresh 15 June 4th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Player not plater–I am learning GB7

  138. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    …, What in the world are you talking about?

  139. vin June 4th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    “It truly could have happened to a nicer guy, but it’ll be a long time indeed before it happens to a better pitcher.”

    I read a few years ago in the Bill James Handbook (I believe) that CC had the best chance of any pitcher in his age group to reach 300 wins.

    He’s 40% of the way there, and he’ll be 29 in July. 122 wins already, and playing for a team like NYY will only help his chances.

  140. Mark 10 June 4th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    If I had to say, I’ll say Rick Porcello is the next to get to 300.

    You have to get to the majors by age 20 max, and have to start winning double digit games games immediately.

  141. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    I’d be quite surprised if another pitcher won 300 games.

  142. sunny615 June 4th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    The Cards released former #1 pick Tyler Herron. Is this guy worth a look?

  143. Zooboy June 4th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Dave Robertson has a shot at 300 wins; he only needs another 298 pitches.

  144. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    sunny, why was he released?

  145. Glenn June 4th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    The way that starting pitchers are used today, we may never see another 300 game winner again.
    Pitchers need to be strong, durable, and spend little time on the DL. They also have to start winning at a young age.

  146. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Johnson had 68 wins at the age of 30.

  147. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    vin
    June 4th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
    RJ only had 68 wins during his 20s. It is amazing that a guy can get 232 wins from age 30 on.

    ————————————————————

    Warren Spahn was 25 when he won his first game. He ended up with 363 wins. He only had 8 wins as of age 26. Extremely strange that he had the same number of wins as base hits.

  148. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Thanks Patrick.

    Clare,

    No more workouts. Now, the job I have is twofold:

    1. Keeping him off South Beach for the next few days.
    2. Keeping Mom medicated because the ups and downs of this is making her a nervous wreck! lol

    Right now, all the teams are in their war rooms setting up their boards. What teams do is rank the players they have scouted from 1-1500. They take their reports, the reports from MLB Scouting, and any other reports they have on players and put them into the mix when determining their rankings.

    Aside from Strasberg, who is everybody’s clear #1, each team ranks players differently. There is very little consensus when it comes to teams and player rankings.

    You then throw in signability issues. That also affects a teams board.

    Needs on the major league roster rarely affect draft boards. This is a key distinction between the baseball draft and the football and basketball drafts.

    Once the teams have set up their boards, usually by Sunday afternoon, they begin placing calls to advisors to get an idea of what players are looking for bonus-wise.

    At that point, you have some conversations to see if you are in the ballpark money-wise. If you are, teams will give you an idea of whether or not they will take you.

    If not, you sit back and wait.

    This yesr, because of Selig’s silly and arbitrary request to cut bonuses by 10%, it throws a monkey wrench into things.

    Many teams are loathe to disobey Bud. The Pirates being high on the list since their President invented this slotting system.

    How that affects Tony? Too early to say.

    He is probably one of the fastest rising guys on the board. Being the #1 rated catcher, in a down year for catchers, also helps.

    You have a ton of HS and college arms that are going to dominate the upper half of the first round. After that, its all a crapshoot.

    Pat M,

    Tyler is going to make himself a very nice payday Tuesday night. I hear he doesn’t get past the Orioles at #5.

    You were one of the first guys anywhere to spot that kid and peg him as a high first round pick. Well done!

  149. Giuseppe Franco June 4th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Looks like vintage Edwar tonight. He’s given up two bombs in the 8th inning.

  150. ... June 4th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    “…, What in the world are you talking about?”

    You’re saying that fans are essentially paying the players
    This is in 2 steps. The money goes from the fans to the Yankees. The money now belongs to the Yankees owners/the Steinbrenners. The Steinbrenners pay the players. That’s what I mean by 2 degrees.

    Now let’s shift the flow of money back one step. As far as I know, most fans aren’t printing their own money. They are getting paid by someone. Do these employers have any say about how their respective employees spend the money? No; they don’t care that whatever fans they employ spend money on the Yankees. After all, once the employer pays the employee, it’s not the employer’s money anymore.

    The underlying point is, once you (the general you) gave the money to the Yankees, it’s no longer your money. You are not the ones paying the players. It is the Yankees who are paying the players.

  151. vin June 4th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Mr. November,

    The issue is that baseball, more than any other sport, cannot be properly judged based on each individual outcome. Good hitters fail 70% of the time.

    Also, there are plenty of times when the player does EVERYTHING right, and still fails (hard line drive, for example). I would argue that in no other sport does that happen as often as it does in baseball.

    I said it yesterday on here – want to boo? Boo lack of hustle or little league mental mistakes. Don’t boo a guy for grounding out – you have no idea what’s going through his head, what kind of scouting reports he has, what he saw out of the pitcher’s hand, etc.

    Don’t boo someone when you would not be able to do any better. If you do, then it makes you seem small and ignorant to the intelligent fans.

  152. sunny615 June 4th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    “He wasn’t meeting expectations”

    Some sites claim he had a drop in velocity and command. Maybe it was the rapid promotion to AA? I don’t know. But maybe some coach can fix him?

  153. jennifer June 4th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Am I the only one not happy for Randy?

  154. jennifer June 4th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Did anyone find video of Melky getting pied?

  155. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Tom Tresh 15
    June 4th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
    Player not plater—I am learning GB7

    ————————————————————

    I figured that if NYY got a **fish plater*** , they’d get the better part of the deal.

  156. sunny615 June 4th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    http://www.stltoday.com/blogzo.....er-herron/

  157. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    vin, another thing is that fans watching games don’t look as players as humans like them; they’re expected to perform.

    …, fine in theory but I am paying to see the Yankees win, if they do bad, fine you can boo lack of results, it’s showing dissatisfaction.

    I don’t want to make enemies off of this, just my opinion.

  158. mikeboston June 4th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    For those of you with sports illustrated I just found something that pretty much cinches the fact that Selena Roberts is full of crap in her Arod book at least. Every issue on the last page has a one page ed op, used to be Rick Reilly’s. Now they have a guest writer every week in a rotation, like Phil Taylor, Chris Ballard; where they show a drawn picture and By “John Doe” on top of the page. The May 26th issue with Lebron on the cover has a Selena Roberts piece but there is no name next to her picture. I looked back and the new ones since, none have a picture with no name, they all have both. Her name is mud and they’re trying to keep their readers from associating her name with the magazine.
    There is no other way to read this (but if you can think of any let us know), no way that it’s a coincidence!

  159. Lauren June 4th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Considering we’re already 0-5 against the Sox this season, do we really want to serve up another by starting wang in game 1 of the series? Sox had great success against him when he’s been at his best, so what can we expect from him on Tuesday? I am concerned. You can say its only june but i don’t like our odds in that game. No offense to Wang, I just really think they need to take this series no matter what, and he is an extremely risky choice for Game 1.

    and on a side note – mike francesca has become absolutely infuriating. i’ve never shouted at a car radio — until today.

  160. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    This series is huge, more for the Yankees confidence than anything else.

    We absolutely HAVE to prove we can beat the Sox.

  161. vin June 4th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    GB7, Interesting tidbit on Spahn – didn’t know he had 363 hits too. Looks like he lost his early 20s to the War?

    From 1947 (first full year) to 1963 he had only *4* seasons where he didn’t record 20+ wins. In those 4 seasons, he still had 15, 14, 17, and 18 wins.

    Also did not know he finished out his career with the Mets and Giants. I love “Get to Know Old-Timer Day” here on the blog.

  162. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Sunny,

    No. He’s not a good player at all. A case of the Cardinals overreaching with that pick and it came back to bite them.

    Really, how can you boo this year’s team? This is a fun group of guys who are playing great baseball.

    No team is perfect but, hasn’t it been fun watching this team so far this year?

    As GF said, folks have a right to boo and we have a right to call them idiots. Works both ways.

    As far as Wang, he wasn’t terrible today. Very good in the first, second and fourth innings. Left a ball up to Cruz in the fifth. That happens and that’s baseball.

    The third inning was his undoing. He had Davis 0-2 and lost him. He gets Davis, completely different story.

    I absolutely start him in Boston and hope for better results. He deserves 4-5 starts to see if he can put it all together.

    After that you can evaluate him and see where he is at.

  163. jennifer June 4th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    http://njmg.typepad.com/yankeesblog/

  164. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    jennifer
    June 4th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
    Am I the only one not happy for Randy?

    ————————————————————

    Probably. He might have been crusty and cantakerous, but he won 34 games for NYY and made every start for 2 years…the last year with a bad back that he had surgery on after the season.

    You wouldn’t have liked Thurman Munson or Roger Maris, Hank Bauer or about 15 other former Yankees, then.

  165. Doreen June 4th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    jennifer -

    Did he get pied?

    I thought that was only for walk-off wins, which this wasn’t.

    About Randy Johnson – good for him, but I don’t really care. :) I know as a baseball fan, know I should, but I don’t.

  166. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Francesca very rarely says anything positive about the Yankees – and when he does, it’s muted. His admiration and undying love for the Red Sox is nauseating. I respect the Sox, too, but for pete’s sake….The teams are very closely matched, but how come no one ever says the Yankees are better? If the Yankees win the division, it will only be because the Sox blew it…..you know that’s what people will say.

  167. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    No, its not huge. Don’t confuse your worry with players.

    Players don’t feel like they can’t beat the Red Sox. The fans do.

    If they get swept in Boston, unlikely, there wouldn’t be a player in the Yankees clubhouse who would believe they can’t beat Boston.

    Players don’t think in the same fatalistic terms as fans think. That’s why they play and fans watch.

  168. jennifer June 4th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    GreenBeret7

    But he was awful in the post season!

    Doreen- I thought I read on here that AJ chased him through the dugout.

  169. vin June 4th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    “Considering we’re already 0-5 against the Sox this season, do we really want to serve up another by starting wang in game 1 of the series? Sox had great success against him when he’s been at his best, so what can we expect from him on Tuesday? I am concerned. You can say its only june but i don’t like our odds in that game. No offense to Wang, I just really think they need to take this series no matter what, and he is an extremely risky choice for Game 1.”

    OK, here’s how I see it. The Yanks record against the Sox doesn’t really mean much, except to the fans. The RS know the Yanks are good, just as the Yanks know the RS are good. Simple as that.

    I said earlier that if it takes Wang 4 rocky starts to get back to normal, then that’s worth it, because having the real CMW for the remaining 15+ starts would be HUGE. All the Yanks can hope for is to win half of those 4 starts, and the first one is already in the books.

    Wang needs to get back into the rotation. We all are excited about Hughes, but CMW as a starter and Hughes as the 6th man makes the most sense.

  170. ... June 4th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    I can’t blame people for dissatisfaction from losses, but in my opinion, it’d be far more effective to show it by…not spending money.
    But I can’t boo the players themselves as long as they’re trying.

  171. vin June 4th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    The Yanks and Sox have all the makings of running away with this division. Hopefully the Jays and Rays continue to cooperate.

    NYY’s rotation is so strong, and Boston’s offense and BP are so effective that the only way they miss the postseason will be because of major injuries.

  172. Doreen June 4th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Oh, I didn’t see that, Jennifer.

  173. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    “Players don’t think in the same fatalistic terms as fans think. That’s why they play and fans watch.”

    That and the talent gap. ;)

  174. trisha June 4th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    kasey – :) I am well past the Melky discussion! However I appreciate that you found a report that says what it does and I found site that rated him above average in speed (and stats show he has the 4th highest steals on the Yanks.

    So I would say we are at an impasse, which works well for both of us I am sure. I love Da Melk’s speed. So that works for me!

    SJ, here is the latest on the draft and your nephew. They now have him going 27th to Seattle but said they had him going 12th last week to KC. I admit that has me more than confused since he played beautifully last week plus was nominated for the Bench Award! So how did he drop in the predicted ratings???

  175. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    vin
    June 4th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
    GB7, Interesting tidbit on Spahn – didn’t know he had 363 hits too. Looks like he lost his early 20s to the War?

    From 1947 (first full year) to 1963 he had only 4 seasons where he didn’t record 20+ wins. In those 4 seasons, he still had 15, 14, 17, and 18 wins.

    Also did not know he finished out his career with the Mets and Giants. I love “Get to Know Old-Timer Day” here on the blog.

    ————————————————————

    Spahn was an exceptional hitter for a pitcher. Second highest career home run total for pitchers with 35.

    He was a war hero, with a Bronze Star For Valor and 1 Purple Heart during the Battle Of The Bulge and a Battle Field Commission, and was a combat engineer and part of the team that took the Ludendorff Bridge over the Rhine, to spearhead the charge into Germany. Quite a person and a great speaker.

  176. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    You can’t boo this team, you just can’t. I’m sick to my stomach that Aceves was booed……..same with Alex and any of these guys. Of course, what goes on in the game thread here is the same thing – such anger and animosity. Why watch the game at all if you’re going to spend so much time wallowing in negativity? Most of these clowns aren’t Yankee fans, they aren’t baseball fans, they aren’t sports fans – if they were, they’d have some semblance of an idea that the games are played by human beings. Frustration is one thing – I’ve screamed at my tv countless times and I’ve probably said “so and so sucks” at my worst moments, but never, ever do I mean what I say….I love these guys. This particular team busts its hump every single game, even if they play like crap (which is hardly ever). What do we get? More praise about the perfection of the Sox…..and trashing of our own team. It’s pathetic.

    Jen, Sterling said that AJ was chasing Melky around with the pie, lol – I would KILL for video of that. I wish someone would pie AJ, though…….

  177. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Yankees won the season series against both the Sox and the Rays…

  178. Joe from Long Island June 4th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Got back home a little bit ago. Great game today.

    As part of our anniversary celebration, we ponied up and got tickets in the Audi Club area (bless my wife for tolerating my baseball habit).

    It was terrific. Great view, great food. And the place was full of people in their Yankee gear, cheering every moment of the game and comeback. My wife and I had a grear view of Melky’s HR coming straight at us, just fair and into the first row in LF. High-fives all around.

    The only downside was we couldn’t hear the crowd noise, but we were generating so much ourselves we didn’t miss that much.

    As a fan, I don’t know if I would want to give up my regular seats for the club atmosphere every game. But for today, it was a blast. What a way to celebrate an anniversary.

  179. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Vin,

    Great points. The fans, and media because they love to hype up the games, make a big deal out of the series. In reality, its overstated.

    Remember when Jeter dove in the stands in ’04 to save that Red Sox game? That was suppose to “finish off” the Sox.

    Funny since it was only July but, that was the common thought among fans and media. How did that season turn out?

    Don’t get me wrong, I love to see them beat the Red Sox.

    However, long term, its more important to get Chien Ming Wang back to being a front of the rotation starter.

    To do so, he has to pitch, regardless of the opposition.

    There is no such thing as “throwing away games”. Just as there is no such thing as, “automatic outs”, or “Girardi has no idea how to fill out a lineup card”.

    I think we have seen enough from this team this year not to make sweeping negative statements about them.

    This is a different Yankee team. More like the Dynasty teams than any Yankee team since 2001, IMO.

  180. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 4th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    “Only a few select v.agabon.ds will be on hand to witnsess this event, but perhaps that is appropriate for Randy Johnson. Perhaps not?”

    lmao…. Nick, say hobos it’s easier.

    My posts finally went thru… tis fitting that “McCarthy” was the pitcher today.

  181. Doreen June 4th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    It is a testament to both the Yankees and the hated Red Sox that they have both already suffered through major injuries and players performing under expectations and both are tied for 1st in the AL East with the best record in the AL.

    Since they are tied, I don’t worry about the 0 and 5 record against them.

    Also, going on their recent history, I figure they’ll end up tied against each other for the season (or one game apart, if they play 19). I also only expect them to win 1 at Fenway this time around, but will be ecstatic to be wrong about that. The Yankees tend to do better against them later in the season.

  182. Nick in SF June 4th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    vin and SJ: agree with both of you on the substantive points on Wang and Boston.

  183. GreenBeret7 June 4th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Damon Sublett and Austin Romine are hitting the Tampa Yanks to a good lead early. Sublett is 3-3 with a double and a single, RBI and Run Scored, Romine is only 1-3 but a 2 run homer.

    Sergio Mitre is pitching well.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_jupafa_1

  184. vin June 4th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    I found it odd that he only won 1 Cy Young, then I realized that for the first half of his career, there was no Cy Young Award. And the second half of his career, there was only 1 Cy Young given out (not one per league). Good history lesson, indeed.

  185. Mark 10 June 4th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    If we get swept by Boston, it doesn’t mean a thing. Just means we are 0-8 against them and 3 games behind them (in all likelyhood we’ll be tied going into the series) with 100+ games to go.

    If management felt as strongly about “having to beat Boston”, they wouldn’t have lined up Wang against them. But they realize Wang getting right is more important than one game.

  186. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Trisha,

    Melky has average speed. He’s not a terrible baserunner but, he’s certainly not an above average runner. Decent enough speed but, deftinitely not above average.

    The mock drafts don’t mean anything. Basically, people who write these stories have to write something. At this point, teams aren’t tipping their hands to anybody.

    The mock drafts everywhere give fans something to talk about. In terms of accuracy? Not so much.

    Everybody knows the Nationals are going to pick Strasburg. After that, its a big crapshoot because of signability issues, teams that will stay away from Boras clients (he has 6 of the Top 10 rated players in the draft), teams slot concerns, etc.

    I’ve seen mock drafts that have Tony going anywhere from 4-30.

    In the end, if he goes to a good organization, that can develop players, and get to majors as fast as he can, life is good.

    The rest of the stuff is out of our control.

  187. Doc June 4th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    To be honest, there is no fun in Yankees/Sox games for me anymore.

    Just adds unnecessary stress and anger, like each game is Game 7 of the WS.

  188. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    I don’t want to underestimate the Rays – I think they’ll be in it – but this does look like it could be a Yankees/Sox summer. Neither team is going to runaway and hide because the other team is too good. I’m curious about the WC. It may not come out of the East (probably won’t) because the West and Central divisions are fairly atrocious and the Tigers and Rangers can beat up on those other teams. The East is just too tough – the Jays will hang around and the O’s are very competitive.

  189. vin June 4th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    “lmao…. Nick, say hobos it’s easier. ”

    I still can’t figure out why that word is banned? I must be missing some urban dictionary type meaning.

  190. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    I don’t even love Sox/Yanks games…..and I hate Mets/Yanks. For the latter, there is always the underlying pressure for the Yankees to beat the Mets. For the former,the games are just too gut-wrenching.

    I just want to say that I can’t belive the #s we are getting out of CF this year. I know it’s still relatively early, but so far, I have been absolutely dead wrong on Melky. I can’t count how many huge hits he’s come up with and he’s solidified a position that we thought was going to be a BH. I hope he can continue to be at least solid, if not as good, for the remainder of the season. I’m not a fan of Brett Gardner, though……

  191. vin June 4th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    “In the end, if he goes to a good organization, that can develop players, and get to majors as fast as he can, life is good.”

    SJ, Speaking of which, has Pittsburgh improved their player development lately? Seemed like they haven’t been the model organization in that regard for quite a few years – to put it kindly.

  192. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    “lmao…. Nick, say hobos it’s easier. ”

    drifter, gypsy, wayfarer- also work.

  193. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    You look at the AL Central and its not impressive. Those teams just get torched by the AL East teams. That makes the WC doubtful out of that division.

    The AL West? Texas is better but, I don’t see them as a WC threat. Whomever wins between Texas and Anaheim will be the long playoff representative from that division.

    The WC is coming out of the AL East. Right now, I think the Red Sox and Yankees are head and shoulders above everybody else in the AL.

    Consider this….

    The Yankees have not played a single game this year with their projected Opening Day lineup. Not one. Yet, they sit in tied for first in teh AL East. That’s pretty impressive.

  194. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    I love Yanks Sox and Yanks Mets games.

    Pressure is fun.

  195. kaseya June 4th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    best of luck to your nephew, sj. i’ll certainly be watching the kid closer than i have a non-yanks prospect since felix hernandez.

  196. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    You know last year our division was arguably the best of all time.

  197. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    I could live with wild card. Once you make the postseason, anything can happen.

  198. vin June 4th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    “I just want to say that I can’t belive the #s we are getting out of CF this year. I know it’s still relatively early, but so far, I have been absolutely dead wrong on Melky. ”

    I think we all would have agreed that CF production would be the biggest weakspot on this year’s team, given how last year played out. As you alluded to, their production so far is:
    .297 BA, .363 OBP, .432 SLG .795 OPS
    That’s awesome production from the weakest position on the field. Actually 3B has been worse, but we know that won’t last for long.

    Also, glad I’m not the GM, because I would’ve shipped Melky out for Mike Cameron in a heartbeat. Cameron’s got great numbers, but Melky’s revival is huge, especially considering he’s only 24.

  199. Mr. November June 4th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    CF has become one of this team’s biggest strengths.

  200. Doreen June 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Betsy -

    I’m with you. Sox and Mets games are so overhyped. Like they’re life and death. And not fun to watch most of the time. Unless the Yankees get out to an insurmountable early lead. :)

  201. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    SJ44, do you think the Sox/Yanks are as good as the Dodgers? They have an unbelievable record and they are very good, but they do play in a terrible division. I wonder if being in a competitive division and in a race with another terrific team is better than running and hiding….Does it make a difference? In the case of the Dodgers, they can rest players when they want to without fearing the loss of a game or two in the standings. With the Sox and Yanks, they can’t do that. I just wonder if there is any benefit to either being by far the best in a division (or league) or if it’s better to be tested under fire by another quality team…

  202. Tom in N.J. June 4th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Also, the Yankees have received nothing from Wang, Marte and Bruney.

    How many teams can lose their #2 starter and their two set-up guys and still be in first place?

  203. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Thanks Kasey.

    The whole experience has been a bit surreal to me. At this time last year, the goal was the following:

    Go to the Cape, look to beat out the other catcher on the team for PT, get scouts to see you, and hope you can be drafted in the third or fourth round next year.

    Here’s what happened….

    He became the best catcher in the Cape and made the all star team.

    He became first team All-ACC, the only 2-time Player of the Week in the ACC this year, a third team All-American, a finalist for the Johnny Bench Award (given to the best college catcher in the country), and a possible first round pick.

    To say he exceeded all of our expectations is an understatement!

    It just goes to show you that, in the immortal words of Joaquin Andujar who once said, “I have one word to say about baseball…..you never know”!

  204. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    LOL Doreen – I may be the only one, but I hate the idea of a subway series. I mean, the idea of it was really neat, but if the Yankees had lost….oh, wow, forget about it.

  205. vin June 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    new post –>

  206. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    I keep on forgetting about Marte. Any word on how he is doing?

  207. SJ44 June 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    The Yankees and Red Sox are both better than the Dodgers.

    You put either team in that division and they wouldn’t have 10 losses this year.

    The Dodgers have the good fortune of playing in a terrible division.

  208. Doreen June 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Yup. The best part of the subway series was winning it!

  209. Betsy June 4th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....nsion.html

    I guess AJ is going to take the high road, but reading between the lines, I think he’s annoyed…..

  210. hardwired June 4th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    How long will it be before Nelson Cruz becomes a household name?

    He busts his azz on every play. Combine that w/his God-given talent, and you have a star in the making.

  211. Jamesw June 4th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    I wonder who the Yankees will draft. I hope not another catcher. We don’t need another freakin’ catcher. We got plenty.

  212. JackBlack June 4th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    AJack has finally gone deep!!! Just missed his first time up in game 2. Hit one off teh cf wall for a triple. Second time up hit his first homer to right.

  213. KWIS WUSSO June 5th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Mikey Francessa has a woody for Mclouth and Bronson Arroyo.
    If Melky was batting .256 like Mclouth ….Mikey would be trying to run Melky out of town.
    Maybe they should change the name of his show from “miked-up” to all f’ed-up.

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