Game 63: Mets at Yankees (updates: K-Rod confronts Bruney during BP, pre-game Cashman and Girardi audio)
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YANKEES (35-27)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Matsui DH
Cabrera CF
Cervelli C
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (4-3, 4.89).
METS (32-28)
Cora SS
Martinez LF
Beltran CF
Wright 3B
Church RF
Sheffield DH
Murphy 1B
Schneider C
Castillo 2b
Pitching: LHP Johan Santana (8-3, 2.39).
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES, WPIX, TBS.
SUBWAY STATS: The teams meet again at Citi Field June 26-28. … The Mets have won six of the last nine meetings between the teams. … The Yankees are 2-3 in interleague games this season.
WHERE’S HANK WHEN WE NEED HIM? Johan Santana is the hurler Little Stein wanted so badly before the Twins dealt him to the Mets for Carlos Gomez and assorted bums. Santana has been great for the Mets this season but allowed five runs on eight hits in six innings against the Phillies in his last start. He is 4-1, 3.15 in 10 games against the Yankees in his career.
NOT SO BAD: Robinson Cano is 6 of 15 against Santana. Derek Jeter is 8 of 23 with five extra-base hits. A-Rod is 5 of 21 but with two homers.
OLD FRIENDS: A.J. Burnett was drafted by the Mets in 1995 then sent to Florida as part of the deal that landed the loquacious left-hander, Al Leiter. Burnett is 2-6, 3.83 against the Mets in his career. He has not faced them since 2005.
SLUMPING: Johnny Damon is 1 of his last 18 with five strikeouts.
A-ROD HOME RUN STUFF: Alex has 562 homers, one shy of tying Reggie Jackson for 11th place all-time. … Alex has hit nine homers in his last 14 games against the Mets. … Of his nine homers this season, eight have home at Yankee Stadium.
COMEBACKERS: The Yankees are 4-22 when trailing after eight innings. They were 4-122 in such situations from 2007-08.
COKE IS IT AGAIN: Phil Coke has thrown 5.2 scoreless innings in his last six appearances and put only four men on base.
HOMER HAVEN: There has been at least one home run in all 31 games played at Yankee Stadium this season. The Yankees have hit 100 home runs, a franchise record over 62 games.
RISP REPORT: The Yankees are 6 of their last 40 (.150) and 10 of their last 74 (.135).
Back with much more later on.
UPDATE, 11:55 a.m.: Francisco Rodriguez tried to confront Brian Bruney during batting practice today and was held back by Jose Veras. The incident attracted enough attention that several Yankees, including CC Sabathia, came over to keep the peace.
Bruney was in left field as the Yankees were finishing up their BP. The Mets were coming into the field at the same time and Rodriguez went over to Bruney and appeared to be yelling at him.
I did not see the incident myself but watched video taken from the outfield by a fan, Frank from VoteSwisher.com. (The video is not on his blog as of yet. Frank is at game.)
I asked Bruney what happened and he smiled. “We talked about our dinner plans,” he said. “That was it.”
But the video showed a lot more than that. It was testy for a few seconds before cooler heads prevailed. Bruney, for his part, remained calm. It was Rodriguez who seemed agitated.
This goes back to yesterday’s incident when, unprovoked, Bruney said Rodriguez had a “tired act.” Rodriguez then said he didn’t know who Bruney was. He also challenged Bruney to say something to his face.
UPDATE, 12:11 p.m.: YES has video. Watch their pre-game show. If Rodriguez did make contact, that is something MLB will want to look into.
UPDATE, 12:18 p.m.: Meanwhile, Brian Cashman said today that Bruney would be activated on Tuesday.
Cashman talked about assorted other topics. But whenever he was asked about the Stadium, he passed. “You’d have to talk to Randy (Levine) or Lonn (Trost) about that,” he said when asked about all the home runs. Are the dimensions really the same? “”You’d have to talk to Randy or Lonn about that,” he said. Is the team doing any studies on the wind? “You’d have to talk to Randy or Lonn about that,” he said.
So, yes, the Stadium has become an issue within the organization. Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.
UPDATE, 12:33 p.m.: The YES video of the K-Rod/Bruney incident shows no shoving. K-Rod tried to get at Bruney and was walked away by Mike Pelfrey. It looked like one of those “hold me back, hold me back” kind of things. Bruney just stood there.
UPDATE, 1:02 p.m.: No Mets and Yankees have tried to fight in the last few minutes.
UPDATE, 1:12 p.m.: Nice catch by Swish to start the game. He jumped into that impossible-to-see scoreboard in right field and jostled the “Mets” sign. He better hope it’s not broken or Lonn Trost will send him a bill.
UPDATE, 1:29 p.m.: I get it, Burnett needs to face teams from New York to pitch well. 22 pitches after two innings? That is usually two batters for him.
UPDATE, 1:36 p.m.: The Yankees are bunting their No. 6 hitter in the second inning of a scoreless game. Just brilliant.
Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad baseball.
UPDATE, 1:40 p.m.: First and third, one out. They’re due for a hit in a situation like this.
UPDATE, 1:45 p.m.: What a moment for the Cisco Kid. Facing his legendary countryman, he dumps a little RBI single into right field. 1-0 Yankees. They’re making Johan work.
UPDATE, 1:49 p.m.: No team goes after Brian Bruney and gets away with it.
UPDATE, 1:53 p.m.: Best part of that inning for the Yankees? Three straight two-out, two-strike hits with RISP. 4-0 against Santana. Burnett has to win this game now. No excuses.
UPDATE, 1:57 p.m.: Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Burnett. Gets a 4-0 lead, walks the next batter who is a .241 hitter.
UPDATE, 1:58 p.m.: If the Yankees make a highlight video of this season, it’ll be called “Here comes Dave Eiland to the mound, the story of the 2009 Yankees.”
UPDATE, 2:04 p.m.: Federal government will stop water-boarding prisoners in favor of making them watch A.J. Burnett pitch. “I give in! Here are the secret plans! No more!”
UPDATE, 2:11 p.m.: If Burnett turns it around and makes something of this season, that third inning will be where it happened. Bases loaded, no outs and he escapes.
UPDATE, 2:17 p.m.: Didn’t get to this before. Here are the pre-game interviews with Joe Girardi:
and Brian Cashman:
UPDATE, 2:40 p.m.: Wow, shocking turn of events here as Santana is out of the game after getting hammered by the Yankees. 3+ innings, nine hits and seven runs so far.
UPDATE, 2:48 p.m.: So A-Rod nearly grounded into a triple play. Then Cano homers and it’s 11-0. The nine ERs are the most ever allowed by Santana.
UPDATE, 3:02 p.m.: I think I broke my pen keeping score. What a crazy game. Can’t imagine anybody saw 13-0 coming against Santana.
Cano is now 7 of 17 against Johan and Jeter is 11 of 26.
UPDATE, 3:15 p.m.: In other news from the ballpark, Burnett is working on a three-hit shutout in the sixth inning.
UPDATE, 3:49 p.m.: Angel Berroa just got hit in the hip by a pitch. He didn’t mind, he had that hip replaced years ago.
UPDATE, 4:04 p.m.: Nice game for Burnett. 7 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 4 walks, eight strikeouts. That third inning could prove very important to him. He threw 66 of his 111 pitches for strikes.
UPDATE, 4:28 p.m.: It’s finally over. Yankees edge the Mets 15-0. Back later with some more.
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Lets go Yanks! Don’t fall behind anymore games.
Oy. Kind of glad I have a family committment. I’m afraid this game might be kind of painful.
Over / under on time of first line-up complaint posted?
I’m going with 10:49.
I’ll go with 10:48 (Price is Right style).
Westerner and Phil:
So taking the under.
The team is in a bad slump and should be in the midst of a 5 game losing streak (thanks Castillo).
I think they where fortunate to take 2 or 3 from the Rays. They didn’t play all that well in that series.
Interesting that Girardi is finally letting Cervelli catch Burnett. Looked like he tried to stay away from that battery before.
I meant to type 9:48…oh well, I lose that one.
Good to read the Yankees have so much fight off the field, they certainly haven’t laely on it.
I have several questions going forward.
Why is Angel Berroa on this team?
Will Cashman make a move for relief pitching? Corner OF?
Does Dave Eiland keep his job?
This team, like all teams, is flawed, but to me they are clearly the 2nd best team in the AL.
I hope Cashman and others wake up.
“John Henry is a billionaire who owns a baseball team. Wouldn’t you think he would have something better to do than post snarky Twitter messages about Mark Teixeira”?
In addition to the above, (the very creepy) John Henry is about to marry a very hot woman 30 years his junior.
Pete wasn’t that deal nixed because they wanted Phil Hughes,Melky and some farm people and his first born child,an arm and a leg? The Twins asked too much for the trade remember?
“John Henry is a billionaire who owns a baseball team. Wouldn’t you think he would have something better to do than post snarky Twitter messages about Mark Teixeira”?
John Henry, like lots of other rich dudes, needs a bigger challenge than making money – he’s kind of got that knocked. Being a “baseball magnate” is something to do after you’ve made more money than you can ever spend.
Picking on Teixeira? The players are like toy soldiers to guys like Henry, especially those players who did not succumb to his acquisition. He was probably trying out Twitter just to impress his wife-to-be with his “hipness.”
http://deadspin.com/5194194/re.....r+old-lass
But hey, she has her own money and maybe Henry just needs to exfoliate and moisturize more often. Gotta say, though, he looks like a very old 59. Jeez. That picture makes Tex calling him a 70 year old man even funnier.
Check out this article on Wang and his release points
http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....se-points/
This team needs a kick in the butt from Girardi.
Not a single player is batting over .300
The only starting pitcher we have right now is CC Sabathia
Bruney isn’t even playing right now, he shouldn’t be making any comments to the media about whats going on with Krod or anyone.
I don’t think Girardi should be fired yet, but if this continues a few more weeks it may be time to give Willie a call to see what hes up to.
Rebecca – I thought you were an optimist? What’s this nonsense that the game might be “kind of painful”?
RD 83:
“I don’t think Girardi should be fired yet, but if this continues a few more weeks it may be time to give Willie a call to see what hes up to.”
Seriously?
Joe: I had the good fortune to be in the stands when AJ faced Philly, and then I saw AJ against Boston while working on my thesis, and it’s also raining here in northern NJ.
I’m also running really short on sleep.
These things do not generally portend to optimis.
Rebecca-Optimist Prime:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....se-points/
As usual, lies, damned lies and statistics. That was a very interesting review.
Just heard lower level of GWB is closed!! Leave now if you are going.
Sure hope the players from NJ know this!!
Willie Randolph is not the answer to anything that ails the Yankees plus he’s the bench coach for the Brewers.
Here’s a better link:
http://www.insidethebook.com/e.....v_blogger/
In the comments section there’s ongoing discussion amongst baseball intelligentsia.
en: I’d assume all the players are already at the Stadium
What has Cano done to warrant batting 5th?
The Yanks really overrate this guy.
srsly you don’t leave now the Puerto Rican paraders are going to block you off it’s already starting at the turnpike I just just got to midtown.
He wouldn’t even be here anymore if George was still running the show.
0-8 to the Sox. They should be 0-2 to the Mets.
He has made terrible decisions late in games (Alfredo in the 8th with 2 on? Really?).
When things are going bad he never acts calm with the media.
I obviously don’t know what goes on in that clubhouse, but it seems to me this team needs a kick in the butt. No one batting over .300, CC is our only starting pitcher, there are people on this roster that shouldn’t be on there (Berroa, Veras)
Like I said, this goes on a few more weeks and we will be hearing a lot of talk about Girardi’s job and that will put some pressure on Hal for the first time of his ownership career.
RD –
It doesn’t really matter that “nobody is hitting .300″. Scoring runs is not a problem for this team, even if they have hit a bit of a slump in recent games.
But that’s baseball – it’s impossible to maintain the type of streak the Yankees were on. Eventually, you are going to lose some.
And “they should be 0-2 vs. the Mets”…well, they aren’t. They should have a few wins over the Red Sox as well – but they don’t.
Since the topic of Wang came up.
*How does Wang get through spring training wit no arm* *strength* ? What was Eiland doing while this ,season before hurt pitcher,was pitching in spring training?
should be with.
I have been always very positive in my postings always seeing some positive light even when things are the worst.
I still beleive that Yanks are a very good team, Cash will make some tweaking before the trade deadline and the team will take off and make the play offs. Heck, even with today’s record they will make it if the season were to end today.
However, some disturbing trends need attention, specifically relatd to Pettitte and Posada. Before their apologists jump at me, what I am writing below is not criticism, but observations.
First Pettitte:
Every one likes pettitte, but we can not live in the past. His line the last four games has been horrible. He says he is physically fine and I believe him as he is a stand up guy in my eyes. If that is the case then he is washed up. After horrible second half last year this bad strech of four games supports that. Joel Sherman, many love to hate him here, has a nice piece in NY post about Pettitte and Rivera. Though I question his observations on Rivera, he is right on mark on Pettitte. He thtows only eighties and relies heavily on his fast ball which is not cutting it at the ML level.
Though every one talks about Wang, I think Pettitte is the biggest question mark in the rotaiton. In all likelyhood Wang will correct himself as he is young, throws hard and it is a question of getting his confidence back and trustnig his stuff. Probably he will turn it around in the start with the Nationals.
On the other hand, unless his stuff suddenly improves, whih is unlikely, Pettite has nowhere to go. It is also important to note that though he has a guarnateed contract, it is incentives based with only 5 Mil guaranteed. So, if he continues to stink it up in the next couple of starts, Yanks have to seriouly consider forcing retirement on him or if he does not agree release him. I know, lot of people will be angry with this statement, but you have to decide whether to cater to his ego or throw up the 2009 season. Given the choice, I am sure you will choose succcess of 2009 season.
Now on to Posada:
There was lot of debate yesterday about Posada’s game calling. I stayed in the sidelines and did not participate in that discussion.
First there is no question, Posada is an elite offensive catcher and he continues to be so. Personally, I would like to see Girardi batting him 5th instead of Cano as he draws lot of walks as well and moves the runners up even when he does not get a hit.
Beyond that as game caller, he reached a point where he has become a liability. I believe that he is following the I-Rod syndrome selfishly and crewing up the minds of the young pitchers. As great a catcher I-Rod has been the rap against him was he calls too many fast balls so that he looks good in containing the running game. There is clear evidnece of it with respect to Posada as his skills diminished in this respect. Read Sherman’s article in the NY post about this aspect of Pettitte’s start yesterday. Even with a mediocre fasball, he calls for inordinate amount of fast balls and pettite got spanked. People can question Joba, yes he falls in love with his slider, but thier disagreements were mostly when Posada wanted fast balls and Joba wanted to throw sliders. And yesterday it was a telling point during Beltran’s at bat against Ace. Ace refused to throw THREE times what Posada was suggesting and then made Posada agree to throw a change up and Beltran was an easy out. Ace may be a rookie in the ML, but he is a veteran from Mexican days and did not get intimidated by Posada and threw the pitch he wanted.
So, what do you do with Posada? I think he should not catch more than three times in a week and should be DH another couple of times. Is he going ot be happy? Absolutely not. But in he interest of the team he needs to accept it and go along. One game does not make it, but it is interesting to see how AJ does it today without Posada behind the plate.
What are you thoughts. I know lot of us, including me, adore these guys for what they have done – but there is no need to go negative agaisnt the folks who have a different view.
I don’t care what the Win/Loss record is. That game was a gimmie, they did not play well enough to win. They didn’t play well enough to beat the Red Sox either. They got out played once again. They have nothing going for them right now except CC Sabathia.
After watching these games I personally blame Girardi. That is my opinion and if you don’t care for it then i could care less.
The fact that no one is hitting .300 IS telling. We’re already 1st or 2nd in the majors in homeruns, so when none of our guys hit for average, that tells you we probably hit way fewer singles than most teams (at least most good offensive teams).
That falls in line with the idea that the Yankees can never build rallies by stringing together basehits, but rather they rely on homeruns or the opposing team playing sloppy defense (remember the last game against the Rays?)
Also, it would be nice if they could score in the middle innings so when the bullpen comes into play, they’re working on adding insurance runs, not climbing from a 3 run deficit.
It still say the chemistry of the team,has changed with Posada’s return.All of the pitchers starting as well as bull pen have gotten hit hard.
Go to the Yankees web page,that picture of Andy face in his chest,and being consoled by Posada. Either Andy’s hurt or done. I hope he’s JUST PLAYING hurt.
“As great a catcher I-Rod has been the rap against him was he calls too many fast balls so that he looks good in containing the running game. There is clear evidnece of it with respect to Posada as his skills diminished in this respect.”
I have no idea if this is true, but maybe that’s why Moose didn’t like throwing to Posada? He was a pitcher who liked to work off his offspeed stuff instead of the fastball.
i’m temporarily annoyed with pitch fx data on wang.
what good is it if the experts on it are arguing about how accurate it is?
it’s like measuring velocity with radar guns that all give you different speeds.
i could see with my eyes that his release point was really high and over the top in spring training . it would be very obvious even to a casual fan if you looked at video from past seasons and in spring training.
there’s another factor that no one is mentioning. wang has a major problem with stride length.
neil allen , when teaching wang to throw the sinker strongly instructed him to shorten his stride to get the ball to sink. he constantly had to remind wang to do this over a period of years. wang isn’t self aware of his stride length and has to have a coach watching him to make sure it’s right.
here’s the problem. if wang takes a really long stride length his foot will land lower on the mound and create a lower release point. so wang’s stride length is another variable in the f/x release point, but i don’t see anything in pitch f/x that measures where a pitchers foot lands on the mound.
my feelings at present are pretty much that f/x data isn’t worth all that much right now on wang unless they get the yankee stadium pitch f/x exact and accurate.
RS
This article in the NY Post substantiates what many of us feel is wrong with the Yankees approach to hitting.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....174191.htm
Eduardo Nunez hit HR #5 last night in the 2nd gm. of a double header
Nunez is now batting .310 AVG, 5 HR, 21 RBI
Kid could be very special.
Things started going south the minute they decided to insert Wang into the rotation bumping hughes to the pen. the team was rolling when that came down. i think they are 4-6 since then and easily could be 1-9 if it were not for various gifts. the team was rolling….why did they feel the need change things up?
Where is Eduardo? AA or AAA?
*BBFan*
I yesterday ANDY throeing 2and 4 seam fastballs,and being hit and scored.When he threw the slider and cutter the hits didn’t come,or he got them out.He relied on the fastball too much.
“I spoke to an individual around the team and came away with a couple of interesting notes about some players.
- I was told that the reason for Jesus Montero being promoted, despite the struggles behind the plate, was because he was too good for the Florida State League. Ironically, there is a belief that he could handle an even higher level offensively. He calls a good game behind the plate, but his mechanics throwing out runners are not there yet. He is way too slow on the release. This was often Mike Piazza’s problem during his career. When I asked how he could compare to Piazza behind the plate the response was ” he will be as good defensively, if not better, than what Piazza was during his career”. Finally, I was told Montero really wants to catch and doesn’t like hearing how he might be a DH or moved to another position.
- Don’t look into anything about Austin Romine not being promoted. The Yanks just wanted to get each as many at-bats behind the plate as possible. PJ Pilittere was another name I discussed with my source and he raved about him. He told me PJ could play for 6-8 major league teams right now and hit about .270 with 10 homers. Not bad for a backstop these days.
- Michael Dunn has been so impressive that a member of the Yankees front office said he is throwing better than Phil Coke. Dunn has struck out 49 in 36 innings so far this year. Ironically he has fared better against right handed hitters than left.”
http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=11526
This team is painfully lost right now. Lots of time left but somebody needs to grab the wheel and right the ship.
Not a peep from the front office although Cashman is probably in the early stages of talking moves in July.
There’s little change in Girardi from last year. His press conferences are more excuses than reasons.
I know Posada just came off the DL and it’s a day game after a mid-afternoon game, but why have left-handed hitting Matsui as the DH against one of the best lefties in the game, instead of using switch hitting Posada as the DH?
I’m not sure if Matsui has better career numbers against Santana than Posada, that could be why. Maybe it’s just me though, but a switch hitter against Santana seems like a much better play than a lefty.
Plus, even if something happens to Cervelli and the Yanks have to pull Posada out of the DH spot to catch, give up the DH, and let the pitcher hit, that’s not a big deal. Girardi was a pretty good NL-style manager not too long ago.
Did Posada suffer from a brain injury that I haven’t heard of?
I don’t know how game calling skills can diminish unless, well something is wrong with his brain.
So after winning 1000 games as a catcher Posada has suddenly forgotten how to call games
Interesting theory.
Maybe the pitchers are throwing bad pitches and that’s why they’re getting hit? Does anyone think that maybe the pitchers simply aren’t executing their pitches and that’s why they’re getting hit?
I agree with the sentiment in Posada not catching more than 2 or 3 times a week. its no coincidence that the teams era goes up when he is behind the plate.
“I yesterday ANDY throeing 2and 4 seam fastballs,and being hit and scored.When he threw the slider and cutter the hits didn’t come,or he got them out.He relied on the fastball too much.”
That is what I wrote as well.
The question is whose fault is it? Posada or Pettite?.
Pettitte and Mo trust Po and rarely reject Posada’s suggestions. So, my assumption is it is Po’s.
“he team was rolling….why did they feel the need change things up?”
because cashman in a knee jerk reaction brought wang up from scranton( when he knew he couldn’t send him back) in case joba missed a start when he was hit on the mound.
joba didn’t miss a start and wang’s starter conditioning he built up in scranton was deteriorating while he sat in the bullpen.
it was a brain dead move by cashman.
if wang is left in the bullpen , you have just thrown away a two time 19 game winner because of a bad choice by cashman.
without wang, the yankees are a much less formidable team because there is no 6th starter with hughes in the rotation when someone goes down and they will.
Does this team need a players only meeting just to air things out ?
“Where is Eduardo? AA or AAA?”
AA he started getting hot in the end of April, it was a slow 1st month, got hot in May, was stabbed w/ a cleat from a baserunner came back had was HBP on his thumb, came back and hasn’t missed a beat. He has special 5-tools the kind you see from Miguel Tejada, not saying he’s going to be as good but the tools are there.
Get off this Posada nonsense. All of a sudden he is responsible for all of the pitching staff problems. This staff, thus far, is mediocre at best. Except for CC. This bullpen is overused because starters cannot go deep into games.
Pettitte said his cutter wasn’t good yesterday. So what pitches should Posada have called?
How about AJ earning his money and pitching a great game today.
Wang now knows he has to show Girardi something in his next start. Can Wang take this added pressure? They called Wang up too soon. All those pitchers in the minors and they could not find anyone besides Wang to call up.
“Michael Dunn has been so impressive that a member of the Yankees front office said he is throwing better than Phil Coke. Dunn has struck out 49 in 36 innings so far this year. Ironically he has fared better against right handed hitters than left.”
He is, he can hit 96 or 97 on the gun if he’s really amped up. I said it since last season Michael Dunn will be better than Phil Coke, I saw Coke more like a #5 SP not really a shut down. Dunn has SU reliever written all over.
“Does this team need a players only meeting just to air things out ?”
Pitch better.
Meeting over.
“After watching these games I personally blame Girardi. That is my opinion and if you don’t care for it then i could care less.”"
Hey dude: part of posting here is standing up when what you write gets questioned, or when somebody posts a different point of view. Nobody got personal on you; the reaction was to the merit of your opinions. Grow up.
“This team is painfully lost right now. Lots of time left but somebody needs to grab the wheel and right the ship.
Not a peep from the front office although Cashman is probably in the early stages of talking moves in July.”
The good thing is we still have one of the best records in baseball and are currently in a position to make the playoffs if the season ended today. As long as the Yankees don’t go into a tailspin the next few weeks, Cashman should be able to make a trade without other teams demanding too much because they think we’re desperate.
BBFan-
Pettitte problems:
He either cannot or will not pitch inside to lefties.
His cutter has lost velocity-used to be around 93 mph.
He doesn’t get the calls on the corners.
His success at Yankee Stadium as a lefty, is gone, as obviously his home run rate there has frustrated him.
He will not tell you when he is gassed or hurt, unlike Maddux who was honest with Mazzoni and Cox, about when he should be pulled from the game.
Posada problems:
Is it just me, or do others feel that he doesn’t frame pitches well, often not placing his glove in position until the pitcher starts his windup?
His throws to second are inaccurate.
Can’t really comment on his pitch calling unless I had access to the pitchers feelings, but there seems to be pitchers past and present who don’t like pitching to him. Maddux was the same way.
He’s essentially suited to DH, but that position will be crowded this year with Matsui, Nady, Swisher, best suited there.
It seems like Posada rises from his crouch slightly sooner than other catchers even if the pitch is low or in the middle which suggests to an umpire that the pitch is not a strike. By the time the ball lands in his mitt he’s started up already.
“Did Posada suffer from a brain injury that I haven’t heard of?
I don’t know how game calling skills can diminish unless, well something is wrong with his brain.
So after winning 1000 games as a catcher Posada has suddenly forgotten how to call games”
Read my post at 10:42, if you have not yet.
The issues is not with Posada of the past. It is about Posada of now.
In the past he was at least average or slightly above average in containing the running game. Now with injuries and shoulder surgery he is not and trying to make up calling too many fast balls. That is reflecting in his bad game calling.
” “Does this team need a players only meeting just to air things out ?”
Pitch better.
Meeting over.”
Amen. Play ball.
“In the past he was at least average or slightly above average in containing the running game. Now with injuries and shoulder surgery he is not and trying to make up calling too many fast balls. That is reflecting in his bad game calling.”
That is a criticism that was leveled against Pudge Rodriguez in the last few years of his career. Not sure if it’s right or wrong when it comes to Po.
Seriously can’t for the life of me understand however why this wasn’t such a problem during the recent winning streak if Po’s style is such a problem.
I got to admit it is funny that ~who is Brian Bruney ? is getting under K-Rod’s skin
Mets
Cora SS
Fmart LF
Beltran CF
Wright 3B
Church RF
Sheffield DH
Murphy 1B
Schneider C
Castillo 2B
Any thoughts of Michael Dunn being called up may become reality if Damaso Marte is shut down for the year per his visit with Dr. Andrews in Birmingham.
BBFan and Yankee Trader, I couldn’t agree more with your assessments.
Catching is one of the most important positions in the game if not the most important.
Big time Glen, Mark Newman loves that guy, he’ll likely hit AAA soon and get 5 – 15 IP and then hit the Bronx.
I think the biggest problem with this pitching staff is the inability to throw strikes.
When a pitcher is up 0-1, 0-2 on most batters, the hitters are forced to swing early in the count.
When the pitcher falls behing 2-0, 3-1, most hitters will sit there and take another pitch or two. That turns every AB into a 5-6 pitch AB, hence the high pitch counts and short outings.
When was the last time a Yankees starter got through 7 innings on 90-95 pitches? Maybe CC has done that a few times, but hardly anyone else has. Those quick innings were a specialty of Wang’s, which is another reason we badly need him to return to form. Burnett and Joba give up too many walks and Pettitte allows a ton of baserunners. We need someone who can get through innings quickly and pitch deep into games. That helps the defense as well.
As far as I am aware George was coherent in 2004. Was Joe fired after that collapse? No, so stop this garbage that Joe G would be fired for going o for against the soxs.
Murph,
Exactly. I love how its Posada’s fault, Cashman’s fault, Girardi’s fault, everybody’s fault except the pitchers, (who are the guys throwing the ball) for the pitching being so poor this week.
People ripping on Posada’s gamecalling skills crack me up. The guy has caught all star pitchers, Hall of Fame pitchers, won rings, and caught no hitters. Now, he can’t call games anymore. The wonders of sofa scouts.
Most of you have no idea what the game plan is for hitters each night. Nor do you know how many times guys shake off Posada and throw the wrong pitch. As was the case with Joba all Friday night.
How about this “theory”?
How about we have a 23 year old kid stop shaking off Posada as he continues to have trouble finding the plate? He’ not good enough to shake off Posada on almost every pitch.
How about Andy Pettitte stop trying to earn his incentives and tell the manager he is hurting so he doesn’t continue to give up 2-3 baserunners per inning in his now 4-5 inning starts?
How about AJ Burnett forget what happened in Boston in April and get back to attacking the strikezone?
How about somebody, including Mariano, in the bullpen shut down teams for a change?
How about Chien Ming Wang get back to being the Wang of old?
Its not the catcher, manager, pitching coach, bullpen coach or man in the moon’s fault for this pitching staff struggles.
Its up to the 12 guys on the staff to raise their games.
If they do that, the brainstrust looks “smart” again.
They can’t change the entire pitching staff at the trade deadline. If this is all these guys have to give, its not a playoff team.
I happen to think they are better than they have shown this week.
Every team has bad weeks in a baseball season. This week is the Yankees bad week.
How they recover from it, will tell us whether they will be competitive all year. Something tells me they will survive this week and be in the race all year.
“It seems like Posada rises from his crouch slightly sooner than other catchers even if the pitch is low or in the middle which suggests to an umpire that the pitch is not a strike. By the time the ball lands in his mitt he’s started up already.”
I noticed that exact same thing. In the AB to David Wright the other day with Mo on the mound, the first pitch was right down the middle of the plate but Posada moved his glove away quickly and stood up. The pitch was called a ball, and after two swings and misses, Wright hit a double. He might have struck out if Posada had left his glove there and framed the pitch better (it didn’t even need to be “framed” as it was right on top of the plate).
http://wolnews.com/front-page/.....-goes.html
Moose wins award.
Why not bring up Shelly Duncan to replace Berroa. His enthusiasm alone would be a plus. A spot stater (DH), pinch hitter. When was the last time Berroa played? Pena isn’t even getting any time now.
SJ.
Congrats re: Tony. I read a few days ago that his signing bonus was 2.5mm. Tremendous. I would guess the whole process was pretty surreal for him. He is fortuante to have you as an uncle.
-dennis
BBFan – At Pettitte’s age, you have to wonder if this is the end of the line. You can pitch with decreased FB velocity, as long as you can control location, and you have another pitch or two. I’ve read that his cutter is very flat these days. Does this portend the end of the road? If you’re cold-blooded, you force the issue with Andy,then you just slot in Hughes or stretch out Aceves and move on.
As far as Posada and his game calling, that I’d have to leave to Joe and the coaches, Pena and Eiland.
One last thought. Re: – bringing Wang back in response to Joba’s being hit – How do we know it was Cash who wanted that? How do we know it wasn’t Joe/coaching staff who pushed for it? Did I miss something in the news?
“Now with injuries and shoulder surgery he is not and trying to make up calling too many fast balls. That is reflecting in his bad game calling.”
This is utterly baseless speculation of the worst kind with regards to sports because you are essentially arguing that Posada is now so selfish, and so self-centered that he is changing the way he calls games to aid his own personal performance rather than maximizing the chance of the team winning.
Posada is so selfish that he’s putting his own personal concerns ahead of a 23 year old kid’s who is clearly struggling on the mound? Really?
That’s a remarkable conclusion to draw and there is zero evidence to support it.
Wild inference is not evidence. And if you can’t produce evidence all you have is mean spirited idle speculation that essentially impugn’s posada’s integrity.
I have never, every heard some kind of theory comparing Posada to Ivan Rodriguez.
The issue of Posada’s game calling skills has to be one of the more over blown subject in yankee discussions.
There is nothing wrong with Posada’s game calling NOW.
The idea that playing Posada at catcher every game possible doesn’t maximize the team’s chance of winning is absurd. He’s so good with the bat that even if he were as bad a catcher as Mike Piazza he should still be catching everyday.
But Posada isn’t Piazza. He’s a fine defensive or game calling catcher. Not great. Not bad. He’s fine – even now. And combined with that bat he’s a phenomenal asset.
Losing Posada last year and replacing him with Molina cost that team at least 5-6 wins. They finished 6 games out of the wild card.
Remarkable how quickly people forget.
Major league pitchers who can’t establish their fastballs get killed. That’s why Posada calls fastballs – he is right to do so. That’s particularly true for Joba.
That Aceves – a guy posada has hardly worked with because he’s so new – shakes off a posada call means nothing. That’s just one anecdotal observation.
To blame Posada for Andy’s awful stuff is preposterous. Andy had nothing yet again yesterday.
And it will mean nothing if AJ happens to pitch well against today with Cervelli behind the plate. My goodness I hope he dominates this mets team – it’s a AAA quality line up for most of the spots. They are awful right now due to injuries.
I think people have these mental boxes that creates this bias where they automatically assume good hitting catcher means he must be a bad defensive catcher.
To one up that inference by saying Posada is so selfish that he’s putting his own interest in throwing out runners before the betterment of the team’s chances to win is remarkable.
If you are going to fire a manager after a bad week, you are going to have a lot of turnover on teams each year.
Sometimes, taking a deep breath, even on a blog, is ok.
Joe Girardi isn’t getting fired this week. Nor should he.
In case you haven’t seen the standings, if the season ended today, the Yankees are the WC team. Managers don’t get fired for being that “bad”. Especially after missing the playoffs last year.
Contain your inner-80’s Steinbrenner. In case some of you are neglectful of history, the Yankees didn’t win anything in the 80’s when George was acting like a petulent child posting on a blog.
Good teams, and good organizations, have stability.
SJ44-
Great points, but explain the “game plan” and how bottom of the order hitters are winning games for their teams-Dillon, Kottaras, Aybar, to name a few recently.
“Most of you have no idea what the game plan is for hitters each night.”
*Frustrated Fan* the errors started with Posada,he broke the streak himself.Now there’s error a game.
When a catcher calls a bad pitch,and the pitcher throws it,the fielder are stuck trying to fix the mistake.
I agree that the Yankees rely on the long ball too much.When the bats are silent,Joe should manufacture runs,that’s not just bunting.It’s double steals, steals,sacfly,et al.
*Someone said La Russa’s contract is up this year.* If the Yankees signed him two things come.He brings small ball like you’ve never seen to the Bronx and *He brings Shelly’s* *dad,David Duncan,pitching coach exstrodinaire*.
Before you bash La Russa,he has the most wins of any coach playing now.
Cashman is a moot point now,a two hundred million payroll and he still can’t get the job done.
“Seriously can’t for the life of me understand however why this wasn’t such a problem during the recent winning streak if Po’s style is such a problem.”
Wasn’t Posada still on DL during most of that successful run?
SJ44, did you ever think that the Yankees won world series championships, in spite of Posada? Maybe the Yankees would of won more ws championships in the 2000’s if they had a better signal caller.
Hopefully it’s just a coincidence the team started playing bad baseball when the Red Sox and Mets came up on the schedule.
As much as we hate playing poorly against our rivals, could you imagine if the Yankees were losing this way to the Orioles or Nats? I’m sure the consensus then would be the Yankees aren’t even playoff contenders.
Perfect…..have Gardner get 2 out of the 5 hits we got yesterday so we can bench him today. While he is not a great hitter, he is very streaky as he has shown previously. Wow!
BRUNEY AND K-ROD WERE JUST FIGHTING ON THE FIELD
On twitter someone said K-rod confronted Bruney during BP. If k-rod doesn’t know who Bruney is how did he find him?
“How about we have a 23 year old kid stop shaking off Posada as he continues to have trouble finding the plate? He’ not good enough to shake off Posada on almost every pitch.”
Have to agree there. Who’s Joba to shake off Posada every two pitches? It was annoying to see, especially when he couldn’t throw anything for a strike. And like SJ pointed out, and others have pointed out, Jorge has caught monumental games in Yankee history. Let him call the shots behind the plates with a rook like Joba, let Joba have at least a season of consistency before he starts demanding to call all the shots on the mound.
Before the Boston series, I predicted the Yanks would go 2-4 through the weekend. Actually, I said wouldn’t be worried if they went 2-4. I think they can pull off a win today and get back to doing well.
ABK- Verbal? or physical?
“Why not bring up Shelly Duncan to replace Berroa”
B/c he can’t hit anything that’s not a fastball and can’t field. Shelley is a DH in a land of 1,000 DHs, most likely a summer trade will happen and Berroa’s place on the 40 becomes useful for someone else.
“BRUNEY AND K-ROD WERE JUST FIGHTING ON THE FIELD”
You serious
Wait there’s a fight on the field?
“Perfect…..have Gardner get 2 out of the 5 hits we got yesterday so we can bench him today. While he is not a great hitter, he is very streaky as he has shown previously. Wow!”
Interestingly, lefties have hit for a higher average against Santana the last two years, but not by that much to count.
I dont uderstand why the yankees sed down Veras and call up Zachary Kroenke. Look at what hes done in AAA:
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=476127
I have a feeling Berroa might just be on the roster until interleague is over. When the Yankees play in NL parks, Pena becomes the primary pinch-runner (assuming Gardner gets a few starts) and Berroa becomes the backup in case Girardi wants to give one of the infielders a rest.
BRUNEY JUST GOT KNOCKED OUT
K-ROD IS NOW POINTING TO THE SKY
Yes my friend is in stadium and he saw it live, wait for Pete to update.
I’m sorry, I can’t take it anymore. I have to be honest here. Posada to me, is everything wrong with the Yankees. He has terrible communication with his pitchers, doesn’t frame his glove for anyone, pitchers don’t want him as their catcher, calls a terrible game and in a simple sense, is just plain awful. The Yankees have a better record with other catchers catching then with Posada behind the plate.
Here’s my prediction. The Yankees will never win a world series again with Posada behind the plate. Once he leaves, expect some world series championships but until then, expect to have your heart broken.
Stability, huh?
Well, the Yanks are all for stability even if it makes no sense. Berroa being on the roster shows stability, even though he contributes nothing. Same with Veras.
Heck, even the Milwaukee Brewers demand more from their players than the Yanks. They sent Manny Parra to the minors after another miserable start. The Yanks will continue to run Pettitte out there with his 88 mph dead fastball all season long.
Posada shouldnt catch anymore. He is bad wuith pitchers. He wants them to pitch his game. But hes not the one out there. He calls bad pitches and when the pitcher is struggling he just gets more frustrated and gets mad at the pitcher. Molina or Cervailli let the pitcher relax, calm him down, and call the pitches the pitcher wants. Thats why there so good. posada has to DH already.
No, teams don’t win titles “in spite of” their all star catcher so, that’s not a real theory.
If you are concerned about “bottom of the order hitters” having big hits, do you think teams feel the same way when Melky Cabrera a, “bottom of the order” hitter, wins games for the Yankees?
That’s baseball. These guys are all major league players. Sometimes, they get hits.
That’s not the catchers fault when they do.
So K-Rod went to Scranton to face Bruney and knock him out!!LOL
I’m not joking
“BRUNEY JUST GOT KNOCKED OUT
K-ROD IS NOW POINTING TO THE SKY”
Awesome
“BRUNEY JUST GOT KNOCKED OUT”
Will never believe that, I’m sorry but K-Rod can’t fight, he talks the talk but he ain’t a fighter.
CB,
As much as you are a respected poster here, all you care about is about statistics, sometimes meaningless. When people write thier point using similar statistics, you belittle them, like ERA when Poisada is behind the plate.
The bottom line is when Posada is behind the plate the team is uder performing. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the pitchers, as they seem to be doing better when Posada is not behind the plate. Can you come up with your statistical reasons why it is so? For once, try doing it without belittling people becuase they do not agree with your point of view.
Yankee Trader
Brian is with the team. I read that K-rod confronted Bruney I did not read that there was a physical confrontation.
I’m waiting for :
Bruney challenged K-Rod to a fight under the O’Neill banner at high noon.
K-Rod responded “Who’s O’Neill?”
Coke, Robertson, and Aceves have done well the past few weeks. Slowly, our bullpen is improving but we just need that one dominant set-up man. If Bruney can return strong and be that guy, and the starters can start going deep into games more, our entire pitching staff should improve tremendously. Oh yeah, and Wang has to start pitching like Wang.
“Posada shouldnt catch anymore. He is bad wuith pitchers. He wants them to pitch his game. But hes not the one out there. He calls bad pitches and when the pitcher is struggling he just gets more frustrated and gets mad at the pitcher. Molina or Cervailli let the pitcher relax, calm him down, and call the pitches the pitcher wants. Thats why there so good.”
Well said without meaningless statistics
DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
I’m waiting for :
Bruney challenged K-Rod to a fight under the O’Neill banner at high noon.
K-Rod responded “Who’s O’Neill?”
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You are funny!
That’s a very insightful post Sean.
“His” game is the game the TEAM wants him to call, based on the scouting reports they have on each opponent.
Posada just doesn’t decide on his own what game will be called behind the plate.
“He’s everything that’s wrong about the Yankees”. Probably the most nonsensical statement written on this blog in a very long time.
Really? Jorge Posada, probably the #1 reason why they didn’t make the playoffs, is now, “everything that’s wrong with the Yankees”? That’s nonsense.
One of the things that’s “wrong” with the Yankees is its moronic fan base that know nothing about the game and trash players blindly based on the results of the day’s events.
Its comical to me to read some of this nonsense.
Jorge Posada isn’t what’s “wrong” with the Yankees.
They are in second place TWO games out of first, with 99 games left, and you folks want to sell he’s a problem?
Man, even Larry David can’t write such comedy.
Well explain why Posada’s CERA is 6.33 and Cervelli’s is a 4.37 and Molina’s is a 3.49. Stats dont lie. i already knew this before i just looked at the stats.
Got a report, K-Rod walked up to Bruney during BP, Veras came between them and blocked them, then everybody gathered together and seperate them, no physical fights.
BBFan, Jorge’s CERA numbers for his career are about the same as those for his backups over that span. So unless he forgot how to call games overnight, I would say the numbers this year have a lot to do with Jorge catching Wang a number of times.
Great posts, SJ and CB – I couldn’t have said it better. People want to blame Eiland, Joe, Jorge, ANYONE other than the players and it’s sad. I have no proof that Andy is pitching in discomfort simply because of his incentives- actually, I put that all on the Yankees. IF he is, then they have no business allowing him to pitch. They ought to DL him even if he squawks. IF they are letting the guy dictate their actions, then it’s their own darn fault. Aside from that, Andy is old and he seems to have lost a lot – stuff and control are severely diminished. That is not anyone’s fault except Andy’s and father time’s – not Jorge’s, not anyone. The same goes for everyone else – just execute the pitches, it’s not that hard. If a vet wants to shake off Jorge, do it – and then make sure you throw that pitch WHERE you want it.
I’m not a fan of the homer happy offense – this is the same team that they were last year, the year before, they year before., Despite having excellent hitters (and no real slugger – Alex is not a pure slugger, he’s too good for that), they just are not good at executing the fundamentals. This is why they struggle against good teams…..and why even if they get into the playoffs, I don’t think they will advance. They will face good pitching and you know they will squander the few opportunites they do get. This is just their pattern, and it was the same way even in their torrid stretch. Saving their runs for the late innings works against struggling or bad relievers. That said, the lineup is just in a collective slump – they’ll come out of it. The SP? It’s been two months and it’s still mediocre. The pen? How many arms can the Yankees possibly trade for? Not enough as far as I’m concerned.
SJ44-
I’m not saying its the catchers fault when a relative unknown like Dillon goes 4-4, unlike Cabrera who’s been in the majors 4 years.
Also another relative unknown in Nieve shuts them down.
Is this insufficient scouting, or something else?
Why does the Phillies highest rated pitcher, Bastardo get bombed by the Red Sox. Do they have better scouting, or just plain better hitters?
RS, that’s not true at all. Everyone was so happy during the 4-2 homestand, but the Yankees did not play that well. They got a gift win against Tampa and in most of those games made errors and bad baserunning mistakes. Their SP wasn’t so great, either.
*BBFan* thank you for the stat comment,relying on them is what got the Yankees in this mess.They are all under performing their *STATS*
SJ44
Hey he is the reason we didn’t make the playoffs last year! After all he wasn’t on the field.
WE finally found a place for Veras. He stopped a fight.!!
I thought Bruney was in Trenton…..I hope this is a joke. I hate Brian right now – what an idiot for starting this, and then continuing it when the media asked him about it.
“Got a report, K-Rod walked up to Bruney during BP, Veras came between them and blocked them, then everybody gathered together and seperate them, no physical fights.”
DFA Veras NOW !
No BBFan, the team isn’t “underperforming” with Posada behind the plate. They had a bad week. Are you not capable of distinguishing that over underperformance?
He’s going to catch most of the games. That means, when they lose, he’s going to be behind the plate.
You can’t honestly believe that Francisco Cervelli is now a better catcher than Jorge Posada, can you?
The idea that a catcher, or a team, lets a pitcher “call his own game” is not accurate.
Very few pitchers want to call their own game because they aren’t good at it. There aren’t ANY 23 year old starters in the game who are given the chance to “call their own game”.
They can shake off occasionally. However, teams don’t like when they shake off all the time because pitchers usually lose their consistency when they do.
Just about every post on here today ripping Posada for his gamecalling skills come from folks who know nothing about gamecalling. They are just upset the Yankees lost a bunch of games this week and are looking for a scapegoat.
“The bottom line is when Posada is behind the plate the team is uder performing. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the pitchers, as they seem to be doing better when Posada is not behind the plate.”
So when Joba threw that dominant 8 inning game with Posada behind the plate we should ignore that but we should only notice the 4 inning disaster that was Joba’s last outing?
We should discount the fact that Posada happened to catch the vast majority of Wang’s starts when we look at how ERA is correlated with who is catching?
And the Posada bashing continues. No matter what you say, Posada is not the “scapegoat” for the pitchers problems.
Posada used to be not bad but hes grown older and become more stubborn bcause hes a veteran. i think its more so the pitcher dont like him than he calls a bad game.
Betsy, Bruney was back from Trenton and at YS for yesterday’s game
“The bottom line is when Posada is behind the plate the team is uder performing. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the pitchers, as they seem to be doing better when Posada is not behind the plate.”
The bottom line is when Girardi is managing the team it is underperforming. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the players, as they seem to be doing better when Torre and not Girardi are in the dugout.
That said, K-Rod should have left this alone today.
SJ44, I believe that Francisco Cervelli is a superior game caller than Jorge Posada. It’s not even close. Hands down Cervelli is better.
In my opinion of course.
Seriously, it’s like most of the people here have never followed a baseball season before.
The stupidity and ignorance is really embarrassing to be a part of.
maybe CC can get Jerry Lawler to sneak up behind K-Rod and bodyslam him
I love Posada man but something isn’t right. We need Molina back asap.
Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am
SJ44, I believe that Francisco Cervelli is a superior game caller than Jorge Posada. It’s not even close. Hands down Cervelli is better.
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You do realize that pitches are also called from the bench.
For those who say Posada caught all those pitchers during the Yankees championships, think about the pitchers who were great during that time: Pettitte, Wells, Cone, Clemens, El Duque, Nelson, Stanton, Rivera, etc.
Those guys were all VETERANS, except for Pettitte and Mo. But Posada also caught Pettitte in the minors for years, and Mo only throws one pitch, so anyone can call him.
Now I’m not trying to say Posada doesn’t call a good game, because truthfully I can’t give much insight into that aspect of baseball. But I do think there’s a difference in crafty veterans/HOF pitchers doing well with Posada and then rookies like Hughes and Chamberlain or a less polished pitcher like Burnett struggling with him behind the plate.
Thanks a lot Dennis. I really appreciate it.
He’s off to Bradenton for extended ST until Thursday. Then off to Charleston WVA to make his pro debut Friday night.
He’s in Charleston for 3 days, and then heads to State College for 3 days of games because Charleston will be on their All Star Break. He will then head to Wichita for the Johnny Bench Award Dinner before returning to Charleston on the 27th to finish the year with that club.
Going to be a whirlwind time and he’s enjoying every minute of it!
“How about we have a 23 year old kid stop shaking off Posada as he continues to have trouble finding the plate? He’ not good enough to shake off Posada on almost every pitch.
How about Andy Pettitte stop trying to earn his incentives and tell the manager he is hurting so he doesn’t continue to give up 2-3 baserunners per inning in his now 4-5 inning starts?
How about AJ Burnett forget what happened in Boston in April and get back to attacking the strikezone?
How about somebody, including Mariano, in the bullpen shut down teams for a change?
How about Chien Ming Wang get back to being the Wang of old?”
Good points.
But how about that any catcher will look good if all that happens
Carl June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am
I love Posada man but something isn’t right. We need Molina back asap.
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How did the Yankees do with Jose as the primary catcher last year? Oh that’s right we missed the playoffs.
K-Rod: “Who youshutyoface”
Bruney: “Huh ?” (points to the sky)
Thanks, Fran!
Carl
June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am
I love Posada man but something isn’t right. We need Molina back asap.
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Wow. I think I officially done reading comments here.
“You do realize that pitches are also called from the bench.”
Not really. There would be alot of sign stealing that way.
Any comments on Joel Sherman’s article today?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....174191.htm
could sergio mitre help us in the bullpen.
Oh, I forgot no one has a curve ball in AAA, Duncan’s 20 dingers were all on fastballs!
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=476127
Zachary Kroenke could help us in the bullpen
Is Mitre now eligible to come off his 50 game suspension?
“Oh, I forgot no one has a curve ball in AAA, Duncan’s 20 dingers were all on fastballs!”
About time you remember. And yes he’s trade bait, a AAAA player.
“The bottom line is when Girardi is managing the team it is underperforming. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the players, as they seem to be doing better when Torre and not Girardi are in the dugout.”
Your hatred for Girardi is well known.
You always question his moves even when 99% of the ML managers would make the same move. But, that is your right to say.
As knowledgeble as you are, did it occur to you that it is the pitchers who throw the ball not Girardi? lol.
And Yeah, Torre took us to the promised land in the last 7 years with the highest payroll in the game.
Carl June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am
I love Posada man but something isn’t right. We need Molina back asap.
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How did the Yankees do with Jose as the primary catcher last year? Oh that’s right we missed the playoffs.
Because you know we didn’t miss 30 starts from Joba and Wang. That doesn’t count right. Who said I wanted Jose as our main catcher? Jose can call a game, throw out runners, and can catch Joba.
Trader,
Sherman is right. If they continue to rely on the HR, it is going to kill them.
Veras was told by Girardi to go home for stepping between Bruney and K-Rod and not knocking the little weasel out!!
Sherman, he’s the doom and gloom reporter, almost every article is negative. I read him for fun or when I’m pissed at the team. But I take his insight with a grain of salt.
this year is not business as usual.
it’s make the playoffs or management people and coaches will be fired including cashman.
as long as the team is in a comfortable position in the standings all’s well.
but when things get in a danger zone like right now, the pressure increases on people who are at risk to be fired.
there are about 20 games to the half way mark.
no way did the yankees spend what they spent this past winter to not be in a good position for making the playoffs at the half way mark.
so these next 20 games are critical for the team and for management personnel and coaches.
fair or not , there will be people let go if the players don’t play well.
Just to bring up a point which if it was mentioned I did not see it.
Yankee starters have been dreadfull in the last week or more. We have heard different reasons for this occurring. Some blame has been on Posada. Others have blamed Joe Giradi. Why has Eiland escaped any criticism? He is the pitching coach, everyone is quick to blame the manager. These guys are all proffessionals. Or is it another series of dumb pitching decisions on Cashman’s part?
“Wow. I think I officially done reading comments here.”
You’ll be back, Bob. We know it.
A homer happy offense is not going to get it done in the postseason or against good pitching.
Yeah, they are going to hit 4+ bombs off guys like Livan. You think they will do the same off Lester or Beckett?
Where is this video you speak of pete?
Veras pitched 2 scoreless innings yesterday AND broke up a fight?
Great, that guys him another month on the team.
Jesus….it just dawned on me who Carl really is. It’s Carl Spackler.
Agree with Randy I.
They better produce.
If they fall out of contention by trade deadline, heads will roll, starting with Eiland and Girardi possibly next.
Cashman will somehow survive.
Yeah, I can’t find that video on the website. Where is it?
They just showed some video of the K-Rod/Bruney thing on the BP show on yes.
“June 14th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Check out this article on Wang and his release points
http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....se-points/”
Is it not true that pitchers have complained about the rubber at Yankee stadium and that either that or the mound are slightly different than other ballparks?
I heard that somewhere on this blog and a reader pointed out that that, along with the camera angles, should account for his release point changes. But I suppose the only way to tell is to track other release points at the stadium, and only at the stadium, to see what’s going on.
The video is not on his blog yet. He’s at the game.
So unnecessary to pick a fight, especially someone as insignificant as Bruney.
This is like when Shelly Duncan tried to retaliate against the Rays in Spring Training.
Wow, how does KRod let Bruney get in his head like that?
That’s like Pablo Sandoval calling out Tex for something, get over it
“Yeah, I can’t find that video on the website. Where is it?”
I think Pete was plugging the blog, not linking the video, the guy probably took a video on his cell phone at the game.
if K-rod doesn’t now who Bruney is, how he triied to confront bruney?
K-Rod’s an idiot. I liked Bruney’s comments, kinda outta nowhere, but I liked it nonetheless.
Pete for the love of god plug it into your blog.
Atleast Bruney had the common sense to show restraint today.
I would have thought Bruney would throw punches and get suspended (or get hurt again). He hasn’t shown himself to be the sharpest tool in the shed.
K-Rod is the one looking for a fight. Bruney can say whatever he wants. Or anybody else. Freedom of speech.
Not sure why K-Rod is so upset just because one doesn’t like his after the save celebrations.
Tell them to stick it and move on.
Personally, I think the K-Rod-Bruney stuff is great.
Bruney just said what a lot of guys feel. If K-Rod has a problem with it, that’s life.
Good stuff. Maybe it will wake up the team.
Pie Man needs to pitch a big ball game today
He has been awful in big games and is not getting it done
“We should discount the fact that Posada happened to catch the vast majority of Wang’s starts when we look at how ERA is correlated with who is catching?”
Yesterday some one was kind enough to discount Wang’s starts and calculate the ERAs. The pattern still holds.
BREAKING: Mets have acquired infielder Javier Castillo from the White Sox, and have assigned him to Triple-A Buffalo. The 25-yr old Castillo hit 262-.319-.387 in 182 plate appearances for Triple-A Charlotte this year.
This could be the turning point.
j/k
Any link for the YES pre-game show? Or they don’t upload it on their website?
Little Frankie is a sensitive fellow I see.
I’m surprised other players don’t try to get in his head.
Did K-Rod walk out on the field with a Bruney baseball card trying to match up faces?
Kind of funny how a nobody like Bruney is calling out the best closer in baseball
That would be like Nick Green saying Derek Jeter is overrated
MLB
will let it go,They only fine the Yankees.
The blind eye is in for the other teams.
“So, yes, the Stadium has become an issue within the organization. Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.”
Are you kidding me?
anyone know any special prayers that may help the Yanks batters against Johan. Considering they couldn’t even hit Nieves, They may need some divine intervention.
You don’t get up in a persons grill in their yard,not for nothing.Bring it!!
Fire Dave Eiland now. A comment like that is ridiculous.
I thought that pig K-Rod didn’t know who Bruney was?
“So, yes, the Stadium has become an issue within the organization. Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.”
What about the opposition?
They play the game in the same park.
The staff that gives less runs wins the games with every thing being equal.
Eiland better shut up his mouth and get his pitchers right, if not he won’t be here long.
Erik,
All starts with Mr. Whipped Cream. If he puts them in a early hole, it’s over.
Not going to be easy to score runs at all today.
Dave
June 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Fire Dave Eiland now. A comment like that is ridiculous.
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Eiland is a moron I guess Fenway park was in the pitchers head when Wang and Burnett had no control and couldn’t throw strikes.
“anyone know any special prayers that may help the Yanks batters against Johan.”
Yanks don’t need prayers for batters, they need it for AJ and co. I think they’ll be fine against Santana.
Are Red Sox pitchers afraid to throw strikes at Fenway Park? Last I checked, that’s a hitters ballpark.
If the staff uses the ballpark as an excuse, how do they explain all the walks and bad counts on roadtrips this year?
I hate hearing that because if that’s in guy’s heads, its a problem.
They have had problems throwing strikes all year, everywhere. Its not just confined to Yankee Stadium.
I don’t see opposing teams walking so many Yankee hitters in the new ballpark.
I understand the frustration when you make a good pitch and a guy hits a ball out that should be a routine flyball.
However, you can say the same for pitchers at Fenway, Coors Field, Citizens Bank, etc.
Sounds like an excuse for poor pitching to me.
Next, folks will blame Posada for the stadium construction.
Sergio Mitre has completed his 50 game suspension and is now pitching at Scanton/ Wilkes-Barre.
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=429901
So what exactly happened? K-Rod searched Bruney out? Did they come close to throwing punches? Whatever- thankfully Veras stepped in. Bruney is an idiot and K-Rod just tried to make things worse.
“So, yes, the Stadium has become an issue within the organization. Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.”
What a great comment! Says a lot about the mental makeup of the pitchers too if that is true.
What about the road? They’re not throwing many strikes on the road either.
From Bronx Banter:
If there’s good news, it’s that after posting a 0.78 ERA over his first seven starts, Santana has been human over his last five, posting a 4.64 and giving up eight home runs, including four to the Phillies his last time out.
The BP show only showed K-Rod being held back by one of the Mets. I didn’t even see Bruney in the pic.
Wow, I agree that Eiland has to go after making that comment. I do think the park is in Andy’s head and maybe AJ’s – but that is their problem. On the other hand, if the pitching coach is encouraging that line of thinking – that’s inexcusable.
Great logic.
Rather than throwing strikes and giving up solo bombs… they will walk guys to give up bombs with runs on base.
If the park is the reason why our pitchers are afraid to throw strikes they should be traded/released now.
“anyone know any special prayers that may help the Yanks batters against Johan. Considering they couldn’t even hit Nieves, They may need some divine intervention.”
Which Santana are we afraid of?
The one that gave up four homers the last time out, or the one that lost to Pittsburgh the time before that?
Santana has given up 11 homers this year. I think it will be 14 by the end of the day.
AJ just needs to show up and pitch well for once.
The only thing MLB is going to do is suspend Bruney for violently attacking F. Rodriguez undefended hands.
Hahahaha. Bruney would work K-Rod in a fight. It’s too bad Veras was there to hold him back. Can’t wait to see the video.
Although Bruney doesn’t really need to get suspended, I hope that they go at it sometime soon cause I too think that K-Rod has a tired act.
So funny Brian stood there just watching K-rod act like a moron. Would love to see K-rod get suspended for shoving Brian.
So Eiland is blaming the ballpark? LOL. so when I fail at work I’ll blame mt desk, it’s not conducive to me working well.
Maybe Eiland should talk to Buck Showalter who said, “you know how to keep those HRs from flying out of Yankee Stadium? PITCH BETTER!”
“What about the road? They’re not throwing many strikes on the road either.”
Well, on the road, it’s Jorge’s fault.
Pete i just saw the video, Krod didnt make any contact with bruney. He tried to push away from his teammates, MLB has no reason to look into this. Stop trying to hype it more than what it already is.
Andy and AJ admitted the park was in their head. Check out that Newsday article after the Phillies series. There was one with quotes from Andy recently in the Daily News too.
Joba also made a comment that “you just have to learn to deal with it” or something to that affect.
Nothing new here. Eliand just saying what the other guys have already said subtly.
RS are handing it to the Phillies,2 straight so far.
“No BBFan, the team isn’t “underperforming” with Posada behind the plate. They had a bad week.”
SJ, I hope you are right and I am wrong for the good of the team.
Time will tell.
Yeah, Eliand should be fired because the PITCHERS are intimidated by the ballpark
So what? this is your f’ing ballpark. Man up and PITCH. How are the opposing pitchers doing in the VERY SAME ballpark? Indirectly Andy & AJ are saying that the offense stinks then?
brent,
The sane Phillies team that was one Brad Lidge implosion away from sweeping us away at home right in the middle of our hottest streak of the year.
“Little Frankie is a sensitive fellow I see.
I’m surprised other players don’t try to get in his head.
Did K-Rod walk out on the field with a Bruney baseball card trying to match up faces?”
DT that’s hilarious
Posada demanded that they build the stadium with shorter walls so that he could catch the all time HR record for catchers!!!!!
Even Selena Roberts might think she heard something about that possibly being true!
A fringe reliever talking smack to an elite closer is going to fire up the team?
Where do you come up with this stuff? Is that going to make AJ pitch better today?
Its a simple decision with the stadium, take out the first 5 rows in the outfield, push the bullpen fences back by 5 feet and raise the fences by 2 feet.
Stadium fixed
DT- needs to take his comedy act on the road.
This whole thing was fanned up by the sports media,they kept it going,Pete included.
But it’s true if he doesn’t know who Brian Bruney is how did he find him
Is it me or just all “Rod’s” are drama queens. A-Rod, K-Rod…
YES the very same team.
How about they pie Burnett if he throws less than 25 pitches in the 1st?
Andy Pettitte vs. Josh Johnson next Friday
And Wang vs. John Lannen on Tuesday
Yet another pitcher with a better ERA under a catcher not named Posada….according to the stats kim jones just stated.
So Kim Jones just said that Cervelli was matched with AJ on purpose to give him some more “comfort” and noted that AJ’s ERA with Po catching is 7+. Wow. Posada must be pissed.
People on the DL should be seen, not heard.
Question? If AJ pitches a gem today, will it be a product of 5 days rest? posada not catching him? Or something else? Thoughts?
Way to pick on the heart of the team…the Posada haters are ridiculous, misguided and annoying.
In the words of the immortal Alex Belth of Bronx Banter:
“KRod is a f*cking son of a b*tch”
lol YES mentions Posada’s 7 ERA with Cervelli
“As knowledgeble as you are, did it occur to you that it is the pitchers who throw the ball not Girardi? lol. ”
As knowledgeble as you are, did it occur to you that it is the pitchers who throw the ball not Posada? lol.
All I did in my prior post was to substitute Girardi’s name for Posada’s from your prior post to illustrate the logic of your underlying proposition. That’s it.
Interesting how simply substituting one name for another completely changes your take on the situation.
I don’t think this team’s performance over the past 1 1/4 is due to Girardi in any meaninful way. I don’t particularly think Torre would have made this team play better at all. I’d guess it would be more or less the same. Girardi is fine as a manager. He’s fairly conventional and about average as afar as managers go.
I was simply illustrating the absurdity of saying that when two things are associated one has to cause the other.
So according to you it’s fine to blame Posada for the pitching staff and fine for you to argue that the team would be better off if Cervelli/ Molina were catching more but it’s completely wrong to argue (without any of those dreaded stats) that the team’s performance should be attributed to Girardi and that since the team clearly achieved more with Torre than Girardi it is Girardi’s fault that say they missed the playoffs for the first time in years?
The logic of both assertions is analogous. My eyes tell me that when Posada catches the team’s pitchers are worse than when Molina catches. My eyes tell me that when Torre managed the team the team won more and performed better than when Girardi manages.
7era…..Wow. So, its merely coincidence that our starters gets smacked around when posada catches them.
If you want to pick on Posada the numbers are there to….its simple.
Yes, Benny.
“So Kim Jones just said that Cervelli was matched with AJ on purpose to give him some more “comfort” and noted that AJ’s ERA with Po catching is 7+. Wow. Posada must be pissed.”
If AJ pithces very well today with Cervelli receiving, it will have a snow ball effect. Then there will be pressure to always pair him with Cervelli. If that happens and AJ continues to pitch well, it will create serious isues to Girardi on selection of catcher for each game. It will be no win situaiton for Girardi who is loyal to verterans just like Torre.
Haven’t we dispelled the myth that pitches are called from the bench?
When Cervelli caught CC’s gem in his major league debut, he and CC got together before the game and got on the same page. That’s where I heard that the game-calling was not from the bench.
Bruney is in K-rod’s head. K-rod’s officially a dope now.
I hope the Yankees respond to being punked on their own field. Just don’t bean anyone.
If AJ pitches well today… then he found his personal catcher.
CC can pitch to anyone. Andy can pitch to anyone (albeit, badly), Wang can pitch to anyone when he is right.
Burnett is the weakest link on the staff. If he needs a personal catcher to get him in a groove, so be it.
Agreed, Nick…it’s A.J.’s thing – that’s not on Posada.
I don’t think there will be any poor effect at all.
AJ wasn’t comfortable with Jorge from the get go. But Girardi purposely (and rightfully) went away from the personal catcher route. He even used the words “personal catcher”.
Let’s see if it works.
Yes, major league pitchers are supposed to be able to work with anyone. But AJ won’t be the first if he has a preference.
Andy was the one who said he didn’t want Ivan catching his games last year.
So, Cash – who I think had little input on the Stadium design and construction – is turfing questions on the new Stadium to Levine and Trost (who was the subject of a Journal News feature story on his control of the construction). Sounds pretty appropraite to me.
And if Eiland gave that answer, then it is an issue. But that doesn’t explain how poorly pitched two of the three games in Boston were.
People have to throw strikes. Period.
“I hope the Yankees respond to being punked on their own field. Just don’t bean anyone.”
If the team has any guts, they will.
Of course, if AJ takes them out of the game in the 2nd inning it may not matter. But it’s about time this team shows some toughness. They have been smacked around this week, on and off the field.
Johan today 9inn 3 hits 1 bb 0er 10k
Carl,
The entire Detroit staff hated him, that’s why they got rid of him.
incontrast Burnett 5inn 4hits 5bb 5Er 4k
AJ 2.1 innings 6 walks 0 ks 9er
The Yanks just have to man up. They have played like a bunch of sissies since the start of the Sox series. It’s starting to get embarassing to watch.
BBFan –
I think Moose set the trend last season with Molina. I like Posada and don’t think it’s fair that he’s getting the heat but if the pitchers are not comfortable with him it’s not good. Posada is a bat the Yankees need in the line-up, this can get ugly, I agree.
Lets be clear about something. I dont have a problem with Jorge posada. It just seems as thought pitchers have a problem getting into rhythm when they throw to him. I’m no pitching guru, but after listening to yankee postgames for years, almost every pitcher says that when they are throwing well its because they got into a good “rhythm” with the catcher.
“Johan today 9inn 3 hits 1 bb 0er 10k”
Wouldn’t be shocked. The team is in a major funk right now. Last thing they need to see is someone like Santana. Then again, they couldn’t even hit Penny and Nieve.
This pitching rotation came into the season projected to be bar far the best rotation in the game. By far. It wasn’t even close. It was also one of the highest paid.
It’s amazing how their enormous under performance is now everyone else’s fault except for their own.
The lack of accountability is remarkable.
It’s funny – AJ Burnett has a reputation as a guy who ruins the careers of pitching coaches.
We’re starting to see that here now.
It’s always the same story with him. He’s got so much talent, such a great arm whenever he underperforms (which has been often) it’s always someone else ’s fault – the catcher, the pitching coach, the manager, etc.
So tell me how this works, ………. you have such a bold prediction – do you now root for the Mets so you can be right?
CB, I have no issue with your last post. Reasonble people can disagree, I am ok with it. What i did not like is the high handedness you showed in your earlier note. In fact, you tend to do it often when you disagree with others point of view.
Having said that I do beleive that you do bring a unique persepctive to the discussion here. Some of us may not agree with your points, but that is what blogs are all about.
Carl,
Your an idiot. You can’t be serious with that prediction? I’m going to say AJ throws 7 innings with 1 run and 8 k’s.
“He’s always been on the DL, that’s all I really know right now. He’d better keep his mouth shut and do his job, and not worry about somebody else. If it was somebody big, I might pay attention to it. But somebody like that? It doesn’t bother me.
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Didn’t bother you? That is why you sought out Brian and shoved him on the field. Alrighty than.
KRod –
The guy’s a riot. Here’s a good thing though. When he closed out yesterday’s game he quietly left the mound. Maybe Bruney got into his head.
CB,
Yep. Burnett has been one of the biggest reasons that this rotation is scuffling.
Atleast Wang is coming off an injury and botched re-hab, he has an excuse.
Josh June 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Carl,
Your an idiot. You can’t be serious with that prediction? I’m going to say AJ throws 7 innings with 1 run and 8 k’s.
It was a Joke
“I learned to play the game a different way, that’s all I can say,” Bruney said. “You won’t see me do that, the way he acts. You won’t see that.
“… The guy is doing his job, he’s had a great career. He set the saves record. It doesn’t matter what I think. I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks that, but again, he doesn’t know who I am, so it doesn’t matter.”
“Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.”
there isn’t an outside strike available to lefities?
dave, i hate to tell you they aren’t firing the ball park and they aren’t firing the players( though some may go) so fair or not, you’d better teach your pitchers to use the outside part of the plate with lefty hitters and the inside part of the plate to righties or you’re going to be going , going, gone.
i can’t wait to hear the latest dave eiland excuse. if he was as good at fixing pitchers as he is at making excuses the yankees’ pitching would be leading the league.
Santana – 6.1 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 8 K
Burnett – 6 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 4 K
5-2, Mets
Don’t like Burnett matched up against the best pitcher in the league.
Lets go kick Johan’s butt!!
Dave Eiland has to be the first one gone.
Carl,
I’m surprised at you. I would expect such childish behavior of fatalistic predictions from an ellipse, but you?
m June 14th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Carl,
I’m surprised at you. I would expect such childish behavior of fatalistic predictions from an ellipse, but you?
You know how I am
get ready to be shutout by the best pitcher in baseball fellas
It’s amazing but the Red Sox have about 5 different relievers who we could put in our bullpen today and he would automatically become our set-up man.
Okajima, Delcarmen, Ramirez, Saito, and Bard all have ERA’s under 3.00, and I haven’t looked it up but I’m pretty sure Masterson has very good numbers as a reliever this year (like Aceves). And that’s not including Papelbon, who not only is a great closer, but can pitch more than 1 inning like Rivera used to be able to do.
Wait how am I supposed to get upset about K Rod when I defend Joba’s right to pump his fist? I am so confused.
“i can’t wait to hear the latest dave eiland excuse. if he was as good at fixing pitchers as he is at making excuses the yankees’ pitching would be leading the league.”
Amen to that – - – Pete laid out a pretty compelling case against Eiland the other day pointing out that no one on the staff can be said to have overperformed this year.
He’s probably safe for as long as we’re in 2nd place, but for all the good he did in the minors developing IPK, Joba and Phil it has not seemed to translate to the big club.
Fernando Nieve had no problem coming in here and throwing strikes against our vaunted lineup…. but our overpaid millionaires are afraid to?
K-Rod is a loser you didn’t see Joba get all upset when Huff mocked him.
LOL @ that video it was typical, K-Rod yelling and having people hold him back.
Contain David Wright and Carlos Beltran and we got this game
“The Yanks just have to man up. They have played like a bunch of sissies since the start of the Sox series. It’s starting to get embarassing to watch.”
Yeah and Posada was behind the dish for most of it. I’m becoming more and more convinced Posada is a problem. But then that becomes a big problem for the Yankees since Posada isn’t going anywhere.
Yankees since Posada’s return – 8-6. Posada caught all of the losses but 1. Interesting thing is that in one of them, he pinch hit for Cervelli, went in for two innings, and the Yankees lost the lead and the game.
Yankees when Posada was down – 14-8.
Bruney vs. K-Rod = a bunch of silliness or as Girardi said “boys will be boys.”
Bottom line, K-Rod is a top closer. Bruney is??? Maybe a set-up man for Mo.
“Don’t like Burnett matched up against the best pitcher in the league.”
Stranger things happened.
Santana will have an off day, yanks will win and take the series.
Back to my positive spin
Burnett has a 97MPH Throw it over the plate and see if they can hit it
Let’s see if TBS has the guts to talk about the K-rod incident.
RS,
Every reliever in the Boston pen has an ERA under 3. Papelbon, Saito, Bard, Delcarmen, Okijima, Ramirez, Masterson (as a reliever– maybe just a smidge over 3)
They completely own us in the bullpen. Phil Coke and Aceves wouldn’t even make their bullpen and they are our high leverage relievers.
Bruney should play this out.
Send a message to K-Rod via the clubhouse guy.
“This isn’t over blown save boy. Two weeks. Mano-Mano. Citi-Field. Under the Choo Choo Coleman banner. No weapons.”
“If AJ pitches well today… then he found his personal catcher.”
The Mets have what amounts to a glorified AAAA line up playing in half the line up spots.
If AJ pitches well getting to face Cora, Martinez, Schneider, and Murphy along with an aging Sheffield who is only playing so much do to injuries should have something to do with AJ’s success.
How low can the bar be set for AJ? Getting out this line up is a monumental endeavor?
That the mets scored so many runs the past two days speaks much more to the how bad Joba and Andy were rather than to their line up. They’ve been having trouble scoring since those injuries.
“Burnett has a 97MPH Throw it over the plate and see if they can hit it”
He did against Boston… and Ortiz and Nick Green smacked him around the ballpark. Ortiz hit a 2-run bomb on an 0-2 count off a 96 MPH fastball.
Joba- only gave up 2 runs, it was the pen that gave up all the runs.
jennifer,
Joba only gave up 2 runs, but he did not pitch well.
jennifer,
But that AAA lineup made him throw 100 pitches and took 5 walks against him in 4 innings.
Outside of Beltran and Wright, they are all bench players.
And before someone tries to minimize the role of a catcher, perhaps you can explain why AJ’s newphew went 4th in the draft. There are questions about his hitting so we know it wasn’t for his offense. Is it possible that not all catchers are made the same?
Randy said yesterday that he considered Posada an average defensive catcher. I have read that Posada isn’t very good on framing pitches. If that’s true he’s hurting both himself and his catcher. Then there are the pitch calls.
Unless there is some miraculous turnaround with Posada catching games and pitchers winning, I will respectfully stay with my position. Posada is hurting the Yankees. If there is some kind of miraculous turnaround, I will throw myself under the bus, the way I have been doing with my mea culpas for thinking the Yankees didn’t need Tex.
If it weren’t for his offense (which I think the Yankees really need), I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a lot less playing time.
the kid Bard is just Nasty the save he had 2 nights ago he threw nothing but 98-100Mph fastball and threw 1 breaking ball that K someone
Thank you God for Francisco Cervelli.
GO AJ!!!!!
“How low can the bar be set for AJ? Getting out this line up is a monumental endeavor?
That the mets scored so many runs the past two days speaks much more to the how bad Joba and Andy were rather than to their line up. They’ve been having trouble scoring since those injuries.”
Assuming this is correct, if AJ pitches well, he did better than Joba and Andy and one less probelm. He can build on it for the next start.
Bigelow
I don’t know, that doesn’t look like a glorified AAAA lineup to me.
“Burnett has a 97MPH Throw it over the plate and see if they can hit it”
burnett is the thinking man pitcher now that he has matured as a pitcher.
he can stink at low speeds as well as fast.
Burnett better throw strikes right from the get-go today. There’s few hitters in this lineup who should be able hurt him. If he can’t navigate through Cora, Martinez, Schneider, Murphy, Castillo, etc. with his stuff, then that’s a scary sign.
this year is still better than last year remember Sidney Ponson, Ranser in the rotation that was horrible
Whew – Cervelli really kept the ball in there.
Nick Swisher: Bi-Polar Rightfielder.
Nice Catch and took down the mets sign
Haha Swish. Always an adventure with him in the OF.
Did Leiter just say AJ threw a changeup?
Nice catch by by Swisher. Took a bad route to it, but caught it.
Swish!
That was almost out, Burnett pitching scared now!
“Wait how am I supposed to get upset about K Rod when I defend Joba’s right to pump his fist? I am so confused.”
You’re not.
Joba’s fist pump isn’t in the same league as K-rods. Give me a break.
“That was almost out, Burnett pitching scared now!”
Seriously, let’s hope not.
My predictions are wrong!
Work Santana’s Pitch count
Nice start for Burnett. Although this was the way Joba started his outing against the Mets as well.
AJ walks off thinking to himself “I like this Cervelli kid.”
“Assuming this is correct, if AJ pitches well, he did better than Joba and Andy and one less probelm. He can build on it for the next start.”
BBFan,
Let’s hope so. They need AJ desperately right now they really do.
And he can do it. He can go on a role where he’s just unhittable for months. The competition doesn’t matter.
He did the same thing last year. Was very poor the first half and lights out the second. Two different pitchers.
But for the team right now they need AJ to be good right now because Wang is lost and Andy possibly hurt.
They need him to put it together now. He’s arguably the most important guy on the team right now because with Wang so unsteady and Alex still slow from the hip, AJ is the guy who can make the biggest difference by upping his performance.
Cora almost hits it out and Burnett falls behind Martinez. Looked a bit bat shy there.
K-Rod-First he pumps both fist,then he yells and hits his chest,and finally Points to the sky and yells again
Joba-Pumps 1 fist and walks off
jen, I didn’t read Jeff NJ’s first post so I don’t know what he said. I do agree that KRod does the equivalent of a raindance on the mound. I find it mildly annoying but nothing equal to what I think about the entire glaring fish sequence by the fruitcake in Boston.
While I find that stuff annoying and worth making fun of, I have to admit it doesn’t bother me to distraction. I have never gotten upset with sylin at the plate and just don’t get the big deal.
But that’s just me.
Jeter shows Santana what he thinks of him hahah lead off single!
We cant be no hit
Nice job Jeter! I still remember last year when he hit a homerun against Santana that was an absolute bomb to LF.
That ball Swish caught was not almost out of here. You guys are cheering scared!
WTG, Jeter!
This was on my facebook, shows you how delusional Met fans are.
is loven K-ROD gett’n in Bruney’s face…who then p–s his pants….
randy,
i agree with you on eiland’s comment and his public comments in general. they are becoming tiring.
it sounds like the pressure of the job may be getting to him.
for him to blame the park is silly. that’s not changing this year unless it really is wind currents from the old park still standing being the cause. even that will change only slowly.
Work that COunt!
k-rod displays and joba fist pumps arent in the same league. k-rod has a choreographed show going on out out the mound. i cant think of another pitcher who comes close.
jeter should swipe the bag.
“Bruney should play this out.
Send a message to K-Rod via the clubhouse guy.
“This isn’t over blown save boy. Two weeks. Mano-Mano. Citi-Field. Under the Choo Choo Coleman banner. No weapons.””
LMAO!!!!!
For some reason I haven’t been freaked out about this matchup. Maybe it’s because Santana has been getting hit by the NL. His cloak of invulnerability has disappeared. Then there’s something about the Yankee psyche after they have been humiliated.
GO YANKEES!!!!!
Also, I’m a huge fan of Cervelli behind the dish. Cannot lie.
Damon’s eyes is still not right
Boy wouldn’t Johan look good in Pinstripes?
Worst non trade ever….
Wow. That 1-0 is going to be a strike for Johan?
“They need him to put it together now. He’s arguably the most important guy on the team right now because with Wang so unsteady and Alex still slow from the hip, AJ is the guy who can make the biggest difference by upping his performance.”
CB, I fully agree with you AJ’s success today is critical.
Also, I am hoping that Wang will do well against Nationals, a lesser opponent and improves from there. I think Wang has his stuff, he just needs to get his confidence back. That will minimise the impact of Pettitte’s troubles.
IRISHCARBOMB June 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Boy wouldn’t Johan look good in Pinstripes?
Worst non trade ever….
I guess im the only one who likes CC.
If you’re celebrating like that literally all the time like K-rod does, yeah it’s choreographed.
Joba doesn’t do that fist pump all the time.
Arod swings at first pitch, nice!
What was that? 7 pitches or so?
Yikes. Let’s go AJ.
I cant stand when derek just sits at first. You have to try and make things happen.
We need to try and manufacture runs when we get guys on base. Stolen base, hit and run, anything to at least distract the opposing team.
I’m sure NYY will come back today with this hack NYM have on the mound. The legendary Brian Bruney will set up Rivera, if he doesn’t twist his ankle running in from the bullpen.
if we had santana we wont have CC
Carl, I love CC.
Randy I didn’t read what Eiland said but Pettitte made it clear that he was nervous about pitching a certain way in the new stadium, so you can’t blame Eiland if he is quoting what Pettitte already said to the press. I don’t know if he referred to all of the pitchers.
Why don’t people realize that if we had Johan we probably wouldn’t have CC and Tex. Geez enough already!
KRod doesn’t do it all the time either. He sure didn’t do it yesterday. (That may be the first time he didn’t do it.)
I consider this a critical inning for AJ.
“If you’re celebrating like that literally all the time like K-rod does, yeah it’s choreographed.”
Most people feel that the fact that he’s a vastly superior pitcher to either Bruney or Chamberlain is a little more important that whether his celebrations are annoying to opposing fans or not.
watch the game on Wpix 11
YES is slightly behind, for me at least
cb-
i’m personally aware i’m on edge today because of the current funk the yankees are in, but that comment by eiland just really ticked me off.
the person in charge has to say this is what we’ve got. how to we make best use of it?
the pitchers need a leader to set the tone.
see nasty
AJ throwing nice hooks today!
“I’m sure NYY will come back today with this hack NYM have on the mound. The legendary Brian Bruney will set up Rivera, if he doesn’t twist his ankle running in from the bullpen.”
Uh, I’m pretty sure I read Bruney isn’t being activated until Tuesday. Good try though.
BBFan,
Wang and AJ are the keys to this team, IMO. Even more than the bull pen I think.
I don’t think they can win the division without both of them performing as expected (unless hughes has a big year…).
It’s so close talent wise between them and boston. Boston clearly has the better pen. The two offenses are close though I’d give the nod to boston as it might be less streaky (though worse on the road). The yankees rotation will need to be superior by a good margin.
They need Wang to be Wang and for AJ to look like he did the second half of last year.
Wang’s start on Wed can’t be over emphasized. If he doesn’t pitch well then they have the luxury of having hughes.
But nonetheless that’s a huge blow to the team – to lose an asset like Wang. Even if you can substitute for him you’ve lost a major relative advantage. Can’t just have arguably the best #2 in the AL disappear and not have it hurt.
Jobamania, YES is always behind for me. It’s because the satellite signal takes several seconds more to come through. (Unfortunately I don’t get WPIX)
NASTY Both Wright and Sheff Were fooled
Posada is crying on the Bench. JK!
Burnett looks like he has his great curveball today.
trisha, the game is on TBS also, u can try that as long as you’re not blocked out
question??? does AJ look as though he’s in a good “rhythm”
Looks like AJ is dealing and looks good.
Hopefully he can keep it for at least seven innings.
AJ….where have you been?!?!? we’ve missed you!!!
Thank you AJ,10 PITCHES that inning
It would be 4-0 Mets if Posada were behind the plate!
j/k
Man, Cervelli looks nasty today! Great framing. Strong signals. Nice tag on the Sheff strikeout.
I know, I know. I don’t want to jinx him. I’m no Michael Kay.
Carl- I love CC, but he isn’t on the same level as Johan.
When you can get the best arm in the game you gotta do it.
AJ is not afraid that sheff is slugging over .600 against him in his career
In rain dances, I might give the edge to KRod, but I’d pay for tickets to see a Bruney-KRod shoving match!
Nice block by Cervelli. Otherwise Chef would be at 1B.
“Uh, I’m pretty sure I read Bruney isn’t being activated until Tuesday. Good try though.”
But how can the Yanks win without the services of future hall of famer BRIAN BRUNEY?
“It would be 4-0 Mets if Posada were behind the plate!
j/k”
I’m not!
“Man, Cervelli looks nasty today! Great framing. Strong signals. Nice tag on the Sheff strikeout”
Oh yeah. (sigh)
Cubs canned their hitting coach today…..when do i see Yanks can pitching coach?!?!?!
IRISHCARBOMB June 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Carl- I love CC, but he isn’t on the same level as Johan.
When you can get the best arm in the game you gotta do it.
Its a long term investment on both sides. We have to wait years to see how these 2 compare. You cant go wrong with either imo.
“the pitchers need a leader to set the tone.”
CC is going to have to step into this role. He’s of such great stature – it has to be him complementing the quite leadership of Mo. Mo’s just not going to be the vocal guy.
That’s a lot to ask of CC but I think they’ll need him to move into that role.
I don’t think the pitching coach can do that. The pitching coach can hurt the team with comments like Eiland’s but I don’t think he’s going to be able to provide leadership on a veteran staff that is anchored by one of the 5 best arms in the league.
CC’s been great building chemistry and being a teammate. I love the guy. And when he goes out to the mound now he puts the entire staff on his back. But being a good teammate is different than leading and I think he needs to fill that void.
Wow, Cano takes the close pitches but swings at the ones in the dirt!
hell yeah robbie cano dont you know
That’s what frustrates us about you Robi
Lead-off double…will he score????
good AB cano. took about 7 pitches, went the other way. nice.
wait a minute…i thought cano cant hit 5th ?
Great start, a leadoff double, cause we always get that run in.
“But how can the Yanks win without the services of future hall of famer BRIAN BRUNEY?”
While he is likely not a future hall of famer I agree about the Yankees needing his services. As we’ve seen, he is the ideal set-up man for Mo.
Good catch on your part Jimmy.
Now why cant Robi do that when men are on….lol
“UPDATE, 11:55 a.m.: Francisco Rodriguez tried to confront Brian Bruney during batting practice today and was held back by Jose Veras. ”
If K-Rod didn’t know who Bruney was, how was he able to pick him out in order to confront him? More proof that he’s a liar and the loser that I said he was.
I love when Cano sprays doubles to all parts of the field. That was how he hit in ‘06 when he almost won a batting title.
I think bunting is a good idea…don’t know how many opps you’ll get with Santana.
Who the heck is managing this team? Phil Rizutto?
I hate him trying to bunt right here.
sac fly works too
“wait a minute…i thought cano cant hit 5th ?”
Geez, one hit and he should be there? Come on, man. He hit a homerun on Friday, I still thought he shouldn’t be there.
Nice job, Swish. Now all Matsui has to do is hit his usual groundball to 2B.
Nice job, Swish. Now all Matsui has to do is hit his usual groundball to 2B.
Either CC or Santana would be great. Santana’s better, but a little older.
The difference is one cost cash, the other cost talent + cash.
I think we’ll see that we made the right decision.
The bunt may have been his own idea……just like melkys was in Boston.
“Carl- I love CC, but he isn’t on the same level as Johan.
When you can get the best arm in the game you gotta do it.”
The whole trade would have amounted to Santana for CC, Hughes, Melky, and Marquez (who they traded for Swisher).
This team would be in an awful spot this year without Hughes and Melky.
They’ve been pivotal to the teams success, especially Hughes. You can call CC and Johan a wash, or give the slight nod to Johan if you want.
But Wang goes down as he has and there’s no Hughes this team is sunk in a division this competitive.
Jobamania, I just went to do it and then realized that it’s still satellite!
Actually I think I feel better about the YES broadcast so I’m happy I figured out that it’s the same difference!!!
Stultus – I’m with you. Cano is infuriating. He’ll have to have a torrid June – July just to make up for all his hacking the past 2 weeks.
What is the TBS broadcast? Is that a Mets broadcast? It sounded like Buck Martinez.
Can Melkman get it done?
Melky better think sac fly…no DP, Matsui can’t run for his life.
Laura,
His teammates told him look for the skinny dude with the maltese cross tat.
Come on Melky….a fly ball please
Trisha – TBS does a Sunday game of the week.
Scorpio,
Yeah, Cano’s lows are too low for too long. Scary.
That change is utter nastiness.
good ab by melky..not the result…
good change. dammit.
no way would you run Matsui there, figured a K was coming
That change-up was filthy.
This is why you don’t try to bunt guys over with this team. They are just absolutely terrible at getting in runners from 3rd with less than 2 outs.
You’d be better off just letting them take 3 cracks at getting him in than giving them 2 chanes, one of which is incredibly pressurized.
Melky slowly coming back to earth.
Youve got to change your evil ways… Johan
Before I(rish) stops loving you.
You’ve go to change… Johan
And every word that I say, its true.
Youve got no fast ball, or curve ball
You’re sinker ain’t down.
The NL East’s got your number
They’re running you down
This cant go on…
Lord knows you got to change… Johan.
J/K Irish!!!
Cervelli!
Cervelli!!
Way to go, Cisco.
YEA CERVELLI!!! leave it up to the rook!
Dreamy eyes does it again
Nice dinker Francisco
Better lucky than good!
Angel eyes!
Go Cisco!!!
CERVILLIS is earning major kudos
Devon,
maybe, but that was all Santana.
Nice job by Cervelli.
Come on Jete, work him.
And this was a guy who was hitting 190 in AA. Can explain someone explain how this is possible…
The eyes. The hands. The bat. The calls. The arm.
WE HAVE A FIVE TOOL PLAYER HERE!!!!
Please, NYYankees, keep this kid up. PLEASE.
Do you swing 3-0 on Jeter?
Santana throwing a lot of pitches.
Trisha,
It IS Buck. He’s one of the only tolerable broadcasters on TV anymore. He actually cares about the game itself, and not the teams playing. He wants to see a good game, no matter who’s playing.
Pitching around to get to the fatigued Damon.
Damon, grab a red bull!
good job Trisha.
Santana is throwing a long inning. Over 30 pitches so far.
Man that change is stupid
Nasty, nasty change.
“Angel eyes!”
sigh!
so the yankees show up for Johan…
Jeter!!
the captain!
Wow, Jetes.
“As we’ve seen, he is the ideal set-up man for Mo.”
If by “ideal” you mean better than what’s out there now, I agree. If you mean good enough that Cashman isn’t going to be desperately trying to acquire someone better for that role, dream on.
CAPTAIN!
That’s the way boys! Loving the small ball.
WOOT..nice hitting jete…come on johnny break it open!
“His teammates told him look for the skinny dude with the maltese cross tat.”
Not the bald dude with the maltese cross tat?
Rishi – don’t speak so soon. no jinxing!
Okay, we can’t get hits with runners in scoring position against junkball garbage journeymen…but Santana, one of the five best pitchers in baseball? NO PROBLEM!
I love how our hitters are getting to Schneider early and driving up his pitch count to boot!
Jeter two hard hit balls today.
Yankees are opening a can of whoop ass one Santana.
trisha, LOL @ the eyes counting as a tool
I guess the Yankees are awake today. Playing with more energy than yesterday.
Nice, Jeter. Always the Met killer!
This is the type of rally you need against a good pitcher like Santana. Tough AB’s, work the count full, string together a few hits.
sorry, Scorpio
just managed to get the Mets fans who came over for breakfast out of the house
We need to go for the kill now.
i feel a damon k coming….ugh
“I get it, Burnett needs to face teams from New York to pitch well. 22 pitches after two innings? That is usually two batters for him.”
Pete, Cervelli isn’t usually behind the plate when that happens…
(If you have any sway with Girardi, PLEASE advocate for personal catchers…)
Problem is that Cervelli likely gets only one day every five or there would be a firestorm the likes of which haven’t been seen since the Bronx was burning.
50 pitches for JOHAN!
Santana is a great pitcher but he’s such a different pitcher than he was in his heyday with the Twins.
He’s really not a power guy anymore at all. The slider isn’t nearly what it was before. He’s much more about changing speeds and location. He lives on the edges much more.
All pitchers have to go through a transition as they get older. Santana had to do that relatively early in his career. He’s done it marvelously.
But he’s not the same guy. Not close. He’s a very different pitcher.
YEAHH!!!
Joekuh -
Damon!!!
Haha what just happened with Damon.
oh well bad baserunning but good hitting…4 runs off santana is great…actually thats just bad umpiring?
Bad call, he didn’t shove the ball out of the glove.
YEssss
what a BS call!!!
lol at damon trying to take out Cora at second
NO WAY. He was in a full stride and trying to slow down, that is BS!
stupid blind ump!
damon channeling his inner al. no homeruns, yet we score 4. nice.
BS call from the ump.
That’s okay, Johnny. You got the desired result.
50 pitches in 2 innings. Maybe Sanata should have been a Yankee
BS that was no push, he’s in his way anyway
First A-Rod in 04 and know Damon – all it takes to knock balls out of gloves is to join the Yanks!! Just kidding!
these fat, useless umps really are awful.
Cora was in the Running Lane wasnt he? doesnt Damon have the right to run him over?
The ump is just listening to what Cora said. He didn’t even see it.
Sterling was a mess during that last call….like always he ended up confused.
Carl, that’s funny and not funny at the same time.
“I love how our hitters are getting to Schneider early and driving up his pitch count to boot!”
Schneider knew he had to step up his catching game today.
That’s a lot of pressure going up against ace Cervelli.
He knew, if he just once made eye contact with Cervy, he was a goner.
C- yes he does. As Kay say he can punt him into the outfield.
c’mon AJ – a quick inning here…
We need a 1-2-3 from AJ here.
I swear I just breathe better when Cervelli or Molina are catching. Cervelli does a really nice job of framing, no?
Damon should have clotheslined Cora, he was on the baseline, and the runner has the right to that path.
come on aj..you cant walk the lead off guy after getting a 4 run lead
and the Phillies take the lead
“I swear I just breathe better when Cervelli or Molina are catching. Cervelli does a really nice job of framing, no?”
trisha, I’m starting to think that Posada killed your cat or something. LOL!
Looked like a slap job to me.
Come on AJ stop overthrowing
Great, walk the leadoff guy.
AJ can’t deal with posterity…aargh!
Santanna threw 38 pitches that inning,AJ JUST 10.
The game is in AJ’s hands now. 4 run lead with Santana at 50 pitches.
No excuses now. He needs to stay aggressive and throw strikes.
Close to half the mets line up is injury replacements. He should go through those guys easily.
No lapses in concentration or loss of mechanics. He should be able to go 7 minimum today and bring this win in.
The offense has done it’s job against santana by scoring runs and running up that pitch count.
Starts here. Don’t let the mets score after your team puts up a lead against santana.
strikes aj strikes come on
Burnett is wild.
YOU CANT WALK A .200 HITTER (sorry for caps)
Burnett losing focus again, not a good sign.
Beautifully framed leadoff walk by Cervelli?
Eiland coming out to settle Cervelli down?
“We need to go for the kill now.”
And yet a lead-off walk…
Big change here – this is the first time Cervelli is catching AJ out of the stretch.
AJ better not blow this.
dude- it’s the bottom of the freaking line up
“trisha, I’m starting to think that Posada killed your cat or something. LOL!”
Laura, I’m not easily traumatized but when it happens it holds! The last Yankee player to traumatize me (other than Alfred E) was David Cone when he started his descent to baseball hell and Torre mindlessly handed him the ball every 5 days, until Saint George Steinbrenner stepped in and shipped his butt to Tampa.
Cisco punch him
aj you better get out of this inning
Bottom of the lineup killing Burnett.
Dammit- Tex could/should have had it.
Tex nooo
UNBELIEVABLE.
4 run lead and he walks the leadoff hitter, falls behind the next one, and sets up a huge rally for the Mets.
They BEAT THEMSELVES, plain and simple. All Burnett had to do was challenge the leadoff guy and not walk him, and what did he do? He threw a bunch that weren’t even CLOSE.
that was a good pitch though…way to back up your offense aj geez
AJ is a head case. His team gets him runs and then he starts pitching stupid. Unreal.
If Tex can’t get to the ball, it’s unlikely any 1B can.
Leadoff walks kill.
Yes AJ needs to keep focus. Otherwise he will shoot my theory to hell!
Please dont throw 80 pitches this inning.
Murphy is hitting .241. And Cervelli walks him.
Terrible catching. He should have framed ball 4 better.
There’s already a conference out on the mound after 4 runs. Cervelli needs to understand how to make AJ comfortable out on the mound. Terrible communication skills.
Falling behind. The old Burnett is coming back.
Go ahead give them the game back AJ
what is happening – it’s like a switch flips or something – same thing happened with Joba yesterday
change-up. CHANGE-UP!
please
Again Burnett can’t get the 8 and 9 hitters out.
Cervelli has completely lost the strike zone once again. Behind on counts consistently.
Cervelli just can’t repeat his mechanics or maintain focus out there.
nice job walk the base loaded up by 4….just fitting
Congrats to whomever had the third inning in today’s game of “which inning will AJ Burnett implode in”,
Burnett needs to show some variation, they’re just sitting on that fastball.
What are you doing?
this is unbelievable against a minor league team
this is unbelievable against a minor league team
Jeebus, Cervelli, stop thinking about what Posada would do, call your own game!!!!
i really cant believe this is happening..please tell me its not happening..please
That wacky Cervelli. Let’s put the theories to rest and watch what is happening to A.J. Burnett. He controls his own fate.
Way to step up, Burnett.
Whoever said “punch him” has the right f-ing idea. What a nut.
Welcome back, AJ Who-Can’t-Find-The-Strike-Zone.
AJ is a POS.
It may be too early to say that AJ was a bad signing, but it’s getting close.
BURNETT IS UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE.
4 run lead, and he walks the leadoff guy and loads the bases with no outs. ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS THROW STRIKES TO WEAK HITTERS, AND HE DIDN’T.
Burnett needs to stop making excuses and throw STRIKES. He’s being paid the big bucks and he walks the 7 and 9 hitters. COME ON.
give him 4 Runs and he’s ready to give it back
I’d settle for a 1-2-3-4 triple play here.
this is a joke
yanks just can not win with their pitching pick ups.
I guess we have already experienced flashes of greatness for today….now its back to the regular stuff.
Ugh.
Please tell me this isn’t happening. If this is what AJ is about (he needs to get some confidence back here, please) we are in major trouble.
video of swisher knocking down mets sign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdkrooQIIcU
40 pitches, no outs
get
outs
More balls from Burnett.
Way to go Burnett..
is this another free agent bust?
CB,
Amazing isn’t it? Sometimes, folks have to realize, if you are going to place blame, place it on the right pitcher.
4 run lead and AJ can’t throw strikes. Will kill you everytime.
Take him out now and go to the pen before he blows the entire lead.
At some point, we have to realize, the Yankees have one starting pitcher and that’s it. The rest of the guys can’t throw strikes, can’t give length, and can’t win games.
From Cora on, if they don’t take him out, they are staying too long with him. We’ve seen this act from him all year.
He can’t hold leads and he can’t throw strikes. Amazing.
This is sad.
The ballpark is a poor excuse why they walk guys. AJ has a 4-run lead, and he walks the leadoff guy. What the hell is that all about” If he hits a HR it’s 4-1. Now, that walk leads to a single, and another walk to Castillo.
For the Posada conspiracy folks. This is not a good inning for you.
Wow. Implosion in the making.
Is it so hard to throw strikes to guys like Murphy, Schneider, and Cora?
This is ridiculous. Burnett is going to walk in a run here, and then have to face Beltran and Wright in this inning.
Looks more and more Eiland is not a good pitching coach.
UNBELIEVABLE.
All they are doing is STANDING THERE. All he has to do is CHALLENGE THEM. And he can’t even do that.
He has a 96 mph fastball, WHY IS HE NIBBLING. Burnett has no guts.
“It may be too early to say that AJ was a bad signing, but it’s getting close.”
Tough to disagree with this.
He’s afraid of the zone. He has to trust his fielders.
Nick Green HR, Sox up 2-1
Throw a strike, even if they beat you don’t let them beat you by walking in runs!
unfortunately there is no bullpen to bring in…
42 pitches.
That was a gift
Back in the real world, AJ can get out of this with only one or two runs (or none) and we can all live with it. Johan shouldn’t go deep into this game.
What an A-hole burnett is. Your team gives you a 4-0 lead against one of the top 3 pitchers in baseball, and you walk the bases loaded with no one out. A-hole.
Burnett gets a mercy call.
BIG, BIG K there.
I think we just got a huge gift.
I like gifts.
Now we need a DP.
two gifts in a row
STFU Manuel
We might have gotten a little help from the umps in that AB, but I’ll take it.
We badly need a DP from Martinez here and not have to face Beltran in this inning.
Um, he didn’t swing. That was a gift.
STRIKES, Burnett.
strike this bum out
What would AJ be doing out there without the steady guiding hand of the back up catcher to move him smoothly through the game.
Imagine how bad things would be if that Posada were back there.
It’s amazing the barriers AJ has to overcome. His team only gives him a 4 run lead with Murphy, Schneider and Castillo coming up?
Gift call, now capitalize!
so the key is the catcher to get wide with the target? Burnett’s secret is revealed!!!
Throwing a breaking ball for a strike right after that is a huge swing in momentum for Burnett. Now if he can stay ahead of these hitters he is poised to hopefully bail himself out.
Wow…Yankees get another call???
Stop the press.
Damn it Burnett, throw friggin strikes.
one more aj!!!
All kidding aside, Burnett pitches with the intelligence of a short-season A ball pitcher, or maybe even a high school pitcher. At this point I have more faith in Brett Tomko than this guy.
Just like with Joba the other night, Burnett is showing that he can throw strikes when he wants to. So why then, does he not throw strikes early in the count and get ahead?
He’s stubborn and nibbling.
“Nick Green HR, Sox up 2-1″
I don’t remember Nick Green playing this well when he was with us.
2-2 and Burnett shakes off cervelli and strikes out the mighty Cora. That damn catcher keeps getting in the way of letting the pitching genius of AJ come through.
Another BIG K.
YES! one more AJ one more!!
come on buddy!!!!
Come on AJ!!!!!! AJ of Old doesn’t get out of this jam. This is a chance to prove himself. Come on. 1 more out.
48 pitches..
HUGE K! Now please don’t give up an xtra base hit to Beltran and erase all that good work.
Cervelli is thinking outside the catcher’s box. What a great job.
What in God’s name was Beltran swinging at?
This could be the whole game resting on this at bat. If Burnett can somehow get out of this without allowing anything, it could be a huge momentum swing in the game right after we scored runs off Santana.
If not, it could be a long game for our bullpen.
Martinez said that AJ shook off Cervelli in that AB.
Would he have had the courage to shake off the fiery Posada (we’re pretending that Posada wouldn’t have called for the right pitch in the first place)?
Cervelli just has those eyes that say “shake me off… you know you want to.”
what does a.j stand for?
WOW!
“I don’t remember Nick Green playing this well when he was with us.”
I don’t remember Nick Green playing with us.
Left field at Fenway can revive any righty’s career.
OH YA!! great calls by The umpire
Don’t worry – Green is a journeyman player – will come back to earth!
yea yea boy
Okay garbage start to the inning, but nice job of recovering.
GREAT JOB BY CERVELLI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice job! But next time do it without giving me a heart attack, okay AJ?
Burnett showing some guts there.
WHATTA GIFT that inning.
Still a bad inning for AJ. Ran up his pitch count and gave Santana a breather.
WE HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY GOD…i cant believe it
Enjoyable!
ok, AJ…Dreamy eyes saved your arse that inning.
Allan James Burnett
Thank god.
What is absolutely amazing to me is that guys like Burnett and Joba, who argueably have the best stuff on the team, spend so much time nibbling at the edges, as if they have fluff and need people to swing at perfect pitches to be successful. Both guys throw hard, have movement, and can throw multiple pitches as a strike. Why do they spend so much time trying to make the perfect pitch? It just baffles me, it really does. Joba and Burnett are by far their own worst enemies. They rarely get hit hard, but they put so many people on, you don’t need to hit them hard to score runs.
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what a freaking shock
Wow. Big trouble in the Bronx, but he got out of it. The mets can not pick up the breaking ball.
Let’s go, now’s the time to put the foot on their throats after they got nothing from that gift inning.
AJ FOR KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me say this. We have gotten screwed by umpire’s horrid calls so many times I lost count about one hundred centuries ago!!!
So thanks for the gift, ump. And the one with the next batter. AJ should kiss your ring because it gave him his umph back.
I love karma, even though there’s no such thing!
HA HA HA!
Brilliant job by Cervelli!
SJ44, if Posada was catching that inning, Burnett would of got burned and he would of been out of the game by now. There is no way that Burnett gets out of that inning with Posada catching.
Everything to like with Frankie Cervelli and all he’ll do is get better. He’s ahead of his time behind the plate.
Not a power guy but could develop into a good gap hitter.
I think that these guys are nibbling because they have let this notion of YS being a bandbox get into their heads.
He got good fortune and luck to get out of that inning.
A gift call on Cora and a line drive hit right at Jeter.
The Mets lineup is not exactly Murderers Row and AJ can’t get through it.
If they are going to keep him in the game, which is a mistake, they better find a way to score at least 4 more runs off Santana because AJ certainly isn’t going to hold this lead. We’ve seen it all year.
Doesn’t matter who catches him, he can’t repeat his delivery or find the plate on a consistent basis.
Maybe a botched call on that one strikeout but our inning ended due to a poor call in the basepaths. Not that calls are an eye for an eye but it does all seem to even out in the end in most games.
martinez made a good point. if you’re struggling with your fastball, throw a curve. makes you have to be on point mechanically. that was a little too high to swing on tex.
.240/.296/.387 with 2 HR/4 RBI in 75 AB with us.
AJ is very fortunate. That’s a good example of what I was referring to as the mets AAA line up.
AJ loses the zone yet again against the bottom of an order.
And who is up next? No hit Alex Cora and then 20 year old Fernando Martinez who had just been in AA.
No Jose Reyes to face with the bases juiced no outs. NO David Wright hitting second.
Buy the time Beltran gets up it’s already 2 outs.
A mistake to keep AJ in this game? Who are you going to bring in to pitch? The bullpen is shot right now.
With Posada catching, pitchers end up in the clubhouse sobbing in a fetal position with their uniform torn off. It’s sad but it must be true – I read it somewhere.
see how Johan throws these strike thingies?
Maybe Cora didn’t swing but like they say, it evens out, matsui was up in the same situation last week…bases loaded and ball 4 the ump said he swung when he CLEARLY didn’t. so it evens out.
Phils are useless.
“Cervelli has completely lost the strike zone once again. Behind on counts consistently.
Cervelli just can’t repeat his mechanics or maintain focus out there.”
Um, I’m not thinking this is entirely accurate!
I repeat, I just breathe better when Cervelli is catching games.
Well here they are with Santana at a high pitch count, and they are giving him 2 or 3 pitch outs. Burnett just had a long inning, don’t force him right back out there!
This offense sometimes just has the dumbest approach.
Sean,
Keep telling yourself that. You have no idea what you are talking about. The catcher has nothing to do with that inning.
I guess Cervelli willed the line drive from Beltran into Jeter’s glove or got Wolf to call out Cora on a horrible call.
Its nice to have opinions. Its better to have a clue.
You don’t have a clue when it comes to catchers.
I will say this if Cervelli can turn out to be Yadier Molina lite i would be trill….Montoro might want to find a new positon
SJ44, I do have to agree with you. Catching only helps up to a point. Eventually, if a pitcher is not pitching well, he’s going to get hit no matter who is catching him.
I just finshed reading the Sunday Morning comic section here at The LoHud..I see that Jorge is stil the featured topic…..It’s humor is wearing off….Love AJ’s arm, but really is frustrating…..I said last night that this in my view is a trun around game…..Beating a premier pitcher like Santana and then getting a fine outing from Burnett will right the ship as the sfter part of the schedule has finally arrived…….Tricia, I really thought you made great strides this season, but honestly you’re a demp that just does not exist….Posada like I mentioned when this all surfaced the other day, is 2 good seasons away from being a candidate for the Hall……
rmel June 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I will say this if Cervelli can turn out to be Yadier Molina lite i would be trill….Montoro might want to find a new positon
um no
CB, just wanted to say, great post at 11:30 (and SJ44 at 11:25) about this whole Posada silliness.
Everyone who is curious about this non-issue would do well to scroll up and read those posts.
“With Posada catching, pitchers end up in the clubhouse sobbing in a fetal position with their uniform torn off. It’s sad but it must be true – I read it somewhere.”
I had read the same thing. It was in Torre’s book but Tom Verducchi said that Torre convinced him to take it out because he always liked “Georgie”.
BOS is manhandling PHI. We lost 2 out of 3 against them. Make of that what you will.
The same J.A. Happ that shut us down is getting crushed by the Red Sox. Figures.
Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
June 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
“Nick Green HR, Sox up 2-1”
I don’t remember Nick Green playing this well when he was with us.
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Damned. It looks like Sybil and “her friends” have attacked the board.
Somebody test Nick Green’s urine and blood. And Ibanez while you’re at it.
I heard that one of the Mets players from AAA called up the press and said he didn’t like AJ’s fist pump.
jussss a bit outside
what the heck was that??
And we’re beating Santana who beat the Red Sox. Baseball is funny ain’t it.
boston winning 3-1…what are the phils doing??
“I guess Cervelli willed the line drive from Beltran into Jeter’s glove or got Wolf to call out Cora on a horrible call.”
Of course not SJ, don’t be silly. Cervelli had nothing to do with that.
It was Cervelli’s magic powers that made the umpire give AJ those gift strikes however. If Posada was behind the plate no way the umpire calls ball 4 strike 2. No way. It’s the tremendous respect the umpires have for an unknows AA catcher that got AJ through that inning.
Cano dove so early on that that he took himself right out of the play. That ball wasn’t hit hard, if he took another step and then dove he could have knocked it down.
FWIW, and I do remember Nick Green and always thought he did a credible job for us, I don’t think the pressure is the same when you play for the Red Sox. JMO
J.ose calls a better game than baby brother
“Damned. It looks like Sybil and “her friends” have attacked the board.”
I see that Grumpy Gus has arrived. What’s up, GB?
All Burnett has to do is get ahead of these hitters and they won’t touch him with his good stuff.
Yet, he can’t do even that. He has a 4-run lead, who cares if one guy hits a solo hr off you if you don’t set up a big inning?
Jose calls a beautiful game.
Here’s a problem I have with AJ, and hopefully this will work itself out, you can’t baby him through every inning. You know for sure that Posada isn’t going to do that. He needs to buck up, trust his stuff, and get the job done.
Last inning wasn’t enough.
Cervelli performs magic to get out of that bases loaded jam and what does he do?
He falls behind 3-1 to the lead off hitter for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Cervellis 32. Will he ever learn how to repeat his mechanics from one pitch to the other? Will cervelli ever stop over throwing? Will he learn to throw his change up?
John Sterling just said “the Yankees would love it…LOVE it if AJ can go seven.”
He’s at 61 pitches, John. I’m thinking that’s a pipe dream at this point.
Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
June 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
“Damned. It looks like Sybil and “her friends” have attacked the board.”
I see that Grumpy Gus has arrived. What’s up, GB?
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Actually, Laura, that wasn’t meant your you. I think Randy must have invaded my computer.
I was going to respond to your post on Green, but, got kidnapped.
Cisco punch him !
what is wrong with this guy???
Double play possibility gone.
I’d like to welcome the members of the lohud “We hate Cervelli so we will discredit him anyway we can because we are over 70 years old and therefore need to pay homage to Posada at every turn in the road” club. BBFan, you hit it right on the head before.
Meanwhile, forum honesty isn’t going to hurt anything boys since, you know, Girardi is going to put Posada into games so even if you give Cervelli grudging credit, psst – it won’t get back to Girardi.
Or don’t.
This is frustrating.
Burnett beating himself, driving up his own pitch count by refusing to challenge the bottom of the order with his 96 mph fastball.
If Burnett got ahead hitters would chase and help him get quick outs, but he pitches scared to a bunch of weak hitters WITH A FOUR RUN LEAD!
Burnett needs to stop coming out to the media and making ridiculous comments about how nothing is wrong and watch some video and see how bad his mechanics are.
Looks to me like AJ’s worried about getting the ball up too much, because EVERYTHING is low. He’s just trying to be too fine, and suffering from it.
“I was going to respond to your post on Green, but, got kidnapped.”
Oh, okay.
Cervelli would have blocked that ball better.
Oops, I mean… Molina. He blocks a beautiful ball.
Terrible strike to walk ratio.
Nick,
Thanks. BTW who was it that started the Posada Truthers meme? That is a good one.
Can you lay claim to that one? Or was that wave.
AJ has thrown more pitches than Santana.
Alan James is an enigma.
smh
Walk after walk after walk. He just can’t throw strikes.
Great arm, no command. That’s what creates drinking problems for pitching coaches.
Why is Burnett afraid to challenge hitters with nobody on and a four run lead? It’s unbelievable how little baseball sense he has. He must care more about his personal stats than the team winning the game, because there is really no excuse to nibble to the bottom of the order with nobody on and a 4 run lead.
Thank you God!
thanks JT
Nice play by Jeter there.
Tack on, tack on..
LOL at Sheff
thank you
Old man Sheff still has some fire, trying to take out Jete.
Yeah, Jeter can’t field his position anymore.
i hope aj is a cat cause hes gonna need all 9 lives…
Cervelli called a beautiful DP pitch there. Great job!
Thank you AJ!
Terrible scoring. How could they possibly call that a wild pitch when it could not have been the pitcher but had to be the catcher.
And since statistics are stupid and I should only believe what my eyes tell me I’ll conclude that Cervelli is terrible on balls in the dirt and terrible at blocking pitches.
Given that it would make no sense at all for a pitcher to throw balls in the dirt up 4-0 – none at all – I’ll conclude this is entirely the catcher’s fault.
Not sure why Jeter would smile at Sheff. Didn’t Sheff say that Jeter wasn’t “all the way black”? LMAO!
3 solid scoreless great AJ!
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Released by the Padres after terrible numbers in Double-A and Triple-A, Chris Britton has landed with the York Revolution of the Atlantic League.
He must lead all of organized baseball is frequent flyer miles.
Two hidden stories on that DP….
Jeter and Sheffield are no longer the pals they once were. I doubt Shef goes in that hard if they were as tight as they were a few years ago.
Tex’s stretch. May not seem like much but, that stretch got the DP. The guy is a great first baseman.
Remember all the arguments we used to have on here last year about first base not being a “need” defensive position? You are seeing now how that theory is all bunk with the play Tex brings to the position every day.
Riddle: how does a strikeout pitcher not throw strikes?
CB your srsly ripping dreamy eyes ?
It must be hurting some of you that Burnett is pitching well. I see it all over the board. You want him to fail because Cervelli is catching him.
The one “gift strike” hit the black according to TBS’s pitch track.
And we still have problem’s with it?
Swish should be batting behind Alex until someone gets hot.
CB,
Braggin’ on the nephew again….
He was just named First Team All-American by Baseball America.
The last 3 catchers to be named first team All-American have been Wieters, Posey and my nephew. All three went in the Top 6 in the draft and all 3 are from the ACC.
Best baseball conference in the country.
johan is pumping that 88/89 mph heat
“Jeter and Sheffield are no longer the pals they once were. I doubt Shef goes in that hard if they were as tight as they were a few years ago.”
No shock there. You know how Jeter is when people he considers friends talk trash about him. I’m sure he didn’t appreciate that “Jeter is all black” comment Sheff made a few years ago. He also might have been pissed with Sheff’s comments that Torre is a racist.
Why aren’t Jeter and Sheffield friends anymore?
Sean Serritella – I seriously hope you are being sarcastic. LMAO.
Posada lovers hate every scoreless inning AJ is putting up today.
SJ (if it’s really you), funny but for years on the NYTimes forum I screamed til I was blue in the face that 1B was an important defensive position and the guys there basically kicked my theory from here to China. I’m sure it was a guy thing there – the guys didn’t think of it, it couldn’t be true.
“Jeter is all black” should have been “Jeter isn’t all black”.
Scorpio
June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Riddle: how does a strikeout pitcher not throw strikes?
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Ask Nolan Ryan and Randy johnson in the first half of their careers.
CB: it wasn’t me. I think it was rconn23 (sorry if I got the precise handle wrong)
But it’s a very apt term for the level of ‘reasoning that goes along with that argument.
Trisha: Nobody hates Cervelli.
But why take a mean-spirited cheap shot at a commenter?
Matsui!!!
GODZILLA
GODZILLA
congrats, again, SJ – lots of great news for you all!!
It looks like there are too impersonators today.
It is better not ot post today.
GODZILLA!!!!!!!!
Haha, we are killing Santana!
hahahhahha santana!! c.c better pitcher
Godzilla strikes again! His detractors run and hide!
wow – just keep scoring runs
Atta boy Matsui! Nice shot to right
Uh-oh, 6-0.
Burnett turns into a werewolf now…
aj lead-proof yet?…we’ve seen it before
…90 mph front and centered
6th straight start the great Santana has given up a homer.
That wasn’t no cheapie HR either.
Sean,
You really think AJ is pitching well? I don’t. He’s pitching in good fortune.
He was given a 4, now 6, run lead and his pitch count is already too high.
He’s not pitching well at all. He’s just been lucky so far.
Granted, I’ll take it given the way the pitching has been this week. However, AJ is not pitching well at all today.
Let’s hope he doesn’t have another 30 pitch inning now that he has a 6 run lead.
Santana is not a big game pitcher.
As John Sterling says, “You can’t predict baseball.”
That sums it up today. One pitcher, arguably one of the two best in baseball. The other, struggling to get it together. And look at the score.
Yankees got Mo down by a no name pitcher yesterday and today they are killing the best pitcher in the NL
LOL, everyone is hitting off Santana!
nice hustle melky!!!
Johan Santana, welcome to the AL East…..SJ44,,,,What type car did Tony buy or is considering buying now that he’s a millionaire ?????
Santana is not long for this game.
Hustle double for Melky.
love those hustle doubles..
WDR w/ a so far solid outing in AA
It’s possible that Santana could be mentally out of this game now.
And to add to the point, they could do nothing against a Houston castoff. Go figure.
if the video of Krod and bruney online yet?
I’m going to turn to the Mets broadcast and see if they are on the ledge.
or a pumpkin rather…
Great hustle Cervelli!
CERVELLI!!!!!!!!!!!
Dreamy EYES
Cervelli is awesome.
i dont see how santana can be so good (minus today) with a fb that barely break 90..i know the change is good but the fb is what it is…
MURPHY!! LOL GO CISCO
CISCO!!!!!!
For those that are crying about the great Nick Green, you might want to look at the numbers again. He has rwice as many at bats, and other than a little higher average, the numbers are pretty colse. I’m sure Boston appreciates the 9 errors in 45 games, too.
“Granted, I’ll take it given the way the pitching has been this week. However, AJ is not pitching well at all today.”
His first two innings were actually good. His breaking ball was nasty. Once he got those runs, he lost it. The guy is a head case; plain and simple.
wow, I love it! Hustle hustle!
He has some wheels for a catcher.
Finally, it seems like weeks since the Yankees have played good baseball.
Posada would be about 1/3 of the way there
Cervelli is amazing. Just keep pouring on the runs, Yankees.
SJ44, I don’t feel that Burnett is pitching well. I was wrong. He’s winning is what I should of said. I wouldn’t doubt him giving up five runs. The thing is, I feel Cervelli helps him out of tough innings. It can only last so long however.
He has ***twice*** as many at bats
Schneider just didn’t bring his A-game today.
Or should that be his A-frame?
Oh oh…the Mets broadcasters deriding Dreamy eyes.
“I’m sure Boston appreciates the 9 errors in 45 games, too.”
GB, it’s probably just perception. It just so happens that every time I check the BOS score, Green did something. I’m sure he’s not doing anything when I’m not checking the score. LOL!
They are hitting Santana like he is an unproven outcast from the Houston Astros. Oh wait…
Sheff was always jealous of Jeter. He’s jealous of Jeter’s rings ,and looks!
Scorpio, I doubt that Sean was referring to you, but it is so obvious that “others” here are trying to find every way here but loose to discredit everything Cevelli is doing and any link people make to the AJ-Cervelli success today. That’s not TOO childish. But the parties don’t surprise me in the least.
Meanwhile, I have given Posada credit whenever he has had a good outing (it doesn’t happen often anymore unfortunately) and nothing would make me happier than to have him catch win after win after win behind the plate.
It’s so curious to me to see the hurt-feeling reactions you get here when Posada gets criticized.
Oh well.
I really miss Bronx Jeers. Anyone know where he is?
“Posada would be about 1/3 of the way there”
Posada would have hit a homerun…
“He was just named First Team All-American by Baseball America.
The last 3 catchers to be named first team All-American have been Wieters, Posey and my nephew. All three went in the Top 6 in the draft and all 3 are from the ACC.”
SJ,
That is just wonderful. Congratulations. First team all america is tremendous – first team all america coming from a cold weather north east program is an enormous accomplishment. Just huge.
Who was the last BC kid to be first team all america?
Tony must be giddy. Must be overjoyed.
I’m very happy for you and the family. His mom must be on cloud 9.
BTW – who was it that made him a catcher? Did you happen to have something to do with that? Catchers always have good stories about the person who made them put on the tools of ignorance.
Jeter!
Seven earned runs for Santana.
man i love this…i feel so good right now..so good
Jeter is the freaking man. Wow i love you
Wow, Santana must be mailing it in today. You wonder why.
It ia amazing for a catcher how many infield singles Cervelli has.
It has nothing to do with his game calling
woooooooooooo!!!
WOWEE!!!
Mets are having one of those awful days that we’ve seen happen to the Yankees at times.
AJ not only can not afford giving up runs, he also needs to go deep in the game, to give a break to our overexposed bullpen.
Well, he can afford to give up a couple.
But he better lasts 6 or 7 innings.
No leave him in.
He’s no CC!
“This is the most runs Santana has given up since coming to the Mets, his WORST outing as a Met” – Ron Darling (I think)
Santana is obviously a very good pitcher, but we needed that.
Well, I had this pegged all wrong. I thought we’d win yesterday and lose today. Didn’t expect such a hitting showcase against Santana. Goes to show that you can never predict baseball on paper. As Jeter always says, you have to play the games to see how they are going to turn out.
Did Fernando Nieve and Johan Santana Switch customs? Man we hitting Sanatana like he is a Minor LEaguer
Congrat’s SJ. Its been a really exciting week for your family, hey?
I’ve seen a few interviews with Tony, seems like he’s got a good head on his shoulders, along with his baseball talents.
A-Rod will go deep maybe
it is 7-0 
“It’s so curious to me to see the hurt-feeling reactions you get here when Posada gets criticized.”
Trish are you really surprised? First this is LoHud where people get offended at ANYTHING.
Second, Posada is old guard and has done a billion things before Cervelli had pimples.
Third, many believe your judgment is skewed because you like his sexy eyes…
Bye bye, Santana…and it’s possible to like Cervelli and Posada. Just like you don’t have to pin Jeter against A-Rod – there’s no war here, they play for the same team. Your team.
Pat M.
June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Johan Santana, welcome to the AL East…..SJ44,,,,What type car did Tony buy or is considering buying now that he’s a millionaire ?????
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I’m guessing he’ll pull a Joe Pepitone. A big, red Pontiac Bonneville convertable and a speed boat to pull behind it. Either that or he’ll lay low and drive into his first camp in a 1981 yellow Yogo.
OMG the Yankees got to Great Santanna.Talk about run support,no excuses AJ.
GreenBeret7
June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Scorpio
June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Riddle: how does a strikeout pitcher not throw strikes?
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Ask Nolan Ryan and Randy johnson in the first half of their careers.
GB7 –
I was just trying to be snarky abt AJ but I get your point
The Yankees are comfortable with pitchers they’ve seen before. The unknown knocks them out of their rhythm.
Trisha — Charter member of the Kei Igawa fan club. OH and Kyle Farnsworth hasn’t forgotten your dilligent work at protecting him from such meanies as SJ44, CB, GB, and Nick in SF. Seems like you pick a stance and refuse to move from it no matter how little evidence there is to support it.
Reminds me of –http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU
Damon!!!
Magnus,
“Posada would have hit a homerun…”
Not only HRs put scores on the board, hustling infield hit also does. And that is what matters.
SCORE AND WIN!
Still no outs. You know what this means? AJ will walk the first 3 guys. LOL!
cervelli runs very well for a catcher. didnt see that until now.
Anyone thing Johan is hurt, I mean yhay didn’t look like him…IDK
think we get an angel berroa sighting today?
Damon!!
I’m not impressed with his stuff. I know some think he’s the best pitcher in the majors but I don’t see it.
His velocity is upper eighties low nineties now unlike when he was with the Twins.
If I had to chose I would go with Halladay over Santana.
“It’s possible that Santana could be mentally out of this game now.”
It’s possible that the cather is mentally out of this game and that’s the whole problem.
It’s all Schneider’s fault.
The Met disasters continue.
Things are going our way.
Perfect time for A-Rod slam
Whoa crazy game. I just checked in to see Santana getting whacked.
I guess it’s true what they say about baseball, “You never know.”
Tex!!!
LOL, God not wants Mets to win today!
Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
“I’m sure Boston appreciates the 9 errors in 45 games, too.”
GB, it’s probably just perception. It just so happens that every time I check the BOS score, Green did something. I’m sure he’s not doing anything when I’m not checking the score. LOL!
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Well, for God’s sake, girl….STOP CHECKING…
Pat M,
Funny you should say that! lol
I gave him his budget this morning. In contained money for 3 cars. One for him, his mom and his sister. Total amount for the cars are well below what one would think when it comes to choosing cars.
I also gave him what his monthly allowance will be. A little more than the average college grad would get in his first job but, WELL less than what others would think.
He looked at it, said, “Great, I like it”.
We’ve talked a lot the last few days about money. I retired at 36 after selling my firm, got the bug to work again 10 years later, and have been consulting for the last several years.
He has seen how I handle and manage money and understands that I have one fundamental rule when it comes to money:
Its better to be at the top of a certain lifestyle than at the bottom of another.
For a 21 year old kid, he’s going to have a nice car (he wants to wait until Fall to get it), nice clothes to wear, and some money in his pocket.
The rest will be conservatively managed.
Its my new “job”, handling his money and his day to day activities. Happy to do it.
Thank goodness for the Mets.
Here comes A-Rod with the junk time grand slam!
Brandon — welcome to Johan Santana 2.0. higher age lower velocity.
lol alex almost hit into a triple play!~
What the hell was that?
almost a triple play!! omg he sucks
Wow, thank god. Could you imagine if A-Rod kills the rally with a tripl eplay?
Thank god he hustled…
“Magnus,
“Posada would have hit a homerun…”
Not only HRs put scores on the board, hustling infield hit also does. And that is what matters.
SCORE AND WIN!”
No kidding, I was making a joke. Posada’s not fast and wouldn’t have made that but he has 100% more of a chance to jack that out.
That’s all.
…or that. Bah.
only alex would potentially hit into a triple play.
Damn, I guess ARod doesn’t make history today. He could have made a triple play!
Santana in 90-93 on good days and 89-91 on bad days @ 30. What is this guy going to be like in 3-4 years?
Sabathia, Hughes, Swisher, Melky > Santana
We crushed Santana. WOOOOoooo!!
“I’m not impressed with his stuff. I know some think he’s the best pitcher in the majors but I don’t see it.”
Agreed. I think he’s fortunate to have been traded to the NL when he was.
CC’s stuff is better – by a considerable margin.
And there’s no comparison between Santana’s stuff and Halladay’s. None.
At this point Santana’s only true plus pitch is his change. Now that’s one of the greatest single pitches in recent baseball history.
But it’s still only one pitch.
I don’t know how well he’d do in the AL East. He’s still be terrific but not nearly what he’s been in the NL.
“Well, for God’s sake, girl….STOP CHECKING…”
Trust me, I’m not looking anymore.
Trisha, I can only speak for myself, but it doesn’t hurt my feelings one iota to see you or anyone else criticize Posada. Sometimes the criticism is warranted.
This is a baseball forum and one of the things I like to do here is help knock down bad ideas and poor arguments. More often than not I do it with satire.
I think Cervelli is great. If you think I hate him or have anything against him, then you’ve completely missed the point.
CANO!!!
Cano SLAMS one.
What a difference a day makes.
Well, this should be a game that AJ can’t blow, right?
I LOVE IT…i am a truly happy person
Makes you wonder if AJ ever comes back on the field.
He is probably doozing off right now.
I love hearing your stories, SJ – great to see things working out so well for Tony
7 run inning. WOW. But AJ has been sitting for awhile…good or bad?
CC is thinking…where were the runs the other night?
Even Burnett can’t blow this one. I think.
“It’s possible that the cather is mentally out of this game and that’s the whole problem.
It’s all Schneider’s fault.”
CB, I understand that your feelings are hurt but pitchers themselves say they don’t like Posada catching them. I wish we could dump Posada right now when Molina comes back. Let two defensive catchers work our pitchers. We have enough offense.
SJ,
Congrats to you Tony. Your whole family should be proud. I actually caught some of his interview on FSN Pittsburgh the other night during the Pirates game. I caught it on the MLB Game mix on DirecTV. He sounds like he’s a good kid with a good head on his shoulders.
The yankees are giving aj enough room to give up 7 runs if he pleases..
I still don’t bat him 5th…;)
Burnett’s arm is now stiff
Scorpio
June 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
GreenBeret7
June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Scorpio
June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Riddle: how does a strikeout pitcher not throw strikes?
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Ask Nolan Ryan and Randy johnson in the first half of their careers.
GB7 –
I was just trying to be snarky abt AJ but I get your point
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I didn’t mean it as a cutting remark, just answering the remark without checking for how it was written. Ironic though, that it was Ryan who fixed Randy Johnson in a game while Johnson was still in Seattle.
holy crap – can AJ keep his stuff together
This whole game is a result of Cervelli’s big hit there with 2 outs and runners on the corners.
The offense has been scuffling lately and that huge hit to pick up Melky turned around the entire mindset of the team.
Sometimes that’s all it takes. One big hit to energize a team.
Swish 2 walks in 1 inning.
SJ,
Congrats to you and Tony. Your whole family should be proud. I actually caught some of his interview on FSN Pittsburgh the other night during the Pirates game. I caught it on the MLB Game mix on DirecTV. He sounds like he’s a good kid with a good head on his shoulders.
Was Nick walking out to the mound? LOL!
I bet aj walks at least 2 next inning
The never ending inning…i like it.
how long has this inning been ?
“Third, many believe your judgment is skewed because you like his sexy eyes…”
OUTED!!!!!
Stultus, I like Molina equally and it’s got nothing to do with the eyes.
9 ER for Santana. Or maybe it’s 5 for him and 4 for Schneider.
long inning wait for AJ.
With such a cushion, let’s see if Burnett realizes that all he has to do is pound the strike zone and keep the bullpen as inactive as possible. Being cute with pitches serves him no purpose.
santana’s era is a healthy 3.29 now
Yeah, I’m not expecting AJ to be too sharp when he comes out.
That 2-out hit by Cervelli was huge. It gave the Yankees a lead and relaxed the hitters, who were all embarrassed yesterday.
too long – time to get AJ back out there or he might just give them all back
Stokes’ got nothing.
“Stultus, I like Molina equally and it’s got nothing to do with the eyes.”
Is it his barrel-chest?
Kei Igawas brother is warming up for the Mets.
Cisco was the difference in this game so far, I say that b/c AJ makes me nervous.
Melky barely misses a 3-R HR.
What’s with the bad baserunning?
I was going to ask was he getting someone to manage his money for him SJ, but I thought that would be kind of tacky to ask given that the $$ of the money he signed for is public knowledge. Good to hear it someone with good idea about money who only has his best interests at heart and will look after it for him.
He’s worked hard and sacrificed a lot for that signing bonus. Its really nice to see that he can reap the rewards of it, and also share it with members of his family too.
oh Melky – we just neede the inning over anyways
lol melky!! who cares…this is great!!! can swisher pitch ahhahah
Can you imagine if AJ can’t get out of the fifth inning? That would be crazy.
If Burnett can’t win this game with a lead like this, then there is nothing to be said.
Mama flippin mia!!!
It’s good to see NYY hit a quality pitcher like this. They’ve been on the back end of these a few times this year.
At 13-0, I can laugh at that. Melky JUST missed a three-run blow.
I know it’s nitpicky with 13-0 on the board but Johnny & Melky should not have been so aggressive and be tagged out like that.
The Yanks need to go for the jugular and not give easy baserunning blunder outs.
Melk man!
Laura,
Melky probably thought it was gone, but decided to try and stretch it at the last minute. 13-0, can’t fault him too much.
The Mets probably woke up this morning thinking that they had this game in the bag.
Hey Everyone!
Just got in from 10 a.m. Mass and brunch with friends.
So, this is why the don’t play the games on paper!
i say let burnett go 100 pitches can abuse tomko and veras..its the thing to do!
Melky got thrown out on purpose because he didn’t want AJ to rot on the bench.
yikes..13-0
“I know it’s nitpicky with 13-0 on the board but Johnny & Melky should not have been so aggressive and be tagged out like that.”
For AJ’s sake, I don’t mind.
CB,
10 years ago last month, I bought him his first set of catching equipment. It had the knee savers on them.
I set him up with Bobby Ramos (now the bullpen coach for the Rays) for catching lessons. Bobby, a great, old school guy, saw the knee savers and said, “they are gone next year”! lol Sure enough, they were.
He worked with him for 3 years until he got back in the game. He then worked for 4 years with Pete Griftol, now the Farm Director of the Mariners.
He never missed a 7 am catching class, followed by a 10 am hitting class for 6 years. They were great with him and he worked his butt off to reach this point.
He is the first baseball All-American in BC History. In fact, the SID called him the night of the draft and said, “How does it feel to be the highest drafted BC athlete not named Matt Ryan (he went #3 in last years NFL Draft) in the history of the school”?
That blew us away.
On top of it, he was named Scholar Athlete of the Year at BC and has a 3.6 GPA. He’s 21 credits short of graduation and the Pirates will pay for the rest of his education at BC.
Interesting aside……The Pirates had no problems paying for his education. They however, wanted it to be at Pitt ( I think they must have a deal with the school) and not BC.
We said “No” and that took some time to work out.
In the end, they agreed to our terms and will pay for him to finish at BC at a later date.
Too bad the sox are winning. At least the jays are losing. 3 games up on the wild card if things go the way their supposed to.
Is there any link to the video yet?
I’m so glad that all those people who conceded this game yesterday due to it being Santana were wrong.
900 pitches for Burnett, according to the scoreboard at YS.
What is the ballclub’s ERA w/ Posada in vs the other Yankees’ catchers? I’m assuming there is a big difference between the two.
“Is it his barrel-chest?”
It’s actually the way he whips the ball out of his glove and lasers it to the bases to throw runners out!
“Is it his barrel-chest?”
It’s actually the way he whips the ball out of his glove and lasers it to the bases to throw runners out!
With a 13 run lead and two outs, it’s not a bad time to be taking a chance on getting an extra base hit like a triple.
Barring unexpected total collapse, we should win this game.
That is two out of three and we are taking the series. That is what every one expected with Santana pitching in the series. It did not happen the way it was scripted, but it still happened – taking the series.
Mission accomplished
Now on to Nationals and building on this success…..
I still wish it had been Hughes starting.
” I wish we could dump Posada right now when Molina comes back. Let two defensive catchers work our pitchers. We have enough offense.”
sean-
do everything you can to preserve all your brain neurons.
you may be running a little low on them.
Man that was weak between Bruney and K-Rod.
Wow.
Just got in and it’s 13 – 0!
Only one question.
Who missed the extra point?
and AJ settling down – it’s nice to see
They finally found a good reason to have Veras on the team. Peacemaker!
the most runs we score this year is 13 how about scoring 20 runs
SJ, It appears that Tony has a good foundation which will only enhance his success……I wonder how many will see that Cashman did the right thing in not trading Hughes, Melachon and Kennedy for Johan….Plus they still have CC as well…..
Angel, this was one I definitely got right!
“trisha – OPPC lifetime member
June 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
For some reason I haven’t been freaked out about this matchup. Maybe it’s because Santana has been getting hit by the NL. His cloak of invulnerability has disappeared. Then there’s something about the Yankee psyche after they have been humiliated.
GO YANKEES!!!!!
Also, I’m a huge fan of Cervelli behind the dish. Cannot lie.”
Quick inning from Burnett.
Cora with a lame hustle effort.
“I know it’s nitpicky with 13-0 on the board but Johnny & Melky should not have been so aggressive and be tagged out like that.”
Johnny wasn’t being aggressive. He was standing on second, and wasn’t sure if the ball was going to be caught, or drop in, so he waited close to the base. He got tagged out when he should have been running to third, and then Tex got double off at second. If Johnny HAD been running, it still would have been a double play, just with a man on third instead of on first, and Cano’s homer still would have counted for two. We lost nothing there.
Melky, on the other hand…Yeah. No idea why he was running to third. Maybe he thought the ball went over Beltran’s head. I hate the guy, but give him credit for playing that off the wall incredibly well.
mrblack A-Rod almost hit into a triple play that inning.
Philly has 2nd and 3rd one out in the 5th inning with Rollins at bat.
“Cora with a lame hustle effort.”
That’s what the Mets do best!
Did someone fit Sean with the GetSmart Cone of Silence?
Better check its not airtight, cause it seems like its depriving him of oxygen or something.
Wow. Is that how you’re going to play it, Cora.
Look, I know your team is losing 13-0, but that doesn’t mean you sulk at the plate and whine like a baby. You play hard, and hope your team gets a few breaks. You don’t GET those breaks if you don’t keep playing. That’s absolutely disgusting to me.
Who knew Jose Veras could be Switzerland?
Nothing like scoring 9 runs in an inning and then backing that by a 1-2-3 performance from your starter.
3-3 for Cervelli!
Derek Lowe getting hammered in Baltimore today with 7 ER in 2.1 innings. One day respite from “should have signed him instead of AJ.”
man – just LOVING that Cervie
Hi Doreen – Hope you enjoyed your brunch (my favorite meal!).
Maybe this game gets both the pitching and the team back on the right track. Sometimes you need a laugher to relax you. They have way too much talent for what happened this past week.
Athletic performance can be such a fragile thing.
CERVELLI!!!!!
Catches, hits, frames pitches, calls games, and has GORGEOUS eyes.
loving cisco…
Great inning for AJ after the long inning by the Yanks.
Wow, Cervelli continues to impress. I’m trying to catch up on all the happenings by reading backwards here.
Hope the KRod/Bruney brouhaha has run its course.
“10 years ago last month, I bought him his first set of catching equipment. It had the knee savers on them.”
That’s what I was guessing. I figured it would be you who steered him in that direction given the opportunities it could open up in the future.
You should be proud. Few big league catchers every just take up the position on their own. It’s usually a function of someone else’s forthought and vision (best example is the Molina’s dad I guess).
And vision and of course Tony’s skill and hard work have paid off.
What’s so great about the situation now is his probability of playing in the show. I’m sure you’ve thought about that and are trying not to get ahead of yourself so I’ll do it for you!
What are the questions that pop up with catchers when they’re drafte? First – will he stick at the position? Check with Tony. Second – can he handle a staff? Check. Third – can he field the position – Check. Fourth – can he hit enough to stick.
He’s got so many of the prime variables answered already. It’s very promising because his floor is so high for that position.
“He is the first baseball All-American in BC History. In fact, the SID called him the night of the draft and said, “How does it feel to be the highest drafted BC athlete not named Matt Ryan (he went #3 in last years NFL Draft) in the history of the school”?”
I was figuring he might be the first BC first team all america because playing in the north east is tough. But the matt ryan thing is remarkable.
He must be ecstatics. Good that you’re managing the money!
Yankees pouring it on.
LOL Coney
how young is cervelli???
4-4 for Jeter! No hits for Arod (or Tex) yet. Think we might see Berroa at 3B today?
Cervelli Jeter oh my
Heh, you sure did, Trisha.
“Who knew Jose Veras could be Switzerland?”
Hopefully, President Obama sends him to North Korea or the Middle East. If anyone knows what a bomb looks like it’s Veras. He’s thrown enough of them.
4-3 Boston in the 5th in Philly. Phillies have a man on 1st 2 outs and Utley up with Howard on deck.
can someone please explain to me why cervilli is hitting the ball so well in the majors?? this is a guy who hit 190 in aa.
Pat M,
Funny story…..
Day after the draft, I get a call from his mother.
She tells me there are 5 big boxes in front of the house and they are all filled with various types of Pirate merchandise in all different sizes.
She said, “Can you call the Pirates”? They may have made a mistake and sent the wrong boxes. There is too much stuff”! lol
So, I call the GM and tell him what she said. We are cracking up on the phone!
He calls her and assures her it wasn’t a mistake and she is welcome to give out as much of it as she wants! lol
The great thing about Tony’s mom is, she is refreshingly naive about this entire process. It makes it all the more enjoyable when you aren’t faced with unrealistic expectations from a parent.
Its really been an amazing week for our family.
He will be in Charleston WVA to make his pro debut Friday night for his new team, the West Virginia Power.
I made a mistake earlier. Tex does have a hit today. Arod doesn’t.
Go PHILLIES!!
“how young is cervelli???”
23
Cisco up to .309.
5-4 Phillies Howard with a 2 run double off of Beckett
You think they’ve noticed 13-0 yet on the scoreboard in Philly?
3 hits for Super Cervy.
I was thinking they might pull him and save his superior catching techniques – (and let Posada do the mop up duty) – but tomorrow is an off day. He’ll be rested for Tuesday.
I’m still stirring about the reaction to Friday nite’s win, YES interviewing ARod after the win, I swear I need to apply for Kim Jones’ job, and I wouldn’t ask the dumbest most obvious questions in the world.
Philly must have seen the score on this game. They are making a push.
“can someone please explain to me why cervilli is hitting the ball so well in the majors?? this is a guy who hit 190 in aa.”
he was hitting .300 the yr. before in AA, Long shortened his swing and made him get use to hitting w/ his lower half, he’s hit the ball hard more consistantly since that.
Good to see Beckett being knocked around.
yeah Phillies!! beat those damn Sox and then when you do, let’s have a conference call so you can tell us how you do it! lol
Let’s put Veras in now and lose this game!
What a “surprise”. Cervelli is catching and the Yankees are winning. Cervelli has proved my point from early on. Hes a better defensive catcher than Posada and calls a better game. Thats all the Yankees need.
“You think they’ve noticed 13-0 yet on the scoreboard in Philly?”
One of my good friends is at the game. Let’s just say from the last text I got from him, they’re drinking to the Yankees success (or Mets failure to be correct), and now the Phillies rally.
SJ44
June 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Pat M,
Funny story…..
Day after the draft, I get a call from his mother.
She tells me there are 5 big boxes in front of the house and they are all filled with various types of Pirate merchandise in all different sizes.
She said, “Can you call the Pirates”? They may have made a mistake and sent the wrong boxes. There is too much stuff”! lol
So, I call the GM and tell him what she said. We are cracking up on the phone!
He calls her and assures her it wasn’t a mistake and she is welcome to give out as much of it as she wants! lol
The great thing about Tony’s mom is, she is refreshingly naive about this entire process. It makes it all the more enjoyable when you aren’t faced with unrealistic expectations from a parent.
Its really been an amazing week for our family.
He will be in Charleston WVA to make his pro debut Friday night for his new team, the West Virginia Power.
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Not bad…starting out in the Sally League. Don’t be giving away any pitching reports on the Charleston kids.
Congrats to your nephew, your family and you, SJ. Hope he moves up fast.
SJ, I’m certain that she was all about the sheepskin and that baseball was the vehicle to get it……Now of course the family’s lives have been altered forever……I did read that piece on Ross and his comments to Tony, great stuff…I think he’ll be playing at PNC in 2 years….
The Yankees better not make the same mistake with Cervelli as Dioner Navarro.
You have a potential catcher of the future, better hang onto him with Posada getting old.
Wow, I take the dog for a long walk and come home and we’re up 13-0 v. Santana. I must be a bad luck charm.
Matt, couldn’t agree more with your comment. It’s so important to jump ahead, and to do it with a clutch 2-out hit really seems to lift the pressure. Cervelli has been amazing. And AJ!
SJ :
No doubt Tony will be a spring training invitee in Bradenton and the Pirates usually go to Steinbrenner Field twice each spring so Tony could be behind the plate there as he moves his way possibly to AA Altoona then on to Indy.
Al, go get some of the Hudson, EL Nino nice seeing ya at third
wonder who else will be “lifted” for rest of the game?
Was it the serene confidence that catcher Cervelli brings that allowed the Yankee offense to relax and pounce on Johan Santana?
AJ throw the damn change up
Beckett homers, yes, Josh Beckett homers off of Happ. Phillies and Boston tied at 5
josh beckett hit a HR
Josh Beckett hits a homerun to tie the game!
I hate Josh Beckett.
Wow Beckett hit a bomb in Philly.
New D.H.? LOL
Nick, I will break my “ignore you” code to post this but if you really want peace you won’t feel the need to belittle the post or try to make humor of it at my expense.
People here have the right to feel Posada is hurting the team, the same way other people have the right to feel that Posada is nothing but good for the team. When people like CB come on with his overbearing “excuse me but I said it didn’t I. What are you peons stupid?” attitude and then continues with a childish parody because someone has the nerve to dismiss what he says, it certainly doesn’t help. It also doesn’t help for you to refer to it as “the Posada silliness.” Though you may not mean it to be so, that appears both condescending and dismissive.
That you, Pat M, SJ and others really believe in Posada is fine. Randy also, though Randy did term him an average defensive catcher. I’ll be honest and tell you that if Posada weren’t as much an offensive force as he is, I’d feel pretty good about seeing less and less of him.
I believe there is a huge problem with Posada and I think Posada’s strong personality may have a lot to do with it. That’s just my opinion. For those of us who feel there is a problem with Posada, we feel it is a big problem and it hurting the Yankees. That’s the way we feel. This blog is for opinions.
I have never called the other side of any issue “silliness”. I will always say that I respect the opinion of the other side and that I just don’t agree with it. I don’t see why there has to be a firestorm of condescension and nastiness headed in the direction of those who don’t believe in Posada. And if we feel the need to mention it one hundred times a day, so be it. The worse we feel it gets, the more we mention it.
I also don’t need posters like Pat M telling me that I am now a drem that doesn’t exist because Posada is going into the Hall of Fame. I have the right to feel what I do about Posada or anyone else.
I have already said that if things turn around and Posada is calling game after game where we are winning, I am going to be the first to do a mea culpa. Until then I have serious questions about him, and I know I am entitled to have them. I don’t need the security of others feeling the same way in order to voice my opinion on something.
Thanks.
And yes I did take a shot but I hadn’t seen your “silliness” post at the time so I can say you weren’t included in what I said.
see boston could hit J.A Happ
Is this the same Happ that shut us down??
Jerry Manuel gets himself thrown out. Nice.
Manuel had to get tossed there. Do SOMETHING to show he gives a damn. Maybe fire his team up and get a run or two.
does anyone think this is just a slow start for A-Rod, or is this the real A-Rod without juice that we’ve now signed and own a ridiculous contract for mediocrity?
CB,
I learned a lot about what teams look for with catchers during this entire process.
Obviously, throwing is big. Tony is 1.7-1.8 to second base with his throws. That’s better than Wieters or Posey were during their draft years.
Interesting story, the Pirates Director of Scouting told me the other night…..
He’s really good friends with a coach on the University of Texas coaching staff. The coach told him they had the watch on him during the entire 25 inning game and he was 1.8 to second from the 8th inning through the 25th inning.
He said he never saw anything like it.
Scouts also look for movement behind the plate. Are you quick enough to move and block balls? Are pitchers willing to throw breaking balls in the dirt to you with a runner on third? If so, that’s a sign of confidence.
Framing pitches and how he interacts and works with pitchers is huge. The Pirates went as far back as talking to pitchers who threw to him in high school and the Cape last summer during their evaluation of him.
Calling games? College catchers have their games called from the bench. They have veto power but, that’s rare.
That’s a part of his game that he will work on in the minors.
As far as his offense, he set a school record for runs scored in a season at BC this year. He is in the Top 5 all-time in HR’s, RBI, slugging, runs, and hits at BC.
His bat has gotten better every year. The Pirates want to see him hit for awhile before making some adjustments. They feel very confident the adjustments they will make to him will increase his offensive production.
This is the J.A. Happ that shut down the Yankees. And Beckett homers off him. Ridiculous.
way, way, WAY off-topic:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a.....ster1.html
brilliant!
4 IP, 4 K’s for Betances
De La Rosa turned into AJ Pienett in the 5th
Aj is in a zone,different pitcher way different game out come,nuf said?
Chan Ho Park in YIKES!
Ah Pete I see your quick to turn from your AJ bashing ways
Pedroia, Drew, Varitek & Ortiz not in the Sox line up today and they are still giving the Phillies a good run. I think that says more than Beckett’s HR.
Phillies better rally!!
Cano woooo!
Manuel had to get thrown out, who cares if he’s not in the dugout, doubt anyone does at this point!
Cano having some fun today.
Cano is killing the ball.
For all of those people wondering how Happ shut down the Yankees and is getting hit hard by Boston, remember this…Padilla shut down Boston in Fenway, the Yankees hit him hard. Santana beat Boston in Fenway, and today, the Yankees owned him. So, these things happen.
sj44-
bobby ramos was for a short time with the SPBA team i was with. i remember him as a very hard working and no nonsense guy who’s catching skills were so good i watched him to pick up what i could. it sounds like he was the perfect catching instructor for tony . i’ll bet it meant a lot to ramos too to see tony drafted #4 in the country.
The risk of starting Cervellis instead of Posada,
He is a rookie, he is destined to have a slump, both behind the plate AND at the plate. Overexposing him might not pull him out of the funk, and could risk having an excellent trading chip.
Joe Mauer will become Yankees’ starting catcher when he becomes a FA.
Santana sitting…
A pie maker pitches still…
Sun peeking through clouds…
ok, fine – I’m being ignored and I don’t know why
Does he finish his last year of college next year SJ? Or does he go straight into the Pirates system and finishes it later?
What are the plans for him next year?
Thanks a lot GB. Perhaps you will be able to see him play sometime this summer. Let me know if you will be at a game.
I’ve declared a family and friend boycott for the month of July. I don’t want anyone, myself included visiting him and distracting him as he adjusts to pro ball.
Once we go into August, I will let family visit. I want him to be “all baseball” for the next few months.
CB,
As far as his movement plans, we negotiated hard for him to start in the SAL. We felt that if he played well there, he starts next year at Lynchburg in High A ball.
Its an aggressive plan but, one worth taking IMO.
Perhaps he can finish next year in AA or starting 2011 in AA. If he does, that’s going to get him on the fast path to the majors.
I’ve had numerous baseball people tell me that he can play in the majors right now defensively. How he hits will determine how fast moves through the system because the Pirates believe he’s already one of their Top 6-8 prospects.
When you hear the baseball people say that, you can’t help but get excited.
We are though still trying to take it day by day, hard as it is!
I guess Beckett decided he’d better get that run back himself.
“and AJ settling down – it’s nice to see”
13-0 will do that to you. The real test was the bases-loaded, no-outs situation after the Yanks scored 4. Good job, AJ.
What?? Beckett hit a homer to tie it? COME ON!!
Trisha,
Excellent post at 3:18.
The blog is for people to express thier opinion and be respectful to other bloggers who disagree.
Shame on those who try to put down others who disagree to support their view only.
Mike Fransesca is gonna be fun tomorrow.
Yes, the haiku is back
SJ44 -
Just caught up on all your “Nephew News.” It is wonderful to hear about a young man who has worked hard and done all the right things and has his dream come true, and keeps his wits about him. Your sister, I am sure, is bursting with pride, as we know you are, not just because he’ll have a good chance to play in the major leagues some day, but because of the way he’s apparently done this.
Again, more congratulations to your nephew, your sister, and you.
Joe from LI -
Brunch is great!
And hopefully, when the day is done, the Yanks will have taken the series from the Mets, and everyone can stop overreacting.
why are we even talking about Wildcard, etc in the middle of June? sounds so ridiculous!
Ridin the Wave – Perhaps you’re asking a question that no one wants to dignify with an answer? Or one thats been asked a thousand times before by snarky trolls?
If your Mets fan go outside after this.
“why are we even talking about Wildcard, etc in the middle of June? sounds so ridiculous!”
Agree there, I don’t look at WC standings until the last month of the season.
Doreen, OT but I go to 10:00 mass too.
Tricia, Time out….Of course your opinion is valid , however I just think taht you’re evaluation of the catchers are one sided….Jorge is an average maybe slightly better than average a few years ago….However to judge him by era’s is not a worthy arguement…..Posada’s value to the club is undeniable, look at 08 as a reference…..I do believe that you’ve become more of a student of that game this season, and your devotion to the Yankees has never been an issue…..I just think that several here are trying to convey to you that maybe that your processing of the catchers value just maybe a little off center……
“why are we even talking about Wildcard, etc in the middle of June? sounds so ridiculous!”
You are absolutely right.
I still beleive that we will win the division.
I think when the positive people here refer to WC, they are telling the ledge jumpers that we are already in the play for the WC inspite of all the issues to date.
The Mets are playing like real men now that their manager has been tossed. Zero Yankee runs that inning.
Real men don’t need any stinkin’ Manuals.
SJ –
my son, albeit excelled in lacrosse, was offered college scholarships by many D-1 teams, ultimately going to UMD, and then playing for a pro Lax team, it’s all totally different than baseball, but still as a parent, was very proud and rewarding. If lacrosse was as popular a sport, I’d be in same situation now as your sister. Congrats to you and your sister, it truly is a testament to parenting and the people around him to get him where he is, I know all too well:)
Taking out Teixeira already cost them a base runner. I think it’s one inning premature to have taken so many players out. However, I realize Teixeira has been playing every inning of every game, so he deserves the rest.
BBFan,
right, and let’s not forget when we were 14 games back and came back! so it doesn’t matter if we’re on top (almost!) now, anything can happen, too many games left to play.
Randy,
It did. He texted me during the draft and was really happy for Tony. As was Pete Griftol, who did the same.
We got a ton of texts from scouts after the pick.
Tony is a kid scouts really liked because he got better every year, worked hard, and is a good kid.
Angel,
No, he won’t be going back to BC for awhile.
Catchers have a very different timetable than position players in the off-season.
Very often, they have to go to the instructional league in Mid-September and work with the arms at the complex.
I think Tony is going to be in Brandenton for a lot of the off-season working with the younger arms and the roving catching and hitting instructors.
They told me the other night they believe he has the chance to be fast tracked. I think they are going to give him as much as he can handle and see how it goes.
I’m going to check with BC this summer to see if there are internet courses he can take or papers to submit down the road to advance toward his degree.
Its just nice to know he has his education option set and he really wants his degree from BC. He’s very loyal to the school and appreciative of everything they have done for him on the field and in the classroom.
104 pitches
for the love of god AJ I hope it clicks w/ you b/c this isn’t pretty.
the idiot, but cute, Chip on TBS just said, “It’s been all New York today” too funny, duh, but which NY idiot!
SJ, If we’re both still posting here at The LoHud in September 2011, Tony we be a topic as he’ll be playing at PNC Park…..Mark your calendar…..
Pat M – when I see a pitcher have a great game with one catcher behind the bag and then see the same pitcher continue to languish with Posada, it gives me pause. The more I see it happen with pitcher after pitcher, the more pause it gives me. And Posada’s reputation for being hard-headed and having pitchers ask not to have him as a catcher doesn’t help. No it hasn’t been every pitcher in the system, but it has happened.
I will continue to say that if the results are there I will be happy, no, ELATED, to change my position. Heck I don’t care what the reason is, all I want is for the Yankees to win. I’m much happier to go through life without those kinds of questions nagging at me, believe me.
tie game in Philly, 5-5, going to bottom of 7th
where is berroa when we need him?
wow pena!
Man was that pretty!
OhEL NINO was that pretty
pena cano!!!
Jeter probably doesn’t make that play. Excellent, Pena!
nice dp
That Pena is smooth as silk. Good job by Robbie to catch it barehanded.
One more inning AJ.
Marlins are sticking it to TOR.
Beckett is back on the mound, Rollins, Utley, Victorino are up
Buehrle just hit a HR in Milwaukee. Good day for pitchers to hit I guess
Well we didn’t REALLY need AJ to give innings that bad because Hughes could have come in, since we have tomorrow as an off day. But we REALLY needed AJ to give us innings to prove to us that he can give us innings, dammit!
And he has.
And for once, for once, a pitcher has helped out my fantasy team! Yes a very minor aside – unless you’re me!
Posada is more valuable to the Yankees even if his defense is below average
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU
Cervelli is working on an extremely small sample size and isn’t going to be a career .300 hitter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU
Kyle Farnsworth and Kei Igawa suck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU
OH btw Correlation is never ever the same as Causation; Posada v. Cervelli solved.
AJ is smokin hot *Pssst*.
Rollins with a HR!
HR Jimmy Rollins. 6-5 Philly in the 7th.
And I got to see it!
Thank you Jimmy Rollins!!!
WOO HOO!!!
Trisha – a catcher, any catcher, isn’t going to get along with every pitcher. Personalities come into play, etc. I understand what you’re saying, but remember Posada has been praised by and been very successful with a lot of great pitchers too. We’ve won world series’ with the guy back there.
Ridin’ This Wave — remember it’s only Alex’s 35th game, plus the hip is not going to be 100 percent this year. Hopefully he’ll pick it up soon. We need him to.
Pena and Cano…
Juggling cowhide, inning ends…
A soprano sings…
Tricia, my experiences with catchers were that for the most part that they were indeed grumpy hardheaded sorts…Just look at Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup )….I also always felt that GB was a catcher somewhere in his past….He certainly has the diposition of a catcher….
one thing i do not like about cerveli’s catching is how he rides the mitt all the way down to the dirt without flipping. that’s creates laziness in getting the body down to block pitches.
he’s going to miss some balls in the dirt doing that so much.
Trisha -
OT response: We usually go to 12 o’clock mass, because I like to linger over coffee and the paper. But we the priest saying mass today is a friend of ours (married us), so we went to the 10. But, you know the 12 is over so late, I’m thinking of changing my Sunday morning routine.
Rollins homer baby!
I hope that Pena play is a web gem but if the Sox lose, ESPN will feel they to punish the Yankees.
That makes sense. I wondered how he’d be able to balance college and being in the minor league system. I couldn’t see how it could be done.
Clearly Tony has been given an opportunity that he’s worked very hard to get, and he owes to to himself to take every opportunity to realize his dream. Putting that aside for a year to finish a college degree, he can always go back and finish is a small trade-off, I’d think. Always good to have options open.
Interesting how when he really decided to put in the hard work, discipline and sacrifice make his MLB dream happen, it carried over to all aspects of his life – academically as well as athletically. I’ve noticed that about certain types of athletes.
Wheres all my “We should have signed Lowe” fans at? See what he did in the AL East today?
You can never take the snr. citixen out, he’s been hit by pitches since 1818.
Doreen – There’s always Saturday 5PM – I’ve done it for years, and I kind of like coming back and either going out to dinner, or having a glass of wine while working in the kitchen/grilling. Of course, I no longer have small kids to tend to, so that may make a difference.
Phillies ahead now 6-5!
“Well we didn’t REALLY need AJ to give innings that bad because Hughes could have come in, since we have tomorrow as an off day. But we REALLY needed AJ to give us innings to prove to us that he can give us innings, dammit!”
Trisha,
I disagree. Sure Hughes could have pitched four innings today, but then he’d be lose for Wednesday. He really needs to be available to caddy for Wang on Wednesday given his struggles.
Berroa gets hit with a pitch and laughs it off. He was thinking if Walter Johnson or Cy Young couldn’t hurt him, this clown on the Mets won’t either.
Doreen, I used to both mass and church hop but out of loyalty to my home parish, which has been losing members due to demographics, I decided to just stick there. They pared the English-speaking masses down to two times, Saturday at 4 and Sunday at 10. I find the Sunday mass to be good for me. It also always gets me home in time for the pregame!
Joe From LI -
We do Saturday at 5 in the summer a lot.
Dynasty, great ‘ku
But please explain to the board
Why the ellipses?
Angel,
He’s a very focused kid. When we were coming back from Pittsburgh yesterday, he said, “I have to go to the cage and hit when we get home”.
His ex-GF, they are still very close, surprises him, and picks him up at the AP. She is studying Pre-Med at UF and has been in Gainesville. They haven’t seen each other in months.
He’s naturally happy to see her and it would have been very easy for him to say, “I’ll hit tomorrow (Sunday)”.
He came home, told everybody he has to go to the cage, and hit for 2 hours before coming home to his surprise party.
He realizes the hard work is really just beginning.
That’s why I beileve that if he stays healthy, the sky is the limit for the kid.
Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Berroa gets hit with a pitch and laughs it off. He was thinking if Walter Johnson or Cy Young couldn’t hurt him, this clown on the Mets won’t either.
lmao
“Berroa gets hit with a pitch and laughs it off. He was thinking if Walter Johnson or Cy Young couldn’t hurt him, this clown on the Mets won’t either.”
hmm make it a 14 or something! 13 isn’t a good number to begin the road trip.
Phillies still threatening, no outs, one on 2nd and big boy Howard is at the plate
LOL???
“UPDATE, 3:49 p.m.: Angel Berroa just got hit in the hip by a pitch. He didn’t mind, he had that hip replaced years ago. ”
This may seem like gilding the lilly, but the Yankees batters are still showing plate discipline, in the 7th inning of a route. Speaks for good coaching by Kevin Long, and the respect the players have for his teaching. At least, I think so.
do I dare even say it, this game is so boring! although we all know, yeah, I will take it!
LOL, we got too many lucky points in one game. We’ve got to save some for the road games!
Trisha, thank you for that thoughtful post. I’m always happy to give you credit when you take that approach. Sorry for the slow reply, but my brother called and wanted to discuss the game, among other things.
Of course you have the right to your opinions and feelings, as do we all. That doesn’t make the feelings or opinions correct, however. As the late Senator Pat Moynihan said (and I paraphrase), everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.
If you think that I an others are childish in the way we discuss the view that Posada hurts the team with his presence, that’s a valid point of view. And if you think my/our satire is condescending, you are probably right. However, if you revisit some of your own posts on this and other matters, you might see a good deal of condescension there as well. Not that two wrongs make a right.
I (and others) have described some of your posts on this and other subjects as being passive-aggressive. I don’t blame you for taking offense at that characterization, but I hope you’ll consider whether it might at times have some validity.
All I can say is that I try to make fun of the idea and not the person. I’m sure I fail sometimes, and I apologize for those lapses. I hope you’ll consider your own posts about me and others in this vein.
On the subject at hand, I really do think that saying that the Yankees have a ‘huge problem’ with Posada is silly. You are not the only one who feels as you do, and not every “shot” I take is directed at you or you alone.
Anyway, the big picture for today at least is that the Yankees are up 13-0 in much-needed laugher against the Mets’ ace, which was supposed to be impossible since I read on LoHud that the Yankees can’t beat good pitchers.
I am happy to drop the subject (and the several others about which we have clashed) entirely for the duration of this happy day. And who knows, maybe even longer.
ex-Yankee Sandy Alomar Sr.
“Tricia, my experiences with catchers were that for the most part that they were indeed grumpy hardheaded sorts…Just look at Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup )….I also always felt that GB was a catcher somewhere in his past….He certainly has the diposition of a catcher….”
I think I would either be a CF or RF because in real life I have more a Swisher or Melky disposition!
Testing
SJ44
June 14th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Thanks a lot GB. Perhaps you will be able to see him play sometime this summer. Let me know if you will be at a game.
I’ve declared a family and friend boycott for the month of July. I don’t want anyone, myself included visiting him and distracting him as he adjusts to pro ball.
Once we go into August, I will let family visit. I want him to be “all baseball” for the next few months.
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My pleasure, SJ. I’m hoping that I can get back to the parks in Charleston or Savannah by mid July. I don’t live in Savannah now, so I’m still trying to get my bills and payments in order, plus, getting up the nerve to drive in the mid day Savannah traffic. About 200,000 people and two ways into the city from the Georgia side and one way in from South Carolina..
Phillies up 7-5 with a chance to do more damage.
HARDEE HAR HAR HAR!!!! 7-5
I have to say I am never a fan of pouring it on once the score is so lopsided. Could the Yanks take it a little easy? I know that’s dumb because no team does that.
7-5 Phillies!
7-5
If anyone is interested in viewing a slideshow of pictures I took at Friday night’s game, click on my tag.
and man on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out!!!
AWWWWW 2nd and 3rd, one out, 7-5.
Gee, come on Sox. What up???
RT @John_W_Henry: Both bullpens are spent. Ours is one of the best I’ve ever seen.
Sweet, I was a little worried about the superstition-related ramifications of scoring 13. (Yes, I still think Alex should change his jersey numbertoo)
Daniel Bard Next next Joba out of the pen i dont think so
Oh my God. It’s that phenomenal, unhittable, sensational, indestructable, wish he were ours-able, member of the phenomenal, unhittable, sensational, indestructable, wish they were ours-able Boston bullpen – DA BARD!!!
A thorn by any other name would hurt as much!
this guy pitches like Kei Igawa
BBB -
I always, always think Alex should re-think his uniform number.
You have to have an arm to play right Tricia….Man I just looked at the long overhead shot of the Stadium from the blimp….Wow, the warning tract in right to right center looks very close to the infield…..
I wanna see Hughes for an inning.
ctrl F kei Igawa
15 runs today and only 4 scored on homeruns.
“@John_W_Henry: Both bullpens are spent. Ours is one of the best I’ve ever seen.”
Hahaha, legends in his own mind. A good pen sure – best ever? Keep hitting that crack rock, man w/2 first names!
The curse of Julio Lugo strikes again!
9-5 phillys
Pat M.
June 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Tricia, my experiences with catchers were that for the most part that they were indeed grumpy hardheaded sorts…Just look at Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup )….I also always felt that GB was a catcher somewhere in his past….He certainly has the diposition of a catcher….
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Damned….you’ve been hanging around and golfing with Randy too much. LMAO.
“Correct me if I wrong, Sandy, but, if I kill all the golfers, they’re going to lock me up and throw away the key.”
It’s always nice to see Trisha and Nick discuss their catching philosophies calmly and maturely in a non Bruney/K-Rod way.
I Almost Had peacemaker Jose Veras warming up in the Lohud bullpen – just in case.
9-5 Phillies Bard getting lit up
I wish I had valium. Oh no no no!!! Two more runs.
OH BARD! WHEREFORE ARE THOU BARD?????
That was a pretty camera shot!
Pena and Cano,
Juggling cowhide, inning ends…
A tenor intones…
Phils up 9-5.
Doreen – It’s always troubled me even more that he wears it in honor of Dan Marino. I love Marino, but at this point of his career, Alex needs less in common with the “greatest player who never won anything” mold, not more!
9-5 Phillies, and the 7th still isn’t over! Tito coming out for another pitching change
The Hall of Famer Daniel Bard walks the pitcher on 4 pitches
They walk Coste to pitch to Chan Ho Park and then they walk him too! lol Although all 4 pitches were close according to espn’s gamecast
BBB – I was just about to write the same thing abt Marino. LOL. Yeah, Alex chose the wrong role model to emulate.
BBB -
I didn’t know that about the #13 and Alex.
Great Joba Robertson
Nice inning, Dave.
Robertson is great when he throws strikes.
..aaaand Bard pens a tale of EPIC FAIL!
Robertson is really impressing. Great job. Maybe we see more of him?
10-5 philly
this is soooo boring, but good for Robertson, good for all of them, this has to be a good confidence builder in many facets.
Saito just totally hit Rollins! Bases loaded and it scored a run! baaaaaahaaaaa
Saito just drilled Rollins in the back after Rollins hit a HR last time up and the Phillies opened up a big lead
Saito hits Rollins with the bases loaded on the first pitch, 10-5 philly
D-Rob needs to pitch more…his stuff is nasty
10-5 as rollin gets hit
Does Arod endorse Isotoner gloves too?
Nick, you and dennis have referred to my posts as passive-aggressive. I don’t see anyone else making that reference. That said, the best I can tell you is that sometimes posts don’t translate the way people intend for them to because the last thing I am in life is passive agressive. I am about as in-your-face as a person can get, much better known as totally aggressive. I can be purposely coy, or attempt to be purposely “whatever”, but really, it is never passive-aggressive. If it comes across that way, it certainly doesn’t come from that modality.
Since I and others (but here I will speak for myself) see that Posada thing as a huge problem, I certainly don’t see it as silly. Or to paraphrase what you said, you certainly have the right to see it as such, but that doesn’t make it fact.
So we can agree to disagree on this topic and others.
I always believe in giving people their quarter since I know that perception is reality and therefore nobody corners the market on truth.
this game is way more fun to watch now!
Saito wasn’t warned so they can retaliate if they feel like it
Where was Robertson again in that eighth inning against the Sox?
11-5
wow Saito almost hit Victorino, but walked him, another run scored!
Can somebody please help me out. I don’t understand what Dave Eiland’s excuse for our pitchers not throwing strikes? Are you kidding me? Because of the ballpark. So what was our excuse in Boston? Give me a break. It’s not like we don’t have one of the better hitting offenses in the majors?
Bard’s ERA just went from 0.71 to 3.55 and he’s responsible for the man on 3rd
11-5 PHI
I too would like to see Robertson in closer games/higher leverage situations. Next time a late inning jam needs to be escaped, maybe they should give him a try instead of a SP who is not used to entering the game in such situations
what is happening to the best bullpen in history baseball?
bard + today = 0.2 innings, 2h, 4, 4runs, 3 walks.
Saito can’t throw a strike to save his life!
Yankee trivia quiz – one more inning to go for a shutout today
- the Yankee pitching staff already have two shutouts this year: who was the catcher for those games?
Saito is getting pinched….
This is too funny. After walking the pitcher to load the bases, Boston allows the Phillies to score 3 more runs on 2 walks and a HBP.
Doreen, I hope so, I’ve been rooting for him since last year. Bruney, Robertson, and Aceves in the pen is looking pretty good right now. Coke is even getting it back together. I would like to see Mark Melancon, also. Maybe later in the year.
It’s a work in progress, just like everyone else. If they can get it straightened out in June, they should pile up the wins the second half of the year.
“Does Arod endorse Isotoner gloves too?”
LMFAO! Thank you, someone had to go there
*THEIR VAUNTED PEN IS NOT SO SPECIAL*
Now just shut up about it!
Hey, where’s Mo’sflatcutter when you need him? Sulking because the Yankees are doing well?
wow, finally a K to end the inning
Safe to say Tomko or Veras gone Tuesday?
Why so serious K-Rod?
Why so serious Bahstahn’s bullpen?
Damn josh gives up 7 runs
Meanwhile, in Philly: the curse of tweeting about your bullpen’s greatness then immediately having them crap the bed shortly after?
Bard not getting away with those straight high nineties FBs against the Phillies.
Expect to see more of that as the league sees more of him.
“Yankee trivia quiz – one more inning to go for a shutout today
– the Yankee pitching staff already have two shutouts this year: who was the catcher for those games?”
Say it ain’t so!!!
I would have answered sooner but I was temporarily mesmerized by something or another.
What is twitface Henry twittering now?? LMAO.
Joe From LI -
I agree.
And if you’re going to have your team having some adjustments to make, better to know what they are earlier in the season, take care of them early and be set for the end run.
I wonder if Castillo gets booed at CitiField the next time they go home.
Well, facing Alex Cora, Fernando Martinez and Fernando Tatis with a 15-0 lead isn’t exactly like coming in to face the Red Sox in a tight situation, but I agree the guy deserves a chance in those situations to see what he can do.
“Why so serious K-Rod?
Why so serious Bahstahn’s bullpen?”
LMAO!!!!!
“Yankee trivia quiz – one more inning to go for a shutout today
– the Yankee pitching staff already have two shutouts this year: who was the catcher for those games?”
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DT
maybe you should actually check your facts because two different catchers caught the “shutouts”
“This is too funny. After walking the pitcher to load the bases, Boston allows the Phillies to score 3 more runs on 2 walks and a HBP.”
Sounds like someone impersonating Joba.
Doreen,
You took some great shots…
Especially liked 105!!! Spectacular!
Wait – did Henry really tweet about his bullpen? I thought that was a joke.
DT
maybe you should actually check your facts because two different catchers caught the “shutouts”
I didn’t say it was the same guy!
Molina caught one. Cervelli caught one.
lead off triple for Sox
DT, Molina and Cervelli.
So what are the odds that Cervelli will catch AJ next game? I hope Girardi addresses this issue in the post-game.
I honestly believe that it was Cervelli who helped AJ get out of that bases loaded mess. No offense to Posada.
We have tomorrow off so don’t jump off a bridge because Phil is in.
That AVIS commercial is cute.
Scorpio,
I TOTALLY SECOND THAT NOTION!!!
“who was the catcher for those games?”
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yes, you did
Doreen- He really posted that. He is on crack.
THe nationals coming in with 3 rookie starters YIKES!!!
lol Carl, you know this blog well. I was just about to say something about it, not having thought of the off-day. I assure you my comment would have been levelheaded though, haha.
Dynasty is Destiny -
Thanks.
Jennifer -
I guess for Red Sox fans it’s kinda cool, BUT, come on!
“THe nationals coming in with 3 rookie starters YIKES!!!”
And we have Wang-Joba going in 2 of the games!
Mets fans are so dumb if they boo Castillo next home stand…that’s not going to help their team…and we all know it can happen to anybody….we wouldn’t be booing Cano if he did it, would we?
Who was playing with CMW’s hair? LOL!
Doreen,Great pictures of the Satdium……
Trisha: I will give you the last word on these subjects.
I ask you to consider one thing, though, and no need to reply now. You’ve said a few things about me that have nothing to do with Posada or Berroa or Veras, etc. I hope you’ll consider those things if you would like to make peace.
oh but if A-Rod did it, we’d be all over him!!
PHI trying to give the lead back.
Scorpio, I have Yankee pitchers on my fantasy team. I start them based on who’s catching, Posada or Cervelli. If Cervelli is catching them, I start them, if Posada is, I bench them. I’m glad Pete posts who’s catching and posts the lineup for the games.
I wanna know too, Laura – I’m thinking it might be Joba. Hilarious!
“we wouldn’t be booing Cano if he did it, would we?”
Yes we would
RE: AJ Burnett
what is more impressive?
a shutout of this Mets lineup over 7 innings?
or giving up just 3 runs against a potent Rangers lineup over 7 innings (what AJ did 2 starts ago with Posada catching)?
Nobody here has a clue about MLB game-calling, myself included.
Snr citixen cuts off El Nino
dont ruin shut out.
Thanks, Pat M.
David Cone knows what hes talking about.
“Scorpio, I have Yankee pitchers on my fantasy team. I start them based on who’s catching, Posada or Cervelli. If Cervelli is catching them, I start them, if Posada is, I bench them.”
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at least you’re not picking based on whether the opponent has a pretty uniform anymore.
Why is the Sr. Citizen in tge game?
Did Cone watch Hughes starts? He was throwing 94 too as a starter.
Rookie starters or not, if we don’t rape Washington sideways, heads better roll!
nah, Phillies are ok, 2 outs in the 8th
who pies AJ?
Scorpio
I agree with Cervelli over Posada when Burnett pitches. In fact I thenk that Posada is not a good catcher at all. DH yes.
“Scorpio, I have Yankee pitchers on my fantasy team. I start them based on who’s catching, Posada or Cervelli. If Cervelli is catching them, I start them, if Posada is, I bench them. I’m glad Pete posts who’s catching and posts the lineup for the games.”
Wow Sean, you just gave me a great idea.
Shut them out!
“who pies AJ?”
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did he hit a walkoff?
just in love with Cervelli! XX
“we wouldn’t be booing Cano if he did it, would we?”
only if he was blowing a bubble when he did it.
HUUUUUGHES
good job philly
Boston Dave…..Great humor…
Just caught up with the game thread. My opinions:
I enjoyed the panic over AJ when he loaded the bases with no outs. Always fun to read that after the fact. Well AJ impressed, he’ll be fine.
Nice reading the Tony Sanchez saga. Not sure I’d want SJ44 managing my allowance, but I guess having an adult watch a suddenly rich 21 year olds money is usually a good idea. Congrats SJ44, sounds like you were a very involved uncle. Are you his agent?
Nick vs. Trisha. Hmm, well Nick is certainly snarky, but usually funny. He does get a bit tougher vs. Trisha, but usually Nick’s comments are sharp and funny. Trisha loves an underdog, but is equal opportunity, she does tend to get offended easy, but she’s a good fan. I’ll call it a draw.
I went to the games the last two days, this one would have been the better one to go to. Oh well, glad we’ll get the series win. Look out dregs of the NL East, here come the Yankees!
I think the Yankees read thus blog,and got motivated. n/t
No back page of the Post for the METS,it goes to the Yankees today
Philly leads RS 11-6 bottom of 8th, so far still 2 back
Dutch,
yeah, then you’re right!
3rd Yankee shutout of the year. Good job Cervelli.
Tampa sweeps the Nats
Look out, they are red hot.
“I agree with Cervelli over Posada when Burnett pitches.”
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Burnett was better 2 starts ago with Posada catching.
The Mets lineup today is a joke compared to the Texas Rangers lineup he beat with POSADA catching.
Some of you should apply for major league coaching jobs. You know so much about game-calling it’s amazing you aren’t in the big leagues.
And a re-post from last night:
“By the way, as of just over 12 hours before gametime, the Yankees are the betting favorite tomorrow. I’ll take my winnings a la mode.
“
Sox down to their last 3 outs
“I hope you’ll consider those things if you would like to make peace.”
Kindly, from my perspective, I think I am really going a bit to even be posting to you. You have been downright mean toward me both when I have been around and when I have not. I find no humor in those things at all. In the past when I have let bygones be bygones, you have just reverted to form.
I don’t have a lot of trust when it comes to you. I think life is working best with us staying in our own corners for now.
“Tampa sweeps the Nats
Look out, they are red hot.”
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Nats are pretty bad but they can score runs. Yanks pitching needs to show up and they’ll sweep as well.
Trisha, it’s worked well for me so far.
“HUUUUUGHES”
correction
YUSSSSSSSSE
Burnett pitches a good game with Cervelli there is no debate anymore.
I thought the Berroa jokes were like beating a dead horse, but I gotta admit I did chuckle about the hbp hip replacement joke. heh
I ADORE, repeat ADORE Francisco Cervelli. And it has to do with a lot more than the eyes.
I see him as a mini Jeter, someone called up to fill in and making one hell of an impression. I just hope the Yankees keep this kid around for a long time to come.
that’s shutout # what for Cisco caught games ?
AJ with Cervelli catching today: 111 pitches, 66 strikes
AJ with Posada catching against Texas on June 2 – 110 pitches, 71 strikes
maybe you all don’t know as much as you think you do.
maybe AJ pitches well when he throws strikes.
what a novel idea!
Just got in. Listened to the game on radio. Great job by the Yankees but baseball is so unpredicatble. They could not touch the rookie yesterday and today score 9 off of Santana.
Correction – I know he wasn’t a rookie
Trisha I compare him to better looking La Duca
My God…what a dog Santana is. They seriously need to bench him or put him on the DL until he gets his head out of his….
Boston Dave, if three people say you are sick, lie down.
Unpredictable…
An ace goes down for the count…
First clouds, then comes sun…
“that’s shutout # what for Cisco caught games ?”
Cervelli has caught two of the three shutouts this year. Molina has the other.
Mets announcers think Santana is going on the DL
Boston Dave – were you here earlier? On YES it was reported that AJ & Cervelli was paired ON PURPOSE because AJ is more comfortable with Cervelli and they even noted AJ’s 7+ ERA when paired with Posada.
So this is not about us fans being armchair coaches. IT CAME FROM THE MANAGER HIMSELF.
Nick in Sf…I rode the Yanks today,as I did all three games…..
Sean, I was on the verge of dropping Joba. I almost sat Burnett today but had the feeling that today was going to be special. I didn’t even know that Cervelli was catching him when I activated him. What hurts is that you know Cervelli won’t get any more games than one out of 5. I believe there would be Posada hell to pay if Girardi even attempted that – not that he would.
Regarding the rookie pitcher thing, anyone see the Star-Ledger story on yesterday’s game? Girardi was asked about the inability to hit pitchers they’ve never seen, and he (and Damon) admitted it was a problem. Girardi then said if he knew how to fix it, he would. Then he went on to say that some of the players want to know what a guy throws while others don’t, they just want to go up and see the ball and react. I wondered if that meant some guys weren’t watching video or studying scouting reports. Because if that’s the case… it would explain a lot.
“Cervelli has caught two of the three shutouts this year. Molina has the other.”
impressive for a rookie
When Cervelli’s glove plus his bat produces and saves for runs and wins than Posada’s bat and glove does, only then can you talk about who has more value.
Trisha, I was referring to very specific things you said about me, things which you have to this date neither explained nor backed up with either facts or even assertions, at least not in any comments I’ve read. I think you know what I’m talking about. If you don’t, I’d be happy to refresh your memory.
Maybe the weather? When AJ pitched in Boston, it was freezing! (For a June night)
Yep ….. Two out of three ain’t bad.
Correction: saves ***more*** runs and wins than
Trisha, good move with your fantasy line-up and Burnett:)
“Boston Dave – were you here earlier? On YES it was reported that AJ & Cervelli was paired ON PURPOSE because AJ is more comfortable with Cervelli and they even noted AJ’s 7+ ERA when paired with Posada.
So this is not about us fans being armchair coaches. IT CAME FROM THE MANAGER HIMSELF.”
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It’s not rocket science. AJ has great stuff. He needs to throw strikes.
If he can’t locate, it doesn’t matter who is catching him.
AJ throws two damn pitches. The idea that a catcher calls a 2-pitch pitcher well is so laughable that it makes the Joba to the pen argument sound reasonable.
Nick and Trisha, can’t we all just get along?
Today was a great day. We won 15-0. Let’s enjoy.
Look, here’s how you do it:
GreenBeret7, I’m sorry I called you a jackass yesterday. I was frustrated about the game and took it out on you. I felt bad about it, it was over the line.
i’m just closing my eyes until 2011/2012 when cervelli is girardi to montero’s posada
“It’s not rocket science. AJ has great stuff. He needs to throw strikes.”
Of course, but when your strikeout stuff isn’t there, the pitcher needs to be guided. Today for instance, Cone noted that AJ was pitching backwards, going with his breaking stuff, establishing it for a strike…No one knows who called that gameplan. Was it Cervelli or AJ or Eiland…we don’t know. All we as fans sees are results. So when Po & AJ start getting good results this will go away.
“i’m just closing my eyes until 2011/2012 when cervelli is girardi to montero’s posada”
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sounds good to me.
unless they can get Joe Mauer for anything less than $30M a season
1.99 era 22.2 ip 12h 5runs 11walks 30k;s
Lhp mike Dunn in Double AA in his last 10 appearances…can he get a call up to AAA..he is on the 40
This is Burnett’s career in a nut-shell. Great one game, mediocre the next, mixed in with some implosions.
It has nothing to do with the catcher.
Trisha, when one of my fantasy pitchers is pitching and Posada is slated to catch, I get pretty annoyed. I’m pretty annoyed that Posada is even catching for the Yankees in the first place. If I had my way, he wouldn’t see a catcher’s face mask for the rest of his career. I don’t want him near my pitchers.
“1.99 era 22.2 ip 12h 5runs 11walks 30k;s
Lhp mike Dunn in Double AA in his last 10 appearances…can he get a call up to AAA..he is on the 40″
Needs to be in AAA. He has SU stuff. Better than Every Day Phil Coke.
Phillys win
“No one knows who called that gameplan. Was it Cervelli or AJ or Eiland…we don’t know.”
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you don’t know?
that’s funny. there are quite a few people here who are acting like they do know.
that’s the problem. the people here talk about game calling and catching skills as if they have a clue.
I’d listen to randy l, who I believe has actually played the position.
if he said he sees something wrong with posada’s game calling, I’d listen to what he had to say.
so far, the people closest to the game who know more than you or I do, have said that the claim that Cervelli is a much better game caller than Posada has no basis.
Phillies win!
If we get to the playoffs… you think Cervelli/Molina will start a game?
Burnett, Joba etc. have to learn how to pitch to Posada. Make it work.
Nick, as I said, I think it’s best to leave things as they are. I do much better when we’re not in communication.
Girardi is talking about AJ getting out of jams b/c he’s a strikeout guy…..really?
A-Rod and Swish are the only 0 fors today!
it was a true Troll free day.
I missed the brilliant predictions of Mo’sflatcutter. I was hoping for something like this.
Swisher: walk.
Matsui: homer.
Cabrera: double.
Cervelli: single.
Jeter: single.
Damon: double
Teixeira: single.
Rodriguez: Triple Play. (or maybe just a DP)
Cano: homer.
Swisher: walk.
Matsui: walk.
Cabrera: double (or maybe an out)
“This is Burnett’s career in a nut-shell. Great one game, mediocre the next, mixed in with some implosions.
It has nothing to do with the catcher.”
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pretty much…
as I said, two starts ago he had perhaps his best game as a Yankee beating the high-scoring Rangers with Posada catching –
110 pitches and 71 strikes!!!
then he pitched a dud.
now he pitches well again.
AJ can look for excuses, like the catcher, to explain why he’s been so inconsistent.
until he starts executing his 2 pitches, he won’t have that.
if his curveball is on, he could just throw that pitch over and over and win games.
The Yankees needed this game. It has been awhile since they’ve had a laugher.
“Burnett, Joba etc. have to learn how to pitch to Posada. Make it work.”
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I’d prefer they simply learn how to throw strikes and control their pitches.
can’t wait to see how Bruney does coming back…could really just finish out our issues
You know what Boston Dave, read back on the thread and spare me the attitude.
When the manager replaces an established catcher & bat with a rookie so his pitcher can be “more comfortable” that is saying much more than what randy l can hypothesize on.
(no offense to randy l.)
Cervelli & AJ won today. That’s a fact. Enjoy your evening!
“The Yankees needed this game. It has been awhile since they’ve had a laugher.”
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day off tomorrow too. the bullpen gets some much needed rest.
Next 6 games
Sabathia vs. Mathis
Wang vs. Lannen
Joba vs. Stammen
Pettitte vs. Josh Johnson
Burnett vs. West
Sabathia vs. Volsted
DutchHugo, it’s all good. I do best when I don’t communicate with Nick. I don’t reference him unless he takes a shot at me. The obvious progression is that if he doesn’t take shots, there is no animosity.
End of story. I will not respond further on this.
“You know what Boston Dave, read back on the thread and spare me the attitude. ”
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why?
I only need to read one of your posts to know you have no clue what you’re talking about.
opinion is fine. if you like cervelli, that’s great. he looks like a promising young catcher and i hope he keeps it up.
but let’s get something straight, neither you nor I know much about game-calling.
stop making yourself like like an even bigger idiot by pretending you do.
Next 6 games
Sabathia vs. Mathis
Wang vs. Lannen
Joba vs. Stammen
Pettitte vs. Josh Johnson
Burnett vs. West
Sabathia vs. Volsted
I would say 4-2 would be about right
“This is Burnett’s career in a nut-shell. Great one game, mediocre the next, mixed in with some implosions.
It has nothing to do with the catcher.”
REMO, while you may be correct since AJ has said he feels better with Cervelli as his catcher, that may go a long way toward having him pitch better or helping him feel better about getting out of jams – as we saw happen today. As long as it works for him, who are we to question it?
Boston Dave STHU, you are insulting for no reason…read the thread to see that I never clamed that one catcer was better than the other. Get a life, Idiot.
Nick in SF, even though I won 2 of 3 in the series, I just won a few bucks because of yesterday’s game…The Yanks were literally a 2 to 1 fav……You need to stop throwing high hard one’s at Tricia….
Trisha: you can do as you please. But you’re the one who called me a liar, a fraud, and a good number of other insulting things (for which you could have been banned from this forum), so I’m sure you’ll understand why I am not as happy to ‘leave things as they are’ as you are.
With tomorrow an off day, Posada was getting today off no matter what we think….That’s like a vacation for a catcher……
We need to sweep the Nationals at home now.
Scorpio,
you said “no one knows”.
I agreed.
let’s leave it at that.
AJ feelin good, he says, and loves the rythm with Cervelli, said he shook him off once or twice, that’s it