Molina rehab update
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 05, 2009 
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Jose Molina was 0 for 3 today with two strikeouts. He played for Trenton in a 5-0 loss against New Britain and caught Jeremy Bleich (6 9 5 3 2 6).
Jose is 1 for 7 in three games, which really doesn’t matter much. What does is that he caught seven innings and apparently felt fine.
It appears he will be activated in Minnesota on Tuesday. Unless the Yankees have some trick up their sleeve, Francisco Cervelli will be sent down.
Cervelli will NOT be sent down. You heard it here first.
This is good news I guess.
I’ll certainly miss Cervelli but Molina handles the staff so well, and his defense is 2nd to none.
cervelli optioned, tomko dfa… call up molina n igawa/mitre
I agree. Cervelli NEEDS to stay in the Bronx. DFA Tomko. Despite his win yesterday, the Yanks really do not need a 12th pitcher. Actually, no team needs a 12th pitcher, but the managers are just too matchup oriented.
Read this – http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-the-bronx
Cervelli won’t be sent down? Why would the Yankees carry a third catcher in Cervelli so he could ride the bench?
Cervelli needs to catch every day. He did a nice job, but send him down.
We certainly needed Tomko yesterday unless you wanted Swisher to pitch.
Anybody else see this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezIcIdpHV9Q
Andy Roddick’s brother, John Roddick, picking his nose and eating his booger.
Cervelli needs to improve upon that batting average at Trenton and the experience here at the ML level will help him with that.
Cervelli’s going down, its not even worth arguing.
The only reason for him to stay would be if Posada couldn’t catch regularly and had to DH.
With Molina as the backup Cervelli won’t ever play. Not a good way to use a roster spot.
Not that I like Tomko, but we need a pitcher for games like that.
How can this possibly be considered a good move? Molina is a flat out joke. give me one thing he does better than Cervelli? Defense…no. Offense…not even close. Speed…Ha. It’s sucha joke how many awful decisions this organization can make. Sending Cervelli down to make room for Molina is dumber than sending down pena to make room for Ransom because apparently Ransom didn’t hit .190 and commit 50 errors when he is in the lineup. This is a disaster.
Tarheelyank
July 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Erica
It went something like — no Yankee fan should have to root for Youk.
Seconds later I was at the MLB site voting.
***
Oh yes, that definitely sounds like something I would say. But I think it was more like, “Please don’t make me have to root for Youk”
Good news on Molina – I’ll be very glad to have him back. I love Frankie, but he needs to play every day.
As to Damon, no way do the Yanks re-sign him. I thought a 1 year deal might be ok earlier, but he just can’t play the OF – even can of corn chances are adventures for him. He makes the pitchers have to throw extra pitches and he’s already cost the team at least one game. He’s really good guy and a terrific hitter (clutch, too) – I wish he wasn’t quite so bad in the OF because I’d love to have him back. Boy, it’s painful to have to part with players.
Repost-
Rebecca- small sample size? I would say pretty tiny sample size- Ace has been in the majors for 3 total months and thrown 60 innings, also was in the minors to start this year- i like him too- but it just goes to show you how little Yankee fans think of flexibility that Mendoza gave us year after year and appreciate his contributions-
morgan said scot feldmans cutter is like mariano’s lol
LOL
Pel
By the way, it’s a huge insult to Mike Mussina that Wakefield somehow made the ASG. Ridiculous.
Sergio Mitre on Thursday baby!
Interersting that Chad jennings says Mitre is scheduled to start Tuesday for Scranton.
That would kind of make it difficult for him to start Thursday in Minnesota huh?
I wonder who they’re going to throw in that Thursday game. I can honestly say I have no clue.
What’s the story with Sergio Mitre? Anybody?
I also want to point out to everyone that I was on vacation from work all week since Friday June 26th and in that time, the Yankees have gone 8-1 an .889 winning percentage. Obviously, this means my job causes the Yankees to lose more games.
Can someone tell the Steinbrenners this and have them put me on payroll??
Cervelli goes down to AAA because he is a legit prospect and needs to play every day.
You can’t send Montero down w/o losing him.
And you don’t want Cash as your 3rd stringer again.
Jeremy Bleich
6.0 IP 9 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 K’s
GO-FO: 8-3
caught by Molina, BTW Corona played the part of Cody Ransom today.
Rebecca, from prev. thread-What novels do you have published?
Erica
Thats it!
Tex needs to come on this blog and thank you! Pete make it happen.
“I wonder who they’re going to throw in that Thursday game. I can honestly say I have no clue.”
Nova or McAllister.
GreenBeret7
July 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
jennifer
July 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
GreenBeret7
What team is that?
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I guess it would have been less confusing if I had mentioned Tampa, huh?
I like to see people reading between the lines. Just to see if they’re as smart as I am.
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As I was typing this, A Tampa runner was doubled off of first base twice in two innings on infield liners. One to 2nd and 1 to 3rd base. Stupid base running.
“July 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Rebecca, from prev. thread-What novels do you have published?”
AHAHAHAHAH. I wish. Haven’t published any yet.
I have completed one manuscript and am more than halfway through a second.
I did make the final round of a short story contest earlier this year, though. That was fun. (I was one of about 70 finalists out of ~450 entries). Nothing huge, but still a lot of fun.
Someday I’ll get published. Just not today.
Mitre:
Who seems to be Thursday starter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Mitre
If he bombs, they may give Aceves a shot post ASG.
That leaves a big hole in the pen. Big hole.
Brandon-
I am not speaking to you until you stop stealing my line.
Or give GB7 back his raincoat
Tarheelyank
July 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Erica
Thats it!
Tex needs to come on this blog and thank you! Pete make it happen.
***
Awesome. Thank you. I appreciate that. Its always nice to hear someone pays attention to me
So I was at the game today and the strangest thing happened. The person in front of me had a switchblade in her purse. And they let her keep it and enter the stadium. My mother had a bottle of water and they instantly made her throw it out. I just thought it was pretty funny that you can get into the stadium with a weapon, but god forbid you don’t pay for a drink
Erica GB7 doesn’t have a raincoat worth me stealing.
And *clears throat*
“I’m The Brandon, And I’m Awesome !!!”
Ramey-Actually that’s pretty horrible.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
I can honestly say I have no clue.”
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I’ve been telling you that for a year and a half.
“Did I read earlier that you think Aceves is a better pitcher than Brad Penny? Really? Resume? Please advise..”
dennis,
I’m not sure how relevant Brad Pennys resume is anymore after all of those injuries. He’s not even remotely the pitcher he was with the dodgers. So I don’t think you can generalize from his past body of work much. To assess him you have to look at what he is now and what Aceves is now.
I haven’t been that impressed with Penny. He’s been ok. Better recently. Fine for a typical fifth starter. He just doesn’t throw many innings. Again, this was a guy that the public was told would be the Red Sox AJ Burnett this year.
And right now, I think Aceves is a better pitcher. I do. Not better than Brad Penny all star from a few years ago. But Brad Penny 2009 – yes, I do.
Aceves throws 4 pitches with tremendous command. He knows how to pitch. I think Penny is still trying to figure out how to pitch in this next phase of his career.
Penny’s starting and Aceves is in the pen. But Aceves has thrown 36 innings which for a reliever isn’t that small a sample.
Across the board all of Aceves indices of performance are much better than Penny’s – not a little better – much better. ERA, FIP, K/9, BB/9, etc. Aceves is striking out more hitters than Penny. And i can guarantee you it’s not because Aceves is “emptying the tank” out of the pen. Aceves has a WHIP of 1.0. Penny 1.5. Penny’s numbers aren’t remotely close to as good as Aceves’s. It’s not even close. And IMO that is not being drive by Aceves being in the pen.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
I am not sure what novels she has published, but she does a great job on her blog. Click on her name.
Wait Til They Come:
I’m unpublished as of yet. There’s the minor detail of needing to, uh, finish a manuscript first =P
(I’ve finished one, but am not looking to publish that)
-Molina, yes.
-Keeping Cervelli in lieu of a pitcher, no.
-Aceves to cover for Wang is a good compromise. I don’t know much about Mitre except he doesn’t know you can’t trust GBC and that he’s no Ace.
-Sorry, but no thanks to Damon. I appreciate each and every homerun he’s hit for us, but his defense is bad and getting worse.
Brandon-
I am still not speaking to you. (You know, after this post
– and that is not just an emoticon, that is my actual face)
It absolutely baffled me. They let this cute blonde into the game when she has a switchblade and my little 4’10 mother has to throw away her bottle of water and the guy gave her attitude. You never mess with a little italian woman in her 50′s, I certainly learned that much. My mama doesn’t need no switchblade haha
“switchblade in her purse. And they let her keep it and enter the stadium. My mother had a bottle of water and they instantly made her throw it out”
Sounds like the hilarious metal detector scene in Airplane! with Leslie Nielsen.
Ramey-I know what you mean about Italian women. I know a few.
“Molina is a flat out joke. give me one thing he does better than Cervelli?”
Walkoff HBP.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Erica GB7 doesn’t have a raincoat worth me stealing.
And *clears throat*
“I’m The Brandon, And I’m Awesome !!!”
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You didn’t steal it. You borrowed it…the clear knee length one with yellow, blue and pink butterflies. You said that it would go well with your red vinyl rainboots when you went partying in The Village.
“Sounds like the hilarious metal detector scene in Airplane! with Leslie Nielsen.”
It was actually very reminiscent of that!
Aceves could get a shot at starting Thurs, he could go 5 inns. Maybe today was the beginning of him getting stretched out.
“Walkoff HBP”
That is by far one of my favorite game enders ever. If you can’t hit the ball, just let the ball hit you. LOL
Wait till they come:
I keep trying to respond to you, but the blog doesn’t want me to post.
Rebecca-
you must be saying something that is triggering the filter
Jose makes history better than Cervelli. Last homerun in OYS.
Nick in SF-I don’t know. Cervelli could have mesmerized the umpire with his eyes and then used his charming wit to convince him that all those pitches he missed (while hynotized by Cisco’s eyes) were not strikes.
Just an idea.
BOOO BOOO BOOO..baad call by the yankees! Keep CERVELLI!
Cervelli neeeeeds to stay! He has so much energy an can actually hit, is faster, and is just as good on defense.
There is NO upside in having molina, trade him for a bad of doughnuts!
Rebecca-Erica is probably right. Very odd.
New topic/debate-
Did everyone notice the run production out of the #5 spot in the lineup today??
Erica
I’m AWESOME !
And that face won’t help you get hitched one day.
GB7 that wasn’t my quote.
Tampa Bay’s defense has not been that great recently.
Just tonight in the Sunday Night game they’ve made a number of bad plays, throws, decisions.
And they’re terrible on the road. They lose again tonight and the Yanks have a nice 5 game lead over them.
Looking to head into the All Star Break in great shape this year.
Erica-I forgot-Who was in the five spot today?
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Erica
I’m AWESOME !
And that face won’t help you get hitched one day.
GB7 that wasn’t my quote.
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LMAO. Sorry, Brandon, but, I was limited by space and had to edit your post.
“You didn’t steal it. You borrowed it…the clear knee length one with yellow, blue and pink butterflies. You said that it would go well with your red vinyl rainboots when you went partying in The Village.”
I said it would go well if *you* bought yourself some red vinyl rainboots, I don’t know where the Village came from GB.
miggs-Let’s tie/overtake Boston.
Good new regarding Molina he needs to catch Joba next game. Molina will do a great job with Joba and get him back on track. Keep Posada away from Joba he is ruining him.
WTTCTOHA-
Matsui.. 4 RBIs from him today. Big difference in that spot in the lineup. I like Robbie, but he does not work as #5
Joba is ruining himself. He better get used to Posada because we need to play him in the playoffs when we put our best offensive team out there.
And Cano will be back to #5 when they reach Minnesota. Does Joe actually think Cano is a better hitter than Po? Also, it’s killing the team because Alex is getting pitched around; if I were Alex, I’d be more than slightly annoyed.
Posada’s amazing……..but he’s just not liked for some reason. Most people thought he’s bite AJ’s head off if he got pied – that he has no friends, no sense of humor. Sad….the guy is a borderline HOFer and a vital part of 4 WS teams
Brandon-
I keep typing replies to you, but none of them seem family friendly enough for this blog.
My face might be angry
but I have other wonderful attributes, which I am counting on to get hitched thankyouverymuch.
Erica-Robbie is awful as a 5 hitter. 0 for 21 w/RISP now? Brutal.
I say Posada in the 5 hole, Matsui is too streaky.
Yurendell DeCaster, 3B (things aren’t looking good for Cody)
I thought Po was in the #5 spot …..
Betsy-You are so right about Posada. It was awesome that he hit the first HR at NYS.
OK CB.
You know how much I respect you but that is a very small sample and not as a starter. Penny is no 5th for a MLB team team. However I am an idiot and finally have had extended family leave after being here over the weekend at the house and finally now enjoying a valium on the rocks. That may cloud my judgement.
-dennis
Betsy-
I agree. I am so tired of seeing Alex get walked to get to Cano. I can’t imaging how annoyed A-Rod must get.
I am not sure I agree with your assessment of Posada not being well liked. He is considered a strong leader on the team. And part of me wonders if 2008 would have been different with his leadership in the clubhouse. He may not be pie-in-your-face fun, but he does bring a level of intensity to the game
Molina served his time admirably here, but I fail to see the benefit of replacing Cervelli with him.
Betsy-
Girardi kept his word and rested A-Rod today. Posada hit 4th and Matsui 5th
Erica-2008 would have been different with his numbers on the field.
“My face might be angry
but I have other wonderful attributes, which I am counting on to get hitched thankyouverymuch.”
Oh really.
WTTCTOHA-
I agree that Matsui is streaky. Right now he is HOT. I say keep batting him 5th until he flames out again and then adjust. Maybe then put Posada 5th. Just not Cano. It doesn’t work
There is no reason to dredge up Posadagate again. It’s done.
Erica-there is logic in that, all right.
Nick in SF-
No Posadagate here. I think the guy is a leader and a wonderful Yankee
Brandon-
This is me not speaking to you. And telling you to get your mind out of the gutter!
Betsy,
Kay was going on and on about Posada and how he looked less than pleased about the pie, but I didn’t see that, he was just glad they won. (Kay insinuated he was a stick in the mud).
Then he asked if they would dare do that to Jeter. Then decided that they couldn’t exclude Jeter or something silly like that.
Cano for Freddy Sanchez. Get it done Cash. It works great both ways
This is the same Posada that does “How Well Do You Know Your Teammate” with Rivera on Yankees on Deck right?? How stick in the muddish could he be??
Burnett made Kay look bad because he kept going on the radio that no way they would pie Posada or Jeter.
While we’re talking ridiculous trades, I wonder what the effects would be of Tim Linececum (my favorite nony-yankee pitcher, tied with Halladay)being traded for Pujols.
Be fascinating, wouldn’t it?
Erica-I watch that. It is actaully really funny.
dennis,
Perhaps I have my yankee colored glasses on and perhaps penny is rounding into form more than I’m crediting him with. Much of my statement has more to do with Penny than Aceves I suppose. ERA of 4.67; WHIP of 1.5; K/9 6.2. That’s not Brad Penny from the past. But maybe I’m underselling him. Penny’s sample of work this year isn’t huge either – 88 innings.
I like Aceves and I like his stuff and approach. I don’t know how much of him you’ve seen. He can pitch. And he’s a hard guy to make a lot of adjustments against as the throws so many pitches and changes his looks.
Yankees have a pretty good staff. Today David Cone said that Aceves was the most unpredictable pitcher on the yankees staff. I think that says something. Pat M and MG today said that he reminded them of Ed Figueroa. And they aren’t guys to just over blow comparisons, as you know.
He’s not just a journeyman long reliever. He has good stuff and knows how to use it.
WTTCTOHA-
I think thats the only reason I DVR the show every week. They completely crack me up. They are like Bert and Ernie. LOL
“Cano for Freddy Sanchez. Get it done Cash. It works great both ways”
Where in looney tunes land ?
I like Molina,but what about the chemistry of the team now?
That’s my only concern,Posada came back and the error free games returned too.
Erica, I meant that fans don’t like him…..some boards I go to, wow – they blame him everytime a pitcher doesn’t pitch well, they say that he’s a sourpuss, etc……Just stupidity emanating from the boards.
The pie highlights are on YES.com, M. Po looked rather surprised, lol. He’s never had a pie in the face before…..Pete said he was fine with it. Kay is a humorless, boring, egg-head who, like Francesca, begrudges any bit of fun the Yankees have.
When AJ hits your eye with a big whipped cream pie
That’s amore….
Cano is a drunk
LOL Kay insinuated Po was a stick in the mud? That’s rich, given that Kay himself was apparently whining about the pie thing…….
“My face might be angry but I have other wonderful attributes, which I am counting on to get hitched thankyouverymuch.”
prove it!!!…we need visual evidence!!!…..get with the times, mlb has instant replays on homerun calls…its all about that technology
CB.
IMO you can not judge a reliever vs starter. It just does not compare.
-dennis
Also, Jeter has already said that he’d be fine with being pied because it meant that the Yankees won. Kay has to stop pretending he has the right to speak for the players…..esp. the dynasty guys. He probably never thought Mo would be into the pies, but Mo encouraged AJ that game where he got rocked and they had the walkoff (forgot who he faced)…..
“Aluminum bat for Damon
July 5th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Cano is a drunk”
And your sober ?
Comparing last year to this year, 81 games into the season:
Boston has the same record both years- 49-32
Yanks have 4 less losses this year
Tampa has 5 more losses this year.
Pujols is a big fish inn a small pond,like Arod was with Texas.
I’d like to see him in a big markt,and let it rip,(if he could.) His contract is up soon,Cards better not let it come due,they won’t be able to keep him.
pat-The big difference: Tampa.
Randy Choke and dan wheeler are doing the job for the rays how long will that last?
Now I know why I couldn’t remember that Decaster guy.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....id=3966587
Lucky bastard.
dennis,
Not ganging up on you. I won’t say anything about Penny, but Aceves was a revelation for Yankee fans.
An unheralded (well Jorge from mexico did talk him before he got the call) pitcher who could throw strikes and get batters out. Something we had not seen in a long time as rookie after rookie flamed out.
Aceves is a blog favorite because it’s like we knew about him before Cashman did.
So anything that CB or others say about Aceves is not based on what he does out of the bullpen, but what he did as a starter last season. It wasn’t unusual to see him go 6 innings and his pitch count would be freakishly low. That’s why we like him, he doesn’t fiddle around. And he works quickly and decisively.
Running out of superlatives, but there’s more to like about Aceves than his stat page.
DT-Ha ha I love that song.
“Randy Choke and dan wheeler are doing the job for the rays how long will that last?”
Not very long at all, sooner or later scouting reports will get out.
Betsy-
Well, thats a different story. Not every player is always going to be popular with the fans all of the time. But its the story the numbers put up that matter at the end of the day
Brandon and Ralphie D-
Umm- I have very pretty eyes. Happy now? I am not posting any pictures on here
And I also have a sparkling personality
Oh, Haiku-man. How can you say that molina will upset the apple cart? He did a marvelous job last season. The pitching settled down with him imo. Of course anyone would mesh better than I-rod, but that’s besides the point!
Mel.
As always, well said.
Hope you are well.
-dennis
Rays swept out of Texas. That’s a good thing.
Here’s the thing: I’m not advocating Joba to the pen (yet at least). Not at all. However, the real phenom is not Joba or Hughes. It’s Aceves. He has numbers better than both of them. If his fastballwas a wee bit better it would be Acevamania. He should be the one we argue about switching with Joba,not Hughes. And I love Hughes and think he’ll be an Ace, but going by results Ace has done spectacular. He gets my vote for rookie of the year.
Erica, I’m too Awesome for pictures.
Aceves was pretty good as a starter last season albeit he had one tough inning @ Fenway.
Sure it was Sept but his approach has always been awesome. ” Here it comes, hit it if you can”
Today was funny. Joba squirms through 3+ and Aceves barely sweats through 4.
I think if they can figure a way out to replace him in the pen, he takes Wangs spot.
Rays lose
AH I GOT THROUGH ON WFAN!!!
Wait it could have to do w/ Ace being 26 while the latter are 3 yrs. younger.
Second Ace as in Aceves.
I find it ridiculously frustrating that if the Yankees were in 4 of the 6 other divisions in MLB they would be running away with the lead
Make us proud Rebecca!!!
What are you calling to say???
Rebecca no prank calls and shout out to lohud.
Brandon-Not Aceves’s fault that Cashman missed out on someone who would probably be considered a phenom had Hughes and Joba not been around.
Rebecca-
Shout out to everyone on LoHud other than Brandon for falsely stating his awesomeness
What will you say Rebecca, P.S. just picture Lori naked to calm down the nerves.
Mention me.
Is IPK back pitching in Scranton yet?
m won’t be happy now that Rasheed is on the Celts.
Have I been mentioned? Huh? Have I?
“Brandon and Ralphie D-
Umm- I have very pretty eyes. Happy now? I am not posting any pictures on here
And I also have a sparkling personality”
“IMO you can not judge a reliever vs starter. It just does not compare.”
That’s perfectly reasonable point of view and for the most part I’d agree with it.
I guess I see Aceves as a starter who just happens to be in the pen. Those kinds of guys are an exception to the starter vs. reliever issue, IMO. Justin Masterson would be one. I’d think Masterson is a better pitcher than Penny at this time. Perhaps you’d disagree or perhaps I’m wrong.
Aceves regularly throws 4 pitches as a reliever. I can’t think of many relievers who do that. So when he works he really strikes me as a starter who has stuff average AL pitchers don’t.
Good weekend for the Yanks – gaining ground on all of their rivals.
Wait, he’s very very good, he can pitch, chill w/ the phenom labels.
Erica I’m too awesome for WFAN.
Its a shame Kennedy is on the DL the yankees wouldn’t have a problem. Kennedy was about ready to dominant the majors. IPK would make everybody forget about Wang.
m
reread my post before you jump to conclusions. Anytime you add or subtract, things can go in a good or bad direction.My friends(some) are Cards fans and we both are pleased to have
one of the Molina bros.
“Running out of superlatives, but there’s more to like about Aceves than his stat page.”
Have you looked at his stas page? Lots and lots to like.
Heh. They’re making me wait past the commercial break. Boo. It just makes me more nervous.
Why do I always do crazy things when I’m bored?
m Pudge (Ivan) was a d is nothing without the roids,that’s a fact.
You guys realize that somehow, someway, we have an excellent chance to end the first half either tied for first or even in front?
Amazing considering Boston’s ownership of us.
Brandon-
I never said I was too awesome for pictures, I just said I wasn’t posting them on here. HUGE difference.
I may be too awesome for WFAN though.
haiku-man,
Well, in that case, I’ll stay positive and say that Jose will have a positive impact on the team’s chemistry.
Rebecca-
You still haven’t told us what you are calling to say! Test it on us while you are waiting
I really disliked Kennedy. I didn’t see anything special with him.
Aceves is the phenom here, not Hughes or Joba.
Rebecca-post the transcript on here when you’re done.
Betsy-
I have been on vacation since June 26th. The Yankees are 8-1 in that time. Obviously, my job is causing the Yankees to lose
I cannot be responsible for future losing since I need to return to work tomorrow
CB,
No, I’m not a stat-head.
But I don’t need to see one to know that he has a low WHIP, and he minimizes damage.
His NP-ST is probably purty, too. maybe a good GO-AO ratio?
Y’all should listen. WFAN.com
Ian Kennedy and I have the same birthday. That makes me like him
I still think he might get another shot with the Yanks. His aneurysm made me sad
Wait, did Rebecca go on yet? Can we still tune in to catch her?
m-Still commercial.
I have it on!!!! Good luck!
Alfredo was starting in Scranton.
He had a so-so spring and many were surprised. His #’s in Scranton were OK.
He just seems to step it up when he gets the call. It’s quite refreshing.
CB you know in the postgame after AJ’s last start he called Phil Coke a young phenom. That’s a pretty big label to pin on him, I hate those label.
BTW wait you’ll be interested to know he has a 98 in control.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....eves.shtml
I still won’t call him a phenom, that label can’t be used that loosely.
Erica, by that note, during that period the Yankees struggled, I worked. I wonder if I shouldn’t show up to work tomorrow……it’s obvious that when I work, they have a chance to lose. Not good.
Thought the most interesting thing I heard someone say about Joba today was if he was Darrell Rasner pitching like he is, we’d all be singing his praises and calling Cashman and Girardi geniuses…but he’s not Darrell Rasner.
He had the stuff you dream about when it comes to a starting pitcher and he’s lost a chunk of what made him special.
The fact that I heard fans comparing him to Rasner in the context I wrote above should tell us all enough how much he’s slipped.
I read a lot of the posts today about his attitude or about how he’s trying to protect himself and pitch 150 innings and I think there are a lot of valid points.
But this one is on the Yankees to fix. This is nowhere near the same pitcher stuff wise or head wise and if he needs an attitude adjustment I hope this team gives him one and doesn’t tip toe around it.
If it’s not that and he’s lost his stuff this much that he’s a back of the rotation starter at best who can barely give you 5, it’s one of the saddest/strangest things to watch happen to an athlete who didn’t have to go through a surgical procedure that caused this slip.
Someone will get to the bottom of this just as they got to the bottom of things with Cano last season leading to his benching that supposedly turned his head around.
The interesting thing about the Yankees is they always seem a little late to adjust. Like it took them up until today to move Cano back down. It took them too long to give up Veras shortening the pen for Joe.
I don’t want to see Cashman overreact to obvious things going on with the club, but I would like to see them react a bit quicker.
Hurry up…
Got it, sports update.
I called and got in once, It was the late night and I got to speak to steve summers. Is he alive still?
I agree, Brandon – I love Aceves, but he’s not a phenom.
Rebecca just picture Lori naked so you won’t be nervous, either that or go extreme and picture Fatcessa naked.
Betsy-
We need to somehow get the Yankee front office’s attention. Clearly, we should be on payroll since our jobs cause Yankee losses. It is to the Yankees benefit that we quit our jobs and become full-time fans.
Even as great as Pujols is,the NL Central is bunched up close.
The Cards and Brewers are taking turns in first place,or tied. The Cards use to own the division,not anymore,Cubs,Reds and Brewers,are still close.
I called into WFAN once, I think it was with Suzyn Waldman. I really wasn’t nervous because I had the radio off – like you’re supposed to. Since I didn’t have to hear my stupid voice, I was ok……..I also called into Michael Kay – he’s a nice guy, even if he drives me crazy at times.
Bronx Jeers,
This winter was the first one Aceves didn’t pitch.
He was honeymooning?…
Holy bloody heck how long are they gonna make me wait? My phone is gonna die!
Lots of commercials.. jeez
Rebecca Mets beat writer is on, it’ll be another 10-15 mins before they go to you.
Sometimes I think that Joba just looks at the box score to see if he pitched well or not.
Brandon-
Are you listening online or on real radio?
I have online and I hear commercials
Erica, I feel like the Yanks do better when I’m not watching….or actually, when I’m not watching and I’m on this blog, lol.
Wait- I hear the Mets beat writer now.
I am willing to buy Jose Molina and Cody Ransom two Air France tickets to nowhere.
Erica, I feel like the Yanks do better when I’m not watching….or actually, when I’m not watching and I’m on this blog, lol.
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Same with me!
radio, I’m too Awesome to link WFAN on my computer.
*takes two fingers from both hands and points at self w/ an awesome grin*
Betsy-
It depends. Sometimes I’ll be watching at home and things can get ugly and I will change the channel to see if I am the problem.
This weekend I was at the beach (and no computer) and none of the games were on network TV so I listenened on the radio. It went really well.
Tomorrow I have to go to work and will be finishing the stretch of afternoon games by listening online with my gameday audio package. I still think my job is the problem
I’m so incredibly proud to see Mo has been elected into his 10th All Star game,and that he’s a Yankee!
Nick Swisher to be on with Bruce Beck on Mike’d Up……
Erica, I’ll be at work tomorrow and will not be listening to the radio – I get nervous, lol.
Francesca’s on vacation – wonder who’s filling in, maybe Kim? No, no with an afternoon game…..probably some Met fan
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 5th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
radio, I’m too Awesome to link WFAN on my computer.
*takes two fingers from both hands and points at self w/ an awesome grin*
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*takes two fingers from both hands down her throat and gags*
“This winter was the first one Aceves didn’t pitch.
He was honeymooning?…”
Oh he was “honeymooning” alright.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/fil.....aceves.jpg
Betsy-
That’s like when the Yankees are on the west coast and I am having tons of trouble staying up for the game. If I go to sleep before the game is over, it will bother my subconscious so much that I will actually dream about the Yankee game being played all night.
Is that normal???
And while I was digging up the Aceves pic, this appeared for no good reason.
So for a trip down memory lane and for a nice chuckle….
http://bigapplesportsblog.file.....2/arod.jpg
Betsy-
That’s like when the Yankees are on the west coast and I am having tons of trouble staying up for the game. If I go to sleep before the game is over, it will bother my subconscious so much that I will actually dream about the Yankee game being played all night.
Is that normal???
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For a lOhud Yankess blog poster yes.
Heh, my ear is burning from keeping the phone next to it…
LMAO oh god that scarf. Everyone in LA is doing it.
Did Rebecca speak on WFAN yet? How do i listen to it online?
I cant decided who is Hotter Posada’s wife or Ace’s wife.
Maybe this is the problem.
We got the wrong guy on the mound?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Cezb.....erlain.jpg
“For a lOhud Yankess blog poster yes”
Whew. Thank you (I think).
The last time that happened was the game where the start was delayed until around 10:30. I watched until 12 and I couldn’t do it any longer.
I wound up bolting out of bed around 5am (I don’t normally wake up until 7:30), turned on my computer- checked the score. They lost that game. I got sad. Went back to sleep. Woke up grumpy at my normal time
Rebecca, you’ll be fine picture Lori or Francesa naked while your talking. You should be ok.
-Brandon <—- "He's Awesome"
Joe: Not yet.
http://www.wfan.com
Click on listen live.
Alright, i got WFAN Streaming…make us proud Rebecca lol
Erica: There was a game in 2007 in Detroit that was delayed until 11 PM eastern time.
I stayed up; it actually went into extra innings. And the Yankees lost, courtesy of Sean Henn
The fact that Wang is gone , and I do think he’s likely gone for the season, the weight of expectations and need falls heavily on Joba…..He’s now the # 3 starter as Pettite really is a # 4 guy ( stuff wise )…..Today was Joba’s most important start in his very young career, as the pen was depleted and there was a percieved need to prove that he was the pitcher the Bombers need to follow CC & AJ up in the rotation…..Needless to say he flunked on both fronts…..My disappointment was obvious and maybe even clouded my objectivity…But his role is quite clear, he needs to step it up and be more than a 5 inning pitcher….
Rebecca,
you’ll be fine just picture Lori or Fatcessa naked while your making your point, you should be ok.
-Brandon “I’m Awesome !!!”
Rebecca-
I remember that game. It was a Friday night and it ended around 3:30am. I went to sleep for that one too.
I read an article the next day that fans in Detroit were furious after the game because they didn’t have their usual Friday night fireworks display after. LOL. Maybe it was because it was actually early Saturday morning
Erica: There was a game in 2007 in Detroit that was delayed until 11 PM eastern time.
I stayed up; it actually went into extra innings. And the Yankees lost, courtesy of Sean Henn
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I remember that was the game I threw the remote at my TV, not a good idea.
Ok, i have never listened to NY radio before, because i live in texas…but DAMN!! we dont have THAT many commercials down here… lol..
“Rebecca are you still here?” “Yep” “Okay hang on we should get to you soon” “Okay, thank you” ASDLKFJLDJFA
“I remember that was the game I threw the remote at my TV, not a good idea”
I have done many TV remote punts myself. I have learned that throwing couch pillows is generally a better idea.
Sometimes if I am not holding things, I will smack myself on the leg. This is also not a very good idea
That’s code for your either 1st or 3rd.
Ummm.. Brandon aka “Mr. thinks he is awesome”. Do you call up a lot???
Rebeccasounds like the smartest caller tonight.
I hear Rebecca from the Bronx!!!!
Silly online delays.. grrrrrrrr
Very good call nice use of facts. You should Co-host with Francesca maybe ill listen. tow thumbs up!
Rebecca your debut was a triple out of the box.
Good job !
-Brandon “I’m Awesome !!!”
nice job rebecca!….you sounded really smart lol
Mark: I’ve been told I mumble
YAY Rebecca!!! Great stats…im sure Francesa would have tried to debunk those accurate stats you gave lol
“I remember that was the game I threw the remote at my TV, not a good idea”
I have done many TV remote punts myself. I have learned that throwing couch pillows is generally a better idea.
Sometimes if I am not holding things, I will smack myself on the leg. This is also not a very good idea
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I don’t throw things anymore, now that I found the yankees suicide hot line AKA l0hud yankees blog
Yay Rebecca!
The girl is right though.
If Mitre or whoever does good, it’s status quo.
If not, after the break, Aceves might get a shot.
Mark: I’ve been told I mumble
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You would still make more sense than Francesca.
I hate to bring this up but 2001 WS Game 7, 9th inning- I threw an entire bowl of popcorn at the TV. That was the worst. The Yankees lost and I had to clean up a giant mess after.
That also led to my “no popcorn during playoffs” superstition
I did hear a bit of a mumble, hence why it was a triple out of the box, you just missed a HR, but it was your first time and you provided facts that if Cashman were listening he’d say “you know what she makes a good point”
Shucks. I missed it. Sounds like you did good.
Rebecca, very nice job!!!
Much better than the dude after you who sounded like he was hitting on Lori
Good job Rebecca, sounded great out here in SF.
“Mark: I’ve been told I mumble
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You would still make more sense than Francesca.”
That’s not all that hard to do…
“I did hear a bit of a mumble, hence why it was a triple out of the box, you just missed a HR, but it was your first time and you provided facts that if Cashman were listening he’d say “you know what she makes a good point””
If I knew he was listening I would have totally pimped my blog.
Mitre is not the answer. He doesn’t have good enough stuff to pitch in the National League, let alone the AL East. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is nieve, or doesn’t know much about baseball.
Mitre is not the answer. He doesn’t have good enough stuff to pitch in the National League, let alone the AL East. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is nieve, or doesn’t know much about baseball.
josh:
The damage by allowing Mitre one start is far less than the potential damage by removing your bullpen’s biggest assets.
Please give a recap on the Bronx caller, I’m in a taqueria in the Excelsior District and couldn’t listen.
Naturally, for perpetuity:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62285372e5275ee4/
Pel, you are my hero.
Can I buy you dinner?
I agree with Rebecca-
Last year the bullpen was a huge strength until Cashman traded Farnsworth for Pudge. I believe this is what messed with the momentum and balance of the team.
Right now our bullpen is clicking on all cylanders. Mitre may not be Cy young material, but right now they need innings eaters and a body to make a start every 5 games. Don’t write him off yet. He could surprise you. Remember Aaron Small in 2005???
Nice Job Pel
Pel comes through in the clutch
Bronx Jeers,is that Joba in the picture on the left too?
Rebecca from the bronx, you should post that in your blog.
-Brandon “I’m Awesome !!!”
haiku-man
July 6th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Bronx Jeers,is that Joba in the picture on the left too?
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the guy on the left is imposter Joba. After Joba debuted in 2007 the imposter went to bars and stuff pretending to be Joba. He eventually got arrested and it became a story
Brandon: I don’t know how to upload sound files =P
Thanks, Pel.
Rebecca,
Good points. Still, I think Aceves can slide in almost seamlessly because he’s so darn efficient.
Aceves has been pitching multiple innings and is not used like a regular reliever.
I know it’s a big gamble, but I would give Tomko Aceves’ role. This team has the capability (and fences) to come back in a game.
I give mitre one start, if that, and stretch Ace out for after the ASB.
Rebecca, Great job & you sounded great all the way here in LA…..All she did was agree with you and a round about way……And I agree with you, leave the pen alone…Unless they come up with a established reliever…..Call Drayton Moore form the KC Royals and find about Bannister, he’s on the market and he’s good…Under the radar real good….
m: I don’t think giving Aceves one start is necessarily a problem, but any more than that and you can’t really replace what he’s done in the bullpen.
Tomko’s not been as bad as some make him out to be, but he’s nowhere near as decent as Aceves.
You’re all welcome.
I had Rebecca in my left ear and Swisher on Mike’d Up in my right ear.
I didn’t like that the host didn’t really engage you.
Tony Paige will engage you. This host, not so much.
At this point, even if they can get someone established for the pen- I say leave it alone. Why fix what’s not broken?
When the Sox signed Gagne in 2007 as a set up guy, everyone thought thought the Sox had just automatically won the division. Instead, he almost sabatoged their season. My point is- sometimes the move not made, is the best deal of all
“Rebecca, Great job & you sounded great all the way here in LA…..All she did was agree with you and a round about way……And I agree with you, leave the pen alone…Unless they come up with a established reliever…..Call Drayton Moore form the KC Royals and find about Bannister, he’s on the market and he’s good…Under the radar real good….”
Thanks man.
Wish she would have let me made a follow up point about Aceves = Mendoza, but I shouldn’t get greedy now!
Okay everyone.. unfortunately, I have to return to work tomorrow.
so, therefore, it’s bedtime
I’ll be listening to the game at work tomorrow and probably be on at gametime, to post here and there even though I will be working very hard.
Good night Yankee folks!!!!
Pel, tell me you uploaded Swisher on Mike’d Up. please
Bottom line, we’ll know more on Thursday.
Rebecca’s right but let’s all hope that whoever gets that start pitches well enough to get another.
If it’s a total disaster, Aceves could get the July 21st start at home vs. Baltimore.
Girardi hinted at this (Aceves eventually joining the rotation) on his show today.
m, HR derby is next week, Tomko can pitch there. Rebecca made a great point of how important Yussse and Ace are to that BP, so the Yankees shouldn’t disrupt that seeing that this AL East is going to come down to the wire.
Using Aceves in the rotation puts Tomko as your long relif option, TOMKO I’m not ready to see HR derby when we’re trying to stay in games like Joba pitched today or CC did vs Seattle.
Goodnight Erica
-Brandon “You know…. I’m awesome !!!”
Rebecca, I’m still listening to The Fan for the first time outside of NYC…..She seemed to be in a rush to move you along as compared to the following callers….You really didn’t give her anything to disagree with as you were very to the point and with the #’s to support your premise….Hanging out at the LoHud does have it’s bennies if you can filter some of the insanity…..
Thanks Erica,It didn’t look like Joba!
I realize that taking Aceves out of the bullpen creates a hole.
But, personally, I’d feel much better handing him the ball every 5 days. I think Girardi would, too.
Let mitre pitch out of the bullpen. Good to have a groundball pitcher to get out of jams. Start him off in low leverage situations to see what he’s made of.
“Rebecca, I’m still listening to The Fan for the first time outside of NYC…..She seemed to be in a rush to move you along as compared to the following callers….You really didn’t give her anything to disagree with as you were very to the point and with the #’s to support your premise….Hanging out at the LoHud does have it’s bennies if you can filter some of the insanity…..”
Heh. I’ve been told I know how to debate.
And yes, LoHud has some very smart people, as does RAB.
Brandon,
Listen to yourself. Long relief. LONG RELIEF!!!! You don’t waste Aceves in a rubbish position.
“Thanks Erica,It didn’t look like Joba!”
It does if you’re a drunk New Jersian.
m, your not going to get the same results from Mitre as you would Aceves in that BP relief role. You just won’t.
I hope the Molina for Cervelli substitution isn’t as counterproductive as the Ransom for Pena brain cramp.
M:
Aceves =/= long relief.
Aceves = Ramiro Mendoza.
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/...../#comments
Brandon,
mitre wouldn’t be a long reliever. Just use him like Robertson & Albie.
We know Hughes is not going anywhere, I think this staff working backwards can get it done:
Rivera
Hughes
Coke
Bruney
Robertson
Albie
Gio
Tomko
Okay, that looks like one too many relievers, huh? Sergio doesn’t even need to come up if that’s the case.
“Brandon,
mitre wouldn’t be a long reliever. Just use him like Robertson & Albie.”
It’s not the same ! take today a 10-8 game you think Mitre finshes that off ?
Lets really be honest here.
A caller just said move ANdy to the bullpen hahahaha
Rebecca,
Sorry, I’m not too familiar with mendoza, so I have no reference point.
Was mendoza also a good starter who was fabulously efficient and effective?
Seriously, though, I take the 5th starter role very seriously. Especially since he’ll be slotted in the #3 spot. I want to put our best alternative there. But they’re not budging on Hughes.
So, that leaves me with Aceves. I know he can get the job done.
“your not going to get the same results from Mitre as you would Aceves in that BP relief role. You just won’t.”
Your not gong to get the same results from Mitre as you would Aceves in that starting role. You just won’t.
No team should need 7 relievers, but teams do it anyway.
Brandon,
You’re going to sacrifice the 5th starter spot because you need to cover the 4th starter?
That’s a problem. And Joba needs to figure it out.
m:
It’s not a coincidence our record improved a ton when we brought up a long reliever.
It sounds funny, that a garbage role could be so important, but it is.
“Your not gong to get the same results from Mitre as you would Aceves in that starting role. You just won’t.”
Ofcourse you won’t. I didn’t pick Mitre. I’m just not big in taking out one of our best BP weapons out of the BP.
“Rebecca,
Sorry, I’m not too familiar with mendoza, so I have no reference point.
Was mendoza also a good starter who was fabulously efficient and effective?
Seriously, though, I take the 5th starter role very seriously. Especially since he’ll be slotted in the #3 spot. I want to put our best alternative there. But they’re not budging on Hughes.
So, that leaves me with Aceves. I know he can get the job done.”
Ramiro Mendoza is one of the most understated reasons we won four championships in five years.
He was a jack of all trades reliever, start, pitch one, pitch four, set up, close…whatever. He could do it. And he did it well.
There is no overstating how valuable that is to a team.
“Aceves =/= long relief.
Aceves = Ramiro Mendoza.”
Who was the yankees starting 5 when Mendoza was in the pen?
If the 5th starter was worse than what those teams had would Mendoza still have been in the pen?
Mendoza was in the pen only because those rotations were so deep.
And the way Mendoza was used by Torre ruined his arm.
No reliever in the game now throws 130 innings while making 40-50 appearances a year and there is a reason.
“Brandon,
You’re going to sacrifice the 5th starter spot because you need to cover the 4th starter?
That’s a problem. And Joba needs to figure it out.”
Wang isn’t gone for the season. He strained his shoulder, now if it becomes more than that then you worry, right now we’re talking a spot start before the ASB, and the Yankees are buyers come trade deadline hence why my decision would be showcase Nova in that spot start.
This is starting to feel like Jobagate revisited.
One’s too good to go to the pen, the other is too good to leave it.
The “Jobagate-Like Aceves Reversal Conundrum”
In theaters soon!
CB:
I dunno about you, but I kinda think Mendoza was a bit better than Irabu.
At any rate, what made Mendoza so valuable was his versatility.
I’ve got no problem with Aceves making a spot start if need be, like Thursday’s start before the ASB.
My issue is that if you remove him for a length of time you create a bigger hole in the bullpen that you have to fill.
What Aceves has done in the pen is Mendoza-like and CAN’T be replicated by Joe Reliever, even if we’d like to think that it can.
Furthermore, a thinned bullpen affects every starter’s start.
Calling up Mitre is only one of five starts.
I don’t think we know what Aceves’s ultimate ceiling is just yet. Mendoza had durability issues that prevented him from being a starter. Aceves doesn’t have that problem.
I do, however, want Hughes in the rotation.
First it’s Jobamania, currently it’s Phil-phever, and next will be…Acevogue?
“I do, however, want Hughes in the rotation.”
And you’ll get that…….. next season
Rushing Wang back because we haven’t filled his spot adequately is foolish and potentially dangerous.
Joe Reliever has awful splits. Bad example.
Rebecca, I think it comes down to what Cashman can get for the best deal, either a starter or an arm for the pen…I tyhink he’ll strat looking at starters first as that is the most fragile area…..Just realize Joba is # 3 with Pettite # 4…Not very comforting considering the need now for another starter…..I rather Cashman seek out a starter and then a reliever…Sandwich a rh hitter somewhere in the mix…..81 games is 81 games….Joba suddenly becomes a important cog as of yesterday….Wang I think is done for pratical purposes in 09……..Also I’m still listening to The FAN man has the quality droped off since your call……
I have Acevitis and I don’t want to be cured!
“What Aceves has done in the pen is Mendoza-like and CAN’T be replicated by Joe Reliever, even if we’d like to think that it can.”
Who was the Phillies Ramiro Mendoza last year?
How about the sox the year before?
Cardinals the year before that?
Having a Ramiro Mendoza isn’t a requirement to win a world series.
And we have no evidence at all the Aceves can handle that kind of bizarre work load and usage pattern. None.
First, Aceves doesn’t pitch like Mendoza at all. So I have no idea if he can fill that role – Mendoza generated a lot of ground ball and pitching to contact let him get used so much.
Aceves isn’t like that. He’s a fly ball pitcher who strikes out many more hitters than mendoza.
You’re never going to rebuild that dynasty teams. The yankees and yankee fans need to let that go. Like other great teams it can be informative as a model but it’s not a blueprint.
Pat M: Of course the quality’s dropped off, they can’t compete =P
And yeah, I can see Cashman looking to trade for a starter.
We’ll see.
Que sera sera.
And with that, I’m off to sleep. Thanks for the late inning entertainment everyone!
i wonder if mike would of argued with rebecca’s call even though she made a good point you dont mess with the pen when its going this good with hughes and acceves. I remember last year even though farnsworth wasnt great once we made that trade the bullpen suffered.
CB: No, you don’t need Ramiro Mendoza to win the World Series. You’re right.
But Aceves has arguably been our best weapon all year.
I understand your point. I know you know way more about baseball than I ever will.
But I’m going with my gut here. Disrupt the team as little as possible when things are going well.
So on that note I humbly beg your forgiveness for my disagreeing, and now I go to sleep.
A hole in the rotation is much more critical than a hole in the pen. Wang won’t be back till August. If that.
Aceves has been pitching about 15 innings a month. He’s been doing great. Picked up where he left off last season.
Put him in the rotation and he’ll be doing close to 15 innings weekly.
It’s a near identical argument as the Joba issue.
“I dunno about you, but I kinda think Mendoza was a bit better than Irabu.”
Why do you think that Mendoza racked up so many innings? One reason was because Irabu didn’t give them enough innings and taxed the pen.
BTW Irabu was a huge dissappointment given their expectations. But he wasn’t actually all that bad as a 5th starter, especially in 1998.
Does this remind you of anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7IBPSJDT5o
Where did this guy go?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxyy18tp4-o
Please come back soon!
Disturbing thought.
Somebody…somewhere has an Irabu jersey in their closet.
Talk about chunky skeletons.
Irabu had too much cultural psychological damage after the explosive expose of his mixed heritage. Poort guy.
What was it that Steinbrenner really said about him? Did he call him a fat toad full of puss, or did he call him a fat toad of another kind? I’ve never heard it, only read it.
Irabu’s career ERA+ was 89. Mendoza’s was 107. In 1998, Irbau’s ERA+ was 109. Mendoz’a was 136. Mendoza was a significantly better pitcher.
oops,
Does this remind you of anyone?
http://tinyurl.com/jobanow
Where did this guy go?
http://tinyurl.com/jobathen
Please come back soon!
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boo.. i hate awaiting moderation posts.
Irabu was only with the Yanks for 2 and a half years and pitched 173 innings/4.06 ERA one year and 169 innings/4.84 ERA in the other. He was a 13 game winner in his first full year. he was nothing special in those two years, but better than people remember. He was a decent #5 pitcher in ’98 and ’99.
For 3 years, Mendoza was starting about 15 times a year.
The rotations during those years had Key, Gooden, Rogers, who mixed with Cone, Pettitte, Wells, Clemens and Hernandez.
What abot trading Jose Molina?
There must be a team looking for help at the backstop position?
You might get some low level prospect