Wang to DL; Albaladejo recalled
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The Yankees placed Chien-Ming Wang (shoulder) on the 15-day disabled list today and called up RHP Jonathan Albaladejo from Triple-A Scranton.
Wang will be shut down until after the break then will try to start playing catch. No word yet on a Thursday starter. They could use the bullpen or summon a starter from Scranton.
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Does Albie start in Wangs spot or will it be Hughes or Aceves?
Being they had a extra inning game yesterday….Good bet Albie says on the team until Thursday when they will call Mitre for the start and send Albie back down
Can Hughes go 5 innings? If yes, he’s obviously the best choice, no?
“Does Albie start in Wangs spot or will it be Hughes or Aceves?”
There will probably be another move to address that before Wang’s spot comes around again.
…Wha?
This makes it sound like they do plan to start Hughes.
And I don’t really have that much faith in Albaladejo, until he proves me wrong.
RMEL, I agree with you. The bullpen is short today and they needed an arm. If Mitre makes the start they can call him up on Wednesday or Thursday and send someone down.
OK now that I’ve stepped away from the ledge…
My guess is that it could be that since using every reliever save Aceves yesterday, they wanted someone else to be available today.
But who knows.
SJ44 July 5th, 2009 at 10:41 am
If Hughes wasn’t sent to the bullpen, they aren’t where they are in the standings right now.
Results dictate who a 5th starter is. Its the results, not the name, that you are replacing.
They turned a weakness into a strength by putting Hughes in the bullpen.
Right now, there isn’t any reason to weaken the bullpen by taking Hughes out of the rotation.
What if Mitre gives them reasonable production in the that slot? If he does, nothing changes and the team continues to roll along.
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I’m not so sure about that. This team went on a rampage in May winning 20 of 24 games and had a crappy bullpen at the time with a bunch of arms nobody trusted.
That’s when guys like Veras, Ramirez, and Albaladejo were out there while Bruney was on the DL and Hughes was in the rotation.
They Yanks went on that run because the rotation really stepped it up and carried the team that month.
I don’t have any issues with the Yanks leaving Hughes where he is if this is only a month-long stay on the DL for Wang (and I seriously doubt that’s the case).
But I would have an issue with it if their best option remained in the pen while a retread like Mitre or someone else is getting Ponson-ed for a dozen starts.
I don’t think it will be Mitre. He’s also recovering from an offseason inj. IDK why I feel like it will be Nova, Josh Towers or Zach McAllister. Mitre is more of the long reliever type, we’ll see something on Tuesday or Wedensday.
This is what I said yesterday, they will call up a reliever for the next three days then make another roster move on Wednesday or Thursday for a starter.
Looks like Albie is the sacrificial lamb. Here today, gone Thursday when Mitre (Nova???) is called up. Hopefully, the following day, the starter (who will not be needed again until after the ASB) will be sent back down and Melancon recalled — for good.
Loopyca Watch continues.
Today Iron Mike makes excuses for the Mets:
“I’m just thinking out loud here, but how would the Yankees be looking these days — how far would they be behind the Red Sox — if they were down Mark Teixeira, A-Rod and Capt. Jeter?
Carlos Delgado isn’t the hitter that Teixeira is, Beltran isn’t A-Rod, at least when A-Rod is up and running, and it’s been a while since anybody was a whole lot keener on Jose Reyes than they are on Jeter.
But you sort of see how the math works, right?”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....G2j3&C
Well, let’s see. In the beginning of the season, Teix wasn’t hitting a lick and A-Rod was injured. Cody Ransom was at 3d base, Posada and then Molina were down and Wang was in the minors after blowing up with a 20.00 ERA. And Jeter still couldn’t go to his left. Injuries are just part of the game when it’s the Yankees; excuses only become available when the precious Mets are dealing with key injuries.
I really should remove the link to this malignant dwarf’s column, but I’ll be fair and lead the curious to the rest of his rant. You’ll be interested to know that in today’s *sports* column, he takes a gratuitous swipe at the Palins but also snipes at Nancy Pelosi. That’s the closest he’s come to fair and balanced in the last 20 years
“If Hughes wasn’t sent to the bullpen, they aren’t where they are in the standings right now.”
Giuseppe, I’m sorry but this is so true. The offense kept us afloat, but when Yussse went into the BP the SP and BP held us down. We wouldn’t be 1 gm. behind BOS w/o this.
Yankees magic number to clinch AL East: 84
Yankees magic number to clinch playoffs: 80
Because of the AS Break, between now and the end of July, Wang’s turn could be only 3 starts. Thursday in Minn., and against Baltimore and Oakland in the Bronx.
Seeing if there is a short term solution from within before a knee jerk reaction would seem the most prudent course of action.
SJ
Bruney was lights out prior to his injury. I am under the assumption that Bruney is just a little rusty coming back from an injury.
If Bruney is not able to regain his pre-injury form, That does change everything. Is it more then that?
bottom line, you’d see Dunn before Melancon and we’re prbly talking late August w/ that one.
i wouldn’t start hughes.
45 pitches could be only 3 innings,4 at the most.
now you kill the pen & still not fill the pitching void for a while.
i would only put hughes back in the rotation if cashman trades for a solid 8th inning pitcher.
Yup, after Thursday’s game the Yankees don’t need a 5th starter until July 21st and then just two more times for the rest of July. They have plenty of time to determine what they’re going to do and to find out how much time Wang is going to miss with this injury.
There will not be any panic moves like moving Hughes or Aceves back out of the bullpen especially with Bruney being shaky right now.
“Yankees magic number to clinch AL East: 84
Yankees magic number to clinch playoffs: 80″
And think about this Yusssse might carry 20-40 holds in his arms. He might have 20-30 team wins result b/c of where he is right now.
Guy’s I’m sure Albie is a temporary move, The bullpen was taxed yesterday.
Pat,
That’s what I mean. We are only talking about 3 starts right now.
Unless Mitre or whomever they put in there just blows up, I think its easier to handle three starts than it is upsetting the bullpen rotation.
I can see both sides of the argument though.
i am more worried about bruney getting hurt again.
he can’t be relied upon because of this.
i am starting to think that the best thing to do is just audition wang’s starts out to mitre,mcallister,nova,towers or trade/sign a pitcher.
Giuseppe, I’m sorry but this is so true. The offense kept us afloat, but when Yussse went into the BP the SP and BP held us down. We wouldn’t be 1 gm. behind BOS w/o this.
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I don’t know. I guess we’ll agree to disagree on this issue.
The rotation has really pitched well the last month. In fact, they been getting better and better as the season has progressed.
This team had a rough stretch in June because they weren’t hitting at all. I can’t say for certain that Hughes is the reason why the Yanks are one game back.
He hasn’t pitched that many innings out of the pen the last couple of weeks.
Phil Yussse is uh staahting pitch-uh!
the bullpen is just so good now.
i would be affraid to mess with it.
my question is does cash stretch hughes out or trade for a pitcher not based on wang’s injury alone but based on wang & anticipation of another injury?
BTW, the Yanks would still be in better shape than the Mets without their big boppers.
At least they have a rotation to help them win. For the Mets, it’s Johan Santana and that’s it.
The Yanks are 8-9 in games started by Sabathia. But they are 10-5 in games started by Joba and an astounding 12-4 in games started by Pettitte.
Maybe it’s just dumb luck or an indication that the depth of the rotation is the strength of this team.
I agree murphydog, next season he is a staaaahting pitchaaaaa !
NEXT PG.
Mike Lupica also can’t let go of the steroids issue – he is tiresome even from England
i think it is relatively safe to say we are not where we are without hughes in the pen because we have not lost many of wang’s starts.
hughes could of easily saved more games then we lost during wang’s starts after wang came back after his dl stint.
how many games did we lose when wang started,2 if that???
The 40 man roster move for Mitre may be a bigger concern than the start. Since Nady is DLed and a free agent next year, could he be removed or does a DL prevent a DFA?
“Maybe it’s just dumb luck or an indication that the depth of the rotation is the strength of this team.”
Whoa… if that were true, then Loopyca might have to give credit to Cashman or the Yankee starters
Hey Loopy… you’ve crapped on the new Yankee Stadium and Cashman like an overfed goose, but where’s the truthing for Minaya? How’s that decision to clean out the farm system to get Santana looking now? And how about that new CitiField, where your not-really-a-HR-hitter David Wright has lost his stroke? And what about this Reyes situation? Is he going “Pavano” on the Metsies?
The NYY need to start preparing Phil Hughes to take CMW’s spot for the remainder of the year. Shoulder problems, especially considering CMW’s history, are nothing to take lightly. CMW probably won’t be ready until early August, assuming he recovers OK. By then he’ll be back at square one and the NYY can’t afford to build him back up so late in the year. They can’t afford to give away games or tax the pen as the stretch drive begins. It will probably take 3-4 weeks to build PH up so if they start now he’ll be ready for the Aug-Sept stretch run. PH has been great in the pen. He helped when the team had a need. Now the team needs help in the rotation, that’s his job. As far as the pen, Bruney needs to step up like Hughes did. Maybe they can explore other options at SWB or the trade market. Plus Coke is beginning to look like the Coke of last year. It all starts with starting pitching and the NYY need to put their best 5 out there, that includes Phil Hughes.
Pat
Even if possible, I would think that a DFA would mean no chance at draft picks if he signs elsewhere.
long-time lurker, first-time caller
while the “keep hughes in the pen” consensus around here has certainly made very reasonable points, i get him back to the rotation asap. if they do still believe he is ultimately a starter (i hope so), then i take advantage of the confidence built recently in the pen and see if it translates to the rotation. And “it’s only 3 starts” is very optimistic; not only do i think they will be very cautious with Wang after the inital rehab missteps, whether it’s Joba’s innings limit (or ineffectiveness) or someone else going down, i believe they will need more than 3 starts from someone else before the end of the season.
For this year and the future, i would rather have it be Hughes than a journeyman. Start the process now…
pat
why should nady matter?
i thought a player on the dl does not count as a roster spot?
not sure.
wang on the dl was replaced with alby,someone will be sent down or released to make room for mitre or whoever else we bring up.
we also have 8 pen arms
alby
bruney
hughes
coke
robertson
tomco
ace
mo
does a 15 day dl stint count as a roster spot?
60 day?
i thought if you are on the dl it does not count as a roster spot?
send alby down wich puts the pen back too the traditional 7 pitchers too go along with 5 starters(12) total & bring up a pitcher.
i am sure i am missing something but don’t know what.
Nady will be a high risk free agent and probably still rehabbing from TJ surgery well into 2010.
Cashman is best served to cut ties with him now to free up roster space.
It will be interesting to see what teams put feelers out there with intentions of slashing payroll.
MLB is very concerned about dwindling attendance. School is out and figures are not up.
15 day DL – you still count towards the 40 man roster
60 day DL – you do not count towards the 40 man roster
A player needs to be in the major leagues when they are placed on the 60 day DL (i.e. we can’t put Kennedy or Garcia on the 60 day DL).
40 man roster move will almost definately be Nady to the 60-day DL. To call up a starter for Thursday. My guess is Mitre given he has major league experience. With Ace ready as the long man.
24 pitches…ugh