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		<title>By: Ontoceeve</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/11/chamberlain-frustrated-and-embarrassed/comment-page-2/#comment-968967</link>
		<dc:creator>Ontoceeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/11/chamberlain-frustrated-and-embarrassed/comment-page-2/#comment-906901</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No more fist pumps for fatso.</description>
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		<title>By: allen</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/11/chamberlain-frustrated-and-embarrassed/comment-page-2/#comment-906834</link>
		<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chamberlain is a father yet he chose to drive drunk, was arrested and put in jail. He could easily have left his son fatherless. It should have been a life changing or at least humbling experience but it was not. He is more arrogant and out of touch with each passing day and there&#039;s no reason whatsoever for him to change. Suggestion will not do it with his type. He may never make it because he thinks he knows everything. He can&#039;t even muster a shred of respect for those there to help him, including his manager. I don&#039;t believe whoever is in charge of the Yankees has the intelligence to scare the living crap out of this guy, which is what he needs. Even then, it probably won&#039;t make a difference. The Yankees&#039; handling of him has ruined the team. There should be no exception--Never, never make a big deal out of a player who has yet to make it through one entire big league season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chamberlain is a father yet he chose to drive drunk, was arrested and put in jail. He could easily have left his son fatherless. It should have been a life changing or at least humbling experience but it was not. He is more arrogant and out of touch with each passing day and there&#8217;s no reason whatsoever for him to change. Suggestion will not do it with his type. He may never make it because he thinks he knows everything. He can&#8217;t even muster a shred of respect for those there to help him, including his manager. I don&#8217;t believe whoever is in charge of the Yankees has the intelligence to scare the living crap out of this guy, which is what he needs. Even then, it probably won&#8217;t make a difference. The Yankees&#8217; handling of him has ruined the team. There should be no exception&#8211;Never, never make a big deal out of a player who has yet to make it through one entire big league season.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Nasty</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/11/chamberlain-frustrated-and-embarrassed/comment-page-2/#comment-906407</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck Nasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of Joba not working and not being competitive, and having to grow, how about it being the case of a young pitcher still trying to find his way in the major leagues, shocking IK YOUNG PITCHER STRUGGLES HOW DARE HE!  How about we let the kid learn his craft before we start lynching him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of Joba not working and not being competitive, and having to grow, how about it being the case of a young pitcher still trying to find his way in the major leagues, shocking IK YOUNG PITCHER STRUGGLES HOW DARE HE!  How about we let the kid learn his craft before we start lynching him</p>
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		<title>By: Tom K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David -

Though I agree with most of what you say, the &quot;3 runs once in his last 14 starts&quot; is a bit of a deceiving number.  Some of those starts weren&#039;t good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David -</p>
<p>Though I agree with most of what you say, the &#8220;3 runs once in his last 14 starts&#8221; is a bit of a deceiving number.  Some of those starts weren&#8217;t good.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize Joba isn&#039;t pitching well and doesn&#039;t say the smartest things in his postgames, but you people act like an ace is supposed to fly down from heaven. Take a look at some starters like Johan Santana and Jon Lester in their first 2 years.. They both had similar numbers to Joba during currently. You people have to learn to be more patient. Joba has given up over 3 runs just once in his last 14 starts, which I&#039;d say is pretty acceptable for a 23 year old kid. Quit saying you want him gone, because you&#039;re going to end up trading every bit of talent you have that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize Joba isn&#8217;t pitching well and doesn&#8217;t say the smartest things in his postgames, but you people act like an ace is supposed to fly down from heaven. Take a look at some starters like Johan Santana and Jon Lester in their first 2 years.. They both had similar numbers to Joba during currently. You people have to learn to be more patient. Joba has given up over 3 runs just once in his last 14 starts, which I&#8217;d say is pretty acceptable for a 23 year old kid. Quit saying you want him gone, because you&#8217;re going to end up trading every bit of talent you have that way.</p>
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		<title>By: GiantsCauseway</title>
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		<dc:creator>GiantsCauseway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tired of him telling us he sucks, we all know he sucks, time to stop sucking. He &amp; Hughes need to swap jobs, or Joba can be packaged for Halliday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tired of him telling us he sucks, we all know he sucks, time to stop sucking. He &amp; Hughes need to swap jobs, or Joba can be packaged for Halliday.</p>
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		<title>By: Eights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joba either needs to be sent back to AAA or put in the bullpen.  As a starter for the Yankees, he doesn&#039;t have &quot;it&quot; right now.

Girardi needs to do his job and straighten this kid out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joba either needs to be sent back to AAA or put in the bullpen.  As a starter for the Yankees, he doesn&#8217;t have &#8220;it&#8221; right now.</p>
<p>Girardi needs to do his job and straighten this kid out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret the Hitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret the Hitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CaptainsCorner July 11th, 2009 at 3:10 am

I wonder if they put him back in the bullpen if he would be able to get his velocity back up since he would only be throwing 20 pitches and not 100..Like Hughes has been able to do in the bullpen.

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Bingo.  Hughes HAS been able to play up his stuff in the bullpen and let it all fly.  He has said as much himself.  He has enjoyed better command, movement and velocity since the move to the pen.  

I&#039;d like to point this out to anyone who claims that Joba&#039;s stuff in the pen would even slightly resemble the stuff we&#039;re seeing from him as a starter.

If Joba goes back to the pen, he will see a boost in velocity just like Hughes did.  If not, there&#039;s always AAA but right now the rotation is a bad fit for him.  

I have no doubts Joba could at least outpitch Tomko as a reliever as soon as tomorrow, without any kind of grooming needed whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CaptainsCorner July 11th, 2009 at 3:10 am</p>
<p>I wonder if they put him back in the bullpen if he would be able to get his velocity back up since he would only be throwing 20 pitches and not 100..Like Hughes has been able to do in the bullpen.</p>
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<p>Bingo.  Hughes HAS been able to play up his stuff in the bullpen and let it all fly.  He has said as much himself.  He has enjoyed better command, movement and velocity since the move to the pen.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to point this out to anyone who claims that Joba&#8217;s stuff in the pen would even slightly resemble the stuff we&#8217;re seeing from him as a starter.</p>
<p>If Joba goes back to the pen, he will see a boost in velocity just like Hughes did.  If not, there&#8217;s always AAA but right now the rotation is a bad fit for him.  </p>
<p>I have no doubts Joba could at least outpitch Tomko as a reliever as soon as tomorrow, without any kind of grooming needed whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Harrisburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike in Harrisburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be surprised - but not shocked - if Joba is traded. Not surprised at all if he is sent down until September. I think you don&#039;t give up on a guy with his potential until he&#039;s well and truly shown he&#039;s a bust. At this point he is still in &quot;enigma&quot; stage. 

Not that we would ever necessarily know but you have to think this is one of the reasons you get guys like CC and AJ - to whomp on the kids when they need to be set straight. Joba needs a good kick in the balls and a whole lot of tough love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be surprised &#8211; but not shocked &#8211; if Joba is traded. Not surprised at all if he is sent down until September. I think you don&#8217;t give up on a guy with his potential until he&#8217;s well and truly shown he&#8217;s a bust. At this point he is still in &#8220;enigma&#8221; stage. </p>
<p>Not that we would ever necessarily know but you have to think this is one of the reasons you get guys like CC and AJ &#8211; to whomp on the kids when they need to be set straight. Joba needs a good kick in the balls and a whole lot of tough love.</p>
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