Comments on: Another snoozer for Joba

By: YankWatcher

YankWatcher — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:46:22 +0000

Joba hasn’t really been “good” (meaning that guy in the pen who could pitch in the high nineties and was so fired up all the time) since he hurt his arm last year.

I agree he is now a bore: an overweight, overrated bore who shakes off too many pitches from catchers who know a hell of a lot better than he does what’s going on. And worse than this, he is a bore who hits lots of opposing batters, which puts our guys at risk.

Look at the quiet, self assured way in which Phil Hughes has handled himself and the great job he is doing in a role he doesn’t really want, and compare him to this spoiled, supposed “prodigy.”

The Joba saga (which admittedly will be ongoing for years before resolved one way or another) would not be the first time that a “can’t miss, knock ‘em dead, future hall of fame, yadda yadda yadda” has not panned out the way the pundits predicted.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:41:44 +0000

Number of times Joba’s given up more than 3 runs this year:

Number of times Johan Santana’s given up more than 3 runs this year:

So he does not strike out 10+ guys a game…that’s what he needs to do to be a good starter now?

He’s a good #3 now. He’ll learn.

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He’ll learn what? My sole question is, why can’t he throw as hard as he did? 98 to 91 is a big drop. If he’s hurt, fix him. If he’s not, he won’t be a star pitcher

By: GGBG

GGBG — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:10:02 +0000

Number of times Joba’s given up more than 3 runs this year:

Number of times Johan Santana’s given up more than 3 runs this year:

So he does not strike out 10+ guys a game…that’s what he needs to do to be a good starter now?

He’s a good #3 now. He’ll learn.

By: NIv

NIv — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:03:19 +0000

I hate to say it… I am very puzzled by Joba. I’m a big fan of his. He is a solid starter and that great. He gives the team a chance to win, but definitely not the same guy when he was starting last year before his injury. The way he has been pitching has not gotten me very excited. Wheres the fireballer Joba express? Maybe after this year after he completes the season as a starter, Joba will take the training wheels off and be the pitcher we all want to see him be giving a steady diet of his plus plus fastball. I can’t believe i’m saying this but phil hughes has a better fastball than Joba as a starter this year.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:40:27 +0000

I don’t care how Joba interviews. i care how he pitches. Right now he is very average. I expected him to be dominant. If he is being coached to hold back to go more innings that is a mistake. He needs to go hard for as long as he can. If he is going hard, and this is all he has, then this is what he is. A serviceable starter that will not be a difference maker.

By: Al

Al — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:23:25 +0000

watching joba pitch use to be an event, it’s now a draaaagggggg!! Yanks are so obsessed with developing a stud ace that they are overlooking the fact that Phil Hughes is a better starter than Joba. Hughes is and will be a better starter than joba.

By: Jay Hirsch

Jay Hirsch — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:51:56 +0000

No matter how good your stuff is if you have no command you will be inconsistent. Joba looks like a deer in headlights on the mound. He is just throwing he has no idea how to pitch. The franchise has finally figured it out and needs to get back in the rotation. Give Joba some tough love and send him back to the minors for to learn to pitch. It did wonders for the melkman.

By: teddy

teddy — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:42:44 +0000

for joba to be an above average starter, he needs to let it fly. ain’t happening at 91

By: teddy

teddy — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:38:38 +0000

The fastball needs to be 93-96, with the filthy breaking stuff he has, in order for Joba to take the next step.

yep there sitting on his breaking now because he can’t throw by people

if joba wants to be a great starter , the rest of will take care of itself. he still atruggle at 93 to 96 at times , but thats ok

By: Chucky P

Chucky P — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:37:17 +0000

Did you forget that Hughes was GARBAGE in the rotation? Joba is at least 2 earned runs better per game starting. Hughes is getting the job done in the pen. Oh look he is hitting 96 on the gun…. imagine that, I am only going to pitch one or two innings and my velocity goes up 4-6 mph per fastball. Man, it’s like we’ve never seen this before….. The only guy Hughes may replace is Wang and if that happens it’s because we traded Wang to Philly.