Game 86: Yankees at Angels (updated with Girardi pre-game audio and roster move)
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YANKEES (51-34)
Jeter DH
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Ransom SS
Molina C
Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (4-2, 4.04).
ANGELS (46-37)
Figgins 3B
Izturis 2B
Abreu RF
Rivera LF
Morales 1B
Napoli DH
Matthews CF
Mathis C
Aybar SS
Pitching: LHP Joe Saunders (8-5, 4.44).
TIME/TV: 10:05 p.m., YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees have won three straight, six of seven and 13 of 15.
HIGH SCORING: The Yankees lead the majors in runs (477), OBP (.358) and slugging (.469). They are second in home runs (126) and BA (.275).
KINGS OF THE ROAD: The Yankees are 25-18 on the road including eight straight for the first time since the 1998 team won nine straight from April 20-May 8. The Yankees have gone 67 consecutive innings on the road without trailing.
JOBAMANIA: This is a somewhat important start for young Mr. Chamberlain. He’s in no danger of losing his job but he is in danger of losing the faith of his teammates if he continues the pace he is on. In his last 31.1 innings, he has allowed 38 hits (four of them homers), 14 walks and hit three batters.
HE SOAKS UP THE SUN: Robinson Cano is a career .345 hitter in July.
MO THE MAGNIFICENT: Mariano Rivera’s last 13 outings: 13.2 innings, 4 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 15 strikeouts.
ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: The Pretender by Jackson Browne. Part of the California mix on my iPod.
Back with more later on.
UPDATE, 6;53 p.m.: Based on his not getting dressed, Jon Albaladejo is being sent down.
UPDATE, 7:24 p.m.: Yep. Albaladejo optioned.
Also, I’ll be on ESPN News at 9:10.
UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: Not much news to report. Mark Melancon arrived and said he feels more comfortable than he did his first time up. He could give them as many as 45 pitches. … The Yankees will not need a No. 5 starter until July 21. Sergio Mitre is the only AAA starter they are considering. Barring something unexpected, it will be Mitre or Aceves. They’ll watch Mitre pitch Sunday for Scranton and evaluate him from there. … Jeter is getting a DH day as he won’t get much time off next week thanks to starting in the All-Star Game.
Mike Myers, who now works for the MLBPA, visited the clubhouse before the game.
Lots of newspaper work to do. I’ll check in later.
UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game audio:
UPDATE, 9:57 p.m.: Barry Williams — Greg Brady — is singing the anthem. Got to love California. Where is Maureen McCormick? Loved her.
UPDATE, 9:59 p.m.: Nice work by Johnny Bravo.
Meanwhile, Phil Hughes is getting the night off. Just FYI.
UPDATE, 10:57 p.m.: We’re underway with a single from the Captain. Yes, that is Scott Boras sitting behind home plate. The Prince of Darkness is here to keep an eye on his assorted clients. He has Angels and Dodgers seasons.
UPDATE, 10:13 p.m.: Teixeira got booed but nothing like he did in Baltimore. They’re too laid back here.
UPDATE, 10:17 p.m.: The Yankees are like a machine at this point. Single, walk, double, single, 3-0. A-Rod hustles to second and then scores from there as Juan Rivera makes a bad throw.
My belief is that the presence of Barry Williams has inspired this.
UPDATE, 10:23 p.m.: Joba has a 3-0 and is facing a team that just DL’s Hunter and Guerrero. If he does that nibbling thing again, Molina should go to the mound and drop him on his head. No shaking off, just throw the pitch, Meat.
UPDATE, 10:26 p.m.: No shakes, 1-2-3 inning, 9 pitches / 7 strikes. Don’t think, just throw.
UPDATE, 10:32 p.m.: Here is how important rehab stats are for big leaguers: Molina was 1 for 11 in the minors. First at-bat after being activated: Solid two-strike base hit up the middle.
UPDATE, 10:39 p.m.: The Yankees wear lefties out. 4-0 and two on with one out.
Remember when I said 3-3 would be a good road trip? Yeah, not so much.
UPDATE, 10:44 p.m.: 4-0 for Joba. Let’s if that first inning was a fluke.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Fluke it is. His velocity disappeared this inning. No better than 92 so far. 19 pitches so far, one out.
UPDATE, 10:56 p.m.: Paging First Inning Joba. First Inning Joba, you have a call on the white courtesy phone.
UPDATE, 10:58 p.m.; 25 pitches this inning and counting.
UPDATE, 11:16 p.m.: Better third inning for Joba as he worked the strike zone. He has looked a lot better tonight. 4-1 Yankees after three innings.
Joba so far: 3 3 1 1 1 3. 52 pitches / 32 strikes.
UPDATE, 11:22 p.m.: Jeter 3 for 3. Eat it, Forbes.
UPDATE, 11:30 p.m.: We’re going to see Mark Melancon and Brian Bruney before this night is over. Joba will be 70+ before the fourth inning is over. He’s just not efficient.
UPDATE, 11:37 p.m.: Alex goes deep. That’s 15 on the season and 568 overall, one shy of fellow loosey-goosey Texas slugger Rafael Palmeiro on the all-time list.
5-1 Yankees.
UPDATE, 11:58 p.m.: Joba closing on 90 pitches. 88 pitches / 54 strikes. Not a good enough ratio when you’re handed a 3-0 lead.
This’ll be another standard 5.1 inning game for him, if that.
UPDATE, 12:01 a.m.: Nice visit to the mound by Girardi as Joba gives up a bomb. Brand new game, 5-5.
UPDATE, 12:02 a.m.: Thats it. 4.1 innings. If Joba says after the game that he pitched well, he should get sent back to Scranton. Not one teammate, save Jeter, has gone over to him in the dugout. They’re tired of his act.
Not one. Jeter patted him on the back and nobody has talked to him. He needs an intervention at this point. You can’t keep falling behind hitters and expect to pitch well.
They gave him a 3-0 lead against a depleted team and he pitched horrendously.
UPDATE, 12:11 a.m.: Joba’s last 35.2 innings: 47 hits and 15 walks. If he’s under the impression that is good enough, somebody needs to tell him it’s not.
UPDATE, 12:18 a.m.: Joba’s last seven starts: 35.2 innings 47 hits, 27 runs, 20 earned runs, 15 walks, 27 strikeouts, 5 home runs, 675 pitches, 402 strikes.
Averaging 5.1 innings a start is not acceptable. Neither is averaging about 19 pitches an inning.
UPDATE, 12:24 a.m.: And the Yankees trail on the road for the first time in 72 innings.
You knew one of these games was coming eventually. But this is really bad. Do they have another comeback in them?
UPDATE, 12:45 a.m.: Yankees will give up the DH, have Jeter play short and then pinch hit later on. Interesting game.
Based loaded for Godzilla against Oliver. Isn’t this how it usually works? Joba pitches poorly, they still win.
UPDATE, 12:54 a.m.: Wow, Jeter just pulled a Luis Castillo and dropped a pop-up. But nobody scored. What a crazy game.
UPDATE, 1:03 a.m.: And the disaster continues. Brian Bruney comes in and walks Jeff Mathis before giving up a home run to Erick Aybar, the No. 9 hitter. 10-6 Angels and the road win streak is heading for an inglorious end.
Cue the Chicken Littles who will pronounce the season over. That is always good for a laugh. Because, you know, they were supposed to win all the rest of them.
Bruney can’t be healthy. Either he is hurt or something is really wrong.
Meanwhile, Posada just caught a pop bare-handed when Figgins knocked his glove off accidentally.
UPDATE, 1:18 a.m.: And Bruney just threw a pitch up and in to Abreu for some reason. Bobby Abreu?
UPDATE, 1:31 a.m.: Yankees have forced Fuentes into the game, he’ll face Posada.
UPDATE, 1:35 a.m.: That’s the game. Messy loss for the Yankees. Back later with reaction.
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What kind of crap lineup is that?
Ransom at short?
Molina catching?
Joe Saunders must be licking his chips….
Their best players are on the DL. We’ll be fine.
Does Ransom really need to play this often?
Maybe Jeter’s a little banged up but there’s only 3 games until the break. Now you have Molina and Ransom starting.
I know, I know, don’t complain about the lineup.
I just feel with 3 games to go until the ASB, unless Jeter’s hurt, there’s no reason to give him a DH day and weaken your team significantly defensively and offensively.
i will not complain about the lineup.
i will not complain about the lineup.
i will not complain about the lineup.
i will not complain about the lineup.
i will not complain about the lineup.
i will not complain about the lineup.
i will not complain about the lineup.
ugh, okay im good. GO YANKEES!
God, everytime I see Ranson in the lineup I want to throw up.
Why is Ransom still playing? The guy is garbage.
I miss Pena.
Safe to say this is the first time we’ve seen this lineup?
Why not rest Jeter on another day and let Hip Hip DH?
I really don’t understand why Joe sits Matsui against LHP’s. Is Jeter hurt somehow and can’t play in the field?
Francour traded for Church.
Very interesting.
Any word on who was sent down for Melancon?
Girardi isn’t risking blowing anybody out on an older team.
He’s proven to be pretty adapt at balance rest and PT.
If he wasn’t, they wouldn’t be 17 over .500 right now.
Remember, there isn’t an “All Star Break” for Jeter.
He’s playing in the game.
Probably what Girardi has in mind which is why he’s giving him a half day off this evening.
Torii & Vlad on the DL guarantees nothing.
But it’ll be an embarrassment if they lose this series.
Run prevention is the catchphrase for the night.
I want to see Ransom sky for a line drive.
I got no problem with Jeter resting. I just worry about Ransom’s defense at short…
Ransom is really not that bad. Think all the way back to last seasons backup shortstop…Ransom is like a field level seat- free bottle of wine- Mark Teixiera kind of upgrade.
Oops. Hip Hip is Jorge, NOT A-rod.
Why no Matsui he is great against left handers he is on a hot streak why sit him he didn’t play yesterday either. Ransom is brutal he makes an error in every game. If you need to rest Posada then you rest Jeter tommorow. You cant take both Posada and Matsui out of the lineup.
Big game for Joba tonight. I believe the game will be decided based on his performance.
He seems to pitch pretty well on the road, so I’m predicting a strong start for him tonight.
Matsui is not in the lineup because Jeter is at DH… Where else do we put Matsui?
Joba would of pitched fine against the blue jays if the bum Ransom didn’t make another costly error. DFA Ransom bring back Pena. Ransom kills yankee pitchers. He did it to Joba and he did it yesterday to Aceves.
With Arod and Teixara in the lineup, you can rest whoever you want, whenever you want.
Here is why pena is not at ss tonight.
“As I type this, Ramiro Pena (right) is in center field taking fly balls from roving outfielder instructor Jack Hubbard. He started by taking some ground balls, working on charging them and coming up ready to throw, but now it looks like Hubbard is going over some of the nuances of tracking fly balls.
Manager Dave Miley said yesterday that there’s a chance Pena could get a start in the outfield in the next two days. ”
http://community.thetimes-trib.....notes.aspx
one quick post before i leave for a bit: ransom, dont disappoint…..and stop complaining about the lineup…
If that error spooked Joba, he belongs in the minors. You pick up your teammates when they make an error.
They have been picking up Joba all year.
Stop making excuses for Joba. He’s an adult and a major league baseball player. You play through mistakes and get the job done.
I don’t mind resting Jeter at SS, but I think Ransom is not a ML player and that the Yankees should have a better backup infielder than him.
Hinske must be wishing he was back in Pittsburgh. The guy never plays.
Bleich pitching for Trenton.
The Yankees are hot and playing great but could you imagine how much better they would be without Joe Hazelwood (a.k.a. Girardi) drunk at the wheel? His in-game management is atrocious and his lineups are just plain inexcusable. How long did it take to get the never-hustling slacker Cano out of the 5 spot? Why is Ransom here and Pena not? I can go on and on. Girardi is more of a benefactor of a great team than Torre ever was. It’s getting out of hand. Mark my words here: Joe Girardi will cost us the season with his horrible in-game management during the playoffs.
“Girardi isn’t risking blowing anybody out on an older team.
He’s proven to be pretty adapt at balance rest and PT.”
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I’d prefer Matsui, arguably the hottest hitter on the team, didn’t sit 2 games in a row.
Jeter gets 2 days off at the AS break. He’s playing in 1 game on 1 night.
Can anybody tell me what the fascination is with Ransom. I realize Hinske can’t play short but he should be in whenever Arod is out
I agree with SJ44 on the excuses for Joba.
However, Ransom stinks and there is no way to get around that. I hold my breath everytime a ground ball heads towards him.
CORRECTION:
The Yanks have Thursday off as well.
So Jeter will have Monday, Wednesday, AND Thursday off.
I think he can play SS the next 3 games.
Ransom is going to make at least two errors tonight at short.
Hitdeki is hitting .239 against lefties…………..
“Hitdeki is hitting .239 against lefties…………..”
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that stat is meaningless unless he’s also hitting .239 against lefties during his recent hot streak.
he’s the team’s hottest hitter. don’t sit him out 2 games in a row.
just my opinion.
Dave,
He’s traveling to St. Louis and playing in the game. Its a working vacation for him. Its not like he has 3-4 days off to head out of the country with Minka.
Plus, he just played 27 innings on turf and he’s 35 years old.
Its not a problem to rest him for half a game.
Boston Dave 2.0
July 10th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
CORRECTION:
The Yanks have Thursday off as well.
So Jeter will have Monday, Wednesday, AND Thursday off.
I think he can play SS the next 3 games.
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Sitting down one of the teams hottest hitter in Matsui two days in a row is dumb. They are 3 games left before the break. Put out the best lineup and try to win these 3 games and than enjoy the 4 days off all but 3 players on the yankees will have.
If we don’t score runs or Joba doesn’t pitch well, blame Ransom (or Girardi for playing him…)
im not all that wowed by joba the starter either.
im glad they are giving him every chance to succeed, but i now that his continued presence in the rotation is keeping phil in the bullpen, im beginning to wonder. we are where we are because of decisions that were made months ago, but if i had it to start all over, id rather have joba in the pen and phil in the roation.
im hoping joba’s gonna start showing us more as a starter soon but it might be time to reconsider the rotation again if he doesnt.
at some point they have to put the brakes on joba b/c of innings and they will be stunting phil’s development as a starter if he doesnt get more innings than he will get out of the pen. looking at what it would take to flip flop the two might be in order here.
Matsui has 3 HR in his past 21 AB.
2 of them off lefties.
the other? off Roy Halladay.
get him AB!!!
Why is Swisher hitting 5th?
The guy is hitting .200 with RISP, A-Rod is not going to see a meaningful pitch to hit all night.
Just an all round terrible lineup. I’ll be shocked if we score more than 2 runs.
17 games over .500 and the same stupid whining every freaking day.
Some fans want robots/surrogates for their best players that way they play every game.:)
I miss Pena, not sure what value ransom has over pena.
I agree that Ransom is not a great option. Unfortunately, he’s the backup SS for right now.
I just get tired of the excuses for Joba.
Its the new Yankee Stadium…
Its Posada….
Its Girardi….
Its Eiland….
Its anybody who makes an error and doesn’t get a hit with RISP….
Its the humidity…..
Enough already. Joba’s problem is Joba. As soon as people and Joba realize that, the better off everyone will be.
Saunders has given up 20 HRs this year… abnormally high for a sinkerball pitcher.
I agree – ridiculous move to put Ransom at short. He can’t field a lick – and now he’s going to get his hands on the ball a LOT, being at short. Asinine. Jeter will get his rest during the ASB – he’s only going to play 3 innings in the game itself. Ugh -
Zed
July 10th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
If we don’t score runs or Joba doesn’t pitch well, blame Ransom (or Girardi for playing him…)
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Too bad we can’t blame JoPo tonight…
“He’s traveling to St. Louis and playing in the game. Its a working vacation for him. Its not like he has 3-4 days off to head out of the country with Minka.”
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irrelevant, IMO.
they are still days off.
he’ll have 3 days over the course of 4 days that he won’t be playing on turf or anywhere else.
the result is benching the hottest hitter on the team. just doesn’t seem a smart decision…
With the exception of Molina’s good defensive ability it’s a 7-man lineup. Ransom and Molina with a bat in their hands makes it so.
For those of you complaining about the lineup, ask yourself this:
Would you rather have this lineup or whatever the Mets are throwing out tonight?
Unless your answer is the Mets, remember that things could be that much worse.
SJ44,
What can I tell you? Some fans love to complain or make excuses for their favorite players.
However, they have a point about Ransom. He stinks and so did Berroa.
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PAWTUCKET, R.I. — The police arrested two Pawtucket men on charges that they stole wheels from the car of Triple-A All-Star pitcher Clay Buchholz of the Pawtucket Red Sox.
Detective Donti Rosciti said a neighbor of Buchholz’s called the police at 4 a.m. Friday to report a theft in progress.
When officers arrived, they found Buchholz’s 2007 BMW hoisted on bricks. Two of the car’s four wheels had been removed.
Tony Reverdes, 28, of 172 Magill St., and Airton Monteiro, 21, of 52 Centre St., were arrested on felony charges of possession of stolen vehicle parts, larceny over $500, and tampering with an automobile.
They were arraigned Friday afternoon in district court in Providence.”
Now, you would think Bucholz of all people would understand the need to steal!
Wow, why don’t they just DFA Tomko?
ransom is so bad…
1 thing to look forward to this series is no Garret Anderson
p.s.
Jeter didn’t play 27 innings on turf
Ransom relieved him in one of the games
SJ44
July 10th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
I agree that Ransom is not a great option. Unfortunately, he’s the backup SS for right now.
I just get tired of the excuses for Joba.
Its the new Yankee Stadium…
Its Posada….
Its Girardi….
Its Eiland….
Its anybody who makes an error and doesn’t get a hit with RISP….
Its the humidity…..
Enough already. Joba’s problem is Joba. As soon as people and Joba realize that, the better off everyone will be.
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Joba doesn’t make any excuses. He never once said anything negative about Posada, Eiland, Girardi or that butcher Cody Ransom.
Enough already. Joba’s problem is Joba. As soon as people and Joba realize that, the better off everyone will be.
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Forget “people”, I think Joba needs to realize that. I’m not saying he’s blaming others, but the only person I want Joba to blame is himself and then learn from his mistakes.
Coach,
Funny thing is, its the usual candidates with different screen names. You can tell by the writing styles.
13-2 in their last 15 is not enough! Win every night! Any loss, FIRE GIRARDI!!!
Joba needs to slow down the Angels track meet tonight and give Molina a chance…..Keeping Figgins off the bases is key….My faith and confidence in Ransom is suspect at best…..Joba turns in a solid performance tonight if he pounds the zone with strike one….Halos copied the Dynasty Yanks in working the count, they have a surpringly effecient offense as they score 5.4 runs per game and without the longball…..Maybe the trade banter will wake up Joba as the boo’s must still be fresh in his mind…..
Wow, Alby being sent down? Now how does that make any sense? Who’s making the decisions for the team, some high schooler? Alby has done a very solid job since coming back up and he can give us a couple of innings. Robertson is strictly for mop up duty at this point – I have zero faith in him as he can not control his pitches. Terrible.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 10th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
For those of you complaining about the lineup, ask yourself this:
Would you rather have this lineup or whatever the Mets are throwing out tonight?
Unless your answer is the Mets, remember that things could be that much worse.
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The Mets have Francoeur now. Time for them to steamroll their way to the top.
1 thing to look forward to this series is no Garret Anderson
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And no K-Rod.
SJ, Ransom is going to get plenty of chances to screw up in the field tonight. Jeter will get the ASB off except for a few innings in the game. He needs to rest right now, why? I don’t think Ransom belongs on the team or even in the majors – I’m sorry, but he sucks.
the angels put guerrero and hunter on the d.l. so they will be missing thier best 2 hitters. also, you can bet that matsui will get an at-bat in this game, probably with 2 men on.
Wow do I hope Molina and Ransom have great games tonight.
It is, what it is. Go Yankees!
Dave,
Its not irrelevent. Its not time off from baseball.
Counting travel, the guy has a day and a half off from baseball. That’s not an ASB in the traditional sense.
No, you are correct, Joba doesn’t blame anybody. Including himself.
According to him, he had great stuff the other day. Toronto just hit him.
Denial isn’t a river in Africa. Its Joba believing he had great stuff in his last start.
My only complaint is Ransom. If you’re going to have a career AAAA player as a utility player can he at-least either hit or play some D?
Molina can’t hit worth a lick but he brings defense to the table. Ransom on the other…
He’s Angel Berroa part deux.
Robertson pitches better in low leverage situations.
They weren’t releasing Tomko because the idea is to have more pitchers available for today, not less.
Jesus Montero reached base, somehow (now on third after a double), either a single or a walk or reached on an error, but I missed it.
I’m surprised by whom they sent down because he’s pitching better than Robertson.
What does everybody think of the Met trade? I think the Braves got the better of the deal. If the Mets think Frenchy is going to give them much needed home run power they are sadly mistaken. I didn’t have a problem with them getting rid of Church since he clearly was not happy here but I think they could have done better
all this whining makes me think about my first wife…
Joba seems to be able to get strike one AND strike 2. And then he has trouble.
Despite the injury to Wang, I don’t think we need to trade for a starting pitcher. Why are we about to trade for a starting pitcher when we have more than adequate options in house?
I’m not trading for Halladay if it means we have to give up AJax or Montero. And I’m not all too interested in Harang or Washburn, both of which raise big question marks and would end up costing $$.
I’m much more in favor of slotting Hughes or Aceves in the place of Wang until Wang is healthy again. Aceves, once he is stretched out, is going to be a very solid pitcher. He’s got 4 pitches that he has average or better command of and they’re all decent enough ML pitches to get people out. Posada and Molina know how to call a good game, know the opposing hitters. Ace is a veteran as far as we know, despite that he’s a “rookie.”
Let him pitch. If it doesn’t work, Hughes gets the next call. I’m sick of giving up talent for other teams’ players. We developed this farm system, especially the pitching, for a reason. Let’s use it.
isn’t it possible that Jeter is a little dinged up and Girardi wants to give him part of the night off? They did just play 3 games on artifical turf. For fans of a team that’s won 12 out of 14 you sure do complain a lot.
Betsy – Why are you so upset? It isin’t like Ransom is behind there behind AJ or Hughes or anything…. it’s only Joba after all….
Robertson better pitch better in the next six games especially if Melancon is effective this time out. I think the Yankees might make another roster move for July 21st starter.
Tarheelyank
July 10th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Here is why pena is not at ss tonight.
“As I type this, Ramiro Pena (right) is in center field taking fly balls from roving outfielder instructor Jack Hubbard. He started by taking some ground balls, working on charging them and coming up ready to throw, but now it looks like Hubbard is going over some of the nuances of tracking fly balls.
Manager Dave Miley said yesterday that there’s a chance Pena could get a start in the outfield in the next two days. ”
http://community.thetimes-trib.....notes.aspx
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Tar, I brought this up the other night when about 6 people were complaining about why Pena wasn’t playing in the outfield like he was “supposed” to be. Not sure how they figured they’d just stick him in an outfield spot without any type of instructions and practice. That wasn’t a good enough reason. You can bet that he’s been doing this since he was sent down, and probably doing the same thing in NY.
“Dave,
Its not irrelevent. Its not time off from baseball.
Counting travel, the guy has a day and a half off from baseball. That’s not an ASB in the traditional sense.”
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I guess.
So if Jeter sits on the bench one night, that doesn’t count as a day/game off?
He’ll play 3-5 innings in 1 game over the course of 4 days.
It just seems like they need to get Matsui in the lineup.
2 straight games off for your hottest hitter, unless absolutely necessary, doesn’t add up.
Maybe Jeter asked to be the DH after playing all those innings on turf?
Nah, it’s always easier to blame the manager….
Betsy,
Jeter has a day and a half off for the ASB and played 3 straight games on turf. Giving him a half day isn’t going to hurt anything.
Yes, Ransom is not a great option. But, he’s the backup SS and you don’t run Jeter down simply because your backup SS stinks. You go get a batter backup SS.
Plus, we don’t know if Jeter has any nagging bumps and bruises, do we?
Believe it or not, Girardi knows his team better than we do. He knows which guys are hurting, may need a day, etc.
He’s got to be doing something right since they are playing well, aren’t they?
Looks like Montero walked.
I’d like to see Hinske play more more than once every two weeks……and yes, I know it’s a lefty. I understand he’s a utility player, but still……at least let’s keep him sharp.
No Matsui – lol.
y alby? Robertson stunk, Alby cleaned up his mess and he gets sent down.
Albie is the overrated reliever on the blog
As usual, the organization knows more than the fans.
“isn’t it possible that Jeter is a little dinged up and Girardi wants to give him part of the night off? They did just play 3 games on artifical turf. For fans of a team that’s won 12 out of 14 you sure do complain a lot.”
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it’s possible, sure.
I want the hottest hitter in the lineup, not sitting out consecutive games.
There’s a big elephant-sized difference between questioning the move, since every one of them will have either 3 or 4 days off next week, and complaining.
Jon Albaladejo did a nice job in those 3 games.
But I’m glad Robertson is not getting sent down he has a 2.53 ERA with 31 strikeouts in 21.1 innings pitched. He has been pitching very well and does not deserve to get sent down.
What are Matsui’s numbers against Saunders? Perhaps that is playing a role in the decision. I ask because I don’t know his numbers against Saunders off the top of my head.
Ransom is going to hit a three-run homerun tonight and you’re all going to have complained for nothing. He’s got some pop and he’s not AWFUL defensively. You guys expect All Stars at every position, even on left, right, and center bench.
It’s going to be OK. Jeter, luckily, is still alive and well and will be playing baseball for us tomorrow. I’ve got a feeling he’ll be here a few more years after that, too.
Why don’t we get Troy Tulowitzki to back him up? or Hanley Ramirez?
“all this whining makes me think about my first wife…”
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maybe it was your inability to distinguish between whining and rational questioning that led to her being an ex?
SJ, it’s not so much giving Derek a half day off that’s killing me – it’s that Ransom is replacing him. How many plays is he going to muff tonight? There’s absolutely no excuse for him to be on this team, but Joe loves him, so he stays. I was all for Pena being sent down to work on being a super-sub, but not now.
GB
I remember you bringing it up. All the “I want Pena over Ransom” talk was driving me nuts. I figured I remind people why it was Ransom, and not Pena.
SJ: According to BR, Matsui has never faced Saunders
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 10th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Robertson pitches better in low leverage situations.
They weren’t releasing Tomko because the idea is to have more pitchers available for today, not less.
Jesus Montero reached base, somehow (now on third after a double), either a single or a walk or reached on an error, but I missed it.
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Montero walked and scored on on Hall’s 2 run single.
Why is Swisher batting 5th?
Well let’s see…..
You want Cano there? Haven’t we seen that dosen’t work?
Melky? Molina? Ransom?
Its called, “process of elimination”. You pick the least worst option when faced with that situation.
“What are Matsui’s numbers against Saunders? Perhaps that is playing a role in the decision. I ask because I don’t know his numbers against Saunders off the top of my head.”
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odd, but ESPN shows him as never having faced Saunders.
I suppose that is noteworthy.
Like I said, it’s just rough taking a guy who was tearing the cover off the ball and benching him for 2 straight games.
he had 3 HR in his last 21AB… 2 off lefties and 1 off Halladay.
If it’s necessary, no problem. I just question whether it was necessary.
Ransom being on the roster is Cashman’s call.
He could have very well just released him when he came off the DL, especially with how well Pena was playing.
Betsy,
Ransom isn’t the best option in the world. But, he’s the backup SS for now. I don’t want to burn out Jeter simply because Ransom isn’t good. I don’t see that as a winning strategy.
while I don’t think Girardi is the best manager in baseball (nor the worst) I do think winning is something very important to him and he’s not going to give up a game for the benefit of days off that aren’t needed. He is the one that talks to the players, we don’t. There is clearly a plan for playing time this year and it’s working, the Yankees are 51-34 and have been playing .667 baseball since May.
in regards to ransom vs. pena: pena’s not gonna hit .265 forever, ransom can actually hit hrs. sure one’s an elite defender and the other has not done well in the field, but 10 ABs per week >>> 10 defensive plays per week. it was nice to have pena up when he was swinging a hot bat, but as a bench player there is no way that’s going to continue and you know that his holes would have been found and continually exploited very soon. He could, however, prove to be a very valuable and very cheap bench player in the future if we continue to develop him into (hopefully) a 75 OPS+ guy who can play any position besides P and C. Ransom, meanwhile, is not gonna get any better so there’s no use having him fill a roster spot in AAA, and while he could butcher a play at 3rd or short that pena would have made, his athleticism could just as easily enable him to get to a ball that neither pena nor jeter/a-rod would have and end up saving the game. or he could hit a key home run. I’m not saying he will, or that that’s something we should be expecting out of him, but he is at least capable of hitting home runs. pena is not, and that, combined with the fact that he’ll likely get on base under or around 30% of the time his whole career, makes him, at this point no more valuable to this club than ransom.
No Matsui??????
Joe is a true idiot!!!
No, its not Cashman’s call. Girardi likes Ransom and they wanted to work Pena as a super sub in Scranton.
Their long term plan is to make Pena more versatile so when he comes back, he stays because he can play all over the field.
That’s why Pena is down and Ransom is still here for now.
No other reason.
“There is clearly a plan for playing time this year and it’s working, the Yankees are 51-34 and have been playing .667 baseball since May.”
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Fair enough.
I don’t do much second-guessing of anything Girardi does.
I just found it odd that Matsui was sitting consecutive games especially when all the players will have either 3 or 4 days off next week.
I understand, SJ………..but Jake, yes – Cash should have DFA’d him even if it meant going against his manager (which I hate a GM to do, but in this case, Joe has a blind spot for Ransom).
SJ, what do you think about sending Alby down? I have way more faith in him to get the job done that Robertson……..
GB7.
Hey. Amy tracked your photo and they said it was a wrong address. She double checked your email on her web site and it was the same one you provided. Please check your email as she sent you the tracking # a few hours ago. It is currently in a Savannah fed ex facility.
Thanks!
-dennis
“his athleticism could just as easily enable him to get to a ball that neither pena nor jeter/a-rod would have and end up saving the game”
Are we watching the same Cody Ransom as you? This is the first time I’ve seen the word “athleticism” uttered in the same sentence as “Cody Ransom” since “Cody Ransom has zero athleticism.”
Who cares about how Ransom effects the offense?
I’m worried how he effects Joba. You simply cannot ask a young pitcher to pitch when he knows he has a butcher in the field. It’s not fair to Joba.
how many games have the Yankees lost since Pena went down to Scranton?
Yup, a true “idiot” with the best record in baseball since May.
We should be that “dumb”.
Ransom is going to have a big night
Tarheelyank
July 10th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
GB
I remember you bringing it up. All the “I want Pena over Ransom” talk was driving me nuts. I figured I remind people why it was Ransom, and not Pena.
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Right now, NYY is sacrificing a once a week need for a long term solution in getting an all around better player the instruction he needs to really help the team going foreward. Being able to play 5-6 positions pretty well to very good, run the bases, hit pretty well can do nothing but help Pena’s career and the Yanks.
The bad thing is, it will limit people on what they have to complain about. I suppose they’ll have to be content with getting fat while feeding their faces.
http://www.atdhe.net/7336/watch-royals-vs-red-sox
Red soxs game
Manager’s ALWAYS like the less talented players as “their guys”.
Remember Torre with Miguel Cairo? Andy Phillips?
Please, enough with that “how it affects Joba” nonsense.
I would think Joba has bigger things to worry about than Cody Ransom.
Joba will worry about throwing strikes.
Stop treating a 4 inning starting pitcher like a prima donna.
Don’t post illegal feeds on the blog.
Also, what does that tell you about Joe that he likes Ransom? There’s nothing to like about Cody – his job is to be a good defensive player and he’s not. In fact, I could do a better job with my eyes shut. The Yankees need a better backup infielder if Pena is going to remain in AAA, but apparently that’s not going to happen.
I am not complaining about the job Joe has done, but he deserves criticism where warranted.
Dave, I think Matsui is getting used to not being an everyday player. He sat for all those interleague games and came back strong, maybe he just needs more days off than we know.
Laughably bad trade for the Mets. Minaya is such a dope hahahaha
The Braves have got to be thrilled with this deal, Francouer has been one of the worst position players in the majors the past few years.
Nephew watch….
Just hit another RBI double in his first AB. Now has 8 RBI in 8 games and his hitting .407 as a pro.
Betsy,
Wouldn’t have been my move but, I’m glad Melancon is getting another shot.
Hopefully, Robertson gets it together. He’s getting another shot to attone for yesterday.
If he can’t, he will be the next guy to go back to Scranton.
If Melancon pitches well from the bullpen would the yanks keep Aceves as the number 5 starter until Wang gets back. It doesn’t make much sense to bring up a highly regarded prospect in Mark Melancon just for a couple of days.
Patrick,
I agree. That’s a trade that makes no sense to me. I wonder if Frank Wren (Braves GM) chartered a jet to get Jeff to NY before Omar changed his mind?
Betsy,
It tells me that Cody Ransom is the 25th guy on the team and they want to turn Ramiro Pena into something more than just being a part-time player.
That’s all this it is.
“Dave, I think Matsui is getting used to not being an everyday player. He sat for all those interleague games and came back strong, maybe he just needs more days off than we know.”
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I guess so. He’ll also have 4 days off next week too though.
If Girardi is simply giving him another day off because it’s a lefty pitching, that’s a mistake IMO.
I have all the faith in the world the Yanks will still win… but it’s just not the way I would have done it (with the information available to us fans).
You don’t need to remind me that Girardi knows more than I do.
dennis-Costanza
July 10th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
GB7.
Hey. Amy tracked your photo and they said it was a wrong address. She double checked your email on her web site and it was the same one you provided. Please check your email as she sent you the tracking # a few hours ago. It is currently in a Savannah fed ex facility.
Thanks!
-dennis
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Good evening, Dennis. I’ll check the email and call the company and give them simple directions. after leaving Svannah, they have to make 3 turns. Even Domino’s can find this place. Once again, my thanks and best wishes to you and Amy. sorry about your team collapsing. Can’t help with a “best wishes” on that.
For the sad news/good news, I’m going to be a great grandfather of twins. I’m scared. My granddaughter might find me and want me to babysit.
SJ, Book your ticket to Pittsburg for September 2011, as Tony will be making his MLB debut….He’s already worn out the Sally league, time to move him up a notch……
“Nephew watch….
Just hit another RBI double in his first AB. Now has 8 RBI in 8 games and his hitting .407 as a pro.’
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There’s only room for one Sanchez in Pittsburgh.
I guess Freddy has got to go
Does anyone else think Ryan Church would be a great fit on the Yanks? Solid defensively, good arm, and a pretty swing with lots of potential that has yet to be tapped into. His skill set and early career path is awfully similar to Paul O’Neill’s and I think he’d be a great fit in NYS and for the Yanks.
“If Melancon pitches well from the bullpen would the yanks keep Aceves as the number 5 starter until Wang gets back. It doesn’t make much sense to bring up a highly regarded prospect in Mark Melancon just for a couple of days.”
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I don’t think they need a #5 starter for a while.
I guess it really depends on how long Wang will be out. If we’re talking 1-2 more starts, I’d personally rather give Mitre a shot.
If it’s longer than that, I would think you’re right. It’s Aceves.
Gb7.
Thanks. Ahh, that explains why fed ex can not find you.
Congrats!
-dennis
Any word on Demaso Marte?
And yes, I’m being serious.
After seeing that lineup, I give us around a 5% chance to win today’s game
Joba on the mound = 5 innings at best, 100 pitches,
Ransom in the field – 2-3 unearned runs guaranteed
Cooked bullpen with only Melancon, Bruney, and Tomko fresh and Hughes/Coke probably unavailable.
And now a weak offensive club as well.
Not looking good.
GB7-
Congrats & Mazel Tov!
It’s too bad that Ransom is the backup shortstop instead of Pena — a much better fielder, better base-runner, and, so far this year, has even been a better hitter. (small sample sizes, granted.)
It’s not easy to see how it does the Yanks any good if Pena learns to play the outfield. Too many better hitters would be used in the outfield before him. The only theory I can come up with is that if Melky or Gardner were traded or injured, the Yanks might hope to use Pena as the backup CF.
Why in god’s name would we even play a guy like Ransom, let alone carry him on the roster?
Even Angel Berroa performed better than Ransom has done this year.
aww, congrats GB – that’s wonderful. As my father says, the good thing about being a grandfather (and he should know, he’s got 10 grandkids) is that you get them during their good moments and then you give them back to their parents, where the parents can deal with the crying, etc……
Oatmeal,
though a bit on the pessimistic side, it does highlight the need for Joba to get them some innings tonight.
Otherwise it’s prob Tomko.
Matsui had a week off except for a PH stint here and there and came back on fire. Maybe the Yanks know the knees may benefit from a few days off in a row and add in Saunders and it’s probably an easier decision than some think.
Someone wrote earlier that Joba will be fine, he just can’t pitch in Yankee Stadium. If that’s true, trade him now because the Yankees aren’t moving.
“Does anyone else think Ryan Church would be a great fit on the Yanks? Solid defensively, good arm, and a pretty swing with lots of potential that has yet to be tapped into. His skill set and early career path is awfully similar to Paul O’Neill’s and I think he’d be a great fit in NYS and for the Yanks.”
no…he hits for decent average…doesnt walk much and has no power…i prefer swisher over him for sure
Also, Aceves is more than likely heading back to the pen after the ASB. The NY Post is reporting the Yankees are going to watch Sergio Mitre on Sunday. If all goes well, he’ll be in the rotation after the break til Wang can come back.
“As my father says, the good thing about being a grandfather”
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does that apply to great grandfathers?
Congrats GB!
I guess MM was pitching well enough in AAA to warrant a call-up – I hope he can help us. How many innings can he go, two? Who’s available for tonight?
I like Alby (not that he’s great or close to, mind you) and I think he’s more reliable than Robertson. I just don’t get the move……I hope we get to see Alby again.
“After seeing that lineup, I give us around a 5% chance to win today’s game
Joba on the mound = 5 innings at best, 100 pitches,
Ransom in the field – 2-3 unearned runs guaranteed
Cooked bullpen with only Melancon, Bruney, and Tomko fresh and Hughes/Coke probably unavailable.
And now a weak offensive club as well.
Not looking good.”
wow you are a joke…go back to your red sox blog
Dave, he knows more than I do as well…
The only explanation I have is that Girardi doesn’t want him playing day games after night games so it was either play him tonight or tomorrow afternoon. I would think a matchup against a side arming right hander like Weaver is a place where he definitely has to play, that’s probably the same reason Molina is catching tonight.
“Aceves is more than likely heading back to the pen after the ASB. The NY Post is reporting the Yankees are going to watch Sergio Mitre on Sunday. If all goes well, he’ll be in the rotation after the break til Wang can come back.”
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thanks for that update.
I hope that means they don’t think Wang will be out for a very long time.
I don’t expect them to rush Wang back, but perhaps Aceves would be the better long term option. So if they do go to Mitre, maybe that means it won’t be too long for Wang.
LOL I would assume, but my father isn’t old enough to have great-grandchildren. GB apparently is, though…..sorry, GB!
GB
LOL.
Congratulations!
Tell your granddaughter to check your babysitting references on the LoHud Yankees blog. That should change her mind.
For the sad news/good news, I’m going to be a great grandfather of twins. I’m scared. My granddaughter might find me and want me to babysit.
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Aw! Many congrats GB7!!
“The only explanation I have is that Girardi doesn’t want him playing day games after night games so it was either play him tonight or tomorrow afternoon.”
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hmmm, very good point.
I forgot tomorrow was an earlier game.
Double Congrats GB7!
GB
Twins! Congratulations.
We may need to change your name from GB to GG (great grandad).
Congrats GB7!
dennis-Costanza
July 10th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Gb7.
Thanks. Ahh, that explains why fed ex can not find you.
Congrats!
-dennis
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These people have a GPS, but, it’s a quick call and it should be delivered by game time tomorrow. thanks for the congrats, Dennis.
Are there a lot of people here that are on Twitter? Just curious, as its a tremendous source of realtime Yankee/baseball info.
Thats how I learned that Mitre is probably going into the rotation after the ASB
“Would you rather have this lineup or whatever the Mets are throwing out tonight?”
I agree that there is too much whining over the lineup, but this is truly bad logic. Nobody would take the Mets’ lineup. That doesn’t mean a manager should deliberately reduce the team’s chances of winning. (In a vacuum; like I said, the lineup is fine for one day.)
I guess it’s impressive… but Jon Lester is missing with his slider by a mile and the Royals are still swinging at them.
Callaspo just K’s with a man on 3rd on a slider that bounced a foot or so in front of the plate and his own feet.
This lineup is atrocious!!!
And just so nobody accuses me of bias, I typed that before looking at the lineup.
:pause:
Hmmm, I’ve seen better, but it all makes sense.
The thing about DHing Jeter (or giving him a full day off) is that no one ever wants to do it on the day of any specific game yet almost everyone would agree that over the course of the 162-game season, it has to be done. So once in a while you just have to take your medicine and give the guy a day off, or half-day off as the case may be.
What it means tonight is Cody Ransom instead of Posada (or Matsui, if you prefer). Presumably Mr. Girardi has his reasons. Maybe Ransom has good numbers against Saunders… or bad numbers against the rest of them.
Joba can make it all good.
Thank ya’ll for the congratulations. I’ll be at the hospital when they’re born, and ten I’m running away from home. I pity my granddaughter though, it’s her first babies and she’s small. Twins wouldn’t have been a first choice. She looks like she swallowed a Volkswagen.
Eckersely and his bee-gees outfit needs to be taken off the air. I cant stand listening to that idiot.
Thanks to Alby for helping out. I like him.
lol @ the Buchholz story. That’s really mean of me, but I don’t feel bad for him. Don’t know why.
I understand they want Pena to learn to play the outfield so he can be a super utility guy. That’s going to be a real asset to have a speedy guy that can play very good defense at 2nd, SS, 3rd, and the OF.
My question is, why can’t he work on it in the offseason?
this Buchholz story?
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009.....ste-1.html
I don’t get it. Why does Jeter need a break?
pat
July 10th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
GB
Twins! Congratulations.
We may need to change your name from GB to GG (great grandad).
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You may need to change that to The Late, Great GG. The first time I have to watch them and they both need fed and other baby type things, I’m dead. I can handle blood, bone and missing parts, but, I draw the line at things like diapers.
Well, enough of my complaining. On a positive note, ALL of the Yankee free agent signings have been terrific. Yankee fans are so used to big ticket FAs coming to NY and shrinking from the limelight. Not so with these guys. Tex got off to a worse than Tino-for-Mattingly start, but he didn’t sulk, whine or go into a personality funk. He stayed the course, got ridiculously hot and has been unbelievable in the field. He is streaky – since his torrid stretch, he’s not been that great offensively – but obviously he’s been a great pickup.
CC’s been a horse and I don’t even think we’ve seen him at his best. He’s also obviously a wonderful teammate. If we can save his arm, I’ve no doubt he will come up big for us down the stretch and in the playoffs (if we make it).
AJ has been very good as well. He’s given us innings, remained healthy and has shown he can compete without his best stuff. When he’s on, he’s really on……As important, he’s handled NY just fine, showing the maturity that we’d heard about. He’s been a mentor to the kids and brought back some light-heartedness to the clubhouse with the pie routine.
My question is, why can’t he work on it in the offseason?
They may need him this year – ya never know
The Pretender by Jackson Browne is top 10 tunes for me. Excellent!
Congrats, GB7. I’m scared to read the babysitting stories…
Wait, if the case of Coors Light is in the stroller… where are the babies?????
“On a positive note, ALL of the Yankee free agent signings have been terrific.”
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Marte?
I still am hopeful he’ll be an asset.
Why doesn’t anyone consider that maybe Joe has a clue what he is doing sitting his players?
Too bad those guys did not steal Joba’s tires on a certain eve last year. That would have been fortuitous…
-dennis
“Why doesn’t anyone consider that maybe Joe has a clue what he is doing sitting his players?”
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he probably does.
that doesn’t mean there won’t be peculiar lineups that aren’t as obvious as others.
Matsui’s knees might be bothering him after playing on the astroturf. The point is, we really don’t know what’s going on with the players. Girardi does.
Do any of you guys have any idea as to when the outer portions of old Yankee Stadium are going to start coming down?
I’m not going to be heading to a game at the new stadium until the Labor Day game vs. Tampa, and I was hoping the old stadium would still be there so I could give it one last farewell.
Brian Bannister would look real nice in Pinstripes….Too think we spotted the BoSox 8 games and are even up with them…They might start feeling it just a tad…..On my way up to The Big A ( West Coast version ) to watch Mr. Chamberlain turn around his season……This must occur as the Yanks are using their # 8 pitcher ( Aceves ) on the depth chart as a 5…..Joba be good tonight….
Nick in SF
July 10th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Congrats, GB7. I’m scared to read the babysitting stories…
Wait, if the case of Coors Light is in the stroller… where are the babies?????
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I figure if I put the babies on top of the beer, the beer will be safe from the guys I hang around with. They’re as afraid of babies as I am.
On the other hand, they’re like puppies…babies do tend to draw the chickies. My luck, though, the chickies will be hens.
I doubt that Ransom has numbers against any AL pitcher that is significant, most of his career has been in the minors (less than 200 major league at bats total before this year). Joba is mostly a fly ball pitcher, I doubt that many balls will be hit to shortstop tonight. But, for the record, Ransom only made 3 errors with the Yankees in 35 games at all the infield positions last year and only 11 errors in 115 games at Scranton.
In the old days, Casey Stengel used to pull some very strange lineups out sometimes also but it didn’t stop the Yankees from winning most of the time.
more b*tching here then a shopping spree, baby shower, and ladie’s garden club, all put together
+17 over .500
Here is the way I look at any lineups these days….
Whoever is in it, help the team win. No stats, excuses, or any other BS. Do your share to help the team win.
That’s what good teams do and the Yankees are a good team.
Ransom made a bad error yesterday. He also drove in 2 runs so, he was +1 for the day. All you can ask of a backup.
Whomever is in the lineup, play hard and help the team win. Dassit.
GB,
Congrats! Twins? Double the gifts you have to buy during a recession.
Man, nobody thinks of you in all this? lol
“Too bad those guys did not steal Joba’s tires on a certain eve last year. That would have been fortuitous…
-dennis”
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they were busy burying a David Ortiz jersey as a curse for the new Yankee Stadium.
234 HR later (and a slow start for Papi), I’m glad they dug that thing up
Halladay trade option:
Say for instance that the Redsox offer a package starting with Bucholz? Do you think the Yanks would stand still or have to get into the game? I think until that happens then its gonna be a cat/mouse game. Not that Toronto wants him in the AL, but with the $$ and prospects the Yanks/Sox have that the Jays may overlook the Al East thing.
GB
LMAO
Dennis
be nice, or GB will get you.
BD, if Marte ever gets healthy, I think he could be a real help to the pen……
“Say for instance that the Redsox offer a package starting with Bucholz? Do you think the Yanks would stand still or have to get into the game?”
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I think Boston will do that and the Yanks would have been in the game either way.
Pat M: have a great time, we’ll be looking for you on TV.
If you can spare one of your free tickets for the Monday night game, I might be persuaded to drive down…
Pat M,
You know what’s scary? Three games….Mo blowing the save in Fenway, AJ blowing a 6 run lead in the 5th inning at Fenway, and CC’s start where the bullpen couldn’t hold a 3-1 lead, are all that’s standing between being tied and having a SIX game lead in the division.
If the above happened, they would still be 3-5 against the Sox this year.
0-8 and tied for first? If you are Boston, that’s something to worry about, IMO.
Ugh, i guess there’s nobody else to give jeter a day at shortstop. Given ransom’s troubles at the hot corner, why not give hinske a start at third next time A-rod has his turn at DH? I’d rather have his bat in the line up (especially against righties) and roll the dice with his defense. It seems like ransom isn’t a sure thing in the field anyway.
Jackson is 1-2.
Cashman went public praising Ransom’s defense. He also took him to a charity event and had his picture taken with him.
Cashman went public praising Robertson as pitching “fantastic” right about the time Veras was released.
Cashman went public praising Tomko at the time he was brought up, saying he would play a big role.
Cashman went public saying the lineup is better when Swisher plays.
Unless and until Girardi wins a WS, he does not have the clout to buck Cashman and he is smart enough to know it.
The most important person on the field tonight is Joba – he doesn’t have to be great, but he just can’t give us another short outing again – the pen is short. I don’t even knwo who’s available…..still think Aceves belongs there (even though SJ makes compelling points for him as a starter) for several reasons. Oh well – the fact is, we’ve got Tomko, Robertson and Melancon available tonight. Coke isn’t, nor is Phil – is Mo ? I think he’s pitched 3 games in a row….
Dave.
Just trying to make a point when everyone points to good vs evil.
George Will. “Love what they do not who they are”..
-dennis
amazing, how Minaya continues to get a free pass.
it must pay, to be good looking and latin
Betsy,
I agree. Joba has to be solid tonight. Throw strikes, be efficient, and go 6 strong innings at least.
In regard to Aceves, not sure if you saw my earlier post, but it appears as if hes headed back to the pen after the break. The NY Post is reporting that Yankees brass is going to watch Sergio Mitre on Sunday. If all goes well, he’ll be in the rotation after the ASB until Wang comes back.
Boston is in a tough spot. They don’t have enough, close to the majors depth to make 2 big deals.
They need a hitter more than Halladay.
They know Buchholz would have to go in a Halladay deal. They can get a hitter without giving up Buchholz.
Also, their 3-4-5 starters in the rotation are Wakefield, Smoltz and Penny.
One guy is 42, has a bad back, and always struggles in the second half. The other guy is 42, has had 5 elbow and 1 shoulder surgery, and Brad Penny is Brad Penny.
They are kind of boxed in here. That’s why I think they will be hard pressed to even play rope a dope with the Jays in this thing to tweak the Yankees.
GB twins are so much fun. My cousin has identical twin boys. I love them to pieces. I also love watching them play with each other. When they were about 2 they would fight with each other. We’d let them, keep an eye to make sure they didn’t get into it too bad.
Now they are always holding each others hands. it is so cute to watch.
Cashman also went to Derek Jeter and Jorge Posada’s charity dinners and has spoken admiringly of both men and their dedication to their charities and foundations.
Your point?
If the yankees get Brian Bruney going again. Get Bruney to pitch like he was before he went on the DL. With Mo, Hughes, Bruney, Coke, Aceves, Robertson the yanks will have the best bullpen in baseball. Red sox had the advantage early in the year in the bullpen but the sox dont have that anymore.
The yanks bullpen could use a second lefty though.
“They know Buchholz would have to go in a Halladay deal. They can get a hitter without giving up Buchholz.”
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I’m not sure about that.
There will be enough hitters available that they can give up guys such as Delcarmen, Penny, Bowden, Anderson, etc if they want to pursue a decent bat (especially if it’s also partially a salary dump).
It might not be Matt Holliday, but they can get a decent lower tier guy with what they have.
Boogie Down, I hope that’s true. I don’t expect much of Mitre, but he just has to be servicable….if he can be that, I would take it and run.
SJ-
I agree. They have one deal with their prospects. Bowden is not bringing anything IMO.
-dennis
Hallady, CC and AJ as our top 3 would be devastating.. Not sure what players go north, but bottomline is that you have Halladay in a tough AL East on your side. I’m torn because Hughes/Joba will be the centerpiece of a trade and not sure which i’d rather keep. Joba I haven’t seen the SP yet. Joba the RP was awesome until a shoulder injury. Hughes I know was close to a No-no and I think we can say has the tools to do either SP or a closer. If it was me i’d send Joba (only because he is stubborn and hasn’t harnessed his stuff), AJAX to start with.. fill in the blanks?
In the playoffs, when it matter most, the Yankees will most likely also have Joba in the bullpen, that’s something the Sox can’t match. After Beckett and Lester their starting pitching is really, really questionable, even with Wakefield having a career year. Do any of us fear a playoff game at either new Yankees Stadium or Fenway with Wakefield the starting pitcher?
“Also, their 3-4-5 starters in the rotation are Wakefield, Smoltz and Penny.”
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that’s why I believe that either Halladay or Buchholz (or someone else new) will be pitching for Boston fairly soon.
I think it would be a good move for them to offer Buccholz and Delcarmen or one of their position player prospects for Halladay.
If someone else gets him, oh well.
But they prob know they need an upgrade in the rotation.
jennifer
July 10th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
GB twins are so much fun. My cousin has identical twin boys. I love them to pieces. I also love watching them play with each other. When they were about 2 they would fight with each other. We’d let them, keep an eye to make sure they didn’t get into it too bad. Now they are always holding each others hands. it is so cute to watch.
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Jennifer, I know that you’re wanting to make me feel great and look foreward to this, but…..
Did you ever have a feeling of impending doom?
Anyone surprised that Albie was the one sent down? He was the last one called up, but I don’t think he’s been the worst pitcher in the pen.
“it must pay, to be good looking and latin”
heh, tell that to alex lol
what’s so special about Bucholz? Here are his recent stats, they aren’t even close to the ones Hughes put up in AAA earlier this year:
Jun 17 CHA 1 0 4.50 0 4.0 2 2 2 6
Jun 22 @DUR 0 1 2.45 0 3.2 4 1 5 4
Jun 27 SYR 0 0 1.50 0 6.0 4 1 2 6
Jul 02 SWB 1 0 3.86 0 7.0 5 3 1 7
Jul 07 @LHV 1 0 3.00 0 6.0 4 2 4 4
“Hallady, CC and AJ as our top 3 would be devastating.”
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you can say that again.
arguably 2 of the best 5 starters in all of baseball plus when AJ is on a roll he’s probably top 10.
SJ, it makes perfect sense for Cashman to associate himself with the pillars of the franchise in public. When there is a serious question whether a player should be on the roster, as there is with Ransom, it makes me uneasy. Particularly in combination with the unsupportable statement about Ransom’s 3B defense.
That Ransom is still on the team is inexcusable.
GB it will be fine. Do you know what she is having? I still can’t tell the difference between the boys they look so much a like. When the two of them come running up to you to say hello your heart will melt.
Some Japanese papers have reported that Matsui’s knees aren’t so good these days, though he can play if he wants to.
tak- interesting that could be why joe is giving him so many days off.
well, I guess as long as Ransom is playing no one will complain about Georgie’s catching, Cano’s lack of hitting with RISP, or Damon’s arm strength and overall resemblance to Hector Lopez in left field this year.
“what’s so special about Bucholz?”
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if he hadn’t thrown a no-hitter against a somewhat depleted Baltimore team, I wonder how different it would be.
(I do think he’ll be good though)
Ok Royals, time to tag Lester for a few runs this inning.
im not liking the trend of people wanting to choose joba to trade over hughes simply because joba is “stubborn” or “cocky”….toronto is going to want the player they think is more talented and therefore more valuable to the team…there not gonna pick the nicer more humble player….if they think hughes is better, they want hughes, if they think joba is better, they pick joba…fans should feel the same way…
ive always loved (in a baseball sense
joba since he came up, so much so that i have a shirt, jersey and signed baseball card of him…im not happy about his stubborness or what not but unless he is hurt and not saying anything, the undeniable talent lies somewhere in that right arm..we cant just toss this guy aside like he is some easily replaceable darrel rasner…
both joba and hughes should be valuable players to this team for a long time….if they arent traded
You ready to change some diapers GB7?
Twins mean double the fun
jennifer
July 10th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
GB it will be fine. Do you know what she is having? I still can’t tell the difference between the boys they look so much a like. When the two of them come running up to you to say hello your heart will melt.
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yeah, Jennifer a boy and a girl. She wants to name the boy after me, but, I just don’t think a kid needs to grow up being called “Grandpa”.
plus, Buchholz is 7-1 with a 2.11 ERA, less than a 1.00 WHIP
I think he’s 2 years older than Hughes though.
Dave, I think his 2-9 record and over 6 ERA last year didn’t do much to endear him with Sox fans.
Royals just picked up Yuniesky Betancourt
Pena brought great defense. There is nothing Cody Ransom brings that is great. I rather have a bench player that plays great defense and who did not embarass himself at the plate like Pena did. Eric Hinskie is the hitter off the bench that has pop. Ransom does not hit and plays bad defense he has no value on the team. I still can believe that Cashman went on WFAN with Francesa and said Ransom is better defensively at third than A-Rod.
S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC
July 10th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
You ready to change some diapers GB7?
Twins mean double the fun
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I’ve got it all planned out, S.A. I’ll just call in the Georgia National Guard Chemical Warfare team.
gb- At least you’ll be able to tell them apart. I can’t wait till the boys figure out they can fool people. That will be fun.
“Dave, I think his 2-9 record and over 6 ERA last year didn’t do much to endear him with Sox fans.”
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nope
and when Hughes struggled, he was a bust.
when Buchholz struggled, despite being 2 years older, it was just because he was rushed to the majors (I think that was the excuse – which was accepted by most)
jennifer
July 10th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
gb- At least you’ll be able to tell them apart. I can’t wait till the boys figure out they can fool people. That will be fun.
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I have nothing but pity for teachers of twins.
“Royals just picked up Yuniesky Betancourt”
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seriously?
I like that pickup for them.
not sure why Seattle would be dumping starters right now.
Jennifer, have they figured out that they look alike, yet?
I guess Kansas City gave up one of their top pitching prospects to get him.
I’ve got it all planned out, S.A. I’ll just call in the Georgia National Guard Chemical Warfare team.
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Get a Hazmat suit just in case they are unable to come and assist you.
gb- yeah they are 6. it is funny if you call them by the wrong name they get mad. I’m not NICK I’M JOE!! Can’t say that I blame them.
Per Rotoworld:
Royals acquired SS Yuniesky Betancourt from the Mariners for RHP Daniel Cortes and LHP Derrick Saito.
The Royals have only wanted Betancourt for 2 1/2 years now. Unfortunately, they still couldn’t get him for free. Cortes has seen his stock drop with his walk rate increasing, but he still ranked as perhaps the Royals’ top pitching prospect. Saito is a potential lefty specialist. Neither will help the Mariners this year, but Seattle was just ready to move on. Betancourt figures to take over as the Royals’ everyday shortstop following the break. He had been on a rehab assignment as he works his way back from a strained hamstring
Dave, you’re right although I never did that, I’ve always thought Hughes was star material.
I guess the Royals couldn’t stomach watching Tony Pena, Jr. swing a bat anymore.
Dave,
He may be the worst everyday player in baseball. He’s a butcher in the field, about 20 pounds overweight and makes Robbie Cano look like Nick Swisher in terms of plate discipline.
He’s an awful player. Which is why Seattle got rid of him.
Mike Jacobs and Betancourt are probably the two worst everyday infielders at their positions in the league.
That’s now how the Royals starting infield.
Not good.
Jennifer,
maybe Girardi and Cashman are being cautious. It’s a looong season. Plus, Jeter needs a day off. I hope Matsui’s bat won’t get cold.
KC gave up one kid who has a great arm and a real bad attitude. He has more upside than Yuni, which makes it odd they would just cut bait with the kid.
That’s a strange deal all around.
GB
Since they are her first babies, say “oops” a few times right after they are born when you hold them. That should buy you off babysitting duty until after they are potty trained.
GB, first, congrats on your upcoming great grandfatherhood, it is truly something work celebrating.
Second, what the Royals got sick of was not watching Tony Pena swing the bat, it was watching him never hit anything with said swings that went right to the pits of their collective stomachs.
Yankees/ Angels game from May on YES right now – the game in which they led 4-0, then came back from 5 down. Was that the Posada walk off? In any case, it’s one of the games that, early on, defined the never-say-die attitude of this team
jennifer
July 10th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
gb- yeah they are 6. it is funny if you call them by the wrong name they get mad. I’m not NICK I’M JOE!! Can’t say that I blame them.
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I’d get mad if somebody “Nick”, too. Of course, being called “Joe” wouldn’t make me any happier.
always hated the name that my parents hung on me, even though I loved my grandfather. Meisha is just not a name you give a kid, then send him out to play and don’t get into a fight.
Hi everyone-
I am trying to get myself excited for this late night game.
I promise to be extra random and hilarious to keep everyone entertained
BD, did you read what Keith Law had to say about Phil yesterday? He really doesn’t like him – basically said he’s shown nothing as a starter this year. I thought maybe he would have had the cojones to admit that maybe he was wrong (like so many other scouts/experts are doing), but he seems to be very intransigent when it comes to Phil. When Clay was struggling, we didn’t hear one word from him…….then again, he thinks CB is a future stud and Phil at best a #3 or 4
Rebecca-
Its been 7 years since I graduated college. In 4 years I never went to sleep before 4am and “sleep is for weenies” was my motto.
How the mighty have fallen…
pat
July 10th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
GB
Since they are her first babies, say “oops” a few times right after they are born when you hold them. That should buy you off babysitting duty until after they are potty trained.
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Yeah, but, what if she pulls that old “Possession is 90% of the law” stuff? Then, I’m really in trouble. Theses kids don’t come with warning tags and instructions.
GB7
Believe it or not after the first year twins spend most of their time playing with each other so they spend less time bugging mom and dad.
Bannister set to implode in 3-2..
“Remember Torre with Miguel Cairo? Andy Phillips?”
Andy Phillips was so hot. I always cheered when he was in the lineup
MG
July 10th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
GB, first, congrats on your upcoming great grandfatherhood, it is truly something work celebrating.
Second, what the Royals got sick of was not watching Tony Pena swing the bat, it was watching him never hit anything with said swings that went right to the pits of their collective stomachs.
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Thanks for the congrats, MG. If Pena had hit at least as well as his father, with that glove, he’d be Ozzie smith.
“He’s an awful player. Which is why Seattle got rid of him.”
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hmmm, I guess I’m wrong about him.
I always thought he had a really good glove and an average bat.
Yes! Ellsbury tossed from the game!
`WHAT A THING OF ABSOLUTE BEAUTY!
A little too quick there RConn…
Hahaha, Francona couldnt even get thrown out either!
Congratulations GB7!!!
“I am trying to get myself excited for this late night game.”
Really. this blog is getting better all the time.
Ellsbury tossed. Bannister escapes.
“Yes! Ellsbury tossed from the game!”
Buh-bye loser!
I wish Eckersly would shut up.
The KC Royals – great American heroes!!!!!
whew
bannister gets out of trouble
VT Yankeefan
July 10th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
GB7
Believe it or not after the first year twins spend most of their time playing with each other so they spend less time bugging mom and dad.
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It’s that first year that bothers me. And, I’m not worried about them bothering their mom and dad. It’s me that I’m worried about. I haven’t been around kids of any size very much for almost 30 years.
Nephew watch…..
Second AB, he gets drilled after the hitter before him hit a HR…..
Takes a few steps toward the mound and the benches empty.
No punches, order is restored.
Third AB…..Hits his first pro HR off the pitcher who drilled him. 3 run shot to give WVA a 10-3 lead.
He’s now hitting .428 with 11 RBI in his first 8 games as a pro.
That’s one way to answer getting drilled!
Too bad he was really safe.
Congrats, GB7.
Are these the first great-grandkids?
Why was Elsberry tossed?
Erica, don’t kick yourself. A lot has to do with bodyclock. It’s been a lot more than 7 years since I graduated college and I don’t go to bed before 2 or 3 in the morning ever.
Thank you very much, Erica. If you have any horror stories, please wait until I get over this shock.
“I am trying to get myself excited for this late night game.
I promise to be extra random and hilarious to keep everyone entertained.”
you got me excited now…but i was already
Awesome stuff regarding your nephew SJ44. Well, except the getting drilled part.
He was safe, but somehow I don’t feel bad at all:)
GB7-
You will be fine. My mom was a twin. My grandmother was a sickly woman who couldn’t see straight half the time. If my mother and aunt could survive childhood, anyone could do it!!!!
ajax just hit an eassssy triple off the tope of a 16 foot wall…oh wth they saying fan interference and want to put him on 2nd!
SA,
It hit in him the butt. He has a lot of padding there! lol
SJ,
Great story – and I’m so happy Tony’s doing so well. Do you expect him to come down to earth, or has he really got the Sally league figured out already?
“Why was Elsberry tossed?”
He threw his helmet because he was having a little hissy fit because he was thrown out at home. I guess that’s an automatic. Meantime, even if the little crybaby was safe – and I don’t know that he was – lots of people have been the subject of bad calls. I guess Ellsbury feels that running like the wind is his birthright and everyone should know he is just the quickest thing since the NYC minute.
If you’d like to see a replay, feel free to turn to NESN. They will talk about it for the next flippin hour!
Just saying hello from a Northern California based-Yankee fan who watches the games on YES. Nice to have you guys on our time zone for a change! Go Yankees!
It hit in him the butt. He has a lot of padding there! lol
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LOL
well they keeping it a triple…announcer says it should be a fan interference double tho…cool for ajax
2 for 3 with a triple for A-Jax
Trisha-
I think my staying up late problems are now due to the fact that I only slept about 4 hours a night for those 4 years.
Now if I get anything less than 7 you really don’t want to know me the next morning
Clare
July 10th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Congrats, GB7.
Are these the first great-grandkids?
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Thank you very much, Clare. Much appreciated. Yes, this is my first time in front of the executioners. The good thing is that she’ll make a great mother. She loves little kids. She’s been working in a day care for years just to watch them and teach them. I think she shows strong masocistic tendencies.
Clare,
My heart tells me I hope he stays on cloud 9 the rest of the year. My head tells me sooner or later he will come down to earth! lol
I’m hoping he does real well the rest of the summer. If he does, there is a chance he could start next year in AA.
He’s really swinging the bat well. He just missed a HR last night and even his outs have been smoked.
He’ doing great though and he’s become really popular with the girls……The 8 year old girls! lol
Several of them line up every night after the game waiting for him to sign autographs. Its really funny!
Yikes, Ransom at SS.
Oh forgot to mention I was born in Brooklyn, grew up on Long Island and am a third generation fan whose lived out here for most of her life. I take a lot of heat from the Giants, A’s and Red Sox fans out here. So be it.
Pam B July 10th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Just saying hello from a Northern California based-Yankee fan who watches the games on YES. Nice to have you guys on our time zone for a change! Go Yankees!
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Hello!
Best wishes to GB!!!
And SJ’s nephews rear end.
The Mets are getting desperate. They gave every fan entering the stadium tonight a bag of Wise potato chips. At the end of the second inning everyone crunched at the same time setting a record for the Guiness Book of World Records.
GB7 – congratulations.
Hi Pam
The Ladies of Lohud I’m sure will make you feel welcome.
WB,
I feel worse for the ball than his butt. The ball may have died an honorable death hitting that brick wall.
Hi Pam.
SJ44,
That’s great – and it doesn’t at all surprise me he’s a hit with the girls
Have you seen the CC and Santana Subway commercial? Every time I see it I think about your nephew. I think he mentioned Subway in every article I read around the draft.
Sj,
Sounds like the 2nd ball got the worst end of the deal!!
Montero is now 1-3 with a walk. no strikeouts. 1 GIDP one runner stole a base.
Bleich had zeo control. 6 innings, 4 hits, 4 runs (all earned), 4 walks, 6 strikeouts.
David Ortiz: 0-3, 3 strikeouts. Yeah, he’s “back”
Pam B, I’m in Menlo Park, CA. Where are you?
Clare,
He wants a Subway deal so bad! lol
I have a meeting in NY with them on him and a couple of other things. Who knows, maybe something comes of it.
He keeps eating it everyday though. His roommates are begging for a change in cuisine for one day! lol
Yo Ralphie-
Incoming on facebook
thank you for the congrats, william and Fran. Much appreciated. I’ll be passing out cyber-cigars on the day of the blasted….err….blessed event. Bubble gum cigars, of course for you non-smokers.
So the NY Post says Alex and Bob Costas took their ladies on a double date.
They live in the same building and I was imagining it might be an awkward encounter first they saw each other at the elevator.
Considering Alex gave MLB Network their first 2 months of programming, I hope the network picked up the tab and they ordered a nice bottle of wine.
I am really disappointed Tex opted out of the homerun derby. I am so tired of rooting for players on other teams
Not a fan of Boston’s gimmick hats.
Also, Brian Bannister is NOT a great pitcher, but listening to the BoSox announcers, you’d think he’s coming off back-to-back Cy Young awards.
Congrats to the GGGGFGB7!
Welcome, Pam. Did you just find us? We’ve been calling for someone to come and let us out for years now.
Two on, none out versus Lester. Gotta strike now.
Pat,
They have been friends for a long time. Well over 10 years now.
Pam B: I know what you mean about taking heat from Giants and A’s fans around here, but I’d rather take heat from them than be one of them.
Hey SJ,
Just curious, do you know where Chris Smith from last years draft is? I took a liking to him cuz he seemed like a long shot but he had a chance with his tools. Any info would be solid on him, I know he was having just a little bit of a rough time in 08 haha.
I no longer live in NorCal (unfortunately) but spent almost 20 years there, including 2 years in SF about 5 blocks from PacBell Park-I’ve always been a Yankees fan, though…
Thank you very much for the congrats, Mel
grrr. 1st & 2nd, zero outs –> zero runs
SJ44,
I wish you luck with Subway.
How’s Tony liking being a pro so far? Is it what he expected?
i accepted erica…
Terrible job by Royals. Runners on first and second, Teahan gets thrown out trying to advance to second on a fly ball.
Then Buck grounds out on one pitch. That’s why they are the Royals.
Last I heard, Smith was in extended ST.
That was awhile ago though.
cervelli 1 for 3 with a ground rule double
Erica – always OPPC July 10th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I am really disappointed Tex opted out of the homerun derby. I am so tired of rooting for players on other teams
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Erica I’m not. Tex thought it would mess up his swing. That is why isn’t playing
pat,
That’s the least Bob could do.
Did you ever get any more details from your friend about her/his Yankees sighting? I can understand that you weren’t anxious to talk at 2 am – but any scoop about who was out, who they were with, what they were drinking, etc.? Inquiring (or pathetic) minds want to know.
blah, i hate west coast games, i feel like i’ve been waiting foreverr!
I wonder what it would be like to have Pedro Martinez on the team.
Clare,
He loves it. Loves the manager and coaching staff and told me the team has accepted him very well.
He’s loving every minute of it.
He understands its a business and this is his job now.
That said, he’s having the time of his life and is in a great frame of mind.
My only concern was him trying too hard out of the gate to justify the draft slot. That hasn’t happened, which is great.
Bannister pitching his tail off. Now at 97 pitches through 7.
If he didn’t have a AAA team hitting behind him, he might have gotten the win tonight.
I’d pay money for the first time Posada and Pedro hooked up in the locker room.
It would be baseball’s version of the UFC! lol
Sitting Matsui for the second night in a row is a horrible decision. What a stupid move.
I agree Nick. One A’s fan made my life miserable at the last Yankees A’s game I went to. It always feels so different when I am back in NYC, sister has partial season tickets, and am surrounded by the faithful. At least I come by it honestly.
Why the heck would the organization stretch out melancon? Girardi saying he can give them length and he threw 45 pitches in his last outing.
Pedro on this team?
We might get an actual fight under the O’Neill banner.
Pedro vs. Posada.
Remember that Red Sox troll that came on here last week predicting a 10-0 Sox homestand and they were going to “pull away” from the Yankees?
How’s that looking right now? They are 3-4 so far, needed a 7th inning comeback Sunday to keep from getting swept from the Mariners, and are 0-0 in the 8th tonight.
That kid is probably on suicide watch now.
Anyone watchin Pete?
“If he didn’t have a AAA team hitting behind him, he might have gotten the win tonight.”
Well it’s the same AAA team that beat the Suxers last night. So ya nevah know!
jennifer
July 10th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Erica – always OPPC July 10th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I am really disappointed Tex opted out of the homerun derby. I am so tired of rooting for players on other teams
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Erica I’m not. Tex thought it would mess up his swing. That is why isn’t playing
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Mess it up?? Maybe it would help him refind it..
Melancon has been pitching 2 innings in a lot of his appearances in Scranton. That’s probably his limit at the major league level.
A guy that can pitch more than one inning is an asset in the bullpen.
HI everyone, I am in Sonoma County in the wine country north of SF. This is almost like a twitter conversation! Hashtag #exiledyankeesfans or something. Going to run out to get dinner, be back later! This is the best Yankees blog I have found. Hang in there guys.
SJ.
Do you think Tony has any thoughts about graduating from BC at some point down the road?
Congrats on his success. I have heard from BC folks on campus he is a great kid/young adult.
“The Heights” are very proud of him.
-dennis
I go to dinner, I come back and Montero singles.
Life is good.
Having Pedro on the team would be like having Joba’s twin brother….. well I don’t know how that would work but oh well: Arrogant, Short outings, Lots of runs, Doesn’t particularly like to pitch to Jorge haha.
Ryan Church sounds FURIOUS about the trade
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
Of course when it comes to that team I am always into the drama aspect. I love RSN getting their hopes sky high only to have them dashed to hell! (Not you Dennis or Ray. But the rest!)
For instance, it would be sweet to have the score be 0-0 going into the 9th and have someone hit a 3-run homer off Papelcrow.
Or maybe a deja vu where Soria somehow allows the bases to be loaded and there are two out – nah forget that scenario. It would only be fun with Ellsbury still in the game, trying to come home, only to get thrown out for the final out!
On the other hand, if giving up the drama aspect means a sure win, let KC get the job done NOW!
“I go to dinner, I come back and Montero singles.
Life is good.”
did the ” I <3 MONTERO" shirt come in the mail yet?….i havent gone mine yet
dennis,
Are you from Maine? A friend of mine is looking for some recommendations for places near the water for a vacation. Any suggestions?
Thanks (and apologies if I’ve confused you with someone else).
Dennis,
Yes, he will get his degree from BC. As part of his deal with the Pirates, they are paying for his final 24 credits at BC. Room, board, tuition, books, the whole deal.
He wants to do it and so does his mother.
It will definitely happen down the road.
Nice phone interview Pete on ESPN.
Seems like the west coast game has brought a good mood to this thread… always good to see. Maybe all the winning helps too.
when does the girardi whining stop? All you have to do is look at Gardner/cabrera, both of whom would probably provide well-below average offense in CF, yet because of Girardi’s exceptional matchup/hot hand skills, the yankees have gotten well-above average production from CF this year. Then to the bullpen, where after an early-season bout with pen-wide ineffectiveness, the yanks now find themselves as well-set as any other team in the league, not just b/c of hughes, but because of how well Girardi has used coke and robertson (neither of whom would, i very strongly believe, have put up numbers half this good under inning-role lover joe torre), he has been able to get everyone in the pen consistent innings, top to bottom, and because he showed enough faith in aceves, whose stuff is not typical set-up stuff, to allow him to develop into a huge relief asset. Those are really the only major things that a manager has control over.
How well stars play is up to them – they aren’t going to be platooned by any manager, nor should they. As for the lineups, if the yankees win tonight, then girardi’s a genius for getting jeter and posada some rest without hurting the team. If they don’t win easily, they have a bench that consists of posada and matsui. How is that a bad thing?
Furthermore, enough complaining about cano hitting 5th. He has always shown the potential to develop into a middle of the order hitter, and girardi was trying to instigate that shift. Maybe he never becomes that hitter, but a .300 hitter who has decent power hitting behind a-rod’s .400+ OBP sounds like a good idea to me. Should he have abandoned it after it hadn’t panned out, yes. Did he do just that? YES. A week and a half is not enough time to see if a guy fits in a certain role. Cano’s RISP slump was getting so ridiculous that it was legitimately hurting the team’s chances to win every time he sent him out there by the end that Girardi had to eventually call it off, but personally i have no problem with his decision to try to put him in that spot, and by “try” i don’t mean “try for two nights and then call it off when his ONLY 2/3 hits come without runners on base,” i mean try until you have enough data to gauge whether or not it is working, unless it is not working to an anomalous extent. Do i agree with every single thing girardi does? no, i think he bunts a little too much for my liking, though only a little. other than that, though, there really aren’t any major flaws in his managing that can’t be easily disproven as such.
Dave,
Thanks for the heads up. You can tell that guy reads the blog. He knew exactly what’s been discussed here.
Pete,
Your best Q&A yet!
““I go to dinner, I come back and Montero singles.
Life is good.”
did the ” I <3 MONTERO" shirt come in the mail yet?….i havent gone mine yet"
No, but I'm thinking of customizing a Monstero jersey when he gets here!
Nephew watch….
4th AB of the game…..Smoked another double off the top of the wall in left. 3-3, 2 doubles, a walk, a 3 run HR and 4 RBI and the game is only in the 5th inning.
Now hitting .448.
I don’t understand why the Mets go for Franky. I can see how getting rid of Church could be a good thing, but here’s to hoping a bigger stadium sparks Franky’s bat…
Pete on ESPNews:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62506344d5e1525f/
So your nephew is a ball player SJ. Explains some things. But none the less that is very cool, you should be proud. Which you seem to be. Congrats to him and your family.
I guess the Yankees agreed with my assessment of Robertson vs Albaladejo
Alba did a good job but Robertson has been consistently better.
Hopefully Melancon can stick this time and do a good job. He has the stuff, makeup and control to make it happen.
SJ44, congrats on your nephew, sounds like they will definitely fast track him. Where do you think he’ll be this time next year? High A?
It’s definitely weird how much Ransom is playing in the field. I’m sick of that guy, he is not a major leaguer.
“Maybe all the winning helps too.”
SJ44: What is your sense of how to get Joba turned around? The stuff just hasn’t been consistent at all this year…is it your sense that this is all because of inconsistent mechanics or is it possible that the shoulder problem from last year means that this is what he’s going to be from here on out? Great news on your nephew, by the way.
Listening to Pete’s audio now. Loved the Halladay joke. LOL
Trisha.
As always, you are candid and I respect that.
Clare.
Amy and I live for six months on Great Diamond Island 2 miles off the coast of Portland, Maine. We live the other six months in Savannah,GA. There are rentals on the island. If your friend wants to se what it looks like then take a look at my wife’s photography at http://www.amyfarrellphotography.com
There are great places to stay in Maine. Camden, Wells Beach, Scarborough, and others.
SJ.
I figuered that as you told me that his Mom was thrilled he made the Dean’s list. Something I can not say myself. I was always a solid 2.75. LOL.
-dennis
Patrick,
Thanks. I’m hoping he’s in AA at this time next year. That’s the goal.
Its definitely doable because the Pirates are lacking in catching depth at the upper levels of the system.
If he keeps hitting like this, he could wind up at Lynchburg (high A) for August.
SA-WEET!!!!
So happy for Bannister.
Clare
She called me very embarrassed today to apologize. I told her if she prioritizes my stuff all would be forgotten.
She’s not a baseball fan but one of the gals she was with recognized Jeter and she knows her boss and I always talk Yankees. He was with 2 other guys they couldn’t place by name at a club in Newport Beach.
She said people were buzzing about him being there but no one bothered him. She left shortly after they got there so that’s all she knew.
Posada with the 2 run walk off single!
(Watching the Yankees Classic against the Angels when Fuentes screwed up)
trisha,
Are you ahead of gameday? runner on third with a wild pitch, 2 outs
Sometimes you leave the pitcher in for one pitch too many.
Hopefully Bannister can still be proud of his outing.
1-0 on Pedroia’s double. Hey maybe they can get to Papelbon.
m-
0-1
Joe – Mechanics are not something that should take half a year to figure out. Solid mechanics are something they work on day in and day out. Whether he can figure them out or not I don’t know, but figuring out mechanics as a college pitcher was not difficult when you knew your mechanics in the first place. IMO it looks as though Joba is just not comfortable right now because he hasn’t proved anything to himself this year. He labors badly to find the strike zone and cannot. I believe that his problems are simply mental. Arm problems from last year should not be spotting his fastball. If he would just work harder on going after hitters and not worry so much about striking everyone out, he could find himself and turn things around.
Oh trisha,
When I saw your post I thought Bannister had gotten out of the 8th! Ugh.
The elf drives in a run on a typical Fenway Park double (aka off the Green Monster).
Yankees should trade for Brian Bannister. The yanks need another starter.
Cano would have grounded out to second…
Just kidding.
Wait, am I?
“As I type this, Ramiro Pena (right) is in center field taking fly balls from roving outfielder instructor Jack Hubbard. He started by taking some ground balls, working on charging them and coming up ready to throw, but now it looks like Hubbard is going over some of the nuances of tracking fly balls.
Manager Dave Miley said yesterday that there’s a chance Pena could get a start in the outfield in the next two days. ”
http://community.thetimes-trib.....notes.aspx
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“Tar, I brought this up the other night when about 6 people were complaining about why Pena wasn’t playing in the outfield like he was “supposed” to be. Not sure how they figured they’d just stick him in an outfield spot without any type of instructions and practice. That wasn’t a good enough reason. You can bet that he’s been doing this since he was sent down, and probably doing the same thing in NY.”
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I presume you were calling me ?
I’m more glad he’s finally shagging balls or we finally found out he’s shagging more balls and soon to get OF PT.
Sorry Rconn. He had a beautiful K to make it two outs.
You get Joba turned around when Joba decides he’s sick of underperforming. When guys get sick of struggling, that’s the first step to turning it around. Not sure if Joba is there yet. No matter what happens, the sun will come up tomorrow and I will still have a job”. That was his comment after his last outing.
If he continues to disregard coaching advice, has trouble with catchers and convinces himself he’s pitching better than he is, he will continue to struggle.
If he becomes more coachable, works better with the catchers, and is more aggressive on the mound instead of nibbling all the time and working slow? You will see improvement.
He’s healthy. There is nothing wrong with his shoulder.
He has to work harder, be more coachable, and work on his conditioning.
He does that, he will have a better second half.
SJ: Your nephew needs to be at a different level!
It’s hard to expect much more from the Royals than to take one game from the Red Sox, given the talent level they put out there.
When Teahan is your best hitter, it doesn’t bode well too often.
Hopefully, Meche can regain his form tomorrow and they can at least split the series.
“1-0 on Pedroia’s double. Hey maybe they can get to Papelbon.”
Thier offense ? no chance. 1-0 will be the final.
SJ, fantastic news about your nephew…..glad nothing came of the plunking as far as a fight goes and that Tony exacted the sweetest sort of revenge on the pitcher.
The Royals have won one more game than I thought they were going to to and they hung in their for 8 innings. I can’t kill them for not executing against a top pitcher like Lester – that stuff happens. As long as they are putting in an effort against the Sox, no complaints.
Brandon, I was referring to anybody complaining about it. You, of a people should know that they aren’t just stick him out there in a game without practice and getting instruction.
Erica
I saw the Church interview on TV. He was really calm and not furious at all.
let’s see if Girardi and Eiland had a ‘come to Moses’ meeting with Joba about getting the ball, taking the sign, and throwing the pitch that is called to the target. If he does that and pitches well, maybe that will be all he needs.
I feel sorry for the Mets. Every game result I see, they always have a zero in the runs section.
Don Orsillo makes me cringe. How I would love for him to have a season-long bout with laryngitis. At least Remy doesn’t sound like he’s going to cry with every call, nor does every single play sound like it has last out of the world series implications. For instance, F’Ortiz just grounded it out. It sounded something like this: ORTIZ!!!!!……..grounds out to second.
He is really annoying. But then he’s only one step above their radio guy.
how can Lester look better than any of the yankee starters?
a low scoring pitchers duel…the kind of game the yanks can’t win
If your driving from Queens tonight, just be careful on the road.
BTW I like Franceour but he isn’t better than Ryan Church.
Patrick, I don’t see the point in keeping Robertson up here at all. He’s absolutely unreliable……..the worst thing for a reliever to be. He’s a waste for me at this point.
SJ44,
AA, wow. If he gets there next year, that’s really impressive.
Would you say his defense/pitch calling is ready for the big leagues right now? That seems to be the strongest part of his game (although with the way he’s hitting right now, I’m not so sure!)
If he seriously does get to AA next year we could see him in the majors in 2011, that’s pretty impressive.
Papelbon is in, count is 2-0 on first hitter
MG
July 10th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
let’s see if Girardi and Eiland had a ‘come to Moses’ meeting with Joba about getting the ball, taking the sign, and throwing the pitch that is called to the target. If he does that and pitches well, maybe that will be all he needs.
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Girardi himself said he doesn’t mind joba shaking off the catcher because pitchers have to show 100% conviction in the pitch they throw.
Rebecca,
Too early for that. Let’s see where he is at after 25 games.
100 AB’s will tell us more. He’s at 30 AB’s right now.
If he’s hitting some stupid number, .350 or more, after 100 AB’s, I would agree it may be Lynchburg Time.
This game though has a funny way of humbling you quickly.
A few 0-4, and you come back to earth pretty quickly.
First 8 games though? More than any of us could have expected!
“Thier offense ? no chance. 1-0 will be the final.”
Brandon, did they bus in ringers to get 8 runs last night? I don’t get you guys sometimes!
1 out, the guy swung at a 2-0 pitch outside of the strike zone and hit a weak fly ball
pat, Erica -
I saw the Church interview on SNY, too, and I agree, pat, that he seemed pretty cool with it.
The Mets are going to get shut out again. 3-0.
No runners advanced past 1st base.
They should’ve kept Church and gotten rid of manuel.
“If your driving from Queens tonight, just be careful on the road.”
Why?? Are the NYC drivers driving particularly bad?
the Royals have no chance, Papelbon has them overmatched…
Smith, yeah – the Yankees haven’t won enough in the last couple of weeks. They should have gone 15-15 instead of 13-15. Our pitching has sucked, you’re right – go crawl back under your rock.
Pat, Doreen-
I did not see the interview. I only read the article. Those sounded like angry words to me :angry:
Smith,
You mean the kind the Red Sox have been losing lately to inferior teams because their offense is coming back down to earth?
Does anyone else find it interesting that Papelcrow said he would play for the Yankees? That’s almost heresy! (And he’s the last person I would want on the Yankees.) But I cannot imagine a Yankee player saying they would want to play for the Suxers. Wouldn’t that make you at least a little unpopular with the fans? Yes I know he said his choice would be to stay with the Sux. But still. Pettitte said he would retire before he’d play for the Sux. That’s more what you would expect to hear.
That’s not what Girardi said. Girardi has talked about balance and pace with Joba. Shaking off occasionally is ok.
Its when he does it all the time, especially with runners on base, that leads to problems.
It slows his pace, he loses his rhythm and it takes him out of his game.
Its all about balance. That’s why developing young arms is such a challenge. No two guys develop at the same pace.
Arroyo and the Reds win
Should Cashman trade for Brian Bannister?
The Royals are willing to trade him.
Mets loose again. Arroyo with the complete game.
I feel bad for David Wright.
And SNY needs to stop toputing that Church trade as a big trade, srsly Church is better than Frenchy.
Betsy,
Considering he is a middle reliever and not one of the guys we count on to get high leverage outs we can handle it for now. He has nothing left to learn at AAA. He needs to learn that he can’t walk hitters like he could in the minors.
Alba is very mediocre, the Yanks made the right call here.
Definitely put the sound down for the end of this. I refuse to listen to that tool Orsillo with the cry in his voice.
Yanks catch a break with Hunter and Vlad on the DL.
Joba needs to throw strikes.
I still think Hughes will be a better stater than Joba. He also seems to be more mature than Joba.
I did like how Heyman mentioned on WFAN this morning how the Sox are 8-0 against the Yankees and still tied (ok now 1/2 game up but whatever) with them……he gave the Yanks credit for beating up on the teams they have to beat up, while at the same time saying the Sox just aren’t as good against those teams). Of course, he also mentioned the Yanks poor record against the Sox/Rays…….but the point is, he wasn’t kissing the Sox’s fanny.
Not disappointed in the Royals – again, I’m happy they took one game.
This is going to be a tough series for the Yankees to win…….I would love 2/3, but I’ll be fine with 1 win and a 4-2 record. I just hope they don’t get swept.
manny with the clutch go-ahead HR vs Milwaukee.
he’s a much better hitter than Arod. he just sees the ball and hits it. none of these wild swings and misses like Arod when he guesses wrong.
manny over Arod every day of the week.
Hopefully KC takes the series.
3rd hit for ajax on the night…now batting .321
Cue the Red Sox trolls happy their team could pull one out against a AAA team.
Cue the Red Sox trolls happy their team could pull one out against a AAA team.
Doreen
It seems just to be a change of scenery trade that you hope works out well for both players.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 10th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
I feel bad for David Wright.
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Wright made the last out last night too I think.
Tough for Mets fans.
Francoeur is crap. But he’s young and maybe he’ll spark something…sending the Mets down in flames for the rest of the season.
I wonder why Manuel hated Church so much.
Patrick,
Defensively, he’s big league ready now. Pitch calling? Not yet. Needs at least 100 more games in that area before we can make that judgment.
Buster Posey is in AAA now and Jason Castro is in AA. They are the two college catchers that were selected in the Top 10 of last year’s draft.
Is it ambitious for us to shoot for AA? Yes.
However, if he shows he can do it, the Pirates have said they will fast track him. We shall see.
Nephew AB #5…..Walked with the bases loaded for another RBI. That’s now 5 RBI for the night and WVA is winning 15-3 in the 5th.
KC has a decent chance tomorrow with Meche against Smoltz but no chance on Sunday with Beckett against Bruce Chen.
SJ: It’s Monterian
Seriously, though, I can’t imagine how proud you must be!
“manny over Arod every day of the week.”
I’m too Awesome to give a damn about what “smith” saids.
Smith, you are apparently still Lost in Space…
Patrick, yesterday was a pretty high leverage situation wouldn’t you say? Robertson was dreadful – inexcusable walking in two runs. I don’t want him learning how to throw strikes in the major leagues – that’s what AAA is for. I just want to know who can get the job done on a consistent basis and that’s Alby. We disagree, thats’ fine…….I wish the Yankees agreed with me. I think they made a mistake…….
Yay, no Kendrick!
YES Clubhouse Report with Kim Jones:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/625071465cd2cff9/
just for grins, what would Cleveland want for Cliff Lee? I really like the way he pitches, very much like a young Andy Pettitte.
Im shocked Papel didn’t go into convulsion and run around the filed naked after he saved the game lol
“If your driving from Queens tonight, just be careful on the road.”
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Maybe angry Mets fans will take their anger out on unsuspecting motorists? Shut out, CG by Arroyo.
Somewhere, Fatcessa smiles.
Just another poster to skip right over – no big deal.
smith -
What exactly is your purpose here?
“Cue the Red Sox trolls happy their team could pull one out against a AAA team.”
They eeked out a one-run win tonight and lost last night 8-6. That ain’t much to feel too happy about!
SJ44,
HAHA!!! And Keith Law said drafting your nephew that high was a mistake! You show that Keith Law, Mr Sanchez, you show him!!
Doreen is to remind you
you >>>> smith
m
July 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
They should’ve kept Church and gotten rid of manuel.
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No, they should’ve gotten rid of Omar.
pat -
I think you’re right about it being a “change of scenery trade.”
maybe Smith is the antimatter of Mo’sflatcutter…
You know that in the ozone those things are possible. Hanging on for dear life the Sux have turned into one big
YAWN!!!!!
Its definitely time for Red Sox troll night here.
They won a 1-0 game.
Tell Tex’s wife there are big sales on Newbury St. after this one. Its what you do when you win a game like this against the Royals.
Red Sox trolls are funny to me. To show up tonight and talk junk is so funny.
What’s there to celebrate?
You had a 10 game homestand against Seattle, Oakland and KC and you are 4-4 right now. One of your brethren even came on here and predicted 10-0. Most people would have thought you guys would go at least 7-3, 8-2 against those teams. That’s not going to happen now.
If you had any functional brain cells, you would realize its really not good to be tied with a team that you have beaten 8 times so far this year in the standings.
It means, those wins have not given you any distance in the standings.
That’s not good.
But hey, congrats on that “great” effort tonight. Well done1
They eeked out a one-run win tonight and lost last night 8-6. That ain’t much to feel too happy about!
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Whatever happened to a win’s a win?
Doesn’t apply to Red Sox fans??
Manny is a great hitter. He is so flaky that he seems to feel no pressure when he is up no matter what the situation.
SJ, methinks that Smith = Mo’sflatcutter.
Yeah they’re hanging on by the skin of their teeth, barely won tonight, lost last night, and this is reason to celebrate?
Me also thinks that the boy doth flappeth his jaw too much.
“They should’ve kept Church and gotten rid of manuel.
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No, they should’ve gotten rid of Omar.”
I want them to get rid of both, Omar b/c he sucks, Jerry b/c he deserves better.
Stultus Magnus July 10th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
m
July 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
They should’ve kept Church and gotten rid of manuel.
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No, they should’ve gotten rid of Omar.
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They should get rid of both and just start a new
SJ.
I show up when I have time to chat baseball. I would never gloat or complain. I come here because there are some great baseball posters.
-dennis
Oh there he is laughing. Can always count on a few LOLs from Jerry
After two posts getting stuck in the censor I think that we are not supposed to mention the name of a previous Sux poster, the beginning of whose screenname was the nickname of our closer…
Betsy you just hope the Yanks just don’t get swept? Have you seen the Angles line-up?? If they dont win 2 out of 3 its a big disappointment.
If I were a Sox fan, I’d say “glad we won” and regarding the disappointing homestand “there’s still plenty of season left. We are in first.”
Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?
LOL something tells me the Sox trolls are scared. If they weren’t, would they be here, wearing their masks of false bravado? Why aren’t they celebrating on their own boards? That’s what I would do if the Yankees won a close game…..Hilarious. If the Yankees lose tonight, they will be all of one game back……the worst they can be is 3 back, so regardless, they are in great shape.
AS to the pen, I forgot that CC and AJ can pitch an inning or so in one of these games thanks to the break……
LOL Manuel just dissed Frenchy
What do you like about Franceour
“He’s a tremendous defensive player”……*pause* “even though I’m looking for defense right now”
HAHAHAHAHA *sinister Jerry laugh*
Dennis, you are hardly a troll.
I’m told that there are several scouts near by…Royals, Giants, Blue Jays, Padres…..Need a good outing from the Joba…..Both for the club as well as for himself……Just attack with the heater, north-south, east west…It’s not rocket science Joba, just locate the fastball and everything elese will fall in place…..Enjoy the game guys, I just think that Chamberlain gets back to basics tonight…..
Curious, I still respect the Angels like I respect any team, even the worst teams. I’m not going to kill the Yankees if they lose 2/3 – they’ve played so well, I think that would be unfair. Plus, I have little faith in Joba and just a tad more in Andy……
Votto is hitting .529 vs the Mets in 4 games.
Betsy
Robertson pitched 1 inning no hits 2 k’s and 3 bb. He’s 24 with a great curveball, and I guess a learning curve(:D). Cut him some slack.
“If I were a Sox fan, I’d say “glad we won” and regarding the disappointing homestand “there’s still plenty of season left. We are in first.”
Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?”
Uh, how would you know unless you frequent their boards. It’s a little different saying it on your own forum and running to another team’s forum to announce it. See?
And context is a very important thing. I agree with Betsy. I think you are seeing some very frightened trolls and that’s where the very misplaced bravado is coming from.
Betsy, you are getting as many as 9 innings from CC on Sunday…
I’m not saying they need to win 2 out of 3 but they should. They just need to stay close this month. Because the Sox and Rays play nobodies until August.
I am tired already. Darn you 10pm starts
Here’s an idea the Mets need to trade Pelfrey IMO, he’s the only one that will land them a young stud player like a Votto or just some type of bat to help them. They should do it when they fire Minaya.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! July 10th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
I feel bad for David Wright.
And SNY needs to stop toputing that Church trade as a big trade, srsly Church is better than Frenchy.
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SO funny remember when they traded for Church, and how he was going to be the best rf’er in NY. Now they cast him away like yesterdays trash. Guy never got a fair shake in NY, especially considering how poorly the Mets reacted when he got the concussion.
Dennis,
You and Ray aren’t trolls. Big, big difference.
You know you are always welcome here.
So are the trolls. Especially when we need comic relief!
The only thing that scares me about the Angles line up right now is knowing they are going to run wild.
Well, GO my wonderful wonderful Jose Molina (seriously thrilled to have him back), GO Yankees, and GO Joba!!!
I am my sore throat and cough are taking this one to the couch.
I am predicting a nice Yankee win and continued rightful occupying of first place!
Congrats to Lester on a great game. That kid has some kind of heart,will, and desire to be pitching at such a high level in the big leagues. Yankee fan aside his story is some kind of awesome. Too bad the game had to be finished by one of the biggest clowns in the MLB.
“Betsy
Robertson pitched 1 inning no hits 2 k’s and 3 bb. He’s 24 with a great curveball, and I guess a learning curve(:D). Cut him some slack.”
even Coney said it, all that’s missing from him is command, he’s 24 he’ll prbly get it. I see him as a potetial Saito type reliever.
Brandon =
Check it – he said even though he WASN’T looked for defense right now.
I don’t know how they can spin this as a beneficial trade. it’s a blah trade.
I guess that the hope is both of those players will blossom in a new environment.
Ill take that game from Lester its all good for my fantasy team.
“So are the trolls. Especially when we need comic relief!”
Dennis, we love having you – I enjoy talking to Red Sox fans. I always find it interesting to get the perspective from the other side – and rivalries make the game fun. One thing I don’t get about my father is how he can grow up in Brooklyn as a Dodger fan, during a time when there were 3 great franchises and burning rivalries…….and now he doesn’t get why I spend so much of my time hating the Mets (I think he understands about the Sox, although I also think he laughs at how much I use the word “hate” and “Sox” in the same sentence). To me, getting on a good hate is part of sports fandom…..as long as it’s just kept to sports and not into the realm of the personal.
The reason why I say get rid of manuel. Well there’s too many reasons to discourse, he lets personal feelings get in the way. It was totally obvious that he didn’t like Church.
Girardi has his faults, but he would at least pretend to like a guy. Would say stuff like he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
tonight’s game can’t be a bad experience, the MLB package has the YES feed and not the Angels announcers, there is nothing worse than listening to Steve Physioc and Rex Hudler (unless it’s Dewayne Staats and whoever is doing color).
smith
July 10th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
manny with the clutch go-ahead HR vs Milwaukee.
he’s a much better hitter than Arod. he just sees the ball and hits it. none of these wild swings and misses like Arod when he guesses wrong.
manny over Arod every day of the week.
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and, yet, the “wild swinging” Alex Rodriguez has fewer strikeouts in 200 more at bats than Ramirez.
Was Joba buddies with Adehart? YES just showed Joba praying by the picture on the outfield wall, touching it, then pointing to the sky.
I hate late West Coast games. Red Sox already won, and the Rays will probably win too before this game is halfway over.
Tarheel, I like Robertson – I do. He’s frustrating to me, though. I hope he can harness his control because he obviously has good stuff…….
I honestly loved Ryan Church and thought he was one of the better players the Met’s had.
Anyone see this pearl from Omar Minaya about Francoeur:
“One thing we like about Francoeur is the amount of games that he plays.”
LOL. Alrighty then! I.m sold.
It should have continued “The thing, we don’t like about him, of course, is that he’s one of the worst players in baseball. But we’re overlooking that for now.”
Gotta love the Mets.
“tonight’s game can’t be a bad experience, the MLB package has the YES feed and not the Angels announcers, there is nothing worse than listening to Steve Physioc and Rex Hudler (unless it’s Dewayne Staats and whoever is doing color).”
-I’m gonna have to disagree and say the Orioles announcers are even worse. I went to school in PA and had to listen to them broadcast yanks/o’s games.. zzzzzzzzzzz
West Coast Cherubim…
The Pinstripes’ winged nemesis…
You shall not take flight!
lets go yanks!…im looking forward to watching joba…even though hes struggled and very frustrating at times i still like watching him
“The reason why I say get rid of manuel. Well there’s too many reasons to discourse, he lets personal feelings get in the way. It was totally obvious that he didn’t like Church.”
We don’t know what reason it was, but Church and Mets had problems even before Jerry. Although Jerry is a reason not “the” reason he’s gone. Minaya IMHO is the first guy on that payroll that needs a pink slip. He has done a horrible job. There is no depth there. Nothing, look even a A ball team gets an XBH here and there. The METS HAVE NOTHING, Wright is just alone on an island and he’s not ready for that kind of pressure.
“Girardi has his faults, but he would at least pretend to like a guy. Would say stuff like he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.”
But you miss the point that the GM delt him not Jerry.
I forget his name, but I do not like this home plate ump.
dennis-Costanza
July 10th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
SJ.
I show up when I have time to chat baseball. I would never gloat or complain. I come here because there are some great baseball posters.
-dennis
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And here I thought you only came here to be abused, Dennis.
Six home runs in his last two starts for Saunders. Tex, Alex, and maybe even Swisher SHOULD tee-off on this guy.
I think that the Mets are desperate right now and Omar is just trying to do something to shake the team up.
And I’m sorry but hearing Carlin and SNY talk about Franceour as if he were Vladamir Guerrero is LOL worthy here.
Trish, that guy was a troll, but I do agree with Stultus that you take a win anyway you can get it. 1-0, 10-0, it doesn’t matter…..However, of course, the difference is that that poster was obviously a troll and just trying to start something. SJ’s point was a good one also – going 4-4 against the M’s, A’s and Royals isn’t something to crow about.
Dave, at least Jim Palmer is a professional announcer and Gary Thorne isn’t horrible. Have you ever listened to Physioc and Hudler? I lived in SoCal for 2 years and it was like hearing nails scrape on a blackboard.
Dennis,
Thanks for the info.
no offense tonight, ugh. A real scratch hit by Jeter
that ball was REALLY smoked.
nice start Jetes!
Nice way to start the game
Hitting .440 against lefties? Nice DJ.
Fran, Omar needs to be fired, they just made Atlanta a stronger team w/ that trade.
that was one of the harder hit balls ive seen up the middle….if saunders would of touched that with his pitching hand he wouldnt have one anymore
Brandon,
Doesn’t matter, Jerry didn’t handle the situation well at all. No front office, previous manager, whatever will change that.
It’s Jerry’s job to make it work.
GB7.
I also show up when I have insomnia. Same thing I guess…
-dennis
Jackson throws out the game tying runner at home from right field. Scranton wins 5-4.
rconn23 July 10th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Anyone see this pearl from Omar Minaya about Francoeur:
“One thing we like about Francoeur is the amount of games that he plays.”
LOL. Alrighty then! I.m sold.
It should have continued “The thing, we don’t like about him, of course, is that he’s one of the worst players in baseball. But we’re overlooking that for now.”
Gotta love the Mets.
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Great reason to make a trade! He plays a lot of games. LOL those mets, no wonder they stink.
dennis-Costanza
July 10th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
GB7.
I also show up when I have insomnia. Same thing I guess…
-dennis
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We’re happy to help you out in either case, Dennis. That’s what friends do.
Oh and he put the whammy on Jeff.
Nice way to start the team. Hopefully Tex can but a hurting on his former team.
Jennifer, that is hysterical.
If Saunders continues to pitch like this, and Joba serves up a “Joba Special”, this is gonna be a LONG game.
nice take out slide by Damon
Donnie – Will Meet Chone Figgins Under the O’Neill Banner
July 10th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Was Joba buddies with Adehart? YES just showed Joba praying by the picture on the outfield wall, touching it, then pointing to the sky.
**
Maybe it had something to do with the DUI
MG – I must admit I haven’t. Gary Thorne – I think – is pretty unbearable but I can’t pretend I listened to the Angels guys. As fans we can have such a love-hate relationship with announcers you can convince yourself no duo is worse. In any case – very glad you aren’t suffering tonight. Ken Singleton is the man and I love Flaherty too.
Ok, can Arod get a sac fly here?
Guy just walked Damon after having him down 0-2, and Tex swings first pitch? Bad form, Mark.
anyone watching on MLBTV who can tell me why I can’t get the YES feed and have to listen to these morons from the Angels?
is it the mics or is the crowd really loud even outside of the boo’s
I think the Mets need to seriously consider breaking up the core and rebuilding. If the last few seasons have proven anything, the core of the Mets team does not work
But at least they are breaking their fans hearts in july instead of the last day of the season
Dave, until you’ve heard both Physioc and Dewayne Staats you haven’t heard bad broadcasting. And I even like Michael Kay and can tolerate Hawk Harrelson.
RalphieD (OPPC)
July 10th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
is it the mics or is the crowd really loud even outside of the boo’s
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I don’t think the mics are loud enough
clutch
very nice arod!…the crowd really is loud
Mr. Clutch
Nice job, Arod! Think Manny ever hustles like that?
“I don’t think the mics are loud enough”
hearing impaired
?
“I think the Mets need to seriously consider breaking up the core and rebuilding. If the last few seasons have proven anything, the core of the Mets team does not work
But at least they are breaking their fans hearts in july instead of the last day of the season”
But Erica! Jose Reyes is the most exciting player in baseball!!!
Can’t STAND that guy.
SWISHA!
Alex with an RBI double.
THAT’S HOW YOU START IT !
Swisher!!
Arod and Swish getting back to back hits w/RISP? Must be our night.
Alex!
Swishy!
Yes!
Whew. That play at the plate was closer than I liked. A good throw beats him
I feel like the crowd is in my living room and I can’t hear the YES broadcasters at all
Yankee Stadium west?
A-Rod lumbering around 3B.
Lumbering is my favorite adjective Michael Kay ever used to describe Jason Giambi crossing home plate.
I guess this lineup isn’t so bad at all.
Great jump by Alex on that ball.
Nice to see A-Rod running good there.
Arod! Swisher!
But Erica! Jose Reyes is the most exciting player in baseball!!!
Can’t STAND that guy.
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Seriously. LOL. I keep waiting for the day he becomes a giant superstar. Or decides his knee feels better and he could consider playing baseball again.
I would take the Jeterman over that clown any day of the week
Wow, Yankees have not trailed for the last 67 innings on the road (since the Girardi ejection game). That’s unbelievable..
This is good for the Yankees – not good for my fantasy team.
Brandon, do you really think this trade makes Atlanta better? I don’t think it really does much for either team.
I like starting the game like this! This should be a good lead for Joba to feel comfortable.
Fran-
I feel your pain. My dad has Saunders on hsi team too. When I saw him earlier he said a prayer for a Yankee win in a low scoring game
the barry williams line is absolutely hilarious.
Clipping Cherubs wings…
Jeter, A-Rod, Swisher too…
We lead three nothing!
22 pitches for Saunders
Jobamania time
I’ve Got Joba and Saunders on my team! Ugh… At least Edwin Jackson was great again tonight..
Barry Williams, LOL Peter.
Wasn’t Juan Rivera the one who stole Jeter’s glove?
Re: Reyes, I don’t understand how a player goes from being out for only 2 days to being out for 2 months. Makes no sense what so ever.
erica- Not sure you are joking but no it was ruben rivera.
Of course, I have faith in Joba with an early lead on the road.
Erica, I am willing to sacrifice my fantasy team tonight for a Yankee win!
Greg Brady is in the stands?? And people think the Yankees attract big celebrities…
Wasn’t Juan Rivera the one who stole Jeter’s glove?
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that was Ruben Rivera
I love Barry Williams – love the Bunch. How was he?
Joba better stay aggressive and keep the pitch count low.
jennifer
July 10th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
erica- Not sure you are joking but no it was ruben rivera.
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No, I wasn’t joking. I am not that clever. I got the names mixed up
97 mph. Is the gun right?
is says Figgions has a .320 BA against the Yankees lifetime, it seems closer to .480 if you ask me.
good start on Figgins
The Yankees are like a machine at this point. Single, walk, double, single, 3-0. A-Rod hustles to second and then scores from there as Juan Rivera makes a bad throw.
My belief is that the presence of Barry Williams has inspired this.
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~snort~
K for Joba
“Seriously. LOL. I keep waiting for the day he becomes a giant superstar. Or decides his knee feels better and he could consider playing baseball again.
I would take the Jeterman over that clown any day of the week”
The guy just isn’t that good. His numbers, for the most part, look a lot like Gardner’s this year.
I also think he looks like Zack, the Black Ranger from Power Rangers, and that’s just infinitely comical to me.
Meanwhile, way to go, Joba! THAT’S what he needs to do.
“Brandon, do you really think this trade makes Atlanta better? I don’t think it really does much for either team.”
They got a more consistant hitter. Better clutch hitter too.
I don’t like how Boras is watching Joba.
That’s the way to do it, Joba. Get ahead and attack with the fastball. No need to go to the slider in the dirt on EVERY 0-2, 1-2 count.
good glove by cano
keep attacking Joba
Joba’s pace is very brisk…I like it…get the ball and throw it…
Interesting.
Does anyone else notice that Jose Molina set up in the middle of the plate on that last pitch?
Stalwart, nascent ace…
Wanting, in the waning sun…
Win, next to his name…
Erica- Oh the reason I ask is cause a few years back. Michael Kay was going on and on how Juan Rivera stole Jeters glove. Finally someone told him he was wrong and it was Ruben. Well word got to Juan than Kay called him a thief, and he was ticked!
I was pretty sad to see Abreu go
And that first pitch to Abreu too?
that was easy.
I like this Joba
Efficient 1-2-3.
These hitters know what they are doing. They got aggressive in the top of the first to calm Joba down. These guys are vets..helping out the young pitcher.
most efficient 1st ever for joba
Good 1st inning for Joba. It must be Jose Molina
see joba look what happens when you throw strikes
….Who the hell was that and what did he do with Joba Chamberlain?
YAY!!! I like that first inning.
For the second inning, I would like an exact repeat. Yankee runs and all
Perfect inning after the team jumps out to a 3-0 lead. Keep the pressure on Saunders.
what was that…………….10 pitches?
9 pitches for Jobber
Saw this video while on wearyellow.com. It’s a commercial for cancer awareness featuring Jon Lester. It’s about a minute long and I just wanted to pass it along.
http://alturl.com/8r4n
very good first inning for joba…hit 94.6 on the last pitch…had location and an excellent rhythm
Just got home from dinner and am catching up.
Did I see that right? The Mets traded Ryan Church for Francouer? Are you serious? Anyone else involved?
I never understood what Church did wrong for the Mets. Was he too good a player?
Wow only 9 pitches.
jennifer
July 10th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Erica- Oh the reason I ask is cause a few years back. Michael Kay was going on and on how Juan Rivera stole Jeters glove. Finally someone told him he was wrong and it was Ruben. Well word got to Juan than Kay called him a thief, and he was ticked!
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Err, yeah. That’s it. I was making fun of Michael Kay. You caught me
For those worried about his velocity, he hit 97 on the called strike 3 to Figgins.
THANK YOU, YOUNG MR. CHAMBERLAIN.
Best thing he could do. Attacked guys, didn’t nibble, and worked fast. The less rest we can give Saunders, the better. Let’s plate 2 or 3 more and step on their necks.
Joba didn’t throw any sliders that inning, maybe he needs to get away from it for awhile to get hitters to start chasing it again. The best time to throw it is with 0-2 or 1-2 counts, not at 2-2 or 3-2
joba looks like a completely different pitcher on the road. maybe the ny nightlife is the culprit. or maybe he just psyches himself out at the stadium? who knows…
abreu is such a good solid hitter. always reliable. at the new stadium and with tex in the lineup, abreu would’ve been unreal for us…but twas not meant to be.
YES gun needs to be calibrated.
Everything is reading 5 MPH too slow.
Joe, that’s the trade. Church for Francouer.
Should have been 8. That curve was a strike.
Joseph 3 for 4 again tonite in Charleston. He and Lassiter really coming on, Teix doing silly again, pull the outside pitch, tcch, tcch.
Watching on FSAngels on West Coast.
They had Joba at 97 on the Figgins K too.
Joe from Long Island
July 10th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Just got home from dinner and am catching up.
Did I see that right? The Mets traded Ryan Church for Francouer? Are you serious? Anyone else involved?
I never understood what Church did wrong for the Mets. Was he too good a player?
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the rest of baseball seems to be collectively scratching their heads. It seems to just be a general change of scenary move for both teams
Erica – always OPPC
July 10th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Wasn’t Juan Rivera the one who stole Jeter’s glove?
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Ruben Rivera is the polar opposite of his couson, Mariano Rivera.
Joe- Yep player for player
Erica- See I knew it.
It’s amazing to me how sometimes Joba’s fastball is 88-91 mph and he has bad command, and then other times it’s 93-96 mph and he’s hitting the corners.
Quick inning with the fast ball getting up to 97. Go Joba!
of his cousin, Mariano Rivera.
Great inning for Joba. Lets hope he can keep it up.
OMG,Joba pitched a 9 pitch 1st inning shut out.Maybe he heard
the trade talk.
No shaking off, just throw the pitch, Meat.
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Hahaha. You’re hilarious, Pete.
Donnie – Will Meet Chone Figgins Under the O’Neill Banner
July 10th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
The guy just isn’t that good. His numbers, for the most part, look a lot like Gardner’s this year.
I also think he looks like Zack, the Black Ranger from Power Rangers, and that’s just infinitely comical to me.
Meanwhile, way to go, Joba! THAT’S what he needs to do.
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My sister used to pretend she was the pink Power Ranger. LOL. That line just made me remember how cute my sister used to be (today is her 22nd birthday)
Anyway, welcome to officially being my friend
“very good first inning for joba…hit 94.6 on the last pitch…had location and an excellent rhythm”
Never underestimate the power of a Molina!
9 pitch inning AND topping out at 97 mph? I repeat: ….Who the hell was that and what did he do with Joba Chamberlain?
“Greg Brady is in the stands?? And people think the Yankees attract big celebrities…”
Look at the bright side; it wasn’t cousin Oliver.
welcome back, jose.
Welcome back Jose!
wow i didnt even realize that k pitch to figgins was 97….
Good AB Jose! Worked the count and got a hit!
Cervelli 2 for 4 – a 2B and a Bunt single.
Eight pitch AB that ends in a single. Welcome back, Panda.
Saw this video while on wearyellow.com. It’s a commercial for cancer awareness featuring Jon Lester. It’s about a minute and I just wanted to pass it along.
http://tiny.cc/aKlWU
Great AB by Molina. Either he’s excited about being back in Anaheim or he juts wanted to shut up the Cervelli mourners
Laura – And the Oscar goes to….Optimus Prime!!
July 10th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
“Greg Brady is in the stands?? And people think the Yankees attract big celebrities…”
Look at the bright side; it wasn’t cousin Oliver.
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Haha. Do you think anyone could pick cousin Oliver out of a lineup today?
UGGGG…I HATE THIS LINEUP….MOLINA IS THE SUCK1111
Lot of shutouts tonight. The pitchers are doing their thang.
YES gun continues to suck. Joba threw smoke in that first inning.
You would think they would have fixed it by now.
***Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Just got home from dinner and am catching up.
Did I see that right? The Mets traded Ryan Church for Francouer? Are you serious? Anyone else involved?***
The Minaya and Manuel were trying to get rid of Church for a while. The Braves obviously get a superior player, and the fact that it comes within the division means that Church will have the opportunity to throw it back in Manuel’s face.
VERY interesting.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 10th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
9 pitch inning AND topping out at 97 mph? I repeat: ….Who the hell was that and what did he do with Joba Chamberlain?
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More like “oh, there you are Joba. Who was that other guy?”
Coach, you are correct, sir!
Only 3 runs in 1 1/3 innings, definitely could be improved.
“Haha. Do you think anyone could pick cousin Oliver out of a lineup today?”
Only the die hard fans probably.
The Mets had no choice but to trade Church. Manuel was tired of lying about how he didn’t hate the guy. He wasn’t fooling anybody. Stevie Wonder could see that he hated him.
The Mets go to Atlanta first or second series after the ASB. Should be interesting
work him Jetes
41 pitches for Saunders with one out in the second. The only way this AB is a failure is if we let him off by GIDP.
NOYCE!
Great at bat. Down 0-2 and worked it.
I’m no genius but Saunders is giving up alot of hard line drives.
Jetes!
This is the last thing I’m going to say about the Mets tonight, but they are truly screwed up. That deal makes no sense.
Jeter must like DHing, he has smoked the ball both times tonight.
Great stop by Rivera to save a run, maybe even 2.
RBI for MPB Johnny Damon!!!!!!!!!!!
Molina
Run Jose Run
Damon!
Molina booking it as best as he could haha
AWESOME, DAMON!
CHUGG-A-LUGG MY PUERTO RICAN CHOO-CHOO TRAIN!
“This is the last thing I’m going to say about the Mets tonight, but they are truly screwed up. That deal makes no sense.”
It smells like a deal that was made just so that they could say that they did something.
you know it’s a good night when Jose Molina scores from 2nd on anything that isn’t in an alley.
Damon!
look at the “crap” lineup produce…shame…lol
Neck stomp, Tex. Neck stomp.
***Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I never understood what Church did wrong for the Mets. Was he too good a player?***
The Mets have a reputation in baseball similar to the Seattle mariners of giving priviledges and special considerations to players of certain….ethnic backgrounds.
Apparently, it’s a bad clubhouse atmosphere for some players with thin skins or don’t have “superstar” protection.
I thought batting practice was earlier today?
Saunders is one pitch away from being down 7-0
Laura – And the Oscar goes to….Optimus Prime!!
July 10th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
“This is the last thing I’m going to say about the Mets tonight, but they are truly screwed up. That deal makes no sense.”
It smells like a deal that was made just so that they could say that they did something.
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Kind of like, I cleaned my bathroom mirror- so now I can say I cleaned my bathroom???
Angels announcers are such homers, I almost prefer to be listening to Sterling.
Almost.
Angels announcers are such homers, I almost prefer to be listening to Sterling.
Almost.
I am REALLY so happy to have Molina back. You forget just how much value he has for this team!
YAY!!!!!!
They’re not booing, they’re saying “Newwwwwwwbury”.
50 pitches for Saunders tonight.
BJK, you mean you don’t enjoy Phys and Hud?
Tex was out on that pitch.
Molina scoring from 2nd on a single? Did they install a bionic quad while he was out? Not enough can be said about Robbie Thompson incredible instinct this year. He’s the best 3rd base coach the Yankees have had in recent memory. His call on Arod in the 1st was excellent because he noticed right away that Arod got an excellent jump.
Does anyone else still shake their head that the Yanks managed to get Tex in addition to CC and Burnett? I’m sure I’ll get over it eventually…
Or that.
At least Johnny has shown his aptitude for killing the second baseman. That’s been two great take-out slides tonight.
Funny to think about how much fluff there’s been about Jeter being washed up and how he had to be moved from SS ASAP. As ESPN reminded us over and over no team with a SS 35 years old has ever won a world series.. blah… blah.
Jeter has been fine defensively. Not great but fine. Around league average. There’s no indication from his defensive play this year that he’s a significant defensive liability – nor was he last year.
And he’s having some year at the plate. Just outstanding. He didn’t drive the ball last year and I think that’s because he was hurt.
But his year he’s looked very good. He might have hit most of his home runs at the stadium but he’s driving the ball well even on the road.
He’s been one of the top 2 SS in the AL this year and one of the top 5 in all of baseball.
Johnnie saved Tex on two GIDP so far tonight. Has Sleepy Joe called one hit and run yet tonight on a sinkerball pitcher?
Thompson is a huge improvement over Bobby Meachem, who was probably the worst 3rd base coach in Yankees history.
Nice take-out slide Damon
“Kind of like, I cleaned my bathroom mirror- so now I can say I cleaned my bathroom???”
Exactly. They got tired of hearing the fans complain that they weren’t doing anything to stop the Mets slide.
Wow, this ump’s strike zone is ginormous.
Ghost, that would have been a great call, run your guys at 1st and 2nd with Teix and Arod hitting, what a great potential rally killer
its ok arod…you got a big hit b4
no bueno Al.
58 pitches for Saunders
Back to work Jobber
The Mets are almost in last place. They are lucky that the Nats are in their division.
CB – add to that the awesome fact that Jeter has only one less SB than Gardner this year.
“Thompson is a huge improvement over Bobby Meachem, who was probably the worst 3rd base coach in Yankees history.”
I dunno, dude, Luis Sojo was pretty friggin’ terrible.
And Teix continues to pull everything, totally amazing. What’s happened to him?
“Johnnie saved Tex on two GIDP so far tonight. Has Sleepy Joe called one hit and run yet tonight on a sinkerball pitcher?”
4-0 lead and your still complaining?
Is SEA cleaning house as well? They dealt Betancourt to KC.
MG
July 10th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
BJK, you mean you don’t enjoy Phys and Hud?
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I know they’re paid to rally the Angels fan base, but the consistent making excuses for their players gets a tad old.
Dave,
That’s a very good point. I should have mentioned that. He’s been fantastic on the bases. Not only is he stealing a lot of bases – he’s doing so very, very efficiently. He’s gotten caught only a couple of times.
He’s having a superstar year at SS. Very good to see.
Laura, Seattle committed highway robbery with that deal.
CB, you’re so right. I actually predicted Jeter would have a bounceback year -I’m thrilled for him. He is one of the most respected players in the game and that’s what I take the most pride in. The fact that I was lucky enough to see this babe in the woods grow up to be a HOFer means a lot to me. He was ranked, I believe, #7 on MLB network’s top SS of all-time – that’s amazing when you think of it. You could make the argument he’s better than Cal Ripken, I think, also. I can’t believe he’s 35 years old – it’s scary. What’s amazing to me is that he is the same person now as he was then – at 22 years old, he acted like a ten year vet.
the YES gun is horrible tonight
“I dunno, dude, Luis Sojo was pretty friggin’ terrible.”
‘Send em home’ Soho…
Liked him as a player though…
It looked like Melky could have gotten that ball. Did he not see it?
“And Teix continues to pull everything, totally amazing. What’s happened to him?”
absolutely nothing? what are you talking about?
they showed Joba’s last pitch at 89, it looked 94-95 to me.
“Laura, Seattle committed highway robbery with that deal.”
Has anyone called 911?
Jeter is one of the smartest baserunners in the game …..he just really knows how to play the game of baseball. He’s a baseball player’s baseball player and it bothers me sometimes to hear the criticsm of him.
Just a note about the brilliant fielding of MPB Johnny Damon
You can all go back to other posts now…
I’ve spotted a couple grizzled gents with the interlocking NY on their hats in the stands behind the plate, is one of them Pat M????
Laura,
Melky made the right play. Up 4-0 with Joba throwing darts there’s no reason to risk giving the Angels any momentum with a ball that could turn into a triple.
Just keep it in front – a single isn’t a big deal.
MG, you are rolling the dice either way aren’t you? I’d rather a manager err on the side of being aggressive, especially against a manager like Scioscia who you know is going to be aggressive. The Yankees always look flatfooted against this team for that reason, I’d like them to give them a taste of their own medicine for once!
Looked like a late jump by Melky; ball hung up but he couldn’t get to it.
As for Damon, it always seems to be a struggle for him to line up a fly ball.
I cheer for them both and I’ll take their flaws along with their strengths.
He has pulled the outside pitch twice in a row. What are you watching? They are using the shift on him LH, what are you a cheerleader?
I guess Jorge isn’t the only catcher who has trouble blocking 55 feet curve balls.
“Just a note about the brilliant fielding of MPB Johnny Damon”
Considering his play of late, that’s a good thing.
anyone really gonna bring their laptop to the beach and thus watch a yankees game online?
“they showed Joba’s last pitch at 89, it looked 94-95 to me.”
MG,
Your eyes are correct. The Yes gun is not even close. He’s sitting 93-94 on his four seam fastball.
para jodiendo Joba
“He has pulled the outside pitch twice in a row. What are you watching? They are using the shift on him LH, what are you a cheerleader?”
funny
9 pitches the first inning. 14 so far in this one.
CB – couldn’t agree more. I could have gone overboard and mentioned the blown call at 3B the other day too, which would mean they are tied, but let’s not get carried away right? And you can’t help but think good things for the near future, given Tex’s replacement of the Giambino.
S.A.–The sun will come out tomorrow; I’m down with the OPPC
July 10th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
anyone really gonna bring their laptop to the beach and thus watch a yankees game online?
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At my beach club, some people have satellite TV. I mysteriously always seem to go hang out in their cabanas during important game moments.
I will let you know if I see people watching games on laptops at the beach
Gameday had the last pitch to Napoli at 95. YES gun is way off.
I played college ball with tonights home plate ump CB Buckner and I must admit that he stinks as an ump. Has never called good games with Yanks. Torre was never a big fan.
His name in school was Cedric Buckner and he rarely played as a relief pitcher.
Oh Well
“anyone really gonna bring their laptop to the beach and thus watch a yankees game online?”
Not if I want it to work again.
Come on Ralphie-
Wave those pom-poms for Joba!
CB – by “couldn’t agree more” I wasn’t referring to your agreeing with me lol – but what you said in the earlier post.
Does Joba not have his slider today? I’ve seen mostly fastballs and curveballs from his so far.
Laura – And the Oscar goes to….Optimus Prime!!
July 10th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
“Just a note about the brilliant fielding of MPB Johnny Damon”
Considering his play of late, that’s a good thing
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I know Laura. I needed to give him that sout out cause the abuse he was getting on Wednesday made me sad
Has Eiland even approached Joba to just try to pitch as if he’s only going for two inning to see how long and far he can go until he gets tired? I’d rather 4 innings of lights out pitching from him than 5 of just brutal laboring. It’s really interesting to see Joba in 2007 and now Hughes in 2009 pitch with greater velocity and confidence when they know they won’t be going more than two innings. Did Nolan Ryan pace himself?
Go Joba!
:pompomwave:
Watching Joba pitch is brutal.
Ugh, that’s not what he needed.
Joba’s nibbling again. Stop that, Joba. Stop it right now.
Come on Joba! Put them away.
Stop nibbling. Attack the zone. Joba, you’re a wuss. Throw you’re stuff at 0-1, not 3-2, you turkey.
The lack of an emoticon for :pompomwave: was a bad omen.
Big out here..he must get Mathis..
how many pitches this inning ?
Jobber
Thought it was a good time to throw a change with the lefty up there.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 10th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
how many pitches this inning ?
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Too many
Nick in SF-
It was a noble effort
Nice strikeout.
“Does Joba not have his slider today? I’ve seen mostly fastballs and curveballs from his so far.”
It’s not that. Tonight he is actually attacking hitters rather than trying to fool the with a slider that they no longer are swinging at.
Even with that base hit from Mattews – 3-2 and Joba throws a 95 MPH fastball. They hit it, they hit it. Much better than walking him.
His pace is good. His fastball looks good. He has gotten a bit tentative again once a man got on base. He changed his approach.
Eialnd and Girardi should ream Joba out in the bottom of the inning.
His stuff is just better than this. This is Jaret Wright.
25 pitches so far this inning.
He’s just not the same pitcher. He’s an absolute mess right now.
Needed length from him tonight and it doesn’t look like he’ll be able to go more than five. Wow. Just wow.
35 pitches and rising for Jobber right now
Um can first inning Joba come back for the 3rd inning? Please? Is the velocity dropping or is the Yes gun just wrong?
Joba’s walks/IP is up ~50% from last year.
What a play by cano! That looked easy but it wasnt
Nice play Robbie
:wavepompoms:
joba’s velocity is good today….
good job getting out of the inning!
29 pitches that inning.
Yeesh, Joba. Let’s not have another one like that, k?
38 pitches total
Ugh, when was the last time Joba got out of the 2nd inning under 35 pitches?
Joba finally out of the inning.
okay inning
Sterling: Jeter flips to Cano for an inning ending play…
“Um can first inning Joba come back for the 3rd inning? Please? Is the velocity dropping or is the Yes gun just wrong?”
YES gun is wayyyy off…not even close
37 in 2 IP…*coughs* need to work quicker.
That pitch was clocked at 92 mph ? that YES gun is so off.
he got the last two outs pretty quickly, don’t you think this is being a little over critical?
Looking for silver linings, Joba got out of that inning relatively cheaply. He didn’t implode, but kept coming at them.
Looks like he needs to have faith in his own ability, and attack.
38 pitches. We might be looking at another 5 inning start.
Not sure what Pete’s talking about. Gameday has Joba’s velocity consistently at 94 that inning, even jumping up to 96 mph.
“Sterling: Jeter flips to Cano for an inning ending play…”
LMAO. Damn
Joba just looks completely pedestrian out there. You get the feeling that 4 runs won’t be enough.
Nice pitching to Aybar. He’s a light hitting #9 hitter. There’s men on base. Figgins up next.
Joba didn’t mess around. Threw 3 fastballs and change. The last fastball was 94 and he just sawed Aybar’s bat off. He pitched to induce contact knowing that Aybar’s not going to drive his good stuff.
Very nice play by Cano. What hands.
“Sterling: Jeter flips to Cano for an inning ending play…”
LMAO!!!
Inefficiency and lack of control is definitely the story of Joba’s 2009 season.
9 pitches thrown coming into the 2nd.
38 pitches thrown leaving the 2nd.
He’s(Joba) still 20 pitches lower,for same innings pitched.
“Sterling: Jeter flips to Cano for an inning ending play…”
Ummm- he was close. Let’s give him some credit. He had the right players
“Sterling: Jeter flips to Cano for an inning ending play…”
seriously??? I mean, that’s unacceptable right?
YES’s gun is way off. FSN has got him 93-95, spot on for him.
As much as this makes me want to hit something, we should remember how young Joba is. I took a gander at Felix Hernandez’s stats. He didn’t start out dominating either. It might take some time, which is why Joba is supposed to be our 5th starter. Unfortunately, Wang kind of messed things up, because Pettitte is just servicable at this point as a number 4.
Awwww.. I love that Moose is getting a Yankeeography
“he got the last two outs pretty quickly, don’t you think this is being a little over critical?”
I don’t know. We’ve seen Joba do this time and time again. It’s not a reach to predict the same behavior or the same outcome.
“Sterling: Jeter flips to Cano for an inning ending play…”
ok turkeys what really happened? i’m listening to the radio….
“UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Fluke it is. His velocity disappeared this inning. No better than 92 so far. 19 pitches so far, one out.”
pete the velocity part is definitly not true…mlb gameday begs to differ…he wasnt constantly 93-94 hitting 96
I miss Moose
Joba throws 9 pitches in the 1st inning and everyone is happy, he has a tougher inning and you jump down his throats. What balance…
““Sterling: Jeter flips to Cano for an inning ending play…”
“seriously??? I mean, that’s unacceptable right?”
Unacceptable and hysterical. Take your pick.
Eric
July 10th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
“Sterling: Jeter flips to Cano for an inning ending play…”
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Cano flipped to Jeter. Right players, wrong order.
And I am not a turkey. I just randomly gobble
“Joba just looks completely pedestrian out there. You get the feeling that 4 runs won’t be enough.”
the velocity isnt pedestrian today
re: first post of this thread…. i can see that joe saunders has licked his chops, and is now looking for some floss.
“Joba’s walks/IP is up ~50% from last year.”
There’s really nothing surprising about that. Joba is throwing more pitches, needs to locate better (and that is very much a work in progress), and needs to focus on more things that he did as a reliever. Power pitchers often struggle with walks in their first few seasons.
“Joba throws 9 pitches in the 1st inning and everyone is happy, he has a tougher inning and you jump down his throats. What balance…”
People’s reactions mirrors his performance. Jekyll and Hyde.
Quit panicing. Read what CB says. If CB panics, abandon ship, until then just stop.
Quick inning. Hopefully Joba brings out the good stuff.
“Cano flipped to Jeter. Right players, wrong order.”
Jeter is the DH tonight. Ransom is playing SS. So it really should have been: “Cano flips to Ransom…”
Erica
Jeter is DHing. Ransom is at SS
If Joba can get through six, that’s an improvement.
A little yellow truck with the WB Mason guy on it… Totally what I have always wanted.
i have the link to the game if anyone wants it
“He’s just not the same pitcher. He’s an absolute mess right now.
Needed length from him tonight and it doesn’t look like he’ll be able to go more than five. Wow. Just wow.”
rconn,
Those kind of innings from a 23 year old are more than acceptable, especially up 4 runs.
So far he’s looked nothing like what he did the past several games.
The past serveral games he’s had no pace and has thrown on slider after another and wasn’t attacking hitters.
His control could be better but he’s thrown 23 of 38 pitches for strikes and that’s fine.
He’s going after hitters tonight – and that’s been a big difference. He’s not nibbling nearly as much as he has been (though he started to when a man got on base).
He could be better – at the same time he’s been much better than his last couple of starts.
Let’s see how he does this inning as hitter come up for the second time. I want to see if he keeps attacking with his fastball or if he tries to get cute and starts with the endless breaking ball parade because he’s gone through the line up once.
3 easy outs by La,but pitch count is 72.
Moose Yankeeograhy.
Be good Jobber
Sterling: Dent flips to Randolph for the inning ending double play…
“Ummm- he was close. Let’s give him some credit. He had the right players”
Erica, Jetes is the DH tonight.
Erica – me too. I’ll never forget sitting in my Grandma’s living room on Cape Cod. She is a lifelong, die-hard, now 92 year-old Red Sox fan. We sat together and watched every single pitch of Mussina’s near perfect game – until that wonderful fellow Carl Everett had to ruin things when he was a strike away. Funny story though – I got some revenge – I went to school in Lancaster, PA where they built a really cool independent league ballpark. Carl Everett was on the visiting team (Lancaster’s team is called the Barnstormers). Anyway, it’s GA, very low-key – every now and then you get a washed up former MLB player. On one particular night it was Carl Everett. We had a great time harassing him about how he doesn’t believe in dinosaurs – he barked back at us a few times about how much money he made..
pat
July 10th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Erica
Jeter is DHing. Ransom is at SS
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HAHAHAHAHAHA. I blame the late start for my mistake. Also, when I am on my computer my back is to my TV. I really can’t actually see what is happening behind me so I am so busy typing to you good people.
Maybe I really am a turkey. Gobble Gobble
Nick in SF
Sterling: Dent flips to Randolph for the inning ending double play…
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Aaah, those were the days.
“Sterling: Dent flips to Randolph for the inning ending double play…”
LOL!! I wouldn’t put it past him.
Okay.. stop the bombing.
Erica is officially worse than John Sterling
Sterling > Erica. Happy now????
how does YES get a 94 mph fb mixed with 63?? how is that possible..that was 58 wth!
Two weakly hit balls. One lucky, one not so much. More of that, Joba.
YES for the love of god get a new gun, BTW Melky why are you playing so deep ?
I wish we still had Abreu. I’d take him over Swisher everyday and twice on Sunday.
Very good approach on that Figgins at bat.
Second time around the line up. Joba doesn’t fool around. Throws figgins two fastballs and induces weak contact.
That’s what Joba’s gotten away from – valuing weak contact.
Hitters have only swung at 20% of Joba’s pitches out of the zone – that is the lowest rate in the majors.
They are not buying what he’s selling with his slider anymore.
He needs to keep attacking with his fastball and trusting that he’ll induce weak contact more often than not.
Ransom wasn’t sure how the ball was thrown around the horn.
I can’t remember if Bobby was still with the Yankees,when Joba
was called up.
Dave
July 10th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Erica – me too. I’ll never forget sitting in my Grandma’s living room on Cape Cod. She is a lifelong, die-hard, now 92 year-old Red Sox fan. We sat together and watched every single pitch of Mussina’s near perfect game – until that wonderful fellow Carl Everett had to ruin things when he was a strike away. Funny story though – I got some revenge – I went to school in Lancaster, PA where they built a really cool independent league ballpark. Carl Everett was on the visiting team (Lancaster’s team is called the Barnstormers). Anyway, it’s GA, very low-key – every now and then you get a washed up former MLB player. On one particular night it was Carl Everett. We had a great time harassing him about how he doesn’t believe in dinosaurs – he barked back at us a few times about how much money he made..
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Thats awesome. I was drinking at a party in Albany that night. (I was a college student then). Everyone else was doing normal party stuff. I was glued to the TV with like, one other dude.
I left the part early sad
“I can’t remember if Bobby was still with the Yankees,when Joba
was called up.”
He was. Bobby played for 2.5 years with us. It seemed like longer.
It’s too bad Joba isn’t more of a groundball pitcher. Besides the deep counts, he also suffers from getting so few DPs.
That was a bit close.
Remember when Juan was a free-swinging stringbean wearing pinstripes? Seems like a lifetime ago.
haiku-man July 10th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
I can’t remember if Bobby was still with the Yankees,when Joba
was called up.
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He was
You could really put together a website with all of Sterling’s gaffes.
http://www.putsterlingouttopasture.com
Equal opportunity tweaking.
“On one particular night it was Carl Everett. We had a great time harassing him about how he doesn’t believe in dinosaurs – he barked back at us a few times about how much money he made..”
This cracked me up, big time.
Runner is distracted Joba
Great slider.
Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch better.
Much better inning
very good pitch joba…quality inning 14 pitches
Joba still 20 pitches under his counterpart.
“Bobby played for 2.5 years with us. It seemed like longer.”
Not to the right field wall. Those years flew right by!
He’s attacking more, working faster and his stuff is crisper than it’s been.
He’s not going to be Bullpen Joba people. Stop expecting perfection.
He looks much better tonight against a scrappy hitting team.
Hopefully, he can keep it up.
Jobber at 52 pitches
Erica – always OPPC
July 10th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
pat
July 10th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Erica
Jeter is DHing. Ransom is at SS
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HAHAHAHAHAHA. I blame the late start for my mistake. Also, when I am on my computer my back is to my TV. I really can’t actually see what is happening behind me so I am so busy typing to you good people.
Maybe I really am a turkey. Gobble Gobble
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Funny. Hey Erica come join the Lohud Yankee Blogger group site I started on facebook. Anyone else is welcomed.
http://www.facebook.com/home.p.....0459611724
They are not buying what he’s selling with his slider anymore.¨
When it’s dirtbound, yes. But if he can get it just a little down and inside to lefties and down and away to righties, they’ll start whiffing.
And as Juan just demonstrated, that slider’s good enough that he can get the K in the zone.
Absolutely great. Joba is now throwing sliders in the strike zone. Molina is toning him down.
Apparently, I’m the only person on the planet who actually likes John and Suzy. I mute the YES broadcast, and listen to the radio, because I actively enjoy the way they call the game. I don’t know why everyone hates him. He sees Jeter play shortstop day in and day out. It’s not that big of a deal that he misspoke. All broadcasters do it. He’s made a lot of mistakes this year, sure, but c’mon, cut the guy some slack. It’s not as if he doesn’t correct himself after he does it.
Erica – always OPPC
“Thats awesome. I was drinking at a party in Albany that night. (I was a college student then). Everyone else was doing normal party stuff. I was glued to the TV with like, one other dude.
I left the part early sad ”
Erica – oh man do i feel your pain. I should have added that my grandma had enough class to wince and say I’m sorry when Everett hit that single. I really believe that as time goes on we are all going to appreciate Moose so much more than we already do.
~SA
thank you I was too lazy to check!!
lol Cody’s bat just fell apart.
Joba has much better tempo tonight….Using his 93-94 heater to set up his offspeed pitches…great break to whiff Rivera…..Several scouts charting pitches tonight….
I don’t like you, Cody Ransom.
wow that was laughable.
Joba is pitching tonight.
He’s established his fastball and stayed away from the constant barrage of sliders.
The abreu at bat – he’s down 2-1 and he throws a change up. Past games I don’t see him doing that because he’d probably be afraid of speeding up Abreu’s bat. Abreu hit it hard but was out in front some and it’s only a deep fly ball.
That Rivera bat was terrific. Rivera is in the on deck circle watching Abreu get pitched to 2-1. He sees Joba throw a change rather than a slider. Rivera gets drives the count to 2-1 – and now Joba pulls out the slider and Rivera swings through it. Same thing on 2-2.
What was nice to see about that Rivera at bat was that Rivera wasn’t just expecting the slider. And hitters have been doing that a lot with Joba recently.
That at bat Rivera didn’t look like he had a strong sense of what Joba would throw at either 2-1 or 2-2.
That’s pitching.
Donnie-
I like Sterling too. He makes me laugh. For all of his mistakes, I consider him like a grandpa. Or an old sofa that is well worn, but perfectly broken in and comfy.
And I love the cheesy homerun calls. And of course, THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEEEEEEEES WIN!!!!
And exhale..
CB,
Of course young pitchers struggle, and Joba’s no
different. But he’s too good to go into so many deep counts.
With the exception of Abreu and Napoli, the Angels are a fre swinging team.
He’s attacking more tonight, but still nibbling too much.
He’s limited the damage though, so, so far so good. Gotta find a way to at least give em’ six innings tonight.
Nothing like a sub-.240 OBP batter to get a pitcher in his rhythm.
Pat M.,
Any Jays scouts there?
Pat M: are you wearing a light blue/green polo shirt and a Yankee cap????
Pat M is that you wearing that Tar Heel cap?
Abreu touched the wall! He ran full speed toward the wall!
Donnie,
If you can get over the fact that Sterling is addled, then yes he’s a fun listen.
I rather like Suzyn. Her accent is so colloquial.
One thing, though. She does this very muted grunt when she sees something she likes. Like after a nasty pitch. Like she’s in her own little private world.
“He’s attacking more, working faster and his stuff is crisper than it’s been.”
Then why are we getting the same results? His pitch count is still too high. They need him to go longer than 5 innings every time out. You’ve said that yourself, SJ.
Abreu. Touched. The. Wall.
Can’t Ramiro learn the OF in the majors? Ransom’s useless, and Pena can’t be worse than Swisher…or Damon.
Bobby
Oh, NOW he’s not afraid of the wall.
Dave-
I hope you are right. I was so happy for him when he finally got that 20th win.
Donnie – Will Meet Chone Figgins Under the O’Neill Banner
July 10th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
“On one particular night it was Carl Everett. We had a great time harassing him about how he doesn’t believe in dinosaurs – he barked back at us a few times about how much money he made..”
This cracked me up, big time.
Mark-Cant Touch T
Donne – No joke. He was in the on deck circle and he tried to be all cool and said “Let me ask you something. Do you know how much money I make? Then one of my friends had the presence of mind to say – whatever Carl, hit your next home run to the MOOOOON (apparently, he doesn’t believe in that either – the moon landing was a hoax, etc).
Derek now 3-3. Guess he likes that DH spot.
Bobby Abreu making a play he rarely makes these days.
Bad luck for Jose.
Right before he swung, Jeter said, “DH means, Derek’s Hot.” POW.
3 hits in the 4th inning, nice Jete. If that padding in right field wasn’t so soft he could have had an rbi
I with Donnie on listening to the games. Mistakes happen, but I prefer radio to TV…
and at least he didn’t do this:
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/
Yay Jeets!
3 hits for jeter and its only the 4th?…up to .320 now
you would think Jeter would be hitting like this next year.
Jeter is just murdering left handed pitching this year. Wow.
saunders might have found a “rhythm” as flaherty says but hes also found himself a 5 inning start chances are
Ranson can jump onto a 5 foot high wooden box without a running start……………not sure that makes him a major league baseball player………..
“When it’s dirtbound, yes. But if he can get it just a little down and inside to lefties and down and away to righties, they’ll start whiffing.”
But that’s the whole point. He’s trying to do the same thing he did in 2007 – throw sliders out of the zone and get hitters to chase.
They aren’t chasing that pitch anymore. If Joba wants to throw that slider he’ll need to evolve that pitch. He needs to trust it enough to throw it in the one.
The Rivera at bat was a great model.
Rivera struck out not primarly because of the slider – he struck out because Joba set up the slider by being aggressive the whole game with his fastball.
Abreu has always been adept at making a running backhanded catch off an angle.
Whoever said they’d take Abreu back for Swisher – uhh, yeah….!
Abreu is just a professional hitter, and Swish is a comparative amateur when it comes to knowing the strike zone and not even in the same league when it comes to pitch recognition.
He is just the consummate professional hitter.
No comparison between the two players, whatsoever.
The pitch count is a byproduct of a good hitting team fouling off a lot of pitches.
So far, he is attacking the zone more. That’s what you want from him. Pitch more to contact and he’s doing that so far this evening.
“He’s attacking more, working faster and his stuff is crisper than it’s been.
He’s not going to be Bullpen Joba people. Stop expecting perfection.
He looks much better tonight against a scrappy hitting team.
Hopefully, he can keep it up.”
I did notice that SJ.
Amazing that Angels team averages 3.87 pitches per AB they grind you.
“Donnie,
If you can get over the fact that Sterling is addled, then yes he’s a fun listen.
I rather like Suzyn. Her accent is so colloquial.
One thing, though. She does this very muted grunt when she sees something she likes. Like after a nasty pitch. Like she’s in her own little private world.”
He doesn’t overly-felate the Yankee players, and he calls the game down the middle. Just now, he was talking about how great a catch Abreu made. I’ve listened to a lot of broadcast teams because I have XM, and there isn’t a single team that calls the games as fairly as Sterling and Waldman. Say what you will about missing a call here and there, but Sterling calls the GAME, and doesn’t call the Yankees “the good guys”, or get overly annoyed when the Yankees don’t win like other hometeam announcers do. I appreciate that.
As for Suzy’s grunts…She does it a lot for good AND bad. I think it’s because she gets in to the game the same way we do, and can’t curse on the air, so she grunts, gets out her frustration/joy, and then moves on professionally.
I live in South Florida and actually get the Yankees broadcasts on a local radio station so I feel fortunate to get Sterling in my car. Get pre game and post game as well on yankee radio network driven by jeep.
Count me in as someone who enjoys the broadcasts.
Watching on Direct TV and Yes right now though which is better but have no problem tuning in while in car.
Isn’t this Vlad’s last year on his contract? I’d be surprised if LAA signs him again.
The Dodgers just scored 1 in the 9th to tie and then 6 in the 10th. Ouch.
Mike Napoli’s walk up music is “I’m On a Boat”? LOL
In New York State it’s illegal to not wear a seat belt, talk on the cell phone, or listen to John Sterling while driving.
Follow the law. Save lives.
“He’s not going to be Bullpen Joba people.”
I wonder if he even could be Bullpen Joba now if he was in the pen. He just seems so hittable and average.
And now he allows a lead-off hit in the fourth…
Even if it’s a ball, I like when Joba goes back to the fastball on an 0-2 pitch.
“Whoever said they’d take Abreu back for Swisher – uhh, yeah….!”
That was me, bod. I was always a big fan of Abreu. I hope he does well in LAA.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
July 10th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
In New York State it’s illegal to not wear a seat belt, talk on the cell phone, or listen to John Sterling while driving.
Follow the law. Save lives.
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Umm.. Yeah, I have never taken both hands off the wheel to clap while driving or anything like that….
“whatever Carl, hit your next home run to the MOOOOON.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…Oh man. That’s fantastic.
How…do you not believe in dinosaurs? I mean, I’ll give you the moon landing, because a LOT of people don’t believe that, so…I mean…it’s an established conspiracy. But…I mean…who doesn’t believe in dinosaurs?
“I’m Carl Everett, and I don’t believe in…uh…SANDWICHES. Yeah. That’s it. There is no such thing as peanut butter and jelly. All a myth, man. You know why? BECAUSE I MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.”
“I wonder if he even could be Bullpen Joba now if he was in the pen. He just seems so hittable and average.”
hes throwin 95 mph…what is average about that…dont look at the YES gun it is wrong
Cashman played the Abreu situation as well as he could. He didn’t pay the man 16 million in arbitration, and he got Swisher, who while he is not quite as good as Abreu, is quite comparable to his production while he was here. Don’t be fooled by batting average.
lol 0-2
Can Joba please just get a DP?
here they come.
I do not like how this inning is going. Is Joba on the good-every-other inning plan???
:wavepompoms:
Joba’s problem hasn’t been walks so much as hits. He’s missing within the strike zone, mostly up, like that one.
Joba so far: 3 3 1 1 1 3. 52 pitches / 32 strikes.
Can someone explain these numbers to me? I’ve never understood that line of numbers and what they mean.
“Don’t be fooled by batting average.”
Abreu’s BA has nothing to do with it. He’s a better player than Swisher in every facet of the game.
“Joba so far: 3 3 1 1 1 3. 52 pitches / 32 strikes.
Can someone explain these numbers to me? I’ve never understood that line of numbers and what they mean.”
ip hits runs earned runs walks k’s
Carl Everett doesn’t believe that the Angels have two men in scoring position.
thanks for the bunt and 1 pitch out
Scioscia you sneaky devil you.
Better perhaps, but not by the difference between what he would have been paid as a Yankee and what Swisher is earning. Oh, and should I need to remind you that Swisher kept us alive during April?
My pompoms totally saved that inning for Joba!!!!!!!!!
Good Robbie!
Cano with the leaping grab! Inning over.
That scared me…I thought that might drop in for a hit.
Nice to get two 1-pitch outs there.
Yeah, those are the kind of breaks you get when you are going well. I’ll take it!
Mathis just bailed out the yankees in a big way.
That’s just not thinking at the plate.
Joba completely over powered Aybar that first at bat.
Can’t put down a bunt like that in front of the 9 hole hitter.
And that’s why bunting with one out is stupid.
“No comparison between the two players, whatsoever.”
You said that after comparing the two players.
Bobby always had a happy smile when he drew the Kim Jones interview after a game. Good guy.
Nice play, Robi!
whew
CB was right about weak contact. But do broken bats count?
Bailed out with those last 2 outs on 1 pitch each.
thank you robbie….that would of been one of those really painful sawed off bat jobs..i hate those
wait..he got out of a 1st and 2nd no outs situation with no runs??? is that even allowed
well he is not dominant but he is improving
This is important here. He has to get Aybar and keep this game at 4-1.
Important time for Joba and Cano makes a great play.
Joba made a quality pitch there. It would have been bad luck if that ball dropped.
Jobber at 68 pitches
Finally, Joba is throwing the slider inside to RH hitters. About time – a slider is very similar to a cutter. Model yourself on Mo, Joba.
Abreu is a horrible RF defensively. Not just bad – horrible. He’s a DH now.
Swisher might not be Ichiro in RF but he’s a much better RF than Abreu. Abreu just doesn’t have much range at all anymore.
“Better perhaps, but not by the difference between what he would have been paid as a Yankee and what Swisher is earning. Oh, and should I need to remind you that Swisher kept us alive during April?”
I’ll agree that the market did not dictate 16mil for Abreu. However, we could have gotten him much cheaper after the bottom fell out of the FA market. And as for Swisher keeping us alive during April, what has he done since then? I don’t fall for guys that have one hot month. If he wants to impress me, how about playing well the entire season?
Oh, and Kung Fu Panda just went deeeeeeep in SF. He should be an All-Star!
Sterling calls a fair game but it doesnt make up for the horrendous play by play and missed calls. He has a GREAT voice, but completely miss uses it. Guys like Joe Miller, the Texas radio guys, and more call the game with flair but describe the situation. They call the pitch types as they are thrown, describe beautifully the situation on the field, and don’t often make the kinds of mistakes Sterling does.
How many pitches has Joba thrown? This is like Chinese Water torture…..
RalphieD (OPPC)
July 10th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
thank you robbie….that would of been one of those really painful sawed off bat jobs..i hate those
wait..he got out of a 1st and 2nd no outs situation with no runs??? is that even allowed
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It was because I waved my magical, imaginary pompoms
I do not miss Abreu.
Swisher is also younger (thus more likely to produce for several more years) and more versatile than Abreu. Their fielding is a wash. Both are below-average. Abreu has terrible range at this point in his career. Swisher never really had any.
Earl Weaver would strangle Mathis if he were his manager for bunting and giving up that out.
Wow, 68 pitches in the 4th? Joba’s lucky if he gets through 5 or 6………
Joba still 19 pitches under.
“I’ll agree that the market did not dictate 16mil for Abreu. However, we could have gotten him much cheaper after the bottom fell out of the FA market.”
No, we could not have done that. The Yankees did not offer him arbitration. Had they done so, Abreu would have accepted, and been paid around his previous year’s salary.
this one is GONE!
damn
AN A-BOMB FROM A-ROD!
Gone
WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A-Rod with the pop-up homerun
Haha a half-swing HR by Arod.
Alex hit NYS HR
how did arod hit that out? he barely swung
who would had thought A-Rod’s shot was a homer?
HR for Alex. Yea Alex.
“Swisher might not be Ichiro in RF but he’s a much better RF than Abreu. Abreu just doesn’t have much range at all anymore.”
CB, I know you’ve been watching the games. Perhaps you’ve forgotten the several air mail jobs to home that Swisher has delivered this season. I don’t ever remember Abreu blowing throws by that much. I’ll give you that Bobby let a lot of balls drop in front of him that I thought he should have caught, but his arm is much better than Swisher and his baseball sense is better as well.
Alex!
Launching pad!
“He should be an All-Star!”
On strength of nickname alone.
Alex!! How did that ball go out. It looked like a half swing.
Laura – And the Oscar goes to….Optimus Prime!!
July 10th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
“Whoever said they’d take Abreu back for Swisher – uhh, yeah….!”
That was me, bod. I was always a big fan of Abreu. I hope he does well in LAA.
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Remember that backhanded running catch in the rain in the RCF gap? The game where ARod went opposite on Papeljuice.
I call that running catch The Hand of God. What a brilliant play it was. Admittedly, Abreu is no longer a competent defensive player – but he has played way better this year for the Angels. They had him playing LF earlier on and he was making plays I hadn’t seen him make in a few years.
I’ll always appreciate him and root for him, too.
Is it me or does Saunders look like a younger Schilling?
Don’t expect domination. Look for improvement.
How many 23 year old starting pitchers in MLB are dominant? The answer is zero.
That folks, is strength from Arod.
Think Saunders is thinking about roids right now?
Alex Rodriguez is just sick. My goodness. He is just unbelievable with a bat in his hand.
How the heck did he hit that ball out – never mind hitting it out to CF?
Unreal. That was a very good change up down in the zone. Alex had shifted his weight too soon and was fooled on that pitch.
Just amazing.
Nice stroke.
Double
Should have said at Fenway on the Abreu catch.
double for Cano
Wow – Kenny was right – “Wait till you see this replay” he said.
I’m going to regret saying this, but Manny hit a home run like that in the NLCS last year against the Phils. I remember being wowed when I saw him reach down for a curve ball and drive it out – but sadly, and I can’t help it, I’m not wowed by that anymore.
How on earth did A-Rod hit that ball out?
Amazing what kind of power that dude generates.
That is sheer talent. Sheer talent from A-Rod.
That was not a bad pitch at all.
Well that’s three pulled outside pitches for Teix. Keep doing the same thing Teix, things will be different.
What an insult to Cody Ransom!!
c’mon Cody, make them pay….
“I do not miss Abreu.”
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Maybe not the defense so much, but I miss all those RBI’s he got.
Cody has to earn respect.
Kung Fu Panda 2-3 with a three run jack for the Giants. Guy should have won the Final Vote.
That tells you how bad randsom sucks!
“but his arm is much better than Swisher and his baseball sense is better as well.”
I really liked Abreu too and was sad to see him go, but I have to argue this one. Abreu never deserved the Gold Glove he earned in Philly, his range went the way of his power as he aged, and his arm isn’t much better than Swisher’s at this point. And again, Swisher is YOUNGER. That means less injury risk, more probability of sustained production, and more athleticism left to lose.
Great homerun by Arod. Such power and strength. Poor Ransom. They are intentionally walking Melky to get to him to end the inning.
Saunders pitch count must be up there now. Anyone know what it is?
Make ‘em pay, Cody.
YANKEERAY – are you by chance going to the Yankees Rays series end of July at the Trop?
They are afraid of Ransom. LOL
“No, we could not have done that. The Yankees did not offer him arbitration. Had they done so, Abreu would have accepted, and been paid around his previous year’s salary.”
I’m not expert on off season business, but after we denied him arbitration, I believe we could have signed him later as an FA. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
Joba should be able to throw 100-110 pitches.
It’s July. His pitch count should get him 2 more innings if he does his job.
“They call the pitch types as they are thrown, describe beautifully the situation on the field, and don’t often make the kinds of mistakes Sterling does.”
Sterling calls the pitches, too, and I never have a hard time figuring out what’s going on down on the field.
And I’m pretty sure the Texas guys are the ones that describe the team uniforms EVERY FRIGGIN’ GAME in excessive detail. “The Yankees, wearing their gray road uniforms, with New York across the chest in navy blue, blue hats with the interlocking NY, black shoes, and navy blue socks.” I can’t STAND that.
I mean, if you don’t like the mistakes, fine. I can understand that. Personally, I think the rest of his calling style more than compensates, because I can’t stand listening to other, “homer” broadcast teams.
“How many 23 year old starting pitchers in MLB are dominant? The answer is zero.”
Actually, there is one. Felix Hernandez. But it took him a while.
Gonna walk Ransom? hahaha
Now he is about to UNintentionally walk Ransom. Payback is nice.
So, is Alex done yet? Buster?
I’m sorry, Laura, but I remember Abreu playing RF for us last year, and, CB is right, he was horrid. Balls dropping in front of him, afraid of the wall, and a strong but inaccurate arm. Oh, yeah, and for the middle of the season he was pretty bad at the plate before getting hot in September.
“How on earth did A-Rod hit that ball out?
Amazing what kind of power [that dude] generates.”
PED’s
SJ & CB,
as much as a Ransom supporter that I could be, how about the Yanks acquiring Felipe Lopez due to his bat, defense and verstile?
Erica,
Saunders is at 105.
“And again, Swisher is YOUNGER. That means less injury risk, more probability of sustained production, and more athleticism left to lose.”
Yes, he is younger. That gives him many more years to strike out at an alarming rate.
Wow, he took a fastball right down the throat.
And again, Swisher is YOUNGER. That means less injury risk, more probability of sustained production, and more athleticism left to lose.
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As a guy playing every day in the OF, it was time to say good bye.
But if he had no DH (instead of a million of them), I would have wanted him back. He is just an intelligent, superb hitter.
Way too close to take should have fouled that off.
I still hate you, Cody Ransom.
Ransom needs an upgrade of his person.
If “we” had no DH
That was pathetic.
What was he looking for? Take the bat off your shoulders.
NICE! Ransom is the man!!!!
Cody Cody Cody… don’t expect me to save you from the guillotine every game.
I’m diggin this game so far.Yankees show no fear against lefties.Somebody’s scouting report is wrong.
106 pitches for LA,THRU 5 WOW!
I’m sorry. I don’t get it…Send Ransom down and bring back Pena.
“Saunders pitch count must be up there now. Anyone know what it is?”
end of 5: 106
Cody thumbs down
how does ransom look at a 3-2 fastball right down the middle?
Okay, Kenny says “not too many players can hit a ball like this” – I hate not being able to love that comment.
Yes, he is younger. That gives him many more years to strike out at an alarming rate.
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Lol. I don’t dislike Swisher. But these are two separate leagues of hitter here.
I have to say again, that was so, very, very, very, bad.
Really just… ewwwwww.
Laura,
You’re right – Bobby has a much better arm than Swisher. But compared to the number of balls where range comes into play, OF throwing just doesn’t come into play as an important factor nearly as much.
Bobby just systematically doesn’t get to that many balls. As you observed yourself – balls fall in front of him alot. And we know he was never good going back on balls. He turns what should be outs into base hits. That hurts a lot. Far more than the marginal advantage his arm provides.
I like Bobby a lot and appreciate what he did for the Yanks. He’s a terrific player.
But last year the yankees were one of the three worst defensive teams in baseball.
This year they are league average. They are saving a ton of runs just by being mediocre defensively as a team rather than being horrible.
And one of the biggest reasons why was letting Abreu go. Now that’s not a complement to Swisher – as he’s basically average to below average in RF. Replacing Abreu with nearly anyone not names Hawpe would have been a big step up.
“I’m sorry, Laura, but I remember Abreu playing RF for us last year, and, CB is right, he was horrid.”
No need to apologize. We can disagree here. We’re not going to change each others minds. I will always feel that Abreu was a valuable member of the Yankees and that he would have been a better option than Swisher. People don’t agree and that’s okay. I’m sure Abreu agrees with me though.
Just can’t take that pitch in that situation.
A brutal AB by Ransom.
Abreu is better than Swisher, but that’s not saying much.
Although Swisher’s a better fielder, no?
Ransom, Go Home!
Abreu’s two full years in NY:
.283/.369/.445
.296.371.471
Swisher in a half-season: .239/.369/.470
Again, don’t be fooled by batting average. Swisher’s been better at drawing walks thus far than Abreu.
hmm… positive. hmmm… this is gonna be tough with Ransom.
I got it. Our SS tonight has not grounded into a DP.
Alex drove a pitch down and on the outer part of the plate and 1-ironed it over the cf wall….As soon as he hit it you just knew….Most guys roll over on that pitch..Saunders just shook his head….Really was a great pitch…Chone Figgins looks like Willie Randolph’s brother..
I don’t see how it’s Ransom’s fault that the Yankees are willing to let him man 3B.
The guy isn’t hate-able, he’s just inappropriate, lol.
Sterling calls the pitches, too, and I never have a hard time figuring out what’s going on down on the field.
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No he doesn’t, he says
“And the pitch.”
He might go back and explain what pitch it was after, but listen to Jon Miller on the radio. I was checking out Timmys no no bid and he was calling the ball out of Timmy’s hand.
And he just doesnt do a good job in describing the action. Too many catchphrases.
I’d like to get Alex Rios for RF. His defense is fantastic and he’s far more athletic than Swish.
After watching Joba for the past few parts the problem with his pitch count seems to stem from the fact that NOBODY is chasing his 2 strike waste pitches. He needs to attack the strike zone on that putaway pitch.
“Chone Figgins looks like Willie Randolph’s brother..”
now that you mentioned, he does.
Swisher wasn’t brought in to replace Bobby Abreu. He was acquired for Wilson Betemit and he wasn’t supposed to be an everyday player.
I think the Jeterman would have gotten that
Ransom wants to hide under a rock.
And I’d love him to.
The Curse of Chone Figgins strikes again.
“Now that’s not a complement to Swisher – as he’s basically average to below average in RF.”
Okay, now you’re just being kind.
“I’d like to get Alex Rios for RF. His defense is fantastic and he’s far more athletic than Swish.”
did HBK kick you once too many times? Now why would the Jays deal Rios within the divison?
Dan
July 10th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
YANKEERAY – are you by chance going to the Yankees Rays series end of July at the Trop?
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No I am coaching my 13 yr old sons travel baseball team in a WBC version for 13 yr olds in Miami. Pretty cool as there will be 11 International teams there.
Chone Figgins looks like Willie Randolph’s brother..
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I have always noticed the resemblance. But if you keep looking at Figgins, it sort of goes away, because Figgy has a sort of wolfish thing going on. Randolph has happier eyes. Randolph was my favorite position player back in the 80s.
And that is why I will be meeting Figgins under the ONB.
Where were the ups there….. I know he couldn’t get that but why not pick on him some more.
“as much as a Ransom supporter that I could be, how about the Yanks acquiring Felipe Lopez due to his bat, defense and verstile?”
I know Ransom is the 25th man on the team.
But it’s enough now.
That was a completely unprofessional major league at bat.
Ransom was clearly just praying for a walk.
If that’s the kind of at bat you are having that he major league level you just aren’t a major leaguer – even as a 25th man.
That’s a bad pitch selection. Don’t speed up Figgins bat. Just finish.
That’s the Bad Joba rearing it’s ugly head.
figgins you pest
“Again, don’t be fooled by batting average. Swisher’s been better at drawing walks thus far than Abreu.”
He also strikes out more than Bobby did. What’s your point?
Bret, I’ve ong been intrigued by Rios. Wonder what Cash and Girardi think.
At this point I would bring Jeter back in at short and let the pitcher bat as Ransom stinks. Bring back Pena after the break.
Joba, if you make it out of the 5th, try not to let the lead-off batter on base in the 6th.
Just a suggestion.
Joba may never become efficient as a starter because he has a very average 90 mph fastball. Guys aren’t going to swing and miss on that pitch.
Yankeeray- Wow that is impressive congrats. Missing a sure to be good series, I always enjoy when the Yanks come down to St. Pete.
Cervelli would have had him
“Swisher wasn’t brought in to replace Bobby Abreu. He was acquired for Wilson Betemit and he wasn’t supposed to be an everyday player.”
You are right again, Nick. He was brought in just in case we didn’t get Tex for 1B. Having seen Swisher play 1B, all I have to say is Thank God for Mark Texiera!!
He looks out to me
“He also strikes out more than Bobby did. What’s your point?”
When you’re talking about 110 Ks vs. 140 Ks, the walks matter.
he was clearly out
another blown call by the umps
Dude was out. Nice job blue.
bad call, yet again
He was out
That’s a bad call. He was out by about a foot.
He was out. Geez, I know the umps are allowed to make mistakes but it seems like they’re barely 50:50 on the really close calls.
The guy should have been DFA’d upon returning from the DL. I’m sorry, but Cash needs to do the dirty work and just DFL him even if Girardi doesn’t like it………forget the at bat, I’m tired of him in the field. He’s got one job to do and he can’t even do that.
The Yanks give this kid a 5-1 lead and he’s having a hard time with it – what would be wrong with an easy inning?
Joba is looking good tonight. Looks like we have our fourth starter and we can just worry about number 5.
He was out. Another blown call. Can’t these guys get ANY calls right on the bases anymore?
He was out
He looked out there, pretty good throw by Jose
the throw beat him.
Just out of curiosity – does anyone know precisely how the “umpire-grading-system” we hear about works? I’m not saying one isn’t in place, but just wondering.
The ump mutters under his breath… that one was for our pal Brotha Foster. We don’t need no stinkin tag.
Shocker, an umpire missing a call!
It’s a joke that these guys think they are above the game and keep fighting replay. Isn’t your job to get the call right?
Once again another poor call by the umpires.
Eventually they have to stat looking at the plays as they happen rather than just depending on rules of thumb.
It’s a joke. They simply called him safe because the tag was “high.”
But that doesn’t account for the fact that Ransom was on the right side of second base and the “high” tag reached figgins before his foot hit the bag.
It’s like umpiring by stereotype.
What sucks is that the Yankees can’t afford to let Joba get through 5 or 6 because they have a game to win – he’s a bullpen killer.
What sucks is that the Yankees can’t afford to let Joba get through 5 or 6 because they have a game to win – he’s a bullpen killer.
The throw beat him so he’s out. Isn’t that the new rule in baseball?
CB – Flaherty said he’s forcing contact – you were way ahead of him. Bravo.
Laura,
Swisher has a cooler haircut.
As a PH and bench player, Swish would be more than adequate, and a huge step up from Betemit. He’s a switch hitter who can play corner OF, CF in a pinch, 1B, with HR power and who can draw a walk. Pretty good for that role.
why is flaherty saying his fb is average today…93-97 hes been…come on john look at gameday….
and that calls hurts even more now
Well that sucks.
Runs like that irritate me. Never should have happened, because Figgins was clearly out. Just no reason for it.
and the assist goes to the umpires
And AS USUAL, a blown call costs the Yankees a run. Another shocker.
These umpires need to be held accountable, it’s embarrassing.
Why must blown ump calls always come back to hurt us?
Thanks umps
I may be late to the party on this, but I just found channel 632 on DirecTV which has the bonus cam. It is focused on Dave Eiland for some reason.
Abreu exacts his revenge. LOL! His ears must have been ringing.
Another one of those “he pitched better than his line suggests” nights, eh?
I still can’t believe how Al hit that ball out, it wasn’t even a full committed swing, makes you wonder why he ever thinks about pulling the ball.
P.S. this Angels team can hit period.
Joba keeps using that little inside move to no effectiveness ever. He might as well just do a timing play to second and pick off. He does that move about 2 out of 5 times someone is on second and it’s never fooled anyone.
Umpire run there. Joba has to bear down now and not allow any more runs this inning.
Donnie – Will Meet Chone Figgins Under the O’Neill Banner
July 10th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Runs like that irritate me. Never should have happened, because Figgins was clearly out. Just no reason for it.
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We all know that. Unfortunately we cannot asterick the box score
Come on Joba!!!!
:wavepompoms:
Do some of you guys need to whine ALL the time….man.
“Swisher has a cooler haircut.”
Um, if you say so. LOL!
Blown call on the bases and a single leads to a run. At least it’s only 2ER for Joba.
“why is flaherty saying his fb is average today…93-97 hes been…come on john look at gameday….”
That’s why I wish Coney were doing this game.
I suppose it was too much to hope for Joba to cruise through this weakened lineup. After all, they are the Angels, and they are the Yankees.
Joe from Long Island July 10th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Bret, I’ve ong been intrigued by Rios. Wonder what Cash and Girardi think.
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The fact that they’re shopping Halladay and want to dump Wells says alot. They obviously want to trim payroll.
While I don’t see them trading Halladay within the division, Rios is a different story.
The Yankees have some nice chips to offer the Blue Jays for Rios. If I’m Cashman, I call the Jays and tell them that I’m willing to build a package centered around Zachary McAllister for Alex Rios.
I love how the Angels broadcast team don’t even mention the fact that Figgins may have been out at 2nd. Instead they focus on how hard he slid and how great a jump he got. They replayed the slide/tag numerous times as well.
I hate being in the Angels market – blacks out YES. I’m actually resigned to watching the game on directv channel 720 because I can get the YES feed on the tiny thumbnail.
“He was out. Another blown call. Can’t these guys get ANY calls right on the bases anymore?”
I think the umps are out to get the Yanks, after that incident last week. just saying….
If Joba gives up more runs, I still don’t want to hear about the umpire’s blown call – that doesn’t give him license to make crappy pitches……..
Tough break there, Joba, but part of being a professional is working through bad stuff like that.
What is Joba doing?
A good throw would have had him easily.
Now, see, THAT was actually a stolen base.
You know this Bobby Abreu guy is a free agent after this year. Just sayin
Joba, hold the runners …
Okay, while Joba isn’t Juir Juirjjens bad at holding runners, he’s pretty weak in that regard.
Funny, that 2-2 pitch was right over the plate.
Again, an umpire not calling the game and instead using an “unwritten rule.”
I think 6 innings for joba i dont see it
>What is Joba doing?
He’s doing what he does mediocre.
oh…my…god….safe to say joba is getting screwed lol
A-Rod doesn’t help Joba there.
This could lead to a meltdown.
John Flaherty needs to do be more aware in the booth.
He keeps saying that Joba’s fastball is “average” tonight. Maybe he’s referring to location – but listening to him I get the sense that he’s referring to velocity.
And if that’s the case he’s only saying that based on the YES gun -which is useless.
Joba’s average fastball tonigh is 94 MPH. That’s far above average.
When Cone does the games he has Gameday up on his computer. That’s what he uses to refer to velocities.
That’s not asking a lot of an announcer.
come on Jobber
Another one of those “he pitched better than his line suggests” nights, eh?”
That’s what happens when umps make bad calls and your defense makes errors.
“If I’m Cashman, I call the Jays and tell them that I’m willing to build a package centered around Zachary McAllister for Alex Rios.”
TOR wants to keep Rios. They still believe in him.
Oh, for the love of…
Keep the friggin’ wheels on, guys, would ya?
How anyone can fault Joba is beyond me. A missed call, TWICE, costs him 2 outs, and an error now to extend the inning even further.
If Joba cannot get through the next inning, I think we’re going to have the Brett Tomko Experience. I’d really like to avoid that if at all possible.
Good try Tex. Errors by players and umpires are going to make this Joba’s last inning.
Ouch. I smacked myself in the forehead on that error
This is a tough team. They run on everybody.
And the Yankees now begin their Anaheim fade.
This lead will gone soon. Another bad error.
TA-DA!
And meltdown is complete…
meltdown on cue
Joba isn’t the “minimize damage” type of guy.
Well that sucks
i cant believe this..
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Amazing
Damn Joba
But he was soooooooooooooo impressive.
Really? We all had to see that coming. I know Alex made the error. But I always feel bad for the player that made an error because they must feel guilty.
WOW!
Again, Joba’s pitching line will say 4 ER but it should be 1 ER with if Figgins was called out and Arod didn’t make an error.
Who was it that was saying that this was a better start for Joba?
I’ve lost it with Joba. Send him to Toronto in a package for Halladay.
Oh lord.
Like I said, this is not Joba’s fault.
2 of the 3 runs that scored in this inning were the result of missed calls, and the inning would have been over with no runs if the umps got either of them right.
Angels baseball, they punch back.
Who knows if theyd even want him at this point.
Oh Joba
Way to pick up your teammate Joba. This kid is just not a good SP right now. SPs do not average 5 IP per start.
well it couldn’t be that easy
blow call at 2nd and error by arod…give any team extra chances and they will hurt you…you cant make 5 outs an inning
And off the wheels come.
Joba needs to learn to bear down and get past mistakes. Inning should have been over, if not for a terrible call and an error, but it wasn’t, and you can’t just hang balls to guys because you aren’t getting calls.
is that fog?
He’s got to find a way to stop the damage. Bad luck and a bad call, but he’s not the first pitcher who has had to deal with this.
Okay bye Joba. Goodness!
Joba in a full blown meltdown. This is a lineup WITHOUT Hunter OR Vlad.
# Laura – And the Oscar goes to….Optimus Prime!! July 11th, 2009 at 12:00 am
“If I’m Cashman, I call the Jays and tell them that I’m willing to build a package centered around Zachary McAllister for Alex Rios.”
TOR wants to keep Rios. They still believe in him.
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For the right price, they might change their minds.
It’s too bad that Ransom is the backup shortstop instead of “Pena — a much better fielder, better base-runner, and, so far this year, has even been a better hitter. (small sample sizes, granted.)
It’s not easy to see how it does the Yanks any good if Pena learns to play the outfield. Too many better hitters would be used in the outfield before him. The only theory I can come up with is that if Melky or Gardner were traded or injured, the Yanks might hope to use Pena as the backup CF.”
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He’ll play, and get a chance in the outfield. Thats not all he’ll be playing you know. They said super utility because aside from learning the OF, he can play 3b, 2b, SS, & I wouldn’t be surprised if the kid could play 1st.
This experiment- it’s no fun watching, I’ll tell you that much.
God Joba is terrible. I can’t wait to hear his “You cant boo me because I’m trying hard” speech after the game.
meltdown
The king of the No Decision strikes again.
Joba in the bullpen looks better all the time.
And Joba is done. I don’t like this 5 inning crap he’s been giving us start after start. Especially when it’s almost never a good 5 innings either.
I honestly hate Joba!!!!!!!!!!!!
i really don’t want francessa to be right about Joba
bye joba. see you in 5 days for another 4 1/3 innings. k, cya. take care pal.
joba, you used to be an exciting pitcher to watch, now it’s an extremely painful experience
Time for a bit of reassessment here. Joba needs some work in the minors–this is simply atrocious.
Blowing a 3-0 lead? After a 9 pitch first inning. Enough already–this isn’t preschool–it’s the majors.
Terrible, just terrible… Toronto, answer the phone…
<<<utterly shocked and baffled
By his standards he pitched great, this time he got to the 4th inning.
vin: I suspect Joba looked better on channel 720 than he did on the full-screen.
“How anyone can fault Joba is beyond me. A missed call, TWICE, costs him 2 outs, and an error now to extend the inning even further.”
And that’s when a good pitcher digs in and gets through it. What did he do? Give up two bombs, one for a HR.
Joba: I thought I pitched good.
I can’t wait.
SO help me if he says “they hit good pitches…I thought I threw the ball well” tonight he should be optioned to Scranton.
Fortunately, the Yankees brass is aware that young starters, especially power pitchers, often have inconsistent results in their first couple of years, and won’t do something stupid like attempting to trade him for a 32-year old with a ton of miles on his arm.
whoever made this guy a starter. He was dominant in the bullpen and mediocre at best as a starter.
Joba was two pitchers tonight. One with the bases empty. One with men on base.
With no one on base he was agressive and attacked. Not much hard contact.
But as men got on base he reverted back to bad habits. He started to go back to the slider and breaking stuff too much and started to nibble again.
That home run pitch was a poor one. Once again gets hurt on his breaking ball.
He got too spooked of the rinky dink base hits the angels got off his fastball.
And when he got in trouble he reverted back to the bad habits where he feels much too comfortable within.
Joba is a bullpen guy not a starter even Flash is calling him out. and enough of this is not his fault he is given a 5-1 lead and he chokes, It’s about time to unleash Hughes in the second half and put joba in his place in the bullpen.
Baloney this is not Joba’s fault. He has no plan. He wastes too many pitches and makes the defense off balance. Joba is not a starter. Now now. He needs to learn in AAA who to pitch.
Well if it wasn’t for a certain 3rd basemen, we’d still have a 5-2 lead.
Matt
July 11th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Like I said, this is not Joba’s fault.
It is Joba’s fault though, your supposed to pick up your teammates when they make a mistake, he left a curveball hanging right over the plate that was crushed to the black seats. That’s inexcusable with a 3 run lead and runners on.
Pathetic……….no excuses for Joba, none. We have to keep him in the rotation but he’s a bullpen killer. I don’t care about the umps bad call – awful performance.
Good pitches pitch around miss calls and errors
It IS Joba’s fault. He still picks and picks and tries to be too cutesy. I’m not ready to give up on him but he needs to have a new one torn for him.
Hey I heard Mike Francesca saying I told you so….. a-hole joba is a work in progress I say keep him in the rotation….. just to see Francesca blow up hahahahaha,…..
Joba has not made any progress at all this season. He’s gone downhill.
His mechanics stink, and he’s all arm. He doesn’t use his leg and his trunk to generate enough power.
I’m really starting to lose faith in him.
And as usual, Joba gives the Yankees his 4.2 IP per start.
the post game comments from the scholar pitcher should be enlighted.
yea blame it on another catcher.
nice fielding play by arod, what a joke. nice watching strike 3 right down the middle by ransom, what was he thinking???
joke
Anyone else get the feeling that he’s pitching himself out of the rotation?
Or are we all too hyper-sensitive?
He is not a good starting pitcher right now. He’s a Ian Kennedy with a K pitch at the moment.
Some of you still want to think its Posada’s fault?
and it gets better because here is melancon and if hes not perfect you all get to whine about that too!!! yay!!!
Welcome to Saturday morning baseball folks
Again, not Joba’s fault one bit.
Ransom doesn’t even go for a pop up Jeter probably catches to start it off. Then Figgins is thrown out at 2nd, called safe. Then a missed 3rd strike on Rivera and an error by A-Rod, and then one bad pitch.
Joba should have been out of this inning with 0 or 1 runs, period. Say all you want about his mistake pitch this and that, but 2 of the 3 runs in that inning were only on base as the result of missed calls.
This is what happens when you don’t take teams seriously and run guys like Ransom out there, a guy who has no business being in the major leagues let alone in a game. It won’t show up in the box score, but this guy has killed at least 2-3 rallies tonight and his non play to lead off this inning set up a huge rally.
Morales was sitting on that get me over fast ball….Tee it up…Get Joba on the ropes and it’s a TKO….
Cant wait for Joba to tell us how good he was tonight. What a joke send him to triple a.
Can we finally get Joba out of the starting rotation and give Hughes a shot at the spot.
“The king of the No Decision strikes again.”
I like your optimism.
That lead sure went away in a hurry. The error by Alex hurt but Joba needs to pick up his teammate.
What is the deal with this guy? He has great stuff and he pitches like he is the old guy from Major League. I can’t wait to hear his postgame tonight – “I had good stuff, just have to tip your cap.” Roy where are you?
While we are worried about announcers, Joba does his classic, I wont ever pick up a fielder after and error. Ever. What a headcase.
Work Hughes into the rotation.
What a joke Joba is. Every time his team makes an error behind him he blows up. He can never pick up his teammates. As soon as A-Rod made that error, I knew runs were coming. The guy is not mentally tough at all right now. He is obviously the weak link in our rotation and he’s making the same mistakes over and over again. Pretty gross.
First inning I really thought he looked better. There were some flashes of greatness on several of his sliders as well. This game just got away from him so quickly. I may be a blind optimist but I still maintain faith in him. This was not a good outing for him but I am not ready to give up on him.
“Like I said, this is not Joba’s fault. ”
That’s what Joba thinks too. You’re both wrong.
joba, what went wrong out there?
“I threw the ball well, they are just a great hitting team and had some great at bats…I was good again”
They are keeping thier fans hyped w/ Michael Jackson music, watch out.
What the hell happened to Joba’s fastball?? He was sitting at 90-91 the first couple innings and I saw 93-94 a couple of times but they were ALL balls.
Really starting to wonder if he’s injured. His fastest pitch in the first 3 innings was 93.. and he only threw one of those.
That said, if Wang was healthy, I’m certain Joba would be going down to Scranton. But who is to say that Sergio Mitre will be any better than this? Aceves clearly isn’t ready to start again. And Hughes is almost certainly going to stay in the bullpen.
Alright Mark. Time to shine
I thought Melancon was pronounced Mel-in-kon, not Mel-an-sin.
Getting beat by your third best pitch again. Can’t blame Posada for that.
This kid just doesn’t have the head to be a starting pitcher.
Second straight start he can’t hold a 4 run lead and can’t even pitch 5 innings.
Nobody else left to blame.
Get him out of the game and out of the rotation.
Go with Mitre and Ace in the rotation after the break and stick Chamberlain in the bullpen. That’s where bad starters go.
was that a 95mph 2-seamer from Melancon???
Man, Joba certainly doesn’t look even half the pitcher he was last season. No sparkle, and he seems to lose it if the slightest thing goes wrong.
Even if the Yankees have no desire to trade him in a package for Halliday they should feed it to the press that they are. Maybe that would get him to realize that his star is tarnished.
Ok, it’s official…
Joba is a FAILURE as a starter. He’s mental wimp who crumbles at the first sign of trouble.
And the west coast is proving again this year to be a place the Yanks just cannot win.
Boston is done with those trips. The Yanks have many more losses ahead.
What do you all think Joba will say in his Post-game interview?
here comes joba stealing from Kei Igawa. ” I think i pitched well, my mechanics are sound and i’m the man” When in normal person speak means, I stink, I stink, I stink, so let me cash my check and stop asking me questions.
Jose Molina. I blame Jose Molina.
j/k
I’m depressed now – this will be a very hard game to win because they have no one in the pen. Great – we have Robertson and Tomko to save the day. If I were histeammates, I’d be right pissed at Joba – they score 5 runs in 5 innings an he just gives it away. I really wonder how long they can keep him in the rotation…..permanently, I guess. Joba’s too much of a brand name now -
perfecto thru 7
Joba just doesn’t have the mojo he has had since Texas last year. Injury or whatever….
“The king of the No Decision strikes again.”
Actually, he can still lose this game if the runner at second scored and the Yankees don’t regain the lead.
enough is enough joba belongs in the pen.
Only two teams in the american league average over 44,000 a night – you’re looking at both of them.
I really hope the Angels dont get that attendance because of the name change. Great T-Shirt Dodgers fans used to wear “The Los Angeles Dogers of Los Angeles”
We all celebrated earlier in the year that he didn’t let innings get away from him and how he bear down. Well lately it’s been the opposite. Errors behind him bad calls and he seems to fall apart.
Alex is still a 1000% better 3B than Ransom. At least we’ll get a good long look at Melancon (again).
“Well if it wasn’t for a certain 3rd basemen, we’d still have a 5-2 lead”
1 error, 2 RBI leaves him plus 1 for the night so far.
They can’t do this all year. We have a good team this year. Giving up to just hope that this guy is good in a few years is insane. They have to get another guy and send him down. Whatever is wrong with him, isn’t being addressed on the major league level.
“What the hell happened to Joba’s fastball?? He was sitting at 90-91 the first couple innings and I saw 93-94 a couple of times but they were ALL balls.
Really starting to wonder if he’s injured. His fastest pitch in the first 3 innings was 93.. and he only threw one of those”
IF ONE MORE PERSON TALKS ABOUT THAT VELOCITY IM GONNA FLIP…do not look at the YES radar gun!!!! IT IS WRONG…joba had a good fast ball today..check gameday
Ross- you mean the 32 year old that has been hands down the best pitcher in baseball over the last Lord knows how many seasons?
“We have to keep him in the rotation but he’s a bullpen killer.”
That’s classic.
Matt – You saying that is not Joba’s is the same thing Joba is doing to ruin himself. It was his fault. Baseball is not a perfect game. When things go a little backwards for you, you don’t just kick dirt, swear in your glove, and throw balls down the middle. You gotta pick someone up on your team. I don’t believe any player catches that bloop over short BTW.
A soothsayer sees…
Joba’s future in the pen…
And Twenty-Seven…
very nice job melancon!
Errors and missed calls aside – Joba threw 9 pitches in the 1st inning to get 3 outs. That means he threw 85 more pitches to get the next 10 outs. That’s not gonna cut it.
wow even singleton is attacking Joba for being weak. Cone, Singleton and Flash definitly not on the kool-aid that cashman and michael kay are passing around
Thanks, Melancon.
Joba clearly had an awful 5th inning but Pete has now just told us the team is tired of Jobas act. Is that based on something pete has noticed before but for some reason hasnt reported or is that just something he is projecting on the yankees because pete doesnt like his answers?
Well, luckily, game is far from over. Angels bullpen isn’t exactly of the shutdown type.
Not Joba’s fault that once again there is a completely incompetent umpire crew.
The kid is 23 years old and your expecting Nolan ryan, whether you people want to admit it or not Joba is still learning how to pitch in the Major Leagues that doesnt happen over nite get off your high horses. I forgot every poster on her was once a GM
Serf, you thought wrong (we all made that mistake at one point or another).
I mean to put
Only two teams in the american league average over 44,000 a night – you’re looking at both of them.
in quotes
Ken Singleton said that
Wes July 11th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Some of you still want to think its Posada’s fault?
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I think we can safely say, again, that the issue is with the pitcher. Not the catcher
Joba will never be moved out of the rotation because he’s too much of a name. The Yankees have made him their crown jewel and let’s face it – he gets treated differently than Phil. He just can not remain in the rotation. You have to pick up your teammates – Joba melts like butter in the hot sun. Pathetic.
Does it bother anyone else that Joba automatically goes into the clubhouse as soon as he finds out if his inherited runners score? A lot of SPs stay around and cheer on their team even when they get bombed. ie…Scott Baker 3 days ago.
you guys are crazy… you want the yankees to invest on homegrown talents and yet you are so impatient with them…. they have to learn how to crawl before they can run….
Luckily Saunders has been just as bad tonight, and their bullpen is nothing to write home about.
I still think we win this game….but this stuff with Joba is unacceptable.
It’d be nice to see one of the vets call him out and hopefully he’s got enought guts to take it like a man and use it as motivation.
Joba FB tonight some velo but flat.
Blown ump call and ARod pulls Teix off the bag. He went to the curve because he knows he didn’t have much movement on FB, despite velo. He was aggressive, he pumped it in there, and they hit it.
Mama said there’d be starts like this.
Okay, Joba and 2 monument park bricks for Halladay.
I want Joba to succeed, but I am a little angry at him right now
time for the offense to bail joba out again!
‘Ross- you mean the 32 year old that has been hands down the best pitcher in baseball over the last Lord knows how many seasons?’
I have no reason to believe he is Roger Clemens, because almost no pitchers are. He’s just beyond his prime, and the odds are against him continuing to dominate after 2010 or so. The odds are highly stacked for Joba dominating for quite some time after that same date.
Were can you see the velocity on Joba’s pitches throughout the game?
So… a rotation of CC, AJ, Andy, Aceves, Mitre with Joba in the ‘pen?
Or replace Mitre with Hughes…
Or just send Joba down to AAA…
besides it was a though off season for joba… with the DUI and his mom being arrested multiple times… give the kid a break….
The bats need to get to work and answer with some runs of our own.
I got a question.
When Joba was impressing everyone in AA and AAA blowing away 99-100mph fastballs as a “starter”
where on earth did that speed go? Joba’s not like Hughes, who is known to be a control pitcher and hangs in the low 90s. When Joba was starting in the minors he was throwing gas. It not surprising to see him struggle since he basically lost 7-8 miles off his fastball.
The problem is, sure Joba is young, we need to give him a chance, but right now it looks like his stuff just isn’t there anymore. Joba is starting to look more and more like Zack Grienke a few years ago, where he just refused to throw hard.
I’m steamed…this is the guy that is standing between The Yankees and the best pitcher in baseball?
Man Brian Cashman better be right about this kid because he’s being wasted in our starting rotation at the very least…he’s “untradeable”, can’t make it out of the fifth inning, shakes off everyone and their mother, makes excuses after the game…all he has left is “high upside” and the hope that if he returns to the bullpen he can be dominant once again.
So to recap we have a 3-4 inning pitcher thought to be “too good” to trade for Doc Halladay, who last year insisted to Brian Cashman that he wanted to be a starter and yet despite given opportunity after opportunity after opportunity not only is not making good on his opportunities but burning his team’s bullpen at both ends. Then to make things worse he tries to shift blame from himself to anyone else whether its tipping his cap to the opposition or doing a heck of a lot of rationalization.
I’m sorry but if this kid is considered untradeable then please put him somewhere where he can help The Yankees instead of hindering them.
End Rant.
joba’s post game comments; tip your hat, did what I wanted, sometimes just get bad luck, blah blah blah.
Clowns Hughes is not starting this year and joba is not going down to AAA.
you guys are delusional.
joba has had much more success than phil as a starter.
both have excelled in the pen.
can’t just hide joba in the bullpen at this point. He just needs to lay off the w33d, and get serious about pitching.
Joba threw 97 mph in the 1st inning today and consistently threw 93-96 for the next 4 innings. YES Network says his fastball is 92 mph. All the time.
As long as they can keep it close and get to Fuentes, they’ll be all right.
No more excuses from the Joba fanboys.
If an error spooks him, he’s not a ML starting pitcher.
Enough of the excuses.
No quality, no length, no consistency, no ability to hold leads, no nothing.
Put him in the pen or in a Halladay deal. Get him out of the rotation.
robbie,
the issue is Joba continues to make the same mistakes, over and over again.
His mechanics are terrible, and I don’t think he’s in that great of shape.
I believe he has a bright future, but with him in the rotation hes not giving us a good shot to win of late.
I think Matt is in love with Joba or his is delusional..
JOba is the great nibbler.. He is clueless, in pitch selection…
i have always been behind joba being a starter, but it seems his average fastball is 91-92 as a starter, and he is afraid to pitch inside. He gets away with it fairly often, but if he cannot challenge hitters, he might be more valuable in the bullpen. I am disgusted with myself for typing this as I have never felt that velocity is everything, but if he cannot become more dominant/intimidating, we might as well return him to being a lockdown eighth inning pitcher.
no one is expecting nolan ryan or cy young, but the kool-aid drinkers have pumped this kid up so high along with his hysterics that when mediocrity is the order of the day he deserves to be called out. and errors and bad calls are part of all sports and players overcome them, bottom line excuses are for the weak, and if joba can’t handle it he can sit on the sidelines with ian kennedy
Joba made ONE bad pitch. Wake up and judge this objectively. It’s not like he walked the bases loaded and served up a bases clearing double.
Two of the runs in that inning were only on base as the result of missed calls behind him, and an A-Rod error after one of the missed calls took away an easy out.
Even if he makes that same pitch, it’s one or two runs if not for the errors and missed calls, and he probably throws a quality start because he would have been out of this inning with only 2 or 3 runs to his ledger.
The only mistake he made in the entire game was hit out. You’re whining because you don’t like the results, but get over it. He is not going to throw 98 mph and strike out 15 hitters every game in the rotation, he is still getting used to pitching every 5th day. Today he was throwing 93-95 consistently and except for ONE pitch, throwing very sharp breaking balls in tough spots.
You give a good team 5 outs in an inning and they will make you pay. TWO extra outs, not even just 1. Most teams in baseball will score if given that many extra chances by defense/umpires.
Just send him to the pen. or hand him a few beers, maybe then he’ll pitch better. sorry, i’m upset like the rest of you and to top it off i have to work in the a.m. BAAAAH
“was that a 95mph 2-seamer from Melancon???”
No. He threw all four seamers that inning. None of the pitches had a great deal of sink.
He was reaching back and throwing hard. He was 95 the entire inning.
The Joba hate on here is baffling to me. Seriously, guys, come on. He was pitching adequately until the blown call at second and the error. If he doesn’t lose those two calls, it’s still 5-1. His bad start is not on his mechanics or his ability, it is a mental thing, period. He will get over that with experience. He still belongs in the starting rotation. Every guy is going to take their lumps. It’s how they move past them that defines careers.
Guys its okay were like 8-5 in his starts even though he is a 5 (maybe less) innings pitcher. He has given up 8 un-earned runs in his last 2 starts that is horrible pick up your team!
Hey SJ, you still think he should work out his problems here and not in AAA??
This is complete BS.
they won’t keep in the rotation if he goes 4 innings every time…
It isnt like he isnt out ther trying. He isnt out there saying gee lemme give up a 3 r hr to Morales jesus. the kid is still learning heaven forbid he has struggles while learning im sure everyone in here picked everythign they wanted to learn up just like that
Melancon’s fastball looked great. I could have sworn his 95mph fastball was a 2-seamer because it had some good movement.
I’m guessing it was still a 4-seamer because of the velocity but it looked promising.
Joba has alot to learn about pitching. I don’t think it helps that he only has 90 career minor league innings.
Even though he was lights out in the pen late 07 he was still rushed and IMO could use some more seasoning.
“you guys are crazy… you want the yankees to invest on homegrown talents and yet you are so impatient with them…. they have to learn how to crawl before they can run….”
The problem is that Joba is crawl in the same spot on the floor. He needs some positive movement. Right now, he’s just standing still.
Bear with me, I have a question-
If Matsui pinch hits for Random later, could Jeter move to SS? If so, what happens to the DH spot?
“No. He threw all four seamers that inning. None of the pitches had a great deal of sink.”
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my eyes must be deceiving me. It looked like his first pitch tailed from the outside back over the outside corner.
I rather watch Igawa over Joba.
That really was classic Joba, Bad call, error and then he can’t control his emotions and just gives up and throws it over the plate. He does it very often. As soon as things go bad he crumbles and stops making pitches. We will have to hear his BS after the game how things happen and its not a big deal. His success from ‘07 has really made his head too big and hurt him. Too bad Wang got hurt because if not Joba really should be taken out of the rotation until he grows up.
Well Melancon looked better. Nice control.
Positives.
Out of 90 pitches, he made 1 mistake pitch. If not for some bad luck, you’re praising the progress he made as he throws 6 ip 2/3 er with a 95 mph fastball. That’s what you get when people judge with based on small sample sizes. 1 out of 90, quite a sample size. Most pitchers in the game make far more than 1 mistake in a night.