Game 76: Mariners at Yankees (with pre-game updates and Cashman audio — 8:05 new first pitch time)
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YANKEES (43-32)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (4-2, 3.81).
MARINERS (39-36)
Ichiro RF
Branyan 1B
Lopez 2B
Griffey LF
Sweeney DH
Gutierrez CF
Woodward 3B
Johjima C
Cedeno SS
Pitching: RHP Brandon Morrow (0-3, 5.64).
TIME/TV: 7:05, YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees return home having won five straight and finishing 10-8 in interleague play. They’re 11 games over .500, matching the high-water mark of the season.
PITCHING PROWESS: The Yankees have a 2.50 ERA in their last four games. Over 36 innings they have allowed 30 hits with 15 walks and 46 strikeouts.
FATIGUED NO MORE: Alex Rodriguez in the last seven games: 8 of 23 (.348) with two homers, 11 RBI, five runs scored and nine walks.
MO MOTORS ON: In his lasts seven appearances, Mariano Rivera has allowed one run on two hits over 7.1 innings. He has walked 1 and struck out 11. Just FYI: Mo has a WHIP of 1.01 and Jonathan Papelbon is at 1.35.
WHAT A RELIEF: Phil Hughes has appeared in seven games out of the bullpen. Over 12 innings he has allowed two runs on five hits with three walks and 15 strikeouts. Opponents are hitting .122 against him.
CANO’S SLUMP: Robinson Cano is 8 of 37 (.216) with no RBI over his last nine games.
OFF THE MARK: Mark Teixeira has gone 55 at at-bats since his last home run, which came on June 12. He is 12 of 54 (.222) with six RBI over his last 14 games.
MATSUI MISSING: Hideki Matsui is 2 of his last 16 with no RBI over 11 games.
Back with more later.
UPDATE, 4:15 p.m.: Hinske’s plane is delayed in Pittsburgh. He may or may not be here. Hence, no roster move.
UPDATE, 4:19 p.m.: Girardi just said that Hughes is a “full-fledged reliever” who can be used in any sutuation.
UPDATE, 5:13 p.m.: Bad weather rolling in.
UPDATE, 5;58 p.m.: Raining here in the Bronx but they’re hopeful it’ll move past. … A few notes for you:
• Cashman and Girardi both said that Phil Hughes is still considered a starter moving forward. But for now he’s needed in the bullpen. “It’s a balance and the main requirement is winning as many games as it takes to make the playoffs,” Cashman said.
Hughes said he would feel differently if he were 26 and not 23. But he pointed out, quite correctly, that he has proven he can get AAA hitters out. He thinks he’s better off here learning how to get big-league hitters out in high leverage situations. “Then when the times comes, I’ll start,” he said. “If I get 100 good innings this year, I’ll be fine,” he said.
• Nick Swisher was in the hospital for a few hours today with a left ear infection but says he’s OK.
• The Hinske move was directly related to Nady going down. Pena will be optioned out once Hinske arrives (which may not be tonight) and he worked as a super-sub type. They want to see if he can play the OF.
I’m sure this move will be over-analyzed, as always. To me, he’s a better offensive threat than Pena off the bench and Pena had played very sparingly in recent weeks. If it doesn’t work out, try somebody else. It’s a low-cost move.
• Brian Bruney shaved his mustache. He wanted to lose it a few days ago because he hasn’t been pitching as well as he wants. But he had a bet with Phil Hughes that he would keep it until the All-Star break and didn’t want to give in.
But Hughes, being a magnanimous guy, cut a deal with Bruney. So Bruney shaved it off 15 minutes ago and Hughes will soon get a black Bose Sound Dock for his iPod. No fool is Hughes.
• Tony Romo (and an entourage of dozens) watched batting practice. To his credit, he was with a sick child.
UPDATE, 6:09 p.m.: Here is Brian Cashman on the field before BP talking about the trade and Phil Hughes. The sound quality isn’t so good because it was windy. Did the best I could:
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It’s raining steadily here. We’ll keep you posted on the game.
UPDATE, 6:15 p.m.: This from the Yankees:
The Yanks will make every attempt to play tonight’s game vs. the Mariners. Weather updates will be posted as they become available.
Meanwhile, guess who is throwing out the first pitch? Mariano Rivera. Pretty cool.
UPDATE, 6:47 p.m.: We’re not starting on time, that much I can tell you. It’s raining and the tarp is down. As always, we’ll keep you posted.
UPDATE, 6:53 p.m.: Yankees projecting a 7:45 p.m. first pitch.
UPDATE, 7:27 p.m.: Rain has stopped, about to pull the tarp.
UPDATE, 7:31 p.m.: 8:05 first pitch now.
UPDATE, 8:05 p.m.: That was great, Mo threw out the first pitch and Jorge came out from behind the plate like he was an old man. Funny stuff. Cool idea whoever came up with it.
We’re about to get underway.
UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: Do Johnny Damon’s bats come pre-broken? Seems that way.
UPDATE, 8:31 p.m.: Hinske is not here, apparently. Or not on the lineup card at least.
According to assorted excited e-mailers, Jesus Montero has homered twice for Trenton tonight in support of Jeremy Bleich.
UPDATE, 9:10 p.m.: Somebody just threw back a ground-rule double. Enough is enough. Eject that dope.
UPDATE, 9:25 p.m.: Brutal at-bat for Swisher with the bases loaded and no outs. They should have sent a jet for Hinske.
UPDATE, 9:31 p.m.: Yankees up 3-1 and it feels like it they’ve been sleeping. It could be 6-1.
UPDATE, 9:42 p.m.: This has nothing whatsoever to do with who is catching. Joba, for whatever reason, refuses to challenge hitters at certain points of the game. He has such good stuff and he nibbles like a he’s a washed-up vet trying to hang on.
UDPATE, 9:58 p.m.: Cano leads off two innings and gets hits. Then he comes to the plate with two on and whiffs.
UPDATE, 10:12 p.m.: Yankees 0 for 9 with RISP and have left seven on base, four in scoring position.
Meanwhile, Joba works his usual 5.1 innings. He has made 15 starts and failed to get beyond the sixth inning 12 times. One was because of injury. But, as always, he has the team in the game. The Yankees are 9-5 when he starts.
UPDATE, 10:27 p.m.: Hughes in with a 3-3 score. Big spot for him. Lots of pre-game talk about how well he has taken to this role.
UPDATE, 10:33 p.m.: Isn’t that how Mo started? 13 innings, 2 runs, 16 Ks. Filthy. He fanned Junior with 96-mph cheese.
UPDATE, 10:41 p.m.: Hey, it’s a hit with RISP. Better yet, it’s a two-run bomb by A-Rod. Yankees lead 5-3.
I’d leave Hughes in, but they won’t.
UPDATE, 10:46 p.m.: That’s 13 RBI in eight games for Alex. Pretty amazing that he has 39 RBI already.
Bruney in. I’m saying in advance I don’t like this. Hughes was lights out, leave him in.
UPDATE, 10:53 p.m.: Like I said.
UPDATE, 10:56 p.m.: Here is what I don’t get: If you’re going to pitch Hughes in relief, then pitch him in relief. Let him pitch two innings, it builds up his innings and serves the purpose of winning games. Everybody wins.
He threw nine pitches in the seventh. Leave. Him. In.
UPDATE, 11:00 p.m.: New game. Girardi managed them right out of a win there, at least for now.
UPDATE, 11:09 p.m.: Winning pitcher—Brian Bruney (3-0). Makes a lot of sense, right?
As bad as Bruney was, Sean White is even worse. Holy cow. Clutchy Cabrera does it again.
Gotta win!
let’s keep that streak alive
goin for #6 tonight…will we ever get a mobile version of the blog for phones?
“will we ever get a mobile version of the blog for phones?”
Yes, I’d like a response to that.
Tonight, I’d like to see Cano finally banished from the number 5 spot and Joba throwing to Posada without shaking him off.
I’m thinking I go 0-2 tonight…
Reposting:
The mariners pitching staff is good because they play in an incredibly pitcher friendly ballpark and until recently had the most RIDICULOUS OUTFIELD DEFENSE ever. They had 3 CF caliber players patrolling each position.
Their ERA is .8 higher on the road is a similiar number of IP.
Yankee stadium should do well to hurt them also.
certainly hope jorgies not enjoying too many of those mcdonalds snack wraps — ads hes featured in over to the right
That’s three guys who are slumping – Robbie, Tex, and Matsui (“Boy, what a bunch of lazy, selfish, stupid players!”)
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hinske spend a lot of time at DH – If Matsui can’t get it going (knees, whatever is ailing him), be hard not to look elsewhere for a possible hot hand, especially a lefty in Yankee Stadium.
i thought i was getting a new and improved mobile version of the blog on my phone. it used to only show 5 comments per page. i couldn’t stand that. now it’s all of them.
What no Hinske?
I would have liked to see Jorge in the 5 spot. I think that would be better protection for Alex.
Hughes to the bullpen! Has anybody called onto Francesca’s show to ask him about that one yet? Seriously, great starting pitchers are going to be great relievers. There’s more evidence that Hughes should be in the bullpen than Joba so why do people continue to insist that Joba should be a reliever?
queue the cano batting 5th whine
Ha Cano continues to bat 5th.
again cano at 5 did anyone watch him ground in to 4 dp’s or was it just me.
Another thing to keep in mind is that they have played games in Petco, SF, Oakland, etc in addition to Safeco. Their ERA in hitters parks are all around 5. They rely a lot on defense and are not a strike out squad.
With the exception of King Felix, who we missed
Not sure if anybody was listening to it but Francessa had David Wells who weighed in on the Jorge truth movement. He said that while there can be personality issues from time to time Jorge is one of the best catchers at handling pitchers in this generation. He puts Jorge and his preparation on par with Varitek when it comes to knowing the batters.
Now I know Wells is a maniac but it was definitely food for thought.
“What no Hinske?”
No. He was signed as a utility player, not a starter.
Bodhi-In the previous thread you asked what my username means. It refers to Yankees vs. Red Sox, where all but 2 games have not been played in OUR house (the Stadium). Originally there was no AGAIN until some knucklehead came in calling himself “They already beat us in OUR house”.
Not really sinister or exciting, but there you go.
“They had 3 CF caliber players patrolling each position.”
League made them go back to 1 CF patrolling each position, right?
Mike Lowell 15 day DL to calm down barking hip. Joe and Alex take heed, please.
Fran, I agree…someone mentioned being worried about the Yankees slamming a square peg into a round hole if Hinske doesn’t play well at 3rd…that’s what they seem to be doing with Cano…of course an equal number of people complained last season when Girardi seemed to have a drastically different lineup every day last year.
Erp. This don’t look too promising:
http://www.weather.com/weather.....ayer=radar
As long as we win, I don’t really care where Cano bats.
But if he’s having bad at-bats(swinging at slop), then he needs to work on his approach.
melky over gardner…why?;;
welcome back, DH…
“again cano at 5 did anyone watch him ground in to 4 dp’s or was it just me.”
I just thought they were showing the same one 4 times.
League made them go back to 1 CF patrolling each position, right?
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Not sure what you are getting at, because I clearly said CF Caliber.
Chavez, Ichiro, and Gutierrez
Yikes Rebecca. That looks ominous. It’s supposed to be raining the next three days at times. Will it ever stop raining in NYC?
It might be moving northeast, not east. But I wouldn’t bet on it…
Where the hell is Gardner? Don’t bench my baby
John,
Why not? I’m a Gardner fan, but melky deserves to play, too. haha.
Gardner could be sick? Cabrera could be feeling better?
Girardi could be giving all his guys playing time?
Oh nevermind I get what you are saying, but you ought not pick nits.
they had 3 CF caliber players to fill 3 OF spots.
Cano is hitting the ball hard. He is a line drive hitter and has just been getting unlucky lately. Those will start to find holes and the DPs will go down soon enough
Jerkface,
lol. Sounded like you had 9 players patrolling the outfield.
“Erp. This don’t look too promising”
If you click on “future” you will see that the rain is heading North and for the most part misses NYC.
Whatever we get it will be very brief.
I hate Cano in the five hole. Always did. Posada should be in the five hole.
It’s only a strong chance of rain for like an hour, amateur meteorologists.
“Not sure what you are getting at, because I clearly said CF Caliber”
Way you wrote read like they were using 9 outfielders (3 CF caliber players patrolling each position).
I knew what you were saying but was pretty much being a jerkf…er, jackass about it.
“melky over gardner…why?;;”
They need rest from time to time.
Rebecca is an optimist when it comes to baseball. Weather, not so much …
With the way their OF has performed they might as well be 9 guys.
Chip June 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Cano is hitting the ball hard. He is a line drive hitter and has just been getting unlucky lately. Those will start to find holes and the DPs will go down soon enough
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Cano’s been leading the team in GIDP for the whole year.
Brandon R.I.P King of Pop
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They need to bench him time to time?!?!
The Yankees had the day off yesterday
With the way their OF has performed they might as well be 9 guys.
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If only I could say the same about the M’s infield ;-(
Corners = great. Up the middle = not so much.
Oh – and now they are short at the hot corner w/Adrian out for recurring bone spurs in his shoulder. Surgery was today and he’ll be out at least 6 weeks. We are still awaiting word as to who will be taking his place…
saucy: You know me well.
I don’t have a phobia of bad baseball…(though, perhaps, I should)
Any word on the roster move made to add Hinske?
Also, Gardner plays best when he DOESN’T play every day.
Cashman coming on with Kay in 5 minutes. Approx 4:05 pm eastern time.
I like this lineup. I’m expecting a good performance out of Joba (who has yet to win at home). The M’s (if I recall correctly) are a team of free swingers, so if he can get strike 1 to most batters, he should do fine.
SJ – thanks for the FYI.
Guys,
Players don’t need a day off from playing in a game when they had a day off yesterday. lol
Cashman on now.
Anyone know if there is a homestand meet-and-greet tonight?
This is a nice pickup ( Hinske )….Tough call on Pena / Ransom….I suspect Cody will stay simply for his slight edge at the plate…Pena’s glove and late inning baserunning option will be missed, but Gardner will see more late inning baserunning to fill that void and he is the 4th OF at any rate….
When did NYC turn into Seattle or London? Does it ever not rain anymore?
vote for tex!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone do it…..
Man, Cashman can sure ramble on. lol
cashman on what espn radio
I don’t know what the deal is about keeping Ransom on the roster, especially over Pena. He’s a lot worse on defense, plays less positions and is only marginally better with a bat, if at all, over Pena.
Why is Robbie still batting 5th?
Guys
Any truth to the “leaked names”?
“A so-called 2003 steroid list appeared on Rotoinfo and has now spread across the web. The list allegedly consists of the names of all the 104 players who flunked baseball’s anonymous round of drug tests that year?”
Rob Neyer’s take on the deal:
You might wonder what the Yankees would want with a guy like Hinske, who’s not having a good season and is nobody’s idea of a future star. Well, the Yankees need a guy like Hinske. He can play four positions passably enough and he can still hit enough to give you a chance, particularly against right-handed pitching. Look at the Yankees’ bench, pre-Hinske … there is one extra outfielder: either Melky Cabrera or Brett Gardner (whichever of them isn’t playing center field in a given game).
Are there better fifth outfielders than Hinske? Maybe. But very few of them can also play first base and third base. Considering Hinske’s negligible salary and the two “prospects” the Yankees sent to Pittsburgh — neither was ranked among the Yankees’ 30 best prospects before this season — this might qualify as the smartest deal of the month.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/swe.....mbers.html
Cashman is the master of saying nothing…. but doing so in 1,000 words.
Cashman- Pena is talented and only has 21 ABs in June.
That’s the best answer for why he needs to go down. Playing time.
Ace– someone last night said that they knew Barry Bonds had not tested positive on that list yet was in the one from Rotoworld. A few other inconsistencies were noted too. Pete also said it was a fraud. It would be all over the tv and radio if it were true.
“I don’t know what the deal is about keeping Ransom on the roster, especially over Pena”
The Yanks have options left on Pena. Not sure about Ransom.
Ace-No. It is a total fake.
Cashman can write a whole set of books about 1 day.
Stateman52 June 30th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
What no Hinske?
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He still hasn’t landed. They aren’t going to have the guy get off the plane and walk on the field.
Also we are about to get slammed with rain. YEAH we need it and just in time to leave work.
Man I still can’t believe how close the Yanks came to trading Mo…
I wonder how many times a day Cashman uses the word “process”? lol
actually just read his plane is delayed. In all likelihood he will not get here for the start of the game.
Robbie CANNOT hit high in the order
Bat him 9th and he will hit .400…
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”
June 30th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Cashman can write a whole set of books about 1 day.
He is actually the lead writer for the show 24.
“Robbie CANNOT hit high in the order
Bat him 9th and he will hit .400…”
that is ridiculous, either he can hit or not.
Milledge traded to the Pirates for Nyjer Morgan and Shawn Burnett.
Rebecca,
I was just reading an article on that as well. Imagine, Mo for David Wells? If that was a present day trade, New York would riot, haha.
Hi there, everyone.
Well, who saw the Hinske move coming? Not me, that’s for sure.
Pena will be back in September, and if what people wrote about him learning the outfield positions, too, that could end up being a good thing for both him and the Yankees. I think the move also solidifies that Cervelli will be going down when Molina gets back.
Those two kids have done a surprisingly good job since they were called up, from AA no less. Imagine the confidence they go to SWB with! I’m sure we’ll be seeing them in September at the latest.
“They aren’t going to have the guy get off the plane and walk on the field.”
that’s why they have parachutes!!
“He is actually the lead writer for the show 24.”
More like co-wrote The Encyclopedia Pritanica
Bob(the original) June 30th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
I wonder how many times a day Cashman uses the word “process”? lol
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“process” is definitely one of Cashman’s favorite words. lol
Brandon-”Baat him ninth” seems like a joke. But there is some truth to the idea that certainj players do better higher (or lower) in a lineup than others.
Yawn… more rain around gametime…. what else is knew?
Milledge traded to the Bucs. Ummm IDK how to react to that.
You people are actually tracking Hinske’s flight? Really? He’s a bench player. Relax about it already.
You’re acting like Red Sox fans.
Damn, I turned Kay’s interview on once they reached the subject of Hughes.
Did Cashman say anything compelling– Cashman compelling, right– before the Hughes subject arose in the interview?
missed the first part of Cash’s interview. what did he say about the Hinske trade?
He said basically they are gonna do whatever helps the team this year with Hughes. Of course he used about 1000 more words to say it.
Doreen,
That’s exactly what you do with kids. If they show promise, you do more with them to finish polishing their games.
Ramiro Pena getting 21 AB’s in June doesn’t help him develop.
Same goes for Cervelli.
Teams that go into and deep into October have veterans on their bench because they have the experience to handle infrequent work. That’s why having Molina and Hinske here is better for the Yankees for the rest of the season than Pena and Cervelli.
Kids like Pena and Cervelli will be on the team next year and playing more prominent roles.
To do so, they need more work in AAA. That’s the proper way of developing talent.
Baat is bat.
Taylor, Bastardo, Jason Werth for Wang please
Can we get a police escort to deliver Hinske to the stadium?
Rebecca, did Cashman say anything informative or did he resort to his usual platitudes?
Why would the Yankees trade Wang, who still CAN be good, for taylor, bastardo (who has a bum shoulder and is on the dl) and werth (who the phillies wouldn’t trade since he’s their third best hitter the last month?
Cano doesn’t need to bat ninth to do well. 6th or 7th is right for him. Girardi keeps putting him in 5th as if something magically is going to happen and he’ll do well there. All we’ll get are more DPs.
Bastardo just went to the DL.
Kill.schill: Alas, nothing I picked out that we don’t already know.
Is it all right for me not to hate Schilling? He’s doone amazing charitable work to find a cure for ALS and named his son Gehrig.
It hurts to lose Pena, we all love watching him play but it’s probably best for him to be in AAA right now. Just as it will be best for Cervelli to go down when Molina is back.
Even though we all know Pena is better than Ransom, the difference between the two is minuscule because of how little they are used.
Pena will be back with the team in September and back full-time in 2010.
Everyone vote for Teixeira for the all-star game, Youklis just edged in front of him!!
Also, vote for Ian Kinsler, as he leads Pedroia by just 6,000 votes
The Yankees like the idea of having one too many pitchers in the rotation. They aren’t trading Wang unless PHI is sending Hamels back in the deal. And we know that ain’t happening!
Bastardo is on the 15 day DL.
If they ever got an offer like Bastardo/Taylor and filler…they be crazy not to make that deal.
I wonder how Phil can get enough innings this year to be a full time starter next year, now that he’s in the bullpen probably for the rest of the season.
Ahhh relief. A lineup with a DH. Now excuse me while I go listen to my Ipod and watch digital TV…all things that just compliment this new 21st century lineup.
Pena going down is best for the kid long term. He’ll be back, but after averaging less than four AB a week for more than a month he nees to play.
As I wrote on two other threads I would have dropped Tomko because another player on the bench is more useful than the 12th pitcher on the staff. Tomko appeared in just seven games in June and five them weren’t close when he came in. You need 12 pitchers when your starters aren’t very good, but with the way the Yanks are going now the 12th guy on the pitching staff is just a small step above the Maytag repairman.
Of course, no reason anyone else should share my animosity for the man.
Thanks, Rebecca.
“If they ever got an offer like Bastardo/Taylor and filler…they be crazy not to make that deal.”
I’ll be getting a pinstriped jersey with Bastardo on the back, which would count as one of the most awesome things ever.
“UPDATE, 4:19 p.m.: Girardi just said that Hughes is a “full-fledged reliever” who can be used in any sutuation.”
OH REALLY ?
“Can we get a police escort to deliver Hinske to the stadium?”
Don’t fool around with a police escort. Charter a helicopter and land him behind second base right before the National Anthem. Roll out the red carpet and Suzyn Waldman can introduce him to the cheering crowd.
Lots of people do charitable things, doesn’t mean they’re worthy of respect, though.
I’m sure Schilling’s a good guy. His mouth? Not so much.
Yeah Pete ask your tech department about a mobile version of this blog.
“I’ll be getting a pinstriped jersey with Bastardo on the back, which would count as one of the most awesome things ever.”
He comes off the DL, we stick him in the BP and Tony the bastard comes out around the 7th or 8th inning as a shut down reliever.
Brandon,
Just because they’re doing it doesn’t mean it’s the right thing. It’s entirely possible that the Yankees can win without Phil Hughes in the bullpen.
Unfortunately, Bruney has not proved that he can be reliable, yet.
Georgie Girl might pass out over such an exciting entrance
If Hughes can now be used in any situation instead of saving him for Wang’s starts, I hope they let him bust off a bunch of 2 IP, 3 IP outings.
m-Yeah, but he did it for no reason except that it touched his start. He didn’t know anybody with ALS, he had nothing personally vested in finding a cure. He just wanted to help.
By the way, I wasn’t joking about young Gehrig Schilling.
I would love to know what Hughes himself thinks of his new role.
I do not think the Yanks could win w/o Hughes in the pen.
He is a “full fledged reliever”.
Code: He will be the 8th inning guy very soon for the rest of the season.
Before people have a heart attack, he will be back in the rotation next year.
“Taylor, Bastardo and Werth for Wang please”.
The Phillies two best propsects AND their starting RF for Wang?
There has to be other blogs you can post these fantasy trades than this one.
Another trade that has 0% chance of happening.
What’s next, Albert Pujols for Wang, move Tex to third and DH Arod?
“I would love to know what Hughes himself thinks of his new role.”
Phil: Well it beats the minors.
The benefit of Hughes in the pen is that he is getting a bunch of awesome highlight reel material for his starter montage in 2010, you know? Really airing out the fastball for K’s and throwing a wicked curve in ‘late innings’.
SJ44-I kind of like the Pujols deal.
SJ: If the Cardnials gave up Pujols in his prime for anyone, and I mean anyone, they should be contracted.
“What’s next, Albert Pujols for Wang, move Tex to third and DH Arod?”
Great idea, SJ. I’m sure this will be the next big talking point when the offense goes through a dry spell. Wang, Jackson and Montero for Pujols!
I much rather have the switch hitting Posada in the 5 hole…..I cannot imagine Young Master Hughes throwing back to back games….Cashamn is smoke screening eveyone as he works the phones and brings in a real 8th inning reliever….The Rockies will be falling out of the Wild Card equation very soon, maybe as quickly as the Dodgers sweep them……Street will be moving, and the Yanks are scouting his every move…….He very well is the deal sealer for playing the week of Halloween
I wouldn’t trade Pujols for the entire 2009 Mets squad
Clearly it beats the minors (and did he really say that?). I meant what he thinks about his role in the future, like a ‘where do you see yourself in five years’ type of thing.
Uhhh-
Hate that Hughes is a “full-fledged” bullpen guy- can someone please tell me who now comes up if an injury happens in our rotation? If Hughes is in the pen then can we please start building up Aceves’ arm to be ready to start? We are going to find ourselves in the same situation we have been in in years past with a retread or a kid that’s not ready to go starting a big game or the second game of a double header. Can’t wait for Igawa!
In a very recent article on mlb.com, Hughes said he sees himself as a starter, but that he prefers to be in the majors than the minors and thinks that some people get too caught up in the starter/reliever thing and let it get to them.
Hughes approach is like Joba’s, I’m in the bullpen, so I might as well dominate.
He is taking a good approach to it, but has made it known and cashman has backed him, that he is a starter.
Rebecca,
Don’t worry, near the deadline, we will have bozos come on here, propose those moves, and then get ticked off Cashman doesn’t do it.
Its pretty clear they aren’t going to make ANY move that weakens the parent club for the rest of the season. Meaning, they aren’t going to trade a starting pitcher (Wang) because it weakens the team.
Off-season is off-season. Anything can happen in the winter.
In season? No chance of that happening.
The M’s (if I recall correctly) are a team of free swingers, so if he can get strike 1 to most batters, he should do fine.
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Ah, but these are not your father’s Mariners
Granted, their walks are still WAY to few but, they are at least starting to make pitchers work. It has been noted that Jack Z seems to have made P/PA a high priority (but it’s a slow process)
lol. Listening to the espn updates on 1050. “Joba Chamberlain and Brandon Morrow…blah, blah, blah…No Brett Gardner in the lineup”
Over at RAB they had a very interesting post about the Yankees trying to trade for David Wells back in 1995. They have a link to an NY Times story that details how the yanks lost out on Wells that year despite George’s love of wells:
“As for Wells, Watson acknowledged that he and Gene Michael, his predecessor, who remains active in personnel matters, had spoken with the Reds, most recently the middle of last week.
“The asking price was too high,” he said. “They wanted two of our top minor leaguers. That’s why we backed off. We couldn’t do that.”
Jim Bowden, the Reds’ general manager, declined to discuss the Yankees’ involvement, but an official familiar with the Wells talks said Steinbrenner called Bowden Saturday night and offered pitcher Mariano Rivera and catcher Jorge Posada.”
Just imagine – Jorge Posada and Mo for David Wells.
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....era-13917/
We can’t use Aceves as the 6th man because he is also valuable in the pen. If a starter goes down I can see Girardi using Aceves and Hughes for the entire game half and half, or Aceves/Hughes for 3-4 and then fill out the rest.
Spot starters late in the season could be a guy like ‘Chevy’ Nova ( recently promoted to AAA ), Igawa, Jason Johnson(is he still alive?)
Cano is still hitting fifth. Girardi is the master of adjustments. I mean are you kidding me? Cano chokes in every single big spot lately, I mean literally every single one, he is hurting the team. Posada needs to be in front of him and it’s a simple decision. Enough about Cano hitting some of the balls hard, he is a double play machine as of late, Posada should have been moved ahead of him ages ago
Pat M:
Respectfully, I disagree. I think the Rockie will challenge for the NL Wild Card.
They won’t catch the Dodgers, but no one in the NL Central or NL East has performed nearly as well as the Rockies have over the last month. They’re not selling quite yet.
Sigh. The whole reason why it wouldn’t make sense to have Joba in the bullpen still applies to Phil: It will hold back his development as a starter.
If he is in the bullpen for the rest of the season, he will come no where close to his innings requirements, meaning he will have to be capped again next year. Joba, no matter what, will be capped next year as well. So 40% of the staff will be capped. That is going to be unpleasant.
Phil in the bullpen helps the 2009 Yanks and will hurt the 2010 Yanks. Personally, given Bruney and Aceves success in the pen, I think it will hurt the 2010 Yanks way more than it will help the 2009 Yanks.
But, I trust Cashman and Girardi know more about this situation than I do. Maybe they plan on stretching Phil out in Winter ball after the season is over.
So I guess Hughes’ being a full-fledged relief pitcher has as much to do, or probably more to do, with Wang’s situation than anything Hughes has or hasn’t done. And I guess he passed the “entering an inning with a runner on base” test the other night.
But you know that if there is a need for a starter for some reason that Phil Hughes is the guy, right?
I think “full-fledged” refers to the situation(s) he’ll be used in, rather than saying he’s not going to start ever.
UPDATE, 4:19 p.m.: Girardi just said that Hughes is a “full-fledged reliever” who can be used in any sutuation.
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Phil Youuuuuse is a starting pitchah!
Hughes is taking the perfect attitude to his role. That’s why he is excelling at it.
When he goes back to the rotation, he will be better for this experience.
In the meantime, he’s a big weapon for the Yankees in the pen, as Joba was in 2007, which is good for the team.
Oy, Francesa: Peña needs a few more ABs before you can annoint him Jeter’s successor.
Holy crap it just got dark out =(
Those are two cool facts. Add to that the fact that he and Shonda (sp?) do a lot to educate about skin cancer.
But still, this is Schilling.
I’m glad you can like him. You’re a much better person than me.
Observer283-I disagree. Joba in the pen in 07 was an excellent move. Next year Joba’s innings limit will be higher, so we can afford Hughes to be on an innings limit.
SJ is correct. hughes in the pen will not slow his long term growth as a starter.
he is still getting big leaugers out and in pressure situations should just help his mental approach and confidence..
pettitte is gone after this year and philly will replace him in the rotation….
http://www.replacementlevel.co.....r_leaguers
Good article by RLYW. The difference between Hinske and Ransom is 9 runs over the rest of the season which is ~ 1 win. So we basically just added 1 win for nothing, statistically.
Now imagine the diff between Hinske and Pena, who would not project nearly as well as Ransom with the bat.
Oy, Francesa: Peña needs a few more ABs before you can annoint him Jeter’s successor.
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I think diet coke has a little man-crush on him
“Holy crap it just got dark out =( ”
That’s just Big Papi’s @$$ blocking the sun.
Hughes isn’t succeeded because of his attitude. Its because of his talent. I’m sure Edwar has a great tude too.
Phil Hughes wants to stay with the big club. He realizes that doing relief work accomplishes that so he’s committed himself fully to his new role. Gotta give the kid props for that.
When all is said and done, I bet Hughes will be close to 120-130 innings by the end of the year. Meaning, he will be good to go for 150-170 innings as a starter next year.
In the meantime, he’s helping the team win games working out of the bullpen.
The idea is to try and win the World Series. Phil Hughes’ current role helps in that regard. Last I checked, that’s more important than him facing Lehigh Valley in a series in Scranton to get innings.
In defense of Francesa (I can’t believe I just typed that), it’s nearing the end of Jeter’s career and one does start to wonder, who’s next? He’s definitely premature, both in timing and in the particular replacement, but I understand the thought process a little. On this one issue. And I didn’t hear anything he said, just going by what I just read here. (Disclaimers!)
Brandon: LMAO!!
Man, I need help. I gotta get over this fear of storms somehow.
Mo, what do you think? Should Hughes start or be in the pen, considering that you were a failed starter.
I don’t know about you guys, but between Hughes and Joba, I prefer Hughes in the pen.
I don’t know how many remember, but Joba always seemed to struggle in a second inning of work. Hughes has been lights out for two, even three innings at a time.
. at end is ?
Phil has talent? I thought he was succeeding because of what Damon said.
Talent can trump all, but to succeed in a game where you are playing the top 1% of the world’s players you need to combine all three.
Edwar may have had a good attitude, ok. But all the signs point to Hughes having a good attitude, and that combined with his talent have made him >>>>>>>>>>>>> Edwar ever was.
You can mention a players good attitude without taking it as a slight to someone who is not succeeding, because you’d have to look at the reasons for that player not succeeding.
Maybe Edwar didn’t have a good attitude and didn’t try to adjust or work with his coaches or hated coming into lopsided games and lost focus. We don’t know, so lets not talk about that.
Lets just talk about Hughes absolutely owning the mound every time he pitches.
Wait, Joba was approaching his innings limit in ’07. So, the Yankees were going to have him start a couple more minor league games and then shut him down anyway. It didn’t hurt his development to bring him up to the big club’s bullpen. It will hurt Phil’s development to curtail his innings and starting experience.
Plus, I don’t think Phil can be capped at 180 next year if he finishes this year around 100 (which he will if he’s in the pen). So, presuming capped around 150-160ish and Joba is 180, that actually is a lot of innings that the Yankees are going to find from someone not named Phil, CC, Joba, AJ, or Wang.
Rivera throwing out tonight’s first pitch.
“Any truth to the “leaked names”?
“A so-called 2003 steroid list appeared on Rotoinfo and has now spread across the web. The list allegedly consists of the names of all the 104 players who flunked baseball’s anonymous round of drug tests that year?”
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No clue if this list (which you can see at http://www.nowpublic.com/sport.....bably-fake) is legit or not, but its riddled with Red Sox. I’ve always wondered how next to no Beaneaters appeared on the Mitchell Report. This would be damning to their “holier than thou” philosophy….
Rebecca,
I prefer neither!
Observer283-But we also don’t know their plan in the offseason. Maybe he’ll play winter ball.
Jon Ringland-It’s a piece of crap fake list.
“Rivera throwing out tonight’s first pitch.”
He’s starting tonight
The real list is not a treasure trove of super stars and Cubs/Red Sox players.
Brandon: Heh, I still remember Rivera getting a spot start in 1999, I think it was…
His attitude is just as important as his talent.
He isn’t looking at the move as a demotion and has taken on the challenge. That has allowed his talent to take over.
The two go hand and hand.
If you have a bad attitude (“I’m a starting pitcha”) you aren’t going to succeed in the bullpen, regardless of talent.
They got Eric Hinske, a veteran and productive major league bench player, for two non-prospects and the Pirates are paying HALF his remaining salary for the rest of the year.
That means, the Yankees are paying him 400k, the major league minimum, to play for them.
That’s a steal, financially and for what he brings to the team as a player.
I wonder if Hughes is thinking ” Hey, where are MY rules”
“Jon Ringland-It’s a piece of crap fake list.”
Figured as much :-\
It wasn’t too long ago Francesa was tired of watching Pena and was ready to get rid out him (April). Now he wants him to replace Jeter? SMH
“Peña needs a few more ABs before you can annoint him Jeter’s successor.”
His offense has progressed with baby steps, the bat will come, but I’m more intrigued with his defense most of all. He’s been outstanding & fun to watch. Cervelli is the same, great defesne, & his bat will get better. Its probably best for Peña to go to AAA & develop. Seems like a great kid also.
I noticed Aaron Boone’s name on that list…evidently the roids only worked for one pitch
Hinske …what a waste…DeRosa was a much better player to have
Yeah, well, that one pitch was worth it.
All I know is passive Phil is gone. He’s not afraid to let his wants be known.
Before it was whatever you say.
Now, he’s mad when he gets pulled (on his way to a CG shutout). He makes it clear (in a respectful way) that he wasn’t going down without a fight.
So of course, he’s okay with being a reliever. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have fought to stay in the bigs.
I’m not impressed with Pena’s bat. He rpojects to be a pretty bad hitter.
I don’t think he’s the answer when, Mo forbid, Jeter goes.
rivera doing what
“Yeah, well, that one pitch was worth it.”
Agreed 1000X over.
Rebecca, I do see your point, however The Rockies did catch fire under Jim Tracey and went on a historical type run ( 23-4 )….The fact is they are not more than a .500 ballclub plus they’re are several teams in the Wild Cerd hunt who are better than Colorado….Their fade is starting now in Los Angeles…..
I think the Yanks can win with what they’ve got. They have plenty of arms on the farm that can help with the bullpen, if Wang falls off again, they have Hughes, they have three catchers and I like them all. A healthy Nady would have been good but I still think the outfielders are fine. Matsui off the bench or DHing is great.
If the Yanks make a trade that helps, great. But I’m not looking to make significant trades if I’m Cashman. The Hinske trade seems harmless. If it doesn’t work, then you send him packing and bring up somebody else.
Jerkface-
The fine print over at RLYB says those 9 runs over Ransom are based on Hinske getting 200 PA’s. I can’t see Hinske getting anywhere near that many PA’s, so I don’t think the Yanks are going to get that much pop out of the deal.
SJ44-
I’d like to see Highes get 120 innings, but when was the last time a true reliever got that many? I haven’t checked but I suspect you have to go back to the 80′s.
“Hinske …what a waste…DeRosa was a much better player to have”
Hey, Joe San Francisco ? Where have you been.:lol:
Pat M.-I think they’ll be in it and may win the wild card. People said the same in 07′.
Phil Hughes is the sixth starter on this team. Realize the following:
1. You don’t send your 6th best pitcher (Not named Mo)on the staff to the minors.
2. If another starter goes down, Phil ramps up his innings and is inserted back in the rotation.
Him risking injury if he is in the rotation next year is debatable.
Pat M: Guess we’ll have to wait and see…
“Hinske …what a waste…DeRosa was a much better player to have”
Hinske cost the Yanks nothing. DeRosa’s gone. The Yanks didn’t need him at that cost. DeRosa somehow became a legend.
Mo is throwing out the first pitch.
SJ- again, who starts for the yankees in 2 weeks if one of our starters has an injury? Even without looking past this year- to me this is a bad move for this year. Is a 3rd guy out of the pen more important thatn your 6th starter? Some say yes, I say no-
If they want to send Aceves down so he can be used in a pinch to spot start, that is fine- but why is the plan tossed out the window at this point- to refresh your memory- the plan at the begining of the year was-
CC, Wang, AJ, Pettitte, Joba with a pen of Mo, Bruney, Marte with Veras, Coke etc etc in the pen-
Our SP insurance was Hughes, Kennedy and Aceves- do we really want to use Hughes and Aceves in the pen and cross our fingers re: the health of our starting staff?
Trevor
June 30th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
It wasn’t too long ago Francesa was tired of watching Pena and was ready to get rid out him (April). Now he wants him to replace Jeter? SMH
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LOL I remember that I think Pena didn’t get the runner in from third and Francesa said he was done seeing him get him out of the lineup.
Yankee OF (defense) could be one of the worst in the majors, it seems a upgrade there would be a nice idea…
When do you guys think it will be too late to stretch out Phil Hughes again? I feel like there’s a tipping point, but don’t know when that is.
Wave,
Mariano in ’96. That should be the way they use Hughes. IIRC, Mariano threw close to 130 innings, before the post-season, in 1996.
I believe Phil is at 65 innings now.
There are 86 games remaining in the season. Let’s say he pitches in 35 of the remaining games.
Is it impossible for him to throw another 45 innings the rest of the way? If he does, he’s at 110 for the season.
That’s prior to any possible post-season work.
If it works out that way, he can pitch 140-150 innings as a starter next year.
In other words, his work in the pen won’t hurt him as a starter if his workload plays out like I outlined above.
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”
June 30th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
“Rivera throwing out tonight’s first pitch.”
He’s starting tonight
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Rivera may be the first pitcher to ever throw the first pitch and last pitch of a game and not get credit for a complete game.
DeRosa was and is a much better player, and now the Yankees are worried about cost?
I love the veiled critique of Girardi’s comments about Hughes. The guy has nothing left to learn down in the minors. I hope they don’t screw him up, but he’s solid right now and he’s gaining confidence in his stuff. Thats what he needs…confidence that he can get out major leaguers in tight situations.
What a great problem to have. Joba and Phil both interchangeable in the rotation and bullpen.
But smart fans (imo) will move towards developing them both as starters. And the sooner, the better.
Phil’s already lost almost two years of development to freak injuries. I would prefer that he get back on track. And soon.
But Cash said it himself. They’re in win-now mode.
But if Bruney reclaims that 8th inning slot, Phil needs to transition back to starting.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
June 30th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Bodhi-In the previous thread you asked what my username means. It refers to Yankees vs. Red Sox, where all but 2 games have not been played in OUR house (the Stadium). Originally there was no AGAIN until some knucklehead came in calling himself “They already beat us in OUR house”.
Not really sinister or exciting, but there you go.
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Lol. We always knock them around in the second half, you’ll make good on your promise
Once again, today is a bad day to be terrified of thunderstorms…
If you need a spot starter, you can go to AAA and find one for a game.
If a starter goes down for a longer period, Hughes will go back into the rotation.
In the meantime, you have a kid who has become a beast in the bullpen, and is now a weapon out there they didn’t have all season.
It ain’t that complicated folks.
“DeRosa was and is a much better player, and now the Yankees are worried about cost?”
when it’s players and not money, yes.
sweet thanks for the info on mo
“I’m not impressed with Pena’s bat. He rpojects to be a pretty bad hitter.
I don’t think he’s the answer when, Mo forbid, Jeter goes.”
His bat hasn’t been awful, not great, but not awful. Him & Cervelli are around the same era. Like someone else said, there defense is what has made them stand out. Excellent defenders
Thanks for bringing up Aaron Boone guys!! By far that night is my favorite in all of college (i went to school in Boston and that was my freshman year
(the Giants beating the Pats last year comes in at a close second!).
Yay for the Yankees having Mo throw out the first pitch. That is awesome!! Unfortunately i’m not going to be home to see it, but i’m sure there will be a replay.
This is the bench I want to see in the playoffs:
Eric Hinske-3b/of/ph
Brett Gardner-of/pr
Francisco Cervelli-c
Ramiro Pena-inf/pr
I really like the combination of speed and versatility on the bench. Hinske adds pop and veteran experience.
The yankees have a number of talented young arms that will be making their way up to the majors.
One of the things that Joba and Phil’s integration with the major league team through the bull pen is doing is giving the yankees a model for how to bridge that final step between the minors and majors. The yankees are always going to be (hopefully) in a win now mode. Given that, it’s going to be a lot to ask of any pitcher to just step into the rotation (as last year’s experiment showed).
Joba could have done it, IMO. But his time in the pen in 2007 only helped him. Hughes could have done it as well were it not for the rib injury. But on the whole having these arms pass through the pen only makes it easier on them because the bull pen is a more controlled environment. It lets them isolate the issue of facing big league hitters from needing to mix pitches and going through a line up multiple times.
Bringing young arms up through the pen may be the most practical way of balancing development and the need to win.
Hughes really turned it around after that Baltimore game and was a different pitcher afterwards – kept gaining momentum. But this time in the pen is clearly helping.
“Rivera may be the first pitcher to ever throw the first pitch and last pitch of a game and not get credit for a complete game.”
This is awesome.
DeRosa was and is a much better player, and now the Yankees are worried about cost?
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It wasn’t the money that prevented the Yankees from getting DeRosa…it was the fact that the Indians wanted a quality reliever and the Yankees didn’t have one to give (the Yankees are actually in the market to OBTAIN a quality reliever).
Cleve wanted to get rid of him,didn’t get much in return
I’d like to see a complete game shutout from Joba tonight. His velocity up on all of his pitches starting at around 94 and maxing at 98-99.
I don’t understand why the Mets didn’t pick up Hinske.
Pete, I’m not sure “bad weather” quite covers it…
Mark DeRosa cost the Cardinals their version of Mark Melancon in Chris Perez and another player, who is supposed to be another good prospect.
Would you trade Mark Melancon and another good prospect (like Pena or Nunez for example, since the Cardinals are looking for a young SS) for Mark DeRosa and pay him 2 million dollars (his remaining salary for the rest of the year) to be the 24th or 25th man on the roster?
That would be a foolish trade to make and I’m a DeRosa fan.
SJ44-
Phil has 46.2 innings through today. I think it’s going to be real hard for him to get to 100 IP unless he moves back into the starting rotation at some point.
That said, I’m fine with Hughes in the pen, in fact I like it, as long as the Yanks use him when it counts.
Either way, I think he ought to be able to pitch 150 innings next year.
It’s only about an hour storm.. it just rolled by me
Even with Hughes in the bullpen and Joba likely headed there if they reach the playoffs, I still say Cashman has one magic bullet left in his chamber. He will solidify the bench by sending Pena and then Cervelli down to AAA to get more AB’s before they reach postseason play. He added Hinske. Now he will go for the kill and bring over an animal like Heath Bell for the pen.
I think we are looking at a delay to at least 8pm and probably closer to 9pm. Perhaps Hinske could make it?
Without Johnny Damon’s bold leadership, you have to wonder if Master Phillip would’ve even stuck in Scranton or if they would’ve sent him lower to get some mental toughness.
Thanks again, Johnny!
this storm is going to pass in 45 min. there will be baseball tonight in the bronx.
And the rain just started. It’s like a solar eclipse in NY right now.
Hughes is doing great in the pen.
He’s getting his innings in. He’s facing MLB hitters and learning about them. He’s gaining confidence.
It’s all good for 2010.
this game might get delayed 2+ Hours
“I don’t understand why the Mets didn’t pick up Hinske.”
It’s very strange. It seems like Omar is trying to decide, yet again, on how to get some kind of major acquisition.
But that team isn’t close to being whole. One guy – whether it’s a dunn or whoever – isn’t going to fix that situation.
The mets really focus too much on making a big move while ignoring adding usable pieces.
Hinske has a league average bat. That’s not great. But right now there are only 2-3 players in that line up that are league average.
C-I heard it’ll roll through quickly.
“I’d like to see a complete game shutout from Joba tonight. His velocity up on all of his pitches starting at around 94 and maxing at 98-99.”
Oh brother
“Phil has 46.2 innings through today. I think it’s going to be real hard for him to get to 100 IP unless he moves back into the starting rotation at some point.”
He’s going to wind up back in the rotation either picking up some of Joba’s starts when he reaches his limit or some of Andy’s starts due to injury/ ineffectiveness.
Wave,
Hughes has got about 20 innings in Scranton.
steve D
June 30th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Robbie CANNOT hit high in the order
Bat him 9th and he will hit .400…
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Actually, with an ailing left wrist, he won’t hit .400 anywhere.
Hey PA – why not probe a little deeper about that wrist? The guy tells you it’s “fine” and you don’t pursue further? He’s been icing it for weeks and can’t get any lift on anything pulled.
Furthermore, if it’s still troubling him, they you do need to ask why he’s batting 5th.
I have no problem with him batting 5th if he’s healthy, because it’s the long range payoff Girardi is banking on. But if he’s handicapped to the point of being a guaranteed DP, they the question needs to be asked.
Maybe Hinske can come by train?
The Taking of Hinske, 123!
CB,
Great thoughts.
Your talented players need to be starters. Beyond your closer and setup man, the rest need to be servicable.
The better the rest are, the better the pen. Parking high ceiling talent there as they transition is a good idea. Kind of an audition, too.
Right now, we have at least 4 former starters in the bullpen. Haha. And 3 of them can give you multiple, quality innings.
Last time I asked for innings, he gave them to me. So why not?
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”-Actually that would be kind of cool.
Hughes has got about 20 innings in Scranton.
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Hughes could also play winter ball again this year to pick up another 25-30 innings…if he needs to.
THEN the question. Don’t know why the Y key has taken possession of me.
SJ44 June 30th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Mark DeRosa cost the Cardinals their version of Mark Melancon in Chris Perez and another player, who is supposed to be another good prospect.
Would you trade Mark Melancon and another good prospect (like Pena or Nunez for example, since the Cardinals are looking for a young SS) for Mark DeRosa and pay him 2 million dollars (his remaining salary for the rest of the year) to be the 24th or 25th man on the roster?
That would be a foolish trade to make and I’m a DeRosa fan.
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Thank you. The DeRosa stuff was getting out of control.
The Met’s could have used Hinske at 1st.
They are kind of screwed.
Wave,
I was counting his Scranton innings in my total. I believe that get him to 65 innings.
If so, he will be able to go over 100 innings this year used the way he should be used in the pen the rest of the way.
Well, armegeddon just started in Yonkers. Complete with thunderous crashes, bolts of lightning, car alarms, and terrential downpours. Just waiting for the cats and dogs.
Nick in SF
June 30th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Without Johnny Damon’s bold leadership, you have to wonder if Master Phillip would’ve even stuck in Scranton or if they would’ve sent him lower to get some mental toughness.
Thanks again, Johnny!
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Bronx jeers-
Do those minor league innings count or not? Some descriptions of the model seem to indicate they do, and some indicate they do not. Inquiring minds want to know.
That said, I think people can make too much of this innings limit thing. Does it really matter if Hughes pitches 100 innings or 125 innings this year? Does it really matter if you kick up his workload by 45 innings instead of 30?
If Cano continues to see very few pitches batting fifth he simply won’t be productive, it’s very simple. He was tearing the cover off the ball to start the year because he was being patient and going the other way. He is back to hacking away early in the count. The only thing I will say is he is still trying to go the other way which is good. But why swing at balls and try to hit whatever they are throwing rather than waiting on a pitch you want? It simply doesn’t make sense. It also makes no sense therefore for Tex and Swisher and others to work counts to run a guys pitch count up for you to swing away a pitch number one.
lol, Nick.
I think Damon’s frustration was more directed at all the young guys giving it up. Veras and Edwar were giving away games at the same time.
But I still find it funny that people here (just a couple) that the turnaround was a direct result of Damon’s comments.
Even though Girardi was telling him the same thing. Even though the defense cleaned itself up.
CB – I’ve never quite understood what it is the Mets are trying to accomplish. It’s almost like, unless it’s Pedro, Beltran, Delgado, Santana type of acquisition, they’re not too interested. Even the trade which netted them Schneider and Church, who have been useful players for them, IMO, seems almost to have been more to rid themselves of Milledge than to remedy problems with their own team.
I know the Mets don’t have the best minor league system, but I can’t believe they don’t have players equivalent to what the Yankees gave up to make that deal.
Then again, I remember seeing Cash at a ST game, in 2008, spending a lot of time chatting up the Pittsburgh braintrust. Maybe he made a personal imprint that makes Pitt think of him more favorably.
Nah, that’s impossible. Cash never does anything right.
Theo Epstein will be told to hold the line with spending in Boston.
John Henry recently married a woman 30 years younger than himself with expensive taste.
http://www.boston.com/sports/b....._outfield/
SJ44-
Yeah, I realized you must have done that after I pressed the “submit” button.
This is funny
“Jack Wilson is unhappy with the deal that sent Nyjer Morgan and Sean Burnett to Washington, according to Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Wilson argues that the majority of the Pirates’ recent moves haven’t worked out and says many current Pirates won’t be around long enough to enjoy any positives from Neal Huntington’s moves.”
Aren’t they playing better eversince those moves.
Do you think the Sox will trade for Freddy Sanchez? He’s in his walk year. I wonder what the Pirates players and fans would have to say about that.
I imagine the innings total is a target more than anything. He is letting lose out of the pen. My concern is that at some point he will be relied on too heavily and they will run the risk of injury. I mean how did we go from babying Joba’s arm last year between reliever and starter, but Hughes is just switching up routines at will. The sooner they make a decision on his role the better. Someone mentioned Hughes going back to starting to fill in for Joba. I can’t see that unless it’s a permanent move, Mitre has pitched well in the minors so have a few others, if they need to burn some games at the end if they have a playoff spot in hand, it will be from the minors. You have to wonder if an injury takes place whether Hughes or Mitre get the call.
He’s going to wind up back in the rotation either picking up some of Joba’s starts when he reaches his limit or some of Andy’s starts due to injury/ ineffectiveness.
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I’m sure that was the thinking when they made this move of Phil to BP.
The Yankees are smarter than generally given credit for.
NY Rangers traded Scott Gomez (as a Devils fan, my Schadenfreude is overwhelming)
And
Feinsand via Twitter: Yankees promoted LHP Jeremy Bleich – their 2008 supplemental 1st rounder – from A-ball to Double-A Trenton. He was 6-4, 3.40 with Tampa.
Rebecca, All I’m suggesting is don’t close the door on Street being moved, and the Yanks being in the front of the line to get him….
Feinsand is so behind.
Pavel Valentenko has potential. Still not a radar deal for Sather.
The ocean got incredibly rough this afternoon. There’s bad weather coming.
How is tomorrow night looking? I don’t want rain at my NYS debut!!!
The Rockies are in the wild card race and they need their closer. He’s young and he’s cheap. I don’t see them dealing him at all. They have a surplus of bats they can deal to get pitching help and young prospects.
I think the Yankees very well could land Street, but it will take giving up something they might not want to is the problem. So they better be sure he will be here for a long time.
re: Mets not getting Hinske. It could be that PIT wouldn’t do a trade within their own division.
The process Hughes is going through is why the whole notion of sending him back down to AAA was wrong-headed.
Hughes is learning how to get major league hitters out. He is gaining confidence in his ability to get major league hitters out. It’s a process almost all major league pitchers have to go through, one which Hughes has to go through sooner or later, and he wouldn’t have accomplished it down in Scranton.
All kidding aside, I don’t (and don’t think any other serious person is) credit Damon alone or mostly for Phil’s improved performance. I think Johnny was just giving voice to a feeling lots of the players had and it helps to get that message from teammates and not just management.
I do not think the message was directed towards Edwar or Veras. Phil is actually very talented.
“I think the Yankees very well could land Street, but it will take giving up something they might not want to is the problem. So they better be sure he will be here for a long time.”
You read the post before yours right ?
# Laura June 30th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Pits in the NL Central
“It’s almost like, unless it’s Pedro, Beltran, Delgado, Santana type of acquisition, they’re not too interested.”
I think that’s correct. This off season they spent a lot of time acquiring KRod and Putz. The conclusion people drew was that their bull pen problems were fixed because they had the all important Closer and set up man.
But that’s not how bull pens work. You have to have depth. It has to be 7 guys. Because relievers are volatile and get hurt. Billy Wagner is going to blow out his elbow. Putz is going to miss three months with surgery.
Omar just never saw the limitations to this. I think he came in with a set of assumptions of what needed to succeed in NY and those haven’t been true.
Very confusing.
“Vote for Tex people. He needs to pass the dude who looks like he hangs out in leather bars.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/.....t_reg.html”
this deserved a bump, from whoever posted.
nom@@s said Kevin Youkoulis looks like a g@y jack-in-the-box. I don’t disagree
Laura-Pittsburgh isn’t in the Mets’ division. Do you mean league?
“How is tomorrow night looking? I don’t want rain at my NYS debut!!!”
Erica-
Almost everyone has had rain at their Yankee Stadium debut this year. I know I did, and it seems like it rains every time I go (I’m going tomorrow night, too).
So pack a positive attitude and your poncho!
LOL Diet Coke was talking up Morgan when he’s not even as good as Gardner.
Can we steel Zach Duke from Pitt. ?
*steal*
Heath Bell is far more likely than Huston Street. He’s 32 and the Padres are starving for young pitching talent – something the Yankees have from top to bottom in the minors. The fact that they tried to deal Peavy earlier to the White Sox illustrates their eagerness to rebuild with a whole new collection of prospects. Pitching is a good place to start.
NSF – Funnier without the explanation
The Gomez trade is to clear up cap space for Heatley.
“The Rockies are in the wild card race and they need their closer. He’s young and he’s cheap. I don’t see them dealing him at all. They have a surplus of bats they can deal to get pitching help and young prospects”
fine by me. I like our prospects, and i believe in them.
I haven’t checked Kontos performance lately. Although, i always wonder how he might do in a “Joba-like” call-up
Cashman,
Your man-love for me grows stronger every day.
BloggingBombers — Breaking news: Brian Bruney has shaved his mustache.
Trevor,
That’s what it looks like. The hot rumor is, Heatley to the Rangers if they traded either Redden, Gomez or Drury, to gain cap space.
“Heath Bell is far more likely than Huston Street. He’s 32 and the Padres are starving for young pitching talent – something the Yankees have from top to bottom in the minors. The fact that they tried to deal Peavy earlier to the White Sox illustrates their eagerness to rebuild with a whole new collection of prospects. Pitching is a good place to start.”
Ok I’m gonna walk out and laugh then return and pretend I never saw this post.
Brandon you are a dipstick
The joke and the explanation are seperate and unequal entities. Better still:
Phil Hughes was a mess
a brave man spoke for us all
thanks, Johnny Damon!
Bruney shaved the stash–
Maybe now his command will magically return!
WYH-
You are going too? Where are your seats?
I don’t own a poncho. I do have a rainjacket with butterflies on it. Everyone tells me I look like a 5 year old when I wear it. Promise if I wear it, I will stand out. But I will probably go with a more traditional hoodie.
Verducci himself states that he considers all innings (minor, major, postseason) when evaluating.
Rishi
June 30th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
BloggingBombers — Breaking news: Brian Bruney has shaved his mustache.
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I find this more exciting than the trade
Wow Scotty Gomez gone.
Those Devils just never thrive across the river.
Well that and Sather seems to be following the standard MSG protocol for building a team.
Wave,
I have no clue to what “model” you are referring to. Sorry.
As for innings limits and the “only add 25 innings a year” or whatever it is logic. I don’t fully subscribe to that either.
Hughes and Joba are big boys. Literally, they are quite large!
Joba’s at 75 right now . he threw 100 last year. He’ll probably reach 150 barring injury.
Next year he’ll go full bore for and Hughes will be in his role.
“The joke and the explanation are seperate and unequal entities.”
Nick I am sure you know
There is a rat
In separate.
Listening to that caller on Francessa….
why would they trade away David Wright?
“Brandon you are a dipstick”
Heath the next day you pitch well in NYC will be your first.
Check my WHIP. It’s damn sexy.
I spelled that word wrong
but the correction was flawed
improper haiku
I think Joba and Hughes will reverse roles around Aug. to straighten out the innings limit. It makes since to me. Also that doesn’t mean Joba won’t be a starting pitcher next year.
Improper haikus get you invitations under the O’Neill banner on this blog. LOL
“Check my WHIP. It’s damn sexy.”
Dude you sucked in NY, you know that.
the weather will be just clouds, no rain, im in maryland and it rolled through with no rain.
Serves me right for correcting haiku-man.
Heath, I’m talking Armando Benitez or Arthur Rhodes vs Yankees sucked in NY.
Rick Ankiel had the best mustache
“Wow Scotty Gomez gone.
Those Devils just never thrive across the river.
Well that and Sather seems to be following the standard MSG protocol for building a team.”
I love being a Devils fan. We out-draft everyone. And we just resigned Oduya who’s one of the best young defensemen in the league.
They’re like the antithesis of the Yankees, but they still win. And it makes them that much more fun.
I know its really sad that he died and all- but is anyone else really sick of hearing about Michael Jackson?
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”
June 30th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Heath, I’m talking Armando Benitez or Arthur Rhodes vs Yankees sucked in NY.
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Armando Benitez also sucked in the 15 days he lasted as a Yankee
Erica – newly OPPC June 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I know its really sad that he died and all- but is anyone else really sick of hearing about Michael Jackson?
I don’t watch tv :/
Yea, the guy made some influential music, but give me a break….where is the Billy Mays coverage?
The Devils are shaping up to be good again next year.
It still makes me mad how that Carolina NJ series was arguably the best of all time but nobody cares because of the small market.
Erica-
I’m in the terrace section behind first base. Gets pretty wet on rainy days, unfortunately, as does the upper deck concourse. Where are you?
What is that Yes Bonus Cam about? Do you have to pay for it or something? Just wondering.
Joe(Living in Texas)-Farrah Fawcett might as well be alive for all the coverage her death is getting.
Phil is a full-fledged reliever? Ugh – so much for being stretched out. Plus, can I trust Joe not to overuse this kid? He’s most certainly NOT a reliever – he hasn’t been trained as such. How do the Yankees know that Phil will have the rubber arm of a reliever? Sigh
Wave Your Hat
June 30th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Erica-
I’m in the terrace section behind first base. Gets pretty wet on rainy days, unfortunately, as does the upper deck concourse. Where are you?
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Up, up, up, up, up behind home plate. I believe the exact term is Grandstand section 420B
This is a sweet moustache:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,165231
Betsy-They had no idea Joba would have the rubber arm of a reliever.
A good starter almost always makes a good reliever. There are very, very few cases this isn’t true. We need this kid in the bullpen.
Erica – newly OPPC
June 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I know its really sad that he died and all- but is anyone else really sick of hearing about Michael Jackson?
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I was sick of him and his entire family 40 years ago.
“I don’t watch tv”
MJ is all over the internet as well. In fact, I read an enlightening article on Yahoo! earlier today about how Jackson coverage is slowing down. Now grasp that for a second…
Yahoo wrote an article about MJ about how the MJ coverage was slowing down. Unbelievable
Erica-
I haven’t sat there but friends have told me the grandstand seats behind the plate are pretty good, though high of course.
Have fun!
Erica-That is hilarious.
Betsy
June 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Phil is a full-fledged reliever? Ugh – so much for being stretched out. Plus, can I trust Joe not to overuse this kid? He’s most certainly NOT a reliever – he hasn’t been trained as such. How do the Yankees know that Phil will have the rubber arm of a reliever? Sigh
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One of Girardi biggest strengths is he doesn’t overuse and burn pitchers out in the bullpen like Torre did. Hughes will be fine.
“It still makes me mad how that Carolina NJ series was arguably the best of all time but nobody cares because of the small market.”
It was a killer series, but hot dang, I was PISSED at the end. Only reaon I didn’t flip out is because Jose Molina had a grand slam, and seriously, how often do you see that?
• Nick Swisher was in the hospital for a few hours today with a left ear infection but says he’s OK.
yeesh – does that have any relation to the “yankee flu”
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
June 30th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Joe(Living in Texas)-Farrah Fawcett might as well be alive for all the coverage her death is getting
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It was her mistake really. You aren’t supposed to die the same day as someone more famous.
But the greatest difference is that her death wasn’t a shock like his. Ryan O’Neal was getting in front of every camera he could and updating the country on her condition every 10 minutes
I’m sorry, guys, but hockey just doesn’t do it for me. I’ve gone to a few games, when tix were there for the taking, with friends as a social thing, but it just doesn’t do it. Sorry.
As far as Heath Bell – is he really 32? If so, then, I could see SD dealing him for younger arms. And I’ve read where Cash is friends with Kevin Towers. (There’s those darn personal relations again!) If Billy Eppler and staff Bell’s stuff would translate to AL East, then a deal might be done. That Nova kid in AAA did quite well yesterday.
Betsy,
Read what Phil is saying in Pete’s notes. Really, really read it closely because what Phil is saying is 100% correct.
He will be a starter next year.
This year, he’s making the Yankees and himself better working out of the pen right now.
Its the best of both worlds.
All this, “I don’t trust Girardi” is unfounded worry for nothing.
Has Girardi abused Joba? No. He’s not going to abuse Phil either.
GreenBeret7,
“I was sick of him and his entire family 40 years ago.”
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Your really a jerk. The guy has got kids that are suffering greatly from the loss of their dad. Have some respect.
is gardner sick? why did espn1050 specifically say he is not in the lineup tonight?
thanks………….
I missed Cashman – did he say anything interesting? I had to leave just as he was talking about Phil…..thanks!
Yea I agree about Farrah,
I might be going on a touchy subject here, but didnt MJ allegedly molest 2 boys? I know he was acquitted of both charges, but come on, who lies about that? Lucky he had so many fans.
Wave Your Hat
June 30th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Erica-
I haven’t sat there but friends have told me the grandstand seats behind the plate are pretty good, though high of course.
Have fun!
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Thanks!! You too!!!
I am not very picky about where I sit though. Two seasons ago, I got stuck in Row X of the Grandstands on a 100+ degree night. I didn’t mind row X so much, but I was sitting right next to a vent and every 10 minutes I would get a giant gust of hot air that smelled like onion rings.
“They’re like the antithesis of the Yankees, but they still win. And it makes them that much more fun.”
I’ll admit it’s a great organization. I’ve said before that Lamoriello could be the best executive in pro sports.
But my god is that some boring hockey.
Hockey in general got sort of boring for me with all the new rules but the Devils were way ahead of the curve.
Rachel-Yeah, I was mad but calmed down when Hughes dominated Detroit.
So dfa’d Berroa and brought in another on hit wonder rookie of the year. I hope he produces like he did with boston. Can anyone see us going after a STARTING outfielder before trade deadline?
rebecca not to burst your bublle but the devils are old, really old. look at there roster…….
the rangers have a lot of good young players just no elite scorers but staal, cally, dubinsky, grachev, and others can play..
the gomez trade was a good trade and now they trade roszival and others for heatley.. they are better then yesterday that being the rangers……..
Girardi said that the team will closely monitor A-Rod over the next couple weeks.
“We know that in this next stretch of 13 games we’re going to have to rest him at some point,” the manager said. “I’d like to give him a day off in Minnesota for sure. And DH him this week. Maybe even two days this week. We will watch just carefully how he’s doing to decide if we need to give him a full day or just a DH day.”
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....manag.html
“Your really a jerk. The guy has got kids that are suffering greatly from the loss of their dad. Have some respect.”
Is it too soon for a neverland ranch joke?
stuart: I know the Devils are old, this isn’t a new issue.
However, there are a couple young guys, and the team is known to draft well, so I’m not that worried.
Every year it’s: “Is this the year the Devils make the playoffs?”
And last year, when Brodeur went down, everyone said, well, that’s that.
And then we ended up with the 3 seed in the conference.
I am not realy that worried.
“Is it too soon for a neverland ranch joke?”
Maybe- but start saving your pennies cause apparently they are going to open it up for tours like the new Graceland…
““They’re like the antithesis of the Yankees, but they still win. And it makes them that much more fun.”
I’ll admit it’s a great organization. I’ve said before that Lamoriello could be the best executive in pro sports.
But my god is that some boring hockey.
Hockey in general got sort of boring for me with all the new rules but the Devils were way ahead of the curve.”
Pity about Sutter leaving–he did a lot to open up the Devils’ offensive game, and have them not play the trap game.
Alas, Lou is rumoured to be looking at Jacques Lemaire….
SJ, I agree with what you have planned out for Hughes. However, in this day and age its hard to do what Mo did in 96. Even then, he only pitched 107 innings. I don’t know what his break down was down the stretch but it equates to 18 innings a month.
There’s three months left which will give him around 54 innings out of the pen if he is not overused. Tack that onto his 66 and he is around 120. 150 should be enough for a 5th starter spot next year.
True story.
My grandparents were good friends with Michael Jackson’s grandparents. Lived down the street from each other for years.
I was very young (maybe 4-5 years old) but I remember being in that house many times. Lots of photos displayed of the famous kids, but as everyone knows, this was not a tight family.
Despite all that and my tiny small connection to the Jackson Family – I still don’t care about his passing.
He hadn’t been relevant for decades and I didn’t like his music when he was on top of the world.
“Tony Romo (and an entourage of dozens) watched batting practice. To his credit, he was with a sick child.”
Would Jessica be with him?
NYYanksFan
June 30th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Girardi said that the team will closely monitor A-Rod over the next couple weeks.
“We know that in this next stretch of 13 games we’re going to have to rest him at some point,” the manager said. “I’d like to give him a day off in Minnesota for sure. And DH him this week. Maybe even two days this week. We will watch just carefully how he’s doing to decide if we need to give him a full day or just a DH day.”
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I am becoming a jaded non-believer in anything Girardi says. I don’t know if the guy just changes his mind a lot or its blatent double speak, but I can’t count how many times I quote the guy and then feel like a dummmy cause he does the opposite.
I think what Girardi really means to say is, “All the doctors and trainers say we need to give A-Rod time off. But I am going to go by what A-Rod says. So I will ask him if he can play and he will say yes because he is a professional. And really, we won’t give him any time off. But we will maybe DH him and say that that’s enough”
Has any active player ever thrown out the ceremonial first pitch in a game? Wierd. Cool, but wierd.
Interesting perspective as Yankee Stadium as a Home Run Haven:
http://sports.espn.go.com/fant.....id=4297107
They should get the game in. Maybe a 7.30, 8.00 start?
Btw- It is absolutely pouring outside my window not far from JFK airport right now
RayeRay-totowa
June 30th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
GreenBeret7,
“I was sick of him and his entire family 40 years ago.”
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Your really a jerk. The guy has got kids that are suffering greatly from the loss of their dad. Have some respect.
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So, I’m a jerk because I think their idea of musical entertainment stunk? Has nothing to do woth Jackson, though, his idea of private and personal entertainment was disgustingly perverted?
While I hated the guy, Thriller was one of the greatest albums ever made. Every one of those songs was a hit and every one was great. Maybe Sgt. Pepper was better (the Beatles) but not by a lot.
Pity about Sutter leaving–he did a lot to open up the Devils’ offensive game, and have them not play the trap game.
Alas, Lou is rumoured to be looking at Jacques Lemaire….”
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You better stock up on the No-Doz & Red Bull!
“I might be going on a touchy subject here…”
That was the allegation, yes.
Rob NY in Hawaii
June 30th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
While I hated the guy, Thriller was one of the greatest albums ever made. Every one of those songs was a hit and every one was great. Maybe Sgt. Pepper was better (the Beatles) but not by a lot.
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That’s silly. Best album ever is Rumors by Fleetwood Mac
M, good post about Phil fighting to stay in games – I love that he gets upset about being taken out. He didn’t just decided to be a competitor – this was always inside him – but I love the fire he’s showing. Despite my comments, I do think that Phil has a really great attitude (not a surprise, though) and I agree that that has enabled him, in part at least, to succeed. He’s taken on this role as a challenge and has so far risen to that challenge. Sometimes talent needs something like that to brng it out of them……
Nick,
Sorry. I wrote that wrong. I think the comment was inclusive. mostly directed at Hughes, but may also have been directed at Eddie & I think it was actually someone that came up from Scranton. There was a frustrating stretch where Hughes and the young relievers were literally giving away games.
At any rate, Damon said “the kids”. Now is he media savvy enough to say kids so that he wouldn’t hurt a singular pitcher’s feelings? Doubt it. Because if he cared about anyone’s feelings he would’ve talked the person directly. After all, Damon’s a straight up guy, right?
Turns out Eric Hinske bought out his own contract so that he could join the Yankees. When asked why, Hinske responded “I’m chasing Yogi’s ring collection.”
Pete – whatever happened to the registration you said was coming? I believe you said it towards the end of last season.
“Tony Romo (and an entourage of dozens) watched batting practice. To his credit, he was with a sick child.”
Would Jessica be with him?”
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Didn’t the Cowboys & the Yankees become partners or something? I thought I read that awhile back?
Don’t forget to all-star vote!!! Yankee pride cannot allow Youkilis to beat Teixiera
Bat out of Hell by Meatloaf is a great album.
God I hate the cowboys.
Cowboys? Booooooooooooo.
There is a reason why The Beatles 220 song catalog is worth over 1 billion dollars…..
how is Ransom superior to Pena in any facet of the game?
Transcript of Teixeira’s chat:
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
With so many things going well for the Yankees — as Pete describes in this post — including a sweep of their cross town rivals, their five-game winning streak, Sabbathia and Burnett and the Yankee bullpen rounding out (as I expected and said) into great second half form, Mo dominant as ever, Yankee pitchers pitching great with Posada behind the plate, and Yankee youth contributing like crazy — I think now is as good a time as ever to express a contrary opinion and (try to) jump off the Yankee bandwagon:
I find this team painful to root for and think that because they’re so painful to root for, I may finally be able to give up my Yankee addiction — at least for now.
They continue to beat up on lousy teams and (with the somewhat surprising exception of recently sweeping the Mets) the more important the situation, the smaller they play. Even their recent excellent play seems to only have been in response to Cashman going down and telling them that if they don’t shape up they’ll be shipped out — because he believes he’s done his work. I can’t root for a team that plays like a bully against weak teams and weak middle relievers, that only plays hard when they’re scolded and berated, and consistently comes up small in big situations. I’d rather pull for a team that loses more, but does intelligent things and often elevates their play in big games — the way the Yankees of 1996-2000 did.
I can’t stand it anymore pulling for a team that is like a neighborhood bully — beating up on lousy teams and weak middle relief and never coming up big against good teams, etc. And it’s painful to watch our captain and what I think is his awful leadership. Just the fact that he laughs when our weaker batters or our pitchers come up big — expressing surprise that they would come through and belittlling them instead of raising his fist like he does when he does something — alone leaves me cold. Then, the example he sets with his work ethic — whereby he not only doesn’t spend hours in the batting cage like Manny, or have any kind of serious workout program (with the exception of this offseason as his contract nears its expiration), but also stays out to all hours with various models — leaves me even colder. And they do other things that I won’t take the time to mention right now that I find very uncomfortable to watch in a team I’m rooting for.
In any case, I’ll restate my prediction that despite the almost complete unpredictability of post season series, I definitely believe that the Yankees have won their last World Series with Posada as catcher, and that they’ve probably won their last World Series with Jeter at shortstop.
All of that said, I do like most of Cashman’s moves. They’ve become steady if uninspired. And at least, with his steady hand, and ownership perhaps understanding how badly they blundered with A-Rod (among other contracts) I think the team is likely to become better and better — especially as some of their excellent prospects either join the big team or get traded for players and pitchers who will make the team better. And it’s got to be the greatest soap opera in the world.
But with the team playing, as I’ve said before, like a dim witted Goliath, it’s now become easier to root against them than for them — despite my familiarity and fondness for more than few of their players. So that’s what I’m going to try to do. By the way, I’ve been trying (and failing) to do that for years. So perhaps I’ll be unsuccessful again. But that’s what I’m going to be trying to do. Again, I just find rooting for them too painful.
As I said, I wanted to do this when the sky was clear and things looked as great as possible — as they do now — not when things were going badly. That’s why I’m doing it now. I hope this team won’t break your hearts and torture you the next few years the way they’ve tortured me and broken mine since 2001, but I expect they will. Good luck to you guys. For your sake, as I’ve said before, I hope I’m wrong on all counts.
If I was going to a desert island and can only bring 5 albums. The Beatles “Revolver” and/or “Let it Be” would be coming with me. But so would Fleetwood Mac’s “Rumours”
Jay-You are sseriously a miserable fan. I’m having a blast rooting for this team. They are fun to watch.
“Pity about Sutter leaving–he did a lot to open up the Devils’ offensive game, and have them not play the trap game.
Alas, Lou is rumoured to be looking at Jacques Lemaire….”
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You better stock up on the No-Doz & Red Bull!”
As long as Marty’s in goal, I’m good.
YankeesWFAN: Better bullpen than Boston–ERA after 7th inning: SEA 2.71, BOS 3.04.
1 minute ago from web
YankeesWFAN: Thisclose to Joe D: Ichiro Suzuki has hit safely in 52 of last 55 games.
3 minutes ago from web
YankeesWFAN: Mariners come in having won 8 of last 9 series. SEA pitchers 2.80 ERA since May 20th best in Majors. Overall leads AL with 3.64 ERA.
5 minutes ago from web
YankeesWFAN: Jose Molina will begin playing rehab games Wed-Thur-Sat-Sun. If all goes as planned he can re-join team Monday.
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Man – nothing but “bad” news from this one
Aww isn’t that little boy adorable. Tony Romo is so cute
It’s baseball. It’s a game. You root for a team to win. Wy the hell would you cry about how they’re winning? Enjoy the ride.
I hope you go the Red Sox so you can infect them with your utter misery.
Seems like the Yanks are really getting out into the community alot more this year and focusing it on kids. Good to hear.
YankeesWFAN: ARod, Ransom, Cashman: Chefs for a Day Wed 12:30-1:30pm feeding 50 local kids. El Nuevo Caridad, 191st & Nicholas in Wash Heights. 10 minutes ago from web
m, I do not pretend to have any insight into Johnny Damon’s thought processes, but it seemed pretty obvious that he was talking about Hughes first and foremost. I guess when he said “the kids” we can rule out Angel Berroa.
Part of not having any insight is not knowing whether Johnny’s remarks were premedidated or just the spontaneous response to a question after a game. I do think he’s savvy enough to not want to say Hughes’ name itself even if that’s the intended recipient of the message.
As for sparing his feelings by speaking privately, we have no idea if private words had been spoken already and by whom. But there’s a time for public words and perhaps that time had been reached.
I’m sure we’ve made far too much of this topic, but I liked what Damon said at the time (and said so at the time) and I don’t see any downside to it now. And I’m including potential hurt feelings in that statement. Whether Damon truly helped or not is anyone’s guess.
YankeesWFAN: ARod, Ransom, Cashman: Chefs for a Day Wed 12:30-1:30pm feeding 50 local kids. El Nuevo Caridad, 191st & Nicholas in Wash Heights.===============
Cool stuff – I like all this “outreach” stuff – or maybe it’s nice that they are getting the word out
Pete,
Has there been any buz with MO getting 500 saves and John Wettland being the Mariners bull pen coach? Do you think they will say anything about it? I thinks is the first times he’s been back since leaving baseball..
Rishi-Jose coming back is good news.
Jay, maybe you should find another team. That reeks of spoiled fandom.
Seriously, Jeter and Mo have been playing together for 15 years. Do you really think that Jeter’s peeved because Mo laughed?
GreenBeret7
Really appalling comments about Michael Jackson; your bitter attitude is always apparent, no matter what the subject.
Jay copying dr. dave’s writing style?
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
June 30th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Rishi-Jose coming back is good news.
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True that, true that
Thanks, Nick.
I don’t pretend to have any insight to any of the players or the team.
I simply express my opinions. Dassit.
Hinske is Christ,
“how is Ransom superior to Pena in any facet of the game?”
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Peña needs to develop. Staying up in the Majors is not helping him. He needs more playing time. More at bats, & more time in the field. Its a waste to have him keep sitting on the bench. He should be playing. & sending him to Scranton is going to benefit him.
Jones-How do you make that squigglything over the n?
And what is the squiggly thing called?
Erica – newly OPPC
June 30th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
If I was going to a desert island and can only bring 5 albums. The Beatles “Revolver” and/or “Let it Be” would be coming with me. But so would Fleetwood Mac’s “Rumours”
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Jerry Lee Lewis – Greatest Hits, Fats Domino – Greatest Hits, Ferrante And Teicher – Golden Themes From The Movies, Willie Nelson – Duets, and Rachmaninoff.
You guys seriously read that?
GB7-
Bringing greatest hits is cheating!!!! You are going to a desert island. You will need to make some sacrifices
I think it’s a “tilda” (sp?) and you can get from Word. Just copy & paste.
Erica
GB7 can bring Bernie Madoff, they are the same vintage and will probably get along very well.
Sunlight in Jersey
Jay: Congrats on Blowhard Post of the Year.
What kind of reaction do you want from this? “Please don’t go! You’re desperately needed in Yankee fan world”?
And you waited for them to be on a good run before breaking the disastrous, pivotal news that a random, faceless blog poster has lost faith in the team? How very thoughtful of you.
It’s baseball. Entertainment. You want to be a fan, great. You don’t, don’t.
I’m actually now upset with myself for taking the time to respond to such a silly post.
RT @BloggingBombers: Game scheduled to start around 7:45
Goodbye Jay. Its always nice to lose an unhappy Yankee fan.
Red Sox Nation awaits you.
Damon wasn’t the only guy who felt that way about Hughes. He, and Girardi, as well as a lot of guys on the team, felt the same way. Damon and Girardi were the only one’s to say it publicly.
If you want to say it didn’t have any impact, fine by me.
It sure as heck didn’t hurt because the kid has been a beast since and I don’t believe its a coincidence.
This isn’t little league. Guys get hot about stuff. It happens.
Johnny Damon is one of the best teammates anybody can have in the game. His rep in that regard is known throughout the game.
There is an old saying, “If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen”.
Hughes showed he clearly can take it and its made him better because of it.
Erica – newly OPPC
June 30th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
GB7-
Bringing greatest hits is cheating!!!! You are going to a desert island. You will need to make some sacrifices
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Can I just sacrifice 5 trolls instead in a volcano to appease the Gods?
Hughes said he would feel differently if he were 26 and not 23. But he pointed out, quite correctly, that he has proven he can get AAA hitters out. He thinks he’s better off here learning how to get big-league hitters out in high leverage situations. “Then when the times comes, I’ll start,” he said. “If I get 100 good innings this year, I’ll be fine,” he said.
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Good attitude from Youuuuuse. Thumbs up
SJ-Seems like long ago when we were having debates about whether Hughes had the mental toughness to make it in NY.
Fair enough, m, but don’t sell yourself short; maternal insincts are often sound!
indians released luis vizcaino
he was decent for us in 2007. Not sure where he really fits in though
Seems like since Damon blasted Hughes he’s woken up his potential and has pitched with a swagger we haven’t seen before.
Does Jay need a tissue?
I know this is wrong but it made me laugh so I’ve got to share. I apologize in advance to the Mays family.
Tweet From baldvinny
“billy mays is on his way to heaven. he just needs to pay separate shipping and handling”
I remember really hating Vizcaino for some reason.
Nick,
Never mind. Someone with real insight into the clubhouse has set me straight.
The whole incident still irritates me to no end. And I still don’t think that Phil’s socio-economic background made him soft.
“pat June 30th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I know this is wrong but it made me laugh so I’ve got to share. I apologize in advance to the Mays family.
Tweet From baldvinny
“billy mays is on his way to heaven. he just needs to pay separate shipping and handling””
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I heard a worse one:
“I heard they were gonna use the Awesome Auger at his burial and Mighty Putty to hold up the tombstone”
o_O
maybe because he lost game 2 of the 07 alds by walking the bases loaded in extra innings
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
Jones-How do you make that squigglything over the n?
And what is the squiggly thing called?
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Its called a ’tilde’
(ALT+164) Hold down ALT, then press 1, 6, & 4 on the keypad on the right side of your keyboard. NOT the numbers on top below the F1 F2 F3 keys. A capital Ñ is 165.
It it doesn’t work on your computer, open a notepad or Word document and it should work there. If it doesn’t, look in the ‘insert special characters’ within Word and you can copy and paste it.
John-That might be it.
vb03
June 30th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
“pat June 30th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I know this is wrong but it made me laugh so I’ve got to share. I apologize in advance to the Mays family.
Tweet From baldvinny
“billy mays is on his way to heaven. he just needs to pay separate shipping and handling””
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I heard a worse one:
“I heard they were gonna use the Awesome Auger at his burial and Mighty Putty to hold up the tombstone”
o_O
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Shouldn’t that be in bold caps to give the impression of someone yelling at the top of their lungs?
…and then giving it up to hafner
I don’t know. In the wake of many people who reached a lot of people passing on, getting distraught over a team’s performance seems trivial.
Jones-Thanks.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN,
No prob
GreenBeret7
June 30th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Erica – newly OPPC
June 30th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
GB7-
Bringing greatest hits is cheating!!!! You are going to a desert island. You will need to make some sacrifices
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Can I just sacrifice 5 trolls instead in a volcano to appease the Gods?
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Hmm- I consulted the book of desert island ettiquette. Yes, that works
I didn’t realize what a sore subject this was! Or the extent, at least. If it really upset you to no end, I don’t think there’s anything else to say about it.
But I will say, again, that I don’t think SJ44 was saying that Phil’s background made him soft, but that a lot of players got tougher through overcoming their backgrounds — Phil would have to find his toughness somewhere else. At least that’s how I read his comments at the time and I think he comfirmed that that was the point he was making. You can disagree with the second point too, but it’s not the same as “Phil is soft because he was well off.”
ugly Youk with a HR… 2-0
“I hope this team won’t break your hearts and torture you the next few years the way they’ve tortured me and broken mine since 2001, but I expect they will.”
To quote Livia Soprano: ” Poor You ! ”
Hopefully Jay will be back with us after his testicles descend.
Nick,
The only thing I will say is that I hate coaching through the media. Does it work? Absolutely. Phil Jackson’s the master of it.
But I don’t like it when a peer does it. Even if Johnny’s a respected veteran and a hell of a teammate.
Not saying it’s wrong, I just don’t like it.
I guess it was said in frustration, so I’ll let it go.
But let’s not fool ourselves into thinking that Phil couldn’t have figured things out.
I think Jay is coming off some sort of medication.
Rising Sun awaits…
Matsui v. Suzuki…
If Nimbus allows…
Nick,
Exactly. Its amazing how reading comprehension escapes so many people here.
I said since his BACKGROUND doesn’t give him a leg up on finding toughness, he was going to have to dig deep and find it somewhere else and he did.
And Mel, since the manager himself has said the same thing PUBLICLY about Hughes’ problem of not locking down and limiting damage and lacking toughness in those situations, it wasn’t exactly a secret.
Sorry it upsets you but, sometimes the truth hurts.
Guess what? The kid handled it like he is supposed to and he is better for it.
In the end, it worked out for everybody.
Erica – newly OPPC
June 30th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
GreenBeret7
June 30th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Erica – newly OPPC
June 30th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
GB7-
Bringing greatest hits is cheating!!!! You are going to a desert island. You will need to make some sacrifices
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Can I just sacrifice 5 trolls instead in a volcano to appease the Gods?
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Hmm- I consulted the book of desert island ettiquette. Yes, that works
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Thanks, Erica. I’ll run down to Books-a-Million and pick up a copy. I have so much use for books on ettiquette.
i got a great trade for the yanks and jays
yanks get
hill -free agent after next season when they want to break bank for halladay our answer to pedroia with a slick glove would be a superstar in new york and perennial all star who is extremely clutch. as you can tell lov aaron hill.
rios -looking to trade 5yrs 50plus mill left on contract looking to unload money to keep docnext year a great defender with a cannon arm and long could put him in place he has a ton of talent still only 27.
jays get
cano- great potential but not yankee material needs a change of scenery and should play in a small market so he wont be ridiculed for his laziness which he deserves. and only 6mill per for four years.
melky – the guy has grown on me but he can go to toronto become a full time right fielder he is also cheap for them.
1 B level prospect like shelley or miranda take your pick
it makes sense both melky and cano are cheap for them hill is heading for a big pay day and bring more of the gritiness yanks are trying to get back too . rios has big time talent 5 tool can run, hit, hit for power , and defend at a high level and how athletic is an future outfield of
Rf-rios
cf-ajax
lf-brett the jet
it makes sense
What a dork! John Henry had bobbleheads made of him & new wife….http://www.page2live.com/ scroll down on page & see photo!!
That Damon comment wins the award for most overanalyzed comment of the first half. Soon to come: Most overanalyzed comment of the second half and the, if we make it, most overanalyzed comment of the postseason. Then, at the end of the year, all the overanalyzed comments are brought back so we could vote on most overanalyzed comment of the year!
Of course, technically voting is not over for most overanalyzed comment of the first half, but Damon’s comment is winning by a landslide. Voting ends the same day ASG voting ends.
SJ,
I was fine with it when Girardi said it. He’s the manager.
Anyway, I’m not upset about it anymore.
I don’t even want to go down the other road anymore. I think that we’ve already proven that different paths can be taken to athletic success. And they’re not alway paved with hardship.
anthony-Melky and Cano for Hill? No way. Terrible trade.
Maybe he would have figured it out in time. Maybe not.
We don’t know either way.
What we do know is, since he got called out publicly, he has been a beast.
If nothing else, it upped his timetable! lol
Coincidence? Perhaps but, I don’t believe in coincidences.
Some guys never figure it out. Delmon Young, Eligh Dukes, and a host of other guys never figure it out when called out by teammates for one reason or another.
Its to Phil’s credit that he did and he and Damon don’t have any issues between them.
If they don’t, I don’t know why anybody else would.
“Thanks, Erica. I’ll run down to Books-a-Million and pick up a copy. I have so much use for books on ettiquette.”
Good luck with the Etiquette part. Also, you should get some English books and learn how to spell.
Anthony: No way. Hill’s having an unprecendented season and his career numbers don’t bear this out.
RayeRay-totowa
June 30th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
“Thanks, Erica. I’ll run down to Books-a-Million and pick up a copy. I have so much use for books on ettiquette.”
Good luck with the Etiquette part. Also, you should get some English books and learn how to spell.
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Maybe you should remove that corncob from your dark recesses.
what did damon say about hughes
Master Phillip Hughes
From the slums of La Jolla
Dickens it was not.
But yet fortitude
was found from a caveman’s cries
and wordy tattoos
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._call.html
most of the regs on here are boring reads.
Yanks and Mariners…
Beat writers reverie, rain…
Thunderous patience…
I just saw on MLB Traderumors site that the Indians released Luis Vizcaino.
Not to turn this into a Mets’ site (Heaven forbid), but, if I were Omar, I would jump at him. Omar has to start making some moves.
SJ, I hadn’t read Phil’s comments when I posted my own – the kid is extremely level-headed, more than I am sometimes (good for him,lol).
“If I was going to a desert island and can only bring 5 albums. The Beatles “Revolver” and/or “Let it Be” would be coming with me. But so would Fleetwood Mac’s “Rumours””
1. ‘Blonde on Blonde’- Bob Dylan
2. ‘Vitalogy’-Pearl Jam
3. ‘The Last Waltz soundtrack’- The Band and many others
4. ‘Born to Run’ Springsteen
5. ‘Let it Be’ The Beatles
With the rain delay, Eric Hinske could arrive at the Stadium in time for the game. A short flight from Pittsburgh to Newark and a break in traffic over the GW Bridge could do it.
Bat outta Hell is getting no love?
That’s a great album.
Okay, now I’m all riled up again. Damon said what he said because he was tired of losing, at supposedly, Hughes’ expense. I don’t think he was trying to develop Hughes.
Pitching was awful at the time and Wang was off track. Hitting was great.
Did I hear any pitchers express frustrations during their streak of offensive futility? Say things like, “Guys gotta put the ball in play. Get the guy home from third with less than two outs. No, you didn’t. Because pitchers understand that you need both sides to do their part, and it doesn’t always work out. And it’s not always in sync.
All right, end of rant. Play ball. Hopefully.
Man this kid Rich Hill stinks 4-0 boston already if he was pitching against the Yankees it would be 7 shutout innings
SJ, I hope then that these guys who felt so annoyed at Hughes have had the decency to tell him now how good they feel about him (or whatever). It’s only fair…….
C June 30th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Man this kid Rich Hill stinks 4-0 boston already if he was pitching against the Yankees it would be 7 shutout innings
naw
Bad news about the rain delay Joba is not good with delays and rain.
Betsy,
Nah. This is baseball, you know where guys don’t squat to…
“DYNASTY IS DESTINY!
June 30th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Yanks and Mariners…
Beat writers reverie, rain…
Thunderous patience…”
No offense but your Headlines are stupid and annoying
“June 30th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
C June 30th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Man this kid Rich Hill stinks 4-0 boston already if he was pitching against the Yankees it would be 7 shutout innings
naw”
Lefty that doesnt throw hard yes…
Granted, it was going to be tough for Baltimore to win even a game of the Red Sox series, but the Orioles pitching is just awful.
M, I felt the same way as you about Damon’s comments – thinking about it now, it still bothers me a little. Oh well…but if they haven’t given Phil credit to his face after what he’s done, then that doesn’t say much (well it does, but in a negative way) for Damon and the others. I guess Johnny was HOFer as a rookie – guess he never had bad games.
“rconn23
June 30th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Granted, it was going to be tough for Baltimore to win even a game of the Red Sox series, but the Orioles pitching is just awful.”
Yea but somehow they always pitch well against the yankees
let’s play ball
I LOVE Phil Hughes. Cut a deal with Bruney!
He did all of us a favor. That ‘stache was uuuuug-leee.
And Bob Lorenz just said they’d be back with Red Sox highlights. Is that an oxymoron if ever you heard one?????
Yankees are playing better, starting pitching is good and finally hitting
Betsy,
Just once, once, I’d like to hear a pitcher tell the media, “Where the hell was that throw?” The outfielders have a had a few doozies.
But anyway, all for one, one for all.
And they better sweep, because they’re not going to get any help from the O’s.
C-Didn’t we sweep the last time we played them?
montero hit his 2nd homerun of the year at trenton this year (10th overall)..
bleich is making his AA debut with a scoreless inning so far
I’ll be playing with Jason Varitek in a charity mini-golf event on Thursday.
Anyone have any questions or comments to relay to him?
Boston Dave-Does he have any idea why the Sox resigned him?
Boston Dave 2.0 – the kinder gentler version
Is it true you cheated on your wife with Hazel Mae?
If Johnny Damon didn’t think Phil Hughes had the ability to be a very good pitcher he wouldn’t have said a word and just let the guy continue to fail.
Players like Damon, well liked and well respected, only get into the guy’s grills that can take it and have the ability to be more than they are showing.
That’s how it works in a major league locker room.
When Damon was young, it was George Brett that got in his grill, forcing him to take stock, and it helped make him a better player.
You do that with guys you (the veteran player) think have the goods. Obviously, Damon felt Phil had the goods because he made sure to say, “We need him to be better”.
In this instance, Damon was right and guess what? Hughes is better for it.
Conversely, Mel Hall was traded by the Yankees because he got into Bernie Williams’ grill too many times in a negative way. Since Mel was not a “practice what you preach” kind of guy (unlike Damon), Stick made sure he hit the bricks when he saw how his behavior affected Bernie.
It can work both ways. However, when a guy like Damon, who doesn’t have a nasty bone in his body (unlike Hall) says something to a young guy, he’s smart to take the advice.
Boston Dave,
So you won’t be wearing a Yankee cap?
“Boston Dave 2.0 – the kinder gentler version
Is it true you cheated on your wife with Hazel Mae?”
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Jodi Watney, not Hazel Mae. I’m sure he cheated though.
I was hanging at Tek’s house last year right when those rumors were swirling but I didn’t have the cajones to ask.
“Boston Dave,
So you won’t be wearing a Yankee cap?”
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I really should… but it’s a charity event so I’m undecided on that
I just watched Kim’s “Innerview” with Mariano. He’s so impressive as a person. There are not nearly sufficient words to describe such a person. Brought tears to my eyes. If I had a son, and he was interested in baseball, I’d tell him to watch Mariano. That’s the way a professional carries himself. We’ve been blessed. Literally.
Boston Dave,
Will your parting words be “Say hi to Heidi for me”?
I thought it pretty strange watching NESN correspondent Heidi Watney interview Varitek on NESN this weekend. I imagine it has to be pretty difficult to ask anything too probing when your sharing a bed with your subject.
Jodi Watney? Gonna have to google her or him.
“Jodi Watney, not Hazel Mae. I’m sure he cheated though.”
Heidi Watney. Jody Watney was an 80′s singer I think.
top 4
Billy Joel – The Stranger
Stevie Wonder – Songs in the Key of Life
UB40 – Labour of Love I
Lauren Hill – The Miseduaction of Lauren Hill
Janet Jackson – Design of a Decade
SJ, that makes sense……..and you’re right, why would the players bother with some guy they don’t think will stick anyway?
Whatever my feelings were on the matter, I never thought Johnny was anything other than a good guy. I don’t think he has a bad bone in his body…..
Um, thanks to Phil for allowing Brian to shave that mustache…..granted, it cost Brian a something. Phil is obviously a shrewd operator.
top 5
The Rays are on fire this month. BJ Upton just hit a homer against Richmond. That is the 39th HR that they have hit this month.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
June 30th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Bat outta Hell is getting no love?
That’s a great album
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There is a Meatloaf documentary on MSG tonight actually.
I always wanted to see Meatloaf in concert, but I would like to see the 1977 Meatloaf, not 2009 Meatloaf. So unless someone invents a time machine, I will probably be skipping the next Meatloaf tour
In the interview with Kim Jones, did Mariano call her “honey”
“Heidi Watney. Jody Watney was an 80’s singer I think.”
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yup… oops
I realized it after I typed it but figured I’d wait to see if anybody called me out. thanks!
Jody Watley
and she was/is very hot
(as is her sister)
YES better show Mo throw the first pitch.
serenity now
Go Yanks!
“The Rays are on fire this month.”
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Just got Kazmir back too.
The Rays pen is still an achilles heel for them and if they don’t address it, I’ll still take the Yanks over them any day.
“I always wanted to see Meatloaf in concert”
Saw him 4-5 years ago. He could still bring it pretty good back then.
As soon as Journey swings by, I’m gonna have to see them. Although that Philipino guy isn’t quite as good as their last singer.
Joba in the pen…
Preparing to start again…
Relief from the rain…
“Just got Kazmir back too.
The Rays pen is still an achilles heel for them and if they don’t address it, I’ll still take the Yanks over them any day.”
Who went down when Kazmir came back? Was it Sonnanstine?(however its spelled)
And to the spelling police out there, it was me who misspelled “etiquette” first. Spelling it right doesn’t make that much of a difference in my life. But I am pretty sure, pointing out someone’s errors with such crassness, is in fact, a poor example of etiquette.
Let’s hope Joba can go right after this lineup.
Prediction:
7IP 5 hits 2 walks 2ER 7K
“Who went down when Kazmir came back? Was it Sonnanstine?(however its spelled)”
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yes, it was him and good job with the spelling. I belive that’s correct.
believe*
that is just a typo, not a misspelling
Is it wrong I am a little jealous of these girls?
“Is it wrong I am a little jealous of these girls?”
nope, not at all. =)
Rich Hill looks like a batting practice pitcher.
I remember rumors of ARod to the Cubs for a package including, and built around, him.
It was just a wild rumor, but this guy’s stock has fallen far and fast.
Erica, not wrong because I am too! I am wondering why they aren’t freaking out more. I would probably faint hahaha. How mature of me!
Yay Mo
Erica NOPE.
Maria-
The blonde girl next to Damon looked like she was hyperventilating. But I am a dork, and I would probably be jumping up and down on the field.
I also would refuse to leave the field until I shook every Yankee’s hand
Lets go Yankees!
that would be cool if Mariano throws the first pitch AND the last pitch tonight.
Mo deserved that.
Not gonna lie I want to see Jr go in the Upper deck
Solo shot please
montero just hit his 2nd homerun of the night…
“Is it wrong I am a little jealous of these girls?”
Those girls are probably starstruck right now.
9/5/07 Alex homered twice in the same inning.
The other nice thing the Yankees did is the girls softball team coming out wih the players. The Phillies do this every Sunday with little kids who are chosen that day. I child comes out with each player and stands for the anthem then they get something signed. It is that type of stuff that keeps kids involved and makes for memories of a lifetime.
I want to see jr. get a golden sombrero and ground into a DP.
for those who care, Joba’s fastball so far
92, 94, 92, 94, 92
Again.
Mo is awesome and it was wonderful the way the Yankees acknowledged the accomplishment AND mentioned the first RBI, which we all know Mo is most proud of!
Montero has hit his 2nd home run…
of the night. the first to right center was a solo and a two run homer in the third inning.
“montero just hit his 2nd homerun of the night…”
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jesus!
Erica – newly OPPC June 30th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Is it wrong I am a little jealous of these girls?
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I was very jealous of them!
“montero hit his 2nd homerun of the year at trenton this year (10th overall)..”
What a talent. He’s 19 and won’t turn 20 until well after the season is completed.
He’s had less than 70 at bats in AA and he’s already adjusted. He’s hitting .300, has more walks than strikeouts and has now homered back to back nights.
The Eastern League is notoriously difficult to hit in.
19 year olds just don’t do this. Only the very, very special ones.
And, again, what is it with the 5 o’clock shadows on all the pitchers????????
Has there been some superstitious thing going on?
Pete, I want to know!!!
Do you think Montero will Finish the Year in AAA?
“9/5/07 Alex homered twice in the same inning.”
Fun fact-
Johnny Damon holds the record with most hits in an inning. One game with the Red Sox he got 3 in the first inning
Erica – newly OPPC,
I remember this past spring training. My family & I went to P.F. Changs and our table was right next to Derek Jeter. He was with his family & some actress. The point of the story is is that, I thought I was going to faint. I was so starstruck, I couldn’t even eat my lunch. I remember as my family & I walked past his table, my knees were shaking uncontrollably. I don’t know, Maybe I’m just weird. lol I did get his straw though. Still have it. I didn’t ask for an autograph out of respect because he was with his family.
0-2 then you walk him? Griff will hurt him after lopez ks.
“What a talent. He’s 19 and won’t turn 20 until well after the season is completed.
He’s had less than 70 at bats in AA and he’s already adjusted. He’s hitting .300, has more walks than strikeouts and has now homered back to back nights.
The Eastern League is notoriously difficult to hit in.
19 year olds just don’t do this. Only the very, very special ones.”
it really is exciting to watch him develop….the sky is the limit for this guy…atleast offensively
Commemorating…
Mo’s endings, first pitch throwing…
Joba beginning…
Not gonna lie I want to see Jr go in the Upper deck
Solo shot please
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Carl ~
You do know that the M’s have played 32 one-run games (19-13) right?
I am in Boston and the game is being blacked out on MLB.tv… anyone else having those issues?
Doreen-
Maybe they shaved really early this morning, but because of rain delays- it looks scruffy??
“9/5/07 Alex homered twice in the same inning.”
Fun fact-
Johnny Damon holds the record with most hits in an inning. One game with the Red Sox he got 3 in the first inning
3 hits in one inning wow.
CB
June 30th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
“montero hit his 2nd homerun of the year at trenton this year (10th overall)..”
What a talent. He’s 19 and won’t turn 20 until well after the season is completed.
He’s had less than 70 at bats in AA and he’s already adjusted. He’s hitting .300, has more walks than strikeouts and has now homered back to back nights.
The Eastern League is notoriously difficult to hit in.
19 year olds just don’t do this. Only the very, very special ones.
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The best thing is that he’s not a pull hitter. He hits everything, everywhere.
HItters swing at 20% of the pitches Joba throws outside of the strike zone.
That is the lowest rate for any pitcher in the major leagues this year.
Major league hitters have adjusted to Joba. They will not swing at all of the pitches he tries to get them to chase out of the zone, especially with two strikes.
Joba still needs to adjust back. They just don’t chase his pitches often enough to warrant all of the pitches he throws to try to set them up.
RenataD-
I was at a Fleetwood Mac concert in 2003, and Paul O’Neill walked right by me. I had no problems stopping him and introducing myself
But I do hear what you are saying, I wouldn’t have interrupted his dinner. That’s just rude.
I am in Boston and the game is being blacked out on MLB.tv… anyone else having those issues?
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I am watching it on mlb.tv fine.
are you at home? I’ve had problems when I’m at Starbucks watching or a place like that.
if you call mlb.tv, they’ll allow your IP in and you can watch.
Those girls were adorable. Giggling when they saw themselves on the “big screen.”
Obviously in awe of being next to Yankees players.
It was sweet.
p.s. I am 30mi south of Boston
Yankees must win tonight to keep pace with Boston already 7-1
Joba sitting 92-94 based on MLB Gameday. He will be so special when he fully matures as a starter.
“HItters swing at 20% of the pitches Joba throws outside of the strike zone.”
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wow, cool stat. amazing too.
but not good.
joba consistently added velocity every inning last start…if he does that today hell be throwin some serious heat cause he did hit 94 a bunch that inning
Yea I am at home… never had this issue before
“Yankees must win tonight to keep pace with Boston already 7-1″
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do you know if games against Rich Hill count as a full game in the standings or just a half game (which is what they should be) ?
Carl-
It was 6/27/03. He actually shares the record with Gene Stephans from 1953.
Johnny is also tied with about 20 people for most hits in a 9 inning game (6 hits) set last year
http://baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/hits.shtml
“Yea I am at home… never had this issue before”
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that sucks. call mlb.tv and they’ll let you watch… but no clue why it didnt work already.
Someone tell Jeter to um take a pitch.
1st pitch swinging? Boo this man!
Erica – newly OPPC June 30th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Carl-
It was 6/27/03. He actually shares the record with Gene Stephans from 1953.
Johnny is also tied with about 20 people for most hits in a 9 inning game (6 hits) set last year
http://baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/hits.shtml
he hit the walkoff that game
Johnny!!
Wow that bat went in 3 directions.
“The best thing is that he’s not a pull hitter. He hits everything, everywhere.”
This is what separates him. Mike Stanton on the Marlins is a better power hitting prospect right now.
But in the minor leagues right now Montero is in the conversation for the single best bat in the baseball because of his combination of hitting skill and power.
In his first 65 at bats monter has struck out 6 times. 6 times. That is just amazing. He’s walked 7 times. This is double A. There are plenty of good prospects who strike out 6 times every week in AA.
You hate to place comparisons on guys but it’s hard not to watch him develop and think of Miguel Cabrera. It really is.
Heads up of Tex trying to slide.
I didn’t realize this until now, but in that game that Damon got 3 hits in the first inning- Guess who the opposing starter was??
Our old friend, Carl Pavano
He was out but good thinking by Tex to go down for the slide.
Erica -
That’s funny.
It’s just so noticeable – I don’t think I really care – it’s just such a break from what I’m used to seeing. Mustaches, yes. Scruffy unshaven faces, no.
same old A-ROID…… once he steps in NY soil he’s an automatic OUT……
robbie June 30th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
same old A-ROID…… once he steps in NY soil he’s an automatic OUT……
WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
robbie
What state is Citifield in?
Apparently Citi Field has Georgia clay
pat June 30th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
robbie
What state is Citifield in?
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lol
You guys crack me up sometimes. (Citifield/Georgia clay).
You saw that going to happen, didn’t ya?
ugh…
man…that ball needs to be caught by somebody
Doreen
June 30th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
You guys crack me up sometimes. (Citifield/Georgia clay).
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I am embarrassed to admit it, but it took me about a minute to understand this joke. LOL
Hinske has been issued No. 14
http://yesnetwork.stats.com/ml.....ort=roster
Joba was supposed to throw out a first pitch a couple weeks ago, but they were afraid he would shake off Posada.
Alex!!!
Beyootifull play by Alex!
nice play arod…
Chris
June 30th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Hinske has been issued No. 14
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I guess we aren’t retiring 14 in honor of Wilson Betemit
I tell ya, Alex is a baseball player. He has a terrific baseball IQ.
Erica – newly OPPC June 30th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Chris
June 30th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Hinske has been issued No. 14
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I guess we aren’t retiring 14 in honor of Wilson Betemit
lmao
niiiiice dp
29 pitches for Jobber 17 strikes, 12 balls
CB,
Great stat on Joba. I’d really like to see him be more aggressive in the zone. Even when he misses in the zone guys rarely square up on him.
Going into all these deep counts though do not help him.
Hitters have made the adjustment and are just subtracting pitches. They now lay off the slider and sit dead red.
He will eventually make the adjustment. All good pitchers do.
But, its growing pains just the same and you have to be patient.
I often forget he’s only 23 years old. A mere pup from a pitching perspective.
Erica -
Don’t feel bad. It took the second reference for me to “get” it.
Joba was supposed to throw out a first pitch a couple weeks ago, but they were afraid he would shake off Posada.
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Hahaha
Wow, Cano’s OBP is down to .330. That’s pitiful
A-Rod with the D…
Joba is a bystander…
Fist-pumping ensues…
Alex is playing a very good third base since that two day break. What a difference. He looked so stiff in the field up until that point.
Last year the Red Sox had one of the top 3 team defenses in baseball. The yankees were bottom 3. Coming into this season the Sox looked to have a much better defensive team. That was going to be a major advantage for them.
But so far this year Boston has been a very bad defensive team and the yankees have been league average.
And one of the major reasons for the Sox team struggles defensively has been Mike Lowell. That hip has decimated his range. He’s not nearly the defensive presence he was before.
Let’s hope Alex can continue to play this way in the field.
Matsui wb!
BR
June 30th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Wow, Cano’s OBP is down to .330. That’s pitiful
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Thank you for that insight. The good news is, it just went up
YES!!!
Beltre prob makes that play.
wow
Nice!!
The Mariners were obviously inspired by the fielding genius of the Mets against the Yankees over the weekend
EW! 2 errors on one play. Glad it was to the Yankees advantage.
Of course Arod is going to step up his D now, he hears footsteps.
Or should I say Hinske-steps.
Gutless performance by Baltimore tonight (and just about every night against Boston).
Sigh . . .
I did not mean as much to bash Cano but more of suprise by me. I did not think it had gotten that low. But really coming from someone who is a huge Cano fan I am really starting to question whether the Yankees would be better off if they traded him
swisher making the most of that AB
Yeah, I can see where Ozzie Guillen would have issues with Swish.
The Rising Sun sees…
Matsui’s return, swinging…
Error and a run…
Bob(the original)
June 30th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
You people are actually tracking Hinske’s flight? Really? He’s a bench player. Relax about it already.
You’re acting like Red Sox fans.
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comment of the night.
lmfao
good job melky
i cannot believe it…a sac fly!
Sac fly ! When was the last team we seen a sac fly Pel
I love sac flys
Trade Cano for who?
“I’d really like to see him be more aggressive in the zone. Even when he misses in the zone guys rarely square up on him.”
Hitters this year are only swinging at 36% of all Joba’s pitches. That’s the lowest of any pitcher in baseball.
He really does need to be more aggressive in the zone. It’s part of the reason why the bull pen talk is such fantasy. Joba of 2007 is never coming back because the league has adjusted. They aren’t swinging at the slider bouncing in the dirt.
He’ll adjust but … (cue cashman…) it’s a process.
How lucky was that
almost another error
Pinball or Baseball?
BR
June 30th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I did not mean as much to bash Cano but more of suprise by me. I did not think it had gotten that low. But really coming from someone who is a huge Cano fan I am really starting to question whether the Yankees would be better off if they traded him
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Historically, Cano is much better in the second half. So if that history holds true and he actually gets really hot after the all-star break, he will be a treat to watch
Rich McKinney reincarnated has found a home in Seattle…
28 pitches for Morrow 18 strikes, 10 balls
A .330 OBP is almost exactly league average.
It’s unfortunate that Cano’s is down that low but it’s hardly terrible particularly given that he hits for power.
Bret the Hitman June 30th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Trade Cano for who?
A good young OF. I do not think they should trade him now but at the end of the season or at least I am very close to thinking that.
give it back
No, no, no, no, no!
You don’t give a run back right away. Stop it, Joba!
Geez, that ball was smoked by a non hitter. Wow.
Montero has 2 HRs tonight.
Joba thought that was Jr
Joba a .100 hitter? come on.
How did I not know it was the #9 batter. That’s even worse.
Joba, stop it right here, please.
Posada must be tipping his pitches again…
Wow. Cedeno. An automatic out?
Whats’s Joba’s velocity tonight?
That fastball Cedeno hit was 95 mph.
Terrible location.
But man that guy can’t hit and he put a charge into that.
Almost seemed like he was expecting a fastball and knew it was coming.
Cano is playing Gold Glove second base and is in a bit of a slump right now. That doesn’t make him trade bait.
If they moved him down in the order, he will hit again.
Problem is, they have to break up the lefties.
So, the only spot you can move him is 8th and they probably don’t want him hitting 8th. Especially in games when Gardner is hitting 9th.
I wanted to trade him for Kemp in the offseason and then sign Furcal or Hudson.
Now hes taking 50 mins between each pitch.
Tyler Kepner tweets a lot during games.
People yammering again how bad Cano is, how lazy he is, how hit he can’t hit with runners on and want to trade him, but, only for a GOOD, YOUNG outfielder. If he’s so bad, what makes you think you’d get anything but a bum back in return?
Cedeno swinging…
Jarring, Joba looking up…
Back to parity…
This is where Joba can’t lose his aggressiveness in the strikezone and turn this into a big inning.
Keep attacking the zone and don’t let the HR affect you.
Solo HR’s won’t beat you. Walks do.
“I wanted to trade him for Kemp in the offseason and then sign Furcal or Hudson.”
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I wanted to trade him for Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain.
Smoltzy will not be back after the rain delay, for sure.
Ichiro is leading the league and hitting, and there’s no race? Umm, HELLO! Joe Mauer is hitting .386 and is about 2 games away from having enough plate appearances to qualify for the batting title.
My cousin said his favorite player is Cano but then sometimes he gets mad at Cano and Cano is not is favorite player for awhile and then he is his favorite player again. This goes back and forth with Cano according to his slumps.
I thought it was funny.
I believe Ichiro this season is on pace to break his single season hit record. He’s on pace to collect 269 hits this season.
I hate this man I swear. Take him deep JR!!!!
Have the Orioles given up on the season already?
so the joba implosion begins?!?!
I must confess. I have an Ichiro T-shirt. I just love his game.
Walking a guy with a .289 OBP. Inexcusable.
O’s in a delay in the top of the 5th. one can hope it gets rained out and those 9 runs go bye bye.
Too many pitches for joba, near 50 in 3 innings. what is wrong? Is it Dave Eiland?
How many rabid fans will soon be salivating at the thought of Hughes joining the rotation just as Joba nears his innings cap while Joba rejoins the bullpen? The stars seem to be aligning even now.
Closing in on 50 pitches. Mentally weak starter.
50 pitches for Joba after 3 innings.
50 pitches for Jobber 29 strikes 21 balls
Boston-Baltimore is in a rain delay and not official yet.
Good grief. Fifty pitches after 3 is not great, but one efficient inning and he can go seven.
I love Ichiro. He’s one of my favorite players to watch.
He has floor seats for Lakers games and his wife, a knockout, is a TV anchor for Japanese TV.
Everytime he goes to a game with her, the fans give them a standing ovation when they reach their seats1 lol
I think they have to get Everyday Al (Aceves) on standby. He may get a shot at another vulture win tonight.
Unless Joba is more aggressive in the zone, and stop getting in deep counts with every hitter, his pitch count is going to keep rising.
“Closing in on 50 pitches. Mentally weak starter.”
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at 23, it’s not long before he’s past his prime, either.
too bad. the kid had so much potential….
joba has to attack hitters more.
i don;t understand why he is not better at doing that.
trust your stuff.
eiland needs to tell him enough is enough.
drives me crazy.
OMG Joba just threw 95 mph! -_-
I don’t see a lot of improvement with Joba, start to start. He’ll have a good start and then take two steps back, it seems. I so much want to see a more linear growth chart, so to speak. I know it’s a learning curve, but I’m not seeing evidence of the learning.
Kay complaining about Joba’s velocity is great. According to Kay the fastball Joba threw to Guiteirrez was the best fastball he threw all night because it was 95.
The pitch Cedeno hammered was 95 mph. I guess that was tied for best fastball?
Joba rules: patience.
the nibbling is getting annoying
Bru,
Do you think they don’t tell him that? Whole lot different when you are on the mound.
There isn’t a young pitcher who has ever started who hasn’t gone through these kind of growing pains.
Its all part of the process.
You either have the patience to deal with it or you don’t develop young pitching.
Boston Dave, LOL.
I gues
“I so much want to see a more linear growth chart, so to speak. I know it’s a learning curve, but I’m not seeing evidence of the learning.”
Doreen,
There’s a saying amongst baseball analysts about projecting the performance of young pitchers.
It’s very, very hard to do because they are prone to “non-linear” gains and losses.
Edwin Jackson in detroit is a good example of a non-linear gain this year.
Linear growth would be great… but it just doesn’t happen that often.
joba, the plate is about 2 feet to the right
what do we do if montero is absolutely mashing AAA this year & next?
do we bring him up next year?
Pel it is. Boring game all around and Joba has a lot to do with it.
I’m getting to the point where it is so difficult to watch him pitch.
EVERY COUNT MUST BE FULL!!
Swisher would love facing Joba.
CB,
Kay can’t get over the fact he doesn’t throw 98 anymore.
I don’t know why it perplexes him.
‘Ya think last year’s shoulder injury could have something to do with it? It ain’t rocket science.
Bleich is getting cuffed around a bit in the bottom of the 6th for Trenton. 4-3 and runners on 1st and 2nd with one out. 7 hits, 3 walks and 4 strikeouts.
#13 needs a gold glove.
Kate Hudson June 30th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
EVERY COUNT MUST BE FULL!!
Swisher would love facing Joba.
haha
listen i m not tryin to joba hate..but what is the logic behind just blowing by one guy, then fallin behind the guy who grounded in to a DP last time..and then again fallin into a hitters count with the guy who took u out last time..iono
67 pitches for Jobber 38 strikes, 29 balls
I think the problem is exposure – our exposure to Joba – the Joba saga. I fully understand my expectations may be unrealistic.
Thanks, CB. At some level, I understand this; at another level, there is impatience.
Luckily, I’m not in charge of Joba’s development.
“what do we do if montero is absolutely mashing AAA this year & next?
do we bring him up next year?”
No. Because when he comes up he will struggle and that will annoy yankee fans as it will be so taxing to watch.
It’ll be just too much to bear.
It’s so hard being a fan of this team. The things they subject us to.
Doreen,
CB said it best. It never works out where young arms rise with every performance. There are ups and there are downs.
What’s funny is, Joba isn’t throwing the ball that great and he’s only given up 1 run in 4 innings.
That’s a testimony to just how great he will be when he figures it out. As long as he stays healthy of course.
Seems like forever since the Yankees made a trade with the Pirates. Maybe we’ll give Aceves the night off and trade for one of Pittsburgh’s relievers.
bru
June 30th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
what do we do if montero is absolutely mashing AAA this year & next?
do we bring him up next year?
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Forget it. He made an out in his last at bat and just like Chamberlain, he’s washed up….going in the tank.
SJ44 June 30th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Doreen,
CB said it best. It never works out where young arms rise with every performance. There are ups and there are downs.
What’s funny is, Joba isn’t throwing the ball that great and he’s only given up 1 run in 4 innings.
That’s a testimony to just how great he will be when he figures it out. As long as he stays healthy of course.
Hmm…Yeah or it couldn’t be that the Mariners are the Mariners right?
Is Snoopy the Yankees mascot or something?
“What’s funny is, Joba isn’t throwing the ball that great and he’s only given up 1 run in 4 innings.”
Overall this is one of the big stories of his year so far.
He won’t have his best stuff. He isn’t locating. And he doesn’t given up that many runs – ever.
It’s really amazing. His stuff is so good that hitters just don’t square him up that often.
I’m surprised O’Neill didn’t say Snoopy has a Kay size head.
Now Morrow is acting like Joba this is boring
Jesus Montero will spend all of 2010 at AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. No need to rush him. He won’t be 20 years old until 11/28.
sj my only problem witth that is, joba the only starter i know that soppossed to throw 93 to 95 as a startr throwing 91 91 meatball. i don’t expect 98 as a starter . i understaand he will struggle, not all about velocity. marrow throwing 95 conistant
“Jobber never gets to take a beating”
“They baby him”
“It’s atrocious!!!!!!”
the funny thing about joba is he causes us fans maximum stress from the first pitch to the last but no matter who he faces we are always in the game.
usually 3 runs.
“Now Morrow is acting like Joba this is boring”
Not as boring as your comments
Is it really so bad to throw a homer or GR double back? Provided you aim at nothing but grass (and especially not at an outfielder)… and you’re close enough to the field to guarantee you won’t be beaning a fan in front of you, I don’t see it as a huge issue.
I didn’t see the ball get thrown back… was it close to Damon?
Teddy is drunuk
It’s really amazing. His stuff is so good that hitters just don’t square him up that often.
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LD% of 20,
(GB% of 50 8o)
CB June 30th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
“Now Morrow is acting like Joba this is boring”
Not as boring as your comments
Good one!
Walking the bases loaded with no out to get to Swish. No respect!
Nick Whiffer………..
Marrow was drafted 5th in the same draft Joba was taken in.
He throws mid-90′s with ease. He is immensely talented.
Gives up a single to cano. And then nibbles too much and walks the next two hitters.
This is what it’s like for young pitchers to learn how to pitch in the majors.
David Price is having his own ups and downs in Tampa
i think joba is holding back on his velocity.
not saying that is but but i think he is trying to learn how to get outs throwing softer.
there is no doubt he can blaze it in at 98 mph for more than a few pitches.
Swisher is terrible.
So is Swisher “lazy” and “stupid” for that at bat?
If the Mets didn’t have bad luck, they’d have none at all.
Remember I said that when you watch highlights later tonight and you’ll understand.
Damon should be in LF most nights, Gardner in CF, Melky in RF…………Swisher needs to play alot less…………
Well, in all fairness CB, I’m not sure Swisher is that smart.
Look at that haircut.
Jeter is still coughing
Swisher is still choking
Hinske is still travelling
holy comedy of errors in the Mets game
gardner in cf,melky in rf,swish dh’ing with matsui,posada.
pat- Can you explain? I can’t put on pip have too many shows recording.
wow
bases loaded no outs
1 run forced in
Swisher looks like Edward Scissorshands kicked his………..
Morrow is wildly effective
Atrocious with RISP !!
wow, 1 run with bases loaded and no out.
UPDATE, 9:25 p.m.: Brutal at-bat for Swisher with the bases loaded and no outs. They should have sent a jet for Hinske.
lol
Montero is 2-3 with 2 homers, 3 RBI and a walk.
SA
Did you see the divot with face plant in the outfield?
i agree. Damon, Gardner, Melky. (swisher off the bench). this all or nothing style is more nothing than all.
Not good at all.
Up and down the lineup, the Yankees have hitters who just cannot hit with runners in scoring position.
It’s the main difference between the Red Sox and Yankees right now.
>What’s funny is, Joba isn’t throwing the ball that great and
>he’s only given up 1 run in 4 innings.
To the worst hitter on the card, no less.
Haven’t been paying super attention to this game but it doesn’t seem like Morrow is consistently getting any offspeed pitches over… it seems like a never ending chain of fastballs… They’re lettin’ him off the hook here a little 2 much
5-2 Milwaukee. With Santana pitching. This will be 5 in a row for them. The wolves will be howling….
GreenBeret7 June 30th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
People yammering again how bad Cano is, how lazy he is, how hit he can’t hit with runners on and want to trade him, but, only for a GOOD, YOUNG outfielder. If he’s so bad, what makes you think you’d get anything but a bum back in return?
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I personally do not think Cano is a bad baseball player at all. I think he is very good and has been my favorite player on the Yankees since he came up. I also think Cano could easily bring back a good young OF because he is highly regarded in this league as one of the best 2nd baseman.
HOWEVER, it has gotten to a point where I do not think he fits in this lineup or with the Yankees. He is not patient at all, he is extraordinarily streaky, and is consistently awful in big spots.
On a team with less pressure and where his every move is not scrutinized I think he can have a very very good career. But on the Yankees I think we will be talking about his potential his entire career.
lol joba
If you think Joba is the only pitcher in baseball whose velocity is up and down, you don’t watch a lot of baseball.
That’s why its called “pitching” and not “throw it as fast as you can”.
Sometimes, you feel strong, sometimes you don’t.
Sometimes your mechanics are really tight, sometimes they aren’t.
Its especially true for young pitchers.
Watch Morrow tonight and watch David Price’s start. Same thing.
1 million percent that should be an error, baseball is pretty stupid sometimes
joba is out version of dice-k. too many walks, yet somehow a respectable ERA.
One of the things that really helps young pitchers settle in and be aggressive is a lead.
The yankees could have helped Joba out a lot there. But more ineffective at bats with men on base.
Swisher isn’t terrible. He’s just limited. He has a widely divergent skill set where he does somethings very well and other things very poorly.
With RISP this year Swisher is hitting .200 which is terrible but he’s getting on base at a .478 clip which is remarkable but a walk really isn’t what you want with men on base (unless of course it’s bases loaded…)
Terry from NH June 30th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Atrocious with RISP !!
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Yanks are 0-8 with RISP. This could have been a laugher. Maybe it still will be……
Anybody else late for work because they’re up all night listening to miserable Mets fans the past few nights??
PS.
On WFAN of course. (I’m not running support groups for the beleaguered Metropolitans fans)
the finest proteins and vitamins???? hahahaha
jesus man, throw strikes.
what a mess
Unfortunately, it isn’t a good hitting team with the bases loaded and with RISP. They have changed players, batting order, tried everything. Nothing has clicked.
I think we may see more of a Gardner in center and Melky in RF setup soon.
Swisher really is better when he isn’t playing everyday.
Joba has to do a better job of looking Ichiro back at second.
Rookie mistake there.
hey look at that? an actual hit with RISP.
Susuki is odd, it seems like he can get a hit whenever he wants and steal whenever he wants….
The mistake was missing the ground ball
Damn. Come on
I blame Posada for this!!!!
*not really
our runs come on errors and outs. they single. take notes.
Why can we all see that Swisher is not an everyday player, but Girardi can’t??????????????????
Yeah Suzuki can steal whenever he wants when Girardi is asleep on the bench. Call a pitchout!
Ichiro has a hit in 53 of his last 56 games played.
I say Cashman stop playing w/ PIT and make that Aceves for Zach Duke deal already.
BTW what you notice from Joba is he gets lazy, it’s mechanics a bit off but it’s also lazyness.
Got to go to Aceves pretty soon. Too many pitches, too many mistakes from Joba.
Can’t have him cough up the lead here since the offense is in drydock again.
I’d have a very short leash on him right now.
CB,
That’s my entire thing about Swisher. I don’t think he’s a bad player. He’s just a limited player.
You can’t have a guy who is a below average defensive player and a below average hitter with RISP playing everyday in this lineup, IMO.
In spot duty, he’s an asset. Everyday, he’s not.
GreenBeret,
I personally do not think Cano is a bad baseball player at all. I think he is very good and has been my favorite player on the Yankees since he came up. I also think Cano could easily bring back a good young OF because he is highly regarded in this league as one of the best 2nd baseman.
HOWEVER, it has gotten to a point where I do not think he fits in this lineup or with the Yankees. He is not patient at all, he is extraordinarily streaky, and is consistently awful in big spots.
On a team with less pressure and where his every move is not scrutinized I think he can have a very very good career. But on the Yankees I think we will be talking about his potential his entire career.
Didn’t someone say Joba was a better pitcher than AJ early this year?
Jennifer
Just caught part of it.
From what I saw, CF slipped on the grass, caught his toe in the turf, face planted and had the ball drop next to him.
Another batter gets a hit and they threw the ball all over the field while 3 runs scored.
Gotta feel for Santana.
Runners wouldn’t be stealing the fillings out of Chamberlain’s and wang’s teeth if they’d learn to keep the runners closer….not even close…just closer.
Oh and Joba sucks at holding runners
with no regard for men on base
Joba isn’t pitching very well but he has held them to two runs. The offense needs to pick him up especially in bases loaded situations.
That’s stolen on Joba again.
Girardi has to get him out now and go to Aceves. He’s not concentrating out there and you have to think about winning the game. That’s more important than teaching right now.
That’s stolen on Joba again.
Girardi has to get him out now and go to Aceves. He’s not concentrating out there and you have to think about winning the game. That’s more important than teaching right now.
“Didn’t someone say Joba was a better pitcher than AJ early this year?”
He is he’s just lazy.
Posada is getting the shaft this inning. I’m a big Cervelli supporter but it’s innings like this that really make the CS stat pretty deceptive.
lol Joba gets mad, throws sand, then the sand gets in his eye lol
it really is amazing that this inning started on a ball that should of easily been an out…very sad
this walk situation is just ridiculous.
So…about Joba being a starter…
Horrible pitch selection on that 3-2 count… Griffey was way behind fastballs earlier in the game… just challenge him he’s not a 50 HR person anymore
Is there anyway we can get a total number of mound visits from Posada to Joba this season? Something tells me it’s an unusually high number.
“So…about Joba being a starter…”
Yeah what.
Sorry for the double post.
Hopefully, we see Aceves in the 6th and Joba can find a way out of this lead with the lead intact.
He’s making it awfully hard on himself tonight with the lapses in concentration.
It ain’t easy teachin’ the youngin’s how to pitch! lol
look up Dave Eiland’s pitching stats when he pitched then tell me why he is the pitching coach of the NY Yankees.
womp womp womp wommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmp
Keep walking guys, they’ll come around & score….
I seriously think i’d rather see Phil H. start and Joba go to the pen.. Joba’s starts are so annoying to watch and Phil is maturing and starting to understand the role of a starter. Joba still searching and his BB’s and nibbling get him in trouble.
now Melky is lazy, great.
bloopers all the time…i hate it
It’s pretty obvious to everyone but Girardi that Joba is done. Now they are just one big hit away from proving it for good.
Time to come get him Joe.
Terry from NH………….good point, Hughes should start, Joba to pen……..
“Yeah what.”
He’s NOT a starter. Every single start is painful to watch. It’s like a very slow train wreck.
Putting on 11 guys on base in under 5 innings isn’t good.. I think he did this his last start too!
Joba is almost as bad as he was on the Friday night Mets game. Lack of control. Too many pitches. What else is new with this guy?
I’d rather see Hughes in the rotation and Joba in the ‘pen.
How is Joba in the pen going to help if he can’t throw strikes? Its worse when you have a guy in the pen who can’t throw strikes.
Dave Eiland’s playing career has nothing to do with his ability as a pitching coach.
Its ok to be clueless. Its better though to have a clue.
Thanks Todd..lol
Take Joba out, he doesn’t deserve a chance to get a victory they way he slept through the 5th.
Please don’t send Joba back out.
im a huge joba fan, but what another uninspired performance.
88 pitches for Jobber 50 strikes, 38 balls
Bases loaded woes
Joba nibbles, M’s run wild
Hinske time comes soon
“I seriously think i’d rather see Phil H. start and Joba go to the pen.. Joba’s starts are so annoying to watch and Phil is maturing and starting to understand the role of a starter. Joba still searching and his BB’s and nibbling get him in trouble.”
It’s not going to happen overnight, what part of that don’t you kiddies understand, he is going through what young SP go through, Joba at his worst is Dice K at his best. Yussssse is actually adjusting to the BP well so no need to play mad scientists here.
joba has not gotten hit hard today…but its his walks and lack of holding on runners and fielding his position that has hurt him today
maybe Jobba should stop reading his press clippings from 2008 and concentrate on this season. say what you want about his pitching but his body language on the mound is veru telling. he is proving that the apple doesnt fall too far from the tree, just look at his meth-head drug dealing mother.
Get ready for Joba’s pre recorded post game comments that he uses after every start.
“Joba at his worst is Dice K at his best.”
Now I think last year was a fluke to Dice K, but Joba hasn’t proven to be anywhere near as good as Dice K was last year. He is afraid to throw strikes.
Putting him in the bullpen isn’t the answer to his struggles.
He’s not going to learn to be a starter unless he goes through the struggles.
This isn’t brain surgery. It takes time to develop young starters. They don’t come ready to go.
Stop being emotional and think.
If you recall, Phil Hughes also struggled as a starter, didn’t he?
The bullpen isn’t the answer for Joba and its not going to happen.
Also how is Joba going to the pen when it consistently takes him 4 innings to throw faster that 92
Frustrating innings.
The rain brings Yankee malaise.
Get tossed Girardi!
WOW
The Motherbashing is a bit much.
DC
look up Dave Eiland’s pitching stats when he pitched then tell me why he is the pitching coach of the NY Yankees.
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Go look at Dave Duncan’s pitching stats. Oh wait, they dont exist because he was never a pitcher.
My point is that you can’t judge a guy as a coach based on his playing career. Duncan is a great pitching coach despite the fact he was never actually a pitcher.
“Now I think last year was a fluke to Dice K, but Joba hasn’t proven to be anywhere near as good as Dice K was last year. He is afraid to throw strikes.”
Don’t EVEN START !
SJ,
With Swisher I think it’s one of those situations that you can’t expect to have plus players at every position.
I wish he was better but he’s not. He’s very good at drawing walks, he’s pretty good power hitter. And that’s it.
But IMO that does make his whole package on net of value.
I think part of what the problem is is his position in the line up. It keeps exposing his weaknesses.
He needs to hit in front of ARod, Tex and Posada rather than after.
I normally don’t care much abotu line up arrangement at all. But with Swisher i think it does matter. He is not a run producer despite his decent power. Girardi is confusing the two. HR do not necessarily equal run producer.
He does have very good on base skills. They need to maximize the value of those skills while mimimizing his limitations.
I think you do that by hitting him second. That way he can get on base for the middle of the order without him having to drive in as many runs himself unless he happens to hit a HR. The more I watch him play the more I think that’s important.
i heard the Ichiro hit was an easy play mr finesse joba just screwed up is that true??
this is mets 2 for Joba….
more clutch hitting for the yanks tonight. can they ever get a hit with men on base? shocking cano 2 singles with no one on bases, shocking………………..
Awww. Jay had a yankee fan hair-flip and I’m only getting to see it now.
Amusing.
When hasn’t Dice-K walked the ballpark, at times Oli Perez walking the ballpark. Don’t even start to you know what that.
Jebus Crais, sometimes I think the hitters are saying efyu to their own pitchers for not pitching well when the bats go dead
Smoltz – 4 IP, 3 H, 1 ER
All of you children need to read Pete’s 9:42 comments and commit it to memory.
Putting a guy in the bullpen who nibbles isn’t the solution.
Somehow, Joba has to realize nibbling is what puts him in these predicaments.
He sometimes doesn’t trust his stuff and it bites him in the butt.
People whining about joba act like he is not giving his team a chance to win each time he starts. The kid is 23 for christ sake, let him develop, at least his era is not over 10 right now, its under 4.00. In this rotation he is the #5 starter, not the ace.
“Also how is Joba going to the pen when it consistently takes him 4 innings to throw faster that 92″
Joba’s mentality as a starter is to tone it down on mph, but he seems to lack that bulldog mentality he had as a reliever too. I’d rather have him throw 95+ for a couple innings and go after hitters then to watch him nibble everyone to death.. It is painful to watch!
The more I watch Swisher play………the less I want to watch Swisher play………….
A little known fact
Phil’s refrain is Joba’s too
only twenty-three
Stuart
Are you prison?
Why is it that you can NEVER watch a game?
“look up Dave Eiland’s pitching stats when he pitched then tell me why he is the pitching coach of the NY Yankees.”
Dave Duncan is regarded as a great pitching coach. Look up his pitching stats….
Charge the mound Alex
“in” prison…
There’s gonna be ups and downs with Jobber. It’s a learning process. Today, has been pretty eh
Robbie, please put one on the short porch.
Thanks, you’re a pal.
We need to plate some runners for once………
Great Cano is up
Robbie Cannot
“Dave Duncan is regarded as a great pitching coach. Look up his pitching stats”
If pitching coaches were golfers, Eiland isn’t fit to be Duncan’s caddy.
cano is 2-2 with no one on so it stands to reason a double play is coming.
gettting sleeeeeepy……….
big spot for cano
At least Arod’s got a cutie in Kate Hudson now.. Madonna just didn’t cut it for me with those skinning tone arms of hers..lol
CB,
Good points. Its funny, Johnny Damon has done nothing to lose his second spot in the lineup but, it does seem that Nick is better hitting second.
That said, I’m real hesitant to move Damon out of the 2 hole.
You are right, he is a limited player.
Just may be a case of the wrong guy coming up in that situation, with little the Yankees can do about it.
Nephew watch……
First game tonight for West Virginia in the SAL league….
He’s 1-3 so far with the only RBI of the game and has thrown out 2 of 3 runners trying to steal.
1-0 West Virginia over Lake County, bottom 6.
“Great Cano is up”
robi in the clutch
“People whining about joba act like he is not giving his team a chance to win each time he starts. ”
Very true. He hasn’t pitched that well but he hasn’t been bad either.
What’s so funny is the constant complaint about how the way Joba is pitching is just so difficult to watch. It’s as if the subective experience of watching his “style” of pitching is much more important than whether the team wins.
Goodess! Joba is annoying me! How dare he bore me!
Everyone duck, the Cano bashers will make a mass apperance.
Like I said, Robbie Cannot
at least he didn’t ground into a double play like he usually does with RISP
cue rants
With time I think Joba will learn to trust his stuff and throw in the zone. He was throwing 95 mph fastballs tonight but many of them were 2 feet off the plate. He will be amazing once he can attack the zone with good consistent stuff. Obviously easier said than done.
cano blows another chance with RISP
cannot even move the runner. if he can hit with no one on, put HIM leadoff.
Can we please end this Cano in the 5 hole debacle?
If he can’t put his big boy pants and hit with runners on base, he needs to be dropped. Tomorrow.
hip
Gotta love the children blaming the pitching coach for the pitcher not throwing strikes.
You are just showing what you don’t know about the game.
It’s a team that’s utterly incapable of hitting with runners in scoring position.
Never seen anything like it on a team with this kind if talent.
I really haven’t.
Cano CMON stop wacking at every fastball you see
This game is atrocious
I am not just going to say this because of the most recent at bat, but Cano is such a frustrating player. Seems like he rarely comes through when needed.
I’d definitely be willing to let him go in a trade for a stud pitcher or whatever else that is valuable.
serious question: would you trade jobba for morrow?
sj
joba power fastball as a starter is gone.
joba a fastball pitcher with an average fastball no movement
yes you have to patience with young pitchers, there a difference
marrow throwing 95 mph fastball, joba throwing 91 meatballs
Wow 15 LOB tonight.. almost 3 an inning.. that is pretty darn bad!
even when they are on a roll, the fundamentals are still not there. you have to get the runners over.
Morrow was on a silver platter for the Yankees tonight. Sad.
i did not get the package this yr. live in calif.
shocking cano did not get a hit with men in scoring position. jorge or matsui have to hit 5th.
cano is a joke, he is all sizzle no substance, joke…..
swisher also cannot hit in important part of lineup because he k’s to much…
Pete – That sounds like the definition of overanxious.
Jorge!?
Dropped in the order. Not dropped from the team. I know if I didn’t come back and specify that, some moron will come and accuse me of wanting to DFA Cano.
Just bat him 7th.
ha, ground ball to second?
Matsui will make him pay his yen in full
Cano bashers have plenty of reason to come out and should be out for some time now. Get this guy out of the 5 hole. He wilts with men on and offers Alex absolutely NO protection. Alex has been walked with guys on at least 5 times in the past 2-3 games, more over a longer stretch. Jorge NEEDS to hit 5th.
I haven’t seen this many stranded since the last Gilligan’s Island rerun on Nick-At-Nite………….
max and ruby June 30th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
serious question: would you trade jobba for morrow?
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Serious Answer.
No.
If i had to take a diabetic though I’d consider Cutler.
I’ll bet he throws 104.
SJ-
I know you hate it when people complain about pitching and batting coaches. I get that. In your opinion, what would Kevin Long have to do to get fired? I mean, this team is AWFUL hitting with RISP and its even worse when you consider the talent. I dont know enough about the game to answer the question but there has to be a line, right?
“max and ruby
June 30th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
serious question: would you trade jobba for morrow?”
depends. Tell us about Morrow’s mom first.
That seems to count a lot in your book.
I have never ever heard of this guy or do I want to try and spell his name!
FEZ,
Could not agree with you more. I am not a big Dave Eiland fan. I understand you do not have to be a great player to be a great coach. He was the big mentor to Kennedy, Joba and Hughes. I understand they are all young but non of them have reached their hype yet.
Terry from NH
June 30th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Wow 15 LOB tonight.. almost 3 an inning.. that is pretty darn bad!
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Please tell us that you’re not an accountant. They’ve left 4 on base.
“marrow throwing 95 mph fastball, joba throwing 91 meatballs”
And yet they are tied…
bases loaded. get er done Matsui
SJ you alluded to one day that some yankee officials werent happy with the shape joba is in…what can they do in-season to change that?…being un-fit seems like the perfect reason for not being able to repeat your delivery and the loss of velocity…
cano is a moron. how can he not see that he does things differently with men on base and adjust??
if girardi continues to hit him 5th if this goes on much longer needs to get his head handed to him>…….
another chance with runners in scoring position. the yanks are what, like 0-8 right now?
If Kevin Long did what Bernie Madoff did….he MIGHT get fired…
A pitch below the knee is a strike. good to know.
man, the home plate ump has a low strike zone. 1st pitch to matsui was at his ankles…strike 1
Cano could hit 5th, but he is the master of putting himself in a hole. Because he has no patience again, he fouls off or swings early and finds himself 1-2 or 0-2 constantly hoping to fight off pitches to hit a mistake. He has zero plan at the plate when he gets up there with runners on. He seemed like he finally got it in the beginning of this year but is reverting back to his old self at the moment. Should not be hitting fifth.
Matsui at bat
Versus Mariner hurler
many syllables
I’m been trying to figure out the whole Cano hitting 5th stuff and here is (I think) Girardi’s dilemma.
You can’t stack the lefties in the lineup because it makes you vulnerable to lefty specialists late in the game.
If you hit Posada fifth, how do you shake out the rest of the order?
Matsui, Swisher, Cano, Cabrera. That works. But, what do you do when Gardner hits 9th. Its further complicated by Swisher’s inability to hit with RISP.
I’m not a fan of Cano hitting 5th but, Girardi is a bit hamstrung too because of other weaknesses in the lineup.
Hey Greenberet.. maybe you should do your math.. They are on the verge of leaving 18 men stranded tonight.. That would average to about 3+ per inning.. Swish himself has left 5 on.
“cano is a moron. how can he not see that he does things differently with men on base and adjust??”
Jeez louise!
So basically – IF the Yankees get to the playoffs, the SP has to pitch a shutout in order to get a win. This team is just not built to defeat good pitching – as I’ve said before, they are offensive bullies, mostly beating up on bad teams and bad pitchers (though they often don’t even take advantage of those situations nearly enough). This is why every Yankee game, with a rare exception, is fought tooth and nail – it’s rough on the pitchers (though I’m not inclined to give Joba the benefit of the doubt tonight).
I just don’t understand it – If the lineup was full of scrubs, that’s one thing. It’s not – the lineup is littered with talented hitters, some of whom are headed to Cooperstown.
Joe may have gone TOO far in trying to keep a stable lineup – this just isn’t working. Cano is awful in the 5th hole and Swisher is way too streaky – I think Joe needs to shake things up (not that I think that’s really the answer. For some reason, the Yankees sum is not as good as it’s parts).
So basically – IF the Yankees get to the playoffs, the SP has to pitch a shutout in order to get a win. This team is just not built to defeat good pitching – as I’ve said before, they are offensive bullies, mostly beating up on bad teams and bad pitchers (though they often don’t even take advantage of those situations nearly enough). This is why every Yankee game, with a rare exception, is fought tooth and nail – it’s rough on the pitchers (though I’m not inclined to give Joba the benefit of the doubt tonight).
I just don’t understand it – If the lineup was full of scrubs, that’s one thing. It’s not – the lineup is littered with talented hitters, some of whom are headed to Cooperstown.
Joe may have gone TOO far in trying to keep a stable lineup – this just isn’t working. Cano is awful in the 5th hole and Swisher is way too streaky – I think Joe needs to shake things up (not that I think that’s really the answer. For some reason, the Yankees sum is not as good as it’s parts).
Seattle should just intentionally walk the first 2 batters of every inning, since the Yanks can’t buy a hit with RISP.
well boston and tampa are at it again.
awesome
chances dwindling
R.I.P. – R.I.S.P.
tell Jacko Wassup!
Kevin Long is made of teflon…
Horrible
a small country left on base tonight
looks like the offense is picking up at home right where they left off vs. the nats. what a joke
ha i predicted that would happen. master of the ground ball to second.
more clutch hitting fro mthe millionaires tonight.
again the mets are hitting 20 points higher then the Yanks……
The yanks are 2nd in the league in runs scored with so many opptys. it is a disgrace……
This team just can’t hit with the bases loaded. Too many automatic outs in the lineup with the bases juiced.
That further complicates what Girardi can do with batting order.
Their offensive inconsistency is why you can’t blow 3-1 leads at home. The pitching has to be better to support the offense and not vice versa.
Cano is not hoping to hit a mistake, he is just trying to hit anything as can be seen from him swinging at two balls over his head.
Speaking of reverting to his old self. Sad stat…Cano is now actually seeing less pitches per plate appearance this year than he did last year
RISP=RUNNERS IN STRANDED POSITION…………..If the Yankees could get hits with guys on base, they’d end with 5 or 6 guys with over 100 RBI at season’s end….
They have left a village of yankees on base today.
Let it fly, Joba
It’s time to empty the tank
Aceves on deck
on pace to leave 25-35 LOB tonight… Can’t explain that one!
Can anybody give me a good reason why Gardner is not playing?……..His speed alone creates havoc…..
Grah. This team is frustrating. Score should be, like, 7-3 by now.
Montero is GOD
SJ screw the lefty specialist late in the game concern. If they are up by 3 runs who gives a crap???????
Move Cano down in the order…
How do you fix not hitting with runners in scoring position with this lineup? Don’t think you can.
Can we get a bag of chips for Matsui?
Jesus is God. Montero for GOD
max and ruby
I agree. Eiland and Long both stink! .209 in last few games with RISP
Fielder *CRUSHED* a solo jack off Santana just now.
Terry from NH
June 30th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Hey Greenberet.. maybe you should do your math.. They are on the verge of leaving 18 men stranded tonight.. That would average to about 3+ per inning.. Swish himself has left 5 on.
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Rather difficult to leave 18 runners on when they’ve scored 3 and only had 11 runners and one was erased in Teixeira’s DP. Hell, I can find games where they scored more than ten and left 15 actual runners on base.
Prince Fielder said…BANG
Jesus Montero is the Lord
can this team get more then 11 games over 500?????????????????
every single friggen count goes 3-2 after 0-2
take him out..
ENOUGH……………….
another full count? girardi should start fining him for full counts.
Jetes you could have gotten that.
Matsui’s left knee just no longers provide the strength needed to support the power to drive off of….It’s getting worse, as he pulls off so many pitches as he no longer plants his feet ….Such a shame…For those who watch Mantle in his final days it was the same thing & looks sadly the same…..
so frustrating
Jobber
Jesus Montero just hit 2 HR and you peasants ignore it? Unworthy peasants
Jesus Montero just hit 2 HR and you peasants ignore it? Unworthy peasants
Ralphie,
IMO, he does have to get in better shape because you get your power from your legs. His legs are not as strong as they should be, IMO.
He’s 23 and on a steep learning curve. He will though have to be more dedicated to fitness this off-season. It will help him in the long run.
Kevin Long is not the reason they aren’t hitting with RISP.
They didn’t hit consistently with RISP when Mattingly was here.
The hitting coach doesn’t teach not hitting with RISP. Its up to the players to do the job.
Other t
nice crowd
Pete, I have an idea for your next book…
0 and 2 to 3 and 2, the Joba Chamberlain story.
Why are Yankees fans posting on a Yankees blog as they watch a Mets game?
I’ve never understood that.
bringing in coke?
whatever.
Greenberet I guess MLB Gameday is wrong. 18 is 18 no way around that!
Tweet from Sweeny
“I’ve never witnessed Chinese water torture. I wonder if its anything like watching Morrow and Joba pitch in the same game?”
Not Alfredo time?
Nick in SF wrong again
Please, Phil Coke, add life
Joba is seriously hard to watch. 0-2 counts turn into 3-2 counts that become either walks or hits.
He has a really high WHIP and gets into so many deep counts. The defense must really hate pitching behind him (and no surprise, the defense has been terrible tonight).
BTW Fielder’s son hit a bomb off Johana tonight. I mean a bomb.
ANOTHER joba effort when he thinks he is darrel rasner.
he is so frustrating…. hey maybe the yanks can leave some more base runners next inning!!!!!!!!!!!!
The thing is, SJ, they shouldn’t have automatic outs. Melky’s done his job twice – Swisher may be limited, but he’s not a bad hitter. Matsui? I do think he’s done……Cano is still a very good hitter, but not as good as I thought. The fact that he has to hit lower in the lineup to cover how bad he is with RISP is pretty sad for a player with his ability. Damon is clutch – so is Jeter. Alex has been this year…..Tex, IMO, depends a bit too much on Alex (though of course he was going to cool off after that torrid stretch). If we keep saying that we have to live with Joba’s ups and downs, then we’ll have to deal with nights like this when he blows the lead. Andy’s a problem, too – he should have been DL’d with that back problem. Mostly, though, he’s just old – and has not been good at all. Wang is a major work in progress. In essence, we’re asking CC and AJ to carry the load and that’s impossible.
Is it my imagination, or do the Yankees play like they are in stuck in quicksand when there is a game start rain delay?
SJ
Who says Mattingly was a good hitting coach?
another average at best start for joba…joba frustrates me so much for 2 reasons.. 1) the walks, i know this can be corrected with experience (hopefully)…2) the amount of dinks and bloopers off this guy is unreal
CB
June 30th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
“People whining about joba act like he is not giving his team a chance to win each time he starts. ”
Very true. He hasn’t pitched that well but he hasn’t been bad either.
What’s so funny is the constant complaint about how the way Joba is pitching is just so difficult to watch. It’s as if the subective experience of watching his “style” of pitching is much more important than whether the team wins.
Goodess! Joba is annoying me! How dare he bore me!
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CB -
That’s not exactly fair. Of course it is not more important than giving the team an opportunity to win. I realize that he has held the opposition to few enough runs that the team has a chance to win the games he pitches.
But it IS difficult to watch him. Part of it is simply that it is difficult to watch anyone struggle, no matter who it is. Part of it is you want him to succeed so much.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I don’t feel like it’s whining to make a simple statement that it’s not easy watching Joba go through his growing pains. Because, it really isn’t.
It’s also quite difficult to leave 18 on base in 5 innings.
No wait, I’m sorry it’s not difficult at all, it’s impossible.
Stuart,
They aren’t always going to be up 3 runs if they move Cano down in the order.
I’m all for moving him down but, you still have Matsui and Swisher in the lineup everyday.
As the old saying goes, “the ball always finds you”.
What has to happen is Gardner and Cabrera need to play more together (the hot hand theory) because they offer more offensively. Especially on nights when they aren’t hitting bombs.
Why pitch to Ichiro?
the team seems sleepy
I’m all for throwing Gardner in there… out Swish on the bench
# Pel June 30th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Fielder *CRUSHED* a solo jack off Santana just now.
That’s an understatement. WOW.
Looks like Phil for the 7th, and maybe the 8th.
good job coke!
I think I’ll have a coke and a smile. Thanks.
thank you coke.
you put him away.
“Meanwhile, Joba works his usual 5.1 innings. He has made 15 starts and failed to get beyond the sixth inning 12 times.”
Joba is the one who belongs in the pen…not Hughes.
YUEEZE
Why can’t Michael Kay get a shot of demerol?
Terry from NH
June 30th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Greenberet I guess MLB Gameday is wrong. 18 is 18 no way around that!
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Instead of looking at what each hitter has failed to move up with hits, try looking at what the team as a whole has left on.
That’s the reason why Girardi doesn’t want to stack lefties in the lineup.
You put yourself at risk for a lefty specialist to snuff out an inning.
Great work by Coke.
We need Hinske to parachute into the stadium
Coke has really picked it up lately.
go to aceves or mr hughes next………………
“the team seems sleepy”
I’m wondering if it’s the rain delays, getting delayed an hour doesn’t do your gametime energy any good.
Boy, the days of Hideki Matsui being the “Godzilla” are ancient history. He looks absolutely lost up there these days. Sad.
Tampa is going to zoom right past us before the All-Star Break.
Wanna be startin something, wanna be startin something………………….Less score here!!!!!!!!!!
Joba is the king of no decisions.
The negative would say – he’s not getting wins.
The positives would say – he’s not getting losses.
SJ… The point is they have played a disproportionate number of tight games because they have difficulty blowing things open and tacking on…
matsui and jorge have issues but they both have been there and obviously jorge is a switch hitter.
the bottom line is cano and swisher cannot be big rbi guys because of the obvious flaws in there games………
Godzilla is extinct……
“You can’t stack the lefties in the lineup because it makes you vulnerable to lefty specialists late in the game.”
Cano hits lefties as well as righties. Swisher and Melky are switch hitters. There has to be a way to make the lineup work.
melky looking good
Quick random Predictions on our pitching for the year.
Joba Chamberlain: 9-5 with an ERA of 3.91
CC Sabathia: 16-8 with an ERA of 3.39
AJ Burnette: 13-9 with an ERA of 4.13
Chien-Ming Wang: 6-9 with an ERA of 6.21
Andy Pettitte: 14-9 with an ERA of 4.59
As for Alex Rodriguez, I see a .264 AVG with 29 HR’s and 93 RBI’s.
1 1/2 minute half inning……
Joba is a great reliever….he’s a mediocre starter (now). Which is why Hughes should be in there starting and Joba relieving.
“I’m wondering if it’s the rain delays, getting delayed an hour doesn’t do your gametime energy any good.”
I don’t know Brandon. This is who they’ve been in June. Rain delays or not against everyone except for a few games against the Braves and the Mets.
>Cano hits lefties as well as righties.
when the bases are empty, maybe.
This team hasn’t hit a grandslam yet this year, have they?
This team is sleeeeeeeeeepy
I hope Joba was watching that inning
unbelievable what can happen when you throw strikes
Cy Jacoobaccus………….
Donnie-
Why Ichiro under the O’Neill banner and not Griffey Jr? Doesn’t Griffey deserve it for 1995 alone?? That game 5 still hurts me.
I love the doom and gloom predictions.
3-3 game and Tampa is going “zoom past them”.
If they don’t, will you go away?
You were probably someone that predicted the season was “over” a few weeks ago.
did that half inning even last 2 minutes?
“This team hasn’t hit a grandslam yet this year, have they?”
atleast 1…molina
“Boy, the days of Hideki Matsui being the “Godzilla” are ancient history. He looks absolutely lost up there these days. Sad.”
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Current pitcher’s view of Matsui:
http://tinyurl.com/mn95wj
I think I need some coffee
I think the pitchers have something to do with the energy level too.
Joba/Morrow make the game drag for fans so it can’t help players all that much either.
It’s Youuuuuuuse!
hughes in right now…
is DJ playing drunk tonight or something
It has nothing to do with the pitching coach or manager
This team has been awful with RISP for YEARS. Under Torre/Mattingly and under Girardi/Long. The players have changed too… Sheffield, Abreu, Giambi, Bernie, etc. have been turned over, yet the problems remain the same.
There really is no scapegoat… the players are responsible.
“Joba is a great reliever….he’s a mediocre starter (now). Which is why Hughes should be in there starting and Joba relieving.”
This is a beautiful observation about Joba, I mean HE’S ONLY PITCHED LESS THAN A SEASON IN THE MAJORS AS A SP !
Has to be just about the dumbest thing I ever heard in rating a SP.
O’s fighting back. 10-5 and a man on in the 7th as Boston sticks an inning too long with Masterson.
Great play by Tex. His defense is absolutely invaluable to this team.
Bronx Jeers………….Very Funny!!!
He’s not a “great reliever” throwing 92 and not throwing strikes.
Please, stop with the bullpen nonsense. Go on Francesa’s show with that junk.
Stuart,
In 1996, with arguably better players, and a much better bench, they played tight games like this all year because the offense was not consistent.
Some years, the games are going to be tight and you have to win the close one’s.
This year looks like one of those years because I don’t think you can depend on this offense to be a juggernaut.
Pepitone
June 30th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Boy, the days of Hideki Matsui being the “Godzilla” are ancient history. He looks absolutely lost up there these days. Sad.
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Can we remind ourselves that the Yanks are coming off a 9 game NL road trip in which Matsui has had no more than maybe one at bat a game as a pinch hitter. Thats not a whole lot of work he’s gotten in
Does anyone else have the iPhone At Bat 2009 application? I am supposed to be getting the Yankees game streamed live over my phone, but when I try I get the Boston/O’s game! Anyone else having this problem? I live in D.C. is that makes any difference.
This is so weird. Last year we had Joba relieving games that Hughes started, and now Hughes is relieving games that Joba started.
Hughes is throwing 96!
Phil throws 93-94 as a starter. Mkay is stupid sometimes.
who would have ever thought we would be saying phil hughes has 5 mph on his fastball over joba
Matsui is Godzooki?
96 where are all the Hughes stinks and is a bust threads now?
LoHud turns ugly
Joba is the last big thing
Phil’s grass is greener
This is so weird. Last year we had Joba relieving games that Hughes started, and now Hughes is relieving games that Joba started.
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They also traded velocity as well.
Yep, Hughes will definitely benefit more from striking Ken Griffey Jr. out than from facing the Shelly Duncans of the world.
“Joba is a great reliever….he’s a mediocre starter (now). Which is why Hughes should be in there starting and Joba relieving.”
Hasn’t Hughes been a great reliever and mediocre starter so far in his career as well???? Give the youngsters a chance.
Another 1-2-3 inning for Phil……..
Nick in SF
June 30th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
LoHud turns ugly
Joba is the last big thing
Phil’s grass is greener
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Seriously Nick. This blog is so much nicer when the Yanks are winning and the trolls aren’t out in full force.
Now lets all hush and honor America with Kate Smith
Phil is beastly though
Youuuuuuuuuse
Maybe the Yankees should bring up Igawa to pitch to one batter in the first inning of both Hughes and Joba’s starts, then the Yankees will have two lights out pitchers who only need to overcome a 1-0 deficit over the next 9 innings!
The team looks like they want to be anywhere else but the ballpark.
When is the last time one of our opponents had a 2 minute inning?
Can the Yankees replace that scatchy Kate Smith rendition already??
damon
tex
arod
Has Phil Hughes suffered a shoulder injury like Joba did?
Sometimes thinking, even on a blog, is ok.
The team looks like they want to be anywhere else but the ballpark.
When is the last time one of our opponents had a 2 minute inning?
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6 minutes ago.
I think it is time for the mets to call it quits
Thank you, Erica
Don’t stop thinking about it
tomorrow, I mean
TEX IS DUE!!!!!!!
Yussse hitting 96 regularly, I never thought I’d see that again.
Johana still smarting from Fielder’s shot
clowns being a reliever is easier then starting.. EVAN do you know that? Do you need 4 pitches as a reliever to be a stud? No.
SJ,,, this team has the highest slugging %, about the 5th best avg, and the leading OBP.. There has to be a way the ycan get more of these cheap runs in…bases loaded 1 out, man on 3rd 1 out etc…..
Johnny Damon!
10-6, 7th inning in Baltimore – Can the O’s actually come back?
20 bucks says we see a home run in this inning.
Griffey looked Abreu-esque on that one
NICE!
get it going, guys!
Come on, just get a run, let Hughes pitch the 8th and hand it off to Mo.
“Sometimes thinking, even on a blog, is ok.”
If some people here started thinking, this blog would have more injuries than the Mets.
C’mon guys, get Hughes a win, he deserves one!
Here comes the Yankees (I hope)
lol @ Baltimore trying to rally.
take third Damon, they are disrespecting your speed by not keeping you close
Reading all the whining and complaining you’d think we were down by 5 runs or something.
Yeah Joba had another frustrating outing….its all a part of the process.
The RISP nonsense is really amusing. No team comes through a majority of the time with RISP. The 2008 Yankees ranked near the top of the league in RISP and look how far they got. In contrast, the 1998 team ranked near the bottom and won 114 regular season games.
The more guys that get on base, the more willbe left on base. Would you rather have Morrow throw a 2 hitter but have the Yankees bat .500 with RISP?
Its laugable.
“10-6, 7th inning in Baltimore – Can the O’s actually come back?”
I’m gonna say no, IDK I just think that.
SJ, when Phil goes back to starting, will his velocity drop to about 93/94? Does being in the pen bring about an automatic velocity increase? Shouldn’t Phil have the potential to throw 95/96 as a starter given that the weather hasn’t warmed up yet and that kids often gain velocity? I suppose it shouldn’t matter – his stuff is good at 93 or 95.
The great Masterson gave up 5 runs tonight. 10-6 Red Sox in the 7th inning.
Why Nick in SF.. Yesterday’s Gone
well that sucked
please let Yusssse pitch the 8th, no need to wast another pitcher and he threw 9 pitches that inning.
You know I’m not one to start calling out the whiners and I definitely give credit to some of the senior posters here tonight who have stuck it out and have quite graciously tried to calm the masses.
But they’re not even losing this game and it’s a whine festival in here.
Stop being babies.
Tex had like 3 pitches to hit
A runner in scoring position, just were Seattle wants the Yankees.
0-10
Tex needed to move the runner over. Now Damon needs to steal.
What kind of a name is Jocabascous, or is it Robagaskus, or maybe, Thropakuskus?
I don’t think they have enough letters to fit on his back.
i kinda like this pitcher…im sure next time he’ll pitch he’ll get lit up but theres something about him…
were=where, sorry about that.
they’ll probably walk arod and try for a dp from robinson
@Serf, I will take that, no dinger.
They’re gonna walk A Rod here again I bet.
Silence the critics Cano!
Cano will be given another shot
Why pitch to Alex when you can pitch to Robbie
When was the last time Tex had a day off??
Pepitone
June 30th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
What kind of a name is Jocabascous, or is it Robagaskus, or maybe, Thropakuskus?
I don’t think they have enough letters to fit on his back.
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Hahaha. It kind of looks like Snuffleupagus
Arod has let two pitches go that were right down the middle
Al com’on you can’t take that.
A-Rod is still looking at too many good pitches. Pull the trigger already.
Alex!!!!!
Forget what I said.
An A-Bomb… from A-Rod…
No doubt on that sucker
Arod patient and waited, was Robbie watching????
AN ABOMB FROM AROD
THERE’S MY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!
DON’T COME IN ON A-ROD!!!!
20 bucks says we see a home run in this inning.
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I’m never wrong.
BA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmm
I owe someone $20. Fair enough.
ABOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
finally we score! GO ALEX
Alex sucks and is so not clutch.
Whew Cano was up.
SIMPLY CRUSHED!!!
crap.
what are we gonna whine about now!
thereS your hit with RISP…YAY-ROD!
That one looked like one of those “ambulance shots” at the old Stadium.
a whine festival
not like in Napa Valley
Arod stomps the grapes
Arod is ready to go on a tear. From the second game in Atlanta you could see it a mile away.
Wait I thought Hinske was going to be our new 3rd Basemen? Guess Alex is hearing footsteps.
Wow, this pitcher must think his stuff is magical to throw three fastballs to Arod in the same at bat – with Cano on deck! Thanks for the gift
“When was the last time Tex had a day off??”
Yesterday
well that works arod, make that 1-11 with risp
Okay, A-Rod, you were clutch, there, even I have to admit it.
Thank you Alex! Kate is gonna love you tonight..lol
I bet there’s going to be a lot less whining now.
Hughes for the 8th
Mo for the 9th
12 games over .500.
1-11. I’ll take that.
Alex!
Bruney, then Mo.
I kinda saw that coming.
That gets me soo hot
It was nice to see Alex homer, but yet again, it’s in a meaningless situation when the game wasn’t on the line.
Apparently Seattle did not get the “Walk ARod and Pitch to Cano” memo
DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood)
June 30th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
crap.
what are we gonna whine about now!
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Nothing. Alex just waved the magic wand that makes the trolls disappear
That was a monster shot!!
Two weeks ago, ARod doesn’t catch up to 94 MPH up in the zone. That’s when you have your legs under you.
Let’s see the posters come back now who say he “never” gets big hits.
Always nice to see if they have the guts to show up after Arod delivers another big hit.
Think they’ll let Hughes pitch the 8th?
umm maybe hes getting it, but he will never fully get it.
The sound says it all…..Alex is coming around to form….WOW
Finally showing the last week some bat speed.
Keep Hughes in next inning-only 9 pitches, instead of Bruney.
Is that Woody Harrelson in the Yes Booth, or Paul O’Neil imitating Woody?
Mr. July…..hahaha…iddiots
Heck of a job by Kevin Long LOL
a whine festival
not like in Napa Valley
Arod stomps the grapes
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you people were sooo rightabout a-rod. who would want 8 more years of that?
“a whine festival
not like in Napa Valley
Arod stomps the grapes”
well done. That’s why you’re the headliner.
He kept his hands in perfectly on that one.
Hahaha. A-Rod took Mr. Snuffleupagus deep.
Sorry, I just gave this pitcher a new nickname and I am sticking to it
can’t wait till Tex & Arod get hot at the same time…
Hey guys. I have something to announce. It’s called an A-Bomb, from A-Rod. Thanks.
Betsy, I hope they keep Hughes in the 8th. Maybe just let Bruney be his safety net.
Alex is able to spin and drive& rotate his hips again….Very good for the Bombers…..Hughes is lights out…
tex’s friend June 30th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
you people were sooo rightabout a-rod. who would want 8 more years of that?
Hes done
Mets made it 6-4 with 2 outs in the 9th.
OK, time to bring in MO…….
that blender had an annoying voice
The scouting reports on the Yankees now say you can get them out with high heat.
That’s why guys are challenging the hitters up in the zone.
The scouting report changes when guys make them pay.
If I was setting up a plan to face this offense, that’s exactly how I would attack them until they show they can hit high heat.
Arod keeps hitting high heat, he’s going to force the scouting report to change, at least when it comes to facing him.
I am telling you all now- there is no way Girardi will keep his word and rest A-Rod. At least not fully out of the lineup. It will not happen
is this an ace night or bruney whats the deal…
I think they should leave in hughes but he pitched over an inning 2 days ago so they probably won’t
F-Mart hit his first no doubter in MIL (good for the kid)
Jeff, I hope so – but I think Bruney is coming out……
If Girardi takes out Hughes, I’m throwing my commemorative brick through the screen!!!
Fernando Martinez with his first career HR for the Mets.
dammit joe, leave in yusssssse
I wonder what Alex said to Peña. Maybe some good advice.
They should leave in Hughes for the 8th. Not only did he look great and only throw 8 pitches, but Bruney has been shaky lately.
Let Hughes be the bridge.
……MENTUM!
Ha! Had you guys for a moment there didn’t I?
Bruney better throw strikes
I think they will give Bruney another shot and see if he can handle the 8th.
I would avoid using Mo for 2 tonight.
WTH, GI Joe Yusssse only thre 9 pitches. Does this make sense ?
Gutierrez has looked good in CF.
I don’t remember that defense in Cleveland….
lets see if the stash-less bruney is better
Come on, Joe………..geez, what’s wrong with Phil pitching ONE more inning?
*threw*
We could have gone Yussse the 8th, Bruney in the 9th.
The last three batters had nearly perfect swings. Two bullets just left of dead center and looked puny next to Rodriguez’ blast.
0-2 and hit, Grr. Why not leave Hughes in?
Ha, he brings in Bruney, and he gives up a hit to the first hitter.
Shoulda left in Hughes???
he just went out and got that one…not a terrible pitch…step up bruney!
It makes too much sense to leave Hughes in & save Bruney for tomorrow………So of course Hughes is out….
uh, please hold this lead.
Because Bruney needs work
It’s Farnsworth in a Bruney mask
that base hit was on a pretty good pitch. bruney seems to be throwing with better control
“# Boston Dave 2.0 – the kinder gentler version June 30th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
that would be cool if Mariano throws the first pitch AND the last pitch tonight.”
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cmon Bruney – make this a reality
I don’t mean that I want to give up on Bruney, but Phil can go more than 9 pitches……what a waste.
im formally calling for franchise to be the set up man, and bruney to move down to 7.
“Gutierrez has looked good in CF.
I don’t remember that defense in Cleveland….”
He was that amazing fielding RF in CLE.
I also think they don’t want to use Hughes for 2 because they wouldn’t be able to use him for a couple of days.
Bruney just has to step up and get the job done here.
oh boy…
umm i think its time for role reversal
Well, in Bruney’s defense- they have ALL been strikes
two 0-2 hits
Who is Brian Bruney ?
ugh, here we go.
No one should be shocked that Bruney is in the game. We do have Mr. By the Book as manager.
shoulda kept Hughes in there — good thinking Girardi
Bruney
Should of kept Hughes in like Sunday they should have.
K-Rod is in his head!
Sorry but I have to vent……………Giradi was dumb for taking out Hughes…..
Orioles still fighting…
threw out Kottaras at the plate to keep it 10-6.
now they have their leadoff man on in the 8th.
Two hitters, two solid singles……….hmmmmm……
Brandon… “R.I.P. King Of Pop”
June 30th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Who is Brian Bruney ?
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Hahaha. I laugh everytime you ask this
Bruney…spitting the bit again
what is going on with bruney. 0 and 2 to scrubs… what is up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back to back two strike hard hits is inexcusable.
Unfortunately though, Bruney is showing why Hughes will soon be the 8th inning guy. Bruney is just not dependable enough to pitch 8th innings.
Great in the 7th, bad in the 8th.
Hopefully, he can limit the damage here.
Doreen,
Please let me clarify my earlier comment. I was in no way referring to anything you said. You made a number of good points regarding Joba and his growth. I shouldn’t have used the phrase “difficult to watch” because that was not what I was specifically referring to. I was referring to the constant complaints about being “annoyed” and “bored,” etc.
I was in no way referring to the very astute points you made earlier.
I was referring to smug comments like:
“Boring game all around and Joba has a lot to do with it.”
Bruney… why you do dees?
WHY YOU DO DEES TO ME, BRUNEY?!?!
Bruney is awful.
Time to officially make Hughes the 8th inning bridge to Mo, because Bruney obviously still hasn’t recovered from his injury.
ok…..this is not good
Hughes>Bruney. Only 9 pitches in the 7th. Now in comes Rivera to get 4 outs, if Bruney lucky enough to get two!
can we please remove the bruney now?
how quickly can he grow back that mustache??
well this has loss written all over it now.
Jesus AL didn’t even have a chance at that.
Girardi classic over managing here.
Hughes was lights out. Bruney….not so much lately.
Hughes throws 8 freaking pitches.
Now Bruney’s making an absolute mess of the 8th.
One run in, 2 runners on, no outs.
This one’s on GI Joe. And Torre was called ‘Clueless Joe’?
Three hitters, three solid singles……….Hughes anyone?
What did Bruney ever do to earn the 8th inning?
It should be Joba’s….but if Hughes is there instead of Joba then Hughes should have it. Bruney is injury prone and quite frankly not that good a pitcher. He has been with the team for several years now and I havent seen anything special from him.
Amazing how we need Mo for more than 3 outs this often.
Hughes deserves the set up man role.
News Flash…Bruney stinks…he must be still rusty
Told you it was Fansworth in a Bruney mask!
Orioles JUST missed a 2run HR.
leadoff single followed by a double off the top of the wall.
tying run in the on-deck circle against Bosotn.
why is arod playing so oft the line?
It wasn’t the mustache.
Brian PEWney……….
This is ridiculous! I could see a mile away that Hughes should have pitched the 8th and Girardi brings in Bruney?!
Screw wanting to give him a third chance to prove himself. How about he proves himself in the 7th inning when the game isn’t on the line?
I was with you too, Pete.
Of course Hughes should have been left in… Bruney has been awful as of late… But we have a moron for a manager, these things happen
Bruney is not an 8th inning pitcher!!!
Stupid move to change pitchers. Hughes should go two innings as oftenas possible. Now neither will be rested for tomorrow.
Can we dispense of the notion that Joba is an ace in the making? He throws too much slop for a power pitcher, falls behind too many hitters and runs up ridiculously high pitch counts. I’ve never been as frustrated with him as I am tonight watching him screw up a lead against a lousy offensive team. He’s gone seven innings twice in 15 starts.
walking ichiro
what a mess this is now
Come on Bruney. Man up. You have the stuff now use it!
Gotta get him out of there now or he will blow the game.
This has to be his last time pitching 8th innings. He’s just not good at it.
Some guys can do it and some guys can’t. He is one guy who can’t do it.
A terrible, terrible job against a team that can’t hit.
Bruney, firestarter
I didn’t think I’d say this
bring back the mustache
Good job, Joe………Phil was aleady out there and had thrown 9 pitches. Geez, I seriously have to question this guy’s smarts.
OH lord I don’t have a good feeling now.
Hughes threw 9 pitches, why even bother? Bruney hasn’t pitched enough. You might use Hughes Bruney and Mo all tonight along with Coke. More than likely Hughes won’t pitch back to back. This move made zero sense.
Hughes will be the 8th inning man until Bruney gets better I hope.
Can we put Bruney back on the DL?
I smell a grand slam….
they need to go get H Street as their 8th inning guy
Mustache or clean lip?
Doesn’t seem to matter much
Is Hughes the answer?
Bruney looks absolutely brutal out there. Just terrible tonight. He’s leaving EVERYTHING over the middle of the plate. I’m not gonna be shocked if this game gets ugly quick.
“Can we dispense of the notion that Joba is an ace in the making?”
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why would we do that?
comeon bruney
Get Bruney out of there.
Girardi letting him work with the bases loaded is a bad idea.
bases loaded nobody out for Baltimore.
tying run at the plate, nobody out.
(even though the man on 1st ran out of the baseline and should be out)
COME ON
mo warming up????
there were peeps here saying all Bruney’s problems were because he was rusty, maybe it’s that he stinks
If Bruney gives up the lead here, this place is going to go ballistic.
And that’s my prediction.
Because Joba is a special reliever and solves our 8th inning woes. Use Bruney in less vital situations like 6th/7th innings when the Yanks have more opportunities to score runs if needed. Bruney is not an 8th inning guy.
There’s no way he is our 8th inning guy if this team makes the playoffs.
bring Mariano in for these 2 outs.
let Aceves pitch the 9th
the game is on the line RIGHT HERE
here it comes.
Girardi is not very bright………….Makes moves for the sake of making moves
damn fatass Bruney, had the yankees on the run line.
Man…what a mistake putting Bruney in!
If you are not going to use Hughes for the 8th, then you can’t keep Bruney out there to blow the game for you. That’s a bad job by Joe, even if he lucks out here.
I go to the kitchen to make a root beer float and I come back to see this? Did Bruney make this mess?
Hughes should have pitched this 8th inning here. Only threw 9 pitches.
couldn’t the Yanks let Seattle borrow Cano for this AB?
Brutal. Simply brutal. This loss is on Girardi if it comes to be.
This kind of loss is why the Yanks will not make the playoffs
“bases loaded nobody out for Baltimore.”
tey’ll screw it up. Meanwhile Bruney I’m gonna kick your ass.
Intentional walk to Ichiro was a good call by Joe G.
great…
cmon Baltimore…
make the Sox feel the pain of blowing a 10-2 lead in the 7th.
Who cares if Hughes pitches 2 innings tonight and can’t go tomorrow? We’d have Coke, Aceves, Robertson, and Bruney ready to go (with Ace being able to go multiple innings).
Arod just gave the team a huge boost and you HAVE to shut the Mariners down. Bruney hasn’t proven yet that he can do that.
And why the HECK is he still allowed to pitch with the bases loaded??
Hey, Bruney, wanna get an out?
Or, you know, just walk in the tying run. That’d be cool, too, I guess.
Overmanaging by Giardi
i think its time to take bruney out of the 8th inning guy role
blown save for bruney
Bruney……….just, just……..he stinks.
and the lead is gone.
mother puss bucket
That was obvious blown lead once Hughes came out.
Nice job Joe.
Way to ruin a good time Brooooney!!!!
10-7 Boston
another hit for Baltimore
10-7
still nobody out
bases loaded!!!
hughes replace bruney… freaking hell
I wish K-Rod would have kicked Bruneys ass so he would gotten injured again.
Now we will hear tomorrow that Hughes isn’t available to go back to back days. Girardi is a complete fool.
It’s Bruney time!!!!!!!!!!………!@@##$%%
easy come, easy go.
at least Mo pitches the 9th
Donnie-
You should be meeting Griffey under the O’Neill banner. Do I need to remind you of the pain of 1995???
2 run lead this guy puts on 3 baserunners…can’t make this stuff up.
I like Girardi…but he does not learn…
get Cano out of the 5th spot
and Bruney out of the 8th inning role
i cant believe im saying this, go matt weiters.
10-7 in Charm City. Still bases drunk and no outs
10-7 sox bases jammed none out for O’s
Horrible job by Bruney
Hughes is TOO dominant to use for more than 1 inning.
Thanks for stealing a win from Hughes, Girardi.
I blame Joe as much as Bruney – the man has zero vision. He keeps saying Phil has done a great job and he trusts him……then he goes out and removes the kid after 9 pitches.
Melky and Jeter look like they need RBI this inning.
evan is fatcessa in disguise.
the joba to the pen garbage for the millionth time.
yea they should do it since they have so many starters…..
enough
Now Clueless Joe #2 will bring Mo in during a tie game, guaranteeing a loss.
5 back in the loss column from Boston and the Rays about to overtake them in the wild card.
And the Red Sox just keep winning…
Hughes should have pitched the 8th. Good managing Joe you putz.
Thanks for nothin
“mother puss bucket”.
HAHA…Oh, Ghostbusters. What a great movie/cartoon/video game/everything.
lets go baltimore
All I can say is I’m royally PO’ed…….They fight to get the lead & Giradi is stupid enough to take Hughes out when he is sailing along…………….
i dont get y girardi just wont make the easy freakin decisions..phil throws 9 pitches and pretty much blows by every one, next its the bottom part of the lineup..the same may ensue no? gahhhh
Get Wiggy with it !!!
I like Kay making excuses for him the whole inning.
What a complete hack.
A-Rod’s clutch laid to waste. Hughes could have easily done another inning, no?
if the Yanks get out of this inning tied, they’ll still win.
If Boston loses a game in which they led 10-2 in the 7th, it will be even better.
Wigginton
Roberts
Pie
Markakis
due up…
Takashi Saito coming in
Could have been worse. Lesson learned.
Take the lead back here.
i dont knw how anyone can expect girardi to not use bruney in that situation…its his job till he loses it…which will happen soon lol
Joba isn’t a “special reliever”.
Geez, do you even watch the games?
They don’t have a starting pitcher to replace Joba in the rotation.
Joba is also throwing 92 MPH. Thats isn’t “special”. That’s ORDINARY.
Really, get a clue.
That has to be Bruney’s last 8th inning chance of the year.
You tried it, it failed miserably, now stop.
Hughes has to pitch 8th innings. Brian Bruney can’t do it and isn’t going to do it and you can’t keep blowing leads hoping he can do it.
Phil Hughes is the second best relief pitcher on this team now next to Mo. Put him in the 8th inning role and be done with it.
orioles score with bases loaded.
Matsui is batting .189 in June. Ouch.
“10-7
still nobody out
bases loaded!!!”
They will screw it up some how BD, Baltimore always loses to Boston. Not since they had Millar have they played spoilers.
“Now Clueless Joe #2 will bring Mo in during a tie game, guaranteeing a loss. ”
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guaranteeing?
will you give me 3-1 odds?
since you are so sure?
fyi boston i think was up 10-1.
tex’s friend
June 30th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
orioles score with bases loaded.
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Maybe everyone should jump on the Oriole’s bandwagon then
the joba to the pen garbage for the millionth time.
yea they should do it since they have so many starters…..
enough”
Good one….this game proves my point…8th inning should belong to Joba (or Hughes – even though I think Hughes should be the one starting…)
But if you think Bruney is the answer you haven’t been paying attention.
“They will screw it up some how BD, Baltimore always loses to Boston. Not since they had Millar have they played spoilers.”
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still nice to see the Sox bullpen get smacked around
If hughes is cruising can’t we use him for more then 1 inning. Hughes had a 9 pitch 7th inning and Bruney sucks!
Sui!!!!!!
Time for Gardner to PR.
Pinch runner please
Run chop-sui san !
Put Gardener in! Put Gardener in!
Hopefully Cashman is working the phone trying to get us another reliable relief pitcher.
gotta PR for Matsui, please.
haha the Matsui clan
Matsui did it for dad!
I don’t usually kill managers over decisions, but this is a joke and I hope Joe is raked over the coals. Pathetic decision……I’m so angry at him, more than I have been in a long time
HELLO GARDNER
can we get a run so that we can hand the ball over to a reliever who we KNOW will get the job done
Godzooki almost didn’t make it to second on that double… just how bad are his knees?
The Matsui Family Box – LMAO!!
That was awesome!
Girardi manages completely by the book and it comes back to hurt them.
One of the problems with LaRussa style hyper bull pen specialization/ over managing is that if you take out a pitcher doing well to substitute another one for either a match up or to commit to a role you are increasing the chances that the next guy might just not have it that night. With the guy you just watched pitch you can assess already how he is throwing that night. And that matters with the pen.
I understand that they may want hughes for tomorrow. But the issue is that Hughes threw 9 pitches. How is 9 pitches going blank him out for tomorrow?
But the book says you have to have a 7th inning guy and then an 8th inning guy so that’s that.
I bet when Giradi was an infant he kept getting burnt by touching hot things………….Definite slow learner..
they go out and get a fat 3rd baseman,who’s hasn’t done anything in two years when their biggest problem is a 8th inning guy …H Street needs to be here.
BTW…there aren’t to many teams out there with a worse OF defense than the Yankees
you are right
it was 10-1 Boston heading to the bottom of the 7th
let’s go O’s!!!!
Hate to see Hughes just limit to one inning by being an 8th inning guy when he needs innings. But this is the second game in a row I thought Hughes should have been out there for inning number 2. Again only 9 pitches.
speaking of Saito, the yankees should of signed him. better then fatass Bruney.
Swish!!!
Paging Brett Gardner. Brett Gardner.
Swish with a PERFECT bunt. I like it!
Swisher king of bunt
matsui now batting .204 in June with that hit!
Please score a run and get this over with.
Way for YES to cover the pinch runner for Matsui.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
good job swisher
I rust Tomko in a big spot more than I do Bruney.
THAT SHOULD BE A HIT, GREAT BUNT
OH MY
“If you’re going to pitch Hughes in relief, then pitch him in relief. Let him pitch two innings, it builds up his innings and serves the purpose of winning games. Everybody wins.”
Here is what kills me about Girardi: he has not established ANY roles within that bullpen all year aside from Rivera and has bragged about the “flexibility” Hughes, Aceves, even Coke, afford him. Tonight, Coke in the 6th for a few hitters, then pulled. Tomorrow, he might be asked to get an inning and a third. The next, one lefty batter. In other words, no set role.
Fine, want to do it that way, do it that way. But, if you are going to do it that way, then ride the hot hand, take advantage of that “flexibility” and leave Hughes, who has been lights out and pitching great, in for the eighth. The ONLY reason he pulled Hughes is because Bruney is your “set up man” but no one is suppose to have roles, right? So why not leave the kid who has been pitching the best in? Why pull him for a guy who is still obviously trying to find himself since coming back? Dumb, dumb move.
another hit for Baltimore
10-7
still nobody out
bases loaded!!!
……………………….
See folks, even the mighty Red Sox have relief issues.
Giradi finally puts Gardner in the game..
Love the Matsui gang!
I think the Matsui clan should be given the seats behind homeplate for every game just to liven the place up.
Great bunt by Swish.
They got the Hughes rules now, he can’t pitch more then 1 inning.
The Melk man
Come on Melkman…deliver!
Let’s blow this puppy open.
No surprise it’s Melky that gets the big hit.
Melky!dsvgasgfa
MELKY! MELKY! MELKY!
I feel better about the last inning now.
The Melk man delivers!
Melkyyyy !
Melky, seriously, 7th inning and on.
WHY YOU DO DEES TO ME, TOO?!?!
no matter what, joe girardi is cheering the loudest right now
I don’t care how big of fans we are, he is the happiest
Bats bail out Joe for this one
“if the Yanks get out of this inning tied, they’ll still win.”
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like i said….
I don’t care if “BostonIsJustTooGood” guaranteed a Yanks loss.
Joe Girardi…The luckiest man on the face of the Earth!!!!!
Leche
Now it’s Jeter’s turn
HAHA BRUNEY TRIED TO BLOW IT BUT TO NO AVAIL!!! I like our offense a lot lately. Let’s tack on a few more
Yay Melky. Trying to get back to pepsi clutch player of the month status
This is a better team with Melky and Gardner playing together most days and Hughes in the 8th inning.
Gotta stop makin’ it tough on yourself Joe.
how ironic that bruney might get this win after giving up the lead
I bet Giradi puts in Tomko for the 9th
besides Joba relief tenure being about 30 games .guys like Evan think Joba excelled in that role for 3 years and in the minors!!!!!
Yes!
See, Bruney thought, “Hey, no sweat, we’ll get the lead back. I can pitch like crap if I want to.”
Hey, maybe we can even give Mo the day off.
Excellent job picking up Bruney…..but Joe, just because you get the win doesn’t mean we’re satisfied.
Bruney in the 8th inning should never happen again if, as he said today, Hughes is a “full-fledged reliever.”
I love that Melky hit that, and we’re winning again, but the fact that Hughes will get nothing out of this, and Bruney will get a win is sort of making me ill right now.
Sox O’s game is getting exciting
3-2 count
bases juiced
no outs
Nice how the Yankees are systematically dismantling Seattle’s best asset
phil wasn’t even warm yet. 9 pitches is nothing. thanks joe
Melky is clutch again!
well…all that talk last inning seems like nothing now…i like that
Melky drives in Gardner.
Girardi dodges a bullet in this one. This will be a game they win DESPITE his decisions not because of them.
Jete can make it a 3 run game here with a single.
No IBB to Jeets? Hmm. I would think the percentage play is to walk him and face Damon.
Shame that Bruney will get the win for such sloppy pitching!
10-8 Baltimore 1 out
Wigginton put a charge into it but it was just a sac fly
10-8
1st and 3rd
one out
roberts up
so bruney tied up the game so we would do what they always do in the 8th and 9th, last minute win from melky.
I mean 10-8 boston!
10-8 now boston. wigginton just missed one
Nobody is going to kill Joe in the postgame because Bruney is his 8th inning guy.
They will kill Bruney and rightfully so. He’s talked so much since the start of Spring and has done nothing to back it up.
10-8 sac fy 1st and 3rd one out
Jeter’s still coughing
10-8, 1 out, 1st and 3rd in Balt. Roberts up.
that’s how bad it is when you may trust Tomko more than Bruney
“Girardi manages completely by the book….”
Exactly CB.
The book says Brian Bruney is the 8th inning and Hughes isn’t and he just has to do it that way.
I would like to see Girardi use his gut feeling sometimes.
Brian PEWney now in line to get the win he deserves……
Can we get a pinch manager for the late innings? I’m tired of Joe – this is almost (not quite) the last straw for me – he is as stiff as a corpse when it comes to managing, just no flexibility whatsoever. Phil needs innings, he’s dominant…….WHAT is going through Joe’s head?
Can we get a pinch manager for the late innings? I’m tired of Joe – this is almost (not quite) the last straw for me – he is as stiff as a corpse when it comes to managing, just no flexibility whatsoever. Phil needs innings, he’s dominant…….WHAT is going through Joe’s head?
the captain!!!!
Jetah!
Sac fly to the wall in baltimore……just missed a grand slam.
Heyyyy Jeters back:)
That took a weird hop, didn’t it?
Captain Clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pat
June 30th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Melky and Jeter look like they need RBI this inning.
clutch..all clutch this inning
El Capitan!
Ok lets end this history nonsense, blow it open.
Didn’t Bruney say this Spring that he wants to be a closer and is already thinking about getting his next contract?
lol… good luck with that, Brian.
Mariners should have traded for Jose Veras. He would of shut it down.
Donnie, Bruney had bases loaded and 1 out and gave up one run. I remember a guy named Nelson who used to pitch himself in and out of trouble all the time during the late nineties. There’s something to be said for not imploding.
how long ago was it that the Yanks had lost this game according to the blog?
5 minutes ago?
gotta have faith in these guys!!
atta boy Jetes
Now Bruney gets a W
Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont
June 30th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Jeter’s still coughing
**
When I had swine flu I coughed for about a week and a half.
SJ, What Bruney did in the 8th is the reason why Cashman is going to get a top flight reliever to fill that role…..Street fills the bill…It’s the essentaily the key softspot on this club…..More than the lack of situational hitting…..
Sean White is their Brian Bruney
Knucklehead Joe got lucky. The Yankee bats wake up, and get him out of that extremely stupid move of taking out Hughes for Bruney.
For once it seems most people on the board agree that Hughes should be the 8th inning man, or at least a two inning guy. Dumb move by Girardi, he just got lucky.
The official scorer should be allowed to give Hughes the win, and not Bruney. Baseball has some pretty dumb rules.
“Sac fly to the wall in baltimore……just missed a grand slam.”
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it wasnt that close…. but he did hit it hard. another 20-30 feet (due to the high wall in right) for that to go out.
Boston Dave, you realize that all these comebacks marks the trend for a not so good postseason team.
Being Girardi does everything by the book, I wonder if he reads every inch of the manual that he gets whenever he buys a new refrigerator, etc….??
“Now Bruney gets a W”
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who cares?
people are disappointed??
he didnt pitch well. i still want him to get the W.
why?
because the only wins that matter are hte ones for the team.
12 games over .500!!! let’s go!
Too bad Bruney gets the win…..
H Street…needs to be here
GJ Jeter nice base running
the captain again!
Naz
June 30th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Boston Dave, you realize that all these comebacks marks the trend for a not so good postseason team.
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Does rolling over and playing dead if you don’t score first make for a better playoff team???
Seriously, The Matsui family needs to be a reality show on YES.
I’d rather see them dance every night than Cotton Eyed Joe.
I give the Yanks a lot of credit for bouncing back from a bad inning, but I’m still peeved and I think Phil might privately be as well……..
Good thing he’s got those spider legs!
BD I take it Baltimore didn’t get it done.
“Boston Dave, you realize that all these comebacks marks the trend for a not so good postseason team.”
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what gives you that idea? I’d love to see some stats on that.
I’ve never heard anything like that.
10-9 boston
Just our luck…………..Bruney was one of the few Yankees NOT to catch the flu!!!!!!
BALTIMORE!!!!
1 run game
2 on, 1 out
That’s right – Bruney will likely get the win (meaning, if the Yanks hold on). That makes me even madder. It’s sad, but I think Cash has to step in. In fact, I’d rather Cash manage the team……
Lighten up Dave. Just stating the case, not saying whether it’s good bad or ugly.
10-9…. 1 out.
10-9 1st and 2nd 1 out
Lets go Alex!
10-9
Naz
June 30th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
I bet Giradi puts in Tomko for the 9th
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Yanks lead 8-5, you just may be right.
Roberts RBI single, 10-9 Boston, two on, one out for the Os.
too bad adam jones is out of this game
“H Street…needs to be here”
Good luck Colorado isn’t dealing him.
I could have swore I saw Matsui’s wife in that luxury box!
If they show it again – look for the piece of paper peeking out of that guy’s front shirt pocket on the left.
a lock down 8th inning guy is what they need to beat Boston,otherwise they will have a very hard time beating them or anyone else with a snall lead going into the 8th inning
its really amazing how fans go from wanting bruney back so bad to being disappointed that he’ll get a win in a game he blew a lead?…wow is that sad or what..
Roberts “doubled” but Wieters is slow and wasn’t aggressive so he stayed at 2nd.
instead of 2nd and 3rd, 10-9, 1 out
it’s 1st and 2nd.
Papelbon coming in for a 5 out save.
Papelbon has been working harder (more pitches) for his saves this season.
It would not surprise me at all if he tires out by September.
Joe (Panid) Girardi would have had Mo in the game at 10-7.
10-9 now and papsmear is coming in
Boston’s going to Papelbon for a 5 out save.
Either way, they will be jumping into the Boston Harbor tomorrow
“Sean White is their Brian Bruney”
Sean White better than “Big Mouth” Bruney.
Just missed it
we get to see Mo though 
Let’s go Baltimore!
here’s hoping we can keep this lead this time
he’s (Street)has been on the trade block for over a month now
501 coming up.
Pop that shoulder Papelblown
Baltimore always screws it up.
phew, pinch runner for Wieters.
if they had pinch run for him one batter earlier, it’s 2nd and 3rd 1 out
Francona must have been scoreboard watching and saw the Yankees went ahead. He’s feeling the lead slip slip slipping away!
come on felix pie
Pete….I hope you still give it to Joe about yanking Hughes!!! NOT a smart move.
Guthrie is pinch-running for Wieters, lol. Let’s go O’s!
Joe I
June 30th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Melky is clutch again!
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Melky likes the big spot and Melky can hit, and obviously his shoulder is much better, because he’s back to driving the ball again left-handed.
“SJ, What Bruney did in the 8th is the reason why Cashman is going to get a top flight reliever to fill that role…..Street fills the bill…It’s the essentaily the key softspot on this club…..More than the lack of situational hitting…..”
The National league swing lately has brought the best out of our play. It was the National league style of play that won us a WS in 96, with all the comeback manufactured runs.
Not sure Street is the answer, and he won’t be available as the Rockies are in a wildcard position.
please please please Baltimore
get this done
the unhittable Boston bullpen needs to blow a 10-1 lead over the course of 4-5 outs.
Good thing Veras is gone, or Girardi might be tempted to bring him in……
Felix Pie Cmon PLEase!
“he’s (Street)has been on the trade block for over a month now”
SINCE WHEN !, In late April mid May yes. He’s been off the block eversince thier winning streak. They are in playoff contention, they aren’t dealing him genius.
ump just gave Pap a bad strike call.. 4-5 inches off the plate
These umpires are giving Boston the game
strike 2 to pie was in the other batters box
Josh
even the Boston announcers said “wow, that was 6 inches outside”
O’s announcers are PO’ed , Paps got a strike on a pitch 2 ft wide of plate….
Did anyone REALLY think Felix Pie was going to do anything there? I mean, seriously?
up to Markakis
it’s up to Markakis
im calling a 3 run bomb by MARKAKIS
Pie whiffs.
It’s on Markakis.
comeon markakis
YES
1!!!
markakais
o’s lead
Baltimore leads!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Baltimore will screw it up some how, either umps or thier bats.
Baltimore takes the lead!
NICK FREAKIN’ MARKAKIS.
Papeljuice coughs it up – sweet.
11-10 O’s
11-10 BALTIMORE.. Papelbon gives it up!!!!!
Markakis rips a double into the gap
2 runs score
he goes to 3rd on the throw
11-10 O’s
WHOOP WHHOOP WHOOOOOPPPPPPPPPP
PapelblowN!!!!!!
I love Markakis!!!!!
O’s lead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before Bruney went on the DL, he was doing a great job. He had earned the 8th inning spot. I don’t disagree with Girardi trying to keep him there when he first comes back from the DL.
That being said, Hughes has been outstanding. I think he’s the guy now. And I think if Hughes throws 9 pitches in the 7th, you bring him in for the 8th.
And it stinks that Bruney could get the win here.
And I think this will be it for Bruney in the 8th, at least most of the time.
Girardi lets his players determine how they will be used, IMO. Sometimes that will come back to bite him, I guess.
CB -
I wasn’t upset with you, I just wanted to make the point that sometimes an observation is not a whine.
YESSSS MARK!!!!!!!!
nick markakis!!!!!
Nevermind.
Jeter shows a rejuvenated arm!
nice papelbon…. nice.
it was 10-1 Boston just 5 outs ago
11-10 against “the best bullpen in baseball”
NICK MARKASIS!! BLEW 10-1 LEAD
now, back to mariano
Jonathan PIMPLEBUTT
Markakis, will he be the 2011 Paul O’Neil?
B-MORE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wonderful news. Mass suicides in Boston to follow tomorrow. Not that I encourage suicide, but you know what I mean
i love it when papelbon sucks
All right Markakis!!!
Come on hot stuff Markakis
Yes!
Pablebaum just gave up a double. Orioles fights back to take lead 11-10.
You people out there begging for a top-flight reliever – who exactly are you talking about? Look at the Sox bullpen tonight? Be thankful you have Mariano. He’s the closest there is to a sure thing in baseball.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matsui clan cheers
Melky, Jeter deliver
then Mo, first and last
You guys must be loving this….the wheels falling off in the Sox game!
Mo = Illegal he’s just soooooo good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES !!! NIRVANA !!! Screw you Bruney !
I LOVE YA MO !
theeeeeeeee yankeesssss winnnnnnnnn
F Boston
Can anyone smell 2 games back? Not so fast, the Orioles have battled back a couple of times this year to give it back in the ninth.
sucks for all those bandwagon sox fans in baltimore
here is the post of the night….
“Bostonisjusttoogood June 30th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Now Clueless Joe #2 will bring Mo in during a tie game, guaranteeing a loss.
5 back in the loss column from Boston and the Rays about to overtake them in the wild card.
And the Red Sox just keep winning…”
Yankkes win and Papelbum blows a lead in the same minute.
3 more outs for the O’s to make it a great night.
“Melky likes the big spot and Melky can hit, and obviously his shoulder is much better, because he’s back to driving the ball again left-handed.”
I could tell he was locked in tonight on his sac fly. Melky like Robi is at his best when driving the ball the other way. I’ve always liked Melky from when he first came up. I’ve rooted for him like a little brother since that Boston game in Fenway when he screwed up on the Nixon ball. The kid has shown toughness this year, just like the rest of the team. I really like this team. The manager sometimes gets me crazy, but the team has fight.
papelbon whining to the ump. thats the way to get the ump to like you
2 1/2 games back since the Sox won last night and Yanks didn’t play.
papelbon having his usual temper tantrum on the mound like the baby he is
Yankees win
Red Sox blow the lead
Markakis is hot
Youuuuuse is the new Jobber
Interesting night
C’mon, finish this one O’s.
Rivera looking skyward is such an intimate, quiet devotion. Not all that hot-dog pointing.
I would gladly follow Mo into war.
Anyone see the “4-run double” tonight in Mets game??? That was great.
Mets suck!
Absolutely Boston Dave. I can smell the whine from here. Total pity party
Can they hold it lol
How about Girardi taking Cano out of the 5th spot and putting Posada there. Cano has no plate discipline. Posada is much more patient than Cano.
Why take Hughes out to bring in Bruney? Hughes hadn’t thrown that many pitches, give him another inning.
Girardi seems to have settled on Bruney for the 8th inning. Everyone else in the pen has no defined role.
READ THIS…………..In the Sox game, earlier when Sox were up 10-1, the Sox were laughing their heads off & actually they all ran off the field when there were just 2 outs,not 3!! They were all yucking it up…
We don’t need Houston Street, there is nothing wrong with the relief pitchers we have now.
Everyone was complaining when Bruney was out, now they’re complaining when Bruney is back. Come on make up your minds!
Watching the vaunted Boston bullpen implode against the lowly Orioles will hopefully teach a lot of you a lesson. Every team, EVERY TEAM, goes through spells of bad baseball.
I really love our pitching, they’re all young (most are in their early 20′s) and they’re all improving.
Bruney had a bad game, but so does everybody. He deserves another chance.
does baltimore even have a closer?
O’s, please hold it!
Bruney gets the win – throw up. YES, I’m aware the team won (credit to them for erasing the stench of Bruney’s performance) and that’s the most important thing, but I wish I had a smiley emoticon with steam coming out of it’s head because that’s how I feel.
“You guys must be loving this….the wheels falling off in the Sox game!”
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ray,
i shut the game off for the rain delay and didnt turn it back on til the 7th when Baltimore got things going.
of course I hope this is a trend with the bullpen… we’ll see
they’ve been pretty good so far. they were due for a dud.
comeon baltimore. 3 more outs
Why do Mo and Jorge always touch 2nd base after the game?
Great win, entertaining game to boot…getting to watch the Sox choke on Atbat.TV makes this a great night now!
Nice win tonite, what a shot by A-Rod!
Congrats on the 1st game, Yank fans.
Told ya Brandon wasn’t the same pitcher you saw last September. Unfortunately for the M’s, Sean White wasn’t the pitcher he’s been most of this season.
And, we miss Adrian already.
Here’s a good game tomorrow …
hoping there’s a rubber game on Thursday.
~Rosy
S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC
June 30th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Yankees win
Red Sox blow the lead
Markakis is hot
Youuuuuse is the new Jobber
Interesting night
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You are right. A bit bizarro, but in a good way. Mo throwing the first and last pitch was a nice touch
GO ORIOLES!!!!!
Bailey Lugo Pedroia up in the ninth
“papelbon having his usual temper tantrum on the mound like the baby he is”
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the ump gave pap a strike call 6 inches off the plate.
then markakis hits a pretty good fastball tailing away to the left field gap.
ump did nothing wrong. he helped pap out if anything.
Orioles got the lead. Got to keep it. Bottom of the order up.
Mo’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6207162560b280f1/
Betsy.. is this face mad enough?
Or you can always do the popular…
OMG this red sox game is awesome
!!!!! gotta love papelbon getting hit!!! With that dumb baby face he makes on the mound…just hope that Sherrill holds it.. *knock on wood*
Alright, Sherrill, don’t screw this up.
Come on George Sherrill. Close the game and get us within 2.
Tony Randazzo, the HP umpire in the Orioles game either needs to be suspended or sent to A Ball to learn the strikezone.
Its embarrassing the performance he is giving tonight.
He called a pitch, and I’m not kidding, 2 full feet off the plate a strike to Pie and changed that entire AB.
Markakis took it out of Randazzo’s hands by hitting the 2 run triple to give them the lead.
However, you can’t be that bad at your job and work as a ML umpire. Just a pathetic performance.
I am sitting in my living room watching the sox-o’s game on my iphone in near hi-def quality. Pretty amazing…
Wiggington at shortstop? Uh-oh.
Thanks Pel
“gotta love papelbon getting hit!!”
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and masterson
and okajima
and delcarmen
and saito
comeon sherill
P.S. Brooks Robinson Rodriguez has been putting some defensive clinic in these games eversince the rest. Please do not over use him.
>Thanks Pel
Sherill all over the place.
I am still amazed Sherrill’s arm didn’t fall off after pitching all those innings during the allstar game.
Nice win.
SJ44
and papelbon actually complained to the ump after the inning.
that pitch to Pie was embarrassing.
Markakis hit that ball well and made it somewhat of a moot point.
you’re right about the orioles HP ump. that one to pie and to be fair, the ball 4 to huff was in the zone pretty clearly.
Bailey on the Sox looks like he’s 48 years old..
“Bruney had a bad game, but so does everybody. He deserves another chance.”
Right now he looks nothing like what he looked like earlier in the year.
I wonder if he needed more time throwing in the minor leagues before coming back? He only had that one outing in Trenton before returning to the bigs.
He might just be rusty.
That said he might need some time up here in lower leverage situations as he gets back.
Sherrill can’t locate anything. Not good.
leadoff single Boston
Apparantly Ron Darling DESTROYED Santana and the Mets during the postgame. Anyone have any idea what he said?
Erica, close…….actually I feel like one of those comic strip characters that curse by using *&^*(&# , etc…….. Bruney should give the win to Phil – still, I’m angry at Joe, not so much at Brian.
With Washburn pitching tomorrow, I’m sure that Girardi is expecting another close, rather low scoring game and wanted Hughes for two nights in a row and not burn him for tomorrow. Just a guess. Bruney didn’t do it, but, he’s still been good more times than bad. I’ll settle for the win.
wow men on base already they cant hold it…
Of course Sherrill can’t get Bailey out
why am i surprised boston won’t go down. they are like my high school girlfriend.
This could’ve been a Mariano to Wetteland thing. They shou;d’ve had Hughes pitch the 8th also. Then handed off to Mariano. Lucky we won though.
“I would gladly follow Mo into war.”
No offense but I’d prefer if he followed you if you know what I mean. He could follow both of us. How’s that.
Actually I see Mo as a conscientious objector.
serenity now Sherrill.
Yeah I’d take the Sux pen every day of the week. 9 ER and a blown save.
Sweet.
Well Betsy- What about
or 
“My name is Sherill, and I am your daughter.”
Just saw f Mart in CF on the Hart “double” wow that was a typical Met disaster.
has baltimore beaten boston this year yet or are they being abused like we are?
Lugo DP coming up…
cmon Sherrill
I knew Baltimore couldn’t do it.
should’ve
Sherril=Bruney
Dave,
That pitch to Pie was 2 feet off the plate. Its hysterical to me that Papelbon is complaining about the strike zone. It was as big as the Inner Harbor for him!
The nephew just caught his first career shutout and got the game winning hit in his first game in full season A Ball.
Just need the Orioles to hang on for a trifecta night!
2 guys on base…..
So this is how Phil is going to get his innings in….1 at at time. Joe is just utterly clueless, boy I can’t believe how pissed I am.
George Sherrill looks tight as a drum. Folks, there are only a handful literally, a handful of dependable closers.
This is going to be bad.
LETS! GO! O’s!
WHEW. That was a NASTY breaking pitch by Sherrill.
Are there any outs with the two on?
“Yeah I’d take the Sux pen every day of the week. 9 ER and a blown save.
Sweet.”
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trisha
you’re being too nice to them.
it’s 10 runs and a blown save
What a joke. Can’t even get Bailey and Lugo out.
Erica, those pretty much fit, lol…..
Good job Sherrill…..rip the heart out of your team. Sheesh……
DONNIE-
Meet Griffey under the O’Neill banner!!!! He deserves it. 1995 hurt. A LOT
Lugo is still with Boston. I thought they traded him but I guess they cant find anyone to take him.
“The nephew just caught his first career shutout and got the game winning hit in his first game in full season A Ball.”
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nice. didn’t take him long to settle in, eh?
one on no outs
Great work by the Orioles getting back up. Hopefully they can close it. Good game by the Yankees. Bats are still alive.
He just can’t give Boston the lead.
Boston will come back. This pitcher is no good.
“it’s 10 runs and a blown save”
George Sherill use to be awesome.
Sherill is not making this easy to watch
George Sherrill is trying to channel Don (“full pack”) Stackhouse.
1 down 2 more
“Lugo is still with Boston. I thought they traded him but I guess they cant find anyone to take him.”
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Boston can’t trade him. He’s all they have (along with Nick Green as the utility guy).
Nice pitch by George
Lugo Ks
Can always count on Lugo to strike out. Man on first one out, Ped and Youk
Compensation courtesy call by ump, there.
“its really amazing how fans go from wanting bruney back so bad to being disappointed that he’ll get a win in a game he blew a lead?…wow is that sad or what..”
When Bruney was on the DL, our bullpen was horrible. For the past few weeks, it has improved greatly. That makes Bruney less needed than before.
I still think Bruney can be a good reliever for us. I’d just like to see him pitch in the 7th inning (or even in deficits) for a little while longer until he proves trustworthy for the 8th.
2 more outs please. I would like a DP by the midget
Julio Lugo doing what he does best … next to committing errors.
Sherill gonna fawk it up
“George Sherill use to be awesome”
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he has an ERA right at 2.00 and hitters are .195 against him this season
Colorado is not going to be a factor for the Wild Card in about 2 more weeks…There is an least 4 NL teams way better than The Rockies….They went on that most unlikey streak just to wiggle within 3-4 games in contention….What goes up, always comes down…..Street will be on the move….Besides what happens if suddenly The Bombers need Hughes to go back in to the roatation….Overkill in the pen assures a deep run into the October nights….
Lugo called out on strikes & complains, announcer says ‘welcome to the club Julio’!!!
pedroia only has 2 homers?
Pedroia is a pest. Can’t stand that guy.
Erica,
While I DO agree with 1995 hurting a lot, I have nothing but respect for Griffey. He used to be my favorite non-Yankee player. Used to have a poster of him on my wall and everything. Ichiro…I have nothing against him, but he ALWAYS abuses us on the bases, and so I’d rather rumble with him. Plus, I can’t rumble with Griffey. A left jab would shatter his entire skeletal structure.
get the midget, beat the midget
Doris -
I was half listening. But Darling was on him about walking the pitcher and then for yelling at his team in the dugout. He said walking the pitcher was inexcusable.
And Santana also pitched in with a poor fielding play himself.
Watching Sherrill overthrow makes you realize how lucky Yankee fans are to have Rivera.
look at pedroias numbers vs. canos numbers…pretty funny that this guy was the mvp
Pedroia with a huge cut. Trying to win the game with one swing rather than trying to keep things going.
He’s not hitting for much power at all this year. The league may be onto how his power comes from pitches he can hit up in the zone.
2 down 1 more
one moreeeeeeeeeee
Midget pops out
The Mets are a disaster. The Phillies should be kicking themselves for not having a bigger lead by now.
This ballgame is in the refrigerator for the Orioles!
1 more out…leaves it up to the ugliest man in the world
Yes 1 More! Cmon
1 more Sherrill
One more! I hate the Orioles every other day of the year, but PLEASE close this out.
“he has an ERA right at 2.00 and hitters are .195 against him this season”
HE USE TO BE AWESOME !
Pedroia flies out to right
Pedroia flies out to right
nothing inside please.
Lugo = Sweet
Elfkin = Sweeter
Puke hopefully = Sweetest!!!
2 gone. come on one more.
Pedroia is great no doubt, but .290 2 homers, 34 rbis and he may start the allstar game at SS over Kinsler. Come on.
Just get Pukeilis out.
Please.
Keebler Elf flies out
grimaces in Sox dugout
at score or Youk’s face?
“The Mets are a disaster. The Phillies should be kicking themselves for not having a bigger lead by now.”
ATL is going to take over that division.
“The Mets are a disaster. The Phillies should be kicking themselves for not having a bigger lead by now.”
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so true.
what a nasty pitch
Man, Sherril’s breaking stuff is just freakin’ SICK.
Youk is the biggest threat on that team (and 1 of 2 batting over 300).
nice to see the O’s fans behind home plate getting into it while the sox fans are just leaning back in their seat…bandwagoners. those o’s fans are really getting into it behind the plate
Donnie-
I respect Ichiro a lot. I don’t want you to fight him. But I can’t think of Griffey without flashing back to 14 year old Erica who begged her dad to let her stay up late to see Game 5 only to see Griffey score the winning run in extra innings. Still hurts. Can I take him out at the O’Neill banner???
Papelbon’s eyes are teared up.
can’t wait to see him crying even more!!
1 more strike
Youk looks like he could be a member of the KKK.
He hit him lol
….
….
life’s tough youk.
Oh, for the love of…
Youk started his swing and got him. How does he get on base for that??
ugggh hits him on a 1-2 count. damn
TMZ June 30th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Youk looks like he could be a member of the KKK.
…
lmao
PUKE HBP
Kee-rap.
Okay, hopefully Green = Sweetest
ugh
drilled Youk just about his right elbow on the forearm
he’s in some pain but looks ok
throws his arm right into the pitch while he swung….
The pitch that hit Youk was literally just off the plate….ridiculous
its up to Jason Bay
“Youk looks like he could be a member of the KKK.”
Please lets not take this overboard
“Youk looks like he could be a member of the KKK.”
Please lets not take this overboard
GEORGE SHERILL USE TO BE AWESOME !
NOW the boston fans are at least standing. good to see
man the o’s fans are getting loud.
Bay is down to a .268 avg, come on drop that average a bit lower
Wonder when Yuke last took a bath???
Bay is down to .268
let’s make it .267
John,
you beat me to it
brandon shouldn’t it be…
“used to be awesome” ? no?
Bay is dangerous. He is in a contract year. Contract year guys get big hits.
“Papelbon’s eyes are teared up.
can’t wait to see him crying even more!!”
Yeah, cry me a River Dance.
O’s pull this off and I will sit up until the wee hours watching the rewind of this game!!!
Gee, I can’t wait to hear what Joey has to say about taking Hughesy out for Bruney
Yes Baltimore wins!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
OS win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great night for baseball! Phils lose, Mets lose, Sox lose, YANKEES WIN!
EPIC!!!
EPIC!!!
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sit down Bay
the most miserable loss of the season for Boston
I LOVE IT
Listening to the game on GameDay Audio. The O’s announcers make me long for Sterling
It is complete!! Greatest night to be a Yankee fan!!
In a word – hilarious.
O’s
Wow they did the same thing back in 1956 to Boston
I need to find a blank tape – this NESN post game cry fest ahead will get me through some tough cold winter months.
Yes!!!!!!
Boston loses a game that the avg teams loses maybe once every 20 years….
Not lots better than watching Bay be the final whiff.
I’m tired of his act too.
NICE JOB SUX!!!!
The Red Sox collapse
while the Yankees surge to win
the Hinske effect
Thank you Baltimore. We appreciate your efforts.
YES !!!!!!!
It’s so funny Jay Bay is a terrible hitter when batting 4th over his career, this year like .240. If you notice even when guys were struggling they wouldn’t slot him there, rather put Youk. He has a mental block there, like Cano batting 5th
GEORGE SHERILL IS SOMEWHAT AWESOME !!!
How are so many of you able to watch this Sox game?
Its not on TV in the NYC area is it?
I hope that sends Boston into a tailspin
Whew. I’m gonna go throw up now.
Sweet….Boston loses!!!
LMAO biggest comeback for Os since 1956 & Pimplebutt takes the loss…
Pepitone
June 30th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
This ballgame is in the refrigerator for the Orioles!
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Yes, thank you, thank you, oh, you’re too kind, no, you shouldn’t have, thank you. I know, I try to stay humble.
Boston is Not as good as their record indicates…Just cannot say that enought….
Erica,
::sigh::
Okay, the thought of 14 year old Erica breaks my heart, because 14 year old Donnie cursed and kicked things as well, knowing that he’d never get to see Mattingly win a World Series, and we’d just lost our best shot at it. Given that I can relate, I suppose I can fight Junior for your honor. You can come with, and hold his arms while I beat him mercilessly.
“O’s pull this off and I will sit up until the wee hours watching the rewind of this game!!!”
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I have to at least watch the NESN postgame.
even though I promised myself I’d go to sleep by 12
Johnny D.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Great night for baseball! Phils lose, Mets lose, Sox lose, YANKEES WIN!
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I guess I don’t get this Mets stuff. They are too insignificant to trouble about. I am happy for Willie that his team beat them, though.
Thank you Baltimore. Especially Nick Marakis. Not only are you easy on the eyes but you are amazing. Also good game Yanks! Great night all around!
“Youk looks like he could be a member of the KKK.”
Considering Youk is Jewish, that is unbelievably offensive.
Boston Dave, you KNOW we can’t miss the Sux postgame!!!!!
Wow, lol………the only thing that could calm me down, lol. Great job O’s – and I apologize to Sherrill.
Ugh- here comes Joe
Love MLB Extra Innings on Directv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is that 6 straight wins for the hottest team in baseball?
O’s won?! Holy smokes, just got in and catching up…LOL! staying up for Baseball Tonight for sure.
Who blew it? Tell me it was Papelbum.
Actually should rephrase that, Bay is a considerably better hitter batting 5th over his career, worse cleanup and even worse when batting third
ok add Tampa to that… they’ve won 7 straight
the pain in youk’s wrist
can only pale against the
pain in his mirror
Bay strikes out! BlowSox meltdown complete!!
Bay strikes out! BlowSox meltdown complete!!
Wow. Sox blow a 10-1 lead.
Let’s hope the sting of that lingers for a while.
Donnie – Will Meet Ken Griffey Jr. Under the O’Neill Banner
June 30th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Erica,
::sigh::
Okay, the thought of 14 year old Erica breaks my heart, because 14 year old Donnie cursed and kicked things as well, knowing that he’d never get to see Mattingly win a World Series, and we’d just lost our best shot at it. Given that I can relate, I suppose I can fight Junior for your honor. You can come with, and hold his arms while I beat him mercilessly.
****
Thank you so much Donnie. I will be there. Sounds like a plan
I don’t blame you guys for getting a kick out of this.
The fact is that every team has a few of those meltdown games each season.
I don’t think this will put the Sox into a tailspin.
The greatest bullpen known to man blows a 9-run lead against a last place team. People rejoice. Whenever the Yankees have a bad loss, no one can never say, well Boston never loses a game like this. Well, tonight Boston blew a 10-1 lead in the 7th inning. They lose bad games too folks.
you call a team that blows a 10-1 lead best team in baseball i dont think so… so far both Rays and Redsox blow a hugh lead
Pete Gammons on suicide watch….
““Youk looks like he could be a member of the KKK.”
Considering Youk is Jewish, that is unbelievably offensive.”
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probably not allowed per Pete’s posting guidelines…
take a mulligan on that one
It was a team effort.
Sox were up 10-1 and Masterson, Delcarmen, Okajima, Saito, and Papelbon combined to cough up 10 runs in 2 innings.
YES post-game Booth Report with Lorenz, Singleton, Kay, and O’Neil:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/620721692a82401f/
7MB (High Quality)
“Boston is Not as good as their record indicates…Just cannot say that enought….”
I’m sure I get a big tip of your cap since I have ALWAYS said that…
Would it be mean to leave snarky messages on facebook to my sox friends?
Looks like I missed two good games.
New high water mark and only 2 GB of Boston.
Nice.
“the Hinske effect”
Effect?
Or is it the Curse of EH?
What would twitter say?
“I don’t blame you guys for getting a kick out of this.
The fact is that every team has a few of those meltdown games each season.
I don’t think this will put the Sox into a tailspin.”
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ray,
I don’t think so either… however -
the Sox bullpen was amazing for the first half. It would not surprise me if they recede a little bit.
I think Papelbon could very well tire a bit late in the season. He’s getting results, for the most part, but his pitch counts are higher than normal.
I’d be surprised, though impressed, if the Sox pen continues to lead MLB the rest of the way.
Ray, you know that is no offense to you as a person. It is totally the love of the rivalry speaking here!
Where are Hunter Jones and Micheal Bowden when you need them.
Yanks 12 over. New high water mark.
Hughesy, cervy. Terrible nick names
Shut up Joe, just shut up – Bruney’s our 8th inning guy, never a thought to keep Phil in. Bruney needs to get going……….OK Joe, piss games away…….and what about Phil’s innings?
I hate Joe right now, I really do
Red Sox HOF pen blew a 10-1 lead to the lowly O’s. Good Times!
It’s important to reflect on tonight’s game in Baltimore to those people who continue to offer the notion that Boston never gives games away and they ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS beat teams they are supposed to beat.
Boston is far from invincible. They have issues like every other team in the majors.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
June 30th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
“Boston is Not as good as their record indicates…Just cannot say that enought….”
I’m sure I get a big tip of your cap since I have ALWAYS said that…
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I agree with this completely. Not to drudge up bad memories, but Boston beat the Yankees 8 times so far this season, and the Yankees are only 2.5 back. Kind of makes you wonder what the standings would look like if the Yanks won a few of those.
Congrats on the 1st game, Yank fans.
Told ya Brandon wasn’t the same pitcher you saw last September. Unfortunately for the M’s, Sean White wasn’t the pitcher he’s been most of this season (although this was his first time pitching in a week – been out w/forearm stiffness).
And, we miss Adrian already.
Here’s a good game tomorrow …
hoping there’s a rubber game on Thursday.
~Rosy
“Sox were up 10-1 and Masterson, Delcarmen, Okajima, Saito, and Papelbon combined to cough up 10 runs in 2 innings.”
They all sensed that Eric Hinske was returning to the AL East.
Gammons would be ready to start glowing about Lars Anderson except the kid’s hitting .258 in AA with 8 homers for the power monster he’s supposed to be. But let’s rip on AJax and his .320 BA in AAA with 3 homers and all the other stats he’s piled up. Heck, Monetro has 3 homers in AA already, is it the same league as they salty nuts, sorry sea dogs?
Saito took the loss…Papelbon had the blown save. Papelbon didn’t have any runs on his record…but it only matters that it was a Boston loss.
“Would it be mean to leave snarky messages on facebook to my sox friends”
It would be unforgiveable NOT to!
NYY626
June 30th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Would it be mean to leave snarky messages on facebook to my sox friends?
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I don’t see anything wrong with that.
But I am starting to pity my Mets fan friends. I don’t like that
When does Markakis hit free agency?
The big difference between the Yankees and the Sawx is that the Yankees are 0-8 against them this year.
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6207230045a43aab/
3MB (High Quality)
“Boston is Not as good as their record indicates…Just cannot say that enought….”
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they are a very good team.
Beckett and Lester are MUCH better than they were for the first 40 games of the season.
I personally think the Yanks win the division, so don’t get me wrong, but Boston has to be in the discussion as one of the best teams in baseball.
Boston may be as good as their record. I think it’s more a case of the Yankees being better than their record.
Their pitching is really starting to turn it on. CC and AJ leading the way.
Hughes bolstering the pen, which cost them a few games if not more.
Wang finally back and improving. Joba is still a formidable starter.
Oh… and they didn’t have ARod for a long time.
The Yanks are better than their record indicates.
“When does Markakis hit free agency?”
I’d love to have that kid in RF.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
June 30th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
“Ray, you know that is no offense to you as a person. It is totally the love of the rivalry speaking here!”
Not a problem at all trisha.
I know sometimes Sox fans only show up here when things are in their favor, so I didn’t want to be like that.
I am liking Joba’s long sideburns
“Kind of makes you wonder what the standings would look like if the Yanks won a few of those.”
Or it kind of makes you wonder what will happen if Boston doesn’t continue to dominate the head to head over the remaining 11 games?
Say the head to head match up corrects its trend while the two teams keep playing the same way against other competition?
Betsy,
Really, exhale. Deep breaths. He’s not going to call out a guy who is trying as hard as he can. Just relax.
Hughes will be in the 8th inning soon enough.
You get too caught in what people say to the media.
Just relax and take in a good night.
“I know sometimes Sox fans only show up here when things are in their favor, so I didn’t want to be like that.”
Ray, thats what makes you a decent guy
Sox pen is good, have lots of live arms. Just was hoping so bad they would have traded Penny or Saito or done something stupid. They will need all those arms this year I think. Smoltz is great but off surgery and old. Dice K is done. Penny will not keep up like this all year. Wakefield’s back goes out every year now. Spread yourself thin and then you crumble if your injury happens to Paps, Lester or Beckett. And don’t want to hear about Bucholz or Bowden, both have a lot to prove. Masterson is always a great guy to have like Aceves, but he has been figured out a bit now, got crushed tonight. Oki and the delivery is not the same. Delcarmen having a great year as well as Ramirez. Saito blew it, but if they move him that would just be plain dumb.
Okay -
Joba is now clean-shaven. There must definitely be something going on about letting the starting pitcher stay away from the razor before the game.
Gammons: “Bartender, give me another Tanqueray and Red Sox, er, I mean tonic.”
Oh, Betsy. Take a chill pill.
They do have to get Bruney right. Let’s not forget how good this guy was before he went down with that elbow injury.
The guy was unhittable. The guy retired something like 20 hitters in a row earlier this year with 13 K’s or some ridiculous number.
He hasn’t pitched much at all. He’s got to be rusty. I think CB is right on that. He needs to come in and get his mojo back in non-pressure situations.
The guy was throwing gas and nobody could hit him early this season. He was outstanding last season too.
They need to get him right. No need to walk the plank because they picked him up and won the game. That’s what good teams do.
Ever since I saw Markakis and that swing, he just reminds me of Paul O’Neil from athletic ability, the arm in the OF, etc. I think he is that talent and as close as a comparison to Paulie as anyone I have seen.
Al denying rest helps him. GI Joe make sure you rest him ever 5 or 6 days.
“Or it kind of makes you wonder what will happen if Boston doesn’t continue to dominate the head to head over the remaining 11 games?
Say the head to head match up corrects its trend while the two teams keep playing the same way against other competition?”
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exactly! bring it on.
on that note, goodnight everyone.
there will be sweet dreams tonight.
Erica
But I am starting to pity my Mets fan friends. I don’t like that
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My Grandpa is a die hard Mets fan, so I cant really root against them unless they’re playing the yanks. Plus, I hate Boston way too much to truly hate any other team
“Boston is Not as good as their record indicates…Just cannot say that enought….”
that is because we are 0-8 against the Redsox
a good point, CB
Sox Twit sees many curses
Honeymoon over
Glad Joba is comfortable enough to dispense with the phony deference.
He’s a cocky, confident kid and he should embrace it.
Joba is so bad in the postgame interviews. Always says the same thing, never really fully takes responsibility. Not sure how I feel about that.
Betsy has an affinity for Phil Hughes like something I’ve never seen before. Could she really be Phil’s mom posting?
Nick in SF has taken his posts to a new level. Brilliant.
ray (sox fan)
June 30th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
I don’t blame you guys for getting a kick out of this.
The fact is that every team has a few of those meltdown games each season.
I don’t think this will put the Sox into a tailspin.
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Ray, you nailed it. every team has these games. NYY’s had a few of these over the last couple of years, and against lesser offensive lineups than Baltimore. They won’t win much this year, but, damned, they can break your heart at the most inopportune times. That offense with Toronto’s pitching could be leading the AL East right now.
How far did Alex’s HR go?
the odds of winning MegaMillions is better than that troll Mo’sCutter showing up here tonight.
NYY626-
Its not that I dislike the Mets. I dislike Mets fans. The last few years when the Yanks struggle in the beginning, they have been very arrogant. I would rather my team struggle in the beginning of the season and get “righted” than break my heart on the last day of the season.
Doreen
Clemens always pitch scruffy and shaved before the postgame interviews. Then Pettitte did it. Now Joba.
Yankee tradition handed down to the next generation.
Markakis is the most underrated player in baseball. I just wish the Yankees could have had some scout in their system that figured out how good he was before he made it to the bigs. He would be a legend patrolling right field for the Yankees. When is his contract up?
“Al denying rest helps him. GI Joe make sure you rest him ever 5 or 6 days.”
Al denying rest helps him. GI Joe make sure you rest him *every* 5 or 6 days. Kate make sure you do your end of the job.
Can’t pity the Mets fans too much, I know enough that root for the Sox constantly which is something I will never get. I don’t root for the Phillies every night. Why would I care? I’d actually love to see a subway series again and send them home cryng once more. The Interleague sweep just doesn’t do it for me.
Something does look wrong with Santana, velocity down, control is either off or he knows something is up and being too fine, ks are down over his last games. Simply curshing my NL fantasy team so I should know
Jeter’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/620724741f23f9e9/
1MB (High Quality)
lol at Matsui’s family going crazy in the press boxes
“the odds of winning MegaMillions is better than that troll Mo’sCutter showing up here tonight.”
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LOL!
Does anyone else find it strange that Matsui’s translator isn’t Japanese?
Joba’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6207252334c394e1/
1MB (High Quality)
“I know sometimes Sox fans only show up here when things are in their favor, so I didn’t want to be like that.”
You’ve never been like that. I do miss Mo’sflatcutter though, telling us the Yankees should be imitating everything about the Red Sox!
I admit I would love to see what is happening on SOSH!
Wild night for my nephew in his first game for West Virginia.
Throws out 2 runners trying to steal….
Makes a play at the plate on a guy who tried to run him over and he was an immoveable object for the out.
Catches his first pro shutout. 110 pitches thrown, he called all the ptiches, 3 shakeoffs.
He gets the GW hit.
So far, after 5 games (counting the 4 State College games), he has 5 hits, 3 RBI, 2 GW RBI and his teams are 4-1.
He’s thrown out 4-7 guys on the bases.
Kid is livin’ the dream.
“Ray, you nailed it. every team has these games. NYY’s had a few of these over the last couple of years, and against lesser offensive lineups than Baltimore. They won’t win much this year, but, damned, they can break your heart at the most inopportune times. That offense with Toronto’s pitching could be leading the AL East right now.”
Yankees has never blowen a 9 run lead in the past 2 years
“How far did Alex’s HR go?”
IDK but it sure had hangtime.
Nick,
I’m telling you. The curse of EH. That’s what it’s all about.
Has to be EH. And a curse.
He is in transit to the game. At the same time one of John Henry reliever after another runs off the mound.
Coincidence?
Or curse?
“I just wish the Yankees could have had some scout in their system that figured out how good he was before he made it to the bigs.”
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I believe Markakis was always a top prospect with Baltimore.
Perhaps the equivalent of trading away AJax and Montero.
Not easy to pry a guy like that away.
Welecome back Tricia……JD Drew is due for his mid-season trip to the DL…..BoSox do have a good team, it’s just not good or lacking weakness’s that the talking heads would have you believe…
Orioles drafted Markakis 7th overall in 2003
Erica – newly OPPC
June 30th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
“I know sometimes Sox fans only show up here when things are in their favor, so I didn’t want to be like that.”
Ray, thats what makes you a decent guy
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Ray’s not really “a decent guy”. He only comes here to the LOHUD Bar and Grill to get the table scraps for his attack poodle, FiFi.
SJ and GF – I do need to calm down, I admit. Just to clarify – I was annoyed mid-inning by Bruney, but I’m not angry at him anymore. I like him – I think he’s a very important part of the pen and I agree that he needs to be righted. That said, Phil was dominating and had thrown very few pitches – there really was no reason to take him out. He does need his innings – we’ve discussed the innings issue before, and I agree, but these 1 inning stints aren’t going to do. When the opportunity arises, Phil needs to pitch multiple innings.
Still, it was a very good evening…..
Markakis is locked up until 2015 so you won’t see him anytime soon, plus he was a first rounder I believe and well before the Yankees could even sniff at him. Think he was pick #7
Biggest comeback in Baltimore history.
“I know sometimes Sox fans only show up here when things are in their favor, so I didn’t want to be like that.”
You never have to prove your worth here. Your appearance is commendable.
Beyond that, all I can say is …..nanny-nanny poo poo!
SJ,
Congrats. What a game for Tony. He could move very fast in that system (hopefully not too fast…).
Jason Castro is already in AA with Houston.
“He only comes here to the LOHUD Bar and Grill to get the table scraps for his attack poodle, FiFi.”
GB7-
I didn’t know there was food here?!?!?! I make an amazing spinach dip I can bring to the party
Good for Tony SJ
Pel-thank you for the audio links
Miggs, I just thought it was a terrible move, but I would feel the same way if it wasn’t Phil. Oh well – the poor horse has been beaten to death and should be buried at this point.
SJ44 July 1st, 2009 at 12:03 am
Kid is livin’ the dream.
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And so is his uncle.
Gotta be an unbelievable thrill for your family. I can’t even imagine what that is like.
Congrats.
Wow pete- antagonizing bruney- he did not look happy…got to ask the question though, thats why we love you Pete-
Thought bruney looked mad but then composed himself and gave a pretty good answer-
“Markakis is locked up until 2015 so you won’t see him anytime soon, plus he was a first rounder I believe and well before the Yankees could even sniff at him. Think he was pick #7″
That was a great pick. Slade sign your damn contract
Thanks, Pel! And way to go Lil SJ!
SJ44, Tony will be playing in PCN by September 2011
SJ…great to hear it, I guess Pit can do something right.
The quicker he gets to the bigs the quicker Pit will move him.
I’m going uo to Cape Cod for a long weekend on Thurs. it is nice to have This Sox loss to bring up in conversation.
It can get pretty bad. I really wish Papi was still slumping.
C
July 1st, 2009 at 12:03 am
“Ray, you nailed it. every team has these games. NYY’s had a few of these over the last couple of years, and against lesser offensive lineups than Baltimore. They won’t win much this year, but, damned, they can break your heart at the most inopportune times. That offense with Toronto’s pitching could be leading the AL East right now.”
Yankees has never blowen a 9 run lead in the past 2 years
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Except for Pettitte blowing an 8 run inning last year. Not similar at all.
“Perhaps the equivalent of trading away AJax and Montero. ”
Markakis was always a stud. Back to college. He was fantastic. Not only in the field but also on the mound. He had a mid 90′s fastball (which you can on the ropes he throws from RF).
He is a complete player. Offense, defense, running. He could be one of the elite RF in the AL for a long time.
Al’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62072744adec6001/
1MB (High Quality)
Erica, I totally agree that Mets fans can be annoying, but I went to college in Boston and was bombarded by “Red Sox Nation” bandwagon fans. No question I rather deal with Mets fans.
Ok I need to go to sleep or I will not be able to wake up tomorrow. Thank God this is a short work week! Goodnight all.
CB,
The Pirates have told me their goal is to fast track him.
They are being very aggressive with their promotions.
I think a realistic goal is if he can be in Altoona (AA) at this time next year.
Gary Green, his manager at WVA, was really impressed with him tonight. He said, “Are you sure this is only the fifth game you ever called”?
He was really pumped up about catching a shutout. More excited about that than the GW hit.
I think his bat is much better than people think. He will hit. How well he hits will determine how fast he moves because defensively, there aren’t many catchers in the minors better than he is.
Correction: Except for Pettitte blowing an 8 run lead last year. Not similar at all.
Erica,
His translator’s half-Japanese. His father is a foreign born sumo wrestler.
Re: Hughes & Bruney. Just flip their roles.
We knew there was a chance we wouldn’t get pre-injury Bruney.
But if you’re going to use Phil like a reliever, put him where he belongs. Right in front of mo.
SJ44
When he gets his Major league time in, Are you gonna convince him to come play for the Yankees
Missed the game for a work dinner – BUT…they were playing the Red Sox game at the bar and I was with people from boston…fun times
“Ray’s not really “a decent guy”. He only comes here to the LOHUD Bar and Grill to get the table scraps for his attack poodle, FiFi.”
Now that is just plain cold and harsh even by GB7 standards!
Here my team just choked up a major hairball and you are kicking me when I down.
That’s ok…you know what they say about payback GB. I still think one of these days I will steal all your Coors Lite and replace them with Samuel Adams.
I may call it night guys. Glad some of you will sleep good tonight!
CB where do you think Heathcott will project comparing thier college careers.
I am going to bed too. Very busy day tomorrow to be capped off by my new Yankee Stadium debut!!!!!!
Happy game viewing. Let’s Go Yankees!!!
Good night Yankee folk!
SJ, how exciting for Tony – congrats to him. He’s got a lot of fans on this board who are eagerly following his progress. When he makes the majors, this board is going to blow up..
so Baseball Tonight did the Yankee game recap in less than one minute…are you kidding me – they have done every other game longer…
pat -
Thanks for that info. I can now end this silly obsession I’ve developed.
Bruney didn’t pitch well, but he sure looks better with a clean upper lip.
Boy, some guys sure get defensive in the post-game, huh? Bruney and Joba, for instance. it’s okay. It can’t be easy to stand there and answer questions after less-than-stellar performances.
Erica – newly OPPC
July 1st, 2009 at 12:06 am
“He only comes here to the LOHUD Bar and Grill to get the table scraps for his attack poodle, FiFi.”
GB7-
I didn’t know there was food here?!?!?! I make an amazing spinach dip I can bring to the party
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Ray….errrr…..FiFi will love the kibbles and spinach dip.
No twitter update from John Henry tonight?
Better than he is *defensively*. Sorry for the typo.
I wonder what John Henry will Tweet tonight? Clown.
These comments scare me. People realize it’s 162 games a year, right? And we did win tonight. The number of second guesses, overreactions and giving up on the guys on the team makes me sick to be a Yankee fan.
Guess what? Hinskes nothing better then a bench player either. He’s not going to help that much. Swisher is a better player. Relax. Please.
SJ,
One of the things I’ve been quite struck by with all the trades the Bucs have made the past two years is how prospect starved the system and the fan base has been.
They were just such a disaster for so long in terms of player development (especially pitching…)
Hopefully the current regime there can turn it around.
But for a young player like Tony it’s a phenomenal opportunity.
Not only could he move fast he could become a very special guy to that fan base.
To see one of their own kids get drafted, developed and contribute at the major league level will be a big deal for the Pirate’s organization and fan base.
It’s just a great opportunity – especially for a catcher with strong skills behind the plate.
“I wonder what John Henry will Tweet tonight? Clown.”
I got married ?
“where do you think Heathcott will project comparing thier college careers.”
Brandon,
What are you referring to? Heathcott better not be going to college!
Are you referring to a comparison between markakis and heathcott?
“I wonder what John Henry will Tweet tonight? Clown.”
I got married ?….and did I tell you she is thirty years younger than me.
Hideki’s YES post-game reaction (non-japanese edited):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/620729675344773b/
1MB (High Quality)
Betsy if you read my earlier posts you know I was against the move also, I was just messing with you. I know you love Phil.
I guess Joe has to see what he has in Bruney. Which hopefully is a 7th inning guy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07.....1&hpw
As long as Phil Hughes stays in the bullpen, he is not building innings for his future role as a starter. But there are no plans for him to return to the minors. “I can’t look Mariano Rivera in the face and say, ‘I’m going to weaken your bullpen right now for the future,’” Cashman said. Helping Hughes’s case to stay is the veteran Sergio Mitre, who is 2-0 with a 2.88 E.R.A. in four starts for Class AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Having Mitre for rotation insurance lessens the need for Hughes to fill that role.
“I got married ?….and did I tell you she is thirty years younger than me.”
Are mail-order brides tax deductible?
How does the whole infield forget how many out there are?
Bruney’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6207302439c5a033/
2MB (High Quality)
Tried this 4 times now…
As long as Phil Hughes stays in the bullpen, he is not building innings for his future role as a starter. But there are no plans for him to return to the minors. “I can’t look Mariano Rivera in the face and say, ‘I’m going to weaken your bullpen right now for the future,’” Cashman said. Helping Hughes’s case to stay is the veteran Sergio Mitre, who is 2-0 with a 2.88 E.R.A. in four starts for Class AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Having Mitre for rotation insurance lessens the need for Hughes to fill that role.
“Are you referring to a comparison between markakis and heathcott?”
Yes CB. And no I know that he better not go to college.
SJ… COngrats on your nephew… The Pirates seem to be running in place with no plan…why trade for milledge? They will trade Sanchez soon. McCutcheon looks really good..
Ray, I tend to sleep well whether the Yanks win or lose because I always have confidence that they will ultimately get the job done.
I will admit though that the one game that kept me up was the one where Ellsbury stole home against Andy. I had a stomach ache over that one.
Joba’s post game interviews are like a 15 year old talking to the media.
I hope Joba get’s it else that would be a shame all that talent wasted…
CB,
Slowly but surely, they have some pieces in the system.
Alvarez is in AA now. Brad Lincoln, their first round pick of a couple of years ago is in AAA. He’s got a great arm and projects to be a front of the rotation starter.
McCutcheon is already in the bigs and he is a stud CF.
Ross Ohlendorf and Zach Duke have thrown well for them so far this year.
The kid who pitched tonight for WVA, Rudy Owens, is a 21 year old LH with a 9-1 record and 1.91 ERA. He’s got a great future.
The fans have gotten so burned by the previous regime, I don’t know if they have the patience for another rebuilding job.
If they do, they have help on the way and some very good young talent.
Its a great chance for Tony because its a catching bare organization. Just gotta keep grinding and learning.
stuart July 1st, 2009 at 12:24 am
Joba’s post game interviews are like a 15 year old talking to the media.
I hope Joba get’s it else that would be a shame all that talent wasted…
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Joba will start figuring it out sooner or later.
People just have such unrealistic expectations for him that he’ll never meet.
Young pitchers have to take their lumps. It’s all part of the developmental process.
Joba still does it better than just about everyone else did at his age with such little experience.
People just don’t seem to understand that.
SJ, Check that , Tony will be playing at PNC Park by September 2011…
Mr. Henry is honeymooning in Africa and doing humanitarian work with Bishop Tutu on AIDS education. He brought a plane load full of Sox caps to hand out.
He also took time out to Tweet the following:
“Ridiculous press assertions about the reception = us giving out pictures & bobbleheads of ourselves!. We did stop for RonDogs tho- the best”
about 7 hours ago from TwitterBerry
Miggs, I know you were messing with me – I read your posts, glad to see you agreed with me. I definitely did not mean to imply that Joe should give up on Bruney…I vented, now it’s over (fortunately, because I think I gave myself an ulcer). The important thing is we won and gained a game on the Sox – I can focus on that now whereas earlier I did have a hard time.
The legendary ace pitcher, Jason Marquis shut down the mighty Dodgers on two hits, 0 runs and 0 walks on 86 pitches.
SJ,
Since we all know that it’s the catcher that controls the pitching, I’m tasking Tony with fixing Ian Snell, lol!
He can have until next year to work out the kinks with Gorzelany.
I’ve read very good things about Lincoln. McCutcheon from what I’ve seen of him looks very impressive.
They need Pedro to be what everyone expects him to be. He’s a big key obviously.
But things do seem to be turning around there. Which is very good to see. It’s such a proud franchise and the city has been through so much and is now showing signs of picking itself up.
Looking forward to following Tony and watching him become part of that renaissance.
anyone see Ohlendorf tonight? 7 innings and 0 runs against the Cubbies for his 7th win of the season. This kid is finding it in the last month and the Yankees have nothing to show for his trade.
I’ve always kind of liked the Bucs, I don’t know why. Maybe it’s because I have vague memories of the 1979 “We are Family” Stargell-led team, with their yellow and black striped caps (I was only 8 years old -not sure why I have such fond memories- I guess I loved the song, lol) or maybe it’s because I feel badly about those years they could never get past the Braves. I’m rooting for the Bucs….
brandon,
there’s really no comparison between Markakis and heathcott. I have no idea what markakis was coming out of high school but by the time he was drafted he was very good. He was the kind of guy who had not only a very high ceiling but also a pretty high floor.
He was very talented and a terrific prospect. It’s unfair to even try to compare heathcott to markakis.
CB,
The day he gets called up, I’m renting a suite at PNC Park and turning it into one big party!
I’ll get Pete a night off from the Yankees to blog live from it! lol
First things first though. I just want him to get through the next two months healthy and successful.
I’ve always kind of liked the Bucs, I don’t know why. Maybe it’s because I have vague memories of the 1979 “We are Family” Stargell-led team, with their yellow and black striped caps (I was only 8 years old -not sure why I have such fond memories- I guess I loved the song, lol) or maybe it’s because I feel badly about those years they could never get past the Braves. I’m rooting for the Bucs
I’ve always kind of liked the Pirates, I don’t know why. Maybe it’s because I have vague memories of the 1979 “We are Family” Stargell-led team, with their yellow and black striped caps (I was only 8 years old -not sure why I have such fond memories- I guess I loved the song, lol) or maybe it’s because I feel badly about those years they could never get past the Braves. I’m rooting for the Pirates….
SJ, here’s the post game write-up for the WV Power. Glowing words indeed for young Mr. Sanchez. Congratulations to you, him and your family.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....8;sid=t525
This is the most retarded Blog ever. Bruney is not going to be lights out every time out there is nobody who will be lights out everytime out. RELAX WE WON THE GAME AND PICKED UP A GAME BE HAPPY PEOPLE !