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Yankees seeking input from fans

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 27, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This is interesting. Hal Steinbrenner has sent out an e-mail to selected season-ticket holders inviting them to critique the new Stadium and their experience to team officials in person.

They want the feedback so much that they’re willing to bribe the fans to participate

The note reads:

We are extending a personal invitation to a limited number of people, to either meet at our Preview Center in Rockefeller Center or at Yankee Stadium, before or after a game, so as to spend a few minutes telling us how we are doing and how we can make the “Yankee Stadium Experience” even better.

We want you to tell us exactly what you think about the food, the merchandise, the game day personnel, and the entire “Yankee Stadium Experience” from the moment you enter the Stadium until the moment you leave. We want to know what you like best, and what may have disappointed you.

Most importantly, we want the truth.

In fact, we are so interested in what you think, we have a great gift reserved for you if you participate. Your gift can be selected from the following:

• a $200 gift certificate for use in a Yankees Team store;

• a $200 gift certificate for NYY Steak (our new steakhouse at Yankee Stadium);

• an opportunity for you and three guests to watch batting practice from the field for a select game; or

• an autographed baseball by a current or former Yankees Player

We have several dates and times open, thus simply select the session date, time and location that is most convenient for you – either at Yankee Stadium, just before or after a game, or over lunch or at the end of the day at the Yankees Preview Center, located at 30 Rockefeller Center.

Our Stadium interviews will take place on July 5, 6 and 18.

If the Yankees actually pay attention to what people say, this will be worthwhile.

UPDATE, 12:38 p.m.: As usual, the eloquent posters to this blog are making some good suggestions about the Stadium in the comments section. Hey Yankees, here is some feedback that doesn’t require $200 in free steaks.





170 Responses to “Yankees seeking input from fans”

  1. Rebecca--Optimist Prime June 27th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    It’s interesting how this offer extends only to season ticket holders. And not to Joe Fan.

  2. Elsron June 27th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    have any season ticket holders even ben to a game yet?

  3. Ramey June 27th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    It’s an interesting concept, but it’ll be more interesting if the Yankees actually listen to the fans and bring about the changes brought up

  4. David June 27th, 2009 at 11:32 am

    It would make a lot more sense to get feedback from non-season ticket holders (aka the real fans)

  5. Giuseppe Franco June 27th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    They listen to feedback.

    It didn’t take them too long to go from “our prices are our prices” to “1/2 off” on box seats.

  6. Fran (the original) and OPPC member June 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am

    It’s a start. Maybe they’ll ask others after they have interviewed the season ticket holders.

  7. Bronx Jeers June 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am

    Maybe Hal saw the last live chat?

    There’s a bunch of problems.

    One of my major issues is the sound.

    I used to shake my head at the old stadium as the speaker system basically consisted of one giant tower in CF.

    Somehow it got worse.

    Go to ATT Park in SF. Whatever they’re doing, copy it.

  8. Hokiehill June 27th, 2009 at 11:38 am

    i love how the first four comments attack the Yankees for doing this and cant seem to give the brass just a little credit…whether they listen to the comments or not this is a step in the right direction IMO…we attack the media so much for never taking the positive out of anything the Yankees do…the funny thing is, they’re probably just following the fans’ lead

  9. Drive 4-5 June 27th, 2009 at 11:41 am


    “real” fans include us blue collar folks who saved all year to attend Yankee games in the summer. We had seats in the Tiers, not the main boxes. Don’t confuse the majority of season ticket holders at the old Stadium with the fatcats sitting downstairs.

    After getting screwed out of our Saturday Plan that we had since 2004, my first trip to the new ballpark will be this coming Thursday and Friday. Usually we would have attended at least 6 games by now. I’d be more than happy to let Steinbrenner know what I think. I’ll be fair about the ballpark. I’ll also be honest about the way the Yankees treated thousands of folks like my family. I welcome their effort to finally take some feedback.

  10. pat June 27th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Good for Hal using his background and translating it to another hospitality type of industry.

    Customer Loyalty programs are done all the time in the hotel industry. It’s easier to keep a customer than find a new one.

  11. lazycrochet June 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    What they need, but will never happen is a retractable dome so they can play in all kinds of weather instead of making the fans sit through a five hour rain delay. Bet the season ticket holders weren’t there for that.

  12. Rebecca--Optimist Prime June 27th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Hokiehill: Mostly, I’m peeved that since I’m not a season ticket holder, I can’t partake.

  13. Joey's Poodle June 27th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Sorry, didn’t notice new thread and posted this to the end of the old one. But I think it’s worth repeating.

    For those of you who were not alive at the time, a reminder:
    one reason people thought those uppers the troops brought back into civilian life were okay was that it was the government who distributed them to the forces. If it was good enough for the greatest generation, if the government gave them out like candy, what could be so bad about them?

    A lot of things are different today but a reminder of why those particular PEDs had such an aura of respectability may make some of the younger crowd realize where that attitude sprang from.

  14. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    It’s a step in the right direction by them

  15. pat June 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am


    You are an eloquent young woman.

    If you have something to share that you think would help the Yankees, make a phone call, send a fax or write a letter.

    Joe Fan should be happy to help and doesn’t need no stinking bribes to want to make the stadium experience better. :wink:

  16. ditmars1929 June 27th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Oh wow, Hal, that’s so wonderful of you!!!

    My preference is not feasible. I want the old stadium back, which you shouldn’t have destroyed in the first place, but your insane greed got the best of you.

    But if you want a critique of the current one, I’ll tell you this.

    I’ve been to one game, and only got to go because they were company tickets since you’ve decided to price me out (And I am a former season ticket holder, thanks). When I got home, my wife asked me how the new place was and the first thing out of my mouth was, “I don’t ever want to go there again.” Then I went out onto my balcony and drank for two hours to wash away the experience.

    I felt like I was at a child’s birthday party from hell at Chuck E. Cheese. There were so many distractions, particularly that electric screen that wraps around the entire facade and the never-ending blare of the PA system, that it’s impossible to focus on the game.

    Regarding the food, I’m there to see a ballgame. I don’t give a damn about your fancy restaurants. If I want to have a nice steak, I’ll go to a steakhouse, Hal. Hotdogs and a reasonably priced beer are fine. Speaking of something being reasonably priced, I won’t be buying your merchandise either.

    I have found your personnel to be very pleasant. Not so helpful, but at least pleasant. I’ll give you that.

    Adding insult to injury, when I left your new hell hole, I got to walk past your old “cathedral” being razed down on my way to the 4-Train. Thank you oh so much for that.

    Fellow posters, so sorry for the rant, but I am sincerely angry. I bet some of you might even agree with me.

  17. Vrsce June 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Are you suggesting that the Yankees would go to all this effort simply to ignore the input they receive?

  18. SJ44 June 27th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    This is a positive move. Folks wanted the Yankees to do something about the stadium. Its pretty clear they know there are issues and are looking for fan input to prioritize those issues in an attempt to resolve them.

    Seems like the right thing to do, IMO.

  19. gayle June 27th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    This is a very nice thing but I alo have to wonder what ticket holders were sent this email. Was it just full season holoders, was it just those siiting in the pricey seats. I would hope that they would take input from all level of ticket holders and all levels of seating areas as this would be the only true measure of how all people feel about the new stadium as each area and each plan would excperience different things.

  20. MaineYankee June 27th, 2009 at 11:55 am


    Did you get that e-mail?

    If so I’m sure you will get alot of input from here. :lol:

  21. SJ44 June 27th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Joey’s Poodle,

    Excellent points. Its why I laugh and ignore people who say, “greenies aren’t PED’s”.

    More players have used greenies over the history of the game, several of whom are Hall of Famers who were addicted to them during and after their careers, than have used steroids and HGH.

    Somehow, that gets lost in the rants by many members of the media when they decide who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame and who doesn’t.

  22. DB June 27th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    I wonder what other ball park has done this for fans. Those gifts listed are quite impressive. I’ve been to the stadium four times this year and my only gripe other than the shorter dimensions and low fence is the same old Bronx Hospitality. Concession workers are slow. The first exhibition day I was greeted with “Welcome to Yankee Stadium” my 3 other trips weren’t as nearly gracious. Not flat out rude, just a little Bronx ‘tude.

  23. Giuseppe Franco June 27th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    The new Yankee Stadium was Hal’s insane greed?

    Uh, not exactly.

    It was George. Period.

    Hal and Hank didn’t really want anything to do with running this team but were forced into it because of George’s declining health.

    I personally think they are going to sell the team within a few years after their father passes.

  24. Cash is King June 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Let’s face it, the baseball media is made up by a lot of hypocrites. For the most part, 10 years ago they kept quiet about PED usage and now they’re outrage about what happended to the game. What a bunch of phonies.

  25. ditmars1929 June 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    Giuseppe, I realize that. It’s George and his ego desperate for a “legacy” before he drops dead, so he had to tear down the old place. I only mentioned Hal because he’s the one out with the offer, and it’d be a bit of a waste for me to address everyone all involved at the same time.

    I agree with you about the family selling once George passes.

    I also think Gayle makes an interesting point about who actually got that email.

  26. G. Love June 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    I actually like the new place.

    I like the cupholders.

    I like the staff walking around with signs asking if you need help. They are all very very nice whenever you ask them for anything.

    The food isn’t great and all the concessions could use a 20% price cut. If they were smart enough to do that across the board and publicize it they would end up making more money on concessions than they currently do (which I know is a lot).

    A gesture like that could generate a lot of good will from a fanbase that feels shafted.

    The seats are better and more comfortable.

    The bathrooms are nicer and people don’t have to go in the sinks here like they did at the old stadium, something that pretty much kept me out of the bathrooms at the old stadium I might add.

    What I will agree agree with is the pre-programmed noise. It’s like going to see a hockey game on steroids.

    I don’t mind the trivia questions or the subway races, but do we need to see every drunk in the building dancing every night? It’s pretty much sending a message to little kids that acting like a buffoon when they play music is applauded. I’ve taken my little nephews to a few games and you can see them wondering in their heads is that how I’m supposed to act to hear cheering?

    I’m sick of that nonsense just as much as I’m sick of Cotton Eyed Joe which needs to be mercy killed. It never belonged in NY and needs to go away. People don’t ever like it. They just like clapping. There are 1000 other songs they can clap to.

  27. James June 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    “I personally think they are going to sell the team within a few years after their father passes.”

    I agree with that.

  28. DB June 27th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Maybe if writers stop calling them greenies and actually call them what they were, amphetamines, people would care a little more. Every child in America is educated on the classes of drugs from 7th grade on. I don’t remember hearing about “greenies” but sure do remember about amphetamines.

  29. Holezo June 27th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    1. Move the RF walls back
    2. Uncover Monument Cave
    3. Take the moat out
    4. Get rid of he Legends seats
    5. Allow people to move freely through the concourse like Citi Field
    6. Do something to improve the crowd noise

  30. m June 27th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Good Morning, everyone.

    -Hope the Yankees can extend their winning streak. Everyone in the east is raking and they can’t afford to lose any ground.

    -Stop with the Melky/Gardner bashing comparisons already. We need them both playing well. Cashman doesn’t know what he’s talking about, though. lol. I have a question, though. Did Cashman specifically exclude Gardner or answer a question by excluding Gardner? Or did Pete clarify by saying that the Yankees best lineup doesn’t include Gardner?

    -Just because PEDs don’t help (supposively, look at the last 14 years worth of MVPs), doesn’t make it right. Need to find another argument, folks.

    -Want a trip down memory lane? Check out this article on Jeter. Verducci wrote about how Jeter had New York in the palm of his hand in the winter of 2000. It seems so long ago, they might as well have had the after-party at Studio 54. ;)

    Even if you’re not a Jeter “fan”, it’s a great article that kind of recapped the Subway Series Championship.


  31. Carl June 27th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    They must improve the food. The Food has been a major disappointment, especially compared to Citi Field.

  32. Arizz June 27th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Well at the time, Cashman was right— our best lineup does not have Gardner in it. Now that Melky has cooled off, that has changed.

  33. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    June 27th, 2009 at 11:32 am
    It would make a lot more sense to get feedback from non-season ticket holders (aka the real fans)


    Perhaps the Yankee Brass actually thought about asking for all fans’ input, and read some of the message boards and blogs, then thought better of it. There are some of the really idiotic complaints by both fans and media. Seriously, some of these are coming from people with only one oar in the water.

  34. DB June 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Where IS the public outcry?

    Read this and pay particular attention to the PED section

  35. Giuseppe Franco June 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm


    George wasn’t the perfect owner but it was his team and he could do whatever he wanted with it.

    And building a new home was at the top of that list.

    You could solve all your issues by not going to the games.

    I’ll say this much, Yankee fans are very likely to get a big league reality check if and when the sons sell the team.

    The Steinbrenners always did whatever it took to win and will spend more than anyone else.

    But the next owner may not be so generous.

    And Yankee fans will finally understand just how spoiled they really were during George’s reign.

  36. SJ44 June 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm


    I did and my suggestions were the following:

    1. Got to do something about Monument Park. Its a shrine to the franchise and it has to be placed in a more prominent and accessible area of the facility.

    2. The RF fence has to be moved back 10 feet and raised another 10 feet. They may not be able to do anything about the wind tunnel but, they can make it a little fairer.

    3. Use the “new” RF wall to create an out of town scoreboard so all the scores are displayed.

    4. Do something about the moat. It creates too much of a ruling class atmosphere around that area and its unnecessary. Every stadium has exclusive seat like this now. How its seperated is the issue. I would look for a way to make it less “exclusive” if that makes sense.

    5. Re-adjust the pricing of ALL seats due to this new economy. Less investment bankers can buy expensive seats. Conversely, less regular folks can buy ANY seat because times are tough. Bring in a consulting firm (my is available! lol) to re-adjust the ticket prices, making it more accessible for everybody to go to a Yankee game.

  37. Rishi June 27th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Buster responds to his Arod article from Thursday:

    • Got a lot of e-mails from readers about the Alex Rodriguez column on Thursday, and it’s worth addressing some of the concerns/questions/anger.

    First: What I wrote was not my own perspective; it reflected a perspective of scouts and executives who work within the sport. It’s a statement of fact that executives and scouts are asking the question of whether he is less of a player now because he presumably doesn’t use steroids any more. And it’s being asked about other struggling players, as well.

    Second: In no place in the column did I accuse Rodriguez of using steroids this year. It’s a statement of fact that he used performance-enhancing drugs in the past. He told us that.

    Third: It’s a statement of fact that nobody knows how much better Rodriguez was because of the drugs. It might not have made much difference at all, it might have made a difference. Even A-Rod — the only person who knows exactly what he took and when he took it, and in what dosage — has no idea. And from the Yankees’ perspective, this is difficult, because they are left to make a performance evaluation while operating in an information vacuum.

    Fourth: Yes, of course, the fact that he had hip surgery could be the reason for his struggles; it’s mentioned right there in the middle of the column.

    Fifth: It’s a statement of fact that throughout baseball, skepticism about player performance among players in their mid-30s is growing, and it will continue to have a direct impact on how teams assess what contracts to offer players.

    I’ve written many times in the past that my own great regret about my own steroid era coverage was that I didn’t write how executives, scouts and players thought steroids were impacting the sport. I got hung up on trying to pin down the name of one user, rather than write about the larger impact.

    This is just one example of how steroids are affecting the sport. Nobody knows for sure if the poor play of the guy who was seen as the best player in the game two years ago — the game’s highest paid player — directly stems from his hip surgery, or if it’s related to his past steroid use. This is part of the Steroid Era fallout, whether we like it or not.

    A-Rod clubbed his 11th homer, and second in his last two games, and the Yankees hammered the Mets; this was A-Rod’s 564th homer. Reggie Jackson approved, writes Ken Davidoff.

    CC Sabathia was dominant, as Jack Curry writes. Sabathia keeps pitching deep into games, and John Harper wonders if this will catch up to the lefty and the Yankees at some point. Totally agree with John on that point; the Yankees need to save bullets for Sabathia when they can, and Friday night’s game presented one of those opportunities.

    Sabathia is every bit the ace as advertised, writes Mike Vaccaro.

  38. DB June 27th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Holezo, that about sums it up. Although the left field wall is also shorter compared to the old Stadium, just not as dramatic. 2 people who havent hit HR’s in over a year barely got it over that wall (can’t remember their names)

  39. Matsui 55 June 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pm


    Yep… such is the life of a tough division. Forget gaining ground, we have to win every night just to keep ourselves from losing ground it seems.

  40. vinny-b June 27th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    “1. Move the RF walls back
    2. Uncover Monument Cave
    3. Take the moat out
    4. Get rid of he Legends seats
    5. Allow people to move freely through the concourse like Citi Field
    6. Do something to improve the crowd noise”

    the above should be copy/pasted 1000 times. And then sent to NYY management

  41. m June 27th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    99 pitches is deep into a game?

    Maybe Olney should’ve written the article on the struggling Ortiz, who’s hit 7 of his 8 homeruns in this month alone. Because whomever wrote it went out of their way to give every excuse but steroids.

  42. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    The Steinbrenners aren’t going to sell the Yankees as long as they are making an insane amount of money. Divide the profits of a sale by at least 10 people and, although more money than you and I will ever see, it isn’t the amount they see now….not to mention the prestige. They are still their father’s children. Ego is still the most powerful force.

  43. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pm


    1) Change the batter’s eye/monument park combo.

    2) Improve the food. Johnny Rockets and Brother Jimmy’s are great outside of the park, not so much inside the park. However, the Garlic Fries are amazing.

    3) Fire Sterling

    4) Change the digital scoreboard’s fonts to match the old scoreboard in Yankee Stadium. I think that would go a LONG way to make centerfield feel more like the old stadium.

    5) Fire Sterling

    6) Keep as many of those people who ask “How May I Help You” and hire more if possible. They were GREAT.

    7) Fire Sterling

  44. raymagnetic June 27th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Season ticket holders > Joe Fan.

    People who spend more money with establishments often get special treatment.

  45. DB June 27th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    I always chuckle when a writer realizes how much of a bonehead they were and try to explain themselves in another article. Proof positive that they screwed up.

  46. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    BTW -

    The economy has to improve MASSIVELY before anyone has the cashflow to purchase the Yankees at what they are worth. Hal and Hank are going to be running the team for at least the next 5-10 years.

  47. raymagnetic June 27th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Also, what makes people think that season ticket holders aren’t also Joe Fan?

    I think you have to be a big fan to purchase a season’s worth of tickets. You must like the team a little, no?

  48. ditmars1929 June 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Guiseppe, I am solving my problems by not going to games anymore, but that’s the problem because I’d prefer to be there. That’s the whole point of this thread isn’t it?

    Now I get to sit at home and listen to MKay. Lovely.

    I bet you’re right about that wake up call when the Steinbrenners sell out. That’s gonna hurt.

  49. DB June 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Matty, Sterling is better in doses. He just needs someone to spell him. They need to fire Waldman and replace her with someone who can share innings and actually give intelligent and informative color.

  50. James (one of the many) June 27th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    This get the input of “joe fan” over people with full and partial plans is not realistic or, in my opinion, a better judgment than that of the people who are, you know, attending the most games and partaking in the stadium experience consistently (vs joe 2 games wants to rant). If they are only asking the people with plans in the moat, than they have missed the mark, but lets not pretend that there are not thousands of other big plan holders in all the areas where “joe fan” sits for his 2 games.

  51. Tom B June 27th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    if you are chosen, you are required by law to tell them that the YMCA sucks and we don’t want it anymore. we are in New York City, home of some of the hottest women on the planet, and they have a bunch of dudes running around on the field doing the YMCA? PLEASE.

  52. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    If Buster Olney needs a chalkboard full of calculus just to figure out BJ Upton, he’s gonna need freakin’ Stephen Hawking to understand A-Rod.

  53. Rebecca--Optimist Prime June 27th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    pat: I did try the writing them about ticket prices back in September. I never got a reply.

    Dude guys, check this photo out. It comes from happybeau on

  54. Bronx Jeers June 27th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    What’s wrong with the food?

    Based on the lines at the concession stands I would say that it’s too good.

    Get rid of the art gallery. And the Steiner store.

  55. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:30 pm


    You’re right. I didn’t ming Sterling when he was paired with Steiner, in fact, I loved the combination.

    Suzyn Waldman is awful and unprofessional, and I’d prefer her in limited doses or as a beat reporter. Not as a color person.

  56. Bo Knows June 27th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    I wouldn’t go euphoric about the offense just yet. Alex has looked a lot better in this last week, but the others. Other than the present in the second inning, there wasn’t much offense until the BP made an appearance. They let Pelfrey off the hook. The game was still in doubt until the seventh. Still bad at bats, 3 outs on 8 pitches, etc. Still brain cramps at the plate. Melky with bases loaded in the second – 3 and 1 count swinging at a ball out of the strike zone. Other at bats were just as bad. As soon as they get to Yankee stadium they’ll be stat padding again or waiting for the seventh inning to get involved. Trot out a junkballer and they turn into windmills. Frustrating

  57. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Rebecca -

    Regarding that pic, when does Gozer show up on top of the Mets’ home run apple?

  58. raymagnetic June 27th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    “Sabathia keeps pitching deep into games, and John Harper wonders if this will catch up to the lefty and the Yankees at some point. Totally agree with John on that point; the Yankees need to save bullets for Sabathia when they can, and Friday night’s game presented one of those opportunities.”

    He pitched 7 innings last night and threw less than 110 pitches if I remember correctly.

    How many innings do John and Buster feel CC should be throwing?

  59. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Bronx Jeers -

    Not ALL of the food is bad. The garlic fries, the hot dogs, a lot of things are quite good.

    But when we were at Yankee Stadium, Johnny Rockets was “slimy” as compared to the rave reviews Shake Shack’s been getting at Citi, and I love Brother Jimmy’s BBQ (hell, I had an engagment party there) but the Brother Jimmy’s in the stadium is awful.

  60. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Call your frieds and neighbors. Tell them to watch, and be amazed.

    A-Rod has returned.

  61. Rishi June 27th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    the sky last night was crazy – the entire bar went out to check it out. I got some pics, but none as cool as that shot :) i do wish it was at Yankee Stadium and not Citifield, though

  62. Tom in N.J. June 27th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Sweet a Gozer the Gozerian mention on LOHUD.

  63. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    ditmars –

    You are a bitter fan. Your solution is to tear down the stadium and keep playing at the dated, cramped, and dirty ballpark next door.

    I’m sorry, Old Yankee Stadium looked great on TV, but as a fan, getting around it SUCKED.

  64. Mike June 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    I want the old “blue” back on the walls. The dark blue is so “Shea”, every time I see the OF walls it looks like Shea Stadium!

  65. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Tom in NJ:

    Apparently, last night’s game began with Swisher saying, “OK, let’s show these prehistoric Mets how we do things uptown. THROW!”

  66. A fan June 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    I can sya from myexperiences at the stadium I loved it. I thought it was great, and I had no issues.

  67. A fan June 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    sya is say.

  68. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Mike -

    OOOOH, yes! Bring back the royal blue. I don’t like seeing navy blue all over the place in Yankee Stadium, there’s too much of it.

  69. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 27th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Anyone know how Sterling called the Gardner HR yesterday?

  70. Bryan V June 27th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    The new stadium will never get a “fair shake” from older fans. Those fans will always see it as the building that led to the demise of the great, historic, old Yankee Stadium. And for that reason, they will always condemn the new Yankee Stadium.

    How about seeing the new stadium as just that…a NEW stadium? Forget about old Yankee Stadium, and simply review new Yankee Stadium.

    Too many comments, even some here, sound like grumpy old men upset that the “old days” are over with.

    To believe that the execs with the Yankees are unaware of what the “common man” thinks is ridiculous. Even though the Yankee brass may not be completely in tune with all of their fans, they’re not dumb enough to totally ignore all the bad press the new stadium has gotten either. Now the execs want to hear what fans have to say in person, and not behind screen names on the internet.

    Perhaps after they listen to the selected season ticket holders, they’ll move on to other fans too. I don’t think any of us truly expected them to reach out like this, so I think they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt.

  71. Giuseppe Franco June 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    I’m of the opposite opinion. I didn’t care for the royal blue. I like the dark blue better.

  72. Matty June 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    I just wanted to add… Kate Hudson, giggling, with the brownish/reddish/blondish hair last night? OUTSTANDING. She looks so much better without the pure blonde hair.

  73. A fan June 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    The Stadium’s bad press is alrgely undeserved. It’s a wonderful place to watch a ballgame.

    Tip: If you don’t mind standing, just buy the cheapest seats in the park and stand behind home plate, you’re allowed.

  74. A fan June 27th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Ugh, now alrgely is largely.

  75. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    My friend went to the stadium and loved it.

  76. CB June 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    “He pitched 7 innings last night and threw less than 110 pitches if I remember correctly.”

    He threw 99 pitches last night.

    That’s why that last outburst of offense was so important. It game them the luxury of getting CC out of the game instead of going back out for the 8th.

    99 pitches – how is that a problem? Once again reporters aren’t bothering to check facts.

    On the whole however this is an issue and Girardi is going to have to manage it better.

    There’s this perception about CC that he’s almost this bionic pitcher.

    And that’s just not true. His comments this week about throwing 120 p

    Up until his that last start where he got pulled with the soreness in his arm CC was on pace to throw 250 innings this year. 250 innings.

    They just can’t do anything close to that much with him.

    It was fine in the begnning of the year for Girardi to look to CC to get the team innings as the pen was so bad.

    But the pen has really stepped up.

    Say the yankees didn’t score in that last inning. Why couldn’t Bruney or Hughes pitch the 8th or even 8th and 9th up 4-1 against a mets line up that was a AAAA lineup?

    Much has been made out of CC not being a “big game pitcher” due to his post season starts.

    There’s little doubt that a major factor in how he’s pitched in the playoffs is the ridiculous work loads he’s absorbed in the regular season.

    That was brutally apparent last year in the game he threw against the Phillies. He looked awful – physically awful that game. He had nothing. And that’s because he put the brewers on his back for weeks just to get them into the playoffs.

    Olney and anyone else pointing to his work load last night are just wrong. Last night – 99 pitches – is exactly the kind of game they need to give him on a much more regular basis if they want him to dominate in the playoffs.

  77. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    June 27th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
    “Sabathia keeps pitching deep into games, and John Harper wonders if this will catch up to the lefty and the Yankees at some point. Totally agree with John on that point; the Yankees need to save bullets for Sabathia when they can, and Friday night’s game presented one of those opportunities.”

    He pitched 7 innings last night and threw less than 110 pitches if I remember correctly.

    How many innings do John and Buster feel CC should be throwing?


    Sabathia threw 99 pitches through 7 innings. The media was left with nothing but Rodriguez to complain about. Sabathia’s under a 100 pitches, and, not burning up the pen. Nothing left to wite about.

    Damned…how about doing your jobs and developing real stories. They’re going to wring their hands about the dirty, dishonest publicity hungry Rodriguez and the abuse of Sabathia that their fingers are going to fall off. what happens then? They’ll need a job where their self importance as “keepers of the game” won’t do them any good. They’ll be reduced to selling pencils and apples on the street corners.

  78. Bronx Jeers June 27th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Well, Danny Meyer’s a Met fan. Hence Shake Shack. There’s also supposed to be a good fish place there.

    It does seem like the Mets trumped the Yanks in the food dept but we do have Lobel’s.

    It is cool that both stadiums utilized local restaurants but I’m fine with dirt-water dogs. It’s a baseball game. You’re not supposed to have foie gras stuffed duck breast.

    Actually I wouldn’t mind an Atomic Wings kiosk.

    Note to Hal. Peter Max gallery out – Atomic Wings in.

  79. MikeinBH June 27th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    complete the outfield external limestone facade by covering up the openings in the upper deck…there is a great photoshop of this on

  80. jimbo June 27th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    “Season ticket holders > Joe Fan. People who spend more money with establishments often get special treatment.”

    Anyone read the article in the times with season ticket holders whinging on and on that prices are too high and they aren’t recouping enough on the secondary market? Absolute disgrace. I don’t feel bad for these season ticket scalpers.

  81. DB June 27th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    I recommend the nachos at the stadium. Damn good. I ate a full one of those and didn’t mind the Yanks losing to the Phillies for 4 innings.

  82. DB June 27th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    MikeinBH, I think your link is broke

  83. Toast June 27th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Here’s some advice for Hank and company: Knock off the ghestapo crap during God Bless America. It’s not the national anthem and nobody should be compelled to listen to it. If people want to leave their seats to go to the restroom or grab something to eat or otherwise move about while it’s being sung, that should be their prerogative.

  84. Tom B June 27th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    the sandwich shop in the food court behind home plate is phenomenal too… and did someone up there actually complain that johnny rockets was… slimy? hahahahaha its a friggen burger place, it’s called grease, get out from under your rock and learn2enjoy food

  85. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    “Ghestapo crap?” You may have a point about people being allowed to move but I think requesting that people stay in their seats during the playing of God Bless America is not quite as bad as the Ghestapo.

  86. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Has anyone been to Citizen’s Bank Park? I’m going to Philly next month and I wonder if the tour is worth doing……thanks!

  87. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Why do a tour at any ballpark? You can save cash if you research then go early and walk around on your own.

  88. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    CC would have pitched last night had the Yankees not scored, probably because CC was undoubtedly begging them to let him hit….They shouldn’t have let him, I agree, but this has been a problem with the Yankees – they let their players dictate their actions. Damon doesn’t want to get his shoulder examined? No problem. Alex didn’t want to sit? No problem. CC wants to hit in the late innings? No problem……..It’s a terrible way to run a team.

  89. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Betsy, you have a point. They do seem tto trust the players a bit too much.

    However, I can’t blame Joe for sending CC back out there if we didn’t widen the gap a bit.

  90. Jeff NJ - Yankee Fan in Good Times and Bad June 27th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    There needs to be more sit down restaurants for average fans. There is one above the bleachers off the LF area in the suites level that looks to be an outstanding place to have a family meal and never miss a second of the game, but it is for suite people only and is inevitably empty.

    Also there needs to be an elevator in LF for people other than suite goers.

  91. RS June 27th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    If the Yankees want to get fan input about the stadium, why not create a simple satisfaction survey that is distributed to all fans on the way in and can be dropped off in a ballot box, similar to the ASG voting?

    The survey can test satisfaction with a number of things (ticket pricing, seat views, food, Monument Park, etc.) on a 1-5 scale and then allow room for comments.

    It doesn’t seem to me that this would be a difficult thing to arrange.

  92. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Wait, I’m not going to a ballgame. The tour is only $9.00 …….

  93. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    In that case, no idea. Never been to Citizen’s Bank.

  94. tommy h June 27th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    haha, i love how the “real fans” on this board thnk that season ticket holders are not real fans- how do you possibly figure that?

  95. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Wait, I don’t think Joe can keep sending CC out there just because he’s a big guy. The pen has to be used – that would have been a good situation for Phil or Bruney as CB said. CC gets slammed for his game against the Phillies last year, but by that time the poor guy was exhausted. If the Yankees can’t trust the pen with a 4-1 game in the late innings, they have problems.

  96. Bryan V June 27th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Ballots handed out at games is not a good idea at all. It wouldn’t be any better than simply coming here, to River Ave. Blues, Bronx Banter, or any number of Yankee blogs and reading the comments.

  97. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Tommy, it’s the same theory that holds that rich people can’t be true fans – it’s a reverse discrimination type of thing.

  98. Jason June 27th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    CC has a clause in his contract that he has to have I think 10 ABs, FYI.

    Yanks probably figured he would get 9 of them in interleague play and could give him one towards the end of the season. But he only has 3 now.

  99. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Betsy-That’s the thing-we DO have problems. Bruney was not himself last time out (for what it’s worth, Hughes should be the set up man, Bruney the seventh inning guy).

    Anyway at 99 pitches 1 more inning probably would have worked out fine anyway.

  100. John June 27th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    1. the speakers in the new stadium suck. you can’t really hear any of the players batting music. the only thing that comes through is the PA announcer announcing who is batting.

    2. Lower the ticket prices, which they are never going to get out of season ticket holders because obviously they are wealthy enough to buy them in the first place. so that was not an issue for them

    3. Lower the price of food. It really is rediculous.

    4. Have more on field games in between innings instead of just games on the jumbotron like the “great subway race” and even get rid of YMCA and Cotton Eye Joe. Those are lame. Do something to actually get everyone involved. Minor league teams do a 3432423 times better job doing this why can’t they do it at the major league level.

    5. And that is leaving out the walls, which need to be pushed back and raised. It would be refreshing playing in a park like Turner field where you don’t have to hold your breath every time a fly ball is hit

  101. m June 27th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Hughes can’t be a set up guy pitching every 3 or 4 days. I’m torn. I’d rather keep him stretched out on a regular schedule, but that does nothing for the team. One thing is clear, they’re not sending him to Scranton.

  102. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    I HATE Turner Field. I like NYS way, way more than Turner Field.

  103. cgs June 27th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    CC does not have anything in his contract regarding 10 at bats. Where the hell did you come up with that?

  104. m June 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Walk & a blast to start the game, 2-0 Phillies over Toronto.

  105. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    June 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
    CC would have pitched last night had the Yankees not scored, probably because CC was undoubtedly begging them to let him hit….They shouldn’t have let him, I agree, but this has been a problem with the Yankees – they let their players dictate their actions. Damon doesn’t want to get his shoulder examined? No problem. Alex didn’t want to sit? No problem. CC wants to hit in the late innings? No problem……..It’s a terrible way to run a team.


    Sabathia is as good as any hitter that they had on the bench, outside of Jeter. It would have wasted a bat needlessly. Sabathia in the 8th inning is better than whatever NYY could have replaced him with. Once the score was 7-1, there was no point in keeping him in the game. the Mets didn’t have the fire power to score 6 runs that late in the game.

    It wasn’t “letting the inmates run the asylum”. It hasn’t been, anyway. You ask your people if they can give a little extra and you take the word of those you trust. If you don’t, you won’t keep the trust they have in the leadership. At that point, you may as well just shut the doors and go home.

  106. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Honestly, I’m of the opinion that we worry about next year next year. Joba’s innings limit will be higher, so we can afford to have Hughes on an innings limit next year anyway. If the Yanks are keeping him here, he has to start pitching more often or you undermine his value.

  107. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Wait, that was one outing for Bruney – and he hadn’t pitched in several days. I like the guy – I would expect him to be ok. No one is a bigger Phil fan than I, but I would not put him in the 8th inning role yet.

    M, right now Phil is a caddy for Wang, so that limits when he can pitch (this is not to say I like it, I don’t – Phil needs to pitch). I do like that the Yankees are going to be careful with him – he’s ok to pitch back to back, but they will count any game where he warms up and doesn’t come in as a game. That’s the right way to handle Phil – he’s in the pen, but he’s not a reliever. He hasn’t been trained as such – they’ve got to protect his right arm and it has nothing to do with babying him.

  108. tommy h June 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    I’m a 27 year old guy who makes less than 50k and idiotically spend way too much $ on yankee tickets- I split 2 season tickets with a buddy- we divide up the games into about 20 i get both, 20 he gets both, we go to 20 together and sell 20 or so-

    tickets are not more expensive for the cheap seats than they have been the last 2 years. Also, this year you can buy tickets in the bleachers (ours are grandstand) and you can stand directly behind home-plate. It’s a much better value this year than in years past, and in my opinion if you want to go to a game you certainly can. Mets tickets were going for $50 bucks this year, thats the cheapest i can remember in the last 3 years-

    not sure if I qualify as a real fan or not…

  109. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Matsui is a better hitter than CC. Perhaps CC WOULD be better if he hit every day, but it’s unfair to say that CC is a better hitter than Matsui.

  110. G. Love June 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    The other thing I really like is being able to pre-pay your parking and choose your lot to park in before game time online.

    Of course trying to get to the lot itself is an adventure filled with Police street closings, but it’s nice knowing you are going to the game and you know exactly where you get to park.

  111. m June 27th, 2009 at 1:19 pm


    I disagree. If Andy’s not coming back and Hughes is going to replace him in the rotation, then it should be a priority to build up his innings.

    Let Aceves do what Phil is doing now.

    I’m all for Phil helping us in the pen because it’s been so bad, but I hope it’s temporary.

  112. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Everybody loves Bruney, and he’s done very well, but he is starting to gain the reputation of injury prone. They gave Joba the eighth inning role, and Hughes has done great. I think it’s time to stick him there.

  113. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    GB, good points about CB. I certainly agree about the trust factor…..but if a player gets hurt, I would expect the Yankees to get them examined whether or not the player wants to. It’s not helpful to the player to play injured and it’s not helpful to the team (though in general, I agree about the trust factor).

  114. jimbo June 27th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    I’m sure many season ticket holders are “real fans.” But for some of them to be complaining about not turning a profit on stubhub is pretty lame and not worthy of a sympathy article.

  115. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Hughes has been dominant in the pen. Even if we had a great pen, he would help us a TON there. You can’t worry about next year when he could be a very valuable bullpen piece now.

  116. m June 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pm


    Are you whack? I’m always telling you to stop worrying about them babying Hughes. I didn’t say that at all.

    That’s fine to keep Hughes attached to Wang, but despite what Coney said last night, that having 3 long guys provides some versatility, I’m leaning towards stretching him out. He’s at about a third of his IP limit.

    I’m looking to next season because it’s becoming more and more apparent that Andy doesn’t have much in the tank.

  117. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    What’s wrong w/being a season ticket holder? If I were filthy rich I would be.

  118. Real Jets Fans Stand with Chad June 27th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    I didn’t know that Danny Meyer was a Mets fan, but the real reason that Shake Shack is in Citi and not Yankees Stadium is because food vendors like Johnny Rockets and Brother Jimmy’s had to PAY (big time) to be in Yankees Stadium. For Citi, it was free. Most food vendors were outraged that they actually had to pay to be in Yankees Stadium, a very uncommon practice.

  119. tommy h June 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    John, I agree with some of your points, but not all- the speakers are out of whack quite often, that is a good one-

    In terms of lowering the prices, it really is supply and demand- but lowering the prices behind homeplate, other than filling up the stadium which would be a plus, doesn’t really affect many people (still out of their price range) with the grandstand still priced at 20-25 and bleachers at 12, i don’t think you can really complain about prices too much as compared to previous years

    The food i don’t have a problem with- considering you can bring stuff in if it is too expensive for you. It is much better than last year- the sliders and fries for 10 bucks fills you up everytime and there are tons more options

    Agree the in between innings stuff is lacking creativity-

    My biggest pet peave is the integrity of the stadium, which I don’t know how they fix-

  120. hugs June 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    I think Hughes should start
    Joba in the pen.

  121. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    M, I didn’t direct any of my posts to you…….I have no clue why you have to call me whack based on my general comments, but whatever.

  122. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    “Are you whack?” Ha ha.

  123. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Betsy, all the doctors could tell Damon about his shoulder was that it was bruised. He’s been banged up so much in his career, he’s quite likely to know as much as the doctors. Like Mantle, Jeter, Rodriguez and others before him, he knows the amount of pain/discomfort he can deal with. It’s not like the Yanks were able to play somebody else. Damon and Cabrera were both banged up at about the same time.

  124. Brandon... "R.I.P. King Of Pop" June 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Wait, for this yr. I think he can be the Jonathan Papelbon of this team.

  125. m June 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pm


    Who wrote the 1:17 post?

    M, right now Phil is a caddy for Wang, so that limits when he can pitch (this is not to say I like it, I don’t – Phil needs to pitch). I do like that the Yankees are going to be careful with him – he’s ok to pitch back to back, but they will count any game where he warms up and doesn’t come in as a game. That’s the right way to handle Phil – he’s in the pen, but he’s not a reliever. He hasn’t been trained as such – they’ve got to protect his right arm and it has nothing to do with babying him.

    I was joking about the whack. Sorry. :sheepish grin:

  126. Rishi June 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    new post

  127. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Yeah, real funny because I think Phil should be pitching….actually, I have no idea what I said wrong, but hey – I’m not getting into an internet fight about Phil Hughes.

  128. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    I nevr got the “integrity of the satdium” thing. I think people were telling themselves before it opened, “I don’t care, it’s not the same” and then jumped on stuff like “it doesn’t have the same feel to it”. I don’t buy it.

  129. Jackson Melian Big Time Bust June 27th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    the stadium is great, those that hate are snot faced boogers

  130. Brandon... "R.I.P. King Of Pop" June 27th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    It prbly works like this, Yussssse stays as long reliever/7th or 8th inning man this season, Joba works as a SP and next season continues w/ his innings increasing, more experience more stronger. Yussse is used like Joba is this yr.

  131. Former Tier Season Ticket Holder June 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    I’ve made it to a couple of games, but we were shut out of season tickets – same story so many here and elsewhere have told. We had tier reserved in U6 for Sundays for the last few years. We hoped for something similar. By the time they got around to us, all they could offer were packages downstairs that were so far out of our price range it was ridiculous, or a midweek package in the bleachers – which would be very difficult for those of us who have to travel 3 hours each way for games.

    As for the Stadium, my experiences have been good. I learned long ago to get pizza or a sandwich outside before going in so I haven’t tried too much of the food. The cheesesteak I got was $10, but good. I enjoyed the garlic fries. Yes, it’s all overpriced, but people are buying it so who am I to tell them to charge less? It’s great to have big rest rooms with few if any lines, unlike the old place. I like seeing the game from the concourse when I do get up and walk around. I wish they’d fix monument park (how hard would it be to keep it open more, anyway?), add dedicated out of town scores, fix the sound (turn it DOWN, mostly so we could have some slight chance of talking to others), keep the count and score up in more places (yes, even between innings!), and do something with the pricing to keep the field level full and with the passionate fans who will make the new place start to feel like the old place.

    And finally – do something to help save part of the old Stadium. The Save Gate 2 plans look wonderful. It amazes me that in a project that cost so much as this, we might not find a way to save just a little bit of the building that has meant so much to so many people for so long.

  132. tommy h June 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Wait till they come to our house-

    I meant the actual playing field. I don’t like the coors east thing- that’s what i meant by inegrity of the stadium- should have said integrity of the playing field

  133. Betsy June 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    M – sorry, I really thought you were serious!

    Hey, I agree with you. I don’t like Hughes being a caddy for Wang…I don’t like how the Yankees are handling him, period. He has to be saved for Wang’s starts, so in between he can go what, one/two innings tops? I would prefer that he be stretched out, but that’s not happening anytime soon. He’s also not really a reliever – they have to be careful with him- so I don’t see how he can be a regular 8th inning guy. Like you, I think Andy is nearing the end – but he will never in a million years be replaced.

  134. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    tommy h-Oh. Okay.

    That’s really an opinion thing. Personally, I have no issue w/it being HR prone.

  135. SJ44 June 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Didn’t take Buster long to go into retreat mode on his Arod obit column! lol

    Here’s the thing….

    Buster Olney is too good a reporter to just print gossip. That’s what he did with his premature, professional obit on Arod.

    He can’t fall on the, “I’m just getting info from baseball sources, its not MY opinion”. First off, if you talk to scouts, or sit with them during games, which I do often, you will hear more stuff about guys in the game than you ever would want to know. Almost all of it comes with an agenda and a LOT of it is gossip and nothing more.

    He wrote it because at least part of those comments ARE his opinion. He just used the “baseball people say” stuff as a shield to take another shot at Arod.

    Its very conveinent to call sources who are Anti-Arod and/or Anti-Yankee, get some juicy quotes and put them on your blog.

    However, when you do, its YOUR responsibility to flesh them out and see if there is some truth to them.

    How about calling Arod’s hip doctor, who seems to enjoy granting interviews, or another hip specialist and/or PT to find if IF his slump COULD be related to his hip surgery?

    Wouldn’t that be a more complete blog entry than the gossip entry he had the other day?

    What media folks have failed to realize is, Arod has more fans than detractors. He really does.

    Don’t believe me? How did Selena Roberts’ book sell? The supposed, slam dunk best seller tanked. It tanked because people, many of whom are Arod fans, believe there is an unfair piling on with the stories about him.

    Arod isn’t the only professional athlete who is a diva. He also isn’t the only player who admitted to PED use. Heck, ESPN is CELEBRATING the return of one (Manny) nightly, without a HINT of anger about his PED use. Its one, big party! Its also one, big hypocrisy from the Clown College of Bristol, CT.

    I think people have caught on to the agenda and are showing their anger about it by not buying Selena’s book and flooding Buster’s inbox, which I understand happened the last few days.

    If Buster believes some of the stuff he wrote the other day, then he should ask the “unnamed baseball people” to put their names on the story.

    Its only fair. Even in a court of law, you have the right to face your accusers.

    If some of these so called “baseball people” believe Arod is shot because of PED use, put your name on the story. Show some guts. Don’t hide behind the reporters shield.

    If they won’t do that, Buster and others need to do a better job of fleshing out fact from gossip.

    He did a poor job of that the other day. That’s why he wrote the backpedal story this morning.

  136. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Hughes will take Andy’s spot next year. Joba will be able to pitch more innings, so we could deal w/Hughes on an innings limit.

  137. GreenBeret7 June 27th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
    June 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
    Matsui is a better hitter than CC. Perhaps CC WOULD be better if he hit every day, but it’s unfair to say that CC is a better hitter than Matsui.


    Sabathia had two solid at bats out of his first three. I’d prefer a Sabathia with a relatively low pitch count in a 3 run game over anybody besides Rivera. It also gave Hughes, Coke, Bruney, Aceves and Robertson an extra day of rest. They’ll all be ready for the next two games. They’ll certainly be needed in at least one ofthem.

  138. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC June 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    I wonder if there will be Youuuuuse Rules.
    We should make shirts

  139. Joey's Poodle June 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Two reasons for limiting the first round of direct comments:

    1. Most season ticket holders are people who want to be sure they have the opportunity to go to games frequently. (That doesn’t mean every game, necessarily, and they are free to do whatever they want with the seats they paid for on the dates they’re not going to attend). Their comments likely come from people who’ve been to the Stadium a few times, so they’re actually informed opinions, and who plan to go regularly in the future, so they have an actual stake in making the Stadium a good place to be. “Joe 2 games” has been to only one game so far, so he has little experience of how the new place works, and he’s only going to go to one more, so he doesn’t have a tremendous investment in making it better.

    2. A lot of casual fans don’t pay attention to what they’re being asked. Look at the responses here — where you would expect more than casual fandom — and you see a lot of extraneous comments about things that don’t actually affect the Stadium experience. Like radio announcers. If people are at the game they are not, I hate to break it to you, worried about the old man on the radio who can no longer tell what is happening on the field and just breaks out into some call he remembers making in the past.

  140. DCStack June 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Ditmars1929, this is not an attack on you at all so please don’t it as such. If I owned the team I would not want you as one of my patrons when there are others willing to buy the seats. Your attendance at my games brings in the least amount of money possible for my franchise reducing my profits and hampering my ability to put the best quality team out on the field possible. If I can have someone in your seat that will buy the merchandise and eat the steaks then I would take them over someone who simply wants cheap beer and dogs and nothing else. This is a business. Period. Fans with your approach do little for my business.

  141. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    GreenBeret7-I agree that I would want CC over anybody but Mo pitching. But hitting I’ll take Matsui.

  142. DB June 27th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Tommy H., I like your facetiousness on questioning your “realness” as a fan. I went to opening day spending 350 a seat in the grandstand to take my daughter. I’d do it again in a heartbeat to witness the opening of the Stadium. The guy next to me was doing exactly what you just described. It’s a great idea. I tried to do something similar, but I only wanted a Sunday package. Unfortunately, the Yanks weren’t really offering that package in the Grandstands this year.

  143. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    I would have been really disappointed to see the Yanks get smashed like that.

  144. DB June 27th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Actually Joey’s Poodle, Sterling is piped through all the concession stands while you are watching the game. So, it is a little pertinent. Really though, he was just kidding. If people only posted about the topic in the thread Pete wouldn;t be so popular.

  145. Jackson June 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    They should definitely let fans watch BP in the outfield before the game. I know they do that, but they seem to close it off about 90 minutes before the first pitch. When I went to Citi Field, they let the fans stay in the outfield until 30 minutes before the first pitch (by which point BP was over). It was a lot of fun watching BP there, and I do think the Yankees can learn from the fan friendliness there.

    Also, do we really need ushers guarding every single entrance? Wouldn’t it just do for them to guard the really expensive seats, like they used to do? If a seat’s not being used, why should someone who paid slightly less not be allowed to sit there? I hate to bring up the Mets again, but their ushers only guarded the lower deck.

  146. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN June 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    My friend said that he was sitting in his seats down the right field line watching BP right up till the first pitch.

  147. Marty Funkhouser June 27th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Now that he’s dead and he won’t embarass himself anymore and we can kind of sit back and look back at a completed body of work, I vote EMPHATICALLY to get a Michael Jackson tune, prefibly “You wanna be starting something” with the big african breakdown.

    Thats clapable, fresh, a little classic and a little new and would be a great new tradition.

    Cotton Eye Joey should be driving opposite Jim Leyritz late at night.

  148. GaryM(Yanks and More) June 27th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    I take offense to all the people here talking about the real fans being non season ticket holders. This just isn’t true, i have had season tickets for 8 years now and always sat in the upper deck, all of us up there in the old stadium were real fans that got screwed with the new stadium. Some of us were lucky enough to get tickets but like me got moved way out to the outfield, yes a lot of ticket holders down below are not real fans but this isn’t all the season ticket holders.

  149. ditmars1929 June 27th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    DC Stack, absolutely no offense taken. I respect your opinion.

    I understand it’s a business and you buying steak and jerseys and me buying a dog and a beer make you a better customer from the owner’s point of view. I was speaking from a fan’s point of view. But you’re also quite a bit short sighted.

    I used to be a season ticket holder. That’s bread and butter for the owners. Now I’m not, because I was priced out. You think ownership shouldn’t value that business that I used to give them because I’m not buying expensive meals and merchandise today??? Would you, as an owner, rather have me go to every game and buy a hot dog and the occasional souvenir ball for my son, or completely alienate me and have me only attend only one game a season because I think you’re screwing me? You work out the profits on that and let me know what you think. Then tell me how all the empty seats account for a wise business strategy.

    Always go for the profits, yes, but go for the smart profit and never alienate your fan base. That’s marketing 101, should you not possess a business degree.

  150. The Commish June 27th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Isn’t this as simple as the Yankees have info (Name, address, etc) on file for the season ticket holders?

  151. DCStack June 27th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    ditmars1929, the problem is not whether I want to keep you or lose you. Of course I want to keep you. But if I am the owner and I have a finite number of seats available to fans then I want the best paying fans in those seats. If the seats are not selling then I want you there. If they are selling then I want you to want to be there, but I really want the other guy who is spending more money.

    I am personally much more like you than the big spender. I live in Philly and make it to about five or six games a year. I planned to buy a Sunday package this year only to not have it available. I was very disappointed but I don’t blame the organization. I understand they were going for the biggest money grab they could. I still will go to six or more games this year (four down and at least two more to go). Bottom line, if this brings in more money for the team then I can count on them continuing to spend for the best possible team. I will always go to some games. They could play the games in a cesspool and I would still go. For me it is about seeing my team, not the packaging it comes in.

  152. Rob June 27th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Money finds Money – but the Yankees are missing it on their sample selection. I don’t think there are any luxe amenities the season ticket holders are missing. The Yankees are catering to a C-Level and Finance-based economy in NY/CT and it’s on the skids. The high-rollers are getting real and that effects the Field level seats and suites. The Yankees need to get real like everyone else, and the Dubai-style spectacle is over for the time being.

    Here are some thoughts about the experience.

    Brands are important, the Yankees have a phenomenal brand and the most valuable enterprise in sports – for the love of god stop talking about allowing kids to walk down among the field level seats before the games as diminishing the brand, tired of hearing it. Baseball is a working man’s game and although my job and network of contacts gets me good seats and the occasional suite experience – stop calling seats between the bases “A once in a lifetime experience,” it’s really put a bad taste in everyone’s mouth- no seat in the park other than inside the dugout should be rarified air. If in fact that’s the reality – you should be humbly looking to rectify it rather than promoting it. Those box seats are owned by corporations who right off the expense as T&E or bill the cost back to clients – no one should think that 10,000 individual millionaires are buying all those seats, they’re not and this year many of the company’s can’t justify it – show some common sense.

    The charm of the Yankees beyond the mystique and the rings was Phil Rizzuto and the cow, the grounds keeper planting tomato plants in the bullpen. It’s that community feel of the Knights of Columbus. It’s the generosity of rewarding fans who sit through 7 hour rain delays with a new ticket (not to mention that the fans come back and pay for food and parking). It’s the generosity of the team to Virginia Tech, veterans and the occasional family from the Bronx that loses it’s home to fire. Get rid of Cotton eye Joe and YMCA – stop making it so loud – stop making it so Vegas.

    The new stadium is finding it’s new personality right now – and the slew of walk-off wins and never-say-die come from behind victories are becoming the new storyline – build the brand of the future on that – the resilience of the Yanks in this new stadium – tie it to the hope of the future and the renewed prosperity of the city and nation – remember that America feels strongly about the Yankees and that feeling could be love or resentment – find the love again.

  153. GMAN June 27th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Color of the Stadium – looking too much off-white in the structure.

    Bring back the old stadium shade of blue to the outfield walls.

    Improve the sound system.

    I like Sterling…but prefer another voice within the stadium.

    Love the “How can I help you” People.

    Love the “Thank You bull-horn People” outside as you depart the Stadium…and the helpful folks that direct/guide to subway or L platform.

  154. Rob June 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Oh yeah – forgot the ludicrous taking the cap off policy with security at the’s a coarse and unnecesary measure on top of all the other intrusive measures designed to make us feel safe.

  155. GMAN June 27th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Clarification on the “too much off-white in the Structure”

    looking at the steel supports in the outfield…the off white…just looks like it’s unfinished…ran out of paint.

  156. Donald June 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    i can’t afford the prices right now i have to be honest. I also have to be honest i prefer watchin the yanks on the road because it feels like i’m watching a real baseball game. The new yankee stadium is great on the eye- but its a little gimmicky. The PA sound is obtrusive. It all seems a little distracting, the real purpose here is watching the yanks play baseball… i don’t understand this ‘new YS experience’ thing. We’re not goin to Universal Studios to go on the Jurassic park rides- thats an ‘experience.’ Watching a baseball game is just that- its traditional, its about the game its self. The old stadium and older stadiums have cottoned onto that, and the atmosphere is generated through the excitement of 45,000 fans side by side cheering their team on and anticipation is built through the game itself. Not through distracting screens in centre and obtrusive music levels. They don’t need to try that hard to get people excited about watching the yankees. Real fans get excited just watching the yanks play- and the product and players on show is already exciting enough without manufacturing an ‘experience’ through mass restaurants and advertisements wherever you look. Its why baseball stands out from most all sports- yankke stadium shouldn’t try to be different- which its trying to be, its not about the STADIUM its about the team. Anyway, the atmosphere has definitely suffered…even citi field trumps ours interms of fan noise- fenway wipes the floor with ours interms of fan noise…thats the reality. And thats what a park should be based on, it should be based on home field advantage- intimidating the opposing players into playin in the cauldron of 45,000 yankee fans in the greatest city greatest team on earth. The old stadium had that- this one doesn’t, opposing guys are like- ‘hey it looks cool, we get a massage hotel like dressing room…and ooooh look at that right field i’m goin to have fun aiming at that for three days, and there’s no noise from the home fans even better.’
    which leads to the main problem-
    RIGHT FIELD- i hate the stadium because the way it plays. A homerun is supposed to be max excitement, now its expected. You see more homers than singles at this stadium, a pop up can make the outfield sweat that its clearing the wall. They HAVE to build a wall in right, and move it back atleast 10 feet. HAVE to…its already affecting the mindset of our pitchers, Pettitte himself said upon his start before last where he went 7 outstanding innings, that if he was at home about 4of his pitches would have been homeruns. Joba for instance is terrified of throwing a strike at the new stadium.
    Also we need to do something about the monuments- its a ridiculous idea having it hidden away- we should be proud of our history- play on it, don’t hide it away out of sight.
    Just a quick thought, maybe not playing society wars within a stadium and having kate hudson at the front with the leather seats playing with her hair and twirling it around her finger…while the real fans are sectioned off into the distance like cattle- maybe this stadium would be a better experience for joe fan. Just a thought.
    ANyway finally, the yanks are trying to do too much with this stadium. They want this place to be the centre of all activities,eating merch, and an occasional b-ball game.
    On the plus side, the field itsself is gorgeous, the inside is magnificent, its grand scale and impressive. But it seems the yanks brass went for style over substance- you can’t even see the scores from other games-(imagine we’re in the situation where the yanks are a game behind in the east from the sox on the final day, and both teams are playin at the same time…imagine if you can’t see the score from the other game) fans won’t want to spend lavish sums to watch a cheap homerun derby. So this offseason they need to do whatever they possibly can to make this stadiums ingame atmoshpere improve, and focus on the baseball not the$200 steak house.
    Anyway its long winded and i apologise but its important they fix things.

  157. whatever June 27th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Bring back the simple old Stadium scoreboard display. “Ball,” “Strike,” Out,” being the dominant pieces of information on display. The things you need to know about the actual game. It shouldn’t be so hard to find.

    And lose the hokey fight-like-men film clips every half-inning when the team is trailing.

  158. smflan June 27th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Maybe if the yankees install vibrators in the legends seats,
    the fans might sit through a game for once and the stadium won;t look so empty.

  159. Joe Blow June 27th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    How about cheaper seats!?!?!? You bigots!

  160. Ian June 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    The giant net surrounding the field blocks the batter at home plate, in the grandstand sections closest to home plate. I want to be able to see the game.

    Also, they should have day of game stubhub booths at the stadium. They have some good last minute deals, but you need to be in front of a computer, not actually at the stadium!

  161. Ray June 28th, 2009 at 2:53 am

    Dear Mr. Steinbrenner:

    I read here that you and the Yankee organization were interested in hearing from select season-ticket holders inviting a critique of the new Stadium. I also understand you want honest, candid comments telling you exactly what is good and more importantly what is not working with respect to the entire “Yankee Stadium Experience”. I am not looking for any free gifts, just the chance to be heard.

    The fan base – Season ticket holders cannot go to every game. An important reason why you were able to draw 4 plus million the last few years was that in addition to full season and partial ticket plans, customers were able to buy and sell tickets on the secondary ticket market. In addition to corporate fans, you had small business owners and other fans with disposable income in the premium field seating areas of the old stadium. This combination kept the seats occupied and helped season ticket holder pay the up front cost associated with a season plan. Fans and ticket brokers can re-sell a $175 – $200 seat. However, they can’t re-sell a $350 -$1250 seat. As the small business owner is the backbone of the nation’s economy, they are also the backbone of your customer fan base. Everything flows from the fan that can pay about $175 – $200 for a seat in the infield. Other fans may do it once or twice a year from the secondary market. At the present prices, corporations that own premium seats are the only part of the fan base that can afford to buy and pass tickets onto their employees and others keeping the seats filled throughout the season. Few individuals and small business owners can afford to pay for or even sell tickets on the secondary market. Like US Steel and GM, the Yankee brand is destined for future failure if you continue to price out future generations of fans. Along with a positive game day experience that includes the ability to get close to the field, proper pricing that allows fans to use the secondary market will help keep future customers coming back to see a game at the stadium. In addition, you need to be more creative with payment options. While in Dallas recently, I noticed that they are marketing the remaining Cowboy tickets as $1600 down, $1300 a year! Basically, they are allowing fans to spread out the payments. The Yankees should do something similar.

    “Premium” seating areas – All new and re-modeled stadiums have premium seating areas. In addition to Yankee Stadium and CitiField, I’ve sat in a number of premium seating areas throughout the country (again because the price was such that I could afford do it on an occasional basis). However, most are from on deck circle to on deck circle. Not all the way down the foul lines. This expanded premium area helped create the fan anger with the relocation process. The premium seat should be from on deck circle to on deck circle in the field and main levels only. You will still have the access to and from the seat area to the Legends Club.

    Tear down the wall at the dugouts and price the seats behind the dugouts closer to what they were at the old stadium. This allows a greater number of your customer fan base to have access to these seats both as season ticket holder and through the secondary ticket market. For the non-premium seating near the dugouts, you can offer club access on a full or limited game basis but don’t force it. Let the fan decide whether to pay for their food and soft drink each game or subscribe to a full or partial meal and club access plan. To help ensure that the seats are filled when the game starts, stop serving food in the Lounge 15 minutes before game time and begin seat food service after that point. If fans do not want to mingle with other fans and want to stay indoors and watch the game on TV then they should be on the suite level, not the infield area seats.

    Obstructed view seats throughout the building – We all know about the building in center field and the obstructed view seats in the bleachers. By now you have probably heard from the other fans throughout the stadium that are angered by the other obstructed views throughout the building. The raised bleacher platforms that obstruct the seats in both left and right field grandstands areas (i.e., sections 135 and 104). The handicap platforms that obstruct the infield or outfield view for fans in the next section. The steel columns on the second level obstructing the views of the infield or outfield. The stair and front railings throughout the building that partially block the views of fans in every level of the building are also a major problem. There was no excuse for this in a 21st century design. A fan who can’t see the whole field does not wants to hear the excuse that other stadiums also have obstructed views. Each stadium project should learn from the mistakes made in the project that came before and make the necessary improvements. The important thing now is to correct each of these problems.

    Seats – As you move down the foul lines, the seats do not face the mound as they do in other new ballparks I visited throughout the country. Instead, they face short center field making the customer turn their neck or body to see the pitcher and the batter. With the flat seating bowl this is a real problem. Each seat must have a clear view of the pitcher and hitter. Therefore, the seats need to be angled correctly once you pass the bases. With that, the aisles will also be moved especially behind the foul poles. Placing wider aisles behind the foul poles will help with some of the seats that are obstructed by the poles.

    The Restaurant – It’s an eyesore that along with the “moat” has come to symbolize the belief that the Yankee organization values revenue streams over the dignity of the average fan. While expensive, this symbol along with the “moat” past the on deck circles must be torn down.

    With a little imagination, you can have the revenue stream without obstructed views. You can still have fans stand above the bleacher area in an air conditioned room and pay $90+ for the privilege. One way would be to relocate the Mohegan Sun Restaurant to the area now occupied by the left center field scoreboard area. Instead of the 3 large ads that section would be the front of the party suite (maybe a Brownstone design). Remove the Yankee Stadium letters and replace the smaller ads in that area with an outdoor concession and standing area with at least 20 or more rows of bleacher seats (aka Wrigley Field). The total height would be less than the current building. The distance from home plate is not the issue. It’s the party atmosphere as evident in Chicago that fans would pay to be part of. Access would be via stairs, elevator, and a bridge from the grandstand concourse. Best of all it won’t interfere with any of the other bleacher seats. The Yankee Stadium letters could be moved to the right center side of the scoreboard along with a copy of the frieze behind the lettering to help soften the skyline behind the letters and better see the sign. In addition, the Yankee Top Hat logo symbol (much like the 1961 scoreboard) can sit atop the frieze between the two words (much like the all star game symbol sat on the banner in the old stadium). Also, a replica of the water tower that dominated photos of the outfield area of the original and post war stadium with more ad space could sit atop the roof top party area. Other ads could be relocated above and below the party suite and in other parts of the stadium such as the stair wells (using screens that allow the fans to look out from the stairs to see the game but you see the ads from the field. This could also be used at each end of the scoreboard. This will help get away from that concrete and steel look of the new building. Another concession facility with smoked glass could be constructed and used as the batter’s eye. However, this time the building would be pushed all the way back between the bleachers. While the view from this facility would be obstructed by the bleachers, the idea here would be for someone to get a quick something to eat, or drink in a bar area and still see part of the field. Also, those who choose to spend most of their time in this area as well as the new roof top party area can drink and watch the TV screens while being in a separate area away from fans with families, especially small kids in the bleachers.

    Monument Park – The history and tradition of the franchise should be the showcase and focal point of the outfield area. For this there should be no compromise. Right now, Monument Park is hidden behind a wall, under a building, covered under a veil of netting and a black tarp. It looks more like a storage area than a shrine or place of honor.

    Monument Park should be located in first bleacher section in left center next to the new batter’s eye. This will also allow for visitors throughout the game. It would be on three levels with the entrance under the left field bleachers starting on the first level where the 5 monuments and the original plagues of Ruppert and Barrow would be located. The next level would feature the retired numbers and the third level would feature the other plagues, flagpole and the exit (this will keep a straight line going in one direction as well as being handicap accessible). The Monument Park area would be much like a triple tier bullpen. With Monument Park raised above the left center field fence (flowers, but no trees or solid fences to hide the history), above and behind the left center field wall this historic area will now be the focal point of the outfield area. Monument Park will now be visible from the field, on camera, and throughout the stadium. Monument Park will again become a valuable marketing tool to be used by the team; inviting viewers on YES and national televised games to visit and tour the Stadium. Monument Park is too important to hide in a closet or restrict visitors. Like the Yankee Top Hat logo atop the scoreboard in right center, Monument Park in left center, will be recognizable to all out of town markets on the MLB, ESPN and YES televised games and highlights clips. I travel to our field offices throughout the country and speak to managers from every state, many ask about Monument Park when talking about the Stadium. It’s the one thing all baseball fans want to see. You can’t continue to hide it in a closet. The seating and standing area above the new party suite/restaurant in left center would make up for the seats in the bleachers lost to the new Monument Park.

    While I really believe it must go, if you keep the centerfield building, you can still move Monument Park to left center as described above. Put both bullpens side by side, in a north/south direction along the right field wall of the restaurant (about a section and a third of seats, the sitting area for both teams would be in the present Yankee bullpen for both teams). The ads would be above the sitting areas and the throwing areas of each bullpen. Each bullpen would be double tier. The first level would be the sitting area. Above and behind that area would be the warm up area. Where the visitor bullpen is now located you can extend the bleacher seats, making them closer to the field. The new bullpens and Monument Park locations will take care of the obstructed view seats next to the restaurant. The additional seats in the old visitor bullpen would make up for part of the loss seating because of Monument Park and the additional bullpen. If you need to make up for all of the lost seats, I would raise the centerfield TV picture and place bleacher seats on top of the concession stand area.

    Great Hall – The great hall should be like entering the lobby of a grand hotel. It should be the one amenity that all fans enjoy by simply walking into the building. If you do nothing else but go to your seat and watch the game; every time you enter the great hall you should have the sense of entering the hallowed home of the greatest franchise in sports. A grand museum lobby with tile floors, windows that open and close depending on the weather (still no AC, but cut down the wind tunnel, the dust, and other elements) so you can use the hall for non-baseball functions. In addition to the banners, fill the space with bronze statues, plagues, and historic game used artifacts (that will not fade in the bright area) and photos. The Yankee Museum is great but you should expand the concept to include the great hall and have something that all fans can enjoy and don’t have to wait on line to see.

    Right now the great hall with its cheap concrete floor is just another store, a market place for peddlers to sell their wares. Use the area outside the building for game day sales. You have enough retail space in the building and don’t need to cheapen the great hall. While I’m on the subject, taking away a third of the concourse areas throughout the building with additional food and vending carts only makes the walking areas as small as the old stadium. You also need to move the lines so they are next to the vending areas so fans can walk freely throughout the concourse instead of weaving through fans on line as we did in the old stadium.

    Handicap Platforms – I have nothing against the seating areas for the handicapped. I do object when they interfere with other fans view of the field. Either have them the same throughout the building making the concourse area the same width on each level or place them where they do not interfere with other fans. The seats in the sections next to the platforms must be raised above the platforms so the fans can see over the handicap fan and others who are in those areas. See what they did in Philadelphia where the handicap platforms do not interfere with other fans.

    Railings and counters – Behind each handicap platform and in other areas behind the seats, there should be counters and railings for those who wish to stand and have something to eat and drink. Especially, in the 300 concourse level of the building where there is not a single place to set down your food and drink. You also need more in the food court, more on each level but especially counters behind the seats and platforms so you can catch an inning or two while you eat. Again, in Philadelphia they have a great system for the handicap and the standing room fans with plenty of counters. They let you stand there and watch the game while you eat.

    Third Level Concourse – In addition to the winds that help create the wind tunnel effect; a driving rain makes all the seats in the grandstands and the whole concourse area wet. There is no place to keep dry (or warm) on that level. You need to close up part of the back wall of the grandstands and the front wall of the concourse area. Simply put a wall above the concession stands that extends up. From the outside, it can mirror the original stadium with the arch grates to allow ventilation but keep the majority of the rain and wind away from the concourse and grandstand area. It will also allow the outside to resemble the original building without the expensive granite. The wall can constructed using stucco and supported by connecting it to the present steel structure. The roof can be similar to that of the great hall allowing natural light into the area. Speaking of wind tunnels, you need to also place glass on the windows of the food court like the great hall. I’ve been there when the wind was very strong creating a wind tunnel out to right/right center field. Finally, the rest rooms on the third level also need hot water or at least warm water. The cold water only is unacceptable.

    Outfield wall – The power alleys appear to be shorter than the old stadium. The 385 ft. and 399 ft. marks appear to be about 20 feet toward center field than the mid way power alley markers in the old stadium. The fence does not have the same angle from the foul lines toward the power alleys. It appears more gradual in this new park and some web sites have published fence comparisons showing a shorter right center field. If true, along with the wind currents, this would help explain the HR surge.

    I have no idea why the wall depth was not taken into consideration in the initial design and that fans would lean over and interfere with balls still in play. They thought of it for the wall that separates the bleacher fans from the outfield grandstand fans. The joke on the web is that the Yankees planted poison ivory in the plant boxes to keep the bleacher fans in their place. Take a look at the National’s Park for a clever design for the outfield wall. You may need to take out a row of seats or place a rail angled in toward the seats to prevent fans from reaching over the fence.

    Sight Lines – The flat bowl seating is a major problem especially in the grandstands. In addition to being much further away than the old stadium, there are too many sections in the grandstands where you still can’t see large parts of the whole field. You should be able to see all of fair territory no matter what section in the building you sit. Again, this should never have happened in a 21st century stadium design. While it’s true you can see in between the fans sitting in front of you, the poor site lines are still a problem because the fact remains that fans don’t sit still. They move in their seats; they wear all types of hats; they use umbrellas; and they talk to the person sitting next to them. Since you can no longer see above them as you did in the old stadium, and there is so little foul territory in the new stadium, you now have poor site lines even behind home plate. This is true of a person sitting 3 rows in front of you.

    While you can’t stop people from moving in their seat or from wearing hats, you can stop them from bringing in umbrellas. They interfere with other fans from seeing the field. They also get fans next to and behind them wet from the rain dripping off the umbrella. As in any Disney theme park, you must use a poncho. Besides, I’ve seen them used as weapons during fights and arguments in the stands. Because of the flat seating area this is a difficult area to address without major reconstruction to make each seat higher than the one in front. However, it is extremely frustrating not to be able to see all the action while at a game. TV monitors in the grandstands may be an alternative (and you don’t need 5 speakers in each section, the noise is deafening)

    The Backstop Netting – It appears to be higher than the old stadium to protect the fans in the second seating level. But what if you lowered the first backstop and put another back stop at that second seating level? It could be lower allowing the TV camera to see through without the netting. I think this may be a possibility. It’s worth exploring. The fans on the second level see through the net anyway, so it’s not new. If the net is high to also protect the media, then put a third net there but allow the camera a free sight line. That is how it was done in the early days of broadcasting games on TV.

    Customer Service – The customer service reps with the signs asking to serve you was a great idea and many have said “Welcome to Yankee Stadium”. One thing I always remembered about Atlanta is that they not only welcome you but thank you for being at Turner Field.

    I realize that security is important but there is a right way and wrong way to achieve your objectives. Learn best practices from Disney, Las Vegas, and other stadium venues. Stop treating your customers like criminals. Only in NY are fans subjected to the “pat down”. This is not security or even a perception of security. Take a page from the Disney theme parks, check the bags quickly, have express lines for those without bags, and keep the lines moving. You know that the idea is to get fans inside to spend money, not standing on line outside the building. Also, if you want fans to come from their office using public transit then you need to expect them to carry a larger bag, maybe even a brief case. Check the bag but let them in. The no re-entry policy is outdated. Disney theme parks and other ball parks simply stamp the fans hand and let them back in. No fuss, no problem. Most fans are not going to go in and out all night. The batting practice policy is perceived as a sign of class distinction. Nearly every stadium I’ve been to allows all fans to gather near the dugouts, the infield and the outfield walls to seek autographs and see their favorite players up close. That’s a sure way to build your fan base. Fans need positive memories of going to the stadium, positive experiences to keep them coming back. One way is to let fans see their favorite players up close. Let fans stand behind each section, on each level and have something to eat or drink at a counter, and watch an inning or two. Allow fans to move to better seats after the 6th or 7th inning. I’ve done it in many ball parks with the ushers right there. As long as you are not taking another fans seat or being disruptive, what’s the harm? In fact, you fill up the lower level for the TV camera in later innings.

    You will soon have a generation of fans who’s only memories of the stadium will be negative, being yelled at by security or other stadium personnel for nothing more than trying to see their favorite players. I’m not saying that fans should be allowed to just go anywhere but security needs to ease up on all the restrictions. If not the next generation of fans will simply sit on the couch and watch the game on HDTV rather than traveling to a game and being hassled by security and other stadium personnel.

  162. Mike J. July 1st, 2009 at 2:54 am

    How about some splashguards in the mens’ restrooms?

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