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Game 65: Nationals at Yankees (with pre-game updates on Jeter, Nady)

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YANKEES (37-27)
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Cabrera CF
Pena SS

Pitching: RHP Chien-Ming Wang (0-4, 14.34).

NATIONALS (16-46)
Guzman SS
Johnson 1B
Zimmerman 3B
Dunn DH
Dukes RF
Patterson CF
Bard C
Harris LF
Hernandez 2B

Pitching: LHP John Lannan (3-5, 3.51).

TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES.

WHO’S YOUR DADDY: Chien-Ming Wang is 0-4 with a 14.34 ERA this season. As a starter, he has a 21.60 ERA, allowing 32 runs on 36 hits and 10 walks 13.1 innings. Wang lasted only 2.2 innings against Boston on June 10. He will be pitching tonight on six days of rest and a day after the birth of his son, Justin.

WANG LIKES THE NL: CMW has a 3.75 ERA in 11 interleague games in his career.

WANG VS. WASHINGTON: The Wanger faced the Nats once and it was a heartbreaker. He fell 3-2 on June 18, 2006 at RFK Stadium when Zimmerman hit a walk-off two-run homer. The Yankees led 2-1 going into the ninth inning.

HE’S DUE: Wang’s last win was June 15, 2008. He held Houston scoreless for five innings then suffered the foot injury that ended his season.

LOCAL BOY MAKES GOOD: Lannan is from Long Beach, N.Y., and attended Siena College after starring for Chaminade High. The 24-year-old has pitched for the Nats this season, allowing 78 hits over 77 innings. He has given up one earned run on nine hits in his last 15 innings.

ASSORTED STUFF: The Yankees have won three of four and 22 of their last 32. … They have won 15 of their last 20 at home. … They are 4-3 in interleague games. … The Yankees have come from behind to win 22 of their 37 games.

JUNE SWOON: Alex Rodriguez is 8 of 48 (.167) this month. He has three RBI in his last nine games.

MO RIGHT AT HOME: Mariano Rivera has converted 32 consecutive save chances at home. His last blown save in the Bronx came on Aug. 13, 2007.

DONTCHA KNOW: Robinson Cano is 9 of his last 16 with five runs scored, six RBI and five extra-base hits on his last four games.

COKE’S THE MAN: Phil Coke’s last six appearances: 5.2 2 0 0 2 4.

HISTORY IN THE MAKING: The Yankees did not hit a home run last night. The only other home game that happened came on May 6 against Tampa. They have hit at least one homer in the other 31 home games.

BRUISER BRUNEY: The Yankees are 10-1 in the games Brian Bruney has appeared in.

Back with much more later on.

UPDATE, 4:01 p.m.: Jeter sent for MRI. He wanted to play tonight, however.

UPDATE, 4:27 p.m.: MRI was negative.

UPDATE, 5:16 p.m.: We just spoke to Jeter, who said he wanted to play but admitted he had some difficulty running last night. He hopes to be able to play tomorrow and will be receiving treatment.

Meanwhile, the entire minicamp roster of the New York football Giants are in the house. They’re in the Legends Suite at the moment, chowing down. This is a team bonding activity organized by coach Tom Coughlin. He and Joe Girardi have become pals. Girardi, as you may recall, took a page out of Coughlin’s book when he canceled practice in spring training in favor of taking the team to a pool hall.

According to an eyewitness, the Giants “destroyed” the buffet in the Legends Suite.

Xavier Nady is headed for Tampa tomorrow and the plan is for him to play four innings in right field on Friday. He has not let a throw go yet but believes his elbow is at 85-90 percent.

UPDATE, 5:34 p.m.: This is hilarious. Brian Cashman is holding a press conference for Spanish-speaking reporters and it’s being broadcast to the press box. He is giving answers through a translator.

Apparently C-Money took some truth serum before he sat down. He has so far said:

• Damaso Marte may need surgery on his shoulder to figure out what his wrong.

• Brian Bruney “lied” to him about his elbow. “It drives me nuts,” Cashman said. Cashman said he went to Scranton to see Bruney’s rehab the first time around. “It was a waste of a two-and-half-hour drive,” he said. He compared injured players to pets because they can’t or won’t tell you what is wrong.

• Cashman said the team is better with Cabrera in center and Swisher in right. Not with Brett Gardner in the lineup.

UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: We’re underway. Suddenly it’s 63 degrees and getting colder. New baby and new haircut for Wang. New results, too? We’ll see.

UPDATE, 7:25 p.m.: Alex is now 2 for 15 on the homestand.

UPDATE, 7:36 p.m.: As far as little J.J. Wang knows, his pop is still the man. Wang has had some control issues but managed to get through two innings unscathed.

UPDATE, 7:51 p.m.: The crowd is really behind Wang, cheering with two strikes and trying to will him to a solid outing. So far, so good. He has thrown three scoreless innings, allowing one hit.

UPDATE, 8:04 p.m.: Guess Adam Dunn doesn’t take on 3-0. That ball was crushed.

UPDATE, 8:05 p.m.: The whole thing about throwing back a home run hit by the opposing team is silly and the Yankees should eject anybody who does it. It’s a matter of time before some drunk pegs an outfielder in the back of the head

Beyond that, it’s just copied from Wrigley Field. Give the ball to a kid, which is what happens anyway when they retrieve the ball.

UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: The bad news is the Yankees trail 1-0 and John Lannan looks great. The good news is that the Wanger has his longest outing of the season.

UPDATE, 8:17 p.m.: Yankees have been no-hit by John Lannan for four innings and have managed to get the ball out of the infield twice. Is that bad? Because it seems bad.

UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: Wang in some trouble here. Nats have runners on the corners and one out. Be a good time for Nick Johnson to GIDP.

Phil Hughes warming up.

UPDATE, 8:26 p.m.: Funny how it work sometimes. Harris was nearly out stealing second but the low throw got away from Ramiro Pena. Then Guzman is safe at first on a bang-bang play. That could have been the third out.

Instead Johnson triples and now the Nats leads 3-0. It would have been 2-0 except Melky made a rockhead play by diving for the ball. He does some bad things in the outfield sometimes.

UPDATE, 8:32 p.m.: Wang is likely finished for the night. His line: 5 6 3 3 2 5. Of the 15 outs he recorded, 10 were on the ground. He had control issues but he was pitching on six days of rest.

Given the improvement, I’d be surprised if they dropped him from the rotation. He gave up three runs and it easily could have been one or two. He did pretty well, all things considered.

Meanwhile, the bigger issue is mounting some offense against Sandy Koufax Lannan. He has dominated the Yankees so far.

UPDATE, 8:38 p.m.: Hughes it is.

UPDATE, 9:06 p.m.: A-Rod really heard it from the crowd after the latest weak groundout. He is 0 for 3 tonight, 2 of 17 on the homestand, 4 of 35 and 8 of 51.

Lannan is throwing a gem.

UPDATE, 9:46 p.m.: It always seems to come down to Alex, doesn’t it?

 
 

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1,291 Responses to “Game 65: Nationals at Yankees (with pre-game updates on Jeter, Nady)”

  1. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Come on Wang. Please have a good start.

  2. Erica June 17th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    CMW is DUE for a win

  3. S.A.--I still believe in CMW June 17th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Let’s go Wang!
    Clap Clap Clap Clap

  4. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Yusssse get ready.

  5. William Buckner June 17th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    What will Girardi and Cashman look at as a good start?

    I would say anything over 5 innings and under 4 er.

  6. S.A.--I still believe in CMW June 17th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Michael Kay sounds like he is gonna pop a blood vessel(he’s talking about the Wang situation). Let Wang pitch, I agree.

  7. Domino June 17th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    He needs to pitch around Dunn, Zimmerman, Johnson and Guzeman.

  8. MS June 17th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Per WFAN’s Twitter, Jeter is out of the lineup.

  9. Joltin Joe June 17th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Why do I have the feeling Lannan is going to have a good outing? Yankee hitters have had trouble with pitchers they’ve never seen!!!

  10. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 17th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
    Tom in N.J
    June 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
    There wasn’t one player who was transformative durring the Yankees run in the 90s. The organization went out and made smart free agent moves- Key, Boggs, Girardi; Good trades- O’Neil, Tino, Cone, Wetland; and, developed their own players-Bernie, Pettitte, Jeter, Mo, Posada.
    ——————————————————————————————
    One player from that era/group who had as much to do with winning attitude and how to play hard, was a player that wasn’t even a full timer….Daryl Strawberry. Tim Raines had a huge affect on the players, too.

  11. Andrew June 17th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Hopefully Wang’s velocity and movement carry over from his last start, but this time he harnesses the command and is economical so he can last 6-7. It seems like he still hasn’t fully built up his stamina, so I don’t know how lively his stuff will be when he gets up to 70 pitches, but I hope he has some quick early innings so it’s not an issue.

  12. Dave June 17th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Wang needs all the defensive help he can get tonight

    No need to rush Jeter when we have Pena playing at a high level.

  13. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    “Per WFAN’s Twitter, Jeter is out of the lineup.”

    EL Nino don’t embarass us.

  14. DB June 17th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Hopefully, Wang goes full circle tonight. June 15th 2008 his last win to June 17th, 2009.

  15. Trev Sey June 17th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Not only is Lannan a guy we haven’t seen… he has also pitched very well. He has a 3.51. Only given up more than 3 ERs in 3 of his 13 starts.

    Not going to be a picnic at all. You just have to hope Wang can keep it close and we can get to the pen.

  16. scott June 17th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    ummm why is A-Rod in the lineup? Did Joe watch how he looked yesterday and how bad he has looked lately?

    Take out the Texas 5-5 game, and A-Rod is hitting like .120.

    Tonight would be a perfect night for Berroa, who at this point, is probably a better bet to get a hit than A-Rod is.

  17. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Yeah scott lets take Have berroa and Pena in at the same time!

  18. Andrew June 17th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    scott hopefully was just joking with that amazing bit of advice.

  19. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Good luck, Wang.

  20. Bronx 77 June 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Why do we always draw the other team’s ace and Boston misses him?

    And in Florida, we get Josh Johnson. Yet Boston missed him. We faced Hamels, Boston missed him. We faced Halladay twice, Boston doesn’t face him. We face Beckett 3 times, they face CC once. We face Verlander and Edwin Jackson, Boston faced Dontrelle Willis and Garralaga.

  21. SJ44 June 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Berroa for Arod?

    Just when you think you have seen it all in a game thread, someone surprises you! LOL

  22. TIME FOR #27 June 17th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Look for cano to have a big game.

  23. rconn23 June 17th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    I love the Berroa contingent on this blog. Adorable, really, and always good for a laugh.

  24. Hokiehill June 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Joltin Joe, where were you yesterday when that myth was debunked….this season we’re 9-4 against pitchers we’ve never seen before and that stat goes even further against your statement if you go back longer (I can’t recall the numbers but the Yankees are actually pretty good against the guys we’ve never seen)

    Here’s hoping Wang has a strong outing and at least keeps this discussion going…we are not as good of a team down one starter, especially one who was expected to be strong for us this season.

  25. Hokiehill June 17th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    the thought of Berroa playing makes me miss Ransom! HA!

  26. Erica June 17th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Lets start a “We Want Berroa” chant!!!

  27. Bob(the original) June 17th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Bronx 77 June 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Why do we always draw the other team’s ace and Boston misses him?

    And in Florida, we get Josh Johnson. Yet Boston missed him. We faced Hamels, Boston missed him. We faced Halladay twice, Boston doesn’t face him. We face Beckett 3 times, they face CC once. We face Verlander and Edwin Jackson, Boston faced Dontrelle Willis and Garralaga.

    ———————————————

    They didn’t miss our ace last week.

    Stop whining about stupid stuff.

  28. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    “Look for cano to have a big game.”

    Look for Cano to go hitless in his next 10 ABs…

  29. kaseya June 17th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    my guess: CMW pitches well enough tonight to keep his job and then gets blasted the next time he faces a decent major league team, but is allowed to keep his job because he “pitched well” against the nationals.

    it’s a good thing the yankees are so focused on the development of phil hughes. keeping him on ice in the ‘pen so they can keep running wang out there is one of the more brilliant maneuvers the organization has made this year. right on par with panicking and bringing wang up from AAA when joba went down.

    here’s hoping wang pitches well so pete can keep it together tonight.

  30. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Hokiehill
    June 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
    Joltin Joe, where were you yesterday when that myth was debunked….this season we’re 9-4 against pitchers we’ve never seen before and that stat goes even further against your statement if you go back longer (I can’t recall the numbers but the Yankees are actually pretty good against the guys we’ve never seen)

    Here’s hoping Wang has a strong outing and at least keeps this discussion going…we are not as good of a team down one starter, especially one who was expected to be strong for us this season.

    ————————————————————

    Because it’s almost game time, 3 hours, and he still can’t think of anything original to whine about.

  31. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    They need to keep Wang in the rotation no matter how he pitches tonight.

    This team has botched his rehab in every way possible and it’s in their best interest to fix him and get him right.

    He is not a reliever. He doesn’t translate there. Another innings eater like Wang in this rotation makes this team that much stronger and makes the bullpen better because they don’t get exposed nearly as often.

    When Wang is pitching like vintage Wang, they can count on him giving them roughly 7.0 IP just about every time he takes the ball.

    Sabathia is the only guy in the rotation who can do that now. Imagine how much better this team would be if Wang gets back and does the same thing.

    The upside would be huge. No matter what it takes, they cannot give up on him. It’s stupid they are giving him such an ultimatum when they are largely responsible for creating this problem.

  32. CB June 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    “CMW pitches well enough tonight to keep his job and then gets blasted the next time he faces a decent major league team, but is allowed to keep his job because he “pitched well” against the nationals.”

    The Nationals have the 5th highest OPS of any team in the national league.

    So if by “decent major league team” you mean an AL team I suppose you can make that argument.

    But otherwise it doesn’t hold with the Nationals. They’re offense is fine.

    They have a historically awful pitching staff – which doesn’t particularly affect Wang.

  33. Erica June 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Stultus, I thought before you were being sarcastic, but I needed to verify. You never know the crazy things people could come up with

  34. Freak Show June 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Bronx 77 June 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Why do we always draw the other team’s ace and Boston misses him?

    And in Florida, we get Josh Johnson. Yet Boston missed him. We faced Hamels, Boston missed him. We faced Halladay twice, Boston doesn’t face him. We face Beckett 3 times, they face CC once. We face Verlander and Edwin Jackson, Boston faced Dontrelle Willis and Garralaga.

    ——————-

    agree 100%. yankees need to mention this to selig and stop the inbalanced schedule

  35. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Jeter went in for a MRI

  36. J-Boogie June 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Hokiehill- I’m cuirious to know what the Yankees batting average is against those pitchers. As for the 9-4 record, did anyone figure out the record when you factor in the opposing bullpen blowing games For example, they won yesterday but didn’t hit the SP real well and took the lead b/c of the Nats pen. So if we were to say they’re now 10-4 in those games, it would be a little misleading in terms of seeing how well they perform against new pitchers.

    Anyone know if that was that mentioned at all?

  37. CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    All jokes aside, it’s time for Arod to get a day off. It’s also time for him to move out of the 4 spot. Because of his surgery I’m afraid that, minus a hot streak here or there, we’re seeing what he’s going to be this year. A dangerous hitter with an avg around .240. That’s not going to cut it as a clean up hitter.

  38. rconn23 June 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    scott,

    Angel Berroa is a terible offensive player. Has been since his rookie year.

    A-Rod with one hand tied behind his back is a better hitter than Berroa.

  39. tony June 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    I’d rather have A-Rod batting lefty then see Berroa get AB’s.

  40. FL Mark June 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    No Wang = No division title and maybe no playoffs

    So the Yankees better be patient with Wang now and do everything in their power to get him fixed. Or else they could very well find themselves sitting at home in October when we’re sputtering in the summer with a young, inconsistent rotation with guys with innings limits and the always unpredictable AJ Burnett and struggling Andy Pettite.

    We are not making the playoffs with only 1 reliable starting pitcher.

  41. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    John Lannan is awful on the road: 1-5 with a 6.30

  42. JohnC June 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    “Why do we always draw the other team’s ace and Boston misses him?

    And in Florida, we get Josh Johnson. Yet Boston missed him. We faced Hamels, Boston missed him. We faced Halladay twice, Boston doesn’t face him. We face Beckett 3 times, they face CC once. We face Verlander and Edwin Jackson, Boston faced Dontrelle Willis and Garralaga.”

    Thats why its imperative Yanks sweep this series. They also face lefty Sean West, who has been very impressive thus far on Friday night and Chris Volstad, who was battered by the Red Sox last night on Sunday.

  43. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Doreen
    June 17th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
    Where outside the stadium?

    I agree that the netting overhead makes the Monument Park area look like a block party area or something – like a tent covering over a carnival area.

    We’re going on the stadium tour on Saturday, so, I’m anxious to see how it feels and looks from the inside, rather than from the outside looking in.

    Doreen Please (with sugar on top) ask about the Gehrig Bat Weathervane. I need concrete answers before my curiosity turns into a full blown obsession – oops too late.

  44. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Freak Show June 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Bronx 77 June 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Why do we always draw the other team’s ace and Boston misses him?

    And in Florida, we get Josh Johnson. Yet Boston missed him. We faced Hamels, Boston missed him. We faced Halladay twice, Boston doesn’t face him. We face Beckett 3 times, they face CC once. We face Verlander and Edwin Jackson, Boston faced Dontrelle Willis and Garralaga.

    ———————–

    There’s nothing you can do about it. But I’ll say this much, contrary to popular belief, maybe the Yanks should get more credit than they’ve been getting this season.

    The Yanks have faced stiffer competition against other teams’ best pitchers and still have a better record against those teams than the Sox do.

    So maybe people shouldn’t simply focus on their record against the Red Sox and downplay their record against everyone else.

  45. Ez Rep June 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Pretty funny that there seems to be an ultimatum attached to Wang’s start tonight

    Do Cash and Joe realize they need Wang performing at a high level to make the playoffs?

  46. AD June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Prediction for the Wanger tonight….
    5.2. ER. 3BB. 3K. – 85 pitches and a w.

  47. Ian June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Is there any chance Berroa is off the roster by the weekend? With 9 straight games in NL parks, I can’t see Berroa being the main righty bat off the bench. As long as Jeter is playing by then, I think we need Duncan at least up for those 9 games. I’d say or even John Rodriguez but he’s lefty.

  48. JohnC June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Charleston’s Andrew Brackman was lit up again today. 6 runs, 6 hits, 3BBs and 5Ks in 3 innings. He is really struggling this year. To be expected his first full season after TJ surgery. Guess they’re just hoping he gets through the season healthy.

  49. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    It’s true, Erica. You never know.

  50. CB June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Tonight is far from a “must win” game but it’s clearly one of the most important games of the year given the context.

    Without Wang the yankees will be extremely hard pressed to win the division. In fact, I think if Wang doesn’t return to form it might take a red sox injury for the yankees to win the division.

    How Phil Hughes pitches in Wang’s spot is secondary. There’s no way to simply lose wang in this absurdly close division and not have it hurt you at the margins.

    Wang gets taken out of the rotation and that kills the yankees pitching flexibility. And that a huge issue and one of their chief weapons in trying to compete with Boston, given their bull pen.

    A bull pen of Mo, Bruney and Hughes would likely be a very good one. Not saying they should keep Hughes in the pen – but if Wang gets removed from the rotation they don’t even have that luxury.

    If they don’t have that luxury of putting hughes in the pen then if they try to trade for a Huston Street then they’ll have even less leverage.

    Joba is on an innings limit. Having Hughes in tow to make up starts for him would be huge.

    Or if Andy gets hurt/ gets a tired shoulder, etc. they have no one to plug into his spot if Hughes is already in the rotation.

    Coming down the stretch the yankees best rotation may optimally be CC, Wang, Burnett, Joba and Hughes.

    Wang goes back to the pen now he’ll lose all of his arm strength and will be possibly done as a stater for the entire year.

    That’s a huge loss.

  51. William Buckner June 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    “No Wang = No division title and maybe no playoffs”

    Really? 1/3 of the season is over, not only have they had no Wang, they’ve had historically bad Wang and if the season ended today, they’d be in post season.

  52. CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    The Yanks don’t NEED Wang performing at a high level to make the playoffs. Would it help? Of course. But they can win the division or wild card without him.

    I’m all for giving him a couple more starts after tonight. But if he continues to get bombed they have to move on.

  53. Erica June 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Do they have options on Berroa? Can he be sent down or would he need to clear waivers?

  54. DB June 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Hokie, it’s now 10 and 4. :wink:

  55. CB June 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    “Charleston’s Andrew Brackman was lit up again today. 6 runs, 6 hits, 3BBs and 5Ks in 3 innings. ”

    You have to hope he’s not hurt. They just skipped him in the rotation last turn. Hadn’t pitched in 10 days.

    Giving him a spot on the 40 man roster was so ridiculous. Terrible roster management.

  56. tony June 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Do they have options on Berroa? Can he be sent down or would he need to clear waivers?

    who cares?

  57. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    All jokes aside, it’s time for Arod to get a day off. It’s also time for him to move out of the 4 spot. Because of his surgery I’m afraid that, minus a hot streak here or there, we’re seeing what he’s going to be this year. A dangerous hitter with an avg around .240. That’s not going to cut it as a clean up hitter.

    ———————-

    Girardi is not going to bump A-Rod. Nor should he.

    There were a lot of impatient moronic Yankee fans on this board who demanded that Girardi move Teixeira out of the #3 hole because he was “killing the team” and hitting .190 at the end of April.

    Girardi said he had no intention of moving Teixeira at that time and didn’t do it so he’s not going to move A-Rod (a guy who is hitting 40 – 50 points higher than Teixeira was at his lowest and didn’t have a ST to boot).

  58. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    “No Wang = No division title and maybe no playoffs”

    Yussse would like a word w/ you.

  59. anonymous June 17th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Cervelli should be catching for Wang. This is a big mistake on Girardi’s part.

  60. DB June 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Correcting myself, Matias kind of shut us down with his blistering 89 mph fastball and 82 mph changeup. We won it off of Mr Dukes

  61. Danny June 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Having to manage Hughes AND Joba’s innings late in the season in the heat of a pennant race is going to be a disaster.

    And if AJ goes on the DL which he seems to do in every non-contract year or Andy’s back/shoulder acts up… where do we go? Sergio Mitre, who got lit up in the NL for years? Tomko? Josh Towers? Casey Fossum?

  62. Ruben Sierra June 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Wang will throw no-hitter tonight. Because Ruben Sierra said so.

  63. CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    The goals for Brackman this year are to get through the year healthy and to pitch over 100 innings. His performance is almost meaningless. Just keep toeing the rubber, big man.

  64. 86w183 June 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    No question getting Wang back is the single most important thing for this team long term. Hopefully that starts tonight.

    If Wang pitches well don’t discount it because of the opposition. Washington is 5th in the NL in HR, 7th in AVG, and 8th in runs scored. The team is awful, but the lineup isn’t.

  65. Boogie Down Bob June 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    I love watching Ramiro Pena play short. The kid is fantastic in the field.

  66. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    “Pretty funny that there seems to be an ultimatum attached to Wang’s start tonight”

    Goldman at Pinstriped Bible made a good point. This ultimatum will probably be following Wang around for the rest of the season if he’s not consistent. Say he does well tonight but get’s torched the next time out? Then we’ll have another Wang-must-pitch-well game.

    The only thing we’ll know at the end of the night is if Wang is heading to the bullpen or down to AAA with some mystery ailment, maybe some sort of male postpartum syndrome…

  67. Cash is King June 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    I’m not surprised that Jeter is getting an MRI.

  68. DB June 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Cervelli should be catching for Wang. This is a big mistake on Girardi’s part.

    Never fails…..get a clue anonymous

  69. SandMan June 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    “Without Wang the yankees will be extremely hard pressed to win the division. In fact, I think if Wang doesn’t return to form it might take a red sox injury for the yankees to win the division.”

    Agree 100% CB. People don’t seem to realize how good a healthy Wang is and how important he is to our success.

  70. CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Giuseppe Franco,

    Don’t lump me in with some of the crazies on this board. I’m not impatient and I dont micromanage the lineup on a daily basis.

    But you’re looking at Arod like this is a normal year, and its not. He wont be close to the Arod we remember until next season (hopefully). I’m fine with giving him another 2 – 4 weeks. After that, if he’s still hitting .230, it’s time to drop him in the order.

  71. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    The Yanks don’t NEED Wang performing at a high level to make the playoffs. Would it help? Of course. But they can win the division or wild card without him.

    I’m all for giving him a couple more starts after tonight. But if he continues to get bombed they have to move on.

    ———————

    That’s stupid. No matter what it takes, they have to get him right.

    A great starting pitcher is unquestionably the most valuable commodity in the game.

    You don’t take assets like that and throw them in the trash – especially when they are largely responsible for creating this problem.

    They admitted they screwed up when they told Wang over the offseason not to do his normal lower body exercises and they botched his rehab when they activated before he was ready because they panicked when Joba was hit by that liner.

    Fixing Wang is the only solution.

  72. Zodiac June 17th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Stultus,

    Sadly, I agree. Wang seems to be evaluated on a game by game basis. He’s going to have to put together a string of good starts for the ultimatum tag to be lifted.

  73. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Wang complete game, which is 2 innings for him, 9 ER.

  74. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    “I love watching Ramiro Pena play short. The kid is fantastic in the field.”

    If GB o SJ were here they contrast this. But I agree.

  75. CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Again, stop overreacting. With or without Wang, the Yanks have plenty to make the playoffs.

  76. William Buckner June 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    “Agree 100% CB. People don’t seem to realize how good a healthy Wang is and how important he is to our success.”

    Aren’t these two separate statements?

    If someone doesn’t get how Wang at 2006 or 2007 levels of performance would help this team be better, they are a moron.

    But they haven’t had that level of production through this entire season. In fact when he has pitched, he’s been worse then any other MLB pitcher. And they would be the WC team today.

  77. CB June 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    “The goals for Brackman this year are to get through the year healthy and to pitch over 100 innings. His performance is almost meaningless. Just keep toeing the rubber, big man.”

    Then why did the yankees skip him last time through the rotation? It doesn’t appear he’s hurt.

    I completely agree the primary focus for Brackman this year was for him to throw his innings.

    That said, the result of those innings are important. Look, some guys have TJ and never ever get their command back (see sean henn…).

    What was great to see with melancon last year was that you could tell he’d be fine.

    We can’t tell that with Brackman at all. It’s a big plus that his velcity is back.

    But it’s not a positive with what’s going on with him and clearly the team itself is concerned or they wouldn’t likely skip him from the rotatin.

    The concern isn’t that Brackman’s been bad and the results arent’ there. It’s how he’s been bad. There’s bad and the focus is to get your innings. But Brackman has been bad in ways that are concerning.

  78. DB June 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    I don’t think ARod will hit .230 in a month from now, bad hip and all. He’s too proud a player and too hard a worker.

  79. Wave Your Hat June 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    “Without Wang the yankees will be extremely hard pressed to win the division. In fact, I think if Wang doesn’t return to form it might take a red sox injury for the yankees to win the division.”

    That may be true, but its not up to the Yankees, its up to Wang.

    If Wang can’t pitch effectively, he can’t continue to start. If he can’t pitch effectively, then the Yanks have already effectively lost him, whether they continue to start him or not.

    Losing an effective Wang would be a blow, but since the season is a marathon you can’t say it is crippling. The other guys lose players over the course of a season too. Having Hughes to pick up the slack in that event is then a huge plus.

  80. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Doreen- You are going on the tour? I am too!! 12:40

  81. Boogie Down Bob June 17th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    I’ll be happy with 5-6 solid innings from CMW tonight. I believe in him.

    This is still a process, and it would be great to start to build momentum and confidence with a quality start tonight.

  82. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Some people are really underestimating the strength of the AL East. Tampa has been red hot lately and they are not even at full strength.

    You think we are making the playoffs if we have only one good starter? CC can’t do it alone.

    Wang is very important to the team. The Yankees ought to realize this and do everything to get him righted.

  83. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Giuseppe Franco,

    Don’t lump me in with some of the crazies on this board. I’m not impatient and I dont micromanage the lineup on a daily basis.

    But you’re looking at Arod like this is a normal year, and its not. He wont be close to the Arod we remember until next season (hopefully). I’m fine with giving him another 2 – 4 weeks. After that, if he’s still hitting .230, it’s time to drop him in the order.

    ———————

    How do you know A-Rod won’t be close to the same player this season?

    You don’t. Its as simple as that.

    The guy never had a Spring Training and hes still recovering from his hip surgery. He’s starting to run on the basepaths more often now and showing better range at 3rd, so he’s obviously feeling better and more comfortable.

    A-Rod is still A-Rod. He’ll snap out of it if people keep their pants on.

  84. CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Giuseppe Franco
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
    CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    The Yanks don’t NEED Wang performing at a high level to make the playoffs. Would it help? Of course. But they can win the division or wild card without him.

    I’m all for giving him a couple more starts after tonight. But if he continues to get bombed they have to move on.
    ——————————-

    That’s stupid. No matter what it takes, they have to get him right.

    A great starting pitcher is unquestionably the most valuable commodity in the game.

    You don’t take assets like that and throw them in the trash – especially when they are largely responsible for creating this problem.

    They admitted they screwed up when they told Wang over the offseason not to do his normal lower body exercises and they botched his rehab when they activated before he was ready because they panicked when Joba was hit by that liner.

    Fixing Wang is the only solution.

    ____________________________

    No, it’s not stupid. No matter how great he was in the past, or how great he may be again in the future, you cant keep throwing a pitcher who gives up 6 runs in 4 or less innings. Tonight should not be an all or nothing type deal. He deserves more chances to right the ship. But you cant let him get bombed in his next 20 starts. Sooner or later he has to get better.

  85. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    CB
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
    “Charleston’s Andrew Brackman was lit up again today. 6 runs, 6 hits, 3BBs and 5Ks in 3 innings. ”

    You have to hope he’s not hurt. They just skipped him in the rotation last turn. Hadn’t pitched in 10 days.

    Giving him a spot on the 40 man roster was so ridiculous. Terrible roster management.

    ————————————————————

    Nah….he’s not hurt. It looked like he was going through that dead arm phase. He had his 35 innings over the winter in Hawaii and these 65 innings, after not pitching for almost two years…not counting his spring training. I saw him a couple of starts ago, and he’s still throwing in the upper 90s. What’s been killing him is defense. his team mates and his. He has 5 or 6 errors on throws so far and a ton of WPs. 18 WP and 7 hit batters. Control is the issue. almost 6 walks and 9 strikeouts per 9 innings.

  86. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    “I completely agree the primary focus for Brackman this year was for him to throw his innings.”

    Prbly mechanics CB, if there was something serious I doubt they’d put him to toe the rubber.

  87. sab June 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Why do we always draw the other team’s ace and Boston misses him?

    And in Florida, we get Josh Johnson. Yet Boston missed him. We faced Hamels, Boston missed him. We faced Halladay twice, Boston doesn’t face him. We face Beckett 3 times, they face CC once. We face Verlander and Edwin Jackson, Boston faced Dontrelle Willis and Garralaga.
    =========================================================

    I’ve been mentioning this for about the last month now..
    this weekend they do face Derek Lowe and Jair Jurrgens of the braves and I guess they are the braves 2 best pitchers (i know not saying much)…

    you can also add to that why do the redsox face the braves twice this year (home and away)and not the phillies – they are after all more of a rivalry due to the proximity of the 2 cities – (the yankees have to face their “rivals” the mets twice) and don’t give me the boston braves connection nonsense – that happened like 200 years ago…

    was it just me or did everyone on the nationals look really really sad last night..i almost felt sorry for them…

  88. Erica June 17th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Now that everyone is here, I am going to repost my Subway Series idea. I was talking to a friend in Texas and when those two teams play each other they call it the Lone Star Series and there is an actual trophy named the Silver Boot trophy presented. I think this is genius. And since this blog is all powerful, I am proposing the following here:

    The Subway Series should be played between the Yankees and Mets. The winner of the 6 games gets The Mayors Cup, which will be a trophy with a subway on it. If there is a tie after 6 games, the winner is determined by run differential. What does everyone think?

  89. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    jennifer
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    Doreen- You are going on the tour? I am too!! 12:40

    Jennifer can you also ask about the Bat/Weathervane? Please.

  90. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    I love the “anonymous” and “guest” handles.

    It cracks me up.

  91. CB June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    “In fact when he has pitched, he’s been worse then any other MLB pitcher. And they would be the WC team today.”

    Season doesn’t end today. It’s not that close to ending. And as the season moves on what becomes more and more valuable is depth in pitching. Boston’s pen and their depth in the rotation give them an important edge – an edge the yanks can’t match without wang.

    So sure if the season were to end today Wang would be largely irrelevant.

    But they haven’t dealt with Joba hitting his innings limit, Pettite getting his inevitable tired shoulder, or any major new injuries to the staff.

    And they haven’t dealt with needing to remove Hughes and/ or Aceves from the pen and into the rotation should the need arise. Where would the pen be without Aceves right now? No Ian kennedy so Aceves gets bumped up on the rotation depth chart while at the same time manning a key spot in the pen.

    That they’d make the playoffs today is secondary and doesn’t factor in all of the ways a pitching staff suffers over the course of a long season.

  92. Andrew June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    “The concern isn’t that Brackman’s been bad and the results arent’ there. It’s how he’s been bad. There’s bad and the focus is to get your innings. But Brackman has been bad in ways that are concerning.”

    What are the ways in which he’s been bad that are concerning? The walks? I thought command was the last thing to come back for guys post-TJ. Isn’t Brackman’s pure talent + stuff of a much higher ceiling than Sean Henn ever was? Yeah it was definitely a terrible idea to give Brackman a 40-man roster spot and a guaranteed ML deal, but is it time to hit the panic button so soon? Perhaps they wanted him to focus on throwing bullpens or mechanics or something before they gave him another start, and also want to control his innings without shutting him down later in the season?

  93. Advocate June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Wang is the key to our season and can turn our rotation from good to great. However, he isin’t the only one we need.

    Burnett has been a major disappointment and is getting paid $82 million dollars. He was signed to be a #2 behind CC. A power arm who could dominate in the middle of the rotation. He wasn’t brought here to be an inconsistent #5 starter who flops in big games. He has to pick it up in a big way.

    Andy has picked up where he left off in the 2nd half of last year. He isin’t even giving us innings. He has 1 quality start in his last 8 games.

    These 2 guys, along with Wang have to pick it up. Hughes/Joba are young kids that will go through their ups and downs. There is nothing we can do about it.

    The spotlight should be on Burnett. He is the one who isin’t getting it done. Neither is Andy.

  94. CountryClub June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Giuseppe Franco,

    We seem to be mostly on the same page with Wang and Arod. I have no problem with giving both of them time to figure it out.

    But where we differ is that I don’t want to see a season long pass. They have to get right sooner or later. If not, Wang moves out of the rotation and Arod gets moved down.

    But we can agree to disagree.

  95. DB June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    sab, pity is a sign of weakness…get it out of your system. Yanks need to pummel.

  96. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Jeters MRI is clean.

  97. pat June 17th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    The doctor said when Alex came back that he was going to be at 80%.

    If my math is correct and accounting for the missing games, that’s about a .240 hitter, with 25 HRs and 75 RBIs.

    Yankees must have been okay with that rather than running Ransom, Pena or Berroa out there everyday or else they would have told him to go for the season ending surgery.

  98. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    This is the numbers by game in the last 10 of Brackman’s 13 starts.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=457581

  99. CB June 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    “If Wang can’t pitch effectively, he can’t continue to start. If he can’t pitch effectively, then the Yanks have already effectively lost him, whether they continue to start him or not.”

    Depends on what you think the future expected returns would be and how those would balance with sending him to the bull pen now.

    Whether or not they’ve effectively lost him depends on how he’s managed. Those two things are correlated.

  100. KWAN June 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    “Burnett has been a major disappointment and is getting paid $82 million dollars. He was signed to be a #2 behind CC. A power arm who could dominate in the middle of the rotation. He wasn’t brought here to be an inconsistent #5 starter who flops in big games. He has to pick it up in a big way.”

    When has Burnett ever shown the ability to “dominate”? People need to stop judging him on his stuff and look at his performances. He is a mediocre, inconsistent, underachiever. Why should that change here?

    The problem is that Cashman and a lot of the fans thought he would turn into Curt Schilling when he came here and suddenly blossom on a big stage. The expectations were unrealistic from the start. He is NOT the pitcher who dominated us.

  101. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    JohnC
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
    Charleston’s Andrew Brackman was lit up again today. 6 runs, 6 hits, 3BBs and 5Ks in 3 innings. He is really struggling this year. To be expected his first full season after TJ surgery. Guess they’re just hoping he gets through the season healthy.
    =====

    I believe he hadn’t pitched in 10 days. Why that would be, I know not.

  102. sab June 17th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    DB – can i pity them AFTER the yankees pummel them the next 2 games (hopefully)…?

  103. William Buckner June 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    “That they’d make the playoffs today is secondary and doesn’t factor in all of the ways a pitching staff suffers over the course of a long season.”

    All of which is true, however, they cannot make Wang return to form. If he doesn’t you ‘deal with the devil you know.’

    Meaning if you need starting pitching, then in July you look at the market. Same with pen.

    The season isn’t over today, but I think the best way to predict future performance is the most recent play.

    1/3 of a season isn’t exactly a small sample size.

  104. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    bodhisattva – OPPC member – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
    JohnC
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
    Charleston’s Andrew Brackman was lit up again today. 6 runs, 6 hits, 3BBs and 5Ks in 3 innings. He is really struggling this year. To be expected his first full season after TJ surgery. Guess they’re just hoping he gets through the season healthy.
    =

    I believe he hadn’t pitched in 10 days. Why that would be, I know not.

    ————————————————————

    They want him to pitch the complete season, but, still control his innings. Since the winter, not including his spring training innings, he has 100 innings. No pitching for almost two years and only 160 innings total in college.

  105. Seth June 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    “Season doesn’t end today. It’s not that close to ending. And as the season moves on what becomes more and more valuable is depth in pitching. Boston’s pen and their depth in the rotation give them an important edge – an edge the yanks can’t match without wang.”

    Agree. Season doesn’t end today. If the season ended today in 05, Baltimore would have won the division. Mets would have had homefield advantage in the NL the last 2 years. Dodgers/Phillies/Chi Sox would have missed the playoffs last year.

    Measuring standings 1\3rd the way through the season is fruitless.

  106. Yankee48 June 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Everyone say a prayer for Wang… because if he looses tonight, that’s gonna be a VERY embarrasing loss.

    PS, I’m very happy to hear about Jete. It’s not the same without Captain Clutch on the field and in the lineup.

  107. CB June 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    “What are the ways in which he’s been bad that are concerning? The walks? I thought command was the last thing to come back for guys post-TJ.”

    His complete lack of command. Yes it’s often said that command is the last thing to return but sometimes it never returns.

    Whether it will and how quickly is still an open question with Brackman. The walks and wild pitches aren’t positives. And when a guy throws that hard – if sally league hitters are hitting him that means he’s making mistake after mistake with his location in the zone.

    Look I’m not saying Brackman is a “bust” in any way. I’m just saying that this is more concerning than simply saying look the results don’t matter because he just needs his innings.

    Most guys coming back from TJ aren’t close to this wild. Now most guys are 6’10 so who knows. But things aren’t going particularly well for Brackman.

  108. DB June 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Didn’t AJ just pitch 7 shut out innings against the Mets? At least wait till a week where he pitched like crap before saying the guy is a shell of a pitcher. It’s June 17th. Even last year he didn’t start heating up until the summer.

  109. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Brackman has been bouncing from being absolutely dominent to totally lost in the next two or three starts. He gets out of wack mechanically fairly easily.

  110. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    “Everyone say a prayer for Wang… because if he looses tonight, that’s gonna be a VERY embarrasing loss.”

    Losing to the Nationals is not embarrassing, it happens. Embarrassing is dropping a pop-up as the other team scores the winning runs.

    I don’t care about how a loss might “look” tonight, I just want Wang to pitch well again. If we lose, that stinks, but if we lose 3-2, I won’t be upset. I’ll be more happy for Wang and what it means for the Yanks than upset.

  111. DB June 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Everyone thought Johan was the second coming and the absolute best pitcher in baseball until a week ago. He’s barely throwing 90 now. 162 game season is not short.

    I’ve said it before, I’m glad they waited on CC. He is a year younger and built like a moose. Johan is Pedro II. He is going to break down.

  112. Wave Your Hat June 17th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    “Whether or not they’ve effectively lost him depends on how he’s managed. Those two things are correlated.”

    His ability to start in the near future is not determined by how he’s managed. It’s determined by how he pitches.

    If he pitches well enough to give us a good chance to win, then yes you can argue he should start in order to give us opportunities down the road. I’m not sure I agree if someone else (like Hughes) would give us a better chance to win, but I certainly understand the argument.

    But if he doesn’t pitch well enough to give us a good chance to win, then situation “A” – losses now caused by his starting – hurt us just as badly as situation “B” – losses later in the season which may result from not having enough starters, Wang turning out to be effective but Wang not being available as a starter because Girardi did not continue to start him.

    IMO, situation “B” is much more speculative and less likely to happen than situation “A”.

    So no, I don’t think its just a management issue.

  113. S.A.--I still believe in CMW June 17th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Rain Rain stay away

  114. Wave Your Hat June 17th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    People need to put Brackman out of their minds. Way too much hope is being invested in his future, IMO. He has hardly pitched in his career and is a long way from the major leagues.

    Think of him the way you would any single A pitcher with some talent and you will be a lot less frustrated.

  115. Balboni's Revenge June 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    For what it’s worth (probably not much), I think tonight is going to be Wang’s last outing of 2009.

    I hope I’m wrong to some extent, because he is a critical piece to the puzzle this year.

  116. Four hour June 17th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Did you see the Mets lineup? Wright, Beltran and a bunch of bench players.

    What Burnett did against Texas was much more impressive than shutting down the AAA Mets lineup.

  117. vin June 17th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    “Rain Rain stay away”

    Does it ever NOT rain in NY anymore?! I left there when I was 14, and I don’t remember it being this bad.

  118. vin June 17th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    “Think of him the way you would any single A pitcher with some talent and you will be a lot less frustrated.”

    I think what irks all of us is that he’s wasting a 40-man roster spot.

  119. Kevin in the 908 June 17th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Trust me right now it is bad with all this rain…tomorrow’s game is in jeopardy with the impending forecast.

  120. DB June 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    GB7, reminiscent of a young Big Unit?

  121. sab June 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    if wang totally surrenders the yogurt tonight and is ixnayed as a starter – any interest in Ben Sheets in a month or so…?

    also if both joba and hughes are on innings limits – and hughes is sent down to SWB to “remain a starter” doesn’t his minor league innings count?.. so if he reaches his innings in SWB in August he still won’t be able to come up and take over JObs’a spot in the order since he would have also reached his limit..

    ergo…wouldn’t the yankees STILL need another starter (thats assuming wang returns to normal, hughes gets sent down and joba reached his limit in august – if wang doesn’t get right – they are screwed)

  122. bru June 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    if wang gets lit up tonight girardi will yank him from the rotation.
    that is why i hope he pitches well because i think he will get stashed away in the pen & forgotten.

  123. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    So kasey is rooting against Wang because of a grudge with Pete and Brandon is rooting against Wang because he wants the rotation spot for guys in A and AA ball — anyone else have issues they want to get out in the open?

    :roll:

  124. Mike June 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Today’s game will get played… will be raining lightly but it will get in.

    Tomorrow’s looks like it has no chance. 70% rain all day.

  125. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth

    what do you want to know? Sorry didn’t read through thread, at work. SHHH

  126. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    The odds are, Brackman will never pitch in the majors. You can be optimistic but keep that in mind.

    Some people think Brackman could be a fast mover through the minors, I just don’t see that. He’s 23 right now, I don’t see him hitting AAA (let alone the majors) until his age 26 season. Not only is he coming off a serious injury, he’s a very raw pitcher.

  127. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    “For what it’s worth (probably not much), I think tonight is going to be Wang’s last outing of 2009. ”

    Well *it* is worth nothing. I don’t know who you are and I don’t know what this silly opinion is based on. Wang is healthy, why would this possibly be his last outing of 2009? It makes no sense.

  128. Corey June 17th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Only 90K showed up at the Lakers parade?

    The Giants SB parade had like 2 million didn’t it?

  129. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Yankee48 June 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Everyone say a prayer for Wang… because if he looses tonight, that’s gonna be a VERY embarrasing loss.

    ———————–

    This is such a stupid premise.

    As bad as the Nationals are this season, they are still going to find a way to win 50 games – which means they will win games against the Phillies, Mets, and Dodgers of the world at some point.

    This isn’t college football where a team like Florida or USC has no business losing to a team like Western Michigan or Toledo or even the NFL when a team like the Steelers last season would have been embarrassed to lose to the Detroit Lions.

    Baseball isn’t like that. Even the worst teams in history are going to win 50 games and are capable of beating any team on any night.

  130. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    “anyone else have issues they want to get out in the open?”

    I’m rooting against Wang because he named his son J.J. and I hate that name.

  131. vin June 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    “Well it is worth nothing. I don’t know who you are and I don’t know what this silly opinion is based on. Wang is healthy, why would this possibly be his last outing of 2009? It makes no sense.”

    So in the event he is correct, he can come back and proclaim how he called it all the way back on June 17. The internet leads to way too many empty and baseless proclamations.

  132. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    So is Jeter just day to day?

  133. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    So is Jeter just day to day?

  134. Corey June 17th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Cashman loves Wang, I don’t know why people are worried about him losing his rotation spot

    Cashman has been nothing but 100% supportive of Wang during his tough time and helped him out every step through the rehab process. They did not rush him back to action, they were very cautious with him.

    Wang isin’t going anywhere regardless of what he does tonight. Cashman loves him and will not do that to him.

  135. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    DB
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
    GB7, reminiscent of a young Big Unit?

    ————————————————————

    No, not at all. It’s hard to compare him to another pitcher other than a 19 year old Nolan Ryan…a couple of ticks slower, great arm and no clue of where it’s going. Actually, a lot like Daniel Cabrera.

  136. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    sab June 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    if wang totally surrenders the yogurt tonight and is ixnayed as a starter – any interest in Ben Sheets in a month or so…?

    also if both joba and hughes are on innings limits – and hughes is sent down to SWB to “remain a starter” doesn’t his minor league innings count?.. so if he reaches his innings in SWB in August he still won’t be able to come up and take over JObs’a spot in the order since he would have also reached his limit..

    ————————–

    It’s doubtful that Joba will hit his innings cap in August.

    Even if the guy averages 5 starts a month and 6 IP per start – he still won’t hit 130 IP season until early September.

  137. Ovaltine June 17th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Go! Wang!

  138. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    I’m a little bit surprised that George Kontos isn’t getting more hype around here. He just turned 24 and is doing quite well in AA and AAA this year. Also turned in a decent season at AA last year. He doesn’t walk many guys, but he can definitely rack up the strikeouts. From what I understand he can throw in the low to mid 90′s with nice sink and he also has a sharp slider. (correct me if I’m wrong)

    I think this guy could definitely help the Yankees this year, as a reliever or a starter.

  139. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    “Cashman has been nothing but 100% supportive of Wang during his tough time.”

    Very true, and as we know Cashman even offered these kind words when Wang was rotting in the bullpen:

    “Wang’s contract says ‘baseball player’ not ‘starting pitcher’”

    I almost shouted “get a room” when I heard that.

  140. Showboat June 17th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    I have no confidence in any pitcher other than CC.

    In all other games… hoping for a win, expecting a loss.

  141. DB June 17th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Mike
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
    Today’s game will get played… will be raining lightly but it will get in.

    Tomorrow’s looks like it has no chance. 70% rain all day.

    Wouldn’t that mean there is a 30% they get the game in?

    Just sayin.

  142. Clark June 17th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    And let’s not forget this great quote by Cashman:

    After Wang flamed out again in Boston on Wednesday, Cashman, Joe Girardi and pitching coach Dave Eiland met to decide Wang’s future. They chose to give him one more chance at starting before demoting him and returning Phil Hughes to the rotation. Hughes pitched a scoreless ninth inning yesterday.

    “Clearly, our bullpen and our team can’t continue to deal with this issue,” Cashman said, “especially when we have someone who can do the job better.”

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....7049.story

  143. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Good thing they don’t have Joba on some sort of season pitch count limit. As long as he keeps going 4 or 5 innings in his starts, he’ll never reach his innings limit.

  144. 86w183 June 17th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Patrick —- Kontos is okay, but not considered a “high ceiling” guy. He’s only made eight starts in Scranton and he’s done a solid job (3-3, 3.00 48 IP, 38 K, 19 W) but nothing spectacular.

  145. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Showboat
    June 17th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
    I have no confidence in any pitcher other than CC.

    In all other games… hoping for a win, expecting a loss.

    ————————————————————

    Much like reading some of these posts. Hoping for something of interest to read, but, expecting to read crap.

  146. X-Mann June 17th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    “Cashman has been nothing but 100% supportive of Wang during his tough time.”

    Very true, and as we know Cashman even offered these kind words when Wang was rotting in the bullpen:

    “Wang’s contract says ‘baseball player’ not ‘starting pitcher’”

    I almost shouted “get a room” when I heard that.

    ————————-

    LOL

  147. Yankee48 June 17th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Yankee48 June 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Everyone say a prayer for Wang… because if he looses tonight, that’s gonna be a VERY embarrasing loss.
    ———————————-

    This is such a stupid premise.

    As bad as the Nationals are this season, they are still going to find a way to win 50 games – which means they will win games against the Phillies, Mets, and Dodgers of the world at some point.

    This isn’t college football where a team like Florida or USC has no business losing to a team like Western Michigan or Toledo or even the NFL when a team like the Steelers last season would have been embarrassed to lose to the Detroit Lions.

    Baseball isn’t like that. Even the worst teams in history are going to win 50 games and are capable of beating any team on any night.
    ——————————————–
    Embarrasing based on the fact that we’ll end up benching or bullpenning one of our prized aces because we can’t seem to figure out what his problem is. Also embarrasing because all predictions have said the sweep is in order. Even if the bullpen gives up the winning runs for the Nats, I thought of it more along the lines of Wang not performing. I could have worded it better. My bad.

  148. DB June 17th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Figured with the size of Brackman and his juice he’d compare…but, to be honest I’ve never seen the guy pitch. Very interested to see if he can make it though.

  149. vin June 17th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    “He has not let a throw go yet but believes his elbow is at 85-90 percent.”

    Let’s hope his belief is close to reality. Can’t wait to get Nady back.

  150. RS June 17th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    I’m a little bit worried because Wang is pitching on long rest, and he tends to have problems with his sinker when that happens.

    I do like that the Yankees put him behind CC in the rotation. That leaves the bullpen well rested for his start.

    Also, I agree that the Yankees should do everything they can to keep Wang in the rotation. Even though he has struggled in his last 2 starts, the team is 1-1 and the game they lost was by 1-run in Fenway Park. As long as the team has a chance to win in his starts (and clearly they have) then I think you need to let him stay in the rotation and hope that he eventually figures things out.

  151. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    86w,

    I know Kontos isn’t a high ceiling guy but he’s close the majors and still pretty young. To be quite honest I’d say his ceiling is about as high as Kennedy or Aceves. He could really help the team this year.

  152. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    jennifer
    June 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
    Uncle Ellsworth

    what do you want to know? Sorry didn’t read through thread, at work. SHHH

    Ask if it still a top the flagpole in the old stadium and if they have any plans to move it to the new Stadium
    http://moregehrig.tripod.com/id66.html
    thanks

  153. RS June 17th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    “Good thing they don’t have Joba on some sort of season pitch count limit. As long as he keeps going 4 or 5 innings in his starts, he’ll never reach his innings limit.”

    Lol.

  154. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 17th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Erica, just saw your post from earlier today. Years ago before interleague play, the Mets and Yankees would play an exhibition game on a common off day during the season and it was “The Mayor’s Trophy Game”.

  155. CB June 17th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    By the way, does it really matter how Wang pitches tonight?

    We definitively know that if he’s terrible it will have nothing to do with him.

    Posada is catching after all.

  156. Seth June 17th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Kontos is the perfect guy to move to the pen

    He has a killer slider and fluctuating FB velocity from start to start. If you let him air it out in a short stint, along with that slider… he could be a nice weapon to have.

    Doesn’t have a high ceiling as a starter, but could be a very good BP arm.

  157. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Patrick: good point. Hopefully the Chinese name is better.

  158. bru June 17th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    mcallister is the pitcher that people are raving about.

    lets go wanger

  159. CB June 17th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    If the yankees make a mid-season trade Kontos will likely be a central piece. Probably the #2 player.

    He’s come along very well. I give him a lot of credit. Coming out of North Western he wasn’t all that highly thought of – a guy who seemed to have a better arm than the results he produced. Also not very good command.

    But he’s worked at it and gotten better each year. In a minor league system stocked with pitching he could have easily gotten lost. Instead, he kept getting better.

    The bull pen is still in flux at the major league level. If it continues to be a problem I’m interested in them seeing if they could use Kontos out of the pen. If his stuff would play up a tick in short spurts he might make a nice reliever.

    Conversely, if Wang doesn’t throw well and is taken out of the rotation, Kontos likely is the 6th or 7th starter on the depth chart.

    Good chance he sees time in the majors this year.

  160. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Good to see the Giants are in the house. Maybe they’ll bring another Super Bowl win this year. Thats good that Jeter’s test came out negative, but having Ramiro Pena in the line up isn’t a blow either.

  161. Trailor June 17th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Joba is such a frustrating pitcher to watch. The Mets lineup had a bunch of reserves in it like Cora, Tatis, Brian Scheider etc. and he couldn’t throw strikes.

    I’d probably say Hughes is our 2nd most watchable pitcher.

    Burnett is awful to watch. Joba is tedious to watch. Andy is like watching batting practice.

    Why don’t we have more pitchers who can get quick outs and have easy innings?

  162. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    It’s taken me about 20 minutes to get on this site. Sheesh! :)

    Uncle Ellsworth – I saw your post earlier – I made a note and I will ask. I think Jennifer will have first crack – but now you’ve got me curious, too.

    Jennifer, our tour is 1:20, I think. We’re going to go to the Hard Rock Cafe with my parents (who are coming with us) to celebrate their anniversary.

    Have fun.

    I’m suppose to leave for a meeting at 6 pm which lasts until 9. I don’t want to go. I’ve had a lousy last half hour and I may not go. I have 20 minutes to decide. It’s not a pleasant meeting, add.

    Good luck CMW.

    The first 20 posts or so of this thread are like Groundhog Day. Same old, same old.

    I wouldn’t think CMW could go 7, but I’m sure the Yankees would be thrilled, as would I, if he could get them into the 6th, if not a full 6.

  163. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Its the park man

  164. Sevendust June 17th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    • Damaso Marte may need surgery on his shoulder to figure out what his wrong.

    • Brian Bruney “lied” to him about his elbow. “It drives me nuts,” Cashman said. Cashman said he went to Scranton to see Bruney’s rehab the first time around. “It was a waste of a two-and-half-hour drive,” he said. He compared injured players to pets because they can’t or won’t tell you what is wrong.

    • Cashman said the team is better with Cabrera in center and Swisher in right. Not with Brett Gardner in the lineup.

    LOL go Cashmoney!

  165. RenataD June 17th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Why do people call them The New York Football Giants?

    (Sorry if this is a stupid question) I’m just always have wondered. I know there was a baseball team in NY that were also the New York Giants, but that was a long time ago.

  166. Nat June 17th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    I’ve really warmed up to Cashman and his no non-sense, straight shooter attitude.

    Doesn’t sugarcoat anything, tells it like it is. You have to appreciate that in a GM, he doesn’t coodle the players.

  167. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Renata, people say that as a joke. “Football Giants” and “Baseball Giants” hasn’t been necessary since 1958, but people – especially Chris Berman of ESPN – just like to say it.
    I like to say it to and have done so on this site.

  168. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    I totally agree with Brian about Bruney – I’d be pissed off too. Sure, athletes are competitive, but they should think first about the team when they out-right lie about stuff like this. If Bruney needed surgery because he lied, a lot of good that would have done the Yankees.

    I don’t understand how Marte might need surgery – why see Dr. Andrews then? Dr. Andrews recommended the same course of action (rehab) that the Yankees doctor recommended….

  169. igotid88 June 17th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    A-Rod pretend you’re hitting against the Yankees.

  170. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Having issues with this site for some reason. Took me 10 minutes to open this page. Weird.

    I wanna see Jacobs stand next to CC. :lol:

    So, Cashman sure is chatty.

  171. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    It’s The New Jersey Football Giants.

    (not really but we have nothin’ ’round here but Bruce)

  172. vin June 17th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Wow, the new, candid, Brian Cashman? No more speaking in circles for 20 minutes at a time? Perhaps the translator is having some fun.

  173. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    I love Cash’s comment about players and pets. :lol:

  174. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    I’m not a fan of bringing up Kontos, Dunn or any more kids, to be honest. Seriously – there is no way they can be relied on at all to lead this team to the playoffs.

  175. D-Train June 17th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    “Coke has been pitching well, Aceves has done an outstanding job, Robertson’s been nothing short of fantastic, and Hughes has made a nice adjustment to the bullpen for a period of time,” General Manager Brian Cashman said Monday.

    Glad to see him giving Cokey, Aceves, and Robertson props

  176. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    RenataD,

    The NY Football Giants were used as a moniker from the 40′s and 50′s to describe the NFL Giants as opposed to MLB’s National League New York Giants, who eventually moved to San Fransisco in the late 50′s. But now because people like Chris Berman say it (and he says G-men all the time) its picked up. So thats why you hear people saying Football Giants. I just say “NY Giants”, it hasn’t confused anyone so far. :)

  177. Sarah June 17th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Good luck to Wang tonite. I’m glad that someone posted that Cashman likes Wang and won’t feed him to the wolves. I hope that Wang knows that and it will help him as he progresses back to the pitcher that we know and admire. Go Wang!!!

  178. Coolerking101 June 17th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    I’d love to hear what the story is with Christian Garcia. The guy was destroying AA when he got hurt AGAIN and was supposed to see Dr. Andrews on Monday. No word on what the diagnosis was.

    Gardner is a fantastic bench player, 4th outfielder (and nothing more). The problem is, 3/4 yankee outfielders are platoon players (Melky, Swisher, Gardner). One of them has got to go. As of now, Melky would probably have the most value. I’d sell high on him before he crashes down to .275. Nady, A-Jax or Shelly Duncan should be able to fill in admirably.

  179. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    This site really slow for anybody else?

  180. Mike June 17th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Forget about Marte this year

    And as SJ said this morning… Bruney’s elbow is hanging on by a thread and could need TJS at any time.

    Cashman has to go out and get reinforcements.

  181. RhapsodyInBlue June 17th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    A little sodium pentathol goes a long way.

  182. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Tom: you also have Yo La Tengo and the Hoboken Clam Broth House. I think; it’s been a while.

  183. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    James Andrews just said yesterday that Marte doesn’t need surgery.

    He’s the best in the business, so that’s that.

  184. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    If you think Swisher is a “platoon player” you simply haven’t been paying attention. The dude is a legit starter.

  185. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Thank you Doreen and jennifer

    Today is the first day of the rest of Wang’s career

  186. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    S.A. -

    I’m having issues with this site, too. For about the last hour now.

  187. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Andrews examined Marte and did an MRI on his shoulder. He discovered no structural damage through those methods. However, if Marte’s shoulder is still hurting after so much rest/rehab there is something wrong and the only way to find out is to perform exploratory surgery. Surgery is most definitely still an option.

  188. CB June 17th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Bad news on Marte. Sounds like they may need to scope his shoulder to figure out what’s going on.

    MRI’s aren’t perfect. They can miss some injuries that can only be picked up by the surgeon going in and exploring the shoulder with a camera. That’s how they pick up small tears in the rotator cuff/ labrum that aren’t picked up on MRI. Sounds like that may the direction they’re going in. They’ll wait a while longer to see if rehab works. If he’s still having pain they’ll scope him to see what’s going on.

    The team should promote Mike Dunn to AAA. They’re going to need him in the penn this season and he’s on the 40 man. He’s pitching very well and has better stuff than Coke.

    Bigger issue is the shape of the pen as a whole.

    Right now it’s shaping up as Mo, possibly Bruney (pending health) and then essentially a bunch of first year players with no experience (tomko, etc doesn’t count as he’s the last guy in the pen).

    If Marte’s going to miss the season they’ll need to make a trade.

    And the trade market for relievers doesn’t look good, especially with the rockies still in the wild card hunt which would make Street potentially unavailable.

  189. pat June 17th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    “This site really slow for anybody else?”

    Painfully.

    Sweeney saying Posada is keeping the majority of the starts catching so the pitchers and him need to just work on making it work. Just need to get more used to each other because of the time Posada missed.

    Sweeney spoke with K Long about Alex. Said they are going to try to ramp up his workouts to get him more reps and back in the kind of rhythm he’s used to with pregame stuff.

    Mike sounded a little disappointed that the solutions might be that simple and there were no scabs for him to pick.

  190. Thomas June 17th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    “James Andrews just said yesterday that Marte doesn’t need surgery.

    He’s the best in the business, so that’s that.”

    So what was Cashman talking about today?

  191. Ed H. June 17th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Cashman’s throwing nothing but strikes tonight, folks. (With an occasional purpose pitch, high and tight.)

  192. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    So if Marte needs surgery we may see Dunn. Cool! 8)

  193. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    Very true, Nick.

    John Bonjovi cancels out most of the good things about Jersey though. :(

  194. Y26 June 17th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    Exploratory surgery is pretty common if rest/rebab doesn’t heal the soreness and they don’t know what is causing it.

    That’s what Cashman is talking about.

  195. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    This site really slow for anybody else?

    No, its not just you. I’m having some problems too. I thought it was just my connection because its pouring here in Florida, but Doreen and you are having problems too so I guess its the site.

  196. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Doreen, Tom-yeah, this is becoming a pain. It takes forever for this site to open up. I thought it was my internet connection but other sites are fine. Weird.

  197. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    okay things seem back to normal now

  198. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Worse news on Marte: his sore shoulder has been romantically linked to a cougar grandma. :(

  199. RS June 17th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    “I’d probably say Hughes is our 2nd most watchable pitcher.”

    I agree. In his last 6 appearences Hughes has a BB to K ratio of 5 to 29. I think his stuff is the best it has been since before his injury last year, and his confidence is miles better because of it. We’re finally seeing the pitcher who was touted for years as a prospect with good stuff AND command.

  200. G June 17th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Why is Posada behind the plate? Wang is going to get owned. Hes my favorite pitcher the day he came up, i hope he does good.

  201. Clark June 17th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    CB,

    Yeah, I agree. Not looking good for Marte. Cash has to go out of the organization for help, which is obviously easier said than done considering our biggest target (Street) is on a team that just won 11 in a row and is back in the WC race.

  202. Sarah June 17th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Oops – I didn’t read the negative comments by Cashman posted by fans. I now recall ‘the contract’ and ‘not starting pitcher’ comment. Bozo.

    Well, if Wang doesn’t have the support of upper management (and who ever does), he has the support of many fans; and of course, Mrs. Wang and baby Justin. GO WANG

  203. Bill Porter June 17th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Ca$hman’s bumper sticker: My German Shepherd is smarter than my relief pitcher!

  204. Peter Abraham June 17th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Sorry for the slowdowns on the blog. I’m told our IT people are working on it.

  205. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Tom in N.J
    June 17th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
    This site really slow for anybody else?

    ————————————————————

    Perhaps somebody thought of this as a preferred way of discouraging the trolls.

    Nahhhh….no trolls means less pennies in the coffers.

  206. pat June 17th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Feinsands Twitter:

    Derek Jeter: “Any time something happens, I get an MRI. That’s why I don’t tell them anything. They take a lot of MRIs around here.”

  207. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    I agree with Sweeney. I don’t get why the pitchers and Jorge just don’t have a rap session and get on the same page. It’s not that hard……

  208. ... June 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    “I’m not a fan of bringing up Kontos, Dunn or any more kids, to be honest. Seriously – there is no way they can be relied on at all to lead this team to the playoffs.”

    The concept of relying on the bullpen to lead a team to the playoffs, instead of say…the position players or the starting rotation, frightens me.

  209. Ed H. June 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    I’m having trouble with this site opening really slowly too. It’s them, not us.

    With this being Wang’s “do or die” night, I wonder how long a leash he’ll be on.

  210. Frank June 17th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Cashman was also in Scranton that day to see Wang pitch if I recall correctly. Wang pitched Game 1 of a doubleheader and Bruney started the second game and went 1 inning.

  211. bru June 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    this site is slow for me also.

    no problems with other sites.

  212. CB June 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    If Marte has a tear then that trip to the WBC really wasn’t a very swift move.

    The trade market for relievers is going to be brutal. The divisional races are so close that not many teams are out of it. Most teams need help in the pen.

    One thing is for certain – I don’t think the yankees will find a better arm for the pen than Hughes.

    They have a bunch of very difficult decisions to make if Marte does in fact need to be scoped.

  213. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    There is no concept of relying on the bullpen to lead the team to athe playoffs. Bullpens don’t lead teams to playoffs. They assist teams to get to the playoffs.

  214. vtred June 17th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    “The concept of relying on the bullpen to lead a team to the playoffs, instead of say…the position players or the starting rotation, frightens me.”

    lol

  215. Devin June 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    What team relies on their pen to make the playoffs?

  216. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Pete, can the IT people improve the mobile version of the blog too?

    Please?

  217. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! June 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    I GOT A TEACHING JOB WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    oh, and GO WANG!!

  218. RS June 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    I still think our bullpen has a chance to be good this year, even without making a major trade.

    If Bruney stays healthy he’s a good 8th inning reliever, and then they have Robertson and Aceves for the 7th inning, with Coke coming in to face lefties.

    If Burnett and Wang get on track, this team just needs an average pen to get to the playoffs. Then in the postseason at least one (if not both) of Hughes and Chamberlain will also be in the bullpen mix.

  219. kd June 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    congrats joe t!

  220. Spock June 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Yeah, we need the bullpen to “carry us” to October

    It has nothing to do with, say, AJ finally earning his money and not just relying on CC, does it?

  221. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Welcome aboard JoeT.

    Congrats!

  222. Ed H. June 17th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    I think I remember that Marte later admitted that his shoulder was bothering him before he left to go to the WBC but that he didn’t tell anyone because he didn’t want to miss the Classic. If so, he’s another case like Bruney. I can really see why Cashman’s so ticked off.

  223. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! June 17th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Thanks kd/tom

  224. DB June 17th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Scoping his arm because they can’t find anything wrong on film is pretty archiac. I haven’t seen that done in 10 years and I’ve been in practice for 12. The new magnets are pretty harp in detail and you can always do multiple repeat scans like Nady did. Doesn’t quite make sense to me.

  225. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Ok, bad wording GB, but my point still stands. Dunn and Kontos are going to assist the Yankees in their push towards the playoffs? Nope, you can’t count on them.

  226. T-Dot June 17th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Wang needs to keep the game close

    We’re going to sleepwalk through the first 6 innings of the game as usual and Lannan will cruise

    Then from the 7th on, we will either take the lead or chip away and win a come-from-behind game. Of course, our rally may fall short, as they do sometimes when you rely on them so much, but either way there will be a rally tonight.

  227. DB June 17th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    harp = sharp oy

  228. CB June 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    “If Burnett and Wang get on track, this team just needs an average pen to get to the playoffs.”

    If Burnett and Wang become productive parts of the rotation the bull pen will be fine as long as Bruney is ok (who knows?).

    If they really needed to – as long as Wang is ok in the rotation – they could in theory use Hughes out of the pen. A bull pen of Mo, Bruney, Hughes, Robertson, Coke, and Aceves would be a very good pen. It would be a strength and more than enough to make the playoffs.

    The whole key is the rotation. If Wang has to get removed from the rotation then they’ll never find an arm like Hughes’s to put in the pen.

    The only guy who would be as good as hughes that they could even in theory trade for would be Street and he might not be available. Valverde, qualls, etc. would all be downgrades from hughes.

    Wang and Burnett step up and the team has options. If they don’t the options dry up quickly.

  229. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Congratulations Joe T. Where are you going to be teaching?

  230. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    JoeT please teach your students the difference bewtween “than” and “then”

  231. Dave June 17th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Marte hasn’t pitched in almost 2 months and he still feels pain and all the MRIs come up negative.

    The only logical next step is some kind of explorative surgery. You can’t rest/rebab forever.

  232. pat June 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Congrats Joe.

    How old are the young minds you will be shaping?

  233. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Speaking of Joba, I was crunching some numbers last night for the hell of it and I discovered something very fascinating about Joba the starter.

    If you include Joba’s first career start last season against Toronto (a night he was on a pre-determined pitch count of roughly 50 pitches) in addition to his “start” against the Orioles when he was knocked out of the 1st inning when he took the liner off his knee, he has now made 24 starts in his very young career.

    In those starts, he has allowed just 3 ER or fewer in 21 of his 24 major league starts and 10 times this season in 12 starts.

    He allowed 5 ER once this season against Cleveland and 5 ER once last season in his final start of 2008 against Texas (the night his shoulder came up lame). And he allowed 4 ER against the Red Sox the same night he had 12 K’s.

    So only three times in 24 starts has Joba allowed more than 3 ER. That’s phenomenal.

    For the record, Sabathia has allowed more than 3 ER six times this season already. Pettitte has also done it six times. Burnett has done it four times. Hughes has done it twice (in just seven starts).

    To be fair, Sabathia is a freaking horse and gives this team far more innings than anyone else – so allowing 4 ER in 8 IP is more valuable to the team than allowing 3 ER in 6 IP.

    It is true that Joba needs to be more economical and he will be as he matures as a pitcher.

    But this kid has a lot of moxie and has the ability to limit the damage and keep his team in games even when he doesn’t pitch well. Phil Hughes does not have that ability just yet.

    For a 23 yr old kid to have that kind of ability and arsenal of pitches, he’s going to really be something special when he’s a finished product.

  234. Four hour June 17th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    “Wang and Burnett step up and the team has options. If they don’t the options dry up quickly.”

    Bingo. And atleast Wang has an excuse considering Cashman admitted they botched his rehab. AJ has no excuse. He needs to step up now, regardless of who is catching him.

    Really hope Wang does well tonight, would be a big step for us.

  235. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Congrats, JoeT!

    Marte won’t be scoped if the leeches work.

  236. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Betsy
    June 17th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
    Ok, bad wording GB, but my point still stands. Dunn and Kontos are going to assist the Yankees in their push towards the playoffs? Nope, you can’t count on them.

    ————————————————————

    Sorry, Betsy, but, I didn’t make any comments to you about Dunn and Kontos. Only thing that I said to anyone was that bullpens don’t lead teams to titles. Unless you are the 3 Dot Wonder.

  237. Ed H. June 17th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    I saw Wang pitch against the Nats in DC two or three years ago. It was a Fathers’ Day game. Wang was brilliant and took a shutout into the 9th. He got into trouble but Mo wasn’t available that day for some reason. Torre left Wang in and he got beat on a walkoff hit. I’d be happy tonight to have him give up two runs in six innings and turn it over to the bullpen.

  238. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! June 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    I GOT A TEACHING JOB WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    ===========================

    Congrats JoeT!

  239. DB June 17th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    I’m not too sure how many scans Marte has had. If Andrews suggests its more rest then that’s what they’ll do. It’s never a good sign when there’s continued inflammation. Things don’t get inflammed for no reason. Especially when a person is supposed to be resting.

  240. Eric June 17th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Franco – 100% correct. He has been our 2nd best pitcher this year, despite the fact that he was slated to be our #5.

    Considering how badly Burnett has struggled and Andy not doing too well, plus the Wang debacle…. Joba has had to step up this year and he has.

    Once our rotation rounds into form, it is going to be scary.

  241. ... June 17th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    My post was a more sarcastic way of stating what GB7 said.

  242. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    So cool to see Eli Manning & David Tyree in Monument Park!

  243. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    • Cashman said the team is better with Cabrera in center and Swisher in right. Not with Brett Gardner in the lineup.

    I guess GGBG is in Cashman’s doghouse. What is wrong with Cashman lately? He’s insulting players left and right.

  244. JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!! June 17th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Thank you all … It is elementary school in Orlando.

    Uncle Ellsworth – my first lesson will be on homonyms lol

  245. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    A little off topic, but does anyone know what happened to Amani Toomer from the NY Giants? I know he’s not with them anymore, but did he retire? or sign somewhere else?

  246. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    JoeT – good Luck!

  247. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 17th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    is twitter not working for anyone else or is it just my computer?

  248. BBFan June 17th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    “• Cashman said the team is better with Cabrera in center and Swisher in right. Not with Brett Gardner in the lineup.

    I guess GGBG is in Cashman’s doghouse. What is wrong with Cashman lately? He’s insulting players left and right.”

    I thought he was praising Melky and Swisher.
    Nothing wrong in saying team is better with them.

  249. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    JoeT 28 in 10!! OPPC Click Here!!
    June 17th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
    Thank you all … It is elementary school in Orlando.

    Uncle Ellsworth – my first lesson will be on homonyms lol

    ————————————————————

    Brackkk…homony tastes terrible. Nothing tastes worse than eating a large grit.

  250. King Brian June 17th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    “I guess GGBG is in Cashman’s doghouse. What is wrong with Cashman lately? He’s insulting players left and right.”

    He’s very angry for some reason… dating back to last year.

    He discounted what Hughes did in the Scranton playoffs because “it’s only AAA.”

    Then when he re-signed his contract, he called the writers “idiots” for ripping him.

    He used to be the king of generic white noise… now in every interview he is pessimistic or insulting someone LOL

  251. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Jones June 17th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    A little off topic, but does anyone know what happened to Amani Toomer from the NY Giants? I know he’s not with them anymore, but did he retire? or sign somewhere else?

    ==============================

    He didn’t retire. He is still looking for a team to sign with

  252. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Eiland talking about Wang “trusting” and not doing to much.
    said Wang admitted to trying to throw harder

  253. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Pena is sooo skinny!

  254. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Good luck to Toomer. I always root for athletes who played for my alma mater.

  255. timor June 17th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    “Ed H.
    June 17th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
    I saw Wang pitch against the Nats in DC two or three years ago. It was a Fathers’ Day game. Wang was brilliant and took a shutout into the 9th. He got into trouble but Mo wasn’t available that day for some reason.”

    Yes, tough weekend, Mo had taken the loss the day before, one of those losses that cost you the next day’s game too. That Saturday game featured a big blown lead, with Shawn Chacon and TJ Beam taking big steps towards pitching themselves off the team.

  256. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    homina homina

  257. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    too much Wang not doing *too* much

  258. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    “Worse news on Marte: his sore shoulder has been romantically linked to a cougar grandma. :(

    Was that a Jose Tabata reference?

    “Pete, can the IT people improve the mobile version of the blog too?”

    Yes please. Also for those of us with iPhones, it’s a real hassle trying to get to the bottom of the comments, maybe create a link at the top that brings you to the bottom of the page? I think I’ve seen something like this on other blogs.

    “Valverde, qualls, etc. would all be downgrades from hughes.”

    True, but if the Yankees can get another quality reliever in a trade it would help our rotation depth. Get Valverde/Qualls/?? then put Hughes back in AAA and it will really help if say Pettitte goes down with an injury.

    “Scoping his arm because they can’t find anything wrong on film is pretty archiac. I haven’t seen that done in 10 years and I’ve been in practice for 12.”

    No disrespect intended but it’s a pretty common practice in sports. Pitchers need their arm at peak performance and even the smallest tear can cause discomfort considering the amount of throws these guys make.

    Giueseppe Franco – Great point about Joba.

  259. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
    June 17th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
    homina homina

    ————————————————————

    “Hey, there, Ralphie Boy.”

  260. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    I call you “killer” ’cause you slay me………

  261. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
    June 17th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
    I call you “killer” ‘cause you slay me………

    ————————————————————

    God, I loved Gleason and Carney. They wad to be one of the top two comedy teams, ever.

  262. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 17th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Congrats Joe.
    How old are the young minds you will be shaping?

    ***************************************

    lol, i was going go with corrupting over shaping.

    Just teasing, Joe. ;) Congrats, thats really exciting news for you.

  263. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    I thought Jeter had this sign?

    http://auction.steinersports.c.....=105742728

  264. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    God, I loved Gleason and Carney. They wad to be one of the top two comedy teams, ever.

    ————————————————————

    Right up there, next to my spelling and typing skills.

  265. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    “Pena is sooo skinny!”

    I think Pete said yestersay, don’t quote me that he was originally 160 pounds, but now he’s 175. He still looks like a twig though from the TV.

  266. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    GB
    on Sunday night Channel 11 (formerly WPIX, formerly the WB) still shows Honeymooners reruns. Still great.

  267. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    I still can’t get over how the organization has treated Wang.

    RANT ALERT

    The Yanks are largely to blame for botching Wang’s rehab over the offseason by ordering him not to do the lower body exercises that was a big part of his offseason workout regimen – which in turn exacerbated his problems in April because his velocity was down as a result of his legs not being strong enough.

    Cashman himself admitted they screwed that up. They told Bruney the very same thing because these guys suffered the same injury (Lisfranc) and he’s had issues this season as well.

    They completely botched Wang’s rehab for a second time when they foolishly activated him before he was ready to come back (when Joba got nailed with that liner) and stuck him in the bullpen to rot.

    You could see that coming a mile away. I said the day they activated him that it was a stupid reactionary move and that’s exactly how it has turned out.

    He sat out there for over a week and didn’t get any work at all. That was ridiculous moronic. He sure as hell isn’t going to figure things out if he’s not on the mound and throwing innings.

    Now they’ve screwed up for a third time by essentially giving him an ultimatum and putting that much more pressure on him to do well tonight.

    I’m amazed how this organization could have been so stupid to treat this guy that way. He’s an enormously valuable commodity when he’s right and they have to do whatever it takes to fix him no matter how he pitches tonight.

    They paid $82M over the offseason for AJ Burnett and Wang has a better track record of success. That’s not even debatable.

    Flushing this guy down the toilet if he doesn’t pitch well tonight is about the stupidest thing they could possibly do. Yet, it seems like that’s where they are leaning right now.

    END OF RANT

  268. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    “Pretty decent stuff” “doesn’t have overpowering stuff”
    John is terrible.

  269. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    why doesn’t A-rod get a day off, he hasn’t had one since he’s been back…can’t Girardi afford to put his beloved Berroa in for a game?

  270. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
    June 17th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    GB
    on Sunday night Channel 11 (formerly WPIX, formerly the WB) still shows Honeymooners reruns. Still great.

    ————————————————————

    after 55 years, I still watch those shows. I have the complete disc set and have a “Honeymooners Marathon”….Sort like when I’d just get married, only different.

  271. Papa Smurf June 17th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Sarah
    June 17th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
    Oops – I didn’t read the negative comments by Cashman posted by fans. I now recall ‘the contract’ and ‘not starting pitcher’ comment. Bozo.

    Well, if Wang doesn’t have the support of upper management (and who ever does), he has the support of many fans; and of course, Mrs. Wang and baby Justin. GO WANG

    —————————————————–

    The funniest part of Cashman blaming Wang, the next day it came out that the yankees told the Wang not to do leg excercises over the winter.

  272. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Wang is terrible that’s why Giuseppe Franco

  273. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    A-Rod just had a day off on Monday.

    Besides, A-Rod with a broken collarbone, a torn ACL, and a bum hip is still better than a completely healthy Angel Berroa.

  274. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    I totally agree with your rant Giuseppe Franco.

  275. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Wang is terrible that’s why Giuseppe Franco

    ——————

    Maybe you should learn something about this game before you make such an idiotic comment.

    Pitchers of Wang’s ability don’t grow on trees. And Yankee “fans” like you have no concept of patience.

  276. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 17th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    That was a very restrained, rational rant, GF. I don’t even see one moment of abuse of the CAPS key in it, lol.

    Well said, though.

  277. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Wang is terrible that’s why Giuseppe Franco
    —————————
    Maybe you should learn something about this game before you make such an idiotic comment.

    Pitchers of Wang’s ability don’t grow on trees. And Yankee “fans” like you have no concept of patience.

    It’s a joke calm down. I love daddy Wang.

  278. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Let’s go Wang!

  279. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Cano is a beast man. A Cano Pena infield should be nice today for Wang.

  280. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    how’s he look?????

  281. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 17th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Oh, I guess RANT ALERT and END OF RANT were in caps, but they’re sorta used as formatting over yelling.

  282. Papa Smurf June 17th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Cashman also said that Cody Ransom is better defensively than A-Rod. You cant always listen to what Cashman says. And they did mess Wang up there was no need to activate him and put him the bullpen. That was a dumb panic move by Cashman.

  283. ANSKY June 17th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    GRATUITIOUS LINEUP COMPLAINT:
    There are only 9 guys hitting. We have 25. What gives? :)

    I sincerely hope they give Wang a fair shot considering the screw-ups on his rehab. If he’s on track, he’s solid. HE can do that, and the team needs that. But I realize (and I think CMW does too) that they can’t wait forever. So, everyone is hoping to see something at least in the right direction tonight.

    If he gives up 4 through 6, it’s not a disaster. It’s not great, but it’s probably the most he can really give up depending on the game situations. Giving up 2 or 3 through 6 is more like what the team needs to see. Giving up 0, 1 or 2 with good command and efficiency would be pretty convincing.

  284. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    That was strike 3

  285. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Eiland’s watchful eye…

    Wang’s wing, release points, pitching…

    Twittering Taiwan…

  286. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    “Cashman said he went to Scranton to see Bruney’s rehab the first time around. “It was a waste of a two-and-half-hour drive,” he said.”

    It wouldn’t have been such a waste if he would’ve left Berroa in Scranton. :mad:

    I am also not pleased with the so-called enormity of this start. I hope that it’s mostly hyperbole and Cashman and Girardi have a better POV. I just want to see genuine progress from Wang.

  287. ANSKY June 17th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Papa Smurf – Right now, Alex looks like he’s still effected by the hip or the surgery. I dunno but that might have been part of what Cash meant. Pena’s a pretty good fielder too.

  288. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Not good so far. Everything is up.

  289. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Wang in his windup…

    Whispering in Mandarin…

    Sinking sun return…

  290. ANSKY June 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Sorry Papa Smurf
    Ransom … Pena … my mistake. Still, Alex just ain’t quite right yet.

  291. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    I wish John would shut up

  292. Joe Mama June 17th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Not looking good so far i hope he recovers here

  293. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Flaherty is right. Wang is both a first-time father and a first-time dad.

  294. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Dynasty
    did you see my attempt at Haiku at the end of last night’s thread? It was an homage to the Haiku laureate of the blog.

  295. bru June 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    come on wang you can do it.

  296. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    I just want to see progress/improvement from Wang.

  297. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    # Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Flaherty is right. Wang is both a first-time father and a first-time dad.

    lol

  298. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    GJ wang “)

  299. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Now thats the Wang I know

  300. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Nice Wang!

  301. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Flaherty is right. Wang is both a first-time father and a first-time dad.

    ==============================

    :lol:

  302. chris June 17th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Is flash really going to assess every single pitch?

  303. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Sinkerball Sensei…

    Clipping cowhide cherubs’ wings…

    Senators and sod…

  304. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    that’s what she said

  305. Josh from NC June 17th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    the famous wang double play!

  306. Serf June 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    I’m feeling Wang’s pressure. I don’t want to see him go. He’s way too good to be released or anything like that.

  307. Kevin June 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DOUBLE PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  308. bru June 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    i can’t listen to sterling.can’t stand the job he does.

    you have too wait forever to find out what happened.

    “that ball is hit hard,deep” and a minute later he calmly tells you it was a foul ball.

  309. CB June 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Despite that double play, that was not a good inning for Wang. His sinker is not sinking.

    The only pitch he got down in the zone was his slider. That was the pitch he got the double play on.

  310. randy l. June 17th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    “Not good so far. Everything is up.”

    gb7-

    gameday f/x has his release point very high which isn’t going to allow the good sinker.

    his stuff was so so, but the results good.

  311. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth,

    Yes, thank you, and it was an exellent haiku!

  312. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Angel (F) – ‘Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start
    June 17th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    Oh, I guess RANT ALERT and END OF RANT were in caps, but they’re sorta used as formatting over yelling.

    ————————————————————

    This is going to be difficult to talk about Wang being up or down with his pitches.

  313. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    This dude works fast

  314. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Cool Dynasty thanks

  315. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    “that’s what she said”

    Ha!

    Next time I’ll use a comma.

  316. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Any scoreless inning from Wang is a-okay in my opinion

  317. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Oh that Alex

  318. Serf June 17th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Strikeout = Predicted.

    A-Rod is really starting to get to me. I don’t care how good you’ve been in your career. I care about what you do *now*.

  319. tishbi June 17th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    This is goin to be frustrating to watch. Lannon is gonna pump in strikes and were just gonna have lazy AB after lazy AB.

  320. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    A-Rod should go on the DL, sit back, and laugh at what the Yankees would be without him. Some Yankee fans I swear.

  321. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Sensei?

    I throw a red flag on that one.

  322. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Lannan, looming clouds…

    Pinstriped pinwheels at the plate…

    Inning is over…

  323. CB June 17th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    First pitch to Dunn was by far the best pitch Wang has thrown so far. That was the first pitch tonight where it looked like one of his good sinkers

  324. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Artistic license

  325. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    randy l.
    June 17th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
    “Not good so far. Everything is up.”

    gb7-

    gameday f/x has his release point very high which isn’t going to allow the good sinker.

    his stuff was so so, but the results good.

    ————————————————————

    I keep thinking back to that Mets game in 2007, where he went 8.2 innings throwing only 95 MPH 4 seem fastballs and sliders. He threw about 3 sinkers in the entire game. walked about two, gave up a run and struck out 10. Maybe that’s something to look at until the sinker comes back.

  326. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    95 MPH, 4 ***seam*** fastballs and sliders

  327. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    I don’t care i just want wang to get his confidence up

  328. Olan June 17th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    his velocity is down …..

  329. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    lets say CMW pitches well thru 6 or 7 innings; is pitching against the worst team in baseball a true reading of what we’ve got from him? or is Girardi just going to take it as something to build on?

  330. Olan June 17th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    they’re hitting every single ball in the strike zone..

  331. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Man the crowd is quiet.

  332. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    the interest is up

    the stock market is down

    you only get mugged when you go downtown

    Hank Jr.

  333. CB June 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    “lets say CMW pitches well thru 6 or 7 innings; is pitching against the worst team in baseball a true reading of what we’ve got from him? or is Girardi just going to take it as something to build on?”

    The nationals might be the worst team in baseball but they in no way have the worst offense in baseball.

    They have the 5th highest OPS in the NL and are middle of the NL in runs scored.

    They have a good offense. The reason why the team is so bad is due to their pitching, especially their bull pen.

    This is a good test for Wang.

  334. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    1 more out and we’re way ahead of where he was vs. BOS! woo hoo!

  335. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Dam you baseball gods

  336. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    :?

  337. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    lol

  338. Serf June 17th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    There goes Wang’s Perfect Game. No hitter maybe? :P

  339. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Go Wang! Man it hurts to seem him struggle like this.

  340. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    35 pitches for Wang

  341. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Mandarin marvel…

    Under sullen skies, sinking…

    Swish, Senators swing…

  342. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Shrekroids June 17th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    are we watching the same game as the yes announcers? His sinker looks better than boston

    No his “stuff” isn’t better. If you go back to Boston you will see that he had more “life” on his sinker.

  343. sfochild June 17th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    “they’re hitting every single ball in the strike zone..”
    – Olan

    Correction. they are making contact with everything in the strike zone. doesnt seem like a problem just so long as they dont hit the ball very much in the air, seeing as Wang is a contact pitcher.

  344. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 17th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    i dont care what kind of stuff Wang is throwing, you’re not going to have your best stuff everytime out. as long as he keeps us in the game its all dandy for me.

  345. randy l. June 17th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    gb7-

    i agree and mentioned that last game that i would have him throw more four seamers until the sinker kicks in. it would buy some time. he wouldn’t be great, but he could get outs. 94-95 four seamers with command would work with some secondary pitches mixed in.

  346. CB June 17th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    “35 pitches for Wang”

    23 strikes. 65% strike rate. Which is very good.

    He looks almost exactly the opposite of what he looked like last game.

    His command is very good but his stuff doesn’t look very good. Not as much sink, not as much movement.

  347. wes June 17th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    ugh Flaherty. I’m not a Kay fan, but Flaherty always has got on nerves

  348. CB June 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    “i would have him throw more four seamers until the sinker kicks in”

    randy,

    they’re doing that with his slider. he’s throwing it significantly more often.

  349. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    • Brian Bruney “lied” to him about his elbow. “It drives me nuts,” Cashman said. Cashman said he went to Scranton to see Bruney’s rehab the first time around. “It was a waste of a two-and-half-hour drive,” he said. He compared injured players to pets because they can’t or won’t tell you what is wrong.

    **********

    This is hysterical!!

  350. tishbi June 17th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    And the Yankees keep on obliging with thw Washington pitching plans.

  351. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Soft throwing lefty > Yankees offense

  352. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Uncle just reading your question now. Sure no problem I’ll ask.

    Doreen how funny. It would have been cool if we were on the same tour!

  353. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Thanks jennifer

  354. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    randy l.
    June 17th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
    gb7-

    i agree and mentioned that last game that i would have him throw more four seamers until the sinker kicks in. it would buy some time. he wouldn’t be great, but he could get outs. 94-95 four seamers with command would work with some secondary pitches mixed in.

    ————————————————————

    I would think that 4 or 5 successful innings of that and he would be sufficiently tired to get a natural sink, giving him at least three pitches….like you say…to buy some time.

  355. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Nieves is chummy with the Yanks, he is wired on MASN, and is chummy with the umps

  356. C June 17th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    at this point this is getting really old… Yankees cant hit guys they never see? Who to blame the scouts?

  357. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Theres the man of the hour, Eli “MVP” Manning

  358. TeeJay June 17th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Whats up with Cash money lately he has been ripping half of his roster. The best one was about A-Rod during the steroid admission he said that he believed Alex was more dumb than naive.

  359. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Uncle are you on twitter? I can post the answer from the tour. lol

  360. randy l. June 17th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    cb-
    don’t you think that the four seam fastball would be more effective as a go to pitch when he has trouble with the sinker?

    if they’re sitting on the sinker, the four seam fastball is a couple of mph faster. if it’s placed well hitters should be a tick late.

    and according to neil allen the four seamer needs to be mixed in to knock the hitters off the plate so it is part of his normal arsenal of pitches.

    of course , he should mix in some sliders too.

  361. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    CMW is getting better by the inning!

  362. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Mandarin sometimes
    local dialect also
    native Taiwanese

  363. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    I hope Wang can give us 6.

  364. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    cantos counted three

    JJ Daddy Stanzas tall

    poetic justice

  365. CB June 17th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    “don’t you think that the four seam fastball would be more effective as a go to pitch when he has trouble with the sinker?”

    I think it depends on what one’s goal is.

    Is the goal to build up arm strength within a game situation? Is so then a four seam approach might work.

    On the flip side his 4 seamer isn’t a very good pitch even when he throws it hard. And he really hasn’t pitched off of it for years so that will be a significant change in his approach.

    Or is the goal to get Wang’s process back? Is the goal to get to do the things needed to throw his two seamer e.g. staying on top of the ball (which he isn’t doing consistently right now)?

    I don’t know what the answer is to that. I do feel that he needs to get that 2 seamer back or he’s not going to be able to help the team.

  366. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Getting better, her. 2 strikeouts 5 groundouts (1 double play) and only 1 fly ball. 1 Hit on the ground.

  367. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    I’m listening to game How is Wang’s demeanor? body language?

  368. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Slinging sinkerballs,

    Expectant island nation…

    Returning to form…

  369. Will June 17th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    CMW telling people “Ga li gong, wa long m gia”

  370. Throw more strikes June 17th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Wang looks very good so far

  371. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    We need a hit.

  372. CB June 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    That was a very good inning by wang. One of his better this year. He was down in the zone but didn’t lose command.

    He’s at 50 pitches and this has been the break point where he’s gotten tired in the past and his stuff has gotten worse.

    Let’s hope he can get past the 50 pitch mark.

    And it would really help if the offense gave him a lead.

  373. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    give the guy a few runs to work with already!!!!!!!!!

  374. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    the Stadium sells sea bass? wow!

  375. S June 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    MASN went from pretty good yesterday to unwatchable today. Ugh.

  376. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    soft throwing lefty eat up Yankees for breafast

  377. Vighorois June 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Wow, 3 innings without an earned run, when was the last time CMW had such an amazing streak as a starter? :-p On a serious note, I do hope he hangs in there and show them what he’s got.

  378. CB June 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    “I’m listening to game How is Wang’s demeanor? body language?”

    Wang’s demeanor and body language are fine. Basically looks like Wang – nothing bothering him.

  379. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Uncle,

    same as it always is…..stoic…..we can’t buy a hit!

  380. C June 17th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    yankees against pitcher they never seen=Little league team

  381. Throw more strikes June 17th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    here we go again, making Lannon look like Koufax

  382. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Maybe next inning we will get a hit
    Back to work Wanger

  383. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    S,

    yeah, so when I lose my job, I def know where to apply for a new job! MASN announcer!

  384. Throw more strikes June 17th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Peyton Manning’s wife is hot

  385. The Other Phil June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Let the lineup get more than one look and we’ll see how it goes. Though one or two hits would be nice to start with…

  386. tishbi June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Every team that faces the Yankees should just call up pitchers the Yanks have never seen. This is disgracefull 3 no hit innings.

  387. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Get that man some runs!

    Thanks CB / Denise

    see you at post game

  388. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    if i was any of the AL east team i stock my farm system with soft throwing lefties just for the yankees

  389. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    dynasty is destiny,

    your (haikus? i think) are great…they are one of my favorite things on here

  390. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Red Sox winning 2-1

  391. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    tishbi
    June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
    Every team that faces the Yankees should just call up pitchers the Yanks have never seen. This is disgracefull 3 no hit innings.

    FWIW
    John and Suzyn were advocating this last night

  392. Christina - Picture of YES Network studio June 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Is YES going to show every celebrity at the game? We all know they are the only ones who can afford the seats but I dont need to see celebrities at a baseball game. Dont know who Vanessa Williams is and I could care less.

  393. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    CB
    June 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
    “I’m listening to game How is Wang’s demeanor? body language?”

    Wang’s demeanor and body language are fine. Basically looks like Wang – nothing bothering him.

    ————————————————————

    Looks normal. Like the old wang, including still not being able to hold runners.

  394. Olan June 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    oh oh…..

  395. Olan June 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    oh oh…..

  396. Throw more strikes June 17th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Wang keeps getting better

  397. randy l. June 17th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    cb-

    building arm strength was what i was thinking of while at the same time not getting killed.

    i’m not as down on his four seamer as you are. i believe a straight four seam fastball is a really effective pitch if the command is good. shilling made a career out of it. a pitcher who commands a four seamer doesn’t want movement. they want the ball to go where they are aiming.

    four seam fastball command is the basic tenet of red sox pitching coach john farrel. i read an interview where he said a pitcher could win a game with nothing but four seam fastballs if he put the ball where he wanted it.

    the four seam fastball is meant to be thrown by wang in some situations. it’s not like it’s a new pitch.

    that said , wang is starting to get some sink on his ball, so he’s getting by so far tonight with it and the sliders mixed in. so what you’re saying could work too.

  398. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    June 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Every team that faces the Yankees should just call up pitchers the Yanks have never seen. This is disgracefull 3 no hit innings.
    _________
    hes the Nats best pitcher hes not a bad pitcher

  399. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Throw more strikes,

    money can buy you love!!! or hotness!

  400. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    It’s funny, but as bad as Wang has been, his slider this year has been very good. Much better than it’s been in the past.

  401. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Ball game

  402. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Damn

  403. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    wow that was crushed Nick didn’t even turn around and look.

  404. David (In Seattle) June 17th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    June 17th game

    Sinkerball pitcher Wang throws

    Worms are turned to mush

  405. artielange June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    thats why you swing on 3-0

  406. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    wow! big time HR! no sinkin sinker there!

  407. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Its ok Wang, its ok. One run. Keep it there.

  408. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    It happens brush it off wang

  409. S June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Adam Dunn’s wife is hot. Jesus.

  410. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    1 solo shot thats ok.

  411. The Other Phil June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Think so C? Then you don’t need to post anymore. Bye.

  412. Nick in SF June 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Adam Dunn says hi
    as the ball sails very far
    half way to Taiwan

  413. David (In Seattle) June 17th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Oh NOOOOOOOOOO! – I Jinxed him…..

  414. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    it was hit so far Sterling didnt bother to make his Hr call

  415. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Marlins threatening, 1 out, man on 3rd

  416. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Lannan, listless Yanks…

    Sinking stats, splintering ash…

    Wang, watching it go…

  417. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    SO #4

  418. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Does this game seem pretty boring to anyone?

  419. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    come on CMW

  420. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Carl,

    so was last nite….the players aren’t into it either, at all! maybe that’s a problem??

  421. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Yesterday wasn’t bad to me. This is just I don’t know.

  422. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    4 inning 1 run ball =)

  423. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Tex could so take over DJ’s spot as hottest Yankee

  424. randy l. June 17th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    “It’s funny, but as bad as Wang has been, his slider this year has been very good. Much better than it’s been in the past.”

    cb-
    it’s possible his slider is better from the higher release point that he’s still throwing.

    assuming game day pitch fx is accurate his release point is way up again tonight.

    speaking of game day accuracy, at fenway the game day f/x was 5’9″ on average. tonight it’s back up to 6’3″ at yankee stadium which is what it’s been .

    do you think fenway’s f/x is that much different, and do you think you have to compare yankee stadium pitch f/x to only yankee stadium f/x?

  425. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Nice play, Tex!

    Ok, I can’t complain about 1 run in 4 innings……..Wang is making progress. By the way, was Girardi thrown out of the game? If not, why is Tony Pena giving signs? Does he normally do that?

  426. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    69 pitches for Wang
    42 strikes, 27 balls

  427. mmx June 17th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Focus on hitter, Wang!

  428. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    That home run wasn’t a big deal at all.

    He fell behind in the count to one of the premier HR hitters in the game. Dunn has a ton of power.

    But he didn’t hang that pitch. It was low in the zone – but low in the zone and inside to left handed hitter which is putting it in Dunn’s wheelhouse.

    But otherwise Wang looked good that inning. He didn’t start letting pitches float up in the zone past the 50 pitch mark.

  429. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Does this game seem pretty boring to anyone?

    ==============================

    Yeah kinda. This game has a weird feel to it

  430. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    come on – this is getting painful!

  431. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    RalphieD,

    Thanks! Glad you like the haiku!

  432. Jeff NJ June 17th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Is it too late for me to change position and say Wang belongs in the rotation? Hughes in the pen until the next injury is ok with me.

  433. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    at this point do u credit the yankees for the no hitter or the pitching of lannan?

  434. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    right now a hit would be good!

  435. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    So, did Adam Dunn hit a home run, or was that the latest shuttle launch?

    Seems the jury is still out on that.

  436. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    OMG, he so sucks…I swear, I really thing A-Rod is not still working out his injury, this is him without juice! and we’ve got him locked in to rob us a la Pavano, of way more money!

  437. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    anyone else embarrassed by our offense yet?

  438. nemo June 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Haha, I guess we were all wrong about the Yankees giving Wang a lot of run support to work with.

    How pathetic. Should we take bets on a no-hitter?

  439. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    That inning went by pretty fast.

  440. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    If we don’t get a hit next inning, its gonna pop up everywhere that we are being no-hit.

  441. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    “it’s possible his slider is better from the higher release point that he’s still throwing.”

    Very good point. I’d bet that could be it.

    I honestly don’t know what to make of the pitch f/x release point stuff at the stadium.

    There’s no way his release point has gone up that much compared to his last start.

    I do think he got under the ball instead of staying on top of it several times, particularly at the start of the game but i’d expect that to increase the variation in his release point more than changing it’s overall average.

    I don’t know what to make of it.

    I’d guess comparing his current release point to his last start in the stadium would be fine to see if there is a change.

    But i wouldn’t put too much into the absolute measurement.

  442. Stop The Walks June 17th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    At least the bats are making it easy on CMW!

  443. igotid88 June 17th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Come on Alex hit like you’re hitting against the Yankees.

  444. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    i will say Lannan will No-hit the yankees for 6 innings

  445. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Arod is just like the Energizer Bunny,

    he keeps choking, and choking, and choking, and …………..

  446. tim boat June 17th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Come on Alex, hit like its 10-0

  447. Serf June 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Two stolen bases for…The Nationals!?
    Posada is in real big trouble. Everyone thinks they can steal off him.

  448. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Did Dave Eiland come out to talk to Wang once this game?

  449. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Rookie mistake. What are you going to do? He’ll learn

  450. RS June 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    This is ridiculous. The Nationals NEVER run, but surprise, surprise, they’re running against us.

    A half-decent throw would have gotten him out there, but I guess that’s too much to ask from Posada.

  451. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Perfect throw by posada. Terrible play by Pena.

    Pena has a ton of range but needs to be better on making routine plays.

  452. Olan June 17th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    they’re stealing at will..

  453. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    On another note, you were right in your prediction the other night, CB, it looks like Wang is starting to get it together.

    That’s good news.

  454. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    It’s our OFFENSE.

    The worst pitching in all of MLB, and they had 5 runs last night, 3 of which were the direct result of horrible defense, and none tonight.

    This is the WORST PITCHING IN ALL OF BASEBALL. Can’t blame the pitching for this.

  455. Wow. June 17th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    The throw was there. That wasn’t on JoPo.

  456. Dutch Hugo June 17th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Is there any other team in baseball that consistently takes as long to get their offense going as ours? Thankfully we usually eventually get it cranked up in time to come back, but game after game we get shut down for the first 5-6 innings.

  457. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    It wasn’t Posada’s fault morons. Pena made a mistake. Its alright calm down.

  458. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    haha atta boy Pena. Made up for that mistake!

  459. Wow. June 17th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Safe? Hmm.

  460. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    What is wrong with these fans booing? or are they booing the ump?

  461. RS June 17th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    He was out.

  462. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    WHAT!?!?!?

  463. Wow. June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    How about out.

  464. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Another blind ump

  465. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    wow he was out!

  466. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    eh :?

  467. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Relax, this kid Lannan is all hyped up on adrenalin pitching against his childhood heroes. He’ll come down to earth by the 6th or 7th.

  468. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    “Two stolen bases for…The Nationals!?
    Posada is in real big trouble. Everyone thinks they can steal off him.”

    Then everyone would be wrong.

    Posada has one of the highest success rates in throwing out runners in the entire AL. (H/t RAB)

    http://fackyouk.blogspot.com/2.....jorge.html

  469. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    deaf and blind ump

    dp now

  470. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Phillies are losing to Toronto again – they can beat us, but not the rest of the East, lol. The Jays are hanging in there…….Yanks are not guaranteed a playoff spot, they are going to have to really earn it.

  471. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    OMG, he so sucks…I swear, I really thing A-Rod is not still working out his injury, this is him without juice! and we’ve got him locked in to rob us a la Pavano, of way more money!

    ********************************************************

    :roll:

  472. igotid88 June 17th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Were people booing Alex or the umpire?

  473. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Nice play by Pena.

    Lannan is definitely the best pitcher on the staff, and he’s a pretty good one. While he shouldn’t be throwing a no-hitter against this lineup, this is better than flailing against Sharon Martis.

    And that’s a terrible call there.

  474. Joe Mama June 17th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Another terrible call

  475. joe June 17th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    that guy is gonna be the home plate ump tomorrow right?

  476. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    A DP would be nice

  477. Throw more strikes June 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    its about ready to explode

  478. RS June 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Wang has had to get more outs than necessary today. First after the dropped strikeout, and now after the ump blew a call.

  479. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    We had Pavano? Never seen him play in NY.

  480. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    DISGRACEFUL call at first base.

    That wasn’t even close. How can an umpire miss that call?

    No wonder they think we want to replace them with instant replay. It’s not that we hate them, it’s that they are TERRIBLE at their jobs.

    If I continually screw up the easiest parts of my job, I’d certainly get fired. These guys are living the sweet life behind their ridiculously overpowered union.

  481. Papa Smurf June 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    That was the ump making up for last night when they called Duke out on the Melky catch. Melky did trap the ball.

    Nick Johnson looks good with the stache. Yankees need to trade for him. Matsui is not getting the job done.

  482. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    without halladay jays are not doing anything

  483. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    GJ Melky!

  484. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Milky why?

  485. AD June 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Have the first base umpires gone blind this season? I’ve seen an insane amount of blown calls. What the hell is going on?

  486. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    good job yanks

    find a way to lose against the worst team in baseball

  487. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    DO NOT DARE BLAME WANG.

    A dropped out at 2nd base and a missed call at first base. What do you expect to happen when you play dumb baseball?

  488. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    :cry:

  489. RenataD June 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Yeah, it’d be a great time for those Yankee bats to wake up.

  490. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    How long do you go with Wang? At some point, he needs to be able to break through and get past 5 innings…….

  491. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Not too fun getting stung by former Yankees like that.

  492. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    3-0 :(

  493. Christina June 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Yankees can’t hit or field for Wang tonight.

  494. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    He was no where near that ball

  495. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Offense is MIA again.

  496. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Melky is not as good a center fielder as he thinks he is.

    Damnit, this started so well.

    I’ve seen enough to be encouraged, and the Nats pen combined with our comeback offense really isn’t something to despair over.

  497. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Come on Wanger

  498. RS June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    This is such BS! It should be 2-0 with 2 outs and a runner on 3rd w/2 outs.

    The umps might have cost us this game on a play that wasn’t even close.

  499. Donnie - Will Meet Carlos Beltran Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Bonehead play by Melky that cost them a run. He’s FAR from a finished product.

    Wang…eh. I don’t even know. He lasted 4 innings, which is about one more than he’s BEEN going, but this inning has been atrocious. I’m not really sure WHAT I’d do with him, because starters HAVE to go longer than 4 innings.

  500. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    The magic 5th inning. That’s where Posada helped CC lose his shutout last night. Maybe that’s the inning he pretends he’s the hitter and calls for the ball where the hitter can smack it out. Idiot.

  501. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    The Yanks played very good defense yesterday.

    Tonight – not so much.

    Pena gave away an out at second base.

    And what was Melky thinking. Just awful. He turns a runs scoring single into a 2 run triple for absolutely not reason.

  502. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Man, some of you act like your life depends on this game. I’m all for winning too but some of these posts just make some of you come off like you have nothing in your life other than the Yankees.

  503. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Don’t blame wang

  504. Michel June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    It is the fifth inning, we’ve won most of our games coming from behind, and the Nats bullpen sucks. It isn’t over yet.

  505. BBFan June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    “Perfect throw by posada. Terrible play by Pena.

    Pena has a ton of range but needs to be better on making routine plays.”

    That trhow hit the dirt a foot or so before the bag. How is it a perfect throw. Still, Pena should have caught it.

  506. KO June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    WOW, that is some pretty horrible defense by Melky right there. He just cost them a run and probably another one because Johnson gets to third. Just absolutely pathetic defense after a cheating call by an umpire. If we can tell on TV that the guy is dead out, if you’re a professional umpire standing five feet away, you know that’s an out. That is pure, flat out cheating by an ump. And you know how you fix that? Extend review to any call by an umpire, but make it like football- give two challenges to each coach, they use them as they please. You use up the two, that’s it. That’s how you extend replay to more calls than just homres, and don’t slow down the game too much. In baseball, one blown call can determine the outcome of a game.

  507. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Yanks lose to the worst team in baseball. Boston would not lose to the lowly Nats. Disgraceful performance from NY.

    And Wang stinks it up again.

  508. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Whats Wang’s pitch count up to now?

  509. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    WHY the hell is Berroa Still on this team if you are not even trying to rest Arod what is the point? maybe Giardi forgot he is still on the team

  510. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    nevermind

  511. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    >• Cashman said the team is better with Cabrera in center

    aha

    ahaha

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  512. Papa Smurf June 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    LOL @ Melky he had no shot at catching that ball.

  513. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    I don’t understand that decision by Melky. If he catches that ball the run still scores this was not a diving situation in the 5th inning.

  514. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    wang has not pitched poorly…his velocity is not great and is missing some spots but he has gotten no help from the offense, defense or ump

  515. RS June 17th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    It should be 2-0 and inning over. Wang got an easy groundball out and the ump made a terrible call.

  516. RS June 17th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    It should be 2-0 and inning over. Wang got an easy groundball out and the ump made a terrible call.

  517. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Welp, Wang got screwed by the umpire.

    Wang looks good enough, still not at his sharpest but good enough. I could see him going 6

  518. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    “How long do you go with Wang? At some point, he needs to be able to break through and get past 5 innings…….”

    I think you keep going as long as you see steady progress. Use Hughes as the back-up if he can’t go deep. This is the best we’ve seen Wang pitch, by a long shot. You don’t just lose the kind of ability Wang has. After tonight, I’m thinking he’s on the way back.

  519. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    *Denise*
    June 17th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
    OMG, he so sucks…I swear, I really thing A-Rod is not still working out his injury, this is him without juice! and we’ve got him locked in to rob us a la Pavano, of way more money!

    ————————————————————

    You weren’t wearing your little plastic hemet when you ran your bicycle into that tree, were you?

  520. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Yanks lose to the worst team in baseball. Boston would not lose to the lowly Nats. Disgraceful performance from NY.

    And Wang stinks it up again.
    ________

    Oh Shut Up!!

  521. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    “It is the fifth inning, we’ve won most of our games coming from behind, and the Nats bullpen sucks. It isn’t over yet.”

    Lannan has only thrown 48 pitches hes not coming out anytime soon

  522. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Wang at 86 pitches and rising

  523. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    This is what Wang has ALWAYS done with men on base. He gets nervous and throws meatballs. This is what Wang is.

  524. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    That trhow hit the dirt a foot or so before the bag. How is it a perfect throw. Still, Pena should have caught it.
    =========

    Jeter makes that play

  525. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Correction: plastic ***helmet*** when you ran

  526. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Tom, I’d like to see Wang get through this inning with no more than 1 run scored…..MAYBE another, but I suspect that couldf be pushing it. Either way, I would assume Phil sees some action tonight

  527. igotid88 June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    I wonder if the people at the stadium were confused on whom they should be booing?

  528. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Nice Job Wang, no thanks to the defense or ump

  529. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    “This is what Wang has ALWAYS done with men on base. He gets nervous and throws meatballs. This is what Wang is.”

    If you find a single statistic to support that, I promise to keel over and die. It has to be a career-long trend, not one season.

    Ready….GO!

  530. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Why does John Flaraterrible have a job?

  531. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Wang to the bullpen. News at 11.

  532. KO June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Whoever thinks Wang is pitching poorly is really clueless. If they don’t get cheated by that ump, it’s at the most 2-0, and possibly still 1-0. Easily his best outing of the season and something he should be able to build on.

  533. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Leche lunging, lost…

    Wang withers, Eiland’s worry…

    Recovers, Yanks up…

  534. BBFan June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    I would like to see one more scoreless inning and pitch a quality start. That would build his confidence.

  535. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Yanks lose to the worst team in baseball. Boston would not lose to the lowly Nats. Disgraceful performance from NY.

    And Wang stinks it up again.

    ===============================

    :roll:

    need some cheese?

  536. Moose June 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    <>

    These comments are as usual written by our resident CMW apologist. What about the line drive that Pena made a nice play on that could easily have been a single? (and btw, on that tag play at 2B, that throw by Posada was not a strong one, Pena was hurrying to catch the dying ball AND sweep/apply the tag quickly b/c the throw was short and slowed down). And CB, that was NOT a single if Melky doesn’t dive, but at least a double it was smoked.

    But hey let’s all keep our rose-colored glasses on for CMW,I like him as much as anyone else and he does look better, but he’s still got a ways to go.

  537. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Good job Wang, I don’t care what the scoreboard says.

  538. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Wang right there did a terrific job of picking up his team.

    Ump makes a terrible call.

    Melky has a brain freeze.

    The offense looks awful so every run counts.

    Man on third and one out – and he induces two ground balls and strands the runner.

    Excellent pitching.

  539. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Hey splatcutter what’s your gig. Nowhere when the Yankees won 100-0 on Sunday come around yesterday to kick dirt as soon as the Nats take the lead and leave as soon as they get it back. Now you appear the second the Nats go up? You are a troll and a lousy one at that. Disappear please. Nobody believes your act.

  540. vin June 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Can someone give me a progress report on Wang? I’ve been in a meeting the whole game (not like Sterling would give me a good idea of what was going on anyway).

    Thanks.

  541. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    And Boston well on their way to another victory tonight. They take care of business, unlike the Yankees.

  542. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    whoa, when are they going to say “enough is enough”?

  543. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    “Tom, I’d like to see Wang get through this inning with no more than 1 run scored…..MAYBE another, but I suspect that couldf be pushing it. Either way, I would assume Phil sees some action tonight.”

    Right now, I’d say Wang’s been better than most of AJ’s starts. Without Melky’s idiot play and a correct call at first, Wang probably would have made it into the sixth allowing two runs.

  544. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Wang was fairly good tonight. He got unfairly killed in that las tinning by stuff beyond his control like Pena’s dropped throw and the horrible call at first.

    At the very least, it should be 5 IP 2 ER right now because of that call at first, but again, it will come down to our offense.

    Can we score 3 runs off the worst pitching in baseball? If they lose tonight, it certainly won’t be Wang’s fault.

    How about our offense decides to show up before the 7th inning for once?

  545. Joe Mama June 17th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Terrible call cost the Yankees a run

  546. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Wang’s only trouble was having to fight the hitters, his defense and the umpires. Score should be still 1-0.

  547. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “This is what Wang has ALWAYS done with men on base. He gets nervous and throws meatballs. This is what Wang is.”

    This guy is a troll. Don’t even give him your time. He pretends he’s a Yankee fan but never shows up when they win. PUT ON IGNORE.

  548. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “Pena made a nice play on that could easily have been a single”

    Jeter makes that play easily, because he has about a foot on Ramiro.

  549. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “enough is enough” of what? what the heck are you talking about?

  550. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Robbie!

  551. Serf June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    lol at the Nats no hitting the Yankees.

    Oh wait. LOL HOME RUN WHILE I TYPED THAT.

  552. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    And there’s the no-no…

  553. igotid88 June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Whoohoo

  554. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    let’s work on getting a hit

  555. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Thank you Robinson!

  556. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Its about time.

  557. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Whew thought they were going to get no hit.

  558. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    yea robbie!!!…lets go offense…support the wanger!

  559. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    we got a hit!

  560. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Yeah, no hitter gone! Robbie trying to pick up his buddy CMW.

  561. mmx June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Wang is not at his best, but he is definitely coming back.

    Hughes should be up next inning.

  562. Baseball Fab June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    T ball!!

  563. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    and I need to type faster. Robbie!

  564. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    See a damn pitch Jorge. dammit

  565. Wes June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    “Jeter makes that play easily, because he has about a foot on Ramiro.”

    I don’t think so.

  566. S.o.S. June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    What is up fellas. Here comes yet another come from behing win.

    Did anyone else at first glance think that CB’S link to posadas throwing out runners said F-YOUK? Hell, i still think it says that. I thought CB was joking.

  567. Papa Smurf June 17th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Wang did a nice job. This was his best start this season. A bad call and the defense hurt him. Pena made a bad play on the steal and Melky made a dumb decision diving for the ball.

  568. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    However, if they don’t actually work Lannan, they won’t get to feast on the Ron Villonicious bullpen.

  569. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Pepitone,

    Wang is still not 100% there but it’s coming. Tonight he has his command but the usual movement and life on his pitches still isn’t quite there.

    He’s getting there however.

  570. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    “And Boston well on their way to another victory tonight. They take care of business, unlike the Yankees.”

    Shove it jerk.

    Why weren’t you here Sunday when the Red Sox took the pipe from Philly and the Yankees punished the Mets?

  571. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    wth is going on?

  572. beedogs June 17th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter: please go die in a fire.

  573. Ed H. June 17th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    You know, even though I’ve been a Yankees fan forever (1961), I’m listening to the Yanks’ radio broadcasts for the first time this year, using MLB.com. John Sterling is a travesty. Not only is he incompetent at doing play-by-play, and not only does he emit the most laughable affectations during the games, but the arrogant creep treats his broadcast partner like dirt. Why do the Yanks tolerate this guy? Certainly, Mel Allen he’s not.

  574. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    ““Jeter makes that play easily, because he has about a foot on Ramiro.”

    I don’t think so.”

    Okay, 5 inches. His arms are also longer.

    How about fouling some pitches, guys?

  575. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    So THAT’S an out, but the other play was not.

    Okay, got it.

  576. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    That play he just called Melky out on was as close as the play with Johnson.

    These umpires are an embarrassment.

  577. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Lannan is at 60 pitches, they won’t even get the BP unless they start to work the count. But seems Lannan is a strike throwing machine against the Yanks.

  578. Moose June 17th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    BTW, I am quite encouraged by CMW’s performance tonight, he can be a good pitcher with the stuff he is carrying tonight, just not ready to paper over the reality as Pete loves to do. Let’s count the litany of excuses: Yankee rehab plan is responsible for his horrible start, the contract ‘mistreatment’ is to blame, he misses Guidry (most laughable of all), he has not been used right, too much off-time, etc. No self-respecting GM/manager could have done a better job with CMW given the circumstances (a uneventful spring training where he looked good enough to all of us) and then shockingly, the worst starting stint in league history. As a fan, why is it so hard to keep both things in balance, that is, we badly root for him to do well yet recognize that he has created doubts with historically bad performance that required drastic measures?

  579. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    How annoying are the Yanks right now with the impatience at the plate?

  580. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Not a terrible outing for Wang….here’s Phil.

  581. Chichelli June 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Pena is a rookie. He’ll learn. That one play he jumped up for was pretty good. Like when Cervelli didn’t hustle enough to 1st base. They’ll learn.

  582. kaseya June 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    pete, you make me sick. crack on the offense all you want, but they could go hitless for wang’s next three starts and still not be anywhere near letting him down the way he let them down.

    or blame the umpires. whatever works for you.

    your boy looked mediocre. at best. i hope it’s the last we see of him.

  583. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Phil, nice!

  584. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    This is probably the right move. Let Wang have a solid outing and a reasonable pitch count.

    Lannan is just pitching extremely well. It’s not like they are chasing balls and taking meatballs. He’s moving his fastball all around the zone. There’s not much they can do. You’d think, based on his career, he’ll eventually make some mistakes and the Yankees can get back in the game.

  585. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Time for Youuuuuuuse

  586. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    I didn’t think Wang was that bad tonight. I hope they give him one more start to prove. Even if Hughes is doing well.

  587. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Good life! Oh now I understand baseball thanks John!

  588. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 17th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Did Wang kick a dog in your presence, Kasey?

  589. Yogi8 June 17th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Melky is horrible.

  590. RenataD June 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Do you think its possible Girardi was just bluffing about Wang? Just to get him going?

  591. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Phil has the curve working

  592. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Now lets get some damn runs…

  593. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Boy, Phil looked good……

  594. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Melky should have dove for that.

  595. vey June 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    *Thank you Phil.*

  596. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    He could never put Wang out of the rotation after that outing. Defense didn’t help him. Posada did his 5th inning lack of magic. Umpire blew a few calls.

  597. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Betsy all you like is Phil!

  598. kaseya is a loser June 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    kaseya is just wailing cause Wang did better than he expected. what a loser, insulting Pete for no reason. Ban the moron.

  599. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    How many pitches do we see this inning?

    4, 6, 8

  600. Dave June 17th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Anyone else notice A-Rod’s arm was really wrapped/bandaged up?

  601. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    2 pitches so far

  602. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Damn, my tv went out. Its pouring. Just awesome!

  603. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    TAKE SOME DAMN PITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!

  604. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    pete, you make me sick. crack on the offense all you want, but they could go hitless for wang’s next three starts and still not be anywhere near letting him down the way he let them down.

    or blame the umpires. whatever works for you.

    your boy looked mediocre. at best. i hope it’s the last we see of him.

    ===================================

    Are you serious?

  605. Dave June 17th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    elbow i should say

  606. Papa Smurf June 17th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Pena swings at the first two pitches. Lannan pitch count is ridiculously low.

  607. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Wang probably had a good outing for a guy who went through the stress of having his first son born and thinking about this do or die game. He was probably gassed before he started from being exhausted mentally and physically. Probably why his velocity was down.

  608. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Lannon is what Ian Kennedy could be

  609. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Tell me John. What kind of stuff do I have?

  610. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Carl, huh? Ok, Phil looked terrible – is that better?

  611. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    ““This is what Wang has ALWAYS done with men on base. He gets nervous and throws meatballs. This is what Wang is.”

    If you find a single statistic to support that, I promise to keel over and die. It has to be a career-long trend, not one season.

    Ready….GO!”

    Tom,

    I don’t have the exact stats (if I’m wrong, please correct me), but I do know that with men on base, the avg against Wang is around .300 while it’s only around .240 or so with bases empty. The guy chokes and the stats will back it up. BTW, that isn’t counting this season.

  612. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    he wouldn’t have had 3.

  613. the truth June 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    The person posting as Mo’sflatcutter is the fake one, ignore.

  614. Bret the Hitman June 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Wang will be back to throwing quality starts in no time. The big picture here is the 10 groundball outs. There was only 2 hard hit balls- the one by Dunn and the Nick Johnson hit to CF.

  615. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    kaseya June 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    pete, you make me sick. crack on the offense all you want, but they could go hitless for wang’s next three starts and still not be anywhere near letting him down the way he let them down.

    or blame the umpires. whatever works for you.

    your boy looked mediocre. at best. i hope it’s the last we see of him.

    —————

    That’s such an amazingly stupid stance. They need Wang back and they are a much better team with Wang pitching like Wang.

    This is a team that spent $82M for AJ Burnett and Wang has a better track record.

    Wang earned himself at least one more start. You can book it.

  616. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    splatcutter I thought you were told to find a fire somewhere.

    LEAVE NOW MORON TROLL.

  617. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    For all of Dukes’ ability and potential, that is one dog I want nowhere near Yankee pinstripes.

  618. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Wang was o.k.

    I look at it as I looked at one of Joba’s early starts. He built up arm strength and didn’t give the game away. He’ll get there.

  619. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    HA! I just figured out who Lanan looks like – Gomer Pyle!

    We’re getting shut out by Gomer – SHAZAM!

  620. Dave June 17th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    SWISHER SUUUUUCKS

  621. cliff June 17th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    lannan is great in fantasy. check out his era and whip. easily the best pitcher the nats have!

  622. beedogs June 17th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    nick they give you a bat for a goddamn reason

    maybe swing it next time?

  623. igotid88 June 17th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Tex sucks

  624. C June 17th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    the is VERY SAD INDEED

  625. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    uhhh

  626. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    corny $hit

  627. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Phil Hughes, lightning loose…

    Restores order, one, two, three…

    Yankees threat thwarted…

  628. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Looking at the Yankee bench you can see there is not a lot of Life.

  629. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    9 outs to score 2 runs (hopefully)…they need to try to get lannan out next inning if possible (78 pitches)…if the pen keeps it here i think they have a legit shot..

  630. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Okay- I am home now. Lets get back to my genius idea to bring a trophy into the Subway Series-

    Someone told me earlier today they used to call the Yankees vs. Mets the Mayor’s Cup. I like the name. Keeping with tradition we should call the Subway Series trophy that.

    I propose from now on, the winner of the Subway Series be awarded the Mayor’s Cup as well as bragging rights.

  631. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    I just got back from the meeting. My daughter’s watching “Chess” on the “good” tv. How did CMW do? Will he get another start? How many pitches? Did he look confident on the mound? Did he get flustered with men on base? He lasted 5?

    This site has not really been working for me all most of the afternoon.

  632. vey June 17th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Wang left with 91 pitches,this guy at the bottom of the 6th has only 78.What happened to working the count?

  633. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Everyone who thought Wang was a problem should look at the real problem:

    Our joke of an offense.

    How many games are we going to go out there and get shut down by mediocre pitching?

    The bats never show up before the 7th inning. If they played 9 innings rather than 3 these games would be no contest.

  634. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Can someone recap for me what happened in the inning please? My tv’s out due to a bad thunderstorm.

  635. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Line up for you Lithium doses.

  636. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Wang showed definite improvement. As Pete said, if the ump gets that call right at first and melky doesn’t screw up he gives up 1 or 2 runs, not 3. He will stay in the starting rotation for sure.

    The bottom line is, it doesn’t matter who was starting tonight, Lannan looks pretty amazing. The offense has to produce more than 1 run against this guy.

  637. CB June 17th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    That Swisher at bat was a great example of the limitations of guys whose offensive value lies in getting on base via the walk while hitting for a lot of power and striking out.

    Man on second and one out. Swisher will not expand the zone at all. Not one inch.

    And he winds up taking strike three.

    “Take and rake” guys like Dunn and Swisher are better than their battting averages suggest but they are limited in context players, particularly with men on base. At some point you have to stop passing the baton and actually drive in a run with a hit.

  638. G June 17th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    they have to start swinging on the first pitch. No use of taking the strike.

  639. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    From skimming a couple of posts I see Hughes is in and did well in his inning? Really well? And Robi hit a HR – is it the only hit?

    Is the other guy that good, or…?

  640. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Canseco to sue MLB and the MLBPA. Here’s the money quote:

    “Because I used steroids and I came out with a book, I was kicked out of the game, but I have not been inducted into the Hall of Fame,”

    What does that even mean?

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

  641. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Swisher’s at bat was disgraceful. That pitch was above the knees and over the plate. With a RISP and 2 strikes, you HAVE to swing at that pitch and at least foul it off.

    Taking a 3rd strike called from a guy who throws 89 mph with a RISP is just a terrible at bat.

  642. RS June 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    The BA’s of all the players are plummeting. Just a short while ago Damon, Posada, and Melky were hitting around .310, and now they’re all down to the .280′s. Arod is at .220 and Matsui is at .250.

  643. Todd June 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    I am not a big Swisher fan…

  644. Wow. June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    What a play by Tex. Beautiful.

  645. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    omg tex

  646. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    “How many games are we going to go out there and get shut down by mediocre pitching?”

    How many times have we asked this question in the last 10 years and then made the playoffs. You may have an idyllic image of the 90s teams beating up every pitcher, but even the 1998 team had bad games.

    What a play by Tex!

  647. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    How can Mark Teixiera NOT win a Gold Glove this year

  648. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Patrick -

    Thanks.

  649. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    SCOREBOARD UPDATE

    Boston cruising to another ho-hum victory, leading the Marlins by a 4-1 score. Nothing fancy, just an easy win against a bad team…the way you win divisions.

    Meanwhile, the dead Yanks lose to the worst team in all of baseball at home.

    It’s not too hard to see why Boston will win the division.

  650. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Teixeira is better then Youkilis. He should win the gold glove.

  651. Wow. June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Some of you are just outrageously negative and pathetic. Get a damn grip.

  652. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Looked like Guzman slid over the bag and Pena tagged his back leg before it touched second. Another bad call but at least this one I understand.

  653. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Nice play

  654. Dave June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    bring in Villone!!

  655. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    That’s another bad call. Guzman was straddling the bag when he was tagged. He overslid the bag and was not on it when he was tagged. I don’t care for this umpire crew.

  656. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    “Taking a 3rd strike called from a guy who throws 89 mph with a RISP is just a terrible at bat.”

    Swisher’s OBP is almost .400. That’s amazingly good. That’s Giambiesque. I’m pretty sure he knows balls and strikes better than you do.

  657. Adham June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    did Kay just grunt? haha

  658. S.o.S. June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    He was probably gassed before he started from being exhausted mentally and physically.

    ——–

    Wang didnt have the baby, his wife did. I can recall both of my wifes delivery watching games on the television and her getting pissed off. The vulgur language did hurt my feelings though but didnt gass me. She wasnt even gassy.

    Anyone think he might have been watching a western with Jesse James while Miss Wang was having lil Wang?

  659. BBFan June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    On that play was it necessary to tag the runner at second. Normally not, but out at 1B was made first.

  660. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Hmmm…where was the 2-1 pitch?

  661. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    “Yankees losing to the Nationals will easily be themost disgracful performance of the year just make them a Triple A team”

    http://saraschaefer.com/ss/middle_finger.jpg

  662. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Melky Cabrera you fail at humor

  663. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    By all reports prior to this game Lannan is not a mediocre pitcher, he is the best on their staff, no?

    Which is not to say I’m happy to see the Yankees not having much offense here.

  664. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    That’s filthy.

  665. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    “Mo’sflatcutter
    June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    SCOREBOARD UPDATE”

    Dumbass Alert

  666. Peter Abraham June 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Just a word of advice to “Melky Cabrera.” Posting assorted nonsense not such a good idea. If you don’t have something intelligent to add, don’t post.

  667. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Hughes looking goooood!

  668. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    That was a freaking baller pitch by Hughes.

    Dropped the hook right into the strikezone and he struts off the mound before the ump even calls it. This guy is good, we will be seeing a lot of him in the future :)

  669. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    nice phil!!…LETS GO BATS!!!

  670. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    kay: “zimmerman lookin heat all the way, and hughes dropped a deuce on him.”

    lmao

  671. Pat M. June 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    3-2 Jelly leg breaking ball….Wow

  672. vey June 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    PHIL is hungry for a place in the rotation,he’s smokin.

  673. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    wow, what a curve to Zimmerman……

  674. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Doreen – Been to the New Stadium
    June 17th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
    From skimming a couple of posts I see Hughes is in and did well in his inning? Really well? And Robi hit a HR – is it the only hit?

    Is the other guy that good, or…?

    ————————————————————

    Lannan is a second year pitcher, and, regardless of the league, he’s a very good pitcher. A 3.51 ERA coming into the game isn’t anything to sneeze at. He may throw a bit harder than Aceves, but, he’s that kind of pitcher. He’ll look just fine in pinstripes in about 3 or 4 years. A born Yankee fan.

  675. Todd June 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    $20 fee to join Red Sox nation………..what a bunch off geeks!!!

  676. S.o.S. June 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Is it just me or has Phil become FEARLESS in the pen? That was flat out nasty!!

  677. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    SCOREBOARD UPDATE

    Boston cruising to another ho-hum victory, leading the Marlins by a 4-1 score. Nothing fancy, just an easy win against a bad team…the way you win divisions.

    Meanwhile, the dead Yanks lose to the worst team in all of baseball at home.

    It’s not too hard to see why Boston will win the division.
    __________

    once again shut up!

  678. CB June 17th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Phil Hughes needs innings this year. There’s no doubt about it.

    At the same time there’s little doubt that the experience he’s getting throwing to and getting out major league hitters out even if it’s out of the pen.

    He ripped off that curveball and the minute it left his hand it looked like he knew the batter was going to be out.

    He looks terrific.

  679. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Wang definitely needs to stay in the rotation, but I wish Hughes could come into some games where the Yankees are leading by 1 or 2 runs. He has been one of our best relievers, but we’re wasting him in blowouts and losing efforts.

  680. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    A coralling Tex…

    Senators swings and misses…

    Hughes, hat over heart…

  681. Bryan June 17th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Worst pitching in the majors and the Yankees can’t buy a hit

    PATHETIC

  682. G June 17th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    One of my 2 favorite pitchers on bad teams: Lannan and Zach Duke. They throw strikes, not much you can ask for.

  683. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Honestly, the Yankees are 37-27 with their ace of two years pitching way below replacement level, their best all-around player hitting .222 and missing a month, and a bullpen that sometimes is very iffy.

    They’ve done much worse with better situations.

    I’ve got a good feeling about this year.

    Does anyone else remember the year the Orioles absolutely tormented the Red Sox, winning like 12 of the 19 games? It happens to them too. But the Yankees do seem to have particular trouble against mediocre NL teams. There’s not much logic to it.

  684. Kaseya June 17th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Bottom line: another Wang start, another loss. He ought to be out of chances. This team deserves a starter who doesn’t put them in a hole every start. Nice guy or not, Wang is awful.

  685. Dave June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    “Some of you are just outrageously negative and pathetic. Get a damn grip.”

    Standard operating procedure around these parts.

  686. Josh from NC June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Phrase,

    nicely done on the image for Flatcutter lol

  687. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Hughes i will be enjoying your curveball for years to come.

  688. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    I am confused-
    Is Bruney still hurt??? What’s this about ligament damage? Is he going on the DL?? Did he get sent to Dr Andrews as well???

  689. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    man i cant wait till arod gets going again…he needs to fast just for his own sake so he can stop hearing the boos

  690. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    This freaking guy is going to pitch a CG. Our lineup better figure him out quick because they aren’t going to see Washington’s crappy bullpen

    A-rod really sucks right now, it’s pretty sad. The fans though are even worse. It’s pathetic to boo your star player when he’s going through a slump. What a joke some new yorkers are

  691. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Arod is becoming the worst player in baseball

  692. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    He’s pulling everything.

  693. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Hey, this is how I see it -

    CC pitched well, Bruney pitched well, and Mo was his usual lights out last night.

    Wang pitched well, and Hughes is looking real good tonight.

    Even if the Yanks lose, I’m good. Pitching wins championships, and the Yanks pitching is starting to show signs of life. I’m not worried at all about the offense (except maybe Arod).

    And besides, the Nats have to beat somebody sometimes. Farmer plays all night he’s bound to win a hand, besides this kid Lannan would beat the Red Sox with his stuff tonight.

  694. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Kaseya didn’t you get banned???

  695. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Bottom line: another Wang start, another loss. He ought to be out of chances. This team deserves a starter who doesn’t put them in a hole every start. Nice guy or not, Wang is awful.
    ___

    What did wang do to you?

  696. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Why is Coke even warming up? Stick with Hughes, he’s only thrown 24 pitches and his stuff is sick nasty

  697. mmx June 17th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Wang deserve a spot in the rotaion, and Hughes too. The problem is Wang is a veteran, so Hughes stay in the bullpen, as of now.

    As long as Wang is back to his form, Yankees won’t sign a 37 years old Andy for another season, then the rotation problem solved.

  698. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    GB7 -

    Thanks much. :)

  699. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    4 pitches 2 outs.

  700. randy l. June 17th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    kasey-

    just curious . do you ever enjoy baseball?

  701. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    why does it seem like the middle game of every series, the yankees get completely held down by a B level pitcher?

  702. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Bottom line: another Wang start, another loss. He ought to be out of chances. This team deserves a starter who doesn’t put them in a hole every start. Nice guy or not, Wang is awful.

    Get a grip. These are the Nats and the offense has done NOTHING. 3 runs given up is not an insurmountable hole especially with this stacked line-up. If it’s a loss, it’s not on Wang alone.

  703. Dutch Hugo June 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Kaseya: “Bottom line: another Wang start, another loss. He ought to be out of chances. This team deserves a starter who doesn’t put them in a hole every start. Nice guy or not, Wang is awful.”

    We have TWO hits. With this offense, if you give up a run before the 6th you’re putting us in a hole. Get a grip. Wang gave up 1 in the 4th and 2 in the 5th.

  704. GardSpeed June 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Teixeira for MVP

  705. vey June 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    With his low pitch count,this pitcher may stay until the 8th.Why change,Yankees are hitting.

  706. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    “Your retarted, your retarded, were down 2 at home against the Nats and there terrible pen, the game is not over”

    Yes, Joshy, the game is over. This is Yankee baseball…lazy and uninspired. I will accept my accolades from you, Joshy, when the game is over and NY is 3 games out.

  707. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    u can not comeback and in everyday

  708. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Wang’s ERA is now 12.65
    Hughes is down to 4.89

  709. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    man i cant wait till arod gets going again…he needs to fast just for his own sake so he can stop hearing the boos

    __________________

    Nah, Alex needs to hear the boos. He’s only a professional baseball who has been playing almost all his life. If it weren’t for the boos he wouldn’t know he failed to get the job done.

  710. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    I agree that Phil is learning a whole lot more from facing major league hitters than he would dominating minor leaguers. It’s a fine line the Yankees are walking with this kid. He’s got the stuff to be a very, very good pitcher…..but he needs innings and he needs a 3rd pitch to truly live up to his potential. I don’t think he can play winter ball (no AZ Fall league) because he’s got too much ML service time……What do the Yankees do? We don’t want to be in the position next year where Phil, as a 5th starter, is still struggling to master a 3rd pitch (can’t learn that on the big league level without sacrificing games) and also has severe innings limitations. I love what I’m seeing from him out of the pen – Phil should take this aggressiveness to the mound with him when he returns to starting. He won’t throw 94-95 as a starter, but he doesn’t need to – he’s got terrific stuff at 92-94.

  711. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    The Nationals are strong at the corners with Zimmerman and Johnson.

  712. CB June 17th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    I really hope Girardi isn’t going to pull Hughes to put Coke in the game to get a lefty lefty match up with Dunn.

    Hughes needs the innings and looks great.

  713. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    :(

  714. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Every ball hit is right at someone. Lannan isn’t even breaking a sweat.

  715. Adham June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    god!!! Wang won 19 games!!! Twice!!! I really don’t get why people are giving up on him…he is improving!! have some Patience. sure he was horrible in some starts, but he has the stuff, his command is just off.

  716. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Bottom line: another Wang start, another loss. He ought to be out of chances. This team deserves a starter who doesn’t put them in a hole every start. Nice guy or not, Wang is awful.

    ================================

    Holy crap. Have you even been watching the game?

  717. King Brian June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Lannan at 91 pitches.

    No doubt he will come back for the 8th.

    The worst pitching staff in baseball shutting us down.

  718. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    wang pitched fine. the offense is embarrassing. one 15 run game doesnt make up for the 3 hits off pitchers that others beat down. sure they may win in the 9th like usual, but that wont get it done forever.

  719. KO June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    This could be the Yankees first loss of the season when holding the opponent to three runs or less. I guess they couldn’t go undefeated in that category. Every other team in baseball I’m pretty sure as at least one loss when holding the other team to three runs or less.

  720. vey June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    What a pathetic effort by the Yankees here,losing to this team is unacceptable,no excuses.

  721. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Our offense is a JOKE.

    They can beat up on all the crappy pitchers they want, but then they go out in games like tonight and get shut down by guys like Lannan.

    Their approach is awful. All the first pitch swinging is disgraceful when you know the other team has no bullpen. Why don’t you just stand there and run up his pitch count so you can feast on the pen? It’s just so stupid, especially when you’ve never seen the guy, to hack away at everything.

  722. Same Old June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Pete, you need to ask some tough questions to these hitters as to why they mail in every game against an unfamiliar pitcher. This guy is atrocious and they look helpless, as usual.

  723. pat June 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Who has had more hits in their last 20 ABs, Tex or Alex?

  724. S.o.S. June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    One thing iv learned in these first 7 innings. You dont need to be a flame thrower to get big league hitters out. LOCATION. LOCATION. LOCATION.

    Oh and Alex forgot that he wont get fined if he hits a ball to the right side.

  725. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Reposting:

    Can someone give me a progress report on Wang? I’ve been in a meeting the whole game (not like Sterling would give me a good idea of what was going on anyway).

    Thanks.

    (Just a nutshell would be fine)

  726. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    What the hell? Coke?

  727. BBFan June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    I think A-Rod is not healthy, his hip is bothering him.

    When you watch him swing, it is all hands and he is not rotating his hips.

    Also, look at how he runs to first. He literally labors and is out by a wide margin.

  728. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Coke is warming up and Phil’s pitched all of two innings, lol. Great way to keep him stretched out…I know Girardi’s rationale (there must be a lefty coming up to start the inning and that is “cokey’s job” to get him out).

  729. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    man i cant wait till arod gets going again…he needs to fast just for his own sake so he can stop hearing the boos

    ____

    No, Alex needs to hear the boos. He’s only a pro baseball player. He needs the fans to tell him when he doesn’t produce or he’d never know.

  730. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    did they move pena?

  731. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter
    June 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    SCOREBOARD UPDATE
    Boston cruising to another ho-hum victory, leading the Marlins by a 4-1 score. Nothing fancy, just an easy win against a bad team…the way you win divisions.
    Meanwhile, the dead Yanks lose to the worst team in all of baseball at home.
    It’s not too hard to see why Boston will win the division.
    ……………………………….

    Gee, I thought you had to be in first place at the end of the year. I didn’t know you could win the division in June. Thanks for the heads up.

  732. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    another rookie starter tomorrow shoot me.

  733. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Girardi is a dope
    Hughes was cruising and he needs to throw as many innings as possible.

    Seriously dude get a clue

  734. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Coke in? eh.
    Wish he left Youuuse in, but whatever

  735. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    You should NEVER lose a game at home in which you allow 3 runs. NEVER. Especially when you play in a HITTER’S BALLPARK.

  736. Mark June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    This is why the Yankees are a bully offense

    15 runs against Santana…and NOTHING in the 3 games sorrunding that one. Got shut down by Fernando Nieve, Sharion Marthis, and John Lannen.

    The team just lacks killer instinct. They underestimate their opponent and show up when they want to.

  737. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Actually, if anyone looked above- Lannon doesn’t have a bad era coming into this game. His W/L is just out of whack cause he is on a crappy team.

    Plus, the kid was really hopped up coming into this game because he is from Long Beach and has a ton of family & friends there

  738. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Arod…by far, the worst “great” (LOL) player in the game.

  739. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    “Your retarted, your retarded, were down 2 at home against the Nats and there terrible pen, the game is not over”

    Yes, Joshy, the game is over. This is Yankee baseball…lazy and uninspired. I will accept my accolades from you, Joshy, when the game is over and NY is 3 games out.
    _________

    Three games out in June, season over, why even bother playing the other 2/3s of the season

  740. Every No-Name Gets em June 17th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Pete: “Lannen is throwing a gem.”

    Question: Why should he be any different than every other scrub pitcher (especially lefties) the Yankees have never seen?

    I for one am getting really tired of the Yankees making every no-name pitcher they face for the first time look like Sandy freakin’ Koufax.

  741. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Don’t worry guys. The important thing is not the game, it’s that Wang did okay. He showed massive improvement. A dropped ball by Pena and a bad call away from a tie game.

    Lose the battle, win the war.

    But if the bullpen comes in, all bets are off.

  742. Serf June 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Chien-Ming Wang being a candidate for Player of the Game. My day is complete.

  743. The Ironhorse June 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    “Long Beach”???

    Are you even from the area?

  744. phrase June 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Anyone can win a game any night. As long as the Yankees take this series we should be happy.

    FLATCUTTER is a Red Sox fan freak. He starts crying and says he loves the Yankees but that’s so he can keep coming around and kicking up crap. Don’t worry though. Never here if Yankees win or ahead. Never here if Red Sox stink out the joint. Probably medicated strong on Sunday when the Phils KICKED THE CRAP OUT OF BECKETT AND THE SOX and the YANKEES SCORED 15 RUNS AGAINST THE METS.

    Hope he gets bounced by Pete.

    He doesn’t go away if you ignore him but until he gets his troll wings and flys out of here maybe we just ignore him.

  745. Every No-Name Gets em June 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    BTW, somebody needs to get the word to the Yankees hitters to KEEP TRYING TO PULL EVERYTHING!

    It’s bound to work eventually.

  746. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules)-You’re right.

  747. Yanks 172 June 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    We missed the playoffs last year because we were under .500 against the Rangers, Royals, Tigers, Indians, Pirates, and Reds.

    This team is picking up right where they did last year. Unable to hit a junkballer young pitcher to save their lives and have way too many games where they just don’t show up.

  748. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    I don’t care how bad the Nationals are. For fans (and worst the media) to act like its a given that the Yankees should manhandle them is crazy.

    I don’t like to see the Yankees lose but should they lose this one it will be funny to see the silly ranters’ heads explode.

  749. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    The Ironhorse
    June 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    “Long Beach”???

    Are you even from the area?
    ****
    Actually, I live 5 minutes from Long Beach. What’s your point?????????

  750. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Blue Jays demolishing the Phillies again 7-1.

    Hmmm, I seem to remember the Yankees not being able to score much at all against Philly.

  751. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    phrase-You’re right.

  752. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Girardi is treating Hughes like a reliever. Not as someone who needs innings.
    And if I’m Cashman I would send Hughes down to Scranton tomorrow. Because your manager doesn’t know what ‘he needs innings’ means.

  753. CB June 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    “Even if the Yanks lose, I’m good. Pitching wins championships, and the Yanks pitching is starting to show signs of life. I’m not worried at all about the offense (except maybe Arod). ”

    Pepitone,

    Your exactly right. That’s the big picture. Wang was fine tonight. Not great but that’s no big deal. He’s not going to be why this team lost tonight if in fact it doesn’t come back.

    They need their starting rotation to stabilize and get on a role.

    Tonight was a step forward. If Wang reverts to form then everything on this team changes from where it has been.

    If Wang is in the rotation they have the luxury of using Hughes as a multiinning reliever out of the pen.

    A bull pen of Mo, Bruney, Hughes, Coke, Aceves and Robertson is going to be a good one. That will be a huge step forward because Hughes looks so good. And they still have Hughes in tow in case of injury (e.g. Andy).

    If Wang gets back to where he was and Burnett can step it up this is a very dangerous team.

  754. KO June 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    listen to wait til they come to our house….

  755. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    What a bunch of morons you all are. John Lannan is hardly a scrub pitcher. Right now he’s sporting a 3.32 ERA, that’s damn good no matter what division you are pitching in.

    The offense looks bad right now but a lot of that is due to Lannan dominating.

  756. Every No-Name Gets em June 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    @ Wait till they come to OUR house…

    You can’t be serious about the “massive improvement.”

    Did you not watch this game? The guy made mistake after mistake after mistake.

    He was every bit as erratic with the cutter tonight as he was in his previous two starts, the Nationals just aren’t good enough to take advantage.

  757. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    But it’s not the whole staff, it’s one pitcher, Lannan, who’s doing a great job tonight. Apparently, he’s throwing strikes?

    And if I’ve learned anything from listening to the Yankees post-game after a loss it’s that when a guy is “pounding the strike zone” and “getting ahead in the count” and is “strike one” all the time, the Yankees have trouble.

  758. Dave in MD June 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Nationals are playing .250 baseball, .200 on the road

    On pace to be the worst team in baseball history

    If they make a couple routine defensive plays yesterday, we would have lost a series to them AT HOME

  759. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    IGNORE FLATCUTTER

  760. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    The same typical BS. “Rodriguez isn’t hitting….he’s the reason they’re losing. He hasn’t hit all month.” Take a peek at the box score. Better yet, take a look at the monthly numbers of this lineup. Cano is leading the team at .293. Teixeira is next at .280. Jeter is hitting .308. Hard to make a case for Gardner, Pena or Cervelli. They have 18, 15 and 9 at bats. Nobody else is hitting over .250.

  761. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Trevor, in my opinion we need bullpen arms more than Hughes needs innings. Other pitchers have gone into and out of the bullpen and not been too affected by it. Hughes can be a very valuable bullpen arm.

  762. S.o.S. June 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    This just in!!!

    SELIEG AND THE UNION HAVE JUST AGREED TO EXTEND MLB GAMES TO 9 INNINGS…

    So we can still comeback!! Yes!!

  763. vey June 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Well when you know your’re on the worst team in baseball.YOU can feel better about yourselves,and pick up easy wins at Yankee stadium ,NO PROBLEM.

  764. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    so now what? they saving it all for last 2 innings?

  765. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    @ Wait till they come to OUR house…

    You can’t be serious about the “massive improvement.”

    Did you not watch this game? The guy made mistake after mistake after mistake.

    He was every bit as erratic with the cutter tonight as he was in his previous two starts, the Nationals just aren’t good enough to take advantage.

    _______

    Wang throws a cutter? really? I don’t think Wang knows that, you should tell him.

  766. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    i have to agree, how do you not take pitches to get to a pen that is flat out awful?

  767. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Dave in MD-Them not making the plays is the reason they’re so bad.

    I seem to remember games lasting 9 innings, in case I’m mistaken.

    I don’t get why people get so upset when we win “playing bad baseball”. No team plays great baseball all the time, it’s a good thing we’re playing our worst baseball (still pretty good) against the worst teams as opposed to the best, Sox series nowithstanding.

    A win is a win.

  768. Tennore June 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    While at first glance it may seem good that Wang is coming off an injury not involving the arm, this injury should serve as a benchmark for foot injuries, that just because it is not elbow/shoulder related it is not insignificant. It is just taking Wang a while to get back right. It sure is a good thing to have enough pitching to let him get back in shape now instead of trying in August or September. It is a long season. Go Wanger!

  769. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Trevor, exactly right – Joe is truly clueless….thing is, I have no idea if Cash “gets” it. Did you read the comments he made in the Times a couple of days ago? Cash said Phil has done a “nice” job. Robertson gets a fantastic and Coke gets a “he’s done very well”. I don’t think so – Coke has been up and down.

  770. jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Does anyone consider that maybe this kid is throwing a good game? No credit though right.

    And why are the Yankees announcers on the bandwagon of Nick Johnson to the soxs? I think Mike F started it. Since we all know what a huge sox fan he is.

  771. joe June 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    lannon isn’t that bad of a pitcher. he came in to this game with a better ERA than CC

  772. Jones June 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    I don’t know about Gardner, but I think Cervelli, and Pena have been great. Not too many mistakes coming from them. Impressive.

  773. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Thank you Marck Can’t Touch for sparing me from responding to that post.

  774. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    CB -

    In your opinion, why did Girardi take out Hughes? He was in a nice little groove there, and he needs the work, I don’t get it.

    My only guess is he wanted to give Coke some work too. I don’t know, he’s the manager he knows more about this team than I do.

  775. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    I’m really getting tired of these stupid degenerate fans booing arod. These fans make me sick. He has zero support…Pathetic.

  776. G June 17th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Yankees pen looks good.

  777. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Hughes has done tremendously.

  778. tyler June 17th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    i think its time to score a few runs… bottom of the lineup though. PLEASE GET ON!

  779. Gary G June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Nats are the worst team in baseball. You cannot just give away these games

    A good team will sweep them away. You think Boston plays even a competitive game with this team? They win all the games by routs.

  780. CB June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    “in my opinion we need bullpen arms more than Hughes needs innings.”

    That may be true but on nights like tonight it’s really unclear why Girardi couldn’t do both – why he couldn’t give Hughes another inning giving how well he’s throwing the ball and how little he’s pitched recently.

    I suppose you could say Hughes has had trouble with lefty hitters this year and Dunn is coming up.

    But most of those stats were generated when he first came up and struggled.

    Hughes looks very different right now and he could have gotten more work.

  781. Dutch Hugo June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Time to wake up, you brain-dead ass-swingers!

  782. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    CB, look at how Phil has been used. 24 pitches tonight? He won’t pitch again until maybe Andy’s start…..and that’s a maybe (and at most it would be 1 inning). 2 innings? So much for the Yanks stretching him out. Why was it necessary to go to Coke here in a losing game? Forget Coke – Phil looked great and he needs to pitch. It’s a joke – and I don’t see how he can be a spot starter now at this point.

  783. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    I just got in, someone tell me why Wang only has 5 IP next to his name ? and how far was the Dunn HR ?

  784. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    coke struck out the side. joe g knew something. hughes will be more of a pen guy as wang continues to get better. hughes will do what we need him to do. he will start next year, so its all good.

  785. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Get those rally caps on. Get cracking bats

  786. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Ellsbury just homered, 5-1 Sox

  787. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Hughes should of just finished the game. A few more of these 1 or 2 inning outings he won’t be be able to throw more then 80 pitches whenever he starts again.

  788. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    ONE PITCH!!!!!

  789. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    I think this might be, if they lose, the first game they lose allowing less than 4 runs.

    Okay, take a goddamn pitch, Matsui!

  790. G June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    I think Girardi wants to use him more. If he wastes 3-4 innings on him today u wont see him for another five days. We could see in the next series now, probably the first game. He’ll look good as a reliever. his velocity is 95.

  791. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    one pitch one out..

  792. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    I’d be quite surprised if this pitcher doesn’t go all nine innings, if you take him out even w/one out to go the Nats pen is so bad, all bets are off.

    1 out.

    Sorry, I do doubt we’re winning this one. I think this guy is going all the way.

  793. tyler June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    and u swing at the first pitch… make him work and get into their bullpen. Is it that complicated

  794. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    1 pitch one out

  795. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    ONE PITCH.

    ONE OUT.

  796. Boston Dave June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    A 2-run lead can disappear quickly.

    Just wish they could have gotten Lannan out of the game and gotten to the horrid bullpen.

  797. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Um, Hideki.. :?

  798. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Can we please score runs? Lannan is good, but he has a 6.50 ERA on the road, and the Yankees never score just 1 run at home!

  799. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Kind of knew Lannen would shut them down and win a game for Washington.

  800. Dutch Hugo June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Jennifer, it’s hard to give credit to the pitcher when this happens over and over and over to this offense. After awhile giving credit to the pitcher is a little like crying wolf.

    Time for some 9:30 thunder…

  801. KO June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Ok, our offense has been good this season, but that is a really poor job by Matsui right there. He has to be taking on teh first pitch. If you swing against this guy 1st pitch, u damn well better make sure u get a hit. They have to get this guy out of the game. Stupid, stupid at bat by Hideki.

  802. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    guys be positive. they are doing just fine. taking pitching, beating the nats, scoring without the homerun…

    everything is perfect.

  803. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    The kid pitched a complete game shutout against the Mets last time out. Give him credit for doing a good job and move on. Yankees aren’t destined to win every single game of the season. Bad teams can beat them the same as good teams It’s one game. Tip your cap if it’s what you need to do for once.

    That’s if they lose.

  804. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Terrible call

  805. Eleven June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    You are not going to come back every night

    As bad as the Nats pen is, they can have a good night as well.

    The team just didn’t show up today. Embarrassing that they didn’t support their pitcher.

  806. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Matsui, swatting,

    Moth with cowhide wings, rises

    Dying in the light…

  807. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    And that’s not a strike…ugh.

  808. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    wow, this is bad, Lannan has a 2 hitter going here!

  809. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    HORRIBLE CALL

  810. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Go root for Boston.

  811. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Coke’s job is to get the lefty out……..that will be Joe’s answer. He’s a robot when it comes to this kind of stuff and he simply has zero vision when it comes to Phil. Too bad Cash won’t step in.

  812. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Why the hell is Pena hitting?

  813. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    jennifer June 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Does anyone consider that maybe this kid is throwing a good game? No credit though right.

    ——————

    No Jennifer, no credit. :) Its much easier to think someone is a garbage pitcher simply because they’ve never heard of him.

    Kid is pitching well. And the Nationals DO win a game here or there. People around here are acting like they have been swept in every series they’ve played this season. And the Yankees might be the first team to lose to them.

  814. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    You guys are hilarious. Do you have any clue how bad Washington is? And just how bad a road team they are?

    They are going to beat the Yankees at Yankee Stadium. They wouldn’t come close to winning a game at Fenway.

  815. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Keep it close Coke and the Yanks are just a bloop and a blast away from tying it up.

  816. CB June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    “In your opinion, why did Girardi take out Hughes? He was in a nice little groove there, and he needs the work, I don’t get it. ”

    Pepitone,

    I think it was classic match up baseball managing.

    Girardi put a great deal of stock in setting up Lefty-Lefty / Righty-Right matchups.

    You can see it from the way he constructs the line up (Cano hitting 5th instead of posada who is a much better hitter).

    He took out Hughes becuase he wanted to set up a lefty lefty matchup with Dunn. I think that was the driving factor.

    Dunn and the second lefty due up that inning. It was conventional, contemporary match up managing.

  817. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    As I mentioned previously, this kid would be beating the Red Sox with the stuff he has tonight.

    Sometimes pitchers are going to be lights out. I wish it weren’t the Yankees, but that’s baseball.

  818. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Lannan is going for the CG

    As good as he’s been the offense has been really pathetic tonight.

  819. daver June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Terrible at bats all game…

    Here is a hint:
    Take pitches…except strike 3!

  820. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    phrase you have the right idea.

    Bad job by Pete for putting this idea of “we have to sweep” in the troll’s heads.

    Acta’s a moron if he doesn’t let this guy finish the game, he has a guranteed win.

  821. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Lannan is dealing. Perhaps he’s not a “scrub?”

  822. Boston Dave June 17th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    top of the order for the Yanks in the 9th

    maybe ARod can turn things around in a big way

  823. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    sure lannon is pitching pretty good, but the yankees are bending over and giving him the game.

    take some pitchesl, besides the ones that are strike three, since they seem to be taking lots of those.

  824. Soda June 17th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Do the Yankees realize they are not good enough to just show up and play when they want to?

    Just embarrassing that they can’t match the intensity level of a Nationals team that has played with no passion all year and is going to fire their manager.

  825. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    I like the second half of your name phrase.

    People would be wise to listen to it.

  826. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    “The kid pitched a complete game shutout against the Mets last time out”

    Was that the C Met lineup or with Reyes Delgado?

  827. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    I do not care one bit how “good” Lannan is.

    The Nationals bullpen is TERRIBLE.

    So what do our brilliant hitters do? They swing at the FIRST PITCH, keeping his pitch count LOW, allowing him to go DEEP, and not even SEEING the pen pitch.

    These guys are unbelievable. I don’t care if they score 15 runs on Sunday, they scored 1 run tonight and 5 last night, of which only 2 were legit runs. So really, 3 runs in 2 games against the NATIONALS. That’s just DISGRACEFUL.

    This team is not going to lose because of their pitching. They always lose when their offense decides not to show up. Who cares if the pitching gives up 3 or 30 if they score ONE?

  828. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    you gotta give it to lannan…he has given it everything he has…the guy throws first pitch strikes and doesnt sway much after that…its hard to work the count when your always 0-2 and 1-2…that said they should have more than 1 run and 2 hits…does magic reside in the bottom of the 9th with damon swisher and tex?…maybe

  829. David (In Seattle) June 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    After all the early problems with Wang, I think the hitters went into the game expecting to lose and went into hibernate mode

  830. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Wow. That was just terrible.

    Lannan’s pitched a hell of a game. His next best start came against the Mets. He’s a Long Islander. Maybe it’s just fate. In any case, assuming they don’t rally in the 9th, and with this team, by no means am I counting that out, Joba goes out, throws strikes, and the Yankees find a way to win tomorrow, either by bludgeoning the Nats to death or eeking out a win. It’s not style that counts.

  831. KO June 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    LOL @ these umps…. complete BS…. i mean that is a good 4-5 inches off the plate inside… 3-2 count Ump has to be on top of his game… absolutely absurd, is he trying to get the game over with or what? Melky earned a walk that AB. I’m tired of these umps missing easy calls. It simply shouldn’t happen as often as it does. Sure the Yanks should overcome them probably, but it’s not even a fair playing field sometimes. Pretty gross.

  832. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    good news!!!!

    history shows us the yankees should score 15 tomorrow.

  833. Dutch Hugo June 17th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Hey Fat Nosepicker, do you have any clue that this is baseball, not college football or the NFL? They play 162 games, and even horrible teams win one out of 4.

    Go back to your momma’s basement, troll.

  834. CB June 17th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    “Just wish they could have gotten Lannan out of the game and gotten to the horrid bullpen.”

    This was the major failure of the yankees offense tonight.

    Lannan is a pretty good pitcher.

    But to let him stay in this game on that low pitch count is bad baseball on part of the offense.

  835. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    “A good team will sweep them away. You think Boston plays even a competitive game with this team? They win all the games by routs.”

    We’ll never know because Boston won’t face Lannan, and he’s far and away the best pitcher the Nats have.

  836. daver June 17th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    “top of the order for the Yanks in the 9th

    maybe ARod can turn things around in a big way”

    I’m putting my money on Tex

  837. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Matt, sadly, you are a moron.

  838. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    I don’t see us winning this one.

    Maybe we make it close but A-Rod’s not hitting, Tex is in a slump, heck everybody is in a slump.

    That’s baseball. Happens.

  839. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    G, Joe doesn’t use Phil – he never does. Great, he pitches an inning or two here and there. There is absolutely no reason why Phil couldn’t have pitched another inning or two – it’s just a ridiculous waste. Phil is being treated like Tomko or our other garbage relievers.

  840. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    can the yankees be retired any faster this is just getting sad another rookie tomorrow if they get shutdown agian i dont know what to say.

  841. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    YANKS LOSE TO THE NATIONALS!! HOW HUMILIATING TO BE A YANKEE FAN AND HAVE THEM NOT EVEN TRY, ALL THE WHILE BOSTON GIVES A GOOD EFFORT FOR THEIR FANS.

  842. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Aceves has been a really nice suprise. He’s filling the old Ramiro Mendoza role nicely. He can pitch a few innings, or come in in the 8th.

  843. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Betsy, he did a pretty good job in relief from what I see. It looks like they are building up Coke’s confidence.

    This game is over but these are the type of games when you talk to these posters who say Matt Holliday would do this for a lineup, all I hear Sterling say on radio is Robi had the lone HR for the Yankees and that they need 2 more of those…this lineup needs to learn how to score w/o just the HR.

    IT IS A MUST.

  844. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    The most embarrassing thing about the Yankees,is you paid
    2million dollars to look this bad,bwaaaaah.

    Nobody fears the Yankees. You haven’t won a world series since you broke the 100 million mark,a joke of A TEAM.

    THE gas bag Ace CC,threw more pitches,and BY 8th had to come out,this guy,has only thrown 100,in the 8th,HE OWNS THE YANKEES!!

  845. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    SOMEONE SPIKED THE YANKEES GATORADE WITH AMBIEN!

  846. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Lannan pitched a complete game 4 hitter against the Mets 11 days ago. This kid really likes showing off for the folks at home huh?

  847. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    The most important thing from this game to me is Wang’s performance. I do think he is on the right path, though it would be nice to see continued improvement in his next start.
    But I do feel better about him.

    This game is on the offense and Lannon is doing well. Give him credit.

    Maybe we can get something going in the bottom of the 9th

  848. Joe June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Hughes is a reliever as long as he is in the pen.

    How many relievers do you see pitching 3 innings?

    Wouldn’t you rather save Hughes to pitch some high leverage innings rather than wasting his innings when we’re losing?

    This isin’t a mop up situation where Wang got bombed after 2 innings.

  849. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    OH COME ON!

    Give it to Lannan? Are you serious?

    This is the $200 million team at HOME, in a HITTER’S BALLPARK.

    Lannan has not been outstanding tonight by any means. Our hitters are swinging at garbage pitches early in at bats and GIVING him outs.

    When you know the other team’s bullpen is terrible, how about you actually try to GET INTO IT? 100 pitches in 8 innings is just pathetic.

    The Yankees GAVE Lannan this one. Again, they did not show up early in a game or against a bad team.

    The only thing that’s consistent about this team is its lack of consistency.

  850. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    I hope we win just so Guissepe Franco could make his morons list, w/a special section specifically devoted to flatcutter.

  851. JC in DC June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Do these guys seem totally disinterested?

  852. Laszlo June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    I went to high school with Lannan, though he was three years behind me. People that knew him said he was a really good kid.

  853. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    For those they want to know what kinds of pitches there are and how they react and who throws them, here’s a good article. I’ve seen questions asked by a lot of people….men and women. Hope it helps somebody.

    http://www.tangotiger.net/files/sirkodiak.html

  854. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Lannan HAS been outstanding tonight.

  855. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Lanahan lingers…

    Taming titans of baseball…

    Not night yet, ninth waits…

  856. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    CB -

    “It was conventional, contemporary match up managing.”
    ………………………..

    Yeah, and I am not a fan of that type of management style. I thought Girardi would be more of a creative, aggressive, think outside the box kind of manager.

    i was wrong.

  857. Mrs. Kekich June 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Tell Burnett to ge tthe cream pie ready. No way the Nationals are winning this game.

  858. Larry June 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Stop it with the “the Yankees can’t hit anybody they haven’t seen before” nonsense. Remember Porcello? Derek Holland? Matt Harrison? All of these guys who the Yankees hit hard. Of course not. We’re incapable of remember anything that happened over a week ago.

  859. Joe June 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Every game is different. I know it’s not good to lose to the Nats, but tomorrow, Joba and the Yankees will do well against that plant (Stamen, Stammen?).

    You never know, they might come back in the 9th.

  860. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Why is Joe wasting pitchers on a lost game?

    Pay checks don’t win games,and NEITHER DO THE YANKEES.

  861. Pat M. June 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    I’ve never seen this kid Lannan throw before, but he was very impressive tonight…He throws to the mitt, paints inside and paints outside…Most imporantly he keeps the ball down…..They rough him up in the 9th…..

  862. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    anyone ask mo;s flatcutter what the records are for yankees and sox not against each other?

    sox 8-0 vs ny
    2 games up.

    basically, yankees have a better record against the rest of baseball.

  863. Boston Dave June 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    “Lannan is a pretty good pitcher.

    But to let him stay in this game on that low pitch count is bad baseball on part of the offense.”

    ———
    Exactly.

    You beat weak teams by exposing their weaknesses.

    The Nats biggest weakness is their pen.

  864. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    “Lannan has not been outstanding tonight by any means. Our hitters are swinging at garbage pitches early in at bats and GIVING him outs.”

    What game are you watching, Matt? When they don’t swing at the first pitch, Lannan drills the corners twice with changeups and fastballs. This is a Boomer Wells performance.

  865. Patrick June 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Ugh I can’t stand it in here anymore. 90% of the posters are trolls are downright stupid. Enjoy the rest of the game, I’m outta here.

  866. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Maybe because some of the pitchers in the BP need work!

  867. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    “I don’t see us winning this one.

    Maybe we make it close but A-Rod’s not hitting, Tex is in a slump, heck everybody is in a slump.

    That’s baseball. Happens.”

    Isn’t happening to the Red Sox. They don’t seem to be having much of a problem beating teams they should beat.

    But the Yanks can’t muster up enough energy to beat the Nats?

  868. KO June 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    The Yankees faced Matt Harrison last season, fyi

  869. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    I really hope the Yankees don’t lose by 1 run, because that would mean the blown call by the ump in the 5th inning cost them the game.

  870. SD Yanks June 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    And Boston is pounding a Florida team that is 10x better than the Nats

    That’s why they are a championship caliber team. They always take advantage of the freebee games on the schedule and get fat on the bad teams. They don’t mess around and think they can just show up and win. They are focused and execute every game whether its the Yanks or Marlins.

    If this Lannan kid faces Boston in Fenway, he gives up 6 runs.

  871. Baseball Fab June 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Everyone chill, we got this thing, book it.
    Remember we have the little league fence in right and the jet stream, one handle hit pop up is all it takes, and the opposition is terrified of us in the bottom of the 9th so chill

  872. Boston Dave June 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Comeback #23…. coming right up?

  873. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    “Yeah, and I am not a fan of that type of management style. I thought Girardi would be more of a creative, aggressive, think outside the box kind of manager.”

    Not sure if that style lends itself to the NY market, but I too agree.

  874. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    I must admit, Larry, I was quite surprised to hear that rookies are 3-18 against the Yankees in the last few years. But you are right.

  875. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Acta is a moron, I repeat, if he doesn’t keep this guy oit there. That’s a guranteed win.

  876. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    3 behind Yankees by the end of the week 5 behind,believe.

  877. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Whoa! Illegitimate runs? So we have wins that are disregarded because they don’t come against the “right” teams and now illegitimate runs. Wow.

    I give up.

  878. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Oooh the payroll/ salary arguments. We’ve hit the bottom of the barrel.

  879. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Also i live in my mom’s basement

  880. Boston Dave June 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    “Ugh I can’t stand it in here anymore. 90% of the posters are trolls are downright stupid. Enjoy the rest of the game, I’m outta here.”

    ——-

    anymore?

    when was it not like that?

    game threads = cesspool

  881. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    I really see us losing this game tonight.

  882. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    As well as Lannan may have pitched, having the team with the worst bullpen in baseball and allowing him to pitch into the 9th is just disgraceful.

  883. Tom in N.J June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    :mrgreen:

  884. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Damon!

  885. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Yeah Damon!!!

  886. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Hmmm…that’s one back.

  887. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    I’LL TAKE IT!

  888. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    No blown call by ump = tie game.

    How frustrating.

  889. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    YAY!! For Johnny Damon

    My pretend boyfriend dtrikes again

  890. Dev June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Philly is not a great team. They are the 2nd best in the NL, but that isin’t saying much.

    We made them look tougher than they were. Not a surprise that teams like Toronto and Boston are having their way with them while we almost got swept at home by them.

    Toronto and Boston will each sweep Washington too, guarantee it. Tampa already did.

  891. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    One inning to get 3 runs not going to happen,it took 4 innings to get one.

  892. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Matt June 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    OH COME ON!

    Give it to Lannan? Are you serious?

    This is the $200 million team at HOME, in a HITTER’S BALLPARK.

    Lannan has not been outstanding tonight by any means. Our hitters are swinging at garbage pitches early in at bats and GIVING him outs.

    When you know the other team’s bullpen is terrible, how about you actually try to GET INTO IT? 100 pitches in 8 innings is just pathetic.

    The Yankees GAVE Lannan this one. Again, they did not show up early in a game or against a bad team.

    The only thing that’s consistent about this team is its lack of consistency.

    —————–

    It’s people like you and those who can’t wait to boo A-Rod at the Stadium that makes Yankee fans among the worst in baseball.

    Everything is NOW NOW NOW and you don’t have any patience at all.

  893. joe June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    comin’ back already.

  894. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Okay down by one. So far the ump blown call looms large.

  895. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    CUT, Umm, Johnny, you were supposed to hit the bloop and Teixiera the blast! Now let’s try this again.

  896. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Isn’t happening to the Red Sox. They don’t seem to be having much of a problem beating teams they should beat.

    But the Yanks can’t muster up enough energy to beat the Nats?

    HA.

    boston lost two of three to minnesota,two of three to seattle, two of three to mets, two of three to oakland.

    yep win them all.

  897. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    oh boy, please take Lannan out and let us hit their ‘pen!

  898. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Look there just doesn’t have to be this much LOHUD drama when the Yankees are behind in a game.

    We knocked Padilla and the Rangers on their butts and Padilla and the Rangers made Matsuzaka look like a monkey on a stick. It happens.

    Be gracious. It’s a team in the majors. Get over it. It’s baseball.

  899. Boston Dave - Comeback #23, please June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    keep the faith

    top of the order for the Comeback Kids

  900. mmx June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Damon homerun!

  901. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    i was a yankees fan before 2004 and Redsox fan after

  902. daver June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Tex should bat left and aim for that short porch

  903. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Damn tease Swish.

  904. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Come on Swish! Stop swinging for the fences!

  905. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Man I just knew swish had that!

  906. Dr. Cox June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Not gonna happen tonight,

    Sorry OPPC.

  907. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Please don’t tease us!

  908. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    damn we’re swinging for the fence, we’re gonna fall short.

  909. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    I still have a bad feeling about this one.

  910. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    the nationals announcers are so sad.

    taunting the players?

    your team is 16-46.

    keep your pie holes shut.

  911. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    “anyone ask mo;s flatcutter what the records are for yankees and sox not against each other?

    sox 8-0 vs ny
    2 games up.

    basically, yankees have a better record against the rest of baseball.”

    Very true, but the Yanks haven’t even been to the west coast a single time yet and Boston is all done with that part of the schedule. And I know Yankee fans remember just how lousy NY plays on the west coast. This was the part of the schedule that should have favored the Yanks and given them a division lead. But it didn’t, and they don’t, and they will only fall back, back, back from here.

  912. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Should be a tie game now. Taking nothing away from Lannham, because he’s kept us to 2 runs. But it should be 2-2, because of the bad call at first.

  913. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    “i was a yankees fan before 2004 and Redsox fan after”

    No kidding. Couldn’t tell.

  914. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter
    June 17th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
    YANKS LOSE TO THE NATIONALS!! HOW HUMILIATING TO BE A YANKEE FAN AND HAVE THEM NOT EVEN TRY, ALL THE WHILE BOSTON GIVES A GOOD EFFORT FOR THEIR FANS.
    …………………………………

    Seriously, are you for real?

  915. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Johnny Damon swats…

    Moth with cowhide wings, rising…

    Soaring in the lights…

  916. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Lets go Alex!!

  917. The Ironhorse June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Down 1 run and Swisher swings at the first pitch. What happened to his patience? Terrible at bat.

  918. daver June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    it always comes down to Arod

  919. Boston Dave - Comeback #23, please June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    ARod! ARod! ARod!

  920. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    oh no

  921. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    2 more out for 2 runs,bwaaaah

  922. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Lannan is being hung out to dry by a desperate manager trying to save his job.

  923. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    PR Gardner I assume…

  924. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Gardy now… Al hasn’t been swinging right at all.

  925. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Pete Abe can you get rid of this Red Sox troll freak named Flatcutter? He’s just here to make trouble.

    Thanks

  926. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    A-Rod is grounding into a DP.

    Sorry, nothing to do with not clutch, I think he’s very clutch, he’s just ice cold.

  927. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Okay

  928. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter
    June 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
    i was a yankees fan before 2004 and Redsox fan after
    ***
    This is the very definition of a bandwagon fan

  929. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Brandon, Coke is ok – but he’s not a reliable piece in the pen yet. He’s just too up and down for me…….He’s not bad, though. I still see no reason for him to be in the game when Phil needs innings.

    Joe, Phil hardly pitches……what high leverage situations do you see him in? He’s basically being saved for Wang’s starts……

  930. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    get Jeter off the bench to pinch hit here! please Girardi,for the Love of GOD!

  931. Baseball Fab June 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Well I called that little league HR OK now we win!!

  932. Mrs. Kekich June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Manny Acta is a moron. Yankees win THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Yankees win!

  933. Rishi June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    uh – arod?

  934. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    in swish’s defense of the 1st pitch swing, he nearly sent it out. just missed.

  935. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Great game by Lannan. How long until he’s a Yankee. I say a minimum of 3 years.

  936. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Why go to the pen? A-Rod was looking silly against that guy.

  937. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    A healthy, hot A-Rod obliterates Mac. Right now, I’m not so sure. As long as he doesn’t ground into a double play…

  938. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Lannan. I can spell.

    Speaking of…they’re pulling him? Really? Wow. Acta’s playing with fire here.

  939. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    flatcutter, FINALLY, the truth is out!

    Dude, we all knew it. Why didn’t you admit it earlier?

  940. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Arod up. Maybe he can finally hit one of those FBs down the middle that he’s been popping up lately.

  941. mmx June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Another dropped flyball for A-Rod?

  942. tim boat June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    a-rod up for the choke. wonder if the mental midget will curl up in a ball and cry when he gets booed

  943. Boston Dave - Comeback #23, please June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    “Not gonna happen tonight,

    Sorry OPPC.”

    ———

    so far this season, the Yanks are more likely to come back than any other team.

  944. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    pinch hit jeter for a-rod.

  945. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    “Sorry, nothing to do with not clutch, I think he’s very clutch, he’s just ice cold.”

    Yup, I’d PR Gardenhoser right now, go get 2B force the bat out of his hands.

  946. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Ironhorse-

    What were you saying questioning if I know the area????

  947. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter
    June 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
    Also i live in my mom’s basement

    ————————————————————

    Somehow I doubt it, but, if you do, it doesn’t say much for your parents that they’d let neighbors know that they have a trolling loser like you for a kid.

  948. Don June 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    As Yogi said, “It ain’t over till its over!”

  949. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Donnie-playing w/fire?

    Let’s burn him.

  950. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    why does it always come down to A-Rod?? hate when that happens

  951. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Tom – this freak told us the other night the last thing he’d ever be is a Red Sox fan and that he was just a disapppointed Yankee fan.

    HE IS A PHONY. DON’T BOTHER.

  952. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Sometimes having A-Rod around is like living and dying by the sword.

  953. Maria June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    PLEASE DON”T GIDP ALEX, PLEASE.

  954. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    I’m rooting for a win, but damn, poor Lannan if this backfires.

  955. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Al doesn’t hit walkoffs at night either.

  956. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    If Arod grounds into a DP I might scream.

    Now that 5th inning really hurts us. If the ump had rightly called Guzman out at 1B OR Melky had kept Johnson to a single, the Yankees would have tied the game already.

  957. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Arod will hit a double play.

  958. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Teixeira at first,

    Lannan leaving, leading now…

    A-Rod to the plate…

  959. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    note to alex, do not swing at the first pitch. let gardner steal 2nd first.

  960. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Take the walk Alex

  961. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    this is not for the faint of heart

    i’m gonna pass out

  962. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    These situations always finds Arod.

  963. tyler June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    i live in MD so i have to listen to these nats announcers… they are the worst in the history of sports

  964. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Yikes Alex… not a good pitch to swing at.

  965. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Alex, don’t swing at junk.

  966. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    WTH AL ?

  967. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Alex showing classic GIDP signs.

  968. daver June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    what are u swinging at arod

  969. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    What is he swinging at?

  970. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Wow, Alex is down to .219? Geez.

  971. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    So much first pitch swinging at crap out of the zone.

    How about Gardner at least TRIES to run this time so we stay out of the DP?

  972. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    STOP SWINGINGAT THE FIRST PITCH!!!

    why doesnt girardi stop him from swinging.

  973. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Arod will u stop swing at balls down on ur ankles?

  974. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    tex’s friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Isn’t happening to the Red Sox. They don’t seem to be having much of a problem beating teams they should beat.

    But the Yanks can’t muster up enough energy to beat the Nats?

    ———–

    Is that right?

    If they always took care of business against weaker competition – they would be more than just 2 games ahead of the Yanks despite an 8-0 record against them.

  975. tim boat June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Arod GIDP

  976. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    That freak was never a Yankee fan. Wake up Yankee fans.

  977. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Smart of the pitcher. Give Alex time to sweat.

  978. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Gardy needs to get to 2B force the bat out of AL’s hands, he doesn’t walkoff at night.

  979. Bronx Jeers June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Johnny Damon swats…

    Moth with cowhide wings, rising…

    Soaring in the lights…

    ————————-

    I like it

    but….

    Johnny Damon swats…

    The wall, so low yet closer?

    cheapies rule the night…

  980. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Gardner is soooo going. He’s twitching on every throw over.

  981. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    tyler i agree. they are so pathetic.

  982. Rishi June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    gardner needs to steal!

  983. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    if arod GIDP he will be killed tomorrow

  984. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    they will pitch out

  985. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Yankees struggle with good and bad teams,but the fans always have an excuse for the lose.

  986. dennis-costanza June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter.

    Please go purchase a Sebring converable. It may help the self esteem issues.

    Oh, and by the way, I am a Sox fan.

    -dennis

  987. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Darn that dude is FAST.

  988. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    If anybody could serve up a walkoff to an ice-cold hitter, it’s a post 2003 MacDougal.

    Gardner is a speed demon.

  989. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    SAFE???? wow!

  990. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    I love a bad pitch-out!

  991. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    That takes out the GIDP- good GGBG

  992. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    If you can take third take third.

  993. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    should we assume alex can get the rbi single?

  994. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    All right, so that rules out the DP. A bloop and a blast is what we need.

  995. joe June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    steals on a pitchout, dude they shouldn’t even try

  996. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    yeah now Alex can’t hit into a DP, that’s why they sent Gardner! He didn’t miss the sign this time! lol

  997. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Hey Gardner, they can’t even get you on a pitch out. Take notice, you can steal at will in this league.

  998. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Thank you Dennis.

  999. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Can’t tell because of the angle if his hand got in under the tag or not. And if not, at least the ump at second is consistently bad for everyone.

  1000. Nick in SF at SFO June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    I had to leave during the 5th. So it was one earned run each for Wang, Melky, and Pena?

    Everyone who didn’t already dislike Wang is happy with his progress tonight?

  1001. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    A sac fly will do now…

  1002. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Nice

  1003. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Whoa!!!!

  1004. Rishi June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter
    June 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
    Yankees struggle with good and bad teams,but the fans always have an excuse for the lose.

    ooooooooooooooooooooooo

    “lose” or “loss”?

  1005. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!! I LOVE GGBG

  1006. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    wooo bG!!!

  1007. lt June 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    anyone but a rod please …….. remember a couples games back i think sunday a rod almost hit into a triple play. he sucks and WOW gardner is the man

  1008. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    YESSSSSSSSSS.

    get it to the outfield alex.

  1009. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Brett Gardner is LETHAL.

  1010. Ed H. June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Please do not feed the trolls.

  1011. Pepitone June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    I”m a huge critic of Alex Rodriguez, I wish the Yankees had never signed him, but -

    To mercilessly boo him like the fans have been doing is unacceptable.

    He’s on my team, if he doesn’t do well, I sit on my hands, but I certainly do not boo him!

    He may be a multi-millionaire, but he has feelings too.

  1012. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    arod will not hit a fly ball he never has

  1013. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Can Arod hit a sac fly now.

  1014. CB June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Dennis,

    You are awesome. Sebring convertible. Good stuff.

    Your team’s playing great.

  1015. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    You could use this board for a LoHud version of “Where’s Waldo” and call it “Spot The Troll”. They are all wearing little striped shirts and pink hats.

  1016. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Gardner the speed demon!

  1017. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Just tie it up, no need for heroics. We can take on this Nats BP.

  1018. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Can Gardner steal home? I don’t trust Arod to get the run home any other way.

  1019. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    wow, Gardner, you go boy!!! lol

  1020. Bronx Jeers June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Come on Alex.

    Please do the right thing here and get him in.

  1021. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    AL dammit you know

  1022. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    HEART BEATING IN MY NECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1023. Sterling June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    5 pitchouts later….o wait that’s Gardner down at first.

  1024. joe June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    GGBG!

  1025. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    A-Rod just needs to focus now…

  1026. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    That was IT.

    Striking out.

    Sorry, he’s just too cold right now.

  1027. J-Dawg--Veintisiete en... let's try '09! June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Just shows you how much speed can change the course of an inning, Gardner is firmly in the Nationals’ heads.

  1028. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Oh lord. Two strikes? I like this not.

  1029. GardSpeed June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Go Gardner Go!

  1030. billlie June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    if a rod cant get the job done here when will he ever

  1031. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    dont take strike 3. pleaseeeeeeeeeeee

  1032. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    take the walk Alex!

  1033. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Steal home!

    Just joking. :-)

  1034. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    NOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo

  1035. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Brandon he’s been missing those FB down the middle last 3 weeks.

  1036. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    just hit a ground ball Alex, that’s all we ask of you and your fat contract right now!

  1037. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    So Joe’s playing small ball now to save face.

  1038. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    GJ Alex

  1039. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Cano needs to find his groove…

  1040. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Good AB Alex.

  1041. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Keeps the DP in order.

  1042. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Good job alex

  1043. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    GGBG can totally steal home. I know it

  1044. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    i’m feeling so woozy right here

  1045. Joe I June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    I hope Long can make a hitter out of Gardner, because damn can he run! As A-Rod works out a walk. That was close.

  1046. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    i wish the yankee announcers would knock on the nats announce booth and tell them to stop talking.

  1047. GardSpeed June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Steal home!!

    Not joking.

  1048. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Sets up the double play. :(

  1049. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    And here comes first pitch, all or nothing Robbie. If he GIDP’s, so help me Christ…

  1050. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    NO DP Dammitt PLEASE!!!

  1051. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Robi eh por favor ? fly ball lejo

  1052. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Should be fasciinating.

    I still don’t think they win it.

  1053. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    cano CAN get it to the outfield.

  1054. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Maybe GGBG can distract him into balking….

  1055. mmx June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Hit a single and we are at least even!

  1056. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    I’m feeling good…

  1057. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Alex needs to take 2nd

  1058. tyler June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    cano is a fast ball hitter… please hit it through a hole or in the air… NO DP!

  1059. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Why not steal home like it was done to Andy?

  1060. Rishi June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    ok – cano…think “tie”…”win” is bonus

  1061. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Aaaaaannnd 0-2.

  1062. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Robi looks overmatched

  1063. tim boat June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Cano up to swing at pitch 1 or pitch 2.

  1064. C June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    crap!

  1065. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    to the outfield

  1066. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Balk Mac! Balk!

  1067. GardSpeed June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Cano can put it deep

  1068. Nick in SF at SFO June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Had to leave in the 5th.

    One earned run each for Wang, Pena, and Melky?

  1069. Joe I June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    A wild pitch right here would be nice.

  1070. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    “Cano up to swing at pitch 1 or pitch 2.”

    He went 4-4 with that approach.

  1071. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    flatcutter, even Sox fans hate you.

  1072. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    do you have Arod steal 2nd and fall down now? I say yes, Gardner has happy feet no one is catching him, give him a shot.

  1073. Pat M. June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Alex just doesn’t look right to me….That 1-2 fastball was a tee shot for him…Hips seem slower than what they were just a few weeks ago…

  1074. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    not stealing home on a righty.

  1075. tim boat June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    seriously. sit down Cano. Swinging at the first 2 pitches….

  1076. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Cano makes me so nervous in a big spot.

  1077. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    think flyball Robi

  1078. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    In 2005, Robbie Cano whiffs on that pitch. He’s aggressive, but he’s still selective.

  1079. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Now CANO will strike out.

  1080. Erica - newly OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Imagine if Cano works a walk…

  1081. Wow. June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    who is tim boat and can he go away?

  1082. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Cano needs to be patient and wait for that quality pitch to turn the tide of the game.

  1083. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Once again, that was the pitch…

  1084. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    The pitch again.

  1085. joe June 17th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    this guy is throwing gas!

  1086. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Maybe NYY should try stealing a run by using Rodriguez going to second base and drawing a throw, with Gardner coming home.

  1087. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Whatever happens, great at bat Robbie.

  1088. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    He looks overmatched

  1089. tyler June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    my heart is goin nuts… c mon ROBBIE!

  1090. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    who are the gangsters behind home plate? the NY Giants? lol

  1091. Pat M. June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    GB, You lovin this ab ???

  1092. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Macdougal is probably wishing he had a breaking ball right about now.

  1093. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Make him work robbie.

  1094. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Each pitch Cano fouls off makes it that much harder to stay calm.

  1095. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    ALL the Yankees need Lasik surgery on the eyes.

  1096. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    getting closer to fair.

  1097. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    GreenBeret7-I was thining that.

  1098. CB June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    “Alex just doesn’t look right to me….That 1-2 fastball was a tee shot for him…Hips seem slower than what they were just a few weeks ago…”

    That’s the thing Pat – he looks worse than he did when he first came back.

    He’s just not generating any torque through his hips.

  1099. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Of course Alex doesn’t look right he has a bad hip and he admitted its stiff and he’s hoping when the weather warms up it will loosen him up.

    Do people think he’s 100%? Well I guess its his fault for hitting the first pitch he saw for a HR.

  1100. RS June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    “Alex just doesn’t look right to me….That 1-2 fastball was a tee shot for him…Hips seem slower than what they were just a few weeks ago…”

    He needs a day off. How many players in baseball would make an early return after major hip surgery and then play in every single game for more than a month?

    This would have been the perfect series to rest him, as the Yankees will lose the DH for the 9 games after this series.

  1101. terpbomber June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Damn.

  1102. Mark-Cant Touch This (Milk man Rules) June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  1103. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Knew it.

    I called it.

  1104. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Nooooooooooooo!

  1105. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    no way!!!

  1106. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    WOW fail!

  1107. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    you have got to be kidding me.

  1108. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Why did Alex not go for 2nd with Gardner at 3rd???

  1109. Tom June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Oh damnit…

    Sigh.

    Can’t comeback all the time.

  1110. tyler June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    OMFG!!!!

  1111. daver June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    the worst possible outcome. why didn;t they have arod steal 2nd???

  1112. Pel June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    horrible

  1113. Ari June 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    why not have Arod steal second there? If they try to throw him out, Gardner steals home.

  1114. tim boat June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    of course

  1115. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Not really sure why Alex wasn’t going on that, but them’s the breaks.

    Like Pete said, anything not a sweep is an embarrassment. Three games out looking bigger and bigger with every loss in a winnable game.

  1116. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Ohhhhhhh!

    What an at-bat by Cano. Very non-Cano. What a bad end to it. :(

  1117. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    This blog will be a cesspool, all Pete’s fault for saying we had to sweep!

  1118. grafxkid June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    saw that double play coming!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  1119. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Cano fails again with RISP.

  1120. Matt June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    DISGRACEFUL.

    ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL.

    There is no excuse ,just NO EXCUSE to lose a game to the Nationals at home, let alone one in which you had the tying run at third with less than 2 outs.

    RUNNER AT THIRD, LESS THAN TWO OUTS, AGAIN, AND THEY FAILED.

    All they had to do was hit it to shallow outfield and they couldn’t even do that. These are the games that cost you dearly when you are fighting for your playoff lives in September.

  1121. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    well good for Lannan, I have no problem congratulating him! good for him and his family, nice performace

  1122. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    No way a Boston player chokes his guts out and hits into a game killing DP. That is classic choking Yankee baseball. Cano cannot hit in the clutch.

    BTW, no way a Yankee reliever gets a big DP like that, either.

  1123. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    he looked overmatched on those fastballs you could just tell.

  1124. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Senators switching…

    A Gardner steals once–no twice…

    Almost, don’t ‘cha know…

  1125. Benny Blanco June 17th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    OUCH!!! that hurt.. But I knew we werent going to win all three games. we can still win the series. WE HAVE JOBA TOMORROW! Lets just hope he gets into a good rhythm..

  1126. Johan Halladay - When OPPC comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it June 17th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    OMG you guys, we almost tied it.

    Let’s try again tomorrow.

  1127. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    shocker, only scoring on homeruns.

  1128. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Pat M.
    June 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
    GB, You lovin this ab ???

    ————————————————————

    Yep. Right up until the end. Would have been the perfect spot for a favorite Billy Martin play to try suckering them into throwing to second, using Rodriguez as bait.

  1129. Carl June 17th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    First game we lost when only giving up 3 runs this year.

  1130. *Denise* June 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    well good for Lannan, I have no problem congratulating him! good for him and his family, nice performance..

    can we trade for him? lol

  1131. vin June 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Painful way to lose the game. Hottest hitter grounding into a DP play with the tying run on 3rd.

  1132. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    The invisible men do it again – it’s 10pm, have you seen the offense? Well, the Yankees are now 3 back of the Sox (who just keep killing teams). The Jays have pounded the Phillies……good job by the pinstripers tonight.

  1133. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Yankees lost to the worst team in baseball bwaaaah.

    3 games out,start the bragging NOW.

  1134. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Hay flatcutter, don’t you hae sewer water to drink or something?

  1135. Dutch Hugo June 17th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Still trying to claim you’re not a troll, nosepicker?

  1136. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    “shocker, only scoring on homeruns.”

    Don’t worry Matt Holliday in 2010 should change that :roll:

  1137. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Betsy how do you watch baseball? You get no enjoyment out of it.

  1138. yankeenate June 17th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Embarrassing loss. But your typical RISP result from the Yankees. A major difference between the Yanks and Red Sox is that the red sox demolish teams like this. They will roll through the NL interleague. Yankees play to their competition.
    Encouraged by Wang tonight–everything else is forgettable.

  1139. Rishi June 17th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    so what happened to all the people who said they would take the loss if it meant Wang performed well?

  1140. RS June 17th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Pretty disgraceful that the winning run for the Nats was scored by a guy who was OUT at 1B.

  1141. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I feel for Alex – maybe he needs another few days off. In any case, the guy had major surgery. Maybe we all were expecting too much, too soon as Alex may not be up to snuff for the rest of the year. He’s doing the best he can, but hey – if he’s not healthy, he’s not healthy. Fans should not say that 60 % of Alex is better than 100% of anyone else and then trash him when he’s not capable of doing more than what he’s doing.

  1142. DEBORAH - IM ABOUT TO BE AN AUNT! June 17th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    OH WOW, we lost to the WORST team in baseball at HOME. If that is not embarrassing, I don’t know WHAT IS!

  1143. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    yankeenate, the RS know how to score w/o the HR, this team is getting there, but they just aren’t there.

  1144. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    My comment at 4:42:
    I don’t care about how a loss might “look” tonight, I just want Wang to pitch well again. If we lose, that stinks, but if we lose 3-2, I won’t be upset. I’ll be more happy for Wang and what it means for the Yanks than upset.

    Hmmm. I also said Robbie would get cold… Well, I didn’t watch the game, so I don’t know, maybe he had a good game until that DP.

  1145. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Rishi, I said that and stand by it. Look it up, I said it not that long ago.

    This was tough, but I had a feeling we’d lose. Way too “perfect”.

  1146. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    “so what happened to all the people who said they would take the loss if it meant Wang performed well?”

    Rishi, I’m here. See my comment above.

  1147. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    For not winning many games, you might want to look at some of the teams they’ve beaten.

    Split W L RS RA WP
    ARI 2 1 15 15 .667
    ATL 2 4 20 25 .333
    BAL 1 2 11 11 .333
    CIN 1 2 7 9 .333
    FLA 0 6 25 45 .000
    HOU 1 0 19 14 1.000
    LAD 1 1 14 19 .500
    NYM 2 7 28 42 .222
    NYY 0 1 3 5 .000
    PHI 2 10 66 83 .167
    PIT 1 3 18 26 .250
    SFG 2 4 32 38 .333
    STL 1 2 12 16 .333
    TBR 0 3 10 17 .000

  1148. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Pathetic…and I’m talking about the so-called most knowledgeable and best fans. Players need to stop hyping the Yankee fans with those lies.

  1149. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    I expect to see Nick Johnson in a RS uniform pretty soon.

  1150. Frank June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    The only difference between this year’s team and the 2008 team is that this year’s team had their hot streak earlier than the 08 team.

    Like the 08 team, outside of that one hot streak, we have done nothing. Went through so many lackadaisical games where the offense just didn’t show up and they didn’t execute.

    Same story this year.

  1151. Pat M. June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    GB, I thought that maybe Giradi would have a delayed steal early in Cano’s count…..Maybe they pefer not to have A-Rod slide ????

  1152. Yankee Trader June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    If there was no plan for A-Rod to try and take second, let Berroa run for him, and hope to at least tie the game.

    Anyone think a squeeze play would have worked with A-Rod on first and the speedy Gardner on 3rd, or is McDougal too tough to bunt on?

  1153. Stop The Walks June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Folks lets not sugarcoat this….we lost to the Nationals. If the Sux lost to the Nationals (which they wouldn’t…they are busy torching FLA currently), we would laugh in their face.

    This is a JOKE.

  1154. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    This loss is so no big deal it isn’t funny. If the Yankees lose to a top team you scream they can’t beat good teams. If the Yankees lose to a bottom team you scream they can’t beat bad teams.

    Get used to the fact that the Yankees are going to lose some games. As long as they win series no matter who the team is they’re going to be fine.

    The most important thing is for Pete Abe to disappear that freak troll. He’s done it before. Email him and he’ll do it. We’ll win tomorrow.

  1155. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Repost: This blog will be a cesspool, and it’s all Pete’s fault for saying we had to sweep!

  1156. Thomo June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Calm down everyone – both Wang and Hughes pitched well. The bullpen did their job. And they didn’t quit – they came back in the 9th -but just fell short….

  1157. tim boat June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    for you whiners on the ledge, do us all a favor and take that next step off…

  1158. tex's friend June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    alex does need a day off. he is clearly not fully recovered or he has re-aggrevated his hip.

    cano was something like 8-9 over the last couple games and when it mattered most, DP special.

    It doesnt matter that is is June. If we end up behind boston or tampa by 1 game in october, remember we couldnt beat the nats at home. and look, we got into the pen and they stunk. ashame we didnt get to them in the 6th or 7th instead of the 9th.

  1159. Chi-Town June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    “I expect to see Nick Johnson in a RS uniform pretty soon.”

    Agree. And wouldn’t that just be salt in our already increasing wounds.

  1160. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Take that Yankee fans. A loss to the Nats. Red Sox rule.

    I am excited. Mommy promised me tickets to Fenway Park if I stop wetting the bed.

  1161. Nick in SF on United flight 889 June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Did that really happen? Cano G’d IDP to end it?

    ARGHGHGH!

    That eliminates us from the Rose Bowl.

    :mad:

    One earned run each from Wang, Pena, and Melky?

    It’s a process. Stay strong.

  1162. AZBob June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Another rookie pitcher making our all-star lineup look pathetic! Do we have any scouting or hitting strategies against against newbie pitchers.

  1163. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    If we win 2 of 3 it’s no joke.

    Stop overreacting to losing game 2 of a 3 game series. We won game 1.

  1164. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    “Painful way to lose the game. Hottest hitter grounding into a DP play with the tying run on 3rd.”

    You mean the streakiest?

  1165. Freeport June 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Pete said we had to sweep because he was right.

    This is the worst team in baseball history. Tampa swept them. You know Boston and Toronto will.

    Hell, Toronto and Boston both won series against Philly and we were lucky to win a game.

    We are just a complacent team.

  1166. yankeenate June 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Brandon,

    You’re right. Although the Yanks have won alot of games coming from behind, you would like to see better run production without the dependence on the HR and with RISP. Good thing is…I still don’t think we’ve hit our stride yet.

  1167. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    “OH WOW, we lost to the WORST team in baseball at HOME. If that is not embarrassing, I don’t know WHAT IS!”

    How about that some poor innocent kid is going to end up with you for an aunt?

  1168. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Stultus, what does streakiest have to do w/it? Even if you’re streaky that means that you have hot streaks.

  1169. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    ugh, losing the game on a double play is the absolute worst. kinda sucks the life out of everything :/

    it was a good game, lannon picthed great, the bullpen was great, and wang was a call or a catch away from only giving up 1-2 runs.

    go get’em tomorrow.

  1170. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Hughes is so gonna be stuck in that BP. They aren’t ready to deal talent and frankly I wouldn’t unless it’s a young OF and plus BP arm.

  1171. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    you know who is disgraceful…not the yanks…their fans…especially half the people on here…pathetic

  1172. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Freeport-You could just as easily say that the Sox only won once vs. the Mets and we won 2 of 3.

  1173. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    So that’s the best option the Yanks have for a number 5 hitter, huh? Someone who has NEVER been able to hit with RISP?

    Cano can hit with the best of them when there is no pressure, but turn up the heat and he folds like a cheap suit. And he’ll never improve in that aspect of this game, either.

    Now 3 games back and fading fast.

  1174. Mo'sflatcutter June 17th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Red Sox would never lose to the Nats. They kick bad teams when they are down.

    I don’t mind being called a troll. It’s better than zit face like I get called at school.

  1175. COL 88 June 17th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Guys, the Nationals are a very good team. Much better than their record. They have a ton of talent and are just underachieving right now.

    Nothing wrong with losing to a quality team like WASH. We gave a good effort… just came up short. Can’t waste opportunities against a team like this.

    We will be fine. We’re not going to face many teams as good as the Nationals this year, so we have to win those other games.

  1176. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Pete, if you’re reading, we have a troll.

  1177. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    AZBob
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
    Another rookie pitcher making our all-star lineup look pathetic! Do we have any scouting or hitting strategies against against newbie pitchers.

    ————————————————————

    Lannan isn’t a rookie. He’s been a damned fine pitcher for Washington since September of 2007.

  1178. RS June 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Can we please stop talking about how the Red Sox demolish bad teams? Their record against non-first place teams (not including the Yanks) is just 26-22. They have actually done far better against good teams than bad ones.

  1179. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Stop The Walks June 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Folks lets not sugarcoat this….we lost to the Nationals. If the Sux lost to the Nationals (which they wouldn’t…they are busy torching FLA currently), we would laugh in their face.

    This is a JOKE.

    ——————–

    WE didn’t lose anything. There is a big difference between sugarcoating and not slicing your wrist as you just off the bridge.

    Anyone who believes anything less than a sweep of the Nationals is some epic failure is stupid.

    I guess those dynasty teams never lost ONE game to a sub .500 team. And in another 10 years they will be remembered for going 162-0.

  1180. Mark June 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    TeixMVP – Are you kidding me? We should have LOST 2\3.

    The trolls are bad, but homers like you are even worse.

  1181. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    It really bothers me when the Yankees face a pitcher that is dealing and I can only remember on time in the game when someone even attempted a bunt (Pena) – if for nothing else but to get the pitcher moving around and out of his comfort zone. Arod’s hip must really be hurting these days because he didn’t even make the camera shot on the game ending DP – a healthy player would have been busting his but to try to break it up no? Also there is no way Bard would have thrown through if he had stolen 2nd in the ninth with Gardner on 3rd. Maybe you just need to tip your cap to Lannan and the Nats but I don’t think Terry Francona let’s one like this get away.

  1182. vtred June 17th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Stanmann or whatever his name is… another rookie we haven’t seen tomorrow

    And we see 2 more in Florida.

    Yipee!!

  1183. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Rishi -

    I’m here! :lol:

    I figured he’d give up 2-3 runs. Hoped he’d go into the 6th, he made it through 5. He threw 91 pitches. Not efficient, but it’s good he increased that number. All in all, I’ll take it. I was hoping against hope Cano would get a hit or fly ball there. Ah, well. Figured this game for a loss anyway. They win tomorrow, they take the series. And that’s the name of the game.

    And the only thing that’s embarrassing about the Yankees is fans that boo one of their star players who is clearly putting in 100% effort from a 75% body.

    From a lot of the posts here, either people are out and out trolls, or they should just go cheer for the Red Sox. They sure do enough of it here.

  1184. Rishi June 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    i’m just askin’…all the alarmist “season is over” was getting to be a bit much

  1185. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Wait til, drop Pete Abe an email and just give him a copy of one of the troll’s obnoxious posts. He’ll be able to block him. He might not read every post but I’m sure he reads every email.

  1186. Yankee Trader June 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    John Lannon is no slouch. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was added to the All Star team.

    Didn’t see Hughes pitch. What was his velocity?

  1187. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    This loss isn’t really bothering me.
    I was just very concerned about Wang today and I feel a bit better about him going forward

  1188. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    COL 88, you’re joking, right?

    Mark-are you referring to me, because people love to do that. So 2 things, moron:

    A) I am not TeixMVP.

    B) Homer is not an insult, it’s a word used instead of HR.

  1189. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    “You’re right. Although the Yanks have won alot of games coming from behind, you would like to see better run production without the dependence on the HR and with RISP. Good thing is…I still don’t think we’ve hit our stride yet.”

    I don’t want to overreact like some of these posters but it’s clear as day, w/o the HR they have issues in scoring w/ RISP, I was happy they forced the game on Washington, Gardenhoser atleast took the bat out of Al’s hands, Al isn’t 100 % at all, Robi pissed me off a bit b/c all we needed was a sac fly, and he swung for a ball that clearly would get a GIDP. That was the game.

  1190. Stultus Magnus June 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    “Stultus, what does streakiest have to do w/it? Even if you’re streaky that means that you have hot streaks.”

    Ok, that’s fair. Robbie was the hero yesterday and the goat today. Or one of the goats at least.

    I’m just happy Wang didn’t implode.

  1191. Cal June 17th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    The 2008 team has reared it’s head.

    I thought this was a different team because Burnett taught Wang Chinese and Swisher had a cool haircut?

  1192. Hank June 17th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    “If we win 2 of 3 it’s no joke.

    Stop overreacting to losing game 2 of a 3 game series. We won game 1.”

    Actually, it is, you goof. The Yanks are a huge joke for losing this game. Did you even pay attention to the Nats/Rays series? The Yankees are going nowhere if they can’t sweep the Nationals at home. Do you think Boston loses a single game to them? Do you even think a game would be close?

    Even Pete said a sweep was a must. This series is a failure, case closed.

  1193. saucY June 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    YankeeTrader

    “Anyone think a squeeze play would have worked with A-Rod on first and the speedy Gardner on 3rd”

    it was my thought. i just came to this thread and did a find on squeeze to see if i was crazy or not…

  1194. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Joba needs to shut the door tomorrow. Take 2 of 3 and move on.

  1195. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Here’s my HUGE issue. Cano should be benched tomorrow for not running that out. Didn’t Tex teach him ANYTHING?

    Cano will never be as good as Tex or Pedroia, not for the DP but for the lack of hustle.

  1196. Gates June 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    “I don’t want to overreact like some of these posters but it’s clear as day, w/o the HR they have issues in scoring w/ RISP,”

    That’s what it comes down to and that will be our downfall if we don’t fix it.

  1197. Rishi June 17th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    so – how many Yankee fans on here spend their free time on Red Sox message boards?

  1198. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Hank, sorry Pete, but since when was Pete always right?

    Sometimes bad teams beat you. That’s baseball. It happens even to the “great” Red Sox. Accept it and move on.

  1199. The Ghost June 17th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Does Wang get another start or does he go to the bullpen? I say bullpen. Hughes has been dealing out of the pen and Wang coming off that serious injury just doesn’t appear to have the stamina to go more than 5 even when he has good stuff. Why not keep him as the long man this year to build up strength and start fresh as a starter next year? This division is just too tough to keep giving away games hoping he’s going to find it.

  1200. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    There has to be another blog where the game threads aren’t constantly in crisis mode.

  1201. Ca$hmoney June 17th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Can the team stop trying to deposit the ball in right field every AB?

    The stadium not only has gotten into the pitcher’s head, it has apparently gotten into the hitters’ heads as well judging by their ABs.

  1202. Johan Halladay - When OPPC comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it June 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    OMG Why are you guys so upset?

    We almost tied the game with less than two outs. We almost stole one from the Nationals.

  1203. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    “Anyone think a squeeze play would have worked with A-Rod on first and the speedy Gardner on 3rd”

    No. B/c the DP is still there and the talk would be how do you bunt w/ Robi when he really isn’t a good bunter. They loss b/c they couldn’t hit w/ thier chance w/ RISP, that’s the difference, a sac fly would have been a nice thing.

  1204. Dove June 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    TeixMVP,

    Pete is more right than you. He actually covers the team and follows baseball.

  1205. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    What was Swish doing? Awful at bat, he just has to try and keep the line moving.

    If anything guys, be thankful we’re going through our team cold streak while we’re playing bad teams. No team plays great baseball every single day.

  1206. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    cano put up a fight, its not like he gave in easily, im just as mad at him for not at least hitting a flyball but i think the people here wanting to crucify him are wrong.

    and the people who boo arod are idiots.

  1207. yankeenate June 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    I think Arod is either hurt or tentative about re-injury. I’ve never known him to struggle for this long a time. He’s been back for more than a month, playing daily–so the timing should be there.

  1208. Oddessy June 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    “We almost tied the game with less than two outs. We almost stole one from the Nationals.”

    lol

  1209. BR June 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Anyone not really really concerned with this team you are really living with some rose colored glasses on. Aside from CC their starting pitching is awful, the bullpen while better lately still count not be counted on, and 90% this offense only does anything against terrible bullpens.

    They are 0-8 against Boston, were lucky not to be swept by the Phillies, needed a minor miracle to not lose 2/3 to the Mets, got pretty lucky last night b/c of bad defense by the Nats OF, and lost tonihgt to the worst team in baseball

  1210. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Dove,

    I’m assuming you’re calling me that to annoy me. Just because Pete covers baseball doesn’t mean we can’t have different opinions. I respect Pete, but on this one I totaly disagree.

  1211. Sevrx June 17th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Swisher was trying to hit a HR to right field…. like all the other seem to be trying to do.

    Just because we play in a bandbox, doesn’t mean they need to forget how to hit a soft single or take a walk or go the other way.

    That was such a dreadful AB by Swisher.

  1212. Ron June 17th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    I would never throw a home run ball I happenned to catch back onto the field. That is stupid.

    What is this fascination with Swisher ? Move Melky to RF, and put Gardner in CF.

    No surprise at all that AROD and Cano did not come through with the game on the line. Lannan pitched great, but the Yanks have no business losing to this team.

  1213. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Ron-”Not come through”? Um, ARod walked.

  1214. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Girardi in the postgame:

    “We lost the game because we did not hit tonight.”
    “There could have been 5 outs in that 5th inning.”

  1215. Jeter 22 June 17th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Nobody should be killing Cano.

    Kill the rest of the team for allowing this joke Nationals team to shut us down for 2 games. We rallied yesterday, highly doubtful we were going to rally again today.

    When you always play these types of games that require late comebacks, you are going to fall short more often than you will succeed. That’s baseball. Wish the team realized it though. Being confident you can come back is one thing… being complacent for the rest of the game with the expectation that you will come back late is another.

  1216. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Yeah, if not for the umpire and Pena’s drop we’re winning in spite of all this.

  1217. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    That McDougal kid would look nice in our BP but for the 6th or 7th inning role.

  1218. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 17th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    ALSO they scored 5 runs yesterday w/o hitting a homerun.

    but thats just luck right? bc you know everyone who goes up to bat is just swinging for the fences!

  1219. Hank June 17th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    I’m sorry, but Cano will never be anything special. He will get some hits on a hot streak, but rarely will those hits come with RISP.

    And he didn’t exactly bust his rear-end running hard to first, either.

    He’s just lazy, and that’s never going to change.

  1220. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Jeter 22, I’m not killing him for the DP (happens) but it is unacceptable that he was jogging to first.

    Didn’t he learn by now that the game is not over until you record the last out? He should be benched.

  1221. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Phully has lost two games to the Nats…so have the Mets, Braves and Giants. The Dodgers and St Louis have lost one. Makes you wonder if anybody’s wearing a bad over their heads due to embarrassment.

  1222. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    “Yeah, if not for the umpire and Pena’s drop we’re winning in spite of all this.”

    We loss b/c we couldn’t hit w/ RISP, simple.

  1223. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Dove June 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    TeixMVP,

    Pete is more right than you. He actually covers the team and follows baseball.

    ——————

    Sorry but NY reporters have been running around acting like the Yankees had to sweep because they determined the game on paper based on bank accounts.

    There isn’t a pro sport out there where you don’t have bad teams that beat a better team on a given day.

    The Nationals, whatever jokes people may have, are professional baseball players who aren’t going to lie down for the Yankees or anyone else. Good for them.

  1224. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    *TEAMS THE SLOB SOX HAVE LOST TO*

    Last place Oakland Athletics

    Last place Baltimore Orioles

    Last place Cleveland Indians

    First place Phillies

    First place Rangers

    So get out of here with that stupid stuff!!!! You are a freak of nature.

    Mommy mommy my team won all of six world series in their whole life mommy. Why do the Yankees have twenty six mommy!

  1225. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Makes you wonder if anybody’s wearing a ***bag*** over their heads due to embarrassment.

  1226. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Brandon-Hence “in spite of all this”…al this referring to hitting w/men in scoring position.

  1227. Snowman June 17th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    The team just doesn’t respond to Girardi.

    Say what you want about Torre but we NEVER had this many games where the team just didn’t show up for most of the game. Last year, we played a million games like that, and this year we are doing it as well. The late inning comebacks shouldn’t mask that. And as of late, it has been even more prevalent.

    The team needs some new blood. Let Girardi go down and manage the Charleston Seadogs and then in a couple years when he has some experience, he cane come back up. He is way over his head right now.

  1228. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Lara08-Spot on.

  1229. Scorpio June 17th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Was there any RISP except in the bottom of the 9th? Lannan was 1-2-3 almost every inning. We got outpitched, plain & simple.

  1230. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    “And he didn’t exactly bust his rear-end running hard to first, either.

    He’s just lazy, and that’s never going to change.”

    Oh please, just stop.

  1231. Homer June 17th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    After watching the Sunday game with Burnett and the gifts calls he got, NOBODY should be complaining about umpires and their unfavorable calls towards us.

    These things always even out.

  1232. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    97 games left… 97…repeat that…97…once more…97…dont jump off the train yet

  1233. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Homer-True, but even so, a good call and a dropped ball (rhyme unintentional) and we win.

  1234. Lara08 June 17th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    GB the Dodgers lost a game to the Nationals? No way, can’t be. Well why they heck are they still playing? The season is obviously over for them.

  1235. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 17th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    This place is nuttier than usual

  1236. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    “Brandon-Hence “in spite of all this”…al this referring to hitting w/men in scoring position.”

    I wished we could have gotten a sac fly, just one would have made the difference.

  1237. dennis-costanza June 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Charleston= River Dogs

    Portrland= Sea Dogs

    -dennis

  1238. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Team struggles with RISP because outside of Jeter Damon Teixiera no one consistently is good with RISP.
    Take a look at the rest of the lineup: Cano Swisher Posada (at times) Arod Gardner Matsui all struggle with RISP.
    That’s the majority of the lineup right there.

  1239. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Cano deserves to be benched for not running that out…that’s why w/all the talent in the world Tex is still the better player. Until Cano starts busting it, he always will be.

  1240. AZBob June 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    AZBob
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
    Another rookie pitcher making our all-star lineup look pathetic! Do we have any scouting or hitting strategies against against newbie pitchers.
    ——————————————————————————————
    Lannan isn’t a rookie. He’s been a damned fine pitcher for Washington since September of 2007.

    You’re right 14-22, we were overmatched!

  1241. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    “This place is nuttier than usual”

    Actually it’s only one or two posters , so far surprisingly calm.

  1242. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    dennis-Thank you for calling out flatcutter.

  1243. Larry June 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Season’s a failure, right? At least that’s what one writer said it would be if the Yankees didn’t sweep this series. Winning 2/3 for the rest of the year means the Yankees win 100 games. I guess that’s not good enough for some people.

  1244. Steve B June 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    “The team just doesn’t respond to Girardi”

    Maybe, maybe not. Tonight wasn’t about their response to Girardi. Tonight was little more than yet another reminder that good pitching will almost always beat good hitting. Lannan pitched a terrific game. That’ll happen.

  1245. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “The Nationals, whatever jokes people may have, are professional baseball players who aren’t going to lie down for the Yankees or anyone else. Good for them.”

    People who are playing the fool right now don’t remember when the Mariners played the spoiler for the Yankees or when the Rays owned the Yankees even though they were a last place team or when Detroit and Kansas City were the dregs of the league and had winning records against the Yankees.

    Yankees won the world series in those seasons or they made the playoffs if not winning the world series.

    GROW UP.

  1246. Vincent June 17th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Cano is just not a winning player. He doesn’t have the mindset needed to win. He is a terrific talent at a premium position, but his execution and mindset keep him from being elite. Pedroia does not ground into a DP today.

    He is like Stephon Marbury minus the off-the-field antics. Such a waste of talent. Great physical gifts, 10 cent head.

  1247. J-Boogie June 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    There’s been a lot of discussion recently about whether or not the Yankees struggle against guys they’ve never faced before. I’m working on a post for my blog and thought I’d share a few stats I put together. If I missed someone, let me know. I did it pretty quickly so I may not be 100%. You be the judge.

    By my count, there are 12 starters that the Yankees have faced this year that they haven’t faced before. I’m not counting Anthony Reyes or Jon Lannan as they have each logged almost 300 IP, which is enough to have a good scouting report on. As a team, the Yanks are 8-4 in those 12 games, however, 4 of the wins came off the opposing bullpen. The Yanks hit .249 against those 12.

    Koji Uehara: 5-21(.238)
    Alfredo Simon: 4-19(.211)
    Brett Anderson: 9-25(.360)
    Rick Porcello: 6-17(.353)
    Anthony Ortega: 8-26(.308)
    Matt Palmer: 3-22(.136)
    Jeff Niemann: 3-12(.250)
    Scott Richmond: 7-12(.583)
    Brad Bergesen: 3-21(.143)
    J.A. Happ: 4-21(.190)
    Fernando Nieve: 4-24(.167)
    Shairon Martis: 4-21(.190)

    Over .250 in 4 of the 12 games. Under .200 in 5 of the 12. If you get rid of the Richmond game, they’re hitting .231, w/WHIP of 1.25 and ERA of 4.65. If you get rid of Porcello, it drops to .222 w/ WHIP 1.17 and 4.00 ERA. A .222 average against 10 newbies.

    They’ve scored 38 runs, 36 earned off those guys (8 of which RPs allowed), ERA = 5.25. The WHIP is 1.36. If you add in Reyes start, the #s don’t change much. If you add in Lannan and Reyes, they’re hitting .238.

    So the Yankees struggle against starters they’ve never faced….fact or fiction?

  1248. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    “Lannan isn’t a rookie. He’s been a damned fine pitcher for Washington since September of 2007.

    You’re right 14-22, we were overmatched!”

    You realize w/ his BP that is good, right ?

  1249. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Lara08
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
    GB the Dodgers lost a game to the Nationals? No way, can’t be. Well why they heck are they still playing? The season is obviously over for them.

    ————————————————————

    Yep. The Yanks, Dodgers, Phils, Braves Mets and Giants should just close shop for the year.

  1250. bill June 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    I agree with those questioning hitting Cano 5th. If he’s the number 5 hitter, then the offense has real issues. He’s never shown the ability to get the big hit or even the big sac fly. In fact, he’s probably one of the worst situational hitters on the entire team.

    And it’s terribly depressing to watch Boston just easily win game after game after game while the Yanks struggle to beat the teams at the bottom of the septic tank. MLB Extra Innings really isn’t much fun at all.

    BTW, another depressing thing is that you know the Yanks couldn’t get that same game ending DP if they needed it. Mo would let that run get across. What a miserable season. Boston is on the verge of running away with the division title and the Rays and Jays are closing in on the Yanks for the Wild Card.

  1251. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    This wasn’t about baseball smarts, it was about hustle. Cano should not play tomorrow for not hustling down the line.

  1252. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    “Cano is just not a winning player. He doesn’t have the mindset needed to win. He is a terrific talent at a premium position, but his execution and mindset keep him from being elite. Pedroia does not ground into a DP today.

    He is like Stephon Marbury minus the off-the-field antics. Such a waste of talent. Great physical gifts, 10 cent head.”

    You really think that was a smart post & comparison ?

  1253. Johan Halladay - When OPPC comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it June 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    John Lannan was great tonight. We just couln’t hit this amazing pitcher.

    It looks like the Nationals are the real deal.

  1254. Dev June 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    We face Sean West (talented young lefty), Josh Johnson (one of the best pitchers in baseball) and Volsted (top prospect) in Florida

    If we can’t hit jokes like Lannan/Marthis/Nieve, what will we do against West or Volstead? Forget Josh Johnson, he is just a beast.

  1255. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    AZBob
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
    GreenBeret7
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    AZBob
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
    Another rookie pitcher making our all-star lineup look pathetic! Do we have any scouting or hitting strategies against against newbie pitchers.
    ——————————————————————————————
    Lannan isn’t a rookie. He’s been a damned fine pitcher for Washington since September of 2007.

    You’re right 14-22, we were overmatched!

    ————————————————————

    Take a good look at that team, including the bullpen. Then look at Lannon’s numbers. Then, go down to Get-A-Clue-R-Us and buy a year’s supply.

  1256. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Dev-9 runs off Santana, remember?

    Anything can happen.

    I will say right now that this is one of the most entertaining seasons of baseball I’ve ever watched.

  1257. dennis-costanza June 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Wait till they come to our house.

    Thanks. As GB7 and others know; there are good posters that come on here to discuss baseball. That poster re:mo’sflat cutter, not so much.

    -dennis

  1258. Sea Net June 17th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    A lot of folks picked Jon Lannan to win the CY Young this year.

    And tonight you saw why. Just a monster.

  1259. Bill Baker June 17th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    You won’t be seeing that if we are sitting at home again this October.

  1260. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Yeah dennis I’m relatively new, but I’ve seen you and you’re a good poster here, w/valuable thoughts on baseball.

  1261. He dropped the ball... June 17th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    How are the Yanks supposed to win games against the Marlins and Braves if they can’t hit pitchers they haven’t faced?? Against Nieve, Martis and Lannan, in those 21 innings they have scored 6 runs and 3 of those runs were home runs. This we don’t hit pitchers we haven’t seen is getting very old already. It shows that they can’t see the ball and hit it and they think too much. Like what Arod always does..

    Also can Arod please get a day off tomorrow?? He hasn’t had any since coming off surgery and he looks horrible. He is swinging with his upper body and isn’t using his hips or lower body at all. I am sure he has some soreness and or pain in his hip. The next 9 games are in NL ballparks so no DH, tomorrow should be his day.

  1262. Storm June 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Atleast Marbury made some All-Star games and won a playoff series. What has Cano done?

    That wasn’t a good comparison, Vin

  1263. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Sea Net-He was picked by some for a Cy Young year?

  1264. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    GB7 if it were up to some of these people they’d say Zach Duke sucks too.

  1265. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    the *DODGERS* the absolute *BEST* team in baseball record wise, lost to the nats

    It happens. are you going to cry about it and declare your season over? No. Win tomorrow and you win the series and if you do that for the rest of the year then you will be in good shape.

  1266. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house, did you email Pete Abe? If we all email he’ll block that freak.

    Thanks

  1267. Storm June 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Santana game was an anomaly. He is actually the first good pitcher we have hit all year if you look at the stats.

    Want to count Beckett before he turned the corner? Be my guest.

  1268. Trevor June 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Did Kim Jones really ask was that a birth certificate? Wow!

  1269. Wait till they come to OUR house June 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    We win tomorrow it’s 2/3, job well done, we’re out of here.

  1270. Christina June 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Is that the first time Wang’s been on tv? He did well.

  1271. Pat M. June 17th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Did I watch a different game ?? The game I witnessed had a pitcher who never missed his spots …..Give the kid his due, it’s probably the best game of his short career….He just played catch with his catcher…..Outside corner all night long….

  1272. Clapton100 June 17th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Tonight had nothing to do with Girardi, in fact he coaxed a well pitched game out of the bullpen, all his bullpen moves worked, and he manages the pen better than Torre did

    The team is made up of guys who swing for the fences, and for whatever reason, don’t have the ability to adjust situationally

    Usually, when they don’t hit enough home runs they don’t win

    That’s who the team is, when the ball flies out they look good, when it doesn’t they don’t, how is that Girardi’s fault? If anything, blame Cashman for building a team that doesn’t feature enough situational hitters, and a system that went through a really long dry spell in developing players, which they seem to be rebuilding now

    I’m just as frustrated as any fan, but this team is what it is, a team of sluggers

    Most nights, if they allow three runs, they will win, so ultimately, they will live or die based on their pitching, seems like the hitting is what it is, usually good enough for 5 runs

  1273. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    “Atleast Marbury made some All-Star games and won a playoff series. What has Cano done?

    That wasn’t a good comparison, Vin”

    That was a horrible comparison, b/c in a snide way he’s trying to say Robi is a loser. He was hitting over .400 in that same situation he had tonight, unfortunately a flyball would have been better. He didn’t get it tonight, he didn’t get it vs TB when Upton caught it, sooner or later it all evens out.

  1274. jerkface June 17th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    I am surprised any team is able to get a save vs the red sox the way you guys talk about them.

  1275. Betsy June 17th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Apparently Joe said on the post-game (didn’t watch) that he’d have to watch a video tape of Wang in order to evaluate how he pitched..lol, wasn’t he watching the game?

  1276. Rishi June 17th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    new post/place to complain

    :arrow:

  1277. Christina June 17th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Betsy, there are things you miss being on the side of the field. I am sure hes going to analyze the location and pitches that Wang threw to see how they were. You cant do that from the dugout.

  1278. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 17th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Betsy -

    He said he likes to watch the video because you don’t see everything during the game, but from what he saw, he was generally pleased by Wang’s performances and totally ticked off at the “5-out” fifth inning.

  1279. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 17th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    “That McDougal kid would look nice in our BP but for the 6th or 7th inning role.”

    brandon we just got rid of veras…mcdougal is a walk per inning guy this year..

  1280. bill June 17th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    “We win tomorrow it’s 2/3, job well done, we’re out of here.”

    “Job well done”? Are you freaking kidding? Anything less than a sweep (as Tampa showed) is a disappointment, to put it mildly.

    Trolls are bad, but shills/homers are worse, imo.

    And if that idiot Cano hits a sac fly, then the trolls aren’t even an issue. Blame the Yanks and their crappy fundamentals for the troll infusion.

  1281. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 17th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    “And if that idiot Cano hits a sac fly, then the trolls aren’t even an issue.”

    Until the next time. Try hanging around during games instead of showing up at the end and then see how much of an issue they aren’t.

  1282. GreenBeret7 June 17th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    dennis-costanza
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
    Wait till they come to our house.

    Thanks. As GB7 and others know; there are good posters that come on here to discuss baseball. That poster re:mo’sflat cutter, not so much.

    -dennis

    ————————————————————

    Truth be told, her, Dennis. I always thought you and Ray were closet Yankee fans. That’s why I like think place. I always learn something new.

  1283. CB June 17th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Cano has looked amazingly “lazy” the past several games as he’s put on an absolute clinic at second base ranging both to his left and right making plays most second baseman never would dream of trying.

    What a joke.

  1284. Scott S June 17th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Why did Girardi not send Arod when he was on first in the ninth and Gardner was on third?? You would force a bad team to make a decision whether to throw through, possibly have a double steal to tie the game and if not, you would at least remove the possibility of a double play!
    Its a no brainer as far as I’m concerned.
    What was Girardi thinking???

  1285. Brandon ! "B/c the Yankees don't believe in young and athletic in the OF" June 17th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    I want some of you to go to baseball reference and compare 2 players at 26 yrs. old, one was a DH/1B named David Arias Ortiz, now compare him at 26 and compare Robi Cano at 26. You’ll be surprised.

  1286. AZBob June 17th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
    AZBob
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
    GreenBeret7
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    AZBob
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
    Another rookie pitcher making our all-star lineup look pathetic! Do we have any scouting or hitting strategies against against newbie pitchers.
    ——————————————————————————————
    Lannan isn’t a rookie. He’s been a damned fine pitcher for Washington since September of 2007.

    You’re right 14-22, we were overmatched!
    ——————————————————————————————
    Take a good look at that team, including the bullpen. Then look at Lannon’s numbers. Then, go down to Get-A-Clue-R-Us and buy a year’s supply.

    Bottom line: we shouldn’t lose consistently to pitchers we are facing for the first time, Cluelessberet!

  1287. jake June 18th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    I think Girardi lost us that game….*AROD SHOULD HAVE STOLEN 2nd!!!*

  1288. saucY June 18th, 2009 at 3:07 am

    dennis-costanza
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
    Charleston= River Dogs

    Portrland= Sea Monkeys

    ——-

    fixed

    :mrgreen:

  1289. saucY June 18th, 2009 at 3:08 am

    arod is in no shape to be stealing bases….

  1290. saucy June 18th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    nevermind

  1291. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Nice pick, Pena.


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