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Game 66: Nationals at Yankees (they’re finally playing baseball in the Bronx)

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YANKEES (37-28)
Gardner CF
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Matsui DH
Cervelli C
Pena SS

Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (3-1, 3.84).

NATIONALS (17-46)
Guzman SS
Johnson 1B
Zimmerman 3B
Dunn DH
Kearns RF
Patterson CF
Harris LF
Belliard 2B
Nieves C

Pitching: RHP Craig Stammen (0-2, 5.86).

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m. (scheduled), YES.

STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees are officially not playing well. They are 6-7 in their last 13 games and have lost five of their last eight. This is the final game of the homestand. The Yankees start a nine-game journey tomorrow with three games each against the Marlins, Braves and Mets.

MOVING ALONG: The season is 40 percent over. How crazy is that?

QUICK, CALL HIS COUSIN: Alex Rodriguez is 8 of 51 (.157) in June with a .328 on-base percentage and a .314 slugging percentage. He is down to .219 for the season and has two home runs in his last 79 at-bats. He has had 128 at-bats over 37 games. His “spring training” is over.

GRITTY, GUTTY, EFFICIENT: Brett Gardner is 14 for 16 in stolen base attempts this season and 43 of 48 in his career.

SETTLING IN: Phil Hughes has made four appearances in relief. His line: 7.2 innings, 5 hits, 2 earned runs, 2 walks, 10 strikeouts. OMG, make him a reliever! This just in: Good pitchers get guys out. What applies to Joba applies to Hughes, he should be a starter. Unless you some other brilliant plan to replace Andy Pettitte next season.

CAPTAIN …: Derek Jeter has a sore left ankle and could play tomorrow. With a wet field, it makes little sense to try and play him. Girardi said he would not have played anyway.

… AND COKE: Phil Coke’s last seven appearances: 7 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 7 strikeouts. (full disclosure, a reader suggested the Captain and Coke thing).

WANG TUESDAY: Chien-Ming Wang is scheduled to start Tuesday in Atlanta.

Not sure with how much, but back with more later.

UPDATE, 1:14 p.m.: Obviously the game is being delayed by rain. They intend to try and play at some point today. That’s all there is at this point. … Oh, yeah. Thanks to Ernie Palladino for calling in the lineup. He’s in the Bronx today covering the game. Or the rain delay.

The word from the team is that “every attempt” will be made to play.

UPDATE, 2:27 p.m.: Status quo. They’re waiting.

UPDATE, 3:55 p.m.: So much for 4 p.m. first pitch. Back in a holding pattern. Updates as they become available.

UPDATE, 5:51 p.m.: Cleaning up the field. First pitch 6:30 or so.

Back in the day, when George Steinbrenner ran the team, anybody who stuck this one out would have received a free ticket for a future game when available or something like that. We’ll see what the Yankees do tonight. Anybody who waited 5.5 hours deserves something. Let ‘em move down to a decent seat anyway. Open those Legends Seats!

UPDATE, 6:10 p.m.: According to the Yankees, once the game starts it would be the third-longest delay before the start of a game in baseball history. That is unofficial, however. The record is 7 hours and 27 minutes.

UPDATE, 6:31 p.m.: They’re playing baseball. Thanks to everybody for commenting on this game post. This could be the most commented-on post ever. I think the record is 2,200+ when Joe Torre was ousted.

UPDATE, 6:41 p.m.: Pretty cool, they let everybody move down to good seats.

Meanwhile Joba still has first-inning issues. 1-0 Nats.

UPDATE, 6:45 p.m.: The Yankees finally announced the draft picks they have signed:

3B Robert Lyerly (6th round); LHP Gavin Brooks (9th); OF Neil Medchill (11th); OF Deangelo Mack (13th); RHP Shane Greene (15th); C Hector Rabago (18th); 1B Luke Murton (19th); 3B Kevin Mahoney (23rd); 2B Isaac Harrow (24th); LHP Shaeffer Hall (25th); C Jeffrey Farnham (27th); OF Justin Milo (37th); RHP Ben Watkins (40th) and OF Isaiah Brown (43rd).

UPDATE, 6:48 p.m.: Wow, Alex just swung at a pitch that practically bounced. Then he threw his bat down at the plate in disgust. 8 for 52. He’s in a bad way. You have to wonder if or when they give him a day off.

UPDATE, 6:51 p.m.: The Cisco Kid goes for the drama there with a little dramatic dive for a foul pop. He’ll get worn out about that in the clubhouse at the next Kangaroo Court.

UPDATE, 7:11 p.m.: The Yankees have scored seven runs in 21 innings against the Nationals, two in the last 12. Travesty? Disgrace? Embarrassment? Whatever word you like. Any player who whines about about never seeing the immortal Craig Stammen before should get a tour of the giant video room next to the dugout.

UPDATE, 8:05 p.m.: Two runs against the Nationals in 14 innings. Brlliant.

Meanwhile, while I remain a believer in Joba Chamberlain being a starter, he needs to earn that distinction by showing some consistency. At least this game dismisses the ridiculous idea that it was somehow Jorge Posada’s fault.

UPDATE, 8:17 p.m.: The Nats have not won a series since taking two of three from Arizona May 9-11. This would be a disaster if the Yankees don’t find a way to win this game.

UPDATE, 8:21 p.m.: Wow, A-Rod can’t buy one. Lines a ball to left and gets no love as Harris somehow catches it. All of the sudden the Nationals do everything right.

UPDATE, 8:36 p.m.: If Posada gets on, who hits? Pena with the bases loaded? Or Jeter? Or Melky?

UPDATE, 8:38 p.m.: it’ll be the Captain against crazy Julian Tavarez with the bases loaded and two outs. Yankees down 3-0. Be a good time for one of those cheapie home runs to right field.

UPDATE, 8:43 p.m.: Alas no drama, just a fielder’s choice. Seven runs in 24 innings against the Nats. Amazing.

UPDATE, 8:46 p.m.: Free tickets for those who had them today. Good job, Yanks.

UPDATE, 8:51 p.m.: Brett Gardner just slammed into the unpadded wall in left center making a nice catch. Somehow he held onto the ball but he’s being taken out of the game. He might have a minor concussion as he appears dazed. Great effort by Brett.

UPDATE, 9:19 p.m.: You knew the Yankees would come back to earth a little bit at some point. But they will be 3-6 in their last nine games if they lose tonight and if not for Luis Castillo, it would be 2-7. Now they have nine games on the road against solid opponents.

This could well be a very critical part of the season. Girardi needs to get ahold of this team right now. This “well, we never saw the pitcher before” stuff and other excuses have to end.

UPDATE, 9:30 p.m.: And the Yankees have lost two of three to the Nationals. If this is not the low point of the season, I’m not sure what could be.

The Yankees just scored seven runs in 26 innings against the worst pitching staff in baseball — two in the last 18. It’s an embarrassment. The Nationals came to New York planning to fire their manager and took two of three. Brutal.

The Nationals were 16-45 when they showed up. They had lost 25 of 30. The Yankees mailed it in for three days and that falls on the manager. Even the game they won was a no-show job for six innings.

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1,943 Responses to “Game 66: Nationals at Yankees (they’re finally playing baseball in the Bronx)”

  1. Lara08 June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 am

    While you’re on the phone, call Dr. Kevorkian for some of these fans.

  2. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! June 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    … AND COKE: Phil Coke’s last seven appearances: 7 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 7 strikeouts.
    ===================================

    Thumbs up

  3. Peter Abraham June 18th, 2009 at 11:28 am

    Pena at SS, obviously. My iPhone keeps predicting lineups for me. :-)

  4. Observer283 June 18th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    Honestly, I know it wouldn’t be family friendly, but how about this for a Phil Coke fan group:

    “Coke-Heads”? Too much?

    Maybe if the Yankes were on HBO…

  5. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    Pete -

    I guess they don’t have an “app” for that! :)

  6. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    El Nino at SS, he’s a promising SS hopefully the XBHs come along soon. :)

  7. JGS June 18th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Assuming the game gets washed out, when would they make it up?

  8. Ed - Wang is sorta back June 18th, 2009 at 11:32 am

    “El Nino at SS, he’s a promising SS hopefully the XBHs come along soon.”

    …and the homers. :)

  9. Ed - Wang is sorta back June 18th, 2009 at 11:33 am

    “Assuming the game gets washed out, when would they make it up?”

    tonight or whenever the Nats comes back to play the Mets.

  10. Rebecca-Optimist Prime June 18th, 2009 at 11:33 am

    If it gets washed out it will probably be an “if necessary” situation at the end of the season.

  11. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 11:35 am

    “…and the homers. ”

    I don’t care about the homers I’d rather he be a put it play hitter that sprays it in the gaps instead of another swinging for the fence hitter.

  12. Ed - Wang is sorta back June 18th, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Becca – don’t forget we already have 2 make up games.

  13. Someone Else June 18th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    “I don’t care about the homers I’d rather he be a put it play hitter that sprays it in the gaps instead of another swinging for the fence hitter.”

    :rofl:

    Yeah, because Gardner is more valuable than ARod.

  14. Ed - Wang is sorta back June 18th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    “I don’t care about the homers I’d rather he be a put it play hitter that sprays it in the gaps instead of another swinging for the fence hitter.”

    true true.

  15. Stephen June 18th, 2009 at 11:40 am

    They MUST play.

    I can’t have the phrase “split a series with the Nationals” on my conscience.

  16. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    “I can’t have the phrase “split a series with the Nationals” on my conscience.”

    Who cares? The Nats have a absolutely atrocious bullpen but they have a few starters who can pitch and a few big hitters in their lineup. Meaning, they are capable of winning a game now and again, as hard as that may be for some fans to believe.

  17. DJ June 18th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    I have tickets for today should I go down to the stadium expecting the game to start at 1?

  18. Rebecca-Optimist Prime June 18th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Ed: I mean a game that’s only played if the division’s tied at the end of the season and they need it for that purpose. It happened last year with the White Sox, I think.

  19. VOTE FOR MARK TEIXEIRA June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Get your All Star game votes in people!

    No excuses!

    mlb.com

  20. Mitch June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Please dear God, can we somehow get rid of Arod. Can we trade Arod for Halladay?

  21. teddy June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    really the nationals should be going for a sweep if they could play defense. this team has serious flaws and can’t play goudamentally baseball, giradri can’t manage. has he ever hear of a hit and run against the a sinkerballer and the old guard can’t stand him

  22. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    “Yeah, because Gardner is more valuable than ARod.”

    So far in 2009, he has been. Let me know when you see otherwise.

  23. Tommy H June 18th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Coke’s dad was at the game last night and was brought down to the better seats (not quite legend seats) when he pitched. Seemed like a nice guy he had a jersey that said Coke’s Dad down the side of it-

  24. VOTE FOR MARK TEIXEIRA June 18th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    teddy,

    for your sake, I hope it’s just that you’ve had a few too many to drink.

  25. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Mitch
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am
    Please dear God, can we somehow get rid of Arod. Can we trade Arod for Halladay?
    ======

    Please dear God, can we get rid of you, and the vermin like you?

    ARod is more “we” than you’ll ever be.

  26. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    I really hope they play this game. I have a feeling Joba is going to go 7 scoreless and the Yanks will rout.

  27. TKinDC June 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    ‘Captain . . . and Coke!’ – good one.

    Bethpage looks miserable – I hope they are able to get this one in.

  28. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    I got in another 25 All star game votes last night.

    It makes me sick to see the Puke ahead of Tex.

  29. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Yanks play like garbage in the slop. Call it off.

    I’ve got Arod problems dancing through my head.

    Worse case scenario: His hip is all messed up and he’ll struggle through the rest of the season. He gets the bigger surgery come fall and comes back next april.

    Doomsday scenario: He’s been on roids his whole life like Selena infers and this is the real him. 8 more seasons and a quarter billion dollars down the drain. Arod builds a super duper condo next to the stadium complete with a tunnel that leads directly to the clubhouse.

  30. Tommy H June 18th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Yogi- jeez the guy came off hip surgery, came back early, and the team got better instantly. Give A-rod a break. You people booing him, do you think that really helps? He has a walk-off homerun and a homer to tie a game in the 9th, give it a REST

    and I also wouldn’t say the yankees are officially playing badly. If they won yesterday with a fly ball, a correct call at 1b or any number of plays would they be officially playing well? Go 11-5 and we will be on pace for 96 wins even with everything that has happened in the first half of the year- I’ll take it

  31. Brock June 18th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Anyone know whatever happened to Kat O’Brien at Newsday?

  32. teddy June 18th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    why not, is all facts. if was played defense in the first game, they handed ny to runs, they should be going for a sweep. minus the castillo game they should of lost, 1 and 7 in the last 8 games sounds right

  33. Pauly June 18th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    “Unless you some other brilliant plan to replace Andy Pettitte next season.”

    When did he announce his retirement?

  34. JGS June 18th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    I guess–the only situation I could imagine it mattering is if the Yankees finish a half game ahead of the Sox (assuming they lose the season series and the division loser wins the wild card, a tie would mean the Sox take the division). In that case, having to play a game against the nats for the division sounds pretty good

  35. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Brock she went back to school I believe

  36. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! June 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Brock June 18th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Anyone know whatever happened to Kat O’Brien at Newsday?

    ================================

    I believe Kat went back to school

  37. ANSKY June 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Hooooo Nellie … just brutal today. No the rain. The comments.

  38. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Tommy H – I’m not really complaining about him. I’m actually giving him a lot of credit. It’s Cano and Cabrera that I’m sick of.

  39. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    “*can’t play goudamentally baseball*”

    GB7 would be proud. Or maybe just surly, I don’t know. Unless it’s some sort of joke I missed. The “gouda mentality”? More new slang??

    Watching goudamental baseball with my girlfriend’s parts.

  40. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    Halloday went on the DL. Is it wrong to hope he is still on it when the Yanks face Toronto July 4th weekend???????

  41. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Boston Dave – OPPC
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:49 am
    I got in another 25 All star game votes last night.
    It makes me sick to see the Puke ahead of Tex.
    =====

    Last time I looked, we were behind by 1,300 votes. I’m going to do another 25 myself.

    John Henry is probably holed up in some little room in a state of rage, angrily pushing the button for his boy over an over again.

    How about the real Yankee fans on here – the ones not spending energy feigning moral indignation that Alex Rodriguez actually exists – get on board and vote for Tex?

  42. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 18th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Even batting close to the Mendoza line, A-Rod helps this lineup. Do you remember how poorly the Yankees played while he was gone? They are in a slump now, but they will eventually come out of it. If A-Rod is out of the lineup, that’s a slump they never recover from.

  43. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    “QUICK, CALL HIS COUSIN: Alex Rodriguez is 8 of 51 (.157) in June…”

    a steroid crack? what a shameful life, making fun of other people’s misery. alex has a family, pete.

  44. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    “Watching goudamental baseball with my girlfriend’s parts.”

    I have no idea what this means but it sounds terrifying.

  45. Sandy June 18th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Re: A-Rod.

    It is strange to have a feeling of dread everytime he steps up to the plate with runners on in a big situation. You can just tell he is not going to make something happen. But, looking on the bright side — that was the same feeling I had about Mark Teixiera around the end of April.

    Interesting how as A-Rod’s slump has gone on, Teix is now slumping too — his “back-up” is not backing him up, therefore he is not getting those good pitches to hit like he did for most of May.

    Good thing some of our younger players (you know, those “automatic outs” some of you are always complaining about) are coming thru for us this season — Gardner, Pena and Cervelli have been like a breath of fresh air for this tired old team. And to them you have to add Melky and Cano, who are now two of the most reliable clutch hitters in the line-up.

  46. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:58 am
    Halloday went on the DL. Is it wrong to hope he is still on it when the Yanks face Toronto July 4th weekend???????
    =====

    I would say it’s “wrong” that Halladay and baseball be deprived of eachother.

  47. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Hasn’t Arod proven his worth to the Yankees this year even if he’s in the lineup with a .200 average? If for nothing else but to be protection for Teixiera? That name, even at .200 still strikes fear in opposing managers/pitchers. The fact is that a .200 Arod is a more valuable protector of Teixiera than a .350 Swisher.

  48. Tex's Friend (Soon the starting 5 will dominate again!) June 18th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    a-rod needs a day off. he looks like he is hurting and he is swinging like he is hurt. no player is going to go to the manager and ask to sit, so it is up to the manager to recognize this.

  49. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    Halladay is saying he’ll be ready to pitch on June 28th when he’s eligible to come off the DL (I have him on 3 Fantasy teams, full disclosure, so I’m very interested in his health). Still, he also said that his groin still experiences “tightness” when he tries to throw, so it may linger and keep him out longer than June 28th. Only time will tell. If he comes off the DL on the 28th, he would pitch again on Friday, July 3 (against the Yankees). But, that is a long enough way away so it’s not time to worry yet.

  50. Jay Hirsch June 18th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    Let’s repolace Pettitte this year. Nostalgia is great, but how long has it been since he has pitched a dominant game.

  51. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Yogi8
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:57 am
    Tommy H – I’m not really complaining about him. I’m actually giving him a lot of credit. It’s Cano and Cabrera that I’m sick of.
    ========

    And why would that be? That you’re sick of them?

  52. Sandy June 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Ghost — Isn’t Teix like 3 for his last 22 or something like that?

    A-Rod is not”protection” at the moment.

  53. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with hoping the Yankees miss Haliday for once. :)

  54. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Pettitte doesn’t pitch “dominant” games anymore. He is the veteran “crafty lefty” nowadays. Some days it works, some days it doesn’t–however, he is still taking the mound every 5th day and is still on pace to log 200 innings or somewhere near that #, which is what the Yankees are paying him to do. It still looks like he will end up giving them a majority of quality innings at that, despite how up and down he has been this year. He has historically been a better 2nd half pitcher so hopefully that holds up again in ’09 and he doesn’t experience the breakdown he did in ’08.

  55. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    here’s an idea, instead of using hughes to replace andy pettitte next season, why don’t they use him to replace chien-ming “my career is beginning to resemble the hindenburg” wang right now? but then they’d have a chance to win those games, so nevermind.

    it baffles me, how blind people seem to be to this team. we’ve all seen this movie five years running now, it’s just got a slightly different cast this season. the plot’s the same, though: inconsistent pitching, poor situational hitting, weak fundamental baseball, and a one-and-done playoff exit, if that.

    you think it’ll be different? you’re delusional. match this team up with the likes of boston, see how they fare. oh, wait. we know that answer already. 0-8.

    as for wang, i’m sure pete wept tears of joy all the way home last night because his best buddy pitched slightly less miserably than he had before. anyone who missed the game, wang was at 93 or less all night and his location was awful. he got lucky against a very mediocre offense. put him up against a decent lineup and pete will be scrambling for more excuses.

    and anyone who wants to label me a whiner or anything else, wait a few games. as soon as this team drops a few more behind boston in the standings, SJ44 will stop admonishing negative posters and start saying things like, “might be time to blow it up and start over,” just like he was when they were playing poorly earlier in the year. and you know what? he’s an astute guy, and he’s absolutely right. he – like many other posters – just got swayed by this team’s little mirage of a winning streak and now believes they’re a better-than-average baseball team. here’s news that shouldn’t be news: they’re not. and they’ll continue to prove my point for the next few months until the entire board is arguing about who should lose their job first, girardi or cashman.

    catch you guys in october. we’ll have plenty to talk about and plenty of time to do so, as the yankees won’t be playing.

  56. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Can we be a little positive? Just a little? Do you have to type every morbid, moronic thought? Can you show a little discipline?

  57. Tom in N.J June 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Why root for a team that is full of players you hate?

  58. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    If fate has it that Halladay is out, and we happen to miss him as a result, that’s just the roll of the dice.

  59. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    “The season is 40 percent over. How crazy is that?”

    as yogi says, it gets late early around here.

    if they are not doing it they should be doing some strength tests on arod just as a precaution. if there is some unusual weakness they should know about it .you would think they would , but with the yankees you never know.

  60. DocBrown June 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Officially not playing well? They’ve won 9 of 11 series since May 8. I’ll take that any year.

  61. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    “And why would that be? That you’re sick of them?”

    It’s the way they play. Offensively they turn triples into doubles, doubles into singles, FC’s into DP’s and infield hits into ground outs because they don’t hustle. Their defense is lazy as well.

  62. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Tom in N.J
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
    Why root for a team that is full of players you hate?
    =====

    Honoring dysfunctional family pattern?

    I’m just taking a wild stab.

    I’m with you – why, indeed.

  63. lardin June 18th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Hey Pete, just throwing out “Other ideas” Keep Hughes in the bullpen and sign Lackey to replace Pettite.

  64. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 18th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Everyone save for Cano is in a slump right now pretty much. Tex’s slump was bound to happen; he wasn’t going to be that hot the entire season. No player is. As for A-Rod providing protection for Tex, his presence is also a mental protection as well. Everyone says that Tex doesn’t want to be “the guy” in the lineup. With Alex there, he doesn’t have to be. I think that’s another reason why he relaxed so much when Alex got back. He didn’t have to carry the whole weight. Even with Alex in a slump, there is always a chance that he can get the big hit. I would think that gives Tex some peace of mind as well.

  65. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    “if they are not doing it they should be doing some strength tests on arod”

    they might want to try it with joba, too. if he keeps throwing 90mph meat it won’t matter where he’s pitching.

  66. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Yogi8
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
    “And why would that be? That you’re sick of them?”
    It’s the way they play. Offensively they turn triples into doubles, doubles into singles, FC’s into DP’s and infield hits into ground outs because they don’t hustle. Their defense is lazy as well.
    ====

    I see. And they are BOTH guilty of these things, you say?

    And how does this “lazy” defense and lack of “hustle” manifest itself?

  67. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    randy I,

    Was looking for you earlier. Wang’s start. I didn’t see the game, what was your impression? I’m not sure if you commented on the game thread last night. RAB says it was similar to the Boston start, velocity there, location not all there.

  68. Sandy June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Laura– I guess that’s why teams are now walking Teix to get to A-Rod?

  69. Bill June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    “QUICK, CALL HIS COUSIN” – Come on Pete, you’re better than that.

  70. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Man, I think the standings must be misprinted in the paper this morning.

    Every guy on the team stinks….Arod needs to be gone and life is woeful for the crybabies.

    Yet, somehow, someway, the Yankees are only 3 games out of first and leading for the WC on June 19.

    How can that be with so many players on the team some of you hate?

    The standings must be wrong.

    Here’s hoping they play today, Girardi calls for 27 straight bunts, and all the players some of you despise are benched for life.

    That means the Yankees will only field a team of about 2-3 players a night. But, what the heck, it will make the bridgejumpers and crybabies happy.

  71. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    “Come on Pete, you’re better than that.”

    No he’s not.

  72. YankWatcher June 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Yea, Joba is an over-rated tub of lard.

    Put him back in the bullpen where he so obviously belongs and give his spot to Hughes. Oh, wait — we have to give Wang’s spot to Hughes.

  73. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    “Laura—I guess that’s why teams are now walking Teix to get to A-Rod?”

    One of these days, that’s going to come back and bite them in the rear.

  74. Tex's Friend (Soon the starting 5 will dominate again!) June 18th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    a-rod played 30 less games than big sloppy and still has more homeruns and rbis. and he plays the field.

  75. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    kaseya, why bother being a fan then? Just stop watching the games and posting here if you are going to be THAT doom and gloom about literally every single aspect of the team. This team hasn’t gotten to where they are with a “little mirage of a winning streak”, they have just been consistently winning series all year, which is usually the sign of a good baseball team, regardless of what you’d like to believe.

    Most people on this board would vehemently disagree with you that this team is going to fall apart and go away in the summer, because so far their performance this year does not dictate that such a collapse is likely. Furthermore, who is taking the Wild Card away from them in the event that they can’t get past Boston? Someone from the central? Tampa?

  76. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 18th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    “How can that be with so many players on the team some of you hate?”

    I think that we have some Red Sox fans on here pretending to be Yankee fans. That is the only thing that would explain some of these posts.

  77. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Bod,

    This team is so “bad”, they have won 9 of their last 11 series.

    Don’t you get it by now? If they don’t win EVERY SERIES and EVERY GAME, they are, “lazy, terrible, and everybody needs to be fired”.

    Come on man, I know you like to go to a lot of games but, follow along here.

    Those of us who have the SHOCKING opinion that this is actually a good ballclub need to take notice of this stuff.

    If not, we get called out for being “apologists” for the evil regime that has taken over this “terrible team”.

  78. Sandy June 18th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    “Laura—I guess that’s why teams are now walking Teix to get to A-Rod?”
    One of these days, that’s going to come back and bite them in the rear.

    Yes, but so far it hasn’t. Not once.

    I like A-Rod and would like nothing better than to see him get it together. Especially since with the money he is making we are stuck with him for — what is it — eight more years.

  79. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    “And how does this “lazy” defense and lack of “hustle” manifest itself?”

    How often do you see them watch the ball out of the box, or not run out a grounder – and I mean sprint like they’re supposed to… Cano’s defense has improved ever since he was benched last year but too many balls get by that way and one of these days one of his lazy sidearm off-balance throws is going to be costly. Cabrera is just painful to watch in the outfield.

  80. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Laura,

    No doubt we have some trolls in here today. But, most of the whiny posts today come from the same Yankee “fans” who take over the game thread with their crybaby act.

    The “hate Arod”, “Hate Wang” and hate anybody crowd who doesn’t make their day with perfect play on a given day.

    I laugh at them more than anything else. They are really funny the way they lose their minds over any loss.

    The next 5 game winning streak they have, they will talk smack and predict 110 wins and a World Series. Its just how they roll. Too emotional to have any understanding of baseball. They view every game as the 7th game of the World Series.

  81. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Wang and Alex are terrible. JK

  82. Sandy June 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Yogi– what drugs are you on? Cabrera is an excellent defender and has the best arm of any of our outfielders.

  83. Scorpio June 18th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    “Cabrera is just painful to watch in the outfield.”

    Huh? Melky had a bad read and made the wrong move yesterday but the day before he made an amazing catch.

    He’s no Torii Hunter but that’s pretty harsh. Them’s the break in bb, you can’t get them all.

  84. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 18th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    “Yes, but so far it hasn’t. Not once.”

    Technically, that’s not true. Castillo dropped that popup, but he didn’t strike out. He put the ball in play, which led to the error. We won the game so in essence, he came through.

  85. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    “Yeah, because Gardner is more valuable than ARod.”

    Who said that ? I mean I rather El Nino be an XBH threat instead of another swing for the fence or out player. I don’t mind Nino not hitting HRs an XBH is just as valueable as a HR w/ RISP.

  86. Sandy June 18th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Laura– well, boy, that’s stretching it. 99.9 times out of 100 that’s a game ending out.

    I was at that game and even A-Rod was in total disbelief.

  87. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    I try not to single people out, but Yogi – you’re deeply troubled. The team just had one of the craziest wins of the year, a la hustle (and a wee little error) against the Mets last Friday. Cano is a great fielder – he just makes it look to easy for some of you. Cabrera had a bad moment in the field last night – he had a web gem on Tuesday. Things happen. Please find another team – this one’s not doing it for you and you’re offensive.

  88. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    andrew,

    i want the team to win, i just don’t think they will. nothing about the last five year tells me they will. and, unfortunately, CC can’t pitch every game. who’s going to get them through a playoff series, in the event they win the wildcard? AJ burnett? pass. chien-ming wang? pass. joba chamberlain? yeah, he’s going to blow hitters away with that blistering 90mph fastball. this team has precisely two good starting pitchers right now and one of them is in the bullpen so the yankees can pamper chien-ming wang’s ego.

    this is a team full of very good offensive players who, for some reason, has struggled at fundamental baseball and situational hitting for years. does everyone need to be fired? no. does everyone need to be benched? no. funny SJ44 should say that as i believe some of his comments earlier in the year called for the yankees to blow it up and start over. what a difference a winning streak makes.

    i don’t think they need to blow it up. i think they need to figure out how to hit situationally and they need to figure out why nobody besides sabathia is capable of pitching with consistency. they do that, they’re fine. but they haven’t been able to handle those tasks for the last five years, so why would they start now?

    call me a bridge jumper or crybaby or whatever. i could not care less. i’ve read SJ44′s posts long enough to know that, knowledgeable as he is, his opinion on the team changes according to their record. when they’re bad, they need to blow it up, when they’re good, any dissenter is a whiner or a bridge jumper. it’s not tough to figure that out. go back through a year’s worth of posts.

    there are a few people who have been continually optimistic about this team, and good for them. to me, it’s silly and delusional but they’d say the same thing about my negativity. it takes all kinds. is it better to have high hopes and end up disappointed or to have low expectations and be pleasantly surprised if things turn out differently? it’s a matter of perspective.

  89. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Scorpio
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
    “Cabrera is just painful to watch in the outfield.”
    Huh? Melky had a bad read and made the wrong move yesterday but the day before he made an amazing catch.
    He’s no Torii Hunter but that’s pretty harsh. Them’s the break in bb, you can’t get them all.
    =====

    That was a terrible play – uncharacteristic of Melky to dive for that rather than let it drop and use his arm to keep the runners honest. Really, he had no chance on that, and it cost us a run. He won’t be doing THAT again.

    Melky gets a much better jump than is generally acknowledged. He isn’t Torii Hunter, but he knows where the ball is going and he usually gets there, without doing eight hundred revolutions, to greet and glove it. He is dependable, solid, has more range than people think, and contrary to popular belief, has very sound instincts as an outfielder.

  90. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    “Too emotional to have any understanding of baseball.”

    this is funny to me. if i had time, i’d run back through the game threads when the yanks record was .500 and find all of your posts calling them mediocre and calling for changes, but we both know they’re there so what’s the point. you don’t want to cop to it, that’s cool with me.

    but please don’t pretend you’re above emotional reaction to a loss. that’s laughable, dude.

  91. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Anybody notice that Cervelli is catching Joba today? After Joba and Jorge had such a bad game against the Mets and Girardi said he would deal with it, this is not what I expected. I thought Jorge is in there again. I wonder what happened when they sat down to talk. Do you guys think that they are done working together? Or, is Posada out simply because it’s a day game after a night game? Not sure.

  92. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    If we win today, we’ve only lost one series since the Philly series. I’ve seen worse baseball played.

  93. jerkface June 18th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    day game after night game

  94. JINT June 18th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    When’s the last time we won a game in the rain?

    Call the game off— play it again when it is sunny.

  95. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Jorge doesn’t catch a day game after a night game.

  96. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Kasey,

    Nothing with this team resembles the past few years. They play harder, win more often, and overall are a better team than the last 2-3 Yankee teams.

    Its not a perfect team. No team is. They will have slumps and bad days/nights.

    However, even the most pessimistic person in the world has to admit, these guys fight to the last out and have in just about every game they have played this year.

    That alone makes it a FAR cry from the last couple of seasons.

    There is too much talent on this team to fade away this summer.

  97. Sandy June 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Boy, getting awful heated in here today!

    Personally, I am tired of the team’s over reliance on home runs and home run hitters.

    I’d like to see more “small ball” ala what we’ve seen this year from the likes of Gardner and Cervelli. Bunts, stolen bases, quirky bloop hits that end up scoring runs.

  98. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Ed H.-I’m guessing day game after night game.

    I’m hoping they get the game in at 1:00 becasue all the US open people say that’s when the rain will stop.

    Cano should have run harder out of the box. What will it take to convince him? A game winning error? Oh, wait a minute…

  99. Jeff NJ - Everyday Aceves June 18th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Optimistic poster here. Winning series is the name of the game, so I’d hate to see a rainout today. And no the tean is not struggling. Looking forward to seeing the pitchers bat over the next 10 days.

  100. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    SJ44, I’m with you. This season has been extremely entertaining so far and nothing has happened to convice me that it won’t be as the year goes on.

  101. shantz June 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    I hate to bring it up, but ..

    It may be time to consider a line up change. How about this: Damon, Jeter, Cano, Tex, A Rod, Posada, Matsui/Nady, Swisher, Cabrera.

  102. morning star June 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Looks like the game day crazy-troll-kids are out again in force. Too bad, had hoped they would be in school and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy the day.

  103. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    kasey I understand your point, and you definitely presented it in a less whiney and more substantial way than most of the crazies that post here about how this team stinks. However I will say that the Yankees have a better chance of the guys you took a “pass” on (Wang, Burnett and Joba) pitching successfully in the playoffs than if they were running anybody else out there. They have just as much of a chance as any other team that has playoff potential in the AL this year because, regardless of your opinion on how they might perform, the guys you named are high-quality starters.

    I also hope you understand that Joba’s problems are mechanical, and when his mechanics are right he’s throwing 95 consistently, but when they are wrong (like Friday night) he has no control and is throwing low 90s. To think that he won’t find any consistency this year and get into a good rhythm is just a pessimistic perspective, because I think as long as he’s healthy and taking the mound every 5 days he will put together a run where he’s overpowering.

  104. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    I can’t believe they’re playing this game – just ridiculous. Thanks, umps.

  105. Bob(the original) June 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    any weather updates?

  106. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    “these guys fight to the last out and have in just about every game they have played this year.”

    that i’ll absolutely grant you. that is certainly a difference.

    until they get the situational hitting and pitching problems taken care of, though, they’re not going to get a different result than they have the last few years.

  107. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    shantz, problem is if you mess w/it you risk ruining the great vibe that Tex has had.

    I really want Tex to get his avg. higher, like up to 290.

  108. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    23 min till baseball yes!

  109. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    “Melky gets a much better jump than is generally acknowledged. He isn’t Torii Hunter, but he knows where the ball is going and he usually gets there, without doing eight hundred revolutions, to greet and glove it.”

    Bod:

    This a sublte backhand to GGBG who goes after flyballs as though he’s been entered into a 50 yard dash for people with no sense of direction???

  110. jennifer June 18th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    it is nasty outside in midtown. not raining hard but raining.

  111. Observer283 June 18th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    The point Kaseya, is that we just don’t know what the future will bring. This team has sufficient talent that there is a good chance they will compete all season and through the post-season. There is also a chance they don’t even make the playoffs. We just don’t know yet.

    You seem to be implying that its a foregone conclusion that this team will end up in the same place as teams for the last few years. I think its conviction with which you are predicting doom that is rubbing the people the wrong way.

    In the meantime, there is plenty of season left. We should enjoy every day of it, especially considering none of us can credibly say how its all going to shake out in the end.

  112. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Come on man, I know you like to go to a lot of games but, follow along here.
    Those of us who have the SHOCKING opinion that this is actually a good ballclub need to take notice of this stuff.
    If not, we get called out for being “apologists” for the evil regime that has taken over this “terrible team”.
    ===

    It’s getting so that the games provide a refuge from the boards. But of course, you have to deal with the anti-ARods and their asphyxiated hatred for the team’s premier player.

    That has gotten so old, and is so unjust, I can’t tell you.

    I’d really just welcome it if Alex were to give the “fans” a nice, Sparky-like salute. He’d never do it, of course – but I’d stomp my feet and applaud him.

  113. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    “Anybody notice that Cervelli is catching Joba today?”

    Day game after night game. Nothing else to report here

  114. Mike June 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Wait,

    That’s true. However, during that time we have lost several games in the standings. At some point during that stretch, we were 7 ahead of Tampa and 2 ahead of Boston. Now we are only 3 ahead of Tampa and 3 behind Boston.

    In this division, winning series may not be enough considering our opponents sweep away a lot of their bad opponents.

  115. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    “It may be time to consider a line up change. How about this: Damon, Jeter, Cano, Tex, A Rod, Posada, Matsui/Nady, Swisher, Cabrera.”

    Cano and his .330ish OBP, and struggles with men on base batting 3rd???

  116. Scorpio June 18th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
    If we win today, we’ve only lost one series since the Philly series. I’ve seen worse baseball played.
    ….

    uhm, didn’t we get swept by Boston after that or was it so traumatic we’ve blocked it out of our memory.

  117. Bob(the original) June 18th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Some of you people need to take a year off from following the Yanks and follow a team like the Blue Jays, Pirates, Royals, etc.

    Might give a little well needed perspective.

    Might also help to take some time to learn about the game and study it’s history. Some of you really have no clue.

  118. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Betsy, how do you enjoy the game? You can find complaints with everything.

    I have a lot of repect for you, as I do for all posters that aren’t trolls, but you just seem like you don’t have fun watching baseball.

  119. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Scorpio-That was the one series unless I’m missing something.

  120. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Did any of you think, after two aggresive base steals by Gardner [one on a pitchout], that a squeeze play was coming next, after A-Rod had walked?

    Also if no squeeze play, do you pinch run Berroa for A-Rod and have him try and steal second, or is he slower than molasses??!!

    SJ44-Nice article about your nephew in USA Today’s Baseball Weekly [this weeks]. GM said defensively, he could play in the majors right now.

  121. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    SJ, what I see is different about this team is they fight….but that’s not enough to overcome their deficiencies. The same problems they had the last few years have carried over into this season – why not? It’s mostly the same players. Late inning magic can only take you so far. The fact that this team takes innings off at a time is a problem. So is the fact that they rely on the HR. The SP is just not that good no matter how you slice it. CC is holding the rotation together, we’re still trying to get Wang back on track, AJ is AJ, Joba is a kid and bound to be up and down and Pettitte has not been particularly good. At this point, all you can hope is that the rotation puts it together, but it’s by no means a sure thing. The pen is bad.
    Of course every team has it’s flaws ,but for a good team, the Yankees have more than their share. They have not particularly distanced themselves from anyone in the WC chase – what does that tell you about how good this team is? The Jays have had an immense amount of pitching injuries – how are they still hanging in there? Yes, the Yankees are good – but are they as good as advertised at the beginning of the season? No.

  122. Irer June 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    If they lose this series to the Nationals at home, they might as well pack it up and head home for the summer.

  123. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Mike, if you’re trying to tell me that winning 2 of every three games isn’t good enough, I’ll have to disagree.

    Boston and Tampa are on hot streaks. Every team has them.

  124. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Huh? Because I don’t want to play in a downpour?

  125. Scorpio June 18th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    Scorpio-That was the one series unless I’m missing something
    ….

    I thought you were counting the Philly series as THE losing series. I get ya now.

  126. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    “any dissenter is a whiner or a bridge jumper.”

    That is annoying I have to say. I try to keep and even keel but the total haters annoy me just as much as the blindly optimistic or the “it’s one game, get over it/there’s plenty of season left” people. To me, that’s more annoying than anything, as if the losses didn’t add up.

    There’s always room for improvement. No need for panic, but they are smart enough to make adjustments throughout the season.

  127. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Also, John Lannan is one of the top lefties in NL, and has been for two years, and the Nationals don’t have the worst hitting team in NL either, and are better than the Braves in that department.

  128. Michael June 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    kaseya,
    It’s ridicious to say Hughes is better than AJ and Joba. Before worry about who can pitch in playoff, we need at least 4 consistent pitcher to get into it. Joba has IP constraint and Pettiett may go to DL. That’s why we need to “spoil” wang now.

  129. Tom B June 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    kasey you are pretty confused. 2 good starters? try 4, just because they haven’t been pitching well doesn’t mean they won’t. burnett is outperforming his season from last year.

    and you can’t learn to hit situationally, you either hit, or don’t. the situation is irrelevant. that’s called luck. so yes, the yankee’s are unlucky, and they should learn how to get lucky? lol

  130. JohnC June 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Bob:

    Thats one of the best ideas I’ve ever seen on this forum. I wish some posters would actually take your suggestion, but unfortunately, they won’t.

  131. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    SJ44, don’t forget, the Yankees have a 209 million dollar payroll. The Nationals have a 54 million dollar payroll. When the Yankees lose to the Nationals who also happen to be the worst team in baseball, you should expect a few bridge jumpers.

  132. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Sandy
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
    Boy, getting awful heated in here today!

    Personally, I am tired of the team’s over reliance on home runs and home run hitters.

    I’d like to see more “small ball” ala what we’ve seen this year from the likes of Gardner and Cervelli. Bunts, stolen bases, quirky bloop hits that end up scoring runs.

    ————————————————————

    Imagine the confusion it would cause when Girardi flashes “The quirky bloop hit that end up scoring runs” sign.

  133. 66 stripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    June Records:

    Tampa: 10-4
    Boston: 11-3
    Yankees: 8-7

    We’re not playing that badly. Our opponents have just gotten red hot, Boston especially.

  134. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    “If they lose this series to the Nationals at home, they might as well pack it up and head home for the summer.”

    As an advocate for the strange and weird, I’d love to see that happen. To another team though.

    Nationals Sweep Mets. Mets forfeit Remainder of Season. Core To Be Broken Up.

  135. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Betsy, not just this (I figured you’d be happy just to see some baseball), but when we won fifteen nothing you said something like “Burnett had four(whatever the number) walks? Ugh.” I mean, be happy about a 15-0 win.

    So we’re not playing our best baseball. No team plays it’s best baseball every single game of the year. Be thankful we’re still managing to win games anyway.

  136. Christina25 June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    You know I’m a Red Sox fan but give Arod a break. The guy had a surgery for goodness sake. Mike Lowell was playing injured last year and he was the same way.At least he is willing to play through pain. Look what Manny did last year. He quit on his team and he was faking injuries so he doesnt have to play. Give Arod some credit here. And to the people that boo Mariano Rivera. That is disgusting. Show some patience.

  137. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Kasey,

    They finished 5 games out of a playoff spot with a starting rotation consisting of Ponson, Rasner, Pavano, a hurting Andy Pettitte, and Mike Mussina for the last two months of last season.

    They had a human boulder at first base named Jason Giambi.

    They had Jose Molina and Chad Moeller catching.

    With ALL of that, they finished only 5 games out of a playoff spot with Tampa getting career years and good health from their entire pitching staff.

    This year, they have CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett, Wang and Chamberlain added to the rotation. They have Tex instead of Giambi at first. A “slight” upgrade.

    They have Posada back behind the plate and in the lineup.

    Robinson Cano is MILES better than he was last year. Same for Melky Cabrera.

    Toronto and Tampa’s pitching staffs are loaded with injuries and poor performances with the exception of Halliday. The rest of the AL is nothing to write home about, vis a vie the WC.

    Despite losing all 8 games to the Sox, they are only 3 games out of first. In other words, the Sox should be running away in the race and aren’t.

    This team has more fight than its demonstrated in recent years.

    All of those factors are why this team is in a MUCH better place than they have been in the past few years.

    Scary thing is, they are this good AND have room for a LOT of improvement. That’s why I think they have a chance to have a very, very good summer.

  138. JohnC June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    “Huh? Because I don’t want to play in a downpour?”

    Betsy,

    You’re not playing. What do you care?

  139. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
    Betsy, how do you enjoy the game? You can find complaints with everything.

    I have a lot of repect for you, as I do for all posters that aren’t trolls, but you just seem like you don’t have fun watching baseball.

    ——

    Most people here don’t seem to enjoy watching baseball.

  140. Joey's Poodle June 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Brook,

    Kat O’Brien left the moribund newspaper business to go to graduate school at Wharton. At present she’s spending a month in a Spanish-speaking country (Argentina?) taking a course to upgrade her already considerable skills in that language.

    Very smart lady. Would be nice if she came back to baseball in some other capacity, but maybe she’s really interested in plain old business school?

  141. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Yankees are one of the top five teams in all of baseball, and if they get and stay healthy, and tweak their bullpen and get the starters going, this team can make it to the WS.

  142. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Christina25, you are absolutely 100% right.

    A-Rod has actually been very clutch this year anyway.

  143. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Just for the record-
    I absolutely resent being referred to as whiny. (Again, before you criticize someone check your spelling or you look dumb). I am one of the most positive posters on the blog- and mentioning Halladay was just me tipping my cap to him. So shut up and know your facts before you criticize someone

  144. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Game must be cancelled and Pete is getting an update from the clubhouse …

    He usually is posting updates if the tarp is on or off

  145. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    I hope that the reason Posada is out is just because of the schedule. It doesn’t help the team to have combinations of players who can’t work together.

    I’m looking forward to seeing Cervelli, Gardner and Pena in the game together with Melky and Cano today. I really enjoy the kids and their style of play. Hopefully, they’ll get it in.

    With those five guys in the lineup and Joba pitching it’s a very different Yankees look from what we’ve seen for many years. I like the look and the energy. For a number of years, you’d be lucky to find one of two guys below the age of 30 on the field for the Yanks. The team had to get younger and more athletic and they are doing it.

  146. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    SJ44, you are so right it’s not even funny.

  147. Ted June 18th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    U can’t take sj44 seriously. He’s the first guy saying blow it up. If I had to read another post of his saying trade Cano I would puke. And now he’s the beacon of optimism?? LOL

  148. Danny June 18th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Yankees would rather play in a downpour than give up another precisions off-day in the late summer

    As it is, we’re playing like 40 games in 42 days from the middle of August through September.

    We already gave away one July off-day to play the A’s series.

  149. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Some people revel in the negative. It’s a pretty sorry statement on the life they must lead.

  150. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Steve B
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
    “Melky gets a much better jump than is generally acknowledged. He isn’t Torii Hunter, but he knows where the ball is going and he usually gets there, without doing eight hundred revolutions, to greet and glove it.”
    Bod:
    This a sublte backhand to GGBG who goes after flyballs as though he’s been entered into a 50 yard dash for people with no sense of direction???
    ====

    You’re funny. Didn’t mention GGBG, and hopefully one can make a point about one guy without disparaging the other.

    I have made my point, I think, often enough comparing the two – no longer necessary since Cabrera is the starter.

    I also think that outfield defense is difficult for people to get a read on, to say nothing of outfielders’ reads on balls.

    It’s strange – you either recognize it when you see it, or you don’t. People also tend to assume instinct is a given if you have great speed, and I know YOU know it doesn’t always work that way.

  151. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Not in bad weather, Wait……It’s god-awful out here.

    Also, I was hardly the only one picking apart AJ’s performance…..

    Believe me, I love baseball and I love the Yankees, but in my mind I am being realistic about the chances of this team. Optimists always think realists are being pessimistic.

  152. vin June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    The comments section seems to be in its usual form today. Glad to see the whiners, panickers, and trolls were able to pay their cable/dsl bill for the month.

  153. StopRaiining June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    “El Nino at SS, he’s a promising SS hopefully the XBHs come along soon. ”

    Agree, but apart from yesterday, I see progress in his offense.

  154. Bob(the original) June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    JohnC June 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Bob:

    Thats one of the best ideas I’ve ever seen on this forum. I wish some posters would actually take your suggestion, but unfortunately, they won’t.

    ————————–

    It really is embarrassing.

    I honestly beleive that a large number of these so called fans, really aren’t fans of the game at all. They just want the Yankees to win and have no grasp at all of how baseball works.

    We have a very good team this season. Sure there are flaws with it and there is no way of knowing how it all will end up. But what is wrong with watching and enjoying how the LONG season plays out before acting like complete imbeciles everytime the team loses a game or two or a player goes in a slump?

  155. DB June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Pete, don’t forget to mention that last night was the first game the Yanks lost when holding the opponent to 3 runs since last year. I guess we can make that 2 now.

    There aren’t going to cancel this game. The rain is at the tail end and they got all day to wait. A few reports I’ve heard (880 radio) said they are going to make every effort to get this game in.

  156. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Last night was probably the first post game interview from Wang I ever heard.

    Fatherhood changes a man.

  157. Joe, Cranston RI June 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    VOTE FOR TEIX FOR THE ALL STAR. GO TO MLB.COM

  158. 97 Yank June 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Forget about Tampa

    The team to watch in the WC chase is the Angels. They have won 6 in a row, just swept the red-hot Giants on the road.

    They have had more injuries and misfortune than any team in baseball by far and now they are right there. And they are only going to get better once Santana and Lackey get back into shape. They too will be in on some bullpen arms like us.

    The Rays are a big threat to us, but the Angels are the team to watch.

  159. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    andrew,

    i hope joba’s problems are just mechanical but his drop in velocity ought to be an eyebrow-raiser. somehow, it continues to get glossed over and that confuses me. of course, the organization is privy to plenty of information that i don’t have, so i assume he’s healthy.

    to say he’s going to go on a run, i dunno man. how many starts has he had this year where he was off mechanically? all but two by my count. whatever his problem is, he and eiland need to figure it out.

  160. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    The two teams do not have a mutual off day for the rest of the year that puts them in the same part of the country.

  161. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    this article out today about A-Rod slumping. not only is spring training over, now it’s blamed on the surgery

    http://kl.am/Pws

  162. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Betsy, I know you love baseball but it seems that when they winn you look first at the flaws rather than the good that happened, which is of course that they won.

    I hope the game gets in. The US Open people say that the weather should get better around 1:00.

  163. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    The Red Sox are in the middle of a schedule that has them playing 12 of 15 at home. Given how good a home team they are, doesn’t it make sense they will gain some ground?

    Betsy,

    This team didn’t even start hitting until July of last year. Even then, they buried themselves too deep to be a real factor in the race.

    We are seeing NONE of that this year, despite all the obstacles they have faced with injuries and poor performance.

    That’s a sign of a good team.

    Don’t discount fight. If previous teams, say the ’04, ’06, and ’07 editions had the fight this team possesses, they probably have #27 (at minimum) already in the bank right now.

    You have to be able to handle the ups and downs of a baseball season.

    No team plays .750 ball all season. 1998 happens once a generation and not annually.

    They have hit a little lull right now and they will pick it up. That’s how it goes in a season.

  164. Ted June 18th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Leave kasey Anderson be He’s a quitter but at least he’s honest n consistent about it unlike SJ44 who’s a phony

  165. DB June 18th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    SJ, don’t forget Jays got Halliday, their only pitcher, on the DL now

  166. Eric June 18th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Pete- any news if game is starting on time?

  167. Mark June 18th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Betsy – You should know better. If you are critical of the team, you are referred to as a whiner, troll, or bridge-jumper.

    You must say the Yankees are the best team in baseball and will win the WS and have no flaws and everything will turn out positive or else your opinion doesn’t matter and you don’t know baseball.

  168. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Would MLB do a scenario where the Yanks do a double header against two different teams then???

    For example- if the Nats are playing at Citifield while the Yanks are home, the Yanks play their regularly schedule game in the afternoon and the make up game at night.

    Or is that the craziest idea ever?

  169. Tin June 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    somebody’s there?The game would rainout today?

  170. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    “Mike, if you’re trying to tell me that winning 2 of every three games isn’t good enough, I’ll have to disagree.”

    Me too. They’ve gone 22-11 over their 33 and that is a pace that wins divisions…easily.

    Of course, another may look at it and say “they’ve gone a somewhat pedestrian 13-11 over their last 24″ and preach that they have to crank it up a bit.

    Their play has been a little bit uneven since the 9 game win streak, but baseball is all about ups and downs. We’ll see another nice run before long IMO.

  171. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    I am very close to the US Open and its almost one and there is NO sign of let up

  172. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    I bet if given the same opportunity Cabrera dives again.

  173. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    For all you folks that sit and complain all day about these games, take a quick second and read Alex’s post at the Bronx Banter. Maybe it will help put things in perspective.

    http://www.bronxbanterblog.com.....ing-there/

  174. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Ted,

    You’re probably thinking of the troll SJ who comes on game posts. This is not the troll SJ. The real SJ will leave when the game starts.

  175. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    I would posit that the “fans” in here that constantly complain, think all players are crap, can’t play/pitch and don’t do anything right (yet they’ve won 37 games… huh…) are they same “fans” that burn cars and breaks windows in “celebration” of a championship.

  176. Bob(the original) June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Yahoo has it listed as delayed.

  177. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Erica, I’m just repeating what they said.

  178. pb4ugo19 June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Its great to see Cano, Cabrera, Pena, Joba, and Cervelli in a game together. I like the young guns, and their style of play. They’re an interesting bunch to watch.

  179. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    Mark-I didn’t call her a whiner, troll, or bridge jumper. In fact, I went out of my to say I respected her.

  180. Dave June 18th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    The 07 team didn’t have fight?

    The team that was 21-29, 14.5 games out of the division on Memorial day and as many as 10 games out of the WC after the all-star break, played .700 baseball for a 2 month stretch to win the wild card. A-Rod got big hit after big hit, Posada had the best year of his career, Cano was red hot after the ASB. etc.

    That team also dominated the Sox after the first 7 games. Remember A-Rod’s HR off Papelbon? Rallying from a 5-run deficit in the 8th inning against Okijima/Papelbon IN Fenway? Clemens/Wang taking no hitters into the 6th inning on the way to sweeping them at home?

    So because they didn’t throw pies at eachother, they didn’t show fight?

  181. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Wow, sensible comments from A-Rod. Asking the fans to be patient is obviously asking too much of NYY fans. It is pathetic that they boo everybody whenever. I don’t know who goes to those games.

    As annoying as it is to use Boston as an example, you’ve got to hand it to their fans for being behind Big Pop-up all year, at least at Fenway.

  182. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! June 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    bryanhoch twitter:
    This is not a good sign. The Yankees had nickswisher and Teixeira shoot videos to entertain waiting fans. “Hang in there,” Tex said.

  183. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    SJ44,

    good points and well articulated.

    hallAday is spelled with an A, though. i dunno what that bothers me, but a ton of people on this board misspell the guy’s name. he’s only the best pitcher in baseball.

    anyway, this year’s rotation is a big upgrade on paper, but who has pitched consistently well? CC. joba’s been fine, but his velocity is a big concern, or should be. burnett has regressed. pettitte appears to be just about out of gas. wang is awful. i don’t care how big a sweetheart he is, he’s awful and last night’s luck against a mediocre offense doesn’t make him less awful. so that’s one reliable pitcher in the rotation. one. the other reliable starter is on ice in the bullpen so chien-ming wang doesn’t cry himself to sleep at night. not awesome.

    do i hate wang? no. i think he’s a shell of what he was before the injury, physically and mentally. i think he’s a liability every time he takes the mound, and he’s offered plenty of proof of that this year. i’m sorry pete is so fond of him. it must be difficult to watch him struggle. but i want the yankees to win games and chien-ming wang, right now, does not help them do that. quite the opposite. what’s the team’s record in games wang has started? anyone? please?

    thanks.

  184. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
    Erica, I’m just repeating what they said.

    *****
    I believe you. I am just reporting what I see out my window :-)

  185. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
    Would MLB do a scenario where the Yanks do a double header against two different teams then???

    For example- if the Nats are playing at Citifield while the Yanks are home, the Yanks play their regularly schedule game in the afternoon and the make up game at night.

    Or is that the craziest idea ever?

    ————————————————————

    It’s been done before, but, it’s really putting teams involved at a real disadvantage, especially if one of the two teams aren’t playing. Then, there is a possibility of a long extra inning game. What then?

  186. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Wait, I admit I’ve taken a turn for the worse since the Sox series. Before that, I was unnaturally optimistic for me….I understand the ups and downs of a season and that these guys are human. The Sox series just got me annoyed to no end, to the point where yes – I admit to picking even the wins apart.

    SJ, believe me – I don’t discount fight. However, they really are tempting fate by continuing to put themselves in holes and you know that when you run up against good pitching, generally those comebacks are going to go for naught. How many times is Joe Nathan going to blow a lead? That’s not even my major concern….the fact is, the Yankees need to fix the problems that they do have. I hope they can do it, but they are going to be in an absolute dogfight this year because the AL is very competitive. I don’t think the AL East teams have separated themselves from everyone else….

  187. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    ——————————————————————————————
    It’s been done before, but, it’s really putting teams involved at a real disadvantage, especially if one of the two teams aren’t playing. Then, there is a possibility of a long extra inning game. What then?

    ***
    Good point, remember last season when the Yanks and Mets did the crazy cross-town doubleheader. The first game ran very long and Sterling was actually hyperventilating on the air about how he would get crosstown in time for the next game.

  188. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    “Its great to see Cano, Cabrera, Pena, Joba, and Cervelli in a game together. I like the young guns, and their style of play. They’re an interesting bunch to watch.”

    I know, just think when Jackson and Montero possibly get pushed in 2010, I know Dunn is definitely coming up this yr.

  189. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    “Was looking for you earlier. Wang’s start. I didn’t see the game, what was your impression? I’m not sure if you commented on the game thread last night. RAB says it was similar to the Boston start, velocity there, location not all there.”

    91 pitches says it all.

    he was much better.

    groundball to fly ball ratio was excellent.

    location and consistency is still at a late spring training level, but as he gets over a hundred pitches a few games in a row that will likely improve dramatically .

    i was relived ,to tell you the truth, how well he pitched because i had no idea what cashmand and girrdi were going to do with him if he didn’t pitch well. i don’t think they knew either.

  190. Ron June 18th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Don’t both teams have an off day on Monday? Why did Lorenz say the don’t have a common off day?

  191. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    And yes I know Adam Dunn isn’t a Yankee GB7 :)

  192. Ez Rep June 18th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    The 04 team won the division and was the last Yankee team to win a playoff series. They were well on their way to another WS birth before that disaster. When a choke like that happens, it can’t even be explained.

    The 06 team swept 5 games in Fenway and won 97 games and the division going away.

    The 07 team rallied from a 11 game deficit in the WC standings to make the playoffs.

    The only team that didn’t show “fight” was the 08 team. Then again, how much fight can you show when Rasner/Ponson are starting 40+ games for you, Hughes/Kennedy don’t win a game, Joba gets hurt, Andy goes 2-7 after the ASB, and Carl Pavano starts 6 games for you?

    I love how people try to knock down past teams that made the playoffs and had enormous success to try and prop up this one, that is no lock to do the same and missed the playoffs last year.

  193. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Brandon- I thought the Cena challenge was today. I look forward to your match ups

  194. Mike Parch June 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Hello,

    Can someone shine some light on why Girardi didn’t send Arod last night once he walked in the 9th? It eliminated the DP and with Gardner on 3rd he might not even get a throw.

    Thanks

  195. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
    GreenBeret7
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    ——————————————————————————————
    It’s been done before, but, it’s really putting teams involved at a real disadvantage, especially if one of the two teams aren’t playing. Then, there is a possibility of a long extra inning game. What then?

    ***
    Good point, remember last season when the Yanks and Mets did the crazy cross-town doubleheader. The first game ran very long and Sterling was actually hyperventilating on the air about how he would get crosstown in time for the next game.

    ————————————————————

    It could be worse, but, there was one triple header with one team playing two different teams. Talk about killing a rotation. I forget the details, because, contrary to whatever zRandy says, I’m not that old.

    He is, though. He probably still has his personally autographed scorecard to “Little Randy”.

  196. jennifer June 18th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Do you think the Yankees want to fly up from FLA to play one game than fly back to ATL?

  197. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Betsy,

    You know how you fix those problems? By grinding every day. That’s how you do it.

    Every win you get is like money in the bank.

    As a season wears on, bad teams begin to lose interest. Those games that were “battles” early, become easier games.

    Teams that have to use their bullpen a lot to win games early in the year (like Toronto and Tampa) don’t have the money to replenish those pens. That means those teams begin to swoon.

    Look at the entire AL this year. The Central is a joke. You are only going to get one team out of there to make the playoffs.

    The West? The Angels will win and the Rangers will fade once their pitching burn out from throwing too many innings and pitches in the summer Texas heat.

    That leaves the AL East. Boston, barring a complete collapse, is a playoff team. The Yankees are better than Toronto, who will fade, and Tampa.

    You just keep grinding. I don’t see Arod hitting .220 all year. I see them adding a player or two at the deadline.

    Who knows, maybe a guy like Michael Dunn comes up the second half of the year, gives them 20 quality innings, and adds something to the pen.

    My point is, some people on here act as if this is a last place team. It isn’t. They have played pretty solid baseball to date.

    I happen to think there is too much talent on the team, unlike last year where the injuries really killed them, for them not to be in the race all year.

    You just can’t get focused on a bad week or series. Every team, yes even the Red Sox, have them.

  198. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    “El Nino at SS, he’s a promising SS hopefully the XBHs come along soon. :)

    Yeah I agree. If he ever develops into a gap hitter (doubles, a HR here and there) he will be a legit starter in the majors. Right now he is basically a singles hitter so better suited as a backup. Fantastic fielder and baserunner though, its fun to watch him play.

  199. Balboni's Revenge June 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    Well, looks like I will eat crow for being Wang on Wang. He pitched pretty well, unfortunately, he lost, again. I blame the defense more

    Hughes looked outstanding, again. That they didn’t keep him out there for many pitches speaks volumes, he’s going to stay in the pen for a while. I am okay with this. Joba spent a year in the pen, now he starts. We need Wang to be Wang.

    Lastly, I really don’t like Arod, the person. But, he’s also critical to this lineup. He’s hit a bad, bad stretch. The fans booing him relentlessly are making it much, much worse.

    Take a lesson from the Sox fans and how they treated Big Papi’s slump folks. Arod is here for a long, long time. Get over it and yourselves.

  200. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    “do i hate wang? no. i think he’s a shell of what he was before the injury, physically and mentally.”

    no offense as a person, but you know as much about wang and pitching as i know about music.

    you really should show a little humility when you’re talking about something you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

  201. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Mike Parch: see Pete’s previous posts re: Alex and stealing.

  202. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Brandon ! “B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !”
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
    And yes I know Adam Dunn isn’t a Yankee GB7

    ————————————————————

    Sorry about that Brandon, but, yesterday, it was just to easy to pass up.

  203. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    It could be worse, but, there was one triple header with one team playing two different teams. Talk about killing a rotation. I forget the details, because, contrary to whatever zRandy says, I’m not that old.

    He is, though. He probably still has his personally autographed scorecard to “Little Randy”.
    ****
    Hmmm- maybe Pete can ask Angel Berroa about the details of the triple header the next time he sees him :-)

  204. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    The ’04 team committed the greatest choke in sports history. That’s not fight. That’s choking.

    The ’06 team quit against the Tigers. Didn’t even compete in the last game. In some ways, that’s worse than the ’04 choke.

    The ’07 team got beat by a team they beat in every game they played against them in the regular season. That’s also not fight.

    This team has the fight the Dynasty Teams had. They don’t have the results yet but, they have the fight.

    We have the rest of the year to see if they can get the results everybody seeks.

  205. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    “I know, just think when Jackson and Montero possibly get pushed in 2010, I know Dunn is definitely coming up this yr.”

    Maybe Jackson. As much as it’d be nice to have Montero up in the bigs, you really think he’ll be up in 2010? I would think that they would want to take their time with him.

  206. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Was Gardner stealing 3rd on orders last night?

  207. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    “Those of us who have the SHOCKING opinion that this is actually a good ballclub need to take notice of this stuff.”

    ———

    here is the problem, IMO.

    Fans in here, during the preseason, were predicting the Yanks to win between 100-110 games.

    Expectations were so high that this team was destined to “fail”.

    The Red Sox, for example, set their goal every single year not to win the World Series, but to make the playoffs. Once you get to the playoffs, of course you want to win, but when you set a goal of winning the title every year, it’s tough to feel any sense of accomplishment. Also, you’re destined to fail more often than not.

    If the Yankees, make the playoffs, which they are on pace to do right now, it’s fine with me.

    Then we can see if their pitching can carry them to #27.

    But stop pretending this is a perfect team. It’s not.

    But… it’s a team that’s good enough to get to the dance.

  208. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    It’s thursday already ? he’ll prbly use the rain as an excuse Erica.

  209. johnny d. June 18th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Yeah, just like Tampa was supposed to fade last year, right?

    You would think after missing the playoffs last year, our fans wouldn’t be as arrogant. We are not guaranteed to make the playoffs. It’s going to be a fight all year.

  210. Peter Abraham June 18th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Kasey:

    I apologize for feeling sympathy for a guy who was severely injured, whose wife was about to have a baby and who has never done anything but everything the Yankees have asked of him without giving them an ounce of trouble.

    If that makes me a lousy reporter, so be it. But his teammates and manager feel the same way and wanted to give the guy a chance. I guess they’re all wrong, too.

    I’d rather be that than be a miserable bottomless pit of despair like you. When it comes down to it, you’re just a troll. You wait until the team plays poorly then you parachute in and try and spread your gospel of gloom just to get a reaction. When they’re winning, you’re nowhere to be found.

  211. Hokiehill June 18th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    man, this board blew up while I was at lunch…I’m quitting for the day! Good luck everyone and go Yankees!

  212. jennifer June 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    I’m so glad school is out, this blog turns into such nonsense. People jumping off the bandwagon because they lost a game. Give me a break and chill out. Baseball is a game of peaks and valleys.

  213. m June 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    lol at the people arguing with kasey. Just let him be, old kasey is back. ;)

    And not so lol @ the people who follow the minor leaguers with such a passion and then dismiss their contributions at the major league level. Like it’s some kind of luck or something. Like Alex himself has never been gifted with a dropped pop-up or anything.

    Just enjoy the game, because you never know what you’re going to get. Even from the AAAA lineups we sometimes throw out there.

  214. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    SJ, good points…and I agree, that the people that think the team just flat out stinks are way over the top.

    Hughes in the pen all year is a mistake. Hughes being used as Wang’s caddy (and basically not pitching outside of his games) is a mistake. I’m fine with him being in the pen temporarily – he’s getting on the job training at the highest level and doing very well – but only temporarily. I’m hoping Joba will hit his innings limits, go to the pen and then will be replaced by Phil. However, given that Joba doesn’t go deep into games, he may not hit the innings limits before the end of the year.

    YES pissed me off. I watched the replay of the game just to catch Phil’s K of Zimmerman (such a thing of beauty) and they skipped right over that…..after they showed Tex’s great play, they went right to the 8th inning.

  215. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    “Maybe Jackson. As much as it’d be nice to have Montero up in the bigs, you really think he’ll be up in 2010? I would think that they would want to take their time with him.”

    late 2010 for Jesus, Jackson will prbly be summer.

  216. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Yes Brandon- it is definitely Thursday :-)

    That Cena is a no-good bag of excuses.

  217. 7*7 June 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Francessa calling out the idiocy of the fans who wanted Cano to bunt, or A-Rod to try and steal

  218. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Everyone is freaking out about the Sox but get them away from Fenway and it’s a completely different team. Everyone in that lineup except Jason Bay have pretty extreme home-away splits. The green monster REALLY helps guys like Youkilis, Lowell and Pedroia

  219. Hokiehill June 18th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    no worries Pete, I like Wang too…and I like the Yankees alot better when he’s pitching like Wang…

  220. jennifer June 18th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    You tell him PETE!!

  221. Scorpio June 18th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    As annoying as it is to use Boston as an example, you’ve got to hand it to their fans for being behind Big Pop-up all year, at least at Fenway.
    ….
    I’m not going to hand anything to Fenway fans who think chanting “Yankees Suck” is the equivalent of a rally cry. They turned on Manny, Nomar, Pedro etc. at the drop of a dime, good thing Bay has picked up the slack or they’d have been whining for the next century.

    A-Rod shouldn’t be boo’d but HE himself hasn’t been so endearing to fans since coming to NY. If Mo & Derek can be boo’d, anyone can be boo’d.

  222. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    “Good point, remember last season when the Yanks and Mets did the crazy cross-town doubleheader. The first game ran very long and Sterling was actually hyperventilating on the air about how he would get crosstown in time for the next game.”

    Horrendous game. 90+ degrees with 100% humidity. As it was a rare Fri day game many stadium workers weren’t there. It took an hour just to get through the gates.

    Delgado had 10 RBI’s or something.

  223. Fireman June 18th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Dave,

    People think pies and loud music equals “fight” and “heart”.

    Same reason everyone kills Cano while giving Swisher a pass.

  224. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Francesca just repeated what i said last nite: Lannan deserved to win and good for him…the Yanks will survive

  225. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Applause Pete.

  226. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    “no offense as a person, but you know as much about wang and pitching as i know about music.”

    no offense taken. enlighten me. his confidence and mechanics are intact? then that means he’s just a bad pitcher.

    can’t have it both ways. either he’s shaken up mentally and still recovering physically or he’s just bad. i would think the former would be preferable but i clearly have no idea what i’m talking about.

  227. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    I don’t know if Hughes is going to be in the pen all year. I think he will get more starts as the season goes on.

    I do like him being with the big club all year though. He’s one of the 12 best pitchers on the staff. IMO, like David Cone says, you find ways to get him into games.

    For the time being, he may shadow Wang. Since Wang’s pitch count is about set, that may not last much longer.

    That said, if Johan Santana can start his career in the same type of role Phil Hughes is in right now, its ok for Phil.

    I’m sure he would rather be here than Scranton, that’s for sure! lol

  228. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    whether you like Wang or not, the fact that a healthy and productive Wang vaults the Yankees back amongst the best pitching staffs in baseball cannot be ignored.

    Having Wang return to form would be one of the biggest “mid-season trades” that any team will make.

    Wang isn’t there yet, but as long as he can show improvement, it’s worth waiting it out.

    We’re not talking about a journeyman #5 starter here.

    We’re talking about a difference maker.

  229. pb4ugo19 June 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    ““El Nino at SS, he’s a promising SS hopefully the XBHs come along soon.”

    “Yeah I agree. If he ever develops into a gap hitter (doubles, a HR here and there) he will be a legit starter in the majors. Right now he is basically a singles hitter so better suited as a backup. Fantastic fielder and baserunner though, its fun to watch him play.”

    eh, at least he’s getting on base, I’m more intrigued with his defense. If those doubles, hr, come in later, then thats a plus. I agree, he is fun & interesting to watch.

  230. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Thanks Randy. After what he’s gone through, 3 runs in 5 sounded great to me but I didn’t watch so I wasn’t sure how it looked. Wang has been one of my favorite Yankees since coming up, he pitches well and deep into games and there’s no controversy surrounding him. He just goes about business. I hope he’ll have another decent outing next time.

  231. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 18th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Fans that boo A-Rod are not fans at all. How can you not appreciate what this guy did this year? He has a serious hip injury, one that requires major surgery. Instead of having that surgery, he opts for one that isn’t as good – just so that he can get back to the team. He is out there everyday playing – clearly in pain – and what does he get for his trouble? Boos. That’s right. The Yankees record improved greatly when he came back and still, the so called fans boo him. Not just normal boos – they boo him like he’s some bum off the street. They boo him worse than if he were a Red Sox. The rest of the league looks at us and wonders how such a great team with such a rich history could have such low class fans. I, for one, am embarrassed.

  232. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    “i clearly have no idea what i’m talking about. ”

    Well that’s obvious isn’t it?

  233. Fistpump Filbert June 18th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Any news on how long the delay will be? Not near a t.v. is the tarp still on the field?

  234. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    “As annoying as it is to use Boston as an example, you’ve got to hand it to their fans for being behind Big Pop-up all year, at least at Fenway.”

    ———

    Boston fans were down on Papi for most of the season. I’ve seen more “Ortiz needs to start taking the juice again” posts than “We still believe in you Papi” posts from Boston fans.

    Believe me. They were behind him but would have had no problem with ditching him for somebody who brought production.

  235. linkoln June 18th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    “i (kaseya) clearly have no idea what i’m talking about.”

    SMARTEST THING YOU’VE SAID ALL DAY.

  236. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    “Same reason everyone kills Cano while giving Swisher a pass.”

    not “everyone”

  237. CB June 18th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Ultimately last night’s game result will fade away into statistics, which is what happens with nearly all june games.

    The story of last night’s game was Wang.

    He’s clearly not back all of the way. But last night he looked much better. He’s rounding into form and that’s what’s going to matter in the long run of this season.

    The yankees season hinges on Wang and Burnett (though Alex’s physical status is growing more concerning).

    I do find it very difficult to understand how people are saying that Wang made no progress last night? It’s curious.

    Wang has been bad this year – but what’s more important is that he’s been bad at different times for different reasons.

    At the start of the year he had nothing – no velocity, no movement, and no stamina.

    Coming back does not even remotely resemble the pitcher we saw in April. Not even close.

    Since he’s come back he has been very inconsistent. And that inconsistency is simply rust from dissuse and coming back from his injury.

    But it’s coming.

    The start against Boston he had no command but very good movement and velocity. Last night he had very good command (just like he had when he was right) but his stuff wasn’t quite there. He didn’t have the great downward movement and was still up in the zone too often.

    Nonetheless, you can see it coming together for him.

    And that’s the big story of last night.

  238. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    People are all over Cano constantly because he’s “lazy” or “unmotivated”. This because he made some boneheaded plays while he was a younger player? Or because he doesn’t dive all over the place and get his uni dirty like mighty mouse?
    He’s a good fielder with range, a soft glove and a good arm. He hits for average and some power. He could use some better discipline at the plate, but that’s a crapshoot. Some guys just aren’t guys that draw walks. (Didn’t some people here want Adam Dunn the K machine?)
    It makes me a little nutty to see him swing at first pitch, but if he sees something he likes, makes good contact and drives the ball, well, he did his job.
    He had a 9 pitch at-bat. He didn’t K, flailing in the wind. He put the ball in play. Unfortunately it was right at someone at made an out (which he’ll do 70% of the time).

  239. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    “I apologize for feeling sympathy for a guy who was severely injured, whose wife was about to have a baby and who has never done anything but everything the Yankees have asked of him without giving them an ounce of trouble.”

    thanks for admitting to your sympathy. that’s all i was looking for, was for you to stand up and admit emotional involvement in wang’s performance.

    when the yankees are winning i’m nowhere to be found? i’d have to check the game threads to know the accuracy of that statement but you might be right. i’ll try and chime in more often when they’re winning and even things up a bit. then again, i’m not somebody who really pays much heed to being called a “troll” by somebody who takes every opportunity to make subtle and not-so-subtle digs at guys like veras, farnsworth and assorted others. they’ve got families and mothers too, dude. you want to have it one way, then apply the same criteria to players who aren’t your close friends. that’s all i’m asking.

    at any rate, like i said, i appreciate your admitting to your emotional involvement in wang’s career. that’s all i was looking for. i’m off his case.

  240. V Torch June 18th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    We don’t play the Marlins until tomorrow night. There is no need for them to call this game early. It’s not like we have to get out of here soon.

  241. AROD fan June 18th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    excuse the stupid question, but if a-rod has been roiding all along, why exactly would he stop now?

  242. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    “Believe me. They were behind him but would have had no problem with ditching him for somebody who brought production.”

    I know Boston fans can be strange motherbleepers at times, but is there any fanbase who would have a problem with a guy being ditched in favor of a more productive guy???

  243. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Erica, here is the list of major league triple headers. My mistake that one involved three teams.

    http://www.baseball-almanac.co.....gam2.shtml

    I haven’t found any details on the games. One thing to keep in mind, though. Back the, games were usually played in 1 hour and 45 minutes and seldom over 2 hours.

  244. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    If Pena holds on to the ball at second, the ump doesn’t screw the call at first and Melky doesn’t dive like a goofball Wang would have gone 6 and given up 1 or 2 runs.

    Obviously that’s a lot of “ifs” but if you think about it, Wang pitched pretty well. Huge progress. I expect to see an even better outing next time.

  245. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Imagine the confusion it would cause when Girardi flashes “The quirky bloop hit that end up scoring runs” sign.

    :D

  246. timor June 18th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    For rainy day diverson and for a truly hideous loss to a horrendous team, I offer:

    http://www.baseball-reference......6040.shtml

    I recalled attending and looked it up as a contender for “have you ever seen a worse walkoff error to lose a game?” following the Luis Castillo play.

    Remembered the 3-run walkoff E on a ground ball; had forgotten that the Orioles were 11-41 going in.

  247. Milton June 18th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    “excuse the stupid question, but if a-rod has been roiding all along, why exactly would he stop now?”

    The simple answer: He wouldn’t. He is simply taking an undetectable substance or HGH.

    His legacy is already ruined and is a cheater. He admitted he cheated, it’s not like Sosa where it was assumed he took them but there was no hard proof (until now). A-Rod has nothing to lose by continuing to take them.

  248. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    “spread your gospel of gloom just to get a reaction.”

    by the way this, coming from a guy who has become a caricature of himself and posts rants just to drive up blog traffic is rich.

    funny how your tune on me changed once i knocked wang. i believe it was last year you posted something about me that runs perpendicular to your most recent assessment of my status on this blog.

    maybe if i was taking shots at veras, berroa and arod i’d be okay in your book, huh?

    your hypocrisy is pretty entertaining.

    whatever keeps the people coming back, i guess.

  249. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    “no offense taken. enlighten me. his confidence and mechanics are intact? then that means he’s just a bad pitcher.
    can’t have it both ways. either he’s shaken up mentally and still recovering physically or he’s just bad. i would think the former would be preferable but i clearly have no idea what i’m talking about.”

    Okay, lets use your known “profession” as an example. Say you have a horrible injury to your arm and can’t play guitar. At all. Can’t even touch it for months. Then, when you’re finally on your way back to being healed, you’re told not to practice, to get your timing back, nothing.
    Then you play a handful of gigs in some small clubs, which go okay, but you’re not exactly wowing the crowd.
    Then you have to play 2 gigs at MSG, in front of sold out crowds. And you SUCK. BIG TIME.
    Is it because you’re a bad musician? Or is it because you were rushed back, probably before you were ready, and as a result had some bad performances. Would you be “shaken up mentally”? Or could we just say you were Kasey “his career is looking like Milli Vanilli” Anderson and no one gave you the opportunity to get your skills right?

  250. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Could see them trying some 3 o’clock start nonsense and trying to get 6 innings in before the rains come again.

  251. Scorpio June 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    When I’m at Yankee Stadium and a bad play is made or someone strikes out in a key moment. I’M GONNA BOO. I’m not going to sit there and be like “aw shucks! goshdarnit…”
    It has nothing to do with who’s who or being nice. Fans are passionate not polite. Hurling slurs, “steroid user”, holding up Madonna pics…that’s un-fanlike behavior.

    As Jeter always says, “they boo cause they want you to do better”

    Boo’ing is a right just as much as cheering.

  252. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Very true GB7-

    These days I get excited when the Yanks play one in under 3. Although, the sad truth is the short games usually mean flat offense and they tend to lose those.

  253. m June 18th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    CB,

    I only had time and energy to watch Phil’s two innings last night, and Flash and Kay were grading Wang. They said all the right things and then gave the grade. I think Flash said C+, Kay said, “I’d give him a C”

    What do you think? If he hadn’t given up the rbi triple to Nick Johnson, would they have graded him better? Or did they think his stuff was not up to snuff.

    Considering that Wang has had an arduous journey (no thanks to the Yankees), and basically had a gun to his head with no help from the ump and his defense in one particular inning. I thought the reaction all around would’ve been better.

    I guess it’s an effort vs. results kind of thing.

    What would you have graded him?

  254. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    “I know Boston fans can be strange motherbleepers at times, but is there any fanbase who would have a problem with a guy being ditched in favor of a more productive guy???”

    ——-

    probably not.

    my point was that Boston fans didn’t do anything any other fans would do.

    they did, in fact, turn on Papi. I suppose they didn’t boo him as much as some fans boo ARod (which I don’t agree with)
    but they were just as unhappy about him.

  255. Soda June 18th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    How can a team that made the playoffs 13 years in a row have less “fight” than a team that didn’t make it last year might not this year?

    If we miss the playoffs this year, will people still say this team had heart and fight?

  256. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    SJ44
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
    I don’t know if Hughes is going to be in the pen all year. I think he will get more starts as the season goes on.

    I do like him being with the big club all year though. He’s one of the 12 best pitchers on the staff. IMO, like David Cone says, you find ways to get him into games.

    For the time being, he may shadow Wang. Since Wang’s pitch count is about set, that may not last much longer.

    That said, if Johan Santana can start his career in the same type of role Phil Hughes is in right now, its ok for Phil.

    I’m sure he would rather be here than Scranton, that’s for sure! lol

    ————————————————————

    No offense to the good people of Scranton, but, Hughes would probably prefer Philadelphia to Scranton.

    With regards – WC Fields.

  257. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    I am sorry, but if I got booed everytime I made a mistake at work- it would bother me

  258. sab June 18th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    i’m far from worried about this team this year…but isn’t that what everyone was saying LAST year…”its only June”, “they’ll start hitting when the weather gets warmer”, “just wait until so and so starts pitching better”, “all we need is a trade at the deadline for (insert name here)”…
    and where did that get them last year? yes maybe some people are a little too critical…but isn’t making excuses that its too early and saying that the season is a marathon just as bad?

    i agree that winning 2 out of 3 is a great thing…but if we lose 3 out of 3 in a series shouldn’t it make winning 3 out of 3 to the nationals that much more important? and yes its only june (saying it sarcastically) but these aren’t the redsox or phillies – its the nationals – as bad as they were last year if they had won those extra games against the reds, pirates and orioles then maybe..just maybe..that would have been the difference between making the playoffs and not….

    and you know what – its not only the rays they have to worry about for the wild card…it looks like maybe texas and the angels have a decent shot at that WC as well – and they win their games against the padres, astros and the slop of the NL…

    its games like these that come back in september and bite them in the rear..

  259. Dr. Cox June 18th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Scorpio,

    It different with A-Rod.

    Matusi has been leaving tons of men on base lately, but he doesn’t hear a thing.

    A-Rod gets it mercilessly and it’s just not fair.

    Next time I go to a game I am making a sign that says “STOP BOOING A-ROD!”

  260. Wes June 18th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    “If Pena holds on to the ball at second, the ump doesn’t screw the call at first and Melky doesn’t dive like a goofball Wang would have gone 6 and given up 1 or 2 runs.”

    Whose to say that we would of ended up winning the game if Pena held onto the ball and Melky caught it? The offense just wasn’t there.

  261. Wes June 18th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    “No offense to the good people of Scranton, but, Hughes would probably prefer Philadelphia to Scranton.

    With regards – WC Fields.”

    No offense taken. Scranton’s not that bad.

  262. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
    Very true GB7-

    These days I get excited when the Yanks play one in under 3. Although, the sad truth is the short games usually mean flat offense and they tend to lose those.

    ————————————————————

    Not sure if you read the bottom of the link, but, did you see where the 1928 Braves played 9 consecutive double headers? OUCH!!!

  263. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    We always lose games when the weather is wet

    Opening day Baltimore – Loss
    Both home games vs. Boston – Loss
    Both home games vs. Tampa – Loss
    Game in Texas – Loss
    Game home vs. Texas – Loss
    All 3 games in Boston – Loss
    Sat. game vs. Mets- Loss

  264. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Dr. Cox:
    Alex is, and always will be, held to a different standard. Don’t you know he’s not a True Yankee ™?
    He had an MVP year and was still booed in the playoffs. Unless he hits .400, drives in every runner, never strikes out, and hits 3 HRs each playoff/WS game, he’ll always be booed. And even if he did that and started slow the next year, he’d still be booed.

    I think it’s crap.

  265. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    “Or because he doesn’t dive all over the place and get his uni dirty like mighty mouse? He’s a good fielder with range, a soft glove and a good arm.”

    That’s totally true, Cano makes it look so easy, on the field and at the plate. Sweet swing and sweet moves. I think that’s why people get on his case, or this “lazy” thing comes from.

    He doesn’t explode and screw himself into the ground at the plate or dive and crawl on the infield dirt. He doesn’t need to…he’s already there, slinging that arm across his body for a perfect throw to first…

  266. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    “Would you be “shaken up mentally”? Or could we just say you were Kasey “his career is looking like Milli Vanilli” Anderson and no one gave you the opportunity to get your skills right?”

    i would be a shell of the performer i once was, mentally and physically. which is exactly what i said about wang. his confidence is not what it once was, neither is his stamina, neither are his mechanics. he is, at current state, a shadow of his former self.

    please point out to me where i said he was never going to get back there? you won’t find it.

    what i said was he does not give them the best chance to win games right now. phil hughes does.

    if the yankees can afford to give away games in the effort of finding out what wang can do, it’s news to me. i kind of thought every game counted in a baseball season, but i guess at the end of the year, the yankees will get to subtract wang’s losses from their record because he was injured or recovering from injury.

    oh, by the way, if i spent three months playing music as poorly as chien-ming wang has pitched, for ANY reason, i would have to find another job.

    as for wang doing everything the yankees have asked without giving them an ounce of trouble, last i checked, he’s being paid an ungodly sum of money to do just that. forgive me for not spearheading the campaign to have a parade in his honor.

  267. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    kaseya, you tick me off. You’ve got some personal issue about wanting Pete to admit he cares about Wang? Fine. Say it once and leave it alone. (I’m not sure what it does for you to have him say it, though.) Don’t subject the rest of us to the mean-spirited drivel you’ve been spouting about Wang, again and again and again. That’s what makes you, if not a troll, then at least very, very annoying.

  268. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Fireman
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    Dave,
    People think pies and loud music equals “fight” and “heart”.
    Same reason everyone kills Cano while giving Swisher a pass.
    =====

    Cliches die hard.

    People are comfortable with stereotypes. It’s how they explain the world to themselves. For them, the baseball is secondary.

  269. Bill June 18th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Hughes curve to Zim was a great pitch. Not sure who called for it, but PH and Posada seem to work well together. Started Patterson off w/ curves, doubling up on curves. Not predictable. PH was blowing his FB by people too. He looked good.

  270. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    “Whose to say that we would of ended up winning the game if Pena held onto the ball and Melky caught it? The offense just wasn’t there.”

    Learn to read please. I wasn’t talking about winning and losing. I was talking about the perception people would have had on Wang’s start. If those things didn’t happen (things out of the control of Wang) we’d be talking about how awesome he looked. Instead there are several people on here whining about how he didn’t show any improvement.

  271. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Here’s Mike’s show in a nutshell thus far…

    Cano has been on fire. You don’t want to take it out of his hands.(repeat 4 times)

    Cano is red hot, he’s sizzling hot.(repeat 4 times)

  272. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    ——————————————————————————————
    Not sure if you read the bottom of the link, but, did you see where the 1928 Braves played 9 consecutive double headers? OUCH!!!

    ***
    Can we safely call that a record that will never be broken??

  273. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    also, the other phil, you don’t have to put “profession” in quotes. i don’t make nearly as much as wang, but music is my full-time job.

  274. DEN X June 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    The crowd is going to be DEAD today. 3 hour rain delay, bad weather, not knowing when the game is starting, Nationals etc.

    This may be worse than that Oakland game. I’d be surprised if they are 2,000 people at the game when it starts.

  275. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    I hate to say it kaseya but your posts are mind numbingly stupid.

  276. tampayank June 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    if the majority this blog had their way I guess AROD would be released or traded(impossible I know), the Yanks would be playing .500 or worse ball while AROD joins the Dodgers, is accepted and not booed every other game and wins 2 titles w/ Manny and Torre then becomes a huge crossover start….that would be life w/o AROD in NY…

  277. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    I stopped reading when he said the Yankees are giving Wang starts to sate his “ego.”

    The Yankees, who have spent millions to give themselves their best chance to win, are going to waste starts on a guy because they are beholden to his “ego.”

    I mean – where do you go from there?

    Which is to say, where do you go from nowhere?

  278. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    “they did, in fact, turn on Papi. I suppose they didn’t boo him as much as some fans boo ARod (which I don’t agree with)
    but they were just as unhappy about him.”

    Yeah, but A-Rod can produce one day, hit a homer and help win the game, but the very next day, he’s booed in the first inning. It’s insanity.

  279. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    “Don’t subject the rest of us to the mean-spirited drivel you’ve been spouting about Wang, again and again and again.”

    i’m sorry, ed, you’d rather read pete’s mean-spirited drivel about arod, veras and berroa? your call.

    pete’s hypocrisy bothered and bothers me to no end. unfortunately, his blog is one of few places frequented by people who actually know what they’re talking about. i could leave, but i’d miss SJ44 and randy’s perspectives, and nick’s humor, etc.

    plus, when he’s not being a hypocrite, pete does good work. unfortunately, that’s happening less and less.

  280. Wes June 18th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    “Learn to read please. I wasn’t talking about winning and losing. I was talking about the perception people would have had on Wang’s start. If those things didn’t happen (things out of the control of Wang) we’d be talking about how awesome he looked. Instead there are several people on here whining about how he didn’t show any improvement.”

    Didn’t read it like that, but now that you clarified a little more I understand where your coming from.

  281. miggs June 18th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    All this rain must bring out the lunatics.

    Its the same whining, complaining posts from the usual suspects. Find something to be upset about, negative about.

    The hand-wringing will never stop. Its part of this blog.

    Personally, I can’t comprehend all the crap written about Cano. Its unbelievable.

    Cano has 82 hits this year. That’s 8th most in the majors. He has scored 45 runs this year so far. That’s 7 behind the major league leader, all while hitting 5th or lower in the lineup. He has 20 strikeouts on the year in 280 plate appearances. That’s one out of every 14 at bats. Anyone realize how impressive these numbers are?

    All this while playing an amazing 2nd base. Gliding to balls that other 2nd baseman couldn’t ever get to. Making the difficult look easy.

    I’ll say this as simply as I can: Cano is not the problem. He’s part of the solution.

  282. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Sean Serritella
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
    Here’s Mike’s show in a nutshell thus far…
    Cano has been on fire. You don’t want to take it out of his hands.(repeat 4 times)
    Cano is red hot, he’s sizzling hot.(repeat 4 times)
    ====

    WIth several bars of “Joba needs to be in the bullpen” interspersed?

  283. Coach6423 June 18th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    HAHAHAH,

    Caller on WFAN complaining we don’t have a 7th inning man.

  284. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    patrick,

    i’m sorry you feel that way. you’re free to stop reading them.

  285. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    I thought I asked this last night-

    but KaseyA, didn’t you get banned????????

  286. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
    GreenBeret7
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    ——————————————————————————————
    Not sure if you read the bottom of the link, but, did you see where the 1928 Braves played 9 consecutive double headers? OUCH!!!

    ***
    Can we safely call that a record that will never be broken??

    ————————————————————

    I doubt that Fehr and the union could even respond, they’d be laughing so hard at the suggestion.

  287. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    “This may be worse than that Oakland game. I’d be surprised if they are 2,000 people at the game when it starts.”

    Man, if I could go tonight, I would. I love those games when nobody’s there. The crowd is nice too, but being there with only a handful of people is fun.

  288. BR June 18th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    On a slightly different note, I have been thinking about what Cashman said yesterday about how this team is better with Melky in CF over Gardner. While that may have been true for the past 4-6 weeks if he or anyone else has not noticed but Melky is quickly falling back down to earth.

    His current line for the year has him at a .286 average with a .337 OBP. He has contributed alot this season, has shown some power, and has come up with alot of big hits but those numbers are far from stellar and far from what he was at just a couple weeks ago.

    On that other hand Gardner is at .276 with a .354 OBP. This is basically what we hoped for at the beginning of the season and as we saw last night if he is standing on 1B he can change the entire complexion of the game. Contrary to what Cashman said, if you look at it today I think the Yankees are a better team with Gardner in CF. And, if Gardner can keep with that 350-360 OBP he will be a lethal tool in the 9 hole of this lineup.

  289. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Pete doesn’t really “rip” Angel Berroa, because he has the utmost respect for his elders like a true gentleman, but at the same time likes to point out that the Yankees have a carry-over from their 1923 season who plays as well as someone would if they were born in that year. Also, A-Rod hasn’t really gotten ripped by Pete in a while. There is a clear difference between jokes and lighthearted off-hand comments than straight-up “ripping”. Veras, however…the guy stunk all year long, so who can complain about him getting criticized?

  290. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    “Caller on WFAN complaining we don’t have a 7th inning man.”

    You know, I won’t be suprised if one day years from now, the starting pitcher concept goes out the window. And a baseball game is played with 9 pitchers and everyone had their own assigned inning

  291. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    “WIth several bars of “Joba needs to be in the bullpen” interspersed?”

    We didn’t get to that point yet. I imagine he’ll say something about it within the hour except about 20 times in a row.

  292. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    “but KaseyA, didn’t you get banned????????”

    No, I think he voluntarily left the board after a couple posts were erased by our Supreme Leader, Pete A.

  293. linkoln June 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Let kaseya continue. The longer he goes, the stupider he sounds.

    Veras and Berroa?? LMAO. If that’s your gauge of talent, it makes sense why you “subject the rest of us to the mean-spirited drivel” about Wang.

    Picturing you foaming at the mouth with all your anger. Hilarious.

  294. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    “You know, I won’t be suprised if one day years from now, the starting pitcher concept goes out the window. And a baseball game is played with 9 pitchers and everyone had their own assigned inning”

    Tony LaRussa tried that a few years ago for part of a season, didn’t he? He had a bunch of pitchers pitch for 2 innings.

  295. miggs June 18th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    The hand-wringing over Hughes’ use is silly also.

    He’ll get his innings. He’s on an innings limit anyway. You don’t think the team has a plan?

    Bottom line, he’s needed on the big league team. He’s not going to the minors to get innings unless Wang and the other starters all pitch lights out, Bruney stays healthy and productive, and they acquire another bullpen arm.

    He’s too effective to ship him to the minors to get innings. 2 innings was fine last night. Now he can pitch an inning or 2 between Wang’s starts and still be available that day in case Wang struggles.

    Worst case, he gets his innings in the fall league or winter ball. But I have a feeling he’ll get plenty over the course of the year. JMO.

  296. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Kasey:
    Maybe you didn’t write the words “he’s never going to get back there” but you’re not exactly giving him a chance, are you?

    “Anyone who missed the game, wang was at 93 or less all night and his location was awful. he got lucky against a very mediocre offense. put him up against a decent lineup and pete will be scrambling for more excuses.”
    MPH is debatable, depending if you’re watching YES, using MLB Gameday, ESPN GameCast, etc. Location was “awful”? He had 4Ks, 2 walks, 10 groundouts, 2 flyouts. He gave up 3 in 5 innings. But it’s also a mediocre lineup, so that doesn’t mean anything, right? You’ve already written Wang off. Hughes, while he’s pitched well out of the pen so far, isn’t exactly a lock to dominate every start either.

    As to Pete’s point about doing everything the team asked, it’s not about being paid a contract. It goes to the point that the TEAM told him not to work on lower leg strength when he was coming off injury. That has been acknowledged as the main issue for his struggles earlier this year. Also, the TEAM took him off the DL and brought him up to the majors before he was ready. Where is he supposed to get his work? They can’t send him down and they couldn’t put him back on the DL without actually seeing him pitch.
    Each outing has been better than the last. His velocity is up, he’s getting groundballs and Ks.

  297. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Stultus-

    I am sure it was banned- Thats why he had to stick the A in his name. To get around the filters….

  298. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! June 18th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Coach6423 June 18th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    HAHAHAH,

    Caller on WFAN complaining we don’t have a 7th inning man.

    =====================================

    oh my lord. lol

  299. CB June 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    “They said all the right things and then gave the grade. I think Flash said C+, Kay said, “I’d give him a C”

    It depends on whether or not you want to consider the context.

    He gave up 3 runs in 5 innings. He struck out 4 and walked 2. He threw over 60% of his pitches for strikes.

    The defense was instrumental in those runs being scored. Pena simply dropped the ball on the steal attempt. Melky – no clue what he was thinking diving on Johnson’s ball. He could have gotten in front of the ball and held it to a long single that only scored one.

    To me that was a very nice moment for Wang – his defense falls apart on him. Two runs score. Johnson’s on third with one out.

    Wang easily could have gotten down or could have gotten rattled. Instead he bore down and got two ground ball outs to the infield stranding Johnson on third. It was clear last night that the offense was not going to score many runs so Wang needed to pick up the team and he did.

    Quite honestly it was pretty similar to many of Joba’s starts in terms of results. So call it what you will.

    But in the context of Wang’s pitching to date it was much better than a C or C+. His command was good (which was completely different than the game before – I think he might have been overthrowing in that game given the challenge of facing boston in fenway…).

    His sink was inconsistent – but it got better over the game. He looked much more like Wang towards the end than towards the beginning. In his prior starts he really lost stamina past 50-60 pitches and his ball would drift high in the zone and he’d get smacked around. Last night the exact opposite happened – which is huge. He got better with more pitches.

    On the whole I was very happy. To me there was no way you could expect too much more. He only really should have give up 1-2 runs between the defense and that horrible call at 1b.

  300. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Stultus Magnus
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
    “You know, I won’t be suprised if one day years from now, the starting pitcher concept goes out the window. And a baseball game is played with 9 pitchers and everyone had their own assigned inning”

    Tony LaRussa tried that a few years ago for part of a season, didn’t he? He had a bunch of pitchers pitch for 2 innings.

    ****
    Baseball has been heading in that direction ever since this 100 pitch count thing becamse “the law”. In 1996 you didn’t know what a pitch count was

  301. BR June 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Oh and just to let you know how bad Melky has been lately, his June AVG is .192 and his OBP is .259…

  302. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    “i’m sorry you feel that way. you’re free to stop reading them.”

    Indeed. I can’t get past the first two lines in any of your posts, I think reading your drivel actually lowers my IQ.

  303. pb4ugo19 June 18th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    “Scranton’s not that bad.”

    My uncle and cousins live in Scranton. I go there a lot to visit them. Its not bad, but I can tell you it can be depressing. (At times).

  304. RhapsodyInBlue June 18th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    kaseya

    Pete handed your your lunch, the 4 face saving posts by you after his changed nothing.

    Maybe you need some fresh air.

  305. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Still raining.

    If and when they play, I’d sit Arod. No point in subjecting his hip to this weather. I’m sure he’s playing anyway.

  306. Amos FrOtis June 18th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Well, for those who were all over Papi for his BA, glass houses, now people:

    Arod: .219
    Papi: .213

    Yankee fans expect more from Alex. It’s that simple.

  307. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    erica,

    a bunch of my posts disappeared. i had not been banned, but i was not allowed to post for a while.

    andrew,

    wang’s been worse than veras this season. that’s my point.

    linkoln,

    you should picture me with my feet up, sitting on the couch. trust me when i tell you my emotional involvement in this discussion is minimal. it’s a good timekiller when i’m updating my websites. pete’s hypocrisy bothers me, but foaming at the mouth? think again.

  308. Christina25 June 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Scorpio,
    Did you wanted us to cheer for Manny after he quit on the team?

  309. Christina25 June 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Scorpio,
    Did you wanted us to cheer for Manny after he quit on the team?

  310. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    . As much as it’d be nice to have Montero up in the bigs, you really think he’ll be up in 2010? I would think that they would want to take their time with him.
    =======

    No.

  311. Matthew B. June 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Sorta off-topic but I hate doubleheaders. A team is a lot more apt to split the DH then to take both games.

  312. They already beat us in OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    We are lucky the Nats aren’t going for a sweep today. But even so imagine the David & Goliath stories if we lose this one. Offhand, anybody know what Washington’s payroll is ?

  313. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    miggs
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    All this rain must bring out the lunatics.

    Its the same whining, complaining posts from the usual suspects. Find something to be upset about, negative about.

    The hand-wringing will never stop. Its part of this blog.

    Personally, I can’t comprehend all the crap written about Cano. Its unbelievable.

    Cano has 82 hits this year. That’s 8th most in the majors. He has scored 45 runs this year so far. That’s 7 behind the major league leader, all while hitting 5th or lower in the lineup. He has 20 strikeouts on the year in 280 plate appearances. That’s one out of every 14 at bats. Anyone realize how impressive these numbers are?

    All this while playing an amazing 2nd base. Gliding to balls that other 2nd baseman couldn’t ever get to. Making the difficult look easy.

    I’ll say this as simply as I can: Cano is not the problem. He’s part of the solution.

    ————————————————————

    You haven’t been paying attention. He never gets hits with runners in scoring position…all RBIs are because of home runs.

    He never gets hits late in the game.

    He’s lazy and never runs.

    He’s too lazy to make throws to first base proerly.

    He doesn’t dive for balls.

    He smiles too much. One of these days, it will cost the team.

    He doesn’t take pitches and doesn’t walk.

    I know that I’m forgetting other things.

    I’m sure that if you have time, you can think of other things wrong with him.

  314. Mackenzie from JetsDaily June 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    This Francesa conversation is making me dumber, though he’s right that there was nothing we should have done last night.

  315. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Matthew B:
    Maybe, but I actually miss double headers. Makes more sense to me to get the games in while a team is in town, rather than reschedule for a ‘mutual off day’ 3 months from now.

  316. pb4ugo19 June 18th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Talking about Plax now. heard the Buccs are interested. I hope he goes to the Jets. I’d much prefer him on an AFC team.

  317. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Is Francesca really saying that? Isn’t he usually foaming at the mouth about something the Yankees did wrong?

  318. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    KaseyA-

    You weren’t banned. You just weren’t allowed to post….

    Okay. Thanks for clearing that up.. hahaha

  319. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    other phil – i don’t know whether wang will ever get back to his old form. i don’t see how anyone could predict that. right now, he’s gone from awful to less awful. the yankee organization is definitely to blame for botching his rehab but they need to win games and i don’t see how wang is a better option than hughes right now. wang at his best is certainly a better option than hughes, but wang is nowhere near his best right now.

    rhapsody in blue – pete handed me my lunch? somehow, i’ll be just fine. it’s his blog, he’s welcome to step in when he feels somebody is out of line.

    patrick – lowering your IQ? that must be rough, given i’m guessing the starting point wasn’t that high to begin with.

  320. Eric June 18th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Kyle (Beverly Hills)
    Will the Yankees have any trouble signing Slade Heathcott, should fans worry about him being another Gerrit Cole? And how does he project as a player?

    Keith Law
    He’ll sign. Five-tool guy, chance to be the player that Austin Jackson … well, that Jackson probably isn’t going to be now.

    I know Jackson is striking out a ton and isn’t hitting any homers, but am I missing something here?

  321. CB June 18th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    m,

    one other thing that i forgot to mention about wang – he did induce 10 ground ball outs to 2 fly ball outs. That’s very good. Now while the result is terrific he’s still not quite back to form – it was interesting to see him work as his slider was very good – perhaps the best I’ve seen it. So he induced several ground outs on his slider rather than sinker.

    But on the whole in 5 innings he got 10 ground outs and 4 strike outs and two fly outs (there was an extra out there as wang struck someone out on a slider that bounced in the dirt and skipped to the back stop).

    But if you’ve gotten 14 out of 16 out by ground outs or strike outs that’s not really all that bad.

  322. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    erica,

    evidently my posts contained some keywords that aren’t allowed by the IT guys or whatever. i wasn’t posting anything profane so i don’t really know how that would have happened. somehow, changing my name and email address fixed it. so, pete says i wasn’t banned, but my posts as “kasey” didn’t get through.

    you figure it out.

  323. 86w183 June 18th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Mickey Mantle was booed for cryin’ out loud, get over it. If you want to boo Alex or Mariano or the Pope go ahead and do it… just don’t think for a moment you are doing anything helpful to the player you are booing or the team overall. Booing your own players is an act of frustration that serves no purpose other than to vent.

    I have a feeling Hughes will be in the pen the rest of the season, and if so that’s a good thing because it means the five starters are getting it done. People (including the Yankees brass) need to stop obsessing about the innings limits and targets. Things will work out one way or the other.

    I don’t know how you measure “heart”. The 2004 team had a ton of heart until Torre mismanaged the bullpen in games four and five and there was no one left to start game seven. I have never called that a “choke” because games 4-6 were very competitive. Game seven, admittedly was one of the worst nights in franchise history. I do like the fact that this team usually makes a run late in games when they are trailing.

  324. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Ha ha someone wanted to pitch hit Cervelli for Posada last night. :lol:

  325. old timer June 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    sick of it all. Tired of looking at this roster and seeing so many players underachieving. It comes from the top. Change managers before its too late. They are once again struggling under 500 in the last 14 games

  326. Eric June 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Charlie (NY, NY)
    Why did you make that negative comment about Austin Jackson? You don’t think he’ll be a good major leaguer?

    Keith Law
    I think his ceiling has dropped every year. I don’t see much chance remaining of him becoming a star.

  327. m June 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    CB,

    Thanks for that. That’s exactly what I gleaned from the post-game madness here.

  328. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    “BR June 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Oh and just to let you know how bad Melky has been lately, his June AVG is .192 and his OBP is .259…”

    Gardner .313 and .476 in June, .317 and .427 in May

  329. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Is Heathcott’s dad a gazillionaire like Cole’s?

    The name Slade Heachcott does have a trust-fund ring to it no? :lol:

  330. old timer June 18th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    ALex should get booed. Last night Yankees had a #2 and #4 hitter in their lineup both hitting well under 250. Thats ridiculous

  331. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    omg someone said bring in Cervelli!

  332. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Stultus Magnus
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
    “Or because he doesn’t dive all over the place and get his uni dirty like mighty mouse? He’s a good fielder with range, a soft glove and a good arm.”
    That’s totally true, Cano makes it look so easy, on the field and at the plate. Sweet swing and sweet moves. I think that’s why people get on his case, or this “lazy” thing comes from.
    He doesn’t explode and screw himself into the ground at the plate or dive and crawl on the infield dirt. He doesn’t need to…he’s already there, slinging that arm across his body for a perfect throw to first…
    =====

    I must have written a nearly identical post at least 20 times here and in other forums during the “Trade Cano!” clamor.

    You are right, but the truth is, people are comfortable with their stereotypes and don’t want to give them up.

    I would venture to say that if Cano did NOTHING differently, but looked like Rocco Baldelli, you would seldom, if ever, hear the “lazy” adjective applied to Cano.

  333. Eric June 18th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Charlie (NY, NY)
    Ajax is hitting over 330 this year in AAA. He’s fast, athletic, will hopefully develop more power. His only problem is too many strikeouts.

    Keith Law
    He’s hitting .330, but has too many strikeouts. That usually works out well.

  334. pb4ugo19 June 18th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    I actually agree with Francessa. Cervelli is outstaning & all, but I’d rather have Posada’s bat.

  335. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    These callers are dumb. Cervelli pinch hit for Posada. SMH

  336. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    kaseya
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
    “Don’t subject the rest of us to the mean-spirited drivel you’ve been spouting about Wang, again and again and again.”
    i’m sorry, ed, you’d rather read pete’s mean-spirited drivel about arod, veras and berroa? your call.
    pete’s hypocrisy bothered and bothers me to no end. unfortunately, his blog is one of few places frequented by people who actually know what they’re talking about. i could leave, but i’d miss SJ44 and randy’s perspectives, and nick’s humor, etc.
    plus, when he’s not being a hypocrite, pete does good work. unfortunately, that’s happening less and less.
    —————-
    Kaseya, you’ve missed my point. Maybe I don’t like some of Pete’s comments about players either. But, he’s Pete. I like 95% of what he brings to the blog. He works his tail off to bring us up to the minute Yankees news and thoughtful, funny commentary about the team. And as you said, he attracts other people who provide knowledgeable and thoughtful commentary. This blog has become my primary source of information about the Yanks. Without Pete, none of this exists.

    Then you come along and can’t accept the fact that maybe the blog has a flaw or two. You make it personal and repeatedly attack one of the team’s more important players to make a point about Pete. You incessantly do exactly the same annoying thing that you accuse Pete of doing to other players. You don’t give a whit about how obnoxious this is to the rest of us. Just grow up and realize this place isn’t perfect. Stay or leave. Just don’t make it worse by trying to play caped crusader against Pete or Wang or anyone else. It wears very poorly.

  337. Eric June 18th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Charlie (NY, NY)
    Stop it, man. You’re making me depressed by saying that the yank’s best prospect sucks.

    Keith Law
    By the end of this year, Montero will probably be their best prospect, and Heathcott may insert himself above Jackson too.

  338. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    “I actually agree with Francessa. Cervelli is outstaning & all, but I’d rather have Posada’s bat.”

    Don’t think your the only one.

  339. Scorpio June 18th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Christina25
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
    Scorpio,
    Did you wanted us to cheer for Manny after he quit on the team?
    ….

    Don’t play stupid. I really don’t give a crap what Sox fans do, just don’t try to sound holier-than-thou. And if you think the Sox could’ve won those rings without Manny, think again.

  340. Whatever June 18th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    If there’s a “window” at 3, does it come with a giant squeegee?

  341. Tom in N.J June 18th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    “The name Slade Heachcott does have a trust-fund ring to it no?”

    Dad is in jail for drugs; his mom was (is?) too…

  342. Jeter's Edge June 18th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    kaseya said on
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
    “erica,
    evidently my posts contained some keywords that aren’t allowed by the IT guys or whatever. i wasn’t posting anything profane so i don’t really know how that would have happened. somehow, changing my name and email address fixed it. so, pete says i wasn’t banned, but my posts as “kasey” didn’t get through.
    you figure it out.”

    Kasey, Pete cannot ban your name only your IP address. So if you were banned you would not be able to post at all from your computer. The name is irrelevant.

  343. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    US Open suspended 1st round til tomorrow…we’re still holding out another hour though, right?

  344. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    “You know, I won’t be suprised if one day years from now, the starting pitcher concept goes out the window. And a baseball game is played with 9 pitchers and everyone had their own assigned inning”

    Erica that was so GB meets DT like :lol:

    “I know Jackson is striking out a ton and isn’t hitting any homers, but am I missing something here?”

    Keith Laws an @$$

  345. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    ed h.,

    alright, i can respect your point and the manner in which you’ve expressed it. i’m off the wang thing.

    at the end of the year, if they miss the playoffs by one or two games, there will be a million hindsight “what if’s” as to what they could have done to make the playoffs. one of those will certainly involve wang.

    but, hey, maybe he’ll get right and go on a tear in the second half of the season. stranger things have happened. right now, i think phil hughes gives them a better chance to win games.

  346. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    I first have to agree with Pete because this is the first time I’ve seen this kaseya person so he must be coming here only when things go wrong. That said, I feel that most of kaseya’s points are right on and it’s hard to dispute them.

  347. Kasey June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Case in point, here i am, Jeter’s Edge, posting under that name. It is not banned.

  348. DEN X June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Francessa said he was happy for the kid last night (Lannan) and wasn’t upset about the loss. Said the kid deserved to win.

  349. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    I hope we play. I need my Yankee baseball.

  350. Jeter's Edge June 18th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    See!

  351. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! June 18th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Not raining here in central jersey, hopefully that will soon be the case in the bronx

  352. teddy June 18th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    why not a hit and run, not a direct steal, that should happen

  353. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    i agree that arod should not be playing today with the day game after a night game and the weather being crappy, but with pena playing for jeter it would ne berrora for arod and it just pains me to watch that guy play lol

  354. LA Dave June 18th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    They already beat us in OUR house
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    We are lucky the Nats aren’t going for a sweep today. But even so imagine the David & Goliath stories if we lose this one. Offhand, anybody know what Washington’s payroll is ?

    —————

    LOL, love the screen name. Also, the usual posters will tell us how this is not a big loss and it’s perfectly normal for the worst team in baseball history to walk into the House that Ruth Built and win a series (and should have swept us).

  355. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    you know what was really fun kasey?

    deleting your one song i bought on itunes for .99 :)

  356. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    “patrick – lowering your IQ? that must be rough, given i’m guessing the starting point wasn’t that high to begin with. ”

    Oh snap burn!

  357. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    one other thing, ed – part of the reason i took such offense to pete was that he stated that those ragging on wang had “miserable lives” and were “rooting for failure.” to me, that’s getting way too defensive about his buddy, especially given the way that pete has trashed others. do you think veras’ family likes watching him stink up the joint and then reading that he’s “worthless,” as pete has stated? that’s the point i’ve been trying to make. wang’s a good guy with a family who has been a stand-up, professional ballplayer. his struggles have been hard to watch, but it doesn’t entitle him to being treated humanely while veras gets ripped.

    anyway, you made your point and i appreciate the manner in which you expressed it.

  358. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    The Yanks will play. It’s stopped raining…

    Here in Savannah, Georgia.

  359. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    “Dad is in jail for drugs; his mom was (is?) too…”

    No but she has a drug problem. Meth addict who abandoned the family.

  360. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    “I would venture to say that if Cano did NOTHING differently, but looked like Rocco Baldelli, you would seldom, if ever, hear the “lazy” adjective applied to Cano.”

    When Cano’s mitochondria start to act up on him he’ll be excused.

  361. Dan June 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    “at the end of the year, if they miss the playoffs by one or two games, there will be a million hindsight “what if’s” as to what they could have done to make the playoffs. one of those will certainly involve wang.”

    Not necessarily. They will look back at games like last night and the Fernando Nieve game and the other games where we didn’t bother to show up and point to those as the reasons we missed the playoffs. Like last year… a combined losing record against the worst teams in baseball.

    Complacency will be our downfall, not Wang.

  362. Peter Abraham June 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Now poor Kasey is playing the victim.

    In fact, he was never banned. Several of his posts contained crude language that tripped the filter. That applies to anybody who tries to post. The paper filters out certain words because that’s how they want it.

    When somebody tries to ram the same post through over and over, the akismet spam program they use reads it as spam and any future posts are treated that way. Once I cleared the posts, his future posts went through just fine.

    Unfortunately, they haven’t invented a program that filters out posts from people who think a 46-15 record over 2.5 years is complete coincidence and that one loss in June means the Yankees will never win again.

  363. me June 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    “suppose they didn’t boo him as much as some fans boo ARod ”

    They didn’t boo him at all. Throughout his entire slump, at Fenway, all he got were cheers. What the idiots online wrote about him is probably a little different. At the park? Nothing but support.

    I don’t like ARod at all but it’s insane that Yankees fans boo him.

  364. 86w183 June 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    It’s pure idiocy to downgrade Austin Jackson right now and to say he’s dropped each year shows Law to be either a moron or no longer doing his homework.

    Jackson is the youngest player on the best team in the International League. He is just 22 years old.

    Jackson’s current numbers are .348 BA, .416 OBP, .459 SLG, .875 OPS. He has 20 extra base hits including four triples and is also 12-for-12 in stolen bases. He also has not committed an error in 61 games.

  365. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    “you know what was really fun kasey?

    deleting your one song i bought on itunes for .99 :)”

    unfortunately, i get paid for the song whether you keep it or delete it.

    i wish i could delete a few of wang’s starts from the yanks’ season but it’s not really that simple.

  366. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    pb4ugo19
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    I actually agree with Francessa. Cervelli is outstaning & all, but I’d rather have Posada’s bat.
    =====

    Is Francesa supposed to get some kind of credit for stating the obvious, here?

  367. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    “Several of his posts contained crude language that tripped the filter.”

    not true. but, hey, it’s your blog.

  368. Ronnie June 18th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Toronto on their way to sweeping Philly
    Boston was on the verge of sweeping them but still won 2\3.

    Whereas we were on the verge of getting swept by them.

  369. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    It’s still pouring on Long Island

  370. vin June 18th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Keith Law has been with ESPN for way too long. It’s clouding his judgement.

  371. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    “You know, I won’t be suprised if one day years from now, the starting pitcher concept goes out the window. And a baseball game is played with 9 pitchers and everyone had their own assigned inning”

    Or that some sensors detect if a thrown pitch is a ball or a strike with huge Jumbotrons informing us of the call with a booming voice.

    Jumbotron: *K*

    Batter: “What the eff, that’s BS!!!”

    J: *You are out of here*

  372. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    “Unfortunately, they haven’t invented a program that filters out posts from people who think a 46-15 record over 2.5 years is complete coincidence.”

    your tears must be blurring your vision, as nowhere have i stated that wang’s record prior to injury was coincidence or that last night’s loss meant the end of the season.

    you keep right on thinkin’, butch. it’s what you do best.

  373. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    me
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
    “suppose they didn’t boo him as much as some fans boo ARod ”
    They didn’t boo him at all. Throughout his entire slump, at Fenway, all he got were cheers. What the idiots online wrote about him is probably a little different. At the park? Nothing but support.
    I don’t like ARod at all but it’s insane that Yankees fans boo him.
    ======

    Sorry, Theo. Red Sox fans, amongst themselves, on Sam of Horn, and other pro Boston forums, were arguing amongst themselves whether or not the Fenway faithful had a right to boo Papi, with many saying ‘It’s a disgrace.”

    Apparently, you missed those games ;)

  374. Tom in N.J June 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Of course Montero is going to pass Jackson as the teams top prospect after this season.

    Next year Jakson will be in the Bronx. :wink:

  375. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Brandon ! “B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !”
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
    “You know, I won’t be suprised if one day years from now, the starting pitcher concept goes out the window. And a baseball game is played with 9 pitchers and everyone had their own assigned inning”

    Erica that was so GB meets DT like

    ***
    Brandon, you crack me up but i have no idea what that means.

    I just like to think I am a visionary :-)

  376. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    LA Dave
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
    They already beat us in OUR house
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    We are lucky the Nats aren’t going for a sweep today. But even so imagine the David & Goliath stories if we lose this one. Offhand, anybody know what Washington’s payroll is ?
    ———————-

    LOL, love the screen name. Also, the usual posters will tell us how this is not a big loss and it’s perfectly normal for the worst team in baseball history to walk into the House that Ruth Built and win a series (and should have swept us).

    ————————————————————

    How have the Dodgers played against the Nats this year?

    Let me help you. The Dodgers are 1-1. A 10-3 win and a 11-9 loss. Impressive.

  377. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    it stopped raining! here in besonhurst, brooklyn that is lol

  378. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Kasey-

    I don’t mind your opinions, even though I disagree with almost all of them. But do you need to be offensive???

    Why are you attacking Pete? He has done nothing to you, but provide a forum where you can post these comments of yours

  379. Joey's Poodle June 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Heathcott, from what has been published, is a kid who had academic problems in high school, whose dad is in jail and whose mother is out of the picture. Not a Gerrit Cole from an intact, well-off family of professionals who want their kids to get an education before going into the workforce.

  380. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Law is more interested in the strikeouts and the lack of home runs as a way to say Jackson won’t hit in the majors because pitchers will exploit his weaknesses and all that jazz. I agree that it is completely off base to say he is somehow now declining. They say power and pitch recognition are the last two things that come for young hitters, but I guess Keith has already made up his mind about Austin Jackson and once he does that he doesn’t really change it ever, from what I’ve read.

  381. Avid Sox Fan June 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Leave Pete alone! I hope they keep sending Wang out there! :-)

  382. JeterHughesJoba June 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Every stadium in baseball should have a retractable roof. Not doing so is a slap in the face to the fans. What about those who take off work to go to the game? What about those who have alittle bit of time to try to catch the game before going into work?

    These teams have billions of dollars. It wouldn’t hurt them that much to have a retractable roof so we the fans do not have to deal with this ridiculous garbage. Waiting around like idiots for a game that may or may not happen. Baseball is the only sport that has to deal with this. If Selig ever wanted to mandate anything, retractable roofs for all MLB stadiums is what he needs to do. It’s bad enough that they mandate socialism by taking from the big market Yankees and give to the small market teams that are not required to spend the money on baseball. If you must rob from the rich to give to the poor, why not do so to fund retractable roofs for all teams?

    Think about it, you look forward to watching or going to the game. Especially after a tough loss to the worst team in baseball. Instead it’s taken from you by another rain delay or possible rain out. To make matters worse, how many times do they start playing then have long rain delays throughout the game making the fans wait even longer? What about the possibility of injury as players are trying to play on the slick field?

    Once again MLB is showing they could care less about it’s fans!

  383. sab June 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    regarding big poopi and red sox fans cheering him…

    (most)sox fans are illiterate, beer guzzling, fight starting drones (save the few who post here) – so if the red sox front office tells them to cheer big poopi they will do so….once the front office decides they’ve had enough of him then the stories will come out on what a bad influence he is on the team and how its better off he were somewhere else and how eveil he is and no one should cheer him- its happened with pretty much all of their revered players (nomar, boggs, clemens, pedro, manny) –

    as for the yankee fan and arod – deep down they really want to like the guy – but he makes it hard for them to do so with his prima donna attitude – oh and the fact that he’s making 30 million dollars a year and so far has played like a bench warmer – was he boo’d in 2007? probably not…should he get boo’d when he pops up to second or strikesout during an important part of the game – if the fan who pays money to watch him play feels like then yes he should get boo’d

  384. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    86w183
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
    It’s pure idiocy to downgrade Austin Jackson right now and to say he’s dropped each year shows Law to be either a moron or no longer doing his homework.
    Jackson is the youngest player on the best team in the International League. He is just 22 years old.
    Jackson’s current numbers are .348 BA, .416 OBP, .459 SLG, .875 OPS. He has 20 extra base hits including four triples and is also 12-for-12 in stolen bases. He also has not committed an error in 61 games.
    ====

    I really could care less what Keith Law has to say. I covered the NHL long enough to know that scouts and “talent evaluators” carry biases, just like everyone else, when it comes to assessing players.

    Jackson is going to help the Yankees eventually. Who told me? Me – I’ve seen him numerous times, and have watched him transform himself as a hitter. He has some miles to cover before he gets here, however.

  385. miggs June 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Its pouring here in Fairfield County.

  386. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    you know what was really fun kasey?

    deleting your one song i bought on itunes for .99

    —————————————————–

    Now that’s funny stuff right there.

    You know I thought about a squeeze last night too but 1. Cano doesn’t bunt and 2. he’s capable of getting that run over. It was a good at bat. Maclaughlin did a good job himself.

    Somebody mentioned Arod trying to steal if only to give Gardner time to boogie on home.

    It was just one of those cap tipping games. A real one not a facetious one.

  387. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    In the old days, rain delays brought out “this week in baseball” – today’s rain delay brings us a Lohud soap opera. All we need are Fredreich AC commercials.

    Kasey thinks Pete loves Wang.
    We’re not sure how Wang feels about Pete.
    Wang wife’s had a baby this week. Baby looks like dad. No crisis there.
    Kasey had amnesia and returned as KaseyA.
    Everyone still despises Berroa, even though he was in the original Guiding Light episode in 1930.

  388. m June 18th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    I guess it’s possible, but I find it hard to believe that people can be so harsh on Wang.

    And I’m a Cashman supporter, but he’s irritating me with his comments about Wang. Especially since he screwed up with his panic call-up.

  389. Christina25 June 18th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Scorpio,
    Did I say anything about the WS? In you logic we should cheer for Manny even though he quit on the team last year, refuge to hit against good pitchers took his name off the lineup when he wanted, refuge to get to the airplane. Imagine if Arod did those things. Would you cheer for him? We appreciate what Manny did for Red Sox but to give him a free pass for this type of behavior? I dont thinks so.

  390. Tom in N.J June 18th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    OH GOD! Seems the Yankees are going to watch Pedro throw:

    “Those clubs, plus the Yankees and Angels, will watch Martinez throw on Friday in the Dominican Republic, according to major-league sources.”

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....be-limited

  391. 7th Inning? June 18th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    [1] Jeter’s Edge, it’s “kasey” with a lower-case ‘k’.

    [2] We don’t have a 7th-inning guy?
    Solution: use Jobber for the 8th,
    and Yuuuse for the 7th. Problem solved.
    [Hopefully y'all realise I am joking].

  392. m June 18th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    oops, that wasn’t clear. The first paragraph had nothing to do with Cash. Just the 2 or 3 people who have hated on Wang for things that are beyond his control.

  393. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Yogi8
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
    Bodhisattva
    “I would venture to say that if Cano did NOTHING differently, but looked like Rocco Baldelli, you would seldom, if ever, hear the “lazy” adjective applied to Cano.”
    ____________====

    When Cano’s mitochondria start to act up on him he’ll be excused.

    ========

    Thank you, “Yogi” for proving my point about you and your motivations. Not that it wasn’t obvious to begin with.

  394. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Pedro being caught by Posada. I would fly from Vegas to watch that happen.

  395. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    “Seems the Yankees are going to watch Pedro throw”

    Scranton could use another starter…

  396. Ronnie June 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    miggs,

    It was really only one poster complaining about Hughes and how the organization has no idea how to handle him and Girardi is a moron for not pitching him 4 innings yesterday, and other nonsense.

    I think we all know who it was. Thankfully it was only one lunatic, not the entire blog.

  397. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood)
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
    In the old days, rain delays brought out “this week in baseball” – today’s rain delay brings us a Lohud soap opera. All we need are Fredreich AC commercials.

    Kasey thinks Pete loves Wang.
    We’re not sure how Wang feels about Pete.
    Wang wife’s had a baby this week. Baby looks like dad. No crisis there.
    Kasey had amnesia and returned as KaseyA.
    Everyone still despises Berroa, even though he was in the original Guiding Light episode in 1930.

    ***
    I think this is called “As the LoHud Refreshes”

  398. Peter Abraham June 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Butch? Um, OK. Nobody has called me that before. But whatever. You really showed me.

    Anyway, enough nonsense In lieu of watching it rain, I’m going to go work on a story.

    Yankees are hoping the dreaded weather window opens in an hour or so. We’ll see.

  399. Jensen June 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Does anyone know if there is a txt message tool that will alert when the rain delay is done or some other way (from my computer, perhaps) that I can be notified when the game is about to begin? Thanks!

  400. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    “Pedro being caught by Posada. I would fly from Vegas to watch that happen”

    That’d be interesting for sure.

  401. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Kasey. Much like your opinions, your ego leaves something to be desired. Sometimes it’s okay to be a nice guy. Try it.

  402. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    “OH GOD! Seems the Yankees are going to watch Pedro throw:”

    If they can sign him to a minor league deal, why not?

  403. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    DT, I’m kind of enjoying this LoHud soap opera. It’s raining outside and there’s nothing good to do except read some good trash talk.

  404. Four hour June 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Pedro > Andy Pettitte

    Pedro > Anyone in the pen outside of Hughes/Bruney

    Certainly worth the risk. He looked excellent in the WBC.

  405. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    kaseya
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
    ed h.,
    alright, i can respect your point and the manner in which you’ve expressed it. i’m off the wang thing.
    at the end of the year, if they miss the playoffs by one or two games, there will be a million hindsight “what if’s” as to what they could have done to make the playoffs. one of those will certainly involve wang.
    but, hey, maybe he’ll get right and go on a tear in the second half of the season. stranger things have happened. right now, i think phil hughes gives them a better chance to win games.
    ————–
    Kasey, thanks for hearing me. I appreciate it.

    As for Wang, I think he’s worth the investment of putting up with poor performances to get him right. How many other pitchers do we have whom we know can consistently produce for the team at the level Wang did before he was hurt? I’d say only one, CC Sabbathia. I have high hopes for Hughes and Joba, but they are both still developing and don’t have the proven track record Wang does. Past performance is the best predictor of future performance and so it’s worth investing the risk to do everything to try to get Wang right. And his performances have definitely been trending to the better rather than the worse.

    Besides, it’s a long season and it’s a good bet that another pitcher will have to be removed from the rotation because of injury or poor performance. My bet is that, before too long, we will need both Wang and Hughes to perform well in the rotation.

  406. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    I was mocking that idiotic Frank poster with a Homer-esque statement.

  407. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    LMAO pedro and posada, now that would be interesting.

  408. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Where did you read that the yankees are looking at pedro? All i have seen is the mets and cubs interested…

  409. 86w183 June 18th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Bernie Williams did not reach the 20 HR mark until 1996 when he turned 28 in September. I see a lot of similarities in Jackson and Bernie, although Austin is not a switch hitter. I like the progress he’s made and think he should get a long look at CF next spring.

  410. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    i find it interesting that insulting my career seems fair in response to insulting a baseball team you don’t even play for.

    soap opera, indeed.

    unfortunately, i’m doing just fine without randy l’s .59 so losing a few more of those from the folks on this board doesn’t hurt me as much as my insulting a yankee pitcher hurts some of you.

    spread the word! kasey anderson’s music is no good plus he doesn’t like the fact that chien-ming wang is pitching terribly!

    somehow, i manage to keep making a living and sleeping at night.

  411. Stat of the Day June 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Papi’s average .213 is almost equal to Arod’s .219 with 2 more RBI’s!

  412. Sandy June 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    It’s just not productive to boo A-Road — or anyone on our team for that matter. Of course he wants to play well. Maybe too well — he is always wanting to hit a home run even when a single would do the job. That is why he strikes out so much.

  413. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    bodhisattva – OPPC member – Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    You proved nothing about me and my “motivations.” Say what you mean.

  414. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    86w183, if my memory serves me right, Austin Jackson killed it in spring training with the Yankees.

  415. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    DT,

    You’re killing me :D

  416. Loner June 18th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    The team can’t play in a little rain? Are they afraid they will get a little wet?

    Back in my day, we played through floods, monsoons, thunderstorms, hail, snow, sleet, anything. You played no matter what.

  417. andrew33 June 18th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Some well thought out posts here today from the regulars to Pete. The Yankees have come through a ton of times this year, they didn’t last night, but like it was said earlier, they battled to the last out (ok vs the nats ….but still). The pieces seem to be in place for a nice summer run. One thing that has concerned me lately …damon’s average dropping below 285 while he continues to hit homers to right at home with not much other production lately … is this going to screw his swing up all year or just a small slump ? Either way there should be plenty of time for Long to correct this.

  418. CB June 18th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    “I guess it’s possible, but I find it hard to believe that people can be so harsh on Wang.”

    m,

    I agree. To be honest I feel it’s as if some people were watching an entirely different game.

    The reaction to last night’s game has reminded me a bit of the reaction to the Red Sox losses. People are almost offended by them in a very odd, personal way. As if it were an affront to them that the yankees lost to the worst team in baseball.

    What I saw from Wang last night doesn’t even remotely correspond to some of these descriptions. I was very happy.

    Two weeks ago the panic issue was the bull pen.

    Now that the pen’s coming into form (without a trade… thank goodness they have such pitching depth internally – how many teams could ever jettison half their bull pen and improve it drastically…) people seem to need another issue to gravitate to.

    I guess it’s wang.

    BTW I also don’t understand Cashman’s comments at all. Just bizarre.

    But on the whole the team has three primary questions moving forward, IMO – Wang, Burnett, and the health of Alex’s hip.

    And of those Alex’s hip is concerning me more while Wang and Burnett a bit less.

    It’s not accident that the team has taken a step back as Alex’s hitting has cooled.

    He just does not look good to me. And what’s concerning there is that he looks worse now than he did when he first returned. Physically he doesn’t seem to be responding to more baseball work. I don’t know if he needs more physical activity (which I’m hoping – going from that intense work out rehab schedule to baseball may have led to loss of flexibility?) or less activity (which would be very bad..).

    But if they get Wang and Burnett rolling and a half way decent Alex this team is going to build up tremendous momentum.

  419. Whatever June 18th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    A-Rod is the new Papi.

  420. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Where’s Haiku-Man when you need him?

  421. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    “kasey anderson’s music is no good plus he doesn’t like the fact that chien-ming wang is pitching terribly!”

    To which people would respond, “who?”

  422. Bryan June 18th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    If the Yankees don’t win today they should take the rest of the year off

  423. Tom in N.J June 18th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    “Back in my day, we played through floods, monsoons, thunderstorms, hail, snow, sleet, anything. You played no matter what.”

    Where did you play, Nepal?

  424. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    “Butch? Um, OK. Nobody has called me that before. But whatever. You really showed me.”

    it’s a line from butch cassidy and the sundance kid.

    wow – my profession is being insulted because i’ve been unkind about a baseball team that none of these people play for. if somebody insults my favorite band, i don’t fire back with, “well, you’re a lousy accountant!”

    ed h – if wang gets right and helps them make/succeed in the playoffs, it was absolutely worth the investment. if he has a mediocre season and they miss the playoffs by a game or two, one of the big questions will be did they go with wang too long. no way to know how it’s going to shake out now. i wish they hadn’t started him in boston, though. that was a disastrous decision.

  425. tylaaa June 18th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Peter Abe is a doll

  426. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    they took the team picture without kei igawa LMAO

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yv4m...../s1600-h/1

  427. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Butch.
    Pedro.

    sometimes names make me chuckle

  428. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    “Back in my day, we played through floods, monsoons, thunderstorms, hail, snow, sleet, anything. You played no matter what.”

    Where did you play, Nepal?

    ======================

    :)

  429. Pete? June 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Why Petey Martinez?
    Tom Glavine is also available….

  430. This Year June 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    86w183,

    Could not agree with you more. Law is a smarmy know-nothing with an anti-NY bias. Ajax is doing splendidly at Scranton. Even better than Trenton last year– much better. And while he strikes out too much, he has cut down on those as well. We should be encouraged by his continued development– really encouraged.Will he hit 20 hrs a year in The Show? Who knows? But I would bet he’ll hit as many as either Melky or GGBG. If you get speed, defense and a good BA from your CF, you are doing just fine.

  431. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    “kasey anderson’s music is no good plus he doesn’t like the fact that chien-ming wang is pitching terribly!”

    To which people would respond, “who?”

    that actually got a laugh out of me. i’m certainly no household name but i’m doing well enough that i don’t need a second job, which is enough for me. so, people can keep saying “who” as long as the ones who know my name keep buying records and coming to shows.

  432. disco stu June 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    I was just listening to Mike Francesa’s show and a caller just asked him what he thought about Phil Hughes as well as he has out of the bullpen.

    Francesa’s response was “Let’s see how he does when he pitches like a real reliever and comes in back to back days or pitches 3 out of 4 days”.

    I would love to know how many times Joba pitches successive days when he was in the bullpen … I would guess he never did because of the Joba rules.

    Yet, Francesa maintains Joba will be this dominant 8th inning set up man if he is put back in the bullpen despite the fact that he has NEVER shown if his body and ability will not be compromised if he pitches multiple days in a row. His response was the height of hypocracy

  433. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    “Heathcott, from what has been published, is a kid who had academic problems in high school, whose dad is in jail and whose mother is out of the picture. Not a Gerrit Cole from an intact, well-off family of professionals who want their kids to get an education before going into the workforce.”

    Well, that’s a relief!

    Kidding..Kidding.

    It’s terrible. Hey at least he’ll have that mental toughness that some subscribe to so vehemently.

    Unlike our young Master Phillip Hughes III who grew up in the foothills of La Jolla and was lacking this toughness until recently when his Daddy bought it for him from Sotheby’s.

  434. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    I agree with you CB. Those are most definitely the 3 main issues. Any of those 3 guys alone are more important than the bullpen.

    Wang and Burnett have shown improvement lately. Even with that horrible outing vs Boston, Burnett is doing better lately. His last 4 outings:

    6 IP, 0 ER, 7 K
    7 IP, 3 ER, 8 K
    2.2 IP, 3 ER, 1 K
    7 IP, 0 ER, 8 K

    Not bad..

    A-rod is definitely worrying. If his hip is still bothering him we are in trouble this year. Hopefully he’s just working his way through an extended slump.

  435. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    “sometimes names make me chuckle”

    i get a kick out of these:

    anonymous

    guest

  436. Clint June 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    If they decide to make it up next Monday (only mutual off-day but presents travel constraints)… we get to face Lannan again!

  437. Avid Sox Fan June 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    No need for personal insults in here. Can anyone tell me if the Yanks won last hight?

  438. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    “that actually got a laugh out of me. i’m certainly no household name but i’m doing well enough that i don’t need a second job, which is enough for me. so, people can keep saying “who” as long as the ones who know my name keep buying records and coming to shows. ”

    Good for you, best of luck in your music career.

  439. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    I am not haiku man (Destiny Wears Pinstripes), but I am willing to give it a shot if it lightens this thread. Here is my (bad) haiku:

    Raindrops falling down
    Yankee fans are melting down
    I wish they’d play soon

  440. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Francesca is getting the dumbest callers today

  441. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! June 18th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    “Those clubs, plus the Yankees and Angels, will watch Martinez throw on Friday in the Dominican Republic, according to major-league sources.”

    =================================

    I can already picture Pedro vs. Posada under the O’Neill banner. I would take a day off of work to see that

  442. Pat M. June 18th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Does anyone else think that Alex is not right ??? Watch his hips as they open up when he swings, they seem very less explosive, almost trailing his arms….Both myself and CB noticed this last night in the 9th inning on a 2-1 fastball that he fouled back….That pitch he normally squares up and drives……

  443. KWAN June 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Just play it at the end of the season if we need to.

    White Sox played the Tigers last year after the season AND had to play a one-game playoff the next day.

  444. jennifer June 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Francesca is getting the dumbest callers today

    ************

    How exactly is that different from any other day? :P

  445. Avid Sox Fan June 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    I have to say the blog is much better without that witch Trish in here. Makes me want to post more often.

  446. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    “Those clubs, plus the Yankees and Angels, will watch Martinez throw on Friday in the Dominican Republic, according to major-league sources.”

    Probably a tweet from Mr. Henry.

  447. Huh? June 18th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Why are wasting time looking at Petey Martinez when Tom Glavine is available?

  448. Reggie Miller June 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    The Yank’s lost last night to the worst team in the majors, Washington.

  449. m June 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    “well enough”? I think you’re doing much better than that if you’re making almost as much as Wang.

  450. E-Rox June 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Nice haiku, Erica.
    Thank you :-)

  451. Rishi June 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Avid Sox Fan
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    No need for personal insults in here. Can anyone tell me if the Yanks won last hight?

    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    So if you can find you way to the internet to post this, why can’t you find your way to the actual score?

  452. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    “no need for persoanal insults here”
    except for Trisha – got it

  453. Alice June 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    “Heathcott, from what has been published, is a kid who had academic problems in high school, whose dad is in jail and whose mother is out of the picture. Not a Gerrit Cole from an intact, well-off family of professionals who want their kids to get an education before going into the workforce.”

    I’m sure he wants strangers discussing about his personal business.

  454. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    for what it’s worth, i apologize to anyone offended by my incessant knocking on wang.

    by all accounts, he’s a good guy. i don’t think he gives the yankees a great chance to win right now but, as i said before, if they can get him back healthy, he’s a huge addition to the staff. as things stand, i’d rather see hughes starting but if wang comes around, great.

    when this whole thing started, pete insisted that i had a miserable life and then emailed me saying he hoped i got booed at my next new york show. to me, making it personal like that when i’m criticizing a baseball player who happens to be his friend was uncalled for, especially considering he refused to admit that he was upset largely because he and wang have a friendship.

    but, i reacted poorly and apologize to pete and the readers of the blog for wasted time on my posts knocking wang and bickering with pete.

    like my music or don’t like it, that’s fine. it really does not bother me, aside from the fact that personal insults in exchange for knocking a team you don’t play for seem silly.

    but, i’ll try and tone it down around here as it is a public forum and there’s no reason everyone should have to put up with this stuff.

    so, keep up the insults or not. i could not care less. i’ve offered an apology and i’ll tone it down. that’s the best i can give y’all.

  455. Don June 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    “Pedro should get along great with MT”

  456. Little Lefties June 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Why are we wasting time on Martinez?
    There is another old lefty availble…..
    Tom Glavine.

  457. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Pat M., don’t forget A-Rod took steroids. It’s possible that they are starting to wear off on him.

  458. Bunny June 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Pat M, I was watching Arod’s hips but not for his baseball swing, if you know what I mean!

  459. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Thanks E-Rox. I totally felt like a 3rd Grader trying to write that

  460. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    ARod, Wang and Hughes thoughts-

    ARod is in a slump. I think I’ve seen him look like this before. I think worrying that ARod has something really wrong with him and that he won’t bounce back is premature.

    I have to admit I’ve been in the start Wang over Hughes camp. After last night I agree Wang deserves to continue to start; however, I think Hughes has to have the opportunity to pitch enough to be ready to start on short notice. Hughes needs this opportunity at the major league level – as I think he is the third best starter on the team and the second or third best reliever on the team right now it would be a complete waste to send him to the minors. How he gets that opportunity, though, I don’t know.

    If I had paid $65 for a ticket today, let alone $365 or $1,500, I would be really ticked off that the Yanks are trying to play today. Who cares about the fans, I know, but at the prices the Yanks want to charge don’t the paying fans have to get some respect?

  461. TIME FOR #27 June 18th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    So what do we do with a-rod? should we put him on the dl?

  462. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    CB, it seems like people can’t get past this tag on the Nats as being “the worst team in baseball.” They hear this and it gets the machismo flowing: “Anything less than a sweep is humiliating for the mighty Yanks.” Then they’re blinded to what actually happens on the field. Last night the Nats played errorless ball, hit as much as they needed to and got one outstanding pitching performance from a young, up-and-coming left hander. Yes, last night they played good ball and they won. That’s baseball for ya’.

  463. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    “I have to admit I’ve been in the start Wang over Hughes camp.”

    Oops, dyslectic. I meant I’ve been in the start Hughes over Wang camp. Sorry.

  464. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    You cannot nitpick anything Cano did last night. He battled and battled and lost. It happens. I don’t understand why Francesa has a problem with Posada being up in a clutch situation. I don’t know what the numbers are but Jorge has had many clutch hits in his career. Francesa is dead wrong saying that Posada is not as good a hitter as Cano. Posada has been the most clutch hitter on the Yankees for the past decade. That’s why we all put up with his subpar defense.

  465. Ward and June June 18th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Gee, kase, yer a little hard on the ol’ Wang….
    heeheehee

  466. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    “well enough”? I think you’re doing much better than that if you’re making almost as much as Wang.

    i’m making nowhere near what wang’s making. nowhere near it. i don’t believe i implied i was but if it came off that way, then i’ll be the first to correct it.

    i make a living. i don’t need to sling drinks anywhere or work at a movie theatre, as i did a few years back.

  467. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    kasey is there a direct link to any of your tunes?

  468. m June 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Phils had no problem figuring out Brad mills, who I assume they’ve never faced before.

  469. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Joba man set up!

    Fat man of light cola sings…

    Somewhere The Dog cries

  470. E-Rox June 18th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Erica, no problem.
    Thank you for stepping to the plate in D2′s absence.

  471. 86w183 June 18th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    It’s always interesting to see selective stats used by those who want to downgrade Alex Rodriguez. Yes, Papi has two more RBI… in 88 more AB. HE also has four fewer HR and his OPS is .676 compared with Alex’s .855.

  472. Pat M. June 18th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Sean, That’s right you’re a peaceful guy nowadays…..PEDS are not the reason for this concern, a bad hip is the concern…..He’s not right…

  473. TIME FOR #27 June 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    So is this game ganna be played?

  474. This Year June 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Kasey, I for one can see it from your perspective, even if I do not agree with what you have said up to the last post– whic was a completely reasonable and, dare I say it, a classy one. If Pete actually said that he wished you were booed, he should apologize as well IMO.

  475. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    “unfortunately, i’m doing just fine without randy l’s .59 so losing a few more of those from the folks on this board doesn’t hurt me as much as my insulting a yankee pitcher hurts some of you.”

    kasey-

    i have no problem with your music. i don’t know enough about music to insult any musician.

    i just don’t keep negativity around in my life,and you dude right now are negativity personified with wang.

  476. CB June 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    “Watch his hips as they open up when he swings, they seem very less explosive, almost trailing his arms…”

    Pat M,

    He does not look good. Usually he’s so smooth and explosive – and when he’s good that’s not coming from his arms.

    He’s just not rotating through his center of gravity properly right now. I agree with you – his arms are out of synch with his hips. It’s as if his arms want to do one thing but his hips just can’t respond through their pivot point.

    He’s not getting around on fastalls he usually destroys. And in turn I think he might be cheating some as he’s constantly out in front on off speed stuff. For a while I was thinking that it’s just timing (which it could be) but now it might be physical.

    If it’s physical to me the question is whether or not it’s an issue of him needing to expand his physical activity (which I’m hoping) or reducing it due to soreness etc.

  477. Reggie Miller June 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Bunny, You still at the trailer by the Hudson? What’s the special this week?

  478. jerkface June 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    You know who else is negativity personified with wang? My wife! heyooo

  479. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    kaseya, I’ll say what I said again. I think you made a lot of valid points in terms of the Yankees and that it’s hard to dispute those points. However, you’re starting to sound like Mike Francesca with your “I make a living with my music career” thing.

  480. kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    unlce ellsworth,

    http://www.kaseyanderson.com and http://www.myspace.com/kaseyanderson should have plenty of stuff.

  481. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Yogi8
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
    bodhisattva – OPPC member – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
    You proved nothing about me and my “motivations.” Say what you mean.
    =====

    Well, now, what did you mean by the mitochondria crack?

  482. Bunny June 18th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    2 for 1 special for good customers such as yourself Reggie.

  483. Bob(the original) June 18th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Any chance this turns into a night game?

    I wouldn’t mind, since then I could watch it.

  484. No Trisha makes for a good blog! June 18th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Let’s play ball! Go Yanks!

  485. Kernal June 18th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Looking at weather.com, there should be a window from 10 PM – 2 AM tonight. So they’ll get this game in, even if it is late.

  486. They already beat us in OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I’ll just present this witout comment:

    Brad Penny: 6-2 record, 71 innings pitched, 1.96 SO/BB, 1.55 WHIP, 95 ERA+, Salary $5,000,000

    A.J. Burnett: 5-3, record, 80 2/3 innings pitcher, 1.80 SO/BB, 1.45 WHIP, 99 ERA+, Salary $16,500,000

  487. Scott June 18th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    If A-Rod doesn’t start to show improvement soon, they may need to go out and get another bat

    Maybe someone like Holliday for RF

  488. Pat M. June 18th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    CB, You’re right…My suggestion to the LoHud folks, start watching Alex’s ab, and pay notice to his hips…You’ll understand what we’re refering too….

  489. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Avid Sox Fan
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    No need for personal insults in here. Can anyone tell me if the Yanks won last hight?
    ====

    No need for your presence, is more like it.

    Don’t you have a community to talk about little Dusty and the boyz?

    Or do you just crave Yankee validation too deeply – like most “Red Sox” fans?

  490. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    ok myspace got it

  491. Voodoo Child June 18th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    The Yanks will be busy as beaver on July 2nd, when Int’l Free Agent Signing Day arrives.

    Yet another catcher? Gary Sanchez.

    LHP Noel Arguelles.

    All this money being doled-out to these “phenoms” yr after yr, bust after bust.

    Remember the buzz about Michael Inoa (or Michel Ynoa, as he’s known in the D.R.)? That “once in a generation” 16-year-old who the As gave over $4M last yr? He hasn’t pitched yet, and Baseball Prospectus says he’s “years away”.

    Eventually, one of these guys might actually be the real thing. I guess that’s why teams keep throwing their $$$ at them: they don’t want to be the ones who missed out on the next Fernando Valenzuela.

  492. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Still raining on Long Island

  493. m June 18th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    kaseya,

    Sorry, bud. Totally misread you’re post. You clearly said that you don’t make nearly as much as Wang. Yikes!

  494. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    it stopped raining here in brooklyn for at least 30 mins now, the bronx should be clearing soon.

  495. m June 18th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    *your

  496. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    What do players do during situations like this?? Pay Wii Sports?

  497. RC 16 June 18th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    They Already beat us,

    We all know the AJ Burnett contract sucks. How anyone can pay $82 million dollars to a 32 yr old injury prone, inconsistent starter with only 2 pitches is beyond me.

  498. Dan June 18th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    If you think the Burnett contract looks bad now, just wait a couple of years when he starts losing some juice on the FB. Considering he is only 2-pitch pitcher as it is, it will be a disaster.

  499. MaineYankee June 18th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    kasey

    Would the results of last nights game been different if Hughs had pitched?

  500. SandMan June 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Is it any shock that Penny is doing well than most of our rotation for a fraction of the cost?

    That is just the Sux luck.

  501. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Avid Sox Fan
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
    I have to say the blog is much better without that witch Trish in here. Makes me want to post more often.

    ————————————————————

    May God strike me dead, but, I miss Trish being on this board, right now.

  502. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    “like i said, best i can do is apologize and tone it down going forward.”

    kasey-

    fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice and then the third time shame on me or george bush or whatever : )

  503. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    May God strike me dead, but, I miss Trish ***not*** being on this board, right now

  504. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    kasey, how do you expect people to buy your music if you don’t give them like a 10 second taste of what the songs sound like? Why would I just go there and buy it? Because you’re telling me to?

  505. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    I like Trish- I smile when I see her posting :-)

  506. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    yea einsteins the offense is the problem.. arod is struggling and they still have scored the 2nd most runs in baseball.

    do you know there is pitching involved in baseball also?????????????

  507. JeterHughesJoba June 18th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Wave Your Hat:

    I agree that it’s a joke that they’re trying to play today. The fans always get screwed. Too bad we never stand up for ourselves!

    They had a couple of other rainouts where they could’ve played a doubleheader the next day but didn’t. Now the Yankees are in much more of a bind with the 2 or 3 makeup games they have.

    I love the new stadium, the only thing it’s missing is a retractable roof!

  508. tylaaa June 18th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    “Reggie Miller
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    The Yank’s lost last night to the worst team in the majors, Washington.”

    *************************

    Thanks for letting us know

  509. CB June 18th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    “Would the results of last nights game been different if Hughs had pitched?”

    That’s a point that seems to be getting overlooked with all of this criticism of Wang.

    The Nationals scored 3 runs.

    The past two games the nationals have scored 6 runs.

    How is this the pitching?

    If you were to ask people before the game if they thought 3 runs would be a successful outing I think they’d sign up.

    In no way did the yankees lose that game due to their pitching.

  510. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    “Is it any shock that Penny is doing well than most of our rotation for a fraction of the cost?

    That is just the Sux luck.”

    no because he would have the higest era in our rotation.. 4.94

  511. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Where is Trisha anyhow?
    Do you think Jorge’s “people” got to her?

  512. tylaaa June 18th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Baseball is such a pansy sport sometimes. Play in the damn rain and get going

  513. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    Where is Trisha anyhow?
    Do you think Jorge’s “people” got to her?

    ****
    She could be hard at work. I hear people do that sometimes.

  514. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Well kaseya, I went to your website and it took me to red rivers records and you have to pay for the music. I don’t see anywhere I could listen to the song for about 10-15 seconds first. That would be a good idea to put on the front of your webpage.

    I didn’t go to your myspace page so maybe the music is there.

  515. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Please note Uncle Ellsworth-
    That was intended to be a knock on myself

  516. Jeff June 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Um tyla you cant really be throwing a hardball 95mph and not see. People could um get killed

  517. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    “no because he would have the higest era in our rotation.. 4.94″

    This is true for 4/5ths, you forget the ERA that CMW is carrying around with him.

  518. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    SandMan
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
    Is it any shock that Penny is doing well than most of our rotation for a fraction of the cost?

    That is just the Sux luck.

    ————————————————————

    I can say without a doubt that the Yankee rotation is “doing more better well” than you did in grade school English.

  519. MaineYankee June 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    CB

    Thats why the grade they gave Wang for his performance last night was way too low. He did for the first time this year what they had wanted. He kept them in the game. Seems to me that is better than a C compared to what he had been doing.

  520. tylaaa June 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    “Jeff
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
    Um tyla you cant really be throwing a hardball 95mph and not see. People could um get killed”

    Well that’s why you take risks

  521. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
    Please note Uncle Ellsworth-
    That was intended to be a knock on myself

    we all felt it though

  522. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    looks like the game should be able to get started soon, looks clear after this rain moves off

  523. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
    Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you think the joker laughs at you?)
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    Where is Trisha anyhow?
    Do you think Jorge’s “people” got to her?

    ****
    She could be hard at work. I hear people do that sometimes.

    ————————————————————

    Nah…she “quit” her job…wink, wink.

  524. BR June 18th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Is Gardner starting today because he deserves it or just because Melky needs a day off? Also, how much longer do you think Melky has to play poorly and Gardner play well for him to get his starting spot back?

  525. Jeff June 18th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    I have no idea what you mean by risks

  526. Amos FrOtis June 18th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Kaseya –

    “when this whole thing started, pete insisted that i had a miserable life and then emailed me saying he hoped i got booed at my next new york show.”

    If this is indeed true, just Wow. Can’t ever see Sweeney or Kim Jones expressing that to a poster.

    Pete’s a big baby – WAAAAAY too protective of his favs.

  527. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don’t you

    we all felt it though
    ***

    Aww- I am sorry. I would never intentionally offend anyone like that. I don’t judge how others spend their working hours. As long as their slacking doesn’t effect me ;-)

  528. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Its after 3 already. By the time this game starts it’ll be a night game

  529. Hokiehill June 18th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Anyone near YS have a weather update…the weather channel radar is showing that window opening up closer to 6…just curious what it looks like live

  530. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    I have to wonder if Kasey is paying LoHud for advertising space for his “chuckle, chortle” music.

  531. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Erica
    was kidding – Just so you know

  532. Alice June 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    “I can say without a doubt that the Yankee rotation is “doing more better well” than you did in grade school English.”

    Yeah because your grammar is terrific, he/she is just giving an opinion. Take it easy

  533. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Can we make a separate Kaseya thread? Boring.

  534. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    “She could be hard at work.”

    Isn’t she unemployed?

  535. Oh no! June 18th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    “Imagine clouds dripping….
    Dig a hole in your garden to put them in.”

    Big thank-you to John and Yoko for that one,
    apropos the day.

  536. Bill from NJ June 18th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    It stopped raining in lower Manhattan. its just really windy.

  537. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Oh. Uncle Ellsworth, haven’t we established in previous threads I am quite gullible. Seriously.

  538. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    “Pete’s a big baby – WAAAAAY too protective of his favs.”

    Why don’t you go write a song about it.

  539. MaineYankee June 18th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
    Its after 3 already. By the time this game starts it’ll be a night game

    ———————————————-

    Well thats a good thing. Haven’t people said Cano doesn’t play so well in day games? :lol:

  540. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Alice
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
    “I can say without a doubt that the Yankee rotation is “doing more better well” than you did in grade school English.”

    Yeah because your grammar is terrific, he/she is just giving an opinion. Take it easy

    ———————————————————–

    Did the quotation marks confuse you? Take it easy and watch out for the White Rabbit.

  541. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    “Well, now, what did you mean by the mitochondria crack?”

    It wasn’t a crack. You’re comparing Cano’s apathy on the field to a guy with a real serious and unusual health issue. Baldelli deserves all the respect in the world for going out there. I wish Cano appreciated the game, let alone putting on the pinstripes every day, on that level.

    BR- I say he deserves it but hopefully it doesn’t take too long to become permanent.

  542. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    I disagree with Trisha on just about everything, but I think her employment status ought to be off limits at least unless she is around.

  543. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    “Oh. Uncle Ellsworth, haven’t we established in previous threads I am quite gullible. Seriously.”

    It’s true. BTW, nice Haiku back there, Erica.

  544. Hokiehill June 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    i’m guessing my DVR is about to stop recording any minute now…maybe I can catch this one live, if it’s played at all…

    not sure if anyone else has had to watch the Nat’s tv coverage but their color guy is so much of a homer while calling the game that it’s embarrasing…and the MASN commercials for the Nats and O’s are hilarious.

  545. Bob(the original) June 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    According to Bryan Hoch:

    First pitch scheduled for approximately 4 p.m.

  546. sevrox June 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    kaseya: you really are able to make a living on that touring schedule?

    scant

  547. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    I disagree with Trisha on just about everything, but I think her employment status ought to be off limits at least unless she is around.

    ————————————————————

    I think that it’s just everybody’s attempt to draw Trsha out of her shell and get her talking more.

  548. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    UPDATE

    4PM start

  549. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    4:00 game time start

  550. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    “they took the team picture without kei igawa LMAO ”

    LMAO ! no they didn’t :lol: Kei prbly took the pic :)

  551. Bob(the original) June 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Hokiehill June 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    not sure if anyone else has had to watch the Nat’s tv coverage but their color guy is so much of a homer while calling the game that it’s embarrasing…and the MASN commercials for the Nats and O’s are hilarious.
    ———————————–

    Yeah, I’m in DC so that’s how I’ve had to watch.

    Awful, just awful broadcast team. Carpenter is an idiot and completely wrong about so many things. Last night for example he was going on about how unhappy A-Rod was when he had to move to 3rd from SS when he was with the Rangers.

    The color guy is Rob Dibble, who is just a complete tool.

  552. Alice June 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    “Did the quotation marks confuse you? Take it easy and watch out for the White Rabbit.”

    haha did you come up with that one on your own? How original.

  553. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    grammar is taken very seriously here
    spelling – use the Jeopardy rules – just get it close.

  554. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    kaseya
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    by the way, GB7, what do you do for a living? anywhere i can find a sample of what you do professionally and make snide remarks about it?

    i’m sure you’re very, very good at whatever it is you do.

    ————————————————————

    go to any of 35 foreign countries and take a peek.

  555. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Trish is probably resting, she had her Alamo a few days ago when she sided with the wrong gray side of Posada’s abilities behind the plate.

  556. Coach6423 June 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    4 PM 1ST PITCH

  557. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Brandon ! “B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !”
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    “they took the team picture without kei igawa LMAO ”

    LMAO ! no they didn’t Kei prbly took the pic
    ****
    Hahahaha. They paid him 41mm to be the cameraman on picture day

  558. m June 18th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Actually, kasey’s music was (is?) pretty good. I think (it was a loooong time ago) I compared it to some old Chris Isaak.

    I think Pete gives kasey a hard time cuz he’s no Boss. ;)

  559. m June 18th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Actually, kasey’s music was (is?) pretty good. I think (it was a loooong time ago) I compared it to some old Chris Isaak.

    I think Pete gives kasey a hard time cuz he’s no Boss. ;)

  560. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    “May God strike me dead, but, I miss Trish not being on this board, right now”-gb7

    i’d like to say a few words in honor of gb7 who was struck dead by lighting while polishing his blunderbuss :)

  561. GB8 June 18th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    “kaseya
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    by the way, GB7, what do you do for a living? anywhere i can find a sample of what you do professionally and make snide remarks about it?

    i’m sure you’re very, very good at whatever it is you do.”

    Hint: he could tell you, but then he’d have to shoot you.

  562. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    m
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    Actually, kasey’s music was (is?) pretty good. I think (it was a loooong time ago) I compared it to some old Chris Isaak.

    I think Pete gives kasey a hard time cuz he’s no Boss.

    ————————————————————

    That would be one point for kasey, then.

  563. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    “I think that it’s just everybody’s attempt to draw Trsha out of her shell and get her talking more.”

    Trisha doesn’t have a shell. If she’s there, she’s there.

  564. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Thanks Stultus!

    Btw- Its still raining and very windy on Long Island. But it is brightening up a little. It doesn’t actually LOOK like Armageddon anymore. So not looking forward to the commute home

  565. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    “I think that it’s just everybody’s attempt to draw Trsha out of her shell and get her talking more.”

    You’re right. Trisha needs to realize that we all have opinions and she shouldn’t be shy about voicing hers. ;)

  566. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! June 18th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    4 pm start, which means John and Suzyn on the drive home.
    I wonder if I can get the Spanish broadcast of the game. I need to find out what station that is on again.

  567. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    “Hahahaha. They paid him 41mm to be the cameraman on picture day”

    I laughed, but then it really saddens me that he is the most highest paid AAA player in the game today.

  568. FergsKU June 18th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Good luck with that 4pm start. I’m on the Upper East Side. The rain stops for twenty minutes and then there is a downpour for five.

  569. FergsKU June 18th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    I actually just saw Al Leiter walking on York with his family.

  570. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    randy l.
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    “May God strike me dead, but, I miss Trish not being on this board, right now”-gb7

    i’d like to say a few words in honor of gb7 who was struck dead by lighting while polishing his blunderbuss

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. Yeah, but, that was in another life. I’m also known as “The Centurion”.

  571. Stop The Walks June 18th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Ken Rosenthal, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Yankees are in contact with free-agent SP Pedro Martinez (Mets) and will watch him throw Friday, June 19, in the Dominican Republic, according to major league sources.

    What does everyone think of this? I say bring him in!

  572. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    some of the NY fans really are just stupid, don’t they realize that baseball is a game of odds and you have to play the odds? It’s so easy to say what you should have done after the play is over, but how many of those fans say what to do before the play and it usually turns out the way you want it? if you can do that, then you would have a manager’s job anywhere you want!

  573. Victor June 18th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    4 PM?

    It would be just like a West Coast game

  574. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    kaseya
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
    “go to any of 35 foreign countries and take a peek.”

    oh, are you a military man? hence the handle?

    ————————————————————

    Hey…nothing gets past you, does it?

  575. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Brandon ! “B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !”
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
    “Hahahaha. They paid him 41mm to be the cameraman on picture day”

    I laughed, but then it really saddens me that he is the most highest paid AAA player in the game today.

    ****
    Please stop making fun of the Cy Young of Scranton- Wilkes Barre

  576. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    KaseyA

    Deutschland! Ich habe zwei ein half Jahre in Freiburg verbracht. Ich vermisse es. Ich hoffe, dass es dir gefaellt.

  577. MaineYankee June 18th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Brandon ! “B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !”
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
    “Hahahaha. They paid him 41mm to be the cameraman on picture day”

    I laughed, but then it really saddens me that he is the most highest paid AAA player in the game today.

    ————————————————–

    That may be but I think Carmona is the highest paid in A ball.

  578. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    “oh, are you a military man? hence the handle?”

    yeah , don’t tick him off.

    after he tracked me down for one too many livan posts, i found it was hard to type with the resulting severed tendons and typing with your nose is a lot more difficult than you’d think.

  579. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
    I like Trish- I smile when I see her posting
    ====

    Trish has a huge heart. She’s my girl. :D

  580. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Ollie Perez?

  581. Hokiehill June 18th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Stop the Walks…it can’t hurt to take a look…

  582. FergsKU June 18th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Speak of the devil. It’s another downpour here in the east 80s. They are not playing this game anytime soon.

  583. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    “Trish has a huge heart. She’s my girl.”

    She definitely impressed going to battle the other day.

  584. Level 7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    Is Pedro supposed to be our replacement for Tomko?

  585. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Yogi8
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
    “Well, now, what did you mean by the mitochondria crack?”
    It wasn’t a crack. You’re comparing Cano’s apathy on the field to a guy with a real serious and unusual health issue. Baldelli deserves all the respect in the world for going out there. I wish Cano appreciated the game, let alone putting on the pinstripes every day, on that level.
    BR- I say he deserves it but hopefully it doesn’t take too long to become permanent.
    ====

    First of all, I never agreed that Cano brings “apathy” to the field. That’s YOUR perception. I didn’t say if he had Baldelli’s health – I said if he LOOKED LIKE Baldelli; Baldelli’s health issues were irrelevant to the comparison.

    You can sub in Xavier Nady, if you like.

    You wish Cano appreciated the game?

    And tell me, what makes you think he doesn’t?

  586. m June 18th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    gb7,

    Agreed, bonus points even.

    And kasey’s right. If you’re a sniper, you are excellent at your job. :)

  587. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    woo hoo baseball!

  588. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    FergsKU,

    Are you excited for dinner with your girlfriend’s parts?

    My favorite misspelling of the day.

  589. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Stultus Magnus
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
    “Trish has a huge heart. She’s my girl.”
    She definitely impressed going to battle the other day.
    ====

    Well that particular frenzy drove me away from here.

  590. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    For those that have perceived issues with Cano, then, you should really pity the poor Nats. They have Elijah Dukes. That’s what a baseball dog looks like.

  591. Tom June 18th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    They better win today

    I would not want to be on that plane to Miami after losing a series to the Senators.

    I wish Hank was still around. He would tell the team that they better beat Washington or else and the orginization would not accept losing to such a team

  592. BR June 18th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    bodhisattva– I think Gardner deserves it as well. The question was more of if everyone thought that was Giradi’s thinking as well esp after Cashman’s dumb comment yesterday about how this team is better with Melk in Center

  593. m June 18th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    kasey,

    Don’t be fooled, the only danger GB’s in right now is trying to fend off the attacks of the silver-haired Charleston ladies…with their handbags.

  594. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    “Well that particular frenzy drove me away from here.”

    Yeah, but I wouldn’t have put that much energy into defending my point regarding some baseball opinion. She was on the losing end pretty much and didn’t give in.

  595. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    m
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
    gb7,

    Agreed, bonus points even.

    And kasey’s right. If you’re a sniper, you are excellent at your job.

    ————————————————————

    Hey, what we did, what I did, was just a job like any other. Not every mission is a shoot ‘em up, blow ‘em up. It’s the perfect job for those too lazy to work.

  596. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    here’s the article about Pedro and the Yanks

    http://kl.am/PD9

  597. F7 TD June 18th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Cashman isin’t afraid to speak his mind

    Though saying his #2 starter was a “baseball player, not starter and has a 20 something ERA” was hilarious.

  598. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    As far as I am concerned and right or wrong Trisha started the whole Posada thing -months ago. She should feel vindicated after the attention it has recieved. (right or wrong)

    I’m no truther either.

  599. pat June 18th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Are the Yanks really interested in Pedro or is he using them to get his price?

  600. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    it would pain me to actually have to root for pedro, but hey if he does well then i guess i’ll have to get over it

  601. pb4ugo19 June 18th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    I want to join the military, my mom would have heartache.

  602. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    m
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    kasey,

    Don’t be fooled, the only danger GB’s in right now is trying to fend off the attacks of the silver-haired Charleston ladies…with their handbags.

    ————————————————————

    Hey…those ladies carry mean mint julips.

  603. kasey June 18th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    ummmmm, even with it being lowercase you can still post under it. They don’t ban just names. It does not work that way. This is (Jeter’s Edge again!)

  604. Zack June 18th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Knowing our luck, this game will be called (after staring it) and then re-scheduled after the season if needed.

    And we’ll probably be tied with Tampa for the WC at the end of the season and need that game to make the playoffs… and Strasburg is scheduled to pitch and he shuts us down.

  605. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    you know whats really funny

    if we do sign pedro it would be looked at as desperate and dumb, but the sox sign smoltz and its a brilliant and clever idea lol

  606. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    “Please stop making fun of the Cy Young of Scranton- Wilkes Barre”

    LMAO

    Lets see

    Ollie
    09:$12M, 10:$12M, 11:$12M
    3 years/$36M

    Fausto
    09:$2.75M, 10:$4.9M, 11:$6.1M, 12:$7M club option
    4 years/$15M

    Cy-K
    09:$4M, 10:$4M, 11:$4M
    5 years/$20M

    Seems close. :?

  607. Jeter's Edge June 18th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    anyway, lets win tonight. A-rod maybe needs a day or two off so that he can go on a tear when he’s rested.

  608. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    And kasey’s right. If you’re a sniper, you are excellent at your job.

    niiiice one m

  609. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    ah Tom,

    there are no longer the Senators, they are the Nationals! not to be mean, but welcome to the 21st century!

  610. Banks June 18th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Matt Lindstrom has such easy flowing mechanics and throws 100 effortlessly

    Go buy him on the cheap and see if Eliand can harness him.

  611. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    KaseyA,

    I was a student, I spent my senior year there, graduated “in absentia” from my school in the US and kept on going since the tuition was 50 bucks a semester.

    Unfortunately, I’ve never been to Garmisch. In Freiburg, people were fairly friendly to Americans. There’s always some problem they have with us, it doesn’t matter where you go.

    Anyway, don’t bother apologizing to GB7. He’s just surly and gets annoyed easily.

    Ok, I gotta go. No more thread for me today.

  612. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    bodhisattva: “First of all, I never agreed that Cano brings “apathy” to the field. That’s YOUR perception. I didn’t say if he had Baldelli’s health – I said if he LOOKED LIKE Baldelli; Baldelli’s health issues were irrelevant to the comparison.
    You can sub in Xavier Nady, if you like.
    You wish Cano appreciated the game?
    And tell me, what makes you think he doesn’t?”

    So you’re saying if he was white, would I still call him lazy? Yes, I would. What are you trying to say? I think he doesn’t appreciate the game when he watches balls off the bat rather than running them out, and when he doesn’t bother trying to beat out a ground ball. Also in the field when it looks like a ground ball is out of reach by just that “little extra” – rather than run hard and wait for a ball, he paces himself to meet it where it’s going. That’s my perception.

  613. Jeter's Edge June 18th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Kasey,

    Yeah the filter is real fickle. I’ve said some things i was surprised were blocked out in the past. And whats even more shocking is some of the stuff people seem to get through the filter!

  614. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    “Matt Lindstrom has such easy flowing mechanics and throws 100 effortlessly

    Go buy him on the cheap and see if Eliand can harness him.”

    They don’t want to trade him, infact FLA is looking for BP help to put as a SU bridge to him

  615. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    “Cy-K
    09:$4M, 10:$4M, 11:$4M
    5 years/$20M”

    Don’t forget the $25M or so posting fee. Ugh!!!

  616. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    “As far as I am concerned and right or wrong Trisha started the whole Posada thing -months ago. She should feel vindicated after the attention it has recieved. (right or wrong)”

    For some reason there is a hard core of the invincibly ignorant who cannot admit (and feel compelled to post constantly about it) that Posada is by orders of magnitude the best option the Yanks have at catcher, and that we have been enormously blessed to have him.

    It is a mystery to me.

  617. miggs June 18th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Ok I’m about 30 miles from the Staudium and its still raining cats and dogs here (haven’t used that expression in ages).

    I don’t see how they have first pitch at 4 PM.

  618. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Brandon-

    Without Cy Igawa, how else would the Scranton – Wilkes Barre team be winning AAA titles??

  619. Stultus Magnus June 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    “sarcasm is largely absent from their society”

    That’s totally true. But it’s also an annoying trait among Americans: over the top sarcasm with no sincerity. If you don’t know what to say, you say whatever you want, sarcastically.

  620. R+ June 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Leo Nunez and Dan Meyer are better than Lindstrom this year.

    If anything, Lindstrom should be the bridge to those guys.

  621. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Can you guys tell me what you think of Trish?

    It doesn’t MATTER what you think of Trish!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjwdL5-aMDM

  622. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    So true Erica

  623. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Wave
    read my post again it has nothing to do with the merits of the argument (I’m in Jorge’s corner) but rather the discussion itself.
    over and out

  624. Jay in the Roch June 18th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    CC and Coke works too. They can combine for a shut out or make you wanna fight your mother. Although, apparently you have to be an ex-hockey player to drink Canadian Club

  625. G. Love June 18th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    For everyone trying to debate anything regarding Cano with Bodi, here’s the short version.

    If you don’t love every single piece of Cano, you’re racist.

    If you think he played poorly last season, you’re racist.

    If you think he doesn’t walk enough, you’re racist.

    If you wanted the Yankees to possibly trade Cano for Matt Kemp (who is African American, I might add), you’re racist.

    If you don’t eat Cano up with a spoon, you’re racist.

    If you bring up the fact that Girardi had to bench him last season, you’re racist.

    And if your favorite players on the Yankees were Bernie, Mo and Posada, but you criticize Cano, you’re racist.

    Just wanted to keep it real.

  626. Riz June 18th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Great Blog, this is my first time commenting on your blog. I hope the Yankees play so Joba can get back on track today.

  627. BR June 18th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Speaking of Igawa, if anyone wants any perspective on how bad a GM Cashman is all you have to do is look at the 40 something million the Yankees pissed away on him. That contract is worse than Oliver Perez, worse than Pavano, worse than just about any contract a pitcher has gotten in recent memory outside of Barry Zito. At least those guys had proven something in the MLB before getting their money.

  628. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    “If anything, Lindstrom should be the bridge to those guys.”

    This is the first real yr. he is CL, he saids he’s in transition, I just think he isn’t a CL.

  629. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Wow! Twins and Pirates GET gettaway day.

    Game over in 2 hours 6 minutes.

  630. Brett Gardner June 18th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    will be so great I ´ll lead off!

  631. Brett Gardner June 18th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    I predict 2 for 3 1BB and 4 SB!

  632. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    BR
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
    Speaking of Igawa, if anyone wants any perspective on how bad a GM Cashman is all you have to do is look at the 40 something million the Yankees pissed away on him. That contract is worse than Oliver Perez, worse than Pavano, worse than just about any contract a pitcher has gotten in recent memory outside of Barry Zito. At least those guys had proven something in the MLB before getting their money.

    ———————————————–

    Not to mention that Cashman thought Igawa was better than Ted Lilly. Cashman is a certified moron. He is lucky he has Steinbrenner’s money to bail him out.

  633. Fireman June 18th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    When did NY turn into London or Seattle?

    Is it ever sunny anymore? It’s raining every single day

  634. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    fatcessa just said the game isnt starting at 4 anymore :/

  635. DB June 18th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    You got to hand it to Trisha, should stood by her guns and continued to rip Posada.

    It’s still drizzling here in Yonkers, but basbeball could be played. Hopefully, no gets hurt.

  636. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Bronx Jeers that was an awesome haiku

  637. Kid Yanks June 18th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    That’s a pretty soft sched the Sox have until the all star break. I’m looking at maybe 20-2 in that span for them.

    I hope the $210mil team can keep up!

    Although when you’re losing to the Nats at home….I doubt they can!

  638. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Steve B
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
    Wow! Twins and Pirates GET gettaway day.

    Game over in 2 hours 6 minutes.

    ****
    Mauer must have had a big date. Is he still dating the Miss USA contestant?

  639. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    my vote is to absolutely not sign Pedro!! I’d rather lose without him (well maybe not totally, but just think he’d be a cancer in the clubhouse and make more trouble than good pitches)

  640. G June 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    “Yankees now say first pitch at 4 p.m.”

    Finally. Its weird, it hasnt rained in Brooklyn for a while now, like an hour or two.

  641. Rose June 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    I live a little north of Yankee Stadium and it is pouring. Don’t think they will play today.

  642. G June 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    check the top of the post

  643. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Half the Bronx has rain and half doesn’t. So I think they will play. There is nothing behind the current front.

  644. Sword June 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Boston went 8-1 against the Tigers, Phillies, and Yankees. 5-1 on the road.

    They are in a different league than any other team, except maybe the Dodgers.

  645. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    “read my post again it has nothing to do with the merits of the argument (I’m in Jorge’s corner) but rather the discussion itself.”

    Yeah, my bad. And I should know better than to nudge sleeping dogs.

  646. KWAN June 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    “UPDATE, 3:55 p.m.: So much for 4. Back in a holding pattern. ”

    Just call the game. Then we can see Strasburg on the final game of the season.

  647. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    *Denise*
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
    my vote is to absolutely not sign Pedro!! I’d rather lose without him (well maybe not totally, but just think he’d be a cancer in the clubhouse and make more trouble than good pitches)

    ————————————————————

    It does sound like the perfect Cashman move. Sign a washed up injury prone pitcher.

  648. BR June 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    I forgot they could have had Lilly actually for less than Igawa. Imagine if Ted Lilly had been on this team the past couple of years. He is not great but he is very good and we would not have had to suffer through the likes of Sidney Ponson or Rasner. He could have had a very big impact on this team.

  649. you gotta have faith (we need you wang!) June 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    they arent playing at 4 like they said orginally thats for sure.

  650. vtred June 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Basically, they don’t have any window to play a complete game. If they do start it at 4, they might get 4-5 innings in.

  651. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    “Anyway, don’t bother apologizing to GB7. He’s just surly and gets annoyed easily.”

    if you were as old as he is so would you.

    here’s the earliest photo record of him:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.....hotgun.jpg

  652. No Trisha makes for a good blog! June 18th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    I think I saw Trish in line getting food stamps or was it unemployment?

  653. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Is pedro a bad teammate? Other than the “The yankees showed me who’s my daddy” comment, I don’t recall him being a cancer. Big head maybe. Anyway, if that pitcher last night can 3 hit us with an 89 mph fastball and 82 mph slider/changeup then I’m sure Pedro can also. Throw him in the pen, he can’t be any worse then Brett Tomko.

    Actually, I think he would help the clubhouse. He is a god to the Domincan players

  654. Mark June 18th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Wait… was trisha banned?

  655. Jeet Skeet June 18th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    so this is basically going to be a night game… STadium is making some good money havin all those people waiting this whole time

  656. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    It back to downpouring and windy darkness on Long Island

  657. G. Love June 18th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    If Pedro could help this team and pitched effectively out of the pen, I’d bring him in.

    He’s not on the Red Sox anymore. In fact, I think he’d be pretty determined to beat them and prove everyone in baseball dumb for not signing him. If he becomes a distraction you dump him.

    He and Posada would have to have a sit down and work it out, but other than that why not.

    We need bullpen arms.

    Would you rather have Tomko or Pedro?

  658. No Trisha makes for a good blog! June 18th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    She’s up to 300 lbs. now, sitting around eating Bon Bons all day. She will say she looks good though.

  659. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Well, in GB7′s defense. The older you get, the less tolerance you have for stupidity.

  660. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    “Yeah, my bad. And I should know better than to nudge sleeping dogs.”

    wave your hat-

    i think you deserve a self imposed blog fine .

    please go immediately to itunes and buy one of kasey’s songs :)

  661. Marcus June 18th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Pedro is a winner and team leader

    Lord knows we need more of that on the team. REAL leadership like Jorge provides… not this silly pie baking/loud music leadership that AJ Burnett or Swisher provide.

  662. sab June 18th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    i say sign pedro, glavine, byrd, daniel cabrera (OK maybe not him), and sheets – do it the way the redsox did when they signed every scrub and/or DL candidate they could this offseason (penny, saito, smoltz, kotsay, green) – think of each (of pedro, glavine and sheets, etc) as another bullet in the gun – eventually one of those bullets will hit the target…
    if they don’t its just another wasted bullet in the machine gun called the yankee pitching roster..we’ve had enough of wasted bullets so far this year (veras, ramierez, albaladejo, tomko, melancon, jackson, etc etc)whats a few more…

  663. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Erica, the storm is being pushed out to sea so you are getting the back end of it.

  664. DEN X June 18th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    I see no downside to signing one of the greatest pitchers of all-time. He could really help Joba and Hughes as well.

  665. No Trisha makes for a good blog! June 18th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Not that there’s anything wrong with obese people or anything.

  666. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    No Trisha makes for a good blog!
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
    She’s up to 300 lbs. now, sitting around eating Bon Bons all day. She will say she looks good though.

    ****
    Has she dumped you??? You sound kind of bitter

  667. chambliss June 18th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    I don’t know how much Pedro has left in the tank, but the guy knows how to pitch. He would be a great rental for the rest of the season. If he stinks, you cut him and eat the salary. If he is effective in the pen or as a starter, he is a good deal at $5M prorated.

  668. They already beat us in OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    “He’s not on the Red Sox anymore. In fact, I think he’d be pretty determined to beat them and prove everyone in baseball dumb for not signing him. If he becomes a distraction you dump him. ”

    Hasn’t he proven time and again over the last few years that he is done ? How are teams dumb for not signing him ? He’s lost his velocity and is hurt all the time.

  669. Zack June 18th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Which front are they worried about?

    The only one present on the radar is in Virginia right now. They could get 5-6 innings in if they wanted to.

  670. sevrox June 18th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    kaseya: did some camping out in Garmisch-Partenkirken (hell to spell); it is one fine area to reside in.

    I’m a drummer myself, but it’s more recreational/hobby than living – although I did do it for a living back in the ’80′s. Now a chemistry/physics teacher outside of Philadelphia. Your stuff is wittily eclectic.

  671. Josh from NC June 18th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    sword,

    the redsox have also went 4-8 against the angels, a’s and mariners.

  672. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    DB
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
    Erica, the storm is being pushed out to sea so you are getting the back end of it.
    ***
    Well, right now I am on the east end of Nassau on the North Shore. Eventually, I will leave work and head west and south. I have no idea what I am going to be driving into. I live in a very coastal area on the South Shore

  673. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    randy l.
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
    “Anyway, don’t bother apologizing to GB7. He’s just surly and gets annoyed easily.”

    if you were as old as he is so would you.

    here’s the earliest photo record of him:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.....hotgun.jpg

    ————————————————————

    Yes, and at the Library Of Congress, the have the last surviving copy of the Bedrock News Slab and has your picture chiseled on the front.

  674. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    I think that’s a pretty cheap shot at bodhisattva considering it was not just him playing the race card regarding a lot of the comments about Cano after last night’s game. People were going well overboard in ripping the guy on the game thread, as if he should have done all these things and because he didn’t it was okay to say he was stupid and/or lazy, or as though his stupidity and laziness had something to do with the fact that he had an 8-pitch AB with the game on the line, then hit the ball hard but in the worst possible place.

    I think to dismiss all criticism Cano out of hand due to racism is crazy, but that’s not the case in this instance–this was one moment where the rips on Cano were definitely a little overboard and seemed head-scratchingly illogical.

  675. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    BR
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    bodhisattva—I think Gardner deserves it as well. The question was more of if everyone thought that was Giradi’s thinking as well esp after Cashman’s dumb comment yesterday about how this team is better with Melk in Center
    =======

    I don’t know how to break this to you, but Gardner is not going to be the Yankees everyday CF.

    Melky is the better baseball player.

    Gardner is valuable as a part-time piece. He is not going to replace Melky Cabrera.

  676. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    nicely put, G. Love!

    So when Michael Kay says “What a scoop by Mark Teixeira, saving an error from Robinson Cano!” does that make him racist too?

  677. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Randy-

    What this blog needs is a kangaroo court! :)

  678. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Gardner > Cabrera

  679. Sword June 18th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Joshm

    They faced the Angels/A’s when they were struggling at the beginning of the season. Didn’t they start the year 2-6?

    We also play 16 games on the road against those same West Coast teams, Boston plays none.

  680. jarred June 18th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    This blog is so funny today,Pete body slamming a poster,some of the commenters are cracking me up.

  681. Jeter 22 June 18th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Rescheduling it for the end of the year is not a good situation for us at all.

    You want to face Strasburg with our season on the line? The Nats will be so amped up for that game, it will be like their world series.

  682. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    I can’t think of Pedro Martinez without remembering him body slamming Don Zimmer. I refuse to cheer that man. i think he’s disgusting

  683. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
    Randy-

    What this blog needs is a kangaroo court!

    ————————————————————

    Possibly, but, I’d change the name to Jackass Court.

  684. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    I say we all call Mike Franseca on the phone right now and ask him how he feels about the Cano situation.

  685. TIME FOR #27 June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Mean while toronto has come all the way back

  686. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Andrew – it wasn’t a cheap shot, bodi is an idiot.

  687. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    If it’s any constellation, as of 3:50 you can’t even see LI on the doppler. But, Bronx is peaking it’s head outside the rain. Erica, count on driving in some rain but not too bad.

  688. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Ramiro Pena > Cano

  689. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    G. Love
    June 18th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
    For everyone trying to debate anything regarding Cano with Bodi, here’s the short version.
    If you don’t love every single piece of Cano, you’re racist.
    If you think he played poorly last season, you’re racist.
    If you think he doesn’t walk enough, you’re racist.
    If you wanted the Yankees to possibly trade Cano for Matt Kemp (who is African American, I might add), you’re racist.
    If you don’t eat Cano up with a spoon, you’re racist.
    If you bring up the fact that Girardi had to bench him last season, you’re racist.
    And if your favorite players on the Yankees were Bernie, Mo and Posada, but you criticize Cano, you’re racist.
    Just wanted to keep it real.
    ======

    I find it odd that you are so invested every time anyone here takes issue with the adjective “lazy” when applied to Cano.

    Your energy for this is unrelenting.

    To paraphrase William Shakespeare, the gentleman doth protest, too much, methinks.

  690. jarred June 18th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    That’s what’s so funny,it is a kangaroo court,I can’t stop laughing.As John MacEnro would say.”You can not be serious.”

  691. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Francesa is really being obtuse at this point acting as if Posada is not as dangerous as Cano. He also just wrongly claimed that Arod hasn’t stolen a base all year – he has 2 and they were last week.

  692. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    How is it a given that suddenly if the game is played in September, the Yankees will be facing Strasburg and he will be dominating them?! This is a crazy notion, considering A) it’s not certain he will be signed B) he could stay in the minors until next year C) if he does end up on the roster right away, he might get knocked around right off the bat and would certainly not be the first “top prospect” to have that happen.

  693. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    They might be waiting for the line by Newark to get by the Stadium area….

    http://www.accuweather.com/rad.....38;large=1

  694. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Yogi8
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    Andrew – it wasn’t a cheap shot, bodi is an idiot.
    =====

    Thanks, bro.

    Now let’s see – wasn’t it you who said you were “sick of Cano and Cabrera” earlier?

    Wasn’t it you who said THEY are lazy? THEY turn FCs into DPs? THEY don’t hustle?

    That was you, right?

  695. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    I can’t think of Pedro Martinez without remembering him body slamming Don Zimmer. I refuse to cheer that man. i think he’s disgusting

    Jeter and Jorgie can always take him into the back room and get that all straightened out. Yeah, that was a big **** move.

  696. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    “Lord knows we need more of that on the team. REAL leadership like Jorge provides… not this silly pie baking/loud music leadership that AJ Burnett or Swisher provide.”

    Jorge and Pedro and his lucky midget should get along real well.

  697. jarred June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    I have’ seen this much fighting since the Hatfield’s and the McCoy’s. Methinks too!!

  698. Mark June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Toronto about to sweep Philly

    Give them credit… they are undermanned, just loss their ace to the DL, and are still in this race.

    This division is so brutal

  699. Scorpio June 18th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    yankees.com:

    “Girardi said that even if Wang struggles against the Braves in Atlanta, for example, he is not on a short leash and should not worry about being yanked from the rotation.”

    Oh no, the Wang hater(s) will need to be medicated after hearing this news. :)

  700. Aura June 18th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Francesa is really being obtuse at this point acting as if Posada is not as dangerous as Cano. He also just wrongly claimed that Arod hasn’t stolen a base all year – he has 2 and they were last week.

  701. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Yogi8
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
    nicely put, G. Love!
    So when Michael Kay says “What a scoop by Mark Teixeira, saving an error from Robinson Cano!” does that make him racist too?
    =====

    G. Love, meet Yogi8. Perfect together.

  702. Georgie B June 18th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    How’d you like to have the “Lonn Trost” $2500 seats for this game!

  703. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    DB
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    If it’s any constellation, as of 3:50 you can’t even see LI on the doppler. But, Bronx is peaking it’s head outside the rain. Erica, count on driving in some rain but not too bad.

    ***
    I am not optimistic of my chances of leaving on time today. You would seriously think I would stop posting and work on this stuff, but no. I guess I will worry about the roads when the time comes. Meanwhile, I have 4WD so my car is awesome. Its the other drivers on the road that don’t know how to drive in rain and drive me nuts

  704. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Cano does have a history of being lazy. He was benched last year for a reason. So he will not get the benefit of doubt from the fans. Cano is a great hitter and has been a solid fielder this year. He just needs to show more patience at the plate and get better in his situational hitting. If he does that he will be one of the best players in baseball.

  705. Aura June 18th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    The Ghost wrote:

    Francesa is really being obtuse at this point acting as if Posada is not as dangerous as Cano. He also just wrongly claimed that Arod hasn’t stolen a base all year – he has 2 and they were last week.

    Francesa is an idiot, I don’t know why you listen to him

  706. Homer June 18th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Pedro and Jorge are professional players, they can kiss and makeup for the betemit of the team.

  707. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    I don’t understand why callers are even bothering with the 9th inning last night. They lost the game in the 5th when Pena dropped the throw from Posada and the ump blew the call at 1st. You can’t expect to come back every night.

  708. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Yogi I’m pretty confident the 8 in your name refers to your age, so I’m going to take your opinion on bodhisattva’s intelligence with a pretty large grain of salt. Maybe an entire salt lick, actually.

  709. G. Love June 18th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Andrew,

    It’s hardly a cheap shot when he’s actually called me a racist on here for knocking Cano and Melky, two players who both regressed last year and two players who by all accounts didn’t give their best efforts last year.

    This year is a different story. They are both playing very well. I voted for Cano 25 times for the all star game online the other day.

    That said, whenever anyone in here points out flaws about Cano racism is suggested by his supporters and I’m sick of it.

    In my case, and in many others I’m sure, we like all players regardless of race as long as they try hard and give their best.

    Cano has had episodes in his career when that was not the case.

    His hitting into a DP last night was not one of those episodes. He worked that pitcher forever fouling everything off and I thought he’d at least get Gardner in, but he didn’t.

    That had nothing to do with laziness. It was baseball.

    However, last season Cano had episodes where he was lazy and not focused. He would never had been benched if that wasn’t the case unless he was benched for being too good.

  710. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    I’m sure the “Lonn Trost” seats are enjoying their buffet indoors if they are still in the ballpark.

  711. They already beat us in OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    To be fair he didn’t really body slam Zim. He just kind of steered him in the right direction and gravity took care of the rest.

  712. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    DB
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    Erica
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    I can’t think of Pedro Martinez without remembering him body slamming Don Zimmer. I refuse to cheer that man. i think he’s disgusting

    Jeter and Jorgie can always take him into the back room and get that all straightened out. Yeah, that was a big **** move.

    ****
    Ooh- they can battle it out under the O’Neill banner!

  713. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Thank you, Andrew.

  714. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    no Pedro

  715. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Brandon ! “B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !”
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    “Lord knows we need more of that on the team. REAL leadership like Jorge provides… not this silly pie baking/loud music leadership that AJ Burnett or Swisher provide.”

    Jorge and ***Pedro and his lucky midget*** should get along real well.

    ————————————————————

    damned, Brandon…the yanks aren’t going to sign Pedro Martinez and then trade for Pedroia.

  716. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Listening to GB and Randy go back and forth on who is older is like hearing Granny and Aunt Bee debating who is prettier.

    Let’s just call it a tie. ;-)

  717. BR June 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    How is Melky better than Gardner? Melky has been awful recently and Gardner has been playing well. The real Melky really brings nothing to this team except for a decent average and good arm. The fake Melky that plays great for 3-4 weeks every season is better than Gardner but definitely not right now.

  718. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    G. Love

    “Would you rather have Tomko or Pedro?”

    Neither. Would rather take a chance on Ben Sheets.

  719. Joe June 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    The Phillies started on time and are still playing

    Is the weather that much different in NY?

  720. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    GB7-

    Nah, Jackass Court is too harsh. A kangaroo court needs a light touch. I’d nominate Nick in SF as the judge. I’d be scared to come up before you if you were the judge – I feel like I might be sentenced to write “I shall not commit typos” 500 times over and over.

  721. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    At this point in there careers Tomko is better than Pedro.

  722. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    G.Love I agree with what you’re saying, the key for me is that since your asessment of this year’s and last night’s performance out of Cano is spot on, when Cano failed in that spot last night and suddenly people were throwing around the “lazy” and “stupid” adjectives as if to infer that he didn’t try his hardest, it rung as kind of weird and a pretty unrealistic criticism.

    You want to say he should have been more patient in that situation, I will give you that, but to say he was stupid or lazy in that at-bat was just way off which is what I think upset people and led them down the race road.

    I think it’s fair to call out flaws in guys’ games, but I also think they should be based in the reality of the present situation and not just that old standby of “Cano is lazy and dumb”, and that’s what was wrong about the sentiments expressed by commenters last night.

  723. BR June 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    I don’t know why people think Melky is playing well. He has been the worst starter on this team in June. Yes, even worse than Arod.

  724. jake June 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    “How is Melky better than Gardner? Melky has been awful recently and Gardner has been playing well. The real Melky really brings nothing to this team except for a decent average and good arm. The fake Melky that plays great for 3-4 weeks every season is better than Gardner but definitely not right now.”

    – *BR you are blinded by a FEW good at bats that gardner has had…so he’s MAYBE hitting .300 this month? Well he’s only had like 20 at bats. Melky has been hitting around .290-.300 this WHOLE YEAR and has had all of those clutch wins…Brett Gardner is a horrible hitter that has the tools to be a below average cheap hitter like ellsbury but doesnt know how to use his tools. Melky is a legit CF.*

  725. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    “Jorge and Pedro and his lucky midget should get along real well.”

    Thought the lucky midget was dead and….well, no so lucky anymore.

  726. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    GB7-

    Nah, Jackass Court is too harsh. A kangaroo court needs a light touch. I’d nominate Nick in SF as the judge. I’d be scared to come up before you if you were the judge – I feel like I might be sentenced to write “I shall not commit typos” 500 times over and over.

    ————————————————————

    The typos aren’t my fault.

  727. G. Love June 18th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Yankee Trader,

    If Sheets can throw the ball for half a season and would pitch out of the pen, I agree with you.

    I don’t love the idea of Pedro but I also know the team should think outside of the box when it comes to filling the pen with arms.

    Personally, I don’t think it will happen. I can’t imagine Pedro wanting to be a reliever. There has to be a rotation spot somewhere for him.

    I’m still surprised the Mets didn’t give him a shot considering how their rotation panned out.

    Either he’s cooked in their eyes or he was a clubhouse distraction.

  728. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Why are they trying so hard to get this game in? If need be (and the odds on needing the game due to a tiebreaker are slim), they can play the game at the end of the year.

  729. jake June 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    I agree with the guy up there ^ I say sign Pedro for the bullpen/long relief/spot or 5th starter and then in mid july sign Sheets for like 2 million and stick him in for Pettite’s Spot. Sheets is NASTY once he gets healthy and Pedro is better than a lot of people in that bullpen

  730. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    I’ll ask again.

    Last night, do you put a runner in for A-Rod and try to steal second during Cano’s AB or try the squeeze play with the speedy Gardner on third?

  731. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Its going to look so stupid if they postpone after a 4 hour rain delay. They could have been in Florida already if they just ppd at 1

  732. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    That’s hard to say smurf, Pedro hasn’t pitched since the WBC where he had an ERA of 0.00.

  733. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    That said, whenever anyone in here points out flaws about Cano racism is suggested by his supporters and I’m sick of it.
    =====

    Actually, it’s when his “flaws” are insupportable & character assassinating in nature, do his “supporters” see an anti-latino bias.

    “Lazy” and “stupid” are stereotypes of latinos. They creep into the vocabulary of some posters here regarding Cano and Melky, whom one would think are the same person, the way they’re critiqued together.

    It’s a fact to say Cano’s OBP is deficient. It’s a huge assumption, supported by NOTHING tangible, to accuse him, over and over again, of being lazy.

    If you could just get the defensive bile out of your mouth for a minute, it might occur to you that Cano’s “supporters” as you call them, may object to those terms applied to him because they actually have a point.

    The fact that you don’t even consider this, but LEAP to the defense of those who use these tired, imprecise labels about these two young players, betrays your own point of view.

    Not only do you dismiss this out of hand, you are bilious toward the people who have the audacity to call out others for using those terms.

  734. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    That’s the problem Betsey, the Nats and Yanks don’t share a mutual off day for the rest of the season

  735. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Betsy
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
    Why are they trying so hard to get this game in? If need be (and the odds on needing the game due to a tiebreaker are slim), they can play the game at the end of the year.

    ————————————————————

    I think the Yankees feel that it’s their civic duty to play. they also know that another days without Yankee baseball there will be mass suicides and internet murders on the boards. You know that the Yankees would get blamed for that.

  736. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    “The typos aren’t my fault.”

    Yeah, you’re right, forget the typos, you’d probably just tell us to hit the turf and give you 50 (pushups, that is). :)

  737. Joe June 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    You just know that knowing our luck, Stratsburg will pitch that final game against us if it comes down to it.

    What a story that would be if we needed to win that game facing the 103 MPH throwing phenom.

  738. chambliss June 18th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Yankee Trader:

    I would have had A-Rod steal with two strikes and if stealing would have meant potential harm to his hip then I would have subbed for him and had that person steal (maybe Cervelli who runs well).

    Cano leads the team in GIDP if I recall correctly, so leaving the runner on first was a mistake.

    The other option would have been to have the runner on first get into a run down and let Gardner try to steal home as part of that play.

  739. BR June 18th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Melky is a legit CF? Is this the same guy who has a .337 OBP for the season and has been the worst player on the team this month. Gardners OBP is in the .350s for the season just to let you know which is great if he steals a ton of bases.

  740. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    “I agree with the guy up there ^ I say sign Pedro for the bullpen/long relief/spot or 5th starter and then in mid july sign Sheets for like 2 million and stick him in for Pettite’s Spot. Sheets is NASTY once he gets healthy and Pedro is better than a lot of people in that bullpen.”

    If you were able to sign a healthy Sheets for 2M, to take Pettitte’s spot, you’d essentially be getting Sheets for nothing, as Pettitte would have no chance to reach the incentive clauses in his contract.

    However Texas will probably sign him.

  741. Rob June 18th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    We don’t play in Miami until tomorrow night. The Nats and us don’t have a mutual off-day

    What’s the rush? MLB hates to schedule last day of the season games unless they have to.

  742. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    You want to say he should have been more patient in that situation, I will give you that, but to say he was stupid or lazy in that at-bat was just way off which is what I think upset people and led them down the race road.
    I think it’s fair to call out flaws in guys’ games, but I also think they should be based in the reality of the present situation and not just that old standby of “Cano is lazy and dumb”, and that’s what was wrong about the sentiments expressed by commenters last night.
    ===========

    My point.

  743. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Gardner last 42 at bats he hitting 357 with a 458 OBP
    Melky last 42 at bats he hitting 189 with a 244 OBP

    Honestly Girardi should just ride the hot hitter until they cool off. There shouldn’t be an everyday permanent centerfielder.

  744. G. Love June 18th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Andrew,

    Agreed. I didn’t read the blog last night since I’ve been attending most of the games. I’m sure Cano got slammed for the DP.

    I’m just tired of a certain few posters who bring race into the Cano/Melky debate all the time.

    In spring training I wanted Gardner to start in CF. After seeing how Melky came out of the gate and showed up this season I changed my mind.

    That had nothing to do with race, it had to do with Melky playing great.

    That said, if Gardner gets hot he deserves the shot again too.

    It’s about rooting for the Yankees. Not about what country the players come from.

    Some people on here take exception to that and for what reason, I have no idea.

  745. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Well weiney the Yankees said themselves that they don’t share an off-day with the Nationals so that is where we are getting our info.

  746. m June 18th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    I love how people judge Gardner on less than a year’s experience.

    And this is no jab at melky, but Gardner hasn’t had 3 years to adjust to the level yet and people have pegged him for what he is.

    And yes, I’m aware that melky’s a better hitter.

  747. m June 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Aaaannndd Phillies come all the way back to tie it up. Amazing how Toronto is still in the AL East race, no?

  748. Distd June 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    I don’t get why they don’t just release Pettitte

    Sheets and Hughes would be much better options. At some point, you need to stop being sentimental and give your team the best chance to win.

  749. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    I feel pretty bad for those fans sitting there right now. They’ve been there for 3.5 hours minumum- probably spent a ton of money already and haven’t seen one pitch of baseball

  750. JohnC June 18th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Phillies have just tied the Jays 7-7, still batting in 8th.

  751. Harold June 18th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Atleast the crowd is entertained… they get to watch this back and forth Jays/Phillies game on the big screen.

  752. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Yogi Berra’s First 3 Full Seasons of more than 80 games

    47 Avg .280 OBP .310
    48 Avg .305 OBP .340
    49 Avg .277 OBP .323

    Robinson Cano’s First 3 Full Seasons of more than 80 games

    05 Avg .297 OBP .320
    06 Avg .342 OBP .365
    07 Avg .306 OBP .353

    Cano sounds pretty darn good to me.

  753. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Either cancel the game or wait til 7 to start. By the time that patch of rain is gone that they’re waiting for it would be close to the usual 7 start.

  754. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    “The typos aren’t my fault.”

    Yeah, you’re right, forget the typos, you’d probably just tell us to hit the turf and give you 50 (pushups, that is).

    ————————————————————

    The guys in the military have no issues with taking payoffs from you lower ranks instead of making you do the pushups.

  755. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    “I would have had A-Rod steal with two strikes and if stealing would have meant potential harm to his hip then I would have subbed for him and had that person steal (maybe Cervelli who runs well).”

    You’d run the risk of going to extras with a lineup that is without Jeter, Arod and Teixeira if you do that. Further, Cervelli runs well FOR A CATCHER. By normal professional athlete standards, he is slow. More importantly, by Arod with a bad hip standards, he is slow.

  756. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Trader:
    Who do you put in? Pena was already in the lineup and Gardner is on 3rd. Jeet has a gimpy ankle. There’s no one to put in. Alex has good enough speed and knows how to steal. Girardi doesn’t need to give him the signal, he’s going to go if he thinks he can make it. With his still-healing hip, late in the game and a few dives already, I imagine (but have no idea, of course) his hip was probably aching by then.
    Cano doesn’t bunt much. He has the ability to drive the ball. To ask him to bunt in that situation just doesn’t make sense.

  757. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Question did Sterling really call Teixeira stealing 2nd and 3rd ?

  758. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Oooh, Phils tie it, drama.

    Meanwhile Egyptian upset keeps USA alive in Confed cup. Now all we have to do is beat Egypt by three and have Italy lose to Brazil by four and we’re in!

  759. saucy June 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    i wanted to see a squeeze play last night. but that’s just me…

  760. G. Love June 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    You can’t knock Cano for last night.

    He had 2 strikes on him and had to protect the plate. Would you rather him get called out looking in that scenario?

    What I do agree with is we should have pinch run there if Alex couldn’t steal the bag.

    I think they would have let Alex have 2nd knowing Gardner would have taken home on the throw.

    If Arod’s hip came into play there then maybe getting Berroa or Cervelli in to run for him would have worked although neither are Carl Lewis.

    The Yankees have a lot of guys who GIDP, so sending runners has to be the norm here. You gamble and sometimes you lose doing it, but I think with Gardner on 3rd, Bard would have let the runner have 2nd.

  761. DB June 18th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    There’s a reason why no one has touched Sheets. He is damaged goods. His elbow is shot.

  762. pat June 18th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    “I feel pretty bad for those fans sitting there right now.”

    The Hard Rock is warm and dry. :wink:

  763. BR June 18th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Papa Smurf– exactly, you have to ride the hot hand because neither Melky nor Gardner have proved anything at the ML level. The only thing Melky has proved is that he will have one hot streak every season and we may have seen it already. Anyone to say he is a legit CF is crazy

  764. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    For once, Mike Francessa is totally right. Nobody did anything wrong yesterday, we had a perfect situation w/an unfortunate result.

  765. Francis June 18th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    They already beat us in OUR house

    June 18th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    To be fair he didn’t really body slam Zim. He just kind of steered him in the right direction and gravity took care of the rest.

    ————————

    Agree. Sometimes the fans blow that incident way out of proportion.

  766. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    “What this blog needs is a kangaroo court!”

    wave your hat-

    how do you think i ended up with casey’s itunes song ?

    i fined myself.

    we need to figure out a way to pay the fine though. it would have to be less than a dollar and something going to a good cause.

    i saw someone suggested nick in sf to be judge. absolutely not. i don’t have enough money to pay the fines i’d get from nick in sf being the judge.

    i vote for cb or sj44, but i think it cb would be better because when sj44 gets ticked off he can say some funny things that are definitely finable.

  767. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    “I don’t get why they don’t just release Pettitte

    Sheets and Hughes would be much better options. At some point, you need to stop being sentimental and give your team the best chance to win.”

    Interesting, since having lefty starters, used to be an advantage in Yankee Stadium, but since Pettitte won’t or can’t pitch inside to lefty batters, and his velocity is down, it seems around 3mph, he no longer gives us an advantage at home.

  768. Gates June 18th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    8 HRs hit in Citizens Bank Park today

  769. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    “The guys in the military have no issues with taking payoffs from you lower ranks instead of making you do the pushups.”

    Who says you are always grouchy? LMFAO :)

  770. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    I hate April baseball.

  771. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    In honor of They already beat us in OUR house, I have changed my name.

  772. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    “You can’t knock Cano for last night. ”

    Yes you can, he swung at a lot of bad pitches. There were at least 5 balls thrown and 4 more that were borderline. Unfortunately, Cano swung at 3 balls and all of the borderline pitches.

  773. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Pettite leads the team in wins as a number five starter. What more can you ask for?

  774. Viper 77 June 18th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    If our pitching doesn’t improve and we forget how to hit against them, it won’t matter whose house they play in, the Sux will still beat us.

  775. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    “i vote for cb or sj44, but i think it cb would be better because when sj44 gets ticked off he can say some funny things that are definitely finable. ”

    My vote is for Nick in SF :)

    He usually keeps his cool when the Yanks are playing poorly and I’m sure he could come up with some hilarious fines.

  776. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    They aren’t going to release Andy Pettitte. But, you can when you play video games tonight.

    Ben Sheets has a handshake deal with the Rangers. He is rehabbing at their facility and if he comes back (rumor is, he may be able to pitch in August or September) it will be with the Rangers.

  777. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    “To be fair he didn’t really body slam Zim. He just kind of steered him in the right direction and gravity took care of the rest.
    ————————————
    Agree. Sometimes the fans blow that incident way out of proportion.”

    Remember Zim was also wearing a helmet to protect him! Oh no, wait a minute, it was a steel plate in his head!!

  778. GMAN June 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Rainy day thought – anybody think that Brad Lidge is salvagable from the Phillies?

  779. sar515 June 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    I’m so hungry for Yankee baseball today…that I read all of your posts!

  780. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Patrick-He was protecting w/2 strikes.

    I knock him for not huustling down the line enough and swining at the first pitch, but that’s it.

  781. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    “I don’t get why they don’t just release Pettitte”

    This makes a lot of sense. After all, he is pitching to what…a 4something ERA, and he’s just keeping his team in games. Unacceptable, right? Especially since he’s done nothing in his career, nor has he ever shown that he might pitch better later in the year, say post-All Star break.

    By all means, the Yankees should cut him and insert either a) a guy with less than a full season of major league experience or b) a guy with a bad elbow who just had surgery to repair it and may not be ready to pitch at all this year. That will get them to the promised land!

  782. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Randy-

    SJ44 would be way too tough on me. I’d be out of pocket change in no time. I’d vote for Nick in SF, or you. Either way, the other one of you two would be in the soup for sure.

  783. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Wow. Now we have posts about releasing Pettitte.

    I’d say I’ve seen it all, but that will change in 5 minutes.

  784. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Patrick,

    He has to protect the plate in that situation. If the balls are a bit off the plate, so be it. He had a great AB and a bad result. That’s baseball.

  785. Mad Max June 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Because Andy is the worst pitcher on the team after Wang?

    Wins are meaningless. Randy Johnson won 17 games with a 5 ERA. Matt Cain went like 8-16 with an ERA in the mid 3s.

    If you can replace Andy with Sheets, you do it in a heartbeat.

  786. 56Bomber June 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    kaseya – if you’re in Garmisch you need to get over to Gasthof Fraundorfer in Partenkirchen for dinner. You might like their musical entertainment too.

  787. Track Wall Outta Here June 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    So much for getaway day. The flight to florida might be a long one, depending on when/if this game begins.
    Can’t blame the umps for doing everything they can to get this game played. They are only doing their job.

  788. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Yankee Trader
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
    “To be fair he didn’t really body slam Zim. He just kind of steered him in the right direction and gravity took care of the rest.
    ————————————
    Agree. Sometimes the fans blow that incident way out of proportion.”

    Remember Zim was also wearing a helmet to protect him! Oh no, wait a minute, it was a steel plate in his head!!

    ****
    I am not blowing ANYTHING out of proportion. He had no business laying his hands on a 70+ year old man

  789. XFactor June 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    “Especially since he’s done nothing in his career, nor has he ever shown that he might pitch better later in the year, say post-All Star break.”

    You mean like last year when he went 2-7 with an ERA over 5 after the ASB?

  790. William Buckner June 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Release Andy? Right now they have 6 starters and have been healthy, luckily.

    They are two injuries away from Josh Towers.

  791. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    SJ44-

    Did you see your nephews write-up in this weeks USA Today Baseball Weekly? Nice write-up on page 4.
    Pirates GM said defensively he’s ready to play in the majors right now!

  792. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Mad Max-Sheets has a bad elbow.

    We talk about Wang earning more starts, but if anybody has earned more starts it’s Pettite.

    And if he wins 17 games with a 5 ERA, I’ll take it from a number five starter.

  793. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    “Patrick-He was protecting w/2 strikes.

    I knock him for not huustling down the line enough and swining at the first pitch, but that’s it. ”

    A-rod had 2 strikes on him but he managed a walk.

    Dude, the bottom line is, Cano swung at 3 definite balls and 4 more that could have gone either way. That is not protecting the plate, that is a lack of plate discipline.

    Oh and he DID run hard out of the box, he was running his butt off the whole way.

  794. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    XFactor-That’s one year in a career full of the opposite result.

  795. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    “8 HRs hit in Citizens Bank Park today”

    our park is a band box :)

  796. 4time June 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Pettitte is a target for some reason despite the fact that he has 6 wins.

    He was signed to be a #5 starter. Not pick up the slack of an underperforming AJ Burnett or a messed up Wang.

    How about the guys in front of him getting paid the big money step up like Burnett, rather than asking Andy to overachieve?

  797. Pel June 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    >Nobody did anything wrong yesterday, we had a
    >perfect situation w/an unfortunate result.

    Melky should’ve never dove for that ball in the 5th. That was a dumb move. Because of that, 2 runs score instead of just the 1.

  798. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    “So much for getaway day. The flight to florida might be a long one, depending on when/if this game begins.”

    Its pouring here in Florida too. Badly

  799. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Erica-

    You’re absolutely right. If I’m 70, I’m going out to the mound armed with a bat in my hands!

  800. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    How about literally every other year in his career post-ASB? Is your memory just 2008, like is that the first year you got out of grade school and started paying attention to baseball more frequently? Did you hear anything about how he had a shoulder injury that he pitched through during the summer months last year, or did you miss that while you were busy trading him off your MLB 09 team?

  801. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    BJ Ryan closing this should be interesting.

  802. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    “He has to protect the plate in that situation. If the balls are a bit off the plate, so be it. He had a great AB and a bad result. That’s baseball.”

    I disagree. He swung at balls well off the plate. He also swung at some borderline pitches. I can’t blame him for the borderline stuff but he could have EASILY worked a walk in that situation. Bottom line, it was a poor at-bat to end the game, in my opinion.

  803. MaineYankee June 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood)
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
    Listening to GB and Randy go back and forth on who is older is like hearing Granny and Aunt Bee debating who is prettier.

    Let’s just call it a tie.

    ————————————————–

    It would be tough to tell when they both probably look like Granny. :lol:

  804. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Patrick-I thought he could have run harder, but anyway besides the point.

    Cano is not A-Rod. If he thinks the balls may end up being strikes, you have to protect.

  805. Soul June 18th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    TeixMVP, just curious…. when is the last time you said anything bad about the Yankees or a Yankee?

  806. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    they aren’t calling the game until 7ish

  807. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    m
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
    I love how people judge Gardner on less than a year’s experience.
    And this is no jab at melky, but Gardner hasn’t had 3 years to adjust to the level yet and people have pegged him for what he is.
    And yes, I’m aware that melky’s a better hitter.
    =====

    Some of us have seen more of him, and what we see tells us he’s not a plus defender and won’t get on base enough as an everyday player to utilize his greatest asset – speed.

    Could we be wrong? Of course – he can improve. But people also have different evaluating skills, so I guess you can rely on your own to let the story be told.

    To others who protest that Melky isn’t an everyday CF – compared to whom? Gardner is his competition – not some high-end stud like Adam Jones or BJ Upton.

    Cabrera is a very competent CF and a much better hitter than given credit for.

  808. jeff June 18th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    “The Yankees are officially not playing well. They are 6-7 in their last 13 games and have lost five of their last eight. This is the final game of the homestand.”

    The problem with using numbers like this is they ALWAYS lie. The Yankees have won every series but the Red Sox series since the Phillies series. That’s a 3-1 series win vs. Cleveland, 2 2-1 series wins verse Texas, 2-1 series wins vs. Mets (GIFT) and Rays. I hate when people play with numbers to try to make them say something. All those clubs but Cleveland are very good teams.

    That being said, the Yanks shouldn’t have won 2 of 3 vs. the Mets. But that’s a more accurate statement of baseball.

  809. Marcus June 18th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Andrew – Because Andy has looked great this year and been 100% healthy right?

    Using career stats to judge a 37 yr old Andy is comical. He is not what he once was.

  810. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    From the boys at It Is High…

    “News that Hillary Clinton fell and broke her elbow moved swifly into the Yankee braintrust Wednesday. Though the team previously had shown no interest in the 61-year-old lefty, the possibility that she might require surgery and miss a year quickly vaulted her to the top of the Yankee prospect charts.

    “This changes everything,” said a Yankee scout who asked not be named. “Some teams shy away from pitchers with bad arms. We prefer them.”

    Clinton directed all comments to newly hired spokesman Scott Boras.”

  811. Doris from Rego Park June 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Been home sick today and just read through some of these comments- WOW. The vitriol in here may be at an all-time high. This lousy June weather coupled with a frustrating (and thats all it is) loss has really brought out the worst in people.

    What I find really funny though is that pepole are killing the callers on francessa’s show and the comments here are basically the same exact thing

  812. Rockks June 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Andy looks toast

    Does anyone feel confident when he takes the mound anymore? I’m more confident when Hughes takes the mound.

  813. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Pel-I was referring to the bottom of the ninth anyway. But on the diving playI’m not even sure he would have gotten to the ball anyway, two runs might have scored either way.

    Looks to me like classic 20/20 hindsight. If he’d caught it we’d be talking about his amazing game saving catch.

    If I sound cynical right now I’m not, just bored.

  814. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    I don’t know how some of you can be so sure where the pitches were just by watching the television. I try, I really try, but there are just times that I don’t know. And way off? The only way I see way off is if they swing at a ball in the dirt or way over someone’s head – and I’m only half kidding.

    Just don’t know how you can be so certain, given the camera angles and all.

  815. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Patrick,

    not a poor at bat! You want Cano to walk and bring up Posada, who is famous for hitting into DPs? Come on already, you don’t execute every time, the odds were with Cano, that’s what baseball is, a game of odds, you play the odds and there’s no one else in that line up (besides Tex) that I would have rather had up in that spot than Cano.

  816. Track Wall Outta Here June 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    i had plans to go home at lunch, watch some of the game and enjoy the day. those plans were ruined by mother nature…ha ha ha
    seriously, all we can do is hurry up and wait.

  817. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    “Cano is not A-Rod. If he thinks the balls may end up being strikes, you have to protect.”

    Cano has no concept of the strikezone from what I see. I love the guy, he’s a great hitter, great fielder and exciting to watch but he has horrendous plate discipline. It’s an extremely obvious hole in his game that he simply doesn’t address.

    Re-watch the at-bat or simply look at MLB gameday and you’ll see the balls he swung at. And don’t give me “he has to protect the plate” there were at least 2 pitches he fouled off that were well outside, including the second pitch of the at-bat.

    With the game on the line he has to be more selective there.

  818. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Oh, and I’ve looked at Gameday, too. It’s not that easy there, either – trying to put three dimensions on a two-dimension screen. I never noticed, do they adjust for a player’s batting stance for high and low pitches?

  819. Track Wall Outta Here June 18th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    to rocks(are those in your head as well)-get with the program already. leave Andy alone. he has 6 wins. what more do you want?

  820. jeff June 18th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    also, in my grumpy state… sucks for the fans that this game is going to be played today. imagine you’ve been in the stadium since noon and it’s 5 now. no re-entry. DC isn’t in California, they should bite the big one and make it up.

    yankees always lose these “wait it out games” when they have young pitchers on the mound. Happened to joba and hughes both in the last two seasons. Then there was the game last year where they didn’t start Kennedy thinking the game would be rained out in Kansas City!

  821. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Soul…just curious…WHO THE HELL IS TEXMVP?

    And don’t give me the “you responded so you’re rpoving you’re him/her” crap. People have done this to me since I got here.

    My 2 cents is that Melky will endd up being no more than a backup when all is said and done.

  822. GMAN June 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Rainy day thought…

    Anyone think Brad Lidge is salvageable from the Phillies?

  823. Gary June 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Pedro out of the bullpen, throwing gas along with that sick changeup would be unfair

  824. Tom B June 18th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    you can’t fault robi for swinging at ball 3 and 4 like 8 times. when a pitcher throws 95+ low fastballs, the umps dont see it, and anything close could be called a strike.

  825. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Denise,

    Sorry but it was a poor at-bat. There were at least 4 easily discerned balls and 4-5 more that could have gone either way. He showed a lot of skill by fouling off so many pitches but he didn’t show much discipline.

    It’s a pretty big hole in Cano’s game and I wish he would work on it.

  826. 56Bomber June 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    kaseya – kinda joking about the music part…its distinctly tyrolian/bavarian. food is outstanding.

  827. Nat June 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Toronto sweeps Philly

    Wow, what a brutal division.

  828. Track Wall Outta Here June 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    the last person i want to wear a Yankees uniform is pedro.

    plus, he does NOT throw gas anymore. this is not 2003.

  829. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Doreen,

    You can always re-watch the at-bat. It’s pretty obvious even if you don’t trust gameday that he swung at several balls.

    Don’t take my arguments as an attack on Robbie. I’m one of his biggest fans. I’m trying to be real here; it was a bad at-bat.

  830. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    As a 37 year old, his career proves that he is more than capable of pitching better than he has. His shoulder story was common knowledge after Feinsand broke it last year but he kept pitching anyway with terrible results. No such news this year outside of his back bothering him in Cleveland. He has not gotten pummeled, so to say he is “toast” and that the idea he might pitch better is “laughable” are simply not based in reality in any way.

    His command has done him in recently. He has ALWAYS given up hits because he pitches to contact, but when he is locating he can still get American League hitters out right now, which is more than you can say for sure about any of the other options du jour like Ben Sheets or Pedro.

  831. Remo June 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    How many Devils/Giants/Yankees fans who are always positive and never say a negative word about the team and respond to basically every post, are here?

    Pretty easy to tell who is who.

  832. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    And I remember a start of Wang’s where Matt, I believe it was, was saying how you have to look at gameday – gameday showed without a doubt that Wang was getting squeezed, etc., etc. And there were several people here saying you can’t depend on gameday, gameday is always off, etc., etc.

    So, the only person that matters is Cano. Cano felt he had to foul those pitches off, or he tried to hit them and he fouled them off. Not everyone has the eye of Swisher or Giambi. But I thought he battled that at bat. What more can you ask? And if he walked, still no guarantee what the next batter’s going to do no matter who it was. Baseball is very unpredictable. Maybe Posada hits a GS, or maybe he flies out, or maybe HE hits into a DP. You just don’t know. The game was more about Lannan having a really good game.

  833. TIME FOR #27 June 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Gary June 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Pedro out of the bullpen, throwing gas along with that sick changeup would be unfair

    Which pedro are you talking about?

  834. Andrew June 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    This thread has devolved into an absolute joke, I am done. Hopefully there’s a game for all these morons to complain about, but if not I’m sure the night will be filled with stupid scenarios involving signing every guy off the scrap heap to bolster every position on the team. Great.

  835. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    “Pedro out of the bullpen, throwing gas along with that sick changeup would be unfair”

    PEDRO MARTINEZ IS A STAATAH !!! He’s been a staatah for 15 years, he can’t pitch the 8th inning!

  836. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Patrick-That’s what I mean by he’s not ARod. No plate discipline, so you really don’t want him to k looking.

  837. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Cano did have a good AB last night but he hardly ever comes thru… look at his BA with RISP, if he had more plate discipline that would help him…

    Cano has such a low strike out rate and get’s the bat on the ball at such a high % you figure he would hit better with RISP.

  838. DB June 18th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Pel, that ball Melky dove for he didn’t have a chance to cut off anyway. It was either that or just run back to the wall. He might have had a chance at Johnson at third if he did. The game was lost on the blown call at 1st and the dropped throw from Pena. The ball smoked by Johnson never happens if those two plays are made.

  839. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    There’s going to be alot of pissed off fans tonight.

  840. DEN X June 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    You can’t have a rotation full of #5 inconsistent pitchers.

    A couple of those guys have to join CC as reliable guys who you know will give you good starts every time out.

    Joba and Hughes are young pitchers. They are going to be inconstant the entire year and go through their ups and downs. You cannot rely on those guys.

    2 of the Wang/Burnett/Andy crew need to step up and start becoming reliable.

  841. Track Wall Outta Here June 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Andrew-I am following your lead and leaving this thread.

  842. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Geez, way to go, Philly. They lose 2/3 to Boston and get swept at home by the Jays. The Jays have done a great job hanging in and I don’t think they are going away.

  843. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Geez, way to go, Philly. They lose 2/3 to Boston and get swept at home by the Jays. The Jays have done a great job hanging in and I don’t think they are going away.

  844. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    A: Gameday is not the be-all, end-all on pitch location.
    B: How easy for some to say that Cano swung at “definite balls”. Were that in the dirt? At his head?
    C: 4-4 two days ago, 1-3 (at the time) with a HR. Fouled off those “definite balls”. He was getting the bat on the ball, so they couldn’t have been THAT far out of the zone. Law of averages dictates he was going to make an out. Unfortunately, it wasn’t a productive out.

    *the above statements are the opinion of The Other Phil only and are not necessarily agreed with by anyone.

  845. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Patrick -

    I’m not taking your comments as an attack on Robi. I understand you’re talking about his approach in that at-bat. Most people here, from what I’m reading seem to think it was a good at-bat. My only point is I don’t know how anyone but the batter, the catcher, the pitcher and the umpire can clearly discern where the pitches were – and even those 4 don’t always agree.

    I know Cano doesn’t have the best batting eye – he may never. So for him, it was a good at-bat. He fouled off the pitches HE wasn’t sure about.

    I wish it ended better. The conversation today would have been a little better, I think. Infintessimally better, but better all the same. :) Or, maybe I mean slightly less contentious. :)

  846. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    “What more can you ask? ”

    I can ask him to NOT SWING AT BALLS!

    “That’s what I mean by he’s not ARod. No plate discipline, so you really don’t want him to k looking.”

    Uhh no I really don’t want him to GIDP but that’s what he did.

    My point is, Robbie makes no attempt to develop any plate discipline. He just swings at whatever he can make contact with which is absurd. He thinks he’s Vlad when he clearly isn’t.

    Again, I love Robbie but he needs to refine his approach, ESPECIALLY when the game is on the line.

  847. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Remo-LOL I love Devils/Giants/Yanks.

    However, it’s a fallacy that I NEVER say negative things. I’m just more optimistic than not. You just need to read between the lines.

  848. DB June 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    ..and if woody would of went to the police, none of this would of…

    could of, should of, would of. The point is all moot. They got schooled by the kid from LI. Live to fight another day.

  849. Franco June 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Andrew – Maybe you are the one who needs to look in the mirror. You have your head in the sand, Re: Andy Pettitte.

  850. Steve B June 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    “Don’t take my arguments as an attack on Robbie. I’m one of his biggest fans. I’m trying to be real here; it was a bad at-bat.”

    I don’t know, Patrick. Bad at bat seems harsh. It was a 10 pitch at bat in which he ended hitting the ball pretty well. I’d grant you it was largely a defensive at bat and that it was his inability to command the strike zone that put him in a defensive position. But overall we’ve seen a lot worse at bats out of him than that one and will see plenty worse down the road.

  851. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    DB, there’s no problem. If the game is necessary, play it after the season ends. If not, then let it go……..

  852. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    And he did put the bat on the ball, which, when you do that, as we saw with Castillo, anything can happen. When yo strike out, you strike out. (Unless the catcher drops the ball, I guess.)

  853. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    “My vote is for Nick in SF
    He usually keeps his cool when the Yanks are playing poorly and I’m sure he could come up with some hilarious fines.”

    patrick-

    well, my vote cancels your vote .

    i’d be fined so much by nick in sf that i’d have to sell all my livan memorabilia to pay my fines :)

  854. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Patrick-K looking GIDP either way we’re grilling him.

    I agree, Robbie’s approach is terrible in big spots.

    If you look at yesterday’s game post you’ll see I called the loss, even w/Robbie up in the ninth.

  855. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Asking Cano to work a walk in that situation last night is like asking the ice cream vendor to sell you a hot dog. Wrong guy, wrong product.

    Now, I like the story I once read in the Chrysanthemum and the Bat, where in a similar situation the Japanese manager reportedly once instructed the American import playing for him that, “if you think you are going to hit into a double play, strike out.”

  856. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    I hate that white tarp that is sitting on the field

  857. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    4 hour rain delay is absurd and a disgrace. cancel the damn game…

  858. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Just start the game at the usual 7 start.

  859. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Yes we do know where the pitches were. Go re-watch the at-bat. I have and several of the pitches he swung at were outside. At least two of them were WELL outside.

    It’s a complete cop-out to say “well not everyone can be Nick Swisher or Bobby Abreu.” I don’t care who’s at bat. If you swing at balls in that situation and end up GIDP it’s a bad at-bat.

    As I said before, Robbie showed off his skills at making contact but he also showed off his lack of discipline.

  860. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    “There’s going to be alot of pissed off fans tonight.”

    I actually feel sorry for them, such a long wait.

  861. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    I vote Nick in SF.

  862. The Other Phil June 18th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    Cano hits the ball in the hole and it’s a great, gutty at-bat.

    *the opinion of The Other Phil is not necessarily agreed with by anyone.

  863. Ball 4 June 18th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    Philly is not a great team

    As usual, our players thought it was a big series and proceeded to go into the tank. While our rivals made easy work of them. Tampa will probably sweep them too.

  864. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    If you are bored – Ernie P. (the silent one) has a blog about the Giants visit to Yankee Stadium yesterday….

    http://giants.lohudblogs.com

  865. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Doreen should be the Judge

  866. Jerry-NJ June 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Yes we do know where the pitches were. Go re-watch the at-bat. I have and several of the pitches he swung at were outside. At least two of them were WELL outside.

    It’s a complete cop-out to say “well not everyone can be Nick Swisher or Bobby Abreu.” I don’t care who’s at bat. If you swing at balls in that situation and end up GIDP it’s a bad at-bat.

    As I said before, Robbie showed off his skills at making contact but he also showed off his lack of discipline.

    Patrick, I’m inclined to disagree… Cano is an RBI guy in an RBI situation, fouling off tough pitches until he got one he could put in play hard somewhere. It just happened that it was right to the SS; sometimes you can’t aim it. I’ve got no problem at all with his AB there.

  867. Alice June 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    “The game was lost on the blown call at 1st and the dropped throw from Pena. The ball smoked by Johnson never happens if those two plays are made.”

    I strongly disagree, the game was lost on a poor yankee offense

  868. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Cubs Win. The Cubs win, on a bloop single by Soriano in the bottom of the 9th!!

    The crowd sticks around to sing Steve Goodman’s hit “Go Cubs Go.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko58baUVstE

  869. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Philly is playing bad ball right now. When they played us they were playing good ball.

    Also, they’re way better on the road.

  870. DB June 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Patrick, Cano has some of the best hand eye coordination in the league. If it’s close he is going to swing at it. Every pitch last night was close. He was being over matched by 97 mph gas. The pitch he hit was low and away, but he was already in swing mode.

    On a related topic I guess, most pitches that hitters would foul off Cano puts in play. I think it’s one of the reasons why his OBP is so low.

  871. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    “Asking Cano to work a walk in that situation last night is like asking the ice cream vendor to sell you a hot dog. Wrong guy, wrong product.”

    I don’t care who’s at bat. If you swing at balls and GIDP it’s a bad result and a bad approach. In my book that equals a bad at-bat and that’s all I’m arguing.

  872. MP the MC June 18th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Gary June 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Pedro out of the bullpen, throwing gas along with that sick changeup would be unfair

    ——

    Is this serious post? LOL

  873. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    It’s true that if not for the dropped ball and the blown call we’re winning despite great Nats pitching/bad Yanks hitting.

  874. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    “Cano hits the ball in the hole and it’s a great, gutty at-bat. ”

    Wrong. If he hits it in the hole it’s a great result, a terrible approach. But if that were to happen we’d all overlook the bad approach. I’m just shocked that even with the GIDP everyone is overlooking the fact that Robbie should have worked a walk.

    DB,

    Yes he has great hand eye coordination I’m not denying that. He just has a terrible approach at the plate which is what led to what happened last night.

  875. DB June 18th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Calling the loss when the WE for the Yanks rose to 47% at best is hardly revolutionary.

  876. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Well, I don’t think it’s a cop out to say he doesn’t have the same batting eye as some other players. It’s a skill. Perhaps his eye is not as refined as others. It think that’s fair to say.

    It’s not fair to say he doesn’t work on trying to develop it. Unless you know for sure. ;)

  877. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Patrick-

    I’m just saying you can’t expect someone to do something he doesn’t do. You might as well have asked him to bunt Gardner home – Cano isn’t going to walk and he isn’t going to bunt. A better all-around hitter might have walked, and a better bunter might have bunted.

    But Cano isn’t going to walk, he never does.

  878. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    MaineYankee
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
    DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood)
    June 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
    Listening to GB and Randy go back and forth on who is older is like hearing Granny and Aunt Bee debating who is prettier.

    Let’s just call it a tie.
    —————————————————————————
    It would be tough to tell when they both probably look like Granny.

    ————————————————————

    something tells me that you’re no ellymae Clampett, yourself. I’m thinking more along the lines of Pearl or Jethrine.

  879. Bo knows June 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Too right about Cano’s hitting. The guy was smoking the low outside corner at 95 plus. It was an amazing at bat and very entertaining. Talk about drama. To kvetch about the result is totally dweebie. The at bats by the team in the previous innings, well you might have a case there.

  880. DB June 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Patrick, I agree with you. With his skills he should be taking the first pitch 90% of the time.

  881. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    DB , of course. I’m just saying I still did notfeel condfident that whole bottom of the ninth.

    Not bragging or anything.

  882. Dole June 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    And we were on a 9 game win streak when we played Philly. Burnett set the tone with his awful performance. Rollins hitting .220 hits a leadoff HR. Scrub Carlos Ruiz hits a 2-R HR off a fastball when he couldn’t dream of hitting his curve. Just bad pitching by Burnett.

    Anyway, Boston and Toronto will make easy to work of the Nationals too. Tampa swept them.

    Rather than making up ground during this interleague games, we will lose ground.

  883. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    I totally agree with everything Francesca is saying today:)

  884. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Randy-

    Looks like you’re in for it, the tide is moving toward Nick in SF. I’m willing to vote for you, though, if you promise not to criticize my posts for a month.

  885. DallasTEX June 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Your comparing Cano to an ice cream vendor? He’s a human being

  886. Pitt Yanks June 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    “It’s true that if not for the dropped ball and the blown call we’re winning despite great Nats pitching/bad Yanks hitting.”

    And if Castillo catches a routine pop up and the Nats make ROUTINE plays on Tuesday… we are 1-7 in our last 8 games.

    You can play the “what if” games both way.

    Bottom line, we’re not playing well right now.

  887. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    “Yes we do know where the pitches were. Go re-watch the at-bat. I have and several of the pitches he swung at were outside. At least two of them were WELL outside.”

    ———-

    with 2 strikes, it’s more understandable for him to protect the plate and swing at anything close.

    you’re right about Cano’s poor strikezone discipline, but in that case it’s hard to criticize him for swinging at most of the pitches (they were starting over the strikezone and tailing away)

    If Cano could ever improve in that department, he’d be a .350 hitter.

  888. DB June 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Alice there is no denying the Yanks had no offense last night, but Lannan (who looks like Nicholas Cage to me) has been pitching very well. Going into yesterday he had given up 1 run in his last two starts.

  889. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    *Denise*
    June 18th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    I totally agree with everything Francesca is saying today:)

    Just don’t make a habit of it – or we’ll remove the i from your name.

  890. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    does anybody have any idea if/when this game might get started?

    have there been any updates?

  891. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Pitt Yanks-Absolutely you can do the “what if” both ways. But still, you can’t deny the truth of that.

    “Not playing well” is a bit of a fallacy, especially if we win this Nats game. Then we’ve lost a total of one series since the Philly series.

  892. old timer June 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Love this blog and enjoy all the posts and opinions.
    If we all agree to this that the Yankees have the best resources in baseball, money for one. If we agree that on “paper” the Yanks have a team at least in the top 4 in all of baseball, and if we all agree that the Yankees as the roster is set is one of the top 4 rosters in both leagues….Then you as a fan or supporter have every right to question and wonder why the team is not one of the top four teams in baseball. If the Yankees had a roster with talent closer to league average then you could say the team is playing above or at its potential. The team in the last year and a half has not nearly played near or at its potential consistently.
    Taking it further individual players have not played at, up to, or above their potential. Therefore if fans want to complain I think its fine. The Yankees should not be considered as the little train that could, or protrayed as Rocky, or an underdog at in any way against any opponent. They have a roster and talent that should place them in the top spot in the AL east after 50 games. Without some last minute heroics, and poor play by opponents the Yanks could easily be 6 to 8 games out

  893. G. Love June 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    I’m actually starting to think about going to the game now. The worst of the weather is passing.

    They should just call it a 7pm start. They’ll get it in.

  894. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    To say Cano can’t walk so you shouldn’t expect it is absolutely absurd. With his level of talent he SHOULD be able to work a walk, especially in that situation.

    Also don’t you remember last week when he walked with the bases loaded? He can do it, he just gets into swing mode and refuses to take a pitch.

    Every hitter can work a walk. You just… don’t swing!

    “It’s not fair to say he doesn’t work on trying to develop it. Unless you know for sure. ;)”

    Yes it is fair to say that. Look at his walk rates as a rookie and look at them now. Zero improvement.

    Come on people you can admit when one of your favorite players did a poor job. Cano swung at some obvious balls and it ended up resulting in a Yankee loss.

  895. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    “Your comparing Cano to an ice cream vendor? He’s a human being”

    Are you saying ice cream vendors aren’t human? How could you be so cruel?

  896. Mike June 18th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Dave,

    Was supposed to start at 4, then those plans got called off. Nothing new as of now. Radar looks the same… not really any opening to play. The rain will be off and on all evening.

  897. Bo knows June 18th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Talking about taking a walk, no way does 38 year old Posada catch up to that smoke. Check his record for GDP. Cano was the best guy to be up. He hit the ball hard. Sometimes you get the bear…

  898. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Any updates???

    I am 20 miles from the stadium in Central NJ and it is not raining and warm here..no rain, just cloudy and humid

    Weather.com has the rain about to move out….Game time probably starting around 7?

  899. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Boston Dave I am willing to bet it will be the usual 7pm start, but that is just me. I am also willing to predict it will start to rain when they are playing and they’ll have to sit around some more in another rain delay.

  900. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Boston Dave – OPPC
    June 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
    “Yes we do know where the pitches were. Go re-watch the at-bat. I have and several of the pitches he swung at were outside. At least two of them were WELL outside.”
    —————
    with 2 strikes, it’s more understandable for him to protect the plate and swing at anything close.

    you’re right about Cano’s poor strikezone discipline, but in that case it’s hard to criticize him for swinging at most of the pitches (they were starting over the strikezone and tailing away)

    If Cano could ever improve in that department, he’d be a .350 hitter.

    ————————————————————

    Yeah….just imagine how good Clemente might have been if he had a strike zone or if he ever took a walk.

  901. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    old timer-But the thing is the last minute heroics and mistakes DID happen. So we’re not 6-8 games out.

    If anything Boston should have run away w/the division by now.

  902. Peter Abraham June 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    To the guy trying to post assorted obscene stuff as “Mike Rotundo” :

    The Word Press software reads your ISP, genius. You work at Paine Webber in Stamford. You might want to stop doing that. Just a suggestion.

  903. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Patrick-

    I might WANT it (in fact I do want it), but no I never expected it. I can’t believe you did, either.

    You are really venting about a larger issue than last night’s at bat.

  904. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    “well, my vote cancels your vote .

    i’d be fined so much by nick in sf that i’d have to sell all my livan memorabilia to pay my fines :)”

    Randy, you’d be fined simply for HAVING Livan memorabilia!

  905. Cruex June 18th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Uh … can we get off Cano’s last at-bat already?

  906. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Patrick-I will revise my position and say based on the substantial evidence you have given, I now agree w/you. Bad at bat.

  907. Scott June 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    TeixMVP – What makes you think we are playing well? Did you read Pete’s first tidbit today? 6-7 in our last 13, lost 5 of our last 8.

    Every team goes through a rough stretch, no need to sugarcoat it by using the “series” stat.

  908. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Pete, while you’re here, can you ban Mo’sflatcutter from games?

  909. RS June 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Tampa swept the Nationals but all those games were close, and they didn’t face John Lannan. That makes a HUGE difference because Lannan’s ERA is about 2 runs better than the rest of their staff.

  910. Jerkface June 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    THe yankees right now are one of the top 4 teams in the AL, as we are leading the wild card spot???

    Toronto did not make ‘short work’ of philly or ‘handle them easily’ or whatever. GO back and watch the games, both sides had many opportunities to win the games.

  911. TIME FOR #27 June 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    WHEN WILL THIS GAME START?????

  912. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    “I might WANT it (in fact I do want it), but no I never expected it. I can’t believe you did, either.”

    I expect all Yankee hitters to lay off balls out of the strike zone. Especially with a guy on first, facing a sinkerball pitcher with control problems and the game on the line!

    The fact that Cano has so much talent and he continues to show zero plate discipline makes this all the more frustrating.

  913. 7F14Y June 18th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    hey, speaking of Cano, could anyone supply a link for a video of him doing his bat twirling trick that he usually does in the on deck circle?

  914. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    “Looks like you’re in for it, the tide is moving toward Nick in SF. I’m willing to vote for you, though, if you promise not to criticize my posts for a month.”

    wave your hat-

    i’d be a really bad judge. i break too many laws.

    i need to stem the tide for nick in sf. having nick in sf be the judge would be like having swisher be the judge. notice that mo has a sense of humor, but he’s not trying to be funny most of the time.

    how about doreen? i think we need a little female representation when trisha gets fined because she’s going to get fined. a guy will get blamed for sexism. so you see, nick in sf just won’t work.

    i’m throwing my vote in for doreen if cb can’t be elected.

  915. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    atleast we can watch UNC vs ASU tonight at 7…does anybody knw whos pitching?

  916. ANSKY June 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Busted. Our man Pete is Big Brother. Das’ right, yo.

  917. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    There is currently a patch of rain over the Bronx. Nothing is behind it. When that patch is gone my guess is around 7:00.

  918. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Scott-I give up telling people I’m not texmvp (I’m not). So humor me and don’t call me that.

    Every team goes through a tough stretch. But how bad can we be doing if we’ve lost ONE series since the Philly series?

  919. Jerry-NJ June 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    # Peter Abraham June 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    To the guy trying to post assorted obscene stuff as “Mike Rotundo” :

    The Word Press software reads your ISP, genius. You work at Paine Webber in Stamford. You might want to stop doing that. Just a suggestion.

    Classic. That’s great…

  920. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    I can’t believe I’m still dwelling on last night’s game. I don’t even remember how I got sucked into this Cano discussion.

    Anyways, what a bummer this is about the weather. I’m sick of the nonstop rain. It would have been nice to get last night’s bad game out of our minds with a win tonight.

  921. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Maybe during lengthy rain delays Pete should instead repost The Yankee Lohud Blog Classic Threads. Relive the Randy-Nick Livan Hernandez food fight, the SJ44-Wave Andy Pettitte imbroglio, the “disco fries” discussion or Trisha’s last stand at the Posada Alamo. I could see a market there…

  922. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    I doubt Nick in SF would want to be judge.

    No one wants the scrutiny that post would bring.

    They would sweep through his past and heaven forbid if they found anything other than straight bets in his closet.

    Teasers and Exotic prop bets would certainly raise a scandal.

  923. Ronnie June 18th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Adam Warren looked pretty bad the other day. Flat slider, bad control,

    There was nobody else available better in the 3rd round?

  924. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    And who could forget such classics as:

    “Wang is not an ace”

    “REAL FANS V FAKE FANS – FISTFIGHT!”

  925. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    maybe Joe G should start Brian Bruney like he did in the now infamous IPK rain game.

    (As David Cone put it, Kennedy got jerked off in the bullpen).

  926. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    randy,

    My second choice would be CB if you veto Nick.

    The only problem with Nick is he would probably force everyone to send him Moose bars as payment.

  927. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    “To the guy trying to post assorted obscene stuff as “Mike Rotundo” :

    The Word Press software reads your ISP, genius. You work at Paine Webber in Stamford. You might want to stop doing that. Just a suggestion.”

    Great. Another financial “wizard” hard at work shrinking our 401K’s.

  928. sar515 June 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    So after all the anal-ysis of Cano, the game, the bad start, the Yankees flaws, Girardi, the Bosux, thids “pathetic” team…

    I’m curious to hear where most posters stand on the Yankees position at this point of the season.

    3 games back…leading the wild card…4th best record in baseball?

  929. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Guys you’re forgetting the best ever…

    Joba to the pen!

    I haven’t been here long enough to know if posts were spent discussing it, but I have a suspicion they were. It was discussed EVERYWHERE.

  930. Banks June 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    MLB hates to schedule games after the regular season is over.

    Most of the time, the game just gets canceled unless they have playoff implications.

  931. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    I’ll never invest with Paine Webber again!!

  932. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    “Randy, you’d be fined simply for HAVING Livan memorabilia!”

    patrick-

    precisely the reason there should be no nick in sf for judge, though he might go easy on me for making so much money off of his betting on livan after noticing that livan was winning more than one would think after looking silly telling me how bad livan was.

    actually nick in sg deserves a fine for ragging on me so much about livan and then making money off of betting on livan.

  933. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Here we go again…Jobber in the bullpen and Yuse in the rotation….don’t you love rain delays.

  934. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    “I expect all Yankee hitters to lay off balls out of the strike zone. Especially with a guy on first, facing a sinkerball pitcher with control problems and the game on the line!”

    Patrick, if you expect it from Cano then you are headed for acid reflux city, then. Don’t go there, is my advice – prescription antacids are really expensive.

  935. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    lemme guess useful pitcher = Bronson Arroyo right fat @$$ :roll:

  936. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Kevin in the 908-I mentioned it because we were talking about the blog’s greatest hits.

  937. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    “actually nick in sg deserves a fine for ragging on me so much about livan and then making money off of betting on livan.”

    Oh absolutely! That is a perfect fine for kangaroo court.

  938. RS June 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    “And if Castillo catches a routine pop up and the Nats make ROUTINE plays on Tuesday… we are 1-7 in our last 8 games.”

    I’ll give you Castillo, but the Nats not making routine plays is part of who they are as a team. They have a good offense and bad pitching. If they played good defense they might have a shot at 70-75 wins. Having the worst defense in baseball is why they’re on pace for 110+ losses. They deserved every bit of that loss on Tuesday.

  939. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    No…Francesa just mentioned that to a caller

  940. G. Love June 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    If my last name was Rotundo, I would name my first male child Orlando Rotundo just because it sounds so nice.

  941. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Cashman says he foresees no moves at the deadline.

    Yeah right. The kidder. Just like Nick Swisher was our starting first baseman.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

  942. Banks June 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Knicks need to draft Brandon Jennings

  943. Observer283 June 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    On the plate discipline thing:
    It is not merely a matter of will. If it were a matter of will, we would see more guys whose plate discipline improved drastically throughout their careers. Simply put, some guys are better at judging whether a pitch will end up in the strike zone than others. Working at improving this skill will certainly lead to improvement, but at certain point, natural ability plays a roll.

    If everyone in the MLB worked really hard at plate discipline, they would not all automatically become Wade Boggs or even Nick Swisher.

    Maybe Cano is just one of those guys who just will not develop exceptional plate discipline even if he tried really hard.

    Personally, I’m encouraged by his uptick in power. If it’s real, then I won’t mind the lack of plate disciple nearly as much. What I don’t want to see is a singles hitter who doesn’t get on base. That would be a problem.

    So in sum, if Robby keeps hitting bombs, I can deal with the lack of walks. (Especially since he is at a position where hitting is a premium).

  944. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    “Great. Another financial “wizard” hard at work shrinking our 401K’s.”

    Sure he’s losing all our money. Sure he’s a Net surfing goof.
    But at least he’s doing it on a YANKEE blog.

    It makes it all a little less painful knowing that….

  945. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Baseball seasons underway.
    Just not today.
    Hey New York, whadda you say,
    The Yanks will win today, if we play.

    They’re saying, Go Yanks Go.
    Hey New York, whadda you say,
    The Yanks will win today, if we play.

    They got the power, they got the speed.
    To be the 2nd best in the American League.
    Well this is the year and the Yanks are real,
    so come to the new field and watch homers fly with zeal.

    Were, singing, Go Yanks Go.
    Hey New York, whadda say.
    We’re gonna win if we play today.

    Baseball time is here again.
    You can catch it all on ESPN [not].
    So stamp your feet and clap your hands.
    New York and Pete’s blog got the greatest fans.

    You’re singing now, Go Yanks Go. Go Yanks Go.
    Hey New York whadda you say.
    The Yankees are gonna win today if they play.

    Edited by YT

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko58baUVstE

  946. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    When was the “Last Stand”?
    Under Pete’s “In defense of Posada Post” ?

  947. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    I was hoping to get a bidding war going between Randy and Nick, but Nick seems to be working or something. Randy, if you won’t stoop to bribery to win the election then I could live with a nice person like Doreen. I sure won’t vote for Patrick because he would have already fined me over Cano’s at bat last night.

  948. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Kevin in the 908-Oh. Okay then.

  949. Mike June 18th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Per Francessa – 6:30 “proposed” starting time.

  950. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    1 hour.

  951. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Could they be taking the tarp off the field…what a wonderful sight!!!

  952. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    “The only problem with Nick is he would probably force everyone to send him Moose bars as payment.”

    patrick-

    now you’re starting to see the problem with nick in sf as judge. notice how mo would never do such a thing.

    especially after mussina said mo lost the 2001 world series. mo wants no moose bars :)

  953. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    “Knicks need to draft Brandon Jennings”

    It’s either Curry or Rubio or bust for me.

  954. Z Man June 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    The crowd is going to be so dead tonight

    May be 500 people in the stands. 6 hour rain delay, Nationals, rainy night

  955. Whatever June 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    And Bubba Crosby will be our CF.

  956. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Tarp is being peeled off.

  957. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    I hope this great yankee drainage system is as good as the yanks claim to be. If I see one yankee outfielder slip today, Lonn Trost should be fired.

  958. Z Man June 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Jennings is a clown… another Marbury. Selfish, full of himself, not a winning player.

    He did say he wanted to be a Knick though (most of the NBA prospects have lol).

  959. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    6:30 is the new gametime start.

  960. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    What would be really funny with Classic Threads is if once they were posted, you could then go in and post new replies to the old comments. It would probably lead to virtual fist fights, but the comic potential is high.

  961. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    “I hope this great yankee drainage system is as good as the yanks claim to be.”

    It worked for Matsui.

  962. DC 212 June 18th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    I want Rubio so badly

    I hated Curry in the beginning, but I’ve warmed up to him. This is a pretty weak draft after the top 2 anyway, so there is not much to choose from.

  963. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    ” I sure won’t vote for Patrick because he would have already fined me over Cano’s at bat last night.”

    wave your hat-

    i agree. patrick is a potential high contributor to the charity of choice because he can really get crazy sometimes. mention livan 10 times in a row and watch what happens to him.
    some people just have no patience and appreciation for useful bad pitching.

  964. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    “When was the “Last Stand”?
    Under Pete’s “In defense of Posada Post” ?

    Yes – although it was one of those really classic arguments which spanned multiple threads.

  965. Dev June 18th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    We have an awful record in rain games don’t we?

    Lost @ Texas
    Lost home Texas
    Lost vs. the Mets on Sat.
    Lost both to Boston
    Lost both to Tampa
    Lost 3 in Boston

    Those Oakland games were the only ones where we did well in the wet weather.

  966. Forntoso June 18th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Nats should feel right at home playing in front of 200 fans

  967. bphill June 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Good lord this delay is a killer.

  968. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    June 18th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
    “When was the “Last Stand”?
    Under Pete’s “In defense of Posada Post” ?

    Yes – although it was one of those really classic arguments which spanned multiple threads.

    Oh I know. Just wanted to know where it “ended”

  969. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    “Patrick, if you expect it from Cano then you are headed for acid reflux city, then. Don’t go there, is my advice – prescription antacids are really expensive.”

    Ha ha very funny.

    Maybe I’m too optimistic that Cano will someday develop plate discipline. Or maybe I’m expecting too much from him right now.

    “I sure won’t vote for Patrick because he would have already fined me over Cano’s at bat last night.”

    I wouldn’t vote for me either! There are several instances where I deserve to be fined and I’m certainly not going to fine myself :)

  970. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Ho hum. Twiddle thumbs. Flip to Raymond. Keep checking clock…

    An hour and a quarter.

  971. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Sorry bad at math.

    45 minutes.

  972. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    street is trying to blow the save against the rays

  973. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Was there a good promotion today to at least make this worthwhile to the poor souls there?

  974. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    “I hope this great yankee drainage system is as good as the yanks claim to be. If I see one yankee outfielder slip today, Lonn Trost should be fired.”

    That’ll be 3 Moose Bars for mentioning that name.

  975. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    “patrick is a potential high contributor to the charity of choice”

    Geez you aren’t kidding. Last year I bet SJ44 that the Yankees would score as many runs or more than they did in 2007. That’s at least a box of moose bars right there.

  976. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    come on street!!!…

  977. Rose June 18th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Cano had a good at bat last night. Fouled off pitches, had to protect the plate. Grounded int a dp, unfortunate.

    I also would not have had a problem if Alex stole 2nd and they walked Cano to face Posada.

    ————————————————————–

    Pedro hasn’t thrown gas for a few years.

  978. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    I bet a Red Sox fan friend 20 bucks Yanks win the division. I avoided paying by pointing out that the Sox didn’t win it either. Truthfully though, that wasn’t part of the bet. I owe my friend a box of moose bars.

  979. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Ok be back later ppl

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUIzLUjg-AA

  980. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    patrick-

    i said before sj44 would have his share of fines which i’m sure he’d readily agree.

    sj44 is right that the yanks could be an offensive powerhouse if they could get all their offensive cylinders running at the same time.

  981. bob June 18th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    i missed trisha’s last stand at the posada alamo. explain … please!

  982. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    “thanks to this year’s pathetic performance against boston, i find myself in the hole $400 and hoping for a miracle.”

    now we find the back story to why you wanted hughes to start so much in boston.

  983. Baseball Fab June 18th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    God bless any baseball FAN that stayed 5.5 hours and gets to see this game, Pete is so right, those people NEED to get some free tickets, or food or something, Yanks take care of your best fans, as those are the very same ones still at the park

  984. right center gap in NY June 18th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Who is throwing out the 1st pitch tonight? I feel sorry for him/her. Person was forced to wait about 6 hrs…..OUCH!!!

  985. Erica June 18th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Okay- I am finally leaving work. Talk to you all later.

    Let’s go Yankees!

  986. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    I saw on Keith Law’s ESPN SportsNation chat http://proxy.espn.go.com/sport.....-keith-law that Law is down on Austin Jackson. Here’s what he said:

    Charlie (NY, NY)
    Why did you make that negative comment about Austin Jackson? You don’t think he’ll be a good major leaguer?
    Keith Law
    I think his ceiling has dropped every year. I don’t see much chance remaining of him becoming a star.

    Does anyone who follows the minor league teams understand where he is coming from?

  987. Mike June 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Street gets out of it… Rockies beat the Rays.

  988. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    The Austin Jackson bandwagon has been losing a few members lately. Someone on RAB mentioned something like that.

  989. hardwired June 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Watching John Lannan pitch last night was a thing of beauty. Relaford was giving him the benefit of a floating strike zone, and the blown call @1st gave him the win, but it was still a masterful effort.

    The Yanks had a money lineup (minus Jeter), and he mowed right through them. He was ready to throw the next pitch before he had the ball back from the catcher. I hope he lays the same effort on the Sox in his next start.

  990. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    The problem with Austin Jackson is he is striking out way too much.

  991. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    hardwired-Can’t you just tell that he’s not going to have it his start vs. the Sox?

  992. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    randy l.
    June 18th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
    patrick-

    i said before sj44 would have his share of fines which i’m sure he’d readily agree.

    sj44 is right that the yanks could be an offensive powerhouse if they could get all their offensive cylinders running at the same time.

    ————————————————————

    Well, luckily, for guys like me, which, sadly for you people, there are so few like me, I won’t get getting no fines from you $^#*^##(!?’s.. I never do or say anything wrong.

  993. matt June 18th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-the-curse if this doesn’t bring trisha out of her shell, nothing will!

  994. D-Train June 18th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    From Heyman’s Twitter -

    yanks are eyeing street or valverde for 8th inning. but neither the #rockies or #astros is about to sell yet
    about 1 hour ago from web

  995. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Wow…Mike is steamed with the USGA crap. Yikes

  996. Jack Clark greatest Yankee ever June 18th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Jack Clark for Hall of Fame. Steroid free Superstar.

  997. hardwired June 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Unfortunately, w/the way the Sox have been rumbling along lately, I’ll be surprised if Lannan makes it out of the 4th inning.

    It all boils down to the homeplate ump for a pitcher like Lannan. If he doesn’t get the benefit of the borderline calls, he’ll be forced to throw it over the plate. If he does that, sayonara.

  998. Snake June 18th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    UPDATE, 6:10 p.m.: According to the Yankees, once the game starts it would be the third-longest delay before the start of a game in baseball history. That is unofficial, however. The record is 7 hours and 27 minutes.

    Playing this game is sooo unnecessary.

  999. charlestonfan June 18th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Just for the heck of it, let’s give A-Rod credit for that walkoff, game winning, pop-up error.

    Alex is one of the strongest guys in the league and he hit that ball so hard that it stayed up a LONG time and had a LOT of spin on it, causing it to spin out of Castillo’s glove. Sure, Castillo should have squeezed harder, but it’s not like he was going about catching it any differently than usual. He was under it, never lost the ball. It just spun like a mo-fo.

    So I’ll give him a fraction of the credit, at least.

  1000. V June 18th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    The Sox will score 8 off Lannan. He’s not any good.

  1001. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Too many Ks, huh? Interesting. The only thing negative I heard is that Jackson isn’t hitting HRs. Many here have been expecting him to take over CF next year. Perhaps not, then. I wonder how the Yanks are evaluating AJ within the organization.

  1002. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    “Well, luckily, for guys like me, which, sadly for you people, there are so few like me, I won’t get getting no fines from you $#*##(!?’s.. I never do or say anything wrong.”

    Close parenthesis after “wrong”.

    That’s a moose bar right there.

  1003. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Lannan had a pretty good ERA. And he pitched a heck of a game.

  1004. Jack Clark greatest Yankee ever June 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    those who doubt Jack Clark’s greatness live in denial and have obvious axes to grind.

  1005. The Monk June 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Disgraceful. Game should have been called.

  1006. Scott June 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Sox will sweep the Nats and none of the games will be close.

  1007. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Ed H.
    June 18th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
    I saw on Keith Law’s ESPN SportsNation chat http://proxy.espn.go.com/sport.....-keith-law that Law is down on Austin Jackson. Here’s what he said:

    Charlie (NY, NY)
    Why did you make that negative comment about Austin Jackson? You don’t think he’ll be a good major leaguer?
    Keith Law
    I think his ceiling has dropped every year. I don’t see much chance remaining of him becoming a star.

    Does anyone who follows the minor league teams understand where he is coming from?

    ————————————————————

    One can only assume that because Jackson is following the advice of Wynegar and the organization to concentrate on hitting the ball to center and right and forget about the power for the time being.

    Every part of his game is on target except for the issue of strikeouts. He’s had about half of them are looking, which means that he’s making headway in attempting to get more walks. For what it’s worth, his walks are up slightly and strikouts are down slightly.

  1008. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    I am glad they’re playing. I always like seeing some baseball.

  1009. Doris from Rego Park June 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    francessa about to have an anurisym

  1010. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Why is Alex playing 3rd? Hmm, bad hip, wet field – good combo.

  1011. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Why is Alex playing 3rd? Hmm, bad hip, wet field – good combo.

  1012. Kevin in the 908 June 18th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Rightfully so Doris from Rego Park….the USGA is a disgrace for doing this.

  1013. ITC 23 June 18th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Yes… this game is so important that they have to play after a 6 hour delay on a soggy field, in wet conditions. Then they have to get on a plane and fly to Miami

    What was the harm in just canceling it and playing it at the end of the season if it was necessary?

  1014. Baseball Fab June 18th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Come on Yanks be big, let every poor sucker who sat there for 5 hours jump the moat and sit in the best seats. DO THE RIGHT THING.

  1015. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    It’s just ridiculous that they waited this game out – with our luck, multiple Yankees will go down. They couldn’t just play it after the season ends…..IF there is a tiebreaker (and the odds on that are slim to none)?

  1016. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    June 18th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
    “Well, luckily, for guys like me, which, sadly for you people, there are so few like me, I won’t get getting no fines from you $#*##(!?’s.. I never do or say anything wrong.”

    Close parenthesis after “wrong”.

    That’s a moose bar right there.

    ————————————————————

    For your information, Mr. Smartypants, that was part of my swearing.

    Damned, I love being childish.

  1017. Holla June 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    You want Berroa out there? And Pena? And Cervelli? And Gardner? In the same lineup

    Now that the game is getting played, they should atleast try and win it, right?

  1018. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    I read further and found that that is exactly the point that Law made, too many strikeouts:

    Charlie (NY, NY)
    Ajax is hitting over 330 this year in AAA. He’s fast, athletic, will hopefully develop more power. His only problem is too many strikeouts.
    Keith Law
    He’s hitting .330, but has too many strikeouts. That usually works out well.

  1019. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Michael Kay looks tired.

  1020. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Snake June 18th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    UPDATE, 6:10 p.m.: According to the Yankees, once the game starts it would be the third-longest delay before the start of a game in baseball history. That is unofficial, however. The record is 7 hours and 27 minutes.

    Playing this game is sooo unnecessary.

    —————

    How is it unnecessary?

    These teams have no mutual off day the rest of the season.

    There’s no other choice unless they don’t play it at all or they wait until the regular season is over and play the game in case they need to break a tie in the standings.

  1021. Those who doubt Austin Jackson June 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    haven’t actually watched him play ever!! That much is obvious.

    I’ve watched him, in person, numerous times. He has a beautiful stroke, he’s fluid, and is a smart ballplayer. Cutting down on the k’s will come in time. He’s a patient hitter, not a wild swinger, he works counts and finds himself in deep counts, often.

  1022. Nome June 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Yankees don’t want to refund the ticket money. They would not reschedule the game, they would cancel it and only re-schedule it if it were necessary. So they would lose the gate money from this game.

    It’s a business decision.

  1023. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Betsy
    June 18th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    Why is Alex playing 3rd? Hmm, bad hip, wet field – good combo.

    ————————————————————

    Not a real good idea to have 4 of the big bats all missing the same game, either.

  1024. Dr. J June 18th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    You don’t “postpone” a game for after the regular season ends.

    You only play it if there are playoff implications, like they were for the White Sox last year who needed to win a makeup game against the Tigers to force a 1 game playoff.

  1025. Doris from Rego Park June 18th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    I have a serious question- does anyone know when John Sterling’s contract is up? I cannot fathom how the Yankee management keeps this guy on… Its disgraceful and a slap in the face to any real baseball fan. For a team thats obsessed with having the best of everything it makes no sense.

  1026. Mark June 18th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Betsy, you want 4 of our big bats out of the lineup because of a little rain?

  1027. Jack Clark greatest Yankee ever June 18th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Jack Clark for Old Timers Day!!!!!!

    He’d be the MVP of the game every year. The guy can still rake.

  1028. miggs June 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    This is perfect timing…..

    I wasn’t going to be able to catch any of the game today because of work obligations. Usually I can arrange my schedule around things I don’t want to miss, but today was going to be dicey.

    Now I don’t miss the game OR any meaningful US Open action. Couldn’t have possibly worked out better.

    Dinner, drinks, and Yankees baseball.

  1029. ITC 23 June 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    They better not lose after waiting all this time and going out there on a wet field. That would just be salt in the wounds.

  1030. Doris from Rego Park June 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    BTW- I understand Posada doesnt catch day games after a night ones but this is now 2 night games in a row. just sayin

  1031. Jeff in Canada June 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Today in the news:
    “As MLB.com’s Nathalie Alonso reports, Brian Cashman doesn’t expect to make a major move before the trade deadline, since he likes the team he’s assembled. He said he wants to see how the team looks once Jose Molina, Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte return from injuries. “If we get everyone healthy and performing the way they are capable of here, there will be very little to do,” Cashman said.”

    Three weeks from now:
    “MLB.com reports that the Yankees have traded Jose Molina, Xavier Nady, Damaso Marte, two Double-A prospects, and cash, to the Mets and A’s in a multi-team deal that brings Matt Holiday and Carlos Beltran to the Bronx. It is also being reported that Pedro Martinez has been fitted for pinstripes, and that the Yankees are on the brink of acquiring reliever Huston Street and a number 2 starter Erik Bedard. All of this movement has been orchestrated by Yankees General Manager, Brian “Bob Sugar” Cashman, who said that these deals were already in place in principle, “about 4 weeks ago.” “

  1032. miggs June 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Yeah let’s call up the entire Scranton squad and sit all the regulars.

    Can’t risk injuries over a little rain! Who cares about winning the game or the fans that have waited this out for 6 hours?

    Genius.

  1033. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    GB7,

    Thanks. Sounds like he’s still very much a work in progress. Glad to know he’s on track, tough.

  1034. Wave Your Hat June 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    “I wasn’t going to be able to catch any of the game today because of work obligations. Usually I can arrange my schedule around things I don’t want to miss, but today was going to be dicey.

    Now I don’t miss the game OR any meaningful US Open action. Couldn’t have possibly worked out better.”

    This proves that everything in the world balances out. Even-Stephen. For every winner there’s a loser. Etc.

    The game has been delayed to exactly the wrong time for me. Gotta go – I hope to catch the back half of the game.

    It’s been fun today – Go Yanks!

  1035. AZ Four June 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    There is no DH for the next 9 games… might as well rest Posada today.

    Don’t know what that means for A-Rod though.

  1036. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Joba is throwing GAS. 89 mph

  1037. Mark H June 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    In an appearance on Sirius XM Radio, Jonathan Papelbon told Jody McDonald and Bert Blyleven that he would consider playing for the Yankees once his Boston career is over:

    “Oh, of course. I mean, I think if we can’t come to an agreement on terms here in a Red Sox uniform, I mean I think that’s pretty much the writing on the wall.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....n-on-.html

  1038. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    wow they turned 2 on that lol

  1039. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    how did they turn that dp? lol

  1040. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    Great…2 pitches and already no control. Then he gets hit hard again. Send him to the bullpen…bench him…trade him for a bag of donuts….release the bum. Who’s calling all of these pitches anyway? Posada?

  1041. Ben June 18th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    biggest joke is that the fans aren’t allowed to move down. seriously, no one is there. let them move down from the upper deck

  1042. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Pap closing out Joba lol

  1043. DallasTEX June 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    did kay just say Posada?

  1044. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    wow John you sleep 2 times!

  1045. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    “did kay just say Posada?”

    Maybe he’s been drinking. It was a long delay

  1046. Mo June 18th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    One minute?!!?!?!? Posada called an inside slider that hung up???? I thought only Posada could do that!!!

  1047. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    I was referring to Alex DHing…yeah, right, a little rain. Alex is also 100% healthy -ok.

  1048. Mark H June 18th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    The announcers are out of it Posada is behind the plate and Flaherty likes to sleep a lot during delays.

  1049. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    i wish joba had his cleveland velocity….

  1050. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    94 mph

  1051. Jeff in Canada June 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    “Pap closing out Joba lol”

    That’s a lot of fist pumps.

  1052. jerkface June 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Today is officially a come from behind win

  1053. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    well that pitch was 94 on gameday…he should live at 94 and go from there…

  1054. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Cornhusker hurling…

    Baseball gods and nimbus watch…

    Fire cuts through rain…

  1055. Mo June 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Doh!! I meant Cervelli.

  1056. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    If Joba wants to throw as hard as Pedro, maybe we should just sign Pedro.

  1057. KO June 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Ugh, the Yankees are playing really crappy lately. It’s disgusting that they go into any extended swoons, they have too much talent. This team shouldn’t be allowed in the same park as the Yankees. If they lose two out of 3 that would be pretty gross. The Yanks need to bring their bats tonight- 7 runs in two games against the Nats is pitiful. Honestly, we should score like 10 runs tonight and win. But what should happen doesn’t always happen. I just want us to start playing some better baseball, that is all. Starting tonight.

  1058. pat June 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Yankee fans… come on down.

  1059. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Seat freee for all! Yanks NOT heartless!
    Storm the moat!

  1060. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Cano is 10-for-20 over his last 5 games with 3 HRs. But he should have bunted last night.

  1061. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    yea gardy!!!!

  1062. Michel June 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Yanks are doing something nice for the fans that waited so long, good to see.

  1063. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    good for the Yankees letting all the fans sit down in lower level…that’s the least they could do!

  1064. miggs June 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    How did Gardner get on base?

  1065. Bad Scooter June 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    GGBG!!!!

  1066. Brandon W June 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    If I remember correctly, the last time Joba started after a decently long rain delay he had mechanical issues and pitched badly. Him having a few control issues in the first tonight doesn’t surprise me; if he can keep his mechanics good after that delay then I think he has a chance to do fine tonight, now that he’s through the first and has some decent velocity (94 on the last pitch).

  1067. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Yo Franco,

    Cano doesn’t BUNT! period get over it!

  1068. elee June 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Posada is today’s catcher

  1069. KO June 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Gardner should be stealing every single time he gets on first base. 3 pitches and he doesn’t try once? Weak, weak, weak.

  1070. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Sterling just said that the Yanks have invited fans to move down to sit in any uboccupied seat. Good move.

  1071. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    “How did Gardner get on base?”

    single

  1072. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Gardner stole first.

  1073. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    what will it take to move A-Rod down in the order? Tito moved Ortiz down to 6th or 7th, forget which, and he responded and is hitting now…A-Rod would then show he’s part of a team and learn how to again, swallow some pride

  1074. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    MLB, not the Yankees, make the decision to play. The game is in their hands, not the Yankees.

    If you are going to whine, at least know the rules of the game.

  1075. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    It’s like the French Revolution.

    Viva la Moatstorming.

  1076. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Carl,

    LOL!

  1077. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Joba will do his job today even if he doesn’t pitch well.

    In his 24 major league starts, he has allowed 3 ER or less in 21 of them.

    Joba knows how to limit the damage and keep his team in the game even when he looks terrible.

    It’s very rare to find a 23 year old kid who has that kind of ability and he’s not even close to a finished product.

  1078. PB June 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    if gardner stole 2nd before damon grounded out, he would have scored already

  1079. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Look at that bum, Rodriguez trying to work a walk instead trying to hit a homer.

  1080. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Oh he tried to hit a homer…in the dirt.

  1081. terpbomber June 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Swinging at ball four doesn’t start a rally.

  1082. NYY626 June 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    alex looks really dejected. Im actually starting to feel for the guy…

  1083. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    geez arod if your gonna swing at a ball in the dirt atleast let it be a slider or curve…not a bouncing fb

  1084. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    A-Rod looks like a hitter that stopped taking steroids.

  1085. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    He is completely lost. What a mess.

  1086. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Kaseya after a whole 1 inning of play they sure do look that way.

  1087. KO June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    oh my god….. are you serious A-Rod…. getting fooled on an offspeed pitch in the dirt is one thing… but swinging at a fastball in the dirt there, WOW. I don’t even know what to say about that. This man is in serious need of a day off. A high schooler should be able to take that fastball in the dirt.

  1088. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    GF was being sarcastic. He knows Cano shouldn’t have bunted. He and I were arguing with people this morning who thought he should.

  1089. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Cervelli!!!

  1090. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    posada doesnt do that

  1091. Eric H June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Did Michael Kay seriously just say that “mud” is an onomatopoeia?

  1092. pat June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Cervelli went for syle points on that one.

  1093. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    atta boy Cisco

  1094. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Even fasciously, I can’t get to the stupidity level of some on here.

  1095. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    awe, we just love him!!! does he think he’s still tryout out for the team? lol

  1096. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    I knew it! Cervelli really IS Superman!

  1097. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    LOL he didn’t need to jump.

  1098. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    wow jorge actually laughed lol..

  1099. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Posada is mean!

  1100. Baseball Fab June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Hmmmm did he think he was Melky with the unnecessary leap?

  1101. Clare June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    SJ44,

    I don’t know that rule, could you elaborate please?

    Are you going to watch Tony’s professional debut tomorrow?

  1102. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Big deal on the Cervelli catch.

    Posada would have had it on the second bounce.

  1103. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    “Cervelli went for syle points on that one.”

    ——-

    that was pretty funny. reminds me of Jacoby Ellsbury.

  1104. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Denise June 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Yo Franco,

    Cano doesn’t BUNT! period get over it!

    —————–

    Duh. Check your sarcasm meter because it ain’t working.

    I must have argued with Dr. Cox for an hour this morning about why bunting Cano in that situation last night is about as stupid as it gets.

    Nobody on this board has ever seen Cano bunt, yet he was pretty convinced that it was a smart move to ask Cano to do something we don’t even know he knows how to do.

  1105. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Cano, stop being lazy and dive for that instead of fielding it cleanly.

  1106. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    “Did Michael Kay seriously just say that “mud” is an onomatopoeia?”

    haha like I posted before, maybe he’s been drinking. Either that or he’s on something

  1107. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    SJ44,

    well that’s relief – love sarcasm, but hard to tell on a blog when all u can do is type!

  1108. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    do the nats just want to make outs?

  1109. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    “boy, this looks like a team that can’t wait to be on a flight to florida.”

    are you basing that on ONE inning, or everything you saw in the 5 hour rain delay too?

  1110. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    He had a day off on Monday. I’ll take my chances with a slumping Arod over Angel Berroa.

  1111. KO June 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Kay just said that Joba didn’t have to dive for that bunt pop up he caught. Any, any credibility he has just disappeared. What, does he think Joba has go go inspector gadget arms???? of course he had to dive for that to have a chance.

  1112. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Eric H
    June 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    Did Michael Kay seriously just say that “mud” is an onomatopoeia?

    huh what did he say?

  1113. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Gieseppe Franco,

    well sorry, I missed that this morning…then I change my comment, “love the sarcasm!”

    a few people called Mike Francesa today and suggested the same thing. Some people are so dumb, they are standing in their own way and they don’t even know it!

  1114. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    boy, this looks like a team that can’t wait to be on a flight to florida.

    losing a series to the nationals at home would be inexcusable.

    ————-

    Good to see you are the very same whiner that lurked these boards three years ago when 20 comments on a game thread was the norm, not 1,000+ as it is now.

    Your act is extremely tired and stale.

    Pete questioned your loyalty as a Yankee “fan” back then too. Doom and gloom and nothing of substance.

  1115. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    “What, does he think Joba has go go inspector gadget arms????”

    that would be *really* cool…

    dam hernandez

  1116. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Clank.

  1117. Brandon W June 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    22 pitches through 2 innings for Joba. He may not be spot on so far tonight, but he’s being economical. A team with a third of their hitters batting under .250 and swinging at first pitches helps, of course.

    As to the Cano bunting discussion: didn’t Girardi have Cano try to bunt a couple of times last year, early in the season? I’m pretty sure I remember Cano trying to bunt and looking like an absolute fool doing it. With Cano’s swing and ability to make hard contact, he isn’t someone I would want to try to bunt. Especially not when he is on a hot streak.

  1118. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    oh boy, hope this game doesn’t shape up to be a mirror of last nite

  1119. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Joba sux

  1120. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Just turning this game on now. How has Jobber looked so far?

  1121. Robert O'Kelly June 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Yeah Kasey! This team isn’t in any rush. It’s only the 2nd inning! Oh..what? 5 pitch bottom of the 2nd? 3rd inning already? Nevermind…..

  1122. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Wow. Saw all of 5 pitches that inning.

  1123. RS June 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    We might have a problem here. The Yankees offense doesn’t show up until the 7th inning, but there’s a good chance this game gets called off after 5. We might actually lose this series to the Nats unless the bats change their ways.

  1124. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    i dont care whether this is a getaway day or not..work the count and get to the nats pen..they played this game yesterday and it didnt work…you cant just lollygag through this game and hope you get a couple runs

  1125. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Just to ease little minds of the “Why Can’t Cano Bunt” crowd, he has 15 bunt attempts and 1 single, 10 sac bunts in his career. There more he becomes an offensive threat, like all others, the fewer times he’ll be bunting.

  1126. Doreen June 18th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Just got back from kick-boxing. :) Skimmed the last 2 hours’ or so worth of posts.

    I guess I need to switch computers after this to watch the game. :oops:

    Um – what is this judging thing that people have mentioned my name for? I was back and forth all day and missed big chunks of dialogue here.

    And Now, the switch.

  1127. Lara08 June 18th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Now if you triple dog dare me….

  1128. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Alex is moving good

  1129. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    nice play pena

  1130. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Yeah Pena!

  1131. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    does anyone know who is really writing on Twitter under Hank Steinbrenner? it’s so rude, it’s hillarious

  1132. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    AWWWWsome throw by Cervelli.

  1133. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Nice

  1134. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Cervelli guns him down.

  1135. RS June 18th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Pena gets the out, but Cervelli’s still mad at himself for not making a good throw. I love this kid.

  1136. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Okay. New room. New computer. Game on.

    How are they in he 3rd inning already and how are they already down 1-0?

  1137. Nibble Not June 18th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Guzman = Mid Papi?

  1138. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    8 pitch inning = :)

  1139. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Clare,

    the game is in the hands of the umpires once you get to gametime. They take control of the decisionmaking.

    Tony is debuting Saturday at Williamsport for State College. The SAL is heading into their ASB after the weekend and the Pirates didn’t want to move him around twice to get AB’s.

    He’s going to be with State College until Wednesday. He the heads to Wichita for the Johnny Bench Award. After that, he will be in Charleston next weekend and will remain in the SAL for the rest of the season.

    I’m going to be at the Yankees-Marlins series this weekend. We want to give Tony some space and let him get comfortable before visiting.

  1140. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    C’mon, a few runs here. Let’s avoid any potential embarassment.

  1141. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    uh oh joba is throwing 96…watch out

  1142. pat June 18th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    “a five-pitch inning. seriously?”

    It took Alex more pitches than that to strike out. :wink:

  1143. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    I just read the Papelbon quote. Hmmm. Loyal guy, huh? :) At least he’s honest about it being about the contract.

  1144. Dan June 18th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    His velocity is a huge concern. Phil Hughes is throwing harder than he is now.

  1145. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    this is what I’m talking about on Hank’s Twitter: here’s his last post:

    Cash texted “wang looked solid tonight”. Intervention time. The little dork’s a sex addict. Where’d they send Duchovony? Anyone know?

  1146. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    I love how fast the game is going.

  1147. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Memo to the Yankees offense: Take a pitch. Oh, and the Nats’ starters are not THIS Good.

  1148. Brandon W June 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    As much as I would like Joba to be throwing 93-95 on all of his fastballs, I like how he is dialing it up for some pitches. He hit 96 in that last AB after being 91-92 on the first couple.

    If Joba were throwing 93-95, one FB hitting 96 wouldn’t be much different. As it is, it’s just another way of varying speed to throw off batters’ timing. It worked on that last one when he got the strikeout on the slider, clocked 10mph below the previous FB.

    Is this intentional? I don’t know. But as long as Joba trusts his stuff and the defense is behind him, there are worse ways he could go about things (like trying to overthrow and getting hurt).

  1149. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    # kaseya June 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    a five-pitch inning. seriously?

    thanks, guiseppe. your input is appreciated.

    pete didn’t actually question my loyalty until i knocked his best buddy wang, but your revisionist history is adorable.

    —————-

    It’s not revisionist history.

    Pete always asked why the hell you do what you do and still follow this team. It was almost a daily occurrence.

    Everybody was tired of you back then as well and you’d get up in arms about how you have the right to say whatever you want and pleaded with people not to read your posts if they don’t like what you have to say.

    Of course you have that right – but we have the same right to call you on such nonsense.

    The only difference between now and three years ago is the roster turnover and a different manager.

  1150. RS June 18th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    This game is shaping up just like yesterday. The Nats have one of the worst bullpens in baseball, but the Yankees won’t even get a chance to see that bullpen.

  1151. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    here’s another from 2 days ago from Hank! so funny

    Cash just texted me “There’s a new wang in the world!”. If he thought about the bullpen as much as he did about peckers we’d be in first!

  1152. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    this offense drives me to drink.

  1153. jerkface June 18th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Stammen is throwing fastballs at 90 mph right down the middle, what do you want the hitters to do ? Watch em?

  1154. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Cy Stammen? Yikes.

  1155. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Thanks, kaseya. :)

  1156. vin June 18th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    “so far gardner has the only two decent at-bats of the game. this team looks bad so far today.”

    Yikes, that’s never a good thing.

  1157. Clare June 18th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Thanks SJ.

  1158. Peter Abraham June 18th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Too bad our TOS doesn’t cover tedious and inane comments.

    Don’t feed the trolls, especially the ones who pretend they are fans.

  1159. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    oh boy, DUNN:(

  1160. Johnny D. June 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Fast game. Too bad the Nationals innings have been longer.

    Remember when I said the Yankees can’t play in bad weather? I honestly don’t think they’ll win this one.

  1161. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Carl
    June 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
    I love how fast the game is going.
    ***
    A little too fast. They are playing like the plane to Florida is leaving without them.

    Very cool they let the fans move down though

  1162. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Dutch Hugo,

    speaking of drinking: I’m pouring now!

  1163. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    ” what is this judging thing that people have mentioned my name for?”

    kangaroo court judge for the blog :)

  1164. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Nationals in business.

  1165. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    come on Jobber

  1166. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Move Joba to the pen. He sux.

  1167. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Joba nibbling again.

  1168. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    is the paint dry yet?

  1169. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Someone needs to donate some bifocals to Vanover.

  1170. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Cant see the game but a friend just called to scream that ESPN Gamecast doesn’t even have a file picture for Stammen.

    Staying positive!

  1171. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    hard to blame the hitters for swinging early – the home plate ump’s strike zone is about 30 inches wide.

  1172. DominicanYank June 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    The Yankees remind me of my son’s little league team, who ironically enough, are named the Yankees.

  1173. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    I’ll never understand why they continue to let Joba shake off every catcher on this roster to throw 3-2 sliders. Makes no sense because the book on him is he always throws that pitch in that situation and rarely locates it.

    He makes it too tough on himself at times.

  1174. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Nice K.

  1175. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    wait so Joba and Cervelli are not on the same page?

  1176. Yogi8 June 18th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Cano and Cabrera aren’t the same person? Fooled me.

  1177. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Those fans are so much better at the lower levels.

  1178. Peter Abraham June 18th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Moral high ground? I’m simply suggesting people don’t reply to trolls who pretend to be fans.

    Oh, rats, Joba just struck somebody out. Tough break for a big fan of the team like you.

  1179. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Walk to Willie Harris. Willie freakin Harris.

  1180. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    groan
    bases loaded

  1181. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    this ump is blind

  1182. RS June 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Is it just me or does the strike zone shrink every year?

  1183. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    I’ll donate some binoculars, screw the bifocals.

  1184. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Denise

    what are you drinking?

  1185. Brandon W June 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Is gameday being awful, or does this ump have a pretty inconsistent strike zone? I’ve seen a couple pitches show up on gameday as looking a little outside being called strikes, and a few down and in balls (like the third pitch to Harris) being called balls even though they look like strikes.

    No cable TV in my summer apartment, so I can’t actually watch the game to see how the pitches look.

  1186. miggs June 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    “A-Rod looks like a hitter that stopped taking steroids”

    This comment, while scary to comprehend, is actually a somewhat realistic possibility.

    He won’t hit .220 but you could be looking at .280 25 hr 90 rbis for the rest of that contract, probably less at the end. I hope not, but its very possible. $32 million is a lotof money for that production. Luckily his contract only runs until 2017.

  1187. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    One thing learned so far tonight…….Joba is a challenging guy to catch because he makes it tough on catchers.

    Even Cisco is experiencing what Posada and Molina experience in catching him.

  1188. migames June 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    i dont know whats more childish, a grown man whining all day about the yankees or a grown man picking stupid fight on his own blog?

  1189. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Why play with Wil Nieves?

  1190. JC in DC June 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Did Willie Harris just walk on 4 pitches???

  1191. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    oh my gosh! Phil Hughes, where are you??

  1192. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    This is inexcusable.

  1193. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Atrocious

  1194. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Joba is an ace…

    Pinstripes and pundits posture…

    Phenomenal woes…

  1195. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    “Is gameday being awful, or does this ump have a pretty inconsistent strike zone? ”

    ——————

    I haven’t seen every pitch but the ump has been a little inconsistent.

    Of course, Joba has been all over the place so he’s not exactly making it easy for him.

  1196. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    When you have a 96 mph fastball you don’t walk Wil Nieves on a slider.

    Terrible.

  1197. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    What the hell is wrong with Joba? how does he go up 1-2 and walk in a run?

    Pathetic.

  1198. RS June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Unbelievable. Joba throws way too many sliders and gets himself into bad counts.

  1199. Neil June 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    HHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH what a joke this is. Willie Harris and Wil Nieves walk. That is terrible.

  1200. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Yankees pitchers BEAT THEMSELVES.

    Do they realize they are facing light hitting scrubs? This is just ridiculous.

    I hope the Yankees hitters are watching. When you don’t swing at EVERYTHING, you SCORE. Funny how that works.

    Losing even one to this team was a disgrace. Losing two to them would be the most embarrassing set of games of probably the entire season, regardless of what they do from this point forward.

  1201. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    One thing I learned is Joba belongs in the Pen.

  1202. Mehdi also in SF wishing he was in Iran June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Sometimes we’re such a joke it’s unbelievable. But this joke is not funny. Not funny at all.

  1203. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    I once saw a poster that said “the common denominator in all your dysfunctional relationships is you”.

    There might actually be something in that. :)

  1204. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Joba needs a little bit of a talking to…not sure he learned anything from his last outing. He’s got the stuff – throw your fastball, Joba!

  1205. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Atrocious!

  1206. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    One thing learned so far tonight…….Joba is a challenging guy to catch because he makes it tough on catchers.

    Even Cisco is experiencing what Posada and Molina experience in catching him.

    ————-

    No, SJ. You have it wrong! It’s all Posada’s fault!!!!

    He’s the reason Yankee pitchers have trouble throwing strikes. It has nothing to do with the guys on the mound.

  1207. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    um, this up is either blind, drunk or both. He has missed two pitches right down the middle that I’ve seen.

  1208. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    “He won’t hit .220 but you could be looking at .280 25 hr 90 rbis for the rest of that contract”

    ————-

    .280 sure… but he’ll hit 35HR or more with or without PEDs.

  1209. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Joba walking the bottom of the Nationals lineup should get him a big penalty in kangaroo court.

  1210. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    He really needs to trust his fastball and stop screwing around with sliders when people like wil nieves are up at the frigging plate.

  1211. Greg NY June 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Joba blows, put him in the pen. It’s painful watching this guy start a game.

  1212. Rob Thompson June 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Come on Joba. I believe in you. Become the ace that we all know you are.

  1213. sar515 June 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    we waited 5 hours for this??

    C’mon yanks…this is a 9-5 win.

    Tex and Alex go yard.

  1214. terpbomber June 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Got a little hairy there.

  1215. RS June 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    “Is gameday being awful, or does this ump have a pretty inconsistent strike zone?”

    No, the ump has definitely been inconsistent.

  1216. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    You simply cannot walk Harris and Nieves back-to-back. That’s a killer. Joba’s simply too inconsistent.

  1217. DRC June 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    3 walks this inning. 3 walks and hit batsmen in last game? What is wrong with Joba? He does this one more time I’d put Hughes in the rotation and send his dumbass to AAA. Maybe that will wake him up!

  1218. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    10-71 Kearns, Willie Harris and Wil Nieves? Really?

  1219. Mehdi also in SF wishing he was in Iran June 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Matt it’s not all on our pitchers, our hitters have been embarrassingly bad this game.

  1220. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    He did it again! Shook off Cisco, actually stepped off, on the 2-2 pitch to Nieves to throw a slider. Missed as usual, blew his advantage, and ends up walking a .250 hitter with the bases loaded.

    Too much ego, not enough pitching smarts.

    Perhaps a month in Scranton will get his attention.

    Too many shakeoffs and it hurts him in every start.

  1221. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    you cant even make the argument for him in the 8th…hes got no control…you cant have your setup guy waking .200 hitters

  1222. Groundhoggator June 18th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Why is Joba screwing around… he walks Hall of Famers Harris and Nieves to double Nats lead….

    It doesn’t matter who’s catching or playing D when you issue free passes… c’mon the name of the game is efficency – pitch to contact and trust your stuff.

  1223. Brandon W June 18th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Despite the walks to pretty bad hitters, the one good thing I take away from this is that Joba is missing out of the zone and not over the plate. While it shows that either his control is off tonight or he is nibbling too much, I would rather he walk in a run than leave a meatball down the middle for a bases clearing hit.

    That inning could have been much more damaging than one run. Sure, that run shouldn’t have happened. I won’t argue that point. But you can still take away some positives from that inning.

  1224. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Terrible inning for Joba

    1-2 count on Dunn, ends up walking him

    1-2 count on Nieves, walks in a run

    Awful..

  1225. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    “Jim Leyland has benched Magglio Ordonez indefinitely.
    Leyland wants to get Ordonez “away from it.” The manager is clearly frustrated with the slugger’s play this season…He’s has just two home runs and owns a pedestrian .273/.347/.343 line”

    -rotoworld

  1226. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    You want someone who walks Wil Nieves and Willie Harris pitching with a one run lead in the 8th inning, be my guest.

  1227. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    This comment, while scary to comprehend, is actually a somewhat realistic possibility.
    He won’t hit .220 but you could be looking at .280 25 hr 90 rbis for the rest of that contract, probably less at the end. I hope not, but its very possible. $32 million is a lotof money for that production. Luckily his contract only runs until 2017.

    ******************************************

    Or it could be that his hips are not 100% yet.

  1228. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Why the heck does Stammen get that call? Nieves had to reach across the zone to catch it, plus it was inside. Cervelli does the same thing for a better pitch and it’s a ball.

  1229. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    IMHO – Joba doesn’t trust his fastball. Maybe because it’s now hittable.

    30 pitches in first 3 innings. 32 pitches in 4th.

    Time for the bats to wake up.

  1230. Todd June 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    If they lose 2 of 3 at home vs Nats, does Girardi get fired????????????????????????????????????

  1231. RS June 18th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    So far the Nats have a 3.00 ERA against us. This might just be the best stretch of games, pitching-wise, that they’ve had all season.

  1232. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    what is going on here? really? this is ludicrous! finally one hit TEX!!

  1233. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Oh look! A base hit!

  1234. pat June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    miggs

    I asked this question of someone else who said that. If he took them last year and didn’t get caught, why wouldn’t he take them this year?

  1235. Rick June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Joba was better in the bullpen where all he had to do was throw hard….

  1236. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Come one Alex.

  1237. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    “hard to blame the hitters for swinging early – the home plate ump’s strike zone is about 30 inches wide.”

    I can’t watch the game, only seeing the MLB highlights, and I’ve seen the ump call two perfect strikes by Joba balls. If it’s true this clown is expanding the zone on the Yanks, Joe needs to get out there and get tossed. He needs to get his money’s worth. Not absolving Joba, but come one. How does an ump getting paid to do this job screw up this badly?

  1238. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Nice first pitch out from A-Rod.

  1239. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    “You want someone who walks Wil Nieves and Willie Harris pitching with a one run lead in the 8th inning, be my guest.”

    ———-

    you mean Joba’s control doesn’t magically appear if he’s in the pen?

  1240. EY June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    I am not sure what’s worse tonight. Walking Nieves to force in a run or being 1-hit by Stammen

    OK, 2-hit now.

  1241. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Man he got under that.

  1242. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    I thought that Posada was the problem when actually, it’s Joba.

  1243. JC in DC June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Thank you Yankees. I live near D.C. and I swear that today is John Lannan Day. They’re even interviewing his H.S. coach via phone right now during the game on MASN. Let’s make today Craig Stammen Day!

  1244. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    “you mean Joba’s control doesn’t magically appear if he’s in the pen?”

    He also doesn’t magically stop shaking off the catcher to throw ill-advised sliders…

  1245. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    i dont knw what to think right now…this is just bad baseball…i am very sad..

  1246. Giuseppe Franco June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Todd June 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    If they lose 2 of 3 at home vs Nats, does Girardi get fired????????????????????????????????????

    ————-

    Um, yeah. They already have a press conference scheduled for tomorrow at noon.

    Girardi is going to get fired and replaced by Stump Merrill.

  1247. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    These idiot hitters just don’t get it.

    WHEN YOU SWING AT EVERYTHING, YOU WON’T HIT THE PITCHER.

    It’s common sense. You’ve never seen the guy, so take some pitches and see what he has, then when you know what he has, hit him.

    The guy is falling behind on the hitters who will let him, but nobody will take a freaking pitch. The Nationals have NO BULLPEN, yet our hitters REFUSE to make the starter work! It’s un-freaking-believable.

    Lannan was good last night, but he pitched into the NINTH. If these guys took a freaking pitch, the Nats would have to go to the pen and we’d blow them out every time.

  1248. Melissa June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Anybody else watching on MASN in the D.C. area?? these announcers are OBSESSED with john lannan. I mean, I get it… but he’s not ACTUALLY pitching right now. have heard barely 3 words about Stammen, and right now they’re interviewing Lannan’s high school baseball coach!

  1249. Doris from Rego Park June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Who is more nervous right now- Eisland or Long?

  1250. boobie June 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Didn’t A-rod just have a day off? Just because they don’t play the game doesn’t mean they didn’t have that day off.

  1251. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Matt

    Why are you telling us? Email cash.

  1252. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    I’d find it easier to consider that it might be a “realistic possibility” if he hadn’t had hip surgery, Pat.

  1253. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    SJ44,

    how can Joba be shaking off still? Didn’t Eiland and Girardi sit him down after his last start about this very issue? who does he think he is? really!

  1254. Lou in SoCal June 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Wow didn’t know Cy Young was pitching for the Nationals? Great AB by A-Poop.

  1255. Lou in SoCal June 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Wow didn’t know Cy Young was pitching for the Nationals? Great AB by A-Poop.

  1256. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    For the Joba to the bullpen crowd…..

    You don’t put a guy in the bullpen who can’t throw strikes. That’s not the answer.

    The answer is, you tell him to either stop shaking off the catchers or he can shake off Kevin Cash in Scranton. That will get his attention.

  1257. Wes June 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Didn’t Joba say he has to try not to think too much? So stop thinking so much and listen to your catcher instead of shaking off.

  1258. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    More offensive ineptitude.

  1259. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    3-1 pitch, Cano chases a pitch out of the zone.

    Does this team even have an approach at the plate? They look like they’re all just hacking at whatever crap the worst pitching staff in all of baseball decides to toss their way.

  1260. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    I can’t believe I waited five-and-a-half hours for this.

    Pretty piss poor job by the Yanks thus far.

  1261. RS June 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Why can’t our hitters hit the Nationals??

  1262. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Dutch Hugo –

    Vanover has been stingy on “north/south” pitches. “East/West” has been another story.

    If a catcher sets up on the outside, and the pitcher comes close to the glove – it’s been a strike.

  1263. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Memo to Joba:

    More fastballs, less sliders.

    The end.

  1264. terpbomber June 18th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    They’re giving the Nats too many easy innings.

  1265. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Melissa,

    yeap I am..and yeah, but who cares really, Lannan deserves it all and the story is bigger b/c he’s a local NY kid and grew up loving the Yanks.

    The game is a yawner, so it’s something good for any Nats fans that remain, to watch!

  1266. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Teixeira, timing…

    Reaching a familiar first…

    Left on by Cano…

  1267. yankeenate June 18th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Quality AB’s by the #4 and #5 hitters. Swinging at ball 4 on a 3-1 count. This is really beginning to get frustrating.

  1268. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    joba has pitched bad but the story of this game is the offense…im usually not that mad but this is bad…yesterday was one thing..lannan pitched great but this dude today has 0 ml wins…joba needs to shut the door and they need to pound the nats into submission!! and you dont do that by hacking at every pitch

  1269. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 18th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    He’s overthinking out there. Trying to call his own game as well as executing the pitches.

    He’s not as good at multitasking as he thinks he is, possibly.

  1270. boobie June 18th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    They take pitches they end up in crappy hitter counts cause these pitchers know the yanks take pitches to make pitchers work. So they go in thinking they have to throw strikes.

    Flip side

    They swing at the first pitch thinking it will be a easy get ahead fastball and right now anyway they aren’t doing anything with it. Cano was 4-4 the other night on a combined 8 pitches. That’s not a coincidence.

  1271. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    let’s get some things straight einsteins, posada is not catching tonight so far all the morons who think Joba’s issues are because of the catcher get a brain..

    multi slides to the power hitting nieves is a real ivy league move..

    joba is a friggin moron, throw gas in the strike zone moron…………

    and as far as the offense this is the worst pitching staff in baseball, wake up losers…arod should be moved down if they had anyone else who could hit 4th which they do not have.
    \
    the great yankee staff is 27th worst in baseball, as i have said a million times they walk to many batters..

    sounds like a real masterpiece there tonight………

  1272. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    let’s get some things straight einsteins, posada is not catching tonight so far all the morons who think Joba’s issues are because of the catcher get a brain..

    multi slides to the power hitting nieves is a real ivy league move..

    joba is a friggin moron, throw gas in the strike zone moron…………

    and as far as the offense this is the worst pitching staff in baseball, wake up losers…arod should be moved down if they had anyone else who could hit 4th which they do not have.
    \
    the great yankee staff is 27th worst in baseball, as i have said a million times they walk to many batters..

    sounds like a real masterpiece there tonight………

  1273. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Again, none of what Joba is doing right now would matter if we could SCORE RUNS.

    2-3 runs, I’d take that any night. How about we score more than 0 or 2 against the WORST PITCHING IN ALL OF BASEBALL?

  1274. GaryM(Yanks and More) June 18th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    I don’t care what anyone say’s KEVIN LONG IS TERRIBLE AND MUST GET FIRED, the nationals are the worst pitching team in baseball and we can’t touch them, this is a disgrace,embarrassment I bet the Bosox will pound them.

  1275. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    When I was playing back in 1949, no rookie would shake off a veteran catcher like Joba.

  1276. Baseball Fab June 18th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    I looked quickly thought Guzman was Ortiz

  1277. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    “The answer is, you tell him to either stop shaking off the catchers or he can shake off Kevin Cash in Scranton. That will get his attention.”

    lol

  1278. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    i see yankees are making another 0-the world 6 era pitcher look like another cy young. wish i was honestly surprised to see the score in the 4th.

  1279. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Guzman has more hits than our whole team. You can’t make this stuff up.

  1280. joeman June 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Joba belongs in the pen,I’m beginning to think given a chance Hughes might be a better starter…go ahead jump down my throat

  1281. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Joba is at 62 pitch count! seems like way more

  1282. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    guzman 3 for 3.. our offense is on vacation, pathetic..

    again joba is a jerk moron, give me the young crap, he has no idea how to pitch and therefore he should listen to whomever his catcher is….

    clueless..

    now on the radio the no see the pitcher bs excuse, it is laughable.. how about take 2 or 3 pitches, so they get down in the count is that a problem???

    joba doing his magic as i type…………

  1283. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    When I was playing back in 1949, no rookie would shake off a veteran catcher like Joba.

    ==========================

    :lol:

  1284. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    See, the OPPC calls the reality seers, ledge jumpers.

    Simply, the New York Yankees have a good team. It could be better, but it is constructed to win as it is. No trade we make is going to matter. Our team is always the same. INCONSISTENT.

    We have the ability to be great, like we might be in the last 5 innings of this game… But we also have the ability to throw away games and play like a bunch of impotents, like through the first 4 innings of this game.

  1285. Voice of Reason June 18th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Keep in mind with Jobba the apple doesnt fall too far from the tree… I am not surprised at all this guy can’t be coached

  1286. Whitney June 18th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Catch the end of Aliens on AMC, no reason to watch this mess…they mailed this in via Fed Ex in a big envelope around 6:30pm…nice game Yanks!

  1287. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Even the Nats can move a runner from 2nd to 3rd with the first out.

  1288. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    I know Joba isn’t a rookie, but you know what I mean.

  1289. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    To even have to pull the infield in ONCE in a series against the Nationals is just disgraceful. How many times have we done it in this series?

  1290. boobie June 18th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    “I don’t care what anyone say’s KEVIN LONG IS TERRIBLE AND MUST GET FIRED, the nationals are the worst pitching team in baseball and we can’t touch them, this is a disgrace,embarrassment I bet the Bosox will pound them.”

    I don’t disagree. But the yanks did just spank one of the best pitchers in all of baseball to a tune of 3 ip and 9 ER. If we give credit to the yank batters and not Long in that case, then we need to blame the yank batters as well as Long in this case as well.

  1291. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    matt keep on doing your rationalization on joba..

    he walked the likes of willie harris and nieves last inning..

    so keep fooling yourself that is UNACCEPTABLE…………

  1292. Rose June 18th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    SJ44

    Can’t Girardi talk to Joba about shaking off his catchers?

  1293. Lou in SoCal June 18th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Post game quote, “You just have to tip your hat. They out played us tonight. What can you say? They are the worst team in baseball, but they play the game the way it should be played”.

  1294. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    DT – well I saw two fastballs down the middle, above the knees, he called both balls.

    I hope our “hitters” are getting booed. They are beyond pathetic. Why does this team do this day in and day out? About a week ago, Girardi was asked about the inability to hit pitchers they’d never seen, and he (and Damon) admitted it was a problem. Girardi said if he knew how to fix it he would. He also said that some of his guys wanted to know what the pitcher threw, while others didn’t, they just wanted to go up there, see the pitch and react to it. Which seems like he was saying some of them doin’t watch video? Then he went on to say that he would never ask the players to change their approach. I think someone needs to ask him if he meant that some of his guys aren’t watching video, because if that’s true, and he’s not standing up and saying “Hey, what you’re doing isn’t working. Change it.” ???

  1295. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    McCarron: “over walkinization in baseball” he meant hitters but works for Yanks pitchers too.

    oh boy.

  1296. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Nationals kicking the Yankees around.

  1297. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Maybe for the rest of this game, our hitters can realize that it takes 3 strikes to make an out and try to utilize each at bat fully. Apparently, the worst team in baseball, and the worst player in baseball, wil nieves, understood this.

  1298. Neil June 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Ryan Zimmerman > New York Yankees

  1299. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    why in the world would Papellbon say this in public while still in a Sox uniform?

    http://tinyurl.com/nfnnxm

  1300. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    groan
    3-0 Nats

  1301. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Not looking good for the Yankees right now

    Winning 2 out of 3 is barely acceptable.

    Losing 2 out of 3 is nearly disastrous

  1302. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Wish our 3B could hit like Zimmerman, what a disgrace this is.

  1303. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    3 ZIP TO THE WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL BY FAR…

    people waited 5 hours for this slop.

    anyway you slice it this is slop…………

    chamberlain is a mental midget, there offense only hit’s hr’s and they suck………….

  1304. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    What a shocker. The whole world is sitting on Joba’s slider because he’s an idiot and doesn’t get that you can’t rely on your breaking ball to get outs to EVERY batter.

    He GIVES Nick Johnson the pitch he wants to pull the ball and get the runner to third when anyone with a brain would have thrown a fastball up and away, and then he hangs a slider to Zimmerman when he needs to get a ground ball, when anyone in their right mind would throw a hard fastball inside.

    I don’t care if Joba shakes the catcher off all day. Keep putting down the same sign until he gets that he’s wrong.

  1305. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Frigging pathetic! Have teh Nats won a road series all year? Well, they’re about to. They found the perfect opponent.

  1306. joeman June 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    talk to some friends that went to school with him at Neb, he never relaxed on the mound

  1307. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    When the Boss was The Boss…a series like this would get Girardi fired.

    This team has been flat since the start of the Sox series minus the Johan game.

  1308. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    I’m still confused with the 86 mph slider. It’s not working. Why is he laboring?

  1309. RS June 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    This team is a JOKE. They can’t compete against the Phillies and Red Sox and they don’t bother to get up for the Nationals.

  1310. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Just got it in. I see Joba is up to his usual tactics…and on his way to his 20th no decision of the season.

  1311. Terry from NH June 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    This is a disgrace to Yankee fans seeing this team lay down against the Nats.. I may not leave my house for fear of Sox fans waiting to verbally assault me if the Yanks lose this series.. Joba and the offense are pretty pathetic at this point.

  1312. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Joba in the pen-

    -dulum swinging back and forth…

    What will baseball gods…?

  1313. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Can we stop blaming Posada for Joba’s woes now?

  1314. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    “why in the world would Papellbon say this in public while still in a Sox uniform?”

    ———-

    Papelbon cares about Papelbon. He wants to get paid and he wants leverage.

    I agree, he should prob keep his mouth shut for a while, but he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  1315. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    enough is enough meat head belongs in the pen

  1316. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Jeez Joba. Keep it at 3.

  1317. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Oh the slider is killing me. Can someone explain it to me?

  1318. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Another bad slider in the middle of the plate to Zimmerman.

    Too slider happy and it’s killing him.

    Time to take him out and go to Aceves. We’ve seen enough tonight.

  1319. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    More walks.

  1320. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    and the problem with the hitting is inconsistency. Some games we work counts, others we just swing at 1st pitches.

    Just because we scored 9 off Johan, maybe we just guessed righon pitches.

    Instead of trying to work at bats every game, and also changing our approach from guessing pitches to see the ball, take the ball, or see the ball, hit the ball.

  1321. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Jobas afraid of getting hurt again. Phil > Joba.

  1322. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    he is beginning to be too predictable. How many times are you going to throw a 3-2 slider.

  1323. Eric June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    WHY is Joba throwing 3-2 sliders to Dunn out of the zone??? He is NOT going to chase!! That’s twice… completely unacceptable!

  1324. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    no where are all the experts who think Joba’s stupidity is because of Posada……..

    where are all the experts????????

    Joba is a MORON, certified… He needs to be told what to throw, how complicated is that???????????

  1325. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    no where are all the experts who think Joba’s stupidity is because of Posada……..

    where are all the experts????????

    Joba is a MORON, certified… He needs to be told what to throw, how complicated is that???????????

  1326. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    I still believe the Yankees will win this game. I really do.

    That said, it still makes me sick seeing this crap that the Yankees are putting out there.

    They are playing their worst ball of the season at a point when they should be getting better.

  1327. SCRANTON June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    I think I would rather Kei Igawa on the mound right now.

  1328. Voice of Reason June 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    You can tell from Jobba’s body language he has no interest playing today. Just watch him. The *only* positive to come out of this debacle is that it will take some heat off of Posada

  1329. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    This is a horrible game. And I haven’t even seen a lot of it.

    randy l -

    Kangaroo Court? I’ll take a Pettitte. I’m not funny enough. :)

    Joba, Joba, Joba.

    So much talent, so little what????

    This is not the Joba from pre-injury last season. It is not.

    Is he afraid to air it out? Or is there something physically wrong?

    And where is his control? He was supposed to be able to throw his pitches with control.

    Maybe SWB is not a far-fetched idea. In a way, Joba was rushed to the big time. He’s been developing as a starter “on the job.”

    He’s a really good pitcher, don’t get me wrong. But you keep waiting, and waiting and waiting and every once in a while you get a glimpse. But not enough.

  1330. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Keep in mind that this is a team that could very well challenge the 1962 Mets for the most losses in a single season.

    There are no positives from these games. There are no ways to sugar coat this. It’s pitiful and embarrassing. And even if your starter pitches well, it’s the freaking Nationals. If you can’t win the games, there are no positives in this kind of series.

  1331. pat June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    “Have teh Nats won a road series all year?”

    One- Arizona

  1332. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Angel Berroa
    June 18th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
    Can we stop blaming Posada for Joba’s woes now?

    Yes.
    Now the AJ myth should be debunked.

  1333. DD June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Fat Toad ? trade him for Santana !

  1334. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Dunn with the 400 OBP is not Cano, maybe Joba did not read the stat lines..

    he is clueless like most posters here….

  1335. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Michael Kay is absolutely right. Joba has had his regular velocity in one start this year. Ever since he was injured last year he’s had a huge dip in velo

    It’s very possible that he has lingering damage in his shoulder.

  1336. ray (sox fan) June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Lester isn’t sharp early. Marlins have hit two home runs and lead Sox 2-1 top of the second.

  1337. mmx June 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Yankees hitters are really pathetic. It’s been years that every pitcher sporting a high ERA always pitches like CY.

  1338. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    6-1 Kei Igawa!!! I loved playing with him when I was in Scranton earlier this year.

  1339. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Eiland needs to go.

  1340. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    you cant give a guy 32 starts if he cant get throw more than 5 innings.

  1341. Wow. June 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Kaseya – how about this? I’ll explain it to you. Shut up! Just shut up! Watch the game, get over yourself and shut up!

  1342. Lou in SoCal June 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    I hope we don’t face the Nationals in the World Series. Oh what am I thinking we aren’t going too the Fall Classic.

  1343. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    5 strike outs and 4 walks another gem from joba.. he refuses to throw strikes consistently..

    pathetic…

  1344. BillP June 18th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    I am so sick of watching every pitcher on this staff nibble. They didn’t do this 2 years ago when Guidry was pitching coach. Joba, Hughes, Kennedy…all of them were aggressive in the strike zone. Eiland gets there and all they do is nibble. Maybe it has something to do with Guidry being a stud pitcher and trusting his stuff and passing that on to his pitchers and Eiland not having anything to get major league hitters out when he pitched.

    And does anyone have any idea why Chamberlain can’t get past 95 mph anymore. Pacing himself or not able to after shoulder injury last year. Any thoughts?

  1345. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    87 pitches for Jobber
    Time for the bats to cut the crap

  1346. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Where is his velocity? And if he hasn’t been the same since the shoulder injury wouldn’t that mean his shoulder isn’t %100?
    Right now Hughes is consistently throwing harder then him. Who would of thunk when they where once prospects Hughes would have the better FB?

  1347. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    AJ is delusional, ever since he told the media he has shown glimpses of greaness as a Yankee, I knew he was nuts

  1348. joeman June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    time to go out and get a vet SP who can throw strikes and get innings…put Joba in the pen and keep Hughes there…BTW, go get H Street

  1349. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Pundits pondering…

    Starts, saves, superposition…

    Schröedinger’s Joba…

  1350. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    greatness*

  1351. TKinDC June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Ummmmm – - – offense?

  1352. Wang IS Taiwan June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    I’m afraid Joba think his slider is god.

  1353. Rose June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Too many walks to guys that can’t hit.

  1354. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    3 runs look like Mt. McKinley right now. This team is simply not that good enough. Period. I’m sure I’ll hear excuses, but the performance lately is just piss poor.

  1355. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Tonight though should end the “Its Posada’s fault” nonsense.

    Some guys are just very difficult to catch.

    The Yankees have two of those guys… AJ and Joba.

    Never easy games for catchers when those guys take the mound.

  1356. Bx is burning June 18th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Kay just said it was the “avant garde, chic thing to do” (to dump on Posada).

    Somebody should tell him to lay off the French, at least until he hits Berlitz.

  1357. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    voice of reason started to make a smart comment but then he had to throw in the body language nonsense.

    you cannot read peoples minds or body language so cut the gritty gutty bull..

    it is true maybe a few more einsteins will understand joba’s problems are his not the catchers…..

  1358. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Has he thrown changeups and curves? Or just fastballs and sliders?

    And the offense really, really needs to get it together here. ARod is not a force right now, and his contribution to the lineup by simply being there is wearing thin. When he first got back, opposing teams were a little leary, but by now they now he’s having a slow go of it.

    I hope Jeter’s ankle heals, but I hope they give him time. I stepped off a treadmill the wrong way about 3 months ago, maybe 4 and my ankle stlll hurts. I try to ignore it. Not comparing myself to Jeter (ha! ha!), but I think they should keep him out awhile. So, that means we’re looking at a B-plus lineup here.

  1359. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    “Can we stop blaming Posada for Joba’s woes now?”

    I will say yes but I still think Posada is a terrible catcher.

  1360. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    I like Swisher less and less every day.

  1361. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    He is so slow!!!!!

  1362. pat June 18th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Kearns got too good of a bounce to try and stretch that.

  1363. Olan June 18th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    so up to this point Joba pitched an equivalent of Wang’s last night outing, so how come nobody is yelling dump Joba and put Hughes in the rotation yet????

  1364. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Swisher is awesome man. At least he listens to cool music.

  1365. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    He was out from the time he stepped on first base.

  1366. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Yankees hitters in June:

    Posada- .227
    Melky- .192
    Damon- .222
    A-Rod- .151
    Matsui- .190

    It’s not our pitching.. That’s 5/9 of the lineup.

    And brilliant play by Swisher getting thrown out at 2nd base leading off an inning down 3 runs. These players just have absolutely no baseball sense, especially Nick Swisher who has made mental mistakes nearly every night and wasn’t busting it out of the box.

  1367. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    oh Swish, who do you think you are? Brett Gardner?? lol

  1368. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    this is the BS THAT I’m talking about. the only time the yankees get a runner on and he’s tagged out. And who gets tagged out.. SWISHER!!!!!!

  1369. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Posada is still a terrible catcher.

  1370. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    3 runs down and another horrible baserunning decision by Swisher.

    A week of nothing but mistakes on the bases for Nick.

  1371. yankeenate June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    I like Swisher and all…but he does some bonehead stuff

  1372. terpbomber June 18th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Swish got a little too greedy. Why risk it? Didn’t he check the scouting reports? :/

  1373. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Man. All right.

    So Swish hit the ball too hard and it was fielded very cleanly. But – he’s done this before. He’s too slow to be safe on that hit.

  1374. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Some say I’m terrible at 3B but even I should hit instead of A-Rod

  1375. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Swing at garbage out of the zone, stand there and take pitches right down the middle.

    What an offensive approach.

  1376. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    swisher with 3 moronic baserunning mistakes in less then 2 weeks.

    who is dumber him or chamberlain?

    swisher needs to get a clue……………..

  1377. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    swisher with 3 moronic baserunning mistakes in less then 2 weeks.

    who is dumber him or chamberlain?

    swisher needs to get a clue……………..

  1378. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    could have been 2 on and 1 out..

  1379. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    “Swisher is awesome man. At least he listens to cool music.”

    That made me laugh. Thanks for that.

  1380. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Nick Swisher, swinging…

    Swatted by a Senator…

    Stretching for second…

  1381. joeman June 18th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    when they are losing they suck when they are winning they are great….

  1382. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    did the Nats pitchers just really get pumped to play us in Yankee Stadium or are we just looking like a bunch of overpaid fools?

  1383. SCRANTON June 18th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    KEI IGAWA! KEI IGAWA! KEI IGAWA!

  1384. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    The whole offense has been asleep in the series.

  1385. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    no, swisher needs to get a new address.

  1386. Johan Halladay - When OPPC comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it June 18th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Don’t give up you guys. We almost tied the game yesterday and we’re only down three runs so far tonight.

    CC, Wang, and now Joba all got outpitched but we can’t help it if Washington keeps throwing out ace, after ace, after ace.

    We almost stole one from the Nationals yesterday and we’ll try again tonight. The Nationals are the real deal and we should be glad we barely took Tuesday’s game.

    Even though we’re down tonight, we have the clutch hitting and pitching to beat even the great teams like Washington.

  1387. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    It’s official

  1388. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Stammen will go 8 scoreless without breaking a sweat . . . and no one knows who he is.

  1389. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    We better hope it doesn’t rain again and it’s called off giving the Nats a win, well not like we can hit or pitch or run or field. I swear Scranton Wilkes-Barre could beat the Nats.

  1390. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    ABSOLUTELY USELESS.

    3-1 count, how about you hit the ball hard?

    Swisher’s bone headed baserunning play and overaggressive at bats, AGAIN, kill any chance of scoring.

    This is the Washington Nationals, and a no name rookie who barely throws 90 and has 0 career MLB wins. ZERO CAREER WINS.

    Absolutely no excuses. They only have to look in the mirror to see what their problems are.

  1391. BillP June 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    I’ve been watching this crap with this team not being able to hit pitchers they’ve never faced for 15-20 years. Doesn’t seem to matter who’s on this team, they simply don’t hit pitchers they’ve never seen.

  1392. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    I am tired of being positive!

  1393. joeman June 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    trade Swisher even up for Holiday

  1394. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    “The Nationals are the real deal and we should be glad we barely took Tuesday’s game.”

    John, they are? They’re the worst team in baseball.

  1395. SCRANTON June 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Its Austin Jackson time. Put Swisher on the bench where he belongs.

  1396. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Hrs not a terrible catcher. You folks don’t have any idea what makes a catcher terrible.

  1397. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    this is painful to watch, thank god the Cab is tasting good!

  1398. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Mlbtv cuts to commercial during the middle of a pitch.

  1399. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    last year we couldn’t beat bad teams and didn’t make play offs.looks like more of the same this year. fire joe now.

  1400. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    4 innings to go… still time for the bats to wake up.

    It hasn’t been pretty, but the Yankee top of the order can do it in the 6th.

  1401. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Hey -

    At least we know we’re all not crazy for saying the Yankees at least appear to have trouble against pitchers they haven’t seen. Based on that last little dialogue between Flash and Kay, it’s something Girardi is trying to address. Validation.

  1402. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    “or are we just looking like a bunch of overpaid fools?”

    Denise, you put this on the tee for yourself, it’s so easy!

  1403. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Oh, shut up Michael Kay. What kind of excuse is that? The Nationals pitcher has thrown 5 shutout innings against what supposedly is a much better lineup.

  1404. Rick June 18th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    This team is pathetic…..they are a bunch of underachieving bums

  1405. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    I think everyone in the park knew he was going to throw a slider. on that 1-2 count

  1406. joeman June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    trade Swisher for Holiday…Oak makes this trade….Swish & Giambi belong together

  1407. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Anyone notice that ever since Pappi went to see that eye doctor…wink-wink…he has been tearing the cover off the ball…some eye drops.

  1408. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Joba is a shake off machine

  1409. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    swisher does not read the scouting reports that is to corporate for him. chamberlain the same, he knows more then the 37 yr old posada. another 6 inning outing at best by the great joba…

    how cn this team continue to have such a crappy pitching staff… they are top of the league in strikeouts and also near the top in walks given…..

    this game is one of the ugliest of the season….makes the cano dp hurt that much more or the day off against nieve the other day…do these clowns think they can jsut turn it on? they better be right else it will be another long season……………………………

    martis, lannan, and stammen man thye must be studs to stop this lineup……..

    oh my god 97 pitches for queen chamberlain….wow wee……..

  1410. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    every team that comes in seem to say you guys are nothing. this is also joe’s fault. fire joe now

  1411. brad June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    according to gameday this ump is screwing joba of a bunch of strikes, costing him some walks

  1412. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    He’s really in love with his slider.

  1413. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    What does it matter if Joba went 6 IP 3 ER or 7 IP 1 ER 15K if our offense scores ZERO?

  1414. BillP June 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    If you think Michael Kay is bad, I live down here in Pennsylvania and have to watch the Nationals feed with the unlistenable Rob Dibble. Never heard anyone whine as much as him about ball and strike calls

  1415. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Sullen skies scheming…

    Officially, Nationals…

    Tread on sodden ground…

  1416. Uncle Ellsworth (Expert texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you?) June 18th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Doreen – Been to the New Stadium
    June 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
    I am tired of being positive!

    I’m losing patience too….must resist

    BTW Nice pics

  1417. ZMAN7777 June 18th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    John Stammen is actually part of the witness protection program. His real name is Fred Arbuckle, and he was a quality inspector in the Spokane region.

  1418. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Great work joba, you kept us in the game.

  1419. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Look, it’s not a stellar performance by Joba, but he needs to do better.

    The offense is the problem. 3 runs in six innings is “okay.” But they’ve got to get their mojo going.

  1420. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Matt it doesn’t. Maybe the Yankees should try to sign another big hitting free agent this off season. We’ve seen how it’s worked since 2001.

  1421. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    “If you think Michael Kay is bad, I live down here in Pennsylvania and have to watch the Nationals feed with the unlistenable Rob Dibble. Never heard anyone whine as much as him about ball and strike calls”

    Same thing with the announcers in Tampa.

  1422. RS June 18th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Joba did his job tonight. 6 ip, 3 ER against a team with a good offense but terrible pitching and defense should translate to a win.

    The offense is just disgraceful. When was the last time they strung together 2 hits in a row?

  1423. Erik Sec. 309 June 18th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    What’s worse….0-8 versus the Sox or very possibly losing 2 out of the 3 to the Nats?

  1424. J-Boogie June 18th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Dorren – we’re definitely not crazy. They do struggle against these types of guys. I saw a stat floating around this blog yesterday that the Yanks are 10-4 against pitchers they haven’t faced. I did some research, found 12 games and they’re 8-4. However, 5 of those wins game off the opposing pen. As a team they’re hitting .248 against those 12 games. They rocked Rick Porcello and Scott Richmond. Toss those 2 games out and they hit .222. They hit under 200 in 5 of the 12 games and under 250 in 8 of them. I blogged about yesterday. If anyone is interested in more detail, feel free to check out the post.

    http://boogiedownbaseball.blog.....yanks.html

  1425. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    agree with you Jones, I live in MD… the MASN announcers for the nats cud be the worst in sports

  1426. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    sorry billp but eck on nesn is the biggest jerk on the tube. he talks about himself all the time.

  1427. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 18th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    “The offense is just disgraceful. When was the last time they strung together 2 hits in a row?”

    last inning – Swish and Matsui.

  1428. SCRANTON June 18th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    The Yankees only suck against the pitches that say “No Photo” on Game Cast.

  1429. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    RS you are delusional. the yanks are 2nd in runs scored 27 in preventing runs there issues are all on the mound regardless of what is going on tonight on the mound.

    great damon with another broken bat, he refuses to do something about that..

    sterling is just terrible, stammen 2 hitter.. i guess he forgot the other 2 hits last inning…….

  1430. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Im losin my mind… this team sux

  1431. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    This is frustrating

  1432. Lou in SoCal June 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Let’s be honest it’s hard to hit someone who throws stikes

  1433. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Come on Yanks. Pretend you’re the Red Sox or some other team.

  1434. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    It’s about time that the Yanks step on Chamberlain’s neck and deals an ultimatum. Either take the instructions from whatever catcher the NYY have out there or take your instructions from Kevin Cash and Chris Stewart in Scranton. I have no issues with the first and fifth inning runs. I have issues with walking the last three batters in the fourth inning. This is the second time in 2 weeks he’s done that.

  1435. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    SMH @ this offense.

  1436. Brian June 18th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    It is pathetic if they drop 2 out of 3 to this team. Have they even won a series yet this year? I dont care if its a rookie pitcher, it is no excuse. You’re always gonna have to face pitchers you have never seen.

  1437. BillP June 18th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Didn’t even know Eck was on NESN. Thought the awful Jerry Remy was still on there. But if Eck is on there, I can believe he’s the biggest jerk.

  1438. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Wasn’t it Joba who was the last Yankee pitcher who had to sit out a long rain delay and then couldn’t do his simiulated first inning in the pen then had a bad outing? Does anyone know if he had his simulated inning today? Is it possible that the rain delay caused problems with his pitching?

  1439. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    I know the lineup is all slumping at once, but against the Nationals? Can they possibly play any worse? Bad baserunning mistakes, poor pitching, lousy hitting……..embarrassing.

  1440. Drive 4-5 June 18th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Joba is a smart kid. He’s figured out that if he pitches like crap for 5 innings he’ll still get to appear in 30 games and be under his innings limitations.

  1441. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Erik Sec. 309,

    I’d say losing 8 games in a row to the Red Sox is worse just because of their fans.

  1442. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    now miss chamberlain is done because he hit the magic # of 100.

  1443. SJ44 June 18th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    11 baserunners, including walking in a run, against the worst team in Baseball is not “doing your job”.

    The offense has been awful and Joba wasn’t much better.

  1444. Lou in SoCal June 18th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Last time Nationals won a series May 9th. Last time Yankees lost to a Rookie pitcher? Last Night.

  1445. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    The Nats are reminding me of a pet snake I once had.

    They only need to eat about once a month but when it’s feeding time…. watch out!

  1446. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Oh yeah, since Joba went six innings, we can blame Posada again.

  1447. rconn23 June 18th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    June 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
    “Posada is still a terrible catcher.”

    And obviously you’re still a moron.

  1448. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    this is awful, I think I’ll watch porn now:)

  1449. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    thank god for that 9 game winning streak or we would be in last place. and half of them we were lucky in. fire joe now

  1450. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Just looking at the players, they look like they’re disinterested in this game. No deep counts, foul off pitches, nothing.
    Worst team in baseball maybe they’re just overlooking the Nats.

  1451. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    the thing I like mostly about this game is the tough AB’s the yanks are putting on a guy who throws 89mph max

    11 baserunners in 6 innings for the great joba including walks to willie harris and nieves..

    damon refuses to get new bats, swisher refuses to think on the bases, joba refuses to listen to his catcher, cano refuses to take pitches and realize he can get the bat on the ball even with 2 strikes, what a crew..

  1452. Aura June 18th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    If the Yankees were hitting these schmucks the way they should be then Joba maybe pitches with a little more aggressiveness. He was nibbling all game. Kay had it right though – where did 98 go?

  1453. Wangawa June 18th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Did we forget how to hit or something?

    Did Joba forget how to throw in the high 90s?

  1454. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    BTW, I should of put a “lol” at the end of that statement.

  1455. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Here’s a guy that Chamberlain and Burnett could learn a few things on the art of pitching. Aceves has half of the “stuff” with twice the results. I said “stuff” not talent. Aceves has a ton of talent.

  1456. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    i miss george steinbrenner

  1457. randy l. June 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    “Thought the awful Jerry Remy was still on there. ”

    he’s on a leave of absence to recover from lung cancer surgery

  1458. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    is it 7th inning yet? lol

  1459. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    I’m glad to see that Joba isn’t put up on a pedestal here. In so many other places, Joba is basically a god and you can’t criticize him. I think he’s absolutely a good kid at heart and he’s so talented, but like anyone else, he’s not perfect…….and he does have some growing up to do. That same cocky swagger that fans love about him is also what makes other teams dislike him – he’s been up for about a minute and he acts like he’s in the HOF already. Newsflash for Joba – he doesn’t know everything. I don’t know if sending him to AAA is the answer, but I find it interesting that Joba’s spot in the rotation is absolutely secure no matter how he performs.

  1460. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    I love Aceves

    Can they maybe score a run now?

  1461. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Ace relieves an ace…

    Knocking down Nats, one, two, three…

    All ears on Kate Smith…

  1462. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    I wonder if Girardi will talk to Joba, or he’ll say in the post game that it was the rain delays fault.

  1463. Johan Halladay - When OPPC comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it June 18th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    You guys are overreacting.

    We still have three more innings to make a come back. The Nationals only have 400k pitchers, we have multi-millionaire hitters.

  1464. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Could be a problem for Joba with the rain delay. Florida trying to help out the Yanks. 2-1

  1465. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    “we have multi-millionaire hitters.”

    John, that is the problem.

  1466. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    frank b with a usual brilliant comment to fire the manager. yup it is his fault all the millionaires don’t work overtime and chamberlain is smarter then all his catchers and coach’s.. after all I am sure cervelli, posada, and eiland are imploring miss joba to nibble and not trust your stuff………

    frank b a standard yankee fan, spoiled, stupid, clueless, and pathetic…

  1467. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    jobas end result 6 ip 3 runs doesnt tell the story at all…he pitched poorly but hes not the goat today…the offense clearly is…if they cant find a way to win this game then there is something wrong..i believe the yankees could lose 8 to the sox…to lose 2 out of 3 to the nats is rough…im totally flabbergasted

  1468. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    whos callin a strikeout here

  1469. Mo'sflatcutter June 18th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    I tried to tell everybody that the Yanks stunk. Now you believe me. Better late than never, I guess.

    Another train wreck of a season is underway..

  1470. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    We’ve seen the Mets for 3 games and now the Nationals. Which team plays better fundamental baseball? The Mets might have more talent but their team plays sloppy and undisciplined. Manny Acta’s team although less talented play good fundamental baseball. If I’m running the Mets, I dump Manuel and hire Acta when he eventually gets fired.

  1471. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    The way you all defend Posada is hilarious. Hes terrible and washed up. There is a reason why we haven’t been playing well. Posada comes back and kills everything we were building. Oh he helped us win 4 rings! So what he hasn’t done nothing in 9 years. We should have let him walk but nooo we had to give a 36 year old catcher 52 million dollars.

  1472. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    If the Yankees lose tonight, the Washington Nationals would have won an 1/9th of their games against the Yankees.

    Hooray Washington.

  1473. Lou in SoCal June 18th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    frank b
    June 18th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
    i miss george steinbrenner

    Amen Brother! Me Too! I also miss the 1998 Yankees, I hate what we have become.

  1474. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    If the Yankees lose they need to whipped.

  1475. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    yea the ghost the nats are very good funadmentally that is why they lead baseball in errors committed by a ton.

    another shrewd insightful comment from a clueless yankee fan…

  1476. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    wow..

  1477. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Stuart: “RS you are delusional. the yanks are 2nd in runs scored”

    they are second in runs scored yet their lineup gets dominated by the Nats and Nieve of the Mets? They are second in runs scored because they occasionally go off and score 15. They are wildly inconsistent, and have been like this for years. Do other supposed contenders go into so many extended team-wide slumps as the Yanks? I don’t think so.

  1478. BillP June 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Sorry to hear about Remy, but the fact that he has cancer doesn’t make him any better as an announcer.

    And for god sakes Girardi, give Alex a couple of days off. He can’t pull his right side through on inside pitches at all.

  1479. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    AWWW MAN

  1480. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Wow! Willie Harris.

  1481. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    That will be on SportsCenter

  1482. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    That sealed it.

  1483. Steve June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    :Maybe the bats will show up when the sun comes out, their offense is ajoke, how can you destroy Santanna, but cant hit agaisnt class A pictures, this team is killing me

  1484. Maria June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Damn.

  1485. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    if thats not a death blow….

  1486. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    first pitch hit waddya no cano

  1487. Betsy June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Trevor, I hate to believe the Yankees are really not into this game. That would suggest they have more serious problems than just their poor play would indicate. It’s one thing to not play well, it’s another to be in a complete malaise. They had a long hot streak and everything was hunky dory – great, that’s the easy part. I want to see the Yankees be a real team and pull themselves together before this spins out of control. So far, they aren’t doing a good job of it.

  1488. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Wow, That’s a much better catch than it even looked. That kid had to spin around and dive.

  1489. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    So not fair! Alex finally gets a hold of one, and — yuck!!!

    You know, I know it’s instinctual, but Alex deserved a mercy hit!!!!

    :lol:

  1490. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Not a thing you can say bad about that at bat. It was a rocket. Great catch by Harris. He’s been my choice for a utility pickup all year.

  1491. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    dutch hugo you are wrong the yanks have not had as many 15 run games as in previous yrs. also the yanks slugging % and other offensive #’s are all near the top of the stat board…

  1492. Steve June 18th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    excuse me Class A pitchers

  1493. Steve June 18th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    excuse me Class A pitchers

  1494. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    When did Swisher turn into Sheffield? Every hack he takes is for a home run.

  1495. Joe June 18th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Banuelos has pitched a great game so far, just two hits allowed, but a 0-0 game for the Riverdogs.

  1496. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    “Could be a problem for Joba with the rain delay. Florida trying to help out the Yanks. 2-1″

    Yeah well theres going to be more rain here in Flordia. We’re currently in hurricane season. Its suppose to rain all week. I live in TB area, but its suppose to be crappy in Miami for the week. They said 30% chance today, and it poured like crazy.

  1497. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    score atleast one this inning please

  1498. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    “The way you all defend Posada is hilarious. Hes terrible and washed up. There is a reason why we haven’t been playing well. Posada comes back and kills everything we were building. Oh he helped us win 4 rings! So what he hasn’t done nothing in 9 years. We should have let him walk but nooo we had to give a 36 year old catcher 52 million dollars.”

    Yankee record did kind of fall to shreds since he returned. Maybe he needs more time to get comfortable with the pitchers again?

  1499. BillP June 18th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    He hit it hard because it was out over the plate. He can’t hit anything on the inner half with authority

  1500. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    They made Philly pitching look great (aside of Hamels who is good) too. And their starting pitching stinks.

  1501. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    man these nats must be in first place or something

  1502. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Funny how you hit balls harder on a more consistent basis when you don’t swing at EVERYTHING. If not for Harris’ play they have a big rally going this inning.

  1503. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    The Nat’s need to win 10 games after this series. Just so it doesn’t look too bad for the yanks

  1504. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    swingin at ball 4 nice…

  1505. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Have any Yankees even attempted a bunt tonight?

  1506. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    “The way you all defend Posada is hilarious. Hes terrible and washed up. There is a reason why we haven’t been playing well. Posada comes back and kills everything we were building. Oh he helped us win 4 rings! So what he hasn’t done nothing in 9 years. We should have let him walk but nooo we had to give a 36 year old catcher 52 million dollars.”

    Tell me your just kidding around?

  1507. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    The looks on the managers’ faces tell you everything you need to know.

    Acta looks anxious, like he can’t believe he has a chance tow in this game. Girardi looks like he wants to crawl into a hole and pass out.

  1508. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Yankees can still take this game.

    Why all the horror and surprise about losing to a bad team? Seriously WHY? Some of the worst teams in baseball have owned the Yankees before even during season the Yankees won the world series.

    You sound really dumb acting like the Yankees can’t lose a lot of games to bad teams. They have before and they probably will again. It’s baseball. Anything can happen at any time.

  1509. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    daamnit… now if harris didnt make an unreal play we wud be about to tie this game up… AHH

  1510. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    if harris didnt make that catch…..

  1511. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    probably should have sent Cano, what are the odds the Yankees are going to achieve 4 hits in an inning?

  1512. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    get something off of Villone

  1513. terpbomber June 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Hopefully Villone gets lit up.

  1514. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Carl
    June 18th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
    The way you all defend Posada is hilarious. Hes terrible and washed up. There is a reason why we haven’t been playing well. Posada comes back and kills everything we were building. Oh he helped us win 4 rings! So what he hasn’t done nothing in 9 years. We should have let him walk but nooo we had to give a 36 year old catcher 52 million dollars.

    ————————————————————

    Call Jack Kevorkian. You’ve been declared medically brain dead. Here’s the number to call: 1-800-Dr-Death.

  1515. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    better have Posada getting ready for Cervelli’s spot….

    at least hit the damn ball to the outfield mr roll over to 2nd matsui………..

  1516. Joe from Long Island June 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Here’s hoping Villone does for them what he did for us.

  1517. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    AHHH

  1518. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Ron Villone is still alive!!!!

  1519. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    “The way you all defend Posada is hilarious. Hes terrible and washed up. There is a reason why we haven’t been playing well. Posada comes back and kills everything we were building. Oh he helped us win 4 rings! So what he hasn’t done nothing in 9 years. We should have let him walk but nooo we had to give a 36 year old catcher 52 million dollars.”

    —–

    3 Rings Idiot

  1520. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    matsui that first pitch had damon’s deck written all over it

  1521. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Cmon yanks work that late inning magic

  1522. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Hey FLATCUTTER YOU RAGING IDIOT. Amazed Pete didn’t bother cutting your head off since he knows your a troll phonhy. Happy you’re here though since I have a question for you.

    *WHY AREN’T THE SLOP SOX WINNING TONIGHT?*

    I thought they were the Jesus of baseball!

  1523. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Runner at third, less than two outs.

    You have to get AT LEAST one out of this. Yankees tend to beat themselves by not getting these guys in

  1524. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    What was that Matsui?

  1525. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    wow… thats f ing embarrassing

  1526. terpbomber June 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    That was an ugly swing.

  1527. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Gotta bat Posada.

  1528. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    not even a sac fly.

  1529. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

    You take a ton of sliders right over the plate, then swing at a garbage pitch NOWHERE CLOSE to the zone.

    Runner at 3rd, less than 2 outs. Even being down 3 runs, with 2 more against the Nats pen and the top of the lineup coming up, these runs could be the difference in the GAME.

    Is there a worse team in all of baseball at driving in a runner from 3rd with less than 2 outs? I’d have to see it to believe it.

  1530. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Nice pitch to swing at.

  1531. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    wow, and they boo arod

  1532. Maria June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    What was Matsui swinging at there? Come on Jorge bring ‘em home!

  1533. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    another good AB from one of our clutch guys..

    like swisher yesterday with a man on 2nd and no outs.

    matsui is absolutely in decline.. k’s to the great ron villone….jeez…..

  1534. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    The Yankees really need Jeter back in this lineup

  1535. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    dynasty is destiny, if your out there i need a haiku

  1536. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Is there any advantage for Posada after catching Villone all those years?

  1537. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    There not going to give him much to hit with Pena on deck.

  1538. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    great pinch hitting numbers… 226 average wonderful

  1539. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Does Jeter pinch hit?

  1540. Wes June 18th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    “There not going to give him much to hit with Pena on deck.”

    I wouldn’t count Pena out

  1541. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    ph jeter

  1542. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    cmon captain clutch!

  1543. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Jeter!

  1544. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Then you all talk about Burnett having his best year in his contract year, look what posada did in 07 :laugh:

  1545. terpbomber June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Time for the captain to unleash the ghosts…

  1546. Minnesota Yankee Fan June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    go DJ!

  1547. Maria June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Come on Jeter! You know the crowd just loved seeing him pop out of that dug out!

  1548. pat June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Time for a hero moment from the Captain?

  1549. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    did you guys see that?? Pena walked in the phone booth and derek jeter came out.

  1550. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Rodriguez is robbed…

    Stammen stymies no longer…

    Captain pinch-hiting…

  1551. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Boy is the Washington Nationals bullpen a scrap heap or what???

  1552. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    now if we dont spank tavarez…

  1553. Brian June 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Matsui is not good

  1554. tim boat June 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Captain Groundout to save the day

  1555. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    a go ahead grandslam on the anniversary of his only grandslam would be terrific…but at this point ill take a walk or hbp

  1556. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland June 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    random thought:

    Julian Tavarez keeps getting uglier with age.

    WOW – he fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

    Jeter Vs. Tavarez — the epic battle of BEAUTY and the BEAST!

  1557. Minnesota Yankee Fan June 18th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    too many commercials! suspense is killing me!

  1558. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    The Yankees don’t stink. They are definitely in a slump, though.

    Come on, Jete!

  1559. Joe from Long Island June 18th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    You know, Girardi’s decisions are not the problem, I think. I don’t think he told Matsui to swing at that pitch, for instance. Pinch htiing Posada and Jeter here are the obvious moves. Not he is fault if they don’t get it done.

    So, it’s Cutie vs. Freddy Kreuger….

  1560. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    This is the story of the Nats. Take leads into late innings, turn it over to the bullpen, lose the game (usually). Don’t confuse a terrible record with a terrible pen. Their starters and offense aren’t too shabby.

  1561. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    cmon JETER!

  1562. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Matt
    June 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
    The looks on the managers’ faces tell you everything you need to know.
    Acta looks anxious, like he can’t believe he has a chance tow in this game. Girardi looks like he wants to crawl into a hole and pass out.

    ——————–

    Boy, how in the world do the Nats follow through on their plan to fire Acta when they get home after the way the Nats have played in this series?

  1563. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Acta is a good manager holding out Tavares to face Jeter. Even if Tavares doesn’t do the job he still made the right move.

  1564. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    that was a you hang em we bang em! damn jeter

  1565. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    What the hell was that? :lol:

  1566. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    ugh

  1567. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Ugh, almost.

  1568. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Don’t even dare make excuses about the Nationals making great defensive plays and robbing them of runs. How about they try hitting the ball hard on a consistent basis so the Nationals can’t make the plays in the first place?

  1569. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Maybe he should have hit it less hard. :(

  1570. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    offense fails again

  1571. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    fail.

  1572. tim boat June 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    like i said, captain groundout

  1573. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    That Jeter is terrible….what a bum.

  1574. Johan Halladay - When OPPC comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it June 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    I told you guys not to give up. We had men on 2nd and 3rd with only one out, and we almost got a run. Then we had the bases loaded, and we almost got two runs.

  1575. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    cant buy a damn break but you shouldnt need any against this team…none of the red sox games have made me more upset than this game…

  1576. Wangawa June 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    We don’t deserve to win this series. You can’t take the first 6 innings off every day and expect to win games, even against the Nationals.

  1577. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    “fail”

    EPIC FAIL

  1578. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Was once a Red Sox…

    National now, Tavarez…

    Thwarting the Captain…

  1579. pat June 18th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Very :sad:

  1580. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    hey stu how about this one. i miss joe torre a real manager. fire joe now

  1581. Eights June 18th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Had Jeter gotten a hit right there, the stadium would have exploded. Almost a movie-esque type of scenario almost played out, with the Captain coming in off injury to save the day.

    Too bad.

  1582. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    These games are all on the offense – or lack thereof. Why is it that they all slump together? And why is it that the 15-run attack on Santana couldn’t carry over?

    Joba? Player of the game? Are they on drugs????

  1583. AZ Four June 18th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Great effort tonight

    They really came to play

  1584. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Does anyone know, that the quick pitch by VILLONE last inning was a balk??????????????

  1585. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Wow – Yankees stepping up. :)

  1586. Hank June 18th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Wow, first you get dominated by the Red Sox and can’t win a single game against them. Now you lose 2 out of 3 to a horrific baseball team in the Nats. And you get held scoreless in the rubber game. The Yankees are just an awful, awful ballclub. I would guess in a month the games will be meaningless and the stadium will be filled with empty seats.

    What a disastrous season.

  1587. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Must be nice to collect millions of dollars in salaries even after NOT doing your job.

  1588. Rose June 18th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Girardi looks tight as a drum.

  1589. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Johan Halladay, I get your schtick now. You’re being sarcastic.

  1590. Danny June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Complacency will be this team’s downfall, just like it was in 2008

    The 2008 is no different than this team except their ability to come back. The lying down to garbage pitchers for 7 innings still remains though. Except this year we win about 30% of those games rather than 15% like we did last yr.

  1591. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Joba chamberlain was the P.O.G

  1592. Eights June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Fire Michael Kay….can I ask why you hate Kay so much?

    I think he’s a pretty decent commentator. He’s one of my favorite commentators, far better than anyone I listen to on ESPN, FOX, ABC, CBS, etc… (this goes for all sports).

  1593. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    OH Gardner

  1594. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    uh oh…gardner is hurt

  1595. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    OUCH!! wow

  1596. Serf June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Oh God Gardener…that looked horrible.

  1597. JOnes June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    man, that don’t look good

  1598. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Nice to see Brett Gardner is still hustling. Horrific crash.

  1599. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    poor Brett! hurt his head!

  1600. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    what the hell, the wall ktfo gardner.

  1601. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    thats what our offense does Doreen. We’re not the gritty guys of the red sox or the late 90s yankees. we dont grind out every at bat and try every at bat.

  1602. pat June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    That’s scary.

  1603. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Don’t you wish the entire team played as hard as Brett Gardner? A guy gives his body for a play and the rest of this team playing like this game means nothing. What an insult.

  1604. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    i hope gardner is ok…hes gives it everything hes got 100% of the time

  1605. Jeter 22 June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Nationals were a dead team, about to fire their manager and they come into Yankee Stadium and win a series.

    Says a lot more about us than it does about them. We are such a waste of talent. Spring Training promise quickly fizzles to mid-season reality, as always.

  1606. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Hank,

    Thanks over-reacting quite a bit. It’s not a disastrous season.

    This is a disastrous occurrence.

    Oh, poor Brett. Oh, I hope he’s going to be okay.

  1607. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Wow…really hope Gardner’s alright…

  1608. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Oh no.

  1609. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    can that wake the team up please!!

  1610. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    wow he ate all of that

  1611. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    he looks in pain

  1612. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Rest of the team should take a few lessons from Gardner.

  1613. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Now tell me this team doesn’t play hard

  1614. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    i didnt say this. my mentally ill brother watching the game with me said “maybe brett’s dead” “that might fire this team up to value each at bat every game”.

  1615. Aura June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    That looks like a concussion

  1616. yankeefan66 June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    all I can say is PU…the Yankees are stinking up the place….whats next a sweep by the Marlins?

  1617. Erik Sec. 309 June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    I guess they just have to put one Yank on the player of the game list. Joba has a stat line so he qualifies. This is real ugly……………….Since we’re not going to get a great quote by the boss, can the Yanks at least have a closed door meeting?

  1618. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    It’s just a game folks.

  1619. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Poor GGBG- that had to hurt. He looked dazed

  1620. Serf June 18th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Well…perfect time to put Melky in I guess.

  1621. Aura June 18th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    This is such a poorly designed ballpark. Why do they need that plexiglass out there with that lip? Does the bullpen really need to see every play in the park?

  1622. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    we need a manager to put a fire cracker in there rear ends.joe is not the guy.. fire joe now

  1623. Eric June 18th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Don’t know why people are so shocked. This has always been a front-running team, the girl with the curl.

    Looks great when they win and everything is clicking and look dreadful when they face a bit of adversity. We have always been poor at executing fundamentals. And when things don’t go right and we are not hitting 20 HRs, we are exposed.

  1624. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Outstanding catch, but, other than being shook up, he should be alright, other than picking parts of the warning track out of his arm.

    Part two: What the Hell was Dunn doing? He should have been on 2nd base, and by rights, third base.

  1625. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Cliff -

    Amen.

  1626. jennifer June 18th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    He smashed his head and kidney are. Hope he is okay. :-(

  1627. Aura June 18th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    With the money they pay these players why has no one invented a breakaway fence with a spring similar to the rim in basketball?

  1628. Johan Halladay - When OPPC comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it June 18th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    The National’s starting staff maybe better than ours, but we already beat their bullpen once, and we can do it again.

    This team never gives up after the first six innings.

  1629. Christina - Picture of YES Network studio June 18th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    My head hurt just watching him hit the plexiglass, or whatever it is… Man, I hope hes okay.

  1630. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    frank b, we get it you want joe fired. no need to repeat yourself 40 more times.

  1631. pat June 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Brett has a CatScan and a number of Advil in his future tonight.

  1632. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Yankees losing games isn’t the worst thing in the world. Not compared to Gardner breaking his back (that’s really what I thought happened) or cracking his skull.

    Yankees will win again and lose again. We’ll all live. They’re a very good team just not playing great right now/

  1633. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    frank b, how does Joe fire up players that make 15-20 million a year?

  1634. Joe from Long Island June 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    This is why I can’t tolerate people who use the term “garbage” to describe ballplayers.

    Brett may not be an All Star, but he tries his darndest. He may have suffered a concusion there, or worse. None of these guys rate what they are called by some people.

  1635. The Ghost June 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Yeah, it’s about time for Girardi to have one of his classic tantrums on the field. He should have done it on the close play with Melky last night. This team always responds when Girardi erupts.

  1636. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Coke is a bad man

  1637. hiya jackson! June 18th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Seriously, the Yankees are going nowhere, obviously.

    I don’t believe in curses, but since 2004, this franchise hasn’t gotten a single thing right. If any team deserved to get booed by the hometown fans, it’s this one.

  1638. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    You know he slammed hard because the plexiglass didn’t even budge.

  1639. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    I hate Michael Kay because he is the epitome of the Yankees organization. He is a brain dead lazy commentator who uses meaningless stats to talk about something, brings up garbage to talk about during important points in the game, doesnt mention when the Yankees get questionable or incorrect calls against them, but mentions when we get a questionable favorable call, he bashes the Yankees on ESPN Radio every day.

    The fact that YES employs him is no surprise. THey put Mike Francesa oon YES, another guy who knows nothing about baseball.

    We have KEvin Long, Dave Eiland, and Joe Girardi, not to mention boyhood red sox fan Brian Cashman, and unfortunately, the greatest owner in sports history is pretty much dead, and his sons refuse to do what is necessary.

    TOp to Bottom, this is the worst run organization in sports. It reminds me of the Dallas Cowboys.

    Now, maybe we can come back!

  1640. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    they need to find a way to win this game…by need i dont mean *need* but it would be greatly appreciated…plus, in this economy we wouldnt want half of new york to commit suicide

  1641. Y26 June 18th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Why does the entire team go into a slump at the same time.

    I thought they only saved that for October? Now, they’ve done it 2 years in a row in the regular season. The team collectively forgets how to play baseball against the cellar dwellers.

  1642. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Outfielders drop like flies on this team

  1643. Erik Sec. 309 June 18th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    For people that are mad at fans who get upset when the Yanks lose to a miserable team (understatement) such as the Nats……deal with it. This team has too much talent to lose to a team like this and get blown away by their starters in such an embarassing manner. It is okay for fans to expect more from this Yankee team.

  1644. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    While I’ll admit the Yanks being shutout so far is embarrassing…

    The Sox have one hit against a pitcher whose ERA was about 7.50 coming into the game.

    It happens.

    Yanks need to look in the mirror and snap out of it.

  1645. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Best wishes to Brett.

    Can we score a run or 4 somehow?

  1646. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    hey vito your right i over did it. i’am really pissed of tonite.

  1647. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Positives: The bullpen looks great, and the starting pitchers are pitching better.

    The hitting will pick up soon.

  1648. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    “June 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
    This is why I can’t tolerate people who use the term “garbage” to describe ballplayers.

    Brett may not be an All Star, but he tries his darndest. He may have suffered a concusion there, or worse. None of these guys rate what they are called by some people.”

    you couldnt be more right…he does give it all he has….

  1649. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    This is the inning. Against Fake 2004 Damon. I know it

  1650. Frank June 18th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    If the team has any guts, they will win it for Gardner.

  1651. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    And what i mean by that is, the Cowboys and Yankees have all the talent in the world. Obviously, the Knicks, Nationals are worse run, but they dont have the teams the Cowboys or we do.

  1652. Joe June 18th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    I’m sure that hit by Brett Gardner will make the local news back in Charleston tonight. He is a local product, and anything he does is important.

    Matt Wieters hit a HR last night for the O’s, and you’d think he had won the World Series. They showed the clip of when he got pied by the Baltimore players.

  1653. Drive 4-5 June 18th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    This is the headline on the Yankee’s website “Chamberlain Turns in Quality Start vs Nationals”

    LOL. I cant stop laughing. Does anything ever come out of the Yankee pr Dept that isnt an outright lie or not embarassingly stupid? The next headline will be “$2500 Seats Provide a Great Value for Your Family”. LOL

  1654. Morno June 18th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    I thought this team was not supposed to be tight because of the presence of Nick Swisher and Burnett? Isin’t that what people said in Spring Training? They will not go through slumps and will not play tight because Swisher plays loud music and Burnett pies people?

  1655. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    phrase -

    Well put.

  1656. Grey 44 June 18th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Rose

    June 18th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Girardi looks tight as a drum.

    ————–

    As does the team. Coincidence?

  1657. huby June 18th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    This Yankees’ team is pathetic. They are about to lose 2 out of 3 to the worst team in baseball. I have never seen such a group of underachievers in my life. Right now and for this series, the Nationals are better than the Yankees. I guarantee you, the Red Sox would never lose 2 out of 3 to the Nationals in any ballpark, especially at Fenway. Here is my prediction for this sad bunch: they will finish third in the division behind the Red Sox and Rays and won’t make the playoffs.

  1658. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Funny what happens when you take some pitches.

  1659. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    “LOL. I cant stop laughing. Does anything ever come out of the Yankee pr Dept that isnt an outright lie or not embarassingly stupid? The next headline will be ”$2500 Seats Provide a Great Value for Your Family”. LOL”

    Well, you know those seats do provide free waitress service and they throw snacks at you

  1660. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland June 18th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Beimel fell out of tavarez’s ugly tree and hit all the rest of the branches on the way down

  1661. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    How is that move not a balk?

  1662. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Yankees losing games isn’t the worst thing in the world. Not compared to Gardner breaking his back (that’s really what I thought happened) or cracking his skull.

    Yankees will win again and lose again. We’ll all live. They’re a very good team just not playing great right now/

    ==============================

    Agreed.

  1663. Tankus June 18th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    The Nats pen is bad, but they are not going to give up 3-4 runs in the next 2 innings.

    That would require good at bats and clutch hits. Not trying to hit 900 fot HRs. This team has no idea how to hit with RISP. Even the worst pitcher in the world can hit his spots and get us out as long as they don’t put put over the plate for us to hit a HR

    Our whole approach is flawed.

  1664. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    If you’ve watched baseball for at least a few seasons you know that teams go into slumps. Even if you don’t want it to happen it does. You can do all the chants you want and they still can go into slumps. If they go into slumps you know when they come out? When they do.

    All teams have slumps.

    I don’t care if someone gets upset and someone doesn’t. You want to be mad that they lose or are slumping be mad. Nobody should take your good time away from you.

    I understand slumps happen. So me I don’t get too upset since I know it happens to all teams at one time or another. When it happens it does. When it’s over it is. I don’t see any point in hitting my head against a wall over it.

  1665. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    the Red Sox wouldnt even have a meaningful scoreless inning against the Nationals.

  1666. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    “This Yankees’ team is pathetic. ”

    ——-

    yet you still watch and follow the team, read and post on blogs, etc. doesn’t that make you….

  1667. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Even Tex has gone cold.

  1668. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    can we possibly get shut out by the nationals?

  1669. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    They didn’t say they wouldn’t go through slumps. They said the good feelings among the teammates would help them get through the slumps, supporting each other.

  1670. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Boston Dave,

    that makes someone a realistic person who happens to be a true fan, he comes to blogs looking for a place to vent probably.

  1671. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Leadoff walks score

    except for the Yankees.

  1672. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    good teams beat bad teams, this is how you get to 20 games over 500. were not that good

  1673. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    yankees have to be the worst team at getting the runner in with the leadoff man on.

  1674. Eights June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Well, I think that will just about do it.

    I have no faith in our offense.

  1675. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    I might be wrong, but historically- isn’t interleague play disasterous for the Yankees? I remember one west coast road trip in 2007 they couldn’t buy a win

  1676. mmx June 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    $30 million man can’t hit anything after stop taking PED.

  1677. j russell June 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Fire Michael Kay:

    He’s paid for his opinions and ability to engage viewers, not to be the ultimate Yankees fan.

  1678. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Shut out by the Nationals.

    I wonder how many times they’ve shut out an opponent this year.

  1679. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    What a joke. These are the Nationals. You can’t sugar coat this and talk about how it’s just one series. It doesn’t matter, and that’s what you guys don’t get.

    It’s not about their record or their position in the standings. It’s about how outright pathetic and disgraceful it is to lose a series to the Nationals, period. Whether they win 100 games or 80, they will have lost a series to the potentially WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL HISTORY.

    Just so you guys are aware, they have won only 2 series ALL SEASON.

    And not only that, but our “vaunted” offense is being SHUT OUT against the WORST PITCHING STAFF IN ALL OF BASEBALL.

  1680. huby June 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Make me what Boston Dave?

  1681. beedogs June 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    this team’s got less life in it than bea arthur.

  1682. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Don’t overreact.

    It’s a slump. Not the end of the season.

    May this be the worst slump of the year.

  1683. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    “Boston Dave,

    that makes someone a realistic person who happens to be a true fan, he comes to blogs looking for a place to vent probably.”

    ———–

    I could be wrong, but I thought it was possible to vent without being a miserable, irrational, dope.

    I am just as frustrated but I guess I have an uncanny ability to not being an imbecile in the process.

  1684. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Slop Sox in a rain delay. In the 6th. Florida winning.

    Here’s one to watch. FLATCUTTER comes and goes like the wind. Takes off when the slop sox are losing. Shows up when the Yankees are losing. Takes off when they are winning. Can’t stay and say much if Yanks are losing and slop sox are losing too.

    Brave dud, I mean dude.

  1685. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    *become

  1686. boobie June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Yanks just went through a big stretch of beating alot of bad teams. At one point they won 16 of 20. This was kind of a perfect storm of losing for the Yanks. They just faced the Sox and Mets and then you play the worst team in baseball. I hate using the we aren’t as intense excuse but you can understand it. Plus facing three straight rookie pitchers in a row is tough no matter what. Yes there is video but for anyone who has ever played a college or professional sport. Watching video is no where even close to the real thing.

  1687. Voice of Reason June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Kevin Long, the bell tolls for thee

  1688. jake June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    *This is embarassing*

  1689. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    matt you said it all.

  1690. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    I like Robertson. Glad they didn’t send him down.

  1691. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “Make me what Boston Dave?”

    ———-

    if you can’t figure out what I meant, I can’t help you.

  1692. boobie June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    forgot to add —-does this suck, without a doubt, will we remember this if they make the playoffs, considering how we are as fans, yes, but it won’t hurt as much

  1693. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    huby,

    i think boston dave meant to say, you are a true fan for sticking by this patheticly inconsisten team who throws away at least 20 games a year that should be won.

    You are alot better than those Patriots fan….

    the ones that did not exist prior to 2001. Their fan base grew by an infinite number. 0 to 10000000000

  1694. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    ban tylaa from this site.

    his or her comments were moronic and terrible.

  1695. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Series Yankees have won this year- 14
    Series Nationals have won this year- 2

    This is just pitiful.

    It’s not the fact that we are losing, it’s the fact that we are losing to the Nationals. It’s disgraceful, and even if Boston lost 2/3 this week, which they didn’t, it would still be incredibly embarrassing because of who it is.

    You can say it’s just one series, but it’s one that’s incredibly embarrassing regardless. They could run off 10 in a row, but they still lost a series to the Nationals. It’s not about the standings, it’s about your pride.

    If the team wins 4 series all year and loses 120 games, the Yankees will be one of the series they actually won. Can you imagine how pathetic that would be?

  1696. RS June 18th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Who would have thought the Yankees would score more runs off Johan Santana on Sunday than in 3 games against the Nationals??

  1697. pat June 18th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Are they going to tease us in the 9th, pull off a comeback or go quietly into the night????

  1698. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    The Nationals have won one series on the road this year. One.

  1699. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Boston Dave,

    he called the team pathetic. There is no other way to describe it. You could call this team the Cowboys.

  1700. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Posada behind the plate, and nibble nibble nibble begins again when the pitchers get ahead in the count. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

  1701. huby June 18th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    I am a true Yankees’ fan who comes here to vent. I, along with every other Yankees’ fan, has high expectations for this team. I realize teams go through slumps, but even a slumping Yankees should be more than sufficient to sweep the Nationals. It frustrates me to see them lose like this to this team, but I’m still a genuine fan.

  1702. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Gardner giving all…

    Pinstripes pounding plexiglass…

    Falling, rain, prayers rise…

  1703. Blackdragon905 June 18th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Is it me or is Robertson throwing harder this year than last year? I remember last year he was around 90-91 but this year he has been at 93 consistently. I’ve even seen 94.

  1704. Going Nowhere Fast June 18th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    What an absolute disgrace this series has been. 0-8 vs. the Red Sox and losing a series to the Nationals. What does the OPPC have to say about this? Try to swing this into a positive. This is an embarrassment and I hope Hank or Hal calls out the entire team for this pathetic display.

  1705. Serf June 18th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Are they going to tease us in the 9th, pull off a comeback or go quietly into the night????
    ——–

    Both. They will tease us in the 9th with a leadoff hit or 2 but they probably won’t do anything with it.

  1706. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    “the ones that did not exist prior to 2001. Their fan base grew by an infinite number. 0 to 10000000000″

    =====

    What about all the Yankees fans here that didn’t exist before 1996.

  1707. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    You know – those check swings really drive me nuts. There is no consistency whatsoever. It really makes you wonder how they got that call on Sunday for AJ, because the umpires seemingly NEVER call it a swing. That one looked like a swing to me.

  1708. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Matt but what don’t you get about this? This isn’t the first season the Yankees have lost to the worst team in baseball or a team with a pathetic record. You act like they’re making history here. Any team can win or any given night. If a team goes cold sometimes it doesn’t matter who they face. They go cold.

    The Yankees have lost season series to very bad teams before. It didn’t keep them from winning the world series or going to the playoffs.

  1709. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    way to walk the leadoff hitter yogi nieves.

    the beat goes on. here comes a bunt…

    imagine if the yanks hit with RISP at the league avg. they would lead the league in runs scored by a ton..

  1710. rconn23 June 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    “Posada behind the plate, and nibble nibble nibble begins again when the pitchers get ahead in the count. Coincidence? I don’t think so.”

    Wow. That’s just dumb.

  1711. Christina - Picture of YES Network studio June 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Joe Girardi will insert a pitcher into the game as a pitch hitter before he uses Angel Berroa

  1712. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    It’s amazing how people can make such outrageous statements, insinuating that anyone who dares criticize the team is not a “real fan.”

    I’d say someone who calls the team out when they play like garbage is more of a “real fan” than someone who blindly praises them no matter what they do. How can you be a fan when you care so little about seeing your team play well? A “real fan” wants to see their team win, and will obviously be unhappy to see them lose.

  1713. huby June 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Going Nowhere Fast, I agree with you. This team, the manager, and coaching staff need to be called out on this.

  1714. huby June 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Going Nowhere Fast, I agree with you. This team, the manager, and coaching staff need to be called out on this.

  1715. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Imagine if you waited 5-plus hours to watch this?

  1716. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Jesus, come on, Robertson…you’re taking longer to get through two batters than Aceves and Coke took to get through 2 innings.

  1717. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Hey Cliff, the Red Sox fan,

    We had 22 world series prior to 1996, the patriots did not even have a fan. you weasel.

  1718. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Going Nowhere Fast I don’t know what OPPC says about your statement. I say the team is slumping and slumps happen. When they happen you don’t stop the presses because the opponent is someone you should beat. THAT’S WHY THEY CALL THEM SLUMPS!

  1719. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Matt should be banned from the site for just utter stupidity above and beyond even the morons who post here…

    yeah this great pitching staff is nibbling because of the 3 time champ posada has lost his mind and has dementia…

  1720. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    The fans sitting in the rain for seven hours deserve better than this pathetic crap.

  1721. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    The Yankees just look so flat. They have got to start hitting pitchers they have never seen before or the next 6 games could be trouble since they probably have not seen too many of those Marlin and Brave pitchers.

  1722. Angel Berroa June 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Yeah Joe doesn’t love me so much… probably because I’m older than him.

  1723. Christina - Picture of YES Network studio June 18th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Can you imagine if you paid 1,250 dollars to see this game?

  1724. vey June 18th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Can you imagine how great they are going to feel beating the Yankees? I just got home and can’t believe the Yankees haven’t scored a single run. *Toronto swept the Phillies*.

  1725. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    If you want to be assured of the outcome, don’t go to a sporting event. Go to a Broadway show.

  1726. RS June 18th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    What’s worse…0-8 against the Red Sox, or losing a series and getting shut out at home against the Nationals?

  1727. huby June 18th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Good point Matt. It’s not that those of us who call the team out for poor play are not real fans; we definitely are. We expect great things because we know the team is capable of doing great things. We want them to live up to their potential, and when they don’t, we call them on it just like a parents do to their children when they don’t live up to their potential. I don’t have a problem with a team giving 100% but failing; what I do have a problem with is when the team doesn’t look like they’re giving a 100%, when they look like they’re dogging it. This I have a problem with, and rightly so.

  1728. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    So I guess the Phillies stink now? Their season is over, too?

  1729. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Zimmerman is hot right now.

  1730. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Fire Michael Kay,

    Not a Red Sox fan. Have had a season ticket package for the Yankees since 1986.

  1731. YankOzFan June 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Walk Johnson to get to Zimmerman. This game is too painful. What’s Girardi thinking?

  1732. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    We can still come back, guys. All we have to do is value at bats in the 9th

  1733. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Doreen…unless someone breaks a leg.

  1734. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    I call shut out

  1735. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    I feel like I am in some alternate universe on this forum. Is there really a discussion about what is a real fan? Did someone say calling a team garbage is being a real fan but not calling them garbage is being a bad fan?

    Try it this way. There are fans who understand what slumps are. They know when a team is slumping it isn’t garbage. It’s a team in a slump.

    I didn’t know there was one definition of a real fan.

    I think some fans are more emotional than others and get more riled up than others. It doesn’t make them better or worse fans does it. Just maybe a little nuttier than the average candy bar.

  1736. Jones June 18th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Good for Robertson

  1737. Going Nowhere Fast June 18th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Phrase,

    Are you kidding me? The Nationals had 16 wins before this series. It’s mid-June and they have 16 wins. This pathetic Yankee team is going to lose a series AT HOME to a team that is going to lose 110+ games. That is an absolute disgrace and slump or not, there’s not excuse for it. In fact, this is the type of series that should break a good team out of a slump. Keep toeing the company line….this team is going nowhere fast…

  1738. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Wow Stuart, way to make a productive post. I’m sure Pete will ban ME because you launched a personal attack, which by the way is against blog policy.

    You like to ignore every opinion that isn’t yours, but it makes perfect sense. Being a three time world champion proves absolutely NOTHING about his catching skills. Torre was a 4 time world champion and most people came to realize how terrible a manager he really was.

    How about the fact that he was catching Clemens, Pettitte, Mussina, Cone, El Duque, Wells, etc in their PRIMES? You think that might have to do with the fact that they won world series championships?

    But I get it. If the pitchers pitch well, it’s because Posada is a great catcher. I mean, it couldn’t be because they are great pitchers?

    Every time Posada catches a pitcher he doesn’t know or who is young, the pitcher struggles. That is a hardly a coincidence. I dare you to defend that pitch he called on Anderson on Tuesday night. How could anyone defend his pitch selection?

    When he catches, the number of wild pitches that pitchers throw mysteriously seems to increase, while the number of walks does with it. Have you ever seen so many pitchers go from 0-2 to 3-2 and walk guys as you do with Posada?

    He calls a game as he would think the opposing team would call a game on him as a hitter (aka, he calls a ridiculous amount of down and in sliders to the opposite hand, which get hung and hit out of th eballpark eventually).

  1739. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    And BTW Fire Michael Kay,

    I went to at least one game of each of those world series in the 90′s that you speak of.

  1740. jockomac June 18th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    This is an embarrassment! The Nationals come into Yankee Stadium having won 6 games on the road all year and leave with 8 wins. So 25% of their road wins will come against our listless Yankees. What a disgrace!

  1741. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Vader -

    As long as it’s not the lead dancer or the star.

  1742. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    no homeruns yet, whats the deal

  1743. YankOzFan June 18th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Oh…that’s what G was up to. Closet genius.

  1744. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Last licks.

  1745. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    huby supporting Matt, 2 2 NY public school dropouts…

    real fans critique the yanks all the time but to say they are losing because Posada asks the pitchers to nibble is not a critque it is just a moron who has no friggin clue.

    a critique is the pitchers walk to many batters or cano is so undisciplined at the plate they need to move him down in the order or burnett is avg. and needs to trust his stuff…

    but huby and matt for guys with your limited cognitive ability I guess you just can’t understand…

  1746. GreenBeret7 June 18th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    RS
    June 18th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
    What’s worse…0-8 against the Red Sox, or losing a series and getting shut out at home against the Nationals?

    ————————————————————

    I vote for reading drivel like this.

  1747. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    phrase –

    i like you a lot! :lol: Or, at least, what you have to say.

  1748. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    1 save and he got it last night lmao

  1749. RS June 18th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    The Yankees have seen McDougal 3 times now. No excuses, make something happen.

  1750. Joe June 18th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Nationals have 6 road wins and are a .250 baseball team

    They come into Yankee Stadium and easily win 2\3.

    Complacency will be our downfall.

  1751. pat June 18th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    “The fans sitting in the rain for seven hours deserve better than this pathetic crap.”

    They seem to be handling this game better and enjoying themselves more than those sitting warm and dry in their houses.

  1752. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    matt moron the # of wild pitches is a legit complaint about posadas defensive issues. complain that he makes pitchers nibble or does not know how to call a game is another matter but hey why be thoughtful when you can be a fool like you full time???

  1753. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Still a pulse.

  1754. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    cudnt do that last night?

  1755. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Too little, too late for Cano against MacDougal.

    Wish he did that last night instead of chasing a bunch of pitches off the plate. Must be the fact that the bases are empty.

  1756. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Robertson rebounds…

    We really need a rally…

    Started by Cano…

  1757. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    dont call it a comeback…

  1758. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Nationals playing their best ball of course against the Yankees.

  1759. Please hit the baseball June 18th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    What a struggle

  1760. JJ June 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Losing this series is more embarassing

    Sox are the best team in baseball… losing 8 to them means we are not in the same league as them, which is accurate and you can begrudgingly accept it.

    Losing to the Nationals mean we are lazy, complacent, and arrogant. 3 traits you won’t find in winning teams.

    This isin’t like losing to Baltimore or some scrappy team who plays hard and has some talent. This Nationals team is just deplorable. They play with no heart. They have a decent offense and nothing else. For them to walk into our building and beat us 2 of 3 is an embarrassment.

  1761. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    “They seem to be handling this game better and enjoying themselves more than those sitting warm and dry in their houses.”

    Dunno, I wouldn’t be too pleased if the Yankees dropped a stinkbomb after I’ve spent seven hours in the park.

  1762. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    cmon put the tieing run at the plate… still no HR tonight… the stadium is due

  1763. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    You people are ridiculous. Nothing makes you happy. You can’t just enjoy the moment. You always look for the negative take. it stinks, frankly.

  1764. DC 212 June 18th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    How about the Yankees hand out gift certificates to Delfrescos or something to the poor fans that watched this abomination of a baseball game?

  1765. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Going Nowhere Fast let me try this again for you.

    IF A TEAM IS SLUMPING IT DOESN’T MATTER WHO THE OPPONENT IS. THEY TEND TO LOSE GAMES BECAUSE THEY GO COLD.

    This isn’t about the Nationals. It’s about the Yankees going into a slump. Period.

    THE YANKEES ARE SLUMPING.

    So they have been losing games to their opponents.

    That’s what slumps are.

    Here’s the good news.

    Teams come out of slumps.

    Stay upset if you need to.

  1766. Fire Michael Kay June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Cliff, you broughty up those 4 world series.

    also, to compare the patriots to the yankees is the biggest insult to the yankees.

  1767. Going Nowhere Fast June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    “You can’t just enjoy the moment.”

    No, I’m not going to enjoy the moment of getting beaten by a .250 team.

  1768. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    of course

  1769. jockomac June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    This is getting to be RI-GOD-DAMN-DICULOUS!!!

  1770. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    They don’t boo swish?

  1771. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    where are the boos?

  1772. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Cano:

    Men on Base: .268
    No Men On: .343

    And Swisher kills it.

  1773. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Comeback magic seems to be over for now. :(

  1774. RS June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Are you kidding me??

  1775. daver June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    another rally killing dp. nice.

  1776. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    REALLY?!?

  1777. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Pathetic.

    THIS GUY CANNOT THROW A STRIKE. What does boneheaded Swisher do? He swings at ball 4 in a 3-1 count when he isn’t even the tying run.

    Girardi has no guts if he lets Nick Swisher continue to go out there with no consequences while he makes mental mistake after mental mistake.

  1778. tyler June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    EMBARRASSING!!

  1779. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Wow…

  1780. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Nationals > Yankees

  1781. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    No home runs today wow. Who would have thought.

  1782. tex's friend June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    wow…

  1783. sunny615 June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Wow this team has reached new depths of suckitude.

  1784. daver June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Loosing 2 out of 3 to the Nationals at home is PITIFUL.

  1785. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    lol

  1786. Benny Blanco June 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    oK SO THEY BOO ALEX AND NOT SWISH?? These fans are the worst..

  1787. Patrick June 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    This is inexcusable and really quite pathetic.

  1788. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    This game again is on the offense. The pitching staff only gave up 3 runs. The entire offense shut down.

  1789. 12345 June 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    FIRE EVERYONE NOW!!!!!

  1790. vito b June 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    “The washington nationals throw their first shutout of the year” the yankees score a total of 8 runs in the whole series against the worst team in baseball.

  1791. tim boat June 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    FIRE GIRARDI

  1792. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    First game ever no HRs where hit at new Yankee Stadium.

  1793. Drew June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    wow.

  1794. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    This was positively awful. The Yankees should never loose a series to the Nationals. Let’s hope the Yankees get their act together quickly.

  1795. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Where is Hank when you need him.

  1796. Pel June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    >This is getting to be RI-GOD-DAMN-DICULOUS!!!

    It’s over, Johnny.

    IT’S OVER!!!!

  1797. Baseball Fab June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Look at the bright side, first time EVER not a HR in the new park, so they cannot call us a bandbox anymore

  1798. Donnie - Will Meet Corey Patterson Under the O'Neill Banner June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Look, guys, I understand wanting to be positive…but there’s no reason to be at this point. Honestly. Like Pete said, they’ve actively WON 2 games in their last 9 (because the game against the Mets, while counting as a W, was not a win on our part, it was a Mets loss), and the guys that have shut them down are NOT good pitchers.

    Honestly, I’ve tried…But I really can’t see this team going anywhere in the playoffs.

  1799. Matt June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    How anyone can defend the team after this series is appalling.

    It’s one series, but nobody cares. They lost a series to the NATIONALS, a team that might go on to be the worst team EVER, at HOME. That’s beyond embarrassing.

    They could win the next 10 in the row, and it won’t change the fact that they lost a series to the NATIONALS, at HOME. Stop deluding yourselves and think of how disgraceful that is.

  1800. daver June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Swisher is starting to annoy me. He makes a lot of blunders on the basepaths.

  1801. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    I think I’ll leave now and hope the slump ends soon. I’d rather not see people go crazy over losing baseball games.

  1802. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Fire Michael Kay,

    I was not comparing the Yanks to the Patriots. I was simply saying that most of the people here complaining and saying things are “unacceptable” were not fans of the team when they were perennial losers. No one can deny that the Yanks have gained a whole bunch of fans since the 90′s, many of which it seems flock to this board.

    Is this frustrating, of course it is. But bad teams sometime beat good teams.

  1803. frank b June 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    i hope when i wake up tomorow morning, joe has been FIRED. good nite all

  1804. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Swish with the DP…

    Matsui making it ride…

    Almost, not enough…

  1805. Serf June 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Well…that was embarrassing. But look at the bright side…actually…don’t. There is none. It’s rained 14 out of 18 days in June, Gardener is hurt, A-Rod is sucking big time, we can’t hit well against the Nationals, Joba’s fastball is fast anymore, and we’re going 9 straight games DH-less.

    Got a little carried away there.

  1806. igotid88 June 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    I hope this is the Yankees rock bottom.

  1807. sunny615 June 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    The nationals have shut out the Yankees… I think I just threw up in my mouth…

    This team should be embarrassed of themselves. Just awful pathetic and horrible.

  1808. Johan Halladay - When OPPC comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it June 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    We almost tied the game yesterday, and we almost won today.

    Let’s try again tomorrow.

  1809. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    This loss was shameful.

    The Red Sox deserve to win the division if their biggest rivals can’t win a single game to them and have lost to a team that was on pace to come close to the 62 Mets as the worst team of all time.

  1810. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    First game without a home run at the new stadium I believe.

  1811. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Did he say Landshark Stadium?????

    That’s a joke, right?

  1812. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    stuart, why can’t you blame Posada for his defense? It’s a defensive position, right? If an outfielder can’t catch the ball, he helps the team lose. I don’t see how that is any different that what catchers do. They play defense as well.

  1813. Dave June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Hey all you OPPC people – can we panic NOW?

  1814. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Time to DH Sabathia in Yankee Stadium with the new revamped short porch in right!

  1815. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Serf-You got that right.

    But wait! Ironically the offense, the strength of the team, was shut down by the Nationals. but our bullpen, our weakness, was totally lights out.

  1816. Yanks_Fan June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    So we are back to April Yankees baseball. Wow, they suck pretty much to lose a series to the Nationals and practically never show up. Horrible and uninspired baseball since they were swept by Boston. And we keep the roller-coaster season.

  1817. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    oh well,let the media feast on this one!

  1818. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    this needs to be rock bottom…this has to be the low point of the season and everything has to be better here on out….unless they dont want to make the playoffs…

  1819. Sean Serritella June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    LOL @ Johan.

  1820. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    d I do not have the baseball package this yr. imagine this slop..

    you mean boo phi betta kappa swisher, the baserunning legend. he learned from maury wills how to run the bases.. you mean 241 swisher, with a high obp but last night watching stirke 3 go right by him with a man on 2nd no outs.

    arod at 212 or so, he looks lost like the little weak minded person he is. then you have the prodigy Joba doing his 5 or 6 inning 100 pitch usual nonsenes. this staff walked johny bench nieves 2 times tonight…

    the millionaires are not use to working overtime. johny damon who thinks it is a either good strategy or funny to break at least 1 bat a game and probably more..

    wow what a pathetic effort this is on par to the sweep the mariners laid on them years ago when they won a ton of games during the regular season and pinella was the manager…

    another big night with RISP…. what about 6 for the last 60 or so, does tha tsound about right???????

  1821. RS June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    I’m way more upset with yesterday’s loss than today’s. Today the Yankees did nothing. Yesterday was very winnable, however.

  1822. NYY626 June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    There is an obvious explanation for this. All of the Nationals were on the verge of suicide. God had to intervene and do something to pick up their spirits.

  1823. Jeff in MA June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Here’s hoping this series looked back upon as the rock bottom low point of the season.

    Oogh.

  1824. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    And maybe this will be a good learning experience for some of you. Even bad teams win games.

    You could always email Joe Torre and ask how he dealt with it when his first place Dodgers lost to the Nats on the Dodgers home field.

  1825. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    “well, we never saw the pitcher before” stuff and other excuses have to end.”

    pete, you have now twice alluded to the yanks not using the video room to study pitchers they’ve never seen. Will you FINALLY ask Girardi what he meant when he said some of his guys “didn’t want to know” what a pitcher they’d never seen throws, and if it means they don’t want to watch video, why doesn’t Girardi MAKE THEM at this point? It is clear that something is wrong. This is a pattern. Both Damon and Girardi admitted it is a problem. and I know that sometimes they hit guys like this, but far too often they don’t. A team full of “all-stars” should not continually get shut down by scrubs that the rest of baseball beats like a dusty rug.

  1826. Trevor June 18th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Epic Fail all around in this series no doubt about it. :|

  1827. DC 212 June 18th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Guys, stop ripping on Swisher

    He has a cool haircut and a great personality. Just leave him alone.

  1828. m June 18th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Is there a fat lady singing somewhere? Yuck, what a game.

    I’m not so concerned about losing this series.

    I’m more more concerned that we’ve lost 6 of our last 9.

    Hopefully, the guys can look at each other and realize that they just lost a series to the worst team in baseball. And get after it a bit.

    I can deal with good pitching against us. But I can’t deal with giving away outs on both sides of the ball.

    Need to sharpen up the defense a little. Pitching’s been decent actually. The offense will come back. And for heaven’s sake, stop running into outs.

    Hope GGBG will be okay. Say what you will, but the kid gives us his all. I’m expecting a call from you to the kid, Cashman.

  1829. mmx June 18th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Johan Halladay:
    “We almost tied the game yesterday, and we almost won today.”

    Are we watching the same game?

  1830. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    sean sertella blame posada for not blocking balls or not throwing enough guys out that is legit.

    blaming him for joba nibbling and not throwing strikes is just stupid.

    can you comprehend the difference moron??????

  1831. Clark June 18th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    The heat HAS to be on Girardi now.

    Almost 2 weeks we have been playing this pathetic baseball. Sox are starting to pull away. Rays are red hot. Jays are not going away. Angels are 1 game behind us in the wild card.

    Girardi had a grace period because of the hot streak we were on. That grace period has come to an end. Heat is on now. Start winning some series, stop looking so lazy and unprepared, and get the ship righted. If you can’t, then Tony Pena will get an opportunity to do so.

  1832. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    phrase-2 of 3?

  1833. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Wonder when Girardi is going to lose it and pull a Sweet Lou on some reporter?

  1834. Papa Smurf June 18th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Swisher as some great at bats and see’s a lot of pitches. But it seems like every game he is making foolish decisions on the bases.

  1835. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Can we look at it from the point of view that maybe the Nats were just due?

  1836. vtred June 18th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Cashman won’t call Gardner. He just said yesterday the team is better with Melky and Swisher, not Gardner lol

  1837. Mo'sflatcutter June 18th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    “Here’s one to watch. FLATCUTTER comes and goes like the wind. Takes off when the slop sox are losing. Shows up when the Yankees are losing. Takes off when they are winning. Can’t stay and say much if Yanks are losing and slop sox are losing too.”

    Do you want me to gloat even more?

    Do you want me to rub it in that the Yanks can’t score a single run off the Nats?

    My post tonight came when Boston was losing.

    The Sox/Yankee rivalry is terrific for the game. But the next time they meet won’t even be important if NY doesn’t start holding guys accountable (Swisher) for subpar play.

    And whichever goofball that brought rasicm into the equation last night and today should look at the heat Swisher is taking…and it’s deserved.

  1838. Dave June 18th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Erica-

    No.

  1839. Serf June 18th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Michael Kay: “Yankees don’t begin to start playing until the 6th inning.”

    I’ve haven’t heard anything so true in a while. 100% true and they’ve been doing it for too long.

  1840. robbie -- "FIRE CASHMAN...FOR THE LOVE OF BASEBALL GODS!!!" June 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    I want major heads to roll……… Fire at least 2 people…..

  1841. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    We were so favored to SWEEP.

    To be shut out is a total disgrace.

  1842. RS June 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    If you want to look at the bright side, our bullpen looks really good now. Hughes, Robertson, Aceves, Coke, and Bruney have all been great.

    That’s about it, though. This is one even YES can’t sugarcoat.

  1843. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Why is everyone saying the Red Sox are pulling away?

    If Boston ends up losing tonight, they will be 3 games up with 60% of the season to go? Please explain how that constitues pulling away.

  1844. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Why is everyone saying the Red Sox are pulling away?

    If Boston ends up losing tonight, they will be 3 games up with 60% of the season to go? Please explain how that constitues pulling away.

  1845. ooogah boogah June 18th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    As Brian Fellows would say “Thats Crazy”.
    Terrible when guys like Nieves,Villone,Guzman,Gonzalez beat ya.

  1846. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    This is an embarrassment, and if the team doesn’t show up in Florida, guys on this coaching staff might be on the chopping block.

  1847. pat June 18th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    How long do they wait to call the game in Boston for rain so the Yanks don’t at least lose more ground tonight?

  1848. Ron June 18th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    These guys are all getting paid millions of dollars. You think they care if they lose a series?

    This is just a game to them. We don’t make the playoffs, no biggie.

    CC goes back to his mansion in San Fran.
    A-Rod goes back to his mansion and Kate Hudson in Miami
    Jeter goes to the South Pacific with Minka
    Teix goes back to his Dallas mansion
    Cano and Melky go back and party in the DR

    etc.

    You fans are much more emotionally invested in it than the players are. The sooner you realize that and stop exerting so much energy following this team and realize it is a GAME and entertainment, the better you will be for it.

    Some of the posts here are unreal. It’s just a game guys.

  1849. Wang Woohoo June 18th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Suddenly Wang’s start yesterday doesn’t seem so bad.
    But this is the Yankees, and this a Yankees comment thread for Yankees fans, so therefore:

    Joba was simply awful! Joba should be sent down to make room for Hughes. It’s time to call Joba’s career what it is: SOOOO OVER!!!

  1850. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Hey flatcutter,

    This is a Yankees site. Get away and leave us alone. Obviously we don’t want to discuss w/the likes of you.

  1851. Rose June 18th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    “We almost tied the game yesterday, and we almost won today.”
    Which means we lost against the WORST team in baseball. A team with 16 wins.

    Losing against the Red Sox, a top team, is one thing. Losing against the Nats is pitiful.

    Let’s hear the excuse Girard’s got.

  1852. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Cliff-IF they lose.

  1853. Viper 77 June 18th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    We get to face some guy name Sean West tomorrow?

    Who?

    7 shutout innings. We lose 3-2. Oh wait, Andy is going. We lose 6-2.

  1854. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Cliff…you maybe right, but thus is when the Yankees are supposed to be picking up games.

  1855. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    I can hear it now:

    “Sometimes you have to tip your cap to the opposing pitcher”

    The almighty Craig Stammen?

  1856. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Well said Ron. A little perspective would go a long way on this board.

  1857. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    “phrase-2 of 3?”

    What don’t you understand about team slumps??? It could have been 3 of 3! How long have you been watching baseball? Do you watch just the Yankees or other teams? Maybe it’s because I’ve been watching for a long time and not just the Yankees. I’ve watched just about every team go cold at one time or another in the season. And when you’re cold it almost doesn’t matter who you face!

    You never get a promise that all of your bats aren’t going to go cold at once or that people aren’t going to start to press.

    I guess it’s because I’ve been a student of the game for a while that this stuff is all part of it to me. No surprises when teams slump. It happens.

  1858. 86w183 June 18th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    This better be the low point of the season because it doesn’t get much lower than this. The offense in this series could not have been worse and Washington made every defensive play imaginable.

    It’s also time for everyone who touts Joba as a starter (including me) to re-evaluate their attitudes. The guy is obviously pacing himself and has gone from dominant set up man to solid, but not at all special starter. For some f-ing reason he won’t throw his fastball which is why the velocity keeps dropping.

    He’s now made 25 starts and gone more than 6 inings five times. That’s not dominant… that’s barely good

  1859. Clint June 18th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Figures that when the bullpen and rotation start stepping up, we forget how to hit the baseball.

    Is this team ever going to click on all 3 phases at the same time? Or will our inconsistency just drag us down?

  1860. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Erica – I guess Nieve from the mets was just due the other day too. At some point, you have to start asking why the same stuff keeps happening over and over to a team that has this much talent. Why is it that nearly every game we look up on the scoreboard and it’s the 6th inning and the Yanks have 2 or 3 hits?

  1861. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    LOL Francessa guranteed we win today.

  1862. Drive 4-5 June 18th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    I dont even want to think about going to work tomorrow. All the Red Sox fans there will have a field day with this one. The worst thing is, I’ll have no comeback. The Yanks were lucky to win on Tuesday. Only 1 word describes this series. Inexcusable.

  1863. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Joba in the 8th inning doesn’t do much good either if the team is scoreless.

  1864. Ralph June 18th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Joba is a mess.

    He is pitching like Tom Glavine. He is supposed to be a flame thrower.

    Time to give up this starters gig. Go out and sign Pedro and put him in the rotation. Joba back to the 8th inning.

  1865. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    well, if they can move A-Rod down to the 6th or 7th spot, that would be a start! Let him work out of his whatever, down there

  1866. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    phrase-But the Washington Nationals? Come on, slump, no slump, whatever, that is really pathetic.

    But the good news is that we saved Manny Acta’s career.

  1867. Mr Scott June 18th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    This Team needs a spark fire Girardi…. Arod 8 more years were screwed!!!!!!!!!!!

  1868. Harper M June 18th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Ron

    June 18th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    These guys are all getting paid millions of dollars. You think they care if they lose a series?

    This is just a game to them. We don’t make the playoffs, no biggie.

    CC goes back to his mansion in San Fran.
    A-Rod goes back to his mansion and Kate Hudson in Miami
    Jeter goes to the South Pacific with Minka
    Teix goes back to his Dallas mansion
    Cano and Melky go back and party in the DR

    etc.

    You fans are much more emotionally invested in it than the players are. The sooner you realize that and stop exerting so much energy following this team and realize it is a GAME and entertainment, the better you will be for it.

    Some of the posts here are unreal. It’s just a game guys.

    ———————————

    Best post of the night. Everyone should read this before they flip out and curse after every loss. As hard as it may be, people need to stop becoming so attached to this team and let it control their life.

  1869. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Wait till they…., And if they win they will be 4 games out with 60% of the season to play. that is certaintaly not running away with the division either.

    Vadar, They should absolutely be picking up games when playing the worst team in baseball but it is a slump and being in the position they are in is not a terrible thing. A lot can happen in a month or 2

  1870. vey June 18th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Over the years I thought I’d seen every way the Yankees could lose. *This one,playing this team,really stings* .
    The Marlins are better than the Nats,and should be interesting having the Pitchers bat.

  1871. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    What did any of you expect? Team arrives at 10-11 AM for a game delayed until almost seven. Not even the Yankee ghosts are going to stick around that long to bail this team out!

    Wang should not be pitching in a NL park-Braves-next week, where he can get hurt batting or running the bases. If there’s a time to uveruse CC it’s now-just like having the DH in NL.

  1872. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Wait Til They Come. Seriously how long have you watched baseball?

  1873. sunny615 June 18th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Pitiful… so sad.

  1874. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Cliff, you misunderstand. RUNNING awau, not ran away. As in they’re hot, we’re not, and they’re getting further and further from us.

  1875. Gold Mine June 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    “But the good news is that we saved Manny Acta’s career.”

    Yankees are a very charitable bunch. They save jobs, and give rookie and journeyman pitchers confidence.

    They even helped raise Brad Penny’s trade value. They’ve done the kind deed of allowing the Angels to be right there with us for the wild card and left the door open for the Rays as well.

    They seem to be helping everyone else except themselves.

  1876. pat June 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Ron

    I agree with the general sentiment of enjoy the entertainment but I do think they care if they win or not.

    They don’t work as hard as they do in season and in the off season to not care about winning. It may not always look like it and it might not be a popular concept tonight in particular but I think they have a competitive fire.

  1877. Boston Dave - OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    “Hey all you OPPC people – can we panic NOW?”

    ————-

    the Yanks are still in line for the playoffs, if not the division.

    so…. no you should not (though technically you can if you really feel like it)

  1878. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    phrase, come on, I’ve watched for ten years, and losing a series to the Washington Nationals is nothing short of embarassing.

  1879. AZBob June 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Well stated Pete.

  1880. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    God does this fanbase whine :?

  1881. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    “How long do they wait to call the game in Boston for rain so the Yanks don’t at least lose more ground tonight?”

    It’s in Boston? If they were ahead, they would have called it as soon as the first cloud hit the radar screen. The Sawx are behind? They’ll wait till next season if they have to…

  1882. FIRE GIRARDI!!! June 18th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    How many times I’ve said that – FIRE GIRARDI!!! HE’S CLUELESS FOR GOD’S SAKE!!!

  1883. HA! June 18th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Great job by the Yankees today. It makes me so proud to know they tried hard to beat the Nationals.

    There is no excuse for this. None. There is no explaining away that this is baseball, a team that has as much talent as the Yankees supposedly does may drop one game against a team like the Nationals, not two.

    Too bad George isn’t in charge anymore. Heads would be rolling for this, and they should be.

  1884. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    phrase, this is from Pete:

    “The Yankees just scored seven runs in 26 innings against the worst pitching staff in baseball — two in the last 18. It’s an embarrassment. The Nationals came to New York planning to fire their manager and took two of three. Brutal.

    The Nationals were 16-45 when they showed up. They had lost 25 of 30. The Yankees mailed it in for three days and that falls on the manager. Even the game they won was a no-show job for six innings. “

  1885. Jon June 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    You think the Sux are going to lose even a game to this pathetic team?

    And the only reason the Rays lost 2\3 is because they had some weird interleague schedule which sent them to Colorado, who si the hottest team in the league. When they get back to playing the NL East, they are going to destroy them.

    Jays swept Philly, they are going to sweep Wash. next.

    We’re falling behind,

  1886. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    I don’t need to see that Gardner replay anymore.

    By the way, and for the record, as optimistic and positive a person as I try to be here, this series was a huge disappointment. Logically, I know they’re in a slump and they’ll come out of the slump. But still, this was one of those series you felt confident going in, 2 out of 3 surely with an outside shot at a sweep.

    Someone asked earlier today how people felt about the Yankees team at this point in time. For me, I would say in general the Yankees are a good team. But there have been many disappointments, most of them centering around the starting pitching, which was supposed to be a strength.

  1887. sonia June 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    dear trisha … posing as phrase , i thought the sox were supposed to go into a freefall after sweeping the yanks! go cry to pete to get me banned from lohud! he he he

  1888. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Girardi on YES now, can’t wait to hear about what he has to say

  1889. Aura June 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Hey Harper, they have their mansions and their hot girlfriends but this is all we have. I guess I should work on getting a mansion and a hot girlfriend but until then, Go Yankees?

  1890. Vader June 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Cliff…I know just a hard game to watch.

    At least I went to the one game they one this series.

  1891. Bronx Jeers June 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Yankees slay teams, then…

    A three sweep by some blowhards

    Testes retracting?

  1892. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Dave June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Hey all you OPPC people – can we panic NOW?

    ==============================

    If you want to, go ahead. No one is stopping you.
    Which one are you?

    http://www.blueherald.com/uplo.....h_noes.gif

  1893. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    aaah watching Krod blow another save is nice

  1894. Brandon ! "B/C I SUPPORT ROBI CANO !" June 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    K-Rod just blew a save

  1895. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    I look at it this way-

    Teams like the Nats don’t have a whole lot to hope for in terms of their season. They gear up to beat the teams that would mean a lot to them. Teams gear up to beat the Yankees. Its a big deal to them. These guys who have nothing to lose and everything to strive for- are going to come out with their A game knowing a major market and many scouts are watching. This is their chance to get noticed. And hello- you are still talking about that guy who pitched last night.

  1896. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Doreen, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

  1897. RS June 18th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    I hope Gardner isn’t too badly hurt. Like Kay said, we could really use his speed when we go play in NL parks.

  1898. Bryan June 18th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    C’mon OPPC blindfolded losers defend this pathetic team

    Try me with your the Yankees faced a team with pitchers who had good stuff bull crap

    Cmon now keep spinning your idiocy

  1899. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    they’re asking if Joba has lost velocity?

    Girardi says I don’t think so..

    what? of course he has! He’s not throwing fb!

  1900. vb03 June 18th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    The Nationals haven’t won a series in a month.

    They haven’t shut out an opponent all year.

    They have won a road series ONCE.

    Their manager was on the chopping block.

    They have the worst team ERA in baseball.

    They have the worst record in baseball.

    They have ONE SP with an ERA below 4.5.

    They were hitting .222 in Interleague prior to this series.

    They have a .307 batting average against on the road.

    Teams are hitting .293 off their pitchers with RISP.

  1901. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Are you all too young to remember the run the Yankees had in the 90s? Those were the years that the Yankees were winning the world series all those years.

    Detroit was a terrible team those years. But the Yankees just couldn’t beat them. There was only one Yankee pitcher that could beat Detroit. Steinbrenner was crazed over it and was screaming about it in the press all the time. But it didn’t matter. Detroit owned the Yankees.

    Those years the Yankees still won the world series.

    Don’t worry about the Nats. This too shall pass.

  1902. Swish Bats June 18th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    The Nationals are on pace to be the worst team in baseball history.

    They had SIX road wins coming into today. They are 30 games under 500 and have played a little over 60 games this season.

    This is not some bad team that is scrappy like the old Devil Rays or something. This team is historically bad. About to fire their manager. And they come in here and take 2\3 and shut us down.

    That scrub MacDougle saves 2 games against us… his first 2 saves in almost 3 years. Embarrassing any way you slice it.

  1903. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Girardi isn’t going to talk about the lack of hitting??? hmmm, that’s not going to work in NY JoE!

  1904. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    “Some of the posts here are unreal. It’s just a game guys.”

    You are absolutely right. That’s the reason I pity the people who bought season tickets, spending dollar upon dollar to sit in the rain, to watch millionaires get shut out by the worst pitching staff in the league, when they could have purchased the MLB.TV package, sat in the comfort of their own home, and turned off the game at any time!!

  1905. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Bryan-It’s not idiocy, it’s their opinion.

  1906. Erica - newly OPPC June 18th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    new thread- get off this slow one

  1907. M June 18th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    What a terible job by the NYY. An embarrassment? What are they saying in the clubhouse? I do not want to hear excuses from the players and don’t expect to but I especially do not want to hear excuses from Girardi.

    I hope they fire him and then CASHman follows at seasons end.

    They are a joke! I cannot wait until Matsui is not the automatic DH.

    The Rays are better and will eventually pass us and win the wildcard.

  1908. Dutch Hugo June 18th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Can this team feel shame? If so, maybe some good will come of this.

  1909. Cliff June 18th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Vadar, a very hard game to watch! At least you saw a win. I am actually 6 for 6 this year in going to games and seeing wins.

  1910. Carl June 18th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Mets get walked off lol Bruney all up in Krods head.

  1911. *Denise* June 18th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Joe feels good about our bullpen

  1912. Mo'sflatcutter June 18th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    “Hey flatcutter,

    This is a Yankees site. Get away and leave us alone. Obviously we don’t want to discuss w/the likes of you.”

    wait till they come to OUR house…LOL! The lowly, last place Nationals came to YOUR HOUSE and kicked your lethargic butts.

  1913. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house, I can’t tell you not to be upset. Be as upset as you want to. Knock yourself out.

    I’ve seen the Yankees lose to bottom place teams plenty of times. I guess you forgot about how the Rays then the Devil Rays owned the Yankees and they were losing 100 games a season.

    You need to get bent out of shape and act like this is the first time in the history of baseball a bottom place team plays really well, knock yourself out.

  1914. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house, I can’t tell you not to be upset. Be as upset as you want to. Knock yourself out.

    I’ve seen the Yankees lose to bottom place teams plenty of times. I guess you forgot about how the Rays then the Devil Rays owned the Yankees and they were losing 100 games a season.

    You need to get bent out of shape and act like this is the first time in the history of baseball a bottom place team plays really well, knock yourself out.

  1915. Yankee Trader June 18th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    “Yankees slay teams, then…

    A three sweep by some blowhards

    Testes retracting?”

    Of course they are. That’s what happens with anabolic steroids. Testes retract, head swells. Who said they need blood and urine tests. Just use a flexible tape measure!

  1916. Jack June 18th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Is A-Rod the next Ortiz??

  1917. Ed H. June 18th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    It’s a long season. This too shall pass.

    The Yanks are a very good team. They will make the playoffs. I’ve been watching them for almost 50 years now.

    Relax. Life is too short.

  1918. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    flatcutter,

    You didn’t respond to my post. We ALL HATE YOU. LEAVE US ALONE.

  1919. BBFan June 18th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    “The Yankees mailed it in for three days and that falls on the manager.”

    Here comes the Girardi hatred.
    Must be waiting for so long not getting the opportunity to do this.

    When Wang stinks it is not Wang’s fault. But, Girardi is at fault for waht happened recently. Some consitency will givee credibility, but not to this one.

  1920. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    phrase-I posted what Pete said.

  1921. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    I know the Yankees could end up all right. But right now they’re not and this is the lowlight of the season.

  1922. jockomac June 18th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    What a joke!!!

    I’m really getting tired of watching this listless and impassive team just go through the motions. They made Lanaan and Stammen look like Beckett and Schilling.

    An absolute disgrace and shameful.

    Teams do go through slumps but good teams don’t lose 2 of 3 to the worst team in baseball. Those are the teams you have to beat.

  1923. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Wait, Pete Abe doesn’t always get it right. If he doesn’t know about slumps or think the Yankees are in one I don’t know what to say.

    I asked you last night and I will ask again. If we all email Pete Abve and ask him to get rid of the troll Flatcutter he will. He’s not big on trolls and definitely not big on trolls that pretend they Yankee fans and come here to just make trouble. If you don’t want to have that garbage posted here during games, email Pete.

    Thanks.

  1924. Jonah Falcon June 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Girardi’s postgame in a nutshell:

    That’s kind of a bad play there which are so inherently symptomatic of a losing team. The mind is a strange thing, men. We must begin by asking it, “What is losing?” Losing is a disease as contagious as polio. Losing is a disease, as contagious as syphilis. Losing is a disease as contagious as bubonic plague, attacking one but infecting all. But curable. Now, I want you to imagine you are on a ship at sea… on a vast sea …gently rocking…

    …gently rocking…

    …gently rocking…

    …gently rocking…

  1925. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    “Teams do go through slumps but good teams don’t lose 2 of 3 to the worst team in baseball. Those are the teams you have to beat.”

    jock I’ll say it again. The Yankees constantly lost seasons series to Detroit and KC when they were last place teams. That meant losing more than 2 of 3. They still were there in the end. Same with losing to the Rays when they were terrible.

    I’m not saying it’s fun.

  1926. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Good idea about flatcutter phrase.

  1927. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Thanks, Wait. Just let him know that FLATCUTTER told us he was a Yankee fan a few games ago and last night said he was a Sox fan and all he does is come here to insult the Yankees and cause trouble during games. He’ll be gone for good.

  1928. Doris from Rego park June 18th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    They need to fire Kevin Long and Dave Eisland. Immediately. The NY Yankees are now offically a punchline. And all you people who say “look at the bright side they are leading the wild-card” etc need to get a grip on reality. This team has a 200MM+ playroll and it cant hit or pitch particularly well. They cant beat scrub pitchers and their pitchers cant get out of the 5th inning for the most part. Guess what- Managers and coaches get fired all the time. The Rockies fired their manager and won 11 in a row. I dont think they should fire Girardi (yet) but someone needs to take a fall and unfortunately you cant fire Andy Petite (who only cares about getting paid). For some reason Kevin Long is deity on here and I dont care what SJ44 says, he and Eisland need to go. And you can call me an idiot all you want, its bound to happen. Its a shame that George Steinbrenner is sitting somewhere staring off into space with an old wool blanket draped over his legs becuase if he was around people might take some pride in the uniform that they out on every night.

    And to Jobba- quit reading your press clippings becuase as of right now you are nothing more than average pitcher with a flat 91mph fastball and an overrated slider.

  1929. phrase - IGNORE THE RED SOX TROLL NAMED FLATCUTTER June 18th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    See you tomorrow Wait. Hopefully we’ll start coming out of the coma.

  1930. KLev June 18th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Set fire to something. Get fired up. Fire someone.

  1931. Wait till they come to OUR house June 18th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    See ya phrase.

  1932. stuart June 18th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    i think sonia is right! phrase is trisha! i have to laugh…

  1933. mark June 18th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Nah. Phrase was around a few seasons ago for a while. Trisha wasn’t. Besides Trisha would be kicking complainers in the nuts. Phrase was more rational about it.

  1934. Uncle Tito June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Yanks have been struggling since AROD’s been slumping.

    No matter how much some fans hate him, he is the straw that stirs the Yankees offense. When he is on, Yanks are a different team. And everybody in the lineup benefits from his presence.

  1935. JimDC June 18th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    I wish I could ask Girardi why in the first inning he chose to pitch to Dunn with a man on 2nd and first base open with right-handed Kearns (.201) on deck.

  1936. Mike June 19th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    I don’t know why some of you are making the excuse that the rain delay effected joba tonight. Look at the other kid that face them tonight, he had to wait through the same delay just like joba. I can’t stand when ever joba has a sub-par outting or loses excuses are made for him especially by girardi. It always from girardi “oh don’t think he looks comfortable out there or his motion didn’t look right”. My question is why are all these excuses always made for joba? You don’t see excuse being made for CC, Wang, AJ, Andy or Hughes when they pitch bad. Joba has done nothing as a starter to earn that right. Joba thus far has been overrated as a starter. The yanks act like just because he was dominate in the pen he will be a dominate starter. Now his numbers in the minors were good but pitching in scranton is much different then pitching in new york. Face it joba has basically been 5 inning pitcher. What worse is his whip is 1.44 and since becoming a starter last year his whip is 1.6. Joba has also lost that same swagger he had coming out of the bullpen. He had was unhittable and he knew it. The opposition doesn’t fear him anynore. Now there is still time to fix that. It can all be fixed by putting joba back in the bullpen and putting hughes in the rotation. With joba in the pen the yanks can go 7,8,9 with bruney, joba and mo. Plus in the long run i think hughes will be a much better starter than joba because he is more efficent in throwing strikes and seems to be able to go deeper. I think hughes will become for us what Mike pelfrey is for the mets. Now i know the yanks will say they can’t do that because of wang. The only way to fix wang is to keep sending him out there every 5 day. Putting wang in the pen does nothing to help his confidence and doing that will never bring back the old chien ming wang. This would put all 3 of those guys in the spot were they belong and were they each help the team in the best possible way. Also everyone keeps saying we need help in the pen. The pen would be helped big time by putting joba were he was at his best. Some people think we should try to trade for guys like huston street, chad qualls or jose valverde. Trust none of those guy are as good as joba would be again if he would be put back in the pen. My opinion of those 3 guys is that street has alway been an overrated closer, qualls is a control guy not a strike out artist and valverde reminds me to much of latroy hawkins. Plus i can’t stand valverde’s antics. Finally, have all of you just forgotten about 1996? The main reason the yanks won the title that year is because they had the ability to make every game a six inning ballgame. Mo pitched the seven and eighth innings and wettland shut the door in the nighth. We could have the same thing with bruney in the 7th, Joba in the 8th and Mo in the 9th. We had that 3 man group together to start the year last season and it was a mistake for the yanks to brake that up, especially after bruney got hurt. It lets the old saying when its not broken don’t fix it. Joba has always said he would do anything that help the team win and doesn’t care what role he is in. I don’t know what the rest of you think but if torre was still the manager i think joba would be still in the bullpen. Joe Torre said back on the day joba got his first save that he believes he should be the next closer after Mo. The only reason i think girardi got hire is because girardi said he could fixed farnsworth. Now farnsworth has the same stuff as joba but is not half the reliever joba is. This back to the arguement i made earlier would you rather have a guys that is a 5 inning pitcher at the most will tax the bullpen or have that same guys has been the most dominated eighth inning starter in the game over the last 2 years?

  1937. Johnny D. June 19th, 2009 at 1:53 am

    “Remember when I said the Yankees can’t play in bad weather? I honestly don’t think they’ll win this one.”

    I was right.

  1938. AJ from princeton June 19th, 2009 at 3:49 am

    get it through your heads ——-

    joba is over rated

    giradi blows and needs to be replaced

    arod is a loser

    i rout for these people cause i love the team but still

  1939. Rick June 19th, 2009 at 7:36 am

    joba is a goose gossage. he is a better reliever than a starter.

  1940. Sarah June 19th, 2009 at 7:39 am

    Stuart: Who died and made you god. You are the worst fan I have encountered on this web site. You resort to name calling to justify your point. Stupid, moron, are such a part of your vocabulary. Did it occur to you that other people may think the same of you. Stop being a g.d. bully.

  1941. Sarah June 19th, 2009 at 7:47 am

    Mike: Give me a break on your diatribe against Joba. I can hardly wait until the end of the season to tell you – I told you so. Didn’t you post this same verbage on Yankee.com. Joba has been in the bigs since late 07 – he deserves as many chances as the other young guys. Aces just don’t show up glove in hand and say “here I am”. They need to be nurtured for the future.

  1942. Sarah June 19th, 2009 at 8:06 am

    stuart
    June 18th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    sean sertella blame posada for not blocking balls or not throwing enough guys out that is legit.

    blaming him for joba nibbling and not throwing strikes is just stupid.

    can you comprehend the difference moron??????
    =======================================================
    Just an example of Stuart’s creativity. Stupid & moron again.

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    Have you guys played evony yet? What do you think? evony.com

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