Game 91: Tigers at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 19, 2009 
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YANKEES (53-37)
Jeter SS
Gardner CF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera LF
Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (4-2, 4.25).
TIGERS (48-41)
Granderson CF
Polanco 2B
Cabrera 1B
Thames DH
Thomas RF
Inge 3B
Anderson LF
Laird C
Santiago SS
Pitching: RHP Edwin Jackson (7-4, 2.52).
TIME/TV: 2:05 p.m., YES, TBS.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees have won the first two games of the series and are two games behind Boston in the AL East to start the day.
CATCH A TIGER BY THE TAIL: The Yankees are 4-1 against the Tigers this season and have won four straight.
CENTRAL CASTING: The Yankees are 18-5 against the AL Central this season.
JOBAMANIA: Joba Chamberlain is 1-1 with a 5.05 ERA in his last seven starts. He has allowed 47 hits (including five homers) and 15 walks over 35.2 innings. Opponents are have hit .311 against him. One of his best starts this season, however, came against the Tigers on April 29 at Comerica Park. He allowed one run on three over seven innings and struck out six.
PHIL FRANCHISE: Phil Hughes has not allowed a run in his last 12 appearances, a stretch of 15.2 innings. He has allowed eight hits, walked three and struck out 19 in those games. He has an 0.89 ERA in 14 relief appearances.
MOTOWN: Mariano Rivera has allowed one run over his last 15 appearances. He has recorded saves in eight of the last 11 victories and has converted 21 straight save opportunities.
DEREK’S DOMINATION: Check out Derek Jeter’s last 12 games: 22 of 51 (.431) with nine runs scored, five RBI, eight walks and only four strikeouts. That’s a .508 OPB.
THE CANO COUNT: Robbie Cano has a 10-game hitting streak. He is 16 of 41 (.390) in the streak.
BRUNEY’S BATTLE: Brian Bruney, who has not pitched since July 10, has allowed six runs on nine hits and eight walks in his last 6.1 innings.
THE A-ROD REPORT: Alex Rodriguez has 571 home runs. He needs three more to pass Harmon Killebrew and take over sole possession of ninth place all-time.
Back with more later.
UPDATE, 10:41 a.m.: Just spoke to Mike Mussina. He looks great, is coaching his kids and has no regrets whatsoever. He’ll be starting the Old Timers Game.
Meanwhile Nick Swisher is running around with a ball getting autographs.
UPDATE, 11:44 p.m.: Here are some Old Timer photos. Zim, Moose and Andy and Cone.
UPDATE, 11:54 p.m.: Damon is out with assorted aches and pains. “Just needed a day,” Girardi said.
UPDATE, 12:15 p.m.: No team does Old Timer introductions like the Yankees. There’s not going to be much time left for a game.
UPDATE, 12:21 p.m.: Huge ovation for the Moose.
UPDATE, 12:49 p.m.: The Old Timers’ Game is a rout. The Clippers scored five runs in the top off the first as the Moose was a victim of have a bunch of old guys playing defense. Chad Curtis had a two-run triple.
Girardi caught him and is now going to catch Jeff Nelson.
The great Bob Wolff is calling the game within the Stadium along with Keith Olbermann. It’s great to see Mr. Wolff. I got to know him a few years ago because he was involved in a recognition program for high school athletes in Westchester. What a nice man and obviously a terrific announcer in his day.
UPDATE, 12:56 p.m.: Ron Guidry pitching now. The Gator looks good.
UPDATE, 1:10 p.m.: Several of the Tigers, including Justin Verlander, are watching the Old Timers’ Game from the top step of the dugout. Many of the Yankees are watching, too. A.J. Burnett is having a good time with it.
UPDATE, 2:10 p.m.: Picture-perfect baseball weather today 80 degrees and white puffy clouds. We’re underway with the team game as the Yankees go for the sweep. Hope you’re enjoying the game wherever you are, I’m glad to be back in the press box after some time off.
UPDATE, 2:12 p.m.: Atta boy. Gets ahead of Polanco 1-2 and walks him after an eight-pitch at-bat.
UPDATE, 2:20 p.m.: Joba wiggles out of trouble, but a 23-pitch first inning has him on pace to be out of the game in the fifth or sixth inning as usual. Girardi said before the game that he wanted six innings out of Joba. We shall see.
UPDATE, 2:27 p.m.: Forgot to mention this before. There is a dark hallway outside of the offices used by Joe Girardi and clubhouse manager Rob Cucuzza. The only adornment on the blue wall is a large Yankees logo. It’s right in front of the entrance that the players use.
Rob came up with the great idea to have the current players — along with the Old Timers — sign the wall with a silver marker. The rule is that only Hall of Famers can sign within the logo.
Rob and his staff had all the former players sign today. It’s a tradition thy hope will last for years. “It’ll be famous after a while,” he said.
UPDATE, 2:36 p.m.: Joba is a mystery. He throws over twice to keep Josh Anderson close and balks on the second try. How about going after the the No. 9 hitter instead? He makes things more difficult on himself.
But the Tigers are scoreless after two innings.
UPDATE, 2:52 p.m.: Hey, look at that, Joba threw a 95-mph heater to Cabrera and he swung and missed. What a concept.
UPDATE, 2:59 p.m: Joba’s line so far: 3 1 0 0 3 2 with a balk. 52 pitches / 29 strikes.
UPDATE, 3:17 p.m.: Alex ties it with a blast to center. No. 19 on the season and 572 for his career, one behind Killebrew. With the Blue Jays (and Halladay) beating the Red Sox 3-1 in the 9th inning, this would be a big one for the Yankees to get.
UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Joba with 97-mph to end the top of the fifth inning and a fist pump. Is the real Joba — or at least the old Joba — making an appearance today. So far he is.
UPDATE, 3:50 p.m.: Well, Joe Girardi wanted a solid six out of Joba. He got it. Joba has retired five straight, three by strikeout, 8-9-1 coming up in the seventh and he’s at 98 pitches. Leave him in, I say.
UPDATE, 3:54 p.m.: Nobody warming up. Joba against the Tigers this season: 13 innings, 6 hits, 2 runs, 12 Ks.
UPDATE, 3:58 p.m.: Nothing cheap about that jack to right field as Teixeira goes yard. No. 23 of the season. Yankees 2-1 with nine outs to get. Joba + Phil + Mo = victory?
UPDATE, 4:13 p.m.: Joba struck out the first two batters of the inning and Girardi got booed when he came to get him.
Phil Coke on for Granderson. Joba finished at 107 pitches.
Joba at Detroit on April 29: 7 3 1 1 3 6
Joba against Detroit today: 6.2 3 1 1 3 8
Crazy.
UPDATE, 4:21 p.m.: Phil Hughes warming up.
UPDATE, 4:33 p.m.: Hughes in for Polanco, Cabrera and Thames. Good test for him.
UPDATE, 4:41 p.m.: Phil Franchise has now thrown 16 2/3 consecutive scoreless innings of relief and fanned 21. Yankees have retired 11 of the last 12 Tigers. Mo to face Inge, Anderson and Laird unless Leyland pinch hits.
UPDATE, 4:50 p.m.: On Old Timers’ Day, here come Mo Rivera. He’s older than Old Timers Aaron Small and Homer Bush.
Yankees looking for a second straight 2-1 win. It would leave them one game out in the East.
Magglio Ordonez to hit for Anderson.
UPDATE, 4:57 p.m.: Mo takes care of business and the Yankees win again. That’s a sweep of the Tigers and one game out. They retired 14 of the last 16 Detroit hitters. They have a killer bullpen with Hughes and Coke setting up Mo.
Back later with clubhouse reaction.
Wow. I can’t get over how well Jeter is playing. So fun to watch…what will I do when he’s one of the Old Timers?
In case you missed it, here is a great read from Serby on Mickey Rivers. I rarely laugh out loud, but he was pretty funny.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07.....038;page=0
Go Joba!
^ 11:30
11:30 is the YES Coverage for Old timers Day
You start to feel pretty old when you realize you’ve watched well over half the Old Timers play during their career.
Winning 2 of 3 is over-achieving, considering they faced a cy young like lefty plus the top two best pitchers in the game.
Just checking to see if there was line-up complaints BEFORE Pete even posted it.
those oldtimers are not going to have a chance against mussina!
he could still be pitching in the majors!
we should sign mussina.
Geez Mussina, at least give us a chance to miss you
“Wow. I can’t get over how well Jeter is playing. So fun to watch…what will I do when he’s one of the Old Timers?”
I think that if jeter continues playing as well, he will again get serious MVP consideration this year.
Not bad for a SS that has a weak bat and no range. Looking at his stats, he’s almost the same player at 34 as he was at 24.
This is a step up game for Joba Chamberlain. If he continues wanting to do it his way and be all over the plate, a sweep will be tough to get.
He needs a quality 7 inning start and nobody should know it more than he does.
Moooooose!!!!!
Funny how so many experts on this blog had Jeter retiring next year. You rarely find that sentiment around here any more.
i would guess those same experts are the ones who called phil Hughes a bust last season, another sentiment you rarely see around here.
Meanwhile Nick Swisher is running around with a ball getting autographs.
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Who wouldn’t? Lucky Swish.
Cashman makes a similar point to the one I made the other day:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....961.column
“In terms of finding an option outside of the organization, it gets harder and harder every year, it seems like,” Cashman said, adding: “It’d probably be easier to find some bullpen guy and take one of the starters [Hughes or Alfredo Aceves] out of the pen and put him back in the rotation, than go outside and trade for someone.”
William – I think Jeter right now has to be the frontrunner for the MVP if he keeps this pace. He’s gotten shafted 2x before, in 2006 and in 1999 when he really should have won hadn’t it been for 4 juice-heads beating him out. There has never been more good will for Jeter throughout baseball and I think if he’s anywhere close come August it’s going to take a Mauer or Suzuki hitting .400 to beat him out.
Jackson vs Yankee batters:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=5842
more horsespit from the Yankee organization. Another slap in the face to Jack Clark.
I won’t be watching the Old Timers game again.
Swisher really is as close as it comes to having a regular guy on the team. I get the feeling he wakes up every morning as if he won some sort of lottery and gets to be a major leaguer for a day.
hoping Chambermaid will turn in a quality start
we’ll see
Jack Clark:
you were a good player. Rickey Henderson was a little better. And Rickey says he agrees
Anybody know the complete line-up including a left fielder?
Who thinks Cano is going to go on a massive tear in the next month bumping his BA up to .349?
I’m watching joba’s pitch count today. I think anything less than 6 innings today is another let down. Starts who can not average 6 innings pitched are a bust in my book. I don’t care if he can throw 1,000mphs if he can’t help save the pen from being over worked.
Ask Moose how happy he is that his ERA wasn’t subjected to the fancy new launching pad.
If it’s going to be more and more difficult to get pitching from outside the organization, then it’s clear that even more resources must be used to scout and develop talent in-house. Get the best people out there and pay them. Then you’ll have home-grown pitchers who are cost-controlled, and, hopefully, really good.
Oof! Just watched Jeter’s throw from the 9th inning yesterday. What does he think he is, 28? And Teixeira made a great stretch, too. Then, there’s Mo. Incomparable.
swingsandmisses
July 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Ask Moose how happy he is that his ERA wasn’t subjected to the fancy new launching pad.
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i am sure he will chose the launching pad over the steroid era.
Anyone on here at the game and can give the details of what’s going on with the OTers?
I’d like to see Joba get a little wild early and throw a ball or two over a batter’s head like he used to. I think we all underestimate how much being an intimidator complements his game. I also think it’s not a coincidence that he lost his swagger when he stopped doing his celebratory fist pump after big outs. I don’t know what baseball players, writers and now even fans do everything they can to diminish to color some players add to the game. It’s really a shame and makes it less fun to watch. If Al Hrbosky was playing today he’d be nicknamed: “The Even Tempered Hungarian”.
Joba Chamberlain vs. Ediwn Jackson….. ugh
I bet Mussina could be ready in a month if he wanted to.
Are the Yanks playing 8-on-8 today trying to force Granderson to sit?
Someone posted a link to a Joel Sherman article in a previous thread and said it was a good piece. I’m sorry I have to disagree, lol. Joel Sherman doesn’t think Phil Hughes can be an elite pitcher without a changeup? CB sort of said the same thing last night, but I trust CB to know what he’s talking about. I get the feeling that Joel Sherman is just regurgitating stuff that he’s heard elsewhere. I just knew that as soon as he mentioned Phil, there would be a “but”……….Then, He thinks he’s pitching well because he’s in the pen? He was pitching well BEFORE being put in the pen…….more stupidity. Actually, as soon as I scout say that he saw Joba as a closer, I rolled my eyes. The last quote in the article was how a scout still thinks the Yankees are going to be into Holliday and Bay – in other words, so much for their plan to build a core primarily around youth.
If you haven’t read the article, don’t bother, lol
Joba doesn’t need to throw at anyone, but he absolutely has to go back to throwing his fastball inside.
Randy
Was just Watching the 1971 all-star game on MLB. Torre at third. They showed him crouching real low before the pitch said it was Clete Boyer’s influence.
for the love of Jebus, no more Swisher!!!
Phil – Definitely not an OPPC member
July 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Could one more person please post how the line-up is short a player?
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the lineup is short a player.
i don’t understand why you would wan’t anybody to do this but here you are.
Betsy,
I also thought Sherman’s article wasn’t really good. This is the same writer that expressed concern that Jeter and Rivera might be done earlier in the season. He changes his POV like I change my socks.
That was sarcasm, kids.
Looks like Joe is trying his best to run the same lineup out there most days. Damon getting injured forced him to change things up.
I think now that we are in the second half we’ll see his A lineup more often.
joba need to throw strikes & have an offspeed pitch that is much slower than his others to keep hitters honest.
first strikes,stop nibbling & work quick.
Joel very often gets things wrong. Very often. His opinion is one thing…but you’d think he didn’t follow the team based on some of his articles.
I think Moose might be the free agent we are looking for. Let’s reel him in. Roger did it, why not Moose?
damon is so fragile.
Damon plays through injuries all of the time. There is nothing fragile about him. See quotes by Torre, Jeter, Francona, etc.
Anyone have a link to watch the Old Timers game? It’s not on tv here, and I don’t see it on mlb.tv either
Jesus is lighting a fire under Posada with his electric performance. I predict next season Posada will be his mentor as Girardi was to Posada. It’s time to get the kid real lessons!
“Joel very often gets things wrong. Very often. His opinion is one thing…but you’d think he didn’t follow the team based on some of his articles.”
He’s not the only writer I can say that about as I view most baseball writers as less knowledgeable about baseball than more than a few Yankee fans I converse with here and on other Yankee sites on a daily basis.
where is hinske? Swisher’s act is getting old.
I heard Pete Abe’s voice on the commercial to Moose’s Yankeeography.
Does anybody have a link to Jeter’s jump throw yesterday, I only got to listen to the game and I can’t find it anywhere.
did they not tell people that the stadium was gonna open early?
place is dead.
Phil — So was my response.
It’ll be interesting to see if they give Montero a legit look next spring or if they simply ticket Cervelli for Molina’s job and Montero plays every day in Scranton.
Another option would be to have Montero take Matsui’s spot on the roster where he learns from Jorge and Pena every day, catches once or twice a week and DHs about half the time. It could be a good learning experience if his bat is ready.
There was nothing all that new in the Sherman piece, but it was a thorough assessment of the top talent in the system.
I can’t wait to see Moose……………and Mike “hit man” Easler, lol
Yankee in Ohio….Jeter’s play is on yankees.com on the main video page
yeah, it’s pretty embarassing how empty the place is. I’ve never seen Old-Timer’s day this dead – anywhere.
.286 OBP
.273 SLG%
.559 OPS
Nick Swisher’s July #s.
all players play through the same injuries.
why would damon be off after having a lot of days off for the asb?
he misses a lot of time.
jeter is 35 years old & almost never misses time,arod had surgery & hardly misses time.
damon has an awkward slide,not even hard & he needs a day off if he is in fact off?
like i said he is fragile.jmo
the better players need to play.
The stadium is never filled for Old Timers Day.
“Anyone have a link to watch the Old Timers game? It’s not on tv here, and I don’t see it on mlb.tv either ”
MLB.tv only covers regular season games. They don’t cover exhibition games or special events that the team hosts. I think the only place to see the game is on YES.
attention Yankee hitters ……
http://www.boston.com/sports/c.....k_the.html
Yankee in Ohio – from Yankees.com… http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
NYY626–Thanks, i looked yesterday but didnt see it on there. Jeter has found the fountain of youth
Thanks, Laura – that’s the unfortunate reality that I deal with all the time… I sooo wish I lived in NY!
The Ghost
July 19th, 2009 at 11:53 am
yeah, it’s pretty embarassing how empty the place is. I’ve never seen Old-Timer’s day this dead – anywhere.
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Yeah even the bleachers and the cheaper upperdeck seats are not full.
“The stadium is never filled for Old Timers Day.”
That might be because it starts so early. People probably have stuff to do early Sunday morning (go to church, etc).
None of those fans knew who Mike Easler was – poor guy barely got any response. Sad.
Cash – you know what it was? Sherman’s article was just a mish mash of a million things that have been said before. Now, I don’t have high regard for Yankee fans, but it says something when I agree that they know more than sportswriters.
“Thanks, Laura – that’s the unfortunate reality that I deal with all the time… I sooo wish I lived in NY!”
Me too! I’m freezing my butt off here in Chicago. What kind of summer is this? We’ve been getting 60s and 70s in July. Global warming must be rearing it’s ugly head.
You have zero way of knowing how bad the injury is. Hence, based on his coaches and teammates opinions, I’ll side with them and say that no, Damon is not fragile nor easily broken.
Nice to see Ken Griffey finally come back. He’d make somebody a great hitting coach.
Don’t they usually have it on a Saturday? That could be a reason? That and the draw of the food in the concourse.
Aaron Small would be one of the top 5 applause getters on some teams
Aaron Small is a class guy off the ball field.
Yes, past OT days were on Saturdays. Not sure why the change…but it prevented me from going for the first time in 5 years.
Johnny Damon has a reputation as one of the most durable players in the game.
He’s played through a number of injuries in his career, sometimes to his own detriment.
“Not durable” is not one of the terms you’ll hear around baseball to describe Damon.
Theres noone in the legends seats..noone
and the overall crowd is extremely quiet..
and Pat Kelly, Homer Bush…Aaron Small?? THis is the New York Yankees, come on This is old timers day not marginal players from a few years ago day
It will be more filled when he Old Timers are playing in their game.
Has anyone gotten more mileage out of one hit than Bucky Dent?
You know tha the most most thrilled people on this board to see Bucky Dent are Dennis and Ray (sox fan). They love that guy.
Joe Pepitone is finally going gray
Pepitone was crazy off the field…great head of hair.
lol. Just finished Sherman’s article. It’s nothing that hasn’t been discussed here before.
And, yes, it is good. If good is opposite of what he usually does, dump on the Yankees and their execs.
Not to be mean, but Sherman looks like the type that got beat up all the time as a kid. Just because.
Roy White played his entire career for the Yankees
Funny Q&A with Mick in today’s Post.
Mick the Quick. The funny part about him is that he’s always walked hunched over so now that’s he’s old enough to be sporting a hunch – he doesn’t look any older!
Jeff Nelson is on the redemption tour after his poor behavior and antics that began towards the end of his Yanks tenure.
Charlie Hayes. Everyone remembers the final out but no one remembers The Holy Roller
Sherman said the same thing CB did. I don’t think some people realize how important the change-up is. Hughes himself always talks about trying to develop it despite for the past 3 years.
Charlie Hayes looks trimmer now than when he played.
Damon is not fragile. Wasn’t he the guy who was never on the DL until last season?
But if he’s dealing with concussions or whatever, no amount of toughness will overcome that.
He’s a quick healer it seems, so when he gets nicked up or bruised have him sit. We have viable replacements, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
Good to see Mel back…he’s such a big part of Yankees history.
Phil don’t you love how everyone yearns for the days of Nelson/Stanton but always conveniently forget that Nelson was about as consistent as Tanyon Sturtz during his tenure as a Yankee. Torre just always knew when to replace him with Stanton before any real damage occured.
And Girardi gets the loudest applause.
Girardi also looks like he could catch nine today.
Were these same fans who cheered Girardi loudly, the same ones who chanted “We want Torre” at the stadium when we were going through a mini-slump?
They do this Old Timers’ stuff way too early on a Sunday
I just rolled out of bed!
Sherman is a hack, but he is right about Phil and his change.
Munson behind the plate. 1971 all star game on MLB
Is that Doc Gooden or Sid Fernandez?
I hope Doc is clean and can stay that way.
Luis Arroyo = BMF
“They do this Old Timers’ stuff way too early on a Sunday”
QFT. 11:30 AM? on a Sunday?
OH and Clemente batting.
Never mind Home run
Re-posting this from last night, but it’s such a moving story. If you can, take a look.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
I thought Sherman’s article was good. It’s impressive in many ways that the NY Post would even print something like that focusing in on the yankees development process. Particularly at that length – for the Post that column was War and Piece.
The yankee’s development process since 2005 is a story that’s gone under reported for far too long.
Sherman hit on an important point in the opening comparing the younger internally developed back up players the yankees have had to turn to this year vs. the Mets.
Nothing he said was earth shattering. Nor did anything seem egregiously wrong. His general categories and break down were fine.
But that’s the kind of story the major NY press needs to do more of.
Sherman takes a lot of hits on blogs and often rightfully so. But he should get credit as well and I thought that piece on the whole was a good one.
Girardi just told Gooden he needed to pitch today.
Imagine winning 4 WS games for a franchise and being all but forgotten.
Could there have ever been two more unlikely room mates in baseball than Bobby Brown and Yogi Berra? Brown with his medical books and Yogi and his comic books.
ZIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
Ken Griffey came back last year – I love him (not his son so much). He made one of the best catches I have ever seen – he climbed the left field wall, snared a HR ball and then climbed back down. Fantastic!
Agreed…but Sherman is so often wrong, I almost didn’t read today’s article because I stopped reading and and turn the page when I see his byline.
ZIMMMMMERRRRR!!!! I love him
I miss Bobby Murcer on days like this. Ditto Hank Bauer.
I wonder what brought Zim back?
Phil–Phil Rizzuto
Don Larson aka “The Night Rider”.
CB -
Joel Sherman has done a couple a few of good pieces within the last 6 months, but not enough of them.
http://bombersbeat.mlblogs.com/
OTD lineups. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the home team looks stacked.
Hoch also poses an interesting question in the entry before the lineup.
Rebecca – agreed. I guess I didn’t realize he was missing just yet until the end when he usually came out right before Yogi.
Phil Hughes looks like a young Nettles.
no leyeritz??
Phil,
I’m not denying Sherman’s general writing. That’s the tabloid press and he’s a big part of it.
But his article today should be judged on its own merits and it was a good one.
I miss Bobby walking around with his mike on, joking with the OTers during the broadcast. Everyone loved him.
“Sherman takes a lot of hits on blogs and often rightfully so. But he should get credit as well and I thought that piece on the whole was a good one.”
Agree. Unfortunately, some people won’t be satisfied unless he (or any writer) says the Yankees will win the WS and our young pitchers will become sure-fire aces.
I wish the Yankees would bring Nettles back as a coach. I think he would have a Bowa-like effect on Cano and would make Arod a gold glove winner at 3rd.
I am deliriously excited to see Moose today
Well, I agree that the opening point that Sherman made about the Yankees being able to reach into their system for youngsters who could be productive up here was a good point…..
Moose looks like he should still be playing…
No grace period for Moose
Louisiana Lightning always looks good and like he could pitch instead of Mitre this week.
Moooose! Aww, it’s so good to see him – how cool that he’s starting!
Yeah Rebecca, I think it would have been hilarious if he put on some kind of beer belly prosthetic under his uniform and waddled out to the field!
lol… AJ talking to Gossage un the dugout.
His 2003 “save” of Clemens against Boston was Moose’s finest hour as a Yankee. Though his 2001 game against the A’s down 2-0 was darn good, too.
Moose get the loudest ovation so far. He will make the other old timers looks silly he pitches today.
Sherman talking about Hughes and his changeup isin’t anything that 100s of people haven’t already said. He is right, whether or not some people want to admit it.
Little known fact about Reggie – he hit the actual game deciding homer in the Bucky Dent game.
Doreen,
Compared to say Madden or (cringe) Lupica, or Matthews, Sherman at least on some level seems to acknowledge that the team has changed directions.
The good beat writers are much more in tune to this.
The columnists have been refractory to a large extent. Sherman has done a few good pieces on this general area.
I think fans would like to see more of the kind of pieces he did today than the faux-controversy pieces they so often write.
As much as I loved Goose on the field, I don’t particularly care for him off of it. Too much griping.
Ditto Reggie.
if i’m girardi i talk moose into coming back.
Verlander clapping when Whitey was introduced lol nice
I shudder to think of when Whitey and Yogi can’t come to the park anymore. Reggie and Goose just don’t strike the same chord…especially because they spent just portions of their careers with the Yanks.
I honestly think Sherman doesn’t have a clue – I didn’t read anything in the article that changed my mind. The fact that he implies Phil pitching well only because he’s in the pen is just dumb…………..
So who goes out to the mound if Eiland struggles? Wheres Mo when you need him.
You know what’s weird – after Yogi and Whitey you have to go all the way to Jeter and Rivera if you want to honor Yankees with true Hall of Fame Yankee careers. Pretty weird huh?
I hope (post managerial career) Torre comes back for one of these OT days.
Perhaps he’s the best of a poor lot – Madden and Lupica are the dreks of sports journalism.
How would I catch this game online? Please help. Thanks.
When Torre comes back he’ll get a bigger ovation than Bernie Williams.
“I shudder to think of when Whitey and Yogi can’t come to the park anymore. Reggie and Goose just don’t strike the same chord…especially because they spent just portions of their careers with the Yanks.”
That’s when Mo, Jeter, Bernie, Jorge and Andy come back as the guys who will be the show. Of course, I shudder at the thought of seeing Mo, Jeter and Jorge as old timer’s, and not being actual Yankees.
I seriously doubt Torre will come back – first off, he’s still bitter and I suspect he will stay that way for a looooooooooong time.
Hows Moose pitching in this game already? Is he going to throw underhand to the old folks or all fastballs? Seriously.
Honestly, I skim the papers for Yankee news…though the beat writers have the most access, the best information comes from the web. I don’t want their opinions, I just want the information.
Sos, it will be funny if Mussina picks this game to finally start pitching inside
I’ll agree that the changeup, or lack thereof, limits Phil’s ceiling.
But, I think he can still learn the pitch to some degree of success. And even if he doesn’t, he still can be a successful pitcher without it.
Pitchers, especially the ones who pitch into their late 30′s & early 40′s, continue to refine their game and adapt.
Phil Hughes is one smart (and tough) cookie. He’ll figure it out. We forget that he lost over a year of development time, and he’s still playing catchup.
Torre will absolutely be back. He even said as much during his golf tournament last week.
Nice of the Yankees to bring the widows back.
When does Mattingly come back for this? Randolph Piniella?
It sucks that the Yankees greatest players are all deceased for this event.
I’m sorry, If I’m an old timer I don’t want to hear all the guys younger than me who died in the past year. I’m here to relive my youth not contemplate how I’m living on borrowed time.
Thankfully the weather is good for the OT game today. All too often in recent history, the game is marred by rain or winds.
Mattingly, Randolph, and Pinella are all coaching today.
Phil Hughes needs to stay in the bullpen. He’s incredibly comfortable there and has been every time he’s been a reliever – even two years ago when he pitched in the playoffs in relief. I really think this is what he’s best suited for and he is the true heir apparent to Mariano.
Aura – that’s why you weren’t invited today.
Donnie, Randolph, & Piniella might show up if they weren’t, you know, busy.
If this game is held in the off-season, then yeah I think they show up.
phil needs a changeup.
wether it is a 3 fingered one or a circle change.
I’m not worried about Phil and the change – he’s just 23; he’ll work on it and get it to be a good pitch for him
Who was AJ talking with?
Was AJ the only player they showed on the broadcast on the top step?
I think they also showed Cody Ransom, not sure though.
Girardi’s son sports the same crew cut as his Dad.
You shouldn’t even write a single negative thing about this. This is everything right about this organization. Makes me proud to be a fan.
Mattingly, Willie are coaches. They have their own games today.
Very classy remembering Murcer, Howard, and of course the Captain.
Billy – it is not possible for this blog to be positive. Rebecca’s optimism crusade from 2007 never caught on, sadly.
As CB said, some people never get a feel for the change— it doesn’t have to do with lack of trying. A lot of smart hardworking pitchers never got it down.
Zimmer’s pretty stubborn. He was asked if he’s going to speak to George and he said that “he’s not ready for that”. I hate to say this, but if he wants to try and mend fences, he should do it fairly soon as George isn’t all that well…
The Ghost,
I can see him shaking off Girardi and throwing one of his knuckle curves nailing someone and all hell breaks loose. Before you know it Zimmer is doing his UFC version of ground fighting. O.K. maybe not. But it would have been funny if they did the wwe version and faked all of it. Fans would love it!!
Spent the past half hour wiping tears from my face. I love this tribute to our former players, all of whom I’ve watched on the field at some point in my life.
Did anyone realize the lineup’s been up for a while? Are you guys so distracted that you didn’t notice that Gardner’s batting 2nd?
Zapp, it’s way too early to say that Phil will never get it down. He had in two years ago in Texas and since then it’s been one long stretch of rehab. The problem with Phil being in the pen now is that he can’t work on the change – how is it going to improve unless he works on it (outside bullpen sessions)? He’ll very likely go to winter ball and throw it a LOT ……..after that, we’ll have a better idea of where he stands with that pitch
Zimmer is a bum he should of not been welcomed back after his comments defending the rays injuring Cervelli in spring training.
Thanks, m, for inciting more line-up complaining. Really? This blog gets bogged down with that garbage on regular days, but on OT day, too?
“Was just Watching the 1971 all-star game on MLB. Torre at third. They showed him crouching real low before the pitch said it was Clete Boyer’s influence.”
tarheelyank-
clete was just a natural fielder. when he was the manager of a winter ball team i was the bullpen catcher for, he would sometimes come over and warm up with me . he still threw and caught the ball so natural like water flowing out of a bottle. he was just so smooth.
graig nettles was also on that team and one day graig came over to clete to chat with him while i was throwing with clete. all of a sudden it dawned on me i was playing catch with the two best yankee third baseman in history.
naturally i choked like a dog and couldn’t throw straight. i aimed for clete and the ball went to graig. i aimed at graig and the ball went to clete. they thought i was kidding around and thought it was pretty funny.
luckily for me they were the exception fielders they were. i got the hell out of there as soon as the first pitcher wanted to warm up in the bullpen
clete will be missed. he influenced many a yankee infielder and many a yankee. he influenced jeter among others with his teaching.
randolph and others would be here if they could…
mattingly will be back..
Moose throwing to Girardi. I like this
The change-up will help Hughes a lot against lefties.
This year, they are hitting .253 with a 1.38 WHIP against him. Righites have a .211 BAA and a 1.08 WHIP.
For his career, lefties are hitting .275 with a 1.64 WHIP, compared to a .231 BAA and a 1.12 WHIP against righties.
Moose’s mechanics still look good.
Zapp,
And did at least some of those smart, hardworking pitchers still have good major league careers?
That’s my only point, people are making like it’s a make or break pitch for Phil. Somehow, I don’t think it is.
You can say that it will raise his ceiling, but I just don’t think it relegates Phil to the scrap pile of pitchers if he never masters the pitch.
m,
Whats going on bff? So are they keeping Odom or is he going back to Miami? IMO he cant leave or the Lakers are weakend considerably. He causes a miss match everytime hes out there.
BTW,
im sticking with the Spurs. Love the Jefferson trade and the Blair draft.
Moose looks so happy…………
m,
Exactly. He can still be a successful pitcher without the change, but won’t reach the ceiling he could, if he developed it.
I remember watching Clete Boyer play and he amazed me. I was always “scared” to play third. The ball just seems to come at you like a shot, second felt a lot safer. But boy Boyer could play that hot corner. Sometimes I think baseball was a much simpler game. The news really covered the players off the field and if they did I musta ignored it cuz I thought Mickey was god.
Phil,
I’m sorry. Truly sorry. Should I just leave now?
Dan,
Phil can use the “coder” for now.
moose getting rocked
Zimmer is a bum he should of not been welcomed back after his comments defending the rays injuring Cervelli in spring training.
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Cant you say the same thing about Torre writing a tell all book and throwing some players under the bus? Didnt Zimmer talk trash about George when he was leaving to Tampa? I think in the end its all forgiven. The pros out weigh the cons.
Moose getting lit up.
77513, Cervelli agreed with Zimmer:
“Cervelli, who played last year at Class A Tampa, said of the play: “It’s OK. It’s part of the game.”
Moose needs to take matters in his own hands… throw the knucklecurve and see if they can hit it.
m – the constant negativity gets old.
The Ghost
July 19th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
77513, Cervelli agreed with Zimmer:
“Cervelli, who played last year at Class A Tampa, said of the play: “It’s OK. It’s part of the game.”
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Girardi didn’t agree
That relay was hilarious!
Pepitone is wearing a Toupee and has for years and years.
Without the toupee…Joe Pepitone is bald as a trailer hitch. Also not the greatest guy in the world.
Did anyone else hear someone absolutely scream “Mussina’s gonna get pissed off” into a camera’s microphone? Hilarious.
Doesn’t Verlander wear 35 because Mussina was his favorite player?
77513 wrote:
Girardi didn’t agree
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Girardi was wrong
Trevor – I believe you are correct. Thought I read that last year.
zimmer is the absolute best.
The Ghost
July 19th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
77513 wrote:
Girardi didn’t agree
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Girardi was wrong
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No he wasn’t even Keith Hernandez said that you dont collide with the catcher during spring training.
“Doesn’t Verlander wear 35 because Mussina was his favorite player?”
I think so. He grew up an O’s fan right? That probably explains it
actually, you know what is interesting about that Cervelli incidient last year? It actually ended up benefitting Tampa because the Yankees had no backup for Molina when Posada went down last year. If Cervelli remained healthy it’s possible he could have had developed last year to the point where he could have been brought up.
“Moose was a victim of have a bunch of old guys playing defense.”
Sounds like the last 4 years of his career.
SoS,
Hey. Odom? Either way. He’s good, when he’s focused. Took 3 years with us to figure it out? The Lakers’ offer was fair. 3 years/$30m or 4 years/$36m. That’s a lot of coin for a 6th man.
He loves LA and the lifestyle, but if he insists on the 5 years good luck. Everyone else can only offer the MLE. If he doesn’t come back we still have Artest (okay I gagged typing that).
Spurs did good. They’re now mentioned in the same breath with the Lakers, lol. The question is can the older stars stay healthy? Blair? Won’t make an impact right away. Do you still have Bonner? He might blossom.
I think we’re both going to have to watch out for the Blazers, though. They’re going to sneak up real soon.
LOL Joe really does look like he could still play…….
I hope and pray Doc can stay clean. The weight gain is a good sign as drug abusers often gain weight once they get clean as they replace the drugs with other vices – namely food.
Gardner second gives him a great opportunity to get pitches to hit with Jeter and Tex hitting in front and behind him. It’s not a great thing for Jeter, but he’ll still probably see some good pitches to hit.
I like where Gardner is today. It just made sense when I saw it and thus, I neglected to comment.
77513, a lot of people say you shouldn’t do it during the All-Star game either. If Girardi truly believed that then he should have instructed all of his catchers not to block the plate during spring training. Why didn’t he do that? The fact that he didn’t makes him a hypocrite.
zimmer has done far more for the yankees & baseball to just burry him over his comments about a catcher getting hurt.
zimmer has a lot of bad feelings about the way torre was treated.
torre should of been told that he can manage as long as he want’s to.
if i am the owners thats what i would of told him.
magic like that comes arount a few times in a century.
LOL AJ begging Doc to give him his autograph – he couldn’t believe that Doc knew his name (called him “A). I didn’t realize this until AJ’s Q & A with Steve Serby, but his fav players growing up were Doc and Straw……..
Do you still have Bonner? He might blossom.
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I gagged reading that. Im hoping someone takes him off our hands. Huge pickup in Artest. But your strength was the depth. Odem is huge.
Talk to you later. Gotta go.
Phil,
You obviously don’t know me if you think I’m negative.
People don’t need me to incite them to be negative. They’ll either complain or not on their own.
If you haven’t noticed, lineup complaints have become a joke. You don’t even see the complaints anymore. Why? Because the team is winning now.
So my complaint about the lack of lineup complaints was a joke.
Hopefully, we’ll win, and we can laugh this one off?
I do like how Verlander is getting a kick out of the whole thing……
Randy
Thanks for the story. I knew Clete was one of your favorites. Funny how Kubek thought to mention him tutoring Torre as a 3b. My favorite bat as kid came frome bat day, Of course it was a “Clete Boyer” model.
Is Guidry the most easy going guy you’ve ever seen or what?
Girardi should catch Joba today.
You can tell Burnett loves being a Yankee
Hey guys, I never dream about baseball, but last night I did. Joba was pitching in the 9th inning, throwing less than 100 pitches at that point. I don’t remember the score but obviously Joba was cruising.
Now, who has had a more improbably dream than that?
Trevor, that would be hilarious
wow, they showed a replay of Griffey’s catch again – it’s still as amazing as it was back then.
Jeter 2, he definitely does. I didn’t see it, but apparently he was chatting up Goose – nice to see the players appreciating Yankees history.
AJ and Verlander are getting a kick out of this game
Are they the only ones watching this? lol
aww, I love Mel – it’s so nice to see him back.
Halladay gets an out, then gives up a single and double against the Sux to start the game.
He has not been the same at all since the injury
I just realized Posada Posada is catching this entire series.
Hit Man – I bet you’re right. It’s the same thing as Hughes went through when he pulled him hamstring a couple of years ago. Took him the rest of the season to get over it and get his leg strength back. I wonder if Cash has that in mind.
RHP Phil Hughes added another eye-popping day out of the bullpen on the night his manager said the only way he would start again this season is if another starting pitcher was injured. Hughes, who has been electric in short relief, struck out all six hitters he faced in the Yankees’ 5-3 win over Detroit on Friday night. Hughes has allowed just two runs in 20 1/3 innings of relief while striking out 25.
(Yahoo! Sports)
aw, Tom………4 hole playoff at the British Open
now for the real stuff.
let’s go joba.
Katt doing the Red Sox broadcast right now. Kinda weird
Boo on millar. Still a Yankee killer.
“”It’ll be interesting to see if they give Montero a legit look next spring or if they simply ticket Cervelli for Molina’s job and Montero plays every day in Scranton.
Another option would be to have Montero take Matsui’s spot on the roster where he learns from Jorge and Pena every day, catches once or twice a week and DHs about half the time. It could be a good learning experience if his bat is ready.”"
I think he’d learn a lot more catching every day and figuring things out for himself. And do not underestimate MiL Coaches
It feels good having haters say Jesus will never stick at catcher uninformed fans advocate trading him while our GM will not have any intentions of trading him for awhile, at least until he develops from x to y.
But Barajas who was 0-20 gets the job done. 2-1 Jays.
YES Clubhouse Report with Kim Jones and Bob Lorenz:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62884824027ccb91/
Open playoff has begun.
Go Watson. Old Timers Day demands no less.
Where was Clemens for Old Timers Day ?
Pel, you’re posting pre-game links too, now? You should ask Pete for a raise!
Hearing these guys talk about how good it is to be at OTD, seeing their faces (did you see Doc Gooden’s face??), this day is for these guys, and we fans are given the privilege of watching.
It’s not about who was a legend and who was a part-timer. It’s a reunion of a fraternity. Very, very touching.
Anyone know where I can listen to blue jays game?
Don Zimmer is the man.
There’s been so much talk this year about the Stadium playing small and how it’s a “whiffle ball park” etc, etc.
The yankees have had the most productive offense in baseball this year. The implication over and over again has been that the yankees offense is simply a product of playing at yankees stadium. They’re basically the texas rangers of the AL East.
SG over at the RLYB did yet another fantastic analysis today looking at this.
He basically ranked AL teams by weighted on base average to see what teams offenses were the best on the road.
The yankees offense was – by far – the best, even on the road.
The yankees to date have created 47 more runs than an average team would have playing on the road.
The Rays are third – 33 more runs created.
Toronto – 5th – 23 more.
The Red Sox are seventh at 18 runs created above average on the road. Their home/road production splits are very large. Much larger than the yankees.
The yankees have often been compared to Texas – another high scoring team that plays in a park conducive to scoring.
The Rangers this year on the road have created 25 runs FEWER than an average team is expected to create on the road.
The Stadium may be playing small in RF, but that’s not even close to the reason why the offense leads the league in runs scored.
http://www.replacementlevel.co.....ly_17_2009
and Doc Gooden
why wasnt roger clemens at the old timers
Anybody know a site/have a link to a site that I can check stats at? Particularly looking for something where I can check stats over the past 50 games, etc.
Doreen, most retired players say that what they miss is the camraderie of the clubhouse, not the playing………it’s wonderful to see these guys, ALL of them, not just the big names. I loved Pat Kelly, Mike Easler, Oscar Gamble, Ken Griffey Sr……
It’s wonderful also that the current players on both sides were clearly getting a big kick out of this….
The Yankees are a very good road team, always have been………and their offense has been terrific. Blaming the new stadium has become the “in” thing to do and a knee jerk reaction…..
I just noticed Michael Kay
Indian Outlaw for Joba ?
Joba on the mound… get ready for another long, 4 hour game
Joba and Posada…here we go
Let’s go Yankees and Jobber. Let’s see some improvement from the young man
I hope Joba comes out with attitude and purpose. Send a message that this is not a player to give up on.
So I want to be outside on this gorgeous day, so I brought my laptop out with me and the connection is very iffy at best. Yuck.
Let’s go Joba!
Enjoy the game everyone.
Come on Joba!
95.5!
Did I see a 95.5
ugh joba not able to put anyone away.
Do something athletic over the break?
Ima give Joba the same benefit as AJ and CC. Lets see if he can battle.
the yankees are 23rd in era & 12th in whip in all of baseball.
can you imagine how good they would be if their pitching was a little better?
at all costs they have to fix the pitching.
does not mean a trade but one is probably needed.
Come on Joba work out the extra rest kinks and end this inning. Settle in and let’s go!
Doreen
is your labtop a sattelite connection?
how do you connect to the internet?
What’s the over/under on the number of articles in the papers tomorrow that include a quote from Goose about how Joba should be in the pen?
establish the fastball Joba and throw your other stuff after.. Mixes too many pitches to start the game.
come on Jobber. Finish
fastball around 91-93 on the TBS gun.
24 pitches
23 pitch 1st inning.
What an improvement.
“the yankees are 23rd in era & 12th in whip in all of baseball.”
The thing about their pitching staff is that it has a very low BAA. I think their bullpen has the lowest BAA in all of baseball and is first in K’s.
The rotation doesn’t give up a lot of hits either. The problem with the entire pitching staff is two things: walks and HRs. I believe they are either first or second in baseball in those 2 categories.
the optimist in me sees joba settling down and finding a groove…i hope hes right.
23 pitches.yuck.
we need a few quick innings.
just throw strikes.the defense will take care of the rest.
I like the fact that Joba was throwing his fastball inside to the hitters, you got to do that to be successful.
Welcome back, Pete.
23 pitches isn’t gonna cut it Joba…after the Granderson ab i was feeling pretty good….and then Polanco came up…5 minutes later, Polanco draws a walk..
the optimist in me sees joba settling down and finding a groove…i hope hes right.
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I’m hoping that happens also. We’ll see
11-12 ball to strike ratio against the free swinging Tigers.
with guys like Polanco and Thomas Joba should be throwing his fastball at the top and inside of the zone, they dont have the bat speed to catch it
Looking extremely grim for Tom Watson in the playoff… Cink is taking a 4-shot lead into the final hole of the playoff. Really a shame, Watson had the tourney in his grasp and couldn’t make par on 18.
“Picture-perfect baseball weather today 80 degrees and white puffy clouds.”
No. perfect baseball weather is 75 degrees and 70% cloudy with 10 mph breeze.
I don’t mind the high pitch count as long as Joba doesn’t give up runs. Last year Joba hardly went deep into games but he had a good ERA and always, always gave the team a chance to win. I think that’s as much as we can expect out of him at this point.
The one thing I would like to see is fewer walks on 0-2 and 1-2 counts. Hitters fouling pitches off is something that can’t be helped, but he can definitely cut down on the walks.
Well we’re going to make it a quick inning so Joba better be ready for the 2nd.
LOL
who do you think has a brighter future – joba or edwin jackson?
nice hit tex lol!
Joe picked a good day to rest Damon, huh?
Thanks sun for the single!
At some point though Joba is going to have to be depended on to get 7 innings. Not this 4-5 inning stuff. True he’s not giving up runs, but he could do that in the bullpen (and we won’t go into the bullpen-starter argument). He puts too much pressure on the bullpen when he only goes 4-5 innings
nice hustle from Tex to be on 2nd base. How many players would have been jogging to first?
Terrible call by the ump on that strike 2
lol at Alex cursing…They need to turn those mics down
Tex definitely wins the hustle award, just like the Castillo gift play
15 pitches for Jackson
great article on montero
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07.....180100.htm
Do not walk Inge!
Vaguely amusing that the OPPC appears to annoy people so much they have to call attention to NOT being a member in their names.
Heh. Ironic.
wow, another walk for Joba. There’s a shocker
its just a struggle for joba all the time…waiting for that light bulb to turn on…it has happened to many pitchers, it can happen to joba too!
Gameday has those 2 pitches on the outside corner as strikes is this UMP squeezing Jackson or just Joba?
Vaguely amusing that the whole positive posting thing appears to annoy people so much they have to call attention to them not being a member in their names.
Heh. Kinda ironic.
man..melky cant see anything out there lol
Stewart Cink is your 2009 Open champion.
what does goodering mean ?
Man, LF is going to be an adventure all day.
Alright, now he needs another 1-2 pitch ab
Good save by Gardner.
LF is hell is out there.
The filter on this site is rather annoying. No rhyme nor reason for what gets stuck in it, sometimes.
Nice catch Gardner! Joba walking guys. Control could be better. Now has a balk. Seems to me he hasn’t learned much from the last starts. To his credit- No runs yet!
Wow, giant choke job by Watson…. You’re in the lead the whole tourney then you bogey the 18th to blow it. That’s too bad, I was really pulling for him to win.
If Gardner pops one up to LF, it could be an inside the park homer.
Jobalk
the 3rd base ump called a balk?…why is that even allowed lol…not sure if i have ever seen that
34 pitches for the Jobber
Goose thinks he belongs in the pen.
Alright lets be confident…I say 3 up-3 down next inning for Joba. With 2 Ks
GO JOBBER!!! Let’s will him to greatness, fellow optimists! Remember…If you will it, Dude, it is no dream.
Let’s go Yankees!
I was pulling for old man Watson. Would have been better if he could of beaten Tiger, but that didn’t work out.
Cink won the 4-hole playoff by 6 strokes. Total implosion by Watson… it’s as if his game just left him after he bogeyed the 72nd hole of the tourney and missed out on the win.
Brutal. That’s why they call it golf!
Golf sucks.
ABC was lucky Tom Watson did as well as he did. Woods not making the cut is a ratings nightmare.
Johnny D. July 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Golf sucks.
lol
Its pretty much walking
KO, Watson was not in the lead the entire tourney. He lost the lead and then regained it both yesterday and today. He made many, many clutch shots and puts to be in the position he was in on 18.
Word up Johnny D. I’d rather watch competitive quadratic equation-solving.
that’s why you don’t trot out of the box, cano.
Cano can’t be that slow
Is anyone else following the game in Toronto? Great pitching match-up (Halladay – Lester).
Darn it DP
25 pitches for Jackson
If Cano actually ran a bit harder he would have beat the throw.. He looked like he was slowing up going to first.
Good play, but man, if there’s a guy on 1st Cano is a freakin’ lock to hit the ball on the ground to the right side
sigh @ Cano. Cant even compare his prosensity for the GIDP to 2007-08 Jeter because at least Jetes always hustled!
Thats ok tho, Joba bouts to throw up a zero!
and Kay says “just in time to get the hustling Cano” ?
He is still on vacation?
Cano is still tired from all the athletic things he did during the AS break. Thanks, Girardi!
i need a link to watch the game anyone?????
haaaaaaaaa here comes at least a run this inning
Let’s go Joba! DP ball.
Here neo:
http://atdhe.net/watch-baseball.php?i=8
It’s obvious what Joba’s problem is, and it’s not that he shouldn’t be a starter or anything that extreme.
It’s mechanical, and it’s in his head. He can’t throw his breaking pitches for strikes consistently anymore, and in general his breaking balls have been flatter. He gets to 1-2, and instead of hitters chasing his slider, they spit on it. Then he tries to get them to chase on another pitch, and all of a sudden it’s 3-2, and now he is in trouble.
It’s mental. His breaking pitches are inconsistent, and that’s a problem for him because that’s how he has always gotten his outs, with his plus plus slider and curveball. He hasn’t made the adjustment yet, in terms of getting quicker outs on your fastball and going through innings on fewer pitches. He’s still trying to get guys out with his breaking stuff every time he gets to 2 strikes, except he doesn’t have his good breaking stuff now because of bad delivery/mechanics.
Does Joba not throw change ups anymore?
I’ve been looking for one too neo. I’m in Ohio and the tigers viewing area so i cant watch it on mlb.tv. and i dont get tbs. and the bar is closed!!! ahhhhh
Haha another leadoff walk, way to go Joba!
Joba could save a ton of pitches each inning if he would just hit the first guy leading off instead of walking them.
Millar
thanks s.a.!!!
I’m heart broken over this jackass kid.
How could he be listening to all that negative media about how he sucks and should be sent down to AAA or TRADED and still not come into this game and dominate?
I really expected something special out of him today.
nice…. fastballs on 0-2 to Polanco, goin right after him… that’s what you need to do JOba
to S.A.–Serenity Now thanks very much
Joba could save a ton of pitches each inning if he would just hit the first guy leading off instead of walking them.
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Trevor I haven’t seen him throw his change in what seems like forever! He isn’t using his curveball as much as I’d like either. IIRC, the last time he pitched against the Tigers, he used it to get Miguel Cabrera swinging with the bases juiced. Obviously it can be effective and I’d like to see him use it more!
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
July 19th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Joba could save a ton of pitches each inning if he would just hit the first guy leading off instead of walking them.”
LOL
NICE. Good sequence of pitches there.
see what a 95 mph fastball can do Joba?
Nice fastball from Joba – 95 MPH on the outside corner.
ooo…95 on the outside corner for the k..i like that
It would be nice if Joba figured his mechanics out and then came out and pitched a complete game shutout with 11 K’s. With his “stuff” he could do that, but frustrating transistion period can be annoying to watch. Even Edwin Jackson was wild with Tampa.
Couldn’t be happier that the RS finally get to experience Hallday.top of the 7th Tor-3 RS-1 hehehe!
“Golf sucks.
lol
Its pretty much walking”
not the way tiger plays it.
he brought athleticism into the game.
try to swing a golf club 130 mph+
if you do that, you’re an athlete ( tour average is about 110mph)
so some are walkers and then there’s the players like tiger.
Joba had this same problem last year too, except he covered it up because his breaking pitches were just out of this world good last year. Remember the times he kept giving up HR go guys like Jose Guillen on hanging sliders and such? He has always been in love with that pitch, except now it isn’t there for him to get away with it.
Wow terrible throw by Posada!! Geez!
jorge
NICE THROW GEORGE!!
Embarrassing.
He’s finally challenging hitters with his FB.
Might of had him with a better throw…just ugly
What was that!?!??!! 5ft off the bag at second??! C’mon Posada
nice job(a)
joba looking great
Joba is getting it done so far. His fastball looks better now.
excellent 3 hitters after that leadoff walk. See Joba… you can pitch well… remember dude… let’s get some runs now
CHEA!!! You go Joba!!!
Jorge looked like a relic from the just-played Old Timers Day game on that throw lol
joba is going to be fine.
one day the bulb will light up & we will see the dominant joba.
hopefully it is sooner than later because we have all seen how nasty he can be.
it is one thing to pitch a great game once in a while or early in a career but to keep doing it against great ml hitters that work very hard & watch tons of video is another thing.
if joba can learn to throw all of his pitches for strikes & keep hitters honest with an offspeed pitch & by pitching inside just enough to prevent hitters from owning the outside of the plate he will be fine.
52 pitches for our little rollercoaster
I <3 this kid so much. I know we all do. It's like a walk in the park on a beautiful spring day to watch him pitch this way! Gratifying after soo many consecutive starts of frustration. Go Jobber, keep it up!!!!
Posada can throw harder, but at least Kay Murcer and Diana Munson can throw straight.
SA, WOW! THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Joba avg 17.33 pitches an inning, so far,he could make 6 innings or more with some low count innings.
I don’t care what Swisher does today, I hope he does well, but why the hell is still being trotted out there everyday when we have Hinske on the bench? Ignoring the fact he’s hit 4 homers or something, he’s a better fundamental player than Swisher. Swisher was supposed to be a platoon player anyhow. Girardi is lame for not giving Hinske and Gardner more playing time over Swisher….
the snide remarks are getting old pete.
randy l.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
“Golf sucks.
lol
Its pretty much walking”
not the way tiger plays it.
he brought athleticism into the game.
try to swing a golf club 130 mph+
if you do that, you’re an athlete ( tour average is about 110mph)
so some are walkers and then there’s the players like tiger.
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Athleticism for some….for others, not so much. I spent so much time in the woods and weeds, I didn’t know whether I was a snake or a stalker.
“one day the bulb will light up & we will see the dominant joba.”
It looks like it’s starting to come back on! Loved that pitch sequence to Thames. Thats our boy!!!! With all his potential, and given the past month or so of frustration, watching him pitch this way is like taking a beautiful walk in the park on a breezy spring afteroon and finding $100 bill on the ground or something. Keep it up Joba!!!!
Swishy walks
Joba-style pitching there. From 0-2 to a walk.
KO, I totally agree………..Swisher needs less playing time, more for Hinske & Gardner…………………
Ohhhh Swish! That must be so embarrassing hahahaha
2 dp like that in a row, unreal
This is ugly
People can’t actually believe Hinske is a better player than Swisher. Swisher has an .820 OPS and is a much better right fielder, which isn’t saying much. But he is.
Hinske wasn’t playing for the Pirates. Just because he hit a few homers in pinstripes doesn’t mean he suddenly became a good player,
ugh…wasted opportunity to ramp up Jackson’s pitch count, x2.
“I don’t care what Swisher does today, I hope he does well, but why the hell is still being trotted out there everyday when we have Hinske on the bench? Ignoring the fact he’s hit 4 homers or something, he’s a better fundamental player than Swisher. Swisher was supposed to be a platoon player anyhow. Girardi is lame for not giving Hinske and Gardner more playing time over Swisher….”
They’re both pretty much the same player. Playing everyday for both of them exposes a lot of weaknesses in their game. But, that being said, swisher has better plate discipline and a little more pop in his bat.
Swisher is a career .243 hitter and a .355 on base percentage and Hinske is a career .255 with a .337. The difference between them isn’t a lot.
If Hinske played as much as Swisher he wouldn’t do well. There’s a reason why Hinske wasn’t even starting on the Pirates lol
nick the better player.
Funny, because Jeter went as far as Clete Thomas the other day and that was called a no swing, and then Jeter had that same check swing again yesterday and it was called a swing.
Can these guys be any more obvious?
Hinske is a folk hero… we never lost when he plays, most of the time.
this game feels much like yesterday…
Hinske is in no way better than Swisher, but he’s probably good enough to play more than he does.
The Yankees are getting away from their game plan – hit the ball in the air to sunny LF.
Can Joba have a pitch count under 15 this inning? Or is that too much to ask for?
polanco is killing them…
Not saying that Hinske is a better player than Swisher, but that right now Swisher is in the midst of a horrible slump and has consistently shown a lack of fundamentals on the field. Sometimes you need to give a guy a day off when he’s in a slump to let him get it back together, and not only that but Hinske has done everything you can ask for while with the Yankees and has hit very well. He has earned a start once in a while over Nick Swisher who is hitting .230 with a million strikeouts.
Roy Halladay is in the 8th right now against the Red Sox.. leading 3-1 and has a strike to ball ratio of 68-21
wow that ball was crushed….big time
MotherFER!!!
So predictable with the slider
Clete Thomas, future HOFer.
That right there is the definition of a “hanging slider”
CLETE
Cool name D bag =(
Halladay at 92 pitches.. will probably finish the game vs the Red Sox.
all right Joba – you win. Go back to the lead off walk.
darn
and now joba “looks like” hes throwing harder…pissed off?
only a run.
wow…bad pitch…we’ll get that run back though. Keep ya head up Jobber!! Way to come charging back with that 95(?) mph fastball!
It’s only 1-0 in the 4th. We’ll be fine.
Fastball creeping up on the gun =)
jobo looks very very good
halladay taking care of business.
Halladay is dealing
Joba throwing some heat. Two 96 mph pitches after that homerun. It’s only a run we can get it back.
95.9
Halladay through 8IP -
92 pitches, 70 strikes
that’s quite an audition…
keep it up joba
See ATTACK JOBA!
Way to rebound. Nice job.
nice.
just throw strikes
Just stupid. That’s what I mean.
Thomas had not even come close to catching up to his fastball the entire at bat, and what did he do? He threw him a slider!
You can’t make this stuff up, you really can’t. Have you ever seen this many obvious mistakes in pitching selection with Molina behind the plate? You need Posada’s bat, but there is no denying that he is terrible defensively.
And it’s not even that Joba hung the slider, but that you even went to it in the first place. EVen if he buries that in the dirt and Thomas lays off it like he probably would have, you helped him out and put him back in the count when he was on the ropes. If anything, throw him the changeup away, but definitely not the slider that he is sitting on!
>and now joba “looks like” hes throwing harder…pissed off?
He should throw his slider better out of frustration.
His fastball wasn’t the culprit.
I’m watching the Sox game. Gotta say, it’s more enjoyable than this Yankee game.
Matt that’s what strikeout pitchers do. Get the guy in a pitcher’s count then throw your strikeout pitch. In this case JOba just hung it
edwin jackson is good.
to bad we didn’t have him.
he turned it around nicely.
the rays must be mad they got rid of him.
Well Joba sure isnt letting that hanging slider hang around his psyche. LOVING THESE FASTBALLS!!!! And I havent seen him throw this many curves in a while. Looks like he is getting back to what he does best! I sooo want the offense to scratch out a few runs and get this win for him. Would be huge.
the 3 hitters after thomas were prbly joba’s best 3 batter sequence of the day
Yankees ruined the old timers game with Keith O. What an awful person.
The Blue Jays better win after that performance by Doc.
So I actually think this is a good start so far.
Wow, Jobs’a really fallen. Now’s he’s joined the players who are occasionally the butt of snide remarks during games.
*shrug* He’s in good company though, I guess.
yup Posada’s fault. you can’t call for a hanging slider there.
Posada should have called for the good bite slider.
“Have you ever seen this many obvious mistakes in pitching selection with Molina behind the plate? ”
Yes….last time Joba pitched when Molina caught him.
Joba even.
there’s a difference between “more talented” and “a better fundamental player”. Sorry, but Hinske performs the fundamentals of baseball better than Swisher. I’m not talking talent, I’m not talking stats, I’m talking fundamentals. I’m tired of Swisher’s strikeouts, horrible defense, and base running errors. He can be a good player for us, but he’s playing too many innings. Some of his innings that he’s been getting need to go to Gardner and Hinske. It’s that simple.
There are times and places to throw your “strikeout pitch,” and that time is not when the other guy is incredibly late on your fastball. You throw that pitch when you see him starting to cheat on the fastball, it’s about being aware of what hitters are trying to do.
When you throw that pitch and he is already late on the fastball, you are speeding up his bat and helping him out. Whether it’s his “strikeout pitch” or not, that’s not the spot to throw it. A strikeout is just as good as a groundout to short in that spot, and Joba shouldn’t be trying to strike all these guys out anyway.
com’on Gardenhoser
They showed JP watching doc pitch, he was chewing gum and, shockingly, not on the phone fielding an offer for Doc (or calling Mr. Cashman). What feverish plot was running through his head???
The Yankees forgot how to play baseball
Joba broke avg that inning only 15 a pitch inning,but comes with a run as we know. But he’s looking good!
“Sorry, but Hinske performs the fundamentals of baseball better than Swisher.”
How do you know that? Where is your evidence? If you’re going to make a statement like that you need to back it up with proof.
“The Yankees forgot how to play baseball”
how?
KO………Too bad you can’t penetrate Girardi’s thick skull……Swisher should be playing PART-TIME…
HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alex didn’t though
yea arod!
a-ROD!
AN A-BOMB
See? 1-run deficit is nothing.
Alex, I am in awe.
by by
arod……………………………
Al saids “What’s my name”
Nothing cheap there.
A-Rod has been HOT HOT HOT!!!!
Arod picks up Joba! No cheapie on that one.
ABOMMMMMMB!
AROD IS IN A ZONE!!!
game looks a lot like yesterday!!
Halladay CG coming….
I can’t wait to see him in NL.
He’s gong to set a new record for CGs in that mickey mouse league
TOLD YA WE’D GET IT BACK!!!!!! Woooooo
I hope Laird and Verlander are ok with that one.
LOL! Big Papi just had his homerun stance, but it was caught before the track. Man he is just a stinker.
Time to get to Edwin Jackson.
But a first pitch curveball for a strike against a tough hitter is NOT a mistake in pitch selection. Joba hung it last time, that was not a mistake in pitch selection. A mistake in pitch selection is to throw your breaking ball when the opposing hitter is very late on your fastball and is inbetween.
A mistake pitch in terms of selection is to throw the wrong pitch for the situation, and results do not affect whether it was the right or the wrong pitch. A slider when he is very late on your fastball is a mistake, but if he threw that slider when he was say cheating on the fastball and ripping it foul down the first base line would have been a good move.
ePic
July 19th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
“Sorry, but Hinske performs the fundamentals of baseball better than Swisher.”
How do you know that? Where is your evidence? If you’re going to make a statement like that you need to back it up with proof.”
Fundamentals??
Are we talking about Yankees or the Mets?
Fundamentals HAH
Of all the people who post on here, I have never seen anybody so consistently clueless as you Matt.
Do you realize, you second guess EVERYTHING after the fact? 100% of the time.
That’s one thing. The other part of it is, you are absolutely clueless in almost every second guess.
Joba hung a slider. That happens and that’s baseball.
He can’t just throw fastballs on every pitch. If you had a clue, would realize his biggest weakness IS fastball command.
Changeup away? Are you serious? That’s the easiest pitch for a LH to hook into the wind tunnel in right.
This isn’t a catcher issue. Its a PITCHER issue.
In every game, EVERY pitcher will hang a pitch. Sometimes, as was the case with CC on numerous occasions yesterday, you get outs. Other times you don’t.
At some point, one would think you would learn something by now.
Sadly, as soon as something else goes wrong, you will still spill nonsensical and incorrect drivel.
In the immortal words of Jim Mora, “You just don’t get it and you never will”.
The Mets fans are going to slit thier throat when Doc lands in Philly.
Most good hitters in the majors hit mistake pitches. When they get a mistake they make the pitcher pay.
The really special players are the ones who hit the pitchers pitch.
It’s really unbelievable to watch Alex play the game.
That was a terrific pitch by jackson. 95 mph fastball low in the zone.
And Alex just crushes it to CF. Crushes it. And it was a terrific pitch.
I wonder if Tigers fans are clamoring to put Inge behind the plate now cause Laird’s pitch selection sucks? Or are only we (well, not me, haha) crazy enough to do that?
Also looks like Jackson doesnt want any part of Matsui today…or maybe that’s Laird’s fault…or somehow Posada’s? Would it be different if Molina or Cervelli were playing?
Michael Kay is debunking the “Arod is a stat padder” myth.
come on Posada
Hey guys Doc just isn’t the same…maybe hes still injured
The hip hip jorge is extemely annoying through the entire ab
Sux lose it!
After Joba gives up a HR, he gets 3 quick outs. After Jackson gives up a HR, he walks the next two batters.
Wow, what an unclutch walk by Jorge. IF ONLY MOLINA WAS PLAYING!
Doc K’s Ellsbury for the CG.
I just came back in – seems like Joba is showing some improvement today. He has a hard time with the 5th inning, though – I really would be happy if he could get through 6 today and give us a decent performance. If the Yanks win, great; if not, they took 2/3 from a very good Tigers team.
Quick, did they show Verlander in the dugout? Was he smiling after A-rod homered today?
That new Chili’s ad sucks.
Blue Jays win!
Cano could really use a big hit here.
good stuff Doc. O’CANADA!
Cano the Clutch.
Jackson’s pitch count is creeping closer to Joba’s.
Come on Robi!
Ok, good – so no matter what happens today, we don’t lose ground to the Sux. Nice to see Doc bounce back – he’d been not at his best since the injury.
“They showed JP watching doc pitch, he was chewing gum and, shockingly, not on the phone fielding an offer for Doc (or calling Mr. Cashman). What feverish plot was running through his head???”
he was thinking” i can’t believe i took over this team and got rid of this manager who actually thought stealing and bunting and all that kind of crap was a good thing and now i’ve got him again.what’s up with that?”
he was also thinking” it’s not fair those other teams do that small ball stuff that doesn’t work and then beat’s us. it’s just very disrespectful on their part to win with things that have been proven not to work.”
I knew he wouldn’t come through.
RS lose to Halladay,booya!!
RISP = Cano’s Kryptonite
will cano ever drive in a run with a man on 2nd. thats a goodd pitch is frustrating cano can’t complete in rbi situations
I wish doc was a free agent after the season
Wow watching this complete game by Halladay makes me dream about him like that in a Yankee uniform. You gotta admit he would make this team much beter!
Get Roy Halladay please.
If only Cano had believed there wasnt a RISP!
Still, that was a productive inning. Especially GREAT bounceback from Joba after the Thomas hr. Thats the stuff dreams are made of. Mine, anyway.
Whatta ya know??? Robbie CANNOT!!
96 ?
Good Joba
i REALLY hope the jays don’t trade halladay. it would be nice for him to stay with them for the long haul. must stink to be a jays fan and watch your team trade away your franchise player. it’s the equivalent of the yankees trading mariano.
SJ44
July 19th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Of all the people who post on here, I have never seen anybody so consistently clueless as you matt.
ty sj.
BONER
WTH was that Swish ?
no comment
EMBRASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSING now infield in
????
i’m a HUGE yankee fan from toronto
but of course i am always rooting for the jays as well
trading halladay would be very hard to do, but i think it is the best move for the organization in the long run
a trade to the dodgers, perhaps for with clayton kershaw as the centerpiece would be ideal
Swisher is a disaster.
You see, that’s what people don’t get who just bash people for making comments they don’t like.
You make up that everyone is a hypocrite because you can’t stand to ever consider any viewpoint that goes against what you think. In no way do I say Joba is pitching poorly today, because he’s not. But don’t even think about making things up like that to prove a false point.
I was the first one here saying the curveball that Morales hit out was the right pitch in his last start for the spot, but it was obvious to anyone watching the hitters’ swings on his fastball today that the slider was the WRONG pitch. The results DO NOT CHANGE THE FACT. Get over it.
And there’s your boy Nick Swisher making a horrible play, turning a single into a triple. He needs to be on the bench tomorrow, period.
“Matt July 19th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Just stupid. That’s what I mean.
Thomas had not even come close to catching up to his fastball the entire at bat, and what did he do? He threw him a slider!
You can’t make this stuff up, you really can’t. Have you ever seen this many obvious mistakes in pitching selection with Molina behind the plate? You need Posada’s bat, but there is no denying that he is terrible defensively. ”
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has anybody else seen anything so ridiculous? what a whiner.
you can’t keep throwing fastball after fastball. why? because hitters can catch up with a fastball if you do.
you HAVE to mix in offspeed pitches to keep hitters off balance.
does that mean it was a good slider? of course not.
but the idea that throwing a slider was undeniably horrible is almost as ridiculous as Matt thinking anybody takes him seriously.
nick swisher looks stupid
Well that was interesting. Thought we might get him on the relay throw.
anyone else still think swisher is a good right fielder?
haha, come on now Swish.
Though it did make me laugh. Here come the Swisher haters!
Swisher is such a clown in the OF. That should have been a single and nothing more.
how can Hinske be any worse in right field? I’m sick of Girardi playing favorites. Play the guys who give you the best chance to win.
I know I’ll take heat, but I was hoping swisher would get hurt there & have to come out……….
stumbling over 2nd and now that atrocious attempt.. hmm speechless!
That was very big of Nick to acknoweledge, with that way cool my bad chest tap, that the play was his fault.
How can’t that be a single with a two base error?
swisher, swisher, swisher
The East German judge only gave Swisher a 6.
ravi – funny b/c i’m a HUGE raptors fan in new york city…
That relay throw from Cano was a bullet at the knees. Almost had him. Bad play by the legendary Nick Swisher.
I give Swisher an 8.5..nice dismount…
The Yankees have waaaaay to many DH’s on this team.
That’s a single and two base error. What a joke.
don’t get me wrong, i can’t stand watching doc pitch for another team
god now Joba has to struggle to get out of this, thanks Swish.
at least Joba hit 96 there, lol
must be the 5th inning cause things are getting ugly!
26 years old…not even in the “prime” of his career wow
Nice job Joba, I applaud him coming up and in, don’t like him hitting a guy but it’s been a while since he’s pitched like this.
Swisher having some trouble staying on his feet. I think he got tied up when the ball came near his feet and he tried to dive to block it but instead fell into a roll type deal. Hopefully Joba can get the DP ball.
Unfortunately, Swisher is NOT in the last year of his contract…
How could I be second guessing all the time after the fact if I said the HR in his last start was on the RIGHT pitch selection? You look dumber and dumber each time you make stuff up. I even posted the same thing in this thread a few minutes ago, but that’s what happens when you act like blog police rather than a productive poster.
HAH!!
I actually hope Joba did that on purpose.
I think a lot more pitchers should just hit the “Foul tip Pests” like Polanco.
Ruins the pitch count.
Hopefully Nick will tweet about the tumble later tonight
1 more Jobber, you can do this
come on joba! fight!!! fight!!
I guess Miguel Cabrera is also a stat-padder.
“HAH!!
I actually hope Joba did that on purpose.”
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I don’t.
PA: open mouth, insert foot
I have said this many times, the Yankees have one of the worst defense OF in the ML…..
BTW….Halladay is worth the kings ransom
Good job getting Miggy!! Let’s go Joba, get out of this!
If Joba picks up Swish it will be a pivotal moment in the season for him because it’s been his biggest downfall this year – not being able to pick up his teammates when they screw up.
Big at bat for Joba here. Already got the 2nd out with the runner at 3rd, has to keep his focus now and make sure he gets the last out.
In this start and last Joba’s curve pwns Miguel Cabrera, MVP caliber season and all.
Thames has been killing the ball lately.
big AB here
According to YES, Joba has a 93 mph slider, along with Hughes’ 96 mph curveball and Sabathia’s 97 mph changeup.
i do have to say that swisher has been terrible in the of.
i don’t know what the answer is.
it would be nice to take advantage of the beatdown halladay gave the rs & swish didn’t help us on that play.
Come on Joba pick up your defense. Let’s end this.
Great fastball, blew it right by Thames.
“Hopefully Nick will tweet about the tumble later tonight”
it actually looked like he was tweeting during the play. Eat your heart out Ocho Cinco.
PUT HIM AWAY, SNAGGLETOOTH!!!!
RS July 19th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
According to YES, Joba has a 93 mph slider, along with Hughes’ 96 mph curveball and Sabathia’s 97 mph changeup.
Don’t trade the kids
put him away joba
Remember the Joba flop? Good times.
I would love to see a video montage of all of swisher’s baserunning & fielding flubs this year…I think that would be funny to watch..
OF defense is as bad as it gets
Swisher is what he is… a decent hitter with power and patience and lousy basrerunner and a worse outfielder.
If that’s a triple my rear end is a b-flat saxophone. For Kay and company to not get it is just embrassing. He said if it’s a two-base error it should be an error all the way. What a marooon.
That was a big out there Joba! Best five innings he’s thrown in quite a while.
Fired up!!
There’s the fist pump!
Fist Pump!
holy crap he got out of it.
wow – joba pumped up…
YEAH BABY!
the good Joba is back!
97 BABY!!! THAT IS WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE!
So, are those Posada haters going to give him any congrats? I mean, he did call the pitches that got Joba out of the inning…
YEA JOBA..PUMP THAT FIST!
that was some enthusiastic fist pumping joba
AND A JOBA PUMP UP! Love it!!!!!
YES!!!
God I miss that guy!!
Uh oh Diet Coke will get on Jobber tomorrow.
Nice fist pump!
he might make it to the 7th
nice pitch.
bush league response tho
Mark my words: This will be the turning point in the season for Joba. That was a huge sign of maturity.
Give us 6 innings maybe 7
On balance, you’re enjoying this game, Matt?
97 + fist pump…HELL YEAH !
There’s the Joba celebration. Good battle to get out of that inning unscathed.
Yowzah
This is a very entertaining spirited Yankee team.
A joy to watch, including Swisher.
where this joba been hiding. he looks like the starter he was last year
welcome back Jobber…
if we can get this for the remainder of the season, it’s bad news for the rest of the league.
nice to see joba pitching well.
wonder how much the trade talks,the news,comments about him is factoring into it or how well hughes is pitching but it is great to see.
go joba.
if Halladay gets traded, I pray it is to the Phillies. Think about how much this move helps us out.
He is out of the American League. Not only that, but he is in the NL East, which we just faced in interleague play, so we probably won’t face Halladay for at least 2-3 more years. Not only that, but he is on the rival team of the Mets, so we get to see him dominate that weak Mets lineup a few times too.
Win-win if he’s traded to Philly, but any American League team not named the Yankees and it’s bad. Even staying on Toronto is better than him going to someone like Texas or Anaheim.
Bush league? Let Joba be Joba.
what horrible pitch selection by Posada in those last 2 AB
pathetic
The “good” Joba is back… let’s hope he stays… he finally established his fastball and worked off of it… Maybe this will propel him to a good second half.
Swisher is not a good RF – he’s just not. At this point, I would rather see Hinske…..
GOOD job by Joba – that was one heck of a fist pump,lol
Now playing right field…………Nadia Swisher
that is the Joba we expect to see.
if he pitches like this we have a star… 97 with oomph.
1 bad pitch the hanger to thomas.. postgame just say you hung the damn pitch and no tipping the cap nonsense.
arods hr was on a good pitch, his #’s do not tell how good he has been so far this year.. he has been good….
halladay was sick today, as the game went later he just dominated in less the n2.5 hrs…sick……….
Good Joba only 17 pitches with 2 on.He’s gonna make 6 innings,will he make 7? This is great if he’s turnaround!
Swisher should do something to make up for that play.
Big time pitch from Joba there!
That was also a great pitch selection too, because you could see that Thames was way late on the fastball even in a 2-1 count earlier there. Joba would usually throw a slider in that count, but if you did that it would have fed right into Thames’ approach. They took advantage of his aggressiveness, I like it.
You can see Joba’s confidence coming back on the mound too. With his confidence comes less tentativeness and better mechanics, improving his velocity. His demeanor is better and that fist pump said it all- he’s really into it today.
Let’s go Swish, give us something here. Make up for that SC blooper play.
come on Swish redeem yourself…..
Isn’t that always the case?
Someone makes a bone head play in the field – and they lead off the next inning!
Joba needs to ignore the critics and do what feels natural. If he wants to fist pump after every big out then fist pump. I’m so sick of Yankee haters trying to take him off his game by calling his antics bush-league. It’s obviously a natural emotional response and nothing premeditated so I suggest he continue. There’s a difference in sports between an emotional release and a coordinated show. The make that distinction in football during touchdown celebrations and baseball players should have the same leeway.
While I don’t like that Swish struck out, Edwin Jackson has sick stuff. That was a nasty pitch.
Or not…
Welcome back Jobber?
Let’s get some more runs now
I’m not sure which is worst Damon or Swisher in the field.
Still waiting of some stathead to tell me how Nick’s zone rating really makes him an unawarded Gold Glove defender.
The guy just isn’t a good player. Great bench player, great self promoter but, a below average player.
Unfortunately, they have nobody else to play out there regularly so, you have to live with the miscues.
“Swisher is not a good RF – he’s just not. At this point, I would rather see Hinske…..”
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Hinske isn’t an upgrade.
I like Eric but the Yankees already had 4 OF.
I think Hinske’s real value is if he can help out on the IF positions (giving Alex rest).
I don’t think he can… so I’d have rather the Yanks signed a more versatile utility guy (though I realize getting Hinske was very low risk).
Nick Whiffer………Sultan of Squat………
Swish and Melky are horrible atm
Anyone gonna watch the Moose Yankeeography?
That was an absolutely fantastic inning by Joba.
That is exactly the kind of experience a young pitcher grows from.
That entire inning was about Joba trying to pick up the ballerina in RF after that horrific blunder.
He hit Polanco but that was just a young pitcher over throwing in a big spot because he was trying to induce a strikeout with a man on 3rd. Joba was going for the kill there and doing it with his fastball.
He easily could have folded or gotten super tentative and nibbled – Miguel Cabrera is up with 1st and 3rd one out.
Instead he throws Cabrera a beautiful first pitch curve on the outside corner. And then completely overpowers him with an 93 mph fastball perfectly located on the inside part of the plate.
And he stayed aggressive with Thames. 3-2 count he blows him away with a high fastball hitting 95.
That was the best inning he’s had in a while.
this offense is embarssing taking pitches
69 pitches
That was a horrible attempt at offense there in the 5th.
over/under Jobber makes it to the 7th ?
IMO he could have gone 9 if not for Swish’s Manny like cartwheel
I’ve noticed on the days when Joba has his fastball in the high 90s it always happens when he has more rest. If you remember when he got hit by the line drive and had to leave after 2/3 of an inning the next start he was throwing mid to high 90s, but after that the velocity dropped again. Now this start is after the all-star break so he also got more rest. So perhaps fatigue is the issue with Joba.
Was Kay being sarcastic? One of the greatest Yankees of all time – Bobby Richardson??!? LOL!
swisher swung like th ejackson pitch was 100 mph it was about 83.
nice b’s by melky and deek, way to really work his pitch count..that was some terrible ab’s…
get into the detroit pen, clowns………………….
Way to work the count in that inning.
Well that was fast. At least Joba is pumped up for the 6th.
“you can’t keep throwing fastball after fastball.”
actually a pitcher could if he could locate it .
a hitter can look in or out or up or down, but not everywhere at the same time.
it’s what john farrel of the red sox preaches.
the problem is with a pitcher who throws nothing but fastballs and can’t locate them.
some of them are going to find a hitter’s happy zone.
Joba barely had time to take a whizz between innings there..
Man only 7 pitches and the Yankees go 123,sigh!
I’m waiting for the Swisher Aprilography.
Paul,
very interesting observation
Suck on that CLETE
Joba’s fired up.
Jeter swings at the 1st pitch for the 2nd consecutive at bat. And that pitch would have hit him he he had taken it.
Where is the patience? Jackson is prone to wildness, but you have to give him a chance to get wild.
*Joba is
““you can’t keep throwing fastball after fastball.”
actually a pitcher could if he could locate it .”
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true, but very few can do that. there aren’t many Roy Oswalts out there.
as seen in the Thames AB, his low sliders set up those fastballs.
I agree that you work off your fastball and not vice versa, but the strike2 fastball to Thames was a very hittable pitch…. had he not just throw 2 sliders down and away.
The Yanks really need to figure out how to get a RF that can play. Right now they have two decent OF one so-so OF, two lousy OF and a DH who can’t play out there at all.
Swisher for Austin Kearns?
You can see how it’s all about the confidence with Joba. Now that his confidence is coming back, his velocity is back, his location is better, and he is attacking the hitters. It’s all mental with him, it really is.
BD, I’m not saying Hinkse is any great shakes, but he has hit the ball well since joining the club and he can not be any worse than Swisher in RF. If the Yankees didn’t have more pressing issues (like SP and the pen), I would suggest getting a new RF – but that’s not happening. The team has some pretty big holes that I don’t know how they are going to hold up over the course of the season and maybe into the playoffs. The thing is, Cash seems obsessed with filling needs internally – and that can’t always be done. I know Nick is a favorite as well, but just like teachers shouldn’t play favorites, either should GMs or managers. Results are results and Swisher has been pretty mediocre over a long stretch.
I’m sort of all over the place, but I guess I’m saying is that I would be extremely disappointed in Cashman if didn’t do anything to improve the team because his plan for building mostly through youth/farm system got in the way.
BD, I’m not saying Hinkse is any great shakes, but he has hit the ball well since joining the club and he can not be any worse than Swisher in RF. If the Yankees didn’t have more pressing issues (like SP and the pen), I would suggest getting a new RF – but that’s not happening. The team has some pretty big holes that I don’t know how they are going to hold up over the course of the season and maybe into the playoffs. The thing is, Cash seems obsessed with filling needs internally – and that can’t always be done. I know Nick is a favorite as well, but just like teachers shouldn’t play favorites, either should GMs or managers. Results are results and Swisher has been pretty mediocre over a long stretch.
I’m sort of all over the place, but I guess I’m saying is that I would be extremely disappointed in Cashman if didn’t do anything to improve the team because his plan for building mostly through youth/farm system got in the way.
“at least Joba hit 96 there, lol”
it said 96 on a clear breaking pitch.
no way that yes gun is right.
SJ44
would it be stupid to play hinske a little more or gardner in cf/melky in rf???
Joba is HOT HOT HOT! What happened?!?
“I’ve noticed on the days when Joba has his fastball in the high 90s it always happens when he has more rest. If you remember when he got hit by the line drive and had to leave after 2/3 of an inning the next start he was throwing mid to high 90s, but after that the velocity dropped again. Now this start is after the all-star break so he also got more rest. So perhaps fatigue is the issue with Joba.”
That’s a great point and something that I have recently noticed as well. I think it has to be addressed among the coaching staff.
When he was coming out of the bullpen and only pitching 1-2 innings a game his velocity was always up. It might have been because of that 1-2 innings plus the rest. If that is the case, then the Joba Debate has been answered.
However, until it’s proven, I still believe he’s a starting pitcher.
Over the past 2-3 innings look at how often Joba has used his fastball in 2 strike counts rather than throwing that slider.
I think that’s part of why Thames swung at that high fastball – he was looking slider.
He looks phenomenal right now.
joba…i am impressed
Damn, where have you been Jobber.
Now that you have him really starting to go out there trying to catch up to the heat, you drop the hook on him. Much better pitch sequences, but it all is set up by throwing strikes on a consistent basis. Before, the hitters would be behind in the count but not respect Joba’s ability to pound the zone after, and they would spit on a lot of pitches.
Can we stop referring to Alex and the HR list. He was augmented for several years.
GJ Joba!
The Yanks really need to figure out how to get a RF that can play. Right now they have two decent OF one so-so OF, two lousy OF and a DH who can’t play out there at all.
Swisher for Austin Kearns?
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go get Halladay and Rios
Uno, dos, TRES!
That FB to Cabrera was 93? See – you don’t have to throw 98 to overpower a hitter. People are obsessed with velocity – I’ve seen way too many flamethrowers who failed at the big league level because they didn’t know how to, you know, actually pitch.
CB
what is joba doing better in this game & why is it so hard for him to repeat?
Is this a strategy for Joba?
To suddenly flip a switch and turn it on?
98 pitches for Jobber
Joba looks completely different now! Did we switch catchers or something?
Aprilography HAH
Seriously though, Swisher looked like Pujols those first couple weeks.
Gotta let Chamberlain come out in the 7th inning and got batter to batter, at the very least.
It’s Old Timer’s Day and the old tyme Joba has come out to play.
11 pitches,ladies and gents ,he’s going 7 innings,sweeeeet,bullpen happy!
hornblower July 19th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Can we stop referring to Alex and the HR list. He was augmented for several years.
But Manny gets a pass? Why don’t we stop referring to Pettitte as one of the greatest Yankee pitchers ever?
what about this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pud_Galvin
Like Pettitte did recently, maybe this is Joba “conquering New YS” as well. Part of his nibbling approach at home has to be the fear of the longball, and now he’s starting to use his fastball again and trust his stuff.
“go get Halladay and Rios”
For the last time NO.
““you can’t keep throwing fastball after fastball.”
actually a pitcher could if he could locate it .
a hitter can look in or out or up or down, but not everywhere at the same time.”
Phil Hughes right now is succeeding exactly that way.
It’s one fastball after another. The hitters know what’s coming.
And they still get overpowered because of the amount of late life on Hughes’ fastball and his terrific location. Hitters don’t know where the pitch will be.
“BD, I’m not saying Hinkse is any great shakes, but he has hit the ball well since joining the club and he can not be any worse than Swisher in RF.”
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Betsy,
I do agree Hinske should get some chances when the Yanks are facing a righty.
I don’t expect him to be great, but it makes sense to reward him while he’s playing well.
Swisher certainly isn’t earning regular playing time.
Not to mention… Swisher has gotten playing time whether he’s played well or not. Maybe he needs to recognize that if he doesn’t play well, he’ll lose PT.
When he throws hard he has good command. When he’s low nineties he struggles with command.
Wow. That’s some rope-a-dope. Throw sliders out of the zone the first half, so you can trick them in the second half.
Good to see Joba pitching well. Hopefully the Yankees can give him some run support.
Well I think Joba took himself off the table with this performance so if the Yanks are dealing they are using prime prospects. Right now I think Rios might help more and cost less than Halladay.
I suggested Swisher for Kearns because Washington is looking to move the guy. He’s not great, but a Kearns/Hinske platoon has to be much better than the .550 OPS we’ve been getting from Swish.
I have been very much on the fence, but I’ve made up my mind now: I do NOT want to trade Joba for Tom Watson.
Even if the Yankees lose, the best news from today is Joba. Now, I would want to see him do it (well, not always this well – that’s not fair. I’m referring more to the not nibbling, etc…) for more than one start before I’m convinced that “he’s back”………and I still think the Yankees need another SP (at least). However, having a good/solid Joba would be huge……….Joba and Phil in the rotation, anchoring it for years to come? Sweet……
I’m not going to kill the Yankees offense for not hitting Jackson. The guy is very good – what are you going to do?
CB,
yes, but how many pitchers can do that?
(especially starting pitchers)
the idea that a hitter cannot catch up to a fastball means that you can keep throwing them over and over seems ‘off’ to me. you still need to keep hitters off balance, in general, because after a few of them they will get the timing down.
I wish Gardner would try drag bunting once a game.
Isn’t the expression that the best pitch in baseball is a well-placed FB? I can only speak to Phil, but the way he’s hitting his corners, a hitter has no idea where that FB is going to be……You can’t keep throwing to the same spot as hitters are not stupid – but that’s why pitching is described as an art form and why it’s not a good thing to be simply a thrower.
“I wish Gardner would try drag bunting once a game.”
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I think he did in his last AB on the first pitch (but fouled it)
TEX!!!!
MARKY BABY!!!!!!
Tex!!!
TEXXXXYYYY
he murdered that ball
TEX TEX TEX!!!!!!!!!!
That was absolutely crushed!!! Tex I love you!!
I’m glad the ump blew the call on the 3-0 pitch to TEX LOL!
Than god the Ump called ball four a strike!
“what is joba doing better in this game & why is it so hard for him to repeat?”
bru,
I really have no idea.
It seems like something completely changed after that home run he allowed.
This year Joba, amongst other things, has looked very tentative to me.
Like he’s holding back. He’s generating less momentum to the plate. You can see it in his delivery. He’s much more active – especially in his lower body – on those pitches when he’s 95+.
I think there’s a lot going on with him. He’s probably not in good shape. But his conditioning isn’t going to change within a game.
His mechanics really have been a mess – he just doesn’t repeat his delivery well this year.
But this game, to me, he looks like he’s decided to stop being so cautious and start generating momentum back to the plate with the intention to throw hard.
Teix just eats fastballs..EATS THEM
T&A!!!
TEXXXXXXXXXX
Thank you Ump for not calling that low 4th pitch a ball.
I know hes happy he didn’t walk
Tex message, lol.
look, a tex message
Tex!!!!
I like how the RF guy didn’t even move. LOL!
Alright, is Hughes available today?
Why can’t this team play small ball LOL
do you think Joba get to start the 7th?
how short is his leash?
Alex gj
Close to back-2-back. I can’t believe people complain about A-Rod. He works harder than anyone on the team.
Joba looks locked in
BD,
I wasn’t trying to suggest that throwing fastball after fastball is a recipe for success.
There would be very few pitchers who could succeed with that strategy. It takes extreme command to do so.
I was just saying that Hughes – right now – is succeeding that way.
Hughes really does have tremendous command.
“Alright, is Hughes available today?”
Yes.
Did I mention how much I love the powerhouse that is Tex/Arod.
Maybe Joba is pitching better today because he knows Goose is in the building and he didn’t want to hear his Joba to the bullpen BS…lol
Isn’t it amazing how Joba is sitting all by himself on the bench?
None of his teammates are sitting by him or talking to him.
They must be disgusted with his performance today.
minny may be the M&M boys, but we got T&A
Do we want Jobber to have a long rest right now ? I don’t want him forgetting how to throw hard and locating all the sudden.
Sad if not for the cartwheel in RF he may have gone 9 today.
“They must be disgusted with his performance today.”
LOL! I’m sure they are.
MTA
T&A
A&T
ATM
They need a nickname.
Swisher should be taken out for defensive purposes after the FIRST inning…..
curious to see mitre on tues.
I would put Joba’s pitch count somewhat aside this game. I would let him go 115-120 pitches if he feels strong.
These are the kinds of games he needs to learn from and build on.
He last pitched a while ago. His last outing was very short.
If he’s going to get better it’s these games he needs to build on.
“Close to back-2-back. I can’t believe people complain about A-Rod. He works harder than anyone on the team.”
Really just gotta ignore those posters. You don’t appreciate A-Rod until you realize how bad the team is without him.
Edwin Jackson is the poster child for being patient with a pitcher with plus stuff…
Both the Dodgers and Rays gave up on him and he’s an All Star this year.
Watching this game, can anyone tell me Jackson has better stuff than either Joba or Hughes? So just be patient with these guys, they can be stars in the not so distant future.
Pete,
Tex and Arod need a nickname, get on it!
I like MTA brandon. or A&T
“Hughes really does have tremendous command”.
i believe he had a career whip of well under one in the minors.
excellant controll.
some of the best controll in minor league history if i remember correctly.
Guidry. I love this man.
Wish I could hang with him for a little while.
“Close to back-2-back. I can’t believe people complain about A-Rod. He works harder than anyone on the team.”
Thank you! The team rises and falls on his shoulders. True fans realize this.
Its really only the bandwagon fans that boo him because they believe it is the “cool” thing to do.
Why did A-Rod freeze with 2 outs?
Forget Joba, do we want Jorge running the bases right now when he’s calling such a good game? Tired legs might lead to tired pitch selection.
contoll & or command
LOL CANO
its freaking unbelievable that he can not hit with runners in scoring position
Oh well. Would have been nice to get a couple more runs there.
T&A gets my vote…
Let Joba go batter to batter. If he makes it through the 7th that is a really nice quality start. Taking into account the Swisher acrobatics that extended the 5th inning.
With Cano coming up, if I’m coaching third I’m sending Arod NO MATTER WHAT………….That’s our only chance of scoring..
Cano,Cano,one lazy at batter.
Shortstop was in a perfect position there. A step more up the middle and that’s a 1 or 2 run single.
““Hughes really does have tremendous command”.
i believe he had a career whip of well under one in the minors.
excellant controll.”
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that’s why his poor command for most of his first several seasons with the Yankees was puzzling.
Learning to pitch is one thing, but generally great command still translates well from AAA to the majors.
It was only a matter of time…
bad luck there arod on 2nd we score, ball in a different spot were up 2. cano can’t catch a break
Cano is making a case for being the worst >.300 hitter ever.
“Edwin Jackson is the poster child for being patient with a pitcher with plus stuff…”
Very, very true.
Ciff Lee last year.
This year think about what Jackson and even more so – Greinke – have done.
Tampa Bay has Jackson and the the AL East would have been difficult to imagine. With Kazmir and Sonnastine pitching so poorly and their pen so weak Tampa desperately could have used Jackson.
give Cano a break on that one.
he didn’t kill the ball but it wasn’t his worst AB. just hit it in the wrong spot.
Cano=Rally Killer
It’s prolonging the inevitable but it’s nice to see him in the 7th
CB I’d let Jobber go 115 to 120, if only to build hat stamina and let his mind now I can go from 1st to the 8th or 9th… but you know they won’t.
BTEW my favorite nickname would be the MTA connection.
Joba’s at 101 pitches. I doubt they’ll let him finish the inning.
Nasty, nasty slider.
“some of the best controll in minor league history if i remember correctly.”
A lot more than control…
http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....ip-hughes/
Joba looks so confident and he is moving so quickly. This is a chance to set a new tone for himself for the rest of the season.
did kashmir get hurt yesterday???
thought i heard something.
““Edwin Jackson is the poster child for being patient with a pitcher with plus stuff…””
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in Jackson’s case, VERY patient.
he was really rushed to the majors. he is only 25 yet but this is his (technically) SEVENTH season.
Apparently, they didn’t rush Kershaw.
Yankees pitching has really stepped up this weekend against some tough Detroit pitchers and given us a chance to win. Such a difference from the teams of the past few years.
Don’t wanna jinx him but happy Joba is looking more like his old self, the good version. Pitching into the 7th…that’s improvement.
>did kashmir get hurt yesterday???
forearm cramp
WTH!?! What is Joba on?!?!?
here comes GI Joe’s hook.
Perhaps the though of getting shipped out of town has scared some sense of urgency into Chamberlain. Maybe he’s realizing that people are losing patience with him.
“Apparently, they didn’t rush Kershaw.”
Eh, he is walking some 5 per 9 innings. While he is pitching great of late, you gotta figure a team like the Red Sox or Yankees would really wear him down.
just read it.
cramps in kashmirs forearm.
saying it was dehydration & is fine.
if they lost him they are in trouble.
You’re kidding me…
Boo on Girardi, but Joba looked great in the end. Hopefully a turning point.
Girardi=D U M B
Way to bounce back Joba
do not agree with taking him out AT ALL
for crying out loud, wft are you criticizing Cano for today? He hit the ball hard, it was caught, get over it. He hit the ball hard earlier in the game and Polanco turned it into a great double play, that’s baseball.
why let joba go, is his game to win or lose
Perhaps the ***thought*** of getting shipped
Round of applause for Jobber!
Well done today
if this is the Joba that the Yankees are going to get the rest of the season,
it’s almost as good as getting Halladay (except Joba is 10 years younger and a wee bit cheaper)
nice work Joba… keep it up!
Geez, Cano hit that decently – not the time to get on him.
BD, Phil had injuries to his legs (bad ones, to boot) that robbed him of his command (it took him awhile to trust his legs again)………..then he had the rib injury. The rib injury just completely threw him out of whack……We discussed this last night, but Phil apparently (I can’t tell) went back to his old (2006) mechanics – and that has made a difference as well (something about a 3/4 arm slot and not being over the top as much – also the way he drives the ball. I don’t know – it’s confusing to me, but if anyone is interested, I will post a link to a video from 2006).
Why doesn’t Girardi ever let Joba finish the inning when he’s doing well?
OVERMANAGING
BP needs work…Joba was great 6.2 innings.
I guess Girardi was sick & tired of watching Tigers strike out!!!
nice job by joba.
now build on it.
something we all can look forward to.let the critics talk now.
should take the era & whip down a lot.
Dimaggio loses the poll
may be the first 5-tool player in the history of MLB. Certainly, the first in the NYY franchise. Yet always takes a backseat to Mantle and others
Coke better not give up a dinger here.
Kazmir has been horrible this year. Not quite Wang bad … but bad.
The idea that they are going to chalk up forearm tightness/ cramping to dehydration in a guy with so many elbow problems and so many injuries seems like a stretch.
>Maybe he’s realizing that people are losing patience with him.
Whatever it is, at least we don’t have to hear meteorology in the post-game.
So I just came in for Teixeira’s HR.
Our boy Joba did good?
Nice to see cheers, nicer to see the #7 for innings.
Granderson has looked terrible against lefties this year – smart time to take Joba out. Coke needs to do his job.
Nice job Joba!
““Apparently, they didn’t rush Kershaw.”
Eh, he is walking some 5 per 9 innings. While he is pitching great of late, you gotta figure a team like the Red Sox or Yankees would really wear him down.”
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true, but he’s showing steady improvement. his WHIP is 1.22 for the season and 0.95 over the past month.
ok so that worked out well for the Yanks.
Girardi laughs at the lohud blog
i love hearing giant steps on the house organ
LOL, that was a brilliant move Joe G!
one pitch one out for the dangerous Granderson.
BD, he doesn’t have to be this good for the rest of the season and I wouldn’t expect him to be (he’s still a kid and learning). The important thing is that he not be what we saw for the last month or whatever……….The Yankees still need another pitcher or two. I really don’t think we can win sending out Mitre (who knows if he can even give us one decent outing) and Pettitte, along with a questionable Joba
Doreen
IMO, Joba looked fantastic.
He pretty much addressed every criticism that anybody could have had over the first half of the season.
Now he just needs to keep it up.
don’t be results oriented… it was still a lame move… he brings people in just for the sake of doing it or if they need work or w/e…
Too bad we only see this Joba like 1 out of every 6-7 starts. In those starts even when he doesn’t have his great stuff he needs to repeat in his brain attack, attack, attack. He will learn that he doesn’t have to throw 97 as long as he pitches and throws the ball in good spots. Since he doesn’t have a lot of major/minor innings it just depends on how much longer it takes him to learn how to pitch instead of just throwing.
Clap clap to Joba 6.2 innings 1 run.
Do you think he was tired of being boooed,and doesn’t want to live in Canada!
“Perhaps the though of getting shipped out of town has scared some sense of urgency into Chamberlain. Maybe he’s realizing that people are losing patience with him”
Certainly can’t hurt.
He was two pitchers today – before that home run allowed and after.
But afterwards he was tremendous.
The idea of trading this kid is hard to get over.
I seriously doubt Phil is available today – Joe said they were going to be careful with him after his 2 inning outing on Friday. If he can’t go, I’d go with Aceves…….but the real question is whether Mo can go…..
KO July 19th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
don’t be results oriented… it was still a lame move… he brings people in just for the sake of doing it or if they need work or w/e
why not ever take him out then or w/e
Lefty specialists are to get lefties. Joba was over 100 pitches already and he has shown the propensity to let things get outta hand. In the end it worked for the Yanks.
Enjoy it.
Boston Dave 2.0
July 19th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
if this is the Joba that the Yankees are going to get the rest of the season,
it’s almost as good as getting Halladay (except Joba is 10 years younger and a wee bit cheaper)
nice work Joba… keep it up!
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great point.
it is tough to decide what prospects to keep or trade.
the yankees have done ok in not trading prospects that turn into great players.
ther always will be some but it happens.
edwin jackson,kashmir are trades that hurt you.
trading joba,montero,etc together in a package while increasing payroll is something you don’t wan’t to do unless you have to.
rays losing 3-2
sox got smacked.
joba pitched great.
nice day for us yankee fans.
Boston Dave -
Thanks! Can’t wait to watch the “encore.”
The laptop by the pool experiment was a failure.
I love OTD.
After the HR he looked like a different pitcher.
Betsy
Phil said he would be ready today
i would let hughes pitch the 8th and 9th…give mo a day off…
“BD, he doesn’t have to be this good for the rest of the season and I wouldn’t expect him to be”
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well of course he doesn’t “have” to be, but this is how good he “can” be.
Even the best pitchers have off days.
I agree the Yanks could use another starter, but most teams could. I still think the Yanks have enough to win.
That said, I fully expect Cashman to explore adding a 4th starter type innings eater to the rotation if the price is right.
Phil is warming
Ouch. It got Swisher on his dismount arm.
haha Doreen,
my friends are all at the pool right now and I keep debating whether or not to bring my laptop with me.
the wifi just isn’t as strong out there as it is inside.
I was really hoping the Yanks would tack on some insurance runs so I could go out sooner
I am shocked that Hughes is up in the bullpen. Especially with the way that they baby these guys and after throwing 40 pitches only 2 days ago.
Matt
July 19th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Yankees pitching has really stepped up this weekend against some tough Detroit pitchers and given us a chance to win. Such a difference from the teams of the past few years.
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bingo.
no one can argue with you there.
KC all set up to blow yet another late inning lead……
Again, I want to see Joba be steadier in his next few outings; after the Cleveland game, he got worse and worse. If Joba can hold things down (not saying he has to pitch great, but just reasonably decently), then I will be very happy. Still, today – really a great job by Joba; I hope he takes this experience and learns from it
No way the Yankees are trading Joba or Phil.
“Our boy Joba did good?”
Doreen,
He threw a lot of pitches in the first – around 23 I think.
But after that he settled in some. He hung a slider that got hit for a homer.
And after that he just completely turned it on.
He was absolutely dominant afterwards. Looked like the Joba pitching against Beckett in Boston last year.
The highlight was the 5th. Granderson hit a ball to RF and Swisher literally tumbled over the ball and turned what should have been a single into a “triple.”
Joba really bore down and overpowered the tigers – Migueal Cabrera and Thames to get out of the inning without a run scoring.
He tremendous.
“i would let hughes pitch the 8th and 9th…give mo a day off…”
You do that and there will be a certain poster saying they are stretching him out
Who won the poll?
Uhh.. isin’t that what Cokey is for? To get the tough lefty?
Detroit doesn’t have any other big time lefties in the lineup, that was the right spot for him.
“great point.
it is tough to decide what prospects to keep or trade.”
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just as I wasn’t ready to personally give up on Joba (as many started to), I’m not going to say the “old Joba” is back.
but it’s games like this one that should remind us that young guys like Joba and Phil, who have the stuff, require a little patience.
this is certainly a great sign. a great point was made earlier that Joba seems to have his best games after prolonged rest.
Perhaps Joba’s next start will be the most important…
I would have liked to have given Hughes an extra day too but the game is close. Here’s where Bruney needs to start to get it together.
I love how HOPE week is 4 days.
first, you don’t take out a pitcher in a one run game because someone else ‘needs work’. Girardi made the change because he wanted Coke to face Grandison, who hit a ball really hard off Joba the previous at bat.
second, Mo will be available today, he hasn’t worked that hard the past two games.
third, Joba pitched really well today, there is no reason he can’t do this in most of his starts, and that is the reason you don’t waste him in the bullpen.
What will Gardenhoser do ?
KC MUST use Soria for 2 innings.
KC had 1-run leads in the 8th inning each of the last 2 nights, blew them both and lost both games.
Same situation today… 1 run lead. Do not play around.
Wow, I’m surprised Phil is up………I wouldn’t necessarily due it no matter what Phil said. 40 pitches is alot……
So does Joba have maturity, mental toughness, pitching IQ, humbleness, and is he coachable today?
CB
fantastic article.
i have followed him since the day we got him.
it is about time our farm system is being recognized.
long time coming.
very nice job by cash & others.
That was a great at bat by Gardner.
Jackson is clearly tiring. Garnder stayed patient even with 2 strikes.
That was key because Gardner’s job there was to get Tex to the plate.
This is what happens when you have 4 guys in your pen that you can’t use in big spots— Bruney, Tomko, Melancon, and Robertson.
You are forced to wear out the same guys. It really exposes you when you play a ton of close games in a row.
anyone notice that Gardner gets tougher in big late inning at bats? That’s a really good sign, makes me think he might pull a Lemke in the postseason.
Risky by Leyland.
Need insurance runs to put this game on ice.
I feel bad for the Royals. To have Farnsworth and Cruz on one team has to be tough. They will find a way to blow that game doesn’t worry…
Why not use Hughes today? That’s what your bullpen is for.
Betsy
July 19th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Wow, I’m surprised Phil is up………I wouldn’t necessarily due it no matter what Phil said. 40 pitches is alot……
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Betsy, I pitched in college and 40 pitches isn’t all that much. Besides, starters throw side sessions in between starts after throwing 100+ pitches, it isn’t like they don’t do anything in between starts. Girardi and Eiland have 30 years of MLB playing experience between them and throw in Tony Pena’s 20 year of catching experience and there is a pretty good base of knowledge sitting in the dugout.
CB -
That’s very encouraging. That’s what we’re looking for, right? Improvements? Signs that it’s there, just has to be tapped?
Okay. Now, he can move forward. Perhaps the all-star break, for Joba, was a chance to say, okay, we start from now.
Or perhaps he just had a great day!
If it were the bottom of the order, then Coke would probably stay in.
Can’t mess around with Polonco, Cabrera, Thames… that is the game right there, especially in this stadium.
Tiger leader doesn’t want to go to a Lyon. It’s a jungle out there.
Great pitching match up today.
You guys complained that Girardi didn’t use Hughes enough right?
And you wanted him to be used like the 96 Mariano?
Well, this is how the 96 Mariano was used.
MG, good points, lol……but I also agree with Zach in that the Yankees don’t have a lot of trustworthy arms in the pen (Mo, Phil, Ace……Coke has been very good,also)
hopefully joba can do something that strengthens his stamina & i am not talking about a little pill.
bru,
That analysis of hughes as a minor leaguer is just amazing. Put in that context his level of performance is kind of mind boggling.
The franchise has real talent at all levels.
They are on the cusp of putting together a behemoth.
Come on bullpen, need the sweep with Boston already taken care of by Halladay.
Youuuuuuse
COL 88 if they do that he might never leave the BP
As long as Phil is healthy and it doesn’t hurt his arm, I’m fine with it – the health of his arm is what I’m concerned about, that’s all.
Stop babying Hughes. Let the Texas college coach manage the team.
Hughes is good for 13 innings or 175 pitches. Whichever comes first.
YUUUUZZZZEE
Hughes in the 8th inning has his hands full with Polano, Cabrera and Thames. Not going to be easy.
Wow, Hughes already. This is certainly different than the Joba rules.
“You guys complained that Girardi didn’t use Hughes enough right?”
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yep
this place just wouldn’t be the same if nobody was complaining.
Let’s go Hughes!!!
CB, which article on Phil are you referring to? Thanks!
come on phil 2 more miguel scares me
What I do worry about, since there are pieces in that pen that are avoided, is overexposure to the same team within a series. Seeing Phil twice and Mariano 3 times. Scares me a little.
I wish they had gotten a couple of insurance runs. I hope they get a couple in the bottom of this inning.
Maybe they should stay away from the curveball. His last 2 games he has hung them…
Hughes will give up a run sometime out of the bullpen, it is inevitable, but he’s throwing the ball really well today.
Throw the “Coder” phil
“CB, which article on Phil are you referring to? Thanks!”
Betsy,
Have you seriously never read that Hardball Times article titled the Rise of Phil Hughes?
You have to read it ASAP. You are going to lose it.
It basically compared Hughes’ minor league performance to some of the greatest pitchers of all time.
It’s a must read – especially for you.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....ip-hughes/
Phil-thy Hughes
Doreen, every team has pitchers that don’t pitch late in close games, including the Sox.
The Tigers have seen Mo so many times over the years it doesn’t matter, they still have to hit it. And Hughes is throwing so well it almost doesn’t matter how many times they see him.
Phil says screw the curveball. I just need a fastball to get this guy out.
yes gun shows every pitch between 94-98 mph.
Hughes be careful the HOF is up…
this is the worst gun ever.
Where was that pitch, ump?
Phil “The Pill” Hughes
If this game goes Joba – Coke – Hughes – Mariano…
Every pitcher the yankees will have used was developed through the minor league system.
And that pitch missed where?
CB
i agree.
2 years ago at work i turned a bunch of co workers onto this blog & our minor league system about how we are rebuilding it.
i said give it time.
in a few years you will see.
i bumped into an old worker who became a top manager where i work & he said man am i addicted to the blog & our minor leaguers.
\he said i love gardner & asked me if i ever heard of jesus montero.
i laughed.
my other boss at the same place said he can’t get his sons off of the blog so he can use the computer to go on the same blog.
funny stuff.
“Doreen, every team has pitchers that don’t pitch late in close games, including the Sox.”
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I agree, though the Sox do have a slight edge in that department (relax, I’m not saying the Sox pen is better, just that they have more arms they trust)
Papelbon, Ramirez, Bard, Masterson, Okajima, Delcarmen
It does help that they can lean on any of those guys.
Again, don’t get me wrong – I’ll take Rivera, Hughes, Coke, Aceves any day… but the Sox have less “risky” arms.
PHIL!!!
Hughes stepped all over that Clete.
HUGHES
YUUUUUUUUUSSSSSE !!
dang, HUGHES is LOVING this role…
Damn. That was filthy.
old co-worker
i bow down to you hughes….
To the Stats lovers,has Phil passed Mo’s consecutive innings without a run Stat yet,anybody?
Damn…Yet another impressive outing. If he doesn’t learn a 3rd pitch maybe his future is in the late innings.
Phil looks like a beast out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fist pump?
could hughes be the next mo?
Wow Phil has been really fun to watch, this series especially
He made that HOF look like a sissy.
The Yankees would be crazy to trade either Hughes or Joba. These guys are our future. You have to give them time to develop.
Phil is turning into Mariano circa ’96
Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse!
Wow! Phil just blew the Tigers away – and I love how he didn’t get flustered after the ump blew the 1-0 call to Thomas (that was a strike). Was I imagining things or did one of those strikes to Thomas literally tail back in – I could see it move.
Phil is throwing bb’s.
I’m more impressed with Hughes not getting upset about the umpire squeeze job on pitch 2. He’s cool out there.
i made a post on the yes boards back in may that i felt hughes shows a very similar makeup as mariano. regardless of situation, he stays even keeled and he feels he can get anyone out on his pitches. he *could* be the future closer of the team. i would love him to be a starter, but there’s a shot he’s our next mariano…
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._taki.html
AJ Burnett’s signed Sports Illustrated from Doc Gooden
Maybe Hughes will replace Mo?
A Jigger of Joba with a Philthy Chaser?
Yum.
That last 95 MPH fastball to Thomas up and away was unfair….to Thomas. Cruel and inhuman treatment.
LOL at the cult of Hughes………boy, it sounds like they are booing him, but it’s sort of like when they yelled LOU for Lou Piniella – hilarious
That Thomas at bat was just sick.
Unbelievable. The count goes to 2-0. Phil’s been throwing 90% fastballs out of the pen.
Thomas knows he’s going to see a fastball – for three pitch counts in a row. Just knows it.
And Hughes overpowers him anyway.
And it’s not like Thomas looked better on the third fastball he saw.
He was not going to catch up to that pitch. Hughes could have thrown it 10 times in a row.
Hughes has 8 strikeouts in his last 3 innings.
Alright time to get an insurance run..Let’s go Alex hack one out…
When Mo leaves of course
I don’t know if the ump was calling that all day but pitch #2 was a ball according to gameday
I’m actually looking forward to listening to Diet Coke tomorrow. I figure I’ll be laughing a lot.
“The Yankees would be crazy to trade either Hughes or Joba. These guys are our future. You have to give them time to develop.”
I agree Laura. It reminds me of something Homer Simpson said: “I beleive that children are our future-unless we stop them!”
For the record, the Yankees success in the late 90′s was built on a bullpen of Mo, Stanton, Nelson, and Mendoza. Can anyone name another pitcher (outside of 96 when Wetteland was the closer and Mo filled the Nelson role) who pitched in a close game for them?
This year, the Yankees have Mo, Hughes, Coke, and Aceves filling that role. In all honesty, this years’ version could be even better.
>>> Phil Franchise has now thrown 16 2/3 consecutive scoreless innings of relief and fanned 21.
May be he could catch that guy from Oakland from last year.
LOL.
Yikes. I thought Thomas was gonna come out of the stands with something other than the ball.
Betsy July 19th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
LOL at the cult of Hughes………boy, it sounds like they are booing him, but it’s sort of like when they yelled LOU for Lou Piniella – hilarious
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The first time i heard the “mooose” chant I asked my dad why was everyone booing mussina?
Phil has phinally phound his phate?
CB, oh that one? LOL I read that awhile ago, but I think I’ll print this out and read it on the train to Philly, lol. I find it amazing that so many experts/scouts could give up on this kid so quickly – I mean, is that how they make their living, not having faith in the players they evaluated?
Cashman was never going to trade Hughes or Joba for Doc anyway… that was just fans banter, there was nothing to it.
They always get A-Rod with that pitch!!!
Mo blows the game?
I call it first.
“n”… Why?
The Yankees pitchers have gone about 35 innings without having to be pulled from a game due to performance
A Hughes in the pen, is worth two in the bush leagues.
is Mo warming up ?
Johnny D. July 19th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
“n”… Why?
Sox fan
Captain’s Corner, you will never see Phil in the pen again after this season. He already has a 3rd pitch (cutter) and I know they will be working on his change this winter. He’s not had any time to develop it because of his injuries……I expect him to get that change down to a good/decent pitch where it will actually help him. The kid is a starter…….
I hate the Jorge cheer.
Inge will jack one out to tie.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
July 19th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Yikes. I thought Thomas was gonna come out of the stands with something other than the ball.
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I thought he was after that kid’s double scoop….
of ice cream.
most annoying AB CHANT IN THE MAJORS…lol
LOL! “n” must be confusing Mo’s abilities with Crapelbon’s.
Boy, Joba doesn’t need to throw 98 MPH when he has a 95 MPH curve ball. He threw a ton of them today.
That YES gun is useless. They’d be better off getting rid of it altogether than continuing to show such ridiculously inaccurate readings.
“I hate the Jorge cheer.”
It’s okay in doses. The problem is that they do it the entire length of his ABs. It’s starts to grate on your nerves after awhile.
Mo warming up is not a bad thing……..it’s MO.
anyone know what Mariano’s save percentage in 1 run games as opposed to 1+ run games? I’d think it would be great regardless but I think it must be around 99.7 when giving more than 1 run
Well, Royals are now tied……Shocker!@
LOL! Inge gonna homer? I think Mo should throw a HR Derby pitch to him.
Michael Kay singing lmao
LOL! Did anyone else hear Michael Kay singing?
lol.
I’m happy Sox lost.
Laura, we should appreciate any sign of life we get from the 2009 Yankee Stadium crowd. They have one of the most exciting teams in baseball and the place is mostly a morgue.
i think micheal kay just made verbal love to mariano’s entrance…
Mo was throwing 92-93 yesterday per Gameday
i hope hughes can develope a change if he hasn’t already.
or make it a real weapon if he has one.
i have seen his cutter & it looked downright nasty.
if he can control a cutter & change like he does his fastball & curve he will be a truly great pitcher.
oooh Mo is usually pretty bad on third consecutive day correct? This should be interesting
Um where are those pitches??
The Jorge chant is fun. Granted, it doesn’t need to go on the entire AB, but lighten up guys!
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Inge goes deeeeeeeeep to Jeter!
“LOL! Did anyone else hear Michael Kay singing?”
yeah. my dog just went and hid under the bed.
Carl, thanks for posting that! How neat for AJ to meet one of his idols…..
Santiago will get the game winner. He’s been clutch all year.
Thank goodness Tex is so limber. Seems he’s always stretched out fielding throws.
Betsy, I know he is a starter. I am just saying you never know what can happen down the line..
Enjoy your day off tomorrow, Mo.
There is a 100% chance you’re getting the day off no matter what.
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Hopefully “n” will give us all the mega millions lotto numbers too.
Mo is bad on three consecutive days? Where do people come up with this stuff?
LOL! “n”, get a life.
Mo on a bad day is better than any closer on a good day.
This has been a great pitching series for both teams. Classic mid-’60s pitching duels.
# Peter Abraham July 19th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Mo is bad on three consecutive days? Where do people come up with this stuff?
lmao
I guess the ump wants Mo to throw 5 strikes to each batter…
ha Inge.
“The Jorge chant is fun. Granted, it doesn’t need to go on the entire AB, but lighten up guys!”
I like it b/c it annoys the opposition, you imagine being a pitcher hearing that thing.
Arguably the greatest closer?
# Peter Abraham July 19th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Mo is bad on three consecutive days? Where do people come up with this stuff?
haha
The Ghost July 19th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Laura, we should appreciate any sign of life we get from the 2009 Yankee Stadium crowd. They have one of the most exciting teams in baseball and the place is mostly a morgue.
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I went to my 5th game at the stadium on friday. Has yet to feel like a morgue to me…..
Laird trying to bunt over the short porch???
CALL THAT !
Squeeze city
wow, how was that not a strike?
“For the record, the Yankees success in the late 90’s was built on a bullpen of Mo, Stanton, Nelson, and Mendoza. Can anyone name another pitcher (outside of 96 when Wetteland was the closer and Mo filled the Nelson role) who pitched in a close game for them?
This year, the Yankees have Mo, Hughes, Coke, and Aceves filling that role. In all honesty, this years’ version could be even better.”
This is wrong. Obviously, the bullpen referenced by MG was a crucial piece of the puzzle but to say the success of that era was built upon the bullpen is farcical.
Does MG really expect us to believe that the team would have done nearly as well with that bullpen intact but no Bernie, Tino, Paulie, Jorge, Jeter, Conie, Duque, Boomer, or Rocket???
The success of the late 90s was built upon the starters in the batting order and on the mound, just like today’s success was built upon Joba’s performance, A-Rod and Tex.
The bullpen’s role is to hold on and closeout games. Crucial? Absolutely. Integral to the success? No argument. But it was not the foundation upon which the success was built. You need to have a lead (aka, lineup has to score runs and starting pitching has to give length and quality) before the bullpen matters.
Laird must have 9 lives…Got to love the umps these days…
Squeeeeezed
That sucked – thanks ump
Jeter’s response looked a lot like my own.
SWEEP! Good close series all the way. Decent pitching all the way. Congrats team!
Yankees win!!!!!!!
The GREAT Mariano !!!!!!
That Mo kid is pretty good, huh????
SWEEEEEEEEEP !
Good start for Joba…
A-Rod and Tex roundtrippers…
Hughes to Mo–We sweep!!!!!
“n” is a genius !!! – I think “n” stands for NOT.
Betsy
July 19th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Arguably the greatest closer?
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Only if you’re having a arguement with your inner self, betsy.
1. Is this umpire redefining the strike zone?
2. I’ve been to a half dozen games so far this year, and the new Stadium is pretty loud every time. Just my experience.
two fantastic games in-a-row
n July 19th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Mo blows the game?
I call it first.
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Great job Miss Cleo
Nice game!
yes.
Yanks win
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I have a feeling “n” left the site.
Chamberlain to Hughes to Rivera……As a hitter this has to be a nightmare…Batting averages drop, many o-fors
Woo hoo!!!
What a great win – and a great weekend. I don’t want to hear how the Yankees can’t beat good teams – the Tigers are a good team and they have very good pitching.
This was a perfect series for the Yankees. Not only did they get terrific pitching, but they won close games and did what they had to do.
What an advertisement for the farm system – Joba and Phil, wow!
Yankee pitching.
Joba, Hughes and Rivera. All home grown.
Who is this Haliday you speak of?
So have the Yanks beaten any good teams this season yet?
Or does this series not matter because it’s not the Red Sox or Angels?
Just curious.
MO dances to the BEAT,of Motown,ha!
1 game out baby. Can you imagine the pressure Mo has on him when the score is so close,and yet he’s as great as ever,14 pitches wow,just wow man!
Another great job by Mo!! Great pitching by the Yanks in this series, tough series for the Tigers to lose. Let me guess Jackson and the Tigers will blame the ballpark again.
n(incompoop)
AL is giving Joba alot of props.
NYY has to start hitting. When will they ever learn that you can’t win games on solo homers?
LOL GB…….I do that quite a bit, by the way
Mark’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62892099f670847c/
When is someone going to hang a sign over ‘Teixiera Terrace’??
If we Yanks could only play in the AL Central…
Thanks Pel
Giuseppe Franco
July 19th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
So have the Yanks beaten any good teams this season yet?
Or does this series not matter because it’s not the Red Sox or Angels?
Just curious.
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Also no credit for knocking Texas out of first place to begin with.
1 game back.
the rs do not look unbeatable.
with the way joba pitched you have to be excited.
The MTA line made it’s presence known.
Joba to Coke to Yusssssse to Mo
Great job by Mo considering he has to beat the opposing team and the umps, with only a 1 run lead.
Betsy
July 19th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
LOL GB…….I do that quite a bit, by the way
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That would make you the Stick Michael of posters. Manage both sides so you can always claim victory.
according to gameday the umps were actually perfect.
Carl,
Nobody gets a pass. Lumping AP and Alex is silly.
Put Mickey Mantle back where he belongs.
GreenBeret7 July 19th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Also no credit for knocking Texas out of first place to begin with.
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Indeed.
They are now 16-3 this season against the Rangers, Tigers, and Twins – all playoff contenders right now.
GF, that’s right………there are only 2 teams in baseball that count the Angels and Sox. Sorry, make that 3 – the Phillies.
I dont’t want to hear how hard (Andy) Yankee stadium is to pitch in.
Joba the worst pitcher in the rotation,held this division leading team to 1 run.
As they say in baseball,Good pitching stops good hitters!
Joba You da manTODAY!
LOL GB, I’m already the Paul O’ Neill of posters. I don’t trash water coolers, but ever game is like war for me (and I hate feeling like that – I need to relax).
“Girardi laughs at the lohud blog”
ha, we’ll be here when he ‘s gone .
plus we make no money so we can’t be fired.
then on the other hand, he’ll be playing golf when he’s fired someday( almost all managers are) on courses most of us will never see
I think this might have been our best series of the year. The offense never exploded like we’re used to, but these are the types of games championship teams win in the postseason.
hornblower July 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Carl,
Nobody gets a pass. Lumping AP and Alex is silly.
Put Mickey Mantle back where he belongs.
That’s a lie. If you started watching baseball today, you wouldn’t even know anyone ever tested positive or used BESIDES Alex.
Jobber was back to 07 Joba
Coke was effective
Yuuuusssse put his foot in thier ass as he closed the door
Sandman put them to sleep
Joba had a nice outing today.
One thing that stuck out at me was his fastball. It seems like he’s finally learning how to use his fastball. He was easily hitting anywhere from 91-97 throughout the entire game.
To get ahead he threw around 91-93, when he really needed to get a guy he juiced it up to 95-97. Nice pitching.
Hughes has been great as well but goofy Michael Kay is saying right now how hard it will be for the Yankees to take him out of the pen. GIVE IT A BLEEPING REST MIKE! He’s in the rotation next year, no doubt about it.
Why do New Yorkers have this absurd obsession about the “8th inning guy” ? It’s so mind-numbingly stupid I can’t get over it.
You know what’s funny? Our three best relievers, besides Mo, (Hughes, Aceves, and Coke) were all thought of as starters in ST.
I can’t imagine where this team would be if the Yankees hadn’t converted them to relievers.
randy l. July 19th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
“Girardi laughs at the lohud blog”
ha, we’ll be here when he ’s gone .
plus we make no money so we can’t be fired.
then on the other hand, he’ll be playing golf when he’s fired someday( almost all managers are) on courses most of us will never see
lol
Excellent pitching performance by the Yankees. This series lived up to the expectations with strong pitching on both sides.
YES post-game Booth Report with Bob Lorenz, Ken Singleton, Michael Kay, and Al Leiter:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62892608ecc846cd/
That quote from earlier in the season by AL
“If he doesn’t get you I will”
looking good right now I must say.
randy l -
Everything comes back to golf for you!
My mom & dad are moving and had an extra set of women’s clubs and she wanted to know if I wanted them. You know, “just in case” I ever play. Um, not gonna happen. I’ve tried. I’m hopeless.
Guy form oakland is perfect through 6
from**
“Why do New Yorkers have this absurd obsession about the “8th inning guy” ? It’s so mind-numbingly stupid I can’t get over it.”
The Yankees view Hughes and Chamberlain as starters. But it is nice to know that if they don’t succeed in the rotation (which I think they will) and/or the Yankees can’t find an adequate replacement for Mo, that the organization has two dominant flamethrowers who could make a very nice living in the bullpen. Just as a last resort, of course.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
To get ahead he threw around 91-93, when he really needed to get a guy he juiced it up to 95-97. Nice pitching.
interesting.
RS,
Really it shouldn’t shock anyone that pitchers with the skill that Hughes and Chamberlain possess can dominate the 8th inning. The fact of the matter is, starting is a LOT harder than relieving.
Pel thanks man!
Bobby breaks up the perfect game
People keep clamoring for the heir to Mo and it’s completely unnecessary.
Nobody knows when Mo is going to retire. He sure doesn’t look like his game is declining and he has never said he’s going to hang up his cleats after the 2010 season.
Mo is the closer until he says he’s done. There is no reason to worry about his replacement until that happens.
They’ll find a closer when they need one. It doesn’t have to be someone they’ve groomed themselves.
I don’t know how it’s going to happen but my gut feeling believes the next Yankee closer is going to be Joakim Soria.
That dude might have the filthiest stuff of any closer in MLB.
Still impressed at what Girardi is able to see about his players. He didn’t doubt Joba would come around to this.
I really like Joe Girardi.
I spent the day at a church outing, a gorgeous dry day with a sky full of cumulus clouds and the wonderful smells of grilling meats. I felt safe with Halladay pitching against Boston and was hopeful about Joba pitching against Jackson. I didn’t get to see any of the Sux game but did see the last two outings of our game.
Happy I picked up Phil Hughes on my fantasty team. I know he will always give me Ks.
Smart or not, I haven’t been worried about Boston all season. Now I’m even less “not worried” – if that is possible.
Today is one of those “life is so sweet” days.
GO YANKEES!
GO YANKEE FANS!
STAY CUMULUS CLOUDS!!!
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6289291080f893a9/
That Brett Anderson kid is nasty. Ever since he threw that CG in Fenway, he has been untouchable.
We face him later this week when OAK comes here.
starting is a lot harder then relieving for 1 innings why is this hard for people to comprehend????
hughes and joba are 22 and 23 they should be starters in the future. the yanks need hughes in the pen this year, he will start next year and should..
need to get melancon some work, pettitte pitching monday so the bullpen will get some work…………….
edwin jackson was real good today, the 2 Hr’s by the yanks were not bad pitches, that is good news wehn arod hits a good pitch out….
tampa stealing another win from KC late on the road……
Kansas City choking again versus Tampa Bay…4-3 Tampa in the 9th.
Up next, the Orioles. No letting up. Treat them like they were the team the Yankees are one game behind.
The Orioles are not to be taken lightly as seen before.
It was overall a great day – I almost forgot about Old Timer’s day, lol.
I noted the same comment from Kay as well. I like Kay – he’s a very nice guy – but he has basically ragged on Phil for the last couple of years. That said, I think he’s referring to THIS year as regards to it being difficult for the Yankeees to take Phil out of the pen….and I agree.
yah I though Posada cannot catch Joba??
Joba did not dilly dally around he was on the rubber ready to throw all day.
my perceptions is a lot more fastballs, and a lot more at 93+…
Well, my dream wasn’t that far off. Great game by Joba
Maybe the sun will look a little bit better for Joba tomorrow then it has in his last couple of starts…lol
Betsy
July 19th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
LOL GB, I’m already the Paul O’ Neill of posters. I don’t trash water coolers, but ever game is like war for me (and I hate feeling like that – I need to relax).
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I can just hear that conversation, now.
Real Betsy: OK, Ms Tuffy…I’ll meet you under the Betsy Banner.
Inner Betsy: You got it. Just pack your lunch. It’ll be an all day job.
Real Betsy: Don’t bring your sister. Just you and me.
Tampa isin’t going away anytime soon… they are going to be a thorn in our side all year. No point in getting frustrated when they win, they are going to win 90+ games just like us.
So did we bust any more myths today?
Joba is washed up–BUSTED
Joba cant pick up his teammates–BUSTED
Yankees cant beat first place teams–BUSTED
Swisher is better in RF then Hinske—oops
For the grammer police
better THAN Hinske
Joba’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/628931667afc774c/
Swisher has a cool haircut and plays loud music in the clubhouse… that is way more important than playing good defense.
Phil Hughes is so remarkably mature and poised. I believe we are extremely fortunate to have him as part of our team. I absolutely believe that he will be part of the starting rotation at some point again in the future, and he will not forget how to be a starter in the meantime. They’ll do what they have to to stretch him out and get him back to starter status when they believe the time is right. But in the meantime, what a gold mine for our bullpen.
GB, it would be a heck of a fight because I can scratch and claw with anyone – I’ve been in my share of cat fights, lol.
Hughes’ YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62893204d02430d6/
This start saved Joba… now Cashman doesn’t have to frantically work the phones to try and get another starter. If he had another start like he did in Anaheim, Cash probably would have.
“So you don’t think he’s nibbling, he’s just missing?”
LOL.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
Nice recap of Old Timer’s day – I love how AJ was nervous about meeting Doc. I also love how the Tigers were into it – it’s just a day about good feelings. How can you beat that?
The Royals had leads in the 8th inning of all 3 games against Tampa, and lost all of them (about to lose today again).
“Everything comes back to golf for you”
doreen-
i’d throw in a few two man beach volleyball references in , but hardly anyone would know what i’m talking about.
speaking of golf. tom watson is amazing. he was at his peak, and he still is now. he does something with how he plays that is unique to some old time players, but i think it allows him to still strike the ball really well.
he plays with a dominant left hand like hogan did and he rolls the left hand back and rolls it back forward to hit down on the ball. a senior tour pro named dick rhyan taught me this move. he learned it from hogan himself as a young pro.
watson, hogan, and rhyan also chipped that way. putted that way. all left hand dominant.
what it does is create tremendous clubhead velocity for someone hogan’s or watson’s size. it’s also an easy swing thought to have and lasts throughout a lifetime.
almost all modern swing coaches teach the body first and the hands at the end of the swing chain. the old method of left hand turning over as the primary swing thought is totally from another long gone time but it obviously has it’s merits.
it wouldn’t surprise me to see it pop up as a new golf swing trend in some future time.
at any rate , hats off to watson for a performance for the ages.
osjanks
July 19th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
“For the record, the Yankees success in the late 90’s was built on a bullpen of Mo, Stanton, Nelson, and Mendoza. Can anyone name another pitcher (outside of 96 when Wetteland was the closer and Mo filled the Nelson role) who pitched in a close game for them?
This year, the Yankees have Mo, Hughes, Coke, and Aceves filling that role. In all honesty, this years’ version could be even better.”
This is wrong. Obviously, the bullpen referenced by MG was a crucial piece of the puzzle but to say the success of that era was built upon the bullpen is farcical.
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sorry I might not have been clear enough, that post is in response to many comments that claim the Yankees are at a disadvantage because the bullpen isn’t deep enough, it had nothing to do with the core reasons why the Yankees built a dynasty in the late 90′s-those, as you stated include solid starting pitching and position players who pick the right times to come through to help win a game. My point was that in the 90s the Yankees only trusted 4 pitchers out of the bullpen in close games and that is exactly what they have right now so it can’t be an issue.
The mark of a solid pitcher – give up a hit in the 7th after pitching a no hitter to that point and continue to shut the other team down.
Good on ya Brett Anderson.
Mitre is lined up against a guy named Rich Hill on Tuesday who has a 7.22 ERA.
I think Girardi has got to be given credit for his handling of the bullpen this year. It was his great strength last year and once he got rid of Ramirez and Veras and brought in Hughes he got back into form. The Yankees can use a blow out or two to get Bruney back on track but to have four relievers that you feel comfortable putting in ANY situation has to feel pretty good as a manager.
Phil Hughes, in my opinion, has the stuff, demeanor, and work ethic to be a Cy Young winner at least once (maybe more in his career) as a starter. This time in the bullpen has been invaluable in his development because he knows he can reach back and get hitters out when he’s in trouble. I’m not sure he knew that earlier this year.
Remember when we were all ticked off that some scrub named JA Happ of the Phillies shut us down?
Now, he’s 7-0 with a 2.68 ERA.
Joba had a great response to Pete
Imagine if Joba didn’t make it past the 3rd inning today with the day that Hallday had? It probably would have been the last game of Hughes and Montero’s Yankee career
Al’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/62893622b0562276/
What a great series, wow. The cherry on top was Joba stepping up and competing. Got some fire in his belly, just great. Another big step in his development. All he needs is patience. And for those who maintain you can’t throw FBs all the time, I give you Mariano. Everyone knows what’s coming and the speed. Pitching is like Real Estate – location, location, location.
Three game sweep of the first place Tigers, very impressive – even though the Tigers have no offense to speak of.
OK, let’s take at least 5 of the next 7 at home.
Then comes a real good test of this teams mettle: Road games of 3 in TB, 4 in Chi. (and the White Sox are red hot right now), 2 in Toronto (why only 2?), then home for 4 against the hated Red Stockings. If the Yanks can go 9 and 4 in those games, then count me in as predicting a real good postseason – WS maybe????
Yep, the schedule is going to get tougher next week… should be interesting. Winning that Tampa series is very important.
Pitching matchups for the BAL series
A. Pettitte (4.85) vs. D. Hernandez (3.94)
S. Mitre (N/A) vs. R. Hill (7.22)
A. Burnett (3.81) vs. J. Berkin (6.44)
Tigers must be sick. They had a comfortable lead in the division, and all of a sudden it’s a three horse race.
Nip & tuck in the AL East the rest of the way.
Grats to the Doc and the Blue Jays for helping trim the lead to 1 game.
Robertson, Melancon, Tomko, and Bruney have not pitched in over 10 days. Nobody should get upset when they are rusty and have shaky command.
“Rob came up with the great idea to have the current players — along with the Old Timers — sign the wall with a silver marker. The rule is that only Hall of Famers can sign within the logo.”
so Guidry can have his # retired but he can’t sign inside the yankee logo
that don’t seem fair
CB: Are you kidding?? Isn’t it usual practice to leave the game pitcher alone? Don’t be starting up some new crap about the others players not liking Joba. Joba won that game for chris sake, whether he sat alone or they all sat around and told jokes is not pertinent. You must be kidding?
He was kidding.