Game 56: Rays at Yankees (updated with pre-game notes and Girardi audio)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Jun 07, 2009 
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YANKEES (32-23)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (3-1, 3.71).
RAYS (29-28)
Upton CF
Crawford LF
Aybar 3B
Pena 1B
Zobrist 2B
Joyce RF
Gross DH
Navarro C
Brignac SS
Pitching: RHP Matt Garza (4-4, 3.67).
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES.
STATE OF THE PINSTRIPES: The Yankees have lost two of three. They are 8-6 in their last 14 games.
HOMER HAVENS: Yankee Stadium and Tropicana Field are the only ballparks to have surrendered at least one home run in every game.
THE DEFENSE RESTS: The Yankees have committed at least one error in four straight games.
CLUTCHY CABRERA: Melky Cabrera has 23 RBI. Eleven of them have either tied the game or given the Yankees the lead in the seventh inning of later.
ON A ROLL: Mark Teixeira had 12 home runs and 35 RBI in the last 26 games.
SPEEDY CAPTAIN: Derek Jeter has 11 stolen bases, the same amount he had all of last season.
GARZA AGAIN: Garza allowed two runs over seven innings and struck out nine against the Yankees on April 14. But the Yankees rallied to win 7-2.
UPDATE, 11:50 a.m.: Still no Rays lineup. They want to see Longoria take BP and run before making a decision.
As for the Yankees …
Brian Bruney threw two 15-pitch simulated innings and felt good. “Two thumbs up,” he said as he came off the field. But the Yankees will be cautious with him. He could throw another simulated game, then some live BP and then a go to the minors for a rehab game or two. At an every-other-day pace, he could be 8-10 days away. They want to make sure he is right before they bring him back.
Jose Molina was in uniform and doing some baseball activities. He thinks he’s 7-10 days away. “It’s not nearly as bad as last time,” he said. “But I need to be able to run.”
The Rays were surprised — shocked, really — that the Yankees intentionally walked Longoria to get to Upton yesterday. Longoria had not swung a bat since Tuesday and was under orders not to run hard if he made contact.
Girardi defended his decision, pointing out that Upton was 1 for 7 with six Ks against Mo. He also had no problem with Rivera saying he wanted to face Longoria. “I would expect him to say that,” Girardi said. “We’d have a problem is he didn’t feel that way.”
It’s also worth noting that Mo issued 27 previous intentional walks in his career. So let’s not get carried away because it happened yesterday. It’s a fair argument either way.
Damaso Marte will throw a bullpen in Tampa today. Xavier Nady threw from 90 feet yesterday. That would seem encouraging.
UPDATE, 12:31 p.m.: Longoria was not cleared to play. But he could pinch hit again.
UPDATE, 12:37 p.m.: Here’s Girardi’s pre-game in the dugout. Lots of talk about the decisions yesterday.
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UPDATE, 1:10 p.m.: We’re underway, five minutes late at 1:10 for whatever reason. … 77 degrees and sunny here in the Bronx.
Nick Swisher turned and snapped off a salute to the Bleacher Creatures during roll call. Johnny Dangerously did his usual two-handed point off one knee.
Joba vs. Garza, two guys with good cheese. Should be a fun one to watch.
UPDATE, 1:35 p.m.: Joba’s last 10 innings: 2 runs on 4 hits. … Meanwhile Alex just jogged out a pop-up that was dropped. He could have been on second. Cervelli did the same thing yesterday. The way the wind blows around on this field, running out pop-ups is important.
UPDATE, 1:51 p.m: Teixeira makes at least one and often two plays a game that Jason Giambi wouldn’t have even attempted. Tex is obviously a very good 1B. But when you view it through the prism of having watched The Big G there, he looks like equal parts Keith Hernandez and Don Mattingly.
UPDATE, 2:03 p.m.: Pretty swing there by Swish from the left side as he extended his arms and crushed a high pitch from Garza. All tied up at 1-1.
UPDATE, 2:35 p.m.: The Yankees have made at least one error in five straight games. Wonder what that record is?
UPDATE, 2:40 p.m.: I’m not a big believer in defensive metrics because they can’t possibly account for how a player is positioned by coaches, field conditions and other factors. There is some merit to them, but they can’t tell the whole story. But based on having watched most of the games this season and all of spring training, Jeter is moving laterally a lot better than in recent years and is making more plays to his left and right. His defense has improved considerably.
UPDATE, 2:48 p.m.: OK, Nick Swisher walks a lot. But Melky Cabrera? The Yankees need to make Garza pay this inning. First and second, top of the order.
UPDATE, 2:50 p.m.: It’s 1-1 in the fifth inning at home and you have Derek Jeter try and bunt? That is bad, bad, baseball. It’s Derek Jeter, let him swing the bat.
UPDATE, 2:51 p.m.: Brilliant, he fouls off two and then nearly grounds into a DP. You play for one run, that’s what you get. Play for a big inning and a knockout punch. Giving away outs in a 1-1 game is a bad idea.
UPDATE, 2:53 p.m.: The Yankees have handed this situation pretty terribly so far. Now watch Tex blast one.
UPDATE, 2:55 p.m.: Brutal. First and second, nobody out and they fail to score with the top of the order up. Maybe if Jeter had just been allowed to hit from the start he might have done something like get a hit.
UPDATE, 3:06 p.m: Game saver there by the Melkman. That ball gets by him and it’s two runs and a triple for Zobrist.
UPDATE, 3:09 p.m.: Joba’s lack of control is what has cost him this inning. He walked Joyce and fell behind Gross.
UPDATE, 3:40 p.m.: Yankees going quietly these last few innings. Blowing that opportunity in the fifth inning looks like the story of this game, at least so far.
UPDATE, 4:00 p.m.: Well, here is another opportunity. Runners on the corners with two outs for Alex.
UPDATE, 4:01 p.m.: I always find it ironic that Grant Balfour became a pitcher. I wonder if Joe Strikethree is out there somewhere.
UPDATE, 4:03 p.m.: Ball four from Balfour. He’s out of the game. Based loaded and one out for Robbie Cano. He’ll face lefty J.P. Howell, the son of Thurston and Lovey Howell.
UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: This is like slow torture for the Rays as Howell walks in a run. Now it’s Posada with the bases loaded and the Yankees down a run. Mo is in the pen. A single brings him in to try again.
UPDATE, 4:10 p.m.: There’s where not having Evan Longoria hurts the Rays. That’s an inning-ending DP with him in there. Instead it’s 3-3.
Matsui can make up for a bad day here. By the way, Yankees are 19-0 when holding the opponent to three runs or less.
UPDATE, 4:11 p.m.: Boy, Matsui is brutal. He grounds to second again but it was slow enough to bring in a run as he somehow beats the throw. Yankees lead 4-3. Can Mo handle Joyce, Gross and Navarro? You have to think Longoria pinch hits at some point.
UPDATE, 4:16 p.m.: Very, very, very interesting appearance here for the Sandman.
UPDATE, 4:19 p.m.: Dillon on deck, not Longoria.
UPDATE, 4:21 p.m.: Longoria it is. What a situation after yesterday.
UPDATE, 4:23 p.m.: It would seem Mariano made a point there as he gets Longoria to ground out weakly. Yankees win 4-3. Back later with more.
It is amazing to see some of the mediots from NY tabloids blaming Girardi, for Rivera’s struggles yesterday and that he disrespected Mariano. That is bunch of bull.
Rivera has been extraordinarliy great from Yankess for many year. But the truth is he is not that great any more due to age, which is fully understandable. Even his saves have been adventurous these days and he is going to blow some of them like the other closers.
But balming Girardi and his decisions on Mo’s struggles is reckless on the part of these mediots.
SJ44
June 7th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Let’s hope this place doesn’t turn into crybaby central like yesterday.
It’s almost as if the crybabies were bused in here yesterday.
This is a very good team that will be in the race all year.
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SJ, do not have too much of a hope.
This place is full of Kids and they will be like that.
How are they saying he disrespected Mo? I didn’t see the game.
BBFan -
Agreed about not blaming Girardi. Can’t fault the decision to bring in Mo, can’t fault the decision to walk Longoria and can’t fault the decision to take Mo out when he did. He did not “embarrass” him. And as far as Mariano wanting to face Longoria – of course!! He wouldn’t be Mo if he didn’t think he could get everyone out. But the matchup with Upton should have ended better. It didn’t and that’s not Girardi’s fault. Girardi put Mo in the best position to get out #3. How is that bad?
The Yanks might be in the wild card race all year, but Boston will pull away in the division chase. In fact, I’ll make a prediction that, for all intents and purposes, the Red Sox will have buried NY by next weekend.
jennifer -
Because Girardi told him to intentionally walk Longoria.
The Red Sox, Yankees and more than likely the Rays will be jockeying for position all season long.
It should be (mostly) fun. Pennant races usually are, unless you take the position that your team has some kind of divine right to first place.
Hold it, yesterday was the series opener vs. the Rays, right? Can’t we still win two of three?
I don’t ccare about first, just wild card.
Quick post -
Even better, it is still possible to win 3 of 4.
forget numbers and stats. i never feel good when mo comes into a tie game. even if he shuts down the other team it seems like the yankees are usually in extra innings with less than inspiring pitchers left.
i know it’s against the book at home , but often i wouldn’t pitch mo in the 9th in a tie game. sabathia was a better option in my opinion yesterday.
Of the bad situations that occured in yesterday’s game, the best thing to see was the two base running plays by Rodriguez. It would appear that he’s getting healthier and that he’s trusting the repaired hip more. I doubt that you’ll see 15-20 steals, but, you’re likely to see more than 5 or 6. He also seems less reluctant to slide than run full bore on the bases including home to first. That can only help the offense.
GB7 -
Good point.
randy l -
Good point about having less than inspiring relief pitchers available after Mo if they don’t win right away in a tie situation.
1 more, and please answer my questions. I wouldn’t have put Mo in in a tie game. But I absolutely can’t knock Girardi for doing it.
Doreen, thanks. Just checked back up.
Mo’sflatcutter’s – Now there’s great enthusiasm. Who do you even bother watching? It’s not like 1998 again, nor will it ever be, but I get a feeling you’d still say the same stuff even if it was.
It’s not like the Yanks are the Orioles, Nationals, Pirates or Royals right now. They’ll be in it all the way to the end.
The Rays are a good team, despite their injury-depleted record, and along with Boston there are three really competitive teams in the division.
Instead of thinking of it like you do, think of it as being an interesting battle all season long. As far as I can see, it should be fun to watch.
Quick post -
Yes, it was the series opener yesterday, but they play 4 games against the Rays. Hence, it is still possible for them to win 3 of 4.
Doreen-
Thanks. I just looked for curiosity. I am shocked to see Mo has issued 2 well now 3 IBB in his CAREER!! WOW.
Quick post -
You’re welcome.
“Hold it, yesterday was the series opener vs. the Rays, right? Can’t we still win two of three?”
Not with the Yanks mediocre pitching and inability to hit with RISP, no.
2-9 vs Boston and Tampa. The Yanks cannot compete with either of them head to head.
NY had a miracle stretch with a bunch of lucky comeback wins. That luck is over now.
ANSKY -
It definitely should be fun to watch. Also, on some days, like yesterday, a little crazy.
Panic has really set in after a one loss to the Rays? The Yankees have a good team, no team including Boston has an invincible closer. The Yanks will be battling the Sox all season. The Rays won,t have enough resources all season to keep up.
Oh OOOPS, I think I am still recovering from yesterday. 2 was for post season!! DUH!
31 now 32 for regular season. So do these reporters mean to tell me that 31 of those IBB were never called from the bench? Give me a break. Joe played the odds and lost. It happens.
Yesterday I played the odds a lot and lost!
I personally don’t think Girardi was trying to embarrass Mo, but you’d have to ask Mo how he felt before reaching the conclusion that he wasn’t embarrassed by being asked to walk a dangerous hitter. It’s a pride issue, as always, particularly with the great ones.
This thing with Mo is not new. Same problem last year, tie games he’s not as good. Can’t knock Girardi, but why are we thinking the world is ending. He’s blown only one save, so far just like last year.
No surprises, nothing to get worked up about. Yesterday was not our day. CC and Mo had rare stinkers (not helped by Coke). We’ll get em’ today. Stop overreacting.
the red sox added two key guys to their bullpen in ramirez and saito.
having a strong bullpen overcomes some other things and allows a team to steal some wins.
the yankees have better starters and a better offense.( pedroia’s ops would make him a team average player on the yankees )
is the bullpen cashman’s weak link this year?
the red sox made two surgical strikes getting relief pitchers last winter in saito and ramirez. i think cashman is going to have to answer . bruney is totally unreliable because of his injury history.
Mo’sflatcutter, leave. Dude. Come on.
Actually, let me add that Mo’s uncharacteristic response (by not standing by his manager when asked = which was a first for Mo) tells us a lot about how he felt.
Ansky,
Don’t get too upset with the dire prediction crowd. Voicing their fears of the worst possible outcome is simply a defense mechanism for the weak minded. If they imagine the worst possible outcome, they can only be pleasantly surprised, because they have already prepared themselves for the worst.
A miserable way to live, but those that can’t cope do what they must.
Mo hasn’t been good in tie games for at least 2-3 seasons now. It is very odd.
Yeah, Cashman has to get an arm for the pen. I think that’s the only way we win first. We can make the playoffs, but as a wild card unless we get a pen’ arm.
Mark in Tampa, I do that!
tampayank
June 7th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Panic has really set in after a one loss to the Rays? The Yankees have a good team, no team including Boston has an invincible closer. The Yanks will be battling the Sox all season. The Rays won,t have enough resources all season to keep up.
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Panic starts when the Yankees don’t score by the time the second batter has batted in the 1st inning. Nothing new there.
Trust me guys, even if we are swept by Tampa, it’ll be totally overshadowed, good or bad, during the Sox series. People lose their minds over them.
Mo’sflatcutter -
Does that mean, since the season is over for your, that we won’t have to hear from you again today, at least?
Jennifer -
WOW – I didn’t see that. What a stat. I still don’t think Girardi embarrassed him by telling him to walk Longoria. It was obvious Mo wasn’t exactly on and Longoria is a really dangerous hitter. Upton is slumping in general, and hadn’t had any luck at all against Mo.
Pete’s article also says Mo’s only allowed 4 or more runs 8 times out of 864 appearances in his career. That’s another WOW.
The Rays are gonna battle for a spot, may even sneak in (hopefully at the Sox’ expense). Don’t be fooled.
If Pedroia’s OPS makes him average on our team, what is Cano’s OPS? Above average? Anyone?
Be interesting if it were better than Pedroia’s.
RISP avg. is SO overrated. We scored seven runs yesterday. That loss had absolutely nothing to do with the offense. It was lost by the three pitchers.
The last time I checked, NYy is tied in losses with the “Boston Super Power”. They also have a 4 game lead on Toronto in the loss column and 5 over Tampa in the loss column.
“sab
June 7th, 2009 at 9:44 am
the redsox traded hanley ramirez, arguably a top 3 player in the game today, to get beckett AND had to take a washed up lowell and his money (which of course turned out to be a good thing but at the time it wasn’t)..”
Meanwhile who is it that they want back ? how many yrs. does Lowell have left, is Lowrie any where near what Hanley would have been, Nope.
“whats the point? the point is you have to trade good players to get good players….whats the point?…the point is melancon, brackman, betances, delarosa, banuelos, jackson, montero and whatever other MINOR leaguer you want to name here are just that MINOR LEAGUERS which may or may not be any good in the majors….trade a few of them now before its too late and we find out that they aren’t major league quality..”
It’s called depth for a season, for instance when Wang went down Hughes filled in for him quite well. And god forbid one of those arms turn into the SU man or the next CL.
“if we have to trade 3 really good pitching prospects to get us a quality reliever and OF’er then so be it….”
LOL no.
“the yankees will have 5 starting pitchers next year that will be on the team for at least 4 or 5 more years (cc, aj, joba, wang, hughes) the betances, brackmans and banuelos won’t be abe to sniff that starting rotation EVER…so why not trade them now so we can try to win a few World series now…”
Andy is soon riding the sunset, AJ ain’t a picture of endurance, w/ a few of those they may not take 4 – 5 yrs. I can name 3 on that list that could rocket through the system.
“i’d trade jackson and 3 of these so called excellent starters in the minors for mclouth and either soriano and gonzalez from the Braves IN A SECOND – i don’t want to take my chances that jackson fizzles in the bronx and mclouth turns out to be the next torii hunter – (by the way someone named torii hunter as available last year and he wanted to be a yankee – maybe that was the time to get a “torii hunter”)”
The Hunter you wanted was a FA at 32 and $90 MIL through 2012, the kid you want to trade is free and is 9 yrs. younger, also Nate McClouth is no where near Tori Hunter or Austin Jackson in fielding, he certainly isn’t a great hitter, as his 250 – 260 AVG would tell you.
Wel IF they get Bruney and Marte’ healthy the bullpen is better. Marte’ had no velocity after coming back from Baby Doc Selig’s goofy little tournament and it has cost the Yankees dearly.
Nady looks like he’s ready to hit, but if neither he nor Matsui can play in the OF you just have an added pinch hitter. Still Nady with one arm surgically removed would be more useful than Angel Berroa. Then again so too would be a pile of scoopings from the Central Park Carriage lineup.
CASHMAN WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR!
Boston is good. But they’re beatable. They are not an invincible team.
Interesting phenomenon: We have tied the game in the eighth against the Rays 4 times this year. We are 1 and 3 in those games. Our one win was at Tropicana Field. Our three losses were at home.
Weird.
jennifer -
Still – that’s not too many over the years.
I don’t have a problem with Mo disagreeing with Joe there, nor am I surprised that he did. He thinks he can get everyone out, as he should. I don’t even think it’s a bad thing that he said it was the manager’s decision – it was. Girardi plays the percentages and the match-ups.
The bottom line, though, is that Mo didn’t get Upton out.
And Coke failed.
And ARod made a costly error.
From the leadoff triple, I had a bad taste in my mouth about how the game would end up. Oddly, if it was a leadoff double, I would have felt better.
Who would’ve guessed Upton playing deep in the bottom of the ninth? Live and learn. They gave it a shot, scored two and hit the ball hard 2 of the next 3 outs, and if Upton plays his normal CF, at least Cano’s falls in.
Good luck to Joba today.
It is Pedroia, .839 to .825. But Cano is much higher SLG, his low walks will keep him from ever having a great OPS. However, if OPS is close, as it is, I would rather have the player who is doing it with the higher SLG. BBs are great, but doubles, HRs, etc are more valuable to me than walks. Sooner or later, somebody has to put the ball in play.
I’d trade a few of the “sleeper prospects” for a bullpen arm. People like Brackman and Garcia, maybe ven Romine since we have Montero.
Mark in Tampa, sounds as if these two players are very evenly matched.
You have to remember, if Peroia gets on he steals, which Robbie rarely does.
ven is even.
And Peroia is Pedroia.
Bruney holds the key to the future success of the Yankees. If he can stay healthy (and that’s a big “if”) and perform like he did earlier then the bridge to Mo is figured out. As for Mo, I just hope he builds up his arm strength. He needs to be around 93-94mph, not 91-92 to be effective with that cutter.. He is not same Mo, but he should get the job done.
“I personally don’t think Girardi was trying to embarrass Mo, but you’d have to ask Mo how he felt before reaching the conclusion that he wasn’t embarrassed by being asked to walk a dangerous hitter. It’s a pride issue, as always, particularly with the great ones.”
Rivera did not say he was embarrassed. I think he answered correctly. Every pitcher says he did not want to walk any one intentionally. But, ultimately, it should be the manager’s call and Girardi did the right thing yesterday.
It is the mediot that drew that conclusion.
The Yankees already have Nate McLouth… he just goes by the same Nick Swisher.
Swisher .244/.356/.456/.812
McLouth .260/.339/.460/.799
Swisher is more versatile, McLouth has more speed.
Swisher walks more, McLouth steals some bases.
Neither is particularly good defensively.
Swisher turns 29 in November, McLouth turns 28 in October
Montero did not play for the Thunder last night. There’s no update on Mike Ashmore’s blog. Anyone hear anything?
Swisher actually plays decent right field, arm nowithstanding.
You can live with a bad arm. Damon has a chicken arm.
Oh and on Nate McLouth fans, here’s food for thought he’s basically Nick Swisher only faster and more athletic. His best position is not CF, he is a COF.
McLouth
RISP: .346/.438/.615 <— good
Late/Close: .167/.200/.292 <— unclutch (he ain’t Melky)
Swisher
RISP: .237/.407/.421 <— gets on base & slugs every once in a blue
Late/Close: .269/.457/.385 <— He ain’t a easy out, when he digs in
So nice food for thought.
Murphydog, from a previous thread: I completely agree. Joe didn’t even have the tact to go out and talk to Mo and see how he felt about it. He just ordered Mo to do what he said. I don’t care that Longoria had hit a HR off him last time at bat – so what? Mo has never gotten players out who got hits off him the last time? Edgar Martinez used to hit Mo pretty well, but not once was Mo ordered to IBB him. Joe made the whole thing worse by not talking to Mo at all – and I think that’s what Mo is upset about.
girardi did nothing wrong. He’s the manager, it’s his call. Didn’t work out, but I can’t blame him.
The only prospects off limits for me would be: Montero, Jackson, Hughes and maybe Brackman.
I’d listen to demands for any of the following: McAllister, Melancon, Romine, Garcia, De La Rosa, Kontos, Banuelos, Bleich, Kennedy (I know he’s injured)
86w183, we woke up w/ the same thought today
Not Melancon. Melancon will be our closer one day.
“I’d listen to demands for any of the following: McAllister, Melancon, Romine, Garcia, De La Rosa, Kontos, Banuelos, Bleich, Kennedy (I know he’s injured)”
De La Rosa is being watched by alot of scouts, LH’s that throw like him are rare in the game.
Z-Mac everyone you talk to saids he’s going to be special for some team.
Melancon I don’t see going anywhere unless the Yankees are wowed w/ a position prospect and BP arm.
Kontos I could see dealt.
Banuelos isn’t going this yr. LH special arm, very rare.
Bleich I could see and so could Kennedy.
I doubt Melancon is leaving.
I think we can add a better pitcher than Melancon down the road via free agency. My point is I want to win now and I think we can win in the future without Melancon.
I forgot to add Betances and Aceves to my list. I’d make them available too.
McAllister
Melancon
Romine
Betances
Aceves
Garcia
De La Rosa
Kontos
Banuelos
Bleich
Kennedy
If Cashman fails to add a late inning reliever using those chips, he’s got problems.
The only players he should keep off limits are Jackson, Montero, Hughes and Brackman. There is plenty of depth in this system and on the major league roster to pull off a blockbuster deal without it sinking our farm or sabotaging our chances of winning in the future.
“Joe made the whole thing worse by not talking to Mo at all – and I think that’s what Mo is upset about.”
Once Girardi talks to him, Mo will say he wants to pitch and then if Girardi orders IBB, it is even worse. Manager is in charge and he made the decision. The bootom line is Mo blew it and he has to accept the responsibility.
Speaking of manager talking to the pitcher, have we all forgotten what happened with Pedro, where we were the benficiary?
I love Mariano, but Joe is the manager, it’s not a democracy, if the team flounders Joe gets fired Mariano doesn’t.
SJ, plenty of people were crybabies to be sure – it got incredibly annoying. However, there are people who are expressing concern about the team that make good points that I don’t think should be lumped in that category. There is reason to be concerned on a couple of levels. One, that Boston, without making a trade, has improved itself because Beckett and Lester have turned a corner. Of course, we went into the season believing they were going to be very good anyway. Two, they have a solid rest of the staff. Three, their pen is very good and their offense is good as well (which you know they will improve anyway). The Yankees SP, despite the names, just hasn’t been that great. Yes, they’ve been much better over the past few weeks, but have they all really pitched to what we thought they were going to ? Beckett and CC are a wash – after that, advantage Sox. I do have concerns about the offense as they leave themselves with too much to do late in the games – it’s great that they come back and they ARE very resilient, but that is what I call playing with fire. They don’t seem to have the ability to score from the beginning without subsequently going cold in the middle of the game, letting the opposing pitcher off the hook and giving the other team a chance. In other words, they rarely have laughers – and that’s not a good thing. I’m not expecting blow outs on a regular basis, but I just feel the Yankees are walking a fine line here. They will not be able to come back all the time and especially not against good closers like Paplebon. Face Joe Nathan down in the 9th and 9 times out of 10 (like most teams), they will not come back – he’s too good for that.
These are honest, legitimate concerns. For a very good team, the Yankees have some serious flaws.
Betsy
Perhaps they should have taken an infield vote to see if Mo should have pitched to Longoria?
It’s Girardi’s call. Same as putting on a bunt or a steal. The manager calls the shots and the players follow the orders. If Mo had a problem with it, Girardi’s office has a door on it.
If it worked out would everyone think Mo was embarrassed by it? If anything, Mo was embarrassed by the result not the manager.
One more thing. They should’ve traded Coke in the offseason.
Our starting pitching is better than the Sox.
I think Melancon is going to be a special player.
I have no problem with how the ofense scores as long as they score. Who cares when?
Our offense beats the Sox.
time to DH Damon, his defense is beyond pathetic
call up A-Jax, start him in left
outfield D of Jackson in left, Gardner in center and Melky in right
“Stupid idea. What do you do with Matsui?” let him ride the pine
i don’t see cashman trading high end prospects like montero,brackman,ajax,leftie pitchers & pitchers that throw hard.
the yankees like hard throwers,lefties.
prospects are cashmans babies.
mcallister i don’t see being traded either.
i see cashman throwing in an extra prospect or two to keep the higher end ones.
i don’t know who we really like but the yankees are very high on a number of them.
brackman,ajax,montero,mcallister i don’t see going anywhere.
i see ian kennedy being traded if possible.i don’t think the yankees care for pitchers that do not throw hard.
Damon is doing great. Why in the world would you sacrifice that offensive production? Damon plays fine defense.
“I forgot to add Betances and Aceves to my list. I’d make them available too.”
I’d have to be wow’d w/ Betances being dealt, it’s not like he’s Ross Ohlendorf. Aceves is our long guy, very valuable, now for some reason I would deal him, but to a NL team, like ATL, I’d ask for Soriano or Acosta. Since they have arms that they can plug into that role. I just don’t know what Wren wants to do.
Joba gets the Yankees back on track.
If yesterday proved anything the offense is fine, but we need a strong pitching performance.
Matsui is doing fine. He’ll do better than a rookie!
Stupid, stupid idea.
“Montero did not play for the Thunder last night. There’s no update on Mike Ashmore’s blog. Anyone hear anything?”
He was knocked out of the game Friday after plate collision. Didn’t sound too serious, probably just taking a day.
We can agree to disagree, Pat. Anyway, it’s fruitless to debate it at this point. I have no problem with Mo being annoyed enough to say something because he’s always been such a good soldier. I will not get on his case because he’s expressing his frustration – I’ve heard plenty worse from players.
“time to DH Damon, his defense is beyond pathetic”
I agree.
We are debating about MO, CC etc.,. for yesterday’s loss.
In fact, I believe the game was lost earlier with poor defense by Damon number of times, including the ninth inning.
If Melky were in the right yesterday, we would have won the game.
Damon’s defense is fine, he just has no arm.
I have been very impressed with the tone and tenor of the comments that last day re Mo.
Mo SEEMS to be not as great as he used to be. Why? Age, recovery from surgery, not on the juice, worm holes, divine retribution who knows.
Will he regain his once dominance? Well who can say.
Is it unreasonable to expect a near 40 year old man to be a dominant as he was as a 30 year old? Well yes.
Girardi is the manager, so he managed. I am not sure he needed to go out and beg wheedle or convince Mo what to do, he is the manager he made the call.
The whole scenario must be shocking for Mo, should be, it is unchartered waters.
Having watched all the Sox games, Papelbon is either clearly injured or has changed his MO and motion to ensure NOT getting injured to get a big contract when it is time. He is NOT the same pitcher he was. He now seems more like K rod, a lot of guys get on base, then he bails himself out.
Tampa is a good young team, great athletes, and a bullpen that has reverted to the mean this year.
The rest of this year should be fantastic, lets enjoy it!
What bothered me yesterday was the situational hitting. You need three runs, so a hit or a walk are equal. The first three did their job, Tampa is in trouble. Yet Al refused to walk and whiffled out on a pitch out of the zone. Next, Upton is playing deep, yet both Posada and Cano went for the gusto. Low percentage at bats. You could predict the results. That’s what finally bothered me. The East is a beast and the hitters need to ‘marten up.
“call up A-Jax, start him in left”
He’s not ready. You want the link where the coaching staff said to wait till later this yr. or in 2010 b/c they don’t want him getting deer caught in headlights syndrome esp. w/ new york fans.
William Buckner -
Thanks. Knew he was knocked out of the one game. I was just hoping he wasn’t seriously injured. I guess if he was, we’d have heard from someone somewhere.
Hmm, it makes a huge difference when they score. How often do you think the Yankees can keep coming back? It’s just not realistic to think they can keep this up – especially against the better teams. Why can’t this team hit for much of the game? That’s a question that has to be answered – they can’t keep taking the majority of games off. It keeps the pen exposed and it keeps other teams in games. I’m not saying they are not trying – no way I’m saying that – BUT, there has to be a better way.
Speaking of Damon, good Q and A in the Post today
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....173017.htm
You’re right, it’s the offense’s fault. Seven runs is obviously not enough.
Give me a break, they scored seven runs. This game was lost by CC, Mo, and Coke.
why does melky keep getting dropped in the order??
Betsy, they score five runs a game. It makes no difference when. If our pitchers held them, they would be tack on runs and we’d all be happy.
Damon’s defense is certainly not “fine”.
I stand by my statement: it is beyond pathetic. He’s showing no speed in covering ground (balls falling in front of him, unable to cut balls off in the gap, his legendary girlie arm, etc.)
he’s a DH now. It’s not his fault, we all age.
“Yet Al refused to walk and whiffled out on a pitch out of the zone.”
Com’on the ump isn’t going to give him that call.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....de=gameday
And he actually pulled it to the SS.
“Next, Upton is playing deep, yet both Posada and Cano went for the gusto. Low percentage at bats. You could predict the results. That’s what finally bothered me. The East is a beast and the hitters need to ‘marten up.”
I got nothing to say here.
Bo Knows
The variable you are forgetting was the umps strike zone in the last inning. They were offering at anything close because he was calling pitches below the knees and outside as strikes.
I think we’re creating problems now for the sake of complaining.
We’re complaining WHEN they score runs? That’s not an issue.
The reason we have trouble hitting starters is obvious. They get up to beat the great NY YAnkees lineup.
The bullpen pitchers don’t know if they’ll be pitching against us, so they’re not mentally prepared. Even the better ones. So a lot of the time we can get to them.
As long as we score lots of runs, I’m happy.
Eh, I’m not so hot on Cash and his record with prospects. Joba and Phil are high end talents that look like they will work out just fine (to say the least), but what about the lesser talents? They really haven’t shown much of anything at all. The more of Coke I see, the less I want to see him. Robertson has been up and down. I just don’t see that the Yankees plethora of young arms in the minors are anything more than that – young arms. I don’t think they are capable of helping this team – and certainly not this year. Relying on rookies to lead the team to the playoffs is not a smart idea. People are already clamoring for Melancon again. Forget his brief stint – he’s not even pitching that well in AAA. If he was, sure – call him up. However, I would never assume he’s lock down like so many people are simply because of his minor league track record.
I still think his defense is fine. And you referred to it, and I’m going to point it ot, what about Matsui? He’s good.
I’d take him over a raw rookie.
Hmm, you’re not even reading my posts, so I won’t bother responding to you except to say what I just said.
It would be great if they’d score in every situation as it presented itself. That’s unrealistic to expect, though. They DID score in enough situations to have been in a position to win if the pitching held up, which it did not. CC was great for 6 of his 8 innings. Tampa, though, did enough in those innings to negate all the good he’d done and put the Yankees offense on the defensive. The Yankees actually came back and scored another 2, which would have won the game, if the 9th wasn’t a total disaster by Mo, Coke & ARod (error). If Coke comes in and gets out #3, instead of letting more runs score, the game ends differently.
The offense should not have to score 7 runs to win, not with these pitchers (starting variety).
But, baseball is a game where the team that fails least (wins & losses) ends up on top.
“why does melky keep getting dropped in the order??”
B/c he doesn’t really draw walks, he’s not a table settter. He gets on base a bit, is better used for the btm. of the lineup, you know the automatic outs
I’ve talked to people on the blog who have seen him, and they all say he’s the real deal. (Melancon)
For the record, I couldn’t believe he was even sent down.
“Our starting pitching is better than the Sox.
I think Melancon is going to be a special player.”
LOL, the starters are mediocre. Boston has a better starting staff, without question. And Melancon is still probably cleaning his underwear from pooping his pants during his recent stint in the majors.
Melky’s left-handed swings are off since the shoulder injury. Garza’s a RHP.
“The variable you are forgetting was the umps strike zone in the last inning. They were offering at anything close because he was calling pitches below the knees and outside as strikes.”
If anyone should have pissed him off it should have been Georgy’s AB, god he swung at ball 4, 5, 6 & 7
Okay everyone, who would you rather have…
–Boston’s starting staff or the Yanks?
–Boston’s bullpen or the Yanks?
–Boston’s bench or the Yanks?
–Boston’s offense or the Yanks?
–Francona or Girardi?
Betsy, sorry if you think I’m attacking you or something (I’m not) but I don’t buy it.
When we score runs is NOT an issue. It’s not. As long as we score runs.
Sometimes we won’t come back. So? If we normally scored runs early sometimes we’d be shut down by a good starter. Such is baseball. You can’t win every game.
The offense is the strenght of the team, not a weakness because they can’t score runs early. If the pitching did it’s job they’d be tack on runs.
Doreen, I agree with everything you said.
“LOL, the starters are mediocre. Boston has a better starting staff, without question.”
This is not true, atleast I don’t believe it. Now you want to say better BP, that is true and a fact, Boston’s SP rotation isn’t better than the Yankees if it is not by much.
Mo’sflatcutter, Yankees starters, lineup, and bench. Yes bench. Who does Boston’s bench have? Bulpen goes to Boston.
At least back up your comments with exaggerated stats used to make depressing points.
Mo’sflatcutter, please.
The link to the Damon article doesn’t work…..
Our starters are better. CC over Beckett any day, please.
Damon, Matsui, Nady… deepest DH depth chart in baseball history. Of course that means you don’t have nearly enough outfielders, but thank God Angel Berroa is still around.
Mark in Tampa –
What the Chicken Littles, bridge jumpers, Negative Nellies, Debbie Downers and crying crybabies complain & whine about is of no worry me. I like to see how it pans out. Sometimes it gets frustrating (how the team does, not the crying) and of course it’s more fun when the team is winning, but I like to watch regardless.
Hmmmm …
Where ya been? Haven’t seen you posting in a while. Avoiding game threads like some of us?
Maybe Mo’sflatcutter should just give up and become a Sox fan if he/she isn’t already.
ANSKY, is there another Hmmm…? Seriously. I’ve never posted before. Read, but not posted.
Oops.
MO’s flat cutter can go back to Southy. Only a Sox fan would say the Yankees can’t compete with Tampa and Boston after 11 games. They play these two teams 36 times so that means there are 25 more to go. And oh, by the way, the Yankees won the season series against both of these teams last year and this is a much better Yankees team. Go post something on the Boston Globe website about how great Fenway Pock is. And oh, by the way Youklis, Pedroia and Varitek are all gay.
I’m not trying to tie the can to the offense. It’s baseball. The next ten times Cisco calls for a changeup to a softie it will work, chit happens. Mo didn’t have it today, move on. It’s the nineth inning and the Tampa pitcher is shakey, he’s given up three solid hits, you need three to win. Three runs before three outs. That’s the situation. The odds are agains’t you. I’m talking about maximizing your chances. Both Al and JoPo refused to walk. If it was a one run game I could see it.
Attention, baseball: I hereby declare that all close calls go AGAINST the Yankees, especially vs. the Red Sox. Also, from now on only Yankee pitchers will be suspended for throwing up and in or buzzing people. Why? I hate the Yankees.
Good day.
Just catching up on posts. I don’t have a problem at all with Girardi telling Mo to walk Longoria. I remember a game last season when Moose was pitching and Manny was up. Girardi went out to the mound and asked Moose what he wanted to do. Moose wanted to pitch to Manny, Girardi allowed it and Manny hit a HR. Of course the media and fans were all over Girardi for not intentionally walking Manny and for letting Moose make the decision. Girardi is the manager – ultimately it is his decision.
The offense gave CC a 2-0 lead yesterday. It’s not like they didn’t score any runs and had him pitching from behind all day.
I for one feel uneasy about Bruney’s elbow problems. Cashman needs to be 1st in line for Huston Street talks. If Bruney comes back at full health then it’s a bonus.
In today’s game, Aceves and Robertson are available.
“It’s Girardi’s call. Same as putting on a bunt or a steal. The manager calls the shots and the players follow the orders. If Mo had a problem with it, Girardi’s office has a door on it.
If it worked out would everyone think Mo was embarrassed by it? If anything, Mo was embarrassed by the result not the manager.”
So, suddenly Mo is a problem child who needs to remember that the manager’s office has a door on it? It’s the same as Gardner not stealing the other night? Not even close.
Mo is not rookie Brett Gardner. He is also not a crybaby or complainer. Part of Joe’s job is handling players and he’s had a serious communication problem or two in the past. Let’s not make believe Girardi is Torre when it comes to handling the psyches of players. He has other talents, but that’s not been one of them. Joe Girardi is still learning to be a manager.
So what if Joe goes to the mound and tells Mo to IBB Longoria and Mo disagrees. It’s Joe’s job to sell it. That’s managing. It’s not a democracy? Well, successful managers know it’s not a dictatorship either, especially with closers and especially closers like Mo. IMO, Joe should want to make sure there are no misunderstandings with Mo, just as much as Mo wants to be sure there are no misunderstandings with Joe. It’s a mutual problem, not Mo’s alone. They need to talk and not with Mo going on his knees to the Managers’ office.
murphydog, I had zero problem with Mo saying what he said. I also had no problem with Mo doing what he did.
Sorry, second sntence replace Mo with Joe.
Hmm and Doreen – I wasn’t talking about yesterday’s game (and CC didn’t pitch well – blowing two leads is not good and AJ would get completely hammered for it). I’m not saying the offense is a weakness – far from it. I’m just saying that I have some issues with it, as I just described. Are you saying you wouldn’t like to see more consistency from it? They do go cold for long stretches at a time – and yes, I believe they are playing with fire. If they make the playoffs, I don’t believe they will get away with this against good teams. I don’t think criticizing the offense should be taken as complaining.
As to the SP, in order for the Yankees to be better than the Sox, it HAS to be quite a bit better than the Sox’ SP because of the pen……..and it’s not. The Yankees do not have two SP who, on a regular basis, can completely shut down opposing teams. I think Wake is better than Andy……and Wang is still a wait and see proposition.
the weiney heineys are out in full force!!! abandon hope all ye who enter here!!!
brandon – although i respect your extensive experience and insight – you can’t just say that AJ will be injured – what if he isn’t? if he doesn’t get hurt he WILL be here 5 years since no one is going trade for him to pay him that kind of money – cc i doubt will opt out in 3 years since again NO one will pay him that kind of money – joba, wang and hughes will still be in their mid to late 20′s in 3 years – so in actuality YES all 5 of these pitchers will be in the starting rotation in 4 to 5 years (minus a few starts for injuries)….the yankees have at least 9 minor leaguers with skills to be starting pitchers….even if they turned the entire rotation around they’d still have 4 extra starters that wouldn’t break that rotation…trade them now before we find out that they realy aren’t that good…
lets face it the yankees haven’t had any success with ANY of their minor leaguers recently (joba maybe and cano- but the jury may still be out on those 2) – i’m not a minor league expert but isn’t jackson having trouble with striking out too much? if he’s having issues in the minors wouldn’t he have even more trouble hitting in the majors?
do you think he’ll fix those problems in 4 months? plus i hear his ceiling is 280, 20 homeruns (and THAT is a huge stretch), 80 rbis and 25 steals – thats mclouth AND those numbers are established with mclouth…
we as fans like to put too much value in what the yankees have in the minors…maybe the reality is that only 2 or 3 make it as successful major leaguers – plus we can’t hold on to EVERYONE….the big team needs some players now – if we have to trade a “hanley ramirez” now (or minor league equivalent) to get a top established MAJOR leaguer to win THIS YEAR then i say it should be done….
we aren’t getting a top reliever or of’er for jose friggen veras or dave robertson….we want a rafael soriano or mclouth we have to trade jackson, melancon, mcallister or montero – and if montero becomes the next johnny bench so be it – as long as we win 1 or 2 WS with soriano (or equivalent)pitching the 8th (and 9th) then it was well worth it – that was the Red Sox’s philosophy with hanley and beckett and as much as it pains me to say – they have the right attitude….world series rings trumps minor league greatness and the red sox have 2 more than the yankees the last 9 years….
Hmmmm …
There was another Hmmmm … posting until sometime last year but he/she seems to have disappeared.
Some people might guess that like some regulars, that Hmmmm may have gotten tired of engaging in some of the lunacy when things go wrong. Perhaps they still read, but there’s no way of knowing.
The ace CC and the best closer in baseball,fell to a 500 team.When Yankees fan want to vent out of frustration,they are called names.
What fan base can never be allowed have doubts from time to time on performance.
*Maybe when the team fades prior to post season or*
*quickly exit after the first round again,would it be ok*
*to call it like it was,a joke of a rotation* ,that is over paid and uder performed.
“I for one feel uneasy about Bruney’s elbow problems. Cashman needs to be 1st in line for Huston Street talks.”
B/c they are so in a rush to deal him right ?
Betsy, it hasn’t gone cold for quite some time.
I have no problem with consistency. It could just keep doing what it’s doing now.
SP is better than the Sox, lineup is better. Maybe by a little, but still. Sox win BP. That’s it though.
And oh, by the way Youklis, Pedroia and Varitek are all gay.
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They are? Well it IS a gay rights state there in Massachussetts.
ANSKY
June 7th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Maybe Mo’sflatcutter should just give up and become a Sox fan if he/she isn’t already.
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Ding ding.
So why take the bait? The poster’s username is clearly aggressive – not only not a Yankee fan, but supports nothing posted and makes indefensible comments w/zero baseball credibility (Yankees staff is mediocre – sure it is, pal).
Yankee fans don’t hold hands and sing “Sweet Caroline” such as the gaiety of the Green Sardine Can do.
CC is doing fine, minus yesterday’s start. He’s having an excellent year.
Don’t expect CC to be Santana, expect him to be Pettite in his prime.
Which is fine. Plus he eats more innings.
The big difference between CC and Pettite-CC could pull an absolute gem, a complete game, 2 hit SO from nowhere. Pettite never really did that.
Mo’s Flat Cutter = Troll obviously.
The Yankees “miracle” run included excellent pitching and great hitting.
I hate trolls.
“I for one feel uneasy about Bruney’s elbow problems. Cashman needs to be 1st in line for Huston Street talks.”
“B/c they are so in a rush to deal him right ?”
Maybe Cashman vcan sell them Jose Veras the same way he is trying to sell Veras to the Yankee fanbase.
“I for one feel uneasy about Bruney’s elbow problems. Cashman needs to be 1st in line for Huston Street talks.”
“B/c they are so in a rush to deal him right ?”
Maybe Cashman vcan sell them Jose Veras the same way he is trying to sell Veras to the Yankee fanbase.
Brandon -
Not a question of Colorado in a rush to deal Huston Street. Like many teams, they’ll be in an economic mode and the team is going nowhere. Dwindling attendance will see them in a listening state of mind.
Hey guys.
I didn’t want to walk Longoria because I wanted to get out of the inning fast and I figure that when my cutter is working I’m the best-better than anybody, even Longoria. I was assuming, since it’s always happened before, that I’d get it working.
Girardi didn’t want to risk it and told me to walk him. So I did. It didn’t work out.
Later, I said that I didn’t want to walk him. So? I wasn’t attacking him, just telling the truth. That’s all.
Get it guys? Das’ it.
The nice thing about Gameday is you can go back and look at an at bat after watching the game and check what you think you saw on the garage TV, on your sixth beer. It’s worse than a frat house with all the yelling and arguing. That’s where a player like Mattingly was so great as a situational hitter, he adjusted to the situation. Why was Upton playing back? To take away the doubles. What did Posada and Cano do? Three runs before three outs, that’s the situation. Agains’t the odds, you give it a shot. No fault in losing, only in decreasing the odds. How did Tampa score their runs in the same inning? I watch to be entertained and want my team to win, simple.
sab, AJ’s history tells me I should and would proceed w/ caution. Jackson having trouble with striking out too much in AAA is normal, it happens, but hitting above .340 despite that shouldn’t be overlooked either, they just shortened his swing recently and expect him to progress over time, again he’s 23 not 33.
McLouth isn’t more than a Nick Swisher in production, at Jackson’s age he wasn’t as good, funny thing about McLouth he didn’t do a thing until age 25 or 26 and Jackson is going to be ahead of his pace. The big team needs Bruney/Marte to pick up thier performance and stay healthy, it’s that simple.
“we aren’t getting a top reliever or of’er for jose friggen veras or dave robertson….*we want a rafael soriano or mclouth we have to trade jackson, melancon, mcallister or montero – and if montero becomes the next johnny bench so be it*”
That’s called dealing out of desperation, something I’m glad Cashman is not doing.
murphy
I said nothing about Gardner’s steal, you did. All I was saying is the buck stops with Girardi. All in game decisions are his to make. Some work, some don’t but ultimately he’s the one who answers for them so he gets to make them.
If players don’t agree with them, there is a way to handle it.
Mo isn’t a problem child. I’m guessing if he knew his response yesterday would have set off a media flurry, he never would have said it. He’s a team player and always does what is best for the team.
That’s why it was out of character for him. He let his frustration/embarrasment/whatever you want to call it be known and that is not the typical Mo MO- so to speak.
what?
AJax could be a 300 hitter with good defense and nice speed.
“Brandon –
Not a question of Colorado in a rush to deal Huston Street. Like many teams, they’ll be in an economic mode and the team is going nowhere. Dwindling attendance will see them in a listening state of mind.”
They’ll wait for the best deal, and try to swindle a team. Really I see him ending up in Philly.
Betsy,
No team is perfect. The Red Sox have flaws of their own.
The problem here is, after every loss, every idiot and bridgejumper comes on here with silly and often incorrect dire predictions.
That’s not baseball talk. That’s idiot talk.
As the trade deadline nears, they will upgrade the pen.
Until then, folks ought to chill out and not freak out so much after losses. It’s embarrassin to see so many people make fools of themselves.
Trade Veras for Huston Street!
“Maybe Cashman vcan sell them Jose Veras the same way he is trying to sell Veras to the Yankee fanbase.”
You think anybody is happy w/ Veras right now ? heck if he’s trying to find a sucker for him by all means.
SJ, you’re on the money right there.
Cashman will find a good arm guys, don’t worry.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....173017.htm
Maybe this link will work……..Johnny is very honest about Torre.
I wish you’d post more MurphyDog, although I know you’re busy. I always appreciate your take on things.
SJ, didn’t you hear we’re in last place.
Link doesn’t work Betsy
SJ, well I definitely agree with you there. It’s absolutely crazy, but then I don’t really believe those are honest-to-goodness Yankee fans (why don’t they ever show up outside of game threads). They seem to live for being miserable and, frankly, they seem to detest their own team.
Ugh, sorry Kelvin. I guess the only thing to do is go to NY Post.com and check it out – this has happened before with the Post links – not sure why
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....173017.htm
Entertaining poll: What was the most entertaining win of the year (lots of choices guys)?
My vote goes to six runs in two innings vs. the Angels. That was the game I really looked at and thought that if our pitching got itself together, we could be something special.
Don’t feed the va ga bond.. oops… hobo trolls.
When I hear people complain about Mo, or say that CC is not an ace, and the other complaints; what it does for me is give me some perspective of the past. I mean, the Ron Guidry of ’78 was obviously not an ace. He had 3 losses that year! That means he went to the mound and let his team down with a terrible effort 3 times in a single year! He also had an ERA above 1.00, and had the nerve to be considered an ace. Furthermore, he didn’t even win every postseason gamne he ever started with a shutout. What a bum he was by today’s standards!
just highlight the link, place it on the web browser bar and click the go arrow. Stop being lazy.
Cashman will wrest a setup man/closer type away from somebody and when Bruney and Marte come back along with Melancon being called up the Yankees pen will likely be stronger than the Sox’ pen.
No way in hell it cost them a Montero or Melancon type of prospect.
Montero isn’t getting traded ever unless the name Albert Pujols or Hanley Ramirez is on the other end of the trade.
I’m out for the afternoon. Go Yanks!
Don’t talk to strangers in the game thread and it will increase your enjoyment level no matter the score.
Yeah I just checked it out Betsy, Pretty neat Q & A.
Mark in Tampa, if he pitches like Guidry, no complaints there.
I’m not complaining, just pointing out that he’s not Santana, nor was there a reason to expect that he would do more than he has done.
Q: Define the personality of this Yankee team.
A: Motivated.
Q: Isn’t every Yankee team motivated?
A: I haven’t seen one like this from top to bottom.
Q: Does this team remind you of your “Idiot” 2004 Red Sox team?
A: Somewhat. This is a very fun team to be around. . . . This is a team that you want to be on for a long time, a team that you can just tell they’re going to have a lot of fun in the next couple of years.
Q: Does the word swagger apply to this team?
A: Yeah, we’ve got it.
Q: How do you see it?
A: We think we can win every game.
Just some stuff and the Torre talk was a bit wow.
Brandon, I love those answers.
Anybody see Jerome Preisler’s article on Melky and the spirits? Ask Melky. He believes the ghosts of Yankee Stadium have crossed the street.
It’s a weird group this yr. but they sure have more heart than I’ve seen for yrs.
This team never says die.
Betsy – Thanks for the Damon Q + A link.
Pretty revealing answer regarding the Torre’s book.
Q: Were you disappointed or surprised to see that in his book?
A: I was disappointed, because where it first came up, I had a private conversation with Torre and (GM Brian) Cashman at the beginning of spring training, telling them that I wasn’t ready. It was a tough winter for me, and it was a private thing. And then the private thing ends up being put in his book. Well, as a player, I feel like he’s a tough guy to trust.
This is totally unrelated to baseball, but Congrats to Roger Federer for finally getting that French Open monkey off of your back.
DT, what was the “private thing”.
Hmmm….(2),
I wasn’t about you, I have no problem with complaints or disappointments, I feel the same way much of the time. It is the sky is falling, so and so is no good because he doesn’t come through every single time crowd that is so annoying.
And by the way, Mr. October, my foot! Sure Reggie hit 3 HRs in one game, but only one could have been the game winner! That means he hit two meaningless Arod type homeruns in one game. Stat padder!
Laura, not the same since he didn’t play Nadal.
*wasn’t TALKING about you*
Mark in Tampa, all right.
if needed cash will trade for a pen arm but he won’t give up highe end prospects like ajax,montero for it.
the only way you trade those guys is for a good young starting pitcher or an established position player wich most teams don’t trade.
bruney will be back in a few days,marte hopefully soon,maybe 2-4 weeks & that will make us deeper plus give girardi more options.
everybody else gets pushed to the 6th & 7th innings.
bruney coming back & pitching well can go a very long way in stabilizing the pen.
if wang can get on track also we are looking better than the sox or at least dead even at the very minimum.
cashman is not going to sit back & watch the pen cost us the season.
if he has shown us anything in the past it is he will get what it takes to try to make us better.
i woulds love to see him trade for a great 8th inning guy.we can use him in the 7th,8th & maybe close once in a while.
Hmmm…. (2)
June 7th, 2009 at 11:43 am
DT, what was the “private thing”.
here is the link – http://tiny.cc/5w0hB
“the offseason before — broken bone in my foot, the devastating loss of life with Cory Lidle — I wasn’t prepared coming into the 2007 season physically or mentally.”
“Laura, not the same since he didn’t play Nadal.”
He played Nadal a couple of weeks ago on clay and beat him so in his mind, it still counts. In my mind as well.
Thanks DT.
Game 56: Rays at Yankees (Updated with Yankee trade for Huston Street)
Ok I can dream right?
This team always fights and never says die
However, so does the opposing team, especially against our bullpen.
Well, I guess that’s true Laura.
In my mind he needs to beat Nadal in the final to validate his win. Not playing him was a lucky break.
the phillies are going to be in competition with us for bullpen help.
Edwards, good point. But our offense is better than most, if not all.
The gutty gritty yankees
Mr Veeck,
Sadly, I doubt Cashman will give up what is necessary to get him.
Instead, he will fix the pen by acquiring Arthur Rhodes from the Reds.
“In my mind he needs to beat Nadal in the final to validate his win. Not playing him was a lucky break.”
Well, Soderling proved that Nadal was beatable on clay. Federer might have done it as well. We will never know and I’m sure that Fed is glad he doesn’t have to find out.
Brad Lidge has turned into Jose Veras
Laura that is also true.
“Sadly, I doubt Cashman will give up what is necessary to get him.
Instead, he will fix the pen by acquiring Arthur Rhodes from the Reds”
Actually he will claim Jamie Walker off waivers.
Q: Were you disappointed or surprised to see that in his book?
A: I was disappointed, because where it first came up, I had a private conversation with Torre and (GM Brian) Cashman at the beginning of spring training, telling them that I wasn’t ready. It was a tough winter for me, and it was a private thing. And then the private thing ends up being put in his book. Well, as a player, I feel like he’s a tough guy to trust.
Pete Sampras > Federer
I don’t care if Federer breaks Sampras’ record either Sampras is still better than him.
Girardi seemed to have a major brain fart last night, CC throws 120 pitches in games that we’re losing by two or three runs but only 100 in a game that is tied when the last few years have proved that Mariano CAN NOT pitch in non-save situations, I really don’t understand some of the moves he makes.
I saw that Ortiz hit one out yesterday. I was mildly impressed until I saw that he hit it against Kris Benson. Let me see him hit one against a real person and then maybe, I’ll believe that he’s on his way back.
Sampras is the best.
“I don’t care if Federer breaks Sampras’ record either Sampras is still better than him.”
No way. Sampras never won the French, thus he never won the Grand Slam. You can’t be the best if you don’t win on all surfaces.
If Nady can throw and field a bit, maybe, just maybe, he lands you a Manny Acosta or Rafi Soriano. I do wonder what the Marlins would want for Matt Lidstrom, anyone know if he’s FA next yr. ? or is he still on service yrs.
Has anyone noticed how often our starters blow leads?
Contrary to the perception, we DO get early leads often. However, very rarely does our starter hold them. They usually give up the lead or allow the other team to tie after we score. Thus, it looks like we’re lethargic early on and don’t score early.
If CC holds the 2-0 or 3-2 lead yesterday… things look a lot different. Then the team is getting praised for winning in a variety of ways and not just via rally, rather than getting killed for the same thing.
“Brad Lidge has turned into Jose Veras”
Can we trade for him them ’cause I’d rather have Lidge than Veras.
Sword, true.
Q: Wounded Warriors Project?
A: We want to make sure that none of them are forgotten for their duties to our country and for giving us freedom
“No way. Sampras never won the French, thus he never won the Grand Slam. You can’t be the best if you don’t win on all surfaces.”
Sampras played against better competition. I don’t care if he never won a French open.
Figures that the French would be a clay surface considering how soft the country is.
Pete Sampras > Federer
Joba hasn’t blown many leads, and he’s quietly ending the starter-reliever debate with his great pitching, everyone needs to remember great starters are not born great starters, they are developed into them
raymagnetic-
marte is a puzzle. he seems to be falling into that recent pattern of relief guys coming to the yankees and not performing like the back of their baseball cards.
the yankees are very good despite the bullpen, but at some point they need two good guys to emerge out there.
Anybody who supports our troops is okay by me.
“Can we trade for him them ‘cause I’d rather have Lidge than Veras.”
Until Lidge came here of course and got hammered.
raymagnetic, agreed.
I just realized Tommy Hanson’s MLB debut is today.
“Figures that the French would be a clay surface considering how soft the country is. ”
LOL! Of the four, it’s my least favorite tournament. Between the surface and the obnoxious fans, I could do without the French Open.
“Until Lidge came here of course and got hammered.”
Only if he got hammered less than Veras.
I don’t like France, but I like the uniqueness of the Fench Open.
Just pointing out now, NOT a big Tennis fan, only pay attention to the grand slams.
Fench is French.
Washington could use Veras as their closer, since there closer is just as bad as Veras
The loss yesterday was disappointing, but if we can take the series, all will be well.
Randy,
I’m thinking Marte has been hurt the majority of the time he’s been with the Yankees.
I still think he’s better than guys like Veras and Ramirez when healthy.
He may not be the 8th inning guy but he’ll be useful for the Yanks.
I agree though, Cashman has to find a couple of good late inning relief pitchers to solidify the team.
Maybe Phil Hughes becomes one of those guys?
*Anyone know if Matt Lidstrom is a FA next yr., and what do you think FLA would want for him ?*
Ahem, you’re a star in baseball if you screw up 60 percent of the time. I’m sure the starters don’t say “Okay, I’ll blow this lead so I don’t get a W today. So saying our starters are giving up leads too often is right there in, wearing the pointy hat sitting in the corner thing. As in “What a maroon”
Cashman isin’t going to get rid of Veras because he throws 95
*Anyone know if Matt Lindstrom is a FA next yr., and what do you think FLA would want for him ?*
My fault.
Bo knows, he was pointing out that the reason we rally often is also due a lot of the time to starters bllowing leads, that’s all. Not the offense all the time.
“Just pointing out now, NOT a big Tennis fan, only pay attention to the grand slams.”
Tennis is the only other sport I follow as closely as I do baseball. If you did a poll of the players and asked them to vote on one Grand Slam tourney to go, I bet the French would get the most votes. Everyone loves Wimbledon, most love the US Open and the Australian. Only a handful like the French (Nadal being the biggest supporter of the French).
McAllister = Doc Halladay LIGHT (not Doc Halladay current)
No way I give him up. Only for Neftali Feliz, Tommy Hanson, Stephen Stratsberg etc.
Tennis to me is just like golf and horseracing. I watch the major stuff like the grand slams and opens and triple crown. Otherwise I don’t pay attention.
I love football (not QUITE as much as baseball but close), like hockey, am not a basketball fan (although Lebron James is fun to watch).
“No way I give him up. Only for Neftali Feliz, Tommy Hanson, Stephen Stratsberg etc.”
Can’t get Strats, or Tommy, I’d give Melancon/Z-Mac for Feliz right now.
“I love football (not QUITE as much as baseball but close), like hockey, am not a basketball fan (although Lebron James is fun to watch).”
I don’t follow football at all. It’s just not a sport I enjoy. I used to follow basketball when Jordan was playing, but now that he has retired, so have I.
What about acquiring Billy Wagner?
He is going to start throwing in June… and could be ready by August. He would be a very nice weapon down the stretch. Lefty throwing 96… knows how to handle NY, a great closer in the past
Would be a very good pick up.
For a second, I thought Brandon was wondering what we could get for Nadal, lol
I don’t really follow tennis anymore, not since the days of Boris Becker, but I like Nadal. You can’t take anything away from Federer – it’s not his fault Nadal didn’t play well enough to make it to the finals.
I can’t speak for last year, but I think it’s now obvious that Marte wasn’t healthy since the WBC. I don’t know if the Yankees rushed him or what, but I find it interesting that now he’s been on a throwing program. Why wasn’t Marte put on something similar in ST ? He should be better once he’s back as presumably he’ll be healthy……..Bruney will help as well, but it appears he’s going to be touch and go for the rest of the season. Cash has to pull a deal off before the Rays or anyone else does…..I’m still nervous about acquiring anyone. These types of deals never seem to work out. Can we honestly trust Street to pitch in big games in pinstripes?
Distd, decent idea, but we need help sooner than August.
We have to get a bullpen arm. We can’t really worry about whether they can handle NY or not. We’ll figure it out, won’t we?
Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzales are both FAs next year
Lindstrom only has 3 yrs service time… still a ways to go before free agency.
“Can we honestly trust Street to pitch in big games in pinstripes?”
I srsly believe he’ll land in Philly. McDonald/some one would go to Colorado.
Matt Lindstrom has a 6.17 this year and has basically lost his job to Leo Nunez
He is another Farnsworth… throws hard and does nothing else. Doesn’t even strikeout a batter per inning despite having a 100 MPH fastball.
“Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzales are both FAs next year”
Dammit Nady get healthy already, so we can package you w/ Aceves or Edwar Ramirez + Coke.
Aah, I got carried away with the Bugs Bunny quote. Overkill.
That’s why I love baseball. CC is smokin, throws one bad changeup and the world turns to doo doo. Sometimes you get the bear….
Grown men and a raft of kids sitting in the garage on broken down couches, yelling at a TV screen. The neighbors wince, smile politely and ask how it’s going.
Who cares about the arrival, it’s the journey.
“He is another Farnsworth… throws hard and does nothing else. Doesn’t even strikeout a batter per inning despite having a 100 MPH fastball.”
I just think he needs a change of scenery, he’s not a CL and has been pushed to that. Maybe he can be a SU guy on a playoff contending team, plus one would imagine that 6._ _ ERA makes him more easier to get ? No ?
Hey all. Just jumping in to say GO YANKEES!!! GO RANGERS!!! GO NATS!!!
I guess that about covers it all.
Won’t be around for today’s game but you know I’m totally there in spirit and will have the tape running. I am so looking forward to watching Joba win today’s game for us.
If anyone gets really oppressively negative (anyone seen Deborah around these parts today?) feel free to quote me: boyayfl.
3.14 ERA last yr., what has change so much ? maybe it’s motivation, or rea;izing he’s on a bad team.
Marte since 2004:
2004 – 3.42 ERA (CWS)
2005 – 3.77 ERA (CWS)
2006 – 3.70 ERA (PIT)
2007 – 2.38 ERA (PIT)
2008 – 3.47 ERA (PIT)
It’s not like this guy has been some kind of shut down pitcher. His only great year in the last 5 was 2007.
He also doesn’t seem to be able to handle a big workload. And his control hasn’t been great in his career.
His best role is a LOOGY and occasionally pitch an inning.
Seems that some unnamed scout is saying Ortiz is older than he claims.
“The chances of his birth certificate being accurate are zero,” the scout said. “That’s both birth certificates. Remember, he was David Arias [when he played in the minor leagues for] Seattle.”
If this is true, I wonder if the Sox would attempt to void his contract. [Pure speculation, on my part.]
http://tiny.cc/TSaMC
Well okay, if you want to be word-for-word literal, it would be bioyayfl.
Later.
“Maybe Phil Hughes becomes one of those guys?”
raymagnetic-
let’s save that one until we really want to cause trouble on the blog
PHIL HUGHES IS A STAHTIN PITCHA’!!!!
HIM IN THE BULLPEN IS ATROCIOUS! ATROCIOUS!
Srsly in the case of Matt,
*In addition to his velocity, Lindstrom is also a groundball pitcher. His GB/FB ratio last year was 1.54, which led to a microscopic 0.16 HR/9, the fourth-lowest total among relievers. Some might think that he’s in for a major regression but in 2007 his HR/9 checked in at 0.27 for the year.*
So control his walks, you get a gem. AL doesn’t know him, it’d be a sucker punch if he returns to 07′ mode.
All I can say is that the Yankees NEED to fix their bullpen. I watch a lot of Mets games, and while they don’t have very good starting pitching or offense, they have relievers who can come in in the 6th inning, and not give up a run through the end of the game. Imagine how good the Yankees would be if they had a bullpen like that (or Boston’s).
Right now, there’s no way I trust the Yankees’ bullpen to hold opponents down for multiple innings at a time. Even when our starters go 7-8 innings we can’t lock down wins and it’s a battle till the end.
It’s especially disturbing that the Yankees are 2-9 against the Red Sox and Rays, because almost all of those games have come down to the final innings. Rivera alone has blown 3 of those games.
http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....position=P
Only difference from 07′ 08′ is that he’s not throwing his CB or CH, I wonder why
“Brian Bruney threw two 15-pitch simulated innings and felt good. “Two thumbs up,” he said as he came off the field. But the Yankees will be cautious with him. He could throw another simulated game, then some live BP and then a go to the minors for a rehab game or two. At an every-other-day pace, he could be 8-10 days away.”
“Damaso Marte will throw a bullpen in Tampa today”
That’s good news on Bruney. Seems help is on the way, god willing.
Didn’t everyone say that the Mets got a steal with JJ Putz and they now have 2 closers and the best 8th-9th in baseball?
Going out and sticking another team’s closer in the 8th inning rarely ever works. You have to develop those guys or catch lightening in a bottle.
Who is the last team to acquire a big-time set-up man/closer via trade and have him perform well?
“Marte since 2004:
2004 – 3.42 ERA (CWS)
2005 – 3.77 ERA (CWS)
2006 – 3.70 ERA (PIT)
2007 – 2.38 ERA (PIT)
2008 – 3.47 ERA (PIT)
It’s not like this guy has been some kind of shut down pitcher. His only great year in the last 5 was 2007.”
Tom, those numbers might not look spectacular, but if Marte was putting up an ERA like that this year, that would make him one of our top relievers.
Tank, good question.
Those numbers seem fine to me.
no longo
Upton, cf Crawford, lf Aybar, 3b Pena, 1b Zobrist, 2b Joyce, rf Gross, dh Navarro, c Brignac, c Garza, p
Rays lineup
CF Upton
LF Crawford
3B Aybar
1B Pena
2B Zobrist
RF Joyce
DH Gross
C Navarro
SS Brignac
Jeff Nelson’s carrer ERA with the Yankees was 3.47
Mike Stanton’s career Yankee ERA was 3.77
If we have a lead in the 9th or are tied… no way Girardi can go to Mariano
I’ll take my chances with Phil Coke, or perhaps Tomko who has thrown the ball well lately.
Good news on the injury front……
If Cashman can steal Lindstrom and we get back Bruney, and Marte actually does something..add Melancon some time in the summer…this could get interesting.
“Going out and sticking another team’s closer in the 8th inning rarely ever works. You have to develop those guys or catch lightening in a bottle.”
You’re right, and that’s exactly what happened with Boston to give them such a good bullpen. They developed Papelbon, Delcarmen, Bard, and Masterson (all hard throwers except for Masterson, who has a heavy sinker) and they caught lightening in a bottle with Okajima and Saito, who no one expected to stay healthy. They did make a very good trade for Ramirez, however.
Jobber better deliver a big performance today
He has to realize we are facing 2-10 against the Rays/Sux, and then we’ll be on the verge of a sweep with Andy going tomorrow who can’t get anyone out these days.
Oh and it would be nice if the offense decided to show up before the 8th inning this time. How about sending Garza to the showers in the 3rd inning? I know he is good but still.
Jon Heyman twitter:
mariano very polite. before signing, asks lad in dugout if he wants his autograph
RS,
Exactly.
Cashman needs to make a couple of “Ramon Ramirez” type trades. Guys who can come cheaply that are under the radar. There are effective relievers in baseball aside from Bell and Street.
Steve Karsay
Armondo Benitez
Kyle Farsworth
Mark Wohlers
Mo
Lindstrom
Bruney
Marte (if he realizes he can throw a ball good)
LH (either Dunn or Kroenke since Coke would have to go)
Melancon
Aceves
That’s an interesting little BP no ?
“RS,
Exactly.
Cashman needs to make a couple of “Ramon Ramirez” type trades. Guys who can come cheaply that are under the radar. There are effective relievers in baseball aside from Bell and Street.”
Ironically this is something he’s done well. Our bullpen is made of bits and pieces and has done okay.
What we need is a lights-out proven set-up man and move Bruney into a 7th inning role.
If Tampa had not blown the game open, JP Howell (the closer) would have stayed in for the bottom of the 9th rather than Maddon bringing in Wheeler.
So you can’t say for certain that we would have won if we had held them to 1-2 runs.
I can understand the skepticism for Bell…. 32 years old, entire career in the NL, Petco Park/NL West, West Coast guy etc.
But where is Street getting this bum rep from? He is 26 yrs old and has a 2.91 career ERA, most of it in the AL. Averages a strikeout per inning, doesn’t walk anyone.
His worst year was last year, yet he had a 3.21 ERA after the All-Star break.
Street is the goods. Of course, he would cost a ton, but he would be a great addition.
Knowing Cash he prbly deals for Matt Capps
sorry couldn’t resist it.
“So what if Joe goes to the mound and tells Mo to IBB Longoria and Mo disagrees. It’s Joe’s job to sell it. That’s managing. It’s not a democracy? Well, successful managers know it’s not a dictatorship either”
When did managers making decisions become dictatorship.
Let us be realistic, Mo lost the game yesterday. That is not criticising him, it is simply stating the fact. It is a pity that some people jump at it like Mo was being criticised.
the rays lineup outside of longoria & pena do not impress me.
i’d like to see our pitching attack hitters & let our defense do its job.
forget walking batters on purpose & make them beat us.
No Longoria in the starting lineup.
“Xavier Nady threw from 90 feet yesterday. That would seem encouraging.”
That’s right grasshopper throw so we can deal you this summer.
Should be a good game today. If Joba doesn’t pitch 8 stellar innings, tomorrow will be one of those “dont listen to Mike Francesa” days. One can only stand so many hours dedicated to a tirade about Jobber being in the pen.
On the other hand, Harry is going for his 10th win for the season, I think this is the lead of all the majors right?
There are no must-wins in June but today is close, IMO. No Longoria, Bartlett, or Burrell in the Rays lineup, which is the equivalent of us missing Teixeira, Damon, and Matsui. Joba should be able to handle this Rays offense.
We lost with our ace and star closer on the mound yesterday, with the Rays pitching their rookie starter and throwing Randy Choate out there as their closer.
The Rays are battered right now, and winning big games against us is only going to make them feel confident about their chances to make a playoff run, especially when they get healthy again. Garza is one of their best pitchers, and if the Yankees can get off to a good start against him today, that would deflate the Rays a bit. It’s about time the Yankees knocked around a GOOD starter, because that’s the one thing they haven’t been able to do all season.
What is this? mo is immune from a call from the bench? People want Joe to ask his permission?
So Joe’s supposed to walk to the mound, convince mo this is what he wants to do, walk back to the dugout, and then call for the IBB?
That makes it less embarrassing?
mo is frustrated with himself. Nothing more, nothing less.
mo may be the greatest of all time, but he’s still a player, and he still takes the signals from the bench.
maybe the IBB affects his approach to Upton.
Lesson learned yesterday. Don’t give it away, because there’s always a chance the hitters can get it back for you. If Zobrist was the only man that scored, and IF we still got those 2 runs, the Yankees win.
Rivera may have been embarrassed, frustrated as is his right. But he would be wrong if anyone, including the writers, felt that he was disrespected.
Lets hope Joba breaks his hands from his release well or else it’s Diet Coke snap day tomorrow.
MO couldn’t even get out Zobrist and Dillon
Why would Joe risk him pitching to Longoria? He had NOTHING yesterday. It was the right strategic move.
I commend Joe for doing that, shows he is more concerned about winning game than feelings… give me hope that he will start replacing Jeter with Pena late in games with a lead.
Is YES Network the best team channel on TV?
yesterdays game obviously did not end the way we wanted to but the yanks fought back the whole time, they tied it, and then tried to do it again in the bottom of the 9th.
last years team would have packed it in.
regarding mo, he usually does this type of thing in a tie game, it should come to no suprise but i think bc it was the rays who have beaten him before, its made into an even bigger deal.
Any sites gonna stream this?
RS,
You are 100% right. Most people here have already written off the Rays, but they are a VERY dangerous team. They have had a terrible year, tons of injuries, yet they are right there.
Never want to give a young team like them confidence. They already know what it feels like, they can taste it. We have to start beating these division teams. Tampa is beat up right now and there is no excuse why we shouldn’t beat them.
This division is going to come down to head-to-head games. All these teams will crush the out of division competition.
Two things are apparent. Rivera has a tough time in tie games. And the Rays & Sox can hit him.
So in regards to last night’s question, those are the only times I worry about mo. And maybe when he faces Scutaro.
At this point, every day is “Don’t Listen To Francesa Day.”
“Q: Were you disappointed or surprised to see that in his book?
A: I was disappointed, because where it first came up, I had a private conversation with Torre and (GM Brian) Cashman at the beginning of spring training, telling them that I wasn’t ready. It was a tough winter for me, and it was a private thing. And then the private thing ends up being put in his book. Well, as a player, I feel like he’s a tough guy to trust.”
As much as I still like what he did during his earlier years as Yankee Manager, I have a low opinion of him as an individual given every thing he ratted out in his book.
1. Domon’s situation is a good example.
2. He did the same about the priviate conversations he had with GM Cashman about some players.
3. He wrote about a private phone cnversation Roger had with his mother.
4. Fianlly, irrespective of Goerge’s flaws, Torre should be eternally grateful to him for gving him the chance when he was alredy a washed out manager and was nobody as a brodcaster. The vendetta he showed against Goerge in the book including writing about his private health situation is below any kind of dignity.
Did Kim Jones interview swisher yesterday? If so where can I find it?
We make fun of teams like the Rangers and Tigers, citing our superiority over them because they haven’t beaten anyone.
Who have we beaten exactly? 2-9 vs. our 2 big division rivals, lost a home series to Philly.
We may be better than Texas/Detroit, but that is not good enough. We may have more talent than these division teams, but until we beat them on the field, it means nothing.
BBFan
Don’t forget the private conversation with Alex. The twisting the ring one.
I hope this is a joke:
Hideki Matsui continues to play some outfield during batting practice in preparation of interleague games at NL parks. “We have to figure out how much he can play in those games, if we can double-switch him in or start him,” Girardi said.
He can barely run to 1st or 2nd base on a single or double and he is supposed to play the outfield? Thats really funny, lol
Wow Rachel…. Interleague play is going to be a disaster.
I can just picture Matsui in Dolphins Stadium in a couple weeks, turning singles into inside the park HRs and triples to the speedy Marlins.
Any streams?
“I commend Joe for doing that, shows he is more concerned about winning game than feelings… give me hope that he will start replacing Jeter with Pena late in games with a lead.”
Great point.
These veterans (Mo, Jeter, Posada and later Pettitte in the second half), have to get used to it. Sure, we won a lot with them, that does not mean we have to lose by keeping them in the game when they are effective as they get older.
It is not about criticising them or not recognizing their past achievemnts but recognizing the fact that as players get old and reach fag end of thier careers, they can not be as good as they were when they were young.
What a great day for a baseball game.
“He can barely run to 1st or 2nd base on a single or double and he is supposed to play the outfield? Thats really funny, lol”
RF I guess
Jennifer- Yes she did. It was a great interview too, not sure if its posted online yet though. I couldnt find it on their website.
“UPDATE, 12:31 p.m.: Longoria was not cleared to play. But he could pinch hit again.”
More proof that Girardi should have let Mo face him.
Lets go Yankees!
full houseeeeee……. with some empty legends seats lol
Please don’t walk upton
Classy move on your party Brandon.
Christine- Thanks, I had it recorded, but deleted it. Now I am ticked!
Eventually it will get up.
Last time I checked this was a baseball blog not politics.
Politics are lame. Keep it out.
“Classy move on your party Brandon.”
If 2/3 of this blog knows what I’m talking about, then I’d be surprised.
Jobber looks sharp.
talk to Eiland about those hands breaking now.
Jobber!
I want to see a perfect game this season (by the Yankees).
“If 2/3 of this blog knows what I’m talking about, then I’d be surprised.”
we have the internet…movies get seen
Jobber is NOT a starting PITCHAAAAA. Give me Porcello’s starts!
Can Kay stop with this nonsense. Mark Tex tied a record held by many. 3 put outs. WHO CARES!! It is such a stupid statement. Enough. it is like he is a 12 year old boy doing the game.
Who cares if he mentions it? I like it.
jennifer June 7th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Can Kay stop with this nonsense. Mark Tex tied a record held by many. 3 put outs. WHO CARES!! It is such a stupid statement. Enough. it is like he is a 12 year old boy doing the game.
I don’t know, after hearing some of the other broadcast this year, Kay doesn’t seem all that bad.
way to make’em work capitan
Nice to see another good first inning from Joba. Maybe he is beginning to exorcise those first inning demons.
I echo the congratulations for Roger Federer. Not only is he a champion, but he is also classy and a great ambassador to the game, can’t ask for anymore than that.
At Wimbledon, he will break the tie with Sampras.
francessa always mentions porcello based on only a few starts but uses joba’s few starts against him.
very flawed argument.
Mike Francesa making a flawed argument? Really?
I always thought the first inning problem was Joba pacing himself and getting in trouble. I wrote two weeks ago he needed to open up throwing his two-seamer which sinks nicely and gets him some easy outs and he’s done that his last two starts.
Jennifer — I agree on that line from Kay. I’ve also heard him say the same thing when all three batters ground out that the record for assists for inning has been tied which is completely untrue. You can get more than three assists in an inning, because of the fielder drops the throw you still get the assist.
Garza is going to be tough.
Zobrist finally goes down.
what could be the reason for joba’s inconsistent velocity from start-to-start..is it mechanical, physical, mental? i cant figure it out
tex is awesome
“Garza is going to be tough.”
Joba will be tough too.
It is a good match up and it will be an enjoyable game.
Tex showing off the Gold Glove.
Francesa is going to pollute the air waves if he doesn’t get to the 8th..Tex I’m starting to have a crush on you or your glove.
I will be very disappointed if Tex doesn’t win the Gold Glove this year.
Ralphie,
Its all mechanical.
“Francesa is going to pollute the air waves if he doesn’t get to the 8th..Tex I’m starting to have a crush on you or your glove.”
Brandon, be sure to let us know where you and Tex’s glove get registered.
*shaking her head at the political comments*
Francesa is going to pollute the air waves if he doesn’t get to the 8th..
=================================
Especially with what happened to Mo yesterday. Be good Jobber. Please, or else tomorrow will be Jobber should be the heir to Mo day..again
Is Garza going to hit a Yankee now?
“Ralphie,
Its all mechanical.”
i guess that makes the most sense but is this common for young pitchers..maybe its just more noticeable for joba because he can throw 97 so that when you see 92 its a big difference..i guess another pitcher that would normally throw 92 but struggles to hit 89 is less noticeable
I disagree. Joba’s fluctuating MPH readings are more a combination of pacing himself, which he has stopped doing and the ridiculous inconsistency of radar gun readings.
26 pitches in two innings. That’s excellent efficiency. Could this be the first low scoring, homer free game in the new place?
RalphieD, I would say it’s physical. It takes him an inning or two to get warmed up. This is why they had him start throwing in the bull pen the last time out like he was simulating a game.
Hahaha
Nice break there.
A-Rod lucks out there.
haha, gamedays first video highlight is pena getting hit by a pitch….talk about looking for stuff.
If your ambition is to get banned from commenting, make political comments of any kind.
That is not going to be allowed on this baseball blog. Period, end of story.
Rays have had some big names on the DL too.
jet stream my…
I’m pretty happy that Federer won yesterday. I was always a fan of his.
Doesn’t look like there will be much offense today.
At least they’re making Garza work.
Matsui has got to stop pulling those outside pitches. He gives away so many at bats doing that.
if you believe in the fallacy of the predetermined outcome…if arod hustled and was on 2nd on the bloop and the inning played out the same…the yanks might of had a run…but who knows
“if you believe in the fallacy of the predetermined outcome…if arod hustled and was on 2nd on the bloop and the inning played out the same…the yanks might of had a run…but who knows’
He wouldn’t have made it to 2nd. That ball made it out to the outfield pretty quickly. And Alex doesn’t run as fast as he used to. Something about his hip.
No offense – the Yankees had three hits in the seventh inning yesterday, count them 3 hits. This inning, A Rod got lucky, Cano insists on making an out swinging at two pitches totally out of strike zone. Posada wants to be a hero and Matsui is pulling off the ball again – low outside tapper to the 2B. It is to weep
ah yes arod, the laziest guy on the team
nice update pete
Tex is REALLY showing off now.
just give him the gold glove now….
tex is really a beast with the glove…look at the range!
Mark is stupid good.
WTH are you trying to make a highlight reel Tex
Tex! Its really so nice to have someone at first like that again.
Tex throws pretty well from his knees.
I’ve got a man-crush on Tex, dude’s a beast.
“Tex! Its really so nice to have someone at first like that again.”
Hopefully LF/RF will get someone like that too. Well more RF.
wow, that 2nd pitch to Upton wasnt even close to being a ball….good job behind the plate blue.
Good thing I think predetermined outcomes are a fallacy (especially in baseball!), I guess.
MVP! MVP!
Throw Strikes to Upton…
2nd time around Joba is having hiccups
Can someone tell David cone that first baseman is plural and he doesn’t have to add an a
“ah yes arod, the laziest guy on the team”
It was in the Post the other day that after the home games, A-Rod works in the batting cage. Nobody works harder than this guy.
Calm down Joba!
Nicely done, Alex.
its hard to get by with pitches down the middle at 91-92…the extra velocity he doesnt have today makes a difference
nice play arod
barehanded play by Alex
Man what a play Alex
Brilliant play from A-Rod.
Why are the yankees not busting upton inside, backing him off the plate.
I mean an s
And how’s that fielding play from A-Rod. Is that OK for you Pete?
Joba has got to start getting ahead of hitters.
Well lets go offense!!
good rebound joba with the assist to arod
He’s not breaking his hands like in that Texas start, it’s going to be awhile before Joba shows the finished product.
corner inf came up big that inning.
Swishaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
there ya go swishy!
Swisher!
Way to go Nate McLo…I mean Nick Swisher !
Swishy!
SWISH!!!
This is the second straight game that Joba has not been throwing many change ups.
Coincidence or does Posada factor in?
Nick-nack-paddy-wack-give-the-team-a-run!
As much trash talking I do about Swisher, he has been looking good at the plate lately. Nice timing as well, getting that run right there.
That is one bad haircut on Swish.
See Pete, this is why people complain that you are biased against A-Rod. You are quick to point out that he didn’t run out the dropped pop-up, yet you don’t say a peep about the great bare-handed play on Crawford. Just saying, fair is fair.
JCPD:
I didn’t realize I was obligated to comment on every play. Yes, very nice play by Alex. Congrats to him and to you.
he looked safe
Bang bang play.
Steve:
I commented on that in light of Cervelli doing the same thing yesterday. Obviously if that sort of thing continues, Girardi is going to have to address it.
I’m also not going to comment on every single play. It’s a long game and I assume most people are listening or watching.
Change up.
Oh look it’s getting up to 95
2 changes to pena..looked very nice
Do I detect a little sarcasm, Pete? Lighten up. It was a nice play, as was Tex’s that you made a point of pointing out, rightfully so. But when you are the first to point out the bad, and beat it ad nauseum, you can’t pretend to wonder why people accuse you of bias towards A-Rod when you don’t also compliment the good. It’s kind of the textbook definition of bias, no?
Pete, I don’t expect you to comment on every play. But you do always point out his not so good plays. Just saying!!!
We all know he doesn’t like the guy just let it go.
zomg, we’re only tied with Tampa, Joba is throwing too many pitches, we cannot win this game, Boston is only down 2 to Texas, they cannot lose, we are all but eliminated already, our next dynasty will never happen and the legacy of the team is forever tainted and they might disband the franchise because of this awful bullpen.
Does that cover things or do I need to get into the locusts and the meteor that’s hurtling towards the Bronx?
Nasty slider.
slider looks to be a little tighter this inning
You A-rod apologists are a joke. He didn’t run out a pop-up, that’s a fact. Who cares what Pete says? Get the sand out of your you know whats
oooooo we Alex!
“Does that cover things or do I need to get into the locusts and the meteor that’s hurtling towards the Bronx?”
The locusts are all inside the meteor hurtling towards the Bronx, along with all of Jeter’s alien ex-girlfriends looking for vengeance.
corner infield is showing off now
1-2-3
nice play arod!!…nice to see the defense have a good day after yesterday;s D
Ah, I thought the first comment was directed at me. Fair enough, and I’ll be the first to admit that A-Rod hasn’t run hard down the line much during his first month back. I guess I’m just willing to forgive it a little more with him right now as he is coming off hip surgery, and I don’t think he’s been a major offender there in the past. At this point, having his bat in the lineup everyday clearly helps, and if it takes him a bit to get up to speed, I’m willing to accept him at less than that right now. The stolen base yesterday was a good sign I think.
Looks like A-rod is regaining some range at 3B, that’s encouraging. The two areas I’ve seen the hip really effect him are in the field and on the bases. Hopefully both areas improve
I have never seen a pitcher shake off Posada more than Joba and Veras do…lol
haha Nick. That about covers all panic stations, I think.
He didn’t run out a pop up? Are you kidding me? He would have got thrown out you A-Rod hater.
Nick – You forgot the swine flu.
By the way, where’s Novato? You seem to be getting around.
“I have never seen a pitcher shake off Posada more than Joba and Veras do…lol”
Except Joba has the better mind to do it with.
Maybe the off day really helped Arod. He has looked much better in the field the last 2 days.
if joba can learn to be more economical with his pitches & go deeper we will be better off.
boston down 2-0
porcello gave up 3 in the 1st but is winning 4-3 but 1st & 3rd,2 outs
All the people killing Arod, did you kill Cervelli yesterday when he didnt run out his pop up?
Carl is right, now way on earth Alex would have been safe at second. Cervelli is a rookie, to imply that the same standard should be used with him and long time veterans is absurd… you think Jeter and Damon bust it out of the box on pop ups? Think again
yes.porcello settled down & got out of the inning.
he is one of my fantasy pitchers.
They need to get Posada and Cano going. In Arod’s at bat Garza probably didn’t mind if he walked him or not. He would of but Arod swung at 2 bad pitches. Tex and Arod have been on base a lot but Cano and Posada haven’t hit a lot recently.
Texas up 4-0
driving the pitch ount up , I can’t be mad at Robi, but wow he just doesn’t strike out.
>I have never seen a pitcher shake off Posada more than Joba and Veras do…lol
Veras shakes his head until Posada asks for the ball high and away outside.
Tommy Hanson no hitter through 5 and Ryan Braun becomes his first hit/HR allowed to 2 – 2 Braves.
“Cano and Posada haven’t hit a lot recently.”
Last 7 days:
Posada: .294/.368/.647/1.015
Cano: .200/.273/.200/.473
Cano is ice cold, but Posada has an OPS of over 1000.
Still, not a good sign for Robbie.
yes
lets go sui
Ole!
Rachel, I dont know what you want from Posada anc Cano….500 averages?
“Still, not a good sign for Robbie.”
But he’s making prductive outs, lately and having better ABs.
Matsui needs some time off.
Matsui rolls over another one.
it is amazing that every time posada comes back from an injury he never skips a beat.
it is amazing for his age & the fact that he is a catcher.
Someone go smack Matsui upside the head. Pull off the ball, why don’t you. Do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
No way Matsui’s in pinstripes next year. Wonder if he’ll retire, sign with another team, or just go back to Japan.
It seems impossible for Matsui to drive the ball anymore. I know he hit the homerun against Texas but he looks old, slow bat and horrible. When he is batting you only need the pitcher, 2nd baseman and 1st baseman on the field. I really don’t think he should be in the lineup everyday especially against lefties and a pitcher throwing hard.
umm
Swisher makes right field an everyday adventure.
Cue Bob Uecker: Juuuuuust a bit outside
I would have swung at that
jussssssssssssssssst a bit outside.
that’s a bad throw
yeesh
Jorge…rushed that one and didn’t have to.
Off throw from Posada. I’d rather have Navarro go to 2nd than break the arm of our #3 hitter.
Right after I read the Posada not missing a beat comment lol.
Probably come back to screw us
one thing about matsui.you know he gives you 100 % every time out.
he is a great guy.
he broke his wrist & appologized to torre because of it.
*I LOVE Joba Chamberlain!* I am actually feeling good about today’s game.
That IDIOT Joe Girardi won’t do anything dumb today because of his embarrassing actions yesterday! All eyes are on YOU, Girardi.
Good job Posada…The Yanks have made up for the errors the last couple of games that they didn’t have earlier. They have been sloppy errors, not running hard.
i was talking about posada’s offense.
Joe: Novato is in northern Marin County. It’s about 10 miles south of Petaluma. I am unable to watch the game here.
The infield has been sparkling aside from Posada.
bru June 7th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
i was talking about posada’s offense.
LOL
70 pitches for Jobber
Crazy how they go 18 errorless games and pick up 6 in 4 games.
Joba’s doing what very good pitchers do. He clearly does not have his dominant stuff. We’re through 5 and it’s a 1-1 game.
He’s already very good. I cannot wait to watch this kid get better and better.
Girardi should treat Matsui the way the Rangers treat Andruw Jones. Only play him against pitchers who don’t throw hard. At this point he really has no chance. Play him like 3-4 times a week. The other days I would rather see Damon DH and Gardner in the outfield or Cervelli catch and Posada DH.
DEBORAH June 7th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I LOVE Joba Chamberlain! I am actually feeling good about today’s game.
That IDIOT Joe Girardi won’t do anything dumb today because of his embarrassing actions yesterday! All eyes are on YOU, Girardi.
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What exactly were his EMBARRASSING actions yesterday?
If Joba maintains his new economical self, he’ll be a Top 5 starter in the AL as soon as next year.
Carl
June 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
bru June 7th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
i was talking about posada’s offense.
LOL
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ammuzed easily.
awesome DEBORAH downer is back…
I so wish there was an ignore function on this board.
That thing on Garza’s chin is just gross.
BTW, this update confused me:
“Jose Molina was in uniform and doing some baseball activities. He thinks he’s 7-10 days away. “It’s not nearly as bad as last time,” he said. “But I need to be able to run.”
When could he run?
Texas is so bad
“That thing on Garza’s chin is just gross.”
It looks like it’s alive!
lol SA.
Nice use of the caps lock key there.
Good pitching duel.
The whiners and trolls must be sleeping in today. Yesterday took a lot out of them.
Nick – you seem to be moving around a lot. Are you in the comedy protection program?
Nick in SF
LOL!
I wonder how he gets it in that reverse volcano shape?
Swish likes facing Garza.
Swisher is just getting hot again. Right in time for the Sox and Mets. Woohoo! Bring ‘em on!
“That thing on Garza’s chin is just gross.”
It looks like it’s alive!
I wish Matt Garza’s name was Billy.
Billy Goat Garza sounds cool.
I hate it when Kay steals my material.
DT: it’s work related. But I am within the confines of the Bay Area, so even though I had to cross the Golden Gate Bridge this morning, it still feels like I’m Almost Home.
Playing hit and run with Swisher and Cabrera.
What team is this? From what I’ve seen these last few years I thought we were only allowed to play station-to-station while waiting for the HR????
“Crazy how they go 18 errorless games and pick up 6 in 4 games.”
Well 2 of those games was Georgy. Melky that was a fine situational AB.
All right. Back to back walks to open up the 5th. Lets make em pay here!
Come on Cap!
I can’t believe the improved at bats by Melky this year, awsome.
Yay Melky!
Nick – working on a Sunday, I’m impressed.
Jeter will swing away now
Girardi is such a dope with these sacrifice bunts, especially with Jeter up. Absolutely absurd.
Jeter can’t get the bunt down.
He better not hit into a dp
not good
Yes, its a bit goat-ish.
I also bet Garza is a blast to be around on National Talk Like A Pirate Day, DT.
Two really bad bunt attempts.
Good slide Melky!
Wouldn’t have been two but a good, hard play.
Tough slide from Melky.
nice baserunning take out slide Melky
I got it Nick.
Almost Home is better than Home Alone.
I dont necessarily think Jeter’s sac bunt attempts are always called from the bench.
hit n run
rays started their pen going
Damon is the anti-2008 Jeter. He does not hit into DP’s.
2-1 coming up.
“Yes, its a bit goat-ish.”
Reminds me of Billy Koch
Not sure why you’re ragging on fielding metrics, Pete. UZR agrees with you on Jeter: http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....S#fielding
Since that Tex slide, we have been all about the takeout slide. I like it.
Garza dialing it up at 96.
That chin hair does make him more goat-like
oh wow
That’s an official “weird play”
Good for Damon to get to 2nd at least.
Bad read by Swisher.
“I also bet Garza is a blast to be around on National Talk Like A Pirate Day, DT.”
Aye… It’s all good until he takes the mound with a patch over his eye.
tough break for Damon, he didn’t mean to swing.
yikes only the yankees
Still would have been an out, can’t really complain about what Swish did.
can they get a big hit..
in my lifetime…….
The inning is gonna be up to A-Rod.
Damon would have been out at first in all likelihood. Now you have 2 fast runners on base.
Wow, he got Tex.
only the yankees man
damn. Wasted chances
Ahhhh Tex they were asking to walk you. Oh well. Joba time.
Should have scored this inning. Oh well Garza surely won’t go past the next inning now.
Billy Koch? Why not Billy the Goat?
Damn that sucks, we had our foot on thier neck, can’t say that leads to good.
Carl
We’ve been good in that spot most of the season, especially lately. Difference between this year and last is last year’s team would lay down and die after not scoring there. This team just keeps going after it.
one more inning for garza then the tampa pen..joba keeps it close (hes at 70) and i like our chances…biggest ab last inning was def damon…he killed it
Tex wishes he had a mulligan on that one.
The good news – Garza is up to 96 pitches. Rays used 5 relievers yesterday.
Pete,
You’re right. Bad, bad baseball. Now Joba has to hold down the heart of the order.
Can you please ask Girardi why he gives up so many outs with this moronic bunting? It’s Goddamn ridiculous.
UGH! What is with Joe Girardi’s man crush love affair with Nick Swisher??? He stinks! Ozzie Guillen was right! Way to go Nicky boy, you probably cost us the game!
I HATE Brett Gardner but I would rather see HIM than Swisher. No matter what, MELKY stays in the OF!!!
Can someone TELL me why Swisher has played the second most amount of games as anyone on the team? He is one of the worst players, bone-headed base running moves, bad outfield plays, I could REALLY go on!
Yeah he has a fun attitude but that means NOTHING when you stink. Become a comedian! Not a ball player! Overrated!
That was fairly miserable baseball right there. Nothing else to say about it. Bad breaks for us, and we just didn’t handle our good fortune well at all.
“UGH! What is with Joe Girardi’s man crush love affair with Nick Swisher??? He stinks! Ozzie Guillen was right! Way to go Nicky boy, you probably cost us the game!”
man you make me sick
That is one time where you can say that was a terrible at bat by Tex. What in the world did he just swing at? They really let Garza off the hook. Jeter should of waited for Garza to throw a strike before he bunts at anything in sight. Then Damon who didn’t mean to swing. Tex has to take the walk in that spot. He swung at a ball and such garbage.
hi 96
“UGH! What is with Joe Girardi’s man crush love affair with Nick Swisher??? He stinks! Ozzie Guillen was right! Way to go Nicky boy, you probably cost us the game!
I HATE Brett Gardner but I would rather see HIM than Swisher. No matter what, MELKY stays in the OF!!!”
Without him, it’s 1-0 Rays. You’ve got to be kidding me.
Hopefully that was sacrasm. Most teams would kill to have a guy like Swisher starting for them and when we’re healthy he might not even be a starter for us. He plays hard and walks.
6th inning. Last pitch: 96 MPH fastball
“But…but…Joba should be in the bullpen because he won’t be able to keep up his velocity through the later innings game”
Drones are strangely quiet today.
With Jeter up in that situation you have to bunt.
dammit Robi is having a tough inning,
time to buckle down
DEBORAH June 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
UGH! What is with Joe Girardi’s man crush love affair with Nick Swisher??? He stinks! Ozzie Guillen was right! Way to go Nicky boy, you probably cost us the game!
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Don’t know much about baseball huh? He scored the only Yankee run. And Damon would have been out at first anyway. Get a clue.
How does this Deborah person get through security ????
DEBORAH
You forgot “How DARE you account for the only run the Yankees have scored today, Swisher!”
This is not good, we can’t give them so many chances…that pesky Zobrist
Come On Joba!! It would stink to give it up now after what happened in the bottom of the inning.
I’m not kidding. And the game should be WAY more than 1-1 and you KNOW that so dont get me started.
What is with you? Swisher is just not that good, SORRY to crush your dreams.
I was wrong, Girardi continues to be an IDIOT. He is so frustrating. I want Lou Pinella.
He’s struck out Zobrist on the slider twice already. Go to it again?
wow melk man!!
MELKY!!!
thata boy melky.
com’on one more out
DEBORAH
is a spoiled rotten tool lol.
Wow Deborah, how do you figure it should be much more than 1-1. Did Nick make all the outs? That would truly be amazing.
DEBORAH June 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
UGH! What is with Joe Girardi’s man crush love affair with Nick Swisher??? He stinks! Ozzie Guillen was right! Way to go Nicky boy, you probably cost us the game!
I HATE Brett Gardner but I would rather see HIM than Swisher. No matter what, MELKY stays in the OF!!!
Can someone TELL me why Swisher has played the second most amount of games as anyone on the team? He is one of the worst players, bone-headed base running moves, bad outfield plays, I could REALLY go on!
Yeah he has a fun attitude but that means NOTHING when you stink. Become a comedian! Not a ball player! Overrated!
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By AnY ChaNcE, ArE yOu ReLaTeD tO aNyOnE tHaT GoEs by ThE nAmE oF JoE FrAnCiScO(ransom sucks around here)?
I love Melky Cabrera
Most underrated player on the team!
You know what. It isn’t worth replying.
Nice play by Melky!
Nice play by Melky. I really don’t like the fact that Joba shakes Posada off all the time. Posada obviously knows more than he does. Joba seems to want to throw his off speed pitches all the time.
Joba getting wild.
he’s struggling this inning
Are we gonna see Phil today?
Girardi needs to get Robertson or Aceves up in the bullpen…
c’mon Jobber
Let’s walk a .214 hitter with 28 at-bats this season.
Bases loaded.
oh com’on blue !
Maybe we will see Youuuuuse today
His stuff is not as good this inning and obviously command not good…
Rachel
At the end of the day it says “Winning pitcher” or “Losing pitcher” not “Winning catcher” or “Losing catcher”. Joba and Jorge have to get on the same page but it should be Joba’s page.
Is Deborah posting today? I didn’t even notice.
I love the new Lohud IIF. (ignore idiot feature)
Only a lefty cf makes that play…..Where’s Tricia, si she can chase this Deborah person away
Throw strikes, Joba!
I’ll say this last thing. You CANNOT deny that this game was absolutely HORRIBLY managed. These plays are KILLING me. Joe Girardi and his boneheaded have cost us games. He can’t continue on this way.
But NOTHING can ruin my mood because my favorite player Melky is getting it done
womp womp womp wommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmp
These 2-out RBI hits are brutal.
Happens every time
Redsox just got a gift foul ball call that was fair after Bay misplayed it.. then blalock K’s the next pitch.. then Cruz hammers a triple off the wall.. It should be 5-3!
Ugh.
WTH these balls finding holes.
Ugh.
This stinks. That wasn’t hit well at all.
And Cano hasn’t been in the right fielding position at all this inning.
1 team gets hits when it counts the other does not.
the yanks have not done jack with RISP except to tex yesterday…Zippo……….
Ofcourse a hit to another scrub…off the fastball. His fastball location was just horrible this inning. Girardi is waiting to long to bring in Aceves. He needs to get Joba out of there…
No excuse for it. None. That’s .250-batting Gabe effing Gross, and you give up a 2 run, seeing-eye single because you got behind in the count. There’s is literally no excuse for that.
Rays hit with RISP… The Yanks don’t! Simple as that!!.. Frustrating team.. Joba walks and loses composure.
Was it Aceves throwing in the pen?
With this team, a 2-run deficit is nothing, just have to keep it here.
Sorry but this has to be Joba’s last inning. Bring in Robertson or Aceves.
Ball found a hole, unlucky. But the pitch was up and out over the plate.
GET ME PORCELLO’S STATS!!!!111!!!!! Just kidding. Come on Joba. 1 more out. He doesn’t have his best stuff today, but he would have more run support if we could have brought them in last inning.
That’s on Joba for walking Joyce.
Girardi needs to bring in Aceves….He is going too long with him..
gabe gross is getting big hits but do our mllionaire dolaar boys!!!!!!!
miserable series…
30 pitch inning. Yuck.
Jobber in the bullpen.
one of those innings for joba..a ball hit a foot one way or another and it could be an enitirely different game…that goes for almost outs and actual outs…
hughes gonna pitch today?
2/3 of the Rays hitters are hitting in the .200′s.. but they are hitting when it counts as the Yanks don’t.. This is why i’m not convinced about this team.. This has happened year after year with RISP..
That just sucked
it is all about hits when guys are on base. the rest is BS…
the yanks have not done it the last 2 days and there you go…….
The Rays lost their fear of the Yankees and Boston 3 years ago and haven’t let up.
Ok, so all we have so far is the dreaded ‘quality start’ from Joba. We can score more than 3 runs and win this game!
That is my PPOD.
You keep walking mediocre hitters you end up paying for it. That’s show biz. Gotta get into that bullpen.
Didn’t Joe Nelson shut us down last time?
the bottom of the rays order has killed us the last 2 games..
making the plays, not real complicated…
get cracking bats. Rally caps on
You knew this would happened after the Yanks messed up the bottom of the 5th inning. Joba needs to do a better job in that situation. A walk and then a hit to a garbage lineup. You need to get out pathetic Gross in that spot. Falling behind in the count to a scrub and then giving up a hit..Just pathetic..
“Rays hit with RISP… The Yanks don’t! Simple as that!!.. Frustrating team.. Joba walks and loses composure.”
Rays are batting .280 w/ RISP, we’re batting .279
http://www.baseball-reference......2009#bases
being down by 2 with 4 innings left is nothing against this pen…this game is totally winnable
Didn’t Joe Nelson shut us down last time?
no that was Ozzie Nelson.
Joba’s problem today can be summed up in two words:
Ball one.
A-Rod is off his game.
Roy Halladay is amazing. CG shutout- 10th win of the season. What a man.
They need to smack around this scrub Nelson like they should. Arod swings 2-0?? What happened to the patience with this lineup. Tex swings at ball 4 then Arod swings 2-0. Just horrible at bats.
That’s good baseball there by the “I” in this TEAM.
2-0 count and weak pop to right by a guy who makes $30 million.
This guy Nelson has nothing. If we’re patient, he’ll walk us or give us good pitches to hit.
Nick in SF, Lakers opened at – 5 for game 2….It jumped to -6 1/2….Going to Staples later , I have them at -5….Magic will win one in Orlando….
Halladay threw a CG shutout on 97 pitches. 73 strikes.
Nuts.
Does Jeter bunt on his own?
Cano is ICE cold.
We ain’t winning this one.
ATTENTION YANKEE BATTERS: NOW PITCHING: JOE NELSON!
They need to swing at strikes and be patient…Plain and simple. They don’t always do that. 2 easy outs for a garbage pitcher.
It’s as predictable as the swallows to Capistrano – the whiners have returned.
Forget Greinke. Halladay is the best pitcher in the AL. Amazing.
Joba’s thoughts: “Damn now I got to hear Diet Coke trying to stick me in the BP tomorrow”
This entire staff gives up too many walks and pitches in too many bad counts to bad hitters. That gets you beat everytime.
Can’t walk a .214 guy EVER in that situation.
Since the bullpen stinks, they didnt pull him and Gross beats him a hit because Joba fell behind him again.
Bad bullpen and starters who walk bad hitters is usually not a winning combination.
Quick inning from Yankee killer Joe Nelson.
Carl
is a spoiled rotten tool too lol.
Cano has completely resorted to his old ways and is swinging at some horrible pitches. His discipline at the plate is gone and he will swing at lots of pitches inside and off the plate. Not good.
“ATTENTION YANKEE BATTERS: NOW PITCHING: JOE NELSON!”
They think it’s Jeff.
even the fake SJ44 has returned….
Nice to see them working the count against a guy who walks anything the moves and has an ERA of almost 6.
This game has been some very, VERY bad baseball from the Yankees.
It seems every game the Yanks have to come from behind.. Is that a recipe for a champioship team? Sooner or later they got to start getting ahead and keeping leads cause these come-from-behind wins will run out eventually.
“Cano has completely resorted to his old ways and is swinging at some horrible pitches. His discipline at the plate is gone and he will swing at lots of pitches inside and off the plate. Not good.”
Dude that’s actually the first time he’s K’d in awhile.
It’s gonna be a long summer if they can’t beat an injury-riddled Rays team.
Pat M: you know what they say, bet favorites early, dogs late.
Good luck. Have fun at the game.
I would be curious how many of these naysayers are the same people.
This offense is pitiful in the middle innings. We cannot keep living on the edge, not with our bullpen.
GGBG June 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Carl
is a spoiled rotten tool too lol.
I’m a tool because I said we won’t win this one? Did you see who just went 1-2-3 with A-Rod Cano and Posada up to bat?
So, are they maybe saving Youuuse for tomorrow?
Cano is REALLY bothering me recently. His at bats are just pathetic. He swings at anything in sight and when he does take pitches it is almost like after 5 pitches he gives up and has to swing at garbage. Girardi needs to tell him swing at strikes or you are not playing. It is a joke already…
Will Hughes ever toe the rubber again?
Why not today?
Carl
You’re a tool because you say “we’re losing this game” in the 6th inning after witnessing everything this team has done all year.
Except of course if you have not been watching all year. Then you’re not a tool – you’d just be ignorant.
Aceves’ control looks suspect.
When does Hughes get a chance to pitch?
All whiners out there –
Save your kvetching till after the game. The Yanks are still in it. Just because they’re down by 2 in the 6th – they could stilll win!!
I’m not saying Joba should be in the pen but let’s not annoint him the next best thing quite yet. After Melky saves him in the field, he can’t walk the bases loaded and then give up the base hit. He has to come back and strand those runners.
hit the cut off !
Swish has a noodle arm!!
bounced too early.
Hungry Man Swisher has a terrible arm.
Cue DEBORAH
FREAKING SWISHER SHOULDA BEEN ABLE TO THROW THAT HIM OUT. WHAT A LAME THROW HE MADE!
It makes me cringe watching Swish and Damon just airmail the ball.
Swisher should have tossed it to Melky and let him throw… lol
Yanks win this one 6-4 on a Posada HR…
RS, I literally don’t know where it’s going to go.
The 2008 Yankees have returned
No clutch hitting, offense comes and goes, walks galore,
Only difference is that team had a bullpen, this team doesn’t.
GGBG
Do you know what are record is against Boston and Tampa? Probably not.
RS
Running full speed away from 1st that is a very long and very hard throw to make. Even guys with great arms would have trouble with that throw.
“Yanks win this one 6-4 on a Posada HR…”
Thanks for jinxing us.
Same old same old… offense decides when it wants to show up.
That hot streak masked ALOT of our flaws
DT, That’s exactly what I thought…Melky was moving that way, and had plenty of room to see the flip off from Swisher….
Oh look Jorge threw the runner out.
Nice
2 wins vs. TB and BOS.
Horrendous.
someone missed a sign there… probably a hit and run
Carl
I watch almost every game. Yeah, in April they beat us. No ARod, Tex was a mess. CC was a mess. Wang was…well..wang. Bullpen was a mess.
This is not the same team and your comments show that you clearly cannot make that distinction which makes you either a tool or ignorant.
Which is it?
Brandon.. “I not the manager either”
June 7th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
“Cano has completely resorted to his old ways and is swinging at some horrible pitches. His discipline at the plate is gone and he will swing at lots of pitches inside and off the plate. Not good.”
Dude that’s actually the first time he’s K’d in awhile.
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Brandon, it’s not the K’s I’m talking about. Watch the whole at bat not just the end results. He’s swinging at anything and mostly pitches in off the plate especially with runners on base.
GO AWAY ! Carl Crawford !
We’re slumping, Tampa is red hot
Wouldn’t shock me at all if we’re back in 3rd place soon. Yankees can’t handle prosperity at all. Just when it looked like we were poised to pull away, they stop playing fundamental baseball. Error in 5 straight games. no clutch hitting, pitching gives up key runs etc.
Brandon…
No jinx…You can congratulate me later.
GGBG June 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Cue DEBORAH
FREAKING SWISHER SHOULDA BEEN ABLE TO THROW THAT HIM OUT. WHAT A LAME THROW HE MADE!
******
You forgot I WOULD have RATHER see Brent out there. I DON’T LIKE him, but he WOULD have THROWN him OUT!
Aceves!
I’m worried about Hughes. If he doesn’t get into a game today or tomorrow, he might make his first ever relief appearence at Fenway Park on 7-8 days rest. That’s not exactly setting him up for success.
“Brandon, it’s not the K’s I’m talking about. Watch the whole at bat not just the end results. He’s swinging at anything and mostly pitches in off the plate especially with runners on base.”
In the last one yes, the 2 before that, nope.
yawn….why do so many non-yankee fans post here…you can not be a yankee fan while constantly putting them down, its not possible..
We had a great month, and had one bad game and everyone crawls out of their holes. Unreal. Get a grip! This team wasn’t going to play .800 ball for the entire season.
GGBG
June 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RS
Running full speed away from 1st that is a very long and very hard throw to make. Even guys with great arms would have trouble with that throw.
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Only chance at a dbl play there is if swish flipped to Melky after the catch, Melky would have nailed him.
GGBG June 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Cue DEBORAH
FREAKING SWISHER SHOULDA BEEN ABLE TO THROW THAT HIM OUT. WHAT A LAME THROW HE MADE!
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LOL
Someone seriously needs to contact Bellevue Hospital and have her computer privileges taken away.
“No jinx…You can congratulate me later.”
If not, can my foot congratulate you ?
GGBG June 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Cue DEBORAH
FREAKING SWISHER SHOULDA BEEN ABLE TO THROW THAT HIM OUT. WHAT A LAME THROW HE MADE!
******
You forgot I WOULD have RATHER see Brent out there. I DON’T LIKE him, but he WOULD have THROWN him OUT!
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I HATE Gardner, but at LEAST Melky IS my FAVORITE Yankee. SWISHER is GARBAGE and should be OFF the ROSTER!
Girardi SUCKS and makes HORRIBLE decisions and has a TERRIBLE haircut. FIRE him.
The offense needs to show they can hit a good pitcher or a pitcher with his good stuff. They have yet to hit a good pitcher this season. Scoring 7 runs against garbage Orioles pitching is nice all but they need to do it against a good pitcher. They swing at bad pitches and just aren’t patient enough. It is always a home run and then they can’t put anything else together. They had their chance in the 5th but ofcourse they didn’t show patience and also can’t get the big hit. They need to wake up before the 9th inning.
To read these comments you’d thing no team ever came back from 3-1 down in the 7th inning before.
Did you all sleep through May? Hell, did you sleep through Joba’s last start when we scored 4 in the 7th? Seriously, you’re all a disgrace.
if we can just get bruney back pitching well.
ace,robertson,hughes should do well leading to the 8th inning.
The “automatic outs” are coming up.
If so…you know where you can put your foot.
Down 2 run with 3 innings left…
Has any team in history overcome such massive odds?
This isn’t the same team but they are playing like it. I watch every game myself. This isn’t Baltimore, Texas, Detroit. I would love to see them come back, I just don’t see any life in this team up to this point.
YankeeRay
Yeah, that would have been the only way they get him there.
“Only chance at a dbl play there is if swish flipped to Melky after the catch, Melky would have nailed him.”
I wonder. If that play is made – do both outfielders get an assist? Is it a 9-9-8-3 double play?
Hopefully they can work the count. Especially Swisher.
Ball 4.
Hideki Matsui never knows when a 3-1 count is to his advantage.
Matsui pulls ANOTHER outside pitch.
Channeling my inner DEBORAH there.
A.) That 3-0 pitch wasn’t a strike. At all. It was up around his elbows.
B.) The 3-1 pitch WAS, and Matsui popped it up.
We are getting very few breaks this game, and wasting the ones we DO get.
Swisher has a BA below .280 and yet has an OBP close to .400.
Matsui should take lessons.
Can we maybe get someone on base??
Rays are gonna take 2 out of 3
Running out of outs.
Joe Nelson has been Dennis Eckersley so far for the Rays.
Ralphie D,
It’s one thing to have a positive outlook but it’s another thing to wear blinders. This team has some problems and if they don’t figure out how to solve them, they may not make it to the postseason. We can be positive all day long – right up until the time they finish 3rd and out of the postseason again. The Yankees HAVE to beat the Rays and Sox. If they don’t figure out how to do it, they’ll be on the outside looking in.
I’m as big a Yankee fan as anyone but you have to be able to see the forest for the trees.
One other thing: I can’t remember the last game where Girardi’s managerial skills have not been called into question. Again in this game, Jeter bunting? How big are those potential two runs now?
Big Papi just tried to….steal????
Easy 1-2-3 for Cy Nelson.
the tremendous yankee offensive
Yuck at least we got our top half of our lineup coming up.
Time for the Rays to bring in their lights out closer.
Who is it again?
Randy Choate.
I think Jeter was bunting on his own…
6 up…6 down against a guy with an era near 6. and 6 easy outs.
I wish I could trade Matsui, srsly, I know he’s a power bat but how pitiful are those type of ABs 3-0 , 3-1 he swings for the fence on ball 4, 5, 6, 7, 8…what’s going on w/ him this year !
Ok, can someone explain why Phil Hughes is not in the game? This is sooooo stupid – he hasn’t pitched in a week.
Hey Brandon…
Why don’t you head up to Fenway…your team is down by 2.
Matsui is a shell of his former self. Still got some pop. but his OBP is in the tank so is his BA.
He won’t be back next year.
Don’t worry, Yankees will rally to tie it, especially if it’s Choate.
Does Lohud take ads from anyone? First the half naked strippers, now half naked people that shouldn’t be.
“Ok, can someone explain why Phil Hughes is not in the game? This is sooooo stupid – he hasn’t pitched in a week.”
I’m guessing in case Andy’s back flares up.
Matsui has been utterly predictable lately. His bat speed is down, as is his plate discipline. The injury not withstanding, he’s become more of a liability than an asset.
“Hey Brandon…
Why don’t you head up to Fenway…your team is down by 2.”
Dude have you seen Matsui’s ABs lately, tell me 3-0 or 3-1 he doesn’t do that.
Not that it is good for Phil’s personal development, but they may be waiting to use Hughes tomorow if Andy goes short again. Also, they may be trying to hold back on him if he is needed heavily in Fenway. Especially when Wang is pitching. Wang has always struggled the most against Boston hitters. Is he still on an 80ish pitch limit or could he throw 100+ now?
Just a hunch –
Yanks will score 2 runs in the 8th. (since Joba is the king of no-decisions)
Girardi will be faced with the choice of bringing in Mo with a 3-3 tie in the 9th.
Matsui will be gone and they’ll sign Holliday or Jason Bay to replace him.
Sorry Brandon, who would trade for Matsui? a washed up DH is not trade bait.
HELLO!!! My name is DEBORAH.
I think that if I USE random words in CAPITALS it will make me look SMART! I am a REAL yankee fan after all!
PEASANTS! the LOT of YOU!
I am a YANKEE fan, but I HATE this team! They SUCK!
I can’t blame this game on Joba – the offense just has done absolutely nothing. The Yankees SP generally have not outpitched either Boston or Tampa’s starters – that’s a problem given how great our staff was supposed to be. It’s nice that the Yankees beat up on ordinary teams, but if they don’t come back in this one, they will be 2-10 against their main rivals. That’s pretty sad – we’re talking swings of two games everytime they lose one of these. I’m not giving up on the game because the Yankees never give up, but it’s just not a good sign that they are close to going 0-5 I believe at home against the Rays…….with a weakened lineup to boot.
Because they may need to use him to start in Andy’s place, Betsy.
Big picture and all.
“HELLO!!! My name is DEBORAH.
I think that if I USE random words in CAPITALS it will make me look SMART! I am a REAL yankee fan after all!
PEASANTS! the LOT of YOU!
I am a YANKEE fan, but I HATE this team! They SUCK!”
This is gold.
2-10 vs. TB and BOS
Great message they are sending. They can beat up on the pretenders but can’t beat the two best teams in their division.
So much for being the best team in baseball.
“Sorry Brandon, who would trade for Matsui? a washed up DH is not trade bait.”
Hence I wish, I know we can’t.
Everyday Freddie is dealing.
Maria, that really sucks if that’s the case – that is a lousy way to treat any pitcher other than the mediocre long men of the world. Ugh – I’m very, very annoyed right now. The Yankees just have NO clue what they are doing with Phil……disgraceful.
And another game where the offense does absolutely nothing early. You ain’t rallying against good teams.
One other thing: I can’t remember the last game where Girardi’s managerial skills have not been called into question. Again in this game, Jeter bunting? How big are those potential two runs now?
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Why do people assume Jeter’s bunt attempts are called from the bench?
Does ANYONE realize that those FIVE LOSSES against Boston came in APRIL! When we were WITHOUT Alex.
Channeling my inner DEBORAH.
“Maria, that really sucks if that’s the case – that is a lousy way to treat any pitcher other than the mediocre long men of the world. Ugh – I’m very, very annoyed right now. The Yankees just have NO clue what they are doing with Phil……disgraceful.”
He could have asked to go down to AAA and start. He chose to go to the bullpen instead.
Everyday Freddie is nasty.
Aceves!!
Many have already put this game in the loss column.
It’s amazing.
If I said the Red Sox lost 2 of 3 to the Rangers this weekend – those same people would tell me the Sox game isn’t over yet.
What choice do they have, Betsy?
In another topic, Aceves is a god-send. He’s the 2009 version of Ramiro Mendoza.
That was hilarious, he rocks them to sleep.
Angel, I don’t buy that excuse. It’s always something with the Yankees – if Andy can’t go, then scratch him. Holding Phil back in case Andy can’t go or Wang craps out in Boston is lunacy – this kid needs to pitch consistently. It’s unbelievable that he is not in this game.
Aceves:
Wild but effective!
“Hence I wish, I know we can’t.”
Oh sorry! misunderstood/misread/misremembered!
The Freddie changeup has been nasty.
No more Nelson time to smash Balfour!
Grant Ball Four is in.
Angel, who says Andy can’t go? If he is in such iffy shape, DL the guy no matter what he says. If Phil isn’t going to pitch, he should not be up here. He shouldn’t be anyone’s security blanket at this point. It’s always one thing or another – he can’t pitch because maybe Andy can’t (I haven’t read anything that says he can’t go next out) or he can’t pitch in case Wang sucks. Exactly when can Phil pitch?
Come on Yanks!
Oh, and Joe bunting Jeter is absolutely ridiculously anal…….pathetic.
How can anyone count this team out the way they have played this year? Jeez, haven’t you been watching this year? One walk, and a Stadium special home run and this game is tied.
2-9 vs Boston and Tampa – many of those games with Teixiera in a funk and ARod in rehab.
Maybe we’re not as good as we thought
They say you are never as good as you look when you are hot and never as bad as you look when you’re cold.
Maybe this is what we are. A team with a lot of fight but an inconsistent offense, OK starting pitching, and a horrendous bullpen.
Considering how down the rest of the AL is, maybe we are not the great team we thought we were.
I can’t buy that Jeter was on his own with the bunt. And even if he was, why wouldn’t Girardi tell Jeter NOT to bunt after he saw him attempt it at the beginning of the AB. That was absolutely not the time to bunt. With Ramiro Pena up, perhaps, – but not with Derek Jeter up. Why give away the out?
Even if the game is tied, what good does that do? That means MO comes in again against a team that owns him… or Coke/Robertson/Tomko/Veras.
Considering we were tied in the 9th against the Rays in all 3 games against them this year at home, and lost all 3, does not inspire confidence.
Aceves was a good find. Time to scour the Mexican League for bullpen help.
Mrs. Kleich
ALL of those games (except these two vs. the Rays) were with no ARod and virtually no Tex.
The bridge jumpers have to get it out of their system whenever they can. This team is too good for them to give them many opportuntities.
5 outs to go.. and a weak 4 hits to show for this game… 2-10 against the rivals isn’t a good sign for the Yanks.. Remember i’m a realist, not a hater!!
We’re being rocked to sleep here.
Dave, Jetes couldn’t hit Garza it’s that simple, we choked that inning
If he moves them over, you can take the lead with an out. If he grounds into a dbl play (which he did minus the good slide) you people kill Girardi for not bunting.
Because it is Jeter can he can do what he wants.
Why would Jeter swing at a 2-0 pitch? Maybe Balfour would have walked him. He should at least take a pitch in that spot.
Oh well. Let’s go Tex!
Why would Jeter swing at a 2-0 pitch? Maybe Balfour would have walked him. He should at least take a pitch in that spot.
Oh well. Let’s go Tex!
Damon with a single. Aside from the usual noodle arm he’s been very good this year.
a blast from Tex would be nice right now
The difference in TB, BOS, and NYY right now is what we saw in the bottom of the 5th and top of the 6th. NYY has 2 on, 0 outs, and get nothing. Jeter and Damon had horrible ABs in this situation.
TB has 2 on and 1 out in the 6th and got 2 runs while knocking Joba out of the game.
That is the difference. Until we can stop trying to hit every ball out of the park, we will only be fighting for the wild card.
Vince
The bullpen is not nearly as bad as it’s made out to be. Don’t let April and the media fool you. Check the stats yourself.
We’re 2-10 against our division rivals
The only game where he out pitched them was the Burnett/Garza game.
Other than they, they have had their way with us. We just cannot hit their pitching. And the one day we did (Beckett) Burnett and the pen imploded.
We just can’t ply a complete game against our rivals.
Teixeira looks like he is ready to break into a flamenco-style song and dance when he stands at the plate.
Betsy, I agree it may not be the way to properly handle Hughes, but I think the Yankees are hoping they don’t have to use him with Andy tomorrow. However, even though they are expecting Wang to come back strong eventually, he was rushed up to the major league level which is a mistake they can’t take back and it is likely he is going to struggle before he gets 2 or 3 starts under his belt and gets more comfortable and confident as a starting pitcher again. Unfortunately, with the lack of a bullpen, Hughes’ is the best option besides Aceves to keep up here as a long man to bail Wang out if necessary. I strongly believe Wang will return to his 19 game winning form, but it will take time for him to develop a bit more arm strength and confidence as a starting pitcher again. I think it is worth the wait though.
Its not an excuse, Betsy.
Just because they haven’t outlined and put up a bulletin board the plan for him, doesn’t mean they dont have one either. I don’t think they handled Wang well at all, but I’ll reserve judgment until Andy makes his start and Phil still hasn’t been used.
Personally, I think he should have gone down, rather than putting him in the bullpen, so he could pitch consistently. But he also wanted to be in the bullpen so he has to be aware that he’s not going to be used like a starter either.
Tex is so clutch.
I <3 Tex.
Come on Alex!!!!!!!!!!
Tex hit it too hard to be a double. JUUUST missed lifting it enough to get it out. That ball was SMOKED.
COME ON AROD! DO SOMETHING GOOD HERE!
here comes the double play
dam tex why did you have to hit it so hard
Al, OBP % please.
Lets go Alex!
Let’s go Lightning Rod.
That is fine also
Now here it is, Arod with a runner on 1st – classic dp set up for him. I am rooting for the hit but expecting the dp. It’s just what he does.
That’s another tough break. That had the distance to be a double, but he hit it WAY too hard.
If A-Rod GIDP’s, I am going to lose my mind, seriously.
Thanks Tex! Come on Arod no DP no DP.
Please Alex, we need this one.
What is a-rods stats in late inning situations
C’mon A-Rod.
Please get a HR, Arod. We need a lead, not just a tie game.
Ollie
More to your point, in April that was the case. This is not the same team and you thinking it is shows how little you actually see.
Arod needs to go the other way
The ice-cold Cano on deck. Come on A-Rod.
this is to mess w/ Al’s head.
Buck
Don’t have them offhand but from what I remember, they’re not too good.
Come on Arod. I’ll take anything, but a DP. No need to swing for the fences.
He has such a freaking long swing!
Missed that pitch.
Just in watching him over the time he has been here, A-Rod really swings right through a lot of fastballs right down the pipe.
I dont know, I’m just basing that thought on the shakiness of Andy’s last two starts – he clearly hasn’t been 100%. Wang also hasn’t built up arm strength yet either, which was clear last time. So it would make a little sense to save him for those two starts.
Prove me wrong Cano
All right ARod. We’ll take it.
Pass the baton.
The baton gets passed to the ice-cold Cano.
that’s what I’m talking about
Cano hits one into the gap here.
A-rod is no pujols
robbie please…please robbie please!
Let’s go Cano!
Come on Robi! Now is the best time to break out of your little slump!
How ever it turns out… the Yanks like to make things exciting!
Please Cano, no DP!
Please, Robbie, for the love of CHRIST, do not screw this up.
Robi shut these people up about your bad ABs
please PLEASE please PLEASE get something FROM
Biggest AB of the game thus far here. Hopefully Cano doesn’t have an anxious AB.
Cano is horrible with the bases loaded, but today may be his day. I’ve got my fingers crossed.
Not nearly as ironic as Homer Bailey. Josh Outman at the other end of the spectrum.
We’ve played 7 games against TB, and I think all of those games, except the 15-2 blowout that Swish pitched in, have been decided in the 8th inning or later.
Cano is the bigger threat for the double play. He’s got to be patient here.
*FROM this
I need to hear enter sandman today
Here it is – another golden opportunity. Let’s see if Cano can wait for his pitch and get this game tied. It’s coming through in situations like this that separate the pretenders from the contenders.
first pitch GIDP
The only complaint I have is why Cano is above Posada in the order, considering he has been at the Mendoza line for the past week.
Eeesh, Cano is almost a guarantee for a DP. Crossing my fingers that I am wrong though.
Lets go, Robbie.
Confidence builder right here
“UPDATE, 4:03 p.m.: Ball four from Balfour. He’s out of the game. Based loaded and one out for Robbie Cano. He’ll face lefty J.P. Howell, the son of Thurston and Lovey Howell.”
don’t be so sure about the Howell kid. They was a lot of hanky panky on that island.
Patience Robi. PLEASE.
Come on buddy!
I’m not saying they don’t have a plan, Angel, but Phil needs to pitch – it’s not doing him any good to be sitting around, waiting for something bad to happen. Maria, Phil shouldn’t be the long man – they are screwing with his development. If he doesn’t pitch tomorrow in Andy’s game, he’s going to likely have to wait until Wang’s game (unless AJ collapses early) – that’s a long time for him to not pitch.
Big Pitch here
Patience from Cano!
take a walk
Come on throw it wide, so he can’t swing!
howell’s looking to induce a grounder this entire at bat
and cano looks like he really wants to swing
Please just take a walk here. Put the pressure on the pitcher.
Don’t get greedy, Robbie.
PLEASE DON’T SWING AT BALL 4!!!!
Who put Veras and Coke in a Tampa uniform?
good job robbie!!
CLUTCH WALK
awesome eyes, sir cano.
Thanks Robi!
Don’t you know, Robbie Cano! Nice.
Pass the baton
good AB Robi !, Georgy do not mess this up !
How bad a pitcher are you to walk Cano with the bases loaded? LOL!
Omg, we can’t screw this up now, can we? Would love to take the lead here, but at least tie the game up.
There we go – now a Posada HR – didn’t someone call that earlier on?
Yeah!!!
Great AB by Robbie. He’s had trouble with the bases loaded, and to take a walk in this situation really speaks to his maturing as a hitter.
Boots it!
Cueing up my Hives CD:
HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO!
Thank you Aybar
THANK YOU WILLY AYBAR!
I killed robbie to walk. He hated it.
Posada is up. Put all the runners in motion! Triple Steal
so why is he batting RH ! OMG did that just happen Geor..erroe !
YEEEEAAAHHHH
thank god no longoria
Lucky! I’ll take it!
We’ll take it!
Aybar looking like Aybar in the WBC
Thank you, Error God!
CREDIT TO AYBAR FOR BAILING POSADA OUT!
Chevy Player of the Game: Willy Aybar
Finally, a break goes our way.
Get another 2 runs, maybe more, and close this mother out.
Maybe that’s the break we need! A sure DP but no – everyone is safe, tie game and still only one out. Need a break it open hit now.
the ghosts have traveled over here for sure
Almost a dp, whew lucky!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
OH YEAH!
Bad knees, big hustle!
GGBG was right. I was wrong.
LOOK AT THOSE WHEELS…HE PUT GARDY TO SHAME lol
What a lucky break! And the Yankees take the lead!!
That’s karma for the 10 hopper that scored 2 runs in the 5th.
Matsui hustling! Terrible AB, but credit for the hustle.
OL’ CREAKY KNEES GOJIRA WITH THE CHOP!!!!!!!!!!
Matsui – wow…he’s got wheels.
I rest my case. You can not count this team out.
oh Matsui
GRITTY GUTTY HIDEKI MATSUI
ENTER SANDMAN
Thank god for the blinding speed of Matsui
God bless you, Hideki Matsui. As bad as he’s looked at times running, he BUSTED IT down the line that time.
Matsui knew he couldn’t let that DP happen.
Who didn’t see that bag of bones Matsui grounding into a DP. Got really lucky with that.
That can’t be good for the Godzilla’s knees. But we’ll take it.
Cano steal home
swish hits one out here
Say what you want about Matsui, but you can’t deny the guy’s 100% effort.
Dude is getting squeeeezed
Where did all the 2-10 against Tampa and Boston whiners go?
Come on Melkman! Give Mo some breathing room (I can’t believe I’m saying that).
This is just unbelievable! I love this teams heart. We never give up!
Melky in another close and late spot. He’s hitting nearly .500 in these situations.
Time for the Melkman to deliver again.
LOL
Walks!
Low and away.
Every first pitch.
So much for Matsui being a ghost, lol.
Ran fast enough to beat that out.
LMAO AT THE TOOLS WHO COUNTED THIS TEAM OUT!
BWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!
Tampa going nowhere this year.
they are so lucky
the guy cant throw strikes and Posada and Matsui come up hacking on the first pitch
Bull!
Come on Mo!
bull$hit
what kind of call was that !
Are you serious on that strikeout?
Didn’t look like he went.
Time for Mo.
Second day in a row we get called out on a questionable check swing.
Didn’t look like he went there. Ah well. Mo redemption time.
Multi-millionaires got lucky in this inning. If it wasn’t for the sloppy ray’s defense, they would have choked as usual.
Great inning.
Now time to close this thing out!
just need 3 outs from Mo
I miss NYC! I want to move back!
i want to see the overhead on that but LETS GO MO!!!!
No so sure he swung there. Very questionable call. Maybe a replay will indicate that he did swing but from here in my living room – not so much.
Now its a save situation for mo…
“Multi-millionaires got lucky in this inning. If it wasn’t for the sloppy ray’s defense, they would have choked as usual.”
I thought all the whiners had crawled back into their holes.
He didn’t go.
Was that a srike?
“Multi-millionaires got lucky in this inning. If it wasn’t for the sloppy ray’s defense, they would have choked as usual.”
sorry buddy…go enjoy the cry you take in the corner
If there was ever a perfect time for Mo Rivera to redeem himself, it would be now.. COME ON MO!!!
dont forget they got longoria to pinch hit
Player of the game shoulda been Willy Aybar.
Johan Halladay
June 7th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Multi-millionaires got lucky in this inning. If it wasn’t for the sloppy ray’s defense, they would have choked as usual.
stop hating hallady, dont be mad bc your the only pitcher on your team that can win a game.
The best part of this board is the way it goes from: The Yankees are horrible. Tampa and Boston are so obviously superior. to: Tampa going nowhere this year.
Yes, it was lucky, that they didn’t help the pitcher out (who couldn’t throw a strike) by expanding the zone and swinging at balls.
Mo should do well here. It’s not a tie game.
“Multi-millionaires got lucky in this inning. If it wasn’t for the sloppy ray’s defense, they would have choked as usual”
I would punch you out if I didn’t have to wipe my a.. w/ this 100 dollar bill.
As long as Girardi doesnt Int.Walk anyone we will win..
OMG I love THIS team, MELKY is SO hot, I’ve ALWAYS said that I had FAITH in THEM.
You NEGATIVE peasants should be ASHAMED of yourselves.
GIRARDI is the BEST manager in BASEBALL!
/DEBORAH
Would love to see Mo throw a 1-2-3 inning against the bottom of the Rays lineup. I’m sure Longoria will be pinch-hitting at some point.
Btw, Sox down 3 runs in the ninth inning
“I miss NYC! I want to move back!”
So do I. And I will once I hit Mega Millions.
“Multi-millionaires got lucky in this inning. If it wasn’t for the sloppy ray’s defense, they would have choked as usual.”
Why don’t you go choke on a piece of popcorn?
I think Aybar deserves the victory pie if the Yanks hold on.
Johan Halladay
Apparently you never heard that you make your own luck…or that the harder you work, the luckier you get.
This team never quits, even if some “fans” do.
Mo is 10000000000000% nastier in a save situation.
Yeah Mo!!!!
This is baseball right here. Mo and Longoria.
I want Mo to strike him out more than anything.
Hey giradi, walk longoria.
OMG PLEASE INTENTIONALLY WALK LONGORIA!!
0-2.
LETS GO MO
i’m kidding btw
one strike away
Hey Giradi, are you watching?
He is not messing around this time
Thanks, Mo!
YAY!!!
No, I’m not worried about Mo!!!!
game.
blouses.
Longoria needs a Segway to get to 1st nowadays.
Big smile on my face right now. Watching Mo succeed just makes you feel good.
Yup, Mo looks done.
Yankees win! Theeeee Yankees win!
That’s the Mo we all know and love!
And wow, roughly 2/3 of this team’s wins are the come-from-behind variety.
6 games up on Tampa in the loss column. Boston 3 outs away from 2nd place.
credit Georgy, Mo wanted FB outside and he jammed Evan inside.
Mo and the Yanks make the OPPC proud.
The Yanks are 2-10 vs. the Red Sox and Rays.
ooops…. make that 3-9. I got confused by all the whiners.
Mo retiring longoria makes giradi look like a buffoon for not pitching to longoria yesterday.
Great job by Mo – he looked very good.
Nice win, but boy was that ugly…….
Let’s hope this win gets them going as they play this team again and then battle Boston. They need some big MO – both of them.
Longoria can’t run for spit. What are the Rays doing putting him out there if he’s in that bad of shape?
And the trolls head for the exit holes!!
Wow great job MLB.tv cutting off the interview.
Great win and a lucky win for us!
Great win and a lucky win for us!
Rangers up 6-3. Lowell hits into double play. One out away from first place.
Brandon…
No jinx
Good comeback, we need to get them tomorrow. Big time.
There we go, Mo. Much, MUCH better outing. The pitch he used to strike out Gross had potentially the best movement of any pitch he’s thrown all season.
Good win for the guys. Could’ve and should’ve been a much larger score, but a win is a win, and we’re back in first place.
Yeah thanks to the umps we got a win today. It goes both ways, just like yesterday.
“Brandon…
No jinx”
You said 6-4
Boston one out away from 2nd place.
we need to win tomorrow. Andy will pitch better and we will pound sonnanstine.
ortiz strikes out.
red sox lose.
Ortiz strikes out to end the Sox game.
Yanks back in first.
And Ortiz strikes out!
FIRST PLACE!!!!!!
And Ortiz strikes out!
FIRST PLACE!!!!!!
Ortiz K secures the Yankees 1st place.
The Rays gift-wrapped that game for us, but it is a win nonetheless.
“Longoria can’t run for spit. What are the Rays doing putting him out there if he’s in that bad of shape?”
Because he wasn’t in there to run. They put him in there for one reason. To crush the ball.
Sox lose:) Ortiz strikes out.
Sonnanstine has an ERA over 7. The Yankees better not make him look good…
Does anyone think A.J. is going to go over to the rays clubhouse and Pie Aybar….(knock, knock, can wily come out for a second)
Hopefully a decent outing from Andy tomorrow and maybe a little Youuse sprinkled in
I wonder where all the naysayers went to?
Suspicious by their absence.
How can you not love this team? They never, ever quit.
Great win for Aceves. One more and he’s tied with CC for the team lead.
THATS MO LIKE IT!!
Aceves should have a bigger role in the ‘pen.
mo best ever
This win means the Yankees are still undefeated in games which they give up 3 runs or less. This offense is a lot better than we sometimes give it credit for. No 3-2, 2-1 losses all season (there seemed to be a lot of those last year).
20-0 when holding opponents to 3 runs or less.
Pitching is the key indeed.
Some pretty poor logic here. Just because he got Longoria today does not mean Girardi made the wrong call yesterday. You never let the other team’s best player beat you with a base open.
michelle b., I see Nick from SF or DT are rubbing off on you
They’ve faced Sonnestine before, less chance of looking bad than if they’ve not seen him.
So Lowell GIDP, and Ortiz K’d – so, it’s not just our guys who can have problems with the game on the line?
I do agree with Pete, though, Matsui has been brutal. AT this point, I play Gardner instead of Matsui – at least, Gardner can run, and his OBP is better.fd Rotate Damon and Posada, maybe Swish thru DH.
Tom in N.J.
June 7th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Aceves should have a bigger role in the ‘pen.
How many times are going to keep saying this? LOL. He’s pitched in almost every type of scenario this year.
I don’t get all the downplaying of this win. They beat a good team with a good pitcher. Yeah, the Rays helped the Yankees score, but the Yankees aided the Rays too.
Quality start, outstanding middle and a great inning from Mo… try to enjoy it people!
Scrapped that one together, but a nice comeback win.
Mo made a point by getting a hobbled and broken down longoria to ground out?
sorry..
I’m still PO’d at Joe…..
Mo’s Flat Cutter. Ha Ha Ha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6CAeDN9er8
This team can’t beat Tampa and Boston. They are 2-10.
It’s going to be a long year. They will be in 3rd place by July. 5th place by August. 7th place by September.
They are terrible. Mo is finished.
Ooops. Where did all all my other negative pals go?
What?? The Yankees won? Grrrrr.. Crap!
Make room in the sewer for me trolls! Here I come!
O.k. my turn.
“Ortiz eyes a strikeout and the red sox go back to where they belong. First loser.”
your turn.
Mo knew what he was talking about yesterday, *Joe looks*
*stupid. MO KNOWS* !!! The Yankees are digging deep to win
THANK YOU GUYS.
Today was a great win. Win tomorrow and we gain a game on TB.
86, another error again……..5 games with at least one error? That’s not playing good ball……The Rays gave this one away. I hate saying that a team deserves or doesn’t deserve to win – in fact, I never say it. In this case, I think it fits – this was an ugly game.
That was a great win, though I wish joba could have gotten some runs. Francesa will probably argue that this was a bad start for gritty gutsy joba.
Betsy – Joe’s job is to win games, not get Hughes into games.
People complained the same thing about Wang and how he was getting no work… you can’t manufacture innings for him when you always play close games.
Ah, that’s better.
86 – Absolutely. We’ve been on the wrong side of more than enough games like this one in the past. I’ll take it.
Cone was talking, during the top of the 9th, that Mo seemed to have better mechanics – something about coming more over the top, maybe randy can understand it better – If that was a factor yesterday, then I certainly feel better that rumors of Mo’s demise are greatly overstated. Everyone can have simple mechanical problems.
And Tampa is definitely not as golden as last year. They were lucky to hold on yesterday, and their pen blew it today.
I’ll take it.
Tampa must be chewing the leather seats. Both Posada and Matsui grounded into DPs swinging on the first pitch. The Yankees should thank them for the gift. Do nothing for the first seven innings and then screw up royally on your way to a win.
You have Pettitte, AJ (on extra rest), and Wang going the next 3 days.
It’s basically a lock that we see Hughes at some point for an extended period of time. If not, that is great news for us.
Funny how yesterday the Rays and Yankees both smoked the ball in the 9th inning, but today, the go-ahead runs in the 5th and then 8th inning were all on weak grounders.
Hughes is probably being saved as a long man for tomorrow with Pettitte with his recent back problems or Fenway.
Balfour 1.54 ERA last year, now at 6.31 in ’09.
That’s what’s scary about the notion of giving up prospects for a set up guy.
Betsy – Hughes is our long man. Tomko can’t throw more than 40 or so pitches, he isin’t the long man. Aceves has graduated to stressful innings.
Hughes will come in when a starter gets bombed. If anything, you should be angry at Cashman for wanting our prized prospect to be a long man. You can’t blame Joe if Cashman didn’t give him specific instructions. Cashman said Joe can use him whoever he wants him.
I can’t wait till later tonight
What a matchup
Randy The Wolf vs Tony The Basterd
Nelson Cruz had a monster day for Texas. Double, Triple, Homer. That kid is scary.
Padilla wins for Texas. Maybe it’s good he didn’t get suspended.
BTW, more proof that Disuke is a worthless POS pitcher after today.
“I can’t wait till later tonight
What a matchup
Randy The Wolf vs Tony The Basterd”
I forgot Antonio Bastardo was starting tonight. Sweet.
There’s only five teams in the division. Good win for the Yankees. RiverDogs play at 5:05, as Banuelos won last night.
Wait, people are complaining that Hughes isin’t in the game?
lol
And if Andy gets shelled or Wang gets shelled, where do we go? Tomko?
Hughes is insurance for the other starters. Considering we have 2 shaky ones and another on innings limits, it onyl makes sense to hold him back.
Ollie, I’m sorry – you can not keep Phil on the bench for 8 days. Joe said he’d use Phil in close games – here was the perfect opportunity. The kid is wasting away – he’s not growing or developing at all on the bench. I hope fans won’t blame him when he gives up a bunch of runs whenever Joe decides to use him (next week? next month) because of rust. The highest priority with Phil should be developing him – he’s not a mediocre long man. If they can’t or won’t use him, then he should be in AAA.
“I forgot Antonio Bastardo was starting tonight. Sweet.”
Best name in all of baseball.
FYI… Bastardo’s next start after tonight is Friday in Fenway vs. Dice-K.
They did it AGAIN.
This team gives me heart attacks.
Haha, we totally lucked out today. I don’t know what Posada was doing swinging at the first pitch, which should have been an automatic double play. I’ll take the W, though.
I have to laugh at the idiots that have been declaring this game a loss since before the game even started. And them the real whining and pathetic posts started when Tampa scores first. It’s like watching “special ed” kids whining over crayons. Now, you’re already declaring a loss for tomorrow and no less than 2 losses in Boston.
Oh, yeah….The “Boston Super Power” swept their way to another bashing of Texas on their way to opening up a huge gap in the standings.
“Best name in all of baseball.”
No kidding.
Kid’s got good stuff too.
Hey if anyone is interested head on over to 161stStree.wordpress.com for a live blog right now.
Betsy – If this were Melancon he was doing this to, you wouldn’t say a word. Clearly, you are attached to Hughes.
Romine w/ a 3 run HR, his bat is coming.
I’m sorry I meant 161stStreet.wordpress.com
Maybe this Mo guy can help our bullpen
I don’t buy the idea that this was a “lucky” win or that it was a “gift” from Tampa Bay.
The Yankee offense puts constant pressure on the opposition by putting a ton of runners on base and hitting for power and taking a lot of pitches.
On average all of those attributes lead to wins.
Why did Aybar screw that play up? He didn’t do it in a vacuum. He clearly rushed the play because he knew the game was on the line.
Aybar’s error wasn’t simply a random mistake – it was a mistake in execution that was related to the context of the game. A context that the yankee’s offense created.
When JP Howell and Balfour are out on the mound losing the strike zone part of why they are doing so is because 1) they know the yankees are a disciplined team that generally does not expand the zone; 2) they know that the yankees have come back late in games time and time and time again.
That ball that Matsui hit is just baseball. That’s the way it goes – softly hit ball produce runs sometimes.
But they only do so if your team can put men on base and generate a high OBP.
The yankee’s offense is first in baseball in OPS, first in wOBA, first in slugging %, third in BA, and third in OBP.
The Rays’s made mistakes today but the yankee’s offense put the pressure on them that foreced them to make those mistakes and for softly hit balls to turn into runs.
Long season. Good teams have to win games like today’s. No one’s winning 95 games + with everone of those wins being a dominating performance.
But these are the kinds of games that separate 89 win teams and 95-97 win teams.
We won the game, are back in 1st, and people are complaining about who got into the game and who didn’t.
Such miserable fans.
“The Rays gave this one away. I hate saying that a team deserves or doesn’t deserve to win – in fact, I never say it. In this case, I think it fits – this was an ugly game.”
Both teams had 6 hits and 1 error. Garza only lasted 5 innings, and it wasn’t like TB’s go-ahead hit in the 5th was hit any harder than Posada and Matsui’s grounders. There’s no way you can say TB deserved to win…Aybar did make a very crucial error in the 8th inning.
“FYI… Bastardo’s next start after tonight is Friday in Fenway vs. Dice-K.”
Next Saturday vs Boston at Philly. Phils will throw Blanton, Bastardo and Happ vs Boston.
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good, as the 86 Mets learned.
Tampa Bay deserved to lose. They had a shot to make the play they had to to win and they didn’t. Such is baseball.
you need to win games like this when you dribble outs, get walks etc. 0 for 9 today with RISP.. tampa was 1 for 8.
aceves has been huge…
need to get melancon and robertson going…………….
they need to figure out hughes soon, he needs to throw the ball………
R-Tek, Joe said he was going to use Phil in all sorts of situations………Cash never said Phil was just going to be a long man. The kid needs to pitch – I don’t see how anyone can question that. Wow, he’s being saved in case Andy and Wang crap out – terrific. That means that at most he can pitch one day a week (if he pitches in an Andy game, he can’t pitch when Wang starts and vice versa). LOL at Cash saying they wanted to keep this kid stretched out…..There’s just no excuse good enough to explain Phil rotting on the bench.
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61075731e17beb2f/
Anyway, there WAS an inning left.
GB7 – Personally, I think it’s a combination of pre-adolescents, mental midgets, and Boston and Mets trolls. I just ignore them. Life is too short, why get aggravated, especially after a come from behind win?
Yeah Betsy, and if Hughes came in today and gave up 2 runs, other people would be killing Joe for using him in a tight spot right off the bat when this is his first relief appearance, rather than going to Aceves or Robertson. Especially if we came back in the 8th and were trailing by 1 run becaus Hughes gave up runs.
Whatever Joe does, he is going to make someone unhappy.
dice k is terrible. he is a 5 inning pitcher, last years record was pure luck.
When Joba gave up that dribbler of a hit, I felt kind of bad but not really. He did load the bases to get to that point, after all.
GB7 -
Don’t insult special ed kids. Please.
Christmas came early with that gift from the Rays. Nice to see Mo bounce back with a little extra on his pitches today. You get the feeling that Mo paces himself very carefully, and every once in a while digs down for a little extra gas. His cutter had a lot of movement today, more than normal IMHO.
Christmas came early with that gift from the Rays. Nice to see Mo bounce back with a little extra on his pitches today. You get the feeling that Mo paces himself very carefully, and every once in a while digs down for a little extra gas. His cutter had a lot of movement today, more than normal IMHO.
Why must talk about Mariano like he is a baby, or some unproven reliever. Show some respect. What a disgrace she is.
Hughes in the ninth would have been ridiculous. PHIL HUGHES IS A STAHTIN PITCHA’!
Everyday Freddie kinda looks like Sidney Ponson now.
A superpowered Sidney Ponson.
please cut the interview Kim.
I’m not denying it was a “fortunate” win, but it would have been a fortunate win for Tampa too. My point is I’m tired of grousing over wins. I don’t criticize complaining after losses, but when they win (however they win) it would be nice to focus on all the things they DID instead of what they didn’t.
Timo — good point on Balfour, which is wqhy I owuld only make a move for a guy with a proven track record like Huston Street. Although who’s to say that Aceves and/or Robertson can’t be just as effective?
Dice WP is become a $100 mil disaster for the Sox. Too bad that the Yankees will not see this week.
I don’t care if they make 20 errors as long as we win.
aceves is a funny dude
YES Booth Report with Nancy, Kay, and Cone:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6107574969d42488/
meant to say “see him this week”
“Next Saturday vs Boston at Philly. Phils will throw Blanton, Bastardo and Happ vs Boston.”
Man those Sox are lucky. They missed Sabathia in the first two series against the Yankees, missed Halladay twice, missed Verlander AND Jackson in the same series, and now get to miss Hamels.
Told you I could get out Longoria! Das’ it.
Net Income, if you can’t understand why it’s a problem that Phil hasn’t pitched in 8 days…..then, ok.
CB, good points -I never thought about it like that. I never complain about the Yankees getting runs on soft hits because I know that they have often been victims of bad luck (like any team) where their line drives find a glove…….
Betsy – I respectfully disagree. Phil is a starter. So, instead of 4 days, he’s not pitched in 7 or 8 days. That’s not exactly “rotting”. His arm strength hasn’t deteriorated yet.
I don’t think Phil will stay in this “role” for too long (maybe they’re more worried about Andy than they’re letting on), at some point he will go back to Scranton, if for no other reason than he will need to pitch to reach his IP goal for the year.
We won, have a glass of wine, go to dinner. Enjoy it.
Tomorrow is another day.
Ace’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61075882d1f19caa/
Joba’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/610758983627c79f/
So what happened in the game? Was Master Philip developed any more???
Hughes was warming up yesterday and would have come in if there was a 10th inning
Maybe they made him throw an extended BP session or something and was unavailable.
As usual, there is always more to the story than the fans know.
Putting Padilla on waivers really motivated him.
*money talks,and is still the best way to get your message* *across,to a *moody ,non team player*
GO YANKEES, (I can scream that,can’t I?)
If the Yanks didn’t “deserve” this win, who did? Tampa? Did they make the plays to win the game? It’s got nothing to do with “deserve.” A win’s a win. Quit whining. Sometimes you win ugly, sometimes you lose ugly. You want to complain about how hard the balls Posada and Matsui hit in the 9th were? How hard was Luis Gonzalez gw “hit” in game 7 of the 2001 series, off Mo? You put the ball in play, good things can happen.
3 observations from the peanut gallery:
1. Tex seems to be in the middle of all of our late-game rallies.
2. Matsui should change his number to 43.
3. Robinson Cano with a clutch walk! Who knew he had it in him?
Scott, Phil is going to have to pitch sooner or later. The next time he comes in, it’s going to be his first. If Joe is afraid of people complaining, then the Yankees should have taken the easy route and sent Phil down to AAA.
Padilla pitched against the Sox today – sheesh. I’m glad the Sox lost, but man – that bum should have been suspended
There’s no way you use Hughes. I would still trust Mo more with big outs, and guess what? Girardi was right. Mo got it done, and he looked like Mo.
Hughes probably pitches bullpen sessions. He’ll be in the minors when Bruney comes back.
If you are a long man, you don’t get to pitch with regularity. You pitch whenever your number is called. Back to back days or once every 10 days.
The problem to begin with was having Hughes up here as a long man. That falls on Cashman, just like the Wang disaster.
But anyway, let’s enjoy this unlucky win for another day and hope Andy finally shows up tomorrow.
Lol at the Aceves interview. Thanks a lot Pel.
Can we now DFA Veras ?
“please cut the interview Kim”
Excellent English…..
*Pel thanks always man for the audio,nice touch,really*
>Thanks a lot Pel.
you’re welcome.
Hughes was ready to pitch the top of the 10th yesterday, FYI.
Maybe once he was warming up yesterday and he wasn’t needed, they decided to just throw an extended BP session and make him unavailable today or something.
You guys are really underestimating management if you think they are going to let their prized prospect rot on the bench.
Joe from Long Island
June 7th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
GB7 – Personally, I think it’s a combination of pre-adolescents, mental midgets, and Boston and Mets trolls. I just ignore them. Life is too short, why get aggravated, especially after a come from behind win?
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Some are, yes, and a few may be impersonators. but, their are too many regulars that are just as bad. If they aren’t whining about Girardi’s decisions, it Cano’s at bats, or Swisher, or Posada;s game calling, throwing, breathing and everything in between. I won’t mention names…they know who they are and so do most others…unless they’re too busy whining to read the posts. Jesus…they need to quit watching, quit posting…They’ll either end up with a coronary, ulcers or in Belleview.
“Tex seems to be in the middle of all of our late-game rallies.”
His at bats are so impressive. He’s both remarkably disciplined and then selectively aggressive at the same time. Very, very few hitters can do that.
Some guys who generate a very high OBP by being patient are somewhat passive in situations where a run needs to be knocked in. They don’t change their approach much.
Tex does both. He’s selective. But when he gets that pitch he’s been waiting on he explodes on the ball.
Very impressive hitter.
Joe, good point……..Maybe I’ll see things a bit clearer after dinner……..
86, you’re right – and this is the first time I’ve ever said the Yanks didn’t deserve to win. I’m annoyed and maybe that’s clouding my judgment.
Dutch, can’t argue with you…….
RS – the Sox really do get lucky, don’t they? However, I don’t usually spend much time worrying about it. In Toronto, they lost 2/3 despite not facing Halladay.
***impersonators, but, there are***
Show some love for Matsui. He hustled down the line.
“Tex does both. He’s selective. But when he gets that pitch he’s been waiting on he explodes on the ball.”
Some of that goes to Al, they are flipping 2-3 fastballs in his ABs.
Ladies and gentleman, the ghost have returned.
I’m not calling it official until it happens vs. the Sox. But if Melky believes it, so do I.
Did you know RAB did a study and they are actually throwing LESS fastballs to Tex since A-Rod returned?
I think it’s more a matter of good timing. A-Rod came back right when Tex got hot.
Who finishes this season with more wins:
1. Joba
2. Hughes
3. Wang
4. Aceves
Doreen
June 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
GB7 –
Don’t insult special ed kids. Please.
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Yes….that was uncalled for. Those kids don’t deserve to be lumped in with some of these posters. I feel so ashamed.
Hi Everyone. I know I am a little late tot he party, but can I channel my inner DEBORAH too???
So let me see if I understand the people that were complaining about how the Yankees won this one. Now it’s not good enough that they win. They have to win in a manner that suits some morons idea of what a win should look like? A win is a win is a win. They come in all shapes and sizes and the Yankees did enough to win and Tampa Bay did not. End of story.
CB — He seems to be that rare case of a star who is actually better than everyone thought once you get a chance to see him/root for him every day. Everyone said Tex wasn’t clutch. I thought they might be wrong based on a big grand slam he hit against us while with the Angels last year (game that Nady had 6 rbis and we ended up winning). He’s been clutch and more.
Hmmm – you’re right, Matsui did hustle,and that’s great. Give him credit. But the guy is back to his first-year form in the U.S., when he couldn’t handle the two-seamer and just hit ground ball to second after ground ball to second. Not giving up on him, though. He’s still got pop and hope he makes an adjustment.
Nick in SF in Petaluma-Joba.
Wow, very interesting stuff :
http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....human.html
Hi fans, Anthony McCarron back for more pinch-blogging for Our Man Mark. I consulted FOB (Friend of the Blog) Evan Grant, who covers the Rangers for D Magazine and has an excellent blog about the team, for some Ranger reaction to A.J. Burnett’s suspension. Grant asked Nelson Cruz, who delivered the following quote about what happened when Burnett buzzed him: “When I was on the ground, he said, ‘Hey, that’s my fault’ and apologized and so it was just part of baseball to me. He had a clubbie (clubhouse attendant) come over again (Thursday morning, before the series finale) and apologize. I’m a little surprised he was suspended, but, you know, if you are going to hit somebody, you just shouldn’t throw at the head.”
Wins like this are great but we wont be able to beat Boston like this they have guys with 2 ERAs coming out of the pen, scoring some runs in the first 7 innings would really help.
Amazing…you’ll hammer Matsui for the ground outs, but, not a word about Jeter’s four pathetic at bats.
Are you the original Hmmm from a few years ago?
Dutch Hugo, a 250 hitter with above avg. pop is a useful DH.
Sorry, my list wasn’t inclusive or mischievious enough:
Who finishes this season with more wins:
1. Joba
2. Hughes
3. Wang
4. Aceves
5. AJ
6. Andy
How many bases did the RAYS steal on Posada?
I’ve been to 3 games this year. Andy has pitched all three.
The Yanks have won all three.
Guess who is going to the game tomorrow???
Alan Horne relieved in AA (less said the better)
Michael Dunn 2 IP, 5 K’s
Amazing…you’ll hammer Matsui for the ground outs, but, not a word about Jeter’s four pathetic at bats.
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its sad but that is how it is.
S.o.S., someone asked me that before. No, I’m not. I had no idea there was someone else with my name. When I figured it out, I added a 2.
Nick in SF in Petaluma
June 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Sorry, my list wasn’t inclusive or mischievious enough:
Who finishes this season with more wins:
1. Joba
2. Hughes
3. Wang
4. Aceves
5. AJ
6. Andy
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Don’t rule out Robertson aka King of the one-pitch win
The thing that is most impressive about Teixeira is the way he plays the game. He’s a Baseball Player. I remember posters calling him soft, or machine-like, or corporate. He plays with a lot of fire.
Uncle Ellsworth
June 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
How many bases did the RAYS steal on Posada?
I’ve been to 3 games this year. Andy has pitched all three.
The Yanks have won all three.
Guess who is going to the game tomorrow???
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Do you have a set t-shirt/jersey/other type of clothing you always wear to the games?
And Kevin Russo is back terrorizing AAA at .429
Call me crazy.
call me unconventional
call me Mr. Vegas.
But the Yanks 8th inning guy is Aceves. All he does is get guys out.
Aceves alone should fetch Heath Bell.
Uncle Ellsworth
June 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
How many bases did the RAYS steal on Posada?
I’ve been to 3 games this year. Andy has pitched all three.
The Yanks have won all three.
***Guess who is going to the game tomorrow*** ???
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Isn’that the movie with Spencer Tracy, Katherine Hepburn, Sidney Portier and Casey Syengel?
***Casey Stengel*** ?
That was a sweet win.
Gotta tell ya, I wasn’t feeling all that optimistic this time. But happy to be wrong. CB is right – they do put so much pressure on the other team, and now that the come-back wins are mounting, you know the other team is thinking about that. So, as the game gets later, if it’s close, the other team is not comfortable.
I will say it would be very nice to have an “easy” win soon, for all our mental health.
And last, but not least – I guess Mo is still Mo.
Aceves is having an incredible season.
He’d be starting on the Phillies.
Green Beret 7 — I didn’t “hammer” Matsui, I just stated the obvious. When Jeter is hitting .250 and grounding out 3/4 of his at-bats, I’ll state that too. Jeter is hitting over .300, just came off an incredible hot streak where he was getting on base nearly 50 percent of the time. Everyone’s entitled to an off-day. With Matsui, it’s been a problem for him in the past and has returned this year. I’m not the only one who’s talked about it. I like Matsui, and I root for him. But it’s obvious he is back to where he was in his first year over here. He needs to make an adjustment.
And Hmmm, you just restated what I said in my other post. I said he still has pop in his bat. I didn’t say he was useless. Stop trying to drum up controversy when there isn’t any. All I said was Matsui is grounding out to second a LOT and that I hope he makes an adjustment. That’s a fact and can’t be disputed.
“Aceves alone should fetch Heath Bell.”
Say who ?
Welcome hmmm. The origianl hmmm was a lohud blog of famer. He called people out when the just spewed stupid crap(ala GB7). One of my blog hereos. Long story short, you have a very reputable name, make us proud.
Dutch Hugo, when was I stirring up controversy? I was agreeing with you and pointing something out that people didn’t seem to notice.
Getting a little paranoid? I know the feeling.
“He seems to be that rare case of a star who is actually better than everyone thought once you get a chance to see him/root for him every day.”
Agreed. In the off season and last year I described Tex as a very, very good player but not a great one.
He’s been a great player this season – both at bat and with the glove. No doubt.
One of the main thing that’s kept him from being a truly great player have been his slow starts. He’s often had “good” first halvess and terrific second halves and on the hole that’s led to very good seasons.
Last year he had a truly great season – much of that was related to how utterly insanely he played with the Angels.
Last year Manny got alot of attention for his play with the dodgers after the trade deadline and deservedly so. But Tex was almost as good.
Some question on Tex I was wondering abotu coming into this season was whether he was still getting better? How would playing on one team with a settled line up around him impact him? How would playing with a deep team of talented players help him (as oppsed to the Braves and Angels teams he needed to carry the past two seasons…).
He’s on his way to a great year. Very impressive player to watch.
Here’s your latest sample of morons today with some repeat offenders. It never fails.
Carl June 7th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
We ain’t winning this one.
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vb03 (Gehrig to Gardner: Memoirs of a Utility IF) June 7th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
It’s gonna be a long summer if they can’t beat an injury-riddled Rays team.
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Dave June 7th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
2 wins vs. TB and BOS.
Horrendous.
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Kevlar June 7th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
We’re slumping, Tampa is red hot
Wouldn’t shock me at all if we’re back in 3rd place soon. Yankees can’t handle prosperity at all. Just when it looked like we were poised to pull away, they stop playing fundamental baseball. Error in 5 straight games. no clutch hitting, pitching gives up key runs etc.
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Carl June 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
This isn’t the same team but they are playing like it. I watch every game myself. This isn’t Baltimore, Texas, Detroit. I would love to see them come back, I just don’t see any life in this team up to this point.
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Spyder June 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
2-10 vs. TB and BOS
Great message they are sending. They can beat up on the pretenders but can’t beat the two best teams in their division.
So much for being the best team in baseball.
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West side June 7th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
And another game where the offense does absolutely nothing early. You ain’t rallying against good teams.
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David June 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Even if the game is tied, what good does that do? That means MO comes in again against a team that owns him… or Coke/Robertson/Tomko/Veras.
Considering we were tied in the 9th against the Rays in all 3 games against them this year at home, and lost all 3, does not inspire confidence.
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Terry from NH June 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
5 outs to go.. and a weak 4 hits to show for this game… 2-10 against the rivals isn’t a good sign for the Yanks.. Remember i’m a realist, not a hater!!
Hey guys, I haven’t disappeared. I HAVE decided to try and blog a bit less, so you may see me dip in less often, but I’m here.
So far I’ve agreed with Hmmm…(2) a lot. Today’s win was what it was; a win. Wins are not gifts. We played better than Tampa Bay; they made a huge error with the bases loaded to put us in position to win. We didn’t. Therefore we deserved to win.
Guiseppe-
You forgot to post anything said by DEBORAH. Or does that just go without saying?
Ah, Franco’s famous moron list…still funny.
Nice job Giuseppe,
Saves me time going through the “experts” anal-ysis.
Thanks
Uncle Elseworth,
I agree with Aceves pitching the 8th for now. If he had a fastball at 95 there wouldnt be a question about it. Unfortunately we are taught to think of a fireballer for the 8th and 9th innings. He doesnt get those macho style points. Hey, didnt we start i looong winning streak the last time you missed one of the game threads to go to a game?
Dutch Hugo
June 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Green Beret 7—I didn’t “hammer” Matsui, I just stated the obvious. When Jeter is hitting .250 and grounding out 3/4 of his at-bats, I’ll state that too. Jeter is hitting over .300, just came off an incredible hot streak where he was getting on base nearly 50 percent of the time. Everyone’s entitled to an off-day. With Matsui, it’s been a problem for him in the past and has returned this year. I’m not the only one who’s talked about it. I like Matsui, and I root for him. But it’s obvious he is back to where he was in his first year over here. He needs to make an adjustment.
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Yeah, that first year in the states was pretty brutal.
I mean, imagine a .287 average, 42 doubles, 16 homers and 106 RBI. Throw in that whopping 86 strikeouts and that was a clue to send him packing.
Hmmmm, maybe I am getting a little paranoid. Or just didn’t read between the lines when you wrote:
“Dutch Hugo, a 250 hitter with above avg. pop is a useful DH.”
For the record, Matsui is a very streaky hitter. I know he takes a lot of flak when he’s going badly, but I haven’t given up on the guy. Hoping for an extended hot streak from Godzilla soon.
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Do you have a set t-shirt/jersey/other type of clothing you always wear to the games?
Not anymore. I used to wear a helmet to all games.
Fun fact about the helmet:
Puchaseed at my first trip to Shea when I was 11 or 12.
Was intentionally dropped from the upper deck of Shea by a met fan “Friend” when I was 18. (sucessfully recovered but almost got my butt whooped.)
painted a Number 2 on it in white out for Murcer. also at 12.
Applied Giant faux Heineken cap to top on an opening day in the 80s. (it looked like a stick up air freshener)
Drunk friend “borrowed” helmet at Yanks Cleveland playoff game. He lost it and found it again – minus Heineken lid.
I had a spare Heineken Lid.
Dutch Hugo, people have called Godzilla finished twice this year, and twice he has gone on great hot streaks to put him back on the map.
He shouldn’t be counted out.
“Aceves alone should fetch Heath Bell.”
Aceves has been tremendous. And the thing is – he’s really miscast as a reliever.
Now I’m not saying in any way that for the yankees he shouldn’t be in the pen – they absolutely need him there.
But the more you see him the more confidence you get that he could be a successful back of the rotation starter – even for a winning team.
He’s got excellent command, throws four pitches for strikes, and really understands how to set up hitters.
He’d be a successful starter. Now on the yankees he won’t get that opporunity barring a nubmer of injuries.
But if Aceves ever did get into the rotation and was successful they could get a considerable amount back for him in a trade.
Cost controlled quality starting pitcher. They could get a lot for that.
That said, every year the yankees should make sure they have at least 6 quality starters to turn to.
Having Aceves working out of the pen moving into the future gives them that flexibility.
He can pitch.
And I know you don’t count him out Dutch Hugo, just saying.
Give me the ball. I will setup mo
6/7/09 Joe Girardi Show audio segment 1:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/610765951dcae966/
CB, Hmmm…(2) did mention that he’d be starting on Philly.
GF, that’s hilarious – thanks!
I don’t think Tex is a great player, but he is a GREAT first baseman. He’s better than Tino, better than anyone that I’ve seen not named Mattingly (but then, no one will ever trump Donnie in my eyes and my heart).
Uncle, that helmet may come in handy if you ever find yourself under the Paul O’neil banner.
What? No welcome back?
Just kidding.
Tex really is an incredible player…incredible.
CB, since I sort of flipped out about Phil (and have subsequently calmed down so as not to get an ulcer, lol)……..what are your thoughts on his lack of use? My concern is that Cash and Joe said one thing on Phil and completely gone around and done the other thing (said he’s not here as a caddy to anyone – we think he can do the job in the pen and we are not hesitant in the least to use him in close game). Thanks!
Jeez, Green Beret 7, I never said he sucked or should be sent packing in his first year or anytime. Why are you trying to drum up an argument with me here? Maybe you’re having a bad day and want to pick a fight. Who knows? All I said was he has been grounding out to second a LOT, which he did in his first year here, when even HE admitted he had to adjust to the two-seam fastball? He was rolling over on it alot that first year. Everyone knows that — Matsui admitted it! He made an adjustment in following years, and for some reason he has fallen back to that. Now, if that’s not clear enough and you need an interpreter, I’ll try once more and write more slowly so you can understand this: I NEVER SAID WE SHOULD GET RID OF MATSUI OR THAT HE SUCKS. I SIMPLY STATED THE OBVIOUS — THAT HE IS GROUNDING OUT TO SECOND BASE A LOT. OK? Or do you want to dispute that?
“Welcome hmmm. The origianl hmmm was a lohud blog of famer. He called people out when the just spewed stupid crap(ala GB7). One of my blog hereos. Long story short, you have a very reputable name, make us proud.”
persoanlly, i think “hmmm” should be an officially retired username.
i just can’t get used to a new poster using it.
pretty big shoes to fill.
6/7/09 Joe Girardi Show audio segment 2:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/610769148e534673/
Don’t worry. I’m an infrequent poster anyway.
Tell you what: After today you could retire the name and if I decide to post again I’ll use a new name.
Texeira MVP — I am not one of those people who said Matsui is finished. So don’t use me to illustrate that point. I stated in a previous post, just a couple of minutes ago, that I realize Matsui is a streaky hitter and I’m hoping he goes on an extended hot streak.
This board sometimes…
“Hmmm…(2) did mention that he’d be starting on Philly.”
He’d be starting on a lot of teams – not just ones in the NL that have poor pitching staffs like the Phillies. The Phillies have the third worst team ERA in the NL and Brett Meyers just got hurt.
Aceves could start for teams with much better pitching staffs.
He’s getting AL hitters out consistently and doing so in a very uncovnetional way for a reliever. He’s mixing 3-4 pitches out of the pen. He’s throwing like a starter out of the pen.
The Rays have the second highest OPS in all of baseball. Now they’re dealing with a ton of injuries now. But Aceves cut through the heart of their line up.
SoS – I think missed the threads for other reasons.
I did miss the DEWBORAH thread though.
Admit it you guys want her to come back.
Tracy Hepburn wow. who played the daughter?
6/7/09 Joe Girardi Show audio segment 3:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61076987f27c2c2a/
CB, I got to watch Texeria almost every game when he came over to The Angels….Man he’s the real deal…At this rate he’ll be a HOF as he’ll hit 500′s dingers as a switch hitter and I do believe he’ll pick up 2 MVP’s……Tyler Matzek last night in the Orange County HS Championship came on in the 5th inning in a 0-0 game at Anahiem Stadium…..He hits a 3-0 fastball into the seats and then gets the win as Capostrano HS wins the Championship….He’s going to picked in the top 5-6 come Tuesday….Very mature kid, much like Phillip Hughes was without all the expectations that Phillip had throughout his prep years at Foothill HS…..
6/7/09 Joe Girardi Show audio final segment:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6107703737b9b727/
I’ve ripped Girardi countless times, but even I didn’t mind his intentional walk to Longoria. I would have done the same thing. But after seeing his at bat today, they had to be at least a little distressed about not pitching to him after all yesterday. Longoria looked horrible up there today and even though he was ordered not to run hard he doesn’t look very healthy still. Considering the games he’s already missed I wonder if putting him on the DL would have been the better move.
I love watching the NESN recap when the Sox lose. Today they had a question from a viewer that had me ROFL.
(and they seriously debated the issue, which was even more comical!)
The Question: “On catching ability alone should Jason Varitek be given Hall of Fame consideration?”
“Isn’that the movie with Spencer Tracy, Katherine Hepburn, Sidney Portier and Casey Syengel?”
“Casey Stengel ?”
gb 7-
no need to correct spelling . if everyone is like me they’ve learned to translate you by now.
i sped up the process by getting the english (american)(green beret 7) version of rosetta stone.
Dutch Hugo, did you see my post right after that?
Chill, dude. Chill.
Just in case you missed it Dutch Hugo…
“And I know you don’t count him out Dutch Hugo, just saying.”
CB,
Great take on Aceves and I agree. I think he’s already valuable in a trade but they need him as 6th-starter insurance until some of the arms in the lower minors develop and become more major league ready.
I would still like to add Heath Bell to this bullpen.
Uncle Ellsworth
June 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
SoS – I think missed the threads for other reasons.
Tracy Hepburn wow. who played the daughter?
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The daughter, Joanna was played by a pretty redhead, Katharine Houghton. Casey Stengel played himself.
Tom would a helmet be classified as a weapon??
We may need to consult Rebecca.
No WEAPONS UNDER THE BANNER! (little brothers, sisters neices, nephews are permitted though)
“I got to watch Texeria almost every game when he came over to The Angels….Man he’s the real deal…”
Pat M,
As usual, you were right on Tex. I thought he was a very good player but not a great one so there was an argument to be made on whether he was worth $150M + contract.
It wasn’t until I really sat down and figured out how many additional wins signing Tex would mean for this team given their aging line up did I really think they should go all in and sign Tex to that kind of contract.
He’s been worth every penny and more.
He played the best ball of his life for the Angels last year. But was only OK for the Braves before that.
He’s been something of a superstar vagabond the past several years so maybe he just needed to settle in to put together a consistent year that would get him to that MVP level.
But he’s there now. No doubt. He’s the team MVP so far and he and Youkilis (who will cool down…) would be vying for the AL mvp right now were the season to end.
And you were all over Tyler Matzek. He’s going to make a lot of money for himself in a couple of days.
I’ve heard almost nothing negative about him at all. A high school left who throws in the 90′s and already throws 3-4 above average pitches? That’s a very rare thing.
Heard somewhere that he was up to 94-96 in some recent starts. Does he have room to add that kind of velocity consistently?
Let’s hope the yankees get lucky in the draft. Tyler’s not lasting past the top 7-8. Hopefully they can get another high ceiling guy.
Tex MVP — yeah I did. But you did direct that post at me so I felt obligated to correct the record for anyone else out there who just saw your first post and then would use it to attack. Which seems to happen a lot around here. Just sayin’.
Maybe they meant ‘on *C*aptain ability alone’?
randy l.
June 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
“Isn’that the movie with Spencer Tracy, Katherine Hepburn, Sidney Portier and Casey Syengel?”
“Casey Stengel ?”
gb 7-
no need to correct spelling . if everyone is like me they’ve learned to translate you by now.
i sped up the process by getting the english (american)(green beret 7) version of rosetta stone.
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Damned you. You’ve caught me by surprise and I don’t have a smart remark for you.
Understood Dutch.
CB, SJ the other day indicated that he heard whispers that Baltimore was grabbing him at # 4 ( ? )…..He has taken it up to 96 several times…He’s very smooth in his delivery with a sound foundation…His has a very mature mental approach when he’s on the mound, opposite of Cole last year….He’ll get to AA ball within 2 years and be very good….Baltimore is a team on the rise since MacPhail took over
“Maybe they meant ‘on *C*aptain ability alone’?”
Nick – they discussed that too. It was laughable. Varitek has caught 4 no-hitters. They said if he catches two more (they brought up the Lester near one last night), he would have to be considered.
Depends should be a NESN advertiser, I swear.
“He’s been something of a superstar *vagabond* the past several years so maybe he just needed to settle in to put together a consistent year that would get him to that MVP level.”
CB – I think you mean hobo. That other word has filter issues.
“He’s been something of a superstar *hobo* the past several years so maybe he just needed to settle in to put together a consistent year that would get him to that MVP level.”
I don’t know how CB got that one past the goalie.
“the other day indicated that he heard whispers that Baltimore was grabbing him at # 4 ( ? )…..He has taken it up to 96 several times…”
I could see that. Almost every name I’ve heard them linked to has been a pitcher. Question there is whether they’ll go college or HS for the arm.
If Tyler’s hitting 96 then that’s just ridiculous. If he has room to fill out and get to 92-95 as a lefty with several plus pitches he’s on his way… A left handed pitcher with command and even a couple of plus secondary offerings will fly through the minors. If he gains some velocity and is throwing 3-4 pitches… that’s something.
McPhail has done an amazing job in Baltimore. That Bedard trade was a franchise changing event for them. Adam Jones is going to be an absolute star. He looks amazing this year. And Chris Tillman is one of the top arms in the minors.
They are going to be very formidable in a couple of seasons. Not too far off. They have a lot of good pitching in the minors. Tyler at 4 would only help… unfortunately.
Hey Pete, I understand second guessing is a part of the game, but as you said last week, don’t suppose you know more about the Yankees than Joe Girardi. If he bunted with Jeter, then so be it. He had his reasons.