Comments on: Matsuzaka to the disabled list http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:06:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: wbcfan http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866925 wbcfan Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:51:06 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866925 Any team that lets ANY of its players participate in the next WBC should be charged with player abuse. Put it out of its misery. Any team that lets ANY of its players participate in the next WBC should be charged with player abuse. Put it out of its misery.

]]> By: ShuutoHeat http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866131 ShuutoHeat Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:39:18 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866131 Matsuzaka's luck has dried up.... Considering how he could give up so many runs and win last year... what makes everyone think that it would happen again this year? He's a junk ball pitcher...junk ball to the fullest. So while they're at it, send him to the eye doctor...foot doctor...whatever specialist they can throw him at. They did spend millions on this guy after all. Matsuzaka’s luck has dried up….

Considering how he could give up so many runs and win last year… what makes everyone think that it would happen again this year?

He’s a junk ball pitcher…junk ball to the fullest.

So while they’re at it, send him to the eye doctor…foot doctor…whatever specialist they can throw him at. They did spend millions on this guy after all.

]]> By: EricNS http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866091 EricNS Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:24:00 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866091 The WBC stands for World Baseball C--p. The WBC stands for World Baseball C–p.

]]> By: Christina25 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866066 Christina25 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:06:10 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866066 Dice K lost velocity in his fastball. In the last game he was throwing between 89 to 91. That is an indication of an injury. WBC does have an effect on pitcher. While all the other pitchers in the spring training building up arm strength he had to throw harder. Dice K lost velocity in his fastball. In the last game he was throwing between 89 to 91. That is an indication of an injury. WBC does have an effect on pitcher. While all the other pitchers in the spring training building up arm strength he had to throw harder.

]]> By: Patrick Bateman http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866026 Patrick Bateman Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:22:26 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866026 "SJ44 or someone else can correct me if I’m wrong, but those types of sales are spread evenly among all teams. So it’s a fallacy that there was this immediate, massive revenue gain which somehow absolves the $135M (actual) cost to the Sox for obtaining Daisuke." You're right. Teams share that revenue. The only money that Boston would benefit from is advertising at Fenway and on their sports network, both of which have been huge disappointments. The Yankees never had that problem with Matsui because Japanese companies always bought signs that were placed right behind him in left field. They can't do that with Matsuzaka. “SJ44 or someone else can correct me if I’m wrong, but those types of sales are spread evenly among all teams. So it’s a fallacy that there was this immediate, massive revenue gain which somehow absolves the $135M (actual) cost to the Sox for obtaining Daisuke.”

You’re right. Teams share that revenue. The only money that Boston would benefit from is advertising at Fenway and on their sports network, both of which have been huge disappointments. The Yankees never had that problem with Matsui because Japanese companies always bought signs that were placed right behind him in left field. They can’t do that with Matsuzaka.

]]> By: Boston Dave - OPPC http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866013 Boston Dave - OPPC Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:03:37 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866013 and I'm not saying Daisuke won't return to be a good starter. Igawa is a waste of space. I do think he was somewhat lucky last year. He has the stuff but something is clearly off so far this season. From the games I've seen, it had more to do with locating his pitches than lack of arm strength. and I’m not saying Daisuke won’t return to be a good starter. Igawa is a waste of space.

I do think he was somewhat lucky last year. He has the stuff but something is clearly off so far this season.

From the games I’ve seen, it had more to do with locating his pitches than lack of arm strength.

]]> By: Boston Dave - OPPC http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866011 Boston Dave - OPPC Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:02:04 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866011 "Certainly Dice-K has been shaky of late. Call me biased if you want but I would still rather be paying Dice-K’s salary and having him on the roster than paying Igawa’s salary. What has Igawa accomplished for his salary?" --------- that is pointless. Maybe you'd also rather have Matt Clement's Sox deal than Carl Pavano's Yankee deal (or Jaret Wrights :) ). If both are bad moves, they're both bad moves. Comparing them doesn't change a thing. “Certainly Dice-K has been shaky of late. Call me biased if you want but I would still rather be paying Dice-K’s salary and having him on the roster than paying Igawa’s salary.

What has Igawa accomplished for his salary?”

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that is pointless.

Maybe you’d also rather have Matt Clement’s Sox deal than Carl Pavano’s Yankee deal (or Jaret Wrights :) ). If both are bad moves, they’re both bad moves.

Comparing them doesn’t change a thing.

]]> By: Boston Dave - OPPC http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866009 Boston Dave - OPPC Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:00:24 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866009 "So with the Dice-K deal the Sox got increased revenue in Japan" ---------- increased jersey sales and merchandise sales don't pad the Sox pocket. SJ44 or someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but those types of sales are spread evenly among all teams. So it's a fallacy that there was this immediate, massive revenue gain which somehow absolves the $135M (actual) cost to the Sox for obtaining Daisuke. If the Sox are getting advertising revenue, I believe they pocket that. “So with the Dice-K deal the Sox got increased revenue in Japan”

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increased jersey sales and merchandise sales don’t pad the Sox pocket.

SJ44 or someone else can correct me if I’m wrong, but those types of sales are spread evenly among all teams.

So it’s a fallacy that there was this immediate, massive revenue gain which somehow absolves the $135M (actual) cost to the Sox for obtaining Daisuke.

If the Sox are getting advertising revenue, I believe they pocket that.

]]> By: ray (sox fan) http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866008 ray (sox fan) Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:00:15 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866008 Laura - All we are saying is give Wang a chance! June 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm "Even though he stinks, BOS probably feels that they’ve gotten their money’s worth out of Dice-K. But man, that’s a lot of cash for a guy who only pitched well one season." Certainly Dice-K has been shaky of late. Call me biased if you want but I would still rather be paying Dice-K's salary and having him on the roster than paying Igawa's salary. What has Igawa accomplished for his salary? Laura – All we are saying is give Wang a chance!
June 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
“Even though he stinks, BOS probably feels that they’ve gotten their money’s worth out of Dice-K. But man, that’s a lot of cash for a guy who only pitched well one season.”

Certainly Dice-K has been shaky of late. Call me biased if you want but I would still rather be paying Dice-K’s salary and having him on the roster than paying Igawa’s salary.

What has Igawa accomplished for his salary?

]]> By: Boston Dave - OPPC http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/06/21/matsuzaka-to-the-disabled-list/comment-page-1/#comment-866005 Boston Dave - OPPC Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:57:51 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=13281#comment-866005 "Yanks can’t make noise about this make believe injury since it’s exactly the same as Wang’s situation." ------- It's similar but definitely not "exactly the same". Wang missed the 2nd half of the season with a legit injury. Part of recovering from an injury is regaining lost strength. Wang didn't do that and therefore had not fully recovered from injury. Daisuke has no clear injury. If the Yanks put Wang back on the DL, then maybe it will be the same. “Yanks can’t make noise about this make believe injury since it’s exactly the same as Wang’s situation.”

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It’s similar but definitely not “exactly the same”.

Wang missed the 2nd half of the season with a legit injury. Part of recovering from an injury is regaining lost strength.

Wang didn’t do that and therefore had not fully recovered from injury.

Daisuke has no clear injury.

If the Yanks put Wang back on the DL, then maybe it will be the same.

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