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C-Money gets gangsta on the boys

Peter Abraham
June
24

Earlier in the day, I mentioned the hitters-only meeting held before the game. Brian Cashman was one of the speakers.

“He was a little fired up,” Mark Teixeira said. “There was no yelling, Cash isn’t that kind of guy. But he was here; he wanted to make himself known. … Sometimes the principal needs to show up in the classroom if the teacher’s having trouble with the students.”

Interesting.

Meanwhile, Mariano Rivera was more excited about lining out to center field than striking out all four batters he faced. Using a borrowed bat (Cody Ransom), helmet (Alfredo Aceves) and gloves (Cody Ransom), he drilled a fastball.

Catcher Brian McCann asked Mo if he had ever been up before. With his teammates on the top step of the dugout laughing, Mo showed he can swing a bat.

“That’s what happens when you have skills,” Robbie Cano said.

Francisco Cervelli had the ball from his first home run and was thrilled. For this night, at least, the Yankees were a happy bunch.

Oh, and Joe Girardi would have stayed on the field all night if Bill Welke hadn’t thrown him out.

“No comment,” the skipper said when asked how he managed to get tossed.

He was smiling, too.

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98 Responses to “C-Money gets gangsta on the boys”

  1. Richie

    He also said Joe Girardi is doing “an exceptional job.” In other words, it’s stay-the-course time.
    __

    After reading this quote, I now think that Cashman is part of the problem and needs to go as well.

  2. miggs

    So Cash is the principal and Girardi is having problems with the students?

    Interesting analogy there by Tex.

  3. 77513

    Cashman Giaradi quote

    “I think Joe has done an exceptional job, I do,” said Cashman, who noted the players are behind Girardi. “We’re scuffling right now for three weeks, but he’s not slumped over, down-and-out, woe-is-me or depressed or on edge or tight. He’s keeping his guys up, he’s keeping them positive and I hear his messages sent to them. He’s doing everything he needs to do.”

  4. jay

    Richie,

    I think you need to go.

  5. Erica - newly OPPC

    I am so glad Cervelli got the ball. I was hoping he would. He deserved it

  6. vtyankeefan

    I am as quick to get on the manager as anyone. I don’t see, however, how Girardi can be blamed if the guys don’t hit.

    The one thing I would like is to see Tex and ARod switched in the batting order. Alex may see a few more hittable pitches that way.

  7. m

    Well, whatever Cashman said didn’t work until Girardi got tossed. For what it’s worth…like nothing.

    Congrats to Cervelli, so glad he got the ball back.

  8. pat

    And with 1 sentence, Tex just gave sportstalk about 2 hours of material.

  9. Erica - newly OPPC

    pat
    June 24th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
    And with 1 sentence, Tex just gave sportstalk about 2 hours of material.

    ****
    Actually, it officially starts Girardigate and adds about 2 containers of lighter fluid to the fire

  10. 77513

    m
    June 24th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
    Well, whatever Cashman said didn’t work until Girardi got tossed. For what it’s worth…like nothing.

    Congrats to Cervelli, so glad he got the ball back.

    ——————————————————

    Yeah Cashman message didn’t look to good thru 5 innings.

  11. pat

    Alex is seeing hittable pitches. He’s just not hitting them right now. :sad:

  12. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Teixeira certainly says quite a bit even when he doesn’t intend to.

    Mo was awesome on the postgame. Said he was told not to swing, he did anyway and that it was unacceptable…with the hugest grin on his face. You wudda thought the Yanks just won the World Series!

  13. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC

    Sometimes the principal needs to show up in the classroom if the teacher’s having trouble with the students.”

    ==========================

    and with that, people will wonder who the “problem kids” are that the “teacher” is having trouble with. :?

  14. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    “and with that, people will wonder who the “problem kids” are that the “teacher” is having trouble with. :?

    I don’t think there’s much wondering.

  15. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC

    I don’t think there’s much wondering.

    =========================

    lol. True.
    Oy Vey :?

  16. Bronx Jeers

    Principal Cash, like
    Morgan F. in Stand By Me
    school is in session

  17. Bronx Jeers

    Not Stand By Me… Lean On Me

    Stand By Me is the one with River Pheonix.

  18. Every year is a world series year

    Really informative comment by Tex. I don’t think he realized what he just said.

  19. Nick in SF

    Edward James Olmos
    played a teacher with a heart
    Stand and Deliver

  20. E-gawa

    “The whole NL is weak. The Braves might actually be one of the better teams since they play in one of the harder divisions.”

    NL east is the weakest division in the NL.. the Braves are an under .500 team.

    Our pitchers should look like Cy Young winners against these guys. That’s what I expect.

  21. E-gawa

    And our hitters should own these bum pitchers that they’re throwing out there every day.

  22. Richie

    Every year is a world series year

    Really informative comment by Tex. I don’t think he realized what he just said.
    __

    It demonstrates how poorly run this team is. Taken together with CC’s comment about the effect that 120 pitches has had on his arm, it’s compelling evidence that changes have to be made at the top.

  23. Frank from Chatham, NJ

    Swisher vs. Nady

    Does anyone have an opinion which is better
    a. Defensively
    b. Offensively

    Was just wondering… b/c one would suspect that Nady will get the PT when he returns.

  24. 77513

    Dumb quote by Teixeira, the team only has problems with manager when they are losing. You didn’t hear about girardi having troubles dealing with the old guard when they were on that huge win streak before the Boston series. All you heard was how great the clubhouse was and that they play loud music and pies to face. Too many excuses by these overpaid players they shouldn’t even be a need for Cashman to fire up these veteran players.

  25. carl

    Stop reading too hard into the quote.

  26. Richie

    Frank from Chatham, NJ

    Swisher vs. Nady

    Does anyone have an opinion which is better
    a. Defensively
    b. Offensively

    Was just wondering… b/c one would suspect that Nady will get the PT when he returns.
    __

    Offensively, Swisher has a higher career OPS+ and wOBA.

    Defensively, Swisher’s UZR is a little better, but they are both about average OFers.

  27. JGS

    why does Aceves have his own helmet?

  28. E-gawa

    “say what you will, he didn’t walk a single batter.

    Joba’s problems have risen from his lack of control. He seemed to have great command of his pitches tonight.

    If he can keep that up, he’ll do just fine against even the better AL teams.”

    Yeah I don’t think so. NL is a little different than the AL.

  29. tommy h

    Is the chat tomorrow or Friday? or is it one of those its after midnight riddles?

  30. Every year is a world series year

    Richie, it seems some players agree with you.

  31. E-gawa

    “Joba only faced a pitcher once the other two at bats they were pinch hitters.”

    Right but NL lineups don’t have the power guy that they use as a DH. They have runners and defense on the bench. NL lineups are just weaker.

    It’s a quality start by Joba.. All I’m saying is, let’s not get carried away by it.

  32. vtyankeefan

    “Alex is seeing hittable pitches. He’s just not hitting them right now.”

    His BB/AB this month are ~50% higher than his career average. I’d say it looks like he is not getting much to hit. I don’t know it for a fact but I would guess that a lot of the outs he is making are on pitches out of the zone.

  33. Nick in SF

    I think the rules of this debate are that when Joba does well it’s only indicative of the weakness of the competition and when Joba does badly it’s indicative of the weakness of Joba as a starter.

  34. Bronx Jeers

    Fast Times, Atlanta
    Cashman plays Mister Hand
    Tex is Spicoli?

  35. 77513

    E-gawa
    June 25th, 2009 at 12:25 am
    “Joba only faced a pitcher once the other two at bats they were pinch hitters.”

    Right but NL lineups don’t have the power guy that they use as a DH. They have runners and defense on the bench. NL lineups are just weaker.

    It’s a quality start by Joba.. All I’m saying is, let’s not get carried away by it.

    —————————————————-

    Yes the NL lineups are weaker. But you acting like Joba hasn’t had any good starts against AL teams. Joba is a young pitcher he is going to have up and downs.

  36. m

    “why does Aceves have his own helmet?”

    Because his favorite player, Dennis Rodman played with one?

  37. Nick in SF

    Shaq goes to Cleveland?

  38. Nick in SF

    “Don’t forget, out next live video chat will be Friday (as in tomorrow) at 1 p.m. from Atlanta.”

    Please report to the Principal’s office.

  39. Bronx Jeers

    Ahhh… screwed another one. Missing a syllable.

    Francesa’s probably up right now trying to figure out how he’s going to debunk Joba’s start.

    Last week he was screaming about Joba being a JAG (Just Another Guy!)

    Joba’s been alright. Better than alright.

    One could argue he’s been their 2nd best starter.

  40. John (now in FLA)

    shaq to the cavs

  41. JRod

    Tex’s comments are really dependent on how you read into it. The “trouble” that Girardi is having could just be the fact that the team isn’t producing runs. That’s not necessarily a knock against Girardi. Cashman is just doing his job by getting his point across and that of the organization as a whole. As long as he doesn’t ban towels like the Seattle GM last year or gets knocked out by Shawn Chacon it’s all good.

    With that being said, it probably was a poor choice of analogy by Tex.

  42. RS

    We don’t use the DH-less NL lineups as an excuse for our sputtering offense, so we shouldn’t use it as an excuse for our good pitching.

    Lester gave up 3 runs in 6 innings against the Nationals. Does that mean if he was facing an AL lineup it would automatically be 5 innings, 5 runs instead? It’s silly to think that way.

  43. Nick in SF

    Joba has been fine.

    If the playoffs started tomorrow, you would start CC and Wang at home and Joba and Andy on the road.

    Am I forgetting anybody? ;)

  44. Nick in SF

    Cash’s role model
    taught what’s found in the abyss
    the great Hal Holbrook

  45. Pat M.

    E-Gawa, You may want to tell The LA Dodgers about being a weak team as they steamroll through the inter-league part of their schedule..Yes I understand that they lost tonight, however I get to see them alot and let me provide you with some insight, they are a very good ballclub….They can beat you at every facet of the game…And they have the best coaching staff in baseball……Torre,Bowa, & Mattingly….

  46. YankeeVIP

    very interesting quote by tex. it is strange that Cash is the one talking to the players..

    Ive said this before many times. I think girardi is over his head and that the players (especially the vets) just dont respect him enough. His attitude and approach is probably wearing thin on guys they are just blocking out his nonsense little pep talks.

    Girardi just seems like he is a bit to much of mr. nice

    I think this team would be much better served without him.. they would play alot more free and easy. Girardi with his milatary style approach and over-analysis must be keeping the guys tight.

  47. longtimefan

    very interesting quote by tex. it is strange that Cash is the one talking to the players..
    Ive said this before many times. I think girardi is over his head and that the players (especially the vets) just dont respect him enough. His attitude and approach is probably wearing thin on guys they are just blocking out his nonsense little pep talks.
    Girardi just seems like he is a bit to much of mr. nice
    I think this team would be much better served without him.. they would play alot more free and easy. Girardi with his milatary style approach and over-analysis must be keeping the guys tight.

    ————————–

    uh, this comment makes no sense. he’s “mr. nice” AND he has a “milatary style approach”?

  48. Bo Knows

    I would really like to hear from somebody how a manager fires a team up. Does he buy cans of lighter fluid, does he yell at them, do Rockne, what does he do? These are professionals that all make more money than he does and if they fail he gets fired. What does he use as a threat? Okay, go motivate Cano to look at a pitch before swinging. If he’s too dumb to do it on his own, you can’t communicate with him, he doesn’t reason. Where is the pride on this team? They have embarassed themselves for weeks and not one of the players has even mentioned it. In a bases loaded, down 3 runs, Jeter pulled a low outside slider into a DP and zip, nada, no “I messed up”. Posada yesterday – yecch! That’s leadership, that’s professional? I won’t even do Swisher, that was just embarassing. That’s entitled Prima Donnas, not Major League ballplayers.

  49. m

    Whoo Hoo. Can’t wait for Shaq’s comments next season. Matt Brown is the best coach he’s ever played for. LeBron is the best err….guard he’s ever played with. :)

  50. Bronx Jeers

    A Holbrook Haiku?
    perfection personified
    in this posters book.

    Andy Vs Lowe tonight in a what should have been match up during the 2004 ALCS. I’ll go to my grave saying Andy would have made the difference.

    Thanks and Goodnight.

  51. Pat M.

    What was the remarks that Texeria stated that is getting such play, as I don’t have access to the post game show…..

  52. 77513

    YankeeVIP
    June 25th, 2009 at 12:57 am
    very interesting quote by tex. it is strange that Cash is the one talking to the players..

    Ive said this before many times. I think girardi is over his head and that the players (especially the vets) just dont respect him enough. His attitude and approach is probably wearing thin on guys they are just blocking out his nonsense little pep talks.

    Girardi just seems like he is a bit to much of mr. nice

    I think this team would be much better served without him.. they would play alot more free and easy. Girardi with his milatary style approach and over-analysis must be keeping the guys tight.

    ———————————————-

    Teixeira a month ago said Girardi was the best manager he played for. Maybe Teixeira is bipolar.

    “The good thing about Joe is that he is consistent. He expects a lot out of us but you look at him and you can’t tell if we won or lost,” Teixeira said. “Your leader needs to show confidence. The manager can’t be upset after every loss. He can’t be angry all the time.”

    Then Teixeira paid Girardi the supreme compliment.

    “Out of all the managers I have had, he is the best I have had by far,” Teixeira said.

  53. stuart

    the bootom line tonight………..

    joba pitched very weel. he hung one of spped pitch to francoeur and had a throwing error.. if he pitches like this then you have a stud, fastball according to espn 92 and higher. I saw multiple 95’s he looked good. less love for offspeed more love for his fastball and he will be fine.

    they played well tonight got some hits with RISP, cano continues to suck when he must man up.. How can they send Cervelli down when Molina get’s healthy? I am not sure how they do that….

    Berroa is gone so the only total loser with no value to the team left is Tomko…Get him out bring up another arm or god forbid another OF…

    Gardner was safe, MLB umps are JOKES>>>>>>>>>>

  54. Nick in SF

    Joe said no ice cream
    nice guy with army crew cut
    but pies are still baked

  55. stuart

    girardi is not getting fired.. there is no reason to fire him. his in game mistakes can be counted on 1 or 2 hands, that is not much………

  56. m

    I think that the students in this analogy are the ones who are having trouble, not the manager.

  57. igotid88

    Nick in SF June 25th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    Joba has been fine.

    If the playoffs started tomorrow, you would start CC and Wang at home and Joba and Andy on the road.

    Am I forgetting anybody? ;)
    ———————————————

    I’m hoping Hughes will be able to start a playoff game. Sub him fow Wang. Otherwise it’ll be another first round exiit.

  58. pat

    Pat M

    “Sometimes the principal needs to show up in the classroom if the teacher’s having trouble with the students.”

  59. igotid88

    for

  60. Bo Knows

    Out of all the established players, Teix has played as a professional, I respect Damon’s effort but he’s hobbling. The rest, it’s painful.

  61. Richie

    m

    I think that the students in this analogy are the ones who are having trouble, not the manager.
    __

    Doe it really matter? The economic reality is that the students can’t be moved to another school irrespective of who is having trouble. Consequently, the only people that can be moved in order to fix the problem are the untenured teacher and superintendent.

  62. m

    Richie,

    I like Girardi. Other teams will too, if the Yankees fire him.

    This has nothing to do with the old guard not respecting Girardi. This has everything to do with the old guard completely forgetting the successful approach to hitting.

    Girardi will be the best manager for the team if and when the Yankees get younger.

  63. Giuseppe Franco

    I’m not seeing the big deal in Teixeira’s comments. You’d think it was A-Rod who said judging on the reaction by some people.

  64. Giuseppe Franco

    Good grief. I really butchered this one.

    You’d think it was A-Rod who had said that judging by the reaction of some people.

  65. Bo Knows

    m

    The old guard have posted long and admirable careers and are respected for it. This performance simply boggles the mind. They had been no hit through five and then after the Cervelli HR, three singles, how did that happen?

  66. carl

    Giuseppe Franco,

    lol

  67. Richie

    m,

    That’s fine. I think he could be a good manager in another market, but not in NY managing these Yankees.

    He has an overcontrolled personality, and he emits an aura of being tight. Neither are conducive to creating an atmosphere that is likely to put players in a frame of mind that will enable them to get the most out of their talent.

    I agree that the team is flawed. That’s why Cashman should be accountable as well, but the bottom line, imo, is that the team as a whole is less than the sum of its parts.

    As far as getting younger, there aren’t a lot of position players in the high minors (only AJack) so that isn’t likely to happen soon. As a result, I’m not sure why that should save his job.

    It may not be fair that Girardi has to bear the initial brunt of their underachieving, but sometimes changing a manager is the best, if not the only, way to turn a team around.

    Two recent examples are the Rockies, and the Penguins in hockey.

  68. pat

    Giuseppe

    It’s the kind of comment that means nothing but people with an agenda will make an issue of no matter who said it.

  69. Richie

    pat

    It’s the kind of comment that means nothing but people with an agenda will make an issue of no matter who said it.
    ___

    An agenda? Whoa, how diabolical.

    The only people that matter who can truly make an issue of it are the Steinbrenners, Levine, and Troast. If they still support Girardi despite the evidence that he is a net negative, the quote has no significance.

    As for whether or not it means anything, Freud would disagree, but whatever.

  70. stuart

    levine and trost do not make baseball decisons so there opinion is as improtant as bloggers on thsi site.

    cashman and the steinny boys are the only people that count..

    the tex comments meant nothing only people that have to much time on there hands think it is relevant………

  71. m

    Richie,

    You make some good points. Who was uptight when the team underachieved pre-Girardi?

    And looks like Girardi uptight personality didn’t bother the team too much in the month of May.

    It’s too simplistic to blame it on one person.

  72. Richie

    stuart,

    Tell that to Joe Torre, who has publicly stated that he thinks Levine played a big role in the decision to offer him a contract that he felt was an insult.

    So sorry, but you’re wrong on all counts.

  73. Pat M.

    Both Levine & Trost have juice with the Boys Steinbrenner……Hal is smart enough to see through all the bs….

  74. Richie

    m,

    I thought Girardi would be a welcome antidote to the laissez-faire approach that too many veterans seemed to have under Torre. I thought that he was not only stat savvvy, but that he also had the fire to slay the Boston dragon.

    I admit that I was wrong.

    As I said, m, it may not be fair, and in an earlier decade, a big trade involving veterans could be the necessary remedy to turn the team around, but their huge salaries make that nearly impossible.

    Again, Cashman is to blame as well, but I don’t see many examples of the firing of a GM to turn a team around with the exception of the 1999 NY Knicks, who fired Grunfeld, and then made it to the NBA finals.

    Anyway, good discussion. Sleep calls. GN.

  75. Nick in SF

    I don’t think Girardi’s going anywhere during this season unless there’s a total collapse – and if that were to happen it would almost certainly not be Girardi’s fault in any real way. But fresh faces sometimes bring fresh results.

    If there is no post-season trip, I think Girardi is gone. The Yankees wouldn’t keep around a two-season loser because of a so-called deft touch with youngsters. Perhaps he would be hired the next day, as has been suggested, but maybe not to manage a major league baseball team based on a track record of failure. ESPN? YES? MLBTV?

    I think it will be a moot point this year and the Yanks will make the post-season. If it’s one and out, the whole thing gets very iffy.

  76. Giuseppe Franco

    You’re right about that, Pat. Some people just have issues for the sake of having issues.

    Here’s something that I find extremely ironic pertaining to Girardi.

    Girardi is getting a lot of flak from the fans and media because of his so-called laid back demeanor this season.

    But last season he was just the opposite and he caught a lot of flak for that too.

    We’re talking about a guy in Girardi who had these guys running their asses off in ST a year ago and everyone acknowledged it was the hardest any Yankee manager had run them in many years.

    It’s didn’t help them to stay healthy because they had an enormous rash of injuries last April.

    Girardi also had a very strict policy on sweets and junkfood in the clubhouse. Remember how Moose always made a stink about Girardi taking out the ice cream freezer and he he went so far as to use his performance last season to get the candy machine(s) re-installed?

    Girardi was also criticized by the media for taking losses TOO HARD and he was often too uptight and his pre and postgame interviews were rough because he always wore his emotions on his sleeve and often very impatient with annoying questions?

    There were also a lot of stories about Girardi being too hardcore last season and it rubbed many of the veterans the wrong way. How many times did we hear that?

    This club had to have more team meetings last season than anyone in the game. Seemed like they had closed door meetings every other week.

    So Girardi comes into the season with a different approach and a little more laid back. He goes out of his way to give his guys more free reign and concocts different ways to unite his players and build some team chemistry (ie: Spring Training billiards tourney, loud music in the clubhouse, etc, etc.).

    He’s clearly not as uptight with the media and hasn’t butted heads with the beatwriters like he did a season ago.

    By all accounts, Girardi has been much more personable with his players than at any time he was last year.

    So now people are criticizing Girardi yet again because he’s not cracking skulls like he’s supposed to do as the team’s drill sergeant and he’s not taking losses hard enough and becoming more Torre-esque by the day.

    Is this an accurate rundown of Girardi’s last two seasons?

    I think so. Some people just complain for the sake of complaining.

    All the complaining last season helped change his approach this season.

    Can’t have it both ways.

  77. m

    Richie,

    Slay the Boston dragon? Nice symbolism there.

    Someone will correct me if I’m wrong, but we led in every one of those guess except for one (Andy’s start in Boston) or two. That’s on the players.

    Maybe we can lure Tito away from Boston? Surely he would know how to slay the monster. ;)

  78. m

    I think, no, I know that it’s been established that the decision to have healthier fare in the clubhouse came from the top. Girardi was not the one.

  79. Giuseppe Franco

    m June 25th, 2009 at 2:01 am

    I think, no, I know that it’s been established that the decision to have healthier fare in the clubhouse came from the top. Girardi was not the one.

    ——–

    Ah, yes. You are correct. My bad.

    However, I do know Moose bartered for the candy machine to be re-installed based on his performance and his wishes were eventually granted later in the season.

  80. Peter Abraham

    Giuseppe Franco:

    I challenge you to cite one example of Girardi getting a hard time about being too relaxed this season by a New York baseball writer.

    Just one.

    Such a thing has not happened.

  81. m

    That’s right, incentives work!

    I wonder what the incentive will be for a 2 game win streak? Joe can’t get kicked out of every game. :?

  82. KO

    I’m happy the Yanks won tonight, but one win against a sub par team (from the National League, to boot) doesn’t change the fact they’ve been playing like garbage in the recent past. They have more work to do. Also, I don’t think it’s a coincidence they won ‘cuz Girardi got thrown out (after the millionth OBVIOUS blown call against us this season?) AND ‘cuz Cervelli charged up our lineup. It’s too bad we can’t play this kid everyday. But hey I’m happy we have an almost 40 year old starting catcher who is WAY past his prime for the next two years. Uh, wait, no actually that kinda sucks.

  83. KO

    And by the way, this team should be in first place. Until then they’re still under performing and Girardi shouldn’t be any safer. But you know, Cashman wants 2 full seasons to admit he made a mistake. Until then, we have a manager who makes Derek Jeter, one of the best hitters of all time, bunt in the 8th inning w/ two guys on to bring up Johnny Damon.

  84. Giuseppe Franco

    Pete,

    Michael Kay has talked about it several times on his show. Is that good enough for you?

  85. m

    Pete’s the man, but if you guys aren’t reading Tyler Kepner, you’re really missing out.

    From his recap:

    “When you know your manager has your back in every situation, it really shows to his players,” Swisher said. “When he did that, it was awesome. That really, really turned it on for us.”

    And this is Tex’s quote with an endline from Kepner. Kepner didn’t think the quote was as odious as some here thought:

    Teixeira continued: “You could just tell he means business. He wasn’t supposed to be here. He flew to Atlanta because we weren’t playing well. Sometimes the principal needs to show up in class if the teacher’s having trouble with the students.”

    When principal and teacher delivered their messages, the Yankees responded emphatically.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06.....f=baseball

  86. Giuseppe Franco

    Oh yeah, and Francesa said the same thing to Girardi last week.

    Girardi responded by saying that some people just don’t know what they want because he got criticized last season for taking losses too hard.

    Go find the mp3 podcast listen to it for yourself.

  87. G. Love

    Tex’s quote is pretty damning.

    Add that to watching Tony Pena literally give Arod the Apollo Creed in Rocky’s corner treatment and Arod delivers and Girardi is in trouble.

    It may be insignificant, but perhaps Tony Pena knows how to get the best out of Arod.

    Maybe Arod needs the rah rah “you’re the man” type of stuff and Joe’s calmly wound tight demeanor isn’t giving the players the confidence and/or the love they need.

    I don’t know. All I know is Joe got tossed, Pena was shouting and smiling in the dugout showing emotion and the team won.

    Could be a fluke. Could be nothing.

    But if I were the owner of this team I would pay very close attention to the next bunch of games and see if the spark dies when Girardi is steering the ship.

    For Girardi’s sake, these guys better keep hitting.

  88. Nick in SF

    Swisher’s quote proves that Girardi is the best young manager in the game.

  89. m

    G. Love,

    No doubt Tony Pena’s got passion. But read Swish’s quote in my last post. I’m sure it’s reflective.

    I think there was some domino effect. Girardi has Gardner’s back, Cervelli responds (true hero!), the guys are pumped that Cervelli (!) hit his first career homerun in the cavernous Atlanta park, and the rest is history.

    Click on the link to Kepner’s recap, you’ll see that Alex’s hit had more to do with his tireless preparation in the video room (or K. Hudson’s room?) than Tony Pena pumping him up.

  90. raymagnetic

    C. Diddy runs the city.

    Makes perfect sense to judge the next manager based observing what the bench coach “gets” out of the star player. Perfect sense, or not.

    Pep talks rarely work in sports, the players still have to play the game. If a player needs a manager to get the best out of themselves then something is obviously wrong with the player.

  91. m

    oops. dangling participle.

    *reflective of how most of the players feel.

  92. Nick in SF

    Swisher is the glue that saves the manager?

    Maybe that’s what he was doing in that meeting: getting his talking points.

  93. E-gawa

    “Yes the NL lineups are weaker. But you acting like Joba hasn’t had any good starts against AL teams. Joba is a young pitcher he is going to have up and downs.”

    He’s had 2 starts where he’s gone past 6….

    His velocity is down on everything except his cutter which is up…

    It just feels like more downs than ups to me.

  94. Giuseppe Franco

    It just feels like more downs than ups to me.

    —————–

    Yet he still has the second best ERA on the staff and has been the most consistent starter they’ve had all season.

    Of course Sabathia has been better overall this season because he always gives this team innings no matter what but he has allowed 4 ER or more in a start six times this season.

    Joba has allowed 4 ER or more just twice. He’s allowed 3 ER or less in 12 of his 14 starts this season.

    Not bad for a 23 year old kid in his first full season starting in the major leagues.

  95. JohnBlacksox (24 + 1)

    Just curious…Has there been any official or unofficial word on the goal for Joba’s innings this year?

    Now that he’s settling into the starter job, what happens if September 1st arrives and he’s at 170-180 innings? Is it full speed ahead to 220? Do they hold him back for the playoffs? Or do they start skipping him in July/August to keep the innings down?

  96. sab

    yeah cashman’s “talk” really had an effect on the hitters as evidenced by the first 5 innings of powerful hitting – cashman’s talk garnered as much results as trying to get a suntan at night..

    the catalyst was girardi’s lame attempt at getting tossed (hey it was lame but it worked)..when they don’t hit again tonight girardi needs to take a bat to the visiting clubhouse and leave some damage – say nothing – and walk out of the clubhouse – eaving everyne wondering what the hell just happened – stuff like that stays with these lazy millionaires – not some geek who likes to spend uncle steiny’s money trying to motivate them..

  97. Josh

    I think the Tony Pena era needs to start now. Great work by Pena, in particular, getting in A-Rod’s face before he got up with the bases loaded.

  98. Bob Cypher

    Does Girardi have the Grouch glasses and mustache diguise someplace?

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