Game 99: Yankees at Rays (updated with Girardi audio)
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YANKEES (60-38)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (9-4, 3.74).
RAYS (54-45)
Upton CF
Crawford LF
Longoria 3B
Zobrist 2B
Pena 1B
Burrell DH
Gross RF
Hernandez C
Bartlett SS
Pitching: RHP James Shields (6-6, 3.70).
TIME/TV: 7:10, YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees were 9-1 on their homestand and tonight start a nine-game road trip to Tampa, Chicago and Toronto. They lead Boston by 2.5 games and Tampa by 6.5. The Yankees have won 22 of their last 28 and 45 of 66.
ROAD WARRIORS: The Yankees are 25-21 on the road. Only the Angels (28-20) are better in the AL.
LOOK OUT, JOE: The Dodgers (62-36) will have the best record in baseball but the Yankees are only two games behind them now.
RAYS REPORT: The Yankees are 4-4 against the Rays this season.
SERIES STREAK: The Yankees have won eight of their last nine series. They have won 22 series this season, two fewer than all of last season.
SWEET 16s: Here is the latest on the Sandman and the Franchise:
Mariano Rivera’s last 16 games: 16 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 15 strikeouts.
Phil Hughes’ last 16 games: 21 innings, 11 hits, 0 runs, 4 walks, 25 strikeouts.
BURNETT BLASTS OFF: A.J. Burnett has a 1.93 ERAin his last seven games. Opponents have hit .208 against him.
THEY’RE HOT: Derek Jeter is 6 of 13 with six RBI … Mark Teixeira is 6 of 16 with five RBI and four extra-base hits … Jorge Posada is 7 of 17 with five runs scored, five RBI and four extra-base hits. … Melky Cabrera is 5 of 8 with thee runs scored and four walks … Cody Ransom is 3 of 7 with three doubles and three runs scored.
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS MAN: Mark Melancon has not pitched since July 10.
WELL-RESTED: Alex Rodriguez had yesterday off. He is 1 of his last 12 with six strikeouts.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY: A-Rod turns 34 today. The beat writers are all chipping in and taking him out for dinner tonight after the game. What a time that will be. We’re thinking of either Macaroni Grill or Applebees. He can get whatever he wants.
Back with more later.
UPDATE, 4:24 p.m.: Second-round draft pick J.R. Murphy is in the clubhouse and will work out with the team.
UPDATE, 5:08 p.m.: The first place Yankees will be secondary news tomorrow with the bizarre happenings in Queens. Omar Minaya accused the News beat writer of bringing down Tony Bernazard because he wanted his job. Today seems like beginning of the end for Minaya.
UPDATE, 5:45 p.m.: Joe Girardi just said they wanted to keep the extra pitcher because the bullpen is a little short (Hughes is down today, for instance). Melancon is not really available in a tight spot, either. Not fair to just toss him in there at this point.
They will need a CF at some point, or at least another OF. There is little chance Johnny Damon can play every day, especially not with five of the next nine games on turf. They don’t seem to want Eric Hinske lumbering around in left field. They seem only to trust him in right field at this point.
UPDATE, 5:58 p.m.: Here is the Girardi audio. He was in the dugout, so the quality is not terrific. Best I could do:
UPDATE, 6:38 p.m.: You have to watch of these videos over on SNY.TV of the Mets fiasco today.
Watch Omar Minaya’s bizarre attack on Adam Rubin here along with Rubin’s response.
One of the first things you learn at journalism school is not to become the story. This has to be a bad spot for Rubin. But Minaya is teetering on the brink of full-scale nuttiness. It’s unfathomable how the Wilpons could let him run their team at this point.
I covered the Mets before I was promoted to the Yankees. They are are wildly dysfunctional organization but what happened today was an all-timer. It’s too bad because Mets fans are largely good folks who care deeply about their team. They deserve better.
UPDATE, 6:52 p.m.: There is a report on AOL Fanhouse that the Yankees are interested in Bronson (or as A-Rod calls him, Brandon) Arroyo. Considering he has roughly $16 million left on his deal, the Reds would have to include a boatload of money. Can’t see them taking on that much money for a No. 5 starter.
Arroyo is still scheduled to start tomorrow for the Reds. This rumor seems like just that, a rumor.
UPDATE, 7:08 p.m.: We’re underway in Tampa. A nice 72 degrees inside The Trop. Good pitching matchup, should be a fun game to watch.
UPDATE, 7:11 p.m.: After a little more checking, the Arroyo thing is not true.
UPDATE, 7:30 p.m.: How about Hideki? He scores from first on a double by Posada. Matsui looked like he had just finished a marathon when he scored. But it’s 1-0.
UPDATE, 7:32 p.m.: Robbie again with the RISP? So Matsui scores from first and Cano triples with a runner on second? This is real wrath of God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.
Yanks 3-0.
UPDATE, 7:47 p.m.: Breaking news: Brian Cashman is talking trade with Adam Rubin of the Mets. Johan Santana for Alan Horn, Kei Igawa, Cody Ransom and a PTBNL.
Meanwhile, A.J. Burnett is having a classic A.J. Burnett game: No hits, four strikeouts, two walks, wild pickoff throw, 159 pitches in two innings. OK, only 37. But still.
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: The Reds just shot down the Arroyo rumor, too. Mike Francesa said to be furious.
UPDATE, 8:16 p.m.: OK, so Cano now has a hit with a runner in scoring position and has drawn a walk. Has that ever happened in the same game before?
UPDATE, 8:41 p.m.: A-Rod got rung up on a low pitch by Brian Knight. He barked at him a few seconds but was not tossed. Joe Girardi came in for the rescue.
A-Rod is 1 for 14 with seven strikeouts in the last four games.
UPDATE, 8:55 p.m.: A.J. Burnett is throwing an absolute gem through five innings: 1 hit, 0 runs, 2 walks, 4 Ks. He has retired eight straight. 3-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 8:58 p.m.: And it’s an R-Bomb for Robbie. The Canoabino! Yankees lead 4-0.
UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: Wow, Swish just hit one to right field that nearly reached the back row. 5-0 Yankees. Ninth time the Yanks have gone back-to-back this season.
UPDATE, 9:34 p.m.: Burrell can’t run but, wow, A-Rod has a cannon.
UPDATE, 9:39 p.m.: Counting tonight, Burnett has a 1.68 ERA in his last seven starts.
UPDATE, 9:48 p.m.: The Birthday Boy lines a two-run double off the wall in left. Yankees 7-1 and this game is well in hand. Kate Hudson in the crowd cheering like crazy. Tampa TV keeps showing her. Not because she is a celebrity, because she’s the youngest person ever to attend a Rays game.
UPDATE, 10:04 p.m.: Albaladejo gets ripped, forcing Mariano to get up. It’s poor innings like this that lead to Mo being used needlessly and cause problems in games later in the week.
Melancon needs to pitch at some point, no? A 7-1 lead wasn’t enough?
UPDATE, 10:06 p.m.: Big K by Dave Robertson there. Telling you, he’s going to be very, very good down the road.
UPDATE, 10:17 p.m.: Career home run 200 for Johnny. Yankees open it up, 11-3. Back later with reaction from the clubhouse.
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Last Call for “Guess the Line Up”
Here’s who I have so far:
Andrew, Bill, BBFan, Patrick the Prospect Hugger, Henner (same)
Dan
IDCWYT
Hokiehill
Miggs, Andrew33, Largo (same)
NYY626, CT23, Laura (same)
Jim
No Hype
Take Alex to GNC instead.
Happy Birthday A-Rod.
Now go hit a grand slam
A-Rod strikes me more of a TGI friday’s type of guy!
Take Alex to the Olive Garden
go with the Mac Grill Alex…
ARod = Hooters
Happy Birthday A-Rod!
Lets go Yanks!
Erica:
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez SS
Posada C
Matsui DH
Canò 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pete, I hope you’re actually taking him to the Capital Grille. or you can hit the steakhouse in the Hard Rock. That might be too far a trip for you though.
Wow Pete, atleast step in up a notch and take Alex to the Outback or something
Pete, be sure to have him bring Madonna along so you can get the senior citizen discount…
got it Rebecca!
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Yep, sounds about right.
The Yankees lead MLB in home and road attendance ….
http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance
“Jeff Fletcher of AOL FanHouse hears that the Reds are close to making a deal after top team officials spoke on a conference call this morning. The Reds, fifth in the NL Central, are sellers and have pitchers like Bronson Arroyo, Aaron Harang and Francisco Cordero who could all appeal to teams seeking pitching.”
Harang please?
I don’t think the yankees should pursue very good relievers, like heath bell, because it can seriously come back to bite them in the a**. First, he will cost a lot. And I feel like he will fall apart in New york. This guy was a Met and he had over 5 era. Somehow, we have bad luck with acquiring relievers, and I don’t think it’s a good idea to mess with the bullpen. We should just pursue a 5th starter, like ducherer, and maybe an outfielder. What’s your opinion?
Take Alex to Chotchkie’s. The servers there have real flair.
is kate invited too?? how bout the kiddes? damn right applebees, or maybe chillis 5$ corses.please the fam and your accountant… really though, i dont really like a-rod, but its his birthday so I’ll try my hardest not to let my heart boo him when he goes up to bat tonight….
Take Alex to Mons Venus. I hear they have an excellent buffet.
“i dont really like a-rod, but its his birthday so I’ll try my hardest not to let my heart boo him when he goes up to bat tonight…”
So YOU’RE the one I keep hearing on TV and shaking my head at!
Does Chris Carlin have a jawline? He looks like a character from Thumb Wars.
Hey, I was right.
That’s a pretty cool gesture with dinner, Pete. Do you guys do that with any other players?
Two words Pete: Awesome Blossom.
Sweet, nailed that lineup prediction.
Pete, take Alex to the Wing House!
It appears that the Yanks are stretching Kroenke out at Scranton. He had a 4 inning start today. Is he getting ready for a trade or a September callup? Kontos is going nowhere. He’s scheduled for elbow surgery or already had it). Also, they have been stretching out Trenton relief pitcher, Kanekoa Texeira with 6 straight starts.
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixera DH
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Cano 2b
Swisher 1B
Hinske RF
Carbera CF
“The Yankees lead MLB in home and road attendance ….”
Like I said, the fans don’t care that RF is not what it needs to be.
Congratulations go out to the following record number of people who correctly guessed today’s line up:
Andrew 2:24
Bill 2:45
BBFan 2:49
Patrick the Prospect Hugger 2:58
Henner 3:22
Eights 3:35
Congratulations to all of today’s winners!!!! Please tune in tomorrow at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”
I had Matsui and Posada in the wrong order. Other than that, I was dead on.
Erica:
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
A-Rod 3B
E Hinske RF
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher DH
Cabrera CF
Yankees WIN! with Hinske going yard!
I think Pete was joking about dinner
GB: It does look like they’re stretching Texeira out
What about In-N-Out Burger?
his name is Chris Carlin? I thought it was Nick Johnson….
Laura-
3 other people had that same mistake you did. Flipping Posada and Matsui is one of the most common quirks I watch for in these line up sumbissions
Re-post
I thought it was supposed to be the “Phranchise”
“Or as Shelley Duncan would have called it, the greatest day ever.”
If only Shelley was there…..
TB might have gotten his clock cleaned.
Seriously I’m surprised the Mets fired him. Thought they would have promoted him.
That’s how they seem to roll.
With Joba nearing his limit, I’m not loving Ace and Mitre getting all those starts. Neither has pitched a big game in their careers.
Veras and Ramirez tanking and Marte’s injury really screwed with the Hughes original plan and now they’re sort of walking the thin line with this rotation. It’s very good but 1 case of tendinitis away from being in trouble.
Snell is intriguing.
“HAPPY BIRTHDAY: A-Rod turns 34 today. The beat writers are all chipping in and taking him out for dinner tonight after the game. What a time that will be. We’re thinking of either Macaroni Grill or Applebees”
Kate H. gives her approval, as long as it isn’t Mons Venus for dessert.
MLB.com already speculating about 2010 HOF
Leading candidates are Blyleven & Dawson, with R. Alomar as a first-timer.
What are the odds NO ONE makes it next year??
Now Tony Bernazard can go back to driving buses. Just make sure you stay behind the yellow line, or he WILL kick your ass.
Matt & Yankee Trader
Thank you for your entries, but however please try to submit them by 3:40. Guessing the line up loses some of it’s suspense after Pete has actually posted the line up
Please play tomorrow though. The game starts at 2!
Sports writers at Macaroni Grill??? The restaurant won’t allow it since they serve wine there on the HONOR system.
i hope ARod scores tonight
what do i win? what do i win??
Oh, right. Why didn’t I think of that?
Yeah, if you take the players I had wrong and move them around and put different players back in the lineup, then I was dead on too!
Since the Yankees have to pay so much in luxury tax and revenue sharing to other clubs, those same teams should have to take the average attendance figures when the Yankees are in town, subtract the average attendance when they’re not in town, and pay back the difference to the Yankees…
Alex is notoriously cheap. I say take him to Waffle House.
Bryan
July 27th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I think Pete was joking about dinner
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I think most of us realize this Bryan
“i hope ARod scores tonight”
Kate Hudson is winking and giving a big thumbs up!
Sorry, I didnt see that it was posted already posted.
if Angel Berroa was still on the team, would he have gone with you and still qualified for the Senior Discount or the Early Bird Special?
You can see that Omar’s trying to be way too PC.
Goodness Minaya is a terrible public speaker.
SS Jeter
LF Damon
1B Tex
3b Arod
DH Matsui
2B Cano
C Posada
RF Hinske
CF Melky
Omar…you’re next buddy.
Yeah, Rebecca, It noticed that about a month ago that they had Texeira starting and now has 6 starts. I doubt that it’s for this year because of the innings, but, he’s really been effective in this role. I haven’t seen him, but, numbers wise, he looks promising.
pete: when it was ortiz’s birthday the sox were in tampa too. gammons arranged for multiple limos to take the man of honor and his teammates to joes stone crabs where they dined on surf and turf, creamed spinach and potatoes and drank bottles upon bottles of wine — all on the gammons dime. care to upstage?
Tony Bernazard, Building Super, E. Orange N.J.
Omar is really tripping over his words. Very “interesting” statement by him.
Henner-
Bragging rights that you know the inner mind of Joe Girardi. And my heartfelt congratulations
(Ummm- the rest of you can please stop guessing line ups now. The mystery is gone. And somehow you are all still wrong)
Was that for Poopi’s 38th birthday?
Ooooh that Snell
Can’t you Snell that Snell
Ooooh that Snell
The Snell of death surrounds you !!
Pete, I’m actually throwing in a frozen pizza after the game.
You two can join me. We can have it on the mound.
Plus it’s gourmet.
GB7-
Texeira and Swisher for Jeff Marquez, Jhonny Nunez and Betemit. Not a bad deal. Is Betemit out of baseball? How are Nunez and Marquez doing?
Erica-Sorry for the late entry, just came online! Wanted Hinske to play in RF tonight.
Never heard of Macaroni Grill. Sounds bizarre,
Last weekend was in Pittsburgh and ate at a Golden Corral ?
Not to be hatin on the country folk but it was a frightening scene.
Matt-
Its cool. You were only about a minute too late. Pete probably posted it as you were typing. Please join in tomorrow!
Omar trying to bring HR into this… poor Harold Reynolds takes the fall again.
Rosenthal says the A’s would likely consider a “modest prospect” for Duchscherer.
Should be tempting for the Yankees if true. He’s a versatile arm if healthy. His first rehab start went well, and he should be ready within two weeks.
In Billy Beane speak though “modest prospect” could mean Montero:)
I can’t ever remember a baseball GM start off a press conference by talking about the human resources department providing the basis for a personnel decision.
Omar is lost, as is that franchise.
Take A-rod to a chinese buffet.. he probably deserves the 5.99 buffet…
Terrible lineup
Why is Swisher in there? He is hitting .200 since May!! Why is Hinske on the roster if he never plays?
And Ransom had 2 doubles yesterday, why not ride the hot hand and give him another shot to start?
And Posada? against this lineup? they are going to steal 4-5 bases on him. This is the perfect opportunity to give Molina a couple of starts.
I was born on the exact same day as A-Rod in 1975…today.
I’ve been charting our progress comparitively….How’s that for a measuring stick?
Yankee Trader-
Thats okay. Come online sooner tomorrow!!!
Hinske is due for a start, so hold on to that guess for tomorrow
MBD
July 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I was born on the exact same day as A-Rod in 1975…today.
I’ve been charting our progress comparitively….How’s that for a measuring stick?
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Hahaha. I was born the exact same day as Jake Gyllenhall in 1980. I am SO much better and more accomplished!
“Terrible lineup
Why is Swisher in there? He is hitting .200 since May!! Why is Hinske on the roster if he never plays?
And Ransom had 2 doubles yesterday, why not ride the hot hand and give him another shot to start?
And Posada? against this lineup? they are going to steal 4-5 bases on him. This is the perfect opportunity to give Molina a couple of starts.”
People complain before every game…yet we’re 9-1 since the break…people making these decisions are doing a good job so far, wouldn’t you say?
GB: It’d be something if he turned into something.
That might yet be one of the best trades the Yankees have made in a long time.
Kroenke’s walks are still a bit high, no?
MBD ,
be happy that you dont get booed by 50k people at work every day..
MBD Happy Birthday.
Someone should take you to Don Shula’s steakhouse.
“i hope ARod scores tonight”
Kate Hudson is winking and giving a big thumbs up!
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K-Hud seems to me to be a “carpenter’s dream” if anybody remembers what that means.
Happy Birthday A-Rod
Let’s Go Yankees!!!
Listening to Omar, you come to understand why the Mets are in the sorry state that they are in. The guy lives on some other planet. Totally out of touch.
In other words, if the Daily News hadn’t said, “Enough of the bulls***!” Bernazard would still be bullying poor young Mulvas around. Way to be pre-emptive, Mets.
“K-Hud seems to me to be a “carpenter’s dream” if anybody remembers what that means.”
Bronx, you may be aging yourself because I’m old and even I don’t know what that means.
LOL Omar calls out Adam Rubin right in front of him
Black Accord & Dan –
Thanks…I would trade the boos for the astonishing paycheck and the ability to hit a curveball….still can’t get that down.
Shula’s in Key West….that would be nice.
Yankee Trader
July 27th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
GB7-
Texeira and Swisher for Jeff Marquez, Jhonny Nunez and Betemit. Not a bad deal. Is Betemit out of baseball? How are Nunez and Marquez doing?
Erica-Sorry for the late entry, just came online! Wanted Hinske to play in RF tonight.
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Yeah, Trader, that’s a good trade if Swisher never improves. Texeira just might be the wild card. He’s just 23 years old and this is his first pro starts. Walks are a little high, but the rest of the numbers are a lot better than one would imagine.
http://www.baseball-reference......xeir001kan
That look on Adam Rubin’s face is absolutely priceless. I am so DVR’ing this.
If I’m a mets fan listening to Omar, I might be crying right now
“You know, uh, you know, uh, you know, ah, uh, you know.”
How much are they paying this guy? He can’t even speak.
Hokiehill-
Actually, its Jake that complains about the line up everyday in a very similar style/comment.
I get worried if he doesn’t post his daily complaint by 4.
Girardi could write a line up of 400 hitters and Jake would still find fault with it! I admire dedication like that
MBD
July 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I was born on the exact same day as A-Rod in 1975…today.
I’ve been charting our progress comparitively….How’s that for a measuring stick?
****
Erica
Hahaha. I was born the exact same day as Jake Gyllenhall in 1980. I am SO much better and more accomplished!
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MBD-You’ll have to ask Kate!
I was born the exact same date and year as Moses!!
I was born on the same day and year as Tia Carrera.
party on dude!
omar taking shot at a reporter what a loser
taking all the credit for adam work
“If I’m a mets fan listening to Omar, I might be crying right now”
I don’t think they need to hear this to be near tears. The Mets season should be sufficient to do that. LOL!
lol Adam Rubin. Oh man this is great.
Tony Bernazard vs. the entire AA team under the Tony Kornheiser banner at the Binghamton Mets NYSEG stadium.
No women and children. No weapons. Shirts optional.
That was kind of messed up for him to single out Rubin like that.
The Golden Corral is a buffet chain in Pennsylvania. It’s almost like a truck stop. The breakfasts arent bad…but I dont venture there for lunch or dinner.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 27th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
GB: It’d be something if he turned into something.
That might yet be one of the best trades the Yankees have made in a long time.
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I’m not expecting a lot, but, yeas it would be. It will be curious to see if they let him finish the season in Scranton, though.
“George Kontos recently had TJ Surgery and is out for a year. He has no trade value”
of all the injuries to players on the farm, this one bothered me the most. Kontos may well had been ready to make his mark in the bullpen for NYY (circa Joba 2007).
a shame
Nobody likes to be fired? Omar, there’s this thing known as proper English. Look it up.
It’s painful to listen to this press conference. Why does he keep stressing HR?? What is the significance of that?
It’s obvious he did not want to fire Bernazard.
Adam is ticked off
So out of curiosity I’m looking up who was born the same date as me. I’m going through saying oh, yeah, cool, and then I get this
2335 – William T Riker, Valdez Alaska, character on Star Trek Next Generation
Why would the mets even have a press conference around this firing? Why make it even a bigger deal than it was?
Just fire him and move on. Why make it into a theater production, especially when you know how bad Omar is in a press conference.
How could he involve Adam Rubin in the story? What is he thinking? What benefit is that to the mets to take on the press in that childish way?
Now not only is the firing a story – the press conference itself is going to be a story.
Omar has created a meta-story and that is now going to take on a life of its own that will outlast the bernazard firing itself.
The mets should have had the head of their HR department run the press conference…
Wow, just wow. I didn’t think much of Omar Minaya to begin with, but this is just unreal. If I’m Adam Rubin, it would become my life’s mission to dig up every single piece of dirt on the POS and run it on the front page.
LOL Wow! Rubin is feisty!
Omar just opened up Pandora’s box. Should never have used Rubin’s name, even if he is right.
CB:
You forget one crucial thing:
These are the Mets
Penthouse Club sounds more like a place AROD may end up tonight if he wants a steak:)
GB7-
Thanks for the link. Marquez has been awful, Nunez has pitched well in AA, recently called up to AAA. Betemit-any clue if he’s playing anywhere?
Omar, Wow
and some complain about Cashman. Look at the clown in Queens
“Why would the mets even have a press conference around this firing? Why make it even a bigger deal than it was?
Just fire him and move on.”
NYC could make fired Jimmy the Bell Hop at the Park Plaza a press conference. I mean it is NYC
This press conference is making me cringe. I’m embarrassed for Mets fans at how messed up this organization is.
At least it will cause some juicy gossip over the next few days.
That was pretty low that Omar told the world that the journalist who wrote this story was lobbying for a job in the organization.
Just looks bad. Even if Rubin did have an exe to grind.
Next time the children on here whine about Cashman, play back the tape of this press conference.
Which guy would you want to run your franchise, Omar or Cash?
It is PAINFUL to listen to Omar. A man who has no business being in that job.
Adam vs. Omar under the O’Neill banner going on right now! lol
What other team in baseball bats 2 of its three outfielders at the very bottom of the lineup?
The Mets are train wreck.
Omar: “HR…umm…ummm…interpersonal…ummm…HR…Adam Rubin!”
Seriously, a press conference is highly ineffective for firings. 3 am text messages are so much more efficient.
Omar is a buffoon. The Wilpon’s should schedule a press conference tomorrow to get rid of him.
Pete – you regret still not following the Mets?
Vick reinstated.
CB -
You’re right.
This an amazingly poorly run press conference.
He’s not even prepared. He should have had a written statement and said, no questions. Or deferred questions to the people who ran the investigation.
And it sounds like he had a day to get ready for it, too.
It does look suspicious that the journalist who wrote this damming story about Bernzeard was lobbying for his job.
Well, this gives the guys on the FAN something talk about for the next couple of days.
Bernazard was Omar’s guy. He stuck with him through gobs of nonsense.
Bernazard getting fired was Omar’s first sign of real weakness.
And now he’s taken an embarrassment and turned it into a flame war with a reporter.
What a disaster. Only the mets could take and awful, embarrassing story and throw a can of gasoline on it as their method of spin control.
“It does look suspicious that the journalist who wrote this damming story about Bernzeard was lobbying for his job.”
Whether he wanted the job or not, it doesn’t change the fact that what Bernazard did was wrong and was a fireable offense.
This right here is a tutorial of how NOT to handle a press conference.
So Pete,you have to chip in to buy a meal for a millionaire..there’s something wrong with that picture
Wow. Omar needs to take lessons from Cashman and stick to the “process”! He needs to learn how to talk for 20 minutes and say nothing! I can’t believe Omar dragged the reporter into this!
I would get A Rod the book, “How to hit with runners in scoring position 101″,,,,he needs to step it up w/the Rays and Sox on the horizon
Let’s not ever complain about Cashman rambling on about nothing. Sometimes the best things are left unsaid.
“Seriously, a press conference is highly ineffective for firings. 3 am text messages are so much more efficient.”
Somewhere in MIL, Willie is laughing his butt off.
Kay “utter disgrace”
Also hearing rumblings here where I live about a package that would send Martinez and Lee to Dodgers for the likes of Billingsley and a few others….
I guess Adam Rubin isin’t getting the Player Development job anymore LOL!!!
If Cash were doing this press conference, it would have been over an hour ago.
“Next time the children on here whine about Cashman, play back the tape of this press conference.”
Throughout this press conference I’ve found myself with the lingering yearning to hear the word “process” repeated over and over.
Anything would have been better.
It’s always like this every time Omar does one of these press conferences.
You are embarrassed just listening to him.
This might be worse than the press conference he had last year to fire Willie. And that was horrific.
Wow.
That Omar conference…unless Omar can produce some evidence that Rubin really was trying to lobby for a job, which is a really serious accusation, Omar’s kind of up a creek here…
Yankee Trader
July 27th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
GB7-
Thanks for the link. Marquez has been awful, Nunez has pitched well in AA, recently called up to AAA. Betemit-any clue if he’s playing anywhere?
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I think that Betemit cleared waivers and is still in the Sox organization at AAA Charlotte.
What can one even say after that?
Another clueless post. He’s hit with RISP all year. Over half his HR’s have come late and have either tied or given the Yankees the lead.
Try hard this week to post at least one thing that makes sense. We can start with one and build from there.
They should take Arod to “5 Guys Burgers & Fries”. You can’t beat that place, they give you free peanuts and have the best fries ever.
“Well, this gives the guys on the FAN something talk about for the next couple of days.”
That might be the worst result coming out of this press conference.
How do Wright, Santana and K rod feel about their organization?
What are joe and Evan saying?
Maybe we should offer Rubin a chance to be an assistant minor league guy in our organization, just to annoy the Mets.
Laura – Let’s stop the TB running game!
July 27th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
If Cash were doing this press conference, it would have been over an hour ago.
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I think Cash would have gone the much cleaner “press release” route instead of a circus tent
Ned Colletti, the Dodgers GM, said today the FOX Sports story on that reported trade is, “completely false”.
“Another clueless post. He’s hit with RISP all year. Over half his HR’s have come late and have either tied or given the Yankees the lead.”
SJ44, RDM is a troll. Please ignore him.
Take ARod to Hooters. What the heck he is single.
“What other team in baseball bats 2 of its three outfielders at the very bottom of the lineup?”
Teams that don’t have the best infield in baseball?
Can someone fill me in on what exactly is happening at this press conference?
What’s Omar saying?
“What other team in baseball bats 2 of its three outfielders at the very bottom of the lineup?”
The team with the best record in the American League.
“Can someone fill me in on what exactly is happening at this press conference?”
A lot happened, but the bombshell was that Omar accused Adam Rubin of trying to get Bernazard fired so that he could get his job.
Kay and Beiningo/Roberts are going crazy lol
adam got omar buddy fired and omar now taking shots at adam rubin
Take A-Rod to hooters?
Apparently he doesn’t like them.
“It does look suspicious that the journalist who wrote this damming story about Bernzeard was lobbying for his job.”
See here where the fire will start that will make this much worse for Omar and the Mets.
Omar never said that Rubin directly wanted Bernazard’s job. He never said that.
But Omar tried to imply that so that people will confuse the issues. Omar wanted the take away message people will walk away is that Rubin wanted Bernazard’s job without him saying it.
He wanted to paint Rubin guilty without needing to take responsibility for the accusation.
The press will not confuse this frontal assault on them.
Omar tried to take a page out of Washington politics. He tried to convert a controversy and misdirect attention by making it a story about the press.
This is classic spin the issue out of the world of politics.
But Omar’s so clumsy and awful and has so little skill that he completely botched the spin job the mets paid their PR firm a ton of money to plan.
What a disaster.
Omar Minaya going with the Chewbacca Defense.
Brilliant!
Omar just created the hugest firestorm since I don’t know when.
He basically fired Bernazard and then threw Adam Rubin of the Daily News under the bus for getting the story right. Told everyone that when the “take off your shirt” story came out, he had to see if Rubin wrote it because Adam wanted a job with Minaya.
Unreal…the talkies are going BANANAS right now.
At what point are they going to ask Omar what he is doing to fix the Mets???
“Try hard this week to post at least one thing that makes sense. We can start with one and build from there.”
That’s funny.
My advice… start with something easy. Like the uniforms. You know….Yanks sometimes wear white with blue pinstripes.
BX44: What are they saying?
I have the tv on SNY since they’re trying to get Rubin on.
Do you realize if Pete was still covering the Mets, he could have been run over by the bus today???????
Leave it to Rob Neyer to be level headed. This is worth a read folks.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/swe.....style.html
“Another clueless post”…humm…just looked it up..>A Rod w/RISP is batting .262 and RISP w/2 outs he is batting .243…is that good for a clean up hitter SJ44??? I guess I am wrong…..
LOL @ The Mets they are a mess
“But Omar’s so clumsy and awful and has so little skill that he completely botched the spin job the mets paid their PR firm a ton of money to plan.”
The whole thing was clumsy. He’s a horrible speaker. If you are going to levy veil accusations at someone, at least say them with some conviction and with some confidence. Uh, um, you know, uh, um. What a tool!
This is like Selena Roberts finding out that story about A-Rod.
Maybe there was an axe to grind and maybe Rubin was trying to get Bernzzard’s job. But that isin’t the point. The point was that Rubin was RIGHT. Just like Roberts was right.
Agendas should not matter. Both stories turned out to be true.
Well see how A Rod does against Tampa, Boston, and LA…those are the potential playoff teams…..
CB: The accusation that Rubin was trying to lobby for a job is bad enough on its own merits, even without the Bernazard stuff.
But if you throw Bernazard into it, holy moly.
The Mets might be bumping the Yanks off the back page with this one
Also hearing rumblings here where I live about a package that would send Martinez and Lee to Dodgers for the likes of Billingsley and a few others….
Ned Colletti, the Dodgers GM, said today the FOX Sports story on that reported trade is, “completely false”.
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Another example of Ken Rosenthal trying to leak the biggest rumor of the day
After the long wait my sorces tell me that Toronto will come up with 4 prospects including Travis Snider,J.P. Arencibia, Brett Cecil, and Justin Jackson in exchange for Halladay. All though this is an extremly high price to pay both sides look like they are willing to pull the trigger on this one. The “wow” factor JP has been talking about (or having every other GM and your fans calling you dumb as I see it) has been met with the proposal.
if the Yanks can p/u Duchscherer for a prospect like Suttle(orig drafted as a 3b which the A’s need in the worst way cuz Wallace will be a 1b) that would be a good move….he could pitch out of the pen in Aug and build up arm strength and maybe stretch out to take Joba’s spot once he hits his innings limit and if all goes well picking up his option for next year works too….i think Wang will need the surgery and be gone til the all star break next season so even with Hughes going into the rotation next year you still need a 4th starter…for as much as i love Andy he’s not a $10 mil pitcher at this point so it maybe time for him to return to Houston next year
“At what point are they going to ask Omar what he is doing to fix the Mets???”
They didn’t get a chance. That Rubin stuff took the press conference in another direction…and not in a good one either.
Personally, I like the idea of pursuing Aaron Harang or Bronson Arroyo as a 4th or 5th starter if the Yankees do not trade for a reliever and throw Aceves into the rotation.
Those guys should be able to be had on the relative cheap and won’t cost the big time prospects.
Get it done Cash.
Rebecca –
Same things that we’re saying… embarrassing, disgraceful, Omar should be ashamed, despicable, Mets are an abomination, rather than quiet the story, they turned it into a circus etc.
All 3 of them are fuming at Omar for bringing Rubin into this
Laura-
Maybe thats why Minaya threw Rubin under the bus. To create a diversion from the crappy job he is actually doing as GM!!!!!
Have the Mets sunk to Knicks-like levels yet?
Who cares about the Mets? This is a Yankee blog and the Mets are so bad they’re not even worth discussing!
champ809
July 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
if the Yanks can p/u Duchscherer for a prospect like Suttle(orig drafted as a 3b which the A’s need in the worst way cuz Wallace will be a 1b) that would be a good move….he could pitch out of the pen in Aug and build up arm strength and maybe stretch out to take Joba’s spot once he hits his innings limit and if all goes well picking up his option for next year works too….i think Wang will need the surgery and be gone til the all star break next season so even with Hughes going into the rotation next year you still need a 4th starter…for as much as i love Andy he’s not a $10 mil pitcher at this point so it maybe time for him to return to Houston next year
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Suttle has been out all year with elbow surgery. No value.
MLB trade rumors stated Duscherer looked good last night.
“A’s righty Justin Duchscherer, who has yet to pitch in the majors this season while coming off elbow surgery, recorded six outs on 18 pitches Sunday in a Class A rehabilitation assignment that was well-attended by scouts.
Duchscherer, 31, threw 22 more pitches in the bullpen, bringing his total to 40. He is scheduled to throw 60 in his next rehab appearance on Friday, which will take place after the 4 p.m. non-waiver deadline.
While Duchscherer is frequently injured, he will be highly motivated to pitch in the final two months as he prepares to enter the free-agent market. He has been an All-Star as both a starter and reliever, and has a 3.14 career ERA.
Any team that acquires Duchscherer will owe him the remainder of his $3.9 million salary for this season — about $1.3 million.
The A’s likely would accept a modest prospect in return.
Ian Snell took a 2-1 loss last night giving up 9 hits in 5 innings, but has been pitching very well.
Should we have any interest in either?
“Leading candidates are Blyleven & Dawson”
it needs to be:
Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Andre Dawson
all 3 players completely dominated, in their era
SJ,
In addition to ARod’s 10 of 19 HRs, when he was at 54 RBIs I saw someone note that 30 of his 54 RBIs either tied the game or gave the Yankees a lead.
I saw that the Power came back to beat the River Dogs last night, and Tony was 2-3 (IIRC). He must be having a blast.
“Maybe thats why Minaya threw Rubin under the bus. To create a diversion from the crappy job he is actually doing as GM!!!!!”
Well, his plan worked. The story went from “the Mets suck” to “Omar is a lowlife”. LOL!
I feel bad for my Met fan friends, (friend)
this reflects poorly on ownership as well.
Kay “I would have charged the podium”
Rebecca,
Omar and the Mets got awful advice once again.
Whatever PR firm they used told them to turn divert attention away from the Bernazard issue because it was so embarrassing and to try to turn the story into a process story about the nature of the press.
This is a page directly out of the politics of cynicism. You’re a governer and have an affair? No problem. Just try to make yourself a victim of the press. Attack the press. Misdirect the story from it’s substance to the way it’s being covered. Turn it into a process story.
What a dote. There is no way that this strategy was going to work. And there is no way Omar has the rhetorical skill to pull this off.
# RDM July 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
“Another clueless post”…humm…just looked it up..>A Rod w/RISP is batting .262 and RISP w/2 outs he is batting .243…is that good for a clean up hitter SJ44??? I guess I am wrong…..
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In 37 AB with RISP and 2 outs he has a .802 OPS and a .451 OBP.
In those 37 AB he walked 11 times.
BA isn’t the be-all end-all, but you probably don’t get that.
I think Pete’s been gunning for Angel Berroa’s job all season.
Funny thing is … he may have done better.
Maybe Omar had no answers for what the Mets would actually do as a ball club, so he just picked a donkey and ran with it.
Hey it kept him from talking about the team doing horrid. That is a plus.
omar a bitter loser
Kay: If they accused me of doing something like that, I would have charged the podium
LOL
CB:
And anyone that knows anything about the press knows that the press will protect their own, too.
“Suttle has been out all year with elbow surgery. No value.”
Actually, it was his shoulder that was operated on twice in less than one year.
“Who cares about the Mets? This is a Yankee blog and the Mets are so bad they’re not even worth discussing!”
Dude, this is a huge story. Plus, the game doesn’t start for hours. We’ll talk Yankees later.
If I’m the Wilpon’s, I’m not pleased.
Omar was supposed to put out a fire today and instead lit a new one.
Maybe next time Jeff Wilpon will step up and do what needs to be done rather than send someone out there to do it for him.
“Kay: If they accused me of doing something like that, I would have charged the podium”
Minaya would’ve kicked his butt.
Time to head off to the game. Go Yankees. I’ll be on the first base side. with the other 30,000 extra fans the Yankees bring to the ball park.
The Yankees have the best record in baseball since Arod’s return. His close and late numbers are outstanding.
The entire team has talked all year about how his production and his presence has changed their season.
More than half his HR’s have come late and have either tied the game or given the Yankees the lead.
Someone has to be an absolute moron to complain about ARod and his value to the team this year.
Then again, some people just like being stupid. They wear it well and are proud to do so.
That story by Rob on ESPN should be required reading for the dolts who go on the Anti-Arod rampages on here.
Then again, it makes too much sense so they won’t read it. If they do, will disregard it.
THEY’RE HOT: Derek Jeter is 6 of 13 with six RBI … Mark Teixeira is 6 of 16 with five RBI and four extra-base hits … Jorge Posada is 7 of 17 with five runs scored, five RBI and four extra-base hits. … Melky Cabrera is 5 of 8 with thee runs scored and four walks … Cody Ransom is 3 of 7 with three doubles and three runs scored.
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Pete why do you write things like this. Baseball is a funny game where given any sample size, someone can be made to look amazing, or terrible. you should introduce some standards to the stats that you report. always go by the last 10 or 20 games, not this cherry picked meaningless streaks that players go on.
and you should take a-rod to happy birthday indian. its lower eat side but it will be hilarious, trust me.
Cash is King July 27th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
“Kay: If they accused me of doing something like that, I would have charged the podium”
Minaya would’ve kicked his butt.
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Minaya and Kay under the O’Neill banner!
Isn’t the PR guy for the Mets – Jay Horowitz, one of the most respected guys in baseball?
How can all the public statements by this organization be so bad?
Good for Vick. This is America. The man paid his dues, time to move on.
Rubin being interviewed on SNY
“Kay: If they accused me of doing something like that, I would have charged the podium”
I would consider giving up a playoff ticket to actually witness that.
And if Kay ever attacked me, I’d take him out with a squeeze bottle of Heinz.
I am convinced that this was Omar’s doing. The Wilpons did not put him up to him.
Having said that, he’s not vindictive, just plain stupid. He had no idea that this remark, while seemingly innocent to him, would be so damaging.
He has no pulse on public speaking nor public matters.
““Kay: If they accused me of doing something like that, I would have charged the podium”
Minaya would’ve kicked his butt.”
I would take Kay in a head butting contest.
“Good for Vick. This is America. The man paid his dues, time to move on.”
I agree. I believe in second chances.
Adam Rubin could make a fortune from this. He just went from Adam Who? to Adam “the guy Omar Minaya threw under the bus” Rubin, next on our show.
People need to remember that Arod was a good if not great playoff performer up to the last 3-4 games with the Red Sox in 2004. In the playoffs, these hitters aren’t facing chopped liver and people ought to look at some of the WS stats of Yogi, Joe D, Willie and many others in which sometimes they played well and there were times when they didn’t hit well.
“And anyone that knows anything about the press knows that the press will protect their own, too.”
Often in politics they actually don’t. It’s quite easy to shift the coverage from it’s substance to a meta-story about coverage.
It’s done all of the time.
But it wasn’t going to work here. Not with the mets being so inept and with their team being so bad. Not with Bernazard’s track record and the scope of how embarrassing this incident has been with Bernazard taking off his shirt and losing it with minor leaguers.
And ultimately not with Omar being the front man for the spin. He has none of the skills needed to pull this off.
Kay vs. Minaya in a sumo-wrestling contest
This reporter may end up losing his job.
Rubin might be done as the Mets beatwriter as nobody will talk to him now.
Can Rubin sue the Mets?
“The beat writers are all chipping in and taking him out for dinner tonight after the game. ”
You aren’t seriuos are you Pete?
“Adam Rubin could make a fortune from this. He just went from Adam Who? to Adam “the guy Omar Minaya threw under the bus” Rubin, next on our show.”
Very true. Most people probably didn’t even know who this guy was.
Kay looks like a man who has a mean head-but.
I would love to get Duscherer if the cost is just a modest prospect. The A’s obviously do not see him as a part of their future but he has had a ton of success in the past and seems to be doing well in his rehab.
Right now it’s a little unclear whether the Yankees are looking for a reliever or a starter, and Duscherer could fit either bill. If he doesn’t work out, well…it’s not like we’re giving up Montero or Jackson.
Laura – Happy Birthday, Alex! Now let me see some HRs!
July 27th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
“Good for Vick. This is America. The man paid his dues, time to move on.”
I agree. I believe in second chances.
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Makes no difference. The guy was a jerk before the dog fighting issues. He also has worse quarterbacking skills than any QB since Marlon Briscoe.
Now I understand why Pete takes subtle Arod shots in the blog.
He’s pulling a Rubin! Pete wants the Yankee 3rd base job!
“This reporter may end up losing his job.”
We live in a very litigious society; no doubt he’ll sue if that happens.
I started reading that review in the NYT about the books and had to stop because I wanted to vomit. But I’ll read Neyer’s article since a couple of common sense folks are saying its a must read.
“Makes no difference. The guy was a jerk before the dog fighting issues. He also has worse quarterbacking skills than any QB since Marlon Briscoe.”
I don’t follow football so I can’t comment on his skills. I was commenting on him being able to try and get another job in the field. Whether he’s good at it or not makes no difference. He should at least be given the opportunity to try. Now that being said, I doubt that anyone will take him, but at least he can’t say that he was banned.
If A-Rod reads the blog, you should be careful, Pete.
Adam Rubin as already mentally written Chapter One of his Oman Minaya tell-all as he listens to this press conference
Kay is all kinds of fired up!
I love how Minaya defends Bernazard’s work in the farm system when the Mets AA and AAA teams are both 20 games under .500 and the Mets’ best prospect from the last 3-4 years has been Pelfrey.
Clare,
He’s doing great. He’s hitting .361 with 16 RBI, 10 runs scored and a 1.011 OPS with the Power.
Here is his scouting report on Manny Banuelos, who he faced last night.
Best off speed stuff of any pitcher he has faced. Great changeup and his breaking ball was nasty.
Fastball was ok. Was mostly at 90-91 last night but it was his changeup that really impressed him.
That’s a good thing because if an 18 year has a great changeup, he’s a fast mover through a farm system.
“He’s pulling a Rubin! Pete wants the Yankee 3rd base job!”
Judging from the photos of Pete that we’ve seen, he’s fighting a lost cause.
Adam Rubin is going to pull a Selena Roberts, he ain’t taking this lying down.
Minaya is great fodder for Saturday Night Live.
The Wilpons should be embarrassed. “Iron Mike” Tyson has got Minaya beat as a public speaker by miles.
AJ let’s bury tampa and get this road trip of on the right foot. LETS GO YANKEES!!!
I feel bad for Rubin. I mean he’s a journalist he did a story this isn’t his fault, to say he covered the story in order to get a job is insane.
Minaya should be gone and I hope Rubin doesn’t lose his job.
3 words GB7: wild cat offense
Don’t forget that Omar/Benezzard developed studs like Daniel Murphy, Nick Evans, John Niese, Joe Smith, Carlos Gomez etc.
To be completely honest here, unless Rubin knows there’s irrefutable proof that Omar’s allegations are correct, I’d expect Rubin to seek legal action against the Mets.
We’ll probably be able to learn something from what Rubin does or does not do here.
I wonder how awkward it has to be for Rubin to go from behind the microphone to suddenly in front of it…
I hope the Yanks call up or trade for another OF before the day comes (which if the past is future will be soon) that Damon sits, because I’m not looking forward to Swisher in LF and Hinske in RF.
GB7-
“Makes no difference. The guy was a jerk before the dog fighting issues. He also has worse quarterbacking skills than any QB since Marlon Briscoe.”
If any team hires Vick it should be as a running back, and before they hire him they should test his downfield speed against a dozen unfed, ravenous pit bulls!!
“Here is his scouting report on Manny Banuelos, who he faced last night.
Best off speed stuff of any pitcher he has faced. Great changeup and his breaking ball was nasty.
Fastball was ok. Was mostly at 90-91 last night but it was his changeup that really impressed him.
That’s a good thing because if an 18 year has a great changeup, he’s a fast mover through a farm system.”
SJ44,
Thanks for the scouting report as Manny might be having a little stamina issue right now as he approaches 100 innings as an 18 year old.
Our team’s offense is in great shape, though we could use a backup CF. Jackson seems the obvious move to split time with Melky, especially considering that he’ll most likely be a September call-up anyway. If not, one would hope that Rios or maybe even a Scott Hairston type is available cheaply.
The starting rotation is in great shape, despite what many may believe. All of our starters have turned in superb performances lately, including Joba and Pettitte (if you ignore his inherited runners that scored). Mitre may make for a weak back end of the rotation, but he can easily be replaced by Aceves and, if that doesn’t work, there’s no reason Phil Hughes can’t be stretched out into the rotation in time for the end of August. It’s a move we’d rather not have to make, but not one that is impossible to make.
All things seem to be working well for the Yankees right now and there is little indication that there’s any sort of slide in the near future. This team is in first to stay.
I have to say, and I’ll choose my words carefully here….
I understand english is not Minaya’s first language but holy crap could he get out one sentence without stuttering or stumbling over his words?
Just an awful awful public speaker. Painful to listen to.
Not only does he sound uneducated, he sounds clearly over his head. Saying the same thing over and over.
The crazy thing is he’s the GM of a major league team. And this isn’t his first GM job.
This is seperate from the whole Adam Rubin disaster.
I just felt for Rubin when he said plaintively, “How am I going to cover this team?”
“Rubin might be done as the Mets beatwriter as nobody will talk to him now.”
There was absolutely no reason why the mets needed a press conference to announce this firing.
All a press conference would do would draw more attention to the embarrassment that Bernazard has become.
It’s pretty clear now why they wanted to go through with the press conference. They wanted the attention so they could throw Rubin under the bus and make that the story.
What a buffoonishly run business.
“I feel bad for Rubin. I mean he’s a journalist he did a story this isn’t his fault, to say he covered the story in order to get a job is insane.
Minaya should be gone and I hope Rubin doesn’t lose his job.”
I know that Minaya isn’t popular, but let’s now assume that there might not be some truth to what Minaya implied. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but there are usually two sides to such stories.
The worst part is that the guy can’t cover the Mets now, which actually might be a good thing for Rubin.
Patrick is just sounds like another shot at A Rod
Miggs: Someone else mentioned shock that Minaya didn’t read from a prepared statement. I kind of agree with this.
SJ and GB: The best option now would seem to be to shut Banuelos down, or at least give him a breather, wouldn’t it? He is only 18, after all.
What’s so impressive about Manny and Montero is, these kids are basically HS seniors in age competing as pros in pro leagues. That’s pretty tough to do.
In Montero’s case, he’s doing it 2 steps away from the majors, which is amazing.
SJ44
July 27th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Clare,
He’s doing great. He’s hitting .361 with 16 RBI, 10 runs scored and a 1.011 OPS with the Power.
Here is his scouting report on Manny Banuelos, who he faced last night.
Best off speed stuff of any pitcher he has faced. Great changeup and his breaking ball was nasty.
Fastball was ok. Was mostly at 90-91 last night but it was his changeup that really impressed him.
That’s a good thing because if an 18 year has a great changeup, he’s a fast mover through a farm system.
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Banuelos’ fastball was much better early this season, but, he should be reaching his innings limits. He’s about the size of Ron Guidry in ‘77-’78, so hopefully, at age 18, he has a growth spurt coming. He lost his chance to ge the win last night when he hit Tony S. in the foot just before giving up the homer. He’s quite a pitcher, though. Your nephew had another very good game. Congrats to him, SJ. Just don’t tell Torre Tyson I said that.
miggs -
Minaya clearly was not prepared, nor was he 100% okay with firing Bernarzard. If he was committed to that decision, he would have been able to get the words out. He made it clear it was HR who recommended this and I infer from his inability to find the right words to describe what was going on that he doesn’t agree with this and is uncomfortable with it. He should not have done the press conference under those circumstances.
It had nothing to with with English. We in NY area have enough experience with accented English to not even give it a second thought.
What would the basis for “legal action” be? His best course of action would be to put a sock in it. Minaya looks terrible as it is. No sense in risking the prospect that you’ll look bad, yourself. As long as Omar continues to play Nero, Rubin should sit tight.
Rubin is beside himself.
He’s wondering how he can cover the team now.
Applebees rocks!
“What would the basis for “legal action” be?”
If the Daily News cans him, he can sue Minaya for slander and the Daily News for wrongful termination.
Yankee Trader
July 27th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
GB7-
“Makes no difference. The guy was a jerk before the dog fighting issues. He also has worse quarterbacking skills than any QB since Marlon Briscoe.”
If any team hires Vick it should be as a running back, and before they hire him they should test his downfield speed against a dozen unfed, ravenous pit bulls
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Strap about 20 pounds of fresh meat to his back and give him a 15 yard head start.
Omar should do his entire press conference (assuming he still has a job) entirely in Spanish.
Go with the old, “No speaka English.”
“I hope the Yanks call up or trade for another OF before the day comes (which if the past is future will be soon) that Damon sits, because I’m not looking forward to Swisher in LF and Hinske in RF. ”
Ugh didn’t even think of that.
Honestly, I think it is imperative that the Yankees either call up Austin Jackson or acquire another CF.
Melky cannot start in center every day and when Damon has his weekly rest day (or two) the Yanks can’t afford to have Hinske and Swisher out there at the same time.
I think if Jackson were called up he’d have plenty of opportunities to play. Damon usually sits once a week or more. Melky isn’t suited to playing every day. I could see Jackson getting 3-4 starts a week and several defensive replacement appearances.
only in Mets bizarro world:
Tues: Rubin is fired from Daily News.
Weds: Omar is fired as Mets GM. (for hiring Angel Berroa)
Thurs: Adam Rubin is hired as Mets GM.
Friday: Angel Berroa is released.
Saturday: Angel Berroa is hired by the Daily News.
I don’t know any 19 year old high schoolers.
Montero is super young to be in AA but there’s no need to exaggerate it.
When I was 19 I was a sophomore in college.
Holy crap Omar just sealed his own fate.
Nice job.
I don’t think anything he’d have against Minaya is actionable. It’s non-specific. I think it’s jumping the gun to think that he’ll be fired by DN. If that happens, he can think about his options.
I don’t think anything he’d have against Minaya is actionable. It’s non-specific. I think it’s jumping the gun to think that he’ll be fired by DN. If that happens, he can think about his options.
If any team hires Vick it should be as a running back, and before they hire him they should test his downfield speed against a dozen unfed, ravenous pit bulls
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Strap about 20 pounds of fresh meat to his back and give him a 15 yard head start.
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I’m still LMAO!!!
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 27th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Miggs: Someone else mentioned shock that Minaya didn’t read from a prepared statement. I kind of agree with this.
SJ and GB: The best option now would seem to be to shut Banuelos down, or at least give him a breather, wouldn’t it? He is only 18, after all.
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Definately needs to be shut down soon. He’ll be at 100 innings during his next start and only had 42 last year in his debut.
“I don’t know any 19 year old high schoolers.
Montero is super young to be in AA but there’s no need to exaggerate it.
When I was 19 I was a sophomore in college.”
Corban Joseph was 19 going on 20 when he was drafted by the Yankees last year. Also, the Yankees drafted and signed a 19 year old high school pitcher this year. And there others besides those two.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=543377
The Mets: is this rock bottom? I mean, seriously, this is almost surreal. What the hell are they thinking?
I thought rock bottom was when they made Willie fly out to the west coast, and then fired him at 3:30 in the morning (what scumbags).
Congrats, losers, you’ve outdone yourselves.
“I don’t think anything he’d have against Minaya is actionable.”
I’m no lawyer so I don’t know, but that doesn’t mean that Rubin wouldn’t try.
Daily news Loves this.
All Rubin did was test the waters, ask some questions.
Robbie Cano career .429 hitter against shields in 21 abs
Johnny Damon .333 in 18 abs
Jeter .385 in 26 abs
Godzilla .438 in 18 abs
Posada .200 in 15 abs
melky .267 in 15 abs
arod .231 in 13 abs
swish .167 in 6 abs
tex .077 in 13 abs
9 hrs combined, with godzilla hitting 3, damon 2, and cano, arod, swish, and jeter each have 1.
There are 18 and 19 year olds in HS in South Florida Patrick.
In fact, most of the HS football teams are filled with kids closer to 19 than 18 in their senior years of HS.
Thanks for the correction Cash.
19 year old high schoolers? Must be 5th year seniors.
According to Rubin, he was just asking generally how to get into baseball. Not that he was angling for any specific job. Said he had conversations with Jeff, but never really had any meetings to go in depth.
What a mess
Thanks SJ44, Cash showed me some examples as well.
Montero is certainly impressive.
Harang has been terrible for a year and a half now and will make $14 mil next year…Arroyo(Francesca’s mancrush)has an era of almost 6 over the last season and a half and will make $12mil….i wouldn’t want any part of either of ‘em and i’m sure Cash doesn’t either
“Daily news Loves this.”
They may. My issue is that what Omar did makes it seem like instead of doing his job, Adam Rubin is spending his time on the Daily News’ dime trying to find another job. Most employers wouldn’t be thrilled with this, if they believed it. I doubt that the DN will fire Rubin, but I don’t know how he can cover the Mets after this.
Wow Minaya is a real d-bag
This could hurt Rubin’s career. I feel bad for the guy, he does a good job by breaking the Bernazard story then gets burned because the Mets are acting like petulant children.
Texas, Florida, Alabama are known for having 19 year old athletes. Many that show athleticism in junior high are held back a year to enhance their skills and improve their scholarship chances. It’s not just a “southern thing” either.
Isin’t SJ a lawyer? He probably knows how Rubin can go about this.
So SJ who in your opinion is closest to the big club?
Are we talking Jackson & Montero in 2011? What about pitching? Kennedy is recovering from the aneurysm – has his stock dropped (outside of the injury)?
champ809,
Harang has a lot of talent and has actually pitched better than the numbers show this year. 4.09 FIP, not bad.
He also eats a ton of innings, would be pretty much perfect in the Yankee rotation.
Correction – Harang has a 4.05 FIP
Actually GB7 question is for you too since you seem to have your finger on the ML system…
I’ve known 19 y/o high schoolers, mostly people that miss the cut off date or are held back at a young age for whatever reason.
The Daily News won’t can Rubin, they know the legal ramifications of doing so
However, this ruins Rubin. He won’t be able to be taken seriously again. How can he cover the team after accusations like that? People resign in situations like this.
Banuelos will be shut down soon just because of the value he has to the organization but as far as the innings are concerned he’s been pitching professionally in Mexico since he was 15-16 so he’s thrown some innings…i would guess the Yanks cap him at 115-120…they may begin to limit him to 3 inning starts from here on out…
Justin Duchscherer would be a nice trade for the yanks. The A’s are not looking for much in return. He is someone you can put in triple a for pitching depth and let him finish rehabbing and then you use him if Joba hits his innings limit in late august.
Harang hasn’t been the same since he went about 8 innings back in May and came back two nights later and threw 63 pitches in an extra inning loss.
Happy Birthday A-Rod!
Let’s goooo Yankees!
I don’t see Rubin having any legal action against the Mets.
If Rubin can’t cover the team, he can be re-assigned to another beat.
What Omar did was despicable. However, he didn’t do anything that would be expose the Mets to a lawsuit they could lose.
SJ44,
Thanks for the report on your nephew and his scouting report on Manny.
I was wondering about your take on something Pete said yesterday. If Wang has to undergo shoulder surgery that keeps him out until midseason next year, do you think there’s any chance the Yankees non-tender him over the winter? My uninformed guess is that there’s no way they let him go unless they’re absolutely sure his career is over, and there’s no way to know that until the rehab is done. What do you think?
“However, this ruins Rubin. He won’t be able to be taken seriously again. How can he cover the team after accusations like that? People resign in situations like this.”
Can we get someone to accuse Mike Lupica of something so that he can resign?
“I don’t see Rubin having any legal action against the Mets.”
Didn’t he slander him or libel him? I never get those two straight.
“I don’t see Rubin having any legal action against the Mets.
If Rubin can’t cover the team, he can be re-assigned to another beat.
What Omar did was despicable. However, he didn’t do anything that would be expose the Mets to a lawsuit they could lose.”
The NY media will keep after Omar until they get him out of town.
No kidding – the little shrimp fancies himself a political expert now, too.
Clare,
I think there is a possibility the Yankees could non-tender Wang if he is going to miss most, or all of next season because of shoulder surgery.
I couldn’t put odds on it right now but, its a possibility.
Way to make me the secondary story, Omar.
Agree – Omar has the bullseye squarely on him now
I’d love to hear Pete’s reaction to the presser snafu.
“I’d love to hear Pete’s reaction to the presser snafu.”
What do you think, the media war wagons have circled Omar.
I think based on Wang’s history with the Yanks, there’s no way they non-tender him. Hell, they invested about $3m in Andrew Brackman.
L to the 2nd
July 27th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Actually GB7 question is for you too since you seem to have your finger on the ML system…
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By need, Jackson would be my guess, but, Montero is like years ahead of any minor leaguer I’ve seen with a bat. Kennedy won’t be in NY before next year. I’ve only seen Jackson and Montero on TV (spring training) or MILB.TV. I saw about 10 of Montero’s Tampa FSL games this year. Beyond that, this year, I’d only be going on numbers. The minor leaguers that I see are some of the Tampa games and a lot of the Charleston games, though, not as many as I’d like. I do listen to their games when not there, though.
“I’d love to hear Pete’s reaction to the presser snafu.”
I could be wrong, but I’d think he’d side with Rubin. Just a hunch.
He didn’t slander Rubin under the legal definition of slander.
He did a rotten thing but not an actionable thing under the legal defnition of slander, IMO.
Minaya will take his shirt off and challenge Adam Rubin in front of CitiField on Wednesday. Tickets now on sale.
Wow. So the Omar presser was worse than the one he explained Randolph’s firing?
Rosenthal went on Dan Patrick today. Took the rap for the rumor. He said that there were enough people close to the situation for him to run with the story. Cliff Lee and Loney were the principals, but the other players involved had been discussed internally. Said that Red Sox are in on Halladay, Lee, and A-Gonz because that’s how they roll.
Evan and Joe on WFAN have now concluded (and rightly so) that Mets ownership coordinated Omar’s inept attack on Adam Rubin.
Omar is done if this is the story that emerges. Jeff Wilpon is going to emerge from this with his own name scorched. And as is the mets way, he’ll look to throw the other guy under the bus rather than bear the brunt of the responsibility.
The way they got rid of Willie spoke volumes for the rot inside of that organization.
And that rot is now going to consume one person after another.
“Today seems like beginning of the end for Minaya.”
That’s not going to be very comforting to Mets fans, who know that this loser should have been out of there at least 1.5 years ago.
“Minaya will take his shirt off and challenge Adam Rubin in front of CitiField on Wednesday. Tickets now on sale.”
That would draw more people than the Mets game.
“UPDATE, 5:08 p.m.: The first place Yankees will be secondary news tomorrow with the bizarre happenings in Queens. Omar Minaya accused the News beat writer of bringing down Tony Bernazard because he wanted his job. Today seems like beginning of the end for Minaya.”
There you go.
When did the Mets hire Mushmouth as GM?
I had heard the rumblings that Montero may eventually become too big physically to be a good defensive catcher. If true, do you groom him for a corner OF spot?
>UPDATE, 5:08 p.m.: The first place Yankees will be secondary
>news tomorrow with the bizarre happenings in Queens. Omar
>Minaya accused the News beat writer of bringing down Tony
>Bernazard because he wanted his job. Today seems like
>beginning of the end for Minaya.
Are the Mets going to eat his extension?
Probably yes. HIYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Rubin can’t do anything because this is likely true. He probably was lobbying for the job.
How soon before the Daily News pulls the plug on their show on SNY?
The Mets are better than professional wrestling…
I bet all the writers stick together and destroy Omar tomorrow and protect Rubin. Even the competing writers know he crossed the line.
“Harang hasn’t been the same since he went about 8 innings back in May and came back two nights later and threw 63 pitches in an extra inning loss.”
Hahahaha there’s Dusty Baker for you. I feel bad for Harang but that right there is hilarious.
Anyways, SJ44 brought up the possibility of Harang being injured but he’s thrown 127 innings this year and his average fastball velocity exactly matches his career average FB velo.
Those two factors tell me that he most likely is not injured. Also, although his ERA is high his FIP and BABIP show that he’s had a bit of bad luck this year.
Harang has the talent and while he won’t be a great SP in the AL east he could eat a ton of innings and be a solid back of the rotation guy.
on second thought, ci ci’s pizza would be better pete.i dont know, sounds a little more swanky…/Hey Hokiehill, no i dont think i am THAT fan.lol. no matter what i always cheer my team on, and every single player, you should hear me when the yanks go up to bat..”YEA ROBBIE..RISP DONT MEAN A THING”… i just harbor an internal dislike for certain player personalities for various reasons. ::notice the refrence to my heart not an outward boo. i just dont care for the guy, thats all.=) but good idea with bringing madonna for the senior citizens discount
This is the definition of slander: the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person’s reputation.
I think that Rubin can argue that Omar’s statements damaged his reputation. It’s a weak case, but in this country, people have won with less.
If the Wilpons were so damaged by Madoff as we keep hearing, then sell the team. At this rate it’s addition by subtraction for everyone.
Hey, Mark Cuban may still be in the market…
SJ, How many spins through the league has it been for Tony ??? If it’s been twice he may get bumped up soon with the numbers he’s posted and the baseball IQ he’s displayed it may happen soon….
Mets need to bring in Bill James or Larry Luchino or someone who knows how to build a franchise.
ay dios mios what a mess in Mets land.
Could you imagine if Minaya were the Yankees GM. Randy l would be waiting out of Yankee stadium with a sniper’s rifle.
“I had heard the rumblings that Montero may eventually become too big physically to be a good defensive catcher.”
You probably heard that here. LOL!
Pete new poll.
What would you do if Tony Bernazard challenged you to a fight?
A.Fight Him
B.Back Off
C.Tell Him To Put His Shirt Back On.
D.Choices A & C
over the last year and a half Harang is 11-28 with 4.6 era he’s thrown 310 innings and given up 360 hits and 54 homers…at a cost of 14mil per year….you want that balls would be flying out of the new stadium like missiles…face it he ain’t the same pitcher from ‘06-’07 and it ain’t the team…Cueto and Volquez have been very good to great…Duchscherer has pitched to an era under 3.00 in that same time is versatile(SP/RP) and is owed 1.3 mil this year and an option for under 4 mil next year….other than the injury risk(admittedly big risk) you tell me who you want…obtw Duchs doesn’t give up the long ball…
“He probably was lobbying for the job.”
Yeah, because you can go from beat writer to V.P. of Player Development just like that.
Couldn’t agree more with that Minaya update–he is toast after the season ends
SNY is the official home of the Mets and their primary sponsor is the Daily News.
Whose side will they take?
Hey GB7, I was just looking at Harang’s game log and didn’t see what you are talking about. All of his appearances have been starts and 5-7 days apart. Did this happen last year or are you thinking of another pitcher?
Memo to Fred & Jeff (a/k/a Moe & Larry):
Get John Hart in here stat.
A.Fight Him
L to the 2nd
July 27th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
I had heard the rumblings that Montero may eventually become too big physically to be a good defensive catcher. If true, do you groom him for a corner OF spot?
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Montero isn’t as big as Mauer or Wieters and about the same size as Carlton Fisk was (he lasted 23 years). Montero works hard on his defense and that’s what he wants to do. He could be an emerceny outfielder, but, he doesn’t have that kind od footspeed. On the other hand, Austin Romine is a very good candidate as a corner infielder/outfielder. He has the footspeed.
Good point SJ – if I were NYDN I’d take a walk…
Rubin said that he only spoke with Jeff Wilpon about an FO job.
Meaning most likely this attack was from above Omar.
Meet The Mets, What A Mess
Step right up and place your bets
Trade your kiddies beat your wife
Guaranteed to create team strife
Because the Mets are really bootin some balls
Cant’ seem to knock one over the wall
East side, West side everyone’s wearin a frown
Omar and the Wilpons are the joke of this town
champ,
Duchscherer is on the DL and is a career reliever. Last year was his first time starting.
“What would you do if Tony Bernazard challenged you to a fight?
A.Fight Him
B.Back Off
C.Tell Him To Put His Shirt Back On.
D.Choices A & C”
Actually, my choice would be E. Let Shelley Duncan fight him.
We have our version of Bernazzard in Randy Levine.
I remember Chris Russo saying after we fired Torre
“Yankee fans.. how do you feel that the face of your franchise now is Randy Levine?”
Rubin, for me, holds all the credibility cards here.
GB – interesting, although I wonder if they make a run @ Mauer in 2 years (hip hip Jorge just about done) & change their strategery. That may be too enticing to pass up.
I tend to believe Omar… that Rubin was lobbying for the job.
C- Definitely
Do you think that the Mets will bring Omar on their next road trip and fire him at 3am?
That would be so special if it actually happened.
Even if Rubin was lobbying or had an axe to grind, what Omar did was a bozo no-no — way over the line.
My first inclination is to believe Rubin, but I am biased. I don’t know either Omar or Rubin personally, so it’d be wrong of me to assume anything.
It’s funny… Omar did this to deflect attention away from him and make Rubin look bad.
But in the process, he looks worst of all. He brought down Rubin, but he brought himself and the organization down with him.
It was not a net gain, it was a net loss.
I’m not often on the side of the press, but what Omar did here was not just wrong, it was stupid.
By attacking the reporter, he was essentially saying that they were only firing the guy because of the publicity, essentially admitting that bad behavior is perfectly acceptable as long as it stays out of the paper. If he can’t see that he only makes the team look worse with that concession there’s no hope for him.
If the story was wrong, they shouldn’t have fired the guy. If the story was right, they should have fired him based on his behavior, not based on the fact it was printed in the newspaper. Either way, attacking Rubin in this instance only makes the Mets look bad.
Ummm….errr….ummmm…HR was investigating…the…ummm…allegations…that…err…Tony Bernazard was acting inappropriately. What they found…err….well, I mean, you know…ummmm…interpersonal issues did exist….it’s true, there were…ummmm….interpersonal issues. That said, I…ummm…scuffled…you know what I mean….errrrr…I scuffled because Adam Rubin…it’s all his fault.
Any…ummm…questions?
GMz
July 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
We have our version of Bernazzard in Randy Levine.
I remember Chris Russo saying after we fired Torre
“Yankee fans.. how do you feel that the face of your franchise now is Randy Levine?”
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Russo is an idiot, I dont recall any stories of Levine taking off his shirt and challenging minor league players to fight.
Given the state of the newspaper industry, being a reporter right now must be one of the more unstable sources of employment in the country.
What journalists hasn’t at least wondered about his employment and the potential need to switch jobs and enter a new industry?
The idea that the Mets tried to shoe horn something Rubin said related to entering a different industry into calling into question what Bernazard did is ridiculous.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 27th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Hey GB7, I was just looking at Harang’s game log and didn’t see what you are talking about. All of his appearances have been starts and 5-7 days apart. Did this happen last year or are you thinking of another pitcher?
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My screwup. That was Micah Owings.
Bronx Jeers – nice job.
Omar also knew that Rubin has no ground for a lawsuit. How can Rubin prove slander?
Chris Russo? Who is Chris Russo?
Bye everyone!!!
I am going to catch my firm softball team in action. The last time I cheered them on they swept their very first doubleheader. My cheerleading skills were requested for an appearance tonight as they try for a playoff spot.
Catch you all during gametime!
If the Yanks did end up acquiring Washburn from Seattle, what prospects would it take to acquire the soon to be free agent?
Miranda, Ryan Pope, Reggie Corona and a low A ball player???
I don’t see Cashman giving up the top tier prospects in any trade and especially not for Washburn.
“How can Rubin prove slander?”
That’s a question for his lawyer.
Don’t the Mets and the Daily News have a good relationship?
Francessa mentioned that the Post is aligned with the Yanks and the Daily News aligned with the Mets
Hell, SNY’s chief sponsor is the Daily News.
Talk about a bizarre pattern. It’s like the Mets sold out one of their own.
Any reporter that attacks or criticizes Omar Minaya is obviously looking to get his job…
The Mets, geez what can you say.
“My screwup. That was Micah Owings.”
Still, Dusty Baker, LOOOOOLLLL
the Harang game he’s referring to was an extra inning game they played i think it went 16 innings and Harang threw 3 or 4 innings in the game….Duchs is coming off the DL in a week and he threw for the Yanks and Brewers scouts last night and threw 2 perfect innings…bottom line he’s a much better option if he’s healthy than Harang is right now…much more cost effective from a salary standpoint, cost to procure standpoint and most importantly comparing the recent performance of the two players it’s no comparison…plainly put flyball pitchers who give up alot of hits and the new stadium is a bad bad bad combo
CB,
I agree. And even if Rubin was angling for that job (which I don’t belive) it’s beside the point. No one has challenged the accuracy of his reporting (as far as I know). Whatever his motivation was is not relevant to the issue at hand, which was Bernazard’s behavior.
Happiest person in the world? Tony Bernezzard. Now he can just quietly fade into the sunset.
The Wilpons have enough on their minds after being hoodwinked by Bernie Madoff and now this PR gaff.
Tough times in Flushing for some time to come.
Just to get back on the topic of the Yankees – any one else liking what A-Rod is doing team-wise and even fan-wise this year. He is really going out of his way to show that he is shedding his me-only tendancies.
It might be a product of his army of PR advisors, but it’s better than nothing!
Does anyone have the number for a good headhunter? I have interpersonal skills.
Let’s see Francesca make excuses for Omar now – what a paranoid jerk. Bernarzard brought himself down -and I am thrilled that Willie is out of there and with a good organization like the Brewers.
I’m not thrilled with the Yankees looking at relievers because they really need a starter. On the other hand, it’s ridiculous to think they should give up premium prospects for a Jarod Washburn. Forget Heath Bell – the Pads will ask for Joba or Hughes-led package and, if not them, then a package of too many of our top prospects. Plus, was Bell any good with the Mets? I’m honestly not sure. Even if he is, I would not ravage our farm system for him. I really am not a fan of Aceves in the rotation……..Yanks are in a bind. They just don’t have enough pitching or OF depth – they really need to make multiple deals.
Can’t wait to hear the Met fans call to the Schmoozer tonight…
I am a journalist myself. I write for my local high school paper.
I take Ruban’s side.
“Does anyone have the number for a good headhunter?”
Why did you leave your last job?
Last season Harang had a 63 pitch relief appearance 2 days after throwing over 100 pitches in a start.
Is that what you were talking about?
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008
“Last season Harang had a 63 pitch relief appearance 2 days after throwing over 100 pitches in a start.”
Really Dusty? Really? Wow.
I believe Rubin because Omar loves Bernazard and probably did not want to fire him. Rubin’s article that shed light on Bernazard’s acts kind of forced management’s hands because the media was pressuring them to fire Bernazard. Omar took shots at Rubin for basically getting his man fired.
Never attack the press – they’re very thin skinned.
That goes for all media. I saw Thomas Friedman LOSE IT once during the late 90s when someone reasonably criticized one of his books at a lecture.
Justin Duchscherer is the most logical choice, imo. He’s a free agent after this season, so the A’s won’t be looking to take Cashman to the cleaners (rumor has it a B-level prospect will get the deal done).
He could take Ace’s spot in the pen, and the Yanks could give Ace some starts down the stretch.
Tom in NJ that looks to be what GB7 was referring to.
There was also an incident this year where Owings threw 7 innings (90 pitches) and came back 4 days later to throw 81 pitches in an extra innings game. Not terrible but couldn’t have been good for his arm.
AJ – Do not put guys on base. They will all run wild.
Go right after Crawford and Upton. If you are going to walk guys, walk guys like Burrell who can’t run.
“Really Dusty? Really? Wow.”
Bahahaha did you expect anything else from Dusty?
One of the worst managers in the league.
Last season Harang had a 63 pitch relief appearance 2 days after throwing over 100 pitches in a start.
Is that what you were talking about?
that is the exact game in question…he took the 13th-16th innings because he was the last guy available-in fairness to Dusty- and the reat is history….let him go to Boston!
“Chris Russo? Who is Chris Russo?”
i’ll take coke-heads from Connecticut for $200
SJ44
July 27th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Another clueless post. He’s hit with RISP all year. Over half his HR’s have come late and have either tied or given the Yankees the lead.
Try hard this week to post at least one thing that makes sense. We can start with one and build from there.
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lmfao
just fell out nof my chair & onto the floor and spit my soda out all over my computer.
I am so excited about the trade deadline
Who will we get? Heath Bell? Duschcheser? Washburn? Halladay? Downs? Qualls? Snell? Zach Duke? Bannister?
I can hardly contain my excitement. Who knows who we will end up with? And it can happen any time too. We could acquire someone right now. Or maybe tomorrow morning when we wake up. Or maybe after the game (a yankee win)? Or maybe DURING game like the Marte/Nady trade.
So excited
“No one has challenged the accuracy of his reporting (as far as I know). ”
That’s the whole point. The mets want you to forget that the story was accurate. They want you to forget how embarrassing Bernazard was. And in the process they wanted to extract some cheap measure of revenge on the person who reported the truth.
Shift attention off of the substance of the story – and make the story about the coverage itself. Make it a story about how the story was written rather than its substance. Then in the process impugn the integrity of the person reporting the story so that the original entire event goes away as if it never happened.
The purpose of this is to try to make the public start questioning what can be believed and to get them to dismiss the facts at hand.
It is the height of cynacism. Especially here – because Omar basically said that the Mets own internal investigation by their “HR department” (i.e. not him…) corroborated most of what Rubin reported. Not everything – of course Minaya wants to insert incriminations – but enough so that Minaya fired his friend.
That the Mets fired Bernazard after sticking with him through so much controversy (i.e. stabbing willie in the back…) is all you need to know about the accuracy of the facts reported.
This is a classic spin technique from politics. It’s done all of the time.
Don’t dispute the facts when they are against you. Turn it into story about the story and take a general shot against the reporter’s credibility so that you don’t have to worry about the facts anymore.
The mets are a joke.
“Why did you leave your last job?”
Well, ummm….uhhhh…what I mean is, you know there was this guy…I don’t want to get into, you know, specifics, but…ummm…this guy, we’ll call him Adam Rubin…well, anyway, this guy was angling for my job…and, ummm, I’m not afraid to say I scuffled.
For those that aren’t completely absorbed in the Mets’ doings, anybody else nervous that the Rays or the Sox could get Cliff Lee or Victor Martinez? MLB Trade Rumors seems to be featuring the possibility.
Minaya would have been better off to borrow Bobby V’s disguise at his press conference.
It’s now official. The Mets have become a laughingstock.
“There was also an incident this year where Owings threw 7 innings (90 pitches) and came back 4 days later to throw 81 pitches in an extra innings game. Not terrible but couldn’t have been good for his arm.”
Yuck!
If I was a pitcher on a team Dusty Baker ran, I’d take out a huge insurance policy on my arm.
Arod is sure on fire & Damon or Swisher in CF, you can’t make this stuff up or can you
I don’t see what the big deal is. Omar just shed light on the fact that the reporter who was instrumental in getting Bernezzard fired by making these incidents public, had an agenda. He wanted this guy’s job.
Shouldn’t we blame Rubin for having the agenda and trying to get the guy fired? Omar just did what he had to. He couldn’t let Ruben go unscathed. He publicized this whole thing and made Omar fire his friend.
Tom in N.J.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Last season Harang had a 63 pitch relief appearance 2 days after throwing over 100 pitches in a start.
Is that what you were talking about?
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008
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I has wrong on the facts, but, still not that wrong. It was Owings that pitched 7 innings and 90 pitches against ‘Zona and on the 16th pitched 5.2 innings and 80+ pitches in relief. His ERA has gone from 3.95 to 5.35 since then. If I’m Cinncy or Owings, I’d be an outfielder next year. That’s too good a bat to waste.
Well played, Mr. Minaya.
the Mets traded Bell because Bell thought Rick Peterson was a nutjob and they didn’t get along just like they traded Kazmir because Al Leiter and John Franco thought he was a wise ass which is how Bernazard convinced the Wilpons to fire Peterson because at the time both trades blew up in their faces and Peterson was the deserved fall guy….having said that he did a hell of a job with Maine and Perez while he was here and neither has been the same since they canned him
Personally, I don’t see what Tony B did that was so bad! The Class A team he was talking too had numerous issues including a lack of hustle and wild parties from a mostly 18 yr old crew. (Maybe 19 LOL!) I’m sure Tony started fussing at them and they rebelled like teenagers do. So he took it up a notch like a lot of Coaches & high testosterone individuals do. Tony was sent there to make a point with these undisciplined kids.
That said, exposing this kind of banter to the general public was a misuse of trust shared with reporters. Kind of a do you beat your wife often kind of statement. Sure Tony B is a hot head but he is more of a drill Sargent than politican. He was called out by Rubin and I’m sure Minaya was livid.
It appears Minaya is in over his head. Then again Ozzie of CWS Manager fame could have said the same stuff and no one would care. But this is NY so everything is scrutinized. The Mets should have sent Tony on a 2 week vacation to South America to look at recruits or something. Their whole organization is corrupt from the Wilpons down. But that could probably be said about a lot of these clubs.
Wave Your Hat
July 27th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
For those that aren’t completely absorbed in the Mets’ doings, anybody else nervous that the Rays or the Sox could get Cliff Lee or Victor Martinez? MLB Trade Rumors seems to be featuring the possibility.
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Deathly afraid. Which is why I was so ecstatic when it looked like the Dodgers were going to get them.
People can downplay it, but the Rays/Sox getting BOTH of them can turn this race upside down. It sucks because it looks like if they go anywhere, it will be to one of those teams.
“anybody else nervous that the Rays or the Sox could get Cliff Lee or Victor Martinez? MLB Trade Rumors seems to be featuring the possibility.”
Do you believe the Red Sox will go into next year with Beckett, Lester, and three huge question marks in their rotation?
Wakefield is 43 next year and will invariably wind up on the DL at some point. Dice-K is a huge unknown going into next year.
There’s no way they can trade for Martinez unless they move Buchholz and Bard plus others.
I don’t see them taking that big a chance with their rotation next year.
“The Yankees have won eight of their last nine series. They have won 22 series this season, two fewer than all of last season”
+++++ Very tellng, kind of gives you an idea of where the team stands this season compared to what happened last year.
“For those that aren’t completely absorbed in the Mets’ doings, anybody else nervous that the Rays or the Sox could get Cliff Lee or Victor Martinez? MLB Trade Rumors seems to be featuring the possibility.”
More afraid of that then I am them getting Halladay.
Whoever gets those 2 would be so scary. An ace and clean-up hitter, both in their prime, added to what already is practically a playoff team.
Journalism was my minor in college, and this was Rule #1 according to my favorite professor:
Never pick a fight with a man who buys his ink by the barrel.
Omar Minaya, you just dug your own grave.
Wait. So it’s Rubin’s fault that this clown got fired?
How about those kinds of things shouldn’t have even happened. They’re fireable offenses and the fact that it took sunshine reporting for it to happen is an indictment of the mets and how they’re run.
How can they expect to win anything when they’re a bad organization from top to bottom?
Neither Lee nor Halladay are going anywhere unless the price starts dropping.. and fast.
Tom in N.J.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Last season Harang had a 63 pitch relief appearance 2 days after throwing over 100 pitches in a start.
Is that what you were talking about?
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008
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My real mistake was mixing two seperate incidents together, one year apart. I remember that set of games of Harang’s and wondering what was going through Baker’s mind. I saw visions of Kerry Wood and Mark Prior. Nearly identical circumstances with Owings this year.
More afraid of the Sux/Rays getting Lee or Halladay rather than V-Mart.
A Beckett/Lester/Lee combo in October will be deadly.
and if the Yankees played .500 ball against the Sox they would be six games up
Even if the Nationals are crushing the Brewers tonight, I’ll be splitting a gut in the Brewers dugout laughing at Minaya and Bernazard.
joeman
July 27th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Arod is sure on fire & Damon or Swisher in CF, you can’t make this stuff up or can you
LOL! ARod is hitting .320 for the last 30 days according to Yahoo FBB. Leave him alone. But I grimmace at the thought of Damon or Swisher on any routine flyball let alone from CF. Maybe ARod can play CF! LOL!
Cliff Lee is no Halladay. Don’t fool yourselves.
CB,
That’s a great explanation of how it works. And, withough getting into politics, I can think of several times in the recent past where that tactic has worked in the political arena.
I think it’s clear it’s not going to work here, but I think it’s an interesting sociological issue regarding when and how that type of distraction works, and when it doesn’t.
You’ve aready said that one of the reasons it didn’t work was that Minaya was so inept. Do you have any more thoughts on this case in particular, or in general why this tactic backfires?
remember a few years ago Jeter was mention as a CF ( would be the best OFer they have)
RT @BryanHoch MLB Fanhouse reports #Yankees and #Reds working on Bronson Arroyo trade: http://kgg2r.tk
Why don’t we get in on V-Mart? He can be our catcher of the future and our DH next year.
This year, he can play the outfield or something.
CB, I’m not sure I understand why Minaya is done if the Wilpons had him accuse Rubin of angling for Bernarzard’s job…..If they want Omar gone, why would they bother?
Do you mean done in the sense that the press and fans will run him out of town? Jeff Wilpon is nothing but a sniveling little toady who was born under a lucky star – he’s the Mets version of Hank Steinbrenner, except Jeff doesn’t have a more capable brother to stifle him. No one cared when Willie was fired the way he was because the media didn’t like Willie, but that was despicable. I wonder if the media will now come around as to the snakes running the organization? Adam Rubin, if he’s fired by the News, will get another job with another paper – even if it’s not covering the Mets..and I hope so, because all he did was do his job.
Laura, slander and libel are the same thing except libel is the printed word and slander the spoken. You can think of it like this: libel/library. If you see court documents, they have liber numbers, which are the same as page #s. The root of these words “libe” has to do with books/printed words.
Sevrx, you have heard of Jesus Montero, right?
“MLB Fanhouse reports #Yankees and #Reds working on Bronson Arroyo trade”
LOL
This is Cashman’s solution to the rotation?
LOL
Mike Francessa works for MLB Fan House?
That would be a stupid trade to get Arroyo. The guy can’t even get NL hitters out right now.
“RT @BryanHoch MLB Fanhouse reports #Yankees and #Reds working on Bronson Arroyo trade”
You sure it was Bryan Hoch and not Francessa?
Francessa wants Arroyo almost as bad as Brandon wants Jonathan Sanchez.
Arroyo is even worse than Mitre AND he is signed for next year as well
What would be the point of this trade?
Oh no, not Bronson Arroyo – Francesca has made me dislike him intensely,lol. Just kidding, but is he any good?
Yankees And Reds Talking Arroyo Trade
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 27 at 5:00pm CST]
The Yankees and Reds are sersiously discussing a Bronson Arroyo trade, according to Jeff Fletcher of AOL FanHouse. One of Fletcher’s sources says the possible deal “will get done,” though the two clubs haven’t determined how much of the $4MM remaining on Arroyo’s contract the Reds will pay. Arroyo will make $11MM next season and the same amount in 2011 if his team doesn’t buy him out for $2MM.
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/0.....royo-deal/
Yay Bronson Arroyo or as Arod said “Brandon Arroyo”. Diet Coke will be thrilled.
I’m hoping Cashman is just using the Reds as leverage to get Halladay
There is no way we can seriously be interested in Arroyo.
I hate Bronson Arroyo ever since the slap play
Rumors will continue to be just that ….. rumors until the self imposed deadline by the Jays GM has passed and even then he’s likely to extend it right up to the Friday deadline.
Absolutely no rumors coming out of the Yankees camp which is no surprise.
“and if the Yankees played .500 ball against the Sox they would be six games up”
They’d actually be 10 1/2 up, Joeman!
I know, kills me too.
Victor Martinez would really help the Rays.
Lee would help the Rays or the Sox.
Over a year and 2 months, would anybody really be surprised if Lee outpitched Halladay, or vice versa?
It wouldn’t surprise me if the Sox pulled off a major deal at the deadline, they’ve done it before.
Arroyo is signed for 2010 too.
He has a 5.21 ERA in the NL.
You might as well just bring up Igawa.
He’s got a 2 million dollar buyout after this season. That will get exercised rather than anybody paying him 11 million next year.
“It wouldn’t surprise me if the Sox pulled off a major deal at the deadline, they’ve done it before.”
Same here. I would expect them too actually. Sox have issues, no way Theo will let it go unaddressed. Even if he doesn’t get anyone, he will try his hardest
I would guess they do end up getting someone good though, unfortunately.
Bronson Arroyo rhp
2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option
2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option
signed extension with Cincinnati 2/07
$2.5M signing bonus (paid 2008)
09:$9.5M, 10:$11M, 11:$11M club option ($2M buyout)
2011 option may increase to $13M based on IP
agreed to give up 2008 performance bonuses as part of deal
I’m not worried about the Rays catching the Yankees. There is no way in hell they are catching the Yankees.
The Rays already have a good offense, VMart isn’t going to make that much of a difference from now until the end of the season.
They need to play 8 games better than the Yankees from this point on and I don’t see that happening.
ugh…this would be a terrible deal for the yanks…
i rather just get a reliever and put aceves in the rotation.
you’ll get the same results, if not better…without losing prospects and money.
GO YANKEES
Much rather take a chance on a guy like Ian Snell than Arroyo
“Arroyo is even worse than Mitre AND he is signed for next year as well
What would be the point of this trade?”
The point is to simply have another pitcher in the system.
the thing I’m looking forward to the most is the Yanks being able to put this ‘0-8 vs. Boston’ merde to bed. OMG, it never ends. Three bad series and sure enough it’s thrown out there ad nauseum.
The Yanks are winning at a .600+ clip, and yet somehow those eight games against Boston define the season thus far.
Hopefully, the Yanks can put together a few nice series against the offensively-challenged beaneaters, and that will be that. In the words of the immortal Michael Kay, “See ya!”
The one (maybe only) positive about acquiring Arroyo is that he and A-Rod already have their handshake down.
No corn-rows please.
Unless the Sox want to trade Bard and/or Buchholz, they aren’t getting Victor, Lee, Halladay or Gonzalez.
Nobody is excited about Bowden. After Bard and Buchholz, Casey Kelly and Lars Anderson (in that order) are the guys scouts really love.
After that, its the Japanese pitcher.
If the Sox are going to get in on bigger talents, those are the names that have to go back in return.
“They need to play 8 games better than the Yankees from this point on and I don’t see that happening.”
If the Yanks take 2 of 3 from them in this series I will cease worrying about them.
If we sweep Tampa, we would be 10 in the loss column ahead of them.
Francessa is going to do a backflip… and land on his face lol
Haven’t seen him pitch lately, but Arroyo’s main advantage is as an “innings eater” (200 IP/year for the last few years). Historically, a high-4’s era, 1.4ish Whip (too many base runners) and has a hot streak each year. He’s currently in his “hot streak”. Just my quick read of him.
I’ve got the fever, and the only cure is less cowbell!
Above all else, the Yankees can’t get swept. That would put the Rays right back in the race.
Even losing 2 out of 3 puts the Rays 6 out in the loss column with about 60 games remaining. Still an uphill climb.
If the Yankees sweep or win 2 of 3? Unless the Yankees collapse, its going to be real hard for the Rays to catch them with only 60 games remaining in the season.
All the pressure is on the Rays in this series. If the Yankees play as well as they have the last 3 weeks, they can put the Rays in the rearview mirror in the next 3 days.
A rotation of
CC
AJ
Andy
Arroyo
Mitre
Does not give me confidence in the month of September and in the playoffs.
We would have replaced Joba and Wang with Mitre/Arroyo. 2 guys who probably are not even starters on good teams. Ouch.
People are overrating the red sox trade chips in pulling off a big deal.
Many of their top guys have taken a hit in value. Bucchholz and Bard would have to go in a deal of substance and they can’t afford to let those guys go.
And even Bucchholz isn’t worth what he was two years ago do to his poor major league performance to date.
Masterson now looks like he’s only a reliever due to his difficulties getting out lefties. Bowden is a middling guy.
And their number one prospect coming into this year – Lars Anderson – has had an absolutely terrible year and his value has fallen off a cliff.
They can make a deal – but it will hurt them in the process.
SJ: Just worry about today’s game. Win today, worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
“If the Yanks take 2 of 3 from them in this series I will cease worrying about them.”
Even if the Rays win 2 of 3 I’m not worrying about them. They aren’t making up a game a week on the Yankees, not with the way the Yankees have been playing.
I’d like to see the Yankees bury them this week however.
Why don’t you wait until deals are actually made to complain about them? Seems like the logical thing to do.
You may be complaining about something that won’t happen.
It is an embrassing how poorly Omar speaks. I am of Spanish desent and speak both English and Spanish well. I was cringing while he was speaking. He was just horrible and is an embrassement to the Mets.
Hot Stove.. nothing like it
Exactly.
If we get swept, the Rays are right back in this thing. We have our 3 best pitchers going. You figure we can get atleast ONE of these games.
That’s all we really need.
Bronson Arroyo?
No thank you!
Angels started the trend several years ago of overvaluing their prospects to the point of not using them as trade chips in ANY deals (see Brandon Wood).
I harken back to the Baseball America historical Top 100 each year; you just never know with “prospects”.
I’ll go with late 90s NYY model: good home-grown core and use the prospects to get the missing pieces. Not sure Arroyo is David Cone (okay, I’m SURE he’s not), but NYY are going to have to get some innings from somewhere. Keep it close through six, turn it over to the bullpen and deep lineup. Can’t ask for more from your 4-5 starters.
“the thing I’m looking forward to the most is the Yanks being able to put this ‘0-8 vs. Boston’ merde to bed. OMG, it never ends. Three bad series and sure enough it’s thrown out there ad nauseum.
The Yanks are winning at a .600+ clip, and yet somehow those eight games against Boston define the season thus far”
I don’t think it defines the season — technically, the Yanks could go zero-for-the-season against Boston and still win the World Series (assuming Boston loses in the first round of the playoffs or doesn’t make it to the post season).
The trouble is this: More than likely, the Yanks will face the Sox if they hope to progress far into the post season. And, as of the last time they played, the Sox were the better team, head-to-head. Much better. Lord knows I hope this changes, but the math, at least, is ugly. If the two teams were really equal (that is, each had a 50/50 chance of winning each game), the chances that one team would go 0-8 is one in 512. In other words, it can be said (again, mathematically speaking, and as of six weeks ago) that there’s greater than a 99.5% chance that the Sox are better than the Yanks, head-to-head.
Which is why I’m worried, and hope like crazy that those odds looks a lot better come year end.
I’m not too excited about this Arroyo talk.
Baseball-reference’s similar player listings for him are pretty funny.
Similar Pitchers through 31
Kris Benson (975)
Joey Hamilton (974)
Mark Clark (973)
Dustin Hermanson (972)
Andy Ashby (968)
Brett Tomko (967)
I’m not writing the Rays off yet.
Of the Yanks 64 remaining games, 30 are against the Red Sox, the Rays or Toronto. We have two separate West Coast road trips to go through, including one more visit to Anaheim.
I’d REALLY like to win 2 out of 3 against the Rays.
don’t know if it would happen but a Yankee of of Swisher in LF,Damon in CF & Hinske in RF would be hard to watch
Quite an afternoon.
First, don’t be hating on the Burgh and Golden Corral! Good place for breakfast at 3 AM.
Second, if Omar fights Kay, Paul O’Neill should ref under his banner.
Third, should we be betting over which GM gets the axe first, JP Riccardi or Omar Minaya?
Fourth, Jason Zillo deserves a promotion. The ARod hit piece in the NY Times Book Review by Toure (who the hell is Toure) looks mean and old after HOPE week. ARod is simply playing baseball right now, if anyone noticed, and nothing about poker clubs, strip clubs, Madonna, kabbalah is making the news. Just the Yankees leaving YS open until 3 AM for XP kids. Take that, Toure!
Fifth, best team in the AL, possibly best record in baseball by the end of the week, and 56% home grown players on the 25 man (versus 48% for the Sawx, and second in MLB). Where does the Boston media get off saying the Yankees simply buy talent and nothing else? Look in the mirror, chowdaheads.
Sixth, if the Sawx want to gut their farm for Cliff Lee +/- Victor Martinez, let them. Note to Lohudnicks: we’ve been down that path with the Yankees from 2001-2006, and where did that get us?
Seventh, Joba appears to be able to start until September 1. After that, the farm floodgates can open, and rotation depth is no longer a problem. So you need a fifth starter for about 5-6 starts. Aceves plus Mitre should be at least replacement level, which is all they need. Picking up a reliever is the way to go, which Cashman is trying to do under the radar.
Eighth, maybe JP does Rios plus Downs to the Yankees for salary dump plus quantity in return–unlikely, but worth a thought.
Ninth, my guess is that Wang has scar tissue. However, convince Pettitte to pitch one more year in 10 (which he hinted at in the offseason), and you have CC, Burnett, Joba, Hughes, Pettitte with Wang a question. In 2011, sign Doc to a 3-5 year contract.
Arroyo?
What?
URGENT: Attn Brian Cashman,
Please look at this before signing anything!
http://www.thesunblog.com/sports/arroyoguitar.jpg
To me, West Coast trips are only a big deal when we are playing the Angels.
When push comes to shove in late September and we’re fighting for our playoff lives, are we really going to lose that series in Seattle to the Mariners who would have packed it in by then?
“A rotation of
CC
AJ
Andy
Arroyo
Mitre
Does not give me confidence in the month of September and in the playoffs.”
Joba would then be in the bullpen making it Coke, Aceves, Joba, Hughes, Mo. Pure domination. But at that point you would think Aceves would be in there for Mitre. Ace could make a decent #4. They will be fine.
as with all trades, it depends on what you pay. that being said, arroyo would be a good p/u, he wont be awed by the a.l. east and he’s shown he will give you innings. we’re not looking for a top end guy, we’re just looking for an upgrade from mitre.
Washburn really makes the most sense. He’s a lefty (always a plus at the Stadium). He’s battle tested, and he knows the AL. What’s more, he’s having a very solid season.
Unless Seattle is unrealistic with their trade demand, I’m all for Cashman going full on for him.
Zoso
July 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Omar Minaya going with the Chewbacca Defense.
Brilliant!
Did Omar rip Rubins arm off?
omg. I’d rather have Washburn than Arroyo.
I still think it’s hilarious how fans give the Rays mucho respect when they are 6 games behind us, but when we were only 3 back of the Sox, it was because the Yankees sucked and it was the end of the world.
The Jays are not trading within the division, but if they do, the Yankees can’t let Doc go there……..
Would you rather trade Phil Hughes for Washburn or get Arroyo for much less of a price? Last year, Seattle wanted Hughes for Washburn.
Last week, they wanted Gardner AND Cabrera for Washburn.
Its not about which pitcher you would rather have. I’d rather have Doc Halladay than all of these guys combined.
The issue is cost to obtain the player. If the cost is ridiculous, as most of the trade proposals have been all over baseball so far, deals aren’t getting done.
No thanks on Washburn – I certainly am not willing to give up premium prospects for him. Pass.
“omg. I’d rather have Washburn than Arroyo”
the asking price for Washburn will be sky-high. Supply & demand
“I still think it’s hilarious how fans give the Rays mucho respect when they are 6 games behind us, but when we were only 3 back of the Sox, it was because the Yankees sucked and it was the end of the world.”
You make the mistake of assigning a collective consciousness to the people who post on this blog.
SJ,
Neither!
I’ll stick with Sergio mitre or get a reliever to replace Aceves when he goes back to the rotation.
vinny,
If that’s the case, then Washburn will most likely be a mariner after the deadline.
We went through this last season, too.
with all the teams still looking at the playoffs, you think they would have to go looking at a team that is just about out of the playoff race, upon looking there’s not much out there. Washburn does look like a good move but at what cost.
“It wouldn’t surprise me if the Sox pulled off a major deal at the deadline, they’ve done it before.”
They also have a history of a Gagne trade too. Major doesn’t always equal good for the Sox, Yanks or anyone else.
They are getting a pitcher this week. There is no way they are going the rest of the year with the staff as presently constructed.
If its a bullpen guy, they will transition Aceves back to the rotation. If its a starter, they pen will remain the same.
Knowing the Yankees, they will probably get a starter and bullpen help and just stockpile it.
I would be very surprised if they stood pat.
Would you expect Seattle to say they want scrubs for Washburn?
It’s called negotiation. Seattle is going nowhere, and Washburn is a rental.
Cashman is a good G.M. (contrary to what I’ve written in the past). If there’s a way to do it at a reasonable cost, I’m sure he’ll get it done.
Don’t sell Washburn short, he really is pretty damn solid for a middle-of-the-rotation sort.
“They are getting a pitcher this week. There is no way they are going the rest of the year with the staff as presently constructed.”
I have no problem with that as long as we don’t trade away our blue chip players.
Imagine if AJ or CC gets hurt. The season goes down the drain…
Wave, I’m not sure what your point is. There are plenty of folks on this board who quake in their boots from fear of the Rays, but hate on the Yankees at the same time. I respect the Rays, but to me it just is hypocritical…..
You said you wanted Cashman to get 1 or 2 starters right?
Well, the Bronson Arroyos of the world are the only ones available unless you want to give up top prospects. Every guy we acquire will be of the “lightening in a bottle” variety, with no guarantee of success. No sure things unless you want to give up a lot.
addendum: Washburn isn’t quite a rental. He’s signed through 2010.
The onus will be on Cashman to not overpay, but I still think he can get it done w/out sacrificing a future asset.
Kim Jones just said that the Rays have 3 10-game homestands left in the 2nd half.
And they just went 6-4 on their road trip.
They are not going to go away. they may not catch us, but they will make us sweat.
Hardwired, I don’t think so……..The Ms were looking for Austin Jackson last year even though getting rid of Washburn would have been a salary dump. No thanks – I’m not counting on them to be reasonable.
Washburn has 3 problems:
1. He’s a flyball pitcher and that really isn’t a good recipe for pitching in the new Stadium.
2. He’s not Lee or Halladay. However, he is good enough to make Seattle ask for better level prospects in return.
Unfortuately, he’s not good enough to warrant giving up those prospects. Especially since he’s a FA at the end of the year and is a flyball pitcher.
3. The Yankees have been down this road before with the Mariners, albeit under different management. I don’t know if they want to get bounced around again like they were last year.
I’d love for AJ to win tonight. That would guarantee no sweep and anything else, in the Rays’ homefield, is gravy.
Arroyo is signed through 2010. The club option is for 2011.
So if we get him, we’re stuck with him for next year too.
I have faith in AJ and CC, they should be fine.
(dont jynx it lol)
remember, cash has pointed out on several occasions plenty of talent will be available post-deadline.
# Laura – Happy Birthday, Alex! Now let me see some HRs! July 27th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
“They are getting a pitcher this week. There is no way they are going the rest of the year with the staff as presently constructed.”
I have no problem with that as long as we don’t trade away our blue chip players.
i’ll trade away prospects like jackson and mcallister and melancon if it gets me a pitcher like cliff lee.
not sure if i add romine to that deal…maybe another sp prospect…but im sure the indians would want either romine or montero
Jonah, I’m sorry, but you missed my point. I want to know why fans are respecting the Rays and praising them (which I agree with, by the way), but when the Yankees were only 3 games behind the Sox (and the Rays are 6 behind us), fans were killing the Yankees. It makes no sense to me.
Unless Cashman is going to give up top prospects, people just have to accept that we’re going to head down the stretch with a shaky rotation.
When you lose someone like Wang and have to take your young promising starter out of the rotation because of innings, you can’t replace them with comparable pitchers in the middle of the season. There is nothing Cashman can do.
The Rays had some nice come from behind wins on their road trip. They and the Yankees are a good matchup. Two teams with lots of confidence who play 9 innings. Gonna be a tough series.
I think Cash is overstating what will be available on the waiver wire.
Plus, with the Yankees in first place, I doubt very seriously the Rays or Red Sox are going to let good players slip through that could help the Yankees.
I think he was speaking more in a wishful tone than a belief tone.
Betsy-
I was just kidding. I do respect the Rays, but I wasn’t among those panicking after we dropped 3 to the Angels. People worry about things all the time here, but it’s different people worrying about different things at different times.
addendum to the addendum: Washburn is free agent in 2010:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....ree-a.html
Seattle would be overplaying their hand if they seriously pushed for an A-list prospect.
Also, I promise to do better research before posting in the future. lol.
A guess? Ian Snell, Bronson Arroyo and a reliever, let’s say Grabow or Capps. If it’s Snell and a Pirate RP, here’s guessing that two mid-level pitchers and Juan Miranda go to Pittsburgh. I’m also guessing that Arroyo costs less, player-wise because of his cost, salary-wise. Thoughts?
Cashman did make a good point about more players making it through waivers because teams don’t want to be stuck holding the bag if they’re doing it for the sake of blocking teams.
SJ,
Agree. No good player is going to fall to us on waivers. If he doesn’t get someone by Friday, there is very little he can do.
Where a Pitcher plays is important as well. The Reds play in a band box while Seattle is a pitchers park. Washburn is every bit as much a risk as Arroyo. I prefer Halladay & even Bedard if he is healthy or soon healthy. Durch is also a good option provided the A’s don’t try to fleece the Yankees for him.
Where Boston may be able to do damage is not with their farm system, but by taking on contracts. They may be able to get the Pirates 2B Sanchez & SS Wilson combo and parlay a trade to Cleveland of Pedoria & Lowrie with a Pitcher like Bucholtz & Bard for Lee & V-Mart. I actually think 2B Sanchez & SS Wilson would be an upgrade over Pedoria & Lowrie to boot.
The Yankees could do something similar to try & get Rios & Halladay with another club or even the Pirates or Giants. I think Lee could be great in Yankee Stadium similar to Key.
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/
Just terrific…….
right now Sergio Mitre isn’t the answer, I still have faith in Andy & Joba seems to have turn it around,so what they should be looking for is a SP who can get them 6-7 innings and keep them in the game,also another lefthanded RP wouldn’t hurt. BTW…to look at 2010 FA’s not much out there hitters or pitchers
Just my opinion, but the pitchers the NYY should/could/would be looking at would fall under the definition of “service-able”. They don’t need to be aces. They need to pitch 6 per outing.
“addendum to the addendum: Washburn is free agent in 2010:”
Washburn is a free agent at the end of this year. Cot’s is a better source of contract information than mlbtraderumors.
Wave, I’ll buy that,lol…… I worry, too, but on the other hand, I think after 100 or so games that I can have faith in this team.
Here’s hoping AJ pitches a game like he pitched the last time we were in Tampa, lol
Yankee fans are confident about their own team, but smart enough to realize how talented the Rays are and how one bad slump by us (which we’ve had already this season) can really erase all the breathing room we have.
Our schedule is also much tougher in the 2nd half than theirs or Bostons are. Especially in September. Tampa plays 13 of their last 16 at home. They also only have 3 games left on the West, we have 13.
Nobody is “worried” about Tampa. Just want to gain as much ground on them as possible because they are a dangerous team.
How does this pitcher sound?:
ERA: 2.71
WHIP: 1.06
batting avg against: .224
Don’t sell Washburn short. It’s not like I’m in the Jarrod Washburn fan club, but compared to Arroyo or Snell he looks like Walter Johnson.
In other words, Sherman has nothing new to report on Halladay.
At this point, if he gets traded, then its news. Its like that for everybody now.
Until then, its just people filling space to give readers their fix of trade rumors.
I may not want the Yankees to trade for Halladay (or rather, give up Joba and/or Hughes to procure him), but I sure as heck do not want Halladay to be pitching for the hated, dreaded, Red Sox.
Just a word to the wise, if you make up “breaking news” on his blog, you’ll be banned from commenting. One strike and you are out. Non-negotiable.
CB, by 2010 they mean prior to the 2010 season. That’s what threw me at first. You’re right on about Cot’s though.
RT @jamalg @mlbtraderumors says that Bronson Arroyo IS scheduled to start tomorrow; TBA listed for tomorrow’s Reds starter was an “error.”
JP finally making the smart move. Red Sox can offer him a better package than these NL teams.
We could too, but I doubt Cashman includes Joba or Hughes. Sox might not be as high on Buchholz, despite what they say publicly.
Pete, would a bullet to the head be too severe?
I vote ‘No’, but that’s just me.
Doreen
July 27th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
I’d love for AJ to win tonight. That would guarantee no sweep and anything else, in the Rays’ homefield, is gravy.
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Well, it may be gravvy, but, it would be nice to have some American Fries to put under the gravvy.
This Arroyo thing is the biggest hit on the line we’ve had yet. I’m going to try and say 3 positive things.
He’ generally a healthy player.
He has pitched in the AL East and has won at least 1 big game.
Maybe all those earned runs in the NL central were against Pujols?
Would you trade Montero, Romine, Jackson or Hughes for Washburn? How about Melky AND Gardner?
These are some of the names Seattle has floated in the last year with the Yankees re: Washburn.
His stats don’t mean much if he is a flyball pitcher in Yankee Stadium. That would skew those stats.
He’s a good pitcher. He’s not worth giving up A List propsects for which, at least right now, is what Seattle is looking for in return.
If you are going to give up A List prospects, you have to get an A List player back in return. If not, the deal makes no sense from the Yankees perspective.
“http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/
Just terrific…….”
Betsy,
I saw that story. I assume you’re referring to Sherman reporting the Jays feel that the Phillies and Sox are the best matches for Halladay?
Here’s a question. Why would a Toronto source leak a story to a NY reporter?
Could it be intentional? Perhaps as a way to ridiculous way to get the yankees to the table?
Those leaks are intentional. They are leaked for an audience. Joel Sherman doesn’t have some magical relationship with people in the Jays who are going to be honest with him just because he’s a swell guy.
The Jays don’t want to trade Doc in the division. But the Phils have refused to bid against themselves so now the Jays are going to leak rumors to dry to artificially drum up a market. He’s trying to put pressure on the Phils by convincing them that the Sox and Yankees are still in it.
JP is up a creek and he knows it now.
SJ44 July 27th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
In other words, Sherman has nothing new to report on Halladay.
At this point, if he gets traded, then its news. Its like that for everybody now.
Until then, its just people filling space to give readers their fix of trade rumors
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this is why baseball is talked about 365 days a year….RUMORS
Sox sniffing around all these big names – Gonzo, V-Mart, Lee, Halladay etc. makes me nervous.
Clearly Theo is big game hunting. Will be interesting to see who, if anyone, is untouchable for him.
Lets go Yankees!
“Maybe all those earned runs in the NL central were against Pujols?”
Good one, Bronx!
What makes you think Toronto values Buchholz highly if the Red Sox don’t?
Toronto is looking for the moon for Halladay. Absent that, they aren’t going to give him to the Red Sox, despite the fears from paranoid Yankee fans re: anything Red Sox.
The same premium the Yankees have for Halladay is in place for Boston.
If they want to blow up their system to get him, good luck.
Gammons will go full throttle in overrating his beloved Boston Socks prospects as Theo Epstein’s tool right through Friday.
Pete, I agree with you about the Mets situation. I have several friends that are diehard Mets fans, and also completely respectable of other teams and their fans.
For their organization to show this form of immaturity is an insult to the fans that pay for Mets tickets and merchandise, in addition to devoting hours of their hard-working weeks to watch their favorite baseball team. To run an organization so poorly is disgraceful to the game of baseball, not to mention a slap in the face to journalists that simply want to get a TRUE story out there.
I never understood why someone would give Minaya a chance… real front offices like the Yankees and Red Sox would laugh in his face if he applied for a job. The guy got lucky one year and has been a disgrace to the professionalism of baseball ever since.
As far as I’m concerned, Yankees and Red Sox fans should be thankful for their organization’s professionalism (most of the time). John Henry may spew off ridiculous statements and Hank may be too loud and obnoxious, but these guys are really nothing more than entertaining. They don’t directly harm their teams with their immaturity. Behind closed doors they are doing what they are supposed to, for the most part.
RT @ed_price #Reds say Bronson Arroyo will start tomorrow. But #Yankees have 2 scouts in Cincy, so something brewing
I have breaking news stories all the time but I do keep them to myself
Arroyo had a 3.47 ERA in the 2nd half last year
For his career, he has a 3.90 ERA in the 2nd half, a run lower than his 1st half ERA.
Could be like the Sox with LaRoche… has strong 2nd half numbers that we could capitalize on.
The question being asked by Yankee the Yankee Ownership is, how many productive years do Jeter, Rivera, Posada, A-Rod Mr. Stienbrenner have left ??? If they pick up a mid-level starter, or reliever and push Aceves to the rotation what is the % of winning this season & next??? How does that % increase if you cash in some valued chips now ??? It really comes down to the few that own the club and price they value an increased chance of winning right now…..
CB -
And I took the bait!
(Hook, line and sinker) (Regarding the RS interest in Halladay)
http://www.nesn.com/2009/07/re.....-done.html
Arroyo would be nice.
Vince,
Actual scouts could give a hoot about Gammons’ ESPN analysis. They have their own scouts that are being paid to do their job. Gammons is for the everyday baseball fans with no access to the in-depth team reports. I personally think he is a good reporter but I hope no one actually believes that he has an influence on the trading deadline.
“Just Say No” to Arroyo, no matter what his first name is (I thought ARod might of called him “Slappy”). None of those ‘04 Beaneaters in Pinstripes, ever. No to Derek Lowe over the winter & remember that “Minky” was worthless too.
We better not be giving up anything of value if we’re getting Arroyo.
Arroyo Made A-Rod and Varitek fight
Hes trouble
Everybody, including the Yankees, “sniff around” at the bigger talents on the market. Who doesn’t? That’s not news.
When the Sox do a deal, then you can panic. Until then, think for a minute.
They need a bat more than they need another pitcher. If they use all of their assets, which they would have to do, to get Halladay, where are they getting the bat?
As CB says, the Jays don’t want to trade Halladay within the division unless they get a huge return.
Boston, like the Yankees aren’t going “huge” to get him. That being the case, there will be no deal.
I’m so glad the Yanks won yesterday. The thought of Mark Ellis beating them was almost too much to bear.
Last weekend of the year we have to go into the Trop while the Sox get the Indians in Fenway.
So unless we have a four game lead after 159 games, we’ll very likely be sweating the last series of the year.
Oh God, we have to put up with those damn cowbells.
RDM
July 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
“Another clueless post”…humm…just looked it up..>A Rod w/RISP is batting .262 and RISP w/2 outs he is batting .243…is that good for a clean up hitter SJ44??? I guess I am wrong…..
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Uhh…you are profoundly wrong RDM.
2 outs and RISP the guy’s OBP is .451…do you have a clue? He’s not getting pitched to, bozo. Earlier, when he couldn’t really couldn’t employ his lower half because of his surgery, he used his smarts to read the strike zone and take walks.
His High Leverage numbers: .288/.427/.678 with an OPS of 1.015.
Yanks within a run: 1.026 OPS.
Yanks within two: 1.007 OPS.
Late & Close?: .265/.468 (!!!)/ with a 256 OPS+ (!!!!!!!)
Some people around here just seriously don’t know how to interpret results, or ignore them altogether. It’s kind of stunning.
This guy is doing this off of HIP surgery: what part of exceptional bat don’t you see in these statistics?
I’m not even trying to be mean here, I am seriously stunned that someone would try to skew what ALex has done since his return negatively, using BA alone. I have no words….
Who thinks the birthday boy will homer tonight?
CB, good points….Ok, off to dinner. Go AJ!
I don’t care what A-Rod does tonight as long as the Yankees win.
He could suddenly strip at third base and I wouldn’t care if the Yankees won.
I’ll admit, it would be kind of funny to watch Francesa spin Arroyo’s stinkers if pitched for the Yanks.
And trust me, there would be stinkers. He’s capable of spinning a few good starts, but he is more than capable of being LIT UP.
oh boy, 3 whole days of cowbells
I’m sure you’d care just a little bit if he stripped, Rebecca lol.
“He could suddenly strip at third base and I wouldn’t care if the Yankees won.”
Um, Alex standing naked at 3B is certainly something that would catch my eye. The Yankees winning would just be gravy.
Peter Abraham:
“I covered the Mets before I was promoted to the Yankees.”
++++
Funny how Pete thinks getting to the Yanks is a promotion over the Mets. I guess anyone/everyone would think that.
Here’s a suggestion guys: take a pitch?
I expect ARod to hit 3 HRs tonight! One for himself, 1 for Kate & 1 for Madonna. LOL!
Damn I know this is a Yankees Blog and all, But I just watched the Video Pete linked us to..
Minaya stepped out of character right there. You can tell by Rubins reaction, like wow, Did Minaya really just do this, I cant believe this.
Mets should restructure their leadership, Minaya shouldn’t be GM at this point.
Tampa is a pretty cool city. Clean, for the most part, and Ybor City knows how to party.
“Mets should restructure their leadership, Minaya shouldn’t be GM at this point.”
He should have been canned 2 years ago.
Tex baby!
Anyone else watching the game via MLB.tv? I can hear the stupid cowbells, the crowd, the ball hitting the mitt but no Michael Kay, Singleton, Cone, et al!!!
What’s up? Thanks
“expedite more the investigation”
yeah ok. minaya is an idiot who can’t even grasp simple english. it’s no wonder he’s run that team into the ground. he fits in with the rest of that organization’s clownish antics. and people have called the Yankees a zoo…..
if the Yankees are a zoo the Mets are a carnival
Yeah I agree, When Willie was released, Minaya should have been as well :/
“Anyone else watching the game via MLB.tv? I can hear the stupid cowbells, the crowd, the ball hitting the mitt but no Michael Kay, Singleton, Cone, et al!!!
What’s up? Thanks”
Same for me, I’m listening to the other broadcast but the Rays announcers are pretty terrible
Minaya is a tool, no other way around that. He’s not been the greatest of GM’s. He’s done a lot of “no brainer” moves, I.E.: Johan Santana, K-Rod, Beltran
someone have a link for the game?
“the Rays announcers are pretty terrible”
I remember when Dewayne Staats did Yankee games. Those were most definitely not ‘the good old days’.
“The Arroyo-to-the-Yankees thing? Yeah, not so much. Shot down by the Yanks.”
http://twitter.com/PeteAbe/statuses/2879489096
does the camera angle seem off to anyone else?
Minaya is tough to listen to
Woah, this umpire is a little tight eh?
horrible call
AJ is throwing well watch out
Oh come on that was strike 3
Dear AJ,
Please do not walk the fast TB runners. Thanks.
Signed, All Yankee fans
I just checked at the mlb support forum and evidently I am not crazy….others have noticed the broadcaster’s silence as well. At 7:14 pm today, MLB support said that they are working on it.
The moving strike zone is my favorite
““The Arroyo-to-the-Yankees thing? Yeah, not so much. Shot down by the Yanks.””
What a surprise. The Reds leaked to a reporter that their player with an untradable contract was wanted by the team with the most money in the game.
Nice don’t let the Rays get too comfortable up there A.J
oops
“Woah, this umpire is a little tight eh?”
AJ had Crawford struck out. Bad call.
Looks like another wandering strike zone tonight.
Can I watch game online for free?
Longoria looked like he was swinging for the fences there.
GJ AJ
Swisher makes me nervous but AJ gets out of the jam!
Interesting tweet:
@metsgrrl: wilpons were apparently not live, folks. sorry. but jeff w. said that adam was not the first person to ask a general question.
If the Wilpons are siding with a reporter over their own GM, Omar is cooked.
I get so nervous when a ball is hit to Swisher…ugh
Yagi July 27th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Can I watch game online for free?
http://www.mlb.tv
nice job aj..nice catch swish?
Look, Rays strand guys at 3rd with less than 2 outs too.
I likes me some A.J.!
Great job by AJ getting out of that. He had Crawford struck out. Instead of getting caught up in the bad call and the poor pick of throw he focused on Longoria and just blew him away.
His stuff was very good that inning.
Not pretty but Nick made the catch and that’s all that matters.
Poetic justice since AJ struck out Crawford and didn’t get the call.
AJ + Nick Swisher = Crazy plays in Right
Broadcaster’s audio up now on YES. Now if they could just cut out the cowbells! :/
“Look, Rays strand guys at 3rd with less than 2 outs too.”
Let’s hope we see more of that when that situation arises.
Michael Kay: “Nick Swisher’s a thrill-a-minute out there.”
You got that right, balloon head.
somewhere along the way this OF defense is going to lose some big games for this team
JORGE!!!
wow…nice going mat and posada
Matsui’s knees just called 911.
Matsui runs pretty well for a guy lugging a refrigerator.
I know, I know…he had bad knees.
Where is the dolt whining about Posada’s “awful”AB’s?
Best slide ever
Robbie will get a hit. Robbie will get a hit. Positive thinking!!
Good Job Matsui
I think what people complain about most here is players swinging at the first pitch.
Well matsui just crushed a first pitch.
And Posada crushed a first pitch for a double to drive in the run.
Was that poor patience?
cant believe matsui just scored all the way from 1st!
Robbie!!!
YEA CANO!
Told you!!!!!!
ROBBIE DOESN’T FEAR THE RISP!!!
ROBBIE BROUGHT THE COWBELL!!!
robbie cano dontcha know?
Robi bustin’ it all the way?? I’m on radio
Swish!
yanks up 3-0…that was QUICK…
its a good thing cano can’t hit with runners in scoring position…this is why people shouldn’t assert that cano’s weakness is that he isn’t “clutch”
ABC baseball.
Single-Double-Triple that’s about as simple as it gets
James “Big Game” Shields obviously doesn’t feel this is a big game.
Cowbell down.
great job swish…look at the fundamentals!
i would almost bunt melky right now…
Uncle Ellsworth July 27th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Robi bustin’ it all the way?? I’m on radio
Everyone thought it was gone. He turned on the Jets though.
Two fastest guys on the team makin’ their way around the bases. lol
Nice inning so far.
Cano didn’t bust it out of the box
The wind took that one
“Robi bustin’ it all the way??”
negatory.
This is good. Very good
“Cano didn’t bust it out of the box”
Seriously bro? He got a triple! What do you want an inside the park HR?
Wooo Keep it going Yanks!
“I think what people complain about most here is players swinging at the first pitch. Well matsui just crushed a first pitch. And Posada crushed a first pitch for a double to drive in the run. Was that poor patience?”
No, it was a bit of observation and luck. They noticed that Shields was throwing a lot of first pitch fastballs for strikes. If you are going to be aggressive, you try to get a hold of one of those. Thankfully, they were successful.
send jeter…let him steal 2nd…
anyone else who remembers the 98 juggernaut team think this team has been playing like that team?
Now that you have 3 runs the idea is to work up Sheilds’ pitch count… I don’t know why Melky swung at that 1-0 pitch with no one on. Ugh.
Cano didn’t bust it out of the box”
Seriously bro? He got a triple! What do you want an inside the park HR?
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run the bases like your suppose to
29 pitches for Shields
To attack Shields, you try and stay away from his changeup.
To do so, you look for fastballs early in the count and swing.
Make him adjust. That’s a good gameplan.
Pete, don’t get too excited…..lot of game left and AJ threw 20 pitches the first inning…..
things that go thump in the dead of the night
July 27th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
anyone else who remembers the 98 juggernaut team think this team has been playing like that team?
KJ asked Mo if he was reminded of other teams he’s been on he said “not even close” Like this team is the best -
maybe a little hyperbolic on his part but this team is Rockin’
how does a guy batting .219 make the all star game?
Patrick the Prospect Hugger July 27th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
“Cano didn’t bust it out of the box”
Seriously bro? He got a triple! What do you want an inside the park HR?
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and the only reason he got a triple is because the RF couldn,t find the ball
before the season started, i predicted AJ would be in cy young territory. now he started off rough but his last 7 starts have been nothing but cy young worthy…
AJ has some nasty stuff tonight. He has really turned his season around.
Peter Venkman would be proud.
“don’t get too excited”. This from the Mensa candidate of the blog. Too funny.
lol…
Pete just quoted one of the funniest movies of all time! Love the Ghostbusters!
imagine how good aj would be if he didnt walk guys…HOF potential..
Come on AJ attack!
“Come on AJ attack!”
What is he, carl – a pit bull? LOL!
Walks are the only weakness in AJ’s game. If he could ever clean that up, he’s one of the 5 best pitchers in the game.
Great Twitter post Pete lmao
Nice that’s how you do it
trisha would love this. The TB announcers were just praising Jorge’s game calling skills.
“When AJ Attacks”…next on nat geo…
PFP at it’s best!
A.J. is just plain nasty. This is the guy who was walking death against the Yanks in years past.
37 pitches for AJ
splendid?
# Laura – Happy Birthday, Alex! Now let me see some HRs! July 27th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
“Come on AJ attack!”
What is he, carl – a pit bull? LOL!
lol he needs to act like one
AJ’s got his very good fastball tonight. They are not going to hit it.
He just needs to stop fooling around like he was with Burrell and just throw heat. Burrell is a .225 hitter this year. AJ completely overpowered Longoria and he’s trying to hit corners with Burrell?
He will dominate tonight if he does not walk people.
His stuff is so good tonight.
Why dont the Yankees talk to the Diamondbacks about a Haren/Qualls package?
I’m nominating A.J. as the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.
“Why dont the Yankees talk to the Diamondbacks about a Haren/Qualls package?”
Because we’d have to send either Hughes or Joba to get Haren. If you want top shelf players, you usually have to send back top shelf players.
man…all tex has to do is just hold the bat out there facing 3rd base and he gets a base hit. doesn’t even have to swing it…
Hey Ralph,
The Yankees would have to give up Hughes or Joba and two prospects named Montero and Austin Jackson to acquire Dan Haren. He’s a top 5 starting pitcher right now and he will not come cheap.
“Why dont the Yankees talk to the Diamondbacks about a Haren/Qualls package?”
funny how i am answering somebody with my own name…but yea thats not happening…
joba
hughes
montero
ajax
romine
+++++more, lots
worth it? no..
There is no AJ only Zule
Wait, seriously?
“UPDATE, 7:47 p.m.: Breaking news: Brian Cashman is talking trade with Adam Rubin of the Mets. Johan Santana for Alan Horn, Kei Igawa, Cody Ransom and a PTBNL.”
It’s a good thing he got Bernazard fired, otherwise we couldn’t do that deal.
Arod should have yelled HA!
If they want to blow up their system to get him, good luck.
why them do you advocate the yankees getting him then?
i think he would be great & make us better for a few years but i don’t know how much better than joba he will be once joba is over his restrictions.
“Arod should have yelled HA!”
That play only works once.
A-Rod with wrist bands so cool
With the clock ticking.
I’m going to ask people once again:
Jackson, Romine, Mcallister, Melancon for Cliff Lee
I wouldn’t want to trade Romine or Montero, and would rather add a high upside arm guy like Manuel Banuelos instead, but you’d have to believe this is the Indians asking price.
Would you do it? If not, what package would you send for Cliff Lee?
42 pitches for Shields
CB, You got to just love that arm…..
True it would take a big package but I think it wouldnt be as much as u would give for Halliday. True it would be better to get Halliday but I think Haren has a huge upside.
Centering a package around Joba and Montero with 2 B Prospects ans a C should get it done.
“I’m going to ask people once again:
Jackson, Romine, Mcallister, Melancon for Cliff Lee”
And I’ll tell you once again – No.
This ump is really squeezing Burnett.
Once I saw the fire and brimstone quote, I was sincerely hoping for the rest of the Ghostbusters quote. Thanks for delivering Pete.
Give that man his Gold Glove now, please.
Tex amazing
tex is nastyyy
giambi would’ve hit that with his glove and launched it over the fence for a homerun…
Giambi totally makes that play… or not.
And A-Rod is correct
I’m going to ask people once again:
Jackson, Romine, Mcallister, Melancon for Cliff Lee
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Is that before or after Shapiro laughs Cashman off the phone.
AJ at 49 pitches.
“I’m going to ask people once again:
Jackson, Romine, Mcallister, Melancon for Cliff Lee”
Q:
how would an opposing scout file a report on Melancon?
A:
“Looks good in the pen. Carries out the bullpen equipment with authority. Eats peanuts and watches the other pitchers intently. Impressively, he hasn’t given up a hit in 17 days”
not sure if this has been posted already:
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/swe.....style.html
“Q:
how would an opposing scout file a report on Melancon?
A:
“Looks good in the pen. Carries out the bullpen equipment with authority. Eats peanuts and watches the other pitchers intently. Impressively, he hasn’t given up a hit in 17 days”
LOL!
Cleveland wouldn’t do that trade.
Bru,
No premium, you look at Doc. With the premium the Jays are attaching to a Yankee offer, you can’t drain the system to get him.
I love how the home team fans always boo when the pitcher throws over to first, as if that’s going to stop the pitcher to throw over in the future.
Sadly, even Yankee fans do it.
boo!!! now the catcher is talking to the pitcher.
boo!!!
Pat M.,
That strike out of Longoria – how many guys can do that.
This is Longoria. And he literally had no chance. Just completely over powered.
Unfortunately the rays are a very patient team and they are clearly going up there and taking pitches to run up AJ’s pitch count.
And he hasn’t adjusted to that. He’s trying to strike every guy out and to be perfect.
He just not throwing enough strikes right now. And that’s a shame on a night where his fastball is tremendous.
u are a funny dude pete
that adam line brought a smile to my face in what was otherwise a rough day.
Pete,
Hard to be credible when you don’t spell our prospects correctly… it’s Horne, plus any offer w/the Mets that doesn’t have Bruney as part of the package is immediately dismissed.
and the genius that wants to give up our future(Montero,AJax,Hughes,and everybody else) for Cliff Lee…get a clue Cliff Lee was DEMOTED to AAA in ‘07 cuz he sucked…i know he won the CY last year but that’s been all he’s done in his career and he’s 31…duh if i am going to trade my entire future(which i would def NOT do if i’m Cash)i’m bringing back Halladay or King Felix not Lee!
Don’t let Longo hit one out here.
it’s funny how one person says no (laura), and then another says the indians’ gm would laugh at cashman making that offer (sunny).
you can replace melancon in the deal if you’d like DT.
“I love how the home team fans always boo when the pitcher throws over to first, as if that’s going to stop the pitcher to throw over in the future.”
Or as if it’s not part of the game. I could see it if the pitcher was doing something dishonest by throwing over there. But in fact, he’s doing his job. Pitchers are supposed to try and hold the runner. That’s how baseball works. And people boo. They are stupid. No other excuse makes sense.
That trade proposal is laughable……I just don’t see Lee being remotely worth that package……
MM, Cano made that close. He is so quick on that pivot!
Gonna need Ace today. Maybe 2 innings from him.
AJ at 58 pitches.
“UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: The Reds just shot down the Arroyo rumor, too. Mike Francesa said to be furious.”
He thinks its ATROCIOUS that the Yankees would turn down such a great deal for such a spectacular pitcher.
Francessa needs a permanent vacation.
aj not economical today but if your not gonna be economical atleast dont give up runs and hes not doing that…hard to complain too much..but im sure some will anyways
Solid job by AJ so far. Some more runs would be nice.
I hate to say it, but we’ll probably only get 5, maybe 6 from AJ today.
“Cano made that close. He is so quick on that pivot!”
Cano’s sidearm semi-flip is almost revolutionary. He can pull it off from seemingly anywhere on the field. It has serious velocity, and is unerringly accurate.
He plays 2B on a different level.
To Cliff Lee haters: He’s having a better year than CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett. Lee’s career year has topped both of their career years too. That’s a renaissance in my opinion.
“UPDATE, 7:47 p.m.: Breaking news: Brian Cashman is talking trade with Adam Rubin of the Mets. Johan Santana for Alan Horn, Kei Igawa, Cody Ransom and a PTBNL.”
This is neither funny nor nice.
And he takes a walk! Robbie!!!
cano walking…whats going on with the world
Cano takes a 4 pitch walk?
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: The Reds just shot down the Arroyo rumor, too. Mike Francesa said to be furious.
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He spit out his diet coke after hearing the news
Wait. Canó has a triple AND a four pitch walk? BRB, checking weather forecast in Hell…
“To Cliff Lee haters: He’s having a better year than CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett. Lee’s career year has topped both of their career years too. That’s a renaissance in my opinion.”
boy is that funny…
Lee is 7-9. How is he having a better year than AJ and CC?
“run the bases like your suppose to”
You are a dope.
lay off pete
“This is neither funny nor nice.”
Really? i thought it was hilarious
I bet you the TB players hate those cowbells.
I sure wish they wouldn’t be getting ahead of themselves regarding teh Rays. This game is young; this series is young; this season is still not done. Never underestimate your opponent.
Is it me or does Swisher strike out at least once a game?
Doreen its not like Michael flipping Kay is going to jinx the Yankees by talking about them possibly running away with the division.
Discussing the long term effects of this series is totally legit.
wth is cano doing
Why was Cano running there???
Why do they have Robbie steal? He’s just not that fast.
Cano missed a sign.
melky missed the sign?
Melky has to swing there to protect Cano. Not a good job there.
“Is it me or does Swisher strike out at least once a game?”
It seems like Swisher strikes a ton – but actually he has struck out less than Youk, Ortiz, Drew and Bay.
running? Cano was taking a stroll.
cano’s reaction leads you to think it was a botched hit and run
Pete, please ban the guy pretending to be Adam Rubin, there’s enough ridiculousness in here to deal with this sort of stuff.
Meanwhile, AJ’s going to get to 100 before the 6th…
Shields suddenly lost the strike zone.
I want to get picked off so I can go play Guitar Hero with Robbie in the clubhouse until we have to go back in the field
freaking melky
For a guy that has such a good eye, Swishwer whiffs far to often……
So now, I get treated the the weekly “YS is a bandbox” discusion by the opponent’s announcers. It just never gets old.
Terrible inning. Just horrible.
regardless of who missed the sign, you don’t do what cano did halfway down to second. Unbelievably stupid player, deserves to sit the rest of the game. Such a lazy, immature player.
“OK, so Cano now has a hit with a runner in scoring position and has drawn a walk. Has that ever happened in the same game before?”
Pete, if he steals a base, you’d better get outta there fast… something will be coming. 4 horsemen, flying pigs, unicorns… something big.
“Terrible inning. Just horrible.”
they’ve had worse…way worse…wayyyyyyyyy worse
One of them missed the sign; we’ll find out after the game.
Cano’s reaction seems to indicate it was Cabrera
BOS 5-0 vs OAK.
run the bases Cano
so Lee has a better 2 weeks and that makes him better than Sabathia and Burnett? his “career year” he pitched with no pressure for a team whose season was over in june…while CC was busy winning his CY he pitched his team to the ALCS and pitched the whole second half leading CLeveland to the division while Cliff Lee that same season was being demoted because he was terrible, c’mon guy stop it! you want to overpay for a guy with 1 years performance under his belt do it in your dynasty keeper fantasy league
is it only the 4th inning? geeze
regardless of who missed the sign, you don’t do what cano did halfway down to second. Unbelievably stupid player, deserves to sit the rest of the game. Such a lazy, immature player.
twice tinoght Cano didn’t bust it,and don’t give me that triple crap
Psyluk
stop trying to ban people.
this isn’t high school.
let pete determine on his own who to ban.
wow AJ threw 2 straight changeups
A.J. has to keep the pitch count down w/Phil unavailable. Pitch to contact, A.J., pitch to contact.
I think the HOF will survive without Goose Gossage
hard to believe how many strike outs Upton and Pena have already. (because they always seem to kill the Yanks)
Pena 128
Upton 110
Swisher 78 leads the NYY in k’s.
Poor Robbie. Just can’t get any love on this blog.
So you people whine and &itch even when the Yankees are up 3-0 against a division/wildcard rival on the road??
maybe we can trade Cano and Cabrera for Jake Peavy and David Eckstein.
“Swisher 78 leads the NYY in k’s.”
No shock there. He also leads the team in cartwheels out in RF.
Sorry, that play just sticks with me.
migg
If you hate the play and not the player, it sounds more intelligent and constructive.
Pete is famous – and a “highly trusted source”
from rotoworld.com
“According to Peter Abraham of The Journal News, the Yankees have shot down a rumor that they have interest in the Reds’ Bronson Arroyo.
A source told AOL Fanhouse’s Jeff Fletcher this afternoon that a deal “will get done,” but Abraham is a highly trusted source when it comes to Yankee affairs. It seems the Yanks will stick with Sergio Mitre as their No. 5 starter, unless something happens before Friday.
Source: Peter Abraham on Twitter ”
nice job Pete – movin on up…
Nice work AJ
AJ’s past 70 pitches already. He needs to get at least through 6 innings.
AJ doing pretty well without his best stuff tonight.
“A.J. has to keep the pitch count down w/Phil unavailable. Pitch to contact, A.J., pitch to contact.”
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eh, pitch to no runs first
then pitch to contact
Come on AJ, approaching 80 pitches in the 3rd inning YIKES. Hope he can go 6!! Boston clobbering Oakland 5-0. Yes, I watch Lee often, he is a great pitcher.
C’mon now, lets tack on some runs…AJ’s thrown 73 pitches for 4 innings…we will need to use the bullpen early and it would be nice to have a good lead.
“maybe we can trade Cano and Cabrera for Jake Peavy and David Eckstein.”
Go play in traffic.
“No shock there. He also leads the team in cartwheels out in RF.
Sorry, that play just sticks with me.”
I feel sorry for the Yanks CF. He’s got a circus going on in RF and Ice Capades in LF. So many choices….
“AJ doing pretty well without his best stuff tonight.”
Dan, have you been watching? His fastball is very good tonight.
Wakefield had a “setback”
“Tim Wakefield was unable to throw Monday as the Red Sox had hoped.
Wakefield has been sidelined since July 9 with a lower back strain and was hoping to make a major stride in his rehab Monday afternoon. “The medical staff wouldn’t allow it,” he said. “I felt like I could have. I feel fine. I feel a lot better.” He’ll try again Tuesday afternoon.”
Source: Providence Journal
“Come on AJ, approaching 80 pitches in the 3rd inning YIKES. Hope he can go 6!! Boston clobbering Oakland 5-0. Yes, I watch Lee often, he is a great pitcher.”
ummm…can you read? its 74 pitches through 4…cluelesssss
I was waiting for Kay to go off on Minaya. Voila.
Does anyone here have IO/ internet and Cable vision ?? You could help me watch the games!! right now i cant see any because I’m in a contract with dish and i didnt know they didn’t have YES. PLease help..
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You dont have anything to loose and will have helped a big yankee fan!
“I feel sorry for the Yanks CF. He’s got a circus going on in RF and Ice Capades in LF. So many choices….”
Don’t forget Alex and his pop ups misadventures. That’s entertaining as well.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
July 27th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
“No shock there. He also leads the team in cartwheels out in RF.
Sorry, that play just sticks with me.”
I feel sorry for the Yanks CF. He’s got a circus going on in RF and Ice Capades in LF. So many choices
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That literally made me laugh out loud! Best line EVER!! Thanks, DT.
Pete getting some street cred from rotoworld.com –
“According to Pet er Abr aham of The Journal News, the Yankees have shot down a rumor that they have interest in the Reds’ Bronson Arroyo.
A source told AOL Fanhouse’s Jeff Fletcher this afternoon that a deal “will get done,” but Abraham is a highly trusted source when it comes to Yankee affairs. It seems the Yanks will stick with Sergio Mitre as their No. 5 starter, unless something happens before Friday.
Source: Pe ter Abr aham on Twitter”
”
Does anyone here have IO/ internet and Cable vision ?? You could help me watch the games!! right now i cant see any because I’m in a contract with dish and i didnt know they didn’t have YES. PLease help..”
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mlb.tv works too
Don’t have to hurt it, Tex.
Yankees magic number to clinch AL East: 63
Yankees magic number to clinch playoff berth: 61
Keep it moving! Lets go Yankees!
That’s the first time I can remember Tex getting an opposite field hit like that.
David, The only reason why I went with Directv instead of Dish network was because they had YES network and Dish network doesnt.
This link used to work up until a couple of days ago but hasn’t worked around game time the past few days: http://stream2.wtsnam1270.com/
Alex is due for a huge bomb.
uh no, Arod’s batting average is approaching the David Ortiz line.
not a strike…
That was a crappy strike call.
Shields threw two borderline calls and the ump gave him both pitches.
I think Alex is also mad because the ump took a lot of time, as if he was still making up his mind what to call.
That’s the first time I remember Alex fighting a call.
Too close to take but it wasn’t a strike according to Gameday
Great quote from GB Pete, made me chuckle… no TV in my part of PA so the blog and the comments are my best updates.. Thanks everyone!
Gameday is terrible at determining strikes and balls.
Shdw July 27th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Too close to take but it wasn’t a strike according to Gameday
Gameday is like the bible around here
AB, thanks for the Link, but i have the radio broadcast, but i cant watch on TV, as I live in the NY area. And Blackout restrictions apply.
Boston Dave 2.0: MLB.tv wont work for me because its in market, ( i live in NYC area)
Arod must have birthday plans. Looking for an early exit.
Does anyone here have IO/ internet and Cable vision ?? You could help me watch the games!! right now i cant see any because I’m in a contract with dish and i didnt know they didn’t have YES. PLease help..
e-mail me at goddzz @ yahoo. com
You dont have anything to loose and will have helped a big yankee fan!
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Wow, you can’t hit a ball any harder than that.
How did Damon not tag up on that?
That’s because it’s the most accurate on the internet as far as I’ve seen. The radar is better than most stadium readings and it can actually show you the trajectory of the pitch and where it crossed the plate. Can your eye see where it crossed the plate on tv?
cant blame matsui there…he hit a rope…guy made a good play…tough luck
Pete getting some street cred from rotoworld.com
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as well he should. Pete is The Man.
I think it’s safe to say that Matsui has Shields number.
“How did Damon not tag up on that?”
Not enough time. That ball got out there in a hurry.
Those cowbells are so ridiculous. If they’re this loud on TV, I can’t imagine what it’s like actually sitting in the crowd.
“Those cowbells are so ridiculous. If they’re this loud on TV, I can’t imagine what it’s like actually sitting in the crowd.”
My guess is that it’s like torture.
queue a “Matt” post
I saw that third strike on arod and it was below the knees… the ump got stoked by the catcher
RS
July 27th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Those cowbells are so ridiculous. If they’re this loud on TV, I can’t imagine what it’s like actually sitting in the crowd.
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agree. but i think the problem is exacerbated on the broadcast due to microphone placement etc.
This is totally off topic, but can someone explain the appeal of the Jonas Brothers to me? I was once 16 so I know about boy bands, etc. However, usually the guys in the boy bands are very cute. Has anyone looked at the Jonas brothers? Not a cute one in the bunch. And they can’t sing either. I just don’t get it.
End of off topic rant.
Does anyone here have IO/ internet and Cable vision ?? You could help me watch the games!! right now i cant see any because I’m in a contract with dish and i didnt know they didn’t have YES. PLease help..
e-mail me at goddzz @ yahoo. com
You dont have anything to loose and will have helped a big yankee fan!
“”also, I know this guy in Nigeria who can make you rich fast, please send money order to…”"
That was uncalled for… I’m no scammer, nor do you have to pay a penny its just some small formality that the person who has the cable has to do…
David: It’d be illegal.
The thing that amazes me about Burnett is that he’s basically a two-pitch pitcher but I haven’t seen him have his good curveball his last 3 or 4 starts. Yet he STILL manages to get guys out.
David, get DirecTv. Problem solved.
I’m sorry, dude, but you signed a Dish Network contract. That bad’s on you.
Nice play Alex
great play by Alex
Laura, I dont get the appeal of the Jonas brothers either.
Nice play alex!
I swear these Rays announcers say things for the sake of saying them.
Absolute drivel.
David,
mlb.tv – it’s in HD and it’s just for 2 months
case solved
Laura -
I think right now they’re they only boy band in town.
That I can think of, anyway.
AJ Burnett is the best pitcher with the worst control in baseball…
Laura,
I’m a 17 year old girl and I don’t understand it either. When I was younger I used to love Backstreet Boys and N’Sync but those bands actually had some pretty good songs. I don’t think the Jonas brothers are especially attractive and their music is not good.
Josh Beckett through 6
79 pitches – 63 strikes, 16 balls
is that what they call “attacking the strikezone” ?
“You dont have anything to loose and will have helped a big yankee fan!”
Don’t like your chances. Someone here was nice enough to do that for people and a person changed their password on them. So yeah, there is something to lose. I wouldn’t do it.
I’ll take the Jonas Brothers over Stone Temple Pilots (Alice In Chains wannabes).
God, I hate STP.
Big reason I hate the red sox: Bandwagon fans.
exhibit 1) people with rays shirts and Bosox hats at Rays game
exhibit 2) guy on train yesterday wearing Mets t-shirt and sox hat.
“AJ Burnett is the best pitcher with the worst control in baseball…”
Haha that’s actually extremely accurate
Me three, Laura.
NKOTB they aren’t. LOL, I’m dating myself aren’t I?
Cano is on fire!
DONTCHA KNOW!!!
Yeahhh Cano! He’s on a hot streak.
that’s it Robi, jog
Cano is vindicated!
CANOHMYEFFINGOD!!!!!!!!
“I’m a 17 year old girl and I don’t understand it either. When I was younger I used to love Backstreet Boys and N’Sync but those bands actually had some pretty good songs. I don’t think the Jonas brothers are especially attractive and their music is not good.”
Thanks. I was worried that I was the only one who felt that way. You don’t remember them, but when I was your age, the big boy band was Duran Duran. They still perform today to much smaller crowds. Anyway, they were not only cute, but their songs were great. They still hold up today.
Cano can possibly win back to back player of the game awards.
Nice add on Robbie
DONCHA KNOW!
Nice Robbie
Hey guys did Cano run too slowly out of the box? I need to know this so I can decide whether to make fun of him or not.
Cano Crushed that.
the hard parts are out of the way for the cycle. go get ‘em, Robbie.
SWISH BABY!!!
HOLY MOSES!!!
Back to back!
Two bombs in a row!!
THAT WAS A BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMBBB
Cano can possibly win back to back player of the game awards.
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Speaking of back to back.
Oh my, that was Swishalicious!
Swishalicous
BACK TO BACK AND BELLY TO BELLY!
that was simply….. CRUSHED!!!!
wow, did that just happen? I thoroughly enjoy this team
MY FAULT….SWISHER CRUSHEDDDDDDDDD THAT!
Swish says “Take that, Robbie”
can they do a repeat of the back to back to back?
Where’s the “work the count” crowd beating up on Cano for first pitch hacking?
Swishy!
4-pitch walk followed by a 1st-pitch homer. Two nice at bats!
“NKOTB they aren’t. LOL, I’m dating myself aren’t I?”
You are dating you and me.
light. tower. power.
That looked like my 5 iron.
Ok….maybe not my 5 iron, but somebody hits one like that.
Here’s a clue….it ain’t Randy.
Robbie with a walk, hitting in RISP, and homer in the same game?
Who’s this guy in Robbie’s shirt, where’s the real Robbie, and what has Cashman done with him?
Oh please, we all know that the right field at the Trop is an absolute joke. That would be a pop-up in old Yankee Stadium
Nice work by Swisher and Cano. They’re hitting Shields early in the count tonight.
Would Swisher’s shot have been in the upper deck in NYS?
LOL Duran Duran.. I’m in good company with my NKOTB reference then.
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
Robbie has a kruk in his neck.
anudda low one
Two towering shots. Great HRs.
jeter…man…you are such a good hitter…my goodness…
If Swisher gets anywhere near his April uber-hotness watch the hell out American League. One crazy sick lineup.
can y’all feel it? we are in a zone right now…
“Josh Beckett through 6
79 pitches – 63 strikes, 16 balls
is that what they call “attacking the strikezone” ?”
What’s amazing is that 4 of those 16 balls came in one AB as he has in fact issued a walk today.
Johnny how about #200?
I know its been buggin ya.
NKOTB they aren’t. LOL, I’m dating myself aren’t I?
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I was in love with Joey. Those blue eyes. Sigh
“jeter…man…you are such a good hitter…my goodness…”
This will make your day. The TB announcers were saying that the reason Jeter is having a great season is because of the new stadium. They said that he’ll bat .320 as long as he’s hitting there. Let them tell it, Jeter isn’t getting hits on the road. That’s quite a feat.
This inning reminds me of the scene from the will smith movie Independence Day where he opens the alien spacecraft, punches and knocks out the alien saying “Welcome to Earth!”
:: WHAM :: Welcome to the AL East!
Menudo.
the lack of a 3rd even league average pitch is what keeps AJ from truly being top 5 SP in the league that and his “sliging” delivery which give him his command issues…if his delivery was truer and more repeatable he’d have consistant command and control of his curve and he’d consistently be unhittable…but he is what he is…his fastball is overpowering enough to almost dominate even the best lineups with that alone and when then curve is working…goodnite sweetheart well it’s time to go….
“Robbie has a kruk in his neck.”
A John Kruk?
That’s one giant pain in the neck.
“Menudo.”
Wow. Forgot about them. That’s where Ricky Martin got his start.
Laura – Aaron is right! Rose belongs in the Hall! July 27th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
“jeter…man…you are such a good hitter…my goodness…”
This will make your day. The TB announcers were saying that the reason Jeter is having a great season is because of the new stadium. They said that he’ll bat .320 as long as he’s hitting there.
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Jeter is hitting 2 points higher on the road this year.
“A John Kruk?
That’s one giant pain in the neck.”
I didn’t know how to spell it. LOL!
Laura – Aaron is right! Rose belongs in the Hall!
July 27th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
“jeter…man…you are such a good hitter…my goodness…”
This will make your day. The TB announcers were saying that the reason Jeter is having a great season is because of the new stadium. They said that he’ll bat .320 as long as he’s hitting there. Let them tell it, Jeter isn’t getting hits on the road. That’s quite a feat.
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Stattz and McGFrane would be better off trying to explain what two nobodies like Bartlett and Zobrist are taking.
Ever since AJ made the comment regarding “greatness”, he’s been lights out. He has to go 7 today.
Would you consider the Beatles a boy band???
champ
You can dominate without a third pitch if your two pitches are dominant. Randy J, for example. It’s rare but do-able.
***MaGrane***
My favorite team since ‘98.
There, I said it.
Would love to see Alex go deep…Cano hit for the cycle
Alex needs a hit on his birthday.
Why isin’t anyone mentioning that Giambi is hitting .190 and on the DL? Just because he is a nice guy?
Patrick the Prospect Hugger July 27th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Hey guys did Cano run too slowly out of the box? I need to know this so I can decide whether to make fun of him or not.
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never said Cano couldn’t hit but he does tend not to play at full speed at all times
Why isin’t anyone mentioning that Giambi is hitting .190 and on the DL? Just because he is a nice guy?
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Probably because no one cares about what’s going on with him now?
Swish will def have something funny to say about his hr.
“Would you consider the Beatles a boy band???”
No, only because both girls and boys liked them. Boy bands tend to have huge female followings. Everybody followed the Beatles.
Is it true that Angel Berroa played in the major leagues before the infield fly rule was enacted?
This is a kinda random question. Does anyone know what the deal is when the Yankees are in Tampa? I assume a lot of them have homes in that area, are they allowed to go there or do they have to stay with the team?
Doreen,
how dare you!
If A.J. had 3 plus pitches and no mechanical issues he’d be getting CC money.
I’ll take this A.J. AND CC
was DeWaynne Statts fired by the Yankees? Constant cheap shots from him and his color guy on the Tampa feed
“are they allowed to go there or do they have to stay with the team?”
Next year, they’ll ALL be staying at Jeter’s Marriott resort.
This whole not having Michael Kay thing is amazing.
jpb1973 July 27th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Is it true that Angel Berroa played in the major leagues before the infield fly rule was enacted?
He came up with the rule after he let a ball drop to double up a player.
ARod seems to be in a bit of a slump. Is something wrong with his swing?
Jeter Splits – 2009
Home: 200 9 .320 .401 .495 .896
Away: 183 2 .322 .395 .415 .810
So YS has definitely helped Derek’s HR numbers (and SLG), but his BA and OPS are pretty consistent.
Two games in a row that this happens. Come on, Posada!
Burnett’s ERA is down to 3.59
considering it was 5.40 early in the season…
perty good
I think the Yanks fired Dewayne’s hair piece. Unfortunately for him, he was still attached.
That’s the third time that has happened to Posada in past 2 months.
thats a legitimate bad job by posada there….that could really hurt if this was a closer game…hopefully it wont
Well, early Beatles really had all those crazy teenager girls (my older cousin was one of them) and they were all over those fan magazines. I know later Beatles definitely was not, and the Rolling Stones never were. But I think EARLY Beatles, just off the plane on Ed Sullivan Beatles, might could be considered a “boy band.” Their two movies were themed around trying to avoid all the girl fans (especially “A Hard Day’s Night”).
AJ almost at 100 pitches.
The Beatles a boy band???? Greatest, most influential rock band in history a boy band? I need a drink.
Too many third are being dropped the past few weeks.
Can’t open the door to this team.
“But I think EARLY Beatles, just off the plane on Ed Sullivan Beatles, might could be considered a “boy band.” ”
I agree. But in the end, their music allowed them to overcome that label.
That’s a costly, costly passed ball by Posada.
Argh, that strikeout was a killer. Now the big boppers are up and Burnett’s pitch count is rising to 100.
He must get out of this inning with no more than 2 runs given up.
posada’s passed balls need to be worked on. way too many recently…could be the dog days of summer effecting his concentration…
I liked Donnie, SA.
should have been 3 outs
I’ll trade a run for a DP.
i’ll take it
never been happier to trade a run for 2 outs in my life
Yes DP! Burnett should be out of the inning but I’ll take it.
why shouldn’t longoria get an RBI? i think that’s a stupid rule…he brought in a run, period.
“never said Cano couldn’t hit but he does tend not to play at full speed at all times”
FYI Cano is 2 for 3 with 2 RBI and a walk today. Why are you criticizing him? Are you retarded?
I think SO!
“That’s a costly, costly passed ball by Posada.”
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really? two “costlys” ?
I think it might have been costly but you lost me at costly, costly.
I think Burnett can start the 7th inning.
That’s how you do it Allan James Burnett
Beatles are NOT a boy band.
dang, burnett looking like a superstar these days…
do you send AJ out for the 7th at 105 pitches?
“why shouldn’t longoria get an RBI? i think that’s a stupid rule…he brought in a run, period.”
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kinda like stealing a base on fielders indifference.
the Yanks will let the run score in exchange for the 2 outs.
Nice, nice job A.J.
The Beatles did have crazy psycho girl fans.
Just like the girls who go crazy over Robert Pattinson nowadays. I swear its Beatlemania revisited when I see how hysterical they get around him, lol.
The DP helps but, you hate giving up a run in that fashion.
Great job by AJ maintaining his composure.
Need more runs and AJ needs go complete 7.
Random Question:
What’s better… A player batting:
1) .320 20HR
2) .300 30HR
3) .280 40HR
“why shouldn’t longoria get an RBI? i think that’s a stupid rule…he brought in a run, period.”
I think it’s because with a DP, you may drive in a run, but you also make an additional out. They want to penalize you for that, thus no RBI on a DP.
Laura -
Yes. Thank goodness.
I just wanted to be a bit of a trouble maker.
“3) .280 40HR”
You know what they say? Chicks dig the long ball.
“I just wanted to be a bit of a trouble maker.”
I’ve heard that about you.
It would be nice to get an insurance run or two and enter Melancon/Robertson territory.
Laura – Aaron is right! Rose belongs in the Hall!
July 27th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
“NKOTB they aren’t. LOL, I’m dating myself aren’t I?”
You are dating you and me.
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This September I finally got to see NKOTB in concert. I don’t care that it was 20 years too late!!!
Is it just me or has AJ had a decent amount of dropped strike-threes this year that ended up allowing the runner to reach…
i have all the respect in the world for the Beatles but she loves you could have been done by NKOTB, NSYNC or any other boy band
Random Question:
What’s better… A player batting:
1) .320 20HR
2) .300 30HR
3) .280 40HR
what are the respective OBPs? can’t answer without knowing OBP!
“Just like the girls who go crazy over Robert Pattinson nowadays. ”
Not sure what that’s about. He’s not that good looking either. I guess I just like baseball players.
Yeah, I’m talking about Markakis. Deal with it.
Uncle Ellsworth
July 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Beatles are NOT a boy band.
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The Beatles were NOT a Boy Band. But they unwittingly set the prototype for every boy band that followed
Random answer.
Whichever has the best glove in the field.
“Is it just me or has AJ had a decent amount of dropped strike-threes this year that ended up allowing the runner to reach…”
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I think so – but I think a majority of them were on sick curveballs that were deemed wild pitches and not passed balls.
Uncle E – I think the Beatles were the original, the blueprint for the boy band. But as Laura said, they fortunately overcame that label, because their music was far too sophisticated and they fought being pigeon-holed.
“i have all the respect in the world for the Beatles but she loves you could have been done by NKOTB, NSYNC or any other boy band”
You are selling John and Paul short. They wrote their own stuff. NKOTB, NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys were lucky if they could write the alphabet.
One thing the Yankees need to do the rest of this game is to try and raise the pitch counts of the Rays relievers.
They have been pitching a lot lately and you want to keep wearing them down.
“Need more runs and AJ needs go complete 7.”
Haha what? Why? Pretty sure the bullpen can hold onto a 4 run lead against a offensively slumping rays team. THere is zero need to overwork AJ right now
I refuse to believe that Posada is that slow
“I think so – but I think a majority of them were on sick curveballs that were deemed wild pitches and not passed balls.”
Yeah that’s probably true. I guess it comes with the territory when you have a pitcher like A.J. Burnett who can be effectively wild (or just plain wild).
You know your team is doing well when you are more exited about watching your team pitch than watching them hit.
“I refuse to believe that Posada is that slow”
Sorry carl, but the eyes don’t lie.
“I refuse to believe that Posada is that slow”
I was at the one blemish on the 9-1 road trip. I couldn’t believe it then myself… Gotta love Jorge though.
Stop the presses, Cano walked twice in one game.
Cano was way too lackadaisical on that trot to first. Get your head in the game robbie, jeez what a dope!
“One thing the Yankees need to do the rest of this game is to try and raise the pitch counts of the Rays relievers.
They have been pitching a lot lately and you want to keep wearing them down.”
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ahh, flashbacks to the Yankees of a few years ago – Sheffield, Giambi, Abreu, Posada…
excited not exited
When Cano got to first base, Carlos Pena said to him “I can’t believe that you walked again. You feeling alright?”
C’mon Swish, have a night!
stupid ump expanded the zone
Laura -
The Beatles did a lot of covers and unoriginal stuff at first. The more they wrote their own, the more sophisticated the music became. The less they imitated, the better they got. But even the first few original songs were very “bubble gum.”
Glad the Yankees are winning so far. Not too many cowbells. More runs would be good.
“Cano was way too lackadaisical on that trot to first. Get your head in the game robbie, jeez what a dope!”
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they need to change one of the seven deadly sins to “Cano”
Cano should steal a base
“You know your team is doing well when you are more exited about watching your team pitch than watching them hit.”
Great call. Another good sign is when Mo says he thinks this team is “better” than those late 90s teams and Paul O’Neil says this is the first team in a few years that reminds him of those late 90s teams that expect to win every day. I think it’s awesome that AJ has gotten his act together. Many pitchers have trouble adjusting to NY, few can get over the hump. He’s obviously not there yet but things are looking good.
The Ghost
July 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
You know your team is doing well when you are more exited about watching your team pitch than watching them hit.
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You know your team is doing well when you are discussing boy bands instead of defending against trolls and bridge jumpers
Erica
The Beatles were NOT a Boy Band. But they unwittingly set the prototype for every boy band that followed.
Doreen
July 27th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Uncle E – I think the Beatles were the original, the blueprint for the boy band. But as Laura said, they fortunately overcame that label, because their music was far too sophisticated and they fought being pigeon-holed
There Was no Boy Band label back then.
They were not “made up” band, they wrote their own songs and played instruments and did not dance.
Erica Yes they did influence Boy Bands but they influenced everything.
“But even the first few original songs were very “bubble gum.”
Perhaps, but they still hold up today. “I Want To Hold Your Hand” could come on the radio and you’d still tap your feet and shake your head.
Who is faster Cano or Arod?
“Who is faster Cano or Arod?”
Is that a joke?
With all the talk about Pete Rose today I wondered what sort of pace Jeter was on compared to Rose’s record for career hits. It turns out that Jeter is slightly ahead of Rose. Of course Rose played until he was 45. We’ll have to see if Jeter wants to hang around that long.
I’d say A-Rod no question, maybe I’m wrong.
some people wear superman pajamas when they go to bed…superman wears aj burnett pajamas…
““I Want To Hold Your Hand” could come on the radio and you’d still tap your feet and shake your head.”
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I would even tap my feet to the german version “komm gib mir deine hand”
best ever
Even with a bum hip, Alex is faster than Robbie.
Critical inning for A.J.
The 1st sign of trouble gets the bullpen in action.
Ok are we done insulting the Beatles?
Please say “yes”
Jeter with the range
Hey guys
Just back from my last dinner in Philly – how’s my boy AJ doing? Just reading from Pete’s summary, he’s doing fine…..
SJ, does it seem to you as if AJ’s strikeouts are down this year? It doesn’t concern me in the least because we’ve seen him K guys in big spots -also, it may be a function of him just trying to be a pitcher and not a thrower.
“some people wear superman pajamas when they go to bed…superman wears aj burnett pajamas…”
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well then chuck norris wears derek jeter pajamas
great play Jete!
what a play by jeter!
to the left to the left……
Less innings the pen has to work, the better.
AJ has another 15-20 pitches in him. I bring him out for the 7th.
Just about every College & University in the Western World’s Music Department has a class devoted to the Music of The Beatles…….Their entire body of work was done in less than 7 years……It takes U2, Springsteen that long just to release a new album……
Nice play by Jeter on a hard hit ball.
nice jeter!
When I was driving home tonight John & Suzy were having a very deep conversation about what a person should get A-Rod for his birthday. (He is the guy who has everything)
What would YOU buy A-Rod for his birthday?
Who’s faster Posada or a three-toed sloth?
Once the Beatles release Rubber Soul, that’s where they kinda left the planet and into the realm of people like Beethoven and Charlie Parker.
Wow Alex with the cannon. Tex with the stretch
nice arod!…lucky pat was running
Albaledejo warming up, just to make sure Mo gets a save opportunity tonight.
ready, aim, fire
cannon from ARod
Thank god that was Burrell running.
Boston Dave 2.0
July 27th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
““I Want To Hold Your Hand” could come on the radio and you’d still tap your feet and shake your head.”
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I would even tap my feet to the german version “komm gib mir deine hand”
best ever
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Dude, I was JUST singing along with that yesterday morning. We were blasting Past Master Volume One at the Beach
Sweet night for our Yankees.
With respect to this game and my second-tier interest I have both good news and bad news. The good news is that I have Burnett on my fantasy team! The bad news is that I also have Shields…
DRAT!
when a person jumps in the water, they get wet.
when arod jumps in the water, the water gets aroded.
“Ok are we done insulting the Beatles?
Please say “yes””
Nobody is insulting the Beatles. The fact that girls screamed and cried over them doesn’t take away from all that they accomplished. It’s been 40 years and people are still talking about them and listening to them. That’s saying something.
“What would YOU buy A-Rod for his birthday?”
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a time machine
Trisha – It’s ok I have Manny Ramirez on my team. That 50 gamer sure sucked!
“Krystal July 27th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
This is a kinda random question. Does anyone know what the deal is when the Yankees are in Tampa? I assume a lot of them have homes in that area, are they allowed to go there or do they have to stay with the team?”
I’m not positive, but I’m assuming the guys w/ their main home there just go to their house….so I would guess Jeter would not be staying at the team hotel
good game so far but it feels like the Yanks should be up by more, some missed opportunities to blow it open giving the Rays some hope
Why would anyone want to listen to those boy bands do any songs?
Doreen, with all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about as far as Beatles go. They were the first to write their own music, and taught the Rolling Stones to do the same. First album was 95% original songs (”Meet the Beatles”). They mixed in some Chuck Berry, but very little. Yes, I am that old, regrettably.
“What would YOU buy A-Rod for his birthday?”
A magic wand that would allow him to travel back in time and change some things that need changing…if you know what I mean.
Someone needs to tell Kay John Rodriguez is on the DL. Therefore not an option.
I would Get Alex The Complete Beatles Boxed Set. I bet he does not have it.
“Dude, I was JUST singing along with that yesterday morning. We were blasting Past Master Volume One at the Beach”
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NICE!
Talking Beatles while watching the Yanks easing through this game. I just need a white russian and my night is complete.
Great outing by AJ
great job AJ
AJ is a beast!
Burnett was outstanding today. 7 ip, 0 ER and he allowed just 4 baserunners.
Dave July 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Trisha – It’s ok I have Manny Ramirez on my team. That 50 gamer sure sucked!
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I picked up Juan Pierre as soon as Manny got busted. It was great while it lasted.
Betsy,
his strikeouts are fine. He’s using his two seamer more and that pitch is more of a contact pitch for him.
Great, great job by AJ tonight. Exactly the type of performance you want from your starter at the start of an important series.
Up to the bullpen to get 6 outs now.
j-rod was taken off the DL today.
“Why would anyone want to listen to those boy bands do any songs?”
Why ones, m? I know you aren’t talking about Duran Duran. Them be fightin’ words.
I’d buy Alex a Bolle sunglass collection.
why ones = which ones
Sensational job by A.J. Be interesting to see who they bring out for the 8th.
The difference in the team defense this year is just remarkable.
They’ve gone from an awful defensive team last year to an average to slightly above average defensive team. And that makes such a big difference.
The right side of the infield might be the best defensive right side in all of baseball. Tex and Cano have been wonderful out there.
Alex looked awful defensively when he first came up but has really played well since his hip loosened up.
And what can you say about Jeter. After so many conversations about “the Jeter question” and how he had to be moved off of SS he’s gone on to have a strong defensive SS and cement himself as the best two way SS in the AL.
It’s really remarkable that the defensive could be so much better than it was last year.
AJ Burnett – 3.53 ERA and dropping fast
who was it that said he was the next Carl Pavano? could it be….. NESPN?
Great start by AJ. He has backed up his pie making with good pitching.
Laura,
No, Duran Duran was a man band. :O
Laura – Aaron is right! Rose belongs in the Hall!
July 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
“Ok are we done insulting the Beatles?
Please say “yes””
Nobody is insulting the Beatles. The fact that girls screamed and cried over them doesn’t take away from all that they accomplished. It’s been 40 years and people are still talking about them and listening to them. That’s saying something.
Laura I may be overreacting. But the very fact that there is a discussion over whether the Beatles are a boy band offends my delicate sensibilites.
insert smily face
I have a question if anyone cares to answer it. Which is a better Yankee book – Buster Olney’s “The Last Night of the Yankee Dynasty” or Joe Torre’s “The Yankee Years” ? I really loved them both.
“The difference in the team defense this year is just remarkable.
They’ve gone from an awful defensive team last year to an average to slightly above average defensive team. And that makes such a big difference.”
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please refer to this defense as an “all-time record setting defense” from now on
a fantastic job by burnett today…remember when so many people hated him…now they love him
“I have a question if anyone cares to answer it. Which is a better Yankee book – Buster Olney’s “The Last Night of the Yankee Dynasty” or Joe Torre’s “The Yankee Years” ? I really loved them both.”
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they both last about 2 minutes in the fireplace
“Albaledejo warming up, just to make sure Mo gets a save opportunity tonight.”
lol
“It’s really remarkable that the defensive could be so much better than it was last year.”
I think – no, I know that the addition of Tex has made them better. He picks up their mistakes. And they probably feel more comfortable throwing over there, knowing that he’s going to pick it. If you are constantly throwing over to a guy that’s all thumbs, you may press and try to make too perfect a throw.
Erica,
Gas for his private jet. Fuel costs for a G-IV is a b%#%@.
“j-rod was taken off the DL today”
Either way they need another CF not another corner outfielder.
“a fantastic job by burnett today…remember when so many people hated him…now they love him”
I didn’t hate him. I was disappointed with his performance. Not anymore.
The time machine is well played.
“I’d buy Alex a Bolle sunglass collection.”
Future’s so bright, gotta wear shades.
Cano’s line so far
Cano 2B, 2AB/2R/2H/2RoBI/2BB
Uncle E -
I didn’t meant to insult the Beatles, just thought it would be an interesting discussion. The Beatles defy categorization.
And I don’t think it’s an insult to say that at first they were marketed towards teenage girls. Heck, John Lennon was not allowed to say he was married. I use the term “boy band” in quotes specifically because they were not like the bands that followed that appealed mostly to young girls.
So, AJ was able to get through a full 7. Does Girardi send him out there to start the 8th???
Yeah, AJ! I wish I was at home so I could watch it, but I’ll have to have someone tape it for me.
SJ, thanks. I like that he’s using the two-seamer as it means he can get quicker outs. At this point, he doesn’t have to show off his K rates to anyone. I’m VERY impressed with AJ – he continues to give us 7 innings on a regular basis and quality innings to boot. He seems to be a different pitcher now – not only am I glad for him and for the Yankees, but also because I love sticking it to Jays fans (who really hate the Yankees and who told us basically that AJ was going to stink this year and that he’d be a miserable personality).
Oh brother, Kate Hudson is in the stands. She’s traveling with the band, like the groupie she played in “Almost Famous”.
““I have a question if anyone cares to answer it. Which is a better Yankee book – Buster Olney’s “The Last Night of the Yankee Dynasty” or Joe Torre’s “The Yankee Years” ? I really loved them both.””
Have you read ‘Birth of a Dynasty’. I think Joel Sherman penned that one. I like it best of all.
“Laura I may be overreacting. But the very fact that there is a discussion over whether the Beatles are a boy band offends my delicate sensibilites.
insert smily face”
Here ya go!
Doreen,
he’s at 114 pitches so I highly doubt it
he pitched a gem though
Melky! Jetah! wooo!
“No, Duran Duran was a man band. :O”
Funny, m.
Jeter has the best placed hits.
Rock and Rollers that sang, wrote and arranged their own songs? Buddy Holly says “Hello” from Heaven.
“Have you read ‘Birth of a Dynasty’. I think Joel Sherman penned that one. I like it best of all.”
No I haven’t. Thanks for the tip I’ll definitely check it out. One particularly memorable part of Olney’s book was how he said Pettitte was giving away his pitches in the 2001 world series when he got rocked in that game. Torre’s book unexpectedly (for me at least) detailed so much about the organizational-side of the Yanks/Sox rivalry, and just the game in general. Not for everyone but I liked them both.
wow, 3.53 ERA? That’s pretty darn good…….
Man, I hope the pen doesn’t blow this game. Who’s available tonight? None of our reliable arms except Mo, right?
I missed the conversation, but both the Beatles and Duran Duran rock. I grew up with Duran Duran – had a major crush on John Taylor (the one who played the bass, not the other one)
Irish Johnny
July 27th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Oh brother, Kate Hudson is in the stands. She’s traveling with the band, like the groupie she played in “Almost Famous”.
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And the name of that groupie was Penny Lane. A Beatles song. BAM!
It all comes together!
Doreen its all cool. Its one of my button topics.
I’m mellow now.
Back to some baseball news here. Our Charleston Riverdogs got no-hit tonight, a combined no-hitter, by the West Virginia Power, as they lost 4-0.
Except for one error, the Riverdogs would have been perfect gamed.
It was Hunter Strickland and Diego Moreno who no hit the Riverdogs.
Here is the link from the Riverdogs website.
http://www.riverdogs.com/dogs/.....rtcode=afx
“I missed the conversation, but both the Beatles and Duran Duran rock. I grew up with Duran Duran – had a major crush on John Taylor (the one who played the bass, not the other one)”
I’m a Simon LeBon woman myself.
Tex has changed the entire defensive mindset, IMO.
The rest of the infield has no concerns about making throws because they know he will catch everything.
You just wish these guys were a tad better in situational hitting spots. They sometimes lose chances to add on in games because of that weakness.
CB, You can make a case that the Yankee infield may be awarded Gold Gloves this November……
I still stand behind my Jeter for MVP calls.
He is on pace for:
.325, 210 hits, 106 runs, 18HR, 72RBI, 30 steals, 32 2b, .400 OBP, formidable defense at SS
not too shabby for a leadoff hitter
A-Rod baby!!!
AROD!!!
A hit for his birthday!
nice.
happy birthday, alex.
Almost a hr for his bday!
A pair of RBI’s for your birthday. Priceless
Great way to start the series.
Yanks look good.
Yeah, Arod! Now get Melancon to pitch the 8th.
Happy Birthday, Alex!
happy bday…albaladejo and melancon come on down
I’d buy A-Rod a 2-run double.
Oops, too late.
They show K-Hud every time Alex is up. Ridiculous.
Big,big hit for the birthday boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like Arod just demonstrated! LOL
And the name of that groupie was Penny Lane. A Beatles song. BAM!
It all comes together!
“BAM” Emeril on Centerstage. Born in Fall River Mass. Red sox Fan. Made M Kay eat mayonaise so he’s cool.
Loves the Beatles (ok made that up)
I know it is a little late, but I just watched the Omar/Rubin videos and all I can say is…WOW.
To think that you are one of 30 GMs and you call out a reporter at a press conference to fire your player development guy, who wanted to fight a AA player.
Every expert and most fans hated the AJ signing. Al Leiter loved it because he knew AJ and believed in his transformation, but basically he was a lone voice. It’s turned out better than we could have expected as AJ has handled the transition to NY extremely smoothly…
“It’s turned out better than we could have expected as AJ has handled the transition to NY extremely smoothly…”
I think that players who want to win it all are going to be happy on winning teams, regardless of the pressure. But watch him when he’s not pitching. You can tell that he likes being a Yankee.
I’m happy Alex got a hit on his birthday, would have been nicer if it was a hr but can’t be too greedy.
I saw the Minaya/Rubin exchange and I felt uncomfortable watching it, very odd.
SJ44
July 27th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Tex has changed the entire defensive mindset, IMO.
The rest of the infield has no concerns about making throws because they know he will catch everything.
You just wish these guys were a tad better in situational hitting spots. They sometimes lose chances to add on in games because of that weakness.
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He definately helps allow Cano to play a step or two closer to 2nd and Kelleher has worked wonders with Jeter’s positioning and taking that side armed flip away. Somebody has worked with Rodriguez on the popups, too, because he looks smoother and more confident on them.
“Every expert and most fans hated the AJ signing.”
The Yankee players wanted him so that was good enough for me.
Albie in the 8th.
Melancon already has enough rest
GB
just catching up, I believe Texeira is a rule 5 candidate next year. Good numbers, possible trade bait?
One of the best parts of this game has been the fact that AJ was able to get through 7 innings despite throwing a lot of pitches early and the Rays have had to go to their pen early.
Now with those extra runs they can afford to turn the game over to albie, etc. and avoid using Mo and Bruney.
Scott Kazmir throws for them tomorrow. He never goes deep into games and has been awful this year.
The yanks salt away this game and this series looks very good. CC on the hill. The Rays needing to use their pen early in a loss. And the yankees able to hardly use their pen at all.
Not because she is a celebrity, because she’s the youngest person ever to attend a Rays game.
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LOL Pete
One: Who’s Kate hudson?
Two: Where’s Mark “The Beast” Melancon?
Laura, Simon was like Paul McCartney – the cute one. I liked him fine, but I tend to prefer brunettes… What’s your favorite Duran Duran song? I really love them all, but I admit I love Hungry Like a Wolf……
Greatest line ever…”promoted”
“I covered the Mets before I was promoted to the Yankees.”
“The yanks salt away this game and this series looks very good. CC on the hill. The Rays needing to use their pen early in a loss. And the yankees able to hardly use their pen at all.”
What is it that they say? Pitching and defense wins ballgames? They’re right.
Who in the 9th?
Yanks need to be patient w/ Kazmir tommorow, he’s had problems finding the strike zone the last few years, this series is off to a good start
Just trade Melancon already since you don’t want to use him GI Joe. This is just f….. ridiculous
Tarheelyank
July 27th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
GB
just catching up, I believe Texeira is a rule 5 candidate next year. Good numbers, possible trade bait?
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Could be….or they trade Albaladejo or Robertson and keep Texeira.
“Every expert and most fans hated the AJ signing.”
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that’s partly to blame for the anti-Yankee media telling everyone that AJ was an injury waiting to happen that only pitched well in contract years and would never last in the pressure cooker of Yankee Stadium.
CB, are you surprised by AJ? I would think he’s a surprise to most Yankee fans…..he’s really given us innings and has been able to work through his control issues most of the time.
If you can’t tell, I’m very happy tonight, lol
Sort of amazing that Albaladejo would walk the number 9 hitter before Upton comes up.
Really amazing.
“I picked up Juan Pierre as soon as Manny got busted. It was great while it lasted.”
Did the same thing and yeah it was a great deal! My team is now a revolving door. I tend to look at the hottest hand for FAs and add them until they go cold. I have several dependable position players but the rest are good to above average – which is not enough when you’re in 8th place.
lol alby
“Laura, Simon was like Paul McCartney – the cute one. I liked him fine, but I tend to prefer brunettes… What’s your favorite Duran Duran song? I really love them all, but I admit I love Hungry Like a Wolf……”
That’s a tough one, but if I was stranded on a desert island and could only take one DD song with me, it would be “Come Undone”.
Why is he walking someone with a 7 run lead?
What the heck? The bags are rigged!
6 run lead excuse me
Can they send Melancon down? I understand Joe can’t use him in tight situations, but he never uses him.
I’m going to assume Melancon for the 9th. Otherwise send him to Scranton.
what the?
That looked like that hurt.
can’t believe how bad Albaladejo is after last season when he seemed decent before getting hurt.
“Who in the 9th?”?
At this rate, Mo.
“Why is he walking someone with a 7 run lead?”
If they can’t pitch Mark Melancon w/ a 6 run lead then trade his ass, stop wasting his time and ours.
6 run lead and Albie walks the #9, gives up a run and now hits Longoria.
Get him before he turns this into a game.
no need for Mariano
just get Alby out of there
Send Albalaterrible back to Scranton
Crap — why Albondigas? — are they trying to loss this game… What a disaster…
Come on, Albie. It would be terrible to have to go to Mo after a 7-1 lead in the 8th inning.
Get this bum out NOW
wow – albie sucks eggs.
Get Alby out of there. NOW.
Alby is pitching like he’s in the Red Sox pen and they have a 9 run lead against Baltimore
Robertson in a big spot? is This a Joke
That’ll be $2.50 for the cup of coffee Albie.
Albi…what is this May???
Isn’t this the reason why he sent down?
I think Albie is gonig down to make room for the OF they need.
Disappointing. I thought, after the leadoff K, that he had it together. Mo having to get up in this game seals Albie’s fate, however.
Man, this would have been a nice night to give Mo a rest.
Good thing we got those tack on runs.
Albaladejo for a bag of balls
best trade Cashman will ever make.
So much for Melancon EVER pitching…send him down at this point…whats the point of using his roster spot up, he hasnt pitched in 2 weeks…
Some are finally realizing Albaladejo is not a good reliever. I rather have Melancon and please could he pitch him? Girardi is treating him like he did Robertson earlier in the year.
BD, there are still fans out there making an AJ injury pool…..and if you read Joel Sherman’s blog from yesterday, he makes a snide comment (while making his point about the Yankees needing pitching) asking what happens if AJ suddenly remembers that he’s injury prone and mediocre (or something like that). This from a guy who, after his Toronto start at home, was raving about AJ. The fact is, AJ hasn’t had one ache or pain this year. Whatever he’s learned from Doc, he seems to have learned it well…
can we trade albie for a box of half eaten cookies?
It’s time for them to cut the cord on the Albaladejo experience.
No more.
This is part of the problem with Melancon never getting a chance to pitch.
You’d hope that he’d at least have enough experience at this point in the season to be a better option in a 7-1 game than Albaladejo.
Omg Fernando Tatis just hit a grandslam for the Mets.
Just brutal….Walking the 9th hitter is a dagger into the lead…..
Albaladejo, isn’t that Spanish for “next train to Scranton?”
Wow, Tatis just hit a Grand Slam for the Mets. Omar’s nonsense has energized the team. LOL!
4th homerun tonight at that bandbox called citi field…
?????????????
I mean Albaladejo was pitching like he had something better to do…what a bum!
I must have missed when
Albaladejo was the better option to pitch there. Srsly the Yankees w/ thier kids in the BP, I still want to know how is it 13-14 DAYS ! of Melancon doing nothing but watching, this reminds me how Green Tea Joe treated Edwar Ramirez w/ the 14 day hiatus.
“can we trade albie for a box of half eaten cookies?”
cookies everywhere take offense to that.
Robertson’s time to shine.
“Every expert and most fans hated the AJ signing”
While I didn’t really get that at all about the AJ signing (not saying it isn’t the case, just saying I didn’t pick up those signals) I can say that this fan was elated!
HP Ump is long on patience tonight.
This is interesting…Robertson is a pitcher that does either three things: walk, HR, or strikeout. Problem is, Pena is a hitter who always does one of those three things as well.
Let’s up it’s a K!
He almost blew a 7 run lead in Detroit doing the same thing he did tonight.
You can’t use the guy unless you are up or down 10 runs.
Gonna gave to use Mo to win this one.
Hopefully, Albie is gone tomorrow. Scranton awaits.
BIG OUT!!!!!
they’re at least half eaten…
pat July 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
HP Ump is long on patience tonight.
He knows he sucks
He saved the yankees bacon
HUGE strikeout there!! HUGE!!!!
I hate when we give away runs in games yanks dominate
Nice curve Dave.
“Have you read ‘Birth of a Dynasty’. I think Joel Sherman penned that one. I like it best of all.”
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I saw this in borders last week and finished it in 3 days. Really great read. Made me teary.
Dave Robertson really has a great curve ball. If he could ever get his walk total down he’d be such a valuable guy out of the pen.
No more albaladejo. He’s horrible. They really need to stop having him be the guy they bring up from Scranton.
why not bring in Melacon or Robertson to start the inning??
Oh great- what’s the score now? Bringing in Robertson – ick, I don’t like him at all anymore. This is what happens when you go all out to win a game like yesterdays…the dreck of the pen is all we have available (except for Mo).
“BD, there are still fans out there making an AJ injury pool…..and if you read Joel Sherman’s blog from yesterday, he makes a snide comment”
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I guess hating on the Yanks is good for business.
even if AJ’s ERA is now almost the same as Josh Beckett’s (and Beckett had his share of injuries early in his career too)
I wish one of the reporters (that’s you, Pete) would ask Girardi why he never uses Melancon. Are they saving him for one of those games where we are winning 15-3? He may have a long wait.
This is a night you would have liked to have avoided using Mo.
That’s not possible now unless they tack on more runs.
If you can’t pitch in 7-1 games, you are useless and have no business being on the roster.
Nice job by Robertson cleaning up Albie’s mess.
Can Robbie walk 3 times in the same game?
“Dave Robertson really has a great curve ball. If he could ever get his walk total down he’d be such a valuable guy out of the pen.”
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great command on both of the two he threw… Pena didn’t stand a chance.
Being from Scranton, we look forward to your return Jonathan.
I’m waiting for the Centerstage when Michael Kay interviews himself.
I know one thing, that will be Michael Kay’s all-time favorite Centerstage.
Betsy what’s your problem with Robertson? Did he kill your dog or something?
If David Robertson can reign in his walk rate, between that curveball and the cutting action on a low-90s fastball, that’s a good and reliable 7th or 8th inning setup man right there. His minor league numbers are ridiculous. He’ll never dominate like that in the majors, but he has strikeout stuff, if in a different way than Bruney.
lol, wasn’t there a poster who wanted Albaladejo up instead or Robertson?
Now you see why Albie is referred to as an “AAA” arm. Can’t pitch him unless it is a blowout.
“This is a night you would have liked to have avoided using Mo.
That’s not possible now unless they tack on more runs.”
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well, it is possible. I don’t think they need Mo with a 4 run lead. But Girardi has shown he doesn’t take ANY chances.
Robertson has shown 10x more than Albaladejo
Pete, do me a favor and ask GI Joe if Melancon pissed in his coffee.
Swish is the man
That’s a big if, CB. Do you know of any pitchers that were able to get a handle on their control? I hope there are some examples for Robertson to follow…I do think he’s talented, but I don’t trust him.
Wow, two dingers from Swisher. I guess I have to stop making fun of him now.
WHAT A CATCH!!!
Wow- April flashbacks for Swisher
swish pulled his hands in on that and JERKED IT!
i said that.
Why does Mo have to be used? Can’t they just got with Robinson and hope?
Wow. Major props to both swish and robbie tonight.
Damn. Swish waited almost a month between homers 14 and 15, now less than three innings between 15 and 16. If Swish and A-Rod get hot, this lineup will be pretty unstoppable.
Marte looks like he’s may be getting close to being ready to come back. He was touching 93 in his last outing in AAA.
Getting him back would be a huge boost.
The yankees functionally have a 5-6 man pen as melancon is dead weight out there as the 7nth guy. It’s clear that Girardi has no intention of using him unless the team is on the wrong side of a blow out.
They get Marte back and at least they can end the charade and send Melancon down and get back to a 7 man pen.
That’s a big HR by Nick.
I take a shot now and see if Robertson can finish this game.
Giving Mo tonight off can pay dividends the rest of this series.
“That’s a big if, CB. Do you know of any pitchers that were able to get a handle on their control? I hope there are some examples for Robertson to follow…I do think he’s talented, but I don’t trust him.”
There was one game where Robertson pitched like he was scared. He even said so after the game. Since then, he hasn’t been too bad.
Anyone else feeling flashbacks from our last visit to the Trop?
That was back in April when Burnett was dominant, Robbie and Swisher were hot, and Albaladejo was in the bullpen.
melancon can pitch the ninth…let him joe!
i would let swisher pitch the 9th…
Dude’s like mid 40’s bringing a glove to the game.
That’s a bit soft.
“Why does Mo have to be used? Can’t they just got with Robinson and hope?”
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agreed.
not many teams use their closer in a 4 run game unless they really need work.
Girardi needs to give guys a chance (albeit on a short leash)
Melky’s bat temperature is rising!
Dude just hit 2 grandslams for the nationals.
Right, Trevor – Robertson has been lights out for us, he’s so reliable. What are you talking about? If you’ve been happy with his performance, that’s your business. He was god-awful in Minnesota and Anaheim…….I guess he did a good job tonight? Good for him – I’m happy, I’d like to see more of that.
What’s the score now?
Josh Willingham
I don’t know what, but I kept hoping Albaladejo would work out. He had several nice outings last season, got hurt. But he’s been very disappointing almost every outing this season. Can’t take a chance using him anymore. They have to give the ball to Melancon or get him back to Scranton to pitch.
Partly the problem is the Yankees playing a lot of close games, but you gotta take a chance sometime. Right? But then, you have to try to actually win each game.
Melky’s picked a very good time for one of his hot streaks. The difference is the patience he’s shown; he’s not just taking good hacks, but also working the count and laying off borderline pitches.
He’s been wildly up and down, but I think that this season we’re seeing glimpses of what he could be as he gets older. A pretty solid center fielder or one of the better 4th outfielders in the game.
“Marte looks like he’s may be getting close to being ready to come back. He was touching 93 in his last outing in AAA.”
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Christmas in August…
Marte is probably as good as any of the guys the Yankees have been thinking of adding at the trade deadline (aside from the Streets and Bells of the league)
Ken Singleton is the man
Grats on 200 Damon!!!
“Do you know of any pitchers that were able to get a handle on their control?”
AJ Burnett.
There have been many pitchers who have had to tackle the problem of control at the major league level.
You can get away with it in the minors but you can’t in the majors and the pitchers who survive are the ones who can adjust.
It’s unclear what side of the ledger Robertson will fall out on.
200!
and so is Damon
200 for Damon!
HOLY MOLY…saves some of these for tomorrow guys…
Haha now we’re just pouring it on.
damon does what he does.
wasa wasa
Okay, now you can let Melancon pitch.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
200
HAHHAAHAHAH Yankees win
Can we please put Melancon in now
Could we see Melancon now?
I swear I was thinking that would happen when they walked Jeter. YAY DAMON!!!
I just got back from a David Cook concert…..11-3…..sweet
there is an upside for Melancon, he’ll get to dress up like Dorothy from Wizard of Oz or some other such degrading get up when they haze the rookies.
Wait, maybe that’s not such an ‘upside’.
I love it when the intentional walks fail! Great job, Johnny!! Congrats on 200th HR! =)
#200!!!!!
fork it over ball boy
Now Mo definitely has the rest of the night off.
Nice, Johnny!!!
They want to win every game, don’t they?
Johnny’s been so cold…this will heat him up!
I hate milestones. Mo’s 500th was one of the easiest.
Shouldn’t have walked to get to Johnny!
I gag everytime I hear Sterling’s HR call for Swisher.
ok, can we use melancon now
Where is Erica? She missed her PB’s historic HR.
If this isnt a big enough lead for Melancon to pitch in, I will seriously not understand Joe Girardi.
HEY JOE – Ya think maybe you can trust Melancon with an eight run lead?
Ya think?
Is he even up?
PUT HIM IN!!!!!!!!!
Can Melancon pitch now?
New Yankee Stadium is such a band box. Whiffle ball park. Ridiculous. The yankees have hit how many cheap home runs tonight? It’s the only reason the team hits for so much power.
thanks for the hottie shot, YES.
she was CUTE.
Robertson has been 100 times better than Albaladejo.
Yeah, he had a rough series in Anaheim, so did everyone.
maybe the wind tunnel just follows the Yanks wherever they go?
Yeah, Mike – that was me. So what? You’re going to go ga-ga over one outing by Robertson? Neither of them are very good….
If Marte is healthy, I think he can help us…..hopefully he can provide a lift. On nights where both Phils/Bruney are not available, we have to have someone we can go to……
Can’t remember when it was, but I’m having flashbacks of Damon slugging a grand slam to blow open a game just like this at the Trop.
“RS July 27th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Anyone else feeling flashbacks from our last visit to the Trop?
That was back in April when Burnett was dominant, Robbie and Swisher were hot, and Albaladejo was in the bullpen.”
yeah I was at that game, very similar performance by AJ….Robbie and Swish both had great games that day also…..ha kind of identical team performances….the Yanks look very comfortable at the Trop today:)
will Girardi put Melancon in now?
can we put the whole “yankees only hit HR’s in the bandbox” to rest now
“Robertson has been 100 times better than Albaladejo.”
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I don’t know about 100. Maybe 2 and 1/2.
Does Girardi even know who Melancon is?
And the rust continues to build up on Melancon’s arm.
he threw the #200 ball back onto the field.
idiot.
What a moron – the fan who caught Damon’s 200th HR ball and threw it back.
Nice job!
“will Girardi put Melancon in now?”
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or just leave Robertson in.
I think Melancon should be back in AAA anyway.
Betsy Robertson has been pretty good this year. Every reliever has bad outings. And BTW he cleaned up Albaladejo’s mess. Oh yeah a guy you loved out of ST. If I recall right.
Congrats to Johnny D on his 200th!
If Melancon is really headed down soon, it makes sense to pitch Robertson and start re-establishing him as a reliable guy out of the pen.
Hey Pete can you ask Joe G. what’s going on with Melancon. This is ridiculous to make the kid rot for 2+ weeks. I love Joe but this is sad.
“# Boston Dave 2.0 July 27th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
maybe the wind tunnel just follows the Yanks wherever they go?
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yeah was in the car listening to rays radio on the way home from dinner and it’s like they don’t give credit to any of the Yanks HR numbers b/c they play in NYS “which is a joke”…well they saw the power this Yankee team has, it’s not just the ballpark, plenty of power 1-9 on this team
“And the rust continues to build up on Melancon’s arm.”
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well, on the bright side he hasn’t had a chance to walk any more hitters.
AJ who, CB? LOL – well, Robertson is talented and I don’t want to give up on him. I just think he needs to be kept to low leverage situations for now……
The Yanks worked the Rays’ pen tonite. 75 pitches.
Nope, he hasnt a clue. Someone needs to ask Girardi about this. It is ridiculous having the guy on the team.
At least Melancon is getting paid some good money for these few weeks he will be here, despite pitching in only one game over 2 weeks ago.
“melancon can pitch the ninth…let him joe!”
No can do, see Melancon embarrassed his precious Bruney in Anaheim eversince that it’s been riding the pine. SRSLY IT’S FREAKING RIDICULOUS…Jonathan Alba who is a AAAA player at best is getting the 6 run defecit call!!
oh finally! joe does know who mark is
If I ever caught a ball I would never throw it back, regardless of who hit it. It really is dumb to throw it back. It’s a great souvenir, fool!
liked the first Nick Swisher HR.
MOONSHOT
Thank god for the insurance runs.
Laura – Aaron is right! Rose belongs in the Hall!
July 27th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Where is Erica? She missed her PB’s historic HR.
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I saw it!!! I am here!!!!!
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome!!!
Getting back Marte would be huge. It deepens the pen by adding a guy who us fresh and has succeeded at the ML level.
Just have to hope Robertson can get 3 outs.
Do you think Burrell knew a 3-2 fastball was coming?
For God’s sake what do you need – a 20-3 lead for Melancon?
Meanwhile, say see ya to Alba -la – DFA.
whoops
Well, at least it wasn’t a walk…
Like I said, Robertson does one of three things in just about every AB.
Strikeout, walk, HR. We’ve already seen two of the three tongight.
“If Melancon is really headed down soon, it makes sense to pitch Robertson and start re-establishing him as a reliable guy out of the pen”
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Thanks alot for jinxing him Ross. boo!