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	<title>Comments on: Are you worried about Mariano Rivera?</title>
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		<title>By: chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t end a stream on a note like that last one

MO is god and will have great numbers at year end - he&#039;ll blow a few more games before the years out but is still a top closer in the league and I still believe the game is over going into the 9th WITH a lead.

i&#039;ve been hearing this argument for the past five years - any time MO has a bad outing or MO forbid two, everyone says hes done... and then he goes on and pitches lights out for the rest of the year

&quot;In MO we trust.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t end a stream on a note like that last one</p>
<p>MO is god and will have great numbers at year end &#8211; he&#8217;ll blow a few more games before the years out but is still a top closer in the league and I still believe the game is over going into the 9th WITH a lead.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been hearing this argument for the past five years &#8211; any time MO has a bad outing or MO forbid two, everyone says hes done&#8230; and then he goes on and pitches lights out for the rest of the year</p>
<p>&#8220;In MO we trust.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DEJA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEJA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I PERSONALLY BELIEVE AS LONG AS ALEX IS ON THIS TEAM,THEY WILL NEVER WIN A WS....He&#039;s bad news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I PERSONALLY BELIEVE AS LONG AS ALEX IS ON THIS TEAM,THEY WILL NEVER WIN A WS&#8230;.He&#8217;s bad news.</p>
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		<title>By: Berdell Hardy</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/06/are-you-worried-about-mariano-rivera/comment-page-5/#comment-835141</link>
		<dc:creator>Berdell Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been &#039;worried&#039; for the past 5-6 years. Mo, as great as he is/was, has always been in denial. We were told for the past couple of years that he was &quot;working&#039; on a change-up--design to sit -up those batters that were keying on his former &#039;unhitable&#039; cutter.

Thus far, no change-up, and the batters are keying on his FORMER &#039;unhitable&#039; cutter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been &#8216;worried&#8217; for the past 5-6 years. Mo, as great as he is/was, has always been in denial. We were told for the past couple of years that he was &#8220;working&#8217; on a change-up&#8211;design to sit -up those batters that were keying on his former &#8216;unhitable&#8217; cutter.</p>
<p>Thus far, no change-up, and the batters are keying on his FORMER &#8216;unhitable&#8217; cutter!</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mariano gave up one run in his previous ten appearances before yesterday. He is, for whatever reasons, not the same pitcher in tie games. Could be the intensity is just a tick off...who knows. But this has been an issue for the past few seasons. At this stage of his career, it would be nice if the Yankees had the luxury of saying Mariano only closes, but our bullpen unfortunately isn&#039;t deep enough for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariano gave up one run in his previous ten appearances before yesterday. He is, for whatever reasons, not the same pitcher in tie games. Could be the intensity is just a tick off&#8230;who knows. But this has been an issue for the past few seasons. At this stage of his career, it would be nice if the Yankees had the luxury of saying Mariano only closes, but our bullpen unfortunately isn&#8217;t deep enough for that.</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
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		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s unusual to see Mo be less than dominant and even less common to hear him question his manager. But, no, it&#039;s not time to jump off the ledge. 

I do think it was telling, however, that Girardi was trying to play percentages. I agree in general that you should not give a player of Longoria&#039;s skills a chance to beat you, even if he was coming back from a leg injury. But Mo never needed help from the percentages before. It does suggest clearly that Joe thinks Mo is more human this year than before as well as the fact that regardless of who is out on the mound, Girardi will consult the numbers.  

Joe, however, makes the call from the dugout to walk Longoria without a mound visit to sell it to Mo. Was Joe&#039;s lack of tact (respect?) the bigger factor in Mo&#039;s unraveling? I&#039;m 100% sure Girardi meant no disrespect to Mo, but is he sure Mo knew that? 

IMO, walking Longoria is a decision all managers would consider in that situation. But you&#039;d have to also consider that it was a rusty Longoria waiting to swing and that when you walk a hitter to get at the next guy, usually that amps up the next hitter (Oh, so you think you can beat ME?). Add that &quot;intangible&quot; to the fact that walking Longoria obviously unsettled the usually unflappable Mo and maybe this wasn&#039;t really a 39 year old shoulder issue. Maybe Mo still thinks of Girardi as the catcher sometimes and not the manager. 

Girardi and Mo need to talk. Mo was embarrassed on the mound by Joe and Joe likely was embarrassed by Mo after the game. Bad, bad communicating between former teammates who are now Manager and Closer. Fix it and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s unusual to see Mo be less than dominant and even less common to hear him question his manager. But, no, it&#8217;s not time to jump off the ledge. </p>
<p>I do think it was telling, however, that Girardi was trying to play percentages. I agree in general that you should not give a player of Longoria&#8217;s skills a chance to beat you, even if he was coming back from a leg injury. But Mo never needed help from the percentages before. It does suggest clearly that Joe thinks Mo is more human this year than before as well as the fact that regardless of who is out on the mound, Girardi will consult the numbers.  </p>
<p>Joe, however, makes the call from the dugout to walk Longoria without a mound visit to sell it to Mo. Was Joe&#8217;s lack of tact (respect?) the bigger factor in Mo&#8217;s unraveling? I&#8217;m 100% sure Girardi meant no disrespect to Mo, but is he sure Mo knew that? </p>
<p>IMO, walking Longoria is a decision all managers would consider in that situation. But you&#8217;d have to also consider that it was a rusty Longoria waiting to swing and that when you walk a hitter to get at the next guy, usually that amps up the next hitter (Oh, so you think you can beat ME?). Add that &#8220;intangible&#8221; to the fact that walking Longoria obviously unsettled the usually unflappable Mo and maybe this wasn&#8217;t really a 39 year old shoulder issue. Maybe Mo still thinks of Girardi as the catcher sometimes and not the manager. </p>
<p>Girardi and Mo need to talk. Mo was embarrassed on the mound by Joe and Joe likely was embarrassed by Mo after the game. Bad, bad communicating between former teammates who are now Manager and Closer. Fix it and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact of the matter is that CC is not an ACE with the Yanks.  He can&#039;t match up head-to-head with any elite pitcher.  I&#039;m from Milwaukee and watched CC dominate game after game last year and bear down with men on base.  He&#039;s not the same guy now.  The pressure of NY has gotten to him and he&#039;s prone to meltdowns on a daily basis, which he usually reserved for postseason starts.  As good as he was for the Brewers, he simply could not handle the pressure of starting a game in the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact of the matter is that CC is not an ACE with the Yanks.  He can&#8217;t match up head-to-head with any elite pitcher.  I&#8217;m from Milwaukee and watched CC dominate game after game last year and bear down with men on base.  He&#8217;s not the same guy now.  The pressure of NY has gotten to him and he&#8217;s prone to meltdowns on a daily basis, which he usually reserved for postseason starts.  As good as he was for the Brewers, he simply could not handle the pressure of starting a game in the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CC wasn’t brilliant but he left with the team in a position to win.&quot;

CC stunk, plain and simple.  He failed to hold two leads and got pounded by a scrub hitter.  I&#039;ve said before the Yanks have zero starters who can dominate a game and hold a lead when needed.  Lester&#039;s performance last night is something the Yankee starters can only dream of doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CC wasn’t brilliant but he left with the team in a position to win.&#8221;</p>
<p>CC stunk, plain and simple.  He failed to hold two leads and got pounded by a scrub hitter.  I&#8217;ve said before the Yanks have zero starters who can dominate a game and hold a lead when needed.  Lester&#8217;s performance last night is something the Yankee starters can only dream of doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Doreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Mo is upset.  He gave up 4 runs, and the team could not come back with enough in the bottom of the ninth to overcome that.

As far as IBB Longoria - how do you argue that?  Longoria had a HR off him last time (recent hammie problems notwithstanding) and he had struck out Upton like 6 times.  How do you argue that?  And so, Joe put Mo in the best position to get the 3rd out.  Which Mo did not do.  So, I would think, when all is said and done, Mo is probably much more upset with himself than the manager.  I don&#039;t think Joe &quot;embarrassed&quot; Mariano.  And he took him out so he wouldn&#039;t lose him for another game, pitch-count wise.

Sabathia probably could have pitched the 9th.  And of course, he&#039;d prefer that.  They all prefer to stay in the game; they all prefer to play than not play, bumps &amp; bruises be darned (and in John Maine&#039;s case, weakness).  Again, when all is said and done, I&#039;d bet CC is more upset with himself, having given up 5 runs and the lead twice, than he is with the manager deciding to go with Mariano in the 9th.  If he went with Veras, I&#039;d have some questions.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Mo is upset.  He gave up 4 runs, and the team could not come back with enough in the bottom of the ninth to overcome that.</p>
<p>As far as IBB Longoria &#8211; how do you argue that?  Longoria had a HR off him last time (recent hammie problems notwithstanding) and he had struck out Upton like 6 times.  How do you argue that?  And so, Joe put Mo in the best position to get the 3rd out.  Which Mo did not do.  So, I would think, when all is said and done, Mo is probably much more upset with himself than the manager.  I don&#8217;t think Joe &#8220;embarrassed&#8221; Mariano.  And he took him out so he wouldn&#8217;t lose him for another game, pitch-count wise.</p>
<p>Sabathia probably could have pitched the 9th.  And of course, he&#8217;d prefer that.  They all prefer to stay in the game; they all prefer to play than not play, bumps &amp; bruises be darned (and in John Maine&#8217;s case, weakness).  Again, when all is said and done, I&#8217;d bet CC is more upset with himself, having given up 5 runs and the lead twice, than he is with the manager deciding to go with Mariano in the 9th.  If he went with Veras, I&#8217;d have some questions.  <img src='http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*CC  is not living up to his reputation* .

As a Yankees fan  *READING PAST STATS* about how a player was before becoming a Yankee,doesn&#039;t do a thing but detract from what the player is doing currently. 

*CC* should be embarrassed as the ACE to have Yesterday&#039;s result. 

Before the season opener,Pete gave the *stats*  of CC vs Orioles,all positive in CC&#039;s favor,yet the Yankees lost.

Friday Pete gave the *stats* of CC vs Tampa,again favorable.

I got this pit in my stomach and  wouldn&#039;t allow myself to
*overly rely on the stats* ,and you saw what happened.

*I as well as any true Yankees  fan want them in post* *season* . 

*The Yankees have the talent,but they aren&#039;t performing up* *to their stats* .


Seeing Mo lit up like that yesterday for me,was like *his*
*blown save in 2004* . It even shook Mr low key too!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*CC  is not living up to his reputation* .</p>
<p>As a Yankees fan  *READING PAST STATS* about how a player was before becoming a Yankee,doesn&#8217;t do a thing but detract from what the player is doing currently. </p>
<p>*CC* should be embarrassed as the ACE to have Yesterday&#8217;s result. </p>
<p>Before the season opener,Pete gave the *stats*  of CC vs Orioles,all positive in CC&#8217;s favor,yet the Yankees lost.</p>
<p>Friday Pete gave the *stats* of CC vs Tampa,again favorable.</p>
<p>I got this pit in my stomach and  wouldn&#8217;t allow myself to<br />
*overly rely on the stats* ,and you saw what happened.</p>
<p>*I as well as any true Yankees  fan want them in post* *season* . </p>
<p>*The Yankees have the talent,but they aren&#8217;t performing up* *to their stats* .</p>
<p>Seeing Mo lit up like that yesterday for me,was like *his*<br />
*blown save in 2004* . It even shook Mr low key too!!</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mo has had several stretches of not being used.   Depending on the amount of pitches he throws, he needs to be used at least 3 times each week to stay sharp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mo has had several stretches of not being used.   Depending on the amount of pitches he throws, he needs to be used at least 3 times each week to stay sharp.</p>
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