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Athletic trainers honor Monahan

Peter Abraham
June
20

Yankees head athletic trainer Gene Monahan missed the game on Friday.

He had a very good reason. “Geno” was in San Antonio being honored with the “Most Distinguished Athletic Trainer Award” by the National Athletic Trainer’s Association at their annual convention.

Monahan has been with the Yankees for 47 seasons and has been the head trainer for 37.

Congratulations to him.

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73 Responses to “Athletic trainers honor Monahan”

  1. Lorenzo

    Carl Pavano just threw up in his mouth a little bit

  2. Carl

    lol

  3. Jack Clark greatest Yankee ever

    Monahan is a bum

  4. Joey's Poodle

    Pete — good, I’ve been having a trainer-related question for you since yesterday.

    You seemed to imply that even after AR asked out, Girardi ignored his request and put him in the lineup until Cashman got involved in the discussion, then took him out for two days.

    Where was the training staff in this? You don’t mention any input from that sector.

    Don’t they routinely keep the manager informed about who’s too worn down to play?

    Even if they didn’t routinely do this, wouldn’t it be part of the normal follow-up on a guy post-surgery? Especially if he’s underperforming?

    Seems like that’s a part of the AR story we haven’t heard about yet. Maybe you could check for us?

  5. EricNS

    Congrats to Geno – how can anyone call him a bum

  6. ditmars1929

    Great management of A-Rod’s hip too.

  7. Carl

    Hes a trainer not a doctor

  8. Jackson Melian big time bust

    Albaladejo has only one BB in 12+ innings in Scranton. If they aren’t going to bring up Melancon, I’ll support a recall of Alba and a release of Tomko. Tomko is garbage and will blow up soon enough.

  9. Jack Clark greatest Yankee ever

    Monahan should be DFA’d for the purpose of giving him his unconditional release

  10. sevrox

    Monahan’s an excellent trainer and the acknowledgement is well worth it. He’s been with the Yanks since I’ve been following them – although seeing him waddle out to CF to see to Gardner was a bit worrisome…

    There go Yank fans, trying to find something more (Arod) than is probably there and blaming Monahan for all their troubles. Go figure. You and the New York media go well together.

    Let’s see if Mr. .500 can do something today with those awesome 2 pitches. Let’s hope the Yankees Santana-ize Johnson today.

  11. randy l.

    “When things aren’t going well, he’s more receptive to the feedback we give him. All our work has been geared toward throwing strikes with his fastball down in the zone. We saw him throw a lot of fastballs over the middle of the plate.”

    this is john farrell , the red sox pitching coach talking about trying to fix matsuzaka who is as big a problem for the red sox as chien ming wang had been for the yankees. wang is coiming out of it. matsuzaka isn’t.

    the one thing i wanted to point out is that farrel has a very different pitching philosophy than eiland. farrel time and time again refers to commanding the fastball for strikes in a specific part of the zone.

    of course all pitching coaches will say this is a good idea, but farrell pushes it far beyond other pitching coaches. sometimes this backfire as it did with matsuzaka last night.
    his first pitch strike was hammered for a home run.

    farrell is trying to get matsuzaka to buy in to throwing strikes and being more economical. this isn’t likely to work because matsuzaka has never done it. in his case, the red sox should let him pitch his game which means nibbing and throwing 147 pitches in 6 innings. why not do it? what’s he worth if they don’t?

    i agree with farrel’s approach with most pitchers and think it’s superior to eiland’s mechanics approach when something is going wrong with a pitcher. eiland rarely says pitchers are using a bad strategy. he almost always will say the release point is wrong, the lower body is out of sync, the hands aren’t breaking right , or his go to phrase that the guy needs to take it from the bullpen to the mound.

    the problem with this approach is that there doesn’t seem to be a focus on simply working on basic strategy as a weapon. commanding a fastball does a lot of things. pitchers get ahead in the count more often. they throw less pitches and are in the game more innings. and it works as hitters can’t look for two opposite locations at once.

    when secondary pitches are mixed in as the game goes on they are much more effective because the hitter is looking for the well placed fastball. joba, burnett, and even wang would be much better if they all had a refresher course in locating their four seam fastball. ( wang just to get through this tough phase where he trying to build arm strength).

    it is no coincidence the yankees lead baseball in walks given up. eiland just doesn’t push the four seam fastball strike as the main weapon for pitcher to build around.

  12. Tom in N.J

    It does seem like the Yankee pitchers “pitch backwards”-off speed/breaking pitches early in the count.

  13. JoeT 28 in 10!!

    I will be at the game tonight!! Can’t wait to see AJ dominate his former team. I’ll also be at the games the end of July in Tampa :-D

  14. raymagnetic

    “i agree with farrel’s approach with most pitchers and think it’s superior to eiland’s mechanics approach when something is going wrong with a pitcher. eiland rarely says pitchers are using a bad strategy. he almost always will say the release point is wrong, the lower body is out of sync, the hands aren’t breaking right , or his go to phrase that the guy needs to take it from the bullpen to the mound.

    the problem with this approach is that there doesn’t seem to be a focus on simply working on basic strategy as a weapon. commanding a fastball does a lot of things. pitchers get ahead in the count more often. they throw less pitches and are in the game more innings. and it works as hitters can’t look for two opposite locations at once.”

    Randy,

    Eiland would likely disagree with you about what his pitching philosophy is. This is an article from April, 2008.

    “Eiland also has stressed throwing strikes and getting ahead. That’s certainly nothing new. But Eiland has his point backed up by reams of statistics that show his pitchers how much trouble certain counts give them.”

    Source: http://www.pinstripealley.com/.....tching-pro

  15. Joe from Long Island

    Good morning, randy –

    You sound a bit like Jim Kaat, I think, in pushing for pitchers to start off by establishing their fastball, then the subsequent times thru the order introducing their secondary pitches to mix it up. As a fan, makes sense to me.

    I get the impression that in coaching, like other fields, there are different styles, and, like a mentor once told me, it doesn’t matter what you do as long as it works. You make a good point about DiceK, that trying to get him to pitch to a certain style now, after not having done it throughout an established career, isn’t going to work; he’s not going to buy into it heart and soul, and if the athlete doesn’t do that, it’s not working, regardless of philosophy. Like the saying goes, he is what he is, and if he’s a 140-pitch, 5-6 inning pitcher, well he’s a $100M 5-6 inning pitcher.

    Whether it’s pitching or anything else, different performers succeed in different ways, and the job of the coach/teacher is to use whatever style works for the individual. Makes it more of a challenge for the coach than teaching just one style, but that’s what happens when you have guys from a variety of backgrounds and skills.

  16. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC

    JoeT 28 in 10!! June 20th, 2009 at 10:13 am

    I will be at the game tonight!! Can’t wait to see AJ dominate his former team. I’ll also be at the games the end of July in Tampa

    ==========================

    Have fun at the game

  17. Don Capone

    I wonder what the “Most Distinguished Athletic Trainer Award” looks like. A bronzed roll of athletic tape? A Gold (latex) Glove?

  18. NYYanksFan

    A-Rod is taking a beating in the FL press about asking for a day off last night. The media is blaming him for screwing up the homecoming they and fans had planned on.

    A-Rod wanted to play last night because it was Miami and he had friends and family coming. He asked if he could sit on Saturday. Girardi seemed on board with that until something changed. Intervention from someone. Cashman? Long?

    What this has resulted in is embarrassing the player, pissing off the locals and causing a rift where one didn’t need to exist if his rehab return had been better handled from the beginning.

  19. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood)

    Congrats to Geno. He’s come a long way since being a Fort Lauderdale bat boy!

  20. raymagnetic

    More about Dave Eiland’s pitching philosophy.

    “You have to be mentally stronger than that, that’s all it is,” Eiland said. “Just pitch to contact. If you pitch to contact, you’re going to execute pitches and get guys out. If you’re falling behind in counts, you’re making a good hitter a great hitter. And a great hitter? You can’t get him out because you’re putting yourself in a hole”

    Source: http://mycentraljersey.com/art...../906150363

  21. SJ44

    I live down here. Who cares what’s written? Arod doesn’t.

    The Marlins have sold over 100,000 tickets for this series. Most of them to Yankee fans. They are showing up so, it’s no big deal.

    Nobody cares about the Marlins in South Florida. It’s easier for columnists to write a story about what a bad guy Arod is than write about their hometown team.

    That’s what passes for baseball talk in South Florida.

  22. Tarheelyank

    Randy great post.
    I am the first to say that it seems as though Eiland has been getting a free pass on issues that he should be getting hammered for.

    Regarding the “approach” wasn’t it Eiland who insisted that Mussina start throwing inside? If so that was a good call.

  23. Hokiehill

    “It’s a great lineup,” West said. “The best money can buy.”

    IMO Sean West hasn’t done enough to be talking like that…

  24. Hokiehill

    You can’t fault ARod for asking for the day off if he really felt he needed. More selfish IMO to play if you know you could be hurting the team. The funny thing is that a guy like Bruney was getting hammered for trying to play through the pain and making things worse while ARod gets hammered for asking for rest. And on top of that, he was supposed to get 1 day off a week and has asked not to be given that rest up until this point.

  25. William Buckner

    “Mike Dunn: 2.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 2-0 GB/FB – K/9 up to 12.41″ RAB

    What does he have to do to get a call up? I believe he’s on the 40 man.

  26. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Dunn is on the 40-man.

    As to your question, that’s been mine for many weeks as well.

    Every time I see this guy, the Billy Joel line comes into my head:

    “Man, what are YOU doing here?”

  27. Betsy

    GF, again……..I don’t know what you think I said about Melancon to make you think I questioned his character because of a couple of bad outings. I never did that, not once. I don’t think I need to tell you that there is a difference between criticizing someone’s performance and criticizing who they are. The worst thing I said about Melancon is that he wasn’t ready and that he’s no savior – and I still believe that. It has nothing to do with his makeup, it has to do with the fact that he’s a kid with almost no experience in the majors. Why should Melancon be any different than any other young pitcher who has ever pitched? Should he never struggle? I”m not blaming him for being young and inexperienced (that would be ridiculous), but those are the facts. Also, it’s hardly personal with me. I won’t trust any young kid to come up and help us in the pen – not Mike Dunn or whomever – because they will have too many ups and downs to be reliable.

    Also, I never said the Yankees quit or mailed the Nats serie in. I had said earlier that it would take an awful lot for me to ever think that of the Yankees – and that the team simply has way too many prideful professionals to even contemplate just throwing away 3 games. I said that IF it was true (based on what some Yankee higher-ups believed), then it would hard for me to root for the team…….IF it was true. I don’t believe it is.

  28. MaineYankee

    randy

    Your observasions on Eiland are from the outside looking in and with an obvious bias from following your posts here over time.

    From my view in Joba’s last start he was in love with the slider even when it wasn’t working.

    It does seems that telling Wang he needed to be more mentally tough helped.

    Joe has comented more than once in interviews that the pitchers needed to pound the zone.

    So with that being said I think the responsibility is equally shared and it’s hard for me place blame totally at the feet of either side.

  29. jennifer

    Headed up to the stadium for the tour! woo hoo! :)

  30. Tom in N.J

    Wilkins De La Rosa was put on the D.L. anybody know why?

    Also any word on Christian Garcia?

  31. Boston Dave - OPPC

    “well he’s (Daisuke) a $100M 5-6 inning pitcher. ”

    ———

    considering the $51M posting fee was a lump sum up front payment, the actual cost is closer to $130-150M over 6 years.

  32. Boston Dave - OPPC

    “I am the first to say that it seems as though Eiland has been getting a free pass on issues that he should be getting hammered for.”

    ———

    Eiland may deserve some criticism but let’s remember these are professional athletes.

    Shouldn’t they have figured out what works and what doesn’t by now?

    The idea of getting ahead in the count and throwing strikes isn’t rocket science.

    If Eiland is noticing mechanical flaws, that’s one thing.

    Otherwise it’s not much different than a basketball coach telling his players to “make your shots!”

  33. William Buckner

    I heard Garcia had no structural damage and is heading to Tampa.

    No word yet on De La Rosa.

  34. MaineYankee

    Boston Dave – OPPC
    June 20th, 2009 at 11:14 am
    “well he’s (Daisuke) a $100M 5-6 inning pitcher. ”
    ————-

    considering the $51M posting fee was a lump sum up front payment, the actual cost is closer to $130-150M over 6 years.

    ——————————————————-

    I believe the total was 100M. I think his contract was 50M for 5 years.

  35. Betsy

    LOL I agree with SJ, who cares what the media or the fans think? They want Alex to play so they can boo him.. I don’t care if it is his hometown, Alex would get booed, I have no doubt. Girardi handled this dreadfully – lol he admitted he should have rested Alex before now? Ya think? Joe is no brain surgeon, that’s for sure.

  36. Boston Dave - OPPC

    “I believe the total was 100M. I think his contract was 50M for 5 years.”

    ————

    a lump sum payment is not the same as $51M over the course of 6 years.

    using a conservative interest rate, it’s more like $130M over 6 years. You could easily make a case that it’s almost $150M in actual cost to the Red Sox for the 6 years they’ll have Daisuke.

  37. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Tom in N.J
    June 20th, 2009 at 11:14 am
    Wilkins De La Rosa was put on the D.L. anybody know why?
    Also any word on Christian Garcia?
    ==============

    There are no reports as of this morning, EST.

    In Garcia’s case, he saw Andrews, and he’s in Tampa. The discouraging thing for Garcia is he had elbow pain.

  38. Boston Dave - OPPC

    “You could easily make a case that it’s almost $150M in actual cost to the Red Sox for the 6 years they’ll have Daisuke.”

    ————-

    it’s not the same as CC’s contract because of luxury tax but the Sox are getting a free pass on the Daisuke deal.

    The media ripped the Yanks for spending on CC but

    a) nobody said anything about the Mets paying Santana
    b) nobody once gave the true cost of Daisuke’s deal for an unproven pitcher

    the Sox got a free pass. Maybe if Daisuke continues to stink it up they’ll catch some slack for giving a record deal like that.

  39. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    William Buckner
    June 20th, 2009 at 11:18 am
    I heard Garcia had no structural damage and is heading to Tampa.
    No word yet on De La Rosa.
    =================

    Where did you hear this? Do you have a link or anything? That sounds hopeful. What about the elbow pain?

  40. Boston Dave - OPPC

    “In Garcia’s case, he saw Andrews, and he’s in Tampa. The discouraging thing for Garcia is he had elbow pain.”

    ———

    Garcia is a lost cause, IMO.

    He is never going to be healthy.

    At some point, they’ll have no choice but to remove him from the 40man and some team can take a flier on him as a relief pitcher.

    It’s a shame because he’s talented but I’d rather have an average pitcher who can give you something than a high ceiling ‘future star’ who lives on the DL.

  41. Tom in N.J

    Thanks, William Buckner and bodhisattva.

  42. 86w183

    Dave will you please handle my investments? If $ 51 Million can be turned into $ 81 Million in just six years in this day and age that’s amazing!

    Yes, the Red Sawx saved on luxury taxes since the $ 103 Million they paid was about half and half and they only pay tax on the half Matsuzaka gets.

    It will be interesting to see how the $ 17 M a year the actually paid for Marsuzaka compared with the $ 16.5 M the Yankees agreed to pay AJ Burnett. 33 wins in the first two seasons were impressive, but does anyone think Daisuke will average 16.5 wins for this and the next three?

  43. 86w183

    I misdread it… you turned a $ 51 million posting fee into $98 million in six years! Is Warren Buffet calling you for advice?

  44. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Garcia is a lost cause, IMO.
    He is never going to be healthy.
    At some point, they’ll have no choice but to remove him from the 40man and some team can take a flier on him as a relief pitcher.
    It’s a shame because he’s talented but I’d rather have an average pitcher who can give you something than a high ceiling ‘future star’ who lives on the DL.
    =======

    I wouldn’t be so hasty.

    WB said he heard there’s no structural damage. That’s cautiously good news. If there’s any arm you want to try to nurture to some semblance of health, this is it.

  45. Bob(the original)

    Last night’s game was the Florida feed on Extra Innings?

    Anyone else here watch it?

    They were doing a panning shot of people in one of the front rows and showed a shot right up some girls skirt, where you could see, well, everything. lol

  46. William Buckner

    “Where did you hear this? Do you have a link or anything? That sounds hopeful. What about the elbow pain?”

    Pretty sure I read it on RAB earlier this week. In their minor league report.

  47. SJ44

    Nobody handled anything “dreadfully” re: Arod.

    Arod can’t win. If he feels the responsibility of playing everyday to help his team, and God forbid goes into a slump, he gets hammered.

    If he says he’s “fatigued” and needs a day, and they give him two, there has to be a “bigger story” or he gets ripped for asking for a day off.

    And let’s not forget, ANYTHING he does gives the media free reign to ask if he is using again. That’s pretty funny to me because if he was, he certainly wouldn’t need time off because the juice would be giving him the energy to play.

    Nothing he can say or do will satisfy people. That’s why he no longer cares what anybody says or writes about him. FINALLY he has a grasp on who his real and fake friends are, both in and out of the media.

    Read WHY Girardi played him a lot before ripping him.

    1. They were going through the tough part of the schedule and he wanted Arod in the lineup. Wow, that’s certainly a fireable offense. The manager having the gall to want his best player in the lineup against the better teams on the schedule. Darn it Joe, don’t you know? Sit Arod for Angel Berroa for those games! lol

    If Arod ever asked out of a Tampa, Philadelphia or Boston game, you folks would have lost your minds.

    2. Even those in the media who hate Arod, which is most of them, acknowledge the guy is completely dedicated to playing everyday and working hard. Guys like that feel a great responsibility to the team. That makes it tough to get him out of the lineup for any extended period of time.

    There isn’t any grand conspiracy to hose the Marlins or their 300-500 fans who attend their games. They made a decision to sit him down for a few days because the schedule best allows for it right now.

    Its not nearly as big a deal as folks want to make it out to be. In fact, many of the same critics of this move have been calling for it for a week. Now that it happened, they complain about happening. Amazing.

  48. BBFan

    They should convert Garcia into relief pitchers and nurture him carefully with enough gaps between appearnaces initially. As a starter he always had injury problems.

  49. Samples

    This is a nice honor and well deserved for his body of work with the Yankees over the years. Not to be negative, ageist, whatever, but what are the chances a guy who has been a trainer for almost 50 years is up to speed on all the latest and greatest in technologies, medical theories, training / rehab techniques, etc? It has been said before on this site that the Yankees seem to have more injuries than normal that linger, and then blow up worse than had it been caught early. I remember seeing Arod step out of the batters box and lift his leg a couple times in a row to stretch it all season long in 2008. Nobody on the training staff noticed that? Granted, Arod should have spoken up too, but its not the first time a player tried to do too much.

  50. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Welcome, Tom.

    WIsh we were discussing his upcoming start, instead.

  51. William Buckner

    bodhisattva,

    I tend to agree with Boston Dave. Garcia has always had great talent. But he either lacks durability or desire.

    I thought very early this year he may be a good BP option.

  52. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Thanks, WB.

    I’ll go through back entries.

  53. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Yes, I was all pumped up thinking he could make a devastating BP entrance for us.

    BBF – If this isn’t the D knell, then I see the BP as a safe place for Xtian to get a foothold and work his way from there.

  54. randy l.

    “Your observasions on Eiland are from the outside looking in and with an obvious bias from following your posts here over time.”

    maine yankee-

    no bias, it’s a matter of preference. i prefer basic strategies with variation on a theme. at any level i’ve ever competed at i prefer simplicity. i’ve played against the best avp beach v-ball players in the world and even then when i was outmatched i wouldn’t resort to trickery. i would use a basic simple approach in which i would emphasize making no mistakes. nothing flashy, i would serve the equivalent of a fastball strike over and and over again. others might go for lines, try some trick cut serve, etc. i would stick to basics. that’s not a bias, that’s an approach.

    “Joe has comented more than once in interviews that the pitchers needed to pound the zone.”

    parents tell their kids all the time not to touch things, but if the kids keep doing it, there’s an authority problem with who’s in charge. if the manager and pitching coach aren’t in charge, why have one?

    like i said, i like simplicity as a strategy and i don’t see fast ball command givin a high priority with the yankees. if you ever come up with either girardi or deiland talking about it, i’d be glad to see it , but it’s usually lip service to throwing strikes. fastball command is different then just throwing strikes.

    and what makes you think i care what you think about what i think abut eiland? no offense, but i don’t hear anything very technical coming out of you. if you want to give me a little crap , expect it back at you and twice as hard.

  55. William Buckner

    I often wonder with guys like Garcia or Kontos, why they don’t follow the Phil Coke model and ask to be converted to BP.

    It seems if you are 25 ish in the Yankee org you likely aren’t making it as a starter. Why not try something to get to the bigs?

  56. randy l.

    “Eiland may deserve some criticism but let’s remember these are professional athletes.
    Shouldn’t they have figured out what works and what doesn’t by now?”

    then lets tell the pitching coach to go home if the pitchers already know what they are doing.

    that said, i agree there’s a responsibility on the athlete to execute the overall strategy the coaches ask of the athlete. obviously there’s a responsibility on both sides to do their jobs.

    the simple fact is the yankees lead mlb in walks and with their pitching payroll and draft money that acquired some very good pitchers that is simply not acceptable.

    if it is to anyone, i’d like to hear their logic.

  57. SJ44

    That may end up being the plan with Garcia.

    When you have an arm like Garcia’s and a significant injury history, a move to the bullpen may be best for him.

    It allows him to empty the tank in one inning appearances and that enables them to take advantage of the stuff he brings to the table.

    The key is though for him to be healthy enough to be able to do it. That’s probably the biggest question right now.

  58. MaineYankee

    I don’t call making observasions about Eiland’s philosify based on what you do or don’t hear being technical. I call it bias.

    I do take offense when you like to put me down because I don’t have the inside knowledge you have. I don’t insult you just question your theory’s at times.

  59. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Well, I haven’t ever laid eyes on Kontos, only have heard all about him and his slider.

    In Garcia’s case, he has such an arsenal of elite stuff, I think it would be hard to give up the idea of being a front-line starter, health permitting. And he’s only turning 24 this summer.

    If he can carve a career for himself in the bullpen, or not have one, I’m sure he’d take that. Who knows how optimistic even that is, at this point?

  60. SJ44

    If I were involved in player development with the Yankees, here is what I would do with Garcia.

    Reduce his arsonal to two pitches, fastball and slider, and put him in the bullpen the rest of the year.

    Try to get 20-25 appearances (no more than 30 innings) out of the pen and see how he handles it physically and mentally.

    If he comes out that well, he goes into next season in the AAA bullpen, and would be closer to the majors than he would be if they continue to try and make him a frontline starter, given his injury history.

    Its worth the gamble because if he takes to the pen, he’s going to be in the Yankees bullpen by Mid-2010, because his stuff is that good.

    I would look to make the transition now and hope it takes because it would do wonders for his confidence if it does.

    Nothing is more depressing to an athlete than being in constant rehab mode because of injury.

  61. 86w183

    Garcia has thrown a total of 87 2/3 innings in the last three years including this one. I’d say it’s time to try something different with him.

    The Yanks only list 39 guys on the 40-man… does Ransom autopmatically count once he starts re-hab? How long until Nady gets activated? Does that finally seal the deal for Berroa or might they send Gardner down to Scranton to play every day? Personally, I’d keep Gardner up.

  62. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Yes, they could put him on a conservative plan and work his way from there. He’d be lights out, if healthy – he’s a no doubt about it kind of kid.

    He throws a FB/CB/change combo- and he can gets Ks with all of them.

    Wouldn’t have him give up either the CB or change, because they are both just so special and he has command of both.

  63. Boston Dave - OPPC

    “Dave will you please handle my investments? If $ 51 Million can be turned into $ 81 Million in just six years in this day and age that’s amazing!”

    ———

    well, I certainly don’t remember everything from business school but If you are going to make a major investment, I think it’s safe to say you’d expect a minimum of 10% return per year (which is less than the S&P 500’s avg annual return over the past 50 years).

    So for the $50M posting fee and a minimal 10% annual gain:

    year 1 interest/ROI: $5M
    year 2 interest: 5.5M
    year 3 interest: 6M
    year 4 interest: 6.6M
    year 5 interest: 7.2M
    year 6 interest: 8M

    that’s about $38M over 6 years, so $88M.

    I realize you think you’re being a smartass but the #s back up my claim.

    If anything, I am understating the #s because, as I said, if you cannot beat the S&P 500, you prob shouldn’t take on greater risk than an index fund.

  64. Boston Dave - OPPC

    “the simple fact is the yankees lead mlb in walks and with their pitching payroll and draft money that acquired some very good pitchers that is simply not acceptable.”

    ——–

    I agree. I just think it’s on the pitchers to throw strikes.

    If Eiland needs to explain to the guys that falling behind in the count will lead to less desirable results, they are in big trouble.

  65. randy l.

    maine yankee-
    i’m totally sick of your bias crap.

    i made a point about pitching strategy.

    if you want to make a point about an opposing approach or give another of your own or someone else’s great, but this incessant crap about me being biased is just a personal attack i’m not putting up with anymore.

    you said” Your observasions on Eiland are from the outside looking in and with an obvious bias from following your posts here over time.”

    obvious bias over time ? so you want to call me out on some perceived bias you think i have. that’s being a jackass. stick to the point of the comment or if you go personal expect me to get personal too ,and i don’t think your bad attitude can keep up with my bad attitude.

    if you think you can, then bring it on by all means. otherwise stop the snide comments and we can actually talk about baseball the way we usually do.

  66. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    I do take offense when you like to put me down because I don’t have the inside knowledge you have. I don’t insult you just question your theory’s at times.
    =======

    Unfortunately, knowledge doesn’t guarantee grace. :(

  67. randy l.

    boston dave-

    if the manager and pitching coach have done everything possible to get the pitchers to throw strikes and they still can’t then they have to make some personnel decisions.

    they also have to look at who acquired these guys for so much money who can’t throw strikes.

    being in charge isn’t just teaching. sometimes you have to get rid of people. you’ve been in the corporate world. if someone, know matter how much they are managed, can’t get the job done, they need to go.

  68. randy l.

    “Unfortunately, knowledge doesn’t guarantee grace.”

    who are you talking about?

    you like being called “biased” a few hundred times ?

    sometimes grace is knowing when to mind your own business.

  69. MaineYankee

    randy

    Your’e missing my point. I think you add alot to this sight, but the negatives detract from that.

    I’m not trying to make a personal attack and if thats how it comes across that is not the intention.

    Because I disagree with you at times is not a judgement on your opinion, just a different one. That makes neither of us right or wrong.

    If I come across as getting personal don’t take it that way because that’s not my intent.
    I may be reading in attitude from your posts that aren’t there. If I am I apoligize.

  70. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    “Unfortunately, knowledge doesn’t guarantee grace.”
    who are you talking about?
    you like being called “biased” a few hundred times ?
    sometimes grace is knowing when to mind your own business.
    ===========

    Like I said…

  71. randy l.

    maine yankee-

    tell you what, i’ll make it a point to not mention names as much and keep it on the point of the post without getting into personalities as much as possible. i really have no problem with eiland being pitching coach. i really do care about a strategy of simplicity.

    we’ve had 99% great discussions and if we can make a small compromise each to keep that up , i’m all for it.

  72. randy l.

    “Like I said…”

    go eat a goji berry :)

  73. Ramondo (Scottsdale AZ)

    Jack Clark greatest Yankee ever you are a true IDIOT!!

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