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Playing football in a baseball park

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 21, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Here’s where the football field will be at Yankee Stadium in 2010. As you can see, the corners of the end zone will be in the dugouts. That should make for some exciting plays.

Lonn Trost said “adjustments” would be made to fit the football field within the space.

Here’s my question, didn’t they know they would want to play a football game in there when they designed the stadium? Why not plan accordingly?

They’re going to announce more games this week. Rutgers will be playing Army, etc. Trost refused to answer a question about how much revenue the team would make from renting out the Stadium. But Army and Rutgers are public institutions, so those details will be available to some degree.

 
 

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67 Responses to “Playing football in a baseball park”

  1. Bill from NJ July 21st, 2009 at 11:42 am

    cant wait to see how this turns out..

  2. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Pete, mention to Trost and other Yankees big whigs that I’d love to see my Hokies play in Yankee Stadium…very few fans in college football travel like the Hokies do! plus we’ve already built up somewhat of a friendship…bringing NY some big money would be a great way for the Hokies to say “thanks” for all of the NY generosity after 4/16/07.

  3. henner July 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am

    thats gonna be great. loved how the bottom of the first was long last night and kay and singleton were running out of questions for the army coach

  4. Overtake Sawks Tonight July 21st, 2009 at 11:45 am

    I know its VERY early to even ask.. But do you think Yankees Season Ticket holders would have a crack a tickets to this?

  5. Zack July 21st, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Why even do this? There’s plenty of football stadiums around that can hold the game *without modifications*. Seems very strange to me.

  6. Boogie Down Bob July 21st, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Zack,

    $$$$$$$

  7. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Overtake…I imagine the 2 schools will require the lions share of the tickets but no reason the remaining portion of tickets wouldn’t be available to Yankee season ticket holders before the general public…

    for example, for the VT v Bama game in September at the Georgia Dome…the dome holds about 71,000 fans. VT got 30,000 as did Bama with 11,000 or so going to media outlets, etc…both schools sold over their allotment though, so no tickets were available to the local public

  8. m July 21st, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Yawn.

    Erica,

    I think you were scrutinized more than the others because you were wearing a raincoat when it was sunny!

  9. 86w183 July 21st, 2009 at 11:56 am

    I think this is a good idea and hope my schedule lets me come up for it. One thing for sure, those VIP baseball seats will be lousy football seats.

    Looks like seats near the foul polls will be the best ones, of course they’ll be taken down for the game, won’t they?

    when you play football in a baseball stadium there is an awful lots of wasted space.

  10. JohnM July 21st, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Sitelines should be great from all seating areas.

  11. Matt July 21st, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    Okay, I know ND vs. Army is historic, but why have Rutgers play Army? In 2011, Rutgers could be a top 20 to top 10 team. Why not match them up with Penn State, Clemson, etc.

  12. miggs July 21st, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    who cares?

  13. JohnM July 21st, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Overtake Sawks Tonight
    July 21st, 2009 at 11:45 am
    I know its VERY early to even ask.. But do you think Yankees Season Ticket holders would have a crack a tickets to this?

    It’s a Home Game for Notre Dame so their Alumni will get the first crack at tickets. Few if any will be availble for public purchase.

  14. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    I think that you can expect that one of the games will be one of george steinbrenner’s favorite games, Grambling against another black university like Alcorn State or Florida A & M. It was always one of his big charity events.

  15. Dutchman July 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    So a football field fit in the old yankee stadium, the “new” dimensions are the same as the “old,” but the new stadium can no longer accommodate a football field?

    Seems a bit odd?

  16. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    I hear alot of words like “college football sucks”, “who cares”, “this is a baseball blog”. To me that’s a kind of vanity, a sort of self-absorption, that I try to steer clear of.

  17. Greg July 21st, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    The fact that they are going to be making “adjustments” in the offseason is refreshing since, while they’re at it, they can move the fences back.

  18. Patrick the Prospect Hugger July 21st, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Hokiehill,

    It’s the venue that doesn’t matter, to me anyways. I’m not a Notre Dame fan anyways so I couldn’t care less what they do.

  19. 86w183 July 21st, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Grambling/Morgan State was a regular event at the Stadium wasn’t it?

    Amen Hokie.. those who make cracks about college football probably didn’t attend a school with a good program.

  20. Mark in Tampa July 21st, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    That rendering can’t be to scale. A football field is 360′, including the end zones. One end zone is at the plate, the other ends at the warning track. This would make it @375-385′ to straightaway CF. Unless the dimensions are way less than advertised.

  21. DB July 21st, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Dude, it doesn’t fit. How do they plan on taking out a dugout? The only thing I see that might work would be to take down the outfield walls and part of Monument Park..I guess. It just doesn’t fit.

  22. miggs July 21st, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Please, I’m a big fan of college football.

    But I have to read all this crap about 2 boring bad football teams that no one who didn’t attend either school would care about.

    And Hokiehill manages to make comments almost every day about his stupid VTech team.

    Give it a rest. No one cares.

  23. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    This kind of thing is less for Yankees fans anyway…it’s a way to make money and much more of a novelty for the college team’s fans to say “I saw us play football in Yankees Stadium.” There have been rumors about VT playing Tennessee at Bristol for years…it hasn’t and probably will never happen but that would be an incredible experience as a VT fan for me…

  24. vinny-b (keep Montero) July 21st, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    “I hear alot of words like “college football sucks”, “who cares”, “this is a baseball blog”. To me that’s a kind of vanity, a sort of self-absorption, that I try to steer clear of”

    I know Hokie. They’re the same simps who knock others, whenever someone talks about the Jets on the blog

  25. vinny-b (keep Montero) July 21st, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    go RUTGERS !!!

  26. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    “Please, I’m a big fan of college football.

    But I have to read all this crap about 2 boring bad football teams that no one who didn’t attend either school would care about.

    And Hokiehill manages to make comments almost every day about his stupid VTech team.

    Give it a rest. No one cares.”

    The post was a joke, calm down…

  27. vinny-b (keep Montero) July 21st, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    “Please, I’m a big fan of college football.
    But I have to read all this crap about 2 boring bad football teams that no one who didn’t attend either school would care about.
    And Hokiehill manages to make comments almost every day about his stupid VTech team.
    Give it a rest. No one cares”

    speaking of no one cares. STFU

  28. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Here’s the original quote to make you feel better…

    “I hear alot of words like beauty, handsomeness, incredibly chiseled features. To me that’s a kind of vanity, a sort of self-absorption, that I try to steer clear of.”

    -Hansel

  29. Tom B July 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    the day after this game, they will realize that no one gives a damn about ND football anymore

  30. m July 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Yeah, I don’t like being told what to like.

    Especially college basketball. The so-called “purists” are always harping on how beautiful college basketball is and how the professional game lacks “fundamentals”.

    If my team was playing at NYS, then I would be excited.

    But right now? I’m still a buzz about catching the Sox again. :)

  31. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    vinny, I wouldn’t mind seeing a VT v Rutgers matchup again. Former Big East foes going at it…

  32. Shame Spencer July 21st, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    ..everyone seems a bit tense today. lets calm down and bash the Mets to make it all better :)

  33. Joe I July 21st, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    “Amen Hokie.. those who make cracks about college football probably didn’t attend a school with a good program.”

    Hey! I went to Temple, but I love college football. Of course, I had to travel to see a good program. I back up Hokiehill about Hokie fans being good travelers. They came up to Philly to play Temple, and the upper deck was opened at old Veterans Stadium, which is saying something for a Temple game. The mascots got into a fight, and Michael Vick had like a 60-70 yard TD run. But those fans are great!

  34. Tom in N.J. July 21st, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Wait, isn”t this a baseball blog?

    College football sucks. Who cares!

  35. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    “..everyone seems a bit tense today. lets calm down and bash the Mets to make it all better ”

    My plan to post using Zoolander quotes through out the day has gone terribly awry

  36. pat July 21st, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    I Love Football….just not in July. Get back to me when there is a nip in the air and the leaves are less green.

  37. RON ALMAGOR July 21st, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Can we get a boxing match at the new Stadium???

    Some of the greatest fought at the old one…Rocky Marciano and Sugar Ray Robinson to name a few.

  38. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    pat, it’s closer than you think…summer practices start next month!

  39. The Monarch July 21st, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Dutchman,

    They claim the OF dimensions are the same from home plate.

    But the area between home plate and the backstop is less, so that cuts down the amount of space available for the field.

    Seems clear that they intend to push back the fences next year, and this may be the excuse they need (as opposed to acknowledging that the new dimensions are not the same as the old ones.)

  40. pat July 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Hokie

    I have my own way to judge seasons. Football season doesn’t officially begin until baseball rosters expand and doesn’t get into full swing until I wonder whether to put the heat on in the house. :wink:

  41. vinny-b (keep Montero) July 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    “vinny, I wouldn’t mind seeing a VT v Rutgers matchup again. Former Big East foes going at it”

    you just want to see an easy Hokie win.

    j/k : )

  42. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    “the day after this game, they will realize that no one gives a damn about ND football anymore”

    I care…only because I enjoy watching that program drive itself into the ground…

  43. m July 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Good point, Monarch.

    I’m going to miss the launchpad a bit.

    There’s been some good defense on the homestand. In the last two games alone, all 6 runs came via the long ball.

    Just hope they don’t go overboard with their adjustments. Think people would cry foul if we put up our own green monster?

  44. Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    They can’t make adjustments whether they want to or not. If they move the walls back then they lose seats, and thus money and if they make the walls hiigher they’ll block people’s view.

    Expect minor adjustments only.

  45. Shame Spencer July 21st, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    you created all sorts of shenanigans here hokie

    *cough* *cough* i got the black lung, pa.

  46. goirish July 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    “the day after this game, they will realize that no one gives a damn about ND football anymore”

    80,000 people at every ND home game disagree. Just about every road game is sold out. That has been the case for decades. The game at NYS will be a tough ticket to get, guaranteed.

  47. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    I’m sorry that I was born with this perfect bone structure, and that my hair looks better done up with gel than hidden under a stupid hat with a light on it. All I ever wanted was to make you proud miggs!

  48. Tom in N.J. July 21st, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Are Miggs and Hokiehill breakdance fighting?

  49. Uncle Ellsworth July 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Tom in N.J.
    July 21st, 2009 at 12:44 pm
    Are Miggs and Hokiehill breakdance fighting?

    as long as they don’t gasoline fight under the O’Neill Banner we’re safe

  50. Hokiehill July 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Sorry Tom in N.J., I’m not a gymnast.

  51. jonathan July 21st, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Please Read and explain…

    So if that layout is true then it looks like the dimensions at the stadium are clearly mislabeled.

    If one end zone ends at home plate.

    And the other looks like it is about 20 feet from center field wall lets do the math.

    Endzone = 10 yards = 30 feet

    Field 100 yards = 300 feet

    Second end zone 10 yards = 30 feet

    So from home plate that is 360 feet.

    In the diagram it looks like the center of the endzone is on the warning track in center field. Let’s just say that 20 feet of warning track until the wall.

    That’s still only 380 feet. Where do you get the extra 28?

    Also it looks like it would fit much better if one endzone was in left and the other before the yankee dugout.

  52. #23 Hitman July 21st, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Hopefully they’ll be taking out some seats in right field for this!!

  53. dr. evil July 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Great. One of the place kickers will kick a 70 yard field goal and the punter a 90 yard punt proving that Yankee stadium is both a home run hitters park as well as a kicker’s park.

  54. Joe in PA July 21st, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Mark in Tampa

    You’re absolutley right. Lonny boy made that pic in Paint this morning.

    I’m all for a NY Rangers game there in January 2011…

  55. Mel C July 21st, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Yankee stadium will now be a place with hopefully legendary college football games as well as an epic baseball team. I can’t wait to see the game. Check me out on http://twitter.com/Yankeesgirl450 if you want to read more.

  56. Craig July 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    jonathan – remember that a football field is very wide (approx 50 yds i believe) and that at home plate, the field may not be wide enough to accommodate a football field so the back of the endzone would fall between home plate and the pitchers mound

  57. tampayank July 21st, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    surprised by all the College Football hate, for anyone that hasn’t, just attend a big time program game(UF vs LSU in Baton Rouge this fall would fit the bill) and you’re opinion might change forever…the passion and energy is incredible.

    But I do agree that ND-Army is a matchup most of the country doesn’t care about, ND hasn’t done anything in over a decade, their only bowl win in 10 years was against a weak Hawaii team last fall, they can only hold on to their tradition for so long but it will be tough for them to get back to that level b/c all the best athletes want to play in the South or at Southern Cal these days.

  58. Overtake Sawks Tonight July 21st, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    henner July 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am

    thats gonna be great. loved how the bottom of the first was long last night and kay and singleton were running out of questions for the army coach

    _____

    I guess I wasn’t the only one who was cracking up listening to this.. I like Michael Kay.. But he might be one of the worst interviewers of all time. Even on his radio show, he never presses any issue. It’s like he has a list of generic questions and that’s it. At least Singleton tried to bail him out last night when that’s not his job.

  59. Beejay July 21st, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Should be fun watching a football game at the new stadium. The yankees all want the nhl winter classic to play a game at the stadium.

  60. jonathan July 21st, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Craig- Check the diagram provided by the yankees. The back of the endzone is at home plate and the endzone extends into the dugouts somehow. As well as the opposite endzone extending into the bullpens.

  61. Craig July 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    i see what you’re saying – i have no clue how they will make it fit and why they didn’t think of this sooner

  62. John in Ohio July 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Best seats will be the first few rows of the upper deck.

  63. PruBelongs July 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    I’m all for a Rangers game at the Stadium once Sather and Dolan have nothing to do with the team.

  64. Brian July 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    The Hokies don’t belong anywhere near Yankee stadium. Any talk of it is ludicrous-there is a big leap from Notre Dame and Army to Virginia Polytechnic Institute.

    Go Wahoos!

  65. The dood July 21st, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    That juxtaposition is waaaaay off. No stadium in history starts its endzones out at center and home plate.
    One endzone would be in left and the other along the 1st base line. It would fit.

    There is no issue here.

  66. Kev July 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 am

    This would be first true sellout at the new Yankee Stadium. It would be certain those $2000 Legends Seats will be much cheaper for a college football game.

  67. Richard July 23rd, 2009 at 12:04 am

    Why even do this? There’s plenty of football stadiums around that can hold the game *without modifications*. Seems very strange to me.


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