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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 25, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

bildeJoe Girardi got tossed during the game and Brian Cashman got fired up beforehand as the Yankees beat the Braves. It was the win they badly needed.

CC Sabathia is ready for the Mets. This notebook also has updates on Mariano Rivera going to the plate, a roster move and Xavier Nady’s first rehab game in Scranton.

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The NBA Draft is tonight. Back when I covered college hoops in Connecticut, doing a mock draft was always fun and I covered the draft a few times.

A few thoughts:

• Saw Hasheem Thabeet twice in person last winter. He can run all day and block shots. But it’ll be a few years before he’s strong enough to rebound in the league and he has no offensive game.

• There is no chance Ricky Rubio is worth the second pick of the draft. Two questions: Can he get his shot off against better athletes and who can he defend?

• Love Jonny Flynn. Love James Harden. They have old-school games and won’t pass up big shots.

• Brandon Jennings is not nearly as good as he thinks he is.

• Stephen Curry is not really a point guard. But he’s probably better than anybody else the Knicks can get at that slot. But Ty Lawson could run that offense.

• Never take a Duke player. Never.

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274 Responses to “Today in The Journal News”

  1. Guy Incognito June 25th, 2009 at 8:09 am

    Minor league thought:

    Saw on New Stadium Insider this morning that Sergio Mitre had a good game for Scranton last night. Mitre was a serviceable #4 starter for the Cubs for a couple years before being squeezed out by free-agent signings. A friend of mine from high school played with him through AA in the Cubs’ minor league system so I followed their careers together; Mitre was the Cubs’ best pitching prospect after Wood and Prior came through.

    Mitre’s never going to pitch at the AL East level, so perhaps he should be on the market to NL clubs.

  2. Steve B June 25th, 2009 at 8:14 am

    “Mitre’s never going to pitch at the AL East level, so perhaps he should be on the market to NL clubs.”

    No evidence he’s going to pitch at the NL level either. A PED guy with a 5.4 career ERA, all of which was in the NL, won’t have much of a market.

  3. Betsy June 25th, 2009 at 8:16 am

    Wow, I can’t believe people are making a big stink about Tex’s comments……… talk about taking an analogy and running with it.

    Big whoopie that the Yankees burst out offensively (for ONEE night) after Joe got ejected – now we’re going to attribute that to Tony Pena’s influence? Laughable.

  4. RhapsodyInBlue June 25th, 2009 at 8:21 am

    Steven Curry or Ty Lawson to the Knicks would be a great fit.

  5. tinkinrocks June 25th, 2009 at 8:24 am

    Thabeet got schooled by Pitts Blair, he definitely needs to muscle up..

  6. Joey's Poodle June 25th, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Pena influences the team every day regardless whether Girardi has a tantrum or not. It is obvious to anyone who actually watches the games uninterruptedly and sees the interactions between him and the players that there is both respect and comfort between them. That’s a great combination.

    Does it mean he would be a better manager for this team than Joe? Not necessarily. But I would be very, very surprised if the question does not already exist in the minds of FO.

  7. Steve B June 25th, 2009 at 8:25 am

    “Big whoopie that the Yankees burst out offensively (for ONEE night)”

    Gotta start somewhere. Big hit of the night belonged to Rodriguez. He doesn’t get that 2 out hit in the 6th, who knows where that game ends up? Not a big fan, but that was clutch. Aside from Bruney, the Yankees were terrific last night. Joba was in the stike zone all night, pitching to contact. No walks and only four Braves batters got to a 3 ball count. Excellent effort.

  8. ray June 25th, 2009 at 8:29 am

    Game blacked out in CT and not on YES. That s*cked.

  9. Guy Incognito June 25th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    Steve B:

    Ah. Forgot he was a PED guy. NL stats weren’t great but he’s got some tools. Wonder what the Yankees are doing with him.

  10. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    That was a WEIRD game.

  11. Betsy June 25th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    Steve, you missed my point. There are people actually crediting Pena for that – which think is ludicrous. Then again, the same people think Tex’ comments mean Joe has lost the clubhouse……….

  12. Patrick from CT June 25th, 2009 at 8:33 am

    Boy, you got to like that kid Cervelli! He lead the team back last night. After a night where Posada totally stunk, Cervelli’s energy behind the plate was vary much needed!
    Is Molina now trade bait? Probably not, but this kids will be on the team next year from the looks of things. Posada needs to stop moping and show a little more life. The Yankees need him to play to his big contract.
    The Yankees needed that win big time! Let’s hope they get on a roll now. Win again to day and take 2 of 3 from the banged up Mets…

  13. Giuseppe Franco June 25th, 2009 at 8:35 am

    All it took was one swing by A-Rod in Baltimore to get this team on a roll in May.

    Maybe last night’s base hit by A-Rod can do the same thing.

  14. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 8:37 am

    Betsy, no offense, but weren’t you the one saying that CC was throwing Joe under the bus for saying “It could have been 120 pitches?” But when Tex makes a statement like “Sometimes the principal needs to take over for the teacher” (paraphrased) which sounds to me clearly as if Joe has lost some control of his team, but that’s “taking an analogy and running w/it”.

    Not trying to pick a fight, but consistency please?

  15. Betsy June 25th, 2009 at 8:37 am

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/

    “That’s not why I did it, but whatever it takes,” Girardi said. “If they’re going to score eight runs after I get ejected, I’ll take the lineup cards out tomorrow and do it early.”

    Teixiera said it could have been the “sparkplug” that got the Yankees going.

    “I love seeing a manager stick up for his team. It was a bad call and Joe stood up for us,” Teixeira said. “He knows we’re battling out there, so he’s going to go battle for us.”

    **Joe has done this before – Tex’ teacher comment was not meant to reflect on Joe at all, just on the players…

  16. Steve B June 25th, 2009 at 8:38 am

    Guy:

    AAA is typically a taxi squad for most organizations. Not to say there are never prospects there, but all organizations have AAA teams littered with fringe guys like Duncan, J. Rodriguez, Tomko, Mitre, Ransom, etc. who can fill in for the big club if injuries get too out of hand.

    Don’t see Mitre as much more than that type of pitcher. Doesn’t have a history of missing bats in MLB.

  17. Dundee Awards June 25th, 2009 at 8:39 am

    “Never take a Duke player”

    Come on Pete. What about Carlos Boozer, Grant Hill, Dahntay Jones, or Elton Brand? Have you ever seen Gerald Henderson play? He’s got crazy athleticism and last year developed a mid range jumper? He’s kind of like a Blake Griffin lite.

  18. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 8:40 am

    I could point to comments by CC if I wanted to that proved he liked and supported Girardi…but wait, he threw him under the bus, no?

    I just think you’re picking and choosing what comments are “good” and what are “bad” based on whether you like the player..

  19. Betsy June 25th, 2009 at 8:40 am

    Wait, Tex’s comment was nowhere near how you paraphrased it…..

    He was a little fired up,” Mark Teixeira said. “There was no yelling, Cash isn’t that kind of guy. But he was here; he wanted to make himself known. … Sometimes the principal needs to show up in the classroom if the teacher’s having trouble with the students.”

    **IMO, Tex was putting this on the players/students, not Joe/teacher.

  20. 86w183 June 25th, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Good thoughts on the NBA Draft Pete, I agree with most of them especially Thabeet who is a poor man’s Mutombo.

    Except Lawson at # 8 would be WAY too high… and Gerald Henderson is going to be a very good NBA player.. a shorter Grant Hill with healthy feet. I thik it will be Henderson, Curry or Jrue Holliday for the Knicks

    No question Girardi managed the whole game… where do these trolls come from?

    It’s just a start towards offensive health, nothing more.

    Funny we had an extended debate about Swisher vs Francouer yesterday and both went out and homered. Anyone wanna debate ARod vs Chipper and see if they both go yard? lol

  21. Betsy June 25th, 2009 at 8:42 am

    That’s ridiculous, Wait, because I like CC….I’m not going to change your mind, though, so ……

  22. Steve B June 25th, 2009 at 8:42 am

    “Steve, you missed my point. There are people actually crediting Pena for that – which think is ludicrous. Then again, the same people think Tex’ comments mean Joe has lost the clubhouse……….”

    I’d lean towards crediting Braves pitchers and Brian McCann. I agree Joe G being tossed had nothing to do with the bats waking up a little. As Teixeira comments, I don’t know. Only he can say what he meant. I do think it’s a little tellig that Cashman felt compelled to fly to Atlanta and address the troops.

  23. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 8:42 am

    “Sometimes the principal needs to show up in the classroom if the teacher’s having trouble with the students.” seems clear to me…whether the students were bad or not, it’s up to the teacher to keep them under control.

  24. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Betsy-Who says you won’t? I’m surprisingly open minded. :-)

    Glad you like CC, but it seems odd to me that with these two comments CC’s is clearly “bad” and Tex’s is clearly “fine”. I don’t get it.

    I have nothing against you, I just don’t get it.

  25. 86w183 June 25th, 2009 at 8:47 am

    Dundee Awards —- I agree with the positive comments about Gerald Henderson… but did you really mean to compare him to Blake Griffin?

  26. Th June 25th, 2009 at 8:51 am

    Harden won’t pass up big shots? Guess that because he is too busy running away from the ball in big games!

    Start Gardner!

  27. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 8:56 am

    I wonder if I scared away Betsy.

  28. Patrick from CT June 25th, 2009 at 8:57 am

    Pena is a great coach but I’m not so sure he could handle the pressures of being the Yankees Manager. He lost it in KC under a lot less pressure.
    Joe G has not been great but he has been better than last year. Remember he still learning too.
    If Pena can get through to guys that Joe can’t that’s great. It doesn’t mean he the better guy to be top dog.
    Let this season play out a little farther befor calling for Joe’s head.
    If the Yankees fall back to 4-5 games out of the wild card then maybe Pena takes over.

  29. Hokiehill June 25th, 2009 at 9:01 am

    not to jump into an argument, but my first reaction to CC’s comments were that he should have said those things privately to Joe and not to the media and was in essence throwing Joe under the bus. More comments came out yesterday that made me regret my initial reaction and showed that CC was not trying to send a message to Joe, but rather just musing on possible causes of the stiffness. Learning from that experience, Tex’s comments could be bent a thousand different ways, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one and place more emphasis on the students being out of line than the teacher needing help.

  30. Patrick from CT June 25th, 2009 at 9:02 am

    Cash did the right thing flying to Atlanta. What ever the message was. This team needs something to get going again. They’ve been sleepwalking since get their azzes kicked by Boston…

  31. Jordan June 25th, 2009 at 9:03 am

    Wait, have you seen Rubio play? Who cares if he can get off his shot right now? He’s 18 and has superb passing skills.

  32. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:03 am

    Hokiehill-I agree. What I was asking is why Betsy thought that CC was “throwing Joe under the bus” but Tex’s comments were perfectly fine…I didn’t ask to insult her or make a point, I wanted to know why the “double standard”…what makes these comments different?

  33. Hokiehill June 25th, 2009 at 9:04 am

    Either way, I personally like the way that Cashman handled the situation…I was wishing for the days of George calling out the team and sending a message that poor play would not be tolerated but I have to say I prefer Cashman’s approach…obviously much more professional which has always been the image the Yankees try to portray. Hopefully this is the start of a hot streak and just not a random win…

  34. Oh man June 25th, 2009 at 9:06 am

    “Never take a Duke player. Never.”

    exactly never do anything

    Bobby Hurley, Laitner, Shavlik Randolph, Jason Williams, JJ Redick, Josh McRoberts, Mike Dunleavy, Sheldon Williams… man the list goes on

    Only exception Elton Brand

  35. bru June 25th, 2009 at 9:06 am

    i think girardi should dh posada full time & catch cervelli.

    it is not because i think posada can’t call games or throw people out it is too get enough of a sample to compare & too change things up.

    i would hate to wonder at the end of the season if it might have made a difference.

    what do we have to lose?
    we know cervelli can handle it.

    i am not sure how much of a difference catchers make behind the plate.
    i don’t think anybody knows for sure.
    it is more of a feeling i get with cervelli behind the plate.
    the yankees did play their best ball with cervelli behind the plate & posada out.
    coincidence??

  36. Patrick from CT June 25th, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Win today and take 2 of 3 from the Mets will go a long way to fixing this June funk. Loose 3 of the next 4 and Joe’s seat is going to get warmer…

  37. Derek June 25th, 2009 at 9:08 am

    Did anyone ever report what the Swisher meeting with Cash and Girardi was about? (hopefully they told him that he’s gone when Nady comes back)

  38. Steve B June 25th, 2009 at 9:08 am

    “the yankees did play their best ball with cervelli behind the plate & posada out.
    coincidence??”

    Yeah, probably.

  39. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:08 am

    bru-Sample size. Baseball Prospectus did a study and concluded no discernible difference w/different catchers calling games. If I can find it, I’ll post it.

    If we DH Posada we lose Matsui and gain a far inferior bat.

  40. sjufan June 25th, 2009 at 9:10 am

    could not agree more on flynn! would like to see the knicks go there at 8 if he’s on the board. proven against major college comp. same with curry, who’d be a solid pick there as well.

  41. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:10 am

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....ner-field/

    “Nick Swisher has a tattoo guy in Atlanta – because, really, what modern athlete doesn’t? — and he inked Phil Hughes and Swisher after Tuesday’s game. Hughes chose the Bible verse Philippians 4:13 as a birthday gift to himself, and Swisher got the final verse of the famous “Footprints” poem. Both players had the script written on the inside of their left upper arms.”

  42. cs June 25th, 2009 at 9:11 am

    Bad job by Yes to show the pickoff blown call over & over instead of showing Girardi getting thrown out. Plenty of time to show the replay…

  43. Hokiehill June 25th, 2009 at 9:14 am

    bru, the lineup is considerably better with Posada and Matsui in there together. Cervelli has been great and I really like watching him play…hopefully the Yankees hang onto him and dont try to deal him when Molina comes back. I think the Gardner/gritty/gutty/youth factor makes Cervelli seem extremely appealing. I like his rapor with the pitchers, the way he calls games and his approach at the plate has been good. But I still feel that if you gave Posada a full season and Cervelli a full season that Posada would certainly end up the better offensive option with little if any detrement to the defense.

  44. Craig June 25th, 2009 at 9:15 am

    this is about as insightful as your MLB Draft predictions, which were really accurate.

  45. Mark in Tampa June 25th, 2009 at 9:16 am

    “the yankees did play their best ball with cervelli behind the plate & posada out.
    coincidence??”

    It certainly appears that they do right now. But, remember how Andy Philips and a few other young guys brought enthusiasm a few years ago. The Yanks looked real good for a while with that infusion, but over the long haul, the better talent will have more influence. The better talent is still Posada.

  46. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:16 am

    Actually, Posada has played excellent defense. Molina has in fact played the worst defense of the three (w/admittedly small sample size for Molina).

  47. bru June 25th, 2009 at 9:23 am

    i agree posada is much better offensively than cervelli but the rays didn’t score many more runs than they gave up last year,our 90′s teams scrapped runs together with good pitching,defense.

    i just think that when things aren’t going good that sometimes a change needs to be made for the sake of it.

    if we can look red hot & most tabbed us the best team in baseball with cervelli catching at one time why is everybody saying we can’t afford to lose matsui’s offense?

    i just don’t get it.

  48. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:26 am

    bru-Cervelli is not a good offensive player, that’s why.

    Over the long haul Cerveli’s weaknesses (he’s a bad hitter) would be exposed.

    Sports Illustrated did a study. They said the league’s best defender is only worth half as much as the league’s best hitter.

    The 90′s teams had great offenses. Don’t fool yourself there.

    We need to put our best team out there and it includes Posada and Matsui.

  49. bru June 25th, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Mark in Tampa
    June 25th, 2009 at 9:16 am
    “the yankees did play their best ball with cervelli behind the plate & posada out.
    coincidence??”

    It certainly appears that they do right now. But, remember how Andy Philips and a few other young guys brought enthusiasm a few years ago. The Yanks looked real good for a while with that infusion, but over the long haul, the better talent will have more influence. The better talent is still Posada.

    ——————————————————–

    with posada dh’ing his bat is still in the lineup,he will be fresher & we won’t need to rest him as much as a dh.

    i just can’t understand how we can look so good for a long time with vervelli catching & poeple saying it won’t work.

    matsui has not been a factor all year.

  50. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Matsui has not been having a terrible season.

  51. Giuseppe Franco June 25th, 2009 at 9:31 am

    The bottom line is that Girardi isn’t going to relegate his $13M DH in Matsui to sitting on the bench so that a backup rookie catcher can catch more games and his starting catcher can DH more often.

    As soon as Nady comes back, they’ll have another part time DH because who knows how much he’ll be able to play the field.

    I like Cervelli too. He’s been a very very pleasant surprise. But he’s almost certainly going to be sent down when Molina returns in the next week or whatever.

  52. Paco Dooley June 25th, 2009 at 9:31 am

    “Never take a Duke player. Never”.

    I have to agree – great comment, and not just because I am a U Kentucky graduate. Which Duke players have lived up to very high expectations? Maybe Grant Hill for a few years before his health became a huge issue, and maybe Hurley before his career came to a sudden end. But who has surpassed expectations (maybe Boozer)? It’s a bad sign when we could fill a long list with the names of players that were a bust or simply played well below expectations!

  53. Hokiehill June 25th, 2009 at 9:33 am

    G F, that’s what I don’t want to see…personally I would just assume get rid of Molina but if the return value is not there trade-wise it doesn’t make sense…of course if the Yankees are in any way looking at Cervelli as a long term option, more playing time in the minors makes more sense then being a filler in the majors.

  54. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:34 am

    Cervelli is an excellent backup right now. But he IS a backup.

  55. Hokiehill June 25th, 2009 at 9:35 am

    I agree with the never take a Duke player comment and it is strictly because I’m a Hokie…I can’t really get into the NBA. Honestly I think that is the one sport that isn’t even better live, at least not in the reg season.

  56. bru June 25th, 2009 at 9:36 am

    Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN

    then how do you explain our red hot streak when cervelli was catching & we were being called the best team in baseball?

    and explain last night.

    our offense is good enough now with cervelli catching & posada as the dh.
    don’t kid yourself.

    i don’t know what the answer is.nobody does but if i am the manager i would not be affraid or intimidated by posada to try something different.

    don’t forget posada is still in the lineup.

    i personally think girardi does not have the stones to go against posada.

    history has shown us that you need an offense that is good enough.

    the yankees,red sox,tigers great offenses accomplished exactly what over the last several years when they won nothing?

  57. Patrick June 25th, 2009 at 9:36 am

    How can anyone attribute the Yankees playing well to Cervelli catching? I think it’s more likely they won a lot of games because the entire team was hitting. Over the past few weeks the team has stopped hitting and *SHOCKER* the Yanks have stopped winning as many games.

    It really has nothing to do with Posada.

  58. Steve B June 25th, 2009 at 9:37 am

    “if we can look red hot & most tabbed us the best team in baseball with cervelli catching at one time why is everybody saying we can’t afford to lose matsui’s offense?”

    Better question is why you tie the Yankees streak of good play to Cervelli? In doing so you suggests the results may not have been the same had Posada been catching.

    Fact is that during that stretch from May 8 thru June 7, when the Yankees went 21-7, they were 9-4 in the games caught by Cervelli and 12-3 in the games caught by someone else.

  59. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:38 am

    bru-How do I explain? That’s baseball? Sample size?

    You’re trying to convince me that we’re going to do better w/a rookie ctahcer putting up good backup numbers than w/a potential HOF’er in the middle of a fine season, and I’m not buting it.

    So you’re telling me that the almost nonexistant defensive gain w/Cervelli is worth the massive offensive gain w/Posada?

  60. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:39 am

    buting is buying.

  61. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    “Fact is that during that stretch from May 8 thru June 7, when the Yankees went 21-7, they were 9-4 in the games caught by Cervelli and 12-3 in the games caught by someone else.”

    Excellent statistic Steve B.

  62. Hokiehill June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Bru, I wouldn’t mind seeing Cervelli getting more PT, but not more than Posada…if you want to catch Posada 3 games and Cervelli 2 that would only help Posada health-wise IMO. Or maybe 3-1. The real debate here is, is it worth it to send down Cervelli for Molina? Cervelli has already shown he has the chops to play defensively and certainly isn’t any worse than Molina offensively. Not to mention that he’s significantly younger and can be counted on for extended periods in the event Jorge goes down again (which Molina can not)

  63. bru June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    we should trade molina for a pen arm.

    it makes no sense for the yankees to pay him next year when we have cervelli at league minimum.

    trade molina & maybe nady for bullpen help.

  64. Giuseppe Franco June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 am

    This team was red hot because the starters were doing their jobs and the bats were smoking.

    This team still has very good starters when they are living up to their potential and the bats were all clicking at the same time.

    Now they’re slumping at the same time.

    Cervelli has been a spark, but he’s not the primary reason this team played really well in May.

    The team was just clicking on all cylinders – pitching, hitting, and even their defense.

  65. Ben June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Did you watch Rubio hang with Paul, Lebron, Kobe, etc last summers ? This kid is going to be special.

  66. Paco Dooley June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    “Never take a Duke player. Never”.

    I see some people list Brand as an exception, but I say no way. OK< he's a quality NBA player that should have been drafted somewhere in the lottery, but you have to keep in mind that he was the number 1 player taken that year. He's had decent stats in the NBA, but he is not an elite player. You expect the number 1 overall pick to play in more than 2 Allstar games in a 10 year career.

    That makes him a bust as a draft pick (though perhaps he was still the best talent in that draft – 9 players have been Allstars from that group, but none have had superb careers, except perhaps Ginobili).

  67. JENNIFER June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Do you forget the other games that Jorge caught when the starters gave up 3 runs and we lost?

  68. Brandon W June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Bru,

    Couple of points:

    First, Cervelli is likely only doing as well as he is because of his limited exposure. Remember, he was hitting ~.190 at AA. He is not going to be a .300 ML hitter over the course of a full season.

    Second, to respond to why the Yankees won more with Cervelli catching during that stretch… correlation does not imply causation. There were other factors at work; just because Cervelli was catching doesn’t mean he was the cause of how the entire team was playing.

  69. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 25th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Repost:

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....ner-field/

    “Nick Swisher has a tattoo guy in Atlanta – because, really, what modern athlete doesn’t? — and he inked Phil Hughes and Swisher after Tuesday’s game. Hughes chose the Bible verse Philippians 4:13 as a birthday gift to himself, and Swisher got the final verse of the famous “Footprints” poem. Both players had the script written on the inside of their left upper arms.”

  70. Steve B June 25th, 2009 at 9:45 am

    “it makes no sense for the yankees to pay him next year when we have cervelli at league minimum.”

    Molina’s contract expires after this season. Don’t think he’d have much trade value.

  71. Giuseppe Franco June 25th, 2009 at 9:45 am

    Having some depth at catcher is a very nice problem to have. Especially when you consider both Molina and Posada have spent time on the DL.

    Don’t underestimate how good Molina is behind that plate. No, he can’t hit to save his life but he’s the best defensive catcher on the club.

    And the pitchers love throwing to him – especially Burnett.

  72. 86w183 June 25th, 2009 at 9:46 am

    You gotta think Matsui is down to his last half season or so in pinstripes. He’s been severely limited for three of the last four years after three outstanding seasons to begin his Yankees career.

    I still think Damon will return and DH about half the time while Posada, Arod and others take turns getting half days off. A real key for next season will be whether or not Austin Jackson is ready to play every day. If so either Gardner or Cabrera can be packaged with a young arm or two for a top set up guy or corner OF prospect.

  73. pat June 25th, 2009 at 9:48 am

    Alex got a big hit last night but it was one at bat and it was 4 fastballs pumped in, nothing fancy. A step forward but just a baby step. Miles left to go.

    Yet, Alex says he feels refreshed and Girardi sounds like he is is questioning the day off guidelines already. I hope the “Principal” steps in again to save the Teacher and Pupil from themselves.

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....d_the.html

  74. bru June 25th, 2009 at 9:48 am

    Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
    June 25th, 2009 at 9:38 am
    bru-How do I explain? That’s baseball? Sample size?

    You’re trying to convince me that we’re going to do better w/a rookie ctahcer putting up good backup numbers than w/a potential HOF’er in the middle of a fine season, and I’m not buting it.

    So you’re telling me that the almost nonexistant defensive gain w/Cervelli is worth the massive offensive gain w/Posada?

    ———————————————————–

    i am not trying to convince you of anything.

    i am saying that girardi should not be affraid of trying something different.

    i am also not advocating taking posada out of the lineup.he would dh,he will be fresher because he is not catching,we might see more offense because he is the dh & how much more of his contract can he catch as a 38 year old catcher before his offense takes a hit if it has not already happened?

    at the very minimum i think we should trade molina for a bullpen arm & keep cervelli as a backup catcher.

    this might allow us to hang on too a few more prospects in a trade for a pen arm.

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    matsui’s knees can only take so much, he’s hobblin’ out there, so he will have more off days so they can squeeze in cervelli, DH Posada

    ————–

    He’s already had about a week off because of all these games in NL yards and he’s going to get four more before they are done with that part of the schedule.

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    “Catchers don’t grow on trees.”

    Think it’s more true to say that catchers who can hit don’t grow on trees.

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    Because the MLBPA is NEVER going to give up the DH, that’s why.

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    “I know they MLBPA would be against it, but if you gave them a 26th roster spot and expanded the 40-man roster to 42 that might be a trade they’d make..”

    My bad. Missed this piece of your post. MLBPA would not even agree to this because DH’s make real money. They don’t want to give that up in favor of a 26th player who is likely at or around the league minimum.

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    Steve B,

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    The Yanks know that better than anyone with so little production from their backups in recent years:

    Wil Nieves, I-Rod, Kevin Cash, Chris Stewart, Chad Moeller, Sal Fasano, Kelly Stinnet, etc, etc.

    None of these guys hit for the Yanks, but several were less than stellar defenders too.

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    Anyone other than me astounded by the endless hypocrisy of ESPN. The home of some of the most strident commentators about how steroid users can never get into Cooperstwon is now glorifying the return of Manny Ramirez.

    I swear these SOBs would give Bin Laden his own show if they could find the sponsors.

    AS for canning the DH I think the end of the steroid era will also mark the end of the big money, one-dimensional DH and the MLBPA probably realizes that, too. It’s certainly worth a try. Eliminate the DH in A ball in year one, AA in year too, AAA in year three and MLB is rid of this outdated gimmick by year four!

    By the way, Mariano’s AB last night was a riot!

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    I like Lawson, but Rubio is like 6 inches taller. Who will Ty cover?

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