Game 101: Yankees at Rays
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 29, 2009 
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YANKEES (61-39)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (6-2, 3.86).
RAYS (55-46)
Upton CF
Crawford LF
Longoria 3B
Zobrist 2B
Pena 1B
Burrell DH
Gross RF
Navarro C
Bartlett SS
Pitching: RHP Matt Garza (7-7, 3.68).
TIME/TV: 7:10, YES, ESPN.
STATE OF THE STRIPES: The Yankees and Rays have split the first two games of the series. Now comes a matchup between two hard-throwing right-handers. The Yankees have won eight of their last nine series. Taking two of three from the Rays would be a good start to the road trip. The team leaves after the game for Chicago.
JOBAMANIA: Joba Chamberlain has allowed two runs in 13.2 innings since the All-Star break while striking out 14. He started against the Rays on June 7, allowing three runs on five hits over six innings. He has a 1.88 ERA against them in eight career appearances, seven of them coming in relief when he was the greatest baseball player there ever was.
ONE TO GO: Alex Rodriguez has gone 31 at-bats since his last home run. He needs one more to tie Harmon Killebrew for ninth place all-time with 573.
HOMER HAPPY: The Yankees have a Major League-most six players with at least 15 home runs: Cano, Damon, Matsui, Rodriguez, Swisher and Teixeira. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the Yankees became only the second team in Major League history to have six players collect 15 home runs before it had played 100 games, joining the 2005 Rangers, who had seven such players (Teixeira, Alfonso Soriano, Hank Blalock, Kevin Mench, David Dellucci, Michael Young and Richard Hidalgo).
JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY: With his 200th career homer on Monday, Johnny Damon is now one of 14 players all-time with at least 200 homers, 300 steals and 2,000 hits. The only other active player is Bobby Abreu. The list also includes Hall of Famers Rickey Henderson, Willie Mays, Paul Molitor, Joe Morgan and Ryne Sandberg.
ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: Fake Plastic Trees by Radiohead.
Much more later.
UPDATE, 5:22 p.m.: Yankees obtained RHP Jason Hirsh from Colorado for a PTBNL. He was sent to AAA. He was 6-7, 6.66 in 20 games for AAA Colorado Springs. Scranton badly needed a starter as they were using their bullpen to take a turn once a week.
UPDATE, 5:38 p.m.: Don’t expect to see Damaso Marte any time soon, if at all. He was topping out at 88 last night and gave up two jacks.
With Chicago starting three LHPs in the next series, Joe Girardi hinted they could want a right-handed bat for the roster. Shelley Duncan?
UPDATE, 5:46 p.m.: Brett Tomko was released.
UPDATE, 6:45 p.m.: A few other tidbits: No update on how Wang’s surgery went. Getting updated medical news from the Yankees is, as always, a challenge. … Alfredo Aceves threw 20 pitches off the bullpen mound and felt good. He’s not available tonight but could be tomorrow.
UPDATE, 7:09 p.m.: We’re underway at The Trop. I’ll get back later with some updates, got a bunch of newspaper work to do.
Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 7:14 p.m.: Jeter’s first triple since May 13, 2008 at … Tropicana Field.
UPDATE, 7:27 p.m.: George Steinbrenner is at the game and was in the Yankees clubhouse during and after batting practice. He was in the manager’s office and according to team officials, nearly every player stopped in to say hello to him.
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: The Rays are playing Black Crowes tunes when A-Rod comes up. Pretty funny.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: Joba has thrown 49 pitches (33 strikes) in four innings. 4 1 0 0 0 2.
UPDATE, 8:25 p.m.: Yankees have has eight base-runners in six innings against Garza but only two runs as they have left five men on base. But they lead 2-0.
UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: Joba since the break: 18.2 innings, 6 hits, 2 earned runs, 8 walks, 17 strikeouts.
UPDATE, 8:47 p.m.: Robbie crushed that 1-2 pitch deep into the RF stands. 3-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 9:52 p.m.: Sorry for the lack of updates, been writing the game story.
Joba has an 0.83 ERA since the break. Pretty amazing. Now Bruney has forced Mariano into a game he should have been watching. This is the kind of thing that could cost them a game over the weekend if Mo is not available. Bruney, at this point, simply can’t be trusted.
Back later with clubhouse reaction.
So is Damon HOF worthy?
Lets take 2 of 3!
Last Call for “Guess the Line Up”. No submissions are accepted after 3:40
Here’s who is in:
No Hype, WTTCTOHA, Andrew, Hokiehill, IDCWYT, Andrew33, NYY626, Largo, BBFan, El Duque (same)
Ramey, Rebecca (same)
Bronx Jeers
86w183
Update Kate
Yanksfan, ePic (same)
Miggs
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
Bmgyanksfan
BlackACCORD
Bru
RayVT
update…the ants were delicious…no for sale sign on halladays house…
FPS – top 10 live songs of all time
The Yankees.com homepage has a story titled: “Melancon making most of opportunities.”
Shouldn’t “opportunities” be singular?
This is gonna be a tough one.
I really don’t lke the “stoylines” of this game (Rays say they need this series to stay in it! Kazmir outpitches Yankees’ Ace! Dramatic game three set up!), but this’ll be a good litmus test for young Joba Chamberlain.
Yea the Sox are all in on V-Mart not Doc.
Damon ahs like a 30% chance to reach 3,00 hits.
That’s not very high but it’s not miniscule either.
ahs is has.
“M, Kay has never liked Hughes – it’s no surprise. He just started gushing over him in the pen this year, but I expect he still doesn’t think much of Phil as a potential top flight starter.”
The silent “H” just drives him crazy…
if Halladay to Boston is imminent,
offer: Joba Chamberlain, Romine, McCallister
that is a damm good offer. Better then the crap Cleveland received for Cliff Lee. And better then what Boston would give up.
no Montero. No Hughes. End of story
So here’s one for you all:
Who’s going to be the first beat writer/reporter with the line up?
Your options:
PeteAbe
Mark Feinsand
Tyler Kepner
Sweeny Murti (sp)
Ed Price
Et. Al.
“This is gonna be a tough one.
I really don’t lke the “stoylines” of this game (Rays say they need this series to stay in it! Kazmir outpitches Yankees’ Ace! Dramatic game three set up!), but this’ll be a good litmus test for young Joba Chamberlain.”
The storyline of this game will be “Joba Makes the Case to Stay with Yankees!” or “No Way the Yankees Can Trade Joba After That!”
Ugh..good thing I don’t write headlines.
“update…the ants were delicious…no for sale sign on halladays house”
lol
I’m going to the game tonight again. Anyone else?
Argghh. Would like a win today.
I say PeteAbe, Rebecca.
“update…the ants were delicious…no for sale sign on halladays house”
Renee Zellweger, is that you?
Fake Plastic Trees – most beautiful song ever written about fake breasts.
If you’re not offering Hughes, you’re not offering Joba either.
If Hughes gets traded for Halladay then the Yankees are going to be the last place team next year. Guaranteed.
don’t let that picnic ruin your ants…
Rebecca-
That takes the game to a whole new level. LOL
“if Halladay to Boston is imminent,
offer: Joba Chamberlain, Romine, McCallister
that is a damm good offer. Better then the crap Cleveland received for Cliff Lee. And better then what Boston would give up.
no Montero. No Hughes. End of story”
Seconded.
I gurantee the Yankees won’t be in last place next year if either Hughes or Joba is traded. Just can’t gurantee they’ll be in first.
my vote for most underrated Radiohead song of all-time:
My Iron Lung.
FPS is right up there, though.
“if Halladay to Boston is imminent,”
since when?
What in the blazes is going on with the board today? The layout keeps changing when I log in.
“If Hughes gets traded for Halladay then the Yankees are going to be the last place team next year. Guaranteed.”
Because clearly, Hughes is a better pitcher than Halladay.
“I gurantee the Yankees won’t be in last place next year if either Hughes or Joba is traded. Just can’t gurantee they’ll be in first.”
Well yeah, I meant it kind of like that. I’d trade Joba but not Hughes.
“Alex Rodriguez has gone 31 at-bats since his last home run. He needs one more to tie Harmon Killebrew for ninth place all-time with 573.”
Is it me or does Alex always seem to get stuck on the milestones.
He’s probably got a Killebrew dartboard or something in his apt.
“I’ll get by you yet Harmon Killebrew !”
Gennaro
I do not think you know what you are talking about…
If you’d trade Joba then it doesn’t make sense to not trade Hughes.
Joba has had the more sucessful career than Hughes.
kudos on the mobile version of the blog. AWESOME.
I would deal B prospects for halladay and take back rios deal. we have damon, matsui, and nady off the books next year and next season’s OF free agents don’t look great so rios could be useful. but I would be very very leery in moving hughes and montero.
wouldn’t trade either.
Because clearly, Hughes is a better pitcher than Halladay.
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Have you seen him in the bullpen? He looks like Walter Johnson and Sandy Koufax got in a terrible teleportation accident and were fused into a horrible, baseball playing mutant
“If Hughes gets traded for Halladay then the Yankees are going to be the last place team next year. Guaranteed.”
Did you forget that there would still be 24 other guys on the team besides either Hughes or Halladay? Last I checked, the Yankees usually put together a pretty good 25-man roster. Also last I checked, Baltimore and Toronto are still pretty bad. So, maybe 3rd place makes sense if you want to get dramatic, but last? Yikes.
Damon is not a Hall of Famer. He’s been a very good player in this league for awhile now. The Hall of Fame used to be for “Great” players. I don’t care if Damon gets 3000 hits or not, he’s not a Hall of Famer. To be a Hall of Famer you at least have to be in the argument as the best player at your position for a significant amount of your career. Damon has not. Rickey definitely was. Rice was for a few years, but not enough in my mind.
Pete, you need some real music on your I Pod such as Barry Manilow and Neil Diamond…
And of course the greatest soundtrack of all time…Mama Mia!!!
Rebecca and the winner is
Carig from the Star Ledger
If JP takes what is being rumored to be offered by the Sawx for Hallday…than the only Wow he will be getting is…Wow you got screwed.
Thom Yorke recorded the vocals for Fake Plastic Trees in one take, and broke down in tears at the end (that’s how much the song meant to him).
Radiohead…the greatest band of the last 30 years.
Boston is going to trade for Victor Martinez. That is the player they have been looking at.
I dont know what people want the yanks to do. Boston has some good prospects the yanks cant block every good player from going to the red sox. Maybe in free agency its a different story. But if the red sox really want to trade for someone there is nothing Cashman can do.
Damon three days in a row on turf? I’m a little surprised there.
All 10 of us sheep got the lineup guess wrong. Swisher over Hinske did us in
The Yankees will break the Rangers record. They will have 8 players with 15 homers and an outside chance at 9. Melky could hit 15 but its doubtful.
Put Hughes in the rotation and Joba back in the bullpen.
Play Hinske. I like Swish, but every day? Hurry back GGBG.
so much for days off from the turf for a few players?
after today, a roster move must be made to get another OF on the team.
Same lineup as yesterday.
Which of course was my first guess.
“Is it me or does Alex always seem to get stuck on the milestones.”
He’s been in a bit of a funk since the break (.233, .716 OPS). Just had his day off on Sunday and had a couple hits last night, so maybe he’s ready to take off.
Congratulations go out to Yanksfan and ePic who correctly predicted today’s line up at 3:07 and 3:10, respectively.
Thank you to all who participated as we tied our previous participation record of 22 submissions. Please tune in tomorrow at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”
Stay Tuned for updated standings soon to be posted
Wow. Swish gets a pass. Again. I really don’t know how I feel about that. He’s an aggressive player, but he’s just so clumsy out there. Oh, well.
OMG the mobile version of the blog is FANTASTIC!!! Good work Pete and all the tech people behind the scenes no longer have to zoom in, quick loading now.
Joe Girardi completely eluded all of you who thought he would bench Swisher
“Radiohead…the greatest band of the last 30 years.”
Lol wow. Not the Beatles, Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones or anything.
any word on a move for OF help Pete? Or are we going to have to wait for the trade deadline for that?
Girardi has a HUGE man-crush on Swisher. Hinske might as well head to the dugout in his civies.
Bad if your an Indians fan…
“Thank you to all who participated as we tied our previous participation record of 22 submissions. Please tune in tomorrow at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up””
Also, with a later start tomorrow, 8 PM in Chicago, there should be another hour in the “Guess the Line Up” game.
Forget Swisher, I thought Damon would get the day off!
“Have you seen him in the bullpen? He looks like Walter Johnson and Sandy Koufax got in a terrible teleportation accident and were fused into a horrible, baseball playing mutant”
yeah I’ll take the guy who throws multiple complete games and averages a shutout a year over that.
I lost (darn) but considering Swishy’s sick numbers off Garza I’m down with him playing today.
Pete’s predictions sukk.
Remember when he said aliens would land in Central Park before ARod resigned with the Yanks?
And how the Yanks didn’t have the budgetary room to sign Tex?
Now, just this morning, he predicted Doc going to the Phillies.
HA!!
“Joe Girardi completely eluded all of you who thought he would bench Swisher”
I guess he weighed the Swish v. Garza stats more heavily than the Swish v Swish in RF yesterday performance.
I guessed wrong, but 1st place this season says Girardi has been right most of the time…here come the complaints anyway…
Al Fro BK, you need to check your calendar (unless you really like disco Stones).
The end for Zep came in 1980 with the death of Bonham.
Since that time, the best band to emerge, imho, is Radiohead.
I’m far from the only person who believes this.
No off day for Posada, Damon, or Matsui.
Girardi is really riding his guys hard this past week.
WAY TOO MANY GGBG haters here!
I LOVE BRETT GARDNER! First real speed star of the yankees ! (last 10 years)
“Play Hinske. I like Swish, but every day? Hurry back GGBG.”
Swisher is hitting .750 with 2 HR, 1 2B, and 1 BB this year against Matt Garza. No other Yankee has hit Garza at all this year.
“Congratulations go out to Yanksfan and ePic who correctly predicted today’s line up at 3:07 and 3:10, respectively.”
Thanks. It’s easy to guess the lineup if you do a minute of research on the matchups.
since Clevland is selling, who do Yanks have to give up to get Choo?
GUESS THE LINE UP STANDINGS!!!!
After 8 rounds, there have been 16 different winners as follows:
Patrick the Prospect Hugger 2 Wins 7/27,7/17
Ramey 2 Wins 7/22, 7/21
Yanksfan 7/28, 7/29
IDCWYT 7/28
HoNype 7/28
Andrew 7/27
Bill 7/27
BBfan 7/27
Henner 7/27
Eights 7/27
RS 7/24
WTTCTOH 7/24
86w183 7/23
Miggs 7/23
Hokiehill 7/22
ePic 7/29
I didn’t realize until now that Yanksfan has two correct guesses in a row. Lets see if they can go for a threepeat tomorrow!
Led Zeppelin, ACDC, Journey, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, and the Eagles are all better than Radiohead. And that’s off the top of my head.
JMO.
“Pete’s predictions sukk.
Remember when he said aliens would land in Central Park before ARod resigned with the Yanks?
And how the Yanks didn’t have the budgetary room to sign Tex?
Now, just this morning, he predicted Doc going to the Phillies.
HA!!”
How do you know he was wrong on the first one? An oddly placed probe says different…let’s move on now…
Swisher has good numbers off Garza. I dont understand how people want Girarid to bench him. Because the ball took a weird bounce and got behind him. THe first play would of been a great catch he ran a long way for the ball, people are acting like that was a routine catch.
Well, if Swisher can hit Garza, that’s a good thing. Garza apparently does well in big games against “big” teams and in home games. For what it’s worth.
“Is it me or does Alex always seem to get stuck on the milestones.”
Some of them but he tied and passed Reggie in 1 day.
Joe I
July 29th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
“Thank you to all who participated as we tied our previous participation record of 22 submissions. Please tune in tomorrow at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up””
Also, with a later start tomorrow, 8 PM in Chicago, there should be another hour in the “Guess the Line Up” game.
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Good catch Joe I. Tomorrow “Guess the Line Up” will start at 3pm sharp and end at 4:40!!!!!!
“Girardi is really riding his guys hard this past week.”
I’m trying really hard to take the high road here.
Al from BK
July 29th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
“Radiohead…the greatest band of the last 30 years.”
Lol wow. Not the Beatles, Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones or anything.
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The Beatles haven’t played a note of music in almost 40 years
Hey, am I looking at the Mobile version of this blog? But I’m using my desktop browser!
miggs
July 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
No off day for Posada, Damon, or Matsui.
Girardi is really riding his guys hard this past week.
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Important game in an important series. Rest tomorrow.
Hinske and Swish respectively versus Garza .500 and .600 (small samples sizes I know)
Damon is .154
Melky .154
I for sure thought we would see Hinske in this series at some point also thought that Molina would at least get one of these games but guess not.
I guarantee I have groups on my iPod that none of you have ever heard of, or would ever be caught listening
it’s hard to believe the yanks couldn’t acquire cliff lee, considering the package the indians’ got. i mean: jackson, mcallister, melancon, and another upside arm might be a better package than what the indians got from the phils. knapp is 18 with high high upside, and lou marson can probably start for them at catcher almost immediately. unless the indians didn’t care for the yanks prospects, i really dont get it.
Many of you already suspect this, but big things are in the works. The iron is hot and the current Yankees regime typically knows just when to strike. You won’t hear much until tomorrow.
Now the Pirates are moving Freddie Sanchez?
Who’s left on that team?
El duque
July 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
WAY TOO MANY GGBG haters here!
I LOVE BRETT GARDNER! First real speed star of the yankees ! (last 10 years)
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I agree he was having a very good season and becoming a good role player for the team. He is batting 275 with an obp of 354, 20 stolen bases and 6 triples. It also hurts the outfield defense because now late in close games you dont have both Melky and Gardy playing the outfield.
xyz, said the last 30 years!!!!!!!!! Leave out the Stones, Zeppelin and The Beatles.
“Girardi is really riding his guys hard this past week”
“I’m trying really hard to take the high road here”
What do the Pirates ownership do with the revenue sharing money?
Bobcat is back!
Along with Beaver and AntEater, the three diligently report any Yankee trade rumors using incredible animal stealth techniques.
Put Hughes in the rotation and Joba back in the bullpen.
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Switching pitchers bewteen the bullpen and the rotation is more difficult than it sounds. Those arms get used tio the rhythm of pitching 6-7 innings every 5th day or 1-2 innings every day or two. If you screw around too much with them they may develop arm troubles.
We all thought that Alfredo Aceves had a rubber arm and could easily go back and forth between starting and relieving. Well…we tried that with him and now he’s got a sore shoulder.
Doesn’t seem like anybody is willing to trade their elite prospects anymore. Perhaps there are fewer dumb people running baseball teams these days.
You rule, Pete!
holy crap.
Pete- for the first time EVER you are listening to awesome music on your ipod. The only thing I have never respected about you is your taste in music/movies and now I am second guessing myself. Radiohead– good for you.
“Leave out the Stones, Zeppelin and The Beatles.”
You’re right, my bad. That still leaves ACDC, Journey, and the Eagles.
“and lou marson can probably start for them at catcher almost immediately”
Lou Marson couldn’t start for the Tribe’s AA team right now, nevermind the big club.
“Put Hughes in the rotation and Joba back in the bullpen.”
Why Hughes as been lights out in the bullpen. And Joba has been a much better starter than Hughes.
ants around yankees HQ delicious…expensive…jesus montero owns antfarm, feeds anteaters…wont be traded
Trevor
July 29th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
“Girardi is really riding his guys hard this past week”
“I’m trying really hard to take the high road here”
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LOL. Boys will be boys.
Again, Bobcat has not posted here in a very long time.
That is a faux-cat.
Why do animals get all the scoops?
There has got to be a way to get Halladay without giving up Hughes, Joba, or Montero.
you guys are creative, let’s hear it!
is it AJax, Romine, ZMac, Melky, Ramiro Pena?
Doesn’t seem like anybody is willing to trade their elite prospects anymore. Perhaps there are fewer dumb people running baseball teams these days.
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The because the economy is bad and many teams like the “minimium wage” that young ballplayers make. Incidentally, the economy was so bad that about 20 free agents were never signed last winter. I would expect the same thing to happen again this season. Those prospects are cheap labor!!!
Too bad for the Yankees…Colon placed on the DL.
Bobcat, you’re such a tease.
take vernon wells’ contract with halladay and it might get done, add melky and 4 prospects.
There has got to be a way to get Halladay without giving up Hughes, Joba, or Montero.
you guys are creative, let’s hear it!
is it AJax, Romine, ZMac, Melky, Ramiro Pena?
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Take on Vernon Wells contract and we might not have to give up anything substantive for Halladay.
Andrew
July 29th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
All 10 of us sheep got the lineup guess wrong. Swisher over Hinske did us in
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I actually thought there might be 10 winners. LOL
Eh I guess I just never liked Radiohead. I put Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, The Eagles, Aerosmith all ahead of them.
What happened to the look of the site. It’s very bland!
Pete, you should check out Marillion’s version of “Fake Plastic Trees” and if you’re saying ‘Marillion who?’ then you should find out who they are. NP here is a great 1974 version of Bruce doing “Let the Four Winds Blow”
Phil-
I am the belief that part of the reason teams are not willing to trade top prospects is the current economic uncertainty. You have young players that you can have pretty much economic certainty with and control over rather than veterans with free agent dollars attached to them etc.
Just look at the texas Rangers because of economic conditions they finally have a team that is doing something but they are having to borrow money from MLB.
cant take wells’ contract. it’s just too terrible, even for the Yanks
Fake Plastic Trees!! Absolutely LOVE Radiohead. One of the most creative, inventive bands out there. Hopefully, we score some runs for Joba and don’t leave him High and Dry. I know that was an awful, awful joke, but I couldn’t resist.
The problem with Wells’ is that contract is beyond bad. The Yankss can’t just “take it on” without there being some seriously ugly consequences.
You’re talking Igawa, Pavvano bad. He’s signed through 2014. It would leave you with a horrendously inflexible outfield.
miggs
July 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
No off day for Posada, Damon, or Matsui.
Girardi is really riding his guys hard this past week.
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as long as they get a day off once a week or so.
girardi does a nice job of resting everybody.
you have to play the best players.
i never like it when 2 regulars are rested at once.
melky,gardner,swish,hinske don’t.
posada,damon,jeter,cano,arod,tex should be rested one at a time.
So, I looked up some numbers based on that Damon stat Pete provided. A-Rod is 10 steals away from that club and Jeter is 7 steals away.
“Along with Beaver and AntEater, the three diligently report any Yankee trade rumors using incredible animal stealth techniques”
all 3 will be on ESPN NEWS at 10pm tonight. And also on Animal Atlas WPIX-NY at 9am every weekday morning
cant take wells’ contract. it’s just too terrible, even for the Yanks
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If they did it probably would mean that we couldn’t sign any big free agents for the next 5 years. In that case, we better hope that our prospects are good enough to replace Rivera, Posada, Petitte and Jeter when they retire.
Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN
July 29th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Bobcat is back!
Along with Beaver and AntEater, the three diligently report any Yankee trade rumors using incredible animal stealth techniques.
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LOL
Cliff Lee doesn’t have the track record that Roy Halladay does.
In fact, it’s not even close.
Saying that Riccardi should accept lesser prospects for Halladay because of the package the Phillies offered for Lee is illogical.
Riccardi is not between a rock and a hard place here, despite what Yankees and Red Sox fans would like to believe.
He’s put Halladay, the best pitcher in the league, on the market to see if he can be blown away by an offer.
If he’s not, he keeps the best pitcher in baseball for another season and a half. He must be devastated.
A package fronted by Austin Jackson, who projects as a solid regular, and other assorted B- prospects is not a logical offer.
People are so loathe to give up either Hughes, who has not shown that he can be a major league starter, and Chamberlain.
Just because you would be giving up a pitcher for a pitcher does not mean they are equal parts in a deal.
Hughes doesn’t equal Halladay.
Chamberlain doesn’t equal Halladay.
Halladay is better than both of them. Much better.
i think the whole idea of making a trade for halladay only if the socks are about to make one is flawed. cash isnt going to know how close boston may be to a deal, even if riccardi says they are. and he certainly wont be able to guage what the potential trade would do for boston b/c he wont know who’s in thier package anyway.
cash is smart, he will decide based on what it does for and to the yankees and thats it. halladay alone doesnt make the socks a lock for anything, imo.
all 3 will be on ESPN NEWS at 10pm tonight. And also on Animal Atlas WPIX-NY at 9am every weekday morning
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Peter Gammon’s teeth rife with delicious termites…sources say…
anybody know what’s going on with Sheets??
I’m out. See ya.
Sheets had surgery and won’t pitch till 2010 at the earliest.
It’s great that the mobile blog is back up.
I’d still rather have the option of getting only 5 or 10 comments per page.
Maybe that’ll get fixed soon.
How many homers do you think Alex will hit by the end of the year? 25, 30, 35+?
Have a great day.
The Yankees are not keen on absorbing a bad contract (Rios or Wells). There are mixed views within the org but the voices that matter have all but ruled it out.
Max July 29th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
anybody know what’s going on with Sheets??
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He probably won’t pitch this season
Pete, didn’t know you were a Red Sox fan. Read it online the other day.
Technically, Led Zeppelin was still a band 30 years ago today.
And the Rolling Stones released a studio album about 4 years ago.
si.com reports boston owner angry over diceK’s “diva act”. wow he was expensive for them and they aren’t please with his act !
Fake Plastic Trees is a great rainy day song. And fun to play on guitar for a mediocre player like me!
Best Radiohead song though is Paranoid Android. Masterpiece. It’s like a symphony.
The problem with Wells’ is that contract is beyond bad. The Yankss can’t just “take it on” without there being some seriously ugly consequences.
You’re talking Igawa, Pavvano bad. He’s signed through 2014. It would leave you with a horrendously inflexible outfield.
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Not totally!!! Remember that even when we had Igawa and Pavano on the team at the same time we were still able to pay Mussina, Abreau, Giambi, Jeter, ARod, Rivera and others. Adding Wells wouldn’t be a catastrophe…it would however, mean that some of those prospects are going to have to be good enough to play for us…so we don’t have to go heavy into free agency over the next 5 years.
steroids kept older players on the field.
this is a big reason why teams are getting younger.
the economy is another.
i agree that the yanks can’t take on wells’ contract, but i truly dont see why they wouldn’t take on Rios’, even with halladay not in the discussion
Meeeeeeh do do be ne na ne nat meh de da, do do be ne na ne nat me de da (Circus Music). (PA announcer) “Please get on your feet and welcome the one, the only, Yankees traveling circus.” (Crowd Cheers) “Staaaring Nick Swisher and Johnny Damon to man act “Lost in the Outfield”.” (Crowd Cheers again)
to = two
Pete would like nothing more than the Yankees to win the WS every year he is covering him. We have all seen Pete’s hard work and diligence so we know how serious he takes his career. The Yankees winning the WS is hands down the best thing for Pete’s exposure and career.
-dennis
rconn23
July 29th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Cliff Lee doesn’t have the track record that Roy Halladay does.
In fact, it’s not even close.
Saying that Riccardi should accept lesser prospects for Halladay because of the package the Phillies offered for Lee is illogical.
Riccardi is not between a rock and a hard place here, despite what Yankees and Red Sox fans would like to believe.
He’s put Halladay, the best pitcher in the league, on the market to see if he can be blown away by an offer.
If he’s not, he keeps the best pitcher in baseball for another season and a half. He must be devastated.
A package fronted by Austin Jackson, who projects as a solid regular, and other assorted B- prospects is not a logical offer.
People are so loathe to give up either Hughes, who has not shown that he can be a major league starter, and Chamberlain.
Just because you would be giving up a pitcher for a pitcher does not mean they are equal parts in a deal.
Hughes doesn’t equal Halladay.
Chamberlain doesn’t equal Halladay.
Halladay is better than both of them. Much better.
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tell that to the mets who gave up absolutely garbage for santanna.
“Lol wow. Not the Beatles, Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones or anything.”
Cmon. They weren’t doing much of anything in the 80s and 90s.
“Why do animals get all the scoops?”
It’s gotta be the shoes.
JT,
Agreed. Paranoid Android is amazing. The whole album is.
Same lineup 3 nights in a row and it’s the best lineup Joe can put out there. Just shows how much Girardi wants to win this series. Hopefully the Yanks go out there and win tonight.
Repost from last thread:
“If JP said, “take out Romine and add Montero and you have a deal”, what do you do Patrick?”
Honestly? Hang up.
I can’t justify giving up Montero who possibly could be a big impact back at the major league level, as soon as next year.
CB’s proposal of adding Banuelos is okay. Not sure I’d give up all 5 of those guys for Halladay but maybe.
Just because the Stones are still throwing together a record, doesn’t make it a good thing.
Off topic, but is anyone else having the format of the blog change every time they either come to the page, refresh the page, or click a post to comment? I am. I’m getting 3 different looks.
2:14pm: Sean McAdam of the Boston Herald reports that the Red Sox are focused on their talks with the Blue Jays. However, Ryan Westmoreland and Casey Kelly are “off-limits” and the Red Sox want to keep Daniel Bard
And Heyman says the Sox are heavily involved for Martinez…….sheesh.
Dethklok is the best band of anyones lifetime. Even sumerian lifetimes.
“If he’s not, he keeps the best pitcher in baseball for another season and a half. He must be devastated.”
He would be if ownership has ordered him to reduce salary, particularly in preparation for a sale of the club.
The blue jays finances are an utter mess. Outside of the usual problems clubs have to deal with with regards to finances he’s had to deal with differences in currencies and the volatility of exchange rates.
They are now in the bottom 5 in attendance. Their ownership has publicly stated that they want to “control costs.”
They are stuck with what might be the worst contract in the AL in Wells and another albatross of a deal with Rios. Those contracts are killing that team, especially wells.
Halladay is the one chip that they could use that will reduce salary and will also bring back young, cost controlled talent that they desperately need.
You’re looking at the trade in terms of “fairness” or equivalence of value.
But that’s not how trades are made. Trades are executed by the dynamics of the market right now.
If JP wants to hold onto Halladay that’s fine.
But the only reason a team even entertains the notion of trading the most talented pitcher in the game is because external factors are driving them to do it – because they have become desperate in some way.
The same kinds of arguments you’re making were exactly what people were saying about Santana. And in the end they got nickels on the dollars and far, far less than what the vast majority of people thought they would.
So JP isn’t compelled to trade him. But he’ll likely get less for him in the winter.
And the Jays aren’t going to be competative in 2010 either – not with the Sox, Yanks and Rays in the division.
So sure – he could wait and lose Halladay after next year and get two draft picks while at the same time spending $20M of ownership’s money on Halladay during a time when he’s been told to cut costs in preparation for the team to be sold.
Bill Smith was absolutely free to keep Santana as well.
Another idea just popped in my head (I’m full of AWESOME ONES!!!! Even more awesome than Brandon) Make a sign with Swish riding a unicycle, Damon in a clown costume, and Melky throwing elephants through concrete walls. That is the Yankee Traveling Circus.
Copyright 7/29/2009
DH
Annette,
Yeah the same is happening to me
““Lol wow. Not the Beatles, Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones or anything.”
Cmon. They weren’t doing much of anything in the 80s and 90s.”
I am more of a grunge rock guy, so I am a bit biased about 90’s rock
OKC — still the best album over the past 12 years.
Fake Plastic Trees is a great rainy day song. And fun to play on guitar for a mediocre player like me!
Best Radiohead song though is Paranoid Android. Masterpiece. It’s like a symphony.
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Paranoid Android is very much inspired from The Beatles
“Happiness is a Warm Gun”
Take 3 song ideas – - Turn them into 1 song.
“Dethklok is the best band of anyones lifetime. Even sumerian lifetimes.”
Haha Metalocalypse is a great show
Bobcat-
keep us informed.
I love underground dissemination of information.
I mean sheesh because everyone is spewing different things – it’s unbelievable
wow new format, is it mobile friendly now?
Banuelos a lefty, is flying through the system, throws a killer change, they’re predicting his CB will be a plus-plus pitch in a year.
No.
“Cliff Lee doesn’t have the track record that Roy Halladay does.
In fact, it’s not even close.
Saying that Riccardi should accept lesser prospects for Halladay because of the package the Phillies offered for Lee is illogical.
Riccardi is not between a rock and a hard place here, despite what Yankees and Red Sox fans would like to believe.
He’s put Halladay, the best pitcher in the league, on the market to see if he can be blown away by an offer.
If he’s not, he keeps the best pitcher in baseball for another season and a half. He must be devastated.
A package fronted by Austin Jackson, who projects as a solid regular, and other assorted B- prospects is not a logical offer.
People are so loathe to give up either Hughes, who has not shown that he can be a major league starter, and Chamberlain.
Just because you would be giving up a pitcher for a pitcher does not mean they are equal parts in a deal.
Hughes doesn’t equal Halladay.
doesn’t equal Halladay.
Halladay is better than both of them. Much better”
JP: is that you?
if so, can you tell me if it was Shannon Stewart you had to reprimand for telling people you looked like a pimp?
Betsy
July 29th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I mean sheesh because everyone is spewing different things – it’s unbelievable
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As I said earlier. Wake me on Friday at 4:01
I’ve always been crazy about Radiohead. My wife couldn’t stand them.
Then one day, I came home and found her listening to Fake Plastic Trees. She had finally gotten it.
That was a great day, and that is a true story.
BTW I am convince that Jeter would win the HRD if he entered it. He hits absolute bombs in batting practice.
Yes Bobcat,
This all possesses a very film noir, All the President’s Men, LA Confidential quality.
ive been saying it for days, its a salary dump, just like the expos used to do (thanks again for wetteland!)
i think he WILL move because they need to move him, and they may end up getting alot less than they would have liked because they waited too long.
cue c-money!
gayle,
it’s even more than that, as teams are now better understanding which prospects will make it and what the value of those prospects are. It’s progress.
The Jays have overplayed their hand. Everyone has turned down their initial price tags for Halladay, and now the Phillies have gotten Lee without using their best prospects and the Red Sox seem to be focused on Victor Martinez.
Should be interesting.
I love the new mobile layout, but when i’m viewing the site on a PC the format switches back and forth depending on the page i’m on.
Just thought i’d throw that out there.
Thanks for the update
“Yankee48 July 29th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
I love the new mobile layout, but when i’m viewing the site on a PC the format switches back and forth depending on the page i’m on.
Just thought i’d throw that out there.
Thanks for the update”
yeah that happened w/ me also
the phillies landed lee and didnt give up anyone on the mlb roster or any of thier top 2 prospects. they are going to the W.S. again.
If the Yanks offer to take on Wells contract, then the Jays would have to take a lesser package of players. What do you guys think?
BEaneoleuasous is like a million years away from the majors. You definitely trade him for the right piece.
“With his 200th career homer on Monday, Johnny Damon is now one of 14 players all-time with at least 200 homers, 300 steals and 2,000 hits. The only other active player is Bobby Abreu.”
I was surprised that A-Rod and Jeter didn’t make this list, so I checked Baseball Reference. They are at 290 and 293 career SBs respectively.
Joba and Jesus Montero? Obviously you havent seen Montero Pete. Went to see him twice in Trenton. Saw him get 2 hits in the AA Allstar game. He’s a monster, he hits for average, has huge home run power, and is and RBI machine. He’s only 19 and he’s headed for AAA. The only thing holding him back is his defense. As much as I like Austin Romine who’s at high A ball and the other highly thought of catcher the Yanks have I would include him in deal. They just signed Gary Sanchez a 16 year international signing who has the tools as a hitter that Montero does.
yanksfan7788
July 29th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
If the Yanks offer to take on Wells contract, then the Jays would have to take a lesser package of players. What do you guys think
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not happening.
I saw Jesus Montero from behind home plate in Tampa and watched him crush a 419 foot out vs High A Detroit.
Gotta keep jesus
Pete is a SAWX fan????
I knew he was a New England Patriots fan but not a sawx. I’m disgusted.
had to turn Michael Kay off today. Too overbearing
trying to tell Yankee fans what they want
“Radiohead…the greatest band of the last 30 years.”
Radiohead rules!! But the above statement is not true. U2 is the greatest band of the last 30 years.
I’d take on Well’s contract but they have to take back Igawa and Posada’s contract (Yes, I said Jorge). He is going to end up being 80% DH and 20% catcher for the next 2 years and makes a lot of money.
We also have Damon coming off the books. Players are cheaper these days – just ask Abreu. I think the Yanks could handle the awful contract of Vernon Wells.
What if the Yanks take ½ of Wells’ contract?
Ooooo, I like the mobile version…
I’d take on Well’s contract but they have to take back Igawa and Posada’s contract (Yes, I said Jorge). He is going to end up being 80% DH and 20% catcher for the next 2 years and makes a lot of money.
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Can’t trade Jorge, 10/5 guy, and also most likely has a no-trade anyways
Evan,
Use your noodle.
He roots for the Patriots, and he is a baseball writer. Oh, well, he just happened not to root for a baseball team while growing up?
Ham Fighters July 29th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
the phillies landed lee and didnt give up anyone on the mlb roster or any of thier top 2 prospects. they are going to the W.S. again.
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They are going DOWN in the WS…
“Hughes doesn’t equal Halladay.
Chamberlain doesn’t equal Halladay.
Halladay is better than both of them. Much better.”
True, but do you know how rookie contracts work?
Everyone talks about the Phillies lineup, its pretty dangerous, in the National League. When they meet the Yankees in the World Series they are going to see what a real murderers row is.
Brad Lidge sux….
Sanchez offering the Pirates a 3 year deal ?
When’s the last time you heard of a player making an offer>
That dude must really love those pierogies.
….Halladay is older than both of them. Much older.
Jays have run out of leverage. They’re not gonna get what they asked for and now they’re either gonna have to keep him or accept a lesser package.
The more I read about the Pirates the more angry I get for their fans. Freddy Sanchez wants to stay with the team, they have a deal in place with SF and he goes to the Pirates and asks for a 3 year deal $6M, $6.5M, $7.5M and the Pirates said no.
If you cannot even make a committment to someone who wants to be part of the future what is the point are you going to play rookies at every position.
…Well, depending on who’s making them, pierogis are worth their weight in gold.
Ok last thread I said the max I’d give up for Halladay is Jackson, Romine, McAllister and Melancon. CB added on Banuelos.
How would that deal change if the Yankees agreed to take on Rios?
I don’t think the Yanks will get Rios or Halladay but it’s fun to talk about.
Man, at this point you feel bad for Sanchez. Must have some relatives or friends in the area…moving halfway across the country is no small thing.
The more I think about it and look at the players involved, I wish the Yankees would have had the opportunity to get Lee and Francisco.
2010 Club option on Lee for 8M, 31yo, lefty, would have been reunited with CC.
Francisco, 27 yo righty with power, LF’er
whose played CF when Sizemore out, 5 assists and only one error.
The Indians got a pitcher with a sore shoulder in Knapp, Carrasco with his >5.0 ERA, a marginal catcher, and an infielder who can’t hit.
Steal. We could have made that trade with better parts, and still had parts to trade for another bullpen arm!! To boot we would have kept most, if not all of our favorite minor leaguer’s.
THE PHILLIES GOT A NEW TOY TODAY AND I WANT ONE TOO!
This is why I hate revenue sharing. The Pirates are content developing players, trading them at their peak, and collecting the money. I would HATE to be a Pirates fan!
gayle
that’s why MLB doesn’t have the full national appeal that the NFL does now……….I mean how frustrating would it be to go to games, watch on t.v. if your team unloads any talent you have every single season like the Pirates do, the Sanchez situation is an example of this…it almost indirectly sends a message to fans to stop attending games after July for the majority of the baseball markets…I think it’s an issue MLB has to work on somehow…there’s no perfect solution
i think that the yankees should trade for Halladay,
Hughes, Jackson, and other prospect…
most of you guys like hughes, i understand… but… hughes is not the best pitcher RIGHT NOW… we can always sign him back, if he turns out to be great, through free agency or trade.
think about it… do u want a championship NOW? or in the future?
and also, what if the BOSOX get halladay? that’s going to be tough for us, specially we are 0-8 againts them…
Eric
July 29th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
This is why I hate revenue sharing. The Pirates are content developing players, trading them at their peak, and collecting the money. I would HATE to be a Pirates fan!
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I agree with that. Any half decent player on the Pirates gets traded. This is the exact reason MLB needs a salary FLOOR
Some deals are just not worth making, and taking on Wells’ contract is one of those. Taking on Rios would be a stretch, IMO, but it’s a little less strangling.
I also think if they tak on Rios, it’s a given that Damon and Matsui will not be back. And while many here are a-ok with that, and while that may be what ultimately happens, if Rios comes to NY, Damon is no dummy and would see the writing on the wall. He’s only human. How do you think the so-called “chemistry” of this team would be affected? I don’t worry about Matsui as much in that regard. But Damon seems to be an emotional guy. And he loves playing for the Yankees and has said he’d love to come back. To have to finish out the year kind of knowing that’s not going to happen, I think it has to have some affect. Not saying he wouldn’t be an absolute professional, and not saying that the drive for a ring wouldn’t override any personal disappointments. But the disappointment would probably be there, under the surface.
Just a thought.
A perfect solution would be to require owners to make an honest effort to win games or else take control of the team, but that will never happen
Rebecca he is a west coast guy born in California and went to school in Texas. I just dont get why the Pirates would say no, is there someone in their system better than him
hughes is not the best pitcher RIGHT NOW… we can always sign him back, if he turns out to be great, through free agency or trade.
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There is absolutely no guarantee that you will sign back a player that you traded.
Hughes and Chamberlain are major league pitchers *right now*, if Cliff Lee doesn’t get a major league player then Halladay doesnt either.
I agree with that. Any half decent player on the Pirates gets traded. This is the exact reason MLB needs a salary FLOOR
*****
I laugh when people bad mouth NY for spending money. It’s even worse for the game to NOT spend money and pocket other people’s money.
“Ooooo, I like the mobile version…”
same here, its awesome…
Guys…. Please stop w/ the embarrassing “greatest band” stuff. You all sound like dj’s at some miserable hick “hits” station.
Seriously…U2? Maybe some horizon- broadening is in order…go listen to The Fall, or Boredoms, or something….ANYTHING
What’s the “Delay in Game” PIT/SF game? Is Sanchez arguing dollars and years?
I know Pete suggested Joba as part of ‘mysthical’ Halladay deal…but I would be upset if that happen….I want Joba to be a difference maker once the Yanks win another championship and he will be loved more b/c he is home grown…and you can get over 10 years from him
Please listen to my indie band, we’re The Lintrollers.
Eric
July 29th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I agree with that. Any half decent player on the Pirates gets traded. This is the exact reason MLB needs a salary FLOOR
*****
I laugh when people bad mouth NY for spending money. It’s even worse for the game to NOT spend money and pocket other people’s money.
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I have a friend in texas who hates the Yankees more than anyone with their freespending ways. Even he agrees a salary floor would help teams actually compete within their divisions.
Evan D.
As a 10 / 5 player I dont believe Jorge Posada can be traded without his consent.
I cant understand the lack of respect and Jorge hate in here sometimes.He’s one of the best clutch hitters on the team and is wayyyy above league average this year in ops, ops+, slugging % and batting average. He may not be the best defensive catcher in the league, but the 21 runners he’s thrown out on attempted steals is topped only by Gerald Laird (23).He doesnt block balls well, but he’s adequate defensively.
I like U2. They played at my school for free in March.
Right now I’m listening to mediaeval baebes. Which I guarantee none of you have ever listened to.
The fact that the Indians got nothing special for Cliff Lee leads one to think that maybe the Yanks were never in it, as I am sure Yanks could have easily put together a stronger package than the Phils did.
What about obtaining Jon Garland for the 5th starter? Arizona would love to dump his contract so we can probably get him for two low level prospects.
If I were the pirates I wouldn’t have signed Sanchez to a 3 year $20M deal either.
Good luck to him finding that deal on the open market.
He’s not that good. Whatever marginal value he produces for the pirates won’t make any difference to the fate of the franchise over the next 3 years.
He’s not a guy that’s a key to lock up for a team like the Pirates. Too many needs.
I am listening to Explodination by Killcreek Explosion, which I guarantee none of you have heard, because if you had, you’d be dead!
I have a friend in texas who hates the Yankees more than anyone with their freespending ways. Even he agrees a salary floor would help teams actually compete within their divisions.
*****
I understand where fans would hate the Yankees, I would too if I didn’t love them!
What about obtaining Jon Garland for the 5th starter? Arizona would love to dump his contract so we can probably get him for two low level prospects.
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No. Sergio Mitre >= Jon Garland (spell your name right JOHN)
Now listening to Melancholy Sandwhich by Maroon Swoon
would someone mind posting the mobile version’s URL please?
Sanchez is a nice NL player. Numbers would be quite different in the AL
Quite different
losing posada’s bat would hurt.
we can overcome gardners injury by waiting it out & bringing up an outfielder.
we need a starting pitcher & a bullpen arm.
wow – how doesn’t cashman get in on a Cliff Lee deal when the phillies basically gave up minimal for him? Its nice to spend uncle steineys money and sign all the big names but that doesn’t take any brains to do….if you can get Lee without given up joba or hughes (or montero) how are you NOT first in line on those talks?!?!?
If/when Joba spits the bit again tonight – we’ll be back to a few weeks ago when we have CC (and how good did HE look yesterday?)AJ and then praying for pitching help…
its stupid moves (or non moves) like this that make me think cashman really is in over his head in making smart trades to help the club out – thinking joba is the old joba, andy will pitch like he did in 1998 and sergio mitre is the answer is almost as dumb as thinking putting both phil hughes and ian kennedy in the starting rotation at the same time was a good idea….
getting lee not only would have helped this year but would have been a Godsend next year when they will be 2 pitchers down again (without wang and pettite) –
just really dumb…
What’s the “Delay in Game” PIT/SF game? Is Sanchez arguing dollars and years?
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Pirates are still busy recruiting homeless people to play infield.
Is there a different link to the mobile version of the blog?
i wonder if cashman had a chance at lee & why cleveland demanded joba or hughes when they turned around & took no ml players & what looks like not that great of a package.
Drive 4-5
July 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Evan D.
As a 10 / 5 player I dont believe Jorge Posada can be traded without his consent.
I cant understand the lack of respect and Jorge hate in here sometimes.He’s one of the best clutch hitters on the team and is wayyyy above league average this year in ops, ops+, slugging % and batting average. He may not be the best defensive catcher in the league, but the 21 runners he’s thrown out on attempted steals is topped only by Gerald Laird (23).He doesnt block balls well, but he’s adequate defensively.
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I have given up trying to figure this one out myself. I think the reason I have given up is because the stance is indefensible. My conclusion: dislike based on some fathomless emotional response to the player, which has ended my curiosity.
i think the indians demanded joba or hughes.
its stupid moves (or non moves) like this that make me think cashman really is in over his head in making smart trades to help the club out – thinking joba is the old joba, andy will pitch like he did in 1998 and sergio mitre is the answer is almost as dumb as thinking putting both phil hughes and ian kennedy in the starting rotation at the same time was a good idea….
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You have no idea what moves were made or not made. Both Hughes and Kennedy lit up the minor leagues and posted sub 3 ERAs in september and were alright in spring training. Hughes injured his ribs and Kennedy suffered from stage fright.
Not much you can do about that.
Maybe lets give Cash the benefit of the doubt. Maybe, hes got a bigger fish on the line, bigger than Lee, which would be nice
doreen, sorry to say it, but johnny damon’s gone no matter what. he can barely play the OF any more and his wheels are gone. he’s still an excellent hitter, but i dont see them bringing him back no matter what. and sorry to say it but if johnny wants to sulk about it, it will just cost him money from whomever he signs with next season.
besides i think damon has too much pride to let that happen. if they brought in another OF, he’d still contribute, he’s always overcome in his career.
you cant make decisions based on hurting people’s feelings, sorry to say that even for a great guy like johnny damon, it is a buisness and you’ve got to make decisions on that basis.
I am heading out now. Got lots to do tonight so I will catch you all later in the game.
Remember, due to the 8pm start tomorrow, “Guess the Line Up” will begin promptly at 3pm!!!
Sergio Mitre plain and simple stinks
I would imagine the Indians wanted more from the Yanks than they did from the Phillies. There preference had to be to send him someplce where he’s not potentially competing for a Wild Card berth with or facing 3 times a year.
CB–
Exactly who will the Pirates build their team with. Every good player they have had they trade away. I am just very confused by what they are doing.
Kid A,
I didn’t get it at first either. I thought Thom Yorke was too “whiny” for my tastes.
I think Idioteque was my converter. After hearing it a few times, it just sank in. And then I started liking more and more Radiohead. Paranoid Android will probably go down as the song I am most in awe of though. I cant imagine a song blowing my mind more than that.
Right, Cashman didn’t inquire int obtaining Cliff Lee…….really dumb. Why do people assume that because the Yankees don’t trade for someone, they didn’t look into it? It was in all the papers – Shapiro demanded at least Joba/Hughes…….So, tell me what a great GM he is that he took such a mediocre package from the Phils for his Cy Young winner
Dringo bell, How’s that rebecca
bru
July 29th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
i think the indians demanded joba or hughes.
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,,to which Cashman said, ‘demand this…’
as you know, ive been pushing for cliff lee…i realize we wont get halladay, and if we do, we will just hurt our team by giving up quality players like hughes who are helping this team.
i asked people if they would deal jackson, romine, melancon, and mcallister for cliff lee.
a few people respected my thoughts, most laughed, either saying the yanks should never do that, or the indians would never do it…now the indians got a mediocre package for lee…and the yankees need a starter for this year and next, and cliff lee would have fit in so nicely.
im not sure why cliff lee isnt a yankee right now, but maybe the indians asked for a lot more because it was the yanks, or because it was the AL…or maybe they didnt like the yankee prospects…or maybe it is because cashman dropped the ball.
I think if the Yankees felt the need to make a move they will. Say if Boston is in serious business optaining Halliday, I think the Yanks will swoop in and just over match the deal. So i think just wait and see before you judge Cashman on what deals have or have not been made.
“I agree with that. Any half decent player on the Pirates gets traded. This is the exact reason MLB needs a salary FLOOR”
I used to think this. Until i saw the outcome of the NFL the last 10 years.
once upon a time, the NFL used to have great powerhouse teams and dynasties. Now it is a league in which any team can win any year. A sea of mediocrity. A league in which bean-counters are more valuable then a Vince Lombardi, coaches, and players. And players change teams like they’re changing shoes.
(the New England Patriots withstanding)
Cash, knows the price of everything and if there’s one thing you should have learned about him by now is that he’s got the patience of a saint. He’ll wait till he sees a deal that “makes” ie. one he gets on his terms. This is how he operates, with the rare exception of the CC salvo.
the indians did a terrible job in who they got in return for lee.
you have to get the best package you can.
Nice mobile version of the blog! My link in my phone updated to it automatically. Loads much faster.
And players change teams like they’re changing shoes.
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There is far more team changing in baseball than football. Footballs problem is that good teams cannot get great players to become great teams unless they find a bargain or have salary cap space. So most teams usually end up in the same general area depending on how they draft/luck in salary cap room in a particular free agent class.
But there are almost no trades and many players spend all their time on 1 or 2 teams max, usually 1 team then washing out(such is the life of a football player).
dan…
i rather have cliff lee for 4 minor leaguers, especially one that doesnt involve a player like montero…instead of dealing montero, jackson, and hughes for halladay.
so…in my opinion, i feel like cashman missed an opportunity here to greatly help the ball club.
and i still believe we need another bullpen (set up man) arm…a lefty would be nice.
man does Micheal Kay hate Hughes
Any word on Wang’s surgery?
Not that I expect a Dr. to say it went poorly but wondering if the damage they thought they’d find is what they found.
Cashmans not the “dumb” one here-Shapiro is for not getting two better pitching prospects, a better middle infielder prospect, and a catching prospect from our dearth of catchers. If I’m an Indians loyal fan, I’m dumping my season tickets.
No one here knows if Cashman missed an opportunity. You have no idea. Unless a newspaper report says, ‘Cleveland offered Lee to the yankees for x, y, and z in the 12th hour and Cashman said no’, you can’t blame him. The Indians reported price for Lee was much greater for the yankees than what the Phils had to pay. You don’t know if Cashman offered Z-mac, whomever, and whatever for him.
Blame Cash if you know he is fault. Don’t project.
SO what if the Yanks pull a trade for Heath Bell then they trade Hughes Jackson and ???? for Halladay. They then fit the 8th inn role and get that starter to replace Wangs spot.
I wanted Nate McLouth on the Yankee team and was told by a hot shot(no names mention)here, why would Pitt trade him he’s the center-piece of their team, Pitt doesn’t care who they have on the team everyone is trade bait
Gammons thinks the Yankees are going after Duke.
Its not what Cashman would or would not give up. Its what Cleveland would accept from the Yankees in return.
Cashman doesn’t control what Mark Shapiro wants in return for Cliff Lee. Nor can he control what JP would take for Halladay.
cash probably was told by shapiro that it would take hughes or joba.cash said i can’t do that.
cash said if anything changes give me a call or give me a last call & give me a chance to match it.
vinny-B
At least in the NFL you can dump a bloated contract of a player not performing, without owing them the remainder of their deal.
I don’t think Boston can top any Yankee proposal with Joba as the centerpiece.
Gayle,
I’m confused by what they’re doing as well, but perhaps for different reasons.
They’ve essentially taken the strategic decision in making all of these trades that they will take “quantity” in prospects more than “quality.”
I think they’ve gone overboard with that strategy. They needed to mix things up more in their approach.
Their fundamental problem hasn’t been getting rid of a player like Sanchez – it’s years of disastrous drafting and a remarkable inability to develop pitchers. The Dave Littlefield regime was as toxic as it gets. You just don’t recover from that easily or quickly.
That’s the reason why they’ve tried to get a bunch of player like Ohlendorf – let’s see what sticks? That’s the strategy they’ve built their trades on.
The players they are going to build around are Andrew McCutcheon and possible Andy LaRoche. The key guys in the franchise right now are in the minors – a lot is riding on Pedro Alvarez.
Cashman missed an opportunity? What was he supposed to do, hold a gun to Shapiro’s head? Shapiro made a terrible trade at his own team’s expense – hilarious.
Brandon, Kay has never liked Hughes. What is he saying now? Let me guess, it’s more of the same – the kid will never amount to jack as a starter so trade him before he proves that he just can’t pitch.
“And players change teams like they’re changing shoes”
jerkface: ok. Tho, i believe you know what i was trying to say. The NFL has a different feeling then what i grew up with. A “blah” feeling. Thankfully, i have a team to pull for (the Jets) otherwise, i wouldn’t really have a reason to watch.
college football (minus the polls/no playoff system) is quite the opposite. IMO
Who would boston give up for Halladay?
Bard and who else? Lester or Ellsbury?
Personally I think the yanks should stand pat and biuld. I think trading the future for the 18 month of guranteed halladay is a bit much.
I’m with cash… lets stay the course.
longtime:
I am impressed! Not one of my favorites, though. I prefer Adam Lay Ibounden, Gaudete and Salva Nos
i have learned to trust C-money and his stealthiness! negotiating through the media is not his style, im interested to see what his move is.
SO what if the Yanks pull a trade for Heath Bell then they trade Hughes Jackson and ???? for Halladay. They then fit the 8th inn role and get that starter to replace Wangs spot.
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Presently Hughes is a better setup reliever than Bell would be.
LOL What else is Gammons saying? No one knows anything. Sean McAdams is saying the Sox are in deep discussions with the Jays, Heyman is saying the Sox are concentrating on Martinez…….My head is spinning just from all the info that’s being put out there.
jerkface: ok. Tho, i believe you know what i was trying to say. The NFL has a different feeling then what i grew up with. A “blah” feeling. Thankfully, i have a team to pull for (the Jets) otherwise, i wouldn’t really have a reason to watch.
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I agree that the NFL has pretty good parity and i understand how that might affect a fan’s enjoyment, but I grew up watching the Bucs so its not like I enjoyed the dynasty years or anything until the late 90’s when the Bucs got a great defense.
“man does Micheal Kay hate Hughes”
it would almost be worth dumping Hughes, and not have to hear Michael Kay use the term “phil-thees”
“man does Micheal Kay hate Hughes”
it would almost be worth dumping Hughes, and not have to hear Michael Kay use the term “phil-thees”
RT @Ledger_Yankees Ace unavailable again tonight. –Carig
Perhaps I’m in the minority, but I can’t say I’m all that interested in what Michael Kay thinks of Hughes, or anyone else.
If Cashman gives up either Hughes or Joba, I’m giving up baseball.
I doubt he does either, fortunately.
boy, that’s not good news……..how many days is it now? Maybe Ace can’t handle the strain of pitching in the pen – he did say at the beginning of the season that he wasn’t sure how he’d react.
From the Pittsburgh perspective, they didn’t have 6 real prospects in the organization going into this season.
I think their organizational philosophy is, load up on as many guys as you can and replenish the system.
I know Tony’s West Virginia team has some interesting guys.
Sterling Marte is an 18 year old, 6-4 OF who can fly. He’s got all the tools and is an impressive physical specimen.
Robbie Grossman is a 19 CF with excellent speed and his bat has come on this season.
Rudy Owens, a 19 LH, is 10-1.
You add Tony to the mix and that’s 4 prospects that have legitimate upside.
When you look at their AA and AAA rosters though, the talent is really thin. Pedro still needs work, Brad Lincoln has struggled in AAA and there aren’t 4 other guys on both the AA or AAA rosters that you would call legitimate prospects.
That’s how barren the system was under Dave Littlefield.
Its a monumental undertaking to try and fix that franchise and I understand the fans frustration with how the Pirates are going about doing it.
Just don’t know what else you can do in their siutation.
This is my number one problem with Kay lets here him talk about Hughes on the YES Broadcast the way he talks about him on his ESPN Show. Not going to happen. Did the same thing with Moose slammed him left and right on the radio show then when it came time to broadcast talked great.
Gammons said it seems that the Jays aren’t that high on the labtop stealer. Also that he doesn’t think they want Joba either, it would take Hughes. I really don’t think he knows anything….just speaks.
“At least in the NFL you can dump a bloated contract of a player not performing, without owing them the remainder of their deal”
yes. Definitely a plus.
Cashman appears to be sticking to a plan, and its actually starting to show signs of success. Therefore I agree that he won’t trade hughes or chamberlain.
“Brandon, Kay has never liked Hughes. What is he saying now? Let me guess, it’s more of the same – the kid will never amount to jack as a starter so trade him before he proves that he just can’t pitch.”
Gammons: I don’t think the Jays want Joba, they want Hughes but the Yankees ppl I spoke to do not want to deal him.
Kay: Peter that’s where I think your wrong see I think they would trade him for Doc, I’m sorry but Hughes will never be Roy Halladay. You could trade him and slide Joba into the BP.
Me: WTH?! what did we solve there? You traded a SP for SP same crap! Joba SP goes into BP Doc is really traded for Joba while Hughes is sent to Toronto. Nothing changes here, and Hughes looks like 96′ Mo so what the….I wish I could punch him. Srsly.
Gammons thinks the Yankees are going after Duke.
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If that is true it would be a smart move. young lefty who is a groundball pitcher….he is no Doc or lee but a lot cheaper
“Gammons said it seems that the Jays aren’t that high on the labtop stealer”
imagine that
SJ, that’s exactly why I’ve been saying Yankees and Pirates hook up again and Yankees send 1B types and middlin’ pitching. You know better than most of us that there are few if any 1B in the Pirates’ system.
SJ, that’s exactly why I’ve been saying Yankees and Pirates hook up again and Yankees send 1B types and middlin’ pitching. You know better than most of us that there are few if any 1B in the Pirates’ system.
I want the Yankees to trade for Ryan Doumit in the offseason. He’d make an excellent stop gap paired with Cervelli while Montero and/or Romine polish their catching skills.
“When you look at their AA and AAA rosters though, the talent is really thin. Pedro still needs work, Brad Lincoln has struggled in AAA and there aren’t 4 other guys on both the AA or AAA rosters that you would call legitimate prospects.”
That’s the problem and why the moves their making at the major league level I’m sure look so puzzling to their fan base.
Littlefield was both such a disaster and there for so long it puts the Bucs is a very strange position.
There’s no way to recover from years of Daniel Moskos (it’s still hard to believe…)
And that puts a lot of hopes on some very young players. I’d guess Tony feels that. It’s a tough spot to be in for the kids in the system.
And what’s happenning with Pedro this year must really have the franchise worried.
I’m still trying to figure out if its a good or bad thing that we wont make a trade.
“Its not what Cashman would or would not give up. Its what Cleveland would accept from the Yankees in return.
Cashman doesn’t control what Mark Shapiro wants in return for Cliff Lee. Nor can he control what JP would take for Halladay.”
This is correct.
Once you get past Joba, Hughes and Montero, there’s going to be a wide variation in how teams view our prospects.
Take AJax. We think he’s going to be good, but some teams may think he’ll never develop enough power, or cut down enough on his strikeouts, or amount to more than a fourth OF. You just don’t know.
Same goes for Romine, McCallister, Melancon, what have you. When it comes to prospects, it’s the variation in views that’s the thing.
Yankee Trader
July 29th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
SO what if the Yanks pull a trade for Heath Bell then they trade Hughes Jackson and ???? for Halladay. They then fit the 8th inn role and get that starter to replace Wangs spot.
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Presently Hughes is a better setup reliever than Bell would be
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So you are saying then Halladay is not better then any starter we have?
I am not saying this a possibilty but I think it solves every problem.
RT @TylerKepner Yanks trade for Jason Hirsh (RHP) from COL, depth at AAA.
http://www.baseball-reference......ja01.shtml
I would love the Yanks to get Duke and not have to give up Ajax or Jesus.
I’m trading Hughes and whatever it takes to get Doc & Rios here,no Joba not now. Doc becomes the #1 SP & Rios becomes the #1 OF
Halladay is pitching a beauty in Seattle right now. His price is going up …….
At this point, the Yankees shouldn’t have to put Hughes or Joba in a Doc deal because the Lee deal changes the landscape.
If Boston doesn’t include Bard in a deal, and they have said he’s off limits, its pretty tough for Toronto to send him to Boston.
Toronto holding onto Halladay kills them in the winter because baseball business this winter could be ugly from a financial standpoint. That will make it even tougher to move him for anything of value. That however, is their problem.
In the end, the Yankees can hold firm and if JP doesn’t like their offer, move onto other opportunities with other teams.
Cash’s big move, lol
I’m not familiar with Duke, but I know he’s young and has some talent; why would the Bucs trade him?
Scouting report on Jason Hirsch?
Rebecca lets hope that isn’t the one trade the Yanks make.
sorry – been in meetings all week, just checking in – can someone share the details of the Lee deal?
Kay is an idiot. He said he thinks the Yanks would trade Hughes for Halladay but they wouldn’t want to trade Montero. Then he says how can you stop yourself from getting Doc because you wouldn’t want to trade a 19 year old? Umm..yeah he would be a great GM trading by age not talent. It is obvious he says things on the radio just to get people to listen. How stupid…
Gayle, what did Kay say? Was my guess right? LOL
Hirsh is terrible, I hope we gave up the fringiest of fringe prospects for him. I’m surprised we couldn’t find a filler starter like him in the independent leagues
Betsy July 29th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Cash’s big move, lol
I’m not familiar with Duke, but I know he’s young and has some talent; why would the Bucs trade him?
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Apparently, because he gets a paycheck.
Betsy for the same reason the Bucs trade everyone else so that they can re tool the system.
Captain’s Corner, I’ve heard that too, that the Jays love Hughes. I really just hope Doc stays put at this point.
Scouting report on Jason Hirsch?
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Plus-Plus tallness
Poor command
Ability to breathe in thin air
because we called within the last 15 minutes, includes free humidor for NYS
Duke or Duscherer would be smart moves, sorry for the spelling. They may need two guys this year. Duke I believe they would control past this year as they will need another starter and Duscherer could be resigned for the pen, as a starter or just let him walk after this year. Just like the OF the Yankees will have an issue with the rotation again. Andy looks just about done so I wouldn’t bring him back. And Hughes will have his limited innings. They will be thin with guys to help from the minors with so many guys not developing this year where they should have or getting hurt.
“Scouting report on Jason Hirsch?”
The yankees are desperate for starters at Scranton. They keep having bull pen arms make spot starts.
I don’t know anything about hirsch but he seems like a AAA org guy to fill in some innings.
SJ
No frustration here as a Pirates fan. I’ve been a Yankee fan for 35 years since growing up in CT. Here in the Burgh we have the Stillers and the Pens for now to keep everyone happy.
Littlefield screwed the team, and it takes time to restock the minors. PNC is a great place to see a game, and I hope to see your nephew there sooner than later.
The Nuttings have another few years to decide to spend money on the club before the fanbase totally turns on them. At that point, they may sell to Mark Cuban (who grew up in Mt. Lebanon, a suburb of Pittsburgh–I used to take care of his uncle).
“WTH?! what did we solve there? You traded a SP for SP same crap! Joba SP goes into BP Doc is really traded for Joba while Hughes is sent to Toronto. Nothing changes here, and Hughes looks like 96? Mo so what the….I wish I could punch him. Srsly”
yes. I had to turn him off today, after the first 30 minutes. In general, he places zero value on youth. Is open to trading Montero etc. He is trying to tell Yankee fans, what Yankee fans want. Yankee fans don’t want to repeat 2002-2007. Kay is out of touch with the fanbase
Betsy I am not listening to the show just based on comments I read here and past listening experiences with him lol.
Quite frankly Hughes has had a few good months, Halliday has had several great years. There is a big difference in prospects potential and what they eventually become. I like Hughes, I like everything about him, but if the Yanks can get Halliday for him I`d go for it, and if Boston gets Halliday, all the CC Burnett and Tex $$$$ goes to waste because the Yanks won`t catch them. Those falling in love with potential minor leaguers, blue chip cant miss prospects should really root for other teams, teams that rely on youth to build their team. Root for Minnesota as the Yanks need to use their resources
Hirsh is likely just an arm for Scranton. Their rotation is overstretched as is.
Halladay is pitching a beauty in Seattle right now. His price is going up …….
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There is no way for his price to get higher. Pitching well doesn’t increase Halladays price because he is already viewed as the best pitcher ever. Infact, getting another start decreases his value as its one less he’d make for the team that trades for him.
Bret, I thought the same thing about Ryan Doumit. He can catch, play rightfeild or first. Plus, he’s a switch-hitter with some pop. If they intend on maing the D.H. spot a rotating one, then getting a guy like Ryan Doumit would be a huge plus.
Bucs would deal him cause he is due for a raise this offseason and should make around 5 million he is 2 years away from FA… I would think a package of Z-Mac, Robertson and Bliech could get it done
Yanks traded for RHP Jason Hirsh, I don’t know what they gave up yet.
Brandon, thanks!
Kay is getting what HE wants confused with what the Yankees want. I am absolutely sure that the Yankees will not trade Phil……..and so what if he doesn’t become Doc? What are the odds that Joba will become him or Bucholz or ANY PITCHER? Phil doesn’t have to become Doc – the fact is, he’s a highly talented pitcher with great makeup. He could easily be a top flight pitcher for a long time and if he does, that’s great. How many Halladays are out there? Not CC, not Beckett, not anyone…….it doesn’t mean they aren’t terrific pitchers.
CB,
From Tony’s perspective, and really the perspective of any of the kids who are legit prospects in A Ball, what the Pirates are doing is actually good for them.
It makes them see a finish line to getting to the big leagues.
Its pretty clear this management team wants the guys they have drafted to make it and show they know what they are doing.
That means kids like Marte, Tony, Pedro, Grossman, Owens, etc, will get the most personal attention from all of the coaches, from the roving instructors on down.
They also will be promoted aggressively if they show the ability to handle it.
Once you get to the big club? That’s a different deal.
At that point, you know you will probably get traded once you start making big money.
However, kids like Tony and the other guys in A Ball would kill to be in that position because it would mean they are quality major league players.
What would it take to get Zack Duke?
Jason Hirsh
Reega! Oh that’s Judd Hirsh sorry
For those of you who wanted Cash to take Cliff Lee I ask do you think that would have forced the RSox to take Halladay? Sometimes things aren’t as obvious as they seem. Perhaps the Indians are thinking if we trade Lee to an AL team we will have to beat them to get to the WS. Indians have a reat minor league system just like the Blue Jays, so they are trying to fill specific roles more that certain talent. The Jays want a SP & a SS. The Indians need SP as well. If the Indians were willing to wait until tomorrow, then Lee might have been in play for the Yankees but I doubt it. Now it is up to the Blue Jays to accept the Dodgers bid or Yankees IMO. I believe the RSox will get VMart. Yanks get Rios & Halladay.
How is Doc’s price getting higher? Teams don’t know how good he is without him pitching well against the Ms?
Sterling Marte?
There’s a name the Yankees really need to stear clear of.
UPDATE, 5:22 p.m.: Yankees obtained RHP Jason Hirsch from Colorado for a PTBNL. He was sent to AAA.
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Does this mean that the market for Kei Igawa is heating up?
Jacob Hirsh??? now a Yankee??? does anyone know why?
Thanks, guys.
Rowland-Smith is the one throwing the no-hitter.
3.50 ERA in the NL translates to maybe 4.5 to 5.0 in AL
the PTBNL will be Jason Hirsch
Hey Pete:
Nice song choice. Who are you Vinnie Chase as he’s staring out the Window reminiscing about his time with Ari???
“Yanks traded for RHP Jason Hirsh”
Jason Hirsh from Taxi ?
halladay is great that is not up for debate.
hughes is 23 how was Doc at 23? philliy got lee much cheaper then halladays asking price… lee is not as good but is younger and cheaper….
montero is not rich gerren or some other prospect.. Montero is the best hitting prospect in the minors, comprehend that?? he is 19, he is not hensley meulens or ruben rivera…..teams are more accurate in pegging stars then they use to be…..
“the PTBNL will be Jason Hirsch”
he’s an arm for AAA, we are putting BP arms into the starting rotation there the last few games, now we can put some back to thier spots.
they got hirsch because he is slightly better then kei igawa and yanks need just in case guys……
pettitte get’s hurt they are screwed…..
SJ,
That makes a lot of sense. It’s true – when a new regime comes in they are going to be highly invested in the people they bring on board (true of any kind of business…).
So I could see how the franchise would be hyper-invested in Tony doing well and doing well quickly. More than even a usual first round pick was invested in.
It’s good to see him doing so well.
I am a huge Hughes fan, but for Halladay if he was the centerpiece you have to make that move as long as Joba and Montero are definitely not in the package too. What are the Sox offering? Bucholz who after his recent callup hasn’t shown much. Then they don’t want to move their better chips and toss in Bowden and maybe someone else. Why would the Jays do that, but require Joba and Hughes plus more. Makes zero sense. The Sox rightfully don’t want to give up too much as their minor league talent is getting thinner and lower A ball guys. You trade them away and they are in trouble. Remember Beckett is FA in two years, Paps soon, VTek will be done, Ortiz, Bay may take a hike, they will have a lot to figure out going forward.
What would it take to get Zack Duke?
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I would think a package of Z-Mac, Robertson and Bliech could get it done
I’m all with Halladay & Rios coming this way
The yankees are desperate for starters at Scranton. They keep having bull pen arms make spot starts.
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Yeah you’re right. In Scranton they only have two starters…Kei Igawa and Josh Towers. Supposedly the mantra there is, “Igawa and Towers and pray for showers”.:)
“the PTBNL will be Jason Hirsch”
he’s an arm for AAA, we are putting BP arms into the starting rotation there the last few games, now we can put some back to thier spots.
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I’m saying that at the end of the season, when the PTBNL is named, it will be Jason Hirsch.
Hirsh was a pretty big prospect for the Astros a couple of years back. I am pretty sure he has had some arm trouble. He was part of the deal that sent Jason Jennings to the Astros.
Judd Hirsch!!!
I love Taxi!!!
“he’s an arm for AAA, we are putting BP arms into the starting rotation there the last few games, now we can put some back to thier spots.”
Brandon,
So youre saying we picked him up just to play for our Triple AAA team?
Hirsch was actually a fairly highly thought of prospect at one time IIRC. He was traded from the Astros to the Rockies for Jason Jennings a few years ago.
3…Igawa, Towers, Nova…then pray for rain.
maybe the PTBNL is Mirte
“Brandon,
So youre saying we picked him up just to play for our Triple AAA team?”
Yes.
maybe the PTBNL is Mirte
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Mitre is more valuable than Hirsh. Not likely.
“maybe the PTBNL is Mirte”
nope.
BREAKING NEWS:
“Ricciardi tells MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian that he probably won’t deal Halladay to the Phillies now that they have Cliff Lee.”
Hirsch has had arm troubles & was off the Rocks 40 man roster
I’m saying that at the end of the season, when the PTBNL is named, it will be Jason Hirsch.
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Probably Kei Igawa as PTBNL…Scranton is too shorthanded to allow us to deliver Igawa now.
Major prospects aren’t getting traded. If Toronto wants to deeal Halladay, they’re gonna have to take what they can get, and it’s not gonna be Hughes, Joba or Montero.
17 hits in 10 innings against Balt & the A’s I would keep Mirte also…NOT!!!!!
3…Igawa, Towers, Nova…then pray for rain.
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Oh you’re right…I forgot about Nova. Is it possible that acquiring Hirsch frees up Nova for a trade?
BREAKING NEWS:
“Ricciardi tells MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian that he probably won’t deal Halladay to the Phillies now that they have Cliff Lee.”
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no kidding
Brandon,
AND you’re saying that the PTBNL is Jason Hirsch???
Nova for Duke, str8 up
“Oh you’re right…I forgot about Nova. Is it possible that acquiring Hirsch frees up Nova for a trade?”
doubt it, unless they are landing Duke or Washy.
Bobcat-
Is the Hirsch trade what you where talking about?
AND you’re saying that the PTBNL is Jason Hirsch???
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*I’m* saying that. Because it has happened before and it would be funny and Hirsch sucks. We aren’t trading anything good for him at any rate
“Brandon,
AND you’re saying that the PTBNL is Jason Hirsch???”
huh?
Maybe blockbuster deal for Ryan Doumit + Zach Duke? The Yankees have plenty of pitching prospects to satisfy the Pirates lack of arms in the high minors – guys even better than Ohlendorf and Karstens.
“Oh you’re right…I forgot about Nova. Is it possible that acquiring Hirsch frees up Nova for a trade?”
doubt it, unless they are landing Duke or Washy.
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Maybe but I was thinking they could use him as a part of a package…maybe Nova and 2 or 3 other prospects go for a bigger fish than Duke or Washburn.
Nevermind Brandon, I got mixed up.
“UPDATE, 5:38 p.m.: Don’t expect to see Damaso Marte any time soon, if at all. He was topping out at 88 last night and gave up two jacks.
With Chicago starting three LHPs in the next series, Joe Girardi hinted they could want a right-handed bat for the roster. Shelley Duncan?”
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
July 29th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
longtime:
I am impressed! Not one of my favorites, though. I prefer Adam Lay Ibounden, Gaudete and Salva Nos
Erthe upon Erthe is great ( i think i spelled it right)I have a wide varity of taste when it comes to music, i feel there’s a time and place to enjoy all kinds
Duncan? Screw that, I want Jackson.
The Yanks need another CF.
Can you imagine the corner OF defense if Duncan is added to the roster? Swisher, Damon, Duncan, Hinske. And that’s going from best defense to worst!
I see no reason why the Yanks would want to call up a corner OF. Our CF is injured, not a corner OF.
Zack Duke…no thanks they can keep him,don’t waste time on losers
longtime: That’s another good one, but I don’t have that one, for whatever reason.
You know what is ridiculous about those whole Halladay thing? How JP keeps saying he needs to be “blown away” by a Halladay trade. This is really saying that Halladay isn’t so much on the market, as it is saying that he can be convinced to trade Halladay, but barely.
How could Halladay’s value to another team be greater than right now? It can’t be. This is Halladay’s most valuable point in his career, a mid season difference maker with a year left on his contract. Teams want to make a trade, but the asking price is way too high. But Halladay’s value is going to decrease in the winter. JP is going to find himself settling just like the Mets had to with Santana.
They are not looking for a “fair trade,” they’re looking to take a whole team’s farm system for the best pitcher in baseball. in today’s baseball world that is not realistic – especially when teams are trying to keep their ROI cheap.
I doubt Halladay will be traded and I think the Jays will regret it, or maybe I’m just biased.
GO CASHMAN!!!
WE GOT HIRSCH!!!
TAKE THAT THEO!!!!
against gavin floyd and josh danks
Slam Duncan is 2-2 with 2hrs and 3rbis with 1 BB
Patrick,
Because Damon needs rest more than Cabrera. And because Swish sucks as an outfielder.
I’m begging you people, stop over-evaluating Jason Hirsh. They badly needed a starter at AAA to keep them from using the bullpen once a week. That’s it. It’s not a precursor to anything.
If Red sox dont make a move for Roy- no harm. but if they Yanks need to make the move
Halladay just gave up a HR to Jose Lopez. Trade value plummeting.
they need another CF! melky backs up either corner OF but right now, swisher is our b/u CF. and nobody wants to see that…
Halladay’s price has been dropping all day.
the Yankees need a OFer along with a SP, the way this team OF is now and even with Gardner back will cost them big time in a big game…Halladay and Rios
“Bobcat-
Is the Hirsch trade what you where talking about?”
The first of several moves. The dominoes are falling. Front offices are stepping up. And judgement Day is at hand. Now is the time to believe only half of what you read, and divide what you hear and see by an additonal half. Nothing is what it seems. But very shortly all will be revealed.
“Because Damon needs rest more than Cabrera. And because Swish sucks as an outfielder.”
Damon plays more often than Cabrera should. Swisher is a better OF than Duncan.
Even if Damon needs a rest more what would you rather have happen. Here are your options:
Bench Damon, play Duncan in LF.
Bench Damon, play Swisher in LF, Hinske in RF.
Bench Damon, play Swisher in LF, Duncan in RF.
In all of those scenarios you have CRAP defense in the corners.
How about call up Jackson and when you need to bench Damon, Jackson plays LF. And when Melky needs a day (he is not a fulltime player and we all know it) Jackson can play CF.
Jackson is clearly, without a doubt, the best choice to call up.
Let me get this straight.
If Joba pitches a gem tonight, he’s untouchable.
If he bombs, he’s not worth anything on the trade market.
Sound fair?
no way jerkface
we need jose lopez!!!
they need to bring up a CF. presently the outfield is slow and unathletic, they miss GGBG…………
Bring up Ajax for 4 games how will that retard his long term development? It won’t….
I really think we might be able to pry Javier Vasquez from the Braves. It was rumored he was available about two weeks ago and the Braves have more arms than they know what to do with. Z-Mac plus a bat and a reliever gets it done.
call jp-
here is the deal: hughes and swisher for doc and rios
u guys do it?
didnt jason hirsh win an oscar?
You know, reading this thread, you’d never know the Yanks had the best record in the AL…
So now a reliever can’t pitch if he’s only throwing 88mph, pete?? come on now you know better
Hirsh was Houston’s 2nd round pick in the 2003 draft, but, hasn’t don’t anything above sea level. He was part of a deal that sent Jason Jennings to Houston for Willie Taveras and Taylor Buchholz in ‘06.
call jp-
here is the deal: hughes and swisher for doc and rios
u guys do it?
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No, it would also never happen
almost there
July 29th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
didnt jason hirsh win an oscar?
Ordinary People
He was also good in “Into the Wild” but he looked much younger – odd
also, the yankees are playing great baseball, and there is great chemistry on this team, bringing ajax up, even to spend a week mostly on the bench, would be a great thing for him. so he can go back to scranton and make his push to get back to broadway.
i dont understand the reluctance…
where have you been bobcat?
or should i call you cashmoney
here is the deal: hughes and swisher for doc and rios
u guys do it?
Well lets see: Doc is better than Hughes, and Rios is better than Swisher….not even close….
Bow down to my 13th consecutive Top Ten Showing in the Princeton Review Top Party Schools!!!
almost there
July 29th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
didnt jason hirsh win an oscar?
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Jason Hirsch, 3 tool player, great motor, bench presses 250, 34″ vertical jump, 4.55 40, 18th best at his position in the draft, projected 2-3 rounder.
Oops, wrong sport, never mind…
Wish you a speedy recovery CMW! Torn rotator cuff, damn…
Ha, nobody claimed Tomko. I said that would happen. Now he’s out of a job. If he hadn’t run his mouth about the team not giving him much a shot and accepted a minor league assignment, he’d be taking that turn in Scranton’s rotation, ready to be called up when/if the Yankees need more help in the majors. Turns out nobody wants to give him a shot. Guy has got to realize his career is fading out.
# Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus July 29th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
You know, reading this thread, you’d never know the Yanks had the best record in the AL…
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I think it’s more about getting this team to win in the playoffs, and players mention will make both jobs easier…the goal the WS
Rebecca:
Comes along with the territory.
I will be the jinx Ryan Rowland Smith no hitter through 6 for the Mariners, has not walked anyone, but hit Kevin Millar.
“almost there
July 29th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
didnt jason hirsh win an oscar?”
yeah and he was on taxi with that wierd busboy
“here is the deal: hughes and swisher for doc and rios
u guys do it?”
Nope
I really don’t think the Jays ever really considered trading him. What they are asking for is a joke. 2 top pitchers and 1 or 2 top positon players. In this day and age teams will not get rid of their top 5 prospects for one player. If they got Hughes or Joba you would think they would be happy but they can’t really think they would get both. JP isn’t thinking in the real world…
The likelihood of the Yankees getting Halladay is about as much as the chances of Nick Swisher winning a Gold Glove Award for outstanding play in right field. The Jays are probably asking the moon, sun, and stars from both the Yankees and Sox hoping one of them will blink. Ricciardi isn’t exactly the brightest bulb in the box and with the ownership issues they will most likely do nothing rather than make a deal for less than perceived value. At the end of the day they can keep Doc and get two compensation picks for him at the end of 2010 or trade him at the deadline next year when it’s easier to justify a lesser package than now to the fans.
It would seem that bringing up A-Jax and working him in a bit until Gardner comes back, might be worthwhile. He would provide all of those things that Girardi noted they are missing without Gardner. It’s probably too soon for A-Jax, but it could be a good time to get him a taste. I mean, Gardner is only out for a month right? I say bring up Jackson, put him in the same role as Gardner and see what happens. His defense and pinch running skills would be appreciated for a month fill-in.
That said, I see the merit in Shelley Duncan as well. I just cringe at watching that outfield for a month. And that still leaves us without that pesky speed guy.
ok. You’re not going to believe this,
Steve Phillips via SC at 6:02, is mentioning Philadelphia didn’t have to surrender any of the top 4 propsects Toronto demanded, in the Cliff Lee deal. He is now advocating Philadelpia to make a second trade for Roy Halladay.
no joke.
what’s the chance that Joba throws another beauty tonight? In my mind, that would be the most significant event of the season and could cause the Yankees to just stand pat except for maybe a bullpen addition.
i always wondered what Mel Kiper Jr did post NFL draft….now we know.
just what Phil needs C Lee and Doc.
vinny b: Why not?
They still have the prospects to get it done.
just what Phil needs C Lee and Doc.
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And Pedro too!
Who will get removed from the 40 man roster when the Yanks call up an OF?
Christian Garcia, Kevin Cash, Wang?
Vinny – in a sick, twisted way that actually makes sense.
Nady?
jason hirsh = yankees savior
Since the Phillies already won the WS, and are clearly the second best team in the NL, I would definitely go for broke if I were Amaro.
Plus thats like a fantasy land type maneuver. Trade for Cliff Lee then turn around and get Roy Halladay.
Give up Happ, Drabek, whoever for Doc.
Try and win the WS this year and then next year. You’d be a legendary GM
That got Lee done cause they like the prospects they kept. Steve Phillips has soup for brains and thinks prospects are all for trading.
MG July 29th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
what’s the chance that Joba throws another beauty tonight? In my mind, that would be the most significant event of the season and could cause the Yankees to just stand pat except for maybe a bullpen addition.
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even though he’s been pitching a lot better my gut says he struggles tonight, the top two guys in the order will be the key…keep them off the base
ryan rowland smith no hitter broken up
Hello all from the Trop Phil Hughes and Brian Bruney nearly collided in center field trying to catch a ball. That is just what Bruney wanted.
The Yanks should bring up Austin Jackson. How can support an outfield of Duncan and Swisher/Hinske in the corner OF spots?
“vinny b: Why not?
They still have the prospects to get it done”
1) The current team they have (with Lee) is the favorite to win the NL
2) completely empty out your farm system, for 2 pitchers. One of which is 32 and will be walking away in 1 1/2 years.
i’ll pass.
Something tells me Joba is due for a bad outing
4:39pm: Bill Shaikin and Mike DiGiovanna of the LA Times report that the Dodgers have discussed softening their stance on Chad Billingsley and would consider making him available in a trade, but they’re still not expected to do so
per Halladay
Yankees prospect on Yanks pregame now.
If you make up trade “news” you will be banned. Feel free to share what you hear but only with attribution.
I have zero tolerance for idiocy at this point.
Bobcat July 29th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
“Bobcat-
Is the Hirsch trade what you where talking about?”
The first of several moves. The dominoes are falling. Front offices are stepping up. And judgement Day is at hand. Now is the time to believe only half of what you read, and divide what you hear and see by an additonal half. Nothing is what it seems. But very shortly all will be revealed.
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And, Bobcat has returned to us after his long long acid trip
Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream. Living is easy with eyes closed. Misunderstanding all you see. Look into a glass onion and trade Roy Hallady for a crab-a-locker fishwife, or as we call him Kei Igawa.
Pete, I wasn’t making it up. I just wrote what I saw on tv. I’m sorry then.
Brett Tomko was released. My day is that much better.
But of course, we could not unload a useless bum for Chris Duncan or Brian Anderson.
My day is back to bad again
Bobcat-
Are you blogging from a darken parking garage, while smoking a cigarette?
Only in NJ, folks, only in NJ
http://www.nba.com/nets/video/.....index.html
for those wanting to trade Montero, i hope you heard Patrick Teale (Pinstripe Plus) on the YES pre-game discussing the player which is Jesus Montero
So what’s the deal with Marte? Don’t the Yankees have to bring him up within a certain timeframe after he starts rehabbing?
Somebody?
SoCalYankeeFan
ditto. tomko could have started in aaa, then who knows… teaches you to run your mouth after posting 5+ era in 20+ inn.
trading billingsley for halladay does the dodgers little good. who is there 3rd starter or 4th starter? yes halladay is better then billingsley he also is 8 yrs older, more expensive and only 1 pitcher…
that is why trading halladay for present rotation starters for the yanks or dodgers makes no sense.. if they had addtl. prospects who could step in now that is another story… if wang was not hurt , yes but he is hurt…………
*not* to run your mouth
what did patrick teale say?? from what I read montero is a once in a 40 year prospect, is that about right?
don’t know if I can take a Marte & Mirte
Halladay pitching a gem against the Mariners, an 11 hit 6 inning effort, now losing 3-2.
Just say no to those scalpers who want Joba, Hughes, Montero.
I cant believe Tomko talked smack. Again, another loser who leaves our team and insults us.
But the Red Sox dump just about anybody and they all leave with their tails between their legs and singing the Red Sox praises.
Mark Kotsay and Julio Lugo, why dont you talk about how the Sox are the greatest organization in the history of baseball, and that’s why they’re winners year in and year out, and by that, I mean 2 times in 90 years.
ask seattle what they want for washburn AND ichiro.
he can play cf, and the other fixes the 5th pitcher.
seattle isnt exactly the master of trades. cash can run circles around them.
“that is why trading halladay for present rotation starters for the yanks or dodgers makes no sense.. if they had addtl. prospects who could step in now that is another story… if wang was not hurt , yes but he is hurt…………”
wow Stuart, what did wang do that make you hate him so much?
we should wait until august to find a waiver wire 4/5 starter
i dont believe the hype in washburn… he benefits from a large park, and great of defense… he’s just finally realizing all this
yankees do not need halladay. 2nd best record in baseball and boston is running scared, trade after trade. why mess around?
last year they were three back of tampa when they got pudge, and it went downhill from there.
“that is why trading halladay for present rotation starters for the yanks or dodgers makes no sense”
from the Yankees prespective, i don’t subscribe to this.
now that Joba is coming off 2 good starts in a row, suddenly he’s reliable. Interesting. Then factor in his innings limit, and injury history.
in other words, Joba and Roy Halladay are not interchangeable. One’s performance and turn in the rotation is an automatic. The other is not
that said, hopefully Halladay stays in Toronto. I prefer to keep our players.
anyone ever see Montero catch, just wondering from what I read he has very slow foot work
bobcat-
release the air through the buttocks
The Philly deal is not official yet. If Knapp doesn’t pass his physical, sore shoulder and all, Phillies will quickly have to come up with another prospect.
wang did nothing wrong i like him i just stated he is hurt. of course he did not get hurt on purpose but he is hurt.
what i meant is the yanks after Mitre are real thin in the rotation because of the wang injury, hughes and aceves in the pen and jobas inning limits so getting halladay helps but does not help enough especially if they have an injury..
they need washburn and some depth just in case….
i say just bring igawa up and see how that works, worst case he becomes a second left in the pen, since marte looks to be useless.
tex’s friend July 29th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
ask seattle what they want for washburn AND ichiro.
he can play cf, and the other fixes the 5th pitcher.
seattle isnt exactly the master of trades. cash can run circles around them.
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Kei Igawa and Kei Igawa’s sunglasses will get it done
Does a player like Igawa still get all that money, I think 40mil? even if the yankees NEVER call him up again? Or is there like a condition where he actually has to play wit them to get the money?
seattle is in denial, not only will they probably not trade washburn but they are adding vets!!!!!
they are not better then the angels, what is there GM smoking?
thses in between teams like seattle should sell but they hope to get into the playoffs
i actually feel this is a lost opportunity for ian kennedy. we have the open 5 spot and he had a chance to prove himself again but he has the aneurysm. i really want hughes, kennedy and joba to be out future big three. with cc and aj, that would be saweeeeeeeet.
Awais July 29th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Does a player like Igawa still get all that money, I think 40mil? even if the yankees NEVER call him up again? Or is there like a condition where he actually has to play wit them to get the money?
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get all of the Cash..get it
igawa gets paid every last penny…
“what did patrick teale say?? from what I read montero is a once in a 40 year prospect, is that about right?”
he said, Montero has power to all fields. Not just power, but “light tower power”. He went on to describe at least 5 seprate homeruns in terms of distance, some of which were hit in extreme pitcher’s parks. He basically described a 19 year old Roy Hobbs.
when asked about Roy Halladay, Patrick described the presence of Montero in the trade as “a steep price”. He said he would actually be more inclined to include Joba or Hughes in the trade, instead of Montero.
“Rumor has it George Steinbrenner is at Tropicana Field for tonight’s Yankees-Rays game.11 minutes ago from web”
Washburn is a flyball pitcher. I’m not too excited about getting him for 2 months, and a Boras client. Could he be on the juice in his FA year to sign his last mega deal?
We do however, IMO, need a starter, especially with Aceves having shoulder discomfort, and another reliable reliever, because I don’t want to count on Marte, coming back to form.
how about trading igawa and some B list prospect for Peavy!
Man $40m goes a long way in Scranton….
Zach Duke would be a good pickup for the Yankees IMO. A young 26 yr (April) lefthanded pitcher in Yankee Stadium is a nice touch. I hope the Yanks get him & I prefer him over Washburn as well.
if kennedy pitches well next year he will get his chance.
it might not be with us but his time will come if he pitches well.
Joe Monte,
I think Wang was on the 15-day DL??? I would imagine they could now move him to the 60-day DL, which means he no longer counts against the 40-man (15-day does).
I believe that is all accurate. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
L to the 2nd
LOL
Do you think he treats some of the players to dinner since he is an enormous waste.
he only gets 5 years 20 million by the way
RayVT July 29th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Zach Duke would be a good pickup for the Yankees IMO. A young 26 yr (April) lefthanded pitcher in Yankee Stadium is a nice touch. I hope the Yanks get him & I prefer him over Washburn as well.
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Zack Duke has given uo 862 hits in 731 innings with a 4.2 era in the NL…NO THANKS
what yankee prospect was taking BP/pregame?
RT: @Dejan_Kovacevic: Sanchez traded to Giants for Tim Alderson, Class AA pitcher
joeman
July 29th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
He must not be too bad, he made the NL All-Star team this year and he is only 26 yrs old.
joeman
July 29th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
He must not be too bad, he made the NL All-Star team this year and he is only 26 yrs old.
GB7
I received my Roy White book today. Usually not a reader of books but have already read about 50 pages. He was really high on Johnny Sain
RayVT July 29th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
joeman
July 29th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
He must not be too bad, he made the NL All-Star team this year and he is only 26 yrs old.
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Being and All-Star from the Pirates not that big of an accomplishment they had to pick someone.
“RT: @Dejan_Kovacevic: Sanchez traded to Giants for Tim Alderson, Class AA pitcher”
Brian Sabean has once again reverted to clueless. Wow. What an awful trade.
Alderson is better than any prospect that the Indians got back for Lee.
That is just remarkable. What a terrible trade.
Anderson is one of the better pitching prospects in all of baseball and has torn through the minor leagues.
SJ – Tony’s finally got a real arm to catch.
What a steal for the Pirates.
Zach Duke anybody ? The Pirates will listen.
didn’t know the Geico caveman is a Rays fan. In the stands at the game
anyone know a popular red sox blogs other that ESPN.com
or maybe trade for Duchscherer. Both peavy and Duchscherer are worth the risk and their price probaby on the low side due to injury.
anyone know the longest streak a pitcher has without giving up a run? (how many innings?)
Great deal for the Pirates. You make that deal if you are the Pirates and not think twice.
Rudy Owens and Tim Alderson, a nice LH/RH combo for the future.
Mark-Can’t touch this-
Son of Sam Horn..
-dennis
Can’t wait until the Pirates trade us Alderson in 2013.
SJ,
I literally can’t believe Huntington pulled that off. That is just unbelievable.
What is Sabean thinking?
Score one for Pirate fans. This trade is going to get Huntington a ton of good will and confidence from that fan base.
All the players the Bucs traded over the past year – Alderson is by far the best.
He got a better return for Sanchez than he did for McClouth.
Awais
July 29th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
anyone know the longest streak a pitcher has without giving up a run? (how many innings?)
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Orel Hershiser, 59 innings, 1988.
I met Roy White back in the very early 70’s at Hialeah Park and he was a really nice guy, saw him two days later at the Bannana Boat and he remembered me which at a young age made me feel good..
Tweet of the night:
mikeaxisa Hey Sabes, it’s Cash. Any interest in Melky for Bumgarner? plskthx
CBS Sports’ Danny Knobler says the Yankees have steered their focus toward middle relief help, but too many of their desired names reside in the AL East.
- mlbtraderumors.com
Ugh – so we’re going to war (very likely) with this staff? with no depth at all in the minors? Sorry, I hope this is not the case because that would be ridiculous.
Mark:
google: sons of sam horn (redsox forum)
andy laroche is pretty good, too!
Awais
In 1988, Dodgers pitcher Orel Hershiser pitched 59 2/3 innings without giving up a run. That is the equivalent of throwing (almost) seven Complete Game Shutouts in a row.
Read more: http://baseball.suite101.com/a.....z0MgzZHBHn
thanks for answering my questions!!
enjoy the game
“Orel Hershiser, 59 innings, 1988″
epic
Lets go Yankees!
Only in Red Sox nation could someone like Sam Horn be a hero
SJ44 July 29th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Great deal for the Pirates. You make that deal if you are the Pirates and not think twice.
Rudy Owens and Tim Alderson, a nice LH/RH combo for the future.
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the question is which team’s future? might as well make them the first universal MLB AAA affiliate.
Zach Duke anybody ? The Pirates will listen.
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You bet with Sanchez now traded…im pretty sure they would listen….He would be a nice addition….i know he would have a 4 era in the AL but we would not have to sacrifice the players we would have to give the jays for Doc…He would be a nice innings eater
LOL Mad Dog is probably foaming at the mouth at giving up Alderson. I’m not familiar with him, but if he’s that good……
I’m kind of rooting for the Bucs to make it. I used to root for them against the Braves in the 90’s and I remember (if only very, very, very vaguely) the 1979 “We are Family” team (mostly I remember them because I remember the music, lol). They’ve been so bad, for so long…….and it’s a team with a fantastic history.
wooo go Jete! I like lead-off triples!
Game’s over and Yanks lose. Jeter only has a triple.
That’s how you do it Jete
Is that Nick Swisher playing RF for Tampa?
Seems like the Yankees have been hitting a lot more triples lately.
George Steinbrenner meeting with yanks = Jeter lead off triple.
Mad Dog is probably foaming at the mouth with that trade, lol. If Alderson is that promising………wow.
I’m rooting for the Bucs to turn it around. I used to root for them in the 90’s against the Braves and I remember (very vaguely as I was only 8 years old) the “We are Family” team….Actually, I remember theme only because of the music, but still …….This is a team with a tremendous history and they’ve been bad for so long.
I just returned from a 15 day trip to europe and i noticed two things.
1. I didnt see one single article of boston red sox paraphernalia.
2. Everyone and their mother had some sort of Yankees gear. I love it. It just proves that the yankees fan base is far larger than the that of the red sux.
Mad Dog is probably foaming at the mouth with that trade, lol. If Alderson is that promising………wow.
wow i didnt even realize at first he caught that…i thought he was just stupid
I’m rooting for the Pirates to turn it around. I used to root for them in the 90’s against the Braves and I remember (very vaguely as I was only 8 years old) the “We are Family” team….Actually, I remember theme only because of the music, but still …….This is a team with a tremendous history and they’ve been bad for so long.
good job tex!!!
Nice Tex
Sometimes the ball has eyes
There is your run Joba!
Ok, I have no idea why my post continues to get blocked. Suffice to say, I’m rooting for the Pirates to turn it around. I used to root for them in the 90’s against the Braves ..and I vaguely remember (as an 8 year old) the 1979 team (mostly I remember them because of the music, lol).
Ok, I have no idea why my post continues to get blocked. Suffice to say, I’m rooting for the Pirates to turn it around. I used to root for them in the 90’s against the Braves
A-Rod is in a bad slump
I also remember the 1979 team, if only vaguely (I was just 8 years old) because of the “We are Family” thing….
Good job Oakland. Already 1-0.
Just got in from a day at the Cape. So disappointed to learn Cliff Lee went to Philly. Somewhere here last night assured us he was going to the Sux!
So the moral of that story for all you worriers is this: today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday (and unnecessarily I might add, and as usual, I might add!)
Anyway, go Yankees!!!
Go A’s!!!
Anthony Murillo July 29th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
A-Rod is in a bad slump
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pretty sure he was the only one with a few hits last night
ehh…arod will make up for it later
meanwhile in boston it is 1-0 Oak and they have bases loaded 0 outs against penny
Yeah, he just took 2 balls right down the middle. Then he swings at the bad pitch.
“Just got in from a day at the Cape.”
Where did you go?
Holy crapoly. Turn on NESN. The bad Penny had the bases loaded with nobody out! Now 2-0, one out.
Anthony Murillo July 29th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
A-Rod is in a bad slump
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I said that three days ago and peeps jumped down my throat
michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland
The Yankees are a worldwide brand. The Red Sox are a regional brand, which has been bloated by New England based
ESPN. The Red Sox identity is essentially as a foil for the Yankees. To put it another way, the Yankees could easily exist without the Red Sox. The Red Sox are nothing without the Yankees; and they know it. as does every single bitter little Sox fan
“A-Rod is in a bad slump”
He was 2-4 last night
Will someone explain this Joba rule max inning thing to me?
Dose it mean it thorws x number of innings he is done for the rest of the year?
nice play jeter…
Jeter could have did that yesterday
joba is working very fast
go up to the Cape for two weeks every August, when the weather is nice there’s no better place ( Cape Cod League is fun to watch)when it rains it S?cks
big dog July 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Will someone explain this Joba rule max inning thing to me?
Dose it mean it thorws x number of innings he is done for the rest of the year?
He will move to the bull pen when he reaches
this tempo is electric i cant keep up lol
i’m just waiting for the day he strikes someone out and rips off his jersey like hulk hogan…
Same with Alex
are Jeter and Alex back to normal tonight?
why is so sepicial? I know hes talented but thats ridiciouls
GJ Joba
JOBA IS A STARTING PITCHA!!!
easssyyy inning
Joba has that look in his eye tonight.
Hahahhahahahahah – Brad Penny loads the bases AGAIN – hahahhahaahhahah
pat July 29th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
“A-Rod is in a bad slump”
He was 2-4 last night
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I believe one of those hits was with two outs and nobody on base….
Chieng-Ming Wang….uh…I mean Joba Chamberlain with three ground ball outs!
Uncle, on my God. We went to Mashpee to New Seaburyport, something like that, and had lunch and then headed to Chatham. We had a wonderfully relaxing day.
This is OT, but check out the lunch we ended up having (the reason we went – someone had recommended this place. Unbelievable. Scroll down and look at the lobster roll. No exaggeration on the size of it.)
http://popponessetmarketplace......eries.html
A Rod LOL
MLB thoughts…Why doesn’t MLB just dissolve the Pirates franchise????? JP is trying to unload Lyle Overpay, hope he gets stuck with him..
joeman
July 29th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
pat July 29th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
“A-Rod is in a bad slump”
He was 2-4 last night
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I believe one of those hits was with two outs and nobody on base….
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For the love of god, does alex have to get a hit with risp every time he has a Ab. The scrutiny on Alex’s ab’s are absurd. Leave the guy alone already.
IIRCtThere were games this season where Joba was throwing less than 60% fastballs.
That was one of the central issues with him during that bad stretch. He just fell in love with his breaking stuff.
That was the crux of the problems he was having with Posada.
Last game Joba threw around 70% fastballs.
That first inning Joba threw 10 pitches. 9 were fastballs.
Trisha -
One of those lobster rolls would feed my family!!!!
Sounds like you had a nice day.
Trisha to quote Rachel Ray Yummo!
Oak 5 BOS 0 hahaahah
5-0 A’s BAD PENNY!!
“The Yankees are a worldwide brand. The Red Sox are a regional brand, which has been bloated by New England based
ESPN. The Red Sox identity is essentially as a foil for the Yankees. To put it another way, the Yankees could easily exist without the Red Sox. The Red Sox are nothing without the Yankees; and they know it. as does every single bitter little Sox fan”
Yavold.
Joeman, where on the Cape does the CCL play? I’d like to go and catch a game.
Big Stein is in the house.
He looks great
Plus A’s just hit one off the GREEN MONSTER — CLEARS THE BASES — THREE RUNS SCORE — 5-ZIP A’S IN BOTTOM OF THE FIRST — PENNY STILL IN TROUBLE.
rajai davis doubles to clear the bases…5-0 A’s
“Holy crapoly. Turn on NESN. The bad Penny had the bases loaded with nobody out”
Dione Farris described this in a song, “…like a penny with a hole”. title: Hopeless
Crap, only 5-0 A’s.
Hey maybe Penny’s depressed because he heard his name bandied about in trade talk and then learned nobody wants him and he will remain stuck in hell!
33 pitches for Penny
Penny is throwing nothing but FBs to a FB hitting team. Doesn’t matter if it’s 97 98 A’s are hitting it.
34 pitches for Penny
pat July 29th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
“A-Rod is in a bad slump”
He was 2-4 last night
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since 7/12 he has 7 RBI’s – 2 HRS 10 hits in 50 AB’s & 14 K’s…I say he’s in a slump
35 and counting
Rays are the best I seen the Yanks play this year
way to go oakland
I’m really happy that George could make it to the game – I’d love the Yankees to win anyway, but especially for George. Remember in years past, a feisty George would berate his team for losing to the Rays…….
um, 37
Garza looks NASTY. We’re lucky we got that run early. Now Joba’s gotta make it stick.
Thanks for Sox updates, There is still 8.5 innings left though, right?
“Dione Farris described this in a song, “…like a penny with a hole”. title: Hopeless”
Hey wait a minute! I thought the Suxers had the best rotation in baseball. Did someone on here lie to me again!?!?!
38 pitches + 5 runs, quite an efficient first inning for Brad
Posada and Robbie swings at balls inside and almost in the dirt……Thank you so far Oakland. Seriously, A Rod is hardly a threat anymore. How to pitch A Rod….fastball 1st strike…then 2nd curve strike…then 3rd pitch doesn’t matter, it will be a K or GIDP. He just seems like he is playing LA or Boston in the playoffs…lost
Penny – 37 pitches in the first.
“There is still 8.5 innings left though, right?”
Uncle, Sux just defaulted under the “we’re all sick to our stomachs, can we just call it a game?” rule. Game over.
TEX———–the man with the golden glove
geez damon wth lol…this isnt funny but im laughing
Damon looked stressed out on that one lol
“we’re all sick to our stomachs, can we just call it a game?” rule. Game over.
Bad Lobster Rolls?
Bourne
Harwich
Brewster
Hyannis
Chatham
Orleans
Cotuit
Wareham
Falmouth
I think this is all of the towns, Yarmouth might be another, I go to the games in Brewster & Chatham
Johnny Dangerously
Need this win. Boston is already down a 5-spot.
John Sterling, on the way Johnny played that ball: “He looks like he’s drunk”.
I LOL’ed.
Damon looked intoxicated on that one…….
Alex is hardly a threat anymore? I must be in the Twilight Zone……
nice 3-1 joba
joba is zoning…
Joba’s looking good
nice 3-0 comeback…21 pitches!
21 pitches through 2 for Joba?
Pat Burrel was so late on that fastball, the Yankees were already off the field when he swung….
This is ridiculous – we need to get a player or two who can play the OF. It really isn’t that hard of a job………
My theory is that Yesterday the boys were under the weather due to a “late night” with Alexander’s Rag Time Birthday Band – just a theory
Wow. Pat the Bat’s been flat. What a signing.
Nice job so far by the Jobber
this will be somewhat premature but if joba continues like this, he is our #3 postseason starter. if that’s the case, we need to start managing his innings the rest of the year if that’s the case. may have to skip a start here and there.
this working fast thing is paying off
Doreen and Uncle. They were unbelievable. Doreen, we took the waitress’s advice and only ordered 2 (for 3 of us) and ended up leaving about half of one. Forget the size of them, they were exquisite. I don’t know if I’ve tasted fresher lobster meat!
It really was a wonderful day. One of those days where you just say “what should we do next” and then go with it. Our only planned event was having lunch at that Raw Bar.
nice hit swish
It really was a wonderful day. One of those days where you just say “what should we do next” and then go with it. Our only planned event was having lunch at that Raw Bar.
Very Buellerian of you.
“Pat Burrel was so late on that fastball, the Yankees were already off the field when he swung….”
Joba’s fastball has been overpowering this game – and he’s only sitting 92-94.
Burrell is a very good fastball hitter. That pitch that he couldn’t catch up to was 94.
These past 3 games Joba has started doing the same thing Hughes started doing this season – locating his fastball.
And when Joba locates his fastball he overpowers hitters without needing to throw 98.
At his best not only is he striking guys out, but he’s a huge ground ball pitcher as hitters don’t get lift off his fastball.
great bunt jete!
I tend to do best in the Buellerian mode!
jeter continues to amaze me…
come on johnny do some damage damon!
Wow, GREAT bunt by Jeter.
nice bunt jetes.
Did the Giants really trade away Tim Alderson ??? I understand they wanted Sanchez, but man Alderson is a few years away from being an impact pitcher….Wow ????
johnny hit it hard…cant ask for more…pick him up tex!
come on tex…he’s the 2009 AL MVP…
“Life moves pretty fast. You don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.”
Shocking, 2 on, 1 out, 0 runs….
Back to work Jobber
how often does a 2nd basemen catch a ball out there?…tex just missed that one
Trisha -
Those are special kinds of days. We all need those every once in a while.
Brett Anderson sucks
5-3 in the Sox game.
I have a proposition for those who tend to be more negative than positive during games (you know who you are, I seriously don’t. Well not each person by screenname!)
Anyway, if you want to sign up for this, we’ll do it. If each of you who want to go for it can go through an entire game on the forum without making one negative or critical or worried comment – in other words, if you can go through the entire game making comments here but not once fall into a negative mode, I will send you a pound of the freshest salt water taffy you’ve ever eaten. But you have to hang here for the whole game and chat with us throughout.
Just a thought.
Pat M,
I was shocked they moved Alderson for Sanchez. What are they thinking? It’s mind boggling. It’s as if they’re saying we have so much young pitching we can make Alderson expendable.
I’d understand it if they packaged him for an impact power bat – but Sanchez? What is Sabean doing?
Bueller
good thing the Sox bullpen is well rested after the 11 inning game last night which saw them use their entire arsenal…
Penny isn’t gonna give them more then 5 innings if he’s lucky
i want taffy!
The Boss is looking for trade chips
Michael Kay sounds like the most UNFUN person in the world. Who does not like sloppy joes??????
Doreen, you absolutely do. But then it is always so nice coming home to your tried and true. This has the makings of the perfect day and night. (Even though the Sux scored three runs back. Thankfully the A’s were smart enough to grab 5 first!)
It’s funny now to think back to the winter when Peter Gammons was saying that Brad Penny would be the Sox version of the yanks signing AJ Burnett – of course only as a much more rational, “low risk” move.
And the rest of the ESPN crew actually thought that assertion was plausible.
i’m not usually negative, but i can refrain from being sometimes negative, for some TAFFY. cant get the good stuff out here on the west coast.
Looks like Joba doesn’t want to be traded..
Tex baby
wow tex!
When joba establishes his fastball and pitches off of it that curve ball is deadly.
Joba just shakes off Posada on a two strike count – Posada called a breaking ball and Joba wanted to go fastball.
This is terrific stuff to watch. What a difference.
His pace is so fast right now. He’s just catching and throwing.
I am majorly crushin on Tex right now
good catch tex!!!!!
Tex
TEX=====the man with the golden glove
MARK TEIXEIRA IS AN ANIMAL.
who’s better, tex or mother thereaa?
Trisha is really Abby Froeman the Taffy Queen of Providence.
I just realized i forgot to start Joba on my fantasy team.
I’ll stay positive, but….
If Tex doesn’t win the gold glove, it would be criminal
tex = 2009 AL mvp
dave and michelle -
I am laughing so hard I am almost crying! Two positive people are the first to sign up for it!
Okay, I can’t think of anything that would make me happier than to share taffy with positive pals.
yankeetrisha@cox.net If you have a favorite kind, let me know. Otherwise it will just be a mix. You’ll need to send me your addresses.
CB, I thought Alserson would be the arm they’d slot into Randy Johnson’s spot in the rotation in 2010….
1. Good to see George getting around.
2. JP’s situation is getting tougher. I think his nonsense about keeping Halladay is an example of talking tough for his Toronto fanbase. I can’t imagine any GM buying it.
With Penny getting hammered now, Henry might be getting antsy. However, he’s lost a lot in the market.
Further, JP would want Buchloz and Bard as part of any deal with Boston, which is a big problem for Boston. They have only two starters to depend on for next year, Beckett and Lester. DiceK is a big risk. Penny and Smoltz are not showing much this year, and are one year deals, anyway. They need somebody to start. Trading Bucholz for Doc doesn’t change their need for more starters (they are exchanging one for another), and increases their costs for that starter.
Ditto Bard. I think they look at Bard as Papelbon’s low cost successor when Pap looks for big money. Losing Bard and Bucholz will cost Boston an awful lot of money. Don’t underestimate that. It will hamstring them in a major way.
In short, Cash and the Yankees may offer JP the best deal he is going to get – and it will be at a price Cash is williing to pay.
Or JP can keep Doc, and continue to spend his boss’ money on a losing team in an empty stadium. The choice is his.
Posada with the cannon
jorge!
Great CS.
great tag cano. good throw JoPo.
This is the antithesis of last night. The defense that inning was phenomenal.
Two nice plays in that inning.
Have i mentioned how much I love having Teixeira on this team?????? Did I tell you all I wanted him here 2-plus years ago?????
we should have a drinking game, anytime someone mentions how ESPN has a Red Sox bias…who cares what peter gammons thinks about life?!
I’m so glad the Sox whiffed on signing Tex..
OK, A Rod up…he will look at strike one….then ball, then strike two, then foul then a K or ground out….gees I am good
michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland
July 29th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
i’m not usually negative, but i can refrain from being sometimes negative, for some TAFFY. cant get the good stuff out here on the west coast.
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If you’re looking for the best salt water taffy, these people will ship it.
http://www.riverstreetsweets.c.....-favorites
trisha, what are ppl signing up for? i’m lost…
tex pwns mother teresa..she never did anythign to help us win
Tex w/good D….but a meek pop up last AB,,,,
Breaking news: Joba loses his no hit bid in the 3rd inning, If only robbue cano would have dove for that ball. Jeez i cant believe we havent traded these guys for a bag of balls yet!
Pat M,
That’s part of why I’m so surprised to see them trade Alderson. He’s so polished and yet so young. He’s closer to being major league ready than Bumgarner.
It was easy to think he’d be up in the majors next year at some point during the season.
What a trade for the Bucs. Haven’t been able to say that often over the past decade. But this was a fleecing.
RDM July 29th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
OK, A Rod up…he will look at strike one….then ball, then strike two, then foul then a K or ground out….gees I am good
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amazing how smart pre-schooler’s are these days.
good job little guy. you keep up the good work and you may even get a cabbage patch kid for christmas…
Sui is my boy!
matsui! can we please score atleast 2 this inning
if matsui starts going the other way like that, we’ll be even better. if that’s possible
Time For the DEATH BLOW.
3 runs might be enough w/ the way joba is working tonight. come on guys – we can score 2 w/o a hit.
Check that, Alderson……CB, You’re right about the new post All-Star break Joba, he’s doing exactly what Phil is doing, spotting his heater in east-west / north -south amd it’s been the big difference so far….He’s working his other pitches off the fastball….Also he’s not shaking off Posada, and he’s not wasting time on the hill…..Whatever Cashman does, I hope he can keep Hughes & Chamberlain together because it a few years they will be the top 1-2 in baseball
GB,
thank you for the website! I will certainly look into ordering some of that goodstuff. Now, If only i could find a place that would deliver Yuengling to my door. Ughhh.
djsunyc
July 29th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
RDM July 29th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
OK, A Rod up…he will look at strike one….then ball, then strike two, then foul then a K or ground out….gees I am good
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amazing how smart pre-schooler’s are these days.
good job little guy. you keep up the good work and you may even get a cabbage patch kid for christmas…
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He IS a Cabbage Patch Kid.
Jorge, no. Just…no.
robbie…DON’T FEAR THE RISP!!!
worst possible outcome for posada right there…come on robbie pick him up
“Further, JP would want Buchloz and Bard as part of any deal with Boston, which is a big problem for Boston.”
Not only that, but the Red Sox need to get some bats. Lowell, Varitek, and Ortiz are aging and Drew has never been a reliable hitter. That’s a lot of power that will be missing in a couple years.
They also need to worry about resigning Bay and Beckett, and possibly Papelbon (if Bard gets dealt).
Pathetic Job by Posada!
Let’s put this game away boys!
trivia answer: Aubrey Huff
GB thanks for the tip. I was going to have to hunt for a good place. You can have some too if you want as a gift for the twins. The sugar will help keep you up!
Joekuh – I challenged the negative nellies here to go an entire game without a negative comment and I would send them a pound of salt water taffy! Obviously it means more to them to blitch!!!!!
So I’m happy to share with my positive buds. So there crappy complainers!
that Jorge can’t throw at all and his pitch calling is 3rd rate…
alright robbie picked him up and why am i posting every 3 seconds…it so hot in my house i cant stand it
GreenBeret7 July 29th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
He IS a Cabbage Patch Kid.
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lol…more like garbage pail kid…
Swish going deep
single, double, pop out on 4 pitches… insane.
michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland
July 29th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
GB,
thank you for the website! I will certainly look into ordering some of that goodstuff. Now, If only i could find a place that would deliver Yuengling to my door. Ughhh.
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They have a great catalogue, but, if you like soutern candies, the pralines and both dark and vanilla fudge is the best.
That 9 game interleague series the yanks played was the best thing that happenned to matsui.
His knees really benefited from the rest – especially that back knee. He didn’t look stable on that knee at all in the box before.
His hitting legs look much more stable now. And his swing looks terrific.
robbie doesn’t fear the RISP…
ROBBIE BROUGHT THE COWBELL!!!
Kay is really into that Arod story lol
He keeps saying “Hey buddy how are you doing”
swinging on first pitches this inning…
Michael Kay is making fun, but that must have been the cutest thing to see!
CB July 29th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
That 9 game interleague series the yanks played was the best thing that happenned to matsui.
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unfortunately interleague may also be the reason wang’s career as a top flight pitcher may be over. why meachum sent him home i will never know…
trisha – OPPC lifetime member whose new BFF is Rajai Davis
July 29th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
GB thanks for the tip. I was going to have to hunt for a good place. You can have some too if you want as a gift for the twins. The sugar will help keep you up!
Joekuh – I challenged the negative nellies here to go an entire game without a negative comment and I would send them a pound of salt water taffy! Obviously it means more to them to blitch!!!!!
So I’m happy to share with my positive buds. So there crappy complainers!
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The twins will have to get their own.
Geeze what is up with the weather? I had to turn the TV up the thunder is so loud.
Nick Whiffer……….
I agree Doreen, it is a cute story.
Check out what I found! This is the prediction chart we made at the beginning of the season. If anyone wants to add to it, feel free and I will add your name and prediction.
2009 YANKEE WINS PREDICTION CHART
TOMPASS 124
*S.O.S. 118
ROB THOMPSON 110
#2 FOR PREZ 106
PEL 105
TRISHA 103
VSPOT 103
KEVIN IN CT 102
NICK IN SF 102
YANKEESJTJ 102
GLOBAL WARMING 102
THE PREDIKTER 101
LORI 100
MEL 100
TEX’S NEW BF 100
PATRICK 100
BARDOS 99
VIN 99
JENNIFER 99
ED 99
DT 99
LAURA 98
PETE ABE 98
RISHI 98
RUSSW210 98
CLAYB 98
DOREEN 98
RB15 98
TOM IN NJ 97
FRAN 97
S.A. 97
HOKIEHILL 97
UNCLE ELLSWORTH 97
#2 FOR PREZ 96
GAYLE 96
PAT 96
WESTERNER99 96
PSYLUCK 96
STEVEB 96
MICHAEL KAY 96
JOHN IN OHIO 95
MARK 95
B-DAVE 94
You could see that Swisher K coming from a mile away. Oh well, one run is better than nothing.
Fail….2nd and 3rd…0 outs…1 run. Posada swings at first pitch as does Robbie..this team is bad w/RISP…
Doreen
July 29th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Michael Kay is making fun, but that must have been the cutest thing to see!
Share please.
Anyone notice the sign behind homeplate that says Dandy House. I’ve seen it for the past few days and just now felt like figuring out what it is. I thought i was some sort of school for japanese immersion or learning english. But, guess what, Its not – It’s a an EXCLUSIVE MENS BEAUTY DAY SPA. What the crap is that?
Cape Cod BL is a lotta fun – will be up there first 2 wks in August – a lot of thesee kids become future stars – watched Lincecum play for Harwich in ‘05…
the way this blog reads you would think that they were down 2-0 and Joba was struggling…
crap…. maybe swish shoulda swung on the first pitch…
Time and time again the Yankees do themselves in…should be 4-5 to 0 right now….
hahahahahaha @ the debbie downer challenge. you’re better off sending them a blankie to cry into.
“hatever Cashman does, I hope he can keep Hughes & Chamberlain together because it a few years they will be the top 1-2 in baseball”
Pat M,
They aren’t trading either of them. What Joba’s done in the majors speaks for itself. He’s not a prospect. He’s a young player but he’s a key part of the team now.
And Phil’s performance this season has squarely put him back into the untouchable area. And on top of that he has also made himself indispensable to the team.
Those two arms are baseball gold. It’s what every team is dying to have.
You watch Joba work right now – it’s unfathomable that you’d want to trade a 23 year old pitcher who can do this.
Speaking of Meachum, What a great job Thompson has been doing. I almost don’t miss Bowa.
because meachum was the dumbest choice of a 3rd base coach in the history of baseball. what an idiot.
Does Garza have a tic or does he just like to spit!
Does Cashman make a trade now or wait for a pitcher/pitchers to be placed on waivers in August?
“Fail….2nd and 3rd…0 outs…1 run. Posada swings at first pitch as does Robbie..this team is bad w/RISP…”
robbie got the run in dude…dont matter how he got it done
“The twins will have to get their own.”
Actually I meant it was a gift in celebration of your welcoming twins into your family, and the sugar in it would keep you up in the event you were going to babysit.
from SI via deadspin…Josh Johnson:
From this week’s SI Pop Culture Grid: Person I’m Dying To Interview…”Kirby Puckett. One of my idols growing up.”
RDM
July 29th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Time and time again the Yankees do themselves in…should be 4-5 to 0 right now….
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and how many teams have scored more runs than the Yankees this year, sport?
The key to Joba is rhythm & pacing – don’t think, throw.
Here guys, hit this.
Trusting his stuff.
Time for people here to talk about how good Joba has been this game and economical his pitches are. He is starting to put some good starts together now.. Too bad the Yanks swung so early in the counts.
lol…duck down mrs. tony parker…lol…
GO JOBA!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha @ longoria in the dirt and spiking his bat after popping out.
Haha Longoria really wanted to get a HR there.
“Michael Kay sounds like the most UNFUN person in the world. Who does not like sloppy joes??????”
food snob
they got to get Swish out of the OF
Joba, gees…don’t get yourself into trouble please
MG July 29th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
RDM
July 29th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Time and time again the Yankees do themselves in…should be 4-5 to 0 right now….
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and how many teams have scored more runs than the Yankees this year, sport?
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next improvement to this blog is the ignore feature. then he will be posting with himself all night…
ooo- Longoria was livid he popped out. He wanted to smack that ball to the moon for that head throw.
The old Joba is back. Look out Youk!
Betsy, if you are here, are you feeling just a little better about Joba than you were at the ASB? He’s really turned it around in the last 3 starts, hasn’t he?
Great job so far Jobber 49 pitches
The sun will come out tomorrow
dam chin music…love it..now we need to give arod and jeter some face guards
Kay was telling a story about being in the gym at the hotel and he was working out and Arod was there too on a bike. Lot’s of fans hang around and one father sent his son over to Arod, Arod says hey buddy how are you doing and the little kid doesn’t say anything, Arod says again hey how are you doing, says nothing, he just stares at Alex. Very cute.
trisha,
I thought you already had the taffy… you don’t need to go out and get any for me. I appreciate the thought either way
1-hitter thur four
ok, we’re having this debate at the office this past week so i figure i’ll ask y’all:
who gets into heaven first, mark teixiera or mother theresa?
Sutcliff is an idiot in the booth……Too many dead brain cells washed away with booze……
Damon & Swish in the corners is asking for trouble in BIG Games
If Robinson Cano wasn’t there to catch that ball it wasn’t getting caught.
Man the old Joba is back!
Yanks have to party like it’s 1998…..
Patience, smart at-bats, grinding.
They can’t fall into bad habits (c’mon Jorge, you know better)
The more you watch Joba pitch, the sillier it looks to include him in any package for Halladay.
He’s coming into his own right in front of our eyes.
It’s only 4 innings and according to this post Joba is a HOF and untradeable….LOL….please, let’s keep it realistic
I love having a pitcher with a ‘tude
“because meachum was the dumbest choice of a 3rd base coach in the history of baseball. what an idiot”
you lose the Taffy
trisha – OPPC lifetime member whose new BFF is Rajai Davis
July 29th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
“The twins will have to get their own.”
Actually I meant it was a gift in celebration of your welcoming twins into your family, and the sugar in it would keep you up in the event you were going to babysit.
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LMAO. I’m just upset because they get all the gifts and attention. I figured that they’d get that, too. They act like they did something special. I thank you very much for the offer, Trish. It’s a very generous thing to do.
Say no to Halladay!
Keep Hughes and Joba. I’ll take 2×23-year-olds than a 32-year old thank you very much.
wait…kay was in a gym? that’s sounds like something out of a steven spielberg movie…
Brad Penny can’t find the plate.
Closing in on 70 pitches through 2 1/3
ouch
Speaking of Meachum, What a great job Thompson has been doing. I almost don’t miss Bowa.
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Agree on this, although if Bowa were still with the Yankees Cano would probably be batting .389 right now.
Joba is crazy. He is a young Clemens in terms of the way he goes after hitters. He backed up that pitch to the head by throwing a heater right down the middle and Longo could not get it. Awesome sequence.
Guys, Swish is not going anywhere………..Even when Gardner was healthy, swish played almost everyday……he’s Girardi’s boy, like it or not…We’ll just have to stomach the clown……….
I think Mother Theresa is already there…
Garza…someone for the Yankees is going down
trisha -
email sent.
Sutcliffe is whining and crying over the brushback.
3 outings in a row for joba….
he is not brandon claussen or brad halsey…the guy is 23 and looking like he figured something out in Nebraska….
the posada bad AB last inning hurts…
It’s nice that we all love Jobber again.
RDM, I hear the world is going to end next week, go celebrate now and avoid the rush.
they will go after arod
lol dj
Kay did say thank goodness the kid didn’t come up to him because sweat was flying everywhere.
Uncle E -
ARod (and Michael Kay) were working out at the hotel this morning. Alex was on the recumbent bike. A little boy about 4 years old was with his Dad and saw ARod. The dad sent him in and the boy went over to ARod and just stood there. ARod said, “Hey buddy how’re doin?” And the boy just stood there, staring at him. He said it again, “Hey buddy, how’re doin?”
I guess the boy was just star-struck and more likely very shy. Someone came and got him.
Anyway, Michael Kay thinks this is the funniest thing. And he kept repeating, “Hey buddy, how’re doing.”
Thing is, he didn’t say how cute it was, just how funny.
Anthony Murillo July 29th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I think Mother Theresa is already there…
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i thought she was on the waiting list b/c she once wore a redsox hat…
Kay in a gym…………where’s the peephole video when you need it????? America’s Funniest Home Video would love to get their hands on that!!!
Tex or A-Rod is going to get hit
Joba…pitching better for sure,two things he’s lowering his pitch count & pitching inside
“Sutcliff is an idiot in the booth……Too many dead brain cells washed away with booze……”
I would describe what he does, whenever he is talking of the Redsox. But it is very crude, adult oriented, and x-rated
Doreen/YankeesLuv Thanks for the “Hey Buddy” Story
Joba was quoted as saying that he and Eiland had found a hitch in his delivery and he was able to work it out at home during the ASB. I don’t know what he had to change, but it has certainly worked, he looks like a different pitcher in the 2nd half.
stuart July 29th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
3 outings in a row for joba….
he is not brandon claussen or brad halsey…the guy is 23 and looking like he figured something out in Nebraska….
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he was very frustrating to watch the first half as he constantly kept walking around the mound after every pitch trying to hit the corners and be a finesse pitcher instead of a power one. something did click in nebraska b/c this joba is light years better than the joba from apr-asb. this joba is why you think he can be a #1 pitcher.
carl July 29th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Tex or A-Rod is going to get hit
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it’s going to be someone,this guy has a nasty streak in him
Uh can Sutcliff please be held accountable for what he is suggesting right now.
“He loves it”
When referring to Joba throwing inside on guys.
Kay in a gym – what was on the other end of the treadmill – a double cheeseburger (no ketchup)?
Please get a hit, Arod.
Don’t get comfortable Arod.
Make em pay Arod!
no intent…LMAO
The announcers at the WWL are going ON and ON and ON and ON about how Joba intentionally threw at Longoria. I can’t stand ESPN. Wish I lived somewhere that carried YES
make em pay arod!
there it is, its over. joba needs move on and continue getting outs
To further Todd’s comment
“ARod (and Michael Kay) were working out at the hotel this morning…”
That is the beginning of a good joke.
“hahahahahaha @ the debbie downer challenge. you’re better off sending them a blankie to cry into.”
LMAO!!!!
Dave, desperate people do desperate things! I am so sick and tired of hearing the (what I consider to be) stupidity thrown out here when any Yankee player has the audacity to mess up that I am willing to go and find the damned candy.
I’d be thrilled to send you some, especially now that I have a good place to order it from, though we do have some nice stuff right here in Rhody. Cripes who do I owe more for helping me maintain any semblance of santiy here than my positive friends!!!
Kay in a gym…………where’s the peephole video when you need it?????
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Oh god no!
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: The Rays are playing Black Crowes tunes when A-Rod comes up. Pretty funny.
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LOL!
Trisha -
funny story about rajai davis because he doenst play a whole lot. Im an A’s season ticket holder and i was at a game a few weeks ago and they do this segment in between innings where they challenge kids to spell. Well Rajai’s name was the one the kid had to spell. Well with help from the fans he did, and then the host ask the kid “is Rajai one of your favorite players” and the kid sighed for a second and said “which one is he”. Very funny. The kids was old enough to recognize players too
rays had a terrible offseason:
signing burrell prematurely to a 2 year $18 mil deal
and trading edwin jackson…
ESPN=Exclusive Sox Patriots Network
Your welcome Uncle.
heh, nice retaliation idiot, Arod make him pay like you are Rock Raines!
Man, how did Arod miss that. This next pitch better be a honey cause Arod has him timed.
He better walk him cause Arod is gonna take him downtown
It’s become old hat to kill Joe Morgan – and that’s fine. He’s not a good announcer.
But I have to say Sutcliffe is by far – by far – worse than Morgan.
Sutcliffe is absolutely horrendous. Insufferably bad.
And it’s very surprising that Sutcliffe isn’t criticized anywhere near what Morgan is.
Sutcliffe is horrendous.
Theres a special place in hell for the man who invented the cowbell
Cute kid story……..One of my patients, a little girl around age 8, had a Yankee tee shirt on…I said “I guess you like the Yankees, huh? Who’s your favorite player, Derek Jeter?” She says “I don’t know any of the players, my Grandpa gave me the shirt…”
I guess I’m in the minority, I don’t think Sutcliffe is all that bad.
Rex Hudler and Joe Magrane are really, really bad.
A-Rod = Joke
a rod battled his ass off. bad result tho.
bad swing..swung at ball 4..iono didnt look like a strike at all
leave it to ARod to whiff in a clutch situation
Arod had such a good AB and ended up swinging at a garbage pitch…
MattChud, don’t know if they have it tonight, but try this website: http://sticktv.net/
aroddd…you took some close pitches then swung at that
There is A Clutch…swings at ball 4 outside and in the drirt….
Cal=Troll
This is what kills me about Arod, he can’t understand that when he puts two scary swings on a foul ball that the pitcher is going to want nothing to do with him – but he gets overanxious and goes fishing instead of taking the walk and passing the baton.
What’s sound is worse????? Cowbell, jackhammer, windchimes, or vacuum????????????
Garza is up to 73 pitches.
That at bat to ARod costs him 9 extra pitches. And they were high stress pitches.
Irish Johnny,
You’re an Irish Fool.
Damon & Swisher
Arod always swings and misses on that slider by about 2 feet everytime. It is ugly to watch him miss that so badly.
or not
Penny > CC
rays had a terrible offseason:
signing burrell prematurely to a 2 year $18 mil deal
and trading edwin jackson…
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Burrell was no way predicted to bust this hard
the jackson trade was good if you expected him to regress. Instead he broke out.
RDM must be ready to post something of great intelligence after that walk
Arod…7 rbi’s since 7/12 says it all
me = Royal Yankee Fan
Stop the whining peeps, we are winning. Sox are losing too.
Cal’s IQ < 50
trisha- thanks for the link, that site looks great
I don’t why…but I really do not like Joe Magrane of the MLB Network.
I’m glad I got that off my chest.
LOL Pat BOOrrell
“What’s sound is worse????? Cowbell, jackhammer, windchimes, or vacuum????????????”
I guess you’ve never heard a banjo.
Even though I hope he’ll pitch a shutout, I still believe Joba will implode at some point here.
“But I have to say Sutcliffe is by far – by far – worse than Morgan.
Sutcliffe is absolutely horrendous. Insufferably bad.
And it’s very surprising that Sutcliffe isn’t criticized anywhere near what Morgan is.
Sutcliffe is horrendous”
thank you. And may God bless you, for these truths.
Todd July 29th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
What’s sound is worse????? Cowbell, jackhammer, windchimes, or vacuum????????????
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chris berman…
OK, all of you giving A-Rod grief for that at bat: please remeber he is going to make out way more often than he comes through. This is also true of Albert Pujols, Hanley Ramirez, Ichiro Suzuki, or any other star you want to compare him to.
To call him a “Joke” or “unclutch” or say he “always swings at garbage pitches” is just plain wrong.
Look at the whole body of work. That’s much more telling than one at-bat.
And A-Rod’s whole body of work, to this point, is as good as anybody who has played the game.
Wow. not a lot of Taffy lovers here.
“Penny > CC”
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true
Penny’s ERA is 4.95 and CC’s is only in the 3’s.
No way do I trade joba or hughes for Doc. If we do, the team will only be improved by the difference between Joba’s performance and Doc’s performance. It doesn’t make sense given how well Joba is pitching and what his potential is. Plus we are short a starter and we’d still need to make another deal for a 5.
“Burrell was no way predicted to bust this hard
the jackson trade was good if you expected him to regress. Instead he broke out.”
So why do the Rays get so much credit for Zobrist? I suppose he was predicted to become an elite power hitter?
Rays remind me of the Indians. Every move they make is rationalized as the right ones because all that matters is the “process” through which they make the move rather than the “outcome.”
Ruben Amaro is a fool for signing Ibanez. Friedman is a slick, rational exec for signing Burrell.
The empirical results produced change nothing.
Because it’s not possible that Amaro saw something in Burrell that scared him off and saw something in Ibanez – say the qualitative nature of his swing – that made him the right fit for the Phillies in that ball park.
djsunyc…………..I couldn’t agree more…………back,back,back,back,back……….
Don’t walk another guy.
Tarheelyank…are they dueling banjos?
“Wow. not a lot of Taffy lovers here”
lmao.
come on joba get navi here!
Mark Feinsand in the Daily news Top of the fifth is Death.
Top = Bottom
WATCHAGONNADO WHEN JOBAMANIA RUNS WILD ON YOU…BROTHER!!!
GJ Joba! Now lets get some more runs
That looked like a girl swinging……..Sorry girls…….
trisha: is the taffy offer for this game, or future games? Cuz if it is this game, i’m pretty sure i might be disqualified
nice job(a)
A Rod whiffs at ball 4 in the dirt….he is Mr Clutch..at least put the ball in play somewhere…we will see what Joba made of going through this linue up for the 3rd time next inning
Yanks leaving all kinds of runners on tonight…mark of a good pitcher in Garza
Navarro might have put the worst swing on a ball ever by a major league player on the ball he hit to left field, it looked like Damon was playing shortstop he had to move in so little.
We get the point RDM he didn’t get a hit no reason to repeat it 9 million times.
“Even though I hope he’ll pitch a shutout, I still believe Joba will implode at some point here.”
Joba very rarely “implodes”. A bad start for him is like 4 ER in 5 innings and 105 pitches thrown. That’s actually pretty impressive for a rookie starter.
joeman
Tex…..9 RBI since 7/12
Matsui…..6 RBI since 7/12
and there’s my fantasy catcher….
Kurt Suzuki hits a bomb of Penny!
6-3 A’s
off* Penny
Vader
Twice the torture! j/k
RDM, are you a Yankee fan? You seem to enjoy singling out A-Rod’s failures and challenging Joba.
Did you post here after one of A-Rod’s many big hits earlier in the season or a couple of weeks ago? Or do you just wait until after he strikes out to notice his at-bats?
Because it’s not possible that Amaro saw something in Burrell that scared him off and saw something in Ibanez – say the qualitative nature of his swing – that made him the right fit for the Phillies in that ball park.
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If you look at their process though it did make them look stupid. They said they wanted to get more athletic, better defense, younger, etc. Except there were only a few players worse defensively than burrell and ibanez was one. And he is super old. The one thing I’ll give Amaro is that they apparently looked at the ground he’d have to cover in CBP vs Safeco and decided his defense wouldnt be that big of a detriment as it was for the mariners.
Burrell just gets completely owned by AL pitching though.
lol July 29th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
We get the point RDM he didn’t get a hit no reason to repeat it 9 million times.
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when you have 3 canned responses saved, it’s tough to not sound repetetive…
6-3 A’s
haven’t some of you figured out that Joba has made a big step forward in his development in the past two weeks? It happens like that for players with tons of talent sometimes, a light switch goes on about how to be successful
We get it, some of ya’ll don’t like Arod but there’s a game on so let’s watch shall we?
MG,
Before you said that if you read all the comments here on this board you’d never know the team is up 2-0 rather than losing.
And that’s true.
Question – if you only listened to Sutcliffe’s belly aching and knew nothing about the standings would you have any idea that the yankees were in first place or were even a good team?
Kurt Suzuki homers to put the A’s up 6-3.
I’m really impressed with this Suzuki kid. He’s like a .340 career hitter against the Yankees AND he has a 20-game hitting streak against the Red Sox.
Anyone hear that? They are talking about Posada and how much he has meant over the year, and Sutcliffe just says ‘Varitek’ out of nowhere and then gets cut off. I mean, what is his obsession with the red sox?
No observer he’s always like that, one big whine fest.
2 more innings Jobber…
- 6-3 A’s, top 5th
YES! Brad Penny’s a blob!
CB
July 29th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
MG,
Before you said that if you read all the comments here on this board you’d never know the team is up 2-0 rather than losing.
And that’s true.
Question – if you only listened to Sutcliffe’s belly aching and knew nothing about the standings would you have any idea that the yankees were in first place or were even a good team?
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I’ve been watching the ESPN feed for the past 2 1/2 innings because listening to the Rays feed is like hearing nails on a blackboard so anything is better (except Suzyn Waldman). I don’t really hear any bias in Sutcliffe, it’s possible that your issues with him are that he just talks about himself all the time instead of the game.
Robbie!!!
Robi!!
Cano…
dont ya know!
Doncha know.
CANO!!! His homerun swings are so beautiful to watch.
Observer283
just ignore him, he’s not worth the effort you expend in typing.
Cano…..YA
ROBBIEEEEEE. That looked effortless
Robbie!
ROBI INFLICTS SOME PAIN ON TB NOW!
don’t cha know??
robbie ruth…
The fountain gives up a HR to Cano!
Robbie!
pain no mo
HRobinson Cano.
hey baby what up
Robi looks like Barry Bonds with that pose
Cano is so underappreciated by the LoHud cognescenti, maybe he needs to be a prospect instead of an experienced major leaguer.
GB – my pleasure.
In fact I think I will send you the Rhody kind just because you can get the other kind I would think whenever you want it.
yankeetrisha@cox.net
michelle – email received!
vinny b – we can absolutely do it for a future game! But the rule is that you have to be here for the entire game and chat with us to let us know you are. Of course the best would be if the Yanks are losing! He he he. But all you have to do is announce it at the beginning of the game, before first pitch.
Uncle – I think “not a lot of taffy lovers” may be euphemistic for “hell no I’m not going to stop blitcing!”
I don’t know how in the world Garza is 7-7 with a 3.68 era.
Everytime I have seen him he’s as tough a pitcher as they come.
Joba just keeps getting better and better.
Can someone bottle up Suzyn Waldman’s laugh and use it as chemical warfare on the battlefield? Let’s just unleash it on the Red Sox at Fenway.
NYY626 July 29th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
ROBBIEEEEEE. That looked effortless
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Cano does it no other way.
MG
July 29th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Cano is so underappreciated by the LoHud cognescenti, maybe he needs to be a prospect instead of an experienced major leaguer.
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Post of the Night Nominee.
Garzas a headcase. He was dealing, he has to stop for a minute because Cano got hit by the ricochet. Then he gives up an HR. Focus son!
That overhead shot of Cano’s swing reminded be of the great George Brett’s swing…….Cano is so very good, and he’s only going to get better……
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/in.....h_and.html
Swishy walks
“If you look at their process though it did make them look stupid.”
So you had a global and completely transparent understanding of both their respective processes?
This is a serious point. The whole process vs. outcome paradigm choice is nothing new or complex. It’s like management 101.
Ever since “Depo” wrote a blog column about it, it’s as if the idea were some massive innovation in thought.
So if you are going to rely on process based analysis you have to have a comprehensive model for how process relates to positive outcomes. And part of that is assessing for omitted variable bias.
Or you can just assume you understand the entire process and dismiss Amaro as a fool.
Which was done routinely all over the blogosphere.
And this isn’t even getting into the whole Jackson debacle.
I think Friedman’s process was terrible because he fundamentally got wrong the key aspect to any personnel move – he misjudged talent.
And in the case of Jackson that was a potentially franchise altering event.
They bet the farm that Jackson was the smoke and mirrors product of their defense – that he was still on a linear improvement trajectory.
And they were hugely wrong.
It’s funny how little criticism the Tampa FO ever gets.
They get credit for Ben Zobrist and excused for Burrell and Jackson.
But that’s the danger of monocultures that completely focus on process.
“YES! Brad Penny’s a blob!”
come on jeter…give us some cushion
with 2 outs – homerun, walk, and a single. garza – the signs of a good pitcher…lol…
TB stole Garza from MIN
Wouldn’t mind him on our staff
Austin Romine not in Tampa Yankees line-up. Take it for what it’s worth, something could be up
Pat M…. July 29th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
“Cano is so very good, and he’s only going to get better……”
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only if he wants to.
Well, I guess I now see why he’s 7-7.
Can’t seem to keep it going. Nevertheless, he is an impressive young pitcher.
Psyluk
Suzy channels Phyllis Diller and Joan Rivers, at the same time.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member whose new BFF is Rajai Davis
July 29th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
GB – my pleasure.
In fact I think I will send you the Rhody kind just because you can get the other kind I would think whenever you want it.
yankeetrisha@cox.net
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Thank you, Trish. I’d like to give the northern style a try. I’ll send you a message after the game. These posts from the trolls are too entertaining to miss.
CB, about Sutcliffe-I would much rather listen to Jim Katt, Conie, O’Neill, Singleton, Flaherty, Kay, Bill White, Frank Messer, the Ghost of Phil Rizzuto and just about anyone else except Rex Hudler and Joe Magrane…
A’s 6, Sox 3 5th
jeter hit it hard…keep goin joba!
ok…2 more innings from joba and then give it to hughes + mo…
Do you guys think there’s some degree of “friendly competition” going on between Hughes and Joba? I just wonder because Hughes is succeeding where Joba once did, while Joba has become the more successful starter.
two more runners left stranded
“it’s possible that your issues with him are that he just talks about himself all the time instead of the game.”
MG,
Good point. I really dislike him and that’s part of it. He just won’t stop talking – and he’s always talking about some issue related to himself and his own experience playing the game.
I miss Rizzuto, Messer & White
who cares if people “hit the ball hard”, really, an out is an OUT!!!
RDM, you must think real baseball is like a video game, I feel sorry for you…
thanks for keeping count RDM!
http://www.nationalpost.com/sp.....id=1842377
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the FEAR of the REALITY that DOC is coming to da Bronx is GRIPPING da hosers !
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Pat M….
July 29th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
That overhead shot of Cano’s swing reminded be of the great George Brett’s swing…….Cano is so very good, and he’s only going to get better……
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Yeah, and the finish was reminencent of Griffey, Jr., too.
RDM is my nominee for worst fan ever.
Swish didn’t slide on that play tonight. THANK YOU!
Detroit Tigers manager Jim Leyland confirmed today that the New York Yankees have interest in outfielder Josh Anderson,
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Uh…why?
He has to be the most miserable human being on the planet.
Dave
I do think so. IMO, it drives Joba more than Phil.
“If you look at their process though it did make them look stupid.”
So you had a global and completely transparent understanding of both their respective processes?
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I am not giving Tampa credit for anything. I think their FO is a bunch of a pussies, because they won’t make a big trade that they need. I can definitely understand why they got Burrell and why they traded Jackson. Nothing about Edwin Jackson suggested he was going to break out. He STILL gave up a ton of hits and STILL had a low strike out rate AND STILL had a high walk rate last season and he had a pedestrian ERA. Now he cut his WHIP by a third.
I am basing my assessment of Amaro off of the phillies public statements about their acquisition of Ibanez and the fact that they completely misjudged the market for outfielders.
Let’s go Joba!
Swish may be a bad outfielder but he sure has a sense of humor, did you see him motion about closing his glove after he caught that ball?
You guys are on fire tonight!
Pepitone -
Kevin Kennedy yesterday was talking about Garza and how it really seems a chore for him to focus. Said he can usually focus really well for big games and against “big” teams, but he can’t seem to sustain the same focus from one start to the next, necessarily. It’s something they’re working on with him. He was saying he things he could be one of the best pitchers in baseball if he could harness the ability to focus.
(I think Kennedy is now covering Tampa games)
“TB stole Garza from MIN”
and at the time it looked like the complete opposite
Pat M….
July 29th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
That overhead shot of Cano’s swing reminded be of the great George Brett’s swing…….Cano is so very good, and he’s only going to get better……
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Yep, and I remember last year there was a hue and cry to trade him before his value dipped any lower.
Cano can be frustrating, he can be a headcase, and he can be an adventure in the field, but I don’t know any other second baseaman in the bigs that I would be willing to trade him for.
That is why I am against this Halladay trade talk. You don’t get rid of your young players for a veteran gamble, no matter how good he may be.
Joba’s average fastball velocity tonight – 92.
And look at how bad the Tampa Bay swings are against him.
He’s overpowering them sitting 92-95.
It’s all location.
The Rays are playing Black Crowes tunes when A-Rod comes up. Pretty funny.
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Is it? Because I think it’s a little messed up.
Yanks don’t do that kind of stuff. Do they?
I’m squinting again and I still see a chunky, dark haired Halladay.
i give rdm props tho. obviously he likes attention and he’s getting it. probably just made his evening. now he can tell all his friends tomorrow during recess.
rdm – 1
lohud blog – 0
VT Yankeefan the Original
July 29th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Detroit Tigers manager Jim Leyland confirmed today that the New York Yankees have interest in outfielder Josh Anderson,
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Uh…why?
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Outfield defense for the system and base running speed.
L to the 2nd
July 29th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I miss Rizzuto, Messer & White
Me too
Joba is just painting the corners with his fastball, this is very, very impressive…
Boy, if Joba keeps pitching like this – we have some first 3. Imagine Joba and Phil topping the rotation for years to come – nice dream, and maybe it will come true.
longoria gave joba a wicked stare down there…
Sit down Eva Longoria LOL baby!
Longoria is pissedddd.
I was in Roosevelt Field Mall tonight and walked past the Steiner Sports Store. I noticed the following upcoming autograph signings: (Listen up Betsy!!!!)
Phil Hughes Thursday August 27th
Joe Girardi September 13th
Yogi Berra August 8th
I thought some of you might appreciate this. If nothing else you can always ambush Girardi and try to get him to play your line up submissions
joba…thank you
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA @ longoria staring at joba. i’m lovin every minute of this!!
Complete game for Joba?
damn joba, you’re going to reach that innings limit fast huh?
I can’t believe Tampa’s deliberately driving up Joba’s innings count so that they’ll have to watch him during the stretch run of the season
The Yankees should just send Joba home to Nebraska every time he has a bad start.
OT but still baseball oriented.
Bodhisattva (bod) and I have our own version of Casey at Bat going, and we are having such a good time with it.
My dad introduced my brothers, sisters and I to the poem when we were growing up, and he used to read it to us all the time. Last night after the game I found it in its entirety and read it aloud. I used the same inflection he used to use when he read it. (”Strike one!!!!!” the umpire said.)
After I read it I had a good cry. What a special dad I had. And I really miss him so much. I just hope he always realized how important he was to us.
And now of course, I will go and have another good cry.
Sox are willing to trade Brad Penny for some loose change…………..
does Joba look/remind anyone of Jeret Wright (circa Cleveland Indians 1997)
(i hope not)
great job joba lets go offense
man how impressive was that inning, he got 2 quick outs…then got into al il trouble..then quick 2 quick 95 mph fastballs for strikes…then nasty slider to K their best hitter…i mean this is what we came to expect from joba…its comin to fruition..its a marvel to watch
Think Joba is in Longoria’s head?
Three pitch K.
Joba at 79 pitches through 6 innings.
That an average of 13 pitches per inning.
AL average is around 16 pitches per inning.
On our way to gaining another game over the Sox!
longoria was definitely eyeballing joba (probably waiting for the fist pumping). Joba was upping his velocity to94 too so that offspeed totally fooled Longo into an early swing. He’s out for blood now.
“But that’s the danger of monocultures that completely focus on process.”
i have to learn to write like cb.
who coould argue with that ?
if i’ve told you all once , i’ve told you a thousand times,
watch out for monocultures
nice change by joba.. he is there 3rd starrter in the playoffs if he pitches anything like this..
joba looks great. very few changes the whole night but that one was nasty..
how can you guys watch NESPN??Sutcliffe is a baffoon..
agree with CB – Joba is totally in Longo’s head now.
CB
July 29th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Joba’s average fastball velocity tonight – 92.
And look at how bad the Tampa Bay swings are against him.
He’s overpowering them sitting 92-95.
It’s all location.
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this is why you don’t waste him (or Hughes) in the 8th inning for their careers. After these 3 starts it’s going to be tough to keep him out of the rotation in the playoffs because he’s likely to pitch like this the rest of the season.
“He was saying he things he could be one of the best pitchers in baseball if he could harness the ability to focus.”
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Thanks, Doreen. I figured it had something to do with either focus, or conditioning. He’s got too good of stuff to be floundering around at 7-7. He’s still young, he’ll learn.
I can see it now, Hank salivating…Joba…Joba…
So CC winds up thw weak link this series.
Go figure.
“Thank you, Trish. I’d like to give the northern style a try. I’ll send you a message after the game. These posts from the trolls are too entertaining to miss.”
Erica, what time are the signings? I met Pettitte in 95 doing a signing, highlight of my young life lol
who’s the better pitcher right now? Kershaw or Joba? They’re pretty similar.
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
July 29th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
“Because Damon needs rest more than Cabrera. And because Swish sucks as an outfielder.”
Damon plays more often than Cabrera should. Swisher is a better OF than Duncan.
Even if Damon needs a rest more what would you rather have happen. Here are your options:
Bench Damon, play Duncan in LF.
Bench Damon, play Swisher in LF, Hinske in RF.
Bench Damon, play Swisher in LF, Duncan in RF.
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PTPH-
If you are out there- you forgot a scenario
Bench Damon, make Erica sad
I wonder if Gammons still believes the Red Sox can get a Justin Smoak level prospect for Brad Penny:)
Hey Guys
Outstanding game from Jobber today so far.
How’s that pitching depth going Boston?
NYY626
July 29th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Erica, what time are the signings? I met Pettitte in 95 doing a signing, highlight of my young life lol
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They varied. The Phil Hughes one was at 6-7:30 in the evening
Girardi’s was an afternoon I believe. So was Yogis.
Steiner sports could probably give you better info. I just wanted to pass it on
http://metsforever.blogspot.com/
Pete the Sox Fan, scroll to May 2, 2004.
Oakland nice job
NYY626
July 29th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Erica, what time are the signings? I met Pettitte in 95 doing a signing, highlight of my young life lol
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I played golf with Andy (and Roger) in 2003 at my club in San Francisco, Andy is just a great guy even if his golf ability (at the time) wasn’t up to his standards.
Joba should be pitching in AAA for a year to get himself straightened out. He clearly can’t figure it out on his own at the major league level. Also, he’s out of shape and going to turn into one of those flash-in-the-pan type guys with a short flame of success in the major leagues. Oh, right, I forgot it’s been two weeks since any of that was being discussed and it’s all looking pretty irrelevant right now.
It’s very much appreciated Erica, Thanks!
CB, Chamberlain is just playing catch with Jorge….His tempo on the hill is just superb, he looks so much improved from what I saw in Anahiem just a few weeks ago….He’s spotting his fastball and everything is working off that pitch…..Excellent ….
This ump is one of the rare good ones
A Rod is the worst GEES
“if i’ve told you all once , i’ve told you a thousand times,
watch out for monocultures”
Randy
is a monoculture another way to say Cashman
The Realist July 29th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
http://metsforever.blogspot.com/
Pete the Sox Fan, scroll to May 2, 2004.
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it would explain the strong dislike for arod…
who’s in arod’s head?
well that stinks, lol
Grah, Alex. Geez.
Can A Rod move and bat like 7th or 8th…typical AB…strike one down the middle, ball, strike two, ball, GIDP…..
8-3 A’s
A-Rod hits into a double play ………….
I didn’t say a thing.
Trisha-
Can I get in on the chart??? I am going for the even 100!
Again, I think the “no one likes to pitch to Jorge” theory can be put to rest……
I don’t get Joe Magrane….sort of. I put it on MLB network and he says that Joba has no idea how to throw inside. Well, I sort of understand that because Joba air mailed that pitch (forget who it was to)……but then he praises Garza for retaliating the right way. Now, I don’t think Garza was at all trying to hit or hurt Tex, but that pitch came awfully close to the middle of his back. How again is that the right way to pitch?
I always thought Phil should have been untouchable. I’m glad he put himself back in that category again, but he never should have been out of it. What arms they have……and they are complimentary to each other. Joba is the classic power pitcher – Phil, he almost seems a hybrid (of whom, I don’t know, but he’s got such a good arm and such impeccable command). I’m crossing my fingers that these kids stay healthy.
A Rod apologizes to you Joba…
Let’s go A’s!
The fact that Pete is a red Sox fan explains his hatred for A-Rod and Joe G, his underrating of Yankee prospects, and his open bias.
It’s sad some Yankee fans take his opinion as gospel.
SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!
Oakland busts it open 8-3 in the 6th.
You smell that!?!
You smell that!?!
I smell a 3 1/2 game lead.
Impact signings: Brad Penny, John Smoltz, Rocco Baldelli
What is it with people’s obsession with Alex? My god, the man is human – he just can’t do enough for some people. Oh well, let them be miserable – I just hope they do not cheer for him when he does well.
A’s offense is on fire. Giambi on the DL, Holliday traded- no problem…they went out and pummeled Minnesota’s pitching. Yanks did a pretty good job holding them down but now they’ve scored 17 runs in Fenway Park in two days.
RDM wants Cody Ransom playing 3rd base every game, I just figured that out.
great pitch joba…nasty
A-Rod doesn’t have to apologize to Joba or to anyone……lol
brad penny is no livan
when will these teams learn ?
just get livan and have a good bad starter who will fill that # 5 slot with inning eating quality starts.
um, 99mph??
The YES gun is always good for a laugh. Joba somehow now throwing 99? Hilarious.
Yeah, Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup ) I was going to comment on CB’s monocultures , however I decided to be with everyone else here and try to figure out what the hell the he was really talking about….I finished college in 1976, but I was kind of lost with all that….I do know that Edwin Jackson is an outstanding talent, and Tampa screwed up on that trade….
the yes gun is as passionate as the fans
Erica – you have just been added to the chart.
JOBA
Erica – no way! Phil in my neck of the woods – lol, I may faint. Now if AJ would just come out here……I have NO idea what I will say to Phil……
Betsy, Magrane broadcast Rays games for 10 years, that should explain everything to you. Besides, he sucks anyway.
Betsy, like I said earlier….
July 29th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
I don’t why…but I really do not like Joe Magrane of the MLB Network.
I’m glad I got that off my chest.
Great job Joba…
“Impact signings: Brad Penny, John Smoltz, Rocco Baldelli”
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I guess that puts a dent in the armor of that “great” Sox GM …. what was his name again?
Who are you, and what have you done to Joba Chamberlain?
<<<impressed…good job joba you impressed 19 year old college student
Its so funny I wrote a post joking about him being a Sox fan. He deleted my post immediately and temporarily banned me from posting.
Then in an email exchange he claimed to be a Braves fan.
This was during a Yankees loss when he basically was taunting the Yankee fans.
The truth comes out.
Wow MG thats awesome! I’d love to spend a day with Andy!
Nice try Pat Squirrel
NYY626
July 29th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
It’s very much appreciated Erica, Thanks!
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Sure, I am always thinking of my LoHud peeps!
The best 3-game stretch of Joba’s career. I don’t care what anyone says. This guy has the stuff to be a fantastic starter and needs to stay in the rotation.
We should have trade Joba for Halladay, right guys?
99 mph? someone tell me what gameday saids.
The Realist
July 29th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Pete the Sox Fan, scroll to May 2, 2004.
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You have way too much time on your hands.
I mean really, who cares who Pete rooted for growing up? His job is to cover the Yankees and he does a great job giving us info we’d otherwise never have access too.
This is his blog. He can write whatever he wants. You don’t like it, go somewhere else.
Honestly, some people are ridiculous.
That should be it for Joba. Awesome start, 3 run lead, no need to burn innings and have him pitch the 8th. Let Hughes handle it and Joba can call it a night.
88 pitches in 7 innings. Do you managers control Chamberlain’s innings or bring him out for the 8th inning?
I would bring him back out.
“The fact that Pete is a red Sox fan explains his hatred for A-Rod and Joe G, his underrating of Yankee prospects, and his open bias”
please crawl back under your rock.
will this start (and the last two) permanently put to rest the ‘Joba to the bullpen’ crap forever? He is going to be a stud in the rotation for a long time and is blossoming right in front of us…
Joba’s on – 90 pitches – does he start the 8th?
95 on GD
“just get livan and have a good bad starter who will fill that # 5 slot with inning eating quality starts.”
Plus, he can be a right handed hitting pinch hitter.
“is a monoculture another way to say Cashman”
tarheel yank-
i have no idea what cb said , but it sounded so good i got hypnotized.
Came home to a great outing by Joba. Nice! what’s his pitch count, can he go CG?
Oy. Young pitchers.
Anderson walks Lowell to lead off the 6th with a five-run lead.
Pep,
You were talking before about the young players on the yankees.
When’s the last time the yankees had a 23 year old putting pitching at the level Joba has been over these past several games.
It’s just unbelievable. He’s 23.
Not even Guidry was doing this at 23. He never got a real shot at that age.
GB7 and I were talking about how good Mel Stottelmeyer was as a player before he got hurt. Never saw him play but I’d have to guess he might have been the last 22-23 year old the yanks had that with stuff similar to Joba. Righetti never had close to Joba’s stuff.
Though I’d have to guess Joba was better than Stottlmeyer. But I think he might be the last comparable arm they had (excluding Hughes of course…)
Let’s see, against a “contending team” the Rays.
Halladay on 7/24 against Tampa: 9IP 2ER
Joba today against Tampa: 7IP 0ER, and still going strong
Keep Joba! Say no to Halladay.
I should go to see Yogi, too…..and Joe. Man, I will be so tongue-tied…….
Sui turns on the after burners
Hideki running like a gazelle out there, the spruce goose is loose!
Betsy
July 29th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Erica – no way! Phil in my neck of the woods – lol, I may faint. Now if AJ would just come out here……I have NO idea what I will say to Phil……
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Betsy, you have 4 weeks to figure it out!! LOL.
When I got to meet Stevie Nicks in March (after 10 years of dreaming of the day) I stuttered like an idiot and cried after. LOL. You can’t possibly be worse than that
Let me know if you wind up going to the signing though. I would love to stop by and say hi!
Pepitone………..may I add Matt Clement & Julio Lugo to the great signings of ‘The Boy Genius’?
matsui looks like he’s running in reverse…
tex’s friend that was his top speed today?
“The best 3-game stretch of Joba’s career. I don’t care what anyone says. This guy has the stuff to be a fantastic starter and needs to stay in the rotation”
yes. IF he stays healthy
Pete can be a fan of any team he wants, including the Sox. It does not seem to affect his professional integrity.
BUNT BUNT BUNT BUNT
Todd
July 29th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Sox are willing to trade Brad Penny for some loose change…………..
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…and an egg of Silly Putty
Thanks Trisha for putting me in!
You should start participating in “Guess the Line Up”. We play every weekday, starting at 2 for 7pm starts. Tomorrow it will start at 3
I don’t care who is up BUNT, get runner to 3rd and give Yanks 2 chances to get the 4th run…
I bring Joba back out to start the 8th and bring in Hughes if someone gets on, that’s a pretty standard move made by good managers forever. He’s been so dominant and getting outs so easily it doesn’t make sense to pull him without giving him a chance to go 1-2-3 in the 8th.
MG, lol……….Finding mediots to make idiotic comments about the Yankees is like finding the hidden Mickey’s at Disney, except it’s not that much fun to find them.
Pat M, didn’t you say the Angels passed on Phil for Jared Weaver?
Agree GB7, send him out.
First sign of trouble –Yooooouz, Mo
Very important run out there….let’s go Yanks
Trisha
Wins Chart
will the latecomers have an asterisk to denote that they had the benefit of 3/5 of the season being played to guess?
Sorry Erica.
good move pinch running
Cody Ransom sighting. He is going to do some serious vertical leaping on his way home this inning.
“Pete can be a fan of any team he wants, including the Sox. It does not seem to affect his professional integrity.”
That may be different if he covered the Mets.
Miss Gardy here. Any word updates on how much longer he’s gone?
95 is top speed so far today on gameday.
What a 3 game stretch from Joba!
Making me look foolish that I believe he will be a reliever.
keep this up and you could start all you want. And this is a big game to me. Win a series against one of the few really good teams in the league. (Sorry betsy, the Rangers and Twins aren’t in that league yet).
CB, I was 17 when Stott came up midyear in ‘64, he was a sinkerball pitcher and didn’t throw as hard as Joba. Think Wang with a better slider.
Keep Joba and Hughes and let them develop. If those two turn into top of the rotation starters, then it won’t matter if Sabathia and/or Burnett decline towards the end of their contracts.
Look at the SF Giants…Zito is way overpaid but it doesn’t matter because they have Lincecum and Cain making pennies. At some point, it becomes really valuable to have great, CHEAP, young starters.
prediction:
if NYY wins this game, they are in the playoffs.
” I was going to comment on CB’s monocultures , however I decided to be with everyone else here and try to figure out what the hell the he was really talking about….”
pat m-
…but you know it totally made sense right. i have no idea what he meant, but you know it meant something.
it’s like a zen thing. you have to look the other way to see it
Joba has been lights out!
And LETS GO A’S! KEEP IT UP!!
I bring Joba back out for the 8th. If he really struggles, bring in Hughes. I don’t pull him at the first base-runner necessarily, but it depends on his pitch count and such.
Erica, I’m almost positive I’m going to go to see Phil – I’d love to meet you. We could tag team him…….. I really have a hard time with getting intelligble English out in front of celebrities. One time I went to a Knicks welcome home dinner (this was years ago, when they were good) and I practically hid behind my father. Still, Phil is so approachable that I think it will be ok……
Who cares if Pete is a Sox fan? He does a kick ass job on the blog (by far, the best baseball related blog on the internet, incidentally).
randy,
Thanks (I think… really don’t mean to be confusing…).
I know it’s your busy time of year but we miss you around here. Glad you stopped by.
I’m really bummed about Wang, but the team is really playing good ball.
Try to stop my more.
Posada baby!!!
BIG BIG HIT…………HUGE!!!!
Posada!
HIP HIP
I just hope all the Joba to the bullpen talk will finally go away. Anyway, Joba is pitching lights out.
Nice job. Jorge coming through with a timely tack-on.
RDM
July 29th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
I don’t care who is up BUNT, get runner to 3rd and give Yanks 2 chances to get the 4th run…
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What’s the word they like to use around here? Oh yeah. Fail.
joba absolutely comes out for the start of the 8th but have hughes get ready…..
vinny-b (keep Montero)
July 29th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
prediction:
if NYY wins this game, they are in the playoffs.
Not like you are going out on a ledge or anything…but I hope your prediction comes true.
RDM, I’m giong to teach you some baseball here, I know you won’t listen or understand:
runner on 2nd, no one out, veteran left pull hitter at bat, the last thing you would do if you knew anything about baseball is bunt. Anything on the ground to the right side gets him to 3rd anyway and a fly ball might also. Now STFU
“When’s the last time the yankees had a 23 year old putting pitching at the level Joba has been over these past several games.”
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I saw Stottlemeyer pitch during his rookie season, and he had nowhere near the stuff Chamberlain has.
I thought Righetti was something special when he first came up, but his career didn’t turn out the way he would have liked I’m sure.
You’re right, I cannot remember a 23 year old pitcher with such a great future as the Yankees have with him, and Hughes! That is why I have been totally opposed to trading our young talent. Now we have two young men, with more to come, who will be around for a long long time – barring a major injury of course.
I would also leave Joba out there, although the problem is if Phil is warming up at the beginning of the 8th in case Joba gets in trouble, and then Joba has an easy inning, it means that Phil will have warmed up for nothing. I’d like to avoid that.
Yeah, I don’t feel any Sox-fan undertones in his posts. Plenty of Yankees fans hate A-Rod and there are one hundred comments calling for the firing of Girardi in here every day.
damn nice play
I had monoculture is high school.
Uncle Ellsworth (turn off your mind relax and float downstream)
July 29th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Trisha
Wins Chart
will the latecomers have an asterisk to denote that they had the benefit of 3/5 of the season being played to guess?
Sorry Erica.
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It’s cool Uncle E. I agree with you 100%. Trisha, I deserve an asterisk
somebody should call francessa & ask him how his boy porcello is doing compared to joba.
he should admit he was wrong.
Betsy July 29th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Erica, I’m almost positive I’m going to go to see Phil – I’d love to meet you. We could tag team him……..
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betsy, it’s not even 10pm, kids are still reading this blog
The only thing is – what do we do about Joba’s innings limits? Skip him a few starts? I think that’s the only thing to do – we can’t afford to put him back in the pen, not with the way he’s pitching.
Uncle, I don’t think Erica would object to that and it is a good point. Anyone who signs up from today on will get that asterisk.
(I bet you’ll still have people here who, if they were honest, would probably guess 75 wins and unequivocally would rank the Sux higher.
)
NO TAFFY FOR THEM!
I’m really suprised at all the people who want Joba going out and pitching a pointless 8th inning. That 8th inning, 1-2-3 or not, is one less inning he’ll pitch going forward…
Complete game for Joba tonight?
What’s his pitch count now? And pitch limit?
Joba for the 8th?
“I do know that Edwin Jackson is an outstanding talent, and Tampa screwed up on that trade….”
Pat M.,
I know you knew that. In a very round about way that was what I was trying to say.
I do not have your talent for being succinct and to the point!
Numbers are important in assessing the game, IMO.
And they mean jack diddley if you don’t scout talent and have an eye for it.
That’s the substance. The numbers are secondary.
CB
July 29th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Pep,
You were talking before about the young players on the yankees.
When’s the last time the yankees had a 23 year old putting pitching at the level Joba has been over these past several games.
It’s just unbelievable. He’s 23.
Not even Guidry was doing this at 23. He never got a real shot at that age.
GB7 and I were talking about how good Mel Stottelmeyer was as a player before he got hurt. Never saw him play but I’d have to guess he might have been the last 22-23 year old the yanks had that with stuff similar to Joba. Righetti never had close to Joba’s stuff.
Though I’d have to guess Joba was better than Stottlmeyer. But I think he might be the last comparable arm they had (excluding Hughes of course…)
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Stottlemyre could be best described as the first version of Wang. 93 MPH 4 seam fastball and a hard sinker that just dropped like a forkball at about 91 MPH. Great control, double plays, game after game and stayed in all game long. He could field as well as Kaat and Mussina and a very good hitter. A two homer game, inside the park grand slam, and as a rookie threw a complete game shutout and had a 5-5 game at the plate in the same game.
that extra run allows Joba to probably pitch the 8th unless a couple of guys get on, they won’t let him face the tying run in any situation.
If they were smart they’d skip his next start.
With the off day they can just start Pettitte on regular rest. That also sets Joba up to face the Sox instead of Mitre.
Ok, Trisha, mark me at 99*
“The only thing is – what do we do about Joba’s innings limits? Skip him a few starts? I think that’s the only thing to do – we can’t afford to put him back in the pen, not with the way he’s pitching.”
I guess so, have him do side sessions skip him like 3-4 starts have him ready for rd.1 game 3 or 4.
Joba rules.
Why complete game? Is a CG shutout really considered THAT impressive?
Look!!! It’s Joba in the 8th inning!!!
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
Betsy
July 29th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
The only thing is – what do we do about Joba’s innings limits? Skip him a few starts? I think that’s the only thing to do – we can’t afford to put him back in the pen, not with the way he’s pitching.
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Betsy, thanks for coming over from the dark side on Joba, it’s much sunnier over here…
Hughes warming up why Joe?
miggs July 29th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
If they were smart they’d skip his next start.
With the off day they can just start Pettitte on regular rest. That also sets Joba up to face the Sox instead of Mitre.
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good idea miggs…
“The only thing is – what do we do about Joba’s innings limits?”
You work on putting some distance between you and the other teams in the standings now and you have more options when that decision comes.
Think if they let Joba get a CG Phil will be pissed? He was not too happy when he wasn’t allowed to finish back in May
Glad to see everyone has jumped back on the Joba bandwagon.
ring ring.
cashman answers
this is the gm of toronto
how can i help you
we will take joba or hughes,you decide
click,dial tone.
inning limit is stupid, considering innings can be 5 pitches or 25.
2 DOWN
I know you knew that. In a very round about way that was what I was trying to say.
I do not have your talent for being succinct and to the point!
Numbers are important in assessing the game, IMO.
And they mean jack diddley if you don’t scout talent and have an eye for it.
That’s the substance. The numbers are secondary.
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Its also important to understand that sometimes performance trumps talent. There are plenty of hard throwers who never put it together. Or guys who take a long time to put together a decent run.
Nothing other than Edwin jackson’s stuff suggested he would be more than average.
DJSUNYC, lol – no, I think the kids and the trolls went to bed as soon as the Yankees scored a run.
Joba’s innings limit is obviously a made-up story perpetuated by the liberal elite in the mainstream media.
2/3rds of “Generation Trey” flashing their brilliance this season.
A season late but still…thanks Cashman for being forward thinking.
Joba at 94 pitches. 2 outs in the 8th
Jobber looks like an animal right now. Bartlett wasn’t even in the box and he was in the stretch. Prbly why he’s 3-0 on him right now.
discretion is the better part of valor – no ninth
MG,
Thanks for the info on mel. The Wang comparison is very helpful. I knew mel threw hard but didn’t know he was that much of a sinker guy.
So does any other young pitcher – I mean 22-23 – that the team has had remind you of Joba?
If it’s not Mel then you start going back to some very special teams and players.
here comes Hughes if he’s ready…
eiland just asked jorge if joba was good and jorge said “he’s good”…
Is this Joba Chamberlain or Mark Buerhle? Get ball, pitch ball. Keep it up, Jobber.
Joba, Hughes, then Mo. The way it should be.
“Pete can be a fan of any team he wants, including the Sox. It does not seem to affect his professional integrity.”
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although I agree…
can any of you imagine being the beat writer for the Red Sox?
would it affect how you feel about players like Papelbon, Beckett, Youk, etc?
I’m not sure how I’d feel about covering the Sox so intimately as a diehard Yanks fan…
Betsy July 29th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Erica, I’m almost positive I’m going to go to see Phil – I’d love to meet you. We could tag team him……..
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Okay Betsy, I am in! I am just not 100% sure about getting the autograph yet. Patience for things like waiting in line is not something I am very good at
i hope kennedy comes back strong too.
go generation trey
“inning limit is stupid, considering innings can be 5 pitches or 25.”
season pitches limit would make more sense.
MG, I never said I didn’t like Joba (he’s admittedly not my favorite Yankeee, that would be Mo – then AJ and Phil) – people misconstrued what I was saying. I think it’s possible, don’t you, to be critical of someone without disliking them? That’s what I was trying to do – and remember that I always said that Joba was a good kid at heart. I said that because I didn’t want people to think I had anything personal against him.
That said, Joba deserves a ton of credit and it’s only fair that I give it to him. I really do drool over the thought of he and Phil headlining our rotation.
anyone else think that joba isn’t on an innings limit but on a pitch limit? the yankees arent stupid….
Big Joba! Great job!
that was a DOMINATING performance by joba…
although he was older and the Yankees were ready to give up on him, Ron Guidry had just great stuff as did Dave Righetti. I can’t remember in my lifetime a pitcher this young coming up through the organization with the tools that both Joba and Phil have, that’s what makes this so special and why I want both of them in my rotation for years and years.
MG
July 29th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
CB, I was 17 when Stott came up midyear in ‘64, he was a sinkerball pitcher and didn’t throw as hard as Joba. Think Wang with a better slider.
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Stottlemyre came up from Richmond about a month after Luis Tiant did. Mid August and won 9 games. He had the misfortune of starting against Gibson in the WS. For a rookie, that’s some heady stuff. Sadly, his last game was almost 10 years to the day. He was a certain 250 game winner if he had stayed healthy.
Do you go to Yussssse or let him put his stamp on this game?
2 runs in his last 3 starts for Joba.. Best pitcher on the staff right now.. Great Job Joba!!
“Pete can be a fan of any team he wants, including the Sox. It does not seem to affect his professional integrity.”
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: The Rays are playing Black Crowes tunes when A-Rod comes up. Pretty funny.
most of the time.
Joba has always been so good in the 8th inning.
Player of the Game: Joba Chamberlain
The Rays are three outs away from becoming sellers.
right now, AJ and Joba are the 1-2 starters
great job joba…whatta performance in what was dubbed a “big game” and “big series” by the rays..3 more outs…whos pitching them?
“Would it affect how you feel about players like Papelbon, Beckett, Youk, etc?”
I actually don’t mind Papelbon and Beckett, besides in a competitive sense. Not really sure why. I can’t stand Youk though; I’d give him props when he did well, but it would take an awful lot for me to like him.
I hope Girardi lets Joba go for the CG. He doesn’t look like he’s struggled at all.
where are the Joba to the bullpen posts??
I haven’t seen any in a couple weeks.
Sutcliffe is a big bloated drunk.
Randy I, CB is like the old EF Hutton slogan, when CB talks everyone listens………..Betsy, The Angels passed on the HS phenom and went with the Long Beach State Jared Weaver who in their defense posted some insane numbers that season…..Although just about every area scout said that Philip Hughes will have the greater career……
Joba was amazing
Scorpio…the last 1/3 of Generation Trey had an aneurysm.
rays as sellers?
i call upton!
“although he was older and the Yankees were ready to give up on him, Ron Guidry had just great stuff as did Dave Righetti. I can’t remember in my lifetime a pitcher this young coming up through the organization with the tools that both Joba and Phil have, that’s what makes this so special and why I want both of them in my rotation for years and years.”
Where was this comment like 8-12 weeks ago when me and a few others neede help defending Joba & Hughes?
Total domination by the Jobber
If they were smart they’d skip his next start.
With the off day they can just start Pettitte on regular rest. That also sets Joba up to face the Sox instead of Mitre.
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I agree!!! That would be the smart move.
Betsy, I was thinking about your concerns about Andy and Joba in the rotation, I never thought you didn’t like him, just didn’t trust him to pitch well. It sounds like those concerns are out the window regarding Joba and, as soemone who has watched Andy pitch lots of games, he is going to be fine also now that his cutter is back.
So…Joba, Montero, and A-Jax for Halladay?
I mean really, 23 year olds with 3.58 ERA’s (this season, I believe his career ERA as a starter is even lower) in the AL East are a dime a dozen.
Melky Baby!!
LECHE!!!!!!!
Melky Man does it again.
MELK DOES A BODY GOOD!
Erica, I have no patience either – I’m not even really an autograph person. I would rather treasure memories…..
the daily analysis fro mthe shrewd bloggers. so aftr tonight joba is there 2nd starter if he gets bombed next week according to the shrewd talent evaluators he will be there 5th starter.
melky needed that..
bottom line if joba pitches anything like this he is a monster…..
anyone else thinks joba looks menacing as hell when he is on the dugout tonight not smiling or any type of communication?
Melky!
Joba was awesome tonight. I love watching him do well.
mELKY
Robbie and Leche going yard tonight.
I posited this somewheres else, but I wonder if (I am positive it must be something like) the yankees use a formula to calculate the innings limits.
Like Joba went 8 IP today, but they were unstressful, so maybe that only puts 4 Ip in the bank.
Or he threw 100 pitches, but often had a quick 1-2-3 inning, so he only gets dinged for 50-75
although I agree…
can any of you imagine being the beat writer for the Red Sox?
would it affect how you feel about players like Papelbon, Beckett, Youk, etc?
I’m not sure how I’d feel about covering the Sox so intimately as a diehard Yanks fan…
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Even Papelbon’s mother does not like him, so no need to be objective there.
The Melkman has been a pleasure to watch play all season. What a great turnaround, what a great story. LECHE!
Yusssse will pitch the 9th.
Joba only at 101 pitches. Let him finish it?
Boston Dave 2.0
July 29th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
where are the Joba to the bullpen posts??
I haven’t seen any in a couple weeks.
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They were replaced by trade Joba for Halladay
MELKY!!!!
Melkman delivers
Vader – I know, 2 outta 3 ain’t bad =)
Did anyone see Upton’s eyes before that pitch came in? It looked like he just had no clue what was coming next. I know it’s folksy to say that Joba went home to Nebraska and remembered that baseball is supposed to be fun but I want to know the real reason for this change in Joba. He’s working so much quicker and he’s just throwing whatever Posada is laying down. Pete, pin him down and find out who said what to Joba and what made it sink in
nevermind Who is Brian Brunney? will pitch the 9th.
Brandon, I wasn’t posting here at the time, but I use the screen name ‘ChairmanoftheBoard’ on the Daily News blog, I’m sure you could find plenty of things there if you wanted to waste time looking for them lol
3 1/2
Phil already warmed up – it’s a terrible idea to have him warm up and then not pitch. Let Phil go at it…..
http://kimberlyjones.mlblogs.c.....ys_hi.html
Good news on Aceves…….and funny stuff on George and Matsui, lol
MG
July 29th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
although he was older and the Yankees were ready to give up on him, Ron Guidry had just great stuff as did Dave Righetti. I can’t remember in my lifetime a pitcher this young coming up through the organization with the tools that both Joba and Phil have, that’s what makes this so special and why I want both of them in my rotation for years and years.
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I remember three with all of the talent in the world….once in a decade arm. Bill Burbeck, Gil Patterson and Al Leiter.
Melky’s shoulder is all better eh?
This is a very, very bad night . . . for Mike Francesa.
did Yes show joe shake Joba’s hand if not he’s coming out
Betsy
July 29th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Erica, I have no patience either – I’m not even really an autograph person. I would rather treasure memories…..
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When I saw that you were the first person I thought of. LOL.
We’ll definitely talk as it gets closer. I would love to hang out if possible
Waiting for Peter to take back his words from last post (”I personally would do Joba and Jesus Montero for him, but that’s just me.”)
out to pitch
NYY626 – you’ve been added
Uh oh. Sux scored a run. 8-4 bottom of the 8th, 2 down bases empty. I’m very scared!!!
Just kidding!
Ghost, he worked out a hitch in his delivery during the ASB and it’s possible that Harlan kicked his butt all over town and made him promise to just take the sign and throw the pitch without thinking too much.
Tex Baby!!!
MARKY BABY!
tex!
Tex gets his redemption!
whether we’re winning or losing, we score runs late in games. i love it…
Wow. The Yankee Stadium bandbox is at it again tonight
“the yankees only hit homeruns in the bandbox” blah blah blah
Tex hit that to Mexico.
it looks like Eduardo Ramirez could pitch the 9th inning now lol
MVP!
MVP!
MVP!
MVP!
Batting practice off Wheeler.
The Rays need a REAL closer.
Major bomb there!
Tex!!!!! Tied for league lead in home run.
Nice bomb from Tex. Holy cow! Is a 6 run lead enough for bruney?
Betsy – good question about the innings….
Joba, on regular rest, would be scheduled to pitch next Monday, August 3. However, the Yankees are off that day.
If I were Girardi, I would skip his spot and not pitch him on Tuesday. Instead, I would use Pettitte and then Mitre on Tuesday and Wednesday. This way Mitre would not have to start against the Sox on Thursday.
Rotation would look like this:
Thurs, 7/30 – Pettitte vs. White Sox
7/31 – Mitre vs. CWS
8/1 – AJ vs. CWS
8/2 – CC vs. CWS
8/3 (skip Joba)
8/4 – Pettitte (vs. Halladay??)
8/5 – Mitre
8/6 – AJ vs. Boston
8/7 – CC
8/8 – Joba (9 day rest)
8/9 – Pettitte
What do you all think of that?
Al please just pop it up, I’d rather you hit tomorrow. LOL
This team is scary good.
Forget Hughes or Mo.
It’s mop up duty now. Sweet game tonight.
*home runs
Is this a Bruney-proof lead now? Guess we won’t need Hughes tonight.
The Sox game is a long way from over. A’S are just giving up too many walks. Ugh.
Tex is mighty strong to hit a ball to the opposite field like that..
CM
July 29th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Tex!!!!! Tied for league lead in home run.
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Absolutely amazing considering he couldn’t hit the ball off a tee in April. MVP!
GB7 -
Stottlemyer was paired against Bob Gibson three times during the 64 series! He won game two against him, and barely lost game 5. He got shelled in game 7, but the kid really held his own against one of the greatest to play the game.
In my opinion Al Downing did more to lose that series than Mel Stottlemyer.
“I actually don’t mind Papelbon and Beckett”
GTFO!
6-0 I would like to see Melancon.
time for an RDM post complaining about Arod.
No worries… Yuke the Puke struck out swingin’
“Nice bomb from Tex. Holy cow! Is a 6 run lead enough for bruney?”
It better be.
Then there is A Rod….rally killer….Great game Joba…Tex and Melky nice hits…
Bring in Veras LOL
Glad to see the baby bombers growing up.
Career high in HR’s for Melky, yeah!
Boston losing 8-4, good times!
If it weren’t for Wang, this team would have a chance in the playoffs.
EVAN
You got the idea. I think the Yankees need to start skipping him especially so we could have our 1, 2, 3 for that series.
I make it a point to do something when A Rod bats…like eat, go potty, drink….same old story, the guy is scary bad batting 4th…good clutch win though…have a good night all
EY, that’s what Pete said today.
He also said a few dasys ago he would offer Joba, Jesus, and Ajax.
It just boggles the mind. A 23 year old stud who has the second best ERA on your starting staff and is years from arbitration, your best power hitting prospect in ages, and a centerfielder who projects to be a solid major leaguer and just MIGHT be better. For one and a half years of a great 32 year old pitcher who will be a free agent at 34.
You just can’t make that trade.
Tonight the yankees took the Rays out back and simply whoopped them.
Tex going deep to dead center after getting intentionally beamed just throws down the last smack to the Rays jaw.
Coming into this series all the yankees truly had to do was to avoid a sweep. That’s it.
Even if the rays took 2 of 3 that would be just staying afloat for them.
But the rays had to take at least two of three. This series was much more important for them.
If the yankees close this out, taking 2 of 3 – and doing it with two dominant wins not only forces the rays further back but sends a clear message to the rays and all of baseball.
I’m so glad that Russ Salzberg has nothing to do with YES.
My9 post-game shows suck. Big time.
Pepitone
July 29th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
GB7 -
Stottlemyer was paired against Bob Gibson three times during the 64 series! He won game two against him, and barely lost game 5. He got shelled in game 7, but the kid really held his own against one of the greatest to play the game.
In my opinion Al Downing did more to lose that series than Mel Stottlemyre.
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from memory, Mel pitched game 7 on 2 days rest-the HR hit by Ken Boyer off Downing really, really hurt but Gibby really won that series for the Cards.
GB, I remember Gil Patterson, he had ( with great respect ) Sandy Koufax stuff…..He was going to be the # 2 punch behind Guidry, only could have been better than Ronnie…….Mr. Stienbrenner must be quite pleased as he watches his boys knocking around the local Rays….
Bruney trying to get the game to Rivera…
“the stranger
July 29th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
“I actually don’t mind Papelbon and Beckett”
GTFO!”
hey. sometimes you eat the bear and, well, sometimes he eats you.
Chamberlain, Nova, and Nunez will be traded for Roy Halladay, before the trade deadline friday.
I hope Halladay remains in Toronto. Just a guess.
melancon pitches 2+ yesterday.
“The Melkman has been a pleasure to watch play all season. What a great turnaround, what a great story. LECHE!”
It certainly is x 3. Much to the disbelief and disapproval of the blogger and numerous posters here.
Pepitone
July 29th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
GB7 -
Stottlemyer was paired against Bob Gibson three times during the 64 series! He won game two against him, and barely lost game 5. He got shelled in game 7, but the kid really held his own against one of the greatest to play the game.
In my opinion Al Downing did more to lose that series than Mel Stottlemyer.
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What really hurt them was the bullpen and Pete Mikellson. If the had been able to get Pedro Ramos on the post season roster instead of Mike Hegan, they would most likely have won. They got Ramos on the 5th of September.
I said before the series started that the Rays wouldn’t catch the Yankees.
Stick a fork in them, they’re done!
Man I miss Joba right now
take bruney out immediately
Bruney doing his best to give the Rays a jump start for a rally.
Bruney you have a 6 run lead. Attack the zone.
not that I care about the shut out but Bruney is on the cusp of losing his roster spot.
“This team is scary good.”
If you mean the Yanks, then LOLLLL.
Joba will be shut down. Two good starting pitchers and a thin bullpen. Scary good? Really??????????????
Brian Bruney should go back to the pizza and beers.
That was the GOOD Bruney.
“This will be devastating news in Taiwan.”
Take note China, they’re vulnerable!
I take what I said back. 6 runs is NOT a Bruney-safe lead.
CB,
entering this series, Tampa was tied for the fewest home losses in all of MLB.
they depend on their home wins… and the Yanks swept the rug from under them.
Wow…I can’t wait for Crawford to hit the market.
Dunno why John & Suzyn were saying words to the effect that the 9th inning (with the big lead and all) was tailor made for Bruney.
And there goes the shutout….
Maybe 6 ISN’T enough.
I know Joe loves Bruney, but COME ON!
Only reason not to skip Joba is because he is on the best role of his career.
Meanwhile Mariano is stretching. Bruney is a disaster. At least we see he cannot be trusted in big games.
Really??????
>Bruney trying to get the game to Rivera…
Just as I read that, YES showed Mariano stretching.
Bruney. Just go have surgery.
Ghost, he worked out a hitch in his delivery during the ASB and it’s possible that Harlan kicked his butt all over town and made him promise to just take the sign and throw the pitch without thinking too much.
Amen. As much as SJ got on Joba during the Angels series, the one good thing I do remember him saying was Harlan should kick his butt. I remember joking and telling SJ to call Harlan. Maybe he did.
“Batting practice off Wheeler.
The Rays need a REAL closer.”
They have a real closer. His name is J. P. Howell and he is tremendous.
Evan, I predicted the same thing, skip Joba’s start.
Too bad Fatcesca is off tomorrow, I would love to hear his take on Joba.
Why is bruney back to overthrowing? He makes the game so much more difficult than it needs to be. Just absurd.
oh boy
Bruney sucks, trade him.
Wow. Bruney stinks.
Brian PEWney
Brian Bruney, you ARE the weakest link.
tex showing some leadership there…
BRUNEY SUCKS!
Nice going, Bruney. And Girardi for not letting Joba finish the game!
Lord God Almighty, Bruney is awful.
Time to take him out behind the shed and put two or three rounds in him.
Bruney making it a ballgame.
This guy can’t be used in high-leverage situations.
He just can’t be.
Take him out as soon as Mo is ready
Bruney………………….nice!
“Jeff NJ – Yankee Fan in Good Times and Bad
July 29th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Evan, I predicted the same thing, skip Joba’s start.
Too bad Fatcesca is off tomorrow, I would love to hear his take on Joba.”
GOD i couldnt agree more
Bruney is terrible. I wouldn’t put that guy in with a 12-run lead. Not one strike thrown and a HR… God Awful!!!!
Brian Bruney showing why Hughes isn’t leaving the bullpen this year.
Another garbage performance and they are staying too long with him in this game.
I never criticize manager’s move during a game but if Hughes was warmed up he should have pitched the 9th, now there is a good chance Mo is coming in if one more guy gets on.
Again, you have to bring Phil out………
MG, you’re right – I did have major concerns. Joba doesn’t have to pitch like this all the time, but pitching well/solidly helps this team immensely. I missed Andy’s recent start as I was away, but per the blog, it seems he pitched well. That’s encouraging.
Pat M, Phil was so highly thought of out of HS – I couldn’t believe that the scouts gave up on him so soon. He’s going to struggle upon his return to the rotation next year because that’s what kids do and he still has to work on his change, but I hope folks (fans and experts alike) will be patient. His control is out of this world – the velocity is nice, but I’m more wowed by his ability to paint the corners.
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Nice job Bruney. One more run and you can become the bridge to Mo.
Bruney can’t keep his focus and just pitch in a non-close game. He’s overthrowing, as usual.
If the Yankees have to use Mo in this game, that’s a terrible job by Bruney and the second time that has happened in the last week.
Obviously we all want Bruney to be, well, like Hughes.
But the reality is he stinks and has never been good. At this point he is like Kyle Farnsworth. It’s better for the Yanks if he sucks it up in meaningless innings so Girardi doesn’t even consider using him in a big spot.
Bruney must go.
This shows how incredible Joba was tonight, making these guys look silly the whole night. Then you bring in a now pedestrian pitcher like Bruney, and look at what they do.
Also, why is Michael Kay playing stupid? It’s pretty obvious that Bruney is going to eventually work this into a save situation so you might as well save everyone the aggravation and bring him in before that.
Girardi looks pissed. Why don’t they send out Hughes instead of Mo?
Cant trust Bruney
CB-
Gil Patterson was a young pitcher most thought was going to be great, same with a kid by the name of Mike Kekich who they got in a trade with the Dodgers. He was said to have Sandy Koufax type stuff, but could never harness it. Plus, he got into a little trouble switching wives with Fritz Peterson in 73.
Kekich also went to the same High School as me.
Watch the Master & learn!!
it was said here by many when he came back from injury he was rusty, well that’s not the case anymore
Bruney doesn’t seem to understand that he’s not a setup man anymore. Everytime he goes out there, he makes sure the ball is given to Rivera. Bruney, you fail!
Again, you have to bring Phil out………
MG, you’re right – I did have major concerns. Joba doesn’t have to pitch like this all the time, but pitching well/solidly helps this team immensely. I missed Andy’s recent start as I was away, but per the blog, it seems he pitched well. That’s encouraging.
Pat M, Phil was so highly thought of out of HS – I couldn’t believe that the scouts gave up on him so soon. He’s going to struggle upon his return to the rotation next year because that’s what kids do and he still has to work on his change, but I hope folks (fans and experts alike) will be patient. His control is out of this world – the velocity is nice, but I’m more wowed by his ability to paint the corners.
Bruney – disgraceful. I’ve had enough of him……..TERRIBLE job by Joe wasting Phil……the kid’s arm has to be protected
What’s with this UMP?!
Bruney you putz
This is your fault Bruney
I’ll be the first one to call it.
Sox with a walk off win.
“Girardi looks pissed. Why don’t they send out Hughes instead of Mo?”
B/c Yussse could pitch SU/CL tomorrow.
Yankees need to ponder tonight & see if they can land a Mark Lowe. Bruney is literally this close from being DFA’d.
DFA bruney!
Watch carefully, Bruney. More pitching and less talking. At least K-rod can mop up games. You can’t.
bruney = farnsworth…
Wonder if Bruney is still talking about K-Rod?
Apparently this blog exploded when Bruney failed.
Taking forever to refresh.
well can we trade bruney for something? A used jock strap, some pine tar… bubblegum. Gaawd is he bad. He maybe needs to gain some of that weight back.
Sterling defended Girardi’s decision to bring in Bruney because the team [couldn't] care less about a complete game shutout for Joba and wanted just the win. Joba’s pitch count was good enough to finish the game. He was in control! But Bruney got lit up just like that. I’d love to hear his latest post game comments for his latest shenanigans.
Joba with a gem…
Don’t ‘cha know, Melky wuz here…
Tex too, plus one Mo…….
Ball game. Bruney you are terrible.
As a general statement, Mariano makes hitters look foolish.
As great as Mo is, he does turn 40 later this year and the fact that we had to use him in what was a 6-0 game is really disturbing.
I’m not one for hyperbole or rash decisions, but Bruney needs to be gone.
Bruney needs to be pitching in Scranton everyday. Not in the Bronx right now.
Joba. Nice game. Keep him in the untouchable list.
Betsy – Can we get a night off form your comments please?
Thanks in advance.
yanks win..
Mike-
What did Bruney say about ARod?
LoHud server pulling a Bruney?
Why the heck do we still have Bruney? We need to DFA this tool. I’m so sick of this USELESS retard, seriously, we have smart enough people working for the Yankees they should be able to figure it out. This guy is WORTHLESS. He is worse than useless.
MG, it was a HORRIBLE decision by Joe – he has no clue how to handle Phil. He’s not a regular reliever, for pete’s sake. This should have been a rocking chair game, now I’m pissed off at Joe. Bruney is now just for mop up, but even for that he can’t be trusted. Mo used precious pitches tonight that could have been saved for tomorrow or the next day. That’s Joe’s fault, too……
On a positive note, what a tremendous effort by the team all around except for one player – they stomped on the Rays and never gave them a real chance.
So have the Yanks beaten any good teams yet?
Just curious.
They have beaten the Rays 4 of 6 games at the Trop this season, which is one of the toughest home teams in the majors.
Mo is god
Jobber was studly tonight
Bruney
No Betsy
July 29th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Betsy – Can we get a night off form your comments please?
Thanks in advance.
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Don’t be rude. If you don’t like someone’s comments, just scroll past them!
Um, no NB – so just ignore me, loser
Let’s have a poll here. Who would you rather have on your roster? Kei Igawa or Brian Bruney?
At this point I’d rather have Igawa than Bruney.
Until Bruney straightens himself out he should be the last option in the pen. New pen rankings:
Mo
Hughes
Aceves
Coke
Robertson
Melancon
Bruney
In your face Francessa.
In your face Francessa.
i wonder if rdm thought longoria’s homer was purely stat padding – lol.
if joba keeps this up, there will be a dilemma down the road about innings. like miggs said, we should skip his next start.
someone tell posada hes not the manager…geez, worry bout catching and calling a pitch and not about how the defense is aligned- you are not the manager!!!!
goodnight everyone – see ya tomorrow.
Bruney is a bum, hasn’t been the same since coming back from the DL, and he has that attitude w/ the press, just rubs me the wrong way, hope Pete finds his way to his locker
“I’ll be the first one to call it.
Sox with a walk off win.”
NO TAFFY FOR YOU SUX TROLL!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
FATSO ORTIZ POPS UP TO END THE INNING!
Walk this off, Cal.
Ortiz just argued a clear strike on 1-1 with 2outs in the 8th inning.
All Ortiz does is argue. I just dont have any tolerance for idiocy. I wish baseball would ban him.
Kudos to CB, Tarheelyank, and a handful of others who refused to jump off the Joba bandwagon when he was struggling a few weeks back.
Shame on the rest of you who wanted to throw him to the lions.
This kis is as raw as it gets for a starting pitcher and he’s doing things that 23 yr old kids just don’t do very often.
If Seattle is serious about selling, try to get Mark Lowe or Brandon Morrow from them.
P.S. Mark Teixeira has to be the best defensive 1B I’ve ever watched, and I saw Donnie, Olerud, Tino. I even asked my dad on the phone, he said Teix has to be the best defensive 1B in the game today.
In effect the Yankees need 2 relievers. One to replace Marte who won’t be back soon and Bruney to get his head together.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member whose new BFF is Rajai Davis
July 29th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
“I’ll be the first one to call it.
Sox with a walk off win.”
NO TAFFY FOR YOU SUX TROLL!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
FATSO ORTIZ POPS UP TO END THE INNING!
Walk this off, Cal.
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bwahahaha Did you hear Eck say Papi has been clutch throughout his career. Well, not this year Eck. and throughout his career, does that mean while he was injecting with the sox.
Can’t really fault Bruney for his failures.
The guy grew up in a monoculture.
Pel
July 29th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Apparently this blog exploded when Bruney failed.
Taking forever to refresh.
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LOL! Exactly, I can always tell when something happened that has pissed everybody off by the spinning ball on the refresh button.
Joba wins, Yanks win Sox losing great night
I have supported Bruney in the past, but he’s got an attitude problem that emerges when he’s upset that isn’t pleasant. Did anyone of you see his expression before he just threw that pitch down the pike to Longoria? His face appeared to read: “Whatever, I suck. Hit this.”
No, I can’t read minds, but it caught me by surprise when I saw his expression before that nonchalant pitch to Longoria — as if he’d already given up on that outing entirely.
I do think he might be better getting regular work in tight games down in AAA, but does he have any options left at all? I’d be surprised if he did.
Francesa’s going to have to down a bunch of Diet Cokes tomorrow to get through the bevy of “Told you so about Joba!” phone calls.
Send Bruney on a bus ticket to Scranton right now. Don’t wait for Friday.
Brandon, Phil was already warmed up – he’s not a reliever, despite being in the pen. He hasn’t been trained that way. Joe specifically said earlier this season he was not going to warm Phil up and then not bring him in.
bruney needs to start getting ahead of these hitters, he got the big out vs oakland, tonight was disappointing, he isnt going anywhere i wouldnt think except further down on the list in our bullpen, but it’d be great if he can get it worked out and pitch the way he did before the injury so he could be an asset in september and hopefully later
terrific to take 2 out of 3 here
Betsy,
Not even Phil’s mother worries about Phil as much as you do.
Why burn Phil Hughes in a 6 run game? This is why you have other guys in the pen.
Hughes is being used just fine. Look at the results.
They have to see if they can get Bruney right.
Now that they have their answer, they will probably have another bullpen arm here by 8/1.
So have the Yanks beaten any good teams yet?
Just curious.
They have beaten the Rays 4 of 6 games at the Trop this season, which is one of the toughest home teams in the majors.
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Giuseppe -
By the standards of ESPN, No!!!
We have bought the victories against the Rays!
Just for kicks. Check out “thin” David Ortiz.
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/31.....-small.jpg
George got to see his team win.
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Something does not compute. Bruney was lights out. Then he got hurt. Now he’s terrible. Sound familiar.
Randy any ideas?
-Big Sloppi popped up. He was the tying run.
Whoops!
-Can’t wait to hear the postgame spin on how Bruney had “good stuff”…
Why burn Phil Hughes in a 6 run game? This is why you have other guys in the pen.
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I would pitch Hughes as often as is possible instead of waiting for ’situations’ to get him innings.
Eh, all you guys were singing Bruney’s praises early in the season.
Too many fans on this site want to get rid of any player who struggles, it was Cano last year, now it’s Bruney.
Show some patience Yankee fans!
Betsy,
I hope you don’t mind, but I honestly smile when I read your fervent Phil postings. I swear you have a huge crush on that guy.
I don’t think Bruney will be DFA’d, but he’s doing the limbo as far as pen priority goes. He’s going lower, lower, lower – maybe around Robertson level.
Tex is not as good a 1B as Donnie, not IMO, but he’s just superb and he really should have the Gold Glove locked up now; I love watching him play D – same as I felt with Donnie and Tino (though Tex is better than Tino)
I’d rather have Hughes available for the White Sox series than worrying about his innings.
Yeah…Bruney did look like he really just didn’t care, especially when Girardi yanked him out and brought Mo in…the camera shots in the dugout showed him just looking like “oh well screw it. i suck and I don’t care.” But he must care…STRAIGHTEN YOURSELF OUT!!!!
I’d rather have Hughes available for the White Sox series than worrying about his innings.
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I don’t consider the white sox a threat needing hughes totally fresh for. If i warmed up Hughes, I’d probably put him in the game. I dont like warming him up then sitting him down
Michael Kay never had mayonnaise? Get out of the cave. -__-
Wang, this has nothing to do with how I feel personally about Phil (and no, I crush on AJ, not Phil – though I love Phil, lol). I hone