Game 61: Mets at Yankees (with pre-game updates and the arrival of a new belt)
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YANKEES (34-26)
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Cabrera LF
Gardner C
Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (3-1, 3.79).
METS (31-27)
Cora SS
Martinez LF
Beltran CF
Wright 3B
Church RF
Sheffield DH
Murphy 1B
Schneider C
Castillo 2B
Pitching: RHP Livan Hernandez (5-1, 3.88).
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES, SNY.
STATE OF THE SERIES: The Yankees were 2-4 against the Mets last season and are 13-17 against their city rivals since 2004. They are 20-13 overall against the Mets.
INTERLEAGUE KINGS: The Yankees are 124-89 in interleague games, the best mark in baseball.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GODZILLA: Hideki Matsui turns 35 years old today. He hit a game-winning, sixth-inning grand slam on his birthday last season at Oakland, becoming the 19th player all-time and the first Yankee to hit a grand slam on his birthday according to SABR’s David Vincent.
WRONG DIRECTION: The Yankees have lost three straight, four of their last six and five of their last eight.
THEM, TOO: The Mets have lost two straight and six of their last nine. The Subway Series! Only on Fox!
GETTING EVEN: The Yankees are now 9-6 in one-run games after leaving Fenway Park.
PITCHING, PITCHING, PITCHING: The Yankees are 21-0 when the opposition scores three runs or less.
LEADING MAN: Derek Jeter has 11 hits in the first inning of the last 19 games.
THAT’S RISP AS IN REALLY INSIGNIFICANT SCORING PRODUCTION: The Yankees were 3 of 28 with runners in scoring position in the Boston series and are 7 of their last 62, a fine .113 average.
HISTORIC DAY: This from the Yankees: Today marks the 14th anniversary of the first career home run for Alex Rodriguez. It was against Tom Gordon at the Kingdom. Rodriguez’s 561 home runs through today are the most for any player within 14 years of hitting his first homer.
METS MAKE A MOVE: This release from the Mets … The Mets today announced righthanded pitcher John Maine will be placed on the 15-Day Disabled List, retroactive to June 7, with right shoulder weakness. To complete the team’s 25-man roster, the Mets have selected the contract of lefthanded pitcher Jon Switzer from Buffalo (AAA) of the International League. Switzer, who was signed as a minor league free agent on January 22nd, was 0-2 with a 2.13 ERA with Buffalo. The 29-year-old had allowed 21 hits with nine walks and 29 strikeouts at the time of his promotion. The 6-3, 210-pound southpaw has spent parts of four seasons on the major league level, all with the Tampa Bay Rays.
Back with much more later. Lots of posts today.
UPDATE, 5:13 p.m.: Sounds like Brian Bruney could be activated tomorrow. They’re discussing it now.
UPDATE, 5:57 p.m.: Johnny Damon is out of the lineup for assorted reasons. He hasn’t played well of late and he said his eyes have ben “fluttering.” Damon said he felt like he was going to pass out on the field last night. He wondered whether it was a lingering side effect of the concussion he suffered five years ago.
He’s getting checked out today and said he is available.
In terms of other stuff:
Girardi said Brad Penny threw at A-Rod on purpose and should be disciplined by MLB. He also hinted the Yankees could be waiting for payback. … The Yankees had their flight delayed last night and most of the players didn’t arrive home until 4:30 p.m. … Sounds like Xavier Nady is still a ways off. “Good days and bad days,” he said. X did not sound particularly confident in his ability to throw. But he said it is improving over time.
UPDATE, 6:02 p.m.: Here is the greatest blog update ever. Yes, ever.
CC Sabathia knows the famed wrestler Jerry “The King” Lawler. The King heard about the Yankees awarding a toy WWE championship belt to the player of the game and sent them an actual championship belt. CC handed it to me and the has to weigh 15 pounds. Here’s a photo of it:
The King said he is getting a special belt made with the Yankees logo. How great is that? CC said his son, CC III, is a big wrestling fan and they attend the matches several times a year. As somebody who once went to Lincoln Park Ballroom to see the fabulous Don Muraco and Mr. X of Parts Unknown, I know where CC is coming from.
In the interest of keeping you in the loop, I requested permission to snap a photo of the belt. Thanks to Jason Zillo for the help. The LoHud Yankees Blog, bringing you ridiculous clubhouse news since 2006.
UPDATE, 6:14 p.m.: Mark Teixeira was fired up today. It seems that Red Sox owner John Henry has a Twitter account and last night wrote “The MT curse?” when the Yankees lost. Boston is still steamed, apparently, that Tex signed with the Yankees.
“How old is Mr. Henry?” Tex said, who said he didn’t want to get into it with a “70-something-year-old man about baseball. … I think it’s a little silly. It’s actually very silly.”
Henry is actually 59, which makes Tex’s comment even funnier. Of course he looks about 80.
UPDATE, 7:03 p.m.: Beautiful weather as we’re about to get underway. Lots of empty seats. Heard the traffic was brutal today. Several players were late arriving to the park.
UPDATE, 7:06 p.m.: It’s the Subway Series, a showcase for baseball in New York. Here’s who the Yankees had sing the anthem and throw out the first pitch …
… Nobody. Yes, nobody. The Army Band recording and that was it. Hey, it’s not like there are any singers in New York or famous former players around. Wouldn’t want to distract folks from going to the art gallery or the Steiner Sports display of Game-Used Dirt.
UPDATE, 7:14 p.m.: Thats quite a lineup the Mets are running out there. Beltran, Wright, the ghost of Sheff and assorted other dudes.
UPDATE, 7:38 p.m.: “It’s a C-Bomb for Robbie … ” Oh, wait a second. Anyway, 1-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 7:47 p.m.: Well-placed sources in Scranton (OK. Chad Jennings) report that OF Todd Linden has been sold to the Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles in Japan.
UPDATE, 8:02 p.m.: Joba has suddenly lost his control. Three walks and a hit batter have given the Mets a run. Beltran walked on a 10-pitch AB to tie the score.
UPDATE, 8:06 p.m.: Joba hits Church with an 0-2 pitch to force in another run. The Mets have scored twice without a hit. He is over 70 pitches in the third inning. Another mess for a starter.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: That was a 43-pitch inning for Joba. Why does this happen to him so often? Again, the Yankees have trouble with their pitching.
UPDATE, 8:20 p.m.: New Tex hitting approach: Picture face of John Henry on ball, smack hard. Yankees 3-2. That ball was crushed, too.
UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: Joba working on a one-hitter!
UPDATE, 8:40 p.m.: Joba with the one-hitter along with five walks and two HBPs. Looks like he is dunzo.
UPDATE, 8:46 p.m: I’m starting to see why Ozzie Guillen felt the way he did about Nick Swisher … Meanwhile, Carlos Beltran is the best at stealing third I have seen. He picks his spots very well. Yankees in trouble again as Tomko has runners on the corners and nobody out.
UPDATE, 8:51 p.m.: The Yankees have some issues here. Hughes is not available, Aceves threw 10 pitches last night and he’s apparently the new set-up man. They may need somebody to give them three innings. But who?
Ugly game for the Yankees so far. Walks, HBPs, errors, etc.
UPDATE, 8:53 p.m.: Sheff just did what Sheff does, crushing a pitch down the line in left. Mets lead 6-3. Sheff pimped it a little when he hit it.
That’s 505 homers for Sheff, 24th in history.
UPDATE, 9:12 p.m.: Another game, another four homers in five innings at Yankee Stadium. You wonder if those road RISP numbers are related to a false sense of security built up at home because the ball flies out here.
At any rate, 6-4 Mets. I’m guessing that’s not how it ends here.
UPDATE, 9:22 p.m.: Lots of Mets fans here. Even the vaunted Legends seats are mostly full.
UPDATE, 9:28 p.m.: Jeter slugging .529 at home, .389 at the road at the moment. Based on my scorebook, six of his seven homers at Yankee Stadium (out of nine overall) have come to right field.
UPDATE, 9:41 p.m.: He did it again, a home run for Matsui on his birthday. The three-run shot makes it 7-6 Yankees.
A slam last year, a three-run shot this season.
UPDATE, 9:50 p.m.: Can they activate Bruney now? Yankees are going to need another home run or three by the time this inning is over.
UPDATE, 10:06 p.m.: Alex smacked himself in the helmet after that strikeout like he was Curly of The Three Stooges. Yankees blew a big chance there.
UPDATE, 10:18 p.m.: Mariano in the eighth inning of a tied game. I guess the Yankees really want this one. But it makes sense with Beltran up.
UPDATE, 10:21 p.m.: So much for that. Beltran walks, Wright RBI double. More issues for Mo. This all goes back to Joba giving them four innings. Plus Girardi has no faith in useless parts like Jose Veras. Yankees down again, 7-6.
UPDATE, 10:36 p.m.: If the Mets finish this off, they will have beaten the Yankees in six of the last eight games between the teams. The Yankees also would have losses in six of their last nine games this season. The heat will be on full blast.
UPDATE, 10:53 p.m.: Wow, walking Tex to get to A-Rod. Shows you what they think of him. What a crazy game.
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Go YANKS!
no excuses…play today win today!
“WRONG DIRECTION: The Yankees have lost three straight, four of their last six and five of their last eight.”
Ouch. We are in a slide.
Gardner catching or CF???
uh oh, no Damon?
i dont think posada is gonna enjoy having to share homeplate with gardner…i hear gardner does not pee on his hands
““WRONG DIRECTION: The Yankees have lost three straight, four of their last six and five of their last eight.””
That’s what happens when you get swept.
Otherwise, the Yankees have lost one series since this time last month.
“RHP Livan Hernandez (5-1, 3.88)”
where are all the people who thought i was an idiot for saying hernandez was a useful pitcher to have on a team and better than hughes and kenedy last year ?
hernandez will revert to the back of his card and end up with a 5 something era, but veteran guys like him are useful to have on a team.
no damon?
“Ha!” I thought as I scanned the bottom of the lineup, Swisher can think about his baserunning blunders on the bench for tonight. Then I saw him batting second.
Maybe he has good numbers against Livan?
Maybe Damon needs to sit one out?
Oh well, if Swisher stops tweeting on the basepaths, it should be ok.
Seriously? Cano still in the 5 spot? He’s got the 2nd worst OPS of anyone in the starting lineup, and the worst OBP. This is absurd and it’s costing the team runs.
“The Yankees were 2-4 against the Mets last season and are 13-17 against their city rivals since 2004. They are 20-13 overall against the Mets.”
They lost 17 since 2004, but only 13 overall??
“where are all the people who thought i was an idiot for saying hernandez was a useful pitcher to have on a *national league* team…?”
I love Livan this season. Last season he got DFA’d by a team that didn’t make the playoffs. I guess that team could just as well have been the Yankees.
From the last thread:
Cano’s in a mini-slump. He has to start being more selective. This we all can agree on. But that goes out the window with 2 strikes and an ump callin borderline outside fastballs strikes all night. You can only hope a pitcher misses @ that point.
Scorpio – you said Arod hasn’t been clutch lately. I was just presenting a case, just last night, where he did.
“hey lost 17 since 2004, but only 13 overall??”
I think they are 20-13 against the Mets at Yankee Stadium since interleague play began.
Let’s see how the Sons of ‘04 react this weekend. My bet is that someone is gonna pay and that someone is the New York Metropolitans.
Despite what the polyannas have to say, those werent just any ole 3 games the Yanks lost. Those were 3 games where their weaknesses were exposed to the point where mothers hid their childrens’ eyes.
The good news is that a false sense of security is falling over the Red Sox Nation. The Sox 14 – 0 record against the Yankees, Tigers and Orioles is obliterating the light shined on their 22 – 26 record against all the other teams they’ve played.
Continuing from a prior thread,
“What was more interesting is how he lived the whole night on the outer half of the plate (and 3-4 inches off the plate thanks to last night’s ump). Don’t know whether that was his plan or a response to the early warning, but he was hitting his spots, getting stronger as he went and was generally pretty special.”
I think CC did that in last night’s game for a few reasons. The main reason was that it was such a close game and it was clear that the offense was inept against Brad Penny. When a pitcher senses that he’s going to pitch away because a mistake away may be a double while a mistake inside is a HR, especially against a dangerous team like boston and in a park like fenway.
I think the warning may have been a factor but not a big one. I’d guess CC’s plan was to tend to stay away given their line up and the park.
But that said I think he continued to stay away as the game went on because the offense was so hapless.
If it was clear to us watching that the yankees go down 2-0 chances are the ball game’s over, it’s apparent to CC as well.
He’s a really great pitcher. He really is. This team is very fortunate to have him.
I’ll have him throw a big game for my side any day.
“Cano’s in a mini-slump.”
.295 OBP over his last 50 games. That’s an out machine, not a mini-slump.
Joe has really lost it Brett is a catcher now. I think I’ll join the fire Joe chorus.
I know people get pissed when there are complaints about the line-up, but I agree with the comments about Cano. He should NOT be fifth, behind A-Rod.
“Rodriguez’s 561 home runs through today are the most for any player within 14 years of hitting his first homer.”
congratulations! and all that money he made! see kids, doing drugs DOES pay off!
Cano and Posada should be swapped.
oops, my mistake the Sox are 16 – 0 againt the Yanks, Tigers and O’s. Mea culpa.
I know it’s a no-no around here to complain about the lineup, but Cano has no business in the 5th spot.
We need to just beat these clowns
What a terrible lineup
Where is Melky? Where is Damon?
We are in no position to give away games without our A lineup.
Gardenhoser’s catching too
Repost from earlier – Just when I was starting to believe Joe G was going to do ok, not great mind you, but okay he folds in this series. I am having a hard time understanding his moves, lack of moves and sheer lack of passion.
1. Question starting Gardner against Beckett & Matsui against Wakefield. (Seems backwards.) Wakefield is more likely to walk a hitter than Beckett walking Gardner. Also, why wasn’t Posada’s bat in against Penny as a DH?
2. Using Gardner as a PR and not having him steal 2B. Sacrifice bunt to move him to 2nd. That was stupid! Maybe a sacrifice to move him to 3rd, but if blazes can’t steal 2nd we didn’t deserve to win.
3. When Wang Pitched and the NYY players were having a hard time with Balls & Strikes, he should have argued and gotten tossed to make a point of how the Ump was an embarrassment. Joe G sat meekly!
4. When ARod was hit in the 1st inning Joe G should have argued with the Ump to get Penny tossed. Everyone knew it was intentional. The umps should have been made to listen and Joe G should have displayed the course of action he wanted. Maybe he should have put a pinch pitcher in to throw at Youk. So what if he gets tossed. I hate his roll over mentality.
5. There is no way CC should have started the eighth inning. And certainly no way for him to pitch past the 10 pitch AB by Peds. If Joe G didn’t have the guts to go with Mo after his blunder of leaving a gassed CC out there, then he said he was just a figure head reading someone else’s book. Aceves would have done better to start an inning. Still might have lost, but you need to put him in a spot to have a chance for success. I thought there was an unwritten rule that when your starter gives you a great effort near the end of the game you take him out before the winning run gets on base. It is a respect thing!
6. Wed night Joe G used a Pena as a PR for ARod to steal a base. He took one of his best hitters out of the lineup trying to tie a game on the road. ARod could have stolen the base like he did a night earlier and still have his bat.
7. I liked the fake bunt/hit and run. I’ll give him some credit for that. I believe that was the only hit & run in the series from an NL manager who likes to run. BTW, if Varitek is catching every Yankee that can steal a base needs to be running. Jeter, ARod, Melky, Cano, etc.
8. I stated earlier this year that Joe G would be fired by AS Break. I thought recently that was not an option anymore. I believe Joe G has brought this back into play. A similar series with the Mets and all bets are off as far as Joe G remaining for a full season and maybe even the AS break.
9. Panic! Leaders don’t do this. We have gone from 13 pitchers w/o a long man to a 12 pitchers w/o a setup. No one knows there roles beyond their last outing. (Except Mo and even that changes.) A manager has to prepare his team to win. It is the little things that do that. Making a decision and being consistent. Also, he should be propping up a player when it is needed.
Pete, I watched your live video chat and I wanted to comment on how smart you are. You really know your stuff. I was very impressed with your knowledge.
They better win tonight and it better not be close
If they lose tonight, they might as go home for the winter.
Mike June 12th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
What a terrible lineup
Where is Melky? Where is Damon?
We are in no position to give away games without our A lineup.
you know Melkys last name is Cabrera right?
“congratulations! and all that money he made! see kids, doing drugs DOES pay off!”
I always disliked the “what about the precious, innocent children” argument. The kids will be fine. They are more resilient than us dumb adults.
“Where is Melky”
Just a little to the left of where he usually is.
I wonder if they should leave it this way, with Swisher batting 2nd and DAMON inserted into the 5 hole when he’s back in the lineup.
Jeter
Swisher
Teixeira
A-Rod
Damon
Posada
Cano
Matsui
Cabrera
Swisher has nearly a .400 OBP and has been hot lately, while until very recently Damon has been one of our best run producers and has been hitting a decent number of HR. He also hits well with RISP, which you need to have behind the top of our lineup to make them get better pitches to hit.
Of course, Girardi wouldn’t actually go with a move that could be backed by statistics!
I think CC pitched great. I still am upset at Joe G for leaving him in there so long! Too many pitches in June mean a bad day in October. Also, if I remember correctly, CC went over 120 pitches in April when Yanks won 9-0 or something like that.
I am not impressed by Joe G!
Damon had a “half day off” as DH a couple of games ago but is out of the lineup against a righty. Is he injured?
I generally don’t worry to much about the lineup.
But, Girardi is making a mistake continuing to bat Cano fifth.
This year, here’s Cano’s BA, OBP and SLG with bases empty, men on and runners in scoring position:
Bases Empty: .321/.350/.511; OPS: .861
Men On: .261/.301/.409; OPS: .710
RISP: .234/.268/.377; OPS: .645
Think that’s a fluke? Here’s his career stats:
Bases Empty: .318/.350/.505; OPS: .855
Men On: .284/.317/.426; OPS: .743
RISP: .266/.301/.413; OPS: .714.
If you break down his individual years, you will find he has, (except for 2007, when he hit about the same, but worse with RISP) always hit significantly better with bases empty than with runners on.
Why is this significant? Batting fifth, he follows these on base percentages:
Jeter: .370
Damon: .361
Tex: .391
ARod: .393
This is a recipe for failure. Cano needs to be moved away from ARod and Tex (and Swisher). I’d suggest batting him after Matsui.
Cano should not be batting in a RBI spot. Bat him 8th and watch him get hot.
“.295 OBP over his last 50 games.”
That can’t possibly be true. Is that for real?
I agree CB! I’ll go to battle with CC any day.
Melky is batting 8th and playing left field.
I would rather see Posada protecting ARod and batting 5th.
“That can’t possibly be true. Is that for real?”
Sadly, it is.
I wonder how happy Damon is with Girardi’s decision to rest him completely and DH Matsui instead of him. Something tells me– not very.
And why why why, is Robinson Cano, the human rally killer, with his woeful .333 OBA, his mediocre 109 OPS+, and his wanting 3.39 P/PA protecting A-Rod in the lineup.
Is the benefit separating the two lefties of Cano and Matsui with Posada really more than the cost of having Cano rather than Posada protect A-Rod.
Wasn’t Girardi supposed to be the manager who read Baseball Prospectus and endeared himself to the amateur sabermetricians?
Melky should be in RF & Swish in LF.
“I know it’s a no-no around here to complain about the lineup, but Cano has no business in the 5th spot.”
That’s what makes this blog ridiculous sometimes. You have to can the criticism or people start calling you a whiner. What a joke. I’ve been saying that Cano shouldn’t be in that spot since Posada got back but people were telling me to shut it because Cano had a good BA. The bottom line is that he’s not patient enough and too streaky to be batting higher than 6. Somebody should ask Joe what he is doing there. And I don’t care if for some fluke reason he goes 5-5 tonight. He does not belong behind A-Rod.
Sean Serritella, weren’t you angry your two questions didn’t get picked?
kill.schill(ing)
I think Joe G only read his own press clippings!
Cano is hitting .291 batting 5th. He never walks though, OBP is a mere .310.
5 walks in 141 AB in the 5 spot. Five.
“Sean Serritella, weren’t you angry your two questions didn’t get picked?”
He’s angling for the next free water bottle.
“I love Livan this season. Last season he got DFA’d by a team that didn’t make the playoffs. I guess that team could just as well have been the Yankees.”
nick in sf-
ah , one of my livan detractors. i can’t believe you’re still trying to talk smack when you clearly didn’t understand the value of livan.
he held the spot for liriano and he went 10-8 with a 5.48 era while hughes and kennedy went O for the season with 9 eras.
the twins missed on the last day of the season and had someone like hughes and kennedy been there ,they would have missed by the fourth of july.
i still think you should be sending me moose bars for turning you on to livan since you’re making money betting on him now.
“But, Girardi is making a mistake continuing to bat Cano fifth.”
I don’t care much about the line up order either but this really is curious.
The idea of having alternating left-right hitters seems to be driving girardi’s decision making. He is really enamored with lefty righty match ups.
Having Cano and matsui back to back would be a crime against symmetry I suppose.
“That can’t possibly be true. Is that for real?”
You are kidding, right? Have you been watching the games? He never walks, let alone get into a favorable hitter’s count. Robbie’s BA and OBP will not be more than .20 points removed from each other by the end of the season.
That’s Cano, don’t you know? Or were you deceived by the first two weeks of the season?
Maybe Damon is dizzy? There could be more at play here.
Also, I think Matsui will tee off on Livan’s snail cheese.
Yankees: The main difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox is relief pitching. The Yankees’ bullpen needs help. Prediction: Someone such as Houston reliever LaTroy Hawkins(notes) would help close the gap.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
People need to stop complaining about the lineup. Look at the garbage lineup the Mets are putting up. If the yanks dont win this game it will be embarrasing
Damon is 2-13 against Livan. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Maybe we are cursed…
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06.....f=baseball
http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=11449
“5 walks in 141 AB in the 5 spot. Five.”
That would be the same no matter where he was hitting.
Yankees fans killed Latroy last year. It made me sick.
Girardi is obsessed with matchups in general. Why else would he continue to go for lefty-lefty matchups out of the pen in tie games despite the fact that Phil Coke keeps giving up HOME RUNS to lefties?
Coke vs. Lefties- .205 BAA, 4 HR
Coke vs. Righties- .195 BAA,1 HR
Or how about his decision to leave in Sabathia last night to face Drew who promptly singled off him? He is hitting .260 against LHP and .270 against RHP, not a huge difference. Wouldn’t it make more sense to bring in a guy to get OUTS rather than doing it based on the “book”
Also is something wrong with Damon he looked hurt when he dropped the fly ball.
I have less problem with Cano batting 5th than Melky in LF. I like Cano’s potential and I believe a hot streak is on the near horizon for him as well.
Baseball is a game of confidence and I believe the Yankees will get their swagger back. Hopefully soon. The Manager has few things he can do to help a team, but there are loads they can do to hurt one. I can think of at least 5 games right now where Joe G seriously hurt the Yanks this year.
“People need to stop complaining about the lineup. Look at the garbage lineup the Mets are putting up. If the yanks dont win this game it will be embarrasing”
See, here we go. Can criticize jack or some person calls it whining. Forget the Mets line-up! Nobody is talking about our line-up vs. their line-up.
I just want Girardi to answer why he has the most impatient and streaky hitter behind A-Rod. That’s it. Answer the question.
ha, randy, I was actually aware of Livan’s existance before there was a LoHud Yankee blog. I once saw him throw a gem as an SF Giants at Wrigley. Those were the days.
I’d be happy to send you a Moose bar, but my whole stock is being held hostage by my brother-in-law in North Carolina. I won’t be seeing them for a while.
“Melky should be in RF & Swish in LF.”
My only guess is that Yankee Stadium’s big LF, they’d rather have Melky than Swish covering all of the ground.
Maybe there’s a good reason Damon is not in the starting the line-up. We should wait and see before we jump all over Girardi.
“Wasn’t Girardi supposed to be the manager who read Baseball Prospectus and endeared himself to the amateur sabermetricians?”
That seems like a long time ago doesn’t it?
Way too many people in the media, yankee bloggers and fans made enormous assumptions about who girardi would be as a manager.
The dislike for Torre was so strong in many quarters that people constructed Girardi’s identity as yankee manager as the anti-torre.
I remember the first day of last season when people saw baseball prospectus on girardi’s desk – many people in the media made note of that. Bloggers ran wild with it. Girardi would be in the manny acta branch of managing but more so. Girardi was an engineer in college. He understood math, etc. etc.
It’s ironic because in some ways girardi is much less sabermetrically inclined than Torre was. Case in point – Girardi’s love for bunting makes no sense from a probability perspective. Torre never did that much.
Damon vs Livian Hernandz:
2 for 15 (.158 BA), 2 walks, 3 k’s, .267 obp
Maybe, just maybe, Joe Girardi knows this too.
so cano gets benched for having his head up his elbow last year and swisher continues to play for having his head up his elbow 2 straight games…girardi must be a moneyball apostle…
Any word on if Damon is injured?
If the yanks dont win this game it will be embarrasing.
Deja vu…didn’t we just say this last night about Penny?
“Maybe, just maybe, Joe Girardi knows this too.”
It’s in his baseball prospectus. Quick! To the presses!
“so cano gets benched for having his head up his elbow last year and swisher continues to play for having his head up his elbow 2 straight games…girardi must be a moneyball apostle…”
Cano didn’t get benched until September. So, it’s only June, give Joe time, he will bench Swish. Apparently, Girardi only benches guys when it’s too late and doesn’t matter.
Carl
June 12th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Yankees fans killed Latroy last year. It made me sick.
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Hawkins is a bum he cant handle the big market pressure. He will only pitch well in places like Houston and Colorado. How dare he wear Paul O’Neil’s number. Hawkins is not a warrior.
the fifth and 6th starter on any team is a problem because the veteran ones can’t be sent down to triple a to wait for injuries so it’s the young guys like hughes or buccholz that do that.
if hughes moves into the rotation then who’s the 6th starter? aceves ? that means he has to go back to scranton and build up innings.
there’s no easy way for having 6th starters ready.
“Having Cano and matsui back to back would be a crime against symmetry I suppose.”
So why not compromise and swap Matsui with Cano in the 5th spot. As hot & cold as Matsui is, he seems to be the better option behind A-Rod if Posada can’t be that guy. This would be a good Joe Girardi show question.
Normally the subway series makes me nervous because the Yanks are always the ones under pressure to win. After the last 3 games? I just don’t care………..
There is no reason to give Damon a day off unless he is hurt.
I remember a Yankee, I think it was Whitey Ford, talk about their rivalry with the Dodgers and he said “It didn’t matter if we were playing them in Tiddly Winks, we knew we were going to beat them.”
Where in God’s name is that attitude for Boston?
We can nit pick all the moves yesterday but that exact quote is how Boston now feels about us.
My prediction is the Sons of ‘04 will rise from the pile of bloody sox and have a 5 -1 homestand.
And anyone besides Mo in our pen can handle big market pressure Jay?
i’d be interested to know (but too lazy to actually do it myself)to see if ARod’s “slump” started when cano became the regular 5th place hitter…
The question I pose is why? New York is a superior city, our franchise is dedicated to doing whatever it takes to win, and we have the history to prove it. When did Boston get annionted as the Saints of Baseball and the Yankees deemed evil incarnate?
“I have less problem with Cano batting 5th than Melky in LF. I like Cano’s potential and I believe a hot streak is on the near horizon for him as well.”
RayVT-
Cano’s potential hot streak is not the point. The fact is, over his entire career, this year, and in each individual year of his career but one, Cano has hit worse with runners on than with the bases empty.
That’s not a small sample size issue. I don’t know how to explain it, but it seems to be a fact. Given that, batting him behind two guys who get on base all the time doesn’t help the team or Cano. I don’t think the righty-lefty balance offsets the performance loss.
I’d move him behind Matsui, who next to Gardner has the lowest regular OBP, even though it would result in two lefties in a row. You’d see Cano’s overall production go up if you did, like magic.
“See, here we go. Can criticize jack or some person calls it whining.”
Stultus, this is a free country and a free blog. If we want to complain about Cano batting 5th, that’s our choice. I’m not going to remain silent about something that doesn’t make any sense just because it might ruffle some feathers. If people don’t like my posts, don’t read them.
Cano shouldn’t hit 5th.
“Normally the subway series makes me nervous because the Yanks are always the ones under pressure to win. After the last 3 games? I just don’t care………..”
Betsy, I understand where you are coming from. I care because we can’t let the nightmare that was the BOS series continue. The Mutts and the Nats are teams we should beat. Losing to them would cause me a bit of concern.
I also want to see what AJ brings to the mound on Sunday. I’m not exactly looking for him to beat Santana. I’m just looking for him to turn in an improved performance over the last one.
laura – i just saw your tag name (Give Wang a chance)and i couldn’t help but think of the story that was out today that the woman who was the inspiration of the song “Lucy in the sky with diamonds” is very sick (lupus)..
Can you imagine how great it would be if one of the greatest bands in history used one of us as an inspiration for one of the greatest songs in history…
“laura – i just saw your tag name (Give Wang a chance)and i couldn’t help but think of the story that was out today that the woman who was the inspiration of the song “Lucy in the sky with diamonds” is very sick (lupus)..”
I saw that article as well. It was very nice of Julian Lennon to reach out to her.
DB
Unfortunately you are right. I feel like it is the bully mentality on the playgrounds. Boston keeps pushing and the Yanks keep looking around for help. ARod gets plunked in the 1st inning and all is quiet on the field. A ball goes near a RSox player and the team escalates it immediately. Joe G sits meekly in his clean uniform and doesn’t bother to argue when he has a right too even. It is a sad state. Torre would at least argue if one of his star players was upset. (Jeter, Posada, etc)
As much as I was opposed to seeing Girardi as Manager, I at least thought he would bring some passion to the table as well as some faster pace on the bases. Boy was I wrong about the additions!!! I hope I end up being wrong about Joe G too, but he is doing everything in his power to show me I was right about him all along. A control freak (which Joe G is) by definition is fearful of the truth!
hey yankees.
get ur crap together and beat the AAA mets. k thanks bye.
Santana is hittable. Bustnett can’t take us out of the game though like he did against Boston.
“Sean Serritella, weren’t you angry your two questions didn’t get picked?”
lol. No, I wasn’t angry. My life isn’t going to end. I wouldn’t watch Pete if I was angry at him. He just knew every question and he didn’t hesitate with any of the questions. He knew what he was talking about.
SJ44s nephew officially signed. I know I am late. Congrats.
Wave Your Hat
I totally agree with you, but I was just saying that I am more concerned with Melky in LF vs RF.
No Damon throws a monkey wrench into the whole lefty right thing if you want to move Cano down. The only other lineup that would allow you to do that would be if Gardner lead off or you replace Cano with Matsui. Frankly, I’m more concerned with them winning the game. I’ll trust the lineup to Joe and to the fact that he has his finger on the pulse of the team than anyone who is posting here.
Curious to see how they bounce back.
Livan Hernadez is probably the best matchup we can find. Our hitters have like a .427 BA against him. Joba has been our 2nd best pitcher.
They cannot let yesterday’s disappointment carry into today.
Billy Martin in the 70’s would have instantly been fired if he went 0-8 against Boston. Or at the very least the team would have gotten blasted by George.
Accountability isn’t the same as it used to be in New York.
This is tangential and uninformed as I’ve never seen his medicals, but part of me wishes the yankees had drafted Tanner Scheppers and stuck him in the pen this year.
His shoulder might look awful but if you think he could help over the short run I would have been tempted to use that pick on scheppers.
Huge arm. What a talent. Texas his assembling an army of hard throwing pitchers down there.
Scheppers is sitting 97-99 right now in the independent league. How bad could his shoulder be?
At least there is finally consensus that Cano doesn’t belong in the 5th spot. Now Pete, it is up to you to pose the question to Girardi. For what reason is Cano batting 5th? You’re welcome for the question. Don’t let him off the hook with some BS answer either. Run with it.
And, although the sample size is small, I’m curious too as to what A-Rod’s performance is with Cano batting fifth and Cano in another spot.
Laura, yeah I know. We speak our minds, and they will too. I just think it should be ok to be critical without being called a whiner.
Funny how some people were killing Girardi for calling this a big series, yet in the same breath said that the Sox are not in our heads.
Which is it? If the Sox were not in our heads, then it shouldn’t matter what the manager says. The manager proclaiming this a big series made them tighter? Well, that doesn’t speak well on the players then, does it?
For the record, Girardi’s words were meaningless. I doubt the team even knew he said them. However, if you try and make a big deal out of his words, you are indirectly saying that the Sox were in our heads.
“Billy Martin in the 70’s would have instantly been fired if he went 0-8 against Boston. Or at the very least the team would have gotten blasted by George.
Accountability isn’t the same as it used to be in New York.”
Vb03, accountability didn’t work too well in the 80’s.
A whiner is a guy who complains about something you are in favor of.
“No Damon throws a monkey wrench into the whole lefty right thing if you want to move Cano down.”
That’s overrated just like bringing in a lefty reliever to face a lefty hitter. Bring in the guy who can get the outs, not a Felix Heredia or Mike Myers.
Eek.
nick in sf-
i find it interesting that the people who have stayed with the blog are coming more to a consensus on things as time goes on. i think that when everyone has the same info they tend to come to similar conclusions.
most of the regulars including me are fairly happy with the team, but there are some loose ends like wang and the eighth inning that are problematical. this team still isn’t firing on most of it’s cylinders so i think that’s why most of us are optimistic about the team.
that’s ok about the moose bars. i didn’t like moose that much anyway
“A whiner is a guy who complains about something you are in favor of.”
Ha! Nice, at least we are calling it what it is.
“STATE OF THE SERIES: The Yankees were 2-4 against the Mets last season and are 13-17 against their city rivals since 2004. They are 20-13 overall against the Mets.”
Ummm, isn’t there something a bit wrong with the above math? How do you have 4 less overall losses than what you had from 2004 on? I didn’t know you could take away losses.
“Vb03, accountability didn’t work too well in the 80’s.”
Nope. I just want this team to get a kick in the pants once in a while and George is the only guy with enough cajoles to do it.
Stult, Cano was on a real hot streak and Matsui was in a funk, so Joe eased Cano up until he was in his current spot. Now that the streak is over, I think he can move him back down again. And I’m a Cano fan.
“Ummm, isn’t there something a bit wrong with the above math? How do you have 4 less overall losses than what you had from 2004 on? I didn’t know you could take away losses.”
The Yanks are 20-13 against the Mets at Yankee Stadium since interleague play began.
“i think that when everyone has the same info they tend to come to similar conclusions.”
I don’t mean to butt in on a private conversation but try telling that to trisha!
Joekuh, I’m a Cano fan too, but batting him 5th or higher makes no sense to me. He’s not there yet and might not ever be.
“Nope. I just want this team to get a kick in the pants once in a while and George is the only guy with enough cajoles to do it.”
I hate to nitpick but I’m bored right now. George tried to give the team a kick in the pants in the 80’s and it didn’t work. I don’t think words from the owner would do anything especially since George was doing it since after 2000 and the Yankees haven’t won since.
“I don’t mean to butt in on a private conversation but try telling that to trisha!”
YAWN!
(that’s my trisha impersonation)
Stultus-
So good I thought it WAS trisha.
What didn’t “work” in the 80’s was a bunch of junk pitchers like Andy Hawkins and Dave LaRoche. It wasn’t George’s doing of firing managers. Greg Maddox turning down the Yanks was the nail in the coffin for the 80’s.
I’m all in for lighting fires under under-achievers. It keeps guys in line and focused. Then, if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen.
Stultus, I agree with the matchup thing. Just trying to make the point of how Girardi thinks a lineup should be.
Doesn’t reflect well on the team if they get shut down by Livan Hernandez. That shows the Boston series is still lingering.
He was a reliever they didn’t want to make him a starter, they always told him he can’t do it- words from Ed Randall about Minnesota handling Johan Santana
“That’s where he gets his demeanor” -Ed Randall on Santana
Hopefully the Yankees don’t lose their DH with Jorge and Gardner catching.
Why did Santana keep saying “I’m a man”?
He may be a man, but he had just given up his 4th HR of the night and had to come out.
Andrew, I just saw your post (I usually get time to jump in at the end and read of the last posts so don’t really know all of the different topics going on) and want to say that the but-fors in life are killers. But they exist. My own personal but-fors involve Swisher. I am thinking that but for Nick Swisher the Yankees could have potentiallhy walked out of fenway field having won two out of three. Now I know people can and will dance all over this will ridiculous and outrageous examples but the fact remains that the Yankees lost two games by one run and he was instrumental in totally screwing up in those particular games. Just making what is (to me anyway) a statement of fact.
I personally don’t believe the Sox-in-their-head theory because if that were the case I don’t think we would have seen two one-run games. Not having a solid go-to guy in the 8th may be in their heads (no offense to Aceves, whom I love, but you can’t have him be it all the time); starting a pitcher who is working his way back into the rotation may be in their heads – not the best way to go into fenway, but hey you do the best you can with the cards in your hand. But I don’t believe for a minute this team is quaking over the Red Sox.
It’s not pleasant getting swept, but this isn’t the first time and probably won’t be the last. I need for someone to exorcise visions of Swisher out of my head because his bad play in the field coupled with those terrible base-running errors led to some pretty bad stuff. That’s the kind of stuff that does drive me crazy – sloppy play. I will never get down for someone striking out. It happens. But getting doubled off the bag – twice – and killing a potential rally, well that’s the kind of stuff I expect from an A-ball player.
Anyway, I have now managed to get myself as aggravated as I was last night. Good job, trisha!
Going to Home Depot to pick out tile for a shower. Oh joy.
Later y’all.
Tim Mccarver actually brought sense to NY and the Francessa show.
Like it or not but the Yanks Championship years in the 90’s were when Big Stein was directly involved. The more uninvolved he got the worse the Yanks did. Torre complained that he didn’t get the credit but, when you think about it, maybe he didnt deserve as much of the credit as he gets now.
“Stultus, I agree with the matchup thing. Just trying to make the point of how Girardi thinks a lineup should be.”
Yeah, I wonder if that is the reason; if it is, it still makes no sense. To me, at least.
I don’t care that they lost
However, I don’t want this to turn into a slide and allow Tampa to crawl back in the wild card hunt.
Big Stein wasn’t that involved in the 90’s.
“Tim Mccarver actually brought sense to NY and the Francessa show.”
What did he say?
DB,
Wasn’t Big Stein banned from baseball and THEN the team started excelling??? That was my understanding. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Cano’s ho-hum rollover groundouts to second rival Matsui’s.
Yes!! Stick Michael was able to take control. He built the 90’s team…then shoved aside.
Mccarver said that he didn’t think the 8 losses in a row were that big a deal, he thought it was early, he thinks NY is a playoff team, and he thinks the pitching is going to improve. He said he thought NY was very confident and that if we entered a playoff series w/Boston today he wouldn’t count us out.
The Mets are going to win 2/3 this weekend. Livan is pitching very well. The Yankees bullpen is a mess and they are going to find out just like the mets have for the past 2 seasons , you need a good bullpen to win, especially if you are lucky enough to make it into the playoffs.
Nah, we’ll win 2 of 3.
“Stick Michael was able to take control. He built the 90’s team…then shoved aside.”
That’s my recollection.
Damon has an eye problem that’s why he’s not in the lineup.
Stick Michaels >>>> Cashman
Trevor, thanks. That explains it.
Wait till they come to OUR house,
Thanks for the recap!
So McCarver took the contrarian view. Let’s see what he says on Fox 5 tomorrow. I’m sure he won’t be so optimistic or favorabe toward the Yankees. Somewhere Peter Gammons is flashing his pearly yellows.
Well I see my timing was impeccable, as I started to read a few more posts and saw my name being used in vain!
YAWN!!!!!
HOWEVER – the fallacy in your argument is readily apparent just reading this forum. Everyone has the same information but you have such a divergence of opinion it isn’t funny. You have bridge jumpers and knee jerkers and lemon suckers and rational posters and optimistic posters. The way one theorizes based on present information is certainly colored by the lenses of one’s experience.
And by the way, there is nothing really special about universal agreement with one or two outliers. After all, were it not for the “heresy” of one Galileo Galilei, everyone with the same information would still be insisting that the world was flat. Most of them I have to believe would be posting here.
The day any one of you finds unanimity of opnion on anything happening in the Yankee universe, give me a jangle. I’ll let you know what I think of the theory. Until then, puh-lease.
No problem Joe.
I agree w/Mccarver, and you can’t call him biased by any strecth of the imagination.
Anything wrong with Damon or is it just a day off?
You would think that Swisher deserves at least a one game benching for his consecutive baserunning blunders.
Where’s the discipline on this team??
No, Big Stein wasn’t that involved in the 90’s and yes they did start excelling after his ban. But, that is the missing ingredient isn’t it? He did get a bit out of hand towards the end of the 80’s, but you can’t deny that he at least gave the Yanks some spark when they weren’t playing well. Hell, the whole reason the Yanks turned it around in 98 was because they were rumors George was pissed and was going to fire Torre. They had a team meeting, players stepped up, and the team dominated.
Mets Lineup
Cora SS
F-Mart LF
Beltran CF
Wright 3B
Church RF
Sheffield DH
Murphy 1B
Schneider C
Castillo 2B
Mets Lineup
Cora SS
F-Mart LF
Beltran CF
Wright 3B
Church RF
Sheffield DH
Murphy 1B
Schneider C
Castillo 2B
What did John Henry say on his Twitter about Teixeira?
Damon eye problem.
As someone who had the misfortune of being at Fenway last nite, I have to report that Red Sox Nation retains the crown as the nastiest and most vicious fans in MLB.
This is the group that really lowered the level of civility (already on the way down, to be sure) in all sports.
Last nite began with senseless booing of half our line-up. Then the cretins in the crowd (not everyone)howled with glee when A-Rod was plunked, ignoring the fact that Boston pitchers have hit Yankee btters over the last decade more than any single team has victimized any other team.
Boston cements its reputation as a nasty front-runner’s sports town.
Per Girardi – Melky bunted on his own in that 8th inning
I doubt Big Stein had anything at all to do w/the 98 team.
Thx for the posts!
LOL Francessa mentions Hunter Jones and Bowden to Girardi
never quite understood why people (sorry to bring it up trish, just noticed you just did it) would say YAWN!!! Wouldn’t yawn be better? The whole point of it is to express boredom on the topic.Don’t see how shouting and putting explanation points denotes boredom.
I knew someone had to mess up on that bunt what was the point of putting Gardner in to begin with if he wasnt going to steal. Melky messed up could be a different game I guess water under the bridge at that point.
Wait till they come to OUR house, read Torre’s book
Hey Bottomline:
I know that the Fenway faithful can be pretty nasty but you’re examples of “booing our lineup” and cheering when Arod god hit aren’t exactly that big of a deal.
Let’s be honest, I’ve seen plenty of the same and worse at Yankee Stadium.
Usually it’s all in good fun. This is coming from a guy who walked into Fenway in 2003 wearing a shirt that said “1918, Babe, Bucky, Buckner” and lived to talk about it
What a dumb job by Melky bunted on his own.
All right, it was Melky’s stupidity not Joe’s.
Hunter Jones!!!!!!!
An eye problem? Fantastic……hope Johnny will be ok. Trevor, where’d you get that info?
Laura, I agree with you – I don’t want 3 games to turn into a slide, but frankly, I could see this coming from a mile away. They started playing shabby baseball on the homestand even if they did win 4 of 6. I’m still sort of depressed about the 3 games because the team was just abominable in all aspects of the game and I don’t feel at all confident about beating the Sox down the line….forget that, I don’t have a lot of confidence that they will make the playoffs. They have a chance is what I will say, but I think it’s beyond foolish to count on the wild card. The Yankees/Tigers/Rangers all have similar records; the Jays have not disappeared like so many thought and the Rays aren’t going to go away. So, they have a chance to make the playoffs……but I don’t see them advancing if they do. That is why I don’t care about these games. I want to feel good about this team again…..
Swisher Batting 2nd makes sense. Way to punish him for those baserunning mistakes.
Trevor, something about the MT curse….mark tiexeria curse.
what a ****
Marte had some discomfort… will see Dr. Andrews on Monday – per Girardi
DB-Ah. More to the story than?
I just question what effects that really had. I find it more likely that at one point or another they would have gotten going on their own.
“And by the way, there is nothing really special about universal agreement with one or two outliers.”
Trish, aren’t you in agreement with a few posters here that every thing is great in the world?
“Everyone has the same information but you have such a divergence of opinion it isn’t funny. You have bridge jumpers and knee jerkers and lemon suckers and rational posters and optimistic posters. The way one theorizes based on present information is certainly colored by the lenses of one’s experience.”
That’s what makes this forum so interesting and fun!
E-gawa
Damon has an eye problem you cant sit swish. Swish has been hot lately.
Marte to see Dr.Andrews Monday.
Betsy, you really are a fair weather fan. You thought they’d make the playoffs before the series I’m guessing? If so, stick to your guns!
What did Joe say about the eye problem? Is it serious?
Bye bye Marte… good one Cash
** Nady had soreness – and Marte to Dr. Andrews – YIKES
I’m not a fair weather fan, Wait – I don’t abandon my team – I’m just a pessimist. There’s a huge difference.
Swisher is our best #2 hitter if Damon doesn’t play. If Damon doesn’t play, then you can’t bench Swisher for disciplinary reasons and batting anyone else 2nd would be stupid.
Andrew Merchand on 1050. Also said no rehab game for Bruney they’re just going to let him get in a game here off the DL.
Cano’s ho-hum rollover groundouts to second rival Matsui’s.
I second that
You’re right. Wrong wording. Pessimist I believe.
trade bait in 2010 for Marte
Robbie is at 293 BA 327 OBP.
Oh brother…….nice news we’ve gotten so far today. I guess the experimental procedure worked for Saito, but not for Nady……..what a surprise.
Betsy is a real fan and realistic… not a homer like TeixeiraMVP.
Damon is hurt by all means play Swish for brains. I still think he is a moron. damn good batting eye though.
“Hell, the whole reason the Yanks turned it around in 98 was because they were rumors George was pissed and was going to fire Torre.”
Then why didn’t they dominate from ‘05 – ‘07 when he was threatened all the time???
Trish, don’t tease us, go to home depot.
“Bye bye Marte… good one Cash”
That’s funny. On a day when everyone is telling the yankees that they need to trade for the best relief pitcher available on the trade market you’re criticizing a trade that brought the best relief pitcher available on the market last season.
Relief pitchers are largely unpredictable. That’s the reality of baseball.
With his 2 base running errors on back to back days, do you really want him 2nd though? I don’t maybe it’s just me but when I think Swisher, I think Giambi and while he’s not as slow as Giambi.. he’s not that fast either.. I just don’t like him in that spot of the order.
Sean, absolutely I am. But I believe the premise of the post where I was so rudely mentioned
was that when everyone has the same information they come to the same conclusion – everyone except me, according to Wave Your Hat (who seems to forget he has been out there waving the flag by himself on a number of issues).
That’s why I pointed out the wide divergence of forum opinion on just about every Yankee issue, despite everyone having “the same information”.
Just the luck of the Sox
Saito’s procedure works and the exact same for Nady doesn’t.
Ridiculous
Okay, that’s the third time Tex4mvp was mentioned. Who is he/she?
“Trish, don’t tease us, go to home depot.”
YAWN!
JeterHughesJoba–
Don’t know if you ever spent time in Boston. I did some years ago and the place really is in a class by itself. Much of the nastiness was encouraged by some really hateful media types. WOrst offender was Eddie Andelman who went so far as to urge Bostonians to trash cars with New York plates on Cape Cod — New Yahkas are ruining the Cape. But a lot of the nastiness has spilled over. I hope New Yorkers can maintian a much higher level of civility — most, I think, have.
Marte is going to be the last Yankee pitcher to pitch in the WBC. What a frigging waste!!
Trevor, thanks – wow, how stupid are the Yankees? They really have learned nothing, have they? The guy was put on the DL, taken off, then put on again and they are STILL rushing Bruney up again? I recall the good old days when the Yankees were actually conservative with injuries.
Your tiles are calling!
Wake up Bryan!
Cashman was supposed to know that Marte was going to break down? EVERYONE thought it was a good trade at the time.
That’s just the way it goes.
You’re the typical knee-jerk reaction type fan with zero patience.
Joe G’s wife still loves him after the series. He jump on trampoline and played kickball with kids also.
Wait till they come to OUR house, I didn’t read the whole book but I did read about that part. Quite interesting
And now, I will go to Home Depot!
“Marte is going to be the last Yankee pitcher to pitch in the WBC. What a frigging waste!!”
It wasn’t the WBC, he was lifting weights and never mentioned a thing about it hurting him a bit.
wait a minute, Trisha. you got me all wrong.
Randy said we were all coming to same conclusions over time, not me. I just said, try telling that to trisha.
You gotta admit I was right.
I think some ya’ll need to calm down about Nady. Girardi said nothing about him having a set back. but you’re reacting like he did.
It was the same soreness when he first started throwing a baseball.
He went from throwing 75 feet to 125 which is a big jump to begin with. Take it easy.
Marte was one of the top lefty specialists in baseball and he has done nothing since he came here
Regardless of who they acquire, I will not be confident they can step in and do a good job.
Pitching in NY is much different than anywhere else.
I flipped open Juiced the other day DB at the library and found it very interesting. I’d never buy it though because I don’t want to give Canseco my money.
If Nady can’t make it back, we have to make a deal for a corner OF. We also need another arm in the bullpen.
“wait a minute, Trisha. you got me all wrong.”
Trisha reads game threads backwards and gets confused. Then again, so do I.
I guess Trish doesn’t read my posts
yawn
Bruney and Marte = injury prone
Cashman cannot rely on them. Go out and get someone.
Pete says Bruney could be activated tomorrow. Yay!!!!!
That’s what makes a forum interesting, every one having a different opinion with the same information.
Also, I don’t like seeing some people(yourself) trying to make other people happy when I’m not happy myself. My life is miserable and I don’t like to see forced happiness.
CB
Yea and when Marte sucked last year Cash is the one who decided he was worth another 3 years… but I guess that doesn’t matter
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuney
Marte wasn’t forthright about his injury in ST
Bruney wasn’t with his elbow either
How can the Yankees be blamed for injuries when the players themselves try and play through it?
Bottom line:
Boston is a very city except for the people.
Nothing but a bunch of hypocrites too. They all desperately wanted Arod, kicking Nomar out the door in the process. Now, Arod is the biggest piece of garbage to ever walk according to them.
My biggest problem with Boston fans is their hypocrisy in terms of the way the 2 teams spend money. It’s ok for the Sox to outspend 25 other teams, but when the Yankees outspend the Sox it’s just not fair and they’re the Evil Empire.
You can’t have it both ways Boston!
Nevermind on Swisher.. after looking at his splits I have no complaints
JeterHughesJoba
Yup exactly you must be waiting for Burnett to develop and achieve his potential too
At the young age of 32
Wait till…, I’ve done the same thing in Borders with that book. His whole premise was that if it wasn’t for steroids he wouldn’t have even gotten out of bed and if taken right, were perfectly healthy. crazy.
Did Joe explain what Damon’s eye problem was?
“If Nady can’t make it back, we have to make a deal for a corner OF. We also need another arm in the bullpen.”
That’s how we got into this mess, what’s the COF for ? for defense ? we have subs in AAAA that can do that, now unless we’re trying to get a package like SU/C Streets & OF C.Gonzalez, then that’s another story.
If Bruney could be activated tomorrow, why couldn’t they activate him last night to pitch?
We already lost the game we needed to win, no point in bringing him back early now.
“Pitching in NY is much different than anywhere else.”
Eric Gagne 2007.
How’d that work out?
It has almost nothing to do with NY – it’s the nature of relief pitching.
The reason why teams are always looking for relievers is that they always have some major defect to them. Two of the biggest is that they can’t stay healthy or they are inconsistent.
Their performance is subject to high variability whether they play in NY or not.
Ask Tony Reaggins and Mike Sciosia what they think about Brian Fuentes right now in the intense pressure cooker that is anaheim california.
Fuentes was a guy tons of yankee fans wanted to trade the farm for last year at this time.
So, if Bruney gets activated tomorrow, who goes?
Is Robertson optioned back to Scranton? Veras DFA’d?
Swisher did really well last week batting in the 2nd spot. Now all he has to do is avoid base running mistakes.
Francessa didn’t even ask Joe about it… don’t think Fran knew about it.
An interesting option would be Lidstrom/Hermida from FLA since they prbly won’t give up Nunez.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....ira_3.html
“There’s no reason to get into it with a 70-year-old man about baseball,” Teixeira said.
After the Red Sox won their eighth straight over the Yankees, Henry Tweeted, “the MT curse?”
Henry, for the record, turns 60 in September.
**LOL Tex
bruneyyyyyyy. oh how i miss thee.
“Is Robertson optioned back to Scranton? Veras DFA’d?”
Please let Veras get DFA’d
“An interesting option would be Lidstrom/Hermida from FLA since they prbly won’t give up Nunez.”
I be sure to pass on the idea to Girardi and Cashman next weekend when I’m down in Miami. lol.
“Yea and when Marte sucked last year Cash is the one who decided he was worth another 3 years… but I guess that doesn’t matter”
No it really doesn’t due to the teams immediate need for relief pitching on a team built to win now.
Either they signed him or they picked up a $6M option for this year or lost him. Those were the options over the winter.
There was no way to predict he would get hurt this year. None.
“There’s no reason to get into it with a 70-year-old man about baseball,” Teixeira said.
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Starting to love Tex even more.
Fuentes was an NL wonder.
Never go after pitches from the NL… the Heath Bell fans need to realize this.
Stay away from Bell, Qualls, Valverde, etc.
Ed, grab them by the neck.
CB
Exactly pick up his option don’t give the man a 3-year deal
Only handful of relievers are worth a 3-year deal and Marte isn’t one of them
Thanks, 7*7
To add on, I love it when Tex gets all fired up, lol
“Ed, grab them by the neck”
LOL, ditto.
Can you imagine the media feeding frenzy if Hank or Hal were tweeting at all never mind tweeting snarky comments fitting for an teenager?
John Henry on twitter – no problem. It’s a public service.
All Cashman needed to do was pick up Marte’s option.
Instead, he signed him to a 3 yr/$12 million dollar deal, to a 34 yr old reliever who didn’t even do well for us last year.
Was a dumb move any way you slice it. Especially since our pen was dominant in 2008 and we were overflowing with arms (though the pen is awful now). There was no need to give someone like Marte 3 years.
Tex for president after that comment
LMAO tex
After the Red Sox won their eighth straight over the Yankees, Henry Tweeted, “the MT curse?”
What a loser.
Spyder people here don’t like the truth watch out they may get vicious
“Can you imagine the media feeding frenzy if Hank or Hal were tweeting at all never mind tweeting snarky comments fitting for an teenager?
John Henry on twitter – no problem. It’s a public service.”
So true, CB
I would hope Veras finally gets DFA. But I’m not getting my hopes up.
My guess is either Tomko is sent back down or Phil Hughes.
Sending Robertson down who has the best ERA in the pen, just proves Girardi for whatever reason doesn’t like him.
That would put this on another level wouldn’t it. Hank and Henry going at it on tweets. That I’d love to see.
Theo was able to get Ramon Ramirez
How about Cashman go out and acquire some under the radar guy?
“Exactly pick up his option don’t give the man a 3-year deal
Only handful of relievers are worth a 3-year deal and Marte isn’t one of them”
But what does that point have to do with him being injured?
Who cares about the future years on the deal? The yankees are worried about this year.
Whether they are paying him $6m this year or $4M this year it’s still a huge problem that he is hurt. Huge.
They don’t care about $8M future dollars. They don’t. It’s not some monumental set back to the franchise.
The loss of his talent this year is much more problematic than the loss of future dollars he’s due.
Why is it that the Yankees brass is always classy toward Boston (Steinbrenner contributing to the Jimmy Fund, for ex.) while Boston bigwigs have to repeatedly make snide remarks about the Yanks?
Theo better be careful or he might start an MTA curse of his own
Mark Teixeira & Alex, whooping that a.. for the next 10 yrs.
Veras throws 95, that will keep him here the entire year.
CC on with Mike.
CC on with Francessa
True, CB – it’s amazing how the media thinks the Sox organization walks on water. First of all, the idea of a curse is just incredibly stupid. Secondly, he wanted Tex badly – or did he just decided to fly down to Texas to sample some BBQ? The man knows his fanbase will eat his comments up, so he’s not necessarily stupid in that regard…..just completely immature.
Joba is 0-1 with a 5.48 ERA at home
Livan has a 3.88 ERA this year
Don’t expect miracles tonight.
“How about Cashman go out and acquire some under the radar guy?”
What under the radar guy did theo get?
Or are you saying Ramirez was under the radar because you just didn’t know who he was as he played in KC?
Ramirez was a very good reliever. Do you seriously think people in baseball didn’t know that?
Coco Crisp was probably the best CF to change teams in the off season. There were no CF on the market.
That was a trade that cost the Sox a valuable asset.
THIS IS A SIGN!!!
http://www.daytondailynews.com.....59051.html
“while Boston bigwigs have to repeatedly make snide remarks about the Yanks?”
I don’t have an answer but I can guess. Maybe the want to keep the rivalry going between fan bases which makes money.
LOL I wonder if Mike will slobber over CC or if he will tell CC how much he didn’t want him…………why do I think it will be the former? He bashes players to no end…..until he gets them on his show, then he sucks up to them.
“No it really doesn’t due to the teams immediate need for relief pitching on a team built to win now.
Either they signed him or they picked up a $6M option for this year or lost him. Those were the options over the winter.”
CB-
You were on the right track with your previous post but I think you went off the rails with this conclusion.
I thought Cashman did right this winter electing not to put significant $$ in the pen, instead focusing on the pitching and on getting Tex.
My reason was the same as yours, that relievers are inconsistent. I thought we had enough talent in the pen and that spending more money there wasn’t the best use of scarce resources.
But, I was also against them signing Marte for the amount and years they did. The reason? Relievers are inconsistent. I thought that the Yanks could have spent less and gotten approximately the same return. There were other lefty relievers on the market we could have gotten, and spent less doing it.
I have to run, I’ll leave it to others (if anyone is interested) to research how the other lefty reliever free agents from last year are doing so far. I’ll check back when I get home.
“The reason why teams are always looking for relievers is that they always have some major defect to them. Two of the biggest is that they can’t stay healthy or they are inconsistent.”
you have to sign four to get two. and you have to make projects of young pitchers over a three to four year period of exposing them to more and more responsibility. that’s what the red sox did with delcarmen. it’s taken a while for him to be in the 8th inning on games that matter.
Red Sox nation still bitter they didn’t Tex.
Ed H., it’s the 80 years of futility and utter embarrassment the Yanks put them through. Hopefully, karma will change for the Yanks side. Ever since that damn Evil Empire comment the Sox have had their way with us.
Hey – When you win as much as they have in recent years, they can talk or gloat as much as they want.
It is up to us to beat them in October and make them eat their words. Until they do, we are in no position to complain. They have earned the right to do/say whatever they want.
When we win, Hank can talk smack everyday to them.
get Tex.
No rehab games, that is odd. So someone is going on the dl? or someone is released.
My guess matsui dl? Veras released?
Tex is on a pace to produce 70-80 more runs than Papi is. And that’s not even accounting for his glove.
What a curse. How will the yankees live with the gloom of having that kind of player anchoring the franchise.
Boston losing Tex of course is just further proof of the genius of the Henry and Epstein regime.
They’re magic is startling. The way they tricked the yankes into signing Tex by bluffing their intense interest. Just amazing. Books should be written by the harvard business school faculty on the strategic management brilliance of john henry and his innovative use of twitter amongst senior citizens as a business communication strategy. Michael Porter can write tomes about Henry.
To be fair – A lot of people were against CC when it looked like he was only using us as leverage to get what he wanted from the West Coast and it looked like he was toying with us and wasn’t going to sign here.
We all wanted him, but when he didn’t respond to the offer for weeks when no one else bid on him, it was frustrating.
I much rather would have given Juan Cruz and maybe another guy or two some of that money than give it to Marte looking back. I was a little puzzled at the contract when I heard it last year.
Teixiera said he had a bad vibe when he met with Lucchino and Henry.
Imagine that.
When is nady coming back!?!?
“But, I was also against them signing Marte for the amount and years they did. The reason? Relievers are inconsistent.”
I don’t disagree. My preference was to pick up his option. That said – picking up his option was 2M more for this year so that might have precluded some other move such as a mid season trade.
There were arguments on both sides and on the whole I would have preferred the $6M option.
But that’s completely separate than the issue of him being hurt and the implications of that injury for this year.
To somehow say look he got hurt what a bad acquisition is disconnected logic.
John Henry…..the most interesting man in the world. next to that Dos X guy
I have no problem with the Yankees signing Marte to a 3 yr deal, but I do have a problem using a LH specialist as a 2 innings relief pitcher. Of course now it looks like he may have a serious injury but that happens. If so he will move to 60 Day DL or IR and a new 40 man slot opens up.
What I find hard to believe is having Berroa on the bench and never using him. Is he the designated bench player coach or something? He can hit. Or if he isn’t to be used, then bring someone up that will be used. I guess it is just another Girardism that I will just have to accept and move on with.
John Henry once made a bad trade just to see what it would feel like.
teixeira has become my favorite player on the yankees because he’s a great all around player and he doesn’t take any crap from opposing pitchers or opposing owners.
i would like to see some of his combativeness spread to the other players.
Dave Angels offered 140 million.
Carl,
Yes, but we only found it out now. At the time, there was nobody else bidding aside from Milwaukee that we knew of.
Somehow the rivalry thrived for 100 years without smack talking. It’s up to ownership and the execs to show restraint or they could wind up encouraging fans who would love an excuse to get out of hand. The players and managers on both teams have recently done a good job of role modeling restraint. (Ever since Pedro left Boston, that is.)
Is Damon hurt?
John Henry is proving himself to be a bitter old man. His team wins 3 straight against the Yankees and his post is the curse of mt? Loser fits with his loser franchise.
CB
John Henry drinks Busch beer…
When Bruney is activated, the Yankees must DFA Veras. End of discussion.
LOL! Dave
Just because we didn’t know doesn’t mean it wasn’t real and known by others. Believe me negotiations are not secret, even when they are suppose to be.
Well Dave that goes to show we know nothing.
YankeesWFAN Johnny Damon told Girardi his eye was “fluttering.” Getting checked out. Maybe that’s why he dropped that easy fly last night.
I believe Veras is around for the year unless he is traded. He is a good thrower with potential to be a very good pitcher. He was overused and I am sure he was injured early in April when he pitched two games within 3 days of 3 innings or more. He hasn’t really been right since. I’m sure he is trying to gut things out. Really he needed to go on the DL and recup his arm. Another Girardism!
Thanks Jennifer
Ed H.
June 12th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Why is it that the Yankees brass is always classy toward Boston (Steinbrenner contributing to the Jimmy Fund, for ex.) while Boston bigwigs have to repeatedly make snide remarks about the Yanks?
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Because despite their recent success they remain Yankee wannabes, who define themselves not as the Red Sox, but as the anti-Yankees.
The media has adopted them as their team out of gratitude, because of the former’s antipathy for the Yankees.
Alas, they lost their chance to repeat by sending Manny away. They lost their shot at the “dynasty” conversation. See? Wannabes.
Ledger_Yankees CC just got a real WWE belt to replace the plastic one the Yankees have been awarding. A gift from CCs pal, Jerry “The King” Lawlor –Carig
lol jennifer. CC is the man.
I am embarassed by John Henry sometimes.
I hope this early Bruney activation doesn’t turn into a disaster. They better have talked to him and made sure he isn’t hiding some pain again
have we decided who goes when bruney comes???
ray,
Don’t be embarrassed. Henry has won 2 WS in the last 5 years. He owns the model franchise in baseball, he can say what he wants.
If the Yankees have any guts, they will use this as motivation. They have been embarrassed by Boston and this is just salt in the wounds. They can either lie down and take it, or get up and fight back.
Aw, that sucks. I think they should use the fake belt – that was a gift from AJ’s sons.
Just to state in another way what I assume several people have already said about yesterday’s eighth inning:
You have two situation:
1)Late inning, Yankees leading by a run, no outs, runners on first and second, heart of Red Sox lineup coming up.
2)Late inning, Yankees leading by a run, no outs, no runners on, bottom part of Red Sox lineup coming up. (What the 9th would have been had Rivera come on in the 8th and pitched well.)
Assume your two available pitchers are Rivera and Aceves. Which do you match with which situation? Anyone who matches Aceves with 1 and Rivera with 2, make an appointment for a brain scan.
Rarely has there been a clearer illustration of the stupidity of saving your closer for the 9th when you have a desperate situation earlier. In this case, Girardi was too much a slave of convention.
John Henry lives vicariously through himself.
UPDATE, 5:57 p.m.: Johnny Damon is out of the lineup for assorted reasons. He hasn’t played well of late and he said his eyes have ben “fluttering.” Damon said he felt like he was going to pass out on the field last night. He wondered whether it was a lingering side effect of the concussion he suffered five years ago.
He’s getting checked out today and said he is available.
In terms of other stuff:
Girardi said Brad Penny threw at A-Rod on purpose and should be disciplined by MLB. He also hinted the Yankees could be waiting for payback. …
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I guess that is why he got down on one knee. if that is the case why didn’t he take himself out of the game?
Lets see what mlb does with that? Will they look into disciplining him? Clearly he tried and missed with the first pitch, than hit him with the 3rd.
Also what does he mean by the “Yankees could be waiting for payback” I’m not clear on that.
LOL nice CC is awesome
It’s absolutely ridiculous that the Yankees are going against their own inclinations to activate Bruney without getting any rehab games under his belt…..smacks of desperation. Ugh.
jennifer June 12th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Ledger_Yankees CC just got a real WWE belt to replace the plastic one the Yankees have been awarding. A gift from CCs pal, Jerry “The King” Lawlor—Carig
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LOL That’s awesome
bodhisattva – OPPC member – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
June 12th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Ed H.
June 12th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Why is it that the Yankees brass is always classy toward Boston (Steinbrenner contributing to the Jimmy Fund, for ex.) while Boston bigwigs have to repeatedly make snide remarks about the Yanks?
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Because despite their recent success they remain Yankee wannabes, who define themselves not as the Red Sox, but as the anti-Yankees.
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Thanks, bodhisattva. That nails it, I think.
And yes, Ray. That’s how I felt about some of George’s antics too.
After the Red Sox won their eighth straight over the Yankees, Henry Tweeted, “the MT curse?”
What a loser.
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A clear cut case of sour grapes.
““There’s no reason to get into it with a 70-year-old man about baseball,” Teixeira said.”
Which is also why he doesn’t ever argue with Angel Berroa?
(sorry, it was just sitting there)
Poor Johnny – I hope he’s ok….and he should have gotten it checked out before this, but I guess that’s against the competitive nature of ballplayers.
well said Trisha.
I agree 100%. Why there isn’t a single manager who can’t think outside of the box by using his best reliever in the highest leverage situation is beyond me!
Sounds like Xavier Nady is still a ways off. “Good days and bad days,” he said. X did not sound particularly confident in his ability to throw. But he said it is improving over time.
Hey, it’s Al Leiter. He’s got some crazy hair going on.
Between Nady’s elbow being balky and Damon’s eye-fluttering, and feeling like passing out (I really hope he’s OK, this is nothing to fool around with), it sounds like OF help is needed. And I don’t just mean AAA.
Back in 2000, Cash’s trade for David Justice was a big surprise. I wonder if another surprise is coming. Hope it works as well as Justice did. He truly was the MVP that year.
After what happened last night, the Yankees are in no position to give away games in the 8th inning
That’s why Bruney will be activated tomorrow.
# Nick in SF June 12th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
““There’s no reason to get into it with a 70-year-old man about baseball,” Teixeira said.”
Which is also why he doesn’t ever argue with Angel Berroa?
(sorry, it was just sitting there)
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LOL classic
Is that Leiter’s bullpen catcher in the background?
Too bad the offense laid down for Penny.
The best payback would’ve been to have been up by 5 runs then have CC plunk Youkilis in the 8th inning… Roger Clemens style.
They better bean Youkilis in the 1st inning when that come to the Stadium in August.
“I am embarassed by John Henry sometimes.”
i”m the same age as john henry.
i kind of like that because i wouldn’t feel so bad smacking him if i ever run into him.
15 pounds! um I hope the pitchers don’t put it over their shoulders!
John Henry:
“I usually don’t sign aging sluggers to long term deals.
But when I do – I prefer Big Papi.
Stay roid-free, my friends.”
http://www.bostonherald.com/tr.....p;srvc=rss
I have no idea whether to believe this or not
Or if it even matters, lol
Nice looking belt. Thanks for the picture Pete
“In the interest of keeping you in the loop, I requested permission to snap a photo of the belt. Thanks to Jason Zillo for the help. The LoHud Yankees Blog, bringing you ridiculous clubhouse news since 2006.”
Just read Pete’s update. Great stuff. Pete is the awesomest blogger EVER! That belt is cool, can’t wait to see one with the interlocking NY.
Good ole’ John Henry.
This is the same moron who outspends 25 other teams, but has the incredible nerve to chastise the Yankess as the “Evil Empire” for outspending Boston.
Talk about a hypocrite!
I’m for teams spending all they can to make themselves better instead of putting the money into their pockets like Carl Pohlad always did in Minny.
Now we have the constant bitterness because they lowballed Tex and the Yankees snatched him up at the last minute?? Waaaaahhhh, waaaaahhhhh!!!!
It’s just amazing to see this guy in Boston always think he can have it both ways.
Does the ‘W’ on the belt spin? It’s in a weird position, so it looks like it would.
If they win on a walkoff tonight, I better not see any pies
Let them win a game against the Sox before they start again with that nonsense. I also don’t want to see smiling and laughing. They got embarrassed and have to play well for an extended period of time before they can have fun again.
Doug- You have to be kidding me.
Burnett has to have more courtesy than that.
I know all of us hate when we’re around someone who does that in public.
I will say this, if the Yankees lose 3 straight (or even 2 out of 3) to the Mets over the weekend, you will see Girardi’s job on the board in Las Vegas. Cashman’s too.
The Steinbrenner’s spent too much money (and that’s part of the problem) this year to watch this season go down the toilet.
I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, just saying they are not a patient lot.
Betsy: It’s amazing what passes for “news” these days. That it took 2 people to write that “story” is mind boggling and incredibly pathetic. An anonymous “snitch”? A security guard who is also an “elderly gentleman”? Give me a break. What are they, the NY Post??
S: Yes, the W does indeed spin. I’m 36 years old and I know that. Yes, I’m sad…
I much prefer the old WCW or Smoking Skull title belts.
LOL
I guess money can’t buy class (for AJ).
jennifer
June 12th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Doug- You have to be kidding me.
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My point.
And, he’s not.
Pepitone June 12th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I will say this, if the Yankees lose 3 straight (or even 2 out of 3) to the Mets over the weekend, you will see Girardi’s job on the board in Las Vegas. Cashman’s too.
The Steinbrenner’s spent too much money (and that’s part of the problem) this year to watch this season go down the toilet.
I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, just saying they are not a patient lot.
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You’re wrong. This franchise isn’t run that way anymore.
The days of George’s impatience and reactionary moves are long gone.
Why should the Yankees comment on that? you have to be kidding me.
I couldn’t care less; I just want to see AJ keep the team in the game for once!
Chain Reaction
June 12th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
LOL
I guess money can’t buy class (for AJ).
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Apparently, you thought it could.
Trevor
June 12th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
I would hope Veras finally gets DFA. But I’m not getting my hopes up.
My guess is either Tomko is sent back down or Phil Hughes.
Sending Robertson down who has the best ERA in the pen, just proves Girardi for whatever reason doesn’t like him.
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They need to get rid of Jose Veras I dont care if he doesn’t have any options he sucks.
The Other Phil, it IS the Boston Herald after all, lol
that John Henry update is ridiculous, grow up already!
Time for this team to man up
They are out of Boston now, they can stop playing scared. Livan Hernandez = batting practice despite what the nubmers say. We are hitting .427 as a team against him.
Mutts have a depleted lineup as well
No excuses.
David Wright is hitting .362 for the season so far. That’s insane.
More bitterness from the old fart in Fenway
to this..
Subway Series bound. Sun’s breaking through and I’m ready to head up to to the Bronx. C’mon, Yanks!
he replies
Not a fair fight is it?
Doug June 12th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
If they win on a walkoff tonight, I better not see any pies
Let them win a game against the Sox before they start again with that nonsense. I also don’t want to see smiling and laughing. They got embarrassed and have to play well for an extended period of time before they can have fun again.
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Talk about nonsense. Who the hell are you? Napoleon?
What are you going to do if you see them dancing and Burnett and Co. has a pie throwing contest in the dugout after the game?
You’re not doing jack. Stop with your insane idiotic nonsense.
I tweeted to him that he was a bitter old man.
I am prepared to be blocked.
Rishi (and all others re: John “grumpy old man” Henry): He followed that up saying that if the Yanks/Sox has split the season series so far, the Sox would be 6 games out. Apparently the genius owner doesn’t understand a difficult concept like basic math.
Chain Reaction,
Does Burnett look like a guy who is courteous or classy to you?
Just because he has money doesn’t mean it automatically makes you well-mannered.
But why is this even a story? Who cares?
Rishi June 12th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
that John Henry update is ridiculous, grow up already!
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It gets worse. He fits right in with the drunken frat boy fans of that team.
Nice randy l., seniors can definetely do the dance.
mano y mano.
Although, I’m sure you don’t consider yourself a senior at the young age of 60…the new 50.
“they got embarrassed and have to play well for an extended period of time before they can have fun again.”
This is just complete and utter stupidity. No one died, little boy.
Having fun is a part of the game. Lighten up.
Wow a belt with the Yankees emblem on it. Good looking Lawlor.
“David Wright is hitting .362 for the season so far. That’s insane.”
bandbox @ Citifield.
You’re wrong. This franchise isn’t run that way anymore.
The days of George’s impatience and reactionary moves are long gone.
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How do you know? Do you have a special connection to Yankee brass?
Isn’t run that way anymore? Are you kidding me? Did you not see the spending spree this past winter? To say they overpaid for Burnett is an understatement!
I don’t know what will happen, but my guess is that someone’s head will roll if this losing (esp. to the Red Sox and Mets) continues.
The Other Phil
June 12th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Rishi (and all others re: John “grumpy old man” Henry): He followed that up saying that if the Yanks/Sox has split the season series so far, the Sox would be 6 games out. Apparently the genius owner doesn’t understand a difficult concept like basic math.
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I might recommend some remedial math classes for him…though i would love for that to be the case
Is this the same John Henry who’s run his hedge fund into the ground? And who’s got a reputation for running around with enough floozies to make ARod jealous (no Madonna though)?
Tex sounds like he’s got things figured out. I like him more and more each day.
Giuseppe: Welcome to LHYB. That post is indicative of some of the bridge jumpers that comment here. They are the ones that make the comment section really difficult to read sometimes, due to the incredible inanity of the postings.
Even if it’s true, and who knows if it is, it’s one incident (and it’s not even an incident) in his career. You may dislike him for being what he is as a pitcher and for blowing up in two Sox games, but that should be separate and apart from who he is as a person. I would sure hate to be judged based on one bad moment I might have had……
Doug June 12th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
If they win on a walkoff tonight, I better not see any pies
Let them win a game against the Sox before they start again with that nonsense. I also don’t want to see smiling and laughing. They got embarrassed and have to play well for an extended period of time before they can have fun again.
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LOL. Best post ever
Padilla, Sutcliff and now Henry. If people keep pissing off Tex, there’s no telling what kind of numbers he’ll put up this year.
gloating is never nice and at some point you will end up paying for it…
Right, because how someone looks totally reflects what kind of person they are……
John is only 59!! He does look 70!
Ed –
“David Wright is hitting .362 for the season so far. That’s insane.”
bandbox @ Citifield.
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How is it a bandbox? If anything its the polar opposite of that.. And anyhow, Wright only has 4 HR so hes not exactly belting them out of the ballpark.
Wait… someone else is calling Boston players frat boys?
LOL… and Swisher and Burnett are….?
Well according to Peter Gammons the red sox ownership was the reason Teixeira didn’t sign with them, he didn’t like them.
The red sox organization, fan base and history is a joke. They care more about hating the yankees then rooting for the red sox to win.
Pepitone June 12th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
How do you know? Do you have a special connection to Yankee brass?
Isn’t run that way anymore? Are you kidding me? Did you not see the spending spree this past winter? To say they overpaid for Burnett is an understatement!
I don’t know what will happen, but my guess is that someone’s head will roll if this losing (esp. to the Red Sox and Mets) continues.
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Because you’d know the franchise isn’t run that way anymore if you paid attention to what’s been going on this season.
You never hear anything from Hal and Hank is off on daddy’s ranch doing who knows what. He hasn’t said a word all season and that’s the way everyone else in that front office prefers it.
Cashman is running the show and day-to-day operations and Girardi is his guy.
Nobody is losing their job in the middle of June, especially since the team is only 2 games out.
Have a feeling that Livan is going to make a lot of people eat a lot of crow tonight and make randy l look good.
He is a quality pitcher. Works off that slider and can spot his pitches.
“David Wright is hitting .362 for the season so far. That’s insane.”
What’s insane is how mets fans complain that wright isn’t enough of a clutch player despite the fact that he’s one of the top 10 players in the game.
Also insane is how Manuel bats him 5th in that line up. 5th.
If it wasn’t for Carlos Beltran assuming the whipping boy role for the mets Wright would be a pretty good approximation for the way Alex is treated by many yankee fans.
Wait… AJ was in a bookstore when he was cursing away on his cell phone?
LMAO. That is hilarious.
Someday, some “gutsy” manager is going to put his “closer” in the most perilous situation in order to get some big outs, snuff out a rally, and win a game. Then the mold will be broken and it will become more and more common. I’m guessing that manager will never be Girardi.
Tex vs. John Henry
Under the O’Neill Banner
29 year old vs 80 year old-looking man
PPV event of the year
They can award the winner of that fight (duh, Tex) the fake WWF belt……lol
Lol S.A.
John Henry must be a direct relative of Alfred E. Neuman.
He’ll now be a beloved goofy frat boy wannabe. If Yankee envy were a disease, he’d be dead.
The pearly yellows of Peter Gammons are smiling and reeking of booze.
That Alyssa with the transplant is so cute. Good for Gardner
Not a wrestling fan at all, but I love the wrestling belt thing. Even more now that there’s going to be a NYY championship belt!
lol @ MT.
He and I thinking along the same lines. That an octogenarian tweeting is the most ridiculous thing.
m
June 12th, 2009 at 10:46 am
AHAHHHHHAAA.
If indeed that’s the real John Henry, how petty can you be? HAHA. Is he calling the season? It’s over? The Yankees are dead and buried? That’s just stupid.
That’s what happens when 80 year olds tweet.
C’mon Cash. Why don’t you tweet about the curse of Big Poopi?
This “curse” started in 2004… when Teixeira was still a Ranger.
Yes, the curse may have exacerbated in recent years (especially this year), but it’s not like it started this year.
Pretty dumb comment by Henry.
No curse we just suck.
C’mon. We don’t suck.
By the way, for everyone who is saying that the yankees can’t put Wang back on the DL how about jeremy bonderman.
He got lit up his last appearance with detroit and what did they do?
Put him back on the DL. What was the reason:
“Bonderman won 50 games over four seasons, but an injury to his right shoulder limited him to 12 starts last year. The circulation problem required surgery and he is continuing his rehabilitation.”
That sounds really acute. He needs “continued rehabilitation.” Definitely a new problem there that warrants him going back on the DL.
I wonder if he has any options left…
If anyone really believes in curses then that tweet is the kind of thing that will create a curse. Watch the Yankees win the next 15 games against the sox this year.
The Henry Tweet curse has been cast
“The Other Phil
June 12th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Rishi (and all others re: John “grumpy old man” Henry): He followed that up saying that if the Yanks/Sox has split the season series so far, the Sox would be 6 games out. Apparently the genius owner doesn’t understand a difficult concept like basic math.”
If (rather than 0-8) the Yanks had four more wins and the Sox four fewer, Yanks would be 38-22, Sox would be 32-28, Yanks six games up.
Tell me what I’m missing.
http://www.daytondailynews.com.....59051.html
That story made me cry. The real innocents of this world are helpless animals.
I will be intersted in seeing whether the Sox go into their postYankee swoon. Of course I will be vastly disappointed if they don’t.
GO YANKEES!!!
GO PHILS!!!
No mets fan, but I love David Wright
“No curse we just suck.”
pretty much
“RT @FollowThePadres: Padres pitcher Jake Peavy will miss at least a month and his right ankle is in a cast. Details in a bit at padres.com.”
“Have a feeling that Livan is going to make a lot of people eat a lot of crow tonight and make randy l look good.”
ben-
if ever livan is going to be bad, tonight would be a good night for it.
the yankees need a victory to put the last three games in the rear view mirror.
Just 2 wins against Boston and we’d be tied for 1st place.
But that’s all behind us.
Go Yankees, go Phils.
hmmmm
“Padres pitcher Jake Peavy will miss at least a month and his right ankle is in a cast. Details in a bit at padres.com.”
If true then the padres fire sale starts even earlier than usual.
Heath bell anyone?
That sucks for the Padres….
Well now we know why Red Sox Nation doesn’t seem to have much class … it starts at the top with the owner.
Well now we know why Red Sox Nation doesn’t seem to have much class … it starts at the top with the owner.
One win against the Sox and we’re tied. Each head to head counts for two in the standings.
Brad Penny’s HR was almost 2 runs higher than Livan’s and we didn’t hit him
Not expecting much from the offense tonight, they are slumping.
When you’re slumping, facing a slop pitcher who locates like Livan can be tough.
*ERA
In terms of now they can’t trade their best asset….of course, Peavy would probably turn most trades down, so……
“RT @FollowThePadres: Padres pitcher Jake Peavy will miss at least a month and his right ankle is in a cast. Details in a bit at padres.com.”
==============================
Yikes.
if the loss is pre-determined…why bother watching, much less posting on a blog about the game?
For the sake of argument let’s say that I don’t believe in curses and that it is just very bad luck that a goat wasn’t allowed into Wrigley and the goat’s keeper declared there would never be another Cubs’ world series triumph until a goat was allowed in. I will tell you that if I were the owner of the Cubs I would turn it into a “joke” and have “goat’s day” at Wrigley. I’d make sure that someone brought a goat to that game. I can tell you that if it happened and I were a Cubs’ fan, I’d buy a goat and go. Of course, though, I don’t believe in curses.
Then there’s the curse of the world series rings where a contingency from Tampa declared that after 2000 the Yankees would never win another world series until the left out parties received world series rings. Were I a member of the Steinbrenner family, I would have a world series ring day at the Stadium and invite those people to fly to the Stadium and receive their rings in a special ceremony. I’d announce that it had nothing to do with a curse but that the Steinbrenner’s felt that these people were left out, even though it was an oversight on someone’s part, and they deserved those rings.
Then there’s the Curse of the Babe. Members of RSN would go and leave cigars and booze at the Babe’s grave every year. The Babe’s daughter had a piano owned by the Babe thrown into a river in Massachusetts (she’s a turncoat Sox fan.) A philanthropist from RI bought the original contract that sold the Babe to NY and sold pieces of it for $1000 and give the money to charity. None of that worked so in 2004 the Red Sox organization had a priest come into fenway to perform an exorcism and bless the park. I kid you not. In 2004, we know what happened. Sure it was because they were all drinking booze before every game and Kevin Brown decided to break his hand in September – but they still won…
If I were the Steinbrenner family I would have a priest come in and bless the new Stadium, you know, just because it’s their brand new home.
I don’t believe in curses, mind you.
Nor do I believe in superstitions, which is why I flip out whenever Michael Kay says the words “HO HITTER” or “PERFECT GAME” before the end of the 5th inning.
It’s funny that CC knows Jerry the King Lawler. I’m a Memphian and am actually playing in a softball league with Jerry the King Lawler right now. I’m amazed the dude still gets out there to play, because I remember going to a softball game where my dad played against Lawler’s Army.
Yeah… curses are why the Yankees had a 6.06 ERA against the Sox and the Red Sox had a 3.83 ERA against us.
Or how we went 4-46 with RISP and the Red Sox hit over .300 with RISP.
Stop with this curse non-sense or psychobabble and just accept that the Sox are a better team.
Improve the pitching, bullpen, and start executing and then we’ll start winning some games against them.
“mano y mano.”
db-
i have pent up anger. john henry was one of the SPBA owners who gave the players an ultimatum to play for half pay or they’d fold the league.
clete boyer had all the players meet in the outfield and told us he’d quit before taking half pay. almost everyone agreed with clete on our team. and on most teams.
the owners folded the league.
Good evening folks,
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
Let’s beat our cross town rivals!!!!!
“Stop with this curse non-sense or psychobabble and just accept that the Sox are a better team.”
Surely you jest. I have a good idea. No more than I am recommending that you believe in curses should you presume to tell another person what they need to believe.
The Red Sox a better team? Hardly. Played better ball than the Yankees this past series. Obviously.
GO YANKEES!!!
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....ee-bullpen cb…this ones for you.
Cone and Leiter in the same booth with Kay?
Should be entertaining, I hope they have a full Joba discussion.
Pinstripes take their place…
Subway cars sauntering past…
Yankees Mets begin…
That’s such a cool story about Lawler sending an actual WWE Championship belt to the Yankees.
Even into his late 50s, the King is STILL a folk hero here in the Memphis area.
GO JOBA!!!
Face to the future…
A young phenom climbs the hill…
Joba Chamberlain…
I used to bump into John Henry on occasion at my office building in downtown Boston (some of his attorneys work in the building).
Good thing for him I don’t work there anymore.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4255272
SJ’s nephew officially signed for $2.5M. Congrats again to SJ and best of luck to Mr. Sanchez!
I think it’s pretty obvious the Yankees are the much better team over the Mets. Add in the fact that they’re playing at home, they SHOULD sweep them. That is assuming there is no spillover from the Boston series, which there could be. Here’s hoping that get back to playing well, starting tonight.
Captains of “The Show”…
Girardi and Manuel…
Watch round one commence…
So excited for all the Joba in the pen discussion. Really, because you never can hear that enough…
I am not getting YES in HD! ugh!
“By the way, for everyone who is saying that the yankees can’t put Wang back on the DL how about jeremy bonderman.”
cb -
i have it all figured out.
as soon as wang’s baby is born, we can send him to scranton with postpartum depression.
“Padres pitcher Jake Peavy will miss at least a month and his right ankle is in a cast. Details in a bit at padres.com.”
Where do you think Peavy is going to end up? Or you think he’ll stay with the Padres?
“SJ’s nephew officially signed for $2.5M. Congrats again to SJ and best of luck to Mr. Sanchez!”
If I were Tony one of the first things I would do is buy Uncle SJ Yankee season’s tickets, Legend’s seats of course!
nothing like getting your mind off Boston to play the Mets: NL, Subway Series, etc…you know the drill….Boston who?
“I am not getting YES in HD! ugh!”
Ridin, why not?
please – no 2-out craziness…
Congrats to your nephew, SJ.
Even better, Ridin, will be if the Sox go on a losing streak, the way they typically do when they have had their way with the Yanks.
Joba, one, two, three…
Epic battle underway…
Yankees now batting…
Looks like Joba has put his 1st inning woes behind him.
I’m in the Pittsburgh area and have been talking to some sports fans (they only seem to care about the Penguins today, naturally)…
but not a single one of them has heard of Tony Sanchez (and these are big sports fans)
They might as well just get rid of the Pirates. Nobody in Pittsburgh would miss them.
Please don’t let Livian being an Experienced Innings Eater today.
The L. Duque member of the El Duque family!!!
What are you doing in Pittsburgh, Dave?
How many times is Jeter going to hit that EXACT spot on the Warning track?
Please just get on base.
“as soon as wang’s baby is born, we can send him to scranton with postpartum depression.”
——-
haha, that might actually work too
Angel,
I’ve been traveling the country over the past 6 weeks.
I ran into some car issues just north of Pittsburgh so I’m stuck here for a few days.
At least my mlb.tv works from the hotel room
So much for the NYS launching pad!
livan is only 34. what’s up with these announcers . he’s younger than jeter.
Does anyone miss Hernandez?
I’m going to give Joba a theme song for tonight….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9Bng7NPPY
I never been to Pittsburgh, just Philly, I wondered what was there, lol.
Randy, I think they were talking about El Duque
we looked foolish
Ugh, that means Livian is younger than me.
“L. Hernandez (3.84) pitches to
M. Teixeira (.289, 19 hr, 52 rbi): Strike looking (85/fastball)”
85? LOL
“livan is only 34. what’s up with these announcers . he’s younger than jeter.”
Wow! – - – Don’t look up gullible in the dictionary.
Actually no El Duque is listed as 39.
Steve – Gameday had it at 84
“livan is only 34. what’s up with these announcers . he’s younger than jeter.”
Is he 34 the way El Duque is 37? If so, he ain’t 34.
Foolish? Two of those were hit to the warning track.
Randy I, I just turned on the game, I was expecting to see you croutched behind the dish…..61 MPH breaking ball…..How does anyone chuck a 61 mph pitch ???
Livan’s artifice…
For now, deceives the Bombers…
Soon evaporates…
They were talking about Livan, not El.
“Randy, I think they were talking about El Duque”
nevermind
Oh that thought makes me a feel a bit better, Laura.
Kay buying into Francessa’s claim that Manuel hates Church.
“Livan’s artifice…
For now, deceives the Bombers…
Soon evaporates…”
Are you gonna Haiku after ever half inning?
Because, honestly, that would be awesome.
I didn’t realize Sheff was back – facinating subplot
“.How does anyone chuck a 61 mph pitch ???”
pat m-
it does seem to violate one of newton’s laws.
Joba isn’t throwing hard at all
“Oh that thought makes me a feel a bit better, Laura.”
Most people believe that El Duque is at least 45. That would probably make Livan closer to 40 as well.
Love that knee play from Tex.
You have to be the ultimate loser if you didn’t want Tex on this team.
Guilty as charged…
Hmm not good, Joba is sitting between 89-91 with his fastball.
Hey guys Im watching this on Gamecast for now…
But Im wondering, How was Sheffield received??
It’s funny how things change. I loved having Sheff in our lineup. Now, I can’t stand the sight of him.
Avec les booooos.
Sheff got booed loudly, Dr. Cox.
I don’t get too worked up about velocity but where the heck is Joba velocity at?
That were a pretty pitch.
ok – one more out…
“Sheff got booed loudly, Dr. Cox.”
I guess thats about right.
Sucks though, I LOVED having Sheff.
When he was, you know, healthy.
Joba is dealing good!
Joba reaching back…
A pariah at the plate…
Watching one go by…
“I don’t get too worked up about velocity but where the heck is Joba velocity at?”
joba is working on his inner livan.
I hope this isnt Murphy’s break out series.
Slumping mf’s usually break their slumps against us.
perfect example: Big Sloppy.
Bobby B from the Sopranos behind home plate.
A Yankee haiku
will Dr. Cox put one in
a Union Square novel?
“Joba reaching back…
A pariah at the plate…
Watching one go by…”
i am LOVING this.
“Slumping mf’s usually break their slumps against us.
perfect example: Big Sloppy.”
I think that is going to prove to be an anomaly. Look for him to return to major slumpitude going forward.
“A Yankee haiku
will Dr. Cox put one in
a Union Square novel?”
Keep it comin!!
I love D Cone! Torre’s book speaks very highly of him
I tired of Sheffield when he and Torre decided to star in the Dumb and Dumber show. Sheffield was out for the better part of the season and continued to tell the press how he wasn’t going to play until he felt perfect. Meaanwhile, Melky and Robby helped propel the Yankees to the postseason. Sheffield came back with just a little bit left to the season and then wept bitterly to the press because he felt he was ready to be in the postseason lineup. Dumbo Torre immediately benched Melky, Sheffield sucked wind the entire series, and the Yankees went home with their tails between their legs.
I have always said that the 2007 postseason was the most embarrassing of all Yankee “bad moments”. That’s when the Yankees were dubbed Murderer’s Row and Cano and were the hands down favorites to go all the way.
Sorry to bring that up.
Robbie!
Robbie!
Cano must have heard that I was complaining about him batting 5th. LOL!
dont you know!?!
oh that Robi – such a slacker
Hey What do you know?
What do you what???
WHAT DO YA KNOW, ROBBBBIE CANOOOO!
Red and white are blurred…
Don’t you know swings, now trotting…
Pigeons lift their wings…
Robbie Cano – Doncha’ Know!!!
niiiiiiiiiiiice
Robinson Cano
target of several barbs
luckily bats fifth
Phils 1-0
uh, matsui – you are allowed to look at pitches
Phillies take an early lead over the Sawx
That’s no way to celebrate your birthday, Godzilla!
The Phils take a 1-0 lead on Boston
How classic would it be if the Sux get swept in Philly and we’re right back in first come Monday?
Your haiku’s are pretty good, DID.
Wow, in that BOS game, they have Ortiz at 1B and have Lowell sitting on the bench with Pukelis at 3B. The bum {Ortiz} has a hit as well. Color me surprised!
Thank you, Angel…
Dr. Cox
Just thought of this, did you ever tell us what your sign in Cleveland said?
That wasn’t Papi breaking out of a slump.
That was Papi being the recipient of two very FAT pitches.
Cano at the plate
Seeing more than two pitches
Results in a lead
Melky’s ball and Jete’s in the first inning woulda been out on any other night. Ball doesn’t seem to be carrying tonight… at least not yet.
Matsui breaks wrist…
Chein-Ming Wang pulls his hamstring…
Asian Injuries…
“The bum {Ortiz} has a hit as well. Color me surprised!”
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while – or could it be that he managed to find a supplier of his protein shakes…
come on Jobber
Chamberlain is getting his outs, but, 19 strikes out of 38 pitches is not good.
Average fastball 90 mph. Come on Joba.
“Dr. Cox
Just thought of this, did you ever tell us what your sign in Cleveland said?”
Pat,
actually the sign was confiscated by a security guard who wound up kicking me out during Jeter’s Kim Jones interview. You can actually see me being yelled at in the video.
Its a long story, Ill explain another time. Possibly in the next post after the game.
Please throw strikes Joba!! Become the dominant ace we all know you are.
Dr. Cox,
Glad you like the haikus…
I try…
“Thank you, Angel…”
Curious use of ellipsis… highly enigmatic… what else has been omitted from this message… that is the question…
“Chamberlain is getting his outs, but, 19 strikes out of 38 pitches is not good.”
I don’t think he has his fastball right now. He’s not throwing it. Shaking posada off when he’s calling for it.
It’s strange that with Joba the pitch whose command varies a lot is his fastball.
Guess the scouting report was to run, run, run on Possy Arm.
throw strikes
Wasting his pitches walking the bottom of the lineup…
Nice work Jobber.
I meant Possy as a term of endearment to Posada.
So before it gets taken out of context, I just wanted to explain. Because I can see how it can.
walks lead to bad things. Come on Jobber
Dr. Cox
I’m intrigued and look forward to it.
Few catchers are going to throw out runners if the pitcher never gives them a chance.
“Guess the scouting report was to run, run, run on Possy Arm.”
No the scouting report was to run on Joba’s slow delivery and mediocre skills at holding runners.
“No the scouting report was to run on Joba’s slow delivery and mediocre skills at holding runners.”
…and that of course.
This is not good
Come on Joba!
50 pitches. No velocity. walks hbp. Come on.
Joba’s just lost his fastball again. His mechanics are awful on his fastball right now.
Jesus Christ, Joba.
Here we go again!!
1 out and the meat of the F$%KING ORDER COMING UP!!
THAT KID WAS BEGGING TO STRIKE OUT AND HE HITS HIM
Joba at 50 pitches and rising
this can get ugly real fast
Joba in distress…
To the pen the cry rises…
Girardi ponders…
Come on Jobber. DP ball.
lovin Joba as a starter tonite! wish we had him going in BOS
Has anyone visited the mound to talk with Joba? Eiland or Girardi?
Has anyone visited the mound to talk with Joba? Eiland or Girardi?
A 5 inning outing from Joba coming. Great. Just what the doctor ordered.
oh gawwwwd.
come on Joba, you needed to sit down F-Mart.
Get out of this.
joba’s all over the place
Remember when he couldn’t get through the first without sucking? Seems the third has been the trouble inning for him the last couple starts.
or God, can I say, wish we had him in the 8th inning last nite!
bruney just about back.
the red sox owner on his twitter page put the mt curse for because he is mad we signed tex.
what a child.
he blew it by getting involved & running his mouth instead of letting theo handle it.
COME on.
He twisted his butt into that pitch.
Hey, let’s walk in a run! Won’t that be fun?
If more pitchers shook off Posada when they felt they wanted something else I would be a lot happier.
Joba has a set of balls
60 pitches for joba
Joba closing in on 60 pitches.
tie score in Philly
what is OPPC?
Why oh WHy do I feel like hes going to walk him in.
And the pitch count goes up…………
Put Cervelli out there.
sloba’s like a box of chocolates:
you never know what you’re gonna get
Beltran walks. Please start throwing strikes!!!
good job sloba
was that the pitch that was called?
wonderful.
Huh. That wasn’t nearly as fun as I thought it would be. No, it was actually really obnoxious.
Find the G.D. zone, Joba. Jesus effing Christ.
Yankees pitchers beat themselves. 3 walks and a HBP score the run. What a joke.
Didn’t Pedroia have a 10 pitch at bat before everything went to hell last night too?
Dear Joba,
Please stop walking people. Thanks!
Signed,
The Entire Yankee fan base
ok…you need outs here…what is going on!
DE JA F%$KING VU!!
THIS IS AWESOME
I guess we are going to the bullpen tonight. CC’s the only person that has come to pitch this whole week..
What the heck Joba
Why can’t him & Posada be on the same page?
It seemed like every single pitcher on yankee (except CC) caught the walk hitter disease… who’s defending Eiland now…
Brett Tomko? Really?
Good lord.
i would prefer he get the outs now and keep them in it regardless of pitch count
This inning has been going on for like an hour.
Cervelli? How about Joba doesn’t try to strike everybody out? How about he throws his slider for a strike.
As far as I’m concerned, little Joba shouldn’t be shaking off Posada. Listen to the vet.
Joba on the ropes
while Youk homers in Philly
John Henry tweets
Only 1 swinging strike all inning.
You know whats funny.
Before Joba got into trouble it was like the same 5 people making comments on the board.
Now that hes in a jam, EVERYONE decides to chime in.
Just comical.
Joba shakes off more pitches than any 23 year old pitcher I’ve ever seen……How long has he been in the league ????
Got ‘em – Sit down! Nasty stuff right there.
gotta love 3 yankee starters in danger of not making it out of the 3rd inning JUST DAYS APART IN THE SAME WEEK
65 pitches. These pitchers need to stop hanging around Burnett…LOL
I need some strong alcohol
1.more.out
Maybe we should use Mariano now!
ok – one more out…
Dr. Cox – you know how it goes…complaining is much more fun than supporting
Wow Lucky!! that would have been 2 or 3.
Just avoided disaster right there…
Whew. Lucked out there.
“what is OPPC?”
A group of folks on this blog who are positive about the Yankees – except Jorge Posada, Johnny Damon, Brett Gardner, Nick Swisher and Ramiro Pena.
Oh, and Andy Pettitte.
Sa- I’m with ya, I’m going to make a cosmo.
What difference would Cervelli have in this game with joba? Stop Shaking Jorgie off!
JOBA HAS ELECTRIC STUFF TONIGHT!
ARE YOU *&%#ING KIDDING ME?!
This is unbelievable. Do they even have a hit this inning?
its going to be a LONG NIGHT!!
Joba giving away runs. HOW CAN YOU EVEN COME CLOSE TO HITTING A GUY ON 0-2?
You cannot go with that pitch when you know he can’t locate it tonight. Just disgraceful pitch selection by Posada.
Yikes – Whats the story, Joba??
Joba is giving the Mets way too much respect. Wasting so many pitches rather than attacking the zone! Weak.
3 walks & 2 HBP… Did we acquire DiceK??????????????
“Joba shakes off more pitches than any 23 year old pitcher I’ve ever seen……How long has he been in the league ????”
He really does. Remeber the infamous shake off o molina last year.
Completely lost his mechanics.
REALLY!!??!! 5 walks?
Take him out of the game.
I was joking about Cervelli, people!! Calm down.
No hits an two runs. Jobber what is wrong with you!
i went into the shower with the Yankees up 1-0 … put a bottle of white in the freezer to chill and was contemplating dinner options…
Came out with bases loaded and one out…
that’s an emotional roller coaster
BEATING THEMSELVES.
Not even ONE hit this inning. 3 Walks and 2 HBP, ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?
72 pitches.
“what is OPPC?”
A group of folks on this blog who are positive about the Yankees – except Jorge Posada, Johnny Damon, Brett Gardner, Nick Swisher and Ramiro Pena.
Oh, and Andy Pettitte.
***************************************
Umm no. Well speaking for myself, that is.
hughes? please tell me he is available.
What is this? Disaster week?
do not walk freaking Sheff!
http://www.westink.com
When Joba’s velocity is down it means his mechanics are a terrible.
3 BB & 2 HBP? 3-1 to Shef?
Will someone please explain what the hell Dave Eiland does to keep his job on this team?
fvckin pitiful
Okay it was only 2 runs, but it was an AWFUL inning.
Sheff would have been out anyway. He ran out of the baseline.
70 pitches…what the hell is wrong with the yankee pitching. Besides CC and Pettite, no one is going deep into games. this is a joke!
A 43 pitch inning???
Ack — 43 pitches.
Man, talk about giving runs away.
how did he fall apart in the course of 1 inning?
“As far as I’m concerned, little Joba shouldn’t be shaking off Posada. Listen to the vet.”
I think I go more with what Leiter said. He’d rather have a pitcher 100% behind his pitch, even if it turns out to be the wrong one, than 50% behind it because his catcher thinks he should be throwing something else.
fire the pitching coach!
Why didn’t we go to Mariano.
43 pitch inning…………..is that a record or what?????????????????????
This is just unacceptable. When you’re 0-2 on hitters like Martinez and Cora, you HAVE to get them out.
At least you can give Beltran credit for working a good AB. But Joba gift-wrapped those runs because he hit two batters when he had them on the ropes.
All things considered, that was about as cheaply as we could have hoped to get out of that. That is, honest to God, the absolute worst I have ever seen Joba pitch. Seriously, the worst major league inning of his career so far.
74 pitches.
I don’t even know what to say about that inning.
“Will someone please explain what the hell Dave Eiland does to keep his job on this team?”
I think he has pictures of Hank Steinbrenner naked.
so maybe Livan is affected by the loooooooooooong lay off?
Remember who the Mets have on the mound tonight.
If they don’t win this game, it’s certainly not Joba’s fault.
joba is making it really hard to stay on the starter side of the starter v 8th inning reliever. maybe it would be better to prep him to be our closer in 2 years. maybe.
classic joba…
hits a guy to load bases….cant throw an out pitch and walks in a run on a 10 pitch at bat. then hits batter for another run. 2 runs on 0 hits and bases left loaded. good job.
seems joba isnt gonna even go 5 full innings against a garbage mets lineup.
your saying he wasnt more useful in the 8th inning last night???
your all out of your minds! let him start this year. put hughes in the rotation abd get joba to where he will end up this year anyway.
>When Joba’s velocity is down it means his mechanics are a terrible.
He was just doing his best jose veras impression.
I have no problem with Joba shaking Posada off.
I do have a problem with walks and HBP, however.
Rishi he might start throwing harder.
“I don’t even know what to say about that inning.”
I do. It sucked.
Seriously, what has gotten into the pitchers? They were on such a roll. They have apparently hit a roadblock. How can you walk the scrubs that the Mutts are sending up there?
Ok 3 starters barely going 3 innings, got to look at the coaching at some point
pat m -
i don’t understand the yankees putting up with the constant shaking off by joba myself.
this whole thing that a pitcher ultimately decides what pitch to throw isn’t necessarily true.
the manager has the ultimate authority. he can send in the pitches or he can tell the pitcher the catcher is in charge.
with joba, i’d take it out of his hands. he’s gotten too carried away with his secondary pitches.
Heh, at Al getting all disgusted at being on that poll.
Dave Eiland, Veras, Swisher & Berroa all have pictures of Girardi doing something very naughty…Why else would these guys still be here???
Carl – I’m going to have to hope they hit him…I mean really – the pitching is either up or down…what is with the lack of consistency?
When it rains it pours. More pressure on the bullpen tonight. Starters not throwing quality stays
“When Joba’s velocity is down it means his mechanics are a terrible.”
That’s why his velocity varies so much. Same with how much late life he has on the ball.
You can really see it when he tries to reach back. Instead of generating more controlled velocity he’s completely over throwing and is all over the place high.
When Joba was in college he was sitting 90-93. Around there.
He never started throwing high 90’s until he got into the yankee system.
Nardi worked with him and fixed something in his mechanics. That’s when Joba started sitting 95-97 in the minors.
They need to get this figured out.
“I think he has pictures of Hank Steinbrenner naked.”
& I was just eating too….
I remember Eiland was brought up for the big 3, but the only person that he coach in minor was Hughes and he’s pretty average so far……Eiland never prove that he was a good pitching coach yet he was given this job… what a joke
Eiland must go, the young pitchers other than Phil Hughes have been pitiful. Joba needs to be the 8th inning pitcher ( case in point they would have beat the sox last night). Posada should be the everyday dh, cervelli calls a better game and gives the team more energy as well as teams run on him less. Time for the real yankee fans to wake up and realize were watching a paper-tiger that can beat up on the weak teams but can’t beat the teams better than them.
The Mets basically have 2 hitters in their lineup…Beltran & wright…..THAT’S IT..
Now’s the time to get that run back and pick Joba back up. Gardner steals. Jeter or Swisher or Tex bat him in. Come on boys.
Rishi I have no idea.
Nice Brett, ah, I can breathe
Pat M.
June 12th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Joba shakes off more pitches than any 23 year old pitcher I’ve ever seen……How long has he been in the league ????
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Do you know what guys like Martin, Pinella, and Earl Weaver would do to a young pitcher that shook off a veteran catcher that much?
I still think the Yankees have lots of runs left to score, but the frustrating thing is the Yankees had a pitching advantage with Joba against Livan. Now if Tomko has to come into the game in the 5th inning, they lose that advantage.
It’s too bad we ended up wasting Hughes and Aceves in Boston.
so guidry back to work with Wang and Joba?
We need to put up a crooked number here.
I really really hope the Yanks take the lead this innig.
Not just so they have a chance to win, but so some of you morons go back to the couch and stop posting.
Gardner has to run
“so maybe Livan is affected by the loooooooooooong lay off?”
… only if he had time to eat a pizza or two.
JOBA TO THE PEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
enough of this. why isnt hughes in rotation again???
why is veras and eiland here?
why arent there any repercussions for this garbage???
GET WELL SOON GEORGE STEINBRENNER!
That broken bat almost went 3-D on me.
So let me get this straight. A pitcher might have a feel for certain pitches that are working or not working but should defer to the flippin catcher because he knows what he wants thrown?
I don’t think it works that way.
Were the two batters hit on pitches Posada wanted or Joba wanted?
Or could there have been a failure of execution?
“joba is making it really hard to stay on the starter side of the starter v 8th inning reliever. maybe it would be better to prep him to be our closer in 2 years. maybe.”
Not really. If his mechanics are bad as a starter they’ll be bad as a reliever.
It’s not his role that’s the problem. It’s his mechanics and how he’s throwing the ball.
“so guidry back to work with Wang and Joba?”
eiland is starting to be on the hot seat.
the bullpen is a mess and wang, burnett, and joba are all off.
not good.
Another question: Why is Brett Gardner on the team if he NEVER RUNS?
I’m falling asleep.
Jeter seems to be in a funk lately.. He was hitting .321 not too long ago… a wasted opportunity to at least get Gardner to 3rd with a steal would have been nice.. Meanwhile, Poukilis ties the game again.. HATE THE SOX!
Rishi June 12th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
so guidry back to work with Wang and Joba?
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“Girardi said there had been no discussion of the former pitching coach Ron Guidry, a spring training instructor who had a good rapport with Wang, being brought in as a troubleshooter.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06.....ref=sports
Why’d he cross Posada up on that one pitch? What was that all about?
When Posada broke into the bigs, Joba was 8 years old…..Just throw what you’re told to throw……Nobody ever shook off Munson, not even the HOF Catfish Hunter….Tom Terrific never shook off Jerry Grote….Joba you are 23 years old, leave the thinking to the guy behind the plate, he’s been doing this since you were in Boy Scouts……
posada is a hitter he sucks as a pitch caller, and can gardner please steal a damn base once in a while or send him out with the rest of the garbage and bring up rodriguez or jackson. and can someone tell me why angel berrora is still here
Great hitting with risp.
I mean really – take the walk if he’s giving it to you
good to see we fixed the RISP issue.
“Another question: Why is Brett Gardner on the team if he NEVER RUNS?”
Fair point. Hernandez is very slow to the plate. Why didn’t Gardner try to steal third.
And forget this instance. He just doesn’t try to run that often.
He seems scared of making a mistake so he doesn’t use the only tool he has – which is his legs.
why do the people behind the plate even go to a game ?
they are hardly ever watching.
personally i think they should take down the net. that’d wake em up
WOOOOOOOOOW TEX!~
I heard Eiland say he couldn’t stand behind Joba!
“Do you know what guys like Martin, Pinella, and Earl Weaver would do to a young pitcher that shook off a veteran catcher that much?”
I could just hear Pinella right now.
Thank you Mark Tex!!
at least we have tex..
Make up for Joba’s disgusting 3rd, MARKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WANT TO MAKE PASSIONATE LOVE TO MARK TEXIERA.
thank you, Tex
TEX!!!!
“Another question: Why is Brett Gardner on the team if he NEVER RUNS?”
I’m with ya.
“I’m falling asleep.”
I’m with ya.
Why do we have to score all of our runs with homeruns?
I wanna be a bleacher creature!
MVP.
Curse that, Henry, you ancient old jerk.
Hell yea.
See ya, Neggies! (Constant Negative Nellies)
Mark is a beast!
TEX is so hot, does he even know it?
I hate how Teixeira gets a home run or a huuuge hit and then A-Rod grounds out right after that to end the inning.
I hope I’m wrong.
This has nothing to do with the game, but I thought the Yankees hired some great Dr. to replace Stuart Hershon? Did he diagnosis Marte’s tendonitis? Tendonitis is supposed to be a relatively mild injury that can be cured by rest and rehab. How exactly did it turn into something that Marte needs to see Dr. Andrews about?
TEX!.. best free agent signing this year.. CC a close 2nd.. we won’t mention AJ in the conversation..
Thanks Tex! Hopefully a quick inning for Joba next.
Lou in SoCal
June 12th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Why do we have to score all of our runs with homeruns?
oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I agree runs on hits (not HRs) etc would be great and a great way to shut the “home run heaven” people up – but I’ll take runs anyway they can score them
Serf, I hate that too, and last nite, I was pleasantly surprised with A-Rod’s double
Tex is just great…………
run alex. run
that was a rocket by Alex.
scary to think where we’d be without Tex.
There scooping off of the blog on YES. Lieter’s a great commentator. Tex’s getting back at JH
“I WANT TO MAKE PASSIONATE LOVE TO MARK TEXIERA.”
Please tell me that you’re a woman.
he is one of the few people i have any faith with . David wright looked like angel berrora there.
Luckily, I was wrong.
Crushed that gj alex
“Why do we have to score all of our runs with homeruns?”
Beggars can’t be choosy.
cano want in on the action?
Just got back from a quick trip out for Ice Cream. I left they were down 2-1. I’m back and they’re up 3-2. What a great Friday night!!
Okay Jobber you got the run back. Now make it hold up.
“When Posada broke into the bigs, Joba was 8 years old…..Just throw what you’re told to throw……Nobody ever shook off Munson, not even the HOF Catfish Hunter….Tom Terrific never shook off Jerry Grote….Joba you are 23 years old, leave the thinking to the guy behind the plate, he’s been doing this since you were in Boy Scouts……”
On the other hand, I don’t see many pitchers shaking off Molina. It could be that
“posada is a hitter he sucks as a pitch caller”
no – he doesnt
They are getting good hacks against Livan. Joba needs to hold it right here and let the hitters go to work again.
Bring in Phil Hughes !!!!!!!!
“I WANT TO MAKE PASSIONATE LOVE TO MARK TEXIERA.”
Please tell me that you’re a woman.
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Nothing’s wrong with a man crush…right?
lol
“Dave Eiland, Veras, Swisher & Berroa all have pictures of Girardi doing something very naughty…Why else would these guys still be here???”
Nick Swisher has been the third best hitter on the team. So there is that.
hmmm – btw, RS got all their hits on hrs today too
I mean runs
good things yanks have that terrific bullpen to cover all these innings tonight
Lou in SoCal, it’s been like that for years……one of the reasons why this team can not advance past the first round of the playoffs. HRs are at a premium against good pitching……..The Yankees offense is not really built for the post-season because they simply are poor at fundamental baseball. They don’t move runners over, they don’t get runners in from third and less than two outs…..they don’t do the little things.
you know what’s gotta be fun ?
getting ready to play outfield when you know livan is pitching.
talk about be able to run a little.
I’m sick of people saying beggers can’t be choosers the sox beat the yanks last night playing yankee baseball, hits, walks and sacrifices, the yanks have played the sox style for the past five years, station to station and hr’s, no sb, so sacrifices to put on tack on runs that would give the bullpen more room for error.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4251481
I always enjoy reading about Mo……
I don’t understand all of the nibbling after you have the guy 0-2. Just go after him.
“Nick Swisher has been the third best hitter on the team. So there is that.”
You can hit .400 but if you constantly get picked off, what good does it do anyone other than your opponents?
“Nick Swisher has been the third best hitter on the team. So there is that.”
But that wasn’t really true two weeks ago was it?
Will it be true two weeks from now?
Very difficult to look at Swisher’s aggregate statistics at any point in time and make a strong conclusion about him as his production has shown such dramatic variation.
He’s been wildly inconsistent and over a short period of time (the season to date) it’s hard to know what to make of his production.
I feel like im watching yankees classics with Jaret wright with all the knibbling joba does
the idea that Posada is remotely to blame for Joba not locating his fastball, or any of his pitches for that matter, is crazy to me.
The fact that Joba can and does shake Posada off is fine. It’s his job, and his job alone, to execute the pitches that are called or that he calls himself.
Betsy for someone as great as Mo, its a a shame their isn’t a lot more articles about him.
Joba is very inconsistent with his velocity. One day is throwing 97-98 mph and some days he’s throwing 91-93 mph.
ZERO fastball command!
“Maybe we should use Mariano now!”
That was awesome
Jones
June 12th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
“Do you know what guys like Martin, Pinella, and Earl Weaver would do to a young pitcher that shook off a veteran catcher that much?”
I could just hear Pinella right now.
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Take it back further, ex-catcher, manager and Army Ranger Ralph Houk would have him sitting for a long time. Ted williams would have traded him, for that and he had no use for pitchers. His theory was that they weren’t ball players and barely athletes and put on Earth to hit.
“Nothing’s wrong with a man crush…right?
lol”
You know what they say, different strokes for different folks. But I understand what you mean. Tex isn’t classically gorgeous like some of the other guys, but his play on the field makes him seem very sexy.
Either this game lacks energy, or I do.
not
another
walk
“I don’t see many pitchers shaking off Molina”
Except Joba in a notable case that’s already been referenced in this thread?
Swisher has been good for the yanks, would you rather have the betimit sandwhich on the bench. Also he isn’t and everyday player and the injury to nady has hurt some of his production
strikes Jobber
Strikes
UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: Joba working on a one-hitter!
Someone remind Joba of that. Stop nibbling!!
Full count after full count after full count. Hughes + Tomko after this or what? Or will we see the Phil’s again?
>You can hit .400 but if you constantly get picked off, what good does it do anyone other than your opponents?”
Nope. I’d take the .400 hitter.
Forgive me for the caps, but….
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU WALKING A BUM LIKE CASTILLO??!!!!!
Whew, had to get that off of my chest.
walks to the 9th batter. this happens way too much.
Bruney activated tomorrow? what does that really mean?
shades of the AJ Burnett 9-walk no hitter
too much time together?
4 innings, 4 walks 2 hbp 1 hit
not good
I know we really want guys back to help out. But is it a good idea to skip minor league assignments? I don’t know the answer, just asking the question.
pat m-
i like a pitching style where fastball command is emphasized .
i really don’t think eiland pushes fastball command.
if he did, he’d be flipping out with joba throwing so many secondary pitches
joba is done after this inning
i agree you dont see many shake offs of the molina’s, varitek, and mauer, even cc didnt shake cervelli this much and cervelli is a kid
>not good
ATROCIOUS!!!!!!!
“Joba is very inconsistent with his velocity. One day is throwing 97-98 mph and some days he’s throwing 91-93 mph.”
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I don’t remember him throwing 97 early on in any game. It seems he needs to warm up quite a bit (perhaps a result of his rotation to bullpen flip-flopping).
Either way, his velocity seems to increase as games go on.
And that’s not the problem anyway. If he locates at 91 and locates his other pitches, he’s going to do just fine.
“the idea that Posada is remotely to blame for Joba not locating his fastball, or any of his pitches for that matter, is crazy to me.”
It’s crazy to any sane person. At this point, I think people who believe this have a character flaw.
Not to be redundant, but…toooooooo many pitches.
Come on, Joba. This is just silly.
I can’t remember the guys name, but is the former pitching coach for the Braves still around?
are you kidding me…
Tricia, Joba shook off Moilina one night, and it cost the team the game………I remember a game we played Rochester and the great Ken Clat kept shaking off Rick Dempsey…..Dempsey comes out to the mound and chewed him another arse ……Veteran catchers do not light to be shaken off by some kid pitcher who thinks he knows more, which they never do……
7th free pass.
joba losing support by the minute.
This is why the “Joba to the bullpen” chant starts. Walking crappy hitters. Unreal.
i’m, sooooo tired of these long-winded innings.. 95 pitches in 3 2/3…
When did we trade Joba for David Price.
just get this kid out – don’t get to the 3-4 guys
This has to be Joba’s last hitter.
This pitching staff is a disgrace. They nibble nibble nibble and walk a bunch of weak hitting 8 and 9 hitters every night and give away runs.
“Nope. I’d take the .400 hitter.”
OK, when Swisher hits .400, or pulls his head out of his bungus, one or the other, then I’ll stop riding him.
Why is it so hard to throw strikes to Castillo and Cora?? You can groove a fastball down the middle and the worst they’ll probably do is hit a single.
i would not be surprised that there is something wrong with joba physically.
maybe not pain, but weakness.
his ability to throw a simple fastball has been erratic all year.
Almost at 100 pitches.
velocity down again, no command.
i’m beginning to think he belongs in the pen except if he goes to the pen that means wang stays in the rotation.
there is officially one dependably good starter on this staff. fantastic.
My dad just said “5 walks? Put him back where he belongs in the bullpen.”
…….
get a load of those strikes
Joba doing his best Brackman impersonation
look at Phil Hughes there in the bullpen, even he knows eiland and girardi don’t know what to do, he is out there in a daze
Betsy
June 12th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Lou in SoCal, it’s been like that for years……one of the reasons why this team can not advance past the first round of the playoffs. HRs are at a premium against good pitching……..The Yankees offense is not really built for the post-season because they simply are poor at fundamental baseball. They don’t move runners over, they don’t get runners in from third and less than two outs…..they don’t do the little things.
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Why can’t anyone in the front office figure this out?
>UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: Joba working on a one-hitter!
bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Who is going to replace Girardi next year? Any chance we could get Bobby V? Maybe Tino as a 3B coach?
Girardi can go learn how to manage in AA or somewhere like that, maybe the independant league…
I hope the .400 hitter isn’t batting leadoff. He might pick up a few RBIs.
this is why joba will win 8 games in 28 starts..bc he doesnt go deep enought to qualify for the damn win.
lets start a petition, David cone or Al leiter for pitching coach
Since when can’t Joba Chamberlain finish off batters when ahead in the count?
He’s got to be hurt.
In fact this whole lack of velocity all year-I’m convinced he’s been hurt all year just doesn’t want to deal with it so he picks his spots to actually throw to his full potential.
Remember when everybody went nuts with the “To the Pen Fury” right after one of his worst starts of the year?
Well the next game he came out a smoked everybody avg fastball was 95.7 and he K’d double digits right?
I think he’s hurt.
This pitching staff makes me want to pull my hair out.
Guys, seriously.
If Joba can’t throw strikes now what makes you think he’s going to throw strikes in the pen when he knows that any mistake pitch is going to be the game potentially?
What makes you think he would nibble less when there is more pressure?
It’s not a matter of starter or reliever. If he had the stuff he has right now as a reliever he would be slightly above average at best. It’s his mechanics, and when those are right, nobody in their RIGHT MIND would want him in the pen.
see what happens when you let the defense do their job? you get outs
“This pitching staff is a disgrace. They nibble nibble nibble and walk a bunch of weak hitting 8 and 9 hitters every night and give away runs.”
How is he nibbling?
He has no idea where his fastball is going. That’s obvious.
That’s different than “nibbling”
And he knows he can’t control his fastball. That’s why he keeps shaking off posada. That and he falls in love with his slider too often.
“June 12th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
This is why the “Joba to the bullpen” chant starts. Walking crappy hitters. Unreal.”
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huh?
so if he’s in the pen he suddenly gains control of his pitches?
We don’t need another Jose Veras in the pen. We need a dominant starter. Joba just needs to get some consistency with the fastball.
If he doesn’t, it won’t matter where he pitches.
4 IP
100 pitches
going to have to go to the pen early again
serenity now
wait a second…
the yankees are winning?
I need to stop reading this blog or I’ll assume the Yankees are losing by 8 runs every game.
Joba has to learn to stop nibbling. 4innings, 100 pitches. Mets only 2 hitters in this line up are Wright and Beltran. He should not be walking these other guys. Another long night for the bullpen.
I don’t buy that Joba is injured. I think he’s young and stupid and doesn’t know how to control his stuff. David Price is going through the same thing. Kid can’t throw less than 100 pitches in 4 innings. Not sure if they are trying to hard or what but these rookies need to get their act together.
I dont understand why all you guys are not big leauge managers.
I dont understand why all you guys are not big leauge managers.
I dont understand why all you guys are not big leauge managers.
Tex coming up clutch…
Joba struggles, now prevails…
Beer bellies swelling…
side issue: one pitch outs are irritating too
“4 IP
100 pitches”
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not good
but if there is a silver lining, it’s that most pitchers that throw 100 pitches over 4 have also given up 6 runs
Back to the same place. The people who fall apart when Posada is questioned are back on their high horses. Very predictable!
Talk about insane.
(Not you Pat M.)
I think the Yankees have already broken the record for most deep fly balls in one game. Everyone is trying to hit a homerun, but it would be nice to see them string together a few base hits.
I just can’t believe what I read on other boards – everyone blaming Eiland or the whole organization for Joba’s struggles, the inability of our pitcher’s to throw strikes, etc……..I want to know when the pitchers start taking responsibility for their performances, esp. the vets. Andy has been around the block – I think he should know what he’s doing on the mound.
Stop clamoring for Phil – he can’t pitch tonight.
Uh, yes, it is him nibbling.
When he needs to throw a strike on say 3-0 and 3-1 he is easily doing it. The problem is that he is trying to make perfect pitches on guys who don’t have enough power to make him pay.
“lets start a petition, David cone or Al leiter for pitching coach”
Not sure if the villagers would torch me out of town for saying this, but how about the rocket for pitching coach?
100 pitches in 4 innings.. That is ridiculous and only hurts the bullpen..
Trisha-
Hope you are well.
The Yanks got hot right after your letter of resignation.
Dismissed as coincidence? Perhaps not.
Hope you are in a good place post your decision to leave that job…
Cheers. -dennis
Good for Molina.
Yanks offense needs to pick it up for Joba and the pen here.
“huh? so if he’s in the pen he suddenly gains control of his pitches?”
That’s not what I said. People start saying “put him in the pen” when he has mediocre starts like tonight. He doesn’t belong in the pen. He should be a starter, but until he learns how to compete, he adds fuel to the “put him in the pen” chant.
“i’m beginning to think he belongs in the pen except if he goes to the pen that means wang stays in the rotation.”
kasey, are you trying to be wrong about two Yankee controversies in one post? Nice try, but you’re nowhere near the record.
And I remember the blog almost exploded the night that Joba kept shaking off Molina. Hopefully Jose is talking some sense into him now.
“I dont understand why all you guys are not big leauge managers.”
“I dont understand why all you guys are not big leauge managers.”
“I dont understand why all you guys are not big leauge managers.”
Wait, so what don’t you understand…?
Do Joba and Posada even get along?
“That’s not what I said. People start saying “put him in the pen” when he has mediocre starts like tonight.”
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fair enough – you’re right.
of course the logic doesn’t really hold up for those that want to make that argument. if joba is walking guys, he’s gonna struggle in the pen too.
“Can’t put this on Posada.” — David Cone
Now when Cone says it we all believe it, right? We lowly blog commententers don’t question David Cones, do we?
but if there is a silver lining, it’s that most pitchers that throw 100 pitches over 4 have also given up 6 runs
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True true
Things could have been worse
another inning of joba?>
damn..joba couldnt make it through 5 innings.
I would have given him another inning. If he didn’t get the first guy out, I would have pulled him.
As bad as Joba was, he kept the Yanks in the game.
Now it’s up to the, gulp, bullpen.
At least Mariano is rested after having last night off
another pitcher having issues with posada…..shocker
It may be a silver lining to only give up 1 run with 100 pitches, but this has a lasting effect on the bullpen getting overwork constantly this last week with AJ, Wang and now Joba.
Hey dennis! Nice to see you and thanks for remembering. With the more time that goes by I am more and more convinced that the decision I made was the correct one. It’s definitely an adjustment though. The craziest part, though I have heard this same thing from others without jobs, is that I seem busier now than I was when I was working. Maybe it just means that all of the things that you have to let slip when you don’t have time to do them are now staring me in the eye, and I have no excuses.
“Now when Cone says it we all believe it, right? We lowly blog commententers don’t question David Cones, do we?”
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only when he disagrees with us… in which case we can suggest that he was drinking heavily when he made the mistake
Fastball and slider…
Pitches, Joba to the pen…
Commanding once more…
5 walks. The entire pitching staff is a walking machine.
“Can’t put this on Posada.”—David Cone”
Even if Cone said it or not, I don’t put the blame on Posada.
“fair enough – you’re right. ”
Boston Dave, do you want to hire a skywriter and have that etched across the Chicago skyline?
wow 4 innings.
I’m going to pick up dinner…not abandoning ship – I’ll be back in a bit
“It may be a silver lining to only give up 1 run with 100 pitches, but this has a lasting effect on the bullpen getting overwork constantly this last week with AJ, Wang and now Joba.”
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no doubt.
Girardi and Cashman are no dummies. That’s why they have not one, not two, but three long men in the pen!
and if you tell a friend, they’ll throw in a 4th one for free!!!
Brett Tomko time
Strikes Brett
“Do Joba and Posada even get along?”
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Yeah, not saying that that’s the reason Joba struggled tonight, but it doesn’t look like they have much chemistry. I can see a guy like Posada NOT appreciating a young kid like Joba shaking him off.
What is it with these guys not throwing strikes?
EVERYONE is nibbling. It’s a consistent approach of fearing the hitters and pitching off the corners. Why not go after some guys with good fastballs?
If the approach is consistently this way, even with the veterans like Pettitte, it’s very strange.
Contrary to popular belief, Joba’s struggles right now does not mean he would be better off in the bullpen.
What we’re seeing is inconstancy in Joba’s ability to locate his fastball. Good command doesn’t just appear out of nowhere when you become a reliever. I could picture Joba having dominant outings as a set-up man, but I could also see him coming into the Boston game last night and walking Kevin Youkilis.
Contrary to popular belief, Joba’s struggles right now does not mean he would be better off in the bullpen.
What we’re seeing is inconstancy in Joba’s ability to locate his fastball. Good command doesn’t just appear out of nowhere when you become a reliever. I could picture Joba having dominant outings as a set-up man, but I could also see him coming into the Boston game last night and walking Kevin Youkilis.
Are you kidding me with this Joba/Posada business. Posada usually catches Joba. You’ve heard Joba say Posada and I were on the same page all night. Tonight was an off night. It happens. Geez. Do the Jorge haters forget what happened to this team when Posada was lost for the year last year? How quickly we forget.
June 12th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
As bad as Joba was, he kept the Yanks in the game.
Now it’s up to the, gulp, bullpen.
At least Mariano is rested after having last night off
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I love joba. But you cant walk 5, and leave the game in 4 innings for 100 pitches.
“As bad as Joba was, he kept the Yanks in the game. ”
This is a joke, right? or does 4 innings by a starter now count as a quality start?
“Boston Dave, do you want to hire a skywriter and have that etched across the Chicago skyline? ”
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would you settle for a highway billboard about an hour north of Pittsburgh?
swisher mis plays the ball again..shocking
Nick Swisher, YOU DOPE!
Swisher needs to be benched!!
THREE NIGHTS IN A ROW Swisher makes a boneheaded play..
Girardi has no guts for letting him continue to play.
I have no comment.
Ack, Swisher.
The harder Joba throws the better his command is. He struggles with low velocity.
When he finds a way to consistently throw hard that’s when he’ll be more consistent with his command.
I bet Austin Jackson can play better than Swish has been?
>This is a joke, right? or does 4 innings by a starter
>now count as a quality start?
For the Yanks, yes.
Said with a la-de-dah attitude and total calm – I am so sick and tired of Nick Swisher.
Thank you.
boston dave-
not being sarcastic, but are you watching the game on tv?
it was painful watching joba pitch.
Guys, seriously, that ball was over his head. Swisher did well to get to that ball at all. He had to leap for it to even go off the top of his glove. Lay off.
Hard hit ball right at him over his head. Come on Yankee fans.
“would you settle for a highway billboard about an hour north of Pittsburgh?”
Well, okay, but I doubt I’ll be able to see it from Chicago. I’ll take your word for it that it’s there.
ouch
Stop making that dope Francessa look like he knows what he’s talking about.
Swish needs a day off.
when can we DFA Swisher?????
I kid….kinda – his baserunning and fielding are just awful.
is there anyone in the bullpem besides mo that can consistently throw strikes?
and hold runners on???
Swisher GIVES AWAY the tying run. Girardi has lost all respect in the clubhouse as he continues to let Swisher completely give it away on the field by playing dumb baseball and having no consequences.
The Yankees are very poor fundamentally. How many times have we seen guys steal bases off us because the pitchers just never paid attention to the runner?
Even though Swisher is a bozo in the outfield, you can tell that ball curved because of the wind tunnel when it was hit to him.
This is going to get ugly..
Watch it again, Nick couldn’t have gotten to that.
“THREE NIGHTS IN A ROW Swisher makes a boneheaded play..
Girardi has no guts for letting him continue to play.”
Unless there is no one to put in his place, I have to agree with you.
2nd verse, same as the first.
Swisher should have had that ball. Not a good outfielder.
“Well, okay, but I doubt I’ll be able to see it from Chicago. I’ll take your word for it that it’s there.”
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I was in Chicago a week ago. You should have ‘been right’ then. bad timing…
I got lost on the south side and then got the heck outta there!
is this for real?
6 BB already terrible
Meanwhile, Brett Tomko picks up where Joba left off.
If we don’t touch Livan for another 4 runs or so, there’s no way we win this game.
“Even though Swisher is a bozo in the outfield, you can tell that ball curved because of the wind tunnel when it was hit to him.”
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Lol.
I dropped a similar ball in a league game last year. damn wind.
We’ve already seen what happens when you put a guy in the bullpen whose got a fastball and slider and no idea where they’re going. That guy is named Jose Veras.
What did Swisher do, or fail to do?
Papelbon fined for slow play
PHILADELPHIA (AP)—Boston Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon(notes) has been fined by major league baseball for slow play.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
A starter should be able to throw 120-130 pitches every start. Above that borders on abuse. There’s no reason Joba couldn’t have gone out for the 5th to try and save an inning on the pen.
Boston Dave- 3 long men is a bad sign I would think? Only the Yankees can come up with this..lol
Great game BTW on NBC with game 7 Pens/Wings…0-0 end of 1.
Memo to Yankee pitching staff,
THROW STRIKES!!!!
Why is Joba even talking to Molina? The person he should be talking to is Posada and get this crap worked out.
Now we’re in the pen…
Hands wringing, popcorn popping…
Trouble looms larger…
Failed to catch a fairly catchable ball in the outfield, Bodhi.
Horrible fundamentals!
Swisher kills. And so does this bullpen.
I missed it, what happened?
Good for the Mets.
I’m switching chanels for awhile…
thanks nick!!
we want a pitcher, not a belly itcher
Thank you Joba for putting in these scrubs after your lackluster effort tonight.. Tomko is hardly the answer!
Ah well. Hopefully they can battle back. Definitely need help from the bullpen though.
HA, this is getting laughable. and look, another day another error.
Trisha.
Well said.
Karma is real. IMO.
-dennis
this team just isnt very good right now.
So long, Tomko. You just pitched yourself out of a job. Have fun in Scranton.
Trace this back to Joba not going deep into the game.
good stuff. gooooood stuff from the yankees.
as constructed, this team will be lucky to make the playoffs. get to work, brian. time to clean up the mess you made.
Laura, – June 12th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I don’t buy that Joba is injured. I think he’s young and stupid and doesn’t know how to control his stuff. David Price is going through the same thing. Kid can’t throw less than 100 pitches in 4 innings. Not sure if they are trying to hard or what but these rookies need to get their act together.
One big difference Laura…Price is throwing 95mph+ from pitch number one thru 100.
If Joba’s not hurt then I’m actually much more concerned.
A lot of pitchers play hurt especially the younger ones because they know a DL stint or godforbid Tommy John stint can often turn into a 2 year full recovery in most cases.
For veteran guys it’s not as big of a deal because they’ve most likely already had their “BIG PAY DAY” having already reached free agency etc…
It wouldn’t surprise me that he wants to pitch thru whatever it is that may or may not be bothering him.
Again…IF HE’s HURT HAH
I hope he’s hurt.
AGAIN, NICK SWISHER TURNS A GAME AROUND FOR AN OPPOSING TEAM BY MAKING A BONEHEADED PLAY.
AGAIN, CLUELESS JOE GIRARDI LEAVES HIM IN THE GAME.
Nick Swisher has single handedly set up huge innings in 2/3 games and probably turned around the last 2 games before tonight with his boneheaded baserunning.
WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?
Boneheaded plays are GIVING AWAY GAMES.
Nobody can make any more excuses for this pathetic play. You ABSOLUTELY CANNOT PLAY POOR FUNDAMENTAL BASEBALL IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES.
If you cannot make plays like that, you should be on the bench. Girardi is just an idiot.
The need to place a segway near the dugout, bc theses pitchers are wearing eiland out with mound visits
Don’t worry Swisher haters. Brett Tomko is so awful, Swisher’s misplay won’t matter in the long run.
Ugh. Do we have a name for this kind of crappy play?
Is Cashman looking for any help? Where is he?
Yanks should take 2 of 3 from the Mets.
Swisher makes Matt Holliday a more attractive option in July if Oakland bails on him, but seriously Swish has done this 3 games in a row, unbelievable!
Yeah rufuswashere its called Yankee Baseball
UGLY
For a second, I thought Sheff’s homerun would be the first to the upper deck in the new stadium…that would have been sad.
“Why is Joba even talking to Molina?”
Do you have to ask? Some of the Jorge blind supporters don’t want to admit that some of the pitchers may not be the biggest fans of his. Which is fine.
But he was talking to Posada some the inning before.
Two strikes!!!!
I’m so tired of our bullen. Seriously
Oh come on Gary Sheffield? Please! He is fried cooked done. Shut those Met fans up this is an embarrassment.
Yankees continue their suck streak.
Love hearing how loud the cheers are for the Mets in the Bronx.
This game is all on Joba. It’s obvious our bullpen is weak, and the Yankees needed him to give 6-7 quality innings.
it feels like we are never going to win again.
It’s not the MT curse it’s the David Ortiz buried jersey curse!
Had to be that a-hole, didn’t it?
Joba sucked, but seriously, we took him out for THIS?
“rconn23 June 12th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Don’t worry Swisher haters. Brett Tomko is so awful, Swisher’s misplay won’t matter in the long run.”
How can you not hate Swisher? The guy is a joke of a player, plain and simple.
well this game turned ugly quickly. all stemming from Nick Swishers BS play. What is that guy thinking? that will cost the game. especially with the bullpen going on now. simply awful.
bad job by joba and swisher here tonight.
Still no outs.
Boy when it rains it pours for Girardi. Tomko can’t even get one out. Yet another great all for pitching!
How can this team go from being the worst team imaginable, to being the best team imaginable, back to being the worst team imaginable, all in the space of about one month? How?
Brett Tomko, Ladies and Gentleman.
You know, he’s been bad his whole career.
*call
same old story. same old yankees, no pitching
nothing new, haven’t had it the past 5 seasons
Thanks, Angel.
Just tuned in after 1st period of Stanley Cup finals.
…just in time to see Sheff hit it out..off Tomko….
swimming..
Nick Swisher SINGLE HANDEDLY turns what was not a big deal whatsoever and turned it into a HUGE INNING.
When you miss routine fly balls, you are going to get burned every time. You cannot make plays that awful in the major leagues against a good team and expect them to NOT burn you.
I don’t care one bit about whether Tomko makes a bad pitch after that play. The point is that you took a team that was sputtering and gave them a ton of confidence, which means it doesn’t matter what Tomko does, because they are going to crush you regardless because you gave them a ton of hope.
Tomko has made some great pitches and gotten hit. But what do you think happens if the Mets don’t get that lucky break? They probably ground those to second because they are sputtering.
Nick Swisher lost 2 games in Fenway Park and took them RIGHT OUT OF ANOTHER GAME.
Nick Swisher has to be benched. If Girardi does not bench Nick Swisher, he should be fined. If he still doesn’t bench him, he should be fired.
HEY! LOOK! IT’S AN OUT!
Go DIAF, Brett Tomko.
Hey, I managed to have a small vent without resorting to Caps Lock abuse and without writing a half page essay.
Joes expression is priceless. just a blank stare.
I really wanna say a whole bunch of of bad words right now
Our past pounds away…
Swinging, slashing, feared hitter…
Was once, again still…
I feel that Joba needs to develop a sinker to get one and two pitch outs. He’s a strike out pitcher but needs to learn how to be a pitcher. He can’t try to strike every one out every at bat.
When this team stinks, it really, really stinks to the point I am embarassed.. Losing 9 in a row to the Sox is too much to handle, but now the METS!!
“Why is Joba even talking to Molina?”
These things happen. Him & Posada will be fine.
How quickly people turn on Swish. He carried this team through April and certain people are ready to dump him. nice.
You can’t particularly blame this on Brett Tomko. He’s not a good pitcher. He’s got lots major league experience and he has his decent innings, but… this is not a big surprise.
This is where the Wang debacle comes back to bite us again. We can live, theoretically, with Wang coming back on the fly and Hughes caddying for him. But that means that two roster spots are going to one start and the pen is even shorter. Short pen + AJ flailing and Wang flailing and Joba flailing… rough stuff.
Lot of game left tonight. I don’t see a 6-3 final score.
dennis, I am a huge believer in karma. I actually can’t understand people who don’t believe in it. Call it by other names or use phrases to describe it, but what goes around comes around.
“well this game turned ugly quickly. all stemming from Nick Swishers BS play. What is that guy thinking? that will cost the game.”
Great rationale. Brett Tomko throwing batting practice fastballs or Joba Chamberlain walking seven in four innings had nothing to do with it.
“How can this team go from being the worst team imaginable, to being the best team imaginable, back to being the worst team imaginable, all in the space of about one month? How?”
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Because it’s baseball. Because it’s a 162 game season. Because players and pitchers go through slumps. I don’t think it’s particular to the Yankees.
OK, this is just ridiculous.
Tomko struck out Sheffield and just struck out Castillo twice and the umpire didn’t call either of them. Disgraceful
10th free pass?
The curse of MT. We lose again while the Sox are winning. Maybe Mr. Henry is right !
How sad that we paid all that money in the offseason to have Brett Tomko pitching in the 5th inning of a 1-run game against the Mets.
Why do they keep walking Castillo? Don’t they know that he sucks and that the Mutts wanted to get rid of him, but couldn’t find anyone to take him?
walk..walk…walk..walk..walk..walk..walk. just pathetic. I love the yankees but they stink right now.
At least the Mets don’t have Jose Reyes or Carlos Delgado…
Its about time that JoeG calls for Robertson
two walks to the number 9 hitter
if cashman is not actively looking for bullpen help at this moment he should be fired immediately. this staff is starting to fall apart.
7 walks total given up by Yankee pitchers
oye, this is bad
Our bullpen is the worst
I don’t believe in Karma. What goes around doesn’t always come around.
Looks like Bruney is getting activated tomorrow. Wonder who will be let go, Veras or Tomko.
Swish is playing like a little leaguer and the pitching is atrocious..
the ump seems to be squeezing the yanks big time
Well look at that. Tomko was throwing 90-91 tonight when he was usually up to 93-94. What does that tell you about the fact that Girardi used him on just 2 days rest after throwing like 60 pitches?
Seriously. Joba – not a starter Pete. 100 games left. Let Joba learn to be a starter in the winter or next year. this team needs an 8th inning guy. And now. Joba is not a starter – yes lots of talent and potential – but – he’s not getting better is he?
“How quickly people turn on Swish. He carried this team through April and certain people are ready to dump him. nice.”
Not sure about that, jen. I think that people are getting to see perhaps the real Swisher and that new view has changed their opinion of him. You have to admit that his play in the OF leaves a bit to be desired.
and if Nady cannot come back…..this team needs an outfielder so that Swisher can go back to being a spot starter.
can anyone throw a first pitch strike
if george has one lucid moment and is watching on tv someone is going to get fired.
and what burns me even more is that redsox are winning 2-1..and lester is mowing them down in the 7th inn
this bullpen is not going to cut it.
tomko should not be on the team.
girardi has very few options to go to.
ace robertson,coke are decent but should be used in very limited roles.
bruney coming back gives us at least a good 8th inning pitcher but only one.
outside of mo & bruney the yankees have no pitchers that can pitch the 8th or close.
the red sox have at least 4 not including smoltz,penney.
Guys, stop it. What does it matter who our set up man is if our starter goes 4? Cashman can’t do anything to prepare for this, stop blaming him.
How about Joba nibbling on the #9 hitter every time? Or the fact that Girardi continues to bring in the wrong pitchers? Or the fact that Swisher GAVE THE METS LIFE by missing a ROUTINE fly ball?
jennifer
I don’t want to dump him but I would like to smack a little sense into him a little.
At least Jon Lester’s not pitching at a Cy Young level over the past couple weeks. Or am I confusing him with Brad Penny? No? A
AJ Burnett?
ugh
I know about karma. I don’t like it.
Okay, it was only three games in Fenwayy and it was only five games earlier this season and Joba definitely should start, and there are a lot of games remaining, and oh, it will all be alright…
After what we’ve seen of late from Wang, Joba, AJ, the pen, etc. – is it time to panic YET?
I’d say yes.
It’s great to be optimistic but let’s call it what it is – this team is terrible right now.
Robertson is going to walk him
Of course people can discuss what they want, but why argue about whether there is or is not such a thing as karma? Whether such a thing exists or not is a matter of faith and belief, not empirical proof.
Girardi is a joke for leaving Nick Swisher in these games.
Three straight nights he has completely tanked it out there and nothing?
He should have been pulled when he missed the fly ball right after getting doubled off first, but Girardi had no guts. He should have been pulled last night when he made a WORSE baserunning mistake, but Girardi has no guts. Now he should be pulled tonight, but again, Girardi has no guts.
I thought it was three strikes and you’re out? Apparently it’s 4, 5, 6, 7, …
Tomko has not stunk his whole career! In 1997 he had a good season-his rookie year!!
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/p.....rpage/8132
Yankees can come back. All they need to do is keep on swinging for the fences. &-8 solo homers should do it!!!!
Runner on first base…
Robertson is Joe G.’s move…
Manuel scheming…
Not turning on Swish at all, Jen. I don’t want him taken out at dawn and shot or anything like that. But I’d be lying if I wasn’t somewhat slightly aggravated with him the last three games either.
I wonder what excuse Girardi will come up with to baby Swisher. There is zero accountability on the Yanks. I’m sure Swisher will be in the lineup again tomorrow regardless of how many bonehead plays he makes and how much he hurts the team.
Yankees suck.
Thing about Swish is when you have that haircut and his goofy approach then you see his play in the outfield it kinda makes us fans view him as someone not serious at what he does.. maybe a bit lackadaisical.. that can turn us off as fans when it starts costing the Yanks a chance to win games.
maybe Doc Gooden can pitch again
i hate to be negative, ive tried to stay off the boards because of my negativity, but this organization is laughable.
We played well, everybody loves him, blah blah blah, Joe Girardi overmanages where he shouldnt and undermanages where he shouldnt.
To top this, YES broadcast team might as well be the opposing teams broadcast team night in and night out. This SICK PER VERT David Cone or Al Leiter, talking about how Gary Sheffield should savor that blast. He doesnt even remotely care that were down 3 runs, the way Eck, Orsillo, Remy, and every ESPN anchor licks the red sox clean.
Joba has 4 pitches. He doesn’t need a sinker. Needs to throw strikes.
Swisher is a below average outfielder.
Nice D-Rob.
Carl, there are different views on karma, and as someone once pointed out here, the eastern view of karma is that you don’t necessarily see it in this lifetime (they believe in reincarnation.) On the other hand, I have definitely seen things come around. Of course it doesn’t mean that things come around in the exact way they go out. For instance, my hypothetical kindnesses in life will come back on me in ways where I might have an abundance of blessings come my way but none necessarily appearing in the same form as what I may have done for others.
My belief in karma stands me well in terms of people’s meanspiritedness or nastiness to others because I know that, as they say in the bible, retribution is not mine. I don’t have to do anything other than feel confident that people who put out rotteness have it visited in back on them at some point and in some way or another.
JMO
“I feel that Joba needs to develop a sinker to get one and two pitch outs.”
just what posada needs, another pitch for more shake offs.
but seriously joba probably couldn’t throw a sinker from his arm slot. sinkerball pitchers are usually 3/4.
joba needs to learn to command his fastball.
that’ll put the ball in play.
Come on, bats! Let’s go!
I wonder if Livan took a nap that inning. Took forever
good job Robertson
“It’s great to be optimistic but let’s call it what it is – this team is terrible right now.”
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terrible enough to be in the wildcard spot right now?
“Tomko has not stunk his whole career! In 1997 he had a good season-his rookie year!!’
Hahaha!
Is there any question about whether Bruney will be activated tomorrow? The bullpen will be fried after tonight. They have no choice but to bring Bruney back.
Hmm…sounds eerily similar to the circumstances with Wang.
Who is coming in for Swisher? Damon of the “twitchy” eye?
Matsui of the “gimpy” legs? Berroa? Pena? Maybe Jeter can help us out!
Nice Robertson.
I wonder if Lester will give up 3 runs in the next inning!
oh wait…
he probably doesnt have 100 pitches, he probably has thrown 30 pitches all night.
I dont think that Girardi has an option on Swisher, Damon can’t play tonight
Penguins 1-0 .. Maxim Talbot scores.. great game so far!
Maxim Talbot!
“Matsui of the “gimpy” legs? Berroa? Pena? Maybe Jeter can help us out!”
What about Pena? I don’t think he’s a bad player.
Thanks for that insight randy l.
Faithfully follow…
Defend empiricism…
Root for the Yankees…
“Of course people can discuss what they want, but why argue about whether there is or is not such a thing as karma?”
not to mention the karma being discussed isn’t even the original concept of karma.
Ok, this is seriously getting ridiculous how every single ball is hit to the warning track for an out.
Benny, Lester is at 111 pitches. I would think he is done for the night.
“Girardi is a joke for leaving Nick Swisher in these games.”
See, this comment makes no sense to me, Matt. You know that Nady is on the DL. You know that Damon has got something wrong with him. If Swisher isn’t in the OF, who is supposed to be out there? Matsui? Matsui is lucky he can jog to 1B. Girardi’s hands are tied in terms of the bullpen and the OF. That is Cashman’s fault IMO.
time to bring up Austin Jackson
They need to lose Berroa already and bring back Shelley. He certainly has earned a chance, good arm. He’s not an everyday guy, but an option to play the OF, has energy and can pinch hit. Berroa adds no value.
How many balls are we going to hit on the warning track tonight?
All I can say is this is embarassing. Livian is awful so always a shot to come back. I am hopeful still.
Nick.
hope you are well.
Any travel? New photos?
New bets? -dennis
Actually they said Damon is available tonight. Even then it doesn’t matter! That’s what you guys don’t get. The guy has shown no concentration whatsoever and continues to make the same mistakes night after night. It’s not about who you can put out there in his place, it’s about making an example of him and showing the players that dumb baseball will not be tolerated.
By leaving Swisher out there, he loses a ton of respect from his team.
# randy l. June 12th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
“Of course people can discuss what they want, but why argue about whether there is or is not such a thing as karma?”
not to mention the karma being discussed isn’t even the original concept of karma.
Thank you. Some people don’t understand that.
another solo homer
Jeter with a HR!
THANK YOU JETER!
7 homeruns left
wooooooooo loving the captain
Yes, another run scored by a HR, but we’ll gladly take it.
This team cannot score without the long ball. What is going to happen when they start playing on the road?
S.A.: Livan was snacking on innings in the clubhouse.
Who wants to bet that Jeter won’t set his career high for home runs?
They needed to score here. Now have a shot let’s try to add one more bomb. Swisher redemption just get on and hope Tex or Alex get into one.
swisher needs to make up for that play in the outfield
I think Jeter hates getting beaten by the Mets even more than he hates getting beaten by the Sox.
keep on chipping away
Maybe Jeter should take a curtain call for that.
Haha, love how Michael Kay just said “wait…”
Pulling a Barney Stinson there.
This is becoming unacceptable. I know it’s early and I haven’t given up on the game yet BUT I don’t like what I’m seeing. I’m getting tired of watching the wasted talent of the 100mph man who now throws 91mph and plays pretend out there every start.
Go Jeter!
Nick in SF June 12th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
S.A.: Livan was snacking on innings in the clubhouse.
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The captain strikes back…
Mythic leader now trotting…
Manuel stewing…
How did Manuel not get ejected there?
Haha imagine jeter actually taking a curtain call for a meaningless solo hr? Ortiz is pathetic.
“By leaving Swisher out there, he loses a ton of respect from his team.”
I don’t know about that, Matt. I think that they probably see things the way that I do. Right now, Swisher is healthy and available. Damon says he’s available, but do you really want a guy out in the OF who is dizzy? If Nady can’t throw, they will go out and get an OF. Then, Swisher can sit half of the time. But for now, he’s their man.
that one didn’t go to the warning track
I agree, Laura.
It’s not so much a case of chosing to play him despite things – its that he has no choice but to play him.
Ortiz took the curtain call because he knows any one he hits might be his last.
Way to expand the strike zone. God I hate these umps.
Solo homers are the only way we get ourselves back in games… Can’t we start an old-fashioned rally or something?
do the Yanks have enough pitching to finish this game?
Come on Dave. This is a defining spot for him. Pitch well and maybe Girardi will actually use the kid for a change
Old Fashioned Rally!!
HAH
You should know better by now…Our Beloved team abandoned that classic championship winning formula years ago for the glamorous and glitz of “The Solo Shot”
Robertson does have a nice delivery
This is random, but:
For those of you who don’t read Kim Jones’ blog (it’s actually pretty good, she has a lot of funny, interesting stories to tell about the players), she usually adds little tidbits about what the announcers eat in the booth, what the food is like in the press room, etc. A few days ago, she wrote something like “we had room service oatmeal in the hotel in the morning.” The next post, she had to deny that she meant her and Michael Kay and said that she talks about herself in the royal We. Yeah, okay.
They seem to save rallies for the ninth. Definitely they have gotten away from being patient 1-9. But it’s a few guys. Need to all get back on the same page. Hard when Livian is that bad, how many warning tracks where there tonight.
of course another walk
Another walk! On a batter he was ahead on.
trisha, you called a yankee win in the 7th inning last night. you called a boston swoon today, right? don’t quit your day job … ooops, you already did. he he he
oh, i forgot. we have to pitch, too.
dennis,
Thanks for asking, I am well – though theory has it that some awful cosmic retribution is on its way (for what, I cannot say).
I am traveling to Dallas next week, nothing else planned until later in the summer. My sister and her family are in the UK, soon to be en route to Scotland. I’m happy for them, that’s one of my favorite places.
I do have a few small wagers, including on this game. Maybe it was bad karma to go against Livan, he’s been a solid moneymaker later.
It’s probably also my fault that Halladay left the Jays’ game early.
Hope you’re well too. If you see some Round Top ice cream anywhere, please give it a try and let me know if it’s still any good.
Wow, if Halladay is hurt, TOR is in deep doodoo.
WHats the score?
Last night at the Riverdogs game, they had 60 mph winds, and the game was suspended because of rain, as they blew a 4-0 lead.
time to play mlb 2k9. one way or the other, the yankees are winning tonight.
Nice job on Wright
This Robertson who I wanted in the game last night.
LOL ! Good one Sonia !
MAAAAXIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
8 walks! Is Joe Kerrigan still around? I remember he was a consultant or something couple years back.. Dave Eiland hasn’t shown me anything in his tenure.. I also remember the days when he pitched and he wasn’t anything special!
2-0 Pens!
Penguins up 2-0
Just got in. The Yankee starters are killing the bullpen. This is the 3rd game in the last 4 that the starter was knocked out early.
Score of Yankee game?
Robertson’s fire…
Face of the crosstown rivals…
Swinging and missing…
Robertson sharp. Nice.
sonia -
YAWN!
Nice job Robertson
Runs, runs! We need runs!
girardi better use Robertson in more high leverage situations after tonight.. lets go offense!
Robertson should not be the one going down tommorow if they activate bruney….pena or berroa have to go
Anyone else think Rivera is going to pitch in this game regardless of the score? He hasn’t worked in a while and we’re going to run out of pitchers, assuming Hughes and maybe even Aceves are unavailable.
Good job DR.
Get to work yankees offense
All I want from Alex is a patient at bat and get on base to start this inning. Please don’t swing for the fences on this.
Wonder who goes tomorrow if Bruney is back. I thought Veras, but after tonight it could be Tomko.
“Frase” – your new in these parts aren’t you? Well your screename is new.
meanwhile, Utley is called out on a strike that was off the plate with the tying run on base.
Send Veras and Tomko back. Bring back Alby and activate Bruney. Both guys suck
Motorcycle Bike Weekend has landed here where I live.. Hundreds of thousands of Harleys, rice rockets and potential swine flu victims…lol Hard to crack jokes when the Yanks are playing like this.. I take this personal when the Yanks are terrible..
Momentum is only as good as the next day’s starting pitcher
Banuelos for the Riverdogs is pitching a great game. Seven innings, just 4 hits allowed, Dogs lead 5-2 over Rome.
Ok NM I see we got back a run.
what is OPPC?
Good news on Manny, after word of Garcia going on DL yet again
Think after today, we might be saying bye to Tomko after Bruney is activated.
How has Alby been doing btw
Hey Fran the original!
You’re lucky you weren’t here to see another Swisher special.
It feels like this game has already gone about 16 innings!
We aren’t cursed. Well, we are cursed with a horrible bullpen but that’s a different deal.
Mets have a good bullpen.
Feliciano kills lefties
Parnell is a hard throwing righty in the 8th
And of course K-Rod is lights out
This could be game over pretty soon.
Other Peoples Pu–y Club…j/k.. just be positive and you may get in.
Alby 1.74 era 10 innings 1 walk, 7 ks. The thing though again, it’s the minors, he has to throw strikes when he comes back.
We have no pitching after CC, that’s the problem.
Same story every year – we have to win shootouts.
If balls hit to the warning track were runs, we’d have about 10 by now.
If balls hit to the warning track were runs, we’d have about 10 by now.
Wow two straight nights of terrible umps behind the plate
Nick.
Glad all is well.
Geez, Sorry I brought up the word Karma. Seemed to spark debate. My bad I guess.
GB7. All is well?
Trisha, so I see. Another day and another Swisher miscue. But with Damon unable to start Girardi can’t bench Swisher.
Castillo made that close
And to think Beltran wanted to be a Yankee.
Yanks have thrown 63 more pitches and 0 walks…
Fran, no question.
Dennis, you know all one has to do to spark a debate here is to say “I disagree.” Anyway I wouldn’t worry about it. Karma will just get those who don’t believe in it!
How can you win if you have to score 6+ runs every night?
That’s an awful lot to ask of the offense.
Seriously great point. Mets 8 walks, Yankees none. How do they not get that????? Although Livian is clearly laying some fat pitches over not to give up the walk.
That was a pitch to hit.
“If balls hit to the warning track were runs, we’d have about 10 by now.”
Could it be that Livan’s fastball is too slow to help with the power?
Livan doesn’t walk anybody
That’s why he is able to eat innings.
dennis: no worries, and there is no legit debate, just various musings. Everyone is welcome to his or her beliefs.
Only 5 1/3 on the menu tonight? Livan is on a diet
Matsui has to be patient against a rookie pitcher. They could have a rally inning finally here. Matsui works himself on, Melky and Gardner should be only looking to drive line drives. Please oh please take advanatge of this inning
Gates — too often this team is getting shut out through the 5th and 6th innings with 2 hits. We all know they have the ability to come back late, they’ve proven that. But it would be nice to see some early magic too, take some pressure off the pitchers. It works both ways.
Sonia might be an obsessive stalker, but at least shes not also suffering MPD and therefore uses the same name each time, lol.
A catcher’s patience…
Manuel making a move…
Rally clouds gather…
Livian allowed the Yankees to try and hit homers rather than walk.
Joba let the guys walk, not giving the same shot for guys like Cora or Castillo who don’t have much pop. Definitely all on Joba there.
Hey sui its ya birthday
Walks killed the Yanks so far and ran up Joba’s pitch count. Walks always seem to come back and haunt you.
Rally clouds gather…
I like this
SUI!!!!!!!!!!
Can it be Matsui’s birthday everyday?
Nice shot.
Happy Birthday Hideki!!
HIDEKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Birfday Matsui
That’s why I still love Matsui , patient and had a plan up there AWESOME!!!!!!
Hip Hip… err Godzilla!!
happy birthday matsuiiiiiiiii! which by the way, how the heck are him and jeter the same age? lol
Happy Birthday Hideki!!!
Now THAT was a no doubter!
GODZILLA!!!!!
OPPC – you can’t stop us, you can only hope to contain us!
And what does Melky do, swing at the first pitch UUUUGGGGHHHH
Two runners on base…
Hero of the rising sun…
Brings back Yankee pride…
Oh, Hideki. You’re too kind. Giving us gifts on *YOUR* birthday? Pure class.
dont let the wind tunnel hit you in the ass on the way out!!
haha his ERA is “–”
Bobby B. loved that one!
ok – can we not give up a run now
Okay, let’s hold the lead!
You know Japan is going crazy.
Switzer can’t throw strikes in a debut and Melky and Gardner just gave him two easy outs. That’s what has changed lately as well. Everyone was patient for a few weeks. Now it’s just the handful of guys being patient again.
He has been very patient lately. I think Fenway did wonders for him. He was taking the ball the other way there, which he hadn’t done in a while.
Up to the bullpen now.
Hey, that was a good one, DID.
Nick.
I walk into the dog rescue (SPA) the same way I go to Houston to trade crude oil. It is what it is…
-dennis
Raul IBANEZ!!!!
and Philly ties it up
THANK YOU RYAN HOWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
AWWWW. Tie game bottom of the 9th
Can someone hold a lead?
Happy Birthday Matsui.
Ramon Ramirez blew the save for the Sox!!
Let’s close this one out and make up some ground.
Pitch to Matsui…
Happy Birthday Godzilla…
You wear Pinstripes proud…
OOOPS. I mean, Ryan HOWARD!!!
ok Robertson – a quick inning here…
Greg OPPC a gaggle of pollyanna kumbaya hawking chicks,that think they own the blog!
Huge inning for Dave Robertson. He can turn this over quickly and keep the lead. Please Dave continue to prove you belong.
Now the hard part, holding onto the slim lead.
That great bp. I mean HUNTER JONES you know BOWDEN. ARMS. where do they FIND these ARMS.
Well that’s not a good start to the inning.
Christ, but I hate Sheffield.
Now is NOT the time to un-rally Godzilla’s blast.
Sorry dennis,.. not trying to be unkind. Just rooting against the opposition.
Fran – naturally I dropped Sheff from my team…
Toronto has also given up the lead!
Who do you think will be called up from Scranton tomorrow before the game?
surprised sheff didn’t look at dj with a look…considering sheff had words to say when he talked that stupid smack about torre and black players and said derek wasn’t black or whatever. sorry sheff, but you’re an idiot! just saying…
unreal. take the lead, give up a lead-off double.
yankee baseball. it’s… something.
Coke time.
What we really want is for Philly to win in 16 innings
Trisha, I just thought of that!
dennis-costanza
June 12th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Nick.
Glad all is well.
Geez, Sorry I brought up the word Karma. Seemed to spark debate. My bad I guess.
GB7. All is well?
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what a cruel thing to ask after the last three games, Dennis. Twist that knife a little more.
Hey, seriously, doing just fine, Dennis. Thank you for asking. Hope all is going well with you and your lovely lady. As far as the games? Not sure what’s worse…getting blown out like in the first game or losing games like the last two. I’m so confused.
Boston tied
Toronto down 6-2
Tampa down 3-2
Baltimore down 6-2
Yanks need to represent the AL East tonight with a win. Cmon!
Sheffield on second…
Girardi moves his pieces…
It is in Coke’s hands…
Damn. Come on Coke. I know have a strong arm in the corners is big. But a question. Why is Melky in LF? It’s the shortest throw to the plate or generally the place you put your weakest arm I should say. The arm in CF has hurt us a few games now. And Swisher has been awful in RF and that is where you want the guy with an arm. If Melky is out there why isn’t he just patrolling CF. Potentially Sheff doesn’t try for second on that play
really going to drain the BP tonight – who’s pitching tomorrow? Can they make it deep?
bodhisattva
Let em play til August 6th
Can the Yankee bullpen get an out?!
::shakes head::
I don’t even have words. This team is aggravating.
Bring in Rivera!
I can’t believe how messed up this starting rotation is. In the last 4 games, 3 of our SP have failed to make it past the 4th inning. Joe’s hands are tied here – the pen is already bad and now they have to cover 4/5 innings in games. The Yankees are in real trouble….. and that’s without me even going into their offense which is not as good as you’d think.
this game is exhausting
Yanks are gonna need a lefty specialist. Coke isn’t getting it done.
Add that to the wish list Cash…
so what, we have 1 pitcher who goes more than 4 innings? wang, aj, joba…can cc pitch everyday?!!!
Oh no
Unreal. The worst bullpen in the majors comes through again.
We’re going to need a lot more runs to win this game.
Carl,
That’s better. Much MUCH better.
(regret no smoking devil icon).
Watch it Mo’ flatcutter. Karma will get you and your beligerent self.
Wait a second….
I thought “Lefty Specialist” meant he takes care of lefties as in GET THEM OUT
Or is it “Lefty Specialist” because he takes care of lefties as in BLOW THE GAME?
Pettitte. Wish it were Hughes!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that lead was short lived
Phil CHOKE!
Extras in Philly.
and that is why the Joba to the pen stuff will not die. Not because of what Joba does as a starter. It’s because we have NOTHING in the pen beyond Mo. Nothing. There is not one pitcher out there who can come in and do the job consistently. They are like a train of suckage, one carful of suck after another rollin’ down the track.
arite, ill take it :/
Yankees are going to need a lefty specialist? Isn’t that supposed to be Marte? Maybe we should see where Billy Traber is?
Another lefty-lefty matchup blows up in Girardi’s face.
Does he just not get it? Coke is not that great against LHB.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three, four, five times? You’re just an idiot.
To the only other hockey person on here:
Sid needs to pull a Willis Reed in the third.
Go Phillies!
Wish that Bruney was back tonight. He is the only one besides Mo that I trust in the pen.
Seriously, is there a reliever in the entire Yankee organization that can hold a lead?
Im watching the game myself bod. And I agree he needs to do that.
our bullpen s.u.c.k.s.
our bullpen s.u.c.k.s.
Top of the order coming up. They need to do some damage.
good play
i’d give up the run for the double play
at least it was a run for 2 outs…and the top of the line up up in the bottom of the 7th. though, enough with giving the runs back up already
Bruney and Marte coming back will be HUGE for this bullpen. They are missing both of their set up men now. When you can slot guys like Coke, Robertson, and Aceves back to the 5th/6th inning roles, the bullpen all of a sudden looks pretty good.
Bruney coming back tomorrow will be a huge boost to the team, plugging in our one real weakness- set up man. If he can stay healthy the team will become instantly MUCH better.
Good rotation, good lineup, and awful bullpen. If Bruney and Marte can come back and pitch well, you can argue that this team’s only weakness is 5th/6th inning relief.
Well, at least they didn’t give up the lead this time. Gotta get those runs back!
“Yankees are going to need a lefty specialist? Isn’t that supposed to be Marte? Maybe we should see where Billy Traber is?”
Casey Fossum is down on the farm. Then there’s Igawa!
Back to parity…
A young lefty shows his grit…
Hands held over hearts…
Yankees will really need to push to try and pry Huston Street free from the Rockies. He will cost and I am not convinced with his injury history and his sometime struggles that he is perfect, but he obviously was a decent closer, he’s young and potentially a piece you have for the next two years. Problem is everyone else wants him too. Can’t see how you wouldn’t have to give Colorado something pretty big
What a mess of a pitching staff right now, 8 walks 2 of those to the #9 hitter, can’t hold the lead, at least the game is tied
Marte had a setback heard it from Lorenz on the pregame.
Apparently it’s pretty bad because the infamous words Dr. James Andrews were mentioned.
Marte had a setback, seeing Dr. Andrews on Monday
Forget about him. Cashman needs to get another lefty
And Bruney has yet to prove he can stay healthy. Cash needs a couple of arms.
Matt, Marte is going to see Dr. Andrews on Monday. He is still having problems.
Halladay hurt?
Man, that’s just mean on the part of the cosmos.
The guy is an artist.
Swisher just get on base. I am feeling another Tex bomb or Arod. A 2 run spot may just be enough, although prefer 3 more runs as a cushion. Jeez, this is sad.
“Good rotation, good lineup, and awful bullpen. If Bruney and Marte can come back and pitch well, you can argue that this team’s only weakness is 5th/6th inning relief.”
I’ll argue the good rotation! Lately there isn’t one starter who can give you 7 innings besides CC. We have pitchers who are at 100 pitches by the 4th inning, if they haven’t been blasted out of the game before then!
Mets have a much better pen than us
I’ll take my chances with Feliciano/Parnell/Stokes over anyone we have.
This bullpen thanks to their starting pitchers, except CC, is constantly being overused. Except for Mo they are mediocre. Bruney coming back will help.
Are we serious???? Anyone who thinks the Mets pen is good obviously never watches them. They end up losing many more games than we do with that crew. And that is with K Rod being great.
7 runs should be enough to win a game.
It’s all about pitching.
Starters and bullpen need to do better. das it
How do we have a good rotation?
Is there anyone outside of CC who is consistent? Answer: No.
On paper, we SHOULD have an excellent rotation. But just like in years past, the rotation is a major weakness and we have to score a million runs every game.
Carl
June 12th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Im watching the game myself bod. And I agree he needs to do that.
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CBC reporting SId lacing up and taping his sticks…
I am not an admirer of high stakes hockey, I am a dead serious Penguins fan, so Sid MUST pull off the deux ex machina ending.
Sid is on the bench.
Go Guins.
Go Yanks.
our bullpen suck open wet a$$!
Tex swinging at a couple of ball fours. Just get on. We need about 12 more runs
Even if they win this thing, I will not be happy. Everything that is problematical about this team has happened tonight: bad SP, worse pen, all HRs…. Now Marte, who was diagnosed with tendonitis, is going to see Dr. Andrews. Interesting – how does that happen?
“7 runs should be enough to win a game.
It’s all about pitching.
Starters and bullpen need to do better. das it”
Bingo. Wasn’t this new team supposed to be built on pitching? Looks just like the 04-08 Yankees.
Time for an A-Bomb.
A Rod needs to hit one here
A-Rod’s time to blow or blow the game open…
I would love to see a shut out Bod. didn’t the pens win 20 years ago?
This is a game highlighting 2 bad pitching teams..
Some beliefs are valid: “Lot of game left tonight. I don’t see a 6-3 final score.”
“We have pitchers who are at 100 pitches by the 4th inning,”
maybe it’s time for a new concept in pitching.
10 starters who go 4 innings each- two a day
and then two closers
alex with his head up his ass
why is scoring on homeruns a problem? Only yankee fans think of hrs as a negative…
Joba was supposed to be our #5 starter. If you want to develop young pitching, you have to be able to live with growing pains.
However, as it stands, Joba has been our 2nd most consistent pitcher. We expect and frankly need more from him than we should.
Burnett is not doing his job, Andy wins games but looks toast 1\2 the time, Wang is a mess. Hughes is like Joba, another young pitcher.
It is basically CC and pray for rain. Just like last year it was Mussina and pray for rain. And in 06-07, Wang and pray for rain. We have one reliable pitcher.
Wow. Good Grief. What an awful job by A-Rod.
Alex come on 3 pitches Jesus.
Why, why, why does ARod always try to do too much w/ RISP?
nice Cano
lol Cano
Back to back horrible ABs.
WOW A-Rod really stinks during tight crucial situations…..
Good God Almighty, my kingdom for a hit with men in scoring position. This is ridiculous.
Oh come on. Cano is back to the old hacking away at the first pitch. What the hell. Two terrible at bats in a row after two good one.
Watching this game makes me think of two teams that have been eliminated from the postseason and who are just playing out the string. This has just been a poorly played game.
Just Robbie being Robbie.
this bullpen is a mess.
no easy answers.
i would love to get jenks or hoffman.
who pitches now?
Sticking Cano batting fifth has him back to overswinging and swining way too aggressively. He is reverting back to last years Cano approach at the plate again. Little patience. This is just a poor decision moving him up to fifth.
What a terrible game.
The Mets are depleted and are taking it to us. Not a good sign.
But we did score 7 runs, poor job by the pen.
yankee baseball! it’s… underwhelming!
Meet the Mets, meet the Mets, step right up & beat the Mets…………….. Let’s go!!!!!
Cano shows his usual patience
Cano shows his usual patience
Tarnished titan swings…
Victim of deception’s wile…
Swish and Tex left on…
high high high high high with coke
Let’s see how yanks get through the most important part of the game….they already wasted Joba in the first 4 innings when he once again couldn’t give any kind of length.
Thank God Veras isn’t in the bullpen.
how can a team score 7 and still look absolutely pathetic
Way to swing at the 1st pitch!
If this game goes extra innings we’re in trouble!
I don’t know why girardi insists on batting A-Rod and Cano BB… they are both horrible in BIG RBI situations…. look at the numbers….
All this praying for rain, at least that’s been working.
nice play
nice Jete
In an e-mail to 1050 ESPN New York, Henry said of Mark Teixeira’s response to his curse Tweet, “I thought it was very thoughtful.”
Henry added, “But seriously that’s all theatre. He is certainly one of the best players in the game. Tremendous hitter, great first baseman. A great sign for the Yankees. And he has a great sense of humor.”
Teixeira did not seem amused by the implication.
“Everybody knows the Yankees paid the most,” Teixeira said. “This is a business. It was a family decision and a business decision. They can have their opinions — that’s fine. I made the best decision for me, and it’s worked out great.”
Teixeira entered Friday night’s game with the Mets hitting .289 with 19 homers and 52 RBIs. Teixeira couldn’t comprehend why Henry decided to take a shot at him and described the idea of a curse as “silly.”
“You guys make that decision,” Teixeira said when describing his actions compared to Henry’s. “Whose reputation looks better?
“I met with 12 teams. If 11 owners want to take shots at me, that’s fine.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4255169
Show of hands….once and for all:
Who wants Joba in the pen and Hughes back in rotation???????
Too many hitters who struggle with RISP are on this team.
i’m telling you … jeter would make a great center fielder
what a shoe string catch!
the reason we have so many come back wins is because we cant hold a lead. we score, then give it right back. it’s what they do.
Everyone kills ARod for his lack of clutch hitting, but at least he occasionally gets one — like last night. Anyone remember the last time Cano got a big hit with men on base? I don’t. At any rate, I’d love to see Posada moved up to 5. I know they want to split up Matsui/Cano but ARod-Cano back to back is usually a killer in a big spot.
I love how pitchers point up to the sky as if no one else knows where the ball is. LOL!
Email Pete to put up a poll of who wants Joba to the pen if you think he belongs there….
“would love to get jenks or hoffman.”
Pray that the White Sox are out of it by early July and your wish might come true!!
toronto is F-ed… If they lose the only good thing they have going for themselves for any length of time.
Please don’t bring Mo into a non-save situation.
Please.
A captain takes charge…
Inauspicious start denied…
The great one stirring…
Um…what?
what the hell is girardi doing….rivera in 8th inning of a tie game???
this makes a lot of sense. There are 2 outs and no one on base.
Oh come on Rivera really???? So if the Yankees don’t win it early here, this will be a loss. There is no one freaking on.
Despite his having some miscues, I have to say that I really like Coke.
What is this? All this does is turn Beltran around to the left and smaller part of the park.
Mo. In a tie game. In the 8th.
If history serves, this has disaster written all over it. But I can’t blame Joe, because there really isn’t anyone else to go to.
Interesting move. I would have rather seen him turn around Beltran to the right side with Coke up there who is better against RHB, but I’m not terribly opposed. Beltran and Wright are the only hitters in that lineup you really fear, so bring in your best pitcher to shut them down and give the offense a chance to win it at home.
uh – Mo?
whacha doing here Girardi
“Despite his having some miscues, I have to say that I really like Coke.”
I like him too, but he rarely gets the first guy he faces. He is also not the lefty specialist we need. Lefty specialists actually get lefties out.
Coke points to the sky whether it’s an infield pop-up or a bomb to the upper deck. Judge Mo needs to take care of that once and for all.
Coke will have to point down toward the ground next time he induces a grounder…
RS & Philly going to bottom 11
I wouldn’t have done this move with that short RF porch.
I like the move.
we’ll see if Justin Masterson can hold it together against:
Werth
Howard
Ibanez
lets go Phils
everyone just keep making the jeter in the outfield jokes…he’s doing his best to prove everyone wrong this season
Indomitable…
Mariano Rivera…
Entering, fears not…
Anyone know a lot about Kontos. Is there potential for him in the pen at all this year?
What a squeeze job. That 2-1 pitch was right over the corner.
“Oh come on Rivera really???? So if the Yankees don’t win it early here, this will be a loss. ”
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its a big at bat. I think it’s a great move by Girardi.
Man a walk.
uh – not a walk, please!
walk Beltran to get to Wright
Cokie could have walked Beltran
That was RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE to Wright. WOW
so an “out” is what we need here…