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Game 68: Yankees at Marlins

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YANKEES (38-29)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Berroa 3B
Burnett RHP

Pitching: A.J. Burnett (5-3, 4.46).

MARLINS (33-36)
Coghlan LF
Bonafacio 3B
Ramirez SS
Cantu 1B
Uggla 2B
Hermida RF
Ross CF
Baker C
Johnson RHP

Pitching: RHP Josh Johnson (6-1, 2.76).

TIME/TV: 7:10 p.m., YES.

STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees start the day two games out of first place. They are 4-5 in their last nine games and 5-5 in interleague play.

BURN, BABY BURN: A.J. Burnett is 3-1 with a 3.18 ERA in his last four starts. He has allowed 20 hits over 22.2 innings with 14 walks and 24 strikeouts.

MIAMI NICE: Burnett was 28-17, 3.20 in his 64 appearances at Joe Robbie/Pro Player/Dolphins/Tony Montana Real Estate/Land Shark Stadium.

ROAD KINGS: The Yankees are 17-15 on the road. The Angels (18-17) are the only other team in the AL with a winning record on the road.

AND HE ACTUALLY DREW A WALK LAST NIGHT: Robinson Cano is 13 of his last 28 with seven runs scored, seven RBI and six extra-base hits.

MILESTONE WATCH: Jeter’s double in the first inning yesterday gave him 424 in his career. That tied him for fourth place in team history with George Herman Ruth. Don Mattingly is third with 442 with Bernie Williams in second at 449. The record belongs to Lou Gehrig with 534.

Andy Pettitte’s start last night was his 356th as a Yankee. Only Hall of Famers Whitey Ford (438) and Red Ruffing (391) have made more.

PITCHING UPDATE: The Yankees have a 2.05 ERA in their last five games. The bullpen, meanwhile, has allowed one earned run over the last 16.1 innings.

Back with much more later.

UPDATE, 5:49 p.m.: Xavier Nady played five innings in the outfield in extended spring training and was 0 for 4 at the plate. But he made several throws and felt no pain and according to Joe Girardi, was able to hit the cutoff man. Nady will take tomorrow off, play Monday and then possibly start a rehab assignment.

Jose Molina (quad) is still rehabbing and at least a week away from a minor-league game. Same with Damaso Marte, who played catch for the 1,235th time since he went on the DL. He’s the Florida State Playing Catch champion.

UPDATE, 6:13 p.m.: Mark Teixeira just left BP after fouling a ball off that glanced off the cage and caught him in a bad place. No word on whether he’ll stay in the lineup yet.

UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: We’re underway here in Miami. Teixeira remains in the lineup. I guess you can say he’s showing a lot of … um … fortitude.

UPDATE, 7:30 p.m.: The Journal News has learned that Francisco Cervelli is wearing a Mission Impossible-style Jorge Posada mask and has caught these last two games. What else could explain why the Yankees have allowed one run over the last 10 innings and Hanley Ramirez getting thrown out at second. After all, Posada is finished.

UPDATE, 8:18 p.m.: Can’t blame Berroa for that error. Frank Hiward used to always catch those high throws back when AB was with the Senators.

Meanwhile, A.J did the Joba fist pump when he fanned Ross for his seventh whiff in four innings. Marlins 1-0 as Johnson is making the Yankees look silly.

UPDATE, 8:39 p.m.: Josh Johnson has allowed three balls out of the infield and two are by Burnett. He had a broken-bat single in the third inning and a fly ball to center in the sixth. The only other batter to get the ball part the dirt was Cano, who flew to right.

Johnson has recorded 11 outs on the ground. Great performance by him so far. Burnett and the Yankees trail 1-0.

UPDATE, 8:48 p.m.: Tough night for the “Posasa is washed up” crowd as he guns down another runner. Meanwhile, A.J. is getting a little wild, having walked two straight. He could use a double-play here to conserve pitches.

UPDATE, 8:52 p.m.: The official scorer here, Ron Jernick, is one of the worst in baseball. He just gave Cantu a double on that ball. The ball hit Damon’s glove.

Jernick didn’t even look at a replay before calling it a double. Pretty bad.

A.J. is having a rough inning. But he should have two outs and a runner on first.

UPDATE, 9:04 p.m.: They just changed that call to an error. Justice is served. But the Yankees still trail 2-1.

46,427 here tonight. Third-largest regular-season crowd in the history of this stadium.

UPDATE, 9:06 p.m.: Runners on the corners, two outs for Swishalicious. Big spot for him.

UPDATE, 9:09 p.m.: Swisher’s single makes it 2-1. That error really hurts now. If Melky gets on, Girardi has to use A-Rod for Berroa, doesn’t he? Or at least Matsui.

UPDATE, 9:16 p.m.: Now it’s in the hands of the bullpens.

Johnson: 7 3 1 1 2 5. 103 pitches / 67 strikes. If the Yankees can hold it at 2-1, I think they’ll find a way to win. Big spot for Phil Coke, who has been lights-out lately.

UPDATE, 9:26 p.m.: Yankees taking their shot here. Matsui hits for Berroa, A-Rod on deck for Coke. Then Jeter. 2-1 Fish.

UPDATE, 9:27 p.m.: The crowd goes wild as Alex comes to the plate. Let Gardner steal and give him a chance to tie it?

UPDATE, 9:37 p.m.: Yankees had it set up, first and second for Jeter. But he grounds into his second double play of the night. Now it’s a runner on third for Damon. He will face lefty Dan Meyer.

Johnny needs to make up for that error somehow. A two-run homer would do that.

UPDATE, 9:49 p.m.: Great job by Phil Hughes. The bullpen has been terrific lately. Now the Yankees will see what they can do with Matt Lindstrom. Heck of a game here.

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1,305 Responses to “Game 68: Yankees at Marlins”

  1. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 20th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Waiting to see the starting line-up. I would think that Posada will catch AJ tonight because with Alex out and no DH I don’t think the Yanks can afford to loose Posada’s bat also.

  2. jpb1973 June 20th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    According to John Heyman, the real story is that Yankee brass (Hal Stienbrenner & Cashman) made this decision because ARod was hurting the team.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

  3. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    jpb1973,

    one person supposedly said “you’re hurting the team” and I’m sure that will get blown up by the media.

    the real story is that ARod didn’t follow Dr’s orders. The team should have been giving him rest.

  4. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    The real story is that Girardi didn’t sit Alex like he should have. The fact that it came down to this is pretty pathetic. No player is going to volunteer being “benched” – the manager has to protect the players from themsleves. They’d play with a broken leg if they were allowed to. Joe has admitted in the past that he would ask Alex if he were ok and then, when Alex said yes, Joe would decide not to give him the day off that he’d been inclined to give him. That’s just dumb.

  5. T15D23 June 20th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    “Andy Pettitte’s start last night was his 356th as a Yankee. Only Hall of Famers Whitey Ford (438) and Red Ruffing (391) have made more.”

    Imagine if King George and Stupid Levine actually appreciated Andy, he would have been closing in on Whitey now.

  6. Ed H. June 20th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Girardi makes out the lineup, not Alex. It’s the Yanks who didn’t follow doctor’s orders.

  7. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    “Imagine if King George and Stupid Levine actually appreciated Andy, he would have been closing in on Whitey now.”

    ——–

    well, they were worried about Andy’s elbow.

    Sure enough, he missed considerable time with a torn flexor tendon in his left elbow.

  8. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Ed H,

    that’s what I meant. Ultimately Alex is the patient so he didnt follow Dr’s orders, but yes… it was the team’s fault.

  9. jpb1973 June 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    one person supposedly said “you’re hurting the team” and I’m sure that will get blown up by the media.

    the real story is that ARod didn’t follow Dr’s orders. The team should have been giving him rest.

    ——————————————————-

    You’ve got to give Heyman credit for weeding out all of the BS and finding out the truth. It appears there are many ways for a situation to be spun and usually the incorrectly spun version is the first one to emerge.

  10. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    George never liked Andy. Even as a rookie way before the elbow problems. According to Joe Torre’s book there was actually a deal in place to trade Andy in 1999 (i think) that was killed in the last minute, keeping Andy as a Yankee until 2003

  11. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    “George never liked Andy.”

    ——–

    did George ever give a reason? or does anybody have a hypothesis?

    Andy seems like a guy that’s impossible to hate. He’s a grinder and loves the Yankees. He has pitched great in the postseason and helped them to 4 rings…

  12. Papa Smurf June 20th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Boston Dave – OPPC
    June 20th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
    “Imagine if King George and Stupid Levine actually appreciated Andy, he would have been closing in on Whitey now.”
    ————
    well, they were worried about Andy’s elbow.

    Sure enough, he missed considerable time with a torn flexor tendon in his left elbow.

    —————————————————-

    Andy Pettitte signing with the Astros was one of the best moves the yankees made. They drafted Phil Hughes with the astros pick. Hughes will be the teams ace two years from now.

  13. Bret the Hitman June 20th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Arodiots,

    Please just shut up about Alex Rodriguez.

    Shut. Up.

  14. Papa Smurf June 20th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Erica – newly OPPC
    June 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
    George never liked Andy. Even as a rookie way before the elbow problems. According to Joe Torre’s book there was actually a deal in place to trade Andy in 1999 (i think) that was killed in the last minute, keeping Andy as a Yankee until 2003

    —————————————–

    I thought it was Cashman who didn’t like Pettitte?

  15. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    George didn’t like him because he didn’t have the flashiness that other great pitchers have. He didn’t have the fastest fastball or any particularly rare pitches. I think in George’s eyes Andy was very average.

  16. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    No, it was definitely George. This was an issue in Andy’s rookie year- before Cashman had any real power

  17. Papa Smurf June 20th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    I hope Posada learned a few things from Cervelli on how to call a game.

  18. Bret the Hitman June 20th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    The bullpen is quite different without Edwar, Albaladejo and Veras. Joba will be in the bullpen as he comes close to his innings cap. Still, Cashman needs to make a trade to push this bullpen into elite class. I’ve been thinking Huston Street because we can’t sign him like we can R. Soriano and Mike Gonzalez.

    Imagine a playoff bullpen of Mo, Joba, Street, Bruney, Hughes, Coke and Robertson.

  19. Mark in Tampa June 20th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    I remember the almost Pettitte deal. I believe it was going to be to the Phillies, I am not sure who the Yanks were going to get in return. Pettitte had a bad stretch, George got fed up and tried to unload him. Somebody talked George out of it and Pettitte had a great second half. At least, that is my recollection.

  20. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Mark in Tampa
    June 20th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
    I remember the almost Pettitte deal. I believe it was going to be to the Phillies, I am not sure who the Yanks were going to get in return. Pettitte had a bad stretch, George got fed up and tried to unload him. Somebody talked George out of it and Pettitte had a great second half. At least, that is my recollection.
    *****
    That sounds about right. It was a deal George put together himself- not the GM. He was adamant about it. But last minute, Torre got through to him and cooler heads prevailed

    Can you imagine how that would have altered Yankee history if they traded Pettitte in the 90s?

  21. raymagnetic June 20th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Yeah, Torre had to convince the Yankees numerous times not to trade Pettitte.

    Was 1999 the year Pettitte was horrible in the first half of the year?

  22. Erik Sec. 309 June 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Good call – Posada has a wonderful bat, but his game calling skills seems to be down lately…..On the other hand, I think Jorge wants to challenge pitchers more and the hurlers are afraid to do that when they pitch at home.

  23. Erik Sec. 309 June 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    I meant to say that he wants to challenge batters more….ooops.

  24. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Dutch Hugo
    June 20th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
    Pete, there’s no third-baseman in the lineup… only eight players listed.
    ****
    I am going to play 3rd for the Yankees tonight. I am inserting myself into the lineup in the 8 slot :-)

  25. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Rick June 20th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    If the Yankees win this game, one of the following phrases will be the headline for this blog:

    “Are the Yankees better off without Alex Rodriguez?”

    “Yankees win again without the “tired” A-Rod”

    “Pettitte is awesome, A-Rod has the worst contract in the history of American civilization, I am a hypocrite.”

    Haha I love the last one.

  26. Yankeeboy98 June 20th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Me too!

  27. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Awesome Erica. I’m expecting a combination of Graig Nettles and Scott Brosius, with a dash of Mike Schmidt thrown in…

  28. Yankeeboy98 June 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Also, I’d guess Berroa would be at 3rd again due to his performance last night.

  29. JT June 20th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    George never appreciated Bernie or Pettitte. He liked his 10M pitchers like Johnson & Clemens and his 10M Hitters like Conseco & Bonds.

    If George didn’t get suspended Guidry, Rivera, Pettitte & Bernie would have been traded and we might have been looking at zero championships in 30 years.

  30. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    And maybe some Pie Traynor. Not that i know much about him, but anyone named Pie’s OK in my book….

    mmmmmmmmm, Pie………

  31. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Dutch Hugo
    June 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
    Awesome Erica. I’m expecting a combination of Graig Nettles and Scott Brosius, with a dash of Mike Schmidt thrown in…
    *****
    I am better than the two of them put together at 3rd Base. I am more worried about my hitting though. I might drop to the fetal position and start crying in the batters box when the first fastball comes at me. But I’ll persevere- there is no crying in baseball :-)

  32. JT June 20th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Torre is at it again!

    During Joe Torre’s last seven seasons with the Yankees, he left in his wake a bunch of right-handed relievers who were broken down from pitching a whole lot of innings — Steve Karsay, Paul Quantrill, Tom Gordon, Tanyon Sturtze, Scott Proctor, etc. The Dodgers have an enormous lead in the NL West, and that’s a good thing, because L.A.’s middle relief corps is racking up huge numbers of innings and appearances.

    Two of the top six leaders in innings pitched belong to the Dodgers, Ramon Troncoso and Ronald Belisario; combined, they are on pace to throw almost 200 innings. It will be interesting to see how the L.A. bullpen holds up down the stretch; GM Ned Colletti is said by others to be searching for pitching.

  33. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 20th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Erica, amazing recovery from the flu. A few weeks ago you couldn’t move and now you are at 3rd base for the NYY ;)

  34. Joe from Long Island June 20th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    It looks like Heyman made good use of his residual Yankee sources, developed when he was writing for Newsday. Nice job of investigating and reporting.

  35. charlie June 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    I see the Yankees decided to only bat 8 players. That is very interesting. No 3rd baseman, either. Strange

  36. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Fran (the original) and OPPC member
    June 20th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
    Erica, amazing recovery from the flu. A few weeks ago you couldn’t move and now you are at 3rd base for the NYY
    ****
    Hahaha. Fran, I am praying this is a quick game cause I still get very tired and pass out by 11. I might have to swing at the first pitch a lot to help speed up the game. But I don’t want people to criticize me for mailing it in

  37. Papa Smurf June 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    JT
    June 20th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
    Torre is at it again!

    During Joe Torre’s last seven seasons with the Yankees, he left in his wake a bunch of right-handed relievers who were broken down from pitching a whole lot of innings—Steve Karsay, Paul Quantrill, Tom Gordon, Tanyon Sturtze, Scott Proctor, etc. The Dodgers have an enormous lead in the NL West, and that’s a good thing, because L.A.’s middle relief corps is racking up huge numbers of innings and appearances.

    Two of the top six leaders in innings pitched belong to the Dodgers, Ramon Troncoso and Ronald Belisario; combined, they are on pace to throw almost 200 innings. It will be interesting to see how the L.A. bullpen holds up down the stretch; GM Ned Colletti is said by others to be searching for pitching.

    ————————————————

    I hope Torre now realizes why those Joba rules were invented.

  38. Bob(the original) June 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    That’s not fair.

    We have to play with 8 guys?

    Well, maybe it’s better that way if the alternative is Berroa. lol

  39. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    No 3rd baseman, either. Strange

    ================================

    At 3rd base for the NY Yankees-um..a poltergeist?
    :)

  40. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    jpb1973
    June 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
    one person supposedly said “you’re hurting the team” and I’m sure that will get blown up by the media.

    the real story is that ARod didn’t follow Dr’s orders. The team should have been giving him rest.
    ———————————————————————————-

    You’ve got to give Heyman credit for weeding out all of the BS and finding out the truth. It appears there are many ways for a situation to be spun and usually the incorrectly spun version is the first one to emerge.

    ————————————————————

    Heyman hasn’t “weeded” out anything. He would have trouble weeding out a flower garden. He doesn’t get any information that isn’t provided by Boras.

  41. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Are you people implying that Berroa is a better option at 3rd base than me???? :-)

  42. Ed H. June 20th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    When I think about Alex and his medical issues I also think about Mickey Mantle. Like Alex, The Mick came up with tremendous ability, off-the-charts potential and burdened with crushing expectations. Alex turned to roids to deal with the expectations but the Mick turned to alcohol and women.

    Because he didn’t take care of himself (in part) and because he pressured himself to play even when hurt, Mick wound up reducing his productivity and taking years off his career. Still he is a god in NY. It’s starting to look like Alex may have many similarities to The Mick in their career paths. Yet, Alex is despised. Yes, the times are different. Overall, it doesn’t seem right.

  43. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Ed H-

    You are forgetting one huge difference between the two of them.

    Mickey Mantle had world series rings

  44. m June 20th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Maybe Cash & Girardi are conferencing on who should be at 3B?

    Berroa?
    Pena?
    Alex?

    Alex may be trying to needle his way back in.

  45. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    JT, I don’t think you can blame Torre for Quantrill. He only pitched for Torre for one year (2004), which was the fourth straight year he had appeared in at least 80 games.
    2001, with Toronto – 80 games
    2002 with LAD – 86 games
    2003 with LAD – 89 games
    2004 with NYY – 86 games.

    And Karsay had had arm issues virtually his entire career before he came to Torre…

  46. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    “Alex may be trying to needle his way back in.”

    m, pun intended?

    :)

  47. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Ed H. – there’s another difference. Using roids is cheating. Drinking and womanizing is something completely different. You could argue that someone who takes PEDs is actually trying to better his performance and thus help the team, while drinking and carousing till all hours shows a disregard for yourself and the team, but still. The Mick would almost surely have much better numbers had he toned down his off-field activities. Would Alex’s numbers be where they are today without PEDs?

  48. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    I think we’ll see ARod pinch hitting tonight.

    It could be a very close, low-scoring game (of course you never know…).

    There could very well be a big moment in the 7th inning or later where AJ (or the active pitcher) comes up with runners on.

    ARod will at least get a chance to give the whiny Florida fans/media to get their money’s worth.

  49. m June 20th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    erica or fran,

    I see the dominoes patch on the Mets home uni. :)

  50. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Fran (the original) and OPPC member
    June 20th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
    Erica, amazing recovery from the flu. A few weeks ago you couldn’t move and now you are at 3rd base for the NYY

    ————————————————————

    There’s only one answer for that kind of rapid recovery….steroids.

    There’s also only one reason for catching the flu.

    I can see the ongoing subject threads about you probable continued usage.

  51. JT June 20th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Dutch Hugo,

    The problem with Torre was not just the appearances but all the dry humps in the pen. He would warm guys up almost every single day even if he didn’t use them.

  52. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    It’ll be Pena vs a RHP.

  53. m June 20th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Tom,

    No! Good catch. I can’t take credit for that one.

  54. Rose June 20th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Great job by Andy last night. Hopefully, AJ follows suit.

    ===============================================================

    Mantle drank booze-not illegal.
    Alex did PEDs-illegal without a RX.

  55. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Papa Smurf: “I hope Posada learned a few things from Cervelli on how to call a game.”

    I thought this stupidity had been put to bed?
    Good God, some people don’t know when they’ve been shown to be completely misguided.

  56. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    m
    June 20th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    erica or fran,

    I see the dominoes patch on the Mets home uni.
    ***
    Haha. I knew they didn’t get rid of them. That would be like admitting they drew up the ugliest patch ever.

    (I do believe the Domino’s Corp could sue them for copyright infringement)

    Also, gotta love the idea of an inaugural season patch that doesn’t have a picture of the stadium, the team logo, or anything actually relevent to the team. Those silly Mets ;-)

  57. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    JT – Every manager warms guys up and then sometimes doesn’t use them. I agree Torre has his favorites, and he rides them until they drop. I just think you’re reaching with Quantrill and Karsay.

  58. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    GB7-

    That kind of crossed the line. I was really sick 3 weeks ago. I am feeling a lot better now- but still not totally my former spiffy self. And I definitely stay away from illegal drugs

  59. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    “Using ‘roids is cheating”

    What sanctimonious nonsense.

    Is coming into the clubhouse hungover and popping some unprescribed pep pills cheating? By your standard it must be, which means just about every MLB player from the 30s thru the 2000s is a cheater.

  60. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 20th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    m, Erica’s right about the ugly patch. Matches all of the other hundreds of ads all over the outside of the stadium.

  61. miggs June 20th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Anyone playing 3rd base today?

    Are we playng with 8 starters today?

    That Girardi sure is overconfident.

  62. m June 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    erica & fran,

    And it’s so darn big!

  63. Bob(the original) June 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    It’s Berroa at 3rd tonight.

  64. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    It’s also illegal to have oral sex in many US states.

    Point being – laws, rules, morals are all up for debate. Yes, even official US laws.

    I’m not saying steroids are not cheating. I personally believe it is cheating.

    But so many people were doing it AND the people administering the league allowed it.

    Don’t blame individuals.

    Blame the entire league as a whole.

  65. charlie June 20th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Does Pete Abe ever read the comments?? THERES STILL 8 GUYS IN THE LINEUP AND NO 3rd BASEMAN. WHY???

  66. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    86w183 – it is certainly widely seen as “cheating.” Interestingly, I almost added that to my post, that it’s “seen as” cheating. I don’t pretend to be a doctor, and I don’t pretend to know all the effects using PED’s has on the body, strength, and what it adds to performance. Although, just looking at the stats put up by some of those who did them (McGwire, Sosa, Bonds), I’d say it enhanced their performance artificially.

    Coming into a clubhouse hungover?
    Did you even read my post? In it I said that some might even consider what Mantle did to be cheating the team.

  67. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    charlie
    June 20th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
    Does Pete Abe ever read the comments?? THERES STILL 8 GUYS IN THE LINEUP AND NO 3rd BASEMAN. WHY???
    ****
    BECAUSE NO ONE BELIEVES ME THAT I AM PLAYING 3RD BASE!!!!
    AND I AM BATTING 8TH :-)

  68. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    I don’t know, he’s on third.

  69. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    charlie
    June 20th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
    Does Pete Abe ever read the comments?? THERES STILL 8 GUYS IN THE LINEUP AND NO 3rd BASEMAN. WHY???
    ****
    Pete is probably too busy in the clubhouse doing pregame interviews and stuff to care what we are writing. Give him a break!

  70. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Oh, and 86w183 — according to MLB rules and regs, it is cheating.

  71. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Let us talk about he bullpen.

    Since Edwar, Albaladejo and Veras were purged it has been doing well.

    Now there are defined roles with Mo 9th, Bruney/Coke in 8th, Hughes/Aceves/Robertson in 7th/6th and Tomco for mop up. If Bruney stays healthy it is a pretty good group.

    Also, we will see Melancon probalbly before Septmber or as September call up.

    Barring injuries, I do not think there is a need for trade. The key is starters giving length in which case this group can be lights out.

    What do you think?

  72. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Posada & AJ ?

    GI Joe let Fatcessa influence the starting rotation combo, just my god AJ and Georgy have no chemistry whatsoever on the pitch by pitch basis.

  73. VC 11 June 20th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Hey Pete,

    How ’bout an update, like who’s playin’ third base?!

    :)

  74. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    “Oh, and 86w183—according to MLB rules and regs, it is cheating.”

    ——-

    guess all those MLB execs, owners, GMs etc that knew it was going on should be suspended, prosecuted, fired, stoned, or perhaps tarred and feathered?

  75. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Boston Dave – I agree 100%.
    MLB knew it was going on. General managers and owners knew it was going on. And you have to look at media too, like ESPN. They had to know something was going on, yet they continued (and still do) to glorify the home run.
    All of these folks were making huge money off all the home run records, and now they are like Captain Renault in Casablanca: “I’m shocked, shocked that gambling is going on here!”

  76. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    “guess all those MLB execs, owners, GMs etc that knew it was going on should be suspended, prosecuted, fired, stoned, or perhaps tarred and feathered?”

    Totally irrelevant thought-
    There is not enough tarring in 21st Century America.

  77. Ed H. June 20th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Erica and Dutch Hugo,

    Both are good points and I’m sure partially explain people’s reactions to ARod. I never liked the guy but am actually starting to feel bad for him. Part of it though is that I ad a real problem with how well accepted Giambi was during his time here. Like Alex, he was supposed to lead us to championships, made a ton of money, cheated, way underperformed as his body broke down and never got a ring. Yet, fans and the press like him. Jason even begged out of the lineup during a WS game and didn’t work half as hard as ARod.

  78. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    The steriod issue was first brought up at a Union/Owners meeting in 1998. And everyone was making way too much money to care

  79. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    We had a chance to sweep this series, this will be the one game we lose, Cisco should be catching tonight.

  80. linkoln June 20th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Comparing opt-out primadonna A-Rod to Mantle? A-Rod can’t even sniff MM’s jock strap. Cut the nonsense. How some folks try to defend that goon is amazing.

  81. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    I think as time progresses Giambi’s time in pinstripes will be largely forgotten. Players not named Don Mattingly who don’t win World Series rings while wearing Pinstripes tend to get lost in the Yankee folklore

  82. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    I think I’m being misread here. I am not piling on ARod for using PEDs. My comments earlier were purely regarding the comparison of Mantle and Arod’s situations.

    I think it’s ridiculous that ARod is the only one taking all this heat for using, when there are hundreds of guys who tested positive. I think even Manny is getting a much easier go of it from the media than Alex.

    Personally, I wish all the names of positive testers would be released, so fans know who was using and who wasn’t. Because right now, everyone is under suspicion, and that’s not fair to the guys who didn’t do it.

  83. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Erica – Or feathering! (it’s a very important component)

  84. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Dutch Hugo,

    Agreed. It doesn’t make what the players did right but the blame is shared.

    I just hope they can solve this and put it in the past. Accept that the league was seriously flawed as a whole and take the steps to prevent it from happening again.

    There will always be attempts to cheat… but that isn’t an excuse not to do everything you can to stop it.

    You think Casinos say “well, people are going to cheat. no reason for us to try to stop it” ?

  85. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Darn- Berroa is playing 3rd base and batting 8th instead of me.

    I must have made Girardi mad in my last postgame comments to the media

  86. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    It could be worse.

    It’s not like ARod is taking time off to star on NBC’s “I’m a Celebrity. Get Me Outta Here!”

  87. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Greta lay off the caffeine 8O

  88. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Boston Dave – Well, cheating a casino (and their well-connected owners) takes some huge testes.
    And we all know how ‘roid use affects them…

  89. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Erica – age before beauty.

  90. m June 20th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    2 nights in a row for Berroa? At his age?

    lol, Brandon. I thought the same thing. She sure is chatty.

  91. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Who is Greta?

  92. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Cervelli and CC tomorrow? They must really want to win that one.

    How come not tonight?

  93. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Brandon,

    You can’t afford to have both Cervelli and Berroa’s bat in the lineup with A-Rod out.

    And for the MILLIONTH time, Burnett is responsible for Burnett. He’s had trouble throwing strikes consistently his whole career.

    This is nothing new. To paraphrase Dennis Green, A.J. Burnett is who we thought he was.

    He’s wild as a buck with great strikeout ability. Jorge Posada didn’t catch him in previous years, and it’s been the same story.

    For crying out loud Burnett walked NINE batters when he threw his no-hitter. The most ridiculous no hitter ever.

  94. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Berroa getting the nod is puzzling (to me at least)

    Girardi loves playing the matchups (lefty/righty) so it seems like a lock that Pena would start.

    Pete, get on the case…

  95. m June 20th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    It took 52 minutes into the broadcast for the crew to mention the generosity of NYS.

  96. Ed H. June 20th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Using roids is cheating and yes, it matters. You can’t absolve individual responsibility by saying that everyone did it or that the powers that be colluded. Each player who used, whether we ever know their name or not, was wrong, including Alex Rodriguez.

    Dutch Hugo, I agree that Mantle cheated the team with his drinking and carousing. Ultimately, despite a few years of inflated production, Alex will also be seen as cheating the team as it is saddled with him and his contract when he can no longer perform. But Giambi baffles me. How did he get a pass, even if his Yankee tenure is viewed as inconsequential. Isn’t that the point though? $20 mil per and inconsequential. The dude begged out of the lineup during a World Series!

  97. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    “lol, Brandon. I thought the same thing. She sure is chatty.”

    I mean she just wouldn’t STHU, it was like a run on Ellen Degeneres and sort of bimbo like b/c she didn’t even know what she was talking about and then the praising of Brett Farve…I mean just STHU ! :x

  98. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    BB Fan – the wildcard is Hughes. Is he going to stay in the bullpen? If Wang keeps improving, will Hughes be sent back down to start? Injuries are always a wildcard too. I agree though, as presently constituted, the bullpen is probably going to be handled from within. I can’t see Cashman going out and giving up a lot to get someone for the pen. I mean, let’s face it, who’s out there that you feel absolutely sure about would be lights out? Relievers are tricky. Guys can be great for half a season, then it falls apart…

  99. Doreen June 20th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Hi Everyone!

    I just got back from the Yankee Stadium Tour. We had a blast. Very different feel when there’s no game going on. And it was gray and rainy, but we started with lunch at the Hard Rock (three birthday parties going on for single-digit-aged boys – yay!) Cafe, then the 1:20 tour.

    I felt like a photojournalist, snapping all kinds of pictures, constantly bringing up the rear of the group and being told to “move along,” but nicely.

    I’ve got a lot to do to get ready for a Father’s Day BBQ (well, we’ll cook the meat outside :( ), so just briefly. Swishers locker collage is awesome. The clubhouse is gorgeous, Monument Park could have been done better, but it is still impressive, where the have the balls in the museum, well, the set up is pretty creative. They have a Don Larsen statue at one end at the release point of his windup and the first ball on the “ball wall” is signed by him, then the wall follows the trajectory of his pitch all the way down to a state of Yogi in his crouch, and the last ball is signed by Yogi, with tons of balls on a wall in between. Awesome. The WS trophies are spectacular.

    Uncle E – If you are here, I did ask about Gehrig’s bat. We had a Tourguide in Training and he did not know. :( My husband said he thought he saw it still at the old Stadium in a recent picture showing the current state of the interior demolition of the stadium.

    I quickly read Pete’s recent posts, especially the one about sticking to the ARod plan. I am in total agreement. And I will never understand how a company (team) that pays a player millions allows the player to dictate whether he plays or not. It should have been a directive from Cashman to Girardi to ARod and it should have been scheduled rests, no negotiation allowed. It seems that now they will pay for that – ARod will pay for that. And let’s hope he’s not really wearing down, that he’s just fatigued. Hip surgery is no small thing, not even for a guy he has historically healed well.

    I took oh, so many pictures. I’m exhausted. It was great.

    Be back after I make the cole slaw and cherry pie!

  100. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Dutch — We can agree on that. I think you generated the responses today because you insist on labeling someone a “cheater”. Accusatory, condemning language is bound to generate a response.

    My reference to Mantle and hangovers also included the oft-ignored ampthetemine abuse which went on for decades, was clearly illegal and more performancing enhancing than steroids for that particular day.

    Competitors are always looking to gain an edge and always will. If you want to call Alex a cheater that’s your right. My point is pro sports at all levels are loaded with “cheaters” and yet only a handful of baseball players carry that laebel and it is hypocritical and it is unfair and it is sanctimonious to claim the high ground on those and only those cases.

    In this instance the sanctimony I accuse is not you but the media types that happily looked the other way for about 10-15 year.

    I keep hoping Selig will take a public stance that in essence wipes the slate clean on everything that occurred prior to 2003 and assigns equal measures of guilt to all those involved in the game. But you can’t expect the man to accept accountability since he’s dodged it for more than a decade.

    I guess I don’t get the mindset that someone who does something to get better and help his team win is evil incarnate. To me, guys who are out of shape, don’t hustle and call in “sick” on a regular basis are bnigger cheaters than anyone who took PEDs in an attempt to get even better.

  101. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Berroa did get a RBI double last night. Let’s see if he can ride this hot streak :-)

    If Girardi started Pena instead everyone would be criticizing him for not playing the hot player.. lol

  102. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    According to WEEI in Boston, Daisuke Matsuzaka’s next start will be skipped.

  103. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Matsuzaka will be examined by team physician Dr. Thomas Gill and the Red Sox training staff to determine if a physical problem is behind his poor performance.

  104. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Erica what century hasn’t he had an RBI double why waste this kid, especially when JJ is a RH flamethrower that Berroa won’t have any chance against. I mean you’d think the LHB would have a better chance vs him.. No ?

  105. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    I smell a DL stint for Dice-K. Maybe he has toe fatigue. I hear that is a very serious ailment

  106. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Ed H., I’m not saying Mantle cheated the team. I’m saying some could view it that way. Mantle had his own demons. Alcoholism is a disease, and I’m not about to say that his drinking was anything he had control over.

    As for Giambi, I wasn’t happy when he couldn’t play that game in ’03, but I wasn’t there, I don’t know how bad his knee was.

    I think maybe one of the reasons Giambi gets more of a pass, anyway, is that he came clean (sort of) and apologized. Plus, he seems like a really likeable guy. I’m sure that plays into it.

  107. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Sounds like you had a great time Doreen! :)

  108. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    No offense Brandon, but I hope Berroa goes 3 for 3 to spite you ;-)

    Okay, really- I will settle for one hit in the game

  109. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Doreen,

    Hope you post the pictures you took on your tour…

    And thanks for the encouraging words regarding the haiku!

    Let’s Go Yanks!

  110. m June 20th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Not surprising about Matsuzaka. Too bad he didn’t start sucking until after the trade deadline. They might just hold on to Penny.

    Erica,

    Greta von something or other from Fox. I just heard this lady prattling on nervously about the Milwaukee Braves who came from Boston who went to Atlanta. She might be a Vikings fan if Favre signs, but she’ll be torn if they play the Packers. And they flashed her name and the exclusive she had with Favre totally made sense. She’s fine on Fox, but dang she was nervous or wired or something. Skittish.

  111. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Guys of the 30s-90s and beyond all “cheated” because illegal amphetemines were as common in clubhouses as dirty laundry. Spitballers were cheaters. Scuffers were cheaters. Corkers were cheaters. Guys who pretend to catch balls they don’t catch are cheaters. Guys who pretend pitches hit them that didn’t are cheaters.

    How the hell is it that one form of cheating is evil and all others are just part of the game? I don’t get it and I don’t accept it.

    Now if you fail a drug test, that’s a totally different ballgame. Now you have intentionall violated a specific rule. Prior to 2003 a rule against “illegal drugs” with no form of testing or punishment is meaningless. It’s like it being illegal to walk your pet elephant downtown.

  112. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Oh- I know that Greta woman. She is the one who had the nose job because she said she was getting pressure about not being attractive enough for TV

  113. Joe from Long Island June 20th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Doreen – I’m very happy for you. You had a great day. I’m envious. Someday, maybe in the offseason, we’ll do it.

    Boy, BBQ with homemade cherry pie – my mouth is watering! Time for me to start dinner. Grilling sausage. No cherry pie, though.

    Let’s go Yankees, and win tonight.

  114. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    “No offense Brandon, but I hope Berroa goes 3 for 3 to spite you”

    If father time goes 3 for 3 I’ll lead the rendition to “This Old Man” on this blog. :)

  115. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    “If father time goes 3 for 3 I’ll lead the rendition to “This Old Man” on this blog.”

    Brandon- I actually just laughed really loud. Watching you lead the rendition of “This Old Man” would probably bring me much more gratification than the 3 for 3

    On that note, I am out of here for a while. See you all some point during the game. Let’s Go Yankees!

  116. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Berroa will be striking out 3 times, unfortunately.

    They should have batted Burnett 8th. The Marlins might have intentionally walked him to get to the old man.

    It’s not just a knock on Angel. It’s the fact that he couldn’t catch up to a 97mph heater in his prime.

  117. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Whoever that Greta was on fox she sure was on something :?

    *lazy walk to 1st*

    (ohh you see that’s why I love the Mets) uhh..ok :?

  118. Eric June 20th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Posada and AJ?

    Good job by Girardi, putting AJ in the best position to succeed :?

  119. Distd June 20th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    The Sr. Citzen has no chance against a hard throwing righty like Joe Johnson

    Pena and his lefty pop would have been the smarter choice

  120. Home Run Predictions June 20th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Today I predict homers from Teix, and Cano, and Angel (jk) lol

  121. Ed H. June 20th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Dutch Hugo,

    I guess that I see Alex as someone who is fighting demons too. I think that it’s the disparity between the way he is treated and the way that others with similar issues have been treated that is making me see him more sympathetically than I did. And that’s a good thing, I suppose. I don’t like to see people being bullied, and even though Alex supplied the paint with which the bullseyes are painted on his chest, I think that it’s time to give the guy a break.

  122. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    86w183 – I agree. I think the term “steroids” gets thrown around a lot, sometimes without much thought or investigation into what the drugs were used for, how often they were being used, etc. It’s a complicated issue, much more complicated, I think, than it’s presented.

    Still, when you look at the home run stats, it’s pretty obvious they were/are inflated. And, as you point out, the rules before 2003 were ridiculous. Ownership turned a blind eye because they were raking in the $$$.

  123. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    I hope Berroa goes 4-4 and AJ throws a great game and afterwards says “I guess it wasn’t the catcher after all” and we all get a nice chuckle.

  124. Clark June 20th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    This is going to be a very tough game tonight… Johnson may be the most underrated pitcher in baseball.

  125. Joey's Poodle June 20th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Lohud posters in their wisdom are so right about the dreadful Torre!

    Every time I look at the standings I realize how lucky we are not to have that guy around here anymore!

    Can’t imagine how we stood it for 12 years.

    Luckily for LAD he’s retiring after next year, so they and their bp will only have to put up with him for 3 years.

    Meantime they’ll just have to grit their teeth and bear up.

  126. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    this is an L already IMHO. We may have had a chance w/ Cisco catching and calling the game but Georgy w/ AJ…nah

  127. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Ed H. – I feel the same way re. the bullying. I watch ESPN and MLBTV and the on-air guys, particularly the former players, bend over backwards to defend/praise every player — except ARod. At least it seems that way sometimes. They are a bunch of sycophants when it comes to criticizing players. But there are a very few exceptions. Guys who they perceive the public has turned against so then it’s ok to go after them. In many cases it’s a Yankee because, as we all know, there are a lot of Yankee haters out there.

  128. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Clark

    either Johnson, Matt Cain, maybe even Greinke still

  129. Bulldoza June 20th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    We need Nady to get healthy soon so we can trade him for Jonathan Sanchez!!!

  130. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    There goes Santa’s no-no

  131. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Yhttp://www.nypost.com/seven/06202009/sports/yankees/sources__yankees_sign_dominican_catcher__175236.htm

    Yankees signed the big IFA catcher Gary Sanchez.

  132. Angel (F) - 'Cos you know I was OPP(C), hell from the very start June 20th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Players not named Don Mattingly who don’t win World Series rings while wearing Pinstripes tend to get lost in the Yankee folklore

    ******************************************

    Someone better tell that to Aaron Boone.

  133. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Bulldoza 1
    Brandon 0

  134. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Noel Arguelles aka Liriano Jr. is next.

  135. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    Brandon 2

    Bulldoza 0

    Nick in SF 0

  136. DMan June 20th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Sanchez isin’t enough for Nady

    But if we could expand the deal and include Matsui and Veras for Brian Wilson AND Sanchez, I would be willing to consider that.

  137. R+ June 20th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Isin’t Cena the guy who said A-Rod should go to jail for using steroids?

  138. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    “•The Yankees are unlikely to trade Nick Swisher or Xavier Nady when the latter returns from an elbow injury because of the club’s needs. Olney also mentions that they wouldn’t be able to get full market value for Nady because of his injury.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....sburg.html

  139. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Nah, he punked you on trading Nady for Sanchez after you called the game a loss ‘cos the master game-caller wasn’t in the lineup.

    You think AJ is some kind of a head case?

  140. Ed H. June 20th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Dutch Hugo,

    It’s ironic that the piling on against ARod has turned someone like me, who couldn’t stand the guy, into a supporter. In the beginning, I didn’t see the validity behind posters complaints about how Pete treats Alex but increasingly, I do.

    86w183,

    I totally agree that cheating is cheating and none of it should be condones. Some cheating, however, is more consequential than others. Long ago, the cheating involved in certain players using PEDs crossed the line into downright corruption. It connected to every facet of the sport for an entire generation. That’s what, in my opinion, makes this worse.

  141. Zolio June 20th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Smoke Screen by Cashman, saying he isn’t trading Nady

    He just wants the Giants to get desperate enough where they offer us Pablo Sandoval.

  142. steve June 20th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    “You think AJ is some kind of head case?”

    lol. rhetorician question

  143. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    hey brandon..do you think signing sanchez (allegedly) takes us out of the running for Sano?…

  144. m June 20th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ent.1.html

    Iconic Yankee photo gallery.

    Some interesting ones. Players jumping out of a cab in uni & glove in St. Pete’s. #20 is Jorge getting all GQ. And I never realized that past a diving Jeter was iconic. :?

  145. JoeT 28 in 10!! June 20th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    BAD NEWS: I’m standing at the gates to get in the game, they’re giving away cow bells :(

  146. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Girardi is having Posada catch tonight to shut up Francessa. He wants to prove that AJ doesn’t have a problem with Posada.

  147. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    cow bells?? I thought that was a Tampa thing, not a Miami thing

  148. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    This AJ/Jorge thing is a joke.

    Jorge is the starting catcher for this team. If the Yankees make the playoffs, AJ will not be pitching to Cervelli or Molina – that I can promise you. AJ’s a big boy – if he’s not man enough to shake Posada off or throw what he wants to, then that’s on him (it’s not an AJ thing either – it’s on all the pitchers). AJ threw just fine to Posada against Texas, both times I believe.

    AJ will be fine….

  149. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    m, I really liked the photo of Tino, Jeter and Mo. They were so young.

  150. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    The Cubs are beating Kerry Wood like he’s a bad habit. Second game in a row he’s blown the save.

  151. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    the cleveland bullpen sucks! with a one-run lead in the 13, they allowed the cubs to tie it up

  152. stuart a June 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    yeah trading a 29 yr old OF with a bad elbow and a FA at the end of the year for a young and talented lefty pitcher is not enough on the pitchers side!!!!!!!!!!!

    what are you smoking…..

    berroa instead of pena!!!!!!!!why, pena hits well lefty…….

  153. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    and are about to lose

  154. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Cubs walkoff on a wild pitch

  155. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    “hey brandon..do you think signing sanchez (allegedly) takes us out of the running for Sano?…”

    Doubt it, his age is the concern. $$$ here should be no problem,, honestly I’d rather go after the LHP Arguelles.

    I’m wondering is Jesus imminent move to RF coming soon.

  156. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    on a wild pitch…

    unbelievable

  157. steve June 20th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    “Girardi is having Posada catch tonight to shut up Francessa. He wants to prove that AJ doesn’t have a problem with Posada.”

    Agree. Very bad decision by him and even worse reasoning. Who gives a damn what Francessa wants?

  158. Arizz June 20th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    If AJ gets lit up tonight (50-50 proposition everytime he takes the mound) we all know where the blame is going :D

  159. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    “berroa instead of pena!!!!!!!!why”

    Bacasue he earned it with good play yesterday both offensively and defensively.

  160. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Kerry Wood just confirmed why the Cubs let him walk away at the end of the season last year. He sucks.

  161. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Posada catching tonight = best lineup available tonight for the pitcher who probably needs the help and it means two consecutive days off for Posada if Cervelli goes tomorrow.

  162. Killa Cali June 20th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    AJ threw to Cash in Texas when he shut them out for 6 innings

    He threw to Posada the other time.

    Either way, this is just more example of Girardi’s stubbornness.

  163. JoeT 28 in 10!! June 20th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Bells are awful – Pete will have an update as to how bad they are soon lol

  164. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    “If AJ gets lit up tonight (50-50 proposition everytime he takes the mound) we all know where the blame is going ”

    Posada will get the blame, but the truth is that it’s up to AJ to get over whatever issue he has with Jorge. If he has an issue with the pitches that Jorge calls, talk to him about it and try and work it out.

  165. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    It is unbeleivable that Cleveland has the worst record in the majors.

  166. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    steve, that’s just Laura’s speculation. There is no way that Jorge is catching tonight to shut Francesca up…..and I don’t see how this is an example of Joe’s stubborness. It’s pathetic how Jorge gets blamed for a pitcher’s problems.

  167. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Washington Nationals have the worst in the Majors.

  168. Joe June 20th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Girardi already lost one part of the battle– letting Francessa dictate his personal moves

  169. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Yeah, right – Joe cares what Francesca thinks. I could say that I believe the sky is purple – it doesn’t make it so.

  170. stuart a June 20th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    yea it is girardis stubbornes to not listen to dumb bloggers about who should catch whom??????????

    are you guys clowns , don’t answer it I know the answer.

    if burnett pitches bad tonight I know who to blame…some guy named burnett morons……………

    you guys are literally clowns….you think girardi gives acrap what some 15 yr old blogger thinks about the lineup or who catches who!!!!!!!!!!

    get out of your basement and live a little………

  171. Homer June 20th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Our record at home against the Washington Generals and Cleveland Indians is 3-4.

  172. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Dutch—-

    We’re not too far off here, but to be a guy who “cheats” to get better and win is more acceptable than a guy who “Cheats” like Pavano cheated the game and his team.

    If everyone in baseball circa 1990-2003 is responsible for the seteroid era than everyone should share responsibility. It appears to me that a handful of players are taking the brunt of the blame/stigma and perhaps paying the price with denial into Cooperstown and that’s just not right by any standard.

    We have no idea how many players took steroids or for how often they did it. We don’t know for certian anyone is clean any more than we know that Alex only did steroids for three years. To me just move on….. and punish the hell out of those who test(ed) positive since the 2004 testing program went int effect.

    All done on this subject

  173. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    “steve, that’s just Laura’s speculation. There is no way that Jorge is catching tonight to shut Francesca up”

    Betsy, didn’t anyone tell you that my speculations are always 100% right? :P

    Did you hear Francessa grilling Girardi yesterday? I thought I was watching an episode of Law and Order. At any moment, I expected Joe to take the fifth. Francessa has been saying that “he’s been hearing” that pitchers don’t want to throw to Jorge. He needed Joe to back him up. He didn’t. If AJ tanks, it will just start all over again.

  174. m June 20th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    This has more to do with getting Jorge’s bat into the lineup without Alex. He probably wants squash whatever catcher controversy that remains.

    If AJ likes a game called a certain way, it’s up to him to take the lead.

  175. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    “Washington Nationals have the worst in the Majors.”

    Sorry I meant AL.
    It is unbeleivable that Cleveland has the worst record in AL.

  176. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    “It is unbeleivable that Cleveland has the worst record in AL.”

    Before the season started, I bet a friend of mine that CLE would win the Central. I’ll be mailing him a check soon.

  177. Scott June 20th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    This Jorge debate is so hilarious.

    Who the hell is AJ Burnett?

    If he was a HOF type pitcher like Mussina or Randy who has been constantly dominant for an extended periods of time, then the catcher can be debated if the results are less than favorable.

    Burnett has no leg to stand on, either do the Posada truthers in this instance considering Burnett is a nobody with no track record of extended dominance.

  178. Vin R June 20th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    AJ Burnett’s career has been mediocrity and inconsistency. Great arm, average results. The catcher for him is meaningless considering his career has defined inconsistency and underachievement. He has probably had 15 catchers in his entire career and not one of them has gotten him to pitch up to his ability. So why should Jorge be blamed when he doesn’t?

  179. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Laura, nope – I didn’t listen to Mike all day yesterday. As to what the guy is hearing, I wouldn’t believe him if he said there were 24 hours in a day; he’s nothing more than a gossip. I don’t buy his stupid so-called inside information either….the same people who insist that the players don’t like Joe. Francesca is just an arrogant horse’s patootie who thinks he knows it all.

  180. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Please – AJ never said ANYTHIGN about a personal catcher – this is all just mad speculation. Perhaps he misspoke with his comments about Cervelli, but sheesh – it’s not HIS fault that people are making a freaking big deal out of it.

  181. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Carlos Pena strikes again.

  182. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Anything……

  183. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Once again, AJ never criticised Po.
    He praised Cervelli which he deserved.
    Why make it a big deal.
    Certainly he did not object to pitch to Po today.
    There is no reason to villify him.

  184. PC Dan June 20th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    That Francessa interview was such a joke.

    He asked Girardi questions that Girardi had no way to answer. How is he supposed to answer the questions about the old guard not liking him or the pitchers wanting to throw to Cervelli? All he can do is deny, even if there is truth to it.

    Francessa looks good for asking the tough questions, but you can not expect any manager to answer those questions with anything but a generic response.

  185. linkoln June 20th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    It’s starting to rain in Queens, if the Mets wanna win they better hurry.

  186. m June 20th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Jonathan Papelbon grouped reporters together to strongly strike down a report that he would be willing to sign with the New York Yankees. “I don’t want to go (expletive) play for the Yankees,” he said. “I’ve been on a team for the past five years that’s been in first place more than any other (expletive) team otherwise. Why would I want to leave?” Papelbon said he was “nowhere even close” to suggesting he would sign with the Yankees. “Sometimes in these quotes they only see what they want to see,” he said. “[The Red Sox] don’t owe me nothing,” he said. “This team doesn’t need me. I need the Red Sox more than the Red Sox need me.” He said that where he signs when his contract expires in 2011 only has to do with how happy he is.

    ————————

    Too bad he didn’t hurt himself backpedalling.

  187. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

    great story on Joe and his dad

  188. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    This is not good for AJ b/c he has no real rythmn w/ Georgy, they aren’t on the same pg. …I just hope we can tag Johnson if not this is the one game in the series we won’t win.

    Well later people. :D

  189. DMan June 20th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Joba is the only one who had the guts to not give into Posada

    Props to him.

  190. Eastport June 20th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    AJ looked great when he we giving up bomb after bomb to the Phillies with Kevin Cash catching him

    Stop blaming the catcher. As the guy above said, Burnett has been an underachiever regardless of catcher.

  191. brian June 20th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    It’s funny how worked up the people in florida are getting about arod…after all they do have two of theyre own teams down there, but somehow are all yankee fans…nothing worse than front runners.

  192. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    A trick question.

    To be guaranteed a spot in the playoffs, taking all kinds of possibilities into account, in what position record wise yanks should finish in AL (eaxample 4th)?

  193. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    m is correct, it’s about trying to win the game and Posada gives the team the best chance to do that.

  194. Jerzz June 20th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    Papelbon is a ticking time bomb with that shoulder. He will also be 31 when he is a free agent. Sox will rightfully let him walk and replace him with someone younger. Rather than paying a declining closer $15 million dollars.

    MO defied the odds with his longevity. It doesn’t happen in the reliever world.

  195. CB June 20th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    I see the Posada Truthers are back.

    Amazing how all of the people wanting to blame a pitcher’s performance on the catcher completely disappeared after Joba threw his last game with Cervelli behind the plate.

    Amazing that even with the “Cisco” the sheppard guiding Joba threw the treacherous reaches of the major leagues Joba pitched almost exactly the same as he did the game before when Posada was catching him and far, far, far worse than that Cleveland game where Joba was brilliant – and gasp – with Posada behind the plate.

    Imagine that – Joba’s best game pitched was with Posada behind the plate.

    But the Posada Truthers are back now that AJ is starting. And you can see it coming now. If AJ is pitching well the Posada Truthers will melt away into the background again – just like they did with Joba’s last start throwing to Cervelli. But if AJ pitches poorly they’ve set the foundation for the completely illogical argument that it will be Posada’s fault that one of the most wildly inconsistent pitchers of his generation happens to throw badly on a particular night.

    Amazing how convenient “heads I win, tails you lose” arguments are.

  196. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    “I’m wondering is Jesus imminent move to RF coming soon.”

    signing a 16 year old from DR is not gonna make them move montero…they’ll move him because he just cant catch, which is still not apparent…

  197. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    “Joba is the only one who had the guts to not give into Posada

    Props to him.”

    Yeah, Joba looked great shaking off Posada so he could throw a bunch of sliders six inches off the plate and not use his fastball at all. Yeah, props to him.

    Good grief.

    Does anybody actually watch the games?

  198. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    lol, Nick.

    I was hurt, thought you were beginning to ignore me. ;)

  199. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Not this Posada stuff again.. :roll:

  200. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Stop bringing the Posada stuff up. Hes been a terrible catcher for years. Moving on.

  201. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    CB, Were you not surprised like myself when Giradi announced that Alex would be getting some long overdue rest…..That ab in the 1st Nationals game in the 9th on a 2-1 fastball that Alex fouled back was such a revealing picture that he’s not right……

  202. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    m: nah, I’m just glad you came around and dropped all that anti-Posada silliness.

  203. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    “Stop bringing the Posada stuff up. Hes been a terrible catcher for years. Moving on.”

    Moving on? Off this blog I hope so no one has to hear anymore of your nonsense.

  204. Tommy June 20th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    I am a Posada truther.

    If AJ potches a good game today, I wll say it is because he was facing a weak NL lineup and let me see him do it against an AL team

  205. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    I didn’t drop anything, Nick. I just choose to keep certain things to myself.

    And I’m not anti-Posada.

  206. CB June 20th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Pat M,

    Resting Alex was long overdue. He simply looked terrible rotating through the ball.

    It’s disconcerting how the team just kept convincing itself that Alex could keep playing despite the obvious evidence that he just wasn’t capable of doing it.

    I don’t understand the logic of a manager making the decision to rest or play a guy based on asking him how he was feeling when the evidence was so strong that the guy needed a rest (and this is outside of why they veered off the physician’s recommendations in the first place…). What are the chances that Alex is ever going to be honest and say I need a day off unless the situation becomes intolerable for him?

    The whole thing was just strange.

  207. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    If AJ Burnett can hit Posada’s mitt just 80 % of the time, he’ll breeze thru todays game….

  208. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    You’re still on that kick?

    I regret the error.

    :(

  209. TeeJay June 20th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Tommy
    June 20th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
    I am a Posada truther.

    If AJ potches a good game today, I wll say it is because he was facing a weak NL lineup and let me see him do it against an AL team

    ————————————————–

    That makes no sense Burnett as pitched plenty of good games against AL teams.

  210. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    CB, all the trolls (I have no idea what a “truther” is) disappeared yesterday while the Yankees were winning…….hmmm. These folks talk a big game and then can’t take their medicine when they are proven wrong. If AJ and Jorge are not on the same page, all they have to do is spend some time together – let AJ advise Jorge how he likes to pitch, let them go over things. After that, it’s incumbent up on AJ (or ANY pitcher – let’s not make this an AJ issue) to execute. Period.

  211. Justin June 20th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    My grandmother passed away this morning. She was a longtime Yankee fan and passed her fandom on to her children and grandchildren. Even in her illness, she loved to watch the Yankees. I am so glad that the last game she saw (last night) was a smack-down victory. I will be watching tonight and thinking of her.

  212. CB June 20th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Very good article on how baseball fans in general often fall in love with the backup catcher for no real reason and for how “catcher ERA” is a completely worthless stat.

    And this is written by a sabermatrician – if he’s telling you any stat is worthless it’s worthless. (h/t RAB).

    “Fans seem to fall in with reserve catchers. I don’t know why. I suspect it has to do with the mystique of being a defensive stalwart, one immeasurable by metrics known to man. Perhaps having to sit in the bullpen and warm pitchers up is something worthwhile. These guys are usually horrible hitters, the worst bats on the team that actually get paid to hit. Why? Because if they hit well, they would be playing.

    So, you have a player on each team who has writers, fans, and television folk talking up his game calling abilities and whatnot because saying that his entire value comes from squatting for four hours a week isn’t something you take pride in. Eventually it melts in. People start looking for things that feed this confirmation bias of Johnny McBackstop being a human computer. It becomes mainstay knowledge, and now every team in the league needs one of these veteran catchers, good at absolutely nothing outside of history lessons.”

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.c.....stop-using

  213. yanksfan7788 June 20th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    I’m at the game right now, I just saw tex get hit in the nuts in batting practice.

  214. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    CB, that is how I feel. Honestly, is Joe really the right man for the job? He’s cluelesss…..well actually, I don’t think he’s clueless, what he is is desperate. He’s so desperate to win that he will do anything to give him the best chance, including not resting his best player who desperately needed it. That’s where Joe Torre was good – he had the long view in mind. Frankly, I think Girardi is a bit myopic……

  215. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Ouch, Yanksfan……..poor Tex.

  216. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Condolences, Justin.

  217. gayle June 20th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    For all the people questioning Berroa how aboutthining about this. Jeter is stil hurting so if needs a blow or comes up lame they have Pena on the bench to come in.

    SOmehow I think that with Arod back tomorrow perhaps Jeter gets the day tomrrow and we see Pena at SS anyway.

  218. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Justin, sorry to hear about your grandmother…..

  219. Jeremy June 20th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    How long, exactly, does extended spring training go??? It’s almost July!

  220. Sea Net June 20th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    UPDATE, 6:13 p.m.: Mark Teixeira just left BP after fouling a ball off that glanced off the cage and caught him in the head. No word on whether he’ll stay in the lineup yet.

  221. WFDD June 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    how long does extended spring training last? its summer and nearly the all star break

  222. CB June 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    “If AJ Burnett can hit Posada’s mitt just 80 % of the time, he’ll breeze thru todays game….”

    Pat M,

    One of the most remarkable things about this whole debate is how so many people don’t even seem to watch the game.

    When AJ is bad – how often does he miss his spot? All of the time.

    When AJ struggles it’s remarkable who many times he will not throw the ball where the target is set up.

    The same thing for Joba when he is bad – he doesn’t hit his spots.

    So the whole idea that the catcher has any impact on pitcher’s like AJ and Joba are amazing. It’s irrelevant how “badly” posada theoretically calls a game or “frames a pitch” or “sets up.”

    The ball doesn’t hit the spot. That’s why the pitcher gets pelted.

  223. TeeJay June 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    If no Teixeira tonight the lineup will look awfully thin going against there ace.

  224. Mon June 20th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    It doesn’t matter if you think Joe is right for the job. If he makes the playoffs, he stays. So if you want him gone, then root for us to miss the playoffs.

  225. yanksfan7788 June 20th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    he was on the ground for like 3 min
    utes.

  226. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    His head? I just read here that he took it off something else, then I read on another board that he got hit on his foot……now his head? Oh man, poor Tex.

  227. Peter Abraham June 20th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Justin: My condolences to you and your family.

  228. JoeT 28 in 10!! June 20th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Teix went down pretty hard and fast, he got up and looked ok though after a minute or so, I think he’ll stay in the game based on what I saw from my seats down the left-field line :-D

  229. CB June 20th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Justin,

    My condolences. And thanks for the post. Often as fans we lose site of why we root for the team and love the game. Too often the outcomes of games seem to make people unhappy.

    It’s good to be reminded about the real reason to take an interest in baseball.

    Sorry for your loss.

  230. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Wow, unbelievable…..only the Yankees. I hope he’s ok…..and I wouldn’t play him. If the game is lost, the game is lost – no fooling with head injuries

  231. Doreen June 20th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Hope Teixeira is okay. :(

  232. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    If Tex can not go, it will be a major problem.
    If Swisher play 1B, who will play OF. Gardner is not ready yet…..

  233. jpb1973 June 20th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    It is unbeleivable that Cleveland has the worst record in the majors.

    ——————————————————–

    Its time to start thinking about which Indians we might want to acquire at the trade deadline. Victor Martinez? Mark Derosa? Jhonny Peralta (would make a great utility infielder)?

  234. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    People who know nothing about catching bangin’ on Posada.

    Comedy at it’s finest.

    Another crowd here tonight that’s 80% Pro-Yankee.

  235. Strike 3 June 20th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    All you chemistry-psychos wanted Girardi to turn into a player’s manager… right? well he has. He is allowing Pies, loud music, cool haircuts, kangaroo court etc.

    What’s the problem now? He is letting his players decide how to govern themselves. Unless you want them to go back to the robots…..

  236. TeeJay June 20th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    If no Teixiera and if Gardner cant play, Swisher would play first and I guess you have to have Matsui play right field.

  237. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Mon, I’m not rooting for Joe to be gone. I think he’s a really good guy and I like him personally. However, I admit I’m frustrated – he handled this thing as poorly as you could handle it. It’s very basic, managerial 101 – you protect the players from themselves, you don’t let them dictate when they play. Alex just had major surgery – how is Joe not aware that he needs some time off?

  238. CT23 June 20th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Its time to start thinking about which Indians we might want to acquire at the trade deadline. Victor Martinez? Mark Derosa? Jhonny Peralta (would make a great utility infielder)

    ***

    Kerry Wood.

  239. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Justin,

    My condolences.

  240. joe-seppi June 20th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    indians don’t have the worst record in the majors, that title goes to those (g)nats.

  241. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Alex will have a great pinch hit moment today.

  242. Dutch Hugo June 20th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    “I see the Posada Truthers are back.”

    Let’s call these people what they are, not by their own euphemism.

    They are the Posada Swift-Boaters.

  243. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Justin,

    I am so sorry for your loss. My grandma was a huge Yankee fan too. I used to love watching games with her. She’s been gone for 9 years now and sometimes I still have the urge to call her after big moments in a game.

    My heart goes out to you and your family. I hope she smiles down on the Yankees

  244. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Sorry, to hear about your grandmother, Justin. It’s nice that you both loved the Yankees and could share your time together like that.

  245. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    CB, I missed Joba’s last outing & just reading the box score it appeared to be another outing of falling behind and giving away ist base…..He’s not shown any improvement with his mound management…..Somewhere someone has the key that can unlock the door to begin to realize his great potential…..

  246. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Caught him in a bad place…

    Is that code for “it hit Tex in his guy parts???”

  247. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    SJ, are you at the game yet? Did you see Tex get hit?

  248. Rose June 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    I see the Posada haters are back. What an unwelcome sight.

    Girardi cares what Francesa says. Get a grip.

    And Torre did nothing when he was Yankee mgr. Only won some rings, is all.

    Great insights.

  249. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Justin,

    My condolences. My late mother was a huge Yankee fan and, despite her illness, never missed a game.

    Hold onto your memories of her. It’s what makes being a Yankee so great. It crosses generations.

  250. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Why are you guys talking about Girardi getting fired? It’s a non-topic right now.

  251. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Justin,

    Very sorry to hear about your grandmother. My condolences.

  252. TeeJay June 20th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    I dont why people are getting on Burnett. He isn’t refusing to throw to Posada like how some yankee pitchers in the past did. People want Burnett to be an ace but he isn’t he never was he is a solid number 2 though.

  253. Kernal June 20th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Indians will draft Strasburg….

  254. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Poor Tex…….happy father’s day, huh?

  255. CT23 June 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Sorry about your grandmother, Justin. Hopefully the Yanks will win it all in her memory.

  256. jpb1973 June 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Yankees signed the big IFA catcher Gary Sanchez.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....175236.htm

    ——————————————————

    If the article is correct and, on July 2nd, we do sign Sanchez I wonder if the Yankees will begin the process of finding a new position for Jesus Montero. Having Francisco Cervelli and Austin Romine in the system makes it possible for the Yanks to consider a position change for Montero.

  257. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Joe T,

    Where did Tex get hit, and how long was he down? Conflicting versions here.

  258. CB June 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    “They are the Posada Swift-Boaters.”

    Hmmm interesting observation. I’ll let rconn and Nick decide on that one.

    I’d guess that while there may be some real Posada Swift-Boaters there are more real Posada Truthers out there.

    Or maybe its a mixture of both? Posada Swift-Truthers?

  259. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Good news on Nady……..

  260. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    I didn’t see Tex get hit. I just got here, later than usual and I missed BP.

  261. Franky M June 20th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    you mean the balls pete?

  262. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    “UPDATE, 6:13 p.m.: Mark Teixeira just left BP after fouling a ball off that glanced off the cage and caught him in a bad place.”

    Mrs. Teixeira read the update and immediately said….
    “ooooh…Newbury Street in Boston?”

  263. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Ok, thanks SJ…

    Poor guy…he might need that guy that did the liniment thing for Roger. On second thought,……no thanks.

  264. CB June 20th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    “I wonder if the Yankees will begin the process of finding a new position for Jesus Montero. ”

    The two are completely unrelated. Signing Gary Sanchez has no bearing on Montero’s future.

    Sanchez is 16. They have no idea what his future will hold. None. There’s been reports that he could wind up in RF or 1b. Who knows?

    They signed Sanchez because they liked his bat and thought it was the best bat available this year. That’s it. Sanchez is an interesting guy because he’s been on the map in the DR for quite some time (or at least a “long time” for a 16 year old…) The yankees evidently have been following him for a while.

    And also – some prospects are so good that their talents and needs dictate what happens to them and the players around them. Montero is one of them.

  265. MarkT June 20th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Did Mark get hit in the testicles?

  266. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    CB,

    Posada Swift Truthers:) I like the ring of it!

    The flawed Posada logic has reached such a critical mass on this blog I think it deserves the longer name.

  267. Bronx Jeers June 20th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Teixeira’s huevos
    So fragile yet so potent
    cups are important

  268. TeeJay June 20th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Yankees also drafted a catcher in the 2nd round this year. They are really stocking up at that postion.

  269. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    LOL enough with the catchers. I would like to see the Yankees stock up at other positions…..

  270. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Change of plans- my sister called me and asked me to go out for dinner with her (aka buy her dinner).

    Catch you all later. Happy Yankee viewing!

  271. CB June 20th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    rconn,

    I’m completely deferring to you on this critical issue. You took the lead in the original naming. Any evolution in taxonomy falls under your auspice!

  272. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Nothing wrong with drafting catchers. It’s a premium position. And we want to train them the RIGHT way. :)

    Anyway, catchers can be converted to 1B or DH. It’s the bats they’re drafting and/or signing.

    Can never have too many good pitchers and catchers. They can be blue chip trading pieces as well.

  273. gayle June 20th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Justin sorry for your loss

  274. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    M, the Yankees are going to have a million DHs and 1B in the near future, lol…….

  275. teddy June 20th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    posada at first, c at catcher, that tick posada off

  276. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    When the Posada Swift Truthers hook up with Taylor Swift Truthers under the O’Neill banner – be on the lookout for blonde country hitting catchers with big ears.

  277. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Betsy,

    LOL. Pete’s iPod will go crazy auto-correcting the lineups!

  278. Courtney June 20th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    I can’t believe Kim Jones said that Hanley Ramirez leads Major League SS with eight homeruns when Derek Jeter has nine homeruns this season.

  279. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Courtney,

    Maybe she meant REAL homeruns. :)

  280. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    CB,

    Then so it shall come to pass:)

  281. Courtney June 20th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Lol, a homerun is a homerun.

  282. Sean June 20th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    http://mvn.com/pendingpinstripes/

    Report on Yanks signing Gary Sanchez

  283. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    “UPDATE, 6:13 p.m.: Mark Teixeira just left BP after fouling a ball off that glanced off the cage and caught him in a bad place”

    Is “bad place” synonymous with his male membership card? :P

  284. Wolf In Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Justin – my condolences as well for your loss.

  285. m June 20th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Laura,

    Wasn’t it you who wrote an open letter to Mark to stop shifting his cup?

  286. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Justin-You and your entire have my condolences.

  287. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    “Wasn’t it you who wrote an open letter to Mark to stop shifting his cup?”

    Yes, it was. I have been pleading with him to get one that properly fits him and look at what happened? He should have listened to me.

  288. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    *entire family

  289. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    In a shark’s belly…

    Size of a whale, once dolphin…

    Captain, A-hab, sit…

  290. Coral June 20th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    I met Nady and Nick Markakis during opening day this year

  291. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Boy – no news
    Must be good news.
    Or maybe it’s not

    Wait and see

  292. m June 20th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Laura,

    I laughed when I read it because it’s the most annoying thing. But some guys have their routines. Alex plays with his gloves. Ichiro tugs on his shirt sleeve. Tex plays shifts. Ugh.

  293. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Dynasty is Destiny,

    If you have a haiku for the Teixeira situation, I’ll be really impressed.

  294. Will Moller June 20th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Anyone else catch Peter Gammons suggestion today that the only way Boston would move Brad Penny is if someone offered them a prospect on the level of a Matt LaPorta, Justin Smoak or Brett Wallace?

    Yeesh.

  295. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Hey, it looks like I’m going to get the YES broadcast on MLB Extra Innings. Woohoo!

  296. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Ugh, cowbell night here. I caught cowbell night in Tampa in April and now tonight.

    Headache City.

  297. m June 20th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Will,

    I saw the link “Boston Rotation to go six deep” and that’s the first thing I thought. Chumming the trade waters.

  298. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    That is so cheesy……cowbells? Must be a Florida thing…..ugh

  299. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    “I laughed when I read it because it’s the most annoying thing. But some guys have their routines. Alex plays with his gloves. Ichiro tugs on his shirt sleeve. Tex plays shifts. Ugh.”

    It’s almost like he does it out of habit. I can’t imagine that after all of these years of being a ballplayer, he can’t find a cup that fits. Hell, with the kind of money he makes, can’t he get one custom made? Of course, I’m not exactly sure who would want to do the fitting for that. LOL!

  300. Will Moller June 20th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    rconn23

    What’s a cup good for
    if it’s moved around too much?
    shift shift shift shift, yowch!

  301. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    What is it with Florida and cowbells? It doesn’t even make sense.

  302. tampayank June 20th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Didn’t know the marlins used the cowbell gimmick, it can’t be as bad as Rays games since they’re outdoors and 80% of the fans there are probably Yank Fans.

  303. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Pass out megaphones

  304. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Mighty Major League…

    Minotaur, now living in…

    A media maze…

  305. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    cowbells :evil:

  306. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    That Tex is one tough guy. He got his bell rung and he’s still in the lineup. :)

  307. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    I saw the Gammons blog item about Penny, and it really is ridiculous how he floats trade “possibilities” for Theo Epstein hoping to get a bite. No one is trading a top prospect for a back of the rotation guy like Penny.

    Not even Ed Wade would do something like that – of course, the Astros organization has no top prospects:)

    A few weeks ago Gammons on Baseball Tonight said that the Red Sox would give up five players for Adrian Gonzalez.

    Couldn’t he have just begged Kevin Towers to call his buddy Theo?

    It really is just absurd what Gammons has become. He is a great writer. His Sunday notes column revolutionized baseball writing. But his promotion of all things Red Sox is just shameless at this point.

  308. Ed H. June 20th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Justin,

    My condolences to you and your family on your grandmother’s death. It was my mother who taught me to love the Yanks and I still send her every article I find on Yogi (her and my favorite) and the Yanks of the 1950s.

    Jane Leavy wrote a beautiful article for Bronx Banter on how her grandmother, who lived across the street from OYS, taught her to love the Yanks. I hope you enjoy it. It’s incredible.

    http://www.bronxbanterblog.com.....memory-15/

  309. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Fair notice, The Bombers are facing one of the best young pitchers in baseball….Their work is cut out for them tonight…..This kid is real good….

  310. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Tex is playing. In the on deck circle.

  311. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Will,

    Nicely done!

  312. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC
    June 20th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
    Not this Posada stuff again..
    =======

    I’m groaning, too. I will have to seek out other pastures tonight if that’s going to be the game’s subtext.

    CB nice find. Where people get the idea that offense from a catcher is gratuitous, I’ll never know.

    Knicks – We are not going to groom Montero for RF. He’s a brilliant bat, but he’s not going to cut it in the outfield.

    Nick in SF – Thanks for the EC link. Couldn’t find the show, but I discovered your post well after the fact. Appreciate the thought and if you have any EC news coming down the pike, I’m all ears.

    As a peerless reliever once said: “Go Jahnkees.”

  313. Nich in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    ‘Posada Truther’ seems more apt to me. It suggests a deep conspiracy but allows that not every adherent subscribes to each aspect of it. It also suggest that, though ridiculously misguided, the believers do think they’re helping.

    Plus it seems to drive ‘em crazy. :evil:

  314. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    DYNASTY IS DESTINY!
    June 20th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
    Mighty Major League…
    Minotaur, now living in…
    A media maze…

    ….guess I’ll be forum hopping, so as not to miss these gems!

  315. m June 20th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Johnny D’s a thief.

  316. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Damon should not have ran with Tex batting.

  317. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    rconn23
    June 20th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    I saw the Gammons blog item about Penny, and it really is ridiculous how he floats trade “possibilities” for Theo Epstein hoping to get a bite. No one is trading a top prospect for a back of the rotation guy like Penny.
    ======

    This is the one of the few times where I think the words “an embarrassment” applies.

  318. m June 20th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Well, at least they didn’t give at-bats away. Chip, chip, chip. He’ll wear down. After all, this is the best lineup money can buy!

  319. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Do people in Fla not know how to clap their hands? The Rays have cow bells. The marlins, I have no idea what it is. only that it is annoying as all heck.

  320. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    “I saw the Gammons blog item about Penny, and it really is ridiculous how he floats trade “possibilities” for Theo Epstein hoping to get a bite. No one is trading a top prospect for a back of the rotation guy like Penny.”

    In that column gammons claimed that unless the sox could get back a prospect like Justing Smoak or Matt La Porta they would not trade penny.

    Let’s put that in perspective.

    Penny is signed for this year alone. Any team trading for him is trading for half a year of Brad Penny.

    Last year the Indians traded CC mid season for Matt La Porta.

    So essentially Gammons is reporting that the Sox are valuing Penny at the same value as CC Sabathia.

    Unreal.

  321. Nich in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    bodhi: the only EC link was the “Listen Live” link when I made the post, the festival was being live-streamed. It probably still is, just not with EC playing. If I hear about it being archived somewhere, I’ll let you know.

  322. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Forgive the subject- verb disagreement: apply.

  323. Paul S in Summit NJ June 20th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Burnett definitely has pine tar on his hat. Right side by the brim. Something to watch.

  324. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    ANGEL!!!

  325. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    First hitter Posada sets up inside and Burnett misses his spot with the ball tailing back out over the plate resulting in a hard hit line drive to swisher.

    Posada’s fault.

  326. Don June 20th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Pete – what was that you said about Berroa?

  327. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    We’re being no hit

  328. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Posada gunnin!

  329. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Hanley Ramirez at bat – Posada sets up on the outside corner and burnett throws the ball over the inside part of the plate.

    Ramirez pulls the ball past the SS for a basehit.

    Clearly Posada’s fault that Burnett missed his spot again.

  330. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    “‘Posada Truther’ seems more apt to me. It suggests a deep conspiracy but allows that not every adherent subscribes to each aspect of it. It also suggest that, though ridiculously misguided, the believers do think they’re helping.”

    Who is the Posada Truthers Alex Jones?

  331. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Oh that Posada

  332. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Gunslinger Burnett…

    Cowhide bullets v. cowbells…

    Fish in a barell…

  333. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    That darned Posada. Calling fastballs to pad his CS stats.

  334. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    “Posada’s fault.”

    If you say so….When did you join Posada Truthers group ? :) ?

  335. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    What a great throw by Cervelli there!

    Throwing out one of the premier base stealers in the game despite Burnett being relatively slow to the plate.

    How does Cervelli do it?

  336. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Posada’s going to have a tough night tonight. No matter how well Burnett pitches, that ball is moving and along with him hanging onto a few, it’s gonna be brutal.

  337. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Kay in a speedo? That visual just made me hurl.

  338. m June 20th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Nice strike by Georgie!

  339. Don June 20th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Posada CS% = 31%

    Varitek CS% – 22%

    Hmmm???

  340. RenataD June 20th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Michael Kay in a speedo?…..hello!!

  341. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    michael kay just said hes wearing a speedo to the game tomorrow.

  342. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Please Michael Kay-no speedo tomorrow. :shock:

  343. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Can Hank make the Yankees sit Swisher for a few days? :P

  344. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    CB, Maybe that 80 % was just a little to much to expect…..

  345. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    BBFan,

    I-r-o-n-y. :D

  346. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    ..and that wasn’t it.

  347. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    8 pitch inning

  348. JT June 20th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Remember when Joba was bringing 94-98 in the rotation like Johnson in June-July 08 :(

  349. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    “8 pitch inning”

    The boys have dinner plans after the game and they don’t want to be late.

  350. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    CC on the couch…

    Cacophany of cowbells…

    Counting, one, two, three…

  351. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    “Maybe that 80 % was just a little to much to expect…..”

    Last August, AJ threw his curve ball for strikes less then 33% of the time he threw it. That month hitters hit .312 off of his fastball.

    If AJ gets his curve over for a strike 50% of the time he’ close to unhittable.

    The difference 17% makes….

  352. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    The more you watch Swisher, the more you see why Ozzie hates him.

    Some ugly AB’s by Nick the last week.

  353. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Bells are ringing…
    In the stands..
    In the batting cages..

  354. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
    June 20th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
    Can Hank make the Yankees sit Swisher for a few days?
    ===

    Swisher’s fielding is umm…unconventional.
    Tx NSF, hope to see him live again before I die.

  355. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    “The more you watch Swisher, the more you see why Ozzie hates him.”

    The more you listen to Ozzie, the more you see why people hate him. :wink:

  356. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    “Posada CS% = 31%”

    Posada has one of the highest caught stealing rates of any catcher in the AL.

    Managers trying to run on him are giving away outs.

  357. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    at least nobody was on.

  358. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    I guess Uggla isn’t slumping anymore.

  359. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Cano has played 2nd base this year like liquid silk. He is the second coming of Manny Trillo.

  360. Wanzies June 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Saw the Thunder play the B-Mets last night, which the Thunder won 12-2. Montero put on a show in BP.

    BTW, he is HUGE. Looks like the “big kid” in 6th grade.

    Tonight’s DH rained out.

  361. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    That guy had the worst All Star Game ever last year (or was it the year before?).

  362. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    at least when Posada calls for a gopher ball, there is no one on base.

  363. tampayank June 20th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    The Yanks are just setting up the drama for the later innings where AROD hits a pinch hit HR to win the game:)

  364. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    This is going to be a long night……..

  365. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Posada sets up outside again – just as he did on the first batter of the game.

    Burnett misses his spot and leaves the ball in the middle of the plate. Burnett does not hit his spot.

    Home run.

    Posada’s fault.

  366. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    AJ doesn’t throw those pitches down the middle of the plate when Cervelli is catching. :P

  367. randy l. June 20th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    posada gives an outside target and burnett keeps “painting” the middle of the plate.

    that’s not going to work.

  368. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
    Cano has played 2nd base this year like liquid silk. He is the second coming of Manny Trillo.
    =====

    He is just one of the most fluid, natural athletes I’ve ever seen.

  369. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Yanks are going to need 3-4 runs tonight. Forget AJ. The Yanks offense has the biggest challenge.

  370. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    AJ doesn’t look like he’s got his best stuff tonight. Not TERRIBLE, just not as good as I’ve see him in recent starts.

    Johnson, on the other hand, looks about ready to absolutely dominate.

    Will that one run be enough? Possibly. Gotta be a little more patient at the plate, and then hope to get to their bullpen, most likely. Then again, we’ve had guys dominate for the first 2 or 3 innings, and then tank in the 4th, so who knows?

    I…guess I basically said nothing in this post. haha

  371. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Tie between Kevin Brown and Carl Pavano.

  372. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    All we can do is just throw this guy out there – he is what he is. I hope at some point he can go on a roll, but CB posted that article a few days ago – he’s not getting a lot of ground balls. I guess that means he’s not using his two seamer enough…..he might want to do that as he’s apparently very prone to giving up the long ball.

  373. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    “I…guess I basically said nothing in this post. haha”

    True, but we enjoyed reading it anyway. :)

  374. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    AJ will tie it up

  375. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Derek Lowe looking good against the Sox. Lots of ground balls.

    Beckett is also looking pretty good though – hitting his spots at 96mph.

  376. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    AJ breaks up the no hitter

  377. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    “Yanks are going to need 3-4 runs tonight. Forget AJ. The Yanks offense has the biggest challenge.”

    Can’t forget AJ. 4 runs are the upper limit for what you can reasonably score off of Johnson.

    AJ gives up 4-5 runs this game becomes very difficult.

    No one has scored runs off Johnson this year. His peripherals are fantastic. He’s a beast.

  378. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    AJ!

  379. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Vintage Jeter

  380. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    BD, I would be willing to give up the game if AJ pitched great because they need him to get on a roll and I don’t expect them to hit Johnson anyway.

    Donnie, I can’t think of a regular season game (outside of his 2nd start in Tampa) where AJ had electric stuff. I’m not talking about command – I’m just talking about pure filth. He’s really had to battle in most of his starts – even as inconsistent as he’s been in his career, you’d expect a few dominating starts in there. Maybe this is an unusually poor start for AJ…….

  381. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    jeter is hurting when he runs…no doubt about it

  382. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Good lord, Jeter. He truly is the king of the GIDP.

  383. vinny-b (I believe in Nick Swisher) June 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....175236.htm

    who’s minding the store? Instead of trying to corner the market on catchers like Gert Frobet/Goldfinger did on gold, it would be nice to see the yankees actually target 5-tool outfielders. Considering they have like zero in the system

    Kevin DeLeon and Slade Heathcott, i hope you make it

  384. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    TB beat the Mets and Santana 3-1.

  385. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    # Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    TB beat the Mets and Santana 3-1.

    Hes no CC

  386. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Sheesh why is it that everytime Jeter makes an out, we have to hear snarky comments about him? He’s not allowed to make an out or hit into a DP? The guy is only human – and he’s a great Yankees. Unbelievable.

  387. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Jeter is an idiot. Playing on a bad ankle only makes it worse. He is so stubborn sometimes.

  388. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    I don’t know what was uglier….Burnett’s swing and hit or Andy Etcherbarren’s rookie card.

  389. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Sheesh why is it that everytime Jeter makes an out, we have to hear snarky comments about him? He’s not allowed to make an out or hit into a DP? The guy is only human – and he’s a great Yankees. Unbelievable.

    Jeter sux

  390. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    CB,

    I agree but I am thinking he’s probably going to give up 2-3.

    If he gives up more, good luck.

    The biggest challenge will be getting those runs off JJ.

    AJ can’t pitch this game as if he isn’t allowed to give up any runs. It’s up to the offense to keep the pressure off.

  391. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    “Donnie, I can’t think of a regular season game (outside of his 2nd start in Tampa) where AJ had electric stuff. I’m not talking about command – I’m just talking about pure filth. He’s really had to battle in most of his starts – even as inconsistent as he’s been in his career, you’d expect a few dominating starts in there. Maybe this is an unusually poor start for AJ….”

    Agree 100%. That said, though, his last few starts, he was at least staying around the plate, making guys miss, or painting the corners. So far tonight, he’s…just…sort of flat. Two of the three hits were up in the zone, and that’s why he got hit.

  392. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    sometimes, i like his stubbornness :) Other times, not so much. Can you afford to sit jeter and arod at the same time tho? Especially since we have no DH ( although our pitchers apparently arent that bad….)

  393. CB June 20th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    “I guess that means he’s not using his two seamer enough…..he might want to do that as he’s apparently very prone to giving up the long ball.”

    Betsy,

    It’s not only he’s not using his two seamer – when he throws it he has no idea where it is going. His two seamer this year has been particularly bad. The ball seems to always run back over the plate when he uses it.

    AJ needs to mix his pitches better.

    But so far this year the big problem hasn’t been pitch selection – it’s command.

    AJ just doesn’t throw enough strikes and even when he does throw the ball in the strike zone he misses the catcher’s spot time and time again.

    That base hit he gave up to Hanley Ramirez was a great example. Posada is set up outside. I’d guess Jeter at SS is pinching in up the middle because the pitch is supposed to be outside and what are the chances even a hitter like Ramirez is going to pull an outside fastball from Burnett?

    Instead Burnett misses his spot and the ball winds up towards the inside part of the plate.

    In that location Ramirez can pull the ball and it goes just past Jeter to his right.

    That’s the kind of thing that happens when you don’t hit your spots.

  394. m June 20th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    God, I hope all of your crystal balls aren’t working. Must suck to look into the future and see nothing but bad.

  395. raymagnetic June 20th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    “Jeter is an idiot. Playing on a bad ankle only makes it worse. He is so stubborn sometimes.”

    Was he being stubborn last night when he led off the game with a 400 foot double :???:

  396. Patrick June 20th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Nasty hook

  397. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    vinny-b (I believe in Nick Swisher)
    June 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/06.....175236.htm

    who’s minding the store? Instead of trying to corner the market on catchers like Gert Frobet/Goldfinger did on gold, it would be nice to see the yankees actually target 5-tool outfielders. Considering they have like zero in the system

    Kevin DeLeon and Slade Heathcott, i hope you make it

    ————————————————————

    Austin Romine has the arm, athleticism and footspeed to make a good corner outfielder.

  398. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Got to give Posada some credit tonight, making AJ pitch off of the breaking ball not the fastball.

  399. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Beckett is dealing so far tonight.

    It’s nice that Lowe looks good too but I’d prefer that Beckett not find his stuff.

  400. stuart a June 20th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    do not have the game so can’t comment on specifics but Cano witha very patient AB in the 2nd. If he was a mad hacker but got some big clutch hits it would be 1 thing but again he hits when it is low pressure..

    he hardly ever strikes out and puts the bat on the ball at a high % so why can’t he take a pitch? I would put the take sign on him all the time…

  401. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Of course, as soon as I say he looks flat, his fastball starts moving, and his slider gets nasty. That might have been in the top 5 best innings he’s had all year. Just nasty.

  402. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    The Marlins aren’t a very patient team.

    AJ is exploiting that, clearly, and it doesn’t hurt that his curveball is tight.

    I just hope this isn’t one of those “one mistake cost us the game” type games.

  403. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    AJ looked much better that inning ……..

  404. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    “Was he being stubborn last night when he led off the game with a 400 foot double”

    Those hits won’t matter if he injuries himself worse and is out for a long period of time.

  405. Cliff June 20th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    AJ stikes out the side on 9 pitches, how often does that happen?

  406. Will June 20th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    aj just threw an immaculate inning (3 K’s on 9 pitches)

  407. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    I din’t know GB, Etchebarren is, well…

    http://cardboardgods.files.wor.....ren_77.jpg

  408. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    “I’d guess Jeter at SS is pinching in up the middle because the pitch is supposed to be outside and what are the chances even a hitter like Ramirez is going to pull an outside fastball from Burnett?”

    ————

    good point.

    When a pitcher misses his spots, you sometimes forget it also mixes up the fielders who are cheating over a bit.

  409. Will June 20th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    cliff, the feat has been accomplished by 38 pitchers, as per wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.....ne_pitches

  410. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    “AJ stikes out the side on 9 pitches, how often does that happen?”

    ———-

    that is Bruney-esque

  411. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    BD, Beckett’s been unbelievable for over a month now – unfortunately.

    As inconsistent as AJ has been, I know there’s more there – maybe he’s still trying to find his way as a Yankee. CB, has his control been off even for him? If that’s the case, then maybe he’s continuing to have mechanical issues….maybe he’s trying to pace himself too much, trying to hold back too much?

  412. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    For everyone who continues to criticize A-Rod, Teixeira yet again continues to get NOTHING to hit in the absence of A-Rod from the lineup.

  413. Joe from Long Island June 20th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Laura – the minute you step on the field you run the risk of getting injured. Heck, look at what happened to Tex during BP. Life isn’t risk free. Once they report for ST, all these guys have aches and pains. When a player says he’s isn’t hurting, that frequently means they don’t hurt more than usual. Part of being a professional athlete.

  414. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Burnett tied a major league record in the third inning. 3 strikeouts on 9 pitches. Doesn’t happen often.

  415. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Looks like we have a pitching duel.

  416. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Betsy,

    IIRC, he got killed his last time out.

  417. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Will

    Had no idea it was that rare.

  418. Cliff June 20th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Nice Will! Thanks a lot for that since I was too lazy too look it up. That is impressive.

  419. m June 20th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    They found an MRI machine big enough for GGBG’s head?

  420. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    who’s minding the store? Instead of trying to corner the market on catchers like Gert Frobet/Goldfinger did on gold, it would be nice to see the yankees actually target 5-tool outfielders. Considering they have like zero in the system
    Kevin DeLeon and Slade Heathcott, i hope you make it
    ===

    Eduardo Sosa and Carlos Urena are very young, but both are toolsy outfielders.

  421. Anthony June 20th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Not to be a debbie downer but this has all the makings of the Yankees not even being able to scratch a few runs off a pitcher hey have never seen. They don’t even work counts to get this guy’s pitch count up.

  422. tex's friend June 20th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    1. do the yankees ever win on saturday?

    2. why does our pitcher have the only hit?

  423. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Betsy,

    Burnett is usually better in the 2nd half of the season.

  424. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Tom in N.J
    June 20th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
    I din’t know GB, Etchebarren is, well…

    http://cardboardgods.files.wor.....ren_77.jpg

    ————————————————————

    His nickname in Baltimore as a rookie was “Little Yogi”.

  425. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    “Instead of trying to corner the market on catchers”

    ————

    are there any dominant position players who the yanks could have signed but passed on?

    I have no problem with them signing young, high-ceiling guys regardless of position.

    If they are signing catchers at the expense of other players for no apparent reason, that’s different.

  426. CB June 20th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    “AJ can’t pitch this game as if he isn’t allowed to give up any runs. It’s up to the offense to keep the pressure off.”

    Very true. The offense has to do something off of Johnson.

    That’s a tough challenge. Dan Haren has been tremendous this year as has Tim Lincecum. JOhnson is right up there with them for being the best pitcher in the NL this year.

    This is why it was important for them to win last night. Don’t want to go down 0-1 in a series having to face Johnson and Volstad the next two nights.

  427. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    ugh Melky……

  428. vinny-b (I believe in Nick Swisher) June 20th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Hanley Ramirez (and others) loved/respected Girardi when he was manager of the Marlins

    But yeah, lets fire Girardi

  429. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    For those that are claiming that Beckett is pitching well this year….take another look. His numbers are nearly the same as Burnett’s and if you look even closer, Pettitte has better numbers, except for strikeouts.

  430. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    BD, that’s true…..

    I’d like to see AJ get out of this – he made a good pitch to Hanley. Let’s see if he can come back and make Uggla pay for the HR…..

  431. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    GB7,

    Beckett has been pitching much better of late, though.

    His dud start last time out gave me hope that he wasn’t pulling it all together but he looks really sharp tonight.

  432. CB June 20th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Hanley Ramirez base hit – Posada sets up outside.

    Burnett misses the spot and the ball tails back all the way towards the middle-inside part of the plate.

    Hanley muscles the ball to CF.

    That’s a great example of how AJ has survived as a starting pitcher despite having poor to mediocre command.

    With the vast majority of pitchers – they miss there spots like that to Ramirez and he parks the ball over the left field fence.

    But AJ has such a live arm that he can “afford” to make mistakes other pitchers can’t. Instead of a HR Hanley only get a single as he’s unable to drive the mistake.

  433. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    AJ has a nice curve tonight…….

  434. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    BC, as of the start of this game, his numbers weren’t any better than Burnett or Pettitte’s. I can pick a game and toss away one from each one and it would still be the same. None have been consistant and all have had good and bad starts.

  435. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    This just in: Angel Berroa isn’t very good.

  436. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Thanks, Berroa………make AJ throw more pitches now.

  437. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    We make at least one error a game now. That streak did more harm than good.

  438. chr1zisNYY June 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Cmon grandpa Angel.. that is awful

  439. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Berroa :evil:

  440. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    What’s up with that Teixeira – he can’t unjump fast at all!

    (J/K)

  441. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    AJ needs 5 outs to get thru this inning.
    Melky and Berroa owe him.

  442. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    AJ’s curveball looks good tonight, however, I’d like to see him also land more of those curves for strikes.

    He may not get as many swings and misses against more patient teams.

    If he can land one for a strike early in the count, he’s more likely to get the 3rd strike swings and misses against even the most patient teams.

    He’s done it in spurts.

  443. CB June 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Can’t give outs away when you’re facing Josh Johnson.

  444. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    That error could hurt. I’m more concerned with a WP than a hit.

  445. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    It really is amazing Berroa is able to get a major league roster spot.

  446. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Poor defense tonight.

  447. randy l. June 20th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    posada had perfect form flipping the mitt and getting his mitt and body in front of that breaking ball on the strikeout.

    more catchers than you’d think would have backhanded it and not have gotten their body in front of the pitch.

    that ball goes by posada and a runner is on first and a runner advances.

  448. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Tell MKay that Hanley singled. Its not 6 in a row.

  449. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Wow, great job by AJ…….considering he’s got 7 K’s, he doesn’t have that high of a pitch count.

  450. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Uh oh! Fist pump. Call the baseball etiquette police. :P

  451. vinny-b (I believe in Nick Swisher) June 20th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    easy, Burnett. Don’t get too excited and hurt your arm

  452. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    can they score a run now

  453. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Anyone gonna get on AJ for the fist pump?

  454. Serf June 20th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Tell MKay that Hanley singled. Its not 6 in a row.
    ———-

    The last 6 outs were K’s.

  455. Patrick June 20th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    So is there a reason we are dissecting every hit Burnett gives up? Yeah, we get it, he misses his spots. How about we talk about the string of 6 strikeouts he’s just gotten? He looks good tonight, it’s time for the Yankee offense to step up.

  456. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    AJ is a pitcher that needs to pitch backwards… He has suspect fastball command.

  457. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Johnson at 47 pitches through 4IP.

    They’re going to have to wear him out at some point.

    If AJ can keep it up, they only need a a couple hits to do it.

  458. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    AJ at 58 pitches.

  459. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Oh No! Fist Pump! Atrocious!!! :P

  460. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    I have the Yanks-Marlins game and the Braves-Sox game both on right now.

    1 run through a combined 9 innings…

    lets see some runs!!

  461. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    randy l.
    June 20th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
    posada had perfect form flipping the mitt and getting his mitt and body in front of that breaking ball on the strikeout.

    more catchers than you’d think would have backhanded it and not have gotten their body in front of the pitch.

    that ball goes by posada and a runner is on first and a runner advances.

    ————————————————————

    I said early in the first inning, that Posada was in for a rough night. That ball is moving fast and everywhere. Jorge is gonna be one tuckered little fella, tonight.

  462. CB June 20th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Very nice come back by AJ there. Berroa makes a terrible play and AJ picks the team up.

    His fastball command hasn’t been great tonight. But his stuff is electric. And more importantly his control has been very good (especially of the curve). He’s thrown 58 pitches – 40 for strikes (68%).

  463. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    No good swings off Johnson at all. He is on top of his game.

  464. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Kim Jones asked Jeter about this business of them not being able to hit pitchers they have never seen. He told her that it was a misnomer and that the players have never said that. Actually, that is incorrect. Damon said it during the Nats series. Jeter might want to speak to Damon about that. :P

  465. m June 20th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    I don’t know why the Yankees are so impatient. It’s not like Josh Johnson is pounding the strike zone or anything. Why not take a few pitches?

  466. KO June 20th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Can someone tell our guys the first or even the second strike you see isn’t always the best….

  467. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    going to need someone to get a hit other than the pitcher

  468. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Regardless of how good Johnson has been, the offense has helped him out by swinging at a lot of pitches out of the strike zone in hitters’ counts.

    This team has stopped being patient at the plate, and it has KILLED them.

  469. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    This game is reminding me of the Verlander game…. could be a very long night

  470. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    At least Melky is making him work.

  471. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Best at bat of the game so far

  472. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Hes not even throwing the breaking ball for strikes

  473. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    boston 1-0 :(

  474. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    64 pitches for JJ

  475. Going Nowhere Fast June 20th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    15 runs scored last Sunday and only 12 since. Typical Yankee offense.

  476. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Not able to watch, but hopefully the offense can scratch out a couple runs so the story will be the great game AJ pitched.

  477. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Oh come on Michael Kay. “The bottom dropped out.” Are you serious? That was a flat slider right in his happy zone and he didn’t come close to hitting it, even though that is the pitch Johnson has thrown him all at bat.

    This team needs to start putting together longer at bats like that, because they have nobody to blame but themselves if this guy goes deep into the game.

    The Nationals have the worst pen in baseball, and they let 2 of their 3 starters go into the 7th inning or later. Just absolutely disgraceful, this team has stopped being patient at the plate.

  478. chr1zisNYY June 20th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Well at least AJ is due up next inning :)

  479. Patrick June 20th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    So why is Berroa in the lineup and not Pena? Berroa is a terrible terrible player. He can’t field, he can’t hit, he can’t steal. At least Pena is a great fielder and can occasionally swipe a bag.

    With Berroa in the lineup, next inning is basically a guaranteed 1-2-3. Berroa, Burnett, Jeter.

  480. m June 20th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Didn’t get anything to show for it, but Melky did a great job of protecting the plate and extending the at-bat.

    He saw more pitches in one at-bat than the Yankees did in two different half-innings.

  481. CB June 20th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    “I don’t know why the Yankees are so impatient. It’s not like Josh Johnson is pounding the strike zone or anything. Why not take a few pitches?”

    Scouting report most likely.

    Johnson has been one of ht premier control pitchers in all of baseball this year.

    He’s walking 2.1/9. His K/BB ratio is an outstanding 3.6.

    He just doesn’t walk guys.

    His numbers so far this year have been reminiscent of Halladay’s.

  482. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    What happened to the Yankees that came into games against tough pitchers with the mentality of… even if we score no runs we are going to work the pitcher and get him out the game with 100 pitches in 6 innings?

  483. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    This offense can’t beat good pitching, consistently over the last few years. Don’t count Santana, because he really isn’t that good anymore, he was throwing 90 mph that day. Have they beaten Beckett? Verlander? Halladay? Not once this season.

    Even when a guy has his best stuff, a good team should still be able to scratch out a run or two off him. However, this team is one of the worst at ABC ball, and they can never scratch out key runs in these spots. That’s what kills them a ton, runners at 3rd, less than 2 outs.

  484. Throw Strikes June 20th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    we look completely overmatched

  485. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    But that makes no sense! Who cares if the guy isn’t walking hitters in the season? He is falling behind EVERY hitter. Take a few pitches and let him get himself in trouble rather than hacking at garbage pitches nowhere close when you are AHEAD in the count.

  486. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    as do they

  487. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Suzyn Waldman obviously reads this blog, as she just went off on being “tired of hearing people bash Jorge Posada”.

  488. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    “This offense can’t beat good pitching, consistently over the last few years.”

    ———-

    not many can.

    That’s why the Yanks have tried to build a team founded on great pitching.

    The Yanks need to be able to win games 2-1 instead of 10-8.

  489. CaSHman = Jack+Ass June 20th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    “What happened to the Yankees that came into games against tough pitchers with the mentality of… even if we score no runs we are going to work the pitcher and get him out the game with 100 pitches in 6 innings?”

    ….They became Red Sox?

  490. stuart a June 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    brain surgeons.. really good pitchers when they are on do not give up many runs..

    maybe if the likes of cano would take a few pitches they would get him out after 6 or 7 innings….

    nah cano’s formula works well for that great OBP……….

  491. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Nationals are 12 outs away from a 4-game winning steak…

  492. Patrick June 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    “we look completely overmatched”

    Luckily, so do the Marlins.

  493. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    # Boston Dave – OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Nationals are 12 outs away from a 4-game winning steak…

    Go Nats!

  494. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    “Don’t count Santana, because he really isn’t that good anymore”

    ——–

    Do you need a free pass? Or are you just an idiot?

  495. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    “Suzyn Waldman obviously reads this blog, as she just went off on being “tired of hearing people bash Jorge Posada”.”

    How is she hearing it from this blog? Does Pete’s blog have an audio feature that I don’t know about? :P

  496. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Doreen Are you around.

    Did the tour today too.

    I’d like to add somethings as well.

    Swish’s locker was cool, loved the collage. He had a picture of the lady that visited the team that had cancer hanging his locker. Curious if Doreen saw the other picture laying around as well. :lol:

    Robertson left his car keys just laying in his locker. I’m a little surprised that he wouldn’t put it in a drawer or something.

    The locker room was big, but not as big as I thought it was. The batting cages are literally steps from the dugout. Monument park isn’t as much of a dungeon as people are makings it out to be. The hallway going there was very narrow and winding.

    I also asked about the ‘bat’ my tour guide didn’t know either. Didn’t know if they’d bring it over or auction it.

    The tour really needs to be longer. I know they try to run a lot because of the high demand (run every 20 min). But I felt rushed. I wanted to take more pictures, but didn’t have time.

    http://tourofbaseballsnewestca.....erfly.com/

  497. Throw Strikes June 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    AJ is dealing

  498. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    I think the Yankees’ offense is overrated, but I’m not going to kill them for not hitting Johnson. The most important thing coming out of this game (should it hold) would be AJ’s performance….

  499. Terry from NH June 20th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    boston 1-0 on a gift misplayed ball by Mclouth.. Why can’t the Yanks get that? Oh right, we did with Castillo..lol

  500. m June 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Nice line from K about his scorecard looking like the guest list for his family reunion. Lots o’ Kays.

  501. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Maybe you know, we might need um, some guy named A-Rod to get healthy.

  502. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Suzyn Waldman obviously reads this blog, as she just went off on being “tired of hearing people bash Jorge Posada”.

    ==========================

    Yeah heard her. She did not seem too happy.

  503. mark June 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    UPDATE, 7:30 p.m.: The Journal News has learned that Jorge Posada can actually read and hear and has made a big effort to work better with his pitchers since his name was being splattered all over newspapers and sports stations and not in a good way. That could explain why the Yankees have allowed one run over the last 10 innings and Hanley Ramirez getting thrown out at second.

  504. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    GB, Andy Etch was the only catcher who’s appearence was enhanched when he put his mask on…..Good catcher that had a very long career……As earlier mentioned this kid Johnson is a very good pitcher….This is the type of Pitcher that Phil Hughes will morph into….

  505. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “Suzyn Waldman obviously reads this blog, as she just went off on being “tired of hearing people bash Jorge Posada”.”

    I can’t believe I agree with Suzyn Waldman on something.

  506. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Yankee starters last 12 innings: 7 hits, 2 runs (earned), 0 walks, 15 strikeouts, 2 solo homers. Impressive, regardless of the opposing team.

  507. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “I think the Yankees’ offense is overrated”

    ————-

    inconsistent? or overrated?

    they are overrated by most of the people in this blog, but they still have one of the better offenses in the league.

  508. Groundhoggator June 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    What’s silly is for those of us in FL getting the game via FSN Marlins network is seeing AJ in a Marlins uni several years ago pelting the truck toting Billy the Marlin around and smashing the back window in during warmups between innings.

    Pete – maybe you should ask him about that experience.

  509. Throw Strikes June 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Burnett should be hitting cleanup

  510. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    stuart a,

    Against those kinds of pitchers the entire lineup has to have the mentality that a 3-2 count is a success even if they make an out. That’s how the Yankees always used to beat Pedro. Keep it close with Mussina, run deep counts on Pedro for 6 innings, then beat up the bullpen!

  511. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    wow johnson is good…

  512. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Bad, bad at bats from Jeter tonight.

  513. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Jeter’s at bats tonight have been pathetic, at best.

    It’s unbelievable how many winnable games this offense just gives away. To lose 3-2 and 3-0 to the Nationals is pathetic enough, but they could lose a game 1-0 in which Burnett K’s 10+ hitters.

    Regardless of who is on the mound, that’s pathetic. How about you make him work a little rather than swinging at the second or third pitch and grounding out?

    Who do you think you have a better chance to hit? The starter in the 9th because you hacked at EVERYTHING, or the bullpen in the 7th/8th because you didn’t expand the zone? Tough one…

  514. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Sadly, I’m ready to mark this one up in the loss column. Johnson is just flat out untouchable tonight. AJ gave us a chance to win, and that’s really all you can ask. We just ran in to a buzzsaw named Josh Johnson.

  515. Throw Strikes June 20th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Johnson looks like a complete game pitcher to me

  516. m June 20th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Whose batting gloves is AJ wearing? They look big. Maybe that’s why the bat flew out of his hand on his “single” :)

  517. pat June 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    “I’m exhausted. It was great.

    Be back after I make the cole slaw and cherry pie!”

    Doreen is exhausted? Could it be withdrawal from something illegal? Is cole slaw and cherry pie code words for PEDs?

  518. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Pat M.
    June 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
    GB, Andy Etch was the only catcher who’s appearence was enhanched when he put his mask on…..Good catcher that had a very long career……As earlier mentioned this kid Johnson is a very good pitcher….This is the type of Pitcher that Phil Hughes will morph into….

    ————————————————————

    Hopefully by next season, Phil Hughes will be the kind of pitcher that Johnson wants to be.

    About Etcherbarren, those Orioles teams had some bad hitting catchers, but, man that defense between Etcherbarren and Elrod Hendricks. They could really handle a staff.

  519. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Looks like the Yanks mailed this effort in tonight, as well. Johnson does give up runs, you know. Just not to the most overrated offense in baseball.

  520. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Here comes bad A.J.

  521. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    “The Yanks need to be able to win games 2-1 instead of 10-8.”- Boston Dave

    How can we expect the Yankees to win the 2-1 games, when they can’t even put a run on the board? This is shameful.

  522. Anthony June 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Johnson looks good but the Yankees have a knack of making pitchers look better. They should be able to score at least a few runs and they consistently swing at the second and third pitch in an at bat to keep this guy’s pitch count low. What happened to the old days when the Yankee batters would by stymied by Pedro but they would work the count and get him out by the 7th inning?

  523. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    2-0 Florida… Bank on it!

  524. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Jennifer -

    I focused on the collage at Nick’s locker, saw the picture at Damon’s that I assume was his wife, saw that Dave Robertson’s locker had a set of car keys lying in it. I felt really rushed out of the locker room, and just barely caught where Jeter and Posada were and Mariano’s name was blocked by something. It was smaller than I thought, and yet, still big and really, really nice.

    I thought Monument Park could have been set up better, but it’s still awesome – and you’re right, the stairway leading to it is narrow. I think the grayness of the made it feel a little smaller, but I didn’t think it was dungeon-like, either. Even though they gave us more time there than almost anywhere else besides the museum, I had to hurry up my last couple of pictures.

    All I did was take pictures. I haven’t uploaded them yet, ’cause i’ve been busy trying to get a head start on tomorrow’s food. But, Jennifer, all I did was snap pictures! I had fun. And I didn’t get the chance to find all the autographed baseballs I wanted to find. Didn’t find Jeter or Mariano and a ton of others. But I did get Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig.

    The dugout – very comfy seats. But if you actually sit in them, you can’t see anything that goes on on the field. No wonder they all stand at the fence!

    I want to go back!!!!! My husband was a little disappointed that we didn’t get to see the weight rooms or the pool.

    My mom was impressed how neat the lockers were. :) So glad we went.

  525. Throw Strikes June 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    walking the lo guy, 2-0

  526. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    don’t look for the Fish to go to the pen… last game Johnson pitched (11-3 win) he went 119 pitches for a complete game.

  527. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Matt, They’re not giving this gave away…..There’s an excellent pitcher on the mound that thwy are facing…..Good pitching trumps good hitting, are you watching the same game as we are ???? Yanks are going to have to wait for him to make a mistake and then make him pay for it…..

  528. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    pat
    June 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
    “I’m exhausted. It was great.

    Be back after I make the cole slaw and cherry pie!”

    Doreen is exhausted? Could it be withdrawal from something illegal? Is cole slaw and cherry pie code words for PEDs?

    ————————————————————

    Careful. I jokingly made the same jo;e to Erica about her flu and quick recovery. She didn’t take kindly to the remark.

  529. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Great pics, Jen!

  530. RS June 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    The offense has really let the team down these past two series. Even yesterday they scored 5 quick runs but did nothing after the third inning.

    I don’t expect them to score 6 runs every night, but 4 shouldn’t be too much to ask when they’re facing below .500 teams.

  531. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    POSADA!!!

  532. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    I only post when the Yankees are losing and when Mommy lets me stay up late.

  533. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Hip Hip!

  534. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Jorge called for the walk because he knew he’d throw him out stealing.

  535. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    ***thing*** to Erica about her flu and quick recovery

  536. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    pat, GB7 -

    I’m exhausted, not “fatigued.” :lol:

  537. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Lord have mercy Burnett… STRIKES!!!!!

  538. CB June 20th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Posada is having some game behind the plate.

    Bonifacio is one of the single fastest guys in the entire league.

    He nails both Bonifacio and Ramirez in the same night.

  539. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Wow, that was just a disgraceful job by the umpire. Gameday shows at least 2 of the pitches in that at bat to Ramirez as strikes, and the 2-2 pitch was almost DOWN THE MIDDLE!

  540. mark June 20th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    “I don’t expect them to score 6 runs every night, but 4 shouldn’t be too much to ask when they’re facing below .500 teams.”

    RS does that mean that any team below .500 doesn’t have any top flight pitchers? Really?

  541. charleston2 June 20th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Pete, I think you meant Face-Off, not Mission IMpossible.

    But it’s OK.

  542. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    So far, it is AJ’s hit that is in the way of a no-hitter.

    We will score in the next three innings and pull this off. They will be seeing him for the third time, so hopeully they can touch him.

  543. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    ** The grayness of the day

    Everything looks yucky on gray, rainy days.

  544. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    :(

  545. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    GJ Damon

  546. RS June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Damon!! That cost us a run.

  547. m June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    According to Gameday, Hanley’s walk should’ve been a strikeout…

  548. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Damon lost that in the darkness.

  549. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    The Yankees OF Defense is a disaster!

  550. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Will Alex pinch hit today?

  551. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    uggggg Damon, still having eye trouble?

  552. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Damon….come on, man.

  553. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Jesus, Damon……..

  554. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Ballgame. Absolutely no way we’re getting 2 runs. Tough run to give up, because Johnny just…I mean…seriously. What was that?

  555. Austin June 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Johnny-be-bad

  556. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    DISGRACEFUL. DISGRACEFUL. DISGRACEFUL.

    Damon CANNOT miss that ball, ESPECIALLY in this kind of pitchers duel. And then he just SAT THERE and didn’t even try to pick up the ball afterwards.

    Unbelievable. The Yankees are GIVING THIS AWAY. Anyone who says otherwise is just delusional. They are mailing in at bat after at bat against Josh Johnson by swinging at garbage out of the zone, and just gave away probably the game clinching insurance run by dropping a ROUTINE fly ball.

    This team just doesn’t show up some nights. How about these primadonna millionaires actually earn their salaries for once?

  557. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    AJ has had some really CRAPPY D behind him…….that sucks. Thanks Johnny

  558. JT June 20th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Damon & Swisher… LOL

    If Damon comes back next year he has to be the DH, the guy is a clown in the field

  559. Cashman = Yankee Apocalypse June 20th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    GreenBeret7
    June 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
    Pat M.
    June 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
    GB, Andy Etch was the only catcher who’s appearence was enhanched when he put his mask on…..Good catcher that had a very long career……As earlier mentioned this kid Johnson is a very good pitcher….This is the type of Pitcher that Phil Hughes will morph into….
    ——————————————————————————————
    “Hopefully by next season, Phil Hughes will be the kind of pitcher that Johnson wants to be.Hopefully by next season, Phil Hughes will be the kind of pitcher that Johnson wants to be.”

    LOL!

    The kind of pitcher Johnson “wants to be”??

    You pathetic jealous H’oMo

  560. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    And that will just about do it. Bad play by Damon, but walks continue to do in Burnett.

  561. Bryan June 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    “According to Gameday, Hanley’s walk should’ve been a strikeout…”

    Yup just MLB inserted a tracker into the ball so the gameday location is a 100%

  562. RS June 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    “RS does that mean that any team below .500 doesn’t have any top flight pitchers? Really?”

    Not scoring against Johnson and Lannan is one thing, but those other two Nats pitchers shouldn’t have shut them down.

  563. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    AJ’s lost the plate this inning……..

  564. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Huhges up…

  565. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    “And then he just SAT THERE and didn’t even try to pick up the ball afterwards.”

    Melky was closer to the ball, and has a much better arm. Damon didn’t just lazily lay there, he stayed down to stay out of Melky’s field of vision, so that he could get the ball in.

    Also, I understand being angry when they don’t perform. The Nationals series, sure, they mailed that in. This is not a case of that. Johnson has been flatout awesome tonight. You can’t pin this game on the Yankee offense.

  566. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Pat M,

    Matt is just a crybaby who comes in here when the Yankees are losing.

    He knows nothing and just whines.

    I suppose Matt thinks it’s AJ’s fault Damon can’t catch a routine flyball.

  567. GiantsYanksDevilsNets June 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    O no, thats not on Damon. Thats Posada’s fault.

  568. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Come on AJ

  569. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Pete what do you expect from a team that plays in Land Shark Stadium, and that gives out cow bells.

  570. mark June 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    “Unbelievable. The Yankees are GIVING THIS AWAY. Anyone who says otherwise is just delusional. They are mailing in at bat after at bat against Josh Johnson by swinging at garbage out of the zone, and just gave away probably the game clinching insurance run by dropping a ROUTINE fly ball.

    This team just doesn’t show up some nights. How about these primadonna millionaires actually earn their salaries for once?”

    Did you hear them announce that Josh Johnson has the best nighttime ERA in the NL? B…E…S…T

    Teams facing him at night probably aren’t mailing it in. Just facing a real good pitcher. Learn the difference.

  571. grafxkid June 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Micheal Kay seriously needs to shut up about Damon’s missed ball. My GOD. Enough dude.

  572. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Burnett falling apart here again. Time to come get him.

  573. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    “I suppose Matt thinks it’s AJ’s fault Damon can’t catch a routine flyball.”

    Actually, he thinks it’s Posada’s fault. :P

  574. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    WOW SJ, are you really that dumb?

    What a brilliant post, considering my LAST POST was criticizing Damon for dropping a routine fly ball.

    Keep going on with your “high and mighty” attitude. You prove your lack of credibility with every baseless comment.

  575. stuart a June 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    nah.. aj’s walks are because of the catcher!!!!!!

    not really but baffoons on this site can’t jsut say AJ is a inconsistent tease.. always has been and always will..

    he just cannot pitch clean innings and last I saw this is not a homer park so being scared of contact because of the ballpark is bunk..

  576. mark June 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    “Matt is just a crybaby who comes in here when the Yankees are losing.”

    Is Matt Mo’sflattcutter in drag?

  577. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    AJ’s pitched a good game – no complaints. He may be getting tired, though – do you send him out for another inning or maybe go batter by batter?

  578. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Matt,

    You don’t know baseball!

  579. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Matt
    June 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
    DISGRACEFUL. DISGRACEFUL. DISGRACEFUL.

    Damon CANNOT miss that ball, ESPECIALLY in this kind of pitchers duel. And then he just SAT THERE and didn’t even try to pick up the ball afterwards.

    Unbelievable. The Yankees are GIVING THIS AWAY. Anyone who says otherwise is just delusional. They are mailing in at bat after at bat against Josh Johnson by swinging at garbage out of the zone, and just gave away probably the game clinching insurance run by dropping a ROUTINE fly ball.

    This team just doesn’t show up some nights. How about these primadonna millionaires actually earn their salaries for once?

    ————————————————————

    Yeah….it’s the stupid remarks like “just mailing it in” that shows that you don’t know what the Hell you’re talking about. You’ve used that isn so many posts that it means absolutely nothing.

  580. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Matt,

    Do you ever watch a game when you aren’t crying about something?

    You have to be one of the unhappiest children on this blog and that’s saying something.

  581. stuart a June 20th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    how about josh johnson is good and cano is stupid, swisher strikes out all the time, berroa stinks, and that about sums it up..

  582. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    anybody who blames aj for this is a joke….a total joke…this is one of his best starts of the year hands down…its just unfortunate johnson has been better…dudes a beast

  583. Losers June 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Matt you can’t criticize the “elite” in here or get mad or upset with how the Yankees play

    All you can say is aww shucks the season isn’t over yet it is ok

  584. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    RConn, AJ was not falling apart – he was struggling a bit. You can not take him out in that situation – you have to give him a chance to get out of it.

  585. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Johnson being a good pitcher is not why they have 0 runs on 1 hit tonight. It’s the fact that he’s falling behind every hitter, and they are chasing ball 2, 3, etc out of the zone and helping him out.

    So many at bats tonight that they are just not making Johnson work for his outs. It’s not like this guy is perfect, his ERA is above 0.00 for a reason. Teixeira up in the count 2-0 and he grounds out weakly on ball 3. Burnett singles, 1-0 count on Jeter and he chases ball 2, GIDP. It’s not like they are getting beaten by the best pitches in the world, they are getting beaten by their own over-aggressiveness.

  586. snowman June 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    A change is needed…unfair or not…you
    cant fire the players so Girardi has got to go NOW.

  587. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    How many times are they going to ground out to the pitcher??

  588. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    How many does that make that were hit right back to the pitcher? 5? 6?

  589. GiantsYanksDevilsNets June 20th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    “Micheal Kay seriously needs to shut up about Damon’s missed ball. My GOD. Enough dude.”

    Its not over, he’ll talk about it again on his little radio show.

  590. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    And yet again, Damon in a 1-0 count grounds out on ball 2.

    Anyone who thinks the Yankees are not beating themselves tonight needs to open their eyes. I don’t care if this guy is a good pitcher or not, he isn’t making a mistake because they aren’t even giving him a chance to do so.

  591. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    I don’t think anyone really expects the Yankees everytime out to just go out there and pound elite pitchers esp when they are throwing well. BUT, this is arguably the best lineup in baseball and this offense just looks absolutely pathetic against good pitching way too often. When a guy is dealing they just seem to completely give away at bats. Honestly, these pitchers do not even break a sweat. Earlier this season I do not even think they made Halladay throw 100 pitches in his complete game. Some of them are very good like Halladay and Josh Johnson but these guys are not anywhere close to Pedro in his prime and the Yankees used to make guys like him work. At the very least they used to make elite pitchers break a sweat. Instead what is suppossed to be the best offense in baseball looks like little leaguers. It really is pathetic to watch.

  592. m June 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Baserunner!

  593. KO June 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    The Yankees are rolling over and dying again on offense…. This is becoming a tired act as of late… Their approach has been pretty awful tonight…. Opposite field hitting seems to be a mystery to them lately

  594. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Stuart, AJ has pitched well tonight – he has had clean innings. I don’t think it’s fair to pick on an inning where he struggled with his control -Damon should have made that catch. The D has been pathetic tonight…..Melky’s non-catch was sad. Most games, even games where a starter is doing very well, they will have one inning where they aren’t the sharpest. If the Yankees lose, it will not be because of AJ.

  595. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    “Matt you can’t criticize the “elite” in here or get mad or upset with how the Yankees play”

    That’s not true. I think SJ44′s issue with Matt is that he typically only posts negative things. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a positive post from Matt. And I’m here every day – day and night.

  596. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Hopefully MLB overturns that double like the Pedroia double, Burnett deserves better.

  597. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    stuart a
    June 20th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    how about josh johnson is good and cano is stupid, swisher strikes out all the time, berroa stinks, and that about sums it up..

    ————————————————————

    and you’re a Matt wannabe. So now, this game is Cano’s fault?

  598. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Look what happens when you take a few pitches!

    Funny how that works. Maybe the coaches should post on the walls their OBP on the first 3 pitches vs. the last ones.

  599. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    YUCK

  600. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. June 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Lack of credibility = incessantly whining like a two year old when they’re losing + having nothing to say at all when they’re winning.

  601. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    “Some of them are very good like Halladay and Josh Johnson but these guys are not anywhere close to Pedro in his prime and the Yankees used to make guys like him work.”

    ————

    good point… maybe.

    except only Jeter and Posada were in those lineups and Jeter isn’t one of the guys who would work the count.

  602. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Damon error. Unearned run for AJ

  603. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Damon gets an Error for his misadventures in LF.

  604. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Matt,

    others have said it on here better than I.

    Have mommy tuck you in and call it a night.

    I’d actually take you more seriously if you ever posted when the Yankees were winning a game and you’re posts weren’t filled with nonsensical drivel.

  605. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    this is it…

    take advantage NOW

  606. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Come on, just get a base hit!

  607. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    That play by Damon should have been an error. That ball was very catchable.

  608. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    wow atleast AJ doesnt have the only hit of the night now

  609. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    If the Yanks do lose this game, the best they can do is take 2 out of 3, right?

    That is totally unacceptable!

    I mean UNACCEPTABLE!

    I mean *UNACCEPTABLE!*

    And I for one will not accept it.

  610. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    PLEASE Nick

    make up for weeks of atrocities by hitting this one

  611. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Swish up come on man do something!

  612. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Crap, Swisher at the plate :(

  613. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Inning over. Swisher at the plate.

  614. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Did Singleton just say “if Swisher gets a hold of one”? Remind me not to get the winning lottery numbers from Singleton. :P

  615. mark June 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    “Look what happens when you take a few pitches!”

    Or the pitcher starts to tire. One or the other right Matt?

  616. Serf June 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    CALLING IT NOW.

    Swisher hits a 3-run home run.

  617. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Oh yeah, because I don’t post HERE when they win, that means I have absolutely no credibility when I post? How about you realize that people come here to VENT when the team doesn’t play well? Maybe we don’t post on here all the time when they are both winning and losing, because we are WATCHING THE GAME and don’t make this blog our entire life?

    How about the fact that the guy just completely misrepresented what I just said by outright LYING about what my post was? That sure is credible!

    And look right there. Swisher swing at a pitch that bounces in front of home plate with runners on base. That will sure help you get a hit! Josh Johnson is not pitching as well as you think.

    Keep proving my point.

  618. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Why is it so hard to some people to deal with the fact that there are some good pitchers out there who don’t pitch for the Yankees? And that other teams do not exist simply to be sparring partners for the Yankees. They want to win, too.

  619. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Was this pitcher a rookie when Girardi managed the Marlins?

  620. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Sox up 3-0

    Tying run coming up in the form of Jeff Francouer. 1 out.

  621. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. June 20th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    “Matt you can’t criticize the “elite” in here or get mad or upset with how the Yankees play”
    That’s not true. I think SJ44’s issue with Matt is that he typically only posts negative things. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a positive post from Matt. And I’m here every day – day and night.
    **********************************
    You’re right, Laura. I haven’t seen one either. His posts are enough to make me get up and walk away from this place quite often.

  622. Rockks June 20th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    SWISHer at the plate = easy out for Johnson.

    He may be the worst fundamentals player I have ever seen

  623. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Johnson’s next pitch will be his 100th. Time to get to the bullpen, hopefully.

  624. thunderfangabe June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    “UPDATE, 9:04 p.m.: They just changed that call to an error. Justice is served. But the Yankees still trail 2-1.”

    prediction from pete?

  625. mark June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Did someone actually not care about looking like a total dope and post that the Yankee offense isn’t getting things done? Did the Yankee play last night?

  626. Evan June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Pete loves to say things like “tough night for the ‘Posada is washed up crowd.”

    Funny Pete – you don’t seem to mention “tough night for the ‘Joba should stay in the rotation crowd.” Maybe Joba has had a handful of quality starts – but most have been pretty average if not just plain bad.

    JOBA TO THE BULLPEN!

  627. Serf June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    LOL at the hundreds of BOOOOOO’s from the throw to 1st. This stadium is nuts.

  628. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    YES! Swisher at the plate :)

  629. grafxkid June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    cmon swish…yes!!!

  630. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Yes swish!!!

  631. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    It sounds like Cicadas!

    Lovely, Swisher!

  632. chr1zisNYY June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Atta boy Swish!

  633. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    ‘Bout time!

  634. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    “theyre either cheering for the yankees or the marlins”
    thanks for that insight michael kay.

  635. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    A swisher sweet!

    ;)

  636. Maria June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Yes!!!! Time to get to their bullpen!

  637. Scorpio June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Yeah! finally something!

  638. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    If it gets to Berroa does Alex come up?

  639. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Nice job by Swisher, but this just makes Damon’s error more glaring.

  640. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    So all those swisher haters what have you got to say for your selves now.

  641. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    DAMN YOU DAMON!

  642. Evan June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    “Rockks June 20th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    SWISHer at the plate = easy out for Johnson.

    He may be the worst fundamentals player I have ever seen”

    NICE CALL….

  643. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Did Kay really just say the crowd is either cheering for the Yankees or the Marlins?

  644. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Did Kay really just say the crowd is either cheering for the Yankees or the Marlins?

  645. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Oh look! A run

  646. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    ““theyre either cheering for the yankees or the marlins”

    “thanks for that insight michael kay.”

    Good thing he told us. I thought they were cheering for the San Francisco Giants. :)

  647. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Wow

    Good thing games are 9 innings and not 6.

    Maybe someday people will figure that out.

    Lets go Yanks! This is the time to get it done.

  648. m June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Okay, now the second error really hurts. C’mon Melky.

  649. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Doreen – are you going to post pics of your tour at some point? I’d love to see them, if you are.

  650. Tom June 20th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Burnett has done a brutal job of all year of allowing that one key killer run rather then bearing down

    Pitching just well enough to lose. Doesn’t help that he is seemingly matched up with all of other other teams aces.

  651. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Matt, what pearls of wisdom are you going to share now ????Mail Call

  652. mark June 20th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Matt before you look stupid again Johnson’s over 100 pitches. Stop looking stupid. A good pitcher is tiring.

  653. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Terrible

  654. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    “So all those swisher haters what have you got to say for your selves now.”- Jennifer

    I am not a Swisher hater, but one hit does not absolve him of his mistakes in recent weeks.

  655. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Tom, I think you mean Damon allowed one key killer run rather than bearing down.

  656. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Johnson at 103 pitches. Do they send him out there for the 8th?

  657. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    “Burnett has done a brutal job of all year of allowing that one key killer run rather then bearing down”

    ———

    what the heck are you talking about?

    he has pitched a gem. the only thing brutal here is your poor timing.

    save that line for when AJ actually deserves it.

  658. Brandon W June 20th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Guys.. JJ is one of the best pitchers in the NL right now. He doesn’t get taken out of a 1 run game just because he hit that 100 pitch count. If he gets out of this quickly, he may even come back out for the 8th.

    Scoring 1 run and hitting the 100 pitch count doesn’t instantly ensure a call to the bullpen and a come-from-behind victory.

    Some people on this blog have less patience than the players (such as Cano) that they complain about. Don’t celebrate “Time to get to their bullpen!” until it actually gets there, especially with this guy on the mound.

  659. Cashman = Yankee Apocalypse June 20th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    This Marlins kid is giving me semi.

  660. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    The Pro Yankee FL crowd has been louder than any Yankee stadium crowd all year.

  661. Evan June 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Yanks should have traded Melky Cabrera – or should do so before the deadline.

    They got all they could out of him and his value will never be higher. With a future as a 4th outfielder (A-JAX) what good is he for us?

    Not to mention, he still is a mediocre player at best. I’m not a big fan of his and since his value is high, now is the time to move him.

  662. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Angel -

    Yes, I’ll post my pictures. But I haven’t gotten them off the camera yet. :)

  663. mark June 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    I see why a lot of the regulars stay away from this blog. Is this the march of the mental cases or what!

  664. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    God knows that I love the Yankees, but there is no way that I’d drive that Yankee Mustang. It would either get stolen by some other Yankee fan or trashed by some Mets fan.

  665. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Hopefully the Fish PH for the pitcher this inning…

  666. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Angel I posted some too. Scroll up.

  667. GiantsYanksDevilsNets June 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    “theyre either cheering for the yankees or the marlins
    thanks for that insight michael kay.”

    He got me there.

  668. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Doreen – Been to the New Stadium
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
    ***It sounds like Cicadas*** !

    Lovely, Swisher!

    ————————————————————

    Wait!! The Yankees signed another Latin catcher? They got Jose Cicades signed? Great news. He’s a high average, power hitter with speed.

  669. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Funny how that works. You drop a routine fly ball, and it is almost ALWAYS the difference in the game.

  670. Tom June 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Marlins have a very good pen

    Dan Meyer and Leo Nunez along with Lindstrom and his 100 MPH fastball closing it out

  671. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    That hug was kind of gay, if you ask me.

  672. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    FL is going to regret that move!

  673. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Doreen- Scroll up to my post. Give me a wink if you saw what I saw by Swishers locker.

  674. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    With this lineup its not ok for these pitchers to have such low pitch counts night in and night out when facing good pitching. The Yankees are very lucky the Marlins did not turn the DP cause Johnson probably would have finished this game. If you do not see its a problem that their at bats are so pathetic I do not know what game you are watching. Even Jeter has been swinging at crap all night.

  675. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Didn’t coke pitch last night?

  676. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Good job by AJ…….

  677. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    nm

  678. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    “That hug was kind of gay, if you ask me.”

    Did someone ask you? :P

  679. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    double switch? AJ is up 2nd next inning.

  680. Cashman = Yankee Apocalypse June 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Eights
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    That hug was kind of gay, if you ask me.

    HAH!!!

    I concur!!

  681. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Exactly. They are “giving it away” not because they aren’t scoring or getting hits, but because they aren’t even making him WORK until the last inning.

    Until Melky’s at bat in the 6th, the longest at bat in the game had been from AJ BURNETT. OUR PITCHER. He also had 2/3 balls hit out of the infield.

    That’s just WEAK.

  682. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Johnson was 12-7, 3.10 for Girardi in 2006 as a 22-year-old. If he can stay healthy he has a chance to be special.

    AJ got scrrewed in the innning when Florida scored its second run. Melky should have caught the pop that fell in front of him and Damon’s miscue was horrible.

    You see Burnett give Jorge a love tap as he was pulled… so much for their “problem”.

  683. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    does the audio of the crowd sound weird? sounds like hissing.

  684. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    SI_JonHeyman if anyone’s looking to buy a home near dallas, mark teixeira’s selling his. makes sense. that’d be one tough commute

  685. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    “Did someone ask you? :P “-Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!

    Listen miss, talk like that again and see what happens. ;)

  686. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    You just admitted you don’t post here when they are winning. LOL

    Credibility goes right out the window.

    Venting=whining. Same thing to me.

    A 2-1 game against one of the best pitchers in the NL on the road and you are crying after every pitch.

    That’s why we are making fun of you tonight.

    Night, night.

  687. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    wooo punch for Posada!

  688. Raiiney-Moreno June 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    “Wait!! The Yankees signed another Latin catcher? They got Jose Cicades signed? Great news. He’s a high average, power hitter with speed.”

    Why do you have to say “another Latin catcher” Can’t you just say catcher?

  689. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Who hugged?

    I would not like it if Phil doesn’t come in at all after warming up…

  690. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Coke is nasty

  691. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Jennifer -

    Scroll up. I answered your post. I didn’t see anything at Swish’s locker but his collage!!! Now I’m curious what I missed. I saw a picture at Damon’s locker we assumed was his wife.

    I felt so rushed in the clubhouse. Really rushed. And of course, no pix allowed (which is fine, no problem with that). But that’s why a lot of the people go on this tour – to see the clubhouse – I was really looking forward to that part. It takes a moment to take it all in, and then you get something like Swish’s collage which really gets you. And before you know it, they’re telling you to move on out. And that’s the last part of the tour!

  692. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    The way Burnett has dominated the 1 and 2 hitters tonight, I don’t know if this is really a move that was necessary. Girardi is so obsessed with his “lefty on lefty” nonsense that he doesn’t leave in the pitcher sometimes who has been dominating these guys all game.

    With the pitcher’s slot in the lineup due up next inning, it seems like it might be a better idea to let the guy finish the inning, then pinch hit for him and save a bullpen arm. Rather then use Coke for 2 outs and PH for him right away.

  693. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Coke has been dealing

  694. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    ARod has to pinch hit in the eighth, doesn’t he?

  695. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    How did you guys get tickets for the tour? I have been trying for awhile now and ticketmaster always says that there are none available.

  696. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Is it possible that Sabathia and Burnett were more comfortable with Cervelli because he caught them a lot in ST?

    I don’t remember if that’s true or not, but it seems like in ST, Cervelli (and Molina) would see just as much time, if not more, than Posada.

  697. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    The Melky non-catch was in the same inning as Damon’s error? Boy, can’t believe I forgot that – I thought they were in different innings.

  698. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    “Listen miss, talk like that again and see what happens.”

    :P

  699. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    GB7-

    We are cool. I have never held a grudge in my life. I am actually too flaky and I forget I am mad :-)

    The week and a half I was sick was horrible and I am definitely not myself totally yet, but I am getting there. Eventually, I might even return to the gym :-)

  700. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    You clearly gain more credibility by insulting anyone that disagrees with your opinion, and by outright LYING about what I posted to prove your false point.

    Keep acting like you’re the blog police. Just because you proclaim yourself a “regular,” it doesn’t mean you have to the right to control what everyone else says and thinks.

  701. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    GJ Coke

  702. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!

  703. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    JJ was throwing 67% of his pitches for strikes going into the 7th.

    Pretty tough to work counts when 2 out of every 3 pitches are strikes.

    He is a very tough guy to face.

  704. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Lord bless Phil Coke, because he’s been so good lately, but I CANNOT STAND how he points up at almost EVERYTHING in the air. It could be fouled straight back in to the press box, and he’d still point up.

  705. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    AJ was tiring ….and isn’t it like 90 degrees in Florida tonight? Joe made the right call taking AJ out……

  706. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Doreen- I felt rushed the entire tour. In the museum, and clubhouse.

    Do I have your email? Since you went, I’ll tell you what I saw. Don’t know if I really should post it here. Since it is kinda their private space.

  707. Brandon W June 20th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    I agree with you Matt. It wasn’t a bad move, it just may not have been really necessary. I definitely would have taken him out for Hanley, but at least give him another batter or two.

    On the other hand, AJ was tiring. His velocity was down (his FBs were clocking in 91-93) and he had been getting wild the inning before. Missing with 91mph fastballs means it’s only a matter of time before you get hit hard.

    Overall, I’ll defer to Girardi’s experience and judgment on this one, since he is the professional manager and all…

    Besides, Coke got out his batters. That’s good enough for me.

  708. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Berroa bats and then Alex PH for the pitcher. I like it.

  709. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Or you can bat Matsui and Alex. Then put in Hughes and Pena.

  710. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    SJ, what did you think of AJ’s performance tonight? I think Yankee fans should be very pleased………

    I guess we can put to rest AJ and Jorge not being able to work together? or AJ not wanting to throw to Jorge? .

  711. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Okay, now that I just turned on my TV- I would liek to say whoever thought of cowbell night should be shot on contact

  712. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Matt,

    you are doing it to yourself tonight. No help needed from me.

  713. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    get those rally caps on

  714. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Doreen- Saw the keys too. My friend told one of the people running the tour about Robertson leaving them lying around. I don’t think they were going to move them though.

  715. mark June 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Matt and friends should send a petition to MLB complaining that the Nats beat the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Mets, the Jays, and now have the game tied in the 8th. It’s gotta be the same crowd that said the Nats had no business beating the Yankees. That’s the same mentality that doesn’t understand getting outpitched by a great pitcher.

  716. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    I forgot about Godzilla.

  717. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Erica – newly OPPC
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
    GB7-

    We are cool. I have never held a grudge in my life. I am actually too flaky and I forget I am mad

    The week and a half I was sick was horrible and I am definitely not myself totally yet, but I am getting there. Eventually, I might even return to the gym

    ————————————————————

    Erica…not a problem and I’m happy that you’re feeling better. I wasn’t ragging you as much as making fun of the one that’s blaming any injuries to Rodriguez on steroid use. Wasn’t intended to make fun of your illness. Being sick is no joke. My apologies.

  718. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    This sponsorship stuff is important for their money making, I’m sure, but it just looks completely ridiculous sometimes.

    The “drive of the game,” well obviously it’s the only home run hit tonight!

    Why would he have Matsui pinch hit for Berroa and A-Rod for the pitcher? Wouldn’t he want it to be the other way around in case he wants to leave A-Rod in to play third? Otherwise he has to burn his entire bench practically this inning, and it wouldn’t make any sense to double switch the pitcher into the 8 hole.

  719. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Matsui!!

  720. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Time for an A-Bomb.

  721. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Go Gardner Go!!!

  722. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Here’s a big at bat for A-Rod! Now with a night off, hopefully he’ll feel a bit better at the plate.

  723. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    NYY626- Are you still out there?

    I am very curious- Is your handle a tribute to a Mazda, your birthday, or Derek Jeter’s birthday???

  724. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Nice to see Gardner in the game.

  725. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Time to break out of the slump? He hasn’t seen a reception like this since…well…probably ever.

  726. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Wait, are those cheers for Arod?

  727. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    SJ, when you swing at pitches out of the zone that also counts towards to that 67% and they definitly did a lot of that tonight.

  728. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    The Yankees must like the NL. Our pitchers are hitting, and our pinch-hitters are getting on base.

  729. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    need to take a pitch and let GGBG steal…

  730. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    BG!!!

  731. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Gardner…. YOU THE MAN!

  732. Tom in N.J June 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Gritty Gutty Base Stealer

  733. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    I guess the bump on GGBG’s head is okay

  734. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    wow wat a stop tho… CMON A ROD!!

  735. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Alex never got cheered this much at YS.

  736. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Good job BG. C’mon Alexxxxxxxxxx!!!!!!!!!

  737. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Can anyone make the argument with the way Melky is swinging the bat that he is really more valuable in this lineup that Gardner?

  738. SJ44 June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    AJ pitched very well tonight. Should be a 1-1 game.

    Very pleased with his performance.

    Flash bulbs going off on every pitch to Arod.

  739. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Cool, I’ll look forward to seeing them, Doreen. Can you tell I’m living vicariously through your family Yankee trips? :D

  740. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Alex is 0-8 pinch hitting. He is not good in the pinch over his career, so I’m really not expecting much, but will gladly take it if he produces.

  741. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    just move him over some how… lets go a rod… u can do it

  742. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    What is it with Florida and cowbells?

  743. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    if he walks jeter better be bunting

  744. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    May have to double steal with Jeter on deck lol.

  745. Zooboy June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Does Jeter bunt?

  746. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Thanks GB7 :-)

  747. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    thatda boy!… now bunt jete!

  748. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Jeter bunt?

    :)

  749. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Bunt Baby Bunt!

  750. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    wow… where was that 3-1 pitch? high?

  751. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Was hoping for a dinger. But a walk will do.

  752. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    I agree with what someone said earlier that if they can sell high on Melky they definitly should

  753. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    jeter better bunt. or double steal with gardner and pena :)

  754. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    double steal so Mr. DP doesn’t hit into a one?

  755. mark June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    “Can anyone make the argument with the way Melky is swinging the bat that he is really more valuable in this lineup that Gardner?”

    I don’t think anyone cares right now. Maybe another day. We have a game here.

  756. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    nvm kept a rod in..

  757. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    probably a double play comin up with DJ up

  758. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Money Balldriguez ?

    He’s never been cheered that loud in YS

  759. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Leo is doing a wonderful job so far. Keep it up Leo

  760. ray (sox fan) June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    I will be among the first to admit that he is a jerk. At the same time if Beckett is on he is a tough pitcher.

    He just pitched a complete game shut out against Derek Lowe and the Braves. No walks and 7 K’s.

  761. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Why is Pena not pinch running for Arod?

  762. bodhisattva - OPPC member - Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    jennifer
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
    Alex never got cheered this much at YS.
    =====

    Actually, there is a large contingent of fans who really have tried for a few years now to clap and vocalize support for him and counter the idiots who boo him. I’m convinced a good deal of these boo culture types aren’t even Yankee fans, but vicarious Mets/Red Sox fans.

  763. linkoln June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    “Keep acting like you’re the blog police. Just because you proclaim yourself a “regular,” it doesn’t mean you have to the right to control what everyone else says and thinks.”

    I support you on this point, Matt. We don’t all have to agree but I do find that certain regulars lambast, mock and instigate alot of the antagonism on this blog for no reason.

    Keep posting, it’s your right.

  764. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Do I dare say this is louder than New Yankee Stadium?

  765. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Godzilla breathes fire…

    Becomes a Gardner gliding…

    A-Rod takes a walk…

  766. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    a walk wud also be awesome

  767. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    I hope this guys walks Jeter because I don’t want him to bunt but I’m scared he’ll hit into a DP.

  768. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    jeter better bunt. or double steal with gardner and pena :)
    =————————–

    Pena can’t pinch run since he’s coming in for Matsui

  769. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    im here, its a tribute to both mine and jeter’s bdays! ( my claim to fame lol) Ive also always wanted a mazda 626!

  770. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    damnit jeter let him steal

  771. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    “Do I dare say this is louder than New Yankee Stadium?”

    Dare say your right.

  772. joe-seppi June 20th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    the old people that live down in S. Florida are really gettin’ it on!

  773. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    “I will be among the first to admit that he is a jerk. At the same time if Beckett is on he is a tough pitcher.”

    ——–

    Is anyone contesting that?

    I saw the game and he was locked in. It was scary :(

  774. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    “Do I dare say this is louder than New Yankee Stadium?”

    It’s the cowbells :)

  775. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    NYY626
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    im here, its a tribute to both mine and jeter’s bdays! ( my claim to fame lol) Ive also always wanted a mazda 626!
    ****
    LOL. Thank you for clearing that up. I share a birthday with Ian Kennedy. Not nearly as cool.

    Happy almost birthday!

  776. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    the bunt was only to draw the infield in, when they stay back it’s mind games.

  777. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Terrible bunt by Jeter. Just…wow. This is why he shouldn’t be charged with bunting. I liked the hit and run call, and really wish it had worked.

  778. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Damn You Jeter… you better get a hit for my fantasy team

  779. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Erica- It is louder than YS. Much louder.

  780. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    i hate how he moves both hands… i dont know how many of u play baseball… but its definately a lot easier to keep ur bottom hand still and just move the top hand. but then again im not a major leaguer

  781. NYY626 June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    im really pissed at myself right now beacuse i made movie plans at 10….i should have got tix for a later show! i dont want to miss the end

  782. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Feels like October for half an inning.

  783. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Gardner will stay in game, pitcher will hit in Damon’s spot… a delayed double switch.

  784. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    “He just pitched a complete game shut out against Derek Lowe and the Braves. No walks and 7 K’s.”

    Sorry ray, but his pitching talent doesn’t negate his jerkiness. LOL!

  785. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    “I share a birthday with Ian Kennedy. Not nearly as cool.”

    ———

    I share mine with Teixeira! (and Varitek :( )

  786. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Come on, Jeter. We just need something to RF.

  787. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    OMFG… wow

  788. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Of course Jeter

  789. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Captain DP!

  790. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Jeter is terrible man. Im sorry.

  791. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Saw that one coming.

  792. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    well that sucked for us

  793. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Oh well……

  794. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    $%&@… Captain DP returns!

  795. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    thats just awful

  796. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    My God, Jeter is just terrible right now. GIDP after GIDP. Never should have been in that count, though, because seriously, WHY was he bunting?

  797. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    ouch!

    actually… double ouch

  798. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    I’ll take credit for that thank you

  799. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Can we get that kid for our BP ?

  800. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    UNBELIEVABLE.

    Routine bunt, Jeter doesn’t get it down, then hits into a DP.
    e
    The Yankees cannot get the SIMPLE stuff done, and it costs them ballgame after ballgame.

    But oh no he’s the captain?!!?? He still SCREWED UP and probably cost us this game.

  801. tex's friend June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    good work captain.

  802. Pel June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    CLUTCH!

  803. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    NYY626
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
    im really pissed at myself right now beacuse i made movie plans at 10….i should have got tix for a later show! i dont want to miss the end
    ****
    What movie?? I really want to see the Hangover. its supposed to be hilarious

  804. Yanks_Fan June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Whats the score?

  805. Cliff June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    You guys are idiots

  806. Blackdragon905 June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    saw that coming…ugh

  807. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    damn jeter…you had to pick this game to be bad :(…need a hit now

  808. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Just a horrible game for Jeter. He’s got to do better than that.

  809. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Argh
    :(

  810. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Damon’s looms largely, bouncing eyes or not, avenge that error :evil:

  811. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    “I’ll take credit for that thank you”

    ——–

    I predicted you were a d-bag a long time ago.

    You don’t see me taking credit for it, you pretentious SOB.

  812. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Damon will bail us out with a single.

  813. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    It’s Alex’s fault for not hitting a homerun.

  814. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Argh…this is why I don’t agree with the idea that Jeter should never bunt. He hardly hits anything into the air, which means it’s hit or bust.

  815. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    I hate that nickname, Captain DP – seriously, it’s as if Jeter has never done anything in his career. Sheesh.

  816. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Donnie? You just complained why is he bunting? You don’t see why? He tried to hit and grounded into a dp. that is why he is bunting.

  817. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    #

    # Erica – newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    NYY626
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
    im really pissed at myself right now beacuse i made movie plans at 10….i should have got tix for a later show! i dont want to miss the end

    ****
    What movie?? I really want to see the Hangover. its supposed to be hilarious

    Hangover was one of hte funniest movies ever

  818. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    I support you on this point, Matt. We don’t all have to agree but I do find that certain regulars lambast, mock and instigate alot of the antagonism on this blog for no reason.
    Keep posting, it’s your right.

    ************************************************
    Ummm, no. As a regular, rather than read Matt’s drivel these days, I walk away from my computer. There’s no point in saying anything to him, he becomes incredibly defensive and hostile.

    Sure, its his right to post what he wants, but if my posts were causing people to do that in droves – I’d rethink my posting style.

  819. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Boston Dave-

    Let’s just leave it as “you share a birthday with Teixiera” :-)

  820. whoa June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    wow

  821. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Jennifer -

    I hate to give my e-mail out here, since it uses my last name. I have a facebook page at facebook.com/dorgal218. I can “friend” you and then you can send a message to my inbox there. Would that work?

    Angel –

    Glad to be of use. :lol:

    Jeter – UGGG! How bad was that???? So disappointing.

    This would be the time for Damon to make right on his error.

  822. tex's friend June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    what are the chances damon atones for the run he cost burnett?

  823. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    It would be a nice time for a wild pitch.

  824. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Jeter’s DPs don’t shock or disappoint anymore. We all have a knack for something.

  825. Lou in SoCal June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Good job Jeter see what happens when you don’t get the bunt down

  826. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    I think I am going to try to see the Hangover if it rains again tomorrow

  827. Joe June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    IF AROD HITS INTO THAT DOUBLE PLAY, THE KILL HIM. WHAT HAS JETER DONE? 2 DOUBLE PLAYS TODAY. LAST NIGHT, BASES LOADED GOT NOTHING AS WELL.

  828. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Does any team ground into more DPs with the game on the line than the Yankees. If they lose this game this may be the 5th time they have lost games because they GIDPs in the biggest spot in the game.

  829. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    My pretend boyfriend (Johnny Damon) will come through

  830. Losers June 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Pathetic

  831. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Yeah, right Matt – Jeter is to blame for all the ills in the world. Give me a break – Damon made a ridiculous error that allowed the 2nd run to score, they played bad D all game and Josh Johnson was great. I’m telling you, it’s UNBELIEVABLE!

  832. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    “Let’s just leave it as “you share a birthday with Teixiera””

    ———

    I will. :)

    I actually hung out with Tek at his house last summer. He’s not a bad guy… but he didn’t know I was a Yankees fan when he allowed me to visit.

    He got a nice chuckle out of it.

  833. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Just did it.

  834. James June 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    From now on, Jeter needs to bunt everytime there are runners on

  835. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    “I hate that nickname, Captain DP – seriously, it’s as if Jeter has never done anything in his career. Sheesh.”

    Sorry, Betsy – but even you have to admit that Jeter bounces into more DPs than anyone else. They ran the stats and his DP numbers were horrendous. He has earned the nickname Captain DP.

  836. Cliff June 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    There is a reason every other yankees blog looks at all you commenters as idiots and not real fans. Get a clue. Good riddance lo hud.

  837. tyler June 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    cmon johnny D

  838. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Betsy he could have made the world a better place tonight but he chose to gidp.

  839. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Laura -

    I got tour tickets when the first announced they were giving them a few months ago. I missed out last year because I procrastinated too long. :( It would have been nice to compare old to new in the last year of one and the first of the other. Oh, well.

  840. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Great swing Damon

  841. Bronx 77 June 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Captain DP is the one who needs the day off, not A-Rod

  842. tex's friend June 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    damon and jeter are having amazing games at the top tonight.

  843. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    “There is a reason every other yankees blog looks at all you commenters as idiots and not real fans.”

    Josh Beckett, is that you? :P

  844. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    and that my friends is why this team will not go anywhere even if they make the playoffs.

    they can’t do the little things to win the game, they just find ways to lose it. truly unbelievable that a simple task like a bunt cannot be done

  845. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Tex, Posada, and Cano up against their righty closer in the 9th

    dont lose hope

  846. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Again, there’s a reason why Girardi called for Jeter to bunt in that situation. The odds were about 70 to 30 that he would hit something on the ground as opposed to in the air.

    And once again, this team is TERRIBLE at situational hitting. Just god awful. You can’t win championships unless you can hit a sac fly once in a while, and this team never does that.

  847. Losers June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Can’t catch, can’t bunt, can’t lay off pitches over your head

    But it’s ok don’t get mad

  848. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Damon has been awful lately

  849. daver June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    That stinks. Runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs and we get bupkis.

  850. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Sorry, Laura – I don’t think Jeter deserves any kind of snarky nickname.

  851. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Captain can’t collect…

    Gonzalez goes to Meyer…

    Damon’s debt deferred…

  852. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Make the world a better place?

    OMG. That ranks right up there with use of the word “atone”.

    :roll:

  853. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Absolutely useless. All they had to do was do one of TWO routine things correctly today, and they easily win this game.

    1) Damon catch a routine fly ball
    2) Jeter lay down a routine bunt, when the pitcher is even throwing him easy pitches to bunt in changeups low in the zone

    Yet, they didn’t get either of the EASY plays right, and are losing this game as a result.

    Amazing how this team is so fundamentally unsound, and how it manages to cost them almost EVERY TIME.

  854. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    “I got tour tickets when the first announced they were giving them a few months ago.”

    Lucky you. I have been trying for almost 3 months with no luck.

  855. Eric June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Johnny Damon= Daniel Murphy

  856. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    “Donnie? You just complained why is he bunting? You don’t see why? He tried to hit and grounded into a dp. that is why he is bunting.”

    Jeter’s hitting .317 with RISP, which leads the team. He burned two strikes by fouling the ball off, one on a bunt. The GIDP was facilitated by being in a two-strike count, and having to swing at anything even remotely close to the plate. In this case, he got jammed by something on the inside corner, because he HAD to swing at it. If he’d been allowed to swing, which is what he’s done better than anyone else on this squad this year, we might have had a different result. Maybe he would STILL GIDP, but that was a prime chance to score, and over-managing blew it.

    That, and Johnny’s awful AB. He should get a pie in the face tonight. From the Marlins.

  857. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    late innings…. 2-1 game… 2 on….. no outs…. ZERO RUNS! The lack of execution with this team lately is just laughable.

  858. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    “and that my friends is why this team will not go anywhere even if they make the playoffs.”

    ————

    if I were you, I’d stick to “my blogmates”

    if you’re ever “my friend”, just shoot me

  859. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Boston Dave – OPPC
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    I will.

    I actually hung out with Tek at his house last summer. He’s not a bad guy… but he didn’t know I was a Yankees fan when he allowed me to visit.

    He got a nice chuckle out of it.
    **
    Does he shake his a$$ when he is home too?

  860. Donnie June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Lack of executed fundamentals… what else is new?

    A tiger never changes its stripes.

  861. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    LOL good job Damon…….

  862. The Ghost June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Is Gardner trying to win the stealing percentage title? This catcher has thrown out 7 runners all year? I can’t understand why he didn’t just take 3rd base. Why is he so tentative all the time? Girardi really disappoints me in these kind of situations. Tell me what is the danger in hitting and running with Gardner on 2nd? The only thing that can beat him is a line drive and that is definitely a lower percentage than a DP.

  863. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    and now the yanks will probably actually lose the game by letting up a 2 spot

  864. Terry from NH June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Wow, that was one of the most disappointing innings. Set up perfectly for failure again.. Nothing new there. Jeter was terrible in that situation and Damon didn’t atone for that error with that swing!

  865. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Cool A-Rod stays in the game. I keep forgetting about the double switch

  866. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Jeter just took the freshly baked cookie out of my hands with that DP.

  867. Yankz 61 June 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    So much talent and so bad fundamentally. Every Spring we think it will be different than the previous year and it never is.

  868. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Laura

    It is my understanding that you can go down and buy tickets day of. I think they hold back a few. call 646-977-TOUR and ask.

  869. daver June 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Damon must of had caffeine today…his couldn’t hit the balls with his googly eyes.

  870. Atul June 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Jeter should have bunted

  871. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. June 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Cliff
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
    There is a reason every other yankees blog looks at all you commenters as idiots and not real fans. Get a clue. Good riddance lo hud.

    ******************************************************

    I’ve been on lots of yankee blogs and there are Yankee fans who are prone to making stupid comments on all of them, even Bronx Banter, RLYF, RAB, YES, yankees.com and NY Daily News.

  872. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    that looked like a strike to me

  873. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Eights
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    Saw that one coming.

    ————————————————————

    You couldn’t see a damned city bus coming at you from 10 feet away.

  874. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    “Does he shake his a$$ when he is home too?”

    ———-

    LOL… he didnt do much a$$ shaking but at one point he was getting ready for a game that night and I saw he was covered in bruises. I asked him if those were from catching Daisuke and he just laughed.

    I was tempted to kidnap him but then I remembered he was hitting .220 with no pop last year. I should have asked him for Pedroia’s address instead :)

  875. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Nice Hughes

  876. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    YES gun 89 mph

    FLA gun and MLB.com 95 mph

  877. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    nevermind, PH is dealing

  878. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    “Sorry, Laura – I don’t think Jeter deserves any kind of snarky nickname.”

    I like Jeter as much as anyone and recognize his participation in the wonderful run the Yankees had back in the ’90s. However, that doesn’t give him a pass on his failures. He is a DP machine. Calling him Captain DP doesn’t minimize his greatness or his HOF credentials. He’s a great player who bounces into a ton of double plays.

  879. jennifer June 20th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Laura
    Or call this number P) 718.508.3917

  880. mark June 20th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    The day that it’s ever okay for the Yankees to lose a game give me a call. I’m outta here. What a tired act some of you are. The Yankees can’t lose without being accused of mailing it in, stinking, being poor situational hitters and every other thing. Never that the other team just did a good job.

  881. Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 20th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    “It is my understanding that you can go down and buy tickets day of. I think they hold back a few. call 646-977-TOUR and ask.”

    The next time I’m in NY, I’ll give that a try. Thanks.

  882. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Wow, 2 outs already?

  883. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    If A-Rod did what Jeter just did, you would say how he should be traded, benched, and how much better they are without him. Since Jeter is the “captain,” he gets a total and complete pass from the blind homers of the Lohud Yankees Blog.

  884. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Like I said…

    Tex, Posada and Cano up against their righty closer

    Go Yanks!!!

  885. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    What a pitch by Phil!

  886. Joe June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Now you know why Girardi bunts so much? Because if he doesn’t, then we will hit into a DP or make some kind of unproductive out.

    We are a putrid team an executing fundamentals.

  887. miggs June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Hughes!

    Looking good. How many teams have a guy like Hughes as their 6th starter?

    Yankee fans are so spoiled.

  888. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Wow Philly.

  889. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Beautiful Hughes. Now give him the win.

  890. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Youuuuuse

  891. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    People are going going to be all over me, but could Yusssse be the BP guy ? :lol:

  892. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Boston Dave – OPPC
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
    LOL… he didnt do much a$$ shaking but at one point he was getting ready for a game that night and I saw he was covered in bruises. I asked him if those were from catching Daisuke and he just laughed.

    I was tempted to kidnap him but then I remembered he was hitting .220 with no pop last year. I should have asked him for Pedroia’s address instead
    ****
    Try Beckett. Although, prior to two years ago I would have said Schilling.

    At this risk of sounding a little crazy, I used to wish Schilling choked on his bloody sock. Or maybe broke a finger doing all of his senseless blogging

  893. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    I honestly think the Yankees are the WORST team in the league at getting runners in from 2nd w/no outs and from 3rd w/1 out.

    Even if they don’t have the very worst percentage in baseball, you have to remember the Yankees have far better hitters than other teams.

    It isn’t Melky and Berroa that have let us down in those situations. More times than not it has been Jeter, Arod, Damon, Cano, and other big time hitters.

  894. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    They don’t pay Jeter 20 million to bunt. They pay him 20 million to hit in to double plays.

  895. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    how about this inning they load the bases with nobody out and see if they can score 0 runs!!

  896. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Come on guys!!!!!!!!! We need a Tex message!

  897. Aura June 20th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    I’m really sick of Jeter not being able to get a critical bunt down, Girardi was supposed to be Mr. Fundamentals but I guess he’s got no real authority over Jeter because someone needs to tell him he has to practice bunting a little more than he does.

  898. tampayank June 20th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    “jennifer
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
    Alex never got cheered this much at YS.


    :(
    sad but true

    “Carl
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    Feels like October for half an inning.


    yeah that 8th inning was loud, felt like glimpse of October, let’s see if Tex can get this thing tied in the 9th…and Jeter ugh….and some people want him at LF for 5 more years?

  899. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    “The day that it’s ever okay for the Yankees to lose a game give me a call. I’m outta here”

    ————

    matt, give me a break.

    playoff baseball teams are supposed to win at least 55% of their games.

    I’m pretty good at math so I know that’s pretty close to 100%.

  900. ML June 20th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Tex leadoff double, then we can’t score – calling it.

  901. Terry from NH June 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    I hate it when this team starts to get great pitching and the hitting falls apart. Can they just get things going on all cylinders at once? This is frustrating as all heck!

  902. Pel June 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    yanks last licks loom large
    opportunity knocks once
    twice if they’re lucky

  903. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    RS, the problem is that they are also one of the worst teams with a man on 3rd and less than two outs. Either way, they are just filled with BAD situational hitters. There’s no other way to look at it. Man on 3rd and less than 2 outs they have struggled with for a couple years now

  904. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Laura, we’ll just have to disagree. I’m giving him a pass because I refuse to call him by a dumb nickname? Jeter should be criticized when he deserves it – that’s as far as I will go.

  905. Tom June 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    These are professional baseball players and they can’t get the bunt down? I’ve seen that from Cabrera and Jeter lately.

    You’d be benched immediately even in the little leagues for failing like this.

    But, okay, it’s Jeter. Jeter, God of the Yankees, he is allowed to.

  906. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Tex, Po and Cano

    Let’s have some magic

  907. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Great job by Phil Hughes. :)

    I kinda feel good about this inning. For absolutely no reason.

    Love Jeter to death, but it’s no longer a surprise when he hits into a DP. I don’t know if I’d call him Captain DP, though. Cause he’s Jeter.

  908. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    did someone really blame the DP grounder on a failed bunt attempt? That’s amazing. I likethat Girardi tried starting the runners once and had the bunt on once. Execute either time and they probably havethe lead by now.

    The failure to add an outfielder to replace Nady really hurts in games like this. Damon and Swisher both could use a rest.

  909. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Tex!

  910. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    “Try Beckett. Although, prior to two years ago I would have said Schilling.”

    ——–

    even Sox employees (to be fair, the ones that I know of) don’t like Beckett.

    He treats them all like garbage.

    Papelbon isn’t much better.

  911. Jason June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    off the bag! thats gotta be a good sign, right?

  912. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Nice to see a glimpse of Tex.

    Been a while.

  913. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Now Posada lord help us!

  914. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    now we can all watch Jorge ground into a DP

  915. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Please Farnsy-Lindstrom show up

    I feel like we’ll fall short tonight. Get’em tomorrow.

  916. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    86w183 -

    Thanks for the info on Johnson, earlier.

  917. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    some of the bloggers here obviously “mailed it in”

    the Yanks didn’t…. lets go!!!

  918. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    NO DP Posada!!!!!!! come on!

  919. tex's friend June 20th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    please no double play!

  920. tommyfusco June 20th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    yanks have the third best record in the league, chill

  921. daver June 20th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Nice single by Tex. Now Jorge do not GIDP like your buddy Derek.

  922. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Again SJ, just outright LYING again. I didn’t post that, get a clue. Look at the name on the post before you try to criticize someone baselessly again.

  923. James June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    This is a great way to use your star pitching prospect… pitching in games in which we are trailing and as Wang’s caddy.

  924. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    at least he can’t gidp

  925. brian June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Phil Hughes has def showed marked improvement this year….It’s going to be nice that he can just slot into pettitte’s spot next season…no need to go out and grab any more pitchers, Hughes will be ready

  926. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Boston Dave – OPPC
    June 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
    “Try Beckett. Although, prior to two years ago I would have said Schilling.”
    ————
    even Sox employees (to be fair, the ones that I know of) don’t like Beckett.

    He treats them all like garbage.

    Papelbon isn’t much better.
    *****
    Beckett doesn’t seem like a nice guy. And don’t even get me started on Papelbum…

  927. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    As long as Phil is in the pen, he may need to be used in late inning situations……and not when they are behind. That would mean he can’t get stretched out unless they send him to AAA for a few starts……He looks awfully good right now.

  928. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    what a great at bat!!!

  929. RS June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    “People are going going to be all over me, but could Yusssse be the BP guy ?”

    If anything, Hughes is just proving that it’s much easier to find success as a reliever than as a starter.

    For all the people who complain because Joba put up better numbers as a reliever, well, that’s what’s going to happen with ALL pitchers. We saw Wang dominate in short stints, and now we’re seeing it with Hughes.

  930. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    “yanks have the third best record in the league, chill”

    —————

    isn’t it amazing?

    you’d think they were in last place judging from the mushbrains in here.

  931. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    This is why I like Lindstrom.

  932. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    That terrible AB was all Jorge Posada’s fault!

    What? It was.

  933. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Chances of Cano not being 0-2 to start this at bat?

  934. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    oh ya,

    they also have the most comeback wins too

  935. miggs June 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Posada has looked like crap at the plate all night.

  936. Pel June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    that certainly blows
    marlins starter was lights out
    so was ours, DAMON!

  937. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Horrible

  938. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Damn it.

    Stupid Yankees.

  939. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Unbelievable. Yuck

  940. JT June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COMPLETE FAIL!!!!

  941. tex's friend June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    oh man thats rich.

  942. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    YAYYYYYYYYY robinson can end 2 games in 4 days with double plays!!!

    fu(king disgrace

  943. daver June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Enough with the GIDPs for crying out loud.

  944. R-Tek June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    I predict that Lindstrom will shut us down with his 100 MPH heat then Cashman will trade for him tomorrow.

  945. Patrick June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Cano GIDP to end the game again.

    Will anyone argue that was a good at-bat? Jeez.. look at some pitches will you Robbie?

    Awful game for the offense right there, really pathetic.

  946. Jason June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    wow. just wow.

  947. Pel June 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Cano with another game ending GIDP!

  948. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Oh that sucked

  949. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    so Posada has a good catching game and the bat goes cold??

    hmmm…maybe that is Cervie back there ;)

    I am just kidding, of course

  950. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    gotta take it tomorrow to win the series

  951. Blackdragon905 June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    horrible loss, no other way around it.

  952. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Oh well – the Yankees really didn’t deserve to win.

  953. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Worst loss of the year imo.

  954. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    i want to say unbelievable, but it actually IS believable because this team sucks

  955. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    oh wow – that sucked

  956. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    This guy has walked 19 guys in 26.1 IP, and Cano swings at the first pitch.

    This team has no clue, plain and simple.

    How can anyone deny that this team totally blew it tonight? There is no sugar coating to a game in which you dropped a routine fly ball and couldn’t get down a routine bunt.

    If it’s one night, that’s one thing. But this is a consistent inability to make fundamentally sound plays at key points in the game. It’s a lot more discouraging that they failed again to do something easy and fundamental than encouraging that Burnett pitched well.

    The inability to get the easy things done is a lot more concerning an issue than any walks the Yankees pitching staff issues.

  957. Doreen - Been to the New Stadium June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Well, I guess I was wrong.

  958. Anthony June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    awful execution. i think we are watching the low point of the season…wins that should have been against the nats and marlins turn into losses because of execution and poor defense.

  959. tex's friend June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    just because they have the 3rd best record doesn’t mean we should ignore the 4 rally killing double plays.

  960. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Can’t do much our OF defense cost us tonight.

    Josh Johnson to Leo Nunez to Matt Lindstrom = zzzzzzz…get’em tomorrow

  961. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Pete, remember a few days ago when you reported that Robbie was batting .430-something when swinging on the first pitch?

    He must read your blog, because he’s done nothing but swing at the first pitch since. What’s his average when doing so now, because I would venture to say it’s MARKEDLY lower at this point, because I don’t remember him being on base more than twice since the 4 for 4 night.

  962. Eights June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Well, I am out for the night.

    Another bad day for the offense, but not surprising. Hopefully our July resembles our May more than our June. One can hope.

  963. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    i almost wish johnson could of just thrown a complete game shutout….so tough knwing they had the game for the taking and could do nothing..rough feeling…thank goodness CC is on the mound tomorrow…take the series!

  964. miggs June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    And there it is.

    That’s a tough loss right there. Can’t tell this one doesn’t sting a little.

  965. Joe June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    I am getting sick of this lineup not producing.

  966. brian June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    If anything, Hughes is just proving that it’s much easier to find success as a reliever than as a starter….

    He’s looked much better as a starter just as well as a reliever…Outside of that baltimore start he has looked much much better than last season…

    I’m not basing anything on what hes done as a reliever…he’s a nice weapon at the moment..but theres no way the Yankees want him to be a reliever long term

  967. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Jeter cant bunt, Damon cant catch.

  968. Serf June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    I’m just happy that Andy Pettite was dealing yesterday, and Burnett was dealing today. That’s a big change recently. All we need is for Joba too add 3-4 mph on his fastball and for Wang to keep being Wang and we’re good.

  969. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    good thing tough losses still only count for 1 loss.

    Yanks still in the drivers seat for the playoffs (long way to go)…

    silver lining? AJ looked sharp. Coke and Hughes continued to pitch well.

    The Yanks success hinges on their pitching this season. In that dept., they scored points tonight.

  970. 86w183 June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Both Washington losses were far less than this one… not even close.

    Still two DP grounders in th elast two innings does not speak well. Time for a night cap…. seeya tomorrow

  971. daver June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Maybe Damon, Jeter, and Posada need 2 days off too.

  972. Terry from NH June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    3 back again!! This team loses games 2-1 with bad baseball fundamentals all the time. Imagine if they executed half the time what their record might be?

  973. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    GIDP by Jetes was back breaking, you needed to get the job done there. It was over after that.

  974. John June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    they managed to get 3 outs on 4 pitches without taking a ball

  975. m June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Arggh.

    What a frustrating game.

    Just got to come back and take the rubber match.

    I’ll go out on a limb and say the offense will perk up tomorrow, now that they got through the tough part of the rotation. ;)

  976. Frida K. June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Another pitiful effort.

  977. BBFan June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    As good as Jeter is, we lost this game due to Jeter’s failure to bunt then GIDP.

    Well, let us win tomorrow and win the series.

  978. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Prior to this week they won every game where they held the opponents to 3 runs or less. Now all of a sudden I think they have lost 3. Those are the ones that hurt

  979. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Cano hacks away. Not a surprise there.

    Rolling over on ground balls all night.

    Red Sox go another game up. Here come the Rays and Angels.

  980. BR June 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    If not for an error by Uggla the Yankees ground into 4 double plays tonight. That is a miserable showing by the offense

  981. GreenBeret7 June 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    I’ll look at the board later after the idiots are locked away for the night.

  982. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Someone is actually suggesting that Phil be converted permanently to a reliever? LOL

    The Yankees sucked in every way tonight except pitching – pathetic hitting and poor defense. I’m concentrating on the positive aspects – AJ and Phil.

    Damon? Thanks a lot.

  983. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Someone is actually suggesting that Phil be converted permanently to a reliever? LOL

    The Yankees sucked in every way tonight except pitching – pathetic hitting and poor defense. I’m concentrating on the positive aspects – AJ and Phil.

    Damon? Thanks a lot.

  984. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    “Worst loss of the year imo.”

    not even close imo…last game against the nats was much worse and the CC in fenway game too

  985. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    “I’m just happy that Andy Pettite was dealing yesterday, and Burnett was dealing today. That’s a big change recently. All we need is for Joba too add 3-4 mph on his fastball and for Wang to keep being Wang and we’re good.”

    ———–

    exactly.

    those are the things that will both get this team to the playoffs and win in the playoffs.

    as much as I hate to agree with trolls, it still would be nice if the Yanks could work on their bunting.

    That’s not really an in-season thing… they need to start in the minor leagues. Call up the Twins if they need help.

  986. Balboni's Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Here’s a thought-

    Time and time again, we’re forced to watch the washed up all stars get shut down by great pitching….meanwhile, teams like the red sox seem to have youngsters that thrive in these situations.

    Bring up AJax, let Damon ride the pine a little bit….he’s old, a defensive nightmare and let’s face it folks, The Yanks are not going to win anything with the guys we have right now, besides the wildcard.

    I don’t drink the kool-aid, I just know when its time to make a change.

    This is absolutely not the team that will bring home #27.

  987. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Enough with the pitiful effort crap. There is some good news out of this game-

    1) We pitched VERY well
    2) Burnett CAN pitch to Posada ;-)

  988. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    “Worst loss of the year imo.”

    don’t stop there. worst loss of the decade. No, make that the century. This is the game you’ll tell you’re great-great grandchildren about.

    June xx (fill in the blank) this day will go down in infamy. (until the next loss of course)

  989. Patrick June 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Tough loss but great pitching by the Yankees. I guess you can’t really expect to beat Josh Johnson, he’s one of the premiere pitchers in the NL. Still it’s tough because the offense had a huge shot in the 8th to score a run or two. Plus Damon’s error..ugh.

    Oh well, win tomorrow and you take 2 out of 3. With CC going we should have a good shot.

  990. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    “Cano hacks away. Not a surprise there”

    He bats over .400 w/ the first pitch, it was a strike too btw, can’t do nothing about that, Lindstrom isn’t some scrub.

  991. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    If you can’t hold these guys accountable when the opposing pitcher pitches well, then you can’t give them any credit either when the opposing pitcher is terrible and grooving every pitch.

    It goes both ways, and you guys are incredibly hypocritical when it comes to criticizing the Yankees.

    How about the fact that a guy who walks 6.50 per nine innings gets us out on 6 pitches in the 9th inning, with our brilliant #5 hitter hitting into a double play on the FIRST PITCH, not even giving him a chance to get himself in trouble?

    That’s just inexcusable, a terrible at bat in a key spot yet again from Cano. When is anyone going to hold these guys accountable for their consistent mental lapses?

  992. Tom June 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    We’re cheering for the Yankees from overseas every night. it’s 4 am right now – this is getting frustrating – just the way this team is going in the last few games.

    Maybe I take a day off or two just like Jeter should.

  993. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Hughes, heeding the call…

    Floundering against the Fish…

    A DP does Yanks in…

  994. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Too many good teams in the AL to lose games like this.

  995. Harley June 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Some game’s have a pivotal at bat, and this one was Jeter’s fail in the eighth. And coming after an at-bat where a player in a deep slump — Pete’s fave, A-Rod– simply refuses to swing at a pitch out of the strike zone, Jeter’s inability to recognize location, not once, but twice when trying to bunt balls out of the strike zone (the first time he heard it was in Little League. BUNT A STRIKE.) is sorta unforgivable. He takes a great opportunity — a 3-1 count if he lets those two low pitches go — and turns it into a rally killing double-play.

    Feh.

  996. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    goodnight to all the sane posters…

    Yanks can still win the series tomorrow.

    Sabathia vs Volstad

    Advantage: Yanks

  997. Pel June 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Yanks are looking like $hit. Plain and simple.

  998. JT June 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    The good news….

    1. Posada & AJ had a good outing
    2. Rivera, Bruney, Aceves, Coke, Hughes & Robertson are dealing

  999. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Good point Patrick-

    I would rather lose to the ace of the staff and one of the league’s best pitchers than the scrub making his 4th major league start with the ERA of 6 (this is a hypothetical scrub)

  1000. daver June 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Pena would have gotten a bunt down in the 8th…

  1001. Boston Dave - OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    “Too many good teams in the AL to lose games like this.”

    ———

    too many good posts in the blog to read posts like this

  1002. RS June 20th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Tough loss for Burnett, who only allowed 1 ER. The Yankees shot themselves in the foot with this game. You’d think with GGBG on 2nd w/no outs and a couple of HOF hitters up, the Yankees might find a way to tie the game, but that wasn’t the case tonight.

    How long till the Yankees learn their lesson that you can’t always rely on coming from behind? I’d say these past few losses where they just fell short are almost as painful as the comebacks were joyful.

    Enough of these tough losses and maybe the team will stop looking like they’re mailing in the game in the early innings. I don’t just mean tonight (I know Johnson is tough) but those games against the Nats and Nieve.

  1003. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Boston just got 2 hit last night. I don’t want to hear that Boston can hit great pitching all the time. They Yanks just gave this one away. Anytime you have first and 2nd with no outs and Tex on deck, you have to get the bunt down.

  1004. JT June 20th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    The bad news…

    1. The OF defense is a joke
    2. The situational hitting is a complete disaster

  1005. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Any loss is painful, but this isn’t quite so much because AJ and both Phil’s pitched very well. Hughes was looking really good at times as a starter – I don’t think his success lately should be pinned down to him being a temporary reliever….His K/BB is astounding recently…

  1006. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Any loss is painful, but this isn’t quite so much because AJ and both Phil’s pitched very well. Hughes was looking really good at times as a starter – I don’t think his success lately should be pinned down to him being a temporary reliever….His K/BB is astounding recently…

  1007. Cliff June 20th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    For all you fans that are about to jump off a bridge the defending champs just los 5 straight and 7 of their last 8.

    For all that replied to my comment that there idiotic comments on all yankees blogs, yes there are but they are much more prevelant here!

  1008. Yanks_Fan June 20th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    April Yanks

    nuff said

  1009. Erica - newly OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Ugh- I am getting ready for bed.

    Good night sane people.
    Doomsdayers- you can have your run of the place now :-)

  1010. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    “Bring up AJax, let Damon ride the pine a little bit….he’s old, a defensive nightmare and let’s face it folks, The Yanks are not going to win anything with the guys we have right now, besides the wildcard. ”

    Your not that bright are you ? Austin Jackson is not coming up until Sept. He’ll be ready to be a very productive 4th or 5th OF by that time. Johnny Damon is having an immense yr. it’s not his fault he can’t be the DH for this team, he knows his days are dwindling and still comes through more times than not, if the Yankees have RISP I’ll go as far as saying he’s the guy you want up for this team.

  1011. John June 20th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    “1. The OF defense is a joke
    2. The situational hitting is a complete disaster”

    that is about a fourth of baseball right there that the yanks are missing

  1012. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Matt, I am one of the most negative MFers on the planet, and I willingly admit to it.

    But please. Dude. Shut up.

    I understand your frustration, and your points, sometimes, aren’t invalid. But you present them like a rabid animal, as if you’re actively attacking anyone who will listen to you.

    THAT’S why no one wants to listen to you around here. Your attitude in presenting your opinion is just…distasteful. Lighten up a little bit. They ran in to a really good pitcher, and didn’t take advantage of the chances they had. It happens to EVERY team in EVERY game. I’d say most teams get a dozen or so chances to do something every night. Sometimes a team takes advantage of all of them, but most time, a pitcher does his job and they don’t score.

    We had MAYBE four chances tonight. We took advantage of one of them. Johnson just didn’t give us many chances to score, and we didn’t. Yes, Jeter’s DP was a killer. Yes, Johnny’s losing of the ball was brutal. It happens to all teams. Not any more excusable, but it happens.

    Bottom line…seriously…chill out. Losses happen, and it sucks, but you can’t attack any and everything just because you’re pissed. It makes people really, REALLY irritated.

  1013. Serf June 20th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    80% of the people posting right now aren’t seeing how well the Yankees are pitching as of late. The bullpen has been doing fantastic and we weren’t saying those things in April/Early May. Every starter in the last couple of games have had quality outings. What isn’t working right now is the offense, but that’s probably the easiest problem to solve. Have you seen the lineup? Things like this can be fixed pretty quickly and I’m sure it will.

  1014. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    “Lindstrom isn’t some scrub.”

    Brandon,

    I know you think every guy who throws hard is great, but Lindstrom is known for being wild. He’s got a 5.40 ERA. That’s bad for any reliever, but for a closer that’s terrible.

    As for Cano, you have to take the good with the bad. He won’t walk, so he’s going to go up there hacking. He won’t take pitches.

  1015. clapton100 June 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Whatever the little things are that win contested games, unless they are hitting home runs, the Yankees usually don’t do them

    I’ll go back to this bromide-the older guys on the team are past ther peak (not completely finished, just past their peak) and the younger guys are not proven winners

    Not a great formula

    Doesn’t mean its time to jump off the bridge, but here’s enough data out there to say this is a team that will have trouble winning when they don’t hit home runs because their situational play is poor

  1016. vtred June 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    We’re seeing the other side of the “rally” equation— the majority of the time, you don’t come back.

  1017. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. ROBINSON CANO IS NOT A NUMBER FIVE HITTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HE’S USELESS WHEN MEN ARE ON BASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BTW, this truly is the most overrated offense in baseball. And they can’t bunt to save their lives.

  1018. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Oh that really sucked. We saw some great pitching from the Yankees and Josh Johnson deserves mucho kudos also.

    Need to win tomorrow and take the series. All I care about is winning series. If this team can do that-all will be well

  1019. Balboni's Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    This team will not win for one reason alone:

    reliance on the homerun ball.

    They do not know how to manufacture runs, period.

  1020. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    It sucks that AJ got the loss that he didn’t deserve…..Very happy for him, though, about his performance and I’m looking forward to hearing his post-game comments

  1021. JJ June 20th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    We’re wasting these well pitched games and the awesome work of our bullpen in losses…

  1022. Serf June 20th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Another positive thing is that the Yankees are in the Top 5 for most walks allowed. Lately, I haven’t seen many people getting walked and that’s whats been hurting the team the most.

  1023. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    “Pena would have gotten a bunt down in the 8th…”

    Yes he would have, but how many calls you think talk radio recieves tomorrow for GI Joe subing Jetes for El Nino ? and god forbid he makes an out, what then ? com’on man.

  1024. tampayank June 20th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    salsa concert after the game…big fiesta in miami

    this is the yanks we see in the playoffs, face good starting pitcher, do nothing and when the opportunity comes w/ RISP in the late innings…choke…that’s been the story..hopefully the Yanks can learn to win w/o hitting HRs in the Bronx bandbox

  1025. BR June 20th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    I love how people assume we will win tomorrow and take 2/3 so its ok. How did that work out against the Nationals?

  1026. Don 42 June 20th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Morale victories are for losers… all losses are the same.

  1027. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    The baseball world is a crowded over populated place…

    jump bridge jumpers jump!!

    (don’t worry GB will catch you!….. SPLAT…. )

  1028. Losers June 20th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Guys stop stop

    It is okay the Yankees only fell one more game behind Boston

  1029. Nich in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Do not accept it
    These Yankees have some chutzpah
    hold them to account

  1030. Joe June 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    “I love how people assume we will win tomorrow and take 2/3 so its ok. How did that work out against the Nationals?”

    Yep, exactly. It’s not like this offense is clicking on all cylinders. Wouldn’t be surprised if we lose another low scoring game tomorrow.

  1031. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    These guys play a game and make millions of dollars to do so. They make at least ten times more what any high earning, “normal” american will make any year of their life. If they refuse to earn their ridiculously over-bloated salary, they deserve to be booed just as much as a “normal” american deserves to be fired.

    These guys are athletes making the kind of salary that should only be reserved for world changing inventors and the President of the United States. What a sad world we live in.

    As fans paying ridiculous prices to see games and seeing these guys who have contributed so little to the world make so much money, we have more than the right to ride them when they don’t do the job.

  1032. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    The baseball world is a crowded over populated place…

    jump bridge jumpers jump!!

    (don’t worry GB will catch you!….. SPLAT…. )

    =============================

    :lol:

  1033. Balboni's Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Your not that bright are you ? Austin Jackson is not coming up until Sept. He’ll be ready to be a very productive 4th or 5th OF by that time. Johnny Damon is having an immense yr. it’s not his fault he can’t be the DH for this team, he knows his days are dwindling and still comes through more times than not, if the Yankees have RISP I’ll go as far as saying he’s the guy you want up for this team.

    ———-

    I have forgotten more baseball than you’ll know pal.

    This is a wildcard team, only, as is. Cervelli was a .190 batter in AA.

    Time for fresh blood. If you could predict success, you wouldn’t be on the lohud blog.

  1034. RC 16 June 20th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    The team is just unable to get the big hit.

    We’re in a funk right now. Who knows when we will snap out of it?

  1035. RS June 20th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    I don’t care what anyone says, the Yankees offense NEEDS to score more runs.

    Losing a 3-0, 2-1 type game 3 out of 4 days to the Nationals and Marlins is unacceptable.

    The Yankees have held opponents to 3 runs or less in five straight games, but are just 2-3 in that stretch.

  1036. Serf June 20th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    The only thing I like about the complaining here is that it actually happens in our home games. If we suck we let our team know it. We don’t cheer someone on for a fly out like the Red Sox have been doing to david ortiz. Motivation for failure? I don’t think so.

  1037. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    “I know you think every guy who throws hard is great, but Lindstrom is known for being wild. He’s got a 5.40 ERA. That’s bad for any reliever, but for a closer that’s terrible.”

    He had a bad couple of stretches, he’s been putting it together lately, he’s not a CL, he can SU w/ the best of them but he’s not a CL. If Nunez were a CL he’d go through the same.

  1038. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    This is a BIG day for me.

    I am wearing BIG BOY underpants today. Mommy is so proud of me.

  1039. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    “Morale victories are for losers… all losses are the same.”

    Yes yes we know. Josh Johnson can shut any lineup down, ANY.

  1040. Steve B June 20th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    “The Yankees have held opponents to 3 runs or less in five straight games, but are just 2-3 in that stretch.”

    Believe the Yankees were 22-0 when holding their opponents to three runs or less til this week.

  1041. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Exactly. You can’t assume they will win with CC Sabathia on the mound either, you have to go out there and GET THE JOB DONE.

    If I told you last night that Burnett would pitch 6.1 IP 1 ER, would you think they would win the game? You would probably say yes. But despite what would seemingly be a good performance, they didn’t execute, and lost the game.

    If the offense goes out there and does to Volstad what they did to Stammen, then the advantage is gone in a heartbeat. Advantage in baseball means absolutely nothing, you have to win the game and stop taking things for granted.

    Could anyone tell me that losing 2/3 to the Nationals was acceptable? No way. Would you say that losing 2/3 to the Marlins with winning the first game and throwing Burnett and Sabathia out there would be acceptable and a mental victory? No way.

    At some point, you have to win the games, you can’t keep talking about “mental victories” and “rock bottom” in the middle of JUNE.

  1042. Y 27 June 20th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    For an offense as potent as ours, they fail to show up so many times this season.

    Just maddeningly inconsistent.

  1043. Nich in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    unacceptable
    it’s very bad on LoHud
    and worse on Twitter

  1044. Pat M. June 20th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Tough loss…..AJ Barnett is rounding into form though…..The failure to execute the sac bunt in the 8th was as the game in essence….Bounce back tomorrow and take the series and then on to Atlanta……Matt, at times you do bring up some valid points, however it maybe the byproduct of thinking before hitting the keyboard….Mo’s flatcutter is just a numb nut though

  1045. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    I said before – I would give up a game if it meant AJ pitching well. I think a win, but AJ pitching badly, would not have made me feel good. Let me clarify – I only think that IF I was given a choice between AJ pitching well/losing and pitching badly/winning. The Yankees had a chance to still win with AJ pitching well and they failed – their flaws, in all their glory, showed up tonight. Look out – but are they even still ahead in the WC hunt now?

  1046. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    *Nich* in SF – you traded in a strikeout, for a hit. Posers are getting lazy I see.

  1047. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 20th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Burnett battled, brave…

    Blistering breaking ball, blaze…

    Three tenors telling…

  1048. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    “I have forgotten more baseball than you’ll know pal.”

    It shows :lol:

    “This is a wildcard team, only, as is. Cervelli was a .190 batter in AA.”

    What’s your point here ?

    “Time for fresh blood. If you could predict success, you wouldn’t be on the lohud blog.”

    his own hitting coach saids he’s not ready, Austin Jackson is not ready, come to grips w/ it, he’ll get 300 – 400 ABs in AAA and then come up in Sept. as a 4th-5th OF. It’s better for him, lesser scouting reports and lesser expectations.

  1049. BR June 20th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Even if they win tomorrow, which is very far from a guarentee with how bad this offense has been, they will have gone 3-3 against the Nationals and Marlins.

    Right now they are 2-3 against the Nationals and Marlins.

    2-3 against 2 of the worst teams in baseball. No one should be defending the Yankees in any way. No matter what, that is inexcusable

  1050. Donnie - Will Meet Dan Uggla Under the O'Neill Banner June 20th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Matt,

    No one is saying you can’t ride them. But there are much better ways to do it.

    “GOD, what was Cano doing? That’s a guy you HAVE to wait out! He REALLY swings on the first pitch too much. It’s almost as if he’s become reliant on it, and it’s hurting the team. We’ll never know what could have happened there if he’d taken a couple pitches.”

    See, THAT is what reasonable people say. You, on the other hand…

    “Cano should be fired! He’s making too much money! G.D. him! It’s pathetic! He’s got no business batting fifth! I hate him!”

    Sure, maybe not word for word, but that’s the tenor of your messages. Just…tone it down a bit. Try using your words.

    Also, your argument about them making so much money is absurd. If you don’t like the salaries they make, stop buying merch, stop going to games, and stop watching pro sports. They make as much money as they do because it’s what the market bears, and the market is set by supply and demand. We set their salaries by paying to see them play and wearing their jerseys. If you don’t like it, stop watching professional sports. That’s the only way it’s going to change.

  1051. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Burnett battled, brave…

    Blistering breaking ball, blaze…

    Three tenors telling…

    Jeter sux

  1052. TD123 June 20th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Don’t know why people are so upset about this loss.

    We are an inconstant team. Basically, this team is like one big AJ Burnett— all the talent in the world with mediocre results and inconsistency from one day to the next.

    These are not the mid 90s Yankees anymore. This is a good, not great team that is extremely talented but very inconsistent. The sooner you realize that, the better off you will be. Stop expecting miracles.

  1053. stuart June 20th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    dear josh beckett, you are very good at me! love, baseball

  1054. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    volstads last 7 games=6.59 era
    volstads last 2 games=13.5 era

    with cc pitching = gotta win

  1055. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    good job Dynasty…. you are the haiku dude.

    For whom the cowbell tolls, it tolls for thee.

  1056. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Sorry, DT, but it is me I had to re-enter my info and typo-ed. I accidentally dropped the k from An H.

  1057. pat June 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Jays/ Nats in extras for second night in a row. The Yankees created a monster.

  1058. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Enjoy Robinson Cano, folks! The laziest player in baseball will continue to break your hearts with pathetic AB’s in the biggest spots.

    BTW, how did Boston’s ACE Josh Beckett do tonight??\

    Wild Card or bust for NY

  1059. Mark DET June 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    So Betsy – would you accept a loss tomorrow if CC pitched well? Or what if Joba pitched a great game in Atlanta?

    Or are morale victories only reserved for Hughes and Burnett?

  1060. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    The Nats aren’t going to beat the Jays again are they :?

  1061. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    *for* An H.

    A typo while correcting a typo?

    That’s GB territory, I need to go home. The heat is brutal here.

  1062. Rory June 20th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Who the hell are we, the Royals?

    It’s Ok if we lose as long as someone does well in a losing effort?

    Get out of here with that defeatist attitude. No loss is good.

  1063. BR June 20th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Morale victories do not mean anything in the AL East. Only wins do and if this team continues to lose games to the worst teams in baseball it is going to come back to haunt them in a big way come September

  1064. BR June 20th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Morale victories do not mean anything in the AL East. Only wins do and if this team continues to lose games to the worst teams in baseball it is going to come back to haunt them in a big way come September

  1065. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    “Enjoy Robinson Cano, folks! The laziest player in baseball will continue to break your hearts with pathetic AB’s in the biggest spots.”

    We will, glad he’s 26 too, soon will become a stone cold killer. ;)

    “BTW, how did Boston’s ACE Josh Beckett do tonight??\”

    Remember his contract is coming up soon, not saying anything :lol:

  1066. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    So..regarding Youuuuse. Pretty fun to watch him pitch this season

  1067. vb03 June 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    So much for a bounceback sweep after being humiliated by the Nationals.

  1068. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Here comes AJ on YES

  1069. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Like they used to say about us back in the day:

    We should buried them while they were injured and down.

    Boston has been decimated by injuries just as much as us, and we failed to bury them while we had the chance. Keep in mind that our pitching was still healthy despite the injuries to position players. We gave away at least 4/8 games against them, and have given away at least 5 more games like tonight.

    If they win even HALF of those games, they are up by 7 games over the Red Sox right now. Let that sink in for a second.

    We are really going to regret these kinds of games when Boston starts going on a run like they have lately

  1070. Balboni's Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    My point is AJax in his head is ready and will likely be a much better fit in this club than Damon is.

    Damon is more cold than hot, he’s old, he’s a tired act, we have many of these tired acts.

    Until you get the right mix of youth and veteran in the lineup on a daily basis, you get a team that can’t beat the Red Sox, loses series to the worst team in baseball.

    They most certainly are built to win the wild card, but they are not built to win #27. If I’m wrong, call me out on it in October.

  1071. Sevrx June 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Even during AJ’s “run” last year, he had a 3.86 ERA in July and a 4.43 ERA in August. His 2nd half numbers were largely inflated by an excellent September (1.42 ERA). And we all know how meaningful September numbers are….

    Those expecting him to go on some crazy run are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Nothing he has done in his career indicates he can dominate for an extended period of time. Again, he had one good month last year and that was considered the best stretch of his career.

  1072. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    AJ blaming his pitch to Uggla…..

  1073. vb03 June 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    “Wild Card or bust for NY”

    At least this one is right.

  1074. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Finally you see the double play’s are killing the Yankees.
    Swisher
    Damon.
    Jeter- *captain double play*
    Posada

    So much for Aj showing THE MARLIN’S!!!

    Another loss,who was the pitcher? hum……
    back to 3 behind THE NORM

    Let’s see what excuse this time,the Park,tired,catcher,doesn’t matter,heard them all.

    Let’s see what the big Fat Ace does tomorrow.

  1075. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    The only thing that haunts this team is pressure, thier attitude this yr. is leave that game where it is come out and win tomorrow. Morale my a.. let me give you a bat vs a SP like Josh Johnson.

  1076. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Wow, Kim trying to get AJ to blame Damon and he won’t do it – said he’s pitched here before, balls get lost……..he blames the pitch to Uggla. He’s feeling good

  1077. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Wow, Kim trying to get AJ to blame Damon and he won’t do it – said he’s pitched here before, balls get lost……..he blames the pitch to Uggla. He’s feeling good

  1078. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    I said before – I would give up a game if it meant AJ pitching well. I think a win, but AJ pitching badly, would not have made me feel good. Let me clarify – I only think that IF I was given a choice between AJ pitching well/losing and pitching badly/winning. The Yankees had a chance to still win with AJ pitching well and they failed – their flaws, in all their glory, showed up tonight. Look out – but are they even still ahead in the WC hunt now?

    =================================

    Yeah, I’ll always take the win.
    Nice that AJ(and Coke and Youuuse) pitched well, great to see. But I still would rather have a win. :lol:

    Let’s just hope they can win tomorrow and take the series

  1079. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    AJ -said he tapped Jorge on the chest because he realizes that people have been all over him..said he called an exceptional game.

    Good stuff from AJ

  1080. vb03 June 20th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    I think the Yankees are in good position to take the Wild Card. The AL Central and West doesn’t seem to be that talented this year.

    Just have to hold off Tampa and take that 4th playoff spot.

  1081. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) June 20th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    “A typo while correcting a typo?
    That’s GB territory, I need to go home. The heat is brutal here.”

    AH… it is you. the heat does play tricks. Alibi Honored.

  1082. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    “My point is AJax in his head is ready and will likely be a much better fit in this club than Damon is.”

    No it isn’t.

    “Damon is more cold than hot, he’s old, he’s a tired act, we have many of these tired acts.”

    And his bat is 50 times better than Jackson is right now.

    “Until you get the right mix of youth and veteran in the lineup on a daily basis, you get a team that can’t beat the Red Sox, loses series to the worst team in baseball.”

    this is why you need patience.

    “They most certainly are built to win the wild card, but they are not built to win #27. If I’m wrong, call me out on it in October.”

    I’ll remember to do so, don’t hide. ;)

  1083. Rishi June 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter
    June 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
    Finally you see the double play’s are killing the Yankees.
    Swisher
    Damon.
    Jeter- captain double play
    Posada

    So much for Aj showing THE MARLIN’S!!!

    Another loss,who was the pitcher? hum……
    back to 3 behind THE NORM

    Let’s see what excuse this time,the Park,tired,catcher,doesn’t matter,heard them all.

    Let’s see what the big Fat Ace does tomorrow.

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    You must really have no life to be posting on a Yankee blog after a Red Sox win…go convene with your own kind.

    I don’t usually like to feed the trolls, but you are just too much.

    How about this, the next time the Red Sox lose, you show up here and take the garbage you are dishing out now…last night didn’t look too good for your team, did it?

  1084. Clint June 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    The Anaheim Angels are ONE gave behind us in the loss for the Wild Card. Remarkable considering all the injuries/misfortune they have had.

    People are acting like we’re 10 games ahead and have our playoff spot locked up.

    The Mets had the 2nd best record in the NL at this time last year. The Dodgers were in 3rd place. The Phillies were in 3rd place.

    Using standings in June is meaningless. We could lead the wild card now and be 3 games back next week.

  1085. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    I’m tired of people making fun of me! I can post any way I want to here. Just so you know when the Yankees tie the game or take the lead I get nervous so I wet myself and mommy has to change me. That’s why I disappear. When the Red Sox are losing games I get scared and mommy has to hold me in her lap. That’s why I disappear.

    Last night when the Yankees won and the Red Sox lost it was the worst. I had to have my diaper changed, mommy hold me in her lap, and my binky dipped in Jack Daniels, drink of the cheating 2004 Red Sox.

    Just so you know I will always be here if the Yankees lose and the Red Sox win. That’s when mommy can get her house work done without me bothering her. Me loves mommy!

  1086. YankeeRay June 20th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Was 94 at game time today in So Fl. Take a good last look at CC at 5 tomorrow because he won’t look the same after that game as he will drop 25 pounds in the afternoon heat here.
    It was brutal today as I had a 3 hour practice for my sons all star team and we barely made it through.

  1087. YankeeRay June 20th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Was 94 at game time today in So Fl. Take a good last look at CC at 5 tomorrow because he won’t look the same after that game as he will drop 25 pounds in the afternoon heat here.
    It was brutal today as I had a 3 hour practice for my sons all star team and we barely made it through.

  1088. Nick in SF in Dallas June 20th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Acceptable? Hardly!

  1089. Zolio June 20th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    The only thing that haunts this team is pressure, thier attitude this yr. is leave that game where it is come out and win tomorrow. Morale my a.. let me give you a bat vs a SP like Josh Johnson.

    ————————————–

    Agree 100% Brandon

  1090. rconn23 June 20th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    The Yankees lost because of bad fundamental baseball tonight.

    If it’s runners on first and second with no outs early in the game, Jeter swings away.

    In the eighth inning of a 2-1 game he should bunt. He couldn’t get it down and compounds it by rolling over on another ground ball for the DP.

    Damon of course cost a run by butchering another ball.

    Despite Johnson’s dominance, that’s a game the Yankees should have won. They certainly should have tied it.

    All that being said, Burnett pitched well and the bullpen is really rounding into shape.

    Bruney, Aceves, Coke, Robertson, Rivera along with Hughes is pretty formidable. Robertson just needs to cut down on the walks and he will be dominant. His numbers are already sparkling.

    I’m not so sure they need to drop a big-time prospect to get Huston Street.

  1091. Matt June 20th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    It’s nice to sugar coat it and say that it’s ok to lose if key players start performing, but let’s be realistic.

    How many games can they just outright give away this year and still be competitive?

    They’re incredibly lucky right now, there’s no other way of putting it. They have given away enough games to be up over 10 games in the standings over Boston right now, yet the Red Sox have not run away with it and we’ve somehow found ways to win games we had no right to win.

    But how long do you think that is going to last? Boston is starting to become whole again as guys return from injuries. Our magic is wearing off and we are not coming back as often to win games, and are falling short a lot more. How many games are we going to want back of those that we gave away?

    Tonight we had 1st and 2nd, no outs, down 1 run, with our captain at the plate. All he had to do was lay down a simple bunt with the infield playing halfway and a guy throwing him low changeups- a good pitch to bunt. Yet, he couldn’t get the bunt down, then hit into a DP that pretty much sealed the deal.

    This team has a problem of consistently failing to get the job done in the toughest spots. I’d be concerned about that. It’s not the hard stuff, it’s the easy stuff, but if you can’t get the easy stuff done, you’re still in just as much trouble. They have trouble scratching out runs against tough pitchers, and trouble getting fundamentally sound plays done.

    This team needs to start playing a better brand of baseball, because they won’t stay where they are if they keep making so many mental mistakes in games. Even when they were coming back to win, they were having to come back because of mistakes and bad play earlier in games. When that magic wears off, you lose those games, as we saw happen with the Nationals series.

  1092. vb03 June 20th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    The Yankees just have to beat the Angels and the Rays in their matchups and put a stranglehold on the WC.

    Even with their flaws, this is a team that can win the WC. Both the Rays and the Angels have a lot more issues than the Yanks.

  1093. Tom June 20th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Dropped balls, errors, lack of hits with RISP, double plays

    The sloppy baseball is back and it is not going away it looks like

    I guess they played crisp for 3 weeks and filled their quota for the year

  1094. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    “Mo’sflatcutter
    June 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
    I’m tired of people making fun of me! I can post any way I want to here.”

    Then we will continue to make fun of you :lol:

  1095. vb03 June 20th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    “Just so you know I will always be here if the Yankees lose and the Red Sox win. That’s when mommy can get her house work done without me bothering her. Me loves mommy!”

    Prototypical troll admitting to being a prototypical troll. Not bad.

  1096. Grey 44 June 20th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    lol this place is hilarious.

    This loss means nothing because Burnett pitched well? Because Hughes threw a scoreless inning?

    I can understand not overreacting to losses, but you people are really reaching now. Trying to sugarcoat losses is pretty lame.

  1097. lil' m June 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Maybe I was watching another game, but Josh Johnson was lights out, plain and simple. IMHO any team in baseball would have had a very tough time scoring anything against him tonight. AJ was great too, which bodes very well for the team. The fly ball lost in the lights in center was the difference maker that the Yankees weren’t quite able to overcome. Neither they, nor any other team, including the much feared and loathed Red Sox, is always going prevail against someone pitching as well as Johnson or win coming from behind every single time. Sometimes they’re just going to lose even when they play well. The degree of perfectionism in some of the posts suggests that realism and perspective may no longer play any significant part in fans’ understanding of events on the field. One can only imagine how the 89 win 2000 Yankees would have survived the withering gaze of this blogosphere.

    As to Posada: Calling a great game AND gunning ‘em down on the basepaths. Who knew lol?

  1098. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Mo’sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    I’m tired of people making fun of me! I can post any way I want to here. Just so you know when the Yankees tie the game or take the lead I get nervous so I wet myself and mommy has to change me. That’s why I disappear. When the Red Sox are losing games I get scared and mommy has to hold me in her lap. That’s why I disappear.

    =====================================

    You need to disappear more often

  1099. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    “I’m not so sure they need to drop a big-time prospect to get Huston Street.”

    Colorado’s not trading him unless it’s a big piece. They are in the playoff race.

  1100. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    The Cards had *Carpenter today,you knew they would win* .The RS had *Beckett,you knew they would win* .On any given day,the *Yankees pitcher’s are a question mark* ,how frustrating.

  1101. Bronx 77 June 20th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Damon is a hideous outfielder. Do not re-sign him next year under any circumstances.

    You want to build a team around pitching and defense, you can’t use the field to play 6-7 DHs.

  1102. Steve B June 20th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Strange AJ stat.

    He’s pitched 14 games. In six of them the Yankees have scored 3 or less (they won 1). In his other eight, they’ve scored 7 or more (they lost 1). They haven’t scored 4,5 or 6 runs in any of his starts.

    This is where run support, which AJ technically gets more of than any other Yankees starter, can be a bit misleading.

  1103. Balboni's Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    All of you fans that are happy with “winning the wildcard”, kudos to you for your loving a team that is miles ahead of every other organization in salary and accepting this as an acceptable return on investment.

    I do not accept this. I would rather be in last place with the 23rd highest payroll than win the wildcard with the highest payroll, by far, in the league.

    But hey, that’s me.

  1104. kill.schill(ing) June 20th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Why didn’t Girardi pinch-run Ramiro Pena for Teixiera in the 9th? I don’t know whether it would have averted the DP, but at least, it’s a prophylactic against it.

    What’s more, Pena offers them the possibility of stealing a base.

  1105. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    “I can understand not overreacting to losses, but you people are really reaching now. Trying to sugarcoat losses is pretty lame.”

    Unless you’ve gone out there and gone against a dominant starter you’ve never seen before and actually suceeded then and only then will I agree w/ this.

  1106. vb03 June 20th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    “All of you fans that are happy with “winning the wildcard”, kudos to you for your loving a team that is miles ahead of every other organization in salary and accepting this as an acceptable return on investment.

    I do not accept this. I would rather be in last place with the 23rd highest payroll than win the wildcard with the highest payroll, by far, in the league.

    But hey, that’s me.”

    I’d rather see the Yankees in the playoffs than the alternative. Wild Card or whatever.

    But hey, that’s me.

  1107. Thomo June 20th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Peter captured it perfectly – “heck of a game here”. Good pitching shuts down hitting. Both guys pitched well enough to win. Their guy pitched a bit better than our guy. Tomorrow is another day and your number one guy is up – things are looking up already!

  1108. V Torch June 20th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    The team has no idea how to execute fundamentals.

    Showed tonight, and showed all season. Games like tonight will be pretty common. When you rely on the HR and have no idea what to do with men on base, you lose close games. Good pitchers don’t give up HRs.

  1109. kill.schill(ing) June 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    The Yankees can sign Damon if they can’t find a better replacement for Matsui. Matsui is an albatross hanging around this team’s neck. He can’t play a position and he’s half the hitter the Yankees signed in 2002. He’s amounts to a waste of a roster spot.

    If the Yankees can upgrade with a DH bat at the trade deadline that won’t cost much, they should.

    Evidently, Mothra not inhabits the Bronx.

  1110. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    kill.schill(ing), you do realize they tie, they lose Tex’s bat and glove for the late innings. Unless this is a walkoff situtation you don’t PR w/ 1 out.

  1111. Dave June 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    We all know that when the offense comes back to life, the bullpen will start to implode or the starters will go into a funk again.

    This team just can’t have all 3 phases clicking at the same time. They look really bad when it is the offense that is in a funk because they have no idea how to manufacture runs or execute fundamentals.

  1112. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    “The Cards had Carpenter today,you knew they would win .The RS had Beckett,you knew they would win .On any given day,the Yankees pitcher’s are a question mark ,how frustrating.”

    That wasn’t me. That was someone pretending to be me. I just want to be your friend. I say dumb things to get attention. Nobody at school likes me because I’m fat and stupid. Mommy said since it’s the weekend I can stay up until 11.

    Anyone want to talk about how bad Dice-K sucks this season? Boy I need smelling salts when he pitches.

  1113. Giuseppe Franco June 20th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Balboni’s Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    All of you fans that are happy with “winning the wildcard”, kudos to you for your loving a team that is miles ahead of every other organization in salary and accepting this as an acceptable return on investment.

    I do not accept this. I would rather be in last place with the 23rd highest payroll than win the wildcard with the highest payroll, by far, in the league.

    But hey, that’s me.

    ————————

    Then go root for the last place team with the 23rd highest payroll in the league and stop pretending you’re a Yankee fan.

    Nobody will miss you. I can assure you of that.

  1114. haiku-man June 20th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    You need more than a diaper,dude seriously.

    Sounds like an *Oedipus Complex*

    I hope your dad is ok.

  1115. Balboni's Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Then go root for the last place team with the 23rd highest payroll in the league and stop pretending you’re a Yankee fan.
    Nobody will miss you. I can assure you of that.

    I’m just about their buddy!

  1116. Doc June 20th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Johnson-Nunez/Meyer-Lindstrom are no joke. If you follow baseball, you know that.

    We just can’t hit good pitchers/pitching. When is the last time we won a crisp, close game against the other team’s ace? And aside from Santana, have we hit a good pitcher all year?

    Doesn’t bode well when we make the playoffs and they are trying to hit 800 foot HRs off of Verlander, Jackson, Beckett, Lester, Lackey, Saunders, Weaver etc,

  1117. Balboni's Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    *there*

  1118. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    *I’M TALKING TO YOU!*

    *please answer me!*

    Really I want to talk about how terrible Dice-K is. I’m embarrassed by him. And what do you think is up with Pedroia? You think his brother’s pedophile charges are getting to him? He can’t even hit the ball anymore!

    *I’M TALKING TO YOU!!!!!*

  1119. BR June 20th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Wow things certainly have changed since 2004. What happened to the days of making fun of the Red Sox because that was the only way they could get into the playoffs?

  1120. Steve B June 20th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    “I’d rather see the Yankees in the playoffs than the alternative. Wild Card or whatever.”

    Amen. All about making the tournament. How you get there is inconsequential.

  1121. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    this yankee team is not far off…1 little thing here and there and they can be dominant…i got loads of faith in them

  1122. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Balboni’s Revenge, it’s “there” not “thier” :?

    I do got to admit this fanbase has become extremely whiney and sensitive. This isn’t passion, this is more whining like Mets fans or Philly fans. :?

    Anyone know how many games we were out this time last yr. to put things into perspective ?

  1123. Carl June 20th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Nats walk off.

  1124. m June 20th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Only got one thing to say after such a disappointing loss…

    Learn the difference between moral and morale!

  1125. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    “Doesn’t bode well when we make the playoffs and they are trying to hit 800 foot HRs off of Verlander, Jackson, Beckett, Lester, Lackey, Saunders, Weaver etc,”

    You just explained perfectly why Joba needs to succeed as a SP and why the starting rotation is more important than the BP.

  1126. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    I would prefer to win the division, but I’ll take getting in as the WC. NO fan of their team would ever say they prefer last place to being in the playoffs through the back door (which IS how I look at the wild card).

    The thing that disappoints me is that even if the Yankees make the playoffs, they aren’t as good as we thought they might be. That’s for another time, though.

  1127. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    lol willy harris hit a walk off for the nats…4 in a row!! they are on fire!

  1128. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    What’s going on w/ the Nats :?

  1129. Homer June 20th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Nats win again… the Yankees have created a monster.

    And the rest of the AL is destroying the Phillies, while we barely took a game from them.

  1130. Giuseppe Franco June 20th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Balboni’s Revenge June 20th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    I’m just about their buddy!

    ———————–

    Then go. You’re either a fair weather fan or not a Yankee fan at all.

    Real fans don’t contemplate jumping ship whether times are good or bad. Real fans bleed Yankee pinstripes no matter how they are playing.

    Frustration is one thing. Threatening to jump ship is something completely different.

    You’re not a fan of this team. Go root for someone else.

  1131. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Break up the Nats, lol. Good for them – I don’t hate them.

  1132. RalphieD (OPPC all day) June 20th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    “Anyone know how many games we were out this time last yr. to put things into perspective ?”

    5 but it would get worse soon

  1133. Bill June 20th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Boston will knock the Nats back down to earth. They play them this week.

  1134. STX 99 June 20th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    We lead the Wild Card by 1 game… not exactly having it in the bag.

    The Angels are probably going to win that division though, so it is Texas/Tampa we’ll be battling with for the WC.

  1135. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    I do got to admit this fanbase has become extremely whiney and sensitive. This isn’t passion, this is more whining like Mets fans or Philly fans. :?

    Anyone know how many games we were out this time last yr. to put things into perspective ?

    ============================

    People really are whiney. It’s annoying

    On June 20th we were:

    2008: 40-34 3rd place, 5 games behind Boston (No playoffs)
    2007: 35-34 2nd place, 10 games behind Boston (wild card)
    2006: 39-30 2nd place, 2 games behind Boston (won AL East)

    Chill and see what happens people. Lotta baseball left

  1136. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    I’ll tell you what the Nats should pick up Jose Veras from us. I don’t think they are going to suck forever. They may be the RAys of the NL sooner than later.

  1137. Cliff June 20th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    SO the defending champs are 1-7 on a homestand to the AL East.

    If the Yanks went 1-7 on homestand would there be anyone left to comment on this blog?

    A little perspective folks. If the season ended today the Yanks are in the playoffs.

  1138. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    The Nationals on a winning streak. You know what-good for them

  1139. Mike June 20th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Texas/Angels get to play almost 40 games against the Mariners/Athletics

    We have to play the AL East. While we may be a better team than LA or Texas, the standings may not reflect it.

  1140. Dave June 20th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Philly plays in the NL… they can recover fine. We don’t have it as easy

  1141. Betsy June 20th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    On a positive note, the Yankees have two tremendously promising young pitchers who will be big winners for many years. For all my issues with Phil in the pen, he’s getting big time major leaguers out and he’s gaining in confidence with every outing. Of course at some point he will have a bad game – it will be interesting to see if he can bounce back from that as all relievers have to have thick skins. In any case, Joba and Phil will be in the rotation for years to come – I feel good about that.

  1142. a universal remote June 20th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    A lot can change in the next few months. It’s only June.

  1143. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    I hope people realize w/o beating Boston we once lead this division this month by 3 or 4 games. One good week that’s all it takes.

  1144. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Yeah, “heck of a game here”.

    “Heck of a game” when the team captain doesn’t realize he can pull the bat back and not attempt the bunt if the pitch isn’t a strike.

    Heck of a job, Derek…heck of a job!

    But even more amusing than the continued Yankee futility in clutch spots is reading the posts that seem to equate a close loss with some form of moral victory. Well, those moral victories are going to find the Yankees out of the playoffs again. But, please, keep celebrating losses. It’s very amusing.

  1145. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    why can’t I post!!!!

  1146. Giuseppe Franco June 20th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    But according to genius Mike Francesa, Phil Hughes doesn’t translate well to the bullpen BECAUSE HE’S A STARTING PITCHAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!

  1147. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    “Boston will knock the Nats back down to earth. They play them this week.”

    Do you think so Bill? Do you really think so? Oh I hope so. I’ve used up almost all of daddy’s jack daniels dipping my binky in it so I can sleep. I had very bad dreams the other night. I had a dream that Dice-K came into my bedroom and was picking me up like a baseball and throwing me and he kept throwing me into the wall instead of out the door because he kept missing his target. I woke up crying and screaming and mommy had to come in and comfort me.

    Do you know anything about Dustin’s brother like when he’s going to court or something? I’ve been really worried about Dustin and sent him a letter saying I knew his brother would never do a boy. But mommy brought it back in the house because I didn’t address it to anyone. She wanted to know who Dustin was. I think she’s worried that I’m meeting strange men.

    Well I better go now because I hear mommy coming and that means it’s time to brush my teeth and get tucked in.

  1148. Cliff June 20th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Red Sox captain is a joke you moron. Get out of here.

  1149. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    “But according to genius Mike Francesa, Phil Hughes doesn’t translate well to the bullpen BECAUSE HE’S A STARTING PITCHAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!”

    :lol:

    Carlos Beltran is going to get an MRI, Jose Reyes felt something running in pre drills….WOW do those doctors suck or what :?

  1150. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    Well I better go now because I hear mommy coming and that means it’s time to brush my teeth and get tucked in.

    =============================

    Night night, sleep tight and you know what, I really do hope the bed bugs bite.

  1151. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    “2008: 40-34 3rd place, 5 games behind Boston (No playoffs)”

    And this season looks very similar to last year. No playoffs is right. When you have a fundamentally unsound ballclub and the offense is hot and cold…more often cold…then you know they’ll be staying home come playoff time.

    BTW, how did Beckett do tonight. Sure will be interesting to see how CC measures up to that performance.

  1152. Steve B June 20th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    “Carlos Beltran is going to get an MRI, Jose Reyes felt something running in pre drills….WOW do those doctors suck or what”

    Not sure we’re in a place where we can poke fun at other team’s medical staff. People in pinstripe houses…. :)

  1153. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Carlos Beltran is going to get an MRI, Jose Reyes felt something running in pre drills

    =========================

    Reyes felt something? Damn. The Mets are kinda lucky, half their team is injured, yet they are still in the thick of it in the NL East since Philly can’t seem to win these days

  1154. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    “Not sure we’re in a place where we can poke fun at other team’s medical staff. People in pinstripe houses…. ”

    Umm… I know but really our doctors >>> thier

  1155. m June 20th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    I don’t know of mo’s fat mouth is being trolled or not, but it’s pretty hilarious.

  1156. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    “2008: 40-34 3rd place, 5 games behind Boston (No playoffs)”

    And this season looks very similar to last year. No playoffs is right. When you have a fundamentally unsound ballclub and the offense is hot and cold…more often cold…then you know they’ll be staying home come playoff time.

    ==================================

    You think this season looks very similar to last season? lol
    Go to sleep, your mommy is gonna get mad.

  1157. Donald June 20th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    anyone sugar coating this loss aren’t in touch with reality. Here are the cold hard facts- this team is dreadful with risp. Some numbers have been padded by our goofy billion dollar stadium where a cheap can of corn to the outfield makes the seats. In situations where we have a runner on, i only want tex in that spot. I’m sorry everyone else are a dp risk or k risk. This team is largely unable to bring the runner home from third with less than two out, also the offense seems to like to take the first 7innings off of games. Its amazing how they allowed all the nats starters 7innings of cruising before we finally decided to work some counts. By that time it was too late. Finally, we are one of the worst in the majors at manufacturing runs, if we started Gardner more we would have a better chance.
    Our pitching is our best asset and more often than not will keep us in the game once we drop Wang and rightfully let Hughes start again, but i don’t trust alot of our starters at yankee stadium because they are terrified of contact and rightfully so, thus the walks are through the roof.
    Arod is a massive problem…killing this team stone dead right now- and more often than not over the course of the next 9awful years we have to put up with his act, its only goin to get worse. Sure there will always be a period where everything he touches lands in White Plains, but those instances will decrease steadily, or sinse he signed the new contract- dramatically over the course of the contract.
    Defensively, we have 3 DH’s playin every day. Mats, Damon and Posada and one dreadful right fielder in Swisher, a sorry fielder. Again its just Tex the only outstanding glove in the entire team now, and credit to Jeter for his improvement this year in his range. That run of errorless games was clearly an abhorration rather than the rule, the reality is most of them can’t be trusted to ply defense properly as Damon showed today who cost us the game.
    There seems to be a motivation and ego problem with this team right now, too few guys pickin their teammates up, guys like JOba mouthing off about Jorge, continual sistracting rumours about Girardi’s relationship with vets- it seems the egos are in charge of the clubhouse and Girardi certainly isn’t. No manager would allow his team to mail in the nats series like we did if he had any control over the locker room.
    Things are very serious guys- very serious.

  1158. m June 20th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Donnie,

    I’m sure you put a lot of thought into that post.

    But if we get the kind of pitching we have in the last week, not only are we getting to the post season. We’re going to kick ass when we get there.

  1159. robert June 20th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    “I don’t know of mo’s fat mouth is being trolled or not, but it’s pretty hilarious.”

    No, actually it’s not. When a troll gets under someone’s skin so bad that they use the troll’s name and clog the board even more, then you know the troll has won.

    How about just ignoring him? Or how about Jeter learns how to friggin’ bunt, or take the pitch if it’s a ball. Then the Yankees win a game they should have won and the trolls stay home!

  1160. m June 20th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Hey, Pete.

    Tell Jeter to stop GIDP’ing so that the trolls will leave your blog alone. :)

  1161. Mo June 20th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    The Yankees are above league average with RISP. Just because you say it doesn’t make it true. The team is slumping offensively now yet is still playing .500 baseball. If a few hitters heat up again, which is an inevitable part of the ebb and flow of baseball, this team should go on a run. Look at it this way- Boston played great the last two weeks, they have had an 11-0 run, are 8-0 against us, and still haven’t shaken us. I think that speaks well for this team. They are in striking distance, and with the bullpen pitching much better, have no huge holes anymore that cant be solved internally.

  1162. pat June 20th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Useless stat that is kind of cool

    “Dan Uggla took Burnett over the center-field wall in the second, but he recovered in the third with a rarity, striking out the side on nine pitches. Burnett mixed three fastballs and six curves to get Johnson, Chris Coghlan and Emilio Bonifacio swinging.

    Only 40 other pitchers had ever done it, and just two Yankees — Al Downing in 1967 and Ron Guidry in 1984. A no-hitter is far more common.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06.....ref=sports

  1163. hiya jackson! June 20th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    “But if we get the kind of pitching we have in the last week, not only are we getting to the post season. We’re going to kick ass when we get there.”

    That’s the most idiotic post of the year. The Yankees don’t score runs consistantly enough to kick anyone’s ass in the postseason. If the Yanks get there, they’ll be one series and done, guaranteed. And NY will be lucky to scratch out a single game victory. Aren’t you watching these games?

  1164. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 20th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    From Sweeny:

    Pettite and Burnett last two nights: 13.1 ip, 2 er. Posada catching.

    Dun dun dun dun

  1165. igotid88 June 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    I said I would feel better about the Yanks losses to the Nats if the Nats won 10 in a row after.

  1166. Han June 20th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    We will win tomorrow with CC on the mound. All CC needs tomorrow is 2 runs. The Marlins lineup is weak and they don’t have their best pitcher on the mound tomorrow.

  1167. Mo'sflatcutter June 20th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Rishi I take garbage every time I post here.So what else is new. *Don’t get mad at me,try the Yankees,* instead of making excuses for their lackluster play.

  1168. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 20th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    “I don’t know of mo’s fat mouth is being trolled or not, but it’s pretty hilarious.”

    Got to tell DT to stop impersonating mo’sflatctr, it’s funny but it gets too confusing.

  1169. Mo June 20th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    The Yankees don’t score consistently enough? They are among the league leaders in runs scored. They have scored 4 or more in 50 of their 68 games. By contrast, Boston has done that in 44 of their 68. The offense is plenty consistent. try to back things up with facts.

  1170. Jimmy June 20th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Funny, reading Pete’s running commentary you would almost think NYY won. Between he and Sterling/Waldman, the NY media are taking homerism to a new level – the level of FICTION

  1171. TeeJay June 20th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Jeter had a rough 8th inning. Couldn’t get the bunt down and then hits into a double play.

  1172. Giuseppe Franco June 20th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    It’s amazing how the collective IQ of this board plummets through the floor every time the Yanks lose a game.

  1173. Fan Interference June 20th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Johnson is the Marlins best pitcher. Losing to him and Lannon with the Nats the other day isn’t a big deal. Losing to the Nats with Stammen on the hill is inexcusable.

  1174. BR June 20th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    While Jeter does ground into alot of DPs he is far from the king of DPs on this team. Going into todays game Robinson Cano has had 41 opporotunites to ground into DPs and he has done so 8 times. Thats 20%. 20% of the time Cano is put in the situation he will ground into a DP. That is pretty bad to say it lightly.

    A little perspective on that stat: ODog has had 62 opporotunities and has only GIDP 2 times. Thats 3%…

  1175. Tidrow June 20th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    This team needs a run producing bat it the mold of David Justice or Bobby Abreu similar to trades made in the past. Yankees are at the top of the league in runs scored but many of them are of the pile on variety in games where they don’t need them. This team is atrocious when it comes to hitting with men in scoring position. With the talent they have this is unacceptable.

  1176. Fan Interference June 20th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    These are just my offhand predictions for the rest of the way. I think Tampa will surge, and take the Wildcard, and Boston will win the Division. The Yankees will win about 88-90 games, but still come in third. Girardi will be fired. A more experienced Manager will come in to work with the veterans.

    This is who will be gone:

    Matsui, Nady, & Damon. Andy could return on a one year deal as the 5th starter again.

    And now for the unpopular:

    Joba will reside in the pen permanently by next season, while Hughes joins the rotation.

  1177. Giuseppe Franco June 20th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Yes, that’s what this team needs – another DH.

    No thanks. They already have too many as it is.

  1178. Fan Interference June 20th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    “This team needs a run producing bat it the mold of David Justice or Bobby Abreu similar to trades made in the past.”

    The trouble with this, is that veteran DH bat that was so commonly available in the 90′s, was on steroids, and doesn’t exist today.

  1179. m June 20th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    I don’t know. I think Girardi sticks around long enough to work with the younger players the Yankees will be replacing the older players with. I think he’s managing the vets just fine. They look as listless at times as they did under Torre. It’s not the manager.

  1180. Giuseppe Franco June 20th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Joba is more talented than Hughes and always has been.

    There is no chance Joba goes to the pen next season unless he breaks down physically.

    Save all your BS predictions.

  1181. m June 21st, 2009 at 12:00 am

    But Hughes to the rotation next season’s not a bad prediction nor a stretch.

  1182. Pat M. June 21st, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Chone Figgins is a Free Agent….He’s turning 31, the same age Damon was when he signed with NY….Or do they hope that Tampa let’s Crawford walk…..Those are the type of ballplayer the Yanks need…..Maybe Jackson gets the call next spring…..

  1183. Giuseppe Franco June 21st, 2009 at 12:04 am

    m June 21st, 2009 at 12:00 am

    But Hughes to the rotation next season’s not a bad prediction nor a stretch.

    ——————

    No, it’s not a stretch and that has essentially been the plan since Day 1 of the 2009 season.

    Very few, if any, expect Pettitte back in 2010 regardless how he pitches the rest of the season.

    So Joba will remain in the rotation for good and Hughes will replace Pettitte next season.

    They aren’t going to sacrifice the more talented kid in Joba and put Hughes in the rotation instead. They’ll both be in it next season if everything goes as planned.

  1184. Tidrow June 21st, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Joba should stay in the starting rotation. I don’t know why this kid is held to a different standard than many other young pitchers at similar periods in their career. He’s kept them in virtually every game he’s started ever since he was converted to a starter. He has above average stuff and just needs to gain more experience. Guys with his talent aren’t wasted in the bullpen. Unless he can’t handle it physically it makes no sense to take him out of the rotation and put him in the bullpen. People need to just relax and watch this kid blossom into the ace he’s destined to be.

  1185. m June 21st, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Guiseppi,

    They need to solve Joba’s first inning woes. And I’m sure the Yankees would like him to put a few more ticks on his velocity.

    Joba’s getting the results, but he’s not the pitcher he was last season.

  1186. Fan Interference June 21st, 2009 at 12:07 am

    Giuseppe Franco

    Joba had the makeup of a closer, until Cashman went and ruined the guy. Now he walks the ballpark, argues with the All-Star catcher, and throws 100 pitches in 4 innings. He’s just great as a starter! Wake up and stop shoveling your BS.

  1187. Fan Interference June 21st, 2009 at 12:13 am

    And here’s more food for thought. The Yankees aren’t a one off franchise. Meaning we don’t win one title every 20 years, and leave it at that. The Yankees build dynasties. To do that you need a great closer, like Mo. But who takes over for him after next season? Melancon? A free agant? We have the guy here right now D**king around in the rotation. We bought our starters last year, and can buy more. You can always get a starter to pitch a big game. But how many closers can get the job done? Great closers don’t come around as often.

  1188. Fan Interference June 21st, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Agent.

  1189. igotid88 June 21st, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Giuseppe Franco June 20th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Joba is more talented than Hughes and always has been.

    There is no chance Joba goes to the pen next season unless he breaks down physically.

    Save all your BS predictions.
    ————————————

    I don’t know about more talented. I know he has more plus pitches than Hughes. But he’s also pitched more than Hughes.

  1190. igotid88 June 21st, 2009 at 12:21 am

    Fan Interference June 21st, 2009 at 12:07 am

    Giuseppe Franco

    Joba had the makeup of a closer, until Cashman went and ruined the guy. Now he walks the ballpark, argues with the All-Star catcher, and throws 100 pitches in 4 innings. He’s just great as a starter! Wake up and stop shoveling your BS.
    ———————————————————–

    He was never meant to be the closer.

  1191. Fan Interference June 21st, 2009 at 12:31 am

    “He was never meant to be the closer.”

    Maybe, but the potential was there.

  1192. Brandon 5 Cena ZEEEEEEROOOO "Because I'm AWESOME !" June 21st, 2009 at 12:42 am

    “Maybe, but the potential was there.”

    What do you mean maybe ? he was never meant to be that. God how I wish I could go back in time and keep the Yanks from bringing him up that season, then and only then this would not even be a thought.

  1193. mac1763 June 21st, 2009 at 10:14 am

    I agree the Damon play was an error.

    But how do you know, “the official scorer here, Ron Jernick, is one of the worst in baseball.”

    How many Marlins home games have you attended???

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