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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 28, 2009 
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The Wonderful World of Nick Swisher finally hit a home run last night, his first since June 27 when he victimized Tim Redding of the Mets. Then he did it again in the ninth inning.
Swisher has 16 homers this season. Somehow, 13 have come on the road. Six are against the Rays and four have come at Tropicana Field.
So obviously, this spells doom for Scott Kazmir tonight. He, by the way, has a 6.99 ERA.
Back later with the lineups.
I like the part where he went to K Long yesterday and asked for some extra BP.
Any update on an Austin Jackson call-up?
PLEASE SWISH, leave you hair alone, why do it when we’re winning??????
You gotta love Swish. He has definitely contributed to the team and he enjoys the game. Yes he could field better and that average could use some propping up. But dang he is who he is and the Yanks are better off for that.
We got him for Wilson Betemit and a bag of balls. Not bad.
Any update on who is being called up tonight? Duncan? ajax? Pena?
Funniest line ever regarding the Mets debacle yesterday-
Extra points to Rubin’s headline crew for the Smokey reference above. There were actually a lot of amusing words written off Monday’s drama — at least for non-Mets fans — but the hands-down best were penned by Wallace Matthews, the always angry Newsday columnist. Here’s his lead:
“The Mets are the only organization in professional sports that can call a news conference to announce it has killed the Wicked Witch — and wind up running over Toto instead.
Matt- Its not going to be Jackson for sure. If they bring Duncan up they can’t send him back down because he is out of options. Most likely Pena.
“OK, SERIOUSLY, can we all PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop talking about Red Sox trades”
lets not.
the talk is more interesting then how many innings Girardi pitched Melancon this week.
Repost:
Rebecca-So you’re saying you don’t think they’re winning 100 games?
Pete said that if they don’t get major injuries they have a very good chance to do it.
Bad Pete!
I thought a new player was on they way.
“yes apparently being emotional while performing well is now called “showboating” and that will cause him to be unable to throw strikes…”
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good thing K-Rod didn’t know this when he set the record for saves last season… showboating all the way
Interesting blog post on why Halladay can only really go to the Phillies-
http://www.baseballdailydigest.....-leverage/
Isn’t great that we’replaying so well there’s nothing to talk about?
space between we’re and playing.
“You gotta love Swish. He has definitely contributed to the team and he enjoys the game”
Swish hit the prettiest homerun of the year, last night. MOONSHOT. Looked like a videogame HR
Wait: I’m saying that it’s possible, but not so sure how likely it is.
I think the team can do it, but the two more west coast trips and remaining games against the Red Sox rub me the wrong way.
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Question, if I did a live chat on my blog, would any of you be interested? Not today, but maybe in the next couple of days?
I believe Roy Hobbs could get Halladay!! I mean Jesus!! You know Montero! This kid is special. But he could be the centerpiece on Halladay & Rios. I believe the Yanks would have to toss in Pena, McAllister, Coke & someone else.
Rebecca-I see. I’m at the point of the winning streak where I just keep waiting for the carriage to turn back into a pumpkin, however briefly.
Unfortunately live chats don’t work on my computer.
Like I give a damn about Bam Bam Duncan…I hope it’s Curtis or Jackson who gets the call after this series.
I also got to read that Wallace Matthews article, missed some big LOLs
Montero just puts me at a loss for words…I mean, what a gift this kid has. He sure can whack around that baseball.
x-mas shopping time…
“The Mariners are shifting into “sell mode,” according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Jarrod Washburn is available and contending teams may be able to pry pitchers Mark Lowe, Sean White and Brandon Morrow away as well.”
sure rebecca, blog looks good… and updated
the idiot must be in Sarotoga on vacation this week.
Cowerd is better to listen to then Francessa. And he’s awful
I believe J Rod will be coming up today from SWB.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Wait: I’m saying that it’s possible, but not so sure how likely it is.
I think the team can do it, but the two more west coast trips and remaining games against the Red Sox rub me the wrong way.
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Question, if I did a live chat on my blog, would any of you be interested? Not today, but maybe in the next couple of days?
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Are you doing the talking and we send you questions? Not a telecom type chat, correct?
“I believe J Rod will be coming up today from SWB.”
he hasn’t even played the OF yet. He came back to DH.
GB7 you think Montero gets moved up to Scranton before the season is over?
“The Mariners are shifting into “sell mode,” according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Jarrod Washburn is available and contending teams may be able to pry pitchers Mark Lowe, Sean White and Brandon Morrow away as well.”
Felix Hernandez
“Jarrod Washburn is available and contending teams may be able to pry pitchers Mark Lowe, Sean White and Brandon Morrow away as well.””
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get Mark Lowe!!!
Not sure if this works, but, here’s a link to the Trenton game.
http://www.rider.edu/175_16702.htm
“Felix Hernandez ”
I’d trade Z-Mac/WDR/Jesus (sorry Rebecca
) for him.
L to the 2nd
July 28th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
GB7 you think Montero gets moved up to Scranton before the season is over?
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It’s possible that he moves up for the playoffs. As soon as the minor league season is over, I’d expect him to be brought up to NY to observe, get instructions and sit on the bench…but, not play.
Why would the Mariners trade Morrow??
I’d trade Montero for Felix.
But I’d be kicking myself while doing it.
LeBron to the Clippers?
“To the Clippers, who have qualified for “It’s all happening!” status a few times over the past few decades, only this time, it might stick. If you didn’t notice, they turned Zach Randolph into Blake Griffin and three quality bench guys… Now they have a killer under-22 foundation (Griffin and Eric Gordon, headed for a leap in Year 2), a fun team for this season (especially if Baron Davis and Marcus Camby are healthy) and a super-intriguing cap situation next summer (they’re under $35 million). This remains the best combination basketball/big city situation for LeBron James. It’s true.”
from ESPN’s Bill Simmons on Page 2
At odds in Beansville …..
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....criti.html
If Swisher hits 25 HR’s and keeps getting on base, he’ll have a great season here. His average is low and his fielding makes you long for Abreu at moments, but he’s doing a good job in RF for the most part and apparently is a big member of the club’s chemistry.
The fact that we got him for Betemit who is now in the Mets AAA team is unbelievable.
Betemit was turning out to be one of Cashman’s bigger mistakes. I know Proctor was used up, but Betemit brought the quality of play down so drastically when he was in the game it was hard to watch. He was literally one of the worst baseball players I have ever see at the major league level.
Swisher is a good piece on a team like this. He doesn’t have to carry the team. He just has to play well which he is doing for the most part.
The way Girardi was using him w/spotting Gardner and Melky was great.
Hopefully, Gardner gets back soon since I like the flexibility of having him in Melky in the OF at specific times. I think Girardi had a good handle on that.
“I’d trade Montero for Felix.”
anyone else besides Montero? Romine? =X
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY
July 28th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
“Felix Hernandez ”
I’d trade Z-Mac/WDR/Jesus (sorry Rebecca ) for him.
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Seattle will trade Suzuki before they trade Hernandez.
“I’d trade Montero for Felix.
But I’d be kicking myself while doing it.”
I’d do it and LMAO..King Felix in NYC = FUTURE DYNASTY
Wow Starbury is insane.
Anyone have some vaseline?
“Are you doing the talking and we send you questions? Not a telecom type chat, correct?”
That’d be the idea. Like what RAB does on Fridays.
So far maybe two people are interested, haha.
ESPN Indisder is reproting Ajax will get the call up
“Seattle will trade Suzuki before they trade Hernandez.”
true that…would Ichiro be a salary dump?
“Seattle will trade Suzuki before they trade Hernandez.”
I don’t give a damn about sushi, KING FELIX BABY!
“ESPN Indisder is reproting Ajax will get the call up”
proof?
Pete If SWISHER continues to perform like he did last night,he could go bald for all I care.Leave him ALONE.
Not buying into the Joba nonsense about a breakdown. Someone just needs to mentor & keep riding him to keep his focus – and quicken the pace of his pitching. He’ll be fine.
A guy I would worry about long term is Lincecum – saw him play in the Cape Cod BL in ’05 – little dude with violent delivery (a Pedro like frame) and a blowout waiting to happen – especially racking up all these innings so early.
The Dice K crap just all stems from those 200 pitch games over the years – no shock there.
Saratoga doesn’t open until tomorrow. Guess Francesa needed a few days to get aclimated. Regardless, I am sure he would have spent those days talking about how helpful Arroyo would be for this team and go on and on about the rumors which stated the Yanks were interested in acquiring him.
Rebecca, a live chat? sure i would be interested…are you trying to compete with RAB? lol…
“his fielding makes you long for Abreu at moments…”
NOOOOO…
Ed: Nah, just trying to procrastinate haha.
I love watching Linececum pitch.
The most underrated pitcher in baseball by far is Dan Haren, who should’ve started the ASG and is having an incredible season.
would you trade Jesus for Brandon Morrow?
Stephon Marbuery is officially off his rocker:
http://www.justin.tv/starburytv
Hilarious but at the same time really sad
All Insider says is that it’s POSSIBLE the Yankees call up Jackson.
That’s like saying it’s possible it might rain today.
Well, as long as I don’t have to talk, I’m in. As long as I’m awake. Might be my nappy time.
“Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald says the Red Sox are looking for a right-handed hitting fourth outfielder who plays good defense. He mentions Willie Bloomquist and Cody Ross as possible fits. ”
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wow – another sign that one of Boston and Epstein’s “genius” signings (Baldelli) that didn’t work out?
Epstein got lots of love for past moves. Will he take any blame for some failed moves this season???
Ed – almost to my quarter century life
July 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
“ESPN Indisder is reproting Ajax will get the call up”
proof?
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http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....s%2frumors
Need to be a member to get further
“That’s like saying it’s possible it might rain today.”
http://www.weather.com/outlook.....nav_garden
Not likely.
GB7 would you trade Jesus Montero for Brandon Morrow?
The rumblings have already started about Theo the Genius
Nancy Drew
Dice K ($102m)
Smoltz
Lugo
Gagne trade
“GB7 would you trade Jesus Montero for Brandon Morrow?:
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huh? would anybody?
GB: Okay.
I have the type of luck where I’d start it and get all of two people to show up, haha.
Live chat wouldn’t be bad at all, Rebecca. It will be fun to talk baseball live.
ESPN actually makes you PAY for the same stuff we do on this board – speculate? Nice work if you can get it.
Joe Girardi said the plan is for the Yankees to leave highly regarded centerfield prospect Austin Jackson in the minors, but he made it clear that could change.
With Brett Gardner out at least two weeks with a broken left thumb, the Yankees find themselves short in the outfield.
Girardi said Sunday that Jackson, 22, hitting .313 in 352 at-bats for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, would be better served playing every day, but he hedged before last night’s game.
“He’s young and it’s [coming up] not an everyday playing situation for him, and the development is important,” Girardi said. “But sometimes based on need, you have to do some things.”
Jackson, a righthanded hitter, has only four home runs and 39 RBIs in 93 games but has stolen 17 bases in 19 attempts.
A move with Jackson would be an attention-grabber, and it hasn’t been ruled out. “He’s playing very well in Triple-A,” Girardi said. “We do have some concerns about centerfield and we’ll talk about a lot of ideas.”
On Sunday, the Yankees brought up reliever Jonathan Albaladejo, who made the trip here. “Right now, we feel we need the pitching,” Girardi said yesterday. “We need the extra pitching because we have kind of a tired bullpen.”
But Girardi acknowledged that at some point, he might have a tired outfield. He has used Melky Cabrera in left to spell Johnny Damon, who has had some nagging ailments this season, but that option is gone with Gardner out and Cabrera now the everyday centerfielder.
“It concerns me in a sense because it was a way to get Johnny a break,” Girardi said. “And right now, we can’t necessarily do that.”
Ramiro Peña is an option. Girardi said the plan is for Peña, who started for the Yankees at second, third and shortstop earlier this year, to receive more playing time in the outfield this week for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
http://www.realgmbaseball.com/.....n_jackson/
You won’t put Montero in a trade for Halladay but trade him for Brandon FREAKING Morrow? Huh?
It’s not going to rain in NY today. The Yankees are playing in Tampa. I don’t hold out much hope for the people in Tampa not getting hit with a hurricane, though. My guess it happens with NY leading 15-0 with 2 outs in the bottom of the 5th and a flood washes away the the Trop.
Ed: At this point, I think Peña would be the better option. He has ML experience, you don’t have to burn an option and he’ll give you defense and speed on the bases.
I think the Yanks want him to have some more games at CF at the AAA level.
“The Mariners are shifting into “sell mode,” according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Jarrod Washburn is available and contending teams may be able to pry pitchers Mark Lowe, Sean White and Brandon Morrow away as well.
One rival official says the Mariners are “about ready to do some things” now that they’re 7.5 games out of a playoff spot and on a four game losing streak.”
Would you trade Jesus to Seattle for Morrow? this is almost like the RS deal w/ FLA if it happens, big upside bat for a possible top of the line SP.
“12:59pm: The rays have shopped Scott Kazmir to the Mets and Rangers, according to Joel Sherman. The Rangers turned down an offer from the Rays and the Mets just had initial interest. The Rays would consider dealing Kazmir, Carlos Pena and even Carl Crawford to free up enough salary to make a blockbuster deal for Martinez and Lee.
The Rays still have interest in Halladay.”
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MLBTR
Maybe Brandon is really Brandon Morrow.
“ESPN Indisder is reproting Ajax will get the call up”
No, it doesn’t. It says MIGHT call up, and attributes the story to Newsday. Here’s Newsday’s story…
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.1330627
This is pretty close to a sure win but only fools predict sure wins in baseball. I should know. I did when it was CC vs. Penny in the Red Sox series.
Still, CC vs. Kazmir is like David vs. Goliath w/o the slingshot.
And CC is Goliath.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY
July 28th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
GB7 would you trade Jesus Montero for Brandon Morrow?
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The way Morrow has been pitching this year, I wouldn’t trade Jesus Montero’s mother for him.
“Would you trade Jesus to Seattle for Morrow? this is almost like the RS deal w/ FLA if it happens, big upside bat for a possible top of the line SP.”
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except Beckett already had MLB success and a World Series MVP
Um, I wouldn’t put Morrow in Beckett’s league, would you?
“You won’t put Montero in a trade for Halladay but trade him for Brandon FREAKING Morrow? Huh?”
Yes. B/c Morrow is young and doesn’t require an obscene amount of money in the contract. Revisit Josh Beckett to Boston type deal.
Montero is 2-3 now, with a line drive single down the left field line.
No reason we shouldn’t win tonight. Kazmir has been awful, and our billion dollar ace is up.
And the bullpen is rested.
GB
I saw you made reference to Eddie Feigner last night. My dad played against Eddie’s team for a number of years.
He says he got a hit off him or at least that’s his story and he’s sticking to it.
Hanley worked out pretty well though, didn’t he?
Pretty well.
Better analogy would be Montero for King Felix
Who cares about money, no I would not trade Montero for Morrow.
“The way Morrow has been pitching this year, I wouldn’t trade Jesus Montero’s mother for him.”
Isn’t he transitioning into the starting rotation this yr. ? I guess he’s wild this year but would have to wonder, other than him I’d take a stab at King Felix.
this just in:
http://www.baseballtoday.com//.....ing_072809
It’s time for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”!
Please post your line-up submissions here (or any new threads) until 3:40 to see if you can be today’s winner!
Rebecca: Oh definitely. Pena is definitely used to sitting on the bench and isn’t an automatic out. Plus, Pena is ready to play when being call upon on.
Everybody thought Hanley was going to be a big deal – they were actually right this time.
But Beckett was already an established star pitcher by the time the trade was made – and they “threw in” Lowell for a salary dump. Go figure.
The Ghost of Dallas Green
July 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
this just in:
http://www.baseballtoday.com//.....ing_072809
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ROTF!!!! I knew this blog was powerful, but that is just amazing
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....id=5431145
hard to just look away at that.
When the Sox traded Hanley Ramirez, he was the #3 SS in baseball by BA – behind Jose Reyes and Brandon Phillips.
Montero is the #3 prospect in ALL of baseball.
pat
July 28th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
GB
I saw you made reference to Eddie Feigner last night. My dad played against Eddie’s team for a number of years.
He says he got a hit off him or at least that’s his story and he’s sticking to it.
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That’s quite an accomplishment, getting a hit off of Fast Eddie. He was amazing. Pitching from 2nd base, on his knees and blind folded. Over 900 no hitters with a four man team.
“Eddie Feigner (March 25, 1925 – February 9, 2007) was an American softball player. Feigner (pronounced FAY-ner) was born in Walla Walla, Washington as Myrle Vernon King. He first assembled his four-man team, known as “The King and His Court,” in 1946 and took on all comers, first in the Pacific Northwest and then around the country; Feigner retired from pitching after suffering a stroke in 2000 but continued to tour with his team, acting as emcee and telling stories while the team played. The King and His Court touring team played over ten thousand softball games in a hundred countries since the late 1940s and achieved widespread fame similar to that of the Harlem Globetrotters. Feigner’s meticulous records claim 9,743 victories, 141,517 strikeouts, 930 no-hitters and 238 perfect games. The Washington Post described him as “the greatest softball pitcher who ever lived.”
Montero ain’t going anywhere.
End of story.
Erica my lineup guess:
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
SS Jeter
LF Damon
1B Texeria
3B Arod
C Posada
DH Matsui
2B Cano
RF Swisher
CF Melky
SS Jeter
LF Damon
1B Texeria
3B Arod
C Posada
DH Matsui
2B Cano
RF Swisher
CF Melky
Hey maybe the Mets can dredge up “the other Zambrano” and send him back to TB to get Kazmir back…
Not exactly a Steve Phillips shining moment (or was it Jim Duquette)?
…the Yankees became the first of the 30 Major League clubs to surpass one million registered users for free newsletters and alerts — including exclusive ticketing opportunities — via its official Web site, Yankees.com.
An official announcement was made Tuesday by Major League Baseball Advanced Media, L.P., the interactive media and Internet company of Major League Baseball.
“We are proud to reach a milestone that is representative of the passion and commitment Yankees fans have demonstrated for generations,” said Yankees COO Lonn Trost.
L to the 2nd, Zambrano for Kazmir was Jim Duquette all the way.
WFAN’s making a good argument to beef up the bench.
Erica:
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1b
A-Rod 3b
Matsui DH
Cano 2b
Swisher RF
Melky CF
Molina C
A lot of people have commented on how Melky was going down his usual path of starting out hot and then cooling off in a big way.
Haven’t heard much about that with “swish”
Interestingly, since the end of april melky has been a more productive offensive player than swisher by a significant margin.
Think about that. Since the end of april, the yankee right fielder has been less productive than the yankee CF. And that CF has been Melky Cabrera.
If Brandon Morrow is available, we know Cash will ask about King Felix he has to, but if Brandon Morrow is available IDK you’d have to think that our scouts would like to acquire that type of arm.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY
July 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
“The way Morrow has been pitching this year, I wouldn’t trade Jesus Montero’s mother for him.”
Isn’t he transitioning into the starting rotation this yr. ? I guess he’s wild this year but would have to wonder, other than him I’d take a stab at King Felix.
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That attempt flopped and he hurt his arm. 22 games and only 6 starts. Mariners may have ruined him.
CB: But Swisher’s still been drawing walks, no?
2661 and counting SS
Erica’s PBF LF
Tex Msg 1B
Mr. Kate Hudson 3B
Godzilla DH
Mr. RISP 2B
Get a Haircut RF
Melk Man CF
Holy Moli C
“LeBron to the Clippers?”
Staying in Cleveland IMO.
Jeter SS
Swisher LF
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hinske RF
Molina C
“That attempt flopped and he hurt his arm. 22 games and only 6 starts. Mariners may have ruined him.”
He did? I didn’t hear about it. Is it shoulder, elbow, forearm or bicep?
CB-Actually, I’ve heard that from a ton of people. The Yankee website is full of trolls who are Swisher haters.
Swisher (not surprisingly) did cool down a lot. But he seems to be heating up again.
Okay- So far I have
Andrew
Dan (so confident he posted it twice!!)
WTTCTOHA & L to the 2nd (same)
L to the 2nd- thanks for acknowledging my pretend relationship with Johnny Damon. Always appreciated
Are the Yankees able to send Ransom down? That way, they could have Pena in here to rest the infielders and play CF in an emergency.
Now that the Yankees have Hinske, couldn’t they rest Damon with an outfield of Swisher, Cabrera, and Hinske? It’s not going to be great defense, but it’ll get the job while Gardner is out.
it was a glitch
Erica – really should amend your screen name for that
Morrow started out as the closer in Seattle, got bombed and came up with arm soreness, then was transitioned into the rotation haphazardly, pitched pretty unimpressively and then being sent to AAA. He is not hurt, but he is pitching in AAA for the forseeable future as the team appears to be in no hurry to recall him even though Bedard is now on the DL for the millionth time.
Dan- I know. just teasing!!
Miggs- You are good. And most original so far. But I don’t like yours since MPB is not in it
Totally random, but look at this article about Jack Chesbro:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chesbro
MLB network had the top 9 seasons in MLB history and his astounding 1904 campaign with our very own NY Highlanders wasn’t mentioned.
He had a ridiculous year that year.
Think about that. Since the end of april, the yankee right fielder has been less productive than the yankee CF. And that CF has been Melky Cabrera.
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Ah, but lookie here Mr arbitrary begin and end dates, since the end of May Swisher has been more productive than Melky.
Erica I think he needs a day off…
In the postgame he was talking about a slow bat and sluggish legs before his last AB when he hit his HR.
Plus they’re on the turf.
Just a guess.
“Interestingly, since the end of april melky has been a more productive offensive player than swisher by a significant margin.”
I hesitate to wade into this because folks will think that I’m defending Nick (and rile up all those with a grudge against quantitative analysis), but this is just fun with selective endpoints.
Melky’s been better since the end of April, true. Nick has been better since the beginning of the season, true.
Melky’s been better over the last week. Nick’s been better over the last two weeks.
Melky was better in May and July. Nick was better in April and June.
The fact is, Melky’s been better than I thought he would be, and Nick’s been a little worse.
However, they’ve both helped the team.
http://fullcount.weei.com/spor.....-pitching/
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DO IT, ALREADY !
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I would take a stab at Lowe or Morrow depending on what The Yanks would have to give up for him.
And, Auntie Becca, I’d be up for a live chat; so you’ve got at least 3. It would sure beat the heck out of scouring CareerBuilder and MediaBistro looking for work for the umpteenth time.
I just got pulled off the beach, supposedly someone on Lohud is talking about trading Jesus Montero for Brandon Morrow! I know it can’t be true! That’s crazy talk. I need to go back to the beach now.
“Thinking about asking the Yankees for a job. I want to be in charge of the Tommy Bahama Bar or the area scout for Las Vegas. Or else!”
That bar needs your help. Can you make a Mai Tai ?
In the worst news of my life category, my dad’s wife is a designer for Tommy Bahama and will be given some sort of field access for the 1st game against Boston.
I had a good shot of joining her but I will not be in NY on that day.
Rebecca,
Even factoring in walks – since the end of april melky has been more productive than swisher.
Swisher’s overall numbers are highly skewed by his incredible start.
Melky’s have been also. And that’s commented on quite a bit.
But Swisher’s production was largely clustered in april. He’s been awful since then.
Worse than melky and that really says something.
Hopefully swisher gets hot again because they’ve been getting terrible production out of RF for the past 3 months.
But Swisher’s production was largely clustered in april. He’s been awful since then.
Worse than melky and that really says something.
Hopefully swisher gets hot again because they’ve been getting terrible production out of RF for the past 3 months.
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Swisher has an .800 OPS from June 1 to now.
Melky has a .750 OPS in that same stretch.
It’s like they are unzipping thier zipper at each other saying don’t make me pee on you! I’ll do it!
Just do it already dammit!
Nick don’t worry— and make you have at least SPF 50 on..
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOSTON 8 NEW YORK 0 = 1st PLACE NYY
July 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
“That attempt flopped and he hurt his arm. 22 games and only 6 starts. Mariners may have ruined him.”
He did? I didn’t hear about it. Is it shoulder, elbow, forearm or bicep?
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Bicep tendonitis back in May. He’s also a diabetic and wears an insulin pump while pitching, and that’s why he was moved to the back to the bullpen. He’s a big risk.
make SURE…damn keyboard
“When the Sox traded Hanley Ramirez, he was the #3 SS in baseball by BA – behind Jose Reyes and Brandon Phillips.”
Not exactly. The trade was after the ’05 season. Reyes and Phillips had exhausted their prospect status in 2004 and 2003 respectively. Heading into the ’06 season, Ramirez was rated the #30 prospect in baseball by BA, and was #6 among SS, though that list of SS’s included Justin Upton, who wasn’t going to play it as a pro, and Brandon Wood, who may be more of a 3B. Drew and Tulowitski were also ahead of him. Ramirez’s stay on the BA Top 100 was very up and down. Appeared at #19 in 2003. Fell to #39 in ’04. Climbed to #10 in ’05 but then saw his stock dip again after a less than stellar season and headed into ’06 as #30.
Can’t let the BA be the bible. In 2002, numbers 8 and 9 were occupied by Wilson Betimit and Drew Henson. #10 you ask?? One Mark Teixeira.
“It’s like they are unzipping thier zipper at each other saying don’t make me pee on you! I’ll do it!”
That image honestly never occured to me even briefly.
Has anybody ever told you that you have a sick sense of humor?
Nick had a respectable June. July hasn’t been bad for him, or that good. Mediocre comes to mind. The problem is the streaks.
“Bicep tendonitis back in May. He’s also a diabetic and wears an insulin pump while pitching, and that’s why he was moved to the back to the bullpen. He’s a big risk.”
Gizzammm
Ok…King Felix for a Jesus package
The Rangers turned down an offer from the Rays and the Mets just had initial interest. The Rays would consider dealing Kazmir, Carlos Pena and even Carl Crawford to free up enough salary to make a blockbuster deal for Martinez and Lee.
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Brandon, start your imagination. lol.
Since May 1 Swisher is .212/.345/.392/.737
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2009
Cabrera is .282/.346/.410/.756
(will post link in next post so it gets through the filter)
Cabrera’s got a much higher batting average, but otherwise they are quite similar.
1. jeter ss
2. swisher lf
3. texira 1b
4. arod 3b
5. matsui dh
6. posada c
7. cano 2b
8. hinske rf
9. melky cf
Cabrera since 1 May
http://www.baseball-reference......g_gamelogs
What is Girardi talking about. He can use Hinske to rest Damon.
Don’t get the comparison between Cabrera and Swisher. Not at all.
Other than the acolytes of the “Jorge Posada is a terrible catcher” religon, Swisher has as more critics than other Yankees player – at least on this blog.
Nick Swisher is doing what he’s always done. – hit for decent power, strike out a ton, and walk a ton – all while producing a high .OBP and a mediocre batting average.
You got him for Wilson Betemit and a bag of balls. You ain’t getting back Babe Ruth.
Optimally, he’s better as a fourth outfielder, as is Melky Cabrera.
But Nady is down so there’s no one to spell Swisher. Now the team’s best defensive outfielder, Gardner is down with a broken thumb. So Cabrera it is.
For better or worse, you’re stuck with both of them – and a trade for another outfielder is just not likely.
I’d say both of them, all things considered, are doing an admirable job – especially considering what most expected out of them.
“Has anybody ever told you that you have a sick sense of humor?”
Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor and Dave Chappelle also had a sick sense of humor.
jeter 6
damon 7
tex 3
alex 5
posada x
cano 4
swisher 9
cabrera 8
molina 2
“Swisher’s overall numbers are highly skewed by his incredible start.”
Swish is at .212 with a .345 OBP since April 30. Worse is that he has only a .396 slugging percentage in that timeframe. Melky beats him across the board with .282, .346 and .407 over the same period.
The value of Nick Swisher is that the Yankees didn’t have to panic when Xavier Nady went down.
Imagine, no Swisher and now no Gardner and you’d have to have Damon, Hinske and Cabrera playing in the field every day.
Or call up Jackson too early, or have an untested Peña out there, or spend too much in a trade.
saw this posted on SOSH:
Last week, two of the game’s executives, despite being hundreds of miles away from one another, were downright stereophonic in their assessment of the Red Sox. The Sox are growing arrogant, they said. They overvalue their prospects. The success of young Boston players from Jon Lester and Jonathan Papelbon to Dustin Pedroia and Jacoby Ellsbury has created an unrealistic outlook in the Boston organization, not to mention an inflation of the Boston farm system perpetuated by the Sox’ subwoofers in the media.
“Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor and Dave Chappelle also had a sick sense of humor.”
No arguement there.
I’m going with this one…
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1b
A-Rod 3b
Matsui DH
Cano 2b
Swisher RF
Melky CF
Molina C
Montero is now 2-4. Last at bat was a line drive that the shortstop jumped for and caught.
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
“Swisher’s overall numbers are highly skewed by his incredible start.”
Swish is at .212 with a .345 OBP since April 30. Worse is that he has only a .396 slugging percentage in that timeframe. Melky beats him across the board with .282, .346 and .407 over the same period.
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Swishers terrible post-april is skewed by a pretty bad May. Lets just remove that.
From June 1 to now he is hitting .246/.366/.458
Melky is at .259/.345/.399 in the same period.
Lets argue on these grounds.
will Jesus Montero have a statue/plaque in Monument Park, one day?
at one time had predicted Nick Johnson would. I was wrong tho
lets keep in mind nick carry the offense when everyone else was struggling
Swisher is streaky. Like it or lump it. And as for the haircut — well, I notice lots of goofy teenage fans are imitating that ridiculous “look” of his.
Good to have Hinski as an alternative in right but I bet the Yankees are kicking themselves for not going after Jeff Francouer instead. It looks like a change of scenery all Francouer needed and he may become an absolute powerhouse for the Mets.
Was in the car with my oldest son, and we were talking NBA. Then he mentions out of the blue that marbury has been coked-out on a webcam for 3 days now. I didn’t think about it until Patrick mentioned it. I don’t think I’ll waste my time on human waste, though, but it must be hilarious.
Okay, serious question. I don’t need to know the meaning because it was already explained to me by my daughter. Would you guys know what they mean if someone said, “that’s such a nosebleed movie?”
Just wondering if I’m the only person in the world who doesn’t get it.
Montero is a BEAST.
Can’t wait to see that guy hitting bombs in the Bronx.
Not too far away now. You can’t keep a bat like that in the minors forever.
My guess….. July 2010 Jesus Montero arrives at 161st st.
Andrew33 and Henner- you guys are good!
Hey — I’ve got an idea! Why don’t we just put Montero’s monument plaque up now? Why wait?
or in Seattle while King Felix hits the mid 90′s in the WS
Per Rumor Central regarding Jarrod Washburn:
“According to SI.com, the New York Yankees are another team that has made called Seattle about lefty Jarrod Washburn.
Yesterday, we noted that trade talks between Milwaukee and Seattle over Washburn have been called serious. That note came from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
One thing that could aid a deal to Milwaukee is Seattle’s familiarity with the Brewers’ system. Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik helped draft prospects in Milwaukee for years before heading West this past offseason.”
Not sure how I feel about Washburn. He is having a great season, but he is a flyball pitcher and I think he will get hit in this stadium. We’ll see if they can get it done
Swisher is now doing what we expected him to do when we got him in the winter. The only thing that is puzzling is why he can’t hit homeruns at NYS.
Montero is going to be hyped by the media as the next great Yankee prospect.
Don’t expect too much too quickly. What pressure there is going to be on this kid.
Mel:
No clue what that means.
Swisher’s .842 OPS this season is higher than Nady’s career OPS by a full 50 points, higher than what he hit in NY last year by 48 points, and higher than every one of Nady’s seasons except for last year, his career year.
Wait: It’s not Montero is “going to be”, it’s Montero “already is”
The kid’s got a special gift…and all the pressures that come along with it.
“Montero is going to be hyped by the media as the next great Yankee prospect.
Don’t expect too much too quickly. What pressure there is going to be on this kid.”
he already is hyped as that
Even though there is a LH pitching, I’m going with the same one I guessed yesterday, and will continue to do so until it is correct – just so I can be right once this year:
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Hinske RF
Cabrera CF
Hokiehill & CT23- you are good
vinny-b (keep Montero)
July 28th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
will Jesus Montero have a statue/plaque in Monument Park, one day?
at one time had predicted Nick Johnson would. I was wrong tho
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I was never all that impressed with Johnson. Even as a minor leaguer, he was injury prone. The other problem was that I never saw him as being that good on defense. Better than Giambi, but, who isn’t? He wasn’t good at digging out low throws and he short armed the throws to him.
“Not sure how I feel about Washburn. He is having a great season, but he is a flyball pitcher and I think he will get hit in this stadium. We’ll see if they can get it done”
Exactly Washburn is basically the same pitcher Pettitte is. He will have the same difficulty pitching in new stadium and in the al east.
Re: Montero
Yes, many in here would like the Monument plaque, the Hall of Fame designation and to retire the guy’s number before he even makes it to the big leagues!
“that’s such a nosebleed movie?”
no clue
unless it is movie that hit you hard in the face like some of the face punchers here.
m was there a context? which movie?
Rebecca and Ralphie-This kid has special pressure. Not just the next great prospect, but the next great YANKEE prospect.
Even Mantle struggled when he was first called up.
m-I have never heard of the term nosebleed movie.
“Hey — I’ve got an idea! Why don’t we just put Montero’s monument plaque up now? Why wait?”
ok kewl. Do you know Lonn Trost’s email?
“Swishers terrible post-april is skewed by a pretty bad May. Lets just remove that.
From June 1 to now he is hitting .246/.366/.458
Melky is at .259/.345/.399 in the same period.
Lets argue on these grounds.”
It’s picking the leper with the best complexion to me.
Right now, both have to play so it is kind of a useless argument (as someone correctly posted earlier). If Gardner were not hurt, I think the gap between their defensive play would make Cabrera the more suitable candidate for everyday rightfield. But Gardner’s hurt.
Montero could probably hit .260-.270 right now with 15 or so homers in the majors….possibly more. That’s as a 19 year old.
Montero should get his plaque put up for double A Trenton.
Largo- good luck with that approach
Holkiehill & CT23- you are good
Swisher is going to be on pace to hit around 25 homeruns this year and drive in 80-85 rbi’s. He is having a good year. He is not going to hit for a high average. He is an on base guy. His OBP is 367.
Montero is not normal. Nobody should be able to hit that well, that young.
“Montero could probably hit .260-.270 right now with 15 or so homers in the majors….possibly more. That’s as a 19 year old.”
Someone for ESPN–Callis or Law I think, but not sure–said that Montero could hit about .250 as a ML’er right now.
That a 19 y/o could outhit both our starting CF and RF says something.
Erica –
Just put me down for the same lineup everyday until one of those guys gets traded, sent to the minors, or goes on the DL.
One of these days – that will be the lineup.
Okay, in the car this morning and my daughter said, “that guy looks like the pirate in ‘Into the Blue’”
And I said is that the one where the two divers get left behind (I always get them mixed up).
She says no, so I tell her, “the one with Jessica Alba?”
She says, “yes”
So I tell her, “the only thing I remember about that movie is (insert crude remark about her anatomy).
She laughs, ands says “yeah it’s a nosebleed movie”
I’m like, “what? what does that mean”
She explains it, and I can’t make the connection.
Is there a taly for the lineup for the year
“I was never all that impressed with Johnson. Even as a minor leaguer, he was injury prone. The other problem was that I never saw him as being that good on defense. Better than Giambi, but, who isn’t? He wasn’t good at digging out low throws and he short armed the throws”
true. He was in the minor leagues, also. Wrist etc.
what i liked (loved) with NJ was the the ability to hit to all fields. A welcome change to dead pull-hitters/HR hitters like Giambi and Sheffield at the time. And of course, his batter’s eye
“m
July 28th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Swisher is now doing what we expected him to do when we got him in the winter. The only thing that is puzzling is why he can’t hit homeruns at NYS.”
He watches too many nosebleed movies when at home.
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
I’m like, “what? what does that mean”
She explains it, and I can’t make the connection.
so it is too off color to explain here? hints?
Largo-
You need to submit it everyday!! I have a highly scientific method for this game of putting line up submissions on little post-its and then throwing them out when I leave work.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
“Montero could probably hit .260-.270 right now with 15 or so homers in the majors….possibly more. That’s as a 19 year old.”
Someone for ESPN–Callis or Law I think, but not sure–said that Montero could hit about .250 as a ML’er right now.
That a 19 y/o could outhit both our starting CF and RF says something.
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It will be fun to see what he does in about 3 years with NY. The great thing is that he’s not a pull hitter. He hits high liners everywhere. He has a chance to make most parks look very small.
The Yanks are going to have a hard choice with Montero at some point during next season.
Are they going to leave him in the minors, trying to develop him into an everyday catcher (and maybe fail), or are they going to call him up and let him DH (cheap and productive)?
The catcher route has the highest upside, but the most risk it could fail. The DH route has a lower upside (but still pretty high – how would you like an inexpensive Fielder or Howard clone DH’ing for us in a few years?).
Dan-
I have not been tracking the winners. “Guess the Line Up” only officially started on the first game after the ASB so I could probably figure it out, but it would be a little tricky since sometimes multiple people win.
For example- yesterday we had a record 6 winners
I will try to put together a list of winners when I get home tonight, if people are interested
Well, the PG version is, “omg, she’s so hot”
Well since nothing is happening I’m going to cut out and get some sleep at work since the supervisor isn’t here today. Later guys & girls.
Remember … *points to self w/ both thumbs and a grin*
“I’M AWESOME !!!
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Before we fit Montero for a plaque…
Paulie, Tino (maybe), Bernie, Jeter, Torre, Mo, Jorge, Pettitte, ARod….
Just sayin’
“Montero could probably hit .260-.270 right now with 15 or so homers in the majors….possibly more. That’s as a 19 year old”
Pretty much what Griffey did when he with the Mariners at 19. Arod got about 200 AB’s as an 18 and 19 year old (thus screwing him out of a ROY Award) before taking off as a 20 year old. Any 19 year olds play in MLB since Griffey?
I don’t think Paulie should get a plaque. Bernie, maybe. Tino, no.
I LOVED all three of those players, but plaques? Probably not.
Jeter and Mo should get their own monuments.
Oh, The divers in that movie found some columbian marching powder which has been known to cause nosebleeds? is that it?
so nosebleed movie = Left handed relief pitcher on the yanks movie?
It will be cool in my eyes to have standings something to look into. Nothing better then a litte bragging rights haha.
Especially Mo.
Erica-You should keep standings. Make it a season long contest.
“Any 19 year olds play in MLB since Griffey?”
Justin Upton got 140 at bats and batted .221 as a 19 year old for the D-backs
Red Sox acquire Brian Anderson from White Sox
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....ade_f.html
Andruw Jones was like 12
Being as Chris Sheran @bptg17 just tweeted that he saw Ramiro Pena in Scranton walking out of Ruby Tuesdays (Sheran is doing the minor league shuffle this week) we can say that at least for today he is not being called up
Oh my God..I just researched Ted Williams and learned that in 1941 (where he batted 406) he had an OBP…of 551!
I didn’t even know anybody in the history of baseball got on base more than half the time! That’s crazy!
Even crazier is that 61 years later someone BROKE that record!
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Red Sox acquire Brian Anderson from White Sox
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Red Sox season is saved. Boy Genius strikes again!!
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 28th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Erica-You should keep standings. Make it a season long contest.
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I have no problem with that, but I only do “Guess the Line Up” during the week. I am not near a computer on weekends.
So I can track winners to date and keep it going forward
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
“Montero could probably hit .260-.270 right now with 15 or so homers in the majors….possibly more. That’s as a 19 year old.”
Someone for ESPN–Callis or Law I think, but not sure–said that Montero could hit about .250 as a ML’er right now.
That a 19 y/o could outhit both our starting CF and RF says something.
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He can’t, Melky is batting .290 and is having a good season overall. And Swish is driving in runs at a faster pace than Matsui plus, along with Cano, was the only reason the Yankees won any games in April.
It’s truly amazing how this blog elevates some players and discounts the contributions of others. And I’m not taking a shot at you, Rebecca, it just seems like this blog has it’s annointed ‘stars’ and the others are flawed players ready to never get another hit.
This Yankees team has played great baseball since May 1st, far and away the best in baseball. How have they done it with so many players who suck so badly?
1:57pm: Yahoo’s Gordon Edes reports that the Red Sox offered Clay Buchholz, Michael Bowden and Ryan Westmoreland to the Blue Jays for Halladay.
1:29pm: The Associated Press (via ESPN) reports that Rogers Communications, the company that owns the Blue Jays, wants to bring its costs under control. The Blue Jays have said they don’t have to deal Halladay, who has over $20MM left on his contract, for financial reasons.
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Cash needs to counter with a package for Rios/Halladay
“Andruw Jones was like 12″
Pretty much…He batted .217 with 5 homers as a 19 year old rookie with Atlanta, but batted .400 with 2 homers in the World Series against the Yankees, as a 19 year old. Now that is ridiculous
The only recent players getting put in Monument Park are Jeter, Mo and probably Arod. Bernie has a shot I think. But Andy, Tino and Paul are no chancers. Torre could get one…but there may be real bad blood there. I’m not sure.
Erica-Do that. I think it’s a good idea anyway.
I’m still in awe of Teddy Ballgame’s numbers. He deserved to win MVP that year (1941), hitting streak or no hitting streak.
That Red Sox trade for Anderson tells me one thing.
Theo has put Ellsbury on the table in a potential deal.
35 minutes left to post your entries for “Guess the Line Up”!!!
Here who is in so far:
Andrew, Henner, CT23 (same)
Dan
WTTCTOHA, L to the 2nd, Hokiehill (same)
Miggs
Andrew33
Largo
IDCWYT, Yanksfan (same)
I still marvel at the magic glove of Puff durung the ’78 World Series. He should have been the MVP for his defense alone.
Torre, Jeter, and Mo will get in. They’ll get over the Torre thing.
Posada might. A-Rod I doubt, he was not one of the Yankees’ most popular players.
I’m hoping that by the end of Tex’s contract his name’ll be added to the list.
There’s no way that package gets halladay. The Jays have made it clear that the Yanks and Sox will have to pay out of their a** to get him.
Can you name the managers of the New York Yankees franchise?
http://www.sporcle.com/games/yankees_managers.php
I’d be more inclined to think that Boston cuts Baldelli loose.
Agree about Tino – Paulie may get one, though. Notice no one has worn 21 since he retired (except for LaTroy Hawkins briefly – and that caused mass hysteria).
Agree on the monuments for Mo & Jeter.
Anyone I missed?
“Justin Upton got 140 at bats and batted .221 as a 19 year old for the D-backs”
And he shredded AA ball much the way the Montero is at the age of 19.
Anderson cant hit to save his life. He’s good in the filed and he’s fast though. Would have helped the Yanks in Gardner’s absence.
m
My guess would have been based on “nosebleed seats” which are high up so would have guessed a movie better appreciated in an altered state.
Are you saying a nosebleed movie means one filled with eye candy?
I’ve got 2 in and others approaching their teenage years. I need to know these things.
MG: Swisher isn’t even batting .240. I love him, and I love Melky in the late innings, but numbers are numbers.
Justin Upton and Andruw Jones both had ABs at 19 years old I think, and didn’t King Felix pitch at 19 too?
Jeter and Mo are guaranteed plaques. Posada is a maybe.
“I’m still in awe of Teddy Ballgame’s numbers”
yes. Crazy numbers.
I feel the same way, when checking Rickey Henderson’s numbers. Insane.
“And he shredded AA ball much the way the Montero is at the age of 19.”
Yep. And last year at 20 he had a good year and this year he’s really braeking loose. Upton is going to be a great player for the next 15 years at least.
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
L to the 2nd, I really enjoyed your line-up names
Here’s mine:
Jetes SS
Johnny LF
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Posada DH
Swish RH
Cano 2b
Melky CF
Molina C
“didn’t King Felix pitch at 19 too?”
He went 4 – 4 with a 2.67 era in about 85 innings and had a whip under 1.00 as a 19 year old for the Mariners
“I’d be more inclined to think that Boston cuts Baldelli loose”
what is Baldelli’s story this year. I checked his stats, they’re not that bad (in limited duty)
Deal ended up being Anderson for Kotsay.
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“I’m still in awe of Teddy Ballgame’s numbers”
yes. Crazy numbers.
I feel the same way, when checking Rickey Henderson’s numbers. Insane.’
If you want a crazy season, take a look at what Frank Thomas was doing pre-strike in 1994.
Erica,
My submission:
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
“I’d be more inclined to think that Boston cuts Baldelli loose.”
I’d guess they send Anderson to Pawtucket for a month and have him around as some insurance for Baldelli being unable to go.
Patrick from CT and NYY626- you are good
A-Rod came up at 19.
I think Jeter was 21.
Rebecca, Montero’s Batting average is .000 in the majors and until he actually gets a hit in the show it will stay there. It doesn’t matter what scouts or ‘analysts’ say. Arod hit .204 as an 18 year old and .232 as a 19 year old, if Montero could hit .250 right now it would make him a Hall of Famer in the making. Why put the pressure of all that expectation on the kid now? He’ll come up when he’s ready and hopefully will justify all the hype.
pat,
Yes. She said it’s a nice way of saying, “OMG…” The … is her waving her hands, like “you know”.
Country Club,
Nobody’s stepping up to the plate. The 11th hour comes, what’s Ricciardi going to do? Keep Halladay, or cut bait and get some salary relief?
MG: You’re completley right, but the speculation is half the fun
Tony Gwynn never struck out more than 40 times in ANY season of his career. Throughout his ENTIRE career he only struck out 434 times. That is just unheard of
the sox have offered fo halladay
Patrick the Prospect Hugger- you are in
Ramey- where is your submission?
vinny-b (keep Montero)
July 28th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
“I’d be more inclined to think that Boston cuts Baldelli loose”
what is Baldelli’s story this year. I checked his stats, they’re not that bad (in limited duty)
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I think that it’s more like they never know when he can play. The Sox have enough offensive issues without trading off Ellsbury, unless they’re planning on going for Halladay and taking on wells contract, too.
M,
I dont think money is a factor for this year. They could always trade him in the summer to get out from under his 2010 dollars.
I’m not sure what to think. JP has said that they’d be happy keeping him and most people think he’s full of it. But the players on the team seem to think he’s staying. maybe JP is keeping Halladay updated and he in turn is keeping the rest of the team in the loop.
Erica – always OPPC
July 28th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Patrick from CT and NYY626- you are good
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Boy, 1min appart…
I guess we are good.
Any news on a callup?
MG really hates prospects, it’s kind of crazy
An over 500 OBP blows my mind. I didn’t even know that was possible.
Just took the managers quiz, I got 31 of 4 I think. And I cheated and read the comments
Theo Epstein dealing for scrap heap types again to appease the Socks delusional fanbase. Gammons will paint this as a smart move.
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....tra_bases/
MLB Network showing ’98 WS Game Four.
I’m sitting here crying instead of calling clients, lol.
“Tony Gwynn never struck out more than 40 times in ANY season of his career. Throughout his ENTIRE career he only struck out 434 times. That is just unheard of”
Acutally more impressed with the strikout numbers of Williams and DiMaggio because they did with exceptional power.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 28th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
MG: You’re completley right, but the speculation is half the fun
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true but this year’s team is so much fun to watch right now with all the interlocking pieces it seems like many here are missing out with all the second guessing and complaining when something doesn’t go right. In a sport where 30% success at the plate means the Hall of Fame you just can’t expect someone to do the right thing all the time, it just doesn’t work like that.
Montero has been great, but there are lots of examples of guys that shoot up the prospect rankings that don’t pan out. I’m not saying he won’t but i think projecting him to hit 15-20 home runs a year now is jumping the gun just a bit, even if he did get to play at the new Yankee Stadium.
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes – Melancon Watch: Seventeen Days
July 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
MLB Network showing ‘98 WS Game Four.
I’m sitting here crying instead of calling clients, lol.
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I am tracking line up submissions instead of doing a tax return. LOL
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 28th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
MG really hates prospects, it’s kind of crazy
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Patrick, let me know when you grow up, maybe then we can have an intelligent conversation.
PUT-MONTERO-IN-LEFT-FIELD.
The answer is so obvious it is ridiculous. You get to bring him up sooner and he can play every day. Damon is gone after this season.
Montero is not a good catcher. Four bases were stolen off him in the recent AA All-Star Game. What do you think major league runners would do to a kid like that?
And catchers can’t play every day. So it defeats the purpose of that great bat. Plus you already have several other good catchers — Cervelli, Romine, etc.
MG: Just because we enjoy looking ahead doesn’t mean we can’t appreciate what we have now.
miguel cabrera was how old when he homered in the 2003 world series off clemens?
Sandy
I wouldnt mind another year of Damon either.
July 28th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
PUT-MONTERO-IN-LEFT-FIELD.
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Are you trying to make Erica cry??
Swisher’s homerun last night flow over my head by about 60ft that was a shot. If Robbie would have squared up that triple it probably would have it the screen it almost hit the roof.
Country Club,
Halladay’s value will never be as high as it is now. You’ve got 2 bullets to use for the postseason if you get him now.
Doc wants to win, it’ll be disheartening for him personally if he doesn’t get traded by the deadline. That means he’s going to get shopped in 2010, if they can’t trade him over the winter. Nothing more distracting for a player imo.
Did you guys see where the Jays informed the Twins they weren’t on the approved trade list?
If the Yankees got him, they could print up WS tickets already. Seriously.
I hope Montero stays at catcher (though left field does make sense).
Cervelli isn’t even in the same stratosphere of prospect as Montero.
Jose Tabata was supposed to be the next Manny Ramirez, wasn’t he?
“miguel cabrera was how old when he homered in the 2003 world series off clemens?”
He was 20 and batted .265 in the playoffs
NYY626
July 28th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Sandy
July 28th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
PUT-MONTERO-IN-LEFT-FIELD.
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Are you trying to make Erica cry?? I wouldnt mind another year of Damon either.
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I have the urge to hug you right now
Sandy: Montero is 19 years old. You don’t worry about moving him this early, especially when he’s shown improvement.
And if Montero can’t catch every day it’s no big worry–the American League has this awesome thing called the DH.
“An over 500 OBP blows my mind. I didn’t even know that was possible.”
But he was lousy in the post-season and never got a ring so it means nothing.
“Theo Epstein dealing for scrap heap types again to appease the Socks delusional fanbase. Gammons will paint this as a smart move”
In this case, he was dealing from the scrap heap too. Anderson’s been assigned to Pawtucket per MLBTR. He’s a substandard MLB hitter but can play CF in a pinch if for some reason Baldelli couldn’t in his role as backup. Kotsay is no longer physically capable of playing center, though that didn’t stop Ozzie from using Swisher there for 80 games last year. Minor deal, but it seems to make a little sense for both sides.
“If the Yankees got him, they could print up WS tickets already. Seriously.”
Come on, m. You’re smarter than that. This is baseball, Halladay can get smashed in the first round and we could have an early plane ride home. And then we’d look kind of silly with useless pieces of paper that say WS on them.
No one said Tabata was going to be Manny Ramirez. People said his batting stance reminds them of Manny. And Manny was his favorite player growing up. So it was wishful thinking on some fans part.
Erica-
Sorry I’m late to the lineup party!
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Posada DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Is it safe to say the calledup is probably going to be Austin Jackson (baring a trade of course)? Do you guys think they will make a move today for an OF, or wait?
I don’t think it makes any sense to consider a healthy 19 year old who can play every day for the DH when in a year or two you are going to have plenty of aging and/or hurting players vying for that spot.
The Blue Jays have basically hung up on the Phillies and are having serious talks with the Red Sox involving thes players: Scutaro/Halladay/Overbay for Lowrie/Bucholtz/Bowden/Bard/Anderson and some other minor prospects. How do I know? I am in Toronto and have some very serious connections.
call-up* well hello grammar!
“Patrick, let me know when you grow up, maybe then we can have an intelligent conversation.”
Wow that was uncalled for.
We had a perfectly intelligent conversation last night.
It’s just silly to me that the only thing that matters to you is what a player does in the majors. Everyone else looks forward to players based on what they do in the minors.
Why do you think teams trade for prospects? Scouting reports, what those players have done in the minors etc. By your logic all prospects are worthless. Might as well trade Montero, Jackson, Melancon for Kevin Millar.
Sox have offered Bucholz, Bowden and Westmoreland for Halladay according to yahoo sports. That’s a strong offer and I hope it’s not true.
pat-I know.
Teddy Ballgame was a weird dude. Joe D’s tongue in cheek nickname of Teddy Tantrum was an apt one. The fans loved him and cheered him all the time-but because once in a blue moon they booed him he refused to tip his cap to them, even when he homered in his final at bat. At home.
He also hated sportswriters, who in turn hated him and refused to vote him MVP.
But he was also very cordial to any fans he met in person and was supposedly a good guy if you ever met him.
Weird.
Why is everyone ragging on Nick Swisher? He’s producing as much for us as Big Papi is for Boston…and Swisher can play the field….well, sorta.
If the Red Sox get Halladay we are NOT winning the division unless either him or Beckett are injured very quickly after the trade is made.
We need Halladay, i cant take Joba anymore.
Wait,
I didn’t mean literally print up tickets.
Halladay to the Sox would be worrisome. But not as worrisome as the Phillies or the Dodgers who are much more complete at the present time.
“i cant take Joba anymore.”
After Joba’s last two starts I’m gonna pretend that’s a joke.
“If the Red Sox get Halladay we are NOT winning the division unless either him or Beckett are injured very quickly after the trade is made.”
I’m pretty sure we still can win the division. It’s not as though we’ve never beaten Halladay before.
At any rate, we could go 0-18 against the Sox and still win the division.
Not even urban dictionary knows what ‘nosebleed movie’ means
If I have to guess, I’d figure it’s the nosebleed = arousal thing.
m-It’s actually way more worrisome to me if the Sox get Halladay. They’re in our division.
The Phils and Dodgers are in the NL. Let’s not worry about who we face in the WS until we get there. And in the playoffs anything can happen.
If they trade Halladay to the sox which I doubt JP better get Bard in the trade.
No game thread yet. Is something brewing in Yankeeville?
“Scutaro/Halladay/Overbay for Lowrie/Bucholtz/Bowden/Bard/Anderson and some other minor prospects”
I’m guessing Overbay is a key component in this deal because all contending teams need at least three 1st basemen.
NEXT!!!
Rebecca-Of course we COULD. I’m not saying give up and let them steamrll us.
But I highly doubt we will is all if the Sox get Halladay.
“Why is everyone ragging on Nick Swisher? He’s producing as much for us as Big Papi is for Boston…and Swisher can play the field….well, sorta.”
He’s actually producing more. Swisher is at .237, 16 homers, 53 rbi, a .367 obp and an .810 ops.
Ortiz is at .227 13 homers, 54 rbi, a .314 obp and a .728 ops.
To put that into better perspective, Melky Cabrera has a much higher ops than Ortiz this year. That’s just silly.
“An over 500 OBP blows my mind. I didn’t even know that was possible.
Just took the managers quiz, I got 31 of 4 I think. And I cheated and read the comments”
Ever heard of Barry Bonds? He did it 4 times, once with a .609 OBP.
Halladay does not guarantee the Sox anything. Man, if that ever happened I’d have to take some time off from this board. So many people would need to be talked off the ledge it just wouldnt be enjoyable.
The Blue Jays have basically hung up on the Phillies and are having serious talks with the Red Sox involving thes players: Scutaro/Halladay/Overbay for Lowrie/Bucholtz/Bowden/Bard/Anderson and some other minor prospects. How do I know? I am in Toronto and have some very serious connections.
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So lets see, the return on Halladay has to be:
Lowrie, Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, anderson
Where are they ponying up for Scutaro(career year) and Overbay? Also where would overbay play?
Worst fake trade ever.
Final Call for Guess the Line Up-
(Must be in by 3:40)
Andrew, Henner, CT23, Patrick from CT
Dan
WTTCTOHA, L to the 2nd, Hokiehill
Miggs
Andrew33
Largo
IDCWYT, YanksFan
NYY626, Ramey
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
Kay amazed that Mets announcers can say anything they want on air.
is he jealous?
As much as I’d hate to see the Red Sox get Halladay, I’d equally hate to see them get Scutaro who beats our brains in usually and can hit Mo.
CountryClub-OF COUSE nothing is guranteed anybody.
But I find it hard to see how the Red Sox wcould lose with that SICK rotation.
I’m not saying give up, the season’s over, but it’s would not be a good thing.
Sox have offered Bucholz, Bowden and Westmoreland for Halladay according to yahoo sports. That’s a strong offer and I hope it’s not true.
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This is not a strong offer. Next!
Wait: A little optimism never hurt anyone
New thread!
NO MORE LINEUPS HERE
(THEY WILL NOT COUNT)
“No one said Tabata was going to be Manny Ramirez.”
There were tons of comparisons between Tabata and Manny. Google it.
“If the Red Sox get Halladay we are NOT winning the division unless either him or Beckett are injured very quickly after the trade is made.”
Am I to understand that Halladay is also a middle of the order bat?
Honestly, if Boston were to somehow pry him loose from the Jays, how does that improve and offense that’s been as bad as any for the past month or so? Yankees would still match up with them quite well 1-3 and have a better offense. If anything, it gives Boston some life, but I don’t believe it changes the fact that the Yankees are the favorites in the AL.
Halladay doesnt help the Sox offense. It’s been putrid and there’s no reason to think it will change. They’re either old, overrated or playing to their norm. It’s not like the Yanks last year, where they had guys hurt and underperforming. Youk and Pedroia are doing what they do. Jacoby is overrated. Bay and Drew are hitting the norm. Lowell and Ortiz are old.
PJH-Actually, I did not know Bonds did it. Crazy.
Bonds too did it with the help of steroids. (Not trying to bring up the debate again, talk about beating a dead horse, but just pointing that out).
Sox have offered Bucholz, Bowden and Westmoreland for Halladay according to yahoo sports. That’s a strong offer and I hope it’s not true.
it looks just like what Red Sox did in the Johan Santana sweepstakes, a package strong enough to block the Yankees out and to lure a NL team to panic and give blue jays whatever they want.I think Cashman will probably throw something out soon to counter the Red Sox offer and both teams will pull it leaving blue jays no choice but to trade with the Phillies.
Halladay is not a middle of the order bat. Nut you don’t need to socre 10 runs if you give up 2.
Scutaro/Halladay/Overbay for Lowrie/Bucholtz/Bowden/Bard/Anderson and some other minor prospects.
Ah HA!
Scut and Doc in an 8 player trade?
Where have I heard that before……??
“Kay amazed that Mets announcers can say anything they want on air.
is he jealous?”
Good for the Mets and their announcers. That’s the one area SNY kicks the crap out of YES. Announcers are just way better.
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Texiera 1B
Arod 3B
Posada DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Molina C
Cabrera CF
Sorry — but that is what I am told by my source with the Blue Jays.
I think Overbay is being pushed by the Blue Jays as salary relief. He would be an upgrade over LaRoche. The Jays want Lind to play everyday at first now.
The hold up is Bard. Jeff Blair from the Globe and Mail just tweeted, “No Bard, no deal”.
This isn’t fake, things are moving very fast and it is a serious discussion. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Halladay in a Sox jersey tommorow.
“Teddy Ballgame was a weird dude. Joe D’s tongue in cheek nickname of Teddy Tantrum was an apt one. The fans loved him and cheered him all the time-but because once in a blue moon they booed him he refused to tip his cap to them, even when he homered in his final at bat. At home.
He also hated sportswriters, who in turn hated him and refused to vote him MVP.
But he was also very cordial to any fans he met in person and was supposedly a good guy if you ever met him.
Weird”
it depends on one’s perspective. He also served his country in 2 wars. Voluntarily, i believe. When reflecting on Ted Williams, i think of an immensely talented and cocky kid, who became a real man. An all-American
halladay-beckett-lester is very very scarry…
“This isn’t fake, things are moving very fast and it is a serious discussion. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Halladay in a Sox jersey tommorow.”
Sigh…. leave it to Beaver.
“but this is just fun with selective endpoints.”
Wave,
It’s really not selective end points at all.
I wasn’t trying to make some point of lauding Melky. I’m not trying to say who is the innately “better” ball player.
I don’t even think Melky’s that good.
I was only using him as an example. Lots of people have talked about how Melky isn’t reliable and can’t be counted on for the rest of the year because he gets off to hot starts and then fades. Pete’s talked about it in a number of posts, for example.
It’s hard to estimate what you’ll get from Melky over the next 3 months because it’s hard to know what the past three months signified.
Swisher is in a similar position. I have no idea what the yankees will get from him going forward because his production is so highly clustered over particular periods of time. All baseball players are “streaky” but Swishwer has been extreme in this regard.
And even in his subsequent periods when he’s hit, he’s never come close to the level of production he put up in April. And it’s the production from that month that largely colors his overall stats even now.
For the past three months the fact is that the yankees have been getting far below average production from RF – far below average. Swisher has been producing in the replacement level range in RF for three months.
And I have no idea if that’s going to turn around. Or if it does by how much?
It’s a problem. Night in and out for the past three months the team is getting below average production from a spot on the field many teams get huge production from. That’s an issue if it continues. It will undoubtedly hurt the team.
Swisher doesn’t have to be great. But he really needs to turn it around in a big way because he really has been bad for a fairly long stretch.
It’s not an issue of arbitrary end points. It’s trying to gain some insight into what the value of a player is when his mean statistics do not demonstrate the range of his production over time, particularly at the extremes.
Hopefully last night was his night to start to turn it around.
He’s been awful for most of the month.
As a fellow Rockaholic, I love the Swish Hawk.
As for Swisher’s production. His Pitches/PA is about 4.2, which is REALLY good. So even when he’s not getting on-base or slugging, he’s still doing something useful. He gets good AB’s which helps every other batter in the lineup.
Well, I would just say this team, this Yankees team, is clearly a case where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. I would say that is one definition of a championship team.
Or you could say they’re individually underperforming, in certain cases, and you can wait for the “other shoe to drop,” thinking the success can’t be sustained.
ANY UPDATE ON TRADES FOR YANKEES WILL THE YANKEES GET A PITCHER IF SO WHO TELL ME WHO YOU THINK YET WILL GET