Matsuzaka to the disabled list
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The Red Sox today placed Daisuke Matsuzaka on the disabled list and Terry Francona said it will be for more than two weeks.
Probably a lot longer. Matsuzaka is 1-5 with an 8.23 ERA. He has allowed 59 hits and 18 walks in 35 innings. Boston is saying he has a shoulder injury. Just like the Yankees said Chien-Ming Wang had “weak hips” and the Tigers say Dontrelle Willis has an anxiety disorder.
Basically, the all have a case of pitching lousy. I’m sure the teams can somehow document these supposed injuries, but the manipulation of the disabled list has reached new heights. Every team does it, so nobody much cares.
Baseball should just allow it within the transactions.
BOSTON—Placed RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka (stinks) on the 15-day disabled list. NEW YORK— RHP Chien-Ming Wang (no longer stinks as much) was activated off the 15-day disabled list.
The other issue is the WBC, which is essentially to blame for Matsuzaka and cost the Yankees Damaso Marte. The Yankees remain very much relieved that CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett wanted nothing to do with the WBC.
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Chad Jennings
Sam Borden
Josh Thomson
insert pavano joke here
Now let’s see if the Red Sox prematurely bring up Dice-K in a panic move.
LOL
BOS placed RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka *(stinks)* on the 15-day disabled list.
OT:#Yankees VP Mark Newman told me about Cubans Arguelles and Iglesias: “Our interest in the Cuban players continue.” So we’ll see
-via jorgearangure ESPN
I wouldn’t say that “the WBC … is essentially to blame for Matsuzaka.” It certainly could have played a part, but a) thats a causation fallacy, and b) if you do go down that route, if anything is to blame, its his insane pitch #s in Japan, which people have been waiting to catch up to him.
That, and the fact that since pitching in the majors he’s been extremely lucky, with much worse peripherals than his era/record would suggest
Sox have major league ready pitchers at AAA so they will not make a panic move, the Yankees pretty much had to when they did
Marte and Veras are doing the cha cha with the chicas
they won’t have to worry about pitching for the immediate future
we face Hanson-Kwamikami-Lowe in Atlanta
and counter with Wang, Joba, Pettitte
the yanks did not have to panic they just did. they have this guy named Hughes pretty good upside. more upside then a 42 yr oild coming off major arm surgery, but what the heck spew uninformed nonsense.
the boston scam that they have more talent is a scam.. matsuzaka, looks like a good signing now doesn’t it???
how about that catching depth the sux have? Real deep….the sux have as many problems as most other teams…..
Marte is 2-3 weeks away from losing his job to Michael Dunn, that kid doesn’t even need AAA, he’s blowing away better hitters in AA and has no arm troubles.
Even though he stinks, BOS probably feels that they’ve gotten their money’s worth out of Dice-K. But man, that’s a lot of cash for a guy who only pitched well one season.
Brandon- what movie did you see yesterday? I am leaving in a few to see the Hangover
From Tom Verducci:
“Alex Rodriguez has the same road slugging percentage as the San Diego Padres’ David Eckstein. That is, away from the tight confines of Yankee Stadium, A-Rod’s slugging percentage is a meager .373.”
Hangover is hilarious, I recommend it to anyone.
Erica,
The Hangover is awesome, I saw it last week. On Friday I saw Year One which I thought wasn’t so good, but my GF loved it, so you never know.
From the other thread…
Guiseppe,
The crowd last night was again about 80% Yankee fans. Because it was Cowbell Night (a promotion that should be banned in every major league city. If your fans can’t cheer without giving them cowbells, you shouldn’t have a major league team), it got drummed out a little more than Friday night.
However, in the 8th inning, two things happened that surprised me. One, when Arod came up to pinch hit, flashbulbs were popping after every pitch. It was as if it was the 7th game of the World Series. It was almost blinding there were so many flashbulbs after every pitch.
The second thing was, he got a standing ovation from Yankee fans. No booing. Even the Marlins fans didn’t boo too much.
Made me wonder why he can’t get the same type of ovation in NY.
Then I read the last thread and I see why.
Too many haters who know nothing about baseball players or their lives.
A blog full of “Matt’s”. Perennial miserable fans who have no idea of anything except the results of the previous game. That sets their mood for the day. Laughable and sad at the same time.
Overall though, the pitching really is starting to come together.
The offense? Ugh, when they get into these funks, its pretty ugly to watch. The DP’s, chasing balls out of the zone, non-contact with RISP, all of the same symptoms of the last 3 years.
Its why Cashman decided to build the team around pitching this year. He realizes the offense is too inconsistent to be dependable.
If the pitching continues to improve, this team is going to be very, very tough to beat in the second half of the year.
In the meantime, they have to grind their way out of this team hitting slump and find a way to win this series.
Also remember that if the Red Sox hadn’t gotten Dice-K, they never would have signed Okajima.
So with the Dice-K deal the Sox got increased revenue in Japan, Okajima, one Cy Young type season from Matsuzaka (albeit a lucky one) and a championship.
I’m glad the Yankees don’t have Dice-K because their current rotation is good as is, but you can’t say it was a complete bust for the Red Sox, even if Dice-K does nothing from here on out.
If not Hangover go see Pelham 123.
I’m glad our pitching has been so great lately, but it really means nothing unless the offense can capitilize.
Great pitching and no offense is what puts the Blue Jays in third place every year.
Jayson Stark wrote an article a few weeks back citing the phantom injuries to Wang, Oliver Perez, and Willis (though strangely not mentioning Matsuzaka).
The article didn’t say much of anything, but he used the term “inflammation of the ERA” to describe their real ailment, which I thought was awesome and have been using whenever I talk about it to people
Weird similarities between the Sox and Yanks this year:
Wang and Matsuzaka – The Asian star dilemmas
A-Rod and Ortiz – The power hitter power outage
Chamberlain and Buchholz – The young pitcher issues
Teixeira and Bay – The new American awesome hitters
Now if only the Yanks went 8-0 against the Sox they’d be 5 games up in the East… Arghhhhh
Even w/o beating the Sox which eventually has to happen we were up 4 games on them. I would pump my chest if I’m the RS just yet. 1 week that’s all it takes.
Sure it means something.
Unless you think they won’t hit all year. If so, then then the season is over.
They will hit. However, without better pitching, they won’t make the playoffs.
‘Teixeira and Bay – The new American awesome hitters’
Bay is from Canada!
stuart a
June 21st, 2009 at 12:02 pm
the yanks did not have to panic they just did. they have this guy named Hughes pretty good upside. more upside then a 42 yr oild coming off major arm surgery, but what the heck spew uninformed nonsense.
the boston scam that they have more talent is a scam.. matsuzaka, looks like a good signing now doesn’t it???
how about that catching depth the sux have? Real deep….the sux have as many problems as most other teams…..
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This is a phony Stuart Little. Not one person was called a “moron”.
The WBC is responsible for Matsuzaka being bad? I don’t think so.
He walked half the population of Japan last year and weaseled his way out of it most of the time.
Time to face the music like the rest of Red Sox Nation. He’s just not that good.
Yanks can’t make noise about this make believe injury since it’s exactly the same as Wang’s situation.
The Sawx got Okajima because the Yankees turned him down… I guess they were gun shy after lavishing $ 46 Million on Igawa.
The WBS is definitely a factor in pitching injury problems. These guys all had to throw harder and use more breaking stuff early in training camp than they ever had before. I think the whole things is stupid, but if they have to do it, play it in warm weather cities in late October/early November. Play early round games in the daytime with World Series Games at night and pick it up after that.
“Yanks can’t make noise about this make believe injury since it’s exactly the same as Wang’s situation.”
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It’s similar but definitely not “exactly the same”.
Wang missed the 2nd half of the season with a legit injury. Part of recovering from an injury is regaining lost strength.
Wang didn’t do that and therefore had not fully recovered from injury.
Daisuke has no clear injury.
If the Yanks put Wang back on the DL, then maybe it will be the same.
Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
June 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
“Even though he stinks, BOS probably feels that they’ve gotten their money’s worth out of Dice-K. But man, that’s a lot of cash for a guy who only pitched well one season.”
Certainly Dice-K has been shaky of late. Call me biased if you want but I would still rather be paying Dice-K’s salary and having him on the roster than paying Igawa’s salary.
What has Igawa accomplished for his salary?
“So with the Dice-K deal the Sox got increased revenue in Japan”
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increased jersey sales and merchandise sales don’t pad the Sox pocket.
SJ44 or someone else can correct me if I’m wrong, but those types of sales are spread evenly among all teams.
So it’s a fallacy that there was this immediate, massive revenue gain which somehow absolves the $135M (actual) cost to the Sox for obtaining Daisuke.
If the Sox are getting advertising revenue, I believe they pocket that.
“Certainly Dice-K has been shaky of late. Call me biased if you want but I would still rather be paying Dice-K’s salary and having him on the roster than paying Igawa’s salary.
What has Igawa accomplished for his salary?”
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that is pointless.
Maybe you’d also rather have Matt Clement’s Sox deal than Carl Pavano’s Yankee deal (or Jaret Wrights
). If both are bad moves, they’re both bad moves.
Comparing them doesn’t change a thing.
and I’m not saying Daisuke won’t return to be a good starter. Igawa is a waste of space.
I do think he was somewhat lucky last year. He has the stuff but something is clearly off so far this season.
From the games I’ve seen, it had more to do with locating his pitches than lack of arm strength.
“SJ44 or someone else can correct me if I’m wrong, but those types of sales are spread evenly among all teams. So it’s a fallacy that there was this immediate, massive revenue gain which somehow absolves the $135M (actual) cost to the Sox for obtaining Daisuke.”
You’re right. Teams share that revenue. The only money that Boston would benefit from is advertising at Fenway and on their sports network, both of which have been huge disappointments. The Yankees never had that problem with Matsui because Japanese companies always bought signs that were placed right behind him in left field. They can’t do that with Matsuzaka.
Dice K lost velocity in his fastball. In the last game he was throwing between 89 to 91. That is an indication of an injury. WBC does have an effect on pitcher. While all the other pitchers in the spring training building up arm strength he had to throw harder.
The WBC stands for World Baseball C–p.
Matsuzaka’s luck has dried up….
Considering how he could give up so many runs and win last year… what makes everyone think that it would happen again this year?
He’s a junk ball pitcher…junk ball to the fullest.
So while they’re at it, send him to the eye doctor…foot doctor…whatever specialist they can throw him at. They did spend millions on this guy after all.
Any team that lets ANY of its players participate in the next WBC should be charged with player abuse. Put it out of its misery.