Thanks a bunch, Luis Castillo
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 12, 2009 
Print This Post
| 
Email This Post
Advertisement
Sponsored by:
Search
Advertisement
Follow
Mobile
Read The LoHud Yankees Blog on the go by navigating to the blog on your smartphone or mobile device's browser. No apps or downloads are required.
LoHud TV
More Videos
Advertisement
Place an ad
Call (914) 694-3581
Monthly Archives
- February 2012
- January 2012
- December 2011
- November 2011
- October 2011
- September 2011
- August 2011
- July 2011
- June 2011
- May 2011
- April 2011
- March 2011
- February 2011
- January 2011
- December 2010
- November 2010
- October 2010
- September 2010
- August 2010
- July 2010
- June 2010
- May 2010
- April 2010
- March 2010
- February 2010
- January 2010
- December 2009
- November 2009
- October 2009
- September 2009
- August 2009
- July 2009
- June 2009
- May 2009
- April 2009
- March 2009
- January 2007 - Part 1
- December 2006
- November 2006
- October 2006
- September 2006
- August 2006
- July 2006
- June 2006
- May 2006
- April 2006
- March 2006
- February 2006
That’s exactly what it was! A gift!
Arod is bigger than baseball
GOD IS A YANKEE FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(He was just on vacay these past three days…)
Yippee!!!!
wow
And we will take it.
Just when you think baseball can’t get any more entertaining, something like this happens…
A gold-glove 2nd basemen gives up a game by dropping a ball a little leaguer could have caught… Alex Rodriguez, media lightning bolt, chokes in the spotlight, but comes up a hero anyway.
You just can’t write this stuff.
I was so pissed that Arod popped up a FB right down the middle I turned the TV off. So I didn’t see it live.
Odd win.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Your gift-wrap says it all!
To quote you a little earlier, “Wow, walking Tex to get to A-Rod. Shows you what they think of him. What a crazy game.”
& THAT wasn’t half as crazy as what followed lol.
LOL Peter. Never seen an error off before.
PRAISE GOD!
PRAISE HIM!!
what makes the play worse- he throws the ball to 2nd base…LOL
An ugly win.
Raul Ibanez hit by Bard, 99 mph
I’m still laughing over that play.
In all my years I can’t remember the Yankees with men on 1st and 2nd, two down, win on a flubbed pop-up. Can anyone remember a luckier win??
arod did Choke but this time the outcome is good
nice. ill take the W
That is just unbelievable….Good thing it was Jeter and Tex running on bases. Great job by Tex running hard on a pop up in the infield if not he never would of scored. If it was Cano he would be jogging around the bases, and the game would still be tied or he would of been out at the plate. I feel bad for Mo he should know at this point he is a shell of what he used to be.
Just watched the replay. Tex is amazing — what a true ballplayer for sprinting on that meek pop up.
(Swish would have been getting ready to tag up and try for second.)
If I ever saw a game where both teams should have lost, this was it. It was a win but it was still garbage and nothing to be proud of.
castillo owed us for all the walks we gave him today.
I knew we would win!
That was no gift – Texiera busting it around the bases created a gale force wind!
RAB said it best: Teixeira ture hero of the game for running hard on a routine pop up.
AJ Burnett is on his way to the Mets lockeroom…whipped cream pie in hand, in search of Luis Castillo
Someone give that man a pie
I just saw the highlight of the dropped pop-up.
You could see Castillo was in trouble when he started moving sideways – that’s never a good sign.
ARod needed that cosmic kindness.
CONGRATULATIONS PITTSBURGH PENGUINS, the 2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
Breaking news… SNY Play by play man Gary Cohen has just hanged himself… lol
If anyone watched Krod when the ball was popped up he did a fist pump. He was getting ready for his little party on the mound. Then he realized he lost..That was really funny…
one word.
“Amazin’”
booya!
What a terrible win. (huh?)
Did Castillo not know there was two outs? It’s bad enough to make a physical error but to pile a mental error on top of it is unacceptable.
“LOL Peter. Never seen an error off before.”
Yes you have. Bill Buckner.
Now we know why the Mutts can’t unload Castillo.
i mean, two runs scored on an error…seems about fair if you think about the “gift” runs walked in and the runs scored in the hideous Swisher/Cano inning…lot’s of gift runs in this game
Idiot Michael Kay thinks that Joba shouldn’t have shaken off Posada because Posada might be in the Baseball Hall of Fame one day. Does anybody here seriously believe that? What a moron….
Mark gets the brand new WWE belt. He deserves it.
some of the funniest posts of the year, but Zooboy wins with his quip about Swish running back to first to tag up w/two outs…
And Pete, good jpeg hunting on deadline. A gift win it truly is.
On another note, Joba/Georgy (no chemistry whatsoever)
Please let Cisco catch him next time.
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than clutch.
A single may have only gotten Tex to 3rd.
Hey, Coach, in line with your comment that AJ was looking for Castillo to give him the pie, he should also be the recipient of that championship belt!
“You could see Castillo was in trouble when he started moving sideways – that’s never a good sign.”
I reached for the remote and as I went to turn it off saw Castillo drifting left. I decided that this meant there was a chance of him dropping it and left the TV on. Thank God.
Also, the brilliance of lobbing the ball to second from his knees can’t be understated.
You know who really deserves the blame for that loss? Ryan Church. If you watch the replay you can see him jogging off to the dugout in the background while Castillo is struggling with the popup. Outfielders are trained to call off infielders on any ball they can get to. Church had a ton of time to get under that ball and the outfielder always has a better angle on a high pop up like that.
I wonder how Sterling called that? I can just imagine the confusion
Ugly win = win
“Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than clutch.
A single may have only gotten Tex to 3rd.”
True. Plus some are ripping Alex for popping up. He got the bat on the ball and didn’t strike out. That has to count for something.
What a garbage win
How can anyone feel good about the team after what they saw tonight? Joba goes 4 innings, bullpen is garbage, MO gets hit again, they made another error etc.
C’mon, how was anyone excited to win this game?
The wind kind of took that ball away from Castillo. I think it was really Babe Ruth who was looking down on the Yankees and wants to bring back new curses for the opposing teams.
Ugly win = win = a loss against a good team = every game in the postseason.
Brandon,
The only person who Posada should catch is Andy.
Posada did Joba no favors at all today. He frustrated Joba more than anything else.
Ugly win = win = a loss against a good team = every game in the postseason = getting bounced early in the postseason again (and again and again)
You can’t out-choke the Mets… not even A-Rod! When he dropped the ball I yelled an obscenity and woke half the house up, but I didn’t care. =)
GMAB – who cares how they win…they just need to win
if you think there are style points for wins you are watching the wrong sport
Ugly win = win = a loss against a good team = every game in the postseason = CONTINUING to get bounced early in the postseason again (and again and again)
And that is exactly why I do not understand why players today do not use two hands to catch the ball.
Three decades ago, a player would be fined for catching a ball with one hand.
This game ended at 11
I thought only Yankees/Sox regulation games take 4 hours.
Pepitone….I remember everytime I one-handed catches, and to this day I still can hear, The Good Lord gave you 2 hands, use them……..It couldn’t happen to a finer hump, K-Rod, you’re still a puke….
Ugly win – I really can’t find any positives in tonight.
Oh, and maybe the Phils got screwed out of a HR call, but they still did nothing after that.
Ghost – very good point.
Trevor – we’ll worry about that tomorrow. can we celebrate a game when the breaks actually went our way?
“C’mon, how was anyone excited to win this game?”
You are joking, right? A win is a win. Would you rather we lost the game? Should the Yankees go to MLB and tell them that they don’t want the win because it wasn’t pretty? Get real.
The only person Posada should catch is his young son….
YES Booth Report with Lorenz, Kay, Cone, and Leiter:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6130032077dced9b/
That’s why they are the Mets
If Posada’s a HOF catcher (he’s border line) it’s not because he’s Johnny Bench behind the plate. He has a great bat for a catcher.
I have no problem Joba shaking him off.
Boo Hoo Yankees win the game lets complain about it
OT: Ivan Nova vs AA Mets tonight
8.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 K’s
solid strike to ball ratio.
If you’re excited by tonight’s game, you are satisfied with mediocrity and the virtual guarantee that you’re rooting for a team with a huge payroll that will CONTINUE to get bounced early in the postseason again and again and again. You may be excited by that. I can’t be.
Posada did Joba no favors at all today. He frustrated Joba more than anything else.
===============
did you notice that a couple of times when Joba was shaking him off he would give the exact same sign? Was this some kind of battle of wills? At what point does Girardi step in and mediate? Did he not consider it a problem or was he just oblivious to it?
Arod yelled HA! lol Go Yanks!
I still do not get Joe letting Brett hit and then PH Damon for Swisher. He’s leaking brains every day……..
Who said there’s no mystique at the new house???? Looks like the Ghosts made it across the street!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just listened to Sterling’s call with my MLB TV supscription, pure comedy. He had no idea what to do. He went from dejection to confusion to euphoria, stinkin hilarious.
and now that i look @ the replay, church left castillo to DRY out there. he absolutely should have come in and made that catch. never can take this game for granted.
ok, Jay – go root for another team…plenty of fans around here
Sox wins
Rays win
All this fluke win does is keep us from losing more ground.
June 12th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
“The only person Posada should catch is his young son”
Dumbest line of the night.
“Brandon,
The only person who Posada should catch is Andy.
Posada did Joba no favors at all today. He frustrated Joba more than anything else.”
They just don’t have any chem together, he calls a game to what he wouldn’t want to see as a batter and Joba wants his pitch. It was too shaky a tandem, Joba released 1 R through all that, so that just shows even when not in sync how great he may be.
I was also a champion of Girardi for manager (and remain thrilled that Torre is gone). But I’ve become convinced that I was wrong about Girardi. He’s shown again and again that he’s just as clueless as Torre — sometimes in the same ways, sometimes in different ways.
bruney was supposed to go to Trenton – might be in the bronx tomorrow instead…
This team continues to play terrible baseball… they can mask it against these lesser teams (and they almost didn’t today) but this is why the Sux swept us
It’s ok, they can still win most of their games against average competition. But you saw tonight why we got swept in Boston.
One handed catches started when they started making gloves the size of a hai alai cesta.
“I still do not get Joe letting Brett hit and then PH Damon for Swisher. He’s leaking brains every day……..”
That was my beef, but remember king of DPs was next, so….eh
Joe, sheesh. They were going to send Bruney to Trenton (presumably because they want to be extra careful with him after the last time) and now they may not because their pen is in shambles? I don’t care about the latter – Brian’s health comes first.
Happy that we won (especially since my sis is a Mets fan) but boy do the Yanks have issues. I’m not going to go over the litany of problems that everyone has mentioned but the fact that we don’t even have a solid #2 pitcher after spending all this money is just sickening.
If you think that “The only person Posada should catch is his young son” is the dumbest line of the night, you have a VERY different view of Posada’s catching skills than I do — and, more importantly, than everybody on the Yankee pitching staff does aside from Pettitte. And I suspect that Pettitte knows it, too — just that he’s being loyal to a longtime friend and teammate.
I am still surprised every time someone in here actually thinks they know more about the team and how to manage the game than the manager – you realize this is not your job for a reason, right?
“Who said there’s no mystique at the new house???? Looks like the Ghosts made it across the street!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
They have a wierd sense of humor, Castillo is shaken in his lockerroom got to feel a bit bad for him there.
you know what, posada doesn’t call the greatest game ever, but chamberlain is a freaking kid who really isn”t the smartest player i’ve ever seen.
he needs to execute what posada puts down.
girardi needs to tell joba posada is in charge.
it’s as simple as that.
if he doesn’t want to throw the pitch he can sit his ass on the bench.
Will you be able to post Girardi’s post game audio as well?
Thanks
Exactly right, Sid. You saw tonight EXACTLY why we got swept in Boston — and why we get bounced out of the postseason in the first round again and again and again….
“All this fluke win does is keep us from losing more ground.”
Sounds good to me.
Swisher was 1-11 against K-Rod.
He probably figured Gardner could beat out an infield hit or something. Very rarely will Gardner get pinch hit for, for that reason.
GB7, nice line on Nova
Ivan Nova vs AA Mets tonight
8.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 K’s
Castillo wears the belt tonight.
Chamberlain doesn’t know the hitters well enough or pitch well enough to ignore the pitches called. Let him get 10 ML wins before starting that crap.
Jay might want to submit his resume to steinbrenner/cashman
According to MLBTR:
“According to Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the Pirates agreed to terms with their first round pick, Tony Sanchez, on a signing bonus of about $2.5MM. The fourth overall selection caught during his career at Boston College. The Pirates agreed to choose Sanchez before Tuesday’s draft began.
He will report to extended Spring Training before beginning to play at Class A West Virginia.”
SJ44- congrats to your nephew. Don’t spend it all in one place.
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61300486ef4d9868/
Jay is like the most miserable person on the earth or something always negative.
Look, no one here is saying that the Yankees don’t have issues. They most certainly do. This was not a pretty game. It was a frustrating, I’m going to pull my eyes out with my hands kinda game. But we came out on the winning side. That is something to be grateful for. That is something to be happy about – tonight. We can worry about the bullpen, Joba’s command and the injuries tomorrow. They will be there waiting for us … and them.
“I am still surprised every time someone in here actually thinks they know more about the team and how to manage the game than the manager – you realize this is not your job for a reason, right?”
Definitely know why it’s not mine. That’s never been a problem. My problem is I can’t figure out why it’s Girardi’s.
Brandon —-> Brandon 4 Cena 0
June 12th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
GB7, nice line on Nova
Ivan Nova vs AA Mets tonight
8.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 K’s
————————————————————
Outstanding numbers, but, I’m more impressed with 18 year old Banuelos’ numbers tonight and over the course of the season.
You da man Pel! (or woman i suppose)
Falling, under it…
Diverted by a ghost’s breath…
Improbable win…
Stop blaming Posada for Joba”s poor performance. Joba threw 100 pitches, walked 5 and hit 2 batters. He was bad tonight.
Castillo may have dropped that ball, but who put Tex on base? K-Rod bears some responsibility as well. He didn’t pitch a 1-2-3 inning either. Runners can’t score the winning run if they aren’t on base.
Girardi’s main objective this year was to loosen up the team and gain the respect of the clubhouse
He has done that in a big way, and the players have credited it for him all year numerous times.
His in-game moves will improve as he gains experience. He conquered the biggest challenge— get the locker room in his favor.
“Jay is like the most miserable person on the earth or something always negative.”
——–
no chance in hell.
Rachel blows him away in the misery department.
Actually, there are many people on here who would like to take that title.
Who else other than Posada has Chamberlain ever shaken off like that? I’d wager NOBODY! And there’s a reason why. It’s because Posada is absolutely AWFUL when it comes to calling a game — in addition to being awful at most of the fundamentals of being a catcher. That ought to be obvious just from watching Molina talk about the fundamentals on the Yankees’ show for kids where he talks about the fundamentals. He’s absolutely awful.
And he’s ancient for a catcher to boot. That’s not his fault. It’s the fault of the idiot ownership that paid an ancient catcher a king’s ransom. You notice that Boston wasn’t that stupid. They VERY rarely overpay ANYBODY. We very rarely DON’T overpay anybody.
A picture worth 2 words… “Thanks Pete”… funny stuff…see ya tomorrow.
Ugly, pretty, boring, exciting. I don’t care
A win is a win.
Take this one and say good-night
randy and GB – exactly.
Rodriguez popped the ball up, but, it was really hit high and appeared to be twisting to the right. It may seem like an easy thing, but, try it sometime. Most people would be staggering like drunken sailors (Army personnel never get drunk).
Jeter’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/613005621ab407be/
A Rod = clutch. Tonight ended the debate.
Why are Tomko and Veras on the team?
“Sox wins
Rays win
All this fluke win does is keep us from losing more ground.”
——–
Uh, I think that’s how it works, yes.
And “the fluke” also keeps them with the 3rd best record in the league and in a playoff spot.
good thing swisher wasn’t on first with that pop up. he might have tagged up
i have a hunch the next kangaroo court is going to be very expensive for swisher.
Whether he did it quasi-intentionally or not KRod put the winning run on base through a walk.
He walks 3.6/9. He does not have good command or control.
Castillo was inexcusable but KRod walks a lot of guys and that sets the context for these mistakes to kill.
Awful, mistake filled baseball by the mets.
And at the same time Jeter and Tex played perfect fundamental ball.
That was the difference in the 9th.
Tex being all self-depricating
p.s. Rays are in 4th place.
You should be tracking the Bluejays too.
“Outstanding numbers, but, I’m more impressed with 18 year old Banuelos’ numbers tonight and over the course of the season.”
7.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K’s
what an impressive young man, a LH fireballer in the making, a throw in, in the Aceves deal.
Randy I, I’m glad you see this also…..I know that CB & GB picked up on this as well as you & I…..I just cannot understand how Giradi doesn’t put his foot down….It seems Joba has fallen in love with his slider……When he does get into a groove he never shakes off the sign….Somebody, and maybe it should be Jorge, Molina & Tony Pena lean on him about the bs…..
Tomorrow the Mutts will be saying that A-Rod yelled HA! Which is very bush league.
“Whether he did it quasi-intentionally or not KRod put the winning run on base through a walk.”
———
Jete came up with a huge base hit. If he doesn’t get that hit, Tex never even comes to the plate.
you know what, posada doesn’t call the greatest game ever, but chamberlain is a freaking kid who really isn’‘t the smartest player i’ve ever seen.
he needs to execute what posada puts down.
girardi needs to tell joba posada is in charge.
it’s as simple as that.
if he doesn’t want to throw the pitch he can sit his ass on the bench.
I totally agree. Instead of shaking him off why not try pitching what is put down and see how that works.
Rachel and Jay are realists. This WAS a fluke win. Let’s not make this more than it is.
We played like this in Boston and got swept. We play like this tomorrow, we will likely lose.
The “crisp” brand of baseball we played during the win streak is gone.
Roy Halladay is hurt
“You should be tracking the Bluejays too.”
Jays may become obsolete if Halladay’s groin injury is bad enough.
Teixeira’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61300627d8b5af71/
randy,
i agree with you on joba shaking the catcher off to much. never understood it or liked it.
He falls in love with his slider.
that said I do wonder if this season Joba can just tell that his fastball command is not going to be there and shies away from throwing the pitch.
that’s the sense i get. he knows if he can command his fastball. if he can’t he resorts to inordinate numbers of breaking balls and that’s the tension with the catcher.
“ood thing swisher wasn’t on first with that pop up. he might have tagged up ”
——
LOL
actually, that’s not even funny!!
rishi – I said this earlier today, everyday Tex does something to make me like him more and more. He and Jeter won that game. Everyone on that team should take that lesson home.
I’m not always negative. We have an awesome pitching staff. I love Texeira. I like what Cashman has tried to do with this team over the past year or two. I love the signings/trades the past year or two (other than Marte). I love what they’re doing in the draft and the international signings.
It’s just that there’s still a lot of mediocrity on the Yankees — most of it left over from very bad decisions in earlier years and the fact that their archrival, Boston, is doing almost everything right, and being the second best team in baseball (when the first best team is Boston) is definitely failure around here (just like it would be for Boston if they were the second best and we were the best).
That’s not being negative. That’s just calling a spade a spade. In my opinion, to do otherwise would be polyannish.
Yankees are the king of new york and the mets are the error of new york!
Steve Somers coming up on 660!
Has Steve Sommers come on yet?
I want to hear WFAN tonight
Laura
This loss is on Castillo. He dropped the ball and then threw to 2nd base.
Closers close many games with runners on base.
He put Tex on but who would you rather pitch to, Tex or Alex?
# randy l. June 12th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
good thing swisher wasn’t on first with that pop up. he might have tagged up
i have a hunch the next kangaroo court is going to be very expensive for swisher.
***********
The first one was very expensive for him.
CB, I think K-Rod relies on his lack of command quite a bit to create his success. Effectively wild.
“Stop blaming Posada for Joba”s poor performance. Joba threw 100 pitches, walked 5 and hit 2 batters. He was bad tonight.”
This isn’t the first or second start he and Joba aren’t in sync, no offense but it should be addressed, his horrible performances are linked usually when Georgy is catching, it’s not ignoreable.
“He falls in love with his slider.”
——–
I agree, but in Joba’s defense, he was striking out many guys with his slider in his last start.
I think Joba and Posada need to talk more in between innings so Posada can get a feel for which pitches Joba is “feeling” that night.
I can’t imagine they are communicating enough or effectively enough with the way they call different pitches.
And I’m not miserable at all. But I would be miserable if I cared much whether this team won or lost (like I used to) and suffered every loss with a lot of pain despite seeing one stupidity after another. Now their mediocrity doesn’t bother me at all.
But it should bother you if you’re really a Yankee fan and want them to win.
On the other hand, if you’re a Yankee hater — like Selig and most of the rest of the world — it should make you very, very happy for the status quo to continue.
kangaroo court is gonna cost Swish alot of scratch.
“He put Tex on but who would you rather pitch to, Tex or Alex?”
——–
tough call, simply because you generally never put the tying run on base like that (especially to face a formidable hitter, despite ARods recent struggles)
even though this is a great win Arod did pop up and in the past 2 weeks teams r begining to pitch around tex to pitch to arod in a big spot
Yanks vs Mets meant nothing. Neither team is good enough to make the playoffs.
The Boston vs Philly series is the one to watch. And Boston looks REALLY good. That bullpen is built the way you are supposed to do it. There is depth and dominance. How does Cashman keep his job?
“Has Steve Sommers come on yet?
I want to hear WFAN tonight”
Me too.
If Joba goes 6 innings, 2 runs and the bullpen throws up 0s… Joe looks like a genius.
He looks pretty bad when we get 4 innings or less from a starter 3 out of 4 nights, on top of having no bullpen.
Hoch twitter:
NYY announce RHP Brian Bruney will, indeed, pitch for Trenton tomorrow.
“The only person who Posada should catch is Andy.
Posada did Joba no favors at all today. He frustrated Joba more than anything else.”
Your a moron. Joba had no command. Maybe instead of shaking off your veteran catcher on every call, he should listen to him. But, of course what would Jorge know about this game? He’s only been here since the 90s. I guess Joba knows it all.
Also, Heyman’s a doofus…
“• Following the trade of popular star Nate McLouth to the Braves, Pirates GM Neal Huntington sent a letter of explanation to fans. But according to scouts, he should really be apologizing for selecting Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez with the fourth pick overall in this week’s draft. Sanchez is a solid player and good “catch and throw guy” but most scouts agree he’s not a top five pick. Perhaps the Pirates were traumatized by their soap opera-esque signing of Pedro Alvarez last year.”
“I am still surprised every time someone in here actually thinks they know more about the team and how to manage the game than the manager – you realize this is not your job for a reason, right?”
Best quote of the night…..
The big story tonight is Rivera again looking lost and helpless out there.
The question could also be what other pitchers shake off Posada as much as Joba? 2 pig headed bulldogs who need to find a happy place is all it is.
Posada is often right on the pitch calling. Joba wants to throw too many sliders such as when he walked the no. 8 hitter, hitting .212, with no homeruns on a 3-2 slider. That’s what started the 43 pitch inning. If I am hitting and Joba shakes off a pitch, I would know 99 out of a 100 a slider is coming.
Just when everyone was down with the Boston sweep, here come the Mets…
bryanhoch: RT @John_W_Henry: Hope I didn’t hurt Mark’s feelings!
Is this guy an a__ or what?
This is a forum, BBFan. You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine. Chill out.
Sorry CC…
Joba needs Cisco more than you do. Burnett probably does too.
Cage match for sole possession of the personal catcher.
You’re a real winner, Jay!
Joba has 5 no decsions in his last six starts.
Thanks, BBFan
Bench Swisher, w/ all due respect to SJ’s nephew, he’s not a top 5 pick player, Top 10-15 yes, 5 ? they passed on Matt Weiters to draft Sanchez the next season ? w/ all the top hitting prospects still on the board, not smart.
I would think it’s safe to say that Posada has a lot more familiarity with hitters than Joba. Joba isn’t good enough yet to be disregarding his catcher.
How about we just DFA Jorge, or trade him for some baseballs and use Cervelli instead.
new post…
On another subject, only because a couple of idiots were yammering about Cano’s “error). That’s a perfect example and a reason for a “team error”. The ball is on target (or a tad off line) but right at the catcher and the throw hits the runner sliding in. The real error was on Swisher’s blown catch on Beltran.
Chamberlain’s talking about having it easy the first two innings is BS. He might have gotten the outs, but in the first two innings, he was 18 strikes and 19 balls He was lucky to get them swinging on the full counts.
BBfan is just a brown-nosing shill for anything Yankees. His opinion is more ridiculous than the pessimists out there.
He and Trisha ought to get a room.
I’m not a winner and I’m not a loser. I’m just a fan frustrated by the mediocrity of a team that I want to root for while their archrival does almost everything right. And I want to see that mediocrity corrected so I can see the team I want to root for succeed against their archrival instead of continue to get beaten again and again like a cheap mule.
“He put Tex on but who would you rather pitch to, Tex or Alex?”
Both are dangerous. It may seem like Alex doesn’t come through in the clutch, but the stats prove that he actually does. That being said, with his bad hip, I’d pitch to Alex and walk Tex.
Steve Somers now
I knew it wouldn’t take long for someone to call out Posada.
Mo’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61300799dbb242b3/
bryanhoch: RT @John_W_Henry: Hope I didn’t hurt Mark’s feelings!
Is this guy an a__ or what?
************************************
Hell yeah. He needs to grow the hell up and stop “tweeting” his sour grapes.
Thats the kind of behavior that you’d expect from high school girls. Seriously.
Joba’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6130080227aefccd/
Well your great attitude should get it done, Jay…thanks for sharing it with everyone. You’re a pleasure to read.
new post
“Today, my baseball team was one out away from winning a huge game against our crosstown rivals. With runners at first and second with two outs, the batter hit a pop up right to me. I then dropped the ball and threw to the wrong base, allowing a runner to score from first base on an infield pop up to win the game. FML.”
I’m not a winner and I’m not a loser. I’m just a fan frustrated by the mediocrity of a team that I want to root for while their archrival does almost everything right. And I want to see that mediocrity corrected so I can see the team I want to root for succeed against their archrival instead of continue to get beaten again and again like a cheap mule.
************************************
Ahh, so this is what happens when someone lets the Red Sox dictate their Yankee fandom? I always wondered what that would sound like, lol.
Its not pretty.
“I think Joba and Posada need to talk more in between innings so Posada can get a feel for which pitches Joba is “feeling” that night.”
Maybe yes and maybe no. The question is whether or not Joba is doing a good job of calling his own game?
I can’t say that he is.
Given that is it a good thing that he’s constantly shaking off the catcher?
Would it be better if posada just gave in to what Joba wanted.
Tons of people said that joba was nibbling. Posada may feel that way and is trying to force joba out of this bad habit.
Joba had a lot of trouble after he got 2 strikes on guys. Why? Part of the reason is that he’s becomes mind boggling repetative with 2 strikes. As a hitter why would you not sit on a slider. He throws it over and over and over.
And too often he throws his slider as a waste pitch that hitters might have swung at when he first came up but don’t swing at anymore way too often.
Joba needs to focus on establishing his fastball early in games and needs to use his terrific change up and curve more often.
His change up is sick and he doesn’t use it enough.
So if Posada is trying to get him out of these bad habits then good for him.
GB7 – You know, I don’t put much stock on those interviews. We have no idea of what is spoken once the mikes are off, between Joba, Jorge (notice during the game that Joba was talking to Molina, while Posada was down the bench?), Joe and Dave Eiland. If there’s conflict between Joba and the veteran catcher, I bet baseball lifers Joe and Eiland set him straight, and fast. Doesn’t mean Posada is right all the time, but he knows more about setting up hitters than the grasshopper.
Whatever BS was going on between Jorge and Joba needs to be worked out. Posada calls the game, deal with it Joba.
“Who else other than Posada has Chamberlain ever shaken off like that? I’d wager NOBODY! And there’s a reason why. It’s because Posada is absolutely AWFUL when it comes to calling a game — in addition to being awful at most of the fundamentals of being a catcher.”
jay-
i’ve caught guys who have started mlb all star games and i’ve been taught how to catch from some very good mlb catchers.my opinion is that posada isn’t the best at calling pitches i’ve ever seem , but he isn’t bad.
joba on the other hand doesn’t have a clue on how to call a major league game.
no clue at all. he’s using up all kinds of energy thinking instead of executing.
he’s screwing up the routine of every fielder out there by delaying the pitch.
the pitcher is not in charge of the game. the manager is. girardi can tell either the catcher or the pitcher who’s in charge.
if i were girardi, i’d make it clear to joba that posada is in charge.
i’d be surprised after tonight if there isn’t a three way meeting, and i don’t think it’s joba who’s going to be doing the talking.
lol at Mets fans.
Go Jorge!
hehehe,
steve somers said
if you’re AJ Burnett you have to throw that cream pie in Castillos face.
“This isn’t the first or second start he and Joba aren’t in sync, no offense but it should be addressed, his horrible performances are linked usually when Georgy is catching, it’s not ignoreable.”
Joba’s two longest and best starts of the year were caught by Jorge. So I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
Wow,
Again, you’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine Instead of engaging in nasty, snide comments (which I won’t stoop to responding to in kind) might I suggest that you respond with facts and logic. In the absence of facts and logic, I have to respectfully suggest that you’re engaging in gutter behavior. That’s your right. But it’s neither very impressive nor very persuasive, and I honestly don’t think it reflects very well on you.
My opinion is my opinion. Nowhere have I said that I think my opinion is worth any more than yours. It’s just my opinion. If you want to insult me, go ahead. I won’t play that game by insulting you back.
And I welcome you responding with logic.
I just don’t think the Yankees have been made better by overpaying their players after they get old in long-term contracts and overpaying everybody else for that matter. And I don’t want to see them do that with Jeter and Damon. And if you want them to win in the future, you shouldn’t either. Do you really think we’re a better team for having A-Rod at $30 million per until he’s eligible for Social Security? I don’t.
Do you really think we’re executing as well as the Red Sox? I don’t.
Do you really think we’ve been making baseball decisions as intelligently as the Red Sox? I don’t.
Do you really think Girardi is making good enough decisions? I don’t.
Do you think it’s some weird anomoly that most of the Yankee pitchers don’t want Posada to be their catcher — despite his huge bat? I don’t.
Do you think it’s a coincidence that it’s been so long since we’ve won a single postseason series? I don’t.
Do you think we can win against Boston or any good team in the postseason unless some major changes are made? I don’t.
Just my opinion….
Randy l.,
You have far more experience than me. I have none. But let’s assume you’re right — as you probably are. In that case, isn’t it Girardi’s place to tell Joba that? — in which case it gets right back to more stupidity on the part of this team that we both want to see win.
Celebrate now,but how will pitching be next game.
Posada could be right about every pitch he calls for Joba. And it wouldn’t matter. If Joba has no confidence in Jorge – after working with him for parts of three seasons now – pitching to Jorge is not going to get Joba to where the Yanks need him to be. He should pitch to Molina, another experienced catcher. The bottom line is to get Joba where he needs to be. If he and Posada don’t gel by now they probably never will.
Your team’s chemistry changed when Jorge came back.Errors started each game thereafter,after 18 record breaking games,why? He calls a bad pitch,the pitcher throws it,and the fielders pay for it.
Jay -
You make excellent points, well thought out, well stated, and there is little I would disagree with, but there are a number of posters on this site who simply cannot countenance criticism of the Yankees. It’s some kind of psychological thing. Most of them are probably 20 – somethings who have little or no appreciation of Yankee history. They actually think mediocrity in this franchise is ok.
I don’t, and you don’t, let the children believe in their fairy tales, most of them are harmless.
Say what you want about Brian Cashman, but he never was dumb enough to trade for and then re-sign Luis Castillo to a long term deal.
Jay and Pepitone:
Maybe you can go meet up here, have your makeout session, and jump off together.
Thanks!
http://htmlhelp.com/~liam/Onta.....Bridge.jpg
And those Accu-Weather dorks can keep waving around their useless study claiming the wind isn’t any different at the new stadium. That ball was up there for a long time and the RF jet stream seemed to keep drifting it out a bit.
Just got back from the game. Absolute pandemonium amid shell-shocked Mets fans who were giving Yanks fans the business all night. Derisive chants of “LET’S GO METS” and “SECOND-RATE” exiting the Stadium. Disgust followed by absolute bedlam in my section as complete strangers hugged and high-fived, and some girl in a Jeter shirt grabbed my bottom. So an excellent evening all ’round.
PEPITONE, that’s because you allow women to set the tone on a baseball blog.They bring a catty element to the blog,and have turned the guys in to girly men.
“Jay and Pepitone:
Maybe you can go meet up here, have your makeout session, and jump off together.
Thanks!”
I agree
Despite what some may want to believe, this team is good. Sure the won tonight was the luckiest I’ve ever seen, but they still managed to get the winning run on first base with two outs against krod. Last year they’d go down 123. They don’t quit, and despite arod’s nonhit, jet and tex still put them in a position to win. Maybe they can’t beat boston but they can beat anyone else right now.
Was the camera angle skewed, or did Posada set up way outside at 2-2 on Beltran (I believe) with the bases loaded and Joba seemingly unable to hit the broad side of a barn? I don’t think it’s ever swift to go to 3-2 with the bases full if you can avoid it, and especially when your pitcher has command issues. I think Cervelli is a far better receiver than Posada right now.
As far as Posada being borderline hof, no way. He ranks far below both Thurman and Elston, neither of whom made it.
I feel sooo sorry for Castillo, really I do!
Fans: This is one of the best posts on Joba/Jorge.
Ed H.
June 13th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Posada could be right about every pitch he calls for Joba. And it wouldn’t matter. If Joba has no confidence in Jorge – after working with him for parts of three seasons now – pitching to Jorge is not going to get Joba to where the Yanks need him to be. He should pitch to Molina.
===========================================================
As I have mentioned in many of posts Joba pitches best when Molina is catching. Molina caught Joba’s win over Beckett 1-0 last year and a couple of games before he went on DL. Which broke my heart knowing that Joba pitches best with Molina. Interesting that some one has mentioned that he saw Joba talking w/Molina between innings. Jorge was aware of it. They did look like they were having a war of wills.
Face it fans, as we get older our skills get older. So how DO you measure a catcher losing his skills. Jorgy has been known to intimidate pitchers. Yes, Joby is still a rookie, but he also has a right to shake off a call. The last time this came up with Joba, Jorge said he had no problem w/it.
Joba has four good pitches. He should be allowed to use them. Remember the game where he had 13 SO’s. Everything, but everything he pitched was a strike. He struck out batters with a change up. Don’t think he threw one yesterday.
Earlier last year Posada was quoted as saying that Joba was better suited to the pen because he didn’t have the “body” of a starter. Meaning very tall and slender. Don’t you think that slight lingers a little. (Joba had a weight problem as a youngster.) Then earlier this season after catching him Posada says he was incorrect about Joba.
Anyhow, if the Yankees want to see Joba succeed as the fearsome pitcher of the future they better find him a catcher he has confidence in. Heck, let Girardi catch him and maybe he will understand him better.