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Game 83: Yankees at Twins (Updates: Aceves to start Thurs., Halladay talk and Girardi pre-game audio)

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YANKEES (48-34)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH,
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Gardner CF
Cervelli C

Pitching: LHP CC Sabathia (7-5, 3.85).

TWINS (43-40)
Span LF
Harris SS
Mayer C
Morneau 1B
Cuddyer RF
Crede 3B
Young DH
Gomez CF
Punto 2B

Pitching: RHP Scott Baker (6-6, 4.99).

TIME/TV: 8:10, MY9.

STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees are coming off a 5-2 homestand. They have won 10 of their last 12 and are a game out of first place in the AL East.

SO LONG, METRODOME: Unless the teams meet in the playoffs, this is the last time the Yankees will play inside the stuffy confines of the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome. They are 74-64 in the stadium but only 8-11 since 2004.

TWIN KILLING: The Yankees swept four games from the Twins from May 15-18. They outscored Minnesota only 21-16 as three of the games were decided by one run.

M AND M BOYS: Joe Mauer (5 of 16, 2 home runs, 3 RBI) and Justin Morneau (9 of 16, 3 homers, 5 RBI) destroyed the Yankees back in May. The duo scored seven runs and drew eight walks.

GODZILLA RETURNS: Joe Girardi was right, that unwelcome interleague rest did wonders for Hideki Matsui. He is 9 of 18 with six extra-base hits (three of them homers) and 10 RBI in his last six games.

THAT’S CANO AS IN NO RBI: Robbie Cano has two RBI in his last 16 games. He is 20 of 102 (.196) with runners in scoring position and 37 of 152 (.243) with men on base. He is hitting .352 (62 of 176) with nobody on base.

HEATING UP: Jorge Posada is 7 of 16 with five RBI in his last three games.

OH, WHAT A RELIEF: Mariano Rivera (11 games, 11.1 innings, 1 ER); Phil Hughes (9 games, 14.2 innings, 2 ER); Phil Coke (17 games, 15.2 innings, 1 ER) and Alfredo Aceves (11 games, 18.2 innings, 2 ER) have been among the hottest relievers in the game.

BAD BRUNEY: Brian Bruney’s last six appearances: 5 innings, 8 hits, 7 walks, 4 ER. Wonder what K-Rod has to say about that?

BULLPEN BRINGS IT: The relievers have allowed 8 ER in the last 34.2 innings in the last 13 games. They have given up 24 hits, walked 11 and struck out 39.

ONE-RUN UPDATE: The Yankees were once 9-4 in one-run games. They are 2-6 since.

A-ROD UPDATE: Alex Rodriguez is 14 of his last 26 with five homers and 1R RBI.

POWER OUTAGE: Mark Teixeira has gone 84 at-bats (back to June 12) without a home run.

Back with more later. Keep in mind the game is an hour later than usual.

UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: The Yankees released Angel Berroa today.

UPDATE, 4:52 p.m.: Alfredo Aceves just threw a bullpen and said he was told he’s starting on Thursday.

UPDATE, 6:56 p.m.: While I’m happy for the chatter on the blog, I think people are getting way ahead of themselves on the idea of Roy Halladay coming to the Yankees. A few points:

• He’s three years older than Johan Santana was when the Yankees decided against trading for him.

• Toronto is not going to want to trade him within the division unless they get knocked out by a deal. Think Cano, Chamberlain, Jackson, Hughes, Montero, etc. Players like that. Don’t waste time trying to come up with 17 players the Yankees don’t need. You’ll need to experience pain to make this deal. Real pain.

• Holliday has roughly $7 million left this season. I no longer believe what the Yankees say about budgets. But that’s a lot to add. The Yankees wanted money back from Pittsburgh to take on Eric Hinske.

• The Phillies need him a lot more. And it takes him out of the league.

• The Jays could theoretically get more in December than they could now.

• Halladay has a no-trade clause. So he will want to be compensated in some form for waiving that. That means a contract extension. Think $36 million over two more years or a total commitment of $60 million or so over 3.5 years.

Yes, it’s fun playing GM. But such a trade has a lot of hurdles to overcome.

UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game:

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Sad news for you Frankie Cervelli fans. The Yankees will not be keeping three catchers once Jose Molina comes back and that could well be tomorrow.

UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: We’re underway here at the Metrodome. Should be a good series as the Twins seek some revenge against the Yankees, who have been terrific for the last two weeks. CC knows this team and they know him. Fun game to watch. Hard not to admire how the Twins play the game.

UPDATE, 8:22 p.m.: Nobody hotter than Godzilla at the moment. He’s 10 of 19 with 11 RBI. Clutch as always, he has the Yankees up 1-0.

UPDATE, 8:35 p.m.: It is great to watch Cervelli sprint — and I mean sprint — up the line to back-up throws to first base. It’s like he’s racing the runner. A.J. Burnett and I were talking about ‘Frisco before the game. He gets a kick out of him, too. “It’s great to be 23 and have that kind of energy,” he said.

UPDATE, 8:53 p.m.: Yankees already have seven hits off Baker and lead 3-0. They’ve already had eight plate appearances with runners in scoring position. Just relentless.

UPDATE, 8:55 p.m.: A-Rod lets Baker off the hook. It’s 3-0 and the Twins probably feel a little lucky. CC can pound the strike zone now.

UPDATE, 9:32 p.m.: Bases loaded, no outs, up 3-0 and a reliever in. Time to step on Minnesota’s neck.

UPDATE, 9:35 p.m.: Wow, fantastic catch by Carlos Gomez as he robs A-Rod of a grand slam in dead center. Perfect leap, exactly times. Four runs becomes one. Yankees 4-1.

UPDATE, 9:41 p.m.: Yanks work a couple of walks and now lead 5-1. They have nine hits and four walks in this game and only five runs in four innings. They need a soul-crunching double or home run. Alex nearly had it.

UPDATE, 9:45 p.m.: Hey, Robbie Cano couldn’t get a hit with RISP. Give me a few minutes to look up whether that has happened very often.

UPDATE, 9:47 p.m.: By golly, it has. Cano is 0 for his last 21 with RISP according to the estimable Mr. King of the Post.

UPDATE, 10:02 p.m.: Jose Molina was 0 for 1 for Trenton with a walk and a HBP. He caught seven innings and apparently was fine. I would think he’ll be here tomorrow or the next day.

UPDATE, 10:21 p.m.: The odds were with Cano and he delivered a broken-bat single into right field. Yankees 7-1 and CC Sabathia is in the driver’s seat. Yankees could get him go a while, too. Save that bullpen for the next two days.

UPDATE, 10:24 p.m.: Gritty! Gutty! Two-run triple and it’s 9-1. That was like watching the U.S. 200 trials. Gardner was racing around the bases.

UPDATE, 10:26 p.m.: Cisco may be going down, but he’s going down fighting. 2 for 3 with two RBI. Good for him.

It’s 10-1 and the good people of Minnesota are leaving in droves.

UPDATE, 10:51 p.m.: Every starter now has at least one hit. The bottom third of the order — Cano, GGBG and Cervelli — are 6 of 11 with five runs scored and six RBI.

UPDATE, 10:59 p.m.: CC at 99 after seven. Let him go one more? Minnesota has scored one run in its last 24 innings against him.

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1,627 Responses to “Game 83: Yankees at Twins (Updates: Aceves to start Thurs., Halladay talk and Girardi pre-game audio)”

  1. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Bruney needs to get it together.

  2. Stateman52 July 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Girardi was seen leaving Jeter’s room with a nosebleed.

  3. Jerkface July 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Tex is saving his HRs for the second half.

  4. Tommy H July 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Let’s go CC, big bounce back game-

  5. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    im looking for a big come back start for CC…he knows his job and realizes they lost yesterday and its time to start a winning streak again! Lets get #1!

  6. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Those still smarting about Halladay should read this post. Mind, adult language.

    http://bit.ly/3gtZRp

  7. Dave July 7th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Bill Smith completely screwed up the Santana negotiations.

    Remember… Hughes, Melky, Marquez was on the table for a 48-72 hour period. Smith said he wanted more thinking he could dupe Hank, and then Hank stepped in with his “teams ask more from us than other teams” rant, then the Twins got angry at Hank and accused him of tampering, then the whole negotiation fell apart and Hughes was off the table.

    And remember, for that one night after negotiations with us fell through, it looked like Boston was going to be getting Santana. They exchanged Lester’s medical records and all the news outlets said it was close to a done deal and it looked like a done deal. Then Minnesota wanted Kalish? or someone in addition to Lester and they walked away.

    So from Hughes or Lester, the Twins settled with Carlos Gomez. Smith took the Yankees/Sox bidding war too far, he looked like the rookie GM that he was.

  8. Tommy H July 7th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    It’s amazing that Jeter has never been thrown out of a game- does anyone remember the game (I can’t!) that Bernie was arguing a call and the catcher said something to him and then Bernie started jawing at the catcher? I loved it, just can’t remember the exact game- don’t think he got run either-

  9. Insert July 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    If we get Vernon Wells, then what the heck do we do with Gardner and A=Jack, both who deserve starting spots in our OF next year?

  10. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    UPDATE: Ricciardi showed up on Mike Hogan’s show on the Fan 590 this morning to address this tiresome non-story:

    “We’re not putting up a sign that says we’re trading Roy Halladay. I think that’s the furthest thing from what’s going on right now.”

    “We’re not out there shopping him, but like any of our players, if someone comes knocking, we wouldn’t be doing our job if we don’t listen.”

    “That’s what it’s like this time of year, during the trading period.”

    “We’ve always said that a) we don’t want to trade Roy Halladay, and b) if we do decide to trade Roy Halladay, it’s going to be very painful for the other organization.”

  11. Red Dragons July 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    JP Riccardi is the same one who made sure that Halladay and Burnett were lined up in every series we played them. Burnett was actually started on short rest in the middle of the season just to face the Yanks, if you remember. Halladay was also often given extra rest so he would line up with us.

    Riccardi hates us, he is not giving us Halladay. He’ll take a lesser package from LA, Philly, Mets etc. than give him to us.

  12. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    # Rebecca–Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Those still smarting about Halladay should read this post. Mind, adult language.

    http://bit.ly/3gtZRp

    ———————–

    Hah, that’s classic. JP’s right though, if he’s making a deal, it WILL hurt the other team very dearly. Since the starting bid would be two high draft picks, its not like the Jays get zero if he does decide to walk.

  13. Andrew July 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Bill Smith has not done much good since he’s taken over the Twinkies, the Santana deal at the top (bottom?) of the list. He also managed to trade Matt Garza (now pretty much an established #2 pitcher in the AL East) for the worst young OFer the Rays produced, and has never addressed their glaring need at 3rd base except for signing a guy with a bad back that constantly needs days off (to play on the TURF home field, no less).

    But I guess the fans can’t be too unhappy, since they do have Joe Mauer AKA Ted Williams 2009.

  14. Peter Abraham July 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Yes, I have heard the Roy Halladay rumors. Just consider these two factors: If Toronto does want to trade him, it will not be within the division. And the Yankees needed money to come from the Pirates to make the Eric Hinske deal. So they’ll just pick up Halladay’s $7 million and give up a boatload of prospects? I don’t see it.

    I put nothing past the Yankees in terms of money. But why would Toronto trade him to a team they have to play 19 times a year?

  15. Bulldoza July 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Joba, Banelous, Jorge Vasquez, and Mike Dunn for Halladay

    And if they wanted us to take Wells, they replace Banelous with Igawa.

  16. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    And on another note, Bill Smith was better off letting Santana walk and get the 2 draft picks instead of getting an overhyped pinch runner and a bunch of B prospects for him.

  17. tampayank July 7th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Halladay if traded, would probably end up in the NL…The Twins are insane for not building a retractable roof for their new ballpark, April and May will be miserable there

  18. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    I went to the Metrodome a few years back. An almost surreal experience. Indoor baseball is not good IMO.

    Dome’s are just sad, depressing places to watch a game.

    Never been to the Trop but at least it’s on nice bay.

    Hey, it’ll be tough next April in their new stadium but those Twin fans are going to go nuts in the warm weather.

  19. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    If Halladay is traded to the NL, that would already be a win for the Yankees, it’s one less thorn to worry about.

  20. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    You’re right Pete. It’ll never happen. But it’s fun to speculate.

    Would you give up either Joba or Hughes straight up for Halladay? Utter hogwash, I know, but fun to talk about.

  21. Patrick from CT July 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    The only way Roy Halladay comes to the Yankees is as a FA.

  22. rconn23 July 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    July 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
    “Joba, Banelous, Jorge Vasquez, and Mike Dunn for Halladay”

    Joba, along with an Low-A player, a 27-year old platoon player in Double AA and a wildly unproven reliever won’t even come close to getting it done.

  23. Marcus July 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Weather in Minnesota is supposed to get some T-Showers right around gametime…. there may be a delay to start the game tonight.

  24. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    JP has 3 opportunities to move Halladay.

    Now, the off-season or next trade deadline.

    If he doesn’t move him, Doc leaves for 2 first round picks after next year when he becomes a free agent.

    The question is, if he decides to trade him, when is his value at its greatest?

    Also, if he decides to trade him, since Doc has a full no trade, and will want an extension to waive it, where can he trade him to fulfill everybody’s desires.

    That limits his market extensively. Probably why its going to be tough to trade him.

  25. Andrew July 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Marcus that will be the first time there are ever thunderstorms inside a dome, in the history of sports.

  26. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Spending April in upstate NY is horrid enough; I can’t imagine how awful it will be in Minnesota.

    So who wants to bet we open 2010 in Minneapolis/St. Paul?

  27. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Marcus July 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Weather in Minnesota is supposed to get some T-Showers right around gametime…. there may be a delay to start the game tonight.

    ———————-

    Metrodome. Emphasis on the “dome” part.

  28. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    RT @YankeesPR: 7/7 lineup: Jeter SS, Damon LF, Teixeira 1B, Rodriguez 3B, Matsui DH, Swisher RF, Cano 2B, Gardner CF, Cervelli C, Sabathia P

    Canó is still out of the five spot…. wonder why Melky’s getting the day off or if it’s just a random day off type thing.

  29. m July 7th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Pete,

    No offense, but picking up money from the Pirates says more about Hinske than the Yankee purse strings.

    Totally agree with you about the division, though.

    I think, too, Doc will have his say. Will be as picky as Peavy?

  30. joe waster July 7th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    QUOTE
    “You’re right Pete. It’ll never happen. But it’s fun to speculate.”

    —–

    Sure, like Tex wasn’t even close of coming to the bronx, remeber?

  31. sab July 7th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Riccardi hates us, he is not giving us Halladay. He’ll take a lesser package from LA, Philly, Mets etc. than give him to us.
    ===========================================================
    …and 3 days later will be fired for not taking the best package for Halladay…you need to learn from the Twins’ Santana mistake – or else pay the price with your job….

  32. Joe Monte July 7th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    I can see Nolan Ryan making a push to acquire Roy Halladay. Tough to say if it could happen with Tom Hicks defaulting on bond payments and the team ownership in disarray, but Texas has a ton of prospects and they can pull it off.

  33. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Looks like Baker has never faced the Yankees

    http://www.baseball-reference......as=pitcher

  34. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    joe waster-So Tex played in the AL East?

  35. tampayank July 7th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    imagine if the Dodgers got Halladay this season

  36. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Nevermind, I’m lying. Stupid Match case was checked.

  37. H-Town July 7th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Baker is 2-0 with a 1.50 ERA against us in 2 starts. He has not faced us since 06, however.

  38. BD July 7th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    So the fact that Pittsburgh agreed to eat $500k means the Yankees will never take on another big salary? I’m not buying that.

    Also, while a trade for Halliday is obviously unlikely, let’s please avoid making any definitive pronouncements about what the Yankees are up to. Remember the Teixeira signing? Pete completely missed the boat on that one. (He wasn’t alone in this, but still.)

  39. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    I doubt Halladay gets moved in the near future. Too many complications, he let Burnett walk, I don’t see why he couldn’t do the same with Halladay and pick up high compensation picks in return.

  40. Carl C. July 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Dodgers with Halladay will easily win the WS.

    I really hope Riccardi doesn’t help Torre win another ring, but considering he hates the Yanks, I wouldn’t consider it past JP to subtly tick off the Yanks by trading him to Torre…..

  41. CountryClub July 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Pete, read the last thread. We make some valid points. But ultimately, I think most of us agree that he’s not getting moved (especially not in the AL East).

  42. joe waster July 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    If we do Offer a very nice Package, there’s no way they turn it down PERIOD.

    We got the tools for that deal, any doubt about this?

    quote sab
    “…and 3 days later will be fired for not taking the best package for Halladay…you need to learn from the Twins’ Santana mistake – or else pay the price with your job….”

    If the yankees wants him, they’ll get him.

    Twins did us a favor.

  43. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Too bad Halladay doesn’t play for Pittsburgh. If he did he’d already be on the Yankees by now. Or the Red Sox.

  44. Chris July 7th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Let the Halladay rumors fly between now and the end of July to see how Joba changes his game approach if he thinks he’s part of the deal with no leverage whatsoever. This could be a good wakeup call. Joba likes the NYC scene and the serenity of Toronto is not for him.

  45. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Can someone fill me in on where all this Halliday talk started? My internet connection was down all day.

  46. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Jeter 1-5 (2b), BB, K
    Damon 2-6 (2b), K
    Teixeira 2-5 (HR)
    Rodriguez 0-5, 3K
    Matsui 0-3
    Swisher 2-9, (2b, HR), BB, 3K
    Canó 1-4

    Gardner and Cervelli have not faced Baker

  47. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    joe waster-We’d need to offer everything AND the kitchen sink to get Toronto to move Haladay in the division. I won’t say there’s no way it happens but it is very unlikely.

  48. Joe Monte July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Halladay IS NOT getting traded to the Yankees.

  49. Mike Sanders July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Frank & Beans
    July 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    I apologize to Pete about the picture. Im a big fan and would not to dis him.

    Forgive me Pete. Your awesome for putting up with our garbage!

    Real Pic
    http://yankeesvoice.mlblogs.com/

  50. V Torch July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    ESPN – The Brewers are not happy with Ryan Braun’s recent call for some changes.

    “It was inappropriate for him to say what he said, and I’m not happy about it,” general manager Doug Melvin told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Monday.

    “To make the statements he made and also get on his teammates like that, it was irresponsible on his part. It just ticked me off.”

    Braun voiced his frustrations on Sunday after the team lost 8-2 to the rival Cubs, calling out the team’s starting pitching.

    “[The Cubs] starting pitching is a lot better than ours,” Braun said. “They threw the ball a lot better than our starters did. They certainly swung the bats better than we did. Clearly they were the better team. It’s nice to get the one win but they clearly outplayed us and outperformed us all series.”

    Braun then called out Melvin, looking for a bit of a shakeup.

    “We’re at the point right now where it would be important for us to go out there and acquire somebody,” Braun said.

    “I know [Melvin] is trying to make our ballclub better. I know he recognizes the importance of making a move and making it soon, but at the same time I think everybody’s recognized there’s a lot of teams that are still in the race.”

  51. CountryClub July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    The Rangers arent going after Halladay. They just had to borrow money from MLB to stay in business.

  52. Scorpio July 7th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    So does this mean the Cano-#5 spot experiment is over? Hope so.

  53. m July 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    WYH,

    Ricciardi said he’d be open to listening to offers for Doc. He actually had to clarify that he’s not trading Halladay, but that he’d be open to answering the phone and listening to offers.

    He’s already talked to Doc about the possibility of being traded.

    That means he’s gone.

  54. pat July 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Pete

    I think you may be inflating Alex’s stats above. :shock:

  55. sab July 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    The Rangers arent going after Halladay. They just had to borrow money from MLB to stay in business.

    =======================================================

    hmmm – how about cano and 5 million dollars for kinsler?

  56. joe waster July 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    WTTCTOHA – you said: “It’ll never happen”

    Just remember, the Jays still have to deal with Wells/Rios contracts before signing extension with Doc, that could lead for a huge trade (of course), but let’s say Hughes or Joba in the pack, won’t be hard to fill this package cause in my opinion THEY WILL TRADE.

  57. Tank July 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Marcus
    July 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Weather in Minnesota is supposed to get some T-Showers right around gametime…. there may be a delay to start the game tonight.

    ——————

    Ugh, I guess it was too much to ask 5 days in a row without a rain delay….

  58. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Reports are JP is putting him on the market to see if the offers are tempting.

    The Jays have some issues. Their owner died and the rumors are that the baseball people are being told to shed payroll.

    Nobody wants to take on Vernon Wells’ contract. Rios is a guy they still believe in and want to build around.

    Doc is a FA after next year and JP is probably looking at when is the right time to deal him since the rumors around the industry is that he isn’t re-signing with the Jays.

    Hence, today’s stories about his availablity.

    As far as the Rangers? They have the prospects but, they don’t have the cash until they are sold.

    So far, no real buyers have emerged for the franchise.

    Last I heard, Nolan Ryan is trying to put together a group to buy the team from Tom Hicks.

  59. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    “The Rangers arent going after Halladay. They just had to borrow money from MLB to stay in business.

    =======================================================

    hmmm – how about cano and 5 million dollars for kinsler?”

    In a heartbeat.

  60. CountryClub July 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Wave:

    Olney and Heyman have both said that Ricardi is willing to listen. And that he asked Halladay if he’d be open to move if the right deal came down the pike. Obviosuly that doesnt mean he’ll get moved. But it did strike up the conversation.

  61. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Thanks, m.

    It must be awfully frustrating being a Jays fan. Probably the 6th best team in the AL, and the team is already thinking about dumping talent, I guess.

  62. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    “Weather in Minnesota is supposed to get some T-Showers right around gametime…. there may be a delay to start the game tonight.

    ——————

    Ugh, I guess it was too much to ask 5 days in a row without a rain delay….”

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Uh, dude, game’s indoors tonight.

  63. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    The Twins play in a dome. There won’t be a rain delay.

    Hopefully, we won’t have more “ugh another rain delay” posts after folks figure out the dome actually prevents rain delays.

  64. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    “hmmm – how about cano and 5 million dollars for kinsler?”

    Haha sure I’ll take that deal!

  65. m July 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    If you’re the Blue Jays and you’re thinking about trading with the Yankees, do you insist on Joba or Hughes? (or Aceves ;) )

  66. CountryClub July 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Rain delay? It’s a dome.

  67. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    joe waster-Hyperbole.

    I really doubt it’ll happen. But no, I don’t think there’s absolutely no chance whatsoever. I give it less than a ten percent chance of landing Halladay though.

    I’d be totally thrilled if we got him, though.

    And I doubt they will trade in division. They are a team that is getting better. Why would they trade their bets player to one of the teams that could hurt them the most?

    Tank-They play in a dome.

  68. Sevrx July 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Anyone but Montero for Halladay

    They can have Joba or Hughes

  69. Scorpio July 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    What rain delay?
    The Twins play in a dome the last time I checked.

  70. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Tank is probably thinking two years ahead.

  71. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Is that what domes do????????

  72. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    bets is best.

  73. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    “Let the Halladay rumors fly between now and the end of July to see how Joba changes his game approach if he thinks he’s part of the deal with no leverage whatsoever. This could be a good wakeup call. Joba likes the NYC scene and the serenity of Toronto is not for him.”

    thats an interesting angle…it could either give him that reality check thats says hes not untouchable and needs to perform better OR it could send him into a downward spiraling tube of anxiety and despair (im banking on the first option)

  74. Matt July 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Halladay/Chapman > one of Joba/Hughes

    When you have a chance to get a guy like Halladay, you do it.

  75. Frank & Beans July 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    ITS A DOME!

    What rain delay

  76. m July 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Guys, I think both people were joking. Everyone knows it’s a dome. Right? Right?!

  77. NITRO July 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Imagine playing outdoors in Minneapolis in late March/April?

  78. tampayank July 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    “# Rebecca–Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    “The Rangers arent going after Halladay. They just had to borrow money from MLB to stay in business.

    =======================================================

    hmmm – how about cano and 5 million dollars for kinsler?”

    In a heartbeat.

    so I should hold off on buying a Cano jersey?:(
    I’m a big fan of Cano’s swing and hope he can be a little more consistent and successful w/ RISP….but I’m a big fan of Kinsler too, he got hosed w/ the all star vote w/ lucky charm man getting his spot

  79. jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Jackson, Montero and Melancon should get you Roy Halladay.

  80. Rich James July 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    JP has said he really doesn’t see the Jays and Halladay having a future after next season.

    So the question is: Does JP think they can win a world series between now and then??

    If the answer is no…then they HAVE to deal him!

  81. joe waster July 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    WTTC-

    In my opinion whoever takes DOC, must give him whatever he wants for extesion right? So then, you give a bunch of good prospects + extension.

    Can you list teams that can afford it? (beside yankees of course)

    My prediction:
    Yankees
    Phillies
    Jays (they trade him on the offseason after CY win)

  82. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    jfinfonsfosnf-No way Montero is being traded.

  83. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    “Imagine playing outdoors in Minneapolis in late March/April?”

    It’s been done before, and in 2011 will be done again.

  84. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Will it be raining inside the dome? :?
    What rain delay

  85. Tyler July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    jfinfonsfosnf
    July 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
    Jackson, Montero and Melancon should get you Roy Halladay.

    ++++++++++++++++

    Yeah it would. That’s why you don’t offer that much.

  86. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Um I think the original poster was joking.

  87. AD July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Nice to see Cano dropped to seventh. Mental mistakes, nonchalant attitude and terrible average with RISP deserves nothing less.

    Earn it back Robbie. That’s the only way he should move up from that 7 spot.

  88. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    I think tonight’s game might be delayed, the Minneapolis CostCo ran out of Hefty bags. :(

  89. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    If the Yanks trade Monstero I am no longer a Yankees fan.

    As addicted as Brandon is to Tabata?

    I’m more addicted to Montero.

  90. Mark in Tampa July 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    “Joe Mauer (5 of 16, 2 home runs, 3 RBI) and Justin Morneau (9 of 16, 3 homers, 5 RBI) destroyed the Yankees back in May. The duo scored seven runs and drew eight walks.”

    Really? Destroyed? I thought the Yankees swept that series. May have been more accurate to say that they hit well in a losing effort. Or that they were the only Twins who put up a fight in the destruction by the Yanks.

  91. Zolio July 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    In fact, in an exclusive interview with The Post, Cashman strongly indicated the Yankees will not even sign Sabathia and Teixeira in tandem.

    “At the pricetags I have read, that is fantasy land, not reality land,” Cashman said yesterday of bringing in Sabathia and Teixeira. A Yankees executive said the club has not even created scenarios for assembling a 2009 roster in which it signs the most attractive starter and position player in the free-agent market.

    “There has been speculation that we can pull down two or three of the top [free agents], and people are just getting carried away. That is not feasible. That is completely unrealistic.”

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/11.....138588.htm

  92. Mike July 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    I’m coming down from the Halladay trade rumors. . I think the yanks should stand pat. .and look for another solid number 3 pitcher. someone like Doug Davis

  93. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Why don’t we go back and get all the Santana threads, and substitute “Halliday” for “Santana”. The arguments will be exactly the same, except now the Yanks have added CC and AJ.

  94. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    joe waster-There is definitely a “too much” point.

    If the Jays ask for (and they very well could) Hughes/Joba, AJax, Montero, Melancon, and Brackman, you don’t do it.

    For that matter, you could take out Melancon (just picking a random name) and they still don’t do it.

  95. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Jackson, Montero and Melancon should get you Roy Halladay.

    ————————-

    I’d walk away from any package that included Montero.

  96. Pauly July 7th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Nice job rebutting the myth that Canadians are incapable of being unfriendly Rebecca, poor little Kenneth haha

  97. Johnny D. July 7th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Domed stadiums should be banned.

  98. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Zolio-Bwahahahaha…

    Cashman, you kidder you…

  99. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    “I’m coming down from the Halladay trade rumors. . I think the yanks should stand pat. .and look for another solid number 3 pitcher. someone like Doug Davis”

    This I like. What’d it take to get him?

  100. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    The Blue Jays have a ton of OF’s in their farm system. I don’t think they are looking for an OF, which takes Jackson off the table.

    Hughes or Joba would definitely have to be one part of a deal.

    I think another pitcher would also have to be included.

    Montero is off limits. Austin Romine could be a deal because the Yankees have a ton of catching depth and the Jays are light in their system of catching prospects.

  101. sab July 7th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Jackson, Montero and Melancon should get you Roy Halladay.

    ————————-

    I’d walk away from any package that included Montero.

    ______________________________________________________

    i’m still sticking with take montero out of the deal include wang and romine AND take on Wells contract and halladay will be pitching in a yankee uniform on August 1st

  102. joe waster July 7th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    “Why don’t we go back and get all the Santana threads, and substitute “Halliday” for “Santana”. The arguments will be exactly the same, except now the Yanks have added CC and AJ.”

    Agreed.

    But on that point of view, we will end up with Halladay if Jays has learnt something about the past. Right?

  103. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint July 7th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    I still remember, I was just a lurker when all the Santana trade stuff was going on. Who was that insider person again? Bobcat? Bobkitten?

    Memories :P

  104. CountryClub July 7th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Yanks will not trade Jesus. You dont trade one of the top 10 bats in all of Milb. Those you hold on to.

  105. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Igawa for Halladay, stright up!

    And Ransom for David Wrihgt, and Pena for Hanley Ramirez, and Swisher (he plays first base) for Pujols, and Cervelli for Mauer, and…

  106. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Oh that Bobcat.

    You hear what they want you to hear…

  107. Seldom July 7th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Want to create payroll for Halladay? Simple.

    Let Damon/Matsui walk and replace them with Monstero next year.

    $27 million freed up.

  108. Mark in Tampa July 7th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    For those willing to give up Joba, Hughes, or both for Halladay, think back to the Santana non-deal. It looked like a bad move last year when Phil couldn’t get anybody out, but with him pitching well now, and Santana starting to lose some effectiveness; I am glad that move was never made. And Santana is younger than Halladay. I think it would be a short-sighted move that would work out for a season or two, but that’s it. Then we would be haunted by the former Yankee pitchers for years to come.

  109. Mike July 7th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    To get someone like Doug Davis . a couple of mid level prospects !. With Joba rocky .. Wang Hurt .and Pettite hot and cold. .We could use another solid pitcher

  110. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Rebecca–Optimist Prime
    July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
    If the Yanks trade Monstero I am no longer a Yankees fan.

    As addicted as Brandon is to Tabata?

    I’m more addicted to Montero.

    ***
    But you are nowhere near Betsy/Phil Hughes levels

  111. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Why don’t we go back and forth on the “Cashman said they will never sign Tex” threads while we are at it.

    If Halladay is on the market, really on the market and not just JP talking out of his butt again, the Yankees will be right in the middle of those talks.

    Especially if the Red Sox are because that’s what got ownership to give Cash the money to sign Tex. They didn’t want to see Tex in Boston.

    Hal Steinbrenner wants no part of Roy Halladay in Boston.

    If he’s actually on the market, the Yankees will be all over it.

  112. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Mark in Tampa-I doubt Santana is losing effectiveness…more probably a slump.

  113. sab July 7th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    The Blue Jays have a ton of OF’s in their farm system. I don’t think they are looking for an OF, which takes Jackson off the table.

    Hughes or Joba would definitely have to be one part of a deal.

    I think another pitcher would also have to be included.

    Montero is off limits. Austin Romine could be a deal because the Yankees have a ton of catching depth and the Jays are light in their system of catching prospects.

    ______________________________________________________

    SJ44 you don’t think including a healthy wang instead of hughes or joba and kicking in another high end prospect (melancon?) with romine, and 1 other above average AAA pitcher (mccalister) and they take on Wells contract wouldn’t do it?

  114. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Rule of thumb: Any player is obtainable for the right price.

    The question is what you are willing to pay.

  115. m July 7th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Yah, I think the Yankees got to kick the tires on Halladay.

    And really tough to put the horse back in the barn after you open the door.

    There’s no future for Halladay in Toronto, like there was no future for Santana in minny.

  116. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Different situation. I doubt Toronto is dealing within the division.

    Yankees AND Red Sox will talk, but I don’think either team, or the Rays, or the Orioles for that matter, are going to get Halladay.

  117. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    “Rebecca–Optimist Prime
    July 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
    If the Yanks trade Monstero I am no longer a Yankees fan.

    As addicted as Brandon is to Tabata?

    I’m more addicted to Montero.

    ***
    But you are nowhere near Betsy/Phil Hughes levels”

    just wait and see…people change…it happens fast..they say montero is like a drug..you get addicted so fast but you dont realize it…soon she’ll be hustling people for money in order for her to get her Jesus tattoo!

  118. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Remember: they only Twitter what they want you to Twitter.

  119. 7 UP July 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    “Hal Steinbrenner wants no part of Roy Halladay in Boston.

    If he’s actually on the market, the Yankees will be all over it.”

    Bingo, SJ. We’re going to be right in the thick of this pursuit. It’s all setup for us to do so.

  120. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Should NY consider a Wang OR Hughes trade-combo FOR Roy “Doc” Halladay???

    TOR is taking offers.

    I’d trade either and then some. Both? Maybe.

    ;)

    -he’s the best ace in the league.

    What will Red Sox put up???

    Rays???

    Yanks on 9 for 11 roll. :)

    Kudos to Jorge “En Fuego” Posada.

  121. Ramey July 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    “To get someone like Doug Davis . a couple of mid level prospects !. With Joba rocky .. Wang Hurt .and Pettite hot and cold. .We could use another solid pitcher”

    Except that Doug Davis isn’t really a solid pitcher. He’s got a solid ERA no doubt, but he walks over 4 batters per 9 innings and would let up a TON of home runs in Yankee Stadium, which isn’t saying much since everybody lets up a ton here.

  122. Joe(Living in Texas) July 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Montero will not be in the Big Leagues next year until June/July, and that is a stretch, because that would mean he has to get promoted to AAA this year. Maybe a september call up next year, and he starts next year in AAA. He is only what, 19? You dont rush those kinds of players

  123. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Ramey-Solid ERA is the important thing.

  124. joe waster July 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    With or without Halladay, the Jays has no chance making the playoffs, let’s say for the next 3-4 years. That’s my point why I believe they can deal him within the division.

  125. Mark in Tampa July 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    “I doubt Santana is losing effectiveness…more probably a slump”

    What about all the talk last season that his fastball was off by @3MPH? Also, he is in the NL. Whether it is a slump or decline, do you think that would play out very well with Yankee fans? Hughes in Minn would almost certainly have been in the rotation the past two seasons. If he was doing well, the pressure on Santana would have been unbearable, IMO.

  126. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    SJ44-

    If you do go back to the Tex threads, you will see me insisting they would sign Tex. :)

    Having signed Tex, CC, and AJ, I am much less sanguine about the Yanks wanting to add Halliday as well. But don’t let my pessimism/realism rain on your parade.

    “Let Damon/Matsui walk and replace them with Monstero next year.”

    Projecting Montero to hit 29 HR, 34 2B’s, 4 3B’s and 87 RBI’s by July 6th of next year is probably a little aggressive, don’t you think?

  127. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Frankly, if Doc is really on the market, the Jays have no better matchup than the Yankees.

    It fulfills all they would need to get a big return for him and have him waive his no trade.

    They would get their catcher of the future (Romine).

    A good, young starter (Joba or Hughes).

    The spare parts of the deal would be the spare parts. None of which would be dealbreakers.

    JP could tell ownership he got a bigger return for Doc than Minnesota got for Santana. Which would be the truth.

    The Yankees get him, still keep one of Joba and Hughes, keep Montero, and can (if they choose) replace the young pitcher they lost by signing Chapman in the off-season.

    Its one of those rare moments in these type of deals where the Yankees not only have the personnel to give up….giving up the personnel won’t shut down the farm system for years. That’s how much depth they have in the system at the present time.

    The money? I ain’t drinkin’ the Yankee Kool Aid about the payroll anymore.

    Two years ago, they anted up for Clemens and paid him stupid money for a half season of work.

    This off-season, there was “no way” they could sign AJ, CC and Tex in one off-season. How did that turn out?

    When the Yankees turn away from a guy like Doc Halladay because of money, let me know becuase it will be a first.

    If he does end up getting traded, and the Yankees don’t get him, it won’t be because of money, IMO.

  128. m July 7th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Brandon probably thinks those Tex threads aren’t too awesome. ;)

  129. Doris from Rego Park July 7th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Anyone here been to Citifield? Im going tonight (6th row above the Dodgers dugout)and curious to see how it stacks up against YS.

  130. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    “Montero will not be in the Big Leagues next year until June/July, and that is a stretch, because that would mean he has to get promoted to AAA this year. Maybe a september call up next year, and he starts next year in AAA. He is only what, 19? You dont rush those kinds of players”

    Actually it is not entirely out of the question that Montero skips AAA entirely.

    Right now–and we need the rest of the season at AA to be sure–but right now it looks like he’ll learn much more, at least defensively from the likes of Tony Peña, Joe Girardi and JoPo than the marginally better pitching at AAA.

  131. Ramey July 7th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Davis wouldn’t be really an “upgrade” over the recent ineffectiveness of Pettitte or Joba. He’s a 5th starter at best, but why would the Yankees trade anybody for that when they could call up the likes of an Igawa or a Mitre who would provide you roughly the same thing; innings.

  132. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    joe waster-I disagree. They have a shot (outside, but a shot THIS YEAR. Next year I can definitely see them making a move.

    Mark-People forget that he won a Cy Young in Minnesota. The AL.

    Santana will start pitching consistently like Santana again soon, you wait and see. He always does great on the stretch run.

  133. randy l. July 7th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    “And Livan Hernandez keeps getting away with looking good in pitchers parks or good defensive units behind him. He gives up way to many hits and would be a disaster in Yankee stadium.
    Don’t know why everyone on this blog keeps advocating him.”

    jerkface-

    you knucklehead. it’s an inside joke that started when i used livan to point out the folly of cashman pitching hughes and kennedy last spring for 40 % of the rotation.

    i was challenged to come up with someone better than hughes and kennedy so i looked and came up with livan. then because he won so much despite not being very good it became the in joke with nick in sf leading the way .

    livan is still better than you think though. he’d win 15 games with the yankees. he’d throw that soft little inside fastball to lefties and they’d hit it into the upper deck foul for a strike and he’d own them then. he’s smarter than people give him credit for. he really know how to pitch.

    of course with his lack of stuff he has to pitch smart or he’d get killed every time out.

  134. Eric July 7th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Santana was 29 and was on the decline. He had the highest ERA of his career as a starter in 2007. There were questions about his elbow and he stopped throwing his slider in the 2nd half. He also has a small-ish frame and were questions if he would hold up… he is also a change-up pitcher that was starting to lose FB velocity.

    Doc is completely different. He is getting better as he gets older. He has the perfect pitchers frame. No warning signs like they were for Santana. Doc is going to age much better than a Santana will.

    If you need to trade one of Hughes or Joba for Halladay, you do it in a heartbeat.

  135. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Here is the beauty of all this from the Yankees perspective….

    They have to know they have the parts to do the deal.

    If Toronto balks, the Yankees walk away, no harm, no foul.

    Where does Toronto go?

    Doc has a full no trade and isn’t just going to waive it for nothing.

    If Toronto doesn’t deal him, they get 2 picks for him. Not a good tradeoff for them.

    The economy severely limits legitimate, available suitors.

    The Yankess and Doc, more than JP and the Jays, control this situation.

    This is why you stockpile the farm system again folks.

    It gives you options when a guy like this hits the market.

    If you can’t make a deal? No problem.

    But, if you can? You own the AL East from a rotation standpoint, for the next 3-4 years.

  136. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    second parenthesis after YEAR.

  137. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Santana was a legitimate contender for Cy Young last year. He pitched otherworldly down the stretch.

  138. Buddy Biancalana July 7th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    SJ-

    Sounds like you want Halladay, but who wouldn’t. If you had to give up either Hughes or Joba as part of the deal, who would you choose?

    My guess is Joba.

  139. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Eric-What about the groin problems this year?

    I am a HUGE fan of Halladay, he is my second favoite non Yankee pitcher in baseball besides Linececum.

  140. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Figure on signing 32 yo Doc Halladay for 25M/year for 5-6 years, and giving up major league and top quality AAA talent also. Yes I’d like him, but I don’t see it happening.We already spent our Wad on AJ and CC.

    We don’t need Doug Davis either, who would cost us very little if we’re picking up his salary.

    We need another reliable bullpen arm, keep Cano in the 7 or 8 hole, fast track Pena to learn the OF, as our super utility guy!

  141. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    If the Yankees got Santana it wouldn’t have been bad for the Yanks, but Sabathia and Burnett ultimately cost less b/c you didn’t have to give up your best prospects to get them.

    All’s fair in my eyes.

  142. Jerkface July 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    you knucklehead. it’s an inside joke that started when i used livan to point out the folly of cashman pitching hughes and kennedy last spring for 40 % of the rotation.

    Well thank the good lord it was a joke then. I thought you all were serious. I understand that Livan is smart enough to work around his deficiencies, that is why he is still employed in the majors. I just wasnt a big fan of his deficiencies or efficiencies :O

    And I think Hughes + kennedy last year was absolutely the right move, it just turned into poop.

  143. 77 Yanks July 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    If you could guarantee me that Joba will grow up and find his missing velocity…. then I will trade Hughes for Halladay, no question.

  144. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Buddy Biancalana-I’d give up Hughes.

  145. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    “Frankly, if Doc is really on the market, the Jays have no better matchup than the Yankees.”

    I totally disagree. The Yankees are in the same division, why would they want to give the best pitcher in baseball to a division rival? It makes no sense.

    Philly is the perfect fit IMO. Big market team, desperately needs the pitching, have enough prospects to make a deal.

  146. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    I’ll take it one step further….

    Andrew Brackman is struggling coming off TJ Surgery.

    Despite his struggles, he has great upside and scouts still believe in him.

    What if the Yankees put a Hughes or Joba, Brackman and Romine offer on the table for Halladay?

    Who tops that deal AND can pay Doc what he wants?

    That’s how much depth is in the system right now.

    None of it may happen. However, to have the parts to make a deal happen is 50% of a deal actually being able to happen.

    The Yankees have the parts. Its just a matter of whether or not the Jays can do better on the open market.

  147. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: The Yankees released Angel Berroa today.

  148. Chris July 7th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    The economy being what it is will see more teams than ever looking to shed payroll and certain teams cautious about adding payroll at the 7/31 trading deadline.
    Attendance is down for most teams with many fans making a conscious decision where their sports dollars can go, baseball or football.
    Teams don’t like waving a white flag but for some it’s necessary.

  149. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Rebecca-There is something to the idea that not making the Santana deal leaves us in better shape (I wouldn’t say good, but better) shape to get Halladay.

  150. Mark in Tampa July 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN,

    I don’t know if Santana is in decline or not, but he went from the AL to the NL, and all of his rate stats are getting worse. K/BB, BB/9, and hits/9 are all worse in a supposedly easier league over a season and a half. His K/9 is better than last year, but still worse than his AL numbers, and he faces the pitcher 3X per game. It is not a sharp decline, but it is noticeable coming from the peak he was; and considering what the Yanks would have had to give up to get him.

  151. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    I think there is next to no chance that Toronto trades Halladay to the Yankees.

  152. Mike July 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    I think our bullpen is set . .Hughes Bruney , Ace , Coke. we are good there .

    We really could use another starter .

  153. Aura July 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Wow, Sabathia must really hate pitching to Posada for Girardi to sit him down when he’s so hot at the plate.

  154. Bill from NJ July 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Poor Berroa..

  155. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    “Rebecca-There is something to the idea that not making the Santana deal leaves us in better shape (I wouldn’t say good, but better) shape to get Halladay.”

    Indeed.

    I still think anyone that deals Monstero for anyone less than Pujols should be taken out back…

  156. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    Patrick-I’m with you on that one.

  157. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    SJ44- You make some good points about Halladay, but they only get two picks if Toronto offers arbitration. If Holliday accepts arbitration, he could be looking at the highest one year contract ever awarded a pitcher, which would further weaken Toronto’s balance sheet.

  158. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Aura-Or Posada’s getting a break and they figure they don’t need to score as many w/CC pitching.

    One of the 2.

  159. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    “Toronto won’t trade Halladay within the AL east”

    :yeah,sure– unlike Cone, Wells the Perfect and Clemens. …Who were the “best in the league” as NY was winning rings.

    …”Prospects or compensatory for DOC HALLADAY?”

    Get serious.

    “We lost Santana”–true, but did so FOR Sabathia.

    And are now in place to dish HUGHES (maybe Wang) for Halladay.

    Its brilliant. And serious.

    Prospects. LOL

    NY can solve their future with a serious offer FOR Toronto.

    Cano and Wang?
    Hughes–straight up?
    Etc etc etc

    The rotation would be
    Doc, CC, AJ, Joba, Pettitte

    Wow! Unbeatable.
    It would cost hughes and maybe cano or melky.

  160. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    SJ44,

    Even if the Yankees have the best offer TOronto could very easily say “No thanks we’ll wait until the offseason/next trade deadline/we’ll take the picks”

    Toronto isn’t going to give Halladay to the Yankees unless they get a king’s ransom. And Cashman isn’t dumb enough to do that.

  161. The Dice Man July 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    What are Farah Faucett and Michael Jackson getting for Christmas this year?

  162. XFactor July 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    There were some red flags with Santana. There are seemingly none with Halladay. He is not your typical 32 yr old starter. Someone like AJ Burnett is probably not going to age very well. A guy like Halladay will. He is the type of guy who can pitch till 40 with his smooth mechanics and pitching aptitude.

  163. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    It makes perfect sense Patrick because the Yankees are giving up more talent than the Phillies have in any deal.

    The Blue Jays have to get back talent in return for Doc. If not, they can take the draft picks.

    Doc also has to approve a trade.

    He goes to NY, he doesn’t have to learn a new league.

    He probably would rather play in NY than Philadelphia.

    That’s my point. Its not about trading within the division.

    In a perfect world, JP wouldn’t want to trade within the division.

    However, he knows the Yankees, and the Red Sox for that matter, have better, closer to ML ready prospects, as well as guys on the 25 man roster right now, that are better than anything the Phillies put on the table.

    Plus, he probably knows Doc would approve a deal to either NY or Boston.

    The no trade clause is huge in this and Doc will use it to better himself and not the Blue Jays.

  164. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    I’m not so sure Montero grows up to be a catcher.

    Personally, I’d rather save the Halliday money to bid on Joe Mauer when he becomes a free agent. We’ll want to keep him away from the Red Sox, too.

    I think the Yanks are going to have a super rotation even without Halliday.

  165. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Paddy-A bit different than the Wells Clemens scenario. Toronto are contenders now.

  166. no.27 July 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Halladay HAS to be a lock for the Hall of Fame, right? In the last 9 seasons he’s had TWO years with an ERA over 3.25 while pitching in the toughest division in baseball. Over that time he’s had a 3.16 ERA with FORTY ONE complete games and ELEVEN complete game shut outs. His WHIP over that time is 1.13.

  167. m July 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Buddy,

    I’ve been trying to get people to answer the question of which of Hughes or Joba would Toronto insist on as key piece. No luck so far.

    It’s a toss-up, Joba’s got upside, but Hughes has shown flashes as well.

  168. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Brackman has very little value at this point. He is struggling in single A and has a major league contract.

  169. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    SJ44-New Yankee Stadium Launching pad may be a problem. Who’s to say Halladay wants to pitch here?

  170. Mark July 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    When is the last time the Phillies paid someone $20+ million?

    They have the prospects to get him, but will they pay him? Same thing with the Dodgers.

  171. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Halladay is from Colorado. The team that NYY has to worry about would be the Angels, probably more than Boston.

  172. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    He’s not giving up a kings ransom for him. That’s my point.

    Hughes or Joba, Brackman, and Romine for example aren’t a “kings ransom.

    Its actually a fair, sellable deal for both sides.

    The Yankees still keep one of their young stud starters.

    They still have Montero and Cervelli as young catchers in the system.

    They still have several well regarded Single A pitching prospects.

    Its probably the best deal he can get, unless the Red Sox step up bigtime.

    The no trade, limited teams because of the economy, and the tight windows to move him, dictate this deal.

    Toronto has to trade him unless they can unload Vernon Wells’ contract.

    He’s getting traded, IMO. The issue is, where and the terms at this point.

  173. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    While no. 27 brings up HOF discussion, here’s an interesting question: If Moose gets into the Hall, who does he go in as, an Oriole or a Yankee? He pitched longer as an Oriole but all his WS appearances and most (if not all, I’m not sure) of his playoff appearances are with the Yankees, as well as his only 20 win season. What do you guys think?

  174. Homer July 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Burnett should privately tell Halladay to try and facilitate a trade to the Yankees. Remember, he has the NTC, the power is in his hands.

  175. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    I’d say less than 5% chance Halladay ever wears a Yankee uniform. Less than 1% chance he is traded to the Yankees this year.

    Trust me guys these numbers are based on highly scientific calculations. You wouldn’t understand, just trust me.

  176. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    “Personally, I’d rather save the Halliday money to bid on Joe Mauer when he becomes a free agent. We’ll want to keep him away from the Red Sox, too.”

    Disagree.

    We are LOADED at C in our system. Mon(s)tero will likely be ready first–and a bat that good you play regardless of defense which is not as bad as you think–and Cervelli has shown he’s not an automatic out either.

    Then you’ve got Romine, Higashiosa (sp?) Murphy and Sanchez, a 16 yr old who will play THIS YEAR with the GCL Yankees.

  177. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Mark July 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    When is the last time the Phillies paid someone $20+ million?

    They have the prospects to get him, but will they pay him? Same thing with the Dodgers.

    —————————

    Brewers didn’t have a problem with it. If a team like the Dodgers can win now and next year with Halladay, they’d bite the bullet and take the picks for him when he walks.

  178. Mel July 7th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Can’t believe Hinski isn’t playing! I thought Girardi stated he was going to use Hinski against RHP. Also, Hinski had a great game yesterday…against a LHP. Is this another case of not being able to believe anything he says and/or another case of Girardi mismangement. By the way, I think its both.

  179. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    “Hughes or Joba, Brackman, and Romine for example aren’t a “kings ransom. ”

    Exactly, and if that was the offer Ricciardi would consider it for about 2 seconds then say “no thanks we’ll wait for a better offer or draft picks, bye. *click*”

    Ricciardi wouldn’t trade him within the division unless the Yanks offer a lot more than what you are saying.

  180. m July 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Higashioka

    ___________

    They’d move the fences back 20 feet if they had to. They’re probably going to anyway. :)

  181. Clark July 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Red Sox need pitching just as badly as we do.

    I wouldn’t doubt they offer Bowden, Masterson, and Bard for Doc.

  182. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Brackman’s struggles hasn’t hurt him among many scouts. A lot of scouts still think he has big upside, making him valuable, ML contract or not.

    Joe Mauer will never hit free agency.

    The Twins will sign him to a long term deal.

    They will generate over 50 million more to their bottom line once their new, publicly financed stadium opens next year.

    One of the reasons they dealt Santana was to put that money (for his future contract) toward a new Mauer deal.

    Mauer will be a career Twin, as Kirby Puckett was back in the day.

  183. Ramey July 7th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    “Can’t believe Hinski isn’t playing! I thought Girardi stated he was going to use Hinski against RHP. Also, Hinski had a great game yesterday…against a LHP. Is this another case of not being able to believe anything he says and/or another case of Girardi mismangement. By the way, I think its both”

    Mel, he’s not going to play every day. He’ll play once a week most likely. And if you’re going to criticize Girardi for not playing him, you may want to at least spell Hinske’s name right

  184. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    “We are LOADED at C in our system. Mon(s)tero will likely be ready first–and a bat that good you play regardless of defense which is not as bad as you think–and Cervelli has shown he’s not an automatic out either.”

    Rebecca-

    We have a lot of catchers but unless Montero hits paydirt I don’t think we are loaded. I think it’s too soon to say where Montero will play. If he’s not ready, Cervelli isn’t going to cut it, IMO. Joe Mauer is a pretty good catcher.

  185. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Patrick,

    Then he loses him for draft picks. A much lesser offer than what’s on the table in my proposed deal.

    You can always add a few lower level guys to sweeten the pot.

    However, few if any teams can put a better offer on the table than the Yankees if Hughes or Joba are one of the components in the deal along with Austin Romine.

  186. JJ July 7th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Hughes, Brackman, Romine for Halladay?

    Without hesitation

  187. Mark in Tampa July 7th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    I think Mussina is one that will be his decision. The HOF says they take the players wishes into account, but they make the final choice. With Moose, the accomplishments are close enough with either team that I think his choice would stand. That said, it doesn’t look real good for him getting in, unfortunately.

  188. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    I’m not giving up Hughes or Joba for Halladay – great, now we have the Santana thing all over again. I wouldn’t trade Hughes for Santana and I’m not for trading him now.

  189. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    “Rebecca-

    We have a lot of catchers but unless Montero hits paydirt I don’t think we are loaded. I think it’s too soon to say where Montero will play. If he’s not ready, Cervelli isn’t going to cut it, IMO. Joe Mauer is a pretty good catcher.”

    We’ll see when Mauer is a FA, what Mon(s)tero’s doing and the rest.

    We can go from there.

  190. Forntoso July 7th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Try and get that Hawaiian reliever from Toronto in the Halladay trade

  191. Observer283 July 7th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    SJ44, I don’t think either the Yankees or the Red Sox will get Halladay simply because it is the best trade that Riccardi can get. I think there will be an in division rival premium for either the Red Sox or the Yankees.

    Trading the orgainzation’s signature player to one of the two teams that perennial beat out the Jays would be a tough sell to the Blue Jay fanbase.

    It has to look like Riccardi got MORE than a pound of flesh from either Epstein or Cashman for him to pull the trigger.

    Personally, I wouldn’t trade Halladay to the Yanks unless I got Hughes or Chaimberlain AND Montero AND another prospect.
    And from the Red Sox, I would want Bucholz + A LOT more.

    This is Roy Halladay. In division. To a team that kicks our butt every year. If I am selling this to my fan base, the trade has to seem lopsided in MY favor.

  192. randy l. July 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    ” I thought you all were serious.”

    jerkface-

    just little old me was serious.

    a person had to be baseball dumber than a door nail to think kennedy and hughes were going to be better than livan last year.

    “And I think Hughes + kennedy last year was absolutely the right move, it just turned into poop.”

    the same thing happened inside cashman’s head too.

  193. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Hughes, Brackman, Romine for Halladay.

    If I’m the Jays I say “NO” and hang up. That’s simply not enough for Halladay.

    You’re kidding yourself if you think the Phillies won’t offer more than that.

  194. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Mark in Tampa-Really? Moose has I think a decent chance after that final season.

    Betsy-Halladay is IMO better than Santana.

  195. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    “We’ll see when Mauer is a FA, what Mon(s)tero’s doing and the rest.

    We can go from there.”

    Yep. And if and when that day comes, I want the $$$ to be available to get Mauer.

  196. Y 27 July 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Trade one of Hughes or Joba, along with a couple of other guys is not excess at all.

    This is Doc Halladay, not Jarrod Washburn.

  197. Mike July 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Olney mentions the Yankees too, just like Heyman did.

    Said 50/50 he gets moved before the deadline this year and almost “certainly” before ST next year.

  198. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    “I wouldn’t doubt they offer Bowden, Masterson, and Bard for Doc.”

    They actually wouldn’t, Olney just said he spoke to the RS FO and they aren’t likely to deal the young arms for Doc, they’d rather land a position prospect like Hanley or a Justin Smoak from Texas.

  199. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Observer283-I agree.

  200. R+ July 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Montero is the only one who should be off-limits for Halladay

  201. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Honestly, I hope Mauer is a career Twin. I don’t want the Yankees to sign him.

    Is that wrong? It just feels like a sin for him to leave Minnesota.

  202. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Brandon-Bet they’re lying.

  203. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    “Hughes, Brackman, Romine for Halladay.

    If I’m the Jays I say “NO” and hang up. That’s simply not enough for Halladay.

    You’re kidding yourself if you think the Phillies won’t offer more than that.”

    thats fine…let the phillies get him…its not the yanks god given right to trade or sign every good player…we have good players…we dont NEED roy

  204. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    “I wouldn’t doubt they offer Bowden, Masterson, and Bard for Doc.”

    They actually wouldn’t, Olney just said he spoke to the RS FO and they aren’t likely to deal the young arms for Doc, they’d rather land a position prospect like Hanley or a Justin Smoak from Texas.

    ————————

    Beckett and Lowell for Hanley maybe? :D

  205. rconn23 July 7th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    If the Yankees trade for Roy Halladay, it can’t be solely to keep him out of Boston.

    That reeks of desperation, and the worst trades are made out of desperation.

    If the Yankees are in on Halladay, then the Red Sox are going to be in on Halladay, if only to drive up the price. And vice-versa.

    Giving up either Joba or Hughes is a given, if Halladay is ever to become a Yankee.

    But that deal can’t turn into Joba or Hughes plus, Montero, and Jackson or McAllister because the Yankees don’t want to see him become a Red Sox.

    It’s better for both the Yankees and the Red Sox if Halladay goes to the NL. The Phillies seem the most logical fit, and have the prospects to make it happen.

  206. no.27 July 7th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    I don’t think there’s anyway the Yankees get Halladay, but…

    With Damon, Matsui, and Pettitte free agents next year the Yankees COULD make a really strong offer that would be hard for the Blue Jays to turn down:

    Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera/Brett Gardner, and Austin Romine

    FOR

    Roy Halladay and Vernon Wells

    This gives the Jays 2 very good young players they can control for years and clears both big contracts from their pay roll. For the Yankees, they add another ace at a reasonable price. They are the only team that can afford to carry Wells’ contract with Matsui and Damon leaving.

  207. Gonzo July 7th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Red Sox are going to be in the bidding just to tick us off.

    They wouldn’t be doing their jobs if they didn’t. Just like the Santana trade.

  208. William Buckner July 7th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    How many top end prospects did the Twins get for Santana?

    Or Cleveland for CC. No one gives up more then one, maybe two high end prospects for anyone. Period.

  209. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    no.27 July 7th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    I don’t think there’s anyway the Yankees get Halladay, but…

    With Damon, Matsui, and Pettitte free agents next year the Yankees COULD make a really strong offer that would be hard for the Blue Jays to turn down:

    Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera/Brett Gardner, and Austin Romine

    FOR

    Roy Halladay and Vernon Wells

    This gives the Jays 2 very good young players they can control for years and clears both big contracts from their pay roll. For the Yankees, they add another ace at a reasonable price. They are the only team that can afford to carry Wells’ contract with Matsui and Damon leaving.

    ———————–

    Wouldn’t go near Wells with a 10 foot pole. Check his rapid decline.

  210. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: The Yankees released Angel Berroa today.

    I remember seeing him shagging flies at the exhibition game against the Cubs and thinking that this was probably the last day he was going to wear the pinstripes.

    He hung around a lot longer than expected.

    Got to give it up to the guy. He fought the good fight. Dudes from that generation are as tough as nails.

  211. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Patrick-

    As a baseball fan I see your point of view on Mauer. But, I can’t see sentiment stopping the Yanks from bidding on him, and if they do, the Yanks like to be top dollar.

  212. Tom K July 7th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    So you would rather have one of Joba or Hughes instead of Chapman AND Halalday?

  213. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    “Beckett and Lowell for Hanley maybe? ”

    Exactly, that type.

  214. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    No matter what Riccardi does, he’s probably gone [fired] by the end of this season.

    IMO, if Halladay gets paid his 15.75M due him in his last season, 2010, he’ll be traded by the deadline, because I don’t see the Jays taking the chance offering him arbitration and him getting the biggest one year payday awarded.

  215. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    m: I have not answered your Hughes/Joba question because, frankly, I’m not sure.

    I agree with you that 3 months ago it would have been a much easier question to answer, so kudos to Master Philip for reminding us all how great we used to and again do think he can be.

    By the way, I think I’ve read almost every one of these posts talking about potential rotations with Halladay and I don’t think anyone has included Chien-ming Wang. Unless this trade is going down in July, I like him in the rotation too and I do NOT want to send him to Canadia!

  216. Oddessy July 7th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    The Phillies don’t have anyone as good as Hughes or Joba to offer.

    Does TOR want a volume package with a couple of good players or that one super prospect?

  217. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    SJ, any proposal that starts with Phil is a no-no for me. I wouldn’t trade Joba either – I’m really not interested in trading either of those two kids, so frankly that’s where my Halladay interest ends.

  218. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    For all the absurd love that y’all have been giving Joba for the past few weeks, you sure seem eager to trade him to a much older fresh off the DL DOC. One day it’s hail Joba in all his glory stay with him and he will be the ace. Next day Doc is on the block and off with Joba’s head. Make up your mind!

  219. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    I wonder what we can get for Igawa?

    a. Bad shades
    b. Bucket of balls
    c. Shattered maple bats
    d. A free one week vacation in Japan
    e. Lilly’s j-strap
    f. ??

  220. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Not a given Chapman’s stuff pans out in the Majors, or that he’s 21 and not 26.

  221. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Halladay >>> Joba >>> 90% of other AL starters.

  222. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Please explain the difference between Doc and Santana. Some of the same people that didn’t want to give up Hughes (forget Joba, he was never involved) for Santana now have no problem giving him up for an older pitcher. No thanks – I think Doc is remarkable, but…..no.

  223. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    21-Even if Joba were doing great I’d want to trade him for Halladay. And Joba is one of my favorite players. Still, right now he MIGHT BECOME an Ace. Halladay IS an Ace, in his prime, that dominates the AL East. Halladay, please.

  224. Observer283 July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    No. 27: Pretend you’re a Jays fan. You just found out that the Jays made the trade you propose. How do you feel?

    If you’re honest with yourself, you’d be pretty upset. Especially since Halladay is now a “DAMN YANKEE!!” Most Jays fans would have the same reaction. Riccardi knows this.

    Trades are not about pure, clinical, pragmatism. When you are trading the center of your organization to an in-division rival, you have to consider what the trade will mean to your fanbase. Accordingly, you have to get a TON to make this trade.

    This. Is. Roy. Halladay.

  225. Joey July 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Halladay is better than Santana and will age better.

    Apples and oranges.

    Our farm system was not as stacked 2 years ago as it is now either. We can afford to part with some more now.

  226. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Joba is greater than %90 of all other starters? Joba looks like John Smoltz the past few starts.

  227. KWAN July 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    “Halladay >>> Joba >>> 90% of other AL starters.”

    Agree.

  228. no.27 July 7th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    “Wouldn’t go near Wells with a 10 foot pole. Check his rapid decline.”

    Yea, I know he’s been declining, but I think that would make the Blue Jays OK w/ trading Halladay to the Yankees.

    At the same time, I didn’t realize he was getting paid $86 million between 2011 and 2014. That has to be one of the worst contracts in baseball.

  229. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Please explain the difference between Doc and Santana. Some of the same people that didn’t want to give up Hughes (forget Joba, he was never involved) for Santana now have no problem giving him up for an older pitcher. No thanks – I think Doc is remarkable, but…..no.

    —————————-

    Doc puts up otherworldly numbers pitching in the AL East.

    Santana had a less than remarkable 2007.

    Lastly, the window for the old guard is rapidly closing, more so than when Santana was available.

  230. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    So how does Sebathia feel about getting another #1? Would it work out as well as Schilling/Johnson? Who would start game 7?

  231. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Rebecca-I heard they were taking checking the ages of these guys more seriously.

    Betsy-Doc is dominating in the AL East, a division that contains the best offenses in baseball. He has been consistently good forever. Santana, as one blogger pointed out (Mark in Tampa, I think) was showing signs of decline and does not have a perfect pitcher’s body, which Halladay does. Halladay is dominating in the AL, and he’s done it longer than Santana did.

  232. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    no.27 July 7th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    “Wouldn’t go near Wells with a 10 foot pole. Check his rapid decline.”

    Yea, I know he’s been declining, but I think that would make the Blue Jays OK w/ trading Halladay to the Yankees.

    At the same time, I didn’t realize he was getting paid $86 million between 2011 and 2014. That has to be one of the worst contracts in baseball.

    ——————————–

    If you think Wells is declining now, I don’t know what kind of player you’ll have in 2011-2014. Ouch.

  233. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Wait, even if that’s so, it doesn’t matter to me. I’m firm on this – no Hughes (I wouldn’t trade him for anyone, so that’s no surprise) and no Joba. I’m not all that interested in having Halladay, to be honest……..not at the expense of either of those two. Therefore, I’m not wasting my time dreaming of this.

  234. KWAN July 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Santana is reliant on his change-up and his FB velocity. If you watch him with the Mets, his velocity is not nearly the same was it was during his hey-day in Minnesota. As he gets older, they will make a difference. Plus he is built like Pedro, most of these small LA pitchers have short shelf lives.

    He also didn’t throw his slider much after the ASB in 07, leading some to believe he was hiding an injury.

    Santana was not a no-brainer. Halladay is.

  235. you gotta have faith (aceves, you da man!) July 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    “We definitely need some revenge. We know we play well here [at home], but at the same time, the Yankees are hot right now, so we need to step up our game.”

    -Joe Nathan http://www.startribune.com/spo.....1&c=y

    oh, its on. :)

  236. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Nick,
    I like the sound of Canadia. But CanadiA wouldnt be bad either.

  237. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    We don’t even know if Halladay wants to come here-he really seemed to hate that HR that Damon hit, pitching in NYSLP (New Yankee Stadium Launching Pad) might not sit well with him.

  238. Mark in Tampa July 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN,

    I would vote for Moose, Jim Palmer has said he is a HOFer, but many of the voters that I have read or heard say that he just misses. That could change and the guys I heard could also be in the minority.

    It really stinks if he doesn’t get in, because if he just hung around for three years to get those 30 wins, he would be automatic. Even if those were the worst 3 years of his career, average 10 wins per and he is automatic. Shouldn’t be the way it is, but it is.

    Also, if Moose came back this year, they wouldn’t have brought back Pettitte, so those would have been his wins. If I remember right, Andy has turned a few easy wins into NDs, Moose might have been on his way to two straight 20 win years.

  239. F7 TD July 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Santana had a higher peak. He never had the consistency of Doc.

    Santana takes himself out of games after 100 pitches. His velo. is declining. Halladay is a horse, showing no signs of slowing down.

  240. no.27 July 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    “No. 27: Pretend you’re a Jays fan. You just found out that the Jays made the trade you propose. How do you feel?

    If you’re honest with yourself, you’d be pretty upset. Especially since Halladay is now a “DAMN YANKEE!!” Most Jays fans would have the same reaction. Riccardi knows this.

    Trades are not about pure, clinical, pragmatism. When you are trading the center of your organization to an in-division rival, you have to consider what the trade will mean to your fanbase. Accordingly, you have to get a TON to make this trade.

    This. Is. Roy. Halladay.”

    I did say that I didn’t think he would get traded here. But, the trade that I suggested offers the Jays more than any other trade on here. Getting rid of Wells’ contract would be REALLY valuable in this economy.

  241. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    it amazing how yankee fans feel about joba…i guarantee if he was on the red sox, all you would see on here is how stacked the red sox are and how joba is gonna turn into an ace in boston, the next beckett they’d say….

    but now since hes 23 and on the yankees and not dominating while showing diminished stuff hes a bust and just as good as a 40 year old ex-brave!

  242. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Good for debate on Halladay, but doubt the Yankees are taking on his salary plus the potential to be the highest paid pitcher in baseball.

    We’d be better off talking about another reliable bullpen arm, preferably a 7th or 8th inning guy, or even a closer type who can spell MO. IMO that is our current main need.

  243. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    I almost don’t want Halladay because I dont want to be the Yankees “The team with 12 aces that win every game.” Where is the fun in having Halladay Burnette CC? That is like an all star team.

  244. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    If you think Wells is declining now, I don’t know what kind of player you’ll have in 2011-2014. Ouch.

    ————–

    No worries. Nothing b-12 cant fix.

  245. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    ^^^ thats not to say i wouldnt trade him…that has more to due with the recent days not the halladay trade talk

  246. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    I don’t think Halladay gets traded until the offseason. That way, more teams can budgeted his contract and extension which might open up more suiters for the Toronto GM to negotiate with.

  247. Vader July 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Boy what happened to the good ole days when Jason Jarvis, Mike Gordon and Marty Janzen could land you David Cone.

    For anyone who says that the Blue Jays wouldn’t trade Halladay to the Yankees, would you have said the same thing about Clemens and Cone at the time when they were dealt?

  248. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    “Anybody know who this “Mayer” dude starting at catcher for the Twins is?”

    I think Jennifer Anniston knows.

    “Therefore, I’m not wasting my time dreaming of this.”

    Dream… or nightmare?

  249. you gotta have faith (aceves, you da man!) July 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    for those who wondered why gardy is starting not melk, hes just starting the hotter bat, gardy was good yesterday and got robbed of an XBH

  250. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Also, no way Cashman takes on Wells contract.

  251. PC Dave July 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Burnett will convince Halladay to come here and alleviate any fears he has.

    At his press conference, he said when Doc hits the FA market he would heavily recruit him.

    I mean, come on, the guy is 32 and has never been to the playoffs. I doubt he is going to be picky, as long as he goes to a contender.

  252. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    I realize being a Yankee fan I should expect we have tons of all stars but to have all those great now pitchers? Let’s keep things the way we are going with the rotation/bullpen. We finally picked up some solid vets in the rotation, now lets see what our organization can think up to get us to a “winning the right way again” type of team.

  253. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    I almost don’t want Halladay because I dont want to be the Yankees “The team with 12 aces that win every game.” Where is the fun in having Halladay Burnette CC? That is like an all star team.

    ——————-

    I don’t know about you, but I’d have no problem with that lol.

  254. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    As for Moose, doubt he gets into the HOF. He was a good pitcher who played on very good teams that enabled him to amass wins.

  255. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    vb03-I agree.

  256. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    I realize being a Yankee fan I should expect we have tons of all stars but to have all those great now pitchers? Let’s keep things the way we are going with the rotation/bullpen. We finally picked up some solid vets in the rotation, now lets see what our organization can think up to get us to a “winning the right way again” type of team.

    ————————

    I’d just like to win a WS again and a parade down the Canyon of Heroes. If it means getting 5 aces and 9 MVP’s on the squad, so be it.

  257. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    …It would depend on whether or not Halladay would want to be a FA while in NY.

  258. randy l. July 7th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    ” I don’t think anyone has included Chien-ming Wang. Unless this trade is going down in July, I like him in the rotation too and I do NOT want to send him to Canadia!”

    nick in sf-

    i’d like to see wang go in a trade simply for him to get away from cashman.

    the man doesn’t deserve a pitcher like wang.

  259. R-Tek July 7th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Between Hughes and Joba, I would bet most people still choose to keep Joba.

    I would trade either for Doc though.

  260. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    I really hope Moose gets in. He’s really borderline.

  261. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    vb03-I also agree with your next post. :-)

  262. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    I apologize to Canadans for the error.

  263. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    KWAN, he’s not a no-brainer for me.

  264. jpb1973 July 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    No matter what Riccardi does, he’s probably gone [fired] by the end of this season.

    ——————————————————–

    I think you are right. Now that the owner (Rogers) is dead, the team will be run by the fiduciaries and they aren’t too happy about the long term committment ($$$) for Wells and Rios. I would expect that if Riccardi doesn’t make a deal that pleases the fiduciaries by the end of the season they will find someone who will get it done. They are all about settling Rogers’ estate in the best finanacial way and don’t have an axe to grind with the Yankees, Red Sox or anyone other team. In the end, cash will be king (as much as the commisioner lets that be the decider).

  265. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    I miss the days we could win the world series…. with guys like Scott Broski, Shane Spencer, and Ricky Ledee

  266. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Folks im late to this party.

    Are we playing make believe that the Jays would trade their ace to us a hated inner division rival? Or does Riccardi need to take a drug test? Where did this rumor start and why would they hand him to us unless we are giving back an ace of our own C.C.(ala clemens/wells trade)?

  267. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    SJ, I’m a little confused. In the Kei thread, you said that a Yankee/Jay trade would not happen and you asked why the Yankees would trade Phil for Doc when they didn’t do it for Santana. Now you seem to be saying that this very well could happen? Would you do the deal? I’m not interested in signh

  268. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    21-You didn’t enjoy 78′, when we bought every free agent on the market?

  269. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    randy makes a good point. Maybe we should trade Hughes to Tampa for Neil Allen.

  270. Homer July 7th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    We don’t need to sign Halladay to an extension right away. He is signed through 2010.

  271. Wang IS Taiwan July 7th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Gotta disagree about Joba’s potential. He’s shown that he’s not a savvy pitcher. He certainly isn’t a thinking pitcher. Yes, he’s young, but he’s already been talked to several times and hasn’t yet accepted the wisdom of the advice he’s been given. His personality may hold him back. He’s awfully arrogant regarding his skills and success level — considering how he really hasn’t done much in the majors yet.

    I was a big Joba supporter earlier on, but lately, his attitude has really changed how I view his potential success in the future. It’s obviously not enough to have the raw talent; you have to have the character to pull off greatness.

  272. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Betsy – I’m with ya, not a fan of getting Doc. I suppose if it were the Sox or us it would have to be us, but let him go to the NL (Minus LA)

  273. Mark in Tampa July 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Don’t want Vernon Wells if he was free. He isn’t declining, he was just never that good. He had one huge season (’03), and everybody thinks that that is the player he is. But, he is the player he has been since then. A middle of the order type hitter who bats @.260, OBP @.330, doesn’t drive in or score 100 runs, but is paid like a superstar. His D looks good sometimes but is only so-so compared to the other CFs in the league. No thanks.

  274. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    …The better Outfield (including offensively) is

    Melky in RF
    Gardner in CF
    Damon in LF

    Swisher should swap 1st, DH and PH duties.

  275. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    oops, scratch that last part………

    In any case, I don’t think Halladay is coming here so this is all just wasted speculation.

  276. Rizzo! July 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    So long Berroa!

    I’m headed to the game now. Any Yankees/Abraham fans come by and say hello. Sec 121 row 33, seat 11 and 12.

    Will also be at the games tomorrow and Thur.

  277. K-Zone July 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Cashman and JP have a pretty good relationship, don’t they? Didn’t Cash say that JP gave him rave reviews about Burnett this winter?

  278. Yankee Trader July 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    “Boy what happened to the good ole days when Jason Jarvis, Mike Gordon and Marty Janzen could land you David Cone.

    For anyone who says that the Blue Jays wouldn’t trade Halladay to the Yankees, would you have said the same thing about Clemens and Cone at the time when they were dealt?”

    That’s when “CASH” was King, and Cashman could throw around big bucks to any player George wanted. In this economy, Wells is virtually untradeable, and IMHO, I don’t see the Yankees at this time needing to make a play for Halladay.

    Get another reliable bullpen arm, and if everyone gets and stays healthy, this team could very well get to the WS.

  279. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Betsy, I think SJ’s thoughts here are for the next 4 or 5 yrs. Doc is still Doc, if it’s a 1 for 1 deal for either Hughes or Joba you do it, b/c by the time it’s done, you’ll have another Joba or Hughes being developed or you sign them when they hit the market.

  280. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    “We don’t need to sign Halladay to an extension right away. He is signed through 2010.”

    Actually, I think the Yankees or any team will insist on that before trading off valuable young players.

  281. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Our House – I just wanna see us win the games with what we have. I like to see a fighting scrapping young team with role players win games (Which is what we are still holding onto somewhat with our outfield and bullpen). I hate to see players with calculators and investment agents on the field while they watch strike three.

  282. Eric July 7th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    As SJ said, unless Riccardi wants to take a lesser package from someone else just to keep him from the Yankees, he’s going to have to seriously consider us. We match up well with them.

  283. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Yankee Trader-Also, was Toronto a contender back then? I don’t remember.

  284. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Just a quick calculation from Cot’s – I could have made a mistake or three.

    For 2010, the Yanks have approximately $162.5MM committed to ARod, CC, Tex, Jeter, AJ, Mo, Posada, Cano, Swisher, Marte, Brackman and Miranda.

    If the Yanks did a deal for Halliday, he’d get a CC like deal – north of $20MM per. Let’s say $20MM though.

    That would be $182MM+ right there.

    Now they would need to sign a CF, LF, DH, 1 more starter, 5 relievers, and a complete bench.

    Do you really think the Yanks are going to do that?

  285. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    But this isn’t the case. The Jays will not sell him 1 for 1, they’d want your top 5 farm players for 1 Doc and that’s why you don’t even entertain it.

  286. benfica356 July 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    ACE ON THRUSDAY

  287. benfica356 July 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    ACE ON THRUSDAY

  288. Y26 July 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    “UPDATE, 4:52 p.m.: Alfredo Aceves just threw a bullpen and said he was told he’s starting on Thursday. ”

    Andy and Joba better step their games up after Thursday because now we have no “long man” to bail them out.

  289. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    21-I personally don’t care. I just want to win games.

    The point of the game is to put the best team out there. If that means using the farm and role players, so be it. If that means signing tons of free agents, so be it.

  290. Ca$hmoney July 7th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    “Betsy, I think SJ’s thoughts here are for the next 4 or 5 yrs. Doc is still Doc, if it’s a 1 for 1 deal for either Hughes or Joba you do it, b/c by the time it’s done, you’ll have another Joba or Hughes being developed or you sign them when they hit the market.”

    Now you’re thinking like a GM

  291. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Does anyone get to watch Andrew Brackman regularly? What kind of stuff are we looking at with him? I really like his size and power but don’t get to watch him pitch.

  292. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    now we lose a long man for the road series.

  293. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    If he really is available, and the Yanks could potentially get him, I don’t see how we can pass on him. I hope we don’t at lease :)

  294. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    “Just a quick calculation from Cot’s – I could have made a mistake or three.

    For 2010, the Yanks have approximately $162.5MM committed to ARod, CC, Tex, Jeter, AJ, Mo, Posada, Cano, Swisher, Marte, Brackman and Miranda.

    If the Yanks did a deal for Halliday, he’d get a CC like deal – north of $20MM per. Let’s say $20MM though.

    That would be $182MM+ right there.

    Now they would need to sign a CF, LF, DH, 1 more starter, 5 relievers, and a complete bench.

    Do you really think the Yanks are going to do that?”

    What makes you think they need another starter. Doc takes Pettitte’s place and either Joba or Hughes fills the 5th slot with Wang back in the rotation.

    Same with the bullpen. They’ll have arms, but might need one more guy.

    I think they have CF cover so getting another outfielder is in order.

  295. R+ July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Because Doc is not your typical 32 yr old starter on the downside. He is a rare specimen. Not some flame thrower who is going to evaporate once his velocity decreases a little.

    Halladay is the type of guy who will be effective into his 40s.

  296. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Thursday I don’t mind so much.

    After the ASB I worry.

  297. jpb1973 July 7th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Y26,
    Andy and Joba better step their games up after Thursday because now we have no “long man” to bail them out.

    —————————————————

    Yeah, you’re right. By using Aceves as a starter on Thursday, we may run into a situation where we need long relief three consecutive days (Thursday, Friday and Saturday). I hope that the Scranton to Anaheim shuttle has flights scheduled for those days.

  298. Vader July 7th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    If and that is a Big IF…Doc Hallday is on the market the Yankees will do what ever it takes to make sure he does not end up in Beantown and that may be the only reason they would be interested.

    If they could get him for something along the lines of what has been talked about, young pitching prospect in the majors, catching prospect and another Grade B-A prospect, the Yankees would have to do it, IMO.

  299. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    “Now they would need to sign a CF, LF, DH, 1 more starter, 5 relievers, and a complete bench.”

    WHATT?!?!? yanks wont be signing 2 outfielders…thats for sure…prbly not a dh…definitly not 5 relievers and a complete bench?…are you insane or just challenged?

  300. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Peter, you’re a genius!

    The order “should be”
    1-Cano
    2-Jeter
    3-Damon
    4-A-Rod
    5-Tex (forces stikes)
    6-Mats
    7-Posie
    8-Melky
    9-Gardner

    Nice! I’ve been saying that all year :)

    “…We need another bullpen arm?”

    Why, haven’t they won enuff yet?

    But, how about Chapman–defector of Social-Communist Cuba.

    Yanks are interested, per public comments. Chapman is now inMoami–per reports.

    Miami or A-Rod’ville?

    :)

  301. Mike July 7th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Just like the payroll would not be able to support 2 big FAs this winter, let alone 3, right?

    Face it, nobody here knows anything about what Hal/Cashman feel about adding or deducting payroll.

    After this past winter, you should realize that guessing his fruitless. All the BS about how we have to cut payroll because of the economy and not selling luxury boxes and we spent $423 million dollars.

  302. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    That was the smart move with Aceves. That gives guys like Mitre, Towers or whomever, at least two more starts with SWB before they have to make a decision either way.

  303. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    You know what I haven’t been called in a long time as a Yankee fan… A front runner

  304. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Cash is King-

    My point was there was no payroll included in the $182MM + for all the positions I listed – not that the Yanks don’t have players to fill some of those positions.

  305. Jake July 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    wooot! ACE !!!

    Now just trade for Halladay and we’re all set!

    I mean how awesome would this be…
    1. CC
    2. AJ
    3. Halladay
    4. Joba/Hughges
    5. Pettite

    Having wang,aceves,Bruney,Coke, Rivera in the Pen is awesome

  306. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    I wonder if Mitre has built up enough arm strength, coming off his TJ surgery. If he comes around, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in NY sometime this season.

  307. Lance July 7th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Jackson and Gardner can easily be plugged into the OF

    When you have a rotation of Halladay-CC-Burnett-Joba, who cares who is in your outfield?

    We still have Tex, Cano, A-Rod, Montero, Jeter etc. What’s wrong in filling out the other spots with some role players?

  308. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Wave your hat,
    But they have cheap alternatives to fill those slots and still stay around the same payroll as this year if not even lower.

  309. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Jake – Why again would Halladay be the #3 starter?

  310. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    “If he really is available, and the Yanks could potentially get him, I don’t see how we can pass on him. I hope we don’t atleast”

    Oh see it’s really easy if it were 1 for 1 sure why not. Although this is not the case hence PASS. :)

  311. you gotta have faith (aceves, you da man!) July 7th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    hmm Ace to start on thrusday, good luck ace!

    joba better step up his game none of this 5 innings crap.

    alby was brought up bc wang was put on the DL, correct? just asking to see if the yanks are gonna call someone up, like edwar.

  312. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    I vote Halladay to the Nationals for all starting pitchers and Zach Zims.

  313. Jake July 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Hey 21.

    Im just putting him there cuz he would be INSERTED into the rotation, so i didnt know where to put him…but hypothetically speaking, if we did trade for him, he would be our #1.
    He’s better than CC and AJ
    He’s the best pitcher in baseball

  314. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Mike-

    Be sensible-

    I go to the games and see empty seats, especially down in the high price areas.

    You think the Yanks are likely to add significant payroll this winter to what they already have?

    To keep the payroll at a 2009 level, that’s less than $20MM to replace Damon and Matsui (and Nady/Hinske), give an arbitration increase to whoever of Hughes or Joba you keep, give an arbitration increase to Melky, sign a bullpen and sign a bench.

    Do you really think so?

  315. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Wow -

    You guys really take a suggestion and run with it don’t you? :lol:

    Who knows?

    But, Halladay would only be on this team, and effective, for what, another 3 years? If Joba and Hughes come around (and I believe Phil is there), they’re on this team for a lot more than that.

    since this is all a ‘what if’ conversation anyway, ‘what if’ they end up trading the one of the two who goes to be everything they thought he would be? Then, Halladay is gone, they’ve got the ‘other guy’ who didn’t quite get where they thought he ‘d be, and Toronto can still throw a Yankee killer at them for the next, what 5-7 or so years?

    There’s a lot to think about.

    And I don’t necessarily think it’s a must to get Halladay. As great as he is.

  316. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Brandon, thanks……..since it will never be a one for one, I’ve no interest in speculating about that. I’ll believe it when I see it about Doc being on the market – let him go to Philly or Milwaukee.

  317. stuart a July 7th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    if ace is starting on thursday they need to take the 1 inning rules off hughes. if they need him for 2 girardi needs to allow that to happen…………….

  318. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Jake – I don’t think you pick up Halladay mid season and put him #1.. we paid a lot of money for some guy this off season and pretty much granted him the #1 spot. He would have to fit in #2.

  319. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    I like this scenario better: Halladay makes his Toronto contract null and void by defecting TO Cuba. Spends a couple weeks smoking cigars and sipping rum. Then defects again and signs with us for the stretch drive.

  320. Sword July 7th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    JP will wait until we get eliminated in the playoffs and knows Cashman will be desperate to keep his job and needs to make a big splash and will give up more at the end of the yr

  321. jpb1973 July 7th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    joba better step up his game none of this 5 innings crap.

    alby was brought up bc wang was put on the DL, correct? just asking to see if the yanks are gonna call someone up, like edwar.

    —————————————————–

    The Yankees roster is full right now so no call up is possible. However, if long relief is needed on Thursday it would be Roberston and Albaladejo. They could be sent down on Friday and replaced on the roster by Melancon and Edwar so they could be available for Friday and Saturday. That would really mess up the bullpen at Scranton but the way they are going there they might be rained out on those days anyway.

  322. Wilson July 7th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    If Joba or Andy get knocked out early, then Tomko is there to pick them up.

    No worries.

  323. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Just read Pete’s updates. Good luck and congrats to Ace for getting the Thursday start.

    And I thought they’d released Berroa already?

  324. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Wilson July 7th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    If Joba or Andy get knocked out early, then Tomko is there to pick them up.

    No worries.

    ————————

    I call Tomko the White Flag. Swisher should pitch, he’s the Cy of non-pitchers.

  325. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Anyway Halladay will not be a Yankee. I’d really like to know what kind of talking to Joba gets on his breaks between starts. I really hope someone is telling this kid he is nobody until he proves he is somebody. A little tough love never hurt. Jobamania shirts were probably the worst thing that ever happened to Justin Chamberlain.

  326. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    “The Yankees roster is full right now so no call up is possible. However, if long relief is needed on Thursday it would be Roberston and Albaladejo. They could be sent down on Friday and replaced on the roster by Melancon and Edwar so they could be available for Friday and Saturday. That would really mess up the bullpen at Scranton but the way they are going there they might be rained out on those days anyway.”

    Holy Jesus Monstero I hope we don’t need relief those games!

    Then again, with it being Anaheim…

  327. Wilson July 7th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    JP’s best chance to get a good package is to create a Yanks/Sox bidding war.

    And I suspect he will do just that. Too bad Boston is only in it to drive up the price for us. As Olney said, they want a bat, not pitching.

  328. jpb1973 July 7th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    If Joba or Andy get knocked out early, then Tomko is there to pick them up.

    No worries.

    ——————————————————

    Why not promote Pat Venditte? He can give us long relief on Friday with his left arm and long relief on Saturday with his right arm. :)

  329. Vince July 7th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Albaladejo, Robertson, and Tomko should fill the role of Aceves until after the All Star break.
    Mo is the only Yankee pitcher going to the All Star game which is good for the rotation.

  330. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    If NY isnt going outside the org, than ACEVES is a NO-Brainer to start Thurs.

    Who else just went 4 inngs the other day?

    He is stretched out.

    “Pettitte needs to step it up, we don’t have a long man”

    -Pettitte just went 6 yesterday and consistently does so. He’s got the best record on the team.

    Joba is under Injury Prevention Program (see Clev Start if u wonder where the heater went).

    Better put, he is under diff “Joba Rules” as a 1st year starter. And kudos for it too. See Ben Sheets.

    Alabaladejo looking great.

    Long man?No.

    Tomko or Roberston? You betcha–both are “really” starters from the minors.

    “Long men” 4 of them are in the pen now–if counting Hughes and Bruney too.

    :)

    Go Yanks

  331. Drain003 July 7th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Montero is the only player who should be completely off limits for Halladay.

  332. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    I’m not happy with Aceves starting…….this is going to really hurt the pen. Get ready for mucho innings from Robertson and Tomko in Joba and Andy’s games…..and the Yankees had better hope that CC doesn’t get smoked again and that AJ doesn’t have a bad game.

  333. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Its funny when i asked this preseason if anyone would trade Hughes(while he was struggling for Halliday) it was almost unanomous no. Even though some were still crying about the non trade for Santana(im glad we didnt). Now some are willing to unload Joba for Halliday which was only a couple weeks ago the inevatable yankee ace. Im not thrilled about Jobas 98mph fastball dropping to 92. But can you immagine what the Royals are thinking after not trading Grienke these past couple years? Wasnt his e.r.a. ridiculous? Was Grienke stubborn in his struggling years?

    BTW, im all for going after Halliday. I would always go with the known vs. the potential. My only problem is the hypocracy.

    Hughes for Santana? Should of could of would of
    Hughes for Halliday this preseason? Hell no, old, wearing down, etc.
    Joba for any ace in the universe this pre season? Hell no
    Joba for Halliday today? In a heartbeat.

  334. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    If Joba and Pettitte bomb again the Yankees are in trouble over the weekend.

  335. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Betsy,
    You worry too much.

  336. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Paddy-That Cleveland start was the only start of the year he was hitting 94 to 96 consistently. Before that he didn’t and after that he hasn’t. He needs to prove he still can throw a fastball. 1 start is not enough.

  337. 4 x 4 July 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Wonder if AJ Burnett will be in Cashman’s ear about Halladay

    Or I wonder if Cashman will try and get some inside info from Burnett.

  338. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes July 7th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    21
    July 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    Joba is greater than %90 of all other starters? Joba looks like John Smoltz the past few starts.
    ===

    But unlike John Smoltz, Joba’s 23 years old.

    I seriously dobut the Yankees are moving Joba or Hughes.

    If Joba is experiencing young stud hiccups, the Yankees aren’t foolish enough to give up on him.

    If he is damaged goods – other teams will also know that.

    Either way, it’s highly doubtful he’s going anywhere.

  339. Rob NY July 7th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Rebecca — Monstero may be the coolest nickname since I heard Joe Morgan use Kung Fu Panda.

  340. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Betsy-I want CC and A.J. and Joba and Andy to do well all the time.

    Anyway, Andy went six his last start.

  341. Carl C. July 7th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    We are the only team that could take back Wells’ contract with Halladay

    You might not even need a Hughes/Joba if you can take that hideous contract off their hands.

  342. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    I hate the move, but oh well…..I agree, no more 1 inning stints for Phil. Everyone else in the pen besides Mo and Coke (right now) stink. I can’t wait for Joba and Andy’s starts when people applauding the Ace move are going to complain because we have no reliable reliever to stabilize the games.

  343. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Rob NY July 7th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Rebecca — Monstero may be the coolest nickname since I heard Joe Morgan use Kung Fu Panda.

    ———————-

    The Kung Fu Panda is the best nickname in the ML.

  344. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    bodhisattva – I’m not saying Joba, or anyone for that matter, should be moved. I don’t think the Yankees should pursue Halladay unless the Sox are seriously trying to get him. I just think Joba needs to get this “I’m awesome and throw great pitches, always” out of his head. The fact of the matter is, he is not awesome and does not throw great pitches.

  345. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    I think one off day Pete should set up a post where we talk about evrything that could possibly go wrong or the rest of the year and get all that talk out of the way.

  346. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Wait, Andy pitched badly – not impressed with 6 innings of 5 run ball with 5 wallks.

  347. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Betsy-Robertson doesn’t stink.

  348. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Betsy-

    If you want to laugh, look up at my 4:57 post

  349. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Nick,
    While hes at it, he should get a new birth certificate that states hes 29 and get an 8 year contract.

    Does anyone know how to get the Yankee fan rule book?
    Hughes for Halliday this past winter? Hell no.
    Hughes for Santana? Should of would of could of
    Joba for any ace ever made this winter? Not in a million years
    Joba for Halliday now? In a heartbeat

    PRICELESS!!

  350. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Betsy-I agree, but you said expect the pen to be taxed in Andy’s start and he gave us innings.

  351. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Betsy,
    Both Joba and Pettitte have pitched well on the road and they only pitch once each this week with CC taking the ball twice and AJ once along with Ace.

  352. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Cash, I’m not worried – this is just my opinion. I could easily say that those clamoring for Ace in the rotation are looking at things with rose-colored glasses.

  353. RC 16 July 7th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    CC and AJ having bad starts is simply not an option

  354. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    “Rebecca — Monstero may be the coolest nickname since I heard Joe Morgan use Kung Fu Panda.”

    Kung Fu Panda is AWESOME. Seriously, it’s the entire reason I voted for him in the final vote like 25 times. I voted Kinsler in the AL FTR.

    Monstero isn’t my creation, forget where I saw it, but now I can’t stop using it.

  355. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Ralph

    Mats, Damon, and Nady are all in final yearof contracts.

    U don’t think they’ll be replaced?

    Why?

  356. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Andy pitches great on the road, and in his recent pattern of good start – bad start he’s due for the good start. That would indicate he’ll pitch well in L.A., if you believe in that sort of thing.

  357. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes July 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    21
    July 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    bodhisattva – I’m not saying Joba, or anyone for that matter, should be moved. I don’t think the Yankees should pursue Halladay unless the Sox are seriously trying to get him. I just think Joba needs to get this “I’m awesome and throw great pitches, always” out of his head. The fact of the matter is, he is not awesome and does not throw great pitches.
    ====

    Try and see through the hubris: Joba is defensive because he knows he’s off and is frustrated trying to solve it.

  358. Dan July 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    S.o.S. – I’ve been wondering the same thing… people are just all over getting rid of Hughes/Joba for Doc. It is baffling the change of heart when someone they thought was untouchable, and probably is untouchable to the Yankees, becomes “touchable”

  359. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    I can’t get enough of Kung Fu Panda in web gems. I can’t stop laughing at how awesome it is that a guy of his build can move like that.

  360. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Betsy,
    Maybe so, but at least seeing the world in rose-colored glasses is easier on the blood pressure.

  361. Forntoso July 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Andy and Joba can’t pitch at home

    Heck, even CC has a 4.55 ERA at home, for all his greatness.

    This pitching staff is different on the road.

  362. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Robertson is ok – he doesn’t stink, but he’s very unreliable. I’m just saying that folks that wanted Ace in the rotation had best be prepared, if Joba and Andy can’t give innings, for a very rocky road in those games.

  363. 21 July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Joba doesn’t seem to be too frustrated? He is still “making great pitches”

  364. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Hughes is doing a number on me, one side of me says we should trade him while his value is high for Halladay, but then my better logic says hold on to the youngster. It’s truly a dizzying idea, I just pray the Sawks don’t get Doc :(

  365. espresso July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    For Halladay what prospect would be off the table? What could they possibly develop into that could more valuable than he is? That is especially true in the case of pitching prospects. He’s at the top of the game. Plus he is old school and therefore big time fun to watch. He would need some kind facial hair exemption though. I don’t see it happening, and I would think that Toronto will be GM shopping in the near future. Money is the x factor since some of the likely suitors don’t have extra money right now. That might be what keeps Riccardi in his job too. Its got to cost money to fire GMs and find new ones, and he might deserve some slack considering the budget stuff and being in the same division as two big spenders.

    I’ve become a Washburn believer, but I’m not sure the Mariners know if they are buyers or sellers yet.

  366. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    The most awesome thing I’ve ever seen:

    http://tinyurl.com/mx3q59

  367. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    The Yankees are not in critical condition. They do not need a “Doc.” :)

  368. Morris July 7th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Or we could say some people look at Hughes threw rose-colored glasses……

  369. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Montero has to be off the table.

  370. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    I agree, Cash, but that’s not the point. The point is if I’m not being realistic, it’s equally possible that the rose-coloreds are not being realistic. Removing Aceves from the pen is going to hurt – there is no doubt about it.

  371. you gotta have faith (aceves, you da man!) July 7th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    lol the Kung Fu panda is awesome, i hope he gets into the ASG.

  372. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    bodhisattva-I totally agree about Joba. He doesn’t get why he no longer has that ffastball or has fans on their feet screaming and wants that back.

  373. jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    You cant trade Chamberlain or Hughes for Halladay. Yankees are trying to win a championship this year Hughes and Joba are too valuable to this years team. Thats why is if you trade for Halladay the bluejays would probabably want Montero and Jackson because the yanks are not going to trade Hughes or Joba.

  374. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    # Rebecca–Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    The most awesome thing I’ve ever seen:

    http://tinyurl.com/mx3q59

    —————————–

    Order: Usually 3rd

    I’ve got tears in my eyes laughing at that one. Thanks Rebecca. Guy’s a hoot.

  375. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    I had the same thought as Doreen, above, that Doc is 32, and has another 3-4 good years ahead of him. Joba or Phil, if they pan out, has another decade plus.

    The thing is, that word IF – the biggest word in the English language.

    From what we read, Phil was on the table for Santana for a brief period, until that GM got greedy and blew it for himself. Doc has better stuff than Santana.

  376. Victor July 7th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    We’re playing in Anahiem… we’re in for a rocky road even if they pitch well.

    Angels are throwing their 2 best pitchers (Weaver/Saunders) at us along with Lackey who has struggled this year but can dominate on any given day.

  377. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Dan,
    Immagine what it will be like next year if Hughes continues to dominate in the pen? Joba and Hughes will be in their own fan reality show called “should i stay or should i go?” pen that is. Hope they both mature by next year or Frans-whatever his name is will have alot to talk about.

  378. Rob NY July 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Burger King Al — Do you remember what Pat M. was saying a couple of years ago that Hughes was looked at by scouts as one of the best young pitchers to come out of CA in decades. He is just now starting to reach tap that potential, you’d be selling low IMO.

  379. E-gawa July 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Toronto isn’t going to give Halladay away. I don’t think Hughes and Joba would be enough.

  380. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Betsy: and your preference for Thursday’s starting pitcher is…?

  381. Cash is King July 7th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    “I agree, Cash, but that’s not the point. The point is if I’m not being realistic, it’s equally possible that the rose-coloreds are not being realistic. Removing Aceves from the pen is going to hurt – there is no doubt about it.”

    Betsy,
    I said nothing about you being unrealistic, but you have a tendency to worry about things that may or may not happen. People have given you reasons why this is the best move for the moment. You’re not accepting them which is your right, but again, CC takes the ball twice, AJ once, Pettitte and Joba pitch well on the road and are taking the ball only once and then Aceves is on Thursday. One way or another, I think the Yankees will be able to handle these next six games.

  382. Z Man July 7th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Trading one of Hughes/Joba gives you a future rotation of

    Halladay
    Sabathia
    Burnett
    Joba/Hughes
    Wang (if he rights himself)

    You simply cannot pass that up.

  383. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Erica, lol – I made that threat about not being a Yankee fan if Phil was traded during the Santana talks……I just don’t intend to go through the wringer that way again, lol. I’m certainly not as big a Joba fan and if forced to, I would trade him first, but that’s only if I had a gun to my head. I wouldn’t trade either of them….

    I once (I forgot when, but I was much younger) threatened to quit being a Yankee fan and instead become a Met fan. It didn’t work, lol – my blood is pinstriped, so no matter what, I’m a Yankee fan. I just want Halladay gone to the NL or to remain in Toronto…..

  384. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    “# Rebecca–Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    The most awesome thing I’ve ever seen:

    http://tinyurl.com/mx3q59

    —————————–

    Order: Usually 3rd

    I’ve got tears in my eyes laughing at that one. Thanks Rebecca. Guy’s a hoot.”

    I call ‘em as I see ‘em. (My eyesight is a tad better than Marty Foster’s. But not much.)

  385. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Jake

    Hughes is not a starter.

    And he is what makes the pen “awesome”–unless we should talk about last years’ performance by both Hughes and the pen..yikes!

    Betsy- “only 3 yrs of Halladay effectiveness?”

    But Hughes will be the man still?

    Hasn’t Doc “already proved” his “effectiveness” as a starter?

    Has Phil Hughes?

    Don’t confuse the bull-pen with the rotation. Some can (Halladay), and some can not start (Hughes thus far).

    Doc is a kid still–not 40.
    See Clemens, Johnson, Ryan,Smoltz etc etc

    Yes, everyrthing on a blog is basically speculation. But “speculators” make a lot of ppl rich too :/

  386. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    For Halladay what prospect would be off the table?

    —–

    I would only hide Montero. Everyone else in the minors, look out!!

    I would always go with the known vs the potential. Accept for the manchild MONSTERO.

  387. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    Ihave to be a Yankee fan. I’m the type of person who just has to support certain teams. It’s in my blood. I couldn’t switch even if I tried. Which I don’t because al the teams I support are really good.

  388. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Ihave is of course I have.

  389. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    I agree Betsy. I can’t imagine the Yankees selling their entire system for Halladay. Just won’t happen.

    And I know what you mean. I threaten to break up with Brian Cashman everytime I hear a Johnny Damon trade rumor

  390. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Heyman:

    jays may want top SS prospect in package for doc. thats good for phils (donald), brewers (escobar), chisox (beckham)

  391. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Any objective Yankee fan has noticed Joba’s drop in velocity, 97-99 his rookie season, 95-96 his second season and everything since he hurt his arm in Texas has been 91-94. He really isn’t the same pitcher and believe me he knows that he isn’t throwing as hard, he just doesn’t want to call attention to that fact and have the Yanks panic and sit him down.

  392. G. Love July 7th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Saw it mentioned earlier and thought it bared repeating.

    The Yankees actually have something to gain by letting Joba’s name slip into the papers as a potential centerpiece of the deal.

    The guy loves NYC and loves the whole Yankee thing. I can’t imagine he’d be thrilled about pitching in Toronto where they get 10k for attendance on a good night. He’d like the strip clubs in Canada, but outside of that it’s akin to playing in nowhere-land.

    If that didn’t light a fire under his butt and get him to stop being obstinate I don’t know what would.

    And the best part about it is he couldn’t claim injury all of a sudden to get himself out of trade talks.

    If he did that, it would be the excuse the Yankees need to return him to the pen.

    So, he’d have a choice. Listen to the team, pitch better and remain a starter in NY or go to Canada for the next 5 seasons.

    In the old days a Yankee official would slip that to a media type to mention an unnamed source in the front office has said that is Joba is in play for Hallyday.

    Let’s see if it happens and what becomes of that kind of rumor.

    That said, I like the SJ plan of trading Joba or Phil for Hallyday and replacing them with a free agent signing of Chapman. He’s younger than Joba and left handed and throws as hard or harder.

    Definitely interesting moves open on the table right now.

    And when Pete gives a potential Yankee move his kiss of death on the board it generally happens.

  393. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Joba for Rick Porcello straight up

  394. BX 44 July 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Only untouchable for Doc is Montero

  395. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Al from BK-I did not notice the drop from first to second season but I noticed it this season.

  396. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Montero is 100% untouchable. Everyone else= fair game.

  397. jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    bodhisattva you are right people are making too much of Joba’s postgame comments. It is pretty obvious he is frustrated and the media has been asking questions about his velocity since spring training. He is just giving the same recycled answers. Joba is not dumb he knows he didn’t pitch well against the blue jays.

  398. Fran (the original) and OPPC member July 7th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    If the Blue Jays condition for getting Halliday is to take on Vernon Wells contract I don’t think they will get very many takers – even the Yankees. That contract runs through 2014 and is backloaded. And Wells looks to already be on the decline.

  399. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Bronx Bomber-If I were the Toronto GM I’d laugh and hang up the phone for that offer.

  400. Mark July 7th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    At their best, Joba is still better than Hughes.

    You can’t teach 100 MPH, 90 MPH slider, 77 MPH curve, and a bulldog mentality.

    If I have to give one for Doc, it would be Hughes.

  401. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    “Al from BK-I did not notice the drop from first to second season but I noticed it this season.”

    I mostly chalked up his change in velocity to him starting 95-96 mph fastball is more than enough for a power starting pitcher. However 91-94 just isn’t cutting it hence Joba’s increase in hits allowed and WHIP.

  402. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    # Rebecca–Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    “# Rebecca–Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    The most awesome thing I’ve ever seen:

    http://tinyurl.com/mx3q59

    —————————–

    Order: Usually 3rd

    I’ve got tears in my eyes laughing at that one. Thanks Rebecca. Guy’s a hoot.”

    I call ‘em as I see ‘em. (My eyesight is a tad better than Marty Foster’s. But not much.)

    ———————–
    I should photoshop a bat in Kung Fu Panda’s hand, but in the meantime this will do:

    http://i159.photobucket.com/al...../Panda.gif

    :D

  403. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Why would the Toronto GM be talking about Rick Porcello?

  404. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Heh, glad you guys are catching onto the awesomeness that is the Monstero!

  405. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Jake

    Hughes is not a starter.

    And he is what makes the pen “awesome”–unless we should talk about last years’ performance by both Hughes and the pen..yikes!

    —————-

    You obviously didn’t bother watching him pitch before his transition to the pen a few weeks back.

    They loved how he was pitching out of the rotation that they didn’t want to send him down because they knew he could help the team in some capacity.

    He had one really horrific start – the game against the Orioles.

    His ERA combined in his other 6-7 starts was about 3.50.

    If they didn’t think he was pitching well when Wang came back, they would have simply sent him down to Scranton and let him stay in the rotation down there.

  406. Matteo July 7th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    When was the last time the Yankees traded for a big name player? When was the last time a number 1 starter was traded to a division rival?
    Why is this even up for debate?

  407. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    I’d probably go straight to Detroits GM for that offer. Haha avoid the middle man I guess.

  408. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Nick in SF,

    Thanks for answering. As the only one who answered, you are the winner!

  409. jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Cashman didn’t trade Hughes or Chamberlain for Johan Santana. What makes people think he is going to give either one of them up for Halladay.

  410. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Al from BK-Well of course a 3 MPH drop is fine and has to happen for him to start and I’d be thrilled with that. But there’s a problem with a 7 or more MPH drop.

  411. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    You can’t teach 100 MPH, 90 MPH slider, 77 MPH curve, and a bulldog mentality.

    ===============================

    Lately with him it’s been a poodle mentality

  412. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    RT @bloggingbombers Alfredo Aceves to start Thursday for Yankees. Team will reassess 5th starter situation during All-Star break, but Hughes won’t be in that mix

    Halladay >>>>>>>> Santana

  413. Young Master Phil July 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Joba has much better stuff
    Hughes is more mature
    Both have shown they can dominate the pen

    Tough… I’d have to go with Hughes for Halladay. You can always mature as you get older, but Joba’s stuff is unbelievable.

  414. Rob NY July 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Mark – Where is that guy? I agree, if that’s what we have in Joba Chamberlain sure he must stay. But what if we have 92mph fastball 83mph slider and a nibbler? Which is all we’ve really seen this year. Maybe sell high on Jobamania?

  415. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    jfinfonsfosnf-Because Halladay is better than Santana.

  416. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    “But there’s a problem with a 7 or more MPH drop.”

    Couldn’t agree more. 91-94 for a power pitcher isn’t cutting it. Especially a power guy with suspect control, he needs that swing and miss fastball which has been missing this year.

  417. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Happy to see Aceves is getting the start. IMO anything else (like grabbing someone from below) would have been more disruptive than helpful.

    It will be interesting to see what decisions are made for after the All Star Break. (If Aceves can pitch the innings it would be great to see him get the go ahead though I can see the wisdom in putting Hughes back into the rotation.)

  418. Don 432 July 7th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Halladay is BETTER than Santana

    AL East proven. A workhorse. Doesn’t rely on one pitch. Will age very well

    Not like Santana at all.

  419. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Remember fellas. It wasnt long ago that Hughes man hood was questioned after bombing in baltimore. Since that humiliation he has become the Yankees bullpen savior ala Joba a couple years back. Maybe this is the same wake up call that Joba needed. I hope we all can laugh about this a month from now of how we wanted Joba traded or heading back to the pen after that horrendous outing.

    Im still worried about his velocity.

  420. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Come on Trisha-

    What you really want to say is “I told you so, Erica”. LOL

    Just kidding. You were totally right

  421. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Oh and many congrats to Alfredo sauce for getting the gig on Thursday

  422. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    “Al from BK-I did not notice the drop from first to second season but I noticed it this season.”

    I mostly chalked up his change in velocity to him starting 95-96 mph fastball is more than enough for a power starting pitcher. However 91-94 just isn’t cutting it hence Joba’s increase in hits allowed and WHIP.

    ————

    His velocity out of the pen in 2007 is irrelevant.

    All he did was take his two best pitches and throw them as hard as he could until he emptied the tank.

    Every pitcher is going to throw harder in the pen than in the rotation.

  423. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Why for Halladay, but not Johan?

    Halladay’s just awesome.

    And we’re not building around the 3 Amigos anymore.

  424. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    “Halladay >>>>>>>> Santana”

    Consider this:

    Halladay, Sabathia, Burnett, Joba, Pettitte :)

  425. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    What’s with all the people saying he’ll age well? You could guess that but since he hasn’t aged yet we have no idea.

  426. JJ July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Santana takes him out of games after 100 pitches and is a flyball pitcher

    Halladay is a horse, like having another CC. He also gets groundballs.

    Halladay is better than Santana or CC.

  427. jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
    July 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
    jfinfonsfosnf-Because Halladay is better than Santana.

    ————————————————

    But the team needed an ace when Santana was available. Now they signed Sabathia. Cashman whole point of signing Sabathia and not trading for Santana was because he could sign CC and not give up his farm system.

  428. Erik A July 7th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    YESSS! Congrats Aceves, go get ‘em!

  429. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    “Every pitcher is going to throw harder in the pen than in the rotation.”

    Of course, see Phil Hughes. However losing 7-8 mph going from the pen to the rotation is a bit suspect.

  430. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Unless the 3 amigos are CC & AJ on a Halladay.

  431. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    How many of you would trade Joba for Greinke straight up? How many would have even thought about it last year? Didnt Zack have an era above 5 last year? If Greinke can all of a sudden mature. Im sure Joba can follow suit.

  432. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Giuseppe Franco-You’re right; 3 MPH harder, like Hughes.

    But a 7 MPH drop is more than that, especially when scouting reports from the minors said a 94 to 96 MPH fastball and when he started last season before the shoulder injury he was throwing 94 to 96.

    But 91 to 94 (more usually 93) is a problem.

  433. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    “His velocity out of the pen in 2007 is irrelevant.

    All he did was take his two best pitches and throw them as hard as he could until he emptied the tank.

    Every pitcher is going to throw harder in the pen than in the rotation.”

    Joba’s velocity has declined from 2008 to now and has not shown any signs of abating.

  434. Insert July 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Wait,

    Because he is not some flame thrower who is reliant on velocity and shaky mechanics… a la AJ Burnett.

    He has a majestic delivery, doesn’t rely on his FB etc.

    Of course, this is assuming full health.

  435. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    “Cashman didn’t trade Hughes or Chamberlain for Johan Santana. What makes people think he is going to give either one of them up for Halladay.”

    Because Halladay’s better and that was 2 years ago when both these guys were untouchables.

    Doesn’t matter much anyway. Not happening.

  436. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    It would be a shame to break up ‘Generation Just Us Two’. :(

  437. Joeshi! July 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Al from BK
    July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
    “Halladay >>>>>>>> Santana”
    Consider this:
    Halladay, Sabathia, Burnett, Joba, Pettitte

    ——————————–

    and imagine if Wang every pitches as good as he did a few years ago in there instead of Pettitte

    Best. Rotation. Ever.

  438. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Our House–

    I guess its better than wasting ur time following around losers, huh?

    Poor “old” Cub fans.
    :(

  439. Joeshi! July 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    ever, not every

  440. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    jfinfonsfosnf-Yes, but our farm system has so far developed that we may not need to sell the farm. And Halladay is a whole different Ace than Santana was.

  441. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    rebecca_glass RT @ACPressSusan_L Amid news they’re willing to listen to offers on Halladay, Jays have a scout at Phillies game tonight. (via @ScottLauber)

  442. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    “Every pitcher is going to throw harder in the pen than in the rotation.”

    Of course, see Phil Hughes. However losing 7-8 mph going from the pen to the rotation is a bit suspect.

    —————-

    Go look at Joba’s start in Cleveland. He was throwing 97-98 MPH in the 8th inning after he had thrown 100 + pitches.

    That old Joba is still in there somewhere. He needs to be better conditioned next year and he needs to get his mechanics down and repeat his delivery.

    BTW, have you decided whether Sabathia and Teixeira is a bust yet?

    Just curious.

  443. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    I like:

    Doc
    CC
    AJ
    Wang
    Hughes

  444. SandMan July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Halladay will age well because he is not a 2-pitch pitcher like Burnett, etc. He has like 5 different pitches and great mechanics.

  445. jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Joba was hitting 94, 95 and 96 his last start. His velocity was fine against the bluejays, he just had no command of his pitches. That double Chavez hit off Chamberlain was a 96 mph fastball.

  446. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    From MLB.com

    “Sandoval, the Giants’ third baseman, had a slim lead in the NL Final Vote race over center fielder Shane Victorino of the Phillies. D-backs third baseman Mark Reynolds and Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp each have garnered more than two million votes and were right behind them, followed by shortstop Cristian Guzman of the Nationals.

    Sandoval and Victorino actually swapped leads during a dramatic Monday night of major campaigning on the field, with Victorino taking over after his four-hit performance in that 22-1 victory over the Reds — and then falling behind after Sandoval’s late grand slam.”

    VOTE THE PANDA!

  447. Roy from NY July 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    —–BREAKING NEWS—–
    Sources close to Brian Cashman (the dealer station conveniently on my walk home) quotes Cash as saying “Roy is indeed on the market and a deal should be done within the next few days.” All Right!!!….. that guy is on drugs.

  448. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Paddy-It wouldn’t matter if all of my teams were sub 500. I’d try and leave, but wouldn’t be able to. It’s in my blood.

  449. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Joba has a bulldog mentality but Phil doesn’t? Ok

  450. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Why is Sandoval called Kung Fu Panda?

    (Vote for the Flyin’ Hawaiian!)

  451. All Star July 7th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    It would be absolutley foolish to trade Joba instead of Hughes just because of some meaningless postgame comments.

    Joba’s upside is considerably higher. Can Hughes hit 100 MPH on his 97th pitch in Fenway Park like Joba did?

    As usual, people overreacting to a bad game.

    Joba > Hughes

  452. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    The flyin’ Hawaiian is currently taken by Victorino

  453. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    KUNG FU PANDA!

  454. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    I hope the deal is with New York. :(

    Seriously, I doubt we get him. But it’s harmless fun to dream, no?

  455. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    jfinfonsfosnf-Yeah, he hit 95, 96 like once a game.

    Come on, we’re talking consistently. People are deluding themselves if they think there is no problem with his velocity.

  456. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    “BTW, have you decided whether Sabathia and Teixeira is a bust yet?

    Just curious.”

    Hmmm, I haven’t been here for awhile but I’m pretty sure I never called either of those 2 busts. Sabathia has done about as good as you can do in the AL East 3 and change ERA, WHIP around 1.10. Tex looked like a joke the first 6 weeks and everyone was concerned, it’s awful convenient to look back and call out others for being wrong.

  457. LA Yanks July 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Red Sox would love it if we traded Joba instead of Hughes

    Trade the guy with the higher upside and more ML success… brilliant.

  458. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Oops. That’s New York Yankees, not the mets.

  459. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    All Star – Can Joba hit 100 MPH on his 97th pitch like he did in Fenway Park? No.
    Joba <= Hughes

  460. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    KUNG FU PANDA!

    I’M ON THE BANDWAGON!

  461. Dave July 7th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    To be fair, outside of a 3-week stretch, Teixeria has done nothing.

    3 good weeks does not override 9 mediocre/bad ones.

  462. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Nick,
    If this continues, we will be out of our money making t shirt business. Before you know it, it will be generation zilch, generation nada, generation finito, you get the drift.

    I think Halliday can age better in a dome stadium where theres hardly any run ins with the sun. Good for the skin.

  463. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Had a lousy day at work…in need of a good Yankee game tonight

  464. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    m July 7th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Why is Sandoval called Kung Fu Panda?

    (Vote for the Flyin’ Hawaiian!)

    ———————

    If you see any of his web gems, you’ll instantly find out.

  465. qiantom July 7th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Ace starting does not sound too attractive to me. What if he gets knocked around in his start? We will probably deplete the bullpen and forfeit the Angels series.

  466. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Erica, seriously, I do not read this forum much anymore so didn’t know (or care really :) ) who was rallying for what. And when I do come here I tend to read the title of Pete’s thread and then the posts closest to the end. So if you were rallying against Aceves, I wouldn’t have known that. Truly. Actually when you responded to my post your response was very reasonable about Aceves!

    To me, it was just common sense to go with Aceves. I tend to believe in the KISS theory in life. Using Aceves was totally keeping it simple. It wasn’t necessarily meant to be a life-long decision, I didn’t think!

    :)

  467. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    “Seriously, I doubt we get him. But it’s harmless fun to dream, no?”

    I just hope the Sawks don’t, they will just walk to another title if they get Doc.

  468. R+ July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    “Can Joba hit 100 MPH on his 97th pitch like he did in Fenway Park?”

    Hope everyone reads that if they talk about trading Joba over Hughes.

  469. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Bronx Bomber-I hope you realize the typo. He meant 97 MPH on his 100th pitch.

    Joba is IMO better than Hughesie.

  470. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Bronx Bomber,

    I know! Vote for Victorino!

  471. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Not to add to the rumor frenzy, but my own sources tell me that significant members of the Blue Jays organization were scouting the Yankees in the Bronx over the weekend!

  472. vtred July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    So is there still a rain delay at the MetroDome?

  473. jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    At worse with Joba if he fails as a starter you still him as the future closer after Mo retires. I never seen Hughes hit 98-100 out of the bullpen. Joba was hitting 97 late in the game against Indians this year that shows he still has his velocity. Even David Cone was saying that Joba is a battler mostly all the time he will keep the team in the game.

    Chamberlain >>>>>> Hughes

  474. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Dave-I disagree. Yes they do.

  475. D-Train July 7th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Throwing 100 MPH doesn’t require skill

    Bobby Parrnell threw 100 MPH in Boston in May too, now where is he? Has a 5+ ERA.

  476. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Shouldnt Kung Fu Panda be given to someone like Chan Ho Park? Didnt he do a round house kick on someone a few years back?

  477. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    jfinfonsfosnf-Who cares about velocity out of the pen?Hughes is getting the same results.

  478. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    D-Train: Throwing 100 MPH along with a wicked slider and a very good curveball is a great talent.

    And even now Joba does not have a 5 ERA.

  479. Joe July 7th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Joba has, and will always have a higher upside than Hughes

    Trying to condemn this kid for a little immaturity at age 23 is foolish. Where were you at age 23?

    You can’t teach 100 MPH. You can teach maturity.

  480. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Hmmm, I haven’t been here for awhile but I’m pretty sure I never called either of those 2 busts. Sabathia has done about as good as you can do in the AL East 3 and change ERA, WHIP around 1.10. Tex looked like a joke the first 6 weeks and everyone was concerned, it’s awful convenient to look back and call out others for being wrong.

    ————–

    Nah, you’re the same guy who kept whining that Cashman didn’t trade Hughes for Santana and proclaimed that you were going to wait until the ASB and decide whether these guys were worth it or not.

    You preferred Santana over both Hughes and Sabathia. That’s what you said and people were giving you a hard time for it back then.

    You also couldn’t stop whining about Teixeira and his struggles. I told you at the time that he would be fine.

    It was a no-brainer for the common sense folks. But not so much for the whiners.

  481. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    BloggingBombers: Jose Molina likely to return from DL tomorrow. Say goodbye to Francisco Cervelli, as Yankees won’t keep three catchers.

  482. m July 7th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Tex>>Giambi
    Tex>>Juan miranda
    Tex>>Swisher
    Tex>>Posada, Damon, or matsui

    And we don’t even know what Joba the Reliever would look like. He’s not exactly breaking out of the gates in the first inning. Is he still doing the pre-game bullpen session? I hope not, because he’s looking better and that means he’s conquered whatever issues he had in the first.

  483. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    D-Train – I will meet you somewhere and you can fire some balls in to me non skillfully at 100MPH

  484. Wi Zak July 7th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Dave Eliand toyed with Joba

    Once Eliand rectifies that, you’ll see consistent Joba.

  485. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    D-Train July 7th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Throwing 100 MPH doesn’t require skill

    Bobby Parrnell threw 100 MPH in Boston in May too, now where is he? Has a 5+ ERA.

    ————–

    So did Farnsworth and we know how well he’s worked out.

  486. ARK $$ July 7th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Bobby Parnell is another Farnsworth, atleast at the moment. FBs down the middle and nothing else.

    Joba has a devastating slider, curveball, and changeup. Wake me up when Hughes can say that. I can’t believe people want to trade Joba over Hughes.

  487. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    “Nah, you’re the same guy who kept whining that Cashman didn’t trade Hughes for Santana and proclaimed that you were going to wait until the ASB and decide whether these guys were worth it or not.”

    Obviously Sabathia has hit his stride, while Santana has fallen back a bit. I’ll admit I was wrong for now, however I’d still trade Hughes in the right deal. Namely to keep Halladay away from the Sawks.

  488. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    I would trade Hughes for Farnsworthless. Throws much harder and is a veteran in the pen.

  489. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    “Not to add to the rumor frenzy, but my own sources tell me that significant members of the Blue Jays organization were scouting the Yankees in the Bronx over the weekend!”

    I heard that too. They had like 30+ guys at the stadium every day for 4 days straight!

    A deal must be imminent.

  490. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    “Dave Eliand toyed with Joba

    Once Eliand rectifies that, you’ll see consistent Joba.”

    I haven’t heard this anywhere, can anyone confirm Eiland tinkering with Jobber’s delivery?

  491. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    I don’t get why people are saying Santana is declining after a bit of a bad stretch even though he was totally insane to start the season. I’m sure Santana will end the season pitching totally insane.

  492. Torro July 7th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Growing pains are not only on the mound, you know. A lot of times, it is maturity issues as well. Learning how to deal with faliure/success etc.

    As usual, Yankee fans have no patience, even with our phenom Joba. He has to have Jeter like maturity and Lincecum type dominance from day 1.

  493. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    ““Not to add to the rumor frenzy, but my own sources tell me that significant members of the Blue Jays organization were scouting the Yankees in the Bronx over the weekend!”

    I heard that too. They had like 30+ guys at the stadium every day for 4 days straight!

    A deal must be imminent.”

    Everyone relax, perhaps they were there because we were PLAYING their team! Seriously, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

  494. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    S.o.S.-All right, I want to know. What up with that comment?

  495. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Torro-The fastball velocity drop is the worrying thing.

  496. Angel (OPPC) - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing July 7th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Ack, you going to force me to somewhat defend MN aren’t you? LOL

    As someone who lives in Minnesota and has family in NJ/NY, can I just say that our weather so far this summer has been MUCH better than NJ/NY? There seem to have been way more postponed due to rain, or delayed started games in New York than there have been in MN.

    And its really not THAT cold in April/May, especially during the day and especially in the south of the state. Yes, we can have cold spells, but so can anywhere. :-P

    I’m actually looking forward to having an outdoor stadium. I agree the metrodome is stuffy and ugly. Although, it DOES have its advantages in knowing you can buy tickets and the game won’t be rained out.

  497. Vrsce July 7th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Blue Jays will listen to offers for Roy Halliday.

    Best pitcher in AL

  498. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Al – That is RIDICULOUS for Jays scouts to be at the game because the Jays are playing. You’re out of your mind deals coming. haha

  499. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Bronx Bomber-I doubt a deal, but I would be totally thrilled if they got Halladay.

  500. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    “Al – That is RIDICULOUS for Jays scouts to be at the game because the Jays are playing. You’re out of your mind deals coming. haha”

    I hope so, Halladay would be the missing piece IMO. However if Montero is in any deal, I am personally hunting down Cash.

  501. Maria July 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    I don’t want to trade Joba or Hughes. Guess that’s just the sentimental side of me that gets attached to players. I would love Doc Halladay but knowing it would take Hughes or Joba is the bad part for me. Just looking at old posts about the Santana trade people were so willing to throw away Hughes and now Hughes is no longer struggling and Santana has shown some signs of struggle recently.

  502. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    I hope scouts weren’t at the stadium watching Joba to see if it’d be worth it to make a trade. Didn’t exactly impress.

  503. Uncle Ellsworth July 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    ““Not to add to the rumor frenzy, but my own sources tell me that significant members of the Blue Jays organization were scouting the Yankees in the Bronx over the weekend!”

    I heard that too. They had like 30+ guys at the stadium every day for 4 days straight!

    A deal must be imminent.”

    Where did you guys hear this?

  504. Fran (the original) and OPPC member July 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Angel, are the Vikings staying in the Metrodome or are they moving to a new stadium too?

  505. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    IMO Santana is still a top 3 pitcher in baseball.

  506. Irrational Thinker July 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Joba is our of shape. Once he conditions himself better, the velocity will be there. He seems to get tired on the mound easily and just give up and lose concentration.

  507. jfinfonsfosnf July 7th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    ARK $$
    July 7th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
    Bobby Parnell is another Farnsworth, atleast at the moment. FBs down the middle and nothing else.

    Joba has a devastating slider, curveball, and changeup. Wake me up when Hughes can say that. I can’t believe people want to trade Joba over Hughes.

    ————————————————–

    Joba throws harder than Hughes and has much better secondary pitches. There are a ton of people who want Joba to be the teams future closer and there are people who think Joba can be the future ace of the yankees that how talented he is. Chamberlain also has a lower ERA than Hughes as starters. Hughes is going to be a very good pitcher but I cant believe people are saying he is better than Joba.

  508. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    All this Halladay-dreaming stuff is giving me a headache.

    So, about the game tonight, hopefully CC has a bounce back performance.

    Guess I’ll watch the Mets vs. Manny for an hour

  509. Rich July 7th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    I don’t care how hard the Jays try next year they will not make the playoffs…it’s impossible for them in this division. Therefore, if someone is willing to give them A prospects and maybe eat a contract or two then Riccardi has to be even more dumb than I gave him credit for.

    They need to trade him now before the deadline because teams like the Yankees/Sox/Rangers/Rays/Cubs ect. are going to be more desperate in a pennant race than in the off season when they can take a step back and think about things while no games are being played. And if either the Sox or Rays start looking if he enters the market you can bet your life that Cashman will be all over it.

    IMO – I’d let them have Joba, Romine, and Melancon for Wells and his contract if that’s what it took.

  510. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    wake me up, when the Roy Holiday talk is over.

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  511. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Yeah it would be all right, but I think the Yankees will bluff at Halladay and bring someone else in. I am promising they acquire a starting pitcher, but who not sure.

  512. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    S.o.S.-All right, I want to know. What up with that comment?

    ———–

    Just a bit of sarcasm. Im worried about Jobas velocity dropping just like anyone else. But what im more concerned about is his control problems. If you cant throw any other pitches for strikes than it doesnt matter if you throw 100. A big league hitter will sit on it and deposit it into the seats. Farns threw hard but his balls were allergic to home plate. I cant predict who will be the better pitcher hughes or joba. All i can say is look at Aceves. Less velocity but keeps hitters guessing by throwing all pitches over the plate at all times.

  513. Wangawa July 7th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Would have liked to see Mitre start Thursday just because Aceves has been so useful in his current role. Not that big of a deal, though.

    Also, would Toronto seriously consider trading Halladay to an AL East rival? I know the Yanks and Sox could offer some great young talent for him, but still.

  514. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    “All this Halladay-dreaming stuff is giving me a headache”

    thank you.

    this blog is too predictable at times.

  515. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    I could dream about getting Halladay all day.

  516. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    BloggingBombers(Feinsand): Yankees fans should forget about Roy Halladay in pinstripes. Even if Toronto trades him (which I doubt), it won’t be within the AL East.

  517. Paddy July 7th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Re: Halladay…It would all depend on whether or not Halladay would want to be a FA while in NY.
    …..

    House:
    Try 97 to 98 mph. Google it.

    And he reached it throughout the game.
    He went 106 pitches and his very last one was 97 mph. Same in Tamapa.

    But you can believe that he “just lost 6 mph”..

    Also–Tex was an Angel, right? So–yes, he was in the AL.

    As was Clemens, cone and wells–who weretraded here.

    Tor wasn’t incontention then? Tryagain–theywere winning WSC rings back then. That’s why Clemens went there…

    6 back is out of it? Don’t tell NY that…last year and the year prior???

    They’re trading as to not lose him for nothing. And looking for TOP talent to re-build. Rogers Fam is loaded too, they’re not Tx.

    L8r dude.

  518. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    No Al,

    Those games were totally coincidental. I’ll repeat: 30+ guys/4 days straight!

    What uniform # do you think they’ll give Roy? Will he start on Thurs or Fri?

    Also, I’m hearing that the Yanks are scouting hard on either Mauer or Morneau! A massive Yankee presence has arrived in Minn.

    This is just unreal.

  519. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Hughes, Romine and McAllister for Halladay? We lose those guys but get to keep, Montero,Melancon, Ajax and Joba. I think the deal is fair.

  520. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Agreed 100% with Pete’s post on Halladay. That’s pretty much what Wave and myself have been saying all day.

    First of all I doubt Halladay gets traded this season. The Jays have a good team.

    Secondly, if he is traded Ricciardi will make every attempt to get him out of the division.

    Third, Philly needs him more than the Yankees and they have the pieces to make a trade happen.

    Finally, the Yanks probably don’t want another huge contract for a player over 30. Especially not when they have to give up young, cost controlled talent like Joba/Hughes.

    Anyways enough of that subject, GO YANKS

  521. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    1-0 Oakland

  522. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    UPDATE, 6:56 p.m.: While I’m happy for the chatter on the blog, I think people are getting way ahead of themselves on the idea of Roy Halladay coming to the Yankees. A few points:

    • He’s three years older than Johan Santana was when the Yankees decided against trading for him.

    • Toronto is not going to want to trade him within the division unless they get knocked out by a deal. Think Cano, Chamberlain, Jackson, Hughes, Montero, etc. Players like that. Don’t waste time trying to come up with 17 players the Yankees don’t need. You’ll need to experience pain to make this deal. Real pain.

    • Holliday has roughly $7 million left this season. I no longer believe what the Yankees say about budgets. But that’s a lot to add. The Yankees wanted money back from Pittsburgh to take on Eric Hinske.

    • The Phillies need him a lot more. And it takes him out of the league.

    • The Jays could theoretically get more in December than they could now.

    • Halladay has a no-trade clause. So he will want to be compensated in some form for waiving that. That means a contract extension. Think $36 million over two more years or a total commitment of $60 million or so over 3.5 years.

    Yes, it’s fun playing GM. But such a trade has a lot of hurdles to overcome.

  523. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    People also need to understand something else regarding Joba and his velocity.

    When he’s feeling it, his game ramps up a quite a bit. He had a terrible 1st inning against Boston and he then really started getting into a groove and he was unhittable.

    He had 12 K’s that night in 5.2 IP.

    We saw Phil Hughes last season rarely throw harder than 92 MPH.

    But he worked his ass off in the offseason and he came back much more confident in his ability and was throwing everything with a lot more conviction.

    Over Hughes’ last few starts before he was sent to the pen, he was throwing his fastball consistently in the 93-94 MPH range.

    He has since been sent to the pen and added a couple more ticks on his fastball.

    The point is this – success breeds confidence. Hughes has a swagger right now that Joba just doesn’t. That makes a big difference. It probably doesn’t make a 7 MPH difference but a significant difference nonetheless.

    Joba was feeling it in that game against Cleveland and he was rolling. The numbers don’t lie – he was cranking 97-98 MPH cheese in the 7th and 8th innings that night.

    You’d be surprised how much getting into a rhythm and trusting your stuff makes your stuff a lot better.

  524. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Al from BK,

    If I’m the Jays I say NO WAY to that deal. Just my opinion though… I think they could get a lot more for Halladay

  525. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Paddy-You are deluding yourself if you don’t think there’s a significant and obvious velocity drop.

    And Tex was traded out of the division. He was not traded from the Angels to the Rangers.

  526. Rich James July 7th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Well…Pete told us that Mark Teixeria wasn’t coming to the Bronx after the Swisher trade! LOL hahahaha

    If the Yankees want Doc Halladay…they will get Doc Halladay!

  527. jake July 7th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Oh, come on, Peter.
    The Blue Jays would take Shelly Duncan, Jonathan Albaladejo, and Ramiro Pena for Roy Halladay in a heartbeat!!!!

  528. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Just so that it sinks in:

    UPDATE, 6:56 p.m.: While I’m happy for the chatter on the blog, I think people are getting way ahead of themselves on the idea of Roy Halladay coming to the Yankees. A few points:

    • He’s three years older than Johan Santana was when the Yankees decided against trading for him.

    • Toronto is not going to want to trade him within the division unless they get knocked out by a deal. Think Cano, Chamberlain, Jackson, Hughes, Montero, etc. Players like that. Don’t waste time trying to come up with 17 players the Yankees don’t need. You’ll need to experience pain to make this deal. Real pain.

    • Holliday has roughly $7 million left this season. I no longer believe what the Yankees say about budgets. But that’s a lot to add. The Yankees wanted money back from Pittsburgh to take on Eric Hinske.

    • The Phillies need him a lot more. And it takes him out of the league.

    • The Jays could theoretically get more in December than they could now.

    • Halladay has a no-trade clause. So he will want to be compensated in some form for waiving that. That means a contract extension. Think $36 million over two more years or a total commitment of $60 million or so over 3.5 years.

    Yes, it’s fun playing GM. But such a trade has a lot of hurdles to overcome.

  529. Vrsce July 7th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Vinny

    Too bad it bores you, however Halliday will be traded and soon.

    So either the Yankees are there or not, but it is valid to discuss unless you want to talk about Michael Jackson.

  530. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Patrick-You, Pete and Wave are right.

    But I hope not.

    Franco-There is a velocity issue. There is. It’s an obvious one.

  531. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    I think I’m with Al from BK. History here tells me there is no deal in the works because I’ve seen too many active imaginations with things that turn out to be nada.

    Safest way to do life is to either wait for Pete to tell you something might be in the works (if he did already then I apologize – I didn’t see anything in his lead in) or wait for an announcement from the Yankee organization.

    JMO. That works well for me, but I also do well without knowing things until they are officially announced.

  532. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Ughh. This Halladay stuff is too much, all Ricciardi did was throw out a line asking teams to surrender their best prospects for Doc. I doubt anything happens, but its fun to dream.

  533. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    And just as I mention listening to Pete, an update appears.

    Yeah, lots of active imaginations on this forum.

    :D

    Bye Frankie. I’m sure we’ll see you again very soon. Thank you for the wonderful job you did.

    WELCOME BACK JOSE, WHEN YOU GET HERE!!!!!

  534. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    its weird hearing girardi talk and lady gaga sing in the same audio clip…what has this world come to

  535. m July 7th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Wow. I can’t believe people are against a little hypothetical trade talk.

    It was quite civil (just one little skirmish) and good fun.

  536. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    FWIW, Molina doesn’t have a hit in any of his rehab appearances thus far.

  537. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    i thought he was 1-10 as of yesterday?

  538. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Apparently Doc only wants to go to a title contender that leaves us, the Phillies, and of course the Sawks.

  539. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Rishi: his BA is .000

  540. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    “FWIW, Molina doesn’t have a hit in any of his rehab appearances thus far.”

    This isn’t much different than when he’s playing with the big club. LOL!

  541. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Tell AJ to call him

  542. Bronx Bomber July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    I heard Cash is gonna sign David Cone to a $4 M. a game deal for the rest of the season. Can anyone confirm this????

  543. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    fair enough – just going off a tweet I read yesterday…

  544. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Pete makes some very good points about any trade for Halladay. However, I think the Yanks will be in, and it will come to whether Ricciardi wants to deal him within the division, regardless of the package offered. That and the orders he gets from ownership, whomever that might be right now. Especially if there’s thoughts about selling the team.

  545. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    “Where did you guys hear this?”

    The original source was a combination of MY9 and YES, but DirecTV was my actual source.

  546. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    GF, good post – completely agree.

    I agree with Pete – I really don’t think he’s coming here. I don’t think the Yankees would part with Hughes or Joba, for one. More importantly, the Jays are not trading Halladay to a division rival – then to have to face him for the next few years? We’ll see if Doc is even traded…..

  547. Vrsce July 7th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Al

    In Canada they are saying that Halliday has stated he will not resign and the Blue Jays owners want to cut payroll, so Halliday is going to be traded, maybe not the Yankees, but he is going.

  548. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 7th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Patrick-You, Pete and Wave are right.

    But I hope not.

    Franco-There is a velocity issue. There is. It’s an obvious one.

    ————–

    Did you read and understand anything I said? Anything at all?

    His conditioning is probably a big part of it. But that Joba of old is not dead. It’s still in there somewhere and it comes back to him on occasion when he really gets into a rhythm.

    Maybe an offseason of boot camp will make his velocity more consistent next season.

    He also has to get his mechanics down consistently.

  549. Al July 7th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Molina hit a double playing for Scranton. So he’s 1-10.

  550. m July 7th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Pretty sure Hosey had a hit.

  551. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Halladay would kill in the NL. If I were him, I’d OK a deal to PHI. The Mutts could use him as well, but they won’t pony up the cash nor do they have the prospects to get that deal done.

  552. raymagnetic July 7th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    JMO but I’d take back Wells if it landed Halladay.

    However taking back Wells = No Joba, No Hughes, No Jackson and No Montero in the deal.

    After that take your pick of the farm.

    I don’t care how much money Wells is owed, the Yankees will make that money back once they win the 3 three WS and start a new dynasty.

    Wells/Swisher/Melky or Gardner/Halladay > Bay or Holliday/Swisher/Melky or Gardner in my opinion.

  553. you gotta have faith (aceves, you da man!) July 7th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    i will miss pretty eyes, but carrying 3 catcher is not what this team needs.

  554. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    that’s what I thought, too, Al & m

  555. you gotta have faith (aceves, you da man!) July 7th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    oh, and vote for pablo! :)

  556. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Molina hit the ball so hard he broke their drainage system.

    He’s ready.

  557. S.o.S. July 7th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    “FWIW, Molina doesn’t have a hit in any of his rehab appearances thus far.”

    ——

    If he had THE EYES it would be forgettable im guessing.

  558. Uncle Ellsworth July 7th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Nick in SF
    July 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    “Where did you guys hear this?”

    The original source was a combination of MY9 and YES, but DirecTV was my actual source.

    I thought Fortunoff was the source?

  559. m July 7th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    And you can’t dismiss this story. It’s a pretty big deal. JP has already informed Doc that he might be traded.

    This is a huge deal. Admitting that you’re open to calls is half the battle.

  560. jonnie July 7th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    i would do joba and prospects in a second for doc

  561. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Monlina hasn’t had a hit as a Yankee. Hes ready baby!

  562. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    “Pretty sure Hosey had a hit.”

    He did.

    Oakland leading 1-0 in the 2nd.

  563. randy l. July 7th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    “randy makes a good point. Maybe we should trade Hughes to Tampa for Neil Allen.”

    nick in sf-

    good one.

    all kidding aside why keep wang if they are just going to ruin him and then just let him walk as a free agent or release him. neither cashman nor eiland clearly have any idea what to do with him .

    the yankees should get what they can from the rays. i mean how good could wang be just because he was reunited with neil allen? the yankees could trick the rays into taking the washed up wang.

    i mean, if cashman and eiland couldn’t get wang back to what he was , who could?

    allen really didn’t know what he was doing when he turned him into a star. it was just dumb luck. what’s the chance of that happening again ?

  564. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Ken davidoff says that JP is looking for a “Teixeira type bounty” for Halladay…so that basically means at the very least Hughes/Joba + Ajax+ Romine+ Z-mac and who knows what else….maybe even Monstero ( i like that nickname) in place of romine…

    its all nonsense to me…i want nothing to do with Roy if it costs that much

  565. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    “i would do joba and prospects in a second for doc”

    Are you kidding? Joba is 23 and under a rookie deal for several years, no Joba, no Montero in any deal.

  566. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Oakland WAS leading in the 2nd.

    1-1

  567. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    raymagnetic – good thought. Although I’d try to make it Rios instead of Wells. Although not as much as Wells, Rios is still owed a nice chunk of change. If Ricciardi is trying to cut payroll in preparation to sell the team, then cutting payroll is cutting payroll.

  568. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    1-1 bos oak tied

  569. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Bay hit one out.

  570. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Monstero’s reached on an E5 and then went from 1st to 3rd on an E6 I think.

  571. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    “Vinny
    Too bad it bores you, however Halliday will be traded and soon.
    So either the Yankees are there or not, but it is valid to discuss unless you want to talk about Michael Jackson”

    would prefer to discuss Halliday going to the Phillies, not the Yankees.

    as the Yankees are currently on the right course.

  572. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    “at the very least Hughes/Joba + Ajax+ Romine+ Z-mac”

    No thanks JP, you can plunder another team’s farm system were not that desperate. 3 top prospects is more than fair, the Mets got Santana for Carlos Gomez and a bucket of balls.

  573. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    ray – I misread your post – if we get to keep Joba and Phil, and the others you named, under that scenario, I take Wells with Doc. Absolutely.

  574. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Man, I hate Bay.

  575. randy l. July 7th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    “I heard Cash is gonna sign David Cone to a $4 M. a game deal for the rest of the season. Can anyone confirm this????”

    just don’t put him in the bullpen.

  576. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Al from BK
    July 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
    Man, I hate Bay.
    ===============================

    I typed and deleted the same thing :)

  577. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Hank Steinbrenner and Randy Levine for Halladay

  578. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    “Man, I hate Bay”

    word.

    he’s not even that good

    well, until he got to Boston. grrrrrrrrrr

  579. pat July 7th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    “Apparently Doc only wants to go to a title contender that leaves us, the Phillies, and of course the Sawks”

    Angels? Big market without the scrutiny of East Coast baseball which is more like what he was used to in Toronto. Chance to be a contender, in need of pitching and an owner who isn’t afraid to write a check. Just saying.

  580. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    “Hank Steinbrenner and Randy Levine for Halladay”

    only if we have to throw in Lonn Trost.

  581. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    http://www.channelsurfing.net/.....p?w=110720

    SWB Yanks if anyone wants to watch

  582. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    “Hank Steinbrenner and Randy Levine for Halladay”

    Throw in Lonn Trost too.

  583. BBFan July 7th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Pete,

    With due respect to your views on Halladay, you have been wrong before (Tex for example) and any thing can happen. Yes, this year it will be a budget issue, but next year a lot comes off the budget and it is manageable. They got money for Eric Hinske is not a sign of any thing. That is how Yanks valued the deal and Pittsburg was ready to oblige, nothing more than that.

    If they get Halladay, Yanks chances of winning WS increase dramatically. That pays for more times than the 7 mil they add to the payroll. Do not forget this aspect of the impact of Halladay on the team.

    Ultimately it comes down to what is the price in prospects. If it is manageable like the proposals SJ made, they will go for it. Assuming they have to extend his contract for two years as you say for 36 mil, if they win two WS in the next four years because of this move, it is worth it. With the success and the associated increase in revenues, the budget will take care of itself.

  584. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    That other Texeira in the Yanks’ system is pitching something awesome tonight.

  585. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    “Angels? Big market without the scrutiny of East Coast baseball which is more like what he was used to in Toronto. Chance to be a contender, in need of pitching and an owner who isn’t afraid to write a check. Just saying.”

    Eh, Angels are on the fringe. They are not as good as the Yanks offensively, or in the rotation. I suspect AJ to be a draw for Doc if the Yanks get involved the 2 were very close in Toronto and AJ credits Doc with helping to fix his pitch selection and style. Also Mo and Doc are always very chummy at the All Star Game, Just Sayin’.

  586. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Oh what the heck: Hank, Randy and Lonn for Halladay.

    Get on the phone Cashmoney

  587. Tank July 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Re: Halladay trade, think of it this way, why would the yankees want to pick up hallday now, at age 32 when they could’ve have gotten a better pitcher for less in Santana 2 years ago? Santana was 28 when he got traded. And for what? He got traded for sack of potatoes and two so-so players.

    BTW, Halladay is on the DL every single year. Albeit he’s a very, very good pitcher, he has at least one stint on the DL every year.

  588. Mark July 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    I would trade Doc for Halladay, but I’m not trading Monstero.

  589. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    noooo ajax got thrown out for the first time this year….14-1

  590. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Wow, nice DP by the A’s!

  591. 7 UP July 7th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Agree, Al – AJ will help us out with Halladay if the discussions get serious.

  592. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    “That other Texeira in the Yanks’ system is pitching something awesome tonight”

    he looked like he had skills, back in spring training

  593. Zach July 7th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Ralphie,

    Marty Foster was assigned to Scranton?

  594. E-Rod July 7th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    I want the Phillies to get Halladay, oh man would WFAN be a riot.

  595. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Zach: I think he’s refering to AJax attempting to steal.

  596. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    All of that is true Pete.

    Allow me to play devils advocate…..

    What if Roy doesn’t want to go to Philadelphia? He has a full no trade and holds all the power. Perhaps he doesn’t want to change leagues and wants to play with AJ, who constantly tells him how “great” it is to be a Yankee?

    Perhaps he sees rings and a first ballot HOF nomination if he comes to NY for 5 years. Wouldn’t be the first guy to feel that way. That was a big reason Reggie came to NY in 1977.

    Perhaps he’s comfortable knowing the AL and isn’t interested in learning a new league.

    With the economy the way it is, fewer and fewer teams will have the means to do this deal even in the winter. That makes it tougher for JP to do the deal in the off-season.

    Trading him in the division never stopped the Jays from dealing Cone and Clemens to the Yankees.

    Its about landing the right package for him.

    Would it take a lot? Define “a lot”?

    More than Santana? Well, Hughes or Chamberlain and Romine to start is already more than Minny got for Santana. Any other sweeteners to that package already tops the Santana deal and just about any other deal he will find on the market.

    The more time goes by, the less the package becomes in these types of deals. See Bill Smith’s dealing with Santana as Exhibit A on how NOT to trade a marquee pitcher.

    The last question to be answered….

    “Why would the Yankees make that deal when they wouldn’t deal Hughes for Santana 2 years ago”?

    That’s the easiest one to answer.

    The Yankees offered Hughes, Marquez and Melky for Santana and got turned down. Had the Twins said, “yes”, that deal would have gone down and Phil Hughes would have been traded.

    Fact is, Minnesota turned the deal down. It wasn’t the Yankees refusing to part with Hughes.

    Now, you have two young guns in Hughes and Chamberlain. If you deal one, you still have the other. That’s one distinction from the Santana talks.

    The other distinction is, with CC, AJ, and Wang already here, and one of the young guns still remaining, plus over 40 million coming off the books, the Yankees could slot him in easily.

    Especially if he wants to play in NY.

    Last wild card in all this…..Chapman.

    If you lose one of the young guns in the Halladay deal, you can always sign Chapman to fill that gap.

    Two years from now, you have a 23 year old LH who throws 100 waiting in the wings to be added to the rotation.

    The Yankees have a bunch of ways to go here and all of them are favorable to them.

    Standing pat is favorable.

    Getting Doc is VERY favorable.

    Getting Doc and signing Chapman over the winter is also VERY favorable.

    The only unfavorable thing from the Yankees perspective is Doc ending up in Boston. JMO but, if they feel that’s his destination, they will make sure they get him. Just as it was with Tex this past winter.

    The money? I, like you, refuse to drink that Kool Aid again. I’ll believe the Yankees back out of talks to acquire a marquee player because of money when it actually happens.

    If it does, it will be the first time in the history of the Steinbrenner Family owning the team that money stood in the way of doing a deal.

    In other words, money ain’t gonna be the reason they don’t get the guy.

  597. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    E-Rod July 7th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    I want the Phillies to get Halladay, oh man would WFAN be a riot.

    Its gonna be a riot if he goes anywhere but the Mets.

  598. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Mets just walked in a run

  599. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Wow, SJ – long post, but interesting read :)

  600. David July 7th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Finally SJ… the voice of reason.

    Nice to see someone not just echo the robotic “He won’t be traded in the AL East” argument.

  601. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    To me best case Doc goes to Philly. Out of AL, and torments the Mets.

  602. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Mitre is dealing

  603. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    And Manny just blooped one.

  604. 2009 Yankees July 7th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    For ANY Yankee fan who thinks the Yankees will swoop in and grap Halladay, FORGET. He hate Yankee Stadium because of that right field porch. If he goes anywhere, it will be in the NL or out in the AL West. Either way, I seriously doubt Roy gets traded THIS year. He has a FULL no trade so it’s his final decision.

  605. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    We have to be in on the Halladay talks just to make JH’s Twitter short-circuit.

  606. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Doc on the Phillies with Hamels? Jeez, the Mets might as well fire-sale and give up the season if that happens.

  607. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    “Marty Foster was assigned to Scranton?”

    haha good one

  608. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    I don’t want Halladay unless he’s a FA.

  609. Tank July 7th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Halladay on the Phils would feast! He doesn’t have to battle 3 of the best hitters in the NL bc they are on his team. And besides Pujols and Hanley, who scares him? Manny? He knows him.

    Go the NL and become a first ballot Hall of Famer! Go to the Phils and you got a shot at winning a ring!

    A Hamels-Halladay combo in the playoffs would be just filthy and a nightmare.

  610. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    “We have to be in on the Halladay talks just to make JH’s Twitter short-circuit”

    : )

    and John Henry is a twit

  611. LA Yanks July 7th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Halladay hates our ballpark but will got o Philly? :?

  612. m July 7th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Did anyone see the Green GIDP?

    Looks like Giambi threw to third for the 2nd out!

  613. jpb1973 July 7th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Wow!!! I just saw on the MLB Network that the Cardinals have put Mark DeRosa on the 15 day disabled list. I’m glad that we didn’t trade for him. He’s 34 years old and now has a bad wrist.

  614. KO July 7th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    The Yankees don’t need Halladay nearly enough right now to give up the prospects it would take to get him. It just doesn’t make sense considering they just got CC and AJ.

  615. 2009 Yankees July 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    I don’t think Halladay will go to Phila either….he would win 25 games in a PITCHER’S ballpark though

  616. R+ July 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Halladay-Hamels in a short series will be destructive.

    Especially with their offense and if Lidge/Madson get straightened out.

    Makes all the sense in the world from their standpoint. But do they decide to empty the farm?

  617. five iron from fenway July 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    SJ – What of the reports that Chapman is 26? That popped up then died down. Is age an issue with this kid?

  618. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    To me best case Doc goes to Philly. Out of AL, and torments the Mets.

    ===========================

    Imagine if that happens? I can already hear Joe Benigno screaming “oh the pain!” on WFAN

  619. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    “The Yankees don’t need Halladay nearly enough right now to give up the prospects it would take to get him. It just doesn’t make sense considering they just got CC and AJ”

    100% in a nutshell.

    and it should be posted 500 times

  620. Vrsce July 7th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    As long as he is out of AL East any trade will work. Preferably NL.

  621. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Like I said, I will definitely wait for official announcements on anything Yankee. Like vinny b, (I think it was vinny b) I guess I really find all of the speculation pretty boring. I have always had ADD when it comes to fan fantasy/theory forumulation on out-of-left-field issues…

    ;)

    Anyway,

    GO YANKEES!!!

    GO A’S.!!!!!

    Enjoy the game.

  622. BBFan July 7th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    “The money? I, like you, refuse to drink that Kool Aid again. I’ll believe the Yankees back out of talks to acquire a marquee player because of money when it actually happens.

    If it does, it will be the first time in the history of the Steinbrenner Family owning the team that money stood in the way of doing a deal.”

    Well, what about Beltran?

  623. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    I’d rather have Joba and Hughes instead of Chapman……just not willing to go there for Halladay.

  624. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    The bottom line is, he’s not going to get a Teixeira style deal for Doc because the times have changed since that deal went down.

    Fewer teams can take on Doc’s deal as it is right now, let alone an extension.

    Since the Braves got fleeced, nobody else is going to line up and get fleeced again.

    An everyday player like Tex will always garner more on the trade market than a pitcher because he plays in 5 times the amount of games per year than a pitcher.

    When you cut through all of this stuff, here is what we know….

    They have to trade him at some point or they only get draft picks for after 2010. That’s not an optimum situation for Toronto.

    He has a full no trade clause. JP could put a deal in place and if Doc doesn’t want to go to that team, it ain’t gonna happen.

    When you look at the three factors that have to be in place to deal Doc: He waives his no trade, the players coming back to Toronto AND the team acquiring him signs him to a new deal, there are maybe 3-4 teams that can meet that criteria.

    The Yankees are one of them.

  625. Joe July 7th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Halladay is 32 yrs old and has never played in the postseason or ever been in a winning situation.

    I doubt he is too picky on which team he goes to. If he can play in Philly or NY, I’d bet he would absolutely jump at it. He doesn’t strike me as a sissy like Peavy who only wants a comfortable situation and would rather lose than come East in a big ballpark.

  626. Vrsce July 7th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Trisha

    why is it out of left field?Pete is right in stating that the Yankees are not likely to be the destination, but the Jays have said they are ready to trade, their ownership wants to cut payroll and Halliday will not sign an extension. Perhaps you are wrong.

  627. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Kanekoa Texeira has pitched four 1-2-3 innings for Trenton. And yes, he started.

  628. Tank July 7th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    I think if you’re a team like Philly, you go for it. You have a legit opportunity to win championships for the next two years. You have a great offense 1-6. Seriously, besides the dodgers and maybe, maybe the Cards, who stands in their way of making it back to the World Series?

    Pull that trigger.

  629. five iron from fenway July 7th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    The radio in Boston was all excited about a package of Bucholz and Bowden and another 1 or 2 for Halladay.
    Will the Red Sox pull off this trade.

    Age of Chapman???

  630. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Holliday could be a Curt Schilling. I don’t care how old he is. If we can get him, get him.

  631. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Lets go Yankees! Rebound CC!

  632. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    “I’d rather have Joba and Hughes instead of Chapman”

    Chapman is a stud, 100 mph, devastating breaking pitches and he’ll only cost money.

  633. KO July 7th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Yanks should definitely take this series, let’s hope CC bounces back tonight, I think he will

  634. jonnie July 7th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    sj-
    may be your best work to date
    kudos

  635. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Betsy,

    You are too emotionally involved to have a say in this! lol

    Seriously, Folks can’t prospect hug too much here.

    We are talking about Roy Halladay. He is a better pitcher than anybody the Yankees have right now, in or out of the farm system, not named Mariano Rivera and CC Sabathia.

    It will be that way for at least another 3-4 years. He’s that good.

    He isn’t some hick off the street.

    The Beltran deal wasn’t about money. It was about George wanting Randy Johnson when they said they were only signing one big guy that off-season.

    It wasn’t the money. It was George priorizing and deciding Johnson and not Beltran was the bigger need.

  636. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Vrsce, I probably should have said “extremely unlikely” rather than out of left field. I definitely think KO said it best, and vinny-b echoed the sentiment.

    “The Yankees don’t need Halladay nearly enough right now to give up the prospects it would take to get him. It just doesn’t make sense considering they just got CC and AJ”

    JMO of course, but I don’t think people always stop to think of reality when a fancy name appears on the scene. All they can see is the fancy name.

  637. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Very well-put, SJ44, and I appreciate your saying it.

    And let me add that, while signing CC, AJ, and Tex gave the team a great chance to win now while simultaneously developing for the future, trading for Halladay COULD give the team an even better chance to win while the Jeter/Posada/Rivera window is still open but without emptying the cupboard. Extra emphasis on COULD given the highly-speculative nature of the discussion.

    Anyway, we play tonight, we win tonight, dassit!

  638. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Oops, I meant I’d rather keep Phil and Joba and potentially get Chapman instead of giving up one or the other for Halladay and getting Chapman.

  639. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Anyone think that if the twins win there will be some pie mocking? I mean they had to watch us celebrate like maniacs 3 days in a row :). They might be harboring some anger issues.

  640. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    On the other hand, reality is that poor Dana Eveland is having a tough time. Hopefully he gets this third out…

  641. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Let’s go Yankees

  642. five iron from fenway July 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Anyone is Chapman 21 or 26??

  643. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    The Yankees will get him before Boston will. Think Mark Teixeira without the no trade.

    It doesn’t matter what the Phillies do. Doc controls where Doc goes. Not JP, Peter Gammons or anybody else.

    Where he wants to go is where he will go.

    He’s an extreme groundball pitcher who strikes out a lot of guys. The ballpark won’t be an issue.

    Personally, I would be surprised if he changed leagues at this point in his career.

  644. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    LOL SJ, but I’m not saying this out of emotion. I felt it was ridiculous for the Yankees to trade Phil for Santana because even if he didn’t end up to be as good (very difficult to do, obviously), he was a young kid who I believed had the capability of being an ace some day. I was not willing to give up 6 years for a player who couldn’t guarantee a thing (not his fault – NO player can guarantee a thing). Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, so he’s better than Johan, but my philosophy still holds. This isn’t about prospect hugging, this is about believing in prospects who are going to be huge parts of the future.

  645. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Apparently Chapman is listed as 21, however you never know with international prospects.

  646. five iron from fenway July 7th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Al – That’s my point. A report came out that him his age as 26 during the WBC, but then there was no follow up. Be nice if he really is 21.

  647. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Jeter!

  648. Uncle Ellsworth July 7th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    100 hits

  649. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    All available information re: Chapman’s age to date is that he is 21 years old.

    If information comes forward showing otherwise, it will be national news and you won’t miss it.

    Nick,

    That’s all I’m laying out here. You don’t have to be a Baseball America prospect groupie to look at the Yankees system, in comparison to other teams that would be in the bidding, add in the other factors to pull a deal off and see they can put together the best package.

    Obviously, we don’t know if they would want to do it.

    All I can say is, if I’m the GM, here’s my offer to JP:

    Hughes or Chamberlain, pick one.
    Austin Romine
    A list of 10 other prospects in AA and A ball and you pick 2.

    If he says, “no”? No harm, no foul.

    If he says, “yes”, you starting printing playoff tickets because a rotation of Sabathia-Doc-AJ-Pettitte and Wang puts you in a terrific position to go to the WS.

  650. trisha - OPPC lifetime member July 7th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Ugh.

    And that’s what happens when you play the odds. (Eveland just gave up a hit.)

    Betsy, JMO and I don’t need to write an endless post to convince you, I’m sure, but I don’t think you have to worry about Hughes. I believe he will continue to be seen as the future of the franchise by the Yankees and he won’t be going anywhere. They are extremely happy with him and likely see him as a necessary piece to their puzzle. JMO again, but then again, everything written here is just that right – JPO (just peoples’ opinions).

  651. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    I wonder what Vince Gennaro would say about the Yankees acquiring Doc. That’s the real issue here.

  652. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    “Al – That’s my point. A report came out that him his age as 26 during the WBC, but then there was no follow up. Be nice if he really is 21.”

    Sad but true, you just can’t tell “El Duque” is probably celebrating his 50th b-day soon but the way he pitched you’d never tell.

  653. five iron from fenway July 7th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    SJ – Thanks.

  654. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    “If he says, “yes”, you starting printing playoff tickets because a rotation of Sabathia-Doc-AJ-Pettitte and Wang puts you in a terrific position to go to the WS.”

    :)

  655. YankeeJosh July 7th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    I wouldn’t trade Joba or Hughes. Don’t think you can afford to give up either now, even for Doc.

    While Joba may have better upside than Hughes, he’s also more of an injury risk. It’s why teams passed on himin the draft. And the fact is he hasn’t been the same pitcher since he hurt his shoulder last year. All of Hughes’ injuries have been minor and not arm/shoulder.

  656. Pat M. July 7th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Texeria will break out tonight….He’s getting much better swings as of late…..Matsui back in the 5 hole, this is a very good thing….Giradi decided enough is enough……Doc Halliday 4 years 100 million to start…Say goodbye to Hughes or Joba, and Jackson as well …Just to start

  657. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Tex!

  658. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Hey there Tex

  659. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    that wasnt a strike to damon…hope CC gets the same zone

  660. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    If things worked out with Gerrit Cole last year and if the Tigers didn’t take Porcello ahead of the Yankees I wouldn’t have mind trading either Joba or Hughes.

  661. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    “This isn’t about prospect hugging, this is about believing in prospects who are going to be huge parts of the future.”

    That reminds me of some dialogue from Woody Allen’s “Love and Death”:

    Boris: Sonja, are you scared of dying?

    Sonja: Scared is the wrong word. I’m frightened of it.

    Boris: That’s an interesting distinction. …

  662. KO July 7th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    I’m happy about Matsui in the 5th hole as well. I mean we will see if it works out but you have to shuffle the lineup sometimes and Joe has been doing that lately. Ride the hot hand and see what happens.

  663. KO July 7th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Terrible job by Alex, let’s go Hideki…

  664. Bobby Posada July 7th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    “”UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: The Yankees released Angel Berroa today.””

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  665. Bret the Hitman July 7th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    SJ,

    Would you offer Hughes or Joba + Montero + 2 prospects from the list of 10 in A or AA?

  666. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Matsui!!!

  667. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    good job godzilla!…

  668. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Good start boys :)

  669. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Matsui, so CLUTCH! :)

  670. Benny Blanco July 7th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Mastui starting to heat up.

  671. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Matsui. I love.

  672. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Sui!

  673. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    matsui!!

  674. RS July 7th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    I love when Matsui gets on his hot streaks.

  675. m July 7th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    SJ,

    How badly do you think JP wants to get rid of Wells’ contract (though I like Rios better)?

  676. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    work him Swishy

  677. KO July 7th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Ugh, Swisher should have let that hit him, that’s a slider, take 1 for the team u have a 1-2 count

  678. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 7th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Monstero is untouchable

  679. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Eh

    Baker at 27 pitches

  680. Uncle Ellsworth July 7th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Nick in SF

    That is incredibly jejune

  681. Pat M. July 7th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    I know there are many here who are of the mind set that The LA Dodgers are a paper lion because of the NL West….Trust me, if they manage to come up with another starter, they wqill be the team to beat come October if theyt get to open up the Series in LA……Man they are a very good baseball team, and they’re young……

  682. Al from BK July 7th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Time for CC to be the man!

  683. vinny-b (RIP Air McNair) July 7th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    LoL @ Carlos Gomez batting 8th

    the crown jewel, in the Mets/Santana trade

  684. A-rod will never get it July 7th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    c.c lets do it big guy!!

  685. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Bret,

    Montero is untouchable to me. I’d walk away if they insisted on Montero.

    You deal one of the young guns, you get Halladay in return AND keep one of the young guns. You deal Montero, there is a steep dropoff to Cervelli, Romine etc.

    To me, Jesus Montero is untouchable in any trade because its rare you have a catcher with that kind of offensive ability at 19 years old.

  686. 2009 Yankees July 7th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    The only way Vernon Wells gets traded is if Toronto takes NOTHING in return or Toronto picks up a lot of his contract. They could do what the Marlins did and try to package him with Halladay and take less in return for payroll flexibility. I wonder if the Yankees would still be interested if they went that route.

  687. Paul from Cali July 7th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    So I live in California and tonight we only get the Twins feed on the MLB Extra Innings package. The top of the 1st just ended and I’m already so aggravated I’m ready to turn the game off!

    Will someone please call the Twins booth and tell their color guy to be quiet for 5 seconds! It’s like listening to someone on speed. Their play by play guy barely gets to finish a sentence before the color guy butts in with a pearl of wisdom like “Mauer just bent down to tie his shoe”, or “Baker just tugged on his cap again. See that!!”, or “CC Sabathia is a big guy with a big contract.”

    Let’s see…..where’s that mute button?……

  688. stuart July 7th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    let’s label swisher and cano the clutch twins. since they hit so well with RISP let’s all them the clutch bros or clutch twins…

  689. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    my sources say… Halladay will only go to a city that serves gravy with their fries. It’s a deal breaker.

  690. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    DT-

    Toronto will not accept any deal from the Yankees that does not include an old Yankee stadium urinal and some of the Yankee stadium grass seed

  691. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “Toronto will not accept any deal from the Yankees that does not include an old Yankee stadium urinal and some of the Yankee stadium grass seed”

    hey watchout!!…the grass seed was MY idea :P…i also suggested a brick form monument park…

    nice inning CC

  692. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Erica – good luck getting that grass past customs.
    The dogs will be all over that…

  693. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Paul from Cali: do you get your MLB package through a cable provider? I get it via DirecTV and usually get both the home and away announcers for each Yankee game. If you think listening to the Twins announcers is bad, just imagine if we were playing in Chicago…

  694. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    I’m stuck with Twins announcers on Extra Innings – featuring Bert Be Home By Eleven.

  695. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    GJ Cano

  696. pat July 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    “Halladay will only go to a city that serves gravy with their fries.”

    I read an article this weekend about Gagne pitching for an independent league team in Montreal now and he was eating fries with gravy (they called it putine) during the interview. :smile:

  697. RS July 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Cano- the bases empty batting champ.

  698. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    that was an EXCEPTIONAL ab by cano…kept fighting and got a double…but it was with the bases empty so it doesnt count :(

  699. Joeshi! July 7th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    cano got a hit with no one on base. what a surprise!

  700. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    see – no runner on, Cano hits ;)

  701. Scorpio July 7th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    I always crack up when they refer to “the baggie” or “the Hefty bag”.

    Way 2 go, GGBG!

  702. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    haha gardners playing dirty

  703. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    haha…good job gardner..do that all day

  704. Zooboy July 7th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Squeeze?

  705. PJH July 7th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Cano should hit leadoff. He is hitting .419 leading off an inning, .356 with bases empty.

  706. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    The Yanks can’t acquire Halliday and renegotiate his contract, and replace the offense they are losing, and keep their payroll ae 2009 levels.

    I’m not saying it’s impossible, the Yanks have been known to increase their payroll before, but I think it is unlikely,

    I posted this on the previous thread but I’ll do it again because not many were on then.

    In 2010, the Yanks’ commitments to CC, Tex, AJ, Mo, Posada, Jeter, ARod, Swisher, Rivera, Marte, Cano (and Brackman and Miranda will be approximately $162.5MM. That doesn’t include any pro-rated signing bonuses, and it doesn’t include any reserves against the $$ they will owe ARod once he gets to 660 HRs. It doesn’t take into consideration any $$ they might pay to sign Chapman.

    If they get Halliday, they’ll have to rework his contract to give him at least $20MM a year, probably more. The CC contract sets the mark there.

    That gets the payroll over $182MM. There payroll is approximately $201MM today, that leaves less than $19MM to replace Damon and Matsui (and Nady/Hinske), to give an arb increase to whichever of Hughes or Joba they keep, to sign another starter (Wang, Pettite, whoever), sign their CF (be it Gardner or Melky, and if Melky give him an arb increase), sign 5 more relievers, and an entire bench.

    I don’t think $19MM, or even anything close to that, gets you there.

  707. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    UPDATE, 8:35 p.m.: It is great to watch Cervelli sprint — and I mean sprint — up the line to back-up throws to first base. It’s like he’s racing the runner. A.J. Burnett and I were talking about ‘Frisco before the game. He gets a kick out of him, too. “It’s great to be 23 and have that kind of energy,” he said.

  708. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Cervelli needs a 5 run homer here to cement his job.

  709. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    almost. 0 out sac fly will do.

  710. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    good job cisco!

  711. PJH July 7th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Gardner steal 3rd time.

  712. RS July 7th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    It’s amazing how a guy like Cervelli can be so productive w/RISP and hitters with all the talent in the world, like Arod and Cano, can look so inept at times.

  713. Paul from Cali July 7th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Nick In SF: Yes, it’s Time Warner Cable. Some nights I get both home and away feeds, but usually it’s just the home feed. TW Cable doesn’t have enough channels to offer all the feeds every night. Plus in my market we don’t get any games in HD. This is what I pay for. :(

  714. Scorpio July 7th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    As much as I like Cervelli, he needs to be in AAA and get regular playing time like El Nino.

  715. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    cone is blind

  716. ray (sox fan) July 7th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Oakland just picked up another run.

    Now Sox leading Oakland 4-2 bottom of the fifth.

  717. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    ajax 1 for 3 with a ground rule double…no k’s!

  718. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    GJ Damon

  719. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    TEX lets go!

  720. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    It always amazes me how much quieter this blog is when the Yanks are winning!

  721. Bob July 7th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Boy, these guys couldn’t get anymore bloopers and lucky hits if they tried.

  722. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    “I read an article this weekend about Gagne pitching for an independent league team in Montreal now and he was eating fries with gravy (they called it putine) during the interview. ”

    Gagne in an independent league. Unbelieveable.
    He was born in Montreal – I think it is safe to assume he is now back on the gravy.

  723. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    “It always amazes me how much quieter this blog is when the Yanks are winning!”

    shhh dont stir up the demons

  724. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Tex again!

  725. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Tex!

  726. Bob July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Oh I guess they could. What a lucky 3-0 lead.

  727. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    I’m around :) just trying to multi-task here

  728. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    2 broken bat hits for Tex…I like it!

  729. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    whoa lawdy 8O

  730. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Lots of heads up baserunning by MPB Johnny Damon

  731. Vince July 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    I would never want to use Jesus Montero in the past tense. Saying he used to be a Yankee would be extremely regrettable for years.
    All talks come to a halt when he’s mentioned in a deal, Halladay or otherwise.

  732. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    I’m confused. I thought the yankees only scored on homeruns?

  733. Bob July 7th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    I guess when things are going good, you get every break in a game.

  734. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    What is up with this high strike

  735. RS July 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Yankees have 7 hits in less than 2 innings. If nothing else, this pitcher SHOULD be gone before 5 innings.

  736. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Bob-

    After yesterday’s debacle the Yankees are owed lots of baseball good karma

  737. 2009 Yankees July 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    If Cervelli wants to play regularly in the minors, he’s better off in Trenton. Scranton is a tough call these days…lol

  738. Paul from Cali July 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Sorry NYY626, but they only score on errors because according to the Twins broadcasters it’s not possible to get an earned run off Baker.

  739. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    arod is saving his hits for the later innings when it counts more…

  740. Bret the Hitman July 7th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    SJ,

    I am surprised that you would forgo 4 years of Halladay and a chance at 4 rings while Jeter, Arod and Posada are still together and the window is open.

    Jesus Montero is our Hanley Ramirez.

    I still believe the Sox were correct by locking down Beckett even at the cost of Hanley. He helped them win a ring.

  741. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    alright, that’s it.

    bring in cody ransom. :razz:

  742. pat July 7th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    The streak of Alex never getting a hit off Baker continues. :sad:

  743. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    57 pitches for Baker

  744. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Do you think Girardi might wish he didn’t give ARod that day off? :) I know it was necessary, but he was on such a roll.

  745. Pat M. July 7th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Not sure if I’ve ever seen Alex have such a bad swing, especially with 2 strikes…..He must have been thinking off speed….

  746. RS July 7th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Agreed, Montero should be untouchable. There’s still some question over whether he can be a major league catcher, but if so, his projected debut coincides perfectly with the end of Posada’s contract.

    If Montero works out, then Romine could be used as trade bait. For now, the Yankees should try and keep both of them because good young catchers are hard to find, and the Yankees need to have a good catcher, it’s part of their tradition.

  747. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Paul from Cali July 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Sorry NYY626, but they only score on errors because according to the Twins broadcasters it’s not possible to get an earned run off Baker.
    ______________________________________________________________
    Thanks for clarifying Paul. I knew there was some sort of logical explanation.

  748. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Baker’s pitch count is 57 for two innings,can you say JOBA

  749. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Did anyone see Manny just flip his bat and helmet after k’ing?

  750. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Wave,

    The Yankees can simply choose to make a verbal deal with Doc that they will do a new deal with him to take effect in 2011 prior to or during, the 2010 season.

    They can just work off the existing deal and be committed to 22 million over the next 18 months.

    Wouldn’t be the first time they did something like that.

    If they want him, they have the parts to get him and pay him.

    Obviously, we don’t know if they want him.

    If they do, they can work out a deal that works for everybody.

  751. Eights July 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    “It always amazes me how much quieter this blog is when the Yanks are winning!”- Erica

    What do you suppose we say when we are winning?

    “Oh, the Yankees are doing so well. They are just doing everything so perfect.”

    When they are doing bad, it is easier to point out what they are doing wrong. When you are winning, it’s not as easy to point out what is going wrong. When things aren’t going perfectly there is debate about how to fix it, discussion about why it’s not working. When you’re winning, you can only post so much. Not many people are going to post “we’re doing so good” “good job Derek!” “great HR” over and over all game. So naturally, when the team isn’t on fire, more posts will be made.

    Also, this thread has nearly 800 posts and it’s only the 3rd inning. The game threads usually make between 1000-1500 posts, this game thread will as well. So, really, how much quiet is it?

  752. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    It’s amazing how often Halladay’s name is misspelled – people get him confused with Holliday, lol.

    I admit that I drool at the thought of Doc in pinstripes, but the price is just too high. If the Yankees choose not to give up Hughes or Joba, I don’t think you can blame them even if you disagree. I don’t even know how much influence AJ would have on Doc – they are not the same types of people. Perhaps Doc wouldn’t enjoy NY – he seems like a quiet guy. From his reaction, he probably wouldn’t enjoy the stadium, lol.

    Love Cervelli – he needs to go back to AAA and play everyday. I like Molina – I’m in no way regretting his return.

  753. Eights July 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Scratch that…It’s only the SECOND inning.

  754. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    D’oh!

  755. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    “Not sure if I’ve ever seen Alex have such a bad swing, especially with 2 strikes…..He must have been thinking off speed….”

    That’s the problem with Arod…he thinks way too much.

  756. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Oh, and he got tossed from the game for doing so.

  757. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Doreen-

    All I know is that I currently have 5 Mets fan friends on facebook who currently all have status updates saying how depressed they are.

  758. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    the good news – it was a solo job.

  759. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    the good news – it was a solo job.

    Pettitte and Joba should take notes.

  760. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    But not before driving in 3 runs so far tonight. :(

  761. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    TB beating TOR 1-0. That team always looks like the defending champs when they play at home. Good thing they can’t win on the road.

  762. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Eights-

    The bulk of the earlier posts are GMs proposing Halladay trades. It also may be the 3rd inning, but the game started an hour later which left more time for chatter

    Personally, I enjoy pointing out what’s right with the Yankees a lot more than hearing what’s wrong. But that’s just me. I am an optimist

  763. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Bahaha just throw Young non-stop change-ups

  764. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Wooo CC! That change is nasty

  765. Uncle Ellsworth July 7th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Doreen
    July 7th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
    Oh, and he got tossed from the game for doing so.

    Doreen please elaborate.

  766. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Bret,

    Jesus Montero isn’t the Yankees Hanley Ramirez in a Halladay deal. Hughes or Chamberlain is because the Jays can slot one of those guys right in the rotation and have something of substance to sell their fan base for dealing Doc.

    You don’t trade 19 year old light tower power catchers when you have other assets you can use to make that deal.

    If JP, who doesn’t have a lot of leverage here, says, “Montero or no deal”, you say, “no deal”.

  767. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Let’s get a few more runs now

  768. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    “the good news – it was a solo job.”

    Exactly. Mauer and Morneau must have hit about 4 or 5 homeruns in the series at Yankee Stadium. Except all of them were solos and didn’t hurt the Yankees.

  769. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    that homerun off cc was just him not wanting to fall behind 3-0 with a 3-0 lead..but he did miss his location…

  770. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    CC is 27 pitches lower than Baker for the same amount of innings,great.

  771. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Erica -

    We always flip over to the Mets a few times during the night. My father-in-law was a huge Mets fan and so, and so there’s a connection. They should be depressed. Tonight, I have yet to see the Mets at bat when I do flip over. It can’t be any kind of fun to watch them at all.

  772. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    I find myself conflicted. I sometimes get angry with Michael Kay, yet I feel like something is missing from the game when he isn’t in the booth.

  773. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Swishy!

  774. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Swish is getting agressive early in the count. I like that.

  775. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Betsy: the price is too high? We don’t even know what the price is… or if there is a price. It’s just speculation right now. All is well!

  776. Eights July 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Erica,

    Understandable. I just wanted to show why threads get more posts when the Yanks are losing. I find it a lot easier to get in a discussion about how to change/fix things, rather than agreeing with someone over and over again.

    When you’re winning, debate isn’t as prevalent, and debate is what makes the blog’s activity skyrocket. Simple posts like “nice hit, Jeter” and “big HR there” don’t bring about as much discussion, so naturally days when we’re winning are going to be more quiet than days we’re losing.

    It’s not that people aren’t paying attention, or posting on the blog, it’s just that there isn’t as much to talk about.

  777. bob July 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    There is no “good news” about CC giving up that HR. Thanks to Arod, the Yanks haven’t blown the game open and it’s still close.

  778. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Uncle E -

    Manny was 2 for 4 with 3 RBI on the night and struck out twice. On the 2nd K, he tossed his bat up and over umpire and then tossed his helmet adn then the umpire tossed him.

    Ron Darling speculated that Manny’s only been taking 4 at-bats a night, and may have known he wasn’t coming back anyway. He also said Manny had the opportunity to play in 10 minor league games adn chose to play in only 5 of them. Still Manny being Manny? I guess so. But, hey, the guy’s a good teammate and just loves the game and wants to have fun playing it. :)

  779. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Are you kidding me? Alex got thrown out of the game? Wow – that’s dumb. Well, now he’s got another day off………….Doreen, I have no problem with the Yankees giving him a day off even though he was on a roll. It’s too easy to keep him in there when he’s hot, but he’s hot because he got those days off. This is just how it’s going to have to be……

  780. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Target Field?

    That reminds me, go to target tomorrow

  781. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Erica – always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    I find myself conflicted. I sometimes get angry with Michael Kay, yet I feel like something is missing from the game when he isn’t in the booth.
    _______________________________________________________________
    its a lose-lose situation?

  782. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Doreen,

    The current state of the Mets is a great example of why you need a strong farm system. They were obviously not prepared for the injuries they are dealing with. When it came time to call guys up, its a giant disaster.

    Their accuscore chances of making the playoffs plummets from 25.1% to 8.9 last week. Ouch

  783. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Betsy – MANNY got thrown out of the game :)

  784. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Betsy-

    Calm down. It was Manny that got tossed for throwing his helmet after a K

  785. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Bob, do you think CC is going to throw shutouts the rest of the game? If that’s all he gives up, he’ll be ok. He’s an ace and he has the lead – there’s no excuse if he gives it up.

  786. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Target Field looks really nice. Saw some photos on the internet.

  787. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Calm down? I’m perfectly calm………

    and I meant season, not games.

  788. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Alex wasn’t thrown out of the game.
    Manny was in the Dodgers/Mets game

  789. Eights July 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    I enjoy listening to Michael Kay.

    I may not always agree with him, but I like what he brings to the table. He’s got a nice personality, albeit he’s too much of a nice guy and gets ripped on by Cone a lot.

    I just enjoy listening to him. (in a non gay way, ;))

  790. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Swisher is such a dope. I guarantee Girardi wants him to run here. Cano rarely strikes out but he hits the ball on the ground a lot and GIDP’s quite often. There is no reason for him to not be running here

  791. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Eights-

    Gotcha. :-)

  792. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Damn. Cano is pretty unlucky.

  793. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Cano should’ve let that go.

  794. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Hey Nick, I’m not fretting because I honestly don’t think the Yanks are going to get Doc. Of course we don’t know what the price is, but it’s going to be brutal……assuming Ricciardi is semi-competent, which Bill Smith is not

  795. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    ” I sometimes get angry with Michael Kay, yet I feel like something is missing from the game when he isn’t in the booth.”

    Look on the bright side – there is more head room.

  796. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Paul O’Neill is definitely my favorite broadcaster.

    Michael Kay may be infuriating sometimes but he seems livlier than Ken Singleton. I find it dull when he is not around

  797. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Baker only has one inning left. He’s closing in on 80 pitches.

  798. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Betsy -

    Oh, I have no problem with it, either. It’s just kind of an interesting predicament to be in. There’s no way I’d want them to take a chance of playing him too much.

  799. Pat M. July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Just think of other trades that are comparable…..Clemens, Schilling come to mind right away….Toronto is under economic pressure…..The price in return players will be lower than what we think because Vernon Wells will be part of the package……It’s about dumping big dollars for the Blue Jays…..Hughes or Joba will be in the equation I would suspect…..At what price do The Yankee Front Office view World Series titles to be worth…..

  800. Uncle Ellsworth July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Thanks Doreen

    Model Citizen

  801. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Thanks for the info about Manny – well, I guess we know it’s not roid rage

  802. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Thanks to Arod they haven’t blown the game open? LOL

    That’s pretty funny.

    Its always Arod’s fault isn’t? Even when it isn’t.

  803. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Knowing our luck, we will trade for Holladay and get him. The thing is though, he will be on the list lol

  804. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Betsy-

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he moved on to the less detectable kinds to help with his erectile problems

  805. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    No question, Doreen – it’s just not an ideal situation. I guess we should be grateful he can play at all.

  806. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    75 3 innings pitches this was the shortest 18 pitches,Joba has a twin it seems.

  807. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Since Mike Lowell is back on the DL, the Yankee brass is probably following the Sox blueprint very carefully. I am sure they will try to be a lot more careful with A-Rod’s surgically repaired hip after seeing Lowell sputter

  808. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    please dont walk the 9th batter punto

  809. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Betsy -

    I just re-read your post and saw where you thought we were talking about Alex getting tossed. No, no, Manny R. in the Dodger/Mets game. :) I’ve never seen Alex pull a Manny. Manny was called out on strikes – Alex swung and missed – no real argument there. :lol:

  810. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Toronto ties itup

  811. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    thanks cc ;)

  812. pat July 7th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    If everyone tries to spell Halladay’s name right, it might convince him to come to NY. :wink:

  813. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Blue Jays tie the Rays in the 8th inning.

    And how many times have our pitchers walked the #9 hitter?

  814. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    walking the 9 hitter with 0 homeruns on 4 pitches…joba is that you?…jk i love both joba and CC

  815. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Pat M,

    You are hittin’ on the major points. Economics and the package the Yankees can put on the table.

    Couple that with a no trade clause and the price, while high, won’t be insane, if you know what I mean.

    I was a partner in a minor league franchise when Doc was in the minors. He reminded me of Clemens in the way he worked.

    The guy’s work ethic was incredible.

    Very nice guy, quiet and intense.

    Could he play in NY? Without a doubt. NY wouldn’t bother him at all.

  816. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Squeezed

  817. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Betsy: you’re probably right, the odds have to be stacked against Halladay ending up here. But when the GM of the team says publically that the best pitcher in the league might be availble, it’s pretty natural that folks on a baseball blog for one of the few team that might get him would want to speculate about it. That’s kind of what this blog is meant for.

  818. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Erica – I can’t wrap my head around that. It’s just way TMI….

  819. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Pat M – Vince Gennaro, author of the book “Diamond Dollars” and mentioned by Pete now and then, is a financial wizard in this area. I believe he is a consultant to the Cleveland Indians. He is a professor of sports management in NYC, I think Manhattan College. If I were the Yankees, I would be crunching these numbers with the help of Gennaro, or someone very similar, to see just what is the financial gain of bringing in Halladay, vis a vis dollars from playoff games, WS, increased TV and merchandising, selling more luxury suites, vs. what is paid out in salary, and compare that to keeping Joba or Phil.

    It’s a complex series of calculations, I’m sure, but well worth doing the math.

  820. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! July 7th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Halladay hearsay…

    Murmurs in the Metrodome…

    Fodder for haiku…

  821. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    HALLADAY sorry :( great inning cc

  822. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    good job CC…39 pitches

  823. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    and it works out in CC’s and the Yanks favor

  824. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    38 pitches for CC

  825. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    LOL Sorry Betsy.

    I still think its hilarious that Manny would rather tell the world he was taking hormones for “man problems” than just fess up to doing PEDs

  826. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    CC’s taking care of business

  827. Uncle Ellsworth July 7th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Nice Haiku!

  828. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    CC Pitched a 9 pitch inning,yes!

  829. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Phil Hughes or Joba
    which prospect do you unhug
    for Doc Halladay?

  830. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    I would take on Wells’ contract to avoid giving up Phil or Joba……..Remember also that, during the Santana talks, Hank was front and center (though Hal played a big part, he was the quiet man). Hank is more like his dad in that he just wants the big players without caring who he gives up (not that I think he knew who any of the players being discussed were. The only thing he knew about Joba was how well he did in the pen in 2007 – doubt he knew anything about him as a starter in the minors). Well, Hal is in charge now. I think he certainly wants to win, but I also think he really loves the idea of building a core of young studs. I would not be so quick to assume he’s going to want to give up either Phil or Joba.

  831. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    GJ Cervelli

  832. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    good job cervelli

  833. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    I love how people on this blog like to beat things to death. No one in their right mind believes that TOR is trading Halladay to us, yet everyone wants to talk about it for hours on end.

  834. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    haiku-man
    July 7th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
    CC Pitched a 9 pitch inning,yes!
    ***
    Even more amazing considering that inning contained a 4 pitch walk

  835. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    good job angel eyes

  836. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    The Halladay buzz is understandable.

    To put it in context:

    Just think what other baseball blogs around the country would be saying if it was rumored Cashman was ready to move Kei Igawa.

  837. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Erica, I agree, but then Manny also had no problem going to the bathroom in the Green Monster. I think he’s pretty much “out there”, lol and marches to the beat of his own drummer

  838. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    I’m going to start a rumor saying that BOS is looking to move Beckett. One ridiculous rumor deserves another.

  839. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Joe,

    That’s a great idea. Pete should get a quote from Vince, one of the all-time nice guys, on this issue.

    Would make for interesting reading.

    Pat M,

    The nephew is hitting .353 with 5 RBI in 5 games in Full Season A Ball so far. 4-5 in throwing out baserunners.

    Sitting out tonight but so far, the early reviews from the Pirates people have been real positive.

  840. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Oh, I have no doubt Doc would thrive in NY performance-wise – it’s just a matter if he would enjoy it.

  841. A-rod will never get it July 7th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    can we blow this freaking game open please.

  842. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    They are looking to trade Beckett to the Pirates for all of their prospects

  843. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Montero with the hat-trick tonight; 3 K’s.

  844. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Just think what other baseball blogs around the country would be saying if it was rumored Cashman was ready to move Kei Igawa.

    ==============================

    The buzz would be epic..EPIC!

  845. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Nick, I’m not trying to prevent anyone from speculating. For me, it’s just much different than the Santana situation. I’m just not convinced he’s coming here and I really don’t think the Yankees are going to be willing to pay what I think Toronto is going to ask for.

  846. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    wow this is something else

  847. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    And that should do it for Mr. Baker

  848. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    wooo Go Tex

  849. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Laura: it seems unlikely, just like the idea that they would ever trade David Cone or Roger Clemens to us. Who knows?

  850. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    seems like as soon as the montero buzz reached a fever pitch here on the blog montero has gone into a tailspin…cant be unexpected though…dude is still a beast

  851. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Baker is doing a wonderful job tonight, especially this inning.

  852. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Laura,

    You mean how Toronto wouldn’t trade Cone and Clemens to the Yankees? There is precdent.

    Betsy,

    I’m 100% certain there is no way the Yankees can get Doc without surrendering either Joba or Phil.

    If Brian Cashman could do that, he would be Houdini and not a baseball GM. lol

  853. A-rod will never get it July 7th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    i must say :

    the sny announcers are a lot better then the yes announcers. hands down.

    I even like how they have a sideline reported during the game. Evan roberts is a good dude, kinda funny and knows his baseball.

  854. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    This Halladay thing reminds me of a few weeks ago, when someone joked that they should trade for Jeff Francoeur. And then for the next 3 days it was constant Francoeur stats and trade deals

  855. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    “Laura: it seems unlikely, just like the idea that they would ever trade David Cone or Roger Clemens to us. Who knows?”

    Anything is possible, but this seems EXTREMELY unlikely to me. I mean, think about it. People actually believe that TOR is going to trade their best pitcher to a division rival. I guess PHI is thinking about sending Hamels to the Mets too huh? :P

  856. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Too bad this wasn’t an AJ start – we could have had
    Baker versus the Pie Man.

  857. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Boooo this man!

  858. Benny Blanco July 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    HOLY POP-OUT BATMAN!!

  859. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    SJ, I agree…..not saying that was realistic. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out.

    How much influence do you think AJ would have on Doc? Even if it’s a lot, it doesn’t mean it will be enough for Doc to force his hand to the Yankees. We saw with Santana that, despite the rumors that he wanted to play for the Yankees, he had no problem accepting a trade to the Mets. In any case, I admit that it would be neat to see AJ and Doc together…..

  860. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    OMG!!! what a catch!!!

  861. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    wow what a play

  862. Eights July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    What a catch.

    That’ll be on SportsCenter.

  863. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Holy *&^%$#!

  864. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    wow nice play. DAMN TWINS

  865. Benny Blanco July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    WHAT A CATCH!!!!!!!!

  866. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    That was a granny, but he was robbed.

    All I care about is that the run scored.

  867. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Robbed of A GS. Darn!

  868. Pat M. July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    SJ, Tony will be in Pittsburg by September 2011….He’ll be tested with offspeed pitches as he moves up the food chain….

  869. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Gomez just completely robbed A-Rod of a grand slam.

    Gomez is off my holiday card list now!!

  870. Maria July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. Only to Alex.

  871. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    I saw that coming. He had lined up all the way.

  872. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    wow

  873. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    That is some low wall out there.

  874. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Laura, your comments suggest that you are unaware that the GM of the Blue Jays commented today about the possibility of trading Roy Halladay. Beckett/Hamels comparisons are misplaced.

  875. daver July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    what’s up with those awful Saran Wrap outfield walls?

  876. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Nice catch Gomez.

  877. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Amazing. Waiting for someone to blame Arod for not being “clutch”! lol

  878. Benny Blanco July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Cant wait to hear sterling.

  879. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    That was a great play by that Met scrub. Stole 3 runs from the yankees

  880. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Stupid nice catch :evil:

  881. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    If he was still on roids he would have hit it a little further! JK :)

  882. Maria July 7th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    What a catch. That wall is low but Gomez had it tracked the whole way it’s like I saw it coming but was hoping it wouldn’t happen. Alex was robbed.

  883. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Well, on the positive side, Alex killed the ball and they did score a run. What can you do?

  884. Jimbob July 7th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Great catch there in center by Gomez. Wow. Hey Pete – Min has a run. It’s 4-1, not 4-0.

  885. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Meanwhile, that would have been a grand-slam if we had traded for Santana! :mad:

    But we might be losing anyway. :)

  886. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Ok lets try that grand slam again

  887. rconn23 July 7th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    There’s precedent for trading in the division – it’s just not at all common.

    As Pete said, no one has more incentive to get Halladay than the Phiilies. They need him more than anyone else and have the prospects to make the deal.

    A duo of Hamels and Halladay would gift wrap the division for them, and make them the favorite to make the World Series.

  888. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Can Nick work a count here for a change with the bases loaded?

  889. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    “Laura, your comments suggest that you are unaware that the GM of the Blue Jays commented today about the possibility of trading Roy Halladay. Beckett/Hamels comparisons are misplaced.”

    No, Nick – I heard it. It is entirely possible that Doc will be traded. I just don’t buy that Riccardi would trade him to us. In my mind, no GM in their right mind would trade their number 1 pitcher (particularly a pitcher as good as RH) to their chief rival. I could be wrong. We’ll see.

  890. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Sterling probably called it a HR. And then said ‘oh did he catch that ball? he caught it. I thought that was gone. Suzyn…’

  891. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    “UPDATE, 9:35 p.m.: Wow, fantastic catch by Carlos Gomez as he robs A-Rod of a grand slam in dead center. Perfect leap, exactly times. Four runs becomes one. Yankees 4-0.”

    Pete – you keep forgetting to give Minny credit for their homer off CC. It’s 4-1.

  892. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Swish worked the count and got one of the runs that were stolen.

  893. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    RBI BB

    i’ll take it.

  894. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    SJ44
    July 7th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
    Can Nick work a count here for a change with the bases loaded?
    ***
    Is that worked enough for you :-)

  895. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    good job swish..even though you didnt have to do a thing beside not swing

  896. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Swisha!!!!

  897. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Ok, walk – nice. Oh boy, Cano…..

  898. Jerkface July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Pathetic. Nick Swisher walks. Not getting the job done with the bases loaded, passing the baton AGAIN.

  899. Uncle Ellsworth July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Trevor
    July 7th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
    Sterling probably called it a HR. And then said ‘oh did he catch that ball? he caught it. I thought that was gone. Suzyn…’

    He did a good job on that one but missed a few others -

  900. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    At least we managed to score 2 runs with the bases loaded/nobody out.

    Can Cano get a hit here?

  901. Benny Blanco July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    maybe cano will do something.

  902. Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Is Robbie due, or is he due?

  903. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    walking in a run can be fun :lol:

    Robbie next

  904. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    That’s Nick’s strength. Nice to see him go back to his strength.

  905. rconn23 July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    That’s right Nick, play to your strengths:)

  906. luis July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    inning over with cano as always

  907. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    I’ll say this – if Halladay was traded to us, that would end the “Joba to the bullpen” debate because that is exactly where he’d end up.

  908. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    “Susan can you watch the replay and tell me if he caught the ball”. says john sterling.

  909. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Well, thats a completely gross stat on Cano. YUCK

    0-21 with RISP and longest streak in the league. YUCK YUCK

  910. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Cano is so bad!

  911. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    How many RBI would Cano have if he hit .280 w/RISP? Probably around 50-55.

  912. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    LOL 0-2 already. The worst hitters do better with RISP than Cano. He needs a sports psychologist because it has to be mental at this point.

  913. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    walking in a run can be fun :lol:

    Robbie next
    _______________________________________________________________
    Mo knows best :)

  914. rconn23 July 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    “Pathetic. Nick Swisher walks. Not getting the job done with the bases loaded, passing the baton AGAIN.”

    You can’t be serious.

  915. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    At least Cano is having a good AB.

  916. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Yes, Laura, but neither Beckett nor Hamels are on the block, so I don’t know what you were talking about.

    “I’m going to start a rumor saying that BOS is looking to move Beckett. One ridiculous rumor deserves another.”

    Halladay getting traded is not a ridiculous rumor. And I don’t think anyway has suggested that the Yankees are involved in talks or anything like that. Just speculating about what it might take.

  917. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Robbie’s problem is that he tries to hit everything. And usually does. His talent is his worse enemy in these situations.

  918. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    I keep thinking all streaks come to an end sometime, right? Right? ;)

  919. Eights July 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Cano doing what he does best.

  920. Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont July 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    I’m convinced that Robbie is not going to get another hit with RISP this year.

  921. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Just terrible

  922. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    ca-no-no

  923. daver July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    surprise…cano choked with RISP

  924. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Robbie Cano, how did I know that was gonna happen

  925. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Its gotta be a mental thing for Cano now.

  926. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Not this time Doreen :cry:

  927. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    So apparently a hitter is supposed to try to hit pitches that are no where near the zone.

  928. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Alex Rodriguez…

    Gomez jumping, grand slam gypped…

    Yet Yanks score two more…

  929. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Better AB but still no results for Cano with RISP.

    That’s why he can’t see 5th in the order again. Just not that kind of hitter.

  930. Jerkface July 7th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    You can’t be serious.

    I am, of course, not. I love swisher. He has good ABs. I would love to go back and find posts by those cheering for that RBI BB when he got 3-2 in similiar situations but made an out. Everyone would kill him for being too patient.

  931. rconn23 July 7th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    And with Cano, you get the opposite end of the spectrum from Swisher. Hacking at pitches out of the zone again,
    refusing to take a walk.

    That’s not battling, that’s poor plate discipline.

    That’s why he’s a .300 hitter batting 7th in the order.

  932. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Not yet. I guess.

  933. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    “Yes, Laura, but neither Beckett nor Hamels are on the block, so I don’t know what you were talking about.”

    That’s not my point. Beckett and Hamels are the best pitchers on their teams. RH is the best pitcher for TOR. It wasn’t about whether they are on the trade market. My point was that BOS and PHI aren’t trading those guys to division rivals. I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear.

  934. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Laura,

    Or Joba could end up in the Blue Jays bullpen! lol

    Sorry, couldn’t resist.

  935. ADam July 7th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Cano has ZERO killer instinct. IMO. Ive been trying to figure him out for 4+ years. No Fire, No killer instinct.

  936. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Instead of getting on Cano’s case – blame all his dopey teammates for getting on base before he comes up.

    They know he has a problem. Do they try to help? – No.
    This is as bad as Jeter not dealing with Arod’s boos.

    Help a brotha out – stay off base.

  937. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    The Gypsy Anti-Defamation League will not like that last haiku.

  938. rconn23 July 7th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Jerkface,

    I’m a Swisher guy too. He can be maddening at times, but I’ll take his approach at the plate most days.

  939. Jack July 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    LOBinson Cano:(

  940. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    CC is my big homie true story!

  941. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Does anyone throw the ball to 3B after a strikeout faster than Cervelli does?

  942. stuart July 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    they are up 5 to 1 but let’s be real they should be up like 9 to 1 if they could get a big hit..

    cano is so clutch at this point it is beyond ridiculous.. look at his BA with the bases loaded, staggering bad…………

    even tonight with everything going well they cannot hit with RISP. it is a joke.

  943. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    so TV options limited here in the hotel and I’m stuck watching the Michael Jackson Memorial…that is some depressing stuff

  944. Jerkface July 7th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    they are up 5 to 1 but let’s be real they should be up like 9 to 1 if they could get a big hit..

    A-rod got one. But it was stolen!

  945. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    “Laura,

    Or Joba could end up in the Blue Jays bullpen! lol

    Sorry, couldn’t resist.”

    Good point!!! If I were TOR, I’d take Phil Hughes in the deal before Joba.

  946. pat July 7th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Full moon tonight so strange things can happen. Robbie is going to get a hit with RISP.

  947. KO July 7th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    If Cano is up with RISP, let’s just have everyone mark a groundout to either the 1st or 2nd basemen in their scorebooks and move along with the game

  948. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Great inning :)

  949. jvcelt July 7th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    a sample size of 22 is an anomaly, not a statement.

  950. Benny Blanco July 7th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    cc is a beast.

  951. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Laura: in this case, I think it just wasn’t a great point. I still like you.

    And I look still look forward to getting whatever it was we agreed you were going to send me once we see that Miles is still alive in season six. :)

  952. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    good inning for CC right there

  953. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    “so TV options limited here in the hotel and I’m stuck watching the Michael Jackson Memorial…that is some depressing stuff”

    I actually thought that it was better than I thought it would be. I thought it would be cheesy, but it actually turned out to be quite moving.

  954. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    OT but Dbacks deal Tony Pena to the WSox

  955. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    KO July 7th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    If Cano is up with RISP, let’s just have everyone mark a groundout to either the 1st or 2nd basemen in their scorebooks and move along with the game

    If Girardi was a good manager he would PH Hinske! Then put in Ransom who plays a good 2nd base imo

  956. vtyankeefan July 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Sabathia cruising
    Yanks hitting
    Good start to the road trip

  957. stuart July 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    arod did get a big hit, I am not complaining about him.

    The Cano defenders have to try really hard to defend him

    The guy hits 340 with no one on base and under 200 with RISP and that is pure happenstance, not him gagging….

  958. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    “And I look still look forward to getting whatever it was we agreed you were going to send me once we see that Miles is still alive in season six.”

    Wasn’t it Moose bars? If I win, which I know I will, I’d actually like a case of Reeses Peanut Butter cups. They are my Achilles Heel. I have the hips to prove it too. :P

  959. Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont July 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    50 pitches after 4 innings for CC. Might get a CG.

  960. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Cano’s about to break out, if only to follow the law of averages…

  961. stuart July 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    don’t pop the corks yet. minny battles for 27 outs….

  962. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Gardner has great bat speed, but his swing is atrocious.

  963. KO July 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Carl I agree with you if it was later on in the game. Sadly right now, I would much rather have Hinske up w/ RISP than Cano. However, I doubt Girardi would ever pinch hit for Cano.

  964. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    “Does anyone throw the ball to 3B after a strikeout faster than Cervelli does?”

    In a pregame earlier this season, tell said that to GI Joe and he said yes Frankie keeps our inf on thier toes :lol: , he nearly took Al’s head off at 3B a few games back.

  965. Mark-Cant Touch This July 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    I get home the yankees are winning CC is throwing great and people are still not happy on this blog AMAZING!

  966. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Stuart,

    You have to do what I do when Cano comes up with RISP.

    Assume an out and be surprised with a different outcome.

    It gets you through the games easier! lol

  967. A-rod will never get it July 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    i cant wait to see cisco in spring training next year.

  968. RS July 7th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Cervelli hit the ball hard 3 times today. Be prepared to wait for a month for Molina to do the same.

  969. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    “I get home the yankees are winning CC is throwing great and people are still not happy on this blog AMAZING!”

    Whose not happy? I’m happy. I’d be happier if Gomez hadn’t caught that ball, but other than that, I’ve got no complaints.

  970. Bo Knows July 7th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Are you people watching the game? Cano has had great at bats today, but people are so busy pounding the keyboard that they haven’t got time to look. Engage brain before mouth flapping.

  971. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    But Moose Bars are very similar to Reece’s Peanut Butter Cups, just in bar form with higher-quality chocolate.

  972. sumo71 July 7th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    is it me, or does the YES network love joe mauer?

  973. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    SJ, one day Robi will make you eat those words. :x

  974. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    “But Moose Bars are very similar to Reece’s Peanut Butter Cups, just in bar form with higher-quality chocolate.’

    I did not know this. OK, Moose bars it is.

  975. aluminum bat for damon July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Q: What’s the abbreviation for Robbie Cano?
    A: RBI NO

  976. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    “is it me, or does the YES network love joe mauer?”

    Jesus doesn’t care.

  977. KO July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Joe Mauer is baseball’s golden child u didn’t know that

  978. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Poor Robbie.

    In 22 ABs with RISP you would think he would accidentally get a hit. LOL

  979. Chris July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    If only Kevin Long could get Gardner to have a good level swing he might be a decent gap hitter and well suited for his speed.

  980. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    We are watching the game.

    He’s 0 for his last 21 with RISP. He’s hitting .196 for the season with RISP.

    He’s 2-13 with the bases loaded.

    Not exactly cause for celebration.

    Its a season long problem for him.

    That’s why he’s no longer the #5 hitter in the order.

    Good player, awful hitter with RISP.

    Just the way it is.

    Can’t expect people to ignore it.

  981. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    “Joe Mauer is baseball’s golden child u didn’t know that”

    I thought that was Derek Jeter

  982. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    “Are you people watching the game? Cano has had great at bats today, but people are so busy pounding the keyboard that they haven’t got time to look. Engage brain before mouth flapping.”

    Cano has had great at bats when no one is on board. His plate appearances with RISP are atrocious.

  983. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Why do the announcers always comment when fans of the opposing team sit with one another? Is this a rare occurrence?

  984. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    The need to teach Gardner a Mickey Rivers style tomahawk chop

  985. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Becket went 6.2 innings 107 pitches RS 5 A’s 2

  986. Scorpio July 7th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    oh no, Kenny & Coney talking abt how great Cervelli & CC have worked together this year, 9th time pairing up…where’s Trisha? lol.

  987. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    NYY626-

    I think they are hoping they would turn on each other in the stands

  988. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Brandon,

    I hope he does. Although I would like it to be soon enough so I can remember it since my memory fades in my old age. lol

  989. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    The fact that Robbie talks about it in interviews tells you that even he knows that it’s a problem. He is also leading the team in DPs, something that I’m sure comforts Derek Jeter. :P

  990. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Derek Jeter used to be baseball’s golden child but he’s too old now… I mean he’s like what 34 or 35 he’s practically ancient

  991. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    “Cano has had great at bats when no one is on board. His plate appearances with RISP are atrocious.”

    You realize RISP is his last step in becoming the most dangerous hitter in this division. His hit tonight put him in RISP so more times than not when he doesn’t hit w/ RISP he puts himself in scoring position.

  992. Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont July 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Yanks just announced Aceves starts Thursday

  993. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    And I don’t expect a whole case of Moose Bars. I found out that’s a LOT of Moose Bars when I bought two cases before Christmas. A packet of Moose Bars will be fine.

  994. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    The Mets should ask for Gomez back. They could use him now

  995. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    What a stupid trade for the twins

  996. YankeeJosh July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Would having Pena up here challenge Cano? Ramiro is a great glove who has shown to have a bit of a stick and plays the game the right way. Cody Ransom can’t challenge Cano that way, even if Cano has more talent than Pena.

  997. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Coney w/ a Vida Guerra reference. :lol:

  998. pat July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Robbie’s last AB was good. The results were just bad.

  999. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Erica-

    I agree. He’d be better than the garbage they are running out there.

  1000. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Nice play Alex

  1001. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    For all of Cano’s issues, he’s still on pace to knock in 90 runs this year.

  1002. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    that arm on a-rod beats a lot of speedsters

  1003. Bo Knows July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Cano 21 pitches in three at bats.

  1004. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    pat July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Robbie’s last AB was good. The results were just bad.

    Sorry I don’t agree with that.

  1005. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    >Robbie’s last AB was good. The results were just bad.

    can’t help a broken bat

  1006. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    5 straight balls to Punto…. ugh

  1007. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    GB7-

    I would be a lot more impressed with that if it wasn’t for the amount of time he spent in the 5 spot. Plus, you know, what my eyes actually see

  1008. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    “Would having Pena up here challenge Cano? Ramiro is a great glove who has shown to have a bit of a stick and plays the game the right way. Cody Ransom can’t challenge Cano that way, even if Cano has more talent than Pena.”

    El Nino’s bat is nowhere near challenging Robi territory. Nowhere. Hopefully more playing time in the minors gets him to be consistant w/ the XBHs and hopefully he becomes a solid switch hitter not just his left side.

  1009. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    “And I don’t expect a whole case of Moose Bars. I found out that’s a LOT of Moose Bars when I bought two cases before Christmas. A packet of Moose Bars will be fine.”

    Okie dokie.

  1010. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Nice job Carsten

  1011. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    good job CC

  1012. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    “Sorry I don’t agree with that.”

    You don’t have to but it’s true.

  1013. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    68 pitches for CC

  1014. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    On the road, the Yankee pitching staff looks awesome.

  1015. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
    GB7-

    I would be a lot more impressed with that if it wasn’t for the amount of time he spent in the 5 spot. Plus, you know, what my eyes actually see

    ————————————————————

    One third of Cano’e at bats have come in other slots than #5.

  1016. sumo71 July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Coney w/ a Vida Guerra reference. :lol:

    i love coney!!

  1017. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    lol @ this subway commercial

  1018. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    CC and Johan subway commercial!!!

  1019. YankeeJosh July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Brandon,

    No one is saying Pena can hit with Cano. He’s a different type of player. But the idea of having another option to play as opposed to Ransom might at least give the Yanks an option and get Cano thinking. Cano is obviously the far better talent.

  1020. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    “For all of Cano’s issues, he’s still on pace to knock in 90 runs this year.”

    Imagine what his total would be if he actually hit consistently in that situation. He’d be a 120+ RBI guy. From 2B, that would be awesome!

  1021. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Brandon,

    Look at the hitters in the AL East.

    I think its safe to say that Robbie Cano will never be the most dangerous hitter in the division.

    At this point, be happy if he hits .250 w.RISP, continues to play good D, and hits with nobody on base.

    He has virtually no shot at being the most dangerous hitter in division given the talent that’s in the AL East.

  1022. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Why I never saw that commercial before.

  1023. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    I don’t expect any changes to the NYS until the old one is knowcked down. But I would not be surprised if those fences mysteriously move backwards around the start of the 2011 or 2012 seasons

  1024. sumo71 July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Coney w/ a Vida Guerra reference. :lol:

    also, singelton with a sam jackson refrence

  1025. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    UPDATE, 10:02 p.m.: Jose Molina was 0 for 1 for Trenton with a walk and a HBP. He caught seven innings and apparently was fine. I would think he’ll be here tomorrow or the next day.

  1026. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Maybe CC was smacked by not making the All Star Game,he’s 68 pitches thru 5 innings.

  1027. RS July 7th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    What kind of strike is that?

  1028. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    If Cano were just having a bad season hitting with RISP I would just write it off as bad luck, a series of random occurrences that didn’t work out well.

    Usually, poor hitting with RISP is just bad luck and not worth getting worked up about.

    The weird thing with Cano is, with the exception of 2007, he just hits worse with men on than with the bases empty. At this point, the pattern is just too obvious to ignore.

    Career basis, season basis, he hits better with the bases empty. Who knows why? Maybe he picks up the ball better from the wind-up than the stretch, I don’t know.

    At this point, I wouldn’t fight it. Bat him leadoff, maximize his production.

  1029. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    How often is the letter high strike called?

  1030. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Someone record the subway commercial and put it on youtube!

  1031. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    “No one is saying Pena can hit with Cano. He’s a different type of player. But the idea of having another option to play as opposed to Ransom might at least give the Yanks an option and get Cano thinking. Cano is obviously the far better talent.”

    WTH are we talking about Ransom for ?

    El Nino “supposively” is learning to play the OF and getting more ABs so he can help us come August or Sept. that’s why he’s down there.

  1032. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    “Career basis, season basis, he hits better with the bases empty. Who knows why? Maybe he picks up the ball better from the wind-up than the stretch, I don’t know.”

    He probably is pitched to differently as well with men on.

  1033. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Robbie Cano has to be the most complained about player in the history of MLB who is on pace for 95 rbis and 200 hits plus plays great defense.

    Please let up on Cano.

  1034. Bo Knows July 7th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Cano today has changed his whole approach at the plate. Obviously recognizing the problem and trying to adjust. Anyone want to cut him some slack seeing as he’s a Yankee and all. Swisher the walking RBI machine who’s as bad as Cano is used as an example, it is to weep.

  1035. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    al’s OBP is wonderful

  1036. RS July 7th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    “On the road, the Yankee pitching staff looks awesome.”

    Yup, and if you take away the games at Fenway it looks even better.

  1037. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Laura – And the Oscar goes to….Optimus Prime!!
    July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
    “For all of Cano’s issues, he’s still on pace to knock in 90 runs this year.”

    Imagine what his total would be if he actually hit consistently in that situation. He’d be a 120+ RBI guy. From 2B, that would be awesome!

    ————————————————————

    That could be said about a lot of hitters. Until the last 5 days, Matsui was hitting .200 with RISP. Even with this short run, it’s .237.

  1038. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    gomez is starting to get on my last nerve :evil:

  1039. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Yes, Gomez is definitely off my holiday card list now

  1040. pat July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    They are flirting with that 408 baggie. :sad:

  1041. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    lol @ CF

  1042. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Dear Yankee hitters,

    Please stop hitting the ball to Gomez in CF.

    Thanks.

    Signed,
    Yankee fans everywhere

  1043. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Oh wait….

    Cano is also on pace to score 100 runs, have 40 doubles, 25 hrs.

    As a great defensive 2nd baseman.

  1044. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    This sucks. Should be 10-1

  1045. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Like against the Jays yesterday, they’re just being robbed of hits.

  1046. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    11-1 I mean

  1047. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Srsly that scrubby Mets CF is pissing me off, I want a HR to CF :x

  1048. Frank July 7th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    The Twins announcers are morons.

    They are harping and harping about how this year’s all star game is “clean” because A-Rod and Manny are not included. Do they realized Ryan Franklin tested positive for PEDs

  1049. pat July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    “al’s OBP is wonderful”

    Especially when you factor in what his BA is.

  1050. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Get over the Mendoza Line in those situations and then we will talk.

    The guys career numbers with RISP and guys on base are awful.

    Its one of those unexplainable situations.

    However, ignoring the 2,000 lb gorilla in the room doesn’t change the results.

  1051. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Come on Cano!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1052. Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    pitching around Swish to get to Cano?

  1053. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Okay, no one say anything about Cano.

  1054. Josh from NC July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    come on robbie, you need a hit with runners in scoring position

  1055. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Poor Cano.

  1056. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Swisher passes the buck… again! ;)

  1057. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Can-do!!
    Can-do!!

  1058. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    I’m not in any way saying that Cano’s not having a problem, he does, but, he’s driving runs in from somewhere. He doesn’t have 43 solo homers.

  1059. daver July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    bases loaded for cano again!

    Cano will:

    a.) Pop out
    b.) Ground out
    c.) Strike out
    d.) Actually get a hit!

  1060. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Cano cannot escape RISP, so he better get acclimated.

  1061. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Can’t make this stuff up! Cano up with the bases loaded again! lol

  1062. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Frank July 7th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    The Twins announcers are morons.

    They are harping and harping about how this year’s all star game is “clean” because A-Rod and Manny are not included. Do they realized Ryan Franklin tested positive for PEDs

    Owned

  1063. DT - OPPC member (it's in our blood) July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    If Minnesota had any heart at all – they’d walk Cano intentionally.

  1064. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Think positive thoughts!!!

  1065. pat July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    “They are harping and harping about how this year’s all star game is “clean” because A-Rod and Manny are not included.”

    Tejada’s going. Does he not count?

  1066. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1067. RS July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Finally!!

  1068. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    HALLELUJAH !!!

  1069. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    OMG CANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  1070. daver July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    The answer is:

    d.) Actually get a hit!

  1071. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Cano!!!

  1072. Trevor July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    I don’t believe what I just saw. :shock:

  1073. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    There we go!

    That’s what I’m talking about, baby!!

    Still broke his bat.

  1074. NYY626 July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    haha he is mocking himself! good sport cano

  1075. Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    nice!

  1076. Zooboy July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    A herd of pigs just fly by my window!

  1077. joe. July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    finally cano.

  1078. Eights July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Well, I can die now.

    I’ve seen everything.

  1079. Jerkface July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Cano is a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1080. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Our long international nightmare is over! :)

  1081. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    That bat died for a good cause!

    Robbie needs to give that bat a proper sendoff. It did its job! lol

  1082. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    That’s what happens when you think positively.

  1083. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Laura-

    It was totally my “Can-do” that did the trick!

  1084. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    I don’t believe what I just saw!

    Look at that line drive! :)

  1085. pat July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Full moon!

    Babies are born and Robbie hits with RISP!

  1086. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Robbie :shock:

    :lol:

  1087. aluminum bat for damon July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    oh boy here comes RBI NO. 7 LOB perhaps?

  1088. Joe July 7th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    fail

  1089. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Zooboy July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    A herd of pigs just fly by my window!
    ***

    Herd of pigs? I think it should be pog of pigs. :-)

  1090. Oh man. July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    I am so happy for him. I think I actually jumped up in the air like it was a walk-off. Good job, Cano.

  1091. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    I take that back, it can also be called a herd.

  1092. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    WEll hopefully that hit will lead to more for Cano in those types of situations. I mean i’m not going to hold my breath, but good hit for him and the Yanks. Good for him to get a little weight off his shoulders maybe.

  1093. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Knuckleballer, R.A. Dickey, takes the mound.

  1094. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Finally! I’m happy for Cano – even though he lost a bat, lol. Maybe this will get him going……..

  1095. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Yay – Robi!!!!

    I was one off. Streak done, new one begun! He looked so happy!

    Monkey’s off his back.

  1096. Donnie - Will Meet Justin Kubel Under the O'Neill Banner July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    I think the temperature just dropped a few degrees in here. Is anyone else feeling it? I’m not sure, but I think Hell might have frozen over.

    Good job, Robbie.

  1097. vtyankeefan July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    What do ya know,Cano knocks in two

  1098. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    “Tejada’s going. Does he not count?”

    He got Roy Oswalt’s blessing.

  1099. stuart July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    hallelujah there is a g-d. cano got a hit with RISP.

    miracles occur all the time.

  1100. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Zooboy
    July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
    A herd of pigs just fly by my window!

    ————————————————————

    Hopefully, one of them dropped by his copy of proper grammar for you to study.

  1101. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hzI_aBATO8

    Chris russo on RA Dickey

  1102. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    “They are harping and harping about how this year’s all star game is “clean” because A-Rod and Manny are not included.”

    I heard that. Those guys are major tools. He was claiming that Manny and Alex being there would be a distraction. It’s the frakin’ ASG! It’s an exhibition game, which unfortunately is tied to the World Series. Other than that, nobody takes it seriously. You think the fans would be upset if those guys were there?

  1103. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    BG!!!

  1104. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Gardenhoser beats GOMEZ !

  1105. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Cano connecting…

    Gardenhire gesturing…

    Piling on the runs!

  1106. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    GGBG!!!!!

    Finally triumph over Gomez!

  1107. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    That’s gonna be a triple.

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Gardner and his atrocious swing did his thing.

  1108. daver July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    GGBG hit it off the Saran Wrap for a triple!

  1109. Pat M. July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    SJ, I just noticed that part of my post was deleted or lost….Tony has already posted some insane numbers…Is he staying in the Sally League or is there a chance he gets bumped up later in the season ?????

  1110. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Gardner has some POP at times, nice. He can get so many triples if he gets it in the gap.

  1111. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Finally, Gomez can’t get to one. Serves him right.

  1112. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Okay – that’s what we’ve been waiting for, right? More hits with RISP.

  1113. joe. July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    man gardner can fly

  1114. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    I can’t believe Gomez didn’t catch that. Not that he SHOULD have – just that he didn’t for once.

  1115. RS July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    It’s pretty funny how, after Cano kept finding himself in bases loaded situtations batting 5th, Girardi moved him down to 7th to presumably take the pressure off him. And what do you know, he finds himself up with the bases loaded again twice tonight.

  1116. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Wow

  1117. djsunyc July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    dang, it stinks that we have to send down cervelli…

  1118. sumo71 July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    how can you complain about the last few weeks?

    and this team is likable!!!

    it could be great summer

  1119. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Cervelli with the shovel!!!!!!!!!

  1120. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Cervelli!

  1121. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Cervelli is going out with a BANG!

  1122. Eights July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Cervelli on fire…shame he’s going down.

  1123. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Cisco we’re going to miss you and your samurai swing :(

  1124. pat July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Okay, there’s the 10-1 game someone was asking for earlier.

  1125. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    “Cervie” doesn’t want to leave, does he?? :lol:

  1126. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Take your time Molina, Cervelli is doing fine.

  1127. vtyankeefan July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Sox just won 5-2, it looks like the Yanks are still one back.

  1128. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Cervelli with parting gifts. Ain’t that sweet?

  1129. jennifer July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Okay question. CC is in very good shape pc wise. But we have a huge lead. How long do you keep him in the game? Especially knowing you will need the pen tomorrow, maybe as early as the 4th 5th inning.

  1130. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    angel eyes! :)

  1131. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    RS, it’s kind of like when the ball always finds u in the field if you’re making a lot of errors and you don’t want it hit to you. When you’re struggling in a certain type of situation, you tend to always find yourself right there again.

  1132. daver July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Nice hit Cervelli! Can’t wait to see Molina hit like that ;-(

  1133. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    who was asking for the “killer” string of hits?

  1134. Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Cisco Kid!! keep him with the team…..Are you sure you’re OK, Jose?

  1135. RS July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Ok, it really would be unfair to send Cervelli down after today. It might take Molina a month to give the same production Cervelli has given tonight.

  1136. ray (sox fan) July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Sox/Oakland game is over. Sox win 5-2.

    It doesn’t look like there will be any changes tonight in the standings between the Sox and the Yankees.

    Interesting article by Ken Rosenthal that says once Toronto starts the discussion of trading Doc that it will almost certainly happen.

  1137. A-rod will never get it July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Molina, needs to rehab some more.

    Sorry to say but i hope he breaks a leg..

    I love this kid.

    He brings energy, defense and hard hit balls.

    Keep him in the lineup

  1138. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    We’re 7 for 14 with RISP. Not bad. Getting the job done half of the time.

  1139. Benny Blanco July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Cervelli does not want to go back

  1140. djsunyc July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    cervelli has such a sound level swing. still to early to see where the holes are in his swing – and scouts will find it, but his swing is condusive to making contact and putting the ball in play.

  1141. stuart July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    a blow out thank g-d. save the pen, maybe rest arod in the 7th, they are good on occassion..

  1142. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Keep CC in as long as the pitch count is reasonable and he keeps pitching well.

    Save the bullpen for tomorrow

  1143. A-rod will never get it July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    i think we can take out a-rod, give him some more needed rest.

  1144. OKI/DAVE July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Who’s Molina? Past history

  1145. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Can Molina stay on the DL?????? I love the guy but Cervelli is younger and better….

  1146. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Deja Vu Minnesota,Yankees in your house,hello!

  1147. RS July 7th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Can Girardi waste Tomko today, or will he be needed for long relief on Thursday?

  1148. Jerkface July 7th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Cervelli would be 3 for 3 with 2 HRs in NYS, clubbed 2 balls down the line around 330 feet

  1149. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Gotta get ARod out of this game now. Give him the rest of the night off.

    Pat M,

    I believe the plan is to stay in the SALLY the rest of the year.

    He has a shot of being in Altoona (AA) at this time next year at this growth rate.

    Hopefully, he keeps it up.

  1150. mike July 7th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Hitting with RISP (vs. hitting in general) is probably just about all luck. 21 AB samples is definitely all luck. Why do you all care about this?

  1151. Mo-Butter July 7th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    I would love for someone to explain to me why Cervelli is going to be replaced by Molina when he is doing so well… WHy fix something that isnt broken? I understand Molina is under contract for much more money, but is that reason enough??

  1152. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Matt…? :roll:

  1153. vtyankeefan July 7th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Is cerveli going down a done deal? The guy is playing like he belongs to be in the bigs

  1154. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    The Mets lost again. I’m starting to feel sorry for them, but only a little. :P

  1155. tim boat July 7th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    GGBG > Melky Cabrera

    Melk-dud is going nowhere but down the rest of this season, he always peaks in June before hitting a wall and going into a tail spin. He’ll be hitting .240 in a matter of weeks.

  1156. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    pat
    July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
    Okay, there’s the 10-1 game someone was asking for earlier.

    ————————————————————

    Only thing left to do now is to start slowly pulling away in the 7th inning.

  1157. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    I found myself consoling Mets fans at work today and telling them their team still might have a chance.

    I didn’t believe myself either

  1158. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Those in Minnesota leaving the game early, head to Manny’s downtown. One of the best steakhouses in the country.

    The night is still young!

  1159. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    “I understand Molina is under contract for much more money, but is that reason enough??”

    Molina makes 2mil I believe. Cervelli probably 400K. You don’t sit 2mil in favor of 400K unless you absolutely have to. Rich people don’t like paying guys to do nothing.

  1160. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    oh you tub of lard :evil:

  1161. YankeeJosh July 7th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Brandon,

    I’ll grant that it’s better for Pena to be in AAA and get playing time. But the Yankees are a better team right now if Pena is the back-up infielder as opposed to Ransom. And that might light a fire under Cano.

  1162. Kenny "Singy" July 7th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    “Can he beat Span to the bag??”

    Is that a rhetorical question?

  1163. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    CC was slow lol

  1164. Bo Knows July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Brandon

    What is this Gardenhoser thing? Once was funny, then got tired in a hury, now it’s just obnoxious. Is this reverse racism or are you just challenged.

  1165. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “Hitting with RISP (vs. hitting in general) is probably just about all luck. 21 AB samples is definitely all luck. Why do you all care about this?”

    Because hitting with RISP is how you win ballgames.

  1166. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    I am officially putting an Amber Alert for Matt.

    CNN will pick up the story soon.

    Hopefully, he is still alive!

  1167. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    So he gives baker that call but not CC?

  1168. Scorpio July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Why does everyone have to compare GGBG vs. Melky? Neither is a supreme CF yet both have their positive qualities. I like how Joe G has been mixing them both, it seems to be working. Both are contributing which is most important.

  1169. vtyankeefan July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    CC’s shows command and is ahead on the count…I hope Joba is taking notes

  1170. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    “GGBG > Melky Cabrera

    Melk-dud is going nowhere but down the rest of this season, he always peaks in June before hitting a wall and going into a tail spin. He’ll be hitting .240 in a matter of weeks.”

    i like gardy as much..prbly more..then the next guy but thats just not fair…melky has had a ton of big hits this year and is having a very solid year overall

  1171. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Montero is now in the longest slump of his career. 0-17 with 7 strikeouts.

  1172. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    I take out CC after 7. While it is tempting to save the pen, CC needs bullets for September and October.

    Agree with SJ about taking Alex out. Same reason.

  1173. Mo-Butter July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    “Molina makes 2mil I believe. Cervelli probably 400K. You don’t sit 2mil in favor of 400K unless you absolutely have to. Rich people don’t like paying guys to do nothing.”

    I agree that rich people hate wasting money, but wont winning more games and going further into October more than make up for the 2 mil lost??

  1174. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) July 7th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Span-dex beats Baggy Pants.

  1175. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Keep CC in. He has a low pitch count. You may need the bullpen a lot on Thursday

    Alex is a different story. Take him out to rest the hip when you can

  1176. Scorpio July 7th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Cervelli is being sent down to get regular playing time. He won’t get that up in the majors playing once/twice a week. It has nothing to do with Molina’s $2M.

  1177. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    “Montero is now in the longest slump of his career. 0-17 with 7 strikeouts.”

    didnt he have like a 1 for 4 with a double the other day?

  1178. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    good job CC.

  1179. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    CC continues…

    Tossing trouble to the Twins…

    Metrodome malaise…

  1180. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    CC in spandex? We don’t fill the legend seats with sexy women now do we?

  1181. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Pedroia missed yesterday’s game because his wife who is 7 months pregnant went into early labor. I really hope she is okay. I hate hearing stories like that.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns

  1182. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    >didnt he have like a 1 for 4 with a double the other day?

    i believe you’re right

  1183. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    85 pitches for CC
    I say 1 more inning? Then have Bruney get some work in

  1184. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Mo-Butter, I agree that it shouldn’t be about the money unless the other guy was somehow making like 4 mil +… I mean 2 million to the Yankees is nothing…. It would be really disrespectful to send Molina to AAA at thsi point in his career, idk if they even could… and keeping 3 catchers on the roster would be lame and not necessary… They want Cervelli to develop more also, even though he is already probably one of the best backups in the league

  1185. YankeeRay July 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    I love Cervelli >Molina.

    Anyone interested I started a Lohud Yankee Blogger Group on facebook.

    http://www.facebook.com/home.p.....0459611724

  1186. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    >I say 1 more inning? Then have Bruney get some work in

    suddenly, 10-9 Yanks. :razz:

  1187. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    85 pitches 6 innings, CC is smokin,

  1188. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Who’s Matt?

  1189. Pat M. July 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Manny’s…If you’re going to spend even one night in the Twin Cities, make it a point to get to Manny’s…..SJ, I’m with you on Manny’s

  1190. Doreen July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Hitting with RISP is definitely a good thing and mostly necessary, but it IS possible to win games without doing so.

  1191. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    So Damon is out, might as well take out A-rod too.

    Wow that’s only a few years ago and Melky looks a lot skinnier back then. Maybe he should hit the gym a little harder…

  1192. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    RalphieD (OPPC)
    July 7th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
    “Montero is now in the longest slump of his career. 0-17 with 7 strikeouts.”

    didnt he have like a 1 for 4 with a double the other day?

    ————————————————————

    Yes, my mistake. He’s 1-17.

  1193. Mo-Butter July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    “Cervelli is being sent down to get regular playing time. He won’t get that up in the majors playing once/twice a week. It has nothing to do with Molina’s $2M.”

    I would rather see the Yanks play for the 09 season… i understand that you have to manage your talent and guys like Pena need to play every day, but Cervelli can help right now. The starting staff loves him and he has shown he can put the ball in play. Not to mention he isnt a liability behind the dish…. what do you consider major league ready?

  1194. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Matt’s a “glass half empty” kind of poster. Doesn’t go over here real well.

  1195. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    if CC’s pitch count stays 120 and under, and it should, he should be allowed to go the distance tonight

  1196. vtyankeefan July 7th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    CC’s a horse- ride him

    Give Ransom some mop up duty, its a good chance to sneak in some rest for arod

  1197. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    “Brandon

    What is this Gardenhoser thing? Once was funny, then got tired in a hury, now it’s just obnoxious. Is this reverse racism or are you just challenged.”

    You ever watched “Rookie Of The Year” ? :lol:

  1198. SJ44 July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Maybe Melky went to Manny’s before the game? Always dangerous going that route.

  1199. stuart July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    hitting with RISP is not luck. It is when comparing a lifetime 240 hitter that has a a 1/2 a season when he hits 330 with RISp. But there are some guys that for a career hit close to there avg. or even some who hit better then there career avgs. because they concentrate more, go to the right side, shorten there swing, etc with RISP..

    You think Jeter has been lucky in his career to have such a good avg. with RISP and with the bases loaded? I think it is because he is a smart hitter, does not try to hit HR’s and the pitcher is at a disadvantage with RISP and he realizes that….

  1200. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    CF is death valley

  1201. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Stupid Gomez.

    Really?

  1202. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Almost slipped like a true Met

  1203. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Keep aiming it at him :evil:

  1204. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Alex is out of the game after this AB. I doubt he takes the field

  1205. Jweav July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    I never seen one real tear during the MJ memorial. Not one. It was completely fake. His little girl even fake cried at the end. Call me what you want but you know I’m right. By the way, nice job out there tonight, Yankees.

  1206. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    A-Rod baby!

  1207. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Damon’s out and Arod’s still in there?

    rest the golden hip!

  1208. jvcelt July 7th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    hitting with risp is how u win games, granted… but 0 for 21 is simply too small a sample size to get excited about. mr cano has probably been up over 1000 times in this position over his career. give the guy a break. we all know what a fine hitter he is.

  1209. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Jweav July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    I never seen one real tear during the MJ memorial. Not one. It was completely fake. His little girl even fake cried at the end. Call me what you want but you know I’m right. By the way, nice job out there tonight, Yankees.

    Yeah fake crying. Fake cry when you get banned

  1210. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    No pinch runner for A-Rod???? Lame

  1211. Pat M. July 7th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    GB, Is Montero going thru his 2nd turn thru the league ???

  1212. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    is Johnny hurting and we didn’t know it??

  1213. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Wouldn’t this be a good time to see Hinske play 3B?

  1214. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    To be fair, it’s possible that the CAPS LOCK button on Matt’s computer wore out and he will be back once it’s repaired.

  1215. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Erica – always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    is Johnny hurting and we didn’t know it??

    He has a bad calf muscle as far as I know.

  1216. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    I’m not taking a position on Jeter, but sure hitting with RISP, even on a career basis, can be a matter of luck. Plate appearances with RISP are a subset of total plate appearances, and you’d expect a normal bell curve distribution of results hitting with RISP.

    That would make some hitters appear clutch, and others appear to choke, when really it’s just a random distribution of results.

  1217. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    I don’t understand the mind of Joe Girardi

  1218. Cliff July 7th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    I have not been as critical of Girardi as many but there is no reason for A-Rod to still be in this game. Especially on the turf.

  1219. Scorpio July 7th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    I would rather see the Yanks play for the 09 season… i understand that you have to manage your talent and guys like Pena need to play every day, but Cervelli can help right now. The starting staff loves him and he has shown he can put the ball in play. Not to mention he isnt a liability behind the dish…. what do you consider major league ready?

    ………….

    I hear what you are saying Mo-Butter but Cervelli, as good as he’s been in this small sample size and debated unendingly on this blog, he will not make or break the 2009 Yankees. Prior to his stint here, Cervelli was not much of a hitter, I’m guessing they feel that he needs more “seasoning”. Molina is a highly regarded back-up and also well liked by the staff.

  1220. JD July 7th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Why do some people make a big deal about Montero being too big to be behind the plate. Look at flippin’ Mauer!

  1221. KO July 7th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Hitting is some luck, mostly skill, and a lot mental. Robbie has been extremely mental w/ RISP lately. It was obvious it had gotten in his head a little bit. You saw his making fun of himself after he finally got that hit. It was weighing on his mind. Don’t underestimate the mental part of this game, ever

  1222. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Watching Dickey pitching is still amazing to me considering his hadicap.

  1223. Jweav July 7th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Carl…Just an observation. It was very weird. Maybe it hasn’t hit them yet.

  1224. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    considering his handicap.

  1225. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Wave Your Hat,

    Oh yeah I remember Matt, his posts are usually pretty dumb. I don’t see any posts from him in this thread though since like 4:45 today.

    I’m assuming he posted something against the rules which was then deleted by Pete.

  1226. JD July 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    “His little girl even fake cried at the end”

    I don’t think that little girl would “fake cry” about her father, shes young she lost someone extremely important to her that she’ll now have to grow up without her father in her life. Maybe you can say everything else, but I highly doubt a little child is going to fake emotion of their deceased parent.

  1227. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    So Jeter is out of the game, but A-Rod is in???

    I repeat. I do not understand the mind of Joe Girardi

  1228. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    uh – Jeter out and arod still in?

  1229. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    “The odds were with Cano and he delivered a broken-bat single into right field. ”

    Odds actually have nothing to do with it.

  1230. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Pat M.
    July 7th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
    GB, Is Montero going thru his 2nd turn thru the league ???

    ————————————————————

    Probably so, PAT M. He’s got 93 at bats and 10 walks. Even with 7 strikeouts in 17 at bats, he’s only got 11.

  1231. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    CC is such a pleasure to watch. It’s been awhile since we’ve had a pitcher of his caliber.

    Moose was fantastic last year but he isn’t the workhorse that CC is.

  1232. tex's friend July 7th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    we are up 10-1 and third best record in baseball, and there is still more complaining on here than happy messages.

  1233. Wave Your Hat July 7th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    That little girl was crying. Just my opinion, but leave her alone, she’s just a kid.

  1234. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    damn Melky made that look easy and it wasn’t

  1235. TheMelkyWayIsTheOnlyWay July 7th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    People are always jumping to the conclusion that Brett Gardner is better than Melky on days when he has 2 hits plus. After his 5 hit game Gardner went hitless for like two games. Melky may not always have multi hit games, but you can usually count on him getting atleast one hit. And we don’t even know what Melky could have done today in the first 6 innings to say if Gardner is better or not.

  1236. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    CC is such a pleasure to watch. It’s been awhile since we’ve had a pitcher of his caliber.

    Moose was fantastic last year but he isn’t the workhorse that CC is.

    You aint lying man

  1237. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Come on CC just throw a change-up you know he’ll swing at it.

  1238. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    If the game gets out of hand in the later game tomorrow or Thursday, it will probably be Rodriguez turn to get the last couple of innings off. Perhaps Jeter’s legs were cramping or just tight.

  1239. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Ransom should only play, ONLY play Short or 2nd.

  1240. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Here’s the video of young Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, people can decide for themselves:

    http://tinyurl.com/nms2rr

    Personally, I don’t think she’s ‘fake-crying’ in any respect. The notion that Michael Jackson is her biological father might be fake, however. She looks more like Francisco Cervelli.

  1241. Jweav July 7th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Wave your right. I’m an a*% for talking about a kid like that.

  1242. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    I just find it a little gross that after Michael spent his life shielding his kids from the public. Now he his gone and his family is parading them on stage at his memorial

  1243. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    oh god the MY9 postgame I keep forgetting :roll:

  1244. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Russ Salzberg… ugh.

    I will not be posting any audio later because my9′s coverage is terrible.

  1245. E-gawa July 7th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    No MJ talk please.

  1246. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Can we take the MJ talk out of the Yankee lohud blog please?

  1247. Joe from Long Island July 7th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    I still say take CC out here. Save his arm for October. Let Robertson do two innings of mop-up.

  1248. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    His little girl even fake cried at the end.

    ========================

    I don’t think she was fake crying. We all have different opinions on him, but for her she lost her daddy that she loved. Those tears were real imo

  1249. stuart July 7th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    I go to the pen. put in Tomko.. CC needs to be saved for bigger games and the long season.

    Take CC out…

  1250. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Erica don’t even get me started w/ that mockery of a funeral. And it wasn’t in his hometown they basically did this thing like an event. I mean that’s just pitiful, his daughter’s words were meant for her dad as messed as he was in life, just a mockery when it’s televised and posted everywhere.

  1251. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Tomko will do mop up

  1252. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    You better be quicker when you’re dealing with Gardner.

  1253. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    I guess it’s just one of those nights for Brett :)

  1254. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    nice game gardy!

  1255. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    That theme song for the Emerald Casino is great. Bo Diddley was one of the all time great guitarists.

  1256. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Even though two of his hits are infield singles he hit both of them pretty solidly up the middle.

  1257. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    “I still say take CC out here. Save his arm for October. Let Robertson do two innings of mop-up.”

    Why do you think Tomko is warming up :?

  1258. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    How many pitches has CC thrown tonight? Can he go out for another inning?

  1259. dennis-Costanza July 7th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    NickSF.

    I do not want to punch anyone in the face either.

    -dennis

  1260. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version July 7th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    back to back losses for the Yanks? what’s that?

    nice to see CC step it up after his poor start last time out.

    With this rotation (get well soon Wang, smarten up soon Joba), there may not be too many losing streaks anytime soon.

    If those guys stay healthy, 100 wins is a reasonable finish.

  1261. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    100 pitches even for CC. Tomko is coming in.

  1262. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    CC at 100

  1263. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    “Here’s the video of young Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, people can decide for themselves: ”

    That’s obviously just a little girl crying over her dead father. It’s pretty despicable that someone would rip an 11 year old girl for grieving over her father’s death. Some people are pathetic.

  1264. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    “I just find it a little gross that after Michael spent his life shielding his kids from the public. Now he his gone and his family is parading them on stage at his memorial”

    That was the only problem I had with the memorial (that and the fact that Mariah Carey somehow lost her voice). I didn’t like the ending; the entire family up on stage like it was the Grammys. Other than that, I thought that it was handled well. Also, who else forgot that Jermaine was actually a good singer?

  1265. tim boat July 7th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Go to the pen. One reason why CC is always toast in October is because of all the 120 pitch starts during the season.

  1266. Patrick July 7th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    “I do not want to punch anyone in the face either.”

    Ahahaha talk about delayed response

  1267. Joe July 7th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    How could they accommodate all the celebrities, media, etc. if they held the funeral in Gary, Indiana?

    They did what was most convenient.

  1268. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes July 7th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    LA Yanks
    July 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
    Red Sox would love it if we traded Joba instead of Hughes
    Trade the guy with the higher upside and more ML success… brilliant.
    ====

    Well, then, they can just sob into their Pete’s Wicked Ale because we’re not trading EITHER of them.

    Reality doesn’t imitate the Lohud Dreamers.

    Thank Goodness.

  1269. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Our blog father has broken the seal on MJ talk several times, but I will respect the wishes of the commenters in this case.

    Except I would like to mention that I thought it was in very poor taste for Phil Jackson to smoke that cigar at the memorial. Just because you get free tickets to all events at the Staples Center doesn’t mean you have to use them. :(

  1270. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    This coming from someone who leaves whipcream on his face during televised games.

  1271. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    I’m sure Matt didn’t get banned.

    Its pretty simple…when the yankees win Matt disappears.

    When they lose, he posts longwinded diatribes about how terrible the team is and pointsout all their weaknesses.

    Don’t expect any moreposts from himuntilthey are losing.

    Then you’ll wish he was banned.

  1272. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    NOW A-Rod comes out. UGH

  1273. rconn23 July 7th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Perfect game for a Tomko appearance.

    No need to burn C.C.’s arm for 120 pitches in a blowout.

  1274. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Big Hinske at 3rd :)

  1275. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Couldn’t Tomko wait until the 9th?

  1276. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    wow I’m having spacebar problems.

    sorry about that.

  1277. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Yeah lets burn CC out

  1278. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Unrelated topic-

    Can everyone please take a moment and cross your fingers for me that I win mega millions tonight? I do not like working.

    I promise, if I win I will not forget my favorite blog posters.

  1279. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version July 7th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    It’ll be nice if Tomko can throw a scoreless inning.

    He had a pretty good June (despite a poor outing in his last appearance).

  1280. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    What is it about Nick Punto that strikes the fear of God into Yankee pitchers? The guy is batting .220. You can get him out.

  1281. KO July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    See, Girardi can learn, this time he waits til a 9 run lead to bring in Tomko. That’s when you bring him in.

  1282. Jweav July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    S.A. there were no tears. It was like it was staged. I’m sure she loved her daddy. I’m not saying she didn’t. I’m just saying not one person really broke down and really sobbed. It was very weird.

  1283. Boston Dave 2.0 - the kinder gentler version July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    scratch that – he didnt have a good June. I was looking at May.

  1284. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    AJ looks like he is thinking of a new pie recipe

  1285. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    “Can everyone please take a moment and cross your fingers for me that I win mega millions tonight? I do not like working.”

    Can’t you hit your pretend boyfriend up for some cash? :P

  1286. E-gawa July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Well I’m glad Girardi’s learning. We may need CC’s arm in october.

  1287. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Throw strikes Tomko.

  1288. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    I always ignore Matt – makes me happy. I enjoy seeing him work himself into a frenzy – how many ulcers can one give oneself?

  1289. Joe July 7th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    That’s how the Brewers burnt CC out… making him throw 120 pitches in 9 runs games.

    Whenever you can give the big guy a break, you do it. We ain’t winning in October if he isin’t fresh.

  1290. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    One thing Tomko has trouble painting– corners.

  1291. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    “I’m just saying not one person really broke down and really sobbed. It was very weird.”

    Well, in fairness, Michael’s been dead for a while now, relatively speaking. I’m sure that there were plenty of crying fits for most, if not all, of the family members.

  1292. joe. July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    man sizemore & knoerko are playing hr derby

    3hrs for knonerko
    2 hrs for sizemore

  1293. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    There is a reason he is MPB Johnny Damon :-)

    I never even want to meet him. I am so happy with the pretend Johnny, meeting the real Johnny could only ruin things

  1294. Danny Boy July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Hughesy will probably get an inning in the 9th to stay fresh. 3 days today since he worked.

  1295. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Might be one of the last times we see Tomko

  1296. Pel July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    :roll:

  1297. Serf July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Yankees vs Angels this weekend. How about we flashback to this amazing game.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=250426110

  1298. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    “How could they accommodate all the celebrities, media, etc. if they held the funeral in Gary, Indiana?

    They did what was most convenient.”

    Oh I’m sorry the I can’t believe it’s not butter accomodations of Gary, Indiana would put a frown on the celebs, media and etc….

    Like I give a damn. It’s a funeral not a grammys award show.

  1299. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Matt is probably a Red Sox fan trolling on days we lose. How else would you explain why he’s never here when we are winning?

  1300. daver July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Tomko is….not good.

  1301. S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow; I'm down with the OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    S.A. there were no tears. It was like it was staged. I’m sure she loved her daddy. I’m not saying she didn’t. I’m just saying not one person really broke down and really sobbed. It was very weird.

    ============================

    You didn’t think she broke down at the end?
    Well, we will just have to disagree.

    Tomko :evil:

  1302. vtred July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Probably wanted to wait till CC came out of the game before putting Ransom AND Hinske in the field together.

  1303. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Carl
    July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
    Might be one of the last times we see Tomko
    ***
    is he going somewhere??

  1304. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    I don’t know, the whipped cream pies are working well. Pecan might be nice though – I’m sure the lucky recipient would love all those pecans and goop in their face.

  1305. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    “I never even want to meet him. I am so happy with the pretend Johnny, meeting the real Johnny could only ruin things”

    Why would it ruin things? Afraid the real thing won’t live up to the fantasy?

  1306. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Why is ACE being used on a game the Yankees will win?
    AJ might need him tomorrow!

  1307. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    So in an offhand way, Cervelli played a role in the writing of “Billie Jean” ?

    This really puts Molina on thin ice.

  1308. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Erica yeah hes going to spend the rest of his life painting

  1309. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    “Hughesy will probably get an inning in the 9th to stay fresh. 3 days today since he worked.”

    No he won’t.

    This is a Tomko game. No reason to use anyone else unless he gives up 5 runs.

    Then Coke, Hughes, Mo all have 2 days rest going into tomorrow.

    With Ace, Pettitte, Joba set for Thurs-Sat you need those guys fresh.

    No way you pitch Hughes in an 8 run game.

  1310. 7*7 July 7th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Wow Tomko

    This is the guy who is going to come in if AJ/Andy/Joba get knocked out early?

    We may miss Aceves more than we think.

  1311. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    “Hughesy will probably get an inning in the 9th to stay fresh. 3 days today since he worked.”

    i hope not…unless aj plans on going 8 tomorrow, we might need him then and if hes used today and tomorrow he wont be available when we will most certainly need him, thursday!

  1312. tampayank July 7th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    so AROD was the last starter pulled? wow

  1313. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Serf
    July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
    Yankees vs Angels this weekend. How about we flashback to this amazing game.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=250426110

    ======================

    I prefer the game from last August where the Angels committed like 10000 errors – we were at that game. It was crazy

  1314. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    “Erica yeah hes going to spend the rest of his life painting”

    I don’t know if that’s a good thing either. I saw that supposed picture of Hughes. There must be another Phil Hughes that plays for the Yankees because that picture didn’t look anything like the Phil Hughes I’m used to seeing on the mound.

  1315. Bo Knows July 7th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    But I don’t know Diddly

  1316. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Laura-

    Its kind of like the really good looking guy from my sophmore english class in high school. He was amazing looking. Some point during the semester, I worked up the nerve to go up to him and strike up a conversation before class. He was the dumbest person I ever spoke to.

    I never spoke to him again.

  1317. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Tex can’t jack ‘em out, but at least he’s getting on base.

  1318. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    “so AROD was the last starter pulled? wow”

    Most ML rosters carry only 4 bench players, 5 at the most.

    You can’t sub everyone, its common sense.

    A Rod was one of the first guys taken out. Relax.

  1319. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Buster thinks the Phillies have the best chance at Halladay, then the Yankees and Red Sox

  1320. haiku-man July 7th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Melky a sucker for that knuckleball.

  1321. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    The real Johnny Damon has a real wife, although I can’t say whether everything about her is real.

    And now Eric Hinske is a real Yankee!

  1322. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    “Melky a sucker for that knuckleball.”

    It is 10-1 you know.

  1323. Rishi July 7th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    miggs
    July 7th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
    “so AROD was the last starter pulled? wow”

    Most ML rosters carry only 4 bench players, 5 at the most.

    You can’t sub everyone, its common sense.

    A Rod was one of the first guys taken out. Relax.
    =======

    So far he was the last yankee taken out, and the one who probably needs it most on that fake grass

  1324. Serf July 7th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    “Erica yeah hes going to spend the rest of his life painting”

    I don’t know if that’s a good thing either. I saw that supposed picture of Hughes. There must be another Phil Hughes that plays for the Yankees because that picture didn’t look anything like the Phil Hughes I’m used to seeing on the mound.

    _______________________________

    I agree. Hughes was crouched and looking down as if he had let a run in or something. That’s nothing like Hughes at all.

  1325. pat July 7th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    “so AROD was the last starter pulled? wow”

    If he’s going to get a DH day in the next 2 days, everyone else probably could use the time off turf.

  1326. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    10-2 I forgot Tomko :evil:

  1327. yanksince57-was last year 1959 or was it 1965? July 7th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    brandon – sanit was fast tracked to scranton! do you think he’ll be up this year?

  1328. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Nick in SF-

    I am well aware of that. She is also his second wife. And he supposedly cheated on his first one while she was actually giving birth to their twins. Which makes me think he may not actually be the nicest guy in the world.

    But I still have MPB Johnny Damon. Its really just an innocent crush :-)

  1329. Serf July 7th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    “Erica yeah hes going to spend the rest of his life painting”

    I don’t know if that’s a good thing either. I saw that supposed picture of Hughes. There must be another Phil Hughes that plays for the Yankees because that picture didn’t look anything like the Phil Hughes I’m used to seeing on the mound.

    ****************

    I agree. Hughes was crouched and looking down as if he had let a run in or something. That’s nothing like Hughes at all.

  1330. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Tex is 4-6 Nice day still no homers

  1331. Don July 7th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    CC’s strikeouts are wayyyy down. Like Santana last year.

  1332. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    “He was the dumbest person I ever spoke to.

    I never spoke to him again.”

    Judging from Damon’s post game interviews, I can see why you might not want to talk to him in person. He doesn’t strike me as someone who belongs to MENSA. :P

    As an aside, I just checked the Mega numbers. I don’t think you won. They are dreadful. Too close together.

  1333. Kyle July 7th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Tomko’s portrait of Hughes actually looked like Joe Torre

  1334. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    People talk about turf like they’re playing on freshly crusted lava.

  1335. 4 x 4 July 7th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Why are the Twins taking strikes against Tomko?

    He is a tee-ball stand!!! Hit the first pitch out of the park!!

  1336. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    “And he supposedly cheated on his first one while she was actually giving birth to their twins.”

    You can’t hold that against him. He’s a man. Cheating is in their DNA. :P

  1337. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Laura-

    I watch his postgames on mute occasionally to bypass that problem :-)

  1338. Jerkface July 7th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Brett Gardner could be ROY if the media values position players over pitchers.

    Gritty, exciting, an IGNITOR. And he actually has the stats to back it up.

  1339. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Great game Yanks

  1340. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    The Twins couldn’t wait to leave New York and now, they probably can’t wait until we leave Minnesota.

  1341. Clint July 7th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Baseball players are not exactly Harvard scholars….

  1342. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Laura-

    Those are Friday’s numbers. Tonight’s aren’t up yet. Should be in about 5 minutes.

    I play family birthdays and favorite Yankees. Then a few quick picks

  1343. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    “Its kind of like the really good looking guy from my sophmore english class in high school. He was amazing looking. Some point during the semester, I worked up the nerve to go up to him and strike up a conversation before class. He was the dumbest person I ever spoke to.

    I never spoke to him again.”

    hey…atleast he wasnt as bad as Dan…right?

  1344. Zolio July 7th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    How can you send Cervelli down after this game?

    Talk about cold hearted. Atleast wait till he goes 0-4.

  1345. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    If this is goodbye (for now) for Cervelli, he went out on a high note. I’ll miss that guy.

  1346. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    “brandon – sanit was fast tracked to scranton! do you think he’ll be up this year?”

    Not unless someone is hurt. I doubt it.

  1347. Rocko July 7th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    I actually was rooting against the Mets this week

    I root against Joe Torre and his Dodgers, so as a result, I rooted for the Mets.

  1348. Laura - And the Oscar goes to....Optimus Prime!! July 7th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    “Those are Friday’s numbers. Tonight’s aren’t up yet. Should be in about 5 minutes.”

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    25-27-35-38-39[28]

  1349. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    RalphieD-

    Dan was actually kind of evil. I went out with him a few times the summer of 2005. He then made a very brief comeback the following October. He doesn’t live far from me so I still randomly run into him occasionally. He was so horrible that the last time I spotted him I was out to dinner with another guy and I actually ducked at the table

  1350. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Laura-

    I hope that’s not it. I hate when i don’t win the lottery

  1351. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    MY9 postgame nothing to see here.

  1352. Antones July 7th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Aceves is on a 65 pitch limit?

    That means even if he averages 15 pitches per inning (which is pretty good for a starter), he won’t even last 5 innings.

    Burnett better go 8 tomorrow.

  1353. m July 7th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Okay. So we can beat everyone except Philly, Washington, & Boston. Sound about right?

  1354. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Bronx Jeers: lava has more give. Haven’t you ever player lava volleyball?

    As for the Twins, they and their stupid/greedy GM deserve every loss we can give them.

    dennis: thanks. When I posted that earlier in the day, I was riding a bus because my car is in the shop due to a bad tranny. Oops, I mean a bad transmission — I do live in San Francisco, after all.

    But hopefully, if I can eschew fantasy face-punching under those circumstances, I can the rest of the time too.

  1355. Erica - always OPPC July 7th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    m-

    Basically. Yes

  1356. Y26 July 7th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    If you didn’t know any better, you would think the LA Dodgers didn’t have anybody else on their team except Torre and Manny.

  1357. RalphieD (OPPC) July 7th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    “Dan was actually kind of evil. I went out with him a few times the summer of 2005. He then made a very brief comeback the following October. He doesn’t live far from me so I still randomly run into him occasionally. He was so horrible that the last time I spotted him I was out to dinner with another guy and I actually ducked at the table”

    wow duckin at the table bad…thats bad

  1358. Carl July 7th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    The guy on mlbnetwork called Tomko Phil Hughes lol.

  1359. Don July 7th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Why are the Twins players soft tossing at 11:30 at night on the field?

  1360. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Josh Johnson is tough, even the Kung Fu Panda is 0-3 off of him.

  1361. Johnny D. July 7th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    Wow. The Yankees make the Twins look like chumps. Great game. A-Rod was A-ROBBED! :(

  1362. G. Love July 7th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Don’t fret about Cervelli guys. The way this season has gone Posada or Molina will inevitably hit the DL again shortly. It’s not bad luck or anything. They are just older catchers and catchers get nicked and hurt.

    It’s actually nice having a solid player to fill in for them.

    Cervelli has done a great job and basically squeezed Molina out of a job here next season.

    Hope he gets a full playoff share!

  1363. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    “Josh Johnson is tough, even the Kung Fu Panda is 0-3 off of him.”

    That nickname for Sandoval has to stop, Nick in SF look what you started. :lol:

  1364. vb03 July 7th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    “Josh Johnson is tough, even the Kung Fu Panda is 0-3 off of him.”

    That nickname for Sandoval has to stop, Nick in SF look what you started.

    ——————-

    It’s awesome and ridiculously appropriate. Even HE likes the nickname.

  1365. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    http://i159.photobucket.com/al...../Panda.gif

  1366. GreenBeret7 July 7th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Laura – And the Oscar goes to….Optimus Prime!!
    July 7th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
    “He was the dumbest person I ever spoke to.

    I never spoke to him again.”

    Judging from Damon’s post game interviews, I can see why you might not want to talk to him in person. He doesn’t strike me as someone who belongs to MENSA.

    As an aside, I just checked the Mega numbers. I don’t think you won. They are dreadful. Too close together.

    ————————————————————

    Damon may not be a nuclear physicist, but, he’s not stupid, either. He does however have a bad speech impediment.
    His talks and speeches to the wounded soldiers are great, though.

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    From Jon Heyman’s Twitter -

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  1368. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Russ Salzberg is so bad.

    The fact that this guy is on TV is a joke.

  1369. R-Tek July 7th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Nady for Pablo Sandoval?

    If we throw in Matsui can we get Brian Wilson and Jonathan Sanchez?

  1370. Bronx Jeers July 7th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    I also tend to keep my hands in my pockets when riding a bus in SF.

    They’re actually quite useful in the sense that they do serve their purpose which is not always the case in NY. They move people.

    But there are some characters using them.

  1371. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Hey, I did not make up that nickname! I was just the messenger to LoHud.

  1372. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Nick, Pablo does not look like a Kung Fu Panda :lol:

  1373. dennis-Costanza July 7th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    GB7.

    Damon is not stupid IMO. He is smart enough to think about someone other than himself.

    -dennis

  1374. miggs July 7th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    MY 9 is unbelievable.

    They showed, what, 3 questions to Joe G?

    No player interviews?

    So bad.

  1375. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Brandon, it’s not how he looks (although he’s a little chubby), it’s how he acts.

    R-Tek: that’s just mean. Funny, but mean. I like it.

  1376. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! July 7th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    what do you mean how he acts ?????

  1377. Aura July 7th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Mark my words – the Yankees will go into a tailspin when they send Cervelli down.

  1378. Betsy July 7th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Good win – nice and easy and never in doubt. What is this, 11 out of 13 now?

  1379. Mike July 7th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Aura,

    I happen to agree. There is something to be said for team chemistry.

  1380. Tank July 7th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    “Nady for Pablo Sandoval?”

    :lol:

  1381. Nick in SF July 7th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    He eats bamboo and has a tough time mating in captivity.

    http://baseballreflections.com.....star-team/

  1382. GreenBeret7 July 8th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    dennis-Costanza
    July 7th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    GB7.

    Damon is not stupid IMO. He is smart enough to think about someone other than himself.

    -dennis

    ————————————————————

    Evening, Dennis. Hope all is well in The Great (soon to be) White North with you and Ms Amy.

    I had a chance to listen to him when he came through Walter Reed a couple of years ago. Funny guy. He talked to the crowd and to individuals…went through some of the wards. Quite a nice guy.

    He talked about everything and about his speech impediment,about how people perceive him to be less than bright because of the impediment and what he went through to get it better than he was, about the embarrassment it caused. There’s nothing that anybody could say about him that will change what he does. Spends a lot of money and time on that project.

  1383. m July 8th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    So, in the car, Tim montemayor says that Cervelli looks good and that he could be the heir apparent to Georgie.

    I know some of you dismiss that idea, but it’s not farfetched.

    Of course, there’s the little issue with, um, Jesus.

    GB7,

    What handicap does Dickey have?

  1384. rk July 8th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    I think if we agree to take Vernon Wells contract we might be able to get Halladay for Hughes, Gardner, Cervelli and Pena. It would be an outstanding rotation for a few years but Hughes could actually become the ace he was supposed to be and it could just look like Rick Wise for Steve Carlton in a few years

  1385. Peter Abraham July 8th, 2009 at 12:13 am

    Wells has 101.5 million remaining over five years and now is an awful player You want him? Really?

  1386. 4time July 8th, 2009 at 12:13 am

    If we have to take Wells contract back, I’m not giving Toronto more than Tomko, Ransom, and Shelly Duncan.

  1387. Nick in SF July 8th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Cervelli as our everyday catcher of the future still sounds farfetched, if that’s what the radio guy was saying, but Cervelli as a major league Bronx backup doesn’t sound as farfetched as it once might have.

  1388. m July 8th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    If you take on Wells’ contract, you can’t give up Hughes. And Cervelli, Gardner, & Pena haven’t embarrassed themselves, but do they make a “package”?

    I bet Wells and Rios would both do well with a change of scenery.

    Remember when Wells got his big contract? Nearly everyone who had an opinion was scratching their head, “Huh?”

  1389. Carl July 8th, 2009 at 12:19 am

    http://www.wfan.com/pages/223566.php

    audio from the post game

  1390. m July 8th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Well, Nick. monty could be right. Posada could be backing up one day. And Cervelli could be his heir apparent. :P

  1391. Nick in SF July 8th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    I just assumed that this “Tim montemayor” person was on the radio, but if he was actually riding with you in the car when he said that, I apologize for the error.

  1392. Cash is King July 8th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    There is no way in hades that the Yankees take Wells contract.

  1393. GreenBeret7 July 8th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    m
    July 8th, 2009 at 12:08 am
    So, in the car, Tim montemayor says that Cervelli looks good and that he could be the heir apparent to Georgie.

    I know some of you dismiss that idea, but it’s not farfetched.

    Of course, there’s the little issue with, um, Jesus.

    GB7,

    What handicap does Dickey have?

    ————————————————————

    Dickey was born without an Ulner Collateral Ligament (Tommy John had nothing on this kid) in his pitching arm, that wasn’t discovered until his draft physical. The Rangers had agreed with him on a $750,000 bonus. after the physical, they knocked it down to $75,000. Dickey said he’d take it because he just wanted a chance.

  1394. dennis-Costanza July 8th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    GB7.

    Well said.

    NickSF.

    Not that there is anything wrong with that…re: car parts or social issues.

    Mel.

    Rasheed Wallace? Is there anything wrong with that?

    -dennis

  1395. Erica - always OPPC July 8th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    I am off to bed!!! Good night Yankee people!

  1396. m July 8th, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Nick,

    Yes, it’s obnoxious radio host on Sporting News Radio. He’s a Cubs fan, but he’s growing on me because he’s sort of rooting on the Yankees. Apparently they make for good radio.

    GB7,

    Thanks.

    dennis,

    Great pickup. He’s a killer from the outside. Loses his cool a lot. Or rather, he picks up a lot of technicals. You know the rule about getting suspended after 15 techs? Thats’s the Rasheed Wallace rule.

    He seems to be older than father time, but stays healthy. I’m hoping you guys beat Shaquilla & LeBronze, but that it takes too much out of you that you’ll lose to the western conference champs.

    What’s the word on KG? And can Rondo let bygones be bygone?

  1397. dennis-Costanza July 8th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Losing his/her cool after 15 technicals? Sounds like the LoHud board after a Yankee loss.

    The Yanks look great right now.

    -dennis

  1398. rk July 8th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    Well is not an awful player. He is a very good defender and he has become a mediocre hitter. He’s overpriced by about 50 MM$. Its like paying a posting fee to get Halladay. It a high price to pay but if we can get Halladay and not have to give up as much talent it might be worth it. I suspect they will still want Hughes or Ajax.

  1399. vb03 July 8th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    rk July 8th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    Well is not an awful player. He is a very good defender and he has become a mediocre hitter. He’s overpriced by about 50 MM$. Its like paying a posting fee to get Halladay. It a high price to pay but if we can get Halladay and not have to give up as much talent it might be worth it. I suspect they will still want Hughes or Ajax.

    ——————-

    Very good defender? No, not really.

    Thinking about paying Wells in excess of $15M a year over seasons 2011-2014 wants to make me hurl.

  1400. vb03 July 8th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    *makes me want to hurl

    Dyslexic moment there.

  1401. rk July 8th, 2009 at 1:10 am

    If you want to acquire a great pitcher you have to pay a vet high price. The Yankees may be the only team capable of absorbing Wells bad contract. It puts them in a position to acquire Halladay if they want to pay the price. Usually if it is only money thae Yankees will pay the price. I expect Toronto will be greedy an ask for much more.

  1402. rk July 8th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    vet = very

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