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Welcome to the team! Fail and we’ll turn on ya.
Grats on the belt!
You can’t ask for more from Mitre than he gave them, given his probable true talent.
Jorge on HBO now!
anyone have a link to that road offense standings web site?
19 over
FIRE girardi
wow posada snapped
Mitre could have come away from this game with a much better feeling if Girardi pulled him one batter earlier.
Sergio Mitre got the belt tonight.
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When pitches a complete game he’ll get a “pie”.
carl July 21st, 2009 at 10:50 pm
wow posada snapped
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That was intense.
Congrats Sergio
What did Posada snap about?
Man Jorge JR is big now
Betsy
July 21st, 2009 at 10:46 pm
MG, I know you disagree, but the Yankees need a #3 starter, not a #5……….Even if Andy and Joba settle down somewhat, neither is going to be reliable enough in my book. At best, they will be good #4 and 5 starters….at best.
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Betsy, we do disagree on this. Unless the Yankees gut their farm system they will not get a better starter than either Andy or Joba. Answer one question for me-which team has a #3 and #4 starter that gives them an advantage over the Yankees in a playoff series?
When Oakland comes in this weekend they’ll be without Jason Giambi who was put on the 15 day DL today.
# Aaron July 21st, 2009 at 10:52 pm
What did Posada snap about?
After his sons first surgery, his head was swollen and he needed another one. Jorge Posada was in Toronto playing a game…got a called strike 3 and just snapped on the ump. He was mad about his son and the doctors.
Congrats Mr. Mitre tomorrow we will call you Cy Young until you screw up for which when we’ll call you the crappiest SP in the league.
REPOST**
B/c I know no one watched the MY9 post game show, they did a good Q/A w/ Phil Phranchise
Any seems like Yusssse favorite song to listen to on a stranded island is Metallica’s – “Sad But True” not bad 8th inning/CL music. (YUSSSSSSSE SHUT UP !)
It’s too bad Mitre gave up those last two runs, he looked good tonight.
I saw enough to give him another few starts. He looks confident up there and his stuff/control isn’t half bad.
Nice to see his son is doing great!
Oh gotcha. I thought we were talking about a postgame interview. Wich I didnt understand at all. Craniosynostosis is pretty serious. My younger sister now 13 has it and had alot of surgury when she was younger and even one as recently as last August. I obviously cant say I know how stressed Posada felt but im sure my parents would.
Mitre was solid tonight, not great but certainly deserving another shot. Nice sinker/slider action tonight.
So if the last time we were 18 over was the last day of 2007, when was the last time we were 19 over?
Steroid Player of the Game Belt!
Each juicer gets the belt because their gonads have shriveled from up and can no longer hold their pants up!
“When Oakland comes in this weekend they’ll be without Jason Giambi who was put on the 15 day DL today.”
You say that like it’s a good thing, Giambi’s numbers this year make Teixiera’s numbers look Ruthian by comparison.
Ugh, I missed Phil on My9? LOL Just my luck – what’d he say?
MG, Joba is a kid who’s going to be up and down; I don’t think he’s as good or reliable as you think. As to Andy, this is an older Andy who, IMO, doesn’t have all that much left. He pitched great yesterday, but if we see more of those starts on a consistent basis, I’d be very surprised. If we make the playoffs, I would not be
I hope Mitre knows the belt rules!
It might not go over well with his teammates, if he puts it up on Ebay tonight.
Aaron
Man that has to be tough on any parent. Is your sister doing ok? I hope she is.
oops….
I would not be confident in him. This has nothing to do with his past performances – just his present (and 2nd half of last year).
“Ugh, I missed Phil on My9? LOL Just my luck – what’d he say?”
Favorite ball player: Mo Vaughn (he was a Red Sox fan)
If he could have a tag team partner to wrestle w/ him: AJ Burnett
If he were on a stranded island what 1 song would he want to listen to: Metallica’s “Sad But True” (SHUT UP !
)
Toughest thing about NYC: The media they’re everywhere.
Thanks Carl
Shes actually doing great. Wich is actually a miracle considering when she was born they thought she would be both blind and death. Unfortunatly not everyone can be as lucky as she was.
What a welcome for Mitre,clap clap!!
Division leader and sole 1st place Yankees,yeah.
What was Posada pissed at and who did he snap at?
I’d like to thank the guys for addressing my HR only concerns from earlier today by manufacturing a run and hitting with RISP tonight. Good job!
Oh, and Robbie’s HR was great too.
Joba and Pettitte will be fine. They won’t be great every start but they don’t have to be with this offense.
These last two starts are something for them to build on. Pettitte had always been a second half pitcher until last season when he had the bum shoulder.
He’ll do what is necessary if he’s feeling good physically.
Brandon, thanks!
LOL Phil…….he’s certainly honest about the media.
rivera 66 out of 68 save opportunies since 09 season. congrats mitre
Mitre did look better than I would have expected, the guy is still 28 and can be valuable at the back-end and allowing Ace to stay in the bullpen. Also great job saving Hughes tonight Tex
GF, I hope you’re right because if you are, the Yanks will be in very good shape.
He also said ppl say he looks like Will Ferrell and that’s his favorite comedian, sad but true
drunk and angry Sox fan out trolling, eh?
the night is now complete.
MG, Do not be dellusional about the club’s need for a good starter…..Come October. who is throwing the 3rd game in the first round of 3 of 5 ???? I have been saying all season that Joba is the key, however come October he may not even be in the equation…..Betsy is right, it’s a big problem come Playoffs
Congratulations to Igawa for setting the career record for wins tonight!!!!
Aaron
That’s great Aaron
Betsy July 21st, 2009 at 11:03 pm
What was Posada pissed at and who did he snap at?
Posada snapped at an umpire on a called strike 3 because of Jorge Jr’s condition….
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We were discussing the HBO special, nothing that happened tonight
Betsy, here’s the line on Andy’s pitching (based on my experiences on the mound in high school and college plus 55 years of watching the Yankees):
-Andy’s velocity is where it was 2 years ago (89-90)
-He has had problems with his cutter recently and had it working last night for the first time in quite awhile.
-He had back problems earlier this year, it’s possible that it contributed to the issues with the cutter.
-He’s also had control issues, see back problems above
If he can get the cutter over efffectively it’s enough for him to pitch consistently. If not, he is going to struggle. That’s just the way it is.
Betsy, who is available (other than Halladay, who isn’t getting traded to the Yankees unless they give up way too much) that would be an improvement? And which of the other playoff contenders have anything better in the starting rotation? You can’t argue Wakefield any more, he’s on the DL and then you never know what you get when he comes back. Check the Angels and Rays rotations and I think you’ll be surprised by how well Joba and Andy match up. The unknown about Joba is that he could suck for most of this year or he may just become a dominant starter (or something in between). The overall fact is that the Yankees are 25-12 in games started by Joba and Andy and there are no style points in baseball.
The Yankees have the benefit of time right now because they are winning consistently and are in first place, why trade for players until you absolutely know you need them? Joba and Andy pitch this weekend, if they are solid again does that make you worry less (something we really want, rooting for the Yankees is supposed to be fun lol).
great blog post about good guy Phil Hughes:
http://nyyankeesrumors.com/the.....age-board/
On My9 Phil had also said that Rios was his toughest batter to face.
Wakefield on the DL? What happened?
Atta boy Igawa! Way to earn your paycheck and make a difference.
Pat M….
July 21st, 2009 at 11:07 pm
MG, Do not be dellusional about the club’s need for a good starter…..Come October. who is throwing the 3rd game in the first round of 3 of 5 ???? I have been saying all season that Joba is the key, however come October he may not even be in the equation…..Betsy is right, it’s a big problem come Playoffs
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Pat M, I’m not being delusional, I just don’t want the Yankees gutting the farm system for a starter. Pitchers like Washburn are not an upgrade over Andy and Joba so who do you get and for what? And, as I’ve stated before, what do the other teams have that is any better?
Pettitte is probably going to be inconsistent for the remainder of the season, but I wouldn’t burn prospects to replace him. Of course, I wouldn’t start him in the playoffs either.
Could we trade for Matt Holliday from the As, right handed OF, Damon has become tough to watch out in LF
I’m not even just talking playoffs – we have a long two months ahead of us and I just don’t think it’s a good idea to rely on hoping that Joba and Andy turn things around. Andy gets by mostly on guts and guile – he’s not going anywhere. Joba is Joba – he’s a kid and bound to be up and down. So – CC, AJ and Joba, Andy, Mitre do not inspire confidence. They absolutely need a good #3.
The pitcher we face tomorrow is 1-7. We have to pound him into the ground.
pat July 21st, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Wakefield on the DL? What happened?
Back problems.
NYY, thanks! Totally understandable – poor Jorge. Fortunately, his son is ok….
I’m going on some RS sites,to read their cries.
Yankees finally are winning against the teams they are suppose to.
“Could we trade for Matt Holliday from the As, right handed OF, Damon has become tough to watch out in LF”
Ummm No. And he’s a FA this offseason…ummm No.
Amazing how little faith people have in Pettitte. Andy has always been a big game pitcher. I am very confident if he is pitching game 3 in the playoffs. Who would you rather have pitch game 3 Pettitte or Wang? I would take Andy. Joba can be lights out so saw him outpitch Beckett last year. Also both Sabathia and Burnett can pitch on 3 days if needed.
OK Betsy, you can worry, there is nothing I can do to help. But 25-12 in games started by Joba and Andy, how much better can you get than that in the next 2 months?
Thank you Abdababdaserser.
Betsy,
Although I took grief here for saying that Hughes could go back to the rotation, Cashman said the same thing to Ken Davidoff this weekend, citing the fact that it will likely be easier to trade for a reliever.
Now, he could be engaging in posturing, but I wouldn’t rule out stretching Hughes out if the need arises.
MG, I can’t say I disagree with any of your points. It’s frustrating because I wouldn’t trade good prospects for Washburn………there IS no one out there that I can think of who would fill our needs. I really hope you are right about Andy…………I’m skeptical, but I guess we’ll see.
Everyone has issues with the back of their rotation. The Yanks are far from the only one.
Look at the Red Sox….
Dice-K has been a complete disaster just like Wang – ineffectiveness, injuries, and all.
Wakefield was just placed on the DL. Smoltz hasn’t been good at all. Penny hasn’t been good, either.
The Yanks probably do need to go find another arm but their primary competition is not exactly sending out the 1970 Baltimore Orioles to the mound every night.
They have just as many issues as the Yanks do.
MG, I’m not fretting, but you and I simply want what’s best for the team and we disagree on the best method. Just because the Yankees have a good record in Andy and Joba’s games doesn’t mean they’ve pitched well – it’s merely a product of the Yankees scoring a lot of runs. I’m glad you have faith in Andy, but IMO, it’s still something of blind faith. I think the Yankees need pitching – and I think it’s an obvious need. It has nothing to do with me worrying and everything to do with me being realistic.
If the Yankees could start beating the Sox, I can see the Rays overtaking them as well.
GF, all true………didn’t think of it like that.
Richie, I wouldn’t bother stretching Phil out…..it’s really too late for that and I do not want him bouncing from starter to reliever. I honestly think Phil is where he is for the rest of 2009
Pettite 9 years ago couldn’t close out the Arizona Diamondbacks…Please save the big game angle for someone who;ll buy it…..Cashman will not take that chance with what he has right now…His butt is on the line…..
Betsy, I’ve met Andy (played golf with he and Roger at my club about 6 years ago) and know how hard he works and how much he hates to lose. You can’t imagine a more competitive guy as well as a truly genuine good guy. He’s pitched some excellent games this year and has always been solid in the playoffs, I have no problem with him as the game 3 starter in each series in the playoffs.
You still have to look at the likely matchups for game 3 with the other teams-the Sox would either start Wakefield or Smoltz and neither is any better (if at all) than Andy. The Angels staff is a mess-Ervin Santana’s ERA is over 6.00 and no one else is scary. The Rays have even less out there, the only solid guys are Niemann (really a rookie)and Garza with Kazmir all messed up, Shields only so-so, and Price is the same as Joba. I just see the Yankees has having a huge advantage in the #1 and #2 spots except agains the Sox (where I think it’s about even) so even if they are at a very slight (at best) disadvantage in the #3 and #4 it still puts them more likely to win a series, particularly since they can score runs in many ways.
Montero finishes the night at 3-5 with a double, 1 run scored and 2 RBI. 1 strikeout.
Bleich finished with 5.2 innings 5 hits, 1 run (earned), 5 walks and 3 strikeouts. Trento beat Shaun Marcum 9-2. He gave up 5 runs but only 1 earned.
Beckett, their stopper, lost tonight.
Wakefield on the DL, out for at least 3 starts.
Penny is replacement level.
Smoltz is worse than replacement level.
Lester is pitching well, but for some reason the Sox can’t score for him.
Bucholtz is just up from AAA. Lots of “promise,” but we know where that goes…
These next few games are going to be very interesting. Time to perhaps get a bit of breathing room going into August.
Oh,forgot to mention Yankees ,2nd best record,behind Torre’s Dodgers,they are 8 games ahead in the NL Central.
Why would people want Hughes to come back to the rotation this year. Girardi said it would take 25 days to get him stretched out thats not going to happen. Aceves is the candidate to go into the starting rotation from the bullpen if Mitre doesn’t work out.
Hughes has a 5.45 era as a starter this year and 0.84 era as a reliever. I think he is in the right role.
Pat M…. July 21st, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Pettite 9 years ago couldn’t close out the Arizona Diamondbacks…Please save the big game angle for someone who;ll buy it…..Cashman will not take that chance with what he has right now…His butt is on the line…..
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Do you really want to go there?
By that token, Mo couldn’t close them out either.
Pettitte pitched very well against the Tribe at Cleveland in 2007.
Pat, that’s a bogus argument and you know it. Andy’s career playoff record is 14-9 with a 3.96 ERA, that’s about the same as his regular season career stats except in the playoffs it’s against tougher teams. Mo didn’t get 3 outs in game 7 either that year but you can’t hold that against him either.
Again, the question is, what pitcher is available to fil the #3 role without sacrificing the future in real prospects and which other teams likely to be in the playoffs have anything better in those spots?
“Hughes has a 5.45 era as a starter this year and 0.84 era as a reliever. I think he is in the right role.”
If you take away one bad start by hughes in baltimore in which he surrendered 8 runs, his era would be 3+. He was not a terrible starter.
Wakefield not sick,his little feelings are still hurt,because he didn’t get to pitch in the ASG,AND HE’S POUTING. hehehe!
77513 July 21st, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Hughes has a 5.45 era as a starter this year and 0.84 era as a reliever. I think he is in the right role.
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Yeah, that’s a little disingenuous.
He had a really bad night against the Orioles (1.2 IP, 8 ER) and compiled a 3.55 ERA in his other six starts.
Which sample do you think best describes how Hughes pitched in the rotation this season?
One start against Baltimore or the other six starts?
GF
You tend to forget game 3 of the 96 WS against Atlanta, if you’re going to bring up post season games.
I recall the score was 1-0, correct, in just about the biggest Yankee game in 20 years…
From the last thread…
“Our offense was NOT always clicking. I guess it’s easy to forget the extended slump the Yankees were in. (Thanks Patrick, you’re right. The slump didn’t bother me either!)
And injuries have been MINIMAL?
Just wow to that.”
You may want to look back at those box scores
We averaged 5.8 runs a game in April… and finished above .500 for the month. There were only 3 games in April that we lost with scoring less than 4 runs. The offense has always been there.
If everyone here is comfortable with Andy Pettite as the # 3 pitcher in October great….Yanks will be lucky to survive past the first round……And I’m just laying it out there so I’m on the record….They need and will get another quality starter…..
AJ Burnett woukd be a fine #3 starter for this team…vry fine…
Barring that, Andy making a road start with Master Philip loose wouldn’t be bad… Lot of time between now and then, however.
Pat, so who do you get and which players do you give up? You can’t just keep repeating the same stuff over and over as well as not providing the #3 starters on other teams who put the Yankees at a disadvantage.
PittsburghYankeeFan July 21st, 2009 at 11:31 pm
GF
You tend to forget game 3 of the 96 WS against Atlanta, if you’re going to bring up post season games.
I recall the score was 1-0, correct, in just about the biggest Yankee game in 20 years…
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I’m very aware of Pettitte’s postseason accolades.
My only point was to illustrate some more recent success – not cite something that happened when he was 24 year old.
Next thread
I think Joba has chance to make this a moot argument.
But if not, I am ok with Andy.
well deserved