Game 85: Yankees at Twins (now with pre-game audio)
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One last time at the Metrodome …
YANKEES (50-34)
Jeter SS,
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera LF
Ransom 3B
Gardner CF
Pitching: RHP Alfredo Aceves (5-1, 2.02).
TWINS (43-42)
Span CF
Tolbert 2B
Mauer DH
Morneau 1B
Kubel LF
Cuddyer RF
Buscher 3B
Redmond C
Punto SS
Pitching: LHP Francisco Liriano (4-8, 5.49).
TIME/TV: 1:10 p.m., YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees have won two straight, five of six and 12 of 14 as they try for the series sweep. They trail the Red Sox by a game in the AL East but have the third-best record in baseball.
TWIN PEAKS: The Yankees are 6-0 against the Twins this season, outscoring them 35-21. They have won 17 of 23 against the Twins dating back to the start of the 2007 season.
FEELING MINNESOTA: The Yankees are 76-64 at the Metrodome. This is the final time they will play here in the regular season as the Twins are set to open a new, open-air (gulp) downtown ballpark in April.
DOME RANGER: Alex Rodriguez has hit .367 at the Metrodome (86 of 234) with 21 homers and 54 RBI.
MINNY MAULERS: Mark Teixeira is 13 of 25 with 10 RBI against the Twins this season. Derek Jeter is 44 of 118 (.373) with 26 runs scored and 14 extra-base hits in his 28 games against the Twins dating back to the start of the 2006 season.
ACE ON THE HILL: Aceves is starting for the first time in the majors since last Sept. 28 at Boston, a game the Yankees won 19-8. He is 1-0, 2,74 in four career starts. As a reliever, he was 2-0, 0.96 with a save in his last 11 appearances. He faced the Twins twice this season out of the bullpen, pitching two perfect innings and getting two victories.
ROAD WARRIORS: The Yankees are 24-18 away from the Bronx this season. They have won seven straight on the road and have not trailed in their last 58 innings on the road dating back to June 24.
G.O.A.T: Mariano Rivera’s last 12 appearances (starting June 7) have been insane. 12.2 innings, 3 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 15 strikeouts. That’s an 0.71 ERA as opponents are hitting .071.
PHIL OF THE FUTURE: Phil Hughes has made 11 appearances in relief this season. His line: 15.2 innings, 7 hits, 2 runs, 3 walks, 16 strikeouts.
TEAM TRENDS: The Yankees are 34-7 when they score first. … 33-1 when leading after six innings. … 12-10 in one-run games.
GRITTY AND GUTTY (AND GREAT?): Brett Gardner is hitting .333 (36 of 108) in his last 44 games with 13 RBI. He is 4-9 with four RBI in this series.
THIS TIME LAST SEASON: The Yankees were 45-40 and 7.5 games back after 85 games last season.
THEY’RE HOT: Hideki Matsui is 11 of his last 25 with six extra-base hits and 11 RBI. … Jorge Posada is 9 of his last 19 with five RBI. … Nick Swisher is 6 of his last 16 with five RBI.
LEFTY LOVERS: The Yankees are 16-9 against left-handed starters this season. They are hitting .295 (second in the majors) against LHPs with a .380 OBP and a .503 SLG.
NO WHIFFS: The Yankees did not strike out on Wednesday night. That is the first time that has happened since last July 2 against Texas.
DAMASO MARTE UPDATE: Word is he will throw batting practice in Tampa on Saturday. He has been there for roughly two months with a sore shoulder.
Back with more later.
UPDATE, 12:00 p.m.: Johnny Damon (knee, calf) is getting a day off. … Yes, Posada is catching a noon game after a night game. Girardi said he would get one day off in Anaheim. Betcha anything it’s tomorrow when Joba starts. … Neither team took BP today. … A-Rod will DH today then start at third over the weekend against the Angels.
UPDATE, 12:04 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game press conference. He talked about Aceves, the center fielders and assorted other stuff. It’s about seven minutes long:
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UPDATE, 12:34 p.m.: Just took a little walk around the Metrodome. Got the hand-carved turkey sandwich and Caesar salad combo (a bargain at $7.25) and marveled at how many Yankees fans I saw. So many people in Jeter jerseys and NY caps. Even in Minnesota.
Thanks also to all the blog readers who have stopped by the press box to say hello. Awfully nice of you.
UPDATE, 1:00 p.m.: The Twins just had five fans dressed as fish race around the faces. Team mascot T.C. The Bear (“the natural enemy of fish”) knocked down a few of the participants. Gotta love the Twins.
UPDATE, 1:09 p.m.: Liriano warming up to Vertigo by U2.
UPDATE, 1:10 p.m.: We are underway, right on time at 1:10 p.m. Good-sized crowd here with a lot of camp groups. Hope you can listen or watch wherever you are.
Lots of update love today.
UPDATE, 1:22 p.m.: The people here love their local hero, Joe Mauer. That single puts him at .391.
UPDATE, 1:35 p.m.: Based loaded and no outs for Clutchy Cabrera. Liriano has lost the strike zone.
UPDATE, 1:39 p.m.: The Melkman pops to right. But Cody Ransom walks (Chris Russo voice: “You can’t be walking Cody Ransom in that spot!) Meanwhile Liriano is closing in on 50 pitches already.
UPDATE, 1:45 p.m.: Gardner did what he needed to do and hit the ball on the ground. 2-0 Yankees.
Then Jeter makes it hurt with a bloop RBI single. 3-0 and the Twins must be wondering what they need to do to beat this team.
UPDATE, 1:47 p.m.: Once Jeter got picked off there, Gardner had to go to the plate. I wonder if they did that on purpose?
That goes as a caught stealing for Brett.
UPDATE, 1:52 p.m.: Um, Ace, an 0-2 home run and a walk is not how you pitch with a 3-0 lead.
UPDATE, 1:58 p.m.: In the end, he’s Cody Ransom. No excuse whatsoever with the backup catcher chugging down the line. Ransom appeared to have trouble getting the ball out of his glove.
3-2 as the Twins have been invited right back into the game.
UPDATE, 2:18 p.m.: Another knock for Posada. He’s 11 of his last 21.
UPDATE, 2:19 p.m.: Cano is 29 of 65 (.446) when he connects on the first pitch. How crazy is that?
UPDATE, 2:22 p.m.: OK, quit whining about Ransom. That’s two RBI.
UPDATE, 2:25 p.m.: GGBG is 5 of 11 with six RBI in the series.
By the way, good people, witness the downfall of Liriano and know well the Verducci Effect. This is what happens when you abuse young pitchers. They need surgery and then they stink.
UPDATE, 2:35 p.m.: They said Aceves could go 65 and that’s what he gave them on the button.
He leaves with a 5-2 lead but with the bases loaded and one out. David Robertson has some work to do here.
UPDATE, 2:42 p.m.: Robertson fans Punto and then walks Span on four pitches. Do not let Joe Mauer get to the plate.
UPDATE, 2:44 p.m.: Repeat, do not let Joe Mauer get to the plate.
UPDATE, 2:44 p.m.: Now you’ve done it. Tolbert walks on five pitches. Another run in. 5-4 Yankees and Mauer at the dish with the bases loaded.
This is trouble with a capital T.
My Dave Robertson faith is being tested here.
UPDATE, 2:46 p.m.: You knew Mauer would take a strike. 2-1 count. Go time now.
UPDATE, 2:48 p.m.: So you walk Span and Tolbert and throw strikes to Mauer? Nonetheless, 5-4 Yankees.
The line for Aceves: 3.1 4 4 3 1 2.
UPDATE, 2:53 p.m.: I don’t believe what I just saw … Mark Teixeira homered.
OK, we kid. But that did snap a career-long streak of 95 ABs without a dinger. Our long national nightmare is over.
UPDATE, 3:10 p.m.: Only one of the last 10 Minnesota batters has put the ball in play. HBP, 4 Ks, 4 BBs, one 4-3.
UPDATE, 3:16 p.m.: That’s it for the Ghost of Francisco Liriano. 5.1 innings, 7 hits, 6 runs, 3 earned runs, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts. 105 pitches, 62 strikes and he’s responsible for Cabrera at second base.
A loss today would leave him at 4-9. His ERA is at 5.47.
UPDATE, 3:28 p.m.: Nice work by Albaladejo. Were I the official scorer, I’d give him the win instead of Robertson. Yanks 3-2 as we go to the seventh.
Mr. Hughes, Mr. Coke, duty calls.
UPDATE, 3:41 p.m.: Just remember, Brian Bruney is the Eight Inning Guy. … If it’s 8-0 maybe.
Girardi has used Coke and Hughes, playing the matchup game effectively. Yankees need to get seven outs for a sweep. Mr. Rivera tossed only 11 pitches last night, so he should be good to go.
UPDATE, 3:47 p.m.: They were playing Livin’ On A Prayer between innings and T.C. The Bear was pumping his fist and acting like he was singing along. Funny stuff.
Ty Kepner of the Times just got a photo snapped with T.C.
Classic.
UPDATE, 4:03 p.m.: It’ll be Phil Franchise in the eighth inning. Mo just standing there for now.
UPDATE, 4:08 p.m.: Phil Franchise, four more outs in relief. 17 innings, 2 runs, 18 Ks. Can’t beat that.
Bullpen so far today: 4.2 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 4 walks, 7 strikeouts.
Going 7-0 against the Twins would be very impressive.
UPDATE, 4:22 p.m.: We go to the ninth and Rivera.
UPDATE, 4:26 p.m.: Hmm, Mo vs. Mauer with a runner on in a 6-4 game. Very interesting.
UPDATE, 4:29 p.m.: Or not so interesting as he grounds to first. Yankees win 6-4. Save No. 23 for the Sandman and a sweep for the Pinstripes. Albaladejo rightfully declared the winner.
Back later with some reaction. 5.2 scoreless innings for the bullpen. Prime time stuff.
“Moving forward, you’d obviously take Gardner. But on the basis of info available before 2009 and the first 85 games of 2009, you’d probably take Cameron if you had to make a choice”
actually, we would still take Gardner.
him receiving playing time, permits him to develop as a player. And he provides youth to a veteran team. Statistics don’t measure everything
bru:
I know you didn’t offer Kennedy, in a package for Halladay
The Twins broadcasters have had the nerve the last couple nights to talk about Yankee Stadium being a joke. One time they said that the Yanks play “in a phone booth”. YS has been unfairly a hitter’s park to this point, but that should change before next year, but the Twins own Hubert H Humphrey “Homerdome” has been the biggest joke in the league for the past 20+ years.
Mark in Tampa
They also said the Yankees were going to do nothing against Scott Baker because he was 2-0 against us.
Quick question:
Hughes, Joba, Wang + AJ, CC (that’s our rotation for the future, unless any trade happens)
My question is, don’t we need to start another LHP? Or you guys think only having CC it’s enough?
This is a game I’d be kind of surprised we win, but not shocked. Not shocked.
Buster on Halladay:
Buster:
How to get Roy Halladay
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Who is going to get Roy Halladay?
“It’s the guy who calls (Toronto GM) J.P. Ricciardi and says, ‘OK, I want Halladay and I know the price is going to hurt, but let’s get it done,’” said a baseball official Wednesday. “It’s not the guy who calls with their Baseball America list of Top 10 prospects and says, ‘I’m sorry, but I can’t talk about any of these guys.’ J.P. is the type who will stay on the phone with you 12 straight hours if he feels like he can get a deal done.”
John Schuerholz was known as an excellent trade partner in his time as general manager, someone who could make a blockbuster, because he would, in effect, broker the deal from both sides. He’d work quickly, he’d work aggressively, he’d know all the players involved, and he would understand how to make the trade work for the other team. He didn’t walk into the conversation trying to fleece the other team. Among current GMs, Kenny Williams of the White Sox is said by his peers to work as Schuerholz did, as does Jim Hendry of the Cubs, Kevin Towers of the Padres, Milwaukee’s Doug Melvin, Oakland’s Billy Beane and Cleveland’s Mark Shapiro, among others.
To read Buster’s take on what it’ll take for teams like St. Louis, Philly, Texas, Boston, New York and others to land Halladay, plus other rumors, notes and results, you must be an ESPN Insider.
If the Phillies land Halladay, they would immediately become the easy odds-on favorite to repeat as NL champions. If the Cardinals get Halladay, they would become the team most likely to break out of the NL Central mud bog. If the Dodgers were to get him, we might see Manny and Halladay dancing together at an L.A. championship parade.
We’ve heard so much in recent months and years about how teams are ever more reluctant to give up young talent, about how they are shying away from investing in players in their 30s. Well, Halladay is an exception to that, because he is the total package: Exceptional pitcher, tremendous durability, tremendous capacity to age well because of the movement on his stuff and his knowledge of pitching, incredible work ethic, great teammate, the consummate professional, an admired leader. Before this year’s draft, Ricciardi was talking about Halladay and mentioned that he had been looking over scouting reports of young players, and he realized for a moment, that if you spend a lifetime in baseball, you will perhaps be lucky enough to draft one Roy Halladay.
Ricciardi would love to keep Halladay, but the right-hander is eligible for free agency after the 2010 season and he is unlikely to re-sign with the Blue Jays. So Toronto will look to make the move now, or in this off-season. It all depends on who is willing to pay the price.
When it comes to players like Halladay, there’s no such thing as sticking a toe in the water. You dive in or you don’t get the player. So while the Phillies might want to make outfielder Michael Taylor an untouchable, as Bill Conlin writes, they would have to be willing to give up a Kyle Drabek and discuss the rest of their prospects. Or maybe they’d want to hold back Drabek — but they’d have to be ready to part with Taylor, Jason Donald and J.A. Happ. They cannot open the conversation with the Jays by listing three to six prospects they absolutely will not trade and then expect to get one of the two or three or four best pitchers on the planet.
No, if any team wants Halladay, they’re going to have to be prepared to give up a lot. The Cardinals are serious about Halladay, and a club official told Joe Strauss what he perceives the price tag to be: “Asked about the price tag for Halladay, a club source said: “Give Ricciardi all our minor-league rosters and let him circle any 5 names.”
The Brewers intend to check in on Halladay. The Phillies are serious players for Halladay, writes Andy Martino and Jim Salisbury.
The Rangers’ top-ranked farm system could help them get Halladay if they dive into the mix, writes Jeff Wilson; the Rangers will be choosy, says Tom Hicks, who is having financial trouble. Dealing for the ace would be expensive for the Red Sox or any other team, writes Sean McAdam.
In Toronto, the tone is different. Jeff Blair has a Halladay trade primer. There are only three reasons why you might trade Halladay, writes Bob Elliott.
We don’t need Cameron now, but before the season it was a gamble.
As this point in the season, Cameron is still a more productive player than either Melky or Gardner. Gardner still hasn’t shown he can hit lefties. The jury is still out on whether Melky continues to hit for the entire season.
Not signing Cameron allowed the Yanks to go with Pettitte over Hughes. In retrospect, I think that was the right choice, although I hoped Andy would pitch a little better than he actually has.
Going with Andy allowed the Yanks to have more starting pitching and it turns out bullpen depth, while the Yanks don’t seem to need the extra offense Cameron would have provided.
So, all in all I thing Cashman did good.
“The Twins broadcasters have had the nerve the last couple nights to talk about Yankee Stadium being a joke. One time they said that the Yanks play “in a phone booth”. YS has been unfairly a hitter’s park to this point, but that should change before next year, but the Twins own Hubert H Humphrey “Homerdome” has been the biggest joke in the league for the past 20+ years”
wait until 50% of the Twins home games are snowed-out next April and early May. Then we will find out which stadium is the joke.
and open-air baseball stadium in Minn ?? you have got to be kidding me
vinny-b (RIP Air McNair)
July 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am
bru:
I know you didn’t offer Kennedy, in a package for Halladay
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i don’t know what the jays would wan’t in return if we take rios with halladay.
we would probably try to unload swisher & the jays would probably have to take a lesser package.
if we can keep hughes,joba,montero,ajax it would be great.
i don’t see it happening & i know kennedy is hurt.
my point was if we take rios & can keep the above 4 we would be in fantastic shape.
Thanks Rishi. His name says it all, hes a Buster. I don’t like that little guy.
The Yankees are on a good roll. I’m kinda disappointed that the ASG is coming up. The break will do them good, but it would have been nice to keep riding the wave.
ok bru. kewl
Carl,
Yeah, I almost threw up the minute I heard them say that. And they didn’t go back and correct themselves later after he got bombed. You would think that a nearly HOF pitcher would have more sense in the broadcast booth than Bert(be home) Blyleven.
Yankees normally come out of the ASB smoking so I’m not concerned.
Right now, nothing the Yankees do will surprise me, and I mean this in a good way.
“The Twins broadcasters have had the nerve the last couple nights to talk about Yankee Stadium being a joke.”
I can’t take any ballpark that doesnt have a seperate bullpen seriously…
“People get topo worked up over the game threads and what’s said on them, you’re running on emotion, and when so much emotion is being used you can’t really expect logic on the game threads.”
Yeah, thats why I stopped posting in game threads. But I like the communtity here, I find you guys/gals to be very informed Yankee fans hence why I have come back. I just need to cut back on my pessimism, although beating the Sawks would help.
**community**
“The Yankees are 33-1 when leading after six innings.”
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this has to be the best in the majors, right?
Not that Marte is any kind of bullpen savior, but the WBC screwed him up.
the as break will be a good rest for our players & maybe we get a little bit closer to getting wang & marte back.
we all remember marte???
topo is to.
“The Yankees were 45-40 and 7.5 games back after 85 games last season”
ay caramba!
““The Twins broadcasters have had the nerve the last couple nights to talk about Yankee Stadium being a joke.””
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the joke is on them… because part of the money to build the stadium will come out of the money that would have gone to the frugal Twins via revenue sharing
Boston Dave 2.0-Odd considering how badly our bullpen started out.
As far as the Twins going to open air, it may not be as crazy as it seems. Avg temp in NY in April goes from 44 April 1st, to 52 by the end of the month. In Minn, it goes from 40 to 53. In Sept, NY goes from 70 to 60, Minn goes from 66 to 56.
Certainly, though, there will be some snow-outs and ridiculously cold days, but overall maybe not too bad. October could be very rough, but I don’t think the Twins have to worry too much about that.
“Not that Marte is any kind of bullpen savior, but the WBC screwed him up.”
This continues to be the mistake by fans, they continue to think the WBC hurt Marte it wasn’t the WBC it was when he was lifting weights that he hurt his shoulder, and kept shut about it hurting himself and us. That’s what happened. He didn’t get hurt in the WBC, he got hurt in the gym.
We got within 1 game after the break though right? I remember us winning 8 in a row after winning the first 2 in Fenway. Joba pitched a gem in that series.
I still dont understand why the Twins built an open air park. Does it not snow constantly in April there? They should at least have a retractable roof.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN,
That’s what I was thinking. It’s pretty amazing if you think about that.
I think I was reading an article on ESPN about how good the Sox bullpen is.. but they didn’t include that stat.
The Yanks need to go at least 7-3 against Boston the rest of the way. But they really need to take three of four at the Stadium the first week in August, just to prove a point that they can hang.
Carl-Yeah, Joba outdueled Josh Beckett in a 1-0 classic. right now, the highlight of his career.
How many of you guys want to be that we open next season in Minnesota?
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Having spent four years in upstate NY for college….BRRR!
I can think of 2 games we lost after trailing after six, that Royals game where Joba pitched well for seven innings and then we blew it and Mo’s blown save.
Brandon,
I didn’t hear about the lifting weights, but if that’s the case what the hell was he thinking! If Mo has taught us anything, reliever’s don’t need to body build, they just need good stuff.
If we get Marte back that is a HUGE pick me up. You can actually rest Cokey every once in a blue. Anyone notice how Mo got better once Yussssse was added to the BP and Ace became the extreme Ramiro Mendoza. Not too long ago they said he needed rest, now he’s getting it and being effective w/ it.
The Yanks last 2 losses have come in series finales.
They need to avoid that becoming a trend and today would be a good day to start.
Let’s remember that Minnesots is the state that elected Jesee “The Body” Ventura to Governor, and Al Franken to the Senate. AL FRANKEN! The drunk baggage handler from Trading Places!!!
Minnesota
Aceves = best, most understated move the Yankees made the past two seasons. Yes/no?
Rebecca-Yes.
“As far as the Twins going to open air, it may not be as crazy as it seems. Avg temp in NY in April goes from 44 April 1st, to 52 by the end of the month. In Minn, it goes from 40 to 53. In Sept, NY goes from 70 to 60, Minn goes from 66 to 56″
Mark: I consider myself a cold-weather person. However, the NYC climate and MINN climate are not comparable at all. Actually even when compared to Milwaukee, Chicago, and Cleveland, the MINN climate is almost in a category to themself. In particular, when it involves the prospect of outdoor baseball.
you don’t have to believe me, although i grew up in Milwaukee and have several friends/aquaintances in MINN. Their climate is more similar to Anchorage Alaska, then NYC
People care way too much about what the Red Sox are doing.
Worry about the Red Sox when the Yanks play them, which is not for another month.
Interesting that Heyman on with Adam the Bull (ugh – all Mutt talk this morning) lists the Phillies, Angels, Brewers and Giants as teams interested in Halladay. But no Yankees and no Red Sox…….Lol, and just a day or so ago, he mentioned the Yankees as favorites along with the Phillies.
Yeah Marte actually got hurt lifting a 25 pound dumbbell hahaha
Who knows though, maybe the WBC aggravated the injury. If he wasn’t pitching in the WBC maybe the Yankees find out about the injury earlier and shut him down.
Why not? If we ant to win the division we need to catch them.
No, it’s not necessary right now to care about what the Red Sox are doing, but it certainly is useful.
ant is want.
Heyman knows he will be a Yankee.
“I didn’t hear about the lifting weights, but if that’s the case what the hell was he thinking! If Mo has taught us anything, reliever’s don’t need to body build, they just need good stuff.”
We didn’t until like 2 days after when he was pulled from the WBC, my guess srsly, he was trying to look good and show off in the gym. See Marte was trying to keep a body for the chicas and hurt himself in doing so, pitchers aren’t even suppose to lift much weights during the season it’s too risky, anyway after that he kept hush hush about it and during the season he was pitching hurt and just got more hurt. IMO stupid, Dumb, cost us some games.
Excellent Soundgarden reference Pete!
Oh, of course. Gardner has outperformed expectations. I was reacting more to the insinuation that Cameron has been an unproductive player this year. I still believe that Gardner is playing over his head, but as long as he continues to play at a high level (probably one of the top 6-8 most valuable rookies), I have no complaints.
The Pettitte argument is specious, however. His prima donna attitude in the offseason has made me less tolerant than ever of his Jaret Wright 2006 redux performance to date.
Hokie, how is finishing 3-3 less than acceptable? They’ve won the series already , so let’s say they lose today – they are 2-1. Going 1-2 in Anaheim is not the end of the world – every team has another team that is just a thorn in their side and for the Yankees, it’s the Angels. For a team that’s gone 12-2 in their last 14, I can’t call anything they do less than acceptable.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Why not? If we ant to win the division we need to catch them.
No, it’s not necessary right now to care about what the Red Sox are doing, but it certainly is useful.
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Explain to me how it is useful to obsess over every win or loss by the Red Sox.
It’s not useful at all. None. Making too much hay over it only erases years off your life expectancy.
The Yanks can’t do anything about whatever the Sox are doing until they play them. And like I said, that’s not for another month.
The pennant races don’t even get interesting until after the trade deadline.
vinny-b (RIP Air McNair),
I don’t think it is the greatest idea, what will probably happen is that the Twins will have a lot of early season road trips and start every season in the hole. But, I don’t think going open air will be a total disaster there. After all, they did play for the first 20 or 30 years in open air in Minnesota.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am
How many of you guys want to be that we open next season in Minnesota?
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Having spent four years in upstate NY for college….BRRR!
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Where did you go to school Rebecca?
Cmon Minny!!!
Franco-There’s nothing we could do to affect them, but when they lose it helps us.
If baseball erases years off anybody’s life expectancy you have issues.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 9th, 2009 at 10:29 am
If we get Marte back that is a HUGE pick me up. You can actually rest Cokey every once in a blue. Anyone notice how Mo got better once Yussssse was added to the BP and Ace became the extreme Ramiro Mendoza. Not too long ago they said he needed rest, now he’s getting it and being effective w/ it.
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How bad is BJ Ryan right now? I was wanting him to be a Yankee at one point but it apprears that after he got hurt he has been terrible.
Does he have anything left to take a shot at?
“Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am
How many of you guys want to be that we open next season in Minnesota?
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Having spent four years in upstate NY for college….BRRR!
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Where did you go to school Rebecca?”
Syracuse. Where you don’t see the sun between October and May.
Good basketball team, though.
Just imagine how good our record would be had Marte and Bruney and Georgy been honest about thier injuries. The one thing this team can’t afford to do is lie about feeling hurt, if your hurt be honest, we give you some rest, that’s what benches are for.
From
Al w/ the hip monitoring to Jetes w/ the ankle to Georgy w/ the ankle, knees to Marte and Bruney’s shoulder to Wang’s issue earlier this season. Just be honest it will save us and you.
That’s not the greatest bottom-of-the-lineup i’ve ever seen, but since Damon really could use the day off I’ll shut up and put up =)
Ryan’s fastball has dipped recently in the mid-80′s. He has not been good. I wouldnt mind taking a cheap shot but no money.
This is not a great matchup for the Yankees. Ace is ona pitch count, and this is not our best lineup. Guess we’ll see.
No way we get Halladay, but if the sawks get him
This is the 3rd series in a row the Yanks have a chance to sweep. They lost the final game in the previous two chances. Hopefully they get it done today…especially with 3 games in Calif looming.
We have to release Cody Ransom – Ramiro Pena was doing fine.
That lineup is fine. Damon has been slumping anyway. Hopefully the ASB will do him some good.
I will be bold enough here to say that if the Sox get Halladay unless either Beckett or Halladay is quickly injured the division race is over.
The Sox arent going after Halladay. Lester, DiceK, Beckett, Wakefield, Bucholz. Maybe they pick him up if they dont re-sign beckett.
Russell NY-He needs to play every day, and they want to test him in the outfield.
“How bad is BJ Ryan right now? I was wanting him to be a Yankee at one point but it apprears that after he got hurt he has been terrible.
Does he have anything left to take a shot at?”
Peter Gammons spoke w/ a 40 yr. old vet in the Orioles system, kind of like thier Nardi Contreras, he said he always thought BJ would hurt himself w/ those mechanics, unfortunately for BJ his career as a lock down SU/CL is done. He’s never getting that 93-94 mph he use to have, that’s what happens when your not honest about inj. I bet BJ is kicking himself for not taking a few days of rest when he needed it, he basically blew out his arm for life.
Doreen,
Happy & Sappy
But it saddens me that Proctor looks so unhappy. He always looked happy with the Yankees (except when he has lighter fluid in his hands).
Rishi,
Thanks for that. Olney did not mention the Yankees & Heyman saying no chance? I like our odds!
“We have to release Cody Ransom – Ramiro Pena was doing fine.”
His ABs in AAA will only make him better for us when he returns. Plus “supposively he’s learning the OF” I’ll believe it when I see him in an OF pos in AAA, which has yet to happen.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 9th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Franco-There’s nothing we could do to affect them, but when they lose it helps us.
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Those who fret the most about each Red Sox win and loss are also the same people who do the most panicking when the team in front of you gains a couple of games in the standings because you’re in the middle of a bad stretch.
As we’ve seen several times this season already, the Yanks have fallen back 4-6 games within a week or ten days but they can also make those games up rather quickly when the other team goes into a bit of a tailspin of their own.
It just doesn’t make any sense to make a big deal out of what the Red Sox are doing so early in the season when both teams have to play 162 games and both are going to have plenty of win steaks and losing streaks along the way.
Rebecca,
Were you at Cuse in 03?
“Olney did not mention the Yankees & Heyman saying no chance?”
That’s when Stealth Cashman does his best work. You hear what they want you to hear.
The Yankees have shown to be a very streaky team that can make up a lot of games in a short amount of time as well as lose games in that same time frame.
However, when the Red Sox lose, it helps us. This is not irrational fan behavior is a fact, ad I’m not going to pretend I don’t hope that the Red Sox lose.
“I will be bold enough here to say that if the Sox get Halladay unless either Beckett or Halladay is quickly injured the division race is over.”
Really going out on the limb there
ad is and.
“Russell NY-He needs to play every day, and they want to test him in the outfield.”
Ramiro Pena is never going to be enough of a hitter to be an every-day player in our lineup. If he wants to train for the outfield then he should do it in the offseason… we have Damon, Gardner, Melky, Hinske, and Swisher… 5 guys for 3 spots. Unless they want an outfield of Pena, Gardner, Melky for late leads in September I can’t really understand that.
“It just doesn’t make any sense to make a big deal out of what the Red Sox are doing so early in the season when both teams have to play 162 games and both are going to have plenty of win steaks and losing streaks along the way.”
Guiseppe, I actually agree with you. Both the Sox and the Yankees have very strong teams. They both have strengths and they both have some issues.
They both will go through some winning streaks and losing streaks and I predict they will be neck and neck right down to the end of the season.
I find it comical that folks on here proclaim they know that either the Sox or the Yankees will go for Doc. No one knows at this point. Look at all the predictions that were wrong about Tex.
pat,
Exactly! lol. Cash is so unassuming, who would’ve though he was so diabolical?
You know, I was thinking about what I would give up to get Halladay. I know it would be painful, but when are we going to cash in our chips? Pujols, mauer, those caliber of players aren’t going to be available via trade. Get’er done.
Russell NY-They want him to become a more versatile bench player. Very useful to have a guy who can play every position but catcher better than Eric Hinske can.
Hopefully the Yankees don’t pay a ransom by playing Cody at 3rd base
The Braves should offer Tommy Hanson, Yunel Escobar (the SS Toronto needs) & 2 of their top 3 remaining prospects for Halladay.
It gets Halladay out of the league, and seeds Toronto w/the talent they seek.
Coach:
Alas, no. My freshman year was 04-05.
So yeah, I kinda just missed out.
ray-I will agree that the Sox and Yanks will be neck and neck all season long.
If the Yanks go .500 over the final 78 games they’ll win 89. Somehow I think they’ll do a little better than that. If they go 44 – 34 over that stretch they’ll win 94 and probably get the WC. How many do you think they need for the division? My guess would be 97.
Good news on Damon sitting, absolutely loved Twin Peaks (or rather the sound track), and nice to hear marte’s getting off the couch. Best of luck.
ray,
Actually some of us were correct on Tex!
Since ARod came back, the Yanks are 37-19, a .661 winning percentage and (I think) the best record in baseball.
In the same period the Sox are 33-22, a .600 percentage.
The notion that we need Halladay to win the division, or that if the Sox get Halladay they will win the division and the division race is over, is ludicrous.
Wave Your Hat-Neither team needs Halladay. Both wil make the playoffs.
But if the Sox get Halladay they will be a juggernaut and the division race will be over. Absolutely. That pitching staff is unfair.
Wait till etc.-
I think you are wrong. The Sox’ pitching staff is real good as it is. Halladay makes it better, but not by enough.
Replace Smoltz with Halladay? Pssh. No question that makes them better.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 9th, 2009 at 11:01 am
The Yankees have shown to be a very streaky team that can make up a lot of games in a short amount of time as well as lose games in that same time frame.
However, when the Red Sox lose, it helps us. This is not irrational fan behavior is a fact, ad I’m not going to pretend I don’t hope that the Red Sox lose.
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I hope the Red Sox lose every game too.
But I don’t watch their games unless they’re playing the Yanks and I don’t feel the need to get inning-by-inning updates when they’re playing someone else.
Like I said, those who obsess the most about the Red Sox this early are the same people who panic the most when the Yanks fall 4-5 games back in the middle of May with 120 games to go.
To each his own, I guess. But you lose a lot more hair or it turns gray quicker when you obsess over each game long before the pennant race even becomes interesting.
i like that damon is sitting, and arod is DHing especially after playing on turf in a night game before a day game. i wish pena was still here, hopefully ransom can pick up his game a bit.
Let me point out, once again–
The Braves had Smoltz/Maddox/Glavine for about a decade.
The won one WS. In fact, the Yankees beat ‘em twice.
Good pitching helps, but it’s not everything.
I don’t see where the Sox pitching staff is so dominant. Beckett is the only starter with an ERA under 4.00, the bullpen is showing signs of wearing down, and Smoltz, who was supposed to be the savior, has an ERA over 6.00. Penny is getting good press but has an ERA of 4.67, how is he a better performer than Andy this year? If they somehow get Halladay at the expense of young arms like Bucholtz, maybe Bard and Masterson, why does that make them better than the Yankees’ staff with CC and AJ up front and all those young arms in the bullpen come playoff time? I just don’t see it and think it’s much easier to believe a team you don’t follow or see every day has better players.
I follow the Sox via Gameday (try not to watch their ugly mugs) if I’m watching the Yankees via computer.
But I think everyone knows that I’m the last person to panic on the blog, and even coined the phrase “there’s 162 games in the season” (or something like that). We’re not out of it until we’re mathematically eliminated, and last year it did go down to the last week even though we basically had no chance with Tampa Bay doing the impossible.
So there can be a balance of Yankee/Red Sox viewing. It may not be healthy, but there can be balance.
Slow morning on here today.
“His ABs in AAA will only make him better for us when he returns. Plus “supposively he’s learning the OF” I’ll believe it when I see him in an OF pos in AAA, which has yet to happen.”
my guess is that they are teaching it to him first instead of just throwing him out there. also AAA field has been a swamp and a lot of games have been delayed. i agree though, i hope they didnt just send him down to be lost along with shelley duncan!
Can’t understand Ransom at 3rd base today rather than Hinske.
How else is Girardi supposed to find out if Hinske can be a 3rd base option unless he puts him there ?
Ramsom is a liability with a glove and a bat.
ray,
“Actually some of us were correct on Tex!”
m, you were indeed correct in your predictions.
So, your Lakers are going to be tough guys now with Artest? Just harassing ya a little bit.
I have mixed feelings about the C’s getting Wallace. How much gas does he have left in the tank…..C’s already have enough guys that well into their 30′s.
Betsy, unacceptable may have been strong on my part.
But going back to the discussion before the trip started I recall many saying they (and the team) should be happy to split the road trip…my stance was that we and the team could live with a split but don’t need to be happy about it. I’m happy to win series, and I expect that (realistically or not) for every series. I’m happy if we do, not happy if we don’t, but I have the sense to understand it’s going to happen to every team in baseball and can move on from it.
So if you reset based on where we stand today, I will not be happy to go 1-3 over the next 4 games, but I realize it wouldn’t be the end of the world if it happened and Yankees could certainly survive the season if it did.
So, I’ll be happy if we go 2-2 over the next 4 and win both series, finishing the road trip 4-2…I can accept it if we don’t and end up 3-3
“Can’t understand Ransom at 3rd base today rather than Hinske.
How else is Girardi supposed to find out if Hinske can be a 3rd base option unless he puts him there ?”
Hinske bats LH, Ransom RH. The starting pitcher today is LH. That’s the main reason. That and Hinske is a butcher at 3B.
Not overly surprised to see MPD Johnny Damon sitting today
lol. Listening to Dan Patrick. You know the promos they do between segments? He’s telling the story about how he’s watching Springsteen (I think he went to the final rehearsal at the Super Bowl). He’s 5 feet away from the stage taking a picture, and he sees Springsteen go off to the side, ladles some water on his knees to help him slide across the stage. Trade secret.
Mel,
Yeah, but you’re not normal.
Some dunderhead is going to come in here if the Yanks win today and fret about how it doesn’t mean anything because they are 0-8 against the Red Sox.
Now that might be the extreme, but I don’t think there’s any doubt that the vast majority of people who don’t care as much about the Red Sox on a daily basis are also the people who are often the most rational as well as the least panicky of Yankee fans.
Talk radio exemplifies this notion.
I don’t care about the Sux
I am content with the wild card
The C’s are built to win now. Picking up Wallace was a good move. He’s a knucklehead but he fits the bill on the court. They now have three 7 footers who can all play D. Obviously they need to stay healthy, but if they do they’re probably the favorites this year. The Cavs getting Shaq solved noe of their problems. They still cant guard the pick and roll.
Not a complaint by any means…but it seems like a lot of mid-week day games recently. Any reason why, or just a fluke of the schedule?
“Hinske bats LH, Ransom RH. The starting pitcher today is LH. That’s the main reason. That and Hinske is a butcher at 3B.”
It is interesting. Hinske career-wise doesn’t hit lefties that well, although in limited at bats this year he actually has hit lefties better than righties.
But the Yanks have elected to give ARod a day away from third 3 times since the Yanks got Hinske, each time when the Yanks were facing a lefty. The Yanks didn’t have to do that.
I wonder if the Yanks don’t want him playing third yet, or if Hinske doesn’t think he’s ready yet.
GF-
Is it ok for me to obsess about the Sox?
-dennis
“I don’t care about the Sux
I am content with the wild card”
I do not accept this comment…I can only be content with the wild card if we end up in the series.
I just want to get in, but given the chance I prefer that it not be via the wild card. Would like to have some home field advantage in the post season, rather than none through the ALCS.
David M:
Getaway games. We’re not used to them because most teams dont give them to the Yanks. But it’s definitely better for them to fly to Calif in the late afternoon than at midnight.
Girardis love affair with Ransom is going too far.
Hes a career minor leaguer with little upside
Pena could have stayed and spelled Jeter Arod and Cano once a week and gotten some AB`s
“I wonder if the Yanks don’t want him playing third yet, or if Hinske doesn’t think he’s ready yet.”
A bit of both I’m sure. Hinske can play 1st and 3rd, but I’m sure the Yankees would like to use him most in OF.
Either way, they have to get guys like Hinske and Ransom some work to maintain their skills.
No problem with this lineup. Great day to give AROD a half day.
Maybe this will help……Reports here in Orange County Ca., is that both Big Daddy Vlady & All-Star cf Tori Hunter will miss the Yankee series this weekend…..Yanks actually fair better vs. the Halos out here in Disneyland than they do in The Bronx……Doc is on the move, the question is who will pony up the propects and the necessary dough to land him…..The bidding will be fierce….
dennis-Costanza July 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
GF-
Is it ok for me to obsess about the Sox?
-dennis
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Oh, sure. You go right ahead.
Judging by how our pitchers have fared at home… being on the road may not be a bad idea this postseason. We also have the best road record in the AL
Girardi asked Hinske where he felt most comfortable, and he told Joe right field.
“is Jorge Posada still a quality major league catcher?”
…yes
“A simple question for the board’s consideration:
Is still Jorge Posada a quality major league catcher?”
Are you serious?
Yes, he’s the 3rd best catcher in the AL. Which AL catcher other the Mauer or VMart would you rather. Best C in AL EAST by far.
Don’t believe me? Keith Law listed him as an All Star snub.
“DAMASO MARTE UPDATE: Word is he will throw batting practice in Tampa on Saturday. He has been there for roughly two months with a sore shoulder.”
This team could use a healthy and effective Damaso Marte.
I’m not holding my breath but I do have my fingers crossed.
He was good somewhere at sometime right ?
“Not overly surprised to see MPD Johnny Damon sitting today”
Late last night Pete wrote that Johnny’s lookin like Fred Sanford out in LF.
I’m still laughing.
Got a little emotional last night watching Manny face K-Rod and hit a HR off him.
Not very often you see 2 legends like that face off in a crucial part of the game.
They’re on Colon-watch.
That crazy Ozzie:
White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen joked about Colon on Wednesday.
“I worry about Colon because Colon was a big-time Michael Jackson fan,” Guillen told reporters. “He might [watch] the TV and cry all day long. Maybe he is in L.A. at his funeral, because I can’t find him. When he gets to Charlotte, Oney [Guillen's son] will call me to say he’s there.
“Nobody knows how big of a Jackson fan Colon was. I’m serious. He might be depressed a little bit,” Guillen added.
Dan
July 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Got a little emotional last night watching Manny face K-Rod and hit a HR off him.
Not very often you see 2 legends like that face off in a crucial part of the game.
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Except for last night when Mariano faced Mauer with 2 outs in the 9th down by 1.
(Mauer not a true legend yet, but on the path)
K rod is a Legend?
That word has lost its meaning
You never know how a park will play until games are actually played there, but the Twins’ announcers better be careful. Looking at the dimensions for Target Field, it will appear it is going to be a very cozy ballpark (371 to left and right center, for example). Of course, who knows how the wind currents will be, or how high the fences will be – but those are short power alleys right there.
Dan
July 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Got a little emotional last night watching Manny face K-Rod and hit a HR off him.
Not very often you see 2 legends like that face off in a crucial part of the game.
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The better legend match up was a few weeks ago
What about acquiring David Weather at the trade deadline?
Has a 2.76 ERA this year, hasn’t had an ERA over 4 since 2004, good control, still throws hard
Would be a nice pick up.
Can I just reitterate that the yankees need to play at night. My attention span at work today is about as big as Swisher’s…..
“What about acquiring David Weather at the trade deadline?
Has a 2.76 ERA this year, hasn’t had an ERA over 4 since 2004, good control, still throws hard
Would be a nice pick up.”
Is that the same former Yankee David Weathers? He may be good now, but I don’t trust him that much. He always worried me when he pitched for us in relief haha
David Weathers returning to the Bronx ?? Interesting concept, but does Cinn. see themselves still in the Wild Card race ??? Actually I see them looking for a lefty first, then a RH stick…..However the first issue to be resolved is another starter…..
m,
LMAO!! oh ozzie.
Last night’s Mo vs Mauer at bat was better…
K-Rod a “legend”? Barf. Setting the single-season saves record is nice, the ring in ’02 was nice…but really? Let’s see where he is in another two years before he is a legend.
Mauer vs. Rivera is definitely the better match up in terms of new vs. old generation of greatness, and both guys are as classy as they come. Mauer could go down as the greatest catcher of all time if his health allows him. What a hitter. Verducci did a nice article on him in Sports Illustrated maybe 1-2 weeks ago.
NYY626
July 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Can I just reitterate that the yankees need to play at night. My attention span at work today is about as big as Swisher’s…..
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You think you have issues? In an earlier post, I refered to Johnny Damon as MPD instead of MPB because there was so much paper covering my kepyboard
They didn’t find Colon yet?
LAst night Mo vs. Mauer is why you watch baseball.
ray (sox fan)
July 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
ray,
“Actually some of us were correct on Tex!”
m, you were indeed correct in your predictions.
So, your Lakers are going to be tough guys now with Artest? Just harassing ya a little bit.
I have mixed feelings about the C’s getting Wallace. How much gas does he have left in the tank…..C’s already have enough guys that well into their 30’s.
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Yes, I was all over Tex as I was on Manny and still would be next year as a DH/Swing OF.
Also a big Laker fan and love the Artest move.
DMan
Why would the Reds trade away their best bullpen arm in a middle of a race? the central is up for grabs.
“You think you have issues? In an earlier post, I refered to Johnny Damon as MPD instead of MPB because there was so much paper covering my kepyboard”
You could’ve played that off and called him “My pretend dude”
Ozzie Guillen thinks Colon is deep in mourning over Michael Jackson. No joke. It’s on Deadspin, if you doubt me.
Oh wait someone already said that, I’m an idiot.
I wonder what the Yankees record is with Gardner playing, and hen Melky plays instead?
FYI The Yankees could miss both Hunter and Vlad for the series this weekend., Hunter tweeked his groin possible tear and Vlad is having and MRI.
Dan
July 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Got a little emotional last night watching Manny face K-Rod and hit a HR off him.
Not very often you see 2 legends like that face off in a crucial part of the game.
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Krod is a legend in his own mind
“They didn’t find Colon yet?”
Honestly I just hope the guy’s ok. Some one must know something because Ozzie making fun of the situation would be pretty bad if the guy was seriously call the police missing…
Weathers would be an upgrade over Tomko, but not anyone else… well Albaladejo too probably.
Plus he’ll be 40 in September.
If Aceves goes five solid this afternoon they’ll probably sit pat until Wang is ready… assuming nothing happens with Doc Halladay, obviously.
I’m wishing ACE a phenomenal outing,he’s hungry and ready,feels honored to be in the pinstripes and on a mission to contribute to the team.
~Anytime he’s given an opportunity to show his stuff,he’s taken advantage.
~I hope he gives 6 good innings,7 if he’s smokin hot!! GO ACE!!
So if Colon did a Jackson move; would it it be considered a Moon Pie walk?
-dennis
Man guilty in crash that killed Billy Martin dies
http://www.usatoday.com/sports.....0202_x.htm
I still remember that Christmas day. I was watching TV with my brother and there was some news alert that came on to report that Billy Martin died.
Ramey
My pretend dude, just doesn’t have the same ring
“But the Yanks have elected to give ARod a day away from third 3 times since the Yanks got Hinske, each time when the Yanks were facing a lefty.”
OR
it has nothing to do with Hinske and it makes sense to take Hideki out of the DH spot and rest him when the Yankees are facing a lefty?
With all of the talk about catchers in the Yankee system, the guy that may be getting overlooked is Charleston’s Mitch Abeita, a solid hitter with a bit power and a good defensive catcher. He’s hitting just under .280 with an on base average of .390. He threw out 41% of the base stealers last year at Staten Island and is throwing out 39% this year. He’s splitting time with Chase Weems. Abeita was a 19th round pick last year. It’ll be interesting to see what he does from here on out.
Michael Jackson?? I’m still trying to recover from seeing Cody Ransom on this team and Pena in the minors. Can ANYBODY give a good reason why Ransom is on this team over Ramiro Pena? And no, Pena needing to play everyday is not a good reason.
Erica,
Understandable. I’ve been calling Shakira my pretend girlfriend for almost a decade now
I think Colon may have Jackson and Weird Al confused:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw00EUh0GT4
From Kim Jones:
Alfredo Aceves: He’s tomorrow starter and he’s excited about it. “How many pitches did I throw Sunday?” he asked. Forty-three. “How many did Joe say I could throw tomorrow?” Sixty to 65. “I should be able to throw more than that,” he said. Really, it’s no wonder Girardi loves the guy.
we’ll be lucky if Ace goes 6 with a 65 limit pitch count. Imagine if the kid has a no-hitter going after 5 or 6 but has reached the limit. what would you do in that situation?
What’s the over/under on innings we expect Ace to go today?
At most I’ll say he pitches into the 6th…but I’m guessing he finishes or comes out in the 5th
GB, Where is Kyle Higgy and where does he place in the pecking order of backstops in the organization ????
“Got a little emotional last night watching Manny face K-Rod and hit a HR off him.”
Didn’t Manny also hit a game winning HR off Krod to clinch the ’07 ALDS?
In this technology age of being way too accessible, I can understand being worried about not being able to contact someone.
Colon not wanting to be contacted would be a good news scenario.
What is the word on Jorge? He is killing the ball in double A. They signed him early in the year, big power bat. When do they move him? has anyone seen him play? Offensive version of Aceves:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=477601
Gonna miss the whole game, as is the case for afternoon starts.
Anyways, go Yanks.
I think I once bought a Weird Al Yankovic tape
Some of the songs I remember:
Fat-Bad
Lasagna-LaBamba
I think I’m a clone now-I think we’re alone now
Alimony-Mony Mony
Grrr…mcdyess signs with San Antonio…
I love Weird Al
He’s all about fun.
If you’re a Rangers fan, head over to http://www.lohud.com/protalklive at 1 p.m. to see our hockey guru, Rick Carpiniello, do a video Q&A. Carp is the best and really knows his stuff.
If Ace is 65 pitches, then at 15/inning you’d get into the fifth.
“July 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
If you’re a Rangers fan, head over to http://www.lohud.com/protalklive at 1 p.m. to see our hockey guru, Rick Carpiniello, do a video Q&A. Carp is the best and really knows his stuff.”
I am a Devils fan.
Puddy from Seinfeld = greatest Devils fan ever
Weird Al did the Stevie Nicks classic-
Stop Dragging my Car Around/ (Stop Dragging My Heart Around)
Montero is BA’s 3rd ranked prospect at midseason! http://bit.ly/SkNsS
Tony, he Shelley Duncan on the field, w/ a better bat.
Team Mexico could be the RH power off the bench come Sept.1st
“OR
it has nothing to do with Hinske and it makes sense to take Hideki out of the DH spot and rest him when the Yankees are facing a lefty?”
pat-
Could be. Although in last Sunday’s game the Yanks were facing a lefty, rested ARod and played Matsui at DH.
Another one rides the bus
My Bologna
I was given tickets to a Weird Al show a while ago. I sat next to some woman who did not have an ear. She also had “Al” shaved into her head….
When’s the NBA chat? Knicks dreams of signing LeBron might have taken a hit with the salary cap dropping for 2010-2011. Unless LeBron chooses to go without them signing another max contract player.
Amish Paradise (Gangster’s Paradise)
Ok I’ve been really out of it lately so does anyone want to explain two things for me?
1. What is all this Halladay talk and where did it come from?
2. Why Aceves for the start and not Hughes?
Montero<3
hes in a little funk right now, but i believe in jesus!
Another one-Amish Paradise
But if I remember correctly, Coolio wasn’t too thrilled with that one
I was given tickets to a Weird Al show a while ago. I sat next to some woman who did not have an ear. She also had “Al” shaved into her head….
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Pat M.
July 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
GB, Where is Kyle Higgy and where does he place in the pecking order of backstops in the organization ????
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Afternoon/morning PAT. Higashioka is playing at Staten Island now. Haven’t looked at his numbers lately, but, he was holding his own. I think that with Cervelli’s bug jump, they may need to reevaluate, but, I think that they still think Cervelli is a backup/emergency catcher along the lines of Molina. After Posada and Molina, I’d think the catchers run, Montero, Romine, Higashioka, Pillittere, Abeita, Weems. That’s just my guess, though. I haven’t really seem much on it. That doesn’t take in the draft picks and Sanchez, either.
Erica – always OPPC
July 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Amish Paradise (Gangster’s Paradise)
gooood one
“White N Nerdy”
Hughes, Ajax, Aceves, Melky for Wells, Halladay
“1. What is all this Halladay talk and where did it come from?”
Philly must move w/ the quickness.
“Ok I’ve been really out of it lately so does anyone want to explain two things for me?
1. What is all this Halladay talk and where did it come from?
2. Why Aceves for the start and not Hughes?”
1) Jays GM JP Riccardi said he is willing to listen to offers for Halladay. Thus, Yanks fans are all OMG WANT!!!!!!!!!, because, dude, it’s Halladay.
2) Hughes isn’t stretched out and Aceves pitched four innings on Sunday –> Aceves can pitch longer than Hughes.
*********
Brandon:
Team Mexico:
Aceves, Banuelos, Vazquez…who else am I missing? And did they seriously all come in the same package?
“Hughes, Ajax, Aceves, Melky for Wells, Halladay”
*puts a bullet in the chamber*
I dare them
Thanks for the audio, Pete.
Boy, Joe G’s pretty diplomatic re: Damon. Also about his own feelings about the metrodome.
Funny exchange between Pete and Joe G re: CF production.
Talks about Joba, good stuff. Perhaps similar to what David Price is going through? Steve Phillips had a good article about Price. Said all his problems will be solved if he can throw strikes.
Not a problem so far, Rays lead 1-0, top of the 2nd
Pete who’s catching for the Twins,you have 2@ base 3rd?
“Brandon:
Team Mexico:
Aceves, Banuelos, Vazquez…who else am I missing? And did they seriously all come in the same package?”
There’s another guy can’t remeber his name.
haiku man: I think Redmond is the catcher.
Angels don’t need Vlad and Torri to beat us
Guys like Napoli, Figgins, Howie Kendrick etc. will torture us as usual and score plenty of runs
Obviously, Redmond is catching.
“Guys like Napoli, Figgins, Howie Kendrick etc. will torture us as usual and score plenty of runs”
Kendrick got sent down and I think he’s still there.
“Kendrick got sent down and I think he’s still there.”
He’s back up. Came up around the 4th.
Kendrick is back up
“Steve Phillips had a good article about Price. Said all his problems will be solved if he can throw strikes”
Strikes, eh? That Phillips is a freakin’ genius.
Also did a parody of “The Right Stuff” Called, “The White Stuff”….it was ahout O O Oreos
From twitter:
BloggingBombersYesterday, fans took pictures of David Cone in the press box. Today? Three have taken pictures of @peteabe in the last 30 mins. HIlarious.
I saw a few similar tweets. The beat writers are getting a kick out of this.
From twitter:
BloggingBombersYesterday, fans took pictures of David Cone in the press box. Today? Three have taken pictures of @peteabe in the last 30 mins. HIlarious.
I saw a few similar tweets. The beat writers are getting a kick out of this.
Steve B
July 9th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
“Steve Phillips had a good article about Price. Said all his problems will be solved if he can throw strikes”
Strikes, eh? That Phillips is a freakin’ genius.
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I’m not convinced that he’s a genius. Did he even mention that Price needs to “pound the zone”??
They “tortured” them so much, the Yankees won the series when the Angels were in NY.
Couldn’t have been that bad.
“Is Jorge Posada still a quality ML Catcher”.
He’s more a quality ML catcher than folks are who post that he isn’t.
Like Pete said this morning, if you think Posada is a problem, its time to put on your dunce caps.
Angels pitching is not as good as it has been while they’ve been demolishing the Yankees in years’ past. And, missing Hunter and Vlad is definitely not going to mean that all the other guys will just mash to make up for it–especially not Kendrick, who has not proven he can hit consistently against anyone this year. I’m not holding my breath expecting that he will figure everything out this weekend just because he has good history against the Yankees.
No more great bullpen this year in LA, and while Saunders and Weaver have good records and have pitched well at points, I don’t think either are going to shut down NY’s lineup. Lackey has also been hurt and struggled, but he is always tough on NY.
Guys… JP Reccardi is NOT trading Holliday within his division. It is career suicide for him if he does. Think he wants to see him leading the Yanks or Sox to a WS?
Pipe dream guys…
Pete Abe: A veritable celebrity
White and Nerdy is my personal favorite.
Of the songs not mentioned, I like The Saga Begins (American Pie).
Well at least the Sox will get home field for the World Series with both Beckett and Wake pitching in the All Star Game.
Thanks Rebecca!
Al is Weird and a genius.
This is not a vintage Angels team.
K-Rod – gone
Shields – out for the yr
Garett Anderson – Gone
Their once dominant bullpen is now very hittable. Their only starter with an ERA under 4 is Weaver.
Still a good team, but not a vintage Angels one.
Monto
July 9th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Guys… JP Reccardi is NOT trading Holliday within his division. It is career suicide for him if he does. Think he wants to see him leading the Yanks or Sox to a WS?
Pipe dream guys…
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As nearly everybody agreed on yesterday, JP has his price. He’d be foolish not to make the trade if the Yanks offerend Joba, Hughes, Montero, and Aceves plus taking on Wells contract. That’s not gonna happen, and nobody wants that to happen. All I’m saying is, JP will trade within the division if the price is right.
Plus, Cone and Clemens were dealt to the Yanks.
It happens, it’s no big deal.
Heyman now saying word is the Jays will not trade within their division…..
Pete’s a rock star! Approaching the Boss in popularity!
Not sure how much of a factor Guerrero will be this weekend. He pulled something behind his knee on Tuesday night when they put him in the outfield. Izturis is as much of a pain against NYY as Figgins is.
Halladay – 46 pitches in 2 innings
Who does he think he is, Joba?
betsy
July 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Heyman now saying word is the Jays will not trade within their division…
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Then the Jays just lost a ton of leverage. I think Heyman’s talking out of his ass.
price looks to be pulling a joba velocity wise today…sitting at basically 90…as low as 88-89 several times…odd?
JP himself said he would trade within his division because next winter, Halladay can sign with an AL East team anyway, so that won’t be a factor and he wants to get the best talent back.
He would prefer not to trade him here, but you are kidding yourself if you think he won’t consider these AL East offers as much as he would others.
“Heyman now saying word is the Jays will not trade within their division…”
That does help keep the price down for a late swoop in.
betsy
July 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Heyman now saying word is the Jays will not trade within their division…..
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He’s not as much of an idiot as I thought he was. He’s realizing that the more he contradicts himself, the more hits he’ll get and the more “popular” he’ll be.
Riccardi might not even have a job if he screws up this Halladay trade, so it may not matter if he trades him out of the division.
He is going to look to get the best package back that he can sell to his fanbase and ownership.
Heyman has said three different things in the last 24 hours on this story.
Meaning….He has no idea what’s going on.
Nobody competent makes definitive decisions 24 hours after putting someone on the market.
If you do, you lose leverage.
Instead of BS’ing everybody as if he has some finger on the pulse of the Blue Jays, which he (or anybody else in the media) doesn’t have, he’s better off saying nothing.
In today’s world, there are people who know enough about this process to call him on his BS. That’s one way of losing credibility as an insider type of reporter.
If Phillies make Drabek untouchable, then it opens things up for the AL East teams even more.
Pete
What’s with the people in fish costumes on the field?
nothing better than a day off from work and a yankees day game
Pete,
Wanted to stop by and see you multiple times during our week trip here in the cities but thought itd be creepy for you. Love following your updates!!!
It behooves JP Riccardi to get a Yanks/Sox bidding war going.
That is his chance for the best package. He knows it and that’s why he even admitted that a trade within the East was possible yesterday.
Think Hal wants to see Doc in Boston?
We either get Halladay, or we don’t.
Win-win either way.
is the yankee game streaming on the internet anywhere – i can’t get the YES stream…
If he trades Halladay to the Cards, you’re looking at the NL reps for the WS.
ST Louis is hoping they get him.
It’s the buzz on their forum,they want him but may not have the prospects to get him,or the money.
http:/www.stltoday.com go to sports page.
It’s odd – despite my not wanting to trade Phil or Joba (particularly Phil), I already feel myself getting disappointed if we don’t trade for Doc….
“If he trades Halladay to the Cards, you’re looking at the NL reps for the WS.
ST Louis is hoping they get him.
It’s the buzz on their forum,they want him but may not have the prospects to get him,or the money.
http:/www.stltoday.com go to sports page.”
Word is that StL. GM said something akin to “show JP a list of all of our prospects and tell ‘em to choose five”.
I wonder what will be less confusing for me?
Listening to John and Suzyn call the game?
or
Listening to the game in Spanish via WQBU
I got A’s in my high school spanish classes back in the day, maybe WQBU it is?
You don’t get many opportunity to assemble a Halladay-Sabathia-Burnett rotation…
With our offense, MO closing games…
SA-
I am going to stick with John & Suzyn. I just hope John doesn’t spill anything this time in the booth like he did on Monday
What station is WQBU. I might be able to follow the game easier too.
“Roy Halladay has been a hot topic on the blog and in my in-box for the past two days. Before I get into this, I want to thank all the people that e-mailed me to remind me that David Cone and Roger Clemens were both dealt from Toronto to the Yankees, two deals that escaped my mind when I talked about how teams never trade big stars within the division.
However, neither of those deals make me change my mind about J.P. Ricciardi dealing Halladay to the Yankees or Red Sox.
The Yankees sent Jason Jarvis, Mike Gordon and Marty Janzen to the Jays for Cone, who was headed for free agency at the end of that 1995 season. It’s hard to believe that’s all Toronto got for Cone, but don’t forget that he had only been in Toronto for three months when they traded him. He wasn’t the institution that Halladay is. Still, they should have gotten much more for him.
It should also be noted that this took place just months after the 1994 strike, and Cone’s $8 million salary was second-highest in the American League, so the Jays were probably happy enough to dump the free-agent-to-be once they were out of the race. Halladay is signed for another year, so there isn’t the same desperation to get rid of him.
As for Clemens, the Yankees traded a package led by David Wells to get the Rocket, who had requested a trade and left the Blue Jays with very limited options based on his no-trade clause. If you want to equate that to present-day, the Yankees would have to send Toronto a package led by A.J. Burnett to get Halladay. I’m pretty sure that won’t happen.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....mpara.html
I’d trade AJ Burnett for Halladay
Price right now is outpitching Halladay.
This is not a knock on AJ, but I would trade him for Halladay too. Of course this would not happen because it would defeat the purpose of trading the big contract
Radio version but I would like to get streaming if it’s out there?
http://player.cumulusstreaming.....ml?WKXP-FM
Thanks Pete.
jennifer-It’s 92.7FM in long island.
It’s under Alt Away Gameday Audio for today’s game:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/
Good luck Ace!!!
Well that was a quick first inning.
“Sin Miedo” arrives…
Aceves es su nombre…
Fearless of the Twins…
Liriano threw 16 pitches
As much as AJ’s grown on me, I, too, would trade him for Halladay. Hypothetically.
I guess the Twins don’t know Aceves is on a pitch count. That was aggressive swinging
I stopped by to say hello to you and you threw a french fry at me.
Aceves doesn’t have it today. Missed the strike zone on three pitches and got hit hard by Span and Tolbert. Posada needs to get his head in the game or he won’t be around long.
Does anyone know how Optimum Users can watch these games online??
I know they have been advertising it alot lately.
But what ssite do I go to??
mauer is just insanity
We should just give Joe M. first base every time he comes up to bat.
Dr Cox-
Go to Yankees.com. There is a giant link on the homepage
dr cox. I think you have to subscribe. That is addition to having cable, and internet service.
Dr. Cox:
http://wwwyankees-on-yes-in-ma.....bMEDIAWALL
GreenBeret7
July 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Aceves doesn’t have it today. Missed the strike zone on three pitches and got hit hard by Span and Tolbert. Posada needs to get his head in the game or he won’t be around long.
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it’s really a good thing you’re not the Yankees pitching coach or manager…
http://wwwyankees-on-yes-in-ma.....bID=CV1002
Yep
it is a scam hatched by cablevision and the Yankees. Why spend $50 bucks when you can spend a little more and get every single game through mlb.com?
15 pitches for ace…solid
15 pitches for Alfredo sauce
We need to score some runs, like pronto.
The only bad scenario re: the Yankees and the Halladay stuff is if he ends up in Boston.
Every other scenario works for the Yankees.
15 pitches in the first is going to make that complete game shutout everyone was expecting very difficult
MG
July 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
GreenBeret7
July 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Aceves doesn’t have it today. Missed the strike zone on three pitches and got hit hard by Span and Tolbert. Posada needs to get his head in the game or he won’t be around long.
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it’s really a good thing you’re not the Yankees pitching coach or manager…
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Ahhh…but, I am. I’m texting from the dugout.
First inning important, now can breath ace
relax a little, Liriano opposing BA is .187 the first time through the line up, .318 the second time.
Top of their order,only 16 pitches ,new pitcher,I’ll take it.
AJ Burnett would never be traded for Halladay and that’s not what JP is looking for.
Hughes or Chamberlain would be going back if its the Yankees.
Buchholz would be going back if its Boston.
Anything less than that? Neither team gets him.
“I guess the Twins don’t know Aceves is on a pitch count. That was aggressive swinging”
1. He’s throwing strikes so they have to swing
2. Not sure if they should be in a hurry to get to the Yanks’ BP…
Well if Boston gets Halladay they will have to give up a boat load and at the end of 2010 they will have to pay both Beckett and Halladay. I don’t see them doing that.
Suzy still can’t get her head out of her butt. Calling Girardi Torre.
I would think generally, the sooner you get to those middle relief guys the better. That usually holds true with any team. The real high end guys pitch innings 7-9, but you can get the opposing starter out in the 4th or 5th you have a better shot at an average long guy
Suzy=worst color announcer of all time plus easily the most annoying…
Surprisingly, that walk puts Rodriguez within 8 of the league leader.
Sorry ACE HAD 15 PITCHES,Liriano had 16!
it’s really a good thing you’re not the Yankees pitching coach or manager…
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Ahhh…but, I am. I’m texting from the dugout.
good thing I can’t watch the game today. Those on field microphones might pick up GB snoring during his afternoon nap.
GreenBeret7
July 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Surprisingly, that walk puts Rodriguez within 8 of the league leader.
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Not that surprising. How many times did we see A-Rod IBB’ed to get to Cano?
“I would think generally, the sooner you get to those middle relief guys the better. That usually holds true with any team. The real high end guys pitch innings 7-9, but you can get the opposing starter out in the 4th or 5th you have a better shot at an average long guy”
I really do get that…I was just talkin a little smack on behalf of our pen since they’ve been so dominant…of course a big part of that is now starting this game…
GB, nice to see you have a sense of humor, good retort.
Nice to see Rodriguez run. Hopefully, he’ll run a little more in the second half.
if Cano goes yard here can we have a moratorium on his failures with RISP? Not that it will happen, just commenting.
if Ace doesn’t have it, then Liriano REALLY doesn’t have it…based on this inning so far it looks like Liriano’s the one who should be worried about his pitch count.
“I really do get that…I was just talkin a little smack on behalf of our pen since they’ve been so dominant…of course a big part of that is now starting this game…”
Oh, well that’s a horse of a different color. I can talk smack too. Our bullpen can beat your bullpen up!
Would that have been a dp?
womp womp tolbert
MG
July 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
GB, nice to see you have a sense of humor, good retort.
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Blaming Posada and the catcher for everything the pitcher does has been a running joke on here most of the season.
Big Inning on the horizon!
gotcha, yeah, Posada just stinks and can’t hit, how could he have had such a good career.
GB Jorge is such an awful catcher, look what he did to Lirano!
Liriano on the ropes early.
Uh-Oh Cano lucks out.
I smell double
Somebody needs to teach Cabrera how to spit without getting it on his chin.
Melky so anxious for hitting w/ basesloaded that he was salivating a bit too much
Cano’s wasn’t going to be a DP even if Tolbert fields it cleanly, he was going to his left.
I couldn’t be less productive with this game on today
or not
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
my gameday wont load and i dont have a radio…so are arod jorge and robbie all on base?
my gameday wont load and i dont have a radio…so are arod jorge and robbie all on base?
damn melky…needed gardner on third for that
The Minnesota OPPC group would rightly point out – Liriano still has a no hitter.
Oh god I forgot Cody Ransom is batting today.
Wow Melk failed on that one.
DP?
Cody is up! looks grim
Ransom ahead of Gardner?
The Minny OPPC people are so annoying. I hate those cheerful idiots
will he demand the hansom ransom?
Is there a link where I can listen to the game online?
Much appreciated.
comeon cody, fly ball
Liriano’s pitch count is getting up there – so that’s a good sign
Liriano goes from 0-2 to 3-2 with the bases loaded.
Sound like anyone else we know?
Thank god !
Great AB by ransom.
wow very exceptional ab cody
That was handsome, Ransom.
thank you for somehow getting an RBI, ransom, whom i have absolutely no faith in.
Liriano is really afraid to pitch to contact, he’s one hit away from possibly being out of the game.
Did Cody even swing the bat?
My grandma could of strike out Randsom with a braking ball. Horrible job by Liriano
woot woot for us 
Ransom = THAT GOOD. =P
The RWI!
Melky needed some peanuts to soak that spit up.
Gameday’s faster than the radio.
Good AB Cody. Way to pass the baton.
Liriano @ 45 pitches
At least he still has a no-hitter.
Great AB by Cody. Go from 0-2 to the walk and not chase a couple of those pitches out of the zone.
Good plate discipline.
Melky : SS-DD.
Not sure if it’s blackout-restricted or not, but if you go to yankees.com you can stream the game for free (or at least get a free preview..I’ve been streaming for about 10 minutes now).
Just thought everyone working would want to be able to see their Yankees live!
DT – OPPC member (it’s in our blood)
July 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Liriano goes from 0-2 to 3-2 with the bases loaded.
Sound like anyone else we know?
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LMAOL……that would be JOBA!!! Mr. “The Hitters did a great Job.”
“Great AB by ransom.”
Was actually lucky, thank god he didn’t K is all I can say.
Liriano is Oli perez like today.
An okay at bat a bum would of walked.
NYY626
July 9th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
my gameday wont load and i dont have a radio…so are arod jorge and robbie all on base?
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You can get radio feed here
http://www.freebaseballradio.com/NYyankees.html
If it wasn’t Posada on third base, I might think about a bunt for a hit, right about now.
How much is he missing by??
Could I work a walk against Liriano right now??
Pitch 50 coming up…
you can listen to the game here..
http://player.cumulusstreaming.....ml?WKXP-FM
John Sterling:
It hit him. No, it hit the bat. What did it hit??
that was ball four
John Sterling is going to drive me to drink….
2-1 pitch to Gardner.
It hit him.
Wow. That’s a run.
No wait. It didn’t hit him.
(Confused silence.)
It.. It… It hit the bat.
Great at-bat for Cody.
Erica, he’s missing low for the most part, the ball hit Gardner’s bat
good job Gardenhoser
good job gardner
good enough
No hitter gone.. LOL
John Sterling:
It hit him. No, it hit the bat. What did it hit??
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Erica, you shouldn’t make fun of blind people.
nice jeter!!
Hey look, a hit!
the captain shows you how it’s done!!!!!!!
Talk about an inning filled with luck and bad pitching.
Damn. There goes the no-no.
I guess Liriano’s stats hold-.000 BA against him 1st time around, now 1.000 the 2nd. lol
Just 2 years ago, Liriano was just about as close to unhittable as there was….
Gadner should steal home
Ace is going to get tired……. of sitting around!
come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
We lead 2-0, yet no rbi hits.
damn how the hell didn’t they throw to 2nd there ?
For everyone asking for radio streaming:
Try Yankees.com and see if it lets you stream the game (video included) for free..It’s working for me. It’s supposedly a free preview, but they haven’t cut me off yet.
Let me know if it works for you guys
what’s with the umps positioning themselves out of the view of the plays?
tards
I like that effort. I don’t mind he got thrown out
Too tricky for their own good.
aggressive call there…twins were not fooled one bit tho
That would be a good move to try on a first baseman like Giambi or Millar, not Morneau.
the play didn’t work but that’s because Morneau made a great play, he didn’t even look at Jeter. If he hesitates at all Gardner has a good chance to score.
when did Gardner break on that throw to first. From the looks of where he ended up it looked like a late break. Too bad the camera man wasn’t playing first.
What do you call that play?
Only listening. Liriano went to first? Morneau home?
I’d like to know if that was a planned play or if Jeter made an error in judgement. Still, why no slide, Gardner?
Pat M,
He’s never gotten the feel back for pitching after the TJ Surgery.
IIRC, it was his second surgery. I believe he also had TJ Surgery when he was in the Giants system.
His stuff isn’t as electric as it used to be.
55 pitches after two and you can see how much he is sweating out there. He’s working too hard this early in the game to last a long time at this pace.
I’ve come to the conclusion it’s not really John Sterling.
It is Rizzuto’s old pal, Eddie Lucas, doing a darn good Sterling voice impersonation.
Morneau is a heads-up guy, not the best guy to try that on.
oh come on with this
Thank you Liriano for the walked in run,and the other 2!
0-2 pitches should never turn into homeruns. Aceves knows better.
Cant’ give up a HR on an 0-2 pitch. That got way too much of the plate.
Bad job there by Aceves.
0-2 HR?
better settle down, “ACE”.
settle down ace
Didn’t the Yankees try the same kind of thing on Mauer earlier in the season? Joe never tries this stuff against the schlubs of the league but he has no problem trying to fool future HOFers?
GB,
That was a planned play. Morneau did a nice job or that’s another run. Good time to try the play, IMO.
quick, everyone pile on ACE!! You SUCK WOOHOOO!
ugh…
aceves with his best liriano impression
Ace walks someone!
Homer and walk to start this inning. Not the way they drew it up.
Hopefully, he can settle down here.
I hope the Yankees put Aceves back in the bullpen after today. He’s much more valuable there.
being a starting pitcher sure is different than being a reliever
Get it together Alfredo sauce
SJ44
July 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
GB,
That was a planned play. Morneau did a nice job or that’s another run. Good time to try the play, IMO.
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I thought it might be, given that Jeter wasn’t really tearing it down the line. Ugly start to this inning. 0-2 homer and a walk.
Bad mistakes this inning.
What’s up with Aceves?
Does Tomko pitch after Ace?
wow he lost his marbles.
Aceves is unraveling this inning. Hard to understand why.
Can’t fall apart after giving up a HR to Kugel. He’s got to be better than that.
This is also why I wanted to use Nova instead. We lose Aceves for 5 days in the BP in a tough Angels series
What’s the deal with this team and RISP? I’m following on Gameday but Jeez.
ace has completely lost the strike zone
in case people dont know…this is ace’s first start of the year and hes not infallible…atleast not that i know of?
The online feed is faster than the TV feed. By half a second. Still don’t understand why anyone would subscribe if they SUBSCRIBE to YES!
Cody looks lost out there lol
“What’s the deal with this team and RISP? I’m following on Gameday but Jeez.”
what team?
for all you know Nova would have given up 5 runs in 2 1/3 today, if Aceves pitches 5 innings with 2 runs it’s fine, it is his 1st start this year.
Aceves is more valuable as the fifth starter than he is in the bullpen.
He has the type of stuff that can give them above average numbers in that slot.
Its why this is an important start for him.
If he can get the job done, its one less issue the Yankees have to deal with after the ASB.
I don’t know if someone posted this earlier, but Baseball America’s Midseason Top 25 Prospects has Montero at #3. Only Jason Heyward (OF) of the Braves and Mike Stanton (OF) of the Marlins are ranked higher.
I HATE RANSOM!!!
Ouch!
Yeah, let’s send Pena down because he’s not as solid at 3rd base…
Cody
Cody
We’ll see his fortitude right now
pathetic
dreadful
Brandon, with the ASB break coming up, AJ can pitch on Sunday if needed.
It’s official, Ransom sucks…
whatever youve been saying about angel berroa really applies to ransom as well, terrible player
wow..that’s a really bad play from ransom and it’s not his first one
bad job cody…bad job
Not so handsome ransom
Can’t stay in the major leagues and not be able to make that play. A horrific play by Ransom and they put the Twins right back in the game.
Awful baseball all around.
Pena we miss you
I thought Randsom was suppose to be a defensive guru
give it right back, guys.
he may not be able to hit…but at least he can play de….oh
Can someone please tell me why the hell ransom is on the team and not pena? forget hitting — ransom is a TERRIBLE fielder.
And to think Brian Cashman had the base “balls” to say that cody was better 3b than arod?????
Thyre playing like they have already won the series.
please come back Ramiro
Pena deserves to be on the team so much more than Ransom.
Pat M.
July 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Just 2 years ago, Liriano was just about as close to unhittable as there was….
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Him and Carmona were both brutal on us and now???
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
What is the purpose in carrying Ransom on this team?
He can’t hit, he’s atrocious in the field, and he costs us big time both at the plate and in the field. No major league team should carry a player like this, period. Even if A-Rod is DH’ing, you have to play someone like Hinske at 3B.
Ace should be in the dugout with a 3-1 lead.
Ramiro Pena makes that play.
should be 3-1 now inning over..but thanks ransom…he knows how to hurt yankee starters like no other!
Ransom = Berroa
How can Hinske be any worse at Ransom? How? He’ll have less range but at least the balls he doesn’t get to he can’t airmail it to 1B and give up 2 bases instead of 1.
Hey Cody, I bought a one-way ticket to Nowhere on Air France for you.
Hurry up, buddy, your flight is boarding.
bring de Caster!haha
Aceves pitch count at 35 and rising
A lot has changed since Ransom’s RBI walk.
I understand wanting Pena to get more AB’s and improve at other positions. But with Arod needing a day per week, you can’t afford an error per game from Ransom.
Pena can get AB’s during winter league.
Seriously all those who said Ransom would be better for the team then Arod at the start of the year, please stand up.
Just don’t understand why with all the minor league possibilities the Yankees have for a veteran utility guy, Cody Ransom is the guy they chose.
In Georges day Ransom would be gone before they get to the airport and Pena would meet them in LA.
Ransom is a butcher, and the Yanks send the young promising guy down!
Second run should be unearned, but, it hurts just the same.
“Ramiro Pena makes that play.”
Eric Hinske makes that play.
Matt’s here to complain about an error.
I’m shocked!
The Twins gave away runs in the top half of the inning with a bad error and the Yankees gave away runs with bad errors this inning.
Both teams have stunk so far.
Must have been a late night with Prince in Minny.
Eagle Eye Ransom gave the Yanks a bases loaded walk. No one was calling for his head then….. but hey .. that was a whole 15 minutes ago.
Ransom is such a terrible player. There’s a reason why he’s been in the minor leagues for his entire career.
Get the hell off my team Cody, you suck.
This is why I told peopl chill w/ the 15 game winner stuff when it comes to Ace, he’s very very good out of the BP.
looks like the Minnesota hitters have a plan and its working
take vs. aceves
40 pitches for Ace
nice job pitching out of trouble by Aceves.
strikes?
nuh uh!
you think that 65 pitch count is hard? no give in it?
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 9th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
“Ramiro Pena makes that play.”
Eric Hinske makes that play.
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Erica makes that play
(I didn’t see it or anything, but I can guess)
I took a long lunch today thinking the game started at 2 PM since the other games started at 8.
The Twins start their day games at noon? No one told me. LOL.
Will any of you kick Cody Ransoms butt so hard he’s on the fly all the way to Staten Island and the A team there?
Or can I have the honour??
I think Ace gets through 4.
Aceves is as much to blame for that inning as Ransom was. Without the walk and error on the pickoff, that inning never happens.
yankees.com free live feed preview just ended for me.
Brandon, based on the two innings so far, what has Aceves done that is any different than any other starting pitcher? He’s made one bad pitch, made a bad pick off throw, and had an error behind him that cost a run.
What was Cashman smoking when he said Ransom is probably better defensively then Arod?
He is a joke in the field. I saw enough of him in April.
The issue isn’t keeping Pena. He needs to play everyday and some of you have short memories. He also didn’t play that well at third.
The issue is getting Hinske ready to play third base because Cody just can’t play the position.
We saw this in April when Arod was out. He’s just not able to play third base at any competent level.
That’s why you have Hinske. Mick Kelleher has to get him ready because he’s going to have to play more third than OF in NY.
How does Aceves have 2 Earned runs? The only reason that last run scored was because of Ransoms throwing error? Are they assuming that the runner scores from second on a routine grounder to 3B?
Just awful. Is there anything worse than a .200 hitting backup making a crucial error in 2 straight games?
Especially when it forces the starting pitcher, who’s on a severe pitch count, to throw extra pitches.
Couldn’t Hinske play an equally good 3B?? We’d have the benefit of having his bat in the lineup. Ransom is a waste of space.
1 pitch, 1 out = me
Eagle Eye Ransom gave the Yanks a bases loaded walk. No one was calling for his head then….. but hey .. that was a whole 15 minutes ago.
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My grandma would of walked with the pitches Liriano was pitching. Its just the case that Randsom is a really bad hitter, and can’t make routine plays at the plate. with the way he hits he should be the greatest 3rd basemen ever!
Oh yeah miggs, because it clearly is acceptable for a major league third baseman to throw away a ROUTINE out with a backup catcher running down the line.
The truth is the truth, regardless of whether you’re too scared to face it.
Ransom has earned nothing this season, it’s incredible that Girardi continues to give him starts. He hit .200 before the injury with no production and even worse since. He was awful in the field before the injury, and even worse since. Yet, because he was good LAST YEAR and his “boy,” he gets to play over Hinske, a far more talented, MAJOR LEAGUE quality player. Incredible!
“How does Cody Ransom just automatically get that job back from Ramiro Pena?”
They were afraid of losing him to waivers, my thoughts are like I give a …. I’d rather put Eric Duncan out there.
For those still ragging on Pena, kid needs PT, that’s about it.
That said, I’d rather have Hinske in the field than Ransom.
>Eagle Eye Ransom gave the Yanks a bases loaded walk.
>No one was calling for his head then…
>but hey… that was a whole 15 minutes ago
If you laid a bat on Stephen Hawking’s lap and wheeled him into the batters box, he could’ve worked a walk against Liriano last inning.
“you think that 65 pitch count is hard? no give in it?”
Looked like he lost a couple MPH of the heater last inning to me. He’s hasn’t thrown more than 50 pitches in over 2 months. I’d assume the 65 is hard.
And you have Swisher, the guy who is suppose to work counts, making another out swinging at the first pitch.
Leading Girardi and Long to wonder, “why”.
The guy can be infuriating to manage because there is no logical pattern to his approach many times.
isn’t it all about the yankees winning ball games, so if that is the goal pena should be on the big team – who gives a flying fig about him getting at bats and learning to play the outfield – he’ll get his chance to hit and shag flies from november to march…ransom needs to be DFA’d as soon as he walks into the dugout after this inning…
The yanks were kind of giving this game away before it started. Having a starter with a 65 pitch limit, is saying…4 innings and then pray.
I say after the break. Bring up a “starter” and keep Aceves in the bullpen, where he works the best.
Why does it seem like the Yankees always go down quietly right after their pitcher has a tough inning?
he doesnt he has 1 er, Rayn
By no means am I knocking Aceves or the “luck” he is havings but why not leave him in the pen and bring up a AAA guy till Wang is back. I mean really….what does Joe and Brian think sometimes!!! Am I crazy or negative…
arod….make it 4-2 please.
Ransom should not be here any more. A backup that cannot field or hit at all should just go home. It is too easy to find a replacement that can do one of these.
Game. Blouses.
The Yanks bailed out the wrong pitcher.
6 pitch inning?
Usually when Joe G. gives a pitch count he’s taken the pitcher out BEFORE he hits that number, at least so far this year especially with Wang.
If that’s the case we’re going to need 6 innings from the pen today. I’m guessing Robertson is the first guy out. No reason to use Tomko in a close game, we’ve been over this before.
Hopefully Ace has a quick 3rd and Joe lets him start the 4th. Especially with the master of the 100 pitch-4 inning outing Joba Chamberlain going tomorrow.
I don’t understand why Hinske isn’t playing . .Why did we make that trade ! . He can’t be anyworse than Ransom at third.
Ransom is just Horrible with the glove !
“Why does it seem like the Yankees always go down quietly right after their pitcher has a tough inning?”
because they are a pathetic bunch of overpaid freaks that have no fire and no heart….they are content with just padding their stats and nothing else…
oh wait…thats not true…they have the 3rd best record in baseball…my mistake
*sarcasm much intended*
“By no means am I knocking Aceves or the “luck” he is havings but why not leave him in the pen and bring up a AAA guy till Wang is back. I mean really….what does Joe and Brian think sometimes!!! Am I crazy or negative…”
No, you’re just trying to capitalize on Aceves having a bad inning. Give the guy a chance, it’s very early in the game.
great, lets let them back in the game by leting Liriano have 3- 9 pitch innings…
SJ44,
It’s absurd to expect Swisher to work the pitcher every time up. If you see a good pitch to hit, SWING. It’s not that hard to figure out a batter’s approach.
Six pitches. Wow. Just wow.
It’s like the hitters didn’t even pay attention to the last inning.
Weak outing so far by the bats, Liriano is on the fence you must finish him!
They must have changed the box score because when I checked it said: 2 R , 2 ER
“If you laid a bat on Stephen Hawking’s lap and wheeled him into the batters box, he could’ve worked a walk against Liriano last inning.”
LOL… ok, well I’ll give him until the 5th inning until the guillotine comes on the field.
We could feed him to the Tigers, but we are in the wrong city.
I’d gladly lose Ransom to waivers, he’s an awful major league player who is far below average at everything he does. What team in this league would even claim him though from us even if we did put him on waivers? He’d probably easily make it through and go back to AAA.
A quick inning here for Ace would be nice.
“That might be true… But Aceves has been an AWESOME contributor for this team and is a very valuable member of that bullpen”
Think we may be spending a good chunk of the afternoon and the next couple games getting a full appreciation of just how valuable a member of the bullpen he’s truly been.
I don’t understand why the Yankees are wasting time sending Pena to AAA. To get him more ABs? He’ll be up in September anyway. Sporadic playing time against major league pitchers will do him more good than facing the likes of Igawa and Sergio Mitre for two months.
And I get that they want him to learn OF to make him more versatile, but for this season there’s no need. We already have 5 OFers. He can learn the position in the offseason and next ST.
Right now he has two tools we could really use. Defense and speed. Ransom has no tools.
OMG…mauer didnt get a hit?
Ace got out God nice job!
that changeup is so good
that was a really good job on Mauer, you have to appreciate Aceves’ making the best hitter in baseball right now look pretty bad.
Hey, at least that error didn’t lead directly to five runs (like his last one).
Somewhere there’s a SF Giants fan who looks at the Yankee box score and says to himself, “There’s no way in hell that’s the same Cody Ransom that stunk for us. The Yankees aren’t that stupid.”
So nice of the Yankees to make it easier on Liriano this inning.
Nice bounce back inning for Aceves.
Good inning for Ace
good inning by aceves.
sigh of relief
RS they prbly want to close out games w/
El Nino in LF
Gardenhoser in CF
Melk in RF
52 pitches for Aceves
good inning ace…people would be thinking much higher of him if it was still 3-1
SJ, you got your wish, a quick pitch inning with both Mauer and Morneau batting.
Patrick,
Liriano isn’t throwing strikes and Swisher has Tex and Arod at the plate. He’s also not a good hitter.
You work counts to get on base in front of the boppers.
He’s not good enough to be swinging at first pitches and expect good results.
I know you love Swisher and think he can do no wrong.
However, when a guy has 56 pitches in after 2, and your strength is working counts, you work counts.
if anyone picks up ransom off waivers i’d feel really sorry for them because it means they literally have little leaguers on that team…heck even a little league team wouldn’t pick ransom up…DFA him and in a week he’ll be back in scranton – where i’m positive he still has a fully furnished apartment there waiting for him…
I would hope he at least goes back out to start the 4th
Could Matt and “the Craigster” be the same person?
has Tex and Arod **behind** him in the order. Sorry for the typo.
Ace doin’ good work.
Hokie,
My main questions is why did the Yanks not just bring up a AAA pitcher? Segrio or Igawa…I know they are not studs but come one! Let them start and then have Aceves ready! Why change something that is working!
just for the record, Aceves threw 70 pitches in his first appearance against the Sox this year. And, as Al Leiter says, it isn’t how many pitches, it how those pitches are thrown-that inning couldn’t have been easier in terms of effort. If he does it again in the 4th he’ll most likely pitch the 5th, managers always want to give the starter a chance to win a game.
“people would be thinking much higher of him if it was still 3-1″
He had a tough inning but he was able to get out without giving up the lead and he didn’t completely fold. I’ll give him credit for that and still think highly of him.
“I would hope he at least goes back out to start the 4th”
No reason not to send him out there for one more. One more 15 or pitch innning and call it a day.
Cody “The Butcher” Ransom
* 15 or SO pitch inning
good job legging that out, jorge!
Great Hustle Jorge !
alright Posada!
Cano is getting hot w/RISP.
Cano!
Where is Trisha when the OPPC needs her? Someone needs to have Ransom’s back.
Ok, I’ll do it. Ransom will come up with a big hit today. You heard it here first. (and last, and for the only time all day)
If he doesn’t – I’ll make a contribution to the John Sterling School For the Blind. Helping some young visually impaired broadcaster make their dream come true – Work alongside the lovely Suzyn Waldman.
Robbie Cano DUNCHO KNOW !
good job cano!
wake up!
nice jorge and cano!! get runs!
Josh, I was for them giving Igawa a shot mainly because I didn’t want to mess with the pen seeing as it’s been so good. But even when Wang comes back the starting pitching has been the biggest question mark so far this season so seeing what Ace can do is not a bad idea. And that one inning is not evidence enough to me that they made the wrong decision. I’ll have to see how the next couple days play out for the BP before reaching that conclusion.
The bottom of our lineup keeps getting tested. No we have a DP-proof setup.
Another double for Cano as he marches towards 200 hits for the year.
Some of you “fans” don’t know what you have.
“He’s not good enough to be swinging at first pitches and expect good results.
I know you love Swisher and think he can do no wrong.”
Yeah, way to put words in my mouth. I’m not really a fan of his, it’s just troubling how much you and some others dislike him and think he’s terrible.
It’s a bit odd that you criticize Swisher for swinging at the first pitch when the other batters in the inning didn’t do any better.
You criticize Swisher for having a low BA and all OBP but when he swings at a good pitch you criticize him too?
I’m just sick of the nonstop Swisher hate on this blog
Cano is an RBI machine!!!
Robi doesn’t hit w/ RISP he is the RISP
Infield single 2 days in a row for Jorgie?
Did you guys see Fielder leg out an infield single yesterday?
And there was an unbelievable behind the back flip to first by the mets, too.
come on melky…eat your wheaties
Melky Cabrera up to stall another rally, go get ‘em Melk!
damn that sucks w/ Cody next.
Let’s see if Cody the great can make up for his blunder.
Bad day for the Milk man
this is called baseball
Time for Ransom to make up for his error.
atone! I want some crow.
HBP please !!! HBP !
“What was Cashman smoking when he said Ransom is probably better defensively then Arod?”
first rule of the blog:
cashman is always right
even when he’s wrong.
That’s twice Melk has failed.
Ransom’s redemption????
Tim Timmons has the coolest ump name.
Ransom Rocks!
I am sitting at my desk eating ices and I just dropped a giant chunk on the floor. I am so sad now
He’s hitting second in the order to work counts. That’s what you do in that slot. Especially against a guy who is having trouble throwing strikes.
Time for Ransom to attone here.
RANSOM ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey look, he got a hit!
Ransom base hit!
I’ll take that, still DFA him.
Great Job Ransom . Sorry about the bad comments !
Ok, Ransom has produced 2, given up 1, he’s atoned for his sin.
cody redeems melky
Okay, now we can start loving Ransom again
ransom is even on the day now lol…gave 1 up…put 1 in
ATONEMENT
Cody getting the run back.
cody pleading his case not to have his head chopped off after the 5th inning.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut lol
ransom – mvp!!! (just kidding he still sucks)
GGBG, tough to double up. Just don’t hit a popup.
by bad he is positive now…forgot the walk
Ransom buys another day on the roster….
Come on Brett, let’s expand the lead.
redemption for ransom lol
Good job Ransom! I knew he could do it.
if the Yankees score a couple more runs Girardi will have to physically restrain Aceves from going 5.
Ransom is still +1 today. Got the run back. Let’s go, Gardy.
and he is hansom again
Next time Damon swings at the first pitch I’ll see you complaining then?
Honestly, we both know this has nothing to do with Swisher swinging at the first pitch. It all has to do with your bias against Swish.
com’on Gardenhoser.
Go get ‘em, Melky !!!
…SS-DD…
Trade him now, Cash, trade him now !!!
nice gardy!
Gardenhoser !!!
We are unstoppable with RISP today
good job, gardy!
strong hit!!!!!!!!
Good Job Gardner ! .
GGBG is hot!
Sterling & Suzyn having fun at the ump’s expense. They can’t rely on his hand motion for the call.
double steal?
GGBG!
GGBG took the Milk mans milk today, THIEF!!!
Man I just love Brett Gardner, that dude is fun to watch
blow it open boyz
Liriano getting knocked around now.
I just got home and turned on the t.v. 5-2 Nice.
What’s wrong with a domed stadium is it always looks like a night game.
I don’t blame Minny for building an open-air stadium (but it should be like Seattle).
Gardner is on FIRE!
Anyone notice that he’s also striking out a LOT less frequently than he did when he first came up?
The offense has been very good in this series. They’ve been doing what we expected them to do all along, which is to grind out tough at bats and make pitchers pay for putting guys on.
These tack on runs are what breaks the opposing team’s back, especially when they’re already teetering on the edge of a sweep.
If Gardner learns to keep the ball on the ground he will be the most dangerous leadoff hitter in baseball.
this just in from the Yankees dugout: ‘Yankees manager Joe Girardi has disappeared, rumors have it that he has been bound and gagged by unknown player(s) for the next hour or until the 5th inning is completed’
As Pete posted earlier the Yanks had no K’s yesterday. I didn’t even realize it. Very impressive
I’d like to point out that there are exactly FOUR players in major league baseball with more hits this year than Cano.
3 of these 4 players hit 1st or 2nd in their respective lineups. Cano usually hits 5th-7th.
Just think about that for a second.
Mauer deserves a better team.
captain gidp
uh oh…now we go back to hating the yanks
RS…his comments from Pete’s recap make it sound like he’s gaining a lot of confidence and really getting a feel for how he should approach things. the kid is learning
can Jetes let him run first.
Go vote for the Sox to trade the farm for Halladay:
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....uld_y.html
You see, this is where Girardi gets lazy with Jeter. You have to hit and run with him in those situations. He’s too much of a DP threat because he hits everything on the ground.
Its a captain special double play. 2 runs though
Boo, Jeter. Don’t you know that Tomko will pitch today?
“Mauer deserves a better team.”
They are a good team you know.
So, I turned on the game on the radio when Minny as up and Ransom made an error. Then the said there were two errors that inning. Did Ransom make them both? And the throwing error – how bad?
Maybe Ransom isn’t the best choice to play 3rd. How much worse could Hinske be?
Jeter should change his name to Captain DP>
do any of you remember that Jeter singled to drive in a run the last time he batted?
Kevin Long is doing a great job with Gardner. His swing keeps getting better and better.
Last year, as well as earlier this year, he would jam himself against lefties and not make good contact at all.
Now, he gets the bat head out and is hitting the ball with much more authority.
He has been one of the best CF’s in the AL since Mid-May.
The kid has to play more because he’s a weapon.
Why not let Aceves go 70-80 pitches if he says he feels okay (and obviously if he performs)? He’ll have at least a week off, even more if he’s the 5th starter after the break.
“do any of you remember that Jeter singled to drive in a run the last time he batted?”
No – I go by the motto “what have you done for me lately”… and I have short term memory.
Silly question. But can the runners at first and second just stay in place when Cano & Jeter hit the ball to the infield?
Come on Ace.
GGBG with a rocket!
Oh Alfredo sauce, what’s going on here?
Is anyone warming up?
double play ball would be nice
Jays had the bases loaded with one out with Millar up to bat and 1 out. Of course he pops up and the Rays get out of the jam.
The kicker is that Millar, who truly has no value as a baseball player anymore, is batting cleanup today.
Awful. No wonder they can’t beat Tampa.
gardner should really work on his arm…
Dear Jebus,
Please tell Joe Girardi, “No Brett Tomko today.”
Sincerely,
Li’l Nubber
“Kevin Long is doing a great job with Gardner. His swing keeps getting better and better.”
Like I said, he’s been cutting back on strikeouts a lot this year. It’s very encouraging to see that he can make those adjustments.
When Gardner puts the ball in play, good things happen. It also helps that his patience and ability to work the count has translated well to the big leagues.
OK if Redmond hurts us here I don’t know what to say.
you know Gardenhoser can throw, they just need to teach him better mechanics. BTW we’re finding out why Ace isn’t a 15 win SP. Anyone want to start debating this again ?
Thanks to the miracle of baseball reference we can actually see what happens when Nick Swisher hits the first pitch. We don’t have to argue or call names.
He’s hitting .345.
Pretty decent.
DP would be huge here..
It’s time for Aceves to go, he’s given us all he can.
m,
It is a force at second, so no.
Jennifer and “M”,
Really? Really? I mean Really????? Their is something wrong with you two, first off Robbie Cano has 3 hits with risp in his last 4 abs. Second, “Captain DP” is one of the greatest yankees of all time, and one of the most clutch too. Watch what you say about DJ and Robbie.
Robertson is warming up miggs
“We don’t have to argue or call names.”
Hey now I don’t think we called each other names would we? I respect SJ44 too much to insult him, although we do disagree on the matter of Swisher.
“would we” should say “did we?”
wow
terrible. just terrible.
Wow – Aceves must be tired.
Girardi is asleep at the wheel once again. Aceves should have been pulled after the double.
Implosion alert.
Oh gosh. Redmond HBP and bases loaded.
Come on down Robertson
So much for that…
Does anyone know how the Tampa/Toronto game is being delayed?
Crap.
Robertson in with the bases loaded.
I know its only the 4th inning but this could be the game right here if DR can wiggle out of this jam.
bring in Robertson?
“He has been one of the best CF’s in the AL since Mid-May.
The kid has to play more because he’s a weapon.”
Funny isn’t it ?
BTW Ace should bodyslam Cody later.
Can we let Jeter hit for the other team here?
Miggs,
He’s a great hitter until there are RISP. Then, he is a poor hitter.
He has the second half to rectify it.
Its a shame Ace ran out of gas. Would have been nice to be able to handle a pretty bad bottom part of a batting order.
Uh, James, that was a joke.
Decent job by Aceves, hard to judge it because of the 65 pitch limit… he was definitely running out of gas towards the end
>OK if Redmond hurts us here I don’t know what to say.
A HA! Good thing “ACE” hurt him first!
With Wang pitching as poorly as he has this year, it seems like the Yankees get far fewer DP’s than they used to.
Pettitte can induce one every now and then, but Joba and CC are not groundball pitchers and AJ’s groundout ratio has been down this year. None of the relievers are groundball pitchers either.
How can a game in a dome be “delayed?”
mixed bag, but I still think it’s the right call.
How about Alby for a GIDP, Joe?
Mitre would have done a better job. Keep Ace in the pen.
funny how people on this blog the other day, were saying ACE could be a 20 game winner. LOL
“Girardi is asleep at the wheel once again. Aceves should have been pulled after the double.”
We won 2 out 3, this is a house money game.
And he was trying to get innings out of Ace. D-Rob needs the work.
Attention Yankees: we are pitching to Nick Punto. He is not good. Throw strikes. Thanks.
“funny how people on this blog the other day, were saying ACE could be a 20 game winner. LOL”
I kept telling them to chill about that.
We should have let Someone else start. If Ace can go 4. If he came in after 3-4 innings. He could have pitched the more important middle innings 4-7th
Wave,
A stat with no meaning. When you are hitting second in the order, with a guy struggling to throw strikes, swinging at the first pitch isn’t the right baseball play.
Something the stat sheet won’t tell you.
Game situations trump stats. In that particular game situation, given Liriano’s struggles and where Swisher is hitting in the order, baseball logic trumps the stat sheet.
Why doesn’t Posada try and frame those high pitches? Those pitches were called strikes the first two games of the series.
Come on Robertson.
Strikes Robertson! Strikes!
The weird thing about Cano is focusing on RISP isn’t quite right. The big dropoff comes between his hitting with the bases empty, and his hitting with men on. His hitting with RISP just seems to be a subset of the hitting with men on issue.
this is why they need another starting pitcher (or 2 depending on what joba does)..
here comes david veras….i mean robertson…
Strikes young man!
Sergio Mitre….
3-1 to Nick Punto = inexcusable.
break out the curve!
Now Robertson got his chance to prove what he can do in a high leverage situaition. If he can get out with one run, it will be a success.
“How can a game in a dome be “delayed?””
Don’t know, but ESPN has it tagged delayed.
nice k
WOW big comeback for D-ROB
BIG STRIKE OUT!
In time D-Rob can be a Saito type reliever, he just needs experience and more offseason work outs.
Nice bounceback from 3-1 to get the K. Of course, it was just Nick Punto.
Now you just can’t give up a hit.
OK SJ keep telling your self that the stats don’t matter.
I’ll be expecting more criticism from you when Damon swings at the first pitch next time he starts a game.
Espn’s gamecast had Robertson throwing 6 clear strikes that at bat to Punto but only the 1st and last 2 pitches were called strikes.
Anyone have a link to watch the game?
Ace lost 15 pitches due to the Ransom error.
He’s also starting his first game of the year.
He is still the best candidate to be the fifth starter if they decide to stretch him out, IMO.
1 more Robertson
“How can a game in a dome be “delayed?””
There’s a lighting problem so the game’s in a delay
The only person who Robertson has to blame when he pitches is himself. He doesn’t throw strikes against weak hitters, wow.
Let’s go D-Rob.
Matt
July 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
How can a game in a dome be “delayed?”
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Power outage.
WTH? 2 outs and you can’t throw a strike?
oh oh
damn..d-rob come on..throw strikes
Horrible decision to pitch Ace. Hes been very good. But the Yankees are facing the Angels next. They need the pen, especially with Joba the bum, now they need 6 2/3 innings from the pen. I hate to say this but after Robertson is done Tomko should pitch the rest of the game. Along with Albaladejo.
Frustrating me here Robertson……….
But then again, whose fault is it for bringing in the guy who is bad with runners on and has had control problems lately in a high leverage situation with the bases loaded?
WHAT IS ROBERTSON DOING!!!! 3 STRAIGHT BALLS IN THE SAME SPOT
Ace belongs in the pen, this year . next year we can strech him out, but please not in games that count
he lacks so much experience, you can tell.
he giveth, he taketh.
be afraid why dont ya
SJ44-
You’ve been going on and on about hitting with RISP, so don’t knock me for quoting stat sheets.
Nick is hitting .345 on the first pitch. He’s allowed to swing at it. He’s only hit the first pitch on 31 out of 324 PA’s, so it’s not like he can’t wait to swing at it.
Robertson is pretty brutal right now.
Gutless performance…
Robertson is so hit and miss. Walk, homerun, or strikeout is about all he gives up.
4 straight balls with the bases loaded. that is just embarrassing
God damn – you should be shot for walking a guy on 4 pitches with the bases loaded
Girardi sometimes makes moves based on his likes and dislikes of guys, but anyone in their right mind knows that Robertson pitches poorly with guys on and doesn’t throw strikes. So why would you bring in the guy who doesn’t throw strikes in a situation where he can walk in runs?
This is why I felt we should’ve called up Mitre or Igawa for this start. That way, when they gave you 3.1 innings, you bring in Aceves to bridge the gap in the bull pen. Now we’re relying on Robertson/Bruney to get the ball to Hughes and Mo. And the odds of us being snake bitten are high
And that folks is why David Robertson can’t be used in high leverage situations. He can’t throw the ball over the plate.
Go to Tomko here or this lead will be gone soon.
Robertson needs to go back to Scranton. He can’t throw enough strikes to stay in the majors.
God is up next throw strikes!!!
That’s turrible.
The game is not delayed.
I’m watching it right now.
Robertson can’t find the strike zone.
Hurry and get the next guy warmed up. The bloom has fell off the rose.
This is getting ridiculous. Walk this guy and you have to face Mauer.
Robertson has terrible control.
Robertson has a lad of potential….to be a good 7th-8th inning guy….or to be a career minor leaguer. He’s got to get his pitches under control.
cool robertson lets load the bases for the batting champ
my gosh David. Strikes!
Girardi is an idiot for bringing in Robertson in a spot like this when the whole world but him knew that this is the complete opposite of spots in which the guy succeeds. Just flat out blew it.
Robertson is odd. He has good stuff but lacks command. Walks was a problem with him in the minors.
Has he even thrown the curveball yet?
this is just a joke
Robertson has a ***load*** of potential
wow
These pitches are strikes.
now you have Aceves lost for the weekend. There is a very good chance Joba won’t give any length tomorrow. Bad idea to waste Aceves in a spot start.
15 pitches and 4 strikes
“Go to Tomko here or this lead will be gone soon.”
Funniest thing I’ve read all day.
ROBERTSON! I don’t want to see him again for a few days. He needs time to think.
Get him out of here, now.
Terrible job by Robertson but why the heck did he NEVER throw his curveball?
Waldman says Robertson is getting squeezed on the low strike. Those watching – was he ?
is BJ Ryan available?
OK, Robertson is getting squeezed here… he is throwing strikes
you walk a .200 hitter stop picking corners!!
Russell NY
July 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Can we let Jeter hit for the other team here?
____________________________________________________________I’m pretty confident twins fans would not be opposed to this.
ump squeezed the hell out of him during that ab…look at gameday..insane..hes still doing a bad job though
garbage.
walk in 2 consecutive runs to get to mauer.
good for you, robertson.
you deserve all the praise.
Balls 1, 3 and 4 were all strikes.
ugh…robertson
I wonder what goes on in D-Rob’s head when he pitches.
I mean walk the weak hitters to go against GOD in Minny.
So, when the Yanks need a reliever tomorrow, who comes up for Robertson because with Joba and Andy the next 2 days, the Yanks will need another reliever or two.
all the young yankee relievers are afraid to throw strikes. Sans Hughes.
Doesn’t help that this umpire blows
His strikezone is TINY
lets just walk everyone now
grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Staying too long with a guy who can’t throw the ball over the plate.
Bad job by Girardi putting a guy in the game who can’t throw strikes.
That’s how you blow comfortable leads.
Walk a .160 hitter with the bases loaded. Amazing.
If he leaves him in there, this kid will walk another 4-5 guys in a row.
THROW A GODDAMNED STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Epic fail by Robertson here. Girardi must realize that Robertson doesn’t do well in high-leverage situations.
Did he get squeezed with Spahn?
WOW. Wow Robertson. Hasn’t he been excellent lately? I’d throw every pitch down the middle against a .188 pitcher. Especially since Mauer is next.
Great back to back walks and now Mauer.
Posada really knows how to calm this kid down doesn’t he?
ARE YOU GONNA WALK IN ANOTHER RUN !
That first pitch to Mauer looked like a strike.
Wow, almost all of these are strikes according to Gameday.
1st pitch to Mauer is a strike
why is robertson still is this game???
Welcome to the world of common sense, something which eludes Joe Girardi on a daily basis.
Should we bring in the guy who throws strikes with the bases loaded to get out of the inning and THEN bring in Robertson, or bring in a guy who has control problems with the bases loaded, and THEN bring in our strike thrower?
Seriously, this guy just doesn’t have a clue sometimes. It’s amazing how he makes moves that just completely defy logic when the whole world knows they are going to backfire.
Robertson is on the verge of walking in 3 runs in this inning. THREE RUNS, with TWO OUTS. How can Girardi be this dumb?
Robertson has a solution. Walk Mauer to get to Morneau.
is it just me or are all these low pitches being called balls, when they should be strikes??
Huge moment in the game here.. come on Robertson!
mauer has to bail him out.
Robertson walks too many.
He needs some seasoning for control in AAA.
He will be sent down when they bring Mitre after the break.
Girardi is such a terrible manager.
He leaves Aceves in 2 batters too long and now he’s leaving Robertson in for too long.
Joe, WAKE UP YOU FOOL
I realize that most of you arent watching the game. But 4 of the pitches that were called balls were strikes. Not borderline strikes…but strikes. It’s BS.
I wasn’t worried
Squeezed or not, he’s got to throw the ball over the plate with Mauer on deck. Simply awful pitching by Robertson, and that should be his ticket back to Scranton.
“Robertson is odd. He has good stuff but lacks command. Walks was a problem with him in the minors.”
World’s full of those guys. Robertson fastball is nothing special but his good curve (when he’s on) makes it better than it is. As SJ says, he doesn’t throw enough strikes to be counted on in key spots at this level.
“Posada really knows how to calm this kid down doesn’t he?”
HAHAHAHA you idiot
good.
now don’t come back, robertson.
The worst decision was letting Aceves start.
This is the type of situation where he should be coming into the game, not leaving it.
Don’t blame Girardi for bringing in Robertson. Who else could he put in there? Tomko? Bruney? Albaladejo?
Right now, Coke and Hughes are the only relievers better than Robertson, and neither of them are going to come in in the 4th inning.
take a look at the pitch f/x for the last two batters. robertson is getting screwed on the lower half of the plate – both fastballs and curveballs.
amazing we are still winning…amazing
at least we escaped with the lead
Can’t get out Span and Tolbert, but gets Mauer. Go figure.
Oh we are gonna need a few more runs
DAMNIT robertson 2 bases loaded walks. Without ace out there, this bullpen now becomes horrible. what are they going to do bring in bruney?
if you are Girardi, who do you bring in with the bases full?
I really don’t get this kid
He can be a Tkashi Saito yet HE GETS HIMSELF INTO MORE TROUBLE WHEN HE’S AFRAID TO THROW STRIKES.
IDK why, when he throws strikes ppl miss, WHY DON’T YOU THROW STRIKES !!!!!
Pitch F/x has 5 balls called in the strike zone. Awful job by the boys in blue again.
Giving Aceves a spot start made absolutely no sense. He has been lights out from the pen and is in no way close to being able to give us innings today. It would make a ton more sense to call up a guy who actually can throw 100 pitches in a game than to burn the entire bullpen ahead of a tough west coast series.
I don’t care if the guy has “earned” it. He’s not stretched out to start. Should we give Mo a start too because he’s thrown 30 pitches in a game before?
Its not the strikezone, Robertson never throws strikes in high leverage situations.
If you need a big strikezone to throw strikes to Punto, Span and Tolbert, you belong in AAA.
He’s not a guy to use in close games because he’s not reliable.
Everybody loves young pitchers. But, young doesn’t mean good and he’s not good.
Walking in 2 runs there makes no sense and its not the umpires fault.
Need another arm who can throw strikes out of the pen after the ASB. Robertson ain’t that guy.
“Squeezed or not, he’s got to throw the ball over the plate with Mauer on deck. Simply awful pitching by Robertson, and that should be his ticket back to Scranton.”
you are not watching the game then..he is throwing them over the plate…they are very good pitches, you want him to lay one right down the middle for a home run??
Robertson needs to stay in the minor’s until he learns how to throw strikes
First of all, this umpire sucks. His zone changed drastically when Robertson came in the game. Several balls were, in fact, strikes.
HOWEVER, even with all of that, you absolutely cannot walk a .180 hitter with the bases loaded. That’s just pathetic.
I think Girardi has little bit of an idea that Robertson isn’t great in high leverage spots. because he’s been hesitant to use him in them.
but bringing him in with bases loaded 1 out made little sense. Bring him in a new inning with no one on.
SOMEONE’S GOING BACK TO SCRANTON…TIME TO BRING UP MELANCON.
This game was handed to us on a plate. We can’t seem to wait to hand it back. I can’t stand it.
Robertson needs to pitch one more inning. Then you pitch Albie for one and then you use Bruney, Coke, Hughes and Mo to get through the final 3 innings (just like a normal game).
“This is trouble with a capital T.”
Then why didn’t you spell Trouble with a capital T then, goofus?
Its just a joke to walk the kind of hitters he walked to force in 2 runs.
Time to knock Liriano out of the game
lol at “natural enemy of fish”
lol at “natural enemy of fish”
I think Aceves would have gotten out of that.
Exactly. How in the world could you have Aceves start and not call up a long reliever to piggyback with a guy who can only throw 65 pitches?
Not only did this guy start, but they have all short relievers to get through the next 5 innings of this game, or at least they will be when Girardi uses everyone for 3 outs a piece in their “roles.”
This should have been the spot where a long reliever came in and threw 2 or 3 innings and threw strikes to these guys with the bases loaded, maybe only giving up 1 run on say a sac fly rather than walking in a bunch of guys. Just a poor decision to start Aceves, and an even worse one to bring in a guy in Robertson who has trouble throwing strikes in a spot like that, where he has no room for error.
we’ll win this game, but it won’t be pretty…
Thank you Tex.
texxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
THANK YOU MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MARKY BABY!!!!!!!!!
RAISE MY SPIRITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who made the decision to start Aceves? Unless they are commited to starting him after all-star break, there is no advantage I can see.
MArky MARK!
its been a long time tex…thanks for coming to the party!
“Can’t get out Span and Tolbert, but gets Mauer. Go figure.”
Mauer swung at ball 3.
If you don’t think the ump has a terrible strikezone, go look at gameday.
hopefully this wakes him up
Tex gets one back!
FINALLY TEX!!
Wait a minute. Mark Teixeira hit…a home run!?
Wow Tex can hit homers
About damn time Tex Mex
Marky Mark!
lol, which field got the Tex message, Sterling?
It’s been a long time, Tex. Nice.
Brandon,
That’s why you don’t fall in love with prospects. They are just that……prospects.
Very few make it. For every one that does, there are 10 that don’t.
He doesn’t throw enough to ever be Saito.
You hope he can throw enough strikes to trade him for someone who can. That’s his only value to this team.
he was right on the mark with that tex message… doh!
Tex and A-Rod have to go back to back at least once this year. Now’s the time.
Tex bam!
“Mark sends a Tex message to right – I mean left center.”
Yeah, close there, John.
Tex 911, this one is down and out!
Now people can stop complaining how long it has been since Tex homered.
“You hope he can throw enough strikes to trade him for someone who can. That’s his only value to this team.”
You act as if I wouldn’t trade him
Is that the fake SJ44?
I walked away to get coffee and I missed the home run call!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!
Thats the only fun part of listening to John Sterling!
“lol, which field got the Tex message, Sterling?”
seriously. Left-center. Right-center. Which is it?
Does that man even know what building he is in?
I think he is drinking something stronger than Spring water!
Good afternoon Yankee fans, critics, and haters.
Just caught up via dvr (not Bit Torrent). Got a little tense there with D-Rob. I wish we had Aceves to come into the game now…
look at liriano’s results when he abandoned his fastball and only threw sliders and changeups. he made everybody look silly.
hey NICK- where do you DL yankee Bit Torrents?
Now, can Albie give them 2 innings? If he can, then you go Bruney (and hold your breath) in the 7th, Hughes in the 8th and Mo in the 9th.
You have to think Robertson will be back in Scranton after the ASB.
Tryout camp is over. You have to try someone else and see if they can find the strikezone.
Did he get squeezed>? When you show you can’t throw strikes, and he can’t, no umpire is giving you the close pitch.
Girardi is trying him in high leverage situations to see if he can hold up. Unfortunately, he can’t.
That means, time to go to Scranton.
Btw, this game should already cement Aceves’ status as a reliever.
If ANY starting pitcher leaves in the 4th or 5th inning with the bases loaded and the Yankees still have the lead, what reliever do you trust in that situation?
Robertson can be a useful reliever as long as he comes in with the bases empty and works himself out of his own jams.
Tomko is garbage. Bruney, like Robertson, doesn’t throw enough strikes for bases loaded jams. Coke is the only lefty, so you can’t waste him in the 5th inning. Hughes has no experience entering this much of a jam as a reliever, and is the 8th inning guy anyway.
Aceves was basically the only reliever you could bring in in the middle innings and trust that he would hold a lead (or hold the opponent down). Without him our middle relief is WEAK, with the likes of Robertson, Tomko, and Albaladejo.
It’s been a real pleasure listening to Kenny and Cone work the games this past week they really work well together and have added a lot of insight without unnecessary drama.
robertson, again?
less than pleased. but, whatever.
Pete – the next time your buddy Feinsand does the DN 5th inning on radio – ask him to check for small empty bottles on the floor….
A friend just emailed this and it made me smile. I had to share
The TD BankNorth Garden in Boston where we graduated is changing names yet again. They had this recap of all the names it went through and I came across this and thought you would enjoy this. I guess after it was the Fleet Center and before TD Bank bought it they auctioned off the rights to name the arena just for a day at a time…
A New York lawyer won single-day naming rights in an eBay auction with a bid of $2,325, and he wanted to call the arena the Derek Jeter Center to poke fun at a longtime Massachusetts associate. However, after the request ruffled enough feathers, the winning bid was raised to $8,600 and named the JimmyFundCenter for a day.
Too bad it didn’t really happen. Of course no Bostonian would have let it go through!
yup its the fake SJ44
confusing kid this D-Rob
Like I said, should have brought him in to start a fresh inning. He does his best work when he is not inheriting runners.
Look what happens when Robertson throws strikes… he gets K’s… c’mon man just challenge ‘em
Back to Robertson? Interesting strategy.
He missed the target by a foot and got the K of Morneay. lol
Maybe that’s the key with him. Don’t show him a target.
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No personal attacks, no swearing, etc. If you feel some childish need to insult me, man up and send me an e-mail instead of trying to post assorted nonsense here and disturbing the smart kids in the class.
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Yankees need to bring in Aceves d’oh!
I hope Jobber can go 6+ tomorrow.
Bullpen getting lotsa work today
If this performance doesn’t get him to Scranton, he’s got to have pictures on Girardi. That’s a Jose Veras-like performance once again by Robertson.
I wonder if JP would take him in a Halladay deal? lol
Thankfully Robertson is removed.
“girardi has seen enough”
im pretty sure everyone has seen enough thank you very much
“Robertson needs to pitch one more inning. Then you pitch Albie for one and then you use Bruney, Coke, Hughes and Mo to get through the final 3 innings (just like a normal game).”
And then you go into Anaheim with a worn out bullpen, while the Angels are enjoying a nice offday to get their guys rested for the upcoming series.
>It’s been a real pleasure listening to Kenny and Cone work
>the games this past week they really work well together and
>have added a lot of insight without unnecessary drama.
It really is. But, I don’t fault Kay for being provocative.
I actually like it.
Pretty horrible job by Robertson today. I mean the patience has to be wearing pretty thin on this guy, almost every time he comes in it’s ball 1 ball 2 and he’s walking people. I know he’s young but he has to at least stop bringing this guy in with runners on base. Very frustrating because he has good stuff.
IrishCarBomb: I don’t DL Yankee Bit Torrents; I was making a reference to your comment yesterday that no one needs a dvr because you can see everything via Bit Torrents.
I had stuff to do this morning so I dvr’d the beginning of the game and caught up when I got home. Get it?
By the way, if you’re ever in Belfast, I recommend the Black Taxi Troubles tour. Wild, wacky stuff.
Thank you Tex, my fantasy team thanks you today.
“Mr. Robertson, your flight for Scranton is now boarding, Mr. Robertson”
I’m thinking Melancon needs to come up for either Tomko or Robertson. Soon.
alba looks like joba from behind
I think we already relinquished the Angels series.
I see Tex hit a bomb, sweet.
You just hope Melancon can come back up soon and fill a role once Robertston is sent back down.
Pete:
No matter how many times you post that plea you know that that 1% pf those acting childish, their childish and cowardly behavior will continue. You’re just wasting your time.
The Ghost
July 9th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
It’s been a real pleasure listening to Kenny and Cone work the games this past week they really work well together and have added a lot of insight without unnecessary drama.
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Agreed. It’s been a nice break from Kay, or the clowning around when O’Neill is there.
Singy is awesome. The Yanks are fortunate to have him.
Why should Robertson have to alter the strikezone because the umpire doesn’t call proper strikes?
If you look at gameday you’ll see that the ump took away the entire bottom part of the strikezone. Are you guys saying he should have elevated his pitches (which pitchers are told not to do)?
Robertson should have realized that he wasn’t going to get that call but still, the umpire was and is TERRIBLE.
RS,
That’s not the case at all. He was on a pitch count because he wasn’t stretched out. He is a starter.
If he had 80-85 pitches in him, he stays in the game.
If they can stretch him out, he’s better for them in the back end of the bullpen.
At BEST, we could have hoped for 5 innings from him with a 65 pitch count. If Cody Ransom was a ML infielder, he would have gotten there easily and the Yankees would have a 6-1 lead right now.
He will be fine as a starter once stretched out. If that’s the way they choose to go, of course.
This game is not going to stay at 6-4. Disappointing outing by Aceves (just going by what I’ve heard – I haven’t been able to follow the game). The Yanks will have to have their hitting shoes on – and I’d love to see Phil throw a couple of innings here. It would be nice to get a sweep here…….
At this point, Robertson appears to be strictly mop-up….
KO Robertson will be a force the day he starts believing his stuff is nasty. I think he was thrown to the wolves one too many times last year and it shook his confidence.
This is a really strange game.
john
July 9th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
alba looks like joba from behind
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I don’t care if Joba Chamberlain looks like Neville Chamberlain from behind as long as he gets outs.
RS
July 9th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
“Robertson needs to pitch one more inning. Then you pitch Albie for one and then you use Bruney, Coke, Hughes and Mo to get through the final 3 innings (just like a normal game).”
And then you go into Anaheim with a worn out bullpen, while the Angels are enjoying a nice offday to get their guys rested for the upcoming series.
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Joba pitches CG??
One thing I noticed about Liriano, watching Gameday,all his pitches, whether FB, slider or change are all within 6 MPH of each other. He needs more speed variation if he’s ever going to be successful again.
Is anyone watching this game? How bad is the strike zone really? I am following it on gameday and am seeing a lot of first pitch balls.
Patrick, Robertson got screwed on two calls later on in his outing, after he had already became a wild man. There was a curve and a fastball he got screwed on. However, based on this ump’s strike zone, those other ones were NOT strikes. Liriano was not getting any of those either. Basically the whole bottom portion of the strike zone almost was out of play for both pitchers. This ump has been pretty consistent for both sides.
54 minutes left to do the right thing and vote for Pablo “Kung Fu Panda” Sandoval for the All-Star Game!
is it just me or every year do the yankees lead the league in walks from their offense, and they are usually near last in walks for their pitching
RS,
The only people who will be burned out are Ace, Robertson and Albie. The other relievers will pitch like a normal game.
Joba has to give them at least 6 tomorrow and they’ll be fine.
Kubel getting a workout on the basepaths..
The bullpen beats itself by walking weak hitters. Unbelievable.
Did Cody make another error? I’ve seen enough – I know the Yanks wanted Pena to be a super-sub, but the major league team comes first and Ransom is a terrible defensive player (not a good quality to have for a utility infielder). Joe likes the guy for some unknown reason, but I think Cash has to just override him and DFA him. I normally abhor GMs that constantly interfere with their managers, but there’s really no reason for Ransom to be on this team. He’s just not a ML player in any capacity.
quit walking poor hitters…thanks
Who cares if he’s consistent if he’s consistently bad? I hate umpires that arbitrarily decide to change the rules on the fly. The strikezone is the strikezone, get it right you fat blind fools!
in cody’s defense, that throw to first would have been a throw to 2nd without Ace’s error.
phew
and he did atone with the RBI
Coney sounds like he really really believes in Robertson.
Thank you Albealafgealleafaldfawedaelda dejo
It’s tough to sweep a good team but these are the kind of games great teams win because it’s similar to closing out a playoff series. That kind of “nail in the coffin” toughness is the kind a team needs to advance in October.
And I think Cone knows a heck of a lot more than all of us.
Patrick,
Every pitcher deals with umpires who are inconsistent behind the plate. You adjust.
When you are all over the place, you aren’t getting close calls.
This is not exactly new territory with him. Throwing strikes in high leverage situations has always been his weakness.
Girardi tried to see if he can trust him and he now has his answer.
Scranton is the place to learn how to throw strikes. Especially to bad hitters with the bases loaded.
I’d rather they give Melancon another shot than putting Robertson in these situations.
I think we’ll sweep the Angels.
Patrick,
Add the umps to your list of people you wanna punch, no?
Pat I agree but as long as he’s consistent for both sides, we could be way worse off…. gotta go enjoy the rest of the game guys, let’s hope we hold on for the sweep….
This is going to turn into a night game at this rate.
It takes a long time to walk so many batters. Very weird game.
I’m going to fangraph to check D-Rob’s stats when he hits the strikezone.
The 5th inning guillotine show featuring Cody Ransom has been momentarily postponed – of course if he strikes out in the 6th – he is a bum and the show is back on.
Robertson should be better than he is, even though he’s 24.
He has the talent to be a dominant late inning guy. His strikeout totals indicate that.
He has one problem – walks.
When you’re job is largely to get three or four outs that’s a titanic problem.
Robertson v. the umpires who wins?
The umpires have stunk all year.
If you need umpire help to pitch to Nick Punto and Matt Tolbert, especially with the bases loaded, you belong in Scranton and not NY.
Liriano cannot possibly be in this game for too much longer
that was ball 4
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The hardest thing to figure out is why aceves, Robertson and Albaladejo have been getting the big thumpers out but, can’t get the patchwork players out.
-Joaquin Andujar- “You can describe baseball in two words: You never know.”
nice crack melkman!
John Sterling:
(Excited) That pitch is LINED!!! It is Foul. No, it’s a FAIR BALL!
Ransom Vs. Knuckleball?
lol I gotta see this
I love it when the Yankees face the Twins. Actually, now I know how the Red Sox fans feel about facing the Yankees. =/
“He will be fine as a starter once stretched out. If that’s the way they choose to go, of course.”
I have no doubt that he’ll be a servicable starter. My concern right now is the bullpen. The Yankees already have two starters (Pettitte and Joba) who are 5-6 inning pitchers. That means if CC and/or Burnett ever have offdays (which will happen obviously) then the bullpen is fried.
Our middle relief right now is very weak. If a starter leaves before the 7th inning, you expect runs to be given up. Not only that, but the inability of guys to throw strikes leads to more relievers being burned each day. Aceves, as a reliever, could give you 2-3 innings easily and let the rest of the pen get a day off. Robertson can’t even give you 4 outs without giving up a run, and I wouldn’t trust Albaladejo to do any better.
you know w/ RISP here and Cody Ransom’s spot is up, now would be a nice time to PH Matsui-san or Hinske.
I know we (and the Yankees) want the sweep. But it was a good opportunity to “test” Robertson in a high leverage situation. They already taken the series, so if they end up losing, it’s not great, but it’s not the end of the world. And Girardi got his answer, I guess. He found out Robertson in high leverage situations is a crap shoot, or he found out Robertson can’t make adjustments to the umpire’s strike zone; or he found out that Robertson can’t pitch in a dome.
Has anyone been able to find these Yankee Turkey Hill ice creams in their grocery stores? I haven’t.
And at least they still have the lead.
Disappointed Aceves couldn’t make his 65 pitches last 5 innings. Again, how bad was Cody Ransom? I missed the beginning of the game. Should he ever get another chance to play 3rd? Because I think he’s made an error, or close to, in every game he’s played since coming back.
Erica,
He didn’t do that, did he?
He’s been worse than Robertson this year.
One guy can’t throw the ball over the plate and the other guy can’t see the ball. Not a good combination.
RANSOM!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU, BUDDY!
Does John Sterling have a coin he tosses in the air that says fair and foul on each side?
It’s Ransom time.
“John Sterling:
(Excited) That pitch is LINED!!! It is Foul. No, it’s a FAIR BALL!”
LOL
Doreen, Ransom is like most of his games. Some good, some bad. An error lets in a run, but, a bases loaded walk and an RBI single.
L O L
uh oh…. could be the green mile for Cody. He struck out.
I love wasting outs.
Sj44-
That was a direct quote
“Add the umps to your list of people you wanna punch, no?”
I want to punch you SOOOO much that there’s no room on my list for anyone else.
Doreen-
King Kullen has the Yankee Turkey Hill ice cream
GB7 =
Thanks. He is what he is, I guess.
RS,
Every team’s middle relief is weak.
Just call up Melancon. It doesn’t do much good to throw the guy 2+ innings every night in Scranton. He can do that in NY, and fill in the soft underbelly of the pen.
Nah I’d stick with Robertson, exchange Alba with Melancon. Send down Tomko for Mitre or someone else to throw long relief.
@Doreen: I will be a contrarian and say that I don’t think Girardi was thinking “well, we already clinched the series so, what the heck, let’s see what D-Rob can do here.” At this moment, I think Girardi wants to win this game as much as any other game. Big picture, 2 of 3 on the road is great, but you know the drill:
We play today, we win today… dassit!
Erica -
Is there a King Kullen in Long Island?
I live in NJ, no King Kullen nearby. My daughter goes to school in Central Islip. I’d never get it home, though!
at least jeter leads off the 7th
Lets go Bruney for the 6th, Hughes for 7 and 8, Mo 9
Melancon as a soft under belly isn’t a bad option.
Who thinks this game has a chance of ending by 5??
Gardner CANNOT hit knuckleballs
Why didn’t we pinch hit for him with Hinske?
Doreen-
Yes, there are a bunch of King Kullens around LI
John Sterling reminds me of the old crazy uncle who comes to your house at holidays and drives you nuts with his teasing and making stuff up.
I keep waiting for him to pull a quarter out of Suzyn’s ear.
Time to walk Punto…
Doreen
July 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
GB7 =
Thanks. He is what he is, I guess.
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That’s about it. Just when you think anyone could do better, he makes a sparking defensive play or ropes an extra base hit to drive in big runs.
IIRC, RA Dickey was a Texas HS fireballer who was a former first round pick.
If its the same guy, prior to signing his bonus deal, he underwent a physical and they found he had no elbow ligament in his pitching elbow. He was born without one.
The team (I think it was Texas) either pulled out of signing him or cut down the bonus dramatically.
He bounced around, met Phil Niekro and he taught him the knuckleball. I think its the same guy.
“Is there a King Kullen in Long Island?”
Right around the block from me, yea.
Can Hughes pitch 2 today?
Can Hughes pitch at all today?
Can Hughes help out his buddy Joba tomorrow?
Albie is a better pitcher than Robertson. Much better. Throws more strikes, has a sinker than can induce GB DP’s, and is a little more experienced.
mo
hughes
bruney
coke
robertson
melancon
aceves
what the hell is so frightening about tolbert?
really?
The strike zone has to be at least 2-3 inches smaller today.
very nice work alby
Rays sweep Jays and beat Halladay today 3-2. Two of Halladay’s 3 losses are to the Rays.
Good job Albaladalba
good. nice quick inning.
seems like coke is gonna face the m&m boys for a little redux.
we’ll see what happens there. fingers crossed.
Johnny Alba threw 5 fastballs in the same exact spot.
“Gardner CANNOT hit knuckleballs
Why didn’t we pinch hit for him with Hinske?”
He hit RA Dicky the other night it was a bases clearing triple.
I’d had PH Hinske for Ransom, b/c we might actually improve in the infield and Hinske prbly gets a hit vs Dicky w/ RISP or I would have gone Matsui then sub in Hinske for Ransom.
Gardenhoser has earned his time out there.
I am going to get more coffee now. I expect another home run when I return
Ahhh Albaladejo.
I always like you the best out of the Stinky Three.
John Sterling reminds me of the old crazy uncle who comes to your house at holidays and drives you nuts with his teasing and making stuff up.
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That’s it! Sterling is that one crazy uncle everyone has
They’ve got this great thing called “Google” on the internet – and I was able to find lots of King Kullen stores!!!
SJ,
It is the same guy. I’m from Tennessee and Dickey was thought to be one of the best pitchers ever to come out of the the SEC.
He went to UT. Should have gone to Vandy:)
“Every team’s middle relief is weak.”
Not the Yankees, when they had Aceves. That was where they held the advantage over other teams.
You watch the Yankees offense when they take a starter out early, and it seems like the opposing team has to burn through numerous relievers to stop the bleeding.
When the Yankees brought Aceves in in the middle innings, even when the team was losing, he never needed to be taken out early because of ineffectiveness. That allowed Girardi to rest his other relievers while still giving the team a great chance to win.
I’d much rather have Robertson over Albaladejo
Doreen
July 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
They’ve got this great thing called “Google” on the internet – and I was able to find lots of King Kullen stores!!!
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Awesome. Glad you were able to locate them! I like them because I don’t need to remember an annoying card to get sale prices
Baseball America’s Midseason top 25 prospect list:
3. Jesus Montero, c, Yankees
http://www.baseballamerica.com.....ts/?p=5456
I doubt Aceves is going to start after the ASB. I think this was a stop-gap measure. But, we’ll see what they actually do. (I’m not on their speed-dial
)
I’m calling it right now.
Matt is going to post in about 5 minutes second-guessing bringing in Coke to face Mauer and Morneau.
There will be some whining, a few words in caps, and a general negaitve tone to the post. If either of them get on base, forget it.
Stay tuned.
Haha that was an enjoyable post miggs.
Have all of Halladay’s losses come against the Rays? It sure seems that way.
Erica -
I have so many darn cards it’s not funny! I separated them into two wallets – one has the food shopping stuff and the other the mall stuff.
What was cool was they have a King Kullen on Sunrise Highway in Bayshore, and I’m pretty certain I went there a long, long, LOOONG time ago when I was visiting my aunt & uncle who lived in Bayshore when I was a little girl.
Then you want the worse pitcher. I’ll take the better pitcher. Let Robertson learn the strikezone and I’ll reconsider.
Right now, he’s a liability in any high leverage situation due to his inability to throw strikes.
It will be interesting to see if they callup a relief pitcher for tomorrow night. One would think they need one.
Perhaps Pete can ask if that’s the plan after the game.
Matt in 3…2…1….
Coke in to face Mauer and Morneau, then Hughes for the rest of the 7th and 8th?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
cody
Man what a player!
“I’d much rather have Robertson over Albaladejo”
The lesser of 2 evils is Albaledejo. Robertson is better when he throws strikes.
It all depends on the FO if they have the patience for him. I truely believe Robertson is only missing experience w/ his arm action. He IMHO can be like Saito. Keyword: “Can be”
If he starts to believe he can throw it down the middle and not get hurt, he’ll be a stud in the BP.
WHAT IS MAUER DOING ?
uH OH.
There lucky he didn’t try to get a double, ’cause I think he would’ve gotten it.
Mauer’s too good. Minny will NEVER let him go. NEVER.
Ha HA Mauer’s funny.
See ? does that make sense now. Why do you bunt Joe Mauer ?
Youuuuuuse warming up
** They’re
I still don’t want to punch anyone in the face, but if I was still on MUNI and in a bad mood and then saw that clown with the Vikings Favre jersey… it might be tempting.
Doreen
July 9th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
I doubt Aceves is going to start after the ASB. I think this was a stop-gap measure. But, we’ll see what they actually do. (I’m not on their speed-dial )
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You’d be one of the few posters that aren’t. What did you do to Cashman? Poison his parakeet?
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
Coke looks great.
Yussssssssssse !
Brandon….IF he throws strikes. Robertson is extremely unreliable. He’s more talented than Alby, but that really doesn’t matter. Alby is limited, but I like him…..Robertson is a can of gasoline thrown on a fire.
Here comes Yuse.
I thought one is not allowed to bunt if he is hitting .380.
Joe Mauer: team player or stupid player?
Mauer will be a career Twin. He’s a hometown guy and the biggest star in Minnesota. The new ballpark gives them the money to sign him and he wants to stay.
He will never see free agency, IMO.
Great job by Coke. The slider had a lot of tilt today.
Serious question- how does John Sterling keep his job year after year? I have never, and I mean EVER spoken to a Yanks fan who thinks he does a good job. I dont get it. Is he like a Supreme Court judge and has his job for life? Its amazing to me that the Yanks are obsessed with having the best of everything and they still keep him around. Its like buying a BMW with a cloth interior.
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuse
“Nice work by Albaladejo. Were I the official scorer, I’d give him the win instead of Robertson. Yanks 3-2 as we go to the seventh.
Mr. Hughes, Mr. Robertson, duty calls.”
Um, Pete? lol.
Mauer made the right play. They are down 2. Get on and Morneau is the tying run at the plate. That’s good baseball.
I still can’t believe Youuuuse is now Mo’s set up man.
Just can’t predict baseball.
“I thought one is not allowed to bunt if he is hitting .380.”
apparently when your batting .390 your are, still dumb if you ask me.
GB7 -
If the Twins don’t resign Mauer they can stop building their new Stadium right now and just move onto a Little League field. That would accomodate their after-Mauer attendance fine
Just let Coke pitch to a righty already. Ahh whatever. I guess this means they can use him for at least an inning when Joba leaves before the 7th.
Strikes, Phil, strikes.
I don’t care about style points- just win the game. If they lose, it will be disappointing, but I’m not going to kill this team – they’ve been playing outstanding ball. This was always going to be a piecemeal game.
The Jays may have already packed it in – with word that Roy is being shopped, they may feel like “why bother?”. Doc may not be all the way back from his injury, also
“Then you want the worse pitcher. I’ll take the better pitcher. ”
Hrmm…
Albaladejo – 23.3 IP, 5.40 ERA, 1.59 WHIP, 5.40 K/9, 6.17 FIP, 71.9 LOB %
Robertson – 20.1 IP, 2.66 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, 12.84 K/9, 3.24 FIP, 76.6 LOB %
Robertson is better in almost every statistical category. I’d pick him over Albaladejo, easy decision.
I’d have Bruney warming up just in case here. Hughes back-to-back. Is this the first time they’ve tried that with him?
does anybody else think Hughes is morphing into the Papelbon stare>
Doris, my guess is that JS and SW will be around as long as The Boss is around. He loves them both. The Sons will ditch them when he goes IMO.
Posada gunned down the runner. I love it
Great play by Jorge! Nice throw.
Well that was dumb.
that Posada is such a bad catcher, I’m with the Craigster on that.
Mauer is on base for Morneau who is a threat. Mauer’s job is to get on base in that situation, not hit a homerun. It was a good play.
Great throw by Jorge.
Appreciate this guy. He’s not getting any younger.
Cervelli would have caught that clean
Posada shows off the gun.
and if Jorge gets another hit this inning he’s even worse…
A few more runs now would be great
Once again Patrick, quoting stats without context is fools gold.
Robertson has not been good in high leverage situations. Most of his numbers are accumulated in mop up duty.
In high leverage situations, the team up or down 2 or less runs, he’s not good at all.
Albie has been pitching well for over a month between Scranton and NY. At this point in time, he’s the more reliable arm. Especially, in closer games.
Girardi wants this game badly. Need insurance runs to take the heat off the bullpen.
“Mauer is on base for Morneau who is a threat. Mauer’s job is to get on base in that situation, not hit a homerun. It was a good play.”
He could have hit a XBH off of Coke, I don’t see this as a good play at all. Infact the next AB Morneau almost bounced into a GIDP, so hence not a smart play.
Albaladejo is a poor man’s, short relief version of Aceves. He’s really only had four bad games. that means he’s getting the job done 80% of the time. He doesn’t look pretty doing it, but, he usually gets the job done.
good job, al.
The only knock against Jorgie in this game is the two RBI walks he called.
What was Mauer 2 for 2 off Coke with 2 jacks?
It was like Tom Berenger bunting at the end of “Major League” call the shot- lay one down.
Some insurance runs would be nice.
The Yankees have worn out the Twins pitching staff these 3 games.
Liriano went the longest of any starter I think, and he only went 5.1 innings.
Say what you want, if the Yankees win this game its a great win especially when you consider Ace went 3 innings and they are finishing off a sweep on the road.
Jorge. Can he follow up that great defensive play with a hit?
Brandon,
He could have gotten a plain ol’ single, and Morneau still hit into a DP. You can’t judge Mauer’s play by Morneau’s failure, IMO.
SJ can I get a statistic on Robertson in “high leverage situations” compared to Albie?
maybe Mauer isn’t seeing the ball as well as he usually does, he grounded out weekly with the bases loaded earlier. Something tells me he knows more about what he’s doing than anyone here.
** almost GIDP, that is.
SJ44,
His stats are so drastically better, they are very applicable in this discussion.
I mean, it isn’t even close who the better pitcher has been this year.
Fine you want to account for high leverage situations, lets look at WAR. Alba -0.3 WAR, Robertson 0.3 WAR.
By that metric, Robertson has contributed more wins to the team.
Insurance runs highly desired……
Jays have mailed it in…. if not for the corrupt umpire, they would have lost 4 straight here. No surprise Tampa beat them 3 straight.
They’ll play spoiler in September, but not until then.
Alby or D-Rob
like playing Russian Roulette
but with two bullets
Rodriguez must be feeling good. Two steal attempts in the game. This upcoming 4 day break will do him a world of good as well as the Yankee pen.
Neither Albie nor Robertson are reliable in high leverage situations.
But Albie does something that Robertson doesn’t— throw strikes. That gives him a chance every time. He won’t beat himself.
Hilarious Nick
Brandon,
Mauer’s job is to get on base. He can’t predict what Morneau is going to do in his AB.
All he can do is get on base and put the tying run at the plate.
Um… Robertson has contributed to more wins, but Albie is the better pitcher in “high leverage situations?” Are you contradicting yourself?
“SJ can I get a statistic on Robertson in “high leverage situations” compared to Albie?”
LOL you don’t want to know.
How is Robertson different from Veras?
Both have great stuff, don’t throw strikes often enough, and can’t be trusted in high leverage situations.
Haha, Brandon it was more sarcasm at the opinion made that Albie was the better choice.
Kind of frustrating that Halladay’s not nearly as good against the Red Sox and Rays as he is against the Yankees.
Patrick-
Robertson’s and Albaladejo’s results down in Scranton were very close – the big difference Albaladejo walks many fewer batters than Robertson does, and Robertson strikes out a lot more batters than Albaladejo does.
Clearly, the Yanks liked Robertson more than Alby, he’s been up here more than Alby has.
But when Robertson doesn’t throw strikes, he doesn’t look that good, and that happened today.
SJ44-
Robertson has pitched so few major league innings in any leverage situation that you can’t draw any meaningful conclusions about how he pitches in those situations. Last year, for instance, Robertson was fantastic in high leverage situations. But again, too few innings to draw any meaningful conclusions.
Also, how do you fault Morneau for grounding in a fielders choice. He swung at a pitch trying, I’m sure, to drive it in the gap; but unfortunately he rolled one over. It happens to hitters once in a while, they don’t always move the runner simply because they are not perfect. The game of baseball would be boring if everyone could do exactly what they would like all the time.
Nick the Haiku man
A Lohud legend adding
joy and laughs for all
well he only has allowed hits when he pitches to Georgy but that’s just a coincidence.
7 PA the opponent is batting .667/.714/.833 in high leverage 09′
Wave,
Yes but their results in New York aren’t remotely close. Robertson has outperformed Albaladejo by a large amount. This is a no-brainer if you ask me.
Get’em Yusssssse
goldman and pinstripe blog is befuddled why no 2nd cnace for Melancon and so am I. the guy walked 5 batters in 3 innings, will he ever get another oppty.? his upside is pretty damn high. If they need to send robertson down or g-d forbid they DFA Tomko, why can’t they give the 24 yr old stud Melancon another try. bring him along slow and go from there…………………
why not?
Hughes continues his never ending quest to lower his ERA below 4.
robertson is different then veras because he is 5 yrs younger.. veras has been around for a while, robertson is a young pup.
do not give up on young pup’s just increase there workload or situations you bring them in based on results….
Patrick-
I think Robertson is better, too. I was really supporting your point – Alby’s Scranton numbers don’t support the theory he is better than Robertson, either.
Yussse needs to send Rafy Chaves a thank you basket.
If the Yankees can throw a perfect game they would only have to pitch to the M&M bros three times each…..
that’s just nasty.
Brian Bruney 8th?
Joe says no thank you to that
Bruney sad in pen
WOOSH nice K by Hughes
many thanks, Bronx Jeers
but we should be accurate
‘joy and laughs for MOST’
oops, the polls have closed. I hope you voted for Kung Fu Panda. Now it’s too late.
stuart a,
melancon has been been lights out since being sent down to scranton. Though I see your point.
the new nickname for Hughes:
scott shields
great day for the philthies
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughes
Yusssssssse !
That’s just nasty, kid had no chance on that swing.
You know for as much crap as Jorge gets for calling a bad game, I’d like to see how well the pitchers would do if they would just take his advice on how he ACTUALLY calls the game.
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse
man 4.01
Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse!
“You know for as much crap as Jorge gets for calling a bad game, I’d like to see how well the pitchers would do if they would just take his advice on how he ACTUALLY calls the game.”
Most the times this isn’t the case. I know you were relating it to Yusssse last pitching sequence.
The difference between Robertson and Albaladejo isn’t stuff. That’s Robertson. It;s that with limited stuff can get outs. Robertson is either lights out (just not often enoug) or pitches like the lights have been turned out and he can’t find the plate (happens too often).
Hughes is a beast. Thankfully he does his job. Game pace zooming now
“Rock the Boat”!!!!
….Huuuuuuuuhges Corporation
Ransom looks lost out there.
He hits the ball and doesn’t even know where it is. Standing in the box looking for the ball.
Brandon – I’m also relating it to every single start that Joba has made with Jorge. Jorge doesn’t call a terrible game, sometimes the pitchers make terrible decisions.
I know it doesn’t matter once you get to the majors. but Robertson has been great in his minor league career. And he was a very good closer at Alabama.
Albaladejo hasn’t sniffed that kind of success anywhere.
But would you rather have the sinker ball P to help get DPs or someone that can K?
Bruney needs to step it up
We can’t use Hughes/Coke every day in close games.
William Buckner
July 9th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
stuart a,
melancon has been been lights out since being sent down to scranton.
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No he hasn’t.
Guys with suspect control problems are not good late inning options anyway
That’s why Bruney lost his job. Until he can throw strikes again, he will be relegated to low leverage spots.
Hughes threw 5 cutters in this outing and some of them were nasty. He’s making the adjustment before hitters make the adjustment to him in the pen. That’s great to see.
I went back in my game logs and here is what I found for Robertson in high leverage situations this year.
High leverage=Yankees ahead or down 2 runs when he comes into games, including today.
Games: 9
IP: 8 1/3
Hits: 5
Runs: 4 Inherited runs allowed to score: 4
BB: 11
K’s 11
He’s also walked in 4 guys this year. Two in high leverage situations and 2 in low leverage situations.
Innings are now a large sample size. The games though are.
Not to be trusted in these situations. Especially when you walk 11 guys in 8 1/3 innings.
sounds like an entire elementary school chanting to jeter
“Brandon – I’m also relating it to every single start that Joba has made with Jorge. Jorge doesn’t call a terrible game, sometimes the pitchers make terrible decisions.”
the numbers don’t favor him, but he ain’t exactly Jason Varitek back there nor is his Bull Durham.
Innings are **not** a large sample size. Sorry for the typo.
and they have been using Melancon for multipl innings all the time.
let his learn up here, first in mop up and then go from there..
Were people really expecting Cody Ransom to play once, twice a week and be a total rock star??? If the guy was a 300 hitter with a gold glove 3rd base, he would not be a utility journeyman.
Let’s be realistic in our expectations of back-up players
Three words SJ44: SMALL SAMPLE SIZE
You can’t draw any conclusions from that tiny of a sample.
Back to the game … Hughes should stay in the game, he’s only at 19 pitches. But of course there is something magical about the 9th inning so he will come out. Girardi will demonstrate once again why he is retarded.
are they chanting overrated at jeter?
Mo is warming right?
That is Robertson period. He just doesn’t often throw strikes consistently. High leverage or not, he is essentially the same pitcher with some pretty good stuff. Once he finds the strike zone consistently he will be a fine young pitcher.
so with aceves pretty much done for the next 2 and even 3 days isn’t it a good idea to sent robertson and/or albaladejo down and bring up a few fresh pitchers for the next 2 days with joba and pettite going?
additionally, i would work on getting another starter here and keeping aceves in the pen – why mess with the success they’vd had in the bullpen the last month or so…as we saw today aceves this year is much more valuable in the pen than as a starter…
Sterling loves the Dome. He’s been talking about it for 3 games.
Why?
It’s a short walk from the entrance to the booth.
I like the chances that Robertson will grow into being a good reliable reliever for the Yanks, but the numbers just posted by SJ are concerning to say the least…..Handle with care…..Jeter just recieved a Hall of Famer walk….
“Back to the game … Hughes should stay in the game, he’s only at 19 pitches. But of course there is something magical about the 9th inning so he will come out. Girardi will demonstrate once again why he is retarded.”
Nah I’ll go w/ keeping him fresh for the Angels.
Well if Jorge slept with that woman from Bull Durham he’d might be all right haha.
Patrick:
Three more words: Can’t throw strikes.
High leverage relief is always going to be small sample sizes for guys like Robertson. You either perform in them or they have to make a change.
He’s poor in the role because his #1 problem is throwing strikes.
If you want to be Jose Veras, you don’t work high leverage situations.
Hopefully, he’s back in Scranton soon and learns to attack the strikezone.
Melancon has earned a shot to supplant him right now to see if he can help.
Well he’s not throwing 3 games in a row anyway so really what’s the difference between 19 and 30 pitches?
The reason why he couldn’t start today is because he isn’t stretched out at all. That could be remedied if Girardi would use him more often and for more innings per appearance.
If it’s Robertson vs Albie, I’ll take Robertson. Lets get a 1,2,3 ninth so Mauer doesnt have a chance to tie the game.
Robertson is going to the HOF.
Pipe down guys
Will Alby get the win? Or will it go to who pitched the best?
Erica – always OPPC
July 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Were people really expecting Cody Ransom to play once, twice a week and be a total rock star??? If the guy was a 300 hitter with a gold glove 3rd base, he would not be a utility journeyman.
Let’s be realistic in our expectations of back-up players
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Why is it that women are so much more sensible than men?
(kidding boys…just kidding
aceves needs 2 days off that is it.. 65 pitches today was a day game. sat night in LA he can give you a inning or so…
Mariano Rivera in a save situation and you want Hughes?
And you are calling Girardi retarded? LOL
This is Mariano time. It has nothing to do with Hughes’ pitch count.
SJ44,
The conclusions you draw have no weight becuase there isn’t a large enough sample size to back them up. That’s just a fact.
Hopefully he stays in New York and improves. Albaladejo and Tomko are the worst pitchers on the staff, they will be the next two to go.
Pat M.
If they have patience w/ Robertson (but they’re going to have to go through headaches w/ him)
He’s what 23, 24 ? I think he can be a Tkashi Saito eventually, all that’s left is for him to mature and offseason arm strengthening program. With that said he could become a Armando Benitez and pitch w/ the lights out and blow more games. It all depends on him. He shoots himself in the foot.
Even in the minors, Robertson has high walk totals
Didn’t he walk 17 guys in 35 AAA innings before he was called up last year?
Nothing new in that department.
Yes I want Hughes, his pitch count is low and he needs innings. Bring Mo in if a guy gets on base.
There is nothing magical about the 9th inning..
Yes I am calling Girardi retarded. He is a very traditional manager and there are many cases in which traditional managing is stupid.
You can say it is a small sample size for Robertson, but aside from the stats just use your eyes. Just like Cano changes his approach and looks awful in big situations the same goes for Robertson. Even if the sample size in innings is small he has been in there for 9 big situations and has been consistently bad in those 9. Being that bad in crucial situations in 9 games can mean the difference between a playoff spot.
Also to the person who suggested leaving Hughes out there. Yeah in a 2 run game lets leave the best reliever in the history of baseball on the bench and burn out Hughes for the next 3 days. Thats smart.
Gotta go to Mo
Patrick great point, there is no reason to keep Alby and send Robertson down. Pitching in the minor leagues to learn how to throw strikes doesn’t help very much. You just come back to the majors wondering if you can throw the big boys strikes. Learn how to throw strikes to people who can hit strikes.
Dude I don’t even get why you are complaining about Robertson in high leverage situations. That’s why we have Mo, Hughes, Bruney, Aceves and Coke. Robertson is a middle reliever, he doens’t need to pitch in clutch situations.
“so…as we saw today aceves this year is much more valuable in the pen than as a starter…”
And you can tell that by one start where he was on a 65 pitch count?
Just silly talk.
SJ lets say D-Rob improves and starts throwing strikes, what would you say he’d be ?
Robertson did not give up the lead.
DING DING !
They won’t pitch PH 3 days in a row. Joe said he trys to avoid throwing anyone (maybe except Mo) 3 days in a row. If the NYY had tacked on a few runs to make it a non-save, I think they’d let PH pitch the 9th. But Mo it is. That’s why he’s there.
And Veras comes into the Cleveland/Chicago game, gets an out, gives up a run scoring single, closing the gap to 9-8 Cleveland. He gets the third out. Cleveland had a 9-2 lead.
Mo vs. Mauer Part II
Mauer is the tying run.
Mauer up as the tying run, this should be interesting.
And here is a rematch of the marquis match up
Also, I am in favor of giving Mo the day off. Sure he is going to get the save and that makes sense, but I think Hughes could get good work pitching in the ninth and getting some more length out of his arm. If he gets in trouble take him out.
Oh no Jesus is batting! But we have God pitching so i have faith
ANOTHER KNOCKOUT FOR SANDMAN !
THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN!!!
SWEEP!!
SWEEP!
SWEEP!
2-run game in 9th
Greatest Of All Time ready
gotta go to Mo
The way Joe pieced together this win,never been more prouder to be a Yankees fan!!
mo gave up the hit on purpose to face mauer
I think Sterling just blew a lung out. Woot woot!
Eventually I believe baseball will go to closer by committee. Once the great closers are gone I see baseball teams going a different way with how they close out games.
Hey SJ44 will you be satisfied if the Yankees get swept by the Angels?
The Twins broadcasters do not regret to see the Yankees leave… quote “I hate them”
There’s no question Robertson doesn’t throw enough strikes. But I would argue he’s not a fair comparison to Jose Veras.
The reason why is because Robertson is a tough guy to hit as You don’t see him get hit hard very often. Opposing hitters have only hit .178 against him.
Jose Veras got hit hard quite a bit whether he issued free passes or not.
Pel
July 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
mo gave up the hit on purpose to face mauer
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At least he didn’t walk the bases loaded to get to Mauer with no outs…
“so…as we saw today aceves this year is much more valuable in the pen than as a starter…”
And you can tell that by one start where he was on a 65 pitch count?
Just silly talk.
No miggs – aceves has been in the bullpen the entire year – he has been invaluable in that position – arguably the best reliever not named rivera…if you bring in aceves as a starter then you need to rely on robertson and albaladejo to replace aceves 40 pitches in innings 4 – 9 (depending on the score and situation) … are you ready to count on robertson and alby?
Bill July 9th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
They won’t pitch PH 3 days in a row. Joe said he trys to avoid throwing anyone (maybe except Mo) 3 days in a row. If the NYY had tacked on a few runs to make it a non-save, I think they’d let PH pitch the 9th. But Mo it is. That’s why he’s there.
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He pitches Coke everyday.
Did the Twins broadcasters really say “I hate them”??? LOL
All right Yanks!
On Robertson:
When the score is within 2 runs, Robertson has faced 22 batters this year. That’s not enough of a sample size to draw any conclusions at all.
To see what I mean, look at Robertson’s results in 2008 when the score is within two runs. That year, he was great. But again, too few batters faced to draw a meaningful conclusion.
Wait, Mauer was the third out of that inning too…
Watching Rivera pitch in a situation like this reminds me of a prayer heard in the Au Shau Valley in Vietnam. “Dear God. We need help. Please come yourself. This is no place for children.”
Teixeira’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6244995595bac16d/
bring on the angels!
Mo saids to Waldman
On Yusssse in the BP role : “He likes it out there”
On facing Mauer: “I wanted to”
great win. great series. great team…..
Bert Blyleven said something like, “Good riddance, bye Yankees. I don’t like them.”
Okay, now if they went 3-3, I’d be disappointed.
Well what do we do for tomorrow for our bullpen, Ave wont be there to save Joba and the Pen?
Good to know that if they win only one in LA they have a winning road trip. But, now that they’ve swept the Twins, I’ll admit it will disappoint immensely if they don’t take at least one in LA.
Everything to like for the way the bullpen has found itself over the last few weeks.
Brandon,
He’s never going to be a closer or lock down setup guy because his stuff isn’t electric and he has always had location problems.
Straight fastball, 91-92, good curveball, but can’t always locate it and no third pitch. Nothing that stands out for late inning type of work.
He’s the kind of guy who would have more value to the Yankees on the trade market than as a fulltime member of their bullpen, IMO.
A decent bullpen arm and nothing more.
Patrick,
If you think 11 walks in 8+ innings, small sample size or not, in high leverage situations is the mark of a good pitcher, we will just agree to disagree.
Then again, anybody who doesn’t want Mariano in a save situation I tend to discount when it comes to talking about pitching.
Woo hoo! I was dead wrong, lol – the score did hold at 6-4. Just a fantastic job by the pen…….The Twins are a good team and play tough at home – I think Gardenhire will be very glad to see the Yankees go, lol.
I’ll have to catch him on the replay, but how’d Phil (Hughes, of course) look?
I really like Albaladejo – I liked him before, but he just didn’t get the job done consistently. Does he look different than he did earlier? I think he can be a solid reliever for us…….I do like Robertson’s talent ,but he’s really not ready for a an important role on this team.
The Yanks just keep putting pressure on the Sox – this could be a very, very exciting summer.
Whatever two starters that aren’t scheduled to pitch in Anaheim will be in the bullpen for the weekend, for long relief.
Mark – Well tomorrow Joba will just have to throw 8 innings 235 pitches (80 strikes) allowing 15 hits and 7 runs. Then Bruney can pitch the 9th with about the same numbers.
i think its time that we as a blog realize that this team is good…very good…not perfect, but no team is…if we avoid injury our next goal is to beat boston…atleast once right
just think how good we’d feel about the yankees if that played .500 ball against the red sox
Do you realize if Boston loses tonight we could be tied for first at this time tomorrow??
Love that we won this game to keep pressure on Boston having to win
What are the chances the Yanks send down Albaladejo tonight to have a fresh arm in the bullpen for Joba tomorrow?
I never said that’s the mark of a good pitcher. I said that it’s too small a sample size to conclude whether or not he’s good in those situations. In every other situation he’s been pretty awesome so I’m thinking the discrepancy in numbers is because of a small sample size.
I want Mo to pitch but it wasn’t necessary for him to pitch. Hughes was only at 19 pitches and he needs innings. Why use another reliever when your bullpen is already gassed? Especially with Joba going tomorrow. I’d prefer to let Hughes finish out the 9th and save Mo for tomorrow. As it is, he probably won’t be pitching tomorrow.
You haven’t yet answered my question SJ44, will you be satisfied with this 6 game roadtrip if the Angels sweep the Yankees?
SJ I never thought of D-Rob as a CL, I’m thinking eventually a bridge to the SU man type guy. Once he learns to throw strikes and that’s basically confidence in stuff, he’s 23 or 24 yrs. old and I agree I would use him in a sensible trade.
“Good riddance, bye Yankees. I don’t like them”
Aww twinkies announcers are frustrated.
SJ, Robertson does not have a straight fastball. David Cone and Flahrety have noted the late life and break to it on a number of occasions.
There are 10 games left against Boston. Theorically, its still possible for the Yankees to go 500 against them. Not likely, but possible. Wouldn’t that be glorious???
Mariano is amazing, just amazing! The guy is like the Energizer Bunny, he just keep going and going and going and …………….
On to Anaheim, let’s take 2 of 3 Yankees! I live about 7 miles from Anaheim Stadium and would like nothing better than to see Angel fans have to eat crow. All they do around here is boast, “Oh, the Yankees, we own them, they’re our bitch.”
Oh, and can we play the Twins some more, Bud Selig? I mean you’ve changed everything else in baseball, why not add a few more games so we can get fat on the Twinkies. Ha Ha
I suppose you guys know that the Playoffs are longer this year, with the WS going into November. I cannot imagine how cold it will be in New York in November, if the Yanks get that far. Oh, for the days of October World Series games during the day. I guess those days are gone forever.
Great win today, but we can’t be in a position to have to use six pitchers every five days until Wang comes back.
“What are the chances the Yanks send down Albaladejo tonight to have a fresh arm in the bullpen for Joba tomorrow?”
I think the chances are very high that either Robertson or Albaladejo is sent down.
I’d also like to see Tomko DFA’d and someone better called up, but I don’t think that will happen.
Now that quote is the epitome of who Mo is. He wanted to face Mauer……..the best vs the best. Perfect.
I hope the media won’t take Mo’s quote about Phil liking the pen and run with it (he’s a starter, he will be a starter, he wants to be a starter). That said, how cool is it to hang with Mo? There must be some kind of thrill that a pitcher gets when he knows that there is always a possibility he may be called in to get an important out or two or three. I can see why Phil would like that – it’s sort of like living on the edge.
I love that we put pressure on the Red Sox to win tonight or else they give up the division lead.
Not that the Sox are scoreboard watching this early, but it’s always nice to get a day game win when they play at night. If nothing else, it puts me in a good mood
Exit Light
Enter Night
Great win today.
“Bert Blyleven said something like, “Good riddance, bye Yankees. I don’t like them.”
That’s because he’s an idiot and is unprofessional. Some announcers don’t get it. It is their job to relay to the audience what is happening during the game. They are not supposed to be rooting for the team or be a fan of the team openly. That is what’s wrong with jerks like Hawk in CWS and now Blyleven. Do you think you’d hear Michael Kay say that he hates BOS into an open mike? I don’t like Kay, but I know that he’s more professional than that. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at Blyleven. He’s the fool that dropped the F bomb during a game. Clearly, he should stick to pitching.
>5.2 scoreless innings for the bullpen. Prime time stuff.
Technically, Aceves gets penalized for the runners, but Robertson really blew it big time by walking in 2 runs.
Was busy after the D-Rob experiment, but it looks like a good team effort.
Reading backwards a bit.
If mo can go, he will. He’s chasing history, they’re not going to let other pitchers get the save if mo’s not overworked.
D-Rob? Obviously has trouble with the strike zone. Either no command, or he’s scared to throw strikes. Can’t send him down to learn how to throw strikes because he walked people in the minors as well.
He is what he is, just got to accept that.
Nice job by Albaladejo and the rest of the guys.
People will second guess the move to start Aceves (yes, I know people were against it in the first place), but I think it was the right move.
Girardi obviously wanted to get people work (and win the game), by avoiding Tomko.
Do the right thing and stretch Aceves out over the next two weeks. You’ll see a much better start by Aceves if they choose that route.
If it wasn’t for Robertson being squeezed in the 4th – the bullpen did an amazing job – 5 2/3 innings of 2 hit shutout ball.
Haha I like Blyleven, he’s hilarious and a great announcer in my opinion. I want opposing teams to hate the Yankees, that means the Yanks have a great team.
Also on an unrelated note, I think Blyleven should be in the hall of fame, it’s a sin that he isn’t already.
“There are 10 games left against Boston. Theorically, its still possible for the Yankees to go 500 against them. Not likely, but possible. Wouldn’t that be glorious???”
glorious is looking at the moon and seeing it smile….9-1 against the sox here on out would be “orgasmic” and i use that in a very clean manner
Honestly, sometimes I am grateful I was born a Yankee fan. Rooting for other teams just doesn’t seem as meaningful
I would not send Alby down – then you can’t recall him for 10 days unless there is an injury
Patrick,
Mo is in the game in a save situation, if he is fresh, 100 out of 100 times. Its the only move you make.
You don’t bring him in the middle of an inning.
This is Mariano Rivera, not some scrub.
You work around his strength, not around Phil Hughes or anybody else.
His strength is starting an inning so, he starts the inning in a save situation.
I said a 3-3 roadtrip would be acceptable to me, given the nature of the trip. If they do better, great.
I still feel that way. Tough trip and anything 3-3 or better is fine by me.
“Save Mo for tomorrow”
that is crazy strategy. Who is to say the yanks will have the lead at all in the next 3 games. Can’t assume Mo will have a save opp tomorrow. Gotta lockdown every game you can, while you can.
RalphieD
LOL. I second that, but I was going for G-rated
After the 2006 Boston Massacre in Fenway, I giggled for a week
How has Montero been doing lately?
The Angels aren’t exactly a powerhouse right now. Their starting pitching outside of Weaver has been shaky. We’ve beaten their bullpen before, and Hunter and Vlad might be out for the series.
I wouldn’t be shocked if we sweep, but of course I’m not expecting it.
Last year when Robertson came into games in which the margin was two runs or less, he faced 46 batters, giving up 3 runs, striking out 11 and walking 5. Based upon that, I presume you would conclude Robertson was very good indeed in those situations.
This year in those situations, he has faced 22 batters, giving up 7 runs, walking 7 and striking out 5. Based upon that, I presume you would conclude Robertson was not very good in those situations.
Actually, Robertson faced so few batters either year you can’t conclude the results were anything other than random. That’s just basic probability theory.
It also assumes “high leverage” situations is indeed a meaningul predictive category for any pitcher. I don’t even know if that is true.
Got to feel a little bad for the Twins. Going 0-7 against the Yankees with a run differential of -8 in six of those games is a hard pill to swallow.
Mariano is simply amazing, he is like the Energizer Bunny, he keeps going and going and ….;.
Now on to Anaheim and let’s take at least 2 out of 3 from those guys. I live about 7 miles from Anaheim Stadium, and am real tired of them constantly boasting that they “own” the Yankees.
“RalphieD
LOL. I second that, but I was going for G-rated
After the 2006 Boston Massacre in Fenway, I giggled for a week”
yea g-rated…i know what that means =o…ok ill stop
Tomorrow I want to see a Joba-Tomko-Bruney game
Is there any way someone would kidnap Robertson until after the WS,so Joe won’t feel compelled to use him?
He was awful.The only bad spot in the game.
The Yankees record is now 51-34. Thats significant because it means they are playing to a .600 winning percentage. Its imporatant to achieve and maintan a .600 winning percentage because if the Yankees do so over a 162 game schedule then they will win 97 games this season. That should be good enough for at least a wild card spot.
It looked bad for the Yankees to get to a .600 winning percentage when they were 6 games below .500 in May. I think the Yankees had to play .650 baseball to get back to a .600 winning percentage. Now that they are there the Yankees only have to win 6 out of every 10 games to get to 97 wins and lock up a playoff spot. Back in early May, I didn’t think that it would be possible for the Yankees to get to a .600 winning percentage this soon but once again they exceeded my expectations.
“Now on to Anaheim and let’s take at least 2 out of 3 from those guys. I live about 7 miles from Anaheim Stadium, and am real tired of them constantly boasting that they “own” the Yankees.”
They owned Torre’s Yankees. This is a different group entirely.
“Now on to Anaheim and let’s take at least 2 out of 3 from those guys. I live about 7 miles from Anaheim Stadium, and am real tired of them constantly boasting that they “own” the Yankees.”
They owned Torre’s Yankees. This is a different group entirely.
Tomorrow I want to see a Joba-Tomko-Bruney game..
so you’re looking at a 17-3 yankee loss?
YES post-game Booth Report with Lorenz, Singleton, and Cone:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/624505283870f1a7/
“How has Montero been doing lately?”
The lack of recent updates on this blog should tell you.
Good sweep, on to Anaheim, even one win there means a 4-2 road trip and CC pitches on Sunday. Andy and Joba have both pitched well on the road so 2 out of 3 or even a sweep is not out of the question with both Vlad and Hunter out of the series.
Considering we have always played poorly in Anahiem and considering we have no bullpen tomorrow…. yes, I will still take a 3-3 trip.
A game with no shots at A-Rod by Pete???
Shocked
Here’s to Joe Mauer hitting .400…tip of the cap to you.
Is there any way someone would kidnap Robertson until after the WS,so Joe won’t feel compelled to use him?
He was awful.The only bad spot in the game.
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Because of the short outing today by Ace, the Yanks have had to tax the bullpen. I suspect that they will send Roberston back to Scranton overnight and bring up another arm (maybe Edwar) to help them if Joba has a short outing tomorrow.
Laura
July 9th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
“Now on to Anaheim and let’s take at least 2 out of 3 from those guys. I live about 7 miles from Anaheim Stadium, and am real tired of them constantly boasting that they “own” the Yankees.”
They owned Torre’s Yankees. This is a different group entirely.
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Very good point, Laura, and i think it bares repeating.
Oooops…It looks like you have.
“I’d also like to see Tomko DFA’d and someone better called up, but I don’t think that will happen.”
We could package Edwar and Tomko + Miranda for Freddy Sanchez ?
Trevor Hoffman will be 43 yrs old in Oct.
He is in the club with Mo of 500 plus saves,just them.He is still going strong WITH A 1.85 Era,and so will Mo
Girardi made it sound as if player(s) would be sent down for the ‘pen.
LAA always kills us, but if we can win 2 of 3 how cool would that be?
Some of you guys are overacting to Robertson bad outing.
Thank goodness Phil Hughes has phinally found his role!
m: if you like the Twin Peaks soundtrack, I HIGHLY recommend picking up two cd’s (Floating Into the Night and The Voice of Love) by Julee Cruise. She is the singer from the Twin Peaks songs and those two records are with the same personell (words by David Lynch, music by Angelo Badalamenti) as the TP stuff. But better. With a little overlap.
“I suspect that they will send Roberston back to Scranton overnight and bring up another arm (maybe Edwar) to help them if Joba has a short outing tomorrow.”
They might, but the Yanks don’t tend to manipulate their roster that way. My guess is they do nothing.
Also, I like Edwar, but do you remember the way he was pitching when we last saw him?
Here’s my opinion about this Mariano discussion. There is nothing special about the 9th inning. It shouldn’t be reserved for your best reliever because it’s really nothing different from any other inning.
I want my best reliever facing the opposing team’s best hitters. OR I want my best reliever in the game when it’s on the line.
My opinion on Hughes plays into this decision as well. I think he needs to be stretched out more and throw more innings. HE was only at 19 pitches and he was set up to face the 9-1-2 hitters.
I let him finish out the game unless someone gets on base. At that point the game is on the line and a HR ties the game. Thats when I bring in Mo if needed.
Finally, another reason against using Mo is we need him fresh for the Angels series. Joba goes tomorrow and our bullpen is pretty worn out. Bruney and Tomko are the only guys that are fresh. I’d rather save Mo for tomorrow if at all possible.
Trevor
July 9th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
“How has Montero been doing lately?”
The lack of recent updates on this blog should tell you.
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You’re wrong. Montero and other minor leaguers of note get updated every night.
Mariano threw 12 pitches last night and 11 today to pick up 2 saves.
Papelface threw 30 pitches last night for 1 save.
take out the game the umps gave to the Blue Jays, and the Yanks have lost one game since June 24th.
Not too shabby.
Now who would you say right now had the best bullpen in baseball?
One more thing SJ44,
So you’re saying you’d be fine if the Yankees get swept against the Angels? Just so we’re clear…
Because I think that would be 100% unacceptable. Getting swept by the Angels going into the break would be awful. Especially with the Red Sox facing the Royals (likely to win 2 or 3 games).
I said it 3 days ago I’ll say it again, 3-3 is not acceptable. The Yanks need to take 1-2 games from the Angels.
Nick,
How sweet! I’ll try to hunt down some samples.
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62450791ce149c6f/
“I suspect that they will send Roberston back to Scranton overnight and bring up another arm (maybe Edwar) to help them if Joba has a short outing tomorrow.”
They might, but the Yanks don’t tend to manipulate their roster that way. My guess is they do nothing.
Also, I like Edwar, but do you remember the way he was pitching when we last saw him?
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No one likes to manipulate the roster that way, but in this case it makes sense. Not only is Joba a risk to have a short outing on Friday, but Andy could possibly have a short outing on Saturday.
Good win today. The bullpen has been spot on lately.
I have every reason to believe that the Yankees can win at least half of their remaining games against Boston. Things usually even out in baseball and the Red Sox are beatable
“Here’s my opinion about this Mariano discussion. There is nothing special about the 9th inning.”
I stopped reading right there.
If there was an IGNORE feature on this site, I would certainly take advantage of it.
Yankee play Angel’s RS plays KC,who won’t even make the play off,sigh!!
NYY has at least two extra long men in the pen this weekend. They can pick up an inning+ each and they’ll have almost a week before their next start. Either Aceves or Burnett will be able to pick up one or two innings on their throw days if needed.
Actually, if they want to stretch out Aceves they could send him down, since he wouldn’t be needed until the 21st. He could do one start at Scranton (or wherever they play)to get his pitch count up.
Now who would you say right now had the best bullpen in baseball?
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As long as the bullpen is limited to Rivera, Coke, Ace and Hughes, the Yankees have the best ‘pen. When you start using guys like Roberston, Tomko, Bruney and Albaladejo things go downhill pretty quick.
Montero isn’t doing well right now but that’s to be expected. He couldn’t keep up that pace all season.
In his last 6 games Montero is 2 for 24 with 0 RBI, 0 walks and 8 K’s.
the sabermetric folks love to use the whole “9th” inning isn’t special stance. I can see their viewpoint, but saying the 9th inning isn’t a big deal in a place like say Fenway is just silly.
Robertson for Edwar… Edwar is absolutely terrible if I do recall.
Mariano Rivera is ridiculous. At 39 he’s posting his best K/BB ratio of his career and has THREE walks more than half way through the season.
“Lucius Washington: You’re not gonna live forever.
Ricky Bobby: No one lives forever, no one. But with advances in modern science and my high level income, it’s not crazy to think I can live to be 245, maybe 300. Heck, I just read in the newspaper that they put a pig heart in some guy from Russia. Do you know what that means?
Lucius Washington: No, I don’t know what that means. I guess longer life.
Ricky Bobby: No, he didn’t live. It’s just exciting that we’re trying things like that.”
Bert Blyleven said something like, “Good riddance, bye Yankees. I don’t like them.
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Whatever Bert!
Please do not recall Edwar Ramirez under any circumstances.
That dude is a one-trick pony who is quickly becomes batting practice.
Someone should buy Edwar a plane ticket so he can pitch in the HR derby next week.
With the Rays facing Oakland and Boston facing KC…. if we get swept by Anahiem, we’re going to lose atleast 2, if not 3 games in the standings.
GreenBeret7
July 9th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Whatever two starters that aren’t scheduled to pitch in Anaheim will be in the bullpen for the weekend, for long relief.
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GB, I like that idea very much, but will Girardi do it?
I’m with Patrick on this, Girardi does stay in the “box” too much on his decisions.
Correction on my last statement. This year Edwar is absolutely terrible in the MLB. That little spinner of his wont be fooling too many hitters if he comes back.
Mariano threw 12 pitches last night and 11 today to pick up 2 saves.
Papelface threw 30 pitches last night for 1 save.
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“Papelbon can’t hold Mariano’s jockstrap” – quote from a boston fan on the soxs vs pinstripes blog after save 500
My guess is they will decide between Hughes/Aceves and have one of them make a simulated start over the break. I doubt they option either one to AAA.
If the 9th inning were special closers like Todd Jones and Joe Borowski wouldnt be closers.
If the Yankees had taken 2 of 3 from Minny, i would have been perfectly okay with a 3-3 road trip. But they already have 3 wins. I think they must take one from the Angels. I won’t ask for more, because historically the Angels give them fits, but I don’t think it’s completely out of the question for them to take 2 in LA.
Also, a 3-3 trip then means going into the break on a 3-game losing streak.
Adjust the expectations to fit the situation. 4-2 is the new 3-3.
Joba is due for an 8 inning start. He had two starts early in the season giving up only 1 earned run a piece with Molina catching.
I’m going to guess Robertson is going down. But hopefully it’s not Edwar coming back.
Don’t need to see 2 pitchers that was awful earlier this year in the pen now. Crossing fingers it’s Melancon.
Pel-again, thank you for the audio links.
NYY has at least two extra long men in the pen this weekend. They can pick up an inning+ each and they’ll have almost a week before their next start. Either Aceves or Burnett will be able to pick up one or two innings on their throw days if needed.
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I think the Yankees could use Burnett this weekend, but I doubt that Aceves is available in the next 3 days.
Holy crap Pepitone agrees with me.
Honestly, I’m surprised and this is not meant as an insult in any way.
Do people forget Edwar’s career numbers against the Angels?
Recalling him, especially for this series, would be idiotic.
So what you’re really saying Doreen, is that I was right all along
kidding…
I’m going to guess Robertson is going down. But hopefully it’s not Edwar coming back.
Don’t need to see 2 pitchers that was awful earlier this year in the pen now. Crossing fingers it’s Melancon.
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Agreed!!! Melancon is the better move…and he might be more ready for that challenge than he was earlier this season.
Yeah what is this “I’d take a sweep from the Angels? That is ridiculous talk, why would you be happy mopping someones floor? Ever.
With the AS break…. we have Burnett available in relief as well if we need him.
Do not call up Edwar! He’s at his worst against the Angels. He’s pitched 6.2 innings and allowed 16 hits, 15 runs (14 earned), 6 walks, and 3 HRs against them in his career.
I can come up with a negative from this afternoon’s game:
there’s no Yankees for me to watch tonight.
Bummer!
(Replays and classic games don’t count.)
“As long as the bullpen is limited to Rivera, Coke, Ace and Hughes, the Yankees have the best ‘pen. When you start using guys like Roberston, Tomko, Bruney and Albaladejo things go downhill pretty quick.”
However, through last night the Yank bullpen was tied with Boston and Tampa for the lowest percentage of inherited runners allowed to score – 29%.
That’s certainly a bright spot.
Patrick!
Nope, just adjust the expectations to fit the situation. 3-3 being fine is if they only took 2 here.
I do agree if they go 3-3 now, it’s a disappointment.
(Especially if Boston plays well against the Royals)
I’d think he might. Pettitte prefers that over wasting time throwing in the bullpen where he can’t tell how affective his pitches are. Aceves has a throw day on sunday, and Burnett’s is on Saturday if something goes wrong with Burnett. I might even consider a one time short rest start with Sabathia and swap starts with him and Chamberlain.
Edwar vs. the Angels = me
Scary memories
Pepiton # 25…I’m in Newport Beach, where do live & are you going to any of the 4 games ????
Robertson’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/624511649ab194d8/
Saunders has a 4.44 ERA
Weaver has given up 20 runs in his last 23 innings after a great start
Lackey has a 5.18 ERA
We should be able to score runs this weekend
Gardner’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/624511965c97997c/
and Burnett’s is on Saturday if something goes wrong with ***Sabathia***. I might even consider a one time short rest start with Sabathia and swap
Strap on the riot gear, we’re heading to Anaheim. Perhaps Chamberlain can make it through the fifth inning somehow.
>Pel-again, thank you for the audio links.
You’re welcome.
6-18 in Angels Stadium since 04
Have not won a series in Anaheim since 2004.
A great closer=A stopper,don’t Dis the role.
Mo is as useful as any pitcher.He does his work when the front of the rotation comes out.
When Papillon(typed on purpose),or Hughes match his greatness,then your argument has credence.
Paps has a bad shoulder,and might not make 500 saves.PHIL might not get 300 wins.
MO is already qualified to be a first round inductee in the HOF,when he retires.
A-Rod and Teixeira are going to have a big series against the Angels. They both put up great numbers in LA.
I think we’re catching the Angels at a perfect time. Given how well we’ve been playing, I’d like to think we can take 2/3 and finish the trip 5-1.
The Angels didn’t play well against Texas, and it doesn’t sound as if Hunter or Vlad will be in the lineup.
Pat M.-
ahhh, Newport Beach! One of Amy and I’s favorite spots is Mutt Lynch’s in Newport. Great place!
All-
Congrats to you guys on the sweep. A road 3 game is so difficult.
-dennis
“6-18 in Angels Stadium since 04″
Not the same Angels, not the same Yankees. Also, Vlad and Torii Hunter may miss this series.
I love the yankees!!! Great win… 17 over 500 keep it up boys… but… we need another starter.
Hughes’ YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62451531409b9e66/
Mo’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62451589854f1da6/
Patrick
July 9th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Holy crap Pepitone agrees with me.
Honestly, I’m surprised and this is not meant as an insult in any way.
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Why? I don’t consider you my enemy. Now, if you were a Red Sox fan, then you would be my enemy!
I also agree with you – ok, you can get up off the floor now – that a 3-3 road trip is definitely NOT acceptable. I understand what SJ is saying, but after going 3-0 against the Twins why not at least 2-1 against the Angels? The Yankees are on a good roll right now, I don’t want it to stop.
Pel you da man on the audio links,thanks!
The Yanks aren’t going to get swept in Anaheim.
The Yanks are playing great right now. Andy has pitched well on the road, and in his good-game-bad game pattern he’s due for the good one.
Don’t worry, be happy.
Pat M.
July 9th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Pepiton # 25…I’m in Newport Beach, where do live & are you going to any of the 4 games ????
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Hi, Pat M.
No, I’m broke. Been out of work for a while still looking for a job, so money is real tight right now. The California budget crisis is hurting a lot of us.
I live in La Mirada which is right next door to Fullerton. My wife worked in Newport Beach for a law firm out there, until she had to go on disability. I think she worked on Campus Drive.
Don’t forget that Joba and Pettitte (and actually our whole pitching staff) are very good on the road. And the offense is on a roll.
Watching the Indians White sox game. Pierzynski is highly underrated as a defensive and offensive catcher. Not fond of the personality, but, like a lot of old time players, you hate his type….unless he’s on your team.
The Jesus is the 3rd best prospect in baseball right now (From Baseball America)
Midseason Top 25 Prospects
1. Jason Heyward, of, Braves
2. Mike Stanton, of, Marlins
3. Jesus Montero, c, Yankees
4. Justin Smoak, 1b, Rangers
5. Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Giants
6. Buster Posey, c, Giants
7. Carlos Santana, c, Indians
8. Chris Tillman, rhp, Orioles
9. Brian Matusz, lhp, Orioles
10. Logan Morrison, 1b, Marlins
>Pel you da man on the audio links,thanks!
No problem.
Patrick, I completely disagree. Mo is your closer – and why put him in a difficult situation (1 on, tying run at the plate) if you don’t have to? You don’t need to convince me that Phil needs to pitch more innings, but 9th inning? No……….that’s Mo’s job.
Patrick, I completely disagree. Mo is your closer – and why put him in a difficult situation (1 on, tying run at the plate) if you don’t have to? You don’t need to convince me that Phil needs to pitch more innings, but 9th inning? No……….that’s Mo’s job.
After smoking AA, Montero is in his first slump. 1 for his last 20. Still hitting .299
What about signing BJ Ryan? Toronto is paying for him. He had a good year last year and should be an improvement over Tomko. Why not take a flier on him?
SJ, forget Hinske at third (sorry, just catching up now).Ransom is a pet of Joe’s – Joe is like his dad or something, he only sees the good (what little there is) in the guy. He’s a terrible player – really, I wanted him DFA’d the minute he came off the DL.
“You know I like it, I kind of like it, everyday I give the team a chance to win”
Yussssse shut up
Pat M: I onced lived in Newport years ago, just for a few months. I rented a room from some UCI students who lived across the street from the beach. Very calm lifestyle down there… unless you get caught in traffic trying to go anyplace outside of Newport.
Only a 3-game series… I might be down in SoCal next week for a couple days, wish I had known further in advance could have tried to make the Sunday game… oh well.
Pepitone # 25…..Mutt Lynch’s is a great place….I’ve been out on the DL myself since late February…..I always recieve season tix from clients so I’ll be there tomorrow and Monday……
Hinske is just as much of a butcher at 3rd as Ransom. And he told Joe he is most comfortable in the outfield.
“Joe is like his dad or something, he only sees the good (what little there is) in the guy.”
Interesting point, Betsy. Yeah, people’s judgement can seem a little blurred when they start looking at a player like a relative…
4 game series
I totally agree on Ransom. He came advertised as a good field no hit reserve player. His fielding has been atrocious. Pena is a better player and should have never been sent down.Pena is a better fielder who can switch hit and also steal a base when you need it. Is Cashman that bad of a talent evaluator? On another note; isn’t it annoying that a player like Gardner can’t bunt. The kid is playing great ball but if he was more skillful as a bunter he could be a .3oo hitter. With his skillset it is surprising the kid was never taught to bunt. Anyway enough with the negative. This team is on a major role and if they stay healthy i can’t see them not winning the division.
Pat M: I wouldn’t trust those Monday tickets. Isn’t Monday the All-Star Home Run Derby? I think Sunday is the last game before the break.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p?c_id=nyy
“Midseason Top 25 Prospects
1. Jason Heyward, of, Braves
2. Mike Stanton, of, Marlins
3. Jesus Montero, c, Yankees
4. Justin Smoak, 1b, Rangers
5. Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Giants
6. Buster Posey, c, Giants
7. Carlos Santana, c, Indians
8. Chris Tillman, rhp, Orioles
9. Brian Matusz, lhp, Orioles
10. Logan Morrison, 1b, Marlins”
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where’s Tony Sanchez??
I demand a recount.
poor hughes. he has become joba-ed. he’s the perfect 8th inning guy. hope he escapes.
Brandon, why are you so worried? Phil wants to be a starter – he doesn’t have to keep qualifying his comments about liking the pen by saying “but, I want to be a starter”. He’d sound like an idiot. Phil is making the most of a the situation – I posted before, but being in the pen must be like a thrill ride for him because he never knows if he’s going to get “the call”. It can be exciting. He can like being in the pen and still love being a starter; right now, this is all new to him.
Unless those seats are for the HR Derby…
-dennis
i wonder if montero is getting figured out and a weakness found at this higher level. adjust, adjust.