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Yankees looking at relievers

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 27, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees appear to be focusing in on relievers as the trade deadline approaches. By beefing up the bullpen, this would enable them to transition Alfredo Aceves to the rotation if the need arises.

Given that Sergio Mitre has allowed 17 hits over 10.2 innings, there’s a good chance that need will arise. Names that have come up: Scott Downs, Heath Bell and John Grabow, The Yankees are not involved in the Roy Halladay chase. But, of course, that could change.

Meanwhile, the Mets have canned controversial team exec Tony Bernazard, News conference within the hour. Bernazard is the guy who challenged a minor-league team to a fight. Or as Shelley Duncan would have called it, the greatest day ever.

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345 Responses to “Yankees looking at relievers”

  1. Kevin S. July 27th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    In what world does it make sense to transition Aceves back instead of Hughes?

  2. Erica - always OPPC July 27th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    35 minutes to send in your submissions for “Guess the Line Up”. Here is who is in so far:

    Andrew, Bill, BBFan, Patrick the Prospect Hugger (same)
    Dan
    IDCWYT
    Hokiehill
    Miggs, Andrew33, Largo (same)
    NYY626, CT23 (same)

  3. gayle July 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    The problem I have with the whole bernazard thing is you cannot tell me that Omar didn’t know this is how he operated. Reports like this have been talked about for years when it comes to Bernazard. Omar allowed this behavior to happen and it was only until the press really reported on it that he took any action.

    Ask Willie Randolph about Bernazard he wont say anything because he is too classy but reports on their relationship and the actions of TB were reported on last year.

  4. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus July 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    “In what world does it make sense to transition Aceves back instead of Hughes?”

    Because at this point it will take less time to stretch Aceves out and time is a very, very precious commodity.

  5. McG July 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    later Bernazrd you spizz!

  6. Bret the Hitman July 27th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Heath Bell:

    –An NL official said not to believe that San Diego closer Heath Bell is only available at an exorbitant price. “I think the Padres realize that this is the moment when you can get your best deal for (Bell). He gets expensive next year, and there is no reason to have an expensive closer on a bad team.”

    The Yankees are among the teams that have been interested in Bell. The addition of Bell would allow the Yanks to more comfortably move either Alfredo Aceves and/or Phil HughesPhil Hughes into the rotation if an injury struck the Yanks’ suddenly thin rotation.

    http://blogs.nypost.com/sports.....halla.html

    Aceves could move into the rotation or Hughes can move in a trade for a top of the line starter.

  7. Hokiehill July 27th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    “In what world does it make sense to transition Aceves back instead of Hughes?”

    (Movie preview voice guys says…) “In a world where Phil Hughes has been the most dominant reliever in baseball this season…”

  8. Andrew July 27th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Aceves is apparently “more stretched out” than Hughes, plus at this point Hughes is the shut down “8th inning guy” so taking him out of the bullpen would mess up not only the role he’s gotten accustomed to this year, but the bullpen. Getting another big league reliever like Downs or Bell or Grabow gives you late inning options of Bruney, New Guy, Coke, Hughes and Rivera.

    Add that in with the possibility that Marte will come back and be able to get lefties out in needed situations, and the Yankees would still have a great bullpen and Aceves could help them stay the course while Joba’s innings are kept at bay.

  9. SJ44 July 27th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    They aren’t transitioning Hughes in season for two reasons:

    1. It would take longer to do it than Aceves and Aceves is older, and more experienced when it comes to handling wear and tear on his arm.

    2. Hughes has been so effective as the 8th inning option, they aren’t willing to mess with that for him to be a 5th starter.

    It ain’t that hard to figure out.

  10. James July 27th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    hokiehill, you funny my man.

  11. Hokiehill July 27th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    I said I know, everybody funny…now you funny too!

  12. Noreaster July 27th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    I’ve got to think that it makes sense to move Hughes to the starting rotation for the end of August when Joba starts to run into his innings limit. Hughes can pick up the extra innings he needs for next year and will give the Yankees maximum flexibility for the post season.

    My only question is, and not being a pitching coach I wouldn’t know, will this type of move BP to SP put him at risk?

  13. Jim July 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    SS Jeter
    LF Damon
    1B Teixeira
    3B Rodriguez
    DH Matsui
    C Posada
    RF Hinske
    2B Cano
    CF Cabrera

  14. SJ44 July 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    As far as all this trade talk, its really a waste of time.

    If you read every rumor today, nobody has said anything new.

    Everybody wants Cliff Lee, Victor Martinez, and Roy Halladay and don’t want to give up anything to get them.

    Meaning, they won’t get them.

    The next level guys like Jarrod Washburn, Heath Bell, John Grabow, etc, are guys whose GM’s will look to extract a prize that exceeds their talent.

    Until the 31st, everybody is still posturing and trying to appease their fan bases by saying they want to do something “big”.

    In terms of actual news, there hasn’t been anything new in the last few days.

  15. Erica - always OPPC July 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Hokiehill-

    Nice George Thorogood reference!

  16. L to the 2nd July 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Fred to Omar:

    “It’s either you or Bernazard”

    Case closed. “Investigation” over.

    Captain Karma strikes again.

  17. Justin July 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Anyone know the name of the song Swish has been using as he comes to bat? I went to the game last Wednesday and it has been in my head since.

  18. Noreaster July 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    SJ44, the problem is that when Joba goes back to the pen (re: innings limit) we are talking about a number 3 starter which will be needed in the post season. No?

  19. Bret the Hitman July 27th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    SJ don’t be a party pooper. Trade talk is fun. The prospect of adding a new player is always exciting. Even if it doesn’t happen, it’s fun to discuss but I agree about your take on the posturing that’s going on.

  20. caNO he didnt July 27th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    I would say Hughes should go to the rotation and get more experience there which he will need for next season.I also think he will do better there with his new confidence and having pitched well in his last few starts before going to the pen. Yanks should get Bell who is sick and could be the shut down 8th inning guy that Hughes was, and aceves can still be the good reliever he is.

  21. NO HYPE July 27th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Jeter
    Damon
    Tex
    Roid
    Matsui
    Swish
    Cano
    Cabrera
    Molina

  22. Jim July 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Erica
    Did you get my lineup submission?

  23. Hokiehill July 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    “My only question is, and not being a pitching coach I wouldn’t know, will this type of move BP to SP put him at risk?”

    Some would suggest this was not good for Jobamania…

  24. Laura - Let's stop the TB running game! July 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Jeter
    Damon
    Tex
    ARod
    Posada
    Matsui
    Cano
    Swisher
    Melky

  25. Erica - always OPPC July 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    No Hype-

    Positions please. And it’s uncool to mock A-Rod like that during a funfilled game of “Guess the Line Up”

  26. Erica - always OPPC July 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Jim-

    Yes, you are good

    Laura-

    Positions please!

  27. Bret the Hitman July 27th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    If the Yanks get Bell and Aceves remains in the pen while they stretch out Hughes, Joba’s innings are easier to limit. Many of them can be covered by Hughes while he’s transitioning and Aceves while he remains in the pen. Both will be pitching multiple innings or at can do so while Bell handles the late game situations.

    If Hughes transitions back into the rotation successfully, he is your Game 4 starter and Pettitte takes Game 3.

  28. CC is My Boy July 27th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Justin
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
    Anyone know the name of the song Swish has been using as he comes to bat? I went to the game last Wednesday and it has been in my head since.

    when i went to see yankee game about a month ago he was using teh song turn my swag on by soujia boy idk if it has changed from that time

  29. caNO he didnt July 27th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    good point that when Joba reaches his innings limit he will go to the pen and start mowing down batters with a 98mph fastball. I say with this info Hughes would be more valuable a starter than aceves.

  30. Hokiehill July 27th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    No one knows who will get traded to who, what the lineup will actually be, what targets Cashman is looking at, who will get the call up from AAA… so no discussing anything as it will be pointless and your discussion will have no effect on what really happens. Since that’s out of the way Pete can now shut down the comments section of Lohud. Thanks and have a good day.

  31. NO HYPE July 27th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1B
    Rod 3B
    Matsui DH
    Swish RF
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera CF
    Molina C

    :)

  32. NYY626 July 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Justin
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
    Anyone know the name of the song Swish has been using as he comes to bat? I went to the game last Wednesday and it has been in my head since.
    ____________________________________________________________
    I went to the first game after the ASB and I’m pretty sure one of his songs was “save a horse ride a cowboy”, which cracked me up for a few minutes.

  33. Bill from NJ July 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    What about Chad Qualls?

    I wouldn’t touch Scott Downs right now.. guy is in a serious funk.

  34. Chris July 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Mitre has a BABIP over .400, and is getting 60% ground balls. If you want someone to blame for all those hits, look at the infield defense.

  35. murphydog July 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Willie Randolph is smiling wherever he is today; Bernazard got his comeuppance. Working in an organization like that, with guys like Bernazard able to wield the knife… Willie, my brother, it’s better not to work at all than to work there.

  36. caNO he didnt July 27th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    swish used a phil collins song when i saw him haha

  37. Bret the Hitman July 27th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    your discussion will have no effect on what really happens.

    Darn I was hoping Cashman was taking notes when we post.

  38. Laura - Let's stop the TB running game! July 27th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    “Laura-

    Positions please!”

    Don’t you know what position everyone plays? What kind of Yankee fan are you? :P

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1B
    ARod 3B
    Posada C
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Melky CF

  39. ADam July 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    It would be dumb to trade any of our prospects for any of the guys named above. If they want to ship a few scrubs thats fine but no one like McCallister/Melancon/Kontos/D-Rob/ ect…

  40. CountryClub July 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    The infield difference has been good. yes, Mitre has gotten a lot of grounders. But they were all placed properly. It’s not like they were just out of reach of Cano or Jeter. Those things happen when you have an extrme groundball pitcher.

    But you also get a lot of double plays. In 5 innings yesterday he picked up 3 of them.

    Those are the pros and cons of a sinker ball pitcher.

  41. henner July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    jeter 6
    damon 7
    tex 3
    alex 5
    matsui x
    posada 2
    cano 4
    swisher 9
    cabrera 8

  42. Erica - always OPPC July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Haha Laura,

    Of course I know. But if Joe Girardi gets creative and decides to put MPB Johnny Damon on CF and Melky in LF we could have chaos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    (Not to mention riots across the LoHud board)

    No Hype-
    Thanks. We are good :-)

  43. Justin July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    NYY626

    “Save a Horse Ride” is the one! Thanks!

  44. Laura - Let's stop the TB running game! July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    “No one knows who will get traded to who, what the lineup will actually be, what targets Cashman is looking at, who will get the call up from AAA… so no discussing anything as it will be pointless and your discussion will have no effect on what really happens. Since that’s out of the way Pete can now shut down the comments section of Lohud. Thanks and have a good day.”

    LOL!!!

  45. CountryClub July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    defense…not difference

  46. SJ44 July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    The Yankees have said numerous times they aren’t moving Hughes out of the bullpen this year. After what happened to Joba last year, I don’t see the Yankees making the same mistake with Hughes this year.

    As far as Joba and his innings limit, let’s see how they play it in the next month. Andy Pettitte is certainly capable of being a third starter in the playoffs.

    He’s got more experience, and more playoff wins, than any pitcher everyone wants to bring in here to start.

    I’d like to get to the playoffs first before worrying about who is going to pitch Game 3.

  47. m July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    1:04pm: ESPN.com’s Buster Olney hears that dialogue between the Phillies and Blue Jays has become :mad: as they discuss prospects.

    1:48pm: A high-ranking official involved in talks between the Jays and Phillies tells Heyman there’s a 5% chance a deal happens. Neither side seems willing to modify its proposal, but that could change before Friday.

    ————————————-

    JP has to move Doc now. The winning bidder would have an ace for 2 pennant races.

  48. Uncle Ellsworth July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    caNO he didnt
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    swish used a phil collins song when i saw him haha
    against all odds?

  49. Vince July 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Meantime, John Henry’s wallet is taking a hit and he may be instructing his GM to hold the line on adding salaries.

    After 10 seasons Dewalt set to leave Roush

    It is always sad when we see long time sponsors leave the teams they have been associated with, or leave the NASCAR all together. Dewalt has been the primary sponsor, or one of the primary sponsors of Matt Kenseth’s #17 Roush Fenway team since Matt’s rookie season of 2000.

  50. MG July 27th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    if Joba keeps throwing the way he has in his two starts since the ASB you know the Yankees want him in the rotation for the playoffs.

    As a #3 starter he could pitch 5 times total if every series went the limit but a more likely maximum number is 4, that’s 25-30 innings maximum.

    The #4 starter doesn’t get lots of innings come playoff time, no more than 1 start per series. That means he throws a maximum of 3 starts or about 20 innings in the post season. There is no #5 starter, of course, in the playoffs.

    The Yankees, of course, know this and I’m sure want a Joba throwing 96 mph in the 7th inning in the rotation and will do whatever is necessary to see that happen.

  51. Hokiehill July 27th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Mitre has done what’s been asked of him and better than Joba or Pettitte were doing with the 5 spot prior to the break. If he’s the worst we’re going to get out of the rotation, then I imagine we’ll be in pretty good shape for the rest of the season.

  52. Laura - Let's stop the TB running game! July 27th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    “But if Joe Girardi gets creative and decides to put MPB Johnny Damon on CF and Melky in LF we could have chaos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:”

    If Girardi puts Damon in CF, I’m going to have my psychiatrist examine him. :P

  53. Pat M.... July 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Ido not understand why so many think that Phil Hughes is going back to the rotation…He will when Spring Training rolls around in Feb. 2010……They are not going to screw around with the bullpen, it’s a strength for the club….Man everyday this comes up….The Yanks are closing in on 6 innings starts and then the door is shut…..

  54. Laura - Let's stop the TB running game! July 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    “swish used a phil collins song when i saw him haha against all odds?”

    After he strikes out, they play “Take Me Home”. :P

  55. Andrew July 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    ADam D-Rob and Kontos are more valuable in trades than they ever will be to the Yankees themselves. Melancon and McAllister I agree I would be more hesitant to move in a trade, but those other two guys are as expendable as they come–if a team wants them and you are going to get back a quality major league pitcher, it’s a go. However, I may be wrong but didn’t Kontos get Tommy John surgery? If so he is going nowhere.

  56. john_halfz July 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Chris:

    What is that supposed to mean? What can you infer from BABIP from two starts? Mitre was awful against a bad lineup and he got bailed out in the 4th because Robinson Cano’s hands are ridiculously quick.

    Maybe more of those grounders find fielders if he pitches a few more times. But he looked bad against an almost impossibly putrid lineup. Five of the nine hits were solid line drives. He got unlucky on Suzuki’s infield hit in the first.

    You might have meant that his luck should change. But you’re misunderstanding BABIP if you think you can attribute high BABIP in a tiny sample size to bad fielding.

  57. S.A.--Relax, Relate, Release July 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Two reasons the Mets rid themselves of Tony Bernazard:

    1. They were concerned that his conduct would be such a continuing story that it would detract from their need to concentrate on re-tooling the team for next year.

    2. They were concerned that no matter how thorough their investigation that if new information leaked about further bad behavior by Bernazard, it would make them look inept while also continuing to draw focus away from improving the product on the field.

    http://blogs.nypost.com/sports.....for_b.html

    :?

  58. Joe July 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Can tell you, Heath Bell is NOT a good fit for NY. When he was a dime a dozen RP with the Mets, it was easy to overlook his shenannigans, but he WILL run his mouth as he always does and alienate teamates like he always does. Not a Yankees fan, but if you value your team and the chemistry Swisher, Burnett, et al have brought this year, LEAVE HEATH ALONE.

  59. Joe Torre July 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    J Damon CF
    D Jeter SS
    B Abreu RF
    G Sheffield 1B
    H Matsui DH
    J Posada C
    R Cano 2B
    A Rodriguez 3B
    M Cabrera LF

  60. Tom B July 27th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    joba only has to skip 3 starts between now and the end of the year to match his innings limit. he will skip a few more than that so he can pitch in the playoffs.

    they will not move joba to the pen for the playoffs. after throwing 150 innings every 5 days, you don’t come out and pitch every other day for 3 weeks and blow out your arm.

  61. BDave 2.0 July 27th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    vince,

    you have a source on that? (henry’s finances and specifically the possibility that he may pull in the reigns on addtl spending)

    thanks.

  62. ed July 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Bad karma for the Mets ever since they got rid of Willie !

  63. caNO he didnt July 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    if i remember correctly it was in the air tonight, but it sounded like it could have been remixed a bit. i think he used 2 diff songs that night though and at the time his twitter said he was looking for new songs

  64. SJ44 July 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    George Kontos recently had TJ Surgery and is out for a year. He has no trade value.

  65. Hokiehill July 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    “Chris:

    What is that supposed to mean? What can you infer from BABIP from two starts? Mitre was awful against a bad lineup and he got bailed out in the 4th because Robinson Cano’s hands are ridiculously quick.

    Maybe more of those grounders find fielders if he pitches a few more times. But he looked bad against an almost impossibly putrid lineup. Five of the nine hits were solid line drives. He got unlucky on Suzuki’s infield hit in the first.

    You might have meant that his luck should change. But you’re misunderstanding BABIP if you think you can attribute high BABIP in a tiny sample size to bad fielding.”

    The sample size is equally small for determining that Mitre won’t cut it and we’ll need another starter down the road…he’s had 1 good start and 1 bad one, yet in both instances the Yankees have been in the game… Like I said above, if he’s the worst we can expect from our lineup, I like our chances.

  66. BDave 2.0 July 27th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    joba only has to skip 3 starts between now and the end of the year to match his innings limit. he will skip a few more than that so he can pitch in the playoffs.”

    ——

    true.

    however, joba might need to stop pitching so well :)

    if he goes 7 innings each time out he’ll need to miss more.

    still, it’s his pitch count that really matters and even though he was only throwing 5 innings for much of the season he was still throwing 100 pitches.

    but because the yanks are using innings and not pitches, joba should be able to stay in the rotation for the entire season if they can find a way to skip 4-5 starts.

  67. Noreaster July 27th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    MG/SJ, Problem is Joba is going to run out of innings before August is up. You have to figure on 5 more starts @ 6 innings each. That will leave 20 or so left as a reliever. Less starts will mean more innings as a reliever. If Mitre is not the guy, then we need 2 more starters to finish the year.

  68. Scott July 27th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Pete,

    you absolutely kill me sometimes. That line about S. Duncan “…the greatest day ever!” Still has me laughing.

    I can picture shelley crushing that dude like an ant.

    Keep up the good work.

  69. Erica - always OPPC July 27th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Game thread up

  70. Hokiehill July 27th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    “true.

    however, joba might need to stop pitching so well

    if he goes 7 innings each time out he’ll need to miss more.

    still, it’s his pitch count that really matters and even though he was only throwing 5 innings for much of the season he was still throwing 100 pitches.

    but because the yanks are using innings and not pitches, joba should be able to stay in the rotation for the entire season if they can find a way to skip 4-5 starts.”

    Barring a no-hitter, I can come up with no reason for Joba to pitch into the 8th inning if his innings limit is a concern. Did Girardi ever have a good explanation for that one?

  71. Noreaster July 27th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Joba is at 103 innings now, anybody want to guess his limit? 150-160?

  72. BDave 2.0 July 27th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Barring a no-hitter, I can come up with no reason for Joba to pitch into the 8th inning if his innings limit is a concern. Did Girardi ever have a good explanation for that one?”

    ——-

    nope… but it didn’t work anyway out so I hope Joe learned his lesson.

  73. A Mere 10 July 27th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    I don’t think the yankees should pursue very good relievers, like heath bell, because it can seriously come back to bite them in the a**. First, he will cost a lot. And I feel like he will fall apart in New york. This guy was a Met and he had over 5 era. Somehow, we have bad luck with acquiring relievers, and I don’t think it’s a good idea to mess with the bullpen. We should just pursue a 5th starter, like ducherer, and maybe an outfielder.

  74. GreenBeret7 July 27th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    It appears that the Yanks are stretching Kroenke out at Scranton. He had a 4 inning start today. Is he getting ready for a trade or a September callup? Kontos is going nowhere. He’s scheduled for elbow surgery. Also, they have been stretching out Trenton relief pitcher, Kanekoa Texeira with 6 straight starts.

  75. john_halfz July 27th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    I’m more than happy to give him another start though I wouldn’t argue that he pitched particularly well against Baltimore.

    Yesterday he allowed 11 separate runners to reach base. Nine on hits, one on an HBP, and one on a throwing error. He retired 12 batters (three of his outs came on DPs, including the Kennedy DP, which was ridiculous).

    In the Baltimore game, he allowed 9 runners and retired 15 batters.

    But until he really bombs it, I’m more than happy to let him pitch. I’m just saying don’t be surprised when you look up and his ERA is still around 6.

  76. Pel July 27th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    GAME :arrow: THREAD

  77. Bronx Jeers July 27th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    “Or as Shelley Duncan would have called it, the greatest day ever.”

    If only Shelley was there…..

    TB might have gotten his clock cleaned.

    Seriously I’m surprised the Mets fired him. Thought they would have promoted him.

    That’s how they seem to roll.

    With Joba nearing his limit, I’m not loving Ace and Mitre getting all those starts. Neither has pitched a big game in their careers.

    Veras and Ramirez tanking and Marte’s injury really screwed with the Hughes original plan and now they’re sort of walking the thin line with this rotation. It’s very good but 1 case of tendinitis away from being in trouble.

    Snell is intriguing.

  78. 86w183 July 27th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    It’s one thing to protect Joba, Hughes and Montero, but if you declare every decent prospect off limits you won’t get anything done.

    The Yankees now have a loaded bullpen with young arms that could set them up for years. That makes guys like Melancon, Robertson and Kroenke great bargaining chips.

    I agree with those who question Bell’s makeup… not sure he’d be a great fit. Also don’t see adding a reliever as the thing to do. My wish list would start with a good defensive RF who can hit followed by a starting pitcher.

    If they aren’t making a big move, then go get a Scott Hairston or similar to be a fifth OF. They cannot go forward with this OF for any length of time.

  79. rl1856 July 27th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    An effective Bruney and Marte will allow Aceves to go back into the rotation. Hughes stays put; unless he implodes he stays a reliever for the remainder of the season.

    Joba may bump up against his innings cap. What is more ominious is his drop in velocity before the AS break. His first start after the break was good and FB touched 97 late in the game….but that was after more than a week of rest. On the other hand, regular work out of the pen has allowed Hughes to add to his FB (sits at 95-96; occasionally touches 97) and sharpen his breaking pitches.

    I also think Melancon will be given other opportunities. He showed too much promise to be left riding the pine.

    Team would love to pick up a top line starter or releiver, but there are legitimate internal answers which will only enhance Cashman’s bargining position.

  80. Vince July 27th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    The NASCAR source you requested. It can only be assumed that Henry is concerned. That there hasn’t been any movement on signing Jason Bay is an indicator.

    http://www.roushfenway.com/sto.....-team-2010

  81. sevrox July 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Snell sucks.

  82. Chris in CT July 27th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    How about Russ Springer? He’s a veteran, threw pretty hard and looked good this past weekend, probably would come cheaply enough from Oakland….

  83. vinny-b (keep Montero) July 27th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    “George Kontos recently had TJ Surgery and is out for a year. He has no trade value”

    of all the injuries to players on the farm, this one bothered me the most. Kontos may well had been ready to make his mark in the bullpen for NYY (circa Joba 2007).

    a shame.

  84. jpb1973 July 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    It appears that the Yanks are stretching Kroenke out at Scranton. He had a 4 inning start today. Is he getting ready for a trade or a September callup? Kontos is going nowhere. He’s scheduled for elbow surgery. Also, they have been stretching out Trenton relief pitcher, Kanekoa Texeira with 6 straight starts.

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