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Fox’s “Happy Hour” at Stadium today

Peter Abraham
July
17

imagesThe Fox Business Network will be at the Hard Rock Cafe at the Stadium today, doing their Happy Hour show from 5-6 p.m.

Hosts Cody Willard, Rebecca Diamond, and Eric Bolling will discuss how to make money and save money, while still being able to afford to take the family to a ballgame. Special guests will Yankees president Randy Levine and Patriarch Partners CEO and Bronx native Lynn Tilton, among others.

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Meanwhile, in the real media news, I’m going to be on WFAN at 11:20 a.m. with Kim Jones and Adam The Bull to talk some Yankees.

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157 Responses to “Fox’s “Happy Hour” at Stadium today”

  1. Brent

    God I hate our “friends” at the Fox Business Network

  2. ditmars1929

    Levine? Is that a joke, Pete?

  3. vtyankeefan-the original!!

    That’s funny stuff, Pete

    Hopefully AJ can get the Yankees back to their winning ways to start the second half of the season and drive to the playoffs

  4. Stultus Magnus

    This is what the Twins got for Santana!

    http://www.nytimes.com/imagepa.....ready.html

    Speedy Gomez, hittin’ .235…and bunting balls at his head…

  5. Truthiness

    When does Justin Chambermaid pitch again ?

  6. David Cone's Camera Face

    save your loudest booo’s for fox news.

  7. Richie

    That the Yankees have anything to do with Faux News is extremely disappointing.

  8. bru

    i hope i get the game tonight.

    not going to be happy if i am blacked out.

  9. Bret the Hitman

    Fox is not news. It is propaganda.

  10. Erica - always OPPC

    8 hours and 30 minutes until Yankee baseball. :grin:

    It feels like an eternity since we have seen a Yankee game

  11. Giuseppe Franco

    Nobody cares about anyone’s political ideology.

    Leave that crap out of this forum.

  12. jennifer

    ummmmm gee how can I take a family of four to a bb on a budget hmmm.

    Get tickets upstiars for $20 bucks each. Bring in food and water.. Boom a day at a bb game costs me $80 bucks.

  13. Brandon... I'M AWESOME !

    “The goal is to win a championship,” Hughes said. “My personal goal of being a successful starter down the road is just personal. I feel like we’ve got a team right now that’s capable of winning a World Series.”

    Phil Yussssse that was sexy. :)

  14. xxx

    Giuseppe Franco: not a big fan of politics in a baseball forum, and that’s a-okay w/me.

    I’ll bet you hate it when Gary Busey gets all political in your fancy Beverly Hills hair salon.

    “Damn it Gary, how many times do I have to tell you keep that political crap out of my shop!”

  15. Whatever

    We can leave ideology out of the forum as soon as Team God Bless America leaves it out of their relationships.

  16. Stultus Magnus

    Bret the Hitman
    July 17th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Fox is not news. It is propaganda.

    ===========

    Fox news sucks, but so does about every other media outlet/cable news company.

  17. Erica - always OPPC

    This show sounds dumber than the Steiner Sports Yankee Stadium Memorabilia show featured on the YES network. Which was nothing but a glorified infomercial for old Yankee Stadium stuff.

    Aka- Get your very own Monument Park bricks for the low price of $149.99

  18. Erica - always OPPC

    “The goal is to win a championship,” Hughes said. “My personal goal of being a successful starter down the road is just personal. I feel like we’ve got a team right now that’s capable of winning a World Series.”

    Now he sounds like a Yankee

  19. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus

    Nearly every mainstream media has a bias. Fox News seems so far off to us because most other news sources have a liberal bias.

    That said, I prefer to get my news from the internet which is faster and surprisingly reliable.

  20. Brandon... I'M AWESOME !

    “Now he sounds like a Yankee”

    Although he does scare me a bit b/c I do hear a panamian tone in the background when I read that.

  21. bru

    lugo misses a mandatory workout with the team.francona said it was a mixup.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    is lowrie that much better?
    did the rs give him enough of a chance?

    they are going to eat a lot of money because they have no room on the roster & have to add buchholz,lowell,lowrie.

  22. Erica - always OPPC

    Brandon… I’M AWESOME !
    July 17th, 2009 at 10:40 am
    “Now he sounds like a Yankee”

    Although he does scare me a bit b/c I do hear a panamian tone in the background when I read that.

    ***
    Personally, it reminded me more of the Jeterian Robotic, “what matters is winning a championship”

  23. Steve B

    “is lowrie that much better?
    did the rs give him enough of a chance?”

    From what I saw of Lugo, he simply cannot move at SS. Literally zero range. He made Nick Green look good and Nick Green isn’t good.

  24. xxx

    I get my news from fark.

    It’s not news, it’s fark.com.

  25. bru

    did anybody see the special on yes yesterday about Steiner Sports.

    a guy interviewing mo said we can make a deal for the bullpen rubber mo has from the old stadium & mo got nasy saying it is not going to happen.

    mo looked like he was going to snap at the guy.

    it ended awkwardly

  26. Drew

    “God I hate our “friends” at the Fox Business Network”

    Mmm Hmmm..esp. Cody Willard

  27. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus

    “From what I saw of Lugo, he simply cannot move at SS. Literally zero range. He made Nick Green look good and Nick Green isn’t good.”

    This may be the best Julio Lugo explanation I’ve seen.

  28. Drew

    Pete, when you go on the FAN mention all of our names! :)

  29. Stultus Magnus

    Erica – always OPPC
    July 17th, 2009 at 10:36 am

    This show sounds dumber than the Steiner Sports Yankee Stadium Memorabilia show featured on the YES network. Which was nothing but a glorified infomercial for old Yankee Stadium stuff.

    Aka- Get your very own Monument Park bricks for the low price of $149.99

    ==============

    Yes, save your money…so you can spend $750 with the wifey and two kids to go to one game at Yankee stadium.

    And don’t forget your Monument Park brick(s). Get one for each member of your family!

    This show sounds like trash and Levine shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the set of a show about saving money.

    Here’s a tip. Want to “save money” AND go to a ballgame?

    Pay a visit to your local Triple-A club.

  30. joe b

    Take the train (no parking charge).Scalp your expensive tickets at a higher price(don’t get caught). Buy bleacher seats and sneak in your own food and drinks. Wow, that was easy. I just love the excitement of going to Yankee Stadium. Gonna try this at the Meadowlands too. I’ll be rich in no time!!!!!PS…Don’t forget to bring your Yankee Universe card. It’s like a “get out of jail free card”

  31. Hokiehill

    “Here’s a tip. Want to “save money” AND go to a ballgame?
    Pay a visit to your local Triple-A club.”

    Or sit in the bleachers at YS…it’s that easy, really, it is…

  32. Erica - always OPPC

    I can’t wait for the show where they tell us that Monument Park bricks will make lovely Christmas gifts

  33. Brandon... I'M AWESOME !

    “Personally, it reminded me more of the Jeterian Robotic, “what matters is winning a championship””

    Nah panamanian. You could hear it here

    “Being in the bullpen and helping us win now is priority No. 1,” he said. “Everything falls in after that.”

  34. Erica - always OPPC

    If you live on Long Island (like me), taking public transportation is more expensive than parking at the stadium. Especially for a family of 4

  35. Patrick the Prospect Hugger

    Hughes sounds panamanian? what? That makes no sense… he’s a white boy from cali

  36. bru

    they sell yankee stadium grass with the dirt to plant in your yard.

    they said it makes a good fathers day gift.

    i liked the picture of mo coming out of the dugout that shows his back.
    the pic has real yankee stadium dirt in it.

  37. The Sox Inquizator

    //they are going to eat a lot of money because they have no room on the roster & have to add buchholz,lowell,lowrie//

    Bucchholz goes back to AAA after he wins on Friday night. Lowrie and Lowell put the first place Sox at full strength with a 3 game lead. Bay, Youk and Pedroia are rested. Buchholz pitching tonight allows the starting 5 almost a week and half rest.

    Good Luck trying to beat the best team in baseball with the best record in the AL!!!!!

    Most likely first place Detroit will do what first place Angels did you you guys last weekend!

  38. kat

    anyone can tell me why Burnett is ptiching tonight instead of CC?
    I would think they`d want to give CC the most starts possible.

  39. Erica - always OPPC

    I saw the Yankee Stadium grass seed at the Team Store in the Stadium as well.

    Unbelievable

  40. Bill

    Regarding go to your local AAA game: I know you can’t even begin to comapare AAA to the NYY and YS, but it really is amazing how inexpensive AAA is. Last week my wife and I went to AAA (Rochester vs Buffalo) and sat right behind home plate for $10 a seat. I told her, you can’t compare this to the Yankees or YS but these would be $2000 seats in YS. It really is a bargain if you want to watch some baseball in person.

  41. vinny-b (keep Montero)

    “Fox is not news. It is propaganda”

    I have news for you. All mainstream news is propaganda.

  42. Someone Else

    Wanna save money?

    Don’t spend what you don’t have.

  43. Al

    The Sox Inquizator You’re a loser, just like your franchise. 2 championships in 9 decades. Sad.

  44. vinny-b (keep Montero)

    mainstream media

  45. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus

    “anyone can tell me why Burnett is ptiching tonight instead of CC?
    I would think they`d want to give CC the most starts possible.”

    CC got the start right before the break; AJ hasn’t pitched in about ten days. If AJ DOESN’T pitch soon he’ll end up needing rehab starts before he can pitch in a game.

    Which is, of course, another reason to pray the rain holds off tonight.

  46. Someone Else

    Oh my god, I’m quaking in my boots about the prospect of facing Jed Lowrie!

  47. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus

    AAA games are worth every penny.

    Double headers are single admission.

  48. Stultus Magnus

    Hokiehill
    July 17th, 2009 at 10:50 am

    “Here’s a tip. Want to “save money” AND go to a ballgame?
    Pay a visit to your local Triple-A club.”

    Or sit in the bleachers at YS…it’s that easy, really, it is…

    ==============

    Ha, yes, I suppose.

    Do you think that will be Levine’s talking point on the show?

    “You can sit 550 feet from homeplate for 15 dollars a pop!”

    “Or you can really make it affordable by squeezing your family into the obstructed-view bleacher seats!”

  49. kat

    thanks Rebecca for that. Is Mitre definate as the # 5 starter?

  50. xxx

    bannination, thy name is ‘the Sox Inquizator’.

    Pete does not mess around. Do you realize the information that can be gleaned from an i.p. address?

  51. Stultus Magnus

    Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
    July 17th, 2009 at 10:59 am

    AAA games are worth every penny.

    Double headers are single admission.

    ===============

    Yes they are. I love Triple-A games.

    Every time I go home, I try to catch at least one game.

    10 bucks, 4 rows behind the dugout, catch a foul ball, eat some good local food, hear an organ player.

    Fun times.

  52. bru

    The Sox Inquizator

    we will see.

    only time will tell.

    if the rs are better it is not by much.

    they will have to make a lot of decisions going forward just like the yankees..

    varitek,bay,drew,lowell,ss,ortiz.

    the yankees have a good farm system just like the rs.
    if we play our cards right we will be ok.

  53. m

    Patrick,

    I’m the one who said that Phil sounds Panamanian because he was talking about how cool it is to help the team by pitching everyday. Phil was the talk of the town after one of the games and he sounded like he really, really enjoyed the bullpen and didn’t want to leave. And you know what guys who stick around with sound like. Mo.

    Sounds like him, pitches like him. Phil even has a “coder”!

  54. Bret the Hitman

    Ortiz is a big fat roider and he is WASHED up.

  55. Hokiehill

    “AAA games are worth every penny.

    Double headers are single admission.”

    Sigh…this makes me miss the Richmond Braves…my company had season tickets that were front row, right on the end of the visiting dugout. A friend of mine collects autographs and we used to get a ton of them from visiting clubs (particlarly Scranton as we’re both Yankee fans). We even left one game with a broken bat. And the tickets were EXTREMELY cheap…

  56. m

    ack. Guys who stick around the bullpen for 15 years.

  57. Tom in N.J.

    “If you live on Long Island (like me), taking public transportation is more expensive than parking at the stadium. Especially for a family of 4″

    Same goes for us New Jerseyans. Roundtrip ticket on NJ transit coasts 20+ bucks. Throw in subway fare and a family of four is looking at about 100 bucks just to get to the game.

    It sounds weird but I know people who drive to S.I. and take the ferry over, which is free. It’s the cheapest way to get from the shore into the city. All you have to pay is the outerbridge toll.

  58. bru

    be carefull.one injury to a becket or youk & the rs are in trouble.

    we play the games for a reason.

  59. Brandon... I'M AWESOME !

    a “cuder” :lol: / :(

    BTW Yurpainindabutt DeCaster has been turning it on w/ the bat in Scranton don’t know why Ransom is still here.

  60. bru

    if buchholz gets bombed tonight it won’t be good for the rs considering he is 25 yrs old.

    buchholz against romero.

    should be a good one.

  61. Erica - always OPPC

    Tom in N.J.
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:07 am
    “If you live on Long Island (like me), taking public transportation is more expensive than parking at the stadium. Especially for a family of 4?

    Same goes for us New Jerseyans. Roundtrip ticket on NJ transit coasts 20+ bucks. Throw in subway fare and a family of four is looking at about 100 bucks just to get to the game.

    It sounds weird but I know people who drive to S.I. and take the ferry over, which is free. It’s the cheapest way to get from the shore into the city. All you have to pay is the outerbridge toll.

    ***
    Exactly. For me on the LIRR round trip (off peak) is $12.50 (at least it was the last time I took the train into the city). I would have to take the LIRR to Penn, then either walk or transfer a few times until I found the B,D, or 4. That is another $4.50 on subway fare. I have spent $17 and I am just one person. Not to mention, this actually takes much longer than the traffic on the Major Deegan. Taking public transportation to the game is not for everyone

  62. Backbench

    Buck Martinez says the Buckholtz start in Toronto tonight is an audition and that there are serious discussions going on between the RS and Jays.

    Stay frosty, troops.

  63. betsy

    McCallister being on the DL really puts a crimp in the Yankees’ efforts to trade for a SP because he’d be a good chip

  64. Steve B

    “if buchholz gets bombed tonight it won’t be good for the rs considering he is 25 yrs old”

    Wouldn’t be good for them if he were 45 years old.

  65. Doreen

    AA games are good too. But a suggestion is, if you decide the best way to see live baseball from a financial aspect is to go to minor league games, familiarize yourself with the team at least a little bit. It’s very different going to a game where you don’t know the players than if you do. Also be prepared for the minor league “experience,” which, admittedly is present in some major league parks – the t-shirts being shot into the stands, the dogs going to retrieve the bats and balls, the musical chairs contest, the team mascots, and all of it sponsored by someone! Also be ready for the random raffle ladies (and men) who stand in the aisles collecting money and giving out tickets and the incessant up and down for snacks.

    It’s fun, though, really it is. The closer to the field you can get, the less likely you are to deal with not being able to see over the heads of the constantly moving people!

  66. murphydog

    FOX’s Rebecca Diamond? Had I gone to college with someone who looked like Rebecca Diamond, maybe I would have paid attention in Statistics Class, changed from Liberal Arts to Business, gone on to a Finance Degree and maybe worked at Lehman Brothers. Oh wait…

  67. betsy

    Phil wants to be a starter, M – he probably is surprised by how much he likes being in the pen, but he’s always said he wants to be a starter……..and that’s how the Yanks envision him.

  68. m

    betsy,

    I know, it’s a running joke between Brandon and myself.

  69. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus

    Ok, guys, I’m sorry to change the topic here, so skip it if it doesn’t interest you…

    My post last night generated some interest so this morning I figured I’d go plug other “name brand” pitchers in there to see how many innings they had in the minors…

    Lincecum, Cain, Kershaw, Billingsley, Zambrano, Hamels, Cueto, Sabathia and Lester just far, and the “Joba theory” still holds. (this in addition to Roy Halladay, Dan Haren, Justin Verlander and Johan Santana. And I’m not done looking).

    The general rule of thumb seems to be that pitchers that haven’t pitched in college ball throw as a baseline about 200 IP in the minors; those that do throw in college usually throw about 100 IP in each season in college and over a course of three seasons, and then pitch at least 100 innings in the minors.

    Verlander and Lincecum have some of the less time in the minors, but pitched extensively through college (where they apparently were healthy as well).

    Joba only pitched two years in college, only reached 100 innings in one of those years, and only threw 88 innings in the minors–and he hasn’t been sent back down.

    It is amazing how the cause of what we consider an unbelievably complicated problem is actually so darned simple:

    Joba hasn’t pitched enough.

  70. DB

    I live in Yonkers. If I’m taking the fmily I’ll drive and park in the Shopping Mall on 161st off of the Grand Concourse. If you don’t look like you are going to a game you can get away with 20 dollar parking. On a wekday, if you buy something in the supermarket, you can get away with 5 dollar parking. Although I never tried it.

    If I’m meeting friends, I’ll park at Woodlawn and take the 4. 4 bucks.

  71. bru

    pete coming up on wfan

  72. Erica - always OPPC

    Putting aside trivial items such as talent and team need- If you ask a pitcher if he wants to be a starter or a reliever, 99% of the time he will say starter.

    No one offers a reliever a 5 year contract for 87m like the Yankees gave Burnett. Or whatever the crazy contract CC Sabathia got. (how do you look these things up online anyway???)

  73. DT - OPPC member

    The over/under on the number of times Kim Jones calls PA “Petey” on the FAN is 2.

  74. Erica - always OPPC

    Rebecca!!!!!

    I finally had a chance last night to read your blog on the state of the Yankees on the ASB. Combined with your really intelligent post on the innings pitched by Joba last night, I am so impressed with you.

    It so nice to read intelligent comments written by someone who has done the research to back it up. Good job!

  75. m

    Rebecca,

    The majors isn’t a developmental league. Joba should be pitching in Scranton if he needs to develop as a starter.

    Hughes bided his time. A lot of those guys you mentioned all had significant minor league innings after their callups.

    I don’t see anything wrong with it. Except that we need warm bodies. And the Yankees would have to admit they rushed yet one more young pitcher again.

    But the best way for Joba to get on track, would be away from the glare of the big leagues.

  76. DB

    Rebecca, you hit the nail on the head. Wasn’t he a position player in high school also?

    The biggest problem people have with Joba is his apparent stubborness and talk of everything is ok. “The sun will come out tomorrow” and “I’m throwing the ball well” don’t cut it in this town.

  77. Bronx Brorn

    Rebecca I think you are right on the money re: Joba!

  78. 86w183

    I live in Florida, so my trip to the Stadium is far more expensive than any of yours!

    Hughes is great… maybe hs maturity can rub off on Joba.

    As much as I’d love to have Halladay, I also have no problem “staying the course” with the guys on hand. If Mitre, Joba and Andy can go six inings and keep it to three runs the Yanks will have a chance to win those games.

    They simply have to get decent length from each starter.

  79. DT - OPPC member

    The over/under on the number of times Kim calls PA “Petey” on WFAN is 2.

  80. Doreen

    Tom in NJ -

    Going via Staten Island will take about 2 days!!!! For us, 20 minutes to the Outerbridge. Then the option is to drive to a SIRR train station and take the local only train to St. George Ferry, which takes, I don’t know – 45 min? But it takes the same amount to drive through SI depending on the time of day and the route you take. Then the ferry and then a subway to the Bronx. That’s just too much “adventure” for me! :lol: Unless you live in NYC and are just a subway ride away, it’s ridiculous to get a game. It’s why, more than the cost of the seats, we end up going very seldom.

  81. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus

    Erica:

    Thanks, really appreciate it! I guess that’s where the history background really helps–I know how to research!

    m:

    Completley agreed. Unfortunatley, that doesn’t help the Yankees this season.

    DB: Thanks. I actually don’t know much about Joba’s HS background, but that does sound familiar.

    Bronx Born: Thanks.

    I’m still plugging in added pitchers. It’s astounding me, how simple it is.

  82. SCRANTON

    Mid Day Yankees Blitz? PETE!

  83. Steve B

    “It is amazing how the cause of what we consider an unbelievably complicated problem is actually so darned simple:

    Joba hasn’t pitched enough.”

    So the Yankees have done him (not to mention themselves) wrong?

  84. betsy

    The Tigers were in first place the last time the Yankees played them, so……

  85. Erica - always OPPC

    “I’m still plugging in added pitchers. It’s astounding me, how simple it is.”

    Rebecca-

    And yet no one thought of that until you……
    (this includes sports writers and broadcasters)

  86. DB

    Your best 5 pitchers who can get through a lineup more than once are your starters. Right now, the Yanks are breaking that rule with Hughes in the bullpen when Wang went on the shelf. They need a reliable starter in that 5 spot.

    They are kind of caught between a rock and a hard place though. Hughes isn’t stretched out to start now and no one has proved they are as reliable as him in the BP.

    It will take a month to stretch him out properly if they don’t demote him, which they can’t afford to do.

  87. bru

    verlander against sabathia tomorrow?

    i thought it was verlander against joba on sunday?

  88. murphydog

    By my admittedly unreliable calculations, the Yankees have played 88 games already (51-37). There are 74 games left.

    Assume 95 wins gets them the Wild Card if not the Division. To get to 95 wins, they have to win 44 more games (or from the loss column, losing only 30 games) over the second half).

    Whaddya think? Are there 44 more wins between now and the end of the season?

  89. pat

    “Talks over the All-Star break between the Red Sox and Jason Bay regarding a contract extension were brief and largely unproductive, WEEI.com reports.”

    Bay looking for $14 million per for 3 or 4 years.

  90. GreenBeret7

    Erica – always OPPC
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:19 am
    Putting aside trivial items such as talent and team need- If you ask a pitcher if he wants to be a starter or a reliever, 99% of the time he will say starter.

    No one offers a reliever a 5 year contract for 87m like the Yankees gave Burnett. Or whatever the crazy contract CC Sabathia got. (how do you look these things up online anyway???)

    ————————————————————

    Erica, if you’re looking for current player contracts, look up the right side of this page to under “My Favorite Sites” and click on “Cot’s Deals”. All salaries are there by team’s last name.

  91. SCRANTON

    Haha Kim is jealous of the blog.

  92. Abdababdaserser

    The biggest trouble is keeping the bullpen rested enough to be effective. When Aceves did his start and was out of the bullpen the shorter outings of Pettitte and Joba wore the bullpen down.

    The only big gripe I have with Hughes in the bullpen is his one inning appearances. Put him in for 2 or more in the short starts, same with Aceves. That might help the team cover for the short outings better.

    Mitre is a big question mark as 5th starter.

    Bucholz had been the prized young pitcher of the RS. With the RS bringing in so many other arms and keeping him down in the minors I wondered if they lost their faith in him.

    I think the RS are more looking at trying to get Rolen than Halladay, but you never know.

  93. Kevin in Central NJ

    Question for anyone who can answer this. I just bought a ticket for Old Timer’s Day on Sunday. I saw what time the ceremonies begin, but does anyone know what time the gates open? Thanks in advance.

  94. Bret the Hitman

    Whaddya think? Are there 44 more wins between now and the end of the season?

    Affirmative. We can get there. The key to advancing deep is Chin Ming Wang. Please Wang. We need ya buddy.

  95. m

    pat,

    lol. Everyone, I mean everyone, thought the extension would be no problem at all. That Bay would give a hometown discount like a good soldier.

    Even though the Sox’s main leverage, Holliday is stinking it up.

  96. Erica - always OPPC

    The week of July 6th AccuScore gave the Yankees a 71.4% chance of making the playoffs with a 41.4% chance of winning the division

  97. DT - OPPC member

    listening to WFAN –

    blog envy fills the air….
    the Godfather reigns…..
    sandy blonde is incredulous…

  98. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus

    “So the Yankees have done him (not to mention themselves) wrong?”

    It would seem that way.

    Think of it like this:

    Lack of innings pitched = lack of arm strength.
    lack of arm strength = lower velocity
    lower velocity = more hittable pitches
    more hittable pitches = more pitches thrown (b/c they’re getting fouled off)
    more pitches thrown = shorter outings.

    And it can even (partially) explain the mental aspect–he was rushed so fast that all he knew was ML success. It’s his first real time dealing with BASEBALL (note, baseball, not personal) failure and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

    It’s the wrong career to learn on the job.

    “Rebecca-

    And yet no one thought of that until you……
    (this includes sports writers and broadcasters)”

    I’m not the first to think of it–I got the idea from Stephen Keane and Joe McDonald, friends of mine and Mets bloggers with an internet radio show, after they were hounding me last night and said Joba’s big problem was a lack of stamina because “he’d hardly pitched”.

    So after the show I looked it up.

    Holy Jesus Montero

  99. Steve B

    “Whaddya think? Are there 44 more wins between now and the end of the season?”

    Sure.

  100. Evan

    Gotta love when Pete (and many other fans) think that the Yanks can strike lightning in a bottle with guys from minors like they did 2 years ago with Joba.

    Pete – that doesn’t happen very often! (see Melencaon, Robertson, Kennedy, etc etc).

    You cannot jus keep plugging guys in who are afraid to throw strikes. The Yankees problem isnt the bullpen – assuming we get into the playoffs we will have Joba and Hughes and Aceves setting up for Mo. No more of this Bruney/Robertson garbage.

    The problem is getting another starter who can give us some length – someone the opposite of Joba who NEVER gives length.

  101. Steve B

    “Bay looking for $14 million per for 3 or 4 years.”

    Red Sox supposedly pushing Adam Dunn money (read: $10M per season). Bay apparently would like to stay there. I’d guess they meet somewhere in the middle. 4 and $50M or somewhere thereabouts.

  102. GreenBeret7

    Bay’s not going to sign with Boston as long as they keep trying to pay him in Canadian funds. 89 cents on the dollar.

  103. Erica - always OPPC

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns

    Link to the AccuScore for week of July 6

  104. DB

    They won’t sign him for 14M a year? How is this team better than us? Lock the guy up.

  105. Bret the Hitman

    Anybody here see Bruno? I couldn’t stop laughing. Some of it is disturbing but the guy is an extraordinary comic in my opinion. You can see his Cambridge degree in psychology evident in the mind games he plays with his victims.

  106. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes

    Regardless of whether or not there is any substance to the rumor, I hope the Joba for Halladay trade talks sparks a fire under Joba that motivates him to stop making excuses and remember how to pitch.

    Perhaps he only has incredible control when he’s throwing 98 instead of 93? Is that possible?

  107. pat

    m

    He may still take a discount. Too early in the process to tell.

    Plus he has Papelbon in his ear telling him to set the standard for left fielders. :wink:

  108. Richie

    It’s not about bias, it’s about facts. Faux News makes them up.

  109. Mike RI

    The Mad Prince in Pinstripes

    Is there a new rumor

  110. Richie

    If the issue is that Joba hasn’t pitched enough, why did he pitch better last season as a starter when he had pitched less?

    Obviously, the issue is not about how much he has pitched. It’s about what is going on with his right arm.

  111. Erica - always OPPC

    GreenBeret7

    Erica, if you’re looking for current player contracts, look up the right side of this page to under “My Favorite Sites” and click on “Cot’s Deals”. All salaries are there by team’s last name.

    ***
    Amazing. I always wondered how you guys found this stuff so easily

  112. Tom B

    Erica, fyi you can take a subway directly from penn with no transfer and no walking.

  113. Steve B

    “They won’t sign him for 14M a year? How is this team better than us? Lock the guy up.”

    What reason would they, or anyone else, have for not pointing to Adam Dunn and Raul Ibanez and saying “that’s what your worth”?

  114. Erica - always OPPC

    Who is the Mad Prince????

    I would guess Prince Fielder, but that just doesn’t make much sense

  115. Erica - always OPPC

    Tom B
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:48 am
    Erica, fyi you can take a subway directly from penn with no transfer and no walking.

    **
    To the Stadium?? How?? Only trains in Penn are the 1,2,3,A,C,E

  116. bru

    Evan
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:34 am
    Gotta love when Pete (and many other fans) think that the Yanks can strike lightning in a bottle with guys from minors like they did 2 years ago with Joba.

    Pete – that doesn’t happen very often! (see Melencaon, Robertson, Kennedy, etc etc).

    You cannot jus keep plugging guys in who are afraid to throw strikes. The Yankees problem isnt the bullpen – assuming we get into the playoffs we will have Joba and Hughes and Aceves setting up for Mo. No more of this Bruney/Robertson garbage.

    The problem is getting another starter who can give us some length – someone the opposite of Joba who NEVER gives length.

    ———————————————————-

    so you are saying that players can’t develope in the majors & have to be good from day one???

    what would baseball history look like then.

    we are getting contributions from a lot of young players.

    gardner struggled but is helping now,the list is very long.

    mo struggled,pelfrey & on & on.

    where would we be without hughes in the pen?

  117. GreenBeret7

    Erica – always OPPC
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:48 am
    GreenBeret7

    Erica, if you’re looking for current player contracts, look up the right side of this page to under “My Favorite Sites” and click on “Cot’s Deals”. All salaries are there by team’s last name.

    ***
    Amazing. I always wondered how you guys found this stuff so easily

    ————————————————————

    I don’t use it myself, of course. I have a photographic memory, but, I look at it on occassion to double check myself.

    Uhhh!!!! What were we talking about?

  118. ray (sox fan)

    GreenBeret7
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am
    “Bay’s not going to sign with Boston as long as they keep trying to pay him in Canadian funds. 89 cents on the dollar.”

    Good morning GB!

    I haven’t heard the latest about the Bay negotiations but there has been a lot of discussion about Lugo.

    All reports are that Boston is “anxious” to trade Lugo or to get rid of him in some way especially with the anticipated return of Lowrie.

    I was thinking the Yankees should pick up Lugo’s contract. :)

    And I am also thinking I may win the lottery today!

  119. DB

    From Mark Fiensands Blog:
    Blue Jays – 11 games (44-46, 2-5)
    Red Sox – 10 games (54-34, 8-0)
    Rays – 10 games (48-41, 4-4)
    Orioles – 9 games (40-48, 3-6)
    Mariners – 7 games (46-42, 1-2)
    White Sox – 7 games (45-43, 0-0)
    A’s – 7 games (37-49, 0-2)
    Angels – 4 games (49-37, 4-2)
    Rangers – 3 games (48-39, 2-4)
    Tigers – 3 games (48-39, 1-2)
    Royals – 3 games (37-51, 1-

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z0LX2CxKbi

    My Yankees Projected Wins – Losses for Division Win:
    Jays = 8 – 3
    RS = 6 – 4
    Rays = 6 – 4
    Orioles = 6 – 3
    Mariners = 5 – 2
    White Sox = 4 – 3
    A’s = 5 – 2
    Angels = 2 – 2
    Rangers = 2 – 1
    Tigers = 2 – 1
    Royals = 2 – 1

    Total = 48 – 26
    Record = 99 – 63

    We Win the Division with this record.

  120. Bret the Hitman

    If the Yankees don’t trade for a starter then Hughes will be in the rotation. So Cashman must trade for a late inning reliever to replace Hughes in the event that Joba is truly lost and can’t outpitch Alabaladejo, Tomko and Robertson.

  121. Erica - always OPPC

    Erica – always OPPC
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:50 am
    Who is the Mad Prince????

    I would guess Prince Fielder, but that just doesn’t make much sense

    ***
    Oh nevermind, the Mad Prince is someone’s handle. I need to stop paying attention to my work and focus on the blog fulltime.

    I was sure I was going to get fired yesterday trying to do Pete’s trivia

  122. m

    hey, ray.

    There must be a lot of chatter.

    Supposively Lugo missed a team workout and did not make the charter flight to Toronto.

    Francona said the missed team workout was a mixup.

  123. G. Love

    Personally, I think Joba’s problems are in his head and in his legs.

    Most power pitchers cite their legs being out of shape when their velocity drops.

    Joba looks thinner this year, but he doesn’t look strong. He may be one of those guys who has to carry weight to be at max strength.

    As for the head problems, I think it’s all been too much too soon and he’s having a hard time blocking out the voices in his head that probably range from “I’m Joba!” to “I’m gonna fail and end up pumping gas somewhere”.

    His comments are telling. He consistently goes to “The sun will come up tomorrow and I know I’ll still have a job”.

    Those aren’t comments from someone who gets it. Those are comments from someone who is panicked someone can take it away from him.

    He’s thinking about failure and putting up some false bravado to deal with it externally…but I think there’s a part of him that needs to be demoted and make him earn his way back to the top.

    I have a feeling Joba watches too many sports movies and thrives off the “against all odds coming out of nowhere” storyline.

    I think the next phase of his career is going to be, “everyone counted me out, but I believed in myself and worked my way back up to the top”.

    Just not sure if that’s going to take place here or in Scranton.

  124. Mike RI

    Brett -

    If the Yankees don’t trade for a starter then Hughes will be in the rotation. So Cashman must trade for a late inning reliever to replace Hughes in the event that Joba is truly lost and can’t outpitch Alabaladejo, Tomko and Robertson.

    I don’t think that will happen. Hughes would have to go down to AAA to get stretched out. That in itself could take a month.

    I think the Yanks would be smart to go after Washburn.

  125. DB

    Steve B
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:49 am
    “They won’t sign him for 14M a year? How is this team better than us? Lock the guy up.”

    What reason would they, or anyone else, have for not pointing to Adam Dunn and Raul Ibanez and saying “that’s what your worth”?

    Because he is infinitely better than Dunn and 10 years younger than Ibanez. He leads the league in RBI. What more do you want?

  126. pat

    erica

    Make http://www.hopstop.com your new best friend.

    It will help you get around NY.

  127. murphydog

    As far as I know you can get to YS by taking the 4, B or D trains. Or Metro North. But not direct from Penn Station.

    http://www.tripplanner.mta.inf.....anner.aspx

  128. ray (sox fan)

    Hey m,

    I will blunt here…I just have never been a big Lugo fan.

    I don’t think the Sox will be able to trade him especially because teams know that there is an excellent chance that the Sox will soon be releasing him outright.

  129. bru

    can they tell joba to not shake the catcher off at all for a few starts & see what happens??

  130. Brandon... I'M AWESOME !

    The Hitman has been kicked in the face too many times.

  131. murphydog

    Sorry. Start here and plug in Penn Station to Yankee Stadium

    http://www.tripplanner.mta.info/start.aspx

  132. jennifer

    haha some idiot just called up and said trade Duncan and Swisher for Johnathon Sanchez. :lol:

  133. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus

    Check it out. Did some more pitchers at a request of a friend:

    b/f 1st callup Oswalt 523 , Sheets. about 200, Wakefield 554, Beckett 199, Maddux 474, Smoltz 377, Glavine c. 368 /most went back down

    A few (more) observations:

    1) Sheets has the least amount of innings on that list. Guess who’s also the one that couldn’t sign with a team because of an awful injury history? I don’t believe in coincidences.

    2) Nearly all of these guys and the others I’ve looked at, except maybe Hernandez (felix), Glavine and one or two others (out of about 20) were sent back down to the minors at some point in time.

    3) Many of the best pitchers I’ve checked have pitched at least 300 innings in the minors before their first call ups.

    4) I also think Joba’s injury history should be considered. IIRC, wouldn’t that put him at increased risk of the Verducci effect? Since he’s not healthy to start with?

  134. jennifer

    Someone called up dissing John Sterling.

  135. murphydog

    pat:

    hopstop is very cool.

  136. Steve B

    Wonder if the Mets might pick up Lugo? Him, not his contract.

  137. Erica - always OPPC

    July 17th, 2009 at 11:57 am
    erica

    Make http://www.hopstop.com your new best friend.

    It will help you get around NY.

    ***
    I know that website. And it verifies there is no way to go directly from Penn to Yankee Stadium. You need to exit Penn and walk to 6th Avenue to hop on the D train.

  138. m

    ray,

    Such salty language!

  139. xxx

    Here’s something for Red Sox Nation to mull over: Julio Lugo cost the Sox not only $9M annually, but more importantly, he quite likely cost them Rick Porcello.

    The Sox poor record in 2006 would have netted them the 20th pick in the 2007 draft. However, since Lugo was a type a free agent, that pick went to the Dodgers.

    Porcello wasn’t selected until the 27th pick. The Red Sox were said to be high on Porcello, viewing him as a top 10 pick who fell in the draft due to signability concerns. These concerns would not have affected the Sox, in all likelihood.

    And this, my friends, is how Julio Lugo is the gift that just keeps on giving.

  140. GreenBeret7

    ray (sox fan)
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:52 am
    GreenBeret7
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am
    “Bay’s not going to sign with Boston as long as they keep trying to pay him in Canadian funds. 89 cents on the dollar.”

    Good morning GB!

    I haven’t heard the latest about the Bay negotiations but there has been a lot of discussion about Lugo.

    All reports are that Boston is “anxious” to trade Lugo or to get rid of him in some way especially with the anticipated return of Lowrie.

    I was thinking the Yankees should pick up Lugo’s contract.

    And I am also thinking I may win the lottery today!

    ————————————————————

    Morning, Ray. Hope all is well in the (sox fan) family. Boston is trying to get these FAs to take one for the team and, not everyone’s buying into it. Not everyone feels the desire to take a smaller contract just to show their love for the team….like they owe something to Henry for saving them. It’s going to backfire on them, and Bay may not feel that “loyalty”. Player at Bay’s age know that this is the time for their last big contract.

    As far as Lugo, I had always wanted the Yanks to get him. I’d trade anyone in the system to get him to NY.

  141. murphydog

    “Someone called up dissing John Sterling.”

    I wish they’d leave John alone. He can’t see anymore, apparently, but I’d miss the corny sob. (God, but I don’t want another young, over-caffeinated, know-it-all behind the mic!)

  142. Erica - always OPPC

    I don’t think the Mets could pick up Lugo’s contract if they wanted to. I am pretty sure Mets ownership is broke, broke, broke

  143. Stultus Magnus

    bru
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    can they tell joba to not shake the catcher off at all for a few starts & see what happens??

    =============

    So I guess that means whoever the backstop is will be running to the mound every other pitch???

    I’m sure they’ve discussed it. Does anyone get the impression he’s cut down on it the last few starts?

  144. JMZ

    Erica — how about take the 1, A or C from Penn to Columbus Circle and switch to the D there. Direct, no walking outside.

  145. GreenBeret7

    m
    July 17th, 2009 at 11:54 am
    hey, ray.

    There must be a lot of chatter.

    Supposively Lugo missed a team workout and did not make the charter flight to Toronto.

    Francona said the missed team workout was a mixup.

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. That’s sort of like sending your kid off to school and then moving without telling him.

  146. DB

    Rebecca, you don’t have to believe in coincidence. But you should believe in cause and effect. Are you saying that Joba is hurt, lost velocity, because he hasn’t pitched enough minor league innings? That logic doesn’t give balid cause and effect. I can see the “Verducci Effect” logic, but even that is sketchy logic. He went off of recent pitchers and drew conclusions from things that made his argument work. I didn’t read his full report, but from what I’ve gleaned that’s been the case.

  147. JMZ

    Oh, you don’t want to transfer. Nevermind, shoulda read the thread.

  148. Brandon... I'M AWESOME !

    “haha some idiot just called up and said trade Duncan and Swisher for Johnathon Sanchez. ”

    For the record, No that wasn’t me. :)

  149. DB

    balid = valid…..unless your are making a salad and adding balsamlic vinegar.

  150. Erica - always OPPC

    In all honesty-

    Its still more cost effective and easier to just drive to the stadium :-)

  151. bru

    the mets are a mess.

    it looks like every player is out of position,zero power.

    sheff in lf.

    they might be 15 games out in a few weeks.

  152. gayle

    Inteeresting

    http://www.weei.com/sports/bos.....assignment

  153. gayle

    SOmeone brought this up yesterday and took a look at it today and I also know that it is so not a burning issue in the middle of the season but it looks like finally the Yankees will have some 40 man roster flexibility next year.

    I counted at least 10 people that will/could come off the 40 man at the end of the season and with the youngsters that the team has coming up that space will prove valuable.

  154. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes

    Mike RI,

    I read yesterday that the Jays are asking that whoever takes Halladay also takes Vernon Wells and his $100 million remaining his contract through 2014.

    I’ve read that Joba or Hughes would likely be in any deal.

    IF..IF (emphasized) we took on Wells’ contract, the Jays would have to take back one of our OFs and not obtain a top tier prospect. If they weren’t okay with that, then screw the deal. That is not worth it.

    I am not ready to throw in the towel on Joba by any means…he’s a youngster and he is learning. I think we’ll see the real starting pitcher we hoped for towards the middle of 2010.

  155. braden

    I hate anything fox,there motto should be.

    Faux news where we make it up!!

  156. Dr. Cox

    We SHOULD dominate this kid today. But since we have a tendency to let first time pitchers shut us down, I wouldnt be surprised if we lose.

    Oh and by WE I mean the Yankees. Yes I am one of those who refers to my team as WE. Get over it. haha.

  157. RockinDaBronx

    terrible show, only thing worth watching on that channel is the Dave Ramsey show. Alexis Glick is nice to look and listen too as well.

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