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Setback for Nady

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 25, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Xavier Nady took himself out of the Scranton game tonight when he felt pain making a throw.

“We don’t know what he did yet but it could be the worst-case scenario,” Brian Cashman said.

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54 Responses to “Setback for Nady”

  1. miggs June 25th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Wow.

    Not good.

    This sounds like it could be the end of his season.

  2. cor shep June 25th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    ugh.. after such a good night

  3. Rose June 25th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    If Nady is done look for Cashman to do something. Don’t think he will go all year with Swisher, Melky and Gardner for RF and CF.

  4. rconn23 June 25th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Time for the Yankees to kick the tires on Mark DeRosa.

  5. Nick in SF June 25th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    Before the knew Eyes
    LoHud ladies loved Nady
    Type A free agent

  6. m June 25th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    Poor Nady. The writing was on the wall, but this setback must be devastating for Xavier.

  7. 77513 June 25th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    I dont think they need to trade for another bat even if Nady is done for the season. With Swisher in right and Gardner/Melky in center I think they are still fine. They need to add another quality bullpen arm.

  8. BBB June 25th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    wow…worst trade ever. We’ve gotten nothing from either player we traded for.

  9. Josh June 25th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    I really dont think we need Nady, I mean he would be a help to the organization but isnt a “must have” player. Melky and Gardner are good in the outfield and Swisher is a fan favorite and a descent/good player. I mainly think to win game the Yankees need to play more small ball (which they’ve been doing more lately). If the Yankees get rid of Matsui, they can DH Posada and put Cervelli behind the plate. But, whatever. Best of luck to the Yankees.

  10. BBB June 25th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    I think trading for a solid 8th inning arm is top priority, but if they could get an OF/RP package from some team, thatd be ideal. Unfortunately DeRosa/Cleveland wouldnt really be a match, since their bullpen is so bad they traded for Jose Veras. That’s monumentally bad.

  11. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Oh No

  12. Nick in SF June 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Sad night for X-Man
    Yet more starts for Nick Swisher
    Melky and Gardner

  13. Josh June 25th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Veras wasnt getting enough time but the worst part is they traded him for money! The Yankees dont need money! Im hoping they have something up their sleeve…..

  14. m June 25th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    BBB,

    How about a Veras/DeRosa for Tomko/Igawa/Shelley Duncan deal? :P

  15. GreenBeret7 June 25th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Those crazy, hazy Angel fans. Third assault in the parking lot this year. Assault on off-duty cop gets two thugs shot.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4285702

  16. GreenBeret7 June 25th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Boston Dave 2.0 – the kinder gentler version
    June 25th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    “Ouch. News on Nady doesn’t sound great. Made two throws from the outfield and took himself out after the second throw.”

    ———

    not good at all.

    I guess it’s up to Swisher and Matsui to carry their weight.

    There is no bailout plan in sight.

    ————————————————————

    Unless the plan is to keep him around as a DH/PH, his season is cooked. He may as well have the surgery. At best, he’d be a B level FA next year, after this setback.

  17. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version June 25th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    Derek Jeter:

    on pace for the following –

    .308/.451/.828

    21HR, 204 hits, 109 runs, 70RBI, 40SB

    as a leadoff hitter, that could get you the MVP in some seasons.

  18. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version June 25th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    oh, and just 2 caught stealing to go with those 40 SB!

  19. TeeJay June 25th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Jeter
    Damon
    Teixeira
    Rodriguez
    Cano
    Posada
    Matsui
    Swisher
    Gardner/Melky

    That lineup is stacked even without Nady. They need another arm hopefully the Rockies fall out of it and trade Huston Street.

  20. Nick in SF June 25th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    The trade looks bad now
    We added by subtracting
    Coug bait Tabata

  21. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version June 25th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    “Unless the plan is to keep him around as a DH/PH, his season is cooked. He may as well have the surgery.”

    ———-

    It’s possible they’d keep him as a DH if they decide they no longer need both Ransom and Pena but unlikely.

    It may come down to Matsui vs. Nady. Who can help them more from the DH spot?

  22. Brandon... "R.I.P. King Of Pop" June 25th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    X out for the season. If I were him just get the surgery, don’t even mess w/ it.

  23. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version June 25th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    “They need another arm hopefully the Rockies fall out of it and trade Huston Street.”

    ——–

    I think Heath Bell is more likely.

    Perhaps throw the Padres some bones to help pay for Brian Giles so they can DFA him and his $9M contract and his abysmal line .191/.271/.548

  24. Rich James June 25th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    please god no!! Not Swisher everyday for the rest of the season!!

    NOOOOOOO

  25. miggs June 26th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    FYI if anyone cares….

    I was impoersonated again tonight with posts at 10:21 PM and 10:31 PM.

    These posts are completely idiotic and usually involve benching Posada or other useless offensive nonsense.

    I emailed Pete and hopefully he’ll ban this moron but if you see a post with illogical Yankee talk or lots of CAP LOCKS (usually trashing Posada) its not me.

    If anyone actually cares.

  26. Brandon... "R.I.P. King Of Pop" June 26th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    Meanwhile Colin Curtis w/ a HR that’s now 3 out of 4 games in AAA w/ an XBH. :)

  27. tonyb June 26th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    You’ve got to figure this is it for Nady. Just shut it down for the season and go find another outfielder.

  28. 77513 June 26th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Colin Curtis will be a better major league player than Austin I strike out every game Jackson.

  29. Nick in SF June 26th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    I prefer real miggs
    Who’s Smart about Posada
    I called out the fake

  30. pat June 26th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    miggs

    Send Pete an e-mail with the times and he’ll block the person it is coming from.

  31. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 26th, 2009 at 12:07 am

    miggs June 26th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    FYI if anyone cares….

    I was impoersonated again tonight with posts at 10:21 PM and 10:31 PM.

    These posts are completely idiotic and usually involve benching Posada or other useless offensive nonsense.

    I emailed Pete and hopefully he’ll ban this moron but if you see a post with illogical Yankee talk or lots of CAP LOCKS (usually trashing Posada) its not me.

    If anyone actually cares.

    =============================

    Yeah, your evil impersonator sure likes trashing Posada. Easy to tell it’s not you.
    Hopefully Peter will nip him/her in the bud :)

  32. Brandon... "R.I.P. King Of Pop" June 26th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    “Colin Curtis will be a better major league player than Austin I strike out every game Jackson.”

    Umm.. no he won’t, Colin has some XBH potential, Austin Jackson can be a franchise player, can not that he is or will be.

  33. Nick in SF June 26th, 2009 at 12:10 am

    S.A with tough talk
    Another nip reference
    R.I.P. Farrah

  34. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 26th, 2009 at 12:19 am

    Oh lordy

  35. longtimefan June 26th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    didn’t this happen with bruney a few weeks back? pain can be, but isn’t always a harbinger of doom.

  36. CB June 26th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    It’s funny how quickly depth can disappear.

    Nady vs. Swisher was a hot topic in the spring. Now they don’t even have the choice.

    As long as Melky and Gardner can produce close to their current level and Damon doesn’t get hurt they’ll be ok. But this is another issue that is predicated on what they get out of Alex.

    They really could have used Nady this year, especially is Swisher is on one of his significant cold streaks when the playoffs roll around.

    That’s the thing with the whole issue of whether Hughes vs. Pettite or Hughes vs. Wang in the rotation – the main thing there is that the team has the option.

    Trading for both bull pen help and an OF will be very difficult. Would have to involve taking back significant salary.

  37. David (In Seattle) Official Unofficial NPC of the Yankees June 26th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    Ultimate Haiku?
    Mariano Rivera
    Greatest of all time

  38. ard June 26th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    @longtimefan

    yea it did and it also happened with nady too but then i believe he didnt feel anything again till now so it could just be routine pain etc i guess theyll know more tomorrow

  39. Pat M. June 26th, 2009 at 12:31 am

    Nady’s right handed bat was highly anticipated…..They’ll need to find a rh bat………

  40. David (In Seattle) Official Unofficial NPC of the Yankees June 26th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    If Nady is done, I think they will need another outfielder, if only because the offense has been so streaky, they could use a steady, solid hitter. I’d love to add Street, but wouldn’t mind getting a look at Kontos, Dunn or more of Melancon first.

  41. stuart June 26th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    the nady loss will hurt. seeing swisher every day is more then I can handle…

    yep that trade did not work out, injuries cannot be predicted..

    even though robertson had a slight blip tonight there pen is 50% better then 30 games ago. they need to use hughes in more meaningful circumstances…..

    there pen is young.. tomk doesn’t count and mo are the only guys with any age…robertson, hughes, coke, aceves are all 27 or less. bruney is 27 also I think….

  42. CB June 26th, 2009 at 12:42 am

    Should nady need a second TJ surgery I believe he would be the first position player ever to require a repeat ligament replacement.

    Should he need a second ligament replacement it would be basically unprecedented.

  43. Christina June 26th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    I just got home from the Syracuse game. I had a feeling something was wrong with Nady when he was pulled in the bottom of the fifth, after only 2 AB’s

    There was a play at home in which he clearly could have had a chance at getting the guy out at home. Instead of throwing it home, he threw it to whoever was standing between first and second base.

    He didnt immediately pull himself from the game though, as this happened in the 3rd inning. So I am not sure if he tried to play through it and couldnt or if it developed more as the game went on.

  44. Ramey June 26th, 2009 at 12:54 am

    tough break with X. You had to have figured the chances were pretty good he’d feel something. Maybe he’ll get some good news and he just won’t be able to throw back to back days or something. His bat coming off the bench or even in a reserve role with Swish would make them both more valuable. Hopefully his season isn’t over, but it probably is.

  45. Jay June 26th, 2009 at 12:55 am

    Unfortunately for Yankee fans, Smoltz’s first appearance with the Red Sox was much more impressive than it appears from the box score:

    First of all, although he gave up four runs in the first inning, he only gave up one run on four hits and no walks in the four innings after that.

    Second, I saw a few of his pitches on ESPN and stats about batters’ success against them. And let me tell you — his slider and curve looked really, really, really nasty. And batters performed very poorly against them — even factoring in the first inning.

    And although they showed batters hitting .800 against his fastball for the game, he was already dialing it up to 93 mph in one of the pitches they showed.

    If his health holds up, I think he’s going to be a huge addition to their staff. And if Andy fades again like he did last year — which he shows every sign of doing again this year — his addition and Andy’s subtraction could really change the relative strength of the Yankees’ and Red Sox’s respective starting staffs.

    On the other hand, it wouldn’t surprise me if Bard turns out to be their Veras, if Saito continues to disappoint, if Papelbon doesn’t continue to get worse with the passage of time, and we don’t turn out to have a relief corps that’s as good or better than theirs by late this season.

  46. Giuseppe Franco June 26th, 2009 at 12:56 am

    So much for the myth that the Red Sox are undefeated against bad teams this season and the Smoltz they are getting is going to be close to what he was in 1996.

    Every team has issues and the Red Sox are no exception.

  47. o'Realy June 26th, 2009 at 12:57 am

    Aw man, and I have tickets to both Cuse Chiefs game this weekend to see him play. Aw well, still pumped to see the rest of the guys mash.

  48. m June 26th, 2009 at 1:02 am

    I was so looking forward to Nady coming back. And it wasn’t for his looks. :(

  49. Jay June 26th, 2009 at 1:07 am

    P.S. All told, I think the Red Sox will continue to beat us like a rented mule.

    I say that because:

    (1) We swing for the fences almost every at bat and rarely show any understanding of the concept of hitting outside pitches to the opposite field — which allows us to bludgeon the middle relief and half ass starters of lousy teams, but almost guarantees that we’ll continue to lose against better pitchers and better teams and all but guarantees yet another early exit in the postseason. (How many years has it been now since we won a single post season series?)

    (2) The more important the game, the more the Red Sox elevate their play. In contrast, the more important/significant the game, the more we disappear and play small.

    (3) I think we can be counted on to do stupid things in terms of lineup, strategy, rest between starts, etc., while the Red Sox can be counted on to to very intelligent things.

    (4) I don’t believe our primary catcher is fundamentally sound, I don’t think his baseball I.Q. is very high, and I don’t think he’s in control of his emotions, while I think theirs is way better on all of those counts — although theirs should be suffering from the ravages of age like ours seems to be doing and probably will show his age before the year is out. But I think sound fundamentals, a high baseball I.Q., and having control of your emotions — all of which I think is true of Varitek — goes a long way.

  50. G. Love June 26th, 2009 at 1:08 am

    As someone who knocks Cashman for some of his blunders, I refuse to nail him for the Nady/Marte deal.

    Karstens had to go. Had to. If he didn’t, he pitched just well enough to let Girardi give him innings and he didn’t have AL East (or MLB IMO) stuff. He was like a teachers pet kind of pitcher who was just bad enough to keep getting the ball.

    Tabata is still in the minor leagues and until he gets promoted to the show and is a productive player and not the next Milledge, he’s nothing.

    Ohlendorf would be nice to have in the pen, but he wasn’t settling into the role and the team was jerking him around from long man to short…not to mention he had no shot of starting here which he appears to excel at.

    So we traded a Quad A pitcher who pitched good enough to stay on a MLB roster in Karstens, a minor league OF prospect who gets injured a lot, has personal issues and isn’t lighting the minors up and a starting pitcher who couldn’t crack our rotation and didn’t fit in our bullpen.

    If Marte comes back and can get some big outs for this team, he’ll have been worth it alone considering our pen is biggest weakness next to the feast or famine offense.

    I feel bad for Nady but when they said he was going to try to rehab an injury that normally required TJ surgery I pretty much figured we’d never see him in the OF again.

  51. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version June 26th, 2009 at 1:57 am

    “Unfortunately for Yankee fans, Smoltz’s first appearance with the Red Sox was much more impressive than it appears from the box score”

    ——–

    I watched the actual game (you should try that sometime). He wasn’t impressive.

  52. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version June 26th, 2009 at 2:04 am

    “his slider and curve looked really, really, really nasty.”

    ——-

    honestly, how can you make a statement like this when you didn’t watch him pitch?

    you saw a couple ESPN highlights and I guess that’s all the info you need.

    Three “reallys” ???

    I think that’s a really really really poor assumption on your part.

    I saw the game.

  53. Jay June 26th, 2009 at 5:29 am

    Boston Dave,

    His slider and curve didn’t look sick in the fifth inning? I’m just asking — seriously.

    They definitely looked sick to me. He struck out the side. And according to ESPN stats (I saw on TV), their average was something like .250 against the slider and .188 (or less) against the curve (or vice versa) however they might calculate it — even including the first inning when he was hanging pitches like crazy (probably because he was overthrowing it and it was his first appearance in the majors this year. So if he had too much adrenaline going, it wouldn’t be surprising. But he looked like an ace to me — and one that I wouldn’t want my team to be facing late in the season/in the post season.

    But again, Boston Dave, you didn’t think his pitches were absolutely sick in the fifth?

  54. Joshb July 8th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    I’m sorry but Nick Swisher needs to get out of that lineup. I would play Gardner in center and Melky in right field. Then you could use Swisher to give Melky or Damon a day off.

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