Packing a nice lead to take on the road
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The Yankees leave shortly for Florida and a nine-game, 10-day road trip that will see them play the Rays (3), White Sox (4) and Blue Jays (2).
The Yankees (60-38) and 2.5 games ahead of Boston and 6.5 ahead of Tampa Bay. Somehow John Smoltz has a 7.04 ERA. That can’t be true.
If the Yankees hold those same leads when they return to the Bronx on Aug. 6, it will have been a successful road trip. Going 5-4 would be just fine. They could really bury Tampa, though, couldn’t they?
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Meanwhile, just wanted to say that I really enjoy the breathless reports that a team had a scout on hand to watch a player like Roy Halladay or Cliff Lee pitch.
I’m trying to imagine that phone call.
General manger: “Hello?”
Scout: “It’s me, just say Roy Halladay. He is very good. Make that very, very good. He got almost everybody out when I was watching.”
General manager: “That seals it, we’re making the deal.”
Scouts do serve a valuable purpose if a player is coming back from injury or you need to check our lesser-known players. They’re also a GM’s eyes and ears in different cities. But do teams really need scouts to tell them Halladay and Cliff Lee are good?
Also, most teams (including the Yankees) have a bunch of pro scouts who attend a game literally every day. It would be news if the Yankees didn’t have somebody at a game.
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Do we face Buerhle when at the White Sox? That could actually be a very tough series–more tough than the Red Sox.
We did take two of three at the Trop earlier this year.
Well, with Cliff Lee, it might make sense, not so much with Halladay. Lee is having a pretty good year, win-loss record notwithstanding, but it’s a big step down from last year. Will he continue to decline? Fair question…
Yeah, that could bury Tampa if the wins came against them. Otherwise, no.
Repost:
Trivia time?
I’ve got one. In the last 30 years, who were the only 3 pitchers traded midseason to win a game in the world series the same season
gm1-CC
gm2-AJ
gm3-Andy
gm4- ?
Obv would love to have Doc there but out of the question most likely, just don’t let it be Snell or Mitre.
Austin Jackson is not in Scranton’s lineup tonight.
Trevor: Cue massive speculation
m – Jeff Weaver w/ the Cardinals.
DT,
That’s one
AJ pitches tomorrow, not CC………..we could really use 7 strong from him -but he’s been giving us that.
“Austin Jackson is not in Scranton’s lineup tonight.”
Either it’s to give Pena or Curtis a rep in CF before a call up or Ajax has recieved the call for a PT stint. I think it’s the first.
Some clown on SNY Sports today said that the Yankees were actually considering trading or at least the Blue Jays had requested both Joba and Hughes to be part of a trade with Halladay….??????
RIIIIIGHHHHHHT!!
austin not in lineup
if he not coming
thats quite odd and quite a teaser
When did Joe G. say they were absolutely not bringing up A-Jax like someone said in the last thread?
From Brian Hoch’s pregame:
“It’s not something that we’ve talked about at this point,” Joe Girardi said. “Obviously, the guy that probably comes up is not going to be an everyday player. To bring up a guy like Austin Jackson and sit him on the bench right now, I’m not sure how much sense that would make. We’re going to talk about it.”
I hope it is either Jackson or Duncan coming up.
I keep a list of all the Yankees roster moves during the season and I get really excited when I get to add a new name to it.
So far the Yanks have had 39 different players on the 25 man roster this season. I believe the record number of players was 52. Last year they had 51
m:
““It’s not something that we’ve talked about at this point,” Joe Girardi said. “Obviously, the guy that probably comes up is not going to be an everyday player. To bring up a guy like Austin Jackson and sit him on the bench right now, I’m not sure how much sense that would make. We’re going to talk about it.””
That last part there–”we’re going to talk about it”–that’s your answer.
Reports say JP wants the Yanks to *start* the conversation with Joba *and* Hughes.
m – gonna need a hint. Yankee connection to the other two?
m July 26th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
When did Joe G. say they were absolutely not bringing up A-Jax like someone said in the last thread?
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Michael Kay on the broadcast said it wasn’t going to be Jackson via Girardi.
Then again, Michael Kay is sometimes full of it.
“So far the Yanks have had 39 different players on the 25 man roster this season. I believe the record number of players was 52. Last year they had 51″
The less players you see on that roster the better–because it means the less players are getting hurt or underperforming.
“Reports say JP wants the Yanks to *start* the conversation with Joba *and* Hughes.”
Have fun in Philadelphia, Roy.
SJ44
July 26th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
GB,
Yes, Mike still owns the team.
His daughter is doing as well as can be expected. Most of her eyesight is gone but she is doing very well making the most out of it.
A very special kid and a very special family.
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Hoping for the best with the little cutie. I’ve only seen pix of her. Met Bill Veeck out in the left field bleachers at the old park. He’s sitting the, talking to the fans, drinking beer, smoking his cigarettes and getting a tan. No shirt on and a pair of tan shorts…..using his artificial leg to hold his cigarette. Had a small hole drilled in it for that reason. What a character.
MaineYankee
July 26th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
GB7
You always have something to say about moose up here. I forgot to tell you earlier I had a bull and cow moose walk through my yard early one morning this spring.
The couple of weeks ago a doe and two fawns.
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I kid Dennis about living in Moose Tongue, Maine. Your place sounds like my brother’s in the Upper Penninsula of Michigan. Wild game everywhere…and some are even animals. His biggest problem is bears and wolverines coming down from Canada (about 20 miles). They’re being pushed south.
sunny615
July 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Reports say JP wants the Yanks to *start* the conversation with Joba *and* Hughes.
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A polite way of saying “We’re not trading you Roy Halladay.”
m – Graeme Lloyd in 1996.
“I hope it is either Jackson or Duncan coming up.”
IDK why it is that ppl want bam bam up here.
If anything I hope it’s either
A) Colin Curtis .353/.421/.647 since ASB
B) El Nino
C) Austin Jackson *the next CF*
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 26th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
“So far the Yanks have had 39 different players on the 25 man roster this season. I believe the record number of players was 52. Last year they had 51?
The less players you see on that roster the better–because it means the less players are getting hurt or underperforming.
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I know that, its in the Yankees best interest to not make moves. But I can’t help that I still get excited when I get to add a new name to the list.
I also like at the end of the season when I look back at the list and some of the players on it feel like a distant memory. Like- at some point during this season Andrew Claggett was on our 25 man.
DT,
One’s a Yankee connection (unfortunately his is the name I forgot, so no more hints on that one!)
“Reports say JP wants the Yanks to *start* the conversation with Joba *and* Hughes.”
sings
*And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he’s watchin’ us all in the eye of the tiger*
If JP is saying that the Yankees would have to start with Joba and Hughes, then the Red Sox would have to start with Lester and Buchholz.
“One’s a Yankee connection (unfortunately his is the name I forgot, so no more hints on that one!)”
Coney in 92.
Nephew watch…..He walked his second AB. Still 2-1.
Rickey being Rickey’s HOF speech is priceless.
Duh, yeah. Cone.
Weaver, Cone, and the last one to make it easier is this decade.
It remains to be seen how much J.P. Ricciardi caves in with Halladay talks in accordance to his self imposed deadline of Tuesday. The pressure is on him to blink first.
Neil Medchill continues to mash everythig. 2-3 with a homer (9) and 2 RBI. Mack is 2-3 with a triple and an RBI. Higashioka is holding his own and is 1-3 with an RBI.
from the last post on wang:
i have no idea why the blog is giving cashman a pass on wang’s shoulder injury.
if you wanted to ruin a pitcher’s arm, there’d be no better way than not checking him out after 6 months of team ordered inactivity and then just having him throw in spring training as if nothing happened ike anyone else.
it was stupid of cashman to allow wang to begin spring training without being thoroughly checked out.
i cannot understand how anyone on this blog can think that wang after 6 months of inactivity should not be put through intensive strength tests that would have revealed his weakened hip and lower body.
to me ordering such tests should have been a no brainer.
as it turns out the yankees will not need wang this year because so many future resources were ties up in sabathia, burnett, and teixeira. the success of the team this year is nice , but it doesn’t change the fact cashman burned a #2 pitcher by not doing what should have been routine tests.
doctors give opinions and advice. that’s why there are second opinions. the yankees made the final decision on which doctors to listen to on rehab . this was on the yankees and cashman is clearly in charge so it’s on him.
i know almost all of you don’t want to hear it, but you have your head in the sand over this issue because the yankees are 2 1/2 games out in front.
im going to enjoy a good shot at #27 this season like everyone else, but i can’t wait until wang is free of cashman’s mismanagement .
“*And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he’s watchin’ us all in the eye of the tiger*”
Heh, the Tigers probably could use Halladay. I wouldn’t count them out unless they can’t pay.
Duh, yeah. Cone.
Weaver, Cone, and the last one to make it easier is this decade.
G. Lloyd ?
link: http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyma.....2845612121
Blanton with Philly last year?
At the end of the trade deadline day Doc will end up in the NL.
If we have votes, I vote for Colin Curtis. He’s a fine hitter. He’s not a super-prospect. I bet he could fill in fine without any hype surrounding him.
The attention paid if Jackson were called up would be ridiculous for a developing player.
Oh Hot Damn This Is My Jam look @ THIS SIX PITCHERS
Mon, Jul 27 7:08 pm EDT A. Burnett vs. J. Shields
Tue, Jul 28 7:08 pm EDT C. Sabathia vs. S. Kazmir
Wed, Jul 29 7:08 pm EDT J. Chamberlain vs. M. Garza
Cone did NOT win a WS game for the Jay’s in ‘92
http://www.baseball-reference......da01.shtml
he was 0-0 in 2 starts.
if there is one player the Yankees won’t be bringing up it’s Shelley Duncan. The Yankees need a late inning defensive substitute in the outfield and Duncan is more of a butcher out there than anyone they have. Bringing up Jackson, even those he isn’t ready offensively, probably makes the most sense since I’ve read he’s good defensively and can replace Damon late in close games. Hinkse gives the Yankees far more pop off the bench than Duncan anyway.
Blanton, yes.
Don’t know about Lloyd. If he was traded mid-season and won a world series game that season, then the radio guys made a mistake.
Cone, Weaver, and Blanton.
Doreen,
I think far less spotlight and pressure on him in an emergency callup than if he makes the team out of spring training next season.
My guess… Doc will be a Phillie.
“If we have votes, I vote for Colin Curtis. He’s a fine hitter. He’s not a super-prospect. I bet he could fill in fine without any hype surrounding him.”
Before El Nino arrived Colin played every position in the OF from CF to LF to RF and quite well too. IDK if it’s versatility in the OF PT spot of above average defense Colin is the guy, AJax fills the speed and bat..but it’s a bit too early for him and why take his ABs away. Then there is El Nino, who’s been learning to play the OF and is ok out there. Who knows.
Randy I,
There is help available for you.
m =
Could be. Could be.
it’d be sweet if the Yanks still had the division lead on August 1st. since the wild card format was adopted, 36 of the 42 division leaders on Aug. 1st went on to win the division. Either way, the Yanks are making the playoffs this year, and I’d bet they hold on and win the division instead of winning the wild card. they’ve proven they’re the best team in the AL east, 0-8 against the Red Sox or not. Plus, that record will change.
my 2 cents
This Team is Sick!
Joe wants a guy that can run and play D to replace Brett.
What are you guys talking about? We’re talking 2 weeks to give Damon and Swisher a spell. And to play late innings defense.
When Gardner comes back then you send him down to get his at-bats.
I swear, you guys treat this kid like he’s going to be some kind of superstar. Get him in and let him get some dirt on his uni before you start labeling him anything and handing CF over to him.
GRRRRR…
All i know is im excited for Thurs…Yanks will be facing Colon on Thursday……yankees TEE off on him in the past, i can not wait
Interesting note in the Charleston/WV game….recently drafted catcher, Jeff Farnham was promoted from Tampa of the Rookie League GCL and hit his first pro homer in his 2nd at bat. Charleston ha the lead 5-2 in the bottom of the 5th.
GB7
Could AJax handle the defense and pinch running duties right now? If the Yankees call him up and tell him not to worry about hitting, could he do that?
“There is help available for you.”
cash is king-
so you are on record that the next yankee pitcher who has a lisfranc fracture and who goes on 6 months of team ordered inactivity should NOT be tested to see if his lower body has lost it’s strength and should go into spring training throwing a full load like everyone else ?
a yes or no will suffice.
Im not sure I understand. I just saw ESPN breaking news that the Padres and Red Sox are discussing a deal for A. Gonzales. I thought there was no way this could happen because it would cost the Red Sox too much.
Once again, ESPN, the pawn of the Red Sox, is negotiating through the media. They put to the pressure on the Padres to have to respond in some manner by outright lying.
“What are you guys talking about? We’re talking 2 weeks to give Damon and Swisher a spell. And to play late innings defense.”
Which is why I’d rather it be Colin Curtis. In this stadium he can do something, prbly raise his value give him a cup of coffee in the show he’s the hottest hitter right now dangle the carrot and see if he exceeds expectations like Cisco eyes did.
Seriously yo don’t use the blog as a way to promote your nephew.
Randy,
I’m not feeding what’s troubling you.
“ESPN, the pawn of the Red Sox, is negotiating through the media. They put to the pressure on the Padres to have to respond in some manner by outright lying.”
ESPN or not the RS would have to offer a big load to take Adrian Gonzalez out of SD..a big load. The Pads already shut them down.
nynjpaweather A tornado warning has been issued for Queens and Nassau Counties of New York through 7:15 PM.
Doreen
July 26th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
GB7
Could AJax handle the defense and pinch running duties right now? If the Yankees call him up and tell him not to worry about hitting, could he do that?
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Yes he could, Doreen…easily. Whether they chose to do that and limit his at bats, I’m not sure. He still has much work to do on breaking pitches, but, he’s really come along on hitting to center and right field. He does have a habit of always turning it on after his promotions, though.
If anything I’d expect the Mets to go hard for Adrian if he’s on the table.
Brandon -
I agree with you.
My husband and I have seen Curtis play a couple of times this year (at Trenton). He’s very impressive. Looks like a baseball player. I think he could do it and next be flustered.
Sat about 30 feet from 1B today at YS. Pretty cool. New YS is really neat, but does not have the feel of PNC Park — not as intimate or feeling that close to the field.
Clearly the Pirates and Yankees can’t be compared…I’m comparing stadiums.
Some obsevations from an out of town Yankee addict who also has two season tickets 6 rows behind home plate at PNC:
1. Once old YS is torn down, the wind effect will stop. It’s clear that old YS is funneling wind off the Hudson.
2. Damn that right field is short. It doesn’t seem like that on YES. Raise the wall, please.
3. The Pirates have 384 premium
seats (Lexus Club) and the Legends seats have what, 5000? The Lexus club is almost as big as the Legends main club at YS, for about 1/10th the people. I’d limit Legends to about 500-1000 (just behind home plate) and redo the rest of the Stadium as normal seating with normal prices for normal people. I can’t believe seating revenue is that big a part if the business plan.
4. Food and services in Legends are cool. Ketel One us a neat little area.
5. What’s with the scoreboard? It could be reprogrammed overnight to show all games in progress at the same time, as well as pitch count, speed, location in a smaller font. Never having been there, I had to search for a bit to find everything.
I’m sure you all have heard this before–just a bit of perspective from someone who goes to 20-30 games per year to see a poor team in a great park.
Igawa has given up 5 runs on 32 pitches and an out to go yet in the first…I’m leaving already (added by Mobile using Mippin)
* Darn my fingers today *** NOT be flustered. sorry.
Banuelos has just given up a 2 run homer after hitting Sanchez in the foot. He’s piling up a lot of innings, this year. He’s quite likely wearing down. Small kid and just 18 years old.
Note on Ricky Henderson FWIW:
My brothers Cousin -in -Law played with him when he was on the Newark Bears.
The cousin thought it so much of him he went to Cooperstowm to see the induction.
ben g
July 26th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Seriously yo don’t use the blog as a way to promote your nephew.
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I think Pete’s the one who makes the blog rules. Thanks.
July 26th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Seriously yo don’t use the blog as a way to promote your nephew
The guy cant talk about his nephew???
ben g -
A lot of us have expressed interest in the progress of SJ44’s nephew. We actually enjoy and look forward to the updates.
Doreen everytime I see Curtis in ST he has a sweet compact swing, won’t hit many HRs but has XBH potential. He turns it up a notch in big games, in that Trenton playoff the kid could have won the MVP for batting .414 in that series. Him and Austin were insanely clutch but it was AA.:?
GB7 =
Thanks.
cash is king-
i didn’t think you answer the question.
like i said , head in the sand.
enjoy the darkness.
I don’t need a blog to promote my nephew . Folks here want to know hoe he’s doing, Pete included.
You don’t like it, ignore the posts.
My pleasure, Doreen. Happy to help.
Seriously yo don’t use the blog as a way to promote your nephew.
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Seriously yo, I like hearing the updates on his nephew. Keep em coming SJ44.
Umm. If any of you are in Queens, you might want to head to the basement and avoid the tornado headed your way…
Was anyone else annoyed hearing all day on ESPN about Jim Rice, the should be non Hall of Famer. I cant believe ESPN tried to steal away Rickey’s day. I wanted to hear about Rickey, instead I hear about Jim Rice saving a life. The made up story of Jim Rice saving a life.
Ya know who else saved a life, A-Rod.
Doubt it will be a-jax called up. I can see duncan/j-rod/pena being called up.
Doubt it will be a-jax called up. I can see duncan/j-rod/pena being called up.
Funny thing is he was roomies w/ Dustin Pedroia, if Colin is called up Aug. 6 we play the RS he’ll see a big game or two there. Can he adjust is the question and will Kevin Long see something in him if he is brought up that is.
SJ: Keep the updates coming. We love ‘em.
“ben g” should be here when the fake SJ44’s are.
they rarely talk about his nephew.
J-Rod is inj.
Duncan is an absolute hell to the no…the guy coming up has to play some CF and COF defense, none of which Bam Bam Duncan provides.
Peter Gammons just said that the Padres would like to trade Adrian but do not know how to sell it to their fanbase. Is this guy full of himself or what!
Ben, j-rod is on the DL.
“enjoy the darkness.”
You’re the one living in darkness and you don’t even know it.
Hey rebecca i ‘m in brooklyn and I’ve been hearing explosions thunder like.
Is it really going to get that bad becca?
Seriuosly hearing about the progress on SJs Nephew is one of the many things that makes the comment section of this blog so special.
“i have no idea why the blog is giving cashman a pass on wang’s shoulder injury.”
I’m thinking it’s because Wang had a shoulder injury that needed surgery in 2001, and he also had a bad shoulder the first year that he came up to the bigs.
Jim Pir-one July 26th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Peter Gammons just said that the Padres would like to trade Adrian but do not know how to sell it to their fanbase. Is this guy full of himself or what!
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Dude, will you give your Red Sox paranoia a freaking rest already?
“I don’t need a blog to promote my nephew . Folks here want to know hoe he’s doing, Pete included.”
not only do i like hearing about about the inside scoop on the #4 draft pick in the country, but i like the inside info sj44 shares in general.
the blog would be even better if more posters came on who had his inside access to the game.
LoL I like DT’s comment
Someone sounds jealous. Wow.
Giuseppe Franco
July 26th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Dude, will you give your Red Sox paranoia a freaking rest already?
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I would if I had heard about Rickey Henderson today, instead, all I heard about was Jim Rice, and his alleged saving of a life. What I do know is that A-Rod saved a child and I believe on the Boston streets.
kelvin: If you’re in Brooklyn you’re okay–the storm’s past you
No need to be afraid of tornadoes.
They are certainly lethal but I’ve lived in an area where tornadoes are not uncommon at all and I’ve never had to run for safety in over 30 years.
“”No. 1, the Padres would require an extraordinary package of prospects in any deal for Gonzalez, who is young, relatively cheap and a star,” Olney writes.
“The second hurdle would be whether the San Diego ownership would approve the deal and risk angering the team’s fan base even more.” Keep in mind the Padres came close to dealing staff ace Jake Peavy this season and cut ties with all-time saves leader (and fan favorite) Trevor Hoffman this winter.”
Buster Olney just slapped Peter Gammons long red nose.
Jim Pir-one July 26th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
I would if I had heard about Rickey Henderson today, instead, all I heard about was Jim Rice, and his alleged saving of a life. What I do know is that A-Rod saved a child and I believe on the Boston streets.
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ESPN is not the only network that will show it. Try the MLB Network and take a chill pill.
“I’m thinking it’s because Wang had a shoulder injury that needed surgery in 2001, and he also had a bad shoulder the first year that he came up to the bigs.”
Personally, that’s why I accept Wang’s injury as natural.
Gonzalez is from San Diego and the fanbase would be very upset if he’s traded.
Wang’s troubles this year is a big news story in baseball, not just the Yanks and their fan base, I think. He was highly successful previously, after all.
I don’t know if it will ever happen, but some investigative journalism might be in order. What are the facts, including Wang’s previous injury history – including prior shoulder issues – how was he handled, what did key people know/do and when did they know/do them?
Just a thought. Probably won’t happen, though. I can’t remember seeing a similar piece.
Randy, how do you know what kind of tests were done? You speak as if you have personal knowledge of this situation. If you don’t you are making assumptions on something that you do not have all the necessary information. The GM needs to be able to delegate medical decisions to doctors. Doctors proposed a certain course of treatment and tests. I’m not sure what you want past that.
yankees need to spend money n buy other teams young players who have potential, instead of buying high priced players
Phil Coke got the win? They shouldn’t give wins to people who blow games.
When the only thing that can be said of a player is that he was one of the most feared hitters for 10 years, he does not belong as a Hall of Famer
By the way, Giuseppe, I wont stop with my RS “paranoia” (concerns), but I will buy some of your hair products
so – any chance the Yankees get Smoltz the next time they play the Red Sox??
Jim Pir-one
July 26th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Giuseppe Franco
July 26th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Dude, will you give your Red Sox paranoia a freaking rest already?
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I would if I had heard about Rickey Henderson today, instead, all I heard about was Jim Rice, and his alleged saving of a life. What I do know is that A-Rod saved a child and I believe on the Boston streets.
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Nothing alledged about Rice going into the stands while everyone else stood around gawking. A small child was hit in the face by a foul ball. He went into the stands, picked up the child and carried him/her into the Boston clubhouse where the team doctor, Dr. Arthur Pappas worked on him and got him breathing until taken to the hospital for surgery.
“Rice’s most notable humanitarian accomplishment occurred during a nationally televised game on August 7, 1982, when he rushed into the stands to help a young boy who had been struck in the head by a line drive off the bat of Dave Stapleton. As other players and spectators watched, Rice left the dugout and entered the stands to help 4-year old Jonathan Keane, who was bleeding heavily. Rice carried the boy onto the field, through the Red Sox dugout and into the clubhouse, where the young boy could be treated by the team’s medical staff.[9] Team doctor Arthur Pappas later said that Rice’s actions may have saved the boy’s life.”
San Diego’s a mellow town, but unless Pujols is coming back for Adrian, I think things would get very nasty down there very quickly.
we need to call a cf up.
no way should melky be the only cf on the team & damon & swish should not be options.
damon especially because he can get hurt.
i also don’t see them playing pena out of position in cf.
ajax makes sense unless there is another cf possibility??
i don’t think we should trade for a cf unless our minor league options don’t work.
we can’t possibly lose much if any production when comparing to gardner/melky & might gain some.
“I’m thinking it’s because Wang had a shoulder injury that needed surgery in 2001, and he also had a bad shoulder the first year that he came up to the bigs.”
raymagnetic-
wouldn’t you ,if you were the gm, be all the more inclined to order strength testing on wang before beginning rigorous spring training throwing after 6 months of team ordered inactivity if the pitcher had previous shoulder problems earlier in his career ?
the red sox do this kind of strength testing though it’s no guarantee a pitcher will escape injury. i’m not saying wang wouldn’t have had serious issues anyway. i’m saying the issues could have been caught before spring training started and a much better rehab plan could been implemented.
wang was seriously weakened and still not recovered from his lisfranc injury when spring training began. that is a fact everyone agrees on. i just think it’s obvious it should have been noticed by the yankees and he should not have begun a normal spring training.
Austin Jackson, for what the Yankees need, is unfortunately the best option.
If you’re replacing Gardner you need someone that can play defense and has some speed on the bases–any power from the bat is secondary.
Unfortunatley, if Jackson was called up and then overwhelmed, it could send him back.
On the flip side, it now looks real good that we didn’t trade him for Halladay, huh?
Rebecca -
there are no accidents/coincidences and everything happens for a reason.
Rebecca,
There are many reasons a player could be removed from a lineup.
“raymagnetic-
wouldn’t you ,if you were the gm, be all the more inclined to order strength testing on wang before beginning rigorous spring training throwing after 6 months of team ordered inactivity if the pitcher had previous shoulder problems earlier in his career ?
the red sox do this kind of strength testing though it’s no guarantee a pitcher will escape injury. i’m not saying wang wouldn’t have had serious issues anyway. i’m saying the issues could have been caught before spring training started and a much better rehab plan could been implemented.
wang was seriously weakened and still not recovered from his lisfranc injury when spring training began. that is a fact everyone agrees on. i just think it’s obvious it should have been noticed by the yankees and he should not have begun a normal spring training.”
Randy,
You make great points. I was just responding to why the blog isn’t getting on Cashman.
The strength testing would have been a good idea, but I’m not totally sure it’s all Cashman’s fault being that he’s basically following doctors orders.
randy
Not trying to argue, just a question. If the RS did the testing what happened to Dice K? What they have said about him is that he was totally out of shape. He also has had issues with a tired arm at least one other year.
Jim Pir-one July 26th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
By the way, Giuseppe, I wont stop with my RS “paranoia” (concerns), but I will buy some of your hair products
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You couldn’t possibly have any hair left with all the hair pulling you do whenever someone on ESPN mentions the Red Sox.
Rebecca,
I don’t see how a call-up would hurt Jackson. If he gets enough playing time, even if he does poorly, I think he will benefit.
Take Melky for example, they called him up when he CLEARLY wasn’t ready and he failed in every respect. When he went back down to AAA he played A LOT better and came back the next year ready to contribute.
The only thing that I don’t want to see happen is Jackson gets called up and sits on the bench for a week straight. If he does get called up I’d like Girardi to start him vs lefties and sub him in for defense.
“The strength testing would have been a good idea, but I’m not totally sure it’s all Cashman’s fault being that he’s basically following doctors orders.”
raymagnetic-
i find it odd that doctors would say do no strength testing to see is he was ok after 6 months of no activity so a serious injury would heal.
if a doctor or doctors gave that advice he or she was totally wrong and that’s an issue that should be dealt with.
someone clearly made a mistake in not checking wang out before spring training after the long ordered non activity. it could be his doctor or it could be the yankees. i think it’s important to never let this happen again.
the ball was dropped.
i think it was cashman simply because he’s the man nowadays with the yankees. if it was someone else i’m open to hear the specifics. i think it’d be a great story for a reporter to look into because someone made the decision to let wang begin spring training when he was physically incapable of throwing normally.
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I’ve read a bunch of comments today about how Phil Coke has been pitching poorly including the home run today. I was listening to the game on radio today but apparently the home rum pitch was about hit off Ellis shoetops, it’s just one of those situations where a hitter just does something special with a pitch.
Coke has given up runs in only 3 of his last 24 appearances, that isn’t exactly chopped liver. In 15 of those games he did not allow a hit. Not everyone is Mo or Phil Hughes, but he certainly has been very good and should get even better with more experience since he has both the stuff and competitiveness to excel out there.
maine yankee-
i think matsuzaka’s case where he was strength tested shows there’s no guarantee that a pitcher is going to be fixed right away. it’s my understanding that his injury took place in the WBC tournament.
at least the red sox caught it and shut him down. with wang the yankees totally missed it and it strains credibility to think he shouldn’t have been checked out before beginning throwing.
i looking at a very specific pointy in time and saying that wang was mishandled by the yankees.
that point in time was the first day of spring training when he began full workouts when he was injured. that was just wrong, and the yankees should have known he was injured.
they would have found out by simple strength testing.
it’s logical to assume that there’d be weakness after 6 months of no activity so it’s logical to order tests.
it didn’t happen.
FWIW, and maybe this has been discussed; if so, apologies:
I would think Jackson would make some sense, given:
1) Only CF is Melky;
2) Heading to TB, who, if memory serves, was a very aggressive team on the bases (see: defense first);
3) The way the offense is performing, a defensive CF is more important and can be compensated for;
4) The pitchers presumably would vote for an OF, not another DH (see: Duncan).
Steve
randy
The RS shut him down only after it was obvious they had to do something.
He was on the DL, came back and still wasn’t right.
Pro sports are littered with players like Wang.
It isn’t just because they are mishandled. Pitching is very unkind to the human body.
You could make a list to infinity of players that for one reason or another had their career ended because of injury.
I know you don’t like Cashman but you can’t without a doubt say Wangs injury is on him.
Also he owes no explanation to us as fans what went on with how this was handled.
Welllll, just got back from the swb yankees-mudhens game in Toledo…i was reminded of one thing…Kei Igawa couldnt even pitch to little leaguers and be successful…he gave up 10 runs…5 in the first inning. Ajax didnt play not sure why, and Ramiro Pena looked pretty good in center, made a nice diving catch and had a 2run homer to right.
correction-Igawa gave up 9 runs on 11 hits in 5 innings….and it took him 119 pitches to do that.
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