Big night for a local hero
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 23, 2009 
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The Athletics will be starting 22-year-old Vin Mazzaro tonight. He was pitching for Rutherford High in New Jersey four years ago and grew up a Yankees fan.
The right-hander from Hackensack was taken in the third round of the 2005 draft after going 7-1 with an 0.27 ERA as a senior. He was in AAA by 2008 and made his major league debut on June 2, pitching 6.1 shutout innings against the White Sox.
Mazzaro is 0-5, 6.48 in his last five starts, however.
“I’m sure I’ll have a few butterflies, with the family there,” Mazzaro told the San Francisco Chronicle. “Pitching in Yankee Stadium is going to be awesome, special.”
Oakland also has OF Rajai Davis, the pride of New London, Conn. He’ll have a bunch of people at the Stadium, too.
>Mazzaro is 0-5, 6.48 in his last five starts, however.
Let’s get this game in.
lets take advantage of those jitters.
Sportsline.com Power Rankings is a joke…Here is what Larry Dobrow wrote about the Yankees….
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11972174
I know he is trying to be funny, and completly opioniated but I think Yankee haters should not be allowed have their own power rankings…I just can not stand him…am i alone?
please crush him. Nice kid, welcome back, now crash & burn.
I’d imagine there would be a DH tomorrow if it gets rained out.
my story on Vin from a few weeks back: http://www.newjerseynewsroom.c.....sh-with-as
“Sportsline.com Power Rankings is a joke…Here is what Larry Dobrow wrote about the Yankees….
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11972174
I know he is trying to be funny, and completly opioniated but I think Yankee haters should not be allowed have their own power rankings…I just can not stand him…am i alone?”
Honestly, those are the only Power Rankings worth reading. Absolutely hilarious.
Erica-
Did the pre-existing relationship with your mpb date back to oakland or kansas city at least? I mean I’m starting to think she likes me having facial hair because of kevin youkilis. I’m dying here haha
Fun with MVP voting
July 23, 2009 2:08 PM
Near the end of an entertaining Q&A over at the Freakonomics blog, Buster Olney lobs a mini-bombshell while discussing award voting:
A vote based purely on a Sabermetric analysis would have its pitfalls as well. There was one year when a star player told a couple of writers that he would never speak to them again if they voted for a certain rival on their ballots, a situation that threatened to undermine that team’s clubhouse; and after confirming that appalling story, there’s no way I would’ve ever voted for that player for M.V.P., a situation that a SABR-like approach would’ve never addressed. In short – yes, I think the writers do the best possible job on the voting because they have the ability to meld all the factors mentioned above. (Now, the question of whether writers should be involved in the voting – and creating news – is another ethical question altogether.)
Ah, a mystery! If Buster wanted to reveal the identity of the “star player” he would have done it already, and I’m not going to put him on the spot.
However, I will report that I was in Seattle in 1996, when Alex Rodriguez would have edged Juan Gonzalez for the MVP if both Seattle voters hadn’t listed Ken Griffey, Jr. first on their ballots. Ever since, there have been rumors that Junior or Alex or both were clear to the writers about their favorite candidates. And I’m told by an unimpeachable source that Rodriguez, 13 years later, still holds a grudge against those two voters.
Delicious, right? Someday, when all the involved parties taken the Murray Chass career path, we’ll know all. In the mean time, feel free to speculate in the comments.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/swe.....oting.html
Joe I – He loves Nomar but he doesn’t really care about him anymore now that he’s been gone for a while. And I think the only reason why I can have good conversations with him is because he still has a healthy fear of the Yankees which most current Sox fans seem to have lost.
Ramey
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Erica-
Did the pre-existing relationship with your mpb date back to oakland or kansas city at least? I mean I’m starting to think she likes me having facial hair because of kevin youkilis. I’m dying here haha
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Nope. It started with Boston in 2003. I liked the facial hair/Caveman look
AHAHAH
WFAN caller thinks the Giants would trade Lincecum…
Caller on WFAN
Youuse
Youuse
Youuse
Phil needs to officially change his last name
I know Pete just had a post up, but what are the odds the game gets in at all?
You realize that if it’s not played it’ll be a rainout of a rainout?
Rebecca- What exactly was Francesa going nuts about earlier? I meant to ask in the other thread.
“Nope. It started with Boston in 2003. I liked the facial hair/Caveman look”
Fair enough. I guess it could be a cute look…
AHAHAH
WFAN caller thinks the Giants would trade Lincecum…
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The internet stream is behind. Just hearing this now. Caller sounds drunk.
Some poster said on another thread that the yankees will lose first round if they face the angels. First of all if the yankees finish first then they won’t face them, and the Angels might not win there division. The first round can be a crapshoot, and personally I think the yankees won’t face the Angels first round.
4-0 White Sox on a Fields Grand Slam
Can we please pound this local hero to a zero. I’m so tired of local kids shutting the yanks out.
Kazmir gives up a Granny to Josh Fields, the White Sox number nine hitter.
He’s approaching 50 pitches in the second inning.
That’s why they want Cliff Lee. Kazmir is a disaster right now.
Sox 4-0.
“I know Pete just had a post up, but what are the odds the game gets in at all?
You realize that if it’s not played it’ll be a rainout of a rainout?”
2 words. Retractable roof.
If we make the playoffs I have no idea what’ll happen, it all depends on who’s the hottest team.
Ramey-
I was actually sad when he shaved it. I watched the footage of his haircut. LOL
I am sorry though, I just don’t think it can work with two people who truly love different teams. Especially when they are natural rivals
Great, that means he’ll have a big game
Ramey. if you actually even remotely resemble Youkelis, I don’t think I can read your posts anymore.
There is absolutely no way we get this game in. None.
At least according to weather.com
Doubleheader tomorrow?
“I am sorry though, I just don’t think it can work with two people who truly love different teams. Especially when they are natural rivals”
Oh, I agree entirely. I’ve always vowed to never date a red sox fan, now i’m dating a red sox rooting liar. i’m actually gonna be a nice guy and still take her to the yankee game on saturday, so she can actually see what good baseball is….then breaking up with her haha
“Ramey. if you actually even remotely resemble Youkelis, I don’t think I can read your posts anymore.”
Don’t you worry, I have no lumberjack in my blood. I’m sticking strictly to the old fashioned goatee. I tried going old school for the giambi mustache, but i looked like luigi from the super mario brothers
Oh, I agree entirely. I’ve always vowed to never date a red sox fan, now i’m dating a red sox rooting liar. i’m actually gonna be a nice guy and still take her to the yankee game on saturday, so she can actually see what good baseball is….then breaking up with her haha
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Ramey-
You seem like a decent guy. I am sorry your girlfriend turned out to be a red sox loving liar
will youse 2 just hook up already
“There is absolutely no way we get this game in. None.
At least according to weather.com
Doubleheader tomorrow?”
Damn. I have to be in work and then I miss the night game because I have a party to attend.
This rainout will really suck. It will throw the rotaion off kilter for the series vs TB and Bos. But more importantly, assuming a DH this weekend, they’ll need to find someone to pitch a game next week (unless they want CC to go on 3 days rest, which I doubt).
Erica-
Thank you, I guess it could be worse, she could’ve been related to Theo Epstein or something. Now that would’ve made my head explode
“The first round can be a crapshoot, and personally I think the yankees won’t face the Angels first round.”
Based on what? your guess?
That’s reassuring….. Trumpetman “thinks” we won’t face the Angels in the first round.
You’re also the same guy that wants to give up Montero, AJax, Hughes and Joba for Halladay.
Manhattan bartenders want to know…..
Did Giambi make the trip despite being on the DL?
If it is rained out then the Yankees will need another starter against Tampa, unless someone (CC?) is going to go on short rest.
Weather forecast makes it seem like it’s either A) double-header this weekend or B) start the game at 10 PM once the worst weather passes by. I am guessing we are going to have choice A play out.
Do these people who mock Yankees Universe realize that the proceeds go to help kids w/cancer?
Why don’t they mock HOPE Week while they’re at it.
by 7 PM 80% chance of showers…
tampa scares me more then the sux….
baseball is so unpredictable, kazmir stinks this year….why.. all the extra innings of the playoffs?
the yanks need 1 more starter just in case, like washburn type….another athletic OF would not hurt but that is not happening..
40% chance of rain tonight, what do you mean no chance? its 3oclock
It would not shock me if they waited till 10 to start this one. Would still beat the logistical nightmare of a double header
“There is absolutely no way we get this game in. None.
At least according to weather.com
Doubleheader tomorrow?”
Didn’t know weather.com was 100% accurate.
Also didn’t know the weather forecast stays constant 4 hours before the game even starts.
This is groundbreaking news.
Everyone is always so quick to think the game will be rained out, its so funny. Same nonsense yesterday.
Newsflash…. there has probably been rain in the forecast for about half the Yankees home games so far this year. 2 have been rained out.
I bet they get the game in. And I don’t think I’m going out on a limb by saying this.
Yeah, a rain out would suck… that means we need to call up a pitcher for the Tampa series.
Hunter Jones
Nothing is funnier on here than folks making definitive weather predictions.
How ’bout this? How ’bout we wait it out and see what happens since none of us have any idea what the weather will be like at 7 pm.
Tuesday night’s game was supposed to be rained out and it wasn’t.
They’ll get the game in.
50% of the time, the forecast is right every time
Yea, with any luck (for the Yankees) the rain would stay here in central Jersey for the rest of the day while sparing the city
The storm front is as big as NY state and headed right toward the Bronx, it will be at least midnight before it passes, I fear no baseball tonight.
So the reason to make insulting remarks about me becuase I made a hyperbolic comment about the weather are…?
While we are waiting for the game thread, I have “Guess the Line up” predictions from the following:
Westchester Dave
Andrew
86w183
miggs
Nick
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
Madden 10
Hokiehill
Ramey
Eights
I may need to start putting them in Excel so I can fool people into thinking I am working better
If we have the best record in the AL (likely) and the Angels win their division (also likely), we wouldn’t face them in the first round.
Erica-
Jeter
Damon
Tex
A-Rod
Matsui
Swisher
Melky
Gardner
Molina (I predict he’s in due to muddy field)
Rumor that the Yanks are scouting Justin Duchscherer (from ESPN insider)….
Had a great 2008 year, and could had some depth to our rotation. I wonder what he would cost the Yanks tho, but if this were true, and we do not have to give the farm for him, could be a good move…..
So funny….
2nd story on front page of ESPN.. “Sources: Farve conflicted over choice”
Does anyone care anymore?
I think I stopped caring back in 2006.
The Rumblings Scouting Bureau:
• On Joba Chamberlain: “They’re waiting for him to become the next Josh Beckett, and it ain’t gonna happen. He just doesn’t have the power stuff Beckett has. He doesn’t have the delivery. He’s not the athlete Beckett is. And he doesn’t have the breaking stuff. If they ever get smart, they’ll put him back in the bullpen and let [Alfredo] Aceves be the [No.] 3-4 starter he ought to be.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....ings090723
People seem to forget the Yankees won 2 of 3 against the Angels at the Stadium.
Folks act like they can’t win any games against them.
Not the least of which its been shown time and time again, what a teams do against one another in the regular season means nothing.
Worry about the A’s because neither the Yankees or Angels have made the playoffs yet.
Is it just me or does Fatcessa know the Red Sox prospects better than the Yankee prospects? Is he a Yankee fan? He surely defends the Sox A LOT.
Favre is fun to watch when he’s not inured.
WTTCTOHA-
You need to also give the positions
Jeter-SS
Damon-LF
Teixara-1B
AROD-3B
Matsui-DH
Posoda-C
Cano-2B
Hinske-RF
Melky-CF
S.A.-They didn’t say that when he was in the minors and last year, they’re only saying that because he’s starting to struggle a bit and they’re drinking the kool aid.
Justin Duchscherer is awesome. If we get him I’ll be ecstatic. Good in both the rotation and bullpen. Perfect guy for us.
“If we have the best record in the AL (likely) and the Angels win their division (also likely), we wouldn’t face them in the first round.”
I guess that depends on your definition of “likely”.
The Yankees are only ahead by 2 games in the east and the Angels are only ahead by 3.5 in the west.
Its mid-July.
Sorry, but neither of these things appears “likely” to me. The odds that both of them happen are even less “likely”.
“Possibly” maybe a better word, especially with 70 games left to play.
Erica-(Disregard earlier list, I had four outfielders and no second baseman)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1b
A-Rod 3b
Matsui DH
Cano 2b
Swisher RF
Gardner CF
Molina C
“Damn. I have to be in work and then I miss the night game because I have a party to attend.”
I didn’t know they had play rooms in Burger King
Mark Buehrle Perfect thru 5
Mark Buehrle Perfect thru 5
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN July 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
S.A.-They didn’t say that when he was in the minors and last year, they’re only saying that because he’s starting to struggle a bit and they’re drinking the kool aid.
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I don’t disagree.
It’s just funny to read stuff like that
I still think the Sox win the division.
But we’re playing great baseball right now, so I’m not complaining and would not be surprised at all if we won.
Robbykid
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Mark Buehrle Perfect thru 5
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Don’t tell Michael Kay.
It would be really sad if the game gets rained out. The kids who can’t go outside due to their medical condition were supposed to get a treat tonight. what a bummer.
Al from BK-You’re disappointed that you “have” to go to a party?
what oh what does the pirates owner(s) do with the revenue sharing dough they receive?
Duchscherer is injured all sorts of ways, I do not think he is an answer for the Yankees in 2009, and I think Beane is counting on using him to help protect his young starters’ innings limits by having a 6-man rotation with Duchscherer in it.
hahahaha
Mark Buehrle is perfect through five innings against Tampa.
Just once I would love to see names associated with “unnamed scouts” when they rip the Yankees.
Think about it. The Yankees have more homegrown guys helping their team over the last 15 years than any successful franchise in the game.
This year alone, aside from the “Old Guard” (Jeter, Mo, Pettitte and Posada), you have had significant contributions from Cano, Hughes, Chamberlain, Gardner, Cabrera, Cervelli, Pena and Aceves.
They have gotten more contributions from their homegrown guys this year than the Red Sox and their vaunted farm system.
We haven’t even gotten to guys like Jackson, Montero, etc. More high level talents knocking on the door.
Meanwhile, all these unnamed dolts spend millions of their owners dollars on “prospects” that never make it.
I can tell you from personal experience, many of the scouts that like to talk to the media aren’t great at their ability to identify and develop talent.
Joba Chamberlain may or may not become a great starting pitcher. On that, the jury is out.
However, he no longer has to be the “Next Josh Beckett” since CC Sabathia, a better pitcher than Josh Beckett, is heading up the rotation.
What Joba has to do is maximize his talent. If its as a frontline starting pitcher or the future closer, I’d say they are in good shape either way with the kid.
WTTCTOHA-
That looks much better.
Robbykid-
Got yours too
Buehrle isn’t pitching
duh.. never mind.. he is
“• On Joba Chamberlain: “They’re waiting for him to become the next Josh Beckett, and it ain’t gonna happen. He just doesn’t have the power stuff Beckett has. He doesn’t have the delivery. He’s not the athlete Beckett is. And he doesn’t have the breaking stuff. If they ever get smart, they’ll put him back in the bullpen and let [Alfredo] Aceves be the [No.] 3-4 starter he ought to be.””
OH SHUT THE F… UP !!
“I still think the Sox win the division.”
raymagnetic-Just being consistent. Thta means nothing to me when it comes to the playoffs.
SJ — How big an impact do you think Victor Martinez has on the AL East? If he comes to the Rays or to the Sox do you think it puts either team ‘over the top’?
Thta=That
SJ44 I agree with everything you said except for saying CC is a better starter than Beckett. I hate ANYTHING Bawston but I have to disagree with this statement.
Look no further than these guys postseason #s.. I don’t care if CC pitches 6 straight shutouts over the next 2 months, I will still be on pins and needles come that GM 1 Start.
I don’t think I’d feel that way if Beckett was starting GM 1.
Brandon-
The correct term is “Shut the Buccholz up”
The Sox are finishing behind us and Tampa Bay, hopefully in that order.
Can’t win the division if you finish 3rd.
“Al from BK-You’re disappointed that you “have” to go to a party?”
Yeah when I have to miss Joba’s start it’s disappointing.
““• On Joba Chamberlain: “They’re waiting for him to become the next Josh Beckett, and it ain’t gonna happen. He just doesn’t have the power stuff Beckett has. He doesn’t have the delivery. He’s not the athlete Beckett is. And he doesn’t have the breaking stuff. If they ever get smart, they’ll put him back in the bullpen and let [Alfredo] Aceves be the [No.] 3-4 starter he ought to be.”””
Wow what yankee-hating drivel. Joba has a better slider and just as good a fastball as Beckett.
I think I would be more worried if the Red Sox got Roy H instead of VMart…Pitching and defense wins championships…..
So Beckett’s postseason numbers automatically make his regualr season numbers irrelevant?
I disagree.
CC will perform in the playoffs, he’s too good not to.
I would not be surprised if the Yanks took the division by 8 games. for me the Yanks glass is half full and the Sox Glass is half empty.
Unless Duncan starts to play for them then all bets are off!
Madden 10 — Beckett isn’t as good an overall pitcher as CC. Yes, you have the small sample size of post season to point to but how about last year? Because Beckett decided to lay an egg four times they lost in game 7. The Sox got as far as they did despite him last year.
On radar that storm has the shape and spin of a hurricane. I hope it misses just to the east…otherwise it’s a doubleheader sometime this weekend.
bodhi-Hopefully.
AFBK-Well then what could I say? You’re a true fan. Peace.
UE,
We will leave a healthy margin between ourselves and Boston when all is said and done.
I’m more concerned about Tampa Bay.
Love hearing your thoughts, SJ – sometimes “unnamed” sources are better off “unheard” too
Robbykid
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Rumor that the Yanks are scouting Justin Duchscherer (from ESPN insider)….
Had a great 2008 year, and could had some depth to our rotation. I wonder what he would cost the Yanks tho, but if this were true, and we do not have to give the farm for him, could be a good move…..
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Duchscherer hasn’t pitched at any level since the middle of last Aigust. Exactly what sort of help would he be? It would take at least 1 month before he could pitch in limited innings. Isn’t that the same issues that the Yanks have now? Not to mention giving up talent for a damaged pitcher based on what he did last year in a pitcher’s park.
Look at the regular season numbers between CC and Beckett.
The post-season is a small sample size and you don’t make a determination as to who is better off a small sample size.
Look at their regular season numbers and CC is the better pitcher.
I don’t think Cleveland is going to trade Victor Martinez.
If they do, you have to look at what the team that gets him gives up because the Indians aren’t going to give him away.
Sometimes, you give up more than you get in return when you only get one guy back in the deal.
bodh-The point is, you think we’re in the playoffs?
At the start of the year I picked Rays in, Boston out but I’ve changed my mind.
It sure doesn’t hurt a starting pitcher to know he has Manny is the cleanup spot.
Tisk, tisk…
Rishi,
Need another ESPN favor.
There is a blog called “MLB Draft” that is in the MLB section of ESPN.com that has an entry titled “Draft early returns”.
When you get a chance, could you see if my nephew is mentioned? Thanks.
SJ — Shapiro is definitely no patsy, this is the guy who got orchestrated the great Colon heist. Martinez is also not on the good side of his 30th birthday.
perfect through 6. but he’s thrown 84 pitches already
i don’t see him having enough juice to finish
will do, SJ
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
bodh-The point is, you think we’re in the playoffs?
At the start of the year I picked Rays in, Boston out but I’ve changed my mind.
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I think we take the division. TB has impressive starters and their athletic lineup this year has also become more patient. I remember a game last year at the real Yankee Stadium, where the Rays got themselves out all game long vs. Pettitte. They’re not such free swingers now.
But their BP is not good.
If we stay healthy, I like our chances. Doesn’t mean I’m not wary of the Rays, though.
To me, we are decisively better than Boston this time around, and I expect the final standings will reflect that.
Buehrle perfect through 6 innings.
Duchscherer hasn’t pitched at any level since the middle of last Aigust. Exactly what sort of help would he be? It would take at least 1 month before he could pitch in limited innings. Isn’t that the same issues that the Yanks have now? Not to mention giving up talent for a damaged pitcher based on what he did last year in a pitcher’s park.
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I agree with you that it would be a gamble, but if HE is healthy, and the Yanks scouts feel he could help the team, and we do not have to give up too much, he could provide depth in August, and be a good lefty alternative then Coke out of the bullpen in the playoffs (if we get there)…God knows you cant trust Marte…
Here you go – sounds great!!
The highlights include the highest overall selection to sign, Pittsburgh Pirates catcher Tony Sanchez (No. 4), who has hit .328/.427/.469 in 17 games split between two stops. The bulk of his time has come with Class-A West Virginia, where he hit his first pro home run July 10. He’s also walked six times versus nine strikeouts with the club; contact rates will be something the Pirates monitor closely with their first-round pick.
http://insider.espn.go.com/esp.....=mlb_draft
Perfect thru 6
SJ:
Saw your post, know you addressed it to Rishi, but I’m bored, so…
“The highlights include the highest overall selection to sign, Pittsburgh Pirates catcher Tony Sanchez (No. 4), who has hit .328/.427/.469 in 17 games split between two stops. The bulk of his time has come with Class-A West Virginia, where he hit his first pro home run July 10. He’s also walked six times versus nine strikeouts with the club; contact rates will be something the Pirates monitor closely with their first-round pick.”
http://insider.espn.go.com/esp.....=mlb_draft
Re Duchsherer, there was an article on RAB yesterday. He hasn’t pitched since last year, is on DL with bad elbow, has arthritic hip and IBS aggravated by pitching in tight spots (I’m not kidding). Imagine if he had to pitch in front of 50,000 during World Series. He’d need a diaper. No thanks.
Buehrle is at 74 pitches. It’s Kazmir that’s at 85 in the 6th.
TB’s bullpen is in my opinion their Achilles heel.
game thread up
I don’t believe I’d actually doing this..
But the #s don’t lie.
Beckett’s Postseason #s
7-2 ERA:2.90 IP:87 H:62 R10 ER:28 BB:22 3 CG SOs
Now take into account this includes last post season where Beckett went 1-0 but with 14.1 IP, 22H (!!) 14 ER
Half his Career PostSeason ERs came last year in 2 games..
CC for his postseason career is
2-3 ERA:7.92 IP:25 H:32 R:2 ER:22 BB:22
“he could provide depth in August, and be a good lefty alternative then Coke out of the bullpen in the playoffs (if we get there)…God knows you cant trust Marte”
Robbykid-
Are you talking about duchscherer? Because he’d have to learn how to throw lefty to do that
“Re Duchsherer, there was an article on RAB yesterday. He hasn’t pitched since last year, is on DL with bad elbow, has arthritic hip and IBS aggravated by pitching in tight spots (I’m not kidding). Imagine if he had to pitch in front of 50,000 during World Series. He’d need a diaper. No thanks.”
Yeah, I don’t what question marks that cost much in the way of prospects. If we could get a guy like this for the kind of players we gave up for Hinske then maybe, but I wouldn’t give up anyone with potential.
what = want
Thanks Rishi and Rebecca. Two of those K’s came last night.
His K rate was solid until the last 2 games.
I like Duchsherer more for next year. If they can make a deal for him, I’d just rehab him and get him ready for 2010.
This way, you get him 100% healthy and you have great options (starter or bullpen) in terms of what to do with him.
Madden-IP 87 vs. IP 25.
I’m sorry but I’d take Josh over CC as our GM 1 starter in a second.. Playoffs are what matter around here. I don’t care if CC has a 16-18 win season.
Are we going to sit here in November and say GREAT JOB CC on your 18 Regular Season Wins if he bombs in the playoffs again??
Small post-season samples is not how you evaluate who is the better pitcher.
You have to look at their entire slate and weigh the regular season more heavily because you pitch more in the regular season than the post-season.
When you factor in regular season results, CC is the better pitcher.
The Rays’ bullpen seems either hit or miss. They have a great ERA but it seems like they give up runs at the wrong times, which results in quite a few blown saves.
Their offense was on fire the first few months of the season, but seems to have cooled off a bit. Longoria has been mediocre since his DL stint, Pena is a strikeout machine, and Upton has a terrible OBP for a leadoff hitter.
You have to get to the playoffs to pitch in the playoffs.
Don’t act like Francesa. Its not impressive.
@ Pel: 74 pitches through 6.
He could make it.
Madden — Nobody is arguing that in the small sample size that you want to look at Beckett is better. But what about their careers? OH and one is injury prone.
9 Seasons *1794.2 121 ERA+ 3.66 ERA 1492 K*
9 Seasons 1317.2 118 ERA+ 3.74 ERA 1248 K
I get it.. CC has less experience. But that doesn’t matter so much IMO. I’m judging by body of work so far.
CC has 22 BBs in the Playoffs in 25 IP
Josh has 22 BBs in the Playoffs in 87 IP
That pretty much tells you all you need to know.
5 starts IMO is enough playoff experience to judge. The fact that this guy has not reached the 7th inning in any of those 5 starts is NOT GOOD!
Also Boston lit him up 2 years ago in the ALCS.
Buerhle perfect thru 7 – hmmmmm
Re: CC in the playoffs – you could argue he was fried after pitching so many games on 3 days rest down the stretch.
But it’s the performance vs. Boston that would bother me.
It doesn’t tell you anything. You continue to refuse to look at regular season results. So, you evaluation is meaningless since nobody evaluates any player just based on post-season results.
We get it. You aren’t smart enough to do a proper evaluation and believe only the post-season counts.
So, wait until October to watch the team since these regular season games apparently mean nothing.
SJ44- Who said anything about refusing to look at Reg Season results? Reg Season and Postseason are 2 different beasts. You want to say CC is a better Regular Season Pitcher? No argument from me there. He is a workhorse.
But I’ll take the postseason pitcher who shows up as opposed to the one who walks the whole ballpark.
I’ll be sure to keep your name in mind come October.. Because if CC pitches another stinker in the Postseason, I wonder what the excuse will be then.
Another thing.. Don’t sit there and your high horse and insult me. I don’t care who you are or how much “respect” you think you deserve on this blog. Wow… You post 20 times everyday. Great! Doesn’t make you more knowledgeable than me.
I went to school with Mazzaro. Cocky kid, scouting reports always said the only thing holding him back is his attitude. Hopefully we crush him tonight.