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Game 63: Mets at Yankees (updates: K-Rod confronts Bruney during BP, pre-game Cashman and Girardi audio)

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YANKEES (35-27)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Matsui DH
Cabrera CF
Cervelli C

Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (4-3, 4.89).

METS (32-28)
Cora SS
Martinez LF
Beltran CF
Wright 3B
Church RF
Sheffield DH
Murphy 1B
Schneider C
Castillo 2b

Pitching: LHP Johan Santana (8-3, 2.39).

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES, WPIX, TBS.

SUBWAY STATS: The teams meet again at Citi Field June 26-28. … The Mets have won six of the last nine meetings between the teams. … The Yankees are 2-3 in interleague games this season.

WHERE’S HANK WHEN WE NEED HIM? Johan Santana is the hurler Little Stein wanted so badly before the Twins dealt him to the Mets for Carlos Gomez and assorted bums. Santana has been great for the Mets this season but allowed five runs on eight hits in six innings against the Phillies in his last start. He is 4-1, 3.15 in 10 games against the Yankees in his career.

NOT SO BAD: Robinson Cano is 6 of 15 against Santana. Derek Jeter is 8 of 23 with five extra-base hits. A-Rod is 5 of 21 but with two homers.

OLD FRIENDS: A.J. Burnett was drafted by the Mets in 1995 then sent to Florida as part of the deal that landed the loquacious left-hander, Al Leiter. Burnett is 2-6, 3.83 against the Mets in his career. He has not faced them since 2005.

SLUMPING: Johnny Damon is 1 of his last 18 with five strikeouts.

A-ROD HOME RUN STUFF: Alex has 562 homers, one shy of tying Reggie Jackson for 11th place all-time. … Alex has hit nine homers in his last 14 games against the Mets. … Of his nine homers this season, eight have home at Yankee Stadium.

COMEBACKERS: The Yankees are 4-22 when trailing after eight innings. They were 4-122 in such situations from 2007-08.

COKE IS IT AGAIN: Phil Coke has thrown 5.2 scoreless innings in his last six appearances and put only four men on base.

HOMER HAVEN: There has been at least one home run in all 31 games played at Yankee Stadium this season. The Yankees have hit 100 home runs, a franchise record over 62 games.

RISP REPORT: The Yankees are 6 of their last 40 (.150) and 10 of their last 74 (.135).

Back with much more later on.

UPDATE, 11:55 a.m.: Francisco Rodriguez tried to confront Brian Bruney during batting practice today and was held back by Jose Veras. The incident attracted enough attention that several Yankees, including CC Sabathia, came over to keep the peace.

Bruney was in left field as the Yankees were finishing up their BP. The Mets were coming into the field at the same time and Rodriguez went over to Bruney and appeared to be yelling at him.

I did not see the incident myself but watched video taken from the outfield by a fan, Frank from VoteSwisher.com. (The video is not on his blog as of yet. Frank is at game.)

I asked Bruney what happened and he smiled. “We talked about our dinner plans,” he said. “That was it.”

But the video showed a lot more than that. It was testy for a few seconds before cooler heads prevailed. Bruney, for his part, remained calm. It was Rodriguez who seemed agitated.

This goes back to yesterday’s incident when, unprovoked, Bruney said Rodriguez had a “tired act.” Rodriguez then said he didn’t know who Bruney was. He also challenged Bruney to say something to his face.

UPDATE, 12:11 p.m.: YES has video. Watch their pre-game show. If Rodriguez did make contact, that is something MLB will want to look into.

UPDATE, 12:18 p.m.: Meanwhile, Brian Cashman said today that Bruney would be activated on Tuesday.

Cashman talked about assorted other topics. But whenever he was asked about the Stadium, he passed. “You’d have to talk to Randy (Levine) or Lonn (Trost) about that,” he said when asked about all the home runs. Are the dimensions really the same? “”You’d have to talk to Randy or Lonn about that,” he said. Is the team doing any studies on the wind? “You’d have to talk to Randy or Lonn about that,” he said.

So, yes, the Stadium has become an issue within the organization. Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.

UPDATE, 12:33 p.m.: The YES video of the K-Rod/Bruney incident shows no shoving. K-Rod tried to get at Bruney and was walked away by Mike Pelfrey. It looked like one of those “hold me back, hold me back” kind of things. Bruney just stood there.

UPDATE, 1:02 p.m.: No Mets and Yankees have tried to fight in the last few minutes.

UPDATE, 1:12 p.m.: Nice catch by Swish to start the game. He jumped into that impossible-to-see scoreboard in right field and jostled the “Mets” sign. He better hope it’s not broken or Lonn Trost will send him a bill.

UPDATE, 1:29 p.m.: I get it, Burnett needs to face teams from New York to pitch well. 22 pitches after two innings? That is usually two batters for him.

UPDATE, 1:36 p.m.: The Yankees are bunting their No. 6 hitter in the second inning of a scoreless game. Just brilliant.

Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad baseball.

UPDATE, 1:40 p.m.: First and third, one out. They’re due for a hit in a situation like this.

UPDATE, 1:45 p.m.: What a moment for the Cisco Kid. Facing his legendary countryman, he dumps a little RBI single into right field. 1-0 Yankees. They’re making Johan work.

UPDATE, 1:49 p.m.: No team goes after Brian Bruney and gets away with it.

UPDATE, 1:53 p.m.: Best part of that inning for the Yankees? Three straight two-out, two-strike hits with RISP. 4-0 against Santana. Burnett has to win this game now. No excuses.

UPDATE, 1:57 p.m.: Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Burnett. Gets a 4-0 lead, walks the next batter who is a .241 hitter.

UPDATE, 1:58 p.m.: If the Yankees make a highlight video of this season, it’ll be called “Here comes Dave Eiland to the mound, the story of the 2009 Yankees.”

UPDATE, 2:04 p.m.: Federal government will stop water-boarding prisoners in favor of making them watch A.J. Burnett pitch. “I give in! Here are the secret plans! No more!”

UPDATE, 2:11 p.m.: If Burnett turns it around and makes something of this season, that third inning will be where it happened. Bases loaded, no outs and he escapes.

UPDATE, 2:17 p.m.: Didn’t get to this before. Here are the pre-game interviews with Joe Girardi:

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UPDATE, 2:40 p.m.: Wow, shocking turn of events here as Santana is out of the game after getting hammered by the Yankees. 3+ innings, nine hits and seven runs so far.

UPDATE, 2:48 p.m.: So A-Rod nearly grounded into a triple play. Then Cano homers and it’s 11-0. The nine ERs are the most ever allowed by Santana.

UPDATE, 3:02 p.m.: I think I broke my pen keeping score. What a crazy game. Can’t imagine anybody saw 13-0 coming against Santana.

Cano is now 7 of 17 against Johan and Jeter is 11 of 26.

UPDATE, 3:15 p.m.: In other news from the ballpark, Burnett is working on a three-hit shutout in the sixth inning.

UPDATE, 3:49 p.m.: Angel Berroa just got hit in the hip by a pitch. He didn’t mind, he had that hip replaced years ago.

UPDATE, 4:04 p.m.: Nice game for Burnett. 7 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 4 walks, eight strikeouts. That third inning could prove very important to him. He threw 66 of his 111 pitches for strikes.

UPDATE, 4:28 p.m.: It’s finally over. Yankees edge the Mets 15-0. Back later with some more.

 
 

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1,321 Responses to “Game 63: Mets at Yankees (updates: K-Rod confronts Bruney during BP, pre-game Cashman and Girardi audio)”

  1. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 9:38 am

    Lets go Yanks! Don’t fall behind anymore games.

  2. Rebecca-Optimist Prime June 14th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Oy. Kind of glad I have a family committment. I’m afraid this game might be kind of painful.

  3. Westerner99 June 14th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Over / under on time of first line-up complaint posted?

    I’m going with 10:49.

  4. Phil June 14th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    I’ll go with 10:48 (Price is Right style).

  5. Rebecca-Optimist Prime June 14th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Westerner and Phil:

    So taking the under.

  6. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 9:45 am

    The team is in a bad slump and should be in the midst of a 5 game losing streak (thanks Castillo).
    I think they where fortunate to take 2 or 3 from the Rays. They didn’t play all that well in that series.

    Interesting that Girardi is finally letting Cervelli catch Burnett. Looked like he tried to stay away from that battery before.

  7. Westerner99 June 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am

    I meant to type 9:48…oh well, I lose that one.

  8. William Buckner June 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Good to read the Yankees have so much fight off the field, they certainly haven’t laely on it.

    I have several questions going forward.

    Why is Angel Berroa on this team?
    Will Cashman make a move for relief pitching? Corner OF?
    Does Dave Eiland keep his job?

    This team, like all teams, is flawed, but to me they are clearly the 2nd best team in the AL.

    I hope Cashman and others wake up.

  9. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops - Latest Blog Entry: My Interview With Bill Gallo June 14th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    “John Henry is a billionaire who owns a baseball team. Wouldn’t you think he would have something better to do than post snarky Twitter messages about Mark Teixeira”?

    In addition to the above, (the very creepy) John Henry is about to marry a very hot woman 30 years his junior.

  10. brent June 14th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Pete wasn’t that deal nixed because they wanted Phil Hughes,Melky and some farm people and his first born child,an arm and a leg? The Twins asked too much for the trade remember?

  11. murphydog June 14th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    “John Henry is a billionaire who owns a baseball team. Wouldn’t you think he would have something better to do than post snarky Twitter messages about Mark Teixeira”?

    John Henry, like lots of other rich dudes, needs a bigger challenge than making money – he’s kind of got that knocked. Being a “baseball magnate” is something to do after you’ve made more money than you can ever spend.

    Picking on Teixeira? The players are like toy soldiers to guys like Henry, especially those players who did not succumb to his acquisition. He was probably trying out Twitter just to impress his wife-to-be with his “hipness.”

    http://deadspin.com/5194194/re.....r+old-lass

    But hey, she has her own money and maybe Henry just needs to exfoliate and moisturize more often. Gotta say, though, he looks like a very old 59. Jeez. That picture makes Tex calling him a 70 year old man even funnier.

  12. Rebecca-Optimist Prime June 14th, 2009 at 10:13 am

    Check out this article on Wang and his release points

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....se-points/

  13. RD 83 June 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am

    This team needs a kick in the butt from Girardi.

    Not a single player is batting over .300

    The only starting pitcher we have right now is CC Sabathia

    Bruney isn’t even playing right now, he shouldn’t be making any comments to the media about whats going on with Krod or anyone.

    I don’t think Girardi should be fired yet, but if this continues a few more weeks it may be time to give Willie a call to see what hes up to.

  14. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 10:20 am

    Rebecca – I thought you were an optimist? What’s this nonsense that the game might be “kind of painful”?

  15. murphydog June 14th, 2009 at 10:21 am

    RD 83:

    “I don’t think Girardi should be fired yet, but if this continues a few more weeks it may be time to give Willie a call to see what hes up to.”

    Seriously?

  16. Rebecca-Optimist Prime June 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Joe: I had the good fortune to be in the stands when AJ faced Philly, and then I saw AJ against Boston while working on my thesis, and it’s also raining here in northern NJ.

    I’m also running really short on sleep.

    These things do not generally portend to optimis.

  17. murphydog June 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Rebecca-Optimist Prime:

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....se-points/

    As usual, lies, damned lies and statistics. That was a very interesting review.

  18. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Just heard lower level of GWB is closed!! Leave now if you are going.

    Sure hope the players from NJ know this!!

  19. NYYanksFan June 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Willie Randolph is not the answer to anything that ails the Yankees plus he’s the bench coach for the Brewers.

  20. Pel June 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Here’s a better link:

    http://www.insidethebook.com/e.....v_blogger/

    In the comments section there’s ongoing discussion amongst baseball intelligentsia.

  21. Rebecca-Optimist Prime June 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    en: I’d assume all the players are already at the Stadium

  22. Hank June 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    What has Cano done to warrant batting 5th?

    The Yanks really overrate this guy.

  23. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 10:28 am

    srsly you don’t leave now the Puerto Rican paraders are going to block you off it’s already starting at the turnpike I just just got to midtown.

  24. RD 83 June 14th, 2009 at 10:29 am

    He wouldn’t even be here anymore if George was still running the show.

    0-8 to the Sox. They should be 0-2 to the Mets.

    He has made terrible decisions late in games (Alfredo in the 8th with 2 on? Really?).

    When things are going bad he never acts calm with the media.

    I obviously don’t know what goes on in that clubhouse, but it seems to me this team needs a kick in the butt. No one batting over .300, CC is our only starting pitcher, there are people on this roster that shouldn’t be on there (Berroa, Veras)

    Like I said, this goes on a few more weeks and we will be hearing a lot of talk about Girardi’s job and that will put some pressure on Hal for the first time of his ownership career.

  25. Tom K June 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am

    RD –

    It doesn’t really matter that “nobody is hitting .300″. Scoring runs is not a problem for this team, even if they have hit a bit of a slump in recent games.

    But that’s baseball – it’s impossible to maintain the type of streak the Yankees were on. Eventually, you are going to lose some.

    And “they should be 0-2 vs. the Mets”…well, they aren’t. They should have a few wins over the Red Sox as well – but they don’t.

  26. brent June 14th, 2009 at 10:39 am

    Since the topic of Wang came up.

    *How does Wang get through spring training wit no arm* *strength* ? What was Eiland doing while this ,season before hurt pitcher,was pitching in spring training?

  27. brent June 14th, 2009 at 10:40 am

    should be with.

  28. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    I have been always very positive in my postings always seeing some positive light even when things are the worst.

    I still beleive that Yanks are a very good team, Cash will make some tweaking before the trade deadline and the team will take off and make the play offs. Heck, even with today’s record they will make it if the season were to end today.

    However, some disturbing trends need attention, specifically relatd to Pettitte and Posada. Before their apologists jump at me, what I am writing below is not criticism, but observations.

    First Pettitte:

    Every one likes pettitte, but we can not live in the past. His line the last four games has been horrible. He says he is physically fine and I believe him as he is a stand up guy in my eyes. If that is the case then he is washed up. After horrible second half last year this bad strech of four games supports that. Joel Sherman, many love to hate him here, has a nice piece in NY post about Pettitte and Rivera. Though I question his observations on Rivera, he is right on mark on Pettitte. He thtows only eighties and relies heavily on his fast ball which is not cutting it at the ML level.

    Though every one talks about Wang, I think Pettitte is the biggest question mark in the rotaiton. In all likelyhood Wang will correct himself as he is young, throws hard and it is a question of getting his confidence back and trustnig his stuff. Probably he will turn it around in the start with the Nationals.

    On the other hand, unless his stuff suddenly improves, whih is unlikely, Pettite has nowhere to go. It is also important to note that though he has a guarnateed contract, it is incentives based with only 5 Mil guaranteed. So, if he continues to stink it up in the next couple of starts, Yanks have to seriouly consider forcing retirement on him or if he does not agree release him. I know, lot of people will be angry with this statement, but you have to decide whether to cater to his ego or throw up the 2009 season. Given the choice, I am sure you will choose succcess of 2009 season.

    Now on to Posada:

    There was lot of debate yesterday about Posada’s game calling. I stayed in the sidelines and did not participate in that discussion.

    First there is no question, Posada is an elite offensive catcher and he continues to be so. Personally, I would like to see Girardi batting him 5th instead of Cano as he draws lot of walks as well and moves the runners up even when he does not get a hit.

    Beyond that as game caller, he reached a point where he has become a liability. I believe that he is following the I-Rod syndrome selfishly and crewing up the minds of the young pitchers. As great a catcher I-Rod has been the rap against him was he calls too many fast balls so that he looks good in containing the running game. There is clear evidnece of it with respect to Posada as his skills diminished in this respect. Read Sherman’s article in the NY post about this aspect of Pettitte’s start yesterday. Even with a mediocre fasball, he calls for inordinate amount of fast balls and pettite got spanked. People can question Joba, yes he falls in love with his slider, but thier disagreements were mostly when Posada wanted fast balls and Joba wanted to throw sliders. And yesterday it was a telling point during Beltran’s at bat against Ace. Ace refused to throw THREE times what Posada was suggesting and then made Posada agree to throw a change up and Beltran was an easy out. Ace may be a rookie in the ML, but he is a veteran from Mexican days and did not get intimidated by Posada and threw the pitch he wanted.

    So, what do you do with Posada? I think he should not catch more than three times in a week and should be DH another couple of times. Is he going ot be happy? Absolutely not. But in he interest of the team he needs to accept it and go along. One game does not make it, but it is interesting to see how AJ does it today without Posada behind the plate.

    What are you thoughts. I know lot of us, including me, adore these guys for what they have done – but there is no need to go negative agaisnt the folks who have a different view.

  29. RD 83 June 14th, 2009 at 10:43 am

    I don’t care what the Win/Loss record is. That game was a gimmie, they did not play well enough to win. They didn’t play well enough to beat the Red Sox either. They got out played once again. They have nothing going for them right now except CC Sabathia.

    After watching these games I personally blame Girardi. That is my opinion and if you don’t care for it then i could care less.

  30. RS June 14th, 2009 at 10:47 am

    The fact that no one is hitting .300 IS telling. We’re already 1st or 2nd in the majors in homeruns, so when none of our guys hit for average, that tells you we probably hit way fewer singles than most teams (at least most good offensive teams).

    That falls in line with the idea that the Yankees can never build rallies by stringing together basehits, but rather they rely on homeruns or the opposing team playing sloppy defense (remember the last game against the Rays?)

    Also, it would be nice if they could score in the middle innings so when the bullpen comes into play, they’re working on adding insurance runs, not climbing from a 3 run deficit.

  31. brent June 14th, 2009 at 10:48 am

    It still say the chemistry of the team,has changed with Posada’s return.All of the pitchers starting as well as bull pen have gotten hit hard.

    Go to the Yankees web page,that picture of Andy face in his chest,and being consoled by Posada. Either Andy’s hurt or done. I hope he’s JUST PLAYING hurt.

  32. RS June 14th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    “As great a catcher I-Rod has been the rap against him was he calls too many fast balls so that he looks good in containing the running game. There is clear evidnece of it with respect to Posada as his skills diminished in this respect.”

    I have no idea if this is true, but maybe that’s why Moose didn’t like throwing to Posada? He was a pitcher who liked to work off his offspeed stuff instead of the fastball.

  33. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am

    i’m temporarily annoyed with pitch fx data on wang.

    what good is it if the experts on it are arguing about how accurate it is?

    it’s like measuring velocity with radar guns that all give you different speeds.

    i could see with my eyes that his release point was really high and over the top in spring training . it would be very obvious even to a casual fan if you looked at video from past seasons and in spring training.

    there’s another factor that no one is mentioning. wang has a major problem with stride length.

    neil allen , when teaching wang to throw the sinker strongly instructed him to shorten his stride to get the ball to sink. he constantly had to remind wang to do this over a period of years. wang isn’t self aware of his stride length and has to have a coach watching him to make sure it’s right.

    here’s the problem. if wang takes a really long stride length his foot will land lower on the mound and create a lower release point. so wang’s stride length is another variable in the f/x release point, but i don’t see anything in pitch f/x that measures where a pitchers foot lands on the mound.

    my feelings at present are pretty much that f/x data isn’t worth all that much right now on wang unless they get the yankee stadium pitch f/x exact and accurate.

  34. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am

    RS
    This article in the NY Post substantiates what many of us feel is wrong with the Yankees approach to hitting.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....174191.htm

  35. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am

    Eduardo Nunez hit HR #5 last night in the 2nd gm. of a double header

    Nunez is now batting .310 AVG, 5 HR, 21 RBI

    Kid could be very special.

  36. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    Things started going south the minute they decided to insert Wang into the rotation bumping hughes to the pen. the team was rolling when that came down. i think they are 4-6 since then and easily could be 1-9 if it were not for various gifts. the team was rolling….why did they feel the need change things up?

  37. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 10:58 am

    Where is Eduardo? AA or AAA?

  38. brent June 14th, 2009 at 10:58 am

    *BBFan*

    I yesterday ANDY throeing 2and 4 seam fastballs,and being hit and scored.When he threw the slider and cutter the hits didn’t come,or he got them out.He relied on the fastball too much.

  39. NYYanksFan June 14th, 2009 at 11:00 am

    “I spoke to an individual around the team and came away with a couple of interesting notes about some players.

    - I was told that the reason for Jesus Montero being promoted, despite the struggles behind the plate, was because he was too good for the Florida State League. Ironically, there is a belief that he could handle an even higher level offensively. He calls a good game behind the plate, but his mechanics throwing out runners are not there yet. He is way too slow on the release. This was often Mike Piazza’s problem during his career. When I asked how he could compare to Piazza behind the plate the response was ” he will be as good defensively, if not better, than what Piazza was during his career”. Finally, I was told Montero really wants to catch and doesn’t like hearing how he might be a DH or moved to another position.

    - Don’t look into anything about Austin Romine not being promoted. The Yanks just wanted to get each as many at-bats behind the plate as possible. PJ Pilittere was another name I discussed with my source and he raved about him. He told me PJ could play for 6-8 major league teams right now and hit about .270 with 10 homers. Not bad for a backstop these days.

    - Michael Dunn has been so impressive that a member of the Yankees front office said he is throwing better than Phil Coke. Dunn has struck out 49 in 36 innings so far this year. Ironically he has fared better against right handed hitters than left.”

    http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=11526

  40. Chris June 14th, 2009 at 11:00 am

    This team is painfully lost right now. Lots of time left but somebody needs to grab the wheel and right the ship.
    Not a peep from the front office although Cashman is probably in the early stages of talking moves in July.
    There’s little change in Girardi from last year. His press conferences are more excuses than reasons.

  41. Burnett After Reading June 14th, 2009 at 11:01 am

    I know Posada just came off the DL and it’s a day game after a mid-afternoon game, but why have left-handed hitting Matsui as the DH against one of the best lefties in the game, instead of using switch hitting Posada as the DH?

    I’m not sure if Matsui has better career numbers against Santana than Posada, that could be why. Maybe it’s just me though, but a switch hitter against Santana seems like a much better play than a lefty.

    Plus, even if something happens to Cervelli and the Yanks have to pull Posada out of the DH spot to catch, give up the DH, and let the pitcher hit, that’s not a big deal. Girardi was a pretty good NL-style manager not too long ago.

  42. raymagnetic June 14th, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Did Posada suffer from a brain injury that I haven’t heard of?

    I don’t know how game calling skills can diminish unless, well something is wrong with his brain.

    So after winning 1000 games as a catcher Posada has suddenly forgotten how to call games :???: Interesting theory.

    Maybe the pitchers are throwing bad pitches and that’s why they’re getting hit? Does anyone think that maybe the pitchers simply aren’t executing their pitches and that’s why they’re getting hit?

  43. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 11:04 am

    I agree with the sentiment in Posada not catching more than 2 or 3 times a week. its no coincidence that the teams era goes up when he is behind the plate.

  44. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    “I yesterday ANDY throeing 2and 4 seam fastballs,and being hit and scored.When he threw the slider and cutter the hits didn’t come,or he got them out.He relied on the fastball too much.”

    That is what I wrote as well.
    The question is whose fault is it? Posada or Pettite?.
    Pettitte and Mo trust Po and rarely reject Posada’s suggestions. So, my assumption is it is Po’s.

  45. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    “he team was rolling….why did they feel the need change things up?”

    because cashman in a knee jerk reaction brought wang up from scranton( when he knew he couldn’t send him back) in case joba missed a start when he was hit on the mound.

    joba didn’t miss a start and wang’s starter conditioning he built up in scranton was deteriorating while he sat in the bullpen.

    it was a brain dead move by cashman.

    if wang is left in the bullpen , you have just thrown away a two time 19 game winner because of a bad choice by cashman.

    without wang, the yankees are a much less formidable team because there is no 6th starter with hughes in the rotation when someone goes down and they will.

  46. The burning question June 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Does this team need a players only meeting just to air things out ?

  47. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:07 am

    “Where is Eduardo? AA or AAA?”

    AA he started getting hot in the end of April, it was a slow 1st month, got hot in May, was stabbed w/ a cleat from a baserunner came back had was HBP on his thumb, came back and hasn’t missed a beat. He has special 5-tools the kind you see from Miguel Tejada, not saying he’s going to be as good but the tools are there.

  48. Rose June 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Get off this Posada nonsense. All of a sudden he is responsible for all of the pitching staff problems. This staff, thus far, is mediocre at best. Except for CC. This bullpen is overused because starters cannot go deep into games.

    Pettitte said his cutter wasn’t good yesterday. So what pitches should Posada have called?

    How about AJ earning his money and pitching a great game today.

    Wang now knows he has to show Girardi something in his next start. Can Wang take this added pressure? They called Wang up too soon. All those pitchers in the minors and they could not find anyone besides Wang to call up.

  49. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    “Michael Dunn has been so impressive that a member of the Yankees front office said he is throwing better than Phil Coke. Dunn has struck out 49 in 36 innings so far this year. Ironically he has fared better against right handed hitters than left.”

    He is, he can hit 96 or 97 on the gun if he’s really amped up. I said it since last season Michael Dunn will be better than Phil Coke, I saw Coke more like a #5 SP not really a shut down. Dunn has SU reliever written all over.

  50. NYYanksFan June 14th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    “Does this team need a players only meeting just to air things out ?”

    Pitch better.

    Meeting over.

  51. murphydog June 14th, 2009 at 11:11 am

    “After watching these games I personally blame Girardi. That is my opinion and if you don’t care for it then i could care less.”"

    Hey dude: part of posting here is standing up when what you write gets questioned, or when somebody posts a different point of view. Nobody got personal on you; the reaction was to the merit of your opinions. Grow up.

  52. RS June 14th, 2009 at 11:11 am

    “This team is painfully lost right now. Lots of time left but somebody needs to grab the wheel and right the ship.
    Not a peep from the front office although Cashman is probably in the early stages of talking moves in July.”

    The good thing is we still have one of the best records in baseball and are currently in a position to make the playoffs if the season ended today. As long as the Yankees don’t go into a tailspin the next few weeks, Cashman should be able to make a trade without other teams demanding too much because they think we’re desperate.

  53. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 11:11 am

    BBFan-

    Pettitte problems:

    He either cannot or will not pitch inside to lefties.
    His cutter has lost velocity-used to be around 93 mph.
    He doesn’t get the calls on the corners.
    His success at Yankee Stadium as a lefty, is gone, as obviously his home run rate there has frustrated him.
    He will not tell you when he is gassed or hurt, unlike Maddux who was honest with Mazzoni and Cox, about when he should be pulled from the game.

    Posada problems:

    Is it just me, or do others feel that he doesn’t frame pitches well, often not placing his glove in position until the pitcher starts his windup?
    His throws to second are inaccurate.
    Can’t really comment on his pitch calling unless I had access to the pitchers feelings, but there seems to be pitchers past and present who don’t like pitching to him. Maddux was the same way.
    He’s essentially suited to DH, but that position will be crowded this year with Matsui, Nady, Swisher, best suited there.

  54. an obervation June 14th, 2009 at 11:13 am

    It seems like Posada rises from his crouch slightly sooner than other catchers even if the pitch is low or in the middle which suggests to an umpire that the pitch is not a strike. By the time the ball lands in his mitt he’s started up already.

  55. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 11:13 am

    “Did Posada suffer from a brain injury that I haven’t heard of?

    I don’t know how game calling skills can diminish unless, well something is wrong with his brain.

    So after winning 1000 games as a catcher Posada has suddenly forgotten how to call games”

    Read my post at 10:42, if you have not yet.

    The issues is not with Posada of the past. It is about Posada of now.

    In the past he was at least average or slightly above average in containing the running game. Now with injuries and shoulder surgery he is not and trying to make up calling too many fast balls. That is reflecting in his bad game calling.

  56. murphydog June 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    ” “Does this team need a players only meeting just to air things out ?”

    Pitch better.

    Meeting over.”

    Amen. Play ball.

  57. murphydog June 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    “In the past he was at least average or slightly above average in containing the running game. Now with injuries and shoulder surgery he is not and trying to make up calling too many fast balls. That is reflecting in his bad game calling.”

    That is a criticism that was leveled against Pudge Rodriguez in the last few years of his career. Not sure if it’s right or wrong when it comes to Po.

    Seriously can’t for the life of me understand however why this wasn’t such a problem during the recent winning streak if Po’s style is such a problem.

  58. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:19 am

    I got to admit it is funny that ~who is Brian Bruney ? is getting under K-Rod’s skin :lol:

  59. benfica356 June 14th, 2009 at 11:19 am

    Mets

    Cora SS
    Fmart LF
    Beltran CF
    Wright 3B
    Church RF
    Sheffield DH
    Murphy 1B
    Schneider C
    Castillo 2B

  60. Glenn June 14th, 2009 at 11:19 am

    Any thoughts of Michael Dunn being called up may become reality if Damaso Marte is shut down for the year per his visit with Dr. Andrews in Birmingham.

  61. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    BBFan and Yankee Trader, I couldn’t agree more with your assessments.

    Catching is one of the most important positions in the game if not the most important.

  62. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Big time Glen, Mark Newman loves that guy, he’ll likely hit AAA soon and get 5 – 15 IP and then hit the Bronx.

  63. RS June 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    I think the biggest problem with this pitching staff is the inability to throw strikes.

    When a pitcher is up 0-1, 0-2 on most batters, the hitters are forced to swing early in the count.

    When the pitcher falls behing 2-0, 3-1, most hitters will sit there and take another pitch or two. That turns every AB into a 5-6 pitch AB, hence the high pitch counts and short outings.

    When was the last time a Yankees starter got through 7 innings on 90-95 pitches? Maybe CC has done that a few times, but hardly anyone else has. Those quick innings were a specialty of Wang’s, which is another reason we badly need him to return to form. Burnett and Joba give up too many walks and Pettitte allows a ton of baserunners. We need someone who can get through innings quickly and pitch deep into games. That helps the defense as well.

  64. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:24 am

    As far as I am aware George was coherent in 2004. Was Joe fired after that collapse? No, so stop this garbage that Joe G would be fired for going o for against the soxs.

  65. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Murph,

    Exactly. I love how its Posada’s fault, Cashman’s fault, Girardi’s fault, everybody’s fault except the pitchers, (who are the guys throwing the ball) for the pitching being so poor this week.

    People ripping on Posada’s gamecalling skills crack me up. The guy has caught all star pitchers, Hall of Fame pitchers, won rings, and caught no hitters. Now, he can’t call games anymore. The wonders of sofa scouts.

    Most of you have no idea what the game plan is for hitters each night. Nor do you know how many times guys shake off Posada and throw the wrong pitch. As was the case with Joba all Friday night.

    How about this “theory”?

    How about we have a 23 year old kid stop shaking off Posada as he continues to have trouble finding the plate? He’ not good enough to shake off Posada on almost every pitch.

    How about Andy Pettitte stop trying to earn his incentives and tell the manager he is hurting so he doesn’t continue to give up 2-3 baserunners per inning in his now 4-5 inning starts?

    How about AJ Burnett forget what happened in Boston in April and get back to attacking the strikezone?

    How about somebody, including Mariano, in the bullpen shut down teams for a change?

    How about Chien Ming Wang get back to being the Wang of old?

    Its not the catcher, manager, pitching coach, bullpen coach or man in the moon’s fault for this pitching staff struggles.

    Its up to the 12 guys on the staff to raise their games.

    If they do that, the brainstrust looks “smart” again.

    They can’t change the entire pitching staff at the trade deadline. If this is all these guys have to give, its not a playoff team.

    I happen to think they are better than they have shown this week.

    Every team has bad weeks in a baseball season. This week is the Yankees bad week.

    How they recover from it, will tell us whether they will be competitive all year. Something tells me they will survive this week and be in the race all year.

  66. RS June 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    “It seems like Posada rises from his crouch slightly sooner than other catchers even if the pitch is low or in the middle which suggests to an umpire that the pitch is not a strike. By the time the ball lands in his mitt he’s started up already.”

    I noticed that exact same thing. In the AB to David Wright the other day with Mo on the mound, the first pitch was right down the middle of the plate but Posada moved his glove away quickly and stood up. The pitch was called a ball, and after two swings and misses, Wright hit a double. He might have struck out if Posada had left his glove there and framed the pitch better (it didn’t even need to be “framed” as it was right on top of the plate).

  67. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    http://wolnews.com/front-page/.....-goes.html

    Moose wins award.

  68. AZBob June 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    Why not bring up Shelly Duncan to replace Berroa. His enthusiasm alone would be a plus. A spot stater (DH), pinch hitter. When was the last time Berroa played? Pena isn’t even getting any time now.

  69. dennis-costanza June 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    SJ.

    Congrats re: Tony. I read a few days ago that his signing bonus was 2.5mm. Tremendous. I would guess the whole process was pretty surreal for him. He is fortuante to have you as an uncle.

    -dennis

  70. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    BBFan – At Pettitte’s age, you have to wonder if this is the end of the line. You can pitch with decreased FB velocity, as long as you can control location, and you have another pitch or two. I’ve read that his cutter is very flat these days. Does this portend the end of the road? If you’re cold-blooded, you force the issue with Andy,then you just slot in Hughes or stretch out Aceves and move on.

    As far as Posada and his game calling, that I’d have to leave to Joe and the coaches, Pena and Eiland.

    One last thought. Re: – bringing Wang back in response to Joba’s being hit – How do we know it was Cash who wanted that? How do we know it wasn’t Joe/coaching staff who pushed for it? Did I miss something in the news?

  71. CB June 14th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    “Now with injuries and shoulder surgery he is not and trying to make up calling too many fast balls. That is reflecting in his bad game calling.”

    This is utterly baseless speculation of the worst kind with regards to sports because you are essentially arguing that Posada is now so selfish, and so self-centered that he is changing the way he calls games to aid his own personal performance rather than maximizing the chance of the team winning.

    Posada is so selfish that he’s putting his own personal concerns ahead of a 23 year old kid’s who is clearly struggling on the mound? Really?

    That’s a remarkable conclusion to draw and there is zero evidence to support it.

    Wild inference is not evidence. And if you can’t produce evidence all you have is mean spirited idle speculation that essentially impugn’s posada’s integrity.

    I have never, every heard some kind of theory comparing Posada to Ivan Rodriguez.

    The issue of Posada’s game calling skills has to be one of the more over blown subject in yankee discussions.

    There is nothing wrong with Posada’s game calling NOW.

    The idea that playing Posada at catcher every game possible doesn’t maximize the team’s chance of winning is absurd. He’s so good with the bat that even if he were as bad a catcher as Mike Piazza he should still be catching everyday.

    But Posada isn’t Piazza. He’s a fine defensive or game calling catcher. Not great. Not bad. He’s fine – even now. And combined with that bat he’s a phenomenal asset.

    Losing Posada last year and replacing him with Molina cost that team at least 5-6 wins. They finished 6 games out of the wild card.

    Remarkable how quickly people forget.

    Major league pitchers who can’t establish their fastballs get killed. That’s why Posada calls fastballs – he is right to do so. That’s particularly true for Joba.

    That Aceves – a guy posada has hardly worked with because he’s so new – shakes off a posada call means nothing. That’s just one anecdotal observation.

    To blame Posada for Andy’s awful stuff is preposterous. Andy had nothing yet again yesterday.

    And it will mean nothing if AJ happens to pitch well against today with Cervelli behind the plate. My goodness I hope he dominates this mets team – it’s a AAA quality line up for most of the spots. They are awful right now due to injuries.

    I think people have these mental boxes that creates this bias where they automatically assume good hitting catcher means he must be a bad defensive catcher.

    To one up that inference by saying Posada is so selfish that he’s putting his own interest in throwing out runners before the betterment of the team’s chances to win is remarkable.

  72. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    If you are going to fire a manager after a bad week, you are going to have a lot of turnover on teams each year.

    Sometimes, taking a deep breath, even on a blog, is ok.

    Joe Girardi isn’t getting fired this week. Nor should he.

    In case you haven’t seen the standings, if the season ended today, the Yankees are the WC team. Managers don’t get fired for being that “bad”. Especially after missing the playoffs last year.

    Contain your inner-80′s Steinbrenner. In case some of you are neglectful of history, the Yankees didn’t win anything in the 80′s when George was acting like a petulent child posting on a blog.

    Good teams, and good organizations, have stability.

  73. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 11:32 am

    SJ44-

    Great points, but explain the “game plan” and how bottom of the order hitters are winning games for their teams-Dillon, Kottaras, Aybar, to name a few recently.

    “Most of you have no idea what the game plan is for hitters each night.”

  74. brent June 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    *Frustrated Fan* the errors started with Posada,he broke the streak himself.Now there’s error a game.

    When a catcher calls a bad pitch,and the pitcher throws it,the fielder are stuck trying to fix the mistake.

    I agree that the Yankees rely on the long ball too much.When the bats are silent,Joe should manufacture runs,that’s not just bunting.It’s double steals, steals,sacfly,et al.

    *Someone said La Russa’s contract is up this year.* If the Yankees signed him two things come.He brings small ball like you’ve never seen to the Bronx and *He brings Shelly’s* *dad,David Duncan,pitching coach exstrodinaire*.
    Before you bash La Russa,he has the most wins of any coach playing now.

    Cashman is a moot point now,a two hundred million payroll and he still can’t get the job done.

  75. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    “Seriously can’t for the life of me understand however why this wasn’t such a problem during the recent winning streak if Po’s style is such a problem.”

    Wasn’t Posada still on DL during most of that successful run?

  76. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    SJ44, did you ever think that the Yankees won world series championships, in spite of Posada? Maybe the Yankees would of won more ws championships in the 2000′s if they had a better signal caller.

  77. RS June 14th, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Hopefully it’s just a coincidence the team started playing bad baseball when the Red Sox and Mets came up on the schedule.

    As much as we hate playing poorly against our rivals, could you imagine if the Yankees were losing this way to the Orioles or Nats? I’m sure the consensus then would be the Yankees aren’t even playoff contenders.

  78. The Voice of Reason June 14th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    Perfect…..have Gardner get 2 out of the 5 hits we got yesterday so we can bench him today. While he is not a great hitter, he is very streaky as he has shown previously. Wow!

  79. A.B.K June 14th, 2009 at 11:37 am

    BRUNEY AND K-ROD WERE JUST FIGHTING ON THE FIELD

  80. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:37 am

    On twitter someone said K-rod confronted Bruney during BP. If k-rod doesn’t know who Bruney is how did he find him?

  81. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 11:38 am

    “How about we have a 23 year old kid stop shaking off Posada as he continues to have trouble finding the plate? He’ not good enough to shake off Posada on almost every pitch.”

    Have to agree there. Who’s Joba to shake off Posada every two pitches? It was annoying to see, especially when he couldn’t throw anything for a strike. And like SJ pointed out, and others have pointed out, Jorge has caught monumental games in Yankee history. Let him call the shots behind the plates with a rook like Joba, let Joba have at least a season of consistency before he starts demanding to call all the shots on the mound.

    Before the Boston series, I predicted the Yanks would go 2-4 through the weekend. Actually, I said wouldn’t be worried if they went 2-4. I think they can pull off a win today and get back to doing well.

  82. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:38 am

    ABK- Verbal? or physical?

  83. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:39 am

    “Why not bring up Shelly Duncan to replace Berroa”

    B/c he can’t hit anything that’s not a fastball and can’t field. Shelley is a DH in a land of 1,000 DHs, most likely a summer trade will happen and Berroa’s place on the 40 becomes useful for someone else.

  84. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:39 am

    “BRUNEY AND K-ROD WERE JUST FIGHTING ON THE FIELD”

    You serious :lol:

  85. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Wait there’s a fight on the field?

  86. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    “Perfect…..have Gardner get 2 out of the 5 hits we got yesterday so we can bench him today. While he is not a great hitter, he is very streaky as he has shown previously. Wow!”

    Interestingly, lefties have hit for a higher average against Santana the last two years, but not by that much to count.

  87. G June 14th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    I dont uderstand why the yankees sed down Veras and call up Zachary Kroenke. Look at what hes done in AAA:

    http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=476127

  88. RS June 14th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    I have a feeling Berroa might just be on the roster until interleague is over. When the Yankees play in NL parks, Pena becomes the primary pinch-runner (assuming Gardner gets a few starts) and Berroa becomes the backup in case Girardi wants to give one of the infielders a rest.

  89. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    BRUNEY JUST GOT KNOCKED OUT

  90. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    K-ROD IS NOW POINTING TO THE SKY

  91. A.B.K June 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Yes my friend is in stadium and he saw it live, wait for Pete to update.

  92. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    I’m sorry, I can’t take it anymore. I have to be honest here. Posada to me, is everything wrong with the Yankees. He has terrible communication with his pitchers, doesn’t frame his glove for anyone, pitchers don’t want him as their catcher, calls a terrible game and in a simple sense, is just plain awful. The Yankees have a better record with other catchers catching then with Posada behind the plate.

    Here’s my prediction. The Yankees will never win a world series again with Posada behind the plate. Once he leaves, expect some world series championships but until then, expect to have your heart broken.

  93. Hank June 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am

    Stability, huh?

    Well, the Yanks are all for stability even if it makes no sense. Berroa being on the roster shows stability, even though he contributes nothing. Same with Veras.

    Heck, even the Milwaukee Brewers demand more from their players than the Yanks. They sent Manny Parra to the minors after another miserable start. The Yanks will continue to run Pettitte out there with his 88 mph dead fastball all season long.

  94. G June 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am

    Posada shouldnt catch anymore. He is bad wuith pitchers. He wants them to pitch his game. But hes not the one out there. He calls bad pitches and when the pitcher is struggling he just gets more frustrated and gets mad at the pitcher. Molina or Cervailli let the pitcher relax, calm him down, and call the pitches the pitcher wants. Thats why there so good. posada has to DH already.

  95. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am

    No, teams don’t win titles “in spite of” their all star catcher so, that’s not a real theory.

    If you are concerned about “bottom of the order hitters” having big hits, do you think teams feel the same way when Melky Cabrera a, “bottom of the order” hitter, wins games for the Yankees?

    That’s baseball. These guys are all major league players. Sometimes, they get hits.

    That’s not the catchers fault when they do.

  96. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am

    So K-Rod went to Scranton to face Bruney and knock him out!!LOL

  97. A.B.K June 14th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    I’m not joking

  98. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    “BRUNEY JUST GOT KNOCKED OUT
    K-ROD IS NOW POINTING TO THE SKY”

    Awesome

  99. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    “BRUNEY JUST GOT KNOCKED OUT”

    Will never believe that, I’m sorry but K-Rod can’t fight, he talks the talk but he ain’t a fighter.

  100. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    CB,

    As much as you are a respected poster here, all you care about is about statistics, sometimes meaningless. When people write thier point using similar statistics, you belittle them, like ERA when Poisada is behind the plate.

    The bottom line is when Posada is behind the plate the team is uder performing. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the pitchers, as they seem to be doing better when Posada is not behind the plate. Can you come up with your statistical reasons why it is so? For once, try doing it without belittling people becuase they do not agree with your point of view.

  101. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Yankee Trader

    Brian is with the team. I read that K-rod confronted Bruney I did not read that there was a physical confrontation.

  102. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    I’m waiting for :

    Bruney challenged K-Rod to a fight under the O’Neill banner at high noon.

    K-Rod responded “Who’s O’Neill?”

  103. RS June 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Coke, Robertson, and Aceves have done well the past few weeks. Slowly, our bullpen is improving but we just need that one dominant set-up man. If Bruney can return strong and be that guy, and the starters can start going deep into games more, our entire pitching staff should improve tremendously. Oh yeah, and Wang has to start pitching like Wang.

  104. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    “Posada shouldnt catch anymore. He is bad wuith pitchers. He wants them to pitch his game. But hes not the one out there. He calls bad pitches and when the pitcher is struggling he just gets more frustrated and gets mad at the pitcher. Molina or Cervailli let the pitcher relax, calm him down, and call the pitches the pitcher wants. Thats why there so good.”

    Well said without meaningless statistics :)

  105. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    I’m waiting for :

    Bruney challenged K-Rod to a fight under the O’Neill banner at high noon.

    K-Rod responded “Who’s O’Neill?”
    *********

    You are funny!

  106. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    That’s a very insightful post Sean.

    “His” game is the game the TEAM wants him to call, based on the scouting reports they have on each opponent.

    Posada just doesn’t decide on his own what game will be called behind the plate.

    “He’s everything that’s wrong about the Yankees”. Probably the most nonsensical statement written on this blog in a very long time.

    Really? Jorge Posada, probably the #1 reason why they didn’t make the playoffs, is now, “everything that’s wrong with the Yankees”? That’s nonsense.

    One of the things that’s “wrong” with the Yankees is its moronic fan base that know nothing about the game and trash players blindly based on the results of the day’s events.

    Its comical to me to read some of this nonsense.

    Jorge Posada isn’t what’s “wrong” with the Yankees.

    They are in second place TWO games out of first, with 99 games left, and you folks want to sell he’s a problem?

    Man, even Larry David can’t write such comedy.

  107. G June 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Well explain why Posada’s CERA is 6.33 and Cervelli’s is a 4.37 and Molina’s is a 3.49. Stats dont lie. i already knew this before i just looked at the stats.

  108. A.B.K June 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Got a report, K-Rod walked up to Bruney during BP, Veras came between them and blocked them, then everybody gathered together and seperate them, no physical fights.

  109. Mo June 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    BBFan, Jorge’s CERA numbers for his career are about the same as those for his backups over that span. So unless he forgot how to call games overnight, I would say the numbers this year have a lot to do with Jorge catching Wang a number of times.

  110. Betsy June 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Great posts, SJ and CB – I couldn’t have said it better. People want to blame Eiland, Joe, Jorge, ANYONE other than the players and it’s sad. I have no proof that Andy is pitching in discomfort simply because of his incentives- actually, I put that all on the Yankees. IF he is, then they have no business allowing him to pitch. They ought to DL him even if he squawks. IF they are letting the guy dictate their actions, then it’s their own darn fault. Aside from that, Andy is old and he seems to have lost a lot – stuff and control are severely diminished. That is not anyone’s fault except Andy’s and father time’s – not Jorge’s, not anyone. The same goes for everyone else – just execute the pitches, it’s not that hard. If a vet wants to shake off Jorge, do it – and then make sure you throw that pitch WHERE you want it.

    I’m not a fan of the homer happy offense – this is the same team that they were last year, the year before, they year before., Despite having excellent hitters (and no real slugger – Alex is not a pure slugger, he’s too good for that), they just are not good at executing the fundamentals. This is why they struggle against good teams…..and why even if they get into the playoffs, I don’t think they will advance. They will face good pitching and you know they will squander the few opportunites they do get. This is just their pattern, and it was the same way even in their torrid stretch. Saving their runs for the late innings works against struggling or bad relievers. That said, the lineup is just in a collective slump – they’ll come out of it. The SP? It’s been two months and it’s still mediocre. The pen? How many arms can the Yankees possibly trade for? Not enough as far as I’m concerned.

  111. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    SJ44-

    I’m not saying its the catchers fault when a relative unknown like Dillon goes 4-4, unlike Cabrera who’s been in the majors 4 years.

    Also another relative unknown in Nieve shuts them down.

    Is this insufficient scouting, or something else?

    Why does the Phillies highest rated pitcher, Bastardo get bombed by the Red Sox. Do they have better scouting, or just plain better hitters?

  112. Betsy June 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    RS, that’s not true at all. Everyone was so happy during the 4-2 homestand, but the Yankees did not play that well. They got a gift win against Tampa and in most of those games made errors and bad baserunning mistakes. Their SP wasn’t so great, either.

  113. brent June 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    *BBFan* thank you for the stat comment,relying on them is what got the Yankees in this mess.They are all under performing their *STATS*

  114. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    SJ44

    Hey he is the reason we didn’t make the playoffs last year! After all he wasn’t on the field. :P

    WE finally found a place for Veras. He stopped a fight.!!

  115. Betsy June 14th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    I thought Bruney was in Trenton…..I hope this is a joke. I hate Brian right now – what an idiot for starting this, and then continuing it when the media asked him about it.

  116. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    “Got a report, K-Rod walked up to Bruney during BP, Veras came between them and blocked them, then everybody gathered together and seperate them, no physical fights.”

    DFA Veras NOW ! :x

  117. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    No BBFan, the team isn’t “underperforming” with Posada behind the plate. They had a bad week. Are you not capable of distinguishing that over underperformance?

    He’s going to catch most of the games. That means, when they lose, he’s going to be behind the plate.

    You can’t honestly believe that Francisco Cervelli is now a better catcher than Jorge Posada, can you?

    The idea that a catcher, or a team, lets a pitcher “call his own game” is not accurate.

    Very few pitchers want to call their own game because they aren’t good at it. There aren’t ANY 23 year old starters in the game who are given the chance to “call their own game”.

    They can shake off occasionally. However, teams don’t like when they shake off all the time because pitchers usually lose their consistency when they do.

    Just about every post on here today ripping Posada for his gamecalling skills come from folks who know nothing about gamecalling. They are just upset the Yankees lost a bunch of games this week and are looking for a scapegoat.

  118. CB June 14th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    “The bottom line is when Posada is behind the plate the team is uder performing. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the pitchers, as they seem to be doing better when Posada is not behind the plate.”

    So when Joba threw that dominant 8 inning game with Posada behind the plate we should ignore that but we should only notice the 4 inning disaster that was Joba’s last outing?

    We should discount the fact that Posada happened to catch the vast majority of Wang’s starts when we look at how ERA is correlated with who is catching?

  119. Rose June 14th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    And the Posada bashing continues. No matter what you say, Posada is not the “scapegoat” for the pitchers problems.

  120. G June 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Posada used to be not bad but hes grown older and become more stubborn bcause hes a veteran. i think its more so the pitcher dont like him than he calls a bad game.

  121. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 14th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Betsy, Bruney was back from Trenton and at YS for yesterday’s game

  122. CB June 14th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    “The bottom line is when Posada is behind the plate the team is uder performing. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the pitchers, as they seem to be doing better when Posada is not behind the plate.”

    The bottom line is when Girardi is managing the team it is underperforming. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the players, as they seem to be doing better when Torre and not Girardi are in the dugout.

  123. Betsy June 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    That said, K-Rod should have left this alone today.

  124. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    SJ44, I believe that Francisco Cervelli is a superior game caller than Jorge Posada. It’s not even close. Hands down Cervelli is better.

  125. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    In my opinion of course.

  126. Bob(The Original) June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    Seriously, it’s like most of the people here have never followed a baseball season before.

    The stupidity and ignorance is really embarrassing to be a part of.

  127. Dassit June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    maybe CC can get Jerry Lawler to sneak up behind K-Rod and bodyslam him

  128. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    I love Posada man but something isn’t right. We need Molina back asap.

  129. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    SJ44, I believe that Francisco Cervelli is a superior game caller than Jorge Posada. It’s not even close. Hands down Cervelli is better.

    ****

    You do realize that pitches are also called from the bench.

  130. RS June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    For those who say Posada caught all those pitchers during the Yankees championships, think about the pitchers who were great during that time: Pettitte, Wells, Cone, Clemens, El Duque, Nelson, Stanton, Rivera, etc.

    Those guys were all VETERANS, except for Pettitte and Mo. But Posada also caught Pettitte in the minors for years, and Mo only throws one pitch, so anyone can call him.

    Now I’m not trying to say Posada doesn’t call a good game, because truthfully I can’t give much insight into that aspect of baseball. But I do think there’s a difference in crafty veterans/HOF pitchers doing well with Posada and then rookies like Hughes and Chamberlain or a less polished pitcher like Burnett struggling with him behind the plate.

  131. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Thanks a lot Dennis. I really appreciate it.

    He’s off to Bradenton for extended ST until Thursday. Then off to Charleston WVA to make his pro debut Friday night.

    He’s in Charleston for 3 days, and then heads to State College for 3 days of games because Charleston will be on their All Star Break. He will then head to Wichita for the Johnny Bench Award Dinner before returning to Charleston on the 27th to finish the year with that club.

    Going to be a whirlwind time and he’s enjoying every minute of it!

  132. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    “How about we have a 23 year old kid stop shaking off Posada as he continues to have trouble finding the plate? He’ not good enough to shake off Posada on almost every pitch.

    How about Andy Pettitte stop trying to earn his incentives and tell the manager he is hurting so he doesn’t continue to give up 2-3 baserunners per inning in his now 4-5 inning starts?

    How about AJ Burnett forget what happened in Boston in April and get back to attacking the strikezone?

    How about somebody, including Mariano, in the bullpen shut down teams for a change?

    How about Chien Ming Wang get back to being the Wang of old?”

    Good points.
    But how about that any catcher will look good if all that happens :)

  133. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Carl June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    I love Posada man but something isn’t right. We need Molina back asap.

    ***************

    How did the Yankees do with Jose as the primary catcher last year? Oh that’s right we missed the playoffs.

  134. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    K-Rod: “Who youshutyoface”

    Bruney: “Huh ?” (points to the sky) :lol:

  135. Betsy June 14th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    Thanks, Fran!

  136. Bob(The Original) June 14th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    Carl
    June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am
    I love Posada man but something isn’t right. We need Molina back asap.

    —————————————-

    Wow. I think I officially done reading comments here.

  137. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    “You do realize that pitches are also called from the bench.”

    Not really. There would be alot of sign stealing that way.

  138. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Any comments on Joel Sherman’s article today?

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....174191.htm

  139. franky b June 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    could sergio mitre help us in the bullpen.

  140. AZBob June 14th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Oh, I forgot no one has a curve ball in AAA, Duncan’s 20 dingers were all on fastballs!

  141. G June 14th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=476127

    Zachary Kroenke could help us in the bullpen

  142. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Is Mitre now eligible to come off his 50 game suspension?

  143. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    “Oh, I forgot no one has a curve ball in AAA, Duncan’s 20 dingers were all on fastballs!”

    About time you remember. And yes he’s trade bait, a AAAA player.

  144. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    “The bottom line is when Girardi is managing the team it is underperforming. Do not use the lame excuse that it is the players, as they seem to be doing better when Torre and not Girardi are in the dugout.”

    Your hatred for Girardi is well known.
    You always question his moves even when 99% of the ML managers would make the same move. But, that is your right to say.

    As knowledgeble as you are, did it occur to you that it is the pitchers who throw the ball not Girardi? lol.

    And Yeah, Torre took us to the promised land in the last 7 years with the highest payroll in the game.

  145. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    Carl June 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    I love Posada man but something isn’t right. We need Molina back asap.

    ***************

    How did the Yankees do with Jose as the primary catcher last year? Oh that’s right we missed the playoffs.

    Because you know we didn’t miss 30 starts from Joba and Wang. That doesn’t count right. Who said I wanted Jose as our main catcher? Jose can call a game, throw out runners, and can catch Joba.

  146. Sid June 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Trader,

    Sherman is right. If they continue to rely on the HR, it is going to kill them.

  147. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Veras was told by Girardi to go home for stepping between Bruney and K-Rod and not knocking the little weasel out!!

  148. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Sherman, he’s the doom and gloom reporter, almost every article is negative. I read him for fun or when I’m pissed at the team. But I take his insight with a grain of salt.

  149. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    this year is not business as usual.

    it’s make the playoffs or management people and coaches will be fired including cashman.

    as long as the team is in a comfortable position in the standings all’s well.

    but when things get in a danger zone like right now, the pressure increases on people who are at risk to be fired.

    there are about 20 games to the half way mark.

    no way did the yankees spend what they spent this past winter to not be in a good position for making the playoffs at the half way mark.

    so these next 20 games are critical for the team and for management personnel and coaches.

    fair or not , there will be people let go if the players don’t play well.

  150. IRISH BRIGADE June 14th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Just to bring up a point which if it was mentioned I did not see it.
    Yankee starters have been dreadfull in the last week or more. We have heard different reasons for this occurring. Some blame has been on Posada. Others have blamed Joe Giradi. Why has Eiland escaped any criticism? He is the pitching coach, everyone is quick to blame the manager. These guys are all proffessionals. Or is it another series of dumb pitching decisions on Cashman’s part?

  151. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    “Wow. I think I officially done reading comments here.”

    You’ll be back, Bob. We know it. ;)

  152. SandMan June 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    A homer happy offense is not going to get it done in the postseason or against good pitching.

    Yeah, they are going to hit 4+ bombs off guys like Livan. You think they will do the same off Lester or Beckett?

  153. Manimal June 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Where is this video you speak of pete?

  154. Gates June 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Veras pitched 2 scoreless innings yesterday AND broke up a fight?

    Great, that guys him another month on the team.

  155. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Jesus….it just dawned on me who Carl really is. It’s Carl Spackler.

  156. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Agree with Randy I.
    They better produce.
    If they fall out of contention by trade deadline, heads will roll, starting with Eiland and Girardi possibly next.
    Cashman will somehow survive.

  157. SBS0311 June 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Yeah, I can’t find that video on the website. Where is it?

  158. Kim June 14th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    They just showed some video of the K-Rod/Bruney thing on the BP show on yes.

  159. dave554 June 14th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    “June 14th, 2009 at 10:13 am
    Check out this article on Wang and his release points
    http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....se-points/

    Is it not true that pitchers have complained about the rubber at Yankee stadium and that either that or the mound are slightly different than other ballparks?

    I heard that somewhere on this blog and a reader pointed out that that, along with the camera angles, should account for his release point changes. But I suppose the only way to tell is to track other release points at the stadium, and only at the stadium, to see what’s going on.

  160. Peter Abraham June 14th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    The video is not on his blog yet. He’s at the game.

  161. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    So unnecessary to pick a fight, especially someone as insignificant as Bruney.

    This is like when Shelly Duncan tried to retaliate against the Rays in Spring Training.

  162. Zach June 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Wow, how does KRod let Bruney get in his head like that?
    That’s like Pablo Sandoval calling out Tex for something, get over it

  163. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    “Yeah, I can’t find that video on the website. Where is it?”

    I think Pete was plugging the blog, not linking the video, the guy probably took a video on his cell phone at the game.

  164. Rafael June 14th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    if K-rod doesn’t now who Bruney is, how he triied to confront bruney?

  165. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    K-Rod’s an idiot. I liked Bruney’s comments, kinda outta nowhere, but I liked it nonetheless.

  166. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Pete for the love of god plug it into your blog.

  167. 4time June 14th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Atleast Bruney had the common sense to show restraint today.

    I would have thought Bruney would throw punches and get suspended (or get hurt again). He hasn’t shown himself to be the sharpest tool in the shed.

  168. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    K-Rod is the one looking for a fight. Bruney can say whatever he wants. Or anybody else. Freedom of speech.
    Not sure why K-Rod is so upset just because one doesn’t like his after the save celebrations.
    Tell them to stick it and move on.

  169. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Personally, I think the K-Rod-Bruney stuff is great.

    Bruney just said what a lot of guys feel. If K-Rod has a problem with it, that’s life.

    Good stuff. Maybe it will wake up the team.

  170. Franco June 14th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Pie Man needs to pitch a big ball game today

    He has been awful in big games and is not getting it done

  171. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    “We should discount the fact that Posada happened to catch the vast majority of Wang’s starts when we look at how ERA is correlated with who is catching?”

    Yesterday some one was kind enough to discount Wang’s starts and calculate the ERAs. The pattern still holds.

  172. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    BREAKING: Mets have acquired infielder Javier Castillo from the White Sox, and have assigned him to Triple-A Buffalo. The 25-yr old Castillo hit 262-.319-.387 in 182 plate appearances for Triple-A Charlotte this year.

    This could be the turning point.

    j/k

  173. Mac June 14th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Any link for the YES pre-game show? Or they don’t upload it on their website?

  174. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Little Frankie is a sensitive fellow I see.
    I’m surprised other players don’t try to get in his head.

    Did K-Rod walk out on the field with a Bruney baseball card trying to match up faces?

  175. AZ Dan June 14th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Kind of funny how a nobody like Bruney is calling out the best closer in baseball

    That would be like Nick Green saying Derek Jeter is overrated

  176. brent June 14th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    MLB

    will let it go,They only fine the Yankees.
    The blind eye is in for the other teams.

  177. R-Tek June 14th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    “So, yes, the Stadium has become an issue within the organization. Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.”

    Are you kidding me?

  178. Erik Sec. 309 June 14th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    anyone know any special prayers that may help the Yanks batters against Johan. Considering they couldn’t even hit Nieves, They may need some divine intervention.

  179. brent June 14th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    You don’t get up in a persons grill in their yard,not for nothing.Bring it!!

  180. Dave June 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Fire Dave Eiland now. A comment like that is ridiculous.

  181. Papa Smurf June 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    I thought that pig K-Rod didn’t know who Bruney was?

  182. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    “So, yes, the Stadium has become an issue within the organization. Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.”

    What about the opposition?
    They play the game in the same park.
    The staff that gives less runs wins the games with every thing being equal.
    Eiland better shut up his mouth and get his pitchers right, if not he won’t be here long.

  183. Viper 77 June 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Erik,

    All starts with Mr. Whipped Cream. If he puts them in a early hole, it’s over.

    Not going to be easy to score runs at all today.

  184. Papa Smurf June 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Dave
    June 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
    Fire Dave Eiland now. A comment like that is ridiculous.

    ———————————————————

    Eiland is a moron I guess Fenway park was in the pitchers head when Wang and Burnett had no control and couldn’t throw strikes.

  185. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    “anyone know any special prayers that may help the Yanks batters against Johan.”

    Yanks don’t need prayers for batters, they need it for AJ and co. I think they’ll be fine against Santana.

  186. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Are Red Sox pitchers afraid to throw strikes at Fenway Park? Last I checked, that’s a hitters ballpark.

    If the staff uses the ballpark as an excuse, how do they explain all the walks and bad counts on roadtrips this year?

    I hate hearing that because if that’s in guy’s heads, its a problem.

    They have had problems throwing strikes all year, everywhere. Its not just confined to Yankee Stadium.

    I don’t see opposing teams walking so many Yankee hitters in the new ballpark.

    I understand the frustration when you make a good pitch and a guy hits a ball out that should be a routine flyball.

    However, you can say the same for pitchers at Fenway, Coors Field, Citizens Bank, etc.

    Sounds like an excuse for poor pitching to me.

    Next, folks will blame Posada for the stadium construction.

  187. Eric June 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Sergio Mitre has completed his 50 game suspension and is now pitching at Scanton/ Wilkes-Barre.

    http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=429901

  188. Betsy June 14th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    So what exactly happened? K-Rod searched Bruney out? Did they come close to throwing punches? Whatever- thankfully Veras stepped in. Bruney is an idiot and K-Rod just tried to make things worse.

  189. Trev June 14th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    “So, yes, the Stadium has become an issue within the organization. Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.”

    What a great comment! Says a lot about the mental makeup of the pitchers too if that is true.

  190. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    What about the road? They’re not throwing many strikes on the road either.

  191. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    From Bronx Banter:
    If there’s good news, it’s that after posting a 0.78 ERA over his first seven starts, Santana has been human over his last five, posting a 4.64 and giving up eight home runs, including four to the Phillies his last time out.

  192. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    The BP show only showed K-Rod being held back by one of the Mets. I didn’t even see Bruney in the pic.

  193. Betsy June 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Wow, I agree that Eiland has to go after making that comment. I do think the park is in Andy’s head and maybe AJ’s – but that is their problem. On the other hand, if the pitching coach is encouraging that line of thinking – that’s inexcusable.

  194. XFactor June 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Great logic.

    Rather than throwing strikes and giving up solo bombs… they will walk guys to give up bombs with runs on base.

  195. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    If the park is the reason why our pitchers are afraid to throw strikes they should be traded/released now.

  196. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    “anyone know any special prayers that may help the Yanks batters against Johan. Considering they couldn’t even hit Nieves, They may need some divine intervention.”

    Which Santana are we afraid of?
    The one that gave up four homers the last time out, or the one that lost to Pittsburgh the time before that?

    Santana has given up 11 homers this year. I think it will be 14 by the end of the day.

    AJ just needs to show up and pitch well for once.

  197. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    The only thing MLB is going to do is suspend Bruney for violently attacking F. Rodriguez undefended hands.

  198. Brian Bruney Supporter June 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Hahahaha. Bruney would work K-Rod in a fight. It’s too bad Veras was there to hold him back. Can’t wait to see the video.

    Although Bruney doesn’t really need to get suspended, I hope that they go at it sometime soon cause I too think that K-Rod has a tired act.

  199. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    So funny Brian stood there just watching K-rod act like a moron. Would love to see K-rod get suspended for shoving Brian. :)

  200. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    So Eiland is blaming the ballpark? LOL. so when I fail at work I’ll blame mt desk, it’s not conducive to me working well.

    Maybe Eiland should talk to Buck Showalter who said, “you know how to keep those HRs from flying out of Yankee Stadium? PITCH BETTER!”

  201. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    “What about the road? They’re not throwing many strikes on the road either.”

    Well, on the road, it’s Jorge’s fault. ;)

  202. Henry June 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Pete i just saw the video, Krod didnt make any contact with bruney. He tried to push away from his teammates, MLB has no reason to look into this. Stop trying to hype it more than what it already is.

  203. Eastport June 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Andy and AJ admitted the park was in their head. Check out that Newsday article after the Phillies series. There was one with quotes from Andy recently in the Daily News too.

    Joba also made a comment that “you just have to learn to deal with it” or something to that affect.

    Nothing new here. Eliand just saying what the other guys have already said subtly.

  204. brent June 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    RS are handing it to the Phillies,2 straight so far.

  205. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    “No BBFan, the team isn’t “underperforming” with Posada behind the plate. They had a bad week.”

    SJ, I hope you are right and I am wrong for the good of the team.
    Time will tell.

  206. Spotless June 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Yeah, Eliand should be fired because the PITCHERS are intimidated by the ballpark :?

  207. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    So what? this is your f’ing ballpark. Man up and PITCH. How are the opposing pitchers doing in the VERY SAME ballpark? Indirectly Andy & AJ are saying that the offense stinks then?

  208. Ghost June 14th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    brent,

    The sane Phillies team that was one Brad Lidge implosion away from sweeping us away at home right in the middle of our hottest streak of the year.

  209. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    “Little Frankie is a sensitive fellow I see.
    I’m surprised other players don’t try to get in his head.

    Did K-Rod walk out on the field with a Bruney baseball card trying to match up faces?”

    DT that’s hilarious :lol:

  210. Jeff NJ - Wang Relief June 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Posada demanded that they build the stadium with shorter walls so that he could catch the all time HR record for catchers!!!!!

    Even Selena Roberts might think she heard something about that possibly being true!

  211. Ed June 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    A fringe reliever talking smack to an elite closer is going to fire up the team?

    Where do you come up with this stuff? Is that going to make AJ pitch better today?

  212. Papa Smurf June 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Its a simple decision with the stadium, take out the first 5 rows in the outfield, push the bullpen fences back by 5 feet and raise the fences by 2 feet.

    Stadium fixed

  213. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    DT- needs to take his comedy act on the road.

  214. brent June 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    This whole thing was fanned up by the sports media,they kept it going,Pete included.

  215. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    But it’s true if he doesn’t know who Brian Bruney is how did he find him :lol:

  216. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Is it me or just all “Rod’s” are drama queens. A-Rod, K-Rod…

  217. brent June 14th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    YES the very same team.

  218. Erik Sec. 309 June 14th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    How about they pie Burnett if he throws less than 25 pitches in the 1st?

  219. V Torch June 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Andy Pettitte vs. Josh Johnson next Friday

    And Wang vs. John Lannen on Tuesday

  220. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Yet another pitcher with a better ERA under a catcher not named Posada….according to the stats kim jones just stated.

  221. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    So Kim Jones just said that Cervelli was matched with AJ on purpose to give him some more “comfort” and noted that AJ’s ERA with Po catching is 7+. Wow. Posada must be pissed.

  222. AZTravos June 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    People on the DL should be seen, not heard.

  223. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Question? If AJ pitches a gem today, will it be a product of 5 days rest? posada not catching him? Or something else? Thoughts?

  224. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Way to pick on the heart of the team…the Posada haters are ridiculous, misguided and annoying.

  225. frits June 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    In the words of the immortal Alex Belth of Bronx Banter:

    “KRod is a f*cking son of a b*tch”

  226. Clint June 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    lol YES mentions Posada’s 7 ERA with Cervelli

  227. CB June 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    “As knowledgeble as you are, did it occur to you that it is the pitchers who throw the ball not Girardi? lol. ”

    As knowledgeble as you are, did it occur to you that it is the pitchers who throw the ball not Posada? lol.

    All I did in my prior post was to substitute Girardi’s name for Posada’s from your prior post to illustrate the logic of your underlying proposition. That’s it.

    Interesting how simply substituting one name for another completely changes your take on the situation.

    I don’t think this team’s performance over the past 1 1/4 is due to Girardi in any meaninful way. I don’t particularly think Torre would have made this team play better at all. I’d guess it would be more or less the same. Girardi is fine as a manager. He’s fairly conventional and about average as afar as managers go.

    I was simply illustrating the absurdity of saying that when two things are associated one has to cause the other.

    So according to you it’s fine to blame Posada for the pitching staff and fine for you to argue that the team would be better off if Cervelli/ Molina were catching more but it’s completely wrong to argue (without any of those dreaded stats) that the team’s performance should be attributed to Girardi and that since the team clearly achieved more with Torre than Girardi it is Girardi’s fault that say they missed the playoffs for the first time in years?

    The logic of both assertions is analogous. My eyes tell me that when Posada catches the team’s pitchers are worse than when Molina catches. My eyes tell me that when Torre managed the team the team won more and performed better than when Girardi manages.

  228. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    7era…..Wow. So, its merely coincidence that our starters gets smacked around when posada catches them.

  229. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    If you want to pick on Posada the numbers are there to….its simple.

  230. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Yes, Benny.

  231. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    “So Kim Jones just said that Cervelli was matched with AJ on purpose to give him some more “comfort” and noted that AJ’s ERA with Po catching is 7+. Wow. Posada must be pissed.”

    If AJ pithces very well today with Cervelli receiving, it will have a snow ball effect. Then there will be pressure to always pair him with Cervelli. If that happens and AJ continues to pitch well, it will create serious isues to Girardi on selection of catcher for each game. It will be no win situaiton for Girardi who is loyal to verterans just like Torre.

  232. m June 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Haven’t we dispelled the myth that pitches are called from the bench?

    When Cervelli caught CC’s gem in his major league debut, he and CC got together before the game and got on the same page. That’s where I heard that the game-calling was not from the bench.

    Bruney is in K-rod’s head. K-rod’s officially a dope now.

    I hope the Yankees respond to being punked on their own field. Just don’t bean anyone.

  233. Nick June 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    If AJ pitches well today… then he found his personal catcher.

    CC can pitch to anyone. Andy can pitch to anyone (albeit, badly), Wang can pitch to anyone when he is right.

    Burnett is the weakest link on the staff. If he needs a personal catcher to get him in a groove, so be it.

  234. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Agreed, Nick…it’s A.J.’s thing – that’s not on Posada.

  235. m June 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    I don’t think there will be any poor effect at all.

    AJ wasn’t comfortable with Jorge from the get go. But Girardi purposely (and rightfully) went away from the personal catcher route. He even used the words “personal catcher”.

    Let’s see if it works.

    Yes, major league pitchers are supposed to be able to work with anyone. But AJ won’t be the first if he has a preference.

  236. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Andy was the one who said he didn’t want Ivan catching his games last year.

  237. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    So, Cash – who I think had little input on the Stadium design and construction – is turfing questions on the new Stadium to Levine and Trost (who was the subject of a Journal News feature story on his control of the construction). Sounds pretty appropraite to me.

    And if Eiland gave that answer, then it is an issue. But that doesn’t explain how poorly pitched two of the three games in Boston were.

    People have to throw strikes. Period.

  238. DTX 23 June 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    “I hope the Yankees respond to being punked on their own field. Just don’t bean anyone.”

    If the team has any guts, they will.

    Of course, if AJ takes them out of the game in the 2nd inning it may not matter. But it’s about time this team shows some toughness. They have been smacked around this week, on and off the field.

  239. .... June 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Johan today 9inn 3 hits 1 bb 0er 10k

  240. Tank June 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Carl,

    The entire Detroit staff hated him, that’s why they got rid of him.

  241. .... June 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    incontrast Burnett 5inn 4hits 5bb 5Er 4k

  242. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    AJ 2.1 innings 6 walks 0 ks 9er

  243. Erik Sec. 309 June 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    The Yanks just have to man up. They have played like a bunch of sissies since the start of the Sox series. It’s starting to get embarassing to watch.

  244. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    BBFan –

    I think Moose set the trend last season with Molina. I like Posada and don’t think it’s fair that he’s getting the heat but if the pitchers are not comfortable with him it’s not good. Posada is a bat the Yankees need in the line-up, this can get ugly, I agree.

  245. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Lets be clear about something. I dont have a problem with Jorge posada. It just seems as thought pitchers have a problem getting into rhythm when they throw to him. I’m no pitching guru, but after listening to yankee postgames for years, almost every pitcher says that when they are throwing well its because they got into a good “rhythm” with the catcher.

  246. Trev June 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    “Johan today 9inn 3 hits 1 bb 0er 10k”

    Wouldn’t be shocked. The team is in a major funk right now. Last thing they need to see is someone like Santana. Then again, they couldn’t even hit Penny and Nieve.

  247. CB June 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    This pitching rotation came into the season projected to be bar far the best rotation in the game. By far. It wasn’t even close. It was also one of the highest paid.

    It’s amazing how their enormous under performance is now everyone else’s fault except for their own.

    The lack of accountability is remarkable.

    It’s funny – AJ Burnett has a reputation as a guy who ruins the careers of pitching coaches.

    We’re starting to see that here now.

    It’s always the same story with him. He’s got so much talent, such a great arm whenever he underperforms (which has been often) it’s always someone else ‘s fault – the catcher, the pitching coach, the manager, etc.

  248. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    So tell me how this works, ………. you have such a bold prediction – do you now root for the Mets so you can be right?

  249. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    CB, I have no issue with your last post. Reasonble people can disagree, I am ok with it. What i did not like is the high handedness you showed in your earlier note. In fact, you tend to do it often when you disagree with others point of view.

    Having said that I do beleive that you do bring a unique persepctive to the discussion here. Some of us may not agree with your points, but that is what blogs are all about.

  250. Josh June 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Carl,

    Your an idiot. You can’t be serious with that prediction? I’m going to say AJ throws 7 innings with 1 run and 8 k’s.

  251. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    “He’s always been on the DL, that’s all I really know right now. He’d better keep his mouth shut and do his job, and not worry about somebody else. If it was somebody big, I might pay attention to it. But somebody like that? It doesn’t bother me.
    ****************

    Didn’t bother you? That is why you sought out Brian and shoved him on the field. Alrighty than.

  252. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    KRod – :lol:

    The guy’s a riot. Here’s a good thing though. When he closed out yesterday’s game he quietly left the mound. Maybe Bruney got into his head.

  253. D-Train June 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    CB,

    Yep. Burnett has been one of the biggest reasons that this rotation is scuffling.

    Atleast Wang is coming off an injury and botched re-hab, he has an excuse.

  254. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Josh June 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Carl,

    Your an idiot. You can’t be serious with that prediction? I’m going to say AJ throws 7 innings with 1 run and 8 k’s.

    It was a Joke

  255. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    “I learned to play the game a different way, that’s all I can say,” Bruney said. “You won’t see me do that, the way he acts. You won’t see that.

    “… The guy is doing his job, he’s had a great career. He set the saves record. It doesn’t matter what I think. I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks that, but again, he doesn’t know who I am, so it doesn’t matter.”

  256. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    “Dave Eiland said today that the park is part of the reason his pitchers are afraid to throw strikes.”

    there isn’t an outside strike available to lefities?

    dave, i hate to tell you they aren’t firing the ball park and they aren’t firing the players( though some may go) so fair or not, you’d better teach your pitchers to use the outside part of the plate with lefty hitters and the inside part of the plate to righties or you’re going to be going , going, gone.

    i can’t wait to hear the latest dave eiland excuse. if he was as good at fixing pitchers as he is at making excuses the yankees’ pitching would be leading the league.

  257. Gary June 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Santana – 6.1 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 8 K

    Burnett – 6 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 4 K

    5-2, Mets

    Don’t like Burnett matched up against the best pitcher in the league.

  258. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Lets go kick Johan’s butt!!

  259. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Dave Eiland has to be the first one gone.

  260. m June 14th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Carl,

    I’m surprised at you. I would expect such childish behavior of fatalistic predictions from an ellipse, but you? ;)

  261. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    m June 14th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Carl,

    I’m surprised at you. I would expect such childish behavior of fatalistic predictions from an ellipse, but you? ;)

    You know how I am :)

  262. Henry June 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    get ready to be shutout by the best pitcher in baseball fellas

  263. RS June 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    It’s amazing but the Red Sox have about 5 different relievers who we could put in our bullpen today and he would automatically become our set-up man.

    Okajima, Delcarmen, Ramirez, Saito, and Bard all have ERA’s under 3.00, and I haven’t looked it up but I’m pretty sure Masterson has very good numbers as a reliever this year (like Aceves). And that’s not including Papelbon, who not only is a great closer, but can pitch more than 1 inning like Rivera used to be able to do.

  264. Jeff NJ - Wang Relief June 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Wait how am I supposed to get upset about K Rod when I defend Joba’s right to pump his fist? I am so confused.

  265. TKinDC June 14th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    “i can’t wait to hear the latest dave eiland excuse. if he was as good at fixing pitchers as he is at making excuses the yankees’ pitching would be leading the league.”

    Amen to that – - – Pete laid out a pretty compelling case against Eiland the other day pointing out that no one on the staff can be said to have overperformed this year.

    He’s probably safe for as long as we’re in 2nd place, but for all the good he did in the minors developing IPK, Joba and Phil it has not seemed to translate to the big club.

  266. Counts June 14th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Fernando Nieve had no problem coming in here and throwing strikes against our vaunted lineup…. but our overpaid millionaires are afraid to?

  267. Papa Smurf June 14th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    K-Rod is a loser you didn’t see Joba get all upset when Huff mocked him.

    LOL @ that video it was typical, K-Rod yelling and having people hold him back.

  268. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Contain David Wright and Carlos Beltran and we got this game

  269. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    “The Yanks just have to man up. They have played like a bunch of sissies since the start of the Sox series. It’s starting to get embarassing to watch.”

    Yeah and Posada was behind the dish for most of it. I’m becoming more and more convinced Posada is a problem. But then that becomes a big problem for the Yankees since Posada isn’t going anywhere.

    Yankees since Posada’s return – 8-6. Posada caught all of the losses but 1. Interesting thing is that in one of them, he pinch hit for Cervelli, went in for two innings, and the Yankees lost the lead and the game.

    Yankees when Posada was down – 14-8.

  270. Rose June 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Bruney vs. K-Rod = a bunch of silliness or as Girardi said “boys will be boys.”

    Bottom line, K-Rod is a top closer. Bruney is??? Maybe a set-up man for Mo.

  271. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    “Don’t like Burnett matched up against the best pitcher in the league.”

    Stranger things happened.
    Santana will have an off day, yanks will win and take the series.

    Back to my positive spin :) :) :)

  272. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Burnett has a 97MPH Throw it over the plate and see if they can hit it

  273. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Let’s see if TBS has the guts to talk about the K-rod incident.

  274. Clark June 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    RS,

    Every reliever in the Boston pen has an ERA under 3. Papelbon, Saito, Bard, Delcarmen, Okijima, Ramirez, Masterson (as a reliever– maybe just a smidge over 3)

    They completely own us in the bullpen. Phil Coke and Aceves wouldn’t even make their bullpen and they are our high leverage relievers.

  275. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Bruney should play this out.

    Send a message to K-Rod via the clubhouse guy.

    “This isn’t over blown save boy. Two weeks. Mano-Mano. Citi-Field. Under the Choo Choo Coleman banner. No weapons.”

  276. CB June 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    “If AJ pitches well today… then he found his personal catcher.”

    The Mets have what amounts to a glorified AAAA line up playing in half the line up spots.

    If AJ pitches well getting to face Cora, Martinez, Schneider, and Murphy along with an aging Sheffield who is only playing so much do to injuries should have something to do with AJ’s success.

    How low can the bar be set for AJ? Getting out this line up is a monumental endeavor?

    That the mets scored so many runs the past two days speaks much more to the how bad Joba and Andy were rather than to their line up. They’ve been having trouble scoring since those injuries.

  277. E-Rod June 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    “Burnett has a 97MPH Throw it over the plate and see if they can hit it”

    He did against Boston… and Ortiz and Nick Green smacked him around the ballpark. Ortiz hit a 2-run bomb on an 0-2 count off a 96 MPH fastball.

  278. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    Joba- only gave up 2 runs, it was the pen that gave up all the runs.

  279. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    jennifer,

    Joba only gave up 2 runs, but he did not pitch well.

  280. Don June 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    jennifer,

    But that AAA lineup made him throw 100 pitches and took 5 walks against him in 4 innings.

    Outside of Beltran and Wright, they are all bench players.

  281. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    And before someone tries to minimize the role of a catcher, perhaps you can explain why AJ’s newphew went 4th in the draft. There are questions about his hitting so we know it wasn’t for his offense. Is it possible that not all catchers are made the same?

    Randy said yesterday that he considered Posada an average defensive catcher. I have read that Posada isn’t very good on framing pitches. If that’s true he’s hurting both himself and his catcher. Then there are the pitch calls.

    Unless there is some miraculous turnaround with Posada catching games and pitchers winning, I will respectfully stay with my position. Posada is hurting the Yankees. If there is some kind of miraculous turnaround, I will throw myself under the bus, the way I have been doing with my mea culpas for thinking the Yankees didn’t need Tex.

    If it weren’t for his offense (which I think the Yankees really need), I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a lot less playing time.

  282. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    the kid Bard is just Nasty the save he had 2 nights ago he threw nothing but 98-100Mph fastball and threw 1 breaking ball that K someone

  283. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Thank you God for Francisco Cervelli.

    GO AJ!!!!!

  284. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    “How low can the bar be set for AJ? Getting out this line up is a monumental endeavor?

    That the mets scored so many runs the past two days speaks much more to the how bad Joba and Andy were rather than to their line up. They’ve been having trouble scoring since those injuries.”

    Assuming this is correct, if AJ pitches well, he did better than Joba and Andy and one less probelm. He can build on it for the next start.

  285. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Bigelow

  286. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    I don’t know, that doesn’t look like a glorified AAAA lineup to me.

  287. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    “Burnett has a 97MPH Throw it over the plate and see if they can hit it”

    burnett is the thinking man pitcher now that he has matured as a pitcher.

    he can stink at low speeds as well as fast.

  288. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Burnett better throw strikes right from the get-go today. There’s few hitters in this lineup who should be able hurt him. If he can’t navigate through Cora, Martinez, Schneider, Murphy, Castillo, etc. with his stuff, then that’s a scary sign.

  289. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    this year is still better than last year remember Sidney Ponson, Ranser in the rotation that was horrible

  290. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Whew – Cervelli really kept the ball in there.

  291. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Nick Swisher: Bi-Polar Rightfielder.

  292. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Nice Catch and took down the mets sign

  293. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Haha Swish. Always an adventure with him in the OF.

    Did Leiter just say AJ threw a changeup?

  294. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Nice catch by by Swisher. Took a bad route to it, but caught it.

  295. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Swish!

  296. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    That was almost out, Burnett pitching scared now!

  297. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    “Wait how am I supposed to get upset about K Rod when I defend Joba’s right to pump his fist? I am so confused.”

    You’re not.

    :)

  298. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Joba’s fist pump isn’t in the same league as K-rods. Give me a break.

  299. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    “That was almost out, Burnett pitching scared now!”

    Seriously, let’s hope not.

  300. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    My predictions are wrong!

  301. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Work Santana’s Pitch count

  302. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Nice start for Burnett. Although this was the way Joba started his outing against the Mets as well.

  303. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    AJ walks off thinking to himself “I like this Cervelli kid.”

    :D

  304. CB June 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    “Assuming this is correct, if AJ pitches well, he did better than Joba and Andy and one less probelm. He can build on it for the next start.”

    BBFan,

    Let’s hope so. They need AJ desperately right now they really do.

    And he can do it. He can go on a role where he’s just unhittable for months. The competition doesn’t matter.

    He did the same thing last year. Was very poor the first half and lights out the second. Two different pitchers.

    But for the team right now they need AJ to be good right now because Wang is lost and Andy possibly hurt.

    They need him to put it together now. He’s arguably the most important guy on the team right now because with Wang so unsteady and Alex still slow from the hip, AJ is the guy who can make the biggest difference by upping his performance.

  305. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Cora almost hits it out and Burnett falls behind Martinez. Looked a bit bat shy there.

  306. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    K-Rod-First he pumps both fist,then he yells and hits his chest,and finally Points to the sky and yells again

    Joba-Pumps 1 fist and walks off

  307. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    jen, I didn’t read Jeff NJ’s first post so I don’t know what he said. I do agree that KRod does the equivalent of a raindance on the mound. I find it mildly annoying but nothing equal to what I think about the entire glaring fish sequence by the fruitcake in Boston.

    While I find that stuff annoying and worth making fun of, I have to admit it doesn’t bother me to distraction. I have never gotten upset with sylin at the plate and just don’t get the big deal.

    But that’s just me.

  308. Maria June 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Jeter shows Santana what he thinks of him hahah lead off single!

  309. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    We cant be no hit

  310. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Nice job Jeter! I still remember last year when he hit a homerun against Santana that was an absolute bomb to LF.

  311. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    That ball Swish caught was not almost out of here. You guys are cheering scared!

    WTG, Jeter!

  312. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    This was on my facebook, shows you how delusional Met fans are.
    :lol:

    is loven K-ROD gett’n in Bruney’s face…who then p–s his pants….

  313. CB June 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    randy,

    i agree with you on eiland’s comment and his public comments in general. they are becoming tiring.

    it sounds like the pressure of the job may be getting to him.

    for him to blame the park is silly. that’s not changing this year unless it really is wind currents from the old park still standing being the cause. even that will change only slowly.

  314. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Work that COunt!

  315. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    k-rod displays and joba fist pumps arent in the same league. k-rod has a choreographed show going on out out the mound. i cant think of another pitcher who comes close.

  316. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    jeter should swipe the bag.

  317. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    “Bruney should play this out.

    Send a message to K-Rod via the clubhouse guy.

    “This isn’t over blown save boy. Two weeks. Mano-Mano. Citi-Field. Under the Choo Choo Coleman banner. No weapons.””

    LMAO!!!!!

    For some reason I haven’t been freaked out about this matchup. Maybe it’s because Santana has been getting hit by the NL. His cloak of invulnerability has disappeared. Then there’s something about the Yankee psyche after they have been humiliated.

    GO YANKEES!!!!!

    :)

    Also, I’m a huge fan of Cervelli behind the dish. Cannot lie.

  318. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Damon’s eyes is still not right

  319. IRISHCARBOMB June 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Boy wouldn’t Johan look good in Pinstripes?

    Worst non trade ever….

  320. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Wow. That 1-0 is going to be a strike for Johan?

  321. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    “They need him to put it together now. He’s arguably the most important guy on the team right now because with Wang so unsteady and Alex still slow from the hip, AJ is the guy who can make the biggest difference by upping his performance.”

    CB, I fully agree with you AJ’s success today is critical.
    Also, I am hoping that Wang will do well against Nationals, a lesser opponent and improves from there. I think Wang has his stuff, he just needs to get his confidence back. That will minimise the impact of Pettitte’s troubles.

  322. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    IRISHCARBOMB June 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Boy wouldn’t Johan look good in Pinstripes?

    Worst non trade ever….

    I guess im the only one who likes CC.

  323. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    If you’re celebrating like that literally all the time like K-rod does, yeah it’s choreographed.
    Joba doesn’t do that fist pump all the time.

  324. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Arod swings at first pitch, nice!

  325. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    What was that? 7 pitches or so?

    Yikes. Let’s go AJ.

  326. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    I cant stand when derek just sits at first. You have to try and make things happen.

  327. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    We need to try and manufacture runs when we get guys on base. Stolen base, hit and run, anything to at least distract the opposing team.

  328. Jimmy June 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    I’m sure NYY will come back today with this hack NYM have on the mound. The legendary Brian Bruney will set up Rivera, if he doesn’t twist his ankle running in from the bullpen.

  329. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    if we had santana we wont have CC

  330. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Carl, I love CC.

    Randy I didn’t read what Eiland said but Pettitte made it clear that he was nervous about pitching a certain way in the new stadium, so you can’t blame Eiland if he is quoting what Pettitte already said to the press. I don’t know if he referred to all of the pitchers.

  331. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Why don’t people realize that if we had Johan we probably wouldn’t have CC and Tex. Geez enough already!

  332. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    KRod doesn’t do it all the time either. He sure didn’t do it yesterday. (That may be the first time he didn’t do it.)

    I consider this a critical inning for AJ.

  333. Jimmy June 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    “If you’re celebrating like that literally all the time like K-rod does, yeah it’s choreographed.”

    Most people feel that the fact that he’s a vastly superior pitcher to either Bruney or Chamberlain is a little more important that whether his celebrations are annoying to opposing fans or not.

  334. Jobamania June 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    watch the game on Wpix 11

    YES is slightly behind, for me at least

  335. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    cb-

    i’m personally aware i’m on edge today because of the current funk the yankees are in, but that comment by eiland just really ticked me off.

    the person in charge has to say this is what we’ve got. how to we make best use of it?

    the pitchers need a leader to set the tone.

  336. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    see nasty

  337. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    AJ throwing nice hooks today!

  338. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    “I’m sure NYY will come back today with this hack NYM have on the mound. The legendary Brian Bruney will set up Rivera, if he doesn’t twist his ankle running in from the bullpen.”

    Uh, I’m pretty sure I read Bruney isn’t being activated until Tuesday. Good try though.

  339. CB June 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    BBFan,

    Wang and AJ are the keys to this team, IMO. Even more than the bull pen I think.

    I don’t think they can win the division without both of them performing as expected (unless hughes has a big year…).

    It’s so close talent wise between them and boston. Boston clearly has the better pen. The two offenses are close though I’d give the nod to boston as it might be less streaky (though worse on the road). The yankees rotation will need to be superior by a good margin.

    They need Wang to be Wang and for AJ to look like he did the second half of last year.

    Wang’s start on Wed can’t be over emphasized. If he doesn’t pitch well then they have the luxury of having hughes.

    But nonetheless that’s a huge blow to the team – to lose an asset like Wang. Even if you can substitute for him you’ve lost a major relative advantage. Can’t just have arguably the best #2 in the AL disappear and not have it hurt.

  340. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Jobamania, YES is always behind for me. It’s because the satellite signal takes several seconds more to come through. (Unfortunately I don’t get WPIX)

  341. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    NASTY Both Wright and Sheff Were fooled

  342. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Posada is crying on the Bench. JK!

  343. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Burnett looks like he has his great curveball today.

  344. Jobamania June 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    trisha, the game is on TBS also, u can try that as long as you’re not blocked out :lol:

  345. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    question??? does AJ look as though he’s in a good “rhythm”

  346. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Looks like AJ is dealing and looks good.
    Hopefully he can keep it for at least seven innings.

  347. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    AJ….where have you been?!?!? we’ve missed you!!!

  348. brent June 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Thank you AJ,10 PITCHES that inning

  349. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    It would be 4-0 Mets if Posada were behind the plate!

    j/k

  350. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Man, Cervelli looks nasty today! Great framing. Strong signals. Nice tag on the Sheff strikeout.

    I know, I know. I don’t want to jinx him. I’m no Michael Kay.

  351. IRISHCARBOMB June 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Carl- I love CC, but he isn’t on the same level as Johan.

    When you can get the best arm in the game you gotta do it.

  352. Jobamania June 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    AJ is not afraid that sheff is slugging over .600 against him in his career

  353. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    In rain dances, I might give the edge to KRod, but I’d pay for tickets to see a Bruney-KRod shoving match!

    :lol:

  354. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Nice block by Cervelli. Otherwise Chef would be at 1B.

  355. Jimmy June 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    “Uh, I’m pretty sure I read Bruney isn’t being activated until Tuesday. Good try though.”

    But how can the Yanks win without the services of future hall of famer BRIAN BRUNEY?

  356. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    “It would be 4-0 Mets if Posada were behind the plate!

    j/k”

    I’m not!

    :D

    “Man, Cervelli looks nasty today! Great framing. Strong signals. Nice tag on the Sheff strikeout”

    Oh yeah. (sigh)

  357. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Cubs canned their hitting coach today…..when do i see Yanks can pitching coach?!?!?!

  358. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    IRISHCARBOMB June 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Carl- I love CC, but he isn’t on the same level as Johan.

    When you can get the best arm in the game you gotta do it.

    Its a long term investment on both sides. We have to wait years to see how these 2 compare. You cant go wrong with either imo.

  359. CB June 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    “the pitchers need a leader to set the tone.”

    CC is going to have to step into this role. He’s of such great stature – it has to be him complementing the quite leadership of Mo. Mo’s just not going to be the vocal guy.

    That’s a lot to ask of CC but I think they’ll need him to move into that role.

    I don’t think the pitching coach can do that. The pitching coach can hurt the team with comments like Eiland’s but I don’t think he’s going to be able to provide leadership on a veteran staff that is anchored by one of the 5 best arms in the league.

    CC’s been great building chemistry and being a teammate. I love the guy. And when he goes out to the mound now he puts the entire staff on his back. But being a good teammate is different than leading and I think he needs to fill that void.

  360. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Wow, Cano takes the close pitches but swings at the ones in the dirt!

  361. Jobamania June 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    hell yeah robbie cano dont you know

  362. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    That’s what frustrates us about you Robi

  363. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Lead-off double…will he score????

  364. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    good AB cano. took about 7 pitches, went the other way. nice.

  365. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    wait a minute…i thought cano cant hit 5th ?

  366. Marc L June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Great start, a leadoff double, cause we always get that run in.

  367. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    “But how can the Yanks win without the services of future hall of famer BRIAN BRUNEY?”

    While he is likely not a future hall of famer I agree about the Yankees needing his services. As we’ve seen, he is the ideal set-up man for Mo.

    Good catch on your part Jimmy.

    ;)

  368. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Now why cant Robi do that when men are on….lol

  369. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    “UPDATE, 11:55 a.m.: Francisco Rodriguez tried to confront Brian Bruney during batting practice today and was held back by Jose Veras. ”

    If K-Rod didn’t know who Bruney was, how was he able to pick him out in order to confront him? More proof that he’s a liar and the loser that I said he was.

  370. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    I love when Cano sprays doubles to all parts of the field. That was how he hit in ’06 when he almost won a batting title.

  371. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    I think bunting is a good idea…don’t know how many opps you’ll get with Santana.

  372. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Who the heck is managing this team? Phil Rizutto?

  373. Devon June 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    I hate him trying to bunt right here.

  374. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    sac fly works too :)

  375. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    “wait a minute…i thought cano cant hit 5th ?”

    Geez, one hit and he should be there? Come on, man. He hit a homerun on Friday, I still thought he shouldn’t be there.

  376. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Nice job, Swish. Now all Matsui has to do is hit his usual groundball to 2B.

  377. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Nice job, Swish. Now all Matsui has to do is hit his usual groundball to 2B.

  378. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Either CC or Santana would be great. Santana’s better, but a little older.

    The difference is one cost cash, the other cost talent + cash.

    I think we’ll see that we made the right decision.

  379. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    The bunt may have been his own idea……just like melkys was in Boston.

  380. CB June 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    “Carl- I love CC, but he isn’t on the same level as Johan.

    When you can get the best arm in the game you gotta do it.”

    The whole trade would have amounted to Santana for CC, Hughes, Melky, and Marquez (who they traded for Swisher).

    This team would be in an awful spot this year without Hughes and Melky.

    They’ve been pivotal to the teams success, especially Hughes. You can call CC and Johan a wash, or give the slight nod to Johan if you want.

    But Wang goes down as he has and there’s no Hughes this team is sunk in a division this competitive.

  381. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Jobamania, I just went to do it and then realized that it’s still satellite!

    :D

    Actually I think I feel better about the YES broadcast so I’m happy I figured out that it’s the same difference!!!

  382. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Stultus – I’m with you. Cano is infuriating. He’ll have to have a torrid June – July just to make up for all his hacking the past 2 weeks.

  383. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    What is the TBS broadcast? Is that a Mets broadcast? It sounded like Buck Martinez.

  384. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Can Melkman get it done?

  385. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Melky better think sac fly…no DP, Matsui can’t run for his life.

  386. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Laura,

    His teammates told him look for the skinny dude with the maltese cross tat.

  387. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Come on Melky….a fly ball please

  388. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Trisha – TBS does a Sunday game of the week.

  389. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Scorpio,
    Yeah, Cano’s lows are too low for too long. Scary.

  390. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    That change is utter nastiness.

  391. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    good ab by melky..not the result…

  392. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    good change. dammit.

  393. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    no way would you run Matsui there, figured a K was coming

  394. Maria June 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    That change-up was filthy.

  395. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    This is why you don’t try to bunt guys over with this team. They are just absolutely terrible at getting in runners from 3rd with less than 2 outs.

    You’d be better off just letting them take 3 cracks at getting him in than giving them 2 chanes, one of which is incredibly pressurized.

  396. Devon June 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Melky slowly coming back to earth.

  397. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Youve got to change your evil ways… Johan
    Before I(rish) stops loving you.
    You’ve go to change… Johan
    And every word that I say, its true.
    Youve got no fast ball, or curve ball
    You’re sinker ain’t down.
    The NL East’s got your number
    They’re running you down
    This cant go on…
    Lord knows you got to change… Johan.

    J/K Irish!!!

  398. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Cervelli!

  399. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Cervelli!!

  400. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Way to go, Cisco.

  401. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    YEA CERVELLI!!! leave it up to the rook!

  402. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Dreamy eyes does it again :)

  403. Devon June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Nice dinker Francisco

  404. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Better lucky than good!

  405. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Angel eyes!

  406. Maria June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Go Cisco!!!

  407. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    CERVILLIS is earning major kudos

  408. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Devon,

    maybe, but that was all Santana.

    Nice job by Cervelli.

  409. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Come on Jete, work him.

  410. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    And this was a guy who was hitting 190 in AA. Can explain someone explain how this is possible…

  411. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    The eyes. The hands. The bat. The calls. The arm.

    WE HAVE A FIVE TOOL PLAYER HERE!!!!

    Please, NYYankees, keep this kid up. PLEASE.

  412. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Do you swing 3-0 on Jeter?

  413. John June 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Santana throwing a lot of pitches.

  414. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Trisha,

    It IS Buck. He’s one of the only tolerable broadcasters on TV anymore. He actually cares about the game itself, and not the teams playing. He wants to see a good game, no matter who’s playing.

  415. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Pitching around to get to the fatigued Damon.

    Damon, grab a red bull!

  416. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    good job Trisha. :-)

    Santana is throwing a long inning. Over 30 pitches so far.

  417. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Man that change is stupid

  418. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Nasty, nasty change.

  419. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    “Angel eyes!”

    sigh!

  420. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    so the yankees show up for Johan…

  421. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Jeter!!

  422. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    the captain!

  423. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Wow, Jetes.

  424. Jimmy June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    “As we’ve seen, he is the ideal set-up man for Mo.”

    If by “ideal” you mean better than what’s out there now, I agree. If you mean good enough that Cashman isn’t going to be desperately trying to acquire someone better for that role, dream on.

  425. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    CAPTAIN!

  426. Maria June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    That’s the way boys! Loving the small ball.

  427. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    WOOT..nice hitting jete…come on johnny break it open!

  428. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    “His teammates told him look for the skinny dude with the maltese cross tat.”

    Not the bald dude with the maltese cross tat?

  429. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Rishi – don’t speak so soon. no jinxing! :)

  430. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Okay, we can’t get hits with runners in scoring position against junkball garbage journeymen…but Santana, one of the five best pitchers in baseball? NO PROBLEM!

  431. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    I love how our hitters are getting to Schneider early and driving up his pitch count to boot!

  432. Devon June 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Jeter two hard hit balls today.

  433. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Yankees are opening a can of whoop ass one Santana. :D

  434. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    trisha, LOL @ the eyes counting as a tool :D

  435. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    I guess the Yankees are awake today. Playing with more energy than yesterday.

  436. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Nice, Jeter. Always the Met killer!

    This is the type of rally you need against a good pitcher like Santana. Tough AB’s, work the count full, string together a few hits.

  437. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    sorry, Scorpio :) just managed to get the Mets fans who came over for breakfast out of the house

  438. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    We need to go for the kill now.

  439. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    i feel a damon k coming….ugh

  440. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    “I get it, Burnett needs to face teams from New York to pitch well. 22 pitches after two innings? That is usually two batters for him.”

    Pete, Cervelli isn’t usually behind the plate when that happens…

    (If you have any sway with Girardi, PLEASE advocate for personal catchers…)

    Problem is that Cervelli likely gets only one day every five or there would be a firestorm the likes of which haven’t been seen since the Bronx was burning.

  441. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    50 pitches for JOHAN!

  442. CB June 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Santana is a great pitcher but he’s such a different pitcher than he was in his heyday with the Twins.

    He’s really not a power guy anymore at all. The slider isn’t nearly what it was before. He’s much more about changing speeds and location. He lives on the edges much more.

    All pitchers have to go through a transition as they get older. Santana had to do that relatively early in his career. He’s done it marvelously.

    But he’s not the same guy. Not close. He’s a very different pitcher.

  443. RS June 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    YEAHH!!!

  444. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Joekuh -

    :D

  445. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Damon!!!

  446. Devon June 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Haha what just happened with Damon.

  447. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    oh well bad baserunning but good hitting…4 runs off santana is great…actually thats just bad umpiring?

  448. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Bad call, he didn’t shove the ball out of the glove.

  449. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    YEssss

  450. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    what a BS call!!!

  451. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    lol at damon trying to take out Cora at second :)

  452. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    NO WAY. He was in a full stride and trying to slow down, that is BS!

  453. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    stupid blind ump!

  454. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    damon channeling his inner al. no homeruns, yet we score 4. nice.

  455. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    BS call from the ump.

  456. m June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    That’s okay, Johnny. You got the desired result.

  457. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    50 pitches in 2 innings. Maybe Sanata should have been a Yankee

  458. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    BS that was no push, he’s in his way anyway

  459. EricNS June 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    First A-Rod in 04 and know Damon – all it takes to knock balls out of gloves is to join the Yanks!! Just kidding!

  460. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    these fat, useless umps really are awful.

  461. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Cora was in the Running Lane wasnt he? doesnt Damon have the right to run him over?

  462. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    The ump is just listening to what Cora said. He didn’t even see it.

  463. Kevin in the 908 June 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Sterling was a mess during that last call….like always he ended up confused.

  464. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Carl, that’s funny and not funny at the same time. ;)

  465. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    “I love how our hitters are getting to Schneider early and driving up his pitch count to boot!”

    Schneider knew he had to step up his catching game today.
    That’s a lot of pressure going up against ace Cervelli.
    He knew, if he just once made eye contact with Cervy, he was a goner.

  466. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    C- yes he does. As Kay say he can punt him into the outfield.

  467. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    c’mon AJ – a quick inning here…

  468. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    We need a 1-2-3 from AJ here.

  469. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    I swear I just breathe better when Cervelli or Molina are catching. Cervelli does a really nice job of framing, no?

  470. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Damon should have clotheslined Cora, he was on the baseline, and the runner has the right to that path.

  471. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    come on aj..you cant walk the lead off guy after getting a 4 run lead

  472. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    and the Phillies take the lead

  473. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    “I swear I just breathe better when Cervelli or Molina are catching. Cervelli does a really nice job of framing, no?”

    trisha, I’m starting to think that Posada killed your cat or something. LOL!

  474. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Looked like a slap job to me.

  475. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Come on AJ stop overthrowing

  476. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Great, walk the leadoff guy.

  477. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    AJ can’t deal with posterity…aargh!

  478. brent June 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Santanna threw 38 pitches that inning,AJ JUST 10.

  479. CB June 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    The game is in AJ’s hands now. 4 run lead with Santana at 50 pitches.

    No excuses now. He needs to stay aggressive and throw strikes.

    Close to half the mets line up is injury replacements. He should go through those guys easily.

    No lapses in concentration or loss of mechanics. He should be able to go 7 minimum today and bring this win in.

    The offense has done it’s job against santana by scoring runs and running up that pitch count.

    Starts here. Don’t let the mets score after your team puts up a lead against santana.

  480. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    strikes aj strikes come on

  481. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Burnett is wild.

  482. C June 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    YOU CANT WALK A .200 HITTER (sorry for caps)

  483. Devon June 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Burnett losing focus again, not a good sign.

  484. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Beautifully framed leadoff walk by Cervelli?

    Eiland coming out to settle Cervelli down?

    :roll:

  485. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    “We need to go for the kill now.”

    And yet a lead-off walk…

  486. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Big change here – this is the first time Cervelli is catching AJ out of the stretch.

  487. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    AJ better not blow this.

  488. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    dude- it’s the bottom of the freaking line up

  489. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    “trisha, I’m starting to think that Posada killed your cat or something. LOL!”

    Laura, I’m not easily traumatized but when it happens it holds! The last Yankee player to traumatize me (other than Alfred E) was David Cone when he started his descent to baseball hell and Torre mindlessly handed him the ball every 5 days, until Saint George Steinbrenner stepped in and shipped his butt to Tampa.

  490. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Cisco punch him :x

  491. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    aj you better get out of this inning

  492. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Bottom of the lineup killing Burnett.

  493. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Dammit- Tex could/should have had it.

  494. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Tex nooo

  495. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    UNBELIEVABLE.

    4 run lead and he walks the leadoff hitter, falls behind the next one, and sets up a huge rally for the Mets.

    They BEAT THEMSELVES, plain and simple. All Burnett had to do was challenge the leadoff guy and not walk him, and what did he do? He threw a bunch that weren’t even CLOSE.

  496. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    that was a good pitch though…way to back up your offense aj geez

  497. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    AJ is a head case. His team gets him runs and then he starts pitching stupid. Unreal.

  498. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    If Tex can’t get to the ball, it’s unlikely any 1B can.

    Leadoff walks kill.

  499. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Yes AJ needs to keep focus. Otherwise he will shoot my theory to hell!

  500. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Please dont throw 80 pitches this inning.

  501. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Murphy is hitting .241. And Cervelli walks him.

    Terrible catching. He should have framed ball 4 better.

    There’s already a conference out on the mound after 4 runs. Cervelli needs to understand how to make AJ comfortable out on the mound. Terrible communication skills.

  502. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Falling behind. The old Burnett is coming back.

  503. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Go ahead give them the game back AJ

  504. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    what is happening – it’s like a switch flips or something – same thing happened with Joba yesterday

  505. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    change-up. CHANGE-UP!

  506. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    please

  507. RS June 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Again Burnett can’t get the 8 and 9 hitters out.

  508. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Cervelli has completely lost the strike zone once again. Behind on counts consistently.

    Cervelli just can’t repeat his mechanics or maintain focus out there.

  509. rmel June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    nice job walk the base loaded up by 4….just fitting

  510. Cowbell204 June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Congrats to whomever had the third inning in today’s game of “which inning will AJ Burnett implode in”,

  511. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Burnett needs to show some variation, they’re just sitting on that fastball.

  512. C June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    What are you doing?

  513. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    this is unbelievable against a minor league team

  514. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    this is unbelievable against a minor league team

  515. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Jeebus, Cervelli, stop thinking about what Posada would do, call your own game!!!!

  516. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    i really cant believe this is happening..please tell me its not happening..please

  517. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    That wacky Cervelli. Let’s put the theories to rest and watch what is happening to A.J. Burnett. He controls his own fate.

  518. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Way to step up, Burnett.

  519. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Whoever said “punch him” has the right f-ing idea. What a nut.

  520. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Welcome back, AJ Who-Can’t-Find-The-Strike-Zone.

  521. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    AJ is a POS.

  522. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    It may be too early to say that AJ was a bad signing, but it’s getting close.

  523. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    BURNETT IS UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE.

    4 run lead, and he walks the leadoff guy and loads the bases with no outs. ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS THROW STRIKES TO WEAK HITTERS, AND HE DIDN’T.

    Burnett needs to stop making excuses and throw STRIKES. He’s being paid the big bucks and he walks the 7 and 9 hitters. COME ON.

  524. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    give him 4 Runs and he’s ready to give it back

  525. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    I’d settle for a 1-2-3-4 triple play here.

  526. IRISHCARBOMB June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    this is a joke

    yanks just can not win with their pitching pick ups.

  527. tishbi June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    I guess we have already experienced flashes of greatness for today….now its back to the regular stuff.

  528. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Ugh.

    Please tell me this isn’t happening. If this is what AJ is about (he needs to get some confidence back here, please) we are in major trouble.

  529. Mrapplejam June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    video of swisher knocking down mets sign

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdkrooQIIcU

  530. Jimmy June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    40 pitches, no outs

  531. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    get
    outs

  532. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    More balls from Burnett.

  533. Vince June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Way to go Burnett..

  534. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    is this another free agent bust?

  535. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    CB,

    Amazing isn’t it? Sometimes, folks have to realize, if you are going to place blame, place it on the right pitcher.

    4 run lead and AJ can’t throw strikes. Will kill you everytime.

    Take him out now and go to the pen before he blows the entire lead.

    At some point, we have to realize, the Yankees have one starting pitcher and that’s it. The rest of the guys can’t throw strikes, can’t give length, and can’t win games.

    From Cora on, if they don’t take him out, they are staying too long with him. We’ve seen this act from him all year.

    He can’t hold leads and he can’t throw strikes. Amazing.

  536. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    This is sad.

  537. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    The ballpark is a poor excuse why they walk guys. AJ has a 4-run lead, and he walks the leadoff guy. What the hell is that all about” If he hits a HR it’s 4-1. Now, that walk leads to a single, and another walk to Castillo.
    For the Posada conspiracy folks. This is not a good inning for you.

  538. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Wow. Implosion in the making.

  539. RS June 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Is it so hard to throw strikes to guys like Murphy, Schneider, and Cora?

    This is ridiculous. Burnett is going to walk in a run here, and then have to face Beltran and Wright in this inning.

  540. mmx June 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Looks more and more Eiland is not a good pitching coach.

  541. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    UNBELIEVABLE.

    All they are doing is STANDING THERE. All he has to do is CHALLENGE THEM. And he can’t even do that.

    He has a 96 mph fastball, WHY IS HE NIBBLING. Burnett has no guts.

  542. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    “It may be too early to say that AJ was a bad signing, but it’s getting close.”

    Tough to disagree with this.

    He’s afraid of the zone. He has to trust his fielders.

  543. Jimmy June 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Nick Green HR, Sox up 2-1

  544. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Throw a strike, even if they beat you don’t let them beat you by walking in runs!

  545. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    unfortunately there is no bullpen to bring in…

  546. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    42 pitches.

  547. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    That was a gift

  548. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Back in the real world, AJ can get out of this with only one or two runs (or none) and we can all live with it. Johan shouldn’t go deep into this game.

  549. AlexCT June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    What an A-hole burnett is. Your team gives you a 4-0 lead against one of the top 3 pitchers in baseball, and you walk the bases loaded with no one out. A-hole.

  550. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Burnett gets a mercy call.

  551. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    BIG, BIG K there.

  552. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    I think we just got a huge gift.

    I like gifts.

  553. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Now we need a DP.

  554. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    two gifts in a row

  555. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    STFU Manuel

  556. RS June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    We might have gotten a little help from the umps in that AB, but I’ll take it.

    We badly need a DP from Martinez here and not have to face Beltran in this inning.

  557. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Um, he didn’t swing. That was a gift.

  558. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    STRIKES, Burnett.

  559. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    strike this bum out

  560. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    What would AJ be doing out there without the steady guiding hand of the back up catcher to move him smoothly through the game.

    Imagine how bad things would be if that Posada were back there.

    It’s amazing the barriers AJ has to overcome. His team only gives him a 4 run lead with Murphy, Schneider and Castillo coming up?

  561. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Gift call, now capitalize!

  562. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    so the key is the catcher to get wide with the target? Burnett’s secret is revealed!!!

  563. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Throwing a breaking ball for a strike right after that is a huge swing in momentum for Burnett. Now if he can stay ahead of these hitters he is poised to hopefully bail himself out.

  564. Mike June 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Wow…Yankees get another call???

    Stop the press.

  565. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Damn it Burnett, throw friggin strikes.

  566. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    one more aj!!!

  567. Every Day Phil Coke June 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    All kidding aside, Burnett pitches with the intelligence of a short-season A ball pitcher, or maybe even a high school pitcher. At this point I have more faith in Brett Tomko than this guy.

  568. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Just like with Joba the other night, Burnett is showing that he can throw strikes when he wants to. So why then, does he not throw strikes early in the count and get ahead?

    He’s stubborn and nibbling.

  569. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    “Nick Green HR, Sox up 2-1″

    I don’t remember Nick Green playing this well when he was with us.

  570. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    2-2 and Burnett shakes off cervelli and strikes out the mighty Cora. That damn catcher keeps getting in the way of letting the pitching genius of AJ come through.

  571. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Another BIG K.

  572. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    YES! one more AJ one more!!

  573. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    come on buddy!!!!

  574. Maria June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Come on AJ!!!!!! AJ of Old doesn’t get out of this jam. This is a chance to prove himself. Come on. 1 more out.

  575. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    48 pitches..

  576. RS June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    HUGE K! Now please don’t give up an xtra base hit to Beltran and erase all that good work.

  577. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Cervelli is thinking outside the catcher’s box. What a great job.

  578. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    What in God’s name was Beltran swinging at?

  579. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    This could be the whole game resting on this at bat. If Burnett can somehow get out of this without allowing anything, it could be a huge momentum swing in the game right after we scored runs off Santana.

    If not, it could be a long game for our bullpen.

  580. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Martinez said that AJ shook off Cervelli in that AB.

    Would he have had the courage to shake off the fiery Posada (we’re pretending that Posada wouldn’t have called for the right pitch in the first place)?

    Cervelli just has those eyes that say “shake me off… you know you want to.”

  581. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    what does a.j stand for?

  582. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    WOW!

  583. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    “I don’t remember Nick Green playing this well when he was with us.”

    I don’t remember Nick Green playing with us.

    Left field at Fenway can revive any righty’s career.

  584. C June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    OH YA!! great calls by The umpire

  585. EricNS June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Don’t worry – Green is a journeyman player – will come back to earth!

  586. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    yea yea boy

  587. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Okay garbage start to the inning, but nice job of recovering.

  588. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    GREAT JOB BY CERVELLI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  589. RS June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Nice job! But next time do it without giving me a heart attack, okay AJ?

  590. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Burnett showing some guts there.

  591. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    WHATTA GIFT that inning.

  592. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Still a bad inning for AJ. Ran up his pitch count and gave Santana a breather.

  593. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    WE HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY GOD…i cant believe it

  594. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Enjoyable!

  595. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    ok, AJ…Dreamy eyes saved your arse that inning.

  596. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Allan James Burnett

  597. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Thank god.

  598. John June 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    What is absolutely amazing to me is that guys like Burnett and Joba, who argueably have the best stuff on the team, spend so much time nibbling at the edges, as if they have fluff and need people to swing at perfect pitches to be successful. Both guys throw hard, have movement, and can throw multiple pitches as a strike. Why do they spend so much time trying to make the perfect pitch? It just baffles me, it really does. Joba and Burnett are by far their own worst enemies. They rarely get hit hard, but they put so many people on, you don’t need to hit them hard to score runs.

  599. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    o
    m
    g

    what a freaking shock

  600. m June 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Wow. Big trouble in the Bronx, but he got out of it. The mets can not pick up the breaking ball.

    Let’s go, now’s the time to put the foot on their throats after they got nothing from that gift inning.

  601. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    AJ FOR KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let me say this. We have gotten screwed by umpire’s horrid calls so many times I lost count about one hundred centuries ago!!!

    So thanks for the gift, ump. And the one with the next batter. AJ should kiss your ring because it gave him his umph back.

    I love karma, even though there’s no such thing!

    HA HA HA!

    :)

  602. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Brilliant job by Cervelli!

  603. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    SJ44, if Posada was catching that inning, Burnett would of got burned and he would of been out of the game by now. There is no way that Burnett gets out of that inning with Posada catching.

  604. Eric June 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Everything to like with Frankie Cervelli and all he’ll do is get better. He’s ahead of his time behind the plate.
    Not a power guy but could develop into a good gap hitter.

  605. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    I think that these guys are nibbling because they have let this notion of YS being a bandbox get into their heads.

  606. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    He got good fortune and luck to get out of that inning.

    A gift call on Cora and a line drive hit right at Jeter.

    The Mets lineup is not exactly Murderers Row and AJ can’t get through it.

    If they are going to keep him in the game, which is a mistake, they better find a way to score at least 4 more runs off Santana because AJ certainly isn’t going to hold this lead. We’ve seen it all year.

    Doesn’t matter who catches him, he can’t repeat his delivery or find the plate on a consistent basis.

  607. Maria June 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Maybe a botched call on that one strikeout but our inning ended due to a poor call in the basepaths. Not that calls are an eye for an eye but it does all seem to even out in the end in most games.

  608. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    martinez made a good point. if you’re struggling with your fastball, throw a curve. makes you have to be on point mechanically. that was a little too high to swing on tex.

  609. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    .240/.296/.387 with 2 HR/4 RBI in 75 AB with us.

  610. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    AJ is very fortunate. That’s a good example of what I was referring to as the mets AAA line up.

    AJ loses the zone yet again against the bottom of an order.

    And who is up next? No hit Alex Cora and then 20 year old Fernando Martinez who had just been in AA.

    No Jose Reyes to face with the bases juiced no outs. NO David Wright hitting second.

    Buy the time Beltran gets up it’s already 2 outs.

  611. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    A mistake to keep AJ in this game? Who are you going to bring in to pitch? The bullpen is shot right now.

  612. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    With Posada catching, pitchers end up in the clubhouse sobbing in a fetal position with their uniform torn off. It’s sad but it must be true – I read it somewhere.

  613. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    see how Johan throws these strike thingies?

  614. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Maybe Cora didn’t swing but like they say, it evens out, matsui was up in the same situation last week…bases loaded and ball 4 the ump said he swung when he CLEARLY didn’t. so it evens out.

  615. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Phils are useless.

  616. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    “Cervelli has completely lost the strike zone once again. Behind on counts consistently.

    Cervelli just can’t repeat his mechanics or maintain focus out there.”

    Um, I’m not thinking this is entirely accurate!

    I repeat, I just breathe better when Cervelli is catching games.

  617. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Well here they are with Santana at a high pitch count, and they are giving him 2 or 3 pitch outs. Burnett just had a long inning, don’t force him right back out there!

    This offense sometimes just has the dumbest approach.

  618. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Sean,

    Keep telling yourself that. You have no idea what you are talking about. The catcher has nothing to do with that inning.

    I guess Cervelli willed the line drive from Beltran into Jeter’s glove or got Wolf to call out Cora on a horrible call.

    Its nice to have opinions. Its better to have a clue.

    You don’t have a clue when it comes to catchers.

  619. rmel June 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    I will say this if Cervelli can turn out to be Yadier Molina lite i would be trill….Montoro might want to find a new positon

  620. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    SJ44, I do have to agree with you. Catching only helps up to a point. Eventually, if a pitcher is not pitching well, he’s going to get hit no matter who is catching him.

  621. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    I just finshed reading the Sunday Morning comic section here at The LoHud..I see that Jorge is stil the featured topic…..It’s humor is wearing off….Love AJ’s arm, but really is frustrating…..I said last night that this in my view is a trun around game…..Beating a premier pitcher like Santana and then getting a fine outing from Burnett will right the ship as the sfter part of the schedule has finally arrived…….Tricia, I really thought you made great strides this season, but honestly you’re a demp that just does not exist….Posada like I mentioned when this all surfaced the other day, is 2 good seasons away from being a candidate for the Hall……

  622. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    rmel June 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    I will say this if Cervelli can turn out to be Yadier Molina lite i would be trill….Montoro might want to find a new positon

    um no

  623. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    CB, just wanted to say, great post at 11:30 (and SJ44 at 11:25) about this whole Posada silliness.

    Everyone who is curious about this non-issue would do well to scroll up and read those posts.

  624. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    “With Posada catching, pitchers end up in the clubhouse sobbing in a fetal position with their uniform torn off. It’s sad but it must be true – I read it somewhere.”

    I had read the same thing. It was in Torre’s book but Tom Verducchi said that Torre convinced him to take it out because he always liked “Georgie”.

    :D

  625. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    BOS is manhandling PHI. We lost 2 out of 3 against them. Make of that what you will.

  626. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    The same J.A. Happ that shut us down is getting crushed by the Red Sox. Figures.

  627. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
    “Nick Green HR, Sox up 2-1”

    I don’t remember Nick Green playing this well when he was with us.

    ————————————————————

    Damned. It looks like Sybil and “her friends” have attacked the board.

  628. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Somebody test Nick Green’s urine and blood. And Ibanez while you’re at it.

  629. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    I heard that one of the Mets players from AAA called up the press and said he didn’t like AJ’s fist pump.

    :lol:

  630. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    jussss a bit outside

  631. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    what the heck was that??

  632. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    And we’re beating Santana who beat the Red Sox. Baseball is funny ain’t it.

  633. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    boston winning 3-1…what are the phils doing??

  634. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    “I guess Cervelli willed the line drive from Beltran into Jeter’s glove or got Wolf to call out Cora on a horrible call.”

    Of course not SJ, don’t be silly. Cervelli had nothing to do with that.

    It was Cervelli’s magic powers that made the umpire give AJ those gift strikes however. If Posada was behind the plate no way the umpire calls ball 4 strike 2. No way. It’s the tremendous respect the umpires have for an unknows AA catcher that got AJ through that inning.

  635. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Cano dove so early on that that he took himself right out of the play. That ball wasn’t hit hard, if he took another step and then dove he could have knocked it down.

  636. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    FWIW, and I do remember Nick Green and always thought he did a credible job for us, I don’t think the pressure is the same when you play for the Red Sox. JMO

  637. brent June 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    J.ose calls a better game than baby brother

  638. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    “Damned. It looks like Sybil and “her friends” have attacked the board.”

    I see that Grumpy Gus has arrived. What’s up, GB? :)

  639. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    All Burnett has to do is get ahead of these hitters and they won’t touch him with his good stuff.

    Yet, he can’t do even that. He has a 4-run lead, who cares if one guy hits a solo hr off you if you don’t set up a big inning?

  640. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Jose calls a beautiful game.

    Here’s a problem I have with AJ, and hopefully this will work itself out, you can’t baby him through every inning. You know for sure that Posada isn’t going to do that. He needs to buck up, trust his stuff, and get the job done.

  641. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Last inning wasn’t enough.

    Cervelli performs magic to get out of that bases loaded jam and what does he do?

    He falls behind 3-1 to the lead off hitter for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

    Cervellis 32. Will he ever learn how to repeat his mechanics from one pitch to the other? Will cervelli ever stop over throwing? Will he learn to throw his change up?

  642. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    John Sterling just said “the Yankees would love it…LOVE it if AJ can go seven.”

    He’s at 61 pitches, John. I’m thinking that’s a pipe dream at this point.

  643. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    “Damned. It looks like Sybil and “her friends” have attacked the board.”

    I see that Grumpy Gus has arrived. What’s up, GB?

    ————————————————————

    Actually, Laura, that wasn’t meant your you. I think Randy must have invaded my computer.

    I was going to respond to your post on Green, but, got kidnapped.

  644. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Cisco punch him ! :x

  645. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    what is wrong with this guy???

  646. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Double play possibility gone.

  647. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    I’d like to welcome the members of the lohud “We hate Cervelli so we will discredit him anyway we can because we are over 70 years old and therefore need to pay homage to Posada at every turn in the road” club. BBFan, you hit it right on the head before.

    Meanwhile, forum honesty isn’t going to hurt anything boys since, you know, Girardi is going to put Posada into games so even if you give Cervelli grudging credit, psst – it won’t get back to Girardi.

    Or don’t.

  648. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    This is frustrating.

  649. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Burnett beating himself, driving up his own pitch count by refusing to challenge the bottom of the order with his 96 mph fastball.

    If Burnett got ahead hitters would chase and help him get quick outs, but he pitches scared to a bunch of weak hitters WITH A FOUR RUN LEAD!

    Burnett needs to stop coming out to the media and making ridiculous comments about how nothing is wrong and watch some video and see how bad his mechanics are.

  650. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Looks to me like AJ’s worried about getting the ball up too much, because EVERYTHING is low. He’s just trying to be too fine, and suffering from it.

  651. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    “I was going to respond to your post on Green, but, got kidnapped.”

    Oh, okay. :)

  652. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Cervelli would have blocked that ball better.

    Oops, I mean… Molina. He blocks a beautiful ball.

  653. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Terrible strike to walk ratio.

  654. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Nick,

    Thanks. BTW who was it that started the Posada Truthers meme? That is a good one.

    Can you lay claim to that one? Or was that wave.

  655. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    AJ has thrown more pitches than Santana.

  656. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Alan James is an enigma. :|

  657. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    smh

  658. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Walk after walk after walk. He just can’t throw strikes.

    Great arm, no command. That’s what creates drinking problems for pitching coaches.

  659. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Why is Burnett afraid to challenge hitters with nobody on and a four run lead? It’s unbelievable how little baseball sense he has. He must care more about his personal stats than the team winning the game, because there is really no excuse to nibble to the bottom of the order with nobody on and a 4 run lead.

  660. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Thank you God!

  661. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    thanks JT

  662. m June 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Nice play by Jeter there.

    Tack on, tack on..

  663. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    LOL at Sheff

  664. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    thank you

  665. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Old man Sheff still has some fire, trying to take out Jete.

  666. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Yeah, Jeter can’t field his position anymore.

  667. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    i hope aj is a cat cause hes gonna need all 9 lives…

  668. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Cervelli called a beautiful DP pitch there. Great job!

  669. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Thank you AJ!

  670. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Terrible scoring. How could they possibly call that a wild pitch when it could not have been the pitcher but had to be the catcher.

    And since statistics are stupid and I should only believe what my eyes tell me I’ll conclude that Cervelli is terrible on balls in the dirt and terrible at blocking pitches.

    Given that it would make no sense at all for a pitcher to throw balls in the dirt up 4-0 – none at all – I’ll conclude this is entirely the catcher’s fault.

  671. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Not sure why Jeter would smile at Sheff. Didn’t Sheff say that Jeter wasn’t “all the way black”? LMAO!

  672. brent June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    3 solid scoreless great AJ!

  673. Eric June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Oh how the mighty have fallen.
    Released by the Padres after terrible numbers in Double-A and Triple-A, Chris Britton has landed with the York Revolution of the Atlantic League.
    He must lead all of organized baseball is frequent flyer miles.

  674. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Two hidden stories on that DP….

    Jeter and Sheffield are no longer the pals they once were. I doubt Shef goes in that hard if they were as tight as they were a few years ago.

    Tex’s stretch. May not seem like much but, that stretch got the DP. The guy is a great first baseman.

    Remember all the arguments we used to have on here last year about first base not being a “need” defensive position? You are seeing now how that theory is all bunk with the play Tex brings to the position every day.

  675. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Riddle: how does a strikeout pitcher not throw strikes?

  676. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    CB your srsly ripping dreamy eyes ?

  677. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    It must be hurting some of you that Burnett is pitching well. I see it all over the board. You want him to fail because Cervelli is catching him.

  678. m June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    The one “gift strike” hit the black according to TBS’s pitch track.

    And we still have problem’s with it?

  679. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Swish should be batting behind Alex until someone gets hot.

  680. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    CB,

    Braggin’ on the nephew again….

    He was just named First Team All-American by Baseball America.

    The last 3 catchers to be named first team All-American have been Wieters, Posey and my nephew. All three went in the Top 6 in the draft and all 3 are from the ACC.

    Best baseball conference in the country.

  681. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    johan is pumping that 88/89 mph heat

  682. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    “Jeter and Sheffield are no longer the pals they once were. I doubt Shef goes in that hard if they were as tight as they were a few years ago.”

    No shock there. You know how Jeter is when people he considers friends talk trash about him. I’m sure he didn’t appreciate that “Jeter is all black” comment Sheff made a few years ago. He also might have been pissed with Sheff’s comments that Torre is a racist.

  683. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Why aren’t Jeter and Sheffield friends anymore?

  684. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Sean Serritella – I seriously hope you are being sarcastic. LMAO.

  685. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Posada lovers hate every scoreless inning AJ is putting up today.

  686. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    SJ (if it’s really you), funny but for years on the NYTimes forum I screamed til I was blue in the face that 1B was an important defensive position and the guys there basically kicked my theory from here to China. I’m sure it was a guy thing there – the guys didn’t think of it, it couldn’t be true.

  687. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    “Jeter is all black” should have been “Jeter isn’t all black”.

  688. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Scorpio
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    Riddle: how does a strikeout pitcher not throw strikes?

    ————————————————————

    Ask Nolan Ryan and Randy johnson in the first half of their careers.

  689. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    CB: it wasn’t me. I think it was rconn23 (sorry if I got the precise handle wrong)

    But it’s a very apt term for the level of ‘reasoning that goes along with that argument.

    Trisha: Nobody hates Cervelli.

    But why take a mean-spirited cheap shot at a commenter?

    :(

  690. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Matsui!!!

  691. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    GODZILLA

  692. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    GODZILLA

  693. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    congrats, again, SJ – lots of great news for you all!!

  694. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    It looks like there are too impersonators today.
    It is better not ot post today.

  695. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    GODZILLA!!!!!!!!

  696. RS June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Haha, we are killing Santana!

  697. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    hahahhahha santana!! c.c better pitcher

  698. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Godzilla strikes again! His detractors run and hide!

  699. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    wow – just keep scoring runs :)

  700. Devon June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Atta boy Matsui! Nice shot to right

  701. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Uh-oh, 6-0.

    Burnett turns into a werewolf now…

  702. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    aj lead-proof yet?…we’ve seen it before :) …90 mph front and centered

  703. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    6th straight start the great Santana has given up a homer.

  704. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    That wasn’t no cheapie HR either.

  705. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Sean,

    You really think AJ is pitching well? I don’t. He’s pitching in good fortune.

    He was given a 4, now 6, run lead and his pitch count is already too high.

    He’s not pitching well at all. He’s just been lucky so far.

    Granted, I’ll take it given the way the pitching has been this week. However, AJ is not pitching well at all today.

    Let’s hope he doesn’t have another 30 pitch inning now that he has a 6 run lead.

  706. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Santana is not a big game pitcher.

  707. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    As John Sterling says, “You can’t predict baseball.”

    That sums it up today. One pitcher, arguably one of the two best in baseball. The other, struggling to get it together. And look at the score.

  708. C June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Yankees got Mo down by a no name pitcher yesterday and today they are killing the best pitcher in the NL

  709. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    LOL, everyone is hitting off Santana!

  710. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    nice hustle melky!!!

  711. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Johan Santana, welcome to the AL East…..SJ44,,,,What type car did Tony buy or is considering buying now that he’s a millionaire ?????

  712. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Santana is not long for this game.

  713. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Hustle double for Melky.

  714. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    love those hustle doubles..

  715. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    WDR w/ a so far solid outing in AA

  716. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    It’s possible that Santana could be mentally out of this game now.

  717. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    And to add to the point, they could do nothing against a Houston castoff. Go figure.

  718. josh June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    if the video of Krod and bruney online yet?

  719. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    I’m going to turn to the Mets broadcast and see if they are on the ledge.

  720. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    or a pumpkin rather…

  721. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Great hustle Cervelli!

  722. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    CERVELLI!!!!!!!!!!!

  723. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Dreamy EYES :lol:

  724. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Cervelli is awesome.

  725. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    i dont see how santana can be so good (minus today) with a fb that barely break 90..i know the change is good but the fb is what it is…

    MURPHY!! LOL GO CISCO

  726. C June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    CISCO!!!!!!

  727. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    For those that are crying about the great Nick Green, you might want to look at the numbers again. He has rwice as many at bats, and other than a little higher average, the numbers are pretty colse. I’m sure Boston appreciates the 9 errors in 45 games, too.

  728. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    “Granted, I’ll take it given the way the pitching has been this week. However, AJ is not pitching well at all today.”

    His first two innings were actually good. His breaking ball was nasty. Once he got those runs, he lost it. The guy is a head case; plain and simple.

  729. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    wow, I love it! Hustle hustle!

  730. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    He has some wheels for a catcher.

  731. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Finally, it seems like weeks since the Yankees have played good baseball.

  732. Frustrated Fan June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Posada would be about 1/3 of the way there

  733. RS June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Cervelli is amazing. Just keep pouring on the runs, Yankees.

  734. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    SJ44, I don’t feel that Burnett is pitching well. I was wrong. He’s winning is what I should of said. I wouldn’t doubt him giving up five runs. The thing is, I feel Cervelli helps him out of tough innings. It can only last so long however.

  735. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    He has ***twice*** as many at bats

  736. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Schneider just didn’t bring his A-game today.

    Or should that be his A-frame?

  737. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Oh oh…the Mets broadcasters deriding Dreamy eyes.

  738. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    “I’m sure Boston appreciates the 9 errors in 45 games, too.”

    GB, it’s probably just perception. It just so happens that every time I check the BOS score, Green did something. I’m sure he’s not doing anything when I’m not checking the score. LOL!

  739. Maria June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    They are hitting Santana like he is an unproven outcast from the Houston Astros. Oh wait…

  740. brent June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Sheff was always jealous of Jeter. He’s jealous of Jeter’s rings ,and looks!

  741. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Scorpio, I doubt that Sean was referring to you, but it is so obvious that “others” here are trying to find every way here but loose to discredit everything Cevelli is doing and any link people make to the AJ-Cervelli success today. That’s not TOO childish. But the parties don’t surprise me in the least.

    Meanwhile, I have given Posada credit whenever he has had a good outing (it doesn’t happen often anymore unfortunately) and nothing would make me happier than to have him catch win after win after win behind the plate.

    It’s so curious to me to see the hurt-feeling reactions you get here when Posada gets criticized.

    Oh well.

  742. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    I really miss Bronx Jeers. Anyone know where he is?

  743. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    “Posada would be about 1/3 of the way there”

    Posada would have hit a homerun…

  744. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    “He was just named First Team All-American by Baseball America.

    The last 3 catchers to be named first team All-American have been Wieters, Posey and my nephew. All three went in the Top 6 in the draft and all 3 are from the ACC.”

    SJ,

    That is just wonderful. Congratulations. First team all america is tremendous – first team all america coming from a cold weather north east program is an enormous accomplishment. Just huge.

    Who was the last BC kid to be first team all america?

    Tony must be giddy. Must be overjoyed.

    I’m very happy for you and the family. His mom must be on cloud 9.

    BTW – who was it that made him a catcher? Did you happen to have something to do with that? Catchers always have good stories about the person who made them put on the tools of ignorance.

  745. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Jeter!

  746. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Seven earned runs for Santana.

  747. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    man i love this…i feel so good right now..so good

  748. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Jeter is the freaking man. Wow i love you

  749. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Wow, Santana must be mailing it in today. You wonder why. ;-)

  750. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    It ia amazing for a catcher how many infield singles Cervelli has.
    It has nothing to do with his game calling :)

  751. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    woooooooooooo!!!

  752. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    WOWEE!!!

    Mets are having one of those awful days that we’ve seen happen to the Yankees at times.

  753. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    AJ not only can not afford giving up runs, he also needs to go deep in the game, to give a break to our overexposed bullpen.

    Well, he can afford to give up a couple. :) But he better lasts 6 or 7 innings.

  754. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    No leave him in.

  755. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    He’s no CC!

  756. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    “This is the most runs Santana has given up since coming to the Mets, his WORST outing as a Met” – Ron Darling (I think)

  757. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Santana is obviously a very good pitcher, but we needed that.

  758. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Well, I had this pegged all wrong. I thought we’d win yesterday and lose today. Didn’t expect such a hitting showcase against Santana. Goes to show that you can never predict baseball on paper. As Jeter always says, you have to play the games to see how they are going to turn out.

  759. C June 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Did Fernando Nieve and Johan Santana Switch customs? Man we hitting Sanatana like he is a Minor LEaguer

  760. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Congrat’s SJ. Its been a really exciting week for your family, hey?

    I’ve seen a few interviews with Tony, seems like he’s got a good head on his shoulders, along with his baseball talents.

  761. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    A-Rod will go deep maybe :) it is 7-0 :)

  762. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    “It’s so curious to me to see the hurt-feeling reactions you get here when Posada gets criticized.”

    Trish are you really surprised? First this is LoHud where people get offended at ANYTHING.

    Second, Posada is old guard and has done a billion things before Cervelli had pimples.

    Third, many believe your judgment is skewed because you like his sexy eyes…

  763. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Bye bye, Santana…and it’s possible to like Cervelli and Posada. Just like you don’t have to pin Jeter against A-Rod – there’s no war here, they play for the same team. Your team.

  764. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Pat M.
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    Johan Santana, welcome to the AL East…..SJ44,,,,What type car did Tony buy or is considering buying now that he’s a millionaire ?????

    ————————————————————

    I’m guessing he’ll pull a Joe Pepitone. A big, red Pontiac Bonneville convertable and a speed boat to pull behind it. Either that or he’ll lay low and drive into his first camp in a 1981 yellow Yogo.

  765. brent June 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    OMG the Yankees got to Great Santanna.Talk about run support,no excuses AJ.

  766. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
    Scorpio
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    Riddle: how does a strikeout pitcher not throw strikes?
    ——————————————————————————————
    Ask Nolan Ryan and Randy johnson in the first half of their careers.

    GB7 –

    I was just trying to be snarky abt AJ but I get your point :)

  767. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    The Yankees are comfortable with pitchers they’ve seen before. The unknown knocks them out of their rhythm.

  768. The right field wall June 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Trisha — Charter member of the Kei Igawa fan club. OH and Kyle Farnsworth hasn’t forgotten your dilligent work at protecting him from such meanies as SJ44, CB, GB, and Nick in SF. Seems like you pick a stance and refuse to move from it no matter how little evidence there is to support it.

    Reminds me of –http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU

  769. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Damon!!!

  770. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Magnus,

    “Posada would have hit a homerun…”

    Not only HRs put scores on the board, hustling infield hit also does. And that is what matters.

    SCORE AND WIN!

  771. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Still no outs. You know what this means? AJ will walk the first 3 guys. LOL!

  772. Joekuh - Still waiting for that "clear-up", Mr. Sutcliffe. June 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    cervelli runs very well for a catcher. didnt see that until now.

  773. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Anyone thing Johan is hurt, I mean yhay didn’t look like him…IDK

  774. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    think we get an angel berroa sighting today?

  775. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Damon!!

  776. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    I’m not impressed with his stuff. I know some think he’s the best pitcher in the majors but I don’t see it.
    His velocity is upper eighties low nineties now unlike when he was with the Twins.
    If I had to chose I would go with Halladay over Santana.

  777. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    “It’s possible that Santana could be mentally out of this game now.”

    It’s possible that the cather is mentally out of this game and that’s the whole problem.

    It’s all Schneider’s fault.

  778. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    The Met disasters continue. :D

  779. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Things are going our way.

  780. Neil June 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Perfect time for A-Rod slam

  781. swingsandmisses June 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Whoa crazy game. I just checked in to see Santana getting whacked. 8O I guess it’s true what they say about baseball, “You never know.”

  782. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Tex!!!

  783. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    LOL, God not wants Mets to win today!

  784. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
    “I’m sure Boston appreciates the 9 errors in 45 games, too.”

    GB, it’s probably just perception. It just so happens that every time I check the BOS score, Green did something. I’m sure he’s not doing anything when I’m not checking the score. LOL!

    ————————————————————

    Well, for God’s sake, girl….STOP CHECKING…

  785. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Pat M,

    Funny you should say that! lol

    I gave him his budget this morning. In contained money for 3 cars. One for him, his mom and his sister. Total amount for the cars are well below what one would think when it comes to choosing cars.

    I also gave him what his monthly allowance will be. A little more than the average college grad would get in his first job but, WELL less than what others would think.

    He looked at it, said, “Great, I like it”.

    We’ve talked a lot the last few days about money. I retired at 36 after selling my firm, got the bug to work again 10 years later, and have been consulting for the last several years.

    He has seen how I handle and manage money and understands that I have one fundamental rule when it comes to money:

    Its better to be at the top of a certain lifestyle than at the bottom of another.

    For a 21 year old kid, he’s going to have a nice car (he wants to wait until Fall to get it), nice clothes to wear, and some money in his pocket.

    The rest will be conservatively managed.

    Its my new “job”, handling his money and his day to day activities. Happy to do it.

  786. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Thank goodness for the Mets.

  787. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Here comes A-Rod with the junk time grand slam!

  788. The right field wall June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Brandon — welcome to Johan Santana 2.0. higher age lower velocity.

  789. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    lol alex almost hit into a triple play!~

  790. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    What the hell was that?

  791. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    almost a triple play!! omg he sucks

  792. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Wow, thank god. Could you imagine if A-Rod kills the rally with a tripl eplay?

    Thank god he hustled…

  793. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    “Magnus,

    “Posada would have hit a homerun…”

    Not only HRs put scores on the board, hustling infield hit also does. And that is what matters.

    SCORE AND WIN!”

    No kidding, I was making a joke. Posada’s not fast and wouldn’t have made that but he has 100% more of a chance to jack that out.

    That’s all.

  794. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    …or that. Bah.

  795. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    only alex would potentially hit into a triple play.

  796. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Damn, I guess ARod doesn’t make history today. He could have made a triple play!

  797. JT June 14th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Santana in 90-93 on good days and 89-91 on bad days @ 30. What is this guy going to be like in 3-4 years?

    Sabathia, Hughes, Swisher, Melky > Santana

  798. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    We crushed Santana. WOOOOoooo!!

  799. CB June 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    “I’m not impressed with his stuff. I know some think he’s the best pitcher in the majors but I don’t see it.”

    Agreed. I think he’s fortunate to have been traded to the NL when he was.

    CC’s stuff is better – by a considerable margin.

    And there’s no comparison between Santana’s stuff and Halladay’s. None.

    At this point Santana’s only true plus pitch is his change. Now that’s one of the greatest single pitches in recent baseball history.

    But it’s still only one pitch.

    I don’t know how well he’d do in the AL East. He’s still be terrific but not nearly what he’s been in the NL.

  800. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    “Well, for God’s sake, girl….STOP CHECKING…”

    Trust me, I’m not looking anymore.

  801. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Trisha, I can only speak for myself, but it doesn’t hurt my feelings one iota to see you or anyone else criticize Posada. Sometimes the criticism is warranted.

    This is a baseball forum and one of the things I like to do here is help knock down bad ideas and poor arguments. More often than not I do it with satire.

    I think Cervelli is great. If you think I hate him or have anything against him, then you’ve completely missed the point.

  802. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    CANO!!!

  803. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Cano SLAMS one.

  804. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    What a difference a day makes.

  805. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Well, this should be a game that AJ can’t blow, right? :lol:

  806. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I LOVE IT…i am a truly happy person

  807. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Makes you wonder if AJ ever comes back on the field.

    He is probably doozing off right now.

  808. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I love hearing your stories, SJ – great to see things working out so well for Tony

  809. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    7 run inning. WOW. But AJ has been sitting for awhile…good or bad?

  810. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    CC is thinking…where were the runs the other night? :)

  811. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Even Burnett can’t blow this one. I think.

  812. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    “It’s possible that the cather is mentally out of this game and that’s the whole problem.

    It’s all Schneider’s fault.”

    CB, I understand that your feelings are hurt but pitchers themselves say they don’t like Posada catching them. I wish we could dump Posada right now when Molina comes back. Let two defensive catchers work our pitchers. We have enough offense.

  813. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    SJ,
    Congrats to you Tony. Your whole family should be proud. I actually caught some of his interview on FSN Pittsburgh the other night during the Pirates game. I caught it on the MLB Game mix on DirecTV. He sounds like he’s a good kid with a good head on his shoulders.

  814. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    The yankees are giving aj enough room to give up 7 runs if he pleases..

  815. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    I still don’t bat him 5th…;)

    Burnett’s arm is now stiff

  816. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Scorpio
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    GreenBeret7
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
    Scorpio
    June 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    Riddle: how does a strikeout pitcher not throw strikes?
    ——————————————————————————————
    Ask Nolan Ryan and Randy johnson in the first half of their careers.

    GB7 –

    I was just trying to be snarky abt AJ but I get your point

    ————————————————————

    I didn’t mean it as a cutting remark, just answering the remark without checking for how it was written. Ironic though, that it was Ryan who fixed Randy Johnson in a game while Johnson was still in Seattle.

  817. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    holy crap – can AJ keep his stuff together

  818. Matt June 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    This whole game is a result of Cervelli’s big hit there with 2 outs and runners on the corners.

    The offense has been scuffling lately and that huge hit to pick up Melky turned around the entire mindset of the team.

    Sometimes that’s all it takes. One big hit to energize a team.

  819. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Swish 2 walks in 1 inning.

  820. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    SJ,
    Congrats to you and Tony. Your whole family should be proud. I actually caught some of his interview on FSN Pittsburgh the other night during the Pirates game. I caught it on the MLB Game mix on DirecTV. He sounds like he’s a good kid with a good head on his shoulders.

  821. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Was Nick walking out to the mound? LOL!

  822. Jay June 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    I bet aj walks at least 2 next inning

  823. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    The never ending inning…i like it.

  824. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    how long has this inning been ?

  825. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    “Third, many believe your judgment is skewed because you like his sexy eyes…”

    :D

    OUTED!!!!!

    Stultus, I like Molina equally and it’s got nothing to do with the eyes.

    :)

  826. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    9 ER for Santana. Or maybe it’s 5 for him and 4 for Schneider.

    long inning wait for AJ.

  827. Glenn June 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    With such a cushion, let’s see if Burnett realizes that all he has to do is pound the strike zone and keep the bullpen as inactive as possible. Being cute with pitches serves him no purpose.

  828. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    santana’s era is a healthy 3.29 now

  829. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Yeah, I’m not expecting AJ to be too sharp when he comes out.

  830. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    That 2-out hit by Cervelli was huge. It gave the Yankees a lead and relaxed the hitters, who were all embarrassed yesterday.

  831. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    too long – time to get AJ back out there or he might just give them all back

  832. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Stokes’ got nothing.

  833. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    “Stultus, I like Molina equally and it’s got nothing to do with the eyes.”

    Is it his barrel-chest?

  834. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Kei Igawas brother is warming up for the Mets.

  835. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Cisco was the difference in this game so far, I say that b/c AJ makes me nervous.

  836. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Melky barely misses a 3-R HR.

  837. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    What’s with the bad baserunning?

  838. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    I was going to ask was he getting someone to manage his money for him SJ, but I thought that would be kind of tacky to ask given that the $$ of the money he signed for is public knowledge. Good to hear it someone with good idea about money who only has his best interests at heart and will look after it for him.

    He’s worked hard and sacrificed a lot for that signing bonus. Its really nice to see that he can reap the rewards of it, and also share it with members of his family too.

  839. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    oh Melky – we just neede the inning over anyways :)

  840. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    lol melky!! who cares…this is great!!! can swisher pitch ahhahah

  841. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Can you imagine if AJ can’t get out of the fifth inning? That would be crazy.

  842. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    If Burnett can’t win this game with a lead like this, then there is nothing to be said. :D

  843. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Mama flippin mia!!!

  844. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    It’s good to see NYY hit a quality pitcher like this. They’ve been on the back end of these a few times this year.

  845. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    At 13-0, I can laugh at that. Melky JUST missed a three-run blow.

  846. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    I know it’s nitpicky with 13-0 on the board but Johnny & Melky should not have been so aggressive and be tagged out like that.

    The Yanks need to go for the jugular and not give easy baserunning blunder outs.

  847. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Melk man!

  848. S June 14th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Laura,

    Melky probably thought it was gone, but decided to try and stretch it at the last minute. 13-0, can’t fault him too much.

  849. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    The Mets probably woke up this morning thinking that they had this game in the bag.

  850. Doreen June 14th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Hey Everyone!

    Just got in from 10 a.m. Mass and brunch with friends.

    So, this is why the don’t play the games on paper!

    :)

  851. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    i say let burnett go 100 pitches can abuse tomko and veras..its the thing to do!

  852. RS June 14th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Melky got thrown out on purpose because he didn’t want AJ to rot on the bench.

  853. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    yikes..13-0

  854. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    “I know it’s nitpicky with 13-0 on the board but Johnny & Melky should not have been so aggressive and be tagged out like that.”

    For AJ’s sake, I don’t mind.

  855. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    CB,

    10 years ago last month, I bought him his first set of catching equipment. It had the knee savers on them.

    I set him up with Bobby Ramos (now the bullpen coach for the Rays) for catching lessons. Bobby, a great, old school guy, saw the knee savers and said, “they are gone next year”! lol Sure enough, they were.

    He worked with him for 3 years until he got back in the game. He then worked for 4 years with Pete Griftol, now the Farm Director of the Mariners.

    He never missed a 7 am catching class, followed by a 10 am hitting class for 6 years. They were great with him and he worked his butt off to reach this point.

    He is the first baseball All-American in BC History. In fact, the SID called him the night of the draft and said, “How does it feel to be the highest drafted BC athlete not named Matt Ryan (he went #3 in last years NFL Draft) in the history of the school”?

    That blew us away.

    On top of it, he was named Scholar Athlete of the Year at BC and has a 3.6 GPA. He’s 21 credits short of graduation and the Pirates will pay for the rest of his education at BC.

    Interesting aside……The Pirates had no problems paying for his education. They however, wanted it to be at Pitt ( I think they must have a deal with the school) and not BC.

    We said “No” and that took some time to work out.

    In the end, they agreed to our terms and will pay for him to finish at BC at a later date.

  856. G June 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Too bad the sox are winning. At least the jays are losing. 3 games up on the wild card if things go the way their supposed to.

  857. SCRANTON June 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Is there any link to the video yet?

  858. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    I’m so glad that all those people who conceded this game yesterday due to it being Santana were wrong. :)

  859. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    900 pitches for Burnett, according to the scoreboard at YS.

  860. Joe Monte June 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    What is the ballclub’s ERA w/ Posada in vs the other Yankees’ catchers? I’m assuming there is a big difference between the two.

  861. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    “Is it his barrel-chest?”

    :lol:

    It’s actually the way he whips the ball out of his glove and lasers it to the bases to throw runners out!

  862. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    “Is it his barrel-chest?”

    :lol:

    It’s actually the way he whips the ball out of his glove and lasers it to the bases to throw runners out!

  863. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    With a 13 run lead and two outs, it’s not a bad time to be taking a chance on getting an extra base hit like a triple.

  864. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Barring unexpected total collapse, we should win this game.
    That is two out of three and we are taking the series. That is what every one expected with Santana pitching in the series. It did not happen the way it was scripted, but it still happened – taking the series.

    Mission accomplished :)

    Now on to Nationals and building on this success…..

  865. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    I still wish it had been Hughes starting. :)

  866. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    ” I wish we could dump Posada right now when Molina comes back. Let two defensive catchers work our pitchers. We have enough offense.”

    sean-

    do everything you can to preserve all your brain neurons.

    you may be running a little low on them.

  867. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Man that was weak between Bruney and K-Rod.

  868. mrblack June 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Wow.

    Just got in and it’s 13 – 0!

    Only one question.

    Who missed the extra point?

  869. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    and AJ settling down – it’s nice to see

  870. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    They finally found a good reason to have Veras on the team. Peacemaker!

  871. C June 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    the most runs we score this year is 13 how about scoring 20 runs

  872. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    SJ, It appears that Tony has a good foundation which will only enhance his success……I wonder how many will see that Cashman did the right thing in not trading Hughes, Melachon and Kennedy for Johan….Plus they still have CC as well…..

  873. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Angel, this was one I definitely got right!

    “trisha – OPPC lifetime member
    June 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    For some reason I haven’t been freaked out about this matchup. Maybe it’s because Santana has been getting hit by the NL. His cloak of invulnerability has disappeared. Then there’s something about the Yankee psyche after they have been humiliated.

    GO YANKEES!!!!!

    Also, I’m a huge fan of Cervelli behind the dish. Cannot lie.”

    :)

  874. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Quick inning from Burnett.

    Cora with a lame hustle effort.

  875. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    “I know it’s nitpicky with 13-0 on the board but Johnny & Melky should not have been so aggressive and be tagged out like that.”

    Johnny wasn’t being aggressive. He was standing on second, and wasn’t sure if the ball was going to be caught, or drop in, so he waited close to the base. He got tagged out when he should have been running to third, and then Tex got double off at second. If Johnny HAD been running, it still would have been a double play, just with a man on third instead of on first, and Cano’s homer still would have counted for two. We lost nothing there.

    Melky, on the other hand…Yeah. No idea why he was running to third. Maybe he thought the ball went over Beltran’s head. I hate the guy, but give him credit for playing that off the wall incredibly well.

  876. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    mrblack A-Rod almost hit into a triple play that inning.

  877. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Philly has 2nd and 3rd one out in the 5th inning with Rollins at bat.

  878. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    “Cora with a lame hustle effort.”

    That’s what the Mets do best!

  879. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Did someone fit Sean with the GetSmart Cone of Silence?

    Better check its not airtight, cause it seems like its depriving him of oxygen or something.

  880. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Wow. Is that how you’re going to play it, Cora.

    Look, I know your team is losing 13-0, but that doesn’t mean you sulk at the plate and whine like a baby. You play hard, and hope your team gets a few breaks. You don’t GET those breaks if you don’t keep playing. That’s absolutely disgusting to me.

  881. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Who knew Jose Veras could be Switzerland?

  882. RS June 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Nothing like scoring 9 runs in an inning and then backing that by a 1-2-3 performance from your starter.

    3-3 for Cervelli!

  883. swingsandmisses June 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Derek Lowe getting hammered in Baltimore today with 7 ER in 2.1 innings. One day respite from “should have signed him instead of AJ.” :D

  884. Rishi June 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    man – just LOVING that Cervie

  885. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Hi Doreen – Hope you enjoyed your brunch (my favorite meal!).

    Maybe this game gets both the pitching and the team back on the right track. Sometimes you need a laugher to relax you. They have way too much talent for what happened this past week.

    Athletic performance can be such a fragile thing.

  886. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    CERVELLI!!!!!

    Catches, hits, frames pitches, calls games, and has GORGEOUS eyes.

    :lol:

  887. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    loving cisco…

  888. Doreen June 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Great inning for AJ after the long inning by the Yanks.

    Wow, Cervelli continues to impress. I’m trying to catch up on all the happenings by reading backwards here.

    Hope the KRod/Bruney brouhaha has run its course.

  889. CB June 14th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    “10 years ago last month, I bought him his first set of catching equipment. It had the knee savers on them.”

    That’s what I was guessing. I figured it would be you who steered him in that direction given the opportunities it could open up in the future.

    You should be proud. Few big league catchers every just take up the position on their own. It’s usually a function of someone else’s forthought and vision (best example is the Molina’s dad I guess).

    And vision and of course Tony’s skill and hard work have paid off.

    What’s so great about the situation now is his probability of playing in the show. I’m sure you’ve thought about that and are trying not to get ahead of yourself so I’ll do it for you!

    What are the questions that pop up with catchers when they’re drafte? First – will he stick at the position? Check with Tony. Second – can he handle a staff? Check. Third – can he field the position – Check. Fourth – can he hit enough to stick.

    He’s got so many of the prime variables answered already. It’s very promising because his floor is so high for that position.

    “He is the first baseball All-American in BC History. In fact, the SID called him the night of the draft and said, “How does it feel to be the highest drafted BC athlete not named Matt Ryan (he went #3 in last years NFL Draft) in the history of the school”?”

    I was figuring he might be the first BC first team all america because playing in the north east is tough. But the matt ryan thing is remarkable.

    He must be ecstatics. Good that you’re managing the money!

  890. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Yankees pouring it on.

  891. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    LOL Coney

  892. Hughes to Joba to Rivera June 14th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    how young is cervelli???

  893. RS June 14th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    4-4 for Jeter! No hits for Arod (or Tex) yet. Think we might see Berroa at 3B today? :)

  894. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Cervelli Jeter oh my

  895. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Heh, you sure did, Trisha.

  896. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    “Who knew Jose Veras could be Switzerland?”

    Hopefully, President Obama sends him to North Korea or the Middle East. If anyone knows what a bomb looks like it’s Veras. He’s thrown enough of them.
    4-3 Boston in the 5th in Philly. Phillies have a man on 1st 2 outs and Utley up with Howard on deck.

  897. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    can someone please explain to me why cervilli is hitting the ball so well in the majors?? this is a guy who hit 190 in aa.

  898. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Pat M,

    Funny story…..

    Day after the draft, I get a call from his mother.

    She tells me there are 5 big boxes in front of the house and they are all filled with various types of Pirate merchandise in all different sizes.

    She said, “Can you call the Pirates”? They may have made a mistake and sent the wrong boxes. There is too much stuff”! lol

    So, I call the GM and tell him what she said. We are cracking up on the phone!

    He calls her and assures her it wasn’t a mistake and she is welcome to give out as much of it as she wants! lol

    The great thing about Tony’s mom is, she is refreshingly naive about this entire process. It makes it all the more enjoyable when you aren’t faced with unrealistic expectations from a parent.

    Its really been an amazing week for our family.

    He will be in Charleston WVA to make his pro debut Friday night for his new team, the West Virginia Power.

  899. RS June 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I made a mistake earlier. Tex does have a hit today. Arod doesn’t.

  900. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Go PHILLIES!!

  901. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    “how young is cervelli???”

    23

  902. Voodoo Child June 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Cisco up to .309.

  903. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    5-4 Phillies Howard with a 2 run double off of Beckett

  904. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    You think they’ve noticed 13-0 yet on the scoreboard in Philly? :)

  905. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    3 hits for Super Cervy.

    I was thinking they might pull him and save his superior catching techniques – (and let Posada do the mop up duty) – but tomorrow is an off day. He’ll be rested for Tuesday.

  906. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    I’m still stirring about the reaction to Friday nite’s win, YES interviewing ARod after the win, I swear I need to apply for Kim Jones’ job, and I wouldn’t ask the dumbest most obvious questions in the world.

  907. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Philly must have seen the score on this game. They are making a push.

  908. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    “can someone please explain to me why cervilli is hitting the ball so well in the majors?? this is a guy who hit 190 in aa.”

    he was hitting .300 the yr. before in AA, Long shortened his swing and made him get use to hitting w/ his lower half, he’s hit the ball hard more consistantly since that.

  909. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Good to see Beckett being knocked around.

  910. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    yeah Phillies!! beat those damn Sox and then when you do, let’s have a conference call so you can tell us how you do it! lol

  911. i-know-nothing June 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Let’s put Veras in now and lose this game!

  912. G June 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    What a “surprise”. Cervelli is catching and the Yankees are winning. Cervelli has proved my point from early on. Hes a better defensive catcher than Posada and calls a better game. Thats all the Yankees need.

  913. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    “You think they’ve noticed 13-0 yet on the scoreboard in Philly?”

    One of my good friends is at the game. Let’s just say from the last text I got from him, they’re drinking to the Yankees success (or Mets failure to be correct), and now the Phillies rally.

  914. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    SJ44
    June 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
    Pat M,

    Funny story…..

    Day after the draft, I get a call from his mother.

    She tells me there are 5 big boxes in front of the house and they are all filled with various types of Pirate merchandise in all different sizes.

    She said, “Can you call the Pirates”? They may have made a mistake and sent the wrong boxes. There is too much stuff”! lol

    So, I call the GM and tell him what she said. We are cracking up on the phone!

    He calls her and assures her it wasn’t a mistake and she is welcome to give out as much of it as she wants! lol

    The great thing about Tony’s mom is, she is refreshingly naive about this entire process. It makes it all the more enjoyable when you aren’t faced with unrealistic expectations from a parent.

    Its really been an amazing week for our family.

    He will be in Charleston WVA to make his pro debut Friday night for his new team, the West Virginia Power.

    ————————————————————

    Not bad…starting out in the Sally League. Don’t be giving away any pitching reports on the Charleston kids.

    Congrats to your nephew, your family and you, SJ. Hope he moves up fast.

  915. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    SJ, I’m certain that she was all about the sheepskin and that baseball was the vehicle to get it……Now of course the family’s lives have been altered forever……I did read that piece on Ross and his comments to Tony, great stuff…I think he’ll be playing at PNC in 2 years….

  916. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    The Yankees better not make the same mistake with Cervelli as Dioner Navarro.

    You have a potential catcher of the future, better hang onto him with Posada getting old.

  917. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Wow, I take the dog for a long walk and come home and we’re up 13-0 v. Santana. I must be a bad luck charm.

    Matt, couldn’t agree more with your comment. It’s so important to jump ahead, and to do it with a clutch 2-out hit really seems to lift the pressure. Cervelli has been amazing. And AJ!

  918. Glenn June 14th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    SJ :

    No doubt Tony will be a spring training invitee in Bradenton and the Pirates usually go to Steinbrenner Field twice each spring so Tony could be behind the plate there as he moves his way possibly to AA Altoona then on to Indy.

  919. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Al, go get some of the Hudson, EL Nino nice seeing ya at third

  920. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    wonder who else will be “lifted” for rest of the game?

  921. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Was it the serene confidence that catcher Cervelli brings that allowed the Yankee offense to relax and pounce on Johan Santana?

  922. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    AJ throw the damn change up

  923. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Beckett homers, yes, Josh Beckett homers off of Happ. Phillies and Boston tied at 5

  924. C June 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    josh beckett hit a HR

  925. RS June 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Josh Beckett hits a homerun to tie the game!

  926. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    I hate Josh Beckett.

  927. mrblack June 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Wow Beckett hit a bomb in Philly.

    New D.H.? LOL

  928. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Nick, I will break my “ignore you” code to post this but if you really want peace you won’t feel the need to belittle the post or try to make humor of it at my expense.

    People here have the right to feel Posada is hurting the team, the same way other people have the right to feel that Posada is nothing but good for the team. When people like CB come on with his overbearing “excuse me but I said it didn’t I. What are you peons stupid?” attitude and then continues with a childish parody because someone has the nerve to dismiss what he says, it certainly doesn’t help. It also doesn’t help for you to refer to it as “the Posada silliness.” Though you may not mean it to be so, that appears both condescending and dismissive.

    That you, Pat M, SJ and others really believe in Posada is fine. Randy also, though Randy did term him an average defensive catcher. I’ll be honest and tell you that if Posada weren’t as much an offensive force as he is, I’d feel pretty good about seeing less and less of him.

    I believe there is a huge problem with Posada and I think Posada’s strong personality may have a lot to do with it. That’s just my opinion. For those of us who feel there is a problem with Posada, we feel it is a big problem and it hurting the Yankees. That’s the way we feel. This blog is for opinions.

    I have never called the other side of any issue “silliness”. I will always say that I respect the opinion of the other side and that I just don’t agree with it. I don’t see why there has to be a firestorm of condescension and nastiness headed in the direction of those who don’t believe in Posada. And if we feel the need to mention it one hundred times a day, so be it. The worse we feel it gets, the more we mention it.

    I also don’t need posters like Pat M telling me that I am now a drem that doesn’t exist because Posada is going into the Hall of Fame. I have the right to feel what I do about Posada or anyone else.

    I have already said that if things turn around and Posada is calling game after game where we are winning, I am going to be the first to do a mea culpa. Until then I have serious questions about him, and I know I am entitled to have them. I don’t need the security of others feeling the same way in order to voice my opinion on something.

    Thanks.

    And yes I did take a shot but I hadn’t seen your “silliness” post at the time so I can say you weren’t included in what I said.

  929. C June 14th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    see boston could hit J.A Happ

  930. RS June 14th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Is this the same Happ that shut us down??

  931. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Jerry Manuel gets himself thrown out. Nice.

  932. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 14th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Manuel had to get tossed there. Do SOMETHING to show he gives a damn. Maybe fire his team up and get a run or two.

  933. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    does anyone think this is just a slow start for A-Rod, or is this the real A-Rod without juice that we’ve now signed and own a ridiculous contract for mediocrity?

  934. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    CB,

    I learned a lot about what teams look for with catchers during this entire process.

    Obviously, throwing is big. Tony is 1.7-1.8 to second base with his throws. That’s better than Wieters or Posey were during their draft years.

    Interesting story, the Pirates Director of Scouting told me the other night…..

    He’s really good friends with a coach on the University of Texas coaching staff. The coach told him they had the watch on him during the entire 25 inning game and he was 1.8 to second from the 8th inning through the 25th inning.

    He said he never saw anything like it.

    Scouts also look for movement behind the plate. Are you quick enough to move and block balls? Are pitchers willing to throw breaking balls in the dirt to you with a runner on third? If so, that’s a sign of confidence.

    Framing pitches and how he interacts and works with pitchers is huge. The Pirates went as far back as talking to pitchers who threw to him in high school and the Cape last summer during their evaluation of him.

    Calling games? College catchers have their games called from the bench. They have veto power but, that’s rare.

    That’s a part of his game that he will work on in the minors.

    As far as his offense, he set a school record for runs scored in a season at BC this year. He is in the Top 5 all-time in HR’s, RBI, slugging, runs, and hits at BC.

    His bat has gotten better every year. The Pirates want to see him hit for awhile before making some adjustments. They feel very confident the adjustments they will make to him will increase his offensive production.

  935. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    This is the J.A. Happ that shut down the Yankees. And Beckett homers off him. Ridiculous.

  936. Voodoo Child June 14th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    way, way, WAY off-topic:

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a.....ster1.html

    brilliant!

  937. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    4 IP, 4 K’s for Betances

    De La Rosa turned into AJ Pienett in the 5th :(

  938. brent June 14th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Aj is in a zone,different pitcher way different game out come,nuf said?

  939. C June 14th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Chan Ho Park in YIKES!

  940. Eric June 14th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Ah Pete I see your quick to turn from your AJ bashing ways

  941. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Pedroia, Drew, Varitek & Ortiz not in the Sox line up today and they are still giving the Phillies a good run. I think that says more than Beckett’s HR.

    Phillies better rally!!

  942. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Cano woooo!

  943. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Manuel had to get thrown out, who cares if he’s not in the dugout, doubt anyone does at this point!

  944. RS June 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Cano having some fun today.

  945. vb03 June 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Cano is killing the ball.

  946. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    For all of those people wondering how Happ shut down the Yankees and is getting hit hard by Boston, remember this…Padilla shut down Boston in Fenway, the Yankees hit him hard. Santana beat Boston in Fenway, and today, the Yankees owned him. So, these things happen.

  947. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    sj44-

    bobby ramos was for a short time with the SPBA team i was with. i remember him as a very hard working and no nonsense guy who’s catching skills were so good i watched him to pick up what i could. it sounds like he was the perfect catching instructor for tony . i’ll bet it meant a lot to ramos too to see tony drafted #4 in the country.

  948. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    The risk of starting Cervellis instead of Posada,

    He is a rookie, he is destined to have a slump, both behind the plate AND at the plate. Overexposing him might not pull him out of the funk, and could risk having an excellent trading chip.

    Joe Mauer will become Yankees’ starting catcher when he becomes a FA.

  949. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Santana sitting…

    A pie maker pitches still…

    Sun peeking through clouds…

  950. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    ok, fine – I’m being ignored and I don’t know why

  951. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Does he finish his last year of college next year SJ? Or does he go straight into the Pirates system and finishes it later?
    What are the plans for him next year?

  952. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Thanks a lot GB. Perhaps you will be able to see him play sometime this summer. Let me know if you will be at a game.

    I’ve declared a family and friend boycott for the month of July. I don’t want anyone, myself included visiting him and distracting him as he adjusts to pro ball.

    Once we go into August, I will let family visit. I want him to be “all baseball” for the next few months.

    CB,

    As far as his movement plans, we negotiated hard for him to start in the SAL. We felt that if he played well there, he starts next year at Lynchburg in High A ball.

    Its an aggressive plan but, one worth taking IMO.

    Perhaps he can finish next year in AA or starting 2011 in AA. If he does, that’s going to get him on the fast path to the majors.

    I’ve had numerous baseball people tell me that he can play in the majors right now defensively. How he hits will determine how fast moves through the system because the Pirates believe he’s already one of their Top 6-8 prospects.

    When you hear the baseball people say that, you can’t help but get excited.

    We are though still trying to take it day by day, hard as it is!

  953. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    I guess Beckett decided he’d better get that run back himself.

  954. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    “and AJ settling down – it’s nice to see”

    13-0 will do that to you. The real test was the bases-loaded, no-outs situation after the Yanks scored 4. Good job, AJ.

    What?? Beckett hit a homer to tie it? COME ON!!

  955. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Trisha,

    Excellent post at 3:18.

    The blog is for people to express thier opinion and be respectful to other bloggers who disagree.

    Shame on those who try to put down others who disagree to support their view only.

  956. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Mike Fransesca is gonna be fun tomorrow.

  957. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    Yes, the haiku is back

  958. Doreen June 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    SJ44 -

    Just caught up on all your “Nephew News.” It is wonderful to hear about a young man who has worked hard and done all the right things and has his dream come true, and keeps his wits about him. Your sister, I am sure, is bursting with pride, as we know you are, not just because he’ll have a good chance to play in the major leagues some day, but because of the way he’s apparently done this.

    Again, more congratulations to your nephew, your sister, and you.

    Joe from LI -

    Brunch is great!

    And hopefully, when the day is done, the Yanks will have taken the series from the Mets, and everyone can stop overreacting. :)

  959. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    why are we even talking about Wildcard, etc in the middle of June? sounds so ridiculous!

  960. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Ridin the Wave – Perhaps you’re asking a question that no one wants to dignify with an answer? Or one thats been asked a thousand times before by snarky trolls?

  961. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    If your Mets fan go outside after this.

  962. Stultus Magnus June 14th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    “why are we even talking about Wildcard, etc in the middle of June? sounds so ridiculous!”

    Agree there, I don’t look at WC standings until the last month of the season.

  963. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Doreen, OT but I go to 10:00 mass too. :)

  964. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Tricia, Time out….Of course your opinion is valid , however I just think taht you’re evaluation of the catchers are one sided….Jorge is an average maybe slightly better than average a few years ago….However to judge him by era’s is not a worthy arguement…..Posada’s value to the club is undeniable, look at 08 as a reference…..I do believe that you’ve become more of a student of that game this season, and your devotion to the Yankees has never been an issue…..I just think that several here are trying to convey to you that maybe that your processing of the catchers value just maybe a little off center……

  965. BBFan June 14th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    “why are we even talking about Wildcard, etc in the middle of June? sounds so ridiculous!”

    You are absolutely right.
    I still beleive that we will win the division.

    I think when the positive people here refer to WC, they are telling the ledge jumpers that we are already in the play for the WC inspite of all the issues to date.

  966. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    The Mets are playing like real men now that their manager has been tossed. Zero Yankee runs that inning.

    Real men don’t need any stinkin’ Manuals.

  967. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    SJ –

    my son, albeit excelled in lacrosse, was offered college scholarships by many D-1 teams, ultimately going to UMD, and then playing for a pro Lax team, it’s all totally different than baseball, but still as a parent, was very proud and rewarding. If lacrosse was as popular a sport, I’d be in same situation now as your sister. Congrats to you and your sister, it truly is a testament to parenting and the people around him to get him where he is, I know all too well:)

  968. Doreen June 14th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Taking out Teixeira already cost them a base runner. I think it’s one inning premature to have taken so many players out. However, I realize Teixeira has been playing every inning of every game, so he deserves the rest.

  969. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    BBFan,

    right, and let’s not forget when we were 14 games back and came back! so it doesn’t matter if we’re on top (almost!) now, anything can happen, too many games left to play.

  970. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Randy,

    It did. He texted me during the draft and was really happy for Tony. As was Pete Griftol, who did the same.

    We got a ton of texts from scouts after the pick.

    Tony is a kid scouts really liked because he got better every year, worked hard, and is a good kid.

    Angel,

    No, he won’t be going back to BC for awhile.

    Catchers have a very different timetable than position players in the off-season.

    Very often, they have to go to the instructional league in Mid-September and work with the arms at the complex.

    I think Tony is going to be in Brandenton for a lot of the off-season working with the younger arms and the roving catching and hitting instructors.

    They told me the other night they believe he has the chance to be fast tracked. I think they are going to give him as much as he can handle and see how it goes.

    I’m going to check with BC this summer to see if there are internet courses he can take or papers to submit down the road to advance toward his degree.

    Its just nice to know he has his education option set and he really wants his degree from BC. He’s very loyal to the school and appreciative of everything they have done for him on the field and in the classroom.

  971. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    104 pitches

  972. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    for the love of god AJ I hope it clicks w/ you b/c this isn’t pretty.

  973. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    the idiot, but cute, Chip on TBS just said, “It’s been all New York today” too funny, duh, but which NY idiot!

  974. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    SJ, If we’re both still posting here at The LoHud in September 2011, Tony we be a topic as he’ll be playing at PNC Park…..Mark your calendar…..

  975. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Pat M – when I see a pitcher have a great game with one catcher behind the bag and then see the same pitcher continue to languish with Posada, it gives me pause. The more I see it happen with pitcher after pitcher, the more pause it gives me. And Posada’s reputation for being hard-headed and having pitchers ask not to have him as a catcher doesn’t help. No it hasn’t been every pitcher in the system, but it has happened.

    I will continue to say that if the results are there I will be happy, no, ELATED, to change my position. Heck I don’t care what the reason is, all I want is for the Yankees to win. I’m much happier to go through life without those kinds of questions nagging at me, believe me.

  976. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    tie game in Philly, 5-5, going to bottom of 7th

  977. m1kew June 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    where is berroa when we need him?

  978. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    wow pena!

  979. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Man was that pretty!

  980. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    OhEL NINO was that pretty :)

  981. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    pena cano!!!

  982. Doreen June 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Jeter probably doesn’t make that play. Excellent, Pena!

  983. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    nice dp

  984. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    That Pena is smooth as silk. Good job by Robbie to catch it barehanded.

  985. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    One more inning AJ.

  986. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    Marlins are sticking it to TOR.

  987. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Beckett is back on the mound, Rollins, Utley, Victorino are up

  988. 2009 Yankees June 14th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Buehrle just hit a HR in Milwaukee. Good day for pitchers to hit I guess

  989. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Well we didn’t REALLY need AJ to give innings that bad because Hughes could have come in, since we have tomorrow as an off day. But we REALLY needed AJ to give us innings to prove to us that he can give us innings, dammit!

    And he has.

    And for once, for once, a pitcher has helped out my fantasy team! Yes a very minor aside – unless you’re me!

    :D

  990. The right field wall June 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Posada is more valuable to the Yankees even if his defense is below average
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU

    Cervelli is working on an extremely small sample size and isn’t going to be a career .300 hitter.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU

    Kyle Farnsworth and Kei Igawa suck.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znowCx_y7nU

    OH btw Correlation is never ever the same as Causation; Posada v. Cervelli solved.

  991. brent June 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    AJ is smokin hot *Pssst*.

  992. C June 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Rollins with a HR!

  993. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    HR Jimmy Rollins. 6-5 Philly in the 7th.

  994. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    :D

    And I got to see it!

    Thank you Jimmy Rollins!!!

    WOO HOO!!!

  995. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Trisha – a catcher, any catcher, isn’t going to get along with every pitcher. Personalities come into play, etc. I understand what you’re saying, but remember Posada has been praised by and been very successful with a lot of great pitchers too. We’ve won world series’ with the guy back there.

    Ridin’ This Wave — remember it’s only Alex’s 35th game, plus the hip is not going to be 100 percent this year. Hopefully he’ll pick it up soon. We need him to.

  996. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Pena and Cano…

    Juggling cowhide, inning ends…

    A soprano sings…

  997. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Tricia, my experiences with catchers were that for the most part that they were indeed grumpy hardheaded sorts…Just look at Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup )….I also always felt that GB was a catcher somewhere in his past….He certainly has the diposition of a catcher….

  998. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    one thing i do not like about cerveli’s catching is how he rides the mitt all the way down to the dirt without flipping. that’s creates laziness in getting the body down to block pitches.
    he’s going to miss some balls in the dirt doing that so much.

  999. Doreen June 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Trisha -

    OT response: We usually go to 12 o’clock mass, because I like to linger over coffee and the paper. But we the priest saying mass today is a friend of ours (married us), so we went to the 10. But, you know the 12 is over so late, I’m thinking of changing my Sunday morning routine.

  1000. Nick June 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Rollins homer baby!

  1001. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    I hope that Pena play is a web gem but if the Sox lose, ESPN will feel they to punish the Yankees.

    :)

  1002. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    That makes sense. I wondered how he’d be able to balance college and being in the minor league system. I couldn’t see how it could be done.

    Clearly Tony has been given an opportunity that he’s worked very hard to get, and he owes to to himself to take every opportunity to realize his dream. Putting that aside for a year to finish a college degree, he can always go back and finish is a small trade-off, I’d think. Always good to have options open.

    Interesting how when he really decided to put in the hard work, discipline and sacrifice make his MLB dream happen, it carried over to all aspects of his life – academically as well as athletically. I’ve noticed that about certain types of athletes.

  1003. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Wheres all my “We should have signed Lowe” fans at? See what he did in the AL East today?

  1004. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    You can never take the snr. citixen out, he’s been hit by pitches since 1818.

  1005. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Doreen – There’s always Saturday 5PM – I’ve done it for years, and I kind of like coming back and either going out to dinner, or having a glass of wine while working in the kitchen/grilling. Of course, I no longer have small kids to tend to, so that may make a difference.

  1006. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Phillies ahead now 6-5!

  1007. YankeeJosh June 14th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    “Well we didn’t REALLY need AJ to give innings that bad because Hughes could have come in, since we have tomorrow as an off day. But we REALLY needed AJ to give us innings to prove to us that he can give us innings, dammit!”

    Trisha,

    I disagree. Sure Hughes could have pitched four innings today, but then he’d be lose for Wednesday. He really needs to be available to caddy for Wang on Wednesday given his struggles.

  1008. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Berroa gets hit with a pitch and laughs it off. He was thinking if Walter Johnson or Cy Young couldn’t hurt him, this clown on the Mets won’t either.

  1009. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Doreen, I used to both mass and church hop but out of loyalty to my home parish, which has been losing members due to demographics, I decided to just stick there. They pared the English-speaking masses down to two times, Saturday at 4 and Sunday at 10. I find the Sunday mass to be good for me. It also always gets me home in time for the pregame!

    :)

  1010. Doreen June 14th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Joe From LI -

    We do Saturday at 5 in the summer a lot.

  1011. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Dynasty, great ‘ku
    But please explain to the board
    Why the ellipses?

  1012. SJ44 June 14th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Angel,

    He’s a very focused kid. When we were coming back from Pittsburgh yesterday, he said, “I have to go to the cage and hit when we get home”.

    His ex-GF, they are still very close, surprises him, and picks him up at the AP. She is studying Pre-Med at UF and has been in Gainesville. They haven’t seen each other in months.

    He’s naturally happy to see her and it would have been very easy for him to say, “I’ll hit tomorrow (Sunday)”.

    He came home, told everybody he has to go to the cage, and hit for 2 hours before coming home to his surprise party.

    He realizes the hard work is really just beginning.

    That’s why I beileve that if he stays healthy, the sky is the limit for the kid.

  1013. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Berroa gets hit with a pitch and laughs it off. He was thinking if Walter Johnson or Cy Young couldn’t hurt him, this clown on the Mets won’t either.

    lmao

  1014. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    “Berroa gets hit with a pitch and laughs it off. He was thinking if Walter Johnson or Cy Young couldn’t hurt him, this clown on the Mets won’t either.”

    :lol:

  1015. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    hmm make it a 14 or something! 13 isn’t a good number to begin the road trip.

  1016. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Phillies still threatening, no outs, one on 2nd and big boy Howard is at the plate

  1017. C June 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    LOL???

  1018. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    “UPDATE, 3:49 p.m.: Angel Berroa just got hit in the hip by a pitch. He didn’t mind, he had that hip replaced years ago. ”

    :lol: I knew you were gonna say something Pete!

  1019. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    This may seem like gilding the lilly, but the Yankees batters are still showing plate discipline, in the 7th inning of a route. Speaks for good coaching by Kevin Long, and the respect the players have for his teaching. At least, I think so.

  1020. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    do I dare even say it, this game is so boring! although we all know, yeah, I will take it!

  1021. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    LOL, we got too many lucky points in one game. We’ve got to save some for the road games!

  1022. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Trisha, thank you for that thoughtful post. I’m always happy to give you credit when you take that approach. Sorry for the slow reply, but my brother called and wanted to discuss the game, among other things.

    Of course you have the right to your opinions and feelings, as do we all. That doesn’t make the feelings or opinions correct, however. As the late Senator Pat Moynihan said (and I paraphrase), everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.

    If you think that I an others are childish in the way we discuss the view that Posada hurts the team with his presence, that’s a valid point of view. And if you think my/our satire is condescending, you are probably right. However, if you revisit some of your own posts on this and other matters, you might see a good deal of condescension there as well. Not that two wrongs make a right.

    I (and others) have described some of your posts on this and other subjects as being passive-aggressive. I don’t blame you for taking offense at that characterization, but I hope you’ll consider whether it might at times have some validity.

    All I can say is that I try to make fun of the idea and not the person. I’m sure I fail sometimes, and I apologize for those lapses. I hope you’ll consider your own posts about me and others in this vein.

    On the subject at hand, I really do think that saying that the Yankees have a ‘huge problem’ with Posada is silly. You are not the only one who feels as you do, and not every “shot” I take is directed at you or you alone.

    Anyway, the big picture for today at least is that the Yankees are up 13-0 in much-needed laugher against the Mets’ ace, which was supposed to be impossible since I read on LoHud that the Yankees can’t beat good pitchers.

    I am happy to drop the subject (and the several others about which we have clashed) entirely for the duration of this happy day. And who knows, maybe even longer.

  1023. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    ex-Yankee Sandy Alomar Sr.

  1024. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    “Tricia, my experiences with catchers were that for the most part that they were indeed grumpy hardheaded sorts…Just look at Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup )….I also always felt that GB was a catcher somewhere in his past….He certainly has the diposition of a catcher….”

    :lol:

    I think I would either be a CF or RF because in real life I have more a Swisher or Melky disposition!

  1025. Doreen June 14th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Testing

  1026. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    SJ44
    June 14th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
    Thanks a lot GB. Perhaps you will be able to see him play sometime this summer. Let me know if you will be at a game.

    I’ve declared a family and friend boycott for the month of July. I don’t want anyone, myself included visiting him and distracting him as he adjusts to pro ball.

    Once we go into August, I will let family visit. I want him to be “all baseball” for the next few months.

    ————————————————————

    My pleasure, SJ. I’m hoping that I can get back to the parks in Charleston or Savannah by mid July. I don’t live in Savannah now, so I’m still trying to get my bills and payments in order, plus, getting up the nerve to drive in the mid day Savannah traffic. About 200,000 people and two ways into the city from the Georgia side and one way in from South Carolina..

  1027. RS June 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Phillies up 7-5 with a chance to do more damage.

  1028. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    HARDEE HAR HAR HAR!!!! 7-5

    I have to say I am never a fan of pouring it on once the score is so lopsided. Could the Yanks take it a little easy? I know that’s dumb because no team does that.

  1029. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    7-5 Phillies!

  1030. C June 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    7-5

  1031. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    If anyone is interested in viewing a slideshow of pictures I took at Friday night’s game, click on my tag. :)

  1032. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    and man on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out!!!

  1033. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    AWWWWW 2nd and 3rd, one out, 7-5.

    Gee, come on Sox. What up???

    :lol:

  1034. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    RT @John_W_Henry: Both bullpens are spent. Ours is one of the best I’ve ever seen.

  1035. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Sweet, I was a little worried about the superstition-related ramifications of scoring 13. (Yes, I still think Alex should change his jersey numbertoo)

  1036. C June 14th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Daniel Bard Next next Joba out of the pen i dont think so

  1037. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Oh my God. It’s that phenomenal, unhittable, sensational, indestructable, wish he were ours-able, member of the phenomenal, unhittable, sensational, indestructable, wish they were ours-able Boston bullpen – DA BARD!!!

    A thorn by any other name would hurt as much!

    :D

  1038. C June 14th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    this guy pitches like Kei Igawa

  1039. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    BBB -

    I always, always think Alex should re-think his uniform number. :lol:

  1040. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    You have to have an arm to play right Tricia….Man I just looked at the long overhead shot of the Stadium from the blimp….Wow, the warning tract in right to right center looks very close to the infield…..

  1041. igotid88 June 14th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    I wanna see Hughes for an inning.

  1042. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    ctrl F kei Igawa

  1043. RS June 14th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    15 runs today and only 4 scored on homeruns.

  1044. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    “@John_W_Henry: Both bullpens are spent. Ours is one of the best I’ve ever seen.”

    Hahaha, legends in his own mind. A good pen sure – best ever? Keep hitting that crack rock, man w/2 first names!

  1045. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    The curse of Julio Lugo strikes again!

  1046. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    9-5 phillys

  1047. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Pat M.
    June 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
    Tricia, my experiences with catchers were that for the most part that they were indeed grumpy hardheaded sorts…Just look at Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup )….I also always felt that GB was a catcher somewhere in his past….He certainly has the diposition of a catcher….

    ————————————————————

    Damned….you’ve been hanging around and golfing with Randy too much. LMAO.

    “Correct me if I wrong, Sandy, but, if I kill all the golfers, they’re going to lock me up and throw away the key.”

  1048. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    It’s always nice to see Trisha and Nick discuss their catching philosophies calmly and maturely in a non Bruney/K-Rod way.

    I Almost Had peacemaker Jose Veras warming up in the Lohud bullpen – just in case.

  1049. C June 14th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    9-5 Phillies Bard getting lit up

  1050. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    I wish I had valium. Oh no no no!!! Two more runs.

    OH BARD! WHEREFORE ARE THOU BARD?????

  1051. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    That was a pretty camera shot!

  1052. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 14th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Pena and Cano,

    Juggling cowhide, inning ends…

    A tenor intones…

  1053. RS June 14th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Phils up 9-5.

  1054. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Doreen – It’s always troubled me even more that he wears it in honor of Dan Marino. I love Marino, but at this point of his career, Alex needs less in common with the “greatest player who never won anything” mold, not more!

  1055. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    9-5 Phillies, and the 7th still isn’t over! Tito coming out for another pitching change

  1056. C June 14th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    The Hall of Famer Daniel Bard walks the pitcher on 4 pitches

  1057. 2009 Yankees June 14th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    They walk Coste to pitch to Chan Ho Park and then they walk him too! lol Although all 4 pitches were close according to espn’s gamecast

  1058. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    BBB – I was just about to write the same thing abt Marino. LOL. Yeah, Alex chose the wrong role model to emulate.

  1059. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    BBB -

    I didn’t know that about the #13 and Alex.

  1060. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Great Joba Robertson

  1061. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Nice inning, Dave.

  1062. RS June 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Robertson is great when he throws strikes.

  1063. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    ..aaaand Bard pens a tale of EPIC FAIL!

  1064. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Robertson is really impressing. Great job. Maybe we see more of him?

  1065. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    10-5 philly

  1066. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    this is soooo boring, but good for Robertson, good for all of them, this has to be a good confidence builder in many facets.

    Saito just totally hit Rollins! Bases loaded and it scored a run! baaaaaahaaaaa

  1067. Boston Dave (in Pittsburgh, PA) - OPPC member June 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Saito just drilled Rollins in the back after Rollins hit a HR last time up and the Phillies opened up a big lead

  1068. Joe I June 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Saito hits Rollins with the bases loaded on the first pitch, 10-5 philly

  1069. rmel June 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    D-Rob needs to pitch more…his stuff is nasty

  1070. C June 14th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    10-5 as rollin gets hit

  1071. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Does Arod endorse Isotoner gloves too?

  1072. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Nick, you and dennis have referred to my posts as passive-aggressive. I don’t see anyone else making that reference. That said, the best I can tell you is that sometimes posts don’t translate the way people intend for them to because the last thing I am in life is passive agressive. I am about as in-your-face as a person can get, much better known as totally aggressive. I can be purposely coy, or attempt to be purposely “whatever”, but really, it is never passive-aggressive. If it comes across that way, it certainly doesn’t come from that modality.

    Since I and others (but here I will speak for myself) see that Posada thing as a huge problem, I certainly don’t see it as silly. Or to paraphrase what you said, you certainly have the right to see it as such, but that doesn’t make it fact.

    So we can agree to disagree on this topic and others.

    I always believe in giving people their quarter since I know that perception is reality and therefore nobody corners the market on truth.

  1073. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    this game is way more fun to watch now!

  1074. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Saito wasn’t warned so they can retaliate if they feel like it :)

  1075. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Where was Robertson again in that eighth inning against the Sox?

  1076. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    11-5

  1077. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    wow Saito almost hit Victorino, but walked him, another run scored!

  1078. Lou in SoCal June 14th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Can somebody please help me out. I don’t understand what Dave Eiland’s excuse for our pitchers not throwing strikes? Are you kidding me? Because of the ballpark. So what was our excuse in Boston? Give me a break. It’s not like we don’t have one of the better hitting offenses in the majors?

  1079. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Bard’s ERA just went from 0.71 to 3.55 and he’s responsible for the man on 3rd

  1080. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    11-5 PHI

  1081. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    I too would like to see Robertson in closer games/higher leverage situations. Next time a late inning jam needs to be escaped, maybe they should give him a try instead of a SP who is not used to entering the game in such situations

  1082. C June 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    what is happening to the best bullpen in history baseball?

  1083. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    bard + today = 0.2 innings, 2h, 4, 4runs, 3 walks.

  1084. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Saito can’t throw a strike to save his life!

  1085. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Yankee trivia quiz – one more inning to go for a shutout today

    - the Yankee pitching staff already have two shutouts this year: who was the catcher for those games?

  1086. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Saito is getting pinched….

  1087. RS June 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    This is too funny. After walking the pitcher to load the bases, Boston allows the Phillies to score 3 more runs on 2 walks and a HBP.

  1088. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Doreen, I hope so, I’ve been rooting for him since last year. Bruney, Robertson, and Aceves in the pen is looking pretty good right now. Coke is even getting it back together. I would like to see Mark Melancon, also. Maybe later in the year.

    It’s a work in progress, just like everyone else. If they can get it straightened out in June, they should pile up the wins the second half of the year.

  1089. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    “Does Arod endorse Isotoner gloves too?”
    LMFAO! Thank you, someone had to go there :)

  1090. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    *THEIR VAUNTED PEN IS NOT SO SPECIAL*

    Now just shut up about it!

    :D

    Hey, where’s Mo’sflatcutter when you need him? Sulking because the Yankees are doing well?

  1091. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    wow, finally a K to end the inning

  1092. S June 14th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Safe to say Tomko or Veras gone Tuesday?

  1093. The Joker June 14th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Why so serious K-Rod?
    Why so serious Bahstahn’s bullpen?

  1094. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Damn josh gives up 7 runs

  1095. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Meanwhile, in Philly: the curse of tweeting about your bullpen’s greatness then immediately having them crap the bed shortly after?

  1096. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Bard not getting away with those straight high nineties FBs against the Phillies.
    Expect to see more of that as the league sees more of him.

  1097. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    “Yankee trivia quiz – one more inning to go for a shutout today

    – the Yankee pitching staff already have two shutouts this year: who was the catcher for those games?”

    :lol:

    Say it ain’t so!!!

    I would have answered sooner but I was temporarily mesmerized by something or another.

  1098. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    What is twitface Henry twittering now?? LMAO.

  1099. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Joe From LI -

    I agree.

    And if you’re going to have your team having some adjustments to make, better to know what they are earlier in the season, take care of them early and be set for the end run.

  1100. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    I wonder if Castillo gets booed at CitiField the next time they go home.

  1101. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Well, facing Alex Cora, Fernando Martinez and Fernando Tatis with a 15-0 lead isn’t exactly like coming in to face the Red Sox in a tight situation, but I agree the guy deserves a chance in those situations to see what he can do.

  1102. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    “Why so serious K-Rod?
    Why so serious Bahstahn’s bullpen?”

    LMAO!!!!!

  1103. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    “Yankee trivia quiz – one more inning to go for a shutout today

    – the Yankee pitching staff already have two shutouts this year: who was the catcher for those games?”

    ———–

    DT

    maybe you should actually check your facts because two different catchers caught the “shutouts”

  1104. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    “This is too funny. After walking the pitcher to load the bases, Boston allows the Phillies to score 3 more runs on 2 walks and a HBP.”

    Sounds like someone impersonating Joba. :P

  1105. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Doreen,

    You took some great shots…

    Especially liked 105!!! Spectacular!

  1106. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Wait – did Henry really tweet about his bullpen? I thought that was a joke.

  1107. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    DT
    maybe you should actually check your facts because two different catchers caught the “shutouts”

    I didn’t say it was the same guy!

    Molina caught one. Cervelli caught one.

  1108. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    lead off triple for Sox

  1109. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    DT, Molina and Cervelli.

  1110. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    So what are the odds that Cervelli will catch AJ next game? I hope Girardi addresses this issue in the post-game.

    I honestly believe that it was Cervelli who helped AJ get out of that bases loaded mess. No offense to Posada.

  1111. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    We have tomorrow off so don’t jump off a bridge because Phil is in.

  1112. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    That AVIS commercial is cute.

  1113. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Scorpio,

    I TOTALLY SECOND THAT NOTION!!!

  1114. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    “who was the catcher for those games?”

    ——–

    yes, you did

  1115. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Doreen- He really posted that. He is on crack.

  1116. C June 14th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    THe nationals coming in with 3 rookie starters YIKES!!!

  1117. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    lol Carl, you know this blog well. I was just about to say something about it, not having thought of the off-day. I assure you my comment would have been levelheaded though, haha.

  1118. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Dynasty is Destiny -

    Thanks.

    Jennifer -

    I guess for Red Sox fans it’s kinda cool, BUT, come on!

  1119. Don June 14th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    “THe nationals coming in with 3 rookie starters YIKES!!!”

    And we have Wang-Joba going in 2 of the games!

  1120. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Mets fans are so dumb if they boo Castillo next home stand…that’s not going to help their team…and we all know it can happen to anybody….we wouldn’t be booing Cano if he did it, would we?

  1121. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Who was playing with CMW’s hair? LOL!

  1122. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Doreen,Great pictures of the Satdium……

  1123. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Trisha: I will give you the last word on these subjects.

    I ask you to consider one thing, though, and no need to reply now. You’ve said a few things about me that have nothing to do with Posada or Berroa or Veras, etc. I hope you’ll consider those things if you would like to make peace.

  1124. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    oh but if A-Rod did it, we’d be all over him!!

  1125. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 14th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    PHI trying to give the lead back.

  1126. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Scorpio, I have Yankee pitchers on my fantasy team. I start them based on who’s catching, Posada or Cervelli. If Cervelli is catching them, I start them, if Posada is, I bench them. I’m glad Pete posts who’s catching and posts the lineup for the games.

  1127. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    I wanna know too, Laura – I’m thinking it might be Joba. Hilarious!

  1128. C June 14th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    “we wouldn’t be booing Cano if he did it, would we?”

    Yes we would

  1129. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    RE: AJ Burnett

    what is more impressive?

    a shutout of this Mets lineup over 7 innings?

    or giving up just 3 runs against a potent Rangers lineup over 7 innings (what AJ did 2 starts ago with Posada catching)?

    Nobody here has a clue about MLB game-calling, myself included.

  1130. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Snr citixen cuts off El Nino

  1131. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    dont ruin shut out.

  1132. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Thanks, Pat M. :)

  1133. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    David Cone knows what hes talking about.

  1134. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    “Scorpio, I have Yankee pitchers on my fantasy team. I start them based on who’s catching, Posada or Cervelli. If Cervelli is catching them, I start them, if Posada is, I bench them.”

    ——-

    at least you’re not picking based on whether the opponent has a pretty uniform anymore.

  1135. Z Mac June 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Why is the Sr. Citizen in tge game?

  1136. Trevor June 14th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Did Cone watch Hughes starts? He was throwing 94 too as a starter.

  1137. BBB June 14th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Rookie starters or not, if we don’t rape Washington sideways, heads better roll!

  1138. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    nah, Phillies are ok, 2 outs in the 8th

  1139. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    who pies AJ?

  1140. Vrsce June 14th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Scorpio

    I agree with Cervelli over Posada when Burnett pitches. In fact I thenk that Posada is not a good catcher at all. DH yes.

  1141. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    “Scorpio, I have Yankee pitchers on my fantasy team. I start them based on who’s catching, Posada or Cervelli. If Cervelli is catching them, I start them, if Posada is, I bench them. I’m glad Pete posts who’s catching and posts the lineup for the games.”

    Wow Sean, you just gave me a great idea.

  1142. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Shut them out!

  1143. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    “who pies AJ?”

    ——

    did he hit a walkoff?

  1144. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    just in love with Cervelli! XX

  1145. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    “we wouldn’t be booing Cano if he did it, would we?”

    only if he was blowing a bubble when he did it.

  1146. igotid88 June 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    HUUUUUGHES

  1147. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    good job philly

  1148. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Boston Dave…..Great humor…

  1149. Jeff NJ - Wang Relief June 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Just caught up with the game thread. My opinions:

    I enjoyed the panic over AJ when he loaded the bases with no outs. Always fun to read that after the fact. Well AJ impressed, he’ll be fine.

    Nice reading the Tony Sanchez saga. Not sure I’d want SJ44 managing my allowance, but I guess having an adult watch a suddenly rich 21 year olds money is usually a good idea. Congrats SJ44, sounds like you were a very involved uncle. Are you his agent?

    Nick vs. Trisha. Hmm, well Nick is certainly snarky, but usually funny. He does get a bit tougher vs. Trisha, but usually Nick’s comments are sharp and funny. Trisha loves an underdog, but is equal opportunity, she does tend to get offended easy, but she’s a good fan. I’ll call it a draw.

    I went to the games the last two days, this one would have been the better one to go to. Oh well, glad we’ll get the series win. Look out dregs of the NL East, here come the Yankees!

  1150. brent June 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    I think the Yankees read thus blog,and got motivated. n/t
    No back page of the Post for the METS,it goes to the Yankees today

    Philly leads RS 11-6 bottom of 8th, so far still 2 back

  1151. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Dutch,

    yeah, then you’re right!

  1152. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    3rd Yankee shutout of the year. Good job Cervelli.

  1153. Remo June 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Tampa sweeps the Nats

    Look out, they are red hot.

  1154. Boston Dave - OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    “I agree with Cervelli over Posada when Burnett pitches.”

    ———

    Burnett was better 2 starts ago with Posada catching.

    The Mets lineup today is a joke compared to the Texas Rangers lineup he beat with POSADA catching.

    Some of you should apply for major league coaching jobs. You know so much about game-calling it’s amazing you aren’t in the big leagues.

  1155. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    And a re-post from last night:

    “By the way, as of just over 12 hours before gametime, the Yankees are the betting favorite tomorrow. I’ll take my winnings a la mode. :)

  1156. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Sox down to their last 3 outs

  1157. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    “I hope you’ll consider those things if you would like to make peace.”

    Kindly, from my perspective, I think I am really going a bit to even be posting to you. You have been downright mean toward me both when I have been around and when I have not. I find no humor in those things at all. In the past when I have let bygones be bygones, you have just reverted to form.

    I don’t have a lot of trust when it comes to you. I think life is working best with us staying in our own corners for now.

  1158. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    “Tampa sweeps the Nats

    Look out, they are red hot.”

    ——–

    Nats are pretty bad but they can score runs. Yanks pitching needs to show up and they’ll sweep as well.

  1159. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Trisha, it’s worked well for me so far.

  1160. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    “HUUUUUGHES”

    correction

    YUSSSSSSSSE ;)

  1161. Papa Smurf June 14th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Burnett pitches a good game with Cervelli there is no debate anymore.

  1162. Chris S. June 14th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    I thought the Berroa jokes were like beating a dead horse, but I gotta admit I did chuckle about the hbp hip replacement joke. heh

  1163. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    I ADORE, repeat ADORE Francisco Cervelli. And it has to do with a lot more than the eyes.

    I see him as a mini Jeter, someone called up to fill in and making one hell of an impression. I just hope the Yankees keep this kid around for a long time to come.

  1164. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    that’s shutout # what for Cisco caught games ?

  1165. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    AJ with Cervelli catching today: 111 pitches, 66 strikes

    AJ with Posada catching against Texas on June 2 – 110 pitches, 71 strikes

    maybe you all don’t know as much as you think you do.

    maybe AJ pitches well when he throws strikes.

    what a novel idea!

  1166. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Just got in. Listened to the game on radio. Great job by the Yankees but baseball is so unpredicatble. They could not touch the rookie yesterday and today score 9 off of Santana.

  1167. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Correction – I know he wasn’t a rookie

  1168. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Trisha I compare him to better looking La Duca :lol:

  1169. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    My God…what a dog Santana is. They seriously need to bench him or put him on the DL until he gets his head out of his….

  1170. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Boston Dave, if three people say you are sick, lie down.

  1171. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Unpredictable…

    An ace goes down for the count…

    First clouds, then comes sun…

  1172. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    “that’s shutout # what for Cisco caught games ?”

    Cervelli has caught two of the three shutouts this year. Molina has the other.

  1173. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Mets announcers think Santana is going on the DL

  1174. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Boston Dave – were you here earlier? On YES it was reported that AJ & Cervelli was paired ON PURPOSE because AJ is more comfortable with Cervelli and they even noted AJ’s 7+ ERA when paired with Posada.

    So this is not about us fans being armchair coaches. IT CAME FROM THE MANAGER HIMSELF.

  1175. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Nick in Sf…I rode the Yanks today,as I did all three games…..

  1176. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Sean, I was on the verge of dropping Joba. I almost sat Burnett today but had the feeling that today was going to be special. I didn’t even know that Cervelli was catching him when I activated him. What hurts is that you know Cervelli won’t get any more games than one out of 5. I believe there would be Posada hell to pay if Girardi even attempted that – not that he would.

  1177. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Regarding the rookie pitcher thing, anyone see the Star-Ledger story on yesterday’s game? Girardi was asked about the inability to hit pitchers they’ve never seen, and he (and Damon) admitted it was a problem. Girardi then said if he knew how to fix it, he would. Then he went on to say that some of the players want to know what a guy throws while others don’t, they just want to go up and see the ball and react. I wondered if that meant some guys weren’t watching video or studying scouting reports. Because if that’s the case… it would explain a lot.

  1178. Brandon ----> Brandon 4 Cena 0 June 14th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    “Cervelli has caught two of the three shutouts this year. Molina has the other.”

    impressive for a rookie

  1179. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    When Cervelli’s glove plus his bat produces and saves for runs and wins than Posada’s bat and glove does, only then can you talk about who has more value.

  1180. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Trisha, I was referring to very specific things you said about me, things which you have to this date neither explained nor backed up with either facts or even assertions, at least not in any comments I’ve read. I think you know what I’m talking about. If you don’t, I’d be happy to refresh your memory.

  1181. Wei June 14th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Maybe the weather? When AJ pitched in Boston, it was freezing! (For a June night)

  1182. Meat Loaf June 14th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Yep ….. Two out of three ain’t bad.

  1183. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Correction: saves ***more*** runs and wins than

  1184. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 14th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Trisha, good move with your fantasy line-up and Burnett:)

  1185. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    “Boston Dave – were you here earlier? On YES it was reported that AJ & Cervelli was paired ON PURPOSE because AJ is more comfortable with Cervelli and they even noted AJ’s 7+ ERA when paired with Posada.

    So this is not about us fans being armchair coaches. IT CAME FROM THE MANAGER HIMSELF.”

    ———

    It’s not rocket science. AJ has great stuff. He needs to throw strikes.

    If he can’t locate, it doesn’t matter who is catching him.

    AJ throws two damn pitches. The idea that a catcher calls a 2-pitch pitcher well is so laughable that it makes the Joba to the pen argument sound reasonable.

  1186. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Nick and Trisha, can’t we all just get along? :)
    Today was a great day. We won 15-0. Let’s enjoy.

    Look, here’s how you do it:

    GreenBeret7, I’m sorry I called you a jackass yesterday. I was frustrated about the game and took it out on you. I felt bad about it, it was over the line.

  1187. yanksince57-was last year 1959 or was it 1965? June 14th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    i’m just closing my eyes until 2011/2012 when cervelli is girardi to montero’s posada :)

  1188. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    “It’s not rocket science. AJ has great stuff. He needs to throw strikes.”

    Of course, but when your strikeout stuff isn’t there, the pitcher needs to be guided. Today for instance, Cone noted that AJ was pitching backwards, going with his breaking stuff, establishing it for a strike…No one knows who called that gameplan. Was it Cervelli or AJ or Eiland…we don’t know. All we as fans sees are results. So when Po & AJ start getting good results this will go away.

  1189. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    “i’m just closing my eyes until 2011/2012 when cervelli is girardi to montero’s posada”

    —–

    sounds good to me.

    unless they can get Joe Mauer for anything less than $30M a season :)

  1190. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    1.99 era 22.2 ip 12h 5runs 11walks 30k;s

    Lhp mike Dunn in Double AA in his last 10 appearances…can he get a call up to AAA..he is on the 40

  1191. Remo June 14th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    This is Burnett’s career in a nut-shell. Great one game, mediocre the next, mixed in with some implosions.

    It has nothing to do with the catcher.

  1192. Sean Serritella June 14th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Trisha, when one of my fantasy pitchers is pitching and Posada is slated to catch, I get pretty annoyed. I’m pretty annoyed that Posada is even catching for the Yankees in the first place. If I had my way, he wouldn’t see a catcher’s face mask for the rest of his career. I don’t want him near my pitchers.

  1193. Eric June 14th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    “1.99 era 22.2 ip 12h 5runs 11walks 30k;s

    Lhp mike Dunn in Double AA in his last 10 appearances…can he get a call up to AAA..he is on the 40″

    Needs to be in AAA. He has SU stuff. Better than Every Day Phil Coke.

  1194. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Phillys win

  1195. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    “No one knows who called that gameplan. Was it Cervelli or AJ or Eiland…we don’t know.”

    ——-

    you don’t know?

    that’s funny. there are quite a few people here who are acting like they do know.

    that’s the problem. the people here talk about game calling and catching skills as if they have a clue.

    I’d listen to randy l, who I believe has actually played the position.

    if he said he sees something wrong with posada’s game calling, I’d listen to what he had to say.

    so far, the people closest to the game who know more than you or I do, have said that the claim that Cervelli is a much better game caller than Posada has no basis.

  1196. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Phillies win!

  1197. Frank June 14th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    If we get to the playoffs… you think Cervelli/Molina will start a game?

    Burnett, Joba etc. have to learn how to pitch to Posada. Make it work.

  1198. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Nick, as I said, I think it’s best to leave things as they are. I do much better when we’re not in communication.

  1199. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Girardi is talking about AJ getting out of jams b/c he’s a strikeout guy…..really?

  1200. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    A-Rod and Swish are the only 0 fors today!

  1201. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    it was a true Troll free day. :-)

    I missed the brilliant predictions of Mo’sflatcutter. I was hoping for something like this.

    Swisher: walk.
    Matsui: homer.
    Cabrera: double.
    Cervelli: single.
    Jeter: single.
    Damon: double
    Teixeira: single.
    Rodriguez: Triple Play. (or maybe just a DP)
    Cano: homer.
    Swisher: walk.
    Matsui: walk.
    Cabrera: double (or maybe an out)

  1202. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    “This is Burnett’s career in a nut-shell. Great one game, mediocre the next, mixed in with some implosions.

    It has nothing to do with the catcher.”

    ———-

    pretty much…

    as I said, two starts ago he had perhaps his best game as a Yankee beating the high-scoring Rangers with Posada catching –

    110 pitches and 71 strikes!!!

    then he pitched a dud.

    now he pitches well again.

    AJ can look for excuses, like the catcher, to explain why he’s been so inconsistent.

    until he starts executing his 2 pitches, he won’t have that.

    if his curveball is on, he could just throw that pitch over and over and win games.

  1203. jennifer June 14th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    The Yankees needed this game. It has been awhile since they’ve had a laugher.

  1204. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    “Burnett, Joba etc. have to learn how to pitch to Posada. Make it work.”

    ———-

    I’d prefer they simply learn how to throw strikes and control their pitches.

  1205. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    can’t wait to see how Bruney does coming back…could really just finish out our issues

  1206. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    You know what Boston Dave, read back on the thread and spare me the attitude.

    When the manager replaces an established catcher & bat with a rookie so his pitcher can be “more comfortable” that is saying much more than what randy l can hypothesize on.
    (no offense to randy l.)

    Cervelli & AJ won today. That’s a fact. Enjoy your evening!

  1207. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    “The Yankees needed this game. It has been awhile since they’ve had a laugher.”

    ———

    day off tomorrow too. the bullpen gets some much needed rest.

  1208. Dr. J June 14th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Next 6 games

    Sabathia vs. Mathis
    Wang vs. Lannen
    Joba vs. Stammen
    Pettitte vs. Josh Johnson
    Burnett vs. West
    Sabathia vs. Volsted

  1209. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    DutchHugo, it’s all good. I do best when I don’t communicate with Nick. I don’t reference him unless he takes a shot at me. The obvious progression is that if he doesn’t take shots, there is no animosity.

    End of story. I will not respond further on this.

  1210. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    “You know what Boston Dave, read back on the thread and spare me the attitude. ”

    ——-

    why?

    I only need to read one of your posts to know you have no clue what you’re talking about.

    opinion is fine. if you like cervelli, that’s great. he looks like a promising young catcher and i hope he keeps it up.

    but let’s get something straight, neither you nor I know much about game-calling.

    stop making yourself like like an even bigger idiot by pretending you do.

  1211. rmel June 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Next 6 games

    Sabathia vs. Mathis
    Wang vs. Lannen
    Joba vs. Stammen
    Pettitte vs. Josh Johnson
    Burnett vs. West
    Sabathia vs. Volsted

    I would say 4-2 would be about right

  1212. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    “This is Burnett’s career in a nut-shell. Great one game, mediocre the next, mixed in with some implosions.

    It has nothing to do with the catcher.”

    REMO, while you may be correct since AJ has said he feels better with Cervelli as his catcher, that may go a long way toward having him pitch better or helping him feel better about getting out of jams – as we saw happen today. As long as it works for him, who are we to question it?

  1213. Scorpio June 14th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Boston Dave STHU, you are insulting for no reason…read the thread to see that I never clamed that one catcer was better than the other. Get a life, Idiot.

  1214. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Nick in SF, even though I won 2 of 3 in the series, I just won a few bucks because of yesterday’s game…The Yanks were literally a 2 to 1 fav……You need to stop throwing high hard one’s at Tricia….

  1215. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Trisha: you can do as you please. But you’re the one who called me a liar, a fraud, and a good number of other insulting things (for which you could have been banned from this forum), so I’m sure you’ll understand why I am not as happy to ‘leave things as they are’ as you are.

  1216. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    With tomorrow an off day, Posada was getting today off no matter what we think….That’s like a vacation for a catcher……

  1217. RS June 14th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    We need to sweep the Nationals at home now.

  1218. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Scorpio,

    you said “no one knows”.

    I agreed.

    let’s leave it at that.

  1219. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    AJ feelin good, he says, and loves the rythm with Cervelli, said he shook him off once or twice, that’s it

  1220. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Pat M: the odds for yesterday’s game were why betting straight up on the Yankees is a long-term losing proposition not matter how well they play. When it gets to -200 or worse, especially with Pettitte pitching, I dial down my wager if I play the game at all.

  1221. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Looked like AJ had the belt in his locker.

    It’s a gorgeous belt, but does anyone else think the toy belt was better?

  1222. Joe from Long Island June 14th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    D-Train got clobbered agaiin, by Pittsburgh (Ross Ohlendorf got the win, now 6-5, good for him).

    We saw Willis pitch in Lakeland against the Yankees, when we went to ST. He got clobbered there too, had nothing on the ball but his fingers. Detroit has a lot invested in someone who looks like he’s at the end of the line. They seem to specialize in that (re: Sheffield, Ordonez). He had so much promise to be a star for baseball.

  1223. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    BTW, there was just an inside-the-park homer in SF, perhaps the most exciting play in baseball.

  1224. joe "moses" torre June 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    c’mon pete, where is the arod is the hole in the lineup post that we are all waiting for?

  1225. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    “AJ feelin good, he says, and loves the rythm with Cervelli, said he shook him off once or twice, that’s it”

    ———–

    he throws 2 pitches.

    unless the catcher calls a screwball, how many pitches do you expect him to shake off?

  1226. Papa Smurf June 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Posada can learn a lot from Cervelli about calling a game.

  1227. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Speaking of Yankees classics, does Friday night’s gift win qualify for a classic??? :lol:

  1228. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Nick,

    they were -200 ?

    there are very few matchups that would seem to be profitable with those odds.

  1229. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Nick in SF…..I remember when the Yanks played the Padres in 98….Every game had the Yanks at 225 and up, reaching a high of 265 for game 4…..I’ve never seen numbers like taht before…..As for yesterday, I took a hit, but loaded up today…Still the Yanks are not a good bet as you pointed out…You need to pick and choose…..Wait until the numbers come out for the next series….

  1230. Don June 14th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Anyone see Pelfrey on the Mets postgame?

    He commented on the altercation… he was pretty cool about it. Said he just wanted to make sure it didn’t escalate and K-Rod is a gamer and he can understand why he was upset. Said if he was in the same situation he probably would have just let it go.

  1231. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    This “Cervelli is God” BS is the same crap as last year and the year before when everyone was crying to put Albero Gonzales in and either get rid of Cano or Rodriguez or move Jeter to the outfield so the next Gold Glove HOFer could take over. He’s doing ok, but, he’s still not starting for the Nats. The NLE isn’t the ALE. I’m sure those 6 errors in 14 games at shortstop won’t help his cause, either.

    Let him get some experience (like about two years) before declaring him the answer. When he stops hitting over .250, you’ll want him gone, too. Just like anyone else that doesn’t play as well as you decide they should.

  1232. Jayare June 14th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Boston Dave
    June 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
    “AJ feelin good, he says, and loves the rythm with Cervelli, said he shook him off once or twice, that’s it”
    —————-

    he throws 2 pitches.

    unless the catcher calls a screwball, how many pitches do you expect him to shake off?

    ——————————————————–

    He has two different fastballs and he did throw his changeup a couple of times today.

  1233. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Looks like I missed a fantastic game today. So many pretty runs.

    What happened to Santana? Did Cashman put a curse on him or something?
    I see the great Posada debate is still going on around here. :roll:
    K-Rod and Bruney got into it with each other? Please tell me they were near the O’Neill banner.
    AJ’s pitching line doesn’t look to bad, but how did he actually seem today?

    Hopefully I can watch this game at some point today.

  1234. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    I’m starting to worry that some team will panic and overpay for Brad Penny giving the Sox a quality bat.

    Penny needs to get hammered in his next start (please :) )

  1235. GGGB June 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    The Posada Truthers are feeling threatened. Who knew an angel eyed kid could cause such a stir? Haha.

  1236. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    God those eyes!!!!

  1237. Nick in SF in Larkspur June 14th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Dave: I think it was actually -210 on my book, probably slightly different at other places. Not a great bet, no. It was -120 on the run line. Odds on Yankee games are supposedly the worst for any team. I’ve never tried it, but I’ve heard that betting against the Yankees every single game for a full season has been a profitable strategy several years in a row.

  1238. Mike June 14th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    I happen to be a Posada AND a Cervelli truther.

  1239. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    That was the advantage that Burnett had that he usually doesn’t have. He got a huge lead, early in the game and he was able to work on his other pitches in a game situation. That’s much better than working on them in side sessions, because he can see the results.

  1240. Ring man June 14th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Two words -

    Sell Cervelli high.

    Go out and get another starter or a young SS.

  1241. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Boy I can’t think of a better way to structure a Sunday night. A huge Yankee win, a Red Sox loss, and whatever I want to do to enjoy the rest of Sunday.

    Awesome!

  1242. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    I called it! I called it! I called it!

    Just saying.

  1243. GGGB June 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    What about Boston when he was spotted a 6 run lead? What happened there?

  1244. Ridin this wave June 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    ah, yeah, we will sweep the Nats – they are like a AA team

  1245. Dave D. June 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    So Posada stops Burnett, Joba, and now even Andy from throwing strikes?

    Damn him!!!

  1246. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    I love Cervelli’s attitude, outlook, simple approach and exuberance.

    I will not get into the Great Catching Debate, however. :lol:

  1247. Jayare June 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    K-Rod is a clown good to see Brian Bruney get into his head.

  1248. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    I really like Cervelli. I also really like Posada.

    Those 2 facts are not necessarily incompatible.

  1249. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Jayare,

    he maybe threw 2 or 3 pitches that weren’t 4-seamers or curveballs.

    but ok.

  1250. Benny Blanco June 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    AJ…said cervy knew what he wanted to throw.. he didnt have to think.

  1251. Pat M. June 14th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Frankly this whole catcher issue keeps the LoHud humor level on a high …..This isn’t like Munson taking over for Jake Gibbs…..Cervelli / Molina will get a game a week behind the plate….Maybe next season it may jump up to 2 games as Jorge gets an extra dh game in…..

  1252. jvcelt June 14th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    its funny how that combination (we win, they lose) makes everything so much easier to bear. we have to work tomorrow, the wife is whining, but still its all good.
    the ship is righted once more, back on course, off we go. good bye tampa, hello boston.

  1253. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Doreen,

    I agree with you. Cervelli has to have exceeded everybody’s expectations.

    I like his hustle and speed too. I’d gotten used to the slow Posada and Molina.

    Cervelli has legged out a couple hits which is rare for a catcher.

    That said, the Yanks still need Posada to be the man if they want to win this year.

  1254. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Okay, one more time: I called this game from a mile away. I CALLED IT.

    Now I’m done. But I needed that.

  1255. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Doreen – I can’t access your pics for some reason.

  1256. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    GB7, the logic is falwed. He blew up after a 6-0 lead in Boston.

  1257. trisha - OPPC lifetime member June 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    “That said, the Yanks still need Posada to be the man if they want to win this year.”

    Boston Dave, now that’s a sentiment with which I couldn’t agree more.

  1258. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    falwed is flawed.

  1259. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Pat M,

    but… but… but…

    but you’re right.

  1260. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Ring man, I’m assuming you meant three words.

    But you may be right. Forget SS though. Ask for a bullpen arm and maybe even a prospect at SP.

  1261. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Cervelli does have nice eyes
    Just to spread the love fairly, Posada seem to have very nice teeth. Good job by him and his dentist

  1262. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    seem=seems

  1263. rconn23 June 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    The beautiful thing about the great catching debate is there is no debate.

    Posada is a borderline Hall of Fame catcher. Cervelli is a 22-year old kid fresh out of Double AA. End of debate.

    He’s played well in reserve duty and hopefully he can eventually become the full time backstop in a couple of years.

    Does Cervelli get the blame for Burnett walking the bases loaded, or just the credit for Burnett getting out of the jam?

    It’s on Burnett, whatever happens. And that’s all there is to it.

    And besides, the Yankees staff know they’re not going anywhere this year without Posada in the lineup.

    Posada was gone last year and in his place – “expert game caller” Jose Molina.

    How did that work out? No playoffs.

  1264. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    I need Pel, lol

  1265. m June 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    What a win!

    People can moan and groan about the gift win on Friday and how we would be this and that.

    But the fact of the matter is a lot of positive things happened today.

    And thanks to the “gift” win, we won the series. Which is the whole point of the exercise.

    Doesn’t matter who’s pitching, who’s catching, which DH has rice krispie knees, which reliever couldn’t put out a candle.

    And today should tell you, that you shouldn’t fret about an opposing pitcher a week or two in advance. Because games aren’t played on paper. Johan and Beckett both got rocked and the Yankees and Phils both pick up a game.

    Rest day, and then focus on the next game.

  1266. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    NESN post-game email question: “What are the Red Sox options with Dice-K?”

    I swear, if they changed the name to Wang – the conversation sounded the same.

    - Can’t send him to the minors.
    - DL again is a possibility.
    - Might have to just go to the bullpen.

  1267. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    “Cervelli does have nice eyes
    Just to spread the love fairly, Posada seem to have very nice teeth. Good job by him and his dentist”

    —–

    lol

    do his teeth make up for the fact that he urinates on his hands? :)

  1268. GGGB June 14th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    So let’s think about this.

    Rubber match against cross-town rivals, against a Cy Young winner Santana, AJ not pitching up to potential, offense sputtering with RISP, swept by Boston, nearly lost 2 in a row against said opponent and the manager decides to put a rookie catcher & mediocre bat rather than the GREAT JORGE POSADA.

    Indictment is on. Posada Truthers beware.

  1269. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    “Does Cervelli get the blame for Burnett walking the bases loaded, or just the credit for Burnett getting out of the jam?

    It’s on Burnett, whatever happens. And that’s all there is to it.”

    ———-

    If, or as long as Burnett pitches well, I’m a-ok with it.

    But you’re 100% right.

    I hope AJ isn’t making excuses for his inconsistency. At the end of the day, it’s on him. Nothing more. Nothing less.

  1270. Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Francessa is going to kill Bruney tomorrow

    He might spend more time on that than our win today.

  1271. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 14th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    do his teeth make up for the fact that he urinates on his hands?

    ==================

    Eeeww.
    I forgot about that tidbit regarding Posada. Focus on the teeth!! :P

  1272. RER - 98 June 14th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    I saw Frankie Cervelli 3 years ago with Single A Tampa and his work etheic was good then. It was easy to see that he’d be a hard nosed catcher. Maybe with some teaching with Kevin Long he’ll become a decent hitter.
    A future tandum of Montero and Cervelli could be something. There’s also Austin Romine in the mix.

  1273. Josh June 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Josh
    June 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
    Carl,

    Your an idiot. You can’t be serious with that prediction? I’m going to say AJ throws 7 innings with 1 run and 8 k’s.

    * All you Burnett hates can suck on it.

  1274. Jayare June 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Dave
    June 14th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
    Francessa is going to kill Bruney tomorrow

    He might spend more time on that than our win today.

    —————————————

    Francesa is a moron he kills Joba’s fistpump but doesn’t say anything about K-Rod antics.

  1275. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    “Indictment is on. Posada Truthers beware.”

    ———

    That’s funny. Posada caught AJ’s dominant start against a far superior offense (especially with the Mets injuries) 2 starts ago.

    If you want to make an argument that Cervelli is the better catcher, whatever.

    But using AJ Burnett, one of the most inconsistent pitchers in the game relative to his stuff, is probably not the best way to go about doing it.

  1276. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    This comment was made by someone the other day when I casually mentioned that I thought we’d win today. I find it amusing.

    Do you honestly think that this team with wild oats Burnett on the mound and a hit or miss offense, that got shut down by a journeyman scrub today, even when said scrub couldn’t throw first pitch strikes consistently is going to beat Johan Santana?
    You are a brave man.

  1277. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Cervelli will never be more than a very good backup in my humble opinion. He is not a good enough hitter to start every day.

  1278. Wow. June 14th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    A.J. is his own man and he’s responsible for his own game. This is not a Cervelli v. Posada issue. Trying to make it one just causes angst in the group. How about rooting for both of them?

    A.J. can have his own catcher, but you do not have to diminish Posada’s talent in the process. It’s ridiculous…and much like some who gave up on Tex or wanted Jeter in CF or thought CC was a bust after Opening Day, you look pretty silly, whether you eventually cop to it or not.

  1279. Rick June 14th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Boston Dave
    June 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    “Cervelli does have nice eyes
    Just to spread the love fairly, Posada seem to have very nice teeth. Good job by him and his dentist”

    ……………………

    Gammons has always envied the teeth of Jorge.

  1280. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    anyway, this turned out to be a great series for the Yanks and an even more deflating one for the Mets.

    the Yankees are 9 games over .500 despite the pitching woes they’ve had…

    if AJ turns it around, for whatever reason, it only makes the team that much better.

  1281. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    This was a very nice bouncebback series, however they got it done.

  1282. West side June 14th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Eliand himself said that the control problems are a result of the pitchers being afraid of the ballpark.

    How is that on Posada? Did he build the ballpark?

  1283. Carl June 14th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Josh June 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Josh
    June 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
    Carl,

    Your an idiot. You can’t be serious with that prediction? I’m going to say AJ throws 7 innings with 1 run and 8 k’s.

    It was a joke…I’m a Burnett Supporter!

  1284. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    I b in second half of bounceback.

    I’m actually into watching the new Yankees classic tomorrow. That used to be my favorite win of the year before the dropped ball.

  1285. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    “Gammons has always envied the teeth of Jorge.”

    ———-

    Gammons would envy the teeth of a Austin Powers

    (or Baba Booey, or even Beetlejuice, for you Stern fans)

  1286. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    West side, I happen to believe that Posada has no problem calling games. However the issue with that logic is that, in theory, some catchers call games as if they’re afraid balls will be hit out and as a result create a self fulfilling prophecy where the badly called pitches ARE hit out.

    I don’t buy it, but I think that’s the mindset.

  1287. Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    I want to sweep the Nats.

  1288. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Replace the word mindset with idea.

  1289. Boston Dave June 14th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Wow,

    you may have said it best.

    Cervelli has been a savior though with Posada and Molina going down. I know better than to assume he won’t regress at all but he’s given the Yanks more than they expected.

    Posada carries some risk with his age and injuries. It’s great knowing they have capable backups.

    I’ll root for whoever puts the mask on. Go Posada! Go Molina! Go Cervelli!

  1290. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    With Wang pitching a sweep would be nice but 2 of 3 would be fine by me (no rhyme intended).

  1291. ANSKY June 14th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    I just got in … is it too late to post a lineup complaint????

  1292. Sevendust June 14th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Berroa is hitting .125

    He also booted an easy DP ball today

  1293. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Boston Dave, I agree with you on the catcher debate.

  1294. m June 14th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    I don’t think anyone is diminishing Jorge (and if they are, shame on them).

    Any pitchers in the house? Do you pitch better when you have a certain level of comfort with the catcher?

    Pitchers are humans, not machines. If they have personal preferences, it’s only human. It happens all over baseball, and on the Yankees for years. most famously with moose.

    So, it’s probably more about Jose & Francisco, than Jorge.

  1295. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Just saw a note flashed on a game screen….on this date in 1974, Nolan Ryan, struck put 19, walked 10, in 13 innings and got a no-decision. He threw 235 pitches.

    He pitched a complete game in his start before that, but, couldn’t gut it out past 6 innings in his next start against the Yanks. He struck out 7 and won, 3-0.

  1296. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Trisha -

    I don’t know why you can’t access the pix. You can try doreensfamilyalbum.shutterfly.com

  1297. Donald June 14th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Wang is going up against their best pitcher, Lannan.

  1298. Buddy Biancalana-- I ain't no Debbie Downer! June 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Doreen-

    Great photos! Looks like you & your family had a great time.

  1299. 7 UP June 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    AJ will be even better when Josey comes back

  1300. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Okay, I just read through the comments. Who was pitching, A.J. or Cisco?

    Comments like, bad pitch Cisco, get that in the strike zone (all paraphrased), or “Wow, Cisco just bailed A.J. out”.

    Um, A.J. pitched, not Cervelli.

  1301. m June 14th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Gameday had Hughes at 95 on that last pitch to Schneider…

  1302. randy l. June 14th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    “Frankly this whole catcher issue keeps the LoHud humor level on a high …”

    pat m-

    it’s not really a debate as much as it’s a baseball IQ test :)

  1303. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 14th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Buddy Biancalana -

    It was really a magical day for us from beginning to end.

    I spent the afternoon in Times Square with the girls and then met up with my husband. I never expected to have fun riding the NYC subway, but I absolutely did – and it was sardine can time on the way up.

    The only thing I never like about going to a baseball game live is you really miss a lot that you’re used to getting by watching on tv or listening on the radio. That’s why I asked the other day if they still make transistor radios. I remember going to games when I was a young fan and seeing the older gentlemen in the stands listening to their transistors with earplugs and I really didn’t understand why. Now, I do. :) Everyone has a cell phone – no one has a radio. Now, I guess if you have an iPhone, it’s possible to get all the info you might miss – I mean you can log onto Lohud right?

  1304. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house
    June 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
    GB7, the logic is falwed. He blew up after a 6-0 lead in Boston.

    ————————————————————

    Nothing flawed about it. An early 6-0 lead in the 4th inning at Fenway is not the same as a 13-0 lead against the Mets in the 5th inning.

  1305. Mike June 14th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Adam Schien is going to destroy Bruney

  1306. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    m, Hughes pitched?

    After the fourth inning I left my house. So he hit 95, huh?

  1307. m June 14th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Wait,

    That was sarcasm because of the silly catcher debate.

  1308. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    GreenBeret7, you said he pitched better because he had a large lead right?

    That means nothing. He had a large lead in Boston and blew it. Thus flawed logic.

  1309. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Oh, okay. Thanks m.

  1310. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Just got back from seeing Taking Pelham 123-good shots of NY and a mention of the Yankees in the end.

    Saw the game until we led 13-0, and was pretty impressed with Burnett, especially getting out of a bases loaded jam. Just when I was starting to think we should have gotten Derrick Lowe instead of Burnett, I see where he was clobbered by the Orioles today, and realize he wouldn’t have fared as well in the AL East.

    Of the next six games-

    Sabathia vs. Mathis
    Wang vs. Lannan
    Joba vs. Stammen
    Pettitte vs. Josh Johnson
    Burnett vs. West
    Sabathia vs. Volsted

    It looks like Wang has pulled the toughest pitcher in John Lannan. Hope the Yankees score early!

    Anyone still unhappy we didn’t get Santana instead of Sabathia, for our 24+Million/year?

  1311. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Yankee Trader, that means no Hughes or Melky.

    I think Hughes will be a great player and Melky will be a fine backup. But Hughes is the important one. I’m glad we kept him.

  1312. Yankee Trader June 14th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Josh Johnson is no slouch either. Pettitte needs to show he can pitch, or give up his slot to Hughes.

  1313. GreenBeret7 June 14th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house
    June 14th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
    GreenBeret7, you said he pitched better because he had a large lead right?

    That means nothing. He had a large lead in Boston and blew it. Thus flawed logic.

    ————————————————————

    Well, you’re wrong for the second time, and it’s still not flawed.

    I didn’t say about him pitching better with a big lead. Read it again and comprehend it. I said the early, big lead gave him a chance to work on other pitches like his change-up. He broke it out in the 5th inning.

    “GreenBeret7
    June 14th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
    That was the advantage that Burnett had that he usually doesn’t have. He got a huge lead, early in the game and he was able to work on his other pitches in a game situation. That’s much better than working on them in side sessions, because he can see the results.”

  1314. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Ah. Okay. I get it.

    No problem then GreenBeret7.

  1315. Wait till they come to OUR house June 14th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Pettite is tied for the team lead with wins, isn’t he?

    He’s our number five starter. As long as we win more than we lose when he starts you can’t be too unhappy with him.

  1316. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    GGGB: “So let’s think about this. Rubber match against cross-town rivals, against a Cy Young winner Santana, AJ not pitching up to potential, offense sputtering with RISP, swept by Boston, nearly lost 2 in a row against said opponent and the manager decides to put a rookie catcher & mediocre bat rather than the GREAT JORGE POSADA. Indictment is on. Posada Truthers beware.”

    This sh*t is really getting ridiculous. Have you been watching this season at all? Girardi rests Posada every 3 days by rote. Posada’s no spring chicken anymore, and coming off major shoulder surgery and just came of the dl recently. Give me a break. We have some pitchers who are not performing as well as they should so far (it’s June) so automatically it’s Posada’s fault? Doofus Truthers beware!

  1317. Thrillington June 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Doreen,

    Great pictures! What a lovely day for you and your family.

    -Percy

  1318. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Yankee Trader – your post is filled with one-time deductions. Lowe got beat by Baltimore, an AL-East team, so automoatically he sucks. I think we have some pitchers who got pounded by Baltimore once too.

    Santana got knocked around TODAY so it’s a good thing we didn’t get him.

    It’s a long season. if you keep using that kind of logic you’d be trading or dumping guys every other day based on a single day’s performance.

  1319. Dutch Hugo June 14th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    rconn23:
    “The beautiful thing about the great catching debate is there is no debate. Posada is a borderline Hall of Fame catcher. Cervelli is a 22-year old kid fresh out of Double AA. End of debate. He’s played well in reserve duty and hopefully he can eventually become the full time backstop in a couple of years. Does Cervelli get the blame for Burnett walking the bases loaded, or just the credit for Burnett getting out of the jam? It’s on Burnett, whatever happens. And that’s all there is to it. And besides, the Yankees staff know they’re not going anywhere this year without Posada in the lineup. Posada was gone last year and in his place – “expert game caller” Jose Molina. How did that work out? No playoffs.”

    Facts can be beautiful things. Well put, rconn.

  1320. Sarah June 14th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    rconn23 and others: the Yankees didn’t make it to the play offs because they were missing Wang. Fact. Also had to use Ponson and Rasner as SP. Fact. Even the great Johnny Bench could not have got the best from those two.

    Mussina won 20 games last year NOT pitching to Posada. Fact.

    As players age their skills age too. Lose a step, slow bad speed, a little anxiety. But how does one measure the skills of an aging catcher in regard to behind the plate. We are not talking batting now because Jorge still has a good bat.

    1) Jorge made the error that ended the no errors in 18 games.
    2) Opposing runners run on him because they know he has no arm. And is recuperating from surgery.
    3) The Yankees were on a good win streak before he came back. They have lost more games since his return.
    4) It has been known through the years that some pitchers did not want to pitch to him.
    5) He is hard headed and doesn’t like the pitchers shaking him off. You watch Boston games and the pitchers will shake off Tek. He doesn’t make a big deal out it.

    This Yankee team has soooo much potential and to see the rotation falter is disheartening. If it takes using special catchers, so be it. Anything to win, right? Isn’t that the usual thread on these boards. Win at all costs.

    List all of Jorge’s credentials all you want – it is in the past. And good for him. And isn’t that another thread that runs through this board – forget the past? No one is denying Jorge’s career, but face it, or man up, he is not the Jorge of old right now. He can DH with Matsui but limit his catching. If he doesn’t like it. Tough tee.

  1321. Dutch Hugo June 15th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Sarah, you don’t help your argument when you just MAKE STUFF UP.

    you:
    “Opposing runners run on him because they know he has no arm. And is recuperating from surgery.”

    the facts:
    Posada has a .319 caught stealing rate, which, if he qualified with his games played, would place him at 6th in all of MLB. Yes, Cervelli’s is better at .375, but in a much smaller sample size.

    as for your other arguments:

    1) Jorge made the error that ended the no errors in 18 games. WHO CARES? What does this have to do with anything? Everyone makes errors. Or are you seriouisly trying to say that they would have gone the rest of the season without an error?

    3) The Yankees were on a good win streak before he came back. They have lost more games since his return.
    THIS IS MAYBE THE DUMBEST ARGUMENT OF ALL. Honestly, did you think they would play .800 baseball the rest of the season? They can’t stay as hot as they were, they are going to lose games. That’s baseball.

    4) It has been known through the years that some pitchers did not want to pitch to him. IT’S BEEN KNOWN THAT SOME PITCHERS ON EVERY TEAM PREFER WORKING WITH VARIOUS CATCHERS. SO? There are also many pitchers who pitched to him over the Yankees championship runs who not only loved pitching to him, they continue to sing his praises. If Cervelli eventually becomes our starter, there will be guys who prefer working with his backup as well. Again, that’s baseball.

    5) He is hard headed and doesn’t like the pitchers shaking him off. You watch Boston games and the pitchers will shake off Tek. He doesn’t make a big deal out it. GUESS WHO THE ABSOLUTE WORST CATCHER IN ALL OF BASEBALL AT THROWING OUT BASE STEALERS IS? YUP, YOUR BUDDY, ‘TEC. What Yankee fan calls the mincer by his Boston nickname anyway?

    As has been pointed out here before, the people who are professionals and are making these decisions know a lot more about this stuff than you, or me, or anyone else posting on some blog. But arguing with someone who just flat out makes stuff up to support their argument is pointless anyway.


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