Game 57: Rays at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 08, 2009 
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YANKEES (33-23)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: LHP Andy Pettitte (5-2, 4.33).
RAYS (29-29)
Upton CF
Crawford LF
Longoria 3B
Pena 1B
Aybar 2B
Zobrist SS
Dillon DH
Kapler RF
Hernandez C
Pitching: RHP Andy Sonnanstine (4-5, 7.07).
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees need a win to take the series. They have won seven of the last eight series. … The Red Sox are off today, so a win would give the Yankees a one-game lead in the division before they head to Boston tonight to open a three-game series tomorrow.
THE PERILS OF PETTITTE: Pettitte has pitched only 10 innings in his last two starts, allowing 13 hits and walking 11. But he has given up only five runs somehow. He has been troubled by a bad back but that has abated. His five wins are tied with CC Sabathia for the staff lead.
SONNANSTINE STUMBLES: After going 13-9, 4.38 last season, Sonnanstine has allowed 78 hits over 56 innings and walked 16. There has been some improvement lately. Sonnanstine is 3-1, 6.75 in his last four starts.
DEFENSE ANYBODY? After not making an error for a MLB-record 18 consecutive games, the Yankees have committed at least one error in each of the last five games.
HOME COOKING: The Yankees are 17-11 at home.
NEVER FINISHED: The Yankees lead the majors with 20 come-from-behind wins. They have won 11 games in their last at-bat, the most in the AL.
PITCHING IS THE KEY: The Yankees are 20-0 when they hold opponents to three runs or less. They are the only team undefeated in that category.
STUFF ON SWISH: Nick Swisher has 11 homers. He did not get to 11 last season until June 30. He has hit right of his 11 homers left-handed.
THANKS: To Ernie Palladino for filling in as he is covering the game tonight. Not sure how many updates we’ll have. I’m getting a head start up to Boston for the Red Sox series. But I’ll check in later on.
Enjoy the game.
Let’s go Yankees!
Enjoy the chowdah!
Our lineup is just ful of players having career years…Swish, Melky, Tex, even Posada… and Jeter and Cano are having sensational comeback years…incredible.
If Andy gives up 3 runs in five inings, we have a blowout win.
Kay drooling over Teixiera.
New Englanders do love their chowdah:
1939 – In February 1939, a bill was introduced by Assemblyman Seeder to the Maine legislature to make it a statutory and culinary offense to put tomatoes into chowder.
http://whatscookingamerica.net.....howder.htm
We gotta get this one tonight, Sonnastine stinks and going into Peter Gammons national park 1 game ahead would be awesome….
Hopefully Andy’s Back is better, I saw him pitch at the stadium on Wednesday… yikes, He Made Jaime Moyer look young
How many of the errors are on the catchers and the pitchers?
Tom in N.J.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
New Englanders do love their chowdah:
1939 – In February 1939, a bill was introduced by Assemblyman Seeder to the Maine legislature to make it a statutory and culinary offense to put tomatoes into chowder.
http://whatscookingamerica.net.....howder.htm
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A very good bill.
Why ruin a good chowder with tomatoes?
Off-topic – but I really have to say that as much as I dislike the Lace & Stiletto ads, the one for cellulite is far more difficult to look at!
Swisher is not having a career year, this year’s performance is pretty much on par with his past standards (removing ’08 as an aberration downwards). Posada has been hurt, so it’s hard to call his numbers anything close to career year status. He is on pace for a kind of year in line with his track record, as is Melky (in terms of trending more towards his ’07 performance as opposed to ’08) and Teixeira.
Unless by career year you meant they are having statistical years on par with their career averages.
Sonnanstine has a 7.07 ERA. He has a 1.7 WHIP and .329 BAA
Righties have a .431 BAA and a 2.61 WHIP against him.
He is 1-5 with a 9.00 ERA on the road.
Andrew I did mean that, although Melky is having a better year than he’s ever had…batting over 300, and now he’s Mr. Clutch.
Why is Jorge the catcher?
Andy gives up a million baserunners… why wouldn’t you want your best defensive catcher out there?
The Rays are going to steal on him and manufacture runs to death.
Oh, and that means he is going to be rested sometime in Boston, he isin’t going to play 5 days in a row. Would be a perfect time to give him a day off, yet another blunder by Joe.
“Sonnanstine has a 7.07 ERA. He has a 1.7 WHIP and .329 BAA
Righties have a .431 BAA and a 2.61 WHIP against him.
He is 1-5 with a 9.00 ERA on the road.”
And he has already pitched well against the Yankees this season, so there’s no excuse for the offense not to hit him this time around.
Andy controls the running game by picking players off.
Doreen
June 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Off-topic – but I really have to say that as much as I dislike the Lace & Stiletto ads, the one for cellulite is far more difficult to look at!
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I was thinking that but didn’t dare say it.
Stop finding things to complain about, there is nothing wrong with playing Jorge. Apparently Joe has made enough “blunders” to keep us in first place.
“yet another blunder by Joe.”
Yeah he has blundered his way into 1st place. Get a clue.
Quit your complaining Ralph
some of you are crazy, finding anything to complain about. We have the 3rd best record in the majors and tied for the best in the AL, and in first in the East despite horrible records against Boston and Tampa. And you have to know that we will not go 0-18 against Boston so it can only go up. just enjoy the fact we are finally in first place.
Wang vs. Sox? We’ll see.
I actually think Wang will pitch well.
lets get em boys
Wow this lady is an idiot on Francessa.
The usual lineup whiners are out of school I see.
This could be the best lineup in baseball!
I hope they don’t look past the Rays.
It would be good to give Andy a nice lead, give Phil some work, and let Mo rest up for Boston…
Go Yanks!
RS,
I agree. There is no reason for this guy shut us down tonight. He has already pitched 2 good games against us, yet he gets lit up by everyone else.
We have our A lineup out there today. We need to crush him.
“Why is Jorge the catcher? … Oh, and that means he is going to be rested sometime in Boston, he isin’t going to play 5 days in a row. Would be a perfect time to give him a day off, yet another blunder by Joe.”
And if Cervelli was in the lineup: “Another blunder by Joe. We need our best offensive catcher, Jorge, in there because Andy will give up runs early and we need to be able to come back against the powerful Tampa offense.”
Give it a rest already with the lineup gripes.
Liser from Whitestone = Worst caller ever
First lineup complaint of the day. Congrats.
Did the Rays run like crazy on Posada yesterday?
The Rays will run on everybody. Francisco Cervelli isn’t going to curtail the Rays running.
This is the only the second game of the year (last year was the first) the Yankees have their entire everyday lineup for a game.
Cervelli will catch Thursday (most likely) for CC.
Aside from that, there is no reason to change the lineup. In case you have been in a coma for the last 5 weeks, the Yankees have been playing great.
Yeah, Girardi has made a ton of lineup blunders this year.
How in the world do they have the best record in the AL, despite the fact their everyday lineup has only be in tact for TWO games this year?
Doesn’t seem like to me that it indicates lineup blunders by the manager.
“Wow this lady is an idiot on Francessa.”
She’s no better when she calls Michael Kay’s show either.
Re: Jorge
Interesting that a 37 year old catcher who has been on the DL for most of the past two seasons is now playing just about every day. It is probably because he wants to play, but if it was up to me, I would slow it down a bit or he is going to be back on the DL in no time.
Matsui is still not hitting all that well. I would move Jorge to DH now and then (maybe three games out of ten?) and give Cervelli some more chances to play before Molina is ready to come back.
K-Rod is 15\15 in saves and has a 0.68 ERA
Why is Mike so intent on burying Mo already. It seems everyone is ready to throw dirt on Mo. I am so sick of it. It really started in 2003 or 2004 when he blew those back to back games to start the season against the soxs. Enough already!
I would love to see all of our switch hitters bat from the right side
Sonnanstine stinks, hopefully we pound him like a red-headed step child.
Posada is going to give up a lot of steals tonight with him and Andy paired up, that is a good point Ralph.
We need this win b/c I want the Yanks to win every series from here on out against division rivals.
Even though they are the AL Champs, I will not be able to accept the Rays as anything more than a Mickey Mouse Franchise until they get a new stadium. The place they play in is an abomination.
Yesterday, not last year. Sorry for the typo.
A win today would be huge. It puts the Rays back under .500 and 7 games back in the loss column. Also, the Yankees could lose 2-1 at Fenway and still come home in first place.
Hopefully we score a bunch of runs early, and Pettitte gives us a solid 6-7 innings. The last thing we need is for Mo to have to pitch his 3rd game in a row and be unavailable for the series opener in Boston.
This is what I’d like to see:
Andy goes 6 and hands over a 4 run lead to Phil.
Phil pitches 2 scoreless and Tomko mopes up.
Yankees Win, Theeeeeee Yankees Win!
SJ44
I guess the Yankees are winning inspite of the manager.
Seems like every lineup is wrong.
Mo is getting older, but I’m writing off yesterday’s bad game due to his stomach bug.
bryanhoch Little CC Sabathia is fielding ground balls from his Dad in shallow right field.
Anyone want to bet that Kay will say something about an Andy facing an Andy questioning how many times that has happened in bb history.
“K-Rod is 15\15 in saves and has a 0.68 ERA”
And…?
“Interesting that a 37 year old catcher who has been on the DL for most of the past two seasons is now playing just about every day. It is probably because he wants to play, but if it was up to me, I would slow it down a bit or he is going to be back on the DL in no time.”
Girardi is in a tough spot because we wants Posada to play these games against the Rays, Red Sox, and Mets, but he also needs to give him some rest because we have some interleague road games coming up where Posada can’t DH.
We could really use a nice blowout win tonight… giving MO and the rest of the pen a night off before Boston where the pen will undoubtedly be worked.
Yanks win 9-3… Andy for 6, Hughes for 3 (or Hughes for 2, Veras for 1) or something sounds nice.
SJ, You’re doing that thing into the wind again….
Maine,
If Joe Torre was the manager, they would be 55-1. Or so I’ve been told by the Whine Brigade.
The players hate Joe. Mike Francesa hates Joe. They play too tight. You know, the usual stuff we read in here once grammar school is out for the day.
Hughes will not pitch today. They’re gonna save him in case Wang explodes.
RS
June 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
A win today would be huge. It puts the Rays back under .500 and 7 games back in the loss column. Also, the Yankees could lose 2-1 at Fenway and still come home in first place.
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Hopefully the players go into Fenway wanting to win the series not lose it.
Good time to put some distance between them.
According to Francessa Jorge and Joe hate each other…
Get back to me in a few years about K-Rod. He does not have the shelf life of someone like Mo (no closers do, except for maybe Hoffman and he’s done his damage in the NL his entire career and we remember his sterling postseason performances). You want to say K-Rod could become Hoffman version 2.0 because he has a good change-up, you can make the argument but I’m not buying it. His fastball is on a steady decline, and his arm has logged a lot of innings from his youngest years. The Mets will get their money’s worth right now, but down the line a little further he is chock-full of red flags.
“If Joe Torre was the manager, they would be 55-1.”
And the one incredibly classy loss is so that classy Joe wouldn’t disrespect the rest of the division with a perfect record.
It’s a very classy loss orchestrated by a classy manager.
Classy.
Big game for Yanks. Would love to see them go to Boston with a 1 game lead rather than tied. Sonnastine kills you with his variety of breaking balls and change ups. Yanks have to be patient and stay back on his pitches. Lets hope Andy has his command tonight.
Wow – It took Kay 4 years to figure out that the Yankees are a far better offense without Matsui in the lineup.
And just realized that he grounds out to the second baseman all the time, and doesn’t run well… Bang up Job Mike
“Anyone want to bet that Kay will say something about an Andy facing an Andy questioning how many times that has happened in bb history.”
Oh yeah. And the Elias Sports Bureau will get him an answer.
And let’s not forget Sterling. “It’s Andy versus Andy. Which one will be more Dandy?”
Hoffman can’t lick Mo’s shoes.
Pat M,
I just like driving the Whine Brigade crazy. lol
murphydog-“It’s Andy versus Andy. Which one will be more Dandy?”
With Longoria back in the lineup do we bunt a bit more to third base if the play suggests it to try out longoria over at 3rd??
Matsui is still worth using at DH because when he gets hot he gets really hot.
I like Sterling, but the ‘Swish-a -licicous’ on that home run call is one of his worst ever.!
SJ44
June 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Maine,
If Joe Torre was the manager, they would be 55-1. Or so I’ve been told by the Whine Brigade.
The players hate Joe. Mike Francesa hates Joe. They play too tight. You know, the usual stuff we read in here once grammar school is out for the day.
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We can be thankfull, Francessa keeps some of them with him so maybe they aren’t here.
The catcher is nearly irrelevant to the running game when Pettitte pitches. Either he will hold them close and control it himself because they don’t want to get picked off, or the runners will guess and go on first move. If they guess right, Andy is slow enough to the plate that Irod in his prime would have trouble throwing out runners.
gayle, that’s not a bad idea.
Today, they all need to bat right handed. Don’t follow the usual “bat lefty vs. righty, bat righty vs. lefty” pattern. Sonnanstine’s splits are so stark.
He has actually done very well against lefties… 1.15 WHIP, .248 BAA. Only 1 HR and 8 walks in 35 innings.
Whereas he has a 2.61 WHIP/.433 BAA vs. righties.
What is Ralph talking about? That lineup looks awesome to me. A .300 hitter in the 9 hole. And Jorge manufactures runs at the plate which is key to our offense.
Andy is dandy but licquor…is quite possible the only thing that’s going to get me through the next few days.
Wouldn’t Nady be back by the time they play the 9 straight NL park games?
So yeah you sit Matsui. Some of those games might not have Posada as some will be day game following night.
Is Longoria definitely back? During his PH at-bat in the 9th yesterday he looked like he was moving pretty gingerly to 1st on his ground out…I figured he would be out again today or, if anything, DHing and not running full-speed.
“With Longoria back in the lineup do we bunt a bit more to third base if the play suggests it to try out longoria over at 3rd??”
Watching Longoria trying to run(waddle?) yesterday, I have to believe he will be at DH if he plays tonight.
If Andy has another clunker today, Girardi HAS to take him out of the rotation and put Hughes in his place.
Andy looks completely toast. He hasn’t had a good game since mid April.
According to Ed Price he is back in the lineup and says his hammy is about 95%
I actually have a dream that one day, Joba will put on an awful wig and glasses and do an impromptu Francesa impersonation post-game, with Swisher as Mad Dog.
That would be awesome, but it would never happen.
Mark in Tampa, we bunt anyway so we could watch Aybar drop the ball.
I never thought I would say this, but thank goodness the game is on ESPN tonight so that I don’t have to listen to the awful Rays broadcasters for another game!
Yep Jorge hates Joe sooo much that is why when he was on the dl he was standing right next to Joe Bs’ing. I’m so sick of this made up nonsense by Mike. All he is doing is try to stir up controversy. He is trying to make the Yankees into Melrose Place.
Pat M
I went to a game in Portland Sat. night. Jim Lonborg threw out the first pitch. Not as sharp as in 67. He bounced it in front of the plate.
Vin,
Barring injury, Andy isn’t leaving the rotation.
“I never thought I would say this, but thank goodness the game is on ESPN tonight”
You have my sympathies.
Didn’t Jorge DH on Saturday? So he hasn’t caught five days in a row.
Also this sentence amused me: “He has hit right of his 11 homers left-handed.” How much is 11 minus right, anyhow?
—Keith
Yes, Aybar is brutal! Betemit redux?
“Sonnanstine has a 7.07 ERA. He has a 1.7 WHIP and .329 BAA
Righties have a .431 BAA and a 2.61 WHIP against him.
He is 1-5 with a 9.00 ERA on the road.”
ATTROCIOUS
Once and for all. What authority is Francesa on anything other than how to pick up a can of Diet Coke ?
Jibberish is his game.
ANDY SONNANSTINE IS A STAHTIN’ PITCHA’!!!!!
Jeter bunt to third.
The Betemit/Aybar parallel seems pretty accurate Mark, the Rays move him around the diamond the same way the Yankees did with Betemit and he doesn’t appear to excel defensively at any of his positions. He seems better suited to DH, but they have so many holes to fill due to injury that he’s just got to play the field somewhere at this point. And, when he gets a fastball he can hit it hard (much like our beloved Wilson), but not so much on the offspeed stuff.
“I like Sterling, but the ‘Swish-a -licicous’ on that home run call is one of his worst ever.!”
You have to suspend disbelief, like in the theater, in order to truly “get” John Sterling. It’s 1958 all over again. Ike’s in the WHite House, Mom’s in the kitchen wearing an apron, dress and pumps, and Dad’s in the garage, his pipe hanging out of the corner of his mouth, Captain Black wafting through the air, as he fiddles with the toaster wiring…
Ah, that wasn’t my life. My mom and dad both smoked cigarettes, we lived in a small apartment and my father never, ever fiddled with the toaster. If it didn’t work, he shook it violently and then threw it out.
Maybe Mike should ask Jorge who was the biggest influence on him when he was coming up with the Yankees in terms of catchers. I am not listening today have it on mute but I bet Mike would be very surprised to find out that Girardi was a HUGE or as Kay says HUUUUUge influence on Jorge they have almost a brotherly type relationship and he does not hate him in the least.
I always felt whomever was the manager of the Yankees one of he hardest parts was going to be how to manage the older players as they begin to lose some of their skill set you need to figure out how to get the most from them without the perceived insulting of them at the same time.
Maybe they are looking to set a record for most consecutive games with an error. Does anyone know what it is?
This lineup needs to replace Matsui with Gardner make Swisher the DH. Have Gardner bunt to Longoria. Gardner OBP is higher than Matsui.
Longoria in the lineup is good news
Did you see him yesterday? He looked like he was going to collapse in the batters box and couldn’t even run hard to 1st.
no
Vince – Francesa pretty much lost everything when Russo left. I love listening to Mad Dog on XM… I get angry when I turn on Mike on WFAN.
It’s complete, total opposites comparin the WFAN morning show with the afternoon show. Boomer and Carton is fun and hilarious, Francesa is bitter, angry, and awful.
I would love it if WFAN dumped Francesa for Carlin, but it would never happen.
Tom, that would be too funny.
You just know Longoria is hitting a HR.
I would love it if WFAN dumped Francesa for anyone or anything. How about the Sterl & Suzyn show.
Sorry about that. LSD flashback.
“The catcher is nearly irrelevant to the running game when Pettitte pitches.”
True maybe as to the running game. But Pettitte likes to have his catcher call the game and he likes to throw whatever pitch the catcher signals. No knock on Cervelli, but Andy might be a tad more comfortable with Jorge.
“K-Rod is 15\15 in saves and has a 0.68 ERA”
Hopefully the Yanks will get a chance to inflate that ERA this weekend… K-Rod has always annoyed me. I remember a couple years ago when the Angels were at the As and he was trying to nail down a save, I believe. He had blown the save, the game was tied, and there was a runner at third. He threw a curve that was called a ball. It was a borderline call and he was staring down the ump as the catcher threw the ball back to him. Since he was busy trying to show up the ump, he didn’t quite have his eye on the ball. Well, the ball nicked off his glove and rolled behind him as the runner on third broke for home and scored.
Game over, prick.
Does anybody remember seeing highlights of that? It was better than seeing Cliff Floyd hit a homerun off him, walk-off style, at Shea in extras.
The worst part of Francessa is that he makes up rumors and passes them off as facts
Like for example, he said the hot rumor is that CLE is shopping Carmona. Nowhere has that rumor even been speculated, let alone reported. He is down in A-ball now.
And of course, he keeps repeating the line about how there are “grumblings” from the veterans that don’t like Girardi, where there has no word of that at all this year, infact it has been just the opposite. He is recycling last year’s rumors and passing them off as facts now.
The only Inside info Francessa has is what is next meal is going to be.
murphydog,
I was just saying that in response to someone earlier who said the Rays would run wild because Posada was catching tonight.
Mark in tampa
I mute the Rays announcers and listen to the major league mix channel. You get the Yankee audio that way. I hope that works for you, I have sattelite and the mlb package. I hate listening to those guys crying about close calls going against tht Rays.
From what I’ve read, there was a lot of competition between Jorge and Joe Girardi when both were catching for the Yankees. Posada really had to fight for his playing time. I think it’s fair to say that Girardi and Posada are both very competitive and may have been tough on each other when teammates in some respects. But that doesn’t translate into animosity today.
K-Rod is one of the more enjoyable guys to beat in the majors I would think, just because the players know he is going to really ham it up on the mound if he nails down the save. The knife cuts both ways I’m sure for teams facing Joba (case in point, Aubrey Huff’s shenanigans), but K-Rod to me is a much more ridiculous hot dog out on the mound, especially considering the 1-inning nature of his work. I hope for a blown save this weekend, but I hope more for him to not appear in any save situations against the Yanks.
I said it once before but this lineup is ridiculous so far this year. Everybody is at .800 OPS or higher. Five of those guys are at .918 OPS or higher. That’s unheard of.
If Wang steps it up this team is unbeatable.
Maine Yankee,,,I wonder if Old Jim still ski’s
Please, no reminders about Sterling!
Sonnenstine is pretty ordinary. I’ve sene him pitch aobut a dozen times and always shake my head in disbelief when he has a really good game. One hting he does well is keep the ball down. If an upmire gives him a low strike zone or hitter chase stuff below their knees he gets good results.
NL hitters don’t know KRod… draw a line at 81 games and I bet his second half will be far worse than his first. He’s good, don’t get me wrong, but not dominant as his heater cools.
Good night to score 12 or so since Mo and Aceves are probably off limits and they want to hold Hughes for Wang’s start.
K-Rod looks like such an idiot after every save. Ditto with Papelbon.
Our bullpen is our biggest problem. If we get that fixed, we’re in great shape.
“I was just saying that in response to someone earlier who said the Rays would run wild because Posada was catching tonight.”
Absolutely. I’m not disagreeing with you
Andy’s got some move to first, and if he’s focused and actively holds the runners the other team will respect it. But he needs to stay focused (steal home anyone?) He’s slow to the plate, big leg kick, less than blistering fastball, so there is a chance for Tampa to exploit this.
All I’m saying is that according to various accounts, Andy really likes to not think about what he’s throwing. He just wants to throw what the catcher calls. And there maybe Jorge has an edge over Cervelli from his familiarity with Andy.
And of course, he keeps repeating the line about how there are “grumblings” from the veterans that don’t like Girardi, where there has no word of that at all this year, infact it has been just the opposite. He is recycling last year’s rumors and passing them off as facts now.
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I think that if that was the case Pete would have said something by now. He seems to have good insight as to what’s going on with the team.
Someone just called and said Wasn’t Joe, Posada’s mentor. He just said they never had a great relationship!! I’ve heard in numerous interviews Jorge say he was like his brother!
“Please, no reminders about Sterling!”
Lo siento, amigo. No mas.
You think Hughes is off-limits until Wang pitches? I would guess that if Pettitte comes up lame or starts walking tons of people again, Hughes might get the call. He hasn’t pitched in a week now, I would say use him now for fear of having rust start to collect on his arm. But I think it all depends on Pettitte, in terms of health and performance. If he gets KO’ed early they could always go to Tomko instead, but Hughes is due for an appearance.
deputy dawg,
I get Extra Innings through cable, so I don’t think I can do that. I mute them too, and every once in a while turn the volume on to see if they have gotten any better. So far, no luck. Through the first two games of the series, the Yankees have won or kept it close only because:
The umps want the Yanks to win. The umps will not make a call against the Yanks in New York. The Stadium is a band box. The Yankees cheat. The Yankees get the most improbable lucky breaks, never any bad ones. Because they spend more money. Because the Rays are all injured and the Yanks are 100% healthy.
Then there was this one:
“It’s great to think that Ben Zobrist is in the same class as Albert Pujols”-Dwayne Statts
Pat M
June 8th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Maine Yankee,,,I wonder if Old Jim still ski’s
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I believe I read that he still does.
Andrew, I guess if Pettite is KO’ed early you can go to Hughes.
if you’re listening to Francessa, it is plain and simple…you’re an idiot
7 innings for Andy tonight!
Could somebody call this clown and tell him that Mo was sick with a stomach bug yesterday?
“I’ve heard in numerous interviews Jorge say he was like his brother!”
Sure. And Girardi was the Big Brother.
I think that the Yanks would not hesitate to use Hughes tonight since Aceves should be available again tomorrow for multi-inning work.
hokiehill, I love listening to Francessa…too funny.
The bloom is off Melky can we get Gardner back in please!
So is it fair to say that we all now know… that MadDog was the brains of the operation?
“I said it once before but this lineup is ridiculous so far this year. Everybody is at .800 OPS or higher. Five of those guys are at .918 OPS or higher. That’s unheard of.”
patrick-
i noticed a few days ago that the pedroia’s ops was the same yankee average ops. so one of their top players would be an average player on the yankees.
i agree if wang come back and the yankees dodge the injury bug ,this team is loaded.
dan l, yes, I think we all agree that after one day with no hits Melky’s time is done..ditto with Jeet. Let’s use Pena.
Wait a minute…
francesca is horrendous nowadays but I still listen occasionally. The bottom line is, WFAN is the only station I know of that’s dedicated to New York sports. Even if francesca is saying stupid stuff he is still talking about the topics that I want to think about on my ride home. Stupid talk about Yankee baseball is better than no talk about Yankee baseball.
Yes I listen to Kay too, I usually switch between the two stations. Kay is a bit more intelligent than francesca but not by much.
Mark in Tampa
I listened to the Twins feed one night to see what they had to say and it was similar to what you’re saying about the Tampa feed.
IT is nice to know someone is going through the same feeling of wanting to yell at those three morons. As bush as they are now, they were worse last year when Magrane was the color guy.
Melky’s 28 day splits over at Baseball-Reference…go look and then comment.
http://www.baseball-reference......9&t=b
Mark in Tampa,
I’m pretty sure the game will be blacked out on ESPN tonight.
So more Dewayne Statts and Kevin Kennedy. yea
The “bloom is off the rose” with Melky? Care to elaborate?
Sounds like a dumb statement to me. Convince otherwise.
Convince ME otherwise. Sorry for the typo.
This just in: David Ortiz’s eyes checked out ok. Turns out he just flat out sucks!
At least with Magrane, I felt like he was doing it tongue-in-cheek somewhat. It is amazing how bad most broadcasters are. The Yankees crew seem to be among the most impartial. Much as it pains me to say, so were the NESN guys when Remy was in the booth. Obviously, he woould pull for the sox, but he always seems to call it right down the middle and actually give credit to the other team when it is due; not blame it on luck or the umpires. BTW, Eckersley is awful.
SJ go look at Melky’s 28 day splits over at Baseball-Reference and tell me if you want Melky playing? I hope you like your Ops under .700 as that is where Melky is over his last 80 pa or 21 games. Melky was just on a hot streak and it’s over.
Yeah our offense is pretty impressive. If you think about it everyone is either meeting expectations of exceeding them. MAYBE you could say that Cano and Matsui are a bit below what we expect them but they are still doing well enough. A-rod hasn’t even hit his stride yet.
Honestly I think the bullpen issues are a bit overblown right now. We have our top 2 setup men on the DL and our best relief prospect knocking on the door. We also have 4 starters that are capable of blowing away a team on any given night.
SJ44
June 8th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Convince ME otherwise. Sorry for the typo.
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You filling in for GB7?
Andy In Sunny Daytona,
Thanks. Do you want to kick my dog, too?
Yes, his game winning HR vs. Texas, game winning hit vs. Philly, game winning hit vs. Minnesota, and game winning HR vs. Oakland tell me he’s the guy we want to sit right now.
Melky value is an alltime high right now it wont stay this high. I would trade Melky to Kansas City for Joakim Soria
To put it into perspective, the Yankees as a TEAM have a .837 OPS.
Patrick, our offense is great, but the BP problems are not overblown. We rank 25th in the league in bullpen. That is awful.
I hope Matsui proves me wrong, but I’d like to see him get a day or two off. He is hitting so weakly right now. He’s obviously nowhere near 100% and he’s becoming a liability at the plate.
Ohlendorf. A lot smarter than the average bear.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4230662
Twice Matsui has gone cold and people have called him finished, then he went on a hot streak and all of a sudden he’s doing fine.
Matsui is a streaky hitter, he’ll do better.
Mark in Tampa
June 8th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
At least with Magrane, I felt like he was doing it tongue-in-cheek somewhat. It is amazing how bad most broadcasters are. The Yankees crew seem to be among the most impartial. Much as it pains me to say, so were the NESN guys when Remy was in the booth. Obviously, he woould pull for the sox, but he always seems to call it right down the middle and actually give credit to the other team when it is due; not blame it on luck or the umpires. BTW, Eckersley is awful.
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Agree whith you on Remy and Eck. Eck is unbearable.
Another good one is Jim Palmer on MASN.
Seems to know about players on other teams and willing to give praise where it’s due.
“Melky value is an alltime high right now it wont stay this high. I would trade Melky to Kansas City for Joakim Soria”
If Kansas was stupid enough I’d do it in a heartbeat, only 3 cutters in baseball that I respect, Mo, Halladay and his.
“Honestly I think the bullpen issues are a bit overblown right now.”
This is 100% true, but of course you would be in the minority on this because guys like Veras and Tomko are still in the bullpen. The fact is the starters pitching performing better across the board has made even the unreliable bullpen arms look better simply due to the scarcity of their use. Furthermore guys like Tomko and Veras haven’t imploded lately, so it’s not as much of a nightmare as it could have been (thanks mostly to the emergence of Ace Aceves).
I agree with the sentiment that there is still too much to be determined by the returns of Bruney and Marte + the eventual promotion of Melancon to say the bullpen is a complete disaster…but I do still think the team needs to get another reliever before July 31. Just to be safe, and who knows they may be able to catch some lightning in a bottle.
What are we going to do with Matsui when we play 9 games against NL teams on the road? He becomes strictly a pinch hitter and not a good one either.
David Ortiz’s hands are slow in going to the ball….His leg drive seems to be the same, it’s just looks like his hands have slowed down…Maybe he’s just not picking up the pitch quickly enough anymore…..Hand speed is gone…..
Two signs school is out for the day.
Quoting stats without any context. Why don’t you do this…..
Take Melky Cabrera’s season numbers and compare them to EVERY CF in the AL. You will be surprised how high he is on the list.
Also, factor in his defense. He saved the game yesterday with his catch in CF.
Yes, the Royals would love to trade their closer for him. That makes perfect sense…..in the video game world.
Definitely two sure signs school is out for the day.
“We rank 25th in the league in bullpen. That is awful.”
First of all, look at the splits between April and May/June. The bullpen was awful in April, not so awful in May/June.
Secondly you are overrating how important the bullpen is to a team’s success. With the kind of starting pitching the Yankees have a lockdown bullpen isn’t that important; especially in the regular season.
Patience! We have Bruney, Marte and Melancon on the way. That’s THREE impact arms. Contributions from those 3 will be a lot more important than any trade Cashman makes.
Our bullpen has been awful. Awful. 25th in the league is really unarguably awful, and getting Bruney and Marte baack may or may not help since both are coming off injuries and we don’t know how well they’ll do.
Patrick, if we had a good, not great, bullpen we’d be almost 20 games over 500 and running away with the division.
Depending on two guys who have been hurt all year, and rookies, in front of Mo is not really the recommended strategy for a great bullpen.
Lots of things have to fall right for that to work out.
That’s why its more likely they add another bullpen arm via trade at some point in the season.
Not to mention I like Melancon but there’s no way of knowing how a rookie pitcher will do in NY.
We need a trade.
“Twice Matsui has gone cold and people have called him finished, then he went on a hot streak and all of a sudden he’s doing fine.”
Did I call him finished?? No. But he is what he is at this stage of his career: A .260-ish hitter, who can’t field, can’t run, and has spotty power. Then again, after this year, he may truly be finished, unless some team wants to take a flyer on very damaged goods.
SJ44, I agree 100%.
ZMAN7777, I do agree that this may be Matsui’s last year.
SJ44,
It’s fair to look at a player’s splits. You did the same when Swisher was slumping hard. HOWEVER the person quoting his stats over the last 20something days is neglecting to mention that he missed several days with a shoulder injury.
That being said I’m not worried about Melky, in fact I’m pleasantly surprised at the production he’s given us. He’s still working the count and driving the ball in key situations. His fielding is also excellent.
My guess is Melky will end up being around .280/.350/.400 or something like that. For an above-average CF that’s a fine line.
Houston street closes out the game in 7 pitches.
“What are we going to do with Matsui when we play 9 games against NL teams on the road?”
I’m thinking we marinate him overnight and make shiskebobs. Seriously, he’ll get some rest and maybe the knees will feel better.
Yankees bullpen era by month:
April: 6.46
May: 4.04
June: 2.35-only 6 games so far.
The bullpen was awful in April, heck, most off the pitching staff was; however, since April they have been decent.
IMHO — It’s definitely his last year in pinstripes.
Matsui needs more days off. He shouldn’t be playing everyday with his knees.
Melky has been a shock to me. I still like Gardy, I just had no idea Melky would be doing this well. He proved me wrong.
In my humble opinion,
Relax with the nonstop 1 line posts dude. Read what we have to say then respond. As I said, look at the splits between April and May/June. The bullpen isn’t as awful as you think.
Brandon.. “Jus get ‘em out”
June 8th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
“Melky value is an alltime high right now it wont stay this high. I would trade Melky to Kansas City for Joakim Soria”
If Kansas was stupid enough I’d do it in a heartbeat, only 3 cutters in baseball that I respect, Mo, Halladay and his.
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So who do you replace Melky with, Matsui?
jennifer
June 8th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Why is Mike so intent on burying Mo already. It seems everyone is ready to throw dirt on Mo. I am so sick of it. It really started in 2003 or 2004 when he blew those back to back games to start the season against the soxs. Enough already!
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When dirt is thrown on Mo, he follows the example of his mentor:
He rises
Make a play for Street. He’s just about the only good arm on the market as of now.
Patrick,
Melancon is not an impact arm. He’s a rookie. He may be an impact arm at some point. However, to call him an impact arm now is overstating it.
Damaso Marte also isn’t an impact arm. We hope he is but, let’s be honest, he hasn’t pitched well as a Yankee.
You can’t expect every starter to go 7 every night to protect the pen.
The bullpen isn’t good. It can definitely be better IF Bruney, Marte and Melancon pitch well.
However, to think its a foregone conclusion they will is optimism at the highest level.
I’d still add another bullpen arm because its unlikely those 3 guys are going to be the difference in the pen for various reasons.
Tom in N.J., a 4.04 bullpen ERA is really bad, it just looks better because April was so bad. And this caller who just said Joba is a bad starting pitcher is a moron.
Where are you getting your crystal ball 20 games over .500 with a better bullpen nonsense?! The bullpen is NOT “awful”, if you want to be overdramatic and reactionary you can call it awful. A work in progress it absolutely is and full of question marks it absolutely is, but awful is way off base. Awful is the Washington Nationals’ bullpen. You want to quote your “25th in the league” stat all day, fine, but the fact is that that stat is not the be all, end all. Lately the performance out of the ‘pen has been better simply because they have been overshadowed by good starting pitching.
The Yankees have the arms to make that work until they can find more answers out there. As that happens (the starters keep going deep into games and the bullpen gets fortified), the statistics will even out and the ‘pen’s ranking will probably drift closer to the middle of the pack.
Patrick, I read the splits that Tom posted and I’m very unimpressed. I think SJ has it right.
“So who do you replace Melky with, Matsui?”
Nobody KC ain’t trading him. Unless you sending them Philip Hughes. Which so ain’t happening.
what are you morons complaining about today? did someone actually request we go after houston street? wonderful-so happy you are not making any decisions for the team.
SJ I don’t care about Melky’s defense at all. I can just as good or better from Brett.
Melky overall 50 games, 171 pa, .303 ba, .355 obp, .465 slg,
.820 ops, 13/23 bb/k and 23 runs.
Last 28 days.
21 games, 80 pa, .270 ba, .295 obp, .392 slg, .687 ops,
3/11 bb/k and 8 runs.
I think this is enough to say the bloom is off.
Joba to the pen clowns make me laugh so hard
I never knew there were so many idiots out there
“Melky has been a shock to me. I still like Gardy, I just had no idea Melky would be doing this well. He proved me wrong.”
He’s proven all of us, so far, it’s too early I want to see if this is him or does he revert, he’s been sick Close/Late
Andrew, a 4 ERA is bad but looks prettier because a 6 ERA is, to use Mike’s words, atrocious.
I’m sorry, our bullpen is really bad. I absolutely believe we’d be like 20 games over 500 with a good pen. Our only consistently good arms are Mo and Aceves.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Patrick, if we had a good, not great, bullpen we’d be almost 20 games over 500 and running away with the division.
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Easy to say….
Find me those ten games…
In my humble opinion (“And Matsui beat the wrap!”)
June 8th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Tom in N.J., a 4.04 bullpen ERA is really bad, it just looks better because April was so bad. And this caller who just said Joba is a bad starting pitcher is a moron.
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Yeah I just heard that caller, Joba has the second lowest ERA in the starting staff. The dumbest point he made was if Joe Torre was still the manager Joba would be in the bullpen. Please that decision is more of an organizational decision than the manager.
“Make a play for Street. He’s just about the only good arm on the market as of now.”
His stock just went up, your gonna get heist if you deal right now.
I’d love to get Houston Street, but Cash would have to pull off a great deal so as not to sacrifice too many good prospects.
Maybe they can DL Matsui during that 9 game/11 day stretch of road NL games and bring up a more versatile player. He might be able to use the break to be stronger later, and it wouldn’t be that much of a stretch to claim that he is injured. Then again, they would lose a valuable pinch hitter, but I can’t see them actually starting him in the outfield at any time this year, let alone 2 weeks from now. IDK, just thinkin’.
SJ44,
Marte hasn’t been good as a Yankee because he’s been injured. After Girardi overused him last year his shoulder was sore and he was ineffective for awhile. This year he hurt his arm in the WBC and has been crap ever since. A healthy Marte will help the team a lot.
We can agree to disagree on the Melancon thing, I guess I’m just higher on him than you.
The bottom line is, as Tom posted, the bullpen had a 4.00 ERA in May and so far has a 2.35 ERA in June. That is not bad at all. Add in Bruney/Marte/Melancon and the pen goes from being “okay” to being “very very good”.
Saying that the Yankees NEED to make a move is extremely extremely premature. If, in a month, Melancon still hasn’t taken the next step, Marte is still hurt/ineffective and Bruney is still chillin on the DL then I’ll agree with you. In the meantime? There is still time to see what we’ve got.
STUFF ON SWISH: Nick Swisher has 11 homers. He did not get to 11 last season until June 30. He has hit right of his 11 homers left-handed.
Yea Pete…way to never proofread anything you type.
I don’t see Cashman making a move for another arm out of the bullpen unless Bruney and Marte can’t come back and be somewhat effective.
Now, would I like to see us add another QUALITY arm to the bullpen, of course. But let’s face it, these guys don’t grow on trees, which is why you see so many teams, not just the Yankees, having issues with the bullpen.
I guess the issue then becomes what the Yankees would be willing to sacrifice to bring in another quality arm to solidify the pen, and I can’t see Cashman giving away anything of substance to bring in a middle reliever.
Should be interesting.
Brandon.. “Jus get ‘em out”
June 8th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
“So who do you replace Melky with, Matsui?”
Nobody KC ain’t trading him. Unless you sending them Philip Hughes. Which so ain’t happening.
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Sorry Brandon I thought it was you proposing that trade. My mistake.
A 4.04 bullpen era would be good enough for fourth in the A.L.
Yet what, you choose to ignore the downward trend in the bullpen’s ERA since April and just round it all together at 4? You just do your averaging and you’re done, eh? Great work, after all it’s not like baseball is a game in which performance trends are of any importance. In my humble opinion, the bullpen will keep improving as the starting rotation keeps improving (meaning, Wang regaining his form and Burnett putting a hot streak together). You add in some rehab guys and maybe increase the exposure of a D-Rob or a Mark Melancon and maybe things click. If not, there is always July trading.
Stuckey, where do I look? I’ll try.
OBVIOUSLY I can’t prove it, just like you can’t prove that we wouldn’t be w/a good pen. Off the top of my head, games totally blown by the pen, I can think of the Royals game, Opening day, A.J.’s game vs. the Sox, Joba’s start vs. the Sox at Yankee Stadium, Coke’s HR in that one Rays game, the other day when Coke came in and gave up 2 more runs, Tomko vs. the Phils, and that one Indians game not too long ago with Coke and Robertson.
8 seems pretty good.
Caller: I got a good trade
Fatcessa: Ok, lets hear it
Caller: The Mets FO has been patient w/ Reyes too much and maybe it’s time to trade him, What about Reyes for Hanley Ramirez
lol 27
No, its not “fair to say” the bloom is off.
How many of Melky’s hits have won games for them this year? Funny, how you conveinently leave that out of your “analysis”.
Only Tex has gotten more big hits so far this year.
Have you watched Brett Gardner play defense this year? Melky is MUCH better defensively than Gardner. Its not even close.
Quoting numbers without any context isn’t analysis. Its reading stats incorrectly.
Arod isn’t yet hitting to Arod levels. Yet, only a fool would argue he hasn’t had any impact on the lineup.
Melky Cabrera has been one of the 3 best CF’s, both offensively and defensively, in the AL so far this year.
Brett Gardner isn’t even in that conversation.
No, the bloom is not only NOT off Melky’s “rose”, he’s been one of the best players on the team so far this year.
Is Molina coming back this week or next week? It’ll be interesting to see what they do with Cervelli. With Montero and Romine in the minors, I wonder if one of them will be traded.
Hope its not Cervelli
“Sorry Brandon I thought it was you proposing that trade. My mistake.”
It’s cool.
I completely agree with SJ aboutthe pen. He has the right idea.
A 4.04 bullpen era would be good enough for fourth in the A.L.
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Ummm, for some people here, you’re just proving their point.
4th is 400% away from first!!!!
Unacceptable!! lol
“Hope its not Cervelli”
Romine can call a game too. And his bat >>>>>> Cisco’s
Look at it this way. Who do you trust besides Aceves? Who has been that consistent?
Montero I heard is the man. A wicked bat.
LOL the team is in first place and callers are calling the wfan that Girardi might not be the right manager for this team.
“Montero I heard is the man. A wicked bat.”
Wicked ? No no no no..ATTROCIOUS ! JUST ATTROCIOUS !
Patrick,
I’m high on Melancon. However, to say he is an “impact arm” right now is premature.
You made my point about Marte and Bruney. Both guys have been hurt for most of the year. Its tough to depend on bullpen arms that are either hurt a lot or too young in a pennant race.
If you look at the last 6 losses the Yankees have had, the bullpen blew all of them. It is the shakiest part of the team. I don’t even think that’s in debate.
Sure, IF Marte, Bruney and Melancon become “impact arms”, its less of a problem.
I’m saying, its unlikely all 3 guys will reach that level and that will necessitate outside help (via the trade route) to upgrade the pen.
JJ that’s why being in first place is bad, we should be in last.
I agree with Brandon. Please never use the word “wicked” on a yankees blog
I agree with Brandon. Please never use the word “wicked” on a yankees blog
This is the game I was talking about. Nice K-Rod, nice.
http://oakland.athletics.mlb.c.....0&v=2
SJ44,
I agree with you Melky is a better fielder. Watching the two guys he just looks better out there but the fact is they have very comparable defensive stats. They both have a UZR/150 of around 20.
I think Gardy and Melky are both comparable fielders, except Melky has a better arm.
“Would be a perfect time to give him a day off, yet another blunder by Joe.”
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Major Strasser: You give him credit for too much cleverness. My impression was that he’s just another blundering American.
Captain Renault: We mustn’t underestimate American blundering. I was with them when they blundered into Berlin in 1918.
Let’s see how this bullpen does this week before annointed them “better”. The competition picks up and we will find out how they do in high leverage situations against good teams.
They were awful Saturday, and blew the game, against the Rays. Aceves and Mo, the two most reliable guys, were excellent yesterday.
So far, the pen has been poor against the Rays and Sox, the Yankees two biggest rivals for a playoff spot, this year.
Coke, Veras, Tomko and Robertson. Not exactly solid out there. Potential in Robertson. The other guys are shaky.
Hughes is a temp out there. Aceves and Mo are solid.
Its a shaky pen. Its going to have to be better whether that comes from within or outside the organization.
This week will probably tell us if the pen is up to the task or if they have to go outside the organization to add an arm.
let me make an adjustment to a previous statement…if you listen to francesca (for any other purpose than to get a laugh at the expense of a stupid person) than you are an idiot…
my point is, and has been for several weeks now, that it would be great if people would stop B&Ming about every stupid word that comes out of his mouth…I think most people here have figured out that he doesn’t have a clue and would be just as happy to go on living life without any evidence of his existence. at least I know I would…
Exactly SJ, exactly.
SJ44,
You can’t pin the last 6 ALL on the bullpen, that’s just not fair. Even if you could, over how many games did those 6 losses occur?
I have 3 very simple points about the bullpen:
1 – Since the end of April the bullpen has been a LOT better. The splits Tom posted says it all.
2 – Not only is the bullpen performing better over the past month+ we have 3 POTENTIALLY impact arms on the way. You can’t argue that Melancon/Marte/Bruney won’t improve the pen at least a little.
3 – The value of a good bullpen is highly overrated. Even with a supposedly weak bullpen this team is playing at an extremely high level. Also with Wang now in the mix we have 4 guys that should be pitching a ton of innings.
Look, I will definitely flip my opinion if the BP is still blowing too many games in July, but right now it is way too premature to say we definitely need an arm from outside the organization.
Patrick,
That’s why I don’t put much stock in defensive ratings. Brett Gardner gets horrible jumps on balls. He has all year.
Regardless of ratings, and there is a lot of dispute in the baseball community on the validity of the ratings, Melky is clearly a better defensive CF. He’s not as fast but, gets better jumps and has a much better arm.
Trade Melky now while he have value or watch him implode.
Melky’s arm has been very much inaccurate all season.
Even waiting 1 week is too premature SJ44. Wait 2-3 weeks after Bruney and Marte are back. If they are still struggling after a few weeks or reinjured then I’ll agree we need to make a move. That still leaves about a month for Cashman to make a trade before the deadline.
The bullpen is awful.
We’re fortunate it hasn’t hurt us more to this point than it has. We cannot continue the entire year like this relying on rookies, unproven guys, and proven mediocrity like Veras/Tomko to save this pen. And with Bruney’s elbow, you can never 100% count on him.
If you play with fire enough, you will get burned.
Tex had a terrible start at the beginning of the year. Now he’s on a hot streak. We keep him and he’ll implode, so trade him while he has value.
Same logic used w/Melky.
Why is Veras still on this team?
Kevlar, I agree.
“Brett Gardner gets horrible jumps on balls. He has all year.”
Any truth to the rumblings I have heard that the outfielders are having a very difficult time picking up the ball, at least in day games? Even with this, Gardner does seem to get worse jumps than the other CF in the league.
I hope Cervelli doesn’t get traded either, but as someone said in here earlier (maybe on the Cervelli thread), his trade value is probably as high now as it ever has been. Where his trade value goes from here probably depends on whether the major league pitchers figure him out. I certainly think he will be a major league catcher somewhere.
I don’t know much about the other catchers the Yanks have in the minor leagues. Can they call a game like Cervelli? Do they have his arm? His spirit? His confidence? His bunting skills? His intuition for running the bases and for the game in general?
I thought Gardner has done fine, he just doesn’t have the arm.
outfielders are having a very difficult time picking up the ball, at least in day games”
I meant that to be in the new Stadium.
Melky’s confidence at the plate can be seen in his eyes. He doesn’t seem intimidated by any pitcher.
I wouldn’t mind trading Cervelli since we have tons of minor league catching depth.
OBVIOUSLY I can’t prove it, just like you can’t prove that we wouldn’t be w/a good pen. Off the top of my head, games totally blown by the pen, I can think of the Royals game, Opening day, A.J.’s game vs. the Sox, Joba’s start vs. the Sox at Yankee Stadium, Coke’s HR in that one Rays game, the other day when Coke came in and gave up 2 more runs, Tomko vs. the Phils, and that one Indians game not too long ago with Coke and Robertson.
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Burnett left that game in the 5th trailing 8-6. The Yankees never tied Chamberlain’s 12k game against Boston. And you can’t pin one run loses (Cleveland and Phils) on the bullpen (Posada’s and Teixera’s DPs were bigger factors.
The Yankees would have won more games if their bullpen gave up less runs. That’s a given. But you can say the same about the starters as well.
The point is, over a 162 marathon, very few baseball teams click on all cylinders at the same time. 1998 isn’t going to happen again for a LONG time.
ALL baseball teams are going to have good months and bad months in certain areas. The bottom line is the Yankees have balanced that out enough to have the 2nd-3rd best record in the game.
Melancon wouldn’t be first highly touted pitcher to not dominate immediately.
Expecting him to be some kind of prime contributor is kind of foolish. He should be treated as a wild card, not like he is a proven commodity.
Longoria is at third tonight, got to make him move!
Patrick,
Look back at those 6 losses. Walks to hitters batting under .200. Coke being unable to get lefty hitters out. Robertson being unable to throw strikes. Mo’s blips. Most of those losses have been on the pen.
My point is, you are asking a lot to expect a rookie who in his first shot in NY put on 10 of the 18 baserunners he faced, and two guys who have been injured all year, will be the guys to improve the pen.
Could it happen? Sure. Is it likely? I don’t think so.
I hope I’m wrong and those 3 guys are lights out.
I still believe they will an bullpen arm at the deadline because there is no way Cashman is going to let the season go down the tubes if the pen isn’t better than it is right now.
the more gardner plays, the more he is exposed. melky is the team’s mvp so far, what more does he have to do to get some love on here?
Gardner has more range than Melky in the outfield. The catch Melky made yesterday was a great catch but Gardner could make that catch and wouldn’t have left his feet. Melky has the much better arm. I think they are both good outfielders. The outfield defense is best when they are both in the outfield at the same time.
Stuckey, I can’t blame them on the pen totally, of course not, but those were games we had every chance of winning until the bullpen blew.
And you can say the same about the starters, I did that specifically because you asked me.
“Major Strasser: You give him credit for too much cleverness. My impression was that he’s just another blundering American.
Captain Renault: We mustn’t underestimate American blundering. I was with them when they blundered into Berlin in 1918.”
Written by? That’s right. Theo Epstein’s Grandfather and Great Uncle.
Blew IT. Sorry.
I refer of course to Casablanca, screenplay by Julius J. and Philip G. Epstein.
Melancon is not Joba.
Joba was a rare talent. A guy who could come in and blow everyone away with 98 MPH heat with a devastating slider and great command in a short stint.
Melancon’s stuff is much different and he is a more of a pitch to contact guy with that sinking FB. It isin’t fair to think Melancon will dominate immediately like Joba did.
You’d rather have Gardner as your everyday CF than Cabrera?
The key to the Yankees have a lockdown bullpen is Street…..Cashamn should be making a play for him soon, before the contending teams like Tampa come knocking on the door…Of course the price will go up…..He’ll be a sought after commodity, and will cost some young talent…However he pushes the club that much closer to the finish line in late October….
SJ44,
Again, you can’t blame those 6 losses solely on the pen.
Why are you stuck on Melancon? We are getting our two best setup pitchers back from the DL. Anything Melancon contributes is a bonus.
Also can you really argue that Melancon will pitch worse than Brett Tomko or Jose Veras?
I understand that you want to improve the pen but what’s with the urgency? Why give up valuable minor leaguers until you’ve exhausted all the in-house options? hasty hasty
The Yanks are playing great ball right now and there are 3 guys on the way that, if things go well, could have a huge impact on the pen. Why not wait to determine that we must make a trade?
Doreen:
Regarding your ealerier observations of the Lace/Cellulite ad on the blogpage…
I had a chance to really look at the cellulite pic in the upper right hand corner and must inform you that those are the legs of one of the Lace women, just pre-Photoshop.
“I wouldn’t mind trading Cervelli since we have tons of minor league catching depth.”
I don’t know about that. Maybe not a starter but he’d make a great back up catcher.
Patrick,
That’s why I believe Cash will wait until the deadline to make a move. He will give the guys a chance to get it going from within. The prices also drop as you get closer to the deadline.
Either way, the pen is going to have to be better for the second half of the year.
As far as Melancon, I think he has the chance to be special. However, he hasn’t pitched that consistently in Scranton. Until he gets going down there, looking for him to come up to NY and be an impact arm is premature.
Personally, when he gets the his next shot, I’d rather he be used in low leverage situations for awhile to get his feet wet.
I don’t like throwing rookies into the fray right out of the gate. That rarely works.
In the meantime, Girardi can still juggle the pen by working the hot hands and hope the starters and offense continue to do their jobs.
Make no mistake though, these guys have to pitch better against the good teams if they are going to keep their jobs.
This team is too good to let bullpen issues derail it.
They aren’t shy about making moves. They have already remade it from Opening Day.
I think they have another remake, aside from Bruney and Marte coming back, during the year.
Can we win with this bullpen? Sure we could
Is it a good idea to go to to war with this pen, when we have so many chips, have one big weakness, and there is a good market for relievers at the deadline? Absolutely not.
A team that spend $420 million this winter and has one glaring weakness should not just neglect this pen where there IS help out there. You are walking a very tight rope with this pen. This has the makings of a special team, much different than in previous years. Why would you want to short change it by not addressing the pen?
Dave21, I totally agree.
murphydog: I did not know that. Oh well, I don’t blame the elders for the sins of the younger.
Patrick,
I’m not saying make a trade now. I’m saying to depend on Marte and Bruney staying healthy and pitching effectively, along with Melancon, is unlikely.
I’m more than willing to wait until the deadline to make a deal. I just believe they will.
I don’t believe they believe this bullpen, even with Bruney and Marte back, is good enough to hold up all year, that’s all.
“Longoria is at third tonight, got to make him move!”
bunt like the dickens
Dave21…..I agree, they’ve come this far and almost have a team that can really win the World Series….Cashman’s tail is on the line here make no mistake so I do expect for him to upgrade the pen….
This year at the deadline, the majority of teams are going to be chasing high-end pitching (Lee, Oswalt, Bedard, Peavy etc.) or high end hitting (V-Mart, Johnson, Holliday, Dunn, etc.).
There will be a pretty big market for relievers. How many teams have relief pitching as their top priority? Probably us, Angels, and Rays.
Look back at those 6 losses. Walks to hitters batting under .200. Coke being unable to get lefty hitters out. Robertson being unable to throw strikes. Mo’s blips. Most of those losses have been on the pen.
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Who else do you want the loses to be against? They are going to be either against the starter or bullpen? Is one preferable to the other?
During that stretch of 6 loses they have won 18. How much better do you expect them to play?
What’s an acceptable loss in a stretch of 24 games of .750 ball?
Lose those 6 games by 2-1 scores and the offense is lacking.
Lose those 6 games 7-5 with the starter taking the loss and the rotation isn’t good enough.
Teams are going to lose games.
Of the last 6, two of the loses were by the starter. One of them is because the greatest closer of all time had a bady day. Two of them were because the bullpen gave up 1 run.
I mean bullpens are going to gave up some runs. Even the good ones.
Pat M
June 8th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
The key to the Yankees have a lockdown bullpen is Street…..Cashamn should be making a play for him soon, before the contending teams like Tampa come knocking on the door…Of course the price will go up…..He’ll be a sought after commodity, and will cost some young talent…However he pushes the club that much closer to the finish line in late October….
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Do you think Tampa will take on that contract?
And is it even a lock that Joba goes to the pen in the playoffs?
What if Andy has a 5 ERA this year and Joba continues to improve and becomes our 2nd or 3rd best starter?
Brandon.. “Jus get ‘em out”
June 8th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
“Melky has been a shock to me. I still like Gardy, I just had no idea Melky would be doing this well. He proved me wrong.”
He’s proven all of us, so far,
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Speak for yourself, bro
Huston Street would be a pefect fit. You need someone with experience as the the setup guy to Mariano that could close when you need to rest Mo. I like Bruney a lot but you cant count on him he has elbow problems. By adding Street you can slot down Robertson, Aceves and Coke and the whole bullpen would be much stronger and deeper.
bodhi, you have been the only steady Melky supporter I know of.
All this said I still like Gardy a lot.
“murphydog: I did not know that. Oh well, I don’t blame the elders for the sins of the younger.”
Fair enough. But they sure don’t write them like this anymore:
“Rick: And you never will. But I’ve got a job to do, too. Where I’m going, you can’t follow. What I’ve got to do, you can’t be any part of. Ilsa, I’m no good at being noble, but it doesn’t take much to see that the problems of three little people don’t amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you’ll understand that. Now, now… Here’s looking at you kid.”
Cue the fog machine… the music rises
Okay, here is what I want to hear. For those “bullpen is like dynamite” crowd, name some Yankee players you’d be willing to give up to secure a bullpen arm?
Because if we only see names like Miranda, Duncan, “IPK”, et al, it will be telling.
Who are you willing to give up that will “hurt”?
Playoff bullpen
Rivera, Joba, Street, Bruney, Marte, Melancon, Hughes (as the long man like in 07).
I want to cry
Huston Street trade proposals. Let’s hear them…
Quick question. When Lace & Stiletto is having a contest where you can win “Free lap dances every hour on the hour”, does that mean one person wins and can have a lap dance every hour on the hour? Or is there one winner every hour?
I have no idea who Cash would offer. I’d like to get him but Cash would need to work a heck of a deal not to give away anybody too valuable.
Patrick and SJ44-
Of the last six losses, dating back to the Philly series, 4 have been attributed to the bullpen-Aceves, Coke, Tomko, and Rivera. Thats a record of 9-6 in the last 15 games with AJ and Andy charged with the other two losses. I’m not comfortable with this pen, as is, and certainly not optimistic that Bruney will be 100% the rest of the year.
SJ44- Who are your 3 best CF’ers in AL that you are thinking of? Hunter, Adam Jones and Melky? Where’s Curtis Granderson on that list?
Stuckey,
For me, anyone other than Hughes, Jackson, Montero is fair game
“Huston Street trade proposals. Let’s hear them…”
McAllister, Montero, Kontos for Street?
murphydog: probably my favorite all-time movie. One of the few I felt I *needed* to own on dvd. So many incredible lines…
Oops… meant Miranda instead of Montero. I’m not that crazy!
vin, no way you lose Montero.
Ill give them Kevin Cash, Edwar Ramirez, and Jose Veras
Okay vin, Miranda! Miranda.
All right then.
“Look back at those 6 losses.”
Sure. Let me preface this by saying that losing is a team effort, no one aspect of the team can be blamed for a loss.
*6/6/09 – Loss 7-9 vs Tampa*
Obviously we just saw this game, Rivera gave up 4 runs. However, Sabathia gave up 5 and the Yanks committed 2 very costly errors.
*6/3/09 – Loss 2-4 vs Texas*
This loss had nothing to do with the bullpen, they gave up 0 runs. You can’t score 2 runs and expect to win.
*5/31/09 – Loss 4-5 vs Cleveland*
Coke gave up 1 run in the bottom of the 9th for the loss. Don’t forget this was the game Pavano shut us down, and Hughes only went 5 innings. This loss isn’t solely on the bullpen, they did end up going 3.1 IP with only 1 run.
*5/26/09 – Loss 3-7 vs Texas*
A weak start by Joba, he only went 4 innings. That said, the bullpen did give up 4 runs over 4 innings which is unacceptable. Again the offense only scored 3 runs and vs Texas you can’t expect to win with only 3 runs.
*5/24/09 – Loss 3-4 vs Philadelphia*
Tomko gives up the winning run in the 11th. AGAIN the offense only scores 3 runs on 13 hits! Remember this was the game where Tex GIDP with men on 1st and 2nd no outs in the 10th?
*5/22/09 – Loss 3-7 vs Philadelphia*
Burnett went 6, Wang went 3 and gave up 2 runs. Again only 3 runs scored by the Yanks.
You can pin some of the blame for these losses on the bullpen but none of the losses except maybe the most recent are 100% the bullpen’s fault. Look at the runs scored in each of the last 6 losses: 7, 2, 4, 3, 3, 3
I follow the idea that the better the starting pitching is, the better the bullpen will look. Along those lines, I ask:
Over the past month, how many ‘quality starts’ did the Yankees get in the losses?
I’m looking through the boxscores of Yankees losses since May 1 on baseball reference; checking to see in how many of those games did a Yankee starter match the criteria for a ‘quality start’ (however arbitrary that statistic is). In the 13 losses since May 1, there have been May 6 (AJ vs Rays) and May 24 (CC against Phillies). And I haven’t looked back over the game logs to see how the offense did in those 2 games.
To be honest, the bullpen doesn’t seem, to me at least, to be doing as much damage as people are saying, relative to the damage done by not so good starts. Admittedly, I haven’t looked at the boxscores for the wins, but in general I don’t look for stuff to complain about in wins.
Thats a record of 9-6 in the last 15 games
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Which is a pace of 97-65 over 16s games.
How much better do you want them to be?
Street still is signed for this year and next (though his arbitration number is probably going to be pretty high this winter) so Colorado doesn’t have to move him.
O’Dowd is a good GM, he isin’t going to get fleeced.
“I’m saying to depend on Marte and Bruney staying healthy and pitching effectively, along with Melancon, is unlikely.”
I’m not saying the Yankees should depend on them. I’m saying that they very well could come back and provide just what we need. I’m saying that it isn’t a foregone conclusion that Cashman will need to make a deal.
It could end up that we need a reliever from outside the organization. I’m not at the point where I think this is the case.
“Who are you willing to give up that will “hurt”?”
Phillies need starting pitching. If they would part with Ryan Madson, I could be talked into “possibly” trading Wang, who I think has been figured out by most opposing teams hitting coaches. Throw in Igawa!!! lol.
“O’Dowd is a good GM, he isin’t going to get fleeced.”
Exactly, which is why any trade for Street will HURT.
“Phillies need starting pitching. If they would part with Ryan Madson, I could be talked into “possibly” trading Wang, who I think has been figured out by most opposing teams hitting coaches. Throw in Igawa!!! lol.”
They’re not trading Madson as long as Lidge is blowing saves left and right.
Phillies aren’t trading Madson when Lidge is having problems, and Wang … really?
“Which is a pace of 97-65 over 162 games.
How much better do you want them to be?”
I predicted 103 wins pre-season, so I’d like them to be 6 games better. Thank you.
Ill give them Kevin Cash, Edwar Ramirez, and Jose Veras
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Thank you for playing our game.
For Street, I’ll put together a package using some combo of
McAllister, Kontos, Miranda, Robertson, De La Rosa
Obviously not all 5, I wouldn’t trade ZMac and De La Rosa in the same package either.
Preferably, I’d let them have Kontos/Miranda and any non-Melancon reliever we have. Don’t know if that will be enough though.
Why in the world would Philly, who has the 2nd best record in baseball, trade their stud setup man when their closer has already blown 6 saves?
Casablanca in 30 seconds:
http://vids.myspace.com/index......ID=5515904
“Why in the world would Philly, who has the 2nd best record in baseball, trade their stud setup man when their closer has already blown 6 saves?”
They wouldn’t.
I want all of our hitters to bunt towards Longoria first time through the lineup… including Tex, A-Rod, Matsui, and Posada.
He looked like he couldn’t even walk yesterday. Let’s expose his range.
LOL Did I hear right earlier? Did Kay say he’d pick Tex over Alex? Ooh Kay…………..
The Yankees did absolutely nothing against Sonnenstine the last time – he got through 7 in something like 70 pitches.
“Why in the world would Philly, who has the 2nd best record in baseball, trade their stud setup man when their closer has already blown 6 saves?”
You’re exactly right. They’d be better off trading Jimmy Rollins to get a good starter for their weak starting 5!
I predicted 103 wins pre-season, so I’d like them to be 6 games better. Thank you.
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They 4-2 in June. Play at that pace for the rest of the year and they will win… wait for it… 103 games.
You’re welcome
Wow, that Tampa bay lineup is stacked now that Longo is back.
Andy is going to be in for a long night. Joe has to bring in Hughes at the first sign of trouble. He can’t let the game get out of hand.
Watching the recap, I think Longoria looked gimpy but he pulled up because he was going to get thrown out.
I question the wisdom of playing him if he’s that hobbled. Could be a ruse!
As for mo on Saturday, if he was puking his guts out, he shouldn’t have pitched.
Since the topic du’jour yesterday was eyes, I have a quick trivia question.
Which Yankee had the prettiest, green eyes? I’m talking gemstone green. He’s not an active player, but he is alive and kicking.
McCallister, Kontos and Miranda for Street.
That’s what it may take.
SJ44 may tell me differently though. I hate when he does that.
Trader,
Philly is targeting big ticket pitchers like Peavy and Bedard and has some pretty good chips on their farm.
Unless you want to give up Hughes… we are not getting Madson.
Street is much more realistic. He is on a bad team that is in sell-mode.
I need the Yamks to hit 100 wins to cover my over / under wager…..
Girardi should think about switching Tex and Arod to try and get Arod going.
Not in a million years would I trade McAllister for Street.
Blog,
I would do that if that were the case.
Miranda and Kontos have little use to us. Kontos future is probably in the pen, Miranda has no position.
McAllister would hurt though. But if we can get a stud reliever like Street… 26 yrs old, AL tested, I’d do it.
McAllister?
No dice!
Patrick –
I think the Red Sox would spin Bowden for Street, if they needed the bullpen help.
Why wouldn’t we use McCallister?
Street gives us an 8th inning solution this year and next, and into the future, if signed long term.
McAllister is our best pitching prospect, I wouldn’t trade him for Street even straight up.
I’m off to watch Andy start for the 4th time this season. so far 3-0 in his starts.
Meeting Tracy and Hepburn under the banner.
You guys really think Colorado is giving up Street for some spare parts like Miranda (and they have Helton at 1st and nobody is taking his contract), Kontos, Veras, Robertson etc?
O’Dowd will laugh and hang up the phone. He doesn’t have to trade him now at all. And we’re not the only team who needs pen help and will be targeting him.
Unless Cashman is willing to give up something good, we’re not getting anyone good.
Blog Poster,
McAllister is our best pitching prospect and other than Kennedy he’s the only one close to the big leagues. I also value starting pitchers a lot higher than relievers. You can say the Sox would give up Bowden but you don’t know that. I don’t think they would.
Huston Street is overrated anyways. Wait a month for prices to come down and for more guys to become available (as more teams drop out of contention) then make a deal if necessary. With potential improvements coming along in Marte/Bruney/Melancon (i said potential damnit!) there is no reason to be impatient.
I don’t trust Andy at all tonight.
For those who wanted to see Hughes… we’ll probably be seeing plenty of him tonight.
I still think David Robertson could be a very useful part of the ‘pen.
McAllister’s stuff isn’t that great he is simply pitching well at the minor league level. Anyone heard of Ian Kennedy? Guys with marginal stuff who dominate 20 yr old ballplayers at A ball are not to be put in the untouchable category. Despite the numbers this kid isn’t Joba Chamberlain, heck he isn’t even Phil Hughes. If the right trade comes along I’d move him, the real gold is down at single A in Brackman/Betances.
Patrick, it just points out how over-rated a bullpen is. If you score runs and get quality starts chances are you are going to win a lion’s share of games.
There’s more than one way to skin a cat. The 90′s teams won with mediocre starters and high quality relievers. You can minimize the exposure of a mediocre bullpen when you are scroing runs and starters go deep.
I don’t see the necessity of making a trade. When Bruney and Marte come back, they can re-assess then.
SJ 44 what happens if the blowsox draft your nephew??
Saw mock draft that had him going to the sux, they obviously need some catching reinforcements………
Street is only 25 years old, already has 102 saves, and has a career 2.91 ERA/1.08 WHIP… most of it in the AL.
No, who needs that. We have Phil Coke!!
Kontos, Juan Miranda and De La Rosa I think would be enough to get Huston Street.
SJ, I completely agree with you on the pen. I don’t care about Melancon’s record in the minors – he’s a rookie and absolutely can not be relied upon (not in close games or even go give us good, low-leverage innings). He isn’t even pitching that well in AAA – no way do I bring him up now. I think Bruney and Marte will help, but it’s no guarantee, so another arm is needed. Unfortunately, I don’t have much faith that Street (or Bell or whomever) will come to NY and be able to handle the pressure. It’s one thing to close in CO or Oakland, another face pressurized situations (granted, not closing) in NY
Patrick, You make a good point in waiting…My concern is can the Yanks afford to give away too many games before then with the pen as it is….Even if Bruney return s to form, there still remains issues in the bullpen…..The addition of Street would give the club the best pen in the game….
Ernie: updates would be nice…
Street proved he could close in the big bad AL in his rookie season, he has nothing to prove as far as I’m concerned.
Street is overrated you guys or thinking about the Huston that made a splash when he came up, not the injury prone Huston that looked very average in his last couple of years in the AL. take a look at his numbers during his last couple of years in the AL they are not impressive at all.
Pat M, Patrick just illustriated to you how too few games they have lost because of their pen.
Patrick, great post. It seems to me that after almost every loss, you look back at an at bat where the offense doesn’t come through. I mean Tex has been outstanding, one of the losses Tex sat out after getting plunked.
My point is, the Yankees are winning series after series and even when they lose a game they are almost always in it until the end. Makes the limited losses easier to take, that said, a win tonight is important, keep a sleeping dog down.
You know I don’t like knocking one player to promote another. But to say that Melky is the better defensive player is just not true. Yes, there were a couple of games where Gardner misjudged balls hit right at him in the daytime and another where he dove and didn’t knock it down to a single. It is difficult to explain to people that the toughest thing for a CF is to pick up a line drive because of the background. But Gardner has a UZR of 21.8 and Melky is at 11.9. Now that’s according to Fangraphs, a reputable blog. So badmouthing Gardner is just that, badmouthing. Why do it? Why get carried away in hyperbole?
Melky is the same Melky, he didn’t get svelte this year and become faster. He’s playing much better, probably because of Gardner which is great for the Yankees.
Can anyone give me the low-down on Zach Kroenke?
25 year old lefty with a low ERA, who walks too many guys. That’s what I’ve gathered from his stats.
Does he project to being a ML reliever? What pitches does he throw?
Id take Bell over street any day, bell was great for the Mets and he seems like he can handle pressure from what people say, Street had a great rookie year but after that he was pretty average, and was hurt.
yeah I think Zack Kroenke is the bearded weird guy in The Hangover.
Street is a fastball / change up pitcher who throws in the low 90′s. If you guys are looking for the second coming of Joba or early Mo, it ain’t going to happen.
His stuff is no better than the rest of our pen.
David Ortiz was given eye drops for dry eyes on Monday, according to the Boston Globe.
Ortiz was given the drops upon completion of an eye exam. His vision, which is 20-20, checked out well. Ortiz had said that his eyes have been drying out, which makes it difficult to focus on the pitcher without blinking.
Source: Boston Globe
In my humble opinion (“And Matsui beat the wrap!”)
June 8th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
bodhi, you have been the only steady Melky supporter I know of.
All this said I still like Gardy a lot.
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I think Gardner can help us, too. But I think what’s been under the radar is that his defense isn’t what was advertised, and for whatever reason, people have not been able to “pick up” his bad jumps, which have really been a symptom of his outfield defense since I first saw him in AAA, and then last season. It’s like they’re so mesmerized by his speed, they can’t see how it often doesn’t serve his defense.
That continued through ST and this year. I guess the Yankees banked on his ability to outrun his mistakes, but he hasn’t really done enough of that. It has helped tremendously that the Yankees have seem to realize he doesn’t have the ability to play shallow at home and outrun balls over his head; he doesn’t get a good enough read to be able to do this, despite his blazing speed. Can he learn this? I hope so.
I’m also starting to think that people devalue getting a good jump because many can’t recognize it when it does or doesn’t happen.
I think Gardner’s approach to OF defense has to improve – I think you CAN learn to get better reads to a degree.
But I also feel that what’s known as “getting a good jump” is, to a degree, instinctive, just as having great speed is; it’s a neurological, therefore, inborn, response – like fast-twitch muscles – and it’s part of a defender’s toolset, just like a strong arm is.
I have found it incredibly ironic that a criticism of Melky has been his alleged “bad jumps” and “bad reads.” I have never understood where this comes from – except perhaps his nightmare baptism by fire in 2005, when he was a deer in the headlights. The fact is, he got it straightened out pretty quickly and hasn’t reverted; he’s always been a very good defender.
He isn’t Paul Blair off the bat, but he is supremely confident in CF in Yankee Stadium, plays the percentages there very well, and also happens to have good instincts about where the ball is going. He’s also a lot quicker than people realize, because his first couple of steps – his “take off” – get him moving in the right direction.
What the critics don’t understand is how vast that CF is.
If he were really mediocre, and couldn’t, as roundly speculated:
a). Get a decent jump
and
b). run, except at an average pace
He could not seal the gaps as he has for the last two years. He couldn’t even get to “go”, if those critiques were remotely accurate.
I guess people don’t remember – or choose to forget – what life was like in that outfield before Melky was summoned.
I know I spent many nights up in Section 1 – watching the backs of outfielders as they haplessly got swallowed into the gaps, running toward the wall, to fetch balls that a real CF, and athletic, younger COFers – would have had a play on.
We’ve had crummy pitching, no question, since after 2003, but there are plenty of flyball pitchers who survive admirably when balls are hit in the air – because they enjoy competent OF defense. Not so with us in those years – our pitchers sucked and our OF defense provided no redemption.
I do agree, BTW, that an OF defense with Melky AND Gardner trumps the alternative – at least on our team. Gardner has speed, some athleticism, and youth that helps the defense. He’s also very good at going coast to coast. His trouble comes on balls hit behind him.
Unfortunately, you never will know how a pitcher will perform in NY until they come here and do it.
I don’t think you can look at the markets or big games they pitch and try and quantify it from afar. Last year at this time, AJ Burnett was the last person I thought would be a “NY” type guy. He seemed kind of prickly, always hurt, he was from the deep South, pitched in small markets etc.
Yet after hearing him speak at the press conference and reading his stories in Spring Training, you can clearly see he has a NY mindset even though he has never pitched in a big market/game before. He just has “it”.
Cashman just has to talk to people in the league and try and gauge the pitcher’s mental makeup.
Bo knows
June 8th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
You know I don’t like knocking one player to promote another. But to say that Melky is the better defensive player is just not true. Yes, there were a couple of games where Gardner misjudged balls hit right at him in the daytime and another where he dove and didn’t knock it down to a single. It is difficult to explain to people that the toughest thing for a CF is to pick up a line drive because of the background. But Gardner has a UZR of 21.8 and Melky is at 11.9. Now that’s according to Fangraphs, a reputable blog. So badmouthing Gardner is just that, badmouthing. Why do it? Why get carried away in hyperbole?
Melky is the same Melky, he didn’t get svelte this year and become faster. He’s playing much better, probably because of Gardner which is great for the Yankees.
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I agree Melky makes mistakes in the outfield too. The game against Texas in the ninth he dove and missed and the ball got behind similar to Gardner’s mistake. Also Melky has a habit of missing the cutoff man.
I think they are bothing playing well Gardner’s hitting has improved greatly and Melky keeps getting clutch hits.
Too funny that Judge Millian from the People’s Court presented Mo with an engraved gavel for use in Kangaroo Court.
Melky’s the man. I agree with Michael Kay’s lineup with Matsui on the bench, Gardner in CF and Swisher as DH.
Truth is the DH, more than ever can be shared by a lot of guys getting a half day off like Jorge or Alex. Matsui should learn how to be an outstanding pinch hitter.
Bell did well for the Mets?
In 05, he had a 5.59 ERA and in 06 he had a 5.11 ERA.
He couldn’t wait to get out of NY and admitted such.
Bell is the type of pitcher we should stay away from. 32 yrs old, entire career in the NL, and thrived in the NL West.
“going into Peter Gammons national park 1 game ahead would be awesome….
lmao….made me spit out my coffee, thanks i needed that
YES Clubhouse Report audio with Bob Lorenz and Kim Jones:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61121334e47dce40/
mlb.com front page says that Yankees could go into Boston up by a game with a win. But a loss puts Boston in first. I’m like really? Boston all alone in first place? I can’t stand irresponsible journalism.
A bullpen of
Rivera
Melancon
Bruney
Marte
Aceves
Coke
Robertson
can win a championship easily
well whatever, they all think that the Yankees are will remain best team in AL (East)
Square 1,
Add Phil Hughes to your postseason bullpen roster.
Kay’s head looks twice as big as Cone’s.
It’s not a myth.
m: glad to see you’ve backed off of your previous stance.
No bullpen with Phil Coke playing a prominent roll is a good one
Juan Miranda is out of the mix with the Padres in a Heath Bell deal with Adrian Gonzalez locked in at 1st base.
The same applies in a deal with the Rockies for Huston Street. They’ll never be able to peddle Todd Helton and his albatross contract.
Cashman will need to do his best talking to keep good Yankee talent and still get either reliever.
I originally was thinking that we don’t need to go out and get anyone for the pen because Bruney/Marte will be back soon and we’ll have Joba there down the stretch and in the playoffs anyway because of his innings.
However, the more I think about it, Andy may not deserve to start a postseason game. You might have to tinker with Joba’s innings somehow down the stretch so he could have some excess ones available if he needs to start in October.
Sadly, I don’t see Andy getting better. He looks toast.
What? I’ve never said Cone’s head was larger.
But, I can’t stand listening to him butcher names. Even if it was matsuzaka.
I think you’re thinking of Beldar CONEhead. His head dwarfs Michael Kay’s.
The draft is 24 hours away. The Yankees are pegged to take Purke LHP, Heathcott RF/P, Jackson OF or one of many others. That is the compensation pick for not signing their pick last year. But if they don’t sign their pick this year they lose it. Boston drafts one slot ahead of us. Starts tomorrow at seven. Stay tuned.
On Ortiz:
I didn’t know HGH came in an “eye drop” dosage????!!!!
ESPN is just unbearable
Why does Dave Winfield get a Yankeeography before Bill Dickey?
Tom,
He deserves one… he is, after all, Mr. May. That’s pretty impressive.
I do believe that John Kruk took a few too many off the noggen….That entire exchange no-body mentioned the first place Yankees…..
“I can’t stand listening to him butcher names.”
Flaherty with Saltalamacchia was an adventure
Ha. When I was 5, I had a 2 gold fish: Dave and Winfield.
Kay=Eraserhead http://images.search.yahoo.com.....eraserhead
Tom in N.J.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Ha. When I was 5, I had a 2 gold fish: Dave and Winfield.
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Stump and Merrill are real manly fish names. You had sissy fish.
Evan Longoria at third? He looked like he would be going faster if he had a walker last night. Howver, I won’t underestimate him he is looking to be and will continue to be one of the best players in the game. I just feel like maybe the Rays are rushing him a bit. I am sure he will hit a homerun or something to prove me wrong for this comment.
Go Yanks
Pitch one is a strike! I’m calling it, game over, Yankees win, thuuuuuuuuh Yankees win!
It’s time for Sterling to complain about the home plate umpire. That was quicker than usual.
GO YANKEES!!!!!
Signed,
a really happy fan
That was quick. Go Andy. Loving the K.
pat,
It was bad. But they were pretty funny with the u-turn comment.
They are absolutely going to test Posada here. I mean Crawford has incredible speed he would steal on anyone but I am sure they want to see what Posada has.
With Crawford’s speed, he’ll get to 2nd base easily. Andy’s got a slow delivery.
That ump is so slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
I hope Andy is super vigilant tonight seeing that the Rays love to run and Andy has been run on before…
Oh GREAT. I was optimistic about the lineup until I saw old man Pettitte pitching. Boy is he at the end of his career. The only way we luck out and WIN is if Sonnanstine stinks even MORE than Pettitte!
The offense can’t be BAD today or we will lose. We are going to the pen early (oh great!)
DEBORAH
June 8th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Oh GREAT. I was optimistic about the lineup until I saw old man Pettitte pitching. Boy is he at the end of his career. The only way we luck out and WIN is if Sonnanstine stinks even MORE than Pettitte!
The offense can’t be BAD today or we will lose. We are going to the pen early (oh great!)
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This post screams OPTIMISM!
I have to believe that is a DEBORAH troll and not the real DEBORAH. As bad as she is, I seriously don’t believe she would say stuff THAT stupid…
Clearly, Andy is worried about the runner, as usual.
Oh GREAT. I was optimistic of this thread UNTIL I saw DEBORAH had returned.
That’s the best way for Pettitte to pitch around Pena. Don’t give him a chance to do damage.
Just got in from out.
murphydog – I guess photoshop is virtual lyposuction.
m – your comment about winning a lapdance every hour on the hour had me in stitches. I actually had a similar thought, except it was more like, why would someone want a lap dance every hour???
Now, to tune into the game.
Go Yankees!
Andy has been scared of baserunners ever since that steal of home.
Andy not looking good
Do you all think that’s the real DEBORAH?
Okay if you are the real DEBORAH who is your favorite player and what did you say Girardi must mean in Italian – and why.
First inning trouble again for Andy. Been his Achilles heel this year.
He’s too distracted by Crawford and it’s leading to bigger issues.
Didn’t Sonanstine own the Yankees last time? A 1-Run game I think?
At least he is close to the plate.
just get out of this Andy
If Ellsbury can steal home off Pettite, Craford can to.
Weird how Andy can look like he is cruising and then implode. Oh well, he always put on a lot of baserunners with minimal damage. I have faith.
Just got him! That was HUUUUGE
phew…
Nice play Jeter.
Chris Berman….ugh.
Look, it’s the Hobbitt in a Lotto commercial. I thought Pedroia was in Boston.
I bet Andy settles down after the Yankees put up a crooked number this inning.
Nice play, Jeet.
Girardi means idiot in Italian. lol What was Cervelli again?
Can anyone look up how many times the Yankees have played the Sox in which Boston has had an off-day before the series, and the Yankees have played?
It seems to have happened a lot in the past couple of years. Maybe I’m just paranoid/biased.
Reports of Jeter’s demise have been greatly exaggerated.
Not the real DEBORAH. She loves being in your face. She would have answered 20 times over by now – unless she’s outing because Andy got out of the inning.
Deborah is actually debbie downer from those SNL skits
outing should be “pouting”
Tricia, Just chase her away…….
Great play by Jete to save Andy.
Hughes may in this one tonight. If I was him, I’d be getting mentally prepared to pitch tonight.
Jeter’s just trying to prove that home runs aren’t that easy to hit towards right as people think.
Just watched Kim Jones’ Swisher interview. It is HILARIOUS!! You gotta watch it, she has it up on her blog.
TEX TEX TEX
Teixeira is a godsend.
Can we sign Tex again, just for kicks?
Tex!
Light-Tower-Power!
Texeria is just unreal right now
I like how ESPN just said the Rays have ATHLETES in their outfield. As opposed to the schmucks we are putting out there I suppose? hahaha. Also, go Tex!
Rex is amazing.
Pat M – maybe I did?
tex is the man…thats 3 hard hit balls so far against sonny
why did we sign tex???
glad Tex doesn’t have an opt out. This kid is fun to watch.
Tex is phenomenal…….
Hi everyone!
Tex for President!
Atta boy, Tex.
How about that great HR call by Berman? Classic, just like Mel Allen, eh? Jeeeeesh.
why did we sign tex???
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Hit balls. Catch balls. Boring stuff like that.
OT – I am not prone to physical aggression but if I could find the person who created foam packing peanuts, I think I could really hurt her or him!
GRRRR!!!
Erica, what is the status of your health? Are you all better?
Girardi is italian for IDIOT (which I stand by) and my favorite player is Melky (although I was harsh) and I have a retriever named Melky.
Also WHAT about my post was stupid? Is Andy not pitching HORRIBLY? Is Sonnanstine an ace or something? You people!
Andy will get it together
Go away, Deborah. You’re annoying.
Erica – newly OPPC June 8th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Hi everyone!
Tex for President!
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Hey Erica! Were you finally able to get out of the house today/feeling better?
I’ll play devil’s advocate: Tex tries to spark a rally with that nice dinger, and then A-Rod ends it.
Hernandez may have turned an ankle there. Looks like he came up hobbling.
Great play by ARod
Hi Trisha!
Yes, I am finally feeling a lot better. Thanks for asking!!!! I went back to work today. My tummy is even feeling better and I am starting to reintroduce myself to food. Did I mention I lost 4 pounds on the swine flu diet
Andy IS pitching HORRIBLY! Just look at the scoreboard! 1 hit! 0 ER’s. Madness…
Angel Berroa nailed it when he convinced Abner Doubleday to make the base paths 90 feet.
i wish we could ban deborah..shes nothing but a pain
AND MARK TEIXEIRA FIREBOMBS DRESDEN!!!
Deborah
Is the game over yet? Have we lost already? How do we ever win a game with Girardi at the helm ????!??!??!
DEBORAH June 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Girardi is italian for IDIOT (which I stand by) and my favorite player is Melky (although I was harsh) and I have a retriever named Melky.
Also WHAT about my post was stupid? Is Andy not pitching HORRIBLY? Is Sonnanstine an ace or something? You people!
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Does Bellevue know you are using the computer?
nice pitch Andy
Congrats Erica, most people only hear the bad stories.
Erica glad to hear you are feeling better.
What’s the over/under on Ernie updates tonight? I’m thinking 2.
How did my post get all weird like that?
Oh well, 1 more Andy
Baserunners in the first notwithstanding, Andy looks like he has good stuff tonight. What’s he got, 2,3 swinging K’s already?
GGBG June 8th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Deborah
Is the game over yet? Have we lost already? How do we ever win a game with Girardi at the helm ????! S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC June 8th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
DEBORAH June 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Girardi is italian for IDIOT (which I stand by) and my favorite player is Melky (although I was harsh) and I have a retriever named Melky.
Also WHAT about my post was stupid? Is Andy not pitching HORRIBLY? Is Sonnanstine an ace or something? You people!
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Does Bellevue know you are using the computer?
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I’ve been trying to find that out myself. I haven’t gotten an answer.
Haha. Thanks Jeff. Aside from the lost week of my life and the wasted vacation time (and the horrible sickness), I try to find the silver lining.. my pants are loose
Haha, wow. I’m watching this game on YES but I turn the channel to ESPN for one second, and the very first thing I hear is “wind currents.”
Woah. Erica, you had the swine flu? Is it just as bad as any other flu or what?
Thanks for coming tonite mr. pettitte
Yeah, no doubt about it. Pettitte has nothing. Strikes out Upton and Longoria, gives up a ground ball single to a .330 hitter, hits a guy that hits him, walks a batter and gets a soft grounder to short.
What? 2nd inning is a soft grounder to third, and only two more lousy strikeouts.
Much better inning from Andy
Thanks Jennifer. Did you ever make those stuffed tomatoes?
italics?
They made you use vacation time? Wow that stinks!
The blog decided to be italicized rather than bold tonight?
Ok, who let the brain dead idiots (joba to the bullpen drones no doubt) have access to the server?
Erica
Nope, was busy busy busy this weekend. Hopefully next weekend if I don’t go to Coney Island.
Serf- it really was just like any other flu. I coughed nonstop, had a fever for 6 days and no appetite (and a very weak tummy). The only real difference was that my doctor told me I could not leave the house under any circumstances.
Wow italics. Who knew? The only toy they left us with was bolding!
I actually had something similar to that in December. I threw up one night. Then I literally ate nothing for 4 days straight. Just water. I had no appetite. I had to go to the hospital because of breathing problems and they found no problems with me except for nonstop moving aka anxiety. Worst week of my life. :/
Jennifer-
I get 6 sick days a year, and unfortunately they all got used already (this has been an interesting year). So I had to start using vacation time to make up the difference.
Please let me know if you end up making them. I won’t be around this weekend cause I am seeing lots of Fleetwood Mac and watching the Yanks beat the Mets from Atlantic City (YAY!), but I am definitely curious about how they turn out.
And wow. Matsui could’ve rocked that pitch.
Matsui has gone totally cold. Going to be tough to bench him in the NL games but do you really want a virtual automatic out who also can’t field getting playing time.
I was curious:
Girardi Meaning: the descendant of Girard (spear, firm)
Ouch Serf-
Sorry to hear that!
SWISHAAAAAAA
Swishy!
That was Swishalicious.
Swish!
just love Chris Berman calling homers!
Woo Hoo Swish.
I really had a feeling that Swisher would get a home run here. I love it when I’m right.
SWISHAAA is on FII-AH!!!
AND NICK SWISHER GOES GUERNICA!!!!
SWISHALICIOUS!
when swish hits, he hits!
Gotta love that short, quick swing from Swisher.
That was a BOMB by Swisher
“Lisa from Whitestone = Worst caller ever”
is that actually an area? Or does she jus live under the bridge?
So who was the idiot earlier who said Swisher should be sitting? I’m sure someone complained about him starting.
They are teeing off on him, that is the third just miss homerun.
geez, alot of long balls tonite
I guess that Swisher heard Nady was close to coming back.
Finally we are hitting this bum, about time he has had two good starts against us this year
Thank god for the YES network. The thought of having to listen to Chris Berman all night is nauseating.
How are you listening to Chris Berman? What channel/station is that?
Where is that wind tunnel tonight? Melky & Jeter missing on flies to right.
Wilson Betemit and Jeff Marquez for Nick Swisher.
Any doubts ?
Neither Betemit or Marquez are on the White Sox 25-man roster.
Erica,
I had no idea you were so sick!
Glad you are feeling better.
probably under a bridge. I can’t stand her either
girardi has to sit matsui.
we are much better off with gardner in the lineup until matsui proves girardi wrong.
Deborah
LMAO @ You! Keep going about Swisher.
LOL!
The media keeps talking about how many HRs have been hit at the new park, but they never mention that 99% of them would have been gone in any other park as well. The new stadium isn’t the reason there are so many HRs hit there; bad pitching is.
That cracking sound alone was a no-doubter.
good maybe Girardi won’t have to really manage this game:)
Erica
The game is also on ESPN.
SWISHER IS A TANK!!!
Whitestone is a real nice area in Queens…
Swish is a cubist?
Thanks SJ44. I appreciate it. And I am glad too!
“Neither Betemit or Marquez are on the White Sox 25-man roster.”
Betemit couldn’t play an error free game so he got DFA’d. I don’t think Marquez was ever on the big club.
Laura
Totally right. Probably 4-5 of the homers were because of the stadium. Virutally every homer I have seen has been a no-doubt blast.
Erica,
Berman is on ESPN
Wow, Swisher is on pace for 35 HR and 117 RBI. And he’s our #8 hitter.
That shot by Swisher there and the one by Teixeira in the first show why those stats can be a tad misleading.
Yes, right field in this park has the propensity to be VERY rewarding to a hitter, but those aren’t cheap shots at all. A decent number of those homers are home runs in any park.
And Cabrera JUST missed one there.
nice TEX, just keeps getting better
Swisher is delivering for the Yankees.Even though Mo got the belt,hie stats said he was the man.
Just another very good defensive play by Tex.
How many runs has he saved already over the defense Giambi gave us the last few years? It seems like every game Tex makes a play or two that Giambi wouldn’t have made.
Girardi looking for a reason to get Hughes in this game.
I have the Extra Innings package, so I could watch the Tampa guys (Duane Staats), Kay and Cone, or ESPN with Berman. My cable company doesn’t carry Extra Innings in HD, so I’m watching Berman….
It stinks.
it’s Berman and Orel Hersh
I bet Pettitte picks off Crawford here.
GGBG,
no kidding! loved Jason, but just can’t cover as much ground as Tex
Crawford on 1st. This inning just got a little more difficult for Andy.
Whitestone > Rego Park?
John,
they’re not bad tonite
“Wow, Swisher is on pace for 35 HR and 117 RBI. And he’s our #8 hitter”
and just last week, 85% of this board wanted to relegate him to the bench
For those of you interested in draft info….
None, nada, zippo.
It seems that MLB is making a coordinated effort to give up zero info to anybody.
I talked to three other agents today and they haven’t gotten any info from MLB either.
We think MLB is going to try and bum rush the players with “take this offer or we won’t take you”, tomorrow.
They are making a big effort to not only not disclose slot numbers, but teams have told us they want to go under slot this year.
Hey, sorry to repost this. I put it up a few nights ago but didn’t get any answers. To whoever said use Anonymouse, unfortunately that didn’t work….
Basically I’m trying to access this site from work, but a few weeks ago the ‘Barracuda’ spam protection set up by the clinic’s IT dept blocked me from checking Lohud, as it was deemed social networking. I was able to get to it by proxy for a while, but then the filter blocked that effort because it had proxy in the title, apparently. Any idea how I can safely check the site from work without getting into any major trouble?
thanks for any ideas!
I liked Giambi a lot too. I even sported a fake ‘stache occasionally in his honor. But you can’t compare the defense at all. There were times Giambi would field balls, and I would just hold my breath that he wouldn’t get hurt on the play
“and just last week, 85% of this board wanted to relegate him to the bench”
And sadly they will again 7 or 8 times between now and October 1.
Coney talking aobut Andy getting into the HoF.
I love Andy and all but come on…he’s not a HoF’er.
John in Ohio – since I grew up sharing my toys as opposed to hoarding them, I have a toy I am willing to share. If you give me your email address, I will send you the information for my mlb.com account and you can watch the YES broadcast in high def.
its cause of the k’s but longoria doesnt look comfortable
Longoria has looked awful so far in this series. Makes you think what would have happened if Girardi had let Mo pitch to him on Saturday…
That’s incredibly generous of you Trisha.
jonnycat, I know we have some techies here but I am not one of them. If Miggs is around (also maybe raymagnetic) ask your question again if you haven’t gotten an answer. I’m pretty sure both of them are computer savvy.
Andy’s pitch count is high.He’s getting the out but using a lot of pitches.53 in top of 3rd already
Ridin this wave
It’s not just the range. All those hot shots, the throws to second…those are all hits or E’s…extra outs given to the opposing teams that they are not getting now.
Given that we had two phenomenal defensive 1b’s in recent memory (Tino and Donnie) it’s amazing that we forgot what it was like.
He’s a game changer. Every game.
“since I grew up sharing my toys as opposed to hoarding them, I have a toy I am willing to share”
I hope Nick doesn’t see this
: )
Ridin-
I actually think Hershiser is OK as a color guy. Berman, however, is not qualified to do play-by-play.
He got this gig because of his status at ESPN, not because he’s spent the required time honing the craft.
He’s terrible, but then, so is John Sterling, who has been at it quite awhile…..(sigh)
SJ
Bud’s version of a free market economy?
Tell the nephew to keep good thoughts and we’ll be keeping them for him too.
What’s slot number in terms of draft?
Serf, I feel like we are all Yankee brothers and sisters on this forum and what better gift could I give than the ability to watch our tremendous team!
Andy looks like he really has the good stuff tonight. 6k’s through 3? Wooo!
yeah. Pettitte’s washed up
Good job Andy!
wow 6 k’s for andy..thats dandy!…
Andy looks good today. Nice move by Girardi to switch him and Burnett.
Good job Andy!!
6k’s for pettite
As bad as John Sterling is, I tend to think of him as a senile, old grandpa. Definitely missing a few steps, but still warm and cuddly and I can’t imagine anyone else.
(Keep in mind, I only started listening to games on the radio when I was in high school in the mid-90s and Sterling is the only broadcaster I know)
vinny-b, interestingly enough Nick was one of the first people on this forum I let use my account. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. I think you have to be pretty “special” to trash someone who has been kind to you. But that’s me.
Well Trisha. I’m going on vacation in the coming weeks to North Carolina, which doesn’t have YES Network. I’ll bring brining my laptop there so uhhh…*cough*
(serf619@yahoo.com)
is it just me or did david cone just tell carlos pena to sit and spin?
trisha thanks. i figured someone around here knows how to get it through the filters at work. I’m still hurting from signing up for the mlb package, and then finding out i was blocked from all the games since I live in NYC. I don’t even have cable. What a rip!
Andy’s pitch count high, but he’s doing his thing.
Nice swings by all the hitters. “only” 2 found their way home.
Yesterday Girardi had his 200th win and Swisher hit the 100th homerun in NYS. Let’s keep adding to the totals.
serf, watch for an email.
What’s Damon’s walk-up music? It sounds so…non walk-up-ish.
vinny-b: not sure where you were going with that, but I have no specific reason to take offense at/comment on the referenced post.
DJ’s HOF induction will be as popular as Cal Ripken’s (not to get off the subject) but can’t imagine it not being a huge day for baseball
jonnycat, THAT stinks. Maybe you can ask for a refund?
GGBG
June 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Coney talking aobut Andy getting into the HoF.
I love Andy and all but come on…he’s not a HoF’er.
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Cone didn’t say that Pettitte was a HOFer. He was only comparing the career of Pettitte to HOFer, Herb Pennock. They are nearly identical. The main diiferences are Pennock having much more complete games and shutouts and half of the strikeouts.
“vinny-b, interestingly enough Nick was one of the first people on this forum I let use my account. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. I think you have to be pretty “special” to trash someone who has been kind to you. But that’s me”
what-up trisha. Didn’t realize you and him had history on this board. I was just making light of the ‘toy’ reference
Erica
Sterling is way over the top but I think he is a blast to listen to. He really brings life to the broadcasts and he has fun doing it. I’d much rather hear that then a boring dry broadcast (of course, I’d rather hear Vin Scully…but that’s a different story)
Haha. Thanks a lot. Unlike you, I never shared my toys. Maybe I’ll change now.
“Haha. Thanks a lot. Unlike you, I never shared my toys. Maybe I’ll change now.”
I think it’s called “paying it forward.”
Exactly GGBG! His homerun calls are sometimes borderline cheesy, but I have to admit- I call them along with him. And who doesn’t love belting out “THHHHHHHHHHHHHHHE YANKEES WIN”
The judge from “The People’s Court” was at the stadium before the game giving Mariano a judge’s robe and a real gavel. Now, he’s ready for the next Kangaroo Court.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=nyy
Jeter will turn *35* this month!!
Ridin this wave~
Derek Jeter’s Hall of Fame induction is going to be a very happy day in NY baseball.
Anyone else think that Ernie Palladino is like the substitute teacher who just shows a video and wants nothing to do with the students?
With the cast of characters here, who can blame him.
what ARod, is it the ball’s fault you didn’t have that play?
So is the plan to make errors for 19 games straight?
Ah, Trisha, I momentarily exist again! Whew!
Thank you for the umpteenth time for that kind gesture. Of course I was never able to actually utilize the account, but that doesn’t undermine the kindness of your act (which I still appreciate), nor does your subsequent hysteria and hostility.
“Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.” Now *that* is funny!
serf – when you’re one of six kids, toys are made to be shared! (plus I have to give my parents credit for teaching us that the best kind of gift is the one that is given as opposed to received.)
jay
June 8th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Jeter will turn 35 this month!!
*****
I still can’t believe he is getting that old. I still remember the first game of 1996. I raced home from school and turned on the TV and heard the new rookie shortstop hit a home run and I told my mom, “Derek Jeter is going to be an amazing player”. I love when I am right!
vinny-b, never mind then. I thought you were making reference to other things.
GO YANKEES!
oh boy, is Hughes up in the ‘pen….? lol
I have a hard time imagining anyone named Ernie that isn’t an orange muppet who lives with Bert
my bad. Not my intention to start trouble on the board.
didn’t know there was any history
Thanks Arod for the error run.
six errors in six straight games. what the heck is going on?
Selig is not the best Commissioner the game has ever had but he is making a concerted effort to advise teams to be careful with spending because of the economy without showing collusion.
In tomorrow’s draft, Scott Boras will get a reality check with his clients.
“Thanks Arod for the error run.”
He was ably assisted by Andy, who threw a wild pitch and moved the runner into scoring position.
go Yankees !!!
Trisha,
This is really, really awesome of you. Testing it out. But it says “Blackout Restriction” for the YES Network. Why is that?
“Selig is not the best Commissioner the game has ever had….”
That has to be the understatement of the year.
*just thought I’d make a bold statement*
he he he
Uh Oh
Come on, Pettite.
No problem, vinny.
And now that I get your original reference… uh, not going to go there.
ANDY PETTITTE IS A HARRIBLE PITCHAAAAAAAAA!
Tie game. Definitely think we will be seeing Phil this game.
really amazing….
Oh ANDY!!
“Selig is not the best Commissioner the game has ever had….”
better then Kennesaw Mountain Landis. Or whatever that racist’s name was
ughly…
Three runs would never hold up in this game. The Yankees need to open the floodgates with baserunners and get into the Rays pen.
Ugh! Pettitte! Team stakes you to a lead and you give it right back!
Yankees will come back and win..
pettitte giving up a home run? this is my surprised face.
I have a nasty feeling this could be one of those 19-15 type nights
Maybe I’ll try channeling Pel tonight, lol.
That should be pretty easy.
serf, are you in the NY market? If you are you cannot access Yankee games on mlb.com, the theory being that you are able to watch them on television.
When you are in NC you won’t have any problem.
Just God awful pitching to the bottom of the order. A HR to a .167 hitter to flush the lead down the drain.
He’s struggled all year to #8 and#9 hitters.
Gotta get Hughes ready and in this game.
_rats_
Angel –
Just a tiny bit of sloppiness with the error and the wild pitch can lead to lots of bad things. Happens all the time in baseball.
Pettitte needs a short visit to the DL to get himself straighten out and his back rested.
In a totally unrelated rant-
I hate paying my electric bill. No other bill bugs me as much as the electric bill. Credit cards- fine. I know I bought that stuff. Cable bill- no problem. I love my TV. But the electric bill drives me insane. What am I supposed to do? Not turn on the lights and the TV?????? ARGH!
Who wants to guess what bill I just paid
maybe Pettitte’s still trying to learn how to pitch in this new stadium.
6 strikeouts through 3 innings was/is a postive sign…
Not a good time for “bad” Andy to show up.
Or I could channel the fake SJ44.
You know, be REALLY novel – a fake fake SJ44.
Andy has not looked good at all for the past few starts.
this is really disappointing..please end this inning andy
Pettite has looked pitiful latley. Is he washed up?
We cant loose 2 outa 3 to this makeshift lineup and zero bullpen, we just cant!!
Great now a homerun to HGH. If the Yanks are going to have a pitcher only go 5 innings, why can’t that pitcher be Hughes? Seriously Andy is batting practice now that doesn’t give them any length. He is facing a garbage bottom of the lineup and he has nothing. I know the Yanks won’t do it but I would give him 2 more starts and if he doesn’t get better they need to take him out of the rotation. Especially when they have Hughes ready to go…
error or not, geez come on Andy. kapler?
ESPN with a shot of Joba in the dugout. Take one good guess at what Berman and Hershisher are talking about when they mention him.
serf, are you in the NY market? If you are you cannot access Yankee games on mlb.com, the theory being that you are able to watch them on television.
When you are in NC you won’t have any problem.
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Ah, I see. Kinda strange though. Not allowed to watch your home team? Oh well. At least I can watch em’ in NC. That’s all I need it for.
Hey. See what I did there? I managed to channel Deborah while talking about channeling the fake SJ44.
Erica, depends where you are, and if you have a/c. I’m gonna say 80 bucks.
Hughes should be in the rotation. Pettitte should be riding the pine. Too bad everyone would be afraid to make a move like that though.
We might witness soon Hugheses bullpen debut.
“Johnny Damon makes the grab”
No…Melky did but good try ESPN.
79 pitches for Andy
Giving Andy a small rest on the DL for his back and letting Hughes take a few starts in his place might not be the worst idea. (After they figure out the Burnett suspension)
Update tagline
Just not good pitching.
He’s lost the plate again.
Now 10 walks 2 HBP and 10 hits in his last 10 innings of work. Not good.
Go to Hughes in the 5th.
andy
Vin-
I live in a neighborhood called Cedarhurst- near JFK airport on the Nassau County side. I haven’t even put my AC on yet this year and I just paid a bill for $134 for two months. In the summer it tops out around $300 usually.
“Johnny Damon makes the grab”
No…Melky did but good try ESPN.
Berman’s getting old..lol He’s been around for like 30 yrs..lol
I’d like to see Hughes out soon. Almost beginning to forgot he was in the bullpen.
wow half the people on this blog can’t truly call themselves yankees fans (or even baseball fans)
andy K’s someone, you call him an HOFer
andy let’s a HR following some crappy defense and you call for his head
it’s baseball – anything can happen at anytime
CALM DOWN
“Or I could channel the fake SJ44.
You know, be REALLY novel – a fake fake SJ44.’
You’re entering a level of postmodernism not seen since Nabokov’s ‘Pale Fire’.
“If” Pettitte was healthy when why would Girardi and the doctor coming running out when he had to cover 1st base? Obviously he isn’t healthy. They should of let Hughes take his last 2 starts and let him rest instead of going out there and being garbage once again. A homerun to steroids Kapler who is hitting .178, that must of been a great pitch.
With Tex leading this team, Arod’s been pretty quiet. Waiting for him to break out soon!!
That’s two quick outs.. swinging for the fences again!
Andy throws too many flat over the plate pitches lately……
Can Pete ban this fake SJ44 already. Every single game this guy comes on and impersonates SJ.
Michael Kay is funny. If he didn’t point out the fact that BJ Upton was dipping..none of the kids he’s so concerned about would know..
I am glad they have a big old 3 runs against garbage Sonnastine with a 7 era.
Meanwhile, the other Andy is at 48 pitches.
Wait, I missed it. “Take it outta your mouth BJ”.
What happened?
lol, I may as well roll with it, Tom.
Not like there is anything that can be done to stop the impersonation around here, lol.
Why someone would bother doing it, is beyond me.
Does he really have a 7 era?
Erica,
Wow, that’s crazy. Here in Vegas, my bill will top out at about $250 during the summer. It would be lower if I didn’t have a dog, but the poor thing needs her a/c even when no human is home.
jen, I think it would take the real SJ to email Pete and tell him a particular night he won’t be posting (without mentioning it to anyone else) and asking Pete to please ban anyone who comes on and uses his identity.
I am glad they have a big old 3 runs against garbage Sonnastine with a 7 era.
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I didn’t realize the game was already over.
There isn’t anything wrong with his back.
Look at his numbers this year:
Counting tonight: 72 innings, 116 baserunners.
You give up that many baserunners, sooner or later it’s coming back to bite you.
Hasn’t pitched well for most of the year. Let’s hope we see Hughes tonight.
and btw if Hughes replaces anyone in the rotation..why Pettite and not Wang?
I love the Beyond Baseball commercials especially Tim Lincecum’s. Actually, I just love Tim Lincecum. I watched parts of the Giants game yesterday just to see him pitch. His unique delivery will never get old for me.
Vin-
You live im Vegas? Do you like it??? I don’t think I could permanently live close to casinos. I enjoy sticking my money in slot machines way too much.
Yank Pettitte
Walks usually don’t lead to any good. Come on Andy
Seriously how long of a leash does Petitte get in this rotation? I don’t want Hughes’ job to be Pettitte and Wang mop up duty. Pettitte has had nothing stuff wise. He hasn’t had it for about a month now.
Joeyo June 8th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Michael Kay is funny. If he didn’t point out the fact that BJ Upton was dipping..none of the kids he’s so concerned about would know..
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Now they are all running to the computer to google it.
Andy has looked horrible his last 3 0utings
i really hope andy is not hurt…if he is i cant respect the guy..you cant go out there hurt and continue to underperform..once ok…but you got to get yourself healthy, especially when we have hughes to fill in…i love andy but he cant go out there hurt
David Robertson throwing in the pen
Man you guys gotta relax. Pettitte looks good other than one pitch. Give him some leeway.
I really hate watching Pettitte pitch – I look forward to next season when hopefully he is not around.
What is up with all the comments being in italics? I don’t like it, it’s weird. Also Pettite is mediocre at this point in his carrer. I can’t wait until next season when Pettite is long gone and Hughes can take his place. If Andy breaks down in the 2nd half like he did last year he won’t stay in the rotation with an extra starter on the team.
gameday says andy has allowed alot of groundball hits
are they just finding holes or are those rays hitters getting good swings off him
bring in hughes
wow, you still got it Jeets!!!
nicee DP!
Oh Yes!
*career
Great play by the Captain!
Joe refuses to use Phil – its ridiculous. Great, he’s sitting on the bench waiting for Wang’s start…….good job of developing the kid. This is how you treat mediocre long men, not top prospects. Phil is really learning a lot by not pitching……Andy has been quite bad for a long time. At what point do we start questioning whether he’s going to bounce back?
Andy was laboring even in the scoreless innings in this game. Yet he has thus far still not given up more than 5 earned runs in a game. And that GIDP helps keep that going.
Yeah, I certainly live here. It’s OK. It has its high points and its low points. I’ve been here since high school (except for 3 years in SoCal). It’s definitely not a good place for people who like to “donate” money to the casinos.
I’ve gambled maybe $30 in my entire life. The only reason anyone is here is because people lose more often than not. But that’s just my take. Feel free to visit and spend some money. We can use your support!
Andy is buying you dinner tonite Derek!
why is robertson warming up and not hughes!?!?!? i know robertson has done pretty well… but give hughes is shot
evades danger once again….
Are you kidding me? No Phil? GRRRRRRRRRR
“What is up with all the comments being in italics? I don’t like it, it’s weird.”
Rishi did it. As always.
Rachel
3 ER in 4 IP is an ERA of 6.75. Only slightly better than his season numbers.
Meanwhile Andy ALMOST screws up another potential double play ball… can someone please tell this guy to just let those grounders go past him so the infielders can turn the DP
I don’t understand why they’d bring in Robertson this early. 6th inning? I don’t get it.
I think Girardi is saving Hughes for Wang’s start on Weds.
It would be nice to get Hughes into a game. I know Girardi is probably saving him for when Wang gets smacked around in Boston but he hasn’t pitched in a long time. He probably won’t be sharp when he does pitch, since he has been off for awhile.
It’s not hard to see that the Yankees will score more runs and win this game.
Will be interesting to see who starts next inning against the bottom of Tampa’s order.
Earth to Michael Kay
Shut up about the tabacky chaw and NO ONE WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT!
If Andy can get thru one more, this will be an Aceves game. Girardi must be saving Hughes for Boston
I am glad Pettitte did not pitch in Fenway this week…that would have been ugly.
Are they going to treat him differently b/c of his name or will they look at the stats and realize he is horrible.
He is tough to watch.
What’s with all the errors lately? That’s just not good at all..They are unraveling with the fundamentals.
Vin
I’d get Pettitte back out there. He’s not a “100 pitch and outta there” pitcher and he had an easy last inning.
vin, I don’t know who Rishi is but i’m mad at him/her if they are responsible
Kay is a moron if MLB bans chewing tobacco I think he should boycotte kay stupid radio show.
Chewing Tobacco is baseball
It’s not hard to see that the Yankees will score more runs and win this game.
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probably in the 8th inning again.
Betsy: you said it yourself, they are most likely saving Phil because they have no idea what to expect from Wang. Of course you and I both hope that Wang delivers a solid start and builds on his last appearance and then they will figure out what to do with Phil. They’re not going to keep him on the shelf when he’s probably going to be needed to start more games for the big club this season. Have no fear.
karma – one homer = one GIDP?
GGBG, I am watching on ESPN. What is Kay saying about chewing tobacco?
Auh there he is with the name thing. Sometimes I wonder how old Kay is? He acts like a 12 year old.
Chewing tobacco is stupid.
“vin, I don’t know who Rishi is but i’m mad at him/her if they are responsible ”
Rishi is very likeable… just always seems to cause formatting shenanigans.
Nice play by Crawford there.
For his part, the little kid interfered as much as he could. Good job, kid!
Out of curiousity, does anyone know the stats on Yankee runs by inning. It doesn’t seem like they ever score in the middle 3. They seem to get lots in the first three, and then in the 7th, 8th 9th- but those middle innings are rough
Absolutely Hughes as backup as needed in Boston.
Girardi is thinking ahead. He doesn’t have the “luxury” of kneejerking and thinking only about immediate fan gratification. He’s paid to get his guys through an entire season and postseason, not to worry about how fans are kvetching because they think Andy is about to implode.
Maybe Girardi wants to use Hughes as the 8th inning type pitcher and not a long man.
Let’s hope we can squeeze out one more inning from Andy
Kay- Why not mention all the coke and pot the 86 Mets did. give the kids a real education.
He turned into cy young
I think Betsy is channeling DEBORAH.
Sonnastine has a 7.07 era. He has given up 78 hits in 56 innings pitched.
what is with all these close games that the Yanks have to make comebacks on? Can they just have a blowout once in awhile.. Don’t bring up the 12-3 Rangers game either. I still think Pettitte is playing with fire now. I’d rather see Phil throw a few innings then see Robertson come in a tie game and throw 1 inning.. Seems pointless cause you just get into the bullpen when Hughes can throw a few.
Aside from that one pitch to Kapler, Pettitte hasn’t pitched badly today. We just need our bats to wake up before the 8th inning.
jennifer
If they were playing the 86 Mets I’m sure he would! LOL!
Matsui needs to just keep that bench warm! Geez
I always thought that Lenny Dykstra was as prominent of a tobacco chewer as there was in baseball.
jeeez. no hughes tonight when do you use him.
living by the long ball…need some situational hitting.
was swisher safe on that DP?
For those of you with access, Sean West has a perfect game going for the Marlins through 6 innings vs. the visiting Giants.
That was another strike three that Andy didn’t get.
Lets thing about the Rays right now this game is still going on
stuart a
Didn’t get a good view, but it was pretty close.
Is it accurate to say that Pettitte is the worst pitcher in the rotation?
stuart a
No, Swisher was out.
How’s that for a comeback inning?
bob
Andy is through 6 and has given up 3 ER. He may be the worst pitcher in the rotation but that’s a comment on how good the rotation is – not that Andy sucks.
At this point in his career, is what he is. He’s going to give up a lot of baserunners, going to give up a lot of HR’s at home, and grind his way thru his starts.
On nights the ball finds holes, those runs score. On the nights the balls finds fielders, he wiggles out of trouble.
He’s allowed a ton of baserunners this year. That’s living on the edge when you pitch like that.
well…say what you want about andy but he did his job today…6 innings of 3 run (2 earned) is not bad..sure the way he gave the runs up are sad but would you feel better if longoria hit a 3 run shot?..maybe..
Girardi needs to keep sending Andy out there, I dont care if Andy has to throws 130 pitches. Save the pen for Boston.
Hughes should come out for the 7th and 8th inning. Saving him for Wednesday night is way too long of a layoff. Aceves/Tomko can pitch long relief if need be that day.
Overall, not too bad of a job by Andy tonight. Quality start
Andy lowered his ERA by .11
No Bob. That would be INACCURATE.
By baseball standards, 6 innings and 3 earned runs or less is considered a quality start
1-2-3
espn did not show it twice.
pettitte at 104 pitches probably adios…
they are probably saving hughes for wang on weds by then it will be many days since he last pitched.
errors in like 6 staraight games…let’s get some juice going.
Hughes up in the pen!
see phil is up. so stop.
Hey, there is Master Philip now. So who knows what’s really going on?
im calling yuuuuuuuuuuse to pitch the 7-8-9th and get an old fashioned save
Hughes is warming up.
For all those who rag on Derek’s glove, he’s turned the clock back this season…..He’s still a top 3 ss in the game….
*Don’t believe the imposter bob.this bob likes ANDY* very much!
I really surprised that Hughes is warming up. Instead of wasting him for just an inning or 2 they should save him for Wed. when Wang pitches.
pettitte is a great pitcher
6IP, 2ER on 5 hits, 7K is a great line
he had one bad inning, mostly due to an error and a blow call by the ump on that 2-2 pitch to kapler
at this point in his career, pettitte will live or die by the ground ball
this time they found some holes, but andy kept his team in the game
and that is what is most important
anyone agree with me?
Jeter has been Ice cold.
“Out of curiousity, does anyone know the stats on Yankee runs by inning. It doesn’t seem like they ever score in the middle 3. They seem to get lots in the first three, and then in the 7th, 8th 9th- but those middle innings are rough”
Erica,
http://www.baseball-reference......2009#innng
Johnny Love you!!
JOHHHHNNNNNYYYY ROCKET!
Hes Damonic
Woot!
there ya go johnny!
thank you, johnny.
thank you.
JOHNNY DAMON!
YAY for my pretend boyfriend!!!!!
JOhnny!
Damon’s Deck gets another one…
I love this stadium.
Trish, please – no comparisons to Deborah, lol. I happen to think the Yankees are doing a terrible job with Phil. As Nick said, he’s likely being kept around as a caddy for Wang…….which doesn’t help his development one bit. It’s a complete waste to have him not pitching
Rachel June 8th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
It would be nice to get Hughes into a game. I know Girardi is probably saving him for when Wang gets smacked around in Boston but he hasn’t pitched in a long time. He probably won’t be sharp when he does pitch, since he has been off for awhile.
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Rachel June 8th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I really surprised that Hughes is warming up. Instead of wasting him for just an inning or 2 they should save him for Wed. when Wang pitches.
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So which is it?
Andy Pettitte in line for the win
And I hope everyone at least considers the possibility that Wang will do well in Boston. It’s not a pre-determined disaster.
Benny
That would have been out of the old place. It landed 10 rows back!
GGBG someone is using my name,the coward is afraid to post under their own name.This bob loves the Yankees!
Thanks Tom- I was kind of right, they are definitely less productive in the 5th & 6th and boy, they love the 7th inning
Perfecto and no-no both done in Florida.
Could ESPN sound more disgusted by the stadium?
Good to see Phil up……but he’s rusty, so I will not be surprised if he struggles. If he goes, say 2 innings, can he still pitch on Tuesday?
SJ44
June 8th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Hughes is warming up
Hey fake SJ44! How are ya!
Good to see you here.
How is your fake nephew? IS he getting ready for the fake draft?
I take my chances with Hughes in the 7th and 8th.
Giving up a HR to a .167 hitter to blow a 3 run lead is not good pitching.
Look at the last 4 hitters in the Rays lineup tonight. Not exactly Murderers Row.
Pettitte should have been better tonight, given the lineup the Rays put out there.
I hope it doesn’t take much longer for Arod to get his bat and mechanics going. He has really looked off balance.
I guess those 2 days off didn’t help Jeter. He was very hot in Cleveland and against Texas. Pretty cold now.
hughes first appearance out of the bp. should be interesting
mariano today or no because he has pitched 2 days in a row?
LOL jennifer
SJ – What’s the saying, “he has a bat in his hands, he can do anything”?
But I hear what you’re saying.
Did that pop up of Damon’s count as a HR?
What a great time for a Johnny Rocket
RESIGN DAMON!!!!!!
Phil is in
Hey fake SJ- everyone knows the real SJ doesn’t post during games. So take your childish nonsense elsewhere.
“I hope it doesn’t take much longer for Arod to get his bat and mechanics going. He has really looked off balance.”
How “balanced” do you need to be to watch 5 pitches and 4 of them are out of the strike zone?
Phil Youuuuuuse come on down?
Nice to see Phil here.. Go get em boy!
hughes gets a total free pass from me here…hes got to be rusty…i will only think better of him from what he does here
I don’t mind the fake SJ44 as much as most of you.
It’s like the real SJ is Almost Here.
popin the glove at 96!
philly phil
Phil is a starting…
So when Pettitte pitches crappy he gives up 3 runs in 6 innings? He can pitch crappy for me every night. What’s the Yankees record when they give up 3 or less runs?
96 MPH!!! hughes throwin gasss
Hughes is bringing it tonight
that was a nasty breaking ball to crawford. hughes looks good so far. cmon phil!
“So which is it?”
What don’t you get? I said it would of been nice to get him into a game recently. Like in the last couple of days so he wouldn’t be rusty when he pitches in Boston.
wow he looks good
Nick- It is just really annoying. People are just so childish. Why the need to use someone elses name?
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuges
Hughes breaking out the heat. Pulling a Joba circa 2007.
Did ESPN mention how far Papi’s weekend home run went at Fenway?
Hit the bottom of the Pesky pole – about 20 feet shorter than Damon’s dinger.
Fenway plays like the 18th hole of a mini golf course.
you hear the hughes chant!!
Hughes has nice velocity coming out of the pen. Isn’t it funny that our best relievers are all long men? (except Mo)
Nick you are my Almost Hero.
(I won’t sing Bette,don’t worry)
Hughes looks good. He’s the new young stud reliever. The eighth inning is his.
Hughes has looked great.
Bdetsy, absolutely only kidding. And I think you channeled Joe Girardi and got him to your way of thinking!
wow
wow, phil
PHILLLLLLLIP
hughes looked extremely confident..
there we go phil!!!!
Here we go again. Phil Hughes: Starter or Bullpen
Oh great. Now we might have TWO young pitchers who will create a starter/reliever debate.
Wow Hughes dealing.
96mph
Phil- That was impressive!!
PHIL TO THE PEN!!!
That was some inning by Hughes. Very impressive. They kid really has guts.
Hughes the new 8th inning guy.
j/k
Phil looking good. So much for rust.
Oh my Hughesie!
The new bridge to Mo.
Hughes the new setup man? lol. He throws harder when he knows he only has to throw 30 pitches or so.
Maybe people will start talking about putting Hughes in the 8th inning take some presure off Joba. haha
OH MY GOD!
His eyes are very very green.
(sigh)
Phil is brining heat!
Hey Erica Hooghes is a starting Pitcha. Get is straight.
Jobber belongs in the pen. If Jobbber went to the pen he’d throw 110. Huugghes is only getting up to 95.
I can hear it already.
Hughes and Joba should be paired up with each making every other start, going 5 IP and the other going the other 4.
I bet Fatcessa says it first.
Pettitte gets totally destroyed here but as usual he not only kept the game within reach, in this case he never gave up the lead. Still, you want your wily veteran innings eater to eat another inning or too.
But I’ll take the ‘quality start’ more times than not too.
trisha- I was just going to post that. Who has the best eyes on the team
AJ
or Cisco?
Any other guys with piercing eyes?
The crowd was louder during that top of the inning than they had been all night. HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES
They should use Hughes for the 8th and 9th. That way Mo can be rested for the boston series.
Erica, Cashman was very clear that Hughes as a starter was definitely still in the Yankees future plans. This is temporary (who knows how temporary for the near future) but what a brilliant move it was!
maybe phil hughes is mariano’s replacement. lol that is getting way ahead of everything. but you never know
Hughes seems to have a healthy swagger about him now. He was pitching with a lot of aggressiveness and a lot of confidence.
Showcasing a buzzing 96 mph fastball and a sharp breaking ball tonight.
I like this Ernie Palladino guy’s style. He doesn’t try to be funny. He doesn’t spout the stats. He is subtle, but impressive. Zen like even. It’s almost like he’s not here.
hughes looked good but i am still 100% committed to him in the rotation long term
Jennifer- Cisco. DUH!
trisha- She is joking. Mike F has been talking about Jobber being a pen guy. So she is just joking about Hughes now being put in the discussion.
Put all the children in the playpen..I mean bullpen.
So much for Hughes being rusty LOL!
Jorge was close too!
Why are all our balls dying at the track? That has to be #5.
hughes does not wan’t to get sent back down.
Phillip looks very good…..Great movement on 95 cheese…
it almost hurts watching matsui jog
Poor Matsui
Careful, DT, you know I’m Allegedly Hellbound.
Trisha, Jennifer, etc…
I fully stand behind Hughes as a starter. That was my (not funny) way of making fun of the neverending Joba debate
Hughes is likely only here until Bruney comes back.
Nick, you’ve stuck by Andy through it all. When your not being funny you have a real astute baseball mind.
Nice job Swish
way to run Swish!
jen, I definitely think those two corner the market on beautiful Yankee eyes. I think Arod has pretty eyes, and also Jeter, but Cervelli’s eyes are the kind that make you catch your breath! I think he’s got eyes that can melt you and wear down any resistance you may have!
Melky needs a hit
Trish, lol – I should have known you were kidding.
Phil ! Man, I am so proud of him. This kid has been through the ringer considering he’s an old man of 22 – first a hyped prospect, then a bust. Now? THIS is the kid we were waiting for. I love how he’s making it impossible for the Yanks to send him down.
Swishers BA 257. if anyone cares…lol
The italics started on a post at 7:30.
Melky is a better centerfielder because of his jump on the ball. Altho, Brett had a great ST, be reminded again those games were not always filled with regulars. Melky had just been Mr. Clutch with his bat. Brett does not do well with long hits, loses them over his head. He is still a rookie.
Just a quick comparision to Ellsbury his first year. Not his callup at the end of 2007 but 2008. He has great speed and can get to any ball in the centerfield. Brett has speed but doesn’t get to ball as Ells does. I think Brett’s stature compared to Ellsbury who is 6-2 makes a difference also. I hated pitting Brett against Melky w/Melky the loser out. He has paid his dues – he should remain an every day player.
We have smart Jeter, but the Rays have a Brainiac.
erica- I know and apparently it was my unfunny way of giving it back to you.
Erica, duh, sorry.
Phil does NOT belong in the pen. Poor kid, I love Phil Hughes! He did so WELL but he is stuck in the bullpen. I wont have Joba in the bullpen, I really wont have it. My least favorite pitcher is Andy if he was a team player he would go to the bullpen or sit because he is the weakest link at this pont. I know that sounds RADICAL but I am so, SO serious.
if hughes has another good inning here, do the yankees use him for the ninth since mariano has pitched 2 days in a row?
“Careful, DT, you know I’m Allegedly Hellbound.”
Cool Nick. Give us a full Fenway report.
jennifer
We’ve hit three HR’s tonight. Sometimes they don’t all go out lol!
hughes is PHILTHY…
Phil Coke? GL man.
Besty, Phil is not a bust. But I understand where your coming from.
I really can’t stand Girardi. Here comes Coke to lose the game.
Oh hey.
Phil Coke enters the game.
josh
If he looks like he did in the 7th and has that kind of ease? I would but Girardi probably won’t
*queue the girardi is a terrible manager comments*
Coke in
oh god, leave the game in Coke’s hands?
I do not agree with this. Lets hope it doesn’t come back to bite us. Coke has been awful as of late.
coke!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Coke?
what is girardi thinkking.
coke suck!
11 pitch inning for Hughes and he’s out? hmmmm…
Hughes is out?? That’s bull. I don’t trust Coke one bit.
Why didn’t they leave Phil in?
this will be cokes at bats: high, high, high, high walk
overmanaging right here
we will lose this game with coke
Girardi over-managing again
why wouldn’t he leave Hughes in?
everything is high with coke
I bet they took Phil Hughes out because Wang is going on Wednesday, and they want to save him. Kind of like this was his “throw day”.
This is the Hughes that Cashman expected last season…
Tom, I appreciate that a lot, but I plead not guilty to having an especially astute baseball mind. I just try to apply common sense and not be too knee-jerk about anything.
Have you listened to that Stereolab yet?
So just a single inning from Phil means he’s going to be available for more if needed on Wednesday?
not sure i understand pulling phil hughes here…
we need an update from pete.
he would have destroyed this move
Every time the bullpen door has to open the dice get thrown again…does he have it tonight?
Hughes had it going. Why take him out?
If he walks pena..I will jump off my couch and drop kick my flat screen.
wat are you doing?!?!?! hughes looked unhittable
Why????
Why is Coke in the game? Couldn’t Phil have gone another? I know they are saving him for Wang but he pitches about 7 innings as a starter couldn’t he have gone at least 2 here even if he has to go 5 in the Red Sox game. Are they really thinking they may have to pull Wang after 1 or 2 innings? I really hope Wang pitches well against the Sox. It would erase most people’s doubt.
lefty v. lefty with Coke not always good idea
Benny
Youtube or GTFO
I thought Pena might find a way to hit a lead off grand slam
phil choke
cmon phil
well good for Coke, love when I’m proved wrong!!!
Um, WHY……..unless Phil couldn’t pitch against Boston in Wang’s game if he went another inning? Coke stinks right now…………ugh
pitched pena just as he did justin mournou that one big at bat… all fastballs on the outside corner
I will take Ernie Palladino’s cue and hold my tongue.
In Girardi we trust.
Joe that is what Sweeny speculated.
Oh hallelujah! The worst manager in the AL (who only wins bc he has one of the best rosters) makes another IDIOT decision.
girardi=idiot
now who the heck pitches the 9th if coke gets through this
Erica, I think the eyes did it! After I see those eyes I have difficulty concentrating! Speaking of which, where the heck is Bronx Jeers? He’s the one that got the mesmerizing eyes joke started!!!
Maria,
obviously, we all hope Wanger can last against the Sox, but you have to be careful there with him still.
I hate nights when Pete takes off!
Hughes was looking fired up in the dugout.
coke’s command is so bad
A walk by Phil Coke. How unusual? He is a joke and Girardi is too for using him here.
come on Phil
Damn walk
Walks kill…
Joe from Long Island….I think you’re right…
Can Zobrist DIAF already.
Even if Phil couldn’t go in Wang’s game if he pitched more than 1 inning, you have to try and win this game – terrible, terrible, terrible move
how many times you gonna talk to coke?
I am declaring that Coke will be fine.
From my mouth to the gods’ ears?
there is nothing eiland can say. Coke has no command because Girardi overused him earlier this year. he misses high with everything
Someone put out an APB for this Ernie Palladino character.
Maybe he’s a figment of Pete’s imagination?
Robertson up in ‘pen? wow, nice confidence Joe
Its okay Trisha- he does have amazing eyes. Is it a little sad that I am okay with Molina on the DL cause I don’t want Cisco to do away?
This is what you get with Coke. Strikeout, walk, or homerun.
If he blows this, he should be renamed Phil Choke.
okay 1 more
Berman has no idea what he’s talking about!
What a complete joke not leaving Hughes in. Girardi seriously can screw up some easy decisions. He is so in love with Coke. No matter what happens this inning, this is playing with fire. Stupid move not leaving Hughes in, no matter what the outcome is.
Ridin this wave, I am being realistic about the expectations for Wang. I forget if he went 4 or 5 in his last outing. I am not really expecting that much of him against the Sox, but wouldn’t you think he could go at the least 3 or 4 innings.
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Maybe I offended Ernie by saying the only Ernie in my world is the orange muppet who lives with Bert????
Bringing in Coke mades zero sense. If you are going to use Hughes then let him pitch the 8th inning. Coke has been absolutely awful. I can not understand this move at all…
you people really are impossible..nothing satisfies anybody on this place…
Phil Hughes is a STARTAAH
lol, the wave at the Stadium!! love it
THE WAVE!?!?
why are people doing the friggin wave. we are not red sox fans
please tell me that wasn’t the wave…. at NYS
Coke: can’t beat the real thing
I just don’t trust Coke in these situations no matter if he gets out of this inning or not!.. He puts too many guys on base.
Coke just boo booed on us
good job cokey
ok, now who the hell pitches the 9th
Cokey no chokey!
I would have liked to see Hughes pitch the 7th, 8th, and 9th. Going into Fenway with Mo unavailable for Game 1 is not exactly the best way to start things off.
OMG LOOK COKE PITCHED A SCORELESS 8TH…
this makes giradi look lke a genious…rediculous
that was the wrong phil. It should of been phil hughes.
I never wanna see coke again he is a tease
Whew!
It looked like Coke was going to be the Anti-Hughes there, but now we’re Almost Home.
well there you have it everyone, Coke pitched 8th inning and didn’t lose it!!!! wait, let me call the NY Post and report the breaking news now!
What is wrong with those morons? the wave. Any moron who did the wave should give up their seat. It is a one run game, and they are more concerned about watching other morons stand up put hands above head and sit down. Great job.
“I am declaring that Coke will be fine.”
come on down and pick up your prize Trisha.
Great outing Coke.
I’d say that Tampa has had their Phil, tonight.
Love all of the “I’m smarter than Girardi” assistant managers.
I never promise what I can’t deliver.
Now don’t you feel at least a silly getting all coked up about Coke? You should if you don’t.
By the way, haven’t we all figured out yet that the only thing that separates a brilliant move from and idiotic move is the execution or lack thereof?
I’d still take Girardi’s managing to that of fans here.
I am not upset that Coke was pitching as I don’t hate him as much as most do on this blog. Just think he has been roughed up and overused lately. He used to be one of our assured guy once upon a time. I was just curious as to the reasoning behind pulling Hughes. I guess they really are scared Wang may not even make it out of the first or second.
I am sorry. My name is Erica. And I like the wave
(I will hang my head in shame)
Jeter’s having a very nice defensive night. And really, the wave is SO 1985.
Alright Coca Cola!
i didnt see the pre game tonight, is river available?
Are we gonna use Mo 3 days in a row?
YES!
THE CAPTAIN OBLIGES!
Jeter got it that time! He was flirting with that spot all night
The captain comes through!
Nice insurance run
That was a new stadium HR, but I don’t care!!
Lets blow this bad boy open!
WOOOHHHOOOO!
thats a big run there. gj derek
JETER!
Jeter was flirting with that earlier and found it that time.
yea jeter!
yeah! typical swing to clear the park!
THE CAPTAIN STRIKES BACK
And now Jeter’s offensive night is a little better as well.
Or maybe not!
The fact that Coke got out of the inning means nothing. NOTHING.
How is Phil supposed to feel. I hope he reads this, we LOVE YOU PHIL! First he is demoted. Then he isn’t even TRUSTED to throw and they give the ball to COKE? He must feel WORTHLESS! Why does the Yankees organization treat their future like CRAP? Booing Arod? Yankees fans
by the way no-one ever texts ugly michael kay.. ahha
except for paul oniel’s son
No rallies tonight. Just knock it out of the park.
Jetah!
Do you still think Derek is washed up ?????
Jetes
Man I hope Aj brings his game tomorrow..
Randy Choke
hopefully the yanks can get some more runs so mariano doesn’t have to pitch tonight
All State time boys, let’s get some insurance!
Tyler
June 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
this makes ***giradi*** look ***lke*** a ***genious…rediculous***
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I just can’t say it….I’m laughing too hard.
No way do we see Mo tonight. Girardi won’t risk it in case he is needed in Boston. I say Ace gets the save opportunity
LOL Pel that’s what I thought
“Wait, is his name really Choke?”
Guess not. But hopefully he chokes anyway
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DEBORAH June 8th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
The fact that Coke got out of the inning means nothing. NOTHING.
How is Phil supposed to feel. I hope he reads this, we LOVE YOU PHIL! First he is demoted. Then he isn’t even TRUSTED to throw and they give the ball to COKE? He must feel WORTHLESS! Why does the Yankees organization treat their future like CRAP? Booing Arod? Yankees fans
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Does your doctor know that you haven’t been taking your medication?
Nick, I had sterolab on last night while I rearranged my book cases. I had a ‘High Fidelity’ moment and wanted to arrange all my books by theme and/or conflict. This is my first summer off since I was 12. I don’t know what to do with myself.
Anyway, from what I heard, Sterolab is very eccentric and I like it.
DEBORAH
Hes’s got a role on a winning team.
And he pitched great.
And we’re looking good to win the game.
He probably feels great. I know this is tough to believe but most people – especially classy athletes like Hughes – don’t overreact like you do.
Doreen, Wind has very little effect on line drives…That was a dinger anywhere…It’s the high flies that are getting aid …I still say it’s the baseballs ….
This is sacrilege but does Robertson attempt to close out the game with Rivera pitching 3 games in a row heading into Boston?
Here’s a real toughie. Who gets the WWE belt tonight??
I would give it to Swisher or Damon (my pretend boyfriend)
Hey DEBORAH here is another take. Phil is feeling REALLY good that he pitched as well as he did and realizes that Girardi wants to hold his pitch count down and not overdo it because they have a really important series coming up with the Red Sox and trust him enough to be used in more critical situations than this one – and to go long innings if needed.
I don’t want to be critical of you but you really say a ton of whacked out things.
Girardi is a tremendous manager. He doesn’t check with any of us before he makes his decisions and more often than not they end up being very good decisions.
mmmm, my wine taste go good!
Here comes hall of famer Choate…
Tom in NJ~
I LOVE That MOVIE!!!!
Pat M -
You’re right. On the replay, I realized I was wrong. That was a good drive by Jeter.
whoa, what kind of swing was that Johnny Dangerously? lol
Erica- You can’t save your closer for a game that might not need saving. If today is a save situation. You use him.
“No way do we see Mo tonight. Girardi won’t risk it in case he is needed in Boston. I say Ace gets the save opportunity”
dont put money on it
GB7 – I picked something up from Nick last night – something from Elvis Costello – “I used to get disgusted, now I try to be amused.”
Trevor
Was thinking the same thing. If Rivera pitches today he’s definitely off tomorrow and maybe even Weds.
“Who gets the WWE belt tonight??”
Hughes for playing out of position.
Jennifer-
I hope you are right. It makes me sad when I don’t hear Enter Sandman.
“Hey DEBORAH here is another take. Phil is feeling REALLY good that he pitched as well as he did and realizes that Girardi wants to hold his pitch count down and not overdo it because they have a really important series coming up with the Red Sox and trust him enough to be used in more critical situations than this one – and to go long innings if needed.
I don’t want to be critical of you but you really say a ton of whacked out things.
Girardi is a tremendous manager. He doesn’t check with any of us before he makes his decisions and more often than not they end up being very good decisions.”
i like that take trisha..not only is it very positive..its also realistic and makes sense
I bet we see Robertson because it will be a non-save situation
an abomb here wouldn’t hurt
Come on Alex make me smile. You know Jeter went deep so that means you have to copy and do the same
“GB7 – I picked something up from Nick last night”
That didn’t start out well… but the Elvis Costello reference made it all better.
Isringhausen coming in as Maddon begins his little parade.
Trisha
You are right about Joe G. He is proving to be a very good manager.
Duane Staats and Kevin Kennedy are really ripping the stadium. Both called all the HRs to right “A joke.”
Talking about a lot of homeruns being hit…. I was watching the Padres game last night and David Eckstein hit a homerun and the announcer said that more homeruns have been hit at Petco park this season then ever before. So maybe the new balls have something to do with it.
Pat-
You are right. I was only thinking offense. I hope Commissioner Damon gives the belt to Hughes.
Phil being used in 1 inning stints is stupid – it’s ridiculous to potentially give this game away in case Wang blows up.
GB, if you think taking out Phil was a good move – please explain why you think so? I really want to know…..thanks!
Mo pitches tonight. You play to win tonight an worry about Boston tomorrow.
Erica,
Mo is coming in unless Tex can tack on another run here.
I know what happened: Ernie Palladino was furloughed just before the top of the 1st inning.
See you next week, Ernie.
Does Alex lead the league in pitching changes before his at bats?
Mo can’t pitch tonight – who closes the door?
Jason was the closer for the Cards up until last season.He blow a lot of saves.
Just a comment on what a nice thread this has been tonight. It must be the power of Ernie’s officiating
Is anyone else watching the Tampa feed of this game? They’re damn funny with their RF commments..”its a joke, i have to hold my breath with every fly ball to right”…blah blah yada yada.
If you miss with a pitch that someone can drive to right…there’s a good chance its gonna get hit out. It is what it is. I’m just tired of hearing people complain about it.
Joe from Long Island
June 8th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
GB7 – I picked something up from Nick last night – something from Elvis Costello – “I used to get disgusted, now I try to be amused.”
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People need to be very careful about picking something up from Nick.
I love when posters try to call a manager an idiot by calling him a ***Genious”.
Boy did Isringhausen blow up.
This moment has A-Rod home run written all over it
That was the pitch.
Wow. The anti-semite Isringhausen seems to have eaten Bubba Crosby.
Umm.. or not
I will stand in the corner now
Mo coming in.
Erica – newly OPPC
June 8th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
This moment has A-Rod home run written all over it
or double play..lol
nice A-rod – no homer! what’s wrong with you! lol (of course, I’m mocking some others!)
This will be the 3rd day in a row that Mo is pitching. Hopefully the ball is cutting like it was yesterday. He is definitely not pitching tomorrow.
Veras walks in the BP and tells Mo,”I got this.”
I watch many Dodger and Angel games after the Yanks are finished….I’m watching baseballs being hit to places at these pitcher friendly places that just isn’t normal…..
Betsy, try this. Girardi wants to hold Hughes’s pitch count down and not overdo it because they have a really important series coming up with the Red Sox and trust him enough to be used in more critical situations than this one – and to go long innings if needed.
here comes mo…and its the right move…you dont manage for tomorrow when you have to win the game right now
I DO NOT want to see veras.
Tom: you know that there’s a Stereolab song in the “High Fidelity” movie (can’t remember if it’s the same song in the book).
If you end up liking “Transient Random…”, I would recommend “Mars Audiac Quintet” and “Emporer Tomato Ketchup”. For starters.
I love Mo as much as any Yankee fan but if he were unavailable tomorrow it might not be the worst thing. Boston always gives him fits.
Benny-
They are really very similar. LOL
Is isringhausen trying to smuggle a 10th player onto the field?
re: right field: both teams get to hit there, so who cares? so tired of that talk too
Betsy
June 8th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Phil being used in 1 inning stints is stupid – it’s ridiculous to potentially give this game away in case Wang blows up.
GB, if you think taking out Phil was a good move – please explain why you think so? I really want to know…..thanks!
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I’d prefer having Hughes available tomorrow and/or Wednesday against Boston. Especially since Rivera may not be.
GB – You’re a dirty old man (lol).
I HATE that they do players of the game before the game is over. It’s just not right. Not even when they’re winning.
Pat M
And the guys who are hitting them aren’t typical power guys.
Nick in SF-
You know, there is also a HUGE Fleetwood Mac moment in High Fidelity.
And no, they do not have songs about hobos
ok, Mo – bring it, lights out!
Amazing website, a MLB site that tracks every single Yankee HR with video, can we break the Rockies record!!!
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
Hughesie ready for his new (temporary?)role:
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....rking.html
Not whining, but man, in a big spot, I’d want Tex, Damon and then Jeter up before Arod.
I’m not sure why anyone would disagree based upon his season so far.
Gotta take the final outs in the car. Great game all!
(Yes I believe we will win this game.)
just 1 more! nice going to Boston winning 8 of last 9 series
Joe from Long Island
June 8th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
GB – You’re a dirty old man (lol).
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I’ll have you know that I’ve had a shower in the last 30 days. Very clean.
OK, maybe not “Very”, but, clean.
Pat….GB & myself have been saying that the balls are lively since early April…GB refers to the new Rawlings baseballs as Titlest…He is right
Mick,
you need to look at A-rod as just at the end of spring training, still trying to get his groove on, his swing on, etc. now this time next month, you can certifiably complain if he keeps up this way:)
Mick, considering that Arod clearly isnt 100% yet, you’re probably right.
Enter Sandman
Good morning
Good afternoon
Good night
Exit Sandman
Ernie, you did a great job filling in tonight.
Great game, now let’s get those BoSox
MO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ESPN will make waves about the 4 homeruns hit by the Yankees tonight.
Of them all, only Damon’s may have been close to staying in in the old park.
Mo.
Good work MO!!!!
Mo!
Yankees win! Theeeeeee Yankees win!
You take series’s. That is the goal. 2 out of 3 every time. That is wining baseball.
11 games over…..
b/c that’s what we do!!! nice win Andy!
mariano looked great and it only took him 11 pitches..same as yesterday…who knows about tomorrow but he might be able to go…hopefully yanks will crush beckett and it wont matter
Uh-oh, how are the BBTN jacka$$es going to criticize the Yankess tonight?
And just like that, Mo comes in, gets them 1-2-3. Just like clockwork and a good note on which to head into Boston.
Yankees have won 8 out of 9 series..
That’s why you bring in Mo. You worry about Boston tomorrow
so funny about Ernie! hope he enjoyed the game!
The only reason Hughes was in there was to get work
You pitch him 2-3 innings today, that means he only has 1 day off if he is needed for the Wang game and may have to pitch multiple innings in that too.
Hughes is a starting pitcher, not a reliever. You cannot blow out his arm like that (multiple innings sandwiched between 1 days rest).
Hughes is Wang’s caddy. That is his primary role. Anything else Joe can squeeze from him inbetween is gravy.
If they are saving Hughes because they are afraid that their upcoming starter will get bombed, then they have the wrong guy in the rotation AND the wrong guy in the pen.
“so funny about Ernie! hope he enjoyed the game!”
I heard the other beat writers locked him in the Press Room bathroom. Those crazy frat boys…
“Pettitte sucks”
“Coke sucks”
“Giraridi sucks”
Whiners suck.
Btw- did everyone see that Big Popup passed his eye exam. Guess he needs to find something else to blame….
Mo has my respect,when you have a bad outing come back strong.
Johnny Damon’s on-field post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/611258104dee3682/
Erica- lack of boli.
Mo has my respect,when you have a bad outing come back strong.
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It took him this long to get your respect?
Nice win, but we still can’t beat our tough division rivals the Redsocks or the Rays. According to what I read yesterday.
Anyway, I am going to start getting ready for bed. This going back to work thing and not sleeping all day takes a lot out of you!
Great win for the Yanks…winning yesterday and tonight takes the sting out of Saturday’s game…
The series with Boston should be a good one!
Let’s Go Yanks!
Mariano.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XlEzY4tMyg
Btw- I am going on record and predicting 2 of 3 against Boston.
Nice work from Hughes and Coke and of course from Mo, but don’t forget, Andy Helped!
>but don’t forget, Andy Helped!
Andy helped raise my blood pressure.
All I know is that Tampa Bay is 7 games back in the all so important loss column……
Another standard game in the “band-box in the bronx.”
GB, if Phil couldn’t go in Boston if he pitched another inning here, then yes – I do agree with the move.
Whenever things are going downhill fast, and you’re not sure you can hold it together, just remember to channel your inner Ernie Palladino.
Andy also helped prove that “wins don’t matter” as he became the rotation’s wins leader.
I would love to see Hughes replace Petitte-
Pettitte has been lucky and dodging bullets all season long
Gabe Kapler?
Great win – what else is new, lol. I guess Mo is fine – but obviously he’s not available tomorrow and probablay Tuesday either. Does Aceves close?
Should have left Hughes in to finish the game, classic case of Girardi over-managing the game. Oh well, glad it worked out.
I love watching Hughes pitch but he’ll be gone by next week.
I’ll be glad to have Pete back tomorrow nite!
Nick, the Yankees didn’t win tomorrow’s game yet, so they’re clearly not playing well.
From the Marc Carig’s twitter
“Just chatted with ian kennedy. He was at the game. Good to hear he’s doing well. — Carig”
Good to hear.
Andy’s the #5 on this team and he’s probably the best #5 in the AL. Not only could we do worse but we could do MUCH MUCH worse.
Good inning of tuneup for Hughes so he’s sharp for his expected need on Weds.
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I see what NYDJ is saying here:
If they are saving Hughes because they are afraid that their upcoming starter will get bombed, then they have the wrong guy in the rotation AND the wrong guy in the pen.
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Well said.
YES Booth Report audio with Lorenz, Kay, and Cone:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61126311bdf47911/
8 wins in the last 9 series. That is how you gain in the standings. Outstanding win tonight. The final exam is tomorrow, time to show the Red Sox we are for real. Of course nothing at all is established this weekend short of a sweep. That’s fine, we’re ready for the exam. Is Red Sox nation?
We need Arod to produce these next few games at Fenway if you want 2 out of 3.
He’s done little since his solo shot against Price.
If I were Beckett, I would take my chances with Alex and dance around Tex right about now.
Betsy: you don’t think Mo will be available tomorrow night *or* Tuesday?
I hate the italics – bring back the bold, lol
Kim didn’t even ask Joe why he took Phil out, sheesh…..
I thought it was so cute tonight how proud Cone was of doing some research today. He was like a little kid who did his homework for the first time all year and talked all class about it.
Oh brother – Joe wasn’t saving Phil for Boston, it was “Cokey’s” job to get Pena out. Sigh…..
Nick, I can’t imagine Mo being able to pitch tomorrow…..MAYBE Tuesday. If we need him for that game, it will be a miracle, lol
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6112646382934603/
I don’t see it on my screen, but are all the comments in italics?
Somebody tell me what posts starts it and I’ll try and fix it.
Betsy, I can see Mo maybe not being available tomorrow. And maybe he won’t be available Tuesday. But both???
Why do people take the managers word as the gospel?
They are not going to say it publicly, but the reason Hughes was only limited to an inning is because he is Wang’s caddy.
Who do you want coming into relieve Wang, if necessary… Hughes or Tomko?
Exactly.
Pete: 7:33, GGBG.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-837443
Pete: check around 7:32, I think that’s when it started.
It’s probably my fault, I made a joke involving the firebombing of Dresden and it was all italicized after that.
Andy calls him “Cokey” too.
Such hideous nicknames. Girardi really needs to calm down lol
of course, I guess he can’t say he’s saving Phil for Wang’s game, lol
So it goes, Nick.
Or, The Lohud Yankees blog became unstuck in time
Pettitte’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/611267290b3c7d1d/
Hughes may be our closer tomorrow
Either way, limiting him to 1 inning today gives you plenty of options.
I’d actually have more of a problem if he used Hughes for 2 innings tonight and brought him back tomorrow again. That’s how pitchers get hurt especially when they are new to relieving.
Cokey is a dreadful name……
Nick, eh – you’re probably right about Mo being able to go on Tuesday. I hope we need him,lol
*Pel* ,
thanks man for the audio tonight .
I’m not seeing the italics either, Pete.
ok, who cares about hearing Phil Coke? I want to hear from Phil #1
Thanks for the audio links Pel
Betsy: so you think Tuesday will be ok for Mo but not tomorrow?
When did they start calling Coke “Cokey.” Hughsie is kindof cute, Cokey just sounds wrong.
Girardi also referred to “Big Al.” That one works.
Coke’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6112682791f154ad/
Can Burnett be economical and throw a complete game?
did Peter Gammons really just say david ortiz “is in really good shape”
has he seem this guys body?
Coke’s YES post-game reaction audio (fixed – *LOUDER* ):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/611268485418d2c8/
> thanks man for the audio tonight .
>Thanks for the audio links Pel
You’re all welcome.
Pete, are you going to hit up any bars in Boston tonight? I’ll buy a few beers…
Nick, I’m not even sure if Mo is ok to go tonight……..
Here’s an amazing stat – the Yankees haven’t lost two games in a row in the last 25 or so games. That stat boggles the mind – it’s incredible. That’s how you don’t let losing streaks turn into slides. What the Yanks have done is remarkable- they are just so consistent.
Phil #1 is on YES!
Wooohoo! I’m famous. I broke the blog!
(Ok I have no idea how it happened…sorry Pete!)
Ok, Betsy, I think we’re in agreement: no Mo tomorrow night but Tuesday night, anything goes.
Great win going into Fenway!
“Can Burnett be economical and throw a complete game?”
That would be nice but even 7 decent innings hand-off to Aceves would be great, as long as Burnett can keep up with Beckett.
Thanks a lot Pel
Lol nice to see Ernie showed up
No way you can pitch MO tomorrow
We all saw what happened to Joe Nathan when we faced him for the 4th straight day.
He has been absolutely lights out this year, only giving up runs in 3 out of his 22 appearances, and 5 runs in 21.2 innings (3 of them to us).
It’s unfortunate that we had to use MO today, but we need to show some restraint, not burn him out.
Hughes’ YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6112706693b797a2/
Mo’s YES post-game reaction audio:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/611270704bec02ef/
We’re going to the world series!!!!!
Joe won’t say it, but after he saw how electric Hughes was in the 7th today, he might have figured he is going to close (or pitch the 8th) tomorrow and there is no point in burning him another inning tonight.
>Thanks a lot Pel
No problemo.
The only think I see in italics are the comments from Ernie Palladino.
think = thing. I had a GB senior moment.
Hughes was nasty tonight. Girardi is lucky Coke didn’t blow it in the 8th. He won’t be so lucky against Boston. Next time, he better leave Hughes in there.
Coke is in trouble basically every time out. I have more faith in Hughes/Robertson in a big spot.
Burnett cannot waste pitches tomorrow. Boston is an extremely patient lineup. Burnett is the kind of turning 0-2 counts into walks. He has to just attack tomorrow.
I’ll take 6 innings with a lead, hand it off to Aceves/Hughes. Figure out a way to get 9 outs from them.
Nick, do you think AJ is available tomorrow?
By the way, here is Mo receiving his “Judge M” robe from People’s Court Judge Marilyn Milian….
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
Nick, do you think AJ is available tomorrow?
By the way, here is Mo receiving his “Judge M” robe from People’s Court Judge Marilyn Milian….
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
Tonight was a great example of why the idea of the 8th inning and the 8th inning “role” out of the pen is such a ridiculously over rated idea.
The key inning in this game was the top of the 7th. Bottom of the 6th Damon hits that home run. Top of the 7th the rays have up Upton, Crawford and Longoria. That’s their best chance to score for the rest of the game.
Hughes was fantastic. Which again speaks to how Hughes in maturing but is also partly due to the fact that pitching 1 inning at a time just is much, much easier than starting. Not even remotely close to as difficult.
Coke in the vaunted 8th inning faced Pena, Zobrist, Dillon and Hernandez. Good hitters but they’re not Upton, Crawford and Longoria.
Coke was ok but even then he gets out of it. It’s only 1 inning.
The team is on a role. I know that people have issues with the pen. But the team likely has the internal pieces to make it work, particularly down the stretch.
Not likely they’ll find an arm better than Hughes to use out of the pen in the trade market. Same thing for Bruney and Marte.
I don’t want to see Hughes in the pen throwing 1 inning at a time. He needs to throw at least 150 innings (he’s at 55 total right now).
But the team has options going forward.
Coke is the new Proctor
He isin’t very good, but somehow always finds his way into tight games and big spots
Betsy: I’m not sure about tomorrow, but I fully expect to see AJ on Tuesday. And not in the bullpen, either.
cool italics
I agree 100% with everything you say in that post CB. I hope you are actually Brian Cashman posting in disguise. (CB is BC backwards, I’ll just assume it’s you Brian)
Anyways, I really enjoy watching Hughes pitch but the best thing for his development is to go back to AAA and continue starting ballgames. There’s no doubt he’ll be back in the majors at some point.
That was an easy feeling game for a change. Yuuusee looked good out of the BP popping 96 and 95 and 94 mph.
patrick-
personally i think cb is smarter
yanks 0 for 0 tonight with RISP and they won.
CB is right pitching 1 inning effectively is much much easier then being a starter so most guys with good stuff should be succesful in 1 inning stints.
I was suprised Hughes only went 1… Mo no way pitch him tommorrow. Pitch aceves, hughes, etc if they need to…
“I agree 100% with everything you say in that post randy l.
I hope you are actually Randy Levine posting in disguise.
(I’ll just assume it’s you Randy)
randy,
given your love of cashman i’m not sure if that’s a complement for an insult!
team looks real good right now. if wang continues to make progress and looks to be getting back to his old form this is a potentially steam roller team.
I though the pitching would be there. The offense is a real surprise. Last time I checked every starter was in the top 10 in baseball in OPS.
I wouldn’t mind Phil Coke closing tomorrow if MO can’t go.
True randy. I meant it as a compliment, hopefully he doesn’t take it the wrong way
I only hope that Phil will not be set back by pitching in the pen……eventually he’s going to go back to starting and will have to adjust to that. I’m just so encouraged by his stuff and control – he tore through the heart of the Rays lineup tonight. I agree, CB – 1 inning at a time is a bad way to use Phil. Cash said they wanted to keep him stretched out – I’d guess he can go a few innings on Tuesday. If they can’t find him consistent work (and not just on Andy or Wang days), to AAA Phil goes….it’s the only way he’ll get in his innings and keep stretched out.
I am thinking that Phil wouldn’t be used in back-to-back games regardless, but with mystery Wang going on Wednesday… wake up and smell the coffee?
Wait a second, Betsy, you think Phil can go a few innings on Tuesday? What about tomorrow?
Phil Hughes will be 24 next year. He’s no longer a kid.
He’s getting major league hitters out. I’ve gone back and forth, but I think it would be a mistake to send him back to AAA.
I don’t think it will set back his career. Many starting pitchers have commenced their career in the pen. Next year, let him throw as many innings as he can. Maybe it will be 150, maybe less, maybe more. What might happen in 2010 is too speculative. Hughes can help us here and now.
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“I really enjoy watching Hughes pitch but the best thing for his development is to go back to AAA and continue starting ballgames. There’s no doubt he’ll be back in the majors at some point.”
Part of the challenge for this season is how long can they hang on without making a bull pen trade.
That’s partly why winning now is so important.
If Bruney and Marte come back and are effective they can let hughes keep starting in the minors.
Hughes needs to throw another 70-80 innings and after that they can bring him up and safely put him in the pen if needed.
Hughes will likely be in the pen in the post season.
And he’ll be a weapon.
As good as this team has been in the regular season they should be a much better post season team.
Those power arms they have in the rotation coupled with being able to shorten the pen with Hughes and even Pettite will be brutal for other teams to face.
As I said before, this team is remarkably consistent – they just find ways to win. I would like to see them cut down on their errors, but no complaints. This is the best Yankee team in years …….on and off the field.
Nick, I don’t like how the Yankees are using AJ. He doesn’t get enough work and now he’s going up against one of his very bestest friends, Joshie Beckett. They should use him 1 inning tomorrow and then spell Wang on Tuesday.
Nick, I think the Yanks got as much use out of Phil as they possibly could. Trade him now for a new bat boy….
cb-
it’s been crossing my mind with increasing frequency that this may be a very special yankee team.
there’s a long way to go, but being able to throw out a good starter every day with this offense makes them more likely to win than lose on any given day. how much over .600 they go is the question.
Betsy, you win. I’m blinking.
Tomorrow *is* Tuesday.
Arghghghhghghhhg!
Betsy – what day is it today?
If it’s Tuesday, This must be Belgium.
Sorry, DT, but I’m going out soon and I needed closure.
“it’s been crossing my mind with increasing frequency that this may be a very special yankee team.”
randy,
I think they were waiting for this past off season for a long time and bet the house in it working out.
This winter was the perfect storm – if they could execute. They had a ton of money coming off the books. And the free agent market was so deep (especially with arms).
And it looks like their bet has paid off. CC is phenomenal – best pitcher they’ve had in years and years (quiet honestly – he’s better than even the guys they had starting on the dynasty teams.).
What can you say about Tex. What a great signing. He’s been the engine driving this offense.
AJ’s been ok and I think is picking it up. Swisher has been inconsistent but is getting hot again and they gave up almost nothing for him.
It was a great winter and it’s paying off in spades now. This is a brutal team to both pitch to and to try to hit against.
And finally both Hughes and Melky have been great. Life savers.
The root sucess of this team lies in that decision to not trade for Johan Santana and bet the house on signing CC.
To me that’s where the origins of this team trace back to.
Swisher might be inconsistant, but hes on pace to hit 30 home runs, drive in close to 100 runs and his OBP sits near 390. I’ll take that anyday, especially from a guy who really should be a bench player.