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		<title>By: CMC</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/19/joba-in-a-nebraska-state-of-mind/comment-page-4/#comment-920473</link>
		<dc:creator>CMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thrilled that the Joba we grew to love is back, but whoodathunk that chasing after a three-year-old boy could actually be &quot;relaxing?&quot;  In any case, it worked for him, and for that, I&#039;m thankful!  I hope his next start is just as productive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thrilled that the Joba we grew to love is back, but whoodathunk that chasing after a three-year-old boy could actually be &#8220;relaxing?&#8221;  In any case, it worked for him, and for that, I&#8217;m thankful!  I hope his next start is just as productive.</p>
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		<title>By: JeterJobafan</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/19/joba-in-a-nebraska-state-of-mind/comment-page-4/#comment-920383</link>
		<dc:creator>JeterJobafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca:  Oops, what I meant to say at the end of the post above is:  All of sudden Girardi is actually talking about Joba&#039;s lack of total innings pitched. It&#039;s an eye opener and he nay have read your theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca:  Oops, what I meant to say at the end of the post above is:  All of sudden Girardi is actually talking about Joba&#8217;s lack of total innings pitched. It&#8217;s an eye opener and he nay have read your theory.</p>
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		<title>By: JeterJobafan</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/19/joba-in-a-nebraska-state-of-mind/comment-page-4/#comment-920379</link>
		<dc:creator>JeterJobafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REBECCA:  I hope you see this post.

From the Yankees Home Page:  Excerpt on Joba: See last paragraph for Giraradi&#039;s comment on innings pitch.

. . .Limiting the Detroit offense to only a solo home run -- Clete Thomas&#039; fourth-inning shot -- and three hits through 6 2/3 innings, Chamberlain overcame early command issues and showed huge improvements. 

Winning for the first time since June 24 at Atlanta, Chamberlain had allowed seven or more hits in each of his past five starts, but Yankees manager Joe Girardi said there were no mechanical changes during the break. 

&quot;The only thing that was different was that he had extra days,&quot; Girardi said. &quot;He did his bullpens like he always does. As far as work, he had a chance to go home and probably evaluate his first half and step back and learn. Things slow down when you have three or four off-days.&quot; 

Especially when you are able to evade jams, which is something Chamberlain has struggled to do in recent starts. That has led to him running high pitch counts and taxing the bullpen, but Chamberlain was much better at bobbing and weaving on Sunday, a step as he continues to grow. 

&quot;I think people forget that he had [88 1/3] innings in the Minor Leagues, which is not a whole lot,&quot; Girardi said. &quot;He&#039;s got 30-plus starts under his belt in the big leagues. It&#039;s not a ton of pitching.&quot; 

After readng Rebecca&#039;s excellent &quot;Joba Theory&quot; on her blog, the total innings pitched in college &amp; minor leagues, which is miniscule compared to other pitchers, could have lead to the infamous Joba&#039;s Rules.  If he had such a low pitch count before entering the majors in &#039;07, it would make sense to limit his major leagues pitches and innings.  

But how was he expected to catch up in innings pitched? Last year was a lost season.  When Joba returned from DL, he should have been sent down to rehab instead of being put into the pen.  He could  have rehabbed and gained more innings pitched.  Hindsight.

Experts speak of arm strength and stamina.  Joba has not had the sufficient innings to build arm strength which could lead to his lack of stamina.  Think about it.  He has not been adequately stretched out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REBECCA:  I hope you see this post.</p>
<p>From the Yankees Home Page:  Excerpt on Joba: See last paragraph for Giraradi&#8217;s comment on innings pitch.</p>
<p>. . .Limiting the Detroit offense to only a solo home run &#8212; Clete Thomas&#8217; fourth-inning shot &#8212; and three hits through 6 2/3 innings, Chamberlain overcame early command issues and showed huge improvements. </p>
<p>Winning for the first time since June 24 at Atlanta, Chamberlain had allowed seven or more hits in each of his past five starts, but Yankees manager Joe Girardi said there were no mechanical changes during the break. </p>
<p>&#8220;The only thing that was different was that he had extra days,&#8221; Girardi said. &#8220;He did his bullpens like he always does. As far as work, he had a chance to go home and probably evaluate his first half and step back and learn. Things slow down when you have three or four off-days.&#8221; </p>
<p>Especially when you are able to evade jams, which is something Chamberlain has struggled to do in recent starts. That has led to him running high pitch counts and taxing the bullpen, but Chamberlain was much better at bobbing and weaving on Sunday, a step as he continues to grow. </p>
<p>&#8220;I think people forget that he had [88 1/3] innings in the Minor Leagues, which is not a whole lot,&#8221; Girardi said. &#8220;He&#8217;s got 30-plus starts under his belt in the big leagues. It&#8217;s not a ton of pitching.&#8221; </p>
<p>After readng Rebecca&#8217;s excellent &#8220;Joba Theory&#8221; on her blog, the total innings pitched in college &amp; minor leagues, which is miniscule compared to other pitchers, could have lead to the infamous Joba&#8217;s Rules.  If he had such a low pitch count before entering the majors in &#8217;07, it would make sense to limit his major leagues pitches and innings.  </p>
<p>But how was he expected to catch up in innings pitched? Last year was a lost season.  When Joba returned from DL, he should have been sent down to rehab instead of being put into the pen.  He could  have rehabbed and gained more innings pitched.  Hindsight.</p>
<p>Experts speak of arm strength and stamina.  Joba has not had the sufficient innings to build arm strength which could lead to his lack of stamina.  Think about it.  He has not been adequately stretched out.</p>
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		<title>By: rm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/19/joba-in-a-nebraska-state-of-mind/comment-page-4/#comment-920374</link>
		<dc:creator>rm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca,  My point is the truly special pitchers may not need to be streatched out in the minors.  Clemens only had about 150 dominant innings in the minors before he came up but he did have a lot of innings in college.  &quot;Special&quot; pitchers like Gibson, Seaver, Clemens, Koufax and Palmer  probably don&#039;t need to be stretched out in the minors.  But &quot;ordinary&quot; or even &quot;very good&quot; pitchers clearly do.  Todays performance gives me some hope that Joba can be one of the truly special ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca,  My point is the truly special pitchers may not need to be streatched out in the minors.  Clemens only had about 150 dominant innings in the minors before he came up but he did have a lot of innings in college.  &#8220;Special&#8221; pitchers like Gibson, Seaver, Clemens, Koufax and Palmer  probably don&#8217;t need to be stretched out in the minors.  But &#8220;ordinary&#8221; or even &#8220;very good&#8221; pitchers clearly do.  Todays performance gives me some hope that Joba can be one of the truly special ones.</p>
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		<title>By: JeterJobafan</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/07/19/joba-in-a-nebraska-state-of-mind/comment-page-4/#comment-920258</link>
		<dc:creator>JeterJobafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Joba fan I am still thrilled with his game today.  He exhibited the pitching ability most of us recognize as stellar. Happy, happy for my favorite player. 

Don&#039;t know what got him going but I am happy that through all this adversity he was able to reach back and pitch like he used to.  Now to build on this win for the rest of the season.  Truthfully, I think it was the visit home to Nebraska to be with his dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Joba fan I am still thrilled with his game today.  He exhibited the pitching ability most of us recognize as stellar. Happy, happy for my favorite player. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know what got him going but I am happy that through all this adversity he was able to reach back and pitch like he used to.  Now to build on this win for the rest of the season.  Truthfully, I think it was the visit home to Nebraska to be with his dad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d rather have 23 yr old studs than 32 yr old Halladay. He can go to Phillies or Cards.&quot;

Bad news friend, he&#039;s going to the Red Sox. NYY couldn&#039;t put together a package for him if they wanted to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d rather have 23 yr old studs than 32 yr old Halladay. He can go to Phillies or Cards.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bad news friend, he&#8217;s going to the Red Sox. NYY couldn&#8217;t put together a package for him if they wanted to.</p>
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		<title>By: EY</title>
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		<dc:creator>EY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want Joba or Hughes to be part of any package for Halladay. I&#039;d rather have 23 yr old studs than 32 yr old Halladay. He can go to Phillies or Cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want Joba or Hughes to be part of any package for Halladay. I&#8217;d rather have 23 yr old studs than 32 yr old Halladay. He can go to Phillies or Cards.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick in SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick in SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:arrow:</description>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete will be on WFAN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete will be on WFAN</p>
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		<title>By: Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was one of the people worried about Mariano.

I&#039;m unabashed. It&#039;s going to happen eventually, there is nothing wrong with wondering whether tis is it or not.

Clearly not, but you get what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of the people worried about Mariano.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m unabashed. It&#8217;s going to happen eventually, there is nothing wrong with wondering whether tis is it or not.</p>
<p>Clearly not, but you get what I mean.</p>
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