Game 95: Athletics at Yankees (updated with Cashman audio)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Jul 23, 2009 
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YANKEES (57-37)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Hinske RF
Gardner CF
Pitching: LHP CC Sabathia (9-6, 3.66).
ATHLETICS (40-53)
Davis RF
Cabrera SS
Hairston CF
Holliday LF
Garciaparra 1B
Suzuki C
Cust DH
Crosby 3B
Ellis 2B
Pitching: RHP Vin Mazzaro (2-6, 4.09).
TIME/TV: 7:05, YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees have won six straight and 19 of their last 24. They have a two-game lead on Boston in the American League East. The Red Sox are idle today. Tonight’s game is a makeup of the postponed game in April.
BENEFICIAL BREAK: The Yankees are 6-0 since the All-Star break thanks to a 2.17 ERA. Their pitchers have allowed only 13 earned runs and 44 hits over 54 innings.
WINNING THE CLOSE ONES: The Yankees have outscored the opposition only 23-14 in their six-game win streak. They have played three one-run games and three two-run games.
MIGHTY MO: Mariano Rivera has converted 97 of 101 save chances since April 21, 2007. He has not allowed a run in his last 15 appearances, a span of 14.2 innings. He has given up only four hits while striking out 15 in that stretch. His ERA has dropped from 3.38 to 2.18.
PHIL ‘ER UP: Phil Hughes has an 0.81 ERA in 16 relief appearances. He has not allowed any runs in his last 14 appearances. Hughes has struck out 22 in his last 17.2 innings.
GETTING STRAIGHT A’S: The Yankees are 7-1 against Oakland over the last two seasons, outscoring the Athletics 38-25.
BAD, BAD BRUNEY: Brian Bruney’s last eight appearances: 7 innings, 11 hits, 8 earned runs 8 walks, 6 strikeouts, 3 home runs. Right-handers are hitting .345 against him this season.
SWISHERROR Nick Swisher has committed six errors in right field. Only Justin Upton of Arizona (7) has more at that position.
MELKY’S MISSING: Melky Cabrera is 2 for 20 since the break and 29 of 130 (.223) since June 1 with a .299 OBP and 15 RBI.
HEATING BACK UP: Alex Rodriguez is 6 of 18 with 5 RBI, 4 runs scored, 2 home runs and 2 stolen bases in the last five games. The Yankees are 44-22 since Rodriguez was activated off the disabled list.
Back with more later.
UPDATE, 4:20 p.m.: Girardi just said Mariano Rivera is not likely available tonight.
Chien-Ming Wang sought a second opinion on his shoulder. They’re waiting on the results.
Girardi also said that Joba’s innings limits are a concern in terms of rotation depth. He still has concerns there. Not “go get Halladay” concerns, but concerns.
UPDATE, 5:38 p.m.: Here is Brian Cashman’s pre-game session with reporters. He talked mostly about pitching:
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UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: Here’s the latest on the weather. It’s pouring and the tarp is on the field. That’s all I can really tell you. No word yet when or if they’ll call it.
UPDATE, 6:06 p.m.: No improvement for Wang since the other day. He said he is “worried.” Yankees are expected to issue an update before the evening is out.
UPDATE, 6:36 p.m.: Still raining. The game will not be starting on time. The skies look a little brighter, I can report that much. But were a long way away from baseball tonight, if we have a game at all.
UPDATE, 7:13 p.m.: Obviously we’re in a rain delay. This could be a long one, too, as the Yankees do not want to play a doubleheader. They don’t have a day off coming any time soon, so a DH would require finding a starter. So unless you want Kei Igawa taking the hill …
UPDATE, 7:17 p.m.: Trenton had five pitchers combine on a one-hitter. They were Jason Stephens, Kanekoa Texeira, Wilkins Arias, Grant Duff and Jose Valdez. Trenton beat New Hampshire 4-0.
UPDATE, 7:31 p.m.: Yankees just announced they hope to play but do not know when.
UPDATE, 8:21 p.m.: The rain is letting up. Tarp is still down. They’re going to wait this out, seems like.
UPDATE, 8:55 p.m.: They just announced that would make a decision at 9 p.m. Not sure what difference a few minutes makes either way.
UPDATE, 9:07 p.m.: Tarp is being pulled up. There will be baseball, looks like. Long night, folks.
9:40 first pitch. Get some Red Bull.
UPDATE, 9:48 p.m: First pitch. CC warmed up to Magnificent by Rick Ross and John Legend.
UPDATE, 10:05 p.m.: There goes the perfect game for Sabathia as Garciaparra singles up the middle. … Based on the cheering, fair amount of Vin Mazzaro fans in the house.
UPDATE, 10:16: Inauspicious start for CC. 2-0 Oakland in the second. Meanwhile, two good points via Twitter:
From Mark Feinsand (@BloggingBombers): The rain delay (2:43) lasted longer than Mark Buehrle’s perfect game (2:03).
From Tyler Kepner (@TylerKepner): Mazzro is from New Jersey pitching for Oakland and Sabathia is from Oakland pitching for New York.
UPDATE, 10:31 p.m.: Cano breaks up the perfect game with a single to left and Holliday throws him out at second by 10 feet
Somebody needs to explain to Cano that he’s not fast. Meanwhile, Vinny from Jersey has fanned five of the first eight batters he has faced.
UPDATE, 10:46 p.m.: Damaso Marte update: 1 inning, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 0 strikeouts. 9 pitches, 8 strikes.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Mark Teixeira is wearing out that second deck. 3-0 fastball down the pipe and he crushed it. 3-2 Oakland.
UPDATE, 10:57 p.m.: Yankees are hiding the Wang news. What a stunner. They’re going to “confer” when Dr. James Andrews then “discuss his status” with the media.
Meanwhile, it’s 3-3 as Posada doubles in A-Rod. The good times seem done for Vinny from Jersey.
UPDATE, 11:05 p.m.: It’s astonishing how bad Cano is with RISP.
UPDATE, 11:07 p.m.: Hey, Hinske got a hit and it wasn’t a home run. But it was an RBI single and the Yankees lead 4-3.
UPDATE, 11:29 p.m.: It was fun while it lasted for Vinny from Jersey. Now he’s down 5-3 with two in scoring position and nobody out for A-Rod. This could get out of hand in a hurry.
UPDATE, 11:38 p.m.: Good at-bat for Cano there with the bases loaded as he fouled out to the catcher. Odds were that he would ground into a double play.
Yanks got two there, should have been more. 6-3, still very much a game.
SJ – in case you missed it in the previous thread…
Sounds great!
http://insider.espn.go.com/esp.....=mlb_draft
The highlights include the highest overall selection to sign, Pittsburgh Pirates catcher Tony Sanchez (No. 4), who has hit .328/.427/.469 in 17 games split between two stops. The bulk of his time has come with Class-A West Virginia, where he hit his first pro home run July 10. He’s also walked six times versus nine strikeouts with the club; contact rates will be something the Pirates monitor closely with their first-round pick.
Stolen shamelessly from RAB:
Nick Swisher, making the easy plays hard and the hard plays easy since 2009
Last Call for “Guess the Line Up”!!!!
I have:
Westchester Dave
Andrew
86w183
miggs
Nick
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
Madden 10
Hokiehill
Ramey
Eights
WTTCTOHA
Robbykid
why is it that every time I go to a game it rains?
What the hell are they doing talking to Buerle!!
Everybody knows you can’t talk to your pitcher!!
I’m going tobuy myself a Swishersalute T-shirt.
Is Michael Kay talking about this Buerle performance?
If he is it ends this inning.
KAYMOUTH = Jinx
tobuy=to buy Swishersalute=Swisher salute
According to the yankeeswfan twitter, my streak has ended. my girlfriend is now being dumped
The Radar Gun Mafia-IDK, he through 2 perfect games already and didn’t jinx them.
Swisher may have 6 errors, but 1 is at 1st base.
Off by one…
From now on I will no longer write the words “perfec…Gam… or n…hitte…until this guy either loses it or gets it.
SS Jeter
LF Damon
1B Tex
3B ARod
DH Matsui
RF Hinske
2B Cano
CF Cabrera
C Molina
You mean Buerle threw 2 no hitters not perfect games.
Right?
Buehrle is perfect through 7 innings. 83 pitches
perfect through 7
21 up! 21 down!
7!
There isn’t a chance in hell this game is getting played tonight. Its going to pour!
Rockies just got Rafael Betancourt
Congratulations to 86w183 and Miggs who correctly predicted tonight’s line up at 2:07 and 2:08, respectively. Good job!
Thank you all for participating. Tune in tomorrow again at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”
Where do I go to pick up my prize? In the event of a tie the first one in wins, right? Have fun gang!
Terrible lineup
Where is Swisher? The guy played GREAT in the field yesterday and had 2 RBIs. Why take his hot bat out of the lineup?
Why is Gardner in there? He has yet to get a hit in July, and has been caught stealing 3 times in 4 attempts this month. Melky, meanwhile is red hot and is our best clutch hitter.
Tampa’s offense is lethal.
Any no-hitter or perfect game is obviously impressive, ut to do so against the Rays lineup is REALLY earning it.
Got to root for Buehrle, he’s one of the most underrated pitchers in the game.
Rafael Betancourt to the Rockies.
Unlike the song, Cleveland does not rock.
I was there last weekend. Saw fans with bags on their heads.
Remember they were favored to take the central?
Wow I was way off.
I have Gameday on for the Rays game.
I’m starting to get into this one.
Torrential downpours here at the Jersey shore right now. Looking at the radar though it looks like there is a chance the majority of the storm could be clear of the city around 7 or 8. I bet they delay the game as long as possible to avoid having to play a double header.
melky is red hot?
Melky Cabrera is 2 for 20 since the break and 29 of 130 (.223) since June 1 with a .299 OBP and 15 RBI.
swish was an adventure in the field yesterday.
The purpose of the MLB channel is what?
Buerhle is throwing a perfect game and they’re replaying highlights from the 70s.
Did anyone have Jake in the pool?
rconn23-That’s why best pitching performance of all time is IMO Don Larsen in the WS.
No complaints about the line up, just hope they play.
Buerhle may be the most underrated pitcher in all of baseball.
The White Sox should just try to make outs as fast as possible.
Jake July 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Why is Gardner in there? He has yet to get a hit in July, and has been caught stealing 3 times in 4 attempts this month. Melky, meanwhile is red hot and is our best clutch hitter.
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Gardner got a hit yesterday.
Sour Melky has gone a few games without a hit. Batting sub-250 in his last 130 at-bats or so. You should try watching games before you post.
Burhlee threw a no hitter against Texas 2 years ago
Okay, I haven’t read the article, but mlb.com has a link that says Halladay’s not interested in an extension with the Blue Jays.
They’re (tor & doc) are setting him up to be the villain here, so that when the Jays deal him to the Yankees they won’t care because Boo! on doc.
I know, it’s a stretch. But everytime I read the tea leaves, I see the same thing.
Jake always complains about the lineup and is always wrong.
Its a LoHud tradition.
A guy who misses an easy flyball and gets one hit isn’t “red hot”.
Its a good lineup, just as its been for most of the year since they are in first place after all.
I want to see history so I hope he gets it. Plus it means the Rays of course lose.
Cashman, just take on Rios contract and Halladay is ours.
Don’t need to surrender Hughes, Joba, or Montero. Just take back Rios.
Hal wants Halladay badly, and that is the best way to get him. A little more salary than you want to take on, but Rios is a good player and you keep the farm intact.
i like the line-up. i think Hinske needs to also get at-bats. he can help us win some games.
i’m wondering when Giradi will sit A-Rod down to “rest” this weekend. Has to be during 1 of these 4 games.
Mariano threw just 6 pitches yesterday and could be used tonight if the situation called for it.
Should the Chisox hold on to beat the Rays today, it can be a good night for the Yanks. A win and we get some more breathing room.
I’m carrying a Nick Swisher-like 0-fer on these lineup guesses. I am hoping that I will go on a hot streak and everyone will start talking up one or two of my stats and using defensive metrics to justify my mediocre play at guessing lineups.
Andrew-Didn’t Nick Swisher get 2 hits yesterday?
Red Sox sideline reporter Heidi Watney says Erin Andrews tape seems staged.
meow!
“I did find that odd as well, because from what I’ve heard, some of the behaviors appear to be staged, just not normal behaviors,” said Watney in a Thursday radio interview.
http://snipurl.com/ntcdw
m
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I like the way you read! LOL!
Pete.
Gardner is 2 for his last 12 hitting .167/.286 and slugging .167. He has 1 SB and has been caught once.
So playing Melky wouldn’t be such a bad idea.
It was supposed to be a joke. Either way, you don’t have to look too far back to find one, re: an 0-fer.
Andrew-
If it makes you feel better, I thought you had a good shot today.
I really may turn this into an Excel spreadsheet tomorrow. Its getting harder to make it look like I am working. I have a highly scientific method of writing all of your guesses on bright green post-its that are in a pile on my desk
‘our guys…their guys’
‘chopper, one hopper, takes it, makes it’
the hawk!
Andrew-Joke. All right.
At Swisher’s expense?
I can’t wait until we trade Melky to some sucker for a sometimes-decent 5th starter.
MLB Channel has the game on
MLB just put on the Buerle game.
5 outs!
he gone!
Yeah Wait, what can I say, I went there. I will just say, it’s not out of a strong dislike for Nick or anything, just felt like making some fun of him and his ardent defenders.
So I’m waiting until Saturday to make another lineup prediction. The red sox lying girlfriend caused the streak to end and I can’t start a new streak until she’s gone!
“I can’t wait until we trade Melky to some sucker for a sometimes-decent 5th starter.”
You are a moron. Gardner has shown he can’t handle CF full time. He is hitting an atrocious .240 against left handers and he can’t make contact half the time. As you can see, our next three opponents are left handers.
So of course, if you feel as if we need to lose production, by all means trade Melky. While your boyfriend is hitting .176 in the last 14 days.
Andrew.-Fair enough.
@ Mysterio – Curious what you’re giving up if not Joba, Hughes, or Montero – I know you don’t have to give up as much if you take on Rios
2 for 12 does not compete against a guy batting .220 since June 1st. Melky needs to sit a bit. Let Gardner play a few games in a row and see if he can get on another run.
Uh oh…
Not complaints on the lineup. Just off by an inchske. The lineups have worked well this season and Hinske’s been strong in the limited time he’s had. Pete, remind Sterling that he owes the Lohud blog a Hinske HR call!
4!
not sure if i should root for the buerle or not…
i think i kind of am, but i’m not sure…
WHOA!
Hokiehill-
We both know why each of us got the lineup wrong today! We know where the blame properly lies
Ramey-
How long were you together before she finally made this admission?
PERFECT THROUGH 8!
8!!!!!!
Buehrle is perfect through 8 innings. 99 pitches. 5 strikeouts. Burrell missed a double by about 6 inches.
Buehrle is reaching the 100 pitch mark. Anyone think they’ll swap him out for a relief pitcher in the 9th?
3 outs! 3 outs!
I feel like a 12 year old watching this game. Very exciting.
“2 for 12 does not compete against a guy batting .220 since June 1st. Melky needs to sit a bit. Let Gardner play a few games in a row and see if he can get on another run.”
Melky Month by Month
April: .327/.400
May: .321/.348
June: .225/.312
July: .220/.278 (40 AB)
He is 24 years old, young players slump. I know it’s hard to comprehend Melky is a young player since he has been in the majors since he was 21, but he is still really young, younger than Gardner. If he isn’t going to play everyday and given a chance to go through his slumps, figure out a way to send him to AAA to get regular at bats.
Buerhle doing a great job of keeping the Rays hitters off-balance. Too bad I have to get back to work.
Will have to listen on the XM.
Ramey, I’m gonna punch your girlfriend in the ovary, that’s what I’m gonna do. A straight shot. Right to the babymaker.
I think it’s time to take Buerle out. He’s giving up tons of line drives…
Erica-
We’ve been together since January, on my birthday in fact. She made the terrible admission this morning before she left for work…Great way to start my day
lol, Russell.
saucY,
I’m with you. I don’t care for Buerle much myself, but it’s better than Beckett, Lester, or Buccholz getting one. And it is against the Rays.
Also, I hate it when no-no’s are broken up really late, so I hope he can get 3 more outs.
Yeah, I wouldn’t take the risk either… bring in Jenks for the 9th.
Hokiehill, I thank you and Ron Burgundy. It really is necessary. Goes to show what judge of character I am!
“Buehrle is reaching the 100 pitch mark. Anyone think they’ll swap him out for a relief pitcher in the 9th?”
At home? Only if Guillen is trying to get fired.
Stop crying about Cabrera.
This is the perfect time to play Gardner and see what happens.
They have had success all year playing the hot hand and its not changing now.
Gardner is hitting 262 against leftys with a 354 obp. His OBP is 1 higher against left handed pitchers then right handed pitches.
Give It A Rest Pete July 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
You are a moron. Gardner has shown he can’t handle CF full time. He is hitting an atrocious .240 against left handers and he can’t make contact half the time. As you can see, our next three opponents are left handers.
So of course, if you feel as if we need to lose production, by all means trade Melky. While your boyfriend is hitting .176 in the last 14 days.
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Sour Melky is batting .259 against lefties… as a switch hitter, with twice as many at-bats.
Not to mention Melky is 0- for his last -10. That’s a .000 batting average.
diaf
Ramey
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Hokiehill, I thank you and Ron Burgundy. It really is necessary. Goes to show what judge of character I am!
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In retrospect there were no clues?
Buerhle is a horse.
Besides, you don’t take out a guy throwing a perfect game out after 100 pitches unless he’s injured.
Ramey
How much of a fan could she be if you didn’t know for 6 months?
Haha yeah Swish is red hot. He had a net positive day yesterday but he’s hardly red hot.
Hinske is hitting well when given a shot and this will be his only opportunity to start this weekend (facing 3 lefties after today). He gets the start today, makes complete sense to me.
Melky is what he is. I’m not saying he’s bad. But he’s not an everyday player and it’s ok to have someone else play in his place. Together they’ve combined for a pretty good CFer.
good lord this is insane.. that line drive by burrell was really close to being fair.. I think he might have gotten a little help there…
.259 is > .240. Whatever. Just let the 2 kids play, and Melky will outplay Gardner in the end. Gardner just can’t hit at this level.
But he is white! So I know all of you will love him, right Pete?
“In retrospect there were no clues?”
None. At all. Whatsoever. She would watch every Yankee game with me and even asked me to take her to one (saturday) for her birthday. And then drops the bombshell 2 days before that, saying she’s a Sox fan. And she isn’t the type of person to make jokes or anything, so I know it’s 100% serious. She’s diabolical
Give It A Rest Pete-Dude, you are way off base if you think it’s racial.
defensive subs in for the white sox
Melky & Gardner are complementary players – neither strong enough to take on the job full time (a pair of 4th OFs).
Hopefully Jackson is the real thing & will replace both in a year or 2.
MLB.com letting you watch for free!!
mlb.com is showing it for free for those stuck at work.
Going to the ninth in Chicago, Buerhle three outs away!
good enough, m. i guess i’ll root for him!
Ramey
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
None. At all. Whatsoever. She would watch every Yankee game with me and even asked me to take her to one (saturday) for her birthday. And then drops the bombshell 2 days before that, saying she’s a Sox fan. And she isn’t the type of person to make jokes or anything, so I know it’s 100% serious. She’s diabolical
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Hahaha. Yeah, you cannot trust someone like that
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Did you guys even look at the matchups in this series?
3 lefties start in the 3 games after tonight. With a RHP on the mound, this is the perfect time for Girardi to get guys like Gardner and Hinske some at bats.
OH MY GOD DID YOU JUST SEE THAT PLAY!?!?!?!?!?!?
WOW, Wise made an awesome play!!!
1. batter #1 – Wise goes over the fence to rob Kapler of a homer
OH MY GOD WHEN YOU SEE THE CATCH DWAYNE WISE JUST MADE TO SAVE THIS PERFECT GAME YOU WILL GET FULL BODY CHILLS!!
These CWS announcers on my computer radio are so loud, people are looking at me
Groan.
Now you take him out.
Wow. That was a catch!
INCREDIBLE.
What a catch!
Upstate kate-
supposedly she’s a huge fan, has been for 20 years and is madly in love with papelbon. basically the worst case scenario. Frankly, I blame myself for being so naive into thinking a girl who goes to school in massachusetts is a yankee fan
WOW!
What the heck? Gameday says In play out recorded, then it says Kapler doubles, now it is changed to a flyout.
What happened?
What? Gameday said it was a double and then changed it to an out.
Never mind, leave him in.
1 OUT!!!!!!
2. Hitter #2 – strike out on full count
damn even Legraca screamed in the background on that catch
after that catch, i’m no longer on the fence…
Holy crap one more out
HE DID IT!
HE DID IT !
3. Hitter #3 – Bartlett – out to shortstop. Perfect
WOW!!!!!
congrats to Marky Mark.
HISTORY!!!!
Hope this sends the Rays into a tail spin
DWAYNE WISE >>> JACOLBY ELLSBURY
WOW mad props to Buehrle
HE DID IT!!!!
Fantastic, congratulations to Buerhle.
so DeWayne Wise getting a bonus for saving the perfect game?
WOW!!!!!!!!
That was pretty amazing. 17th time in history
Amazing
cool 8)
have i mentioned, i’ve always been a fan of Buerhle
Absolutely amazing that Wise made that play considering he just came into the game
good for him….but he owes the CFer a Rolex.
Btw- It is so dark it looks like Armageddon outside my window
lol, saucY.
I wish Buerle wore 8) because his eyes creep me out!
I am shaking right now.
That’s not against the Royals or Orioles.
That’s against one of the best hitting teams in the league.
A superb performance by Buerhle.
First White Sox perfect game since 1922. Charlie Robertson. Wise was put into play center field in the 9th inning for defense.
AMAZING!!
Ramey-
Papelbon??? thats a deal breaker right there
No-hitter and PG within a week of each other, not bad.
PERFECT GAME! Yeah I know I’m late LOL.
Wow!
Just came upstairs from my workout to see That Buerhle got his perfect game! What a catch to end the game – saved the perfecto, the no-hitter and the shutout all at once.
Congratulations!!!
upstate kate-
I know, really! if she was a mets fan, alright i can live with it. you love david wright? sure wahtever. You love the red sox? ughhhhhhh and then to top it off you love that guy? end my life
“He is 24 years old, young players slump. I know it’s hard to comprehend Melky is a young player since he has been in the majors since he was 21, but he is still really young, younger than Gardner. If he isn’t going to play everyday and given a chance to go through his slumps, figure out a way to send him to AAA to get regular at bats.”
Gardner is 25 and didn’t have those 3 more years of MLB experience to prove himself… or in Melky’s case, prove himself to be an inadequate centerfielder.
Congrats to Buerhle! Now we don’t have to say the last perfect game was Randy Johnson!
Wise’s catch was the single best catch I’ve ever seen.
WHAT A CATCH!!!
The last out of the perfect game with all the yapping until MLB Network cuts the feed:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/630704756cd960c0/
And people wonder why we love baseball.
Because we see stuff like this.
BTW, Buerhle has 2 no-nos in three years.
Holy crap Wise saved Buehrle’s bacon
Pretty smart move by Guillen, eh?
meanwhile
Betancourt has been traded to the Rockies
WhiteSox Brian Anderson OF has demanded a trade
“I need to play every day and be an everyday big-leaguer,” Anderson said. “I have more to offer. If it’s not with the White Sox, then maybe it really is time for a change.”
Spillsborough is being shopped
Oops! The cathc wasn”t the game ender. But it was the game saver!
“Gardner is 25 and didn’t have those 3 more years of MLB experience to prove himself… or in Melky’s case, prove himself to be an inadequate centerfielder.”
This argument is silly…as I’m sure you both have gathered by now, both guys are going to play and both guys have contributed to us being in first place. if either was really a strong starting player then the other wouldn’t be playing…just be happy with the fact that the 2 guys together make up a pretty decent CF and move on.
that catch by wise was unbelievable – i’m sure he was thinking the whole time, i’ve got to make this play. Couldnt have happened to a better guy. Buehrle is a class act!
Brandon-WHO CARES ABOUT PETTY TRADES AND PENNANT RACES!!!!
WE JUST WITNESSED HISTORY!!!!
so what do you think the CF of the White Sox gets? A new car of his choice? a 10k dollar watch?
You know, congrats to Buerhle, but do they really, really have to compare perfect games? (I’m wtching ESPN now). So, we shouldn’t be happy with Cone’s or Well’s perfect games because of the opponents????
I know he covered the Yankees, but again,
he had to qualify Cone and Wells perfect games on ESPN. Did anyone just hear Buster Olney say what he said.
Pel do you have Wise’s catch and can you post it?
That catch was INSANE!! This is why I love baseball, that was amazing.
Doreen,
read his article, he mentions the 2 perfect games in bad light, and on Sportscenter a week ago, he said we “no hit 2 minor league teams”
Big question:
Does Obama know? Politics aside, he’s a huge ChiSox fan!
A perfect game is a perfect game. No matter the lineup, it’s an almost impossible feat.
Anyone have Wise’s catch on youtube or something? Im at the office and I can’t watch ESPN!
JAP
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I know he covered the Yankees, but again,
he had to qualify Cone and Wells perfect games on ESPN. Did anyone just hear Buster Olney say what he said.
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I missed it what did olney say about cone and wells perfect games?
Wait, he’s a RHB and a good athletic OF…Swish/Damon hmmm….you know you know
Only caught the ninth inning, but anyone else notice how quickly Buehrle was working? What a rhythm.
I know, really! if she was a mets fan, alright i can live with it. you love david wright? sure wahtever. You love the red sox? ughhhhhhh and then to top it off you love that guy? end my life
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You can think of it this way: If she was really a die-hard sox fan, would she have hidden it for 6 months? Thats a long time to keep something like that hidden. I agree with you though, she picked the worst guy on team to like – Papelbon is gross.
Ramey,
How did she handle fessing up to you about being a Red Pox fan? Was she acting guilty, gleeful, apologetic? Why is she telling you this now, do you think?
Ramey, you’ve got your Lohud posse behind you.
>Pel do you have Wise’s catch and can you post it?
I didn’t record anything but the last out. I wouldn’t have recorded it until I thought “he just needs to record 1 more ouRECORD RECORD I HAVE TO RECORD THIS!”
Well Olney writes for a 2-bit organization.
Weelly? Did he really say that?
A perfecto is great whether it’s little league, high school, college, minors, or against the Twins.
The Gardner/Melky nonsense is getting ridiculous. It is July now. This is a platoon situation, pretty much. Both have done well, neither has done enough to break the platoon, each has his own strengths. I think it’s working out just fine. Why does it have to be an adversarial situation? Why can’t we be happy the two of them are working out? They’re both Yankees.
Brandon-A PERFECT GAME!!!
I’m still shaking…Oh my God…
“Spillsborough is being shopped”
I like Spillsborogh. A potiential 300 hitter with good speed and defense. Get it Cash.
exactly Doreen
BJK -
he worked that fast from the time he took the mound. He was in rhythm from pitch 1. He had 60 pitches through 6 innings. Incredible work on his part and only really one great defensive play.
I’m thinking she told me because finally the red sox are behind the Yankees, so she feels she needed to confess that she’s been laughing behind my back all season as she watched every game with me. I truly believe she is evil now.
I’m more confused by the fact i shelled out hundreds of dollars to get her tickets to her first ever yankee game for her birthday and now she’s a red sox fan? If she was looking for a reason to get me to break up with her, she found the winner
77513
he said a week ago, the cone and wells “no hit 2 minor league teams” and today he said something about the rays being one of the best offenses in baseball and cone and wells did not face great offenses. Something similar to that is what he said today,
“UPDATE, 4:20 p.m.: Girardi just said Mariano Rivera is not likely available tonight.”
Why? Pitching too much or something else?
Wow I can’t believe I got the lineup right.
Great catch by Wise.
Who should we trade for Buehrle?
Just kidding….
Olney really said that. I know there was a conversation earlier in the week = he had just written about those two perfect games and basically denigrated or downgraded them. How insane is that???? But to hear him say it with my own ears, just, wow.
Why do people get so worked up over Cabrera? Some people take it very personally and really get into it.
Reading through the comments was almost as good as witnessing the perfect game.
You guys are the bomb!!!
UPDATE, 4:20 p.m.: Girardi just said Mariano Rivera is not likely available tonight.
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Bruney! Curses!
Ramey
Dump her you know what and if she’s living with you, throw all her belongings in the street before she gets home from work and change the locks on the door.
Maybe Hughes gets his first save tonight
Wise catch –
http://mlbnetwork.mlb.com/medi.....id=5699065
Well thank god, I’m glad we can discount Lesters and Buchholz no nos as well. Ratty royals team and a bad, packing it in orioles team
Ramey,
she did not tell you this whole time that she was a red sox fan for GOOD LUCK. She did not want to jinx anything. The only way to negate her good luck is to dump her.
“Dump her you know what and if she’s living with you, throw all her belongings in the street before she gets home from work and change the locks on the door.”
hahahahahahhahahahh
Absolutely Jerkface,
but you wont hear Boston Olney saying that.
JAP
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
77513
he said a week ago, the cone and wells “no hit 2 minor league teams” and today he said something about the rays being one of the best offenses in baseball and cone and wells did not face great offenses. Something similar to that is what he said today,
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Buster Olney is a fool if he tried to discredit Cone and Wells perfect games as not being as great because it was againts a weaker lineup.
There are plenty of weak lineups in baseball more pitchers should be throwing perfect games then if it is so easy to do. My god some of these baseball analysts at ESPN are clueless.
whats the chances that this game is actually played? weather.com’s report is not looking good right now
Ramey,
Can you recap what’s going on? I want to get in on the advice business, too.
Ramey-
In all seriousness, she sounds like a sociopath
“There are plenty of weak lineups in baseball more pitchers should be throwing perfect games then if it is so easy to do. My god some of these baseball analysts at ESPN are clueless.”
Exactly.
“Brandon-A PERFECT GAME!!!
I’m still shaking…Oh my God…”
I know me too. But I still can’t shake Damon and Swish in the COF
Brian Anderson, Ryan Spilborghs, Lasting Milledge, Austin Kearns…
Ramey,
Given what she’s done, how can you enjoy going to the game with her? Why don’t you take someone else so that at least you’ll enjoy yourself?
i just saw the catch.
absolutely insane.
Does Olney not remember that Cone’s PG had a 45 minute rain delay, among other things?
Melky is a Lefthander who happens to be a switch-hitter. His strongest side is batting lefthanded. When Gardner plays it is usually against a right handed pitcher and that is the side that is a strength for both Melky & Gardner. So in reality Gardner is taking at bats away from Melky that would be more favorable to him. When Gardner starts against a lefthander which is rare, then he is probably helping Melky statistically. Melky has the 5th or 6th highest batting average on the team which is pretty good. He also hits with runners in scoring position which is a plus. I am not against Gardner, but I just don’t think his value is maximized as a starter. He needs to play enough still to be a viable option which is what Joe G seems to be doing.
But to selectively choose 2-20 since the AS break is a bit clumsy. Several of those games were 2-1 games with very few hits by the Yankees as a team. Also, Melky went 2 for 3 the last game before the All-Star break. LOL! 4-23 is not much better still.
But when I look at the games played it doesn’t appear that Melky is 2 for his last 20! Maybe 2 for last 17.
MELKY AB H AB H AVE
7/9/2009 4 1 4 1 0.250
7/10/2009 3 1 7 2 0.286
7/11/2009 2 1 9 3 0.333
7/12/2009 3 2 12 5 0.417
7/17/2009 4 1 16 6 0.375
7/18/2009 3 1 19 7 0.368
7/19/2009 3 0 22 7 0.318
7/20/2009 3 0 25 7 0.280
7/21/2009 4 0 29 7 0.241
7/22/2009 0 0 29 7 0.241
7/23/2009 0 0 29 7 0.241
And when Sanchez threw that almost perfecto two weeks ago, did Olney call the Padres the new Murderers Row???
The point is, what does Buehrle’s perfect game have to do with Wells’ or Cone’s? Why can’t each one be appreciated on its own merits? Why even bring those up?
Why did he bring those up in his recent article? Because the 10th Anniversary of Cone’s was recently celebrated?
Ramey,
It’s clear that now that the Sox are down 2 games, she is trying to reverse the luck by coming clean. The only way to negate the luck reversal is to give her the boot.
Yankees are going to have to trade for a 5th SP, Michael Kaye is screaming about Joba’s innings limit creeping up…what do you do now ?
How would you like to be Tampa Bay right now?
- On Thursday they got No-Hit in a perfect game by Mark Buerle.
- The following day they have to face Roy “Doc F’ing” Halladay.
No fun hah!
m,
basically, i’ve been with my girlfriend for 6 months now, under the guise that she’s a yankee fan, watches all teh games with me, asks me questions, is in love with johnny damon, even went as far as making disparaging red sox remarks. then today, she comes out of the closet and admits she’s a diehard chowdah fan and wants papelbon’s love child.
either my real girlfrien has been abducted by aliens or ashton kutcher is jumping out of my dining room.
Haha, “Swisherror”. Pretty good. Forecast isn’t looking great for tonight’s game….. 100%??? Ouch
And Vladimir Guerrero, Jose Vidro, Rondell White were not automatic outs back in those days. Not to say that the Expos were amazing, but it’s a bogus argument. These are major league hitters for better or worse. To somehow have to rank perfect games is stupid–they are all great.
enough with gardner vs melky stuff. they both are avg. CF’s.
play the matchups and hot hand… they are both basically league avg.
melky is very clutch and gardners speed and D can help a lot. neither of them are replacing willie mays any time soon and neither of them are good enough to get 600 AB’s.
case closed…
Wells pitching against the Twins was a bit of a weak lineup, bit, nobody else was perfect against them. Any time a lineup has Vladamir Guerrero, Rondell White, Jose Vidro and Cabrera and Brad Fuller in it, it’s not a minor league lineup.
I’m actually a little surprised the Mets haven’t been no hit this season…
Joba is going to be at that innings limit very soon – perhaps by Sept 1. That’s assuming he goes 6 IP per start (unlikely) until that point. What do you do then?
We definitely need a starter down the stretch. What if CC, AJ or an aging Pettitte need to miss a start. Who goes?
Don’t tell me the K man.
“It’s clear that now that the Sox are down 2 games, she is trying to reverse the luck by coming clean. The only way to negate the luck reversal is to give her the boot.”
I just want everybody to realize that when I dump her and the Yankees win the division by 5 games, I did it all for you.
I just read about Buehrle’s perfect game. Wow.
I suppose now Cahsman should have traded for him over the winter, right?
Ah … if he was on the Yanks, he’d be harshly criticized the next game he lost.
This is the Yankees best lineup – batting wise.
No Melky is always a positive.
Innings limits are stupid…it should be an overall season pitch count, not an innings limit.
all you need to know about buster olney is the peddling aros is washed up stuff about 4 weeks ago.
it was only 4 weeksago when olney tried to bury arod, remember??????????
how guys like olney do it is they say a unnammed scout told me” “.. hey the unnammed scout or you buster owes the washed up arod a apology… if this is washed up where can I sign up the rest of the team for it…
sportswriters are like financial experts they are considered good or an expert if they are right about 15% of the time……………………………
Ramey
There is no truer Yankee fan than you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hokiehill
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
“Gardner is 25 and didn’t have those 3 more years of MLB experience to prove himself… or in Melky’s case, prove himself to be an inadequate centerfielder.”
This argument is silly…as I’m sure you both have gathered by now, both guys are going to play and both guys have contributed to us being in first place. if either was really a strong starting player then the other wouldn’t be playing…just be happy with the fact that the 2 guys together make up a pretty decent CF and move on.
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this statement is only true if melky & gardner hit well enough like melky has through the month of june for the most part.
melky is doing exactly what he did lasat year.
he dissappeared the second half & never got it going again last year.
if they combine to hit 250/320 obp a change will be made.
right mow melky is slumping so girardi is giving gardner a shot in hoping he gets hot.
if not look for a trade or a minor leaguer to be brought up.
OF possibilities
Brian Anderson, Ryan Spilborghs, Lasting Milledge, Austin Kearns, Ryan Sweeney
#5 SP
Bronson Arroyo, Jared Washburn, Aaron Harang, Jonathan Sanchez, Ian Snell, Zach Duke (It’s PIT)
worrying about Joba’s innings limit now is laughable.. get back to me in 40 games….
it is like worrying that the earth will fizzle out in 2000 years….
40 games in baseball is an eternity….just win………………
The innings limit won’t matter for the playoffs. If Joba turns out to be the third best starter on the staff he’ll pitch in the playoffs. Cashman has already said development goes out the window in a playoff game.
Let him pitch up to it and then give him some time off, then let him pitch 1 or 2 outings before the end of the season. If we are in the playoffs, let him start (if he is good)
Ramey
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
“It’s clear that now that the Sox are down 2 games, she is trying to reverse the luck by coming clean. The only way to negate the luck reversal is to give her the boot.”
I just want everybody to realize that when I dump her and the Yankees win the division by 5 games, I did it all for you.
****
Just out of curiousity- how cute is she?
If Mo can’t go tonight and Phil gets his first save, I wonder if AJ will pie him?
>Why? Pitching too much or something else?
It would have to be that.
He’s pitched the 17th, 18th, 19th, 21st, and 22nd. Maybe a little rest is due. Thanks, Bruney.
Ramey, dumping your Papelbum-loving GF is the only way to be a True Yankee.
Otherwise you’re stuck in the A-Rod zone forever.
Erica-
She’s no Megan Fox, but I was always proud to bring her around friends.
Kearns isn’t that much of an outfield improvement and neither is the bat. Milledge is in the minor leagues for a reason…actually four reasons…..attitude, bat, defense and baseball common sense.
Hey Rebecca didn’t AJ + bullpen 1 hit them – or was it 2?
I know it was close
L to the 2nd-1 hit.
Please tell me they aren’t moving Joba to the BP, that would piss me off.
a cute red sox fan girlfriend? i say keep her because she’s a rare breed. and another reason sox fans can be jealous of you.
>She’s no Megan Fox, but I was always proud to bring her around friends.
pics or shens
Ramey
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Erica-
She’s no Megan Fox, but I was always proud to bring her around friends.
***
Awww. I wasn’t judging- I was just trying to gauge your sacrifice
Suddenly ESPN turned into Attack of The Show.
W T F W W L?
“Awww. I wasn’t judging- I was just trying to gauge your sacrifice”
honestly, i think i’ve been sold on the fact i need to dump her haha
Ramey,
Get Matsui’s artist so we can have some idea of what your gf looks like.
Ramey – think of the children! Why won’t someone think of the children!
The poor tykes would be confused as heck and end up Rays fans.
this whole thing about needing another starter is stupid. If you move Joba to the ‘pen, stretch out Ace and you’re done. They are not going to get a better pitcher for the rotation unless they get Doc or Lee and that isn’t happening. With both Joba and Hughes in the ‘pen there is no longer an issue with depth so that argument goes out the window.
Man, I’d love it if they called the game before I left. I am going to get so wet….
It is actual good that Hughes has become so dominant in the bullpen. Because you can now rest Mo a little and still be very confident that Hughes can get a save if needed. The yanks are funny they went a long strech without needed Mo to pitch. Now after the allstar game basically every game is close and they are winning and need him to get the save.
“She’s no Megan Fox, but I was always proud to bring her around friends.”
So she doesn’t have freaky weird thumbs?
Here’s the problem -
there is too much time and space that has to be filled – on the air, in newspapers, on blogs – so everything gets talked and dissected to death.
And I guess I’m an accomplice, along with all of you here!
“Ramey,
Get Matsui’s artist so we can have some idea of what your gf looks like.”
That artist would just make her look too good. I mean Matsui’s wife is purrty
Rebecca-
I hope they don’t make you go there either.
I can get behind the idea of a doubleheader tomorrow. I am way too productive on Fridays
Joe I-Get Tomko to paint her.
Hokiehill-
Thankfully, no. That would freak me out a little bit haha
When this original game was rained out back in April, they called it at like 5 right?
Anderson and Kearns are terrible. Milledge isn’t going anywhere and isn’t much of an upgrade.
Spillbough isn’t exactly overwhelming.
None of those guys are worth dealing for because they don’t upgrade the team.
If Joba’s innings limit is 150 and he is at 95 now, do the math. He’s not making 14 more starts the rest of the year AND start in the playoffs.
Sounds like he’s going to be in the bullpen in September and they will probably have to go outside the organization to get another starting pitcher.
Ramey,
Dont worry. You’re sacrificing for the greater good!
Chien-Ming Wang sought a second opinion on his shoulder. They’re waiting on the results.
Girardi also said that Joba’s innings limits are a concern in terms of rotation depth. He still has concerns there. Not “go get Halladay” concerns, but concerns.
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Wang.
Fingers crossed no setbacks
Ramey,
Okay. From what I gleaned earlier I WAS going to say, it’s no big deal love is blind, blah, blah, blah.
But she was definitely lying by omission. You must be some kind of special because 6 months is a long time to pretend to be something you’re not.
She likes Papelbon? You don’t, by any chance, have very thin lips, do you? That would explain a lot.
At any right, this girl has been dishonest for 6 months. This is right up there with lying about having kids, fibbing about your age. I mean she sounds like a mole that was on a mission or something.
What will you do?
Ramey,
She’d have to know that you’ve got to dump her now, don’t you think?
I’m still shaking OMG I can’t believe he through a no hitter!! best day of my life!
I think Joba’s limit is 170.
When Joba runs out of innings limits, we can always bring in Kei Igawa.
Igawa will probably make the start in CC’s spot against Tampa if today’s game gets rained out anyway
Wow, not cool. I wrote a long, innocent post that got eaten up.
The worst thing I wrote in there was “thin lips”.
Pete, please rescue my post.
Since they’ve come out and said that Hughes isnt going back into the rotation and we know that Joba has to get shut down eventually, Cash will get a pitcher before the deadline.
The good news is that Joba goes into the pen for the stretch run and playoffs…making the pen even stronger than it is now (plus Marte is coming back).
The bad news is that as of today Mitre would be the 4th starter in a playoff series. There is no way that’s happening. Cash will get an arm.
Remember folks. When you write a long post, make sure you copy it, so you can paste it again if it gets deleted.
Very disconcerting to see that Mo’s not available after the way Girardi deployed him yesterday, whether a prudent decision or no.
I hope the decision is merely a precaution, a result of him pitching 5 of the last 6 games, and not because he’s experiencing soreness or fatigue.
Have the Yankees exhausted all of Bruney’s options? I can’t understand why they wouldn’t send him down to AAA otherwise to rectify his control problems. His command might improve from the extra work. How many times can Girardi call on him if it costs the Yankees 2 or more runs.
In the meantime, I’d like to see more of Melancon. Letting a kid languish in the bullpen without regular work isn’t a good idea.
Wait a second….
Ramey,
maybe she is telling you this so you dump her so you’re the bad guy, giving the Yankees the bad luck. Maybe she wants to dump you but she doesnt want to give the Sox bad luck, so she’s trying to get you to do it to bring the wrath on us.
Rwins are in deep now. Joe Crede and Glen Perkins are scheduled to see Dr. Lewis Yokum in LA this week. Berkman is on the 15 day DL with a Grade two calf strain. Ship them Nick swisher for bullpen help.
Listen to your heart, Ramey. This could be a beautiful Capulet/Montague or Jets/Sharks thing without the bloodshed.
Or maybe you’re tempting fate. Hmmmmm.
See how the game goes on Saturday.
Ed H-
I’m hoping that’s what she realizes is coming. I mean she has always known my stance on red sox fans. maybe she felt after 6 months and only 2 days before her birthday she could drop the bombshell on me and i’d be sympathetic to it and not dump her
Correction: Twins
But the question is… what do you do with that pitcher we acquire until Joba reaches his innings? What if Mitre has another good start next time and doesn’t deserve to be yanked from the rotation yet?
You’d probably have to acquire a Sanchez/Snell type that you can keep in the pen or something until we need him. If we get Washburn or someone established, he is going to start as soon as he gets here.
As far as Buster discounting Cone’s and Wells’ perfect games….
That discounts Buster as a baseball analyst more than it mitigates the achievements of both men.
There have only been 17 perfect games in the HISTORY of baseball. I don’t care who you do it against, its a monumental achievement.
For some reason, Buster has really kicked into Pro-Red Sox, Anti-Yankee mode this year.
From being the leading cheerleade (even moreso than Peter Gammons) in the “Pump up Brad Penny for Theo” derby, to writing Arod’s career obituary a “bit” early, he’s really been off his game this year.
He must be feeling the heat of making sure he stays within the ESPN Agendas because he’s lost his way as a credible baseball analyst this year.
mark,
Thanks, but I didn’t think losing a post on relationship advice would bring me this kind of agita.
Nick in Sf-
loved the capulet/montague reference. well said
That was beautiful, Nick.
Joba will not be shut down.
He’s going join “Yuzze” who’s been a fabulous Joba imposter (from his bullpen days) In fact it’s interesting who to go to provided Joba is as great as he was in his former role.
Joba in the 8th or Phil?
Nice options
Mo has pitched 5 of the last 6 days. Of course he’s not available tonight. He will be available tomorrow.
Bruney doesn’t have any options remaining so, AAA is not an option.
This game is not getting played, no way. Rain is not letting up until the morning. It only lightens after midnight. T-Storms until then.
Don’t even bother to make the trip, this game is not getting played. I guarntee it.
oh, 2 days before her birthday, forget my last comment. Dump her and dont get her a present.
I am leaving work now. I will see you all later.
Look on the brightside- if the game is rained out we can continue to talk about Ramey’s love life all night. I would discuss my own, but I really have none. LOL
SJ44,
Boston Olney has been anti NY and pro Boston for quite a while now. Not just this year.
Just buy her a Yankees hat for her bday
Ramey,
Have you asked her why she deceived you about this?
Baker-Careful. I said that and they jumped all over me like rabid hyenas or something.
Joba threw 100 innings last year. Its impossible for him to have an innings limit of 170. That falls well outside the guidelines.
Its more like 140-150 and even 150 is on the high side.
Cashman has plenty of time to address another starter before September 1st. As he indicated already, there will be very few waiver blocks this season due to the economy and shrinking revenues. Right now, the cost of doing a trade is prohibitive so he’ll wait and be patient before pulling the trigger at the price he wants to make a deat at.
I have not thought once about Joba’s innings until I read what Pete wrote. Did the math-Joba is avg about 5 1/3 innings per start as of today. If he makes approx 32 starts, his innings pitched will be approx 175. That would be a 75 inning jump from his total last year. Could be a bit too much of a jump from one year to the next.
What to do?
Shut him down? I don’t think so.
Take him out of the rotation & move him into the pen, that is very possible.
at his current pace, Joba’s projected to pitch 168 innings (per ESPN). if his ceiling for this season is around 150 innings, he’ll need some down time in September.
It doesn’t seem like a huge concern.
NYY needs to win te next two games by 5-6 runs and give Rivera, Hughes and maybe Coke a couple of days off.
Seems like every perfect game has some kind of amazing defensive play. Congrats Mark Buehrle! Amazing!
I’m out. Still shaking from the perfecto.
the yankees would be insane to increase joba by 70 innings over last year.
150 is pushing it.i wouldn’t do it.
“Mo has pitched 5 of the last 6 days. Of course he’s not available tonight. He will be available tomorrow.
Bruney doesn’t have any options remaining so, AAA is not an option.”
It’s amazing that Girardi has to actually announced the obvious about Rivera. You have your ace going tonight and it’s a perfect opportunity to give him a blow.
Do we have to play a DH?
Why couldn’t we just cancel the game and play it if it becomes necessary after the season?
On the other hand, if you are determined to end it and want to do so in high style, wait until Saturday and say:
“You want your birthday present? It’s waiting outside. It’s the curb. Hit it! See ya!”
But that wouldn’t be nice.
ooh- Ramey!!!
When you break up with her, make sure you say “Go Buchholz yourself!”
Okay, leaving now. Bye bye
A September callup could take a couple of Joba’s starts. Phil or Aceves would be perfect. What? They’re not starters anymore? Huh.
Well, reverse Joba & Aceves soon. And when the playoffs come around (if), reverse them back.
Girardi on with Francesa.
What a catch by Wise in the White Sox game.
Congrats to Buehrle. What a pimp.
the most joba has ever thrown professional is 2007 when he pitches 112 innings between the majors and minors…142 innings this year is not out of the realm…
Olney is a hack.. the arod obituary a few weeks ago was the last straw.
then the back peddle, just saying what a unnamed scout or 2 told me.. that unnamed scout routine is the weak bs impossible to verify BS that hacks like him do all the time…
the 5 best teams in baseablll are; yanks, sux, tampa, dodgers, and phillies…these are the creme de la ceme…
the yanks need 1 more starter for the back of the rotation…boston needs a starter and some offense. tampa needs kazmir to wake up…philly needs a starter and so do the dodgers. also the dodgers need a arm for the pen since torre is overusing his guys like crazy. look up the dodger appearance #’s…2 young pen guys already been on the dl this year….
who said anything about 142-Joba is at 95 right now. his pace is to pass up 142 by about 25 innings.
come Sept, a decision will have to be made.
the obvious choice is sending him to the pen, replacing him in the rotation with someone.
we might have to get used to Joba in the pen beginning in Sept, through the playoffs.
As the team’s 5th starter, there was talk about occasionally skipping Joba in the rotation to get him through the year.
Unfortunately, Wang’s injury and having our 6th and 7th starter in the bullpen hasn’t allowed that to happen.
in David Wells’ perfect game, the Twins had Paul Molitor, Matt Lawton, Marty Cordova, Ron Coomer among others in the lineup. Those guys were absolutely not scrubs.
in David Cone’s perfect game, the Expos lineup included such established hitters as Vlad Guerrero, Rondell White, Jose Vidro, Brad Fullmer and Orlando Cabrera.
Hey, Buster, you’re full of Buchholz, buddy.
xyz
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
at his current pace, Joba’s projected to pitch 168 innings (per ESPN). if his ceiling for this season is around 150 innings, he’ll need some down time in September.
It doesn’t seem like a huge concern.
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The version of Joba that averages 5.1 innings per game is on pace for 168 innings.
But not too many people are fans of that version of Joba.
Is it really necessary for Girardi to be broadcasting his concerns re: Joba? First he telecast his concerns about the rotation depth and now this……If he’s got concerns, take them to Cashman. It’s stupid publicize this.
I’m glad on on vacation and can’t listen to Francesca. I don’t care what he says – he’s not a Yankee fan. He spends all of his time pumping up the Sox and denigrating the Yankees. I’ve RARELY heard him give them credit – they are in first place by 2 games, playing great ball. What’s his problem that he can’t be satisfied at this moment? Not only is this a very good team, but it’s a very likeable team and Francesca seems to dislike them. Oh well, that’s his problem.
His comment (which I obviously missed ) about Bucholz and Joba is borderline insane. Forget how Joba’s done (not so great) – Bucholz has pitched all of two games and neither were memorable. I wonder if he’s the unnamed scout making that comment someone posted earlier about Joba.
I wouldn’t compare the lineups of the Twins/Expos to a lineup with Crawford, Upton, Longoria, Pena, Burrell, Zobrist, Bartlett etc.
So much for an update on the weather
Burhlee is like Greg Maddux… doesn’t have great stuff but does it with guile and control
The Expos line up in 1999 was not all that different than the Rays today.
Where did I compare the lineups to the Rays?
Point out exactly where.
“Chien-Ming Wang sought a second opinion on his shoulder. They’re waiting on the results.”
Maybe the second guy will tell him that he didn’t actually feel any pain/ternderness in his shoulder.
why am i going to drive to the stadium, pay for parking and get food before they cancel the game and i turn around and drive home.
because i am a sucker.
We’ll need a starter for the Rays series if today’s game is rained out. Igawa time?
lost in all this rhetoric about innings counts and how many starts he can make is that the best thing for the Yankees would be if Joba averages 6-7 innings per start for the rest of the time he is in the rotation. If that happens he will make 7 more starts. That will leave the Yankees with 36 games left on the schedule and 3 consecutive Thursday off in September, which would allow them to skip the #5 starter 3 times. That leaves 4-5 starts to deal with in his absence. I’m not going to worry about 5 games out of 70 during the rest of the season, these things have a way of working themselves out plus the Yankees, if they keep playing as they have for the past month, might be 10 games ahead of the wild card race by the time this all happens. Even Kei Igawa can’t cause a 10 game swing in the standings with a couple of starts (although he is so bad it might be possible).
Ramey
If she likes you enough to tell you that she is a RSox fan and still wants to be in a relationship with you then I believe she is special. Perhaps you should think with your heart and not your NYY! Good-Luck!
Wang will wing multiple games for the Yanks this season when he comes back. He was getting his stuff back right before he got hurt again. He is close.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys! It’s time to go see the papelbon lover, catch you all later! Hope they play tonight
Please, do not use Wang and ‘wing’ in the same breath.
So they need a #5 starter and a #3 starter – good luck with that, Cash. Hal doesn’t want to spend any more $$ and who, really, is out there to acquire?
Congrats to Buherle on an astonishing victory. The fact that Buster (it’s hard to take anyone with the name Buster seriously) would actually try to denigrate any no no or perfect game makes him small-minded and shows off his lack of knowledge. I guess he assumes people will just by the garbage he’s trying to sell. Since I’m not an ESPN Insider, I’m not one of the priviledged ones who gets to read his not so keen insight on a daily basis. Lucky me, lol
Man that is so sad. The 1998 and 1999 Yankees are still getting hate in 2009!
SJ 44,
they don’t value all of his innings the same. Relief innings count as more than starter innings so that’s how they calculated the number.
The Joe Girardi Report with Mike Francesa:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63073136c28685b8/
The only way Kei Igawa ever sees the inside of Yankee Stadium again is if he buys a ticket.
AAAA signing bust – only $40m down the toilet
Anyone have any idea about this rain?
Joba as a starter 3.52 era in 161 ip
Bucholtz as a starter 5.52 era in 104.1 ip
Bucholtz is 2 years older than Chamberlain. It is not only Francesa but it is amazing how much grief Joba gets from radio personalites and writers about how he belongs in the bullpen. And Bucholtz gets hyped up as a future ace.
Well, it is late July, and we knew all along that Joba would have an innings limit. No surprise for the informed.
If Cash is having any difficulty in landing an appropriate replacement for the rotation, then I would expect to see more of Mark Melancon coming out of the pen, to see if he’s capable of picking up some of the innings, thereby Ace to start.
“Mariano Rivera has converted 97 of 101 save chances since April 21, 2007.”
Holy Mokes. Greatest closer of all time?
I know the perfect presciption for these starting pitching woes… but does it come with a poison pill?
Pete: Something, anything on the rain before I give myself pnuemonia?
“Holy Mokes. Greatest closer of all time?”
You need very few statistics to prove that. Just watch him pitch.
This is our best lineup………No Swisher, no Melky
If this game is played (most likely not) it probably won’t start before 9pm.
I believe the Perfect Game by NYY Don Larsen has to be the most special anyway as that Broklyn team was loaded with HOF players. My hat is off to anyone who could do that.
Jim Gilliam 2b
Pee Wee Reese ss
Duke Snider cf
Jackie Robinson 3b
Gil Hodges 1b
Sandy Amoros lf
Carl Furillo rf
Roy Campanella c
(Pitchers)
Exactly, Joe. And Cashman himself has referenced that– they have Aceves on the team and can be a starter if needed.
The forecast from 9 calls for “light rain”, but a 100% chance of it.
Is that playable?
I hope they play today i want to see CC pitch perfecto…
Here is the starting rotation that the Phillies used to win the World Series last year:
1-Cole Hamels
2-Brett Myers
3-Jamie Moyer
4-Joe Blanton
Hamels is really good but this isn’t exactly a HOF starting rotation, is it?
The Rays rotation was:
-Kazmir
-Sonnenstine
-Garza
-Jackson
Jackson was held in such high regard by the Rays they shipped him to the Tigers over the winter (dumb move by the Rays, obviously).
What are they waiting for? Call the game!
Why make us loyal fans trek to the stadium and sit in the rain when there is not going to be a game? They don’t care about the fans spending money on parking, concessions etc. only to have a rain out and have that money go to waste?
Good for Francessa.
He’s pushing John Walsh, executive editor of espn on the Roethlesberger armslength treatment.
And now he’s asking about how they pretend to break stories. “You do do that. I’ve seen you do that.” lol. How’re you going to argue with that?
Cowherd likes to say, “first information is not always the best information.
MG – You forgot Shields… the Rays #1 starter.
Jackson was in the pen for the playoffs.
That’s exactly what they want to happen, Ralph. The Yankees have never shown an ounce of consideration to fans when it comes to rainouts.
I should say, the Yankees never show an ounce of consideration when it comes to updating fans on potential rainouts. They’ve been pretty good with crediting people who stick long rain delays out for future games and such, but in terms of letting people know what the deal is before they get to the Stadium, they are terrible.
I’ve gone so many times to the Stadium and the game’s been canceled. The Yankees don’t care — they make money on parking and concessions twice for one game so it works for them and us stupid fans keep coming back. It’s happened to me so many times I’d rather chance it tonight and stay home. My thinking is I’d rather waste the $100 on my tickets instead of going there and spending another $150 on beer and food to sit and watch a 6 hour game with delays or a canceled game altogether. There’s no way this game is starting on time — 90% chance of rain from 6pm-1am on weather.com.
I am about to get so so so wet….
You guys know why it’s raining, right?
Erica took her raincoat to Philly.
I would have loved to seen Cashman’s face when someone laughed as he mentioned Igawa started! Pete, was that you??
Did someone get lost on the way to the Loveline blog or does Dr. Drew post here now?
Personally, I’m not sure I would take relationship advice from people who might be willing to trade their 1st born for a hit with RISP on any given night.
“Why make us loyal fans trek to the stadium and sit in the rain when there is not going to be a game? They don’t care about the fans spending money on parking, concessions etc. only to have a rain out and have that money go to waste?”
I think that’s the point Ralph. They want to make money on concessions before they call the game.
ooops ” …. Igawa starting”
I was just in the city. If they get this game in I will be shocked.
vtred
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm
MG – You forgot Shields… the Rays #1 starter.
Jackson was in the pen for the playoffs.
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you’re right, the original page I checked had them wrong but neither rotation is HOF quality, is it?
And I would give the Yankees playoff rotation of CC, AJ, Andy, and whoever pitches in the 4th game a big advantage, but that’s just me.
Game 1: Kazmir-Hamels http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=281022130
Game 2: Myers-Shields http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=281023130
Game 3: Moyers-Garza http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=281025122
Game 4: Blanton-Sonnanstine http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=281026122
Is Erica in Philly as well? She should have told me, lol – not that it matters, but it was a pretty ugly day here (dreary, depressing….but never any thunderstorms or heavy rain)
If they postpone this already postponed game…is that some sort of record?
The cheesesteak doesn’t care whether it’s raining outside…
I didn’t look before, the catcher in Buehrle’s perfecto was Ramon Castro.
Nice job, Ramon.
“I didn’t look before, the catcher in Buehrle’s perfecto was Ramon Castro.
Nice job, Ramon.”
When it rains, it pours for the Mets.
I don’t live in NY but the hourly weather forecast for tomorrow seems just as bad as today, I’m sure that will factor into the decision.
Hey, thanks SJ44 for the options info. Is there a website that lists that kind of thing, that reveals how many options a player has remaining, if any?
Something to think about re: Joba’s innings limit.
The Yankees may have decided, rather than controlling Joba’s total innings to avoid the “year after effect,” they’re going to use a metric instead that combines number of starts and pitches thrown.
Remember the Yankees said at the season’s outset, they expected Joba to make 30 starts this season.
If you think about it, the logic of using (total starts of x pitches) is probably a more accurate index of a pitcher’s workload than total innings.
Why, for instance, would curbing a pitcher’s innings to 30% over his previous year ensure completely against overuse? What if in each of those additional 30 innings the game situation required him to throw an inordinate number of pitches, 25 or more, say. Or over the course of the season, his command began to unravel and he labored in almost EVERY inning?
On the other hand, if you figure in advance an exact number of starts and a uniform maxium pitch throughout, say 100 pitches, then you ensure against the possibility that those added innings are particularly stressful.
Managing a pitcher by total pitches thrown, instead of total innings pitched, seems like a more accurate index or his workload and an easier means to manage it besides.
In the end, 30 starts at 100 pitches per, regardless of the innings total, may determine the end point for Joba’s season. It would also mean once he’s done, he’s done, and they inactivate him. No bullpen.
I’m curious whether the Yankees or other teams have figured out a way in managing the year after effect to measure a starter inning of x pitches to a reliever inning of x pitches. Do they exact the same toll? It may affect Hughes’ innings cap.
UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: Here’s the latest on the weather. It’s pouring and the tarp is on the field. That’s all I can really tell you.
Can you be more descriptive?
Coming down in buckets? Raining Cats and Dogs? Ducks on the Pond?
It behooves the Yankees to play this game today, even if it is still raining hard and the field is wet
The ideal solution for Joba’s innings limit is if Wang comes back healthy to pitch by end of August.
Is tonight even the Yankees decision? Since its Oakland’s last trip to NY dont they need MLB permission to cancel?
I just think the Yankees, if they get rained out again, should just push this to the end of the year and only play the game if there are playoff implications.
This rain really is ruining tonight’s charitable day of HOPE week.
I honestly dunno how they could play this game. It isn’t pouring but it is definitely steady rain, by the end of the game the field will be a nightmare.
Bring up Andrew Brackman to replace Joba once he reaches his innings limits. Brackman is on the 40 man so we won’t need to make a move.
Betsy,
Oops. I got my people mixed up.
Erica was actually working yesterday, and telling us about the mean mets fan in the next cubicle.
It’s either a DH tomorrow or they wait really late to play.
Bad news about Wanger coming soon…
1. Getting Wanger back in August, and be effective, would be ideal.
2. If they don’t play tonight, I would look for a day-night DH on Saturday. The forecast is supposed to be best for that date.
Can anyone summarize what Cash said? I don’t have speakers on this computer….thanks!
Wang is not going to pitch again this season – at this point, we just have to hope he doesn’t need TJ.
It sucks, but aside from Halladay, there’s no pitching to be had…
M, a mean Mets fan? No such thing – now if you want to tell me he’s a depressed, whiny Met fan, that I can believe.
Yankees can’t just cancel the game… especially when there are 3 days left in the series. MLB won’t let them.
Only if it the final game of a series and there is no mutual off-day and there is no opportunity to play the game, do they cancel it. That was the case for the Washington game, and they waited 6 hours to play it. We still have 3 days to play a DH.
Is this weather system coming from the west or the east?
“UPDATE, 6:06 p.m.: No improvement for Wang since the other day. He said he is “worried.” Yankees are expected to issue an update before the evening is out.
Pel that is what matters to me the most. I want the rain to stop so the kids can have fun tonight.
“Is this weather system coming from the west or the east?”
Radar looks like its coming from down south, so it will likely hover over the city for several hours if not all night.
They would never re-schedule the game to the end of the season when they can just play a DH tomorrow. It’s not the Yankees choice either. As long as it doesn’t interfere with a TV window (i.e Fox on Saturdays, ESPN on Sunday night)
The 2 storms converged… one came from the South the other from the West. Doesn’t look like it’s going to stop anytime soon either.
m July 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Bad news about Wanger coming soon…
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Yeah, sounds like it.
Sucks.
Betsy,
I think it was a “she”, and I think she was grouchy, not mean.
back to this again…
should the yanks consider trade for cliff lee?
who would you be willing to give up? jackson? romine? mcallister?
wang done. joba innings limit. andy is a number 4/5 starter.
playoffs:
cc
aj
andy
joba might be in the pen cuz of the innings limit…not sure how he can pitch beyond september (let alone end of august) with his innings limit.
I hate rain.
If they do a DH tomorrow or Saturday, that would be cool (I dig DHs), but I really want them to play tonight. The team is rolling.
I just checked the radar and it appears to be a large slow-moving system heading up the coast in a north-northeast direction. I’m not a meteorologist but my guess is they will be lucky if this system clears the Bronx by 9:00pm (I’m not going out on a limb to indicate which day )
“should the yanks consider trade for cliff lee?”
No, the guy is a colossal fluke. He would get eaten up in the AL East.
They should postpone tonight and play a DH on Saturday. This is just stupid… who wants CC pitching in this anyway?
I think Joba will be the 4th starter in the playoffs. I think the innings limit is meant for the regular season.
If they play a DH, that means they need to find someone to start Wednesday against the Rays, unless CC goes on 3 days rest.
Gary
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
The 2 storms converged… one came from the South the other from the West. Doesn’t look like it’s going to stop anytime soon either.”
That’s horrible news for the Andrea Gale
Cliff Lee isn’t a fluke, lol.
He’s an elite pitcher, if you see his career stats you’ll notice few bad seasons but for the most part its winning seasons.
“77513 July 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I think Joba will be the 4th starter in the playoffs. I think the innings limit is meant for the regular season.”
yaaaaa…the stamina, endurance, and strain on his arm factors dont disappear just because it’s the playoffs…
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/%7Egadomski/ewall.html This is the best place to get your weather info.
The news on Wang stinks. But since his mechanics were messed up for so long an arm injury was very likely to happen. His mechanics, arms, feet, hips whatever else were all over the place for awhile that he definitely put a lot of pressure on his arm. Tough break for him and the team.
Seattle is red hot right now, I doubt Washburn is available.
Just saw the Wise catch… easily one of the 10 best I’ve ever seen. Considering the moment, how much ground he had to cover, and the bobble… unbelievable.
we can get doc…the only real pitcher out there is cliff lee…there is no reason to waste time on guys like arroyo.
either get a good pitcher, or just try to add an arm to the bullpen (lefty) and/or a corner outfielder (willingham type)…but i think first and main priority is getting a cliff lee type.
SCRANTON July 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/%7Egadomski/ewall.html This is the best place to get your weather info.
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That web page must set a record for the highest quantity of numbers on a page. Funny. Give me the radar images…..
They should have called the game at 4, I know a few people who are there and they are not too pleased about the forecast.
Wise’s catch was better than Willie Mays’
The Yanks have Mitre to fill in one slot for now and they still have more than 5 weeks before pulling Chamberlain because of innings. Panicing now isn’t an option. Going after Halladay and Lee is going to cost a bundle and no idea as to whether they will agree to long term extentions. Moving that amount of talent and money for less than multiple years is foolish.
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/%7Egadomski/ewall.html
^^^^^ say what?
According to John Sterling, possible window @ 9P or possible day/night Saturday …….. or who the heck really knows.
i meant we CANT get doc…obviously.
Rockks
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Wise’s catch was better than Willie Mays’
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No it wasn’t. It’s the same catch that gets made in the Majors once a week.
When are we going to throw another no-hitter?
I’m sick of all these other teams/pitchers getting no hitters while we don’t.
if Wang is gone for the year the best alternative is to put Aceves in the rotation, they can build him up while Joba is winding down in mid to late August. Who would you rather have on the mound in the first inning, Ace or a relative newcomer to the Yankees, particularly when you have Joba, Hughes, and Coke, each of whom can pitch multiple innings, all sitting in the ‘pen?
“When are we going to throw another no-hitter?
I’m sick of all these other teams/pitchers getting no hitters while we don’t.”
When one of our pitchers decides to pitch out of his mind again
I think Burnett might do it during his contract.
“Bring up Andrew Brackman to replace Joba once he reaches his innings limits. Brackman is on the 40 man so we won’t need to make a move.”
ummm…yeah…thats not happening…at all..
lol, listening to Cash. He’s the master of saying nothing. The difference here, is that he’s not using a thousand words to do it.
He’s so cagey.
ramey-
my advice on what to do about your out of the closet red sox girl friend is to ask gb7 for advice.
for one thing he’s really old… and wise being a great grandfather and all.
plus he’s had the kind of combat experience you might need if this just turns out to be the tip of the iceberg.
They just said on YES the game is most likely delayed but “there’s a window when they can start”. Sounds like it’s going to be one of those 6 hour games with multiple delays that goes until 2am.
Perhaps moving Joba to the pen when he reaches his limit and shifting Phil back to the rotation makes the most sense. If he performs well, then Phil is the 4th starter in the playoffs. If not, then… hmmm… Mitre?
I personally hope they can get enough breathing room to skip Joba 3-4 times to avoid the Joba to the pen fiasco. CMW and IPK’s injuries really do hurt.
YES says there’s a window. Wonder what radar they’re looking at.
Can you imagine Brackman pitching to patient ML hitters?
His line -
0.1 IP, 6 H, 11 ER, 7 BB.
cliff lee wouldnt cost any current major league talent, and we wouldnt have to sign him to an extension because he doesnt have anything like a no trade clause.
lee would cost something like jackson, romine, mcallister, melancon…
romine would be tough to trade. jackson also would be tough to trade because of next year’s outfield situation, but you need to trade something to get something.
Just came online and it might have been posted but click here to see the miracle 9th inning catch of DeWayne Wise, a late inning defensive substitution, to preserve the perfect game of Mark Buehrle[spelled correctly]. A right handed CF’er might not have been able to make this play!! Most incredible 9th inning play to preserve a perfect game that I’ve ever seen.
http://deadspin.com/5321454/th.....rfect-game
im usually not into “awwwwww” moments but to hear that Tex held the little 4 year old boy’s hand the whole 90 minutes of the tour was just tooo cute…
There is a very small window to START a game. Its going to get pretty messy tho.
Ramey -
Do not make any rash decisions. Obviously she liked you – she didn’t want her “fandome” to make a relationship with you a no-go. Perhaps she now feels comfortable enough with you to “come out.”
Sit down and talk to HER. This is the last place to get relationship advice.
But, I will say, how do you feel about her, Red Sox fandome aside? How has your relationship been going lately.
TALK TO HER!!
YES Kim Jones Clubhouse Report:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/630755500c8dc384/
“He’s so cagey.”
i’d like to put him in a cage
“YES says there’s a window”
Where? I just see a wall of rain on the radar.
“TALK TO HER!!”
unless there’s a game.
that will set a bad precedent
Michael Kay was saying on his radio show that he took today off so he’d only have to work 3 games this weekend. He thinks there will be a rainout and he was saying he’ll now have to work 4 games.
All this HOPE week stuff is getting to me so much.
mlbtraderumors.com
According to Sean McAdam at the Boston Herald, the Red Sox have been “very aggressive” in their pursuit of Adrian Gonzalez from the Padres, but their offers have been “rebuffed.”
The Adam LaRoche acquisition may have just been one domino falling before a major acquisition, McAdam notes, as the Sox have been spending the final week before the trade deadline to hunt for an impact bat. Their interest in Victor Martinez is well-known, but a source tells McAdam the cost for Martinez has been “prohibitive.” McAdam also says that if another deal is in the works, it will be for a player “that can upgrade the Sox not only this year, but for several seasons to come.”
The Padres haven’t formally put Gonzalez on the trading block, and indications are that the first baseman is staying put.
“This is the last place to get relationship advice.”
As if! I think this would be worse: http://tinyurl.com/ytng9v
Doreen
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Ramey -
Do not make any rash decisions. Obviously she liked you – she didn’t want her “fandome” to make a relationship with you a no-go. Perhaps she now feels comfortable enough with you to “come out.”
Sit down and talk to HER. This is the last place to get relationship advice.
But, I will say, how do you feel about her, Red Sox fandome aside? How has your relationship been going lately.
TALK TO HER!!
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Doreen,
You are a riot. I mean it in the nicest of ways. Are you a therapist? You’d make a very empathetic one, I think
>All this HOPE week stuff is getting to me so much.
I HOPE the Yanks set the precedent around the league.
I also HOPE that they do this forever.
It’s really, really special.
I appreciate the Yankees more for it.
Interesting from Heyman twitter
Rays scouting angels system. Angels interested in Kazmir. Moving $ could lead to Halladay, Lee or V-Mart.
Padres will not trade Agon he only makes 4mil a year.
Rumors and only Rumors:
Halladay has given the teams he’d accept a trade to, but no-one really knows whose on the list. The Phillies are not opposed to dealing Drabek. Halladay wants to test FA market after contract up in 2010. Rios is not part of the deal, but players like Scutaro, Frasor, Downs or Tallet could be included in an expanded deal. My guess he’s traded to the Phillies.
Boston: Just because Adam LaRoche was gotten from Pittsburgh for essentially nothing, he might be used in a spinoff deal to obtain a top-notch 1st baseman-Adrian Gonzalez??
Holliday: If a team is willing to take on his salary, the cost might not be prohibitive in talent given up. He might pass thru waivers and be dealt in August. Rumor has Cardinals interested and would be giving up Brett Wallace, a 3rd base prospect. Holliday, a Boras client will most certainly test FA. Oakland needs infield position players.
Washburn: IMO will be an August deal as he will be put on waivers, as soon as the Mariners realize thy are out of it. They don’t have enough offense to challenge.
Thoughts??
Where’s the “all of the above” option in that text poll??????
The Rockies got Betancourt for a Single-A pitcher. Geez that’s a steal. Betancourt is not what he once was but he still has a 3.52 ERA and more K’s than innings pitched.
There is a window but it’s between 11-12 midnight.
odd factoid: the home plate umpire for Buehrle’s perfect game today was Eric Cooper. Eric Cooper was also the home plate ump for his no-hitter in 2007.
And NO, I’m not intimating that Eric Cooper was giving him the benefit of the calls or in any way affecting the outcome of the game.
Angels want to buy low on Kazmir? Interesting.
The Rockies got Betancourt for a Single-A pitcher. Geez that’s a steal. Betancourt is not what he once was but he still has a 3.52 ERA and more K’s than innings pitched.
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Not to mention he’s deadly against righties with a .179 BA against and only 4 walks in 18.2 innings against righties.
Good work on that one XYZ deff makes you think tho.
bodhi -
I just hope I’m not too late. I’ve been on and off the computer all day. I noticed Ramey probably left before I posted.
No, I’m not a therapist. But it seemed like the whole situation was taking on a life of its own without the girl even being part of it. Maybe it was her way of trying to break it up, maybe it was a leap of faith. But that shouldn’t be decided here. I hope he talks to her. I really do. Then however it ends, whether they stay together or not, it will be an honest ending.
You guys are great here, and for subway advice and practical stuff, you’re the best. But for relationship advice to someone you’ve never met, no way!!!! No offense intended.
I would not put Aceves back in the rotation…….
Last I heard, Phillies will not agree to include Drabek in any Halladay deal – and I don’t blame them. They are winning the division comfortably and have as good as shot as anyone in the NL to make it to the WS.
GB, IMO, the Yankees absolutely need another starter. They can’t wait and wait and wait to see how Joba and Andy do – the trade deadline is approaching.
MG, Joba pitching as poorly has he has recently (1 game aside) doesn’t inspire much confidence that he’s all of a sudden going to find his command and his mojo in the pen. Also, Cash has said that Joba can’t warm up quickly anymore. I’m inclined to think Joba will have some starts skipped rather than being sent to the pen
I think it all comes down to the money.
It was always about money – except for us fans – but with the economy impacting discretionary spending of fans, especially casual fans, it is even more about the money. Heck, the perception within the industry about the importance on money is such that Cash got Pittsburgh to pay half of Eric Hinske’s remaining salary. Think about that – the NY Yankees got Pittsburgh to send us money. And the Pirates thought that getting the Yankees to pick up half of it was good.
So, all these projected deals don’t depend so much on the talent, though that’s got a value to the GMs, but to the financial impact of the players, and the effect on payroll. Remember, most, if not all other teams, do not have the resources of the Yanks. Dollars do matter.
Besides Olney irritating me with his no-no nonsense, he’s also bugging me as he single-handedly is trying to force this Halladay to the Phillies trade. Really, you could make 8 reasons why it could work with the Yankees or the Red Sox, etc.:
12:28pm: ESPN.com’s Buster Olney lists eight reasons why a Halladay trade could work for the Jays and Phillies. Halladay’s value is arguably at its highest now and with him, the Phillies could build a legacy of winning.
Subway advice!?!?!
Oh my goodness gracious.
The yanks could make a trade for a bullpen arm if they cant get a starter. Then you could use Aceves as the 6th starter or spot starter if injury occurs and you would not really take a hit in the bullpen.
Girardi says it will take Hughes 25 days to get stretched out. And the way Hughes has been pitching from the pen that would be dumb to take him out of the bullpen.
MLBTradeRumors just posted that the Rays may be willing to include Kazmir with deals for Holiday or Lee.
It just stopped raining in South Jersey..
im on vacation in LBI (NJ) and the rain is definately lessening up. It has literally rained since 8 am.
why http://www.channelsurfing.net/ isnt working? anyone knows?
Game will start at 8:15 mark my words.
got the inside info on this
Kazmir seems to be hurt every season. Good pitcher, but all those injuries could mean a short career.
Rebecca –
I just watched that video you embedded on facebook. Wow. All the grey-haired ladies at my wedding would have fainted!!!!
ajax 1 for 1 with a single…still batting .320 (106 hits)
“It just stopped raining in South Jersey..”
Let’s move the game to Cape May, I’m jonesing for some Yankee baseball here.
Yankee Trader .
If I were a Padres fan and if A Gonzo got traded . i’d be wicked upset. At some point you have to keep a stud on your team. Plus he’s on the cheap.
doreen-
i think ramey knows the advice is tongue in cheek.
it is kind of funny if you think about it.
i once had a long time girlfriend in florida who was a die hard red sox fan from MA , and things were fine until the yankees and the red sox were in a playoff series and she sat in my lucky recliner when i got up to get some ice cream during a game.
in the scramble for the chair( she was a very athletic tennis pro), i think the seeds for the beginning of the end were planted. it was nip and tuck , but i finally got it back. but not before she got a few runs for the red sox in it.
things were just never the same after that
“So unless you want Kei Igawa taking the hill … ”
Pete – Are you threatening us? =D
Pete,
Have you thought of putting a weather widget for the Bronx on your homepage? Here’s one: http://www.yourminis.com/minis.....keeStadium
We have found Our “Dear Abby” in Doreen – good to have that.
Listening to Michael Kay on the way home was UNBEARABLE. They had Brandon Tierney, Kay and Steve Phillips talking about Joba and Hughes.
Tierney says Hughes needs to stay in the bullpen because he’s the successor for Mo.
Kay said that finding a successor for Mo is premature because Mo is still amazing. However he also agreed that they shouldn’t take Hughes out of the bullpen next year.
Phillips said that they have enough pitching and that since we’ve seen Phil succeed in the pen he should stay there.
It was the most infuriating thing ever. They were all saying how Hughes needs to stay in the bullpen and how important the “bridge to Mo” is.
I changed the channel and listened to commercials instead.
Good for Trenton.
Wonder how the Mets’ MiL affiliates are doing….
I’m not saying Adrian Gonzalez isn’t a great power hitter, but so far in ’09 he’s batting .249. He’s not exactly Albert Pujols.
If they do have to rain out the game and have a dh. They should skip Sabathia. I rather have Kei Igawa face the oakland then have Sabathia face the Oakland and miss pitching game 1 of the series with the rays.
Montero finished the Trenton game, 1-4. Nothing special.
Chris Smith, the Compton wunderkind and playing left field for Tampa of the GCL, was 1-4 with his first hit of the year being a home run.
Patrick ProspectHugger
If you can tell me that Hughes wont go back to throwing a pedestrian 91mph Fastball with little to no movement than I’ll agree that they should move him back to being a starter but if he’s only going to be a number 3 starter for his career than I’d rather have him as a lights out reliever and…sure if that means Mo’s successor GREAT?
This all hypothetical and dependent on him continuing to be absolutely unhittable out of the pen of course.
randy l -
I worry. i try not to, but I’m a worrier. I put off worrying, sometimes, but it always sneaks up on me at the strangest times. Can’t help it.
Uncle E –
NOOOO! No, I’m not Dear Abby.
Patrick -
I listened in the prior hour when they were discussing the Mets and their problems and they all sounded very reasonable (Michael Kay and his “round table”). I think they’re wrong about Phil AND Joba – I think they show no imagination, no creativity and are very limited if not totally devoid of vision. I also realize that as a Yankee fan I am hypersensitive to opinions about the Yankees that disagree with my own.
“He’s not exactly Albert Pujols.”
There is only one Pujols, you can’t measure anyone against him as he’s the best hitter in the league by far.
Gonzalez is very very very good. Kind of a classic slugging first baseman. Lower average but massive power and a ton of walks.
Joba Chamberlain doesn’t struggle, he keeps his inning-count down.
Stranger
If Albert had Kevin Kouzmanoff batting behind him Albert would have to swing at some REALLY awful pitches to or just be put on base four times a game.
What would be wrong with Phil Hughes being a solid #3 in the New York Yankees starting rotation????????
m
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
You guys know why it’s raining, right?
Erica took her raincoat to Philly.
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Umm… No. Is there another Erica on here with a butterfly raincoat?? I am still definitely on Long Island. Although, I did leave the butterflies home today :angry:
Is that Dibble on MLB – the Cards v. Nats game?
Betsy is in Philly
m
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Betsy,
Oops. I got my people mixed up.
Erica was actually working yesterday, and telling us about the mean mets fan in the next cubicle.
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She wasn’t mean or grouchy. She was ANNOYING
She didn’t appreciate having to listen to the last two innings of Buerle’s perfecto today either, but well… I don’t care
What Cashman needs to do during the offseason is acquire at least one arm and perhaps two very good arms for the bullpen so they are not forced to use two starters in the pen next season when they are already thin in the rotation.
Doreen
Well that depends would he be a lights out closer for 15 years like Mo?
And no…not EXACTLY “Like” Mo (There will never be another Mo)
It’s an interesting choice but I’d rather somebody be FANTASTIC at something than just okay i guess.
If Phil can be a top 5 Closer for 15 yrs (Pretty tough assumption if we are indeed making it)
I think I’d rather have him do what he’s best at.
just got here…dont kno if anyone asked this already but why would a double header require finding a starter…would they just be skipping sabathia or something?
Giuseppe -
Wouldn’t it be something if you just get “arms” without the requisite “head cases?”
(j/k)
“What would be wrong with Phil Hughes being a solid #3 in the New York Yankees starting rotation????????”
Have you seen him out of the pen lately? Why mess with that?
The only thing disappointing about Buerhle’s perfect game today is having to listen to that jackass homer Hawk Harrelson call it – I can’t think of a bigger loser on TV or the radio.
You can put THIS on the board, moron.
“The Yankees are 44-22 since Rodriguez was activated off the disabled list.”
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MVP??
Hughes needs to be a starter.
If this game gets rained out, I wonder if Girardi would consider skipping Joba. Keeping him in the rotation would be ideal.
Hughes is a starter.
A #3 in your starting rotation is more valuable than a set-up man.
That being said, Phil Hughes is NOT a #3 starter. His velocity will drop when he rejoins the rotation but he’ll most likely sit 91-94 and touch 95-96 when needed.
With the movement he puts on his pitches and pinpoint control he’ll be fine. His curve is ridiculous, change and cutter need some work.
Also, don’t forget, he’s the FIFTH starter next year. We aren’t counting on him for 20 wins and 200 innings. I would put money on him being a very good fifth starter next year.
By the way, I think this innings limit thing with Joba is way overblown. I can see him going 150-160 IP this year. Girardi just has to be careful and skip him once in awhile. I could see him pitching in the rotation for the rest of the year and the playoffs.
Doreen-
I understand your advice to Ramey that he shouldn’t be rash. To me it’s not so much about her being a Red Sox fan, but she lied about it. Isn’t honesty everything??
For me to lie about being a Yankee fan, I would have to basically lie about everything fundamental about myself. To carry on a lie like that would make me a sociopath
Radar Gun Mafia -
Like Joba, he deserves a real shot at starting before he’s written off as the EIG, the bridge to Mo and heir apparent. Obviously, it surely wouldn’t be the worst thing to happen to him if he had Mo’s career and similar success. What I really objected to is the idea that a #3 starter is something to sneeze at. On the Yankees, a #3 can be anything from a #1-type guy who happens to pitch 3rd in the order to a typical #3.
These are situations that will take care of themselves in time.
If there is a doubleheader, we can have a serious two-for-one on “Guess the Line Up”
Listening to Michael Kay on the way home was UNBEARABLE. They had Brandon Tierney, Kay and Steve Phillips talking about Joba and Hughes.
Tierney says Hughes needs to stay in the bullpen because he’s the successor for Mo.
Kay said that finding a successor for Mo is premature because Mo is still amazing. However he also agreed that they shouldn’t take Hughes out of the bullpen next year.
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I was listening to some of that round table from hell discussion and I heard Steve Phillips saying that Ian Kennedy was the reason Cashman didn’t make the trade for Santana and look at Kennedy now. Something along those lines.
Yeah, Ian Kennedy was holding Cashman back from making the trade for Santana.
I immediately turned it over to Z100.
Just looked at the radar: http://www.weather.com/outlook.....ayer=radar
Looks the rain is moving northeast, so hopefully it happens soon.
Giuseppe Franco
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
What Cashman needs to do during the offseason is acquire at least one arm and perhaps two very good arms for the bullpen so they are not forced to use two starters in the pen next season when they are already thin in the rotation.
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Cashman mistakes in the offseason was he gave Marte a 3 year deal after being awful for the yanks. He relied too much on journey men pitchers like Edwar Rameriez and Jose Veras. Besides Mo I think the only two pitchers that are in the bullpen right now that came out of spring training is Bruney and Coke. The yanks had great starting depth coming out of spring training.
He needs to trade for a legitimate setup pitcher in the offseason like a Huston Street so he can stop putting the teams future starters in that role. And let Chamberlain and Hughes devolop as starters without having people yell about putting them in the bullpen because there is no bridge to Mo.
GOD WHY are we subjected to this nonsense about Hughes/Joba in the bullpen? I knew this crap would happen when Cashman decided to put Phil in the pen. Anyone that thinks an 8th inning guy or a closer is more important than a starting pitcher is stupid. It’s that simple.
Youuse is a starter
“By the way, I think this innings limit thing with Joba is way overblown. I can see him going 150-160 IP this year.”
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Joba is on pace for 165IP.
If they can skip/rest him just a few times, he should be fine.
On issue is that even though his IP are low, the more important stat – pitches – is still high.
But since they are using IP as the metric, he should be ok to go the full season as a starter.
Erica -
But she did volunteer the truth. So, I’d give her a chance to ‘splain. Lying’s not a good way to start a relationship, but if people are compatible in every way but who they root for (though Sox v. Yanks IS extreme), perhaps it can be worked out. She knew he was a Yankee fan and didn’t summarily dismiss him. Maybe she was trying to make sure he knew more about her so he didn’t summarily dismiss her.
Or, she could be a lying, conniving you-know-what who couldn’t wait to spring the information, in which case, good riddance.
Doreen
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
These are situations that will take care of themselves in time.”
I concur
@ S.A.–Serenity Now
Phillips is a moron Kennedy had an aneurysm and needed surgeory. Cashman cant look at a crystal ball to see that. Kennedy was pitching well at Scranton if he was healthy he probably would of gotten called up instead of Mitre to be the 5th starter.
Ramey,
I’ve had more than one relationship ruined because the chick (apologies if “chick” is offensive
) was a Sox fan.
way to stick to your Yankee guns…
Can someone explain to me why Kei Igawa is needed for a double header?
If the Yanks play a double header lets say tomorrow they can just have Sabathia and Chamberlain pitch. I don’t see the issue here, is there something I’m missing?
Betsy
Francesa is a Yankee fan. He expresses his opinion which is part of his show. He doesn’t have to love everything about the Yankees.
If you listened to him the other day, he was praising the glove work of Tex for quite a while.
Erica -
Just for the record, I couldn’t pretend to be something I wasn’t either, and it sounds like it was for a while. She either really, really likes him or has a sadistic sense of humor.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
“Anyone that thinks an 8th inning guy or a closer is more important than a starting pitcher is stupid. It’s that simple.”
So why can’t we trade Mariano Rivera for Jarrod Washburn?
Now who’s stupid?
Totally agree 77513
Weather looks good from around 12 AM on… I bet that start the game sometime around midnight.
The reason Phil’s velo has gone up is not just the move to the pen, it’s because he’s finally been healthy and able to pitch for several months in a row. Down the stretch in 2006 Phil showed the same velo as a starter he’s showing now as a reliever.
Doreen-
I vote for sadistic. I can understand lying just to get your foot in the door. But to let it go on since January??? That is extreme. He obviously likes her so why not be up front sooner?
I gather listening to that MLB roundtable for an hour would have given you the same result if you had been sniffing paint thinner in the garage for the same amount of time.
Nothing but killing brain cells.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger July 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Can someone explain to me why Kei Igawa is needed for a double header?
If the Yanks play a double header lets say tomorrow they can just have Sabathia and Chamberlain pitch. I don’t see the issue here, is there something I’m missing?
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Because they don’t have any off days anytime soon and someone would otherwise be forced to pitch on short rest (Burnett?).
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Can someone explain to me why Kei Igawa is needed for a double header?
If the Yanks play a double header lets say tomorrow they can just have Sabathia and Chamberlain pitch. I don’t see the issue here, is there something I’m missing?
Yes if they pitch 2 starters on one you wont be able to start both of them again on normal rest.
I’m watching the Catfish Hunter Yankeeography, I didn’t realize how young he was when he died
By the way, you think it’s a coincidence he had to retire at age 33 considering the number of innings he threw? 273, 295, 256, 318, 328, 298
That’s absurd. People always talk about how much these guys back in the day threw but forget about those who’s careers are shortened or who never even have careers.
Obviously this is only one case but pitch counts and innings limits do work. Why else would teams be so concerned about it if they didn’t?
If Kazmir is available, I’ll be all over that
McAllister, Jackson, and Gardner for Kazmir
What’s going on with Ramey? Dating a red sox fan? Just make sure the children are raised as yankee fans.
Because they don’t have any off days anytime soon and someone would otherwise be forced to pitch on short rest (Burnett?).
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Oops. That’s supposed to be Sabathia – not Burnett.
rain rain go away :/
“So why can’t we trade Mariano Rivera for Jarrod Washburn?”
Well mainly because Mo has a no-trade clause.
Rivera is on a different level compared to other closers and he’s a Yankee legend.
Maybe if you told me I could trade Rivera for Tim Lincecum, no doubt in my mind I make that trade.
Erica -
The only thing is, we don’t know if she was agonizing over the lie. You know, calling her girlfriends and asking advice on what to say, or whether to tell, or when to tell. Once you tell a lie about yourself it’s awfully difficult to come clean about it – to pick the right time (there’s never a right time). That’s why it’s best he talk to her. It may have started out innocent and then she couldn’t easily dig out of the hole. For instance, what if she misjudged just how HUGE a fan Ramey is? And once she realized he wasn’t a casual Yankee fan, she realized she stepped in it?
Human beings can be very complicated. And I tend to overthink things. So…
“Because they don’t have any off days anytime soon and someone would otherwise be forced to pitch on short rest (Burnett?).”
Thanks GF, I wasn’t thinking of the next turn in the rotation. They could handle pitching Sabathia on short rest. It’s gotta be better than Igawa.
If the Yanks play a double header lets say tomorrow they can just have Sabathia and Chamberlain pitch. I don’t see the issue here, is there something I’m missing?
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The problem comes after the DB. It will throw off the remaining pitching schedule, as everyone will have to be pushed back, pitch on extra rest, etc.
If the game gets rained out then it would be
Friday – CC/Joba
Sat – Pettitte
Sun – Mitre
Monday – AJ
Tuesday – ???
Wednesday – Joba
“If Kazmir is available, I’ll be all over that
McAllister, Jackson, and Gardner for Kazmir”
the dude is damaged goods…big drop in velocity and has a near 7 era…no thanks…but if he was healthy…
“But she did volunteer the truth. So, I’d give her a chance to ’splain.”
That’s like saying, “Baby I know I cheated but at least I am man enough to tell you.”
The Radar Gun Mafia
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
“Anyone that thinks an 8th inning guy or a closer is more important than a starting pitcher is stupid. It’s that simple.”
So why can’t we trade Mariano Rivera for Jarrod Washburn?
Now who’s stupid?”
LOL
Well played Radar.
You’d think a Yankee fan of all people would certainly know better than to say something that silly.
Billy, you’re dead so stfu
3 Mets poems already on Schmoozer show.
Thanks Rain, thanks a lot.
Ramey- IMO opinion, if a girl is going to lie about the baseball team she roots for over a 6 month period, she probably is going to lie about a crap load of more things. Get rid of her.
Doreen-
You are obviously a much more forgiving person than me. I just don’t tolerate lying. This world is complicted enough without having to waste time sorting through bull from people who say they love you.
Then again- I am not known for my long relationships
SA-
That is the exact reason I do not date Mets fans. My hypothetical children must be Yankee fans!!!
I love how Ramey disappeared two and a half hours ago and we are still talking about his predicament. LOL
Btw- “I cheated on you, but at least I am man enough to admit it”, would totally work on me. I would appreciate the honesty
I can’t wait to come see the new Yankee Stadium this weekend
Kei Igawa
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
I can’t wait to come see the new Yankee Stadium this weekend
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Will you be sitting in the Legends Seats or the Grandstands??
I love how Ramey disappeared two and a half hours ago and we are still talking about his predicament. LOL
Btw- “I cheated on you, but at least I am man enough to admit it”, would totally work on me. I would appreciate the honesty
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I think the conversation took on a life of its own…and then there is the rain.
Real honesty would be staying faithful in the first place. I’d appreciate that the most!
oh i didnt even notice he was gone..
So if there is a rainout, do you think they would actually consider starting Igawa? Dont you think CC could pitch on 4 days rest, as someone else suggested?
1998 yankeeography is on! Wow jeter looks about 12…
That is the exact reason I do not date Mets fans. My hypothetical children must be Yankee fans!!!
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I don’t care if my husband is a Mets(or insert team here) fan, my hypothetical babies are gonna be Yankees fans. I’m not going through all those hypothetical hours of labor for nothing!
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
“So why can’t we trade Mariano Rivera for Jarrod Washburn?”
Well mainly because Mo has a no-trade clause.
Rivera is on a different level compared to other closers and he’s a Yankee legend.
Maybe if you told me I could trade Rivera for Tim Lincecum, no doubt in my mind I make that trade.”
Are you an idiot?
You thought that was a serious question?
My point was a lights out closer is in fact valuable and arguably more valuable than as you put it “A starting pitcher”
Is Phil going to be a top of the rotation 15+ game winner?
Maybe?
Is he going to be a top 5 closer for 15 years?
Maybe?
He’s never even saved a game yet so this is all far to hypothetical anyway.
I just don’t think people should denigrate a possible closer whether it turns out to be Phil or Joba or any other young starting pitcher in the organization.
After all Mariano was in fact a Starting pitcher too once.
Look how that turned out.
on TBS they say Yankees hope for a 9:15 start.
Brackman getting whacked. This is an arm I hang onto, but it’s going to be a l-o-n-g road.
“What’s going on with Ramey? Dating a red sox fan? Just make sure the children are raised as yankee fans.”
good point. you wouldn’t want your wife flipping out when Derek Jeter picks up the kid in front of Starbucks for a photo op.
Isn’t Brackman getting pounded – in A ball?
Man that’s 3-4 years minimum
Ah, the children. The children will confound you. You will have pinstripes in their cribs, dress them in pinstripes, ever allow them to watch a baseball game that isn’t broadcast by YES. You will do all you can – buy the Yankeeography disc set, use it as a babysitter instead of Barney. You’ll talk about all the great Yankee legends and all the stories.
And then one day, they’ll ask you to take them to a Phillies game because they like Cole Hammel. And you will take them to the Phillies game. And all of a sudden you’re a two-team family.
It happens.
I’m late to the Ramey advice party.
My advice….get rid of her immediately. It never works between Yankees and Red Sox fans. Never. Trust me on this.
True story…..
I was once going out with someone who wanted me to go to her family BBQ on the 4th of July to spend time with her parents.
I HATED her parents. The father was a Red Sox fan and he hated me for being a Yankee fan.
I spent 3 days trying to figure out a way to get out of the party.
The day before, my best friend is given 2 tickets to the 4th of July Yankee game. I have my out.
I call her, tell her I’m sick as a dog (fake cough and all), and she says, “I understand, feel better”.
“Feeling better” almost immediately, we get ready for the game.
The game happened to be the Dave Righetti no hitter against the Sox. To this day, the only no hitter I’ve seen in person.
Feeling great, I come back to my apt. to find a note, a nasty one at that, from my GF.
She broke up with me the next day because of my “selfishness” and “immaturity”.
I got to see a no hitter. I figured I was came out ahead on that one!
Radar just smacked you again Patrick!!
LOL
My wife didn’t tell me she was a RS fan (although not a rabid one) until AFTER WE WERE MARRIED. I didn’t take it seriously – after all, her favorite player was Jim Rice (no honey, he retired).
It was OK. That is, until 2004 came along….
My oldest son is a Yankee fan, my youngest acts like a Red Sox fan (mainly for his Mom’s benefit) but is a closet Yankee fan (still a frontrunner).
We went to Fenway last year to see Yanks-Red Sox (of course it had to be the freakin’ Ponson game). My oldest & I dressed in NYY shirts (w/NYG SBXLII hats) and my wife & other son in Red Sox jerseys.
That went over pretty well…:)
Sorry Doreen at least the Phils are in the other league
If you want to know what is more valuable to an organization – starter or reliever – look no further than who are the most coveted guys right now before the trade deadline……….
They are Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, and Jarrod Washburn. It’s not Huston Street, Chad Qualls, or Heath Bell.
Want more proof?
The two highest paid pitchers in baseball are Sabathia (6/$161M) and Santana (6/$137.5M).
The two highest paid closers in baseball are Mo (3/$45M) and K-Rod (3/$36M).
It is indisputable which position is more valuable in this day and age. The enormous disparity in salary as well as the asking price in trade talks don’t even remotely compare.
SJ – That’s a nice story!
He’s only been with her like 6 months right. That’s long enough to get Lil Ramey happy and that’s about it. Not like there is love!
She GONE!
Sj44-
You did the right thing 100%. She obviously just didn’t understand you!!!
Doreen
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Ah, the children. The children will confound you. You will have pinstripes in their cribs, dress them in pinstripes, ever allow them to watch a baseball game that isn’t broadcast by YES. You will do all you can – buy the Yankeeography disc set, use it as a babysitter instead of Barney. You’ll talk about all the great Yankee legends and all the stories.
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Doreen-
Don’t be silly. I will also allow my hypthetical to watch Sesame Street. When I was 3, I announced to my parents I was going to marry Ernie.
Ladies and gentlemen. ways to prevent a problem with your spouse rooting for another team.
1.Have a prenumptual agreement of what your kids will be rooting for.
2.Name your kid Mickey, Babe, Jete etc.. Naturally the kid will like the team.
3.Get your cable company to give you YES so your tv is always set on that channel.
4.Buy him or her a Giambi g string for Valentines. That always works.
How about Jon Garland? He isnt great but he could get the job done and wouldn’t cost much.
“Are you an idiot?”
No, I’m not an idiot actually.
You’re telling me you expect Phil Hughes to be the next Mariano Rivera? That’s why he should stay in the bullpen?
I think that’s highly unlikely.
The fact remains, a starting pitcher is a lot more valuable than a reliever.
“He’s only been with her like 6 months right. That’s long enough to get Lil Ramey happy and that’s about it. Not like there is love!”
People can fall in love in under 6 months
If you really love this girl Ramey, don’t listen to us baseball is a game love is all you need 
L to the 2nd
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Isn’t Brackman getting pounded – in A ball?
Man that’s 3-4 years minimum
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He’s still coming back from TJS. Trying to build arm strength. Probably has a tired arm – in WB he topped out at 100 (still w/control problems), but now his ceiling is 93.
Tonight, he’s walked a few guys – his nemesis – but that’s improved. He is getting hit hard, which ain’t good.
I guess the positive is that he is apparently healthy, and putting up innings. Now news that he’s high risk/high reward.
Brackman back out for the 3rd. (7 R on 6H already).
It hasn’t rained in bergen co in some time.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
“Are you an idiot?”
No, I’m not an idiot actually.
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LOL. Seriously. Patrick TPH, that was the best laugh I had today
Pete – thanks for the Cashman audio. It’s stuff like that, that sets you apart from the rest.
I love the way Cashman protects the highly classified “Joba innings limit” number. No matter how many ways he was asked he wasn’t going there. He’s as bad as George Costanza and his ATM password. Cashman has his own “Bosco”.
Guiseppe
Would Joe Nathan, Francisco Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, Jonathan Papelbon be considered more valuable than Derek Lowe, Jarrod Washburn, Bronson Arroyo or any other “3rd Starter”?
If one of the kids in the organization is just average as a starter but OUTSTANDING as a closer why is it being treated like a crime if he is used as what he is better at?
AND NO THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY APPLY TO PHIL HUGHES OR JOBA
Nice story SJ44
557 comments and the game isn’t even on.
if the game starts tonight, this thread is going to be a pain in the neck to refresh.
The last time I dated a Mets fan, he got mad at me because I insisted YES always remain on. ALWAYS.
Then he got mad at me when he said he wanted to buy me a Mets jersey and I laughed at him. I asked what the Buccholz I would do with a Mets jersey… use it as a cleaning rag? He did not appreciate that
Hughes needs to start. hope Marte/Bru/Mel pick it up so that Phil can work on his change, cfb, 2sfb
Erica- Ouch, take it easy on those mets fans they don’t have much to be excited about
There is no rhyme or reason to lying about sports. As I make my passionate plea Ramey is somewhere hugged up with the enemy.
Andrew Brackman played basketball in college. He’s relatively new to baseball, and doesn’t have a lot of experience pitching. He’s on the 40 man roster because of the ML contract that Scott Boras negotiated, not because of his skill level now. He still needs to learn his craft.
Give him time. Like until 2011 to make any pronouncements.
Bodi is he projecting as some sort of RH Big Unit, with risk?
It’s gonna be another year or two before he gets his arm strength back – but the control issue is another thing
I honestly wish we had a chat… that would be awesome and a lot easier than the constant use of the refresh button.
I hope this game starts early.. We don’t want the A’s to have the west coast time zone advantage.
Maybe she was just using him for sex.
Bruney, Marte and Melancon to head to the pen and put Hughes in the rotation?
I take it you have no interest in making the playoffs.
Thankfully, the Yankees won’t do something that dumb.
Wow -
Clearly I am clueless when it comes to Red Sox/Yankees fandome and love!
BUT i will say I fell in love and knew I would marry my husband almost immediately after starting to date. We were engaged after 9 months, married after 18 months and we’ll be married for 29 years in August. At the time we met he was Yankees, I was Mets.
But I think the thing is there was more to us than that. More things we were interested in together. And things we got from one another – like I was bubblegum top 40 and he was FM and I have left my bubblegum ways behind, for the most part and he loves Broadway as much as I do. I have learned to appreciated college basketball.
So, the moral of the story, I guess, is love conquers all except the dreaded Red Sox/Yankees rivalry.
LOL @ Erica
The last time I dated a Mets fan, he got mad at me because I insisted YES always remain on. ALWAYS.
Then he got mad at me when he said he wanted to buy me a Mets jersey and I laughed at him. I asked what the Buccholz I would do with a Mets jersey… use it as a cleaning rag? He did not appreciate that
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LOL.
I have a sharp sense of humor and I take my love of my teams seriously. If I dated someone who was a rival it would be an issue.
You know all you need in this world to be happy are friends.
Well if you have a big house and friends you can be very happy.
Also a pool, big house and friends and you’ll be happy.
And add a really nice car, a pool, big house and friends, you’ll be very happy.
Oh, if you have a beautiful woman too, nice car, pool, and a big house,hmm——————-You don’t need friends to be happy.
From Latka Gravis[Andy Kaufman] from hit show Taxi.
So what’s the moral of the story? If the Yankees win the WS and you win the lottery, you don’t need no “stinkin” friends to be happy!!!
Joe from Long Island
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Andrew Brackman played basketball in college. He’s relatively new to baseball, and doesn’t have a lot of experience pitching. He’s on the 40 man roster because of the ML contract that Scott Boras negotiated, not because of his skill level now. He still needs to learn his craft.
Give him time. Like until 2011 to make any pronouncements.
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Not only still learning, but coming back from surgery, & he’s not only a project because he came to baseball late and had TJ, but also because of his height/delivery issues. It’s always good news with this kid that he’s still pitching.
My father-in-law was a Red Sox fan. I had to make it look like an aciident!
Just kidding- about him being a Red Sox fan!
if the game is rained out tonight they will just move the rotation back. I doubt the double header will be Friday, Saturday is much more likely. If it means bringing up an emergency starter for the extra game they will. They are 2 games in 1st place and 5 ahead in the wild card, there is no reason to pitch anyone on short rest this early in the season and no reason to make any major changes (see Gene Mauch, Phillies, 1964 and Charlie Dressen, Dodgers, 1951, if you want to know why and what happens).
Oops, that would be accident.
SJ44 is the worst
He claims he didn’t know she was a Papelbum/Sox fan – I say the Riverdance posters all over her bedroom should have be a dead giveaway.
My cousin is a Red Sox/Patriots fan. Last year, I officiated his wedding. Ultimately, love is the most important thing.
I did make a Belichick joke during the ceremony, however… but it was subtle.
Yankee Trader
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
You know all you need in this world to be happy are friends.
Well if you have a big house and friends you can be very happy.
Also a pool, big house and friends and you’ll be happy.
And add a really nice car, a pool, big house and friends, you’ll be very happy.
Oh, if you have a beautiful woman too, nice car, pool, and a big house,hmm——————-You don’t need friends to be happy.
From Latka Gravis[Andy Kaufman] from hit show Taxi.
So what’s the moral of the story? If the Yankees win the WS and you win the lottery, you don’t need no “stinkin” friends to be happy!!!
tank you berry much
sj44-
i had the good fortune to come down to cape cod that july 4th weekend with two of my teammates on a semi pro team from the umass area . naturally they were die hard red sox fans and i think the night before the red sox won on a yaz hit and they were razzing me all night about it.
we were at a beach bar called the beachcomber the next day sitting on the car overlooking the beach and listening as the no hitter progressed. i remember it as if it were still happening. my friend really had a rough time that weekend. he met his future ex wife too.
i had the good fortune many years later to have dinner with rhighetti when invited by neil allen to come along when he was catching upon old times with rhighetti in sarasota. the highlight of the discussion was not talk of the no hitter, but neil telling the story of the whole bullpen getting together and putting itching powder on the bullpen toilet rhighetti retired to every game like clockwork before he warmed up.
when rhighetti went into the game and he started sweating the itching powder was activated. he struck out the side as fast as he could and raced off the mound saying nothing to anyone and raced directly into he shower with his uniform on cursing his bullpen mates as they were laughing like hyenas.
i think it took a long time for it to be funny to him.
“I did make a Belichick joke during the ceremony, however… but it was subtle.”
You brought up cheating during the wedding?
Doreen July 23rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Wow -
Clearly I am clueless when it comes to Red Sox/Yankees fandome and love!
BUT i will say I fell in love and knew I would marry my husband almost immediately after starting to date. We were engaged after 9 months, married after 18 months and we’ll be married for 29 years in August. At the time we met he was Yankees, I was Mets.
But I think the thing is there was more to us than that. More things we were interested in together. And things we got from one another – like I was bubblegum top 40 and he was FM and I have left my bubblegum ways behind, for the most part and he loves Broadway as much as I do. I have learned to appreciated college basketball.
So, the moral of the story, I guess, is love conquers all except the dreaded Red Sox/Yankees rivalry.
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Great story Doreen. Let’s hear it for love!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0U5JfGYx4c
Billy Mays RIP July 23rd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Guiseppe
Would Joe Nathan, Francisco Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, Jonathan Papelbon be considered more valuable than Derek Lowe, Jarrod Washburn, Bronson Arroyo or any other “3rd Starter”?
If one of the kids in the organization is just average as a starter but OUTSTANDING as a closer why is it being treated like a crime if he is used as what he is better at?
AND NO THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY APPLY TO PHIL HUGHES OR JOBA
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A typical #3 starter make more money than most closers. That should give you an idea what organizations feel is more valuable.
You can’t win without decent starting pitching. The Tribe in 2007 went to the ALCS with Joe Borowski and his 4.00+ ERA as the closer.
Worry about replacing Mo when Mo decides to retire and there’s nothing written in stone that says he’s retiring after the 2010 season.
They are going to need both Hughes and Joba in the rotation next season. Cashman will have to get someone else to fill the setup role.
Smart organizations don’t take their best arms (which Joba and Hughes would most definitely qualify) and stick them in the bullpen for good without making sure they cannot handle being a starter. That’s asinine. Nobody does that.
Starters are too hard to develop and too expensive on the open market to limit their (Hughes and Joba) ceilings like that.
Wang = Pavano?
The media loves Buchholz over Joba. The amount of media bias for the Sawx is ridiculous.
Especially Keith Law. He claims to be impartial but he lives in Mass and never has a bad thing to say about the Red Sox or their prospects. He will barely acknowledge Montero’s potential.
Steve Phillips, Gammon and the rest of ESPN are all Sox fans. (eyeroll)
Bru/Marte/Mel have to prove themselves first before PH can get more innings in, obv
jayhi
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Wang = Pavano?
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No way, Wang won 19 twice, Pavano pitched barely 19 games
“I did make a Belichick joke during the ceremony, however… but it was subtle.”
You brought up cheating during the wedding?
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dt,
I thought Nick meant that he brought up privately video taping and tripod.
Yes, DT. It wasn’t a conventional ceremony. But the context of the joke wouldn’t lead anyone to infer it was about marital cheating.
jayhi
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Wang = Pavano?
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no Wang won 19 games twice
L to the 2nd
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Bodi is he projecting as some sort of RH Big Unit, with risk?
It’s gonna be another year or two before he gets his arm strength back – but the control issue is another thing
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Well, if it oneday all comes together. Kid’s got 2 CBs, sinker, and a high 90s heater can go a long way. I understand he’s also developing a change.
Like Betances, he’s got big guy issues with mechanics, repeating his delivery, etc. He has to work on this relentlessly. He was pitching well in May, and it’s gone south, but I’m guessing it’s a tired arm. The good news is, his elbow hasn’t given him any trouble.
Jesus Montero…Cool name but he’s not gonna be a catcher and I’m not sure his bat translates at the major league level blah blah
LOL
I hate KLAW
“The media loves Buchholz over Joba. The amount of media bias for the Sawx is ridiculous.
Especially Keith Law. He claims to be impartial but he lives in Mass and never has a bad thing to say about the Red Sox or their prospects. He will barely acknowledge Montero’s potential.
Steve Phillips, Gammon and the rest of ESPN are all Sox fans. (eyeroll)”
I usually find Law to be fair, and the whole Boston media darling thing is a bit played out. However to regain our seat at the top these Yankees need to beat those Sawks then maybe we can be mentioned ahead of them until then the media will just remember us for blowing it in 2004 which was basically the last time we were relevant in terms of a serious championship contender.
Wang = Pavano?
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Exciting perfect game today – that catch by Wise was really great. Hope the game gets played today. I love watching CC pitch.
Good discussion on Joba and innings limitation. If the innings limitation was imposed by Mgmt. can’t they likewise, change their minds? Love that Phil has been saying nice things about Joba lately. Now if everyone else could also it would be a great week in YankeeLand.
Randy,
Great story! lol
Forget Bruney, Marte and Melancon proving themselves. There are only 70 games remaining in the season. They don’t have any time to waste looking to remake the bullpen again.
Right now, the bullpen is a strength as is. There is no reason to change it and they won’t change it.
They will hunt around and look for a starter. If they find one, I have no doubt they will pull the trigger.
The Yankees are doing what they always do around the trade deadline. Lay in the weeds and are ready to strike if something makes sense.
“Yes, DT. It wasn’t a conventional ceremony. But the context of the joke wouldn’t lead anyone to infer it was about marital cheating”
I figured so. Either that or the groom was wearing a hoodie…
What are the chances that the yankees are going to get this game in?
no fun for the fans that are at the ballpark still and wait it out, ‘dampens the experience’…lots of rain in the Bronx this summer
When has Wang ever had as much success as Pavano?
Wang has 2 good seasons. Even the worst pitchers in baseball history managed to have a couple of good seasons. Wang is the RH version of Harico Ramirez– good sinker, nothing else.
Pavano has a WS ring and has been a successful pitcher in the league for over a decade. Yeah, he might be injury prone but he has much more sustained dominance than Wang.
“You brought up cheating during the wedding?”
I figured he made them vow not to ever wear sweatshirts with the sleeves cut off like some kind of bum.
DT: as part of the ceremony I walked into the crowd and visited with a few pre-chosen wedding guests, including one of the groom’s best pals from Boston. I asked him if he was a Pats fan and then said “that explains why I saw you videotaping the rehearsal yesterday.”
It got a moderate laugh.
Pavano has a WS ring and has been a successful pitcher in the league for over a decade. Yeah, he might be injury prone but he has much more sustained dominance than Wang.
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LOL. I almost spit my drink all over my monitor when I read that.
i had tickets, even if they do play, i think i made the right call by staying home in CT….
So is there gonna be a game tonight?
Wow you can tell its a rain delay by the comments in here.
I feel bad for Ramey, everyone feels they need to give their opinion. Its actually his fault by bringing it up on the blog anyway.
I’m not going to give mine because frankly it doesn’t matter, just like none of your opinions matter. But honestly, the last place I’d look for relationship advice is on a Yankees blog.
I’m hearing something like a 9:30 first pitch. Anyone else hear the same?
“A successful ML pitcher for over a decade”? That’s not Carl Pavano.
Even his family members wouldn’t say he has had a “successful ML career for over a decade”.
I have tickets and I couldn’t go because of work, but i just got off and i may want to head down to the stadium if there is a game going on
“the last place I’d look for relationship advice is on a Yankees blog.”
Why do people keep saying that???? Are you not aware that Red Sox fans have blogs too??????
“Even the worst pitchers in baseball history managed to have a couple of good seasons”
Huh?
Pavano: has successfully cashed major league paychecks for over a decade?
ransom is next to be DFA’d, then I can finally retire this name.
Yikes Ramey, thats quite the name you’ve got going tonight.
Guess I need to read back in the thread to find out what thats all about huh?
“I’m not going to give mine because frankly it doesn’t matter, just like none of your opinions matter. But honestly, the last place I’d look for relationship advice is on a Yankees blog.”
i’m not sure it’s the best place for baseball advice either
ransom sucks: you should retire from life. maybe you can jump off a building? would save us all the trouble of seeing your posts.
Ian’s post made me giggle
Nick just keeps bringing it…..
That’s the type of guy I’d love to have officiating my wedding. That Belicheck joke was gold, but I can understand only getting some laughs. Some people probably had no clue what he was talking about. Others were probably shocked to hear that joke in the middle of a wedding.
So umm where is this window that they said?
Ian
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
When has Wang ever had as much success as Pavano?
Wang has 2 good seasons. Even the worst pitchers in baseball history managed to have a couple of good seasons. Wang is the RH version of Harico Ramirez– good sinker, nothing else.
Pavano has a WS ring and has been a successful pitcher in the league for over a decade. Yeah, he might be injury prone but he has much more sustained dominance than Wang.
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Hi Carl! Hows life in Cleveland?
“So umm where is this window that they said?”
The window at the concession stand when they take your money and lie about a game they have no shot of playing.
Since May 13th Brett Gardner is hitting .315 with 3 HR, 15 RBI, and 25 runs scored.
Gardner is also hitting 262 with a 354 obp against leftys.
The radar says mid-night it will clear out.
Thats a long time to be still married to the same person these days, Doreen. Congrats on almost 29 years together.
My parents have been married nearly 40 years.
LOL. Decision by 9.
“It got a moderate laugh.”
Nick – Boston area crowds are tough….
at times you’ll get some moderate booing, hissing and snake heckling as well.
wait – you officiated the wedding? You aren’t Father Nick are ya? Did you have to call offsides and delay of wedding penalties?
It’s only 6:00 here in the West. Play the damn game!
LLIME,
really? i mean really? wang was the best pitcher in the league for 2 and a half years, winning 46 games. pavano had one good season with the marlins then stole 40 mm from the yankees.
miggs: the joke that directly preceded that got a much bigger reponse. I asked the guy where he was from (I already knew the answer, of course) and he said Boston in his thick accent. I said that it was great that so many Bostonians had come down (to Virginia) for the wedding and commented that my cousin was something of a father figure to many up there. That got a very big laugh, but only from those in attendance who knew that my cousin had been a fertility clinic sperm donor while in grad school at Harvard.
“HE DROPPED THE BALL! HE DROPPED THE BALL!”
Still my favorite game of the season.
““So umm where is this window that they said?”
The window at the concession stand when they take your money and lie about a game they have no shot of playing.”
Bingo. Greedy Yankees, my friend is there and he says hes calling out tomorrow, and leaving by 9:30. I hope for his sake they at least make a decision soon
Maybe they should lift the amphetamine ban for this game?
LLIME, sorry i read your comment wrong. it should be directed at ian :I
9:40 start time.
Finally the tarp is being pulled off. This game will last til 2 am.
It’s funny… the two guys on the trade block who could probably help us out – Pavano (if we want a #5) and Vasquez, have such bad histories with us.
“i’m not sure it’s the best place for baseball advice either
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Unless that advice is coming from me, right randy?
9:40 start time
Not bad, it will be like a West Coast game.
Nick
Officiating, as in licensed to perform the ceremony?
Nick having that power could be a story more interesting than Ramey’s lovelife.
Luckily tomorrow is Friday.
I’ll just go into work a little late and leave at 3.
But I’m certainly not going to sleep when the game is still on.
Just texted my buddy, told him to sit tight
We don’t need another starter right now. Mitre looked more than capable. No reason to give up anything for a spare part that we already have lying around somewhere. Now let’s start off another sweep with a win tonight CC. 7 in a row, let’s do it.
When is the last time we won a game after a long delay?
@ Texas = lost
Boston – lost
Washington – lost
We just come out lethargic after rain delays. Don’t be surprised if this Mazzaro kids throws 7 innings of 1 run ball and we lose 3-1.
I hope the yankees show plate discipline and not swing at the first pitch like a pack of wild hyena’s like they against the nationals.
Damn, maybe I should head over to the stadium and see if I can get tickets and watch a game that could end at 1:30 am…
miggs, you’re a true fan.
I’m lucky, I have tomorrow off. Thank you 9/80!
lets go yanks
They should allow players to take “greenies” in situations like this.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
There we go. Favorite game of the season.
Yes, as in licensed to perform the ceremony — it was a one-time deal (hopefully).
I started with “Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today…” and finished with “I now pronounce you husband and wife.”
In between I got a little more creative.
The Butler
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Since May 13th Brett Gardner is hitting .315 with 3 HR, 15 RBI, and 25 runs scored.
Gardner is also hitting 262 with a 354 obp against leftys.
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Swell, but he’s .190/.286 since that 5-for-6 game against the Mets on June 26.
I don’t go to sleep til 1 anyway. This game just gives me something to do
Patrick what is 9/80?
Austin Jackson is 2-4 with a pair of strikeouts, tonight for Scranton.
Kevin Russo is 4-4 and Pena is 2-4 with a double and an RBI.
Seth Fortenberry’s 2 out, 2 run homer in the bottom of the 9th ties the Tampa/Ft. Myers game at 3 all. Romine has a 2-4 night with a triple. Pat Venditte is starting his third inning. 2 hits, 1 strikeout
Some of the players were planning on hanging at the stadium really late tonight for the Hope Week XP camp day.
More game and less carnival for the campers looks to be the plan now.
“Swell, but he’s .190/.286 since that 5-for-6 game against the Mets on June 26″
Melky is hitting 230 since May.
The Butler
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
“Swell, but he’s .190/.286 since that 5-for-6 game against the Mets on June 26?
Melky is hitting 230 since May.
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What is your point, pray tell.
Man, Washburn pitched another gem tonight.
Could have had him for nothing last year.
The stadium is going to be so dead. The only people there will be the families/friends of Mazzaro and Raji Davis LOL
miggs July 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Man, Washburn pitched another gem tonight.
Could have had him for nothing last year.
AJax is nothing
Mariners wanted a lot more than nothing last year for Washburn, along with not paying any of his salary.
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
The Butler
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
“Swell, but he’s .190/.286 since that 5-for-6 game against the Mets on June 26?
Melky is hitting 230 since May.
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What is your point, pray tell.
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No point just throwing out numbers about some yankee players.
It’s going to be one of those games where no one is in the stands. Like that 5 hour rain delay game against the Nationals.
Hopefully the Yankees are interested in the game unlike last time.
When are the Knicks going to get LeBron James?
“Patrick what is 9/80?”
9/80 means you’re on a 2 week schedule. Monday thru thurs you have a mandatory 9 hour day, one friday you have 8, the next friday you have off. It basically means you put in 80 horus in 9 days instead of 80 in 10.
A lot of companies do it to save money, it’s especially popular amongst the defense industry.
For those that follow the minor league kids, the Yanks have moved damon Sublett from 2nd base to center field.
I also, like Patrick enjoy 9/80 and have tomorrow off
Hello late night game.
“Patrick what is 9/80?”
Some larger corporations do it. Basically you work 9 hours Monday through Thursday, 8 hours on Friday then 9 hours Monday through Thursday the next week and get that second friday off.
The company I work with is pretty strict about the hours employees work (due to government contracts) so it kind of makes sense.
Matt July 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
The stadium is going to be so dead. The only people there will be the families/friends of Mazzaro and Raji Davis LOL
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I KNOW! I really want to go. I was at work for 12 hours though and am tired.
“A lot of companies do it to save money, it’s especially popular amongst the defense industry.”
Bingo. Do you work in the defense industry as well?
The Butler
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
The Butler
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
“Swell, but he’s .190/.286 since that 5-for-6 game against the Mets on June 26?
Melky is hitting 230 since May.
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What is your point, pray tell.
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No point just throwing out numbers about some yankee players.
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Numbers with no context are irrelevant.
Rainy weeknight – Oakland A’s, 10 PM start time.
2,000 people tops. Yankees better not sleepwalk through the game like they do after most long rain delays.
“Man, Washburn pitched another gem tonight.
Could have had him for nothing last year.”
unless you have the inside info..they wanted ajax…which is not “nothing”
Ajax for Washburn?
Over Brian Cashman’s dead body.
They orginally wanted Phil Hughes and to take on all of Washburn’s contract. Then it was AJax and another prospect, and still taking on all the money remaining on his contract.
Too much for his level of talent.
“I KNOW! I really want to go. I was at work for 12 hours though and am tired”
Dont go. CC will throw a no hitter if you stay home.
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
The Butler
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
The Butler
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
“Swell, but he’s .190/.286 since that 5-for-6 game against the Mets on June 26?
Melky is hitting 230 since May.
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What is your point, pray tell.
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No point just throwing out numbers about some yankee players.
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Numbers with no context are irrelevant.
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I will use context Gardner has been doing a nice job for the team since May.
GB7 – I wonder if moving Sublett says something about how the Yankees see their needs for OF in next couple of years, vs. availability of IFs.
woohoo baseball! late baseball though, but ill take it
anyone mind seeing B Arroyo here, kind of a up and down SP, but he does get innings
7:40 sounds great!!!! Its like living back in Connecticut all over again.
I thought AJax was the starting point of negotiations.
Obviously I didn’t think that’s what they’d have to give up to get him, especially if they picked up his entire salary.
I will use context Gardner has been doing a nice job for the team since May.
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Then enjoy it while it lasts
Venditte’s night is over. 2.2 innings, 3 hits, 2 runs, 1 earne, 1 walk, 1 strikeout. 5-3 bottom of the 10th, Ft. Myers.
dont want arroyo…he is also planning to have surgery because he cant grip a guitar without pain anymore…no im not joking.
cliff lee is the only pitcher (since we arent getting holliday) that i’d trade anything for.
any other pitcher out there we can probably just fill in august via waiver, or call up.
cliff lee is the real difference maker available.
by the way, arroyo has a 5.2 era with a 1.5 whip…no thank you.
It’s going to be tough to stay awake for this one.
I like Ken Singleton, but jesus, Al Leiter bores me to death. I’ll probably fall asleep midway through the game due to the commentating.
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I will use context Gardner has been doing a nice job for the team since May.
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Then enjoy it while it lasts
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I will Gardner is taking me on a heck of ride!
How likely is it Mazzaro is nervous in front of an empty stadium now? sigh
Lets go Yankees!
Joe from Long Island
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
GB7 – I wonder if moving Sublett says something about how the Yankees see their needs for OF in next couple of years, vs. availability of IFs.
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yeah, Joe, I think so. I still think that if he stays around, Romine ends up in a corner and Laird, Angelini and maybe Joseph or Lassister, also.
Wasnt Paul O’Neil doing the game today too? I could of swore Lorenz was saying Singleton, Leiter & O’Neil were doing the game on the pregame @ 6:30PM. LOL maybe he bailed instead of waiting for the rain delay?
“How likely is it Mazzaro is nervous in front of an empty stadium now? sigh”
Yep.. he’ll feel right at home like he is in Oakland lol
The team almost always comes out lethargic after these rain delays and gets shut down. Hope it doesn’t happen again tonight, but it probably will.
Tarheelyank July 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
“I KNOW! I really want to go. I was at work for 12 hours though and am tired”
Dont go. CC will throw a no hitter if you stay home.
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Good point
I figured 9/80 was some escoteric, extreme version of 420.
The Gardner/Melky bias is so funny.
Some of you blindly support Melky and rip Gardner.
Others defend Gardner at all costs and downgrade Melky’s importance.
IMO the team needs both of them. You can skew stats any way you want. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.
Neither one will get all the playing time and I think that’s a good thing. I don’t see why everyone can’t see it that way.
Trivia question:
What’s the record for most consecutive batters retired in a single game?
Numbers with no context are irrelevant.
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Are they?
Are you sure?
94 006 89_1
Now what do you have to say, Bodhi!?!?
“I figured 9/80 was some escoteric, extreme version of 420.”
I wish..
I’m not as big a pothead as miggs or you folks in SF but once in awhile it’d be nice @ work =/
I will Gardner is taking me on a heck of ride!
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Yes, I’ve no doubt about that!
I find myself be really cautious of pitchers who’ve spent extended time in the NL, especially borderline pitchers. At least in the NL the 9th man is usually a life vest, while the AL is a guantlet. Thats why Burnett is so valuable. 7 IP and 2 or 3 runs in the AL East equivalent to pitching a shutout in the NL.
Ramey!!!
Are you back?? Did you scroll up at the comments and look at the raging debate you started? LOL
this coverage is so weird – you rarely see all this stuff on TV
Patrick, Michael Kay had a major problem with Phil the last couple of years – he always trashed him as having mediocre stuff. Now he’s impressed and he thinks Phil should stay in the pen? He can just jump off the bandwagon with everyone else that trashed Phil….and he sounds like Francesca with his comments about the kid being in the pen. It’s not happening, so he’d better deal with it….Brandon Tierney? LOL Steve Phillips? LOL. Isn’t it interesting how for years the idea was that you could never have enough pitching (generally speaking, that was referring to starting pitching)…yet now all of a sudden, these clowns want to take two kids who could be dynamite starters (because we all know they are easy to find_ and make them the next Mo. There will never be another Mo, first of all, and second of all…….because it’s SO easy to develop top notch starters. I don’t think so. Boy, am I glad I’m on vacation, lol
DYNASTY IS DESTINY!
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Trivia question:
What’s the record for most consecutive batters retired in a single game?
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Unless there is a trick I am not thinking of, isn’t it 27?
where can I listen to game?
Erica – I was thinking the same thing
Guys . we need to think outside the box. I think we all agree ( even Brian Cashman ) per MLBTRADERUMORS.COM that we need another starter.
how about-
Zach Duke or John Lannan
the answer is 36.
“this coverage is so weird – you rarely see all this stuff on TV” – Rishi
I like it. It allows us a glimpse into the behind the scenes of the game, we get to see the mechanics of the team preparing and setting up to start.
It’s like actually being at the game and seeing the players do their thing prior to the first pitch. I wish they would make it a regular thing, and show even more.
What exactly is the point of a 2 hour and 40 minute rain delay if they are still playing in the rain????
Erica-
Yes, yes I did. Good thing I gave you guys something to talk about or you all would have been REALLY bored!!
More people in the stands then I expected. Much more than the nationals game.
GreenBeret7
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
the answer is 36.
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Extra innings?
“I’m not as big a pothead as miggs or you folks in SF but once in awhile it’d be nice @ work =/”
Hey now hang on a sec…. where are you getting this information from?
So, are we going to have baseball, or am I going to have to sit here for the next four hours with a stupid look on my face?
“Unless there is a trick I am not thinking of, isn’t it 27?”
I believe Harvey Haddix once retired something like 36 before losing the game in the 13th inning
Joking miggs, just joking.
Betsy, good post, made me laugh
What’s the record for most consecutive batters retired in a single game?
“The pitcher that had the most perfect innings in one game was Harvey Haddix of the 1959 Pittsburgh Pirates against the Milwaukee Braves at County Stadium in Milwaukee. He threw 12 consecutive perfect innings but the Pirates did not score as Braves pitcher Lew Burdette ‘scattered’ 12 hits over a complete game of 13 innings. In the bottom of the 13th, the first Braves batter, Felix Mantilla, reached base on an error by Pirates third baseman Don Hoak ending the perfect game. After a sacrifice and an intentional walk, Joe Adcock doubled to breakup the no hitter and win the game for the Braves.”
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_.....LB_history
What’s the record for most consecutive batters retired in a single game?
“The pitcher that had the most perfect innings in one game was Harvey Haddix of the 1959 Pittsburgh Pirates against the Milwaukee Braves at County Stadium in Milwaukee. He threw 12 consecutive perfect innings but the Pirates did not score as Braves pitcher Lew Burdette ‘scattered’ 12 hits over a complete game of 13 innings. In the bottom of the 13th, the first Braves batter, Felix Mantilla, reached base on an error by Pirates third baseman Don Hoak ending the perfect game. After a sacrifice and an intentional walk, Joe Adcock doubled to breakup the no hitter and win the game for the Braves.”
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_.....LB_history
Ramey – Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Erica-
Yes, yes I did. Good thing I gave you guys something to talk about or you all would have been REALLY bored!!
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No problem. Glad we could help. We are always here for you. LOL. Not sure how many of us you’d actually want to listen to though
This is like the Boston game… still raining after the rain delay
Hope no one gets hurt.
Eights
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
“this coverage is so weird – you rarely see all this stuff on TV” – Rishi
I like it. It allows us a glimpse into the behind the scenes of the game, we get to see the mechanics of the team preparing and setting up to start.
It’s like actually being at the game and seeing the players do their thing prior to the first pitch. I wish they would make it a regular thing, and show even more.
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I agree – just not what I was expecting when I turned the game on. felt a little weird.
Tampa comes back down 5-3 against Ft Myers and wins in 10 innings on a wild pitch and RBI singles by Sublett and Laird.
DYNASTY IS DESTINY!
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Trivia question:
What’s the record for most consecutive batters retired in a single game?
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Unless there is a trick I am not thinking of, isn’t it 27?
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I was thinking about extra innings as well as the regular 27. But i don’t know.
Pepitone
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:47 pm
So, are we going to have baseball, or am I going to have to sit here for the next four hours with a stupid look on my face?
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LOL.
Id they’re going to play in the rain anyway. they might as well have started the game at the normal time LOL
Without going to google it, Harvey Haddix had a no-no going into extra innings. I think he lost it, and the game, in the 13th.
726 comments by first pitch. Impressive people
“No problem. Glad we could help. We are always here for you. LOL. Not sure how many of us you’d actually want to listen to though”
Lol, well I must say, you were all pretty funny about it, i got a great kick out of hearing everybody’s varying opinions on the matter. its the unity of the yankee blog
Betsy (or Mrs. Hughes, whichever you believe) will go to the ends of the earth to defend her favorite player (son).
# DYNASTY IS DESTINY! July 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Trivia question:
What’s the record for most consecutive batters retired in a single game?
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more than 27 because both teams count right?
link for the game anyone?
Well played Joe.
I’d love John Lannan on the Yanks, I think he’s a real good pitcher. The thing is, I don’t think the Nats have any reason to trade him. It would take a lot, more than you might think, because of that.
I’d love John Lannan on the Yanks, I think he’s a real good pitcher. The thing is, I don’t think the Nats have any reason to trade him. It would take a lot, more than you might think, because of that.
“I’m not as big a pothead as miggs or you folks in SF but once in awhile it’d be nice @ work =/”
sound like ganja profiling to me.
“Without going to google it, Harvey Haddix had a no-no going into extra innings. I think he lost it, and the game, in the 13th.”
That dude was robbed
miggs
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
The Gardner/Melky bias is so funny.
Some of you blindly support Melky and rip Gardner.
Others defend Gardner at all costs and downgrade Melky’s importance.
IMO the team needs both of them. You can skew stats any way you want. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.
Neither one will get all the playing time and I think that’s a good thing. I don’t see why everyone can’t see it that way.
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The excitement about Gardner’s speed is understandable. He’s done a nice job adding a dimension the Yankees have frankly lacked.
What is puzzling is the seeming hatred reserved for Cabrera. I would call it inexplicable, gratuitous ridicule, even. It is bizarre, to say the least.
The writer of this blog has been taking shots at Cabrera since Spring Training. He – and others here – seem to regard the kid as some kind of pestilence.
I think the Melky defensive stuff is reactionary.
Come on DT, you know everyone in California are druggies. Just the fact that Nick jumped to the 420 conclusion proves it
Patrick I’d be lying if I said I don’t indulge occasionally….
need help from people in Mass.
How close is this station to Cape Cod?
WBRK (1340) PITTSFIELD MA
Game is NOT available online for listen or watch. You’re just out of luck.
That’s such BS…making the fans wait almost 3 hours
Big Carsten nice inning
LOL Miggs, that makes no sense in regards to this conversation. No one is trashing Phil -and I’m not defending him. Hey, if you want to keep Phil in the pen, that’s your right. I think it’s ridiculous, sorry.
Patrick, these guys are all sheep – they follow one right after the other. I wonder if they share one brain – or half of one. Eh – the nice thing is that the Yankees aren’t listening to them so they’ll just have to keep beating that dead horse
Okay scratch that question. I see it is far far away.
Next question how close is this station to Cape Cod
WPRV (formerly WSKO) 790 AM EAST PROVIDENCE RI
or is there one closer?
http://www.wcbs880.com/Yankees.....es/1899902
Going there on vacation next week, and need to get some baseball fix in red sox nation.
Rob from MV July 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
That’s such BS…making the fans wait almost 3 hours
They already wait 3 months…whats wrong with 3 hours!
Damon + wind……. should be interesting tonight.
15 pitches for CC
waited**
Where can I watch for free online? ATDHE.net doesn’t have this game on.
Stultus Magnus
24 more to go. Good job
lol Carl…
Betsy you know I’m just messing with you. That comment was more in regards to your overall posting subject matter, not that one particular post.
But no one loves Phil more than you. That I am sure of.
“miggs
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I thought AJax was the starting point of negotiations.
Obviously I didn’t think that’s what they’d have to give up to get him, especially if they picked up his entire salary.”
You do realize AJax alone would be too much for him?
BTW from what Cash told Suzyn he might target minor league SP depth and call up his own. You might see Nova up and the trade be be for arms they can put to fill depth in the minors.
I still would target these guys
Zach Duke
Ian Snell (you plug him into AAA and call up Nova)
Jonathan Sanchez (innings eater)
Bronson Arroyo
Aaron Harang
Jared Washburn
Patrick I lived in San Diego for 7 years….you’re not too far off in your assessment.
“Come on DT, you know everyone in California are druggies”
you are right. I forgot all about Balco.
Patrick
“Bingo. Do you work in the defense industry as well?”
Yep I do, I’m an engineer
“Trenton had five pitchers combine on a one-hitter. They were Jason Stephens, Kanekoa Texeira, Wilkins Arias, Grant Duff and Jose Valdez. Trenton beat New Hampshire 4-0.”
Trenton’s starter had a no hitter going on Monday night through, I think, 4 or maybe 5 innings when they pulled him.
Brandon-
What on earth are you going to talk about after the trade deadline?
“What’s the record for most consecutive batters retired in a single game?”
Yes, it was a trick question!
36 is the correct answer.
“I’d love John Lannan on the Yanks, I think he’s a real good pitcher. The thing is, I don’t think the Nats have any reason to trade him. It would take a lot, more than you might think, because of that.”
The Nats are going to ask for the moon on him. And he’s not worth all that, pretty good SP but not at the tag the Nats will put on him.
wow that girl in the stands is quite enthusiastic
2 Ks?
miggs,
I was half joking but that’s pretty hilarious.
“Brandon-
What on earth are you going to talk about after the trade deadline?”
The season?
Trivia question:
There have been 9 combined no-hitters in major league baseball history…
How many combined perfect games have there been?
Tarheelyank July 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Stultus Magnus
24 more to go. Good job
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I like to contribute any way I can
Speaking of San Diego, Bob Geren went to my High School and graduated the same year as me. It was the same High School that the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High was written about.
“The Gardner/Melky bias is so funny… They both have their strengths and weaknesses.”
Melky has a weakness for failed California gubanatorial candidates. At least he didn’t fall for Gary Coleman.
Brandon,
how is jonathan sanchez an innings eater? he’s only pitched into the 7th inning 4 times this season. that’s like saying joba is an innings eater
Shoulda gone…
Oh well. No perfect for CC tonight.
Stultus Magnus
Oh well, we tried
How about the record for most walks in an inning for one pitcher?
I was looking for that online yesterday, but couldn’t find it.
Ramey not to bring up a sore subject but if you post a pic of Papelbon’s #1 fan I can give you a much more educated opinion on whether you should keep her around or not.
whoa – these guys came to hit
“Melky has a weakness for failed California gubanatorial candidates. At least he didn’t fall for Gary Coleman. ”
well done Nick.
does he work for peanuts?
Miggs, sorry to be so defensive. I should be used to the ribbing by now as there sure is a grain of truth – I love the kid. Of course, I guess I’m not only Phil’s Mom, but AJ’s as well, lol…..I make no bones about it.
TylerKepner: Sabathia vs. Mazzaro. An Oakland guy pitching for NY and a NY guy pitching for Oakland.
You are not alone, Betsy…
LoHud favorite
Much like infamous Heather
Hughes has two mommies
come on CC
TylerKepner: Sabathia vs. Mazzaro. An Oakland guy pitching for NY and a NY guy pitching for Oakland.
Good thing Mazzaro is not from New York.
miggs-
hahhaa, don’t worry, that matter was settled. i read a bunch of people posting that someone who lies about sports is lying about a lot of other stuff and let’s just say you were all right haha
I’m going to hire Nick to do standup at the next big party I host. All expenses paid.
Guy cracks me up. He has to be even funnier in person, wouldn’t you think?
Stultus Magnus
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 pm
How about the record for most walks in an inning for one pitcher?
I was looking for that online yesterday, but couldn’t find it.
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I found it-
AL-
Dolly Gray Washington 8/28/1909 2nd Inning- 8 Walks
Nl-
Bob Ewing Cinncinati 4/19/1902 4th Inning- 7 Walks
George Keefe Washington 5/1/1889 5th Inning – 7 Walks
Tony Mullane Baltimore 6/18/1884 1st Inning- Walks
“Brandon,
how is jonathan sanchez an innings eater? he’s only pitched into the 7th inning 4 times this season. that’s like saying joba is an innings eater”
B/c eversince they sent him to AAA he’s fixed his mechanics, we are looking for viable options in the #5 SP spot also a versatile arm you can use if needed. Not everyone is going to give 7-8 spotless IP per game.
Ramey – Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
miggs-
hahhaa, don’t worry, that matter was settled. i read a bunch of people posting that someone who lies about sports is lying about a lot of other stuff and let’s just say you were all right haha
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What else was she lying about????
Who are you taking to the game now on Saturday??????
Live yanks stream:
http://www.p2p4u.net/watch-liv.....038;link=1
I don’t know why CC doesn’t use his curve. He has a nice one.
CC seems to be off….hopefully just due to the rain delay…settle down big fella
I thought we all agreed that Betsy actually was Phil Hughes
Live stream:
http://www.p2p4u.net/watch-liv.....038;link=1
Bobby Crosby…really????
might be a long night if CC keeps leaving those pitches up…battle through CC.
a’s are a hot offensive team right now and its showing…but CC’s poor command isnt helping
Ugh – just going by Yankees.com, looks like CC doesn’t have it at all tonight.
miggs, I’m very shy and unassuming in person. Only on LoHud can I really be me!
Betsy: Phil Hughes :: Brandon: Jonathan Sanchez
Cano just saved Mall Cop’s bacon.
It probably just seems this way, but CC has just been flat out awful this year when he needs to bear down with guys on base.
I’d be lying if I said watching him this year wasn’t really frustrating. Its a lot like Johnson in 2005 where nothing ever seems to be completely right. Either the velocity is there but he has no command, or he doesn’t have life on his pitches, or he’s hanging breaking balls, or yadda yadda ya. He has the ability to pitch a hell of a lot better than he has so far this year. The fact that he can’t miss bats is an awfully ominous sign for the duration of this contract.
must take advantage of the red sox being idle
Mazarro pitching against his favorite team as a kid? We have seen this before. CC might have just lost it there.
40 pitches for CC
So…how many combined perfect games have there been in MLB history?
Thanks Erica!
Guess I didn’t look hard enough.
Where’d you find it?
i like Zack Duke..you could get him i think for 3 mid level prospects…would be a soild 3rd starter…good goundball pitcher
jennifer July 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
need help from people in Mass.
How close is this station to Cape Cod?
WBRK (1340) PITTSFIELD MA
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Pittsfield is all the way across the state.
Awful with running on base? Overreact much?
Stultus-
Baseball Almanac. I love this website
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/rb_menu.shtml
This is going to be a long night
Yankees look like amateurs tonight.
Let’s do some more SAT stuff, that was fun.
Randy L: Cashman :: Trisha: Posada
“It probably just seems this way, but CC has just been flat out awful this year when he needs to bear down with guys on base.”
you mean like last game when he had a lot of guys on in risp and beared down and gutted out a fantastic 7 inning shut out?
CC’s been good this year, but definitely not as good as we thought. I would have thought by now he’d have turned things around………His last few starts have been so up and down: terrible against the Ms, terrible against the Angels, very good against the Tigers (I forget who he pitched against prior to the Ms)…
Yanks can forget about working for walks or waiting Mazzaro out. He doesn’t walk batters.
He checked that
How can he call himself a Yankee fan? Mazzaro perfect through 2, with 4 strikeouts. Only 24 pitches.
rain delays.. Yankees flat.. CC struggling.. this may not be the night for them.. Least the Sox have the night off
Looks like a perfect game against us.
mazzaro’s making the yanks look foolish.
mazzaro looks really good…like really good…
Betsy July 23rd, 2009 at 10:21 pm
CC’s been good this year, but definitely not as good as we thought. I would have thought by now he’d have turned things around………His last few starts have been so up and down: terrible against the Ms, terrible against the Angels, very good against the Tigers (I forget who he pitched against prior to the Ms)…
Yeah I mean, hes no Phil Hughes
It’s only the 2nd inning……boy, I guess the Yankees are expected to be perfect.
Ralphie, that was one start. We’re now 4 months into the season – are you suggesting that CC has pitched lights out? The man has been good overall – but he’s definitely had his issues.
how is somebody awful w/ a 3.66 ERA ?
By of year, don’t be surprise if Smoltzzz has a better ERA than CC and AJ.
DYNASTY IS DESTINY!
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
So…how many combined perfect games have there been in MLB history?
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None. They have all been thrown by one pitcher
Let’s hope CC has a better inning here
Come on Betsy, CC’s been pretty consistent. He’s not going to shut down the opponent every game, but he’s going to give you 7 innings and a chance to win the game.
The durability, control, and consistency is what earned him that huge contract.
Burnett and even Joba are more likely to throw a no-hitter or strikeout 12 guys than CC is.
Carl, that’s just a ridiculous post, lol. That’s your defense of CC? That he’s no Phil? Weak – next time, tell me why you think CC has been dominant this year? Tell me why he’s been lights out? I’m making a statement of fact – I’m not trashing the guy.
Carl = CC’s brother
Brandon,
In Yankeeland, that’s how. The land in which every loss or bad inning is treated with panic.
They aren’t going to go undefeated the rest of the way and some of the kiddies just can’t accept that.
“By of year, don’t be surprise if Smoltzzz has a better ERA than CC and AJ.”
LMAO ! LOL ! LMAO !
You mean the John Smoltz that can’t see his way out of the 5th inning of his starts without getting knocked out?
Gotta love Red Sox fans. They are in second place and still drinking the “John Smoltz will save the season” Kool Aid.
The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
VT Yankeefan the Original
Do you know if I’d be able to get the Rhode Island station in Cape Cod?
Betsy
And you’re Phil’s grandmother. That’s all you talk about; PHIL PHIL PHIL PHIL PHIL.
Miggs, CC IS durable and he IS a horse – I don’t mean to take that away from him. I’m not saying any of that is not true, nor that he generally doesn’t keep his team in the game. I just thought he’d be more – dominant (but I don’t necessarily mean he’s be striking out double digits). I’m asking this because I honestly don’t know – was this basically the kind of pitcher he was in Cleveland?
How can anyone say that CC can’t strike out 12 guys.. He struckout 250 last year! This year 135 innings and 99 K’s.. He isn’t as dominant this year. I expected him to have an average K per inning.. So I am a little disappointed in that.
“What else was she lying about????
Who are you taking to the game now on Saturday??????”
Let’s just say I started off dating mother theresa in a yankee cap and she ended up just being a mother in a red sox cap. i’ll let u infer the rest haha
i’m undecided as to who im taking with me…it was pretty funny, she thought i was just gonna give her the 2 tickets and be on my merry way lol
CC looks utterly hittable again. I’m very worried about him come playoff time where his record is not great. Trading for Halladay makes too much sense.
We take Halladay and we take Wells off their hands for a lesser package as we are helping them out. Vernon Wells has such an idiotic contract and they would have to be to grateful to rid themselves of it. Then we let Johnny walk at the end of the year and have Wells and swisher play the corners for the next 2 years or so.
that was a better inning… Now let’s get some hits!
Let’s Go Yankees
“By of year, don’t be surprise if Smoltzzz has a better ERA than CC and AJ.”
I would agree w/this. They’re combined ERA may be just a tick above Smoltz’s.
“Burnett and even Joba are more likely to throw a no-hitter or strikeout 12 guys than CC is.”
Burnett already has one, CC last season was robbed of one vs the Pirates….com’on man.
way to go walking about of the box Cano
UGGGGG CANO!
way to go walking out of the box Cano***
Why is swisher wearing cano’s number??????????
karroll
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 pm
By of year, don’t be surprise if Smoltzzz has a better ERA than CC and AJ.
Sox trolls must be bored. Doesn’t NESN have Candlepin bowling on tonight? Heidi Watney reruns?
And that is why Cano will never be great.
BENCH CANO!!!
Jennifer…depending on how far out on the Cape you are, you can get 790 am, but you may also get 880 WCBS at night.
Stupid lazy Cano.
You know its late when the bad trade packages start getting posted from panicked children up WAY too late at night.
There isn’t a scenario in which the Yankees are taking on Vernon Wells’ contract.
You can trade for him in your video game. The Yankees aren’t going to trade him and CC Sabathia will be just fine.
Try real hard not to go into panic mode over this game, regardless of the outcome. If they lose, they will survive.
Again Carl, that has nothing to do with CC. I really don’t care what you think about my Phil posts (and I post plenty of things that aren’t about Phil – not that it matters. If he’s a hot topic, I’m going to jump in).
You still didn’t explain to me how CC has been lights out or even more than good/solid this year.
Man! I wish Harold Reynolds would shut up!
That was smooth.
SJ – you’re making a pretty big assumption, about there being a mind, that is.
Does every hometown, local pitcher have to pitch a perfect game against the yankees?
Maz going for 10+ K’s tonight by the 5th inning.
This guy has a 6 ERA in his last 5 starts? He will probably shut us out for 7 innings.
Vader July 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Jennifer…depending on how far out on the Cape you are, you can get 790 am, but you may also get 880 WCBS at night.
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I’m going to be in farmouth.
that was ball 5.
This kid Mazzaro has nice stuff….Yanks are off balance, maybe guessing a little
You don’t pay a guy 161 million for durability, control, and consistency. Sabathia was paid to come here to be a dominant ace starter, not a middle of the rotation innings eater. And so far we haven’t seen anything resembling that guy. Its frustrating because watching him pitch, you see why this guy could be a generational talent. He’s incredibly athletic and watching him pitch is pure joy. His mechanics are a thing of beauty and the ball explodes out of his hand.
Now I would hardly be surprised if CC ended up going seven strong today, but I’m starting to get more than a bit concerned with his inability to miss any bats. Its certainly not a velocity issue…maybe he’s just adjusted his approach. In which case I would encourage him to adjust back, because he wont be the guy he was the last two years with this strikeout rate.
I have no doubts he will be that guy again at some point, but I’d like to see it sooner rather than later, if anything for my own sanity.
GO BRETT GO!
This is pretty pathetic so far. What in God’s name was Robbie thinking?
Sox troll can’t even spell Smoltz’ name. AJ’s ERA is now 3.67 – what is Smoltz’ again?
Erica,
Correct! There has never been a combined perfect game in MLB history…
Terry no offense but most of your posts are just way off. Usually of the whining, negative, unaccurate variety.
Did you think CC’s numbers pitching in the NL Central were going to be the same as his numbers in the AL East?
Again, he’s going to eat innings and usuallypitch with excellent control. He will strike guys out and he can dominate on occasion.
But if you watch the games you know AJ has more electric stuff. So does Joba when he’s on. That’s just the facts, believe what you want.
DYNASTY IS DESTINY!
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Erica,
Correct! There has never been a combined perfect game in MLB history…
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YAY!!!!!!! I AM A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!
“This is pretty pathetic so far. What in God’s name was Robbie thinking?”
He was probably thinking something along the lines of “every single one of my teammates have looked utterly lost at the plate tonight, so I need to turn this into a double no matter what”.
They look over-matched.
You may get 790 in Falmouth with a good radio, but I would also check 880.
We all have our wants and needs. Personally, I want halladay but the yankees dont necessarily NEED him.
DFox
He was probably thinking something along the lines of “every single one of my teammates have looked utterly lost at the plate tonight, so I need to turn this into a double no matter what”.
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I think you mean “I need to turn this into a double even if I have to walk there!”
This Mazzaro guy is rolling.
That NJ crowd is starting to piss me off.
Here’s a question I don’t know the answer to:
In MLB history, have there ever been 2 or more perfect games or no-hitters thrown on the same day?
Miggs.. CC put up alot of K’s in his Indian days and he pitched a half year with them averaging a K per inning. This year he doesn’t have that at all.. Look up the facts before you throw out BS at me. So his time in the NL doesn’t carry weight with me. He was dominant and got a CY Young award in Cleveland!!!!!!!!!
whoa… this team is getting spanked.
Betsy name 1 pitcher besides Halladay who is “Dominating” in the AL East.
rephrase: mazz is kickin our butts.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY July 23rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
That NJ crowd is starting to piss me off.
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I second that.
Now who DIDN’T see the Yanks getting owned by this kid. Better hope we get to that bullpen.
“I think you mean “I need to turn this into a double even if I have to walk there!””
Just stop. Cano looks at the ball for one second because he thinks it might be foul and now he’s committed the crime of the century. It isn’t like A-Rod ever does that… Oh wait, he does.
Cano is the least of the worries tonight. Maybe Jeter can lay off that slider in the dirt in his 3rd or 4th at bat.
Can someone please kick that fan out.
A’s seem to be spankin’ CC pretty good too…
“Now who DIDN’T see the Yanks getting owned by this kid. Better hope we get to that bullpen.”
somebody says this everytime…it doesnt happen every time…
mazzaro has a ton of talent…dont let his last few starts fool you…just watch him pitch…he throws hard and has good off speed pitches…hes not your average run-of-the-mill bum
In other news, its really completely embarrassing Andrew Brackman has become. Tonight in an 11-10 win for Charleston, he was out in the third inning. His line:
2 1/3 IP, 6 hits, 7 runs, 5 walks, 3 Ks
He’s now 1-11 with a 6.72 ERA. Mind you, this guy is earning a major league contract. He’s 23 and the majority of the guys he’s pitching against are at least two to three years younger than him, at least. Its truly pathetic.
“whoa… this team is getting spanked.”
2-0? spanked?
It’s just the rain delay, same thing happened vs WAS
Stupid fan – help them out with a ground rule double, why don’t you?. Something kinda sad about seeing grown men with gloves drunkenly trying to catch foul/fair balls in the stands.
Jennifer I was just in Falmouth, Cape Cod this past weekend.
Check out “the Skipper” if the weather is good. Its a fun bar on the beach. Just beware if you wear any Yankees gear. They’re all manic Sox fans out there.
For a good seafood restaurant, check out “the Dolphin”. I had a lobster and scallop dish that melted in my mouth.
Cano does that every single time. He is fundamentally the worst MLB player I have ever seen.
SJ, Any word on Tony getting bumped up yet ???? Seems he’s passed the test, time for the next challenge…..I still expect him in Pittsburgh in September 2011…
CC is pedestrian, and the Yanks pull the usual act against a 22 yr old pitcher. Pretty much ballgame.
CC’s first start in Baltimore was awful.
I think this one might be worse, honestly.
Swisher makes that catch
Good effort from Hinske.
We did not even show up for this one.
3-0 boo! I don’t see us mounting a rally against the immortal Mazzaro.
C.C is just fooling no one.
game ain’t over yet, but it doesn’t look good. Off to bed. Long day ahead.
Andrew Brackman is a guy coming off TJS, all you want is for him to pitch a certain amount of innings this yr. You have him a A-ball and forget about him for a couple of yrs.
Criticizing his every start is ridiculous.
Pretty sure Valenzuela and Dave Stewart threw no hitters on the same night. Pretty sure it was a Friday.
Poor Rebecca!
She is at this rain socked horrorfest
are the yanks awake tonight?
ugly. Sabathia has zero, the same as Cano’s brain….
Cano was watching his work..
keep it at 3….UGH
Angel
Stupid fan – help them out with a ground rule double, why don’t you?. Something kinda sad about seeing grown men with gloves drunkenly trying to catch foul/fair balls in the stands.
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Let alone reaching over the wall. Do they really escort those fans out or are they just bluffing?
“Criticizing his every start is ridiculous.”
Not to mention exceedingly easy.
CC is not really dominating this year.. I think he’s great but his K’s seem to be down..maybe that bicep isnt all the way healed
This is a pretty piss poor performance from CC.
oakland advanced scouts have done a good job on cc…
“3-0 boo! I don’t see us mounting a rally against the immortal Mazzaro.”
You know this team, after Hinske’s effort out in RF I really can’t question if they will make a comeback, it’s when.
“Miggs.. CC put up alot of K’s in his Indian days and he pitched a half year with them averaging a K per inning. This year he doesn’t have that at all.. Look up the facts before you throw out BS at me. So his time in the NL doesn’t carry weight with me. He was dominant and got a CY Young award in Cleveland!!!!!!!!!”
Terry I feel like I’m teaching a stubborn high school student sometimes when I try to reason with you. Cliff Lee won the Cy Young award last year. Does he have “no hit” stuff? Did he dominate in every start? No.
He had great control with movement. Saying a guy is an innings eater is not a slight, its a testament to his durability and mechanics.
If you really thought his numbers were going to be the same this year pitching in the AL East….I really don’t know what to tell you.
after a 2 hour 45 min rain delay, it’s probably overthrowing… but game ain’t over yet.
When CC doesn’t have his best stuff he should just eat the other team.
CC has none of the leadership qualities he showed with Milwaukee last season. He can’t get guys out with RISP to save his life and rarely dominates an opponent. His ERA will be around 4 after tonight, which is light years away from being an ACE.
He has pitched like a number 2 or 3 guy, that’s it.
I dont know GBIC, but seeing as that ground rule double scored, they should, lol.
Haha, that’s funny. I like Brackman, loved the pick actually. Remember watching him play against my Dukies at NC State. But the guy has pretty much been the worst pitcher in the minor leagues this year, maybe save our old friend Jeff Marquez. He has been so bad that its impossible not to talk about, especially when he’s making major league money and showing no progress at all.
vader thanks!
The Yankees must be losing. Either that, or clown school let our early tonight.
Boston should not be allowed to have a game off when the Yankees play. The trolls in this thread are on a roll. Pete should make us register to post.
“Criticizing his every start is ridiculous.”
“Not to mention exceedingly easy.”
Yeah, no kidding. 1-11 is all you need to know. There is no sense in bashing the guy. He is 1 and freaking 11. Im sure he knows how badly he has sucked.
Excellent game by CC tonight. Preview of the rest of the season.
Now the CC bashers come out his ERA will not be about 4 after tonights game. He has about 12 quality starts on the year..
hinske and swisher both have real bad arms….
its games like this that make me feel embarassed to be a yankee fan because so many of you give up and whine and complain when the yankees arent winnning…its kind of disgusting that if they dont win every game they suck….very weird
miggs- I am removing my yankees license plate holder, afraid someone would do damage to my car. I won’t wear any Yankee gear. lol
thanks for the ideas!
you think CC will be just fine SJ44, 1-3 with 7.92 ERA in the playoffs doesn’t seem fine. I have no faith in him once the games mean anything
HEAR THAT…yanks are 17-7 against rookie pitchers this year!!!!…but this isnt your average rookie!
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome
It’s sad seeing an adult who either can afford to sit in those seats or had his company put him in those seats, go somewhere and not be able to behave like an adult.
I just think the Yanks bail when they face a rookie, a championship team should take care of 20 yr old kids.
lets go baby..NJ has been cheering too much.
Only a fool, or a Sox troll, would think this game is anywhere near over.
“I just think the Yanks bail when they face a rookie, a championship team should take care of 20 yr old kids.”
17-7 vs rookie SP
Best in the majors.
Tex!!!!
for ghits and shiggles. Cc was 6-8 last year after 20 starts with a 3.68 era. This year he was 8-6 with a 3.66. Dont sleep on sabathia. He is very capabale of running off a stretch of dominating starts. He showeed that last year. I Have faith in CC. I dont want to here anything form you all if he retires the next 11 in this game.
Tex does what he does best.
Wow Tex just murdered that ball
Oh… my… that is long gone.
There’s your comeback.
Green light
TEIX!
Hmm, 17 – 7 vs rookie pitchers this year?
What was that about the the mantra that the Yankees don’t win vs rookie pitchers again? If thats the case, thats a pretty good winning percentage, just quietly.
i was hoping a-rod would do that to tie up, but i’ll take it
Let that NJ cheering section cheer that.
Was Michael Kay too cool to stand this rain delay????
Apologies if this was asked
MVP! MVP!
Take that NJ FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH NO…THE YANKEES SCORED A RUN AGAINST A ROOKIE???
is the end of the world upon us..
Tex hit that to the fans from Jersey.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY July 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
“I just think the Yanks bail when they face a rookie, a championship team should take care of 20 yr old kids.”
17-7 vs rookie SP
Best in the majors.
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Don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant lol.
hells yeah!
That was a hell of a shot.
PL July 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Was Michael Kay too cool to stand this rain delay????
Apologies if this was asked
had today off
Heh, Brandon. I see you noticed that little bit of trivia too.
“MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome”
I should just find some way to get in touch with johnny and let him know that you’re some sort of prophet with your deductive reasoning skills about crazy red sox fans. he’d be all about making you his pgf at that point, he’d leave his wife
back in the game…now if cheeseburger cheeseburger can just settle down
Jennifer removing the license plate holder is a smart idea. They’re nuts out there.
I was lying on the beach when a Sox game was going on. I was able to follow the entire game by listening to some people around me.
Women, men, young, old, they all breathe Red Sox. Between that and the accents it was quite nauseating.
I also was denied service at one particular bar because I had on a Yankees shirt. No joke.
Hmm, Wang seeing Dr. Andrews. Not good news.
carl
Thanks. I wish i cud have a day off ater a 2 week vacation
Wang might be done for the season. (Dr. James Andrews)
UPDATE, 10:46 p.m.: Damaso Marte update: 1 inning, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 0 strikeouts. 9 pitches, 8 strikes
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Sounds good. It was because he played all of that catch!
Nice work by the Yankees in this bottom half of the inning. Just a few more runs.
CC was 11-2 in the second half of the season last year.
WANG HAS TO SEE ANDREWS!! I feel so bad for him. And for those that went to sleep, shame on you!
Texeria launched that 3-0 pitch…..Kid maybe be getting a little punch drunk….
PL July 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
carl
Thanks. I wish i cud have a day off ater a 2 week vacation
He does a round table discussion on his radio show once a year. I think this was they day they had it…so it was a day off for him.
no mercy I want this NJ kid crying
Ramey – Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
“MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome”
I should just find some way to get in touch with johnny and let him know that you’re some sort of prophet with your deductive reasoning skills about crazy red sox fans. he’d be all about making you his pgf at that point, he’d leave his wife
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This is the greatest post in LoHud history. Thank you Ramey
“I also was denied service at one particular bar because I had on a Yankees shirt. No joke.”
That’s crazy. Was that 1962 or something?
terrible news, i guess wang will be out for a year.
THAT was a strike to Matsui?
Someone is cranky up late.
Miggs
“Jennifer removing the license plate holder is a smart idea. They’re nuts out there.
I was lying on the beach when a Sox game was going on. I was able to follow the entire game by listening to some people around me.
Women, men, young, old, they all breathe Red Sox. Between that and the accents it was quite nauseating.
I also was denied service at one particular bar because I had on a Yankees shirt. No joke.”
It’s not that bad, I’m a displaced NYer in Boston(lots of high tech work up here, not so much on Long Island) and there’s lots of Yankee fans up here. I wear my hat religiously and meet a lot of people who share the same love.
The cities are ~200 Miles apart, I mean that’s nothing, hell I’ve drive to YS and back in one night
vb03
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY July 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
“I just think the Yanks bail when they face a rookie, a championship team should take care of 20 yr old kids.”
17-7 vs rookie SP
Best in the majors.
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Don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant lol.
Unless your name is Bill Maddon
CC is not an innings eater. He is an ace. I did a post on this on my blog lst week- the only pitcher with better numbers over the last 3 years is Johan. That’s it. Halladay is close, so is Webb and Haren.
Wang seeing Andrews not good.
Can’t Tivo the YES feed which I prefer. Lucky (for me) there was a 2’5 hr. rain delay because no Tivo coverage since I live in NoCal. Loving the Yankees this year. Feels like 98-99. Could it be? 3 G YNkees fan isolated in Sonoma County.
Man if Wang’s report comes back with cuff damage, someone needs to get written up, as he was not handled right at all…..
Nomar looks tiny next to Arod.
Srsly I want that whole NJ cheering section in tears.
“That’s crazy. Was that 1962 or something?”
No it was last Saturday.
My parents hadn’t even met in 1962.
Need to pounce on the kid here.
Ralphie, we haven’t agreed on much lately, but I completely agree with you about fans giving up. The Yankees are human beings and humans are imperfect -expecting them to be so is ridiculous. This team has made up 5 games on the Sox in just over a week – if tonight is a bad game (a blowout) or just a loss, well – welcome to reality as all baseball teams deal with that. I don’t think they are going to go undefeated the rest of the year….and hasn’t this team earned a bit of faith from their fans?
Vinny Maz now at 60 pitches w/no out out in the 4th.
GJ Alex
Alex’s hip feeling much better?
Ugh Matsui
Matsui had a whole bunch of hittable pitches there
beat this kid ass
Check that, 68 pitches with 1 out in the 4th. I’d like to get him to at least 80 this inning.
Jorge needs to smash this ball.
Posada!
Jorge is THE MAN
Wow, thank goodness we didn’t forfeit in the 3rd inning
My wish has been answered…….. Thank you.
Hip Hip…
Where is this news about Wang seeing Dr. Andrews? In any case, the Yankees have had relatively good luck with the guy – neither Bruney nor Marte have come back with the worst news. Also, isn’t Wang’s problem with his shoulder and not his elbow? If he needs surgery (not TJ), how long would he be out?
Hip Hip Jorge!!!
Like Brandon said, the comeback is not a matter of if, but when.
Hip Jorge
That steal by A-Rod was critical for that run.
good call BennyBlanco
Very nice! A show of power by Tex hr and then playing some small ball with Arod stealing then Posada with a big base hit. Very good job Yankees.
“WANG HAS TO SEE ANDREWS!! I feel so bad for him.”
To see Andrews, I thought you just needed to buy the NY Post.
Keep beating this kid’s ass
CC will win this game.
It is high it is far it is……one-hop off the wall
GLARRRGGHHH
JORGE!
This kid is no longer punch drunk, he’s on the ropes
Nice AB Cano.
Second time through the order is always the tricky part for rookies.
and to think how many people said this game was over…its like they dont watch this time this year…
Hey yankees fans, how much longer until Hinske’s # is in monument park you think??
Betsy
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Where is this news about Wang seeing Dr. Andrews? In any case, the Yankees have had relatively good luck with the guy – neither Bruney nor Marte have come back with the worst news. Also, isn’t Wang’s problem with his shoulder and not his elbow? If he needs surgery (not TJ), how long would he be out?
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Ken Singleton said it during the Broadcast.
Hinske!!!
Heads up baserunning by Hinske.
The MALL COP !
Nice!
Badabinski!!!!
I gather Hinske likes being a yankee…..
HINSKE FTW!
4-3 yankees!!!!1 I like it; I like it a lot.
The double was only worth one hip.
But scoring from 2nd? Hip, Hip, Jorge!
Well played, DT.
Nice AB and baserunning, Hinske!
and now they are leading…
com’on Gardenhoser
Cano is getting back to last years funk!
DaveO I was talking about a small town on Cape Cod. I’m sure they’re much more tolerant in downtown Boston.
Cano needs to be slapped off the head everytime he swings at the 1st pitch……….
Hinske getting a 2-out RBI, and taking the extra base – What could Cash have been thinking when he got this stiff?
Kevin James!
amazing what one time through the order can do
Wow. In the words of Ron Burgandy “That escalated quickly.”
BKNYY – you can watch this game on p2p4u dot net. Click on other sports tab. It’s a good stream.
Woohoo! Yanks leading!
Move Hinske up above Cano in the batting order.
Wang could end up being one the Yankees got right by not locking him up to an extended contract like people wanted them to do.
Tex hits it a ton…
A-Rod, Posada, Hinske…
Mazzaro’s malaise…
If Wang were a horse, they would have shot him already…
wheres the shots of the “mazzaro” family now?? Humbled this kid a bit
40 through 3…40 in the 4th…thats crazy…but the yanks bow down to rookies…
Where did all the trolls go?
All of a sudden they’re leading…some posters must feel rather silly right now.
Whose idea was it for us to sign TEX again??
Thank goodness for Blart!!!!
Erica, thanks!
Brandon-
It is time to retire Gardenhoser. It is not funny. It never was
I’m telling everyone right now, if Andrew’s report indicates Wang has cuff damage, Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup ) will be passing around a petition for Cashman’s head on a platter……
CC not looking all that pretty.
CC better hold on.
Benny Blanco,
I think I was one of the early proponents for Tex. I even had to defend against some crazy fans who said we didn’t need him.
Can I take some credit?
MAZZORO?? local hero HUH!!!
WELCOME TO BIZZARO STADIUM.
And as I write this…cc gives up a single.
that was a good pitch
On the A’s broadcast, their poll question is, what Yankee hitter scares you the most among:
1. Arod
2. Jeter
3. Tex
4. Swisher
They are getting great swings against Sabbathia. Not good.
Looks like Gardner’s swing needs to be leveled off. It’s a natural popup swing for a non-power hitter.
Mazz at 81 pitches
I don’t get Pete’s post – there’s nothing to say until Wang see’s Dr. Andrews. What exactly are they hiding? Are they supposed to diagnose him on their own?
I also think it’s too easy to blame Wang’s injury on the Yankees..Wang has had a history of shoulder/elbow problems (didn’t he have TJ some years back). I won’t blame them.
come on CC…find your groove!
“Whose idea was it for us to sign TEX again??”
Brandon didn’t like it….
This might be a night were Aceves has to give some innings as CC doesn’t look like he’s got it…
gutsy play by jeter. I like it
“On the A’s broadcast, their poll question is, what Yankee hitter scares you the most among:
1. Arod
2. Jeter
3. Tex
4. Swisher”
Swisher scares me on defense. Does that count?
Betsy July 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm
This might be a night were Aceves has to give some innings as CC doesn’t look like he’s got it…
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Or if we get a big enough lead, Bruney
“On the A’s broadcast, their poll question is, what Yankee hitter scares you the most among:
1. Arod
2. Jeter
3. Tex
4. Swisher”
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Just giving a beloved ex-A some dap
“Brandon-
It is time to retire Gardenhoser. It is not funny. It never was”
Never.
GardnerBelongsInCenter -
Or if we get a big enough lead, Bruney
No lead is big enough for Mr. Bruney
I wanted Tex so bad…didn’t think we were going to get him. I will never forget the meltdown on ESPN after the Yanks got him. And Heyman “The Yankees are on the verge of signing Tex”
Any guesses at the way the late innings will shape up tonight?
Stop dissing my boy cc. He will hold this lead down.
“gutsy play by jeter. I like it”
its all about the gut…
“Brandon didn’t like it….”
I’m not gonna lie, I really didn’t. Glad I was wrong.
Gardner, the Yankees do need to get Bruney straightened out. It would be nice to have a big lead…..then Melancon can pitch as well. This team doesn’t blow a lot of teams out, though, so ….
Wang not going to see Dr. Andrews but his test results are.
Does that make the news better or worse?
Tint
No lead is big enough for Mr. Bruney
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You’re right, and if there was one, MLB would establish a mercy rule during the game so we would never get the ball to him.
Man Davis is fast
CC at 75 pitches. He will go seven tonight.
“This might be a night were Aceves has to give some innings as CC doesn’t look like he’s got it…”
Whether he’s “got it” or not, he isn’t coming out before he hits 110 pitches.
I will never understand the Cano bashers.
I guess there are more .300+ hitting smooth-as-silk fielding 2B out there than I realize.
Does he have flaws, hell yeah. Forgive him for being human.
Would you rather see Ramiro Pena (not to knock the kid, he has skills) out there everyday? Or better yet, a Pat Kelly type?
I’ll take Cano any day.
7th robertson/coke, 8th hughes, 9th MELANCON!!! it’ll be like a yankees Futures game!!!
Come on cc prove me right. get out of this jam.
Come on CC, one more out.
GJ CC
Who should we hold our breath with harder on routine flyballs, Hinske or Swisher????
Thank you.
Way to go CC. Fantastic job.
CC has a bit of David Wells in him.
good job CC!
Prediction: CC will have a 1-2-3 inning.
The Grim Reefer July 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 pm
I guess there are more .300+ hitting smooth-as-silk fielding 2B out there than I realize.
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it’s not that he’s not talented. He’s very talented. He’s just lazy and plays such a poor game fundamentally that hopefully every Little League coach in the world is telling their players not to do take after him (throw, run, field, take pitches).
Pete it is called trade leverage. They aren’t going to come out and say he is done for the year with the deadline coming up.
If Mo were available, I’d go Hughes 7-8 and Mo for the 9th if this score holds up.
Since he’s not? I’d probably go Robertson-Coke-Hughes with the same score.
Hopefully, we can get some insurance runs though.
Knock this NJ chump + his cheering section out
I knew the Mall Cop would catch it.
He cruised over easily on his Segway Personal Transporter.
I remember the crazy panic here at The LoHud when word was leaked that Theo , Henry & Lucchino were on their way to Texas to ink Texeria……I also remember being very confident that the Yanks would sign him when he didn’t sign on the dotted line with the BoSox……The week Of Christmas……
To answer someone’s earlier question- President Obama definitely knows about Buerhrle’s perfect game today.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
My guess…CC for 7 innings.
A combo of Aceves/Coke for the 8th.
Hughes closes.
Much better inning for CC.
I think Hughes will close tonight.
If he does and gets the save, that will do wonders for his confidence.
interesting stat here.
Jeter with a full count: 22 BB 4 K
by take pitches I don’t mean his tendency to swing at the first pitch, I mean how when he takes all the way he puts the bat down and practically steps out of the box before the pitch is released. That shows up the pitcher and lets them know that if they didn’t throw a strike, he’s likely to take again.
here comes 5 runs, 9-3 in 20 min..
No 35-year old man should listen to Linkin Park, Johhny.
The kid will not survive the 5th…
Obama hates baseball. It’s too American.
“CC has a bit of David Wells in him.”
Are you implying that CC ate David? Come on, he’s big but not *that* big…
Damon!
Mazzaro will be exiting this inning and when he does he can join his jersey friends in the stands.
Damon and Jeter set the table.
MPB Johnny Damon = Still Awesome
Yankees woke up. Or Mazzaro went to sleep.
Wow Pettitte looks sympathetic talking to Wang.
Hate to jump to conclusions, but we aren’t seeing him pitch anytime soon.
Johnny “Living Dangerously” Damon.
Every year is a world series year
““CC has a bit of David Wells in him.”
Are you implying that CC ate David? Come on, he’s big but not *that* big…”
Tex baby!!
TEX!
Nice one, Tex!
beat his ass
Tex is definitely the player of the game.
TEX!
How much better has the Jeter – Damon combo worked this year than the other way around? Really has made a huge difference with Jeter getting walks again, less double plays.
And Tex is simply awesome. Where are all the posts from the start of the year, he stinks, can’t handle NY and all that nonsense.
Tex quietly entering into his typical Post All-Star Break BEAST MODE
Arod is going deep.
Arod can bust this open. Just like the other nights, just get a single
Mazzaro had throw only 41 pitches in three innings.
Three outs (and three batters in the 4th) later he’s up to 92.
Phranchise, he wasn’t doing well in the beginning of the season. What did you want people to say?
oops…
Three outs (and three batters in the 5th) later he’s up to 92.
I still like A-Rod.
GJ UMP!!!
blue had the worst strike zone there.
I do have sympathy for Mazzaro, I really do. And he deserves to have his family and friends there cheering him on.
Having said that, his fifteen minutes of fame are just about over.
tex
arod 
Can’t blame A-ROD for that AB, a bad call and then a perfect pitch
Jorge thats a BLOCK
Stupid umpire!
Better get these runners in
O/T but Pierzynski was on the sporting news radio today. I hate the guy, but he gave a wonderful interview about the perfect game.
They knew last night that Pierzynski wouldn’t catch Buerhle today, so Mark always gets tickled and goes, “yeah!” Pierzynski teasing him about having a personal catcher today. Supposedly, they were still yakking before hand and he said maybe you’ll have a no-hitter with your personal catcher. Mark goes, “nah I already got one” Pierzynski said, “Maybe you’ll have a perfect game then”
And Pierzynski stayed in the clubhouse with Buerhle in the bottom halves of the games.
Was really a good interview.
Bases loaded! Let’s go Posada!
Johnny D what I wanted was people to give him a chance of more than a month and have a clue that over his career he has always had horrid starts, it’s his worst month every year. I just think it’s funny when people jump ship. Joba is the latest rolling around under the bus pushing Hughes out of there from last year.
should have pulled him, you’ll be sorry.
UPDATE, 11:05 p.m.: It’s astonishing how bad Cano is with RISP.
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I guess Pete longs for the days of Tony Womack.
That makes one of us.
HiP + Hip = Jorge
Mazzaro will be keeping his reservation at the Clam Broth House within the hour.
dang that ball wasn’t even close.
CC needs insurance he looks terrible tonight.
LOOK OUT Singleton has an awesome voice
WOOT!
Posada gj!!!
Yesssss, Jorge!
nice jorge!
Cano will have the bags full
HIP HIP!
HIP HIP
Well at least this game was worth staying up for so far
I’m going to be highly productive at work tomorrow….
A. Mazzaro looks like he has the skills to be a good major league pitcher but time will tell.
B. The Yankees needed one time through the order to figure out the slider that was getting strikeouts
C. The Yankees aren’t going to lose to this kid for another couple of years, he isn’t ready yet.
and D. Relax, this team is on a roll even when CC doesn’t have very good stuff…
C Ya Rookie, like benny said. join ur jersey friends
Cano the king, prove us wrong.
Posada showing Robbie Cannot how it’s done…….
Cano..
Nice spot for Cano to get a hit with RISP!
Posada is flashy with the bat, but Molina would’ve gotten the same result with a HBP.
Cervelli just would’ve flashed his eyes at the ball and willed it into the outfield.
Should of left him in.
Jersey produces so many stinkers and another one is now leaving the field.
i kinda feel bad for mazz but then that quickly fades….
Vin crewshowing support which is nice.
Love the girl with the A’s shirt but the Yankees hat. Awesome, glad to know you and see you pitch, but still hope the Yankees win haha
At least it’s a short ride back to Jersey!!!
ok, now cano and his .200 career bases loaded average need to break this game OPEN!!!!!!
“Randy L: Cashman :: Trisha: Posada”
Just read this, really funny. However if you want to be more accurate it would be –
randy l: Cashman :: Rush Limbaugh : Obama
Cano can do this, the power of positive thinking!
It appears that the yankees have had enough of the 22 year old rookie pitchers.
The only way Cano gets an RBI is with a HBP!!!
I love that cheering section’s faces now.
NJ cheering section faces: “damn what happened?, he was rolling then he got his ass handed to him”
Nick in SF
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Mazzaro will be keeping his reservation at the Clam Broth House within the hour.
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I went to college in Hoboken when it was still a slum and spent more than one night in the bar with the sawdust on the floor. The Clam Broth House has been an institution for over 100 years…
I want to see that guy Mazz pitch well but not when he’s facing the Yanks. Gotta support the jersey boys. His stuff is NASTY and he throws strikes, hopefully he pitches well for the rest of the season.
Johnny D.
“Jersey produces so many stinkers and another one is now leaving the field.
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HEY!!I’m from Jersey and i resent that comment!!!even though its 100% true!!!!! :/
Nick in SF
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Posada is flashy with the bat, but Molina would’ve gotten the same result with a HBP.
Cervelli just would’ve flashed his eyes at the ball and willed it into the outfield.
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Montero would have caught the pitch barehanded, chewed it up, and spit it out over the wall, and taken a detour to beat the crap out of the pitcher before rounding the bases
Will Cano finally wait for the pitcher to come to him and give him a pitch he is sitting on or will Robbie get himself out here by swinging at everything?
Here trollie, here trollie trollie.
Damn trolls, never come when you call them.
Cano is so bad
Al from BK I’m sure you mean well, but some of your comments make you sound like the worst fan ever.
LOL at Cano
Cano is hideous. Awful tonight.
wow.
positive thinking failed, egg on my face.
POP UP, GG CANO!
MG, I agree, we’ll be hearing from this kid in a very short time…..He has real nice stuff…Love the way he drops that curve on the first pitch….
Cano hacks away and of course gets himself out. What a terrible at bat again ? What is he thinking, of course he isn’t actually thinking.
cano is gonna get killed by a lo hud blogger one day…i fear his safety
I’m laughing because I know you guys are all over this one.
Cano with RISP = Womack.
robinson caNO
Stupid SOB swings at the 1st pitch YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another wonderful AB with RISP. Nice Cano.
what is wrong with him??? The pressure is on the pitcher DAMMIT!
Jeters flip throw on MLB Network…fitting.
Isn’t Hinske due for another homerun?
jesus cano
Wow Cano is a total failure with RISP, he can’t even get an RBI on an out.
He is totally psyching himself out up there.
Nice f-bomb from Hinske
Can someone explain to Robbie that he is not requred to swing at the first pitch!
It’s well passed that point already. Just pathetic. The guy gets himself out all the time by swinging at the first pitch and many that are out of the strike zone.
Cano is the new Arod.
Attention American League pitchers: Robinson Cano will swing at absolutely EVERYTHING you throw to him!!!
So Yankees don’t blow it open with an ineffective CC on the mound. I hope he finds his inner David Wells, and cruises to a CG 3 R performance.
If Cano’s IQ is over 50 I’d be shocked!!!!!!!!!!!
RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm
cano is gonna get killed by a lo hud blogger one day…i fear his safety
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ROFLMAO
I didn’t hear Hinske curse.
watching Cano with risp makes my head hurt
2001 WS on Mlb network
“Al from BK I’m sure you mean well, but some of your comments make you sound like the worst fan ever.”
Hey man you can’t blame him, the smoke coming off the whopper grill has gotta get to you after awhile.
How about Cano for Kemp now
what a waste of an opportunity. Good grief Cano. Get him to sports psycologist pronto.
cano cannot hit with RISP because he is stupid. really. why swing at the first pitch? They will throw a 2nd even if the first is a strike.
he is always trying to be a star, the guy really has to have about a 80 IQ. try to be a hero, never succeed. can’t he realize that????
cano is so frustrating
swing at the first pitch
pop it up
sometimes he just seems lazy
he doesnt want to work the count
he just wants to swing
cano is so frustrating
swing at the first pitch
pop it up
sometimes he just seems lazy
he doesnt want to work the count
he just wants to swing
“Todd
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 pm
At least it’s a short ride back to Jersey!!!”
Classic.
At least Cano still plays D.
take THAT cano haters!!!!
Gotta appreciate that Cano isn’t letting his RISP problems carry over onto the field.
Cano is a defensive wizard
Cano giveth and taketh away…
We could get Kelly Johnson cheap to play 2B.
Nice play but i’m still mad.
Seriously, Girardi should DEMAND that Cano NOT swing at ANY 1st pitches………..
MG: I have never lived in Hoboken, but we used to ride the PaTH train over to dine at the Clam Broth House, it’s been a family favorite. Nowadays I’m more likely to be visiting Maxwells if I visit that fair city.
Nice play by Cano, looked like it was going to get through.
I wonder how well Ransom can play 2B? His ABs would surely be better, as they could hardly be worse. And sitting for a say or two might get the point home to Robbie, to change his approach a bit.
Just a thought.
And right there, Matt I Want a Big Contract Holliday swings at the first pitch and Robbie makes a nice play. So what do I know?
O.k., Cano definitely channeled his inner-Womack on that bases loaded AB.
I think Nomar wants to play for the Yankees
Arod of last year gets that ball
A-rod is pretty bad in the field right now… think his hip is limiting his range?
Cano cant hit with men on to save his life.
lol past both of them
Cano could have gotten in front of that ball and fielded it the way they teach you to when you’re 6 years old.
CANO IS SO LAZY!!!!
Idiots…
LOL. The irony. The three best shortstops of the 90′s involved in the same play.
Cano is too dumb to let his hitting problems affect his fielding………
Cano can’t speak to save his life.
it is not being a cano hater.. he has played gold glove 2B and also stinks with RISP.. WHy can’t those 2 thought be allowed??
Patrick I don’t got a problem w/ the kid it’s that cheering section he had, reminded me of Manny’s Washington Heights section. All that was missing was for them to hang K’s on the deck.
*what a lucky single by Nomarrr*
Seeing eye single if I’ve ever seen one.
Maybe Cano can learn to multi-task from Tex.
Tex to Cano: You know Robi, you can actually hit with RISP AND play good defense in the SAME game!
I realize Cano has RISP issues, but is all this Cano bashing really necessary? What is 50 people saying “Cano sucks” and making fun of him really going to accomplish???
We have a 6-3 lead. Lets calm down a little
Erica, it’s fun. Give it a try.
“Seriously, Girardi should DEMAND that Cano NOT swing at ANY 1st pitches………..”
Then you should tell him to say the same thing to jeter, because he’s been doing that more lately than robbie
Ransom @2B…I’d rather they suit up a 50-year-old Mike Gallego.
Cano has completely lost his approach from the beginning of the year where he was actually showing some patience. It’s ashame, I thought he had taken that one step forward to becoming a top 25 MLB offensive player. I think most fans don’t underappreciate him, like me, they see how good he could be and get frustrated when he just doesn’t let himself succeed. That first pitch you just have your mind set you are swinging at whatever pitch is thrown. That isn’t a good plan.
His defense this year has been spectacular and very few mental errors. Slight one with not running on the double, but no awful defensive plays or lack of concentration.
M,
I was thinking the same thing. Looks like nomar got the best of them this time, though he’s probably losing the overall race.
We have a 6-3 lead, but it should be 7-3 or 8-3….
i feel bad for cano…hes a good guy, a good player yet hes hated more kim jong il!
Can’t let NOMARRRRRR get them back into this game. The Sawks have already had their way with us enough this year, can’t let ex-sox do the same.
Cano is hitting almost .400 when swinging at the first pitch. The problem isn’t swinging at the first pitch, the problem is swinging at BAD pitches and pitchers pitches out of the strike zone.
GardnerBelongsInCenter
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Erica, it’s fun. Give it a try.
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No. I cheer and root for the players. I will not be brought down to that level. Especially for a player who actually has talent.
RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible July 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm
cano is gonna get killed by a lo hud blogger one day…i fear his safety
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Careful Cano.
“His ABs would surely be better, as they could hardly be worse.”
I know Cano frustrates sometimes but Ransom is not better.
nice job by Gardenhoser taking command of the pop up there.
It’s pretty obvious he just goes up there swinging at what ever the pitcher throws. He doesn’t have a plan/look for his pitch. Why? Who knows.
Pretty poor approach.
Cano is hitting over .400 on the 1st pitch as well as with 1-0 counts, maybe that’s why he is so aggressive:
First Pitch 54 72 72 31 6 1 4 15 0 0 0 0 .431 .431 .708 1.139 51 2 0 0 0 0 1 .397 169 160
1-0 Count 35 41 40 17 5 0 1 10 2 1 0 0 .425 .439 .625 1.064 25 4 1 0 0 0 0 .410 155 140
2-0 Count 8 8 7 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 .143 .125 .143 .268 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 .125 -35 -44
3-0 Count 10 11 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 0 .000 .909 .000 .909 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 .000 165 -6
0-1 Count 36 45 45 12 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 .267 .267 .333 .600 15 2 0 0 0 0 0 .250 45 53
1-1 Count 36 39 38 6 2 0 0 2 1 1 0 0 .158 .154 .211 .364 8 3 0 0 1 0 1 .154 -12 -14
2-1 Count 14 15 15 8 3 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 .533 .533 .933 1.467 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500 245 226
3-1 Count 14 14 8 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 6 0 .500 .714 .500 1.214 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500 210 85
0-2 Count 20 23 23 6 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 4 .261 .261 .435 .696 10 0 0 0 0 0 1 .278 64 263
1-2 Count 41 48 48 17 5 0 3 4 0 0 0 8 .354 .354 .646 1.000 31 0 0 0 0 0 2 .378 134 360
2-2 Count 40 50 50 9 3 0 2 7 0 2 0 14 .180 .180 .360 .540 18 1 0 0 0 0 0 .206 26 117
Full Count 26 33 30 6 0 0 1 3 1 0 2 4 .200 .273 .300 .573 9 0 1 0 0 0 0 .200 40 36
Every player isn’t the same, he’s hitting .200 with a full count. It gets pretty tiring reading all these comments without any statistical backup.
I will never understand the Cano hate.
It boggles the mind.
2 (TWO) players in all MLB have more hits than him in 2009. And he’s never batted higher than 5th in the lineup. Do you understand the mangitude of that accomplishment?
He’s also among the league leaders in runs scored, and while terrible with RISP somehow managed to compile 49 RBIs. Oh and he also plays borderline Gold Glove defense. At 2nd base.
For everyone bashing CC tonight, he will gut out 7 innings tonight.
Just watched all of the outs of Buehrle’s perfect game. I like the “hegone!” from the announcer. Amazing game.
CC nice
for those getting on Cano for swinging at the first pitch, he is hitting .438 with 4 HRs and 16 RBIs on the first pitch.
is this not good enough for you??
The Cano bashing is disgusting. Grow up.
Wow look at all this Cano hatred. Do any other players on the Yankees get this kind of treatment when they do poorly? It’s kind of absurd…
look at this bum CC…whos he think he is!!…he only is battling and gonna go 7 innings…weak
Nice escape by CC, wonder how deep he goes?
Robinson Cano is playing gold glove 2nd base, and hitting .311….absolutely we should trade him, or sit him in favor of a dude whos claim to fame is a vertical jump video on Youtube….
miggs
He doesn’t hit with men on.
I realize Cano has RISP issues, but is all this Cano bashing really necessary? What is 50 people saying “Cano sucks” and making fun of him really going to accomplish???
We have a 6-3 lead. Lets calm down a little
could have been 7-3 on an out. it accomplishes a little thing that normal people know as venting.
Cano could be batting .800 swinging at the first pitch if he was more selective on the first pitch.
Did you know that Robinson Cano is single-handedly responsible for the worldwide economic collapse?
His RISP issues pale in comparison, really.
The difference when Jeter swings at the first pitch he is looking for something and usually is swinging at something that resembles a strike. Cano randomly hacks at whatever is thrown. If he sat on a fastball looking over the plate that’s a plan. As good as he is at hitting bad balls, trying to do something up and in is nearly impossible.
HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I lied. He is batting .431 on the first pitch! Swinging at the first pitch isn’t the problem, swinging at bad pitches is!
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY July 23rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
nice job by Gardenhoser taking command of the pop up there.
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I remember Jeter practically climbing over somebody to get a pop-up in the outfield.
Ooh- The Old Yankee Stadium informercial is on after the game
Prime,
You’re right. It’s sad that Jeter’s nearing the end of his career. And it’s even sadder that Alex’s contract will outlast all three players.
for those getting on Cano for swinging at the first pitch, he is hitting .438 with 4 HRs and 16 RBIs on the first pitch.
is this not good enough for you??
OK wise guy. Find his stats for swinging at the first pitch with MEN ON. Betcha its under .150.
And the positive people say – woohoo, good job Cano. You didn’t hit into a DP. That’s progress!
swinging at the first pitch with the bases loaded and a new pitcher in is not a good idea…
so not only the percentages count but the situation……
again why need to swing at the first pitch…
Montero 7%…if they only knew
I’ll repeat this for those in the cheap seats:
Cano is hitting over .400 on the first pitch and with a 1-0 count, if I’m Kevin Long I have no problem letting him hack away.
toyota text poll, interesting.
Erica – always OPPC July 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
No. I cheer and root for the players. I will not be brought down to that level. Especially for a player who actually has talent.
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What about a player who has 100x more talent than he shows?
I know that oak lineup aint much , but CC is a beast. Hes doesnt have much and went 6
“# Wow. July 23rd, 2009 at 11:48 pm
The Cano bashing is disgusting. Grow up.”
Stop telling people what to think. He blew it twice tonight and his performance with RISP has been “disgusting”.
Does anyone here actually text in and vote for the YES polls? I almost wonder how many votes they actually get.
I would love to see Pete bat w/RISP (sponsored by Friedrich Air Conditioners, of course).
What was the question? I only saw the answers.
Jetah
PJH
“for those getting on Cano for swinging at the first pitch, he is hitting .438 with 4 HRs and 16 RBIs on the first pitch.
is this not good enough for you??
OK wise guy. Find his stats for swinging at the first pitch with MEN ON. Betcha its under .150.”
So you’re cool with him swinging at the first pitch, but with men on base you’re not cool with that??
It’s ok to vent.
Cano is not having a good game at the plate.
Can’t ignore that.
To answer somebody else’s question “Why all the Cano criticism?”
Because Cano COULD be so much better than he already is.
carl July 23rd, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Montero 7%…if they only knew
Def. That kid is gunna be a beast
Johnny D. July 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
What was the question? I only saw the answers.
Which prospect would you not trade
I am pro-Cano.
Jeterian swing.
“carl July 23rd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Johnny D. July 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
What was the question? I only saw the answers.
Which prospect would you not trade”
LOL. Now it makes sense.
Whew. I thought 7% was Montero’s CS percentage.
Christina- pictures from AAA Yanks game
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Does anyone here actually text in and vote for the YES polls? I almost wonder how many votes they actually get.
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I voted once for MPB Johnny Damon to be player of the game. LOL. I felt particularly strongly that night
That Teixeira HR should count twice.
m
“Whew. I thought 7% was Montero’s CS percentage.”
haha
“Whew. I thought 7% was Montero’s CS percentage.”
I think that’s varitek’s CS %
It really is awesome that the Yankees were able to get CC, AJ AND Tex. As outstanding as Tex’s offense is (HR, double!), his defense is a revelation. I’d almost forgotten what it’s like to have a really good first baseman. All three of them have been great additions to the team on the field and in the clubhouse.
So sad to hear the names Dr. James Andrews and Wang in the same sentence. I really hope that however long it takes, CMW can be restored to good health and function. His injury last year (thank you National League) and further health problems this year have been a big loss for the team, even bigger than one realizes. As great as the Yankees are doing, just imagine how good it would be to have our reliable, innings-eating, AL-East battle-tested, CMW taking his turn every five day to the tune of 18-20 wins for the season. They have got to be missing him big-time in that rotation . . .
Nick in SF
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
I am pro-Cano.
like the Scooter, I am pro-Cannoli.
What is frustrating is that Cano could be a great hitter with his natural talent, if he just became smarter at the plate..
GardnerBelongsInCenter
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Erica – always OPPC July 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
No. I cheer and root for the players. I will not be brought down to that level. Especially for a player who actually has talent.
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What about a player who has 100x more talent than he shows?
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That is different than “Cano Sucks” and making fun of him. Especially making fun of the way he speaks (I am not saying that was you, but someone did). Making fun of people with accents is not funny. Everyone on this blog most have some relative who at one point was an immigrant to this country
The logic of his BA going down going deeper into the count is ridiculous. First off you see one pitch per at bat and therefore can’t possibly have any feel for what the pitcher has. This lineup is built to run pitch counts up and part of why the Yankees won all those championships, wearing down the pitcher. Tex could probably have some nice numbers swinging first as well, but he allows himself the opportunity to swing at a pitch he wants to hit and is waiting on, not just any pitch. Cano hitting .400 on the first pitch just shows how much talent he has and his ability to hit anything. Imagine being more selective and consistent thru a full season with his talent. Again, he doesn’t suck, he just could be even better with his talent.
In April he was working counts, he had six walks the first month, the most of any this year and I think 4 in the first 5 games or something. He batted .366 that month, his best stats. He had more home runs and more rbis and a .400 obp.
Cano is Cano. Excellent 2nd baseman, over .300 hitter, has some issues hitting with RISP, particularly with the bases loaded. But the issue won’t be fixed by being more selective since he hits better being aggressive. He’s a .261 career hitter with RISP and .293 with the bases loaded, not as good as we would like but this year is just lower. Last year Arod hit about .240 with RISP, this year he’s over .300, it changes from year to year.
Can we please win a blowout for once? Score 10 runs the next inning
Patrick….whopper grill….funny stuff.
If CC has a quick inning here he could pitch the 8th and they could go straight to Hughes for the 9th.
This is the value of CC. He gives up 3 early runs and is not sharp at all. Now he’s starting the 7th at 91 pitches with a 3 run lead in complete control of the game.
So Cano didn’t get it done. He’s swung on 1st pitches before and gotten line drives out of them.
As long as it doesn’t cost us the game, no big deal.
It’s obvious he can’t change, we just have to accept it.
That’s why I was laughing earlier. I knew that there were plenty angry fingers typing out what a lot of us were thinking.
“What is frustrating is that Cano could be a great hitter with his natural talent, if he just became smarter at the plate..”
Vlad Guerrero has a terrible approach at the plate, but nobody ever questions his intelligence. Fact is, Cano is bad with risp, yes. But, Tex and Matsui aren’t that good with risp either.
Thank you MIGG!
“Everyone on this blog most have some relative who at one point was an immigrant to this country.”
ok Erica, how did you know about the Russian mail order bride?
I was young. It was a loosey goosey era.
venting when your team has a 6-3 lead? there might be deeper-seated issues going on there.
Erica, that was me. I wasn’t making fun of his accent. I bet if I heard him speak Spanish I doubt I would understand what he was saying either.
Cano’s a player you DON’T want thinking out there.
He’s a free spirit out there. On both sides of the ball.
It’s unique, and I’m actually growing to love it.
C’est la vie should be his nickname.
Meanwhile, amongst all the Cano bashing, the Yankees have come from behind once again and CC has gutted out a pretty good performance…
At least Cano is having a stellar year with the glove. Maybe if we just consider him a classic no hit great glove middle infielder we could just be surprised with his consistently meaningless hits.
Call the bullpen
Call the bullpen
warm up the BP
“It’s obvious he can’t change, we just have to accept it.”
Why can’t he?
CC’s a gamer. A lot of their best hits have been on well placed pitches. They’ve just strung them together into runs.
*broken bat* = STHU Brandon
Wait Cano with RISP is at .209, Tex is .250 which isn’t great, but he has far more production in less at bats. Cano actually has more at bats with RISP. Now why is that Because he’s got 25 walks that have lead to Arod driving them in. He also only has 20ks. Cano has 5 walks.
before we hear the calls for Melancon, Robertson, and Bruney (OK, there won’t be any calls for him) there is no way any of them pitch late in a game with less than a 5 run lead for the rest of the season.
Nick,
Ask Cano that question.
The Phranchise – remember Tex’s first month doesn’t count toward his stats.
Great outing CC
how does a 22 yr. old rookie and a LH reliever get that call but not CC?
Did Cano say he can’t change?
Is he uncoachable?
Yes- Call the bullpen for the next inning
at least Cano’s fielding percentage doesn’t go down with RISP.
What are peoples thoughts on Holliday? Want to see him in the OF next year? I am torn, love his bat and think he is a very good solid player who would fit well. Scared he will get too long a contract and too much money for his talent.
cc battled tonight
Trying to make players cookie cutter models of what you want them to be is silly and likely frustrating.
Please remember, ladies and gentlemen. Refrain from moving during “God Bless America”.
GGCC
Gritty Gutty Carsten Charles!!!
all this guy does is give the yanks a ton of above average innings…his durability alone is worth gold
Anyone know how many pitches CC is at?
Anyone know how many pitches CC is at?
CC…..way to gut it out.
7 innings 9hits 3 runs 0 walks 4 K’s
Speaking of restaurants in Hoboken, the BEST pizza going is at Grimaldi’s on Clinton St.
So Buchholzing good!!!
108 pitches
“Anyone know how many pitches CC is at?”
Around like 105? For sure near his limit…
Buster Olney hating again.
I’m for Sabathia pitching, or, at least starting the 8th inning if the Yanks don’t score in the bottom of the 7th inning.
Ok stat guys what’s Cano’s career risp avg.
I am pro Cano, and proud of it.
Cano’s more than capable of making changes as asked by the coaches. But they don’t always stick. He reverts back to his natural tendencies.
Dude’s hitting over .300, making contributions, and not striking out a ton.
He’s doing okay in my book.
“What are peoples thoughts on Holliday? Want to see him in the OF next year? I am torn, love his bat and think he is a very good solid player who would fit well. Scared he will get too long a contract and too much money for his talent.”
Let him go to STL, I’m not trading big prospects for him and he’s a FA and he’s just not the same guy he was in COL.
Olney got beat up by Jeter…that’s why he hates on the Yankees.
Cano is a career .261 hitter with RISP and .245 with the bases loaded
This isn’t s must win game, but sure would be a nice one to have with Anderson on the mound tomorrow.
That kid is on a roll.
Good outing by CC, but I’m tough to please and I want to see better in the coming weeks. At least we need to see better in the coming weeks if he’s going to win close games against other teams playoff 1/2 starters.
I felt like tonight would have been a good night to get Robertson a shot in a leveraged situation and let CC relax after six, but Joe is managing every game like its game seven of the World Series right now. Tough to complain about that I guess, but I’d like to see Robertson and Melancon get some chances.
I went to the bathroom during God Bless America. Does that make me a bad American?
CC has gone 7 innings 12 out of his 15 starts this year…btw! Per singleton.
atleast he was trying to RF…I like that strike out.
Tarheelyank July 24th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Ok stat guys what’s Cano’s career risp avg.
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2009: .209
Career: .261
GB, Glad you’ve arrived…This place is nuts….Yanks come back and take the lead, CC overcomes a shakey start, and Robbie Cano is get ragged on….
So you’re cool with him swinging at the first pitch, but with men on base you’re not cool with that??
With men on, it would be nothing but beneficial for Cano to work the count. If he gets ahead with a 2-0 or 3-1 count, the odds of him getting a good pitch to hit jump up dramatically.
My guess is Buster Olney has small hands and feet. Extrapolate from that what you will.
someone tell Mo to sit his ass down
Can they blow someone out so other relievers get work. Seeing Hughes a bit too much lately imo.
Actually odd numbers
Cano .322 with no one on
Cano .284 with runners on
Cano .261 with RISP
Cano .245 with bases jacked
Over his career.
I will say though that during many of the bad playoff series over the last few years, he was one of the few that was hitting then.
watching the game on mlb network and they showed matssi’s playlist as 2 billy joel songs and a journey song…thought that was funny
actually .209 (2009) .260 (career) after being 0/2 so far tonight
We have a 3 run lead… can’t we use any other relievers? It’s not a 1 run game.
“What are peoples thoughts on Holliday? Want to see him in the OF next year? I am torn, love his bat and think he is a very good solid player who would fit well. Scared he will get too long a contract and too much money for his talent.”
Worst idea ever. His splits are terrible.
GB I agree on CC.
Not sure Girardi thinks the same.
I mean .205 in 2009
“Can they blow someone out so other relievers get work. Seeing Hughes a bit too much lately imo.”
He actually needs the innings. This is not a bad thing.
Why not save Phil here, Aceves for 2
You guys wanted Hughes to be used like the 96 Mariano right?
96 Mariano pitched everday.
Yussssse !
Let Phil close it out!
Holliday is a very good player, but it’s likely that no player that’s played at Coors will ever be as good as they were there.
Still, he’s got a .900 plus .OPS since May 1. He was red hot coming into tonight. He’s also an above average left fielder. Much better than Bay.
Beane will ask a ransom though.
I wouldn’t discount him as a free agent, especially since he won’t get the deal he thought he would coming into this year.
Meant Holliday next year….. which is a ways off, but he is just a solid player, guess it’s what he is looking for as a contract. I personally would like him much more than Bay. He is a much more consistent hitter, less power, but has more speed and I think fits this team better. I believe far less strikeouts too.
Hughes for 2 innings?
Mo maybe pitching? Saw him stretching.
Al from BK
This team can come back. Ask the twins.
Hinske is actually good OF, why not Johnny
Sorry, m, that was a bit of a headscratcher… not only can’t Cano change, but it’s obvious? And if I want to know why you think that, I should ask Cano? But then he is more than capable of making changes?
I will agree with you that he’s doing okay and doesn’t deserve all the abuse he gets.
nasty pitch
Mo like cutter nice
Just pounds the k zone.
who’s closing? Bruney? I kid I kid
Pat M….
July 24th, 2009 at 12:14 am
GB, Glad you’ve arrived…This place is nuts….Yanks come back and take the lead, CC overcomes a shakey start, and Robbie Cano is get ragged on….
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I left when the nitwits took over. I see there are still a few whining about Cano. Even a few still wanting Kemp, who’s numbers, other than stolenbases, aren’t any better than Cano’s. I’ll take a 2nd baseman with that bat and that glove any day. Remember back in the ’60s and ’70s when the combined numbers of Cabrera and Gardner were the average numbers of major league center fielders not named Mantle, Mays and Pinson?
anybody think one day Robi could play the COF
Here is “nasty”. Straight filth. HUGHES!
Here is “nasty”. Straight filth. HUGHES!
Ok .261 not great not terrible. That tells me he’s due to go on a tear this year.
I would like Carl Crawford more than either of them but I assume the Rays will pick up his option.
Cano and Jeter on defense make the sickiest over the shoulder catches you will ever see. They might be one and two on best on those plays in the league. Robbie being the best.
“This team can come back. Ask the twins.”
That game was CRAZY. The funny thing was the A’s announcer called it when they were down 13-7.
They panned the crowd, and the announcer said, “These fans will get to see the A’s come back from a 10-run deficit.”
Seemed like a ballsy statement at the time.
Cano and Tex chea!
Cano!
Yussssssse !
Robi !
girardi shouldnt of said mo isnt pitching….cause now hes gotta catch heat for it if he does pitch
look at cano and tex!! wow!!
CANO IS SO BAD….>ARRRRRGGGHHHH
Superb play by Cano. That, he can do.
Wow, that was all Teix there
Man, Hughes has been a BEAST out of the pen.
miggs
July 24th, 2009 at 12:17 am
GB I agree on CC.
Not sure Girardi thinks the same.
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I see it as Sabathia being a big healthy horse on a cool night and not wanting to expose the softer part of the bullpen any more than necessary.
9 pitches.
Let him pitch the 9th.
Mo needs a day off.
Those throws make me sick. But I have a feeling that as long as he’s not throwing them away they’re never going to get better.
Dontcha Know!!
1-2-3 for the franchise.
Looks like Mo stretching, don’t pull a Joe Torre, Joe
Does Cano have time to set there? I think he’s getting used to that nonchalent play even for ordinary plays. He’s got to remember who’s running
Excellent play by Cano. You Cano bashers are beginning to tick me off. Pick on someone else or . . . if you cann’t say anething nice about someone, don’t say anything at all.
Hey the team is winning. Where is the positive support.
Hughes is so darn good! It’s unbelievable.
Cano makes that across the body throw look so easy.
This year Cano and Tex deserve GG.
If that right side of the infield doesn’t get gold gloves this year I don’t know what to say.
I also love seeing Hughes perform like he did in the minors. For those that never really saw him down there, he was a little less velocity wise on the fastball, much more around that 93ish range, but lots of ground balls and pinpoint control. The biggest difference now is he is putting guys away with swings and misses. As a starter he was getting 2 strikes on guys, but not putting them away and very few swings and misses
“Those throws make me sick. But I have a feeling that as long as he’s not throwing them away they’re never going to get better.”
The only way he makes those plays is with the strong arm throw.
That fastball he threw through Nomarrr’s bat was just disgusting.
Phil Youuuuse is a starting pitcher!
Next season!
Wow he took one!
Aceves should be saved for tomorrow incase Jobber has one of his bad outings.
Here is Mr. Bases Empty. I bet he gets a hit.
or not.
NYYfan22 July 24th, 2009 at 12:25 am
Cano makes that across the body throw look so easy.
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Every other player makes throwing like a man look easy.
let phil pitch the 9th
Phil……..just wow, lol. Harold said that pitch to Hairston was a slider – but Phil doesn’t throw one anymore. What was that pitch? It was nasty.
How many pitches did he throw ? 10? 11? I hope Joe lets Phil finish it out……and if he does and Phil saves it, the mediots will be proclaiming that he’s the next closer, even though he projecs as a top of the line starter. Clueless
Notice how “Betsy” was nowhere to be seen while Phil Hughes was pitching….
Carl Crawford went 0-3 today. Along with every other Ray.
Who would give up Hughes for Santana right now straight up? Anyone?
Nick,
Just meant that Cano is what he is. They taught him to be patient, and he did that. For a while. Then he went back to what his his, which is a free swinger imo.
But he’s a professional ball player and he got to the majors because he’s a good player. So if he reverts back to what he is, then chances are it’s still good enough.
As long as he’s not racking up Adam Dunn like strike outs, then I think he’s fine.
Of course, Cano will evolve and get better. The last part of his game to develop his situational hitting. Of course the right thing to do is wait for a good pitch to hit. But maybe that’s not an easy or natural thing for Cano to do.
Here I am, posting from the clubhouse, lol………
I was getting ready for bed – then, saw Phil pitching and had to come back on, lol
Melk
Hinske and Swisher would have caught that.
Someone is going to get one of those shattered bats right in the jugular one day
Hughes ‘slider’ was a cutter
“Notice how “Betsy” was nowhere to be seen while Phil Hughes was pitching….”
That would be funny if you saw Hughes on his blackberry in the dugout.
“Who would give up Hughes for Santana right now straight up? Anyone?”
I’d do it right now. A Johan/CC/Burnett/Joba rotation is different levels of Philthy! I Kid
Betsy, Young Master Hughes is going to be very special…..As you already know……GB, Your appearence may have chased the numb nuts away
That Phil “slider” was a cutter.. unhittable
Billy Beane will ask for a ransom for Holliday………………………So let’s give him Cody Ransom!!!!
So Cano CAN change. But he also is what he is. Like all the other players.
Agreed.
Wow. Speechless. Coke over Hughes in the 9th. Why didn’t Mariano step in for Brother Phil?
Coke to close.
Didn’t he say how nervous he was the last time he pitched the 9th?
Girardi with his lefty/righty crap.
Leave Hughes in. I just don’t get it.
Phil, Phil, Phil, ……………
“Who would give up Hughes for Santana right now straight up? Anyone?”
Only if Santana comes with Bernazard, just for entertainment purposes.
Cano’s career numbers are better at this point of his career by far than Roberto Clemente, who was not the most patient of hitters. 18 years and 621 walks in 10,212 at bats and struck out 1230 times.
Santana is in decline. throwing in the low 90s. small frame susceptible to breaking down.
Halladay is different story.
Hughes is in lol
In Cano’s defense, unlike another young now former 2Bman, who once played for the Yankees, he doesn’t let any offensive struggles negatively affect his play in the field.
Never mind. Happy now.
Makes sense. We have a 3 run lead. Might as well let Coke get some burn.
Save Hughes for tomorrow.
Betsy-
Phil Hughes/You are going for the save
Coke? In the 9th? Is this a 9/80 reference?
one down, two to go!!!
Coke was warming up incase there are extra innings.
Huuuuuuuuuuggghhhhhheessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!
Yussssssse !
Does anyone recall Hughes throwing this many cutters since he’s been moved to the pen? Happy to see him doing his best Mo impersonation.
Does Phil always stretch his back like that? He doesn’t look too comfortable.
This is like a West Coast game except it’s on the East Coast.
Dr Phil! In da rain!
Cust is pissing me off taking all his time.
Clemente was a .326 BA with RISP and a HOF, tough to compare Cano to that.
1 mo
Phil is probably just a little on edge because he heard someone say “Dr. Andrews” in the clubhouse.
Does Phil always stretch his back like that? He doesn’t look too comfortable.
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I always notice him doing that
two down, last one to go…
Go, Hughes and Yanks!!!
HHHHUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHHHHHEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Hughes throwing a cutter, trying to be like Mo
Clemente & Cano both speak (spoke) Spanish…….That’s where the comparison begins & ends..
One strike away.
PHIL IS THE story for tonight.
Also love that Hughes has stripped down the curve so it’s not as arched. He also is burrying it low rather than leaving it over the plate. As well as the rising fastball.
CC + Phil = W
stay with the Hughes Corporation…. don’t rock the boat baby.
Crosby, stops swinging you bumb!
Come on you pesky batter.
So Mike, you’d trade Hughes for Halladay straight up right now? I’m not sure I’d do it. How many pitchers have their best years after 32? I’d say most dominate from 27-32, that means Phil can spend the next 4 years “finding it” and the Yankees will still come out ahead. There’s a lot of innings logged on Halladay’s right arm. Did you watch the Catfish Hunter Yankeeography during the rain delay? He basically ruined his arm in 75 and 76 throwing 51 complete games.
Yankees win!!!
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughes
YYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE!
gg yanks!
grats hughes!
YUSSSSSSSE !!
You da man, Phil~~~
A save for Hughes and seven straight wins…
Long lives the Yanks!!!
Phil’s first save!!
First of… how many?
Yup, definitely worth staying up for!
THE YANKEES WIN!! 2.5 games !!!!
The Phranchise
July 24th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Clemente was a .326 BA with RISP and a HOF, tough to compare Cano to that.
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I said at this stage of their careers….5 years, Clemente had exactly 1 .300 season and no seasons over 60 RBI or 7 home runs. He also had seasons of 18, 13, 23, 31, and 15 walks.
Who knows if the Yanks can hang onto him for his career, but we may have just watched the first save for a future great closer.
For what it’s worth.
2.5 GAMES UP!!!
2.5 up!
Phil Hughes with the save. NO CRAZY FIST PUMPING/CHEST BEATING – take note Papelbum, Jobber, and K-Rod.
Phil Huge, still untouchable.
How many consecutive scoreless inns is that for Hughes?
Nick in SF:
The first of maybe 5 he’ll have in his entire career.
5 saves and hundreds of wins
2009 Hughes = 2007 Jobber.
Nice. 2.5, 2.5, 2.5.
Only about 3 more scoreless innings by Phil to beat Mo’s scoreless streak.
Bedtime!! Good night Yankee people!!!
Tex says Cano is the most unappreciated 2nd baseman. His defense is amazing.
2.5 games ups!!!!!!!
Youuuuuse
Phil Franchise.
NYYfan22
Who knows if the Yanks can hang onto him for his career, but we may have just watched the first save for a future great closer.
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I agree, Hughes is good starting pitcher but a dominant closer. I think it fits his personality better and he seems much more comfortable.
phil hughes, the heir apparent to the great mariano
Todd
July 24th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Clemente & Cano both speak (spoke) Spanish…….That’s where the comparison begins & ends..
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Only one of Clemente’s first 7 seasons came close to Cano’s seasons. I never said that Cano was as great as or would have the same finish, but, I wouldn’t bet against him.
Anyboyd know where one can find situational baseball stats like runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs RBI percentage?
Did Rivera throw this many scoreless innings in his lights out year in 1996? He also throw something like 10 hitless innings that year. We know Mo has thrown something like 25 scoreless innings as a closer but I think it’s more impressive as a set up man because often you’re throwing multiple innings and pitching more situationally.
Its about time this team started getting the credit it deserves.
21 over .500 playing great baseball.
How about some respect from the national media?
jp
phil hughes, the heir apparent to the great mariano
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With only two or three reliable starter? NFW
It seems that the Yankee farm system is fantastic at developing relievers but not so great at developing starters.
I’ll ask again tomorrow. Im tired. Off to bed with a nice 6 hour victory!!!
Wow, Phil, lol – talk about NASTY. How about that curve to the 2nd hitter (forget who it was)? Congrats to Phil on his first save (thanks, MLB, for showing the game)!
Nope, not interested in hearing about Phil to the pen…..and I can not believe how big he is. He’s still the same 6’5, but wow – how broad is Phil? The lower half of his body is incredibly solid – great for a power pitcher
“I agree, Hughes is good starting pitcher but a dominant closer. I think it fits his personality better and he seems much more comfortable.”
Also, Mazzaro has stuff that could easily add up to a butload of wins. Imagine 12 or 15 years from now looking back to this game – when these two were so young in their careers.
Pretty impressive, but as Buster Olney would say, “It was only the A’s.”
Good starters make good relievers. I’m sure CC would make a pretty sweet closer too.
Mariano doesn’t look like he’s going anywhere anytime soon. What’s the rush to replace him?
Not to mention the fact that Phil wants to be a starter and has done nothing yet to prove he can’t succeed at it.
You know how you know you’re a superstar in NY? When you drive in 3 clutch runs and no one is gushing about you at Lohud. Teix another stellar game. He’s had more big games in 1/2 a season than Giambi had in his entire Yankee career.
GB , gotcha, but just saying especially from a patience standpoint over his career he was a .326 hitter with RISP, I would assume the year to year average was fairly close. That is the glaring difference in the comparison. Cano has been in a very good offensive lineup for years and his aggressiveness wouldn’t seem as aggressive if it produced better results in the RISP situations than he does. Not complaining about having him, he’s one of the top 2B talents in the game and a rare talent, but it’s the difference between him and Utley. It’s not talent as I will say RObbie has as much talent, but Utley is able to hit third and is hitting .333 with RISP. Every time they try to move Robbie up in the lineup to run producing spots he struggles. To become an elite top 30 offensive player in all of baseball and a sure fire shot to end as a HOF he needs to take that additional step forward. That’s all. I just say that initial step forward to start the year and then for some reason just stopped doing it.
The Chewbacca Defense
Pretty impressive, but as Buster Olney would say, “It was only the A’s.”
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He doesn’t say that when the RS face them. It would be a fireable offense at ESPN.
Ghost, I’m sorry – I don’t know how you can make that judgment on Phil. You’re going to judge him as a starter right now, at 23, when he’s not fully developed and compare his production to his production as a reliever? I’m sorry, but this is ridiculous. I also don’t get that his makeup is better suited for the pen. Phil’s makeup is outstanding and it plays as a starter OR a reliever.
Also, Mazzaro has stuff that could easily add up to a butload of wins. Imagine 12 or 15 years from now looking back to this game – when these two were so young in their careers.
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Didn’t Mazzaro have a start similar to Hughes last year? The A’s at least will be patient and let him develop into a star – then ship him to the Yankees!
Betsy, met Phil last year, tv adds some pounds and I am just under 6 foot, 6’5″ is a stretch, but is defintitely about 6’3″. He has definitely bulked up though and think about it, he was 20 21 when we first saw him, you simply get bigger and Phil out. I did notice him shaking the coaches hands though, he looked a lot bigger than them.
Yanks magic number to clinch the AL East: 66
Yanks magic number to clinch playoff berth: 64
“Yanks magic number to clinch the AL East: 66
Yanks magic number to clinch playoff berth: 64″
HAHA – love it! Pete better get that into the Journal News notebook for tomorrow!
Mazzaro has decent stuff but is projected as a reliever. Before getting called up he had a 4.91 era in the California league. Second time around in the order when teams haven’t seen someone starts showing their weaknesses.
Betsy, he’s had some great games as a starting pitcher but it’s never been with the same confidence and swagger that he shows in relief. I just think it shows a higher level of comfort.
Until the last month, Phil hasn’t had his full arm strength when he has pitched at the ML level since he pulled the hamstring v. Texas in 2007.
Anyone who thinks that he won’t be a lights out starter needs to re-think.
If anyone can recap the YES post-game, I’d appreciate it -thanks!
MLB guys were pretty complimentary to the Yanks- actually said they were fun to watch, lol. They also loved how Phil was attacking the hitters with a 3 run lead – no futzing around (here’s my best, try and hit it)
Pat M, no question Phil is going to be special……..too bad we’ve got to continue to hear about keeping him in the pen….unbelievable.
The Ghost
Betsy, he’s had some great games as a starting pitcher but it’s never been with the same confidence and swagger that he shows in relief. I just think it shows a higher level of comfort.
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His near no hitter v. Texas in 2007 rebuts your point.
Ghost. he’s still a baby – and don’t forget the Texas and Detroit games this year. Before being put in the pen, he was striking out a LOT of hitters – and walking almost no one. He’s not as good now as a starter as he’s going to be….remember that. He was aggressive in his starts leading into his temporary conversion – patience is what is required with Phil, as with all youngsters.
“His near no hitter v. Texas in 2007 rebuts your point.”
That was awesome. He pulled a muscle or something, right?
Phranchise, Phil is definitely 6’5…….
NYYfan22
Hamstring.
The Phranchise
July 24th, 2009 at 12:50 am
GB , gotcha, but just saying especially from a patience standpoint over his career he was a .326 hitter with RISP, I would assume the year to year average was fairly close. That is the glaring difference in the comparison. Cano has been in a very good offensive lineup for years and his aggressiveness wouldn’t seem as aggressive if it produced better results in the RISP situations than he does. Not complaining about having him, he’s one of the top 2B talents in the game and a rare talent, but it’s the difference between him and Utley. It’s not talent as I will say RObbie has as much talent, but Utley is able to hit third and is hitting .333 with RISP. Every time they try to move Robbie up in the lineup to run producing spots he struggles. To become an elite top 30 offensive player in all of baseball and a sure fire shot to end as a HOF he needs to take that additional step forward. That’s all. I just say that initial step forward to start the year and then for some reason just stopped doing it.
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It took Clemente 6 years to “learn to hit in the clutch”.
Or, with runners in scoring position.
I wish we could have had Kennedy to throw out there as a fifth starter now to see what he could have done, too bad his season is lost. I understand that his stuff is no where near top of the rotation, but if he got back to challenging guys and mixing it up I think he would have proved the doubters wrong this year too and ended up being a viable #4 or #5 pitcher on this team. He started out well in the minors too this year.
“Inauspicious”