Game 98: Athletics at Yankees (updates with Gardner going on disabled list)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 26, 2009 
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YANKEES (59-38)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Ransom 3B
Pitching: RHP Sergio Mitre (1-0, 4.76).
NOTES: Thanks to Ernie Palladino for calling in the lineup. … The 1:05 p.m. game is on YES. … Oakland is starting LHP Dallas Braden (7-8, 3.40). … Yankees are 8-1 on a homestand that ends today. They leave after the game for Florida and open a series with the Rays tomorrow night. … A-Rod is just getting a day off with the team in the midst of playing 17 straight days.
UPDATE, 10:37 p.m.: Brett Gardner is on the disabled list with a broken left thumb. He did it sliding into second base yesterday when he broke up a double play in the first inning. Amazingly, he stayed in the rest of the game, had an RBI triple and made two great catches in the eighth inning.
RHP Jon Albaladejo is at the Stadium. More information later as it becomes available.
UPDATE, 10:42 p.m.: The extra pitcher is here temporarily. They’ll add a position player in the next day or two. There is not another OF on the 40-man roster. The choices would seem to be Austin Jackson, Shelley Duncan or John Rodriguez.
The question is whether they want somebody who can play CF. That would be A-Jax. If they want a thumper, that’s Shelley. Rodriguez has big-league experience but has never played CF in the majors. Maybe they bring back Ramiro Pena, who has been playing some CF in Scranton. But he has only a few games of experience there.
Jackson has not been swinging the ball particularly well of late (.200 in his last 10 games) but has had a good season in Triple-A (.311/.375/.429). Maybe now you see what he can do.
Gardner will be in a cast for two weeks and then they’ll evaluate it. He chipped part of the bone on the base of his thumb.
This is a big blow. Gardner has been a valuable player all season.
Like it or not, A-Rod needs a day off. It will pay dividends for the Rays series.
Why is B. Gardner no longer on the roster? Has he been traded?
Girardi was true to his word. He is resting A-Rod, a good thing in the long run.
agreed on giving arod a day off
2 out of 4 against the A’s aint bad.
Breaking news Brett Gardner traded for Roy Halladay. The league is expected to approve the deal because of the Talent going both ways
The game ain’t over Os. This is still a potent lineup.
2 out of 4 against the A’s aint bad…..
Has the game already been played? If so, how ’bout downloading the highlights on here to show how the Yankees lost the game?
yanks play today, they win today
carl July 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Breaking news Brett Gardner traded for Roy Halladay. The league is expected to approve the deal because of the Talent going both ways
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What is this about Gardner?
geez have the full lineup today minus arod and o’s deems it a loss already wow
From the Globe:
Nick Cafardo reports that the Indians turned down an offer of Clay Buchholz for Victor Martinez according to an NL scout. The Red Sox then countered with a package of Michael Bowden, Justin Masterson, and an outfield prospect, but the Indians turned that down as well.
The Sox overvaluing their prospects again…
story link: http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....le/?page=1
Interesting article on mlb.com. It listed the % of home grown players on each team’s 25 man roster. The Yankees topped the AL w/ 56%.
I’d like to see Swisher get a couple days off and let Hinske play RF. Maybe catch some lightning in a bottle from him for a couple days. Can’t do much worse than Swisher has looked.
My issue is not with resting guys its just with seeing the mug of Cody Ransom in the lineup, guy annoys me to high end. There has got to be better utitlity men than him to fill in on the days that Jeter, Arod, even Cano are out of the lineup.
He is just one of those guys whenever he is at bat you never feel much is going to come of his AB’s, and heaven forbid if he doesn’t field the ball. Ransom would be the last guy I would call a grinder in his play.
Newsflash to Joe G. Its cool to play one or the other, but please never at the same time Ransom and Molina.
Gardner on dl with broken left thumb will wear cast for two weeks
That’s not the RS overvaluing their prospects (although I think they do) that’s just the Indians finding RS prospects unappealing.
BryanHoch Gardner on dl with broken left thumb will wear cast for two weeks
now that sucks
I WANT AJAX I WANT AJAX
Is Shelley Duncan getting called up? I’d rather see him in RF than Swisher.
Do you call up Jackson temporarily and allow him to get a few hacks at the ML level?
I say you do, but if you don’t, you need to bring up a Shelley Duncan (unless of course we’re satisfied with the progress Pena has made in the OF).
Bringing up Pena and Duncan (or Miranda) and sending down Ransom would be wonderful, but only if Pena is ready.
ajax better not leave today!!! im trying to get his autograph here in toledo this evening!
Albalaterrible is up
ok bring him for tb, yank in ohio, YOU SCARE ME
whats that supposed to mean teddy?
Interesting the Rays roster is only %28 homegrown. They’ve made a lot smart trades. But that’s rarely discussed. Most of the media act as if most of their players are from their system.
I didn’t think the Yankees would be second in all of baseball.
You won’t see Ajax until at least after the trade deadline. If you bring him up now and he looks totally lost for the next couple days it might hurt his trade value.
sorry a joke
that you get to keep in ohio to get his autograph
Roger Maris – The REAL HR King July 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
You won’t see Ajax until at least after the trade deadline. If you bring him up now and he looks totally lost for the next couple days it might hurt his trade value.
What?
Carrying over from the last thread-
Halladay can demand a trade at the end of this season if he is traded now.
Players who signed their current contract before the end of 2006 (the rule was changed in 2007 for contracts entered into in 2007 and after) can demand a trade if they are traded before the end of their contract.
That applies to Halladay since he signed his contract in March, 2006.
Link:
http://zozone.mlblogs.com/arch....._abou.html
Depends on what they define “home grown” as. Does it mean drafted by that team or does it say how many years a player had to spend in that teams farm system to be considered home grown? The Rays traded for alot of players over the years that spent years developing in their system but weren’t drafted by them.
ah lol. ya i work for the hens up in the suites and todays the only day in the series i have off
Shelly can’t play centerfield. There really is nobody we need to call up more than Austin Jackson at this point. POSSIBLY Ramiro Pena, but Austin is the better defensive player AND has the upside.
Call him up now!
Tough break for GGBG.
I would think Duncan gets the call.
You don’t call Jackson up unless he’s going to play everyday.
UPDATE, 10:37 p.m.: Brett Gardner is on the disabled list with a broken left thumb. He did it sliding into second base yesterday when he broke up a double play in the first inning. Amazingly, he stayed in the rest of the game, had an RBI triple and made two great catches in the eighth inning.
RHP Jon Albaladejo is at the Stadium. More information later as it becomes available.
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Is it possible that Albaladejo will serve as Joba’s “caddie” during August/September? That is, would the Yankees allow Albaladejo to pitch the first 3 innings of each of Joba’s starts (except vs Boston) and then Joba comes on in the 4th inning to pitch four more innings and then turn it over to the bullpen.
An arrangement like that would help to stretch Joba’s workload so that he can complete the season without hitting his innings limit. The big benefit of an arrangement like that is that it allows Joba to pitch every 5th day without missing any days (staying on the 5 day rhythm) and still pitch the important 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th innings on those days.
JPB: There is not a chance in the world that happens. Albaladejo? He’s a AAA pitcher. Here’s here for one day.
If Halladay demands a trade he gives up his “no trade” and can be sent anywhere. That’s not going to happen.
They didn’t really call Albaladejo up, did they? What’s that 17 pitchers? With good starting pitching 11 pitchers is more than enough and you can probably get by with ten. Carrying 12 is just stupid and adding another would be beyond that. Melancon hasn’t pitched sijnce July 10th.
If I were the yanks, I’ll call up AJAX and let him play CF while Melky in RF and Swish on Bench. everyone would be happy here
Ugh, read Pete’s next update:
The extra pitcher is here temporarily. They’ll add a position player in the next day or two. There is not another OF on the 40-man roster. The choices would seem to be Austin Jackson, Shelley Duncan or John Rodriguez.
Could Albaladejo be there to take the place of someone who is about to be traded?
Only CF is Melky now. Unless they don’t mind him playing him everyday. If they do then it will be Duncan or Rodriguez. Otherwise it will be Jackson or Pena.
why would the Yankees call up Ajax when he’s been in a slump lately? That would blow up in their face in a second
“If Halladay demands a trade he gives up his “no trade” and can be sent anywhere. That’s not going to happen.”
Are you so sure of that that you would give up Joba or Hughes for 2 and a half months of Halladay?
And even if you are, do you think Cashman would be?
Call up Austin Jackson and let him get a taste of the bigs, I don’t expect anything special and please no retreads like Shelly Duncan or John Rodrigues, minor league hacks.
Gardner was playing CF, call up Jackson and let him play it with Melky, ala Gardner was doing. This isn’t brain surgery.
Wave,
It seems like a longshot he would demand a trade from a contending team unless he just hates the clubhouse.
If it was the Yankees, I doubt he would demand a trade to leave. I also think that since he has no trade protection, if he demands a trade, he loses the NT protection.
That used to be the case within the CBA. I don’t know though if that rule has also been changed.
Calling up Albaladejo was smart insurance.
Mitre is starting today. You don’t want to burn out the bullpen going in Tampa.
If Mitre leaves early – Alba gives them 3 innings then it’s back to AAA.
JPB: There is not a chance in the world that happens. Albaladejo? He’s a AAA pitcher. Here’s here for one day.
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That makes sense, but I wonder if there is another minor league pitcher we can call up for the next 6 weeks to go through the opponents order one time every 5th day to help us with our Joba/innings problem. I don’t like the idea of skipping over him every 5th day because then he might lose his sharpness. Nor do I like the idea of moving him to the bullpen where he would get out of the ‘every 5th day’ rhythm. Shutting him down is a problem if we don’t have him as a starter in the playoffs…we need to find a way to extend him.
I’m kind of through with Shelly. He’s a defensive nightmare and they need to spell Damon and have someone besides Swish playing everyday in RF. So, if they are replacing Gardner, think defense rather than thumping. Ajax isn’t as fast as Gardner but defensively I think he’s at least a match, and reportedly with a better arm. For two or three weeks, it’s not the end of the world and might be a little fun. (Unless the Yankees have gotten so cheap they are concerned about starting Ajax’s MLB time early).
“The Sox overvaluing their prospects again…”
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If I were the Indians, I would have taken Buchholz for VMart immediately.
I like VMart but he is always an injury risk and could be relegated to 1B or DH duties in a year or two.
Buchholz is a promising young starter who can also be flipped to another team if the Indians don’t value him as much as Boston does (or some other teams.)
Tough blow to lose Gardner, who is easily the team’s best defensive outfielder.
Jackson is scuffling in Scranton right now, and Pena has only played a handful of games at CF.
It’ll be interesting to see who they bring up.
AJ Burnett can tell Cashman everything he knows about Halladay. I don’t think there will be any secrets on that front.
Not saying the Yankees will get him. However, if they make a move, they will know what the guy wants to do prior to doing the deal.
I’d call up Austin Jackson and play him against some lefties right now. They need a RH hitting OF and if he is a good defender, that alone is a positive.
For 2 weeks, its a good time to use him as a stop gap and see if he can help.
“why would the Yankees call up Ajax when he’s been in a slump lately? That would blow up in their face in a second”
They aren’t exactly asking him to be Torii Hunter in CF for them, but to split time with Melky, who else plays CF if he is not called up because certiainly not Shelly Duncan or John Rodrigues or am I missing something. No one expects Jackson to be Ken Griffey in his prime if he is called up, but to spell time with Cabrera in CF, since Melky is the only CF on the roster currently.
The Indians turned down Laptops for VMart? Hmmm. Are they looking to widen the deal?
Tough blow to lose Gardner, who is easily the team’s best defensive outfielder.
Jackson is scuffling in Scranton right now, and Pena has only played a handful of games at CF.
It’ll be interesting to see who they bring up.
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If its anyone other than Pena they will have to find a way to put him on the 40 man roster. Thats not problematic now, but could be if we also make a trade soon and send out prospects (who aren’t currently on the 40 man roster) and take on picther(s) who will need to be added to the 40 man roster.
There has been a lot of talk of lately, of packaging a contract with a name player to lessen the amount of prospects the Yankees might give up.
Besides the obvious Halliday and Rios what other contracts could the Yankees absorb to land them a good player?
Byrnes with the Diamondbacks stands out who else?
I wouldn’t trade Victor Martinez for Clay Buchholz.
You don’t trade the leader of your team, which Victor is in Cleveland, unless you get a lot in return.
Victor can still play and has a lot of good years left.
They get back Sizemore next year, keep Victor and Cliff Lee, will have young OF’s like LaPorta and Choo flanking Grady, and they are not that far from rebuilding.
You trade Victor for lesser parts, you are starting over. I don’t think the Indians need to start over to fix what’s broken.
well f Cervelli was hitting 190 in double a,but hit better in mlb, granted small sample
we also need good defense outfielders against tb as well
Wow, he played pretty well with a broken finger.
I was wondering when someone would hit the DL. Felt like too long of a healthy streak.
SJ44 and 86-
I don’t know how his no-trade clause interacts with the right to demand a trade. I haven’t seen it discussed, and I’m certainly no expert on the pre-2007 CBA.
However, I’d be worried that a player who could demand a trade could use the possibility to leverage a renegotiation of his contract in the off-season.
If I were the Phillies, I’d take the position that the flag flies forever and I’ll worry about next year in the off-season.
I don’t think the Yanks would take the same approach.
Eric Byrnes is out for the year with an injury.
“Wow, he played pretty well with a broken finger.”
They don’t call him Gritty Gutty Brett Gardner for nothing.
Bucchholz for Victor Martinez, without any other significant players going to the Indians, is a ludicrous trade proposal.
Martinez is an all star caliber player who while not a great catcher – still an catch.
He has immense value – for both his bat alone and for this position.
Bucchholz is nearly 25 and has had almost no success in the majors outside that no-hitter.
He’s not remotely close to enough for Martinez.
Boston Dave. of course you would take that trade you must be a Boston fan..
tarheelyank-
I don’t think you’ll see the Yanks continue in the business of absorbing an out-of-the-money contract in order to get another player they want. I think those days are over.
Hi, my name is Austin Jackson…nice to meet you.
His time has come…even if it is only two-three weeks.
He can’t do any worse than Melky did in his first cup of coffee.
If he does come up…I hope that knowledgeable Yankees fans do not get overly concerned if he doesn’t do well offensively.
I am not advicating trading Joba or Hughes for Halladay, just pointing out the rule as it relates to demending a trade. If you do it you foreit your no-trade rights. If he agrees to go somewhere now it’s for at least a year and a half.
AJax for the bench and defense and running would be my choice too.
Those of you worried about the bullpen being burned out should pay attention. The bullpen is not getting much work at all. Melancon hasn’t even pitched since the All-Star break. Coke has pitched once in four days. Hughes has pitched once in four days. Mariano has had three days off. No one through even 20 pitches yesterday.
bring up duncan, hes been playing good. melky can and has been before an everyday cf. especially the way damon has been lately, dont need to bring up jackson who has been struggling lately.
I wouldn’t touch guys with bad contracts who can’t play.
If I could get Rios? I’d take a shot on that deal.
Guys like Wells, etc? No chance. Those days are over for the Yankees and have been for quite sometime.
The more I think about it, the more I would call up Jackson now and put him in the mix.
Worst case, he’s a defensive replacement in the later innings and that’s not a bad thing with the corner OF defense as bad as it is with the Yankees.
Well, IMO, the Indians need to move VMart for something. I just don’t see Cleveland making the playoffs next year with or without him.
He is a free agent after next season.
So they trade him now or trade him in the offseason.
if Buchholz and Bard are the key pieces in a trade that’s good enough to get Halladay, then Buchholz is pretty close to enough to get an injury risk catcher.
It depends on what the Yankees want to do…
If the don’t care about putting Damon/Melky in CF so Shelly Duncan can play left at times (since he is, in my opinion, a really good bat to have in the lineup) than that is fine.
If they don’t feel comfortable about putting damon in CF, then bring up the kid and see what ajax can do.
And! I say you put him hitting lead-off or behind jeter and just keep jeter at lead-off. This would insure him to get some great pitches to hit, and maybe get him off to a good start.
BUT, YES! this is a huuuuuuge blow for the yankees. Now, we have lost our speed threat.
At least it’s only for probably 3 weeks.
that Yankee OF (Def) was bad to begin with, for a player who stinks Cody sure gets a lot of PT
Damon in CF…Noooooooooo
“However, I’d be worried that a player who could demand a trade could use the possibility to leverage a renegotiation of his contract in the off-season.”
This is the real issue with Halladay’s ability to request a trade.
Roy has all the leverage here – both with Toronto and with his next team.
He is going to get a huge extension out of this – if he wants to do that rather than test the market. It’s just a matter of when the extension gets done.
You’re a team and have just given up 4-5 of your best young players for Halladay. In the offseason he says either give me a 5yr/$125M extension or trade me what do you do? You are stuck either way.
If you are forced to trade him you will get pennies on the dollar.
And Halladay may lose his NTC but he’ll be a free agent in one years time.
He holds all the cards. And any team trading for him has to acknowledge that to themselves.
That means you’ll have to pay the Jays in terms of talent. And pay Halladay in terms of money.
Now that is Gardner is down, its time to get Halladay and Rios for Joba, jackson, Romine
The Yanks will need a CF back-up for Melky.
I don’t see the Yanks being happy with Damon in that role – it would limit their line-up flexibility.
That would argue for AJax getting the call, although I think it would be better for AJax if he could stay in AAA a little longer.
“That means you’ll have to pay the Jays in terms of talent. And pay Halladay in terms of money.”
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well, that fact limits the # of teams that can play the Halladay Sweepstakes, thus removing quite a bit of the leverage the Jays have.
It comes down to whether or not the Jays want to trade him or not. The Jays don’t get to dictate what they get in return. The market dictates that (highest bidder among the select few teams that can bid).
jfan…that deal wouldnt work for just halladay. why do you think it would work for both? throw in hughes and they would maybe think about it.
“Bucchholz is nearly 25 and has had almost no success in the majors outside that no-hitter.”
He threw that no hitter and all of a sudden he went from hyped to godlike in Bean eater land, the reality is if you go over his numbers and Joba’s numbers as starters. Chamberlain is way better so far than him, yet you would think Joba was chopped liver and Bustholz was the next coming of Cy Young.
I would see if they could catch lightening in a bottle with AJack.
jfan
July 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Now that is Gardner is down, its time to get Halladay and Rios for Joba, jackson, Romine
Ding-dong
Mr. Gammons…hello,
Grim Reaper…ready to go?
I think they call Pana back up.
Melk plays center
just call me up
“if Buchholz and Bard are the key pieces in a trade that’s good enough to get Halladay, then Buchholz is pretty close to enough to get an injury risk catcher.”
The situations aren’t remotely the same because Halladay has that no trade and because Toronto doesn’t want to trade him in the AL East.
Both those factors are artificially driving down Halladay’s price.
Martinez is an all star player who can catch. Hughes alone wouldn’t be enough for him.
To even propose Buchholz alone for Martinez is to treat Buchholz like he’s some kind of given – he’s not. He’s not even close.
He was racked around last year – and that wasn’t due to injury. It’s great he’s dominating AAA but he still hasn’t shown much at the major league level.
He’d have value in a package but not by himself.
I just searched the CBA. If Halladay was traded and demanded a trade, he loses his contractual no-trade clause and instead can designate no more than SIX teams to which he would refuse a trade.
He has total control now and can in essence designate up to 29 teams he could refuse a trade to. Common sense says he would not waive that right and then put his 2010 season in someone else’s hands.
“He threw that no hitter and all of a sudden he went from hyped to godlike in Bean eater land, the reality is if you go over his numbers and Joba’s numbers as starters.”
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He was a very highly rated prospect prior to the no-hitter. His offspeed stuff is outstanding (fastball is at least average).
If the Yankees offered Joba for VMart, I think the Indians should take that in a heartbeat.
My case is more so that the Indians should look to move VMart for the highest bid.
He is a free agent after next season and a catcher entering his 30′s (coming off injuries the previous season) isn’t too much for a top pitching prospect IMO).
I tend to doubt they are going to call up Jackson but I guess you never know.
They could also bump Ransom off the 40-man roster and recall Pena to return.
Ransom is pretty worthless at this point and I don’t suspect teams are going to fall ll over themselves to claim him through waivers.
With GGBG gone for a few weeks, Rios becomes interesting. Halliday is not happening, IMO. Going to YS for the first time today–got a real steal on last minute Legends seats and used FF miles to fly in this AM from the Burgh…
It’s actually sunny…weather.com said rain.
ajax isnt ready yet. i’d call up shelley for a RH bat off the bench he has 25 home runs in AAA. if they still, for some odd reason, don’t want to put nady on the 60-day DL pena will be in tampa tomorrow.
“Martinez is an all star player who can catch. Hughes alone wouldn’t be enough for him. ”
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Yadier Molina is an all star player who can catch. I wouldn’t trade Hughes for him (and that’s no knock on Molina).
We disagree on VMart’s value I guess. He’s 30 with 1 season left on his deal, a poor defensive catcher who can barely run, and carries at least some risk of injury.
86, good work.
But, if the Blue Jays trade him without offering the acquiring team a window to negotiate, might Doc not go to that team in the hopes of winning a WS, then, in the off-season, decide he wants to renegotiate his contract after all? Isn’t that at least a worry the acquiring team would have?
“If the Yankees offered Joba for VMart, I think the Indians should take that in a heartbeat.”
BD,
That’s the point. How can you possibly value Bucchholz in any way on the same plane as Joba?
Joba has made 30 big league starts and has an ERA over that time of 3.42. On top of that he’s dominated out of the pen.
That’s what I mean with Bucchholz. People are treating him as if he’s had that kind of major league success.
He hasn’t.
Yes he’s got good stuff (with a very straight fastball…).
But to date his major league performance has been closer to Ian Kennedy’s than Joba’s.
Bucchholz is still a prospect. That’s what he is. Joba isn’t. He’s a young player who while still developing has had significant major league success.
Only a Boston prospect would be discussed in these inflated terms.
more importantly, I think the Indians need to look at 2011 and beyond. They are talented but I don’t think they are a playoff team as early as next season.
If you can get a Hughes, Joba, or even a Buchholz for a guy who will simply help you be a .500 team next season, you do it.
I’d take anyone but Duncan. I really hate Duncan.
“BD,
That’s the point. How can you possibly value Bucchholz in any way on the same plane as Joba?”
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how is that the point? I never compared Buchholz to Joba.
the point I was trying to make is that the Indians should trade VMart.
IF they could get Joba, DO IT! If they can get more than Buchholz do that too.
But to dismiss Buchholz as if he has relatively no value is crazy.
Toronto is asking for an arm and a leg for Halladay yet Buchholz holds probably 60% of the value required to get that deal done.
john rodriguez is on the DL at scranton. so that leaves him out
“We disagree on VMart’s value I guess. ”
We do. But more so we disagree on Bucchholz value. That’s the larger variable.
He hasn’t had close to the major league success Joba has. He hasn’t had the major league success Hughes has.
He’s a prospect. And he’s almost 25.
“Ransom is pretty worthless at this point and I don’t suspect teams are going to fall ll over themselves to claim him through waivers.”
That may be the case but Joe G. Doesn’t seem to feel so, because whenever Arod is off once a week, along with Jeter and Cano getting a rest this aberration of a major leaguer gets playing time.
I watch Ransom and cringe when he plays, if he comes up and men are on base he ought to just bunt already.
I remember seeing some of the plays and the range Pena had in the infield and then this sack of turd Ransom came back and Pena was sent down, uugh enough to make you sick.
If the Yankees offered Joba for VMart, I think the Indians should take that in a heartbeat.
My case is more so that the Indians should look to move VMart for the highest bid.
He is a free agent after next season and a catcher entering his 30’s (coming off injuries the previous season) isn’t too much for a top pitching prospect IMO).
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Boston Dave,
Vistor Martinez is one of the core memebers of the Indian team. If they trade him it will send a message to the rest of the members of the core (Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and Travis Hafner) and they will all want out of there. The Indians want to keep the core together and make a run in the next few years. They simply aren’t going to trade any of the core players at this time…check back in a year or two though.
Bucholtz is 25,correct?
IMO…MLB has the book on Shelly and you get the feeling that the Yankees know that.
As for the 40 man roster…Nady and pending Dr. Andrews assessment, Wang, could go on the 60 day DL.
Also, guys like Anthony Claggett; Christian Garcia; and Edwar Ramirez could be designated to make room.
Indians definitely dont hav a playoff team next year. 2011 will be a pretty good team tho as long as everything plays out like it should. good catcher in aa-carlos santana, good middle infield prospects, and matt laporta. they hav pretty speedy OF in the minors but not much power at all
go get mark kotsay
yes he is 25
“I’d take anyone but Duncan. I really hate Duncan.”
Join the club, I don’t see the love affair with this guy because he crushes the ball in AAA, he stunk in the bigs and rightfully will get back there hopefully with another club and not the Yanks, as for John Rodrigues, whatever, another stiff. There is a reason why these guys live in the minors and don’t just pass through for a quick stop.
If I had my way Pena and Cervelli would both be on the roster, playing back up positions at the expense of Ransom and Molina, but status quo prevents that from happening.
I don’t think the Yankees will call up Jackson but I think it’s the right move.
Part of the reason Cabrera and Gardner have had success this year is that they aren’t overexposed. They get their share of playing time and when one starts slumping the other one gets more starts. I don’t like the idea of Melky starting in CF every day for a month.
Call up Jackson, we know he can handle CF defensively. He gets to start vs lefties and Melky can start vs righties. Both Cabrera and Jackson can also be used as pinch runners and defensive replacements at all 3 OF positions.
It would also be good for the Yankees to see how Jackson fares against major league competition so they have more data to evaluate whether he gets a spot on the major league team next year.
With Hinske on the team I don’t see a spot for Duncan or Rodriguez. Pena might work but I don’t really trust him in CF.
Gardner, if all goes well, should be back in a month perhaps a bit longer. Two weeks in the cast, another week or two to rehab his hand and a few rehab games in the minors. That’s a nice amount of time to see how good Jackson is.
Starter “A” 31 starts 9-3, 3.43 ERA, 1.399 WHIP, turns 24 in September.
Starter “B” 20 starts 5-11, 5.52 ERA, 1.610 WHIP, turns 25 in August.
Need I will you which one is Joba and which one is the overhyped love child of Peter Gammons and Jeanne Yawkey?
Who took my HR swing? Can I please have it back? Seriously, it’s not funny.
yanks are willin to part with joba!
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....-halladay/
“But to dismiss Buchholz as if he has relatively no value is crazy. ”
I never said he has “relatively no value” in any way. I said by himself he is does not have value equivalent to Martinez.
In your comments you are treating Joba, Hughes, and Bucchholz as if they have the same value. e.g. “If you can get a Hughes, Joba, or even a Buchholz for a guy who will simply help you be a .500 team next season, you do it.” That’s implying they are on the same caliber of player and have similar value.
They don’t. And that’s because they’ve had wildly different levels of major league success.
Buchholz has a ton of value. But he’s a prospect and a deal in which one prospect is going back for an all star player who is still cheaply signed for 1 1/2 years is an enormous amount of risk for the Indians.
Which is why the Sox proposed the deal and the indians had turned it down.
If Buchholz had the MLB track record Joba had that would be a terrific return for Martinez.
But he hasn’t.
Thanks SJ
I saw Byrnes on the 15 day, I didn’t know it was a year ending injury.
I agree about Wells , because of length and amount.
A contract like Byrnes 1 and half years about 15 million the Yankees could swing. Consider it a posting fee. Release the player if he doesn’t fit.
I am not sure the right situation exists, that’s why I was asking. I would consider Hafner to be like Wells too much,too long .
Jorge Vasquez!!
JK
Don’t they need a guy with some speed?
Bad news about Gardy. Props to him for still playing with a broken finger. If I had broken my finger, I would have been on the floor in a fetal position crying for my Mom.
I wouldn’t bring Ajax up, especially since he’s struggling right now. Bring up Pena and dump Ransom. They should have done that from the get go.
Sounds like the Sox also offered Masterson, Bowden and an OF prospect for Martinez. The Indians turned it down.
Martinez is a stud, there’s no reason the Indians should trade him unless they get a king’s ransom back.
I don’t know how the Yankees could consider trading Joba after his last two starts. If Cash does that deal, it proves that he’s a liar and that you can’t believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
“Yanks are willin to part with joba!
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....-halladay/”
All I needed to see was two words John Heyman and I saw all I needed to. That guy makes up posts on his cute little Tweets to draw attention to himself like a high school girl.
At least Wells is still a player that improves the Yankees at a position. Hafner would serve no purpose on the Yankees roster. I wouldn’t eat Wells’ contract unless it came along with Halladay in exchange for Swisher and Igawa.
“yanks are willin to part with joba!”
Which is based on a Heyman tweet. Might as well come from Oliver Stone.
Laura,
They aren’t going to dump Ransom, they’ll get rid of the 13th pitcher. Probably Melancon considering how little he gets to pitch.
I don’t really see any alternative to calling up Jackson. I don’t want Melky exposed as the starting CF, the Yanks need a second CF on the roster.
Pena hasn’t had enough experience in the outfield and he isn’t as good a hitter as Jackson. I’d really love to see what Ajax can do and at the very least he can hold it down defensively.
Melky is firmly planted in CF until Gardner returns.
John Rodriquez is not the worst short term move until the trading deadine sorts itself out.
Ramiro Pena is still learning the OF at AAA and will be a September callup along with Cervelli.
Shelley Duncan’s best hope is that he gets included as a piece in a deal.
I said it when the trade talk started and I’ll say it again, I don’t think Joba for Halladay straight up is a fair deal for the Yankees.
The last thing the Yankees need is a catcher.
Gardner is a tough blow to take, not just because he’s been so good, but because I think he helped make Melky better, too.
I’m not sure if I should be impressed he ended up staying in the game or not…
This one hurts.
“I’d really love to see what Ajax can do and at the very least he can hold it down defensively.”
I would too. However, I’m afraid that Ajax will get up here, stink up the joint and then be negatively affected by his experience (mentally). You have to be careful with the kids. They can be fragile.
I think Yankees want to win WS at any cost this year as it is the first year in New YS. Also, they want ot break the draught of 8 years of no WS.
So, I would not be surprised if they go all out to trade for Halladay even if they have to overpay.
As much as I love Joba, I will give him up for Doc. If the history is an indication, Joba will be an injury prone pitcher during his career. I think that is the fear because of which he does not throw hard as a starter most of the times.
Even if we win one WS during this year and next year, it is worth the price.
I also believe that it won’t be just Doc in the deal. Downs and/or Rios will be part of the deal. Gardner getting hurt makes somewhat difficult as now they can not offer Melky or Gardner in the deal.
As far as the economics are concerned, if Rios is coming, then Swisher has to go to balance part of the cost. Swihser still has value and Jays can trade him in the off season.
With Doc, CC and AJ fronting the starting rotation, the chances of us winning WS will be pretty high.
I don’t really see any alternative to calling up Jackson. I don’t want Melky exposed as the starting CF, the Yanks need a second CF on the roster.
Pena hasn’t had enough experience in the outfield and he isn’t as good a hitter as Jackson. I’d really love to see what Ajax can do and at the very least he can hold it down defensively.
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Patrick,
I think you’re right. Jackson is the only guy I feel comfortable putting in as a late game defensive replacement for any of the outfielders. I say bring him up and use him as a defensive replacement for the next five weeks.
Gardner broke his left thumb so, even if he can’t hit by September 1st, he should rejoin the team at that date. Yanks can use him as a defensive replacement in left field and a pinch runner the entire month of September when the rosters are expanded.
“Gardner is a tough blow to take, not just because he’s been so good, but because I think he helped make Melky better, too.
I’m not sure if I should be impressed he ended up staying in the game or not…
This one hurts.”
Which is one of the reasons Austin should be called up, not to hit the baseball, but to split time with Melky, play a solid CF and not have Melky be the only option in center, unless we want to dare count Damon. I think watching Johnny in LF this season is enough comedic value.
Its really easy Austin Jackson up, splits time with Melky, we know what happens when Melky is out there everday, day after day, he forgets to play baseball it seems. Him splitting time with Jackson will benefit both. I don’t expect offense from Jackson in the form of raking the ball, as long as he roams CF, makes the plays and keep Melky on his toes as Gardner does then that is enough.
What’s the over/under on Melky’s batting average between now and the day Gardner returns?
I’ll say .240.
Yankees On Deck is pretty good this week.
Behind the scenes in the YES truck and hanging with camera dude.
And Mo can’t juggle.
Big Breaking News:
Kay eats mayo.
Emerill Lagasse Centrstage.
Wed @ 11:00 pm. Be There!
How is this any different than calling up a AA catcher hitting .190 at the time to replace an all star in Posada and the best backup C in the game in Molina?
To me, its a no brainer you call up Austin right now.
He’s a better defender than Swisher, Damon or Hinske. Meaning, you are covered in the late innings defensively with another good OF on the field.
You spot his AB’s and use him smartly. As they did Pena and Cervelli.
This is why you have a farm system. To dip into it for temporary help.
“As much as I love Joba, I will give him up for Doc. ”
I wouldn’t. Joba is 23. Doc is what, 32? You might get 10 good years out of Joba. How many good years does Doc have left? 2, 3? This notation that we have to win the WS this year because we dropped 1.5B on a new stadium is a fallacy. We can win it all with the team we have now if we add a 5th starter to replace Wang. That does not have to be Doc.
“This is why you have a farm system. To dip into it for temporary help.”
But what if AJax isn’t ready, SJ44? You may be doing more harm than good.
One other point….
I find it pretty amazing that Brett Gardner made two great catches in CF yesterday and hit a triple with a broken thumb.
That is one tough kid.
He’s probably out a month. Let’s hope for a speedy recovery.
Theo Epstein dangled Buchholz to Cleveland to judge their interest.
In reality, he’s reluctant to deal Buchholz with Wakefield and Matsuzaka out and reliance on Penny and Smoltz to hold up the back end of the rotation.
If Ajax comes up he will get his playing time as a defensive replacement late in games, not as a platoon player with Melky.
“What’s the over/under on Melky’s batting average between now and the day Gardner returns?
I’ll say .240.”
I hate to say it but, it will be Swisheriffic, in the .230 range if he is out there day after day, every day. Moreover Damon will be in the OF all game, even late game leads for us, with his beautiful arm in left. Jackson has to come up. That much would seem obvious given the situation and the requirements of it.
“As much as I love Joba, I will give him up for Doc. ”
I wouldn’t. Joba is 23. Doc is what, 32? You might get 10 good years out of Joba. How many good years does Doc have left? 2, 3? This notation that we have to win the WS this year because we dropped 1.5B on a new stadium is a fallacy. We can win it all with the team we have now if we add a 5th starter to replace Wang. That does not have to be Doc.
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I agree!!! Halladay will be a free agent after the 2010 season. If we need him we can sign him then…and still have Joba on the team.
Damn, that’s not something I want to hear about Gardner.
He’s a pivotal part to the Yankees success. Hope he can make a speedy recovery.
I’m torn on whether or not to call up Jackson.
I’ve been saying all season that Jackson should have the entire year at AAA…and if this was September, I wouldn’t really have a problem with calling Jackson up, but it’s still only (late) July.
This makes Nady’s injury hurt even more, of course…
Cal, I see your point…but we need more than an automatic out at the plate, and Jackson right now is a complete unknown at this level.
Then again, Cervelli was also an unknown…
Eh. The way this season has gone, some sort of solution will materialize.
Laura,
Did anybody think Cervelli would be ready?
There comes a time when you have to find out if he’s ready.
Similar to when Melky was put in LF in 2006 when Matsui went down.
If Austin Jackson is the prosect they think he is, there is no reason why he can’t come up here, play acceptable D in the OF, get 10-20 AB’s, and help the team in the next month.
“What’s the over/under on Melky’s batting average between now and the day Gardner returns?
I’ll say .240.”
I go higher .280 he will get more LH at bats with Gardner out
Toronto wouldn’t want Gardner unless the Yankees were eating Wells’ contract which none of us expect them to do. He could always be in the deal as a “player to be named later”.
AS I’ve said all along, thekey question I have is if ownership has told Ricciardi to shed long term financial commitments. Do you realize Torotno has $ 81 Million plus committed for next year? And that only covers EIGHT players. They are drawing very small crowds and might have a disaster on their hands.
http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....tense.html according to this story the m’s were willing to deal washburn, for melkman and gardy, obviously before gardner was injured. would you guys do that trade? i would, and call up a-jax.
I don’t know if this was mentioned already, but John Rodriguez hasn’t played since June 27th. He’s on the DL.
well rebecca you make a good point
he gotton 391 at bats in triple a
if jackson called up leet him play everyday
if he coming in september is a month early gotta hurt him
I’d love to see them call up Jackson. I just don’t think it’s going to happen.
He’s probably not ready yet but he can still help the team. Very similar tools that Gardner has with a little more power.
James: I’d prefer to keep one of Melky/Gardner and actually have a ML-ready CF. But that would not be the worst deal the Yankees had ever made.
Imagine if Damon could play CF and Matsui could play left?
Dare to Dream!
Yanks may lead the league in OFers that can’t technically play OF.
according to this story the m’s were willing to deal washburn, for melkman and gardy, obviously before gardner was injured. would you guys do that trade? i would, and call up a-jax.
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Who would play centerfield for us after that deal? Hinske?
So I ask you guys this question if they don’t call up Jackson then who plays CF or is a defensive replacement for Johnny Damon late on in the games. I mean we can’t have Eric Hinske as our only OF off the bench, that is pretty weak.
All signs point to Jackson, I’m looking at it more from the defensive standpoint than the offense. I just don’t trust Johnny Damon late in the games and close. He is a liability.
Swisher is already bad enough in RF, the Yankees have little choice but to call up Jackson at least for the defensive purposes more than anything.
I don’t buy that Washburn trade rumor. With Ichiro and Franklin Guttierez why would Seattle want Gardner and Melky? They wouldn’t. Plus, just 7.5 games out is a little early to sell off one of your top three starters.
Can’t Hinske play third? If it’s only once a week or once every 9 or 10 days, why not?
“I wouldn’t. Joba is 23. Doc is what, 32? You might get 10 good years out of Joba. How many good years does Doc have left? 2, 3?”
The unkown here is how many productive years we will get from Joba. While Doc has provend he can be counted on healthwise, Joba’s history does not gurantee that. Did any one think we will be in this state with Wang? And many thought he was our ace before getting hurt.
With DOc we probably can win 2 WS in the next five years (I believe they will extend him by three years) and for that I will trade any one (not a bunch) from the farm. I rather win WS once in three or four years instead of losing out for 8 years (current steak) hanging on to prospects who may never pan out.
One way or another, this will be an interesting week with J.P. Ricciardi’s self imposed deadline on Halladay being Tuesday and Friday being the trading deadline itself.
Cashman will be in the mix regardless but how or when will not be known until he actually strikes like he usually does.
“Can’t Hinske play third? If it’s only once a week or once every 9 or 10 days, why not?”
I heard he was dreadful over there and never really has a handle of the position, would be nice if he could on days that ARod was off, but doesn’t seem he really can.
i understand the cf situation would be scarce, but i think that having 5 legitimate starter and having a line up that can still hit, could win us the world series. just my opinion.
Does anyone else want david robertson off this team? And i really hope they bring up AJAX, ill be at monday and tuesdays games at the trop and i want to see ajax’s first game.
That’s why that ridiculous deal was turned down.
Teams can ask for anything they want. When the phone hangs up on them over the stupid proposals, such as the Washburn one, GM’s can’t be surprised.
That’s the problem with many teams today. They just look to fleece the other guy rather than look to make a deal that works for both parties.
Its why teams like the Yankees have very few real trade partners.
One thing we have seen since Cashman took over full control…..
They don’t get fleeced in deals. If the deal isn’t something that works for both parties, the Yankees pass.
I think they will make a deal, perhaps two, this week.
If they do, you can guarantee it makes sense for both teams.
It won’t be the Yankees assuming the financial burden of players AND giving up half their team for that “honor”.
and i dont think a-jax will be as productive this year as the melk man or gardy, but i dont think he’d be an automatic out.
“We can win it all with the team we have now if we add a 5th starter to replace Wang.”
Other than CC and AJ, who will gurantee a win in the playoffs? Pettitte, Joba, Mitre? Good luck.
I know they called up Cervelli because they had no other choice, but if the Yankees did that then I have to say, my money would be on them calling up Jackson.
I know this sounds odd, and perhaps a bit delusional, but this season things have always seemed to end up working out, anyway.
Like, we thought Cervelli would be an automatic out and instead he holds his own.
When Cody Ransom got hurt we got a look at Ramiro Peña, who kind of surprised everyone.
We thought putting Hughes in the bullpen would screw the rotation over real good (not that Hughes in the bullpen doesn’t have its own issues), but Hughes has dominated as the 8th inning guy after Bruney has just…disappeared…and the rotation seems to have sorted itself out, anyhow (Pettitte pitched great last night until the seventh inning…most of the time he’d have more than one run of support to show for it!)
Strangely, as much as this injury hurts, I have this odd faith that the Yankees will find a way around it.
Isn’t that what the great teams do, anyway?
“Does anyone else want david robertson off this team?”
Neh, I don’t mind Robertson that much, he is back of the bullpen material, to eat up middle innings, ala Brett Tomko, but with much better stuff. Just don’t bring in Robertson when it is late and close, he can walk the farm when pressure is on him. Let him stick to the middle innings or blowouts either way of the game, just never let him come into close games late.
You have to distinguish roles with respect to whether or not Jackson should be brought up.
It’s one thing if the intention of the call up is for him to step into a starting role.
It’s another if he’s called up to fill a limited role with the express intention of sending him back down again to AAA.
The team is in a bind now, a bind which is exasperated by erratic corner outfield defense.
Damon can’t play LF now. CF is completely out of the question.
Melky, even if he hits well, can’t play CF everyday for a month.
At this point, they literally could not rest Melky for even a day as they have no one else to play CF.
They aren’t going to test pena in CF yet – especially CF in yankee stadium, playing next to Damon and Swisher.
Jackson will need to be put on the 40 man this winter anyway.
They’ll either need to bring up Jackson or make a trade. And that need is really being driven by defensive/ positional requirements.
A good guess says Austin Jackson will join the team Monday at Tropicana Field.
Interesting stuff with Melky, Gardner, King Felix…
http://mlbwhispers.wordpress.com/
I dont think the Yanks will do it, but check it out, let us know what you thing..sorry for the convo changer! hahha
If they do bring up AJax, I would think a road trip starting at the Trop would be ideal.
Swisher can play CF in a pinch…
You have to distinguish roles with respect to whether or not Jackson should be brought up.
It’s one thing if the intention of the call up is for him to step into a starting role.
It’s another if he’s called up to fill a limited role with the express intention of sending him back down again to AAA.
The team is in a bind now, a bind which is exasperated by erratic corner outfield defense.
Damon can’t play LF now. CF is completely out of the question.
Melky, even if he hits well, can’t play CF everyday for a month.
“At this point, they literally could not rest Melky for even a day as they have no one else to play CF.
They aren’t going to test pena in CF yet – especially CF in yankee stadium, playing next to Damon and Swisher.
Jackson will need to be put on the 40 man this winter anyway.
They’ll either need to bring up Jackson or make a trade. And that need is really being driven by defensive/ positional requirements.”
++++++ Exactly, I just hope they release Ransom, call up Pena and Jackson and go from there. That will take care of any 40 man roster issues.
CB: It does make it seem likely that the only real option is to call up Jackson.
At this point, they’d overpay in a trade.
Ajax is the best fit to replace what Gardy does.
He does’nt have to hit all that much. Just bring speed & defense with him which is what Gardy is counted on for.
Ajax should be next season’s starting LF. Yanks need to get young, faster, & more athletic.
4 of the old dinosaurs contracts are up after this season:
Damon: no arm & constantly banged up (AJAX)
Matsui: 2 bad knees, can’t play def. any more & in mid 30′s
Nady: avg. hitter & defender coming off of major surgery.
Molina: fat, slow, & can’t hit. (Cervelli ready to step in)
Time to mix in some youth, speed, & athletism with remaining vets.
“Swisher can play CF in a pinch…”
LOL, its one thing to stand there and move like you are swimming against rip tide, its another to be able to actually move in the OF and get to balls. Swisher should be kept out of that position at all cost.
Yikes!!! Five of our next nine games are on artificial turf. That does it…we need AJax to play the outfield on the rug.
Swisher’s a better fielder than people realize, but that doesn’t mean he should be playing center.
Oh my goodness. Went to sleep last night excited because I’d wake up to (for me) morning baseball.
But I wake up to bad knews for one of my favorite players. Good luck to BTBG. I think he’ll be missed more in the field than for his cat burglar skills.
They should’ve called Jackson up. It’s the perfect time. It’s an emergency so there’d be less pressure to perform. If he’s not ready, then it can be brushed off as an emergency call-up.
Thanks for the Phil Q&A. Heart-wrenching to read how difficult it was for him last season. But good to know that it fueled him. And I don’t like that last line, almost like his father is saving the Red Sox stuff in case Phil ends up there one day. lol.
And how can that mlb article talk about the Rays (26%), but totally ignore the Yankees (2nd highest % in baseball)? That in and of itself is a story, especially since they got to the WS this year.
Looks like we’re short an OF? All signs pointing to the Bronx.
“Molina: fat, slow, & can’t hit. (Cervelli ready to step in)”
LOL about Molina, just another reason I wanted Cervelli to stay. Molina is depressing to watch play soon as he hits the ball on the ground inning over. Yesterday between him and Ransom back to back Gio Gonzalez had a lot less work to do than he would have normally.
Yikes! That’s *news*
Rebecca,
There were almost no CF to trade for in the winter. Getting one now in a trade will be well near impossible.
Regardless of what happens over the next month – if the team calls up Jackson i don’t think it will change their long term plans with him much – unless he hits very well and has quality at bats.
I don’t see them counting on him to start in CF next year. I think he’ll be in AAA.
Getting called up for a month now, when he has to be put on the 40 man anyway, isn’t going to change that plan.
CF has such a high rate of injury (e.g. crashing into walls, etc.) that you can’t field a team without a legit backup CF option.
Think back to that game Melky hurt his shoulder crashing into the wall.
If that happens today the OF would be Damon CF, Hinske RF, Swisher LF.
That would be a frightening thought. That would be such horrendous defensive OF.
It’s not viable – and it’s that lack of viability that will likely drive them to call up Jackson or make a trade.
It’s funny – but if they still had Todd Linden – instead of selling him to Japan – they could have called him up as he can play some CF.
Bringing up Jackson really only happens if the Yanks don’t think Pena is ready to play the outfield yet. If he isn’t, outside of trading for a CF, it’s really the only option. I wouldn’t be against trading for a CF, since we will need one after this season (and a LF or slot in Jackson).
Jackson needs to take some more lumps at AAA and turn his strikeout rate around before he can see consistent time in the majors. But if Pena isn’t ready, it’s time to call the kid up. He can get some hits off of ML pitching and won’t be any worse than Melky. And if he is, he can be a defensive replacement or a pinch runner. We can’t just have one center fielder on the team. We just can’t. Damon will not cut it in CF. Not anymore. No way, no how.
Tough break for Gardner.
Call up Jackson. He plays good defense which is a big plus for this team. Any offense he gives is a plus.
Unbelieveable w/A Rod getting a day off. So what if they play 17 in a row….whatever….Girardi has mailed this game in today….up .5 games headed to Tampa..WOW
Well we will see if they are smart and do call up Jackson, because this we know,
Damon, Swisher are not playing CF
Can’t trust Melky getting all the AB’s every single day in CF.
All signs point to Jackson being called up for the time being.
“Unbelieveable w/A Rod getting a day off.”
It would have been much more acceptable if I didn’t have to see Bummy Ransom in the lineup. That guy is an auto out, well lets just hope he fields all the balls hit to him today.
Hey BBfan, maybe if you had actually watched Joba pitch lately instead just throwing out your mindless drivel you’d have a different take on things.
Go back under your bridge, troll.
Rebecca
Keep Swisher in RF. He is an average outfielder who can’t throw. Don’t put him in CF.
Nothing wrong with calling up Jackson. He’s spent most of the season in AAA anyway. I can understand not wanting to call him up if it’s April or May but it’s late July. So..
Just play him against lefty’s or a righty you think he can handle.
Anything he gives you offensively is bonus. He can do pretty much what Gardner does; solid defense (although he gets better reads then Gardner) speed better arm.
We’re talking about him spitting time with Melky not playing everyday.
heh. During yesterday’s broadcast, Kay asked Paul O’Neill what his most memorable injury/stint on the DL was. Paully said it was when he broke his thumb. Said it sucked cause it was 6 weeks until he could really swing the bat well. Felt good, but had slow hands for awhile. Anyone remember what he said better than me?
The Yanks will work through this. It’s a treat to watch Gardner on the basepaths. Hopefully he’ll be ready to go in 3 or 4 weeks.
I bet they’ll bring up Jackson.
Pena is an intriguing thought.
He really beefs up the IF defense, has shown himself not to be overwhelmed at the major league level, and can do for a spot start in the OF.
RF would be the best? Left field would usually be the place to put him, but YS left field is notoriously difficult to play, no? Can’t be much worse than Johnny Dangerously out there.
when is the trading deadline?
Jackson is hitting like .200 in his last 10 games. How cam he help us?
Atleast Cervelli was swinging the bat well when he came up here (.190 overall but on a hot streak before he was called up).
“We’re talking about him spitting time with Melky not playing everyday.”
++++++ Exactly, which is why I’m comfortable with calling Jackson up, we need another CF and he fits the bill, it seems pretty straight forward. No one is asking him to come up and be Willy Mays.
Bring up Pena he was learning to play center and can be the backup if something happens to Melky.
Get Well Soon GGBFG
Pena has been playing CF in Scranton. They can bring him up as the emergency guy.
“when is the trading deadline?”
Friday
By the way…just to let you know…
Ransom is going yard today!
I’m fine with not calling up anyone
Melky can play CF everyday and Swisher/Damon have experience there and could play there in an emergency.
“Jackson is hitting like .200 in his last 10 games. How cam he help us?”
Dude he is wouldn’t be here for offense primarily, but to split time with Cabrera. Are you comfortable with only 1 CF on the roster, or having to watch Damon play CF again, or have no late inning substitution for noodle arm Johnny, or can’t pinch run or make any moves with the OF and only having Eric Hinske as the backup outfielder, or do you expect us to trade for Torii Hunter. See that is why Jackson will be called up.
“Hey BBfan, maybe if you had actually watched Joba pitch lately instead just throwing out your mindless drivel you’d have a different take on things.
Go back under your bridge, troll.”
Hardwired,
Stop your BS and go under the bridge yourself.
Do not call regular visitors here trolls.
As Pete says there are some who do not understand baseball and you are probably one of them.
I have no issue you defending not tradoing Joba, but do not call people names. Over time the likes of SJ stated that it is worth trading for Doc and giving up Joba. Are they trolls?
Grow up…..
What I would do is DFA Ransom bring up Pena and Jackson. But of course that’s not going to happen.
RDM
July 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Unbelieveable w/A Rod getting a day off. So what if they play 17 in a row?.whatever?.Girardi has mailed this game in today?.up .5 games headed to Tampa..WOW
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Yesterday you were bashing ARod, today you want him in the lineup?
We know you’re just trying to be infuriating and get a rise out of people, but at least try and keep the ridiculousness consistent.
The non-wiaver trade deadline is 4:00pm Eastern time Friday. Most GMs believe that the deadline is much less relevant this year if you are moving expensive players because teams will be afraid of incurring the cost if they put in a claim.
A cheap, sensible short term fill in for CF could be Scott Hairston from Oakland. A longer term idea might be Chris Young of Arizona who is fading badly over the last two years but has a world of talent and might need a change of scenery.
Jason Stark is reporting that the Jays rejected the Phillies offer of Carlos Carrasco, JA Happ, Jason Donals and Michael Taylor.
JP is in a lot of trouble. That’s offer by the Phillies is an absolute joke. There’s almost nothing of real value in that package. All complementary players or player who are very uncertain.
That the phillies put together a proposals that doesn’t include either Brown or Drabek is remarkable. That tells you the phillies now feel they are the only game in town for the Jays.
A couple of weeks ago people here were convinced that if the yankees had to give up Joba + Montero + Jackson, etc. they should do it.
But in any business, if you have to pay 500% more than a competitor for an asset that market is so biased that you’d be foolish to play in it because by definition you are getting ripped off compared to going market prices.
To put that Phillies offer in perspective – even the guys the phillies have deemed “untouchable” – drabek and brown – aren’t even close to being of the same value as Joba, Hughes or Montero. Not even remotely close.
There are times to walk away. And when the market is completely biased against you and is defining that you will have to make a terrible over-priced deal to participate you walk away.
“Melky can play CF everyday and Swisher/Damon have experience there and could play there in an emergency.”
You’re forgetting something with that line of reasoning, do you trust Johnny in the games late defensively with that arm and his occasional case of invisible diving and jumping for balls that inevitably get by him. Jackson would split time with Melky and at least be an option available off the bench for a given situation late on. That is not available now.
Two more options:
Bring up Melky Mesa…Guaranteed to lead the league in “Melkys”!
Put Montero in CF…he’ll give up about 3-4 runs on defense a game…and knock in 5 or 6!
Zman,
I’d be okay, too. melky can definitely play CF. But we can’t trot Damon out there everyday. He’ll fall apart lol. I’d rather call up an another OF than Cervelli. A third catcher isn’t a luxury we can afford when we’re short a cog in a platoon outfield.
“What I would do is DFA Ransom bring up Pena and Jackson. But of course that’s not going to happen.”
This is what I stated I would do clearly, I just don’t see Ransom’s value to this team, Yankee management begs to differ, that guy should not have an MLB job.
The Yankees might have some other possibilities- center fielders who are becoming free agents at the end of this season, like Rick Ankiel and Marlon Byrd. Mark Kotsay has been DFA two days ago.
Byrd for one of our relief pitchers-a Texas need.
Just throwing other possibilities out there thru the trade market if you want to keep Jackson in AAA until a September call-up
Funny how Girardi rested 3 lefties yesterday against Gonzalez. when they were batting .536 against him, yet played A-Rod in the lineup.
And today, he has all the lefties in against Braden, who holds lefties to a .143 average, and rests A-Rod, when righties are hitting .289 against Braden.
The guy constantly outsmarts himself.
CB,
Exactly. That’s why the Jays options are simple:
Keep him and get even less in the winter.
Get real and trade him for a realistic package and include more teams that are able to match up with you better than the teams are you are talking to.
You always do better waiting it out at the trade deadline when you are looking to get a player. Any player for that matter.
The “offers” teams like Toronto and Seattle want for their players are still in the stupid stage.
Let’s see what they are on July 29.
And the award for dumbest comment of the day goes to RDM! Congrats. Here’s hoping that whatever you do for a living, you don’t get a day off ever.
Let’s assume he’s a troll looking for attention. Nobody can be that bad of a fan.
Yanks should also make ridiculously low offer to Tor for Halladay just so we can read about it on MLBTR.
Start with Igawa & Ransom.
“Atleast Cervelli was swinging the bat well when he came up here (.190 overall but on a hot streak before he was called up).”
If you’re trying to say that Jackson won’t swing the bat well because he’s in a slump at SWB then you don’t know much about the game because with different circumstances comes different results.
IMO, the right move is to bring up Jackson now and give him a taste of the big leagues because he’s your best option in the minors to play CF and you can platoon him to face only left-handed pitchers. It’s time to take the gloves off and see what you got now.
CB,
JP is willing to cut off his significant feature to spite his face.
He would’ve been better served to sit back and let the teams come to him. All possible suitors.
It will probably heat up this week, but even then, he’s given a self-imposed deadline of 7/28.
Don’t be surprised to see Ransom show up in CF in the next few weeks…
Brett Gardner –
I’m as sad for him as I am for us. How about the game he played despite the broken thumb. GGBG doesn’t begin to describe him.
I’m sure the Yankees will do well by us no matter what they decide.
Happy Alby is back.
I remain totally committed to the idea that Girardi is a very good manager.
GO YANKEES
GO ORIOLES
The “guy” is in first place with the second best record in baseball. He has to be doing something right.
He’s certainly doing better than the lineup whiners are.
“And the award for dumbest comment of the day goes to RDM! Congrats. Here’s hoping that whatever you do for a living, you don’t get a day off ever.
Let’s assume he’s a troll looking for attention. Nobody can be that bad of a fan.”
Pete,
What happen to you ignoring such stupid posts? They’re not worth commenting on and thus, should be ignore at all times.
It will be Jackson.
1. He needs to protected this offseason.
2. With Damon, Nady, Hinske and Matsui all FA’s, nice to see what we have in Ajax even on a limited basis.
3. Most importantly – we need late-inning defense and speed, exactly what Gardner was providing. Jackson will fit the bill.
Speaking of Byrd, what about Paul Byrd to a minor league deal?
He could be insurance and help with Joba’s inning’s issue.
Pete,
Don’t close off the dumbest comment of the day award yet. The game hasn’t even started.
That’s when RDM and joeman really kick in with the comments.
Long way to go before giving that award today! lol
“Don’t be surprised to see Ransom show up in CF in the next few weeks…”
Please don’t scare us like that, bad enough having to see him play 3rd, Short and 2nd in any given week, now CF that would be too much to take.
“Speaking of Byrd, what about Paul Byrd to a minor league deal?
He could be insurance and help with Joba’s inning’s issue.”
Paul Byrd hasn’t thrown a competitive pitch since last season and we’re getting ready to go into August. No thanks.
No way on earth I want to deal Joba, Hughes or Montero.
All other prospects are worth discussion.
They must get someone else for CF. The idea of Damon or Swisher out there is downright scary.
Carrying 13 pitchers, even for one day is idiocy, plain and simple.
“JP is willing to cut off his significant feature to spite his face”
that was a good one.
Riccardi is a pimp
sar515 July 26th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Don’t be surprised to see Ransom show up in CF in the next few weeks…
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this guy shouldn’t be on any ML roster, let alone starting for the Yankees twice a week
I think JP is taking the bullet for his owners.
Owners limit the marketplace in trades. Not GM’s.
JP is a Billy Beane protege. Billy never discounts trading within his own division. To Billy (correctly so) its all about getting the best deal.
Toronto’s owners are getting all kinds of columnist and fan heat about not trading Halladay within the division.
They are the one’s driving the train here, not JP.
When your owners tell you to do something, you do it.
CB-
Actually Happ would be an immediate loss of a successful rotation spot for the Phillies. But I agree, Toronto is not getting 2-3 players on other teams active rosters, ie Sanders, Wood, and Aybar from the Angels, as was rumored.
Without including Joba, Hughes or Montero, what 4 player package could you put together for just Halladay, realizing you won’t have a window to sign him to an extension, he wants to test free agency anyway, and as unlikely as it would be, could demand a trade before the start of the 2010 season.
speaking of Toronto players. Anyone remember Shannon Stewart (in his prime)?
he was a player
I am bawling watching this segment of Hope Week.
How much so many of us take for granted is amazing. If the most any of us has to complain about is whether or not Girardi should pull Pettitte at any point in a game, we should be kissing the ground we walk on.
Let me be the first to say I am so thankful for all of the blessings in my life. May I remember to remind myself of that whenever I am tempted to get upset about meaningless things in life. (And feel free to help out if you see me falling into it!)
GO YANKEES!
“They must get someone else for CF. The idea of Damon or Swisher out there is downright scary.
Carrying 13 pitchers, even for one day is idiocy, plain and simple.”
SWB is in Toledo, if they just got back the results of Gardner’s broken thumb in the last couple of hours, chances are they won’t get a CF here in time anyway.
SJ44
Don’t forget your pal Matt.
The Polly Tompkins thing on right now is really great.
“I think JP is taking the bullet for his owners.
Owners limit the marketplace in trades. Not GM’s.
JP is a Billy Beane protege. Billy never discounts trading within his own division. To Billy (correctly so) its all about getting the best deal.
Toronto’s owners are getting all kinds of columnist and fan heat about not trading Halladay within the division.
They are the one’s driving the train here, not JP.
When your owners tell you to do something, you do it.”
I agree, JP got his marching orders from somebody above him.
•Bob Klapisch of The Bergen Record mentions in this piece that the Mariners reportedly asked the Yankees for outfielders Melky Cabrera and Brett Gardner in exchange for Jarrod Washburn.
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with Garder injured = I’m assuming this asking price is off the table.
“Yanks should also make ridiculously low offer to Tor for Halladay just so we can read about it on MLBTR.”
LOL
I agree, JP got his marching orders from somebody above him.
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To top it off JP will get his “marching” orders, at the end of the Blue Jays season!!!
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 26th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
I am bawling watching this segment of Hope Week.
How much so many of us take for granted is amazing. If the most any of us has to complain about is whether or not Girardi should pull Pettitte at any point in a game, we should be kissing the ground we walk on.
Let me be the first to say I am so thankful for all of the blessings in my life. May I remember to remind myself of that whenever I am tempted to get upset about meaningless things in life. (And feel free to help out if you see me falling into it!)
GO YANKEES!
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I don’t know if you watched the RS game last night, but Gordon Edes gave the Yankees praise for what they did with Hope Week.
NYY626 – what an amazing person she is. I just love watching this stuff and being able to see the Yankees as exactly what they are – humans playing the game of baseball. I never need reminding of that but I think a lot of people who post here do, especially when they are ready to kick them to the curb for having bad games!
I’m sure they would have done an X-Ray of the thumb last night. But even if they didn’t, the Yankees could charter a plane to fly AJax or Shelley here in two hours.
The fact Albaladejo was here indicates they knew something.
13 pitchers? Why? The 12th guy (Melancon) hasn’t pitched since before the All-Stary break.
SJ,if that’s true, then the Rogers’ estate, or whomever, is exercising poor business acumen. Baseball is a business, and in business, it’s not about emotion, it’s about the money and making good decisions.
Doesn’t sound like Girardi is too keen on promoting Jackson at this point:
http://bombersbeat.mlblogs.com.....laced.html
Melky Cabrera will continue as the Yankees’ starting centerfielder, and now they have to consider if promoting Austin Jackson from Triple-A is the move to make (especially if they can’t offer him regular playing time).
“It’s not something that we’ve talked about at this point,” Joe Girardi said. “Obviously, the guy that probably comes up is not going to be an everyday player. To bring up a guy like Austin Jackson and sit him on the bench right now, I’m not sure how much sense that would make. We’re going to talk about it.”
“Bob Klapisch of The Bergen Record mentions in this piece that the Mariners reportedly asked the Yankees for outfielders Melky Cabrera and Brett Gardner in exchange for Jarrod Washburn”
while i was on this board proclaiming a Melky/Washburn exchange earlier in the week, i believe these reporters have it wrong. The above is the package Seattle was asking for, 1 year ago. They are reporting 1 year late
I stick by my assertion: I’ll take Joba starting game 3 of any playoff series (though I’m loath to discuss potential playoff match-ups in July).
Short of Halladay, who’s out there that would be markedly better? Washburn? A possibly injured Bedard?
“Doesn’t sound like Girardi is too keen on promoting Jackson at this point”
seems like that would be Cashman’s call
wow i usually don’t check it, but these gameday threads are AWFUL. what is wrong with you people? the game has to be played, get off the bridge.
and stop talking about halladay… they already told us its joba + phil + 2 top, and you can’t work around that no matter what crazy nonsense you make up in your head.
Aceves and Robertson are unavailable today. If they get blown out, they don’t want to have Hughes, Coke or Bruney used up in a game like that prior to the Tampa series.
Albie is one day insurance for that possibility.
If Jackson comes up, he should replace Melky.
Give Jackson like a week to show what he can do.
If it’s just a Halladay trade, then the Red Sox would have a better chance than us to get him because they’d be willing to let Buccholz go for Halladay (imo) as opposed to a bat. Hughes and (to a lesser degree) Joba are untouchable if you read the tea leaves (tweets) correctly.
Swisher is no option for CF. Even a runner with Jose Molina’s speed would challenge his noodle arm / rainbow floater throws.
“I don’t know if you watched the RS game last night, but Gordon Edes gave the Yankees praise for what they did with Hope Week.”
MaineYank, I have to say that between my allergy medication knocking me out and seeing the score early on, I elected to doze last night. Huge credit to Edes for doing that. And such huge credit to our Yanks for extending themselves that way. I am sure players are doing these things all the time, on individual bases (and not just Yankee players). But to see it done as a team is truly inspirational. And if you saw the look on Tex’s face, you know that it comes straight from their souls.
OT – what part of Maine are you in? We are supposed to be travelling north on Tuesday – probably Ogunquit area. We were going to go last week but the weather forecast for the week was rain. I know you can’t always trust the Yahoo 5-day forecast, but that’s what I went on. This week is also forecasting thunder showers at the most and possible rain at the least. Any info you might have would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
“I’m sure they would have done an X-Ray of the thumb last night. But even if they didn’t, the Yankees could charter a plane to fly AJax or Shelley here in two hours.
The fact Albaladejo was here indicates they knew something.
13 pitchers? Why? The 12th guy (Melancon) hasn’t pitched since before the All-Stary break.”
Then maybe Cashman is working a deal right now and doesn’t want to make a 40 man roster move if he doesn’t have to right now.
“Aceves and Robertson are unavailable today. If they get blown out, they don’t want to have Hughes, Coke or Bruney used up in a game like that prior to the Tampa series.
Albie is one day insurance for that possibility.”
That too especially with Mitre going today.
“wow i usually don’t check it, but these gameday threads are AWFUL. what is wrong with you people? the game has to be played, get off the bridge.
and stop talking about halladay… they already told us its joba + phil + 2 top, and you can’t work around that no matter what crazy nonsense you make up in your head.”
I couldn’t agree more, Tom, on both fronts. Unfortunately, neither thing is going to go away.
vinny-b (keep Montero) July 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
seems like that would be Cashman’s call
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Yes, but the manager’s opinion matters here, too.
It makes you wonder how GGBG broke his thumb on a slide and then made great catches and hit a triple afterwards.
I should call Oliver Stone – I bet Gardner broke his thumb during the picnic and it’s all a cover-up. No Yankee wants to go on the DL from a picnic.
Maybe he broke it greeting death-grip hand shaker Kate Hudson. Thanks Alex. It’s always your fault.
Joba, A Jax, Romine and Betances….for Halladay and Rios???
My son just heard whispered…
Whaddya think?
If we get blown out, just let Albaladejo and Tomko finish the game.
Either way the Yankees will be calling up a player they would rather give ABs to in AAA.
One of the reasons why Pena was sent down is to get steady AAA ABs. If he was called up to play CF he won’t be playing everyday.
“I should call Oliver Stone – I bet Gardner broke his thumb during the picnic and it’s all a cover-up. No Yankee wants to go on the DL from a picnic”
DT: you hilarious, bro
Fandom July 26th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
If we get blown out, just let Albaladejo and Tomko finish the game.
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hahahahaha
Be hard for Tomko to finish the game since he’s been DFA’ed.
Betances has been hurt all year. He has no trade value.
If the Yanks DON’T call up Jackson it’s a pretty big mistake.
Melky cannot play CF every day for a month, he just can’t.
Call up Jackson, give him every start vs lefties. He can also be a defensive replacement for Damon or Swisher late in games.
That is more than enough playing time for a young guy trying to make it in the majors. I don’t see what Girardi’s hang-up on this could be. He plays Ransom but he’d be unwilling to play Jackson? I doubt it.
Call up Jackson, it would benefit him and the team.
I wish one of these teams could just TB away for once. They’ve clawed out so many nail-biters lately that it’s become almost commonplace.
Well, I guess it’ll just be up to the Yanks to show the rest of the league how it’s done.
Interesting! Toronto was boing Rios & Wells badly yesterday against the Rays everytime they came up. I wonder if JP would make a deal for 1 of them to the Yanks with Halladay. I bet he’d be willing to swallow half of Wells’ contract just to get him out of Dodge!
Rios or Wells would look good in CF in Yankee stadium. Halladay would look awesome.
Speaking of Byrd, what about Paul Byrd to a minor league deal?
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Paul Byrd would be about as much help to the Yankees as Larry Bird would.
SJ,
Part of the reason for why I was strongly opposed to trading Joba, Hughes or Montero in a deal for Doc was because at the end of the day I thought JP would have very little leverage and might not get one player of that caliber back – never mind two of those three plus other talent.
And outside of the random rumor on Kershaw there have been no rumors of truly elite prospects or top notch young players going back to the Jays. And those Kershaw rumors were a joke.
Seriously – if trading Kyle Drabek is supposedly out of the question then that says it all. He’s nowhere close to what Hughes and Joba were when they were in the minors – and given their major league success – he’s not even remotely close to their value now.
And he’s “untouchable?”
So the phillies won’t give up Drabek or Brown but the yankees should give up Joba and Montero?
That’s just a joke.
If you have to pay orders of magnitude more than what the going market rate is you walk away. The only entities that make those kinds of over market price point plays are those that are desperate.
The yankees days of being desperate are over.
The yankees probability of making the playoffs right now is over 90%.
You have to make smart moves. And paying that much over going market returns is not smart business.
Lets take the series today!
I am SO sick of this stupid Halladay talk.
Joba is getting better and better with each start. Forget about Montero, A Jax and the other guys they want.
Cashman should give JP the finger and worry about dealing with other teams.
I’m telling you right now…… staying away from Halladay is the best option.
The one thing that baffles me, you people talk about Joba being injury prone and the “durability” of Halladay.
How long have you people been watching baseball? Halladay missed 15+ starts in both 2004 and 2005. That’s almost a full season worth of injuries in 2 years. He’s 32 years old.
ITS NOT WORTH IT. The last thing I want is to see Joba’s fist pumps in a Jays uniform as he mows down our hitters for the next 10-15 years.
While Halladay has realistically maybe 3-4 years left performing at his current level for what… 20 million a year?
I just wish this guy would get traded. I’m sick of the tweets, the rumors, and the bullsh-t which show nothing but proposals where the Yankees give up WAY too much talent. Its not even close IMO.
I know I may be in the minority… but what about bringing back Bernie?
He is a pure CF and could provide some nice pop off the bench and spell Melky once in a while.
Bernie couldn’t play CF the last few years of his career. His arm is now like Damon’s. Plus, he’s incredibly rusty.
I think Austin Jackson would do fine in NY. I’d bring him up in a heartbeat. Sure he has had 10 games of struggling a bit, but he is still doing great in AAA. Reggie will take care of him! I believe he is ready now. Sometimes prospects are ready early & I believe he is. Scarry to think of Damon, Melky & Swish as a best defensive OF in August!
Really too bad Montero isn’t a centerfielder
JP Ricciardi is kind of moronic. When the Yanks called he said he wants Hughes, Montero and Jackson.
He is requesting Drabek, Brown and Happ from the Phillies which is a pretty huge difference. That is a very underwhelming return for Halladay.
Then from the angels he’s requesting Saunders, Aybar, Wood and a prospect. Another underwhelming return.
He’s not a very smart GM and this just magnifies that. He asks for the world from the Yankees and mediocre packages from other teams.
I doubt he will trade Halladay this summer and if he does he won’t get much back.
o-dog is soooo hot right now…hes on fiya and i dont like it!
I am here to guarantee a Yankee win today.
You read it here first (I think).
See me later if it doesn’t work out. I’ll be the first to remind you it is only a game and that if it’s the worst thing to happen in your lives, you should be thankful!!!
(That is what is known as setting up a win-win for myself. My glass is always AT LEAST half full…)
GO YANKS!!!
Lets go Yankees!
LOL! Bernie is retired, no matter what he says. He will not be playing MLB again.
Girardi said it won’t be Jackson. Did Cashman tell him that?
Cashman should just tell Girardi “We are calling Jackson up and you WILL platoon him vs lefties”
A-jax is clearly the best option to call up with Gardner out. I don’t really understand why Girardi is against it.
giradri says no jackson
so whose comes up
Bernie in CF?
way-back machine time.
Hopefully we can fit Paul O’Neill in there and get a real right fielder while we’re at it.
I’m sure I’m in the minority here, but I don’t get the full on love AJax gets and the hate Shelley Duncan recieves.
Ajax, to me, projects as a strong 4th OF or a solid starter comparable to but better than Melky, slightly. (think Roberto Kelly). Maybe I’m being conservative on his projection, but hey, the Torri Hunter proclamations are silly.
If Jack Cust can have a MLB job why can’t Shelley?
With Shelley I just get the deja vu feeling of not being given a chance like Juan Rivera. Who finally got with Anaheim after he escaped our log jam and came into his own and showed his promise and value.
I hope our bats are ready today
Hey Miggs – I don’t even bother reading the Halladay stuff, ever, but I do read your posts. So let me ask you so that I can continue ignoring the hot air if it be the case – has Cashman said he is interested in Halladay? Last I read he wasn’t going near it. If it’s still the case, I will continue to scroll on by anything that appears to be Halladay-oriented.
Thanks.
Patrick its just so ridiculous.
Hughes and Joba are having success at the major league level. They aren’t “prospects” anymore.
I have to look it up but Joba’s ERA in his first 20-25 ML starts I would assume is better than 90% of other pitchers first 20-25 starts.
The guy is a beast and will only get better and better. And all these morons can’t wait to show him the door.
Just so so stupid.
Forget Bernie Williams – Micky Rivers looked pretty quick during the Old Timers Game.
Jackson is the obvious option. If he won’t be playing everyday neither would Pena. Whats the difference?
if the yankees dont think ajax is ready, hes not ready….nobody here knows better than the yankees do so stop acting like not bringing up ajax is bad…
What makes you think just Girardi is against it? Suppose the organization is against it? Or, as Girardi said, they are going to “talk about it”.
Mitre showing his true colors today. Knew it was too good to be true. He’s just not an AL East pitcher.
Bad luck there.
eeek c’mon boys
Putting AJax in the grinder now would likely be reminiscent of Melky’s first call-up, and we all remember how well that went (thinks about that series in Fenway, rolls eyes).
When has Brian Cashman ever said what any trade intentions are publicly? Never.
If he wasn’t interested, he wouldn’t have called the Jays.
Of course he is interested. They may not matchup but everybody would love to have a Roy Halladay on their team.
“if the yankees dont think ajax is ready, hes not ready….nobody here knows better than the yankees do so stop acting like not bringing up ajax is bad…”
Ralphie – these are the kinds of posts I appreciate most because in reality they make the most sense. Who would know better than the Yankee organization if someone is the best person to bring up – or not.
that was not a play robbie “should” of made…the spin on that ball is insane off the mound…
this is not helping my hangover, not one bit.
How is a sinkerball pitcher getting a DP GB that doesn’t get handled his “fault”.
All sinkerball pitchers can do is pitch to contact. Its up to the fielders to make the play.
Should have had a DP and out of the inning with one run.
Trisha I don’t know, really. Cash likes to downplay interest and lay in the weeds and strike suddenly.
I hope he sticks to his guns about holding onto young talent.
I’m not a “prospect hugger” I’m a realist. I’m a baseball fan that watches the games with his eyes.
Joba is growing into a high end starter right in front of us. Why everyone can’t see this is puzzling to me.
Shoot, Joba has better stuff than Halladay. Not saying he’s a better PITCHER today, but could be in the near future, especially as Halladay enters his mid-thirties.
Brace yourselves – this is going to be a long afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Is Albie warming up yet?
“When has Brian Cashman ever said what any trade intentions are publicly? Never.
If he wasn’t interested, he wouldn’t have called the Jays.
Of course he is interested. They may not matchup but everybody would love to have a Roy Halladay on their team.”
To me this is nothing but hot air.
I am asking whether Cashman has publicly said he has changed his mind. If you are telling me it is public that he has made another call, then so be it, I am interested in following it. If he has not, then I will continue to ignore all of the Halladay daydreams.
So please Miggs, just answer the question I asked. Thanks.
Anyone got a link to the game?
Its a play Robbie should have made. Tough play but, this is the big leagues. Guys with Robbie’s skill make that play.
Didn’t happen and you turn the page and look to get the third out here.
Mitre is giving me Wang flashbacks.
The good news is – he’s getting ground balls.
Hopefully, Mitre will settle down from here.
Mitre should have gotten out of that inning with only one run allowed. He’s the 5th starter. Give the guy a break.
that could of been worse i guess?…hopefully the bats are alive and mitre settles down…but thats impossible cause the yankees have lost 8 of 9 games….
wait a minute…^^^^^^ thats not right is it?
I come back from groceries and it’s 2-0? Boo.
miggs-
when ya gonna post those photos?
Trisha
Go to WCSH.com to get the projected weather. That is a local NBC station.
My wife said it’s supposed to be humid next week with a chance of thunder showers.
Ogunquit is mostly a tourist trap. There is a nice walkway at Perkins Cove that would be worth finding.
If you have time drive up to Portland and go to Portland Headlight. Maine’s first and most famous lighthouse.
I’m about 80mi. NW of Ogunquit.
Miggs thanks, I just saw your post.
I will continue then to know Halladay is not in the Yankees plans.
It is one thing TO ME when Cashman says nothing. It is quite another thing when he has said he is not interested. Last I read he said he was not interested.
I don’t Mitre pitched as poorly as it looked. The double was legit, but two of the hits were groundballs and one other was a 3-0 pitch not anywhere near the middle of the plate that was taken the other way. That was just a good piece of hitting.
The defense has to be sharp today. And it would help if the Yankees didn’t K 5 times in the first two innings like they’ve been doing the past couple days.
You have to call up jackson, he has speed and can play defense. Like SJ, and others said…it’s a NO BRAINER.
Losing Gardner hanicaps the yankees late in games bc they have no defense and wont be able to pinch run.
lets hope Mitre can settle down and keep his pitches down
I love first pitch hits
So Michael Kay was just telling us about Gardner’s roster spot and that Shelly Duncan is not on the 40 man roster so they’ll have to move somebody off of it if Duncan is to come up. So what’s the significance of the 40 man roster? There are a bunch of minor league pitchers, like Brackman, on the 40 man roster. Why do they need to be there?
The usual site for listening online doesn’t seem to be working…
DT its funny, from the back Mitre looks a lot like Wang. The hair, part of the windup, even his delivery and the way the ball leaves his hand reminds me a lot of Wang.
Losing Gardner hanicaps the yankees late in games bc they have no defense and wont be able to pinch run.
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they haven’t been able to do that the last 4 years anyway up until this season.
Rebecca
Please don’t get groceries again
Okay we have Jackson in AAA, who do we have in NL-AAA with the Pirates?
So Michael Kay was just telling us about Gardner’s roster spot and that Shelly Duncan is not on the 40 man roster so they’ll have to move somebody off of it if Duncan is to come up. So what’s the significance of the 40 man roster? There are a bunch of minor league pitchers, like Brackman, on the 40 man roster. Why do they need to be there?
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Brackman had to be on the 40 man for the Yankees to sign him as their draft pick, not sure of the exact reason but yeah.
Are they saying how long Gardner will be out?
So far so good for the Yankees. Lets score some before we reach the bottom of the order!
Greg D: You’d rather I starve to death?
Shoot, Joba has better stuff than Halladay.”
LMAO
Joba has better stuff than Halladay?
Lets ask Chris Russo about that…
Its “hot air” because you choose not to believe it. Doesn’t mean its not true.
Do you really think the Yankees have had no conversations with the Jays about Roy Halladay? If you do you:
Don’t know how the Yankees do business.
Choose to ignore published reports they have had conversations with the Jays and were told what the price would be to acquire him.
Would also choose to ignore that Rick Williams, Cashman’s top advance guy, was in Toronto Friday night. He wasn’t there for the sushi. He was there to look at Downs, Rios and Halladay.
Doesn’t mean they are doing deals but they are doing homework. If they weren’t interested, they wouldn’t be doing the homework.
Miggs,
Cashman isn’t blowing up the farm system to get Doc. If a deal can work, he would do it. If not, he passes.
With the price coming down daily, its pretty clear he isn’t going to trade Hughes or Chamberlain for him.
Also, the market from the Yankees perspective has changed.
If Wang was healthy and ready to return, perhaps you think about moving one of the young guns.
However, if you trade Joba for Doc, you are still a pitcher short due to Wang’s injury.
It makes the Yankees less likely to engage on a deal of that magnitude.
“Jobber Chamebulin isn’t a pimple on Roy Halladays fanny!!”
Trevor
July 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Jackson is the obvious option. If he won’t be playing everyday neither would Pena. Whats the difference?
Jackson is a legit prospect, Pena is nothing but a MLB utility infielder.
This is around the time of the yr. I said I’d give Ajax a cup of coffee, really if after this game El Nino or AJax isn’t platooning w/ Melky another words if they dare call up Shelley Duncan someone needs to be fired.
Get well soon Gardenhoser
You’d rather I starve to death?
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ok, just don’t go during games
From Rotoworld
Austin Jackson -OF- Yankees Jul. 26 – 1:11 pm et
Yankees manager Joe Girardi indicated that he doesn’t see Austin Jackson replacing Brett Gardner right now.
Girardi said it was because “the guy who comes up is probably not going to be an every day player, and to bring up a guy like Austin Jackson and sit him on the bench right now, I’m not sure how much sense that would make.” Melky Cabrera is going to start in center, apparently.
Source: New York Daily News http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....rdner.html
If the Yanks were to do something wierd like take both Rios (Full Contract) & Wells (½ Contract) along with Halladay & then trade Wells to SF Giants maybe we could sweeten a deal for Toronto.
AJax, Rommine, Pena & SF Giant Pitcher.
Is this too crazy?
“Okay we have Jackson in AAA, who do we have in NL-AAA with the Pirates?”
Lastings.
dtv-
I didn’t take a pic of the hottie sitting in front of me if that’s what you’re asking…
Its usually not my thing to take sneak photographs of strangers.
Good job Tex moving the runners over…
OT for MaineYank
MainYank, thanks. I hate to say it but I think the only thing we’re really going to do in the Ogunquit area is go to Harbor Candy!!!
We are heading to Red’s to get their lobster roll and someone told us not to miss Harbor Candy. I think we are probably going to spend time in Portland and maybe also go to Camden. We really didn’t have any definitive plans beyond Red’s. Personally I would like to stay home but I committed myself to going so if the weather is lousy and the others still want to go I’m in.
(I really wanted to pick blueberries up there but with all of the talk about deer ticks I may be avoiding that also. I remember going to Machias as a child, but as I remember it is quite a fur piece from RI!)
I wish the hip hip jorge chant would go the way of the Macarena to a quick and sudden death.
this guy on the 1b line doing the hip hip thing needs to die in a fire…
The only good thing about Jorge’s popup is that the damn Hip Hip chant can stop.
Tom B he might be talking about Colin Curtis
Brian Cashman has never said publicly he isn’t interested in Roy Halladay. In fact, he has said “no comment” repeatedly because he doesn’t want anybody filing tampering charges against him.
He never talks publicly about trades. In fact, he always says, “nothing is likely”, and then eventually makes some kind of deal.
Nobody is saying he’s trading for Roy Halladay. However, to say he isn’t interested in the best pitcher in the AL is folly.
“This is around the time of the yr. I said I’d give Ajax a cup of coffee, really if after this game El Nino or AJax isn’t platooning w/ Melky another words if they dare call up Shelley Duncan someone needs to be fired.”
brandon you been saying the entire season
“NO…dont even speak his name till september”
“No chance…leave him in AAA till septemeber”
now your changing your mind!
very nice hitting matsui!
There you go.
Thank you Matsui!!!!
Matsui! Ok nice to be on the board!
Remonduful….
Why does Swisher bat before Cano?
I had a big feeling Matsui was going to get a single there.
Huge just to get one run back, especially after getting the first two runners on.
Swisher is so due for a homerun.
when was the last time Swisher went deep? He’s due.
SJ44, would you trade Joba for Halladay? I wouldn’t. No way, no how. I don’t care how good Doc is. I think that Joba can be a great pitcher in the future; he’s pretty darn good now. He’s 23 years old. Let’s give him the chance instead of trading him away for a guy who may turn out just to be a rental.
Stop reading my mind RS.
dallas braden cant get lefties out. i dont know his stats, but he looks different against lefties. get the switch hitters on the left side lol.
Ugh. Cano with bases loaded. Mitre better get ready.
He needs to go 2-0 to Cano
this game is gonna be 50 hours
The A’s obviously know their scouting report for Cano. They wanted no part of Swisher. It comes down to Cano with the bases loaded again.
robbies up with risp. bye bye first inning.
Robbie up, bases loaded….first pitch over/under?
robbie…DON’T FEAR THE RISP…WE NEED MORE COWBELL!!!
I’m thinking good things about Robbie with men in scoring position. Positive thoughts…positive thoughts..
“Miggs thanks, I just saw your post.
I will continue then to know Halladay is not in the Yankees plans.”
Trish I really have no idea. Cash could be doing a deal for him right now. I hope not, but its possible.
seriously. enough with t he halladay garbage.
swisher just walked on 4 pitches. bet cano swings at the first pitch here.
SJ – it merely believes that I pay attention to what comes from the Yankees over the stuff I read here.
And jinkies, it seems to always work out well that way!
WARNING WARNING
robinson cano..the yankees 2nd basemen is coming to the plate..hes batting .309 on the year but this place will explode if he doesnt get an rbi here!
Robbie just can’t stop himself from swinging at the first pitch with men on.
Cano needs to let that pitch go
SJ – it also merely MEANS that I pay attention to what comes from the Yankees over the stuff I read here.
And jinkies, it still seems to always work out well that way!
first pitch swinging. what else is new. thanks for nothing cano, you loaf.
miggs-
No, I wanted to see what view from section 215 as reference for future purchases.
Good job Robbie. Swing at every pitch.
That last pitch was a pitch to hit.
laura you do realize that with men on the pitcher will always try to get ahead with a fastball in, and if you jump on those they tend to land on the other side of the fence… or get popped up.
The 0-1 pitch was hittable.
seriously Cano……
“NO…dont even speak his name till september”
“No chance…leave him in AAA till septemeber”
now your changing your mind!”
Gardy is hurt, we need a viable CF. The Albaledejo move was a joke. You have Melancon who hasn’t been used in like centuries and they call up Alba?
I think GI Joe is thinking in this order
1. call up Curtis
2. call up El Nino
3. call up Jackson
Robbie!!
Miracle?
WOOOOW! WHADDAYA KNOW!?!
I am so happt for Cano right now
RISP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBBIE ROBBIE!
dam he overslid
He did it!! But Cano is out…
that couldn’t have been cano could it? BRIIIIDGE JUUUMPERS
Robbie Cano!!!!!
CANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My positive thoughts paid off.
cano giveth and taketh
Cano hit a triple, if he didn’t overslide.
Robi hit w/ RISP?
lol robbie didn’t know what to do! he go to third like what? over slid the bag lol
cano was so excited that he hit with RISP that he slid all the way into the visiting dugout
anyone know what the 40 man roster is all about? they can’t bring up Duncan unless they take someone, like Brackman or various other young pitchers that we don’t hear much about, off of the 40 man roster. so why do those guys need to be there?
miggs, until and unless I hear otherwise coming out of the Yankee organization, Halladay is not going to be a Yankee. Last Cashman said he wasn’t going near it. That’s good enough for me.
By the way, I did guarantee a Yankee win…
Um.
Robbie?
Who are you and what have you done with Robbie Canó?
yea Robbie!!
unless the Yanks feel Pena can play CF after a couple of times out there, he have to bring up AJax unless they swing a trade…..is Kotsay off waivers yet?
HAHAHAHA
Somebody get the Tom Emanski videos for Melky and Robi.
“laura you do realize that with men on the pitcher will always try to get ahead with a fastball in, and if you jump on those they tend to land on the other side of the fence… or get popped up.”
And Cano tends to always pop those balls up. That’s why he was taking extra BP the other day. IMO, he should just let them go and wait for a pitch out over the plate like he just got.
Haha, I’ll take a bases clearing double with an overslide on third base any day.
The Base Running volume one.
He slid as if he going into home plate and trying to miss the tag, weird.
There you go all you Cano haters!
Start appreciating this guy for what he is instead of harping on his one weakness…RISP.
By the way, for a guy with horrible RISP numbers, he has 52 RBIs hitting no higher than 5th in the order.
Cano should be banned from taking the extra base. He just does not have the speed or brain to do that.
I can’t wait ’til Michael Kay is inducted.
50 “Robbie can’t hit with RISP” comments – just went backspace backspace backspace highlight delete.
How do you over slide while being a MLB player?? Nice it though….
ATrane – if you want to take a player off the 40 man that is “designating him for assignment” where he can be claimed by any other club and the Yankees can work out a deal or pull him back. or if the pass through unclaimed the Yankees can put him on the AAA roster.
learn how roster moves work before complaining. brackman had to be on the 40 man because of the contract the Yankees had to sign him to when he was drafted.
no way some of these young guys pass through unclaimed.
the thing I hate about losing Gardenhoser is we lose our speed guy.
“Haha, I’ll take a bases clearing double with an overslide on third base any day.”
Yep.
laura, you want him to just stand there til the pitcher makes a mistake?
i’d rather he be agressive. thats what he was doing early in the season when he was successful.
Mitre needs to show up now
Anyone think that Reggie Jackon will be pushing yankee officials to give Ajax a shot. I’m hopeful that Mr. October is pleading his case to cashman.
“I can’t wait ’til Michael Kay is inducted.”
To the HOF? They couldn’t find a Yankee cap big enough for his plaque.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member July 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
miggs, until and unless I hear otherwise coming out of the Yankee organization, Halladay is not going to be a Yankee. Last Cashman said he wasn’t going near it. That’s good enough for me.”
Yeah but…
POSTED December 22nd, 2008 at 3:13pm
Brian Cashman wrote: I’m not going near Mark Texiera.
O’s take a 1-0 lead in the first off Smoltz.
if anything be complaining that Juan Miranda of all people is still clogging up a roster spot. Cash needs to work out a trade and free up that spot. Miranda is of no use now that we’ve got Texiera and the Yankees have enough bad outfielders as is.
“How do you over slide while being a MLB player?? Nice it though….”
I’ve seen players do it before. Probably easier to happen going from the plate to third since you have to work up more speed.
5 innings Serg. just give us 5 decent innings
Cano, who can’t hit with RISP now has 52 RBI’s and is on pace for about 100 RBIs for the season. Sometimes we go overboard on things here that aren’t as bad as they seem. I heard on the Radio in Tampa this morning that ARod was only hitting .243 but he had 19 HRs. They thought he might pick up his hitting. But in reality, ARod is batting .320 for the last 30 days (per Yahoo). Melky is the 5th leading hitter on the Yankees, but people went nuts because he had a few games where he didn’t get a hit. Then he gets a PH, & the next game gets 3 straight hits. The law of averages gieth and taketh away.
“laura, you want him to just stand there til the pitcher makes a mistake?”
No, I want him to swing at his pitch, not theirs. That pitch inside to him is their pitch because he doesn’t handle it well. They threw it to him twice the other game and he popped up both times. If he can work on doing better with that pitch (as he was trying to do when he took extra BP), he can swing at it all day long.
tim, thanks for tip. and I don’t know why you think I was complaining. I was asking.
Mitre did a nice job that inning……3-4 more please
“O’s take a 1-0 lead in the first off Smoltz.”
GO ORIOLES!!!
And to underscore the ESPN Red Sox bias, their fantasy writers rated Smoltz over Andy Pettitte for the second half of the season. Go flippin figure.
Baltimore up 1-0 in the first. Smoltz – LOL
dtv-
I’ll try and post them today after the game. Only took a few at our seats but it should give you a good idea. Took more in the Hard Rock and around the Stadium. I also have some from when I sat in section 224 last month. I’ll try and find those too for you.
Great vantage point, like I said I prefer main dugout seats to most of the field level seats.
On MLB trade rumors it was reported that the mariners want Melky and GGBG for jarrod washburn.
“Sometimes we go overboard on things here that aren’t as bad as they seem.”
You make a good point. We watch every game and every pitch, so to us Robbie’s failures with men in scoring position loom large (and the stats back that up). I think that we focus on it so much that when he does get a hit, we forget about it and only remember that he didn’t get a hit with men on.
Mitre’s problem in the top of the 1st was location. His ball has some nice, natural movement to it when it’s down in the zone.
He settled down with his location that inning. He needs to keep the ball down – he’ll get killed up in the zone. But if he does keep it down then he’ll be effective because of the movement on the ball.
“Yeah but…
POSTED December 22nd, 2008 at 3:13pm
Brian Cashman wrote: I’m not going near Mark Texiera.”
I’m from RI but my heart is in Indiana. Show me the goods or I don’t believe it.
“On MLB trade rumors it was reported that the mariners want Melky and GGBG for jarrod washburn.”
In other words, SEA didn’t want us to have a CF. Got it.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
OT for MaineYank
MainYank, thanks. I hate to say it but I think the only thing we’re really going to do in the Ogunquit area is go to Harbor Candy!!!
We are heading to Red’s to get their lobster roll and someone told us not to miss Harbor Candy. I think we are probably going to spend time in Portland and maybe also go to Camden. We really didn’t have any definitive plans beyond Red’s. Personally I would like to stay home but I committed myself to going so if the weather is lousy and the others still want to go I’m in.
(I really wanted to pick blueberries up there but with all of the talk about deer ticks I may be avoiding that also. I remember going to Machias as a child, but as I remember it is quite a fur piece from RI!)
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I’m very familar with Camden. Wife is from Rockland which is before you get to Camden. Camden is very pretty but a real tourist trap as well. Most of the coast is.
Rockland has a lobster festival that starts wed. and goes till Sun.
Deer ticks are a problem but I think they are where you are as well. I know to much about them. I have Lyme Disease. Been getting treated for about 5 yrs.
if the Yanks can win this game with ARod on the bench….it would be sweet
Remember when Ransom was batting 1000 with two home runs. I miss that guy.
Maybe Da Melk got bit by a bee!
whats going on with melky? arod looks amused….
WTH is up w/ Melky now?
wow this guy is getting squeezed
I have a solution. Put Matsui in center and call up Pena to DH.
Melky got slapped by A-Rod.
And Damon’s walkup music puts me to sleep.
“wow this guy is getting squeezed”
I hope you don’t feel sorry for him, carl.
“I have a solution. Put Matsui in center and call up Pena to DH.”
Dude, put the crack pipe down.
laura… so he worked on it and then he tried to hit it… that seems to be the logical progression of things.
Laura – I’m ready for the 2nd half. Are the Yankees?? Why, yes they are!! July 26th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
“wow this guy is getting squeezed”
I hope you don’t feel sorry for him, carl.
A lil bit
It’s a shame about Gardner, but this is the perfect chance for the Yankees to get Ramiro Pena back facing ML pitching. If he is in fact playing some games in the outfield, then he would be the perfect fit to fill Gardner’s role. He is speedy and can pinch run, but not just that but he can play all over the diamond. He could spell A-Rod at 3B without completely giving up the position and give a ton of other guys a day off.
It’s better to have Gardner heal properly now and have him ready for end of August/September/Playoffs than to let him play through it and make it require surgery. Amazing that he managed to hit a triple despite it yesterday and make those 2 really nice diving catches.
wow very nice mitre+jeter!
Best double play ever
wow 2 pitches, 2 outs
Smoltz 25 pitches in the first inning. May it continue!
MaineYankee, stupid question perhaps but, did you ever find the tick? In other words, do they just fall off you or do they stay there until you remove them?
I love knowing that a DP is imminent.
4 pitch inning.
nice.
Mitre doing a good job so far.
Wow. 4 pitch inning. I may have spoken too soon.
4 pitches? Great!
Mitre settling down nicely.
He’s just fine for a 5th starter.
4 pitches? wow. GJ Sergio
very nice job mitre..this guy is big for the rest of our season…barring a trade
Nice inning by Mitre again…..three more please
Trisha are you watching the Yanks or the Sox today?
Oakland A’s must have a 6:00 pm Duck Boat tour in Boston tonight. Not a patient hitting team.
Hey, since I will happily take the kicks if the Yanks lose (they won’t), will I get lots of props when they win?
I did call it after all!
“Nice inning by Mitre again…..three more please”
Only three more, Greg? Can’t we get wild and crazy and ask for a complete game?
this lineup clearly is a different lineup without ARod
Somebody get that chant guy a muzzle.
Enough with the hip hip jorge chants.
“Nice inning by Mitre again…..three more please”
Only three more, Greg? Can’t we get wild and crazy and ask for a complete game?
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Laura, I don’t want to get greedy but that would be sweet
Don’t flame me, but I vote No for Moose to the Hall. The stats just aren’t there. He’s close, but not close enough.
“Trisha are you watching the Yanks or the Sox today?”
Yanks.
This is exciting since the Yanks are the “underdog” with Mitre v. Braden, I would think.
Just sad that I missed the Orioles scoring their run. I did switch over during the half inning break though. I will likely do that throughout the game.
with gardner out, we need someone who can come off the bench and provide some speed!
Only three more, Greg? Can’t we get wild and crazy and ask for a complete game?
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Laura
Don’t want to be greedy, but that would be sweet
trisha – OPPC lifetime member
July 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Smoltz 25 pitches in the first inning. May it continue!
MaineYankee, stupid question perhaps but, did you ever find the tick? In other words, do they just fall off you or do they stay there until you remove them?
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They usually stay till you pull them off. We also have wood ticks so I wasn’t really paying attention. Just pulled them off when I found one. I never saw a rash either.
“Cano, who can’t hit with RISP now has 52 RBI’s and is on pace for about 100 RBIs for the season.”
To be fair, Cano could EASILY have 60 RBI by now if he just had a few more sac flies or a couple more hits w/RISP. He’s in the top 5 in MLB in hits and has a ton of AB’s with runners on base because of the lineup he’s in.
But, if he ends up with .300/18-20 HR/85-90 RBI that would be a pretty good season.
3-0 Toronto on a Rolen 3-run HR. Bottom of 4th.
Good job by Swisher striking out, so that Robbie will get up with nobody on base to lead off the fourth.
Kay: “if it aint brooklyn don’t fix it” I just cringed
Montero 2 run HR
Isn’t there a way to skim the threads and search for comments by a particular poster?
Anyone know how to do that?
double play please
Maine Yankee and Trisha -
ARe you guys talking about Lyme Disease?
My daughter was diagnosed recently via a blood test. We never found the text. It makes me very nervous.
Too bad the Yankees don’t have Justin Christian anymore.
He’d be a good call-up in place of Gardner. (he’s in AAA with Baltimore)
He can play D and run. That’s where the Yankees will miss Gardner the most.
Jackson needs to play everyday. Can’t see how he would start everyday over Melky.
Rebecca
Great job keeping us updated on Jesus
“Montero 2 run HR”
Quick put him in the Halladay deal while his value is sky high!
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
miggs – go to Edit at the top of the page, and hit “find”
# Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus July 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Montero 2 run HR
Beast
I like what Mitre has done so far but I still think Cashman needs to get another starter.
What happens if in September, the Yankees only have a 3 game lead for a playoff spot, Joba has reached his innings cap, and Pettitte’s back is barking?
Or worse, what if Sabathia or Burnett hit the DL? The Yankees still don’t have enough depth unless everything goes right and guys stay healthy for the rest of the season. I’m not willing to take that risk.
Also, the Yankees have leverage right now because the team is playing well and in first place. Cashman can negotiate without appearing desperate. If one of the current starters goes down with an injury, teams will suddenly be holding out for a king’s ransom.
“Isn’t there a way to skim the threads and search for comments by a particular poster?”
you could always go w/the old ctrl + F
“Montero 2 run HR”
He’s hitting more HRs at an advanced level then he did at the lower levels.
Laura – I’m ready for the 2nd half. Are the Yankees?? Why, yes they are!!
July 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Don’t flame me, but I vote No for Moose to the Hall. The stats just aren’t there. He’s close, but not close enough.
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the guy pitched his whole career in the AL East in the height of the steroid error and spent half his career in that bandbox in Baltimore. that combined with his stats should put him in the HOF
“# Rick July 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
3-0 Toronto on a Rolen 3-run HR. Bottom of 4th.”
Unless they are up 20 or more, I wouldn’t get too excited about it.
“Montero 2 run HR”
Just amazing. The idea of trading him is crazy. He is the definition of untouchable.
The best I can come up with in terms of comparisons is Miguel Cabrera. But Cabrera was 20 when he tore through AA. Montero is 19 for the whole season.
Montero’s going to be in the big leagues and contributing next year.
I just saw on MLBTR that Bedard is on DL. He is a no go before trade deadline anyway.
“My daughter was diagnosed recently via a blood test. We never found the text. It makes me very nervous.”
I think you meant to say tick. And now that makes me even more nervous. As sad as this may sound, I really enjoy picking blueberries. I go every season and pick a ton of them and then freeze them for the winter. I was actually considering going today but when I called one of our local places and they recommended that I wear long pants, socks, sneakers, and put the socks over the pants (it is in the 80s and humid) it made me very nervous. Needless to say, I didn’t end up going.
Do you ever get rid of lyme disease?
Great stop by Posada. Come on, just get this guy out.
Yankee 2nd baseman Joe Gordon was inducted into the Hall of Fame today. Will the yanks front office retire his number?
CB:
Check out what Andruw Jones did at 19
“Isn’t there a way to skim the threads and search for comments by a particular poster?”
macs- command F
i do it all the time. it cuts down on reading everything when there are a lot of posts.
Mitre doesn’t play favorites.
He has given up a hit to seven different guys.
Wow, I was scared that would be a double in the gap.
Okay, worse things could have happened there. Now get a DP and get out of the inning.
4-3, great
“you could always go w/the old ctrl + F”
Duh! Thanks for that reminder. The “newer” way adds three steps…
2-0 Orioles.
has hitters down w/2 strikes, can’t put them away
“Check out what Andruw Jones did at 19″
I remember Andru at 19. He was something. That home run he hit at the stadium…
But that’s the point – there are some guys who just have an innate talent to play the game that can’t be taught.
Montero right now is tracking in that kind of path.
Wow, epic fail.
miggs-
RE: the photos — Thanks!
that hurts
3-0 Os
Trisha, Lyme disease is, unfortunately, incurable. The best one can do is mitigate the symptoms.
If it’s caught and treated within the first 28 days, the symptoms rarely return.
http://www.suite101.com/articl.....ase/110988
And Jeter and Cano save the day!
Mitre got his bacon saved on that DP.
it’s amazing that year in year out Cashman still can’t get enough rotation depth for this team.
meanwhile in Boston, Theo is scooping up Penny and Smoltz for the back end of his rotation on top of Wake, DiceK, Lester and Beckett.
not to mention Bucholz still in AAA.
We however are stuck with the likes of Sergio Mitre and nobody else in the event another starter goes down.
Jeter: Lets try this again.
thanks for the double play
wat a play… mitre better buy them both dinner
Cano is playing Gold Glove defense this season.
Robby is SUCH a tremendous fielding 2B. I think he makes it look so easy all the time that we tend to forget!
Cano was really turn that pivot on the DP. He might be the best in the league at doing that.
4-0 Orioles!
4-0 OS
Mitre… that was pathetic.
4-0 O’s!
Twin killing – just what the doc ordered (no, I’m not talking about Halladay!)
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ORIOLES LEADING 4-0!!!!!
Huge double play there.
Just try to massage Mitre through 6 and the bats tack on a few more runs should equal a win.
Meanwhile, Smoltz getting hammered by the Orioles. Up 4-0 on three straight 2 out hits.
Don’t worry though Smoltz will say after the game that he is “almost there.”
The Barton AB hurt Mitre in that inning. The guy is hitting .097 and he got in front of him 1-2 and couldn’t put him away. It goes to 3-2, the A’s send the runner, base hit, first and third one out. That got the A’s their run.
Mitre has got great sink on his pitches. He just to finish hitters when he’s ahead in the count.
Nice play by Jeter amazingly quick turn by Cano. Wow! Mitre is a ground ball machine. He’s doing alright.
As a former SS, all I can say to those who insist that Derek Jeter is a below average Shortstop, all I can say is you’re crazy…..
““Check out what Andruw Jones did at 19?
I remember Andru at 19. He was something. That home run he hit at the stadium…
But that’s the point – there are some guys who just have an innate talent to play the game that can’t be taught.
Montero right now is tracking in that kind of path.”
I know it’s so easy for us to fall in love with our own prospects, but, hot damn, there’s really something here.
Tim, Penny and Smoltz stink, Dice-K is quickly becoming a 100 million dollar bust and Clay Buchholz has been terrible ever since he threw that no-hitter. Under the circumstances, the Yankees aren’t in such bad shape considering how well their top 4 pitchers have been throwing.
4-0 O’s
“Mitre got his bacon saved on that DP.”
Has he always been this tentative? He’s molasses to the plate between pitches. And fielding the ball he looks like he’s moving in slow motion.
Maybe he’s just not used to the speed of game action?
Doreen
July 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Maine Yankee and Trisha -
ARe you guys talking about Lyme Disease?
My daughter was diagnosed recently via a blood test. We never found the text. It makes me very nervous.
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Yes Doreen. You need to find a Dr. that is lyme literate. Reg Dr don’t always believe it is as big a problem as it really is.
The Orioles are impossibly bad on the road in the AL East. They’re something along the lines of 1-16 or 1-17. Let’s hope they double their win total today.
Don’t worry though Smoltz will say after the game that he is “almost there.”
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still better than hearing Joba say that was the best stuff he’s had all year after he got rocked and spent the whole game nibbling.
doreen -
up here on cape cod, ticks are everywhere. the deer ticks that carry lyme disease are so small you can hardly see them.
lyme disease can be really serious and not just for humans. my manager just got a jack russell puppy that she brings behind the counter at work and the puppy gets a tick about every other day just being out an hour or so a day. luckily they are the bigger ones that can be seen and taken off easily.
you should google “lyme disease” and learn all about it. it can be gotten rid of quickly or it can last for years if not treated right.
That can’t be Cano. He hits a bases-clearing double with the bases load, and then gets out with the bases empty. Huh?? There’s an imposter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“it’s amazing that year in year out Cashman still can’t get enough rotation depth for this team.
meanwhile in Boston, Theo is scooping up Penny and Smoltz for the back end of his rotation on top of Wake, DiceK, Lester and Beckett.
not to mention Bucholz still in AAA.
We however are stuck with the likes of Sergio Mitre and nobody else in the event another starter goes down.”
Yeah, great job of talent evaluation on the part of Theo. With all of that pitching the Yankees are still in first place. The Yankees have Hughes, by the way, if they choose to stretch him out. And it doesn’t look like Mitre is hurting them.
Bucholz is not still in AAA. He is in their rotation.
Trisha -
My husband had it going back 10 to 12 years ago. It got treated with antibiotics and he was fine, but have a recurrence not long after. He went through a second course of antibiotics and has not had any sign of the disease since.
So, I don’t know the answer about whether or not you really ever get rid of it, or if something lies dormant.
Yeah, I meant tick, not text. Sometimes my fingers get ahead of me and my eyes don’t pick it up, for some reason.
I don’t blame you for not going berry picking. It stinks, frankly.
“meanwhile in Boston, Theo is scooping up Penny and Smoltz for the back end of his rotation on top of Wake, DiceK, Lester and Beckett.”
yeah I cry everyday thinking Cashman could have signed Smoltz.
42 year old pitchers with 7.00 ERA’s don’t grow on trees.
does that double mean that Cody is our next CF
Ransom doing his best A-Rod impersonation.
ransom can definitely hit a ball over the plate
That’s my CODY!
CB,
He slows down too much from the stretch. Messes up his tempo. Same problem Joba has.
They have to work on his tempo.
His stuff is good enough to be a servicable fifth starter on this team. He just has to clean up a few things, tempo being one of them.
Cody!! And btw Kay, Melky was headed to third, not Cano
Psyluk
July 26th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Tim, Penny and Smoltz stink, Dice-K is quickly becoming a 100 million dollar bust and Clay Buchholz has been terrible ever since he threw that no-hitter. Under the circumstances, the Yankees aren’t in such bad shape considering how well their top 4 pitchers have been throwing.
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at least theo tries to add depth, Cashman gets Mitre and no one else. so we’re stuck with some scrubs and Kei Igawa when things go bad. Im tired of this being a problem EVERY season.
** he HAD a recurrence. Wow, the brain certainly is fuzzy today.
I’m still amazed that someone with a below 200 BA is allowed on the Yankees MLB team.
Let A-Rod rest every few days. Ransom’s fine!
Argh. Failed attempt at a sac fly.
UNBELIEVEABLE
tim boat,
Mitre is better than Smoltz right now.
Also, the Yankees DID have good starting pitching depth when Hughes, Aceves, and Kennedy were the 6th, 7th, and 8th starters.
The unexpected transition of Hughes and Aceves to the set-up role, and Kennedy getting surgery really hurt things. Not to mention Wang becoming a total flop.
If you look at the Red Sox, their starters really have not performed much better this year. They might have more depth of brand names, but the results haven’t been any better.
If they don’t produce from this, I’lll be pissed. Come on Damon, we want to see #200 already.
From the Boston Globe blog:
COOPERSTOWN, N.Y. — In a funny scene before the induction ceremony, the three Red Sox owners, Larry Lucchino, Tom Werner, and John Henry, spent about 15 minutes talking to Yankees general manager Brian Cashman. Cashman is here to see Rickey Henderson’s induction. The three Sox owners and one Yankees executive even posed for a picture together.
“What a great guy Brian Cashman is,” said Henry.
Henry went on to explain that lot of his comments that he makes about the Yankees (think Star Wars) are in fun. Nothing personal.
2nd and 3rd…gees, come on guys
Please Johnny…………..
smoltz – LOL
to think ESPN and Gammons raved about his signing.
How about a HOPE Month next yr? It’s the coolest thing the Yanks have ever done, and I hate seeing it end.
Watching the Yanks line up to shake hands with George (the vet w/ALS) gave me goosebumps.
Really, are you serious???
nice hitting with RISP as usual
Wish we got something that inning.
That could be the ball game….
2nd & 3rd, 1 out, nobody scores. Now that takes talent.
W T F was that Damon? And to think I was sympathetic to your contract expiring.
Folks LOVE names. Especially those in the media who fawn all over the Red Sox like Gammons, Francesa and Sherman.
Both Gammons and Sherman said that Smoltz would be the “best starter in the AL by September”.
This, prior to his return.
John is 42. He’s had 5 elbow surgeries and is coming off major shoulder surgery. He’s barely a passable starter. He’s not dominating anybody, nor is he going to the rest of the way.
Its not about what John Smoltz was 10 years ago. Its about what he is NOW. Right now, he’s terrible. Too many surgeries and too many miles on that HOF arm.
The Yankees keep letting the A’s stay in these games by not getting the little things done. It cost them yesterday, hopefully it doesn’t cost them today.
You have to get in at least 1 of those runs, ESPECIALLY with a 2-0 count.
Needed those runs bad
Meanwhile, Hernandez pitching a no-no.
mitre escapes via grounder
braden escapes via pop-up
turns out Smoltz is classic case of buy low, sell lower.
“His stuff is good enough to be a servicable fifth starter on this team. He just has to clean up a few things, tempo being one of them.”
The thing that’s interesting about him is that his stuff is actually pretty good.
He’s got nice movement on his ball when he locates down. His command hasn’t been great and that’s what will be the cause of his problems.
He’s not the usual “feel”/ change speeds type pitcher that you’d slot in to the 5th slot mid season off the scrap heap. He’s got better stuff than that.
His stuff is pretty good but he does seem very rough in areas – tempo being one of them. It’s particularly odd for a guy with good natural movement and who predominantly throws one pitch to be that slow to the plate. He’s going to throw the sinker. Catch it and throw it.
3 more outs mitre……
Tim Boat you really are clueless.
I mean, come on. Do you really believe the crap you are typing?
Are you a closet red sox fan?
I’ll take the Yankees 2009 rotation over the Sox any day.
Sergio Mitre has pitched better than John Smoltz has so far. How can anybody rip Cashman for not signing Smoltz? He’s been terrible in Boston.
Leadoff single, which means a double w/a stolen base..here we go
“As a former SS, all I can say to those who insist that Derek Jeter is a below average Shortstop, all I can say is you’re crazy…..”
pat m-
don’t you know that you are overqualified to have rational judgements about the game playing shortstop at the triple a level ?
your experience clouds your decisions. everyone knows the best way to be an expert on the game is to have played as little as possible and watch a lot and have an advanced degree in something as removed from baseball as possible
The A’s are hitting good pitches today. They seem to have a great plan off Mitre today, just slapping everything to the opposite field.
“RDM
July 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
That could be the ball game….”
Thanks for having your username in bold – it makes it easier to ignore!
Time to get Mitre out
“still better than hearing Joba say that was the best stuff he’s had all year after he got rocked and spent the whole game nibbling.”
Yeah but Joba has more than made up for it. That goes a long way toward assuaging any kind of anger for those statements.
“yeah I cry everyday thinking Cashman could have signed Smoltz.
42 year old pitchers with 7.00 ERA’s don’t grow on trees.”
I got a great belly laugh out of that! And no, I don’t have a huge belly.
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Miggs, there is no way I can overstate this so you just have to beleive it. It kills my soul not to be watching the Sux get pounded in real time. I will settle for second best, and that is watching the rewind on NESN. But that just isn’t the same as being there. (But since I don’t get YES rewinds, there can’t be any question today about which I will watch.)
miggs
July 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Tim Boat you really are clueless.
I mean, come on. Do you really believe the crap you are typing?
Are you a closet red sox fan?
I’ll take the Yankees 2009 rotation over the Sox any day.
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I’m not talking about the front end of the pitching rotations, you dolt. I’m talking about depth and the CONCEPT of adding pitching depth that Theo seems to understand in Boston but Cashman has never grasped the past few years and we get stuck with guys like Mitre or have to scramble and make trades like in 2005
prediction…..Yanks will get Rios by Friday
randy l.
July 26th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
doreen -
up here on cape cod, ticks are everywhere. the deer ticks that carry lyme disease are so small you can hardly see them.
lyme disease can be really serious and not just for humans. my manager just got a jack russell puppy that she brings behind the counter at work and the puppy gets a tick about every other day just being out an hour or so a day. luckily they are the bigger ones that can be seen and taken off easily.
you should google “lyme disease” and learn all about it. it can be gotten rid of quickly or it can last for years if not treated right.
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You are right. If caught early not a problem. I believe I had it for 10yrs before I found out. Lots of muscle problems. I have a guess that Baldelli has it. He had it in HS and i’m guessing it came back. He has alot of the symptoms. A guy named Ben Petrick that played for the Rockies had to retire because of it.
As for the post that said Wang was a flop. The problem is that Wang was injured. Wang is not a flop. He needed and still needs proper rehab. It is really not right to call him a flop.
“I know it’s so easy for us to fall in love with our own prospects, but, hot damn, there’s really something here.”
No, he’s the real deal. Just trace out the evolution of perception on Montero by the guys at BA.
They weren’t really all that high on Montero to start the season. Angel Villalona was though of much more highly, for instance, by BA.
But this year has been indisputable evidence because he really is tracking along pathways that only very special players move in through the minors.
Jim Callis this year has now described him as one of the best bats in the minors.
From the BA hot sheet this past week they said that if Montero has another month like the one he just had he’d likely be the BA minor league player of the year.
It’s not just yankee fans.
“I’ll take the Yankees 2009 rotation over the Sox any day.”
And twice on Sundays!
this mitre… damn.
Jete and Cano putting on a nice show in the field today
Kay, what’s a double tray?
Room service double play grounder…..thank you very much
Sergio does have good movement and is worth rolling out there for a few more starts and see what he really is….As pointed out by CB & SJ, his tempo and situational wareness needs improvement……He deserves more starts…..
I wonder what will happen if Smoltz never “finds it”. Will the Sox just release him? Or will they trade Buchholz for a bat and allow Smoltz to be the 5th starter?
beautiful day outside and 2/3rd of the “Legends” seats are empty. The front office need to cut prices further.
“I would take the Yankees 2009 rotation over the Sox any day” ….SERIOUSLY?? Yanks are 0-8 against them…SERIOUSLY??? Come on…
RS-
I guess they’re gonna wait for Dice to return.
RDM, I am not meaning to be critical but I think you may panic too quickly. (Not saying bad things can’t happen in a game, but they don’t always. So better to stay with the assumption that all is good unless and until you are forced to admit otherwise. And that isn’t until you hear the final score of the game.)
JMO
Trisha you crack me up.
Yeah Tim Boat I’m a “dolt”. I know nothing about the game.
Aceves, Hughes, Kennedy, Mitre. Going into the season Mitre was 9th on the depth chart for starters.
Buccholz going into the season was the Sox 6th starter. Smoltz and Penny are in their rotation.
Your stupidity amazes me.
I saw Mitre pitch a lot in Florida. He was pitching with an elbow ligament that was hanging by a thread but was still inducing a lot of groundballs.
The Marlins had a horrible defensive infield and that didn’t help him.
The one thing the guy did well was bulldog his way through starts. He didn’t pitch afraid and he attacked hitters. All that with a bad elbow.
He’s not an all star by any means. However, he is a guy that if they can get him to throw more first pitch strikes and quicken his tempo from the stretch, can help this team in this slot.
He’s not a “name” but, he is effective, especially in Yankee Stadium, by being a groundball pitcher.
5 innings 3 runs – take it and run or have a VERY short leash next inning. Girardi always pushes it in instances like this.
ok, Mitre, nice inning…..one more please and then we’ll think about another, would be nice if the Yanks can score some more runs
LOL @ Pete’s Twitter
“Somebody just e-mailed suggesting the Yanks trade Montero for Homer Bailey. And with that I’m taking the rest of the day off.”
“Girardi always pushes it in instances like this.”
That’s not a compliant either, because our bullpen is so bad until you get to the 8th inning, there’s not much he can do.
I told you snitches
Yankees scouting Ian Snell right now.
Legends seats suck. Take down the moat.
Anyway, Mitre has some nice stuff. He needs to learn how to play it better.
“What makes you think just Girardi is against it? Suppose the organization is against it? Or, as Girardi said, they are going to “talk about it”.”
Because he said before the game that it’s very unlikely they’ll call up Jackson.
Pretty obvious…
Damn it. There goes the no hitter in Boston.
“As for the post that said Wang was a flop. The problem is that Wang was injured. Wang is not a flop.”
Don’t worry, I completely agree. I probably worded it the wrong way. What I should have said was that Wang’s results have been a flop compared to what was expected from him.
I truly believe the Yankees could have handled his rehab better, but even so, there was no way they expected him to have just 1 win heading into August. When your #2 or #3 starter is 1-6 this late in the season, then obviously the depth of the rotation is going to take a hit.
“I would take the Yankees 2009 rotation over the Sox any day” ….SERIOUSLY?? Yanks are 0-8 against them…SERIOUSLY??? Come on”
And Yanks are in first place.
Do you remember years when Detroit, Seattle, and KC couldn’t win worth a damn but owned the Yankees? What would you say in those years? That you’d prefer their rotations????
on gardner’s broken thumb. i once broke my glove side left thumb warming up before a game (errant throw from the other team) . i flattened it out and wrapped it up and didn’t miss any games. it healed a little funny ( i still have a bump there), but the point is depending on the break and where it is gardener may be back sooner than you’d think.
the fact he played with it shows it was in a place that he could work around it. if he was playing semi pro like i was he’d probably keep playing because that’s just for fun and why would you not want to play?
the yankees won’t let him play with it, but i’ll bet he could. and he’ll probably be back sooner than later with his speed.
could a possible
Milledge/Snell to NY deal be worked out, we shall see.
Tex UGH, Posada UGH, Jetes UGH today…
Who is in first place? Head to head matchup means nothing in baseball.
The Yankees won the season series against the Sox and Rays last year. How did that work out?
RDM knows this. He’s just looking for attention with his clueless posts.
This is a guy who ripped Arod being in the lineup yesterday and ripped him being OUT of the lineup today.
That’s all you need to know about where he’s coming from in here.
ORIOLES 5-0.
My heart is breaking.
But I will continue to watch the Yankee game…
Aceves, Hughes, Kennedy, Mitre. Going into the season Mitre was 9th on the depth chart for starters.
Buccholz going into the season was the Sox 6th starter. Smoltz and Penny are in their rotation.
Your stupidity amazes me.
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LOL. you count Kennedy on the depth chart.
i rest my case.
Can we score some runs???
“That’s not a compliant either, because our bullpen is so bad until you get to the 8th inning, there’s not much he can do.”
More nuggets of wisdom from the village idiot. The Yankees have one of the best bullpens in baseball.
Keep ‘em comin’!
My daughter’s doctor first told me it was probably in her system for 3-4 weeks. But another doctor in the same practice told me it was possible she’d had it before, and the blood test only picks up the fact that the antibodies are present.
She’s been taking antibiotics for almost 2 weeks so far, and she’s supposed to take 30 days’ worth, so she’s about half-way through.
How would one go about finding a “Lyme literate” doctor? Lyme specialist, NJ, for instance?
Trish, the problem w/the Yanks this year is the same as in the past few years…They can’t beat LA or Boston. They are 3rd/4th best team in the AL. Until they can beat those teams on the road, same old result.
I just pulled a groin watching that.
Ian snell is horrible
I always thought the idea that John Smoltz was a low risk signing misses the boat.
Yeah, his contract is for one year and “only” 5M. But it’s for a 42-year old guy coming off major shoulder surgery, who’s had other operations in his career. The real risk here is not the money, but the missed opportunity to make the playoffs and the added revenue from that. Rather than go after famous names that are over the hill, it might be better to spend even less for someone who’s got more to offer in 2009.
And if that committed money and rolster spot keeps them from acquiring another, potentially more useful piece, then it’s more risk.
Yanks will look back to the failure in the 4th
miggs
July 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
“That’s not a compliant either, because our bullpen is so bad until you get to the 8th inning, there’s not much he can do.”
More nuggets of wisdom from the village idiot. The Yankees have one of the best bullpens in baseball.
Keep ‘em comin’!
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who do they have after Rivera and the 2 Phils?
“That’s not a compliant either, because our bullpen is so bad until you get to the 8th inning, there’s not much he can do.”
Our bullpen is bad????? Here I was thinking it was great. I would take Aceves, Hughes, Coke, and now even Bruney, 7 days a week! And we know they don’t all pitch the 8th inning.
“Sergio does have good movement and is worth rolling out there for a few more starts and see what he really is…”
Pat,
Just a gut feeling – but I think he’ll get better from here, unless he runs into a dead arm period (which he very well might…)
He still looks a bit like a player getting back into game speed coming off the injury.
He has natural movement on his ball. That’s real substance. He’s not just a “smoke and mirrors” kind of guy.
For a fifth starter that might be ok. I do worry about his command, but again, coming off the injury that will likely get better with innings.
I wish the Yankees would score a couple more runs.
I’m pretty satisfied with Mitre’s efforts. He’s a good competitor out there. There’s a calmness around him.
Yes, paying a guy $20 mill and he gets a day off. I disagree. Wish we all could be MLB players….you play your best at all times to win, period. A Rod isn’t injured. Damon gets a day off a week for whatever reason. There is no reason they should get days off, it is thier job.
ORIOLES 5-0.
My heart is breaking.
But I will continue to watch the Yankee game…
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Trisha,
why is your heart breaking…..are you a RS fan?
Patrick,
He is speaking for the entire organization. He’s not going off the reservation on his own on any personnel move.
Since Cashman is in Cooperstown today, he’s not available to comment on the subject.
It’s amazing that Ellsbury has 44 stolen bases but the Red Sox seem to waste a lot of them because the guys hitting behind him are in massive slumps.
Hey, the Orioles rook is one-hitting the Suxers!!
Oh yeah.
Trisha’s heart is breaking because she isn’t watching the Sox get killed.
I take as much joy in seeing them lose as anyone, but Trisha takes it to a new level.
And that’s a compliment to her.
Yes, paying a guy $20 mill and he gets a day off. I disagree. Wish we all could be MLB players….you play your best at all times to win, period. A Rod isn’t injured. Damon gets a day off a week for whatever reason. There is no reason they should get days off, it is thier job.
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RDM,
they give players days off because they will get better results over the season when they do. Good managers don’t forget about tomorrow.
Hughes in yet?
Hello All,
My name’s Jim. I’m the President of the Nick Swisher Fan Club.
I’m also the only member.
`Cause one is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do.
http://bucsbits.mlblogs.com/ar.....backs.html
Pretty intelligent comment there RDM.
Especially since ARod has major hip surgery and they have been quite public about the fact that he will get rest once a week.
How much he makes isn’t an issue. If you don’t like how much ballplayers make, watch little league games. It will keep in line with your comments. Think of it as a kinship between you and the little leaguers.
Yankees Scouting Ian Snell
By Steve Adams [July 26 at 1:29pm CST]
According to Jenifer Langosch at MLB.com, the Yankees have scouts in attendance to watch Ian Snell throw today at Triple-A Indianapolis.
The Yankees are known to be looking for a replacement for Chien-Ming Wang, and Snell has absolutely dominated since asking to be demoted to Indianapolis to straighten himself out. Snell has allowed just two earned runs through 32.1 innings, while striking out 43 and walking just 12.
Despite Snell’s big league struggles and $4.25MM guaranteed salary next season, general manager Neal Huntington says he won’t sell low on the right-hander:
“Teams are still hoping to bottom fish and we’re still not ready to just give the guy away,” Huntington said. “At this point, his four or five strong outings haven’t increased his value [externally]. We’re not talented enough and deep enough as an organization to just give away a player that has Major League ability, as challenging as it can be sometimes.”
Freakin’ Kurt Suzuki must be hitting .800 against the Yankees this season. Every single time he’s at the plate he gets on base.
I hate suzki
6-0 O’s
How to get 12 outs out of your pen.
Coke for 3
Hughes for 6
Mo for 3
PIECE OF CAKE
markakis with a homer
This is a bit surprising but Joe obviously wants this game and doesn’t want to make the same mistake as yesterday.
“Hughes in yet?”
he bridges to Mo not Coke.
ian snell? how bout brian bannister?
6-0 orioles.
“He is speaking for the entire organization. ”
Well he’s speaking for himself by saying that they don’t want Jackson to come up and sit on the bench. It’s Girardi’s decision to sit him or not. If Jackson comes up he should play which is why I said what I said.
Bottom line – Jackson is the right fit for the team right now. The Yankees CANNOT let Cabrera be the everyday CF, he isn’t good enough to hold it down for a month+.
Hm that’s a bit odd, pulling Mitre after only 75 pitches?
Looks like we’ll be seeing Coke, Bruney, Hughes, Mo. What does Melancon have to do to get a freakin opportunity? He gets called up the first time and Girardi never uses him so when he DOES get a shot he sucks. Same story this time around.
Another knee jerk panic move by Girardi. All Mitre has been doing is getting ground ball double plays, and the one single is a ground ball that just barely gets past Mitre. He’s only at 74 pitches!
This isn’t a case of just take what you can get and hand it over. This guy has shown an ability to get out of his own jams, and now you are going to have to burn the pen for 4 innings worth of set up men the day before a huge series against Tampa Bay.
Sometimes he leaves his starters in too long, but this is not the case. You have to give him a chance to get the ground ball and give you the extra inning.
This game is NOT in the bag yet.
Looks like Girardi learned his lesson.
Anyone watching the Hall of Fame inductions? Rickey’s up and every time he says “I” it looks like he wants to punch himself in the face lmao.
Excuses, excuses SJ….looking at the schedule, Yanks have off days 8/3, 8/20, and 8/24,,,,there is 3 days A Rod can have off
Smoltz is serving up more meatballs Chef Boyardee.
Good move.
Mitre is just way too hittable and the way the offense has gone in the deep freeze the past four innings, you can’t let Mitre lose the game for you.
Mitre stuff is impressive. Pacing and putting hitters away are two areas that he can improve on.
I hope Posada can’t hear the hip hip guy.
“Trisha’s heart is breaking because she isn’t watching the Sox get killed.
I take as much joy in seeing them lose as anyone, but Trisha takes it to a new level.
And that’s a compliment to her.”
Thanks Miggs!
If he is saying “they” don’t want him sitting if they called him up, don’t you think he and Cashman had this conversation the moment Gardner got hurt?
Perhaps they reassess after the game.
However, Joe Girardi doesn’t say anything about personnel moves in a vacuum. That information comes from the top down, not the bottom up.
Hmmm…
I believe, yesterday, amongst the doom and gloom, I predicted 5.1 innings, 3 runs from Mitre.
If Coke does his job, this is another solid, if unspectacular outing, from our 5th starter.
me thinks Yanks will lose this game. ::(
you all are unreal? leave pettite in, and its bad, take mitre out, bad, dont use melancon, bad. use aceves, bad. how bout you let the manager manage the game. we do have the second best record in baseball. i think he knows what he is doing.
Got it RS.. Thanks for the clarification, appreciate it.
RDM
July 26th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Excuses, excuses SJ….looking at the schedule, Yanks have off days 8/3, 8/20, and 8/24,,,,there is 3 days A Rod can have off.
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Glad you’re not ARod’s doctor.
Try to make sense. Just try. See what happens.
Why is Smoltz so bad? I know he’s 42 and coming off surgery, but he’s throwing 92-93 mph. Is it bad command of his fastball or offspeed pitches?
“Trisha,
why is your heart breaking…..are you a RS fan?”
Greg, nah. I just enjoy watching the Sux get pounded.
I like Hughes for 9 and MO for 3
Ellis will get run(s) in.
“Despite Snell’s big league struggles and $4.25MM guaranteed salary next season, general manager Neal Huntington says he won’t sell low on the right-hander:
“Teams are still hoping to bottom fish and we’re still not ready to just give the guy away,””
Snell, on his own, asked that the Pirates demote him to AAA. He asked for that.
There’s no way the Pirates can afford to pay Snell’s salary this year while he’s in the minors of his own volition and next year given the uncertainty.
The yankees should be scouting him. There will be no market for him given his salary and the year he’s had.
OH FOR F#%& SAKE!!!!!!!!!!
Darn it…Coke is prone to giving up the long ball…
That’s what happens when you do Coke for too long.
JFC Cokey.
not two days in a row
Doreen
July 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
My daughter’s doctor first told me it was probably in her system for 3-4 weeks. But another doctor in the same practice told me it was possible she’d had it before, and the blood test only picks up the fact that the antibodies are present.
She’s been taking antibiotics for almost 2 weeks so far, and she’s supposed to take 30 days’ worth, so she’s about half-way through.
How would one go about finding a “Lyme literate” doctor? Lyme specialist, NJ, for instance?
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I found mine from word of mouth. Only a couple here in the state that really treat it. My reagular Dr. didn’t think I had it. Went through about 2yrs of test and specilists before I found my lyme Dr. Go to ilads.org for more info.
Like I said, a panic move by Girardi, and it comes back to bite him.
Mark Ellis? Really? Good grief, Charlie Brown.
Coke fails.
Oh boy. That’s not what I was hoping for.
Ellis: Yankee Killer
5-4 GEES
I never like Coke, period.
Not excuses, logic, something that escapes you.
They have said over and over, the off days won’t matter.
Get your IQ above double digits then we will talk.
Coke saw Ace have his bad outing yesterday and decided he’d get his in now as well. No sense saving it for TB.
“Excuses, excuses SJ….looking at the schedule, Yanks have off days 8/3, 8/20, and 8/24,,,,there is 3 days A Rod can have off”
Idiocracy. Its everywhere.
Girardi’s hooked on Coke, and now we’re in trouble.
SJ44,
You are forgetting one key fact. Girardi is in charge of who plays and who sits.
By saying that “they” don’t want Jackson to come up and sit on the bench that means he already has it in his head that if Jackson were to be called up, he’d sit.
It’s Girardi’s call who sits, if he’s already made this determination we know what would happen if Austin gets called up.
Hence why I said Cashman should pull Girardi aside and say “Look we’re calling this guy up and I want you to play him”
Did I ever mention how much I despise Phil Coke? He gives up way too many HR.
well… crap.
Golden opportunity to gain a game on Boston and TB today…no A Rod, 2nd and 3rd and 1 out 0 runs…takes the cake
great now Coke is going to melt down like Aceves.
Why was Mitre taken out after 75 pitches? Yes there where lefty’s coming up. but it was a bit early imo.
This has all the markings of a 2009 Yankees comeback. I’m confident they will pull this one out.
here comes the panic……
might be time to sign off for awhile.
They better not lose the game after having 2nd and 3rd, 1 out and not scoring and Mitre keeping them in the game like that.
Sometimes Girardi panics, and today is a prime example. Yesterday was not a case of leaving Pettitte in too long, you have to let him get out of his own jams sometimes if he’s locked in a bit. Mitre has been getting tons of GIDP to get out of jams and his base hit was a ground ball. He’s not fatigued, leave him in the game.
You have to show some faith in these guys sometimes.
Well, at least we are within 1 run.
like I said, Bullpen is weak before the 8th inning.
Splitting a series with a team like Oakland is inexcusable!
That said, we have had more embarrassing series loses.
Cheer up folks, we still have 4 innings to score.
Have a nice day, ballgame. Yanks better get this turned around for TB and Boston and LA….
“Hence why I said Cashman should pull Girardi aside and say “Look we’re calling this guy up and I want you to play him””
Jackson is not ready for everyday duty in the majors. Period. End of story. He needs a full year in AAA.
It’s a one run game.
We’ve come back from worse.
I need a 6 run 6th!!!
someone remind Girardi that Hinske is still on the team.
“You have to show some faith in these guys sometimes.”
Matt, Mitre is not Andy Pettite. Mitre is a guy coming off TJ surgery, who hasn’t pitched much. Andy is a long time veteran, who has a few WS rings in his safe at home. I wouldn’t have pulled Mitre, but Girardi pulling him isn’t a totally brain dead move either.
I’m predicting a comeback clutchy-Cabrera style. The Melkman will deliver.
Yeah Matt how could Girardi forget that Ellis is a slugger that eats up lefties. He should have known that Ellis would get lucky on a slider out of the zone.
Geez, I criticize Girardi when he does something wrong but taking Mitre out was not the wrong move. Sergio was barely hanging on all game, the double plays saved him all game long.
Do you stick with an unproven guy whos been saved by DP’s all day or go with a pretty reliable reliever facing the bottom of the order? I think going with Coke was the right move.
It was a good hit by Ellis. Some of you never give credit to other team.
RDM is it a promise. Are you really leaving today.
CANO TOOK THE FIRST PITCH!
CANO TOOK A PITCH!
Wow.
Mitre is a not even a league average pitcher who barely skated through the last game he pitched staked with a large lead and had given up nine baserunners in five innings.
What “faith” should Girardi show in a guy who has no track record.
Coke has done the job all year, just like Aceves. The bullpen has just hit an unexpected rough patch. It happens.
Patrick,
If they called Jackson up, he wouldn’t be playing that much.
They are going to platoon Austin and Melky in CF.
Perhaps they think its imprudent to just calling him up to be a defensive replacement with inconsistent AB’s.
My point is, Girardi isn’t making the decision on his own. He and Cashman talk everyday. They are on the same page whichever they decide on this subject.
“Jackson is not ready for everyday duty in the majors. Period. End of story. He needs a full year in AAA.”
Okay and where do I say he should play everyday in the majors? Go read my posts then comment, I’m sick of repeating myself.
Oh well, let’s get that run back.
I don’t think Girardi needs to play AJax all the time, but he does need to see action.
Its disappointing to hear they’re looking elsewhere because I think he’s the best option right now.
If they can start him 1-2 games a week and use him as a defensive replacement and a pinch runner I think its worth it to bring him up.
The guy can do a lot, he won’t just rot away on the bench. He’ll be used in most games, but won’t start many. I have no problem with that.
“You have to show some faith in these guys sometimes.”
Really selective in your criticisms, aren’t you? Pettitte had surrendered 4 baserunners in 6+ innings. Mitre had surrendered 9 in 5+. Yes, he was getting double plays, but he’s a 5th starter for a reason, and he had been in jams all day long. Coke’s been quite good, and I don’t see a problem with going to the bullpen when they are clearly better than your 5th starter. Mitre gave Girardi what he wanted. Asking more was asking for trouble. Coke just happened to throw another meatball.
Melky > Cano
They **aren’t** going to platoon Jackson and Cabrera. Sorry for the typo.
Would it hurt to send in A-Rod to pinch hit here?
And as I say that, Ransom rifles a double down the line. As usual, I’m an idiot.
Can Jeter get the run in this time?
Cody is really impressing me today
take all the rest you need arod, cody’s got it covered.
Who is this guy and what has he done with Cody Ransom?
Ransom ?
Cody takes that ball for Ransom!!
Ransom > All
bottom of the lineup doing their thing again
lets see if they can push em over
chase this kid out of the game
Ransom trying to make A-Rod look bad.
SJ – Don’t bother with RDM – 2 years ago it didn’t have a room temperature IQ and apparently nothing has changed.
It used to troll Mark Feinsands blog when I posted there. It was better known as Sam (he could never make its mind what sex it was). Google the email address it here with its name and you’ll see what I mean.
I thought he’d given up his idiotic trolling. Apparently not.
“thinks Yanks will lose this game. ::(”
Not worried at all. And that’s the truth.
I blame A-Rod.
Talk about dejavu.
1 out, 2nd and 3rd AGAIN.
seriously if they don’t score…..
SJ44,
He wouldn’t be playing much because Girardi has already made the decision that he wouldn’t be playing much.
I’m saying that the smart move (in my opinion) would be to call Jackson up and not just use him as a defensive replacement but start him when lefties pitch. That’s plenty of playing time for a guy like Jackson.
We are essentially saying the same thing here I hope you realize. My initial point was that I want Cashman to convince Girardi to give Jackson some playtime. Girardi is obviously of the opinion right now that Jackson would sit on the bench. I want Cashman to change that.
Way to go boys, nice rally!
captain clutch.
It’s a brand new ball game!!
O M EFFING G
MILKMAN, RANSOM, AND JETES COMBINED!
Jetah is good as those first pitch swings
Captain Clutch comes through.
CAPTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
They don’t give up.
I’m surprised people still doubt they have the ability to fight back and call a game when they’re behind.
Jeter > You
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the 2009 NYY, the comeback kids.
That’s more like it, Captain.
Captain Clutch! No Damon needs that number 200.
Great job capatain!
If Ransom was out at 2b I wonder how Giradi would have reacted?
There we go, Jeter making up for his last at bat in the same spot.
I guess that evened it out then. He hits a sac fly/ground ball in each case and he gets in a total of 2 runs, so same result.
Guess the game isn’t over after all.
What a CLASSIC Jeter moment.
LOL! Everyone swinging at first pitch with good results!
Cody Ransom with 2 doubles. Already this game is a Yankees classic.
All the bridge-jumpers clamoring to squeeze back onto the bridge. Don’t worry, there’s still room for you.
Y’all see where worrying gets ya!
I’m sure it takes minutes off your life.
Don’t worry unless and until you have real reason to worry!!!!!
Tex’s friend – I’m with you on Girardi. That’s why you just need to gloss over the GMing whenever Girardi does anything.
nice pick off
There’s something you don’t see everyday.
Stinks that Damon just lined a double. This could be a big moment.
Weird to see that happen to Jeter.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive) July 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
50 “Robbie can’t hit with RISP” comments – just went backspace backspace backspace highlight delete.
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post of the day.
Jeter should have dived in.
that pick off hurts now.
Braden getting knocked around.
He was taking it for granted there and wasn’t ready for a play. A little too nonchalant there and it burned him.
damn, that pickoff was awesome.
proved costly. but still, sweet pickoff.
fargen bastage.
say it, Mike. Say it.
Fallacy of the pre-determined outcome = 1 shot.
Johnny Be GOOD!
“They **aren’t** going to platoon Jackson and Cabrera. Sorry for the typo.”
Ah I see, that was a bit confusing when I first read your post.
Here’s what I feel, tell me what you think. Melky can’t be left as the everyday CF, he’s simply not good enough. We’ve seen it happen before, he will get exposed out there playing every day.
Jackson, while not ready to be a starter, can still provide good defense and maybe something with the bat. Considering Melky’s weak side is righty it would be smart to let Jackson play vs lefties.
I don’t see the problem with that. Am I missing something?
The classic moment was the clutch single, not the pickoff…
“Jeter > You”
Braden’s PO move >>> Jetes
MARKY BABY!
TEX!!!
Come’on Tex, make this inning HUGE.
Break out inning!
Tex got the message!
Damon > Jeter
Tex > Jeter
I’m surprised that OAK is sticking with this kid.
Wow. Talk about leaving your pitcher out there too long. Some stubborn faith shown by the manager.
They pulled Smoltz after 5 innings.
The GREAT thing about this team, something we haven’t seen for YEARS here is, guys pick up other guys when mistakes are made.
Coke gives up a HR, guys pick him up. Jete gets picked off, Damon and Tex pick him up.
That’s the sign of a championship team. They just keep grinding. Great to see.
me
July 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
me thinks Yanks will lose this game. ::(
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dum dum
Captain Clutch gets picked off 2nd…that is Clutch….no excuse for that, could be 8-5…and if Clutch got the runne(s) in the 4th in…9-5…
Come on Jorge.
This guy is on the ropes. Let’s finish him off.
Oh well, Mr. Beam is going to have to wait until they “put a bow on it”.
Third and fourth time through the line up Braden didn’t have the stuff to show the yanks another look.
They’ve been on his pitches all inning.
The yankees line up adjusted and Braden couldn’t.
dumb = people who use >’s
Phil for 2
might want to save some for Tampa
Jorge can’t concentrate with all of that racket going on behind him.
James July 26th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
dumb = people who use >’s
why did you use it then
This pitcher is SO close to being done.
Walk to Jorge.
Finally he’s out.
Thanks for leaving him in to get pounded!
The one thing I’ve noticed about this team, whenever they get behind they always fight back. Even if they are behind by A LOT of runs you always seem them make up some ground and continue to fight.
I really love the never-die attitude of this team.
It would be really nice to take this game, go into Tampa well rested with your 3 best pitchers starting.
haha cause i’m dumb, obviously.
“Captain Clutch gets picked off 2nd…that is Clutch….no excuse for that, could be 8-5…and if Clutch got the runne(s) in the 4th in…9-5…”
Enough with the IFs. Jeter’s teammates picked him up. That’s all that matters.
RDM – Run along Sam/Russ – wont be long before you are banned here too, I’m sure.
Get ready Phil Youuuse
Some more runs would be nice.
Lets go, Godzilla.
Not sure I love the idea of using Hughes for 2 innings before the Tampa series.
If matzui hits it out i get my wish if a 6 run 6th…
Bottom of 6th Bal 6 RS 1
Patrick,
Personally, I’d call up Jackson and even if you use as a defensive replacement/pinch runner, occasional AB, you get another athlete on the roster, which they need.
Perhaps they feel Austin would be overmatched right now. I don’t know because I haven’t seen Austin play at all this year.
I do know that if Cervelli wasn’t overmatched, I can’t see how Austin would be.
Hopefully, they reconsider.
Or, trade for Rios! lol
Oh no, Pete’s lover boy is injured. Thank heavens we don’t have to hear about this overrated loser for awhile.
“Finally he’s out.
Thanks for leaving him in to get pounded!”
Are you watching YES? Kay and O’Neill had a very interesting discussion on the reasons for that, and honestly, they are talking sense. Oakland is playing for the future. If Dallas Braden is to be a centerpiece of that future, he needs to experience getting out of jams with a high pitch count. He couldn’t do it that time, but that is smart managing, believe it or not. Braden will learn his lessons.
What the hell was that, Hideki?
He just COMPLETELY missed the plate on 3 straight pitches. Why would you swing on 3-0? Makes absolutely no sense. Who’s to say he doesn’t walk you and then fall behind the next hitter too, where a base hit could score 2 rather than 1?
Matsui, it’s okay as long as you hit two home runs next game.
>dumb = people who use >’s
GFYS
Oh….. that sucked on a 3-0 count
Now aren’t you ashamed of yourselves if you had already given up on this game?
J/K
I know those things can’t be helped, truly. Cuz nobody would choose to be stressed out over feeling calm and hopeful.
Hernandez still in the game for the O’s. Gave up one run. Hope he wins this game!!! (Meaning that he gets the W rather than the pen saving it if things go downhill; he’s already pitched through 5 so he is eligible for the W)
SJ – that sounds a lot like how Brett Gardner was used at first. For a month, I could see it. More than that, you risk retarding AJ’s development.
But I’ll take Alex Rios as Gardner’s replacement.
I don’t mind turning Matsui loose on 3-0 in that situation.
You have Swisher on deck, who isn’t a good hitter with RISP, and Matsui has great 2 out numbers and has had good swings today.
It didn’t work but, I like taking the risk.
“Not sure I love the idea of using Hughes for 2 innings before the Tampa series.”
I agree somewhat. But you have to play to win the game.
Its too bad they couldn’t scratch another run or 2 across…maybe then they could have gotten Melancon some work or used Bruney for the 7th.
But this game is just as important as tomorrow’s game. Its important not to forget that.
Theoretically Hughes goes 2 today and can’t pitch tomorrow. But you have Aceves to pitch the 8th tomorrow if needed.
SJ44,
I’d love Rios too, despite his troubles this year he is a plus defender in all 3 OF spots.
Agreed, I don’t think Jackson would be overmatched. I’d also hope that he gets more play time than the occasional AB and defensive replacement. Give him a few starts a week vs lefties, especially considering Melky is worse vs lefties.
How much could it hurt Jackson to get his feet wet for a month? In fact, it could really help his development, especially because he gets to work with Long.
I just don’t see any other option in AAA.
Matsui swinging 3-0 = FAIL.
Hideki’s been around a while. How could he muff that up?
I don’t think there is any question that Posada and Matsui have the worst ABs of anyone on the team.
Even Ransom won’t swing 3-0.
Papi is such garbage these days. I’m guessing he misses the juice.
Okay it’s way too nice out to stay inside, I’m going to go chill and listen on the radio. Enjoy the rest of the game everyone. Hopefully we hear more about Gardner’s potential replacement after the game.
Lets go Hughes! Lets go Yanks!
CC’s pitching tomorrow, right? If all goes well we could get by tomorrow without Yuuuuse, and go with Aceves/Bruney to get to Mo.
Girardi should use Bruney for the 8th. Hughes is up there facing the 2-3-4 hitters right now. You can’t use Hughes for 2 innings before the Tampa series, and Bruney has shown that he is getting sharper with more work lately. He will be facing the weaker hitters as you get down in the lineup and this is the perfect chance to get him some confidence back in a bigger spot.
You can have Aceves warming up to back him up just in case if you really want, but you have to start giving Bruney a chance again because he really lengthens this pen a ton if he gets it going again.
“He just COMPLETELY missed the plate on 3 straight pitches. Why would you swing on 3-0? ”
I’d have more respect for you Matt, if you posted the same thing when Tex swung at 3-0 yesterday.
Micheal Kay needs to shut up.
Matsui just missed that pitch. Watch the game, post less.
Gameday says there was an injury delay. Can someone fill us in?
“Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY July 26th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Micheal Kay needs to shut up.”
That might be tough, being that he’s an announcer. :rolleyes:
Bruney in a two-run game you really want to win? Have you lost your mind?
Holy crap. Hughes just hit 97 on Gameday
Nice. Yuuuuusie hit 97 according to Gameday.
he might touch 98 mph this season
NASTY!
96 on the corner? Unhittable.
Gameday says there was an injury delay. Can someone fill us in?
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Jorge took a foul tip off his right shoulder. He seems ok, thankfully.
Did Matsui swing at a 3-0 pitch w/runners on 1st and 2nd?
According to Gameday: orlando Cabrera flied out.
According to Yahoo: he walked.
LOL. Two games going on in parallel universes?
Hughes looks freaking fantastic.
Its not just the velocity, its the location, his demeanor.
He’s really impressive right now.
Cards 2 Phi 7 bottom of 6th Lugo 2 throwing errors
Bal 6 RS 1 top of 7th
Pete’s right – Hughs’ work this year bears striking resemblance to Mo in ’96.
Fundemental baseball Matsui, that was bad
seems like the halladay trade proposals are not working out…
what exactly would the yanks need to give up to get him? Can they do something without hughes / joba / jesus / ajax in the mix?
OK, Pet Peeve:
It’s HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHughes, not YOUSE (much like HHHHHHHouston, not youston, HHHHHHHuge (Al Michaels) not youge)
sorry, thanks.
didn’t pete go on a rant last year chastising people wondering about Hughes’ velocity – saying he never pitched in the upper 90′s?
Kay shut the ….. up. He wasn’t aggressive as a starter last year. BUT this year he was.
HHUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
STrIKE thRee!
wow
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughes
im kinda ashamed to admit i just cracked up at Kays “dandruff inning” comment
A Rod for Halladay….
GOD DAMN I’m sorry Pete 97 inside corner.
He’s on PHIRE!!!
Hughes obviously needs to take fist pumping lessons from Jobber and Papelhead
Wow! 97 down and in. Disgusting
Wow! 97 down and in. Disgusting
Good pitching Hughessssssss
Hughes hit 98 on that last pitch. He’s throwing ALOT harder out of the pen.
Wonderphil.
Looks like the Cardinals’ honeymoon with Lugo is over.
A Rod then could get every 5th day off in Toronto……
He just blew Cust away.
I’ve always been a fan of Hughes as a top-of-the-rotation starter. But with Mariano get on in years, pulling a Pappelbon with Phil and turning a good starter into a stellar closer doesn’t sound like the worst idea I’ve ever heard. Melancon’s ceiling is more than of a high-end setup man than a closer.
In 2014, Phil Hughes will pitch 6 perfect games, finishing the season at 23-2 with a 1.14 ERA and 314 K’s.
me believes Ellis will own Hughes next inning.
Hughes needs his own big time entrance song.
Phil Franchise is just fantastic. What he’s doing is unreal.
John Rodriguez has been on Scranton DL past couple weeks. Not sure how ready he is for action
“Matsui just missed that pitch. Watch the game, post less.”
MEN, NOT MACHINES!!!!!
Can’t you (not you Tarheel) just back off for once and appreciate the whole damned body of work and not whine about particular plays? Cripes!
I love Coke and I absolutely love Hughes.
Hughes fastball right now is so well located that it is just not going to get hit consistently in any way.
Hitters know what he’s going to throw. They just don’t know where it is going to be.
And they just can’t catch up to it. It’s not just the overall results – look at the swings they’re getting against hughes – they are terrible.
He’s overpowering one hitter after another because of the location on his fastball.
Serf July 26th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
In 2014, Phil Hughes will pitch 6 perfect games, finishing the season at 23-2 with a 1.14 ERA and 314 K’s.
And Joba will go 2-0 with a 0.20 ERA and 86 Saves.
Tampa lost 5-1
“Hughes hit 98 on that last pitch.”
I said he’d touch 98 but not today.
97 on YES
on MLB.com 98 mph
I wouldn’t be surprised if Hughes hits 104 or 105 this season.
Me believes Hughs will own Ellis. Hughs is on FIRE.
Cliff Lee to Philly?
Final score: Jays 5 – Rays 1
Lee would look good in pinstripes…..
Breaking news -
The Toronto Blue Jays actually closed out the Tampa Bay Rays and won today. This is not a false alarm.
Hernandez still in the game in the 7th. Just tremendous.
Michael K I agree!
why hasen’t Pete posted anything?
why hasen’t Pete posted anything?
good job, swish.
RDM, you are the single worst commenter I have ever seen. Literally everything you say is wrong. Everything.
Swish!
Phil’s REAL test will come against Mark Ellis…
Pete is off today
I would say Swisher is a better player than Betemit…
Robbie just missed that.
Cano moves the runner over. Fundamentals!
Youuuuuuse. Great job.
Gotta get Swishy home
Hernandez has recorded 18 outs thus far against Boston. 14 of them are fly balls. That’s living dangerously in Fenway.
First pitch swing…for Cano…that is unusual
“I would say Swisher is a better player than Betemit…”
Best trade of Cashman’s tenure, when you consider he’s likely to be here for a while. Abreu was great, but they had to eat a ton of money and got him on the downswing of his career. Swisher’s in his prime.
Melkman’s been much more patient at the plate recently.
Steal Melky
Cody Ransom is not a very good player. That said, he has much more power than your average 25th man.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if Hughes hits 104 or 105 this season.”
that’s some high fever.
I know Cody’s got 2 doubles today, but this is where Arod’s vacation day hurts.
Cody Ransom at best..would be like… Shane Spencer
When Teixeira swung on 3-0, he was facing a pitcher who was just missing off the plate and had shown an ability to come in with strikes at will in that game.
Breslow was missing by a ton, and had not proven that he could lay it in there at will.
You people will bash anyone and call them a hypocrite, but the different situations merit different approaches.
“Melkman’s been much more patient at the plate recently.”
He really has. Perhaps taking a lesson from GGBG?
Pinch Hit A Rod here, have Melky steal…
So much fun watching Boston lose at home.
That’s a riot about Reggie! I bet Ricky’s speech was pretty funny. I’ll watch that stuff later also because I like listening to their acceptance speeches.
Kay has forgotten that Sweet Lou was a Yankee for several years.
“I would say Swisher is a better player than Betemit…”
So would Kenny Williams. That trade was a salary dump from the White Sox perspective plain and simple. They just didn’t want to pay Swisher $7M to play this year, never mind what he’s owed for the rest of the deal.
Sewage man
July 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
I know Cody’s got 2 doubles today, but this is where Arod’s vacation day hurts.
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unbelievable.
Michael K (not that one) July 26th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
OK, Pet Peeve:
It’s HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHughes, not YOUSE (much like HHHHHHHouston, not youston, HHHHHHHuge (Al Michaels) not youge)
sorry, thanks.
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Mike Francesa, Michael Kay and various other people that are unable to pronounce his last name correctly for some reason disagree with you
“So much fun watching Boston lose at home.”
Sewage man July 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
I know Cody’s got 2 doubles today, but this is where Arod’s vacation day hurts.”
HIP SURGERY HIP SURGERY HIP SURGERY
REPEAT AFTER ME!!
You want him to go back on the DL at the end of August or rest him against the weakest offense in the AL?
Well, that was kind of predictable. But with the way Alex has been struggling, I say keep him on the bench.
Definitely send Melky. They won’t want to risk throwing with a runner on 3rd.
Girardi doesn’t PH here? What?
I want to know who didn’t vote for Rickey on his first ballot?
What more could the guy have done?
I hate those bitter old voters who flatly refuse to vote for anyone on their first ballot.
I’d like to see them try that with Mo.
CB
Do you see any way they trade Hughes? I think it would be tough to give that up.
About Arod’s “vacation day” -
It would hurt even more if Girardi was myopic enough to put him in when he needed a rest and risk having him be ineffective for the next two weeks!
“I know Cody’s got 2 doubles today, but this is where Arod’s vacation day hurts.”
It would hurt worse if Alex re-injured himself and was out the rest of the season. The guy has to be rested on a regular basis. We’ve been through this already. He can’t play everyday. I wish he could, but he can’t. That’s just the way it is.
Again, complete failure. Runners on corners w/1 out, 0 runs. Failure. A Rod should have PH there period.
“You people will bash anyone and call them a hypocrite, but the different situations merit different approaches.”
Matt –
for once try saying something positive, instead of critical.
It will hurt. It will be painful. But try it.
No pain. No gain.
“I want to know who didn’t vote for Rickey on his first ballot?’
The same person who won’t vote for Mo. Believe it or not, I don’t think he’ll get in unanimously. There appear to be some voters who don’t believe you get in first ballot unless you are Babe Ruth.
Ransom does alright when he’s facing the LHP because they can’t overpower him with pitches moving away from him, but Hinske needs to pinch hit for him against the RHP. I don’t see how Hinske is a downgrade defensively from Ransom at 3B, considering Ransom is a butcher out there anyway.
lol Ray Fosse.
Im the Pete Rose to your Ray Fosse
Finally, we got that guy out!!
wow
Laura, I think Mo is our Babe Ruth!
Why is Bruney in in a big situation? Are they trying to build up his confidence?
The same person who didn’t vote for Cal Ripken Jr.
This is fun to watch. hitters keep swinging and missing at his FB.
MaineYankee – I am so sure that the Yankees won’t go anywhere near trading Hughes that I will go on record as saying I would become a Red Sox fan if it were to happen. That’s how much you can count on it not happening.
The Yankees see Hughes as their future in the rotation. On top of it, he is currently their bullpen! You don’t trade away a 23-year-old for a quick feel good!
MO but one to which I am totally committed.
Hughes’s curveball is not working today but man is he good… and finally suzuki is out
MaineYankee,
The yankees will not trade Hughes. He is untouchable.
One of the thing that people who want to trade Hughes or Joba don’t take seriously enough is the cost structure of the roster going forward.
They have so much money locked up with long term contracts the only way to field a competitive team with any depth (depth that is critical with an older team…) is to have young, cost controlled players.
Quite honestly, I don’t think they’ve seriously considered moving Hughes since he came back so strong at the end of last year.
Hughes is the kind of arm every team is dying to get. You don’t give up this player.
The yankees made that decision when they didn’t trade hughes for Santana.
Getting rid of him – that ship has sailed, IMO.
“Laura, I think Mo is our Babe Ruth!”
Let’s hope so. Someone just mentioned that Cal Ripken Jr didn’t get all of the votes. Those voters are a tough crowd.
Hughes is the new Mo. He shattered a bat..its official
Bottom of 7th
Cards 2 Philly 9
Bottom of 8th Bal-6 RS-1 still
No Yusssssse stop…
Walk
Hughes is going to go 40 pitches here. But this win is important.
wow lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0CDtEz_Bo
WARNING FOUL LANGUAGE!
well we know he ain’t pitching tomorrow but this game is important.
That curve was strike 3
It’s pretty obvious that Hughes is tired, everyone knows this but Girardi.
their making Yuse work now.
Seriously, with the Sux down 6-1 in the bottom of the 8th, with one out, the elf got a hit that scored Kotaris and you would have thought they won the world series by the silly sounds from RSN. They have always been a bit unrealistic.
Wow, that Lee Elia could have managed the Cubs today with that mouth. LOL!
That was actually a good pitch
The Ghost
July 26th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
It’s pretty obvious that Hughes is tired, everyone knows this but Girardi.
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its called building his pitch count and innings.
wow.
Man, the whole bullpen is having an off-series.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
Again, I reiterate, everyone is that stadium and on tv knows that Hughes is done, but Girardi. Must we wait until the game is tied to bring in Mo?
Showdown of the year:
Ellis vs. Hughes
Somebody tell me how this .100 hitting scrub has killed the Yankees all series.
And Girardi will be absolutely murdered if Bruney gives this up.
Girardi is leaving Hughes out there way too long.
Girardi does this over and over again.
Bruney? Oh, God!
Seems like all of our relievers are having a tough series.
Who is Brian Bruney?
Pray!
Despite this outing, I still say Hughes is untradeable.
I don’t like this Hughes for 2 innings.
Let’s see, runners on 2nd and 3rd, 1 out…aaahhh this ain’t the Yankees, they will score
Bruney in a big spot.
Mark Ellis owns Phil Hughes
“its called building his pitch count and innings.”
This is very relevant. The Yankees would like to have as much if not more flexibility next year as they have this year with Joba.
Hughes should have been taken out after the walk because of his pitch count.
tell me when it is 7-7
I call 3 run HR for Mark Ellis
Well, if he strikes out the first two batters he faces again…
This is the inconsistency of Girardi that really is confusing to watch sometimes.
If he was willing to go to Bruney with the tying run in scoring position, then why didn’t he go to Bruney with Hughes’ pitch count elevating into a range where he might not be available for 1-2 games of the Tampa series before the tying run is in on base?
Bruney is going to blow this game for Coke who blew it for Mitre
Hughes has been great. No argument there. but I would have went Bruny to start the inning to begin with. Can’t use Hughes all the time. No he’s unavailable tomorrow and possibly Tuesday.
oh boy, buckle your seatbelts ladies and gents
You can’t be great all the time. I’m not mad a phil, it happens. He was probably getting tired, he’s entitled to that.
WARNING: ANYTHING SHORT OF PERFECTION WILL GET GIRARDI KILLED!
If he put Mo in, he’d get killed for it. Putting Bruney in he’s getting killed for it. If he put Bruney in before right now and something bad happened, he’d get killed for it.
Now Bal 6 RS 2 TOP OF 9TH
Bruney in after Phil scary stuff!
Remember, should be at least 9-5, but Yanks had no fundementals today, plus Jeter gets picked off 2nd…maybe 10-5…
Does anyone see this ending well with Bruney in?
I like this move. We are going to need Bruney before this is done.even if it doesn’t work
Would it be better to bring in Bruney in the 9th IF you had to rather than here?
The “SAVE” is actually happening right now not the 9th.
i hate you bruney
GO BRUNEY!!!!
(The guy is confident, that’s for sure.)
Bruney needs to reclaim the 8th today.
Come on bruney, timne to put your money where your mouth is. We need a strike out.
“I don’t like this Hughes for 2 innings.”
It’s not just the innings. It’s the number of pitches and how he looked – especially how he looked inning one vs inning two.
He was tired. That was obvious. But they still left him out there.
It’s not magic to manage a bull pen by going to the same guys over and over again.
Bruney makes me nervous. He SHOULD own Ellis, but who knows?
Also, it’s a serious problem if the Yankees have to let Hughes go 40 pitches in a game. The Red Sox would never leave a reliever out that long (unless it’s Masterson) because they have more than just 1 or 2 guys they can trust in the 8th inning.
Got him!
BRUN-O!
Man he blew him away
Thank you.
# RDM July 26th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
tell me when it is 7-7
# me July 26th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I call 3 run HR for Mark Ellis
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Ellis K’s on a 96 mph heater.
Mo in.
Now can you two imbeciles go away? Please?
HE GONE
“Does anyone see this ending well with Bruney in?”
Yes. And why would you even ask the question? Does that mean you don’t?
Bring Mo in….
Good stuff from Bruney, blowing away Ellis.
Girardi is overmanaging a little bit here. He just blew away the last hitter. Why can’t they just leave him in for Nomar?
Okay, I can go with this. Nice job by Brian. Now let’s hope Mo’s immune to the bullpen virus.
Interesting, bring In Mo to face the oh so dangerous Eric Paterson with his .154 BA.
Well that should certainly get his confidence back.
“RDM
July 26th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
tell me when it is 7-7
me
July 26th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I call 3 run HR for Mark Ellis”
the LoHud version of Dumb and Dumber.
See guys, Bruney isn’t so awful.
If you actually give him consistent work, he will be sharper. With his good stuff, you need to rebuild his confidence, and that is the perfect spot to do so.
If Bruney turns it around, the pen becomes significantly stronger, since you now have 3 set up men to rotate through and 4 if Marte can come back. Then you aren’t as afraid to use Hughes for 2 one day, and then Aceves/Bruney the next day, and perhaps Marte/Coke the day after that, and it keeps guys rested and sharp with more consistent work.
WARNING: ANYTHING SHORT OF PERFECTION WILL GET GIRARDI KILLED!
If he put Mo in, he’d get killed for it. Putting Bruney in he’s getting killed for it. If he put Bruney in before right now and something bad happened, he’d get killed for it.
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That’s why we need another reliable arm in the bullpen!
“Does anyone see this ending well with Bruney in?”
Yes. And why would you even ask the question? Does that mean you don’t?
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I mean he isn’t exactly the most reliable person in a big spot, even though he did get the K there.
Haha, “HE GONE” is right. Wish we had those white sox announcers now…
“YES! YES! YES! YES!”
Good job, Bruney. Now please get this guy out, Mo.
CB
Why MO now? Leave Bruney with a positive?
Mo thank you Jesus JOE!!
What an old school AL East matchup.
Bruney looked very good yesterday. The best he’s looked since he returned from the disabled list.
He looked great that batter. I’d leave him in for another hitter but it’s going to be Mo again for 4 outs.
They will need Bruney to get back to being decent. They can’t keep using Hughes as much as they have been.
He’s actually not Mo of 1996. He’s essentially missed the past two seasons with injuries.
(No offense to Neil since you are hardly the only one who does this)
I don’t think there is any wussier question than “Does anyone see this ending well”
Grow a pair for God sake.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive) July 26th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
“RDM
July 26th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
tell me when it is 7-7
me
July 26th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I call 3 run HR for Mark Ellis”
the LoHud version of Dumb and Dumber.
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So true. This is the time to use an ignore feature if there ever was one.
Mo coming in w/runners on….
I know it’s sacrelidge to question going to Mo, but I agree with a couple of you that “why not leave Bruney in?” I don’t have #’s, but you know Nomar has seen Mo numerous amounts of times…… Bruney looked great!
I’m scared. A hit here and the game is tied AND the Yankees have no reliable relievers left for extra innings.
Come on, MO!!
There’s no such thing as 2nd guessing bringing Mo in. None.
I think Girardi used the pen perfectly this inning. regardless of what happens now.
he let phil get his pitch count up so they can build him up a little, took him out when it got too hairy and put Bruney in – which ended up being a confidence builder and now Mo.
spot on.
Yes RDM, but it’s also a save sit.
He’ll get it done.
I agree what I wouldn’t give for an ignore feature.
Hughes too long….Bruney not long enough….Rivera’s Giradi’s security blanket
swimmingly
I fall to my knees at the altar of Mo…
Mo fo sho!
Mo makes Girardi look like a genius.
Hughes still has a scoreless streak.
Girardi is a genius I say!
I know it’s sacrelidge to question going to Mo, but I agree with a couple of you that “why not leave Bruney in?” I don’t have #’s, but you know Nomar has seen Mo numerous amounts of times…… Bruney looked great!
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this is not the Nomar of old. this ain’t your papa’s nomar.
Mariano has to lead the league in grounders right back to the pitcher. It seems like one goes right to him every single time he pitches.
Nice job MO!!!!
JOE GIRARDI IS A GENIUS!!!
Dare I say it?
Bruney’s back.
Mo GJ
Girardi genius! go away trolls…
“7-5 Good Guys”
~white sox announcers, if they were here
“Why MO now? Leave Bruney with a positive?”
Probably part of it. But I’d guess Girardi had decided before hand Mo for 5 outs – no good. Mo for 4 outs – OK.
I would have left Bruney in but so be it. Winning today with a lead in hand is what they need to do but they are playing the Rays in a big series and that’s a team for which you will need your bull pen rested – that offense comes back over and over and over.
And now they’re going into the rays series with Hughes having thrown 40 pitches and Mo getting 4 outs.
MO to the rescue,as usual.
man will Johnny ever hit 200 home runs?
umm… why is Girardi using MO for 4 outs before a series against Tampa?
we are facing a last place team. Bruney can’t get 3 outs?
6-2 Orioles, bottom of the 9th
the thunder and rain are coming down hard in brooklyn! hope we finish this game fast
RS lose 6-2
CB – as Joe Torre used to maintain, play to win today. Tomorrow may be a blow out.
“Hughes too long….Bruney not long enough….Rivera’s Giradi’s security blanket”
Perfect summary Pat. That was exactly it.
What is the magic of bringing Mo into a game early? For that independent game bringing Mo into the game in the 8th is always the right move. He’s the best. There’s no one else who could possibly be a better move.
But game outcomes aren’t completely independent.
They are going to go into Tampa with Hughes coming off heavy work and Mo being used for longer than he usually is.
Leave bruney out there – he looked great. If he gets an out and the yankees score in the 8th then you might be able to give Mo the day off before tampa.
But when you have a safety blanket you run to it I suppose…
No too different than the way Torre would have played it.
Walk off in Boston?
Sux didn’t lose quite yet. On their way though.
Joe answer no,Bruney can’t!
NYY626-
which part of BKLN?
Pete’s missing a good game.
Girardi did the right thing with Bruney.
We need Bruney to rturn to his old self.
He had a good inning yesterday and he blew away that one batter who killed us yesterday.
This will build his confidence up.
Slowly he can be used in the 8th alternating with Hughes.
So who sets up tomorrow?
Aceves? Coke was used, Hughes was taxed, Bruney pitched 2 days in a row.
DTV – in the Marine Park area. The bronx is sunny though according to Kay
My Girardi take – Bruney is just coming back to getting outs again. With runners on 2nd and 3rd and a 2-run lead, having just lost a game, and CC going tomorrow, you go with Mo.
2 down in beantown.
Runner on 2nd, 1 out, 0 runs…this team is horrid RISP w/less than 2 outs
I know it’s not ideal to go into the Rays series with Hughes and Mo having thrown a ton of pitches, but locking up this win would put us 6.5 up of TB (7 up in the loss column). It’s much easier to lock up a win against Oakland than it is to beat the Rays, so Girardi is going all for it to get the win today.
Who’s throwing for the Yanks tomorrow ???? Burnett…One thing is becoming so obvious around here….If things are not perfect, all the negative so call Yankee fans come running out screaming fire…..Disgraceful….Lousy attitude, loser mentality…
Sox lose. Lets win.
Here come some ominous clouds.
They need to get this bottom half over more quickly. Need a run-scoring single and the a quick out.
Mo is sitting toooooo long.
Sigh.
Maine Yankee -
Thanks for the info. I will follow-up.
And there is no joy in beantown,
The mighty LaRoche has popped out!
O’s finally win a road game vs the AL East.
Sox go down 1-2-3 in the ninth, going out without a whimper against the O’s…
Yanks should be up like 12-5
AJ will step up tomorrow. The point will be moot.
3 more outs for MO.
Today’s game matters just as much as tomorrow’s game, even though some of you think otherwise.
Also, the fact that CC pitches tomorrow makes a huge difference.
Again, that’s why the big guy is so valuable.
RS LOST AS Stated 6-2
Re: complaining about Mo being in too long.
that extra out cost 3 pitches, you would think Girardi brought him in for 3 innings with the way the whiners around here are carrying on.
This is why this team can’t beat LA or Boston….
great walk off at Fenway.
The Sox walked off with their heads down.
The Orioles walked off giving high fives.
“Yanks should be up like 12-5″
While I understand what you’re saying, it only takes one run to win a game. And we have the best out there.
I believe AJ pitches tomorrow Miggs, Not CC Sabathia.
RDM, you know that old cliche that hitting a baseball is quite possibly the toughest thing in sports to do, right?
These guys may make it look easy at time, but it is in fact remarkably difficult.
Personally, I can hit a baseball. So for me, hitting a straight drive off the tee is the hardest thing in sports.
woops my mistake CC doesn’t pitch tomorrow.
Bow to Mo.
Mo only threw 3 pitches in the 8th…that’s not going to affect his usage tomorrow against the Rays.
No offense to some ppl in the blog, but Who is Brunney badly missed his location on the strikeout, he looked ok but not trust worthy for 2 big outs, plus BOS losing today in that situation you really want this win, Mo for 4 outs b/c who’s to say AJ doesn’t have a gem tomorrow? You pitch for today not tomorrow in playoff position races.
RDM
Is just posting nonsense to get a response. We all need to ignore like any other troll.
There is no extra credit awarded for winning 12-5 or 7-5. Get over it
“This is why this team can’t beat LA or Boston….”
This team HAS beaten LA!!!! Please please please please please just chill and enjoy the win. And in the process let us do the same!
In Mo we trust.
Mo is ageless. I hope he pitches until he’s 50.
“as Joe Torre used to maintain, play to win today. Tomorrow may be a blow out.”
Joe, i understand the importance of not applying discount rates to the present in hopes of gaining in the future.
But with pitching and the bull pen in particular – games aren’t completely independent. Your probability of winning tomorrow is contingent on how you use your staff/pen today.
The fact is that Hughes was left out on the mound and continued to throw pitches while he was visibly tired.
They need hughes for this whole season. It’s his first year relieving. He’s missed most of the past two seasons with injuries.
Hughes work load out of the pen is becoming a real concern.
If you want a 23 year old to continue trying to throw 95+ out there on the mound with a tired arm then so be it. They’ll win the game in July against the A’s.
Same thing for Mo. He’s 39. He’s been used in 8th often this season.
It’s an issue. Coke, Hughes and Mo are being used a lot.
And on a day where Bruney looked good – Girardi could have saved both Hughes and Mo some pitches.
HE GONE.
1 to go.
Mo.
Yankees win. Brilliant day for Mo.
The The The Yankees Win…THE YANKEES WIN!!!!
Huge.
Mo gets 4 outs in 13 ptches.
He’ll be available tomorrow for sure.
the Yankees win
thaaaaa Yankees WIN
Big W there and we rested AL too.
“woops my mistake CC doesn’t pitch tomorrow.”
It was the YES broadcast booth mistake because I picked up the same thing. But Burnett can also give us innings, so no big deal.
The Rays right now are closer to the Blue Jays than they are to the Yanks.
Time to step on their necks.
Mo only 13 pitches, he can be used tomorrow. Remember A Rod will be off next Sat for rest…..
One of the greatest things about Mo is how few pitches he throws. The Yankees have the luxury of using him for 4 outs and/or multiple days in a row because he doesn’t wear himself out.
Yankees gained 5.5 games on Boston during the homestand. Not much to be complaining about.
I don’t know why people respond to troll RDM.
He’s already got the award today —>
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-933634
trisha called it!
Yes I did.
CB
July 26th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
“as Joe Torre used to maintain, play to win today. Tomorrow may be a blow out.”
Joe, i understand the importance of not applying discount rates to the present in hopes of gaining in the future.
But with pitching and the bull pen in particular – games aren’t completely independent. Your probability of winning tomorrow is contingent on how you use your staff/pen today.
The fact is that Hughes was left out on the mound and continued to throw pitches while he was visibly tired.
They need hughes for this whole season. It’s his first year relieving. He’s missed most of the past two seasons with injuries.
Hughes work load out of the pen is becoming a real concern.
If you want a 23 year old to continue trying to throw 95+ out there on the mound with a tired arm then so be it. They’ll win the game in July against the A’s.
Same thing for Mo. He’s 39. He’s been used in 8th often this season.
It’s an issue. Coke, Hughes and Mo are being used a lot.
And on a day where Bruney looked good – Girardi could have saved both Hughes and Mo some pitches.
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Bruney gives it up and then what? Seriously, I’m not a big Girardi fan but he played it perfect that inning. Build up Hughes a bit, took him out when it got hairy, went to Mo with the game on the line but not too early on and Bruney even got a confidence builder out of it all.
Pipe down.
Mo is calling this team “way better” than previous Yankee teams.
Coming from The Man, that means something.
First AL team to 60 wins!
Rivera threw 13 pitches today. Everyone shut up about using Mo too much today.
Yankees only went 9-1???? WTB????!!!!!
A see-saw saga…
Saved as usual by Mo…
Pinstriped juggernaut…
Have a good day all….need to take 2 out of 3 from the Rays at the least….
“Bruney gives it up and then what? ”
Then you would cry and complain like you did for most of the game.
And that’s why a number of people have pointed out how stupid your posts are.
Mo’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/631964572a1310a0/
DT
you remember the poster aroid’s cousin (or something like that) you don’t think it could be the same, do you?
Hey Tim Boat,
Telling CB to pipe down is not going to win you any friends around here. He’s one of the most respected posters on this blog.
You also called me a “dolt” earlier.
You’re not exactly building up credibility here.
Bye RDM,
Please take your time coming back.
This game was huge you cant worry about tommorow. The yanks just went up 1 game on the sox and rays.
“Bruney gives it up and then what? Seriously, I’m not a big Girardi fan but he played it perfect that inning. Build up Hughes a bit, took him out when it got hairy, went to Mo with the game on the line but not too early on and Bruney even got a confidence builder out of it all.”
Exactly. GI Joe as much crap as we’re hearing today played it well. No one here could have predicted 40 pitches for Yusssse but it happened and he got into a situation Who is Brian Bruney? got 1 and Mo ended it in 14 pitches. We need innings AJ… do it for us Pie Man
“Bruney gives it up and then what? Seriously, I’m not a big Girardi fan but he played it perfect that inning. Build up Hughes a bit, took him out when it got hairy, went to Mo with the game on the line but not too early on and Bruney even got a confidence builder out of it all.
Pipe down.”
Spot on.
I am a big Girardi fan. But I agree with everything else in your post.
WHAT A TEAM!!!
Lol. People cannot figure out what they want with Hughes. When he finished an inning on 12 pitches, people are livid that Joe pulls him. If he throws a second inning, they are upset at Joe.
CB
July 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
“Bruney gives it up and then what? ”
Then you would cry and complain like you did for most of the game.
And that’s why a number of people have pointed out how stupid your posts are.
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don’t get all testy because i just pointed out how stupid and baseless your argument is.
Doreen
July 26th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
They need to get this bottom half over more quickly. Need a run-scoring single and the a quick out.
Mo is sitting toooooo long.
Sigh.
Maine Yankee -
Thanks for the info. I will follow-up.
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Your welcome. Not trying to scare you just trying to help. If not caught early long road of suffering.
“And on a day where Bruney looked good – Girardi could have saved both Hughes and Mo some pitches.”
I think Gorardi played it perfectly and all the goals were acheived, specifically winning the game.
If Bruney was left and he gave up a hit and the game was tied, people will be lynching Girardi here.
“Then you would cry and complain like you did for most of the game.
And that’s why a number of people have pointed out how stupid your posts are.”
CB I understan you a Tim Boat might want to meet under the Oneill banner but srsly there is no way I trust Who is Brian Brunney to get 2 big outs. Especially w/ Nomar being the big out.
nice game.
nice pen usage in the 8th too, no complaints here. definitely go to Mo with it all on the line 2 outs in the 8th, any day.
“DT – you remember the poster aroid’s cousin (or something like that) you don’t think it could be the same, do you?”
idk Tarheel – it’s hard to keep track of trolls without a scorecard.
“Who is Brian Bruney? got 1 and Mo ended it in 14 pitches. ”
By this logic then why even put Bruney into the game at all.
That’s what so nonsensical about this.
If Bruney can’t be trusted and this game is so critical then he should have never been used in the first place at all.
He could have blown the game to the one hitter he faced.
If Mo is so efficient with his pitches what’s the distinction between him getting 4 outs or 5?
What’s an extra 3 pitches?
Or why not just let Hughes continue throwing? He was already gassed and left out there to throw to a couple of hitters.
So leave him out there longer if Bruney is a zero.
The distinctions are arbitrary. If Bruney is unusable for a second out then he shouldn’t be trusted to get that first out.
Nomar isn’t scaring anyone. This isn’t 2001.
Can’t ask for more than a 9-1 homestand. In fact, it’s more than you could ask for.
Winning eight games in a row is an exception, not the rule – for any team. The best teams lose 60 to 67 games.
Should be quite the series against the Rays. Each team has it’s best three starters going – well, if you want to call Kazmir still effective.
Some great matchups.
“I think Gorardi played it perfectly and all the goals were acheived, specifically winning the game.
If Bruney was left and he gave up a hit and the game was tied, people will be lynching Girardi here.”
I shudder to think about it. BBFan, all it points out is that Girardi can’t win even when he does.
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MaineYankee, someone just told me that they have bugspray that is also for ticks. Do you think that would do the trick for someone going out when there are an abundance of ticks?
So the Sox don’t have the stones to acquire VMart, eh?
Bwa hahahahaha
CB – I agree that the games are very much interdependent. And I see your point about Phil being tired, and Mo being 39.
It’s a tough call. If Joe leaves Bruney in, and Bruney gives up a hard hit, or HR, well, that’s a lost opportunity to pick up a game on the rest of the division. Given how competitive the Sox and Tampa are, that’s a real risk for a playoff spot.
What Joe needs are more options in the pen, besides Ace, Hughes, Coke, and Mo for the last two to three innings. If Bruney performs decently, well that’s another arm to be called upon. Starter’s giving 7-8 innings, instead of 5-6 like today, will help also. As Mitre gains arm strength as he continues to recover, that will also help every 5th day.
It’s a tough call. One would hope/think that Joe and Dave Eiland are on top of it. They know the issues, and likely better than us.
Dt
call me a conspiracy theorist. You may not remember, but you pegged the real identity.
Repost**
CB I understand you and Tim Boat might want to meet under the Oneill banner but srsly there is no way I trust Who is Brian Brunney to get 2 big outs. Especially w/ Nomar being the big out.
“CB I understan you a Tim Boat might want to meet under the Oneill banner ”
By my count, there are over 100 confrontations going on under that banner. At this point, they should be moved to MSG.
Hughes: 1.1 ip, 39 pitches
Rivera: 1.1 ip, 13 pitches
LOVE Hughes, but that just shows how truly remarkable Mo is, and how Hughes still has room to learn (obviously understandable).
Either way it was a great homestand. The team comes back again. Mitre was ok for a 5th starter. Hughes looked great again before he tired.
The team is playing great ball and gathering strenght. Every year they seem to play better the second half and they looked poised to do that again.
2.5 games is very nice. This lead is perfect timing for the trade deadline so we don’t look so desperate. Halladay, Lee etc. etc. would be a luxury not a necessity. I think we’re getting in, but if they want to be serious about advancing deep, Cashman needs to add a starter.
“If Bruney is unusable for a second out then he shouldn’t be trusted to get that first out.”
Unless of course he’s the best you have to use for one out.
There are many many times a manager will bring in a pitcher to get one out and then go to someone else.
I agree that Girardi played that brilliantly.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ronx-view/
“”Reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated!” – Derrek Jeter January 14th, 2009 at 4:08 am
Saying that my “last three years have seen a steady decline in both OBP and SLG” doesn’t really tell the whole story.
For my career, my OPS is .845. Since 2001, I’ve had 1 season with OPS above my career average, 2006, when I should have won the MVP (even though I don’t care about individual achievements). My 2007 OPS was right at my career average and better than my production in 2004 or 2005. Can stats from one season show a trend?
If you want to base this decline on last season, that’s fine. I don’t usually make excuses, but I had a few injuries last year that would make it hard for anyone. Even with last year’s bad numbers, I’ve still had an .838 OPS over my last 3 seasons, 7 POINTS BELOW MY CAREER AVERAGE!
It’s fine to project that I will start to slow down as I get older, everyone does (except Roger and Barry), but 06 and 07 weren’t “slow down” years for me.”
Say what you want, it was an unorthodox move to bring Bruney in for one batter.
Joe had a reason, but I agree with CB it doesn’t make much sense.
Cliff Lee AND Victor Martinez to the Dodgers.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ans%27-Lee
If Bruney was left in, MO would have been used anyway.
CB is right. Girardi is starting to be a bit irresponsible as far as Hughes is concerned.
Depending on one guy everyday is how Torre blew out Proctor. and why there where even rules when Joba came up.
“Girardi is leaving Hughes out there way too long.
Girardi does this over and over again.”
Man oh man where were you yesterday to back me up? I was getting SHREDDED because I dared to question Girardi’s decision to stick with Pettitte.
It seems like the same guys in the pen are getting a bit overworked. Rivera, Coke, Hughes, Aceves. Those four have been great but we are starting to see a few cracks here and there. Aceves yesterday, Coke today, Hughes got tired quickly, etc.
That just shows how important Bruney is to the pen. He needs to pitch well to help distribute the workload. Especially with guys like Pettitte, Chamberlain, Mitre in the rotation who aren’t necessarily known for going deep into the game (at this point in their careers).
I thought going to Bruney in the 8th was a really risky move but I’m glad it paid off and hopefully it gives Bruney the confidence to excel in similar situations as we go forward.
If Marte can come back and be effective it will only help. Unfortunately it looks like Robertson and Melancon are relegated to mop-up duty. I really truly think Melancon especially could be a key part of the bullpen RIGHT NOW. Unfortunately Joe does not hold that opinion and isn’t really giving him a chance.
Well, enough of my bullpen musings, the Yanks won so I’m happy
The team (outside of the pen) is well rested, coming off another series win and going into tampa with the top 3 starters. Lets hope for 2 out of 3 or better!
“The distinctions are arbitrary. If Bruney is unusable for a second out then he shouldn’t be trusted to get that first out.”
That’s why it doesn’t matter who the 8th inning guy is. As long as Mo is dominating as the closer, he will always be brought in during that situation.
“Cliff Lee AND Victor Martinez to the Dodgers.”
If that deals goes through, I feel bad for Grady Sizemore. He’ll be the lone man on the island.
YES post-game Booth Report with Nancy Newman, Michael Kay, Paul O’Neil, and Al Leiter:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/631969576754ce3f/
lol
Didn’t people say that Girardi wasn’t using Hughes enough and he was being wasted? Now he is being used more and he is being overused?
He just can’t win with the fickle fans who always complain.
“If Bruney can’t be trusted and this game is so critical then he should have never been used in the first place at all.
He could have blown the game to the one hitter he faced.
If Mo is so efficient with his pitches what’s the distinction between him getting 4 outs or 5?
What’s an extra 3 pitches?”
CB, seriouly you are going overboard just to defend your earlier post.
Girardi played it right, period.
It is Ok to acknowledge others point of view when it is correct.
Today’s game is a classic example of a team just picking each other up.
Coming off a loss, Mitre gives up 2 runs in the first inning but the Yankees answer back with 4 in the bottom half of the inning.
Coke comes in and gives up a go-ahead HR but the Yankees take the lead in the bottom of that inning.
Hughes leaves with the tying run in scoring position, but Bruney and Mo bail him out.
People say that chemistry goes hand in hand with playing well, and this is why. When a team is playing well, there are no goats- only heroes. Today there were a few people that could have been the “goat” but in the end the Yankees won and that leaves the whole team happy, and no one has to feel bad about their individual performance.
“”So the Sox don’t have the stones to acquire VMart, eh?
Bwa hahahahaha”"
Their holier-than-thou trade approach only works when you have good prospects
(generalization of the day)
WooHoo! 2.5 up again. Thank you, Baltimore
Wang got off to a rough start, but nice to see the guys get runs off of Cy Braden. The fear in hear yesterday that Braden would dominate us was silly. You can’t judge how a pitcher will do against us based on what they do against Boston.
Nice DP’s by Jeter & Cano to help out the pitcher.
Did you guys hear them talking about the Joba Rules? lol. They don’t need The Hughes Rules because Torre’s not here anymore.
And what’s with Kay? Trying his hardest to convince the booth that moose doesn’t belong in the Hall. Let it go, Kay.
Anyhoo, nice game. Nice of Rivera to save Phil’s scoreless streak, too. haha.
solid win, good job by bullpen, mitre so far this year has given the yanks more than wang…
Trisha
Use one with deet in it. It is still wise to check when you come in though. Like randy said the problem ones are real small so they are hard to see.
We’re going to have a stretch where we blow other teams out mixed in with some losses and Hughes might pitch once a week.
These things ALWAYS even out. Remember last month, MO wasn’t used for like 8 days during that interleague stretch?
“As long as Mo is dominating as the closer, he will always be brought in during that situation.”
And it isn’t outs, it’s pitches thrown. Mo could have come in in the 9th and neededf 30 pitches to get three outs. It’s a calculated risk and I seriously like the way Girardi played this one. I love Bruney but agree with the posters who said that he needs to show a little more before you give him a shot at that 3rd out, under the circumstances that were at hand!
Anyway, it was tremendous.
WOW. Dodgers going for it. Sox will not get VMart!!!!
BWAHAHAHA
I really feel he’s the thing they need.
THE SOX LOSE!!!!
*here
Didn’t people want Hughes to be used like the 96 Mariano and not be babied?
Which one is it?
And you guys are crazy if you think Cashman hasn’t laid out specific rules for him. Just because Girardi didn’t tell the world about them, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
Thanks MaineYankee. Maybe then it still makes me nervous enough to use the checkout counter at the supermarket.
“Didn’t people say that Girardi wasn’t using Hughes enough and he was being wasted? Now he is being used more and he is being overused?”
There is a difference between using him an inning here, an inning there with multiple days between appearances and leaving him out there when he looks worn out. I think we all would like Hughes to pitch as much as he can without risking his health.
He is obviously one of the best pitchers on the staff and we all know he needs the innings. But when he starts to look weary on the mound nobody wants him to stay out there. Most arm injuries occur when the player is throwing pitches while he’s tired.
We won both the games started by Mitre. Very good.
Who would have thought it would be the case?
He earned at lesat two more starts.
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63197142623c136f/
That article indicates that LAD would have to part with one of Billingsly/Kershaw as well as Loney and other young prospects.
If CLE can get that type of deal, they should do it in a heartbeat. That package is miles better than what the Sux can put together.
At some point real soon, Giradi will be in a position where he will have to trust Brian Bruney…..Today could have been that day and then move forward……Hughes & especially Coke rae getting ahead of their innings projections for this stage of the season……And it’s only going to get more taxing as the games get clicking off the schedule….Remember the 04 debacle was because of the bullpen was spent, Rivera included…….
RDM is the biggest Red Sox troll that just attempts to upset and rile up Yankees fan. Why does anybody respond to him?
“What’s an extra 3 pitches?”
You are assuming that Mark Ellis was only going to see 3 pitches in that AB vs Mo? between him and Nomar it could easily be 10+ pitches depending on the AB. Bruney came in, thank god he got 1 out I was scared for Yusssse, Mo came in in 14 pitches later Yankees win, AJ vs TB tomorrow.
I missed the game today (driving home) but caught about half of it on radio. Here are two observations:
1. Girardi has rediscovered his confidence in Brian Bruney, that can be nothing but good for the Yankees down the stretch.
2. Mo, at age 39, has rewritten the book on relief pitching. While he no longer has the 95+ cutter he can paint the corners like no one has since Warren Spahn. Spahnie was winning game up until age 45 in the rotation, there is no reason why Mo can’t continue doing this not only through the end of his current contract but also for a couple of years beyond it. He had shoulder surgery after last season, came back OK, and has been just unbelievable since mid-May. I hope each of you understands just how great this guy it because it’s unlikely there will be another one like him in this generation.
bruney’s ball was right down the middle again
same ball he threw to pacman jones, except this guy missed it.
he still nees to fix his location, he got lucky today….
Tarheel, but if Joe had a reason and he is the manager, then doesn’t it make all the sense in the world?
Pat M,
Good point about 2004, I remember watching that series and thinking it was a battle of the bullpens. I kept waiting for the Red Sox bullpen to crumble. Both sides were totally worn out but somehow Keith Foulke kept on pitching and ruined his arm in the process. It got them a WS so I guess it was worth it.
“RDM is the biggest Red Sox troll that just attempts to upset and rile up Yankees fan. Why does anybody respond to him?”
I actually thought he was just a skitterish Yankee fan!
Sorry.
Hi guys!
I’m just getting back – what a bummer for Gardner as he’s really done a fine job this year, better than I thought he would have. Is he out for the season? The Yanks can’t go with Melky the rest of the way – think they’ll make a move?
How’d Mitre look? I’m going to catch up on some reading now.
Thanks!
Trevor
July 26th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
CB is right. Girardi is starting to be a bit irresponsible as far as Hughes is concerned.
Depending on one guy everyday is how Torre blew out Proctor. and why there where even rules when Joba came up.
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apparently Proctor blew up Proctor with his issues with alcohol abuse.
great win
Wang going to meet with Dr. Andrews. Just announced.
I just checked the Red Sox box score and there must be a type…it says that John Smoltz gave up 6 runs today and now has an ERA >7.0. That can’t be true…Peter Gammons told us all that Smoltz’ stuff was electric.
I don’t think Girardi is into Torre territory yet, when it comes to bullpen abuse. He uses his 4 guys a lot but there haven’t really been instances where I thought “Wow, isn’t that guy totally worn out by now?” They usually get at least a day of rest when needed.
Girardi might be overusing his 4 favorite relievers a lot but Torre usually overused just 1 guy which made it that much worse.
Late to the party, are people fussing about mo getting 4 outs?
You guys realize that he’s the closer and sometimes closers are called to get 4 outs? And that he’s more than capable of doing it? And that he gets paid a lot of money to do it?
Rivera is healthy, and look at him now. Dominant. His outings have not been high stress (# of pitches-wise) at all. If he had Papelbon’s WHIP (don’t know what it is, but every time I look up he has runners in scoring position), then there’s a problem.
Rivera’s the least of our worries. And if you’re worried about him because of his age, then that’s a whole ‘nother story isn’t it?
Anyone see that Jesus Christ like painting of Yuussssse next to Who is Brian Bruney’s? locker
Why is Tomko’s portrait of Joe Torre in Bruney’s locker?
“It seems like the same guys in the pen are getting a bit overworked. Rivera, Coke, Hughes, Aceves. Those four have been great but we are starting to see a few cracks here and there. Aceves yesterday, Coke today, Hughes got tired quickly, etc.”
What we’re seeing is the normal progression of a ML reliever’s season in which they have periods of throwing well and then periods in which they’re not throwing as well. So I don’t agree with that “tired” crap.
Bruney’s confidence could almost be offputting, but it actually gives me a sense of comfort.
Trisha
I am not saying he was wrong, it was just unusual. I was all for him putting in Bruney, and just very surprised it was just one batter. I was thinking he wanted to bank the positive that Bruney had, and not push his luck.
Joe said he didn’t want Mo for 5 outs. That doesn’t really explain why bruney couldn’t do 2.
By the way, the bite will leave a rash. Ticks down here are everywhere. I have had at least two tick bites already this year.
So, folks what are we going to do about a replacement for Gardner? On the YES telecast, they said Girardi claimed it definately wouldn’t be AJax.
Right now, Gammons is very nauseous. Perhaps a Tangueray and tonic will help drown his Socks sorrows.
“So I don’t agree with that “tired” crap.”
Wow that’s a bit aggressive isn’t it Cash? Is everything I say crap?
I was simply pointing out that Hughes got tired today while in the past he’s been able to handle 2 innings with no trouble. For awhile now the pen has essentially been flawless. Right now they MIGHT be going through a bit of a slump, which is normal.
Just trying to make a point that Bruney pitching well is very important because the Yankees can’t afford to let their top 4 guys get worn out.
When Marte comes back, he will help spell Coke.
“Joe said he didn’t want Mo for 5 outs. That doesn’t really explain why bruney couldn’t do 2.”
B/c the next guy is Nomar Garciaparra, a better veteran hitter than Mark Ellis.
Gammons may be close to another stroke.
I disagree with Pete’s description of Alabadejo has a AAA (or is it AAAA) pitcher. He’s nothing special, but I think he’s solid and he can do a good job; I always thought he should have stayed up and Robertson sent down.
No to calling up AJax – the Yankees did that with Phil when they had rotation injuries in 2007 and they really rushed him by doing so. AJax is raw – he’d get eaten alive in the majors.
Melky is hitting .287 with a .352 OBP, above average defense in CF and clutch hitting. Plus, he hits well in the second half. He is the everyday centerfielder right now and more than capable of handling the job.
If Jackson gets the call, he will not be thrown into the fire. He will play on a limited basis like Pena and Cervelli. Joe Girardi will put him in situations where he is more likely to succeed. It will be good for his confidence and good for his trade value if the Yankees plan to move him.
The Yankees have plenty of CF depth in the organization to be able to sell high on Jackson with Melky and Gardner.
Rios is a trade possibility and he is versatile enough to play CF as well.
Chone Figgins is available on the FA market in 2010 and Crawford in 2011.
I think AJAX might go in a package deal for Rios + Downs at this year’s deadline.
Bruney’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63197559e5f224ae/
Hughes’ YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63197594c0ccb5fc/
“I think AJAX might go in a package deal for Rios + Downs at this year’s deadline.”
LMAO your actually serious.
Tarheel – I THINK this might be it: he had to go to a pitcher, was willing to use Mo for 4 outs but not 5, and trusted Bruney the most go get Mo to that last out in the 8th. It’s just one of those moves that worked. If Bruney had given up the farm people would be screaming all over Bruney. I am betting that it might have been played a lot differently if there weren’t runners on 2nd and 3rd or the and/or the score weren’t so close.
Anyway, the thing about the ticks really bugs me – no pun intended. But it’s good info to have because I also have a lot of grass and woods around my house and I don’t tend to be very vigilant when I am outside. I definitely will be from this point forward.
Put yourselves in Girardi’s shoes. You’ve already used your trusted lefty Coke, who didn’t do his job. Aceves your trusted long man failed yesterday. Does anyone on this blog trust Robertson, Melancon, Albaladejo, and Bruney in close games, and especially with men on base. Hughes had to go more than one inning.
The simple fact is, this would be an even better team if there was another reliable arm in the bullpen, and with the time Marte has been out, I don’t wouldn’t trust him either.
That being said, we hit their best pitcher well, and I think Girardi is doing the best possible job with the team he has.
As far as this blockbuster of Rosenthal’s I’ll need a more reliable source before I believe it.
“It seems like the same guys in the pen are getting a bit overworked. Rivera, Coke, Hughes, Aceves. Those four have been great but we are starting to see a few cracks here and there. Aceves yesterday, Coke today, Hughes got tired quickly, etc.””
Sorry, but I disagree. Based on this small sample of this home stand you have seen some people in the BP show their human side with others picking them up. This is what baseball is, you are going to have bad and off days. They arent tired, they are pitchers. Pitchers want to pitch…its as simple as that.
If there is anything I am not worried about with Joe Girardi as manager, it is his belief that the bullpen can make or break a season. He has time and time again showed his ability to create and manage a bullpen successfully, almost building something out of nothing.
If the starting pitchers produce, which they have been, then don’t worry about Girardi’s ability to handle the Bullpen.
I think AJAX might go in a package deal for Rios + Downs at this year’s deadline.
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The Blue Jays should pay us to take Downs’ and Rios’ contracts off their hands.
“The Yankees have plenty of CF depth in the organization to be able to sell high on Jackson with Melky and Gardner.”
There is no chance in hell that they would trade Jackson before Melky or Gardner. NONE. You’d need to have your head examined if you do that.
The whining even on a day we had great win is ……
Last week folks were complaining that Girardi was baby sitting Hughes. Today most of the same folks are complaining Hughes is being over used.
Folks enjoy good times. Yanks are not going to play .900 ball rest of the season. You will have pelty of opportunities to whine
I am so AWESOME!!!
Melky hits well in the second half?
Um, try again.
I absolutely DESPISE girardi’s nicknames for his players.
Cokey Hughsey
Jesus Christ they aren’t 3 years old, get a grip Joe.
I envision the 2011 outfield being Crawford in LF, Melky in CF and Rios in RF. If Jackson supplants any of them it would be Melky but Melky won’t be so difficult to oust. CF is his.
I would love to get Rios but I wouldn’t trade Ajax unless we were getting Rios back. Gardner and Melky don’t have the skills Ajax has so if I could move one of them first, I would.
so “easy” to oust.
Ajax for Rios? Are you crazy? Thats a bad deal for the Yanks.
I would be open to trading Jackson because I think he’s a bit overrated but only if the Yanks get back a lot of value.
I would move Melky or Gardner before Jackson but Jackson is the player other GM’s will want, especially for a player with upside like Rios.
I don’t know Rios’ stats offhand but I would probably have him in center before Melky
“Brandon (I’m typing from mommie’s basement now)
July 26th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
I am so AWESOME!!!”
You know what’s funny after I rip on the Hitman’s posts you come out of your closet, something we don’t know? your lover, split personality, your boy?
BTW you can’t be me, you wish you could be my AWESOME self but you can’t.
Jackson is definitely overrated. I’d take Figgins over him next year in a heartbeat. He’s a proven major leaguer with a .292 BA and .370 OBP with leadoff ability. He has no power at all but neither does Jackson and there’s no guarantee it would develop.
So if you can use AJAX to get Rios and sign Figgins with money alone, I’d rather have Rios + Figgins than AJAX.
It is so AWESOME
Melky’s numbers for first halves and second halves are identical.
Oh jesus not more Chone Figgins talk. He’s a mediocre player, get over it. Really really overrated by Yankee fans because he kills us but he pretty much sucks versus everyone else.
Trading Jackson for Rios is a TERRIBLE idea. Rios has a bloated contract and his best years may very well be behind him. Jackson, even if he is overrated, is young, cost controlled and has a boatload of potential. Unless you get back young talent, you don’t trade him.
I’d be all for a Rios trade as long as the Yanks don’t give up much and the Jays view it as a salary dump. Otherwise, hell NO.
Jackson is overrated? really? he does 4-5 things better than Melky already. It won’t be long before he takes CF away from Melky+Gardner.
I think AJAX might go in a package deal for Rios + Downs at this year’s deadline.
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We are going to give up the whole futbol team Ajax for Rios and Downs???
I really can’t believe some people want Phil to remain in the pen..it boggles the mind. It’s so hard to develop quality young pitching and we have a kid here who may very well turn into an ace. It’s all about immediate gratification and the lack of patience to deal with growing pains. I obviously am just going by the comments, but it appears Phil looked fantastic yet again. So he will throw 92-94 in the rotation, not 97 – so what? HIs stuff at 92-94 is outstanding and he’s got remarkable control – that is overpowering.
“Brandon (staring at my navel as we speak)
July 26th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
It is so AWESOME”
That it is. I’ve been told that plenty of times. Looks at the mirror I’m more AWESOME than my wannabe clones.
Jackson is still a K-king and he has 4 HRs this year.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 26th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Ajax for Rios? Are you crazy? Thats a bad deal for the Yanks.
I would be open to trading Jackson because I think he’s a bit overrated but only if the Yanks get back a lot of value.
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How can you feel that Jackson’s over rated and then expect a lot of value back in a trade for him?
“Jackson is overrated? really? he does 4-5 things better than Melky already. It won’t be long before he takes CF away from Melky+Gardner. ”
I expect that he will, still I think some people overrate him. He could very well be a bust in the majors. Those strikeouts worry me.
“How can you feel that Jackson’s over rated and then expect a lot of value back in a trade for him?”
Okay I see how that might be confusing.
I feel he’s overrated and I think there’s a chance he might bust but I think the chances he turns into a good player are higher. I don’t think he’ll ever be a “great” player.
Jackson’s value is high right now, he is doing well in AAA and he’s very young. He is projected to be a good MLB player. Due to these factors he should bring back a good return, if traded.
My preference would be to keep him but if a team really wants him I wouldn’t be averse to trading him depending on the return.
“Jackson is still a K-king and he has 4 HRs this year.”
All that is about is yr. 1 in AAA. Melky went through the same thing but AJax has better overall talent.
According to mlbtrade rumors,Seattle wants Melky and Gardner for Washburn.Have they lost their mind?
“Wow that’s a bit aggressive isn’t it Cash? Is everything I say crap?”
If you think that’s aggressive then you need to toughen up.
If you’re the same Patrick that told me that the Angels are not good then yes, I don’t have a high opinion of your comments.
Patrick, how is Rios not a good return for Austin Jackson? And how can Rios’ best years be behind him when he’s 28? 28-33 is the prime years and peak level of performance for baseball players. Rios needs a better lineup surrounding him and a winning attitude in the clubhouse. He would do better in a change of scenery. He hits for more power than AJAX ever will and is a gold glove outfielder who can play all 3 outfield positions. He also steals bases. Jackson’s upside is Alex Rios. Rios is the realization of Austin Jackson. AJAX won’t be much better than Rios’ career line.
Joe has young kids he’s still in the cutsey name mode.
Cash is King,
You sure do like to hold a grudge. Ah well, it’s the mark of a simple mind.
Bret,
I said his best years MIGHT be behind him. Simply because he’s regressed a lot at the plate in the past two years. Rios is not a good return for Jackson mainly because of his contract.
If Rios never returns to his 2006 offensive numbers you are paying an all-glove no-bat corner OF insane amounts of money until 2013 or 2014 I forget when his contract is over.
It’s just my opinion but I think it’s bad baseball practice to trade away valuable prospects for guys with bloated contracts. Especially when the guy you are trading for has regressed in his prime years.
If NYY is serious about bringing in a center fielder not named Austin Jackson, then, right now Pena is the best option, unless they wait for Kotsay to clear the Boston books about 6 days. If that or a trade doesn’t happen, then the only option left is Colin Curtis. Kevin Russo is what they are hoping that Pena will become. He has a few games in the corner, so, right now, his bat is a plus, but his defense lags.
Now is when they could have used Todd Linden to play center field.
Brandon, do you remember my telling you that KC needs to think about moving Tony Pena, Jr. to the mound?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4357116
I think it’ll be Curtis for a cop of coffee.
“You sure do like to hold a grudge. Ah well, it’s the mark of a simple mind.”
I just don’t appreciate ignorant opinions based mainly on some metrical measure.
Ironic GB7, ironic.
Patrick,
I agree that the contract makes Rios a less than ideal return for AJAX but maybe the Blue Jays take back Nick Swisher?
While I agree that Rios has regressed, I still think that you have to take in the big picture and look at his bottom-line career wise. He averages .286 with a .336 OBP and .788 OPS with 20+ steals, the ability to play all outfield positions above average and gold glove defense in RF.
With a change of scenery I think Rios is more likely to revert closer to career norms than to regress further from them. He might do better on a winning team where all the players in the clubhouse are excited to play everyday because the will to win is so high with everyone. He might also benefit by being placed further down in the lineup in a better lineup overall than the Jays.
Another thing about him that is a draw IMHO is that he bats righty and as of now the Yankees starting batting order 1-9 only features 2 pure righties – Arod and Jeter.
Rios would be the third.
According to mlbtrade rumors,Seattle wants Melky and Gardner for Washburn.Have they lost their mind?
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Washburn has a low ERA this year – 2.71 On the other hand he’s 35. He’s no spring chicken. He’s more like a roasted chicken.
“I just don’t appreciate ignorant opinions based mainly on some metrical measure.”
Well I still don’t think the Angels are as good as the Yankees, Red Sox, Rays. Lately they have been a LOOOOOT better. Ever since facing the Yankees they’ve basically been unstoppable.
We’ll see how it all ends up but I’m still not convinced the Angels are a great team.
Bret,
Taking Swisher back might help but look at the massive difference in their two contracts. About $40 million in guaranteed money.
I’d trade a lesser prospect and Swisher for Rios, I would not give up Jackson.
you guys must be taking some really strong drugs if you think the Blue Jays are giving up Alex Rios, who is close to a 5 tool player and a proven major leaguer, for a low level prospect and a high priced utility player. Maybe Vernon Wells because of his contract and diminishing skills, but not Alex Rios. And how can you possibly value Austin Jackson, who hasn’t played a game above AAA and has shown little to no power, over Rios? Every time I’ve seen Rios play I’ve been impressed and would love to see him patrolling right field at the Stadium for many years. Put him in the Yankees lineup and he’ll hit .290 with 25+ HRs and really shore up the outfield defense since he can actually throw to home plate without it bouncing 8 times.