Comments on: Jays: No window to talk to Halladay

By: SI

SI — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:51:22 +0000

SJ,

Who are the players Cash is trying to protect?
Montero? Banuelos? Romine? DeLeon? JOBA?

You said they have the pieces…

Is a package of Hughes, Jackson, plus McAllister, Nunez, & Brackman get the deal done?

By: SI

SI — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:35:02 +0000

SJ,

In your opinion who are the players Cash is protecting…
Is he Protecting – Montero, Romine, Banuelos, JOBA, DeLeon, Mojica, Melancon

Willing to part with – Hughes, Jackson, Betances, McAllister, Brackman

Are B/C prospects like eduardo nunez, juan Miranda, and Kevin Russo have any real value?

Or young guys in the gulf – Mojica, Toussen, Flores, Sosa, and a Urena- have any value to the Jays?

Would a deal that looks like: Jackson, Hughes, McAllister, Nunez, &

By: Guido

Guido — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:50:22 +0000

TheInfallibleOne – your deal is a joke, unless Jobba or Hughes plus Montero are the PTBNL. In essence the Blue Jays get two so-so prospects and salary relief for Roy Halladay. Meanwhile if the Red Sox offer 3 of their best prospects Cash will have to jump in with Chamberlain or Hughes, plus Montero, plus Jackson AND offer to take VWells. Finally there will be NO negotiating window. JP has the Phils and Milwaukee desperate for pitching. That will be his leverage on this. If the Yanks want Halladay they have to trade 3 A+ guys minimum and if the Phils offer the package of Donald, Happ and Marson the Yanks will have to give more (AL East vs. moving Roy to NL) or give the 3 blue chippers plus take Wells or Rios. I know giving Hughes, Montero and Jackson will hurt, but giving Buchholz, Anderson and Bowden will hurt the Sox just as much – and Roy Halladay is Toronto’s iconic player, so it hurts them the most. Face it and take your B grade prospects and put them away.

By: walt

walt — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:35:58 +0000

3 way trade proposal, i like any trade that does not give away phil or joba who Yanks will have to face for 10years on toronto.

By: ryan bergen county

ryan bergen county — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:00:57 +0000

its a done deal! championship #27
YANKEES trade JOBA, MELKY, MONTERO, PENA & KENNEDY for HALLADAY & WELLS

By: Buck Nasty

Buck Nasty — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:01:08 +0000

With Montero’s bat he could come up in September and have an effect like Miguel Cabrera did ALA the 2003 playoffs. you find a way to get him in the lineup no matter where with his hitting ability. Ajax nobody is expecting him tocome in and hit 20 bombs, he is more of a curtis Granderson type player, will hit with some power but will be more gap to gap hitter and let his speed take over, not all starters need to be able to hit massive amounts of home runs.

By: TheInfallibleOne

TheInfallibleOne — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:16:12 +0000

Ive said this elsewhere, I’d love to get everyones thoughts on it.

3 team deal

Yankees get:
Roy Halladay
Barry Zito (with SF paying his 3.5 million dollar 2014 option to be waived and the rest of his signing bonus)
72 hour negotiating window with Halladay

Giants get:
Vernon Wells
Shelley Duncan
$10 Million from Toronto

Blue Jays get:
Zach McAllister
Juan Miranda
2 PTBNL from NYY
1 PTBNL from SFG

If I was Brian Sabean, I would easily take that deal because its a big PR boost for my club, the team ERA is bound to go down, I can call up one of my stud kids in Zito’s place and wait for RJ to come back as my 3rd or 4th starter. I don’t have to go looking for too much in the way of a bat because I’ve turned a big negative into a positive, with respect to what I have now. Although Vernon Wells is no Albert Pujols, if I stick him in my lineup, he’s just potent enough to make me feel like I can take the division but guarantee the Wild Card.

If I was Brian Cashman, I would hesitate to pick up Barry Zito, but I could find a place for him as a mop up man (albeit a very, very expensive one) or someone who can eat some innings here and there. Worst comes to worst, Zito meets with Eiland and Nardi and they cook up something. Meanwhile I’ve guaranteed myself the division in adding Halladay to the front of the rotation, and will probably go to the World Series.

If I was JP Ricciardi I would take the deal because I get some decent prospects, I don’t have to pay Vernon Wells anymore and I don’t have to take on a bad contract either. I’ve freed about 35 million a year or so. With the new baseball economy, I can grab a few discount players and try to compete for the wild card. But hey, its not like I can contend with what I’ve got now, so what am I really holding on to? Maybe I can firesale my way into a strong haul in the offseason.

By: Beanietown

Beanietown — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:33:21 +0000

The New York Yankees are more exciting than a Broadway play and much less expensive!

And the crowds are much more affluent now and completely civilized.

The next generation New York Yankees.

Let’s go Yankees!

By: Richie

Richie — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:20:56 +0000

Adam W.

Two Words:
Hensley Meulens.
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Two more words:

Not fungible.

The logical extension of your post is that all prospects are the same. If you really think that, you have absolutely no knowledge of prospects or baseball. After all, every star in MLB was a prospect at one time. Does that mean that they are tantamount to Meulens?

Please stop.

By: 86w183

86w183 — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:15:53 +0000

Isn’t it great to have people on this board who know exactly what Cashman is thinking and what the Steinbrothers are willing/unwilling to do?

So Einstein, what is the offer for Halladay alone? No reason to keep up in thedark, is there?