Game 94: Orioles at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 22, 2009 
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YANKEES (56-37)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Gardner CF
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (8-4, 3.81).
ORIOLES (41-52)
Roberts 2B
Jones CF
Markakis RF
Huff 1B
Wigginton 3B
Scott DH
Zaun C
Pie LF
Andino SS
Pitching: RHP Jason Berken (1-7, 6.44).
TIME/TV: 1:05, YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees have won five straight (all since the All-Star break) and 18 of 23 overall. They have moved back into sole possession of first place in the American League East and are undefeated on a homestand that has five games left.
BURNETT VS. BALTIMORE: A.J. Burnett, who lives in Maryland, is 8-1, 4.83 against Baltimore in his career. He faced them once this season, at Camden Yards on April 9. He lasted 5.1 innings and allowed two runs, albeit on seven hits. He walked one and struck out six.
Burnett did not pitch especially well in his first outing after the break, giving up three runs in six innings against Detroit. But he is 4-1 since June 14.
IT STARTS WITH PITCHING: Here’s how the pitching staff has done since the break: 45 innings, 35 hits, 10 runs, 9 earned runs, 18 walks, 37 strikeouts. The Yankees have a 3.66 ERA since May 13.
GARDNER RETURNS: Melky Cabrera (29 of his last 130, 2 of 17 since the break) takes a seat and Brett Gardner is back. Gardner, somewhat curiously, has had only 10 plate appearances in the last eight games.
BULLYING BALTIMORE: The Yankees are 8-3 against the Orioles this season and have won none straight against them in the Bronx. Baltimore is 2-24 in its last 26 road games the division.
WHO IS THIS GUY? Jason Berken, 25, has a 1.64 WHIP in 50.1 innings and was knocked around by the White Sox in his last start. He is a former sixth-round draft choice (2006) out of Clemson.
HIT PARADE: Derek Jeter has 2,650 hits. That’s four fewer than Ted Williams. Yes, I know, Williams went off to war twice. But passing Teddy Ballgame on the all-time hits list is a pretty cool thing.
RELIEVER ROLES: Joe Girardi has his bullpen roles pretty locked down these days.
Rivera: Closer
Hughes: 8th inning with a lead
Coke: Left-handed specialist with a lead
Aceves: Anytime with a lead
Robertson: 5th or 6th inning in losing game that still maybe could be won.
Bruney: Buried. Use only when trailing
Melancon: Killing time until being sent back. They’d probably rather have Albaladejo.
FIREWORKS: The Yankees are 12-5 in July.
HAPPY IN THE BRONX: The Yankees have won 25 of their last 39 games at home.
OK, that’s it for now. Back later with plenty more.
UPDATE, 1:11 p.m.: We’re underway in the Bronx as the Yankees go for the sweep. Enjoy the game wherever you are.
UPDATE, 1:15 p.m.: In case you missed it, the Red Sox obtained 1B Adam LaRoche from the Pirates for two prospects, RHP Hunter Strickland and SS Argenis Diaz. LaRoche has roughly $2.98 million left on his contract for this season.
When did the Pirates become an AL East farm team? I’m probably forgetting somebody, but in the last year they have traded Jason Bay, Xavier Nady, Damaso Marte, Eric Hinske and now LaRoche to the Red Sox or Yankees.
Meanwhile, the Yankees are already smacking around Berken. Three hits in the first inning including an RBI single by A-Rod. 1-0.
UPDATE, 1:33 p.m.: How do people actually become fans of the Orioles? They have not had a winning season since 1997. If I was a kid in Maryland I’d run away from home and find a better team. At least the Ravens are pretty good.
The Yankees are up 4-0. Swisher had a two-run single. The thumping has commenced.
UPDATE, 1:44 p.m.: The Yankees announced some more football games today. Here is the complete schedule:
Nov. 20, 2010: Notre Dame vs. Army
Nov. 12, 2011: Rutgers vs. Army
Nov. 3, 2012: Air Force vs. Army
Nov. 8, 2014: Boston College vs. Army
While it’ll be cool to see football at the Stadium, Army has been a bad team in recent years, going 3-9 last season. If they don’t become more competitive, those games will be routs.
UPDATE, 2:03 p.m.: That nutty Nick Swisher. Screws up a play and then makes a great play to save two runs. Yankees still up 4-0.
UPDATE, 2:09 p.m.: That Posada HR reminds me, how are the Yankees winning all these games and pitching so well without Johnny Bench Cervelli calling every pitch and showing so much energy?
It was comical how people thought Cervelli should be catching ahead of Posada. Maybe someday. Not in 2009.
UPDATE, 2:21 p.m.: So according to this gossip site, Kate Hudson’s friend smashed up A-Rod’s car today. Alex was not in the car at the time, apparently. Meanwhile, all of Minka Kelly’s friends are excellent drivers.
UPDATE, 2:39 p.m.: Yankees still up 5-0. This one has “let’s just get this over with” written all over it. Two more innings out of Burnett and then maybe Bruney or Melancon?
UPDATE, 2:58 p.m.: Berken has actually pitched pretty well since the first inning. But it’s 5-0 after six innings.
UPDATE, 3:12 p.m.: That’s likely it for Burnett as he allows two in the seventh. Now here is the dilemma if you’re Joe Girardi, is a three-run lead enough for Bruney or do you go Hughes and Mo and lock it down?
UPDATE, 3:30 p.m.: Can’t blame Girardi. You need to use your best guys. Hughes delivers yet another scoreless inning. The Yankees are in the business of winning games, not soothing egos. Girardi has his guys and he’s going to use them.
UPDATE, 3:40 p.m.: OK, now you can use Bruney. Posada’s double makes it 6-2.
UPDATE, 3:46 p.m.: Jeter with a chance to bust it open as GGBG loads the bases with an infield hit. Two down.
UPDATE, 3:47 p.m.: Nope. Bruney will get a 6-2 lead. He needs to show them something here.
UPDATE, 3:51 p.m.: Bruney fanned Andino and then threw one halfway up the backstop. But he’s hitting 95.
UPDATE, 3:53 p.m.: Wow, Bruney K’s two guys then gives up a bomb to Adam Jones and one to Nick Markakis.
UPDATE, 3:54 p.m.: Girardi not messing around, Bruney is out. Mariano in for the save.
UPDATE, 3:55 p.m.: This is a waste of an appearance for Mo. Ridiculous that he needs to come into this game. But Girardi can’t take a chance.
UPDATE, 3:59 p.m.: Pump your fist on that, Aubrey.
Weird stretch for the Yankees. Sweep, swept, sweep, sweep. But they’re 20 games over. Now you go for 25. What a success HOPE Week has been.
nice GET THE BROOMS OUT
Lets Go Yanks . .Lets complete the Sweep !
From the other post:
SJ, what about trading for Matt Holliday from the As, he’s a free agent to be and the As arent going anywhere? How likely do you think that is
I feel this is going to be an afternoon slobber-knocker
Congratulations to Ramey and Hokiehill who correctly predicted today’s line up at 9:11 and 9:24, respectively.
This is Ramey’s second correct line up prediction in a row. Let’s see if he can make it a threepeat tomorrow.
Please tune in tomorrow for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line up”
So I think there were multiple people who got the lineup guess right today.
Nice the A lineup and Gardner gets a shot.
I really like this lineup from an offensive standpoint.
Glad to see Gardner getting some playing time. We don’t want him to become rusty, get DFA’d and then have a bitter interview with reporters afterwards.
Erica,
I think I should just retire at two! I’ve made it this far, and I feel I’ve reached my ceiling of lineup predictions. lol
Let’s sweep ‘em… and hope Texas does the same! I can only imagine what that John “Aging Dana Carvey in Drag” Henry will be twittering if they fall 2 games back:)
Ramey
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:00 am
Erica,
I think I should just retire at two! I’ve made it this far, and I feel I’ve reached my ceiling of lineup predictions. lol
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You do seem to have an acute sense of the inner mind of Joe Girardi
“You do seem to have an acute sense of the inner mind of Joe Girardi”
For some reason, I feel like him and I are a lot alike. I mean even so much so that he was my favorite player when I was younger and I had a Joe Girardi t-shirt when I was 12…Yes, they actually made Joe Girardi tshirt’s!
That fondness of him almost makes me feel like I should try and get a dimaggio like streak lol
Ramey-
I would have been proud of a Girardi t-shirt. At some point in the 80′s as a little kid I had a Jack Clark t-shirt. Does it get more random than that?
Go for the threepeat tomorrow. You will never know unless you try
Why play Molina on Monday and have Posada catch a day game after night game? Wouldn’t it have made sense for Molina to play yesterday or today?
Erica -
Was it a Jack Clark t-shirt for when he played for the Yankees that 1 season in 1988?? Because my brother is 29 years old and still has his haha
They’ve won none straight in the Bronx? Yikes
also don’t understand why they are playing Damon in a day game after a night game when he doesn’t seem to be completely right.
Why play A-Rod at third today? Ransom looked so good last night. You have to let Cody really break out and show his limitless potential…
Nary a complaint! Would love to complete the sweep today.
And maybe stay in first for good this time.
I finally figured it out last night. This is the third time we’ve caught Boston this season.
We held first place outright on June 8th, were tied before the Anaheim trip, and this time.
Enough cat and mouse, get a sizeable lead before Boston realizes what hit them. Bay won’t scuffle much longer.
Hinske should be in the lineup with a RHP going for Baltimore. Damon can come off the bench as a PH if needed.
“Why play Molina on Monday and have Posada catch a day game after night game? Wouldn’t it have made sense for Molina to play yesterday or today?”
Because he wants Posada catching CC and AJ as much as possible so when the playoffs come around they’re set as pitcher and catcher tandem.
“Why play A-Rod at third today? Ransom looked so good last night. You have to let Cody really break out and show his limitless potential…”
Thank you for making me laugh so hard I started choking on my coffee
Complaining about the lineup is so much fun. I think everyone on the bench has been complained about now, right? I covered Ransom, someone covered Molina, and someone else complained about Damon which pretty much equals Melky. So, all bases covered.
I know that complaining about the lineup is the “in” thing to do, but I feel strongly enough to voice an opinion this time.
Why not Hinske in place of Swisher in RF? Isn’t 5 for 15 with 4 home runs in 5 games (really 4 games plus one pinch hit AB)good enough? Is Joe upset that Hinske hasn’t had a walk yet?
Swisher could use some time off. He hasn’t been the same since he go hit on the right elbow a while ago. Before that, he was carrying the team.
I feel that Hinske should be used as much as possible at home. He looks so big that even a check swing should make the seats. Just his presence will “upset” the opposing pitcher so he and the batters around him will have an easier time, even if he doesn’t get a hit. This is probably more true with a rookie making his 11th start and his first visit to NY.
The Yankees sometimes have trouble with pitchers they haven’t seen before. Maybe Hinske doesn’t have this problem. I’d like to see.
“also don’t understand why they are playing Damon in a day game after a night game when he doesn’t seem to be completely right.”
Didn’t he just sit 2 games ago?
Thanks for the piggy back ride there Ramey.
No problems with this lineup today (or any of the lineup decisions looking back…we’re in first place! they couldn’t have been that bad!)
Speaking of Damon, he was substituted yet again. Watching highlights I saw that he flubbed another fly ball in the 6th. It may be my imagination, but I don’t remember Johnny being such a bad fielder last season.
Poor, Damon. In the next SI is the players poll. Damon was voted worst OF arm, by a wide margin (54%). The next guy (Pierre?) was 26%.
Hopefully someone other than Jeter will be voted most overated player.
The Red Sox have some issues with there rotation. Beckett and Lester are solid, but Penny, Smoltz, and Wakefield are question marks, and personally I think they are garbage pitchers. Penny like Chamberlain hasn’t gone six innings in a long time, Smoltz is old and coming off major surgery, Wakefield is old and already on the DL, and gives up a ton of base runners and runs. There rotation is older then ours.
And the Red Sox offense is clearly not better then when they had Manny, and compared to the yankees the yankees offense is better.
I predict that the Red Sox bullpen will get worse as the back end of the rotation continues to implode.
What gives ?
No tweets from goofy John Henry ?
Hokiehill-
No problem, it’s the telekinesis I have with Girardi. I know what he’s thinking at all times. Right now he’s thinking of having a bagel, but without cream cheese, too much dairy can be bad.
Agree with Martin RI. Not a complaint, just wondering why Swisher plays more than any other NYY OF. He’s good but not that good. Hinske is no Babe Ruth or gold glover, but the way he’s been hitting I’d get him in the lineup as much as I could to take aim at the RF porch. Go with the hot hitter.
Anyone curious about why Hinske has hit 4 homeruns in 15 at-bats when he only hit 1 in 100+ with the Pirates? Check out Kepner’s blog:
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....mpression/
Trumpetman are you aware that there was a Yankees/Tigers game on Sunday in which Justin “Joba” Chamberlain threw 6.2 innings? It was the first time in a while, but it was accomplished, and it was not the first time ever.
Now is the time to lay tracks over Boston. Wakefield is on the DL, and they’ve gone into a bad stretch. By the time the Yankees face them, they could be able to put a sizable nail in their coffin.
Anyone heard anything about a Matsui trade request rumor??? I heard it on a local radio show (and I stress local) I don’t believe he would would request a trade at this point in his career…
I like Matsui coming off the bench down the stretch for us.
“Anyone curious about why Hinske has hit 4 homeruns in 15 at-bats when he only hit 1 in 100+ with the Pirates?”
Not sure what the article says, but the real answer is obviously that he wants to hear what John’s HR call is going to be!
Matsui asking to be traded makes no sense…he’s not going to go somewhere and play so his situation would likely be similar to what it is with the Yankees…except whichever team the Yankees would trade him to would not have nearly as a good of a chance at getting to/winning in the post season
Bruney certainly has fallen fast. I hope he rebounds because the NYY could use the Bruney who pitched early in the season, before he got hurt.
Hokiehill,
Let’s just say there’s a new member of the the Kevin Long fan club. Can’t imagine why, there’s so many complaints by the smarties here.
Remember when Pete called Hideki a spare part? I mean, I get what he was getting at, but it’s nice to see that Hideki is still contributing.
Ramey
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 am
Erica -
Was it a Jack Clark t-shirt for when he played for the Yankees that 1 season in 1988?? Because my brother is 29 years old and still has his haha
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That would be the very one!!!!! I will be 29 in December
Long is probably one of the more underappreciated pieces of this Yankees team…although I have seen him get props from a few posters on this blog…
“That would be the very one!!!!! I will be 29 in December”
Haaha that’s great!! I’m 5 years younger, so I’m all about the Mel Hall’s and Roberto Kelly’s of our time. Alvaro Espinoza still holds a special place in my heart too.
Surprisingly they made a t-shirt for him in 1991 and I made my parents buy me one. It seems like they will make a t-shirt or jersey for literally any player, ever.
I don’t make a habit of criticizing lineup decisions, but, right now, Swisher shouldn’t be playing any more than necessary at Yankee Stadium. He’s hitting .197 with 3 homers and 11 RBI and a SLG PCT of .323. His walks aren’t helping him that much either, since he’s only scored 15 runs.
hey whose this gardner fellow? Is he new?
Andrew. Yeah sorry I forgot to mention that Chamberlain went past seven innings against the Tigers. And it wasn’t his first time doing it. Just saying that the Red Sox rotation is overrated- they only have two reliable starters(Beckett, Lester) and the rest are question marks. I’m just saying that there isn’t one team that doesn’t have back end of the rotation issues.
Tony Bernazard >>>>>> http://i43.tinypic.com/331ov92.jpg
“Bruney certainly has fallen fast. I hope he rebounds because the NYY could use the Bruney who pitched early in the season, before he got hurt.”
It appears that Girardi lost confidence in Bruney, and with good cause. He hasn’t regained his form, and his mouth writes checks his body can’t cash. The next time you’ll see him is in a blowout game.
Ramey
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 am
“That would be the very one!!!!! I will be 29 in December”
Haaha that’s great!! I’m 5 years younger, so I’m all about the Mel Hall’s and Roberto Kelly’s of our time. Alvaro Espinoza still holds a special place in my heart too.
Surprisingly they made a t-shirt for him in 1991 and I made my parents buy me one. It seems like they will make a t-shirt or jersey for literally any player, ever.
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I am pretty sure they do make those navy t-shirts with the name and number on the back for any player. I always love when I am at the stadium and I see some dude wearing a t-shirt for a totally random player who was a Yankee 15 years ago.
I may have had a Roberto Kelly shirt too. I am not sure when I stopped wearing those t-shirts. Probably in the early 90s. But I did buy a Jeter one the night of Game 1 1996 ALDS. I never bought another one until the Yanks signed Damon
GB7, just about the only argument you could make for playing him is trying to let him work through it…good for Hinske to do enough to warrant his name coming up for significant consideration…complimenting your new hitting coach can’t hurt his chances of getting in the lineup either.
“Anyone heard anything about a Matsui trade request rumor??? I heard it on a local radio show (and I stress local) I don’t believe he would would request a trade at this point in his career…”
It’s not that we wouldn’t, it’s that we can’t, I mean he’s a freaking DH who wants that right now. He’s a PT DH/PH right now.
Hideki Matsui, consummate professional, requesting to be traded? No way, no how.
Remember: believe only half of what you see, and nothing that you hear.
The annoying girl in the cube next to me asked me to lower my iPod speakers. Ugh. This is the same woman, that when she is on hold with the IRS buts them on speaker so I hear orchestra music for 30 minutes.
Little does she know soon she is going to be hearing John Sterling. And no, I will NOT lower it
Brandon,
i think the best part of the story is the fact he took his shirt off before challenging them to a fight. i guess he had to make sure they knew he was serious
Tony Bernazard is a total moron.
“It’s not that we wouldn’t, it’s that we can’t, I mean he’s a freaking DH who wants that right now. He’s a PT DH/PH right now.”
That, and I don’t see how moving would be a benefit to him in anyway…at least not enough of a benefit to warrant a trade request…no team is going to play him everyday in the field if they play him at all…
I’m going to get you Erica! hahahaha!!!
The SI power ranking this week was pretty interesting. The editor included the key player for the second half for each team. Some were obvious, others not so much.
For the AL contenders, here’s mine:
Yankees-CC Sabathia
Boston-Jon Lester
Rays-Scott Kazmir
Tigers-Miguel Cabrera ? (don’t really follow them)
Angels-Bobby Abreu
Texas-Everyday Eddie?
“I may have had a Roberto Kelly shirt too. I am not sure when I stopped wearing those t-shirts. Probably in the early 90s. But I did buy a Jeter one the night of Game 1 1996 ALDS. I never bought another one until the Yanks signed Damon”
Yea, I think the last one I ever had was a mariano duncan. i go for the most odd choices in players i love haha
Now I just stick to my authentic #25 jersey. I could say I wear it for Teixeira, or I could say Giambi, or Girardi, or Tommy John, or even Joe Pepitone. I have limitless options to choose from!
Ramey, I’m not mad at Bernazard, I’m mad at the sissy roster for not taking him on. I mean Tony is what 5’8 ? I’d drop his ass in a heart beat shirt rip or not.:lol:
The annoying girl in the cube next to Erica
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
I’m going to get you Erica! hahahaha!!!
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ROTF!!! I am shaking in my boots
anyone else having posting issues?
nevermind then…
As a tribute to Bernazard, let’s all rip off our shirts at noon today.
I WAS going to introduce you to my good friend, Johnny boy, but that’s off now! oh, and I hate your rain coat
Erica call her a tramp and rip off your shirt Hulk Hogan style.
Hokiehill is the coolest guy EVER btw!
thanks annoying girl…hey Erica, is she hot?
m,
Interesting.
Here are my picks:
Yankees- Joba Chamberlain
Boston- David Ortiz
Rays- Scott Kazmir
Tigers- Magglio Ordonez
Angels- Ervin Santana
Texas- Derek Holland
Basically all guys that have the potential to be great but have underperformed this year.
“The Binghamton Mets clubhouse nearly turned into a scene out of WWE Raw recently, when VP for player development Tony Bernazard removed his shirt and challenged the Double-A players to a fight during a postgame tirade, multiples sources told the Daily News.
Bernazard particularly went after middle infield prospect Jose Coronado, using a slang term associated with a woman’s anatomy, a source indicated. The confrontation happened about 10days before the All-Star break, according to insiders.
It’d be nice to get Bruney throwing well again. It would help out team out a great deal, and would provide a great deal of flexibility if we should have to bring either Hughes or Aceves into the rotation.
And though I’m not as optimistic as I had been, I’m looking forward to how Wang’s shoulder responds when he tries to work out again in a few days.
I’m holding out hope that he could potentially return in September. Him coming back and being effective could be a nice boost during the stretch run.
Fan I., I think you are correct about Bruney. I also think it is his poor performance that has kept PH in the pen more than the “stretching out Hughes” issue. If Bruney were pitching like he did early in the season I don’t think the NYY would hesitate to get PH back in the rotation. Even now, with Mitre, Joe still expressed concern about the SP depth. I think PH and Joba will be SP in 2010. Given Bruney’s injuries ans subsequent struggles these past 2 years I don’t think he can be counted on in 2010. Maybe he’ll rebound but the NYY can’t go into 2010 with Bruney locked into the 8th inning. I don’t think D. Rob, Coke or Melancon are showing enough to get the 8th. Perhaps C-Money will go out and do what the Mets did. Even though it backfired, with Putz being injured, I think getting a 2nd tier team’s closer (George Sherrill for example) is a good way to lock down the 8th and give your closer depth if he needs a day off.
“Anyone curious about why Hinske has hit 4 homeruns in 15 at-bats”
Eric Hinske = Glenallen Hill
anyone following NYY in 2000, will get the reference : )
Hokiehill
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 am
GB7, just about the only argument you could make for playing him is trying to let him work through it…good for Hinske to do enough to warrant his name coming up for significant consideration…complimenting your new hitting coach can’t hurt his chances of getting in the lineup either.
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Maybe so, but, after half a season, it’s just not working. He seems to be suffering from the Giambi Syndrome. He’s infatuated with that short porch. He’s not tearing it up on the road, either but, in basically the same amount of at bats, how many more wins would .266, 11 and 36 bring at home?
yeah, I’m with Patrick on the Yankees pick…although I would say it’s a tie between Joba and Pettitte. If one of those two can pitch consistently well then we have a much stronger rotation and it prevents the pen from being overabused. Of course to argue against my own point, if CC is terrible in the second half it wont matter what Pettitte or Joba do
Was Bernazard mad because the Bing Mets had been 1 – 6 in the past week and he wanted them to not do so well since they were making the big club look bad?
“using a slang term associated with a woman’s anatomy”
Mulva?
Why Swisher? Hinske is so much better against righties. With only those two it shows we need to trade for a vet. How about Carlos Lee?
Ramey-
Out of curiousity, which player was wearing 25 when you actually got the jersey?
““using a slang term associated with a woman’s anatomy”
Mulva?”
My guess is uterus or ovary
I don’t think Bruney was 100% healthy when he came off the DL. All this time off might do him good.
Hokiehill
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
thanks annoying girl…hey Erica, is she hot?
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She is older and definitely a butterface.
And Brandon,
Ummm…. no, that will not be happening
why isn’t Eric Ansky in the lineup?!
Mulva….hahahaha
“Out of curiousity, which player was wearing 25 when you actually got the jersey?”
It was right after we signed Giambi that I got the jersey. I will admit though, that I have a nearly 20 year old #2 shirt and it was for Mike Gallego, not Derek Jeter.
That is cool that Jeter is 4 hits away from tying Ted Williams. Ted Williams was a tremendous hitter. I also read that Jeter already has more 200 hit seasons than any other SS in Major League History. I wonder if #7 could be this year. I truly believe Jeter is under appreciated! He will be sorely missed when he decides to leave Baseball. I hope that is a long time from now.
Here are my picks:
Yankees- AJ Burnett (the same second half dominance of last year?)
Boston- John Smoltz (if he’s bad that so-called pitching depth is no longer close to being deep, it’s two deep)
Rays- David Price (avg. 5 innings per start and loads of walks)
Tigers- Galragga (Verlander and Jackson are a solid two, but what’s after that?)
Angels- Ervin Santana
Texas- Josh Hamilton
“She is older and definitely a butterface.”
I’m too awesome for butterfaces
“And Brandon,
Ummm…. no, that will not be happening”
darn you would have been badass for doing it.
Interesting picks from m and Patrick on the key players for contenders. I like it, mine are:
Yankees-Alex Rodriguez
Who else? But seriously, how his hip holds up and subsequently if his bat holds up along with the hip holds the key to the Yankees’ offensive success. Back of the rotation will continue being inconsistent so they will need offense to win the AL East
Boston-Clay Buccholz
Unfortunate that a 25-year old is hte key player, but he is their #1 trading chip so he could become the key for their 2nd half by way of trade, but now that their rotation is sans Wake, Daisuke he is a key because they need a starter to step up
Rays-Scott Kazmir
They need him to be healthy and become the consistent top of the rotation guy he’s capable of being. They have needed that for a while now, but this year especially considering how strong Bos and NYY are.
Tigers-Magglio Ordonez
Not a great offensive team if he is completely cooked at the plate, as nobody is pitching to Cabrera if he is not at threat anymore. He hit a grand slam last night. If he goes on a tear in the 2nd half they run away with the AL Central and are a little scarier come October.
Angels-Ervin Santana
Pitching staff isn’t what it used to be in Anaheim, so they need him to step up and pitch closer to how he was pitching last year.
Texas-Ian Kinsler
Guy is way too inconsistent for someone with his talent. If Texas is going to fight with the Angels or be in the Wild Card hunt he needs to get hot and stay hot for the entire second half, and avoid injuries which have screwed him up for so many years.
The Bernazard situation happened 10 days before the AS Game and is just coming out now?
He sounds like an idiot but it also sounds like the Mets need a sacrificial lamb and his name is Bernazard.
Trade Predicitions anyone??
Rick.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:22 am
Hinske should be in the lineup with a RHP going for Baltimore. Damon can come off the bench as a PH if needed.
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I agree with this. I think Damons defense in the LF sun warrants a seat on the bench and Hinske deserves a shot to hit one half way to Comiskey.
Lest anyone get offended, CC is not on my list because he’s struggling. Just that we need him to be the ace that he is.
“He sounds like an idiot but it also sounds like the Mets need a sacrificial lamb and his name is Bernazard”
wasn’t he the piece of **** who opted to fire Willie Randolph at 3am, while the team was on the west coast?
Trade Predicitions anyone??
Maybe a few Low – Mid Level pitching prospects for a better utility man – Bill Hall Comes to mind…
vinny – yep, that’s him.
vinny b, you are right about Bernazard. He is also the readon that Delgado did not sign with the Mets originally as a free agent. They ended up getting Delgado via trade but they could have had him sooner.
Adam – i think the Yanks could use one more arm in the starting rotation . somebody like Washburn would be nice
It was right after we signed Giambi that I got the jersey. I will admit though, that I have a nearly 20 year old #2 shirt and it was for Mike Gallego, not Derek Jeter.
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Ramey-
Mike Gallego. That is a random name from the past.
And Brandon-
I am badass anyway
The Yanks actually have a few “super utility” type guys in the minors. Plus, Pena will be back up in a month.
If anything, they’ll pick up a lesser starter or another pen arm. It’s been mentioned before, but it’s important to remember that 7/31 isnt really the trade deadline. A lot of players will get through waivers this year that normally wouldnt have in previous years. Cash can wait to see if Marte can come back and help and he can also wait to see if Mitre fills the 5th spot sufficiently.
“i think the Yanks could use one more arm in the starting rotation . somebody like Washburn would be nice”
Mike-
We already have a washburn type in our rotation, that’s andy pettitte
Yeah Bernazard was pinpointed as the “hatchet man” in the whole Willie Randolph Saga from last summer. I think he is also the one guy that Willie really did not enjoy spending time around, from all the stories that came out back then about Willie’s relationship with the front office. But apparently he is one of Omar’s boys, and apparently he is comfortable enough to operate as though he’s running the organization. It amazes me that Minaya can still keep his job after all this stupidity involving this team, and now the reckless actions of his own “top lieutenants”.
All kind of weird stuff in the news.
1. Poor Erin Andrews. She’s been violated in so many ways. Probably worst of all by the NY Post. Word is that it’s probably someone she knows and very likely works with. Video was taken at 2 different hotels.
2. Ben Roethlisberger is being sued in civil court for sexual assault, and not a single word from the worldwide leader in sports. Their stance? They’re not reporting it because it’s a civil case. That hasn’t stopped them before.
3. Ex-MMA fighter Kimo Leopoldo is alive and well. He was surprised to find out that the media was reporting yesterday that he died of a heart attack.
Keys for second half:
Yankees- Joba, Pettitte (makes rotation deeper, bullpen more effective)
Boston- Ortiz, Drew (need power aside from Bay and Youk)
Rays- Howell (will probably have to close out many saves against the Yanks and Red Sox)
Tigers- Ordonez (offense needs his power)
Angels- Santana (puts their pitching staff over the top)
Erica-
For some reason I’ve always gravitated towards liking the lesser players bc somebody needed to root for them lol. Sure, everybody has their jeter’s or their a-rod’s…But what about the Clay Bellinger’s of the world?
I was heartbroken when the Yankees got rid of Andy Phillips for that same reason haha
No way on Bill Hall to the Yankees, btw. He is owed $8.4 million in 2010. That is way too rich for a guy that is probably on the bench 5-6 days of the week.
SMK
Remember: believe only half of what you see, and nothing that you hear.
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great Springsteen lyric in the song ‘Magic’
I just saw the Erin Andrews video.
Totally Shameless. Utterly Appalling. Unavoidably Titillating (No Pun Intended). Alas, Alack, it captivated me.
Yes, Yes, I recognize some loathsome capitalist parasite invaded her privacy to make a quick buck.
On the other hand, I have a difficult time mustering sympathy for someone, who under the pretense of acting as a serious journalist, allows ESPN to exploit her as a sex object because it advances her career.
90% of the woman who post daily on this blog are more knowledgeable, insightful, and passionate about professional sports than Erin Andrews or for that matter, Bonnie Bernstein.
Something tells me though that notwithstanding, ESPN wouldn’t hire the LoHud Women unless one or more matched Erin or Bonnie in sex appeal.
In my book, that’s the real crime!
M, couldn’t agreee more that something is up with ESPN not reporting on the Rothelsberger story.
Sure. The world wide leader isn’t reporting it because its a civil case. That’s the only reason. No other reason in the world why Ben Rothelsberger’s alleged indiscretion is less news worthy than certain other athletes’ indiscretion.
No reason whatsover.
m:
I think ESPN is holding mum on the Ben case after what happened with the Duke Lacrosse players…there’s no police report to go along with the woman’s complaint. The entire thing is shaky.
That said, I’m more likely to believe the woman.
Ramey-
I was heartbroken when they got rid of Andy Phillips too. But mostly cause I thought he was really good looking
I’m not more likely to believe anybody on the Big Ben case. The whole thing is shaky so until there is hard evidence then I find no reason to believe anybody more than anybody else.
Much older lyric in Smokey Robinson’s ‘I Heard It Through the Grapevine’ – “Son, believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see.”
It’s very simple about Big Ben: There have been no criminal charges. Every other civil suit we’ve seen in the past was paired with a criminal case.
I hate ESPN, but I actually applaud them for not jumping the gun on this like every other news source.
I just find it strange in the Ben case that the accuser is only filing a civil suit and not criminal charges
“On the other hand, I have a difficult time mustering sympathy for someone, who under the pretense of acting as a serious journalist, allows ESPN to exploit her as a sex object because it advances her career.
90% of the woman who post daily on this blog are more knowledgeable, insightful, and passionate about professional sports than Erin Andrews or for that matter, Bonnie Bernstein.
Something tells me though that notwithstanding, ESPN wouldn’t hire the LoHud Women unless one or more matched Erin or Bonnie in sex appeal.
In my book, that’s the real crime!”
I will agree that EA is an attractive woman and that adds to her appeal as a sideline reporter, but after meeting her in person and watching her talk sports on multiple occassions, I will strongly disagree with everything else that you said. Being attractive in no way justifies what she has gone through with this crap…on top of that, being attractive in no way should preclude her from being taken seriously as a reporter/journalist. On top of that your charge that “ESPN wouldn’t hire the LoHud Women unless one or more matched Erin or Bonnie in sex appeal” is quickly rebuffed with one name…Holly Rowe.
Erica-
Somehow, I figured that’d be your reason!! I have you pegged as someone that was pretty sweet on Shane Spencer too…
With all the talk about Halladay who do we really think the Yankees might obtain this season? Personally I think these names are out there are real possibilities:
Scott Linebrink – veteran arm in the pen, still 32, owed over $10 million over the next few years, but reliable and stabilizes the pen this year and going forward. Could pitcj the 7th or 8th. Sox landed Pena from DBacks so have room to make a move, gives them salary relief, history of trades with Cashman.
Washburn – Still owed a good amount of money this year. Solidifies 5th spot. Veteran and durable. Playoff experience. Insurance for Andy P and AJ. Worst case senario will provide the innings needed to keep Joba’s innings low this year. Mariners will not offer arbitration to land picks so if they are out of it they would and should look to move him.
Huston Street – pitching well, free agent. Again offering arbitration means the Rockies might be on the hook for $6 mill plus for a closer which probably won’t happen. They are in the race so may just let it ride out, but certainly could be moved. Would require a nice chip in any package, but imagine a pen now of Hughes, Street, Coke, Mariano, Aceves, Marte. That looks pretty damn solid and rivals the Sox pen for sure.
Jose Guillen – owed $12 next year. Royals are done this year, would love to lose a portion of that money. Has power bat and is capable of batting 5th in this lineup. Yankees need two OFers probably in the offseason. If you pick him up only need one to secure next year so allows some flexability as Nady did last year. Probably would cost almost nothing talent wise from the system. He’s not my favorite, but an option.
Garret Atkins – riding the bench in Colorado. Earns some money this year, arbitration issue in the offseason. Actually can play third base rather than Cody Ransom or Hinske to spell Arod some time. Can bat fifth. .280-.300 hitter with 20 homerun power. Hits lefties.
Justin Duchscherer – coming off the injury and A’s are done. Free agent after the year. Can be dominant both as a starter and out of the pen. Flexability in both spots for the Yankees. Dealing with Beane means it will cost you.
kill schilling
You invaded her privacy as well by viewing it.
Now run a virus scan on your computer because it was reported that some of Andrews videos on the net were infected.
Speaking of the A’s, poor Giambi. Not a good year for the big G.
Ramey
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:49 am
Erica-
Somehow, I figured that’d be your reason!! I have you pegged as someone that was pretty sweet on Shane Spencer too…
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No, I actually didn’t like him. Although, he did fool me into believing he was the greatest hitter of all time that September
Erika, do you like Val Kilmer, because that is who my friends and I say he looks like
kill.schill(ing) –
On the other hand, I have a difficult time mustering sympathy for someone, who under the pretense of acting as a serious journalist, allows ESPN to exploit her as a sex object because it advances her career.
90% of the woman who post daily on this blog are more knowledgeable, insightful, and passionate about professional sports than Erin Andrews or for that matter, Bonnie Bernstein.
Something tells me though that notwithstanding, ESPN wouldn’t hire the LoHud Women unless one or more matched Erin or Bonnie in sex appeal.
In my book, that’s the real crime!
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Thats ridiculous Erin Andrews is not only a pretty attractive woman But she’s also very knowledgable. You can’t look at a pretty women like that and asume she’s just there because of her looks. Thats awful to do . and it sets back the womens movement back about 100 years.
Read an opinion on RAB regarding possibilty of NYY acquiring Justin Duchsherer. Is on DL with bad elbow, hasn’t pitched since last year, has arthritic hip and IBS brought on by anxiety pitching in tough spots. You gotta be kidding me? Why would the NYY want him? Why not just canvass the closest nursing home. They’d no doubt find someone in better shape.
ESPN is in bed with certain players. I lost complete respect for them after the Sosa corked bat incident. They interviewed Sosa right after that and Sosa said he used the bat in batting practice and exhibition games.. Later that night, the interview was re done to only say batting practice.
Rebecca,
ESPN should at least make a mention of the civil suit. That in and of itself is news. They’ve done it with marvin Harrison, and I’m pretty sure they did it when the Browns sued OJ Simpson in civil court. Pretty sure they did this when Randy Moss’s lady friend accused him of physical assault, too. See a pattern there?
If ESPN and espn.com were your only source of news, you’d never know that there was a civil suit. You know how I found out about it? Listening to Sporting News Radio. Of course they were talking about it more from the espn isn’t reporting it angle.
I don’t know all the details, but lots of things going against this lady. Like no criminal report, etc. Without knowing all the details, sounds like a frivolous suit. But if a suit is filed, it’s news. Whether it’s true or not.
ArodMVP217
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
Erika, do you like Val Kilmer, because that is who my friends and I say he looks like
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I like younger Batman era Val Kilmer. He is a mess now
“No, I actually didn’t like him. Although, he did fool me into believing he was the greatest hitter of all time that September”
That’s okay though, as a 13 year old I thought he was the 2nd coming of Babe Ruth haha….I think if Hinske hits 3 or 4 more home runs in the next two weeks, people will start thinking that about him
Rebecca,
The problem with Duke Lacrosse was that the media took the woman’s allegations as being true without strong evidence for doing so. They looked like idiots when the truth came out.
There is nothing wrong with reporting the allegations, as long as you don’t treat them as binding fact. The allegations themselves are news worthy (regardless of their veracity).
As a man, it really seems like our society is very inclined to doubt allegations of sexual assualt. Really, the only shot a woman has is if the alleged assailant is of a different race.
I will admit her story seems very implausible and the lack of acriminal complaint is rather puzzling, but I’m amazed how sure everyone is that she’s lying.
While we’re talking aabout ESPN I have to say I don’t like ESPN’s Inside the Lines because Skip Bayless is a nutcase who takes certain opinions ONLY to be controversial, for example calling Tiger Woods unclutch (laughable), hating the Yankees (rolls eyes predictable), absolutely adoring the Red Sox (again, no surprises there) and hating Lebron James (rolls eyes predictable).
Glad Pete went on the show though.
I find this Erin Andrews thing very disturbing. She is someone I really admire and this is just an all out disrespect of her basic rights.
She may be pretty, but she knows her stuff too. She doesn’t ask just fluffy questions, she asks good ones.
I even enjoyed her backstage coverage during the National Spelling Bee
Val Kilmer was best in Willow. I fell in love with him then. Now? He’s just old. lol.
Ill take Atkins and Street or ill take Washburn and Batista/Lowe/Aardsma please
M,
In every case you mentioned there were criminal charges besides the civil suit. In some of those cases the criminal charges were eventually dropped, but they were there to begin with.
Trust me, there is no grand conspiracy here. ESPN lives off of the negative. They would like nothing more than to have their retired lawyer camped outside Pittsburgh or Nevade reporting on this.
Ramey
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:55 am
“No, I actually didn’t like him. Although, he did fool me into believing he was the greatest hitter of all time that September”
That’s okay though, as a 13 year old I thought he was the 2nd coming of Babe Ruth haha….I think if Hinske hits 3 or 4 more home runs in the next two weeks, people will start thinking that about him
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Sounds like April Nick Swisher
“I just find it strange in the Ben case that the accuser is only filing a civil suit and not criminal charges”
I don’t like it because it makes it look like she’s looking to get paid. It’s possible that the DA told her that there wasn’t enough evidence for a conviction; I don’t know. I do know that if someone rapes you, call the police so that they can be arrested and spend many years in jail. Having them write you a check isn’t punishment enough for the crime.
Erica-You actually watched the National Spelling Bee?
“I like younger Batman era Val Kilmer. He is a mess now”
He’s still a sweet actor, I saw the movie he just did with Curtis “50 Cent” Jackson. kind of unrealistic, but Val did all he could do + a cajun/southern accent
Peter, steer clear from the snarky comments about Melancon. Maybe if the Yanks gave him a chance, he could show that he can pitch. Even if they had Alby, he wouldn’t be used either. So no need to put Mark’s talent down like that.
Adam LaRoche supposedly traded. Doubt it’s too the Yanks, but whenever it’s Pittsburg I always hold my breath. Maybe they want Igawa to fill out their Scranton AAA pithcing staff
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:59 am
Erica-You actually watched the National Spelling Bee?
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YES!!!! I love the Spelling Bee. Those kids are so awkward looking and wonderful little geniuses. I actually cry when they cry.
Plus, I am an avid Scrabble enthusiast and sometimes I learn great new words by watching the spelling bee
By the way, Joe Gordon is being inducted into the HOF, he was a great Yankee second baseman during the dynasty years of the 40′s.
It’s a good start, now they need to NOT induct Jim Rice (a joke) and induct Allie Reynolds and Gator.
If one doesn’t have the decency to avoid participating in the violation of a woman’s privacy, one should at least have the sense to avoid boasting about it on a public forum. And the attempted suck-up to the women who post here does nothing except expose your hypocrisy. (Plus, you has no credibility on that front until you can respond to a woman you disagree with by attacking the argument, not the woman – i.e. without referring to women’s health products).
Country Club,
Okay, I can accept that.
But how can a civil case against a athlete/celebrity not be news?
Of course it could be false and/or dropped later, but it’s news now.
This is not a girl calling up her girlfriend and making up stories. She has an attorney, and filed suit in a court of law.
Not saying it’s true, but it is news.
Adam Laroche has been traded.
Erica-As much as I like Scrabble every time I try and watch the Spelling Bee I find myself strting to drop off and have to change the channel.
“Sounds like April Nick Swisher”
Yep. When somebody unexpected gets hot and starts hitting bombs left and right, people start adorning them as something they aren’t. It happened with Spencer, Glenallen Hill and Swisher, it could happen to Hinske too.
I know it happened to Kevin Maas. His rookie season he burst onto the scene with like 20 homers in 70 games, then the next season he barely batted above .200 and was out of baseball within 3 years.
Granted, that being said, if Hinske wants to hit 15 home runs in the next 3 months, I will be the first to start calling him Homering Hinske or something just as cheesey
I love that MBLTradeRumors.com says Adam LaRoche has been traded, but not to WHO…
By the way, when I worte a joke in parenthesis I meant that Jim Rice’s induction in the HOF is a joke and it should never happen.
Linebrink: owed too much money for too little production. The Yankees aren’t taking bad contracts on ANYBODY who can’t produce. Especially bullpen guys.
Guillen: Nothing but trouble. A Sheffield-like attitude minus the production. Also has a bad contract. Pass.
Street is not on the market. Neither is Washburn as of today.
Atkins has been scouted by everybody and nobody convinced they can get his bat speed to what it was in the past. Again, too much money for too little production.
JS is one of those 2010 options, IF he is healthy. Big if.
There aren’t a lot of options, absent Halladay, on the trade front.
That’s why they will solve their problems from within before taking on money for below average players.
worte is wrote.
“It’s very simple about Big Ben: There have been no criminal charges. Every other civil suit we’ve seen in the past was paired with a criminal case.
I hate ESPN, but I actually applaud them for not jumping the gun on this like every other news source.”
ESPN is protecting a player they have a business relationship with and they’ve done that with other players, they’ve been in bed with.
Williams didn’t have more base hits than he did for two reasons: (1) as you already mentioned, he missed almost FIVE full seasons to WWII and Korea (played a total of 43 games in the two Korea seasons), AND (2) he drew a TON of walks: in 9791 plate appearances, he took 2021 walks, for a .206 ratio of walks per PA; in comparison, in 9501 PA (almost as many as TW), Jeter has drawn only 856 walks, an .090 ratio.
IOW, if TW had been hacking away like Jeter & only taken fewer than half as many walks as he did, AND if he’d managed the same batting average that he did (.344), he would have had a few tons more base hits. (In fact, easy to calculate: .344 x 1200 AB’s [rough estimates here] would yield roughly 344+68=412 more hits, grand total 2654+412=3066 hits.)
My first paragraph is sheer fact. My second is open to debate, especially since he would have been swinging at worse pitches. But still. . . .
Do you feel like you’ve won the lottery if you’re a Pirate and you just found out you’ve been traded?
Pete confused on the stats ~since the break~,because you end with since may 13(which is before the beake).I thought the Yankees Era was was one point something, since the break.Would you clarify please?
Some team is going to get the streakiest offensive first baseman in all of baseball. Their fans will be annoyed to no end for 2 weeks, but also very pleased for 2 weeks.
Sorry, Hokie, Erin Andrews has never impressed either as a journalist, sports authority, or a woman of gravity, and if you think ESPN hired her for any of those reasons, I’m not going to argue with you.
As for Holly Rowe. Let’s put it this way. While no one is going to nominate Holly for Homecoming Queen, quite a few men wouldn’t complain if they awakened beside her.
Here’s another example to illustrate my point. Do you think it’s a coincidence that Lori Rubinson, one of the most knowledgeable and passionate female voices in New York sports is on radio?
Closer to home, do you think it’s a coincidence that the YES Network replaced Suzyn Waldman with Kim Jones? You may not care for Suzyn as a color commentator, but her knowledge of baseball and the Yankees dwarfs that of most broadcast journalists and certainly, Kim Jones.
Do you don’t think YES hired Kim Jones for her baseball acumen? When was the last time you heard Blondie ask a trenchant question, by the way?
How could anybody not like the spelling bee?? I still remember the year that one kid dropped like a ton of bricks then got back up like nothing happened
“Do you feel like you’ve won the lottery if you’re a Pirate and you just found out you’ve been traded?”
Only if you haven’t been traded to the Nats. LOL!
LaRoche traded …but where.
Sox would sure like to have him.
Alex putting his money where his mouth is when it comes to good dental hygiene.
http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=10770123
kill.schill(ing), really bringing blatant sexism into the 21st century with a bang.
KS,
You’re voilating the Kim Jones rule. And given what you’ve shared this morning (ICK), you have a lot of gall to comment on anyone looks. Why don’t you work on your own character issues first?
Phil G-Williams was an outstanding player and probably a better hitter than Joe D (I only say probably because if Joe D had played in Fenway being the line drive hitter that he is the green monster would have cut down his home runns but raised his average, and for Teddy Ballgame if he played in Yankee Stadium his avg. would have dropped but his HR’s would have went up). IMO if Joe D played in fenway Park he probably could have hit 400. But that’s open to debate.
In all facets of the game (besides hitting) Williams was not as good as Joe D, but it is an absolute crime that the year he hit 406 he didn’t win MVP, hitting streak or no hitting streak. As much as I love Joe D, that’s a crime.
I’m hearing LaRoche to the Giants.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Erica-As much as I like Scrabble every time I try and watch the Spelling Bee I find myself strting to drop off and have to change the channel.
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To me the spelling bee is less about words and more about how much I love watching those kids. They are all very awkward lookign and they get so excited/sad. Its really amazing to watch them. Especially since I could never spell those words
I wish they still televised the Srabble championships
“Sorry, Hokie, Erin Andrews has never impressed either as a journalist, sports authority, or a woman of gravity, and if you think ESPN hired her for any of those reasons, I’m not going to argue with you.
As for Holly Rowe. Let’s put it this way. While no one is going to nominate Holly for Homecoming Queen, quite a few men wouldn’t complain if they awakened beside her.
Here’s another example to illustrate my point. Do you think it’s a coincidence that Lori Rubinson, one of the most knowledgeable and passionate female voices in New York sports is on radio?
Closer to home, do you think it’s a coincidence that the YES Network replaced Suzyn Waldman with Kim Jones? You may not care for Suzyn as a color commentator, but her knowledge of baseball and the Yankees dwarfs that of most broadcast journalists and certainly, Kim Jones.
Do you don’t think YES hired Kim Jones for her baseball acumen? When was the last time you heard Blondie ask a trenchant question, by the way?”
Waldman left YES because George gave her an opportunity to be the first woman baseball announcer. However, with that said, I agree with most of your other points.
kill.schill, not a big fan of your posts today.
You are making the assumption that ugly women are all smart and beautiful women are all stupid. How do you know if Suzyn Waldman has more baseball knowledge than Kim Jones? From what I’ve heard, it’s the exact opposite. Jones is awesome on the radio and it has nothing to do with her appearance.
Erin Andrews is smoking hot but by all accounts she also has a lot of sports knowledge and she’s good at what she does.
kill.schill(ing)-I totally, totally disagree. Completely. Suzyn Waldman is a joke, Kim Jones is WAY smarter than her.
This is not sexism, I just don’t like Waldman as a commentator or baseball “person”. Interpret that as you wish.
I can’t recall invoking women’s health products to respond to a woman’s argument, Clare, nor engaging in gratuitous ad hominem attacks. I try to refrain from the latter. It’s a classic logical fallacy.
And quite frankly, I don’t feel compelled to ingratiate myself with you or any other female Lohud poster (except Rebecca). I just happen to find it criminal that TV networks don’t unattractive female journalists or like Jane Pauley, retire them after they advance beyond a certain age.
Regardless, I’m not going to apologize for enjoying the EA video or for any other prurient, indecent, or obscene video of attractive, naked women. Sorry.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger-I agree. That is completely unfair to Jones. She is a very smart woman.
Mike RI-
Yanks tried to get washburn last year and the clowns who run the marinwers wanted hughes for washburn…
And if they wanted someone good from the Mariners, maybe a deal for bedard can be worked out. Maybe McCalister and Igawa??
Not sure i want to give up any of our young pitching for one of those guys though… lets give Joba a Chance…
It’s very simple about Big Ben: There have been no criminal charges. Every other civil suit we’ve seen in the past was paired with a criminal case.
I hate ESPN, but I actually applaud them for not jumping the gun on this like every other news source.
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Doesn’t matter that there are no criminal charges, it hasn’t stopped BSPN in the past from other cases. But now, not a word? Something fishy going on in Bristol.
“Only if you haven’t been traded to the Nats. LOL!”
Lol. Poor Nyjer Morgan. His career can only go up from here.
“I’m hearing LaRoche to the Giants.”
I didn’t know that the Pirates traded with anyone other than the Yankees
just heard you on espn pete. nice job
“Regardless, I’m not going to apologize for enjoying the EA video or for any other prurient, indecent, or obscene video of attractive, naked women. Sorry.”
get a life and get of this board.
What does EA’s abilities as a sports journalist have to do with what happened to her?
Nothing. That is besides the point. Focus, people, focus.
EA’s privacy was violated. She was behind closed doors. If she was doing a photo shoot or was scantily clad in public, then maybe, maaaybe KS has a point.
But nobody deserves what happened to EA. No matter what they do for a living. No matter if they’re qualified in someone’s opinion or not.
kill.schill(ing)-I understand your points and don’t think you’re sexist. I just disagree with them.
It seems as if you’re assuming that ugly women are smarter than pretty women. Sorry, but I’d rather have a baseball conversation with Kim Jones than Suzyn Waldman, and I’ talking about if we were seperated by a screen and I couldn’t see either one. Kim Jones is very intelligent.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
By the way, Joe Gordon is being inducted into the HOF, he was a great Yankee second baseman during the dynasty years of the 40’s.
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he also owned a bowling alley on Utica Avenue near Kings Hwy in Brooklyn in the ’50′s and early ’60′s. Gil Hodges Lanes wasn’t far from there either and Gil would often be working behind the desk in the offseason.
Washburn tanked last year in the 2nd half and his peripherals this year do not come close to matching his ERA. Be very careful about wanting this guy. He plays in a pitcher friendly park right now and we all know that’s not what the new stadium is currently.
Suzyn Waldman was kicked upstairs to WCBS because YES wanted to replace her with someone with more sex appeal. Go read Neil Best or Bob Raissman.
If you’d listened to Suzyn Waldman cover the Yankees for WFAN for fifteen years, her grasp of baseball and her diligence in pursuing a story would be self-evident.
Adam Laroche Traded to red sox via mlbtraderumors…well there goes the season…
Adam Laroche Traded to red sox via mlbtraderumors…well there goes the season…
If Pete deems discussing Kim’s looks inappropriate here because she’s a colleague, I have to think the same courtesy should be afforded to Ms. Andrews here.
Attention Val Kilmer Fans!
Watch – Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
SJ44 — Any thoughts on the Tony Bernazard sideshow? Does he have a rep in baseball for being as nuts as he sounds? And if so, what does it say about the Mets that he’s got as much responsibility as he does?
laroche to the red sox
KS,
You made a Monistat 7 reference in response to one of my posts. I remember it because I decided not to read or respond to your posts because of it. However, I felt compelled to respond to you today because bragging that you participated in the perverted exploitation of EA is NOT acceptable, and that you would so casually brag about it is disturbing.
I’m not asking you to ingratiate yourself with anyone. But a little common decency (or even a tiny bit of discretion) would be nice.
Wonders what Red Sox gave up for Laroche
What a Panic move.
kill.schill(ing)-Yeah, I HAVE listened. Personally I think that she’s just copying what every other broadcaster says.
Whatever the reason she was replaced, it is not Kim Jones’s fault, and it’s unfair to call her a dumb blonde. Read her blog, listen to her on the radio, read some of her interviews with Pete and you’ll find she’s very intelligent when it comes to baseball.
WE MUST RESPOND TO THE LAROCHE TRADE WITH HALLIDAY + HOLLIDAY + LEE
True, Teddy Ballgame did go to war twice, but also played in parts of 19 seasons, Jeter’s only in his 15th season. Say what you will about comparisions, but realize you are watching someone special play in your lifetime.
kill schill,
Sorry, but espn themself have quite a few butterfaces they put out there.
They’ve covered the NBA finals, they do team reports from NFL complexes. They host sportscenter and sit at the news desks.
They’re quite prominent on the 4-letter network.
It’s fine to appreciate EA’s attributes, but I think she deserves some modicum of respect.
Laroche is now a red sox. That’s okay he’s not totally great anyways…but it shows that they are getting desperate and worried in boston!
HALLADAY…sorry i hate that
I like Kim Jones, however, baseball isn’t her forte as I think she is more knowledgeable about football.
“laroche to the red sox”
Somehow i’m not scared. I’d rather they trade for laroche than get victor martinez.
Laroche to the Sox?
Wow that sucks.
Corresponding move by Cash coming…think Bay-Nady.
Lowell must be cooked for them to make this trade.
Wonder what they gave up.
Wonder if this takes them out of additional trade scenarios.
“Kim Jones is very intelligent.”
That may be true, but her interviews leave much to be desired. If I’m looking for deep, probative questions, she’s not on my “go to” list. Not sure what you men see in her; I don’t think she’s all that great looking. Same for Erin Andrews. I also think I know more about baseball than the both of them put together.
S.A.:
Name one civil suit that ESPN reported on that didnt also include criminal charges at one point. You wont find one…at least not in the past few years.
As I’ve said earlier, the fact that Ben is going to be on 1 episode of some Shaq/ABC show would not stop them from reporting on this story. They LOVE negative stories. We all know negative stories get more eyes than positive ones (don’t ask me why).
so how does LaRoche, a first baseman, going to the Sox make them better unless Lowell or Youkilis sits down?
I don’t care if it shows they’re getting worried or not, it just makes an excellent team in the Sox even better…gonna make the division that much harder to win.
The Sox have a .227 BA in July. If LaRoche is the best they can do I’m not worried.
kill.schill you aren’t a YES executive, you don’t know why they got Kim Jones.
m,
kill.schill said, “On the other hand, I have a difficult time mustering sympathy for someone, who under the pretense of acting as a serious journalist, allows ESPN to exploit her as a sex object because it advances her career.”
So he’s saying we shouldn’t have sympathy for her because she already ALLOWS herself to be exploited. We are arguing that no, she does not in fact allow herself to be exploited and that we should feel sympathy for what happened to her.
And just to be clear, Erin Andrews in the end will benefit from this whole thing. More people know who she is now and it’s not like she was embarrassed by the video.
“WE MUST RESPOND TO THE LAROCHE TRADE WITH HALLIDAY + HOLLIDAY + LEE”
Dude shut up. And no we don’t. That move show they are desperate.
I just got my invitation to be an inaugural member of Yankees Universe. Are they kidding me! Yankees Universe. What is that, cousin to Red Sox Nation? I have always thought that RSN was one of the most pathetic “entities” on earth. A cloying little society of nothings.
Okay, I’m joining. I like being an inaugural member. I even get a membership card!
Seriously, as sad as it is, I am joining up1
Laroche to the Red Sox – courtesy of MLBtrade rumors
Laura-On postgame she has to ask “bubble gum pop” questions, YES requires it of her. Like Kay for example. Outside of that she sounds much smarter.
LaRoche in Boston should be interesting, and it makes me think Lowell is going back to the DL. Can’t wait for Peter Gammons to spin this as the move that puts Boston over the top, which it most certainly does not. LaRoche and Jason Bay, so the Red Sox and Yankees are pretty much vying to collect as many former Pirates as possible.
Small sample sizes, but LaRoche career at Fenway:
0-11
A few other good stats, this season LaRcohes is putting up some Cano-eque numbers in the clutch:
RISP: 18-84 (.214)
RISP 2 out: 11-52 (.212)
Bases loaded: 0-6
Enjoy Sox
Excuse me *LaRoche
Sorry about that
Brandon…it was a joke…almost as big of a joke as the thought of you being “awesome”
I know you have this inexplicable hate for Melky, but Jesus, do your job. One trip to BR would show you that Gardner is hitting an abysmal .244 against left handers while Melky is hitting .266. They are saving your boyfriend from getting embarrassed and sent down to the minor leagues.
And let’s not forget that that is Melky’s WEAKER side. And he isn’t getting the chance to hit his stronger side because of an incredible, unwarranted desire to see the 4th outfielder play.
In every sideline report I’ve ever seen EA in, she’s dressed very conservatively. She doesn’t flirt like some female reporters.
I can’t see it. And even if she got to where she is because of her looks, that doesn’t make what happened to her any more justified. She deserves sympathy as much as the next person.
“Laura-On postgame she has to ask “bubble gum pop” questions, YES requires it of her. Like Kay for example. Outside of that she sounds much smarter.”
OK. I haven’t had much exposure to her outside of YES. I think she does pretty well when she’s subbing on the FAN.
This is the epitomy of my life. You dont even know half the comments I get from guys initially and how they discredit the knowledge I have about baseball. Typically the worst is from young guys in their early 20′s or so, but luckily it isnt too bad. Dont judge someone based on their looks, just because I am a girl, doesnt mean I am a Jeter fangirl that knows nothing about baseball. Guys tend to not give me a chance initially but after i start talking baseball they realize I know my stuff and put aside the seixst nonsense. This is the very reason I love going to Tampa for ST because people always give me a chance and I have had some great baseball conversations and met some great people while down there.
Kill, I dont disagree with everything you stated, but I have to disagree with your assessment about Kim Jones. Shes very knowledgeable about baseball and is great at her job. I was never a fan of Erin Andrews, but I feel for what she is going through.
I’m not going all Yankee-esque on this move. If anything it makes the Sox bench deeper. Good move for Boston.
This move by itself in no means gurantees anything, but it doesn’t help us and I don’t like it.
Tony B is a laughingstock around baseball. He’s always had a Napoleon complex.
What should have happened is, that prospect should have kicked the crap out of him in front of the entire team.
That would have made it more of a joke than his attempted fight already is.
He’s assembled the worst farm system in baseball. If they have 3 legitimate prospects in that organization, they will be lucky.
All of the teams, and most of the players, are underperforming. That falls within his job responsibility. That’s why he lost his mind.
“Brandon…it was a joke…almost as big of a joke as the thought of you being “awesome” ”
Ouch, Brandon just got owned
Melky has shown what he is over the past four years. It’s long past time to let someone else play for awhile.
Give It A Rest Pete-Limited sample size against lefties for Gardy. Also if you look at the numbers Melky has been in a pretty bad nosedive.
Adam LaRoche is a guy with a sub 800 .OPS. He’s hitting .247.
It shows they have no faith in Lowell staying healthy. Nothing more.
Why would the Yankess have to respond to that?
Lets not wake up a sleeping Giant.
Lets not turn into Met Fans.
Worry about your own team. Lets be happy with first and see how we can stay there.
Forget the Sox! Lets worry about our own team.
LaRoche to the Sox doesnt make them better at all. He has a career .338 OBP and is hitting .247 this year. I’m actually surprised they picked him up considering his OBP. He’s really not their type of player.
“Can’t wait for Peter Gammons to spin this as the move that puts Boston over the top, which it most certainly does not. LaRoche and Jason Bay, so the Red Sox and Yankees are pretty much vying to collect as many former Pirates as possible.”
Peter Gammons on RS acquiring Laroche: An unbelieveable move by the RS organization, here they were looking for a LHB for the 1B position, that could, field, hit and run, Laroche gives you all of that plus he is a great leader in the clubhouse. I talked to a Pirates official and they said Adam is a winner, he has been hampered a bit w/ fatigue issues and really wanted out of PIT, this move puts great defense at 1st and 3rd for the RS, Theo Epstein deserves a star.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
- IF this is there only move.. than i’m fine with it. It could have been Victor Martinez.
Just because you add a player doesn’t make you a better . Who knows how he’ll turn out.
i’m over it
Laroche’s career splits
Pre all-star break: .773 OPS
Post all-star break: .901 OPS
It’s a smart move by Theo assuming they didn’t give up much.
Mark your calendars…
Rutgers/Army football at Yankee Stadium November 12, 2011.
Laroche is a “lightning in a bottle” Hinske style pickup.
Adam Laroche, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Adam Laroche is still playing?
SJ44,
How’s Tony’s hand?
Christina,
I agree with everthing you just said. Some of the best baseball conversations or sports conversations in general are with some of my female friends. A couple of them try to learn twice as much, because they feel they need to, just for some people to take them seriously.
LaRoche is an upgrade over Kotsay.
He’ll play 1st vs righties and they’ll probably send youk to 3rd.
“Ouch, Brandon just got owned”
nothing new.
How is this a “good move” for Boston? Not every trade is a “good move”.
Adam LaRoche is, at best, a very streaky hitter. At worst, he’s a bad hitter.
He’s very good defensively. That’s it.
That means Mike Lowell isn’t healthy. That’s bad news for the Sox because a Lowell-Youkilis lineup is much better than a Youkilis-LaRoche lineup.
What it shows is, there is very little of value on the trade market for teams looking for a bat.
Dear Valued Board Posters:
Hope all is well. This post is in regards to my earlier comment which stated that we “MUST RESPOND TO THE LAROCHE TRADE WITH HALLIDAY + HOLLIDAY + LEE”. It was a joke. I apologize for any confusion or anger this may have caused. In the future, I will be sure to be more responsible with my posts, including, but not limited to, stating “sarcasm” at the end. I hope this helps. Once again, my sincerest apologies.
Very Truly Yours,
Hall of Famer Ruben Sierra
Ahh, you guys are forgetting the Red Sox Postulate.
Any player who puts on a Red Sox uni instantly becomes a clutch player.
“Brandon…it was a joke…almost as big of a joke as the thought of you being “awesome””
This coming from a poster who uses “Ruben Sierra” as his screen name
Mike RI-My guess is he becomes a pinch hit type of bench player who could spell in at third occasionally to give Lowell a rest.
Good move for the Sox, deepens their bench.
I still say expect a corresponding move by Cash; think Bay-Nady.
Yea because up until yesterday Melky wasn’t hitting .306/.370 in his last 14 days right?
No one in the system is allowing Melky (who is younger than Gardner) a chance to properly develop. He hits BOTH sides better than Gardner, and he isn’t given a chance to develop. But whatever, this has been beaten to death. I stopped coming here because of Fat Man’s ridiculous bias against Girardi, A-Rod, and now Melky. Can’t wait until the man gets fired.
Giuseppe Franco
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Melky has shown what he is over the past four years. It’s long past time to let someone else play for awhile.
(100% Correct Giuseppe) Fish or Cut bait. Lets give the kid a chance.
“so how does LaRoche, a first baseman, going to the Sox make them better unless Lowell or Youkilis sits down?”
Just for the heck of it I checked the top 250 ESPN Fantasy Ratings for the second half to see where LaRoche was ranked. He comes in at #123. For some reason I don’t think player 123 really shakes things up that much!
Okay, so if he was rated #1 I still wouldn’t be breaking a sweat. On top of it, I would have greater difficulty breathing if say they went out and traded for a really good pitcher. 1B? NBD.
LaRoche is another Hinske…. a marginal piece to improve their depth when Lowell goes on the DL.
Home BA .338
Away BA .159
The dude cant hit outside of Pitt…….
SJ44-I think it’s a Hinske type “lighning in a bottle” bench player move.
I look at it as, Wif he were traded to the Yanks would I like the trade? The answer is yes. He can have good pop to the bench, which that lineup needs. I think it’s a good move. Not a crushng move or a “put them over the top” move, but a solid move.
Sox acquiring LaRoche > Sox acquiring V-Mart/A-Gonz
Name one civil suit that ESPN reported on that didnt also include criminal charges at one point. You wont find one…at least not in the past few years.
As I’ve said earlier, the fact that Ben is going to be on 1 episode of some Shaq/ABC show would not stop them from reporting on this story. They LOVE negative stories. We all know negative stories get more eyes than positive ones (don’t ask me why).
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Oh you mean like this? There was a police report but the DA decided to no pursue the matter and he did not face any criminal charges. Or does it not count?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/.....id=4219580
NFLN even talked about the Big Ben stuff and not a blurb from the world wide leader in sports
to no=to not
Give It A Rest Pete-Did you ever stop to consider that we all just have different opinions than you do? Including Pete? That he’s not “biased” against anybody but has his own opinions, different from yours? Just saying…
“Sorry, Hokie, Erin Andrews has never impressed either as a journalist, sports authority, or a woman of gravity, and if you think ESPN hired her for any of those reasons, I’m not going to argue with you.”
We may be coming from very different perspectives on EA’s journalistic ability. I’ve seen very little of her in her baseball role and A LOT of her coverage of college football…I have been very impressed with her in that regard. Trying to argue Holly Rowe’s attractiveness completely lost the argument for you IMO….Shelley Smith is another name that comes to mind…
“Here’s another example to illustrate my point. Do you think it’s a coincidence that Lori Rubinson, one of the most knowledgeable and passionate female voices in New York sports is on radio? ”
I’m not going to argue with you that attractiveness plays a role in helping women get on TV vs radio. Regardless, that does not mean that women TV reporters are no-knowledge bimbos that deserve to go through this kind of crap…Suzyn Waldman shouldn’t be on television or radio so get that out of here too…
Its not a smart move, its a desperate move.
Don’t quote stats without any context. Its not impressive.
He has a couple of hot second halves for bad teams. You know what that tells you? He erratic and inconsistent.
He’s nothing special.
Clare,
He’s ok. Got an X-Ray yesterday and it was clean. He’s cleared to play and I think he will be in the lineup tonight.
People should read Sherman’s 3 up 3 down. Had a good piece on ARod and his basic non-existent ego since the offseason.
Pete-
Despite your hate for A-Rod, you have to give it to the guy for staying out of the limelight despite the PED issue in the offseason.
That was the biggest story in baseball this offseason, and, now, nothing more than an afterthought.
In addition to performing better than expected after coming off hip surgery, Alex has been the opposite of his first 5 years with the Yanks.
Maybe he read SJ’s “shut up and play the game” comments all off season. Either way, glad he has decided to go that route. both his performance and team chemistry has been better because of it.
LaRoche’s home/away splits will fit right in with his new teammates on the Red Sox! I wonder if Dustin is already on the phone giving LaRochse advice about how to flick the ball just perfectly to that it bangs midway up off the Mahnsta?
Melky hasn’t been properly developed?
He’s had four years to take a stranglehold of the CF job and hasn’t done it.
How is that anyone else’s fault but Melky’s?
He is what he is. Let Gardner play for awhile.
For all those who are embarrassed about Randy Levine…. take a look at Bernazzard.
This is a Hinske type move. We all thought Hinske was a good move, why should we not call this a good move? Not a GREAT move, but it deepens their bench and gives them a bit more pop.
Theo is going to make a major move this is a bench move.
Ruben Sierra is the greatest pinch hitter. EVER. Look it up.
Actaully I’d rather A-Rod became a media magnet again if he starts hitting like he did in 07′.
kill.schill(ing)
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 am
I just saw the Erin Andrews video.
Get a life! Your unabashed ignorance serves no purpose! Do you ever think men were ever hired because of their looks or persona? These people have worked hard and earned whatever positions they have. You on the other hand represnet the type of people who caused this crap to start with. I hope the virus chokes your computer so much that you become a Red Sox fan! Please change your name when you come back as I don’t care to see it again!!
LaRoche is no threat. None.
.247/.329/.441 with 12 HR. Due $7mill/yr.
What this deal says to me is Mike Lowell is done.
Adam LaRoche hit .166 as a bench player last year. This move isn’t even worth discussing.
Anyone else feel jealous that Theo’s in bed with the Pirates? Betrayed?
“How is this a “good move” for Boston? Not every trade is a “good move”.
Adam LaRoche is, at best, a very streaky hitter. At worst, he’s a bad hitter.
He’s very good defensively. That’s it.
That means Mike Lowell isn’t healthy. That’s bad news for the Sox because a Lowell-Youkilis lineup is much better than a Youkilis-LaRoche lineup.
What it shows is, there is very little of value on the trade market for teams looking for a bat.”
SJ – forgive them for they know not what they do…
There are posters who are automatic RSPrs. Red Sox Panickers. Anything and everything the Sox do will send them into a tailspin.
I am with you on this. LaRoche isn’t going to do enough to make the difference that the panic-prone are fearing. But you’ll never convince them of that so no need to try. All you can do is to continue to enjoy the season on your own terms.
Nobody else think that after we added 400 million in the offseason and stole their prime FA target right from under their noses has left them primed for a major acquisition?
I’m not going to be surprised to see Halladay or A Gon go to the Sox.
“This coming from a poster who uses “Ruben Sierra” as his screen name
”
lol
Meanwhile, the Indians will trade left-hander Cliff Lee only for the right price. The Mariners are not ready to move lefty Jarrod Washburn or lefty Erik Bedard. Diamondbacks lefty Doug Davis probably would be a poor fit in the AL East.
Indians right-hander Carl Pavano?
“We’ve seen that movie,” one Yankees official says. “Our players would go crazy if we did that.”
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....n-the-hole
He’s not a bench player though. That’s my point. He has never played off the bench, unlike Hinske.
Playing him everyday makes the Sox a weaker team. Taking an everyday player who has never played off the bench, and making him a bench player, isn’t to LaRoche’s strengths and doesn’t help the team.
Its a nothing move. Let’s not over-analyize it.
As far as Erin Andrews is concerned, I don’t think she is very talented. In fact, I think the only reason she is on the air is because of her looks and she plays to that every chance she gets.
That said, she was the victim of a CRIME. That takes it out of the realm of whether or not she has talent and makes her a victim of a crime. That’s serious stuff.
Hopefully, they catch the people who did it and put them in jail where they belong.
“Adam LaRoche hit .166 as a bench player last year. This move isn’t even worth discussing.”
See my post to SJ. Couldn’t agree more.
Hey Wait it’s not a Hinske-type move because LaRoche is more expensive ($7.5 million in arbitration this year plus he is either arb eligible again next year or an unrestricted in which case they are renting him for 2 months), and definitely cost Boston a better prospect or two than Hinske cost the Yankees. Plus the expectation is it means much less Mike Lowell, which considering how he’s done against the Yankees in his career is, to me, a big plus.
Andy LaRoche that is.
I would be more impressed if the Sux acquired Zach Duke.
The Radar Gun Mafia
How exactly did we “steal” Mark from them? They got ‘cheap’ over 10 million, which they just flushed down the toilet releasing Lugo.
“Maybe he read SJ’s “shut up and play the game” comments all off season. Either way, glad he has decided to go that route. both his performance and team chemistry has been better because of it.”
I think that Alex was humbled by his experience with the PED stuff. That ordeal knocked some sense into him.
I am not an RSP’er. I don’t think this move is “brilliant”, or “season changing” or a “put them over the top” type of move.
I DO think it’s a solid bench move for them. It doesn’t mean Lowell isn’t healthy it means they won’t someone they can spell in occasionally to give him a rest. Not necessarily that he’s not healthy.
what happened to Erin Andrews is disgusting (and I am no prude) and the New York Post’s publishing of the photos is beyond low class. And anyone who thinks differently ought to substitute a family member or close friend for Erin before thinking that way.
Andrew-Goosd point about the cash but even so he’s gonna be a Hinske type of player for them regardless of cost.
Some interesting stats. Reasons to believe in or reasons to doubt the Red Sox from a Boston perspective.
http://www.boston.com/sports/c.....to_be.html
“As far as Erin Andrews is concerned, I don’t think she is very talented. In fact, I think the only reason she is on the air is because of her looks and she plays to that every chance she gets.”
Couldn’t agree more. She brings a lot of this upon herself (not this particular incident which was illegal, but in general).
“I would be more impressed if the Sux acquired Zach Duke.”
That’d be a fun response from Cashman.
The padres would be stupid to trade Gonzales he is the only thing that team has right now
NY Post = Murdoch = Lowest of low.
“Anyone else feel jealous that Theo’s in bed with the Pirates? Betrayed?”
I know. I thought that the Pirates were our BFF.
“He’s not a bench player though. That’s my point. He has never played off the bench, unlike Hinske.”
Good point.
Rachel Nichols is more talented than Erin Andrews.
When you see Nichols, you don’t see a flirty type who is trying to get everyone’s attention. You see a reporter who is all business.
What this move tells us is, Lowell isn’t healthy.
I would much rather face Adam LaRoche than Mike Lowell 10-12 times a series. That’s how I look at this move.
It also tells you this hip surgery is serious stuff. Not everybody recovers from it the same way.
Hopefully, Alex won’t need the second surgery. If he does, the Yankees have to be super careful with him.
The Red Sox overplayed Mike and are now paying the price.
This is risky, risky stuff.
JoeyA,
Alex went back to basics re: the people he seeks out for advice, when the #@#$ hit the fan.
People who actually like him, don’t have their hands in his pocket, and only want to see him happy. Finally, he listened to those people and he is happier than he has ever been in NY.
Funny how that works, isn’t it?
““As far as Erin Andrews is concerned, I don’t think she is very talented. In fact, I think the only reason she is on the air is because of her looks and she plays to that every chance she gets.”
Couldn’t agree more. She brings a lot of this upon herself (not this particular incident which was illegal, but in general).”
Can I get some evidence of how she “plays to that every chance she gets.”??? I’m not seeing her doing the kind of ads/spreads and crap like Danica Patrick…
Yeah how dare Erin Andrews walk around naked in the confines of her private hotel room. How dare she!
It’s funny that Andrews gets ripped because this guy taped her. You all wouldn’t be talking about how crappy she is if this never happened.
“Hank July 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
“As far as Erin Andrews is concerned, I don’t think she is very talented. In fact, I think the only reason she is on the air is because of her looks and she plays to that every chance she gets.”
Couldn’t agree more. She brings a lot of this upon herself (not this particular incident which was illegal, but in general).”
she started out working/interning for FSN in Florida….and many sports radio/tv people know here around here know her personally and most said in regards to the video…
“that knowing her, it’s a surprise she was in that room alone, she’s known to have a good time”….that’s all I’ll say about it, also she’s not shy about having flings w/ athletes she constantly covers allegedly
S.A.–Relax, Relate, Release,
I really can care less about this. So this will be my last post on it. I only got caught up in it because things were slow on here.
They filed a police report in the case you pointed out. The police chose not to follow up on it but a report was filed. In the Big Ben case, they never notified the DA or police. If you dont see a diference there then we’ll just agree to disagree.
Lets go Yanks!!
The LaRoche move is a safety move which means no big infield bats are coming for them. He’s got a good glove. Also means Lowell will be sitting some to try and keep him healthy. If they didn’t give up much then it is insurance for them. Doesn’t make them any better. They already have gold gloves at first and third. But it is a much better option for them then the kid Bailey from the minors.
He doesn’t walk and won’t hit for power and isn’t really a run producer. So it’s a moderate addition. Not bad, but certainly not spectacular.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! (Can we steal Jonathan Sanchez already) July 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
Tony Bernazard >>>>>> http://i43.tinypic.com/331ov92.jpg
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OMG. Hilarious.
The Mets are a disaster right now. More drama than General Hospital
if LaRoche replaces Lowell with Youkilis moving to 3rd that weakens the team both offensively and defensively. LaRoche can’t be better than Youkilis at 1st and there is no way Youkilis, after playing 1st for several years, steps in and plays Lowell-quality 3rd base. That would be like moving Teix to 3rd (he started on the left side of the infield) and asking him to be better than Arod.
Even a big market team isn’t acquiring a guy for the bench they have to pay over 3 million to for the rest of the year.
Lowell isn’t healthy or they never make this move.
That’s an expensive bench player.
Next time your Red Sox fan friends whine about the Yankees money, remind them of what they are paying LaRoche.
That’s a lot of coin to figure out where to shop on Newbury St. and take a few AB’s a week.
That’s why I think this move tells us Lowell is really hurting. Not good for the Sox.
Didn’t Pinella talk about the provocative dress she was wearing last year at a Cubs game, saying this is a baseball game not a fashion show?
jennifer
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
The Radar Gun Mafia
How exactly did we “steal” Mark from them? They got ‘cheap’ over 10 million, which they just flushed down the toilet releasing Lugo.
Maybe so but you don’t think it was shady the way Cashman swooped in last minute?
I think it was brilliant on Cashman’s part but I’ll bet the Sox were none to pleased and pulling off a Halladay move last minute would seem to inflict the same kind of pain that Cashman induced with Texiera.
Both Cash and Theo have thus far at least are acting as though they both believe the other wont act.
But if I’m Theo I’d pull a page out of Cashman’s Christmas Eve book for Halladay last minute.
We’ll see…
I hope I’m wrong.
This EA thing is getting ugly fast.
How bout some baseball?
Adam Laroche traded to the Sox
SJ-
Don’t tell me Madonna and her PR team weren’t looking out for Alex’s best interest!
Say it ain’t so
My one true wish would be for Pete to post a thread about the premature and exaggerated demise of Alex Rodriguez, coupled with his personality transformation. the man still has some great baseball left in him.
Sorry I put Laroche was a decent fielder, thought he was MLBTR refers to him as a “slightly below average” fielder. He also makes more money than I thought this year.
Obviously Theo got him for nothing and the asking price for Atkins, VMart or others was too high for him.
I am praying they overplay their hand and trade Penny or Saito. I don’t think they are that silly. Pitching depth is hard to obtain and injuries already occur. If they use any of those chips they will get caught short.
So back to baseball. Lowell is hurt, Yankees lead the division, and are about to sweep the second team coming out of the break. Life is good
I can’t believe some of these comments about EA.
Did the NY Post dumb readers anonymous meeting just let out?
If Erin Andrews shows how low men can stoop, there’s this story that shows the selflessness and heroism that exists within some:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/.....nnSTCVideo
absolutely amazing (apologies for going so far off-topic, but this is just incredible).
I hate day games that take place while I’m at work. This job is really interfering with me enjoying my life. LOL!
Jay-Hold on, didn’t you write a very long post a long time ago about how you were leaving the Yankees because they’ve broken your heart one too many times?
I hope the Andrews is in no way part of this as a publicity move. I’m always a big cynical with this stuff based off what some others have done.
That said, it’s sick and sad (and criminal) to think of some loser stalking outside her hotel room.
How does Erin play to it professionally? She is known for wearing very provocative clothing on many of her assignments. Especially during college football season, when all the testosterone ridden college students froth after her. Earlier in the year, management advised her to tone it down after one baseball assignment because the dress she wore was a little over the top.
That doesn’t however, excuse anyone from doing what they did to her. They committed a crime and I hope they get nailed for it.
AAAAAAnyways…hows AJ gonna bounce back today? 8 innings 5 hits, 1 ER, 10 k’s??
CountryClub July 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
S.A.–Relax, Relate, Release,
I really can care less about this. So this will be my last post on it. I only got caught up in it because things were slow on here.
They filed a police report in the case you pointed out. The police chose not to follow up on it but a report was filed. In the Big Ben case, they never notified the DA or police. If you dont see a diference there then we’ll just agree to disagree.
Lets go Yanks!!
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We will have to agree to disagree. When pretty much every other outlet, except ESPN, has some report/mention of this, that just screams to me that something fishy is going on.
Just a little blurb or mention of it. They don’t need to jam it down our throats like they pretty much do with everything, just report the news and they aren’t doing it.
Anyways go yankees.
Star Trek
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Rachel Nichols is more talented than Erin Andrews.
When you see Nichols, you don’t see a flirty type who is trying to get everyone’s attention. You see a reporter who is all business.
That’s cause she’s ugly Hah
ESPN is filming a show with Big Ben and Shaq… that’s why they have not brought light to the sexual assault story involving Big Ben.
Laura, why don’t you sign up for YES’s watch Yankees games from your laptop.
xyz-Did you hear the story of the Mets employee who went into a burning building three games to make sure everybody was safe?
I was just talking to another coworker and said I was excited about the Yankee game in 5 minutes.
The annoying woman in the cube next to me GRUNTED at me when I said it. Now we are playing loud John Sterling.
“I think it was brilliant on Cashman’s part but I’ll bet the Sox were none to pleased and pulling off a Halladay move last minute would seem to inflict the same kind of pain that Cashman induced with Texiera.”
Have to disagree to an extent. It would definitely hurt us if the Sox got Doc, but not in the same sense as the Yanks landing Tex did to the Sox.
1. He’s an everyday player.
2. He presented a solution for both teams. He is a 5 tool 1B, which both the Yanks & Sox had a glaring need for. It isn’t like the Yanks and Sox both need an Ace and are vying for Doc.
In my opinion, the Sox truly dropped the ball on the Tex thing. 10M is nothing when taking into account not only getting a premier talent of his generation, but keeping him away from us.
Could you imagine what this season would be like if the Sox, regarded as front-runners in the Tex signing up until the last hour, got him. CC & AJ wouldn’t even matter IMO.
The man has saved more runs with his D and given us more offense than most, if not all, of our other players.
JMO, but Cash saved this Yankee team BIG TIME by getting Tex. Now Boston has to make a deal for LaRoche because their corner in field position is suspect after Youk.
Nobody is condoning what happened to EA in her hotel. That was illegal and wrong.
However, nobody should be surprised at the treatment/attention she gets. She brings it on herself.
7.5 million for a bench player ? TYPE B FA…not much to say there.
Laura
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I hate day games that take place while I’m at work. This job is really interfering with me enjoying my life. LOL!
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Get the Game Day Audio package to stream radio online. I LOVE it. I get no radio reception here at work
And today, I am going to blast it to piss off the annoying woman in the cube next to me
Mark,
Shaq has a reality show on ABC (yes, I know that ABC and ESPN are the same). On that show, Ben will appear in 1 episode.
I doubt that’s enough for them to not report on the type of story they live for.
As the other guy said, she knows what she is, and plays to it every chance she gets.
An attractive, flirty female attending sporting events, littered with men (and a lot of college events with idiot frat boys) should be expected to receive this type of treatment. She knew what she was getting into. How could she not?
JoeyA-IDK. I think IF the Sox get Tex (not happening IMO)forget the division. Sox have it, unless immediately after there is an injury to Beckett or something.
Sorry, replace the word Tex in above post to Halladay.
Does anyone have that link that lets you listen to the Yankees game??
“However, nobody should be surprised at the treatment/attention she gets. She brings it on herself.”
That’s essentially the same as saying a girl gets raped because she wears revealing clothing and that she brings it on herself.
Freaking absurd.
And today, I am going to blast it to piss off the annoying woman in the cube next to me
Met Fan?
Met’s are Hapless and Abyssmal and the Team stinks too.
“I would be more impressed if the Sux acquired Zach Duke.”
Me too.
SJ, there isn’t a question that Lowell has problems. Only because of my proximity to the Sux do I basically know the ins and outs of what is happening with them, listen to their announcers, and get a sense of how their players are doing. Lowell is hurting and his effectiveness has been compromised. His hip was hurting again in June and that obviously wasn’t a good sign to them. If Lowell were good to go, they absolutely wouldn’t be picking up another player.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:01 pm
“However, nobody should be surprised at the treatment/attention she gets. She brings it on herself.”
That’s essentially the same as saying a girl gets raped because she wears revealing clothing and
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Thank you Patrick. You are a smart guy.
This blame the victim attitude is exactly what is wrong with this world.
Rob Neyer’s take:
Red Sox trade for 1B LaRoche?
July 22, 2009 12:56 PM
Well, this is weird:
Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is reporting that the Red Sox have traded for first baseman Adam LaRoche of the Pittsburgh Pirates. LaRoche is a power-hitting first baseman who has averaged 24.5 homers over the past four seasons with the Braves and Pirates. He is hitting .247 with a .329 OBP and .441 slugging mark for the Pirates this year, down from career totals of .269/.338/.486. As of now, there is no word about who the Sox are sending to the Pirates.
I hope you have better luck with Kovacevic than I did; apparently the Post-Gazette’s website was at least momentarily overwhelmed by traffic from Red Sox Nation, and I still haven’t seen the original report. But Kovacevic works hard and I can’t remember him ever being wrong about something, so let’s steam ahead as if this trade is really happening.
Where does LaRoche fit, anyway? I suppose that David Ortiz could use a platoon partner, but that’s not going to work since he and LaRoche bat left-handed. I suppose the Red Sox might be worried about Mike Lowell, except he’s been perfectly fine since coming off the DL last week.
Also, Andy LaRoche isn’t … well, he’s just not all that good. This is his sixth major league season. He’s been excellent in two of them, and just sort of adequate in four of them. That’s in the National League, mind you. In the American League he might not even be an average first baseman.
The Red Sox usually know what they’re doing. I don’t, yet.
Anyone see the CNNSI list of top 100 players?
Utley #5?
Teixeira behind Beltran and Youkilis?
CC at 41 next to MO behind Cris Carpenter?!?!?!?!
These lists are always ridiculous (having said that I always look at them anyway – to complain of course)
Blame the Victim!
is this the 70′s?
“Could you imagine what this season would be like if the Sox, regarded as front-runners in the Tex signing up until the last hour, got him. CC & AJ wouldn’t even matter IMO.
The man has saved more runs with his D and given us more offense than most, if not all, of our other players.
JMO, but Cash saved this Yankee team BIG TIME by getting Tex. Now Boston has to make a deal for LaRoche because their corner in field position is suspect after Youk.”
Absolutely agree, however I disagree that Laroche is anything more than a depth aquisition.
Like I said I hope I’m wrong but I’m expecting something HUGE from Theo in the next 8 days or so..
“The annoying woman in the cube next to me GRUNTED at me when I said it. Now we are playing loud John Sterling.”
That’s because she’s probably bitter she has to listen to Howie Rose tell her the Mets lost another close game 11 – 1
Patrick-No it isn’t. We’re not saying it’s her fault that she was illegally taped. It wasn’t. But if you’re as attractive as she is and wear clothing as revealing s she does, you’re almost literllay begging for attention from the guys, no?
Not beggin to be raped, but to be paid attention to by guys? Absolutely.
today’s game is one of those that is a very high probability win for the Yankees. I would guess if they play this game 10 times the Yankees win at least 8, maybe even 9. I look for the O’s no name pitcher to be gone within 4 innings as the Yankees are due to score a bunch of runs after all these 2-1 games and they got started in that direction last night.
Lets go Yankees!
Uncle E-
She is a Mets fan.
This woman is also the very same person who came in with her 5 year old son one day. When I asked why he was here, she was like, “Oh, he’s been sick for the last 3 days and I can’t send him to school”. ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AJ let’s make it 6 in a row,20 over 500. LETS GO YANKEES!!!
Alex Speier of WEEI.com reports that the Pirates receive pitcher Hunter Strickland and shortstop Argenis Diaz.
Two meaningless prospects so salary dump. Smart move by Theo as they gave up nothing of note. Be sure though, this move pretty much takes them out of adding any big time bat at first or third. They took on a decent amount of salary for this move which they wouldn’t do just to add another bat at the same spot.
Erica – always OPPC
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Uncle E-
She is a Mets fan.
I don’t have too many Mets fans to bust chops on – you should give her a hard time.
“It doesn’t mean Lowell isn’t healthy it means they won’t someone they can spell in occasionally to give him a rest. Not necessarily that he’s not healthy.”
Wait til, I think that there have real fears about Lowell’s health. Problems with his hip certainly weren’t a good sign for them. If they felt Lowell were good to go, they wouldn’t have gone near LaRoche.
“However, nobody should be surprised at the treatment/attention she gets. She brings it on herself.”
“An attractive, flirty female attending sporting events, littered with men (and a lot of college events with idiot frat boys) should be expected to receive this type of treatment. She knew what she was getting into. How could she not?”
Is this the 1950′s? I think some people here are stuck in Leave it to Beaver reruns….
EA should be home, cleaning the kitchen, cooking dinner for her husband, and having babies. Yeah, how could she expect privacy in a hotel room! She knew was she was getting into.
(insert rolling eyes here)
trisha-Good points, all. But I’m not jumping to conclusions about Lowell is all.
nasty
Anyone know where I can get a radio feed for the game ?
That strikeout pitch looked like a very fast sname.
nice way to start the day, AJ!…rhyme!
nice try gardner
Aw, the no hitter is broken up.
I’m out. See ya.
And a very fast snake, too.
Tex is a Vaccum at first.
Brett Gardner is a good kid and plays hard but he isn’t exactly Tori Hunter or Adam Jones in center field.
“Two meaningless prospects so salary dump. Smart move by Theo as they gave up nothing of note. Be sure though, this move pretty much takes them out of adding any big time bat at first or third. They took on a decent amount of salary for this move which they wouldn’t do just to add another bat at the same spot.”
It’s an eh move. Can we steal Duke from them now?
GOOD JOB AJ!
an efficient 8 pitch inning!
nice quick inning.
Great inning
I know Erin Andrews through some friends and she’s one of the nicest people I’ve ever met.
Friendly, unassuming, and intelligent.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
AJ has his good fastball today. He’ll probably stick to it for the 1st time through the lineup and start featuring the breaking ball later in the game.
Uncle Ellsworth
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Blame the Victim!
is this the 70’s?
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No, but I totally took intro to feminism my sophomore year of college
Jeter doesn’t have the record number of hits for a SS… yet. He’s behind Omar with 2668 and Luis Aparacio with 2677
Jeter has only 2637 hits as a SS so he need 41 more hits to get the record. 13 of his hits came as a DH, Omar has 12 hits in other position but all of Aparacio’s hits came as SS
Diet Coke saying Bernazard had words with K-Rod last week? The guy seems like an angry little fellow.
Nice start AJ. Let’s go Yankees
How is this a “smart move” if it takes him out of going after other players?
They tie up over 3 million dollars on a guy who isn’t a good player. That’s not “smart”.
What it is is, they settled for the best bat they could find, which tells you there isn’t much out there.
“Brett Gardner is a good kid and plays hard but he isn’t exactly Tori Hunter or Adam Jones in center field.”
true but hes not bad…hes made some great plays this year
miggs
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I know Erin Andrews through some friends and she’s one of the nicest people I’ve ever met.
Friendly, unassuming, and intelligent.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
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miggs, I completely agree, I don’t know how anyone could think of a single reason to justify what has happened to her.
the Pirates receive pitcher Hunter Strickland and shortstop Argenis Diaz
I dont get ESPN at work.
Where else can I watch the game via GAMECAST or something?
its time for berken to lose 8 straight.
need a link to watch the game pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Jetah!
no time to waste, the captain with a lead-off 2B
nice start derek!…knee must be feeling good lol
GO DJ. Thats my DJ.
Why is Jeter swinging at the first pitch instead of trying to work the count?
Wow! This is hard to take! EA is a very good reporter and seemingly a very nice person. This crap of her attire or looks being somehow responsible is like a 50′s court case where the man raped a woman because she had sexy clothes or something.
Why do you think people in the media have facelifts, hair transplants, fake teeth, colored eye contacts or even wear makeup? It is about presentation. EA does a better job that half the jokes on ESPN! Dare I say Back, Back, Back, Back, Berhman or whatever? This mentality needs to stop. Just because you can type lefthanded while you gawk at a female reporter doesn’t mean you have a right to critize her. Do you have a daughter that we can send someone to tape and divulge to the pervs out there to enjoy? Perhaps if you did yopu might put the aire of crap to where it belongs! Class is a hard word to define, but the lack of it is evident.
SJ44 is terrible
Berken throws pretty hard (96 mph to Damon if the YES gun is accurate today) so he must have some major command issues to have an ERA over 6. He’s exactly the kind of pitcher the Yankees usually hammer.
Tex!
Alex might take him deep.
Jones and Markakis and even the kid in LF all have good arms. Pretty sick.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
I just saw your post! I couldn’t agree more!
The more the season rolls on the more this team seems primed to go onto a run into October. Everyday it’s a new guy, winning the game in a new way. Offense, Defense, Pitching, and dumb luck. They’re a pleasure to watch, and Derek Jeter may be the first 35+ SS to bring a team to the promised land!
Alex nice. Not trying to do too much.
good job
good hitting by Alex
Alex!
clutch-rod!
Where are the arod bashers???? HA!
Suzyn Waldman is considered a pioneer among women in sports broadcasting. There is a picture of her hanging on he wall in the women in basball section of the Hall of Fame (at least there was last time I was there). She took a lot of abuse from players and others when she started, but she hung in there. Nevertheless, she has been a Yankee broadcaster in some form for over 20 years. In 1996 she was diagnosed with breast cancer and continued to work at WFAN through her treatment. She is credited with bringing Yogi Berra and George Steinbrenner back together in 1999 (the two had not spoken in over a decade).
“The word “first” invariably precedes the name of Suzyn Waldman in every facet of her television and radio career. The first woman to work on a nationally televised baseball broadcast, Waldman added another first, being the first woman to provide play-by-play for a Major League team, when she started broadcasting New York Yankees games for WPIX, MSG Network and WNYW/FOX5 in the mid ‘90s. The first and only woman ever to host an NBA pre- and post-game show, working in that capacity for the NY Knicks on WFAN, Waldman provided play-by-play for the WNBA on Lifetime TV and was an analyst on St. John’s Basketball games for MSG and WFAN.
She has been honored by countless organizations, including the Thurman Munson Foundation, the March of Dimes, the B’nai B’rith, the Jimmy Fund of Boston, the NY Baseball Scouts and the US Federal Women’s Program for her contributions as a role model and a pioneer in women’s sportscasting. She is a tireless motivational speaker at schools and cancer centers around the country, encouraging young women to pursue their dreams despite any pitfalls they may encounter.”
Quoted from her NY Yankees broadcaster bio.
We should be proud to have her.
Sweet swing for alex
there’s chum in the water, and the Yanks are circling.
Argenis Diaz:
Scouting Report: Diaz is an elite defensive shortstop, and if he improves his concentration on routine plays, he could compete for a gold glove in the bigs right now. He has plus range, excellent footing, an impressive glove, and an outstanding arm. Makes impossible plays in the field…
…He’s a slap hitter with below average to average on base ability and without much power, but he’s swung the bat very well during a few prolonged stints here and there. Good bat speed through the zone. Struggles with advanced off-speed stuff. Can show lack of plate discipline in stretches. Hits lefties significantly better than righties. Excellent at laying down bunts. Won’t steal a lot of bases.
Hunter Strickland:
Strickland has a free and easy delivery that doesn’t put much stress on his arm. His balance and form are very polished, providing him with an excellent base to pitch from and keeping him from overthrowing the ball. Strickland’s fastball sits 89-91 MPH with the ability to top out at 93 MPH.
Strickland’s slider and change-up are a little more unrefined than his fastball at this point in his career.
Bryan you are terrible. SJ44 Is a well respected man around here. Who the hell are you?
Rayvt
couldn’t agree more with what you said
Have I previously mentioned how much I hate day games during the week? Having a job = no fun!
you just get the feeling either Matsui or Jorge goes deep this inning
Dr. Cox July 22nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I dont get ESPN at work.
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time to find a new job.
no links for the game????
Have I previously mentioned how much I hate day games during the week? Having a job = no fun!
Having to pay $460 health insurance payments monthly cuz u cant get a job= no fun
Yankees could bury them early and the Birds will be happy to just go home.
Dr. Cox: Go to Yankees.com and on homepage, click on Gameday.
Gameday says the plate ump is Frank Drebin.
Matsui hits the first Yankees non-line drive of the game there
I hope Jorge doesn’t stare at stike three
robbie w/ bases loaded?
huge AB here
lets go Cano
break outta that bases loaded slump
berken @ 20 pitches
cano with RISP
i won’t get on his case
Buck Nasty
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Have I previously mentioned how much I hate day games during the week? Having a job = no fun!
Having to pay $460 health insurance payments monthly cuz u cant get a job= no fun
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Valid. I was unemployed for 9 months, so I feel your pain.
I’m just upset cause I can’t watch the game.
“Gameday says the plate ump is Frank Drebin”
LOL! But, Enrico Palazzo would have been better!
bases loaded for Robbie
Cano’s a-hackin’
Why does Robbie hack at two pitches out of the zone. The kid has to throw strikes, wait on your pitch. It has to come. Even if you have to take a strike.
Cano has a terrible approach. Just brutal. If i was pitching you just don’t throw him strikes, let him get himself out.
Lucky
wooo
oh how lucky
i’ll take it
ROBBIE!
ya know what?
I’ll take it!
nice job Robbie.
a hit is a hit is a hit
Television is a visual medium. People who are on television need to be mildly attractive to look at, or at the very least not distractingly unattractive. That’s just the way it is. It’s neither fair nor unfair. As long as the people in the positions have other credentials besides being camera-friendly, I don’t care. All of us at one time or another has seen an unattractive face on t.v. and asked, what’s he/she doing there? It’s a distraction.
Anyway, that’s not the issue.
As m stated, EA had her privacy breached, illegally. It’s a heinous act. And in my opinion, a person that would go out of their way to view any of the video or pictures is adding to the problem.
haha…cano hit it in the perfect spot…i think he would of beaten it out
Cano can’t win on this blog. On Monday, with the bases loaded, he had a 10 pitch AB, lines out to left, and gets criticized. Today he goes after the 1st pitch (he’s hitting well over .300 on 1st pitches) and he’s hacking…
Robbie 4 pitches 4 swings. Amazing.
Now watch Swisher’s approach. I am feeling good about his at bat here.
How many pitches is Berken @?
CANO??? with RSP???
LOL- That ‘s one way for Robbie to get it done.
God. How much would you pay to give Swisher’s approach to Cano?
I know i’ll get drubbed for this comment, but if Mitre struggles during his next start, why not give Kei (The $46 million dollar man) Igawa a start instead? Or is he doomed to play the rest of his contract in Scranton until 2011?
Wow, just watched the YES’s new sell out feature “G-Moment” for Gatorade. Time’s must be tough for YES.The Coor’s Freez Cam, Toyota Tex Pool, the whole WB Mason thing. There must be something else im forgetting and now the Gatorade “G-Moment”.
I miss the Phil Rizzuto Days.
You hack when you just swing at every pitch. Neither of those two pitches were even close to strikes.
pitch count at 25…
swisha!
Swish!!!
Pound this guy into the ground!!!!!!!!
That’s the way to do it! Yay Swishie!!
wait a minute… what’s the Yanks avg with RISP this inning??
yee haw!!
Good feeling panned out. He waited for the pitcher to have to come in the zone and to him. Perfect approach. Take Swisher’s approach with Cano’s ability any day. But I will take them both on this team. Just an ideal situation.
Can we have a laugher please?
Way to go Robbie Cano
Swishy!
This is a nice start
That tapper by Cano makes up for one of the rockets that he’s hit and was flagged down.
:Erica wildly clapping in her cube:
uh – Gardners’ going to want to try to swing at the strikes
AJ needs to pound the strike zone.
GJ Yankees
I’m on delay, I agree with Swisher’s approach…but Cano has more ability and upside…
31 pitches for him
The Phranchise
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
You hack when you just swing at every pitch. Neither of those two pitches were even close to strikes.
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three names-Yogi Berra, Roberto Clemente, Vladimir Guerrero
they were/are all bad ball hitters. I’ll take Robbie Cano, even with his struggles with RISP, at 2nd base for the next 8-10 years, he is so underappreciated by many Yankees fans it’s ridiculous.
pitch count isn’t going to matter for Berken, he’s going to be gone long before that is an issue.
…as the war machine keeps turning.
thats a good example of why gardner good eye also hurts him…he took 2 good pitches to swing at then hit a weak pop up
YankeesWFAN: Best records in MLB since May 8 (ARod’s return): NYY 43-22, LAA 41-24, LAD 39-25, PHI 39-26, COL 40-27.
I hope Posada doesn’t start calling for balls and hits
The curve looks good.
AJ’s pitches are moving today.
three names-Yogi Berra, Roberto Clemente, Vladimir Guerrero
they were/are all bad ball hitters. I’ll take Robbie Cano, even with his struggles with RISP, at 2nd base for the next 8-10 years, he is so underappreciated by many Yankees fans it’s ridiculous.
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Cano is underappreciated. He’s like the reverse Pedroia. Pedroia makes every play look like a gold glove play. He dives on routine ground balls while Cano looks like he doesn’t care yet they make about the same amount of plays. And Cano is disliked by New Yorkers and Pedroia is loved by Boston fans
MG
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Add Andre Dawson to that list too! A true HOF player IMO!
whew….I thought that was out.
I never said throw Cano away. Just pointing out what keeps him from being a top 20 player in all of baseball. You are comparing Robbie to three HOF type players. That is a tough comparison to make. Ian Kinsler also is a guy that hacks away a lot. Robbie could be a #3 hitter like Utley with some more plate discipline.
Radio link:
I get it on the 2nd link 94.3
http://www.freebaseballradio.com/NYyankees.html
come on AJ, do not give it back.
Little quick trouble for Burnett.
AJ you trying to give it back?
“thats a good example of why gardner good eye also hurts him…he took 2 good pitches to swing at then hit a weak pop up”
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in general maybe, but in that AB, I disagree
the second pitch was too low and inside and was a ball. bad call by the ump IMO.
plus, the O’s starter was having a little trouble finding the plate and you Gardy was smart to see a couple pitches.
I taught women’s studies at the college where I used to work and I have all kinds of ambivalence about this stuff. (Also I majored in journalism in college and so was made aware of the different treatment of males and females in the profession. The practice of law is no different, by the way, in terms of inherent sexism.) Per usual, I can see all of the points that have been made. One of the difficulties is that there is a huge double standard in broadcast journalism and sports broadcast journalism is probably the worst. If anyone remembers Christine Craft she brought and age and gender discrimination suit after she was demoted in her position because some focus group determined she was old, unattractive, and wouldn’t defer to men. Contrast that with the respect paid to older male journalists (Huntley, Brinkley, Cronkite, etc.)
When Craft had to do a women in sports segment for CBS they forced her to have a makeover and to dye her hair blonde!
Notice that female on-air journalists seem to have deep voices. The first time I heard the FOX person (can’t remember her name right now) I couldn’t believe that was her real voice. I happen to know Karen Adams who broadcasts for the Providence CBS affiliate. She almost sounds like a man on air. In real life she’s got kind of a high voice.
Cut to Erin Andrews. It is more than possible that to have the position she does, keep it, and be wildly successful, she has had to make certain compromises, including dressing more provocatively than the average bear and even acting flirty – if she does. If you don’t think that is totally a product of the double standard in our society, you’re not thinking. Barbara Walters is the exception in the broadcast industry, and even she was moved out to pasture at some point. The Cronkites, Rooneys, etc. in this world go out when they are ready to go out.
Dear Ken Singleton and Michael Kay,
The term “batting around” indicates that the scorecard goes back around to the first batter of the inning. 9 batters in an inning would be “batting through.” 10 batters would be “batting around.”
Love, Josh
.234 hitter and .228 hitter up next. Here is where you have to end it.
Doesn’t that trade break up the LaRoche brothers out in Pittsburgh? do I have the right guys?
Come on, AJ.
Rishi I answered your question yesterday further down that same thread.
Did you see it?
Streaming link worked last night but not so far today
http://www.p2p4u.net/
“How much would you pay to give Swisher’s approach to Cano?”
Swisher’s eye with Cano’s bat control would be Pujols-like.
miggs
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Rishi I answered your question yesterday further down that same thread.
Did you see it?
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Missed it, Miggs…
believe me Pete, I moved from Jersey to maryland. and they have fans. but they are the dumbest people i’ve ever talked baseball to.
Rishi-
GU Class of ’99 School of Business
You?
The yes gun is absolutely ridiculous. 97 mph breaking balls.
no streaming today??
Doreen,
you are right.
Adam is a free agent at the end of the season but somehow I don’t think he’ll want to reunite with his brother in (the pitiful attempt of a baseball team) Pittsburgh
SFS ’99…
no lead is safe against Baltimore
just ask the Red Sox bullpen (10 runs in 2 innings)
mwahahahhahahahahahaha!!!!
Doreen
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Doesn’t that trade break up the LaRoche brothers out in Pittsburgh? do I have the right guys?
Come on, AJ.
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You’re correct, Doreen. Andy at third and Adam at first. They’re the sons of former Yankee relief pitcher, Dave Laroche (signature pitch was the “LaLob”.
“Not sure what you men see in her; I don’t think she’s all that great looking. Same for Erin Andrews”
Erin Andrews? In tallahassee, i would see 10 like her every day.
I will take Sage Steele tho.
wow…that was close
whew that was a close force
nice
24 pitches for AJ
AJ — Throwing Strikes to O’s and getting them out…. what a concept….
Shdw — I can’t really agree with your point about Yankee fans under-appreciating Cano. Pedroia has an MVP and is a top of the order producer. Cano has yet to show he can bat 5th, or get a hit with RISP on any kind of consistent basis.
Cano is a good second baseman, can’t think of any available player id rather have, but he isn’t great until he cleans up his game and lives to his potential.
UPDATE, 1:33 p.m.: How do people actually become fans of the Orioles? They have not had a winning season since 1997. If I was a kid in Maryland I’d run away from home and find a better team. At least the Ravens are pretty good.
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Well, they probably have the biggest future in baseball. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made the playoffs in 2011. In fact, winning the World Series wouldn’t surprise me either.
Ahh School of Foreign Service!
Toughest one to get into. Impressive.
It wouldn’t surprise me if we know each other, but I’m not too eager to give my full name on this blog.
So your freshman year was Iverson’s sophomore year (like me). If you are a big BB fan you got to witness the genius that was Victor Page.
“Well, they probably have the biggest future in baseball. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made the playoffs in 2011. In fact, winning the World Series wouldn’t surprise me either”
they have a good farm system but lets not get ahead of ourselves..they’d have to beat the yanks sox rays and jays to even sniff the playoffs
Well, they probably have the biggest future in baseball. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made the playoffs in 2011. In fact, winning the World Series wouldn’t surprise me either.
You need some pitching to win don’t you? Young pitching will take time to develop even if they have some arms.
Kind of hard to predict the Orioles winning WS and making the playoffs based on prospect buzz.
Some of you never learn. Felix Pie was once the crown jewel of the Cubs farm system. A “can’t miss”, guaranteed star. How did that turn out.
The Orioles have a ton of names, mostly pitchers, in the farm system. For every 6 guys, 1-2 will make it. 2 will get hurt, and 2 won’t live up to the hype.
That’s how difficult it is to project prospects and see if they make it.
“I’ll take Robbie Cano, even with his struggles with RISP, at 2nd base for the next 8-10 years, he is so underappreciated by many Yankees fans it’s ridiculous”
Cano is not my fave player.
however, all i have to do is re-watch yankee games when Soriano was playing 2nd base, and my appreciation for his game is x10
miggs
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Ahh School of Foreign Service!
Toughest one to get into. Impressive.
It wouldn’t surprise me if we know each other, but I’m not too eager to give my full name on this blog.
So your freshman year was Iverson’s sophomore year (like me). If you are a big BB fan you got to witness the genius that was Victor Page.
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I agree – no need to share names on the blog – we went to a fair number of basketball games that year (not many afterwards) and had a couple classes with some of the basketball players.
My roommate was “connected” with the team so I ended up with a more negative than positive impression
One of two reasons for people becoming fans of the Orioles. Just like the reason people became fans of the 60s through 90s versions of the Pat Riots. Geography or ignorance of youth. They didn’t know any better.
that was ball 4 and a half
If LaRoche essentially replaces Lowell they may be the are a very “white” team. Seems typical for Boston.
I just remember the Soriano streak where he just was getting offspeed after offspeed pitch and was whiffing away. Soriano was explosive though with some speed too. Rare talent as well. Not too many 30-30 guys anymore.
UPDATE, 1:33 p.m.: How do people actually become fans of the Orioles? They have not had a winning season since 1997. If I was a kid in Maryland I’d run away from home and find a better team. At least the Ravens are pretty good.
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Pete, I know you know this, but they were the biggest rival before the Red Sox got good again. And as Serf pointed out, they should be up-and-coming in a couple of years. Lots of good young players in the organization. The 2011 standings could look like this:
Yankees
Rays
Orioles
Sox
Jays
The Sox need to make some moves if they’re gonna keep up with the division. They’re gonna fade this year. I say Yankees #1, Tampa #2, Sox miss the playoffs.
Woah butchered that. Meant to say they are a very “white” team.
UPDATE, 1:44 p.m.: The Yankees announced some more football games today. Here is the complete schedule:
Nov. 20, 2010: Notre Dame vs. Army
Nov. 12, 2011: Rutgers vs. Army
Nov. 3, 2012: Air Force vs. Army
Nov. 8, 2014: Boston College vs. Army
While it’ll be cool to see football at the Stadium, Army has been a bad team in recent years, going 3-9 last season. If they don’t become more competitive, those games will be routs.
Hey all – Burnett’s stuff looking good today! Rocky 2nd, but hopefully he’ll settle in, egh?
boner
Swisher is just dreadful in RF.
i never thought swisher could be this bad
“Patrick-No it isn’t. We’re not saying it’s her fault that she was illegally taped. It wasn’t. But if you’re as attractive as she is and wear clothing as revealing s she does, you’re almost literllay begging for attention from the guys, no?
Not beggin to be raped, but to be paid attention to by guys? Absolutely.”
Even if you’re saying she’s begging for male attention, that still doesn’t equal bringing this on herself. If I was attractive enough to use my looks to get ahead in life you bet your butt I would do it, as would any one of you…but I wouldn’t expect some pervert to film me naked and post it all over the internet because of it.
Swisher is a joke.
Hmmmm…..What about those defensive metrics someone was pimping earlier??
We can be happy that at least the ball didn’t bounce of Swisher’s head
more beer league softball defense by Swisher.
no worries, though, the apologists will have your back, Nick.
Somewhere in Ohio Paul O’Neil just destroyed a water cooler.
Rob NY
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Shdw — I can’t really agree with your point about Yankee fans under-appreciating Cano. Pedroia has an MVP and is a top of the order producer. Cano has yet to show he can bat 5th, or get a hit with RISP on any kind of consistent basis.
Cano is a good second baseman, can’t think of any available player id rather have, but he isn’t great until he cleans up his game and lives to his potential.
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Pedroia was no more the most valuable in the AL than Cano was last year. As far as Cano not being productive, I’d suggest you look at his run production in his first three years and the first two with barely over 500 at bats. in ’07, he had 97 RBI out of the 7th/8th spot. Not exactly dog meat.
Sox’s biggest concern over the next two years is replacing Beckett. They either have to pay him big after his prime or look elsewhere. Reagrdless of what people say Bucholz doesn’t look like a dominant top 10 #1 pitcher guy to me. Lester is very good. But where do you get that #1 guy? Most guys are locked up. I am sure they are unwilling to make some moves knowing they need these guys for a trade too. Verlander would be dominant, King Felix, etc. It would take a lot to get those types of guys, but I am sure they will look to make a big push for one of those mid 20s pitchers under contract who is dominant the same way they went after Beckett.
why can’t the yanks flip some mid level prospects and send a little cash to get players like this as chips to use in bigger deals?
Lots of rocket line drives off Burnett so far. Its only a matter of time before its 4-3 or tied.
Swisher that’s just piss poor on your part….
Folks still want to quote bogus defensive stats telling me how good Swisher is in the OF. He’s awful.
2-4 times a week corner OF’s on this team butcher routine plays.
Its a real weakness and they are going to have to address it.
Can’t keep dropping routine flyballs every game and expect to survive a tough pennant.
These guys don’t have to be Gold Glove’s out there. However, their complete inability to even make the routine play makes them useless to play on an everyday basis.
Swisher +2 offensively, probably -1 defensively. He will get killed here for the rest of the day, poor guy…
should be runner on 1st 1 out instead it is 1st and 3rd 0 outs…unbelievable….swisher had a big hit today but routine plays need to be made
Bad error to make letting the leadoff hitter get on like that.
wow. I was thinking that would be a run for sure.
Why does ever fly ball to Damon now scare me??
I CAN’T LOOK DID HE CATCH IT ?!
Sterling: “Damon made a very strong throw home”
Just wanted to share that touching moment with all of you. Not a line used very often
Damon follows it up, misses the cutoff man, and allows Jones to get into scoring position, eliminating the DP possiblities.
Its a tribute to the overall talent on this team be this good with corner OF’s this bad.
Yeah, I’m off the Swisher train officially.
His plate discipline aside, he’s just a butcher in the outfield and he’s going to cost this team important games.
Brandon-
1) Stop with the awesome nonsense
2) Stop with bashing Johnny Damon
3) Stop with your Jonathan Sanchez man crush
Sterling: “Damon made a very strong throw home”
Just wanted to share that touching moment with all of you. Not a line used very often
Eh. Maybe a strong throw for Damon.
SJ44,
Don’t you think the team is going to need to trade for a dependable corner outfielder?
Erica – always OPPC
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Sterling: “Damon made a very strong throw home”
Just wanted to share that touching moment with all of you. Not a line used very often
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However, he missed the cutoff man and allowed the runner one first base to go to second base.
wow..what a nasty unbelievable pitch…wow
Burnett should be out of the inning by now
ok – one more out
I have to agree with those of you who can’t believe how bad the Yankees corner outfield defense is. It’s the worst I’ve ever seen on a Yankees team. At least when Yogi and Hector (what a pair of hands) Lopez patrolled left field on a regular basis there was Roger Maris in right.
nice save jorge!
YES guilty of what NESN does all the time and for which I have continually criticized them. Interviewing some non-baseball yayhoo and taking up valuable game time and play calling with the interview.
BOO!
I’m tired of the PC Richards whistle after each strikeout by a Yankees pitcher at the Stadium.
Drives me crazy.
watch for a breaking ball for the strikeout here
“Its a tribute to the overall talent on this team be this good with corner OF’s this bad.”
The Yankees can only overcome their terrible outfield because their infield is historically good.
SJ44 would it be ok if I emailed Pete to get your email address from him?
There are a couple of questions I’d like to ask you but not through the blog.
Thanks.
least people forget Bobby wasn’t that great last year
Ok nick jus reedeemed himself
Swish! I’m shocked. Way to go!
OH MY GOD HE MAKES UP FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GB — I didn’t say he was dog meat, I said he has the potential to be great but hasn’t yet done it. The one thing from this year that I’m really stoked about is his power. He’s only 10 short of his 2b total for all last year and on pace to beat his career high in HR too. I like him a lot, but he’ll be 27 in October and I’d like to see him be the 3 hole hitter we all think he can be.
We can agree that he might not have deserved the MVP but he won it, something a lot of great players haven’t been able to do. Maybe you want to argue that it’s just the Red Sox hype machine (Kind of like Jim Rice’s HoF candidacy) but he was an MVP.
Redemption!
Swisher makes a tremendous catch.
Take your comments back hahah !!!!!!!!!
take that, me!
unbelievable…
HOW DOES HE MAKE THAT CATCH…and not the other one…
sorry i had to
Unreal he got out of it. Great job Burnett.
Swisherr redemption!!!
Burnett’s pitches are MOVING! He looks like he’s doing everything right… is this a situation of bad pitch-calling?
And the Yankee Universe forgives St Nick for another week. Nice wall climb, though.
screw you SWISH!
GreenBeret7
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Erica – always OPPC
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Sterling: “Damon made a very strong throw home”
Just wanted to share that touching moment with all of you. Not a line used very often
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However, he missed the cutoff man and allowed the runner one first base to go to second base.
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However, no damage done.
Look, you guys expect him to make the catch, make a strong throw in, AND hit the cutoff man. Some people just have ridiculous expectations
Well, Swisher definitely makes things interesting, lol.
Now Swisher follows it up with the best, and only, play he will make all year.
Great for the highlight film. They still need steadier hands in the corner OF spots.
Swishere giveth and taketh away.
- Sterling
Basebsll Guy
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I’m tired of the PC Richards whistle after each strikeout by a Yankees pitcher at the Stadium.
Drives me crazy.
it is so bad, I hate it too. Everything is for sale.
Damn that Swisher! This is what he does all the time. Makes some bone-headed play and then pulls a rabbit out of a hat, and he somehow makes you forget all that went before it!
>Interviewing some non-baseball yayhoo and taking up
>valuable game time and play calling with the interview.
I’m not sure if you’re serious. You’re aware of the context, no?
“He looks like he’s doing everything right… is this a situation of bad pitch-calling?”
It’s always a situation of bad pitch-calling when Posada is the catcher, obviously.
Swisher is an E Ticket ride at Disney some days.
Swisher is living with “Yogi Berra Luck”. He got a second chance.
Allie Reynolds had a no hitter going for 8.2 innings against the Red sox in ’51. Ted Williams hits a foul popup to Berra and Berra dropped it. Next pitch was a foul popup to Berra and he caught it.
Really SJ? The stats say he has good range. No one will deny he makes some poor plays. But you let those boneheaded plays (which you can count on one hand, btw, I challenge you to name more than 4) cloud the fact that his range is pretty good, as evidenced on that play.
So, does Swishy have to pay for the damage???
Miggs,
Sure, not a problem. Rebecca also has it if you need to get it.
What luck. Swisher is a clown. One of these days our corner outfielders are going to cost us a game.
Until then – keep acting like clowns and having fun. As long as he drives in runs with 2 outs I’m okay.
“If LaRoche essentially replaces Lowell they may be the are a very “white” team. Seems typical for Boston.”
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I was just talking to a Red Sox employee about this subject.
They dump Lugo, eating his contract, when he is a better bet to outperform Nick Green.
They are more “white” than most. That’s for sure.
Posada!
jorge!!
Swisher and Cano need a coach that is on their butt day and night. Both of them have the tendancy to get lazy during a 162 game season.
oh my
HIP HIP
well, I predicted Matsui or Jorge would go deep in the 1st, I was only 2 innings off lol
Look, you guys expect him to make the catch, make a strong throw in, AND hit the cutoff man. Some people just have ridiculous expectations
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LOL you are cracking me up
Thanks SJ I just wanted to ask you first.
You know, privacy issues and such.
“Lester is very good. But where do you get that #1 guy”
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as much as I hate to say it, I believe Lester will be a #1.
If I had to guess, I’d say they keep Beckett. But even if they don’t, you can be sure they’ll be active on the free agent market in the coming years.
John Lackey next offseason?
Did Phil have a IPOD in?
hopefully melancon robertson and bruney can get some innnings today…7-8-9?
This is the kind of team you think about when looking at the roster before the season starts – of course we always imagine them all healthy and for the most part everyone on the team is healthy.
I will take Nick Swisher on my team any day.
and take that, fair-weather fans
Down and away. The book on Robi is out.
“Did Phil have a IPOD in?”
prbly listening to “Sad But True”
they are still missing the starting right fielder (Nady), that’s a pretty big hole out there. Swish would be a good bench player, it’s a big jump to playing every day as he is proving from time to time.
Brandon, I see you saw Phil on the my 9 post game too?
Pel
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Down and away. The book on Robi is out.
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just think, without that book, he might be hitting .370 instead of .310.
UPDATE, 2:09 p.m.: That Posada HR reminds me, how are the Yankees winning all these games and pitching so well without Johnny Bench Cervelli calling every pitch and showing so much energy?
It was comical how people thought Cervelli should be catching ahead of Posada. Maybe someday. Not in 2009.
Boston Dave, did you see Howard Bryant’s article about Pumpsie Green being the Sox’s first African-American player. The Sox were the last team to integrate, and Bryant’s piece discusses the aspect of race in Boston baseball pretty in-depth. Interesting piece, considering what you were alluding to:
http://tinyurl.com/mm7ujl
By the way, responding to something in Pete’s Notebook, I don’t blame Tomko a bit for being angry. Everything he laid out was right on the money.
I’m a thread late.
“they are still missing the starting right fielder (Nady), that’s a pretty big hole out there. Swish would be a good bench player, it’s a big jump to playing every day as he is proving from time to time”
theres no jump for him….he has been a starter his entire career
Yeah, really. Bogus defensive stats are meaningless.
Name 4? Ok. Two in Fenway, one in the game that AJ blew the 6 run lead and one in Wang’s start that cost them runs.
Today and the other day when he played a routine flyball into a triple by Granderson. That’s 4, right off the top of my head.
I can name about 6-8 more bad plays, everything from missing cutoff men, throwing to the wrong base, and misplaying more balls in right.
That’s why defensive stats are nonsensical to me. The same findings that determine Robinson Cano and Mark Teixeira are “average” defenders, tell us Swisher is in their class as a defensive player.
Problem is, if you have any time of functional eyesight, you see a completely different picture.
Fact is, the corner OF defensive on the team is a weakness and its hurt them in games against teams like Boston, Tampa and Anaheim.
Its got to get cleaned up. If these guys aren’t capable, they are going to have to find somebody who is because it will cost them against better teams. As we have seen in some of those games this year.
Nick Swisher is the kid we have or know that will do something wrong, you reprimand them, then turn away so they don’t see you giggling.
As bad as Swisher has been in the OF and often times at the plate, the Yanks are lucky to have him IMO.
With Nady going down, Swisher is better than most bench guys that would have ordinarily been left to replace a starter.
If JD Drew goes down, for example, the Sox go to Baldelli or Kotsay (hardly everyday players).
Swisher isn’t a starter, but he’s better than most “replacement” players.
>just think, without that book, he might be hitting .370 instead of .310.
Exactly.
A-rod had his car smashed this morning by Kate Hudson’s nanny. In the pictures he looks none too pleased. So far it doesn’t look like he’s letting it affect his game too much today.
I’m a Maryland kid born and raised and I grew up a Yankees fan, so yeah haha. It’s not like you can cheer for the NATS either
Plus the ‘this is birdland’ marketing thing is annoying as anything. Go Ravens
Andrew
I didn’t see it but thanks for the link. I generally like Howard Bryant’s stuff.
It’s hard for me to believe that there is still a racial bias (at the expense of the overall betterment of the team) with a professional organization like the Sox, but it’s certainly interesting.
Swish is who he is, a .230-.240 hitter with power and a good eye. He’s obviously an average to below average outfielder. That’s not a recipe for the starting right fielder on a championship team. That’s no criticism of Swisher, he’s a good guy who helps the team chemistry, it’s just fact. It would be great to see them get a regular right fielder at the deadline but not at the expense of good prospects, IMO.
Nope, SJ, those were the same 4 I was thinking of. Anything else are the kind of things that happen to all outfielders all the time, even the good ones. I watch the same games you do, and use my eyes. I see a guy who has had a few noticeable mess-ups, but has had solid range and gets to plenty of balls.
You cant have all-stars at every position. Swish is getting on base at a 360 clip with 14 HRs. I have nothing wrong with him. His defense is so-so but he makes up for hit with his bat and by being cheap.
LOL @ A-rods face looking at the car
I would like to see an NFL game at YS.
Pel
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
>just think, without that book, he might be hitting .370 instead of .310.
Exactly.
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there’s a ‘book’ on every hitter in the majors and most in the minors as well, they are called ‘scouting reports’. So what is your point?
“It’s hard for me to believe that there is still a racial bias (at the expense of the overall betterment of the team) with a professional organization like the Sox, but it’s certainly interesting.”
I definitely don’t think there is a bias in their organization, but it is still just kind of weird that the last organization to integrate is also still synonymous with having a predominantly white roster.
Lohud Yankees Blog renamed to Swisher Discussion Den.
the best thing one can say about Swisher is that he’s infinitely better the Wilson Betemit (he of the 0 HRs, 3 RBI and DFA).
however, the only way you can convince me that he has great range in right is to point to the parallel universe where he is demonstrating this range (I’m a big fan of string theory, so this should be interesting).
By the way, responding to something in Pete’s Notebook, I don’t blame Tomko a bit for being angry. Everything he laid out was right on the money.
I’m a thread late.
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Trisha, everything he said was not right on the money. When first called up, he pitched about once every 3 days (not 10) and was inconsistent. He was given a shot, just as everyone else was. When he didnt get the job done consistently, other’s were given a shot. At the end of the day, Joe has to go with guys he can count on – not guys who need another shot. That fact is, Tomko is not as good as he thinks he is. If he was, he would have taken advantage of the shots he got. I know another player who’s great in Spring Training and Triple A – his name is Kei Igawa. Tomko is mediocre at best and was not treated differently than any other pitcher in the organization.
dammit AJ’s getting bored again.
Stop walking people A.J.
Doug (NYC)
Based solely on his bat, how soon could Jesus Montero hold his own in the majors? What do you think his “slashline” would look like if he were promoted today?
Jim Callis
(2:22 PM)
He could probably hold his own in the majors offensively right now, hit around .250 with some power.
im getting sleepy
Vinny,
If you want a below average hitter, runner, thrower and defender, he’s your guy.
There is nothing “fair weather” about it. He’s just not a very good player.
If Nady wasn’t hurt, he would be useful playing 3 days a week.
As an everyday player, he’s a liability.
Pete, I’ll certainly admit Jorge should be starting, and Molina is a great #2. But who would you want behind the plate against the Angels? Noodle-arm Posada, or a gunner like Molina or Cervelli?
On another point, agree the O’s bite (though there is a nice buzz about the pitchers they have coming up). Reason to go to games though, is 1) to catch the visiting team, and 2) Camden Yards is still one of the best parks in the country, even though its like 15 yrs old now.
bend but not break burnett!
>So what is your point?
AJ has really good stuff today but has struggled, he could turn that around and cruise through the next 3 innings or be done after 6 with the Yankees ahead something like 6-2.
where are you all seeing these arod pics?
“Jim Callis
(2:22 PM)
He could probably hold his own in the majors offensively right now, hit around .250 with some power.”
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for a 19 year old…. (if he could do that) – WOW
too bad Montero can’t learn to hit swtich-hit…
Okay Swisher sucks, we get it. New subject please
“On a happier note, A-Rod has donated $250,000 toward a mobile dental clinic that will serve his old New York City stomping grounds.
The clinic will launch tomorrow at Middle Schools 328 and 326 located in Manhattan’s Washington Heights neighborhood, and Rodriguez will appear to sign baseballs and hand out free dental supplies.”
that A-Rod only cares about himself!
Can we swap the hitter and the guy at first… let Gardner run and Swisher hit?
Also from that gossip site article:
“On a happier note, A-Rod has donated $250,000 toward a mobile dental clinic that will serve his old New York City stomping grounds.
The clinic will launch tomorrow at Middle Schools 328 and 326 located in Manhattan’s Washington Heights neighborhood, and Rodriguez will appear to sign baseballs and hand out free dental supplies.”
So nice to see Pete still focusing on the positive side of Alex Rodriguez.
Swishy walks
Dave,
I said earlier in the year Montero is going to make the ballclub out of ST next year and I still believe it.
Depending on how they re-configure the OF, and they will fix the OF in the off-season, Montero could see 30-40 games behind the plate and another 50-60 as the DH.
His bat is too good to waste in Scranton.
Arod, Vlad and Miguel Cabrera. Only 3 hitters I’ve seen at 18-19 who were better than he was at the same age.
He’s that good.
Yes – Gardner at first and nothing but air in front of him.
Pel
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
>So what is your point?
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you make a comment like it’s just been discovered that Cano can be gotten out with balls down and away. If that’s true (I would have to look at his ‘heat zones’ map)every team in the league has known that for the past 3 years. He’s a .300+ lifetime hitter in spite of his weaknesses, how many players in the big leagues can make that claim?
Gardenhoser!
Kate’s nanny probably had trouble handling such a big car. That looks like a Chevy Suburban in those photos. That’s a big car. I’m sure A-Rod is glad that it wasn’t one of his Benzes. No doubt his insurance premiums will go up. I hope he can afford the increase.
Just catching up.
I hope Kate Hudson’s friend is okay.
That’s pretty funny, though. Like she was joyriding or something.
That link to the gossip site led me to some malware sites and tried to download stuff. Be careful…
why couldn’t Jorge jump forward about 5 feet and catch that strikeout pitch to Jones? It’s time to bring back Bob Stanley, I hear he’s available.
Not a knock on A-Rod, but he earns enough in one inning to buy a new Suburban.
I honestly think Montero could have an effect like Miguel Cabrera had for the 2003 Marlins
AJ at 74 pitches after 5. Maybe 7 or 8 innings out of him today…….
it’s so comical to keep watching these pitch count statistics early in the game when all you have to do to know when a pitcher might be coming out is wait for a relief pitcher to start warming up…
“I hope Kate Hudson’s friend is okay.”
She’s fine. She’s in the picture telling Alex what happened. He doesn’t look impressed. LOL!
can someone post the link for the picture
“Arod, Vlad and Miguel Cabrera. Only 3 hitters I’ve seen at 18-19 who were better than he was at the same age.
He’s that good.”
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SJ, thats a pretty strong statement. If he is anywhere close we will have fun watching him hit in the stadium for years to come. And if hes that good then I don’t want any part of Halladay if it includes him and Joba or Hughes.
Combined from tampa and Trenton he is hitting like .378 with 17 jacks
Ninja Burglar, I guess you’re one of those ARod apologists that Pete’s always talking about. Be careful or you’ll get yelled at here.
Those last two innings have not been good at bats by anyone. Ugly, actually. Beginning with Jeter who’s seen 3 pitches.
“can someone post the link for the picture”
It’s in Pete’s original message. Scroll up.
14 total pitches in the 5th inning.
at least it put an end to the birkin bag discussion.
Don’t get me wrong i like the yankees im just wondering, is 5 runs all we can get on a pitcher that stinks?
Better to wreck the Suburban than the Maybach. If the Maybach was in the wreck, nobody would be smiling! lol
“Those last two innings have not been good at bats by anyone. Ugly, actually. Beginning with Jeter who’s seen 3 pitches.”
Jeter is usually aggressive, but he’s been out of control lately. He’s become somewhat of a hacker. You can’t complain though when you look at his stats. He’s having a typical Jeter year.
This talk of Montero is interesting.
If SJ’s predictions are correct, you certainly want to see him come up in September for more than a tour. To see if he can handle major league pitching.
JT – perhaps it is all about expectations. Tomko came to the Yankees as someone who had spent the majority of his life as a starter. He had a tremendous spring training. Naturally he thought he had a shot to make the team. He probably should have. He didn’t. He went to AAA and did a great job there. That’s why he was called up.
While he may not have pitched once every 10 days, nor did he pitch once every 3 days. If you look at the circumstances surrounding the games he was put in, and the amount of time he pitched in those games, maybe it was hardly enough to keep him fresh. Meanwhile he had some games where he really didn’t do well, but he had a lot more where he got the job done.
Tomko should have been gone to the Yankees right out of Spring Training, and he should have been brought as the long man. It didn’t happen.
If I manufactured vacuum cleaners I’d sign Mark Teixiera as my spokesman.
Thats y i hate Kay, YOUR TALKING A BOUT A PURSE DURING A BASEBALL GAME STFU
“Better to wreck the Suburban than the Maybach. If the Maybach was in the wreck, nobody would be smiling! lol”
I don’t care how cute Kate Hudson is, I don’t think Alex is letting anyone else drive his Maybach. If you spend 300K on a car, you don’t let your girlfriend’s nanny drive it.
my god Kate, your friend is a dumbass.
I would have had that same face Al put
WTH did you do to my car
Wow swish
another one! gotdamn
Well if Gardner can’t steal a base then what good is he? (TIC)
His range is awful…
Another nice play for Swisher.
Swish 2, Ball 1
He does keep it interesting out there…
And that’s what I mean about Swish. He absolutely makes you forget the maddening mishaps!
lol swish is mad …he wants to redeem himself
Nice change up today
That was a textbook catch against the wall. He must be watching and learning from Markakis
Buck Nasty
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Combined from tampa and Trenton he is hitting like .378 with 17 jacks
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Disregarding your exaggerations, but, Montero’s hitting a combined .334 and 15 homers. He’s still the real deal, at least as of now.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=524968
“Well if Gardner can’t steal a base then what good is he? (TIC)”
You wouldn’t say that if he were getting a single. He’s been on the bench for 4-5 games so he is not exactly game ready.
And by the way I’m not lobbying for Tomko to stay at this point, just saying that I agree with him that he wasn’t given the opportunity to prove his worth and certainly not provided the opportunities that his pitching (to those points) should have brought him.
I saw a Maybach in Upper Saddle River recently. It appeared to have dentist chairs for back seats.
pitch counts only really play a role in close games. In games like this, where the Yankees are comfortably ahead, AJ will either pitch 7 innings or until he starts getting knocked around. If the lead stays at 5, Girardi will probably give Robertson an inning and maybe Bruney an inning if it doesn’t get closer.
i really want melancon d-rob and bruney to get an inning each this game…aj is at 89 pitches right now..does girardi pull him?..prbly not
Yanks might not score again. They sense a win and getting home 5, a rarity on a weekday.
The last few innings are going to go quick.
so I guess the extra rest the Yanks got during the ASB actually did help
(in a good way) this is getting ridiculous
89 pitches for AJ
where are these arod/car pics?
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! (Can we steal Jonathan Sanchez already)
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
TIC – means tongue in cheek!! LOL!
the only way all three relievers get in the game is if the Yankees score a few runs (or more) this inning. Start rooting!!!!!
O’s are mailing it in, absent a bullpen implosion this one should be in the bag soon.
http://www.baseballamerica.com.....68579.html
Baseball Americas List of Untouchables
“where are these arod/car pics?”
http://www.sassyqarla.com/2009.....00234.html
“And by the way I’m not lobbying for Tomko to stay at this point, just saying that I agree with him that he wasn’t given the opportunity to prove his worth and certainly not provided the opportunities that his pitching (to those points) should have brought him.”
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I agree, but you can make a case for it either way. Tomko should see that.
At this point in his career, he’s sort of typecast. Unless he really excels (and he did not), it’s going to be hard for him to be seen as anything other than a blowout game innings eater.
Berken has potential, it’s just a matter of whether the O’s have patience with him and whether he continues to develop.
When’s the last time the Yankees had double digits in hits?
Angel series?
Not only could Montero hit .250 right now in the major leagues, he could also change Gatorade into world class chardonnay. He’s that good.
“Jeter is usually aggressive, but he’s been out of control lately. He’s become somewhat of a hacker.”
The thing about Jeter, though, is that he rarely has bad AB’s when the game’s on the line. I think he’s aggressive as a leadoff hitter but he does know how to adjust his approach according to game situations, unlike Cano.
BA lists Montero as an untouchable
“Scouts who cover the Yankees organization are fond of saying the team over-values its own prospects, but the scouting consensus is that Montero is the real deal. He has premium raw power and pure hitting ability to go with it. If he can catch, he could have a Mike Piazza-esque career. More than likely, he’s New York’s future DH, and the Yankees’ asking price for him is prohibitive.”
David Phelps got promoted from the Riverdogs to the Tampa Yankees today, as he is 10-3 with the Dogs, with a 2.80 ERA.
Jairo Heredia will go down to Charleston, and Trenton Lare will be promoted to Charleston from Staten Island.
Here is the article from our newspaper: http://www.postandcourier.com/.....ampa_team/
Trisha, you’re right. He was called up in May. In May and June he pitched once every 4.18 days and had a 5.51 ERA. He’s 36 years old. He’s gotten his shots. He was a serviceable arm when we needed him. But, as I said before, he’s mediocre at best. Maybe he deserved to make it out of Spring Training, but he didn’t. When he did get his shot (and he DID get a fair one) he didn’t produce. That said, he did do what we needed him to do (fill some innings). And at 36, got more of a shot than most teams would give him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=3658
If he does clear waivers, he should accept a minor league assignment, cause that means no other team wants him.
don’t be surprised to see Tomko picked up by either the Giants or Dodgers. He’s pitched in SF before and could be a useful addition to either bullpen down the stretch.
The Yankees are a 1,2,7,8 and 9 inning team. Those middle innings are consistently non events. I bet if someone checked, they’d find that we haven’t scored in those innings in several games.
David Phelps is a very impressive young pitcher. He knows what he’s doing on the mound.
that BA article isn’t necessarily the best prospects though.
(though Montero certainly is one of them)
Question – a colleague at work (who happens to be a yankee fan but is from Germany)wants to know why teams don’t use relievers/closers instead of starters. Like have 12 relievers/closers pitcihng 1-2 innings each a night.
I’m sure there is a good reason why, I just can’t think of it right now, but I knew someone here would be able to give me an answer to share back.
Thanks!
IDK what to cheer for AJ CG or AJ to 8th to D-Rob to Melancon
@Laura
They scored 5 runs in the 3rd/4th combined last night.
Bruney is more likely to pitch today than Melancon, Girardi knows if he can get him going it will really help down the stretch.
Unless she backed into something, the insurance company of the person who hit her is the one thinking thank godness it wasn’t the Maybach.
“They scored 5 runs in the 3rd/4th combined last night.”
If they did, it was a rarity.
Tomko had to be called up by June 1st, I believe, or he would become a FA, per his contract. Someone tell me why Johnson is still on the AAA roster?
Yesterday someone mentioned that we would need to obtain a home run hitter to offset the loss of Damon and Matsui’s homeruns, someone like Holliday.
I don’t agree. The Angels clobbered us with only one home run hitter-Rivera in their lineup. IMHO, I’d be quite happy with FA Chone Figgins, versatile switch-hitter to play LF and some 3B, rather than signing Boras client Holliday to a long term deal at big $$$$$.
“Unless she backed into something, the insurance company of the person who hit her is the one thinking thank godness it wasn’t the Maybach.”
I don’t know. Alex’s face didn’t say “Thank God someone else’s insurance is going to cover this”. I wasn’t there so I could be wrong.
Coke or Hughes or Aceves will pitch the 8th, when it’s a 4 run lead you don’t take chances.
hmm… Yussssse
with Hughes up he will probably pitch the last 2 innings unless he gets in trouble or the Yankees score more runs to put it out of reach.
Maybe it’s me, but if I were rich, I don’t think I’d spend 300K on a single car. I might buy 3 cars worth 100K each, but I wouldn’t blow that whole load on one car. Seems a bit much. This coming from a huge car fan.
com’on Georgy !
That’s the pitch that Posada needs to be able to block.
Jorge should have had that one and he knows it.
typical pete blather with the Cervelli dig (good for page impressions & banner ads)… now Posada causing a wild pitch (looking afraid to catch the bouncing ball).
ROTFLMAO.
Youuuuuse pitching the 8th?
GJ AJ!
“That’s the pitch that Posada needs to be able to block.”
Bring up Cervelli.
How many 3rd strike get on base has that been this season ???? I’ve never seen so many……
How is Bruney Melancon Robertson suppose to stay sharp when they get no work?
The games have been tight but still…
Boston Dave you are right about Tomko. He is typecast and I guess he should have seen that.
JT – without opening every single game, I cannot imagine any pitcher who would be happy being called into games only when they are totally out of reach or not until they are into extra innings. That said, the unfortunate thing for Tomko is that when he was brought up, it was probably with the anticipation of being used as the long man. But Girardi was having other problems with the team at the time and probably didn’t have the luxury of setting things up that way. In addition, he had several relievers go down at once and stayed with the ones with whom he had the greatest comfort. Tomko hadn’t been able to prove to Girardi that he was one of those guys. Circumstances led to what they led to.
If Tomko has any bullets left, naturally I hope he gets to use them.
“UPDATE, 2:09 p.m.: That Posada HR reminds me, how are the Yankees winning all these games and pitching so well without Johnny Bench Cervelli calling every pitch and showing so much energy”
that’s the orioles, now can you figure it out if it was a close game and Posada struggles again on a passed ball? That’s an important run in.
Cervelli would’ve had that old great master
RS
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
That’s the pitch that Posada needs to be able to block.
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That was a hard breaking curve straight into the dirt and spun to the left. great pitch but, few if any catcher was going to block it. without a doubt, Burnett has to be the toughest pitcher on the team and probably in either league.
I think Sterling is usually a gasbag, but I like his nickname of “The Final Four” for Aceves, Coke, Hughes, and Rivera.
Well AJ made it to 7 innings,but too many walks is his problem.
GC
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
typical pete blather with the Cervelli dig (good for page impressions & banner ads)… now Posada causing a wild pitch (looking afraid to catch the bouncing ball).
ROTFLMAO.
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Agreed. Best part of Posada catching is his hitting. Dat’s it. He doesn’t even attempt to make plays at the plate most of the time. Sorry, the truth hurts sometimes.
“Bruney is more likely to pitch today than Melancon, Girardi knows if he can get him going it will really help down the stretch.”
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I agree.
I’m not ready to give up on Bruney by any means.
Maybe he’s hurt, maybe he just needs to smarten up, but I still remember the guy who made hitters look foolish earlier THIS season.
Here is the likely conversation between Jorge and AJ in the dugout:
Jorge: sorry, AJ, I should have blocked it but good pitch on the next guy.
AJ: no problem, Jorge, I didn’t have to bounce it to get the strikeout so it’s on me just as much.
Lets break this game open here please. Gardner needs to get on base and squeak a run across.
Please, not the Posada vs. Cervelli debate again. Cervelli isn’t as good a catcher as Posada.
Burnett is tough to catch when that curveball hits the dirt.
You aren’t sitting Posada to play Cervelli.
If this team can survive Nick Swisher in the OF, it can survive Jorge Posada behind the plate.
How is that an “Important” run? Aren’t they still winning 5-2?
If the games are tight, questionable guys aren’t going to pitch.
You stay sharp in the bullpen as best you can. That’s just the way it goes.
Winning games is more important than “working guys in”.
Correction: the ball spun right.
if Cervelli had been in there that run never would have scored. Not because he would have blocked that pitch but because AJ would be throwing a perfect game and no one would have been on base…obviously
also, how could AJ ever throw a wild pitch to Cervelli with those eyes to aim for?
“great pitch but, few if any catcher was going to block it.”
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agreed.
Posada leaves himself open to criticism at times, but I don’t think that pitch qualifies.
I’d prefer this argument were put to rest. Posada’s not a gold glover but he gives the Yanks their best chance to win games.
But as long as there is this “debate” going on, we’re going to hear about Posada being horrible every single time something isn’t done perfectly (pitch calls, plays at the plate, throwing out runners, blocking pitches, etc)
Sterling’s been waiting for a group to replace “The Triumvirate” (Nelson, Stanton & Mo.)
Good for him.
That was a hard breaking curve straight into the dirt and spun to the left. great pitch but, few if any catcher was going to block it. without a doubt, Burnett has to be the toughest pitcher on the team and probably in either league.
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I agree, with Wakefield being a close second. When Bob Horner was playing for the Braves, I asked him if I’d have a better chance hitting against Niekro rather than someone throwing 95mph, He told me forget trying to hit the knuckleball!!!
For someone not able to watch the game — who’s been warming up for the Yanks in the bullpen?
Hughes
tex knows how that feels on the other side
Yuuuuuuuusssssse !
go to melancon in the 8th. can’t go to hughes in every game. and the other guys haven’t pitched since before the all star game.
Runner on 2nd, 0 outs. Runners on 1st and 3rd, 1 out. 0 Runs….UGH
The Giambino possibly hanging up his thong?
http://bigurb.mlblogs.com/arch.....for_g.html
No reason to waste Hughes. We have a 3 run lead.
When are Melancon and Bruney ever going to pitch?
The vaunted GDIP is alive and well!
Yankee Trader
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
That was a hard breaking curve straight into the dirt and spun to the left. great pitch but, few if any catcher was going to block it. without a doubt, Burnett has to be the toughest pitcher on the team and probably in either league.
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I agree, with Wakefield being a close second. When Bob Horner was playing for the Braves, I asked him if I’d have a better chance hitting against Niekro rather than someone throwing 95mph, He told me forget trying to hit the knuckleball!!!
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Mantle said the same thing in an interview. He said that when he faced Hoyt Wilhem, he did two things. He batted right handed and moved towards the mound to hit the ball before it broke. He did the same thing against Eddie Fisher, another knuckleballer.
Sam
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
go to melancon in the 8th. can’t go to hughes in every game. and the other guys haven’t pitched since before the all star game
You manage to win the game when ur up by three not to make sure everyone can get a chance to pitch
Yeah, as much as it would be great to see one of the other relievers get some work, we can’t take our foot off the gas with the way we’re clicking right now. Maybe if we were up 5 runs, but only up 3 we have to go for the kill with Hughes and Mo.
JasonR
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I think Sterling is usually a gasbag, but I like his nickname of “The Final Four” for Aceves, Coke, Hughes, and Rivera.
When Bruney is back to form it will be the “Final Five”
So Say We All!
To answer Pete’s question, you go to a rested Hughes with a 3 run lead.
Can’t risk Bruney since he’s been awful since his last DL stand.
May not be fair but, baseball ain’t about being fair. Its about winning games.
Hughes give you a better chance to win so, you go to Hughes.
Easy decision.
Hughes was going to pitch the 8th even if the Yankees broke it open, they aren’t going to warm him up two games in a row without using him.
I don’t understand the preoccupation with giving the 10, 11, and 12 th pitchers on the staff ‘work’. They have to earn it and wait for their spots, you don’t jeopardize wins at this point in the season when you have Hughes ready to go. I pitched in college and was one of the ‘mop up’ guys, I knew I wasn’t pitching in tight games and while I didn’t like it there was nothing that was going to change unless I did something to show I was better than someone else.
Nasty curve
I think Hughes can go 2 innings here and give MO the day off
I think Hughes can go 2 innings here and give MO the day off
“No reason to waste Hughes. We have a 3 run lead.
When are Melancon and Bruney ever going to pitch?”
when it’s a 5+ run game. Baby steps w/ them. And really 3 run game your trying to get it to Mo for the sv.
maybe we’ll bust it open even more in the bottom of the inning so you guys can see Bruney or one of the other mopits.
That’s just nasty. Following a 95 MPH fastball with a great 77 MPH quick breaking curve.
They just cannot break it open. This is not good at all. Offense falling into sleep. Key arms in the bullpen over-used. A losing streak may be on the way.
Hughes was already up in the 7th in case AJ gave up another hit or 2 so he was coming in to the game no matter what. That was the criticism of Joe Torre, that he warmed up guys like Sturze and Proctor all the time even though they might not be used and it burned them out. I didn’t really agree with the criticism but if I’m managing Hughes was pitching today.
“I think Hughes can go 2 innings here and give MO the day off”
He can but they won’t.
Hoyt Wilhelm no hit the Yankees in September of 1958 1-0. Phil Niekro also pitched a no-hitter.
Any other knuckleballers pitch no hitters?
Mo was stretching so he may pitch the 9th but I could see leaving Hughes out there for the 9th although it could be a save situation.
A losing streak is on the way? Come on now. We are going to take three out of four from Oakland.
“They just cannot break it open. This is not good at all. Offense falling into sleep. Key arms in the bullpen over-used. A losing streak may be on the way.”
yea totally…not!
“They just cannot break it open. This is not good at all. Offense falling into sleep. Key arms in the bullpen over-used. A losing streak may be on the way.”
You’re really stretching to find something to complain about aren’t you?
The other guys are not going to get any better just sitting there on the bench. Robertson, Bruney and Melacon need to get in there and give it a go. 3 runs is still plenty of space to give these guys a try. We are going to need them down the stretch and if they don’t get in games now, how can we trust them later? If they bungle it up, sitll got Hughes and Mo to close it out if it gets closer.
But seriously we have to give these other guys a chance to get better…otherwise we are going to be in a world of trouble.
“No reason to waste Hughes. We have a 3 run lead.
When are Melancon and Bruney ever going to pitch?”
when it’s a 5+ run game. Baby steps w/ them. And really 3 run game your trying to get it to Mo for the sv.”
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exactly.
plus “the best bullpen in baseball” gave up a 9 run lead against these same O’s not too long ago
no lead is safe
Zaun has been a real pain with the bat, today.
“How do people actually become fans of the Orioles? They have not had a winning season since 1997. If I was a kid in Maryland I’d run away from home and find a better team. At least the Ravens are pretty good.”
I cannot believe this is a serious question. So are you suggesting that you pick the team you root for based on their being the cool team? More likely people choose their team because they love the sport and they grow up around the area in question. Unless you get it from your parents and your parents are not from the area in question (the way I got my love of the Yanks from my mom) that is typically the way it happens.
Credit to the solid citizens who root for their hometown teams through thick and thin and don’t need to look around the league for a “better” team or to run away from home because they are disappointed that their team hasn’t had a winning season in 12 years. It’s not like the team is going out there trying to lose. Maybe Baltimore in one of the other divisions would have a winning season.
But even if they didn’t, so in hell what. They deserve to have fans who love them and cheer them on.
I hate frontrunners.
Hughes loses Vaughn after being up 0-2 in the count…..
Melancon and Bruney can figure it out throwing BPs.
“They just cannot break it open. This is not good at all. Offense falling into sleep. Key arms in the bullpen over-used. A losing streak may be on the way.”
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even 1st place and a 6 game winning streak can’t keep some down
you worry about todays game today and your worry about others days game on another day
““How do people actually become fans of the Orioles? They have not had a winning season since 1997. If I was a kid in Maryland I’d run away from home and find a better team. At least the Ravens are pretty good.”
I cannot believe this is a serious question”
Easy there, I’m pretty sure it was not a serious question.
Hughes has to be leading the league in 0-2 counts since he became a reliever.
double play gj jete
Nice DP!
nice job jeter!
Its not about “getting Bruney and Melancon better”. Its about winning games.
Spring training is over.
A 3 run lead against a good hitting team in the AL is nothing.
You go with your best and he gets the job done.
That’s how you take over first place.
another good job by Hughes and the worst defensive shortstop in baseball…
The more I hear about HOPE week, the more impressed I become. I hope it’s an idea that takes off all around baseball.
It may sound corny, but it makes me proud to be a Yankee fan.
SJ, hopefully some of them will figure it out one day…
Phil in relief is soooo goood !
Good comeback by Phil….on another note….have to go to work…so let me get this out of the way….THE YANKEES WIN….THE YANKKKKKKEEESSSSS WINNNNN!!!!
Captain DP! — the good kind!
Youuuuse!
This is a save situation. I think we will see Mo
Playing the game day by day is no good. Its whole season that is important…not the single game.
And BP is no substitute for a game situation….ask Wang.
Hughes threw 16 pitches that inning i think you can try him in the 9th
Hughes threw 16 pitches that inning i think you can try him in the 9th
Hmmmm. Girardi said that Cervelli and Molina were better defensive catchers than Posada but of course the lohud “scholars” know better.
Anyway, who cares at this point. Pete brought it up and opened the can of worms.
FWIW – I vote for Girardi. No offense SJ!
it would be fantastic if they could score several runs and not have to use mo
Who’s that awful shortstop everyone keep’s saying the Yankees have???
The one playing today looks just fine…
MG,
The fixation with the 11th and 12th man on a pitching staff and 25th guy on the roster is fascinating to me.
Those guys are just fodder. They aren’t going to be difference makers.
In a division this competitive, everytime you have a chance to win a game in the later innings, you have to go with your best.
If the O isn’t there at the present time to give the other guys work, that’s life.
Win games and don’t worry about how Melancon, Bruney, etc “survive”. Its not important.
Alex is feeling good
MO would have pitched 5 of the last 6 days… might as well give him a day off.
I know managers play by the books, but a 3-run lead isin’t THAT close. You have some margin for error, not like a 1 or 2 run game where the guy could hit a bloop and a blast and be tied.
Jeter found the fountain of youth in Florida and built a giant house on it
To anyone watching game, I know PH got the 3 outs, what kind of pitches did he throw, how was the curve? Thank you.
My vote for Swisher getting the belt and todays pie ala face!
arod stealing bases is a welcome sight
Yankee Trader
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Hoyt Wilhelm no hit the Yankees in September of 1958 1-0. Phil Niekro also pitched a no-hitter.
Any other knuckleballers pitch no hitters?
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The only two that I can think of is Eddie Cicott of the White Sox (Black Sox) and Ken Johnson of the Colt .45s.
“To anyone watching game, I know PH got the 3 outs, what kind of pitches did he throw, how was the curve? Thank you.”
he had a great curve..struck out the leadoff batter with 1
Peter R, you just don’t understand how major league baseball managers think. They want to win as many games as possible and keep the bullpen as fresh as possible. That means you don’t overwork your best relievers but you don’t keep them out of a close game if they can pitch. You may just as well accept that, it isn’t going to change.
“Easy there, I’m pretty sure it was not a serious question.”
Maybe you’re right.
You know how I go. The worse the team, the more I root for them to succeed. I’ve always described myself as a hedonist with a heart!
Anyway Hoke, I trust your judgment, so I will let that one go:
“if Cervelli had been in there that run never would have scored. Not because he would have blocked that pitch but because AJ would be throwing a perfect game and no one would have been on base…obviously
also, how could AJ ever throw a wild pitch to Cervelli with those eyes to aim for?”
BINGO!
NICE, JORGE!
I forgot Tillman was in on that Bedard trade.
Wow, Seattle got fleeced.
sorry mo…no save today
Doesn’t Mo need a day to rest?
He’s 40 years old.
Unless it’s a save thing and Mo want’s the save I’d let him have a day.
Oh…
Never Mind
HIP HIP…
Hip Hip Jorge!
Definitely have Phil finish it out now, and pick up the save (a portent of things to come?)
If we could pitch Hughes 1 to 2 innings every 1 or 2 days I will take that. Great way to get him innings.
if I lived in Baltimore I think I would have become a fan of the stadium and maybe down the road a fan of the team.
Nice work Jorge
Definitely have Phil finish it out now, and pick up the save (a portent of things to come?)
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No
The YES radar gun said that Joba threw a 97 MPH curveball to Ramon Santiago.
no soup for you, Mo!!!
In fact, the talent Baltimore got for Bedard is so much better than what Minny got for Santana it’s scary.
I was going to say four times better, but I’m tempted to say ten times…
He didn’t say they better CATCHERS than Jorge, Trisha.
The position requires you to hit AND catch.
The COMBINATION of the two is what makes Jorge much better than Molina and Cervelli. That’s why he plays.
Another example of why with that double.
If you are grading them on a 1-10 scale, 10 being the highest grade you can get, Posada is a 9 as a hitter and a 7 as a catcher. That’s 16.
Cervelli is a 7 as a catcher and a 4 as a hitter. That’s 11.
Molina is a 2 as a hitter and a 10 as a defender for 12.
The difference is that wide between the players.
Finally get to see Bruney pitch!
Michael Kay is cracking me up today. Sorry, but he is.
Baltimore always seems to have some good young kids so there’s always that feeling you have something to look forward to…unfortunately for their fans, things never seem to actually pan out.
oh snaps…gardner gonna make em pay!
an intentional walk for Swish, that will inflate his ego lol
“an intentional walk for Swish, that will inflate his ego lol”
A pie in the face should help with that
Bruney warming up. Everyone will get there wish we all are happy.
“Posada is a 9 as a hitter and a 7 as a catcher. That’s 16.
Cervelli is a 7 as a catcher and a 4 as a hitter. That’s 11.”
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SJ44
right or wrong, you’re suggestion that Posada and Cervelli are equals defensively is going to open the onslaught
Ralphie D, Thanks for the info!
C’mon Gardy… put one in the RF seats!!!
GJ Gardner
yea! way to make em pay gardy lol
I take it back- no save for Mo
Bring on Hughes!
Well don’t come crying to me when in a months time some silly injuries start bugging our main guys and the other 3 relievers haven’t seen the mound since early July. Need i remind you all that Mo and Hughes were both recently injured. I say if it is not essential to use them, get the other guys in and get them going….we are going to need them. Its about making the postseason and then winning it all…not just winning games…and we still have half a season to go….I hope Joe knows that.
GB, if Jeter hits the first pitch in an alley for a bases clearing double will you still complain that he isn’t seeing enough pitches? lol
Willie Mays Gardner!
“Well don’t come crying to me when in a months time some silly injuries start bugging our main guys and the other 3 relievers haven’t seen the mound since early July. Need i remind you all that Mo and Hughes were both recently injured. I say if it is not essential to use them, get the other guys in and get them going….we are going to need them. Its about making the postseason and then winning it all…not just winning games…and we still have half a season to go….I hope Joe knows that.”
hughes was not recently injured and one thing joe knows is that the yanks are 1 game up in the division and he would like it to stay that way
HokieHill
Willie Mays Hayes Gardner! LOL!
Guess i may be stretching definition of recent…lol
“He didn’t say they better CATCHERS than Jorge, Trisha.
The position requires you to hit AND catch.”
SJ – absolutely and unequivocally, and on that front I have never ever had any question.
Isn’t this an odd game? How can you figure baseball? The Yankees get swept in Los Angeles, and everyone thinks the season’s over? If there’s anyone that can explain baseball, give them my number.
“JAWN! Your pancakes are getting cold.”
Dave,
He is throwing 29% of the baserunners out he’s faced this year. That’s above average in today’s game.
Contrary to popular belief, he works well well with the staff.
The pitching has been lights out for awhile now. Who has been the catcher in those games?
The guy is a borderline HOF player. He’s better than a rookie.
Hard for some to belief but, mythbusting is my second hobby! lol
Peter R, do you watch baseball games in an alternate universe or something?
The last time Robertson pitched he walked the bases loaded and also forced in a run, Bruney hasn’t pitched well and Melancon hasn’t earned the right to pitch in any meaningful role. So, if you bring in one of them and they give up a couple of runs you have to pitch Hughes and/or Mo anyway. That’s what gets managers fired.
Why even bring in Bruney? He’s just going to walk the bases loaded and we’ll have to go to MO anyway.
Atleast Melancon throws strikes and gets quick outs.
the only reason why it might look like hughes and mo are getting overused (which they are not) is because the yanks are winning so much and winning so many close games…it will even out (hopefully not in the losing way)
I’m guessing Bruney is pitching today because he’s been throwing really well in his side sessions so I think this is a good sign.
Bruney hitting 95 but doesn’t look like he’s trying to throw it through a wall
good sign
95 mph fb followed by 90.5 mph slider…bruney’s stuff might be back
“right or wrong, you’re suggestion that Posada and Cervelli are equals defensively is going to open the onslaught”
Oops! Missed that part, and thanks Boston Dave!
SJ, no offense, but I vote for Girardi over you once again. He didn’t say they were equal defensively but Posada was better offensively. He said that Molina and Cervelli were BETTER DEFENSIVE CATCHERS.
Only in your world would that allow Cervelli and Posada to both get scores of 7!
THANKS BOSTON DAVE!!!!!
MG
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
GB, if Jeter hits the first pitch in an alley for a bases clearing double will you still complain that he isn’t seeing enough pitches? lol
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Just like everyone complains about Cano for banging the ball into the gap on the first pitch.
On that sad, sad day when Mo retires, Hughes would be a suitable replacement.
Unlike Joba, Phil does not have a plus third or fourth pitch. Of course, that’s a few yrs down the road, and Phil could perfect his change-up in the interim.
Just thinking extemporaneously here…
Well hey there Bruney
Jeter sucks…..
I know it is a 4 run lead and one inning but it is good to see Bruney throwing like the old Bruney
“Why even bring in Bruney? He’s just going to walk the bases loaded and we’ll have to go to MO anyway.
Atleast Melancon throws strikes and gets quick outs.”
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when has Melancon just thrown strikes as a member of the Yankees?
he has 5 walks in 5 2/3 IP
“Bruney hitting 95 but doesn’t look like he’s trying to throw it through a wall”
You watching the same Brunney I am ?
Bruney 2ks nice lets get 1 mo
Re: Tomko. He’ll be fine. Guys like him are around for a reason.
And he didn’t have a chance since spring training when he didn’t even make the team. No one had any grand illusions that he was going to be a major contributor.
He wasn’t horrible, he just wasn’t good enough for the Yankees. Just as Edwar and Veras weren’t.
You hate to see guys cut, but there are just too many arms in the system. And that’s a good thing.
Tomcats always land on their feet.
GreenBeret7
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
MG
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
GB, if Jeter hits the first pitch in an alley for a bases clearing double will you still complain that he isn’t seeing enough pitches? lol
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Just like everyone complains about Cano for banging the ball into the gap on the first pitch.
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lol
Then gives up homer
That’s why you work Bruney into games with big leads and not in close games. Just not trustworthy in closer games yet.
shake it off bruney!
“THANKS BOSTON DAVE!!!!!”
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you’re welcome… except I’m hoping (if the debate does continue) that things stay friendly!
Hmm- I would bring in Mo for a one out save now
back to back homers
I take back my statement earlier
eek!
Umm okay………….
ok you can stop that now…
mother….Tomko
Umm- NOW, NOW, NOW
I WANT MO!
I WANT MO!
Oh my goodness gracious, please no more Posadagate. Every one of its myths has been debunked and exploded. These are your 2009 New York Yankees. Love them!
(even Bruney… for now)
2 Ks and 2 HRs? Talk about a mixed outing.
Come on, Bruney…I’d rather see the walks than this.
Oy.
PUT IN MARIANO RIGHT NOW GIRARDI!!!!!!
Bruney is still risky to bring in to close games I guess. His control looks a bit better and his stuff is there but the command isn’t there totally. That fastball was FAT
“Hard for some to belief but, mythbusting is my second hobby! lol”
Don’t give up your day job!
ORIOLES, I am very sorry that that Yankees have treated you so poorly. Perhaps if we were way ahead in the division a game to your good wouldn’t hurt. But we can’t. Not right now.
But take heart, because Boston hasn’t been lighting up the town lately. I will root my heart out for you when today is over.
HOLY CRAP MEANWHILE! I wonder what Bruney will have to say after the game. Yowsa.
Now you have to get him out of there before he blows the lead altogether.
Hopefully, the kiddies who insist that Girardi “work guys” in are now silent on this subject for the rest of the year.
And Bruney might not be far behind Tomko.
back to back
wow. just wow.
and people thought he was the bullpen savior a month ago?
Poor Bruney.
Sigh.
Good bye, Brian. Get him OUT OF THERE, Joe!
Dan
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I take back my statement earlier
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Hahaha. I caught you. You were the jinx!
Oh how the apple has fallen far from the tree.
What do you guys expect Bruney’s control to be like when he hasn’t been in a game in almost 2 weeks?
Throwing bullpens is nothing like pitching in a game situation. If you never use him, you have to expect these kinds of inconsistent outings from him.
Bruney went from promising to fail in a matter of seconds.
amazing how i can go from feeling good about bruney after the first 2 batters to this….wow
Man that’s one pathetic outing by Bruney. Gets a few strikeouts then starts laying it in there. Yeah dude, you can throw 95, that doesn’t mean you can groove it down the middle!
Bruney is writing his ticket out of NY.
Bruney hasn’t been right since his showdown with K-Rod.
prediction: 1 pitch, 1 out.
I can’t get mad at Markakis.
Bruney? That’s another matter all together.
Trisha,
What are you talking about? Girardi is “voting” for Posada everyday by PLAYING him.
It ain’t that hard to figure out.
If Francisco Cervelli was a better catcher than Jorge Posada, he would be playing. He’s in AAA for a reason.
Dr. Andrews waiting by the phone…
Bring in Joba to pitch to Huff!
bahahaha
Laura
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Bruney hasn’t been right since his showdown with K-Rod.
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Maybe K-Rod has a voodoo doll
Pete the only thing Bruney has shown,is even with a good lead, he still can’t pitch!!
“Oh my goodness gracious, please no more Posadagate. Every one of its myths has been debunked and exploded. These are your 2009 New York Yankees. Love them!”
Talk to Pete. He brought it up!
Meanwhile, there was no myth about Posada being an average defensive catcher. That’s widely accepted as fact. So there was nothing to bust there. About the rest, it appears Posada has done a good job of getting on the same page with his pitchers. Credit to him!
Matt,
Sorry. That’s not rust. That’s Bruney. He hasn’t been the same since he went on the DL.
Bruney, without that big slider, he can’t get very good hitters out with just a fastball.
“Hopefully, the kiddies who insist that Girardi “work guys” in are now silent on this subject for the rest of the year.”
Pretty sure you are overreacting here. I want Bruney to get work but not in close games. This was the first game in awhile where we had SOMEWHAT of a cushion. Unfortunately Bruney did a very poor job of keeping that cushion.
Hopefully the Yanks offense can blow teams out more often and give Bruney/Melancon more opportunities.
if i was Bruney I would just punch a water cooler and break my hand
Bruney allowed two HRs: Fact.
Bruney showed that he can be dominant: Fact.
Don’t forget the strikeouts when you’re looking at the homeruns and vice versa.
He needed to avoid allowing runs so that we didn’t have to use Mo, but considering that he’s not worked in a while, that was a positive outing in my mind.
Good moving forward.
Bruney hadn’t pitched in about 10 days. What did you really expect?
The Greatest….EVER!
lol i still sticking by my guns. Got him some playing time and some Ks, Mo still has his save (probably) and we still win the game. We get to see where he is in a real situation (mixed apparently). We gonna need more guys…its good to know where they stand. no?
MARIANO!
I’m glad they brought Bruney in to pitch.
We now know that he cannot be trusted next week against Tampa or Boston in meaningful spots.
So thank you to Bruney for showing Joe not to use you when it counts.
And again – a knock on those clowns who thought earlier in the season that we should “wait until Bruney gets back.” What a joke.
Unfortunately, what Bruney needs is work. He’s hardly pitched since early May.
The only problem with that is he has no options left so he can’t be sent down to get that work he needs.
Getting him back to what he was in April would be yet another huge lift for the pen.
Mo.
because Mariano won’t do the fist pump in Aubrey Huff’s face…
I did it for him in my living room!!
6 in a row, yeah baby!!!
Back to Back sweeps!
Mo to the rescue.Bruney is crap!
This is the perfect time for Mo to throw the 2 seamer
Bruney did his job: He gave Mariano a save situation.
trisha, you should not be talking trash about Posadagate. Seriously.
“Don’t give up your day job!”
Uncalled for. Unless you’ve asked Pete to go back and delete some of your comments on this subject, it’s all on the record. Pete controls his own keyboard, not yours.
Bruney, no good.
Mo has been racking up wins rapidly since the ASB.
Mo pitching 6 games in 7 days isnt good. The guy is 39 freaking years old. Oh well, 20 games over!!
Yankees are allowed facial hair now?
Sweep!
Pete-Take it easy. Your words only fuel the fire. Bruney has hardly pitched of late. The guy is rusty. Plus, the 2 HR’s he gave up were to the best o’s hitters.
So Mo came in-He got the 1 out needed and we won. It’s not like he pitched 2 innings because of a blown save.
Would it be asking too much for us to sweep OAK as well?
Watching that man in the wheelchair and the little boy, and the Yankees shaking their hands, absolutely makes me cry. God bless them all.
GO RANGERS!!
GO ORIOLES!!! (that’s for the next several games)
I think fans lose sight of the fact that the purpose of playing these games is to WIN. The purpose is not to get your favorite player some playing time.
I tend to notice this especially with fans of Hughes. They treat the games like opportunities to further his development. It’s not all about your favorite players, it’s about the team.
Yeah, it’d be better for Bruney if he got more innings, but is it better for the team?
He’ll get his shots in games like today when the Yanks have 4+ run leads. There is no point in letting him pitch close games until he’s proven he can consistently get outs.
The same goes for Robertson, Hughes, Melancon, etc
Radio Star of the Game = Jorge Posada
quotes
“Bruney 95mph”
“We need him to pitch a little bit more” (to get him back to form)
“We’ll come back and try to make sense of it all.”
that’s a shot.
“Would it be asking too much for us to sweep OAK as well?”
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nope… and the Big G won’t make it to the party.
Nick pushing the definition of a 5 o’clock shadow to the limit.
Easiest save in Mo’s career?
Bruney = AAA material.
Throws 95 but right down the middle.
lol going for 3 sweeps. Sad wont be seeing the Big-G though. Mustache day last year was the greatest.
go to melancon in the 8th. can’t go to hughes in every game. and the other guys haven’t pitched since before the all star game
Melancon has proven he can’t handle or at the very least is not ready to handle major league hitters in ANY situation. The guy has an average fastball and below average command of his pitches. If he can’t pitch the 5th in a blow out, he certainly can’t pitch the 8th in a pressure situation.
How can you blame Bruney for being rusty?
Joe NEVER uses him. Remember what Edwar looked like when Torre let him sit for 2 weeks?
Right now, bullpen roles are set. For Bruney to make a dent, he has to pitch better.
Its not about what’s fair to him. Its about what’s best for the team.
If he continues to fail, his role becomes more and more marginalized. Its survival of the fittest at this stage of the year.
Unfortunately for Bruney, the injuries and lack of work has sapped his command. That’s why he will probably stay in a mop up role for the rest of the year.
Swisher’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63024958b6cd885e/
bruneys location last year and earlier this year was much much better.
he is throwing it down the middle needs to change that quickly else he will be sent to siberia….
aj pitched well the 2 runs were a joke…andino’s hit was a joke and the passball K was typical AJ and jorge is not exactly johnny bench.
good win, just keep on winning games you should…..
4 more wins in a row and Girardi has to get a Swish-hawk.
“and Aubrey was her name….”
Bruney = AAA material.
Throws 95 but right down the middle.
I think you’re being unfair to Bruney. The guy had not pitched in 12 days. You gotta look at the positive. He came in a blew 2 guys away and had much better command than when he first came off the DL. He deserves another good opportunity to get back to what he was earlier in the year.
CountryClub
Its only 5 games in 6 days. Mo probably wont be available tomorrow.
What in the world is Kim wearing?
Hinske makes neither one of the two plays Swisher made in that inning.
Girardi is doing a decent enough job with the bullpen right now, no need to change it. Rivera, Hughes, Coke, Aceves cover the late innings when it’s a close game.
Robertson, Melancon and Bruney are used in mop-up situations or when the starter gets knocked out early. If they want to get into high leverage situations they have to prove themselves. So far they haven’t proven they are reliable.
If all Bruney needs is work,fake/makeup, an injury and send him down,for rehab.He’s not contributing at all,like he is.
Hughes will be pitching 8 and 9 in situations like this in Sept and Oct. Can’t trust Bruney for the 9th, because then you have to put Mo in to save the day again. This is a waste of a Mo appearance.
Girardi better think this through a little better before he burns Mo out….
“trisha, you should not be talking trash about Posadagate. Seriously.”
Pete brought it up, people responded to it, we had fun with it. I think everyone survived. But thanks for the concern.
“Don’t give up your day job!”
“Uncalled for. Unless you’ve asked Pete to go back and delete some of your comments on this subject, it’s all on the record. Pete controls his own keyboard, not yours.”
What in hell are you talking about? I think you are either on too much red bull or anxious to make trouble. That comment was a joke response to SJ.
Anyway, I’m done with you. This was fun being here with everyone today. You’re not going to ruin my day by coming in when all is said and done and playing forum sheriff. Bye.
cun bruney some slack, he challenge guys with fastball with a 4 run lead, would you pefer walks. july 10 since his last out there. samething with dave and melancon, he xhallenge guys
Thanks Pel
Patrick,
Your 4:03 post says it all.
If folks want to see the young players “develop” buy a ticket to Scranton, Trenton, Charleston, Tampa, etc.
That’s where young players “develop”.
They have a 200+ million dollar payroll and a mandate from the owner to WIN and MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. That takes precedent over everything everybody’s feelings.
Even some veteran players who will be forced to sit in certain situations as the season goes on.
Winning is more important than development at the major league level.
This isn’t KC or Florida.
teddy-great point. it’s a no win situation around here.
obviously bruney needs his work and jorge basically said the same. we’ll need bruney this summer to win more game. plain & simple.
girardi made the right move to pitch Huges in the 8th. it was only a 3 run lead. come the 9th with a 4 run lead, it was time to get bruney some work.
everybody just enjoy the victory!!
Bruney’s outing was good and bad. Encouraging with the strikeouts, disappointing with the 2 HRs. It’s encouraging he didn’t walk anyone.
I hated Tomko and I’m happy he’s gone. he thought who he was and he sucked. At his age, he shouldn’t need more opportunity to show he can pitch, save it for the youngins.
“Melancon has proven he can’t handle or at the very least is not ready to handle major league hitters in ANY situation. The guy has an average fastball and below average command of his pitches. If he can’t pitch the 5th in a blow out, he certainly can’t pitch the 8th in a pressure situation.”
What a bunch of bulls… no offense but had GI Joe not hooked him from the mound in Anaheim Bruney would have his bags packed right now.
gotta love Burnett boasting earlier in the year that once he gets on a roll it will be impressive. Well, count me in as impressed. This guy has been rolling for a while now and this train aint slowin down.
Swish said if his day was ice cream it would be rocky road
Melancon >>>> Bruney
he’s just being short changed every time out of the BP. There is a “MY GUY” thing GI Joe has w/ Bruney it’s the same sick crap that has Ransom on this team.
PJH – he doesn’t deserve a chance to get back to what he was earlier in the year when the came is on the line.
He can have that chance in mop up duty. Unfortunately for him, the Yanks are winning close games (or are in close games) almost everyday. We need a game where we are up by 4+ late in games like today to give him his chances.
But even if he pitches well a few times against crappy teams would you trust him in a big spot? NO.
The Ysnks could desperately use another arm to spell Hughes and Coke. The work loads of those 2 guys are adding up.
The reality of it is, Bruney is not able to pitch in high leverage situations right now. That’s why he doesn’t.
He’s been awful since he came off the DL. Until he is better, Girardi isn’t going to upset his bullpen rotation.
He is managing for his job. He’s not turning it over to unreliable guys in the bullpen.
If Bruney improves, he will see more high leverage situations. If he doesn’t, this will be his role the rest of the year.
They aren’t going to change their bullpen to accomodate the bottom 3 guys in the pen.
maybe bruney recognised it was a blowout and knew mariano was ready, so he tipped the pitches to the O’s so as to pad their stats? or was that in some parallel universe?
Brandon,
Don’t get carried away with prospect love again. Melancon has shown less than Bruney. Bruney at least throws strikes. Melancon has yet to show he can at this level yet.
Neither guy is ready for prime time yet. That’s why they are in the roles they are in.
In fairness we do not know for certain if Melancon is better than Bruney or anyone else. In his limited work, he’s been fair at best. Now, granted, he needs opportunities, but those opportunities can’t come at the expense of wins. Bruney is getting the chance he earned to lose his job. He will be the go-to guy until it is without a doubt shown he can’t get the job done. Today didn’t really answer too many questions. It seemed like he had better control. Maybe.
Melancon will get a chance. There will be a game that the Yankees are losing or that they are winning by a wide margin. He’ll come in and it will then be in his hands. He will need to excel in his limited opportunities. Basically, the guys set the table for themselves.
SJ44,
Exactly right and it’s just that simple. If you pitch well you’ll get more opportunities. If you don’t pitch well you’ll get less appearances.
Throughout this winning streak it’s not like Girardi has been overusing the pen. There are 4 guys out there capable of getting outs in big situations. There has been no need to use Bruney/Melancon/Robertson.
Maybe if the starting pitching slumps or the offense gets hot we’ll see those guys more often. Otherwise I don’t expect to see them that often.
The best players play the most, that’s how it should be and right now that’s how it is.
Melancon’s, Robertson’s or Bruney’s next big time chance will come in an extra inning game and they are the last three standing, and if they do their job, that’s when Girardi and the team will show more faith in them. It won’t come from striking out the side on 9 pitches in a blowout. That’s what happened with both Ramirez and Veras last year. With them, they just simply reverted to form. That’s whay those three need to avoid.
When Marte comes back melancon is going back to continue learning in the minors.
And I hope that Girardi doesn’t think Marte could be used in big spots. Let him get a big lefty in the 6th. Leave him out of the 7-9th. Marte is a bad pitcher. Plain and simple.
Remember, before Hughes and Aceves got here our bullpen was the worst in MLB. Don’t be deceived that we have good pieces outside of Aceves, Coke, Hughes, Mariano. These guys just cannot go every day. We need to trade for someone like George Sherril if the O’s want to send him in the division.
Give them Melancon and assorted B level prospects. Or offer Melky and a prospect to someone for a reliever in the NL.
Bruney needed the work – It’s not like he came in and started nibbling and walking people.
Bruney bashers need to chill.
Earlier in the year Mgmt. projected Melacon to be the replacement for Mo when he retires. They must have seen something positive in him to make that bold statement. He was to go to AAA for most the season and come up late in the season.
He was called up early and didn’t do that well. The team wasn’t doing too well either. If the theory is to put your best bp out there, why did Girardi always go to Veras?? Everyone was crying about that call which seemed to be every game. Notice how many bp pitchers are now gone. Poor Mo, he was the only constant until Hughes came along. Previously they needed name tags for the in and out pitchers.
I agree with the fans who say we can’t wear out Hughes and Mo with so many games left to go – and the playoffs and the WS. There has to be a balance somewhere and it is incumbent upon Girardi and staff to find that fine balance to maintain the bp arms through the rest of the season.
But – wow – is the team playing well. Even Swish came through today! The Yankees have the best infield in the world and at best, an adequate OF.
Thurm78,
But I was comparing PA’s, not seasons.
> realize you are watching someone special play in your lifetime.
Oh, I do, totally. I’m not anti-Jeter (well, except for his fielding); I’m just saying that TW woulda had more hits in his 9791 PA’s except for all those walks.
DJ’s playing in a higher-offense era than TW, although the ’40s and ’50s were no slouch: DJ’s years have yielded 4.97 runs per team/game (AL), while TW’s yielded 4.52. Which, adding the fact that DJ’s team has been far superior to TW’s overall and that DJ bats higher in the batting order than TW did, probably gives him even more PA’s per year.
But that’s not the point. I’m not here to denigrate Jeter at all; I’m just saying that using TW as a benchmark for total career number of base hits is not the best use of TW’s career numbers: Babe Ruth’s either: they both (and I’m sure we can think of other examples) drew a huge number of walks, and walks are, most sabermetricians think, nearly as good as a hit, and I’ll put TW’s walks-plus-hits (4675), or BR’s (4935), up against DJ’s (3506), any day.
Jeter is a fantastic player, a surefire first-ballot HOFer. But let’s compare him to other players who make sense to compare him to, and in categories that make sense. I haven’t looked this one up, and I’m not going to right now, but I’ll bet DJ has more stolen bases than TW and BR put together. So?