It is high, it is far … you people are nuts
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Wow, the blog is on fire today.
Loyal reader and poster Betsy was on WFAN and Kim Jones knew of her LoHud rep. Nice work, Betsy. Meanwhile, the Hinske homer post morphed into some good baseball talk with Rebecca and SJ44 making some great points.
As for the Hinske call, here are the ones that I like so far:
1. Hinske with your best shot
2. They’re hysteric for Eric.
3. Pinch me, what a shot by Hinske
4. The Masher from Menasha does it again
5. Hinske, Farske, Outske
The greatest one (unusable of course) was “It’s a Monica Lewinski for Hinske!”
We’ll see what else you come up with and I’ll be sure to give John a few choices when I see him.
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number 1
Can someone give a synopisis of the Betsy call – I only caught the end of it
The greatest one (unusable of course) was “It’s a Monica Lewinski for Hinske!”
wouldn’t that be used if he hit a tripple?
God I cant stand John Sterling. The worst part is that he’ll come up with something even more cringe-worthy than any of these.
#1 is by far my favorite.
john
July 13th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
The greatest one (unusable of course) was “It’s a Monica Lewinski for Hinske!”
wouldn’t that be used if he hit a tripple?
Funny Funny Funny
sterling killed me on the matsui call in friday’s game
matsui swings and hits a long drive to right….(3 second pause) it is high…pause…it is caught
Got to say those were pretty good nice job. Can we also replace it’s Robbie Cano don’t you know and a few of the other choice phrases while we are at it.
It would also be great if the it is high, it is far calls were at least reliable. My wife thinks I am nuts but I lose it on the it is high, it is far, it is caught short of the warning track.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus July 13th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
You would argue that Hughes has taken a huge step forward this season, yes?
Because that would support your argument further.
You need to have patience. Hard to do that on a team where it’s “win or you’re fired”, but there it is.
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Of course Hughes has taken a big step forward this season. I thought Cashman was absolutely right not to give up on him and have him earn his way to the big club in 2009.
Same with Kennedy although his season is now lost because of something out of his control.
My argument is simple; Cashman isn’t going to give up on Joba and his upside simply because he has struggled this season when he didn’t give up on Hughes and Kennedy last season when they were a lot worse and don’t have Joba’s upside.
All the fire and brimstone stuff and career grave digging is way too premature.
5. Hinske, Farske, Outske
I like the 1st suggestion, but even if John chooses one of them he’ll probably mess up the call anyway.
Uncle Ellsworth, I really just asked about Hughes – about concerns about his innings limit next year, stunted development (as far as being in the pen this year, injuries past two years) – same stuff we’ve discussed here. I think Kim understood and somewhat agreed with the concerns – she said we need to hope that Phil takes what he’s learned in the pen back to the rotation ……..
Pete, thanks for the shout out. I have to show this to people in my office, lol.
Tom in N.J.
July 13th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Ken Burns did a documentary on Mark Twain for PBS.
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Thanks for the info, Tom. That’s one that i hadn’t heard of. That’s got to be a great viewing on a fun subject. I’ll have to order it.
GF, how long can the Yankees afford to be patient with Joba if he continues to stink it up? He’s killing the pen and he’s blowing games left and right. You’re right about Phil and Ian, but…….what happened to them? Ian was sent down and Phil was not recalled after until September – they didn’t regain their spots in the rotation. Phil probably would have been sent down had he not gotten hurt (though I believe his poor results were due to the fact that he was feeling the effects of his rib injury even before the diagnosis. Nothing else explains why he was sooooooo off). That’s the thing – Joba shouldn’t get special treatment. I know you
“Gee, Officer Hinske, you’ve done it again!” <– didn't make the grade… back to the drawing board…
Betsy
July 13th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Uncle Ellsworth, I really just asked about Hughes – about concerns about his innings limit next year, stunted development (as far as being in the pen this year, injuries past two years) – same stuff we’ve discussed here. I think Kim understood and somewhat agreed with the concerns – she said we need to hope that Phil takes what he’s learned in the pen back to the rotation ……..
Pete, thanks for the shout out. I have to show this to people in my office, lol.
Cool Betsy
How did the fact that you are a Lohudder come to light??
What did you/Kim say?
oops…….
I know people are enamored with Joba’s upside but you know, before the buzz hit with him, Phil was the gem of the farm system. Forget Joba’s upside for a moment – Phil has extremely high upside himself. He’s got that upside…..to go along with a great attitude and work ethic. That should count for something. I have nothing personal against Joba, but there is no excuse for being out of shape. I was ticked off 2 years ago when Damon and Abreu came into camp overweight……
Also, I agree with SJ about how you don’t want your teammates to be indifferent to you. At the time Phil was struggling this year, I remember sort of being upset because I didn’t like the idea of Phil being an outcast in the clubhouse. That camraderie is what so many retired players miss after they stop playing – not necessarily the game itself. If Joba is losing his teammates, that should be a wakeup call…
Pat M….Section 211 July 13th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Mr. Franco, we agree that the 2nd half performance will have an effect on the decision making process in the off-season….As for your reference to 08 and the performances of Ian & Hughes you’re right…Ian was not ready even though he was excellect in his September callup…As for Hughes, he came back very strong after his hamsting injury in 07, won a playoff game in Cleveland…..Although the Spring of 08 was not kind, as he was pitching with a cracked rib….Did well when he came back in late August 2008……You’re point is well taken, however his starts va. two first place teams ( Detroit & Texas ) on the road do deserve merit, don’t you think ??????
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I hope you didn’t misunderstand me. I’ve always been a big believer in Hughes and I was last season even when he struggled terribly and the vast majority of fans on this blog wanted him traded.
I said back after the Baltimore outing this season that I thought people were being too harsh on Hughes and I’m glad to know that he has rewarded my faith in him.
So it is not my intention to rip Hughes in any way shape or form. Just that I don’t see the organization treating Joba any differently than they did Hughes last season after such a rough 2008 campaign.
These guys are both far too talented to pull the plug that early.
Maybe Harlan needs to come to see Joba pitch against Detroit –
couldn’t Hurt right?
Damon hasn’t called out Joba publicly like he did with Phil becase he is good friends with Joba. Joba is a hit in the clubhouse… so much so that AJ and CC mentioned him at their press conferences.
Different situation.
John -
I can’t tell you how many times my husband has come into the house after driving home from the bus stop ask me, so, what did it REALLY look like??
I still think that when Damon said kids, it wasn’t only directed at Phil…
(pours gasoline on fire before she runs away for the afternoon)
John -
To clarify – after listening to one of Sterling’s calls on the radio.
I’m with GF here.
It comes down to having patience.
What Hughes and Kennedy went through last year, what Joba’s going through this year, THESE are the growing pains that Cashman talked about.
Growing pains aren’t losing just one or two games; it’s thinking your pitchers are going to bust and waiting for them to put it all together.
Have some patience, my friends. It’s been all of a season and a half. Both Joba and Hughes have a lot of baseball left in their careers.
They’ve got too much potential for someone to give up on them now.
Joba is the crown jwewl of the organization and Cashman’s baby… they ain’t pulling the plug on him anytime soon despite what the fans might want.
He is a $100 million dollar arm and the best prospect in decades. If you don’t want to live with growing pains, then make a point not to develop young pitching. Send Joba to the pen and sign John Lackey to a $120 million dollar deal this winter.
Where were you when you were 23?
This is Joba’s first full season as a big league starter.
Patience, people.
Also, GF – I agree that Joba should not be sent to the pen. If he’s out of the rotation then he should be in AAA. Putting him in the pen will not solve his problems with command……..and it will not cure his stubbornness and uncoachability.
Betsy July 13th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
GF, how long can the Yankees afford to be patient with Joba if he continues to stink it up? He’s killing the pen and he’s blowing games left and right. You’re right about Phil and Ian, but…….what happened to them? Ian was sent down and Phil was not recalled after until September – they didn’t regain their spots in the rotation. Phil probably would have been sent down had he not gotten hurt (though I believe his poor results were due to the fact that he was feeling the effects of his rib injury even before the diagnosis. Nothing else explains why he was sooooooo off). That’s the thing – Joba shouldn’t get special treatment. I know you
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I’m not at all suggesting Joba should get special treatment. What I’m saying is this organization is not going to pull the plug on Joba’s rotation career.
Frankly, they need Joba in the rotation now so he’s not moving from it anytime soon. They can’t push the envelope with him now when Sergio Mitre is their BEST option to replace Wang. I don’t even want to know who is next in line.
If it comes down to it, they’d probably rather have him pitching out of the rotation in Scranton than to scrap their long term plans to develop him as a starter.
He’s got too valuable of an arm to scrap those plans that early. Wouldn’t make an ounce of sense.
And I’m not ripping Hughes. I still believed in the kid when most others here didn’t.
I may come down that one listens and is coachable, and one doesn’t listen and whatever…..One thing is for certain, we don’t have the fist-pump discussions anymore….In fact maybe things started to unwind for Joba after that dinger by Huff…..Because he certainly isn’t remotely close to what he was earlier and is rapidly drifting further away from that mound presence that we all remember…….He needs to step it up, his team needs him…..
I love how people think that if you flip flop Hughes and Joba, that Hughes is going to be lights out as a starter.
Because his 5.45 ERA as a starter this yr is such a great indicator right? His last start before moving to the pen was 4 runs in 5 innings to a Indians team without their 3 best players. It’s called being a young pitcher.
You don’t think Hughes will go through growing pains of his own and blow leads? Only Joba will?
If the Yankees don’t make the playoffs next year, it probably won’t be Cash’s call on Joba’s future.
All I’m saying is, at some point, you have to show improvement.
I don’t care if its Joba, Phil or whomever. You have to show you can do the job.
If he has a second half in which he shows that, terrific.
It would be great if he can show he that he is a starting pitcher. It makes the Yankees life easier.
However, if he doesn’t, at some point nobody, not even Joba, is going to get a multi-year tryout in the rotation.
The Red Sox are the same way. For all the talk of their “kids”, Clay Buchholz has spent the better part of the last two seasons in the minor learning his craft.
Patience is fine. However, patience also has to be rewarded with performances that leave you saying, “ok, now I see it (when it comes to keeping him in the rotation)”.
Two out of 16 isn’t going to cut it. He has to be better in the second half or the question as to where he belongs (rotation or bullpen) will be a legtimmate one.
“GF, how long can the Yankees afford to be patient with Joba if he continues to stink it up? He’s killing the pen and he’s blowing games left and right. You’re right about Phil and Ian, but…….what happened to them?”
You wait a long time. The potential is too good to give up after just two years.
If he’s 26 and still hasn’t put it together, that’s one thing. But he’s 23.
And Ian had an anuerysm. So he has other concerns at the moment than just pitching.
I believe the “patience” with Joba is directly related to not having a #3 starter. If Wang were here and pitching like Wang, you have a solid 1-2-3 in CC, AJ & Wang, so Pettitte and Joba don’t have to be perfect.
So, filling the #3 spot after the break is important. Hopefully Mitre does well, or they make a move for a good #3 guy. They don’t need a #5, they’ve got two of them right now.
Joba as a #5 with 3 solid plus Andy, you can withstand anything. But with all of Wang’s woes and Andy showing his age, there is more attention paid to the results of each of Joba’s starts. Don’t get me wrong. All things being equal, I think there’d still be some frustration with Joba’s performance, but I think even the fans with be less likely to panic. Right now it just feels like every pitcher every day must win. MUST. And there’s little room for error. Wang would take away that feeling. Or a similar replacement.
Sure, you can take Joba out of the rotation.
And replace him with who?
Who was the first to do the patterns in mowing ballfield lawns? Watching the ‘77 WS, the field looked drab. Drab, drab, drab. The fields today are so much more attractive, mostly, although I didn’t like the circular pattern in Minny (or was that LA?).
Definitely “Hinske with your (his?) best shot.”
If you wrote on a piece of paper “It’s a Monica Lewinski for Hinske!” Sterling would read it before realizing what he just said.
Whoever wrote that line, awesome work.
Therrrrre She Goes ……. A Round Tripski from Hinske …..
Ohh my goodness…From Hinske to Helsinki…what a shot!
s/b Round Tripski for Hinske
You people are WAY overthinking this… Sometime the easy answer is the right answer.
“And the 3-1 to Hinske… Swung on and HIT IN THE AIR TO DEEP RIGHT… That ball is high… It is far… It… Is… GONE! … A 2-run shot into the second deck in right… Hinske HAMMERED it! … And the Yankees take a 3-1 lead.”
1. A Towering Shot from Eric the Red Hot
2. A Home Run Trot for Eric the Red Hot
3. Another bomb from Eric Kaz-Hinske
i don’t know about the whole hinske discussion, but i’ve been trying to get sterling to work with “upper-deck-i mastsui” or “hideki goes upper-deck-i” for a while. i guess sterling just doesn’t know genius when he sees it.
also, of course no one knows how successful hughes will be as a starter, but i think everyone should be impressed with how he’s handling the bullpen role. with these pitchers being bred and babied all the way up to the bigs, it’s difficult to imagine the weird sense of entitlement that must come along with it. anyway, just good to see phil waiting for his shot and doing what he can along the way. i’d love for him to be in the rotation now, but he’s what, 23, years old? his time will come….
and i used to read his player blog. his obsession with “the office” is pretty awesome.
Hinske with your best shot…fire away, Eric had me dying.
Win.
The Monica Lewinski one is super lame and not funny at all… it barely makes sense…. Lewinski herself isn’t the home run… it was the act…
HERE’S A GOOD ONE
HINSKE HITS IT HIGH-SKI and AWAAAAAAY-SKI !
I’m guessing the ass kissing in the first line of this post qualifies as Pete’s half-hearted equalizer for referring to those who follow his blog and care enough to email him as, and I quote, “tree stumps.”
Preparation H!!
A little late to the party, I guess (work always gets in the way of the real important stuff), but here are a few offerings:
1. “That pitch was done inske by Hinske!”
2. “Oh Hinske, gimme some skinske!”
3. “And Hinske with a big grinske as he rounds the bases!”
And it’s off to the shore for some Hin-Skeeball!
A Hin-Screamer off the bat of Eric Hinske!
It’s a humdinger by Hinkse or Its a Hinkse Humdinger!
It’s a humdinger by Hinske or Its a Hinske Humdinger!
“Cha-Chinski. Eric Hinski puts one in the bank.”
“Eric lodges one into the Hinske Resort”
“Here’s a hintski! It’s gone! Eric Hinske!!!!”
“Good night Sweet Hinske, Good night!”
“It’s a Hinske-dinka-doo”
(With respect to Jimmy Durante)
“Hinske hit it on the chinski”
Last one…
“No more has-beenski…it’s Eric Hinske!!”
They’re all fantastic, I couldn’t pick one! But as for Sterling, #2 — its his style.
“Eric says HInske, the ball says BYEnske”
“And Big E Rocked that ball. It’s Rope off the Hinske Slope!”
“And Big E Rocked that ball. It’s a Rope off the Hinske Slope!”
Hinske with a Twinkie…he just devoured that cream puff pitch.
Pinch me! A solo bomb for Eric Hinske!
“And the Yankees revolution continues as Hinske starts his homerun Trotsky.”
Good God and you people make fun of “Red Sox Nation”. Sad.
It’s smashtime for Hinske!!
Hinkske Hitske Homerunske
Another relic… from Eric!
Yes relic can mean souvenir.
What happened to:
Badabinski!… a homer by eric hinske
I still like:
“Hinske hit it half way to Comiskey”
I’m not in love with Hinske with your best shot
There’s gonna be a High Finske for Hinske!
Oh, Mr. Beautiful hit it into spacious skys!
Meet me at Minsky’s, Hinske.
It’s a cinch-ski, hit by Hinske.
I have no doubt it will be “Hinske hits it outske”
“Hinskie” hits it to Minski”!!!
Eric goes barbaric!!!
It is high, it is far, Hinskeeeee Gone!
…thats all I got. Or how about “It is high, it is far, it isssssss Gone! Hinske homers to right field and the yankees take a 3-0 lead.” ??
Hinske Dinske Alla Kazam
Hinske-Belinsky
A shot by Hinske is never chinske.
hinske hits it over the fencske
Eric Hinske, Don’t you know.