So long to the Metrodome
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 09, 2009 
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Few tears will be shed when the Twins leave the Metrodome for a new ballpark next spring. It’s a quirky baseball stadium with a centerfield fence that appears to be made of blue plastic garbage bags, folded up football seats in right field and artificial turf that sends balls bouncing at odd angles.
But as a baseball writer, I’ll miss the place.
The view from the press box, as this photo shows, was one of the best in baseball. It also was a convenient place to work. The clubhouses were only two flights of stairs down and a dugout another few flights further down from there. A few years ago, some of the beat writers ran a contest to see if somebody could make it from their seat in the press box to the field in less than 60 seconds. As I recall, it was doable if you hustled.
The people are nice here, too, and that won’t hopefully won’t change at the new yard. The old-timer security guard outside the visiting team clubhouse always had a few kinds words for “my friends from New York” and the same kindly woman in the press box has been in charge of the soda machine every since I started coming here.
Plus Twins mascot T.C. the Bear shows up in the press box from time to time and once shook my hand. Outside of Billy The Marlin and the Rally Monkey, T.C. is the best mascot in baseball. I also get a kick out of the small-market Twins introducing winning Little League teams before games or recognizing the state cop with the most DUI convictions.
I’m sure the new park will be great, most of them are. But the Metrodome wasn’t so bad.
lol at the bear
Pete, you’re moving too fast, and I can’t keep up!!!
From two (maybe 3) threads ago:
Randy l -
The only thing I have to say is why would a team be so malicious as to intentionally cause a player’s – a successful one at that – injury? Because, Randy l, that’s pretty much what you’re accusing Cashman of doing. Because he didn’t strike out enough hitters?
I’m not saying they handled his foot re-hab well or not, I have no idea. They got advice on a rare baseball injury and followed it in good faith. I will agree that perhaps they should have been more aggressive in noticing what was awry in spring training, but it’s also understandable that they believed inactivity and rust was to blame, and that as soon as he got back to strength he would be fine.
I believe they figured even if he wasn’t 100%, it would work itself out with time and pitching, but who could have imagined he be as bad as he was?
And the only thing I fault them for was having him come back from SWB too soon.
But he was making progress and even you mentioned here that he was making progress, that his arm slot was improving his velocity was improving and it was probably a matter of a couple of starts before Wang was close to back.
He has a history of shoulder problems.
It is incredibly unfortunate that his shoulder got injured. Especially since up to that point, he looked to be even closer to the Wang of old.
Instead of ranting about how Cashman is negligent, perhaps the shoulder injury is a blessing in disguise, because now he can rehab properly.
I know you hate Cashman, but you are assigning motives to him that I simply choose not to believe any GM is capable of.
I heard the opposite, that the Metrodome was awful.
Pete -
It sounds like a lot of those things you’ll miss are transferrable, because they’re more about the people of Minneapolis, Minnesota than about the stadium itself.
Hopefully a new stadium won’t be changing the character of the people in that city.
artificial turf that sends balls bouncing at odd angles.
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SO funny, since I think John Sterling said the ball takes a true bounce in the dome.
I’ve learned to take the opposite of what John says.
Another thing, if the Yankees get stuck playing an April game at the new stadium (which knowing the schedule makers they will), they’ll be wishing they were playing at the Metrodome.
Most parks >>>> Metrodome.
However,
Metrodome >>>> Carrier Dome >>>>> IZod Center >>>>> Shea Stadium
I traveled to Minnesota once on business and I have to say, that on the whole, Minnesotans are the nicest people I have ever met. Every single person I ran into was extremely friendly. Unfortunately, it was January and I could not wait to get out of that icebox!!
How the heck does Ortiz have 11 homeruns. Did he found a magic juice?
S.A. posted this in the prior thread, but I thought it was too stupid not to post again:
http://espn.go.com/sportsnatio.....-keith-law
Clayton (St Paul, MN)
So Girardi says Hughes has been a “one inning guy for awhile,” yet he starts Aceves. What’s up with that?
Keith Law(1:55 PM)
Protecting Hughes? He hasn’t shown anything as a starter this year to make you figure he’ll succeed if returned to the rotation.
They have a soda machine monitor?
jennifer…really odd that after he gets his eyes looked at…wink-wink…he starts to take off?
Jennifer,
He’s hitting bad pitching right now. Most of his better offensive games have been against bad teams with bad pitchers.
Guys with consistent stuff, ie: better pitchers, have had the upper hand on him all year.
If I were the Red Sox, I’d look hard for a bat because he’s not going to go on some monster tear in the second half.
Not unless he finds his missing bat speed, which is unlikely.
Target Field:
http://www.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=min
Should be “fun” in April and late September & October(that is, if they are playing in October)
sj44-
i know you love cashman , but the fact is cashman has never appreciated the way wang pitches. he’s always encouraged changing him from the low strikeout guy he was when he had success.
and you can’t possibly with your experience say the yankees have handled wang correctly this season.
why would you expect wang to stay healthy pitching out of an unnaturally high arm slot all year ?
that’s a recipe for disaster. we were always told it would come down . it never did. what’s your and cashman’s plan? pitch him until he breaks?
i realize you are excited by the overall success of the team , but personally i’m disgusted by the way wang was treated this year.
as i said before, cashman doesn’t deserve him and i believe it’s time for wang to move on for his own good.
SJ-We should be gald Ortiz is having a mini revival so that the Sox DON’T get a bat.
randy:
I would argue that Wang’s troubles this year stem from the foot injury last year, given that it was his push off foot.
You change the way you step on the mound, you change your entire delivery.
Ortiz had no problem hitting a 96 MPH heater from Burnett into the stands.
The guy is still a very talented player, just got off to a slow start. Nothing more. I’ll go out on a limp and predict he will have more HRs than Manny by the end of the year.
The Twins and their organization have been among the classy elite in baseball over the years.
A far cry from the delusionals of Bahhstin who do nothing but whine about the Yankees.
im gonna miss watching the yanks there cause i like playing on astro turf…its a fun quirk that you get to see and now there will be 1 less of them…toronto and tampa thats it
April
Average high= 57 degrees F; Average low= 36 degrees F; Average precipitation= 2.31 inches. Okay, don’t bring out the shorts yet, but you can lose the long underwear. April can be kind of gray and damp, but by the end of the month, signs of spring are everywhere. There’s plenty of annoying freezing rain.
http://minnesota-travel.suite1.....MB6&D
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It is going to be very interesting to see how many games get call in April due to freezing rain.
Part me of feels bad about sweeping the Twins. They are such a classy team/organization.
I wish we could save those sweeps for unlikeable teams like Boston, Angels, Baltimore, Tampa, etc.
As a fan – the Metrodome was terrible.
When I was there, I got a seat down the left field line. (lower level)
When I got to my seat, I realized I was facing CF – not homeplate! Everyone in the aisle was titled to the right in their seats to try and see anything going on in the infield. The batter’s box was pretty much impossible to see.
The seat aisles were long, so if someone say 25 or 30 seats to the right of you had to go to the concessions – everyone had to get up to let them by.
After three innings I gave up and went to the cheap seats upstairs behind home plate. My view was similar to Pete’s pic then.
I do agree on the people of Minnesota. Some of the nicest folks I met on my tour of 30 ballparks were in Minny.
Man what an advantage the Twins will have playing a team like Tampa or Anahiem in early April.
Aardvark-Want to make a wager? Manny has more HR’s than David Ortiz.
Loser must go on a blog for either the Sox or Dodgers and admit that player X is better.
As in, if Manny hits more you gon a blog for the Dodgers and admit Manny is better, if Papi wins I go on a Sox blog and admit Papi is better.
Deal?
“The only thing I have to say is why would a team be so malicious as to intentionally cause a player’s – a successful one at that – injury?”
doreen -
who said cashman intentionally caused an injury ?
i said he intentionally had him coached to pitch in a way as to get more k’s.
cashman has had his ear to the stat community all along that wang needed to be changed.
look, if you also love cashman and think he can do no wrong , be my guest, but i know that’s not the case.
Ourdoor baseball in Minnesota = bad idea
They should have just built another, nicer, dome.
gon is go on.
The Dome has always been a different place to watch a game. I moved out to the Twin Cities about a year ago and have caught about 10 games at the Dome – it’s just very strange to watch a game indoors. Stadium itself is a dump – very narrow concourses, poor food concessions, lacking a lot of amenities that the new generation of parks have.
That being said – some of the nicest fans in baseball. I had no problems talking with several Twins fans during both Tuesday and Wednesday’s games, despite me wearing my Yanks hat and jersey. Good group of fans that will greet you with a smile and they’re pretty smart fans.
Next year at Target Field will be absolutely great – really looking forward to outdoor baseball here in Minnesota, and I know every Twins fan I know can’t wait for it either.
Ugh, Boston killing KC 4-0, Papi not helping my wager with his 300th HR…that one is over.
If they Sox get a bat, get Roy Halladay to neutralize the bat.
4-2 now
DT -
You did a tour of 30 ballparks? How cool! One of my ambitions is to get to as many ballparks as possible.
4-3 now
“You change the way you step on the mound, you change your entire delivery.”
rebecca -
that pretty much says it.
wang pitched with a bad foot and resulting weak lower half and eventually his arm blew out.
it’s not rocket science.
i just think rather than just letting him pitch to see if anything breaks , a little proactive testing was in order which would have shown the problem with the foot still being there in spring training.
Is hersbeck the one that made incorrect calls against the Yankees?
Carl-Forget what I said about game over. I’m not worthy.
randy l -
I don’t think Cashman can do no wrong. But I don’t think he’s as anti-Wang as you seem to think. I may have overstated my case is saying you believe he intentionally caused his injury – I was making a leap of thought. And I apologize for misrepresenting.
“Is hersbeck the one that made incorrect calls against the Yankees?”
well it was marty foster who blew the jeter steal at third…not sure who the 2nd base ump was that day
….So it’s the laughter we will remember
whenever we remember
the way it was.
Dont bring up edwar now… the angles kill him…
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 9th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Carl-Forget what I said about game over. I’m not worthy.
lol
“If they Sox get a bat, get Roy Halladay to neutralize the bat.”
Agree. Which is why we will be in the thick of the Halladay race despite what the prospect groupies try and tell themselves.
“I do agree on the people of Minnesota. Some of the nicest folks I met on my tour of 30 ballparks were in Minny.”
How long did it take you?
I ask because me, my father and uncle all meet once a year to catch a game somewhere. It’s really my uncle’s quest and he complains that by the time he gets them all done, he’ll have to start anew because every team will have a new park.
Next weekend I’m going to PNC and Progressive. Safeco in Sept to catch the Yanks.
Gardy is a good clutch hitter. Just a nice fundamentally sound player
They should be the
Didn’t Prince Fielder hit a bunt single yesterday? lmao
I’m just sad that randy didn’t respond to my joke about Wang not being allowed to be Facebook friends anymore with Neil Allen.
Yeah Doreen – I’ve been to over 40 different parks. I used to have a ballpark website with pics, but it got too expensive to host and maintain.
Here are some Metrodome pics from my visit there.
http://tinyurl.com/nrmpo8
Jack-Jorge had an infield single today.
Just proves that iff you watch baseball long enough, anything is possible
You want to pick out one AB from Ortiz and pronouce him “back”?
That conveinently omits all of the AB’s all year that he has been late on fastballs.
Even Peter Gammons, the biggest Red Sox fan in the world, isn’t pronouncing him “back” because he knows his bat speed is gone.
You can occasionally guess, start your bat early, and hit a good fastball. Junior did last week in NY.
However, to consistently hit fastballs, which Ortiz has not done all year, its more than just guessing. You have to have bat speed and his bat speed is markedly down this year.
Hirschbeck’s crew has had as bad a week in NY and tourists who get mugged. He just blew a call at second that would have doubled off Furcal.
That’s 5 calls on the bases, and numerous ball/strike misses (one leading to Manny’s ejection) this week in NY.
Those guys should all be suspended a week without pay for their shoddy work this week.
10:05pm EST first pitch tomorrow night, those are always fun, good it falls on the weekend, they’re playing in a place that never has problems w/ weather, Southern California, hopefully AROD dodges the TMZ cameras
“Dont bring up edwar now… the angles kill him…”
seriously….he is not a fan of trigonometry….and the angels usually hit him harddd!
RalphieD (OPPC)
July 9th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
“Dont bring up edwar now… the angles kill him…”
seriously….he is not a fan of trigonometry….
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I bet he doesn’t even know what to do with a protractor. LOL
I do agree on the people of Minnesota. Some of the nicest folks I met on my tour of 30 ballparks were in Minny.
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That must have been so much fun. I wanna do something like that but, no time or money now.
Maybe down the road
DT -
Did you make sure you saw the Yankees when you went, or was it just about the parks? The times we’ve gone to games where it wasn’t a Yankee game, it was so much easier to just enjoy the atmosphere – take in the park and the people – without worrying about the outcome of the game.
Nephew watch….
2-2, 2 2B, a walk, an RBI and a run scored so far tonight. Now hitting .400 for the year. His team is winning 3-2 in the 5th.
One of the Yanks brightest and youngest of the pitchers is going for Charleston tonight. Perfect after two innings with a 2-0 lead.
7-3 record after 14 starts.
76 innings now.
66 strikeouts
15 walks
WHIP .98
HRA 2
Hits allowed 59
Runs 26
Earned Runs 18
ERA 2.14
Not bad for a kid that just turned 18 in March.
He’s a lefty. On the down side, he’s 5’10″ and 155 pounds.
Throws a consistant 91-92 MPH with a curve, changeup and the 2 fastballs.
Pena 1 for 3 with a k
AJax 1 for 3….just hit a ball to dead center and it was caught in front of the wall…if he hit it any other spot it would of been gone
RalphieD (OPPC)
Hardy har har har. I type too fast sometimes.
My father just told me that my sister is at the Mets game tonight. She always claims that she doesn’t care about baseball, but goes to the Mets games because her friends want to. This is her first trip to Citifield, but she went to Shea 5 times last season.
I have a nagging suspiscion, that she is not actually indifferent to baseball. Instead, I think she might be a deeply closeted Mets fan. I am very worried
“I bet he doesn’t even know what to do with a protractor. LOL”
who torre? oh wait…thats a proctor…lol
“Hardy har har har. I type too fast sometimes.”
DT -
Nice pics. Thank.
I have a nagging suspiscion, that she is not actually indifferent to baseball. Instead, I think she might be a deeply closeted Mets fan. I am very worried
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You need to nip it in the bud ASAP
Intervention time!
Erica -
This doesn’t look like the year to force her out of the closet.
GB,
He’s going to be an interesting kid to follow the next couple of years.
Most teams don’t like to draft RH pitchers under 6-1. However, lefties can be on the small side if they can throw strikes.
I saw one of his game this year and couldn’t believe he was 18. I really like him.
If he can stay healthy, he’s going to be a Top 10 prospect going into ST next year, IMO.
Very impressive kid.
The ballpark tour is awesome but I have no desire to go to Texas or Arizona to see a baseball game.
I wish New Orleans had a team. Losing Montreal was tough as that’s a great city.
Linececum is a scrawny dude.
Bronx Jeers
“How long did it take you?
I ask because me, my father and uncle all meet once a year to catch a game somewhere. It’s really my uncle’s quest and he complains that by the time he gets them all done, he’ll have to start anew because every team will have a new park.
Next weekend I’m going to PNC and Progressive. Safeco in Sept to catch the Yanks.”
I did it over many years, Bronx. For awhile, I went to the All Star Game every year (12 years in a row) and hit a few parks each summer.
PNC and Safeco are two of my favorites. They did it right when they built those two. (Camden Yards is still tops in my book, but those two are awesome) Enjoy!
GB7 & SJ44 –
What is the problem with size? Why do the have to be over 6 feet and lots of pounds?
Isn’t Tim Lincecum on the smaller side?
Seems to me that they may be losing out on some really good pitchers by automatically writing them off due to size, or lack thereof.
On Umpires:
Why don’t they have homeplate ball/strike specialists? Do an analysis of which umpires do the best job at calling balls and strikes and have only them behind the plate. Pay them more and make it something for other umpires to aspire to?
SA & Doreen-
Seriously. I don’t understand her. I mean, I am so grateful I was born a Yankee fan. She just throws that away. One time my dad and I were planning to attend a game, but weren’t sure if she would want to go too, so we waited before purchasing the tickets to talk to her. When she got home we asked her if she wanted to go to the game with us. She made a face and asked “Do I have to?”
I just don’t get it!!! Why would someone actually choose to cheer for another team?? I truly believe that fandom is a gene passed from generation to generation.
Although, there is a Shake Shack in CitiField so score one for them
“One of the Yanks brightest and youngest of the pitchers is going for Charleston tonight. Perfect after two innings with a 2-0 lead.
7-3 record after 14 starts.
76 innings now.
66 strikeouts
15 walks
WHIP .98
HRA 2
Hits allowed 59
Runs 26
Earned Runs 18
ERA 2.14
Not bad for a kid that just turned 18 in March.
He’s a lefty. On the down side, he’s 5?10? and 155 pounds.
Throws a consistant 91-92 MPH with a curve, changeup and the 2 fastballs.”
That pitcher, Manuel Banuelos came in the same package that netted us Alfredo Aceves and Jorge Vazquez who is tearing up AA to the point that it makes Montero look puny.
Whatever scout the Yankees sent to Mexico, he deserves one heck of a raise.
doreen-
no problem.
i just refuse to let the wang thing fall by the wayside just because the yankees are on a roll ( which is very nice by the way).
i believe it was gross negligence on the yankees’ part the way they handled wang this year.
what’s funny is that some say hughes shouldn’t be treated badly and stretched out too fast if he’s needed to start the way joba was last year.
who did that last year to joba?
it was cashman.
he makes a lot of mistakes with how he develops pitchers and is very random how pitchers are used . it seems when an injury to a starter comes up some young guy gets rushed or is doing something no one ever expected him to do.
i believe he’s pushed wang past the point of no return.
i’ll be very surprised to ever see him pitch well for any extended time with the yankees.
that said, the yankees should still make the playoffs this year without wang.
it’s a good year which it should be with the free agents signed, but it’s a shame what’s happened with wang.
ill be back later guys…lets go Royals!
Only a AAA team like the Royals couldn’t consistently crush the straight fastballs that Penny is serving up tonight.
Terrible team, the Royals. Just awful.
“Seriously. I don’t understand her. I mean, I am so grateful I was born a Yankee fan. She just throws that away. One time my dad and I were planning to attend a game, but weren’t sure if she would want to go too, so we waited before purchasing the tickets to talk to her. When she got home we asked her if she wanted to go to the game with us. She made a face and asked “Do I have to?”
I just don’t get it!!! Why would someone actually choose to cheer for another team?? I truly believe that fandom is a gene passed from generation to generation.”
Totally, totally, totally disagree.
I’ll give you my family story.
Both sides of my family have Brooklyn roots. Almost all of my extended family that lives in the NYC area are Mets fans.
But I became a Yankee fan because my older brother was one.
What’s weird, is that in that vein I should have also been a Rangers and a Giants fan, but I’m not. I like the Devils and the Jets.
“Bronx Jeers July 9th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
The ballpark tour is awesome but I have no desire to go to Texas or Arizona to see a baseball game.
I wish New Orleans had a team. Losing Montreal was tough as that’s a great city.”
I had friends that actually like the ballpark at Arlington, they were in Dallas last weekend and caught a game.I’ve also heard Arizona’s is pretty nice also w/ the pool in the outfield, kind of cool…that’s the great thing about baseball, all the uniqueness of different ballparks across the country
I need to go back to saying how the Royals have no shot.
The game is over. Over!
Speaking of the Mets, I saw in the paper today that Dykstra is finally succumbing to Chapter 11 protection.
I remember seeing him on RealSports last year and how he had become some wizard financier.
To me he seemed a bit mentally challenged.
Fast forward to a couple of weeks back and RealSports does a follow up piece showing Dystra in an empty house suffering from what appeared to be paranoia.
Bizarre stuff.
Hi all, I was just coming home from work and heard two things on 1050 that made me feel a little vindicated.
1. The guy with Adam the Bull suggested the same trade I suggested yesterday on this blog. Hughes, montero, AJax, and Melky for Wells and Doc. While I was told I was on acid yesterday Adam said the Jays wouldn’t do it because it’s in their division… Moron
2. Jim Duquette then goes on the show and tells Adam that Lucciano wouldn’t havy any problem making a deal with the Yanks or Red Sox because he would be crippling their future (obviously smart reason). But them said the Yanks didn’t have the pieces to make a trade!!!!
It was hilarious to hear Adam look like an idiot when Duquette completely went against what he said.
SJ44
July 9th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
GB,
He’s going to be an interesting kid to follow the next couple of years.
Most teams don’t like to draft RH pitchers under 6-1. However, lefties can be on the small side if they can throw strikes.
I saw one of his game this year and couldn’t believe he was 18. I really like him.
If he can stay healthy, he’s going to be a Top 10 prospect going into ST next year, IMO.
Very impressive kid.
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Yes, and he’s a nice, polite kid. Quiet and shy. Tyson does a great job with these young kids as far as making sure they keep their heads on straight. They all talk to the fans, sign autographs, extremely polite. tyson controls them like a father with his kids.
Within the next couple of years, hopefully Banuelos will add a couple of inches and with a proper diet, add 20 pounds of muscle.
I’d say that the Yanks did pretty well growing small lefties, though….Whitey Ford, Al Downing and Ron Guidry.
I am one of those fans who HAS to e a fan of the teams I actually am a fan of (Yanks, Giants, Devils).
I can’t imagine just deciding that I’m done and switching teams. I really can’t get my mind around that thought. ow can you do that?
I guess it’s because it’s in my blood.
Well he sounded like an idiot anyway. Paused and said wow I didn’t think you would say that, Jim.
Rebecca-
I do understand that argument. My dad loves the Jets while his older brother loves the Giants. I once asked how that happened. It was because my dad was getting into football right as Joe Namath got popular. So he sort of jumped on the Jets bandwagon and never unjumped.
Doreen
July 9th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
DT -
Did you make sure you saw the Yankees when you went, or was it just about the parks?
Doreen –
I try to see the Yanks if I can, but it wasn’t a prerequisite.
Many of the retired parks I’ve seen were Yankee games.
Erica-she might be under the spell of a mets poltergeist. Call the priest
randy l -
It is a shame what happened to Wang. And Cashman has made some questionable decisions (bringing up Hughes in 2007 when he said he would not). But I don’t think Wang is finished, and I sure hope he is not finished as a Yankee.
But if he is, maybe it will be better for him to have a fresh start after all this.
Cashman has done some good things, and I don’t think he makes the same mistake twice. But the first mistake is somewhat painful. (Joba vs. Hughes being stretched out.) I don’t think Cash makes his decisions in a vacuum, and perhaps its the cadre of advisors that should be looked at.
DB-Not Montero. Montero is a special player. You can’t trade him.
It wasn’t just Cashman, Randy.
You make it sound like he makes all of these decisions himself, independent of any advice.
That’s simply not true.
Doctors tell him what they would do and he follows doctors orders when it comes to the players. If you have a beef, take it up with the doctors.
Brian Cashman is not going to overrule a doctor over anything when it comes to players.
The entire organization panicked and brought Wang back too early. You want to pin that on him, fine.
However, it was the doctors orders, which Cashman followed, that recommended Wang not engage in heavy off-season workouts on his legs. That wasn’t a Brian Cashman decision. He dosen’t design the players off-season workout programs.
When Cashman seeks reports on the health of the players, or their conditioning, he’s getting that info from the staff.
He dosen’t have any idea what’s going day to day because he’s not traveling with the team.
Bringing back Wang early? No question they screwed up.
His shoulder injury? He’s always had a bad shoulder. That’s nothing new and that’s not on him.
I like the guy but, I also know he’s not perfect.
He’s also not responsible for every single thing that goes wrong simply because you don’t like the guy.
I’m sorry he fired Neil Allen but, the guy has completely turned the farm system around they have the third best record in baseball right now.
He’s got to be doing something right.
WTTCTOHA-
Yankee fandom is definitely in my blood. My great uncle was an usher at the real stadium from the early 1930s until the renovation. That man got some amazing memorabilia. But I always say Yankee love is in my blood. There is no one in my family tree that does not love the Yankees. Except for maybe my sister…grr
“due to your preexisting arrogance , lets just say you could put what you know about developing pitchers into a thimble and there’d be room to spare.”
This comment was totally unnecessary. I am making no claim on my own knowledge of pitching. I pitched in high school, I’ve watched a TON of baseball but that’s it. I’m not claiming to be some expert, YOU ARE.
I am not the one making claims that Wang’s arm angle destroyed his shoulder, YOU ARE. And considering you aren’t a doctor or an expert on shoulder injuries I don’t see why we should trust your opinion.
I mean, does anyone else here believe that Cashman caused Wang’s shoulder injury?
Get off your high horse dude, I’m not the one showing arrogance here, YOU ARE.
“1. The guy with Adam the Bull suggested the same trade I suggested yesterday on this blog. Hughes, montero, AJax, and Melky for Wells and Doc. While I was told I was on acid yesterday Adam said the Jays wouldn’t do it because it’s in their division… Moron”
Giving up WAY too much to get WAY too little there.
I subscribe to the Yankees radio network emails. this is what it said.
Suzyn Waldman Interview – July 8
2009-07-08 19:53:00-04
Suzyn welcomes back from the disabled list, Yankees 3rd baseman, Jose Molina.
Erica -
Not necessarily genetic. My FIL was a die-hard Brooklyn Dodgers/NY Mets Fan/Yankees hater. My husband, his only son, grew up a Yankees fan. To my FIL’s credit, he brought my husband to YS a few times, and my husband returned the favor later on, bring my FIL to Shea, before he passed on.
Fandome is a learned behavior – nurture, not nature.
BA has apparently listed Banuelos as the #13 player in the yankee organization.
He just gave up his first hit and walk. (a flair to center).
Joseph and Lassiter are the main bats so far tonight.
No one will take Wells in a deal for Doc. Rios maybe, Wells no.
Watching the replay. Just saw Mauer’s bunt.
Not that Ransom was going to throw out Mauer but did Ransom really think that ball had a chance to roll foul?
Doreen-
Your husband is obviously a good guy. I am not sure I would take someone to a Mets game. I don’t even allow the Mets to be shown on my TV (unless they are playing the Yankees- DUH!)
I would like to see Rios traded, just because then maybe Michael Kay will stop calling him the Yankee killer
Until an actual market forms for Halladay, nobody knows anything. Its just guesses.
Most of the guesses from some won’t even be in the same stratosphere of what a deal may be.
This is something that is weeks away from happening, if at all.
“I’m just sad that randy didn’t respond to my joke about Wang not being allowed to be Facebook friends anymore with Neil Allen.”
nick in sf-
peter put up so many posts, it was hard to keep up.
you know i wouldn’t miss one of your witty barbs if i could help it.
too bad that you and i weren’t facebook friends so i could have the joy of pressing the button to delete you
How many teams can actually afford to take on Halladay and Wells??
“too bad that you and i weren’t facebook friends so i could have the joy of pressing the button to delete you”
LOL!
I once broke up with a guy and told him I was deleting him from my phone, my AIM and my myspace. I told him I would like to add him to my facebook, just so I could delete him from that too
Erica – always OPPC
July 9th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
I would like to see Rios traded, just because then maybe Michael Kay will stop calling him the Yankee killer
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If Rios would stop being a Yankee killer, he could stay in Toronto.
Jesus randy did Cashman kill your dog or something? I’m serious, your hatred for the guy is approaching an obsession. It’s really unhealthy.
Interesting baseball oddity-
The Nationals and Astros are picking up on a postponed game from a few months ago. Elijah Dukes has since then been sent to the minors and is obviously out of the lineup.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,175737
Banuelos is a bit wild tonight. Only 1 strikeout and has walked two batters for the first time in 8 starts.
So RandyL hates Cashman because he fired Neil Allen?
“Due to your preexisting biases towards the organization”
patrick-
when you throw out arrogant know it all insults, expect it to come right back at you.
if you can’t take it don’t start it.
dude.
Erica,
I take it you didn’t part friends with him?
In my dating days, it seems that it was much easier to delete someone from your life that it is today!
KC ties it up
Oh, I agree with you all, its too much for too little since Wells contract is ridiculously bad. But, talent for talent, there is nothing wrong with it if you could lock up Doc for 5 years. I know Montero is special, but is he the next Johnny Bench for real?
What had me gasping for air was that idiot Adam completely dismissing it because THE JAYS WOULDN’T TRADE WITH THE YANKS..then Duquette, a former GM, said THE YANKS DON’T HAVE THE PIECES!
I swear, if a radio show is going to hire a radio host they should know what they are talking about and I can see why Duquette is no longer a GM.
Erica -
Dirty little not-so-secret is that I started baseball life as a Mets fan in 1969. Yup, at 13 I jumped on the Amazin’ Mets bandwagon. The teachers in school had the games on and it was so intoxicating. And I stuck with the Mets up until the time my first child was born, at which time I became a baseball bystander. I glanced at games, skimmed the standings, but didn’t really pay attention. My little bundle and then bundles of joy took all my time and attention. As I was turning my attention elsewhere, the games on the tv became more and more of the Yankees variety. By the time I was ready to turn my attentions elsewhere I literally had no idea who anyone was on the Mets, but absolutely knew Derek Jeter, et al. So, I became a Yankees fan by osmosis.
I always have a bit of a soft spot for the Mets; I can never hate them. But I can never go back either.
Jackson is 1-3
Pena is 1-3
Cervelli is 1-2 with an RBI, but, he needs to realize that he’s not a base stealer.
de Caster is 2-3 with a homer.
Did randy l go to the Cashman/Eliand meat and great last month?
KC 7-5
Royals tie the game.
nice david dejesus!!
how bout that Sox bullpen?
4 runs allowed in the 6th to blow the lead
7-5 Royals
Erica, also the winning pitcher is no longer on the team! Hanrahan I believe
tampayank July 9th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
“I had friends that actually like the ballpark at Arlington, they were in Dallas last weekend and caught a game.I’ve also heard Arizona’s is pretty nice also w/ the pool in the outfield, kind of cool…that’s the great thing about baseball, all the uniqueness of different ballparks across the country”
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I’m sure those are all great parks. They look cool on TV. I just don’t want to go to Phoenix, Dallas, Houston.
Not that I feel there’s anything wrong with those towns, I’m sure there all fine but if heading in that direction, I’m flying over it all and going to Mexico.
KC knocked Brad in the 5th,they are on their 2rd pitcher
kc 7 rs 5
“when you throw out arrogant know it all insults, expect it to come right back at you.
if you can’t take it don’t start it.
dude. ”
randy,
How is that an arrogant know-it-all insult? You have made it very very clear to everyone on this blog how you feel about Brian Cashman. Don’t you think that your bias against him could influence your opinion on this subject?
I have yet to see one person agree with your statement that Cashman is the cause of Wang’s shoulder injury.
Someone please chime in if you think Cashman and Eiland told Wang to throw in a higher arm slot thus causing Wang to hurt his shoulder. Considering the fact that Eiland has acknowledged Wang’s arm-slot problems and is trying to fix them I’d be surprised if anyone agrees with you randy. Not to mention the fact that Wang has pre-existing shoulder troubles…
I’m not the one lashing out with insults here and I’d appreciate it if you did the same.
SJ44 -
But all that deleting that can be done these days – actual physical acts of deletion and, shudder, blocking, must be very cathartic! All I could do “back in the day” was tear up a few photographs!!
That’s how the saying goes, Doreen. Once to try Yankees, you never go backee.
Woops i must be behind on MLBtv in HD. Yay Royals!
Doreen-
I don’t think rooting for the Mets in 1969 is that terrible. I can see how easy it would have been for a young, impressionable girl to get thrown onto that bandwagon.
I always had a love for the Yankees, but as a kid didn’t really watch much baseball. When the strike messed with baseball in 1994, I realized I missed it. I picked it up with a venegence in 1995 as the Yankees were getting good and was addicted to the playoffs that year. When Derek Jeter came along in 1996, they stole my heart forever
RS on 3rd pitcher kc7-rs 5
“Until an actual market forms for Halladay, nobody knows anything. Its just guesses.”
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it seems like the teams that are interested are already making a list of untouchables that include their top prospects.
Maria July 9th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Woops i must be behind on MLBtv in HD. Yay Royals!
Yeah if you turn off Nexdef it plays in real time.
DB
July 9th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Erica, also the winning pitcher is no longer on the team! Hanrahan I believe
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Correct. Could he still get the win if applicable???
Sj44-
No, we definitely did not remain friends
“So RandyL hates Cashman because he fired Neil Allen?”
all kidding aside, what yankee fan thinks firing the guy who taught wang the sinker was a good idea especially when what he taught wang was unorthodox.
who else knows what makes wang tick ?
guidry?
guidry is a close friend of allen and i’m sure they talked about wang if guidry had any questions.
i don’t hate cashman. i just don’t have much respect for the kind of guy he is.
…and i just don’t think he’s synonymous with the yankees.
they are not called the new york cashmans are they?
let me just say that Ric Petersen is regarded as one of, if not THE worst pitching coaches of all-time
Boston fans will believe Yogi’s paraphrased line. “A Penny isn’t worth a dime anymore.”
No you’re right, they are called the New York Niel Allens.
Pete wrote me back today in response to my Damon eyesight inquiry.
He thinks Damon’s fielding problems are mostly due to calf/leg problems
Boston Dave 2.0
July 9th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
“Until an actual market forms for Halladay, nobody knows anything. Its just guesses.”
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it seems like the teams that are interested are already making a list of untouchables that include their top prospects.
Except the Yanks. Haven’t heard a peep out of Cashman about it. Just speculation from just about every beat writer.
edwar is pitching now…if the yanks do make a roster move, chances are it wont be edwar
“Except the Yanks. Haven’t heard a peep out of Cashman about it. Just speculation from just about every beat writer.”
Don’t forget the world famous LoHud Yankee blog speculation!!!!!!!!
I love how Cash doesn’t negotiate in the media. He so underrated as a GM.
I’m liking KC,they came to play!
Even if the RS win,KC smacked them good!
In your defense randy l., I can see your disdain for Cashman. He is a beady eyed little guy with a Napolean complex who has got some tough talk. Can’t deny his track record with the team though. Especially there record since his appearance in Atlanta. What have they lost since then, 2 games?
RalphieD (OPPC)
July 9th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
edwar is pitching now…if the yanks do make a roster move, chances are it wont be edwar
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That sound you just heard is the Yankee universe breathing a collective sigh of relief
It seems the Phillies are interested in Pedro.
That would be interesting.
When the Twins played in the old Metropolitan Stadium, and the weather was nice, it was a beautiful ballpark.
I’m glad the new park will be outdoors. However, now that our esteemed Baseball Commissioner has seen fit to schedule the World Series into NOVEMBER, God help us if Minnesota gets in the WS again. Well, even New York in November is going to be a nightmare for you guys out there who are lucky enough to get tickets. Snow during the World Series? Could happen!
Oh, for the days of day World Series games early in Oct. Guess those days are over for good.
Doreen,
Good point! LOL
Randy,
Eiland never taught Wang to change his arm slot. Never. The guy just couldn’t find his slot after he got hurt.
They kept working and working with him and they were beginning to get him back and then his shoulder, a chronic injury, cropped up.
The Yankees have been very open about this.
Its nobody’s fault.
It isn’t like say, the Twins having Francisco Liriano pitch September games with a torn elbow ligament because “it couldn’t get any worse” (their story) and the guy has never come back from his second TJ surgery to be what he once was.
That’s from an organization like the Twins.
How would you like to be Francisco Liriano today? ‘Ya think he has some issues with the way he was treated by the Twins?
They took a guy who was the next Johan Santana and turned him into Kei Igawa.
The Yankees screwed up Wang’s rehab by bringing him back to soon. Everybody acknowledges that.
However, his shoulder and his arm slot issues are not on the Yankees. One is a chronic issue and one was the byproduct of losing the feel for pitching.
If there was going to be a taker for Pedro, wouldn’t it have happened already? Realistically-
Pepitone
July 9th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
When the Twins played in the old Metropolitan Stadium, and the weather was nice, it was a beautiful ballpark.
I’m glad the new park will be outdoors. However, now that our esteemed Baseball Commissioner has seen fit to schedule the World Series into NOVEMBER, God help us if Minnesota gets in the WS again. Well, even New York in November is going to be a nightmare for you guys out there who are lucky enough to get tickets. Snow during the World Series? Could happen!
Oh, for the days of day World Series games early in Oct. Guess those days are over for good.
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Remember when playoff games ended before midnight???
Dude
If the premise of Randy’s argument is the Yankees screwed up Wang’s re-hab, then put me in Randy’s corner.
Complete bush league move by the Mets, they could get Orlando Hudson so they hurt him w/ a fastball to the knee.
SJ, I think the Yanks were relieved on some level he had a twinge in the shoulder. Now, they can rehab him the right way. No reason to screw it up now.
Its going to be “fun” to see April games in Minnesota when the grounds crew is using snow removal equipment to get the field ready to play.
Also, I’m sure their pitchers are going to love 35 degree night games, with the wind whipping off the lake, after spending the spring in Fort Myers.
If there was ever a place that needed a retractable roof stadium, it was Minnesota.
“That sound you just heard is the Yankee universe breathing a collective sigh of relief”
oh thank goodness..i thought i had a draft in here.
“Dirty little not-so-secret is that I started baseball life as a Mets fan in 1969. ”
Doreen – the important thing is you have stepped forward and admitted your mistake. Fellow Yankee fans stand behind you.
There were men landing on the moon, there was flower power and Woodstock, Charlie Manson was doing his cult thing – suffice to say it was a loosey goosey era – you deserve a pass.
The report (multiple) on Pedro was that the Phillies were impressed with a simulated game he pitched in the DR today. He was throwing 89-91. One source has him signed by the Phillies already
Don’t worry about baseball games in Minnesota in November.
Unless you’re about to be drafted by the Twins or the Twins shift to the NL, if there’s baseball in the Twin Cities in late October/November it means by default the Yankees wouldn’t be involved.
“If there was ever a place that needed a retractable roof stadium, it was Minnesota.”
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I guess the Minny announcers that were ripping the new YS, prob should have kept their mouths shut.
“Brian Cashman is not going to overrule a doctor over anything when it comes to players.
The entire organization panicked and brought Wang back too early. You want to pin that on him, fine.”
sj-
i do believe that someone is in charge at all times and that someone is cashman.
doctors and staff report to cashman and he makes final decisions. that’s what leaders do.
cashman made bad decisions with wang just like the one you said he made with joba last summer rushing his being stretched out.
if you’re saying he lets organization decisions get decided by doctors and staff without his final say, then that’s an odd way to run an organization.
why have a gm?
wow edwar is getting smacked around
Agreed with everything SJ44 just said.
Tarheelyank,
The premise of his argument is that Cashman and Eiland either told Wang to throw in a higher arm slot or didn’t care that he was throwing in a higher arm slot. By doing this, Wang hurt his shoulder. So in essence it is Cashman/Eiland’s fault that Wang hurt his shoulder. Why the GM would be telling Wang what arm slot he should throw in, I have no idea.
randy please correct me if I’m wrongly representing your argument.
Also, I’m sure their pitchers are going to love 35 degree night games, with the wind whipping off the lake, after spending the spring in Fort Myers.
Forget the pitchers, I have never heard a hitter like to hit in the cold. Picture Posada with no gloves and his hands bright red….ouch
Phillies want Pedro to throw for them again and he said “no”. Not sure where that leaves them now.
I’m so confused.
I thought Boston was too good of a team to allow 12 hits through 6 1/3 while trailing 7-5 to a mediocre team.
“If the premise of Randy’s argument is the Yankees screwed up Wang’s re-hab, then put me in Randy’s corner.”
welcome to the bandwagon. it’s a little empty right now so pick any seat
Why would Cashman get involve with Wang’s arm slot? He’s not a pitching coach.
Does the good old Minnesota brass think baseball on 35 degree nights will help their attendance problems??
Randy,
GM’s don’t tell doctors what to do. All bosses delegate.
When it comes to medical issues, he is going to defer to the experts.
That’s what SMART leaders do. They don’t go outside their field of expertise to make decisions.
As far as Joba being stretched out, do you really think Cash made that decision independent of Eiland, Harkey, Contreras and Girardi? Of course he didn’t. They made the recommendation of what they think should be done and he made the call to do it.
Brian Cashman is not sitting in the YS Offices telling the medical staff how to treat the players. That’s outside his field of expertise and he’s not going there.
Put it to you another way…..
They convene for meetings for the draft. The people who work on the draft come up with their recommendations……
Brian Cashman has NEVER seen these kids play. He’s going to go off the recommendations of the scouting staff and give them the baton to make the choices. Brian’s job is to make sure the money is in place to sign the players….
You really think Brian Cashman is going to give the scouting staff autonomy to make decisions and take over ALL the medical decisions himself?
Its not even logical and no GM is going there.
pat
July 9th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Phillies want Pedro to throw for them again and he said “no”. Not sure where that leaves them now.
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Is Pedro suddenly in a position to be picky??? Or is he maybe realizing he doesn’t care anymore
Cash is King
July 9th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Why would Cashman get involve with Wang’s arm slot? He’s not a pitching coach.
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Thank you, Cash is King, that is my question too.
Randy, can you answer that?
“Also, I’m sure their pitchers are going to love 35 degree night games, with the wind whipping off the lake, after spending the spring in Fort Myers.”
I know Minny is the land of 10,000 lakes but I don’t remember one in downtown Minneapolis.
I forgot the Royals have Juan Cruz
SJ44,
Thank you for being the voice of reason in this argument.
Unfortunately randy thinks I am insulting him in every post so he doesn’t listen or respond but you are doing fine by yourself
What do you think the future is for Wang? Will he come back this year? IF he does come back how effective will he be? Will he ever be the 19 game winner from years past?
I still think Wang has a future. I believe he will be back in the Yankees rotation by the end of the season
Randy, I apologize for doubting your consistent appreciation of my barbs.
But I feel insulted by your next comment. Not that you wish you could delete me as a Facebook friend, but that you tried to sneak USED material past me.
The fact that you didn’t think I was worth your A game, that’s what really hurt.
“I forgot the Royals have Juan Cruz”
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yeah, and he will be facing some patient hitters in the 8th if they bring him in.
I hope he isn’t a walks machine.
How are you all watching the Sox vs Oakland? Do you have an online package of the MLB extra innings thru cable?
Lets think sweep vs the Angels this weekend and adjust our depending on the outcome of the games.
Cash is the boss. If somebody that he hires screws up, he needs to take the heat for it.
Having ssid that, IMO Eiland is the one that really should be getting the heat for all the drama with out staff this year. Until Cash does something about it, it’s his fault.
Banuelos is finished for the night, leaving before he qualified for a win. 4 innings, 2 hits, on run (earned), 2 walks, 2 strikeouts. Charleston leads 6-1.
Nothing wrong with him. He just reached his pitch count (75-80) limit a little early tonight.
Cruz’ stats are mediocre. That’s the guy everyone was pining for the Yanks to get in the offseason?
Also, Banuelos is pitching Sunday at the Future’s game.
“How are you all watching the Sox vs Oakland?”
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vs Kansas City
Erica, pull up Gameday
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....de=gameday
“Cruz’ stats are mediocre. That’s the guy everyone was pining for the Yanks to get in the offseason?”
I wasn’t pining for him. He’s has a live fastball, but half the time, he doesn’t know where it’s going.
“Also, Banuelos is pitching Sunday at the Future’s game.”
I can’t wait to see him at this game. I haven’t been more hyped for a SP prospect at the Futures Game since Yussse.
“The Yankees screwed up Wang’s rehab by bringing him back to soon. Everybody acknowledges that.”
sj44-
they also screwed up in a big way by not testing his strength levels at the beginning of spring training to see if he was ready to throw.
he clearly wasn’t, so that’s on the yankees as much as bringing him up too soon when joba was hurt.
pitching with a weak lower half in spring training is what everyone ultimately agreed caused the high arm slot.
if the yankees would have tested for weakness, they would have found a weak hip.
they didn’t test.
that leaves it on them.
the high arm slot never went away. it sometimes lowered a little, but never got back down to his natural slot.
i first noticed the high arm slot in an early spring training game and said so on the blog.
it was so high it looked very weird.
you can’t have a pitcher continue to pitch with an unnatural arm slot caused by a foot injury and not get injuries somewhere else. if he had a history of shoulder injuries as you say, all the more reason to test him to see if the foot and lower half were ok.
the whole year for wang from the start was a botched affair by the yankees. the yankees have in effect burned a #2 starter simply though negligence.
and Cruz comes through getting Youkilis out with Pedroia on 1st.
they go to the 8th.
Ah DB- you are fake watching
Patrick,
I think he has to get healthy first.
Sometimes, guys just have a lost year.
Everything has gone wrong for the kid this year….
He got hurt and a Liz Franc fracture is a serious injury.
He got completely hosed by his agent in his arbitration hearing.
The Yankees did a poor job with him in ST, brought him north too early and he may have had the worst start of a season of any pitcher in the history of baseball. Confidence shattering stuff.
He then goes to Scranton, they rush him back, and he has to rehab on the fly in NY. Not easy.
About the only thing that went right for him was he became a dad.
Just as he was pitching his best game of the year, his shoulder injury cropped up again.
All Asian pitchers have funky, tough mechanics. Its a really challenge for them when they get hurt.
There are so many moving parts to their deliveries, any upset in them causes problems.
We’ve seen with Hideo Nomo, Irabu, and Dice-K.
For Wang, he has to be 100% healthy before he even thinks about pitching in a ML game again.
I say this because your confidence can only take so many hits.
It took Phil Hughes 2 years and a meltdown in Baltimore to finally be able to feel healthy enough in his legs and mind to let it loose.
I may take Wang until next year to really make it back. However, with hard work, I think he can.
I wouldn’t give up on him yet if I was the Yankees.
“they also screwed up in a big way by not testing his strength levels at the beginning of spring training to see if he was ready to throw.”
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I can’t remember – how did he look and how did he do in spring training?
The great Youkalis couldn’t recognize a pitch a foot out of the strike zone?
Marty Foster just threw out Sheffield for argueing balls and strikes.
The picture on MLB.TV Hi-Def is truly outstanding
Jewklis strikes out to end the inning
Erica – always OPPC
July 9th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
How are you all watching the Sox vs Oakland? Do you have an online package of the MLB extra innings thru cable?
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If they’re watching Oakland and the sox, they’re watching it on a replay.
Sox are playing KC. What are you? A troublemaker? No, Erica they drew a four game series with KC this weekend. Haven’t you seen all of the whining about why the Sox get the lowly A’s and Royals at Fenway, but, those meany schedule makers are having NYY play in Minnesota and Anaheim?
randy l.
July 9th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
“If the premise of Randy’s argument is the Yankees screwed up Wang’s re-hab, then put me in Randy’s corner.”
welcome to the bandwagon. it’s a little empty right now so pick any seat
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Maybe if you put on a
face more would join. 
The thing that makes me wonder about Eiland-
He was brought on in 2008 after being the triple A pitching coach because he had worked with the young guys so much (IPK, Joba, Hughes) and it was thought they would develop much better with him here.
IPK did not last here long. Joba and Hughes are still developing and its soon to make any final decisions, but not sure what real benefit Eiland had by being here. If anything, I think they did better with Guidry
“Jewklis strikes out to end the inning”
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classy
Haha GB7. Good catch.
You are right, I forgot the Sox are currently taking advantage of their soft schedule and playing only lousy teams. They will go 20-0 for sure
And not ashamed to admit it, Erica.
Gameday is the best invention since sliced bread if you ask me. I follow games on it while watching it on TV too.
Shows you how bad the umps are. Its not perfect but I find the radar gun better than YES and the locations pretty darn good.
What is this belt Pete refers too that Albaladejo was awarded?
Please fill me in?
Doris from Rego Park
July 9th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Jewklis strikes out to end the inning
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You’re all class, aren’t you?
Just get the ball to Soria KC…just get it to Soria.
Regarding Wang, I do believe they screwed up his rehab the first time and screwed up again by bringing him back too soon after Joba left that game early.
Drawing a definite line from that to Wang hurting his shoulder is theoretical, not provable.
The decision to bring Wang up early was another little moment that might look like a sad turning point later on.
Hopefully not.
The pitching staff numbers were better last year than any year Guidry was here and they had a patchwork staff.
This year, despite playing in homer haven, their staff numbers have been in the Top 5 in the league since Mid-May.
They have the third best record in baseballl and the pitching staff numbers have gone down each month of the season.
Somebody is doing something right.
If the guy is gonna get hammered for failures, isn’t it only fair to give him props for success?
Doris from Rego Park
I hope you get banned
Play nice Doris.
The correct terminology is Pukelis.
DB-
I used to follow games on Gameday during weekday afternoon games. Then I discovered the Audio package and went for that thinking I would be so much more productive at work if I could listen to the games.
Although, today was good proof that I still don’t do much work when I am listening to games
“Not that you wish you could delete me as a Facebook friend, but that you tried to sneak USED material past me.”
nick in sf-
used material?
what used material?
at least i didn’t go all haiku on everyone and post in threes for a month.
Whats not classy abou that calling him Jewklis? As a jew, I take pride in the fact that one of the best ballplayers in baseball is a hebe. Not sure if you knew this or not, buy my people are more known for their math and accounting accumen than rather baseball. Ill take it where I can get it…
It seems to me the Yanks went with a coaching staff who wanted to put in the work. Long is a cage rat and Eiland does all the things Guidry hated to do. I imagine a lot of preparation goes into each and every game. I remember hearing complaints that Guidry didn’t do a lot of the mundane work.
Doris from Rego Park
July 9th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Whats not classy abou that calling him Jewklis? As a jew, I take pride in the fact that one of the best ballplayers in baseball is a hebe. Not sure if you knew this or not, buy my people are more known for their math and accounting accumen than rather baseball. Ill take it where I can get it…
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So now you are stereotyping people??? Quit typing. You are going from bad to worse
The Sox pen was so great to start the season – it’s not shocking that they’re regressing. It’s shocking that they’re doing it so quickly.
The guy who has still gotten the job done almost every time – Papelbon – has been throwing more pitches than ever and might wear down before long.
“Somebody is doing something right.”
sj-
well, they kind of bought sabathia and burnett.
.. and teixeira.
so if spending is right, they did something right.
Hes ma’am, I have the audio package too. Actually, its only 5 bucks when you get the Gameday premium pacjage for 20. Of course, you have to listen to Sterling and Waldman, but it beats nothing.
“Doris from Rego Park
July 9th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Jewklis strikes out to end the inning”
Ryan Braun, Ian Kinsler, Scot Feldman, Scott Schoeneweis, Jason Marquis, Gabe Kapler, et al disapprove.
(As do I, but, uh, I’m not quite as built).
Man, you people need to lighten up. Its OK for a Dominican to root for a Dominican but I guess I cant root for a Jew? And newsflash- there arent too many of us in baseball. My gosh, the PC police are out in force tonight. Was the “Hebrew Hammer” not classy? You people need to step away from the computer and smell the roses more often…
Hes = Yes….freudiant slip
“Ryan Braun, Ian Kinsler, Scot Feldman, Scott Schoeneweis, Jason Marquis, Gabe Kapler, et al disapprove.”
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Shawn Green too, wherever he is…
Used material as in the same formulation you’ve used to insult someone before (Patrick, perhaps?).
You might have forgotten but I haven’t.
How different would this season be if the Red Sox had signed Mark Teixeira?
I shudder to even think of it…
Jews are great people, at least all the ones I know, they have no problem taking a joke or giving one out. Too bad everyone couldn’t be like that.
Erica- just keep watching Fox News and listening to Rush and Beck.
“Man, you people need to lighten up. Its OK for a Dominican to root for a Dominican but I guess I cant root for a Jew? And newsflash- there arent too many of us in baseball. My gosh, the PC police are out in force tonight. Was the “Hebrew Hammer” not classy? You people need to step away from the computer and smell the roses more often…”
Why do you think I kept voting for Ian Kinsler and Ryan Braun?
I don’t use their ethnicities/religion to insult them, however.
I like Eiland, but I wished they kept Gil Patterson as pitching coach.
Randy,
Both Sabathia and Burnett started slowly and especially Burnett, went through a struggling phase.
The pitching coach gets no credit for getting them back on a roll?
The Red Sox paid over 100 million for Dice-K and 70 million for JD Drew, and those were “shrewd moves” by Theo.
You are going to sign FA players in a big market.
How about Pena, Gardner, Cervelli, Cano, Chamberlain Hughes, etc? No credit to anybody on the Yankees for that?
Its one thing to bring up mistakes and errors. Its another to completely ignore good moves as if they don’t exist or say, “they bought guys”.
You have been one of the biggest advocates of the Yankees spending their money.
Now that they are, its a bad thing?
Doris-
If I were a jewish girl who was bad in math, would I need to leave the religion by your standards. Why even bring religion into anything??
You remind me of the dentist on Seinfeld who converted to Judiasm so it wouldn’t be inappropriate when he made jokes about Jews
Doris,
The bottom line is that nobody in here really knows anything personal about anybody else.
I thought you were a woman from Queens for the longest time.
And while I’m sure many of us share your disdain for that particular player, your reference may offend people in here.
It’s not that complicated.
Doris from Rego Park
July 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Erica- just keep watching Fox News and listening to Rush and Beck.
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You know nothing about me. Please shut up now
DB- I am glad at least someone in here has a sense of humor. OMG! I said jewsish people tend to favor accounting over baseball. Burn me at the stake!!!!!
“Erica- just keep watching Fox News and listening to Rush and Beck.”
I think Dan is looking for some company on that list, erica
8-5 kc
“Why do you think I kept voting for Ian Kinsler and Ryan Braun?”
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well, they were also deserving.
SJ44,
It’s a bad thing when it doesn’t support his argument.
lets go royals
randy l, that’s not fair. Tex didn’t sign for much more and gave the Yanks the option to swoop in. Burnett had close to the same deal with Atlanta. CC was just overwhelmed. Cashman played all three of those perfect. Not everyone signs for the cash. They got to feel comfortable.
Erica-
Best.Espisode.Ever
“And this offends you as a jew?”
“No, it offends me as a comedian”
Im sorry, do the yankees play in the bible belt?
““Why do you think I kept voting for Ian Kinsler and Ryan Braun?”
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well, they were also deserving.”
SHHH!!! =P
Doris,
I doubt anybody was all that offended. Still, Pete’s trying to clean that sort of stuff up because somebody could be.
I’ve said offensive things as well but I’m trying to do better.
KC up 8-5.
no one has a perfect bullpen
just lovin the bostan/kc game!! YES
6 more outs for the Royals as they tack on another run.
8-5 Royals.
Dude on mlb tonight just said Bostons bull pen is a little overrated lol
Baseball Tonight just called the Red Sox Bullpen overrated.
LOL, I guess Gammons wasn’t there.
SJ
I agree Our numbers are getting better all the time. But is it because of, or in spite of Eiland?
I defer to You, Randy, GB and others in answering that question.
“I can’t remember – how did he look and how did he do in spring training?”
boston dave-
i remember him doing ok and then really got hammered a few games.
he just looked very weird to my eye watching him in an early spring training game which is when i started writing about the high arm slot.
wang’s trouble were there right from the beginning of spring training.
it just took the yankees a long time to see them.
that’s why they should have tested him to see if he was ready to pitch.
that was the blunder that everything else snowballed from.
Doris-
For your information, I am a Jewish girl who lives on Long Island. I am an accoutant. I also have ever, ever voted for a republican.
I got offended because religion and politicas DO NOT BELONG IN A YANKEE BLOG
So as I said earlier, please shut up now because you know NOTHING ABOUT ME
“Im sorry, do the yankees play in the bible belt?”
No they don’t. They play in New York. Do you get the picture or do I need to paint one for you?
Pete really needs to add a Find/Search feature to the blog.
I want to search for the phrase “the Red Sox don’t lose to bad teams”
I think there might be a few matches around the time of the Nationals series.
Boston Dave 2.0
July 9th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Doris,
I doubt anybody was all that offended. Still, Pete’s trying to clean that sort of stuff up because somebody could be.
I’ve said offensive things as well but I’m trying to do better.
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Thats a very fair statement and I apologize if I have offended anyone. Seriously.
God forbid baseball tonight should play a yankees win game before a boston game that isn’t even finished yet.
Why does republican and democrat matter?
We’re all Yankee fans, aren’t we?
Sports bring people together.
” i remember him doing ok and then really got hammered a few games.
he just looked very weird to my eye watching him in an early spring training game which is when i started writing about the high arm slot.”
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thanks, I think I remember your posts about that but couldn’t remember if that was ST or early in the reg season.
Erica – always OPPC
July 9th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Doris-
For your information, I am a Jewish girl who lives on Long Island. I am an accoutant. I also have ever, ever voted for a republican.
I got offended because religion and politicas DO NOT BELONG IN A YANKEE BLOG
So as I said earlier, please shut up now because you know NOTHING ABOUT ME
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LOL! Thats too funny. BTW- my wife is from Great Neck
The Boston bullpen
Once so mighty, now shaky
Stem cells, Riverdance
erica relax…go throw darts at a picture of dan…or put his pic on a watermelon and take a baseball bat to it!
“LOL! Thats too funny. BTW- my wife is from Great Neck”
Lovely. I wish you didn’t jump to conclusions like that about me
Erica- All i did was make light of the fact Youk is one of us. Relax.
I for one will miss the Metrodome – it was one of my favorite “away” parks. Sight lines were great, no bad hops and the “baggy” gave the place a unique feel – somehow different than the carrier dome Rebecca. Peter has it right – much of the ambiance has to do with the people – the are among the nicest folks at major league parks.
Haha- Thanks Ralphie
I actually don’t have any pictures of Dan. He wasn’t around for very long. I don’t even remember his last name. I just remember the pure evil
Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup ) ,,And then Wang was sent off to pitch in B games on the back field….He didn’t have a good spring….Randy I had concersn about The Wang-man before the season opener….From my perspective he never looked right, but Randy noted the arm slot…..His season is over…..
>Suzyn Waldman Interview – July 8
>2009-07-08 19:53:00-04
>Suzyn welcomes back from the disabled list, Yankees 3rd
>baseman, Jose Molina.
Sterling dabbling in a little bit of moonlighting, I see.
“You have been one of the biggest advocates of the Yankees spending their money.
Now that they are, its a bad thing?”
sj-
i don’t think it’s a bad thing.
i like it.
i don’t think it’s makes cashman smart though that he has yankee money to spend.
Juan Cruz has the look of a pitcher that will blow a 3 run lead.
Im sorry for accusing you of being something you’re not. I mean that. Now, in the immortal words of Jimmy Serrano: “Lighten up. Have a cream soda”.
“Baseball Tonight just called the Red Sox Bullpen overrated.
LOL, I guess Gammons wasn’t there.”
Who in that studio had the cajones to say that
KC just get it to Soria.
Juan Cruz doing all he can to blow this one…
Tarheelyank
July 9th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
SJ
I agree Our numbers are getting better all the time. But is it because of, or in spite of Eiland?
I defer to You, Randy, GB and others in answering that question.
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No way that I could answer that one, other than they have more quality in the pen and Rivera’s in there holding classes for kids that want to learn.
Pat M, glad to see you. I was worried you’d gone after the guy who tried to give you Monday Yankee tickets.
Doris in Rego Park got into less trouble when she was alive.
Doris
if a non-Jew used the term would it bother you?
It came across as a non-Jew using a disparaging term. It bothered me, and I am not jewish.
And I do live in the bible belt, but that’s a whole another story.
Doris from Rego Park
July 9th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Im sorry for accusing you of being something you’re not. I mean that. Now, in the immortal words of Jimmy Serrano: “Lighten up. Have a cream soda”.
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I can live with that. Consider it forgotten
“# Boston Dave 2.0 July 9th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
“I forgot the Royals have Juan Cruz”
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yeah, and he will be facing some patient hitters in the 8th if they bring him in.
I hope he isn’t a walks machine.”
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lovely
Is Wang really an exception in baseball?
He got hurt, could not regain his form and his old shoulder injury shows up. It is all Cashmans’s fault?
As Johnny Cochran would have said, it does not fit
The amazing thing is we read about it day in and day out. If it is someone other than Randy, many people will be jumping saying, ehough already……
oh no….juan cruz must be mad that we didnt sign him..this isnt good
come on royals!
“Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup ) ,,And then Wang was sent off to pitch in B games on the back field….He didn’t have a good spring….Randy I had concersn about The Wang-man before the season opener….From my perspective he never looked right, but Randy noted the arm slot…..His season is over…..”
fresh reinforcements from the west coast !!!
pat m-
i remember you and i talked about it one night as he was pitching in spring training. i’m just stirring it up now because i really hate seeing wang go down like this without some accountability.
Dodgers have 17 hits and NINE walks against the Mets so far
Apparently Pedro is negotiating with the Phillies
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
Pat M: I know you like to read my blog on occasion…I did a piece today on Swisher you might enjoy. Check it out, just click on my name. =)
Haha. The Mets are losing 11-2
Hmmmmm. I can smell it already. First place.
Just get the force! Terrible KC.
Oh, KC – dont you dare…
Melancon likely on his way to West coast.
Figured it would have been announced by now – they’ve been stretching him out lately for a reason.
And this time, he’s up to stay.
how could Buster just say that?!!! ughhh
Yeh I think Melancon is on his way.
I thought the runner is out if the ball beats him to the bag? What gives?
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 9th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
“Baseball Tonight just called the Red Sox Bullpen overrated.
LOL, I guess Gammons wasn’t there.”
Who in that studio had the cajones to say that
KC just get it to Soria.
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Now with the emergence of Phil Hughes in the bullpen. If the yankees can get Brian Bruney back to form like he was earlier in the season before he went on the DL. The yankees will have the better bullpen.
at what point would Chad Jennings know which pitcher is on his way to Anaheim?
You’d think this would be known by now.
Unless the player is informed after tonight’s game, and makes the trip tomorrow am.
“how could Buster just say that?!!! ughhh”
What did he say?
>how could Buster just say that?!!! ughhh
to be fair, the yankees didn’t help their argument by losing 8 straight.
*head-to-head
graf – what did buster say?
“Now with the emergence of Phil Hughes in the bullpen. If the yankees can get Brian Bruney back to form like he was earlier in the season before he went on the DL. The yankees will have the better bullpen.”
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I know some have given up on Marte, but if they get him back healthy as well, it will be a huge plus (IMO)
The Metrodome was crap as a baseball stadium, and the rally monkey doesn’t even count as a mascot. It’s just lame.
“Haha. The Mets are losing 11-2″
as much as i love to laugh at the mets and bug my friends who are mets fans its actually getting kinda sad! lol
Buster Olney was asked on Baseball tonight if the Yankees were better then the Red Sox and he said no. LOL ! Typical yankee hater.
The red sox are good but they aren’t that good. The yankees will eventually beat them.
I suspect Mr. Doris would not have used such a term if Derek Jeter was holding his baby in a Starbucks.
Going to Soria here – future NY Yankee closer.
Who weighs more? Edwar or Juan Cruz?
“I know some have given up on Marte, but if they get him back healthy as well, it will be a huge plus (IMO)”
If he returns as the bad ass he was in PIT we’re in the ALCS.
GB, what pitcher were you talking about going for Charleston?
Also, what a surprise that Buster would answer NO right away to the ? of whether the Yanks are better now than the Sox…..heaven forbid he answer yes. And have the Royals blown this?
In comes Soria.
thanks for answering him JZ
The question was “right now”……..whether the Yanks are better “right now”. I guess it really doesn’t matter – what matters is where the teams are at the end of the season.
“Going to Soria here – future NY Yankee closer.”
Should have been. Long story.
“Buster Olney was asked on Baseball tonight if the Yankees were better then the Red Sox and he said no. LOL ! ”
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honestly, I can’t argue with anybody who feels that way.
The Sox, after all, are 8-0 against the Yanks.
Of course, I believe the Yanks are the better team and will win the division, but it’s not hard to pick the Sox until the Yanks take a lead in the division or win some head to head games.
Nicky-
Im going to do some research and come up with some famous jewish CAL athletes
SJ44,
I’ve seen you say the following several times,
“He got completely hosed by his agent in his arbitration hearing.”
Yet I’m not sure what you mean by it. I remember you saying that the person who argued Wang’s arbitration case had just been assigned the case that day and did a poor job of arguing. However, Wang didn’t really lose out on much money by losing the arbitration case. And who’s to say if he had a better lawyer/agent he would have won the case?
I’m curious about this because none of it has been spoken about in public and it sounds like you have an insight on the situation.
randy,
I acknowledge that the Yankees did a poor job on Wang’s rehab. He should have been rehabbing his legs in spring training and he should have started the season on the DL. They also took him off the DL much too quickly.
However, I am still not convinced that this has anything to do with his shoulder injury. I just don’t see the connection and we don’t have a medical expert or a pitching expert close to the situation to show us either way.
Considering Wang has had a history of shoulder problems I am inclined to believe this was a naturally occurring injury. Occam’s razor after all…
“In comes Soria.”
Game Over.
Like the Nick Green of old.
I think the Sox are better as of now.
But we can get better.
Sox down in 8th, 8-6.
This just in: Joakim Soria is REALLY GOOD.
“Haha. The Mets are losing 11-2″
Doreen,
Loyalty test: Seriously, how does this make you feel?
Listening to Eric Young is…interesting
I love when the Mets lose. I don’t care how bad the team is.
Boston Dave 2.0
July 9th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
“Now with the emergence of Phil Hughes in the bullpen. If the yankees can get Brian Bruney back to form like he was earlier in the season before he went on the DL. The yankees will have the better bullpen.”
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I know some have given up on Marte, but if they get him back healthy as well, it will be a huge plus (IMO)
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I agree a second lefty in the pen is something the yankees are missing then you could get rid of Tomko.
That was a dirty breaking ball he threw to Green. It should be tested for PEDS.
RS on 5th pitcher! RS now need 4 runs in the 9th.
Tied for 1st place!! What the Yankees did today was huge,winning that way.
Soria has a Mo-like AB and strikes out Green on 3 pitches.
Wow, Soria.. 3 pitches, Green gone.
Now that’s the Nick Green we remember.
Oski is not Jewish.
Best to let this drop.
of course when discussing the futures game BBTN says nothing about montero…
Time now for laughter is the best medicine with Jerry Manuel
dang, this bard kid throws hard.
We almost had Soria in that Rule 5
Almost
Until the Yankees beat the Sox, they can’t win the argument that they are better.
Betsy, GB was referring to Manuel Banuelos, who, coincidentally enough, came to the Yankees in the same package as Alfredo Aceves
Rebecca-I agree, we need to either LEAD (not be tied) for first or beat em’ a few times.
Winning a game or few won’t do it.
Finish ahead of them and/or go farther in the postseason, that’s how to settle the argument.
The Yankees need to beat the Red Sox some games and be in first place before they’re considered better during the season.
To the bottom of the 9th in Boston, 8-6 Royals, Soria pitching.
Betsy
July 9th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
GB, what pitcher were you talking about going for Charleston?
Also, what a surprise that Buster would answer NO right away to the ? of whether the Yanks are better now than the Sox…..heaven forbid he answer yes. And have the Royals blown this?
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An outstanding little left hander from Mexico, 18 year old Manny Banuelos.
How good? This is his first full year and he’s going to the Futures Game as the youngest player there.
“Finish ahead of them and/or go farther in the postseason, that’s how to settle the argument.”
Most definitely. It’s how you end up after the season is what people remember and care about.
This game is not over.
I’ve learned long ago to stop assuming things when the Sox are concerned.
come on soria!! 3 outs…only 3 outs!
“To the bottom of the 9th in Boston, 8-6 Royals, Soria pitching.”
Game Over
Rebecca, thanks! That’s one heck of a job of scouting by CAsh and co……….but does anyone really think Jorge Vasquez can hit in the big leagues? People are pretty high on him, but isn’t it more likely that he’s a Shelley Duncan (can hit a FB for a HR occasionally, but can’t hit the breaking stuff and is mostly a AAAA player)? I’m just asking because for some reason I’m skeptical of him……
Nick did I ever tell you about the time I saw Oski and the Stanford Tree in a lip lock outside the Starbucks on Oxford St in Berkeley?
I took a picture, but unfortunately the lens cap was on.
Brandon, don’t say that. I hate the Sox, but I respect them immensely – don’t ever count them out.
Gameday has Soria’s location really good today.
“Cervelli reportedly vowed to return (he’ll be up anyway when rosters expand in September) and said he’s bringing Ramiro Pena with him”
http://blog.silive.com/yankees.....ace_g.html
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I love the confidence in these kids.
Drew grounds to Soria. One out.
1 down.
The Red Sux are having the week that most people thought the Yankees would have. So glad they lost tonight.
Why is Drew batting first?
Finish them off Soria
(can we kidnap him?)
GB, thanks! I appreciate your updates even if I don’t always say anything….maybe someday, these babes will be in NY (and we’ll be rooting for while simultaneously bashing them, lol).
“Cervelli reportedly vowed to return (he’ll be up anyway when rosters expand in September) and said he’s bringing Ramiro Pena with him”
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I love that drive
Nice comeback to get the Hobbit.
Pedroia flies out. Down to Youkilis.
“Why is Drew batting first?”
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better OBP than Ellsbury (at least that was the idea when the switch was made)
Game over! Tie up in first!
FIRST PLACE
NY YANKEES
Back in first!
Royals win!!!!!!
game.
tied for 1st.
This game is in the bag. If KC and the As can beat the Sux, the YANKEES MUST get over their losing streak.
tied for first!
Boston loses.
I love the smell of first place in the morning.
Smells like………..A burnt bowl of CHOWDAAAAHH!!
Youk looks like such white trash.
Rebecca I always check in on our columns…I strongly urge those here to do the same, excellent pieces….Nick In SF, I’m going to Sunday’s game and who knows what in the hell I was refering too…..Randy I, I clearly recall an evening when we had a group of us going through film and breaking down the changes in Wang from this season to last year prior to the injury…..Might have been one of the best blog nights ever….Sure enough he was DL’d within a few days….Pete even mentioned the change in mechanics to Eiland ( ? ) and then Kepner did a piece about the very same topic a few days later……I noticed the lower leg lift that night, however The Wang-Man had many issues…..
First place.
Nice.
These kids made a big impression on the vets. Per Kim’s blog, AJ went out of his way to thank and encourage Frankie……….now how good must that have made him feel? I love the confidence in Pena and Frankie – they aren’t wondering if they’ll be back, they KNOW they will.
GAME OVER !!!
that would be “tied”
Erica-Did you read this? Some more Jon & Kate rumors:
http://tiny.cc/93ubE
first baby! now if we can win 2 out of 3 in anaheim it would be great!
Hah, finally ! Even if it’s just for one night, it was a hard climb back from 4 games back, when it looked like the division could be blown apart. Thanks, Royals!
This is huge for the Yankees. I def did not envision the Sox struggling like this against these teams on their 10 game homestand before the All Star Break.
Thanks Soria!
Buster Olney is getting on my nerves.
HELLO FIRST PLACE I LOVE YOU WELL
Bronx Jeers -
I don’t think it tests my loyalty to say that the Mets losing 11-2 does not make me smile. they’re having such a rough time of it over there, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, except maybe the Red Sox.
I already admitted to have a soft spot for them. (Like a first boyfriend, ya know?)
“Hah, finally ! Even if it’s just for one night, it was a hard climb back from 4 games back, when it looked like the division could be blown apart.”
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they were 5 games back a couple weeks ago.
amazing to make up 5 games in such a short time against a quality team like the Sox.
BREAKING according to Chad Jennings tweet Meloncon called up
its really amazing that we are tied for 1st with a team we are 0-8 against.
but they are the best team EVAHH!!!!!!11!
The Red Sux have a horrible team and their pitching staff is overrated. They may have started well, but it’s going to catch up to them. I just hope they, along with their crappy little stadium, implode in the second half.
Here is linik to Melancon news
http://community.thetimes-trib.....-york.aspx
‘Considering Wang has had a history of shoulder problems I am inclined to believe this was a naturally occurring injury. Occam’s razor after all…”
patrick-
occam’s razor could be used in another way.
pitch with a bad foot and lower half and have a predisposition to shoulder injuries and what would you expect?
the simplest explanation is pitching with a bad foot and lower half is going to hurt an already weak shoulder.
As much as I hate the Sox, Terry Francona is a class act.
WB Melancon!
Thank you KC.. Soria has nasty stuff and the Bosox BP implodes again.. We may give Girardi alot of crap, but he has this team in first place and there is room for improvement still. Still comes down to the Angels series and if Vlad and Hunter don’t play that will help!
http://community.thetimes-trib.....-york.aspx
Mark gets the call.
‘The Red Sux have a horrible team and their pitching staff is overrated. They may have started well, but it’s going to catch up to them. I just hope they, along with their crappy little stadium, implode in the second half.’
Ha, good one.
MElancon back
http://community.thetimes-trib.....-york.aspx
Johnny D.-Sorry, but I disagree.
It’s gonna be hard fought between us and the Sox all year.
Hopefully Mark won’t be thrown the wolves again. Last time Joe really didn’t use him properly, his back was to the wall and he threw the kid to the wolves.
If Meloncon is coming up, who will be optioned?
It has to be Robertson.
Dont get too hyped over Melancon.
Good chance he goes back down when they call Aceves back up.
In fact, hopefully they don’t need Mark to pitch unless the Yanks have a big lead.
DT: there are some things you just shouldn’t joke about. That was one of them.
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Welcome back Melancon. Hopefully better results this time
They should send down Robertson
cant wait to see mark m again….im really looking forward to it
Boston Dave-I like him more than Tomko and Robertson.
Thank you KC. Ahh…first place, I’ve missed you.
“They should send down Robertson”
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I was under the impression that Aceves was going down.
The whole point in calling Melancon up is to have extra pitching since Aceves won’t be available until after the break.
The Metrodome doesn’t have the most pleasant looking appearance when you see it on TV, but there is some great history that has happened there.
I’ll never forget chills running down my spine when I was a seven year old kid watching Kirby Puckett work his magic in Game 6 of the ’91 World Series. That place did explode.
The Metrodome was also the site of Tony Dorsett’s famous 99-yard TD run on Monday Night Football, the one where Don Meredith yelled “99 yards!”
“It’s gonna be hard fought between us and the Sox all year.”
I am not sure about it.
We are 0-8 agaisnt them so far and we are tied.
Even if we split the reamaining games with the sox, we should be distancing from them shortly. If you take away those eight wins against us, they are just playing OK against the rest of the league and I do not expect it to change much.
Melancon is not going back to AAA. He’s here for good.
BBFan-Yes, but they play us, and when they play us they do well.
They pitch too well not to keep fighting w/us.
I don’t have high expectations for Melancon – he just wasn’t pitching that well in AAA. We’ll see how he does this time……..
Boston Dave, I thought at the time honestly that the Yankees were done for the division. Now, I’m pessimistic anyway and, of course, that was the Yanks’ lowest point. I would love to be tied or up a game by the break, but the fact is, we’re going to be in great position regardless.
Price wasn’t doing well before he got called up either.
I bet he does well.
“I was under the impression that Aceves was going down.”
I guess that is a possibility, but they can not bring him back for 14 (or 10?) days.
I don’t think Melancon is going back down.
Time to go read some Sox postings about tonights game. Should be some good ones on there tonight and tomorrow.
Fun listening to them freak out.
“I already admitted to have a soft spot for them. (Like a first boyfriend, ya know?)”
Actually I never had a first boyfriend but I get what you’re saying.
I have pity as well. Not as much since Willie got fired but I’m not a total cretin.
“the simplest explanation is pitching with a bad foot and lower half is going to hurt an already weak shoulder.”
The foot bone is connected to the… shoulder bone?
I don’t see the correlation here.
I understand that a change in mechanics can make a pitcher overcompensate and cause injury. However, I simply don’t see any solid evidence that the shoulder injury was caused because of a weak ankle/foot.
Wang had been throwing 92-94 consistently over his last several starts prior to the injury. His arm, shoulder, lower half, whatever was sound. Something just went wrong in that inning and caused the injury.
Betsy,
that’s the point. 1st place or not, the Yanks have renewed optimism that they are a legit contender this season.
Any problems the Yanks may have had in the start of the season seem like things of the past.
And there is room for improvement – Wang, Joba, hitting with RISP, etc.
Please Lord Jesus,let Robertson be the one going back down.
PLEASE!!
If you told me in March that entering play July 10, the Yankees would be 0-8 against Boston, but tied for first place with them, I would have laughed at you. It has been a weird and fun season to say the least.
“I don’t have high expectations for Melancon – he just wasn’t pitching that well in AAA. We’ll see how he does this time……..”
Melancon’s last 10 games at Scranton
19.0 ip 10 hits 2 walks 16 k’s= 2.37era
““I was under the impression that Aceves was going down.”
I guess that is a possibility, but they can not bring him back for 14 (or 10?) days.”
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I think it’s 10 days. (not 10 games though)
so with the break, it’s not too bad.
“I don’t have high expectations for Melancon – he just wasn’t pitching that well in AAA. We’ll see how he does this time……..”
I agree.
Robertson was also lights out in the minors, but has not found sure success in the ML. Same with Meloncon.
These kids need experience, and hopefully second time better luck to Meloncon.
19.0 ip 10 hits 2 walks 16 k’s= 2.37era
bad pitching
pat m-
that was a good night on the blog with a lot of ideas flying. cb was on his game that night too if i remember right. you did notice the leg kick and then it turned out that was something they were later working on.
i brought up wang tonight not because things are going bad but because things are going well. sometimes things are shoved aside that shouldn’t be shoved aside just because everything seems fine.
anyone who’s lived long enough knows it’s the good times that bring you down as much as the bad times. while the yankees are rolling they need to remember they make a lot of mistakes and not get too full of themselves for being back in first place.
this team has a long way to go before they are a really excellent organization and team.
Betsy
July 9th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
GB, thanks! I appreciate your updates even if I don’t always say anything….maybe someday, these babes will be in NY (and we’ll be rooting for while simultaneously bashing them, lol).
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You’re very welcome, Betsy. Happy to do it. It really scares me if Melky Mesa makes it to NY, he’s going to wonder why he gets booed 3 out of four at bats. He’ll hit one huge bomb a night and strike out the other three at bats. Seriously, he’s got a huge bat and speed, but, OHHH, those strikeouts.
Charleston has some really good players, including pitchers, but, not like last year.
“19.0 ip 10 hits 2 walks 16 k’s= 2.37era
bad pitching”
atrocious
I have high hopes for Melancon. This time he should know the drill better.
April
Average high= 57 degrees F; Average low= 36 degrees F; Average precipitation= 2.31 inches. Okay, don’t bring out the shorts yet, but you can lose the long underwear. April can be kind of gray and damp, but by the end of the month, signs of spring are everywhere. There’s plenty of annoying freezing rain.
http://minnesota-travel.suite1.....MB6&D
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It is going to be very interesting to see how many games get call in April due to freezing rain.
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LOL, Jennifer. Was that stuff even written by a Minnesotan? I seriously have my doubts.
Read my lips.
Its. Not. That. Bad. (in January, well thats another story). Yeah there might the occasional really cold days, but you could say that about any norther city, like Cleveland, Boston or Chicago. Granted I’ve only lived here a few years, but still, I don’t recall that much freezing rain.
Yes, winters are brutal. But spring/summer in the northeast this year has been way more rainy and brutal than Minnesota’s has so far. There hasn’t always been a Metrodome. They did used to play outside before that and managed okay for the most part, I think.
I think the new ballpark will be nice. I’m looking forward to sitting out in the sun to see ballgames.
I am born and raised in Minnesota. From “the big city” of Minneapolis. The first time I went to New York (Yankees-Red Sox, July 1, 2004 epic game)I could not believe the difference. New York makes Minneapolis look like a farm town. I’m very proud to live here, and even more proud to be a Yankees fan, but New York is like a whole different world. I loved it when I was there, but there’s a HUGE difference. The term “New York Minute” made a lot more sense to me after I left. My first day there, I was standing on the subway platform trying to figure out which train to take to the Stadium. I’d ask people “Can you help me figure…” and they’d just bristle on past. I don’t begrudge, I understand that people have places to be, but then this kind old lady came up to me and said “Son, move the F off the platform until you figure it out.” It was the proverbial “Todo, we’re not in Kansas anymore” moment. It took me about two days to not give the “head nod” to everybody I passed walking on the street to acknowledge them. But I found that when I was at the bar or at the Stadium, when people are relaxing, New Yorkers are very nice people. They’d ask me to say “Minnesooota” (we do have elongated O’s…by the way, the girls seemed to love it) and I’d ask them to say “Brokelyn”. Good people are just good people. Red Sox fans? Not good people.
And I’ve been accosted all day about my Yankee fandom, so throw “Minnesota Nice” out the window!!!!
“Part me of feels bad about sweeping the Twins. They are such a classy team/organization.
I wish we could save those sweeps for unlikeable teams like Boston, Angels, Baltimore,”
well said.
I always feel the exact same way. And have respected the Twins since Tom Kelly
Yep, BD – though with caveats. I have reservations on Wang. I’m not sure he’ll be close to being the old Wang if/when he returns (and so, I have issues with Aceves being the long-term replacement. I still prefer him in the pen). Joba won’t improve until he quits being so stubborn. Still, I can’t believe the strides the pen has made – that I’m shocked by. That’s been the biggest positive development – along with Phil growing up before our eyes. Also, CC has been a horse (and he should get better) and AJ has been terrific – our FA signings have lived up to their billing (I guess in AJ’s case, he may be exceeding expectations)………and that’s nice change, isn’ it?
vinny-b (RIP Air McNair)
If you listened to their announcers, you would enjoy the sweep.
Ralphie, that’s odd because everytime GB gave an updated, it seemed like MM was getting knocked around. I certainly want him to do well – I just think the hype for the guy here was unfair because he’s still young and a rookie. He doesn’t have to be lights out, though – just be competitive and keep the team in the game.
Nate-Good story.
“but then this kind old lady came up to me and said “Son, move the F off the platform until you figure it out.” It was the proverbial “Todo, we’re not in Kansas anymore” moment. It took me about two days to not give the “head nod” to everybody I passed walking on the street to acknowledge them”
Nate:
I love the story. Hilarious
LOL you learn quick to figure out things on your own in NY.
GB, did most of the good players graduate to another level (is it Tampa above Charleston)? I’m going to Savannah and Charleston with the folks in October – too late to see a ballgame, unfortunately. I may need some vacation advice for Savannah when the time comes. I’ve been to Charleston twice and feel like I’m an old hand, lol.
Melky Mesa is a great baseball name, like Mickey Mantle. Hope he can control his K’s so he doesn’t become like a Rob Deer type………
SA-
Thank you for sharling. That article does not raise my opinion of Jon much…
“but then this kind old lady came up to me and said “Son, move the F off the platform until you figure it out.” It was the proverbial “Todo, we’re not in Kansas anymore” moment”
Nate: Still laughing, bro…
Nick, I have drunk the kool aid. I know have REALLY high hopes for Melancon. In fact, his theme song should be that song that Sinatra sang, High Hopes.
Nate-
If it makes you feel any better, I was born & raised in Queens and I still can’t navigate the subways
Carl
July 9th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
I don’t think Melancon is going back down.
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Heavens no, he’s not coming up as a stop-gap.
Last 15 IP, 7H, 3 ER, 2BB, 11K.
Vinny
Snap out of it!!
Who is going down for Melancon??
Robertson or Tomko, I would guess. Who has a different opinion?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07.....f=baseball
So, for those worrying that Phil is getting too comfy in his new role:
Hughes, 23, has not been right for much of the last two seasons. He lost several months to injuries, and in 28 career starts he has an 8-9 record with a 5.22 E.R.A. Relieving is new to Hughes — he did it once in high school, twice in the 2007 playoffs — and he does not want it as a permanent role.
“I think it’s too soon to look at that,” Hughes said. “I had a couple of injury years and I didn’t throw the ball the way I can. I really thought I was getting into a groove as a starter this year. I think the numbers might be a little misleading. I still see myself as a starter.”
**love this quote:
“It’s nice to know that I have some value, wherever it is,” Hughes said. “I’ve always felt that when I’m right, I can do a lot of things to get outs.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07.....f=baseball
So, for those worrying that Phil is getting too comfy in his new role:
Hughes, 23, has not been right for much of the last two seasons. He lost several months to injuries, and in 28 career starts he has an 8-9 record with a 5.22 E.R.A. Relieving is new to Hughes — he did it once in high school, twice in the 2007 playoffs — and he does not want it as a permanent role.
“I think it’s too soon to look at that,” Hughes said. “I had a couple of injury years and I didn’t throw the ball the way I can. I really thought I was getting into a groove as a starter this year. I think the numbers might be a little misleading. I still see myself as a starter.”
**love this quote:
“It’s nice to know that I have some value, wherever it is,” Hughes said. “I’ve always felt that when I’m right, I can do a lot of things to get outs.”
Randy I, Yeah CB was on it that night, and he came around from his original viewpoint…..Your point about staying level is a valid issue, although I think it’s more of an issue here than in the Clubhouse…The National & Marlins series is really not that far removed….Ride the wave and then releax and reground for the back nine….They need a RH stick, and a starter I still believe…..Hell, considereing all the adversity and injuries, can’t complain…..I need them to win 100 games to win on my pre-season investment..( 100. to win 190. )
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07.....f=baseball
So, for those afraid Phil is getting too comfortable in his new role:
Hughes, 23, has not been right for much of the last two seasons. He lost several months to injuries, and in 28 career starts he has an 8-9 record with a 5.22 E.R.A. Relieving is new to Hughes — he did it once in high school, twice in the 2007 playoffs — and he does not want it as a permanent role.
“I think it’s too soon to look at that,” Hughes said. “I had a couple of injury years and I didn’t throw the ball the way I can. I really thought I was getting into a groove as a starter this year. I think the numbers might be a little misleading. I still see myself as a starter.”
I think Aceves goes down and gets work in.
When he comes back I say Tomko gets DFA.
I like Robertson. Hope he stays.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07.....f=baseball
Hughes, 23, has not been right for much of the last two seasons. He lost several months to injuries, and in 28 career starts he has an 8-9 record with a 5.22 E.R.A. Relieving is new to Hughes — he did it once in high school, twice in the 2007 playoffs — and he does not want it as a permanent role.
“I think it’s too soon to look at that,” Hughes said. “I had a couple of injury years and I didn’t throw the ball the way I can. I really thought I was getting into a groove as a starter this year. I think the numbers might be a little misleading. I still see myself as a starter.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07.....f=baseball
So, for those afraid Phil is getting too comfortable in his new role:
Hughes, 23, has not been right for much of the last two seasons. He lost several months to injuries, and in 28 career starts he has an 8-9 record with a 5.22 E.R.A. Relieving is new to Hughes — he did it once in high school, twice in the 2007 playoffs — and he does not want it as a permanent role.
“I think it’s too soon to look at that,” Hughes said. “I had a couple of injury years and I didn’t throw the ball the way I can. I really thought I was getting into a groove as a starter this year. I think the numbers might be a little misleading. I still see myself as a starter.”
So, for those afraid Phil is getting too comfortable in his new role:
Hughes, 23, has not been right for much of the last two seasons. He lost several months to injuries, and in 28 career starts he has an 8-9 record with a 5.22 E.R.A. Relieving is new to Hughes — he did it once in high school, twice in the 2007 playoffs — and he does not want it as a permanent role.
“I think it’s too soon to look at that,” Hughes said. “I had a couple of injury years and I didn’t throw the ball the way I can. I really thought I was getting into a groove as a starter this year. I think the numbers might be a little misleading. I still see myself as a starter.”
id love to see joe go easy with melancon the next 3 games and try to get him in a couple low leverage situations so he can establish himself and gain a little big league confidence…..depending on how long joba goes tomorrow the bullpen may be thin though..
So, for those afraid Phil is getting too comfortable in his new role:
Relieving is new to Hughes — he did it once in high school, twice in the 2007 playoffs — and he does not want it as a permanent role.
“I think it’s too soon to look at that,” Hughes said. “I had a couple of injury years and I didn’t throw the ball the way I can. I really thought I was getting into a groove as a starter this year. I think the numbers might be a little misleading. I still see myself as a starter.”
Everyone knows Phil is and will be a starter going forward.
“I think Aceves goes down and gets work in. ”
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Like I said, I think that’s the point in calling Melancon up.
Aceves goes down and comes back on July 20th when he’s eligible.
He wouldn’t be ready to pitch until the 17th even if he stayed up.
They call Aceves back up, Melancon goes down or Tomko is let go.
Nate,
Thanks for sharing that.
I also met some nice fans in the Metrodome.
Then again, take a New Yorker out of New York, and everybody seems nice.
You could drop us in a terrorist training camp and we’d be like ” Al Qaeda, good people! ”
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Here’s a decent Post article about Torre on visiting Yankee Stadium.
It seems that he was contacted by the Yankees about getting some artifacts from the old Stadium.
http://tinyurl.com/luc5hc
The Twins and their clown GM got way too cute with the Santana talks. I’m glad we swept them.
“id love to see joe go easy with melancon the next 3 games and try to get him in a couple low leverage situations so he can establish himself and gain a little big league confidence…”
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a couple?
there may not be any of those during 3 games with the Angels.
Nate cool story.
Interesting choice on who goes down.
Is it Tomko, the worst pitcher on the staff?
Albaladejo, who still has options and is just slightly better than Tomko?
Robertson who is good but hasn’t been so good recently?
Or Aceves who isn’t needed until after the break and could use some work to increase his pitch count?
Me? I’d go with Tomko since he really is a terrible pitcher.
“Albaladejo, who still has options and is just slightly better than Tomko?”
slightly?…i think your overrating tomko lol
We are in first place
(Sorry, I know this is old news already. I just thought it deserves frequent repeating)
Tomko is staying.
I’d say Robertson or Aceves.
The 5th starter isn’t needed until the 21st, so that makes sense. Let Ace throw a few simulated games or bullpen sessions during his 10 days down there. That way he can go 90 pitches on the 21st.
Betsy
July 9th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
GB, did most of the good players graduate to another level (is it Tampa above Charleston)? I’m going to Savannah and Charleston with the folks in October – too late to see a ballgame, unfortunately. I may need some vacation advice for Savannah when the time comes. I’ve been to Charleston twice and feel like I’m an old hand, lol.
Melky Mesa is a great baseball name, like Mickey Mantle. Hope he can control his K’s so he doesn’t become like a Rob Deer type………
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Most of the kids from last year are in Tampa, but a few have jumped to AA and AAA already. Carmen Angelini was demoted to staten Island and is struggling.
You’ll love Savannah. It’s as historic as Charleston. During The War Of Northern Aggression, Savannah was saved from being burned by Sherman because of it’s beauty and was presented intact to Lincoln. They burned Charleston. You’ll love the fountains and squares, the beach at Tybee Island. Bring your appetite. Juliet Gordon Lowe’s home is now a museum (founder of Girl scouts). Johnny Mercer’s home and music his here, the home is on “Moon River”. All in all, you’ll love it. A word of warning….stay away from the candy stores on River Street. ou can’t afford a completely new wardrobe.
Mesa has big time power, outstanding speed a good glove and plays well in all three outfield spots. He’s got a great arm, too, but like Vladamir Guerrero, likes it a little too much and gets careless. His walks are ok, but, those strikeouts come in bunches. On offense, think of Alfonso Soriano. He won’t steal 40 bases, but 20-25 are a sure bet.
Was Berroa better than Ransome?
I think he was.
Does anyone know how long Wang is actually expected out for?
Why aren’t they talking about converting Hughes back to a starter then since he was the logical choice to be a fill-in starter until about 2-3 weekas ago???
Nate Erica
I love giving directions to tourists on the subway it kind of a hobby. If I see a map or a clueless expressions I’m all over it. usually they are going to the Met Art or Met Nat Hist or 5th ave. But sometimes I get to give directions to yankee Stad.
One piece of advice to tourists – don’t clog the basepaths you’ll be ok
“Why aren’t they talking about converting Hughes back to a starter then since he was the logical choice to be a fill-in starter until about 2-3 weekas ago???”
Because of that old adage that says that the definition of insanity is repeating the same action over and over and expecting a different result.
Pat M: I assume 99.5 is the number and 100 gets it done?
Uncle E-
There is nothing more annoying than a tourist who dead stops in the middle of the sidewalk to take a picture of a particularly fancy building/statue/person/awning/pigeon/fillintheblank
Lineceum has a no-no through 5 2/3
Nick in SF
July 9th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
The Twins and their clown GM got way too cute with the Santana talks. I’m glad we swept them.
Nad Melky (last series) and Hughes had major roles – how do ya like dem apples?
Erica or the people who don’t know the escalator rule
“Cervelli reportedly vowed to return (he’ll be up anyway when rosters expand in September) and said he’s bringing Ramiro Pena with him”
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I wish they didn’t have to go down in the first place.
Boston Dave 2.0
July 9th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Lineceum has a no-no through 5 2/3
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Is that name pronounced Lynn-SEE-um?
watching Lincecum throw when he’s locked in like this is something to see…
filthy stuff
What is the problem with Robertson? He has the numbers after Mo and Aceves? Tomko and Alba would have to go before him. He’s seriously been very good.
I thought Doris’s comments were funny regardless of my race/creed. Some people either get the NY Jew Stereotype humor, and some people do not. Should it be on a yankee blog? who knows? some people are uptight and get very upset over words typed by strangers. Others can just ignore it and move on.
I believe it’s Lints-uh-come
And the beating of the dead horse continues….
Boston Dave 2.0
July 9th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
I believe it’s Lints-uh-come
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I cannot agree or disagree. I have no idea!
Others???
So Lincecum is good at this pitching thing.
Joba is more likely to be a bullpen man than Hughes is
Hughes is 1000% a starter. If our bullpen didn’t greatly disappoint this year, he wouldn’t even be in the pen now he’d be starting.
He is there out of need
Why send down Robertson? Whats wrong with him?
Lincecum and hitters go
“So Lincecum is good at this pitching thing.”
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in 9 outs, he might be really, really good
Lincecum may the best pitcher in baseball.
Absolutely absurd stuff, amazing control and perfect mechanics.
He’s my favorite pitcher to watch.
My thought on Robertson as a possibility would be that he doesn’t seem to get used much
GB, Besides the great bar that has all you can eat oysters for 25.00, there’s many candy / sweet shops along River but there’s one place that is famous for it’s fudge…Man it’s unreal…I always stay at the Hampton Inn right off River ( The FBI Offices is behind the hotel ) and I just stroll along the River front…It’s a must for all to expierence if your in Savannah……Nick in SF, how did you know…..I’ve been on a roll playing the Bombers, and today I loaded up abit as they were a dog…..Should be interesting lines this weekend in Disneyland….
How long until Lincecum is a Yankee?
raymagnetic
July 9th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
How long until Lincecum is a Yankee?
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How long until his FA?
although aside from Adrian Gonzalez I’m not sure if a no-hitter against San Diego’s offense should count
Erica I think the thinking with phil is we changed him once – that is it. People say that changing Joba last year hurt him.
Wan g thinks he’ll back in 2 weeks. FWIW
I have an idea!!! Let’s propose trades to SF for Linceceum!!!!!!!!!!!
“How long until his FA?”
I have no idea. I don’t think he’ll ever make it to free agency though. He’s too good not to be given a contract extension.
“Lincecum may the best pitcher in baseball.”
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I think you’re probably right.
And he’s probably only going to get better.
He just turned 25.
Unfortunately the Giants can afford to keep Lincecum, even when he is a free agent. That guy is special
“I have an idea!!! Let’s propose trades to SF for Linceceum!!!!!!!!!!!”
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before last year there were quite a few “let’s trade Matsui for Lincecum” proposals on here.
Either Lincecum or Matt Cain.
they were pretty funny.
GB, I am a Civil War buff, so yep, I knew that Savannah was spared. I love the South (no, I don’t count Florida, lol) – the people in Charleston (and I assume, Savannah) are so friendly. I guess it has to do with the pace and way of life there – but it’s really wonderful. I get a kick out of joking about being a Yankee, lol. I went to see the Hunley submarine a few years ago and they still had guards in Confederate uniforms standing at attention (this was only until the remains of the crew, found in the sub, were finally interred. One of them had a horn playing Dixie (I LOVE that song) and they all kissed my hand……sigh.
Thanks for the tips! After I get back from Philly (going for a few days), I can concentrate on that trip and do my usual research, esp. on Savannah. I’ll bring my appetite, but I can barely fit into my clothes now – so I’ll just bring a bunch of mumus, lol. Telling me to stay away from candy stores (or any food) is like handing me the key to the candy store. Also…… I LOVE southern food (grits, yum!)…..
Sounds like Mesa is a pretty decent little prospect – sweet.
I followed the blog for about 2 years before I started posting. I was very scared of the comments section for a long time. Therefore, I missed the “lets trade for Lincecum” era
why can’t joba be dominating immediately like lincecum?
he has the stuff to do so
he is the best pitcher in baseball.
People keep asking me to trade them Lincecum in my fantasy leagues (he’s on all three of my teams)
My answer: “NO.”
he makes halladay,burnett,santanna,sabathia look average.
“He just turned 25.”
yet he looks like he is 15
wojohowitz
okay, so was kind of resigned to Boston winning yet again, up 5-3. Then a funny thing happened…
I think we should all hold off predicting whether Joba or Phil will be the better starter…
Hallelujah! There is a baseball god. (no offense to Edwar)…
Hey, guy who was asking to be woken up when Hughes hits a 100, 97 in the 7th inning. You want us to wake you up when Joba does that? Phil can still be a successful pitcher, without even hitting 97…
Recalibrating…anything less than 5-1 will be a disappointement…
Pat M, do you live down there as well?
Food is my favorite subject, so I will be sure to visit those sweet shops. I’m good with a camera, so I look forward to photographing the really gorgeous homes and squares……
Alby cannot go down as far as far as I am aware as he has not been up for 10 days
Tim doesn’t pitch in the AL East.
Tim Lincecum won’t be a free agent until the 2014 season.
Wait a second…
The Sox lost the game they were winning 4-0??? How could that have happened??? They were coasting to another easy victory. ATROCIOUS!
Hilarious swing by Lincecum haha
gayle,
you have that backwards, he can go down, just can’t come back up for 10 days.
Okay now I’ve heard it all. Grits – yum. I’m baffled how one acquires the taste. I’m an admirer of the Whaffle House short order cooks but I draw the line at grits, correction – two lines. There is a natural order you know.
Pat M.
July 9th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
GB, Besides the great bar that has all you can eat oysters for 25.00, there’s many candy / sweet shops along River but there’s one place that is famous for it’s fudge…Man it’s unreal…I always stay at the Hampton Inn right off River ( The FBI Offices is behind the hotel ) and I just stroll along the River front…It’s a must for all to expierence if your in Savannah……
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Savannah Sweets used to have a store on River Street, but is now located in the malls. The other one on River Street is shockingly enough called “River Street Sweets”. The Forest Gump bus bench is just one block up the hill on Bay Street. Going towards Tybee Island is Fort Pulaski in savannah Habror. Nice place, but, on the walls are photographs and included are the first ever photos ever taken of a baseball game in progress. It was a group picture of confederate soldiers, but, in the background, in the quadrangle is a baseball game being played…taken in 1862.
Okay folks, I have to get in bed now if I have any chance of staying up for tomorrow’s late game.
Lots of coffee may be needed
Good night Yankee people!
Pat M
if you did not already tell Betsy about the old southern lady’s restaraunt that you like that is NOT Paula deans
I forgot the name you made it sound real good
“why can’t joba be dominating immediately like lincecum?
he has the stuff to do so ”
People make this assumption and it’s actually not true.
Lincecum broke into the majors at age 23, right now he’s 25. Joba was 21 and is now 23.
Lincecum pitched to a 4.00 ERA in his first year – he threw 146 innings in 25 starts. Don’t forget, this is in the NL west. Joba in his first full year of starting (this year) has a 4.03 ERA through 84 innings.
This is Joba’s first full year as a starter and he’s the same age Lincecum was when he was a rookie. Let’s see where Joba is at the end of the season. He already has more experience than Lincecum did at the same age.
I’m not saying Joba will win the Cy Young award next year but right now he’s right where Lincecum was at the same age. In fact, I’d say he’s further along than Lincecum was.
Uncle Ellsworth, I do a lot of reading about restaurants and travel – darn, the name of the restaurant is at the tip of my tongue. Is it Mrs. Wilke’s Boarding House? LOL I could be way off – I think that’s in Savannah, but I don’t even know for sure. I don’t think I’ll be steering my parents to Paula Dean’s – I don’t like (actually I hate) touristy places…..
CarBomb,
Not to play hall monitor here but besides the obvious offensive nature of posts like that, Pete has continuously asked us to tone down the rhetoric and observe a sensible degree of civility.
He points out that this blog is a part of his newspaper. People who visit the on-line version of the paper can view these comments.
I doubt that his publishers would be too thrilled to see words like that in their New York based newspaper.
And one more thing. The reason we are all here enjoying this is because of Pete’s work. Now I do not have any personal information regarding Pete’s background or religion, but his last name may suggest that he could very well be a member of the religion that was sort of slurred here tonight. I do know that several of his colleagues and friends are definitely Jewish.
It’s about respect.
No hitter over
no hitter over
base hit
“I have no idea. I don’t think he’ll ever make it to free agency though. He’s too good not to be given a contract extension.”
I believe that Lincecum has indicated that he is not interested in signing an extension. He wants to get to the market. Could be wrong but I think the Giants have brought up the idea of extending him and he’s been cool to it.
Lincecum starts to get expensive this winter. For inexplicable reasons the Giants brought Lincecum up before May 15 of this rookie year (which was the season right after he was drafted). That decision makes Lincecum a super 2 player this winter and arb eligible. The Giants were a terrible team Lincecum’s rookie year and calling him up before May 15 was no advantage to their season. He did have an ERA of 0.28 in the minors before they called him up but that decision cost them millions.
Even now it is hard to believe he lasted until the 10th pick of that 2006 draft. He played at Washington – was the best player in the country that year – and 9 teams passed on him because he wasn’t 6 ft 3. The mariners watched him pitch in their back yard all year. And then they selected Brandon Marrow with the 5th or 6th pick in the draft that year.
Imagine King Felix and Lincecum on the same staff.
Lincecum loses the no-no.
Bo Knows, I just love them – it’s not even like I eat them often. I really can’t find them up here, so I eat them when I’m down South. It’s like polenta, the soft kind – grits are a perfect cushion for shrimp (man, there is nothing like shrimp and grits. I’m killing myself now, lol)
Bingo!
Wilkes.
I would shy away from Dean’s place too
Wow, GB – Fort Pulaski sounds really cool……I’m going to have a great time down there- can’t wait.
I’d better practice my boarding house reach if we go to Mrs. Wilkes…..yumm, fried chicken. I’ve got to eat something now, lol
Betsy
July 9th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
GB, I am a Civil War buff, so yep, I knew that Savannah was spared. I love the South (no, I don’t count Florida, lol) – the people in Charleston (and I assume, Savannah) are so friendly. I guess it has to do with the pace and way of life there – but it’s really wonderful. I get a kick out of joking about being a Yankee, lol. I went to see the Hunley submarine a few years ago and they still had guards in Confederate uniforms standing at attention (this was only until the remains of the crew, found in the sub, were finally interred. One of them had a horn playing Dixie (I LOVE that song) and they all kissed my hand……sigh.
Thanks for the tips! After I get back from Philly (going for a few days), I can concentrate on that trip and do my usual research, esp. on Savannah. I’ll bring my appetite, but I can barely fit into my clothes now – so I’ll just bring a bunch of mumus, lol. Telling me to stay away from candy stores (or any food) is like handing me the key to the candy store. Also…… I LOVE southern food (grits, yum!)…..
Sounds like Mesa is a pretty decent little prospect – sweet.
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Yeah, Florida is considered NYC’s 6th borough.
Speaking of the CSA Hunley, I have a very close friend (shocking, I know) that was on the diving team that found the Hunley. They showed the diving expedition on the History Channel. He said it was the greatest experience of his life.
about 180 due west of Savannah, and just south of Macon is Andersonville Prison. Unbelievable feeling just being there.
I’ll leave you my lifetime supply of grits. I don’t like them at all.
GB, I’ve been to both..In fact I’m on the Savannah Sweets mailing list…..Betsy, I’m a transplanted NY’er who lives in Orange County, south of LA…..Savannah is one of my favorite cities ( no summer though )….I go there at least once a year when visiting St. Simons Island….There’s a great Sushi place not far from the old Cemetery…..Rebecca, great column tonight……
lol at this Giants game. Pitching from the stretch for the first time this late in the game has to be tough.
Pat M: Thanks =)
“Imagine King Felix and Lincecum on the same staff.”
I can’t, it hurts my brain.
Yikes … thank you Bill Bavasi for being such a dope
Betsy, do you like cheesesteak?
Small m, I applaud your courage in returning here just hours after you said Melancon was dead to you…
Lincecum loses the no-no.
Tony jr looked like his dad with that slap hit to LF.
Betsy
I’ve eaten all over. As I said I had breakfast at the Whaffle House just to watch the short order cooks. Efficiency in motion. Spent six weeks in Atlanta during the Olympics and tried Grits every day. The unanimous decision was that they were there to make the rest of the food taste good.
I love Tim Lincecum. Him and Grady Sizemore are my two favorite non-Yankees.
Felix is a beast.
Wow, GB – that’s amazing. What an experience for your friend and what a remarkable thing that they found the sub. I’m glad the remains were still there so that the crew could be given a proper burial – it was a big deal. What was also neat was that they found the gold coin that the captain (I forget his name – George?) kept as a lucky charm. It really was dented – it saved his life when he was shot in a previous battle.
They do tours of Andersonville? I probably won’t get a chance to go there, but that would be some experience. I’m not even sure I can handle something like that. I never go to Holocaust museums because it’s too difficult to look at pictures – and Civil War prisoners (on both sides) remind me of Holocaust victims – absolutely brutal that people were treated like that.
Kiss my grits.
“I can’t, it hurts my brain.”
Think about this – Felix is almost two years younger than Lincecum.
Barring injury Felix is the next big free agent pitcher the yankees go after (non-chapman I suppose…).
He’ll be a free agent at the age of 25.
LOL Pat M – yep, not a good idea to be down there during the Summer. I went to Charleston last March and prior to that, in November (a few years ago)…….I don’t like heat and humidity, so I leave those months to the locals.
Bo Knows, I think grits are a food that you either like or don’t – there’s no in between.
Do the royals have another win in em?
Nick, oh my god – I LOVE cheesesteak. I only have it when I’m in Philly (which is hardly ever). No cheese whiz or American for me – I’m a provolone girl.
Uncle Ellsworth
July 9th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Pat M
if you did not already tell Betsy about the old southern lady’s restaraunt that you like that is NOT Paula deans
I forgot the name you made it sound real good
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Lady and Sons, 1792, Pirate’s House, Chart House, Pink House, Elizabeth On 37th Street, Mrs. Wilkes are the best. Mulberry Inn is very good, too. If you just want a sandwich and you’re around the malls, go to Schlotzski’s on Eisenhower Drive. Homemade breads including sourdough. Great Reubens.
http://www.google.com/search?h.....38;spell=1
That is incredible about Felix’s age.
He has improved every year he’s been in the majors. He was very very good last year but this year he’s insane.
A 23 year old Cy Young contender, just remarkable.
The Yankees are going to have a 10 man pitching staff if they keep going after the big guns, lol
CB: I thought about that back in March, King Felix in ’11!
But seriously, don’t the Mariners have the money to extend him long term?
GB, thanks! Great Jewish deli in the south? Who’da thunkit? I’m going to save this link………….
Pat M.
July 9th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
GB, I’ve been to both..In fact I’m on the Savannah Sweets mailing list…..Betsy, I’m a transplanted NY’er who lives in Orange County, south of LA…..Savannah is one of my favorite cities ( no summer though )….I go there at least once a year when visiting St. Simons Island….There’s a great Sushi place not far from the old Cemetery…..Rebecca, great column tonight……
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It’s ok to have some of the fudge, but, the salt water taffy is mine.
Well said, Flo.
Betsy, I used to visit Philly a lot, I’ve tried all the famous places and I can say that my favorite of all of them is Steve’s Prince of Steaks. Have you ever had it there?
Betsy
July 10th, 2009 at 12:11 am
GB, thanks! Great Jewish deli in the south? Who’da thunkit? I’m going to save this link………….
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Straight out of that great deli country of Austin, Texas. It really is a great place to grab something and take to the squares and eat on a bench.
Thanks GB
I thought Pat lived there too.
I especially loved the rumor of lincecum for Matsui 2 years ago. Or was it 3? No one knew he was going to be this good, he is special. Freak indeed.
Another thing about Felix, he could be the next 300 game winner. It’s not like he’s won a ton of games – only 47, but he is only 23 and throwing 200 innings a year.
Let’s say he wins 16 games this year, that puts him at 55 wins. If he retires at age 35 and averages 15 wins a year that puts him at 220 wins. If he retires at 40 averaging 15 wins a year that’s 295 wins.
Honestly, with a guy of that talent I think he has a pretty darn good shot at 300 wins.
Then again, he’s only 23 and a lot can happen in 15 years
rebecca,
Felix doesn’t want to sign an extension. He wants to test the market, I believe. As I remember Seattle has brought up the idea of extending him but he hasn’t wanted to. Perhaps now that he’s having such a good year and staying healthy the M’s will try to throw enough money he won’t be able to say no. But to now he hasn’t really wanted to give up free agent years.
He’s basically in the position no free agent has been in since Alex signed with Texas – free agent at 25. In two more years Felix could be the best pitcher in the game. Only thing you worry about with him is the elbow issues he’s had in the past.
But if he’s healthy he’s going to be in a very unique position and I don’t know if the M’s will be able to get it done.
Nick where is Steve’s ?
Never pass up an Alice reference- wink wink
Lets see if Griffey can turn back the clock and go deep.
“I think grits are a food that you either like or don’t – there’s no in between.”
Not true. IMO grits are just alright.
I’ll eat em if they’re there. if not, no big deal.
By the way, No self-respecting southerner uses instant grits.
CB:
If the Yankees pass on Halladay to sign Felix, I will be filled with uncontrollable glee =P
mlb network is great.
Live coverage of Lincecum’s no-no.
Look-ins to all games at crucial points.
Lincecum a free agent, Hernandez a free agent … *drool*
All your ace are belong to us?
Clutch homer by Franklin Guti you know
3 run bomb from Guitierrez saves Hernandez from taking a 1-0 loss on a wild pitch.
That kid Gutierrez can really play..
Steve’s is in north Philly. I think there are three of them (I’ve been to two). The one I’ve been to twice is on Bustleton… I think the neighborhood might be called Bustleton too, but I’m not sure.
If you put “Steve’s Prince of Steaks” into google maps, I think the locations pop up.
Better than Pat’s and Geno’s, better than Jim’s on South St… the one in the Reading Terminal Market (Rick’s) is pretty good, and then you can get Bassett’s ice cream right there.
Betsy
July 10th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Wow, GB – that’s amazing. What an experience for your friend and what a remarkable thing that they found the sub. I’m glad the remains were still there so that the crew could be given a proper burial – it was a big deal. What was also neat was that they found the gold coin that the captain (I forget his name – George?) kept as a lucky charm. It really was dented – it saved his life when he was shot in a previous battle.
They do tours of Andersonville? I probably won’t get a chance to go there, but that would be some experience. I’m not even sure I can handle something like that. I never go to Holocaust museums because it’s too difficult to look at pictures – and Civil War prisoners (on both sides) remind me of Holocaust victims – absolutely brutal that people were treated like that.
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As bizarre as it might seem, the Hunley was always ill-fated. It actually sank three different times and raised and repaired twice. the second time, the sub was on sea trials and sank. The man that was in charge of the operations was the man the boat was named after, HL Hunley.
All your ace are belong to us
Classic
Bigger upside: Franlkin Guittierez or Adam Jones?
Thanks Nick
like dive bars? ever go to Dirty Frank’s or Oscar’s?
rebecca,
Things have changed a great deal with the organization over the past 6-7 years but…
They loved Felix when he was 16. Loved him. I still can’t believe they lost him to the M’s – whatever the reason was.
If Felix hits the market the yankees will be all in.
You can never bank on signing one free agent two years from now but you do know that if you lock away payroll flexibility you won’t be able to react to issues like Felix not accepting an extension and hitting the market.
25 as a free agent. That’s the kind of guy you go after.
The team is poised now to be very good for a long time and to be good based on pitching.
I’m going with Adam Jones
Uncle Ellsworth
July 10th, 2009 at 12:14 am
Thanks GB
I thought Pat lived there too.
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No, PAT visits but doesn’t live here. Dennis (the Boston fan) lives here, but, we only allow him to stay about 6 months a year. Imagine if you can, a red neck with Boston accent ordering grits? If he stays longer than 6 months, we’re afraid that he may contaminate us. His wife is more than welcome to stay, though.
Are those bars in Philly? Never been. I was seeing a Penn coed for a while, but I probably won’t be back in Philly any time soon.
Grits are just brutal…I do like the two yutes though….Felix will go the with his emancipation after the 2010 season….Seattle just might move him in the off season….We all remember the winter of Johan ( 2007 / 2008 )
CB: Wait, King Felix was in the Yankee system? And we let him go?
Head, meet desk.
steve’s is the DEAL
“CB: Wait, King Felix was in the Yankee system? And we let him go?
Head, meet desk.”
no we had an agreement with him on a deal but he backed down..something to that effect
So, I just heard that Hanrahan got the win while taking a nap.
Are they going to make us take Ichiro’s contract too???
Rebecca, pretty sure he was an international signing that the Mariners outbid the Yankees on.
head meets desk either way
rebecca,
no he was never in the system. but it was close. very close. when he was 16 he was arguably the best latin american pitching prospect ever. he was an enormous talent and it was clear he was very special.
it looked like the yankees were going to sign him. it looked like it was almost a done deal. but then the m’s got him at the last minute. there’ve been conflicting stories as to why. one was that felix didn’t want to pitch in NY or didn’t want to pitch in NY at such a young age. Also heard that the M’s swept in and offered more money.
they liked felix a lot. they wanted him and it looked like it was going to happen. and then it fell apart.
Mariners didn’t have the highest bid. His Idol played for the Mariners at the time so he signed with them. Freddy Garcia I think.
Nick Yes they are downtown – pretty fun
Coed? You sound like Holden Caulfield
GB ah yes – forgive me for confusing my elder statesmen
“Bigger upside: Franlkin Guittierez or Adam Jones?”
We could play the game “Tin marin de dos pingue” and it will always land on Adam Jones.
Why, I mean, Why?!!! would anyone choose the mariners over the Yankees?!?
Freddy Garcia? And where’s Freddy now?
The Yanks supposedly had the high bid on Hernandez, but, his idol was Freddie Garcia who was with Seattle.
His idol was Freddy Garcia???
That’s almost as bad as choosing a number to pay tribute to Dennis Rodman.
LOL Nick…
“The Yanks supposedly had the high bid on Hernandez, but, his idol was Freddie Garcia who was with Seattle.”
Yup, a move he’s been regretting for his life. He passed up NYC for SEA and a SP who no longer is there. I guarantee you Felix wants out.
Nick,
Not as bad as a forward signing with the nba champs and choosing the #37 because that’s the world record for number of weeks at the top of the charts held by michael jackson.
Head meet desk. Desk meet head.
“I thought Doris’s comments were funny regardless of my race/creed. Some people either get the NY Jew Stereotype humor, and some people do not. ”
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Borat (Jewish Stereotype) Humor = funny
Doris from RP not so much funny.
Pete’s got some strange affection for the TC the Bear.
I mean he’s cute and everything…
You know what, m, I just had some work done on my car down in Daly City, and the mechanic both looked and SPOKE just like Cervelli. The only difference was, he had regular brown eyes. It cracked me up.
I was going to try to sneak some blackberry video of him when I picked up my car tonight, but I thought that might be a little too much.
I know that doesn’t have anything to do with Ron Artest, but I just remembered.
Bo Knows,
By the way, thanks for laughing at my lame joke. Usually I’m the only one laughing at my own jokes
Statistical analysis of defense has its limitations and its far from perfect. At times though it can really put a players value in a very different light.
Last year Guittierez put up defensive numbers for the Indians that were mind bogglingly good. Just off the charts good. He was playing out of position in RF because of Sizemore and the Indians traded him for… not much. But his numbers were so good that it was pretty clear that he’d be terrific in CF and if he could hit some he’d be a fantastic player.
This year he’s shown that.
He might not be Adam Jones but he’s going to be an outstanding player for a long time.
Gotta have some pity for Seattle with all the talent that’s left them over the years.
Their biggest moment is still Edgar’s hit in 1995. It’s quite sad.
I mean for us of course. That was a bad night.
The Hitman denied
Coney was the warrior
McDowell, the goat
Patrick, I thought your joke was funny too. I just didn’t want to say so and risk another face punch.
Heh. I have almost no memories of 1995, period.
I remember my third grade teacher and moving into a new house, and that’s it. Certainly nothing as relates to baseball!
Ugly game in ‘Zona. They had a 7-0 lead after 5 innings and now losing 14-7. 10 runs allowed in the 8th. Ross Gload has two groundout force places for 2 RBI in the same inning.
Tim doesn’t pitch in the AL East.
Yawn. Hate to break it to you but Joba doesn’t automatically win the Cy Young if he is pitching in another division.
Well I guess any future career in comedy will be ruined due to my insatiable urge to punch people’s faces.
plays
Speaking of the demented one
http://i30.tinypic.com/2ro2x77.jpg
how long will this last ?
You’re lucky, Rebecca, it was a very sad time… they were supposed to be defending their ’94 title, but it all ended too soon.
Patrick
You need to let your self esteem flourish. Just say to Randi “Non Carborundum ..” Plucky is the word, go get em.
Manuel Banuelos was born in 1991. Does. Not. Compute.
Mrs. Kekich July 10th, 2009 at 12:55 am
Tim doesn’t pitch in the AL East.
Yawn. Hate to break it to you but Joba doesn’t automatically win the Cy Young if he is pitching in another division.
I’m just saying Tim is not the best pitcher in baseball. I could careless what Joba wins if hes in another division.
Haha nice one Bo, thanks for the advice!
Every time I hear the name Ron Artest, I automatically think of Frederic Weis.
I know. It’s a problem.
The sour taste of 95′ did make 96′ all the more sweeter.
95′ made me think of 81′which always makes me think of Thurman. Even though he died 2 years earlier.
I don’t know. I was young. I remember thinking that they lost because Thurm wasn’t there.
96′ made me feel like I was a kid again. Like they had finally overcome losing Thurman. 81′ was righted.
It’s not logical but that’s how I felt.
Nice piece, Pete.
As a Yankees fan, I’ll miss the Metrodome, cuz the Yanks have had quite a bit of success there. As a Vikings fan, I can’t wait till the day when they implode it.
What I remember about 1996 is knowing very little about baseball except the names Derek Jeter and Andy Pettitte.
I remember after Game 2 my dad taking me to school in the morning and I asked if the Yankees won and my dad said “of course not”.
So I said, “What do you mean of course not? Isn’t it best of seven?”
And my dad said, “Yes, you have to win four games but the Yankees aren’t going to”.
Uh huh.
Every time I hear the name Frederic Weis, I automatically think of Vince Carter making a porn tape on an NBA court.
Has anybody addressed the concern about the potential for a ton of games being postponed due to weather? It gets really cold up there and early season and late september and postseason could get really interesting if it starts snowing.
That’s pretty funny, Nick. The guy probably thought you were funny kine, staring at his eyes.
So, according to Kepner, Gardner had 2 rbi for the 3rd straight game? And we’re apparently tied with Boston? When did all this happen?
Geez, time flies when we’re winning.
Would be good to take the series, and maybe Joba will have the reverse LoHud jinx.
Pete, from your view in the press box – At the Wednesday night game in MN they did a bit between innings where someone tries to toss baseballs into a giant ice cream carton. One of the stray balls was left in right field for 4 innings! What would have happened had that ball caused a problem? And why does the time between innings go so fast at the ballpark and take SO LONG when you are stuck at home watching commercials? Finally, being a Minnesotan I also wonder about the logic of an open air stadium. Why they didn’t go with the retractable roof? – only the powers-that-be pretend to know that.
I’m going out on a limb here, but I’m guessing that Stanley Tools is a sponsor of some sort. So long crappy concrete field teflon taped building. And, good luck playing meaningful baseball OUTDOORS in Minneapolis in April and September.
I realize no one’s commented on this article since July 10, i.e. no one’s read it since July 10, but in case any of you morons in different parts of the country DO happen to read this, please read this slowly as if I were speaking the words aloud to you – as if you were stupid:
WHEN. WILL. YOU. YAHOOS. WAKE. THE. F*&%. UP. AND. REALIZE. THAT. WEATHER. IN. MINNEAPOLIS. IN. APRIL.
Sorry, are you getting winded? Slow down. Catch your breath, it’s okay. Ready?
WEATHER. IN. MINNEAPOLIS. IN. APRIL. IS. THE. FREAKIN. SAME. AS. IT. IS. ACROSS. THE. REST. OF. THE. MIDWEST.. THAT. MEANS. KANSAS CITY. ST.LOUIS. CHICAGO. MILWAUKEE. CLEVELAND. DETROIT. CINCINNATI. PITTSBURGH.. HOW. MANY. OF. THOSE. STADIUMS. ARE. DOMES? THAT’S. RIGHT.. ONE.. ONE.. SAY. IT. WITH. ME. NOW.. WOUUUUOOONNE.. MILWAUKEE.. AND. THAT’S. BECAUSE. THEY. LIKE. PLAYING. INDOOR. BASEBALL. ON. A. BEAUTIFUL. 78. DEGREE. NIGHT. IN. JULY.. WHY. YOU. ASK? WELL.. OUR. GOOD. FRIEND. SELIG. OWNS. THE. TEAM.. WHY. DON’T. YOU. ASK. HIS. STUPID. A$$. FOR. THOSE. OF. YOU. MENTAL. MIDGETS. WHO. STILL. THINK. OUTDOOR. BASEBALL. IN. MINNEAPOLIS. IN. APRIL. IS. GOING. TO. BE. A. PROBLEM, LOOK. AROUND. THE. REST. OF. THE. MIDWEST, SUCK. IT. UP, PUT. ON. AN. EXTRA. FREAKIN. T-SHIRT, AND. GO. ENJOY. BASEBALL. THE. WAY. IT. WAS. MEANT. TO. BE. PLAYED. EVERYWHERE. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS. OUTDOORS.
OR. FREAKIN. STAY. THE. HELL. AT. HOME.
Hey! Wonderful thought, but will this actually operate?