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don’t forget the little people
CB, that is news to me. Phil showed up at camp early last year and was in phenomenal shape; early in ST last year, he looked great. So, I’m having a hard time reconciling this fact with what you’re saying now (not saying you are wrong, it’s just puzzling)….I’m not blaming Joba for his tendonitis, by the way – what pitcher doesn’t get tendonitis? AS to Phil, he tore a hamstring and sprained an ankle – does that happen due to being out of shape? Certainly not the ankle – and lots of players tear hamstrings. Just to clarify again, I never once and will not ever get on Joba because he got injured.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Fantastic
kim always make references to you on the show pete.
i think she dig you
Don’t blame Joba for being mediocre… blame the Yankees, notably, Dave Eliand for toying with him and his mechanics.
And his shoulder injury last year was their fault too. They didn’t stretch him out properly.
dont believe all the rumors
Betsy:
Whoa.
Betsy,
It’s better they found out before money was exchanged so now they’ll just move on to somebody else. I’m telling you that LA market is so dicey due to these issues.
El nino just turned a hard double play on yankee classics and i didnt cringe when he came up to bat. i miss pena :/
Niño will be back in September, if not before.
At most it’s just six weeks
pete is saying what sj is saying on radio….
Listening to Pete now, lol – missed the first few minutes, though.
Which is what, I Know? Thanks!
So what’s he saying?
Pete sticking to his guns:
Yanks will win the division
Berroa Jokes!
At Staten Island, SI has a 2-0 lead on Neil Medchill’s 2 run homer (7), good for 18 RBI and a .345 average. Higashioke is hitless in 0-1 with a walk and run scored.
Good job, Pete – picking the Yanks to win the division and cracking an Angel Berroa joke.
pete your laugh reminded me of gammons’ laugh
The only really new thing that Pete said (new to me anyhow) is that Hinski thought to be BAD at third and pretty bad at first that’s why you see Ransom at 3b.
GB: Matthew Richardson for GCL Yankees has a 0.64 ERA in 28 IP.
Any comments? Small sample size only?
Does anyone know if there are pitching matchups up for the Detroit series?
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 16th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
GB: Matthew Richardson for GCL Yankees has a 0.64 ERA in 28 IP.
Any comments? Small sample size only?
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Rebecca, sorry but, I haven’t seen the young Tampa kids in the GCL this year. I haven’t been to Tampa since their season opened. I only have the same information that’s out on the scarce scouting reports.
CB, What would you be willing to give up to acquire Halliday ?? GB, your take as well….
Interesting! (Sorry to re-post)
Next year the Yankees will lose approximately $52M off the 2009 Payroll if they trade Swisher and let the FA go:
Johnny Damon $13M
Hideki Matsui $13M
Xavier Nady $6.55M
Andy Pettitte $10M (Incentives or $4.5M)
Nick Swisher $5.4M
Jose Molina $2.125M
Eric Hinske $1.5M
Also, after 2011, the Yanks lose Igawa’s $4M
So by my estimation the Yankees would be sitting at about $176M on 40 Man roster. If they add Wells & Halladay it would go to $213M which includes salary upgrades scheduled. I have the 2009 Salary per COTTS at $214M now. There seems to be room for these guys (Wells & Halladay) IMO.
I wouldn’t even trade Hughes for King Felix, Grinke, Josh Johnson, Lincecum, Hanley etc.
That’s how good he is.
Also if you add Pettite’s incentives for 2009 of $4.5M then 2009 salary would be about $218M.
Why would they trade Swisher? He is the heart and soul of the team. His loud music, cool haircut etc. is contagious.
Nick Swisher may be a great clubhouse guy but he’s not the heart and soul of the team or an untouchable, that being said I would still love to see Swish around for a little while.
I seem to be late to the party all day. This is a repost from the last thread (the second time I had the last post.)
Are we making an assumption that Joba is uncoachable because there haven’t been results from the coaching?
I mean, it does take time to assimilate change. Perhaps he is working on things and the results aren’t there yet.
Apparently he was coachable before.
I will believe that he may have let his conditioning go a bit in this off-season. Between his own DUI, whatever other personal things were going on, plus he was making some personal appearances, he may have let it go a bit. It happens. Not good, but it happens. I wouldn’t give up on the guy so easily.
It’s frustrating, annoying, disappointing, name your emotion, but I wouldn’t say Joba’s at the bottom of the scrap heap yet, and I’m not comfortable making grand statements about the state of his being.
NY Cat
July 16th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Why would they trade Swisher?
If the Yanks trade for Halladay & Wells, they would have to get rid of a contract. Swisher is probably the guy who goes.
Swish 2009 = $5.4M
Swish 2010 = $6.75M
Swish 2011 = $9.0M
Antone that gets NESN Ian snell is pitching against the Paw Sox. He’s been pitching well after 4.
OMG watching the Met game, and gosh is it boring. I miss the Yankees! Haven’t seen a game in over a week!!
that is anyone
re-post:
Look, everyone knows that Phil Hughes is softer than an over-cooked Easy Mac, let’s just be thankful he’s finally taken a wise teammate’s choice words to heart.
“I wouldn’t even trade Hughes for King Felix, Grinke, Josh Johnson, Lincecum, Hanley etc.
That’s how good he is.”
Eh, I’d trade Hughes for Lincecum, though there’s some concern Lincecum won’t be able to maintain that delivery without getting hurt for any sustained number of years. If he can, however, you’re looking at the greatest pitcher of his generation.
It’s supposed to storm badly tomorrow night (thunderstorms), so either the game will be shortened……or they won’t start. I really don’t want to lose AJ’s start – I kind of home they call them game before it starts
Doreen
July 16th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Joba isn’t uncoachable! I know some people here say that, but he isn’t. He is out of shape for whatever reason as SJ has pointed out for months and his mechanics are all out of joint. He needs his legs like every power pitcher (Even Wang), and he doesn’t have it now. He is still a stud for 23.
It seems if something doesn’t go as hoped for, then there is a problem. Things happen. Also, things usually even out if all things are close to equal. So the games against Boston probably will be closer to 60-40 NY the rest of this year. I guess when we quote stats of all these losses, people forget that an injured Wang contributed to several of them and also some of the early games before ARod came back the Yankees were almost a minor league team on the field for many games.
oops, I mean hope
“It’s supposed to storm badly tomorrow night (thunderstorms), so either the game will be shortened……or they won’t start. I really don’t want to lose AJ’s start – I kind of home they call them game before it starts”
You’d better be kidding…
Wow and I thought Giambi and Jorge were slow. McCain looked like he was running in quicksand.
Pat M….
July 16th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
CB, What would you be willing to give up to acquire Halliday ?? GB, your take as well….
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PAT M, if the Jays demanded that Wells were part of the equation, I’d pull Hughes, Montero, Jackson, Romine, McAllister and Banuelos from the other sheet and if they wanted a ML outfielder and pitcher, I’d offer Chamberlain and either Swisher or Cabrera. After that, I’d let them take 5 of any other the remaining system that is eligible to be traded….one catcher, one middle infielder, one more outfielder and two more pitchers. If they take Swisher, I’d include one more pitcher or outfielder.
Wow and I thought Giambi and Jorge were slow. McCain looked like he was running in quicksand.
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Distasteful, McCain was fed quicksand every morning in vietnam
RayVT -
Oh, I agree.
I think things sometimes take on a life of their own, gaining momentum and popularity as they get posted time and time again. What starts as someone’s opinion garners some agreement and then grows into an indisputable fact. The nature of the blogosphere, I suppose. Every once in a while it’s good to throw in a reminder that those kinds of statements (Joba is uncoachable!) is generally opinion.
Pat M….
July 16th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
CB, What would you be willing to give up to acquire Halliday ?? GB, your take as well….
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PAT M, if the Jays demanded that Wells were part of the equation, I’d pull Hughes, Montero, Jackson, Romine, McAllister and Banuelos from the other sheet and if they wanted a ML outfielder and pitcher, I’d offer Chamberlain and either Swisher or Cabrera. After that, I’d let them take 5 of any other the remaining system that is eligible to be traded….one catcher, one middle infielder, one more outfielder and two more pitchers. If they take Swisher, I’d include one more pitcher or outfielder.
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This is ridiculous. Why would you reward them for taking Swisher? Also why would we have to give up 7 players including Chamberlain when we are about to free them from one of the biggest albatross contracts in history? There is no way that is happening.
If they want us to take Wells they can enjoy having Z-Mac, Melky, and Chevy Nova and a collection of younger players.
i hope to never go through another 5 day all star break.
giving this blog too much time to think is a scary thing
GB7 – gee, you’re generous. If I had to take Wells’ contract, I wouldn’t offer any players of note. Why? You’re relieving JP of a massive payroll obligation.
I still say take Rios instead.
“i hope to never go through another 5 day all star break.
giving this blog too much time to think is a scary thing
”
You have no idea.
This week I’ve jumped from being able to regurgitate other’s opinions in my own words to being able to formulate my own–without having them be utterly awful, either.
I’m kind of scared.
Joe from Long Island
July 16th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Of course people would want Rios instead, but the Blue Jays need to get rid of Wells’ paycheck if possible. IMO, there are only 2 teams that will do that, the Yankees & Giants. (Perhaps RSox but I doubt it.) I even believe it wouldn’t be a budget buster for the Yanks, as my earlier posts have pointed out provided the Yanks trade Swisher too.
Sorry, but, I meant to type Rios, not Wells.
randy l -
I’ll agree with that statement 100%!
Pat M: I was in your neck of the woods a couple nights ago, cocktails and chow at the Crow Bar on PCH and then on the Javier’s and Mastro’s Ocean Club.
I believe Wells & Halladay would cost the Yanks something like:
Coke, Z-Mac, Pena & 2 other prospects. (Maybe Gardner or Melky & I would expect Gardner would be the one preferred by the Yanks as he is more of a CF only type. Melky & Jackson can play all 3 OF spots & Wells is a CF.)
Well, looks like something is afoot. Jackson isn’t playing tonight, though Duncan is.
j/k. Just wanted to start a completely new set of rumors swimming around.
GB
You are good! LOL!
Toronto has a boatload of relief pitchers, so, I wouldn’t think Coke would be a top choice.
GB
Coke could very well be a Left-handed SP as the Yanks were thinking as well.
GB7 =
What’s that? Something’s wrong with Jackson’s foot?????
RayVT
July 16th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
GB
You are good! LOL!
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This is what happens when you suffer from Yankee withdrawl. You get sadistic and irrational.
“What would you be willing to give up to acquire Halliday ??”
Pat,
I’m with GB7. If Toronto wants to dump Wells then they get no significant high ceiling talent. Zach McCallister would head up that package back. Wells’ contract is horrific. And quite honestly I’m not even sure if I make that deal if I have to take back Wells contract. I probably wouldn’t.
If they insist on Rios going back then the I’d offer something like Jackson, McCallister, Romine, Pena or Nunez, Juan Miranda and one other pitcher – Nova or Betances- something like that. Roughly on that order.
If they say no I’m fine with that. I’d walk away. That’s much more talent than the Twins got for Santana and to absorb Rios’contract is a real issue.
I don’t see the yankees getting Halladay without Wells or Rios coming back.
I wouldn’t put Hughes, Joba or Montero on the table. Not when I’m absorbing salary back.
I also don’t see any other club offering up players of the Joba/ Montero caliber – never mind putting that kind of talent on the table while taking back salary. The phillies do not have one pitcher to offer back remotely as good as Hughes or Joba. Neither do the Cardinals or the Angels (assuming they won’t trade Weaver).
I think the Jays don’t have much leverage. If they want to keep Halladay so be it. But they are not the ones calling the shots.
You only trade a guy like Halladay if you are desperate. I think the Jays are desperate.
Nick, please don’t tell me you were on PCH.
You are too good for that.
You don’t need Comedy Hormones.
Little blog kids look up to you.
RayVT
July 16th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
GB
Coke could very well be a Left-handed SP as the Yanks were thinking as well.
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I think on a lot of teams, NYY included, Coke could be an 8th inning type pitcher.
Toronto has a boatload of everything except $$$ and maybe a SS. Wells, Halladay & Rios and maybe Rolen would help reduce the payroll. Rios & Rolen can be traded on their own merits. Wells is a huge problem for them.
In the previous thread there was extended discussion about the Yankees record this season against the Red Sox, Angels, etc.
We have this same discussion year after year in some form or another. In the closing days of the 2006 regular season (in the early days of this blog) there was ad nauseum back-slapping and high fives over Detroit’s final week collapse because it meant the Yanks would play the Tigers and not the Twins. [The Yanks had dominated the Tigers during the regular season, losing only in two non-Rivera blown save games]. One year later, the entire board, suffering a massive case of amnesia, whooped and hollered over the opportunity to beat up on Cleveland (whom the Yankees had SWEPT in the regular season).
The beauty of baseball is how it’s completely a game of statistics. I’ll put it this way – let’s say the Red Sox finish the season 14-4 against the Yankees. And then the two teams end up playing in the ALCS. If I’m a Red Sox fan, I’m very nervous – that record is going to tend towards evening out.
Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup )…Every year as the trade deadline approaches we go thru all these trade concepts…..This year with Wang down and out & Roy Halliday now in play it gets crazy…..Yanks need a starter, so here we are…..I think Cashman has to look at the prospect of acquring him of course…..I said last week that if you want to get into the drivers seast, you’re going to have to consider taking on a contract of either Wells or Rios…..This saves the amount of quality chips you send back…..Joba has taken a hit here lately, however I would like for him to work out his issues and move forward to being a quality pitcher……However, Cashman would have to send a pitcher, a catcher and some spare parts…..Bottom line is the club needs one mid-level starter, although Doc Halliday would fit in real nice….I say never count out The Yanks, as they do have money coming off the books and they are going to need at least 1 outfielder for 2010……GB, the perameters of your proposals are not that far off….It’s all about the Wells / Rios contracts in my opinion…
“Coke could very well be a Left-handed SP as the Yanks were thinking as well.”
Coke is already what, 26, 27? He was originally an SP and was languishing in the minors. I can’t see him going back to that.
And Coke’s peripherals right now suggest that he’s more lucky than good.
Still gives kick-a postgame interviews, though.
Not to worry, DT, although I did sample some Alternate Hormones when I was younger.
“It’s supposed to storm badly tomorrow night (thunderstorms), so either the game will be shortened……or they won’t start. I really don’t want to lose AJ’s start – I kind of home they call them game before it starts”
Predicting a rain out 24 hours before first pitch is one of the silliest things you could ever do.
The foreceast changes so often by the time tomorrow night rolls around there could be clear skies.
If it gets to 5 PM tomorrow and that’s still the forecast then maybe we have something to worry about.
Swish & Igawa together will make $10½M in 2010 & $13M in 2011. Igawa will be gone in 2012 if not before. Maybe Toronto takes him too as part of the Wells contract eating! LOL! Trading Swish to someone to get a prospect could help offset the swallowing of Wells’ contract.
Doreen
July 16th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
GB7 =
What’s that? Something’s wrong with Jackson’s foot?????
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WHAT? Oh, God, no. where did you hear this? Is there a special report on CNN, network news? terrible news.
What are all of the question marks and the belly laugh icon for? Did Gammons say something “intelligent” again?
By the way, Neil Medchill just hit a double to go with his 2 run homer for Staten Island.
Anyone else have IO hd tv? My picture keeps freezing!
Duncan went deep for SWB
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 16th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Coke is pitching in a pressure cooker and actually has looked both great and horrible. I believe a more serene environment like Toronto and he could thrive in almost any role they decide for him.
RayVT
July 16th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Toronto has a boatload of everything except $$$ and maybe a SS. Wells, Halladay & Rios and maybe Rolen would help reduce the payroll. Rios & Rolen can be traded on their own merits. Wells is a huge problem for them.
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If it were me doing the Yankee part, I wouldn’t allow any team take heavily from one position. NYY has a lot of good young pitching, including left handed starting and relieving. The advantage to offering Swisher is that Toronto will need a first baseman this year with Overbay leaving (FA, I believe). Not much cheap on the FA market for either position.
CB – I couldn’t agree with you more. I tell the Jays they are stuck with Wells – they agreed to that deal, after all – but am willing to take Rios; the Yanks have an OF need for next year, after all. In return, they get lesser players. Certainly not Joba or Phil. Let’s see who else provides that kind of salary relief for JP.
I think the Jays are being prepped for sale, and are trying to reduce payroll accordingly. JP is trying to do the best he can, of course, to get players, but his no. 1 priority is to reduce payroll. That’s the unspoken issue here, that he doesn’t want his fanbase to discover.
I don’t think Coke is going anywhere. He’s the sole lefty in the pen.
Orlando hernandez will be a FA after tomorrow. texas will not be recalling him. Wonder what he has left?
pat m-
i’m taking the approach that i’d like to see the yankees dig down and get some of their players to overachieve.
i think that when they underachieve, ownership going out and buying the best player available to bail them out sends the wrong message.
how do they get the players to overachieve?
it’s everyone in the organization. they need to step it up a notch.
i think until they do , adding players like halliday just keeps them in an underachievement mode.
GreenBeret7
July 16th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Well, looks like something is afoot. Jackson isn’t playing tonight, though Duncan is.
j/k. Just wanted to start a completely new set of rumors swimming around.
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Doreen
July 16th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
GB7 =
What’s that? Something’s wrong with Jackson’s foot?????
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Just playing along, GB.
GB
Swish isn’t going to be cheap. $6.5M 2010 & $9M in 2011. I think they would prefer a lower priced option & they have someone in AAA I believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt2oEJ7mfwA
Video from Swisher at Foley’s.
Sorry, Henandez will be a FA this coming Monday.
Now, for enough Halladay Season info to make you puke….compliments of MLB-Rumors-R-Us.
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Roy Halladay Rumors: Thursday
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 16 at 7:10pm CST]
7:08pm: T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com says the Rangers have had discussions with the Blue Jays about Halladay, but sources call it a “long-shot.”
5:13pm: Joe Strauss of The St. Louis Post-Dispatch says the Cardinals are now downplaying a potential Halladay trade, mentioning that they have too little pitching and won’t include centerfielder Colby Rasmus in a deal.
3:56pm: The Blue Jays told the Yankees and Red Sox they’d prefer to deal Halladay outside of the AL East according to Jon Heyman.
1:21pm: MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki heard from a Phillies source who says Halladay’s $14.25MM salary is nothing and won’t be an issue. The inclusion of Vernon Wells in any trade would be a dealbreaker, however.
12:15pm: One exec told Jon Heyman of SI.com that he would trade Joba Chamberlain for Halladay, but wouldn’t give Rick Porcello up for him.
11:07am: We heard that the Angels and Cardinals may have trouble piecing together an offer for Roy Halladay, but assembling an appealing group of players would be even harder for the Tigers. Here are details on Halladay, the Tigers and other suitors for baseball’s best available pitcher:
•MLB.com’s Jason Beck says the Tigers have the financial might to pursue Halladay, even if their young talent begins and ends with Rick Porcello and Ryan Perry.
•The Tigers don’t have a stable fifth starter, so Halladay would be a massive upgrade for them, but money will not be enough to pry him away from the Jays and the Tigers don’t have top prospects in the minors.
•I discussed Halladay and other players the Tigers could look to acquire in a Q&A at EyeOfTheTigers.com.
•Bill Madden of the New York Daily News says the Yankees need to give up the top prospects to acquire Halladay if the Blue Jays are willing to deal their ace within the division.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Coke were traded that Andy might be moved into the pen.
“Wonder what he has left?”
gb7-
those hernandezes just keep on going.
whover taught them how to pitch deserves some sort of honor.
Doreen
July 16th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
GreenBeret7
July 16th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Well, looks like something is afoot. Jackson isn’t playing tonight, though Duncan is.
j/k. Just wanted to start a completely new set of rumors swimming around.
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Doreen
July 16th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
GB7 =
What’s that? Something’s wrong with Jackson’s foot?????
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Just playing along, GB.
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Whew!!! Never try giving old guys like Randy and PAT M scares like that. Geezers have weak hearts.
I knew you were kidding along, but, those two old guys didn’t.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if Coke were traded that Andy might be moved into the pen”
we already only have 3 starting pitchers. um yeah, that makes sense
RayVT
July 16th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
GB
Swish isn’t going to be cheap. $6.5M 2010 & $9M in 2011. I think they would prefer a lower priced option & they have someone in AAA I believe.
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Yeah, but, it’s a weak market and LaRoche and Huff will cost more for longer than Swisher would. Swisher can give them good production there at two positions.
It still gives them a 45 million dollar break.
randy l.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
“Wonder what he has left?”
gb7-
those hernandezes just keep on going.
whover taught them how to pitch deserves some sort of honor.
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Their daddy was a big time pitcher for years, down in Cuba. That and any tips they picked up from Fidel. He’s gotten his reward. The USA gave him a job for 50 years.
GreenBeret7
How are the twins doing?
Randy I, The concern is that The Yankees have to make an October run….Yankee Stadium cannot be dark again….So it could be almost a panic move and even a overkill reaction….Now I not well versed in how they get relief now that they have a mortgage to pay, but they do get a break somehow……The loss of Wang is what’s going to cost them now….Kennedy’s injury only complicates the situation…..The key is that The Doc has the no trade, so it’s going to interesting……I do believe that The Bombers are a player in the Halliday sweepstakes….No Hughes, no Montero, and if possible no Joba…..
There’s no way the Yankees take on Wells’ contract but I can see Rios. If they are trading Halladay and Rios, I still think they demand one of Phil, Joba or Montero. If not then they move on and deal him to the NL for peanuts as the Twins did with Santana.
“The USA gave him a job for 50 years.”
kind of like you, except you get paid for doing nothing now
i didn’t know that about their father, interesting.
it’d be a good story to hear especially from livan’s and orlando’s viewpoints.
Whats up everyone? Sorry I havent been blogging lately (shame on me), I’ve been running basketball camps for two weeks plus i’ve been honing my golf skills.
The yankees are a win now organization that prides themselves on winning. If thats their motto, then I say get Halladay. This is a no Brainer. Unfortunately we as yankees fans might have to sacrifice some players that weve grown to adore..i.e cabrera, Cano, or Joba.
If I’m cashman, I’m not giving up Hughes, montereo, or jackson. If we get hallady I will not feel guilty. By no MEANS.
Cashman? GODSPEED!
demolition photos of yankee stadium:
http://nyyankeesrumors.com/dem.....tos-71209/
You sounded great on WFAN. It’s time you get your own show.