Game 75: Yankees at Mets (updated with Girardi and Matsui pre-game audio)
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YANKEES (42-32)
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Cabrera LF
Gardner CF
Wang RHP
Pitching: RHP Chien-Ming Wang (0-6, 11.20).
METS (37-36)
Murphy 1B
Cora SS
Wright 3B
Sheffield RF
Tatis LF
F. Martinez CF
Schneider C
Castillo 2B
Hernandez RHP
Pitching: RHP Livan Hernandez (5-2, 4.05).
TIME/TV: 8:05 p.m., ESPN.
LAST STOP ON THE SUBWAY: The Yankees are 4-1 against the Mets this season, having outscored their city rivals 40-15. The Yankees have outscored the Mets 29-1 in the last three games.
BACK ON A ROLL: The Yankees have won four straight. They have hit .306 with 33 runs and 17 extra-base hots in that stretch while pitching to a 2.00 ERA with 38 strikeouts over 36 innings.
BACK-TO-BACK DOMINANCE: Led by CC Sabathia and A.J Burnett, the Yankees have held the Mets to one run on four hits over the last two games with three walks and 19 strikeouts.
CHANCE TO GAIN GROUND: The Braves and the apparently great Tommy Hanson are about to beat the Red Sox. Yankees can get to within three games of first with a win. Toronto also lost, so the Yankees can move a game against of those plucky Jays.
YOU, ME AND NEARLY .233: A-Rod is 7 of 22 with 11 RBI in his last six games with two home runs. His batting average is up to .227.
TRYING IT WANG MORE TIME: Chien-MIng Wang has not won since last June 15. He has a 5.68 ERA since coming off the disabled list. The Yankees have scored only seven runs in his last three starts. Wang is 1-1, 4.90 in two career starts against the Mets.
LIVAN IT UP: Livan Hernandez is 0-3, 6.94 in six career starts against the Yankees. He allowed six runs on seven hits over 5.1 innings at Yankee Stadium on June 12. Jeter, Teixeira and Cano homered. Career numbers against Hernandez: A-Rod 11-19. 3 HR, Jeter 8-19, Posada 4-12, Swisher 5-14, Cano 4-9, HR Teixeira 3-6, 2 HR.
NOT MUCH MATSUI: Hideki Matsui has seven plate appearances in the eight interleague road games, going 1 for 5 with two walks. He is 2-15 in his last 10 games with no RBI.
MO”S MILESTONE: Mariano Rivera needs one save for 500.
BRUNEY UPDATE: Brian Bruney has appeared in four games since coming off the DL. His line: 3 1 1 1 2 2. The Yankees are 13-1 in the 14 games Bruney has appeared.
Beautiful day at the ballpark. Too bad the game doesn’t start until 8 p.m. Back with more later.
UPDATE, 5:14 p.m.: Jeter pronounced himself healthy. “Good to go,” he said.
UPDATE, 6:12 p.m.: Ryan Church scratched, Fernando Tatis in.
UPDATE, 6:16 p.m.: Damon is still sick. Phil Hughes told me he felt fine and could pitch.
Meanwhile, here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game interview session:
And, just for kicks, here is Hideki Matsui. The questions and answers are translated by Roger Kahlon. Hideki speaks decent English but in a group interview, which this was, he likes to use the translator.
UPDATE, 6:23 p.m.: Jose Molina said he as “close to 100 percent as I can get.” He will run again on Tuesday and hopes to start a rehab assignment after that.
UPDATE, 6:35 p.m.: Joba is a smart kid. He just went over to ESPN’s Baseball Tonight set on the field and shook hands with John Kruk, Peter Gammons, Jon Miller and Dave Winfield.
UPDATE, 6:43 p.m.: Derek Jeter hit .321 in 34 games at Shea Stadium. Does he miss the old place?
“I do not,” he said. “I’m not trying to be disrespectful, I just didn’t like that stadium. The field conditions weren’t good. Hitting in that stadium was a lot different than playing defense in that stadium. You liked the atmosphere but the field conditions, and even the clubhouse conditions weren’t good.”
UPDATE, 6:59 p.m.: Jesus Montero just hit his first homer for Trenton. He connected against Reading’s Mike Stutes at Waterfront Park. Ball went out to center.
UPDATE, 8:06 p.m.: Wow, the Mets have a live person sing the National Anthem before the game instead of using a recording. What a concept. I had no idea such a thing was allowed.
UPDATE, 8:09 p.m.: Change for the Mets. Tatis in left and Sheff in right.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: We’re underway as the Captain returns. It’s a nice 69 degrees in Queens. Enjoy the game, everybody.
UPDATE, 8:11 p.m.: Derek back in style with a double. That ball is 10 rows deep in the Bronx. Be nice if they could stake CMW to an edge.
UPDATE, 8:17 p.m.: The beat(ing) goes on for the Yankees as Tex slams a two-run double into left field. Still no outs.
UPDATE, 8:25 p.m.: Tex is not particularly fast but he is a heck of a base-runner. 3-0 Yankees. It’s on a silver platter for Wang.
UPDATE, 8:38 p.m.: Not a very pretty inning but Wang will take it. Yankees lead 3-0 and they have outscored the Mets 32-1 over the last 28 innings.
UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: Here’s how bad the season is going for the Wanger: He just got robbed of his first career hit by Fernando Martinez.
You know what? The Yankee pitchers have handled the bat pretty well in these nine games.
UPDATE, 8:50 p.m.: A-Rod more mobile and agile at third base lately.
Man, I sound like Clyde Frazier.
UPDATE, 9:09 p.m.: Derek Jeter … to his left? Yes, his left. Wang bailed out with the pretty 6-4-3.
Meanwhile, the Mets just gave out these cool trucker caps. I’m defecting back to Queens. The Yankees only give us water bottles and cheesy stuff.
(Photo credit: Sam “Annie Leibovitz” Borden)
UPDATE, 9:14 p.m.: I’m not overly impressed with Wang so far as he’s having trouble throwing strikes. But a 3-0 lead and a one-hit shutout through three innings can’t be argued with.
UPDATE, 9:29 p.m.: Mets just snapped a streak of 16 straight innings without scoring. Wang scuffling again. Either can’t or won’t throw strikes.
UPDATE, 9:31 p.m.: Why not walk Castillo to get to Hernandez? Isn’t that what you do in this league?
UPDATE, 9:34 p.m.: The press box at Citi Field (which is poorly designed by the way) is right above a walkway, so you can see fans going back and forth.
Here’s a question I have for you Yankees fans. Why buy a white home jersey with “Jeter” or “Posada” or whatever on the back? Isn’t the cool thing about the Yankees that they don’t have the names on the back? I don’t get it.
UPDATE, 9:40 p.m.: Poor bunt by Wang. But why not have GGBG steal second first then bunt him to third? I thought Girardi was Mr. National League?
He’s at 67 pitches through four. Be interesting to see how much rope he has. Girardi has a very rested bullpen (4 innings the last two days) and a day off tomorrow.
UPDATE, 9:48 p.m.: That is just the kind of inning the Wanger needed. A-Rod with another nifty play. Seems that rest helped, hope the Yankees remember that.
10 ground-ball outs in five innings for CMW and three K’s. He’s two innings away from this being a real solid outing.
UPDATE, 9:56 p.m.: Its unclear how the Yankees have only three hits off Livan Hernandez. They probably need to do something about that.
Say this for the big fella, he’s creative.
Bad spot here for him as A-Rod owns him. Best to walk him.
UPDATE, 9:59 p.m.: Yes, walking him. Now will Cano go 4-6-3 or 6-4-3? Nah, big hit time.
UPDATE, 10:01 p.m.: 6-3 DP and on a 2-0 count. Just brutal. Might be time to get him out of the 6 hole.
UPDATE, 10:07 p.m.: Girardi with the quick hook, which is the smart play.
Now Wang has to sweat out the final 11 outs to see if he gets a win. He can win, he cannot lose. His ERA is down to 10.06 at the moment. Down to 10.06? Yikes.
UPDATE, 10:12 p.m.: I just realized the Mets had their No. 5 hitter bunt in the sixth inning down a run. Wow, is that desperate.
Girardi using his bullpen a bunch, double-switching Coke out of the game and bringing in Phil Hughes to face the right-handed pinch hitter Omir Santos.
Hughes in the middle of an inning. Interesting.
UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: Look at that Joe Girardi messing with Jerry Manuel. One pitch, one out for the Franchise.
If you’re scoring at home — and good for you — Hughes in the second spot and Damon hitting ninth. I want to see Hughes hit. He claims he’s the best hitting pitcher on the team not named CC Sabathia.
UPDATE, 10:32 p.m.: A-Rod having a nice night with the glove. Nice pickup by Jeter, too. Big out for Hughes.
UPDATE, 10:53 p.m.: Six outs to get for the Yankees. They could sure use A-Rod to give them a little more cushion to work with as he bats with two on and two outs in the eighth.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Another big spot for Cano.
UPDATE, 10:59 p.m.: Another bad job by Cano. If he’s hitting fifth on Tuesday, somebody’s not paying attention. Now it’s up to Bruney.
UPDATE, 11:05 p.m.: Brian Cashman is probably calling the Rockies now. Huston Street! Whatever it takes!
Here’s the issue with Bruney, two actually: You have to worry about his elbow and he goes into these “I refuse to throw a strike” phases in big spots. But he usually squirms out of the mess.
UPDATE, 11:07 p.m.: No messing around, right to Mo.
His last six appearances: 6 1 1 1 1 9. This would be No. 500 if he can get four outs.
UPDATE, 11:14 p.m.: Swing the bat, Omir. Man, is Mo clutch.
How do you figure Wang is doing right now? He might change little Justin’s name to Mo.
Mo Wang. Now that’s a name.
UPDATE, 11:20 p.m.: Kind of disgraceful that the Yankees have four hits, no? 1 for 6 with RISP. Teams have combined for 14 walks. Yeesh.
Brett Gardner 0 for his last 7 as he comes to the plate. That train to Cooperstown slid off the tracks the last two days.
UPDATE, 11:29 p.m.: The scoreboards here are twice as good as they are at the Stadium. Both lineups are up at all times, the pitch count with strikes is up at all times, the count is easy to find, there are scoreboards that show the scores from the minor-league affiliates and a full, complete dedicated out of town scoreboard.
UPDATE, 11:31 p.m.: How is this complicated? Walk Jeter and get to the guy who has had two at-bats in his life.
UPDATE, 11:33 p.m.: Again, not as complicated as the Mets made it. … Mo has one at-bat in his career before this year and two this week.
UPDATE, 11:37 p.m.: Mo drove in a run. I never thought I would see that. Too much. He must be thrilled.
The Mets are a disaster.
UPDATE, 11:40 p.m.: So you walk Mo with the bases loaded and strike out Mark Teixeira. Yeah, that makes sense.
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Lets get Wang his first win!
Boston loses 2-1
Sox lose…lets go Yanks!!!
Gonzalez strikes out GOD ! YES !
Finally the RS actually lose a game. Time to capitalize.
BloggingBombers: June 28 vs Mets: Jeter SS, Swisher RF, Teixeira 1B, A-Rod 3B, Cano 2B, Posada C, Cabrera LF, Gardner CF, Wang RHP
Jeter’s back in the line up
I think we’ll see the old Wanger tonight. This is a great situation for him to have a good game. The lineup should be able to stake him some early runs vs. Livan.
Guess Damon is still sick?
Why is Cano still behind Alex. Pete can you ask Joe that tonight please?
Damon still sick? Hopefully tomorrows off day all those battling the cold will rest up.
YAY Jeter and his flu is back
A win tonight is paramount. Can’t keep treading water with Boston.
You, me and .233? Nice, Pete. Very nice.
Question, why wasn’t Gonzalez rocking on the mound? Did he take his meds?
Damon just came down with the flu Friday night. He’s a few days behind Derek. The day off tomorrow is certainly coming at a good time.
I can’t remember a Bobby Cox led team that was this bad defensively or this bad on fundamentals.
Tommy Hanson is going to a really good pithcer. Easily dispatched of the Red Sox. And he had the flu, on top of it.
Now back to that Wang rumor
IDK but I’d listen if 3 names are in this
like Dominic Brown, Mayberry Jr. or Michael Taylor. I’d listen and watch Wang and my system carefully.
Yea, Jeter’s back!
Hanson wasn’t impressive against the Yankees despite the score.
The Braves got rid of Glavine for Hanson.
Hanson’s the real deal.
Rconn23 he looked really good when I was at Turner Field on Tuesday. His fastball has late life and when he commands his curveball he’s pretty nasty. He has 2 plus pitches already and if he can develop a good 2-seamer then he can easily be a #1 or 2 starter in the big leagues.
When will Girardi let Gardner bat leadoff w/Jeter second,especially with Damon out of the lineup? Let Swisher bat 7th.
“When will Girardi let Gardner bat leadoff w/Jeter second,especially with Damon out of the lineup? Let Swisher bat 7th”
This is bad strategy. Jeter has a higher OBP than Gardner and Gardner’s is inflated right now from that 5-6 game. Swisher is another guy with a higher OBP than Gardner and he’s a good #2 hitter. This is a great lineup. You’re being fooled by Gardner’s 5-6 game and his speed. OBP at the top is what you want.
John Henry’s new bride is 30 years younger than him. The reception was at Fenway.
http://www.boston.com/sports/b....._outfield/
Rebecca–Optimist Prime
Hanson’s the real deal.
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Before today his FIP was 5.58. He lucked out v. the Yankees. He may turn out to be good, but I haven’t seen it in the MLs yet.
YankeesWFAN: Bernie Williams on season finale of Mike’d Up tonite at 11:30pm on WNBC ch 4.
YankeesWFAN: Jose Molina is here and getting closer. “I can play today.”
Boston lost….. Lets go yankees!!! wanger please follow CC and AJ…
“YankeesWFAN: Jose Molina is here and getting closer. “I can play today.””
No
Pete, is Phil available tonight? I don’t know what to think about Wang – he’s under the weather, too. He may have a rough outing tonight – hard to pitch with the flu.
JB Cox quit because he was demoted? Good makeup on that kid – he’s not someone I want to ever see wearing pinstripes. Sheesh.
Good discussion on Phil earlier – I’m still skeptical that he can get his innings in without being sent down, but I’m willing to accept Cone’s judgment on that. I don’t want him throwing 75 innings in the pen in the second half – and I don’t think we can assume someone is going to get hurt. Per Joe, basically Wang is in the rotation to stay and do any of us believe that Andy will ever be replaced? I don’t think so……and if he’s hurting, he won’t be put on the DL (like he wasn’t when he had his back issues). Therefore, I don’t see where Phil is getting his starts from.
Great stuff also on AJ – I think he and Jorge just needed to get on the same page. There’s no reason why they should have meshed right away – they never threw to each other before this year. I do actually think they are somewhat alike – Po is always intense and, on gamedays, AJ is like that. He doesn’t talk much (unlike CC) and he’s just in a zone. I missed the hug, but it’s nice to see that AJ is supportive of Posada, particularly after the unfair beating Jorge has taken. I can’t wait for those games where AJ has his blistering FB and Curve working (plus a couple of changeups)…….
Good news on Jose……….
Whats up with the mets tv broadcast always trashing Cano’s style. Atleast Cano never missed tagging thirdbase.
Molina < Cervelli
“Good news on Jose………”
Yes for depth other then that no.
Gary Matthews just stole home in the LAA game.
Just heard from someone that Wang’s parents are going to be at the game … maybe they will bring him that extra boost of confidence he needs.
Which would you hope for
Mayberry, Bastardo, Lidge
or
Lidge,Bastardo, Taylor
for
Wang/Edwar Gonzalez/Kontos or Dunn
woa, hello bold.
I see we are bold and beautiful again.
Good my post stands out more
Brandon,
They aren’t trading Lidge. They need him to close since they don’t have an internal replacement and, bad as they have been playing, still have a very good team able to win the pennant again.
First off, Wang has to show he is still a frontline starting pitcher if you expect to get A List prospects for him.
Which begs the question…..
If he is a frontline starting pitcher again, why would the Yankees trade him now? They need him more than whatever he can get back in trade.
SJ if they put a package of
Lidge/Bastardo/Taylor for Wang/Ramirez/Robertson…would you do it. YES or No.
Trever, I disagree. I like Frankie, but I’m not dumping on Jose because of a few weeks from the kid. Frankie needs to play everyday in AAA (or wherever) – as a catcher, it’s especially important.
Am I the only one that was encouraged by Wang’s last start? He had one bad inning and I think I recall some bad defense behind him. 3 runs in 5 innings is not awful. He pitched pre the re-emergence of the offense led by A Rod. Tonight I predict 6 1/3 innings pitched, 2 ER’s, 4 hits, 4 k’s, 4 bb’s.
Jeff we all are encouraged, but if you can land something really good for him, you’d have to be a complete homer not to atleast consider it.
Why would you trade Wang?
At some point he will revert back to the 19 game winner. If it’s this year, they will have the best three starters in baseball. Maybe 4 with Joba.
Bold is beautiful.
Nah, I don’t believe in trading starting pitching depth. Besides with the Hughes and Joba innings limits, we need Wang’s innings (and yes that is a turnaround from my previous position) that is with the emergence of Phil the future franchise.
Brandon, 3 for 3 deal? Those are pretty rare. Especially if you are going to trade 2 people on your 25 for 1 on someone elses. Who is going to trade their closer who just won you a world series for a #3 starter who hasn’t done anything this year.
Brandon,
That package would never be put on the table.
You are asking the Phillies to trade their closer, #1 overall prospect and #1 pitching prospect, who is already in the majors, for a struggling former 19 game winner, a throw in relief pitcher, and another relief pitcher.
That trade is weighed way too heavily in the Yankees favor.
Jeter is getting nervous he knows Pena is ready to take his job. With Pena emergence if I was the yankees I would consider not resigning an old Derek Jeter.
I see the world of video game trades still abounds on this board.
Now back to that Wang rumor
IDK but I’d listen if 3 names are in this
like Dominic Brown, Mayberry Jr. or Michael Taylor. I’d listen and watch Wang and my system carefully.
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MayberryJr is kind of old, and late bloomers are rare, so I’d be hesitant there.
Wang for Taylor straight up is intriguing. Mainly because Taylor is only 24, a RH LF with pop, something the Yankees could use in the future and a legit, high end guy.
However, for that to happen, it would mean Andy Pettitte has to revert back to being Andy Pettitte AND you have to feel confident BOTH Hughes and Joba can stay in the rotation (from an innings limit perspective) for the entire year.
Too many “what if’s” for the Yankees to think about pulling the trigger on that one, IMO.
SJ it was a YES or NO question.
Ok we can even it out
Bastardo/Taylor
for
Wang/Romine/Dunn
JB Cox didn’t “quit”… he made the smart decision. His stock has fallen so much since 05-06, he already had TJ surgery, and has put up awful numbers (with awful control) for 2 years now. Then he was demoted.
He had no future in the organization and it was too steep a hill to climb, so he probably decided to stop delaying the inevitable and find something else to do with his life rather than toil in the minors with no direction.
Good luck to him.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, blamed “the Yankee empire” for the coup in Honduras.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8123126.stm
Is there any chance Chavez is a part owner of the Red Sox?
Thankfully you aren’t the Yankees because Ramiro Pena isn’t even close to being as good a player as Derek Jeter.
Deals for Wang can happen, if the Yankees so choose, in the off-season.
I’d be VERY leery about dealing him in season because of the current state of the starting rotation.
A return to form by Wang probably puts the Yankees in the playoffs this year. Too big a risk to make (by trading him) in season.
And who replaces Pettitte next year in the rotation if you trade Wang?
What if McAllister isn’t ready or gets bombed at the ML level?
Phil is replacing Andy next season.
Unfortunately, I don’t see Andy reverting to form – this is now since 2nd half of last year. I know about his numbers, but they don’t tell whole story – he’s just not been good.
Brandon,
I don’t do, “yes or no” questions for fantasy trades.
That trade is still not an “even trade” from the Phillies perspective.
Here’s an “even trade” from the Phillies perspective:
Wang and Austin Jackson for Bastardo and Taylor.
You have two starting pitchers for each teams #1 prospect.
That’s an even trade and I wouldn’t do that deal.
Brandon, you can make those trades in XBox or PS3, not in MLB real-life.
BTW, the Phillies are one of the few teams in baseball with great catching depth in the minors. That makes Austin Romine a non starter in trade talks with them.
I don’t think the Yankees are in a position to trade any starting pitcher on the current roster right now. They aren’t that deep in starters to risk such a trade.
Who is your favorite rookie player on the Yankees so far this year?
Gardner by far
Was Cox the one who was on “secret probation” a couple of years ago?
One of those pitchers Bastardo has a shoulder issue, so the stock is gonna drop on him SJ. We’re talking about what we would deal Wang for, again this is the most sensitive convos. on this blog, b/c it’s always too much you can’t get this for Wang, you can’t do that to the rotation…etc.
DeRosa landed Chris Perez for godsakes, McLouth landed Gorkys Hernandez. Philly needs a SP, they said the only way they trade Taylor is if it lands them a front end SP. If you can do this you do it. That’s my take.
Does Tampa ever lose anymore?
Reading SJ toying with various poster’s trade scenarios and roster decisions is like watching a lion play with a lamb. I love it!
Given the state of Phillies’ pitching staff right now, I’d be surprised if the Phils’ traded any pitcher of value they have. I’d take a chance on Lidge, depending on what he’d cost, but I don’t see the Phils dealing him. When he’s right, he’s terrific, they don’t win without him last year, and I don’t think they see themselves winning without a solid year from him this year.
Yanks need verteran bullpen help, that’s not something you are going to trade a starter for. They are probably looking at teams that are out of it with a decent arm in the pen that you can trade some of your high end minors guys for.
Padres or Nationals maybe? So many teams are still in it which is what makes it tough
Wes: Cervelli.
Someone in my fantasy league just offered me Gonzo for Miguel Cabrera and I already have Teixeira at first.
I’m a crap fantasy player because I don’t care enough, but my eyes went wide at that.
Is anyone else a little peeved that we did a deal with the Indians for Veras earlier in the week that could have included DeRosa but didn’t?
I just tried to make that trade Brandon on MLB 09 the show for ps3. They said no.
Pokey: In what universe does Veras get you DeRosa?
Carl add Dunn and Romine and tell me what it saids.
Pokey – what makes you think the Indians would have given up DeRosa for a guy who was DFA’d and could be had for pennies?
Brandon,
If Bastardo has a shoulder issue, why would you want the Yankees to acquire him? That makes your proposed deal even more of a thumbs down.
I think the Yankees have enough guys in their system they have to rehab on a nearly endless basis. They don’t need another.
If you are interested in trading Wang, the best case scenario is, he pitches like the old Wang the rest of the way, has a great post-season, and then you see what the market is for him in December.
That’s when you get optimum value if you are interested in trading for him.
Dealing a starter of Wang’s pedigree for a AA OF and a LH pitcher with an injured shoulder is not getting enough value in return for him.
Don’t overestimate prospects and underestimate guys who have performed well at the big league level. GM’s who take such a tack aren’t GM’s for very long.
We’re going to have a hard enough time getting to the playoffs as it is this year considering out competition (Boston, Angels, Tampa) are all loaded with pitching.
Giving away your former 19 game winner when he returns to form for a bunch of minor leaguers is not a smart strategy at all. There is no such thing as enough pitching depth.
Why hasn’t the league figured out Fernando Nieve yet?
Aight Brandon let me boot it back up.
Rebecca- not saying Veras alone would have gotten him, but STL got him for Chris Perez…
So let me get this straight SJ if the table had that proposed deal you’d turn it down ? am I correct ?
SJ: The only reason you’d want Bastardo is because he’s got the greatest name ever.
2010 rotation if we trade Wang for some good prospects
Sabathia
Burnett
Chamberlain
Hughes
McAllister
Easy as pie.
Pokey
Chris Perez = Future CL
Veras = Future mop up
Jose Veras doesn’t get you Mark DeRosa.
Chris Perez to the Cardinals is what Mark Melancon is to the Yankees. He’s that level a prospect.
Would you trade Mark Melancon for Mark DeRosa? I wouldn’t and I’m a big DeRosa fan.
That was a panic move by the Cardinals and they gave up a guy who is going to be a good 8th inning guy, and perhaps a very good closer, in his ML career.
Too much for a 34 year old FA to be, IMO.
“Who is your favorite rookie player on the Yankees so far this year?”
Ramiro Peña. Cervelli is good too.
Trading Wang right now is absurd. His value has never been lower.
Go out and get Mark Teahan to play some RF/LF
Tim: Utterly no guarantee McAllister survives at the ML level.
I guess what I am trying to say is that it has been pretty clear so far that Nady was not going to be back, and even if he was there was no chance he was going to be able to play much in the field. DeRosa would have given us insurance at 3rd (big upgrade over Ransom and Pena), and allowed Damon and Swisher more off time in the field without giving up too much power.
It is high,it is far, it is GONE!!
No wait,it’s off the wall……
Yup, very easy. Three young arms with innings limit in the 2010 rotation.
Makes sense to me. If you are interested in finishing in 4th place.
Brandon,
I wouldn’t make those trades because it hurts the Yankees chances this year. They don’t have the pitching depth to afford losing Wang. That’s why they are trying so hard to get him back to form.
Nieve has good stuff. I guess his control is better. Give me a guy who can throw 94 and consistently hit spots plus have a decent secondary pitch and I’ll show you a winner.
Brandon they said yes for that
Burnett on Wfan
I’ll be back later. SJ I’d look longterm but that’s just me, I would sell if that’s the tag. If not I keep him. No biggy. Damn you IPK for screwing this up.
Later guys.
I’ll take Gardner. I’m pretty sure this is considered his rookie year
I don’t think anyone was proposing trading Wang mid-season… that would be beyond idiotic to give away rotation depth in a tight pennant race, especially when Hughes/Joba are on innings limits this yr and only Igawa/Towers there in AAA incase of an injury.
However, if he does well for the rest of the season, then you see what he can fetch you over the winter.
“I guess what I am trying to say is that it has been pretty clear so far that Nady was not going to be back, and even if he was there was no chance he was going to be able to play much in the field. DeRosa would have given us insurance at 3rd (big upgrade over Ransom and Pena), and allowed Damon and Swisher more off time in the field without giving up too much power.”
Ransom maybe, but Pena’s defense has been awesome. He’s also had a few nice hits. DeRosa’s a good player, but the guys in his 30s. What is he 34 or 35 years old?
Thank you Carl.
Brandon 1
MLB 09′ ZEEEEEEROOOOOOO
Laters.
lol
SJ44 – Why do you have to be such a buzzkill?
Let the kiddies discuss fantasy baseball amongst themselves till the game starts.
I think 34… but all we’d have needed him for is this season and possibly next if we don’t sign Holliday or Ankiel or someone like that.
CC Sabathia told AJ to use his Change up more
Yankees aren’t going to trade Wang now.
They could use a veteran reliable bullpen arm, from a team willing to dump salary, for a prospect. Maybe in a month Jose Valverde will be available.
Would anyone be interested in versatile Chone Figgins, a FA to be? Angels need a left handed bat with some power, and pitching. I don’t see the Yankees as players for any potential long term big time Boras client contracts next year, so count out Holliday and Bay, but Figgins might be an option to play 3B and LF.
“Who is your favorite rookie player on the Yankees so far this year?”
Cervelli. He’s been more then we could have hoped for.
But, now I want a fresh Molina to back-up the rest of the year.
Shoot, I think I missed the first part of AJ’s interview…..what’d I miss?
Figgins for Matsui and someone from the AAA pen?
Nothing much. Talking about his last game. What Manuel said about his stuff being better 2 weeks ago. He just said he thought his hook was better. How he loved pitching behind Roy and how CC is the same.
Let’s face it, barring an injury, the Yankees don’t need much this year. Maybe a 2nd lefty in the pen which they seem to be in the market for every year, but they may already have that guy in Marte.
Carl, did AJ say that? Ugh – I missed most of his interview, but maybe they’ll post it later.
Carl – You said JA would get on a roll after that Boston game… turns out you were write lol
At least the Mets aren’t hitting Tatis clean up
Carl, thanks! Well, I guess for the time being AJ will slot behind CC – I hope the Yankees leave that alone. If CC did advise AJ to use his change more, that’s good advice and it will make AJ more dangerous.
“Who is your favorite rookie player on the Yankees so far this year?”
Thats a tough one. Top 3 would probably be Hughes, Cervelli, & Pena
make no mistake, this is a dangerous game tonight with the Yankees. There haven’t been too many games where someone could claim it’s ok to lose because they won the first two. Livan is a fighter who throws strikes. It would be nice to gain that game on Bos and Tor.
Glad to hear Phil is feeling fine and ready to go…..
Watching the Mariner-Dodger game, they have people singing God Bless America at the 7th inning stretch. Who said they only have that in Yankee stadium?
I think we are gong to see the Wang of old tonight. He is upp to 94-95 mph and is locating better. If he has the slider he had a couple games ago, the Mets are looking at another shutout.
I should have started him tonight on my Fantasy Team, but was too late. That’s usually a good omen.
Shapiro would have had to been on crystal meth to trade DeRosa for Veras. The pitcher they received is potentially a closer and at worst a very good set-up man.
As for Wang, why would you trade him when his value has never been lower? And why would trade him at all given the fragility of starting pitchers? You need depth at that spot, as much as you can get.
dave June 28th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Carl – You said JA would get on a roll after that Boston game… turns out you were write lol
I never knew AJ was this down to earth and witty.
Reading some old articles from TOR and FLA papers this winter, it sounded like he was a hot head and prickly and kind of ornery and kept to himself (and there were a fair share of articles in the NY papers this winter saying that he doesn’t have the greatest reputation personality-wise and wondered if he would fit in NY)… from what we have seen so far, he is the exact opposite of that. He may be my favorite acquisition.
I wonder if the Yanks regret not naming AJ the number 2 starter at the get go. If AJ needs that psychological boost to pitch like he did last night, then more power to him. Maybe it did the opposite for Wang? Didn’t feel like he belonged there ya know..It’s a stretch, but could have contributed.
Every team does God Bless America on Sunday’s. Yanks do it every home game.
Seldom:
I’m with you, I thought he would be brutal with the media given what I had heard and he has been terrific with us, very candid and approachable and a very professional guy. A few weeks ago he stopped me in the clubhouse and told me how he actually had been enjoying the give and take.
I’m a big A.J. fan from a personal standpoint. He has been a good guy to deal with.
METS (37-36)
Murphy 1B
Cora SS
Wright 3B
Sheffield LF
Tatis RF
F. Martinez CF
Schneider C
Castillo 2B
Hernandez RHP
Ouch. How the hell have they even been able to score a run this past month?
“I wouldn’t give up on Chris Garcia just yet”
i would
Peter Abraham June 28th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Shapiro would have had to been on crystal meth to trade DeRosa for Veras. The pitcher they received is potentially a closer and at worst a very good set-up man.
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HAHA great line Pete!
AJ got a bad rap in Florida. He had some incidents with management. Then again, a lot of guys have issues with the way the Marlins are run! lol
I think Roy Halladay has been a great influence on him and helped him grow up.
He’s also really good to the clubhouse guys. A telltale sign to me whether a guy is a “good guy” or not.
The FL clubhouse guys loved AJ.
He can be Nuke LaLoosh at times but, if I was the GM, I would have signed him over Lowe this off-season.
Too much talent not to take the risk at this stop being the stop he can harness it long term.
Pete, how about a question and answer with AJ?
Seldom, AJ has said many times that he was young and stupid. He clearly was a hot head and very immature – lots of guys are like that, but fortunately he grew up. He has many friends with the Jays and the youngsters did gravitate to him, so whatever he did on the mound, he was making an effort off it. He’s got a bit of a sardonic wit – I like that. He’s certainly been fine with the media, which I guess people wondered about. Pete, thanks for posting that. I wonder how often players have said that to the media? Probably not many – then again, AJ seems to march to the beat of his own drummer.
Could this be an opportunity to get Garcia off the 40 man? Would anyone claim him with his season ending injury?
AJ has indeed been a complete surprise in his presence in the clubhouse, his interaction with his teammates (seeking out the shy Wang) and with the media. Certainly makes it easy to root for him. Go AJ!
Even if they did, he’s probably not pitching until 2011.
At some point, you have to cut bait with guys who just can’t stay healthy.
The roster spot is more important than hoping he finds good health in a few years.
My fav. acquisition is still Swisher
The guy has a cool haircut and plays loud music.
Anyone see AJ ruffle Pena’s head yesterday? I love that……Phil Hughes has said he’s taken the kids under his wing (and didn’t AJ show Phil his new curve? Must be like a proud papa when the kid breaks that out)….and we know he’s made an effort to get close to Wang. It’s hard to see basically decent guys struggle because you don’t like to criticize them – at least, I don’t. I have a hard time with that even though it’s just on a professional basis.
When it comes to trading ML prooven starting pitching, you better get something prooven in return.
Look at what the Twins got for Santana. Nothing that can contribute. Brutal.
As for depth. Hate to say it, but it’s saving Bostons bacon right now.
Not sure where they’d be w/o Penny. And now Smoltz is starting due to the Dice K injury. All the while Borden and Bucholtz can continue to learn in the minors.
Did you see AJ give Pena a hug? He doesn’t come off as a warm guy, but I guess he really is.
Pete, lol – yes – an AJ Q and A would be great!
Joba vs. Brandon Morrow on Tuesday
The 40 man at the end of the season is going to be interesting. I know there will be 4-5 spots open, but who fills them?
Great point about the Santana trade.
How “smart” would Bill Smith look today with Melky Cabrera and Phil Hughes on his team?
He made an awful trade for their franchise pitcher. That’s a trade that will haunt their franchise for years because they didn’t get anything close to value for him. Especially against the deal the Yankees had on the table.
UPDATE, 6:35 p.m.: Joba is a smart kid. He just went over to ESPN’s Baseball Tonight set on the field and shook hands with John Kruk, Peter Gammons, Jon Miller and Dave Winfield.
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Can someone send Damon over there to cough on them?
“UPDATE, 6:35 p.m.: Joba is a smart kid. He just went over to ESPN’s Baseball Tonight set on the field and shook hands with John Kruk, Peter Gammons, Jon Miller and Dave Winfield.”
Joba making friends with the media… atta boy.
“Anyone see AJ ruffle Pena’s head yesterday? I love that……Phil Hughes has said he’s taken the kids under his wing (and didn’t AJ show Phil his new curve? Must be like a proud papa when the kid breaks that out)….and we know he’s made an effort to get close to Wang. It’s hard to see basically decent guys struggle because you don’t like to criticize them – at least, I don’t. I have a hard time with that even though it’s just on a professional basis.”
Thats good to hear that AJ’s been helping the kids. Of course, I wouldn’t know, but I haven’t seen Derek do those kind of things like taking one of the young kids under his wing. He probably does, its just not shown
Didn’t Gammons say that Joba is the most hated player in the AL after that Huff game?
It rearly work trading a starter away.
Sure, you could have the once in a lifetime Bart Colon trade.
But even with CC, the Indians got former Pete Abe Blog fav Matt Laporta, who could be good some day. But he could also be Andy Marte.
If I’m a big market GM, I would never trade a MLB starter that has a good track record unless I’m getting something back that has some MLB experience.
Something similar to Garza for Young (in principle, not results).
I don’t want to wait another hour for the game to start…
Mariano Rivera sunday convo is on espn.
Since when was Kruk a great player?
Being warm and fuzzy isn’t helping AJ beat Boston. Maybe he should go back to being a jerk if it helps him beat our biggest rival.
he was a career .300 hitter and made 3 all star teams, I’d say that is better than average.
Yes because its all about 2 games against Boston isn’t it?
Since he isn’t going to be able to pitch against Boston until possibly August, what do you suggest he do in the meantime, pout?
Kruk hit .300 over 12 ML seasons, made a couple All-star games and won the 93 WS with the Phillies against the Jays.
He had a borderline HOF career considering he won a ring and has a .300 lifetime BA.
Nobody on the Yankees has beaten Boston this year. You can’t hang that all on AJ, Danny Boy. AJ is a good pitcher with great stuff. With CC, AJ, Joba, and a corrected Wang starting in the playoffs, the Yankees will be a very tough out.
“he was a career .300 hitter and made 3 all star teams, I’d say that is better than average.”
You know how many players that statement could apply to?
“Kruk hit .300 over 12 ML seasons, made a couple All-star games and won the 93 WS with the Phillies against the Jays.”
Joe Carter might disagree.
Borderline HOF career? Are you kidding?
The closest Kruk comes to being a HOF is when he buys a ticket and goes on a tour.
He was a good ML player. He wasn’t anything close to being a “borderline HOF” player.
Bernie Williams and Jorge Posada are “borderline HOF” players. Kruk wasn’t in their league as a player.
Earl, they lost that series. Remember Mitch Williams and Joe Carter?
All I am saying is that he was great, I never said that he was a HOFer or anything like that.
Trenton is tied at 2-2. Corona and Montero have homers.
great games by Charleston players in 9-2 win.
Here’s the box score.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_savafx_1
he hit 100 career homers and 592 rbi…how is that borderline hall of fame??? wouldn’t that mean sean casey and his career .303 average, 130 homers, 735 rbi and 3 all star selections is a borderline hall of fame candidate too?
“All I am saying is that he was great, I never said that he was a HOFer or anything like that.”
If he was great, then what is Don Mattingly or Bernie Williams? Or Willie Mays?
Kruk was a one dementional player. A good hitter and no glove guy.
He’s awful on BBTN. Then again most former players are. they judge everything by name not value.
I Kruk is a Borderline HOF’er, what does that make Mattingly?
what does the line (# # # # # #) correspond to?
does anybody else think dave winfield is worse than kruk on BBTN other than me?
“UPDATE, 6:23 p.m.: Jose Molina said he as “close to 100 percent as I can get.” He will run again on Tuesday and hopes to start a rehab assignment after that.”
We should trade Molina at the deadline… lots of teams could use a good backup catcher like him.
“If he was great, then what is Don Mattingly or Bernie Williams? Or Willie Mays?”
Hall of Famers, even if the BBWAA will never acknowledge 2 of them. Heck, they haven’t even recognized the greatness that was Thurman Munson.
The better question is…Is John Kruk worth this much space?
The Mets tonight have two players with an .OPS over .800
The Yankees have seven and an eighth (Gardner) at .790.
This includes the starting pitchers.
Rconn, I think the answer is no, but it is still an hour before the game.
“We should trade Molina at the deadline… lots of teams could use a good backup catcher like him.”
Not unless we get someone better than Cash as the third stringer.
At any rate, Cervelli is most beneficial if he can play every day, which he could do at AAA and not at the ML level.
LOL
I don’t know what’s funnier… the fact that that guy thinks Kruk is a borderline HOF…. or because he thinks he is a HOF because of a championship that he never won (infamously, I may add).
I like Cervelli as much as the next guy, but come on. Molina has proven over SEASONS that he is one of the best backup catchers in baseball, if not the best. Cervelli’s time will come soon enough, but Molina is still better at this point in time.
obviously that was a typo.
Kruk is a Borders HOFer.
The jury is still out at Barnes and Noble.
I disagree, Cervelli needs to learn from Jorge more than he needs to play in meaningless AAA games. Who says he needs to play everyday to be fresh? If the bullpen keeps it up, I wonder if they could get away with one less arm out there?
I’m so sick of hearing these cliches about Cervelli- “He’s the sparkplug,” “energetic,” “gritty,” “true Yankee,” “heart.” It’s just so tilting to hear because Posada is by far the superior player and many people have been clamoring for Cervelli to start! Molina > Cervelli just like Jeter > Gardner at the top of the lineup.
Jeff: His BAT needs to play every day, regardless if the games are meaningful or not.
If he develops any legitimate power, he goes from being a career backup to a career starter.
He’s not likely to get much of a chance to do that here unless Posada gets hurt again, and that would do more harm than good for the Yankees.
So what was ESPN trying to accomplish by adding Steve Phillips to the Sunday Night booth?
I think they were trying to cut out the amount of time Orel could talk, so that the average viewer would not figure out how bad the rest of the announcers are. Steve Phillips is the Matt Millen of baseball. How he is allowed to talk about the game is beyond me.
DT -
Books on tape???
DT -
Books on tape???
Eric
June 28th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
JB Cox didn’t “quit”… he made the smart decision. His stock has fallen so much since 05-06, he already had TJ surgery, and has put up awful numbers (with awful control) for 2 years now. Then he was demoted.
He had no future in the organization and it was too steep a hill to climb, so he probably decided to stop delaying the inevitable and find something else to do with his life rather than toil in the minors with no direction.
Good luck to him.
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That poor kid has had such an ill-fated star over him. He has pitched in pain, had one disappointment after another, one betrayal by his body after another.
It’s a damn shame; he had some weapons.
And really – you people out there LEAPING to judgment about a player’s character; seriously GROW UP.
You know NOTHING about a guy and you call him a “quitter.” Really – learn the nuances and ups and downs of real 3-dimensional living before you cast your stupid little superficial stones at others.
How’d you like to try to earn your living with your elbow falling off?
Just do everyone a favor and GET LOST.
Isn’t Aceves a rookie?
He’d be my pick.
“So what was ESPN trying to accomplish by adding Steve Phillips to the Sunday Night booth?”
They were trying to downgrade the quality of their broadcast.
Hey any radio feeds for this game online? Don’t have MLB package this year =(
Time to cut the cord on Garcia.
8 pm is too late to start a baseball game.
Montero is now 2-2 including a dead center field homer. Not sure of the distance at Trenton, but I’d assume it’s over 400 feet. His average at Trenton and Tampa is almost .340 to go with 9 homers, 45 RBI and 18 doubles. Not a lot of walks in his 244 at bats (21) but, not many strikeouts either (31). Impressive for a 19 year old catcher.
Favorite rookie?
I’d take Aceves too. There all good though Gardy, Pena, Cervelli, Hughes, Robertson, etc. Its hard to pick a favorite.
vinny-b
June 28th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
“I wouldn’t give up on Chris Garcia just yet”
i would
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HIs curve and change are insane.
He’s only 24 – let him make another comeback.
The guy is worth waiting for.
Favorite Rookie?
Melancon. The guy is such a stud
EA
June 28th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Time to cut the cord on Garcia.
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You’re nuts. It took Coke until age 26 to make it. I’d wait 2-3 years more for Garcia. He’s just so much better than everyone else. I’m not giving him away.
I think Melancon is still more ‘prospect’ than ‘rookie’.
Highly doubtful Garcia can ever stay healthy enough.
I think Melancon actually has to be on the roster to be a rookie.
Wow just showed a picture of Jobber signing auto’s looked like Yankee Stadium. Tons of Yankee fans.
Arizz
June 28th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Favorite Rookie?
Melancon. The guy is such a stud
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x2. Gangsta’s second.
How about George Kontos? Maybe an extra arm for the ‘pen?
The last two closers to come out of Texas University…Cox and Huston Street…both have battled injuries their whole careers…coincidence? I think not.
How about this : Matsui/Miranda/Betances FOR Adam Dunn or Nelson Cruz…Nat’s are looking to get rid of Dunn’s contract already(not to mention they are going nowhere) and Texas gets Matsui to fill in to their lineup, Miranda for the bench and Betances as another key part of the future…anyone’s take on that?
Pokey
June 28th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Highly doubtful Garcia can ever stay healthy enough.
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I’ll take the risk.
Ed in PR June 28th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Hey any radio feeds for this game online? Don’t have MLB package this year =(
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Here you go:
http://www.bronxhomers.com/blogs/posts/Joey1
Kruk is like Michale Jackson.Both ware one glove for no apparent reason.
People can back off the bridge now. Jesus Montero hit his first homerun at Trenton.
AJ on wfan again
The risk isn’t worth the spot on the 40 man.
“Matsui/Miranda/Betances FOR Adam Dunn or Nelson Cruz”
i dont see why the nats or rangers would do those trades…i would do them…dunn would hit 50 homers at yankee stadium but is a one-dimensional dh basically…we’ve had to many of those….cruz would prbly be better overall..i still cant see either team agreeing to that type of package
I hate these people who don’t know the teams they are broadcasting. The Yankees are NOT playing the o’s. they are playing Seattle!
LOL
ESPN just showed a graphic about how the Cardinals/Mets and Yankees/Braves games will be seen on ESPN this week… those were last week.
Then Ravech said we’ll be playing the “Orioles” on Tuesday…. we’re playing Seattle.
Arizz
June 28th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Favorite Rookie?
Melancon. The guy is such a stud
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Hey Arizz, did you see Melancon pitch out there?
“The last two closers to come out of Texas University…Cox and Huston Street…both have battled injuries their whole careers…coincidence? I think not.”
Given what Texas did to Austin Wood, this is even more disturbing.
ShamWow
June 28th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Kruk is like Michale Jackson.Both ware one glove for no apparent reason.
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lol
Watching The Notebook while waiting for this darn game to start. Hate the waiting.
Oh, here’s my favorite part of the movie, the rain scene.
Joba got the espn sunday night production crew all in a tizzy. lol.
Hey anyone else wanted to puke when TBS was going on and on about how the Red Sox were drafting and keeping good pitchers. And they talked about how many homegrown players were in their bullpen and rotation?
How come when it’s a Yankee game, we only hear about NYS?
Bod,
Not this year (aside from the games he pitched in the big leagues on TV)… I did see him live in Trenton a couple times last year and WOW, the guy has an electric arm. The best part is that he doesn’t try and blow you away. He just wants to get outs, period.
“Given what Texas did to Austin Wood, this is even more disturbing”
True, Rebecca. Im not sure why they feel as if their closers can go 3 to 13 innings a game. 2 Innings, ok. 13 from Wood, not ok.
RalphieD,
Why would the Nationals accept that? They get important parts for the future. Plus, they have put him on the market already to see what his value is. Maybe another team offers more, but until we know what is out there, I would be hesitant to offer much more.
lol, again ESPN said we are “going down to Baltimore” after this game.
S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC
June 28th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Watching The Notebook while waiting for this darn game to start. Hate the waiting.
Oh, here’s my favorite part of the movie, the rain scene.
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Bite your tongue. Never say “Rain” when waiting for the Yankees to play. Shame on you.
Tank June 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
lol, again ESPN said we are “going down to Baltimore” after this game.
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You think someone would say. Hey idiots they are going home and playing SEATTLE!!
Guys, unless you want heartburn after your dinners, I suggest John and Suzyn. They’re not perfect, but they will beat Joe Morgan and Jon Miller. I guarantee it.
Is tonight’s game going to start on time or are they going to wait until the line of rain passes by?
Arizz
June 28th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Bod,
Not this year (aside from the games he pitched in the big leagues on TV)… I did see him live in Trenton a couple times last year and WOW, the guy has an electric arm. The best part is that he doesn’t try and blow you away. He just wants to get outs, period.
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Oh, I was wondering because of your username. He pitched at the University of Arizona.
Yeah, he’s got the arm, command, demeanor. Doesn’t try to blow you away, but gets swinging strikes with his breaking stuff and his FB. The other shoe’s going to drop w/Melancon before the season is out.
This is not a good matchup for Wang at all… this Mets team can’t hit HRs so they are not going to be swinging for the fences, so the big ballpark doesn’t help him.
This current Mets lineup is going to try and slap the ball around, get some base hits, take walks etc. That is the type of team that gives Wang problems… teams that put the ball in play on the ground and spray hits all over the place. They will manufacture of runs tonight. They can’t hit power pitching like CC or AJ, but they should be very successful against a guy like Wang.
Hope our offense can tee off Livan tonight.
Lets go Wang!
GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Bite your tongue. Never say “Rain” when waiting for the Yankees to play. Shame on you.
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LOL! Ooops. Me bad
Please. I’ve seen better lineups in the little league world series. This Mets team can’t hit period outside of Wright.
Wow, Bodh……why don’t you get lost since you’re directing that rant to me? That’s all I have to say on that matter.
m
June 28th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Joba got the espn sunday night production crew all in a tizzy. lol.
Hey anyone else wanted to puke when TBS was going on and on about how the Red Sox were drafting and keeping good pitchers. And they talked about how many homegrown players were in their bullpen and rotation?
How come when it’s a Yankee game, we only hear about NYS?
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Wang, Joba, Jeter, Posada, Gardner, Melky, Cano, Cervelli, Hughes, Pena, Robertson, Coke, Aceves, Rivera & Pettitte
The yankees have done a nice job devoloping players from the system that are on the 25 man roster, people just focus on the yanks payroll.
Good to see that AJ Burnett is recieving love here at The LoHud….That certainly wasn’t the case back in December when he signed…In fact that wasn’t the case just 3 weeks ago….John Kruk may make the Padre’s & Phillies Hall of Fame, he’s clearly a patron at Cooperstown, just like the rest of us….
We play 4 day games in a row against the Jays… the players must be thrilled.
The game is only airing on ESPN today or what? Not on YES. Not on My9.
Only ESPN
I was fine with Miller and Morgan. They don’t bother me like they bother others but Steve Phillips?!!?!! COME ON!
Espn only
How many here think Livan makes it past the 5th inning ???
This broadcast may not be that bad tonight… probably mostly Mets bashing and Steve Phillips talking about how they need to trade Beltran.
A resurgent Wang…
Sinking Metropolitans…
Subway leaving Queens…
I do, Pat M…….The Yankees did nothing against Redding for the first 4 or 5 innings yesterday – they still let guys off the hook. I expect Livan to pitch a very good game…..
Hi everyone!!!!
Let’s Go Yankees!!!
How can you be fine with Miller and Morgan? They are terrible! The YES crew is far and away the best in baseball.
Don’t underestimate Livan.
Anyone else watching the game on mute? Unfortunately we get the “great” trio of Miller, Morgan and Phillips tonight.
They did nothing against Redding in terms of scoring runs but they got his pitch count up high. and got to the Met pen. Which is awful outside of Krod.
Adam. Trying to sync tv and radio. Right now looks like tv is behind. UGH
Evening everyone!
Wang looks for his first win since the Truman Administration.
Coincidentally, that was Livan Hernandez’s first year in the big leagues!
Trevor
We scored 4? off Redding. Is that doing nothing?
Jeter!
Wooohoo! Jeet gets us started right!
Well John made me think it was gone. It was 10 feet off the wall.
That ball FLU.
“They did nothing against Redding in terms of scoring runs but they got his pitch count up high. and got to the Met pen.”
if you consider 5 runs in 5 1/3 innings nothing…then sure…they did nothing
Guess Captain is done from his flu
The Captain is back
Damn you, Sterling. “It is high, it is far, it is off the wall!”
GGBG June 28th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Evening everyone!
Wang looks for his first win since the Truman Administration.
Coincidentally, that was Livan Hernandez’s first year in the big leagues!
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I think Angel was the starting short stop.
Even though TV and radio are not in sync, I would still rather listen to John and Suzyn than that ESPN crew. They at least know the team.
jennifer
June 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Well John made me think it was gone. It was 10 feet off the wall.
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Are you muting the ESPN announcers and letting Sterling call the game instead? Nice
Bunting in the first inning vs. Livan Hernandez?
I’m all for small ball but come on…
VOTE TEIXEIRA!
keep getting those votes in for Tex in the All Star game.
GGBC, that was in the 6th – they didn’t do much against him for most of the night. I’m with Doreen – don’t underestimate Livan. Actually, I never underestimate any starting pitcher….
Swish!
good job murphy!
Wang has not allowed a run yet!
Need to enjoy this for as long as we can!
Bad play by Murphy there. Gotta take the out at 1st.
haha! Murphy threw to 3rd! Dumb play.
The Mets need a real 3B. How well we know.
Joe from Long Island ~
If you have DVR you can pause the TV for a few seconds to help the radio sync to the TV
Joe me too. I can’t listen to the three idiots in the booth.
Jeter at second…
Standing where Shea’s shadows fell…
Livan’s finesse foiled…
Pokey June 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
How can you be fine with Miller and Morgan? They are terrible! The YES crew is far and away the best in baseball.
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Because that’s just how much I don’t like Phillips – he makes everyone else tolerable.
get em home
Nice choice Murphy…
LOL Thanks Mets.
The Mets B-team is AWFUL
Crowd not liking the call. Booth not liking the fielder’s choice.
Jeter feels better apparently.
The Mets are like a video on baseball fundamentals gone wrong. What NOT to do
That was a dumb play by Murphy there…
I’ll take it though
Erica the radio is ahead. Can’t do it.
Betsy
We’ve seen Livan before. We own him. He’ll be in the showers two hours before this game ends wondering what hit him!
Jennifer~
Oops. I thought it was the TV ahead. Sorry!
Betsy
June 28th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Wow, Bodh……why don’t you get lost since you’re directing that rant to me? That’s all I have to say on that matter.
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Players are people who have histories. I’ve seen this guy many times and he is not a “quitter.” That’s just daft.
Your lack of compassion and rush to judgment – based on hearing a single sentence about him – is irksome.
Remember that incredibly brief time that Livan was a Yankee. It worked so well that if you blinked you missed it
GGBG, I hope so, lol
TEX!!!
yea tex!!!
2 run double for Tex! WOOOO!
TEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s right baby!!!!!
Tex!
2-0 Yanks
Atta Boy Tex!!!
Big Tex is the friend of all Taiwanese today (actually he has been for the entire season)
Taking the mound with a lead is only going to help Wang a lot
Erica – newly OPPC June 28th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Remember that incredibly brief time that Livan was a Yankee. It worked so well that if you blinked you missed it
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He was? Don’t remember that.
its amazing how much more confident fans are in the offense now…a week ago people would of been saying that pelfrey redding and livan would shut us down
“Wang looks for his first win since the Truman Administration.
Coincidentally, that was Livan Hernandez’s first year in the big leagues!”
it’s a little known historic fact that truman got his famous phase “the buck stops here” from livan.
livan however meant that he was going to earn a lot of money in the major leagues in the next 60 years.
what truman meant, livan could never quite figure out.
Pitch around Arod to get to Cano.
Livan seemed really eager to throw something for Arod to hit.
Erica
No he wasn’t.
http://www.baseball-reference......li01.shtml
A Captain goes home…
Swisher too, Tex is not fooled…
Livan’s wile withers…
Does anyone here ( still ) think Livan will make it past the 5th inning ????
I don’t think Livan is gonna eat too many innings today
Broadcasters are now acting like football broadcasters using the drawing screen.
Bodh, it’s nothing personal against JB Cox – I don’t even know him. I was upset when Tabata walked out when he was suspended last year…..All I know is what I read, that Cox quit because he was demoted. IF that’s all there is to it, then yes – I don’t like the mentality. I don’t need to prove how compassionate I am or am not to anyone, but if there is more to the story than I am aware of, I’m certainly open to hearing it. If I think I am wrong, I would admit it and apologize to the guy……
Murphy has hands of stone.
Cano pulling an outside pitch.
RalphieD:
A week ago they would have!
Murphy helping us big time today
robbie hit that ball hard…
Maybe you’re thinking about Adrian Hernandez, Erica?
how about the AROD slide to disrupt the double play? but little things like that will go unnoticed…sigh…
And Morgan blames it on the glove…
Randy I, I thought you were in the pen watching the game after heating up Livan…..He’s not long for this game…Mets are a bad team right now as he’ll get no support
Betsy June 28th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Bodh, it’s nothing personal against JB Cox – I don’t even know him. I was upset when Tabata walked out when he was suspended last year…..All I know is what I read, that Cox quit because he was demoted. IF that’s all there is to it, then yes – I don’t like the mentality. I don’t need to prove how compassionate I am or am not to anyone, but if there is more to the story than I am aware of, I’m certainly open to hearing it. If I think I am wrong, I would admit it and apologize to the guy……
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I think it was extreme frustration on his part. He has been injured so much. Lots of surgeries etc. I think getting demoted was the straw that broke the camels back. Probably couldn’t handle it anymore.
don’t we want Livan to stay in?
o/t, but wasn’t it fun watching Ortiz play 1B?
Jenn-
I stink tonight. I can’t find any record of him with the Yankees online, but I could have sworn he played a few games with them. Very weird
Whoa, Cano mighta been out there if he doesn’t drop that ball. Ew.
m -
In Sterling’s defense, this time – in any other park, Jeter hit a HR. That wall at Citifield is like 100 feet high.
Between Livan’s hittable pitching and the Mets pathetic defense we should put up a big crooked number tonight. They give us 4,5 outs an inning!
Liv’s pitch count rising,
unfortunate…appetite
for innings sated?
djsunyc June 28th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
how about the AROD slide to disrupt the double play? but little things like that will go unnoticed…sigh…
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Um he did. watch again.
Yes Tom in NJ, it is Adrian Hernandez I was thinking of.
Sorry for the bad info
Jen, could be…….I feel badly for any player that has had his career derailed by injuries.
Pat M.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
How many here think Livan makes it past the 5th inning ???
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Only one person here thinks so, and, he’s not a troll. At least, I don’t think he is.
Sac fly!
Mets making mistakes…
Momentum, Yankees leading…
Livid Hernandez…
good job jorge!
Nice AB by Jorge, 3-0!
HEY, LOOK- A SAC FLY!!!
# Pel June 28th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
HEY, LOOK- A SAC FLY!!!
Lol that video was so funny
Livan at 27 pitches and rising
oh please, wang, be good tonight. lol
bad bad cano
that was a horrible steal
Why is Cano running?!?
Espn baseball crew has to be the worst in baseball i cant understand anything joe morgan say. The Espn Radio guys are 100x better
Cano’s not exactly the fastest guy on the team for a steal…
Bad call by Girardi sending Cano there. Just like asking Cano to bunt is not his game, neither is the stolen base.
Ask Huston Street about JB Cox’s “character.”
I don’t always pen…
Haiku, but when I do I…
Prefer el Beisbol…
>Lol that video was so funny
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 28th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Ask Huston Street about JB Cox’s “character.”
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what do you mean by that?
Let’s go Wanger!!!
That ERA is going down tonight. Let’s go WANG!
I missed the top half of the inning. Can someone explain how Nick Swisher reached base without a hit or error and no out recorded?
Gameday only says that he reached base on a fielder’s choice but Jeter made it to 3rd on the play.
Wang’s ERA drops from near infinity to somewhere less than infinity! WOOOO!
“I missed the top half of the inning. Can someone explain how Nick Swisher reached base without a hit or error and no out recorded? ”
murphy threw to 3rd and jeter was safe
Catching Wang’s sinker…
Echoes off brick and limestone…
Good morning, Taiwan…
Patrick-
It would have been an out at first, but for some reason they threw the ball to 3rd base abd Jeter was safe.
So it wasn’t an error, but bad fundamental baseball.
This inning is a very good example of why errors are such a limited way of assessing defense.
Murphy made two horrendous plays this inning. The drop was about as bad a mistake as a first baseman can make.
Despite that Murphy was charged with no errors. On neither one of those mistakes could the scorer “assume” the out. As such no error.
Terrible defense. You could see it. There was no doubt about Murphy’s defense being terrible. Despite that the statistic does not pick it up.
The same issue applies for defensive stats like UZR. Murphy fielded the first ball in his zone fine. So he’s not going to get dinged on UZR. On that scoop play UZR doesn’t account for picks by first baseman.
The only fielding system that’s going to pick up those mistakes is the Fielding Bible’s +/- system.
Thought Wang throws harder than 91-92
Patrick
With Jeter on 2nd, Swisher hit a ground ball to first. Jeter took off for third. Murphy fielded it and tried to get Jeter at 3rd and Jeter was safe. I would think that’s scored a fielders choice.
Joe Morgan thinks this Mets team has good spirits… Sure, Joe, whatever you say…
Patrick
Ball was hit in between first and second. First baseman Murphy got it threw the ball to third (jeter was running there). Jeter was safe and Swish was safe.
LOL Livan didnt even say anything to Castillo is Joe Morgan making stuff up again?
good star so far.
The Mets have their own version of Murphy’s Law.
If the ball is hit to him, bad things will happen.
Let the roller coaster ride begin.
good start too.
Thanks guys, got it. Dumb play by Murhpy, thanks buddy!
Not a good start for Wang. Can’t walk someone to get to the only hitter in the Mets lineup.
wang’s velocity is down….
Patrick,
It was a fielder’s choice, so no hit for Swisher. But the throw wasn’t in time to get Jeter. Murphy should’ve taken the out at 1B, especially after he bobbled the ball.
Wang sinkers are high so far.
Remember, Morgan is anti-Yankee so every consideration will be given to the Mets.
Oh – and can Jon Miller stop calling OPS “ahh-ps”? It’s an acronym. We don’t call ERA (ear-a) do we?
Wang looks terrible
As bad as Murphy’s been, I think he was worse in LF.
I wonder if his nickname is Murphy’s Law?
wangs keeping the ball up
Wang appears nervous.
nice slider wang
I like Joe Morgan’s narration of all of these things happening in the dugout. For all he knows Schneider could be saying that was horrible and Livan didn’t say anything to Castillo.
C June 28th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
LOL Livan didnt even say anything to Castillo is Joe Morgan making stuff up again?
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Didn’t he give him a little pat on the arm as he passed him?
Jon Miller and Joe Morgan are terrible announcers. Is that Steve Phillips in there too? Man I thought the ESPN team couldn’t get any worse. Guess I was wrong.
Wang can look bad and still beat the Mets lineup. Wright, Sheffield and a whole lot of nothing else. Even if Wang is not great tonight he should be able to handle them.
So Murphy can’t catch pop flies in LF (Marlins in April), can’t dig balls out of the corner (numerous times), can’t throw the ball to the correct base and can’t hold on to a DP ball…Mets really need a trade or better minor league prospects lol.
Is it not true that shortening your stride as a sinkerballer allows for more of a downward angle when throwing, thus creating more sink?
I believe that this has been a problem with Wang in the past, not keeping a short stride. Guidry used to notice it when he was overstriding and would correct it in-game.
I can’t imagine Eiland doesn’t know this same thing, but with the way he seems to be handling the pitchers, who knows.
I know you guys don’t like Morgan but overdoing the criticism doesn’t make you look any better. Guys interpret things all the time including the Yankee broadcasters.
Come on Wang
Patrick
If you think it’s hit the bottom, they could always add Chris Berman!
jennifer
June 28th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes June 28th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Ask Huston Street about JB Cox’s “character.”
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what do you mean by that?
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When he left Texas, he said the closer’s role wouldn’t miss a beat, it was in great hands, because Cox was his heir. He said the only reason he was the closer was because he “got there first,” and called Cox “an unbelievable pitcher.” praising both his physical and “mental” game.
Wright and especially Sheffield are the two guys that will give Wang the most trouble tonight.
I can’t believe I am saying this, but can you imagine where the Mets would be this season without Sheffield?
Wow you guys are freaking out for no reason. Wang’s velocity is not down. He’s consistently at 91-93 which is normal for his sinker. The ESPN gun is off. Will you please relax? Lets see what Wang can do, he’s only face 4 hitters.
Wang’s all over the place. If this continues expect Hughes by the 4th inning.
Wooo!
A scoreless first for the Wanger!
way to get out of it. I think he will settle down.
Serving up sinkers…
In a Citi by the bay…
Breakfast in Taiwan…
and wang escapes unscathed
hopefully wang settles down from here on out.
These announcers are terrible..
Oh yeah Wang looks real terrible, he gave up two weak fly balls and got a strikeout on 17 pitches. So terrible, I can’t even bear it anymore.
exhale
17 pitches for Wang
Wang- wildly effective?
Let’s hope Wang gets stronger. He needs to not think about Papa Wang in the stands.
Hey, a scoreless inning from Wang
Lara- The difference is that the YES guys make intelligent interpretations. It helps that they are not all 100 years old.
Sheffield is a pro.
So is Joe Morgan. Articulate with a deep store of knowledge. Although sometimes he shows some bias towards his favorites
shaky first
Let’s go Wang.
Shut those doubter’s mouth.
Wangs ERA is lowered to 10.86
haha that sportscenter commercial funny w/ Posada
If Wang cant beat the triple A-Met team he should be botteled for the season. I thought that the Brave game was going to be his arrival statement for 2009; it wasnt. If he cant beat the weak hitting NL teams how will he be competitive versus the AL east. Its not looking promising for Wang, 2 fly ball outs and no sink ?!?!?
Haha, I dont like much about ESPN – but that Hip Hip Jorge commercial is slightly amusing.
bodhisattva
oh okay thanks. I knew he and Street playing on the same Texas team. Yankees probably drafted him in hopes that he could some day replace Mo. Unfortunately he was bitten by an injury bug that he couldn’t get rid of.
Wang’s sinkers rising
Livan’s pitch count is as well
Crooked score tonight?
If we continue to avg. 40 minutes per inning tonight this game will be over some time in 2012 just in time for the Mayan prediction of the end of the world.
Economical inning for Wang.
yay! ajax hit his 2nd homerun tonight!
I have a haiku!!!
Mets sloppy baseball…
Yankee fans get their brooms out…
Hope Wang helps us win!!!
I guess 3 straight strikes looking for Wang. No base running for you!
wang threw 17 pitches and 9 of them were up.
3 balls put in play: 2 middle up, 1 dead center.
Angel-
You disappeared last night. Did you see the post I left? If you wish to e-mail me your address, I will send you my copy of the Jane Heller book
And coincidentally, Morgan’s favorites are players of color.
That’s not necessarily a bad thing. He’s doing his part in promoting the sport to a certain demographic.
Just stand there Wang
Who here wants to see Wang leg out a triple? Show of hands.
ROFL he made the CF run
damn he robbed wang!!!
Wang was robbed of a hit. And I think Joe g was happy.
Its just my opinion Pokey. I don’t think Morgan interpreting Schneider’s pat and whisper to Livan as encouraging him as far-fetched. Nor Livan patting a player on the arm/ back as saying, “Good job” after that player made a good catch as far fetched.
And he got criticized for that. I just think they give enough for people to criticize without viewers needing to nitpick.
Erica,
Are you trying to jinx us again? Put your broom away!
Good don’t want Wang running the bases anyway. Thanks Fernando!
let’s hope wang has better stuff this inning.
I thought they told CMW not to swing!!!!
I’m just as happy that guy made a really good catch.
Wang approaches first
While the ball hangs in the air
Management shouts NOOOOO!
“Montero is now 2-2 including a dead center field homer. Not sure of the distance at Trenton, but I’d assume it’s over 400 feet.”
GB7,
The stadium out at Trenton is 407 to dead center. And that’s where montero hit the ball. He must have absolutely smoked it.
He’s 19. Catching. He’s had a handful of games in AA. He’s hitting over .300 and hits a 410ft + home run. What a talent.
I was kind of happy Wang’s ball was caught. I hate to say this, but Wang cannot be trusted to run the bases. LOL
good catch. thankfully, that keeps Wang off the bases.
I think we should throw a party when Wang’s ERA finally goes under 10. I’ll bring dessert.
“I have a haiku!!!
Mets sloppy baseball…
Yankee fans get their brooms out…
Hope Wang helps us win!!!”
Very nicely done Erica. I have been thinking about bringing out a few but I fear that they will bomb worse than Mark Prior’s career
m
June 28th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Erica,
Are you trying to jinx us again? Put your broom away!
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No worries. It was a metaphorical broom. I am not much into cleaning
Besides, it said I HOPE we win.
If Wang got that hit the Yankees would probably make him walk to second on a groundball.
“I thought they told CMW not to swing!!!!”
Mo is such a bad influence. Hope the judge throws the book at him in kangaroo court.
Haha Rich-
Let them rip. I actually am enjoying the haikus. Counting out the syllables made me feel like I was in second grade again
man wang just makes u scratch ur head sometimes
changeup??? no slider?
thank you a-rod for that cannon arm.
wang threw 2 pitches in the zone that AB
There’s Morgan bashing the Yankee management for playing ARod every day after surgery.
Of course, he happens to be right…
I don’t think Wang has his great stuff today, but beating the Mets would be a great confidence booster. He has had some starts where his sinker looked great but he still got into trouble.
“I think we should throw a party when Wang’s ERA finally goes under 10. I’ll bring dessert.”
just don’t let livan see it first.
As long as Wang can fool em he’ll be allright, because his stuff looks horrendous tonight.
I wish lethargic Dave Eiland would go out there and talk to Wang. Excuse me if he did.
wow, we have the best record in the league since ARod came back? Including that disaster week vs. the Nats? Just…wow.
I’m waiting for Joe Morgan to bring up the ghosts of Tom Seaver and Nolan Ryan coming over from the old Shea Stadium.
I think Eiland is getting his hip replaced from all the walks out to the mound he’s taken so far this year.
Wang needs to keep his sinker down and still throw it for strikes. Too many balls are up.
wang just cant locate right now…his velocity is between 91-95..thats not bad
RS
He had good stuff against good lineups. If he had that stuff against this Mets lineup, he’d be destroying them.
This stuff is better than the early season nightmare stuff…but it’s alot closer to that nightmare than it should be.
Doesn’t look good to me. Velocity is down. Sinker is not sinking.
Great, walk the no-hit catcher. Wang has been so frustrating this year.
GGBG -
Yeah, that was a surprise stat, wasn’t it???
wang. thank you wang for those slow chops.
Classic wang grounders pounded right there. I like that.
35 pitches for Wang: 18 Strikes, 17 Balls
nice going wang…
Let me add
Velocity is not that big a deal but it’s a good indicator of where he’s at. We know what the velocity looks like when he’s right. When it’s down, he’s not right.
The Mets – however – make him look good because they are just awful.
“I think we should throw a party when Wang’s ERA finally goes under 10. I’ll bring dessert.”
“just don’t let livan see it first.”
Is Livan too busy eating innings to save room for dessert?
Hi randy – it’s been a while. How have you been? Opinion of Wang tonight? Although not as good as he can be, it’s been effective so far. Control’s been mediocre, but he’s gotten some grounders.
Watching Wang’s ERA is like watching an I.V. Drip..drip..drip..
Doreen
I’d never have guessed that – even with how hot we were in May. Not after the last two weeks or so.
DT
Ba dum bum!
he’ll be here all week folks. Don’t forget to tip your waitresses!
What is Eiland going to tell him? “Get your sinker down in the zone”?
Let him solve it on the mound. That’s how you ultimately get it right.
CB
June 28th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
“Montero is now 2-2 including a dead center field homer. Not sure of the distance at Trenton, but I’d assume it’s over 400 feet.”
GB7,
The stadium out at Trenton is 407 to dead center. And that’s where montero hit the ball. He must have absolutely smoked it.
He’s 19. Catching. He’s had a handful of games in AA. He’s hitting over .300 and hits a 410ft + home run. What a talent.
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Yeah, I haven’t ever been to Trenton, so, I wasn’t sure of the distance. However was announcing the game described it as a high line drive. That’s what he was hitting as an 18 year old last year. Charleston has deep and high fences and the winds blow in off of the river, so it takes a rocket to get them out. He did hit two high liners in Savannah in one game last year that went through the pine trees in left center and into the streets beyond. He’s definately got a once every 10 year kind of bat. Piazza comes to mind.
“I wish lethargic Dave Eiland would go out there and talk to Wang. Excuse me if he did.”
i wish eiland would go out there and talk to livan instead and ask him how he gets hitter’s out with that low 80’s fastball.
Wang is fine let him work and look at the final results before judging him so harshly
SJ44 June 28th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
What is Eiland going to tell him? “Get your sinker down in the zone”?
Let him solve it on the mound. That’s how you ultimately get it right.
Wang isn’t right in the head. His confidence is shot. He could say something to him.
jennifer
June 28th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
bodhisattva
oh okay thanks. I knew he and Street playing on the same Texas team. Yankees probably drafted him in hopes that he could some day replace Mo. Unfortunately he was bitten by an injury bug that he couldn’t get rid of.
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Cox was projecting more as a 7th inning or even a different look setup guy. Not in Melancon’s class, but a solid contact type guy with plus slider he throws for strikes. Sad day for those of us rooting for him. He was just starting to feel really good in April – he had elbow surgery and was healthy, but went through a fatigue period.
Jeter was still coughing at the plate. YUCK
Morgan is an absolute joke.
Wang finding his sink,
Meanwhile Taiwan holds its breath,
For win number one
rconn23 June 28th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Morgan is an absolute joke.
He gave Alex credit
Wow, that was one loud strike there by Swisher. That ball was SMOKED!
Once the game starts, especially on a veteran team, there is little the coaches can do. That what distinguishes baseball from football.
Right now, Wang’s arm is trailing his body and that’s why the ball is up in the zone.
The last 3 sinkers he threw in the second were much better.
Hopefully, he found his arm slot for the rest of the game.
Rich-
That was a great one!!! Good job
Three bad luck outs. They are hitting everything hard off Hernandez.
3 rockets…3 outs…but 3 runs so far!
Livan at 57 pitches
back to work Wang
so more hits would be bad?
Carl
June 28th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
SJ44 June 28th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
What is Eiland going to tell him? “Get your sinker down in the zone”?
Let him solve it on the mound. That’s how you ultimately get it right.
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Wang isn’t right in the head. His confidence is shot. He could say something to him.
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Whatever you say, Sigmund Fraud.
I can’t wait to see that Dos Equiis commercial 100000000 more times!
Livan not satiated yet. He wants more, more innings…
I know, I know – well hit outs
lets see a quick inning from wangerdoodle against the 1-2-3
Carl,
His confidence isn’t shot.
He doesn’t need a pep talk. It’s not high school.
Good hitters would have pounded Wang tonight. His stuff is not sharp but the Mets are just so bad…
The Yankees seem to be very confident in Wang tonight as they have decided to coast…
I’d just like to say, I have enjoyed watching the games with you folks this weekend.
This blog is so much nicer when the Yanks are winning and the trolls magically disappear
Erica,
I like your haiku!
On JB Cox – Mike Ashmore has said that while Cox has left the team to go home it is not clear that he has “quit” the team.
He might be thinking things over.
Joe Morgan and Tim McCarver would be great to play the shut up game with. I though Morgan at least liked jeter??? That guy is a goof.
What do they mean Jeter might not want to move? Thats too bad, its not his decision. Not knocking the captain or anything. I’m just saying eventually he’s going to have to.
Listening to Morgan analyze Wang only solidifies my conviction that he has no idea what he’s talking about.
What was that nonesense with the stiches on top…..am I the only retarded one that had no idea what he was talking about?
I’m actually listening to this broadcast. I usually don’t. And I’m trying to keep an open mind. It’s not all bad.
Lol thank you Erica.
Most of our outs have been smoked so far. I’m thinking the middle of the lineup will hurt Livan next inning. Wang’s not been brilliant and his stuff isn’t that good tonight but he’s doing the job…I think he’s smart and understands that he doesn’t need his best stuff to beat this depleted lineup.
Wang’s issue so far this game isn’t his “head” and it’s not his velocity.
His control is bad. And his control is bad because his mechanics aren’t right tonight.
He’s not repeating his delivery and his release point isn’t very consistent. His arm motion keeps changing from one pitch to the other.
Woohoo! Walk Alex Cora to get to David Wright!
This game will end 10-9 or something.
If Wang gets lit up, I’m blaming the girl behind home plate with the Statue of Liberty tiara. She’s distracting.
Thank you Dynasty!!!
Mine definitely isn’t as good as yours are, but I gave it a shot.
I don’t know how you come up with such good ones so quickly
good thing they have a day off tomorrow.
the bullpen is gonna get a workout.
Fear the Cora, pitch him carefully…
Doreen,
I like John Miller. Morgan I could do without. Phillips is okay, but he talks as if he’s got his mouth full of spit.
JB Cox is the one who needs a pep talk, hopefully he’ll reconsider.
Great play by the infield there, very slick fielding. Vintage Wang getting the DP
Well ok…the DP ball shuts me up LOL!
I’ll take my crow well done with a side of bacon, thanks!
GGBG
June 28th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Woohoo! Walk Alex Cora to get to David Wright!
This game will end 10-9 or something.
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Hahaha. They answered you back with a vintage Wang DP
Why is Jeter so terrible at defense?
That DP was pretty. Cano can turn it.
I wish the Yankees could get a decent shortstop with range and a second baseman that could make the DP pivot.
Oh yes Captain and Cano!!! Sounds like a mean drink
45 pitches thru 3 innings.
45 pitches for Wang 23 strikes, 22 balls
That’s 2x tonight that Wang’s gotten his DP ball and they’ve turned it over. Nice going. He may not be as sharp as we’d like, but he’s getting it done so far.
Now, it would be nice to pick up a few more runs, because I am getting the feeling Wang is not unbeatable tonight, in spite of getting the outs when needed.
“If Wang gets lit up, I’m blaming the girl behind home plate with the Statue of Liberty tiara. She’s distracting.”
Darn it, I was going to wear one of those when i go to the game wednesday night. Maybe I should leave it home
A nice 1-2-3. Drip..drip..drip..down to 10.22, and averaging 15 pitches per.
joe from long island-
i’m in my busy season now with work so i don’t get to comment as much.
in general , i think wang is building innings and strength each outing. it ‘ll still be awhile before he’s the wang of old, but he seems like he’s good enough to keep pitching using each game as a stepping stone to the next .
this past inning wang didn’t look overpowering and he tends to miss up which could lead to some home runs. but he got the double play ball which is avery good sign.
all in all i’m happy where he’s at, but he’s still got a long way to go.
Oops. Technically wasn’t a 1-2-3.
Not a bad DP started by the captain as Bill James throws up a little in his mouth.
For a guy everybody wants to move off short, he’s played very well defensively so far this year.
Jeter, Dishing and Swishing!
Ahh, The double play.
Jeter can turn them when he’s not
hitting them himself!
Wow is Arod pump in this series or what
“Oh yes Captain and Cano!!! Sounds like a mean drink ”
just don’t go calling Robbie, Tennille.
“Why is Jeter so terrible at defense?”
I didn’t say his defense was terrible. Where did I even say that? All I said was that eventually maybe in another couple of seasons he’ll have to move.
mute
Jon Miller belongs on this blog.
Arod smoked that one.
Nice Alex
Thats why Morgan said he’ll never leave short, because he can only make that play at short. he cant make it anywhere else on the field.
Not for anything, but Jeter moving to third and Alex moving to the outfield isn’t the stupidest idea I have ever heard
“genious solution” move Jeter to 3rd and Arod to CF WOW JUST WOW
That was funny. ARod in the outfield.
Hmmmm.
these guys are goofs….they are talking about A-rod moving back to short…Fail
They are actually having some interesting discussions tonight, though.
didn’t like that from Robi.
Morgan genius:
RF is tougher than LF because in RF the ball curves.
Really Joe? It doesn’t curve in Left? Really?
Idiot.
This Cano batting 5th experiment should be canned after tonight.
Damn, Cano is a DP machine.
Thanks, randy. BTW, what is your line of work?
Sitting at home right now, I can’t think of a SS in the AL that I’d rather have.
Randy is spot on.
If he continues at his present pace, I think it’s 3-4 more starts before we see vintage Wang.
The positive is, he is moving in the right direction.
One thing they have to do is get Cano out of the 5 hole. He’s not a #5 hitter.
He also now leads the team in GIDP.
Uchhhhh, Cano. He never gets a big hit, never.
“Listening to Morgan analyze Wang only solidifies my conviction that he has no idea what he’s talking about.”
patrick-
so you think you know more about baseball than joe morgan.
interesting.
These espn commentators are jokes. Waste so much time talking about Jeter. These guys are pathetic. My dog could do a better job. Hearing this commentary makes me appreciate John Sterling. Yikes
Yuck, Pete. Take it off.
Cano has made out 4 times in this game already.Really 5 times counting the dropped ball by Murphy.
Just say no to Jon and Joe.
“He also now leads the team in GIDP.”
He leads the team in total outs made.
Which is quite a feat given that he’s not hitting at the top of the line up.
yuck – that orange is BRIGHT
I’m not sure about Alex moving to SS. If anyone I see Peña as a potential candidate for that spot. His bat isn’t the best, but he his defense is excellent.
Awww- Pete Abe looks adorible. He is just wearing a really ugly hat
I would hate to see Wanger pitch like this against a team that can hit.
Is it do much to have Leiter to just call every single game.
Billy Mays died last night and Nick in SF hasn’t been heard from on a day where they face Livan.
Let’s all hope that it’s coincidental.
Robbie was supposed to have a sore wrist. Might that be related to his current slump? I agree though, right now, he’s not doing his job behind Alex. I don’t know that Posada would do better, he’s slumping a bit, also.
Wang isn’t sharp, yet, but as long as he keeps them off of the scoreboard and keeps the pitch count at 13-15 and get past 6 innings, it can only help him get things in sync for future starts.
“Billy Mays died last night and Nick in SF hasn’t been heard from on a day where they face Livan.”
Was Nick highly into Oxyclean or something???
joe in long island-
http://wellfleetcrafts.blogspot.com/
Ugly success is better than pretty failure, at least most of the time. But that hat, Pete, HAS TO GO!!!
nice pic of Pete in a Mets cap in the update.
all he needs is a CB and he’d pass for a real trucker.
(I made sure I spelled that last word right, twice)
Come on, Wang. Throw strikes.
I heard that Mays was on a flight that had a rough landing, and he died later. Is that true?
Um Pete that is a cheesy hat. bright orange. Not even Met colors. And you are TRADER!!
Wang: 52 pitches. 26 strikes / 26 balls.
That is…not good.
Right now, I agree Cano should not be 5th.
I don’t think CMW is going past 5.
He needs another DP. Leadoff walks – not good.
Erica – newly OPPC
June 28th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Awww- Pete Abe looks adorible. He is just wearing a really ugly hat
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And here I thought that was his hair.
I don’t really like Morgan either. But I have to say, I’m surprised Morgan still elicits such contempt because the general level of national baseball announcing continues to decline at a fair pace.
And ESPN has really outdone itself with Rick Sutcliffe. There is no comparison between Morgan and Stucliffe. Morgan is much better. Sutcliffe is horrific. He’s not only awful – he’s both awful and won’t stop talking. He’s completely unprepared and it sounds like he’s trying to get away with cliches as he hasn’t done any work to get to know the teams he’s covering.
The Alex Rodriguez is tipping pitches to Mark Teixeira was classic Sutcliffe. He’s mind bogglingly bad.
But not much is made of Sutcliffe. He’s doesn’t draw nearly the ire Morgan does.
In a similar vein David Wells and much of the TBS broadcast is just utter garbage.
Mays’ flight lost a tire on landing. No harm done except to passengers’ nerves.
Are they seriously going to analyze every move A-Rod makes to see if he’s hurt?
Ugh. Symmetry on your strikes-balls counts is not something to strive for, CMW.
“I would hate to see Wanger pitch like this against a team that can hit.”
Exactly…his sinker is up and he’s not throwing enough strikes. He had better stuff against the Nats, and even the Red Sox.
“I heard that Mays was on a flight that had a rough landing, and he died later. Is that true?”
That’s what they are saying in the AP article. But connecting his death to the flight right now is speculation
“I heard that Mays was on a flight that had a rough landing, and he died later. Is that true?”
Yeah. I read he hit his head. It was at Tampa International. The plane didn’t have the best landing.
So far, Wang’s best pitch is his changeup and that’s not good.
Weird thing is, the best sinkers he has thrown tonight have come from the stretch and he usually has trouble pitching from the stretch.
The walks and deep counts ate really hurting him though.
Heres a small piece of the atricle.
“U.S. Airways confirmed that Mays was among the passengers on a flight that made a rough landing on Saturday afternoon at Tampa International Airport, leaving debris on the runway after apparently blowing its front tires.”
Watching Wang right now is like watching paint dry. Weak lineup and he’s struggling with strikes.
Listening to these ESPN guys you would think A-Rod is the only guy playing in this game
Take another pic, Pete. At least give it a Dontrelle Willis tilt. Then you’ll look fly.
At least the outs Wang is getting are on the ground. He just needs to get outs earlier in the count.
Anyone know if Hughes is available tonight, or is he too sick to pitch?
Wang
randy – looks interesting. Thanks.
Hughes says he’s good to pitch tonight
Pete’s next video blog prize for the best question:
one game used ugly Mets trucker cap.
Going to have to get Hughes ready. They may need him for 3 tonight.
outs…need outs
Wang cmon ….
Lol yeah lets get Hughes ready. He gives up one hit this inning and all of a sudden he’s falling apart? My god talk about impatience.
Omg…those Opponent avg this season numbers are difficult to look at.
Get this last out Wang.
Here is a link to an article regarding Mays:
http://www.wral.com/news/natio.....y/5457417/
Poor gamble pitching to Castillo.
Patrick
It’s not like he’s been on top of his game, has he? 55 pitches and almost half of them balls?
Ugh, Wang. Can’t you get the ball DOWN?
if he can’t get the pitcher out, it’s too sad
One more out, Wang.
We need some tack on runs.
ok – more runs now
Why didn’t we intentionally walk Castillo to get to Livan?
Wang’s single-digit ERA party is now on hold…. Livan is not happy.
That hurts. Can’t get beat by Martinez and Castillo. He then didn’t even look at first and Castillo stole that base on Wang.
This is why Hughes needs to stay in MY.
Unfortunately, it’s still a big struggle for Wang.
That first pitch to Castillo was a terrific pitch. Classic wang sinker. Down in the zone. Lots of movement down.
The very next pitch his arm angle changes and the ball just hangs up in the zone on an awful change up.
This isn’t a matter of lost ability or confidence or anything else. It’s his mechanics. They aren’t consistent tonight.
Wang does not look good at all.
I know we’re winning but Wang just doesn’t look like he has the same stuff nor the ability to locate any of his pitches. As each start passes, you have to wonder if he’ll ever be able to regain his old form.
Joe Morgan is on the smells like team spirit thing again…
Bullpen phone is ringing…..Sorry guys, if The Wang-man is so-so vs. a depleted Met club, that doesn’t bode well ….CB, I agree about Sutcliff being the worst….
another ok start by wang
Will Wang ever be the pitcher he was?? I’m starting to wonder.
Oh Phil Youuuuuse, where are you
You have to wonder what Girardi was thinking in not walking Castillo to get to Livan and you wonder how long Wang can go…he seems to be up in the zone a lot.
The gamble is fine, if you can keep the ball down.
IV drip, not Dow Jones, Chien-Ming!
Anthony
“ever” is a really long time.
How about “By the end of July”?
Patrick,
Everything is up and he has no command.
If he can’t get through this lineup and hold a 3 run lead, it’s pretty tough to see how he is going to work through AL lineups.
I have to keep reminding myself that this ESPN team is not rooting for the other team. It’s just conversation.
Anyway, the Yankees need to score a couple more.
Shucks!
I’ve never seen a pitcher get so many hard outs.
Suzyn telling a story. El Duque said that Livan ate everything on the table even as a kid.
The real question is if Wang is not going to give them more than five innings per start…when do you pull the plug and come up with a mysterious DL stint?
I still prefer the ESPN guys to the FOX guys. No one is more anti-Yankee than Tim McGarver
lol m
Gardner needs to lash one of these outside pitches down the RF line for a double.
livan keeps his outfielders in the game.
run here. run there.
here a ball there a ball.
defensivey he’s fun to play behind.
To answer your jersey question pete: The replicas are cheaper not everyone has $150 to burn on a jersey – especially in this economy.
“Why not walk Castillo to get to Hernandez? Isn’t that what you do in this league?”
So easy to second guess after the fact…..
Bad luck for Melky there. HR in almost any other ballpark.
The Yankees are getting away from their game plan:
hit the ball to Murphy.
There is a story of an old pitcher who just like Wang, was on the fast track to stardom. But all of the sudden, he could not find the strike zone, and was said to have forgotten how to pitch. I can not remember the pitchers name. They also used this guy’s name in regards to former Cubs pitcher Rich Hill, when he couldnt find the strike zone last year.
Believe it or not, Wang is done…he just does not throw strikes anymore. It is not a physical thing…just a mental collapse.
Are you kidding me?
Hey, do any of you have compromising photos of Girardi we could use to blackmail him into removing Cano from the 5 hole.
If I see him hit another ground ball with RISP, I’m going to pull the ten hairs I ahve remaining out of my head.
Very nice heads up play by Livan there.
Um let Gardner try to steal before attempting a bunt. sigh
Melky hits the ball what 405 feet to right center field.
And Phillips has to tell us that that ball would have been out at Yankee stadium.
Which ball park would it have not been out of besides Citi and maybe Petco?
How many times are they going to say “Wright due up 3rd”?
You can let him steal then bunt him over…Or strike out.
BBfan
Some of us second guessed before the fact
I just heard Jeremy Bleich was promoted ? is that true ?
a bunt dp? I have seen it all
Gotta have Hughes getting ready now. If Wang struggles this inning, you gotta pull the plug.
Hopefully, he can give them 2 more innings but, the leash has to be short here.
This is a big inning in this game.
“I just heard Jeremy Bleich was promoted ? is that true ?”
Pete reported that last thread check it out
That ball Melky hit is out of any park, except this one.
BTW what a horrific job by the Yanks trying to move Brett to 2nd, LET HIM STEAL !
Even if Livan caught that ball in the air, it’d have been a double play. Gardner would have gotten doubled off.
Wang should have waited for Gardner to steal. Oh well he needs to hold the lead until we can tack on a few more.
“UPDATE, 9:34 p.m.: The press box at Citi Field (which is poorly designed by the way) is right above a walkway, so you can see fans going back and forth.
Here’s a question I have for you Yankees fans. Why buy a white home jersey with “Jeter” or “Posada” or whatever on the back? Isn’t the cool thing about the Yankees that they don’t have the names on the back? I don’t get it.”
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for me it’s about not confusing who I am trying to support – by 24 is for Tino, not Cano…but I agree, with truly identifiable numbers, I wouldn’t get the name
Facing Livian Hernandez is like facing Tim Wakefield. One night you face someone throwing 92-93, the next night your rhythm is thrown off by someone throwing 75-80!
What hole does Cano belong in then??
Pete, cant agree more about the names on the back of Yankees jerseys. Its truly awful and it makes me question each persons fandom
Wow…Wang basickly stopped running up the line there.
SJ your take on Bleich’s promotion to AA ?
The Yankees are going to keep going with Wang, but as SJ said, if he can’t get it going against the Mets, how is he going to get it done vs. AL teams? I wonder how long they are going to go with Wang? As long as Wang is iffy, Phil has to be his caddy – and that hurts Phil (because he can maybe pitch one or two innings outside of Wang’s games) and it hurts the team.
CitiField has allowed the 6th most HRs. Not very hard to hit a ball out there.
Agreed SJ. Hopefully Wang can at least make it out of the fifth.
Brandon,
Yes, Bleich was promoted to Trenton today. Jason Johnson most likely gets sent up to AAA or released
That called strike was the best pitch Wang threw all night.
What hole does Cano belong in? Any position below 5, Hmmm.
Bunt attempt on the first pitch? Let him steal first.
Bleich was called up to Trenton. I think he is pitching Tuesday night.
Something’s different about Wang right now. He looks better.
“What hole does Cano belong in then??”
Must resist the urge to make inappropriate jokes. Too easy of an opening. Must resist….
And I LIKE Cano
Gardner should have ran with guns blazing. The delay in waiting for the ball to drop seemed to make the DP easier.
“What hole does Cano belong in then??”
IMO you leave Robi there, he either adapts or fails. No in between w/ him.
“Believe it or not, Wang is done…he just does not throw strikes anymore. It is not a physical thing…just a mental collapse.”
where do people get this mental crap ?
he broke his foot and was out for almost a year.
unless his brain is in his foot i don’t see the connection.
Too bad USA lost. It was close though
Cano belong as far as away from A-Rod and the heart of the order as is possible. Too wanton a hacker. He now leads the team in GIDPs, tied with Jeter.
“SJ44
June 28th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Bleich was called up to Trenton. I think he is pitching Tuesday night.”
You think he’s ready for AA ?
Could someone please explain why Cano is batting 5th again?
What has he done positive from that spot that warrants him hitting there again and again and again?
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”
June 28th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
SJ your take on Bleich’s promotion to AA ?
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Personally, I think it’s too soon. Hardly a reason to be rushing him.
Man I love Tex and Alex
Wang seems to be hitting Posada’s glove better here. But still not consistent. I agree with SJ, better get Phil ready fast if needed.
Nice play by Alex.
nice bounce back inning Wang!!!
now go for one more and get your first W of the season!!
very nice inning for wang…lets score some more runs
Now that’s why we have Tex at 1st.
Don’t miss the Big G at all.
It may have benn talked about already…but for some reason it seems that Wang has lost that bulldog mantality of here it is…pound it into the ground type of pitcher.
Great play by Tex…I so do not miss The Big G.
Erica, I LOVE your sense of humor.
You drink beer, eat cold pizza, curse and fart with the boys and I any time.
Erica, I LOVE your sense of humor.
You drink beer, eat cold pizza, curse and fart with the boys and I any time.
If GGBG runs full out, there is a chance to get doubled off, he had to hold up…
“Something’s different about Wang right now. He looks better.”
hes getting tired so his sinker is sinking more and plus last outing only threw about 60 pitches
Randy,
If you look at his delivery, he isnt using that foot to push off like he was last year. It is a mental thing because he is scared to use it to push hard off the mound. He can do it, but he is scared. Plus, I bet his confidence is shot. No confidence what-so-ever.
He simply cant pitch now.
Anyone wanna try Ben Sheets out in late july?
Wang is like a mixed bag of confusion tonight. Some good, some bad, me scratching my head. That was a good inning for him though.
He’s at 80 pitches 46 strikes, 34 balls
randy
The mental problem Want is having is lack of belief in his stuff – caused by getting tattooed earlier on in the season.
His mechanics are all over the place – and he knows it – and that can get into your head after a while….and it’s been a while
“Cano belong as far as away from A-Rod and the heart of the order as is possible. Too wanton a hacker. He now leads the team in GIDPs, tied with Jeter.”
He either adapts or fails. Either way this is his test. They know how important it is for him to get use to that role of hitting w/ RISP in that spot.
terpbomber June 28th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Gardner should have ran with guns blazing. The delay in waiting for the ball to drop seemed to make the DP easier.
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um if he would have caught it and Brett was running full force to second he would have been thrown out at first. It was a poor bunt.
nice rebound by wang…it seems that he’s still a little iffy getting into a consistent arm slot for the sinker. yet he still needs to keep trying to get it to sink
Very effective inning there for Wang. He buys himself entry into the 6th.
Hopefully the bats get going??
I refuse to answer Pete’s jersey question until he takes off that stupid Muts trucker cap.
Randy I, I loss on my over under on Livan making it thru 5….It should have been 6 innings……I wish there was a stat on how many infield throwing errors Texeria has prevented…Like the throw just now by Alex….He’s the best since Mattingly..And I’m not just referring to the Yanks, he’s the best in baseball since Donnie Baseball….
Another great play by Teixeira. Giambi doesn’t catch that and the runner ends up on 2nd.
Just finished reading Canseco’s book, “Juiced.” Interesting tell all by the master steroid teacher!
“Personally, I think it’s too soon. Hardly a reason to be rushing him.”
I was thinking the same.
Brandon,
I love aggressive promotions of college pitchers.
Bleich knows how to pitch. With a guy like that, I’d rather see him take on the challenge of facing AA hitters. That’s how you get better.
Ideally, I like Cano hitting 7th or 8th. He’s more effective down in the order.
Haha the absolute panic when it comes to Wang is just comical to me. He’s given up 2 runs in 5 innings. This is not a bad start people. He’s only at 80 pitches, he will probably get through 6 or 7.
Time to remind Livan that he sucks.
“Something’s different about Wang right now. He looks better.”
That’s the thing – he has’t “lost it” he’s just lost his consistency in his mechanics. It’s really not that complicated.
Those people who think Wang is “done” or that this is “mental” then just aren’t paying enough attention.
If he “lost it” he wouldn’t be able to throw quality pitches. He can throw quality pitches – he’s just not repeating the mechanics that are leading to those quality pitches so he’s not throwing those quality pitches consistently.
If you’re problem is inconsistency but you’re peak performance is still intact then you haven’t “lost it.”
wangerdoodle in line for the win.
e.r.a. watch: 10.18
“Something’s different about Wang right now. He looks better.”
Hes getting tired so his sinker is sinking more
Patrick
Forget the stats for a second – Has Wang looked good to you?
Pete, no one buys the White home jerseys with the names on it becuase those are alot more expensive for the ones with the names, you would think less material would be cheaper, aparently not.
kill-schill(ing)
June 28th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Erica, I LOVE your sense of humor.
You drink beer, eat cold pizza, curse and fart with the boys and I any time.
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Awesome. Its always nice when someone appreciates my jokes. And the sick part is I would probably accept that invitation. LOL. Sounds like a whole lot of fun to me
ggbg
He’s looked good off and on. The hallmark of a good pitcher is being able to get outs when you don’t have your best stuff or best control. That’s what Wang is doing tonight. Results are all that matter. If he gets through 1-2 more innings and doesn’t give up any runs, that’s a good start.
C
Disagree there – his velocity went up in that inning to 93-94. I thinke he clicked on his old mechanics for that 5 minute stretch. Lets see if he carries it over to next inning.
Did JB Cox really quit? If it was because of injuries I could maybe understand, but damn…
Tex is so good defensively, it’s scary. If he doesn’t win the Gold Glove this year, there ought to be an investigation.
Couple things Pete-
a) great point about the jerseys, no real fan has a jersey with the name on it- but why stop at the “white” jerseys, the road jerseys with names are just as infuriating-
b) doesn’t make much sense to steal gardner and bunt to third there- with 1 out the chance that he gets thrown out (we just saw schneider toss out robby and livan is tough to run on) is greater than the added value of having him at 3rd with 2 outs-
I see Noesi was promoted to Tampa, Betances went on the DL and Corban Joseph 2nd HR WOOT !
P.S. GB what’s going on w/ Abe ?
“Anyone wanna try Ben Sheets out in late july?”
Working out with Texas, but yes I’d be interested. Bad mechanics caused his elbow injury, but he’s only 30 yo.
Yanks will need 3-4 more runs to win this game.
“Here’s a question I have for you Yankees fans. Why buy a white home jersey with “Jeter” or “Posada” or whatever on the back? Isn’t the cool thing about the Yankees that they don’t have the names on the back? I don’t get it. ”
The ones without the name are “authentic” jerseys and cost twice as much as the ones with the names.
One of the worst things about JB is that he was a second round pick, if I remember correctly.
“his velocity went up in that inning to 93-94. I thinke he clicked on his old mechanics for that 5 minute stretch. Lets see if he carries it over to next inning.”
So all of a sudden – out of the blue – for that one inning Wang stopped being “scared?”
Because if you believe the fundamental problem with him is that he is now “scared” due to the shellacking he took you’d have to infer that magically he stopped being scared for that 5 minute period.
Compared to inconsistency in his mechanics, that’s quite a doozy of an inference.
“C
Disagree there – his velocity went up in that inning to 93-94. I thinke he clicked on his old mechanics for that 5 minute stretch. Lets see if he carries it over to next inning.”
that could be his fastball his sinker is not 93-94, his sinker has always been 90-92 even when he was a 19 game winner
Ok, we need to score in this inning.
CB, how long do you go with Wang, though? I believe the Yankees need him, but they need the good Wang…….and we really don’t know when or if we’re going to see him. He’s facing the Mets – what happens when he faces really good hitting teams? The problem is the Yankees have Wang and Andy in their rotation -and Andy has been pretty bad for a significant period of time. Do you see any indication of Andy turning the corner? Even if AJ and CC pitch lights out, it’s going to be near impossible to win with two ? like Wang and Andy (plus a kid in Joba). Of course, as much as I love Phil, he’s a kid too and bound to be up and down. There are no easy answers, I fear.
It would be nice if the Yankees could score….3 runs, nothing since the first?
Thank God Tex is up so Girardi doesn’t get some insane idea to bunt
cmon tex!
Patrick
For most pitchers, that’s the standard. After what’s happened to Wang this year, he’s got a different standard. He doesn’t need results as much as he needs to have consistent velocity, mechanics and sink.
He has to have those good basics – the results will follow.
Just walk everyone Livan. It’s all good
Great base running
Great base running for both runners.
Boy that Nick Swisher is a terrible baserunner.
smart play Swish!
That was heads up running by Swisher. I like it
wow nice base running swish!
It’s not just about results. He’s also facing a very compromised lineup and his mechanics are all over the place.
So far, at least to me, he looked better in Atlanta.
Swish is a little scary on the basepaths…good gamble I guess.
“Anyone wanna try Ben Sheets out in late july?”
this guy has ace stuff i will give him a try
BTW, Wang looks wayyyyyyyyy better than at the beginning of the season. Look, whether there was an injury or some weakness or something, that could be. Clearly Wang went through some mental issues as well with his confidence. Whether the phsyical stuff lead to the mental part or vice versa, w/e, he is coming around it’s obvious. He lost his confidence, he didn’t forget how to pitch. When u are that extremely bad it obviously really got to him. Slowly but surely it looks like he’s getting better. He has more work to do but he’s improving.
” It is a mental thing because he is scared to use it to push hard off the mound. He can do it, but he is scared. Plus, I bet his confidence is shot”
let me get this straight. he’s throwing as hard as joba chamberlain, but he’s not pushing off the rubber.
and you can tell he’s scared.
what’s that occam thing about the simplest of explanations ?
HE BROKE HIS FOOT AND HE’S HAD 4 STARTS SINCE REHABBING .
“I love aggressive promotions of college pitchers.
Bleich knows how to pitch. With a guy like that, I’d rather see him take on the challenge of facing AA hitters. That’s how you get better.”
Agree.
“Ideally, I like Cano hitting 7th or 8th. He’s more effective down in the order.”
Like you said about aggresiveness w/ Bleich, that’s my take on Robi, you put it there and if after 150 ABs he fails to show anything you then know who he is. But this is a challenge to Robi, right here they will walk Alex and go after Robi. Now you will learn if it’s a challenge he can take.
Ugh, it’s going to come down to Cano with the bases loaded.
an a-bomb….?
Of course they will walk him to get to Cano.
get at least one in here…
It should take the bat out of A-Rod’s hands.
Hit the ball to Murphy! Don’t get away from the game plan.
IF I’m Manuel, I’d walk A-Rod and have no fear that Cano will get a big hit. He’ll hit into GIDP.
IF I’m Manuel, I’d walk A-Rod and have no fear that Cano will get a big hit. He’ll hit into GIDP.
Swisher’s best spot in the line up is batting second. For the most part I don’t think line up order matters but Swisher’s value is so locked into his OBP that having him up before Tex and Alex are the best way to maximize what he does well while minimizing his limitations.
MAKE THEM PAY ROBBIE!!!
Something tells me that if your mechanics are out of whack at 30, they are never changing…
Not able to watch
ESPN radio
Don’t trade Wang, Brandon
I really hope Cano makes Manuel sorry for this….
oh no lol
Patrick- head to the place right by the B/D station- they have replicas with no name on the back for $70
Pete – you are right – I have a Jeter jersey but the #2 will suffice
GGBG sorry but you’re wrong. It is foolish to hold Wang to a different standard. Results are all that matter.
And even if you look purely at his stuff you shouldn’t be so pessimistic. His velocity is fine, it’s been at 91-94 all game which is vintage Wang. His mechanics have been all over the place but at times his sinker is nice.
Considering his mechanics have been off and on, he’s pitched a good game so far. I’d like to see another inning, maybe two out of him.
NO GIDP ROBI. Please.
Big AB fir Cano here. Gotta get at least a run this inning.
Cano with basesloaded… hes life time .200 batter with basesloaded
get that average over 300 robbie!
c’mon Robbie – pretend you’re Melky
i’d be happy with a sac fly from Robbie.
Good patience for Cano. Wish he would do that more often.
“Here’s a question I have for you Yankees fans. Why buy a white home jersey with “Jeter” or “Posada” or whatever on the back? Isn’t the cool thing about the Yankees that they don’t have the names on the back? I don’t get it. ”
Yeah, but I can’t afford the authentic Jersey’s right now.
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Lovely DP, Cano. Sheesh.
Why did Robbie swing.
Awful
Need I say it again?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Aargh!
Or GIDP against a guy who has completely lost the zone. We need another run. Do we see Hughes now?
Why is Cano batting 5th again?
stop hitting the ball so hard at people
Cano’s been hitting double play stuff all day. lol
It’s a process.
He hit the ball hard, what more can you ask?
Cano
LOL Cano…….
ahhh- can’t aim the ball but find something to hit in the air on a 2-0 count in that spot
Hit hard but a DP. Can we please stop this experiment? Cano has done NOTHING with men on base. I don’t think he has even driven in a run since the Nats series.
He knew they’d be throwing stuff at him that he’d just pound into the ground. He should’ve just held it there and take some pitches. Awful.
I didn’t get on Jeter when he wore the GIDP championship belt, so I won’t get on Cano.
Let’s go Wanger.
can joe please get cano out of the 5th spot already. This is terrible. He needs to be dropped to 7th.
Hey, Yankee Trader, still wish to play the gratuitous contraian?
It’s really hard to hammer Cano for hitting the ball hard two out of three at bats, but, I’m sure there will be enough that will.
who didn’t see that coming?
all 3 cano outs were balls away
what a waste.
SA-
How do you get the demon face?
its time to get posada or swisher behind arod. cano cannot get big at bats he is such a choker and terrible situational hitter
that DP is probably going to cost Wang a win. We’ll see.
UPDATE, 9:59 p.m.: Yes, walking him. Now will Cano go 4-6-3 or 6-4-3?
Pete you should have boxed all number combos. You would have won with 6-6-3.
Got to get get him out of the 5 hole starting Tuesday or he will hit into 50 DP’s this year.
Can’t beat a 2-0 pitch into the ground in that situation. Horrible hitting.
Betsy, Your points sum up exactly my feelings as well….At some point Spring Training is over for Wang…By the All-Star break a decision will be made….He throws too many hittable pitches, or pitches that can be squared up….I believe in him, however after tonight The Yanks are still trailing The BoSox by 3 games……However he looks much better than he did even 2 weeks ago…..Tough decision to make….I say give him until the break…
was that ball that cano swung at ball 3?
he is trying to overtake jeter for GIDP champion.
stupid cano
unbelievable…Robbie – the new GiDP machine
cano sucks bottom line. with bases loaded now he is 240.. he needs to be moved out of the 5 spot.
he is a mental retart.
he is a joke and just sucks…disgrace…should have 3 DP’s in a game.. the guy will never learn because he has a pea for a brain……
“tommy h June 28th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Couple things Pete-
a) great point about the jerseys, no real fan has a jersey with the name on it- but why stop at the “white” jerseys, the road jerseys with names are just as infuriating-”
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I’m not calling you a Debbie Downer Tommy but its funny reading about “real fans” on a board with quite a few folks who abandon ship at the smell of a slump let alone a horrible season.
“Something tells me that if your mechanics are out of whack at 30, they are never changing…”
Something tells me that if his mechanics were fine through the ages of 25-29 and he got hurt the probability is that his mechanics will return.
You make it sound like he’s some 30 year old Jose Veras type pitcher who has always had poor mechanics.
You don’t need 150+ ABs to tell you he can’t hit high in the order. His career avg of .240 with bases loaded tells enough.
Vito b what the hell he hit it hard up the middle it’s just bang bang there.
Meanwhile, Cano is freaking brutal with RISP this season. He shouldn’t be hitting ahead of Posada right now. Posada is the much hotter hitter- why wouldn’t u want him behind A-Rod right now???? Ugh. Not to mention Cano has been dealing with an injury.
Cano has officially become Jeter #2 who constantly hit into DP last year.
in all seriousness- I challenge anyone to name a lazier, more uncaring, selfish player than Cano. I cannot believe that they could have traded this lazy bum for Kemp a few years ago…
Not to be overly negative, but that was a big spot. We haven’t been able to break Hernandez past the first inning, and I just get the feeling that working out of bases loaded, one out with a DP is going to be a momentum changer. Wang hasn’t looked good tonight. Serviceable, sure, but not good. We’ll see.
Pitching change?
Yea Robbie can’t hit with men on. If he could actually draw some walks he’d be a candidate for a leadoff hitter… sucks. No good place really to put him in the lineup.
I’m tired of Cano – and yes, I’m saying this out of frustration. He’s a good hitter…….but he’s not as good as I’ve thought all along and he’s hopeless in big situations. I don’t know why Joe continues to bat him 5th. Also, I was right about Livan getting past the 5th.
Sad……
Cano has become the new DP machine taking the belt away from Jeter!
cano needs to get the same crutiny the high priced guys get.
really after almost 4 yrs. he has plateud. he actually was best in his 2nd year. since then he actually has declined……
“Why is Cano batting 5th again?”
To compete with Captain DP, for GIDPs
Robinson Cano — you suck so hard.
I heard Robi got a double last night. With someone on base, right?
Tonight has been really bad for him. You would think he’s such a good hitter that at some point, the tide has to turn for him. So, do you continue to be patient, hoping?
Also, as it turns out, the great baserunning play – moving up on the fly ball – was not good, leaving the open base for a guy who hits Livan very well.
I hate Sheffield.
“he is a mental retart.
he is a joke and just sucks…disgrace…should have 3 DP’s in a game.. the guy will never learn because he has a pea for a brain……”
Why you gotta go there stuart ? Srsly why
Donnie-
I am upset with you. Why aren’t you meeting Wright or Sheffield under the O’Neill banner??
seriously come on people…cano smacked the hell out of that…there are some dp’s that are bad hitting..not that one…
but that is bad fielding wang…let jeter get it
wang with the fielding F up and the bunt f up.
he is hanging on by a thread..
this can turn bad fast…….
Wang’s not helping his own cause with that unnecessary fielding.
Thanks Wang
according to gameday…that ball that cano swung at was a ball….outside.
With the exception of Jeter, Cano has the highest GO/AO ratio of any player on the team. He’s a walking (or in his case, a NEVER walking, GIDP.)
interesting how this thread just went nuts with negative threads from people who havent posted much if at all tonight lol
cano for the love of this board, dont do that again! lol
You don’t get better chances to score than with your 5th hitter up w/the bases loaded. The Yankees often screw up these “easy” runs.
Anyway, Wang needs a DP here.
Doreen – Too many people have selective memories.
Erica
: evil :
Without the spaces
Cano hit the ball hard but he reached for it out of the zone. That was ball 3 and it wasn’t even close to the plate.
Also- we have all seen this game before: mets will put up a 3-spot here and win the game. Yanks had their chance to win this game and now they will lose. Its plainly obvious to anyone who has watched this team on a consistent basis. Oh, and get Wang out of there. He is dont, doesnt deserve another start. With this stuff against the sox, rays or jays its 5 runs minimum
Man, would have almost been better to have ARod come up with the bases loaded and have nowhere to put him, than Robbie there.
Erica,
Because I forgot to change it before I posted, haha…I had actually changed it to Sheff for my next post, and then saw your comment.
Cano now leads the Yankees with 11 GIDPs.
Pat M, I’m ok with giving Wang until the break, but I think he’s in the rotation permanently unless he completely falls apart.
No game is ever easy with the Yankees -
Thanks for the gift Jerry
Thank you SA-
Beware- I can make scary faces now.. hahahahaha
With a guy possessing an85 MPH fastball, you think driving it in the air, not on the ground.
He’s just not a #5 hitter. Should be but, he isn’t.
I take Wang out here.
“Cano hit the ball hard but he reached for it out of the zone. That was ball 3 and it wasn’t even close to the plate.”
but that who cano is…hes never going to change…it helps him a lot…but it also hurts him
Are they ever gonna let Wang throw 90-95-100 pitches?
Giradi loves his Coke
Livan Hernandez is the master of the loud out. I count 7 so far and I just started watching in the 3rd inning.
Is Hughes okay to pitch? Or is he too sick? I know he said he is alright, but has Girardi said he was available?
Why take Wang out? He’s never going to get to 100 pitches at this rate.
Girardi*
See ya, Wanger. They should put you on the next steamship back to Korea
I’m still laughing at mental retart.
people in glass houses….
“No game is ever easy with the Yankees”
except for the last 2 games right?
Kind of silly to take Wang out at this point. He’s only at 85 pitches. He gives up a fluke base hit to Sheff so that means he’s done?
Girardi has done a terrible job managing the pitching staff this season.
Excellent Donnie-
I was hoping you’d go with Sheffield
That’s it for Wang
85 pitches 49 strikes, 36 balls 10.06 ERA
Hey Brandon, its not because of his last at bat, check his stats all year. He has been horrible with risp all year. I don’t even think he is above .200 any more. And a .240 career average with the bases loaded. Do you want that for a five hole hitter? He is a good hitter, but he doesn’t need to be batting fifth. Just because he hit it hard doesn’t mean he is exempt from blame. He should have taken the 2-0 pitch with a pitcher struggling to find the zone and had walked jeter and swisher just before.
Well…not as bad as I thought it would be. Decent job Wanger!
When I hear clowns like stuart question the mental capacity of our players, I’m sorry that’s something that gets me. Every time if Robi has a gaff it’s always about his lack of baseball intelligence meanwhile I have to listen to posting retards like stuart.
Joe is way too stubborn batting Cano in the 5th spot
I think Cano should be in the two hole.
I hope the coke is nice and pure tonight.
Sheets has been on the DL like 7 times in his career.
Oh, Joe. You kill me. F-Mart hitting .174.
Well, at least Wang won’t get another loss.
Good call by Girardi, I support Wang but he’s making it difficult to remain confident with the inconsistency of his pitches tonight. 1 run lead and Wang’s terrible pitching from the stretch.
P.S. I hate Cano.
Is Philly Blunt available tonight? Would be nice to see him pitch in a pressure situation for once
“See ya, Wanger. They should put you on the next steamship back to Korea”
if ur gonna bash him at least know where hes from
Carl,
If Wang confidently pitches and finds the zone better, then yes. He’s been VERY erratic tonight, despite only giving up 2 runs. A better offense would probably have 3, 4, or maybe more runs at this point.
Betsy,
Since Wang has come off of the DL his ERA has been 5.38.
Up until his recent streak of games, AJ Burnett’s ERA was around 5.50. AJ’s mechanics often looked terrible. So bad that he was close to leading the AL in walks and wild pitches. In addition he wasn’t giving them the innings they were expecting.
Given that what were you’re thoughts on removing AJ from the rotation? And what was your timeline for when to take him out of the rotation?
How can John say he pitched well? I’m sorry. Yes he only gave up two runs. But I don’t think he pitched well.
Jeter
Swisher
Tex
Arod
Damon
Posada
Cano
Melky/Garder
Matsui
LOL @ TAKING WANG OUT…. 85 pitches and then the hook when he’s not pitching poorly at all…. When are people going to realize that all Girardi can do is screw things up… he doesn’t add anything to this team at all… all does he put Phil Coke in that is his only move… no way Wang should be out right now
Ralphie, 2 games? Compared to the rest of the season? Joe’s trying to win the game, I don’t blame him for taking Wang out…….
coke is wild as usual
Wang with the lead, leaves…
Girardi’s mind is made up…
A lefty called Coke…
Erica – newly OPPC June 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Thank you SA-
Beware- I can make scary faces now.. hahahahaha
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You can find some more smiles here
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Please don’t walk Martinez.
Interesting that it’s Coke and not Hughes….
“in all seriousness- I challenge anyone to name a lazier, more uncaring, selfish player than Cano. I cannot believe that they could have traded this lazy bum for Kemp a few years ago…”
That trade scenario was only developed on this site. There was no hint that a straight swap was in the works.
Maybe you’d like the fine fielding Chuck Knoblach back!
remember when everyone wanted Cano hitting before Posada?
Coke even points in the air on foul balls.. .lol
CB, lol – touche.
wow
Please tell me you know Korea and Taiwan aren’t the same country.
This is where Wang hurts you.
Three run lead against a bad lineup and the walks and deep counts keep him from going deep into the game.
Pat M,
I think I give him until the break. If the improvement isn’t there, they are going to have to make a change.
Hope it doesn’t get to that.
YUUUUUSE.
Philly!
good job coke..did your job…lets go hughes!!!
SA-
Sending me that link opens up a whole world of possibilities. Thank you
I love how before this season, if he had qualified (he was a few decisions short) Wang would have had the best winning percentage in baseball history. Now this season after a brutal start, he is still being treated like he is a second class citizen on this team…. he was the freaking ace for over 2 seasons…. If I’m this guy the second I can, I’m gone from the Yankees. They did a horrible job handling him earlier this season and it’s just continuing.
Yusssssssssseee
Youuuuuuuse!
Hopefully Hughes is on tonight and can give us two innings.
I have very strong feelings about Cano right now, but he’s not lazy, uncaring or selfish. I can differentiate between not executing and not caring…
GreenBeret7
June 28th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
It’s really hard to hammer Cano for hitting the ball hard two out of three at bats, but, I’m sure there will be enough that will.
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Cano can’t pull the ball right now because of the wrist. That’s why everything is being pounded into the dirt.
He shouldn’t be in the 5-hole because he can’t whip his wrists.
It’s obvious there’s an issue with the left wrist and it’s hancuffed his swing. It’s not really a “slump” or related to where he is hitting in the lineup. He’s playing through some kind of injury, thus the tape and the ice he’s had on it for a few weeks.
Come on, Phranchise
Please, Joe. Keep it simple.
I feel something disastrous coming. I hope I’m wrong.
Is my memory really foggy, or didn’t Girardi say they were going to try to not bring in Hughes mid-inning????
Yeah here we go again 3 hits into the seventh inning. Livan Hernandez the smoke and mirror machine. Professional ballplayers – Eesh. One rule, don’t overswing, yeah right.
“Ralphie, 2 games? Compared to the rest of the season? Joe’s trying to win the game, I don’t blame him for taking Wang out…….”
you said they never make it easy…which isnt true…i never said anything about not agreeing with taking wang out…i was in favor of it too
Pete Phil has been warming up for a while. he is fine.
Erica – newly OPPC June 28th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
SA-
Sending me that link opens up a whole world of possibilities. Thank you
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Uh Oh!
I guess Phil will have to hit for himself when his turn comes up, even if there are RISP……go Phil!
Taiwan is a city in South Korea. Duh.
Wang is Tawainese, you pusillanimous ninconpoop.
I’m curious about Girardi’s double-switch. Good, bad, indifferent? Certainly unorthodox.
How bad is ESPN? They still haven’t said who Damon replaced Gardner or Melky?
So is this what we have to look forward to this season with the Wanger?
uhhh long counts gets him out the game early? He threw 85 pitches. THere is no reason by now that Wang couldn’t go 100+
These are the right moves. Wang gave up a well hit double to Martinez in his last AB.
Martinez can’t hit lefties.
I love the Hughes move. High leverage situation. Let’s see how he does.
“Why take Wang out? He’s never going to get to 100 pitches at this rate.”
Because we want to win this game.
BOOO Joe took Swisher out. I guess right now Joe values D over power.
SJ44 he was perfectly capable of getting through the 6th and going into the 7th but Girardi felt need to give him the hook. He was only at 85 pitches..
Nice! 1 pitch, 1 out.
Yuuuuuusssssssssssss
good job hughes!!! too easy for ya!
GJ Phil
Wang is showing improvement every game…
I’m sure many of you who are killing him are the same ones who a few weeks ago were b burying AJ as a bust.
Hey…we got the 3rd best record in baseball…
Have some patience and root for your players!
One pitch, one out…….lol
Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse!
SJ44
If you blinked you missed how he did. It was that quick.
Wow, Phil IS good!
i think they took out swisher
Can we please get some more runs?
Not for anything, but Girardi also said in the pregame that Damon was not available to come off the bench tonight at all.
At what point does the Girardi double speak stop?
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”
June 28th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
When I hear clowns like stuart question the mental capacity of our players, I’m sorry that’s something that gets me. Every time if Robi has a gaff it’s always about his lack of baseball intelligence meanwhile I have to listen to posting retards like stuart.
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Knicks it’s just as bad in the “other” place.
For starters, Cano’s got some kind of wrist injury.
As for Stuart, well….his posts speak for themselves.
PAT M, have you seen Higashioka’s first 5 game totals at Staten Island, yet? Not a bad start at .292 and 4 RBI with just 1 strikeout. This is after tonight’s game.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=543309
Patrick. Come on. Did you really have faith that Wang could get through that inning. He is facing the mets C lineup and hasn’t looked all that good. You get him out, and try to get him the W.
“Why take Wang out? He’s never going to get to 100 pitches at this rate.”
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I think it is simply a matter of the Yankees brass fearing an implosion that would take away every bit of confidence (no matter how little) he has regained. Taking him out there puts him in position to win and at the absolute worst get a no decision.
Letting him possibly fall to 0-7 may lead to him never being even a shell of what he was.
You guys do realize that part of the reason for taking him out at 85 pitches is because he isn’t ready to go 95-100 yet, right? Maybe in his next start, but not yet.
lol @ SJ44 saying those are the right moves…. as if Coke and Phil HUghes should automatically start being terrible and not get people out just because Girardi took out Wang way too early for no reason? Get a clue
“Taiwan is a city in South Korea. Duh.”
Post of the decade
I guess having the lead when Wang left the game was as much as we could hope for. When was the last time that happened?
The idea us to win the game and not get Wang’s pitch count up. It’s not ST anymore.
Now, you have Hughes for the 7th and 8th.
Made all the right moves that inning.
O ya he isn’t strong enough to throw 100 pitches yet LOL ok yeah his 85th pitch was that much worse, and slow, and less effective than his first? No. Girardi just doesn’t trust him enough yet bottom line. Wang could have, physically, easily gone 100 pitches tonight.
I’d rather win the game then let Wang get to 95-100 pitches just because he can……….Phil may do badly tonight, but I feel more comfortable with him on the mound than Wang.
“I have very strong feelings about Cano right now, but he’s not lazy, uncaring or selfish. I can differentiate between not executing and not caring…”
That’s where the criticism of Cano is so unwarranted. He’s been terrible with men on base for a while and it’s more than fair to call him on that lack of execution.
But with Robbi there’s always that bizarre interpretation of him not getting the job done because he’s lazy or stupid.
Meanwhile Nick Swisher is hitting .200 so far this year with RISP. He’s getting on base a lot by walking with RISP but he’s not driving in many runs at all by himself.
But you rarely hear the same vitriol with him.
It’s really bizarre.
“Knicks it’s just as bad in the “other” place.
For starters, Cano’s got some kind of wrist injury.
As for Stuart, well….his posts speak for themselves.”
It’s disgusting IMHO. Those are disgraceful fans. And yeh I know about his hurt wrist too.
“Kind of silly to take Wang out at this point. He’s only at 85 pitches. He gives up a fluke base hit to Sheff so that means he’s done?”
patrick-
i would have liked to see him stay in there to get up to a hundred pitches, but girardi’s managing like his job is in jeopardy which may be true.
i wish like in spring training they’d have him go to the bullpen and throw another inning.
is it just me or does it feel like we’re hitting everything hard and right at people?
TylerKepner: Do fans trust this NYY bullpen yet? Because it’s gotten pretty good. And whatever else you think about Girardi, he’s good at running a pen.
You’re wrong bro, and there is no use arguing w/ a brick wall…. Bottom line Girardi and the Yankees have insulted Wang this entire season, and tonight was a perfect opportunity for him to improve his pitch count even more and they yanked him. He wasn’t gassed. He was prematurely pulled out of the game, and if you don’t agree w/ that, well you’re wrong. Sorry.
wow
June 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Taiwan is a city in South Korea. Duh.
OR
wow is an intelligent Lohud poster. Duh.
Which comment is correct?
Trick question: the answer is neither.
C
I’d like to think they were being sarcastic.
Come on O- is there a reason we can’t put up a crooked number here? Lot of stress on the pen for the last 3 innings here-
Winning the game is tantamount not what Wang’s pitch count is. Girardi made the correct moves, imo. Wang was one wrong move away from a tie game or worse. BP is fresh why not use them?
Can we tack on some runs???
Whats funny is that people are trying to say that Wang pitched well. Thats rich. The Mets are fielding perhaps the worst hitting lineup in all of MLB the past 5 seasons and he couldnt get through 6… the same exact performace against a half-way decent lineup and he goes 5IP with 5ER at best. Wang is done, folks
wow June 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Taiwan is a city in South Korea. Duh.
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Wang has been more than good enough tonight. The Yankees offense, however, has been disgracefully bad.
No excuse for what Cano keeps doing. He is just not a 5th hitter, when will Girardi realize this “common sense” fact? He hits under .220 with RISP!
Even if he throws you a strike on 2-0, he is in the SAME position on 2-1. He still has to throw you a strike! His chance of throwing ball 3 is just as great as his chance of throwing strike 1 in that spot. With 2 outs, I understand that because you need a hit to score. But you just need a fly ball, and being overaggressive and helping him out is just stupid baseball.
Cano presses with runners on base. So let’s bat him in the 5 hole! Brilliant logic! If he hit even .250 with RISP, he’d be one of the top in the league in RBI.
He’s not perfectly capable leaving as many pitches ip in the zone as he did tonight.
If he faced an AL lineup and pitched like he did tonight, he would have gotten hammered.
They got him out at the right time.
CB, it’s true about Swish, but I remember Kevin McReynolds having the very same problem in NY. He made things look easy and because of that, he came under the gun for not trying……I was no Met fan, but I thought that was unfair. During the Yankees recent streak of terrible play, it would have been easy to say they didn’t care, that they just mailed it in. Well, I don’t believe any Yankee team would do that – ok, they had bad approaches at bat and sometimes I just wanted to scream at them through the tv, but accusing quality professionals about not caring is just unfair and way over the top.
getting Wang a Win is important. Getting a W woild mean a lot to the Korean
LOL he almost got that.
According to that fancy scoreboard thingie the Mets acutally have more hits than the Yankees…what the heck is that?
Wang was Kim Jong Ill’in it tonight.
I’m sorry, but who cares about improving Wang’s pitch count? The idea is to try and win games….let Wang throw some more pitches in the pen (like AJ did a couple of times in ST when he didn’t throw enough) if need be. If Phil has a bad game, it was still the right move.
Maybe we can get something going against the Mets bullpen. Damon, Jeter, Swisher due up in the 8th.
Need Phil to shut them down now.
Pitcher of record
Wang’s long wait almost over
Sunrise in Taiwan
Nick – asked this before – how often do you move locations! You are forever checking in from someplace new!
The sun doesn’t rise in North Korea (where Wang is from)
I can’t believe the posts here defending Wang’s performance. Yes, he only gave up 2 runs but pitching like this against, oh, let’s say, … hmmmm, the Red Sox? He’d be out of the game in the 2nd inning.
“Maybe we can get something going against the Mets bullpen. Damon, Jeter, Swisher due up in the 8th.
Need Phil to shut them down now.”
its damon,jeter and hughes
It’s more important to get the Yankees a win, not Wang. He had 3 run lead against a depleted lineup and barely hung on to not even get through 6. We had people killing AJ for dominating the same lineup yesterday (because it wasn’t the Sox)………hmm, the smell of hypocrisy?
“i would have liked to see him stay in there to get up to a hundred pitches, but girardi’s managing like his job is in jeopardy which may be true.”
What has Wang done this year to have trust that he won’t blow the game? Why is it a referendum on Girardi’s job?
We need to win every winnaable game to keep up with the rest of the teams to stay in the race. Is it that difficult to understand, irrespective of the unjustified love for wang? He is being given every chance to succeed. They could have easily buried him in the BP, given how well Hughes is pitching.
rs Swish is out of the game. Hughes would be due up 3rd.
Betsy,
I brought up that comparison between Wang and the way AJ looked earlier in the year because the two of them remind me a bit of each other.
AJ was a mess with his mechanics. His shoulder kept flying open over and over and over. And that’s why he didn’t get the results. His mechanics are now more consistent and he’s been great.
With Wang it’s more complicated due to the lay off from the injury.
But tonight Wang’s mechanics were very inconsistent and his command suffered due to that.
its going to come down to Mo vs Wright for his 500th save
UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: Look at that Joe Girardi messing with Jerry Manuel. One pitch, one out for the Franchise.
If you’re scoring at home — and good for you — Hughes in the second spot and Damon hitting ninth. I want to see Hughes hit. He claims he’s the best hitting pitcher on the team not named CC Sabathia.
Has MLB tested Mr. Met for steroids? I guarantee you he is on them.
http://www.realgmbaseball.com/.....ming_wang/
GB, Kyle very well could be the Yanks catcher in 4 years….He’s fundamentally a better catcher than both Austin & Montero….To think it was 1 year ago this month that I watched him catch Cole…He also hit a dinger that game….I always thought he was the steal of the draft…
Hahaha. I like how ESPN made that look like a really old game instead of two weeks ago
I thought Wang was Taiwanese?
That’s where the criticism of Cano is so unwarranted. He’s been terrible with men on base for a while and it’s more than fair to call him on that lack of execution.
But with Robbi there’s always that bizarre interpretation of him not getting the job done because he’s lazy or stupid.
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Right. When other players don’t come through, people complain but they never insult the player’s intelligence or work ethic.
If the player is Cano – or Cabrera – it’s the same epithets: “lazy, stupid.”
People who say this are either willful bigots, or they robotically, uncritically repeat the opinions of willful bigots.
I’ll bet Wang can’t wait until he gets back home to Taiwan. Bofy will he be surprised when he finds out they moved the whole island to Korea. Do they know whether it’s North or South Korea?
Wang did not pitch well overall, but for the most part managed to get outs when he needed them. A couple of DP balls that I don’t remember him getting in his past few starts. Not all bad.
Where is Randy, The ghost of Livan is making the Yankees look stupid. Never mind Cano making outs on pitches six inches out of the strike zone.
jennifer
June 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Has MLB tested Mr. Met for steroids? I guarantee you he is on them.
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I think you are on to something. He does have an abnormally large head
GVR
June 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
I thought Wang was Taiwanese?
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he is
Bofy will he be surprised
Not only bofy, but, boy.
um, Hughes…outs
Wow. Just wow.
Hughes…to the 8th? MAJOR FAIL
That was right down the middle, at the knees. Is this ump blind?
Hughes is getting squeezed. At least 2 of those 4 balls were strikes that were allowed as balls because of the batter’s body language. Bending down to bunt does not put the ball out of the zone.
Where was that pitch?
In fact, didn’t the Pittsburgh bird mascot try to bite off Kim Jones’ head last season??
That was definitely roid rage
Terrible ump, that was a stirke
Come on Phil
why walk castillo? doesn’t make much sense to me
“To think it was 1 year ago this month that I watched him catch Cole…”
I remember that post. Future yankee battery… I think that’s what we talked about.
Good to see Kyle get off to this strong start.
Giddy up!!!! ARod!!!
soo lucky!
That was a great pick buy Jeter!
Nice play at second.
jeter saving arod
Man the way the Yanks are playing defense this year…just wow
GREAT play by both Alex AND Derek. Heads up throw by Alex, great dig to save Alex’s hide by Derek.
“I’m sorry, but who cares about improving Wang’s pitch count?”
i do because the sooner it get up to over a hundred the better for his conditioning. throwing a hundred pitches would build up his strength and conditioning.
i have no problem with girardi taking him out though because he could have kept throwing in the bullpen.
… and 85 pitches will build strength too.
Um John and Suzy no credit to Alex for making that play?
man arod has looked great in the field since his two days off.
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
June 28th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
That’s where the criticism of Cano is so unwarranted. He’s been terrible with men on base for a while and it’s more than fair to call him on that lack of execution.
But with Robbi there’s always that bizarre interpretation of him not getting the job done because he’s lazy or stupid.
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Right. When other players don’t come through, people complain but they never insult the player’s intelligence or work ethic.
If the player is Cano – or Cabrera – it’s the same epithets: “lazy, stupid.”
People who say this are either willful bigots, or they robotically, uncritically repeat the opinions of willful bigots.
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I wonder why that is? When there is smoke there is usally fire. No one is racist against friggin dominican. Quit your reverse racism
So, just to summarize some of the persistent themes:
Wang is “scared”
Hughes is “mentally weak”
Jorge is “selfish”
Cano/Melky are “stupid/lazy.”
Really. Just LOL.
Time to reel in that ugly third win
Gosh. Why is it so quiet in the stadium?
Geography much?
http://www.welt-atlas.de/daten.....0-9016.gif
“Bofy will he be surprised
Not only bofy, but, boy.”
GB – I thought you were going to work Mr. French into that one too.
“Um John and Suzy no credit to Alex for making that play?”
They gave him credit. Said it was a big gamble that paid off. It WAS a big gamble, and it DID pay off because Alex took it, but that was a really bad throw.
Risha: I answered last night. I move around often. I’m a passenger right now, thankfully.
Betsy, you’re missing the big picture: save Wang, save the season.
Who did Alex look like charging in down the line on that bunt?
Keith Hernandez?
Someone should ask him about it. He could say Alex looked stiff and lacked range on that play.
No one is racist against friggin dominican.
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Oh, ok. Thanks for giving me the lowdown. I feel much, much better about the agendas of those people now.
Cora makes me nervous for some reason. He has tough AB’s and seems like a pesky hitter.
Pat M.
June 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
GB, Kyle very well could be the Yanks catcher in 4 years….He’s fundamentally a better catcher than both Austin & Montero….To think it was 1 year ago this month that I watched him catch Cole…He also hit a dinger that game….I always thought he was the steal of the draft…
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I’m anxious to see him play here in the Savannah/Charleston area. Weems just isn’t going to make it, so, hopefully Higashioka gets a promotion around the middle to late July.
Hughes hitting 96. Velocity is VERY good.
“it DID pay off because Alex took it, but that was a really bad throw.”
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it’s harder to charge full speed in one direction and then spin around and make a throw.
as long as it’s straight, an infielder should be able to scoop it.
A stupid Mets fan at my beach club today tried to convince me that 1986 Keith Hernandez was better than 1998 Tino.
Thoughts anyone?
is wang the first ever MLB player from Malaysia?
more wang possible trade talk
http://www.mlbdailydish.com/20.....nkees-wang
Damn.
YOUSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE
Phil hanging tough! Good job.
Hughes.
That is all.
Huuuuughes!
Brace yourselves for Francesa tomorrow, folks.
Hughes keeping hope alive.
Nice velo from Hughesie, he is sitting at 95.
hughes sittin 95 that AB
pyoooooooooooooom
Nice, Nick…at least it’s never too long in one place
Yeah, we really should have traded Phil Hughes… he so doesn’t have ML stuff…
That was great. Best pitch in baseball. A well-located fastball.
Okay, that Taco Bell commercial may just be my new favorite commercial
BTW Cena wins and the WWE SUCKS again. Just continues to squash young talent, over and over.
The death of that industry is imminent.
“Hughes hitting 96. Velocity is VERY good.”
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that’s not possible.
a physical impossibility.
well, that is, if you listened to Steve Phillips (or a handful of other “experts”) last year.
“Where is Randy, The ghost of Livan is making the Yankees look stupid”
i’m right here defending two fronts- wang and livan.
let’s not forget wang has now had just 5 starts. he gave up two runs tonight with a so so sinker but good velocity. cashman made this choice for him, so instead of blaming wang for doing spring training in season, put it where it belongs and that is on cashman for bringing wang up prematurely when joba got hit by the line drive.
as far as livan, he does this all the time. just ask nick in sf as he travels all over the continental united states on his winnings from betting on livan
Hughes is a Monster attacking that strike zone. I’m so impressed when he comes out from the bullpen. Way to go!!
Let’s go HUUUUGHES, Stretch that Man out!!!
Phil Hughes can dominate major league hitters right now and he knows it.
Earlier this year people were saying his problem was that he was “scared” to be out on the mound and wasn’t “mentally strong enough” to make it in NY.
Wow, Phil!
He was wild with Castillo (hadn’t pitched in awhile, so maybe that was it), but boy he pumped those FB and dropped in those curves afterwards……….Great job.
And FANTASTIC play by Alex and Jeter……..
DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood)
June 28th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
“Bofy will he be surprised
Not only bofy, but, boy.”
GB – I thought you were going to work Mr. French into that one too.
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You’re probably right. It would make it easier getting a date with Sissy.
The reason people bash Cano is not that he’s lazy, but that he has a terrible approach. He helps the pitchers out in spots where the pitcher is in trouble, and not him.
But how can you entirely fault him? He is what he is, and clueless Joe Girardi continues to put him in a spot where it is hard for him to succeed. Cano should be batting 7th in this lineup behind Posada and Swisher, but Girardi’s extreme “over-faith” in him has him in a spot where there is additional pressure, which he clearly is having trouble with.
How many times his Cano hit into DP’s at key moments in the game? The game against Washington, top of the 9th in Boston with bases loaded, no outs right in front of Mo giving up the 2-R HR, and hopefully not tonight’s DP where they should have blown the game open against a mediocre Livan Hernandez.
It’s not the result as much as the approach though. Even if he hits the ball hard, if he took a bad approach he didn’t really give himself much of a chance to get it done, and that’s his problem. He expands the zone or doesn’t give the pitcher a chance to get himself in trouble in spots like that.
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”
June 28th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
BTW Cena wins and the WWE SUCKS again. Just continues to squash young talent, over and over.
The death of that industry is imminent.
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Not as long as folks like you and my dad keep ordering these PPV’s dude
The only thing Hernandez was better at was snorting coke…
Does anyone think that Alex would have got the runner at first? I think his only play was to second and he made it.
Youuuuuuuuuse =
Hughes will not hit once again as Bruney gets the 8th.
Hughes will not hit once again as Bruney gets the 8th.
Damn I want to see Phil hit.
no ordering of ppv’s Erica…they stream free…if you google
“Wang is “scared”
Hughes is “mentally weak”
Jorge is “selfish”
Cano/Melky are “stupid/lazy.”
You forgot Posada is ’senile’, because he has apparently lost his mind and forgotten how to call a ballgame.
LOL @ Pokey!!! I’m cracking up!
I love the way the Yankees are playing right now.
Also, I like how their previous weaknesses (bullpen and bench) are now very respectable.
The pen is very good with the likes of Coke, Robertson, Aceves, Bruney, Hughes and Mo. The cutting ties with Veras and Ramirez also has helped tremendously.
The bench is more dynamic than in the past, with Pena, Ransom, Cervelli, and the combo of Caberera and Gardner.
Things are definitely looking up right now.
hughes has been a monster lately. 1 thing ro be aware of dominating for 5 outs is much easier then being a starter
hughes threw only 2 pitches fastballs and curves that is it….
Do you stay with Hughes or go to Bruney?
a little nerve racking seeing bruney out there warming up
I think they should flip hughes and bruney but thats just me. Tonight might be a Mo 4 out save? no?
Oh this is setting up nice for Mo’s 500th.
And it’s good to know that Nick was not Billy Mays posting incognito.
Let the Hughes controversy begin!
Jeter will definitely welcome the day off tomorrow. Get some sleep.
don’t forget Cervelli is ’second coming of Yogi Berra’
The reason people bash Cano is not that he’s lazy, but that he has a terrible approach. He helps the pitchers out in spots where the pitcher is in trouble, and not him.
But how can you entirely fault him? He is what he is, and clueless Joe Girardi continues to put him in a spot where it is hard for him to succeed. Cano should be batting 7th in this lineup behind Posada and Swisher, but Girardi’s extreme “over-faith” in him has him in a spot where there is additional pressure, which he clearly is having trouble with.
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I have no problem with Girardi wanting Cano to bat 5th generally. I do question batting him there as he struggles through an injury that is making him extremely prone to pounding the ball into the infield.
That makes no sense.
grafxkid
June 28th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
no ordering of ppv’s Erica…they stream free…if you google
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I am not telling my dad. I will let him keep paying. I will not feed into this habit of his.
He insisted on starting the BBQ tonight at the beach at 5 so he could be home in plenty of time for the PPV. It was very early bird special
“Not as long as folks like you and my dad keep ordering these PPV’s dude”
Erica, I didn’t even watch it, they text messaged me the outcome. Pretty soon that industry is just going to become predictably boring. Lets guess Super Cena wins again, we set up Show vs him or HHH and Randy Orton for 9th millionth time.
I cant believe people freely admit to watching wrestling. I would seriously consider keeping that to yourself in the futre. Makes Nascar look classy by comparison
please, insurance run[s]
Well Hughes is done for the night. Great job. I guess they are ready to see Brian back to back.
“A stupid Mets fan at my beach club today tried to convince me that 1986 Keith Hernandez was better than 1998 Tino.”
It’s a closer call than you might think. Certainly KH had a better career. One of the all time great 1st basemen. I don’t recall the specifics of those years, but in general, I’d take Hernandez.
“You’re probably right. It would make it easier getting a date with Sissy.”
GB – if word gets out you had the hots for a Sissy, the officer’s club will suddenly be off limits.
the yare going to bruney.. that is his job.
if he fails then you talk hughes or someone else…
Nick on I-80 East
Keeping driving straight and you’ll see Yankee Stadium on your right in about 4-5 days. Just in time for the Jays series.
Randy
I swear Livan carries Sleepy Bye powder and dusts baseballs. Never saw so much effort swinging for so little results.
CB, very good points on AJ. I don’t want to be a hypocrite – I did say there is no way you remove AJ from the rotation. I hope it’s just mechanics with Wang because those can be fixed….
Randy, I don’t disagree, but I don’t honestly think Wang was pitching well enough to stay in and the game needs to be won. I think Wang is huge for the Yankees chances, so I want him to come back and resemble the pitcher who’s won 19 games twice………..
i got a bad vibe bout the bottom of the 8th
lets get a cushion boys
put Matsui on a boat back to Laos
Let’s get some Geico here Mark.
“BTW Cena wins and the WWE SUCKS again. Just continues to squash young talent, over and over.
The death of that industry is imminent.”
I’m not a huge Cena fan or anything, but dude, come on. The Miz is freaking awful. His promos are obnoxious, and (at least from the people I knows) draw “X-Pac heat”. When I see him on TV, I want him OFF of my TV, not because I want to see him get his comeuppance as a villain, but because he’s so friggin’ obnoxious. Can’t stand the dude. Morrison, thank God, is off doing something productive as a singles wrestler over on Smackdown.
please bring jetes home!!
So Pete is a Mets fan? Revealing evening.
“put Matsui on a boat back to Laos”
So…is he Chinese or Japanese?
we could use an insurance run
They need to send matsui on the next steamer back to Myanmar
Young Master Hughes throws so effortlessly…Fastball just explodes when it nears the plate…..
DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood)
June 28th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
“You’re probably right. It would make it easier getting a date with Sissy.”
GB – if word gets out you had the hots for a Sissy, the officer’s club will suddenly be off limits.
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Officer’s Club? I had trouble getting into the snack bars.
I don’t have a problem at all going to Bruney – that’s his job. If he blows it, he blows it – but it’s still not a bad move.
“more wang possible trade talk”
All of these ridiculous wang trade rumors have the same source – that reporter from the Philadelphia inquirer.
That’s not more. That’s regurgitation.
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”
June 28th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
“Not as long as folks like you and my dad keep ordering these PPV’s dude”
Erica, I didn’t even watch it, they text messaged me the outcome. Pretty soon that industry is just going to become predictably boring. Lets guess Super Cena wins again, we set up Show vs him or HHH and Randy Orton for 9th millionth time.
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Thank you Brandon. You are helping confirm my suspicion that my dad is in fact, pathetic and wasting his money
Walking intentionally to get to Arod.
big AB here for arod. we could use an insurance run…or two or three
ok, SOMEONE make the pitchers pay for all these walks.
AROD!
Alex end this one with a bomb. You got enough power to send it out of here anywhere.
It really is possible to criticize the result without trashing a player, you know? Without throwing out all sorts of epithets. Heck you can even be angry about results without insulting the mental capacity of players. In a sense, isn’t it awfully lazy to fall back on nastiness?
Boy, thanks to the Mets for that sloppy first, because this game has been a nailbiter since. it would sure be nice to get a run (or two?, please?) here.
oh and i hope arod doesnt walk lol
I don’t trust Bruney with a 10 foot poll.
Make ‘em pay for the disrespect, A-Rod.
who would win if chris benoit wrastled eddie guerrero tomorrow?
If I am the mets I walk Arod to go at mr clutch cano!!!!!
he would hit into a DP but there are 2 outs so he can’t!!!!!!!!!!
I am of course kidding, but Cano needs to be moved down in the lineup so he can get hits with no one on base on 1 or 2 pitches..cano is the anti youkilis or pedroia.. he has bad AB’s and is very unclutch……….
Pat M, that last FB to Cora was just tremendous – a perfectly placed pitch at 95, are you kidding me? This kid acts like it’s no big deal -I love it.
“it’s harder to charge full speed in one direction and then spin around and make a throw.
as long as it’s straight, an infielder should be able to scoop it.”
Oh, I’m not saying Alex COULD have done it better. It was an incredibly hard play to make, and the speed with which he got the ball to second, throwing from that angle, was impressive. And really, it COULD have been worse, because another inch or so back, and it would have skipped over Jeter’s glove and in to center. That said, it was still a dangerous play, and Jeter digging it (which, you are correct IS his job) saved us further damage.
make em pay alex!
Come on Arod make them pay.
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Come on A-Rod….
The Yanks have scored since Pete put on that ugly Mets trucker cap.
Someone get him on the CB and ask him to remove it. Breaker breaker 1-9.
With two out, they aren’t giving Alex anything meaty to tee off on. Cano is on deck, and sort of struggling.
you really think they are going to pitch to Arod with Cano on deck?
Yikes. Give the devil his due, that was a SICK off-speed pitch.
“I swear Livan carries Sleepy Bye powder and dusts baseballs. Never saw so much effort swinging for so little results.”
Bo Knows-
i love it how he puts the ball on a tee inside and the only place to hit it is foul, but so many hitters just have to wail on it. they can’t resist and it ends up being a long strike.
then after feeling like they just missed a home run, he throws them a little outside the zone and they hit a lazy flyball or turn it over trying to pull it and it’s an easy grounder to an infielder.
livan is maybe the best pitcher in baseball. with his stuff to do what he does is really amazing.
Does anyone else appreciate the YES broadcasters as much as I do,after having to listen to Joe Morgan, Steve Philips, and Jon Miller? But anything is better than the National’s and White Sox announcers, talk about biased.
Let mo get 500 Alex!
cano is due for a big hit, right…right?!?!
1986 Hernandez: 13 HR, 83 RBI, .310/.413/.446
1998 Tino: 28/123/281/355/505
Tell the Mets fan to put down the crack pipe.
3-1 and 3-2 slider with men on first and second in the 8th.
Not a lot of respect for the next guy up at bat.
Cano will hit a grand slam or something…he doesn’t do anything right
Cano needs to get his groove with this AB.
At least Cano can’t hit into a DP
Arod has looked so much better these last few games. When was the last time he had one of those AB’s that made you shake your head? It’s been a while (thank god).
think positive! No DP for Cano this time.
(sure it helps there are 2 outs)
Another big spot for Cano. Please don’t swing down and away.
Alex has gotten his batter’s eye back. Two weeks ago, and he’d have swung over that pitch, or tried to dig it out and drive it, only to pop it up.
“Does anyone else appreciate the YES broadcasters as much as I do,after having to listen to Joe Morgan, Steve Philips, and Jon Miller? But anything is better than the National’s and White Sox announcers, talk about biased.”
I happen to really like the YES guys. My only complain is when Michael Kay jinxes good pitching performances
Robbie looked very determined in the ondeck. Let’s see if he can deliver.
if cano drives in a run here im gone forever. you have my word on that
oh my lol
Here is a HUGE spot for Cano. A hit here could break this open.
Cano needs to not help the pitcher out by swinging out of the zone, he can still walk in a run!
Cano, lets try to redeem yourself here
Cano with the bases loaded
What are the odds that Cano gets a big hit here?
Take more pitches, do anything but end the inning (please?)!
f my life
Ok I was wrong
womp womp womp womp
down and away again
now he’ll probably hit a deep fly out lol
robbie cano…blew it again dontcha know?
Wow…nice play by Castillo
After ripping the ball again Robbie comes up empty. Cue the dozens of insults… now.
If we lose it’s Cano’s fault.
I’m sorry, but oh brother……Cano ……….and he came through again, NOT.
Sorry, Joe – inexcusable to still hit this guy 5th.
Cano’s been snakebit tonight. Two of the balls he’s hit tonight have been hit really hard, and good defense on the Met’s side have saved them runs.
“That said, it was still a dangerous play, and Jeter digging it (which, you are correct IS his job) saved us further damage.”
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Donnie, I agree. I wasn’t sure if you were saying Alex should have made a better throw (which I’m sure he could have).
Risky play for sure.
and *another* hard hit ball….hes not getting much luck
Deja-freaking-vu, lol.
ouch
Robbie can’t buy a hit tonight….On the screws but another atom ball….
Pokey
June 28th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
1986 Hernandez: 13 HR, 83 RBI, .310/.413/.446
1998 Tino: 28/123/281/355/505
Tell the Mets fan to put down the crack pipe.
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Thanks Pokey. I wrote this down. I will tell the dumb Mets fan he is higher than 1986 Keith
Cano has hit the ball hard tonight… just in the wrong spot.
Cano just isn’t a RISP hitter thus far.
Cano now has 9 runners left on base today, and if there wasn’t always 2 outs with him up, he would’ve gotten 8 out of 27 outs today with all that double play stuff.
the village left on base today is disheartening
Cano trying to pull everything ala Matsui. Results in ground ball to second base.
man he sucks… cano and lazy, stupid butt have had 3 chances to blow this open. Mets are gonna put up a 3 spot here. Im so confident that they will tie or take the lead that I will leave forever if they dont. you have my word.
The bullpen may well get it done and hold it to a 3-2 win, but they just CANNOT keep throwing away opportunities. They are facing the Mets, but they have to get in these runs against the better teams. They have gotten 3 walks in 2/3 innings just now and been hacking away aggressively even though the pitcher is having trouble throwing strikes. They have to be more disciplined with runners on base.
Again, why is Cano, the least patient hitter on the team, batting in the 5 hole, a spot where you need to be patient and drive in runners? Amazing how Girardi doesn’t notice the guy hitting .215 with RISP
this is shaping up to be the worst loss of the season if bruney doesn’t throw well
Geography isn’t a strong suit on this site, is it?
ok this inning scares me…BB needs to go bang bang here
quick and painless
Erica, I’m with you, but it is a lot better than hearing “Cano has hit a double play ball in each at bat, but not all of them were turned” than how is it a dp ball Jon Miller??
Cano is having a tough night, hit the ball hard too, but nothing to show for.
cano has left 9 men on base this game. 9!
that was a hard hit groundball, cano apologist. 235 with the bases loaded.
give me some sabermetric BS why that does not matter.
He is a joke, unproffessional hitter and is a stat guy.
hits when it does not matter, cano is a joke..be real.. he makes arod seem like the clutchest guy ever…..
NYY626-
Did you have a happy birthday?
Gotta hope Bruney and Mo can hold this lead. Another bad performance from this offense.
Way too inconsistent. It’s either feast or famine. That’s why the pitching has to be really good the rest of the way.
Darn
ok Bruney – easy 1-2-3, let’s go
Cam
June 28th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I don’t trust Bruney with a 10 foot poll.
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Don’t know why, but this made me laugh more than the Wang is Korean post.
Cam
June 28th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I don’t trust Bruney with a 10 foot poll.
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Don’t know why, but this made me laugh more than the Wang is Korean post.
I think all the runners should pretend to hide when they are on base and Cano is up.
The village of people Cano left on base today is bigger than his village in Barbados.
BloggingBombers: I bet Matsui can’t wait to do that four times a game instead of one. A Japanese reporters said Matsui was “getting out of jail” on Tuesday.
Cano was lucky there were 2 outs he would have another DP
Cano is doing everything he is supposed to except get lucky. There is variance in baseball and sometimes you just hit it right at people. Cano is anything but a joke, just unlucky tonight.
bruney is going to be wild. I’m glad we were waiting so long for this
biggest AB of hte game right here
oh look, it is wild bruney
wow
June 28th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
if cano drives in a run here im gone forever. you have my word on that
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I believe we’d never see this name again.
What name would you come back as?
“I’m not a huge Cena fan or anything, but dude, come on. The Miz is freaking awful. His promos are obnoxious, and (at least from the people I knows) draw “X-Pac heat”. When I see him on TV, I want him OFF of my TV, not because I want to see him get his comeuppance as a villain, but because he’s so friggin’ obnoxious. Can’t stand the dude. Morrison, thank God, is off doing something productive as a singles wrestler over on Smackdown.”
Donnie I guess your the small variety, because reading what fans think, they want The Miz to get the push, no offense but John Morrison hasn’t even been important to WWE, w/o the Miz his personality is bland, ppl say he carried that tagteam when it’s actually the other way around, WWE even knows that hence why he is on SmackDown and not Raw. IT doesn’t matter aslong as Cena and HHH are there it’s never going to change.
James-
These guys are hard to listen to, but I still think the FOX guys are worse
Come on Bruney.
Bruney overthrowing again like he was his last appearance.
pretty sure nothing is worse than the 20-run loss
Bruney, seriously. This is silly. I mean…really? Really? In the dirt like that? Come on.
Not liking this. Not one bit.
Curious about Cano’s Situational Stats?
Bases Empty .333
Runners On .263
RISP .222
RISP w/2 Outs .193
Bases Loaded .200
Wonderful, next, I post Bruney’s strike to ball ratio.
Curious about Cano’s Situational Stats?
Bases Empty .333
Runners On .263
RISP .222
RISP w/2 Outs .193
Bases Loaded .200
Wonderful, next, I post Bruney’s strike to ball ratio.
How I wish we didn’t pull Yuuuuuse
This isn’t going to end well. Bruney trying to throw it through a wall.
4 pitch walk bruney… now the gohead run is at the plate with sheffield!
God Bruney, you have good stuff. DON’T WALK PEOPLE.
Why didn’t they leave Phil in? Come on Bruney get it together.
“cano has left 9 men on base this game.”
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ouch.
What a joke.
The Yankees continue to beat themselves tonight. Cano has single handedly killed every put away rally tonight, and the Yankees pitchers refuse to throw strikes to the weak Mets lineup.
How could you walk Cora twice, or Wright on 4 pitches leading off the 8th inning of a 1 run game? You don’t want to give a bad team hope.
Bruney once again showing why he’s not the 8th inning solution.
Get him out and go to Mo.
Bruney in the 7th, solid. The 8th? Not good.
put the cisco kid in for defense here
dont let Wright get a big lead
im tellin you i have a BAD vibe bout this inning
Whew. Big out.
Double play, please.
like i said- if mets dont score im out forever. you have my word on that
I get the feeling the Mets are going to make the Yanks pay for leaving so many LOB.
please get wang a win and rivera save 500 so we can move on.
chill out. take a tablet.
Bruney will be ok.
m
June 28th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Cam
June 28th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I don’t trust Bruney with a 10 foot poll.
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Don’t know why, but this made me laugh more than the Wang is Korean post.
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Probably because he didn’t specify exactly what he didn’t trust Bruney to do with the 10 foot pole
If only Bruney really did throw that high fastball to Sheffield to change his eye level.
He just over threw his fastball yet again and Sheffield bailed him out.
Warm up Mo now.
ugh..Who is Brian Bruney ?
SJ44, not sure if that is the real you or the fake you. Either way, you aren’t making much sense right now. Relievers can’t be perfect every time out. He gave up a walk, ok that sucks. Lets see how the rest of the inning goes before we condemn him.
“Donnie I guess your the small variety, because reading what fans think, they want The Miz to get the push, no offense but John Morrison hasn’t even been important to WWE, w/o the Miz his personality is bland, ppl say he carried that tagteam when it’s actually the other way around, WWE even knows that hence why he is on SmackDown and not Raw. IT doesn’t matter aslong as Cena and HHH are there it’s never going to change.”
Actually, Smackdown, in my opinion, is the better show (and I say that from a talent aspect, because I don’t have the time for it on Friday nights, and only watch the last hour or so of Raw these days). I don’t think this is like the old WCW days, where Thunder was the show where you sent guys that you had under contract, but didn’t really have anything to do with. Jericho, Hardy, Mysterio, and Punk are all big money names for WWE. I don’t think Morrison being on Smackdown means he’s less important, just that his particular style is more suited to the fast-paced stuff they do on SD!, and less suited for the power offense they have on Raw.
This is why the closer role is overrated. Bruney can get through this inning, but why shouldn’t the best reliever have to face Wright and Sheffield with a 1-run lead, rather than the bottom of the order?
It’s funny, because this is NOT putting your team in the best position to win but EVERY manager does this.
SJ, this is why I find it hard to believe the Yankees can win the division and why it’s not going to be easy to win the wildcard. The offense at times is just brutal – it’s often mediocre and it’s sometimes terrific (mostly against bad pitchers). They put way too much pressure on the SP and the pen to be perfect.
Randy I
Yes Livan is good. He is working with the percentages of Dom baseball players. But this is a veteran club. And they insist on overswinging, again and again.
NYY626-
Did you have a happy birthday?
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Yes I did Erica, Thanks! There was a bit of a freaky lightning display going on during the aerosmith concert, but Steven Tyler rocked nonetheless
we dont deserve this game at all.
F-Mart will either win it or tie it here.
bruney lookin like crap
get aceves in
bring in Mo!!
Steve Phillips is HORID. As if Morgan and Miller wasn’t bad enough!!
This is Bruney…his control is hit or miss.
UNBELIEVABLE.
This is the freaking Mets lineup. Throw a strike to a guy who hits into a DP 60% of the time.
Bruney needs to stop being stubborn and throw strikes. He has power stuff, stop nibbling.
This is dumb. Bruney can’t be the 8th inning guy if he’s just going to walk people. Let Hughes or Ace have that role.
Mo, now. Please.
K-Rod is laughing his ass off… Bruney- nice tatoos, btw. Are those supposed to be intimidating?
9 balls
3 strikes
Can’t even bring Mo in with 100% confidence, because with inherited runners, he’s not particularly effective.
5-out save for mo!
I think Bruney is fine in any inning but the 8th.
He just doesn’t throw enough strikes to trust in these situations.
A horrific outing and they are staying too long with him. This could cost them the game.
I wonder how those scouting reports on Street look right about now ????
“Relievers can’t be perfect every time out. He gave up a walk, ok that sucks.”
Not simply that he walked him. It was why and how he walked him that’s the big concern.
Mo for 5…do it if you have to
The bad offense tonight is mostly about Cano sucking with RISP.
NYY626-
I am surprised they didn’t make you sit in your car when it was lighting at Jones Beach. But I am glad you had a great time!
I should have told you to say hello to Joe Perry for me
Bruney has the stuff to just overpower Martinez. No excuses, get this guy out.
put this kid away
0-2
I can’t take it anymore, half of you are acting like whiny babies. Watch the game and enjoy it, stop crying. At least that’s what I’m going to do, see ya
i’m not feeling good bout thiiiiiis
98 MPH heater up around the eyes, Brian. Blow him away.
good job
Called it. HUGE out.
I fully blame Bruney’s mustache for all wildness
“I don’t think Morrison being on Smackdown means he’s less important, just that his particular style is more suited to the fast-paced stuff they do on SD!, and less suited for the power offense they have on Raw.”
They put him on the B show, even w/ his talent he’s not driving that show, you listen to people talk about Raw they say 3 things drive that show Orton, The Miz and MVP. That’s all.
One more out Bruney
hey fake SJ44 – how did your nephew do today?
Enter Sandman!
Mo in.
What’s up with the facial hair rule? Bruney seems s to have a bit of a beard…..same with Swisher.
idiotic move here…let bruney finish him off. this loss is on girardi
“F-Mart will either win it or tie it here.”
sorry brandon…you fail
Mariano!!!
Mo looks like he’s leaving prison. What’s with the bullpen?
Mo for 4 outs? Is this the right move? If Mo has to throw a lot of pitches here, it could hurt him in the 9th…..
Huge out for Bruney. Come on Mo. End this inning.
They need to move the outfield in a bit.
Let’s go, Mo! Let’s go, Mo!
Mo with inherited runners? This…I…uh…man. I love Mo, but he has NOT been great when coming in to situations like this. Hope to God he proves me wrong, but I will honestly admit to being nervous right now. Do NOT want to lose this game.
i am scared here lol
OK, managers. How do you set the outfield? Protect against the double or the usual bloop to the outfield?
So Mo’s going to have to work for # 500.
I am going to play Enter Sandman cause CitiField won’t and I feel its needed at this moment
Let’s go Mo! Save #500 certainly won’t come easy.
“He should be illegal”
2 walks in the 8th Patrick. Can’t do that and pitch 8th innings.
Just another bad job by Bruney.
I bet we see Hughes as the 8th inning guy sooner than later. Much more consistent strike thrower.
“sorry brandon…you fail”
Ralphie be honest you were surprised he got him.
tommyfusco
June 28th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
i am scared here lol
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You are kind of scaring me buddy. Calm down
Phil walked the first guy he face in the 7th, too…….so if you kill Bruney, you have to kill Phil.
if they get an out before they score im gonzo for good
Why was Bruney wearing a hat with no logo nor the inaugural season patch? Looked odd…
day off tomorrow. he can get the 4 outs.
mo coming in with ties vs/ the lead?
which was the bad one?
i want this win for chien ming wang as much as rivera.
NYY626-
I am surprised they didn’t make you sit in your car when it was lighting at Jones Beach. But I am glad you had a great time!
I should have told you to say hello to Joe Perry for me
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Joe Perry looked great rocking a silver streak in his hair
LETS GO MO!!!
Girardi motions…
Mariano Rivera…
Four to Five Hundered…
“This is Bruney…his control is hit or miss.”
Sounds like Veras!
“I think Bruney is fine in any inning but the 8th.”
Well, he is the 8th inning guy.
“They put him on the B show, even w/ his talent he’s not driving that show, you listen to people talk about Raw they say 3 things drive that show Orton, The Miz and MVP. That’s all.”
And see, I disagree with Smackdown being the “B show”. I don’t think there IS an “A show” or “B show”. Sure, RAW is what’s most associated with the company brand. But Smackdown isn’t getting any less attention, or being shafted in any way, shape, or form. I’ll agree with you on MVP, though. Dude is a MAJOR talent.
anyone?
tommyfusco June 28th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
mo coming in with ties vs/ the lead?
which was the bad one?
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don’t watch much baseball huh?
I don’t have a good feeling about this…
Giardi’s notebook (let’s hope):
Note to self:
- Move Cano back to the 7 spot
- Hughes as the 8th inning guy, Bruney to 7th innning guy
Correction:
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Girardi motions…
Mariano Rivera…
Four to Five Hundred…
thanks jen, nice answer.
informative and helpful post
You can rip on Cano all you want, but I give you one stat, three hits, with El Sloppo pitching. Did they learn anything playing Washington? Girardi is working overtime to save this game.
come on mo , save one for the korean!
This does make me nervous. Santos is NOT patient, and Bruney probably could have blown him away like he did with Martinez.
The real problem here is how many times we’ve had to go to Mo in the 8th inning. Did you know that since ‘07, Rivera has ONLY blown saves in games which he came in in the 8th inning?
Mo has been automatic with 9th inning leads, but there’s only so many bullets left in his arm.
phewwww
tommyfusco June 28th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
thanks jen, nice answer.
informative and helpful post
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If you watched a little, you would know the answer.
“Phil walked the first guy he face in the 7th, too…….so if you kill Bruney, you have to kill Phil.”
Phil’s walk was bad but it’s not the same. Lead off walks are terrible but what made Bruney’s really bad was how he walked him.
Bruney simply isn’t a good pitcher when he’s overthrowing. It seemed like he learned that last year and in the beginning of this year.
His last two outings he’s gone back to overthrowing. No idea why.
But it’s obvious when you see it. And after that first walk you could tell that there was a very high probability of him walking another guy because there was a systematic problem with his approach on the mound.
Come on Posada. He’s hitting it hard on the pitches away, go inside.
The look on Mo’s face was basically, “Yikes”. He knows he got away with one there.
According to Suzyn, Bruney wasn’t even close.
If only Robbie could have hit a sac fly. ARGGHH.
Omir got Papelbon remember.
liek i said jen, nice helpful post.
peace santos
Moooooooooooooooo
Cutter on the inside corner!
Mr. 500.
“This does make me nervous. Santos is NOT patient, and Bruney probably could have blown him away like he did with Martinez.”
You mean like Paplbon?
Absolutely beautiful. Thanks Mo.
BEAUTIFUL. Like I said.
Sandman baby!
the greatest ever
>Omir got Papelbon remember.
so?
whew, Mo had to work there……hope he didn’t expend too much energy there.
Erica, you are so right. Joe Buck is the worst when it comes to Yankee games, he obviously doesn’t like them but if your a broadcaster for a national tv station you shouldn’t be biased. and McCarver knows NOTHING.
Mo does it again. now we need him to be great for the 9th.
Whew. GREAT pitching by Mo. Glad my nerves were unwarranted.
We win and he’s got 500. Let’s go score 3 or 4 more, shall we?
Umm Tommy-
If you knew anything about baseball- you would know that a closer comes in to protect the lead. Since Rivera is considered the greatest closer of all time, he is very good at that.
Sometimes however, he does falter when he comes in during tied games
“And see, I disagree with Smackdown being the “B show”. I don’t think there IS an “A show” or “B show”. Sure, RAW is what’s most associated with the company brand. But Smackdown isn’t getting any less attention, or being shafted in any way, shape, or form. I’ll agree with you on MVP, though. Dude is a MAJOR talent.”
Problem w/ MVP he’s 36. Nearly done.
The game shouldn’t even be this close.
I wouldn’t mind if the Yankees put this one out of reach now.
YESSS!!!! Oh my god, my heart was beating so fast!
That pitch is as almost impossible to hit as it gets…
Tommyfusco…
Man up!
Have faith in our guys!
Well, I am a woman of my word. Bye all
Mo!
“UPDATE, 10:59 p.m.: Another bad job by Cano.” umm..what game are watching? he hit that ball on the nose. you can’t place the ball.
so long wow. adios. tata. cya. watch out for GB’s big foot.
Brian Bruney has 4 walks in his last 12 1/3 IP
that includes the 2 tonight
I realize he walked 2 tonight in a bad spot but I think suggesting that he can’t throw strikes and walks too many guys is a little premature.
p.s. his ERA is 2.84
not bad
Thank goodness he came inside with a strike, as this hitter was ready to poke at the outside cutter and dump it into right field.
That’s a great job by Posada. Mo wanted to keep throwing cutters away to Santos and he forced Mo to change his pattern.
That’s experience and trust by Mo in his veteran catcher.
Matt
June 28th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Come on Posada. He’s hitting it hard on the pitches away, go inside.
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What did he hit hard? Every swing was not much more than check swings?
I’d love nothing more than to get an insurance run off Krod and then have Mo lock down save #500.
erica, act more respectful, please.
thank you.
if i knew anything bout baseball?
wow, the people in here are soo kind.
lol
Just like game 7 of the alcs back in 2003 baby.
Did that really just happen? LOL
Cora pulling a Castillo on Castillo
runs runs runs
we could use a couple
I still can’t figure out how Krod has managed to pitch so long with that horrible motion.
ah, that jorge bloop remind anyone of a special bloop back in 2003?
Now please take advantage of this.
James-
A few weeks ago, I randomly put on my TV on a Sunday afternoon and caught the Tim McCarver show (which I didn’t know existed). They were interviewing Johnny Damon, so I watched because he is my pretend boyfriend.
Anyway, the entire half hour was dedictated to his time with Boston. Seriously. Thats how bad the McCarver Yankee hate is. You would never have never known that Damon was a Yankee for the last 4 years watching that show.
At like 12:28 Damon was still wearing the Boston uniform. At 12:29, they mentioned after Boston he went to play for the Yankees. And then the show ended.
LOL…. blame it on Murphy, yeah he called for it.
WTH is w/ the pop ups and these Mets.
sar! i know! but its scary against the mets! lol
Good points, CB. I didn’t even want to kill Phil because his control has been outstanding and he hasn’t pitched in a few days……Also, his approach was fine – he was just a bit wild. Maybe Bruney is way too hyped up because he’s missed such a good chunk of the year and he’s trying to make up for it.
The Mets are funny.
I might have to watch more of their games.
come on melky…pop it up to 2nd base!
On the cusp of woe…
Cutter carves inside corner…
Three to Five Hundred…
Kris is gonna kill his middle infielders!
only the mets
deja vu
tommyfusco
June 28th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
erica, act more respectful, please.
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I am sorry Tommy, I was not trying to be disrespectful. But I was pointing out why you were having a hard time getting a good answer.
there’s a drill in spring training where they take a hitting machine and shoot balls about a half mile high straight up and have catchers try to catch the balls.
what you see are a lot of guys looking like the mets shortstop just did.
too funny.
by the way if anyone is ever interested in buying a slingbox. don’t do it, it sucks! I’m watching right now on a good internet connection and it is all choppy i can barely make out any of the picture
beat me to the punch Carl!
So popups are the new way to beat Krod
Could Mo get an AB in this inning? Would love to see that because it probably means we scored.
BloggingBombers: As @YankeesWFAN pointed out, the last time Posada hit a ball like that, Grady Little got fired.
Well we know Gardenhoser will pop it up
Tampa plays Toronto 6 times over the next 10 days.
The battle to see who can hang in the Yankees rear view mirror begins….
Do they run Cabrera?
Mo has 533 career saves; he has 34 in the postseason…
GreenBeret7
June 28th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Do they run Cabrera?
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Why yes, yes they do
“The Mets are funny.
I might have to watch more of their games.”
I do watch a lot of Mets game, and trust me, they’re like this always!
“Do they run Cabrera?”
I would.
“by the way if anyone is ever interested in buying a slingbox. don’t do it, it sucks! ”
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I use it all the time. It’s awesome when you don’t have anything else (a TV or mlb.tv).
I’ve used it and sometimes the quality is great and sometimes it’s not. It’s not always the internet connection where you happen to be at the time.
having melky vs. gardner seems to be working. they are trying to one up each other, which is good for the yankees.
Dave,
His ERA gets saved when the GOAT can back you up. Mo can save anybody’s ERA.
Can’t pitch like that and keep an 8th role. Not with Phil Hughes breathing down your neck.
Hughes for set-up man
Posada for 5th spot in the order
everything else is all good in the hood, G
Randy: Tony Pena has a drill where he shoots one ball up with a machine, counts to three then fires up another. The catcher needs to catch the first, toss it then catch the second. Sometimes he has three catchers try to catch three balls, the idea that you need to keep a sharp focus on “your” ball.
If Tony was in charge of interrogating terrorists, he’d find out everything in 10 minutes. He’s a sadistic genius.
Erica, well that’s a show I’m never gonna watch. And if he can get his own sports show, why don’t I have my own sports shows? or any of these other commenters. oh and Damon is my pretend boyfriend too, hahah sike I’m in love with Mila Kunis.
“Well we know Gardenhoser will pop it up”
once again brandon…you fail
Erica – newly OPPC
June 28th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
GreenBeret7
June 28th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Do they run Cabrera?
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Why yes, yes they do
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You have now been promoted to the Yankee manager, Erica “Jo Girardi”.
“Dave,
His ERA gets saved when the GOAT can back you up. Mo can save anybody’s ERA.
Can’t pitch like that and keep an 8th role. Not with Phil Hughes breathing down your neck.”
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SJ44,
I agree. But in his last 14 appearances, he has walked someone in just 2 of those games.
Is that really enough to say he doesn’t have the control to be the 8th inning guy?
Double steal? I don’t know if I want to risk Melky swiping third. I mean, sure, he CAN do it, but he could also get busted. If the roles are reversed, I DEFINITELY do it, but in this case? Maybe, maybe not.
“Tampa plays Toronto 6 times over the next 10 days.”
I’m one of those people who likes interleague play, but it will definitely feel good to get back to a schedule where not EVERY AL East team can be on a hot streak.
Can John stop talking about the play Murphy made in the first inning. You are an announcer for the Yankees. WHY DO YOU CARE?
What’s that about walks leading to runs? Hasn’t helped us tonight.
James
June 28th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Erica, well that’s a show I’m never gonna watch. And if he can get his own sports show, why don’t I have my own sports shows? or any of these other commenters. oh and Damon is my pretend boyfriend too, hahah sike I’m in love with Mila Kunis.
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Hahaha. I only watched that one time. Because when I turned on my TV I saw Johnny’s smiling face.
But the point is- massive anti-Yankee bias. It was so embarrassingly obvious
lol Jon Miller just said “Teams can only be leading the game(winning the game) one at a time, that is why you dont see both of the premier closers in”
This guy is a friggin genius
“Can John stop talking about the play Murphy made in the first inning. You are an announcer for the Yankees. WHY DO YOU CARE?”
Because without that play, we would most likely be losing 2-1 right now. It was a HUGE play in this game.
i count only 1 red sox reference from john miller and joe morgan. it is sooooo refreshing. usually they find a way to make it all about them, all game even if they arent playing
Erica, i would’ve done the same thing too. Maybe your pretend boyfriend gets a baseknock here.
“You have now been promoted to the Yankee manager, Erica “Jo Girardi”.”
GB7-
This is awesome. Even better than when I inserted myself into the lineup in the #8 spot to play 3rd base. I will be an awesome Yankee manager
Livan Hernandez does exactly what Orlando Hernamdez used to do. He’d walk one or two straight batters to get to a hitter that he had success with.
And Steve Phillips just said “against the ORLANDO Braves” lol
where do they get these guys?
jon miller = genius, like his plan for jeter to move positions. what was it? jeter to third and a-rod to the outfield? how is this man not a GM somewhere?
Manuel musing…
K-Rod dealing to Damon…
The Citi at night…
GRAH. That would have been 2 runs, Damon on second. Great catch by Reed.
Could Jeter ACTUALLY get a hit here? Please?
great – now they’ll walk Jeter to get to Mo
“James
June 28th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Erica, i would’ve done the same thing too. Maybe your pretend boyfriend gets a baseknock here.”
Not quite… but so close
LOL trickery
Mo gonna get another hit!! Grand slam I’m calling it.
how great woud it be if Mo gets a bases clearing double off k rod?
Donnie- He has been talking about it the entire game. Just as they’ve been talking about the ball Wang misdirected.
a grand slam from rivera would be so money!
uh, really – does anyone believe Mo is coming out?
I would like to see Rivera hit again. He didn’t exactly embarrass himself last time
is this a joke?
“jon miller = genius, like his plan for jeter to move positions. what was it? jeter to third and a-rod to the outfield? how is this man not a GM somewhere?”
Lol yea, he said Jeter to 3rd and Arod to Center Field lol hahaha. Then Phillips said that would make Miller a very good General Manager, because that was a creative thought.
that’s stupid.
“The catcher needs to catch the first, toss it then catch the second.”
peter-
the only way i’d ever catch the second one is if it landed where i was laying after diving for the first.
someone should get that pena drill on video.
it would become an instant you tube classic.
Can someone explain to me how they can have a different player in the on deck circle (other than Mo)?
WHAT!!!
they are pitching to him?
Erica – newly OPPC
June 28th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
“You have now been promoted to the Yankee manager, Erica “Jo Girardi”.”
GB7-
This is awesome. Even better than when I inserted myself into the lineup in the #8 spot to play 3rd base. I will be an awesome Yankee manager
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As long as you don’t limp.
Oh! and for the idiots that like to hammer players over their personal lives. And stay away from Madonna.
Surprised they’re pitching to Jeter.
I wanna see K-Rod vs Mo.
K Rod looks like Bruney
Why didn’t they just walk him originally? Why waste the 3 pitches? …make them pay Mo???
damn
well – apparently they got a little smarter
yes, rivera with the bases loaded.
i see major things coming…
Mo hitting. Twice in one year. Amazing.
“I would like to see Rivera hit again. He didn’t exactly embarrass himself last time”
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as nice as it would be to see it, I’d rather Mariano stick to pitching.
He’s too valuable to risk injury hitting. Even if it’s a very small risk.
DEREK YOU HAVE TO JUMP ALL OVER THAT FIRST PITCH!!!!!
Come on, Mo!
jeters face was priceless
can Mo work a walk here?
Hahahha at Jeter’s face.
HAHAHAHAHA lol . Did anyone just see Jeter’s face on that replay. He was like “haha, these guys are crazy”
Mo’s poking one in. I’m calling it.
jeter’s facial reaction to that situation was classic.
i see a walk coming to mo
LOL this should be fun
Mo should make KRod throw strikes
show cano how its done!
walk him krod
2-0 count to mo…holy crap
Dave,
his history is one of overthrowing and now he has a shaky elbow.
I understand what Girardi is doing. He’s giving the guy a shot. I just think the better option is Bruney-Hughes rather than vice versa.
I also think Hughes will be be the 8th inning guy soon if he keeps dominating as he has out of the pen.
It would be great if Mo is the only guy who ends up getting a hit with RISP.
Pitching around Mo.
2-0?
This is awesome. he is pitching around Mo
If Rivera sees anything but changeups, I’ll be shocked.
What would be more satisfying here? A walk to Mo, or a base knock?
that was outside
Mo with a foul ball! the entire dugout panics!
slider coming?
Color me “SHOCKED”!!!!
I love Rivera…
OH MY GOD
HE WALKED MO!!!
WTH
hHAHAHAHAHAHAH
hahaha go mets!!! yeah, mo!!!!
greatest at bat ever
MO WITH THE EYES OF AN EAGLE!!!!!!!!!!!
yes!!!
rbi for mo!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH!
RBI for Mo!!!!!!!!!
You gotta love it!
he walked Mo
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
HA HA Mets suck. Walk the closer.
somewhere, bruney smiles.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pardon me, I have do go point to the sky, do a stupid dance, and then point to the sky again.
Nice AB by Mo!
wow, just wow
unreal.
Mo!!!
LOL. Cano should take lessons from Mo!
Forget the greatest closer of all time.
Mo may be the greatest baseball player of all time…
First career RBI
uh TEX – what are you doing!
in the immortal words of Brian Bruney..
it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
wow, he walked Mo!!!
wow, he walked Mo!!!
Alright!
He didn’t get his hit but not a bad at bat.
He shamed him!
sometimes baseball is just plain fun.
rivera walks against krod with the bases loaded.
wow.
MO: EPIC!
That was the greatest at bat I have ever seen.
lmao @ krod with the control issues now. this is great.
That walk made my night.
As this game inches towards Monday morning baseball….
I have a 4:30 al