The All-Star Game
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 14, 2009 
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AMERICAN LEAGUE (36-41-2)
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Derek Jeter SS
Joe Mauer C
Mark Teixeira 1B
Jason Bay LF
Josh Hamilton CF
Michael Young 3B
Aaron Hill 2B
Roy Halladay RHP
NATIONAL LEAGUE (41-36-2)
Hanley Ramirez SS
Chase Utley 2B
Albert Pujols 1B
Ryan Braun RF
Raul Ibanez LF
David Wright 3B
Shane Victorino CF
Yadier Molina C
Tim Lincecum RHP
TIME/TV: 8 p.m., FOX.
Notes: The AL has won six straight and is 11-0-1 in the last 12 games. … Honestly, is there anything quite so stupid as there not being a DH in the All-Star Game? … Jeter is 9 of 19 with three runs scored and three RBI in nine previous games. … Teixeira was 1 for 3 in his one previous game, that coming in 2005. He homered and drove in two runs. … Rivera, of course, has been just about perfect as an All-Star. He has appeared in seven of the nine games he was selected for. His line: 7 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 0 earned runs, 0 walks, 4 strikeouts, 3 saves.
Go, AL. For obvious reasons.
just can’t wait to see how long after the asb it takes for any major trades to go down.
how long does halladay stay with the jays??
do the yankees make a big splash or go with a lesser pitcher?
NL lineup is looking MUCH scarier than the AL this year. NL is definitely taking it for a change.
Go AL, but I think the NL will take it. Not sure I like the way Maddon constructed the line up.
Would have gone Teixeira-Mauer-Bay.
At any rate, Longo and Hamilton aren’t playing.
Would be nice to win the WS in 4 at home
go NL!
NL lineup is definitely a little top heavy. I like the AL bottom of the order better. All comes down to pitching though. And Pujols lol
Yeah, NL looks scarier, definitely.
Hanley, Utley, Pujols, Braun?
Daaaa-aaaaamn.
Longoria’s out of the starting lineup – michael young is taking his place. Longoria’s got a finger infection thats been bugging him.
As with most All Star games despite the big names this will be low scoring.
Gotta go with the AL to win again. I like their bench better.
Wow.. I forgot no DH,, that will make for talk when a pitcher gets hurt.. Pretty dumb..
Vegas line says AL slight favorite… Go AL!
Carrying over from the last thread:
Rebecca I left you a reply, but it’s too long to paste here
I understand the point miggs is trying to make, and I don’t think he meant to imply our current mercenaries are soft, just the future mercenaries. But I haven’t seen a Yankee team play as hard as the current one in a while. Refreshing really.
0 ER for Mo.
Nice.
“Jeter is 9 of 19 with three runs scored and three RBI in nine previous games”
Clutch.
“7 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 0 earned runs, 0 walks, 4 strikeouts, 3 saves.”
Godly.
NL lineup is much better at the top but I actually like the AL at the bottom, Young and Hill are good contact hitters and both have decent speed. I think Halladay’s gonna be ready to go and prove he’s worth every penny and every top tier prospect for any team that wants him.
AL 6-4, Mo gets the save, Mauer gets the MVP.
From previous thread: Honestly, I’d rather the Yankees hang onto their youth and flex their financial might in free agency instead, like they did in the offseason.
However, a pitcher like Roy Halladay isn’t on the market often, the Yankees have a deep farm that won’t get ravaged if they make a deal, AND they have the financial might to pay him.
And finally, they have a rapidly closing championship window.
It’s the perfect storm.
AL is the favorite because they always win.
NL looks really good to me though.
Red Carpet Parade is on MLB Network now.
Not sure why everyone thinks the NL’s lineup being nominally better to start off makes any difference in the game–all those guys will be gone by the 4th
nah, pitchers should hit. I like the rules the way they are.
Stop treating these people like babies. Play hard and win all of the time.
JGS-True.
Not having a DH isn’t the worst thing for an All-Star Game.
With so many pitchers, it’s unlikely that each pitcher will pitch long enough to grab an at bat anyways. That way, you can also get your bench guy into the game by pinch-hitting.
And doesn’t the NL typically have a more impressive lineup/roster on paper? And still haven’t won in over a decade.
except maybe pujols because it’s in his town–he’ll be pulled in the 5th
Wonder if they’ll film/record Ichiro doing his expletive laden anti-NL speech before the game.
It’s a tradition that needs to be documented.
Honestly, I’d rather the Yankees hang onto their youth and flex their financial might in free agency instead, like they did in the offseason.
However, a pitcher like Roy Halladay isn’t on the market often, the Yankees have a deep farm that won’t get ravaged if they make a deal, AND they have the financial might to pay him.
And finally, they have a rapidly closing championship window.
It’s the perfect storm.
Prediction: Mo bats in top of the ninth and gets game winning RBI.
(Yes it’s a joke, I’m well aware if the situation did arise he’d be pinch hit for.)
With Buck and McCarver calling the game, anyone plan to listen to it on mute?
Stultus: I’ve heard of that Ichiro speech! He never seems to talk during games. I can’t imagine him going “Knute Rockne” on a room full of AllStars! It would be great to see!
SJ44-
From the last post.
If I’m correct, luxury tax kicked in, in 2002, and granted hasn’t affected the way Yankees did business from then on out, much like they always did-trying to put the best team on the field with the revenue stream coming in.
No-one here has an inkling yet what the Yankees net revenue gain will be for 2009, especially in this economy.
Again I doubt the Yankees take on Rios and Halladay plus some 80M, in your proposed, well thought out, deal.
Maybe a deal get’s done for just Halladay and the rest of his 1 1/2 year contract, but unless you can unload some more salary, than just Swisher I don’t forsee us taking on Rios too. Do you want to give them Damon and the rest of his 6.5M [13M] salary, if Damon even agreed to be traded.
BUT, if Halladay does his 2 innings of work, without giving up so much as a hit or a long flyout, striking out Pujols and 3 others out of the 6 faced, then go Yankees, get the Superstar!!!!!
Rebecca–I will be watching on mute. can’t stand those guys
Oh heck yes Rebecca I have a burning hate for McCarver. ESPN Radio tonight.
Bill
July 14th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Stultus: I’ve heard of that Ichiro speech! He never seems to talk during games. I can’t imagine him going “Knute Rockne” on a room full of AllStars! It would be great to see!
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Yes it would.
Mccarver is actually pro Yankee. He said so on Francessa.
Buck and McCarver is one thing, but Buck and McCarver droning on and on about St. Louis and its devotion to baseball and the storied Cardinals tradition and all that jazz (given each of their deep ties to the Redbirds) will be even more torture than they usually dish out on a weekly basis.
NL is taking it this year.
Much different look for the AL: No ARod, Manny, Papi.
BTW, shoot me in the head bc the great Joe Buck is calling the game.
oh god i forgot mccarver was a cardinal. he is going to be insufferable tonight. and for some reason, joe buck angers me even more
also no Vlad.
JGS — YOu know why Joe Buck angers you? For the same reason he angers me. He’s awful!!! I want to put my fist through the tv every time he comes on. He’s so lame.
“With one swing of the bat he can change the game….” repeated 80 thousand times a game.
Nepotism at its finest.
It’s not just that he is awful though. I think it’s because he doesn’t seem to enjoy a job that a million people would kill for and he only got because of his dad
I’m probably the only one that doesn’t destest Buck and McCarver. W/e to each his own.
I think the NL wins this year. Just a feelin.
“Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 14th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
With Buck and McCarver calling the game, anyone plan to listen to it on mute?”
I’ll probably put up with them, but it will go immediately on mute whichever inning Obama joins them.
Over/under on Pujols name being mentioned AFTER he leaves the game: 5
St. Louis fans chanting “We want Roy” when Halladay went by.
Youk and Papelbon chanted back “we want Roy”
Jeter tells Harold, “Roy is great but if he comes, someone else needs to go and I like our team the way it is.”
The spawn of Papelbon is really cute.
pat-That’s Jeter. How about A.J.?
pat
I laughed when Harold said if the Red Sox get him, it’s bye bye Yankees lol
m – Over for sure, Buck repeats his foolish drivel all game and FOX cameras will show him in the dugout about 47 times. That’s if he doesn’t leave in the 7th like one “loosey goosey” did in his home park
Ideal situation: Halladay goes to an NL team.
way over–I’m thinking 20 maybe
pat: LMAO! That’s classic Jeter!
Carl-He’s right. Red Sox get him the division race is over and I hate to say it but in the playoffs money is on the Red Sox.
“The spawn of Papelbon is really cute.”
yes but the father is still an idiot.
pat,
You are evil. Wicked evil, but evil!
Was that for the camera? This is what Jeter told the writers:
But Jeter said he was relishing not having to face Halladay and having him on his side for a change.
“You see what he’s done to us,” Jeter said. “That’s pretty much all you’ve got to say. I’ve said it time and time again. He’s the best pitcher in the league.”
Halladay wore a striped shirt yesterday and is wearing another one today. Just saying.
“Jeter tells Harold, “Roy is great but if he comes, someone else needs to go and I like our team the way it is.””
Of course he said that…if he said, “bring on Roy” the headlines tomorrow would be “Jeter hates Joba!” But of course, you get Puke and Papelbum saying it and everyone eats it up!
I’ll only watch to see Jeter, Tex and Mo play……although I might flip back and forth because I do like seeing the players hang out together.
SJ, I asked this before, but I’m not sure you saw it. How many pitchers do you think the Yanks need? I think they need two – to cover for Wang and to cover for Andy/Joba. I don’t know how close the Yankees are to sending Joba down (I would not put him in the pen for a multitude of reasons), but they can’t do it if they don’t have a better replacement.
As to the discussion from the previous thread, Doc doesn’t guarantee a thing – that’s true. However, he gives you a better shot at getting what you want – a chance at the brass ring. IMO, the Yankees can not go with what they have – there’s no way. I just don’t understand those who want to wait on Wang (may not come back and, if he does, will likely not be the same) and Joba/Andy to turn it around. Andy is who he is and Joba is an unknown. Given that we missed the playoffs this year and we have some guys who are nearing the end of their careers, it’s not fair to the team (the entire team) to go for it. I do not propose trading the entire farm for Halladay or even a large chunk of it. If the price is too high, we pass. However, we need pitching…..things have not broken the way we thought they would this year (not that they always do) and the Yanks have to adjust (like all teams). This is the reality of the situation.
See, if baseball players were women, at least I could look at pretty ballgowns I could never afford on the red carpet show…
Rich,
I may have underestimated. It’s a long game, they’ll have to talk about the homerun derby.
They’ll talk about how Albert played a double header in Chicago on Sunday, arrived at 2:30, got up for derby press conferences and fought valiantly before he pooped out in the second round.
I laughed when they tried to ask Jeter about Halladay. Did they really think he would give them insider information or say anything that could be construed as wanting to trade away one his teammates?
m
Yes, HR interviewed him.
“Carl-He’s right. Red Sox get him the division race is over and I hate to say it but in the playoffs money is on the Red Sox.”
You never know in the playoffs though, Halladay has yet to pitch a postseason game. Look how different CC Sabathia has pitched compared to his regular season successes. I wouldn’t exactly bet against Roy doing well in a playoff series but you never know if you haven’t been there before.
Ah, yes Ichiro’s speach:
“Bleep … bleep bleep bleep … National League … bleep … bleep … bleeeeeeeeep … National – bleep bleep bleepbleepbleep!”
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
m-I like your quote more.
miggs, I’m with you buddy. I agree with most of what you were saying in the last thread. Also agree that ideally Halladay goes to the NL.
Someone said this in the last thread,
“5 best players ever IMO:
Ruth
Gehrig
Dimmagio
Mays
Mantle”
Check out this cool article: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.c.....uth-gehrig
There is a graph of the 5 best players of all time as decided by the SABR community. They are Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, Aaron, Musial
If you go purely by WAR that list would be a bit different, but it’s interesting to see. WAR = wins above replacement and the best 5 players according to WAR are Ruth, Bonds, Cobb, Mays, Aaron
I wonder why Halladay named only Yankees the other day in his interview. Jeter, A-Rod, Teixeira, Matsui… not a peep about Ortiz, Youkilis, Pedroia, Bay…
Good for Halladay. He’s feeling the love.
Yankees doing their pitch behind the scenes. Don’t want to make it too obvious.
And you know AJ’s buzzing around Doc’s ear.
I disagree with the many of you that think the NL lineup is scarier.
The AL lineup gives me chills. And I think our pitching is better.
We’ll win it again, like always
Rich-Yeah, but come on. If the Sox get Halladay, they’re WS favorites for the next five years (assuming they keep him).
“But Jeter said he was relishing not having to face Halladay and having him on his side for a change.”
m
I’m guessing he meant tonight with that quote not the regular season.
I think Mantle could have been top of the list had he been healthy. Very few could hit the ball like he did, and he had a lot of speed at one time.
“Over/under on Pujols name being mentioned AFTER he leaves the game: 5″
I’m thinking the over/under is more like 35. They aren’t going to shut up about it.
Babe Ruth 1916: 23-12 with a 1.75 ERA with 323 innings pitched!
Patrick-Bonds and his ridiculous juicing takes him off the list for me.
He would have been a great player anyway but w/the ‘roids he was too good. It is impossible to hit 70 HR’s in a season.
Ruth Gehrig Williams Aaron Musial makes sense. So does Ruth, Bonds (‘roids nowithstanding) Cobb Mays Aaron.
Mantle is on my list for the LEGEND of Mantle. How good he’d have been w/o the injuries, because w/them he’s still an all time great.
From last thread:
I wish I had more energy. I’d go back and look at the roster moves teh Yankees made in the last 90’s and early 2000’s. Every year they do something to boost the team. Sometimes it’s big, sometimes it’s small. I’d also love to look up and see what farmhands they gave up that became big players.
I am finding it quite interesting, though, how at hte beginning of this season, it seemed “everyone” (you, know, “they”) said the Yankees were not deep, that they had a poor farm system, especially where position players are concerned.
Now, I’m not saying they are packed, but it sure seems like they have more than anyone originally thought. Maybe not almost ready for prime time, but almost almost ready for prime time. I mean, who could imagine that if they wanted to they could put together a deal for Halladay with 5 or 6 prospects plus Joba and/or Hughes who are home grown? And still have players left to develop?
One thing that I am thinking of is I remember last year having the conversation with either you or SJ or both that it seemed like it would be possible to have a core of players who come through the system together, basically intact – much like Pettitte, Mo, Jeter and Posada. Is that still a possibility? From what I’ve read in passing it seems like some of those young kids are having setbacks, some are advancing fine, but I kind of lost track of whether there is still a “core,” so to speak?
I think it’s possible to develop your minor leaguers, keep some and trade some and have the best of both worlds. Even if your youth goes onto succeed with whoever you traded with, as long as what you got gave you what you wanted, isn’t that a coup, as well? That a player you developed and scouted did succeed, even if it was for someone else?
Maybe I’m too big picture, and maybe I realize that you can do only so much and then sometimes lady luck takes over — for someone else!!!
“Rich-Yeah, but come on. If the Sox get Halladay, they’re WS favorites for the next five years (assuming they keep him).”
Yeah they are favorites for sure but the playoffs are the playoffs, strange and wonderful things can happen. We’ve been the favorites for probably 12-13 of the last 15 years (granted with not the pitching staff some years that the Sux would have with Halladay at the top). I like what Derek said, he really believes the team we have can do the job, and I do too. I say bring it on if Halladay goes to the Sux…different team, different scenario for him. He’s never been in a true pennant race before.
Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t want him though, LOL
Alright after this post I’m going to give the Halladay talk a rest for awhile, for no other reason than to keep my sanity.
You’d think from reading the posts this guy has 5 rings and has been a lights-out postseason star.
The guy has never pitched one postseason INNING in his career. Yet the “experts” on here want to give away the farm for him, convinced he’s going to lead the team to the promised land.
I respect the opinions but I just don’t agree with them.
imagine if BUSH was in the booth? it would be one bumbling sentence after another.
no need for presidents to be in the broadcast booth, even though Obama can speak in complete sentences.
Rich-Like you, I want Halladay.
Sorry. Jeter says that and it’s very nice, but I bet that a lot of the players on the team disgree w/him.
AL should be the favorites, but at some point, the NL is way past due.
Stop bashing the present and former President.
They get bashed enough w/o it carrying over to a baseball blog.
“Bonds and his ridiculous juicing takes him off the list for me.
He would have been a great player anyway but w/the ‘roids he was too good ”
Then you have to take Mantle, Aaron, Mays, etc off the list for using amphetamines.
vb03-When we catch up in wins and losses, the NL is due.
Our new pitcher Doc Halladay better not swing!
pat,
Oooh. Wishful reading on my part. Here’s the full quote. That bad Brian Hoch not being more clear:
Derek Jeter said that he isn’t the type of person who would go out of his way to recruit someone like Halladay, especially in the middle of the season, when any move would mean the Yankees would have to dump a player off their roster. But Jeter said he was relishing not having to face Halladay and having him on his side for a change.
That’s our DJ! Always very team-oriented. And PC. In a good way, of course.
All Star Parade Pictures
http://www.kmov.com/perl/commo.....xtimage=65
Patrick-The reason I take off Bonds is that while he would have been a great player, I have no idea how much was steroid nduced.
Fifty HR’s one or two seasons? Maybe.
70? Impossible.
I can’t put a guy who so blatantly was producing at such an unnatural ability on a list of greatest players ever. Sorry.
Can we please keep the politics off the blog? I know I’ve been guilty of it myself from time to time, but that doesn’t make it right.
Hughes 1-0 in ML postseason career
Doreen,
What was your point? If your point is that it’s unlikely that we’ll see a Williams/Jeter/Posada/Petttitte/Rivera type of core come out of any farm system, let alone the Yankees, then I agree!
Jennifer,
Did you catch the new episodes of the HBO shows on Sunday, specifically Entourage, Hung, and True Blood?
Babe Ruth one tried to steal second but got thrown out… because the bases were already loaded and there was a player on second.
Can you imagine if a player tried to do that today???
Sox have interest in Rolen
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....rolen.html
I watched Entourage last night!!! Loved it!!!
Still 3 episodes behind of Hung though. Maybe tomorrow night…
Erica:
In a game vs Cleveland Andy Pettitte had the bases loaded, no one out–and picked a runner off first.
He got out of the inning without allowing a run.
I also think Babe Ruth once got caught stealing second…to lose the world series. think of the storm that would ensue if that ever happened now
Erica-Worse, he once tried tried to steal second in the bottom of the ninth of game 7 of the WS down by one. He was the tying run. Meusel, who was a very good power hitter, was the winning run.
Ruth was thrown out.
WS over.
Can you imagine if that happened today. The press and fans would have a heart attack.
McCarver probably will be in rare form tonight, waxing philosophic about his tenure with the Cardinals and what it’s like to be back in St. Louis.
He might even talk about his experiences while catching Bob Gibson. He might not mention some of the on-field advice that Gibson used to give him, though.
m,
The number of times that Tim mentions Pujols after he comes out of the game will be WAY over 5. He’ll probably surpass that in the half-inning after Albert leaves.
Right now I’m liking True Blood better than any of them. Its getting better and better each week.
haha, I win
lmao at Ryan Howard doing a LL impression
Doreen
July 14th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
GB7
I did not know that about Joe D.
I wish I had more energy. I’d go back and look at the roster moves teh Yankees made in the last 90’s and early 2000’s. Every year they do something to boost the team. Sometimes it’s big, sometimes it’s small. I’d also love to look up and see what farmhands they gave up that became big players.
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DiMaggio was quite a young player. During the early depression years, the Seals were offered as much as 5 players and 350,000 dollars by a ML team and were turned down, mostly because DiMaggio didn’t want to go because he was making more money in the PCL. During the ‘34 season, he tore up his knee and teams dropped him as an acquisition. Tony Lazzari, Lefty Gomez and Frankie Crosetti told Ed Barrow to get him at any cost and not worry about the injury. Those three players were big name stars on the Yanks and they all lived in the same neighborhood as DiMaggio. They also tried to get them to sign Vince DiMaggio, but, NYY didn’t get him.
miggs- Yes saw hung on sunday. That show really needs to be longer than 30 minutes! I’ve never seen true blood. How is it?
WTTCTOHA-
If a player did that today he would be crucified. Scary.
Rebecca-
I remember that game. It was a FOX game and I was able to watch at the beach. I could not believe it. So embarrassing for the player. But awesome of Andy
GreenBeret7
July 14th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Doreen, over these 100 years of Yankee baseballs, some of the greatest of the Yankee players came from somewhere other than the team system. From the mid-60s to the Steinbrenner era, CBS only brought in washed up players because they were cheap. That started changing around ‘68/’69 when they started thinking about selling the team and they no longer had the drawing cards of Mantle and Ford. Hard as it is to believe, the Yanks actually left Mantle exposed to the ‘69 expansion draft. Mantle told the Pilots not to draft him because he’d retire first. Mantle as a seattle Pilot would have crushed Yankee fans.
Steinbrenner also let the Yanks go to seed in the late ’80s and early ’90s, much of it was because he was almost broke. That’s when Steinbrenner became steinbrenner and took over marketing the team like no other owner ever has…negotiating his one radio/tv contracts, concessions. If baseball had let Steinbrenner do that for the entire MLB, teams like Oakland and Montreal earlier and Florida and Tampa later would not have been in the mess they were.
“Sox have interest in Rolen”
Ugh that would actually be a smart deal, Rolen has big time playoff experience.
We’ll take Rios or wells if they take Igawa.
As I said in the prev. thread, Joe was very popular on the West Coast but he didn’t become the country’s hero and darling until he joined the Yankees.
Only the Yankees could actually afford to keep such a strong core together. We overpay, but those players are beloved because they wore (are wearing) pinstripes for so long.
Abdababdaserser
July 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I think Mantle could have been top of the list had he been healthy. Very few could hit the ball like he did, and he had a lot of speed at one time.
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Even at the end, Mantle had his speed. What he couldn’t do is stop. That was a big reason for moving him to first base. One infield grounders, he could still beat them out, but, he had to run over 100 feet down the first base line and coast to a stop.
If Mantle were healthy, he could have been better than all of them.
And he was nicer than Dimmaggio too, and less self absorbed than Ruth.
Rebecca,
Just dawned on me, it’s Lincecum v. Halladay.
m -
My point was I was asking GB7 and/or SJ44 a follow up to a conversation we had last season about the players in A and AA ball. How it seemed like a good core of players. At the time, I remember several players were “promoted” at the same time. I just wanted his view on what was happening.
Ruth stole many bases
true story
m: Indeed it is!
Can’t wait to see how Lincecum does against the AL.
Dr. Pangloss-I like the beginning, but what about the middle and end?
A couple of great quotes about Dimaggio:
“As one of nine men, (Joe) DiMaggio is the best player that ever lived.” – Connie Mack
“(Joe) DiMaggio seldom showed emotion. One day after striking out, he came into the dugout and kicked the ball bag. We all went “ooooh”. It really hurt. He sat down and the sweat popped out on his forehead and he clenched his fists without ever saying a word. Everybody wanted to howl, but he was a god. You don’t laugh at gods.” – Jerry Coleman
“(Joe) DiMaggio was the greatest all-around player I ever saw. His career cannot be summed up in numbers and awards. It might sound corny, but he had a profound and lasting impact on the country.” – Ted Williams
“He had great wrists and hit balls like rockets, with top-spin, that exploded past third basemen. It always seemed as if he hit the ball hard. Every at bat.” – Bobby Doerr
“He had the greatest instinct of any ball player I ever saw, he made the rest of them look like plumbers.” – Art Passarella
“He just had that certain air about him that let you know he was something special.” – Joe Torre
“Heroes are people who are all good with no bad in them. That’s the way I always saw Joe DiMaggio. He was beyond question one of the greatest players of the century.” – Mickey Mantle
“He’s the most complete ball player I’ve ever seen. He can hit, hit for power, run, throw, and play the outfield.” – Joe McCarthy who was then asked by a reporter if he could bunt to which he replied, “I’ll never know.”
Rolen > Lowell
Would be a fantastic pickup for BOS
“Patrick-The reason I take off Bonds is that while he would have been a great player, I have no idea how much was steroid nduced.
Fifty HR’s one or two seasons? Maybe.
70? Impossible.
I can’t put a guy who so blatantly was producing at such an unnatural ability on a list of greatest players ever. Sorry.”
I definitely agree with that although I’d still keep him in the top 10. He had unbelievable bat speed and did a lot lot more than hit home runs on the juice. He stole bases, was a good OF before he aged, great eye at the plate.
I think Ruth, Gherig, Aaron, Williams, Mays would be my top 5 list. Mantle’s right at the top of them all if he stayed healthy.
pat
July 14th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Halladay wore a striped shirt yesterday and is wearing another one today. Just saying.
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He’s practicing wearing pinstripes. I wonder how he’ll be accepted by yankee fans if he asks for #21?
longoria out with infected finger. michael young in. chone figgins given 1st all star selection
mad
glad
sad
scared
anyone want to play? attach a song to these emotions.
a break from Halladay hub bub
“I’ve never seen true blood. How is it?”
It’s so absurd but so good. I really like it but I’m a total sucker for vampires and the supernatural.
I watched True Blood and Entourage on Sunday, so psyched that Entourage is back. Also saw like half of Hung, wasn’t all that impressed.
Doreen,
Sorry, I was just teasing you.
But I agree, you want all your prospects to do well even after you trade them away.
It reflects well on the Yankees when they do.
Who went on to become stars for other teams?
I’m not so sure that Rolen could hold up under the pressure of playing in Boston. Of course, he’s a good hitter and still a slick fielder, but he has a reputation for being sullen and moody.
Rolen grew weary of the atmosphere in Philadelphia and the pressure from Phillies fans and Larry Bowa. Tony La Russa could not wait to get rid of him when the Cardinals traded him.
I just don’t believe that Scott Rolen + Boston = the right mix. He has always tried to keep everyone else at an arm’s length, but it isn’t particularly easy to do that in Boston, or so I’ve heard.
GB7 -
I thought there was a “lull” in the Steinbrenner years, that things weren’t always this good. I know he always wanted to win, but there was alot of barren years with Steinbrenner.
Sherman said he talked to numerous Yankee officials and none of them expressed real interest in going “all in” on him.
Though he did add that the Yanks said the same thing about Teixeria but once Boston was close to getting him, they swooped in. He thinks things could change if Boston gets seriously involved in Halladay and that might force our hand.
” I wonder how he’ll be accepted by yankee fans if he asks for #21?”
Roy vs Paul under the O’neill banner!
Favorite Dimmaggio quote:
Frank Slocum: “If you meet any guy who says, ‘Oh, I know someone just like that Dimmaggio,’ I’ll tell you this: That guy’s a liar.”
Carl
July 14th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
pat
I laughed when Harold said if the Red Sox get him, it’s bye bye Yankees lol
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Yeah that was great lol. He’s right though.
So there’ve been about 8 opportunities to get Kinsler into this game, and it still hasn’t happened?
Local talk jock was saying he wanted Figgins voted in because he promised he’d do a back flip a la Ozzie Smith.
And a couple about Mantle:
“Fill in any figure you want for that boy. Whatever the figure, it’s a deal.” – Branch Rickey
“He can run, steal bases, throw, hit for average, and hit with power like I’ve never seen. Just don’t put him at shortstop.” – Harry Craft
“He has it in his body to be great.” – Casey Stengel
“He hit the ball longer. Hit hit it more often, and he hit it from either side of the plate with equal violence.” – Gerald Astor
“He should lead the league in everything. With his combination of speed and power he should win the triple batting crown every year. In fact, he should do anything he wants to do.” – Casey Stengel
“He’s the best prospect I’ve ever seen.” – Branch Rickey
“I’d say (Mickey) Mantle is the greatest player in either League.” – St. Louis Browns Manager Marty Marion
“If that guy were healthy, he’d hit eighty home runs.” – Carl Yastrzemski
“(Mickey) Mantle had more ability than any player I ever had on that club.” – Casey Stengel
“(Mickey) Mantle’s greatness was built on power and pain. He exuded the first and endured the second.” – Roy Fitzgerald in the Boston Globe
“Mickey’s was the longest ball ever whacked into the valley behind Forbes Field.” – Sportswriter Chester Smith
“No man in the history of baseball had as much power as Mickey Mantle. No man. You’re not talking about ordinary power. Dave Kingman has power. Willie Mays had power. Then when you’re talking about Mickey Mantle – it’s an altogether different level. Separates the men from the boys.” – New York Yankees Manager Billy Martin
“On two legs, Mickey Mantle would have been the greatest ballplayer who ever lived.” – Nellie Fox
Is Rolen the guy that kept robbing us of infield hits?
m -
I’m slow on the uptake today. Not a great day – one of my bluesy days, feeling sorry for myself.
Anyway, I don’t know the answers to the questions I posed about the in-season moves made by the Yankees and which of those minor leaguers who were let go went on to have good careers. One day if I have the energy, I’ll look some of that up.
Dr. Pangloss
July 14th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Ruth stole many bases
true story
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Babe Ruth was thrown out stealing bases many times.
123 steals – 117 caught (and they didn’t track caught stealing in 6 of those years).
-True Story-
Nice read Mark in Tampa.
I heard a conspiracy theory saying Kinsler was kept out to make room for Cruz and Pena because they would participate in the derby
Boston is trying to showcase Buchholz and set the ball rolling by starting him against Toronto. Or they are just doing it to tweak the Yankees.
Either way, we need to ‘one up’ them.
Start Joba on Friday vs. Detroit. Let Boston know that 2 can play at this game.
And my favorite quote by Mickey Mantle:
“If I had played my career hitting singles like Pete (Rose), I’d wear a dress.” Source: The Mick (Mickey Mantle)
Okay Mark in Tampa,
After reading quotes on both Joe D and Mantle, I am needing a box of tissues.
Y’all are crazy if you think Cashman will trade Joba or Hughes.
Cashman will try to put together a McAllister, Jackson, Miranda, Robertson package and see if TOR bites. If not, then he will move on.
JGS,
I think it was egregious that Pena (1B) replaced Pedroia (2B) rather than Kinsler (2B).
Doreen
July 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
GB7 -
I thought there was a “lull” in the Steinbrenner years, that things weren’t always this good. I know he always wanted to win, but there was alot of barren years with Steinbrenner.
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It was in the late ’80s that he was almost bankrupt and sold off just about everything but the Yanks. You have to believe baseball would loved to have pushed him out of baseball, then. He quit buying FAs and that’s what started the “current core” of Jeter, Rivera, Posada and Pettitte.
Ruth (on Cobb)-If I hit them dinky singles I’d be hitting 600 right now.”
m–absolutely. this article is totally plausible
http://www.examiner.com/x-8635.....lStar-Game
As much as we want to kill Joba for his recent struggles, I believe Pettitte’s continuing struggles are more alarming. His ERA has climbed each month:
Month / Starts / ERA / WHIP
April / 4 / 2.96 / 1.10
May / 6 / 4.95 / 1.73
June / 5 / 5.06 / 1.73
July / 3 / 7.27 / 1.50
At least Andy has gone seven innings two times in his last five starts. Overall, he’s getting worse this season.
“After reading quotes on both Joe D and Mantle, I am needing a box of tissues”
I’ve got more if you need ‘em.
Hanley > Ichiro
Utley > Jeter
Pujols > Mauer
Braun > Teixeria
Ibanez > Bay
Hamilton > Wright
Victorino < Young
Molina < Hill
NL wins going away. Halladay has not been good since he has come off the DL either.
“Cashman will try to put together a McAllister, Jackson, Miranda, Robertson package and see if TOR bites. If not, then he will move on.”
If that’s an acceptable offer than perhaps JP Riccardi would like to trade Roy to my fast pitch softball team, the Hangovers. We would be willing to part with Alex, Steve, Joe, Anthony, and Rob Sr. Also, we would throw in two cases of LaBatt Blue.
mad=Fortunate Son, CCR
glad= all together now, beatles
sad= The River, Bruce
scared= Eve of Destruction, Barry Mcguire.
Pujols thinks he’ll go to Hell if he juices.
Dunno about you guys, but I’m tempted to think he’s clean…
What an interview Pujols is giving to Costas on MLB Network right now…awesome.
Mike-They’re only playing like 4 innings.
Thanks Mike you just saved me four hours!
next time can you put “spoiler alert” before the post though?
Rebecca-Yeah right.
I’m not saying he’s juicing but he could say that all he wants and it won’t convince me of anything.
On half of my original ballots I voted for Kinsler and then I voted for Cano. I also voted for Kinsler in the final man vote and was disappointed he didn’t make it. The conspiracy theory about the home run derby could be plausible though I hope it isn’t true.
Wait:
I know I can be too optimistic, but he sounds pretty sincere. And I’m not aware of anything to prove otherwise.
Besides, you know, his sheer size.
Pujols also said that he’s willing to be tested every day and would give every penny he’s every earned from the Cardinals back to them if he’s found to be guilty of using PEDS.
How different does Pujols look now from his rookie card? (serious question)
Pujols sure has some strong feelings on God and steroids haha.
Yeah right.
He can “sound” sincere, but him saying he doesn’t juice convinces me of nothing.
Same w/Tex.
You got some people who have seen Pujols in the minors and have said he’s was not a big guy back then as he is now.
m:
http://caimages.collectors.com.....21auto.jpg Rookie card
Either way, we need to ‘one up’ them.
Start Joba on Friday vs. Detroit. Let Boston know that 2 can play at this game.
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Yes, maybe Joba can go 5.1 innings, throw 135 pitches, and give up 4 runs.
mad
glad
sad
scared
The Kinks catalog will invoke all of these emotions…
With all due respect to Albert A-Rod said all the right things too. The moral indignation was there from Clemens and McGuire and every other user. He may be clean, Pujols, but no amount of pretty interviews should be determinative.
Rob NY-Exactly.
Tom in N.J.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
mad=Fortunate Son, CCR
glad= all together now, beatles
sad= The River, Bruce
scared= Eve of Destruction, Barry Mcguire.
good ones all
my orinial idea was that the word had to be in the song but doing it both ways opens it up to more songs.
Mad That alanis Morisette song “you oughta know”
glad walking on sunshine
sad harry Chapin Taxi
scared 99 red balloons
Thanks, Rebecca.
He’s filled out a “bit”, but I need to see what his legs looked like back then.
They’re tree trunks now, maybe from his squatting batting stance?
I’m excited to see lincecum and future yank halladay( hah)
skip bayless said lincecum won’t last more than a few years cause of his violent motion..
Lincecum doesn’t stretch or ice I’ve read…hopefully the ” freak” won’t kill himself..
He looks as skinny as Jeter on that rookie card!
I believe Pujols, he is a supremely athletic guy. His swing is amazing, it’s a thing of beauty. His strikezone discipline is great. He also happens to be one of the best fielding 1B in the league.
Here is insane Pujols stat of the day. He is currently hitting .332 but his BABIP is only .292 – 30 points below his career average. So in reality he’s been unlucky this year and should probably have a higher BA.
The only guy that I don’t think has put on a single pound since his rookie year is Mo.
Sabathia
Burnett
Wang
Pettitte
Chamberlain
Is still the best rotation in the AL after Tampa Bay.
Boston has 40 yr old Wakefield and Smoltz, plus Penny in the rotation, they are not scary. Did you see the Angels pitching this weekend? Nobody in the central scares me….
We have the 2nd best rotation in the league, we don’t need any pitching guys. We are fine. Halladay is not worth Joba, Jackson, and Romine.
They need to get rid of the HR derby. It was really boring anyway. And it’s not something that the players necessarily want to do.
Especially last night. How much fun was it watching guys throw BP and the hitters not swinging?
So does Pettitte. He was quoting scripture post admission. Fine line beteween Saturday night and Sunday morning.
I frankly do not believe anyone anymore. I look at everyone and wonder. Really stinks that way but just giving my opinion. This is not a Yankee-Red Sox issue. This is a full MLB issue. (stating the obvious)
Nice job Selig.
-dennis
mad jack Jack the idiot dunce
glad waterloo sunset
sad Sunny afternoon
scared LoLA
Lol at Hanley Ramirez
FYI – They are not showcasing Clay. Beckett and Wake are in the AS game and Tito figures hell give them a longer rest.
I agree Doreen , was too long and boring…
And I vote YES,, pujols definitely too big of change not to be on roids..
Patrick that BABIP stat is astonishing.
Bonds, Ramirez, and Rodriguez also have beautiful swings and are supreme athletes. You can’t say that because he’s athletic and has a majestic swing he’s innocent.
You can say he’s innocent because you believe him when he talks, but that’s about it.
IrishCarBomb
July 14th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
imagine if BUSH was in the booth? it would be one bumbling sentence after another.
no need for presidents to be in the broadcast booth, even though Obama can speak in complete sentences.
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the yankees might be the axis of evil
“Pujols also said that he’s willing to be tested every day and would give every penny he’s every earned from the Cardinals back to them if he’s found to be guilty of using PEDS.”
He also said he knows the players association would never allow that to happen.
I tend to believe him but prefer leaving damnation out of it.
dennis-Costanza
July 14th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
So does Pettitte. He was quoting scripture post admission. Fine line beteween Saturday night and Sunday morning.
I frankly do not believe anyone anymore. I look at everyone and wonder. Really stinks that way but just giving my opinion. This is not a Yankee-Red Sox issue. This is a full MLB issue. (stating the obvious)
Nice job Selig.
-dennis
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Hey!!! Hey!!! Hey!!! Most of my religous experiences happened on Saturday nights. I’ve often heard the Big Oh, G. word used by my wives.
I wish I could run up and interrupt the MLB Network guys.
They seem like they’d be fun to have a conversation with.
“mad
glad
sad
scared
anyone want to play? attach a song to these emotions. ”
mad – Rammstein – Du hast
glad – Michael Buble’s version of Feeling Good
sad – Live – Lightning Crashes
scared – Anything by Mike Jones makes me frightened for the future of humanity
Man o man, do I love the Kinks
mad Low Budget / I’m In Disgrage
glad This is Where I Belong / Autumn Almanac
sad Young and Innocent Days / Get Back in Line
scared Shangri-La / Headmaster
GB7.
Impressive. You have more talent than I give you credit for.
Please send me the Cliff Notes…
Hope you had a great day GB.
-dennis
Who cares if someone is clean or dirty. Its just baseball.
“Pujols also said that he’s willing to be tested every day”
Sosa said something like that too, until somebody handed him a plastic cup and the address of a testing lab.
“sad – Live – Lightning Crashes”
Oh I feel it, coming back again
Like a rolling thunder chasin’ the wind
Voices comin’ from the center of the earth again
I can feel it…
This is my favorite song. Possibly ever. If you want however a sad song by Live my vote goes to “Overcome”.
The Village Green Preservation Society
Pujoles and Griffey are both clean.
So is Larry Jones- he is an All-American guy, he has no use for steroids.
It’s sad that clowns like A-Rod, Manny, Bonds etc. have ruined it for everybody. Everyone is under suspicion now unfairly because of them.
When Jesus Montero comes up and hits 40 HRs, everyone will say he is on steroids too.
No accomplishment can be taken seriously without the cloud of suspicion now.
Nobody, certainly not I, have said, “give away the farm system for Halladay.
In fact, I outlined why my proposed deal wouldn’t do anything of the kind.
If you want to hold onto every prospect in the faint hope they all turn out to be stars, that’s fine.
However, don’t overstate what I’m saying.
I’m not one who wants to “give away the farm”.
I am also not somebody who is going to prospect hug every guy in the system, believing they are all going to be stars. They aren’t all going to be stars.
As I’ve said time and time again, good organizations like the Yankees know their system better than anybody. They have a solid track record the last 15 years of not “trading away the farm” yet, upgrade their parent club.
Roy Halladay has won the same number of playoff games as Joba Chamberlain. So, quoting his post-season numbers, especially since he has pitched in ZERO post-season games, adds nothing to the conversation.
If you want to sell Joba Chamberlain is going to be a better pitcher than Roy Halladay in the next 3-4 years sorry, I’m not buying.
All the fear from prospect lovers about the Yankees giving away the farm is unfounded because it hasn’t happened since the 80′s and isn’t going to happen now.
What IS going to happen is, they will have to upgrade the team at the deadline. To do so, prospects are going to have to be the bait to get deals done, whether its Halladay or somebody else.
If they don’t, and they miss the playoffs for a second straight year, a new regime will come in and the last thing they are going to do is hold onto every prospect and run the risk of missing the playoffs next year for the third straight year.
One more cool thing about Albert Pujols.
Here is an article written by Joe Posnanski (one of the best sportswriters in America): http://www.kansascity.com/180/story/1318931.html
A few excerpts:
“How consistent has Albert Pujols been? Well, this is his ninth season — and if you cobbled together a season made up of his worst numbers — that is, take his worst batting average, his lowest home run total, his lowest run total and so on — the season would look like so: .314 batting average, .394 on-base percentage, 32 home runs, 99 runs, 103 RBIs. Again, those are his worst numbers.”
“Not to bring the Royals into it — they obviously have enough of their own problems — but if you take the best Royals numbers the last five full years (minimum 500 plate appearances), they look like so: .307 average (David DeJesus), .366 on-base percentage (DeJesus), 21 home runs (Mike Sweeney), 101 runs (DeJesus), 97 RBIs (José Guillen). Well, at least they beat Pujols’ lowest run-scoring year.”
Pujols is awesome.
dennis-Costanza
July 14th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
GB7.
Impressive. You have more talent than I give you credit for.
Please send me the Cliff Notes…
Hope you had a great day GB.
-dennis
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Afternoon, Dennis. Hope all is well with you and Ms amy up in Moose Tongue.
You’ve left me speechless. I can’t think of a smart comeback for you. I’ll just consider it a freak of nature.
Mad — Aerials // System of the down
Glad — Land of Hope and Dreams // The Boss
Sad — Cannonball // Damien Rice
Scared — The Earl King (Erlkonig) Schubert
Jacob-Prove that Pujols and Griffey are clean.
I’m not saying they’re not, but I take their achievements w/a grain of salt.
Rebecca,
Lightning Crashes is one of my favorites as well.
mad “Shipping up to Boston” Dropkick Murphy’s
glad “Beautiful Day” U2
sad “Angel” Sarah Mclaughlin
scared “Zeit Nicht der Strum” Faun (it’s a German folk band you’ve never heard of)
“Who cares if someone is clean or dirty. Its just baseball.”
I care when there is a good chance that this guy is/has used something, but is glorified as the clean savior of the league; but players like Arod are villified because their private results were puposefully leaked.
Laura, wanna add your Madonna and Mariah Carey tunes to the discussion???
This song always makes me feel ‘glad’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBaSTozYLdI
Mad – At the fantasy trade proposals which give up the farm for Halladay
Sad – At the thought of possibly trading 4-5 big pieces from the farm for Halladay and mortgaging the future for one yr.
Scared – At the thought of going through an 80s type drought for the next 10 years if we trade for Halladay
Glad – That Cashman won’t trade for him and give up the farm for him despite what the panicky fans want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA5rRUEkDbw
Zeit nach der Sturm, for “scared”
So wait Stairs, you DON’T want the Yankees to get Halladay? Just trying to clarify because I can’t really tell what you’re getting at.
There is no “good chance” Pujols has used because there isn’t any proof anywhere from anybody that he has or is using.
The burden of proof is not on Pujols to prove he’s clean. Its on the people who think he is dirty to prove he is.
So far, they go nothing on the guy.
Until they do, he’s clean whether folks want to believe it or not.
Mark in Tampa
I think that has to more with him being a Yankee than anything else. Look at Manny. If you lived under a rock you wouldn’t even know he took something banned.
I love how people say we’re going on some 10 year drought because we trade for Halladay, yet all of the trade proposals so far have us keeping our best position prospect (Montero) and one of our top pitching prospects (Joba or Hughes).
With the way the prospect huggers talk, you would think we were giving up Joba, Hughes, Montero, Cano, Melancon, Romine, McAllister, all in the same deal.
SJ44-That is not true.
Almost every major HR hitter in baseball juiced. So I’m supposed to believe Pujols is clean becuase there’s no proof?
I’m not going to say he’s definitely juicing, but I take all achievements w/a grain of salt.
First off, you aren’t “mortgaging the future” for one year.
If they were to ever get Halladay, its for at least 2, probably 4-5 more years.
In other words, by the time some of the guys in the deal are really ready to play high quality ball in the majors, if they can at all, the Yankees would already have 2-3 years of Halladay pitching for them.
Mad: At the fans who hug every single prospect like they’ll all be superstars
Sad: At the thought of losing the rest of the years left in A-Rod-Jeter-Mo-Posada’s careers because Cashman overvalued his prospects
Scared: At the thought of these prospects never figuring it out while Halladay wins World Series after World Series with Boston and Beckett
Glad: That Cashman is smarter than that and know which prospects can go and which have to stay
SJ.
I WANT to believe it. Just jaded a bit. I wanted Arod to be clean and as you know I am a Sox fan. I hated it.
Hope your nephew is doing well.
-dennis
Jeter and Torre together.
Tom Rebecca
good ones
Stults Kinks = underrated
No, not every HR hitter juiced.
Hey, you can believe what you want to believe. Without proof saying otherwise, you only cheat yourself from enjoying the man’s accomplishments.
Seymore,
Bingo! Its amazing how that escapes so many people.
“If they don’t, and they miss the playoffs for a second straight year, a new regime will come in and the last thing they are going to do is hold onto every prospect and run the risk of missing the playoffs next year for the third straight year.”
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Bingo. If we miss the playoffs this year, then the farm system is going to be in trouble this winter when the new regime comes in and has no attachment to any of these guys.
It’s about making the playoffs and winning a championship, not creating a 25 man homegrown roster in 2012.
Cashman better think long and hard before he gets too gun-shy. Because if we miss the playoffs this year, he won’t be around to enjoy the fruits from his farm anyway. If not Halladay, he has to get SOME legitimate pitcher(s) to stabilize the rotation. Right now, we have only 2. Not making the playoffs with that.
SJ:
Here’s the rub.
Toronto won’t let a team talk to Halladay before he’s traded. What then, if Halladay comes to NY, decides he hates it and refuses to sign the extension?
Then you’ve given up some of your best prospects for one year of Halladay–and no absolute guarantee of a ring.
This is one of the things that worries me.
SJ44-Jose Canseco, who so far has been proven true of just about everything he said in his book, said I believe 85% of the league juiced.
I am not accusng Pujols of juicing. But I can’t say “he didn’t juice” because there is no proof. Sorry.
Rebecca-No way he says he dislikes NY.
No freaking way.
Uncle Ellsworth
July 14th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Stults Kinks = underrated
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Extremely.
“Mad: At the fans who hug every single prospect like they’ll all be superstars
Sad: At the thought of losing the rest of the years left in A-Rod-Jeter-Mo-Posada’s careers because Cashman overvalued his prospects
Scared: At the thought of these prospects never figuring it out while Halladay wins World Series after World Series with Boston and Beckett
Glad: That Cashman is smarter than that and know which prospects can go and which have to stay”
Best post of the day.
No proof of juicing= guilt of juicing?
Derek Jeter’s a juicer!
mad bittersweet never heard of it
glad lucky star
sad American Pie (sad for many reasons)
scared papa don’t preach
Tom in N.J.-I NEVER said that.
What I said is that he’s not free of suspicion. And for that matter, neither is Jeter.
LOL Because Sherman thinks the Yankees are going to play all their cards to him. ” We want him sooo bad”, lol…….. What the Yankees tell Sherman and his cronies means nothing.
Also, I posted the link to Kepner’s blog post with Jeter’s quotes last night. I love the classy Jeter – and I love how he’s not going about publicly recruting Doc, knowing that it means losing some teammates,. AJ doing that privately is one thing, but practically begging the guy in public is somewhat unseemly……..and the fact that Jeter isn’t doing it doesn’t mean he doesn’t want him on the team.
LOL Because Sherman thinks the Yankees are going to play all their cards to him. ” We want him sooo bad”, lol…….. What the Yankees tell Sherman and his cronies means nothing.
Also, I posted the link to Kepner’s blog post with Jeter’s quotes last night. I love the classy Jeter – and I love how he’s not going about publicly recruting Doc, knowing that it means losing some teammates,. AJ doing that privately is one thing, but practically begging the guy in public is somewhat unseemly……..and the fact that Jeter isn’t doing it doesn’t mean he doesn’t want him on the team.
Ciao everybody.
Kinks rule 4 eva
Steroids or not what Alex, Pujols, Manny and Bonds have done is amazing. Like I said who cares about steroids, its baseball. Entertainment.
If Boston gets Halladay
The prospect huggers will say:
“Who cares if Boston wins another 3-4 championships? From 2012-2020, Yankees will win 10 championships with Joba, Romine (who will be trade bait anyway if Montero does indeed stay at catcher), and Jackson!!!”
“Rebecca-No way he says he dislikes NY.
No freaking way.”
You don’t know that, though. Not unless you’ve talked to him personally, in which case, can you get me an interview for my blog?
But seriously, Toronto isn’t the type of market that NY or Boston is.
He might love NY, but he also might hate it. It’s so different than Toronto (as far as baseball goes, anyway).
It’s a question of how much are you willing to risk for that possibility?
Do you still give up Joba/AJax/Melancon/Peña/Phelps/whatever SJ has up his sleeve when there’s a chance Halladay might bolt?
Or does that lower what you’re willing to pay?
This blog has gotten too big to really keep up with… Hundreds and hundreds of comments I can’t read.
However, I am aware of a few Kinks comments (I signed up for the Kinks Komment Alert option when Pete offered it.
I’m not sure I would agree that “Waterloo Sunset” is a glad song. More ironic that genuinely cheerful.
“This Is Where I Belong” is also not the happiest of tunes, but I can see it being more glad than overtly sad.
I fully endorse “Village Green Preservation Society”, particularly the most recent 3-CD re-issue with the album in both mono and stereo with many bonus tracks, some of which are critical tracks forr serious mid-period Kinks fans.
On a seperate note, I am in Santa Ana, CA, just south of Anaheim in Orange County. I think this is where Young Master Philip hails from?
But anyway, just minutes ago I drove past Halladay Street — an omen???
As you were.
Rebecca-Not for sure.
But he said he’d okay a deal to NY.
Can you imagine if after saying that he changed his mind? No way.
I wrote it in a previous post and it bears repeating:
Joba Chamberlian + Zach McCalister + Austin Romine + Ramiro Pena for Roy Halladay
If JP Riccardi OKs that deal, would Cash really say no to that deal?
If I’m Cashman, I do it. It’s all speculation, obviously, but the odds are heavily stacked against Joba that he will ever be as good as Halladay. Yankees have a shot to win it all this season and for the forseeable future. You wouldn’t theoretically give up Phil Hughes or Jesus Montero or even Austin Jackson.
If a deal like that is available to be had, I think Cash would be wise to do it.
When Mariano starts to lose it in 2011 and we’re looking for a closer, while Joba is there north of the border throwing 100 MPH and shutting teams down and Halladay is in decline while making big bucks in his late 30s (or leaves outright as a FA), we’re going to rue the day we traded him.
You don’t trade guys who throw 100 MPH, period.
Wait:
Stranger things have happen, mon ami.
Remember, Pavano actually took less money to come to NY…
lmao
Steve Phillips: “If I was in charge of the roster, Teixeria would have been gone and Mo Vaughn would be playing 1st for me”
Rebecca-Yeah, and Pavano hated it here.
But Halladay IMO does not seem to be as much of a head case as Pavano.
“Jason July 14th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
When Mariano starts to lose it in 2011 and we’re looking for a closer, while Joba is there north of the border throwing 100 MPH and shutting teams down and Halladay is in decline while making big bucks in his late 30s (or leaves outright as a FA), we’re going to rue the day we traded him.
You don’t trade guys who throw 100 MPH, period.”
Who is this Joba Chamberlain you speak of? He hasn’t thrown 100 mph this year. Not once.
SJ, spot on. How anyone thinks this rotation does not need to be fixed is beyond me. The Yankees are not going to wait around for Andy to rediscover the fountain of youth or for Wang’s replacement to channel Cy Young or for Joba to experience a sudden turn arount. How long do you wait? The deadline is almost here – this is a very good team, a team that needs to make the playoffs. Roy or no, there will a new pitcher or two within the next couple of weeks. Without it, you can kiss the playoffs goodbye.
Jason
100 mph Joba is long gone. But hey the sun will come up and he will have a job.
vb03-It doesn’t matter if he throws 100MPH. He’s an unproven prospect being traded for a proven HOF’er.
You do it.
Joba hasn’t thrown 100MPH since the Texas incident last year. Also, if you are Ricciardi and you have seen what Joba has been this year, wouldn’t you demand Hughes instead in any deal?
Don’t kill Sherman for reporting what he heard— he concluded by saying the Yankees said the same thing for Teixeria.
Wait:
Probably not. I’m just saying you never know.
Peace?
I love how everybody here knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that 100 MPH Joba is gone forever. Being the pitching experts we on lohud are.
Nick.
I started a silver chart with my commodity chart. It closed up .13 today at 12.91. I will alert you with a spike or do you have a price point in mind? Let me know.
-dennis
Joba rates as a hgher prospect than Hughes to the GM’s.
It’s not like Hughes was brilliant until he went to the pen. And any starter will dominate in the pen.
Personally, I say when Wang comes back give him one start. If it is not quality, stretch out Hughes, put him in the rotation and stick Wang in the pen.
Steve Phillip’s just said on SC that Chone Figgins is better then Arod. i think ESPN should just wear Boston uniforms.
Jeter never recruits guys.
Even in the off-season, CC said that he called Jeter. Jeter said he doesn’t feel he has to sell anyone on NY and if they have any questions, they can seek him out, but he isin’t going to recruit.
“It’s sad that clowns like A-Rod, Manny, Bonds etc. have ruined it for everybody. Everyone is under suspicion now unfairly because of them.”
Yeah, its not like there weren’t 104 players on a list that tested positive. Those few players have tainted everything.
That doesn’t even include those players who used and retired before the screening test either.
Nothing like dumping on a few for the sins of many.
lmao
Steve Phillips: “If I was in charge of the roster, Teixeria would have been gone and Mo Vaughn would be playing 1st for me”
Too bad Philleps isn’t the Toronto GM, we might be able to get Halladay for Igawa straight up. A Kazmir for Zambrano part II.
In my mind, if you can get Halladay for Joba+AJax+Romine+Phelps, you do that deal and don’t look back.
If Joba rediscovers his consistent velocity, no question he is a better prospect than Hughes.
But that is a big IF.
Cashman has to decide if that shoulder is damaged goods and if he is coachable.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Joba rates as a hgher prospect than Hughes to the GM’s.
It’s not like Hughes was brilliant until he went to the pen. And any starter will dominate in the pen.
Personally, I say when Wang comes back give him one start. If it is not quality, stretch out Hughes, put him in the rotation and stick Wang in the pen.
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Wang was progressing nicely until he went down again, which is a shame. If we had vintage Wang, we are better equipped in a scenario where the Yankees don’t trade for Halladay.
“Joba rates as a hgher prospect than Hughes to the GM’s”
But is that still the case after this season of not being aggressive, not throwing good breaking balls for strikes, and the 90-92 MPH fastball? GMs and their ratings can change their minds quick. IDK, I am just asking.
As long as I gaze on waterloo sunset
I am in paradise
Nick I suppose it depends on weather you believe the narrator’s above contention if you do then I feel safe saying it is a contentment song which is close enough to glad for our purposes.
I never doubted his sincerity until today – but still think he really really digs those sunsets
vb03-IF we had vintage Wang.
What if Toronto doesn’t value Joba as a starter and thinks he is damaged goods and wants Hughes instead?
Remember… every team values prospects differently.
Mark in Tampa-How quick? Half a season?
Doubt it.
LOL @ people acting like the yankees are a 4th place team. I think the yanks have the best record in baseball since A-Rod return. The yankees have a better starting rotation than basically all of the american league. The yanks are built for the postseason. Sabathia, Burnett, Wang and Pettitte and you will have a bullpen of Mo, Joba, Hughes, Aceves and Coke.
Halladay will cost you probably Hughes, Montero & Jackson. No way I would do that deal. JP will not be giving away Halladay to the yankees for prospects like Romine.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
vb03-IF we had vintage Wang.
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I’d say the biggest loss this year has been that of vintage Wang. Such a shame.
Bob Gibson was on ESPN this morning and asked about PEDs.
He said the only guy he’s angry at for taking them was the first one. Once one did, everyone would want the edge and he was glad they weren’t available in his day because he would have. He thinks PED users should be in the HOF if they are the best of their era which in this case is the Steroids era.
They also told a funny story that McCarver walked out for a mound visit and before he could say anything, Gibson told him to get back behind the plate because the only thing he knew about good pitching was that he couldn’t hit it. Wonder how Jorge would react to a pitcher telling him that.
In some ways it may be easier for Halladay in NY than Toronto. Toronto crushes the players when they go out. NYC it isn’t “cool” to over react to celebrities. Halladay seems like he would like that kind of treatment.
Scor-You could just as easily say what if Toronto looked at the last few years and decided that Joba’s and Hughes’s performances over that time were more indicative of what their future performance will be than the past half a season?
We have no idea who they would want in a trade.
“Gibson told him to get back behind the plate because the only thing he knew about good pitching was that he couldn’t hit it”
lmfao
I find it hard to believe that Cashman will deal Joba or Hughes.
“Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Joba rates as a hgher prospect than Hughes to the GM’s.
It’s not like Hughes was brilliant until he went to the pen. And any starter will dominate in the pen.
Personally, I say when Wang comes back give him one start. If it is not quality, stretch out Hughes, put him in the rotation and stick Wang in the pen.
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Wang was progressing nicely until he went down again, which is a shame. If we had vintage Wang, we are better equipped in a scenario where the Yankees don’t trade for Halladay.”
I was at the last game Wang pitched, on the 4th.
He matched Halladay pitch for pitch and had actually been more efficient than Halladay until he got hurt.
The progression from the Nats –> Mets –> Blue Jays was there, and the Jays actually have a non-AAAA line up.
Okay -
Sheryl Crow on the field earlier, no make-up or hair done doesn’t even resemble the person the just showed on stage in concert. I want that make-up artist!!!!
Half a season has been enough for Joba to go from untouchable in any scenario to the main bait in all the Halladay rumors. In fact it has really been about 6 weeks, before that everybody thought he was doing OK and building up. I am just not sure that a GM whose career depends on making a great deal here would be willing to roll the dice on Joba right now. BTW, I would think the same thing about Bucholz as well.
Everyone here is in a rush to include Joba in this deal rather than Hughes.
Which begs the question why Toronto would want Joba for the same reasons we want to get rid of him.
Thanks, dennis. I do check the kitcosilver.com page from time to time. I’m not sure what my strategy is going to be, but knowing it’s $3 off when I started noticing it very recently and more than $6 off its yearly high, I’m inclinded to sit on it again for the foreseeable future.
Maybe I’ll think about a panic sell if I need to raise quick funds to attend a victory parade in late October…
# Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus July 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I was at the last game Wang pitched, on the 4th.
He matched Halladay pitch for pitch and had actually been more efficient than Halladay until he got hurt.
The progression from the Nats –> Mets –> Blue Jays was there, and the Jays actually have a non-AAAA line up.
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It’s really a shame. I still think he can come back and contribute this year, but it’s hard to pin playoff hopes on him right now.
Job has his velocity. That part of him is not dead. He just doesn’t maintain it as well as he did last season.
We’ve seen several outings this year when Joba was throwing 96-97 MPH.
It’s his conditioning, not his shoulder, has led to inconsistent velocity.
People are too focused on Joba’s velocity anyways. He needs to learn how to pitch more than he needs to throw 98 MPH.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Joba rates as a hgher prospect than Hughes to the GM’s.
It’s not like Hughes was brilliant until he went to the pen. And any starter will dominate in the pen.
Personally, I say when Wang comes back give him one start. If it is not quality, stretch out Hughes, put him in the rotation and stick Wang in the pen.
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Um, no. Wang isn’t going to be brought back to make one start and then moved back to the pen. Not a chance.
And Hughes will remain in the pen the rest of the season. Period.
Papelbon didn’t sound all the confident, or ws that just me?
BTW, Papelbon just said Maddon told him he’s pitching the 7th…so Mo for the 9th? What if the AL’s down, does he pitch the 8th?
Such things matter
i can see not getting halladay but i can tell you one thing.
if halladay is close to signing with boston cashman better do everything in his power to stop it or we are finished this year.
we have to have 3 very solid starters,a very good one and a decent one.
we are missing a solid one & a good one.
the debth that we had covered for some of it but that is gone.
we will trade for a starter.we have to.
it is just a matter of who.
the sox wan’t to even the score for tex & they have money to spend.
cashman has to be on his toes for this one.
The Jays may not want Joba, who is some what of a boom-or-bust proposition. Showed great stuff, hasn’t shown it consistently this year, questions about his maturity and work ethic, questions about if he is ultimately a starter.
They may feel Hughes is the safer pick because of his maturity, his better injury history (no upper body injuries), and the fact he proved he could bounce back from adversity.
The Jays may not fall for the “upside” argument and may want Hughes instead.
Franco-When Wang was borught back from the minors he went right into the bullpen.
I say one start so we could see if he’s improved.
If he hasn’t, keep him starting until Hughes is stretched out.
Sorry if you don’t like it, but it’s MY opinion of what SHOULD be done, not what actually will be done (like, I doubt Hughes’ll be moved from the pen. But he should be.).
Maddon will probably pitch Grant Balfour in the 9th today. He seems in love with ‘his guys’.
BTW, I am not saying any of this because I want to get rid of Joba, I am just trying to put myself in the shoes of the other GM.
I think Joba’s problems this year are pretty much normal growing pains of a young pitcher, although the velocity loss bothers me. His attitude is a little tiresome, but we always hear about how Mo is so great because he doesn’t let a loss or a bad outing bother him once he leaves the field that night. If Joba was consistently winning with only a seldom bad outing, we would be praising him for having his priorities straight after a loss.
NickSF.
Great. I did not know you had enough silver to get you to Germany. Amy and I had a great time at Octoberfest in 2002.
You will have a blast.
Cheers,
-dennis
Uncle Ellsworth, you left out the preceding line:
“But I don’t need no friends”
You also ignore the (arguable) reality that Waterloo Station is far from glamorous. I supposed a theoretically perfect sunset over that part of the Thames could improve those otherwise dreary surroundings, but I think the narrator is alientated and isolated. Terry and Julie have each other, but he only watches them, the busy world outside his window, and the sunsets; he has no one.
My turn!!!
mad – Victim of Love (The Eagles)
glad – Make Me Smile (Chicago)
sad – Leader of the Band (Dan Fogelberg)
scared- Living for the City (Stevie Wonder)
Good game Uncle E
Why would Boston care about Buchholz?
They get to have a Halladay-Beckett-Lester rotation for atleast the next 2 years and probably beyond. Who cares who fills out the bottom of the rotation for them in the future? They have the same problem if they keep Buchholz, who fills the bottom of their rotation next year? Except now they replace him with Halladay.
Butcholz will probably never be as good as Halladay is.
My favorite line of last year’s ASB. When Terry Francona was asked what he thought of riding down 6th Avenue in the parade he said:
“I learned two things. 1) I suck 2) I should always let Mariano Rivera close”
Best line ever
dennis: good one. Silver would have to go through the roof to get me to Germany. I was thinking New York. Mayor Bloomberg will probably throw a parade when the Knicks win a game.
Francona is actually one of the nicest guys in baseball, and IMO a great manager.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Franco-When Wang was borught back from the minors he went right into the bullpen.
I say one start so we could see if he’s improved.
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Wang went to the pen because the Yanks screwed up his rehab. They recalled him early because of Joba taking that liner off his knee.
They ended up not needed Wang because Joba made his next start and Wang sat out in the pen to rot for 10 days. It wasn’t their plan to bring him back just to stick him in the pen.
If Wang returned, they’d immediately stick him back into the rotation.
“I find it hard to believe that Cashman will deal Joba or Hughes.”
Hughes was originally on the block for Santana. Tabata was “untouchable” until he wasn’t.
The point is how the Yankees organization think they are doing with players. Joba could have worked his way onto the list of trade candidates from his reluctance to listen to coaching.
I heard a short interview with Sean Henn today. He was asked about the positives of being in the Yankee organization, he talked about the development on and OFF the field. How the organization works with the young players on being professional off the field as they still represent the team.
The Joba DUI didn’t kill him with the team. It did put him on some shaky ground though.
Sometimes trades can work out best for all parties involved. Joba may benefit by being moved and shown that he isn’t such a rock star. Staying here could stunt his development as a pitcher.
The decision on who would go on a trade resides with the GM, after input from a lot of people who are working with these players every day.
Bucholz seems to have fallen some in the Red Sox organization’s eyes. Instead of him getting a chance to return to the majors they signed Penny and Smoltz.
Its all supposition on our part, but some of it is fueled by things we hear and the way some things are being said.
Doreen
July 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Okay -
Sheryl Crow on the field earlier, no make-up or hair done doesn’t even resemble the person the just showed on stage in concert. I want that make-up artist!!!!
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You do realize she is 47 years old right???
Mo with HR. He’s so great because he’s funny without knowing he is.
Francona is an awesome manager, he just manages the wrong team.
Mariano = love.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Francona is actually one of the nicest guys in baseball, and IMO a great manager.
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I agree. I would probably like him A LOT more if he wasn’t the Sox manager though
The Red Sox aren’t trading for Halladay. They don’t really need him because they have a surplus of starters as it is.
Theo hugs his prospects even harder than Cashman does.
Maybe he’d be stuck back in the rotation and kept there no matter how bad he did. But I think that to maximize our talents, we should use Wang (who did well in the pen earier in the season) in the pen and have Hughes, who even if he isn’t great would most likely be a vast improvement on Wang, to start.
You would be getting the best use of both pitchers.
I’m 99.99% certain that Hughes won’t get traded any time soon.
Erica: are you aware that Western Civilization continued to produce popular music after 1983?
Ugh, Beckett is being interviewed.
X-Mann
July 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Jeter never recruits guys.
Even in the off-season, CC said that he called Jeter. Jeter said he doesn’t feel he has to sell anyone on NY and if they have any questions, they can seek him out, but he isin’t going to recruit.
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I am inclined to agree with the logic of Jeter here. Any player who has to be taught the amazingness and pride that goes along with wearing the Yankee uniform… shouldn’t be a Yankee.
And if nothing else, they should want to be Yankees because we usually offer the most money.
If those factors aren’t enough, I don’t want them on my team
Bucholz seems to have fallen some in the Red Sox organization’s eyes. Instead of him getting a chance to return to the majors they signed Penny and Smoltz.
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The Yanks did the same thing with Hughes. He had a rough 2008 campaign, as did Buchholz, and the Yanks signed Pettitte to be their 5th starter instead of Hughes.
They wanted Hughes to earn his way to the majors and he’s done that. Buchholz has done the same thing this season with the Red Sox.
Shoot, I missed Mo. Pat, what’d he say ? I still love how MO was showing Doc his cutter grip at last year’s ASG – imagine, a great pitcher like Doc still seeking out the true master…….
Nick in SF in Santa Ana
July 14th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Erica: are you aware that Western Civilization continued to produce popular music after 1983?
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Yes. But the funniest part is that I was born in 1980.
My musical taste bewilders people. LOL. I have never seen anyone under 50 in concert.
I disagre Erica. I want the best player on my team. As long as he produces, I’m happy.
Tex interview!
Cashman would be negligent if he doesn’t upgrade the rotation.
When jobs are on the line, a new stadium, not making the playoffs last year, AND after the $423 million we spent, if we don’t make the playoffs… it is going to be a disaster.
We’ve come this close…. we have a great team. We need another starter or two. Cash can’t let this opportunity slip away and waste another year of MO/Jeter. It would be irresponsible of him to do so.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Maybe he’d be stuck back in the rotation and kept there no matter how bad he did. But I think that to maximize our talents, we should use Wang (who did well in the pen earier in the season) in the pen and have Hughes, who even if he isn’t great would most likely be a vast improvement on Wang, to start.
You would be getting the best use of both pitchers.
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No, you wouldn’t.
Wang doesn’t translate well to the pen. Not at all. I don’t like Hughes remaining in the pen but that’s where he’s going to be.
In fact, Hughes translates to the pen a lot better than Wang does because he’s a swing and miss guy who throws hard. He’s also the de facto setup guy for Mo right now.
Nick in SF in Santa Ana
July 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Uncle Ellsworth, you left out the preceding line:
“But I don’t need no friends”
You also ignore the (arguable) reality that Waterloo Station is far from glamorous. I supposed a theoretically perfect sunset over that part of the Thames could improve those otherwise dreary surroundings, but I think the narrator is alientated and isolated. Terry and Julie have each other, but he only watches them, the busy world outside his window, and the sunsets; he has no one.
You are most likely correct.
I like to think of him as a guy that likes people watching and sunsets, he is alone but is ok with it. sippin’ his tea a little buzzed on mj watchin the world
Why would anyone even watch John Kruk, Gammons, Joe Morgan, Steve Phillips etc. after MLB Network was created?
Tex and Mauer together! I’m glad they seem to be friends.
It doesn’t cease to amaze me how 10 years ago things like Baseball America and everything regarding the prospects was not very popular, and then all of a sudden, now, everyone knows about the farm systems and every other team’s system…
Giuseppe Franco
July 14th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
The Red Sox aren’t trading for Halladay. They don’t really need him because they have a surplus of starters as it is.
Theo hugs his prospects even harder than Cashman does.
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Exactly Theo wouldn’t of traded for Beckett/Lowell it was Lucchiano who made that trade. Theo would of never gave up Hanley.
Franco-Wang did well in the pen earlier in the season.
Anyway, why does Hughes translate better to the pen? Wang induces ground balls, which is a great weapon with men on base since he could get DP’s.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 14th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I disagre Erica. I want the best player on my team. As long as he produces, I’m happy.
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I understand that. But my point is, I don’t want Yankees who don’t want to be Yankees. That’s how you get Carl Pavanos
Not to get into another Joba velocity issue, but maybe a trip to visit Nardi or Nardi comes to visit Joba?
Here is Baseball America’s scouting report of Joba when he was drafted:
But he’s rounding back into peak form, which for Chamberlain means throwing a 92-94 mph fastball that tops out at 97 and a devastating slider. He also has a curveball and feel for a changeup. Once he turns pro his fastball should chew up wood bats.
My question is: hasn’t he been throwing 92-94 mostly? I remember reading the reports as he came through the system in 2007 after pitching in Hawaii that he was sitting 95-97 rather than topping out at 97 and that it had to do with some tinkering to his mechanics…
Is he really that out of shape? If he is that out of shape, don’t the Yankees risk injury by trotting him out there every five days?
“They wanted Hughes to earn his way to the majors and he’s done that. Buchholz has done the same thing this season with the Red Sox.”
When did Bucholz pitch in the majors this year? Even with Dicey K having problems they used others instead of him.
Is the pregame coverage on ESPN?
Some of you guys are funny.
Cashman “HAS” to upgrade the rotation? He would be “negligent” if he didn’t?
You don’t think Cashman is trying? Just because he doesn’t get anyone by the trade deadline, doesn’t mean he didn’t try. The reality is that there is not much on the market and these other teams are not in the business of helping the Yankees.
Don’t blame Cash if he doesn’t get us another starter. I’m sure he will try his best but doesn’t mean he will be successful in doing so. There are about 15 teams who are looking for starters.
RT@NYPost_Mets According to Yahoo Sports, Pedro Martinez passed his physical today and will sign with the #Phillies. News conference tomorrow.
Betsy
Harold Reynolds asked him about batting and he said I didn’t just bat I got an RBI.
Nevermind- I figured it out. I always forget about the MLB channel
77513.
Theo did not make that deal. He was in the gorilla suit at Octoberfest. Well, extended fest..
-dennis
Erica-I understand your logic, but Pavano was a head case.
Rebecca-
It’s Bastille Day!!!!! I just got excited cause now I think of you and your crazy French enlightenment papers whenever I see anything France related
Sorry. Should have been to GF. My bad.
-dennis
Erica:
I know!!
VIVE LA FRANCE!!
(I prefer the Ancien Regime. “L’etat, c’set moi!”) FWIW, I still haven’t started that paper…
“every day I look at the world from my window
but chilly chilly is evening time, Waterloo Sunset’s fine”
Open to interpretation, I guess. I think he has made a sort of peace with his isolation, but gladness is a bridge too far.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Franco-Wang did well in the pen earlier in the season.
Anyway, why does Hughes translate better to the pen? Wang induces ground balls, which is a great weapon with men on base since he could get DP’s.
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I just told you why Hughes translates better to the pen than Wang.
He’s a swing and miss guy who throws 94-96 MPH. He’s also settled into the setup role in front of Mo.
I don’t want him there but that’s where he’s staying.
Wang doesn’t translate as well because he’s a contact pitcher and sinker ballers.
There aren’t exactly a ton of sinker baller late inning relievers out there.
You want swing and miss guys who attack the zone in the pen. Not contact sinker ballers.
Rebecca-
When is it due?
Abdababdaserser July 14th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
When did Bucholz pitch in the majors this year? Even with Dicey K having problems they used others instead of him.
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Maybe you haven’t heard, but he’s pitching for the Red Sox on Friday.
How long is the paper, Rebecca?
Franco-I know you said why Hughes translates better as a bullpen guy. I disagreed. I think a sinkerballer who could come in w/men on base an work a DP is quite useful. He was working well out of the pen earlier.
Erica: Something crazy like September 10. Realistically, about August 10th.
Tom: 15 pages, standard length.
Harold Reynolds asked him about batting and he said I didn’t just bat I got an RBI.
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Mo’s so cute.
Am I losing my mind??
I could have sworn I read somewhere that the ASG was starting at 7:30 to get the intros out of the way earlier. Did I make that up or am I confusing it with something else???
When Wang is right, he gives you a large quantity of quality innings. That is his greatest value. Like most good starter, he would probably do well out of the pen, but probably not as well as guys like Joba and Hughes.
Erica -
Yup. I know she’s late-40′s.
But on stage she looked considerably younger and her nose was 100% different!!!!
but gladness is a bridge too far
WOW is this a call back to our “best war movies” discussion?
who said “a bridge too far = one cameo too many?”
You or GB I think
Good stuff
Ok saddest song EVER? Who’s got it?
Melencholy counts too
Is it raining at NYS? Will there be a rain delay? Look! Cano batting 6th!
Going through Yankees withdrawals…no Yankee ball until Friday..
Philly is still in the Halladay running-
“GM Ruben Amaro has indicated that the Phillies would use Martinez as a starter. Martinez’s signing does not preclude Philadelphia from making a bid for Toronto ace Roy Halladay(notes), who started Tuesday night’s All-Star Game”
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
If we have to give up Austin Jackson to get Washburn, we have to do it.
Missing the playoffs is simply not an option. And it would be a shame to waste another yr with the old guard (Burnett is no spring chicken at 32 either).
Uncle Ellsworth,
The breakup song from Family Ties?
15 pages? Please! You should be able to pump that out in 3-4 hours.
Nick in SF-When he’s right.
I say give him one start after the ASB. If he does not show significant improvement start stretching out Hughes. In the meantime, keep starting Wang until Hughes is stretched. If during this time Wang significantly improves, no harm no foul. No you have a bullpen guy (Hughes) who could go multiple innings.
Washburn isn’t getting traded.
Rebecca-
You have PLENTY of time. LOL. I was so bad at writing papers in college I think I became an accoutning major just so I wouldn’t have to write that many.
Although, I have this recurring dream like 3 times a week, that I have a paper due for a class that I never go to and I am very unprepared. I have been out of college for 7 years. Apparently this is a common anxiety dream. I have no idea what I can have such anxiety about
No is now.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Franco-I know you said why Hughes translates better as a bullpen guy. I disagreed. I think a sinkerballer who could come in w/men on base an work a DP is quite useful. He was working well out of the pen earlier.
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He only pitched out of the pen because they botched his rehab. It wasn’t a plan and I’m sure they don’t want him back there again.
This is all a moot point because Wang will go back to the rotation if and when he returns and Hughes isn’t moving from where he is.
Ironically, it has been sunny and perfect weather in the NY area for the past 2 weeks… and the team was on the road for the first week and are on break now.
Don’t worry, when games resume this Friday it will start Thunderstorming for 2 weeks straight again and we’ll have 3-4 delays mixed in.
Will the President wear an AL or NL hat?? or just go hatless???
I know Bucholz is pitching on Friday. Is that to showcase him now for a trade? There were a number of times when they could have used him and went another way.
“I was so bad at writing papers in college I think I became an accoutning major just so I wouldn’t have to write that many.”
I became an English major because I hate math.
“If we have to give up Austin Jackson to get Washburn, we have to do it.
Missing the playoffs is simply not an option. And it would be a shame to waste another yr with the old guard (Burnett is no spring chicken at 32 either).”
no way do i give up ajax for washburn…this whole idea that the yanks are doing the “old guard” a disservice by not winning now is so stupid i cant get over it
Franco-I guess it is probably a moot point. But that is what I would do.
I believe Halladay will be a Yankee along with Vernon Wells. Taking Wells’ contract will allow the Yanks to keep Joba & Hughes. I do believe Montero may be part of the package though. I wouldn’t be surprised if Igawa were included with the Yanks paying for him as well.
Also, the no contract talk stuff is just crazy! Why Cashman has probably been on the phone either directly or indirectly with Halladay’s agent already. Ballpark Hypotheticals! LOL! (Halladay Field at Yankee Stadium! LOL!)
BTW, Mickey Mantle was phenominal. An outfield rotation of Mantle, Mays, Williams & Musial with Ruth as a DH would be fun to see.
C – Yogi
BU C – Bench
1B – Gehrig
2B – Hornsby
SS – Ripken
3B – Pujol
inf – Jeter/ARod
RF – Mantle
CF – Mays
LF – Ted Williams
OF – Musial
DH – Ruth
Erica.
He will wear a White Sox hat IMO.
-dennis
“Tom in N.J. July 14th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
15 pages? Please! You should be able to pump that out in 3-4 hours.”
I know. That’s why I haven’t started.
m
July 14th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Uncle Ellsworth,
The breakup song from Family Ties?
I loved this show but have no idea of this?
Oh BTW Glad = “Happy Happy Joy Joy” by Stinky Whisselteeth
6:28 p.m. ET
OK, so the All-Star Game counts? It’s important, right? Home-field advantage and all? Serious, everybody serious? Well, there are still signs, big and small, that this is nothing more than an exhibition.
An unwritten rule, one of the most rigidly observed, is that the day’s starting pitcher never speaks with the media before the game. Yet, there was Tim Lincecum, lounging by his locker about three hours before first pitch, holding court. The NL starter in tonight’s 80th All-Star Game didn’t mind chatting at all, discussing everything from his delivery, to pitch selection to, of course, his hair. He would never do that before a “real” start.
As for what in the world is going on with his hair, he offered this:
“I’m too lazy to cut it right now,” he said. “And I have no clue what I would do with it if I did cut it.”
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Jeter also has advice for the president, that’s if he’s asked for it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....lstar_game
Abdababdaserser July 14th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I know Bucholz is pitching on Friday. Is that to showcase him now for a trade? There were a number of times when they could have used him and went another way.
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I doubt Buccholz is getting traded.
Theo loves his prospects just as much as Cashman does. Maybe more.
If anyone gets dealt in that rotation, it will be Penny.
“Erica – always OPPC July 14th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Will the President wear an AL or NL hat?? or just go hatless???”
Who cares?
You ABSOLUTLY give up AJax for Washburn. Washburn is good.
That’s my opinion anyway.
Give up Jackson for two months of Washburn?
Uh, no. That ain’t happening.
The Prez should wear a Fez tonight when throwing out the first pitch. A red, white, and blue fez.
““Erica – always OPPC July 14th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Will the President wear an AL or NL hat?? or just go hatless???”
Who cares?”
Obama is a known ChiSox fan so probably a ChiSox hat.
Straight up you do it then resign him of course.
I became a history major because I hated the future.
Seattle isin’t in sell-mode. They just won a series from the Rangers and took 2\3 from the Dodgers AND Red Sox on the road last week.
KC also has no incentive to trade Bannister, who is under control for 3 more years and is young. Unless we give them something good, they don’t need to move him. He can be a cost effective middle rotation guy for them.
The trade deadline is basically the Roy Halladay show. Very very slim pickings for the other teams who need pitching. Certainly nobody with AL experience. I’m sure you could find some rejects (a la Arroyo) in the NL to acquire. But they don’t help us.
Tom in N.J.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
“I was so bad at writing papers in college I think I became an accoutning major just so I wouldn’t have to write that many.”
I became an English major because I hate math.
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Accountants use calculators!
Posting rules forbid me to post my major
Tom in N.J.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
The Prez should wear a Fez tonight when throwing out the first pitch. A red, white, and blue fez.
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With a Bugs Bunny Pez Dispenser attached to the top of the fez.
A Pez Fez for the Prez.
Has everyone gone on the record with their feelings about Halladay?
Wilpons lost $700 million to Madoff
http://bit.ly/whnwt
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 14th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Straight up you do it then resign him of course.
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No, you don’t.
Washburn is having a good year but he hasn’t been great the last few years.
You get too reckless dealing away your best prospects you’ll turn turn back the clock to the 1980s Yankees all over again.
Nobody wants that.
i wanted to ‘build’ my own major when I was in college.
They wouldn’t let me major in ‘Non-violent Geography’.
Nick, you should buy this t-shirt then:
http://www.musicfansdirect.com.....ProdID=218
Straight up, in thory, I say you do it.
Altough it’s possible I’m remembering Washburn as better than he really is.
I want Curtis Granderson and I know the Yankees will never get him.
Uncle Ellsworth: I wasn’t the one who made the favorite war movies comment. I was just thinking of Terry and Julie crossing over the river in the third verse. A journey our sad narrator never makes.
Hmmm, career Washburn is worse than I thought.
Never mind.
The weird thing is…
I didn’t get into the journalism program, so I ended up majoring in history.
So, guess what I want to do with the rest of my life? *points to blog*
“Has everyone gone on the record with their feelings about Halladay?”
Not everyone.
Nick. I have not weighed it on it yet. Hallady however is my favorite Madonna tune when I am really, really sad as per previous posts. It is ready in the ipod after I finish that book about ’78 you have been promoting.
-dennis
Nick in SF in Santa Ana
July 14th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Has everyone gone on the record with their feelings about Halladay?
I have not. Is it required for closure purposes?
I ‘ll use the trite “yes if you don’t have to give up the farm”
This is going to be the bestest all star game EVER!
THe yankees have a lot of old parts on there team. If they start trading away there top prospects they will be in trouble for the years to come. They have enough to win a world series this year. Chamberlain, Hughes, Montero, Mccalister and Melancon should all be untouchables.
So guys, my brother’s in that crowd in St. Louis somewhere.
I wonder if I can find him.
Goota split.
Go AL!
Erica – True Blood is my one show per week that I won’t miss, and that no one can interrupt me while I’m watching unless its a terrorist attack kind of emergency, lol. Has been since the first episode. I think that you might really have to like supernatural stuff though to be into it. I’ve read all the books and I like that they’ve gone a few different directions from the books.
Abdababdaserser
July 14th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
“Erica – always OPPC July 14th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Will the President wear an AL or NL hat?? or just go hatless???”
Who cares?
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Obviously, you don’t. But these are things I think about. So next time, why don’t you just scroll past a comment if you don’t like it, rather than be unpleasent in your response
Uncle E -
I missed a lot today. What game are you guys playing?
And Erica -
Dan Fogelberg is one of my favorite musicians, for many moods. “Longer” was our wedding song. “Leader of the Band,” “Run for the Roses” and “Same Old Lang Syne” are my favorites. The last one is my melancholy song. Along with “In Your Wildest Dreams” by the Moody Blues.”
Has everyone gone on the record with their feelings about Halladay?
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I need a holiday from Halladay talk
I think I will predict a 5-4 or 5-3 AL win, just because.
OT – today I was thinking about the song “happy birthday”. Talk about something that could have collected some royalties if there was a way to collec them!
It also made me wonder who wrote the song. Not enough to do extensive research, mind you, but I did find that two sisters came up with the tune in the 1800s (I think). They were elementary school teachers or something. They made up the song “Good morning to you” with the tune that would become the one sung to “Happy Birthday.” The first time the words to happy birthday appeared in print it was in a Fred Coleman songbook in 1924. That all came from one website and I do think I have recorded it correctly!
Rebecca -
History is a great major for ending up in journalism. Research, research, research!
“At This Moment” by Billy Vera.
Nobody else remembers that heart-wrenching scene? (Well, technically some of y’alls weren’t born yet).
“Ok saddest song EVER?”
Liza Minelli version of New York, New York?
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 14th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
“Has everyone gone on the record with their feelings about Halladay?”
Not everyone.
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Me neither. I have very conflicting emotions. This Halladay ordeal is driving me crazy
Washburn is a guy I want pitching AGAINST us, not FOR us.
My own feelings are that I want Roy Halladay as I think acquiring him gives the team the best chance to maximize its chances to win titles before the old guard of Jeter/Posada/Mo exits the stage.
But I can’t decide which of Joba/Phil I would want to trade, which means that deep down I want to keep them both and want to win with them both and see them both as pillars of our rotation for years to come, the building blocks of more years of Yankee contention.
It’s up to Mr. Cashman to reconcile those opposing feelings.
pat
July 14th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
“Ok saddest song EVER?”
Liza Minelli version of New York, New York?
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LOL
Perfect answer
Mentioning a politician’s name only leads to bad things and inappropriate political banter on these boards.
That’s why it’s never a good idea.
Doreen:
I won’t lie.
When I do make baseball arguments now I don’t even think about going to BR; I just do. It’s an always-source-your-stuff kind of thing.
However, I do have greater freedom in the style of writing I do than I would if I remained in academia.
Wilpons lost $700 million to Madoff
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holy cannoli.
Doreen-
I cannot listen to “Leader of the Band” without sobbing like a baby by the end of the song. Seriously. Tissues come out.
“Longer” is a very nice choice for a wedding song. I felt bad when he died
Pena is our CF of the future. He can bunt, hit and run, play great defense and be a solid role plater like Paul O’Neal
m -
I do.
At the bus station, right?
Would the Jays do SJ’s proposed deal of Joba + AJAX + Romine + Pena + Swisher for Halladay + Rios or would they demand Montero in any proposal?
I’m of the opinion that since the Yankees are a division rival and they don’t want Halladay to bludgeon them for 4 years straight, they will want the Yankees top prospect even if that means the Yankees overpay.
The Twins demanded all AL teams overpay for Johan Santana let alone their division rivals. They didn’t want the face of their franchise to dominate them and in turn weaken their fanbase.
Can the Blue Jays really afforded to risk losing more fans at this time?
Would the Jays do SJ’s proposed deal of Joba + AJAX + Romine + Pena + Swisher for Halladay + Rios or would they demand Montero in any proposal?
I’m of the opinion that since the Yankees are a division rival and they don’t want Halladay to bludgeon them for 4 years straight, they will want the Yankees top prospect even if that means the Yankees overpay.
The Twins demanded all AL teams overpay for Johan Santana let alone their division rivals. They didn’t want the face of their franchise to dominate them and in turn weaken their fanbase.
Can the Blue Jays really afforded to risk losing more fans at this time?
My best sad song is Hallelujah/ Jeff Buckley
My best glad song is Solsbury Hill/ Peter Gabriel
Erica,
Me, too. Such a poet, I think he was.
Angel (OPPC) – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
July 14th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Erica – True Blood is my one show per week that I won’t miss, and that no one can interrupt me while I’m watching unless its a terrorist attack kind of emergency, lol. Has been since the first episode. I think that you might really have to like supernatural stuff though to be into it. I’ve read all the books and I like that they’ve gone a few different directions from the books.
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For me that would be a combination of Grey’s Anatomy and The Office. I will not go to work on Friday until I have seen both. In fact, I stupidly accepted a date in May without realizing it was the season finale of Grey’s that night. I got home at 12:30 and started watching until 2am, even though I had to be up at 6. Its a sickness
Joba is immature, uncoachable, and no longer throws 100 MPH
No brainer I would trade him over Hughes, who is mature, coachable, has excellent BB/K ratio, and has a high pitching IQ.
I know one thing for certain if Joba or Hughes ended up going to the Jays in any Halladay deal…..
There would be no Joba or Hughes debate on their roles. Whomever would be put into the rotation and left there for good.
No GM is going to ask for Joba or Hughes and then stick that high end arm in the bullpen.
Maybe the media hacks should take note.
“Wilpons lost $700 million to Madoff”
No wonder they can’t afford any moves that would actually help their team
Doreen
picks song to go with these emotions
mad
glad
sad
scared
my originals never posted – we took a different tack using song that evoked the emotion nat that had the word in it
mad mad about you Carlisle
glad I’m so glad Cream
sad Sad songs say so much Elton
scared Scared Lennon/Oko
Erica,
“Longer” came out about 2 months before we our wedding. I thought it was serendipity.
Doreen,
To far back to remember the “details”, but this is a blurb from a “top 25 break up songs” site I just found.
24. At This Moment (Billy and the Beaters)
You remember this from Family Ties, right? Alex dancing with his girl? I have loved that song ever since, and it still gets airplay. For the dumpee who loves his ex so much that he only wants her to be happy.
Paul O’neill was a roll player?
In his 9 seasons with the Yankees he was a 4 time All Star, won a batting title, and had an OPS of about .870.
“My best sad song is Hallelujah/ Jeff Buckley”
I keep thinking that the song’s about David and Bathsheba
“I heard there was a secret chord
that David played and it pleased the lord
but you don’t care for music do ya
Well I heard it goes
the fourth the fifth
the minor fall and the major lift
the baffled king composing HALLELUJAH!”
Man that song is so powerful
“Pena is our CF of the future. He can bunt, hit and run, play great defense and be a solid role plater like Paul O’Neal”
boy i hope this is sarcasm
Bronx 77 July 14th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Joba is immature, uncoachable, and no longer throws 100 MPH
No brainer I would trade him over Hughes, who is mature, coachable, has excellent BB/K ratio, and has a high pitching IQ.
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LOL. Yes, I’m sure you felt this way last season when it was Hughes who had the terrible season and couldn’t win a single game the entire year.
Joba is immature? The HORROR!!!!!
I don’t care who you are – you’re not going to find a boatload of mature 23 yr old kids in America doing anything, much less pitching in the big leagues.
m
July 14th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
“At This Moment” by Billy Vera.
Nobody else remembers that heart-wrenching scene? (Well, technically some of y’alls weren’t born yet).
coming back to me Alex breaks up with Cox
Or Skippy and Mallory
Pat Great answer
Mark
July 14th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Pena is our CF of the future. He can bunt, hit and run, play great defense and be a solid role plater like Paul O’Neal
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Best. Post. Ever.
Melky is more of a roll player.
O’Neill was a role player; it was just a very important role!
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 14th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
“My best sad song is Hallelujah/ Jeff Buckley”
I keep thinking that the song’s about David and Bathsheba
“I heard there was a secret chord
that David played and it pleased the lord
but you don’t care for music do ya
Well I heard it goes
the fourth the fifth
the minor fall and the major lift
the baffled king composing HALLELUJAH!”
Man that song is so powerful
Agree
Leonard Cohen wrote it
Just got home and catching up –
1. For a day when the Yanks aren’t playing, some great comments. I really loved the quotes about Joe D. and Mickey. I really did. Years from now, we will be reading quotes about Jeter and Mo.
2. I don’t think Joba or Phil will be required to get Halladay, if that’s what Cashman wants. All it will take is to also take Rios or Wells and their contracts. JP will jump at that, as it will make him a genius in the eyes of his superiors who are looking to sell the team. I would prefer Rios, younger, and less money owed.
3. Doreen – I hope your blues pass. I really do. And I also want Curtis Granderson. He’s a University of Illinois-Chicago graduate, as I am, and he’s a pretty good ballplayer to boot.
During the Santana trade talks, I suggested that the Yankees should trade Joba and protect the depth of their farm. I think the front office should’ve been mindful of the possibility that Joba couldn’t stick in the starting rotation. If Joba turned into a reliever, even a dominant closer, that would’ve been a trade the Twins took and would’ve been a steal.
I feel the same way about Jesus Montero in these Halladay talks. I think there’s as much a chance of him not sticking at catcher as there was Joba not sticking in the rotation. So the Yankees could be trading nothing more than a prospect headed for 1b. I think trading a young 1b like LaPorta for an ace like CC Sabathia is market rate. Jesus Montero is still looked at as a catcher and his trade value will never be higher.
If the Yankees offered Jesus Montero in the Halladay talks, they could preserve much of their minor league depth and possibly be able to keep both Hughes and Chamberlain.
Thanks, Uncle E.
I’d have a tough time choosing one song for each mood, though. And I’ve never thought about “mad.” Hmmm…
Oh I missed the original post… O’Neill was a role PLATER. That was his role!
“Pena is our CF of the future. He can bunt, hit and run, play great defense and be a solid role plater like Paul O’Neal”
Wow
Where do these people come from?
Who is “Paul O’Neal”?
Leonard Cohen is the master of the Sad song. He writes some of the most depressing songs.
No song makes me mad. Nothing scares me.
Sad? “At this moment”, a lot of the Evita soundtrack
melancholy? “Only Time” by Enya (Friends soundtrack)
glad? Frank Sinatra’s “New York, New York”
, that stupid “Don’t worry, be happy” song
happy? “Pass the Dutchie”
m,
I have heard “At This Moment” quite a few times, but I’m a touch too young to remember it on Family Ties. I can tell you from experience that it is next to impossible to sing on Karaoke!
I don’t really focus on music when I am sad, but I do always play “Eye of the Tiger” when I work out.
And I will respectfully abstain from political talk as well.
Paul O’Neill was a waiter?
No, no, no.
Alex breaks up with the girl played by the actress that is now his wife!!!! I was so sad at that episode. I can still see it.
But only because “m” brought it up, not because I sit around thinking about it or anything like that.
The Twins would not have traded for Joba to stick him in the pen. They already have a great closer – Joe Nathan.
They would have stuck him in the rotation and left him there. GMs don’t trade for huge arms like that to put them in the bullpen.
That’s not exactly maximizing their asset. No team does that.
You know what makes me sad? Hearing anything by Karen Carpenter. What a waste.
And when Whitney Houston passes away? Hearing anything by her will also make me sad. An even bigger waste of talent.
Some
sad songs
Glory Days – yep
Scenes from an Italian Restaraunt
Baker Street
The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Sunday Morning Coming Down
Doreen, I love Leader of the Band and Longer………and In Your Wildest Dreams!
I love the Carpenters, too…….I’m a music dork, lol
I use to watch Being Bobby Brown just to see crazy Whitney. Seems like she is off the drugs now and is trying to make a comeback, so that’s good.
Jeter’s comments about Halladay demonstrates why he’s the best at controlling the media and not allowing himself to becoming an unwanted storyline.
Regardless of where the Twins put him, if he couldn’t stay in the rotation in NY and was nothing more than a reliever here, trading Joba for Santana would’ve been a steal because it would’ve preserved the farm.
There were questions about Joba’s endurance since day 1. He threw explosive stuff in college as a starter, hit a wall and lost so much velocity that he dropped to the Yankees as a supplemental pick.
Likewise, since day one, there have been questions about Montero being too big for the catching position.
I feel like the only way to keep Joba + Hughes at this point while adding Halladay is to center a deal around Jesus Montero.
We don’t even know if the Jays would want Joba……
Betsy
July 14th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
I love the Carpenters, too…….I’m a music dork, lol
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Me too!!!! Karen Carpenter is probably my favorite voice ever.
I enjoy singing “Close to You” just as much as “I Feel Pretty!!!”
Rainy Days and Mondays
Joe from LI
Thanks so much. I have days where I’m a bit overwhelmed by some of my life circumstances, as I’m sure most of us are. But most of the time, I find a healthy state of denial or delusion actually helps.
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I’m with you – no songs come to mind for “mad.” When I’m mad there are no songs. And I’m not really a scared person.
Melancholy, romance, energy, sadness, nostalgia, these are more the things I get from the music I listen to.
Rock ‘n’ Roll by anyone from any era is the best for housecleaning, I’ll tell ya that.
Uncle Ellsworth
July 14th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Rainy Days and Mondays
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Oooh, that is a sad one. So is Superstar.
But “Top of the World” makes me smile everytime!
(You would never think I am 28)
It’s unfair to Girardi and the coaches (considering they are out of jobs if we fail), the old guard, and the new players (especially AJ who came here to win a ring) to ask this team to compete down the stretch with 2 starting pitchers.
Just like Cash said he couldn’t look MO in the eye and take him out of the pen… how can he look the old guard, his manager, and the rest of the team in the eye and tell them they have to try and make the playoffs with 2 starting pitchers and 3 question marks in a very tough division?
How can he look his bullpen pitchers in the eye and tell them they have to get 4-5 innings from them 3 games in a row?
It behooves Cashman to get 1 or 2 pitchers at any cost. Bannister, Davis etc. may not be great, but he has to try something. He can’t let this rotation go like this. It’s not fair to the players.
I imagine the trade airways are overloaded. I believe a 3-way deal with Milwaukee or Az for a SS and a contract player could be used to bargain for Halladay & Wells/Rios.
Alcides Escobar, Milwaukee (SS)
J.J. Hardy, Milwaukee (SS)
or
Stephen Drew, Arizona (SS) & Eric Byrnes (OF)
Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls is a good sad song too.
Cash, couldn’t agree more………but the media made it sound like Jeter wouldn’t want Doc, lol. He should get credit for not tossing aside his teammates like yesterday’s garbage.
Ugh, “Dog & Butterfly” by Heart
and Bette Midler’s “Wind Beneath my Wings”
To try revisionist history on how trading Santana then would have prevented the Yankees from going after Halladay now is quite a stretch. One reason is I’m not sure if the Yankees would’ve signed CC last offseason??? There’s food for thought from both sides of that argument regarding that possiblity.
Good news!
http://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/2640272505
A healthy Marte will help this pen tremendously
If the Jays are being prepped for sale, then what JP wants is to cut payroll. Cutting payroll cuts financial obligations for the future owners, and makes for an easier sales pitch, especially in this down economy.
I may be a cynic, but I am coming more and more to the conclusion that saying Roy Halladay is available is a marketing ploy to unload Vernon Wells, or at least Alex Rios and their contracts.
JP will ask for Joba, and any other cheap and highly talented player, but what he really wants is to keep his job, and to do that, he needs to unload payroll, IMO.
I may be wrong, but I think that whomever is willing to relieve him of salary obligations will win the “Halladay” sweepstakes. What it really is is the “Relieve JP Ricciardi of expensive contracts” sweepstakes.
It’s actually very hard for me to remember Teixeira in the ’05 All-Star game. Bobby Abreu’s performance in the Home Run Derby completely overshadows any memories that I have of the game itself.
All I know is that the AL won the game, of course.
I honestly feel that trading for Santana would’ve left Arod to sign with one of the LA teams after he opted out and CC would still be here.
“Cash, couldn’t agree more………but the media made it sound like Jeter wouldn’t want Doc, lol. He should get credit for not tossing aside his teammates like yesterday’s garbage.”
They attempted to make it sound that way, but it’s not getting any traction. If Jeter stated otherwise, it would be on the back page of the Post and News.
Actually DOreen you took it to a whole new Level – songs that YOU have for a mood. We were going with the emotions of the singer – example:
Mad: “Hinski with your best shot”
your way even better
Erica, I love Close to You……I’m not sure I can pick a favorite Carpenter’s song, though. I love On top of the World and Rainy Days and Mondays…………I know there are others that I’m forgetting.
A song I love when I want to be inspired is My Way……one of my favorites of all time
m -
Oh, my – yes. Whitney Houston. What a talent gone to waste. She reminds me of Dwight Gooden. Makes me very, very sad. Both of those people.
Karen Carpenter had one of the purest voices I ever heard. I loved the lower tones of her voice. So smooth, soothing, evocative. Another sad, sad story. She was extremely popular when I was growing up. She looked like the girl next door.
Joba is an easier sell to the Jays fanbase (that’s where his hype may come in handy), but Hughes is the safer bet for Toronto.
Hughes is mature, has a high pitching IQ, and is a hard worker to go along with his great talent.
Joba’s stock has fallen a lot this year— from the run ins with Posada, coming into camp out of shape, decreased velocity, regression in his performance, and his overall stubbornness. Plus his injury concerns.
I don’t think JP can gamble on Joba’s upside. Hughes is more of a sure thing. But that’s the same reason I don’t want to trade Hughes and would be willing to trade Joba.
Tough decision.
“I honestly feel that trading for Santana would’ve left Arod to sign with one of the LA teams after he opted out and CC would still be here.”
You could feel that way, but it doesn’t mean you would’ve been right nor the Yankees better without Arod. It’s something we will never know for sure.
I don’t play any particular song when I am mad, but Michael Bolton’s music really makes me mad.
One of my favorite Carpenters’ songs would have to be “We’ve Only Just Begun.”
Cash, that’s so true……….
Demo, I feel the same way……..
However, what if JP has Joba rated higher than Hughes which if so that’s the pitcher he wants in return.
Betsy
July 14th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Erica, I love Close to You……I’m not sure I can pick a favorite Carpenter’s song, though. I love On top of the World and Rainy Days and Mondays…………I know there are others that I’m forgetting.
A song I love when I want to be inspired is My Way……one of my favorites of all time
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We’ve Only Just Begun!!!!
I also love Sing- because my mom used to sing it to me when I was little
“send in the clowns” also doubles as Blog theme song on Gamethreads
OMG – I’m really famous, lol -get this:
http://kimberlyjones.mlblogs.c....._a_ho.html
I got a mention on Kim’s blog too …..no autographs, please……lol
Which is America’s best baseball city? was a poll taken on espn and with over 91,000 votes, New York came in 1st at 28.1, Boston was 2nd with 26.8, Chicago with 21.4, St. Louis at 17.2 and Los Angeles with 6.5!!
Uncle Ellsworth
July 14th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 14th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
“My best sad song is Hallelujah/ Jeff Buckley”
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His father wrote a better song…one of the least played songs because so few outside of the San Francisco/Monterrey music scene knew him. Definately part of the flower power generation. “Once I Was”.
Once I Was
Once I was a soldier
And I fought on foreign sands for you
Once I was a hunter
And I brought home fresh meat for you
Once I was a lover
And I searched behind your eyes for you
And soon there’ll be another
To tell you I was just a lie
And sometimes I wonder
Just for a while
Will you remember me
And though you have forgotten
All of our rubbish dreams
I find myself searching
Through the ashes of our ruins
For the days when we smiled
And the hours that ran wild
With the magic of our eyes
And the silence of our words
And sometimes I wonder
Just for a while
Will you remember me
Oh, I love Sing also, Erica……..great song, just so peppy.
There are way too many songs that I could list as favorites. One song I adore is Don’t give up on us Baby – by David Soul (from Starsky and Hutch). He was a one-hit wonder, but it’s a beautiful song.
I love We Didn’t Start the Fire – first because I’m a history buff and second because I think I have the song completely memorized, lol
6:35 p.m. ET
• AL manager Joe Maddon said he planned to hold back his two most versatile position players — Ben Zobrist and Chone Figgins — because they play so many different positions and would give him more maneuverability late in the game.
• Maddon said that three pitchers — Tim Wakefield, Josh Beckett and Justin Verlander — probably wouldn’t pitch unless the game went extra innings. In Wakefield’s case, Maddon conceded it was a difficult decision to tell a 42-year-old first-time All-Star he might not pitch. “It’s all about, this game does matter,” Maddon said. “And he’s the perfect guy, if this game would go extra innings, to carry us a long way.”
• Maddon said that Mariano Rivera would be the closer if his team had a save situation because “that’s the right thing to do.”
• Maddon hasn’t ruled out the possibility that Brandon Inge could wind up catching in this game if things get crazy enough. And Maddon said he actually called Inge last weekend to see if that was OK. “I called him Saturday and asked the question, if the opportunity should arise, in an emergency, could he do that? And he said that was fine.”
–Jayson Stark
I’m gonna have to take a look at my music library. I’m so used to doing “random play” lately. Back in the days of actually having to select CDs, I’d actually choose music to suit my mood. I think that’s better. Thanks, Uncle E, for the inspiration!
I love Send in the Clowns, too……
Betsy: Damn girl, you’re making us look bad!
GB7
I knew you would join in with a gem.
Okay, he’s a sad one because of the back story:
Eric Clapton’s “Tears in Heaven”
Betsy- What did you say in the phone call to get a shout out from Kim?
Los Angeles was a candidate for best baseball city?
LOL
Elvis has a couple of pretty good sad songs- “In the Ghetto” and “Don’t Cry Daddy.”
Back to my point about Jesus Montero.
He could turn out to be a star. He has a good chance to be a Hanley Ramirez type talent.
But this team needs more balance across the roster.
Preserving minor league depth is absolutely crucial at this stage in the organization’s plan. The Yankees need a fuller roster with reserve ammunition at as many positions as possible rather than one more big star playing 1 position. They need to keep as much talent across the board as possible.
If the Yankees could keep Hughes + Joba while adding Halladay, it’s a coup.
Betsy
July 14th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I love Send in the Clowns, too……
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Judy Collins wrote a great song and everyone has sung it. The best version that I ever heard was by Bernadette Peters.
Back in the late ’60s, we had a Change Of Command ceremony for the incoming and outgoing division Commanders and as the two Generals were coming on to the parade field, the Army Band were playing “Send In The Clowns”. The incoming commander asked about the song, and when he found out, he had the band master transferred to….Vietnam.
Yes, Randy…this too took place at Ft. Hood, Texas. Seems like the only way they could think of to get rid of people was to ship them off to Vietnam.
Betsy Woo Hoo!
So far Away
Carol King
Betsy
July 14th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Oh, I love Sing also, Erica……..great song, just so peppy.
There are way too many songs that I could list as favorites. One song I adore is Don’t give up on us Baby – by David Soul (from Starsky and Hutch). He was a one-hit wonder, but it’s a beautiful song.
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When I was in Atlantic City last month, there was DJ in the casino bar doing some sort of “name that artist” game. I was walking by and he played “Don’t Give Up on Us Baby”. No one knew who did it. So I walked into the bar, yelled “David Soul” and walked out a second later with a lovely Coors Light T-shirt. LOL
I Can’t Make You Love Me- Bonnie Raitt
GreenBeret7
July 14th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Betsy
July 14th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I love Send in the Clowns, too……
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Judy Collins wrote a great song and everyone has sung it.
Sondheim?
Ira Hayes. Johnny Cash.
-dennis
m
July 14th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Okay, he’s a sad one because of the back story:
Eric Clapton’s “Tears in Heaven”
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“River Of Tears” and “My Father’s Eyes” were great tear jerkers by Clapton, too.
Jen, I called about Phil……but Kim asked me if I was Betsy from Pete’s blog before we could even get past my question, lol. She clearly reads the blog – I didn’t know that. My name isn’t exactly common, so it helps I suppose in being recognized. Also, I was very busy that night posting, lol…….
In the Ghetto is one of my hated songs of all time – it’s way too depressing. I could take prozac after hearing that……
The Best version of “Send in the Clowns”
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1710.....the-clowns
Best baseball cities:
NY
Boston
St. Louis
Chicago
Best football cities (IMO)
Green Bay
Kansas City
Dallas
DC
Best hockey cities (IMO)
Detroit
Montreal
New York (we have three area teams…)
Edmonton
Best Basketball Cities
Chicago
Los Angeles
Seattle ( :’( )
What do you think?
Betsy -
Did you ever see the internet pictorial that went a long with “We Didn’t Start the Fire?” It was great. But I don’t have a link – it was a while ago that I saw it. That is one of the most inspired songs I’ve ever heard. It always amazes me the genius some of these great songwriters have – their ease with words and rhythm. Amazing.
“When I was in Atlantic City last month, there was DJ in the casino bar doing some sort of “name that artist” game. I was walking by and he played “Don’t Give Up on Us Baby”. No one knew who did it. So I walked into the bar, yelled “David Soul” and walked out a second later with a lovely Coors Light T-shirt. LOL”
pretty cool
Rebecca.
Chicago has to be a top football town.
-dennis
GB, I think I’ve only heard Judy Collins sing it – she has a very pure voice.
I also love Barry Manilow (don’t shoot me!)…….
Green Beret 7
Judy Collins did not write Send in the Clowns – Stephen Sondheim did, for the musical “A Little Night Music.” Judy Collins popularized it, though.
Best football cities (IMO)
Green Bay
Kansas City
Dallas why not Pittsburgh here?
DC
Uncle Ellsworth
July 14th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
GreenBeret7
July 14th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Betsy
July 14th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I love Send in the Clowns, too……
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Judy Collins wrote a great song and everyone has sung it.
Sondheim?
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Man….did I screw that up. You’re correct, Ellie, and, I was wro……..
Sorry, but, I just can’t ever type that last phrase.
Erica, good for you!
Dennis, I’m a Bears fan…..I’ve never seen a game in Chicago, but yes – Chicago is a great football town. It helps that their history is littered with all-time greats.
Okay I thought of a sad song
“It’s Too Late,” by Carole King.
But I love “Tapestry” – another melancholic, retrospective, introspective type song.
If Cashman pulls off a Halladay deal then Alanis Morrisette sings ” Thank U ”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJlxipQoI30
“Man….did I screw that up. You’re correct, Ellie, and, I was wro……..
Sorry, but, I just can’t ever type that last phrase.”
very Fonzie of you
I have to say, Papelbon, earlier, did not turn me off during his interview. I was surprised by that. However, Youkilis, when he was interviewed along with Teixeira, made me completely uncomfortable.
Yahoo had an interesting poll on it today.
Do you think the ASG should be played on a weekend so that it could become a bigger event like the Superbowl weekend? (Obviously with much less on the line)
It would be a logistical nightmare for the schedule makers, but it could be an interesting idea. What do you think??
I wonder if the Yanks took Wells ($5M), BJ Ryan (½ of $12M Contract) & Halladay could they make a deal quickly for much less. Some Yankee salaries would have to go somewhere. LOL! Any ideas?
Doreen
July 14th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Green Beret 7
Judy Collins did not write Send in the Clowns – Stephen Sondheim did, for the musical “A Little Night Music.” Judy Collins popularized it, though.
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But, I don’t make mistakes. I’ll get that oversight on the music copyright corrected, tomorrow.
Before the original Browns moved, Cleveland was a terrific football city.
Doreen, no I haven’t – maybe I’ll check it out later because I’d love to see it. I know Billy Joel was lauded by teachers for that song, and rightly so. For a long time, I could never understand the below lyrics:
Children of Thalidomide.
That is, I thought he was saying, Children of the Little Mai. It makes NO sense, but eventually I figured it out……..
Chicago is a Bears town. More than the Bulls and Cubs and slightly above Ozzie’s nine….
-dennis
Erica
You just made me think of another sad song “I Can’t Make You Love Me” -
We Didn’t Start the Fire
Harry Truman/Doris Day/Red China/Johnny Ray/South Pacific/Walter Winchell/Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCartney/Richard Nixon/Studebaker/Television/North Korea/South Korea/Marilyn Monroe
Eisenhower/vaccine/England’s got a new queen/maricano/liberace/Satayana good-bye
(that’s what I can do from memory)
Rebecca,
This kills me to say this, but shame on you for omitting Boston as a basketball city (good job).
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Yahoo had an interesting poll on it today.
Do you think the ASG should be played on a weekend so that it could become a bigger event like the Superbowl weekend? (Obviously with much less on the line)
It would be a logistical nightmare for the schedule makers, but it could be an interesting idea. What do you think??
No I rather watch the Yanks on a weekend and teams would lose Lots of money
Uncle Ellsworth
July 14th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
“Man….did I screw that up. You’re correct, Ellie, and, I was wro……..
Sorry, but, I just can’t ever type that last phrase.”
very Fonzie of you
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Right down to the 7 white, pressed t-shirts on hangers, in my closet. All have an identical small three corner tear on the upper back shoulder.
Betsy that is cool!
Seattle doesn’t belong as one of the best basketball city. You can put the Knicks in there though.
Agree with the Hockey and Baseball cities.
But I would not put Dallas and DC for football.
Green Bay
Chicago
Pittsburgh
New York
Philadelphia
betsy-That’s nothing, I’ve been mentioned by Steve Goldman several times.
“i wanted to ‘build’ my own major when I was in college.”
that’s what i did.
i majored in BEACH101 while living on the strand in manhattan beach, ca
Trouble in the Suez!
If the NL wins tonight, nobody freak out.
The Yankees play well on the road, heck some of our pitchers are more comfortable there.
For those who do not know, Steve Goldman appeared on the Casey Stengel Yankeeography…talk about celebrity…
Erica,
I thought they were doing it during the week because weekend games are big revenue producers?
The Cola Wars!
Guess it’s that obvious that I’m a baseball/hockey gal, huh?!
I’m baseball/football, w/hockey in third to stop me from going crazy during the winter (once a week is not enough)!
Obama in the clubhouses.
Did you guys see Obama dis Jeter? Called him the old man of the group. lol.
Betsy July 14th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
OMG – I’m really famous, lol -get this:
http://kimberlyjones.mlblogs.c....._a_ho.html
I got a mention on Kim’s blog too …..no autographs, please……lol
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Aw. That’s awesome Betsy.
rayvt – I think if Cash picks up an expensive OF – Rios or Wells – then Halladay is his. The players the Yankees will have to send over will be just filler. The transfer of money-owed is the key.
It always comes down to the money. At least it seems to.
Has anyone else noticed that Tom Verducci names a “New Face of Baseball” in every one of his articles?
Pregame show? Holy mother of Jesus Montero, we’re not getting the first pitch til about 10 PM, are we?
m -
I missed that! I was so busy trying to find the Fox HD station. I still don’t know these channels by heart! I was on MLB, so I missed that. Oh, nuts. I did see him rankin’ on Pujols for not winning the HR derby in his hometown, though.
How do they pick the coaches? Strictly personal preference?
does chone figgins look like beatlejuice?
An awful lot of Rays there aren’t there???????
Did Torre do the same thing?
Did I miss the al being introduced?
Hey Rebecca… for Hockey towns don’t count Buffalo out of it. It’s BIG TIME there.
What’s with all the Philly players getting loud ovations?
I wonder if The Dark Knight’s playing on HBO.
Trevor-WS champions.
Ryan Howard is from St. Louis.
Michael Jay: You’re definitley right there. I roomed with a Sabres fan at Syracuse; she’d come over to my side of the room to watch Sabres games b/c she didn’t have a TV and I only got Sabres and not Devils games.
There’s the man of the hour, Roy Halladay
Josh Hamilton is playing????? How come I didn’t know that????? I thought he was on the DL and would be replaced. Oh, well, can’t keep up with everything. I knew he was voted in, just thought he wasn’t playing.
Is it just me or did everyone from WFAN go to Penn State?
Ok saddest song EVER? Who’s got it?
Melencholy counts too
Sunday Morning Coming Down
Wait – that’s cool!
Jen, S.A. – thanks!
From We Didn’t Start the Fire (besides what was stated earlier)
Rosenbergs/H Bomb/Sugar Ray/Pamunjon/Brando/the King and I and the Catcher in the Rye
Joseph Stalin/Alan Cobb/Nassar and Prokofiov/Rockefeller/Campanella Communist block
**I think the Stalin verse comes before the Rosenberg one, but I forget, lol**
Roy Cohn/Juan Peron/Toscanini/Dancron/Din Dim Phu (bad spelling, lol) falls…..Rock around the clock.
Einstein/JamesDean/Brooklyn’s got a winning team/Davy Crockett/Peter Pan/Elvis Presley/Disneyland
Bob Dole/Budapest/Alabama/Kruschev/Princess Grace/Peyton Place/Trouble in the Suez
Anyhow, no need to retype the whole song – but it’s a history lesson in 5 minutes, lol
Interesting how last year the Cubs sent 7 players, and this year they have only 1.
The version of “We Don’t Start the Fire” I have is a live recording–when the verse “Brooklyn’s got a winning team” comes up the crowd just roars.
Did Jason Bay get booed because he plays for the Sox or is it something else?
what-up, everyone
important question: Did Texeria get booed or cheered ?
Betsy-You need to know the right people. Celebrity gets you places.
jabl27
That’s a great Johnny Cash song. His later stuff on Def American is really, really depressing.
vinny-cheered.
Doreen
July 14th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Erica
You just made me think of another sad song “I Can’t Make You Love Me”
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Interesting Doreen. Maybe cause I posted that one at 7:49. LOL
No idea regarding Bay but I noticed the same thing.
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Suzanne by Leonard Cohen, sung by Judy Collins.
As Time Goes By – such a classic.
Anything Edith Piaf. I love torch songs.
I Wants To Stay Here sung by Ella Fitzgerald
Nobody got booed except for Ted Lilly because he’s a Cub.
Buffalo Sabers fans are crazy. When I was at UB there was a story of 2 hockey fans who threw the T.V. out the window and broke some poor guys skull because a call upset them.
This happened in August. They were watching a VHS of a playoff game from the 80s.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....o_mar.html
Marte News!
m
July 14th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Erica,
I thought they were doing it during the week because weekend games are big revenue producers?
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That is one of the agruments against the idea
“vinny-cheered”
thank you. I love ST Louis, when it pertains to baseball.
in one word: class
Buffalo’s gonna get even more Sabres mad when the Bills move to Toronto…
jabl27
July 14th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Ok saddest song EVER? Who’s got it?
Melencholy counts too
Sunday Morning Coming Down
“And the beer I had for breakfast wasn’t bad so I had one more desert then I fumbled through my closet to find my cleanest dirty shirt”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RLiuPRMJy8
was on my list probably my choice
“Nobody got booed except for Ted Lilly because he’s a Cub.”
Jason Bay did.
George Bush (the second) looks really old all of a sudden
The Red Sox get boo’d, because they whipped the Cards in 2004 badly.
Jimmy “I’ll never Lie to you” Carter looks awful!
Erica, why get all worked up about Halliday? It is or is isn’t, and the one thing it isn’t is our call!
But conflicted also and happier not getting clawed for the “wrong” opinion, ha ha.
kid had Jeter’s poster on his wall.
I kind of wish I could just fast foward thru all of this………..
“George Bush (the second) looks really old all of a sudden”
Thought the same thing.
is commenting on former Pres’ looks permitted?
Erica, you are definitely reading my thoughts tonight. I was just thinking “just play the damned game.”
Uncle Ellsworth
July 14th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
is commenting on former Pres’ looks permitted?
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Why not? I never said if they were bad/good presidents. I am a model of non-political talk
They all look old.
Man, I watch something like this and then I realize I’ve done utterly nothing with my life…
kudos for MLB for making the charitable donations of americans the focal point of this game. that was great.
Uncle- I am not mentioning politics, merely talking about how someone looks. It just so happens that he was a president.
Rebecca… shhhh. Please, for my sanity.
You know the rioting that happened in LA after the NBA finals? Picture Buffalo if the Bills won the Superbowl. There would be deaths.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 14th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Erica, you are definitely reading my thoughts tonight. I was just thinking “just play the damned game.”
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I am so glad you were thinking that too. I was worried that would make me a terrible person. I am all for commuinty service, but not when I want to watch baseball
Youkilis didn’t get any kind of reaction from the crowd. Most of the Sox got little reaction now that I think about it.
Its kind of nice a Missouri girl is singing the National Anthem in St Louis
Poor darlin’. I was half watching and didn’t see that boy in the wheelchair.
There but for the grace of God go I…
nothing wrong with wanting to get to the game but mlb had a golden opportunity to possibly help americans become better people and they didn’t let the chance go to waste. good job by them.
I might be a little slow on the uptake, but it occured to me for the first time during the intros that David Ortiz did not make the team. I can’t remember the last time he wasn’t an all-star. It just feels like he is perpetually there
which kid?
FWIW, my brother’s in the crowd somewhere. He’s a Yankee fan. That explains the Mo and Jeter ovations. (He’s an anti-Teixeira person. You’d have to ask him about that, I got nothing…)
“is commenting on former Pres’ looks permitted?”
Yup, Pete seems okay with comments on looks except on Kim Jones.
How can somebody be anti-Mark Texeira?
Gotta say that presidential thing all the way up to players shaking hands with the nominees was very nice. Very nice.
kinda kidding guys
who looks better George Bush Sr. or Cheryl Crow?
That close up of Sheryl’s eyes is brutal, she is kind looking 47 all of a sudden
Joe-I was thinking the same thing.
pat July 14th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
“is commenting on former Pres’ looks permitted?”
Yup, Pete seems okay with comments on looks except on Kim Jones.
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gee I wonder why?
“Joe from Long Island July 14th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
How can somebody be anti-Mark Texeira?”
My brother’s exact words when I told him about the Teixeira signing:
“I don’t like it. I don’t like the way the Yankees are going. I think they are going to go bankrupt.”
“Man, I watch something like this and then I realize I’ve done utterly nothing with my life…”
Don’t do that to yourself. I’ve done that over and over and it isn’t productive. If you’ve shown kindness to someone who needed it – and I’m sure you have – you may have impacted that person’s life in ways you will never know. They say throwing one small stone into a large lake still has a ripple effect.
that was a good anthem, straight up, no vocal gymnastics, no trying to fancy it up. nice job, sheryl
Uncle Ellsworth
July 14th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
jabl27
July 14th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Ok saddest song EVER? Who’s got it?
Melencholy counts too
Sunday Morning Coming Down
“And the beer I had for breakfast wasn’t bad so I had one more desert then I fumbled through my closet to find my cleanest dirty shirt”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RLiuPRMJy8
was on my list probably my choice
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“Down To Stems And Seeds Again Blues”, by Billy C. Cody (Commander Cody).
Is he a younger brother?
Rebecca-Wow.
Just wow.
Get your brother a link to this page and we’ll show him how ridiculous that sounds.
Over/Under on the number of Jeter commercials before the end of the game- 10
Hint: there have already been 2 since player intros.
trisha-Self-deprecating humor has it’s place.
I understand MLB wants the game to be prime time, but would it kill them to start the ceremonies 30 minutes earlier??
Its already 8:35 and there has not been a pitch thrown yet. ARGH!!
It might be another LoHud PJ party
I am soooo excited to see AL hitters vs. Tim Lincecum. I absolutely love him and as much as I want the American League to win it would be nice to see him prove himself against the elite of AL hitting. Obviously 2 innings isn’t that good of a judge but it will still be cool.
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“Down To Stems And Seeds Again Blues”, by Billy C. Cody (Commander Cody).
I Knew you were a closet hippy!
pat
July 14th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
“is commenting on former Pres’ looks permitted?”
Yup, Pete seems okay with comments on looks except on Kim Jones.
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Not commenting.
Joe and Wait:
No, this is my older brother.
Who has a big time important job, too.
My younger brother could care less who’s on the Yankees, long as they win.
it’s gotta be killing mcgwire that he can’t be a part of this…
Uncle Ellsworth
July 14th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
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“Down To Stems And Seeds Again Blues”, by Billy C. Cody (Commander Cody).
I Knew you were a closet hippy!
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And, I ain’t even gotta closet.
My bet is 8:43, first pitch.
Looks like I’m gonna lose.
Hatless-
CWS jacket only
Rebecca-Give him a link to this page either way.
I find this SOOOOOO boring.
Just get the game going, let the AL works it magic and get the Ys home field advantage in the world series. Is that too much to ask?!?
Bad camera shot. Did he throw a strike or bounce it?
Stan Musial. One of the two greatest pure hitters that I ever saw.
He’s what Don Mattingly would have been without the wrist and back issues. Right down to the batting stance. If you saw one, you saw both.
Did Obama win Missouri?
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 14th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
I find this SOOOOOO boring.
Just get the game going, let the AL works it magic and get the Ys home field advantage in the world series. Is that too much to ask?!?
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No. I would also like to ask that this game can end by 12:30. Not another 15 inning epic like last season
Yes !
Barack Obama likes the correct Sox.
so when do we get to actually see the pitch?
W T F was that?!?
Bush has a much better arm than Obama.
GB
Have you been reprimanded yet again?
Trevor
July 14th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Did Obama win Missouri?
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No
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Hatless-
CWS jacket only
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It was hiding the armored vest.
Um FOX is awful. How about a camera angle where you can see something!
77513 July 14th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Bush has a much better arm than Obama.
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really? Bush threw a perfect strike.
pat
July 14th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
GB
Have you been reprimanded yet again?
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Nah…I’ve been clean for 24 hours.
How did the Sux get 6 all-stars and we only got 3?
“trisha-Self-deprecating humor has it’s place.”
Dennis Eckersley calls Doc Halladay “Holiday”. I find it both unobservant and annoying. How in hell can you not know his last name is Halladay?
GreenBeret7
July 14th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Hatless-
CWS jacket only
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It was hiding the armored vest.
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Well, duh! I didn’t think I had to mention the vest as part of his outfit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1l40SUGabg
A pub with no beer.
Never heard this original (Dublniers only)
“Trevor
July 14th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Did Obama win Missouri?
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No”
Which is weird, becuse for the last half century it’s usually “as Missouri goes, so goes the nation”
Basic rule of thumb: cities go DEM, country goes GOP.
Wait, was that a new Pearl Jam Song?
i have a few suggestions for all star monday:
1. outfield throw competition: have a machine shoot a ball to the outfield. once it’s sent out, the clock starts and the player that throw it to home plate the fastest wins.
2. speed contest: have a runner at 1st base and then sound a horn. fastest one to cross home plate is the winner.
3. range contest: have a player at shortstop in a box. a ground ball machine will randomly shoot balls to the left and right of the box. the player that gets the most balls furthest away wins.
4. homerun competition: 5 players, 1 round, 10 outs.
each one takes about 45 mins to do resulting in a 3 hour all star monday that doesn’t put people to sleep.
speed + power + arm + fielding all competed against.
what do you think?
“No”
Figures, most of the mid-west states he lost.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 14th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
“trisha-Self-deprecating humor has it’s place.”
Dennis Eckersley calls Doc Halladay “Holiday”. I find it both unobservant and annoying. How in hell can you not know his last name is Halladay?
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Ask the 20 posters who kept spelling it wrong on the first day of Halladay trade madia.
Its improved greatly by now. Now sure what day of Halladay trade mania we are on, but I have having a hard time remembering what monopolized this board before it came along
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
GreenBeret7
July 14th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Hatless-
CWS jacket only
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It was hiding the armored vest.
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Well, duh! I didn’t think I had to mention the vest as part of his outfit
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He get’s a kickback from Jerry Reinsdorff for wearing it.
jennifer July 14th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
77513 July 14th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Bush has a much better arm than Obama.
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really? Bush threw a perfect strike.
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Oops apparently my reading comprehension left me today.
never mind!
Thank goodness Francesa is on vacation I could not deal with 5 hours of calls tomorrow complaining that the game started so late.
Bill-They should only have five anyway; Wakefield on that team is a joke.
Where were all the Secret Service agents?
“How did the Sux get 6 all-stars and we only got 3?”
The story goes that if NYers bothered voting for the All Stars the whole team would be Yankees…
djsunyc
NO. too much risk in getting hurt. Won’t happen
Erica I hear what you’re saying but wouldn’t you think an HOF pitcher might try to get it right or would know it well enough? It really did surprise me.
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 14th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
“trisha-Self-deprecating humor has it’s place.”
Dennis Eckersley calls Doc Halladay “Holiday”. I find it both unobservant and annoying. How in hell can you not know his last name is Halladay?
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Ask the 20 posters who kept spelling it wrong on the first day of Halladay trade madia.
Its improved greatly by now. Now sure what day of Halladay trade mania we are on, but I have having a hard time remembering what monopolized this board before it came along
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If the Yanks do get Halladay, will the city of NY declare it a “Christmas Halladay In July”?
Last year was awesome.
Whoever gets San Francisco in a short series in October is screwed.
I am not sure, but they might be throwing a pitch
that’s true jennifer – athletes these days are pansies.
i was watching an old astros game with nolan ryan. he was pitching in the 8th inning. he grabbed his arm in pain. no coach or medical guy came out. he went back to pitching and the announcer was talking about nolan having to make a choice whether to get tommy john this offseason.
these days, you go on the DL for hurt feelings…
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 14th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Last year was awesome.
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IF you didn’t need to be at work early the next morning.
Great game, but stunk if you had to be up early
ken rosenthal = cure for insomnia
Rebecca-I agree. their rotation is just sick. Unfortunately for them, their whole team is pitchers+Kung Fu Panda.
I was looking forward to seeing Obama’s pitch.
Yeah I’m still looking for it…
Good job fox!
Epic fail..
ichiro = greatness…imagine this guy came over in his young 20′s?
“I am not sure, but they might be throwing a pitch”
Erica-Oh, I left before it finsihed. Still loved what happened.
The biggest joke-
If you set your DVR for the ASG, it defaults to 8-11. Like this game has any shot of ending by 11. LOL
COME ONE DJ!!!
Last year he really looked anemic.
That should have been “come on”
That camera behind home plate looks like Darth Vader LOL
Lincecum with that hair does look a little like Karen Carpenter
Why did Jeter hack at the first 2 pitches?
Let Ichiro run.
Run Ichiro before a DP.
plunk
LINCECUM YOU IDIOT!!!
OH MY GOD
OH MY!
What the hell Lincecum.
LINCECUM UNDER THE O’NEILL BANNER!!! NOW!!!
what a jerk, maddon take this guy out right now
He got plunked
Damn you Timmy
AHH!
1st person to hit Jeter on the hand this year is Tim EFFING Lincecum.
I don’t like that at all.
At all.
Owwwww that sounded painful.
Unfreaking believable………..Please be ok!
jeter got hit =o
We want Gene Monahan NOW!
This is why I hate the all star game. Where did that catch him? Looked like the wrist. Didn’t sound good at all! Cash better be on the phone to that moron in the dugout telling him to take him out.
not the way we all wanted to see jetes reach base. ughhh
McCarver’s an idiot. No Yankee fan is going to sigh in relief until we see if Jeter can hit in the next 6 weeks.
This is why I despise All-Star games and the World Baseball Classic.
Does anyone else hear Joe Girardi screaming right now???
Erica – always OPPC July 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
LINCECUM UNDER THE O’NEILL BANNER!!! NOW!!!
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Agreed! I hope Doc is watching needs to protect a fellow Yankee teammate!
how many times in the all star game has a player been plunked for retribution? future team mate halladay needs to know what to do!
Jeter always seems to get hit in the wrist. He better be okay. I love Tim Lincecum but I will not be happy if he hurts Jeter.
My other brother:
“they should double steal
ichiro and jeter”
Time to make a little Timmy L. voodoo doll
My god, I hope Jeter didn’t break his hand. I HATE Tim Lincecum.
Tex will take him deep now for revenge!!!
Not that I think he’s hurt but we all know that “Jeter appears to be alright” doesn’t mean jack squat.
Now Tex can GIDP
tex is slumpinn
TEX 4 MVP!!!
Yankees Score!
Puljos EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Jeter scores as Pujols boots it!
F YOU LINCEBUM!
Jeter scores the first run! That must be awkward for Pujols.
good base running Jetes!
pujols
Good. Now Jeter can ice that hand. Stupid Tim Lincecum
I’ll take that!!!!
Hey, Teixeira’s a better fielder than Pujols!
(J/k – being a Yankee fan here)
YES!!!! And our boy scores the first run. Guess Pujols didn’t get to use any PEDS today.
Oh. My. Goodness.
E3…never would I have bet on that.
Boy this is a turn of events on this blog. Everyone loved Timmy earlier now he’s enemy number 1.
the NL guys seem a bit up tight. I guess the pressure of proving the NL is a real conference is getting to them
I want Jeter’s hand x-rayed right now!
Erica- Yes, and Cashman too!
Jason Bay…. another clutch hit
Lincebum is laboring.
Good for him.
always be weary of those NL west pitchers – they pitch against that crappy division alot…
Not for nothing kids but maybe Lincecum is the darlin of the NL, but so far I ain’t impressed.
But then, we all know that the AL rules!!!
Trevor
July 14th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Boy this is a turn of events on this blog. Everyone loved Timmy earlier now he’s enemy number 1.
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Hitting Derek Jeter on the hand will do that every time
HA. So much for the planned coronation of Pujols tonight. BTW:
Looking sloppy so far.
Wow, this is like keystone cops!
Oh please…. Lincecum didn’t do it on purpose like Daniel Cabrera did.
I love how the crack head trainers that Joe Maddon brought with him checked Jeter out. Nice job.
What’s Timmy doing coming in like that? My god, Jeter’s year was ruined last year by Daniel Cabrera – and now look at this dope, coming in in a meaningless game and possibly breaking Jeter’s hand.
you know, I actually though the NL had a shot at this game. This has been not so good an inning for them so far. That’s okay. I’m rooting for the AL!
The Yankees don’t have a mascot. Is there any other team that does NOT have a mascot?
Would have been interesting if they kept the rally going because Halladay would have come up.
In the words of my brother, the NL team caught “the Mets disease”
>you know, I actually though the NL had a shot at this game.
The NL order is no walk in the park.
Geeze I may have understated the AL score when I predicted they would win 5-4 (or 5-3)
I know, I know, it’s early.
COME ON DOC HALLADAY!!!!
Oh please yourself – who cares if it wasn’t on purpose? If Jeter is hurt, that makes a difference? This is a meaningless game – Lincecum did not have to come up and in like that
It looked like it glanced off the side of his hand, not the top where he could have really had something broken.
Besides, he was barely in any pain, he wasn’t grimacing or anything as he went around and didn’t seem to be favoring a hand or anything like that. I’m sure it’s numb or something, but it doesn’t look like he’s hurt that badly.
That midget idiot lincefail is trying to take out my captain.
Wasn’t it Adrian Gonzalex last year who had 2 or 3 errors?
Doreen
July 14th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
The Yankees don’t have a mascot. Is there any other team that does NOT have a mascot?
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They can get a kid’s Halloween costume at Wal-Mart’s and dress up Cashman or Gardner if necessary.
Clare:
Dan Uggla
Let me say this. While anything can happen in any game, between Halladay and Beckett this could be a nightmare for the NL.
halladay = greatness…i hope the jays keep him. too many good players always moving around. would be nice for the jays to have one of their own guys stay for the duration.
Matt,
Did you see the way he dropped the bat and ran all the way over to the dugout? For a guy as stoic as Jeter, he definitely looked like he was in pain.
Betsy July 14th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Oh please yourself – who cares if it wasn’t on purpose? If Jeter is hurt, that makes a difference? This is a meaningless game – Lincecum did not have to come up and in like that
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agreed no reason to come up and in, in this game.
“Oh please yourself – who cares if it wasn’t on purpose? If Jeter is hurt, that makes a difference? This is a meaningless game – Lincecum did not have to come up and in like that”
Yeah— I’m sure he intended on hitting someone.
Would you say the same thing if AJ (your boyfriend) got selected and accidentally hit someone? This is baseball— it happens.
Matt, thanks – it’s still very disconcerting.
Clare
Was it last year that Uggla had a rough game?
Oh please yourself – who cares if it wasn’t on purpose? If Jeter is hurt, that makes a difference? This is a meaningless game – Lincecum did not have to come up and in like that
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Wow. Talk about overreacting. Ever heard of an accident?
Thanks Rebecca. Obviously I was too lazy to look it up.
“halladay = greatness…i hope the jays keep him. too many good players always moving around. would be nice for the jays to have one of their own guys stay for the duration.”
I absolutely agree.
Clare
July 14th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Wasn’t it Adrian Gonzalex last year who had 2 or 3 errors?
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That was Florida’s 2nd baseman, Dan Uggla, I believe with 3.
Halladay on the Yanks would be a treat to watch.
These guys are all competitors.
You can’t expect them to put the ball on a tee. If they come inside, they come inside. Just like a normal game.
Chris Russo is estatic
Halladay VS. Pujols
GB7 -
I’m actually glad the Yankees don’t have a mascot, so I’ll forego the costuming of Brian Cashman!
Pel -
Which is why I said I thought the NL had a shot at this game.
(Their lineup)
Won’t they all be very disappointed if Pujols doesn’t do something big in this game? I kinda feel bad for Albert. Kinda.
Don’t think Jeter will be trying to recruit Lincecum.
I’ll chalk it up to nerves.
Hopefully, it won’t cause Jeter any missed time.
Acquisition looking good so far.
Betsy – Would you be singing the same tune if that were Hughes or Burnett who did the hitting?
Give me a break – it’s an All-Star game……and I just said it wasn’t on purpose. Your stupid comment about AJ isn’t worth commenting on. Hey, if Jeter is hurt, I guess you won’t be upset about it….,anything to defend YOUR boyfriend, Lincecum.
AL showing you how it’s done.
Nice play by Young. And he was a shortstop last season, right?
Welcome to the American league. That’s what we do NL!
Nice “D” for the AL
I think Ruth, Gherig, Aaron, Williams, Mays would be my top 5 list. Mantle’s right at the top of them all if he stayed healthy.
Mantle > Mays
This is big league baseball…. you cannot take away going up and in on someone.
If you do, might as well just cancel this whole event. It is a sham as it is. Telling the pitchers how to pitch is just bush league.
Jen, exactly………Clare, I hope you’re wrong. Jeter should come out of the game……
“Chris Russo is estatic”
Yep somewhere in Connecticut he had a smile on his face.
Doreen
July 14th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
GB7 -
I’m actually glad the Yankees don’t have a mascot, so I’ll forego the costuming of Brian Cashman!
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Yes, so am I. The only “mascot” I want to see at Yankee Stadium is Challenger II (in late October).
NL, meet with AL!
So nice so far.
1. I agree with all who think that Lincecum did nothing to try to hit Jeter
2. I understand why any fan would worry if one of their star players just got hit, despite the fact that the pitcher didn’t do it on purpose.
if halladay goes to the NL, that puts lincecum + halladay + johan in AAAA, with only CC + beckett left in the majors.
Doreen,
Unlike Alex, Michael Young did not volunteer to move.
But I think he’s been very good at 3B. And that was a great play.
Michael Young loves his all-star games. He’s always in the middle of something good for the AL.
If you don’t pitch inside then these teams will never record an out. Some of the suggestions here are ridiculous.
Halladay knows how to set up a hitter. He says, “here it is – try to hit it”.
You guys mentioned Uggla? If it weren’t for him, don’t we actually lose that game last season?
CA Dave,
I can’t speak for Betsy, but no, I wouldn’t be as upset in your scenario. What’s upsetting about this is it makes one worry about Jeter’s prolonged slump after he was hit by Cabrera, when he was obviously hurt, and it was rumored he was playing with a broken hand.
From 80-85 something called “Dandy” was the Yanees mascot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandy_(mascot)
Let’s go Halladay! Get a hit
m -
Yes, I remember. He was kind of forced to move. There was some controversy at the start of the season, and then Young said he would do it. Wasn’t he an All-Star MVP one of these years?
CA Dave, that ? is not even worth an answer. It’s obnoxious and you’re missing my point – but then, I don’t think you really read my posts.
Rosenthal – Phillies are Yankees are teams to watch (on Halladay trade)
Staten Island Yankees have “Scooter”, the Holy Cow as their mascot.
Clare, I would not be happy with AJ if he came up and in like that in an All-Star game …………hey, if Jeter is hurt, people won’t be upset about it, that’s fine
If the Yankees get HALLADAY it’s a wrap for MLB…. CC, Halladay, AJ…. WOW!!!!!
what about the squirrell?
The guy probably had nerves… this was his first All-Star game.
Can’t kill the guy… just hope Jeter is ok
Toronto would even consider trading him within the division too.. The best deal wins!
Start the bidding!
My youngest son said, “I want to see all the mascots.”
I told him, “The Yankees don’t have a mascot, but the Mr. Mets is a big ball.”
I’m kind of proud that we don’t have mascot. And neither do the Lakers.
one would think ESPN could find an alternate way to pronounce Albert Pujols’ surname:
Pronounced POO-holes
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=4574
I don’t think you can beat the Jersey Devil as a mascot!
As I said, I obviously do not think Lincecum did that on purpose…..
Snoopy is the Yankees mascot.
matsui’s $10+ mil come off the books after the season…so does damon’s.
that could go to halladay IF we had a young OF ready to go next year.
but that would give the yanks FIVE $20+ mil players. wow.
“The guy probably had nerves… this was his first All-Star game.
Can’t kill the guy… just hope Jeter is ok”
Yes to all.
Tgey could have said Pooh-wholes lol
This is going to be a good ol’ fashion Yankees/Sox bidding war, as usual.
m
July 14th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
My youngest son said, “I want to see all the mascots.”
I told him, “The Yankees don’t have a mascot, but the Mr. Mets is a big ball.”
I’m kind of proud that we don’t have mascot. And neither do the Lakers.
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actually, I believe that Jack Nicholson and Dyan Cannon are co-mascots of the Lakers.
We better hope that Toronto values Hughes/Joba more than they do Buchholz….
I have such ambivalence about Obama being everywhere. For some reason it doesn’t seem so presidential to me. With the country in the toilet it seems that he is just someone who runs around plugging holes. But maybe it’s because there are so many holes it is all he can do. Oh I don’t know.
GreenBeret,
lol. Good one!
lol at Obama
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 14th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
I don’t think you can beat the Jersey Devil as a mascot!
Jimmy Leeds
Spooky stuff down in the Pine Barrens
http://www.elktownship.com/myth.html
Uncle: Even my town has it’s own ghost story
This reminds me of the way NESN covers games. After all, why would we care to hear or watch what is going on with the game.
GRR!
I thought Swisher was that mascot?
-dennis
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 14th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Oh I don’t know.
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That says it all, right there.
mccarver is wrong
the met player was a hawaiin? of?
Creepy looking thing:
http://www.history.com/content.....nsterpedia
Rebecca
is it in weird NJ
I’m near Totowa
They have Annie who haunts the road near the graveyard
Ah Doc……..
Ah Doc……..
Yuck.
Anyone still want Halladay? j/k
Doc Halladay can’t even get the NL hitters out
This is the guy we’re trading Joba and Jackson for?
Pass.
terrible defensive game
Ron Darling is Hawaiin right?
Uh oh Doc.
dennis-Costanza
July 14th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
I thought Swisher was that mascot?
-dennis
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If the Yanks had McDonald’s as a major sponsor, Swisher could have have a duel job as the same spokesperson for both corporations.
Halladay’s stock is going down now.. hehehehe
Halladay has been awful since he has come off the DL
wow, Doc -
Benny Agbyani
Erica – always OPPC
What is this? Halladay pitching or Jobber?
Do you all still want Doc Halladay?? What’s goin’ on here?????
Oh, well.
Actually, he would fit on the Yankees. All those 2-out nobody on rallies by the opposing team. (j/k)
There is utterly no way this game ends before midnight, is there?
DFA HALLADAY!!!
Big Sid too
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 14th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
There is utterly no way this game ends before midnight, is there?
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Not a realistic one
Tomorrow is looking like a high caffiene day
Ron Darling was born in Hawaii. I think he’s part Chinese, part Hawaiian.
Shane Victorino was the player they were referring to as he crossed home plate. He was born & raised in Hawaii, but has no Hawaiian blood.
Boo, Obama!
Let this be a lesson before you give up the farm…
Any pitcher can have a bad game at any time, even the best. Halladay does not guarantee anything.
Halladay is not a big game pitcher!
Erica, now wasn’t it worth not playing let’s pretend we really know what’s going to happen with Halladay?
Y 27
yes Ron Darling is Hawaiian (but raised in Boston, I think).
If that were AJ, she’d blame the batter for leaning into the plate or not getting out of the way LOL
So far not too impressed with Doc.
Besides good control,, what outstanding pitches does he have?
Didn’t see anything over 92-93 mph, and he got hit by the weakest part of the NL order.
Do we really want him?
They had to censor it because Doc said, “I’ll only waive my no trade clause to go to the New York Yankees.”
Why is the closer in the game in the 2nd inning?
Ladies and Gentlement-
We are now witnessing the official start to the Halladay mania backlash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This dude’s beard is gross
Sid Fernandez of the Mets and beyond was Hawaiian, as was Lenny Sakata, Benny Agbianni.
Here is a list of all 35 for Mel.
http://www.baseball-reference......born.shtml
Fox having a stellar braodcast. Don’t show the first pitch reach the plate and turned Roy Halladay into Marcel Marceau.
I guess Jeter’s ok……..(crossing fingers), but I’m still nervous
m
July 14th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
My youngest son said, “I want to see all the mascots.”
I told him, “The Yankees don’t have a mascot, but the Mr. Mets is a big ball.”
I’m kind of proud that we don’t have mascot. And neither do the Lakers.
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The Lakers have one named Jack.
Doc isin’t an overpowering pitcher. He is effective because of his ability to get groundballs and quick outs and throw strikes.
He isin’t going to strikeout 12 guys a night. He might, but he isin’t trying to. He gets you to swing early in the count and is very officiant.
McCarver said there had been 3 pitchers but Victorino was the first position player.
Maine Yankee,
Sad. GB7 is nearly 75, and he beat you to the punch. ^^^
Halladay hasn’t pitched well at all since that groin injury.
But hey, let’s give up 4 or 5 top prospects and then sign him to a $100 million extension.
That’s the Yankee way!
Trader, seriously if you’re paying attention (the generic you), you realize that Halladay hasn’t been the same since he came off the DL. Now is it that he came off too soon? Are there other problems? And until someone knows with certainty what is going on with Halladay, would it really make sense to pick him up? I would think that teams would be paying attention to that. Sometimes fans get way ahead of themselves. Teams hopefully pay better attention.
(I haven’t read the posts about Halladay because I’m not particularly interested so I don’t know who stands where, and I have no dog in the hunt myself. I would be saying the same thing whether or not people believed the Yankees were players in this one.)
m
July 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Maine Yankee,
Sad. GB7 is nearly 75, and he beat you to the punch. ^^^
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It’s a good thing for you that I’m a gentleman…..or, at least a close facsimile of one.
I am actually wondering if Halladay is still hurt and Toronto activated him anyway just to trade him
“They had to censor it because Doc said, “I’ll only waive my no trade clause to go to the New York Yankees.”
That’s not at all what he said. I read his lips. He said ” I don’t know why I was so nervous out there? Guess it was because I was pitching on the big stage to all these great hitters.”
JP Riccardi cut the feed, because he knew no one would be interested in trading for him now.
Doc lost 3-2 in Tampa (7 IP), the run in the first inning should’ve been unearned. Baraja pickoff attempt ended up in the outfield.
I’ll take Doc anyday (well not if he’s really, really old).
And Joba isn’t injured and has pitched terrible all year. Trade him.
Sad. GB7 is nearly 75, and he beat you to the punch.
No fool worse than an old fool!
Halladay is fine, he’s healthy just has to find a groove.
Anyways!! Lets go American League!!!!
Trisha -
Actually pretty interestingly, not much mention has been made of the groin injury and his not-so-impressive starts since then. It could mean a lot or it could mean nothing (the starts after the injury that is). I’m in no big hurry to get Halladay. But the conversation and trade permutations have been interesting.
m
July 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Maine Yankee,
Sad. GB7 is nearly 75, and he beat you to the punch. ^^^
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My computer’s a little slow tonight. You know being up here in the backwoods of Maine.
Bay sucks!
Speaking of a great pitcher – Haren has been unbelievable.
No, I distinctly saw Doc follow up with, “I’m on my way, A.J.”
If Marte starts rehab it could interfere with all of his playing catch in Florida
Its so funny, the guy is 32 and most likely starting to decline or about to start to decline.
The experts on here want to send half the top prospect plus Hughes or Joba for this guy.
Pay for the future not what someone has done in the past. That’s what the Yankees have been doing for years and all its gotten them is a huge payroll, an old team, and early playoff exits.
The list goes on and on. Giambi, Abreu, Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown.
Brown had a great year before he was traded to the Yankees. Was basically done the minute he got here.
Let the RedSox get halladay. Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s already on the decline as we speak.
I might be in the minority here-
But if the Yankees make a trade for a pitcher I would rather it be Haren
No, I dont think so. Toronto has no history of abusing pitchers. See DL.
Mel. An edge today?
-dennis
Easy inning for Buehrle, he could have used a few more like that on Sunday. The Twinkies absolutely rocked him.
And to me, with the long hair, Tim Lincecum bears just a touch of a resemblance to Kelly Leak from The Bad News Bears.
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I am actually wondering if Halladay is still hurt and Toronto activated him anyway just to trade him
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Nah!!! I don’t think so. He hasn’t exactly been getting ripped apart. For him, he’s getting hit, but, not for normal pitchers. Only the Yanks got to him for more than 3 runs. Only 4 teams have gotten to him for 4 runs or more (5) this year.
miggs,
Why the disdain?
“It could mean a lot or it could mean nothing (the starts after the injury that is).”
Yeah, that’s the conundrum right now.
“I’m in no big hurry to get Halladay. But the conversation and trade permutations have been interesting.”
I can only imagine!
Speaking of eyes, how about Haren!
Halladay has proven himself in the AL East. He pitched bad in the AllStar game. Oh My! Lincecum must be injured now right!
This is one of Jose Molina’s catching brothers right?
“I might be in the minority here-
But if the Yankees make a trade for a pitcher I would rather it be Haren”
I don’t know if he’s available, but you are not totally alone in your thinking Erica…
MaineYankee
July 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
m
July 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Maine Yankee,
Sad. GB7 is nearly 75, and he beat you to the punch. ^^^
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My computer’s a little slow tonight. You know being up here in the backwoods of Maine.
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A wood burning stove may be ok for cooking and a little heat, but, not enough to turn it into electricity.
My wondering about Halladay’s health isn’t just about tonight.
He hasn’t been himself since he came off the DL with the groin problem at the start of July. He hasn’t been terrible, but not Halladayesque. I mean, even the Yankees won their start against him
“Halladay has proven himself in the AL East. He pitched bad in the AllStar game.”
Carl, the only question right now has to do with whether or not he might still be playing hurt. Halladay has been most unHalladay-like since he came off the DL.
Mel,
I’ve just had enough.
Halladay has never pitched in the playoffs, never pitched in a big market.
If the Yankees get him the press and fans will anoint him the savior. That’s a lot to live up to.
I can easily see him bombing out and turning into just another overpriced pitcher we traded for.
The guy just said he was nervous starting the All Star Game.
How’s he going to feel in the ALCS at Fenway?
The more I think about it, the more I feel its a recipe for disaster. In more ways that one.
Guys, I’m not for a Halladay trade…but he’s had all of two starts since coming off of the DL.
He’s going to be a bit rusty, but if the Yankees have an opportunity to get him for a reasonable price, they shouldn’t even think twice about it.
Of course, my definition and other peoples definition of “reasonable” differs…
Yadier is the baby Molina,Jose is the middle,Benji is the eldest
GreenBeret7
July 14th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
MaineYankee
July 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
m
July 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Maine Yankee,
Sad. GB7 is nearly 75, and he beat you to the punch. ^^^
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My computer’s a little slow tonight. You know being up here in the backwoods of Maine.
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A wood burning stove may be ok for cooking and a little heat, but, not enough to turn it into electricity.
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I knew you’d have some wise aleck remark.
Actually the chipmunks are a little tired tonight.
Trisha-
I’m very dubious about getting Halladay, and not because Yankee fans are concerned now that he might be injured goods, a subject that was not broached much in previous discussion. I just don’t think the Yankees want to add his payroll plus extension at a 40% luxury tax premium, and would rather see him traded to a NL team.
There was a lot of interest in obtaining Rios in the deal also, giving up Swisher, Joba, Romine, and others.
IMO if you want one of the best pitchers and are willing to trade your young talent, go for the young talented pitchers, like Verlander, Josh Johnson, Cain, Lincecum.
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
This is one of Jose Molina’s catching brothers right?
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Yes, one of 15 catching Molina Brothers.
7 innings 3 runs against Tampa. No walks 8k’s. That’s not Halladay?
miggs,
I understand your frustration. But there are plenty of “experts” that don’t post here that would say that trading for Halladay would make any team better. They actually get paid to make and analyze these kinds of decisions.
trisha,
Halladay is 10-3 with a 2.85 ERA. He hasn’t fallen off the face of the earth.
MaineYankee
July 14th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
GreenBeret7
July 14th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
MaineYankee
July 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
m
July 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
My computer’s a little slow tonight. You know being up here in the backwoods of Maine.
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A wood burning stove may be ok for cooking and a little heat, but, not enough to turn it into electricity.
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I knew you’d have some wise aleck remark.
Actually the chipmunks are a little tired tonight.
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I’m saving my good stuff to warm you up this winter.
Guiseppe Franco,
Your boy Grienke is showing nice velocity and movement. What a break-out year for him.
WOW what a slider. Filthy stuff.
This is who we chould be going after. A Guy like Grienke, Haren, King Felix.
Mid twenties, huge upside, long future, reasonable contracts. That’s who I don’t mind giving up top prospects for. A guy that’ll be here for awhile, and at the top of his game.
Of course these guys aren’t available for a reason.
“Halladay has never pitched in the playoffs, never pitched in a big market.”
So, you must have hated the AJ Burnett signing.
Mel.
I was being tongue and cheek. You are pounding the strike zone today..
-dennis
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 14th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Guys, I’m not for a Halladay trade…but he’s had all of two starts since coming off of the DL.
He’s going to be a bit rusty, but if the Yankees have an opportunity to get him for a reasonable price, they shouldn’t even think twice about it.
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Just to play devil’s advocate. Bruney has pitched exactly 6 innings since coming off the DL. In that time he has 6 ER. No one is saying he might be rusty. People are calling for his head!!!! He was once thought to be the savior of the 8th inning and when he went down it was considered a huge loss.
My point, why is it okay for Halladay “to be rusty” (if it is rust and not further injury) and not Bruney? If the Yankees are trading for this guy and giving up prospects once thought untouchable, they better be sure they are getting a healthy player
miggs
So we should trade for guys that are not available for a reason. ok.
“The Red Sox aren’t trading for Halladay. They don’t really need him because they have a surplus of starters as it is.
Theo hugs his prospects even harder than Cashman does.”
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While I agree that they don’t need pitching, the Sox will trade their top prospects if they have to.
see: Hanley for Beckett
they knew they were getting an elite type arm (same as Halladay) so they pulled the trigger.
Also – (off the record – according to a couple Sox employees and one of the top Boston sports tv analysts with knowledge of it) last year, they offered top prospects Buchholz and Masterson to get Hanley back but were rejected.
they’ll deal prospects if the value is there.
I think they recognize the value of Halladay. They just won’t overpay.
Now Greinke is someone I wouldn’t mind trading a couple of big prospects for.
“There was a lot of interest in obtaining Rios in the deal also, giving up Swisher, Joba, Romine, and others.”
Not really a lot of interest. Just SJ44 trying to shove a trade proposal down everyone’s throats.
dennis,
I saw your comment. Was thinking of how to respond. Didn’t know if there was the requisite Jeter joke I could use.
I’m grouchy because I want baseball (the real kind) to start up again.
Erica – always OPPC
He isn’t rusty! 7ip 0bb 8k 3er
Greinke had a pretty good “breakout year” last year.
“If the Yankees are trading for this guy and giving up prospects once thought untouchable, they better be sure they are getting a healthy player”
Erica I am totally with you. Again I think any team would want to be sure of the same!
Keep speaking for us. I am going to go visit my chef at Taco Bell to get some dinner. (I eat late.)
let’s go crawford…get to 2nd. play a little small ball…
come on ichiro, crawford had it easy…
Boston Dave 2.0
Theo wasn’t the gm when Hanley was traded. He wanted to keep Hanley and sign AJ Burnett when he became a FA.
Can this be for real?…
In the upper deck area of Yankee Stadium, to which Dandy was confined by upset Yankees management, Dandy was beaten up by fans who didn’t want a mascot. George Steinbrenner in 1998 claimed he “had no recollection” of Dandy as a mascot.[1]
Please steal second, Ichiro. Damn, I would have loved to see him and Crawford on base at the same time.
“Halladay has never pitched in the playoffs, never pitched in a big market.”
So, you must have hated the AJ Burnett signing.”
Actually Joe you have no clue what you’re talking about.
Burnett pitched on the WS champion Marlins. He was also a FA signing where we had to give up nothing but money. We weren’t giving up 4-5 top prospects. So actually I had no problem with the signing.
Do your homework before posting stuff, especially when you’re criticizing something I wrote.
Mel.
Likewise.
These threads are like spring training.
There is no “I am kidding button”, I was hoping you know my humor by now.
-dennis
derekT
July 14th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Can this be for real?…
In the upper deck area of Yankee Stadium, to which Dandy was confined by upset Yankees management, Dandy was beaten up by fans who didn’t want a mascot. George Steinbrenner in 1998 claimed he “had no recollection” of Dandy as a mascot.[1]
I remember they had a contest to name him he looked like Munson or Lyle
“Of course, my definition and other peoples definition of “reasonable” differs…”
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Rebecca,
isn’t that the truth?
have you, or anybody else, heard of any other team preparing a package that exceeds what is being discussed here?
my point is… do any of the possible trade partners for Halladay (who can afford him) have the prospects to get it done?
All I’ve heard is that teams like Philly will give up some decent prospects but not their top guys.
Point being – the Yanks wouldn’t have to give Joba, AJax, and more if other teams aren’t going to make comparable offers.
Maybe they have, but I haven’t heard any possible offers from other teams that compare to that one.
“Now Greinke is someone I wouldn’t mind trading a couple of big prospects for.”
Isn’t his younger brother, also a pitcher, in our minor league system?
jeet hit that hard
Greinke has made an outstanding comeback from his anxiety attack of a couple of years back.
Crawford got a couple of outstanding jumps off of Billingsley, and that is why the stat of a catcher’s success of throwing out base stealers is misleading.
If a pitcher is unable to hold on a runner, it obviously doesn’t matter who is behind the plate, whether it’s Yadier Molina or anyone else. That makes it next to impossible to throw out a runner.
You can manipulate stats to tell any kind of story.
Technically, AJ didn’t pitch in the post season.
He does, however, possess a ring even though he was on the DL for the World Series.
AL looks bad.
Burnett was on the DL when the Marlins went to the WS…. he was on the DL for most of the year. Didn’t pitch at all in the postseason
“Boston Dave 2.0
Theo wasn’t the gm when Hanley was traded. He wanted to keep Hanley and sign AJ Burnett when he became a FA.”
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well, good point but the sentiment was Boston in general. But you’re right.
Theo will trade prospects if the value is there.
They’ve discussed trading Buchholz many times. They just want to get great value for him.
The Sox were actually down on Jon Lester and had serious discussions about trading him. John Farrell is the reason Lester is still in Boston. He was able to convince the front office that Lester was going to be good and just needed to work on some things.
But they were willing, and exploring, trading him as well.
Anyone else a little surprised that Krod has already been named as the NL closer?
Hoffman is having an unbelievable season and this could be his last all-star game. But more importantly, Ryan Franklin (the Cards closer) is having a better statistical season than Krod. I would think Manuel would have let him try for a save at home.
oops my bad. He had surgery that year.
Still, it was a FA signing and only cost money.
Mauer. Wow.
Jeter scores again.
Whew!
“see: Hanley for Beckett”
Theo was hanging out in a monkey suit somewhere when that trade went down and was said to be against it happening.
Good Job
Shower up Derek
Nice hit by Mauer and great baserunning by Jeter.
Great hit by Mauer. Jeter got on his horse!
(Oh, and fantabulous defense by Jeter & Tex)
“Just to play devil’s advocate. Bruney has pitched exactly 6 innings since coming off the DL. In that time he has 6 ER. No one is saying he might be rusty. People are calling for his head!!!! He was once thought to be the savior of the 8th inning and when he went down it was considered a huge loss.”
Because the two have very different roles.
Halladay doesn’t have to be perfect–he just has to keep his team in the game, which, despite his ‘bad’ starts is still doing.
Bruney on the other hand HAS to be able to come into a game and get guys 1-2-3, as the role of the reliever is to be able to come into a tight spot, or a high leverage situation and prevent the other team from scoring at all points.
It’s weird to say this, but in this instance there’s actually more pressure on Bruney.
The other thing is that Bruney’s command has been completley off–and this is a huge deal for him, because his being effective is entirely dependent on him throwing strikes. Lack of command is considered a sign of injury–at the beginning of the season when people were concerned because Mariano was getting hit the response was that no one was really worried because the command was there–he was just still building velocity.
Bruney’s command, however, has gone.
It means something’s not right.
Jeter scores again!!
That was a hanging curve that Tex should have done damage on.
““Now Greinke is someone I wouldn’t mind trading a couple of big prospects for.”
Isn’t his younger brother, also a pitcher, in our minor league system?”
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he was. I believe they let him go.
Luke I think.
Boston Dave 2.0
Gotcha.
damn Mark hit that hard and pujols with the robbery
tex has hit the ball hard..nothing to show for it though
Good post Rebecca-
I accept that
Well, Pujols has cetainly made up for he shaky first inning. i have to take back my snide remark.
Good plays his inning. Hard hit ball by Teix. But, yeah, Jetes – 2 runs scored. 
Yankee Trader
July 14th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
“Now Greinke is someone I wouldn’t mind trading a couple of big prospects for.”
Isn’t his younger brother, also a pitcher, in our minor league system?
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He was, but, he was released early this year.
“Burnett pitched on the WS champion Marlins. He was also a FA signing where we had to give up nothing but money. We weren’t giving up 4-5 top prospects. So actually I had no problem with the signing.
Do your homework before posting stuff, especially when you’re criticizing something I wrote.”
No miggs, you do your homework, but Burnett had TJ surgery in 2003. He missed the playoffs. Don’t play with the big boys if you have no facts.
“Anyone else a little surprised that Krod has already been named as the NL closer? ”
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not really.
he’s having a great season and is coming off a season in which he set the all-time record for saves.
if the all-star game was strictly for how well you’ve done april – july of the current year, you’d be spot on.
but the all-star game is as much about reputation and past results as anything else.
Greinke’s brother had arm surgery so the Yankees cut him.
Edwin Jackson for Matt Joyce was wrong
You want to know how I know The Allstar game has no “juice”, “Street cred” “clout” on this blogboard??????
It happens all the time… but I espcially love seeing Jeter throwing over to Tex in the ASG.
Too bad ARod and Cano can’t get in there.
That would be something to see.
wow that was a quick inning
If there isn’t a save situation for Mo,think he will pitch anyway? I hope so…….
If there isn’t a save situation for Mo,think he will pitch anyway? I hope so…….
How exciting would you be with the current AL OF players playing for the Yankees?
Hamilton, Jones and Crawford?
Uncle E-
I give up. How???
I think it was Rebecca who brought it up, but the fact that Carlos Pena was picked over Ian Kinsler is downright sickening. Disgraceful even…
Pena belongs in the HR Derby. Kinsler belongs in the ASG.
Yankee Trader: I would be VERY excited with Adam Jones in my outfield.
Maddon has already said if it’s a save situation Mo will get the ball.
I swear-
Reading this blog somethimes reminds me of the classic spoof by The Onion about the Yankees free agent signings.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27656
Ian Kinsler not making it bothers me a bit
In regards to Halladay, Im not sure if the Yankees should go after him. However, I do know that the Red Sox are smart enough to go after him
They, with the help of their prospect touters on ESPN, FOX, etc., and the fact that teams will roll over on their bellies for the Sox, I dont want them to be gifted Halladay for Bucholz and Lars, they way they were gifted Schilling, and the Celtics KG, etc.
A great question has been asked by some people, but not ESPN. IF Clay was so good, why is he not up, why has Penny not been traded and Clay brought up, etc.
>That would be something to see.
It would. But only if they deserved it. But since when has ASG voting been about electing deserving players?
Erica
NO Haiku this thread
All Star Game not Destiny
Exhibition game
What’s wrong with Doc being a little nervous before an ASG? Nerves aren’t always bad – it’s how you handle them. The fact that he’s had a few iffy (if that) starts since his injury shows he’s human – you can’t expect the man to be perfect.
It’s kind of ironic how the outcome of the ASG is usually decided by the reserves, and not the starters.
It’s exciting to see Jeter and Tex get voted in to start, but I doubt either will have a chance to be named MVP.
Mo should get the ball. He is not only the best closer of all time, he is the best closer at the game this eve IMO.
-dennis
Uncle E-
All-star game boring….
Nothing to haiku about….
Miss real Yankee games
Man, I can’t wait until Pujols is finally revealed as the cheater that he is.
Erica – always OPPC
July 14th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Uncle E-
All-star game boring….
Nothing to haiku about….
Miss real Yankee games
and we have to get through 2 more days!
Trevor, but if the AL is losing – what about then? There may not be save situation for the AL – I’d like to think Mo would still pitch an inning…….
Halladay is the best pitcher in the game and if some posters are trying to say that he isn’t because of a few runs he gave up, then they are fools.
This yankee team would be great with Halladay leading the staff.
I’ll never forget hearing Ozzie Guillen’s comments about Mo after he saved the ’06 All-Star Game. Ozzie said that it was an honor for him to have Rivera as his closer and how the Yankees had to feel so comforted for being able to depend on him for all these years.
I admit that I want Mo to pitch because I’m so proud of him – I love to see him make great hitters look foolish and the other players to be in awe of him, lol
This game is moving along at a decent clip…
Methinks Adam Jones and Hudson would have had HRs if this was at NYS
DJ was interviewed on the radio broadcast and said his wrist was ‘fine’…but he always says that. So eh.
Speaking of Zack Greinke, if you haven’t read this SI article on him please take the time to do so.
It’s a fascinating look at a young, talented guy who just didn’t get it until recently. He didn’t even want to be a pitcher.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Red Sox don’t really need Halladay. See them interested in Victor Martinez and Tejada if they become availale.
The observer scared the @$*^ out of me.
The thing about Mo–
None of us, and I mean none of us, will really know how much he means to the team and the bullpen until after he’s gone.
We are so lucky to see him pitch…
who was that really scary guy in the stands? i’m legitimately afraid right now.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Red Sox don’t really need Halladay. See them interested in Victor Martinez and Tejada if they become availale.
The Red sox are interested in anyone that can help their team, and they’re always interested in getting handed something for nothing. If it’s Bucholz and Lars and throwins (more of Gammons name tosses like Tim Federowicz) for Halladay, consider it done.
I think the Sox are definitely making a move, but they’re targeting hitting.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see them add an OF and 1st or 3rd baseman. They could play Youk at either one.
Uncle E-
I am not sure I can make it
This game is moving by so fast!
I missed Jeter’s last at-bat, but I heard he hit it hard and Pujols robbed him – so he seems ok. He’ll probably have a nasty bruise…….hopefully it won’t stiffen up on him.
RS
July 14th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
This game is moving by so fast!
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They are all swinging at the first pitch cause they want to go home
Kate Smith does it better
Erica,
Well, this is definitely the most passionate version I’ve seen!
In a day or so, maybe earlier, Peter Gammons will be reporting that the Red Sox will be the favorites to trade for Victor Martinez, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Scott Rolen, Miguel Tejada and any other baseball player rumored to be on the trade market.
m
July 14th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Erica,
Well, this is definitely the most passionate version I’ve seen!
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Only because Kate Smith is very much dead and unable to appear at Yankee Stadium
Erica,
As long as Kate’s ghost wakes up the other ghosts, that’s all we ask.
Crawford baby!
ok, a part of me realy wanted that to go out
a large part of me.
Crawford.
Awesome catch by Carl Crawford (future Yankee OF
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“In a day or so, maybe earlier, Peter Gammons will be reporting that the Red Sox will be the favorites to trade for Victor Martinez, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Scott Rolen, Miguel Tejada and any other baseball player rumored to be on the trade market.”
But then the Yankees will surprise everyone and swoop in and get Dan Haren and Justin Upton from Arizona. LOL
Nice catch, lol.
Can we get Carl Crawford in left next year?
Pretty please with a cherry on top?
Bay would still be running toward the warning track.
Papsmear not looking good.
Man alive Carl Crawford, I love you and I salute you.
For once in my life I would like to see Papelsmear succeed!
What happened to Paplebons velocity?
MIGUEL A roider made the All Star game wow!
How the heck do you pick an MVP in a game like this?
So far DJ would be my man because he scored 2 runs and also made a sweet play.
Question? If the Yankees do get to the WS, do we really want the homefield advantage, or should I have rooted for Papelbon to fail this inning?
Neil Medchill is still hitting the ball hard and making the parks look small in the NY-Penn League.
Home Run #5 tonight. Trenton Lare is pitching well for them. Big left hander but, at 25 years old seems way too old for the league.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_mvsasx_1
I found myself asking the ump, “Where was that?”
Don’t worry, I slapped myself.
FWIW, pap smears save millions of lives. I’m not entirely sure you want to be using that as papelbon’s nickname if you’re trying to be derogatory
Is Joe Buck REALLY ragging on our bullpen, and not-so-subtly saying that Papelbon is better than Rivera?
Why does this man have a job? Stuff like this makes love love Artie Lange.
Buck is such a d**khead.
After seeing how cute Papelbon’s baby is, I can’t dislike him as much.
“Question? If the Yankees do get to the WS, do we really want the homefield advantage, or should I have rooted for Papelbon to fail this inning?”
Yankee, the fact that he had to come in in the 7th meanzs he already failed! It didn’t even occur to me to want him to fail. Well, let me say this. He didn’t pitch so well and was bailed out twice.
Seriously, I would have been good with him going 1-2-3 with 3 Ks. We’re playing for the AL and the Yanks. That’s how I see it.
Donnie-
Fix your handle!!! You should be meeting the entire National League under the O’Neill Banner. Or at least stupid Tim Lincecum
Bruney claims he is fine. He won’t see the 8th inning again if he can’t throw strikes. I’d rather see Hughes in the 8th. He throws strikes.
Great Bud commercial.
Joe Buck should work for NESN. He is a hack!
What is the current count of Derek Jeter commercials to this point?
RS pen hasn’t been “outstanding” since April. They’ve been seemingly hittable lately. Yankees pen has been quite good the past 2 months.
Heath Bell.
Yankees scouts only need to turn on the tv and they can see all the potential targets.
Trisha.
I am impressed you can eat spicy Mexican this late. I would be asleep for an hour and having dreams about the flying monkeys in the Wizard of Oz picking me up and dropping me in the World Cup as a goalie in a penalty kick. The goal goes up in the right corner and I flail to my left.
Good for you.
-dennis
Granderson with a 3 bagger!!!!!
hope they push him across!
Yankee Trader
July 14th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Great Bud commercial.
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Those Clydesdales have to be some of the most beautiful animals in the world.
Granderson wants to be MVP!
“Donnie-
Fix your handle!!! You should be meeting the entire National League under the O’Neill Banner. Or at least stupid Tim Lincecum”
I don’t get as fired up about the All Star game, generally. I wanted us to win last year, just so our boys got to celebrate in the Stadium one more time. But outside that, I have no hard feelings for anyone in the NL. The homefield advantage thing is a joke to me, when the managers are allowed to stack the teams with their own players.
And Lincecum is awesome. Why would I want to fight him? haha
So yeah…until we get back on the horse for real, I’m still fighting the entire state of California. I honestly just hope Chone Figgins doesn’t get in the game.
AMERICAN LEAGUE BABY ! WHAT !!!
Trisha-
Actually do the Yankees need home field advantage, with our cozy RF porch to win the WS?
Are you kidding me? Intentional walk in the All Star game. SMH
Erica
It was at 8 in the 4th inning when I stopped counting.
I am intrigued by the prospect of acquiring Dan Haren. Hear me out.
He is under contract to Arizona for the next 4 years for about $50M. While he is an exceptional pitcher, Arizona is in exceptionally dire straits financially. I don’t care if they feel that they’re in a pennant race, money trumps all. From what I read during ST, they are in big trouble moneywise.
It might take more than JP Ricciardi is realistically looking for in exchange for taking more contract dollars (Vernon Wells) off his hands, but JP is looking to unload more dollars in Wells than anyone else out there. And, Haren is a 3-4years younger than Halladay.
And, it might not take a Joba or Phil. To take that much money off his hands, Josh Byrnes might be willing to accept McAllister, Betances, Manny Banuelos. I know the proven talent weighs dramatically towards Haren, but money weighs a lot also.
Just thinking….
Boy, Heath Bell is big………I don’t know why the Pads don’t trade him as they could get a good return.
“I am impressed you can eat spicy Mexican this late. I would be asleep for an hour and having dreams about the flying monkeys in the Wizard of Oz picking me up and dropping me in the World Cup as a goalie in a penalty kick. The goal goes up in the right corner and I flail to my left.”
Den, I have a very nontraditional bodyclock! I’m pretty much up til all hours. Always have been that way. But I will say this. If I ate this stuff right before I went to bed, I would be back in College, showing up late for a final that I hadn’t studied for; or I would be trying to outrun a tidal wave.
By the way, tonight this stuff is great! Verry spicy.
Youkallis will drive in the winning run, and win ASG MVP
Joe ARI is not dealing Haren.
Bell has a 1.69 ERA and 23 saves
He is legit. Don’t know how he will do away from the NL though…
Adam “Pacman” Jones!!!
atta boy Adam !
What a great AB by Jones. I wish our guys could do that on a regular basis.
“Trisha-
Actually do the Yankees need home field advantage, with our cozy RF porch to win the WS?”
Well, since it’s cozy for more than the Yanks, I would like the advantage!!!
Yes! Could see Mo close.
“Is Joe Buck REALLY ragging on our bullpen, and not-so-subtly saying that Papelbon is better than Rivera?
Why does this man have a job? Stuff like this makes love love Artie Lange.”
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Artie Lange shouldn’t even be in the same conversation as Joe Suck.
Donnie-
Did you miss the first inning when Lincecum hit Jeter on the hand? Accident or whatever, not necessary to go up and in like that during an exhibition
Off the bench hit for Youkilis.
Pretty good. Prit-ty Prit-ty good.
LOL at the FOX best value crap. Give me a break.
yeah, now nathan then rivera.
WHAT?? kevin youkilis the MVP of the ML? He must be drinking. Heavily.
JFC shut up already !
Did Tim just say that it’s not possible to respect an MLB player more than Youkillis? I have nothing personal against him, but I can think of Mo and Jeter to name just two……..wow!
Youkallis is such a bargain… $6 million? How do the Sux get all these bargain contracts?
Shut up McCarver.
Hahahah at the Fox talk on Kevin Youkilis. Oh jeez.
“Joe ARI is not dealing Haren.”
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since they prob won’t need to resign Brandon Webb, I would think you’re right.
If they did trade him, his value is as high as it’s been in a while, and they prob would want to be blown over with a deal that did include elite prospects.
I find it tremendous to see the Rays playing in this game. It’s about time, and boy did they earn it!
Fox showing more bias for the Red Sox. I can’t stand it.
Youkilis is the most valuable player in the maor leagues, because he can play 3rd Base. They took the opportunity to bash the yankees with the Alex and Mark graphic.
Tim McCarver “understands that Youkilis cant play in 2 positions at once” Im not sure that he does.
No way do you give up a fireballing 18 year old left hander with Banuelos’ kind of control. 17 walks and 68 strikeouts in 78 innings.
Joe from LI-
As much as I like Dan Haren, you would probably have to be willing to take Eric Byrnes also, and still then I don’t think Arizona trades him unless Hughes or Joba are included in a deal.
I thought Heath Bell would have been a great addition, until tonight.
Damn I wish the Yankees had Adam Jones haha
“I find it tremendous to see the Rays playing in this game. It’s about time, and boy did they earn it!”
Agree. They are a very good team. Nice to see them represented.
The AL is in great shape. Even if the game gets tied, we have Wake who can pitch for innings and innings and not feel tired
Of course, I sincerely hope it never gets to that point.
“Did you miss the first inning when Lincecum hit Jeter on the hand? Accident or whatever, not necessary to go up and in like that during an exhibition”
Nah, I saw it. I really don’t think he was intentionally going up and in. I honestly think he got nervous and lost control of the ball. There have been a couple wild pitches this game due to nerves. I sincerely don’t believe that Timmy was trying to drill Derek or even back him off the plate, it was just loss of control. And Derek’s fine, so it’s all good. I think it got mostly the end of the bat, anyway.
“Youkallis is such a bargain… $6 million? How do the Sux get all these bargain contracts?”
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the same reason David Wright is a bargain.
he’s making $6M this year because he wasn’t eligible for free agency.
it’s not rocket science, McCarver.
Betsy July 14th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Did Tim just say that it’s not possible to respect an MLB player more than Youkillis? I have nothing personal against him, but I can think of Mo and Jeter to name just two……..wow!
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Funny not sure that he is respected around the league. He is one of the biggest cry babies.
Is McCarver wrong though?
Compare Youkallis’ contract to A-Rod and Tex’s.
The subject was “better value”, not better player.
So, if they keep the NL down, Papelbon gets the win, Mo gets the save, and the game will have ended in 9 innings.
“He is one of the biggest cry babies.”
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Even Youkilis’ teammates know he’s a crybaby. Of course they want him on their team because he’s good and plays hard but he’s definitely far from the most liked guy on the club.
The next 2 big acquisitions the Yankees should be “all-in” on are both coming after 2010.
Carl Crawford and Felix Hernandez.
“Artie Lange shouldn’t even be in the same conversation as Joe Suck.”
I just like how Artie went on Buck’s ridiculously stupid television show and tore him a new one. haha
Youk is 30. Been in the minors for a long time. Hasn’t reached FA yet.
Can’t respect Youkallis the person… whines after every call and is a baby.
But damn, would I love him on my team, more than ant other Boston player. The perfect skill set. Patient, grinder, can’t get him out in a big spot, GG defense.
“No way do you give up a fireballing 18 year old left hander with Banuelos’ kind of control. 17 walks and 68 strikeouts in 78 innings.”
GB they grow on trees.
“Is McCarver wrong though?”
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yes.
it’s wrong not to bring up WHY he’s only making $6.
“Funny not sure that he is respected around the league. He
is one of the biggest cry babies.”
Not sure how the league feels about him but I’m pretty sure Manny didn’t respect him!
Brandon – why not? I don’t think you can argue with my logic. If they truly are in dire financial straits (ok, this is an assumption based on newspaper reports, may not be accurate) then dropping contractual obligations starts to look pretty good, no.
I don’t have anything personal against Youkillis, but I want to know what is so special about him as a person that he would be the most respected? You want to know respected? Read the comments by players after Mo got his 500th save…….read what players have to say about Jeter.
Zorro
July 14th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Is McCarver wrong though?
Compare Youkallis’ contract to A-Rod and Tex’s.
The subject was “better value”, not better player.
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Then, that idiot shouldn’t have mentioned MVP, then brought up salaries. If that’s the case, Ben Zobrist is more valuable than Youkilis at $700,000 a year and 5 positions.
Joe
Haren is not being traded. If he was, the players you named would never get Haren in a million years.
“we have Wake who can pitch for innings and innings and not feel tired”
But…do they have someone who can catch a knuckleball?
“I just like how Artie went on Buck’s ridiculously stupid television show and tore him a new one. haha”
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that was awesome
for those who haven’t seen it -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....16163.html
Not sure why McCarver felt the need to even mention Arod contract.
His argument was first baseman value. Not third baseman. I know Youkilis is playing 3rd now with Lowell out but he’s a first baseman.
Just another way to tweak the Yankees.
Jeez, leave it to the comments on this blog (that I love) to understand the utter pain and hardship at being a Yankees fan.
Let’s dry our tears and not let the mean men who dare to compliment any other player or team ruin the game.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
July 14th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
“No way do you give up a fireballing 18 year old left hander with Banuelos’ kind of control. 17 walks and 68 strikeouts in 78 innings.”
GB they grow on trees.
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Maybe in other worlds, but, not in “The Evil Empire”.
Sox lock up their young players early… Cashman always waits till the last minute and pays through his nose.
Braun and Longoria both signed extensions after like a week in the majors. Those contracts look like bargains too.
Cashman feels that “We can afford to overpay them because we’re the Yankees, so we don’t want to pay them unless we absolutely have to, incase they get hurt or their performance slips and we can get them cheaper”. Of course, his strategy never works.
I’m sure Yankee fans can identify with this feeling in some form or another, but when I think of the way both Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera are respected everywhere and by everyone, it really makes me feel like I could burst with Yankee fan pride. I’m already getting choked up thinking about Mo closing the game. There wouldn’t even be a thought of anyone else closing the game out for the AL.
His cachet is beyond overwhelming. I think he could walk on water if he decided to try.
I LOVE YA MO!
this could get ugly real soon.
It amazes me that Mariano has been by far the best ambassador to baseball over the last 2 decades than anyone else, maybe Jeter, and Bud Selig, FOX, ESPN can do nothing but bash the team that they represent.
Young players make 400K in the majors before arbitration. If you offer them even a modest contract extension, they will sign it. Sets their family up for life, protects them against injury or performance slippage. To them, $30 million looks like the jackpot, when they might be worth $150 million by the time they reach FA.
Theo and these other GMs know when to strike. It’d not rocket science.
NATHAN looks like he’s struggling.
“Sox lock up their young players early… Cashman always waits till the last minute and pays through his nose. ”
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he locked up Cano.
he chose not to lock up Wang.
was that wrong?
Um they better not bring in Mo for a 4 out save. Won’t be happy
Trisha gushing on Mo……love it.
Hope he gets the chance to close it….1st and 3rd here.
MO FOR 4 OUTS!!!!!’
Mo get your ass warming up now !
Prediction here?
COME ON JOE NATHAN!
You are one of the best.
Nathan better not blow MO’s save opportunity.
jeeeeeeeezus
No way they’re bringing in Mo. I saw Fuentes warming up.
Why is Fuentes warming up?
Mo for 4 outs please.
We need HFA. We don’t want to have to win game 7 in Dodgers Stadium.
Fun to be on this on this site rooting for the same thing. That happens once a year.
-dennis
“Prediction here?”
double
Fuentes is warming up if the game is tied.
AL is the road team… the NL will get last licks. Though there may never be a save situation for MO.
BRING IN MO!
Nathan sucks.
Jennifer sorry I left before I saw your question regarding True Blood.
I love the show. You just never know what to expect and the character development is great. You obviously have to take it for what it is…its a show about vampires, werewolves, and other supernatural beings and how they interact with humans in the community.
But thoroughly entertaining if you ask me.
Crapelbon nearly gave away the lead. He sucks so hard.
Fuentes should have faced Howard. Is there another lefty on deck or something?
drama
Why do they keep showing Papelbon. Are they trying to market to their target demographic, Red Sox fans and Yankee haters.
phewwww
Whoa. Nice block by V-mart.
Mo is getting his All-Star save.
exhale
yay!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Nathan is a hero!!!!!
Yay get to see Mo close it out.
Nathan still in the top 3 of closers!
Man, Howard…What an ugly swing that was.
“Mo for 4 outs please.
We need HFA. We don’t want to have to win game 7 in Dodgers Stadium.”
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eh, Dodgers aren’t a shoe-in by any means.
If the Giants could add a bat, I’d hate to face Lincecum and Cain 4 times in a 7 game series.
If the Phillies do get Halladay…
no howard sucks.
a 4 out save in the ASG? I don’t think so
miggs- That is okay. Not into Vampire shows, so it doesn’t sound like it is for me.
What was the show that took place in Baltimore? Heard it was good. I’ll have to netflix it.
Howard strikes out so much. One of the worst eyes in baseball.
Our pitchers would love to pitch in Dodgers Stadium rather than our bandbox, so it may not be such a bad thing….
And oh my, they’ll be in heaven in San Francisco.
They keep showing Paplebon, because they’re assuming Red Sox go to the WS with home field advantage!!!
I’m sure it was already mentioned but…
Pedro signs a $1M deal with the Phillies.
I gotta tell ya I loved them cutting to Papelbon. What a wonderful study in players studying each other. How cool is it for one of the better closers in the game to be watching one of the best closers in the game trying to close out a hitter in a critical situation! Tonight in that AL dugout they are all brothers. And in turn they are all our brothers.
After tonight we go back to the intense rivalry.
JMHO.
I’d love to score another run here against Krod to pad the lead for Mo.
Hmm…doesn’t that sound familiar.
1 million for a 5+ ERA wash-up, lowest of the low class pitcher? Phillies must be desperate.
“They keep showing Paplebon, because they’re assuming Red Sox go to the WS with home field advantage!!!”
They are a major crew of D’s, no question!
You guys take some of these comments by the broadcasters wayyy to seriously.
They need to fill up air-time during games. What are they supposed to say? Don’t take their words so personally…
Gotta go to Mo.
Ok, go Mo!!
It’s about to get game over real soon.
If we see the Giants in Interleague or the World Series within the next two years there I honestly believe we should throw at them.
Accidental or not the FREAK hit our captain in an All-Star game.
I will never forget!
Boo on Werth!
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim?
Why not New York Yankees of the Bronx, New York?
There’s been a ton of hard liners caught today.
Isn’t Werth a FA after this season, or did they extend him?
MO better not blow the save… I want HFA in the world series;
“You guys take some of these comments by the broadcasters wayyy to seriously.
They need to fill up air-time during games. What are they supposed to say?”
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they could start with intelligent discussion…
it would be nice if, considering this is their job, they researched baseball a little more.
gotta go to Mo
Upton, Hawpe, Tejada?
who is left to pnch hit?
First time this Boston fan has ever cheered for Mo Rivera to close one out.
mccarver is wrong
the met player was a hawaiin? of?
…………..wasn’t that Benny Agbayani?
95 pitchers for the AL in 8ip and 118 for the nl in 9ip
way to mail it in batters
V-Mart is catching him?
ugh… why couldn’t they put a good defensive catcher like McCaan behind the plate?
Mo going for the all time ASG saves record…
that didn’t say 96
I didn’t tape this game but I am taping Mo.
Loser stupid ump.
96 yeah right
“V-Mart is catching him?
ugh… why couldn’t they put a good defensive catcher like McCaan behind the plate?”
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or flown in Cervelli as a last minute replacement?
p.s. McCann is in the NL
Unless that’s really Mo’s son closing lol
Love this part of the ASG. Everybody bow down to the king!!!!!
“96 yeah right”
juiced gun.
“First time this Boston fan has ever cheered for Mo Rivera to close one out.”
Definitely understand the sentiment. Tomorrow we will back to business as usual.
That is one ugly swing from Hawpe.
Oh my. That cutter was disgusting.
Did Agbayani play in the ASG? If so, then I think that Victorino is the first position player from Hawaii to start in the ASG.
Those guys in the NL dugout seem in awe of Mo
(but aren’t we all?)
that pitch to Hawpe was ridiculous
Mo’s son looks so nervous for him.
No chance.
Uno mas!
Takin’ care of business.
What kind of dull atmosphere is this?
1 run game, bottom 9th… where is the passion? noise?
I mean the cutter that tied him up – the one that K’d him was perfect also.
dennis-Costanza
July 14th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Fun to be on this on this site rooting for the same thing. That happens once a year.
-dennis
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That’s very true, Dennis, but, depending on the score as to whether a certain fan base pulls for a certain team’s player to succeed or fail embarrassingly.
My god that movement.
This is very cool indeed
Tejada vs Mo DING DING !
“Those guys in the NL dugout seem in awe of Mo”
They rarely see him, if ever, probably throwing to soak in his greatness….
I swear to God I am crying. That’s the effect watching Mo has on me. I feel like I am witnessing perfection.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 14th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
“First time this Boston fan has ever cheered for Mo Rivera to close one out.”
Definitely understand the sentiment. Tomorrow we will back to business as usual.
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Like that crazy weekend the Mets were playing Boston while the Yanks were playing Philly. And the mets and Yankee fans were united for the first time… ever
and Mariano Rivera sets the all time record for most saves in ASG!!
Mariano!!!
Mo. Class.
That’s how you do it.
Mo’s phat cutter!
If you want any chance, pinch hit for any lefties facing Rivera!! Way to go!!
OVER BEFORE IT STARTED.
Joe Maddon is thinking, “this is what it feels like to have a real closer”
Can Mariano get MVP? No one else has really done anything spectacular, and Mo just absolutely owned those guys.
Sandman sends the NL off to never never land.
There ya go Mo! Best in the business. Mo be the man.
Crawford will be the MVP.
Not even fair. They should have another separate super all star game for guys like Mo.
Either Mo or Jeter for MVP I would say.
Nothing more to say.
Greatest of All Time.
m
July 14th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Did Agbayani play in the ASG? If so, then I think that Victorino is the first position player from Hawaii to start in the ASG.
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No, but, he did play in the World Series and then he stayed at the Holiday Inn Express.
Papelbon just “punched” Mo’s pitching hand as they passed by
well, maybe it wasn’t a punch… but he gave the fist instead of the high five.
cheap shot
“Did Agbayani play in the ASG? If so, then I think that Victorino is the first position player from Hawaii to start in the ASG.”
Are you serious? Agbayani in an ASG? Haha
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goodness, mo is nasty
Mo is just the best of the best. He deserves MVP.
Man, Mo just carved the NL up…………that’s one reason I like the ASG – it gives players a chance to see great players like Mo…….and to have them on their side for once
Who’s the MVP? No one really stood out to me.
GB7.
Good point. Amazing the game 2:37.
Who the heck is the mvp?
-dennnis
Were those Mo’s kids? If so, did Fox mention that?
It’ll probably be Granderson. But I would award it to Mo
Papelbum does not deserve that win. His pitches were the hardest hit all night
“Either Mo or Jeter for MVP I would say.”
Mo I get, why would Jetes over Crawford and Granderson
Just responding to the poster above about Agbayani. Questioned it because local talk radio said Shane was the first position player to make the ASG.
Mo should get the MVP. New All-star saves leader come on, give this man some recognition.
Torre looked really deflated the whole inning. He knew no one had a chance against Mo.
Thank God Rivera got that out because he’s finished.
Granderson’s triple for MVP
then again, torre always has that same face haha
We are all witnesses
How odd does that graphic look!
W – Papelbon
H – Nathan
S – Rivera
JUST BEAUTIFUL!
There is MO… and then there are the All stars…
Crapelbon got the win. This is why wins mean nothing about a pitcher.
Granderson? Crawford?
dennis-Costanza
July 14th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
GB7.
Good point. Amazing the game 2:37.
Who the heck is the mvp?
-dennnis
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No decision, but, I’m betting on co-winners.
“why would Jetes over Crawford and Granderson”
Just because he scored 2 runs and made a nice play. No other reason really.
Is the man great or what?
Cando
July 14th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Young players make 400K in the majors before arbitration. If you offer them even a modest contract extension, they will sign it. Sets their family up for life, protects them against injury or performance slippage. To them, $30 million looks like the jackpot, when they might be worth $150 million by the time they reach FA.
Theo and these other GMs know when to strike. It’d not rocket science.
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exactly right.
the rs start off with league minimum,then increase it slightly year to year if the player deserves it.
once they know for sure what they have they lock up the player at the earliest chance they get for below market value through the players most productive years leaving them with the option of letting the player walk for draft picks or trading them for players or prospects after the contract is up.
yankees did it with wang & cano.
crawford is the mvp winner..
Crawford it is ! Good for you Carl !
I’m rather disappointed for Tim Wakefield that he didn’t get to pitch and get at least one out.
Wow. Okay, I can live with that though I don’t totally understand it.
What BS. Crawford over Mo or Jeter? Game saving catch? How about GAME SAVING THREE OUTS. F- that.
I’m fine with Crawford getting it – all the players are in awe of Mo (Nathan was really enjoying watching him) anyway.
“Just because he scored 2 runs and made a nice play. No other reason really.”
Not a very good reason. Congrats to Carl Crawford defense pays off.
OH BOY! A RAY!
They had the odds in their favor. With the entirety of their 40 man roster named to the team, there was a good chance one of them would win it.
Shoulda been Mo. Period.
Um… Why wasn’t MO the ASG MVP?
He recorded a 1-2-3 inning and got the record save.
Typical Red Sox bias…
great job mo
Nice trophy grats Carl!
The MVP is not a big deal – Mo doesn’t need it and he distinguished himself as he always does.
An MVP award in the shape of a bat going to a defensive play just seems wrong.
Boston Dave-
You made me replay Papelbon’s fist high five. Thought you were kidding!!!
Thank goodness it wasn’t a four hour game.
Crawford big guy for a speedster!
What a great representation by the AL East. Papelbon with the win, Rivera with the save, Jones with the game-winning RBI, and Crawford with the MVP.
What a statement by Mo Rivera.
Holy moly
Again, Selig/Fox showing their Anti-Yankee bias.
Why wasn’t MO the MVP? Such BS….
I think I should get the lohud award for coming closest to guessing the final score! (I guessed 5-3 or 5-4)
The gun was juiced but not as much as you’d think. Check out Gameday, Mo was sitting at 92-94. I guess he was a little amped up for the game
GB7.
I know folks here do not like Wake. He is one of the hardest working guys on the team to make non baseball players lives better.
Good point GB.
-dennis
“What BS. Crawford over Mo or Jeter? Game saving catch? How about GAME SAVING THREE OUTS. F- that.”
Crawford made the biggest play of the game, he saved the game for Nathan to Mo. And Nathan got 3 big outs too. Mo was amazing but com’on really take the homer glasses off w/ Jetes and give Crawford his props.
No Beckett or Wakefield bwahahahah! Pujols a non factor.
I am off to bed. I am a happy girl since this game ended at least an hour sooner than I expected it to.
Good night Yankee folk!!
Now you see why teams have a problem with Joba and thinks he “doesn’t fit” into the Yankee way?
Look at Jeter and Mariano… then look at Joba. The kid has a lot to learn about being a true Yankee. You should be trying to emulate Rivera, not become the opposite of him.
Hope he gets traded for Halladay, another classy gentleman.
Anyone have an update on who didn’t get into the game?
Congrats to Crawford
“The MVP is not a big deal – Mo doesn’t need it and he distinguished himself as he always does.”
I agree with that also. And who is more “team” and less “I” than Mo?
Btw- I am very proud of us. We managed to post over 1200 comments tonight on the All-Star game. LOL
“Look at Jeter and Mariano… then look at Joba. The kid has a lot to learn about being a true Yankee. You should be trying to emulate Rivera, not become the opposite of him.
Hope he gets traded for Halladay, another classy gentleman.”
Oh shut up.
“What a great representation by the AL East. Papelbon with the win, Rivera with the save, Jones with the game-winning RBI, and Crawford with the MVP.”
Best division in baseball, bar none.
OH BOY! A RAY!
They had the odds in their favor. With the entirety of their 40 man roster named to the team, there was a good chance one of them would win it.
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not like Torre never took half the Yankees roster. gimme a break.
MO is on !
dennis-Costanza
July 14th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
GB7.
I know folks here do not like Wake. He is one of the hardest working guys on the team to make non baseball players lives better.
Good point GB.
-dennis
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Dennis, I have nothing but respect for Wakefield’s ability and the way he handles himself on and off the field. A lot like Jeter and Rivera. His only flaw is his lousy taste uin uniforms.
MVP should have been MO or Crawford. Co MVP’s as GB suggested.
-dennis
LOL Obama knew about the cutter
Mo should feel gypped. Too bad he has too much class to feel that way.
“The quarter! He was talking about the quarter!”
I love Mo and his accent. haha
On another note nice to see more young black american players in this game.
Fielder, Granderson, Crawford, Hudson, Howard.
NEW
POST
Den, I have said this before. I think Tim Wakefield is pure class. I’ve always felt that way about him. No matter how hard I’ve fought it, the feeling has always won out. Great pitcher, great person.
Postgame on MLB Network
Hawpe looked lost against MO,his face said it all.
Mo is perfect in saves in the All Star games.Yeah!
Remember last year,Papelbon thought he should close in Yankee
stadium over Mo?
Wakefield is a horrible pitcher, though.
Wow, the NL hasn’t won since 1995………..
“MVP should have been MO or Crawford. Co MVP’s as GB suggested.”
How is Joe Nathan left out of this ? Or Curtis Granderson ?
See Mo and Nathan cancelled each other out.
Granderson got the go ahead (MVP candidate)
But Crawford made the big play of the game.
“not like Torre never took half the Yankees roster. gimme a break.”
Didn’t agree with it then, either. This isn’t about feeling any Yankees got gypped. Jeter and Mo were the only Yankees who REALLY deserved to be there this year. Tex had a great couple months to edge Youkilis. But there were a bunch of other guys who DIDN’T get in, and should have, because Maddon stacked the team with his players. Manuel was guilty as well, putting Werth in. I can’t, and never have been able to, stand that about the ASG.
So no. No breaks will be given to you.
Dennis, I have nothing but respect for Wakefield’s ability and the way he handles himself on and off the field. A lot like Jeter and Rivera. His only flaw is his lousy taste in uniforms.
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His only flaw is having an undervalued mutual 4M yearly renewable option!!!!
One hit allowed after Halladay’s two “nervous” innings!
dennis-Costanza
July 14th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
MVP should have been MO or Crawford. Co MVP’s as GB suggested.
-dennis
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I might have considered 3 co-MVPs with Crawford, Granderson, and Rivera. Rivera, though would be a touchy choice, except for those three power hitters, because the AL had 5 other pitchers with a perfect inning.
Papelbon gets the win, Rivera the save, Jones with the game winning hit, Crawford with the MVP and SICK CATCH.
AL EAST PWNS
who cares how many black players are in the all-star game? so silly… baseball has nothing to do with race.
Spicy Trisha.
You said that a week or two that you respect him so I know you are sincere. He is grinder, unselfish, and is a team guy. An All Star? Who knows, but I enjoyed the selection as sometimes I am a 4th grader about this stuff.
-dennis
Nathan gave up the only other hit to NL by anyone not named Halladay.
Crawford was 1 for 3, with a game saving catch.
If the AL won, you had to know the odds were in favor of a Ray winning it with their representation! LOL.
“An All Star? Who knows”
Tied for most wins in the AL? That’s worth an AS berth to me.
Trader.
He is a great deal every year. Just on innings pitched alone…I know he looks awful sometimes but he is a steal IMO.
-dennis
Spicy,
I know. But his other numbers are middle of the road which this board has pointed out several times.
-dennis